City Council Meeting and Economic Development Authority Meeting - September 10, 2024
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**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Up all righty we are going to go ahead and call to order the regular meeting of the Oakdale city council September 10th 2024. Sarah, will you take the role?
**[Timestamp] Sarah (City Clerk):** Council member Her?
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member):** Here.
**[Timestamp] Sarah (City Clerk):** Council member Inabrittson?
**[Timestamp] Kari Moore (Council Member):** Here.
**[Timestamp] Sarah (City Clerk):** Council member Morcomb?
**[Timestamp] Andy Morcomb (Council Member):** Here.
**[Timestamp] Sarah (City Clerk):** Council member Willenbring?
**[Timestamp] Katie Wrich (Council Member):** Here.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Mayor Zabel here. Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. [All: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.]
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Okay, first up in front of us is the approval of the agenda. Council members, we have a slightly amended version in front of us. Can I get a motion to approve as amended?
**[Timestamp] Andy Morcomb (Council Member):** So moved.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** There's a motion. Is there a second?
**[Timestamp] Kari Moore (Council Member):** Second.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Motion and a second. Final comments? All those in favor say aye. [All: Aye.] Opposed? And the agenda is adopted. Next up we have approval of the minutes. Two sets in front of us tonight. First up, Workshop meeting minutes from August 27th, 2024. Council members, any changes or corrections? I'll look for a motion.
**[Timestamp] Andy Morcomb (Council Member):** So moved.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** There's a motion. Is there a second?
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member):** Second.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Motion and a second. Final comments? All those in favor say aye. [All: Aye.] Opposed? And the workshop meeting minutes are approved. Next up we have regular meeting minutes from August 27th, 2024. Any changes or corrections? I'll look for a motion.
**[Timestamp] Katie Wrich (Council Member):** So moved.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** There's a motion. Is there a second?
**[Timestamp] Kari Moore (Council Member):** Second.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Motion and a second. Final comments? All those in favor say aye. [All: Aye.] Opposed? And regular meeting minutes from August 27, 2024, are approved. Next up, public hearings—none tonight. So we'll move into the open forum. We have a couple proclamations and some recognition to do. I'm going to start with the proclamations. First up, recognizing Patriot Day:
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Whereas on September 11th, 2001, Al-Qaeda terrorist hijackers carried out a coordinated attack on the United States and nearly 3,000 innocent American lives were lost. And whereas the courage, heroism, and resilience of Americans displayed on 9/11 and in its aftermath are a perpetual testament to the spirit of our country. And whereas every year on September 11th, Americans commemorate Patriot Day as a day of remembrance of the 9/11 attacks and stand in solidarity to remember the victims and mourn their stolen hopes and dreams. And whereas September 11th, 2024 marks the 23rd anniversary of this tragedy. Therefore I, Kevin Zabel, Mayor of Oakdale, Minnesota, do hereby proclaim September 11th, 2024, as Patriot Day.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** We also have a proclamation recognizing Constitution Week and Day. Whereas September—let me try again—whereas September 17th, 2024 marks the 237th anniversary of the drafting of the Constitution of the United States of America by the Constitutional Convention. And whereas it is fitting and proper to accord official recognition to this magnificent document and its memorable anniversary. And whereas Public Law 9115 authorizes the President of the United States to designate September 17th through the 23rd as Constitution Week each year. I, Kevin Zabel, Mayor of Oakdale, Minnesota, do hereby proclaim September 17th through the 23rd as Constitution Week and September 17th as Constitution Day in the City of Oakdale.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Finally, we have recognition and appreciation for council member Noah Her. I'm actually going down there so I can look at Noah. Watch him get all misty.
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member):** I don't cry, I promise.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** All righty. Noah Her joined the city council in March 2023 and during his tenure he has been a consistent voice for residents and businesses alike, advocating for fiscal transparency, high-quality city services, and positioning Oakdale for a growing and changing world. Council member Her also has the honor of being the first Hmong American member of the Oakdale City Council, bringing voice to a growing population in Oakdale and the East Metro. As part of the city council, Noah has brought his business acumen and experience to policy discussions, advocating for additional outreach to Oakdale's business community in a changed post-COVID world. Programs like the business retention expansion and attraction program have been invaluable as Oakdale has developed deeper ties to our businesses, and Noah has not only been a passionate supporter of this project but also has been an active participant as well.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** On behalf of our residents, Noah has been a steadfast voice for fiscal restraint and transparency while also striking an important balance in meeting the needs and expectations of our residents. As Oakdale has grown and faced generational infrastructure improvements, Noah has consistently encouraged staff and his city council colleagues to view financial decisions through the impact on taxpayers. Council member Her has also been a valued information sharer, encouraging all of us to remember that our community is different than it was five, ten, or twenty years ago, and things like park amenities and civic events should evolve as our city becomes more diverse.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Before I wrap up, I want to offer a deep thank you to Noah's family. While one person sits in the chair, attends meetings, and casts the vote, they aren't doing it alone. There is always a group of support behind them. Every minute spent here at City Hall or at a city event is a minute Noah hasn't been spending with his family. We so deeply appreciate your family sharing you with us as you do this very important work. Noah, you will be missed around here. Your passion and insight have made Oakdale a better community to call home and to do business in, and you should be incredibly proud of that. We all are. On behalf of the residents and businesses in Oakdale, as well as our city staff and city council, thank you for your service to our community. We have a small token of appreciation for you for your time with us—and if you're not done yet, you have one more meeting! Come on up.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Count of three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One more. One, two, three. Thank you. Take it from there. Noah, the floor is yours.
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member):** Mr. Mayor, fellow council members, and City Administrator Chris Volkers. I regret to share the news that, you know, I will be leaving sooner than what I had intended to at the start of my journey here, and looking to try my hand at something new. At the onset of being diagnosed with cancer, I had wanted to set a path forth for my kids to say that if Dad could do it, you guys can certainly do it; to have the sense of duty and a sense of service. And in that regards, I'm a little embarrassed to have to step down sooner than what I had intended. Sometimes as life happens and different opportunities come up, that is where I am. Sad and a bit embarrassed for not seeing this through to the end.
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member):** But with that said, you know, I want to encourage you guys all to carry forward this work, to continue to keep the residents in mind, to continue to remember that we are all Americans, we are all Minnesotans, we are all Midwesterners, we are all Oakdaleans. No matter our belief systems, no matter what our creed, no matter what we may look like, that at the end of the day, our pursuit of love and a happy, joyful life is really what all residents want at the end of the day. It has been my pleasure to work alongside you guys.
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member):** It has been my pleasure to lead and work with you, Chris. You said something upstairs while we were having the conversation and workshop about the level of transparency that the department heads want to go to, keeping the city council informed on decisions that are really intended to be at the department head level, but you want to keep us informed. And I really mean what I said to Kyle earlier, which is: hey, at the end of the day, when you hire the right people, when you guys do the right work as a council, I felt like my job was really just to check and balance, but really get out of your way and let the city staff do your work. You know, we have a bunch of talented department heads. I think you guys are going to do the city well, like you have in the past and like you will in the future. And I'm excited to have been part of this brief history during this time.
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member):** So thank you each and every one of you who are in this room, and for those of you who aren't in this room, thank you guys so much for the work that you do for the city, the work that you've helped me in staying informed and supporting the work and the development here in the City of Oakdale. Oakdale, I hold a special place in my heart. This time will always be something special and something that I will carry with me to the future. Kevin, I don't know what my future holds for me, but let me tell you that the example that you've set for me—I just want to tell you that you set that bar really high on what an elected official, how they should carry themselves, how engaged they should be. I've always said to myself and said to my wife that if I were to model anyone, I think the example that you've set forth is the gold standard and something that I would always strive to achieve. So thank you for being a leader in that sense. And thank you guys all for your time and your trust and letting me have this opportunity. So thank you.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Thank you, Noah. [Applause] Getting misty. We are still under open forum. If there's anyone in the audience that would like to make any comments, we're just going to keep rolling. If anybody would like to step up to the podium, share anything that's on their mind, please feel free to do so. Please state your name and address for the record and proceed with your comments. All right, we're going to keep things rolling. Move into consensus motions. We don't want to have a meeting on Christmas Eve—weird, huh? So we have consensus motions A through G. Are there any that council members would like to pull for individual consideration? Seeing none, I'll look for a motion.
**[Timestamp] Andy Morcomb (Council Member):** Make a motion to approve consensus motions A through G as presented.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** There's a motion. Is there a second?
**[Timestamp] Katie Wrich (Council Member):** Second.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. [All: Aye.] Opposed? Consensus motions are approved. Next up, opportunity to check in with our advisory boards and commissions. None; we had a couple cancellations in there, nobody else met, so we'll keep things rolling. Move into Award of Bids—oh, never mind, sorry—nothing under Award of Bids. So we'll go to Staff Reports. Finance, drum roll please. Finance Director Costas, welcome.
**[Timestamp] Kyle Costas (Finance Director):** Thank you, Mayor, Council. All right, for this evening, the request for Council action: the city is required to adopt a proposed levy for 2025 and certify it to Washington County by September 30th. In setting this proposed levy, Council should consider it can only be decreased, not increased, prior to adoption of the final levy in December. Upon certification to Washington County, the proposed levy will be used to prepare proposed tax notices or the "truth in taxation" notices. This notice is required to be mailed to property owners between November 11th and November 24th. This includes parcel-specific estimated taxes payable in the following year for each jurisdiction for the parcel. Following adoption of this proposed levy, the current calendar calls for Oakdale to consider the final levy in December at the December 10th council meeting.
**[Timestamp] Kyle Costas (Finance Director):** In order to prepare the city council for considering what level to set the proposed 2025 property tax levy, eight public work sessions were held with Council discussing the various aspects of the 2025 levy, first one beginning in March and then all the way through August. The proposed 2025 property tax levy for the City of Oakdale is currently $19,699,000, which is up 6.11% or $1.1 million over 2024. At the proposed levy amount, the median residential property in Oakdale, which is valued at about $337,000 for the 2024 assessment report, would see their city share of their property tax bill increase approximately $44 or 3.42% for 2025.
**[Timestamp] Kyle Costas (Finance Director):** Assumptions and factors impacting the 2025 levy and related budget include: removal of one-time expenditures and revenues; four new regular full-time employees including one licensed Sergeant in the Police Department, one maintenance worker in Public Works, one Fire Marshal, and one full-time increase total for Finance Clerk and Human Resource Generalist. There's a focus on training development and staffing of city-operated Public Safety, internal pre-funding of vehicle and equipment replacements, it promotes strategic development and redevelopment, there is funding for the new Willowbrook Commons park, and proposed grade step and cost of living adjustments are included in accordance with the city's class and comp schedule.
**[Timestamp] Kyle Costas (Finance Director):** Staff believes the proposed levy accomplishes a number of important objectives including focusing on city services and funding these activities adequately, maintaining appropriate fund balance to mitigate risk, proactively funding equipment repair and replacement. The debt levy included in this 2025 proposed levy is the second lowest since 2018. It fosters community engagement and resources to address criminal activity, ensuring the best Fire Safety services through a full-time career-modeled fire department, maintenance of city properties including the new Public Works facility, ensuring compensation to recruit and retain existing staff, and transparency in all aspects of city governance and operations. And last, I'd like to thank City Council for direction along with City Administrator, and thank all the department heads and their staff for the assistance in this massive project, and also the finance staff. And with that, City Council action requested is adopting the proposed 2025 property tax levy and establishing the date for the truth in taxation meeting. I'll stand for any questions.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Council members, should we blow up the budget proposal and start over? Never? Nope? Nope, nobody wants to. Okay, how about questions for Kyle then? I'm sorry, Chris missed the comment. She'll watch our recording. We're going to blow up the budget and start over. Yeah, he made a joke, made funny, we're all laughing. Yeah, that's all that matters. Council members, questions for Kyle? Well, let's go ahead and get the motion, I'll make a comment at the end. Can I get a motion?
**[Timestamp] Kari Moore (Council Member):** I'll make a motion to wave reading and adopt resolution 2024-71 adopting the proposed 2025 property tax levy and establishing the date for the truth in taxation meeting.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** There's a motion. Is there a second?
**[Timestamp] Andy Morcomb (Council Member):** Second.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Motion and second. Final comments? I'll make one. I just want to reiterate something our Finance Director Kyle said. This action is another step in our budget process. You know, as he mentioned, we started back in March—gosh, was it March already? Okay. This is a step that is required by state law. State law says we have to set our preliminary tax levy between now and December. We can only go down, we can only decrease the tax levy if we need to; we cannot go above it. This is the ceiling. This is a step we take every single year, and while it is a benchmark, it is a very important benchmark. It is a good opportunity to recognize all of the hard work that has been put in thus far.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** So on behalf of the city council, I want to compliment our staff. This is not an easy process; it takes eight months. Unfortunately, it seems like the second we end, we're beginning again. That's just how it works. But this proposal reflects very real needs in our community. As Kyle said, we're adding positions in our fire department, in our police department, in admin. We are growing as a city and this reflects those needs. Also, you know, we don't take tax or levy increases lightly because we know families are struggling with the growing costs that they're experiencing everywhere from the grocery store to the fuel pump and beyond. And so we work very hard as a body with our staff and listening to our residents to find that delicate balance in the middle.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** You know, as some cities—as a lot of cities around us and around the Metro—were looking at double-digit increases in their tax levy, we worked very hard to rely on the financial investments and strategy we've laid out for the last few years to avoid that as much as possible. Big changes in things like not putting equipment on the credit card—something that we haven't done for a few years now—getting our debt service, you know, decreasing the amount of interest we pay on debt every single year for the last four years. All of that helps us weather financial storms like this. And so while 6.11% is never ideal, and we don't take that very lightly, it is necessary to provide very important things to keep city operations going, like pay increases to our employees and keeping the dedicated men and women that keep this city running every single day here in Oakdale.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** So, you know, the process will continue between now and—what's the date in December? The 10th? December 10th. But we encourage all of our residents: if you have questions, reach out to any of the council members up here. We are happy to discuss it. Reach out to our Finance Director, reach out to our City Administrator. You know, a few years ago we put all of our financial documents and our proposed budget online. You can see in real-time what's being spent and how we're proposing to spend it in 2025. We encourage people to ask questions and reach out to anybody to get the answers you all deserve. Because as we've said many, many times, there is absolutely nothing to hide in the city budget, and every dollar in this city budget goes towards making this community a great place to live and work and play. So reach out if you have questions or come join us on December 10th; that is the option as well. Motion, second. All those in favor say aye. [All: Aye.] Opposed? And the preliminary property tax levy is adopted and TNT meeting established. City Attorney Mr. Thompson, anything for us?
**[Timestamp] Jim Thompson (City Attorney):** Mayor and Council, nothing specific to report.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Anybody have questions for Jim? Going once, going twice. All right, let's look the other way. Check in with Chris. Chris?
**[Timestamp] Christina Volkers (City Administrator):** Mayor, city council, I think the budget was enough for tonight. It's enough for the rest of the year.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** All righty. Any questions for Chris? Alrighty. Council presentations—anybody have any? Noah?
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member):** Mr. Mayor, if you don't mind. I do want to just kind of speak towards a situation that happened to some residents in our city a couple weeks ago. Within the Hmong community, there was a murder-suicide that happened down in Dakota County and it was by Oakdale residents, a couple. Very unfortunate series of events. What I want to take this time out for really is just to make a statement condemning domestic violence, condemning within the Hmong community this idea that they have no way out, that they have to take such defining, such tragic actions towards their spouse. There's always alternatives and other ways out. Seek counseling, seek help. That is not representative of our community as a whole.
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member):** The unfortunate truth, though, is that it's happened one too many times within our community where it's beginning to be more of a pandemic, where there's numerous Hmong men who feel that this is the path that they want to continue to take. And so as someone who is a representative of that community, I want to stand with our Hmong women and say that, you know, that is not accepted, that should not be accepted, that we can do better and we should do better. So I just wanted to take a moment and just pray for that family and the hurt and pain that they're going through right now, and hope that they can find some solace and some comfort in their remaining family members and the support system that is offered through the county. So thank you.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Susie [Council Member Willenbring], do you have anything? Gentlemen, anything?
**[Timestamp] Andy Morcomb (Council Member):** I want just to say thanks again, Noah, for your service. We understand how big of a commitment it is, so appreciate everything you've done.
**[Timestamp] Kari Moore (Council Member):** Thank you, Noah.
**[Timestamp] Katie Wrich (Council Member):** Yes, thank you, Noah. It was really a pleasure getting to know you.
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member):** Same here.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Well, it's not over; he has to work one more meeting! Yeah, don't let him off the hook yet like it's over. I have a few updates that City staff would like me to cover. First up, earlier tonight Oakdale's annual Touch-a-Truck event was going on out here in the city hall parking lot. Weather was perfect; we thought it was going to be a little warm but that sun went behind the clouds and it was a beautiful evening out there. So thank you to all of the families that came and explored our public safety vehicles, snow plows, garbage trucks, street cleaners and more. Always a good time when you can come out and interact with City staff, our crews, see the big equipment, turn on all the lights and the horns—it's a fun time. So thank you to everybody that joined us.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** But the fun does not end. We have two more big events coming up. This Saturday we have our Family Fun Inflatables event. It will be 11:00 AM to 4:00 PM out here at Walton Park. It is a completely free event that features inflatables for the whole family to explore including a bouncy castle, obstacle course, and giant slide. We will also have a kids' DJ out there so there'll be some dancing going on at the bandshell, and concessions will be available for purchase. So cross your fingers for some good weather; come on out, join us Saturday at Walton Park 11:00 AM to 4:00 PM for Family Fun Inflatables.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Next Saturday we have our—I'm so excited about this one—Citywide Cleanup event. First time in almost 15 years that Oakdale has hosted a community cleanup event like this. So it is Saturday, September 21st, from 9:00 AM to 1:00 PM at Oakdale Public Works. This is a great opportunity for Oakdale residents to get rid of all of those unwanted items that are building up in your home. There are small fees for most of the items being collected; you can check out the city website, oakdalemn.gov, for more information on those items that we are accepting as well as any fees that may apply. But we hope you can join us and get rid of all that junk, so we will gladly take it off your hands and make sure it is properly disposed of.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Got to go back up. Portions of the trail in the Oakdale Nature Preserve that were closed for reconstruction have now reopened for regular use. The trails were reconstructed as part of the city's annual stream improvement program. We really appreciate everybody's patience as that closed down almost all of the Nature Preserve for a pretty big chunk of it, but the work was desperately needed. Also, we smoothed out some of those big peaks and valleys. So you know, hopefully now you don't have that winter situation of trying to climb an icy hill and sliding back down like I do. So please go visit the Nature Preserve, check out those trails; crews did a really nice job. Also just cleaning up some of the vegetation that was encroaching on the trails and leaning and posing a safety hazard. So got a lot of cleanup done, which is great.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Finally, the city is seeking community feedback about two different park concepts for Tanner Lake Park. You may recall we've been in this park systems update process for a while now. A big thank you to all of the residents that provided feedback on the other 27 parks. Given the special nature of Tanner Lake Park and recognizing that we have a lot of work to do, we wanted to carve that one out specifically. We've created two concept plans with different ideas and we're asking residents to weigh in on that. To do so, you can visit our website, oakdalemn.gov, provide feedback on specific amenities at that park or the park as a whole or whatever you want to talk about. Any comments provided are greatly appreciated; it will play a cornerstone role in the future of that park. So please have your voices heard by September 30th; we'll be collecting comments this entire month.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Let's pay some bills. We have a claims roster in front of us, period August 28th through September 10th, in the amount of 2.7 million and change. Council members, do we want to pull any of those claims for more information? All right, I'll look for a motion.
**[Timestamp] Andy Morcomb (Council Member):** Make a motion to approve claims as presented.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** There's a motion. Is there a second?
**[Timestamp] Katie Wrich (Council Member):** Second.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Motion and a second. Any comments? All those in favor say aye. [All: Aye.] Opposed? And claims are approved as presented. Susie [Council Member Willenbring], do me a favor, pass that down to Noah. He's going to bring us home tonight.
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member):** Gladly. Oh, caught me off guard there. Call for a motion to adjourn the meeting?
**[Timestamp] Andy Morcomb (Council Member):** So moved.
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member):** Is there a second?
**[Timestamp] Kari Moore (Council Member):** Second.
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member):** All right, all in favor? [All: Aye.] All right, and the city council meeting is closed.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor):** Thank you, Noah. Okay, we're going to go right into the meeting of the Oakdale Economic Development Authority. I'm going to go ahead and call to order the regular meeting of the Oakdale Economic Development Authority September 10th, 2024. Sarah, will you take the role?
**[Timestamp] Sarah (City Clerk):** Commissioner Her?
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member/Commissioner):** Here.
**[Timestamp] Sarah (City Clerk):** Commissioner Inabrittson?
**[Timestamp] Kari Moore (Council Member/Commissioner):** Here.
**[Timestamp] Sarah (City Clerk):** Commissioner Morcomb?
**[Timestamp] Andy Morcomb (Council Member/Commissioner):** Here.
**[Timestamp] Sarah (City Clerk):** Commissioner Willenbring?
**[Timestamp] Katie Wrich (Council Member/Commissioner):** Here.
**[Timestamp] Sarah (City Clerk):** President Zabel?
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor/President):** Here. First up we have approval of the agenda. Can I get a motion to approve?
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member/Commissioner):** So moved.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor/President):** There's a motion. Is there a second?
**[Timestamp] Kari Moore (Council Member/Commissioner):** Second.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor/President):** Motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. [All: Aye.] Opposed? Did we miss something? Agenda is adopted—guess we did, I guess so. Next up we have approval of the minutes. We have meeting minutes of the EDA March 12, 2024 in front of us. Any changes or corrections? I'll look for a motion.
**[Timestamp] Andy Morcomb (Council Member/Commissioner):** So moved.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor/President):** There's a motion. Is there a second?
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member/Commissioner):** Second.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor/President):** Motion and a second. Any comments? All those in favor say aye. [All: Aye.] And the minutes are approved as presented. The next agenda item is to discuss offers and counter-offers for the purchase or sale of real property PIN ID 312921330010 and PIN ID 3102921320180. I will turn it over at this time to the City Attorney for brief comment. Jim, do you have anything?
**[Timestamp] Jim Thompson (City Attorney):** Mr. Chair, no, no comments other than you should—that you should turn that into a motion. Someone should make a motion to go.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor/President):** Jim, I have a script. Oh, I didn't write it! You think I just rattle those numbers off? Okay, at this time I will look for a motion to close the meeting of the Oakdale Economic Development Authority pursuant to Minnesota statute section 13D.05 subdivision 3(c)(3) to discuss offers and counter-offers for the purchase or sale of real property at the aforementioned PIN IDs.
**[Timestamp] Noah Her (Council Member/Commissioner):** So moved.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor/President):** There's a motion. Is there a second?
**[Timestamp] Andy Morcomb (Council Member/Commissioner):** Second.
**[Timestamp] Kevin Zabel (Mayor/President):** All those in favor say aye. [All: Aye.] Opposed? The EDA meeting is now closed. We will take this upstairs to the Hadley room.