November 14, 2024 Minneapolis City Council

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Based on the context provided and the dialogue within the transcript, here is the formatted version with speaker names identified. [0:25] **Council President Payne**: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ELLIOTT PAYNE. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF MIN SLIS CITY -- MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL. WE ARE PLEASED TO WELCOME GUESTS TO THE SPACE TO SHARE IN THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE TAKING UP OUR AGENDA. [0:42] **Council President Payne**: OUR HONARY RESOLUTION TODAY IS RECOGNIZING TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE. AND I WILL INVITE THAT RESOLUTION'S AUTHOR, COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS, TO GIVE THAT PRESENTATION. [2:09] **Council Member Jenkins**: GOOD MORNING. ALL RIGHT. HELLO HELLO. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ANDREW JENKINS. [2:24] **Council Member Jenkins**: I REPRESENT WARD 8. ALSO REPRESENT A BRILLIANT AND BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY THE TRANS AND GENDER NONCONFORMING COMMUNITY, AND I'M SO THRILLED TO HAVE SO MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ORGANIZATIONAL LEADERS HERE WITH ME TODAY AS WE READ THIS RESOLUTION AND OBSERVE THE NATIONAL TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE, WHICH IS A SOLEMN REMEMBRANCE, A SOLEMN RESOLUTION THAT -- [3:06] **Council President Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER? COUNCIL MEMBER? COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS? YOUR MIC IS ON, BUT COULD YOU HOLD IT CLOSER TO YOUR MOUTH PL. [3:06] **Council Member Jenkins**: ABSOLUTELY. SO JUST A LITTLE CONTEXT. THE TRANSGENDER, GENDER NONCONFORMING COMMUNITY HAS BEEN BUILDING A MOVEMENT. I WOULD SAY SINCE 1969, AND BEFORE WHEN SYLVIA RIVERA AND MARCIA P. JOHNSON -- THANK YOU, ANDY -- KICKED OFF THE STONEWALL REVOLUTION WHICH WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE GAY RIGHTS MOVEMENT. AND SINCE THEN, WE HAVE HAD TO STRUGGLE WITHIN THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY AND MORE BROADLY WITH THE GENERAL POPULATION. AND UNFORTUNATELY, NOW WE HAVE FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION THAT IS DEAD SET ON LIMITING TRANS AND GENDER NONCONFORMING PEOPLES' RIGHTS TO EXIST IN OUR SOCIETY. AND SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I WILL READ THIS RESOLUTION. OBSERVING NOVEMBER 20 AS THE TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE. WHEREAS, SADLY AND INHUMANI, AT LEAST 27 TRANSGENDER AND GENDER EXPANSIVE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BEEN KILLED IN THE UNITED STATES IN 2024, INCLUDING THROUGH GUN AND INTERPERSONAL VIOLENCE. WHEREAS, WE FACE AN EPIDEMIC OF VIOLENCE AGAINST TRANSGENDER WOMEN OF COLOR IN THE UNITED STATES WITH BLACK AND LATINX TRANSGENDER WOMEN REPRESENTING A VAST MAJORITY OF THESE FATALITIES AND EXPERIENCING VIOLENCE AT DISPROPORTIONATELY HIGHER RATES. AND WHEREAS, TOO OFTEN THESE MURDERS AND NONVIOLENT ATTACKS GO UNREPORTED AND/OR MISREPORTED. TRANSGENDER WOMEN OF COLOR FACE VIOLENCE EVERY DAY AND FEAR TURNING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT TO HELP DUE TO FURTHERING INTERACTIONS OF VIOLENCE, VICTIM BLAMING, STIGMA, AND HARMFUL CHARACTERIZATIONS. AND WHEREAS, TRANSGENDER AND GENDER NONCONFORMING PEOPLE WHOM WE'VE LOST IN THE LAST YEAR DUE TO VIOLENCE PERPETRATED AGAINST THEM WERE NEIGHBORS, STUDENT, COWORKERS, FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS WHOSE LIVES WERE TAKEN FROM THEIR LOVED ONES AND FROM THEIR COMMUNITIES. AND WHEREAS, TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE IS ALSO OBSERVED AS TRANSGENDER DAY OF RESILIENCE TO CELEBRATE THE RESILIENCE AND POWER OF TRANSAND GENDER NONCONFORMING PEOPLE STILL LIVING, FIGHTING FOR THEIR SAFETY AND PROTECTING EACH OTHER. AND WHEREAS, TRANSGENDER AND GENDER NONCONFORMING PEOPLE DESERVE THE RESOURCES AND PROTECTIONS NECESSARY TO BE CELEBRATED IN LIFE AND NOT ONLY IN DEATH. THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY OBSERVE NOVEMBER 20, 2024, AS TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE IN ACKNOWLEDGING AND MOURNING THE LIVES OF TRANSGENDER AND GENDER NONCONFORMING PEOPLE WE'VE LOST THIS YEAR DUE TO VIOLENCE AND RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS SO MUCH WORK AHEAD IN OUR DUTIES TO HELP CREATE A SAFER, MORE EQUITABLE CITY FOR OUR TRANSGENDER AND GENDER NONCONFORMING COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THANK YOU. AND I WILL JUST SAY I AM PERSONALLY ON TWO NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, THE HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN, AND ADVOCATES FOR TRANSGENDER EQUALITY, AND WE WILL BE FIGHTING EACH AND EVERY DAY TO ENSURE THAT OUR VOICES ARE HEARD, THAT OUR COMMUNITIES ARE SAFE AND THRIVING. AND PARTICULARLY FOR OUR YOUNG TRANSGENDER FOLKS WHO ARE BEING DEEPLY IMPACTED BY THE RHETORIC THAT IS BEING SPEWED BY OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE FIGHT CONTINUES. I WANT TO INVITE SOME OF MY FRIENDS AND/OR COLLEAGUES TO BE ABLE TO SHARE A FEW WORDS. ANYBODY? ROXANNE? [7:57] **Roxanne**: SURE, I WILL. [7:57] **Council Member Jenkins**: ABSOLUTELY. [8:00] **Roxanne**: HEY, EVERYONE, I'M ROX WITH OUR SPACE IN THE MINNESOTA TRANSGENDER HEALTH COALITION. I THINK IT'S ESPECIALLY HARD YEAR FOR US THIS YEAR AS WE MOURN THE DEATHS OF AT LEAST TWO OF OUR TRANSGENDER MEMBERS RIGHT HERE IN THE METRO AREA. AND SO IF YOU KNOW A TRANSGENDER PERSON OR GENDER NONCONFORMING PERSON, BE ESPECIALLY KIND TO THEM IN THE UPCOMING DAYS AND WEEKS AS WE ALL SET IN WITH THE NEW ADMINISTRATION UPCOMING, AND MOURN AND CELEBRATE HOW AMAZING TRANS PEOPLE ARE. [8:45] **Kat Rohn**: BUILDING ON WHAT ROX HAD SHARED, MY NAME IS CAT, THEY/SHE PRONOUNS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR OUTFRONT MINNESOTA OUR STATE'S LARGEST LGBTQ ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE SAVANNAH WILLIAMS AND KIARA SIE WHOM WE LOST IN THIS LAST YEAR. I KNOW HOW MUCH LIGHT AND JOY THEY BROUGHT INTO THEIR SPACES AND TO THE FOLKS THAT THEY KNEW. AND THEY ARE DEEPLY MISSED. AND I THINK ESPECIALLY NOW AS WE FACE A MORE HOSTILE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ENVIRONMENT, IT IS INCUMBENT ON PLACES LIKE MINNEAPOLIS, ON STATES LIKE MINNESOTA TO STAND UP FOR OUR VALUES. TWO YEARS AGO THIS CITY PASSED A RESOLUTION MAKING MINNEAPOLIS A TRANSGENDER REFUGE TO HELP PROTECT AGAINST ATTACKS THAT WE WERE SEEING IN OTHER STATES, AGAINST ACCESS TO RIGHTS AND HEALTH CARE AND PROTECTIONS. AND IN THIS MOMENT WE ARE GOING TO BE TESTED. AND IT IS INCUMBENT ON EVERYONE WHETHER THAT IS THROUGH POSITIONS OF POWER OR IN YOUR EVERYDAY LIVES TO TAKE THAT MOMENT TO STAND UP FOR VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES, WHETHER THAT'S THE MEMBERS OF THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY, OUR UNDOCUMENTED FRIEND AND NEIGHBORS, OR OTHER FOLKS WHO MAY BE MADE VULNERABLE BY THIS NEXT ADMINISTRATION. SO I URGE ALL OF US REGARDLESS OF WHERE WE SIT IN THIS ROOM TO TAKE THOSE ACTIONS. TO STEP UP AND TO STAND WITH THOSE WHO NEED SUPPORT AND TO OUR TRANS YOUTH, KNOW THAT OUR COMMUNITIES WILL GET THROUGH THIS, THAT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE FIGHTING FOR YOU, AND THAT YOUR LIFE IS GOOD AND BEAUTIFUL AND CELEBRATED AND THAT THERE WILL BE a BETTER WORLD FOR YOU THAT WE WILL BUILD TOGETHER. [10:32] **Council Member Jenkins**: ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SHARE? SOME THOUGHTS? COMMENTS? NO? WELL, I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE SHOWING UP TO BE A PART OF THIS, TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS ACKNOWLEDGES, RECOGNIZES AND AFFIRMS TRANS AND GENDER NONCONFORMING LIVES, NOT ONLY IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. SO THANK YOU, ALL. [APPLAUSE] LET'S MOVE IN A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN GET A BEAUTIFUL PHOTO. YOU GUYS LOOK AMAZING. [12:51] **Council President Payne**: AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR NOVEMBER 14 TO ORDER. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [12:51] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI. [13:06] **Council Member Koski**: PRESENT. [13:06] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS. [13:06] **Council Member Jenkins**: PRESENT. [13:06] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. [13:06] **Council Member Palmisano**: PRESENT. [13:06] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. [13:06] **Council Member Chowdhury**: A PRESENT. [13:06] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. [13:06] **Council Member Cashman**: PRESENT. [13:06] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. [13:06] **Council Member Osman**: PRESENT. [13:06] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. [13:06] **Council Member Rainville**: PRESENT. [13:22] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [13:22] **Council Member Chavez**: PRESENT. [13:22] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [13:22] **Vice President Chughtai**: PRESENT. [13:22] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: PRESIDENT PAYNE. [13:22] **Council President Payne**: PRESENT. [13:22] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: THERE ARE 11 MEMBERS PRESENT. [13:22] **Council President Payne**: LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE HAVE A QUORUM. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, I WANT TO OFFER A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO ALL MEMBERS AND STAFF THAT THIS MEETING IS BROADCAST LIVE TO ENABLE GREATER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THE BROADCAST INCLUDES REAL-TIME CAPTIONING AS A FURTHER METHOD TO INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR PROCEEDINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE, ALL SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE RATE OF THEIR SPEECH SO THAT OUR CAPTIONERS CAN FULLY CAPTURE AND TRANSCRIBE ALL COMMENTS FOR THE BROADCAST. WE ASK ALL SPEAKERS TO MODERATE THE SPEED AND CLARITY OF THEIR COMMENTS. WITH THAT, THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S MEETING IS BEFORE US. ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA? SEEING NONE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA. [14:16] **Council Member**: SO MOVED. [14:16] **Council Member**: SECOND. [14:16] **Council President Payne**: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [14:16] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW, AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. THERE ARE 11 AYES. [14:32] **Council President Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. THE NEXT ITEM IS ACCEPTANCE OF THE MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR MEETING ON OCTOBER 31. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THOSE MINUTES. [14:48] **Council Member**: SO MOVED. [14:48] **Council Member**: SECOND. [14:48] **Council President Payne**: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [14:48] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: KOSKI AYE. JENKINS AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE, AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [15:04] **Council President Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED. FINALLY WE HAVE THE REFERRAL OF PETITIONS, COMMUNICATIONS AND REPORTS TO PROPER COMMITTEES. MAY I HAVE THAT MOTION? [15:04] **Council Member**: SO MOVED. [15:04] **Council Member**: SECOND. [15:04] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: KOSKI, AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. THERE ARE 11 AYES. [15:36] **Council President Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THE MATTERS HAVE BEEN REFERRED. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE PRESENTATION OF REPORTING FROM THE STANDING COMMITTEES TAKEN IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER BEGINNING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BE BY THE VICE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. [15:53] **Council Member Palmisano**: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THE AEO COMMITTEE BRINGS 25 ITEMS. THE FIRST THREE ARE GIFT ACCEPTANCES OF A ROUTINE NATURE. ITEM FOUR IS THE 2024 PROPERTY TAX SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AND ADJUSTMENTS OF DELINQUENT UTILITY CHARGES. ITEM FIVE IS THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY CAPITAL PROJECTS. ITEM SIX IS A BID FOR CONVENTION CENTER REMODELLING. ITEM 7 IS A BID FOR PHILLIPS TRAFFIC SAFETY PROJECT. ITEM 8 IS THE LOW BID FOR 30th AVENUE SOUTH SANITARY SEWER REPLACEMENT PROJECT. THE NEXT TWO ITEM NUMBERS 9 AND 10 ARE THE FIRE REMEDIATION AND CLEANUP AND IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AT THE OLD THIRD PRECINCT, 3000 MINNEHAHA. ITEM 11 IS THE BID FOR THE FULTON RESIDENTIAL ADA PED RAMP IMPROVEMENTS. ITEM 12 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT FOR THE 311 SYSTEM. ITEM 13 ARE CONTRACTS FOR LEGAL SERVICES FOR OUR BOND TRANSACTIONS. ITEM 14 IS THE STATE OF MINNESOTA GRANT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TRAINING APPARATUS EXPANSION PROJECT. ITEM 14 IS THE LARGE GRANT ACCEPTANCE OF $2.5 MILLION FROM THE STATE. ITEM 15 IS A SMALL CONTRACT FOR DESIGN SERVICES FOR THAT EXPANSION. ITEM 16 IS THE LEASE AMENDMENT WITH MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR THE SPACE AT 4131 DUPONT AVENUE NORTH. ITEM 17 IS A LEGAL SETTLEMENT FOR PERSONAL INJURY ACCIDENT CASE. ITEM 18 IS A WORKERS' COMPENSATION SETTLEMENT FOR MICHAEL NELSON. ITEM 19, A LEGAL SETTLEMENT WORKERS' COMPENSATION CLAIM FOR PAUL DELLWO. ITEM 20, LEGAL SETTLEMENT FOR THE WORKERS' COMPENSATION CLAIM OF ISABEL MORENO. AND ITEM 21, THE LEGAL SETTLEMENT FOR WORKERS' COMPENSATION OF ANDREW PEDERSON. I SUBMIT ALL THESE FOR APPROVAL. [17:50] **Council President Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER -- I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [17:50] **Council Member Chavez**: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. I JUST LIKE TO MOVE NUMBER 18 AND NUMBER 19 FOR A SEPARATE VOTE. JUST SO IT CAN BE EASIER FOR THE CLERKS TO CHECK MY NO VOTE. [18:09] **Council President Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ HAS REQUESTED A SEPARATE VOTE FOR 18 AND 19. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE ITEMS? COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. [18:09] **Council Member Rainville**: THANK YOU, CHAIR. I WANT TO SPEAK BRIEFLY TO ITEM 2, THE GIFT FROM CATERING AT THE CONVENTION CENTER IN HONOR OF THE VETERANS CLUB FORMED FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. THE VETERANS OF THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. THE YELLOW RIBBON DESIGNATION WERE THE FIRST CITY IN MINNESOTA TO BE RECOGNIZED AS A YELLOW RIBBON CITY WHICH OFFERS SUPPORTS TO THE VETERANS. AND I WANT TO EXPRESS MY THANKS TO NOT ONLY KELBER CATERING FOR THE HELP THROUGH THE PROCESS. [19:03] **Council President Payne**: SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL -- COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. [19:03] **Council Member Chowdhury**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. MAY -- MICROPHONE. SPEAKER MANAGEMENT IS NOT WORKING FOR ME, BUT I WANTED TO SPEAK TO ITEM 10, BID FOR 3000 MINNEHAHA BUILDING IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. JUST A NOTE FOR THE COMMUNITY, I KNOW MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS CARE ABOUT THE BLIGHT ON THE CORNER OF 3000 MINNEHAHA BEING REMEDIED. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO LIFT THIS UP, THIS BID WILL ALLOW FOR US TO MOVE ON THE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, MAKE SURE THAT THE -- THAT NEW WINDOWS, DOOR HARDWARE SKYLIGHT CONSTRUCTION OF EAST VESTIBULE, EXTERIOR REPAIRS ARE DONE. AND THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THE SPROJT TO PROVIDE A FULLY ENCLOSED, SAFE AND SECURE BUILDING TO ALLOW FOR THE EXTERIOR OF THE BARRIERS AROUND THE SITE. SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY GREAT THAT WE'RE PASSING THIS TODAY. WE'RE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD, AND I'M JUST EXCITED TO BRING BACK A THRIVING CORNER FOR OUR COMMUNITY OVER IN GREATER AND DOWNTOWN LONGFELLOW. [20:19] **Council President Payne**: THANK YOU. AND MR. CLERK, YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE? [20:19] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: WE WERE USING THAT TO TRACK COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY'S TIME. SORRY. [20:19] **Council President Payne**: GOTCHA. OKAY. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE AOE AGENDA, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL EXCEPT FOR ITEM 18 AND 19. [20:41] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: KOSKI AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. THERE ARE 11 AYES. [20:56] **Council President Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THE ITEMS ARE ADOPTED. NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP ITEMS 18 AND 19. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THOSE ITEMS? SEEING NONE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [20:56] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI, AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ NO. VETAW AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, NO. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. THERE ARE NINE YAY YAYS AND TWO NAYS. [21:31] **Council President Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THE FULL REPORT IS ADOPTED. THE NEXT REPORT IS FROM OUR BUDGET COMMITTEE, AND THAT REPORT WILL BE PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [21:31] **Vice President Chughtai**: THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. THE BUDGET COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD FIVE ITEMS. ITEM ONE IS DIRECTING STAFF TO PROVIDE A REPORT RELATED TO MUNICIPAL REVENUE SOURCES. ITEM 2 IS APPROVING AN INCREASE TO APPOINTED, NON-REMITTED AND POLITICALLY APPOINTED EMPLOYEE SALARY SCHEDULE FOR 2025. ITEM 3 IS ADOPTING FINDINGS APPROVING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AND APPROVING A SALARY SCHEDULE FOR THE APPOINTED POSITION IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE OF CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY CLERK. ITEM FOUR IS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AND PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION APPROVING A SALARY SCHEDULE FOR AN APPOINTED POSITION IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE OF DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATION. AND ITEM FIVE IS PASSAGE OF THREE RESOLUTIONS IE MENDING THE 2024 GENERAL APPROPRIATION RESOLUTION RELATED TO THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT REAPPROPRIATION. I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE ITEMS 1, 3, 4, AND 5. AND I WILL MOVE TO REFER ITEM NUMBER 2 BACK TO COMMITTEE FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK WITH ADMINISTRATION STAFF. [22:59] **Council President Payne**: VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE REPORT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM 2 TO REFER BACK TO COMMITTEE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I SAW COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN IN QUEUE. [23:14] **Council Member Cashman**: YEAH, I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT ITEM NUMBER TWO. [23:14] **Council President Payne**: OKAY. WE'LL TAKE THAT UP SEPARATELY PERHAPS. LET'S CALL -- OH, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. [23:14] **Council Member Vetaw**: THANK YOU. NUMBER TWO, WHY ARE WE REFERRING IT BACK? [23:30] **Council President Payne**: WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT. LET'S TAKE UP ITEMS 1, 3, 4, AND 5 FOR A VOTE. AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON ITEM 2. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE REPORT? SEEING NONE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON ALL ITEMS EXCEPT ITEM NUMBER TWO. [23:47] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI, AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. THERE ARE 11 AYES. [24:18] **Council President Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THOSE ITEMS ARE APPROVED. NEXT WE WILL TAKE ITEM NUMBER 2, AND I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. [24:18] **Council Member Cashman**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ON THIS ITEM I WONDER IF C.V.P. CHUGHTAI COULD HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WILL OR WOULD BE RECEIVING THE 4% RAISE, AND HOW MUCH MONEY IT TOTALS TO? [24:39] **Vice President Chughtai**: YEAH, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SO, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THREE ITEMS THAT REPRESENT THE APPOINTED, NONREPRESENTED EMPLOYEES, AND POLITICALLY APPOINTED AND IE SUB ITEMS 1, 2, AND 3 REFLECT THAT APPROPRIATELY. ITEM ONE T APPOINTED EMPLOYEES REPRESENT ABOUT -- JUST UNDER 150 EMPLOYEES HERE AT THE CITY. AND THESE RAISES COST ABOUT $1 MILLION. ITEM 2 REPRESENTS ABOUT 500, AND THOSE RAISES ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT $1.5 MILLION. ITEM THREE REPRESENTS 40 EMPLOYEES AND THOSE RAISES REPRESENT ABOUT JUST UNDER $150,000. SO A TOTAL OF LIKE $2.7 MILLION. [25:43] **Council Member Cashman**: THANK YOU. IS THAT INFORMATION ON THE LIMS FILE? IT IS, OKAY. [25:43] **Vice President Chughtai**: YES, THAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE LIMS FILE. [25:43] **Council Member Cashman**: I JUST WANT TO SAY I THINK I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE OUR COUNCIL STAFF ARE IN THIS CATEGORY. OUR DEPARTMENT, AND, YOU KNOW, THEIR STAFF AND THEIR RAISE IS AT RISK, BUT IT'S ALSO A LOT MORE EMPLOYEES. I WOULD LIKE TO READ INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE. I WILL JUST SUPPORT IT GOING BACK TO COMMITTEE. [26:17] **Council President Payne**: THANK YOU. I'LL FIRST RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. [26:17] **Council Member Vetaw**: THANK YOU. SO THIS IS GOING BACK BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED MORE INFORMATION AND DIDN'T GET ENOUGH INFORMATION IN COMMITTEE? OR IN THE LIMS FILE THAT IS ATTACHED TO THIS ITEM. [26:34] **Vice President Chughtai**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. YES. AND I WILL NOTE I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH C.O.O. ANDERSON KELLIHER ABOUT THIS ITEM YESTERDAY. SHE WAS ABLE TO GET SOME INFORMATION OVER YESTERDAY EVENING. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, TO, LIKE, REVIEW SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, AND THEN I WILL NOTE WE HAVE OUR FINAL MEETING AT THE NEXT BUDGET COMMITTEE WHERE WE WILL TAKE FINAL ACTION ON THIS ITEM. I KNOW DURING COMMITTEE WE HAD A REALLY LONG PUBLIC HEARING WHICH IS AWESOME. WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE COME IN AND EXPRESS THEIR PERSPECTIVES ON THE CITY BUDGET AT OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CITY BUDGET. AND SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET TO DISCUSSION ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS IN THE INTEREST OF TIME AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT LEAVING A LOT OF ITEMS FOR OUR FINAL MEETING. BUT THIS IS JUST ONE ITEM I'M HOPING TO HAVE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IN COMMITTEE. [27:27] **Council Member Vetaw**: I THINK THAT'S AWESOME. YOU SHOULD GET ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED, IN PARTICULAR IN COMMITTEE. [27:27] **Council Member Cashman**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION THAT I HAD HERE THAT I HOPE WILL TAKE UP IN BUDGET IS, YOU KNOW, WHY WE'RE GIVING A 4% RAISE TO THESE EMPLOYEES AND NOT TO THE ACSME EMPLOYEES WHICH WAS IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. SO THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT I HAD THAT I HOPE OUR CITY STAFF CAN ANSWER IN COMMITTEE. [28:12] **Council President Payne**: THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON REFERRING ITEM TWO BACK TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. [28:12] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. THERE ARE 12 AYES. [28:27] **Council President Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THE FULL REPORT IS ADOPTED. THE NEXT REPORT IS FROM OUR BUSINESS HOUSING AND ZONING COMMITTEE WHICH WILL BE GIVEN BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. [28:42] **Council Member Osman**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. BUSINESS HOUSING AND ZONING COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD 18 ITEM. ITEM 1 IS APPROVING A LIQUOR LICENSE FOR STARGAZER. ITEM 2 IS A LIQUOR LICENSE FOR QUEERMUNITY. ITEM 3 IS APPROVING AN INTERIM USE FERMENT FOR OUR SAVIOR'S COMMUNITY SERVICES. ITEM FOUR IS THE PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION APPROVING 2024 LEVY FOR SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS. ITEM FIVE IS A PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION APPROVING EMERGENCY STABILIZATION LAND SALE. ITEM 6 IS PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION APPROVING THE LAND SALE AT 3415 SECOND STREET NORTH. ITEM 7 IS DENYING AN APPEAL REGARDING THE DECISION OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. ITEM 8 IS DELETING FROM THAT AGENDA THE LIQUOR LICENSE REVOCATION FOR JEWEL OF INDIA. ITEM 9 IS DELETING FROM THE AGENDA THE LIQUOR LICENSE AND TOBACCO LICENSE REVOCATION FOR BREAKFAST BAR OF MINNESOTA. ITEM 10 IS APPROVING THREE LIQUOR LICENSE. ITEM 11 IS APPROVING SEVEN LIQUOR LICENSE RENEWALS. ITEM 12 IS APPROVING ONE GAMBLING LICENSE AND DELETING FROM THE AGENDA ITEM 12.2 THE GAMBLING LICENSE FOR COON RAPIDS LIONS. IE THEM 13 IS APPROVING A GREAT STREET LOAN FOR BLISS CREEK CREATIVE. AND ITEM 14 IS A GREAT STREET LOAN. ITEM 15 IS APPROVING A MASTER GRANT CONTRACT FOR EMPLOYMENT RELATED SERVICES. ITEM 16 IS A PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CARRY JSH FWAND OF TAX EXEMPT HOUSING REVENUE BOND FROM 2024. ITEM 17 IS APPROVING TECHNICAL CHANGES TO THE ZONING CODE OF ORDINANCE. AND ITEM 18 IS APPROVING A4D AFFORDABLE HOUSING REVISIONS. THIS IS BEING FORWARDED WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. I WILL MOVE EVERYTHING FOR APPROVAL EXCEPT 8, 9, AND 12.2 WHICH I MOVE TO DELETE FROM THE AGENDA. AND 18 WHICH I PULL FOR DISCUSSION. [30:51] **Council President Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT MINUS THE ITEMS THAT WERE DELETED, AND PULLING ITEM 18 FOR SEPARATE VOTE AND DISCUSSION. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE AGENDA? COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS. [31:09] **Council Member Jenkins**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO ITEM 13 BRIEFLY, AND THANK STAFF FOR WORKING WITH PILLSBURY HOUSING THEATER FOR THEIR NEW PROJECT CALLED PILLSBURY COMMUNITY COMMONS, WHICH WILL PROVIDE JOBS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THEATER INDUSTRY, BUT EVEN BEYOND THAT IT WILL BE AN AMAZING ADDITION TO THE CHICAGO AVENUE. AND GEORGE FLOYD SQUARE AS IT WILL BE A CENTER FOR I THINK CREATIVE IDEAS, A CENTER FOR SOCIAL SERVICES AS WELL AS NEW THEATER THAT WILL BE ACCESSIBLE AND INCREDIBLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO PILLSBURY COMMUNITY COMMONS. THANK YOU. [32:21] **Council Member Chavez**: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ON ITEM 13, THE GREAT STREET FOR PILLSBURY CREATIVE COMMONS FOR PHASE ONE PART OF THE PROJECT. THIS IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD ALONG WITH COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS LAST YEAR THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, AND JUST VERY GLAD TO SEE THE WORK OF OUR COMMUNITY COME TO FRUITION NEAR THE GEORGE FLOYD SQUARE AREA. IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO HELP MANY OF OUR YOUTH AND MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. AND IT IS AN EXCITING THING THAT WE GET TO BE VERY PROUD OF. I ALSO AM EXCITED ABOUT ITEM 14, ANOTHER GREAT STREET LOAN FOR THE NATIVE AMERICAN COMMUNITY CLINIC WHICH WILL HELP WITH A NEW CLINIC SPACE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING ABOVE THAT WILL HELP AN ADDITIONAL 3,000 PATIENTS PER YEAR, SO IT'S A GOOD PROJECT IN THE PHILLIPS AREA AS WELL. [33:24] **Council President Payne**: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON ITEMS 1 THROUGH 17 INCLUDING THE DELETIONS OF NUMBER 8, 9, AND 12.2. [33:24] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON -- THIS IS FOR ITEMS 1-17 WITH 8 AND 9 BEING THE DENIALS AS RECOMMENDED. AND ITEM 12.2 DELETED. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI, AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. THERE ARE 12 YAY YAYS. [34:21] **Council President Payne**: THOSE ITEMS CARRY AND NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM 18 AND I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. [34:21] **Council Member Osman**: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THIS ITEM WAS MOVED WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. WE HAD A LENGTHY DISCUSSION. I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF. THE CHANGES ONLY APPLY, I BELIEVE, ONE BEDROOM TO A SUFFICIENT UNIT A STUDIO. THAT CHANGE WAS MADE BY THE STAFF AND THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK DONE BY THE STAFF AND LENGTHY DISCUSSION. I TALKED TO THE STAFF YESTERDAY. AND THEY HAVEN'T REALLY RAISED ANY CONCERN OR ANYONE WHO HAS CONTACTED WITH THEM, SO I WILL MOVE THIS ITEM FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. [34:53] **Council President Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN HAS MOVED THIS ITEM FOR APPROVAL. I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. [34:53] **Council Member Chowdhury**: THANK YOU PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WAS ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO SUPPORTED MOVING THIS WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. I KNOW THAT STAFF HAS HEARD SOME CONCERNS FROM STAKEHOLDERS IN OUR COMMUNITIES, INDIVIDUALS. HOWEVER, UPON A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS CHANGE MOVING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING -- THE 4D PROGRAM FROM 60% TO 50% AMI FOR THIS APPLICATION ROUND AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WITH THE STATE STATUTE CHANGE THAT BROUGHT UP THE TAX REDUCTION FOR THOSE THAT ENROLL THEIR UNITS INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRESERVATION THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, WE'VE SEEN AN EXPLOSION OF APPLICANTS. I UNDERSTAND WHY OUR DEPARTMENT IS INTERESTED IN BRINGING IT TO 50% AMI. SEEING IF WE CAN LOCK IN MORE UNITS INTO AFFORDABILITY AT A DEEPER AFFORDABLE RATE, ESPECIALLY IF THE MEDIAN MARKET RATE IS IN SOME PARTS OF OUR CITY BELOW 60% AMI AT PRESENT. I DO WANT THIS BODY TO CONSIDER NEXT YEAR AFTER THESE APPLICATIONS ARE DONE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVE ONCE THIS CHANGE IS MADE. OUR DEPARTMENT STAFF HAVE SHARED WITH ME AND THE BHIZ COMMITTEE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THEY ARE KIND OF TESTING OUT, RIGHT? SO THIS IS LIKE A DATA COLLECTION OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS AFFECTS THE NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT ARE PRESERVED, SO I THINK WE SHOULD PUT IN A LOT OF CONSIDERATION NEXT YEAR ONCE APPLICATIONS ARE IN, AND THEN I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT WHERE THOSE UNITS IN OUR CITY ARE ENROLLED FOR PRESERVATION. I THINK WE WANT TO SEE IF UNITS ARE JUST GETTING CONCENTRATED IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY, AND I THINK IT'S GOOD IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS IF WE'RE SEEING NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRESERVED IN MY WARD, IN THE SECOND WARD, IN THE FIRST WARD, JUST SO WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS TO NO MATTER THEIR INCOME TO LIVE WHEREVER THEY WANT TO BE. SO THOSE ARE THE COMMENTS I WANTED TO MAKE. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS TODAY. [37:57] **Council Member Cashman**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS WHEN I HEARD ABOUT IT FROM STAFF, AND SINCE THEN HAVE HEARD A LOT OF DISAPPOINTMENT, I GUESS, FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS ABOUT WHY WOULD WE LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO CAN PARTICIPATE IN THIS VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM. I ALSO, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, THINK WE DESERVE LIKE AN AFTER-ACTION AND MAYBE WE CAN WORK ON A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE TOGETHER TO ACTUALLY HAVE SOME EVALUATION OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS CHANGE IN ADDITION TO THE DISPERSAL OF DIFFERENT 4D UNITS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE SCENARIOS ARE BECAUSE WE ARE WITH THIS CHANGE, YOU KNOW, LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM, AND IT'S PARTIALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY TAX SHORTFALL RIGHT NOW. AND WE DON'T WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO INCREASING THAT GAP THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FILL. AND I ALSO WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH STAFF CAPACITY WE HAVE FOR THIS PROGRAM AND WHETHER IT'S ENOUGH TO PROCESS ALL OF THE BLOSSOMING, BLOOMING AMOUNT OF APPLICATIONS THAT WE'RE GETTING, AND WHETHER, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT IS BEING STAFFED APPROPRIATELY. I THINK THE 4D PROGRAM IS A REALLY GREAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING TOOL THAT WE HAVE, AND IT'S PROVING TO BE. SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS AS WELL TODAY, AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY AND I AND OTHERS IN THE BIZ COMMITTEE CAN WORK ON MAKING SURE WE GET SOME DATA AND AN INFLECTION POINT MID NEXT YEAR TO ASSESS WHETHER THIS CHANGE REALLY WAS ACHIEVING THE OUTCOMES THAT IT'S INTENDED FOR. [38:57] **Council Member Rainville**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I, TOO, WAS IN COMMITTEE AND VOTED TO FORWARD THIS WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION AFTER HEARING A LOT OF TESTIMONY. AND IN FACT, SINCE THAT TIME THERE'S BEEN SOME REALLY COMPELLING ARGUMENTS FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS FOR THE COST BENEFIT OF PRESERVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING VERSUS BUILDING NEW ONES. SO I AM GOING TO SIDE WITH STAFF ON THIS AND VOTE FOR IT, BUT I ALSO WANT TO GIVE STAFF A HEADS UP THAT WE'RE EXPECTING SOME GOOD DATA, AND A CONTINUED CONVERSATION ON THIS BECAUSE THE GAP BETWEEN WHAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS SAY IS TREMENDOUS. AND IT APPEARS ON FACE VALUE THAT WE COULD BUILD -- SAVE MORE HOUSING BY NOT DOING THIS, BUT LET'S GO FORWARD. LET'S AGREE WITH OUR STAFF, AND LET'S MONITOR THIS. THANK YOU. [40:26] **Council Member Jenkins**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I THINK I WAS THE PERSON WHO MADE THE MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION, AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I WOULD JUST COMMENT ONE OF THE INTERESTING ASPECTS OF THIS THAT I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY TOUCHED ON IS THAT WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE A GREAT NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE UNDER 60% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME. AND SO THIS NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS HAPPENING. AND THIS WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO THE PROCESS. BUT I DO SUPPORT THE IDEA OF COUNCIL MEMBERS BROUGHT FORWARD BY COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN AND DHOU CHOW TO REALLY GET A REPORT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS -- CHOWDHURY TO REALLY GET A REPORT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE IMPACTING THE MARKET. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS TODAY AND ALSO SUPPORTING THE IDEA OF THE AFTER-ACTION REPORT. [42:08] **Council President Payne**: AN I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON ITEM 18. [42:08] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, AYE. KOSKI AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. OSMAN AYE. VETAW AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHOWDHURY, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. THERE ARE 12 AYES. [42:39] **Council President Payne**: THE NEXT REPORT IS THE CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE PRESENTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. [42:39] **Council Member Cashman**: WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD 13 ITEMS. ITEM 1 A LARGE BLOCK EVENT PERMIT FOR HOLIDAZZLE. ITEM 2, WELCOME DOWNTOWN TARGET. ITEM 3 AUTHORIZING THE TARGET AND THE HUB MOBILITY WORK. ITEM 4 AUTHORIZING A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH MN-DOT AND HENNEPIN COUNTY FOR TRAFFIC SIGNAL WORK. ITEM 5, AUTHORIZING ACCEPTANCE OF GRANT FOR PHILLIPS TRAFFIC SAFETY ANDERSON KELLIHERERSON SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL. ITEM 6 IS ACCEPTING FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING FROM THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL PROGRAM. ITEM 7 IS ACCEPTING FEDERAL AND STATE TRANSPORTATION GRANT FUNDING FOR VARIOUS CITY TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. ITEM 8 IS ADOPTING THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND PARK BOARD STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. ITEM 9 IS CONCURRING WITH THE CITY ENGINEER'S VARIANCE REQUEST FOR THE WHITTIER INTERNATIONAL ELEMENTARY SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL PROJECT. ITEM 10 IS AUTHORIZING THE SUBMITTAL OF A GRANT APPLICATION FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT OF A BIOCHAR PRODUCTION FACILITY. ITEM 11 IS IS ADJUSTING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM APPROPRIATION AND REVENUE ADJUSTMENTS. ITEM 12 IS THE SUBMISSION OF THE APPLICATION FOR FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION FUNDS THROUGH THE 2025 RAISE PROGRAM. AND ITEM 13 IS AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF AN APPLICATION FOR THE IIJA MATCH PROGRAM. I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL THE ITEMS. [44:11] **Council President Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [44:11] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, AYE. KOSKI AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. THERE ARE 12 YAY YAYS. [44:46] **Council President Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THE REPORT IS ADOPTED. THE NEXT REPORT HAVE FROM THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [44:46] **Council Member Chavez**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD ONE ITEM WHICH IS APPROVING A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE RELATED TO UPDATES ON THE COURT-ENFORCEABLE LEGAL SETTLEMENT WITH THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS INCLUDING THE ROLE OF THE INDEPENDENT EVALUATOR. I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. [45:12] **Council President Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NUB, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [45:12] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, AYE. KOSKI AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO, AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. THERE ARE 12 AYES. [45:44] **Council President Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THE REPORT IS ADOPTED. THE FINAL REPORT WILL BE OFFERED BY OUR PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [45:44] **Council Member Chavez**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD THREE ITEMS. ITEM ONE IS CIVIL RIGHTS COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS. ITEM TWO IS A POLLUTION CONTROL ANNUAL REGISTRATION ORDINANCE. AND ITEM 3 IS A TOWARD ZERO DEATH GRANT FROM THE STATE OF MINNESOTA THROUGH THE CITY OF CRYSTAL POLICE DEPARTMENT TO IMPROVE SAFETY OF MINNEAPOLIS ROADS. ITEM FOUR IS A PARTNER AGREEMENT WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA MEDICAL CENTER. ITEM FIVE IS SCHOOL BASED MENTAL HEALTH HENNEPIN COUNTY GRANT. ITEM 6 IS A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR THE LAKE STREET SAFETY CENTER. 7 IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT WITH THE MULTIHAZARD PLAN. AND 8 IS URBAN AREA SECURITY INITIATIVE GRANT FOR ENHANCING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CAPABILITIES. ITEM 9 IS MUNICIPAL GROCERY STORES LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. I A TEM 10 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH FAIRVIEW HEALTH SERVICES FOR LABORATORY TESTING SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CITY'S SCHOOL BASED CLINICS. ITEM 11 IS A MASTER GRANT CONTRACT WITH THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH FOR HEALTH SERVICES. ITEM 12 IS A LABOR STANDARDS BOARD RESOLUTION. WITH THAT, MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEMS 1 THROUGH 11 AND I MOVE ITEM 12 OUT -- I WILL SEPARATE THAT OUT FOR DISCUSSION. [47:11] **Council President Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF ITEMS 1-11, SEPARATING OUT ITEM 12 FOR A SEPARATE VOTE AND DISCUSSION. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEMS 1-11? COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW, I SEE IN QUEUE. NO OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. [47:28] **Council Member Cashman**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'RE APPOINTING NEW MEMBERS TO THE CIVIL RIGHTS COMMISSION AND WANTED TO THANK DAVID JONES FROM WARD 7 FOR STEPPING INTO THAT ROLE. IT IS A COMMISSION THAT HAS A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF TIME CONSUMING WORK. AND SO JUST WANTED TO APPRECIATE HIM FOR APPLYING AND CONGRATULATE HIM ON HIS APPOINTMENT. [47:47] **Council Member Jenkins**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I'M WONDERING IF I CAN GET OR WE CAN GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE MUNICIPAL GROCERY STORE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE I THINK. [48:16] **Council Member Cashman**: I CAN JUST TAKE IT. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I CAN JUST TAKE a QUICK STAB AT THIS BASED ON -- I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY ABOUT THIS LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. AND IT SOUND LIKE THERE'S AN ISSUE OF STUDENTS BY THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA LIVING IN A FOOD DESERT. AND I'M SURE MANY OF US IN OUR WARDS HAVE A SIMILAR SITUATION, AND SO THE GOAL WAS TO HAVE OUR POLICY AND RESEARCH TEAM LOOK INTO DIFFERENT MODELS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY ABOUT HOW TO SUPPORT MORE COMMUNITY-BASED GROCERY STORE OPTIONS LIKE COOPERATIVES OR MUNICIPAL GROCERY STORES THAT EXIST IN SOME PLACES AND OTHER WAYS TO ENSURE, LIKE, AFFORDABLE AND FRESH FOOD IN ALL AREAS OF THE CITY. SO HOPE THAT ANSWERS A LITTLE BIT WHAT IT'S ABOUT. [49:08] **Council Member Jenkins**: THANK YOU. SO I GUESS, IS THE INTENT THAT THE CITY WOULD OWN AND OPERATE GROCERY STORES? [49:08] **Council Member Cashman**: I BELIEVE IT'S A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE THAT WOULD INQUIRE ABOUT THE POTENTIALIALTY OF THAT, BUT IT WOULD SIMPLY BE A REPORT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. [49:32] **Council Member Chavez**: MR. PRESIDENT, IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE LITTLE PIECE TO THAT. I THINK IT'S A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE ASKING STAFF TO COME BACK WITH RESEARCH ON COMPARABLE JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE OF FOOD AVAILABILITY IN THEIR COMMUNITY. SO IT'S A COMPARE AND CONTRAST WITH THE STATE OF MINNEAPOLIS COMPARED TO OTHER COMMUNITIES IF THAT MAKES SENSE. [50:12] **Council Member Chavez**: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY TALK ABOUT THE M.O.U. FOR THE LAKE STREET SAFETY CENTER. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR MANY YEARS, AND JUST WANTED TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THE LAKE STREET SAFETY SENTER IS OPEN. IT IS NEXT TO THE LIGHT RAIL. AND IT IS A GOOD ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT M.O.U. WITH OUR DIFFERENT COMMUNITY PARTNERS. [50:12] **Council Member Chowdhury**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I'M GOING TO TAKE A SECOND TO ALSO TALK ABOUT THE LAKE STREET SAFETY CENTER, BUT PUT MY COLLEAGUE COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ ON THE SPOT REALLY QUICK. I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS YEARS OF WORK IN BRINGING TOGETHER HIS RESIDENTS, WORKING WITH THE LAKE STREET GREENWAY PARTNERSHIP, WORKING WITH THE FAMILY PARTNERSHIP, WORKING WITH VIOLENCE INTERRUPTER, WORKING WITH ME AS ONE OF HIS COLLEAGUES, COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI, THE MAYOR, AND BREATHING A LOT OF ENERGY INTO GETTING THE LAKE STREET SAFETY CENTER MOVING FORWARD. THIS IS AMAZING ASSET. THIS IS GREAT TO HAVE IN THE THIRD PRECINCT FINALLY AND AN IN-PERSON PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET NON-EMERGENCY SAFETY SERVICES. WHERE THEY CAN FILE A POLICE REPORT, WHERE THEY CAN GET 311 SERVICES. AND I THINK THE CITY STAFF THAT WORKED REALLY HARD ON THIS, DIRECTOR AMANDA HARRINGTON, SHE POURED IN A LOT OF WORK. OUR 311 DEPARTMENT AND STAFF, WE HAVE TWO STAFF MEMBERS THAT WILL BE WORKING OUT OF THERE. AND WE CELEBRATED THE OPENING BUT THIS IS OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF SPEAK AT IT AT THE COUNCIL MEETING. I JUST THANK EVERYONE FOR THE WORK ON THIS. THIS IS A TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS THING THAT WE'VE MOVED FORWARD IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. IT WAS THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE WE ALLOCATED THIS FUNDING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, SO THANK YOU. [52:07] **Council President Payne**: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON ITEMS 1-11. [52:07] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, AYE. KOSKI AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ AYE. VETAW AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. THERE ARE 12 AYE. [52:23] **Council President Payne**: THAT CARRIES AND THOSE ITEMS ARE ADOPTED. NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM 12, AND I WILL CALL ON COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. [52:23] **Council Member Vetaw**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. COLLEAGUES, I LET YOU KNOW EARLIER THIS WEEK THAT I WOULD BE BRINGING THIS MOTION FORWARD. I AM MOTIONING TO REFER THE LABOR STANDARDS BOARD RESOLUTION TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING ON DECEMBER 3, AND TO DIRECT THE CITY CLERK TO PROVIDE A NOTICE AND SCHEDULE FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AT THAT HEARING. I'VE HEARD FROM LOTS OF FOLKS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE LABOR STANDARDS BOARD. I ALSO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'VE HEARD COLLEAGUES LOUD AND CLEAR THIS WEEK TALK ABOUT NEEDING MORE INFORMATION, AND I NEED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS MYSELF. THERE'S PROBABLY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 8-10 AMENDMENTS BEFORE US THIS MORNING ON THE LABOR STANDARDS RESOLUTION. SO I WOULD LIKE TIME TO TALK TO WARD 4 WORKERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS ABOUT THIS. JUST LAST NIGHT I WAS AT A MEETING WITH PROBABLY SEVEN WARD FOUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE BUSINESS OWNERS AND WORKERS WHO HAD NO IDEA ABOUT WHAT WAS COMING BEFORE THIS COUNCIL TODAY, BUT HAVE SEEN THINGS ON THE NEWS. AND I JUST THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO START THIS BOARD, WE START IT OUT THE RIGHT WAY. WE START IT WITH BELIEF IN IT, AND BELIEVING IN THAT AND HAVING BELIEF IN THAT MEANS THAT PEOPLE GET TO HAVE a VOICE. THIS IS ABOUT BRINGING A TABLE TOGETHER, AND WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A BAD TABLE BEFORE IT EVEN GETS STARTED. SO I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY, ANOTHER CYCLE, FOR US TO HEAR FROM COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS, ALL COMMUNITIES, NOT JUST ONE SIDE OF THE ISSUE, ALL SIDES OF THE ISSUE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE SOME TIME TO TALK THROUGH THESE AMENDMENTS AND THIS ENTIRE RESOLUTION BECAUSE I DID GET THE LANGUAGE FAIRLY LATELY, AND AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I DID NOT WANT TO APPEAR TO BE ON A PARTICULAR SIDE OF IT, SO I TRIED TO GIVE ADVOCATES THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK OUT AND TALK TO WARD 4 RESIDENTS. I WOULD LIKE TIME TO ORGANIZE AROUND THE ISSUE IN MY WARD AND SEE WHERE PEOPLE ARE TO GIVE THE PEOPLE OF MINNEAPOLIS A VOICE WITH A PUBLIC HEARING AND TIME TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE LABOR STANDARDS BOARD IS GOING TO BE AND WHAT SEAT THEY WANT AT THIS TABLE. [54:55] **Council Member Rainville**: I DID SECOND THIS MOTION BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED MORE TIME TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO WAY IN ON THIS AND NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING THAT WILL BE BAD DEMOCRACY AND INCREDIBLY BAD TRANSPARENCY AND IF THIS IDEA GOES FORWARD AS COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW SAID, WE SHOULD BE AT THE ABLE ON THAT -- AT THE TABLE ON THAT. THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THE WORKERS. WE SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE OUT HERE TODAY. WE SEE THE INTEREST IN THIS SO LET'S SLOW THIS DOWN, GET MORE TIME AND ESPECIALLY TO REVIEW ALL THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE THROWN ON US OVERNIGHT. SO I WOULD INVITE MY COLLEAGUES TO SLOW THIS DOWN AND HAVE MORE DISCUSSIONS FROM THE PUBLIC. [55:52] **Council Member Jenkins**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I, TOO, SUPPORT COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW MOTION TO REFER BACK TO COMMITTEE. AS AN AUTHOR OF TWEEMENTS THAT I DEEPLY -- AUTHOR OF TWO AMENDMENTS THAT I DEEPLY SHARE I HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL. AND I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ELSE IS BEING PROPOSED AND A PUBLIC HEARING SHOULD BE AFFORDED TO THIS, A., VERY COMPLICATED RESOLUTION AS WELL AS THE FACT WE LITERALLY HAD TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS WEEK RELATIVE TO ISSUES THAT WHILE ARE DEEPLY IMPORTANT WOULD NOT HAVE THE SAME IMPACT AS THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION. SO I SUPPORT THE MOTION TO REFER BACK TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. [57:36] **Council Member Koski**: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. I OWNED AND OPERATED MY OWN SMALL BUSINESS FOR OVER A DECADE, AND IT IS AS DEMANDING AS IT GETS. EVERY DAY IS FILLED WITH NEW CHALLENGES AND AS THE OWNER, YOU ARE THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR FACING THEM HEAD ON. IT'S A CONSTANT CYCLE OF DECISION MAKING, PROBLEM SOLVING, AND MANAGING, COMPETING PRIORITIES, AND THE PRESSURE NEVER LETS UP. THERE IS NO DOWN TIME. NO ROOM TO STEP BACK. AND EVEN WHEN THINGS ARE GOING WELL, THERE IS ALWAYS ANOTHER TASK OR ISSUE TO HANDLE. IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT WORKING HARD. IT'S ABOUT COMMITTING EVERYTHING YOU'VE GOT DAY IN AND DAY OUT TO ENSURE THE BUSINESS STAYS AFLOAT AND THRIVES. EARLIER THIS WEEK A FEW OF OUR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS SHARED THE CHALLENGES THEY ARE FACING AND THE CONCERNS THEY HAVE WITH THIS PROPOSAL. I DIDN'T JUST HEAR THEIR CONCERNS. I FELT THEM DEEPLY BECAUSE THOSE WERE THE SAME BATTLES I FOUGHT EVERY DAY AS A BUSINESS OWNER. IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS SINCE MAYOR FREY STOOD CHANTING ON THE CITY HALL STEPS LOUDLY, PROUDLY, CALLING FOR THE CREATION OF A LABOR STANDARDS BOARD. A NUMBER OF US STOOD ON THOSE STEPS TOO. COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI UGH, OSMAN VETAW RAINVILLE PALMISANO AND NOW TIMES AND POSITIONS HAVE CHANGED. SINCE THEN COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE AND I HAVE HAD TO FIGHT TO SUSTAIN THE LABOR STANDARDS CODE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM EVERY BUDGET CYCLE. I WORKED TIRELESSLY TO SECURE RESOURCES FOR THE PILOT PROGRAM I ESTABLISHED WITH THE CITY'S LABOR STANDARDS ENFORCEMENT DIVISION, AND THE WORK PLACE JUSTICE LAB WHICH ASSISTS SMALL BUSINESSES IN NAVIGATING BUREAUCRACY AND MEETING LABOR STANDARDS. NOW WE FIND OURSELVES AT ODDS OVER THE LABOR STANDARDS BOARD, THE VERY INITIATIVE WE ONCE CHAMPIONED AND PROMISED TO DELIVER. OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS I WORKED WITH THE MAYOR AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBERS CHUGHTAI AND CHOWDHURY AND CASHMAN ON THIS PROPOSAL. I WAS INVOLVED IN DISCUSSIONS AND WORKERS STORIES AND ENGAGED WITH BUSINESS OWNERS AND THIS BECAME CLEAR TO ME THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AND DRIVE MEANINGFUL CHANGE WITH EMPLOYERS AND WORKERS. FOR EMPLOYERS AND WORKERS. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE STILL SMALL AND LARGE BUSINESS OWNERS AND BUSINESS ASSOCIATIONS THAT FEEL THEY HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK PUBLICLY ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL, TO ASK FOR QUESTIONS, AND GET ANSWERS, AND TO SEE THE VALUE THAT I SEE. SO FOR THAT REASON, I DO SUPPORT REFERRING THIS TO THE NEXT C.O.W. MEETING TO ALLOW TIME FOR THE ENGAGEMENT AND FEEDBACK. I ASK IF THIS PASSES THAT THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS AND ASSOCIATIONS COME TO THE TABLE. HAVE AN OPEN DIALOGUE. AND GIVE SPECIFIC, CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK ON IMPROVING THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. [1:00:32] **Council Member Cashman**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WILL NOT SUPPORT A MOTION TO SEND THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE. I DO THINK THAT THERE'S SOME BUSINESS OWNERS IN THIS DISCOURSE WHO NO MATTER WHICH CHANGES TO THIS, NO MATTER HOW MANY PUBLIC COMMENT PERIODS, NO MATTER HOW MANY DELAYS NO, MATTER HOW MANY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WILL NEVER SUPPORT THIS BOARD. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO COME TO TERMS WITH. IT'S DISAPPOINTING, SURE, BUT THERE ARE ALSO A LOT OF BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS AND BUSINESSES WHO DO SUPPORT THIS. MANY OF WHOM I HAVE SPOKEN TO. AND AS COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SAID, THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS SINCE 2022, WELL BEFORE I WAS ON THE COUNCIL. AND EVEN JUST THIS YEAR AS A CO-AUTHOR OF THIS, WE HAD IN MARCH A LISTENING SESSION WITH OVER 200 ATEN DES. WE HAD A LISTENING SESSION IN APRIL WITH 50 PLUS ATTENDEES. WE HAD A STAKEHOLDER MEETING IN JULY WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL THE GROUPS WHO MIGHT PARTICIPATE ON THIS BOARD. WE HAD A MEETING WITH BIPOC RESTAURATEURS IN OCTOBER BECAUSE THEY'RE UNDER A LOT OF PRESSURE IN A SLIM MARGIN INDUSTRY AND FEELING ESPECIALLY SCARED ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN FROM THIS BOARD. I HAD 10-PLUS SIT DOWN COFFEE MEETINGS WITH INDIVIDUALS ON THIS. I'VE HAD I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PHONE CONVERSATIONS, DONE ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN MEDIA INTERVIEWS. THERE HAVE BEEN 20 STORIES ON THIS JUST WITHIN THE LAST WEEK IF YOU LOOK AT GOOGLE NEWS, SO TO SAY MORE CONVERSATIONS NEED TO BE HAD I THINK IS DISINGENUOUS AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS WILL BE HAD ON THE BOARD. AND THAT IS a GREAT PLACE FOR THEM TO HAPPEN. SO NOT SUPPORTING A FURTHER DELAY. [1:02:17] **Council Member Chowdhury**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. YEAH, I WON'T BE SUPPORTING A DELAY TODAY AS WELL. THE NOTICE FOR THIS RESOLUTION, THIS WORK WAS JANUARY 25, 2024. AND THERE WERE MANY POINTS THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS AND A WHOLE YEAR PRIOR TO BEFORE I GOT ON THIS COUNCIL TO ENGAGE WITH THE LABOR STANDARDS BOARD RESOLUTION. AND AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, IF THERE IS A POLICY THAT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, I KNOW THAT I'M NOT ALWAYS GOING TO BE GUARANTEED A BRIEFING AT MY DOOR. AND SO I GO OUT AND I ASK MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES, LIKE, CAN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT YOUR POLICY IS? I AM SEEING IT IN THE NEWS AND A LOT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS DID COME DOWN AND SIT AND TALK TO ME. AND SOME DIDN'T. AND WE ALL GET TO MAKE THAT CHOICE. BUT THERE WAS TIME TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WE EVEN HAD A PUBLIC MEETING WITH WORKERS WHERE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE INVITED TO JOIN. THERE WAS OPPORTUNITIES THERE. I WILL ALSO SAY THAT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A PARADOX HERE. THIS IS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO AN ADVISORY BOARD ESSENTIALLY, RIGHT? WE HAVE MANY ADVISORY BOARD. THIS IS JUST CREATING A TABLE FOR POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS WITH ACTUALLY A LOT OF RED TAPE, RIGHT? IN A LOT OF WAYS IT IS NOT THIS GIANT, HUGE THING THAT IS GOING TO POUR OUT AN ONSLAUGHT OF LABOR REGULATIONS DAY IN AND DAY OUT. HOWEVER, THE WONDERFUL AND GREAT THING ABOUT THIS THAT TAKES A STEP FORWARD FOR THE CITY IS GIVING WORKERS A SAY. GIVING THEM AN EQUAL PLACE AT THE TABLE. AND THAT MATTERS. THAT MATTERS HERE. I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PRESENTATION THAT WE GAVE THEM AT THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE. GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE SLIDE WHILE WE'RE UP HERE. THAT WAS ONE POINT IN ORDER TO ENGAGE. I'LL ALSO SHARE ON TOP OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN SHARED IS THAT WE HAD A MEETING WITH DOWNTOWN COUNCIL, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, MINNESOTA HOSPITALITY, WHERE WE GAVE THEM A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION. WE WENT LINE BY LINE -- LINE BY LINE -- ON THIS WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE THAT MATTERED TO US. WE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH THEM. I HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH MINNESOTA HOSPITALITY. I MET WITH BUSINESS OWNERS IN MY WARD. I HAD BUSINESS OWNERS COME TO THE TABLE AT MY OFFICE HOURS. WE ENGAGED. AND THIS IS ABOUT CREATING EQUAL SAY. THREE PARTS TO A LABOR STANDARDS BOARD TO CREATE A WORK GROUP THAT WILL HAVE TO WORK FOR SIX MONTHS AT THE MAXIMUM AND THEN CLOSE THEIR WORK AND THEN HAVE TO VOTE ONE FROM EACH SECTOR, EMPLOYEE REPRESENTATIVE, EMPLOYER REPRESENTATIVE, AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER WILL HAVE TO VOTE AFFIRMATIVELY IN FAVOR TO RECOMMEND A POLICY TO A BODY THAT NEEDS TO VOTE IN SEVEN AND THEN OVERRIDE A VETO BY NINE. THIS IS ALREADY PUTTING A LOT OF WORK ON WORKERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR VOICE CAN BE HEARD TO SAY I NEED A LABOR STANDARD IN MY WORK PLACE. THEY HAVE TO CITY FACE TO FACE WITH THEIR EMPLOYER. AND AN EMPLOYER HAS TO SIT FACE TO FACE WITH THEM. SO THE ENGAGEMENT HAS BEEN DONE. DELAYING THIS IN ORDER TO EITHER GUT AND DILUTE THIS ALREADY VERY RED TAPE ORIENTED POLICY THAT WE HAVE THAT WORKERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND HIGH ROAD EMPLOYERS HAVE AGREED TO, OR TO HAVE ACTORS H THAT ARE UNWILLING TO EVEN PASS a LAY SFWORNDS BOARD FOR ANOTHER THREE WEEKS JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR DISCUSSION TODAY HERE IN COMMITTEE. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT ALL OF THE COLLEAGUES UP HERE CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE WORKERS IN OUR CITY AND THE BUSINESSES IN OUR CITY, AND THAT IS WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION TODAY. [1:07:01] **Council Member Vetaw**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I'M A LITTLE UPSET THAT YOU DIDN'T CALL OUT COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI FOR ASCRIBING MOTIVE, ONE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT RALLY SHE'S TALKING ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW BEING THERE. AND ASKING FOR LABOR STANDARDS BOARD. I HAVE NEVER TAKEN A POSITION ON LABOR STANDARDS BOARD EITHER WAY PUBLICLY, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT. I WOULD APPRECIATE IN THE FUTURE THAT YOU CALL OUT PEOPLE THE SAME WAY YOU DO ME WHEN THEY ASCRIBE MOTIVE. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF ASCRIBING MOTIVE WHEN YOU YELL IT OUT AT ME EVERY CHANCE YOU GET. SO IN THE FUTURE, PLEASE DO SO TO COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI AS WELL. AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY TO MY COLLEAGUES, THIS IS NOT ABOUT TEARING THIS APART. THIS IS NOT ABOUT CHANGING ANYONE'S VOTE ON WHERE THIS IS GOING TO GO. THIS IS ABOUT HEARING FROM PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I'VE HAD TO SAY IN THIS CHAMBERS THAT NORTH SIDERS FEEL LEFT OUT. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS. I HAVE HAD CONTACT WITH TWO ORGANIZERS ON THIS ISSUE OVER A YEAR AGO I ASKED THEM TO ORGANIZE IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS, GAVE THEM A LIST OF SPECIFIC WORKERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS TO CONTACT IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS. I HAVE IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS TALKED TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THAT LIST, AND HAVE BEEN TOLD, NO ONE REACHED OUT TO ME. I HAVE NOT HAD ANY CONTACT. I DID NOT KNOW. I WATCHED THE NEWS. WHOEVER SAID THAT THERE IS A LOT OF NEWS STORIES GOING ON, THAT IS CORRECT. AND IT'S SCARY TO PEOPLE. IF WE WANT PEOPLE TO APPLY TO BE ON THIS COMMISSION F WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ENGAGED AROUND THIS ISSUE, WHAT IS WRONG WITH HEARING FROM THEM? NO ONE IS SAYING END IT, TO GO AWAY. I DON'T WANT THAT. I'M NOT ASKING FOR THAT. WHAT I'M ASKING IS FOR OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE IN MINNEAPOLIS TO BE HEARD. WHEN I MET WITH ORGANIZERS AROUND THIS ISSUE, MAYBE TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS AGO, WHAT WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IS HOW THERE SHOULD BE A COALITION OF PEOPLE COMING TO US AS A COUNCIL, SUPPORTING THIS. IT SHOULDN'T BE TWO ORGANIZATIONS OR THREE ORGANIZATIONS. IT SHOULD BE A COALITION OF PEOPLE. I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT, AND I DEFINITELY HAVE NOT SEEN ANY ORGANIZING OR ENGAGEMENT IN THE WARD THAT I REPRESENT. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR HERE. I'M ASKING FOR THE BLACK AND BROWN AND WOMEN BUSINESS OWNERS THAT I MET WITH LAST NIGHT TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK AT a PUBLIC HEARING IF THEY CHOOSE SO. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THEY ARE ON THE ISSUE. I DON'T KNOW. I WANT TO KNOW, THOUGH. AND I WANT ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TIME. ALL THE ENGAGEMENT I HAVE HAD FROM PEOPLE THIS WEEK IN THE LAST WEEK AND A HALF IS JUST ABOUT A PUBLIC HEARING. WE DESERVE -- THE PEOPLE OF MINNEAPOLIS DESERVE THAT. BUSINESS OWNERS, WORKERS, PEOPLE WHO VISIT. EVERYONE DESERVES TO BE HEARD. THAT IS ALL I'M ASKING FOR HERE. THERE SHOULD BE ZERO ARGUMENT OVER IF WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE OF MINNEAPOLIS OR NOT. JUST LIKE WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM THE ORGANIZERS AROUND HAVING IT, WE SHOULD HEAR -- THE MOST SUCCESSFUL BOARD OR COMMISSION WE HAVE THAT PEOPLE APPLY TO IN LARGE NUMBERS IS BECAUSE WE COMMUNICATE IT. IS BECAUSE WE PUT EFFORT INTO GETTING PEOPLE ORGANIZED AROUND THE ISSUE. AND SO WHY NOT START OUT? WE -- THE LAST BOARD AND COMMISSION THAT WE HAD AND HAD THE OVERWHELMING AMOUNT WAS BECAUSE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND WE ALLOWED FOR OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO HAVE a VOICE. LET'S DO THE SAME. PLEASE. I'M ASKING YOU ALL. LET'S JUST HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO SPEAK. THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR HERE. I'M NOT SAYING CHANGE YOUR POSITION. I'M NOT SAYING THAT ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE DONE DIFFERENTLY. WE HAVE A STACK OF AMENDMENTS BEFORE US THAT HAS BEEN SET AS COMMITTEE WORK FOR THIS WHOLE YEAR. SO LET'S JUST SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEING. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. [1:11:03] **Council Member Osman**: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I WAS GOING TO WAIT AND TALK ABOUT THIS ON MY MOTION THAT I'M BRINGING FORWARD, BUT I DO WANT TO -- I WANT TO TALK TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE. FIRST, THIS IS DEMOCRACY. WE HAVE THE RESTAURANTS ON THE BACK. AND WE HAVE THE LABOR UNION AT FRONT. AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING. AND I WAS ONE OF THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT STOOD ON THE STEPS OF THE CITY HALL THAT SUPPORTED AND CONTINUE TO REALLY RAISE THE VOICE OF HAVING EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEE COMING TOGETHER AND CREATING THIS LABOR STANDARDS BOARD. AND I WANTED TO EXPRESS AND SAY THAT LARGE EAST AFRICAN BUSINESS OWNERS EMPHASIZED THE NEED OF CONSENSUS BUILDING BETWEEN EMPLOYEE AND EMPLOYERS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER WHEN WE RECEIVE RECOMMENDATION, WE WANT THE RECOMMENDATION TO BE a GREAT RECOMMENDATION. I DON'T WANT, AS I UNDERSTAND, THERE IS LIKE a 15-VOTE AND PROBABLY NOT AND THAT IS WHY I AM HOPING THE 2/3 WILL HELP THE BETTER OUTCOME AND RECOMMENDATION FROM THAT WHICH WE RECEIVE. I REMEMBER THE PROCESS DURING THE RENT STABILIZATION AND THAT DID NOT GO WELL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THIS DOCUMENT IS MOVING FORWARD IT HAS a STRONG CREATION AND PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THE FOLKS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING AND WHICH IS THE EMPLOYERS AND WHICH IS THE EMPLOYEES AND ALSO ARE THE EXPERTISE WITH PEOPLE IN KNOWLEDGE AND LABOR, AND MEET AND TALK AND COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD, TO CREATE POLICY IN THE FUTURE FOR OUR WORKERS. AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD, SO I'M HOPING MY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND COLLEAGUES CAN SUPPORT THIS MOTION. THANK YOU. [1:13:45] **Council Member Koski**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE a COMMENT ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW SAID I WAS IMPLYING MOTIVE. I WAS SPEAKING THE TRUTH, AND I CAN SHOW YOU AND EVERYBODY HERE ON MY PHONE THAT THERE IS -- WELL, THEN WAS TWITTER, TWEET, AND IT SAYS TODAY I STOOD WITH COALITION OF LABOR UNIONS, COMMITTEE LEADERS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS TO HIGHLIGHT THE IMPACT OF a LOCAL LABOR STANDARD'S BOARD AROUND THIS IS FROM MAYOR JACOB FREY'S ACCOUNT, AND THE INDIVIDUALS I STATED ARE ALL IN THISPHOTO. I CAN SEE ALL OF US THERE. I AM ALSO GOING TO SEND EVERYONE IN a TEAMS LINK THAT THERE WAS a "STAR TRIBUNE" THAT SAYS CHAVEZ, CHUGHTAI KOSKI PALMISANO PAYNE, RAINVILLE, VETAW AND WONSLEY ATTENDED IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL. AND I WILL SEND THAT VIA TEAMS. THANK YOU. [1:15:11] **Council Member Vetaw**: CAN I RESPOND PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW STOOD ON THE STEPS OF CITY HALL IN SUPPORT OF WORKERS. HOWEVER SOMEONE HAD -- WE HAD a HUGE RALLY IN SUPPORT OF WORKERS. HOWEVER SOMEONE USED THAT PHOTO, YOU CAN ASK ANY ADVOCATE FOR a LABOR STANDARDS BOARD, I HAVE NEVER, EVER TAKEN a POSITION ON THE LABOR STANDARDS BOARD. IF THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI, OR ANYONE ELSE USE THE PHOTO WITH ME IN IT, YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA. YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD ME SAY IT. [1:15:47] **Council President Payne**: LET'S MOVE ON. [1:15:47] **Council Member Vetaw**: -- IN SUPPORT OF WORKER, EVERY DAY, ALL DAY, COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI. THAT'S WHAT I SUPPORT. [1:15:47] **Council Member Chavez**: THANK YOU. I DON'T SUPPORT a DELAY. THIS IS AN ADVISORY BOARD. I WILL KEEP MENTIONING THIS. AN ADVISORY BOARD. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DRAMA, THE PERFORMANCE FROM BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, BIG BUSINESS, CORPORATIONS, THAT ARE FRUSTRATED ABOUT AN ADVISORY BOARD AS IF THE WORLD IS GOING TO FALL APART. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY TO OUR RESIDENTS THAT WE SUPPORT WORKERS. THIS IS PRO WORKER OR NOT, PERIOD -- DO WE SUPPORT OUR WORKERS OR NOT? THAT IS SOMETHING THIS WILL SIGNIFY TO RESIDENTS OF MINNEAPOLIS. MY MOTHER HAD TO WORK THREE FRICKING JOBS -- THREE FRICKING JOBS -- TO BARELY AFFORD RENT, TO BARELY BE ABLE TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE. TO BARELY BE ABLE TO LIVE HER LIFE AND SUPPORT US AS HER CHILDREN. THREE JOBS TO BARELY MAKE IT BY IN THIS CITY. GROWING UP MY ENTIRE LIFE. SO I CAN SHARE a ROOM WITH MY BROTHER, MY WHOLE ADULT LIFE. AND I WAS VERY PROUD OF THAT. BUT SHE HAD TO WORK THREE FRICKING JOBS, MORE THAN 80 HOURS a WEEK, TO BARELY MAKE IT BY. AND WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT THOSE FOLKS DO NOT MATTER IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. THEY DO NOT DESERVE TO HAVE a VOICE AND SEAT AT THE TABLE. AN ADVISORY BOARD IS GOING TO GIVE THESE FOLKS, THESE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS, FOLKS IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS THAT MATTER AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE a SEAT AT THE TABLE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS CONTROVERSIAL TO HAVE AN ADVISORY BOARD THAT SAYS PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS WORKERS IN OUR CITY MATTER. I DON'T. I DON'T BELIEVE IT. I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. IT'S CORPORATIONS THAT RUN THIS CITY. IT'S CORPORATIONS THAT SCARE PEOPLE IN THIS BODY. IT'S CORPORATIONS THAT RUN CHECKS. IT'S CORPORATIONS THAT FEARMONGOR AND SCARE RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT WE SUPPORT WORKER. I SUPPORT WORKERS AND UBER AND LYFT DRIVERS AND INCREASING THE MINIMUM WAGE TO $25 AN HOUR AND I DO NOT NEED PERMISSION FROM CORPORATIONS TO DO THAT TODAY. BUT IF CORPORATIONS DO NOT BANT TO BE a PART OF THIS ADVISORY BOARD, BY ALL MEANS, WHATEVER. I'LL BRING THE POLICY FORWARD WITHOUT YOUR INPUT. YOU AND I SHOULD BE THANKFUL THAT YOU'RE GETTING a SEAT AT THE TABLE TO INFLUENCE POLICY IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. YOU AND I SHOULD BE THANKFUL THAT YOU'RE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT WITH WORKERS TO DEVELOP POLICY THAT IS FISCALLY SOUND AND TO IMPROVE LIVES OF RESIDENTS. I'M SORRY. I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT a DELAY. I WISH IT WAS STRONGER. I EVEN WISH IT WAS STRONGER BECAUSE WORKERS IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS MATTER AND I AM DOING THAT FOR PEOPLE LIKE MY MOM WHO HAD TO WORK THREE JOBS TO BARELY MAKE IT BY IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS WHERE SHE HAD RESTAURANTS AND CORPORATIONS LIKE MCDONALD'S, WHICH I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE CONTINUE THAT MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES TO BEGIN WITH, BUT CORPORATIONS LIKE MCDONALD'S, CORPORATIONS LIKE MCDONALD'S, AND OTHER BUSINESSES TREATING HER HORRENDOUSLY. WHEN YOU HAD THESE BUSINESSES PARTICULARLY AND MY OWN FAMILY MEMBERS AND IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO EXPERIENCED RACIST COMMENTS IN THEIR WORK PLACE AND NOTHING GETS DONE TO GET ADDRESSED. WHEN YOU HAVE THESE BUSINESSES STEAL PEOPLE'S WAGES AND NOTHING IS BEING DONE TO ADDRESS THAT BY THE EMPLOYER. WHEN YOU HAVE THESE BUSINESSES MISTREATING THESE WORKERS. I'M SORRY, I SUPPORT THIS ADVISORY BOARD PERIOD. I DO NOT SUPPORT a DELAY. LET'S GET THIS DONE AND MOVE ON TO ACTUALLY IMPROVING THE LIVES OF MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS. [1:19:53] **Council Member Palmisano**: MR. CHAIR, THE DETAILS HERE ARE IMPORTANT AS IT IS WITH ANY POLICY, AND I KNOW WE ALL TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY SERIOUSLY. I SUPPORT a BALANCED BOARD, AND MAYBE WHAT I SEE AS a BALANCED LABOR STANDARDS BOARD IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU ALL SEE AS a BALANCED LABOR STANDARDS BOARD. THE ELEMENTS HERE THAT I SEE THAT I HAVE HEARD ADD MORE BUREAUCRACY, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. IT SAYS HERE'S a PLACE FOR YOU. HERE'S a TABLE. DON'T COME TO ACTUAL US AS PEOPLE IN ELECTED SEATS AT CITY COUNCIL. NO, GO THROUGH THIS OTHER BUREAUCRATIC PROCESS. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. I AM HEARING FROM LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS WHO ARE BIPOC AND SOME ARE MCDONALD'S BUSINESS OWNERS WHO ARE BIPOC AND THEY HAVE TOLD ME THEIR STORIES ON HELPING THEIR EMPLOYEES THROUGH COVID AND I HAVE HEARD FROM THEIR WORKERS SAYING THE SAME THING. AT COMMITTEE I ASKED ABOUT COST, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I GOT a FULL ANSWER ABOUT HOW MUCH THIS COSTS. THIS CANNOT HAPPEN WITHOUT a COST AND WITH THE DIFFERENT GROUP OF TABLES RUN BY CITY STAFF, BY I WAS ESSENTIALLY TOLD WE WILL USE THE BUDGET PROCESS. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME COMFORTABLE BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T SHARED YOUR TRADE-OFFS AND THE BUDGET AND WHAT YOU ARE REMOVING TO FUND THE WORK NEEDED TO STAND THIS BODY UP. YOU CAN'T ASK FOR a BRIEFING WHEN YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS UNTIL IT GOD ADDED TO AN AGENDA AFTER -- UNTIL IT GOT ADDED TO AN AGENDA AFTER AN AGENDA SETTING. I ASKED FOR a PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND I ASKED THE AUTHORS THAT AS SOON AS I SAW IT ON THE PUBLISHED AGENDA ABOUT 48 HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING ITSELF, AND THAT IS ALSO WHEN THE DETAILS OF THIS WERE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, MADE AVAILABLE TO SOME OF THE DIFFERENT ASSOCIATIONS THAT YOU SEE HERE TODAY. IT IS, FRANKLY, ABSURD TO THINK THAT I KNOW BEFORE AGENDA SETTING TO BE ABLE TO BRING SOMETHING AND PUT IT IN LIMS FOR a PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. AND THEN TO SAY THAT I WOULD NEED TO WRITE IT DOWN ON a PIECE OF PAPER TO DELAY FOR ONE CYCLE FOR a PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD? I HAVE MORE CONFIDENCE IN MY COLLEAGUES THAN THAT TO UNDERSTAND THAT MOTION ON FLOOR. I ALSO STOOD UP FOR WORKERS. I ALSO BELIEVE WE COULD EVOLVE OUR WORK PLACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO BE BETTER, ABSOLUTELY. BUT WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI CALLS OUT THE MAYOR OR OTHER COLLEAGUES, IT ALSO ASCRIBES MOTIVATION. MR. CHAIR, THAT'S a VIOLATION OF COUNCIL RULES AND THESE CALL OUTS ARE a GROSS MISUSE OF AN ELECTED POSITION. IT'S CALLED CAMPAIGNING FOR ANOTHER SEAT WHILE YOU'RE STILL IN YOUR CURRENT SEAT, AND IT IS WRONG. [1:23:04] **Council President Payne**: I AM GOING TO ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE MOTION TO DELAY THIS OR REFER THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. [1:23:04] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, NO. KOSKI AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY NAY. CASHMAN NO. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHAVEZ NO. VETAW AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, NO. PRESIDENT PAYNE, NAY. THERE ARE SIX AYES AND SIX NAYS. [1:23:52] **Council President Payne**: THAT MOTION FAILS. AND NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP THE UNDERLYING MOTION. AND I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. [1:23:52] **Council Member Osman**: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THERE IS MOTION ON -- [1:23:52] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: MR. PRESIDENT, BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH AMENDMENTS, WE DON'T HAVE a MOTION TO APPROVE THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD AND PULLED FROM THE ISSUE, SO WE SHOULD START WITH MAKING AN AFFIRMATIVE ISSUE TO APPROVE WHAT CAME OUT OF COMMITTEE, AND THEN IT CAN BE AMENDED. [1:24:20] **Vice President Chughtai**: MR. PRESIDENT, IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM 12. [1:24:20] **Council Member**: SECOND. [1:24:36] **Council President Payne**: OKAY. THAT ITEM HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED. NOW I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. [1:24:36] **Council Member Osman**: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I AM BRINGING FORWARD a MOTION THAT IS FRONT OF VIEW AND THIS WILL ADDRESS THE -- THE VOTING SIDE OF IT. WHICH IS CHANGES FROM THE MAJORITY TO 2/3. AND THE EAST AFRICAN BUSINESS OWNERS EMPHASIZED THE NEED OF CONSENSUS BUILDING BETWEEN EMPLOYEE AND EMPLOYERS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AS a COUNCIL MEMBER WHEN WE RECEIVE RECOMMENDATION, WE WANT THE RECOMMENDATION TO BE a GREAT RECOMMENDATION. I DON'T WANT, AS I UNDERSTAND, THERE IS LIKE a 15-VOTE AND PROBABLY NOT AND THAT IS WHY I AM HOPING THE 2/3 WILL HELP THE BETTER OUTCOME AND RECOMMENDATION FROM THAT WHICH WE RECEIVE. I REMEMBER THE PROCESS DURING THE RENT STABILIZATION AND THAT DID NOT GO WELL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THIS DOCUMENT IS MOVING FORWARD IT HAS a STRONG CREATION AND PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THE FOLKS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING AND WHICH IS THE EMPLOYERS AND WHICH IS THE EMPLOYEES AND ALSO ARE THE EXPERTISE WITH PEOPLE IN KNOWLEDGE AND LABOR, AND MEET AND TALK AND COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD, TO CREATE POLICY IN THE FUTURE FOR OUR WORKERS. AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD, SO I'M HOPING MY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND COLLEAGUES CAN SUPPORT THIS MOTION. THANK YOU. [1:26:49] **Council President Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN HAS MOVED TO AMEND THE UNDERLYING RESOLUTION THAT IS BEFORE YOU. IS THERE a SECOND ON THE MOTION? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. [1:26:49] **Council Member Cashman**: AWE THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN'S AMENDMENT HERE ACTUALLY HAS a LOT OF AMENDMENTS IN IT. SOME OF WHICH I SUPPORT AND ARE ACTUALLY REFLECTED IN ANOTHER AMENDMENT THAT I AM BRINGING FORWARD THAT I WORKED ON WITH THE CLERKS AND CITY ATTORNEY AND AUTHORS AND EMAILED OUT IN ADVANCE. WHILE I AM NOT SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT TODAY, I DO THINK THERE IS SOME PIECES OF WHAT YOU HAVE PUT FORWARD HERE THAT I THINK ARE REALLY GOOD. IT RELATES TO HOW THE SECTORAL WORK GROUP IS SOLICITING INPUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THE S SECTORAL WORKERS DO HAVE INFORMATION FROM BUSINESS OWNERS IN THAT SECTOR AND ADEQUATE INFORMATION. SO JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THAT PIECE. AND ALSO ON THE VOTING THRESHOLD, WE ACTUALLY SPENT a LOT OF TIME WITH THIS, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF CONVERSATION EARLIER THIS SUMMER AND DECIDED TO MAKE SURE THAT a MEMBER OF THE EMPLOYER, EMPLOYEE, AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER GROUP WOULD ALL HAVE TO VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE OF THE RECOMMENDATION TO PASS, SO THAT IS THE CHECK AND BALANCE WE PUT INTO THE POLICY TO ENSURE CONSENSUS. I BELIEVE THAT IS COVERED. THANK YOU. [1:28:26] **Council Member Palmisano**: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, FOR BRINGING SOME OF THESE FORWARD. I HAVE EXPREZZED MY COMPOSITION OF THE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER GROUP AND BHIE THEY ARE GIVEN THE AIM -- AND WHY THEY ARE GIVEN THE SAME AMOUNT OF SEATS AND ARE THE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS GETTING IN BETWEEN RELATIONS, WORKING UNION RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES. WHILE I HAVE a BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT PART SEVEN TO COLLECT IN-PERSON SURVEYS AND THE SECTOR BEING IDENTIFIED, THAT SEEMED LIKE a LOT OF WORK. AGAIN, ABOUT THE COST. I AM NOT SAYING THAT IT WOULDN'T BE WORTH IT TO HAVE PROFESSIONAL SURVEYING DONE. WHAT WOULD BE THE COST AND WHAT IS THE TRADE-OFF IN THE CITY BUDGET TO GET THIS STARTED? BUT GIVEN THE COMPOSITION OF THIS BOARD INCLUDING THE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, I DO THINK 2/3 OF THE FULL MEMBERSHIP IS a WISE MOTION. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THESE CHANGES THAT WILL MAKE THIS SLIGHTLY BETTER. [1:29:55] **Council Member Chowdhury**: AWE THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, FOR ENGAGING WITH THE AUTHORS AND BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING TO FIND a WAY THAT YOU FEEL IS BEST TO MAKE THIS WORK. HOWEVER, I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT TODAY SIMPLY FOR THE FACT THAT AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PUBLIC WITH a FORMALIZED LEGISLATIVE PROCESS WITH PLACES FOR PUBLIC INPUT ON ORDINANCES AND WE HAVE CHECKS AND BALANCE, YET WE DO NOT GOVERN WITH a 2/3 MAJORITY TO GET THINGS DONE HERE. WE REQUIRE a SIMPLE MAJORITY. I DON'T THINK IT'S LOGICAL TO HOLD AN ADVISORY BOARD TO THAT HIGHER STANDARD THAN US. AND THEN ALSO IN OUR DEMOCRACY, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING a LOT ABOUT DEMOCRACY TODAY, AS WE SHOULD, WHEN YOU'RE AT THE BALLOT BOX, AND YOU'RE VOTING FOR SOMEONE TO REPRESENT YOU, TO YIELD THAT POWER, THAT ALSO DOES NOT REQUIRE a 2/3 MAJORITY. THIS IS a SIMPLE MAJORITY. THEY WILL HAVE TO TAKE MULTIPLE VOTES. THE SECTORAL WORK GROUP WILL HAVE TO VOTE AS a WHOLE IN a SIMPLE MAJORITY WITH THE REQUIREMENT THAT BUSINESS, WORKER, MAYBE a CONSUMER, OR MAYBE THAT COMMUNITY STAKE HOLDER IS AN ACADEMIC OR REGULATORY BODY, AT LEAST ONE OF THEM HAS TO GO BACK AND THEN IT HAS TO GO BACK TO THE LARGER LABOR STANDARDS BOARD. THEN THEY HAVE TO VOTE IN a SIMPLE MAJORITY. THEN IT COMES TO US. DO WE WANT TO DO a NOTICE OF INTRODUCTION? YES, WE DO. NOTICE IT. GO THROUGH THE COMMUNITY PROCESS AROUND COMMITTEE VOTE AND THEN THIS COUNCIL WILL NEED TO VOTE. ANOTHER SIMPLE MAJORITY. IF IT GETS VETOED, THEN WE GET TO 2/3 MAJORITY. SO I THINK THIS IS -- I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO I a CHOOEF WHAT THE INTENT IS, WHICH IS CON SEN -- ACHIEVE WHAT THE INTENT IS WHICH IS CONSENSUS AND THAT IS WHY WE WORKED TOGETHER AS AUTHORS AND MADE THE COMPRISE AROUND HAVING EACH OF THE TRI-PARTIDE VOTE IN THE SEPARATE GROUP AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL AND INSURE THAT THE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS NEVER COME TO OUR BODY. WORKERS DESERVE TO HAVE a SAY. AND IN INSTITUTIONS OFTEN TIMES THEY DON'T GET ONE AND a FORMALIZED PLACE, AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. EQUAL SAY TO EVERY PARTY. [1:32:24] **Vice President Chughtai**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ALSO WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN FOR, YOU KNOW, ENGAGING WITH THE AUTHORS AND CONTINUING TO REMAIN IN CONVERSATION WITH US AS YOU ARE PUTTING TOGETHER THIS AMENDMENT. I REALLY SEE THE DESIRE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS COMING TO THE BODY ARE DRIVEN BY CONSENSUS, ARE STRONG, HAVE BUY-IN FROM DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS, FROM EMPLOYERS, FROM EMPLOYEES. AND FROM THE BROADER COMMUNITY. I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY WAS HIGHLIGHTING, THE REQUIREMENT THAT AT LEAST ONE EMPLOYER, AT LEAST ONE EMPLOYEE, AT LEAST ONE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER SERVING ON a SECTORAL WORK GROUP HAS TO CONSENT TO RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE THEY MAKE THEIR WAY TO THE COUNCIL BY WAY OF THE LABOR STANDARDS BOARD, THOSE ARE -- THAT'S THE TYPE OF THING THAT ENCOURAGES DIALOGUE, COLLABORATION, CONSENSUS BUILDING, AMONG THE THREE DIFFERENT PARTIES, RIGHT? AND IF PASSING RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAKING THEM TO COUNCIL REQUIRES AT LEAST ONE PERSON FROM EACH PARTY TO WORK TOGETHER, THAT DRIVES BETTER, BETTER CONSENSUS BUILDING. IT DRIVES BETTER POLICY OUTCOMES. AND WE CAN TRUST WHEN SOMETHING COMES TO US THAT IT INCLUDED VOICES OF ALL OF THE PARTIES AT THE TABLE. AND THEN I WOULD REALLY CONCUR WITH -- I THINK IT'S -- I THINK IT'S HYPOCRITICAL PERHAPS, WEIRD PERHAPS, FOR US TO HOLD AN ADVISORY BODY TOEN a -- TO AN ADVISORY BODY TO a HIGHER STANDARD THAN WE ARE HELD BY, THAN, LIKE, WE DO ANYTHING HERE ON THIS DAIS. AND SO I UNFORTUNATELY WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS TODAY, AND, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH US AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE NEXT STEPS. [1:33:45] **Council Member Osman**: I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE POINT THAT I THINK 2/3 MAKES SENSE. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. THE WAY COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT SAY THAT EACH GROUP HAVE TO HAVE a ONE PERSON, AND WHAT IF EMPLOYERS ALL GET TOGETHER AND SAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE. WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET a RESOLUTION. BUT THE 2/3 COULD PASS WITHOUT THE EMPLOYER'S INPUT SOMETIMES. IT'S 10 VOTES AND WE'RE BUILDING 15 THE WAY I UNDERSTAND, RIGHT. SO ANYWAY, THAT WAS MY INTENTION. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE GET RECOMMENDED THAT IS SOUND AND THAT HAS a LOT OF THOUGHTFULNESS BIND IT, YEAH, SO THAT IS WHAT I AM GETTING INTO. BUT THANK YOU. [1:35:47] **Council Member Palmisano**: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. a QUESTION. THERE'S MANY VOTES THAT WE TAKE EVEN TODAY THAT NEED a 2/3 MAJORITY VOTE, AND I THINK THERE'S a CATEGORY FOR THAT. AND I WAS CURIOUS IF OUR CITY CLERK OR MAYBE OUR CITY ATTORNEY COULD JUST BRIEFLY REMIND US WHAT VOTES WE TAKE THAT REQUIRE 2/3 VOTE. BECAUSE THERE'S a LOT OF THEM. [1:35:47] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: MR. PRESIDENT, THERE ARE -- THERE ARE TYPES OF ACTIONS THAT REQUIRE a HIGHER VOTE THRESHOLD BY THE COUNCIL, MANY OF THEM ARE 2/3 BUT NOT ALL OF THEM. TYPICALLY WHEN a HIGHER VOTE THRESHOLD IS REQUIRED, IT'S BECAUSE IT AFFECTS OR CAN IMPACT THE RIGHTS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BODY. SO GENERALLY, PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE SAYS ANY TIME THE RIGHTS OF MEMBERS COULD BE IMPACTED, THE VOTE THRESHOLD RISES. AND THE STANDARD IS USUALLY a 2/3 VOTE, THOUGH IT COULD BE HIGHER. FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO BY ORDINANCE AMEND THE CITY CHARTER, AS YOU KNOW, THAT REQUIRES 13, REQUIRES EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL TO BE IN SUPPORT OF IT, SO THAT IS a UNANIMOUS AFFIRMTY VOTE. TO RECONSIDER THE MAYOR'S VETO, SOMETHING THAT IS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, REQUIRES 2/3 VOTE OF THE ENTIRE BODY. AND SO THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HIGHER VOTE THRESHOLDS. THEY'RE USUALLY TIED TO RIGHTS OF THE MEMBERS. [1:37:46] **Council Member Palmisano**: SO MR. CHAIR, MY POINT IS THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE DO HERE THAT REQUIRE 2/3 MAJORITY VOTE. IT'S -- I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. BUT TO SAY IF WE WERE TO ADD IN ANOTHER 1/3 OF THIS BODY OF UNELECTED MEMBERS THAT AREN'T IN THESE THINGS LIKE LABOR NEGOTIATIONS, I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT EVERY VOTE EWITH TAKE TO BE a 2/3 -- WE TAKE TO BE a 2/3 MAJORITY VOTE BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE AREN'T REPRESENTING ANYBODY IN THAT NEGOTIATION. [1:37:46] **City Attorney Kristyn Anderson**: MR. CHAIR, MAY I JUST ADD? I THINK THE QUESTION -- THE QUESTION POSTED TO US. I LOOKED AT THE CITY COUNCIL'S OWN RULES. THERE IS AN APPENDIX AT THE END WITH a CHART OF REQUIRED VOTE TOTALS. I WISH THERE WAS AN EASY WAR FOR ME TO SEND THIS. a LOT WHEN IT COMES TO TECHNOLOGY, I APOLOGIZE, BUT AS THE CLERK NOTED, THERE ARE MANY VOTE TYPES THAT REQUIRE a 2/3 OR MORE VOTE THRESHOLD. ACCEPTANCE OF GIFTS TO MUNICIPALITIES, GRANTS, TO AMEND THE RULES OF THE CITY COUNCIL, CERTAIN ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, REZONINGS REQUIRE a 2/3 VOTE. FOR EXAMPLE, CHANGE THE GRADE OF a STREET. SO THE CHART GOES THROUGH EVERYTHING, AND SO I JUST -- FOR POINT OF INFORMATION FOR THE COUNCIL, IF YOU WANT TO REFERENCE THAT, IT IS AT THE VERY END OF THE COUNCIL RULES. [1:38:46] **Council Member Chavez**: CAN THE CITY ATTORNEY REMIND ME HOW MUCH -- WHAT WAS THE VOTE THRESHOLD FOR MINIMUM WAGE? SEVEN VOTES? ORDINANCE? [1:38:46] **City Attorney Kristyn Anderson**: SORRY, PRESIDENT PAYNE, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, YES, AN ORDINANCE VOTE WHEN IT GETS TO COUNCIL IS -- [1:38:46] **Council Member Chavez**: SURE. I KEEP HEARING 2/3 BEING THROWN AROUND AS IF THAT IS NORMAL PRACTICE HERE. MOST ORDINANCES HERE ARE SEVEN VOTES. IT IS AN ORDINANCE. I THINK THE GOAL OF THIS POLICY IS TO GET RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE LABOR STANDARDS BOARD TO THEN POSSIBLY ESTABLISH AN ORDINANCE THAT USUALLY REQUIRES SEVEN VOTES, a SIMPLE MAJORITY. MOST THINGS REQUIRE SEVEN VOTES THAT WE DO IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. [1:41:41] **Council President Payne**: JUST MATURITY. I PUT MYSELF IN QUEUE JUST TO ADD THE ROLES OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY, I THINK OUR CITY -- AND THE CLERK WILL PROBABLY -- YOU DON'T NEED TO CONFIRM THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT WE HAVE a LOT OF BOARD AND COMMISSIONS. IT IS NOT a NORMAL DEFAULT MODE FOR a LOCAL JURISDICTION TO OPERATE. MINNEAPOLIS HAS a LONG TRADITION OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, AND WE ENABLE THAT ENGAGEMENT THROUGH THE CITY BOARD AND COMMISSIONS. THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS THAT YOU HAVE ELECTED LEADERS WHO CAN PASS SOME OF THESE UNIQUE ORDINANCES. WE ARE a CHARTER CITY RATHER THAN a STATUTORY CITY, AND SO THE RULES WE LIVE BY IN THIS CITY ARE REALLY GROUNDED IN OUR CITY CHARTER. THAT'S WHAT AFFORDS US THE ABILITY TO SET MINIMUM WAGE, ESTABLISH BASIC WORKER STANDARDS, AND ANY OTHER ORDINANCE OR REGULATION THAT WE MIGHT PASS. THERE ARE ARGUMENTS TO JUST ABOLISH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT EWITH JUST DON'T NEED THEM. WE HAVE AN ELECTED BODY CALLED THE CITY COUNCIL TO BRING FORWARD ANY RECOMMENDATION, WHETHER IT'S AROUND MINIMUM WAGE, FAIR SCHEDULING, WAGE PROTECTION -- WE HAVE THE TOTAL AUTHORITY TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW WITH a SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE OF THIS BODY, SO I EELS ALSO ADD KIND OF SIMILAR TO COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI, I -- I WILL ALSO ADD I RAN a SMALL BUSINESS BEFORE I RAN FOR OFFICE. MY SMALL BUSINESS WORKED WITH THE CITY. I WAS a CONTRACTOR AT THE CITY. ONE OF MY FIRST PROJECTS WAS TO CREATE THE BUSINESS PORTAL, WHICH WAS a RESOURCE TO HELP ENTREPRENEURS NAVIGATE CITY PROCESS. AND WHEN I WAS WORKING AT THE STAFF LEVEL, I DIDN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE REGULATIONS. ALL I COULD DO IS HELP THOSE REGULATIONS BE MORE ACCESSIBLE, UNDERSTANDABLE, EASIER TO NAVIGATE THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WEB DESIGN IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE DID. AND NOW THAT I'M IN a POSITION WHERE I CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE REGULATIONS, I CAN UNIQUELY BY MY OWN ACCORD BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE AS a SMALL BUSINESS OWNER MYSELF LET ALONE THE CONVERSATIONS I HAVE WITH MY CONSTITUENTS, I CAN PROPOSE ANY NUMBER OF CHANGES TO OUR REGULATIONS, NOT JUST MORE REGULATIONS, BUT SIMPLER REGULATIONS, LESS REGULATIONS. I DON'T DO THAT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S WISE FOR ME TO SIT HERE AND THINK THAT I HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS. IT'S HOW ALL OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAVE EMERGED. AND WE HAVE a TOTAL OF, MR. CLERK, HOW MANY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN TOTAL? [1:41:41] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: 57. [1:41:41] **Council President Payne**: WE HAVE 57 BOARD AND COMMISSIONS, AND THEY ARE ALL FOES KUED ON VERY SPECIFIC POLICY AREAS WHERE -- FOES KUED ON VERY SPECIFIC POLICY AREAS WHERE YOU CAN BRING EXPERTS TO THE TABLE WHO CAN BRING FORWARD RECOMMENDATIONS. MOST DON'T HAVE a VOTE THRESH-TH THRESHOLD. SIMPLE VOTE? ALL RIGHT. THE POINT IS THAT WE ARE THE BODY THAT ENACTS LEGISLATION, NOT THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. AND SO REGARDLESS OF THE PROCESS BY WHICH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS GET TO OUR DESK, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH OUR OWN PERSONAL LIFE EXPERIENCE OR THROUGH a REALLY IMPACTFUL CONVERSATION WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS, OR FORMALLY THROUGH a BOARD AND COMMISSION, ULTIMATELY THAT AUTHORITY IS VESTED WITH US. AND SO I THINK THAT THIS DEBATE ABOUT 2/3 VERSUS SIMPLE MAJORITY IS KIND OF LOSING SIGHT OF WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS IN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. AND HOW THAT RESPONSIBILITY REMAINS WITH US. AND IN FACT, THIS IS a RESOLUTION RATHER THAN AN ORDINANCE LARGELY THROUGH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S ADVICE THAT WE CAN'T DELEGATE OUR AUTHORITY TO CREATE POLICY TO a BOARD OR COMMISSION. SO THERE WASN'T AS MUCH OF a PURPOSE OF CREATING AN ORDINANCE AROUND IT BECAUSE ALL THAT THE BOARD -- ALL THAT THIS BODY CAN DO IS SEND US a RECOMMENDATION FOR US TO CONSIDER, FOR US TO CONSIDER. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR a SIMPLE MAJORITY FOR US TO CONSIDER AN IDEA. NOT TO TAKE THAT IDEA UP, NOT TO PASS THATTED Y -- TAKE THAT IDEA UP, BUT IT MAY NOT BE ONE THAT CAN PASS THE SIMPLE MAJORITY OF THIS BODY. I WANT TO GROUND US IN THAT. WITH THAT, I SEE NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE. SO I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE OSMAN AMENDMENT. [1:43:39] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: THIS IS ON THE OSMAN AMENDMENT? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI, NAY. COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, NAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN NAY. COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE, AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, NO. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW, AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, NO. PRESIDENT PAYNE, NAY. THERE ARE FIVE AYES AND SEVEN NAYS. [1:44:30] **Council President Payne**: THAT AMENDMENT FAILS. WE ARE BACK TO THE UNDERLYING RESOLUTION. AND I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS. [1:44:30] **Council Member Jenkins**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. YOU KNOW, LET ME JUST START MY COMMENTS BY SAYING AS a MEMBER OF LOCAL SEIU LOCAL 284, I 100% SUPPORT WORKERS. I WANT TO SEE a LABOR STANDARDS BOARD THAT IS FAIR, THAT IS EQUITABLE, AND THAT WORKS. IN SUPPORT OF WORKERS. AND SO I WANT TO BRING FORWARD TWO AMENDMENTS, BUT WE CAN TAKE THEM ONE AT a TIME. THE FIRST ONE IS AN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE REPORTING OR OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE DEPARTMENT, RATHER, FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL RIGHTS TO THE OFFICE OF PUBLIC SERVICE. I THINK WE'VE HEARD FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL RIGHTS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE AT THIS TIME TO BE ABLE TO ADMINISTER THIS BODY IN THIS BODY OF WORK. AND SO I AM HOPING THAT WE CAN SHIFT THIS TO THE OFFICE OF PUBLIC SERVICE UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT IS STAFFED AND HAS THE EXPERTISE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES AND CONCERNS OF THE LABOR STANDARDS BOARD. [1:46:39] **Council President Payne**: COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS HAS MOVED AN AMENDMENT. IS THERE a SECOND? THAT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. I WILL RECOGNIZE VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [1:46:39] **Vice President Chughtai**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS AMENDMENT TO MOVE THE ADMINISTRATION OF THIS -- THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS LABOR STANDARDS BOARD FROM THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT TO THE OFFICE OF PUBLIC SERVICE. I WOULD JUST SAY, FIRST, THAT THERE ARE -- THERE ARE NO DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION RIGHT NOW THAT ARE STAFFED TO -- THAT HAVE a STAFF MEMBER DESIGNATED TO THEM TO MANAGE a LABOR STANDARDS BOARD. NO MATTER WHERE IT GOES WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION, AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT THEN NEEDS TO COME ALONG WITH -- THAT NEEDS TO COME ALONG WITH RESOURCES TO IMPLEMENTS AND STAFF SUCH, SUCH a BOARD. THE REALITY IS THAT THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT ARE THE EXPERTS IN LABOR STANDARDS WITHIN OUR ENTERPRISE, AND THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN EVERY LABOR STANDARD THAT THE CITY HAS CREATED IN RECENT YEARS, THE ONES THAT WE IN PARTICULAR CELEBRATE AND ARE THE LEADERS IN OUR STATE IN ENACTING. WE WANT THE EXPERTS OF, OF LABOR STANDARDS TO BE THE ONES THAT HAVE THE CLOSEST RELATIONSHIP TO SUPPORTING THIS BODY OF WORK. AND THEN I WOULD ALSO ADDITIONALLY ADD THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT IS a DEPARTMENT THAT WORKERS TRUST. THE LABOR STANDARDS ENFORCEMENT DIVISION WITHIN THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT IS ONE THAT WORKERS TRUST. AND WE -- AND THAT TRUST HAS BEEN BUILT OVER YEARS. IF WE WANT PARTICIPATION FROM LOW AGE WORKERS WHO HAVE THE HARDEST TIME ACCESSING GOVERNMENT -- THAT'S JUST a FACT, RIGHT? OF THE STAKEHOLDERS WE'RE DEFINING, a LOW WAGE WORKER HAS a FAR HARDER TIME ACCESSING THIS SORT OF BUREAUCRATIC SYSTEM THAN WHO WORKS FOR a REGULATORY AGENCY. WE SHOULD BE MOVING -- WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS, THIS BOARD IN, WITHIN THIS DEPARTMENT. SO APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT BEHIND WANTING TO MOVE IT UP TO THE OFFICE OF PUBLIC SERVICE, WHICH ALSO, BY THE WAY, HAPPENS TO BE a NEWER DEPARTMENT, HAS a SMALLER STAFF, BUT -- BUT IT IS, I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THIS REMAINS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CIVIL RIGHTS. [1:49:10] **Council Member Palmisano**: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. BASED ON WHAT I JUST HEARD, ISN'T CPED WITHIN THE OFFICE OF PUBLIC SERVICE? YES. I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I MENTIONED THIS IN THE COMMITTEE. I THINK THIS STANDARD FROM THE AUTHORS IS PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I HEARD IN COMMITTEE. CIVIL RIGHTS HAVE ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY. THEY INVESTIGATE WAWAGE THEFT, VIOLATIONS OF OUR SICK AND SAFE TIME, VIOLATIONS OF OUR WAGE, OR MINIMUM WAGE LAWS. I KNOW, I CREATED SOME OF THESE ORDINANCES. THERE ARE NO ECONOMIC ANALYSTS IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT. THEY'RE NOT a CREATIVE BODY OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LIKE CPED IS. FOR THAT REASON, I AM VERY SURE THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS SHOULD SIT WITHIN CPED AND SO THE OFFICE OF PUBLIC SERVICE IS AN UMBRELLA ORGANIZATION FOR SUCH a THING. AND THIS FEELS RIGHT TO ME. THANK YOU. [1:50:27] **Council President Payne**: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE JENKINS AMENDMENT. [1:50:27] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON. NO. COUNCILMEMBER KOSKI. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. AYE. CASHMAN. NAY. CHAVEZ. NO. VETAW. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. NO. PRESIDENT PAYNE. NO. THERE ARE SIX AYES AND SIX NOES. [1:51:19] **Council President Payne**: THAT FAILS AND WE'LL RETURN BACK TO THE UNDERLYING RESOLUTION. I BELIEVE COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS HAS a SECOND AMENDMENT. COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? [1:51:19] **Council Member Jenkins**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANT TO BRING FORWARD AN AMENDMENT, AGAIN, THAT I HOPE CAN STRENGTHEN THIS RESOLUTION TODAY. I REALLY WISH MY COLLEAGUES WOULD HAVE SENT THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE SO WE CAN DO THIS REALLY IMPORTANT WORK IN COMMITTEE INSTEAD OF DOING IT AT THE CITY COUNCIL LEVEL. BUT HERE WE ARE. SO I'M BRINGING AN AMENDMENT, I THINK CAN ADD a LITTLE MORE FAIRNESS AND a LITTLE MORE TRUST INTO THIS PROCESS FOR THE MANY, MANY SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE OWNED BY WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR, WHO I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH, TALKING TO, AND LITERALLY EVERY TIME I'VE MET WITH THE PROPONENTS OF THIS AMENDMENT, MULTIPLE TIMES, EACH TIME IT WAS a CONCEPT I SUPPORT. AND SUPPORTED THE CONCEPT IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. HOWEVER, THERE WAS NEVER ANY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE UNTIL, I THINK, TWO FRIDAYS AGO, WHEN I RECEIVED THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE. AND SO I THINK THAT IF WE CAN CHANGE THE MAKE UP OF THIS BODY TO HAVE a 10-MEMBER BODY THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE EMPLOYEES AND THE EMPLOYERS. I THINK WOULD MAKE a MUCH BETTER SCENARIO FOR THIS BODY TO BE EFFECTIVE, TO BE TRUSTED, AND TO BRING FORWARD RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL IN a FAIR AND EQUITABLE WAY. THANK YOU. [1:53:49] **Council President Payne**: COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS HAS MOVED THIS AMENDMENT. IS THERE a SECOND. SECOND. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. [1:53:49] **Council Member Chavez**: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. IT WASN'T THAT THERE WAS a REQUEST TO SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE. WE GOT THIS LITERALLY AFTER, LIKE, WHAT THE SCHEDULE TIME FOR SCHEDULE WAS TO START. WE GOT THIS LITERALLY AFTER 9:30. I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT. SECOND, I HAVE a QUESTION IF COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS YIELD HER QUESTION WHY SHE'S STRIKING SEAT SIX. JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHAT IT SAYS, a REPRESENTATIVE OF EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY, INCLUDING LOW-WAGE EMPLOYEES, AND/OR EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTING THE WORKPLACE INTERESTS OF LOW-WAGE EMPLOYEES. [1:55:22] **Council Member Jenkins**: SO THE AMENDMENT REQUIRES LOW-WAGE EMPLOYEES AND EMPLOYERS TO BE AT THE TABLE. SO I'M NOT SURE IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. [1:55:22] **Council Member Chavez**: THERE'S a STRIKE THROUGH OF SEAT SIX THAT SAYS, AND I'LL REPEAT AGAIN, "A REPRESENTATIVE OF EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY, INCLUDING LOW-WAGE EMPLOYEES AND/OR EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTING WORKPLACE INTEREST OF LOW WAGE EMPLOYEES." YOU'RE STRIKING. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE REASON BEHIND THAT. THAT'S IT. YOU'RE BRINGING FORWARD AN AMENDMENT. I'M ASKING a QUESTION ON THE REASONING. IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, THAT'S OKAY. I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT. [1:56:16] **Council Member Jenkins**: AGAIN, THIS IS WORK THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IN COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THESE FRAUGHT DISCUSSIONS. BUT THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT ELIMINATE LOW-WAGE WORKERS FROM BEING a PART OF THIS BODY. [1:56:59] **Council Member Chavez**: IT DOES ELIMINATE a POSITION AND I'LL REPEAT IT. "A REPRESENTATIVE OF EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY, WHICH INCLUDES LOW-WAGE EMPLOYEES AND/OR EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTING THE WORKPLACE INTERESTS OF LOW-WAGE WORKERS, AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF WORKING PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS." AND YOU'RE STRIKING THAT. AND I STILL DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT. BUT, AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT. THAT'S TOTALLY OKAY. I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT. I SUPPORT WORKING PEOPLE. [1:56:59] **Council Member Jenkins**: AS DO I, COUNCILMEMBER. [1:56:59] **Council President Payne**: LET'S MOVE ON TO COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. [1:56:59] **Council Member Chowdhury**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS, JUST FOR ENGAGING WITH THIS RESOLUTION. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING SOME WORK FORWARD HERE TODAY. YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN SAY IT ALL DAY LONG. WE DON'T WANT TO DO COMMITTEE WORK IN COUNCIL. HOWEVER, THIS .CO COUNCIL HAS BN DOING THAT AND COUNCILS PAST DO THAT, AS WELL. THERE'S PUBLIC RECORDINGS AND MEETINGS OF THAT I'M GETTING FLASHBACKS WHEN WE DID THE WORK ON $15 ON CIGARETTES. BUT WE GOT THAT WORK DONE. GOT THAT WORK DONE. THAT'S PART OF WHY WE HAVE THIS MEETING TOGETHER. I'LL JUST START OFF BY SAYING, WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT, WHICH IS IT SEEMS TO BE REMOVING THE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER SEATS, I THINK THE POINT THAT COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ WAS MAKING, IS THAT THERE WAS a LOT OF INTENTION IN CRAFTING THE SEATS SPECIFICALLY TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF EMPLOYEES. BECAUSE WE REALIZED THAT THERE'S NOT a ONE-SIZE-FIT-ALL VOICE FOR EMPLOYEES. RIGHT. LOW-WAGE EMPLOYEES IS a TYPE OF SPECIFICITY THAT WE PUT IN TO THIS RESOLUTION. a REPRESENTATIVE OF UNIONIZED EMPLOYEES WAS a TYPE OF EMPLOYEE THAT WE PUT IN. a TYPE OF WORKER. REPRESENTATIVE OF NONUNIONIZED EMPLOYEES, NONUNIONIZED WORKERS, WE KNOW THEIR EXPERIENCES ARE DIFFERENT, AND THEIR EXPERIENCES ARE DIFFERENT ACROSS SECTORS. THAT'S WHY WE GET SECTOR SPECIFIC. SO WE DON'T HAVE ONE-SIZE-FIT-ALL POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE BRING EXPERTS TOGETHER. I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS TODAY. I THINK GETTING RID OF THE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER SEAT, UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THAT'S a MISTAKE. WE WANT TO HAVE THE INPUT OF COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND SECTORIAL WORK GROUPS. I THINK IT'S a MISS SAYING WE DON'T WANT THE INPUT OF CONSUMERS. LIKE DOWNTOWN RESIDENT OFFICE WORKERS, PARENTS, IF WE'RE LOOKING a THE THE CHILD CARE SECTOR, REGULATORS, LIKE, THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND INDUSTRY FROM THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. THAT CAN BE BROUGHT INTO THE FOLD. AND THEN, ALSO, ACADEMICS THAT ALSO CAN BE BROUGHT INTO THE FOLD. RIGHT. WE HAVE R1 UNIVERSITY, RESEARCH 1 UNIVERSITY IN OUR OWN CITY. THAT I THINK WOULD BE a REALLY IMPORTANT VOICE. THIS GROUP HAS THE ABILITY TO BE MORE NEUTRAL TO ENSURE THAT THE BOARD IS NOT JUST CONSISTENTLY DEADLOCKED AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS ENSURE THAT WHAT IS BEING EXPLORED CONSIDERS AND CAN GIVE INPUT ON THE IMPACTS OF MINNEAPOLIS BROADLY. THE EXAMPLE OF THE WORKERS COMPENSATION ADVISORY COUNCIL IS FLAWED. IT COULDN'T EVEN AGREE ON a RECOMMENDATION FOR a PRESUMPTIVE ELIGIBILITY FOR COVID. FOR THOSE IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH OTHERS DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC. AND I THINK THAT IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE TO SAY THAT HAVING a THIRD ASPECT TO THE STRUCTURE ENCOURAGES CONSENSUS. AND YOU CAN'T, LIKE, IN THE REAL WORLD, RIGHT, LIKE a WORKPLACE IS NOT JUST THE EMPLOYEE AND THE EMPLOYER. RIGHT. THERE'S a CONSUMER. THERE'S EXPERTS THAT ARE STUDYING THE WORK FORCE AND ITS ECONOMIC IMPACTS EVERY DAY. AND RIGHT NOW IN THE UNITED STATES, WE'RE EXPERIENCING VERY LARGE MARKET SHIFTS. THINGS ARE CHANGING RAPIDLY AND QUICKLY OVER THE YEARS THAT ARE IMPACTING WORKERS DAILY. SO HAVING THAT THIRD ASPECT, I THINK, IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS BOARD ACTUALLY DOES THOUGHTFUL CONSENSUS BUILDING WORK. [1:59:21] **Council Member Palmisano**: MR. CHAIR, AND MY COLLEAGUES WHAT WAS BEING ASKED IS TO WHY IT WAS TAKEN OUT IS UP TOP ON PAGE TWO. THE SECOND PAGE OF THIS AMENDMENT. IT TALKS ABOUT UP ON THE VERY TOP. IT MIRRORS BARGAINING TABLES AND IT ALSO INCLUDES ALL OF THE LANGUAGE ABOUT LOW-WAGE WORKERS. WHAT I SEE THIS AS IS a SHIFT FROM THE BALANCE THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT BACK IN COMMITTEE, AND NOW HERE, ABOUT TAKING THIS DOWN TO AN EVEN MORE LIKE a BARGAINING TABLE WITH EMPLOYEES AND EMPLOYERS. THE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS ARE GREAT AT THE TABLES PART OF THE LABOR STANDARDS BOARD. THIS MAKES THAT LANGUAGE MORE CLEAR. I'M NOT SURE WHY ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES SEEM TO INSINUATE OR, DARE I SAY, ASCRIBE MOTIVATION TO COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS, BUT THAT COULDN'T BE MORE FALSE. AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT BEING CALLED OUT WHEN IT HAPPENS, MR. CHAIR. [2:02:11] **Council President Payne**: ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS ASCRIBING MOTIVATIONS. I'M GETTING CALLED OUT BY SEVERAL FOLKS FOR CHAIRING THIS MEETING. AND SPEAK TO THAT ITEM. I WANT TO JUST MAKE THIS IMPORTANT DISTINCTION BETWEEN MAKING STATEMENTS OF FACT AND ASCRIBING MOTIVATIONS. IT IS a STATEMENT OF FACT THAT THE SEAT SIX IS STRIKE THROUGH HERE. IT'S a STATEMENT OF FACT THAT a MEMBER OF US STOOD ON STEPS AND THERE'S a DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE STATEMENTS OF FACT AND WHY FACT EXISTS. AND SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION. COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. [2:02:54] **Council Member Vetaw**: IT IS a STATEMENT OF FACT THAT I SAID ON STEP T -- STOOD N STEPS. IT'S NOT a STATEMENT OF FACT THAT I STOOD ON STEPS AND SUPPORT OF a LABOR STANDARDS BOARD. COUNCILMEMBER KOSKI REFERRED TO a TWEET THAT I MAYOR PUT OUT. NOT COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. AND THE MAYOR DIDN'T EVEN SAY HE SUPPORTED a LABOR STANDARDS BOARD. HE SAID "POTENTIAL" OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S MY FACT. SECONDLY, WHAT I'VE GOT IN QUEUE FOR IS, I AM GROWING TIRED, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, OF HOW YOU ALLOW BLACK WOMEN TO BE TREATED ON THIS COUNCIL. YOU ARE SO -- IT'S LIKE IN YOUR NATURE TO CALL ME OUT FOR ASCRIBING MOTIVES WHEN BLACK WOMEN GET TALKED DOWN TO. WHEN MOTIVES ARE ASCRIBED TOWARD US. WHEN WE WANT TO SPEAK UP, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES, YOU CANNOT CONTROL YOURSELF FROM TRYING TO STOP AND CONTROL WHAT WE SAY OUT OF OUR MOUTHS. WHAT WE JUST ALL WITNESSED, I THINK SOMETIMES YOU MAY FORGET THAT THIS IS ON CAMERA. WHAT WE ALL JUST WITNESSED WAS COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS BEING TALKED DOWN TO BECAUSE OF HER POSITION ON HER AMENDMENT. YOU SAID ZERO! NOTHING! YOU ACTUALLY JUST CAME BACK AND SAID THAT IF IT'S FACTUAL, IT'S OKAY FOR PEOPLE TO SAY SOMETHING. WHAT I'M SAYING IS FACTUAL, TOO. WHEN YOU STOP ME, IT'S FACTS TO ME. THIS HAS GOT TO END. THE WAY YOU ALLOW IN YOUR LEADERSHIP POSITION FOR BLACK WOMEN TO BE TREATED HERE IS DISGUSTING. I'M SICK OF LISTENING TO IT. I'M SICK OF BEING TREATED SECOND-CLASS TO YOUR FRIENDS, TO PEOPLE WHO YOU THINK SHOULD HAVE a VOICE ABOVE ME. IT NEEDS TO END. IT'S DISGUSTING. I'M SICK OF IT. AND I'VE TALKED TO YOU IN PRIVATE ABOUT IT. I'VE SENT YOU E-MAILS. I've TALKED TO YOU. I'VE TRIED TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN. THE ONLY WAY LEFT IN THIS IS TO PUBLICLY TALK ABOUT HOW YOU ALLOW BLACK WOMEN TO BE TREATED ON THIS COUNCIL UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP. COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS WAS THE PRESIDENT BEFORE. NEVER HAPPENED. EVERYBODY GOT TREATED FAIRLY. YOU ARE NOT FAIR. YOU TREAT BLACK WOMEN DIFFERENTLY. [2:05:22] **Council President Payne**: COUNCILMEMBER VETAW, I HAVE, FRANKLY, ALLOWED YOU TO SPEAK MUCH MORE FULLY THAN I WOULD OTHERWISE WOULD BECAUSE I'M VERY EXTRA SENSITIVE TO THAT FACT. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT. BE DIFFERENT. BE BETTER. I'M SICK OF IT. [2:05:22] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: MR. PRESIDENT, -- I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT MAYBE I OFFER SOME FEEDBACK TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL TO ALL MEMBERS. I'M QUOTING HERE FROM OUR PARLIAMENTY AUTHORITY. THE QUESTION OF DECORUM IS REALLY ABOUT RESPECTING THE BODY AS a WHOLE. AND EVERY MEMBER HAS a DUTY TO UPHOLD THE RIGHTS OF ALL OTHER MEMBERS. THAT'S NOT JUST THE SINGULAR RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PRESIDENT OR THE CHAIR. BASED ON WHETHER THIS IS COUNCIL OR COMMITTEE. ALL MEMBERS OF THE BODY ARE EXPECTED TO UPHOLD THE RIGHTS OF ALL OF THE MEMBERS. AND TO HELP ENFORCE THE RULES AND DECORUM. AND DURING DEBATE, OR DISCUSSION, MEMBERS MUST REFRAIN FROM ATTACKING OR ASCRIBING MOTIVES TO OTHERS. HERE IS WHAT THE BOOK SAYS, "WHEN A QUESTION IS PENDING, a MEMBER CAN CONDEMN THE NATURE OR THE POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES OF a PROPOSED MEASURE IN STRONG TERMS. BUT MUST AVOID PERSONALITIES AND, UNDER NO S CIRCUMSTANCESES, ATTK THE MOTIVES ANOTHER MEMBER." STATEMENT STARTING WITH "THIS IS MY PERSPECTIVE, MY OPINION, HOW I INTERPRET THIS IS GREAT." THE MOMENT YOU INVOKE ANOTHER PERSON OR THE MAYOR, WE ARE PROBABLY IN THE GRAY ZONE OF ADESCRIBING MOTIVE. THE EASIEST WAY TO STAY OUT OF THAT ZONE AND MINIMIZE THESE ALLEGATIONS OR CHALLENGES OR PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE, IS TO SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. DON'T INVOKE SOMEONE ELSE'S NAME. DON'T MENTION SOMEONE ELSE. AND USE SORT OF THOSE "I" STATEMENTS. THIS IS WHAT I FEEL. THIS IS MY MOTION. AND NOT GET INTO "YOU SAID, YOU DID, YOU DID," YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE GOING TO ALWAYS, I THINK, PUT THIS BODY IN AN AWKWARD POSITION. AND YOU, ESPECIALLY, MR. PRESIDENT, I FEEL FOR YOU IN THIS POSITION OF TRYING TO PRESIDE AND OFFICIATE OVER a BODY. THESE ARE STRONG ISSUES. THEY'RE IMPORTANT ISSUES. THEY ARE WORTHY OF DEBATE AND DISCUSSION IN FULL. THEY DESERVE THE RESPECT OF EVERY MEMBER AND RESPECT THE COMMUNITY YOU REPRESENT. I WOULD ASK EACH OF YOU TO REMEMBER YOU'RE PUT HERE BY VOTERS. BY THE ELECTORATE, TO REPRESENT THEM. TO REPRESENT THEIR VOICES AND INTERESTS. IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO ALWAYS AGREE. IT MEANS YOU HAVE TO RESPECT EACH OTHER IN DEBATE JUST LIKE YOU RESPECT YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND YOU RESPECT EVERY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY AND ALL SEGMENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY MADE UP OF MANY DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. SO WOULD PROVIDE THAT ADVICE. [2:08:01] **Council Member Vetaw**: THAT MEANS BE a LEADER. TO EVERYBODY. [2:08:01] **Council President Payne**: LET'S MOVE ON. COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. [2:08:01] **Council Member Cashman**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SPEAKING TO THE AMENDMENT IN FRONT OF US, I DISAGREE THAT WE SHOULD BE CREATING OR MIMICKING a BARGAINING TABLE WITH EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES. THAT IS NOT THE GOAL HERE. SO HAVING THAT THIRD PARTY, THAT INCLUDES CONSUMERS, CONSUMERS ADVOCACY, NONPROFITS, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS IS BETTER FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL COME OUT OF THIS BOARD. JUST SPEAKING FROM THE INDUSTRIES THAT I HEAR a MOST ABOUT CONDO INDUSTRY, CHILD CARE INDUSTRY, I THINK THAT THE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS OF CONDOS COULD SIT ON THAT SECTORORIAL BOARD OR THE PARENTS AT a CHILD CARE CENTER COULD SERVE ON THE BOARD AND IT WOULD IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS BROUGHT FORWARD. I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT. [2:09:03] **Council Member Jenkins**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS AMENDMENT SIMPLY TRIES TO REALLY BRING FORWARD THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DEEPLY ENGAGED IN THESE ISSUES. THE EMPLOYEES AND THE EMPLOYERS. IT STRIKES ALL OF THE DESIGNATED SEATS, AND SUBSEQUENTLY, LOW-INCOME WORKERS CAN BE APPOINTED THIS BODY. THERE IS NO EXCLUSION OF WHO THOSE REPRESENTATIVES CAN BE. TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE STRIKE THROUGH ELIMINATES LOW WAGE WORKERS TO BE INVOLVED IN THE BODY, I THINK, IS a MISSTATEMENT. AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE ABSOLUTELY HAVE ACCESS TO HAVING a SEAT ON THIS BODY. [2:10:29] **Council Member Chavez**: I JUST LITERALLY READ WHAT WAS ON THE AMENDMENT. SO I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT WHAT I READ FOUR TIMES IS LITERALLY WHAT THE AMENDMENT SAYS. IT'S NOT a MISS STATEMENT. I READ OFF THE PAGE. [2:10:29] **Council Member Chowdhury**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I LIKE POLICY DEBATE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD. WE SHOULD DEBATE THE POLICY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO AGREE AND THAT'S OKAY. BUT I THINK DEBATING POLICY AS a BODY TOGETHER, THAT'S WHAT OUR CITY WANTS TO SEE. IN THE SPIRIT OF DEBATE, I'LL SAY I HEAR YOUR POINT, COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS. HOWEVER, I DO THINK IT IS a STEP IN INCLUSION TO CARVE OUT a ROLE FOR a SPECIFIED GROUP THAT OFTENTIMES GETS OVERLOOKED LIKE I THINK ITst a PART OF EQUITY TO SAY LOW WAGE EMPLOYEE. THAT'S WHY IT MATTERS. I LIKE THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT EXIST. THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE POLICY I GET WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, AND I GET IT'S COMING FROM a GOOD PLACE, BUT FROM a POLICY PERSPECTIVE, I JUST DISAGREE WITH IT. [2:11:28] **Council President Payne**: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE SECOND JENKINS AMENDMENT. [2:11:28] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON. NO. KOSKI. NO. JENKINS. AYE. PALMISANO. AYE. CHOWDHURY. NO. CASHMAN. NO. OSMAN. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. CHAVEZ. NO. VETAW. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. NO. PRESIDENT PAYNE. O. THERE ARE FIVE AYES AND SEVEN NOES. [2:12:00] **Council President Payne**: THAT AMENDMENT FAILS. NEXT WE ARE BACK TON THE UNDERLYING RESOLUTION. I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN. [2:12:00] **Council Member Osman**: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT a PERFECT DOCUMENT. AS YOU CAN TELL, OUR VOTES ARE DIVIDED. I THINK THE BEST OPTION TO DELAY IT. I HAVE MY CONCERN WITH HOW SOME OF THE SMALL-OWNED MIRE MINOR MINORITYS HAVE EXPRESSED WHAT THIS IS. I WANT TO STAND FOR WORKERS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WORKERS HAVE a TABLE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WORKERS HAVE a VOICE. THERE ARE a LOT OF WORKERS IN MY COMMUNITY, MINORITY COMMUNITY , IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY THAT WORK IN THE HOSPITALITY. FOR THEM HAVING a VOICE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. AND I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ORGANIZERS OF THE UNIONS MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE ENGAGING THESE BUSINESSES. MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE IMPORTANT VOICE IN THAT. AT THE SAME TIME, I DO NOT WANT TO LEAVE EMPLOYERS. THERE ARE a LOT OF SMALL-OWNED BUSINESSES THAT EMPLOY MANY FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THEY'RE TRYING TO SURVIVE. THEY WENT THROUGH a LAST FOUR YEARS. THEY WENT THROUGH CIVIL UNREST, ECONOMIC, EPIDEMIC, YOU NAME IT. THE SMALL BUSINESSES ALSO DESERVE THE RESPECT AND ALSO HAVE a POSITION ON THE TABLE. SO WITH MY DECISION TODAY, I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THAT LINE MOTION. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT a PERFECT DOCUMENT, BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE. AND COME TOGETHER AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CREATING a PERFECT WORK GROUP THAT WILL GIVE US ADVICE. IF IT'S DIVIDED LIKE THIS, WHEN WE CREATE THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT WHATEVER WILL BE PERFECT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I STAND FOR WORKERS. I WILL SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING MOTION ON THIS, BUT IT'S NOT PERFECT. THANK YOU. [2:14:07] **Council Member Cashman**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. AND APOLOGIES TO ALL. WE HAVE ONE MORE AMENDMENT TO TAKE UP. THIS AMENDMENT IT DOES ADD UNDER THE "DUTIES OF a SECTORIAL WORK GROUP" a CITY BUSINESS TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PROVIDER WILL CONDUCT IN-PERSON AND ONLINE SURVEY OF EMPLOYERS IN THE APPLICABLE SECTOR BEING STUDIED. BRINGING THIS FORWARD WITH COUNCILMEMBER KOSKI. WE DO HAVE AN INCREDIBLE LIST OF 25BTAP PROVIDERS AT THE CITY, INCLUDING AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT CENTER, SOMALI SPEAKING, REDESIGN, LAKE STREET COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN THE UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD. IT GOES ON. AND THESE PROVIDERS THAT WE CONTRACT WITH AT THE CITY THROUGH OUR CPED DEPARTMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE INFORMATION THAT IS BROUGHT FORWARD IN THE SECTORIAL WORK GROUP TO INFORM POLICY. AND SO I WILL ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS AMENDMENT. [2:15:11] **Council President Payne**: COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN HAS MOVED THE AMENDMENT THAT IS BEFORE YOU. IT IS COAUTHORED BY COUNCILMEMBER KOSKI. IT DOESN'T NEED a PROPER SECOND. AND I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER C KOSKI. [2:15:11] **Council Member Koski**: THANK YOU ON PARTNERING ON THIS AMENDMENT, COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. THIS AMENDMENT BROADENS THE SCOPE OF REPRESENTATION OF THE LABOR STANDARDS BOARD ENSURING a WIDER ARRAY OF STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING THOSE FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE RUNNING a BUSINESS ARE a PART OF THE CONVERSATION. THIS INCLUSION OF EMPLOYER SURVEYS WILL ALLOW US TO GATHER VALUABLE INSIGHTS INTO THE SPECIFIC RESOURCES AND SUPPORT BUSINESSES NEED TO 1 NAVIGATE LABOR COMPLIANCE, WHICH IMPROVES THE LIVES OF OUR WORKERS. THIS WILL CHANGE HELP US IDENTIFY THE CHALLENGES SMALL BUSINESS FACE AND IMPROVING THE CLIMATE IN MINNEAPOLIS. THANK YOU. [2:16:44] **Council Member Chowdhury**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER KOSKI AND CASHMAN, FOR BRINGING THIS AMENDMENT FORWARD. JUST GOING TO SAY TO COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN, APPRECIATE ALL THE DEBATE THAT WE HAD LEADING UP TO THIS AMENDMENT. I ASKED YOU a LOT OF QUESTIONS. I PUSHED BACK, AND WE HAD a GREAT DISCUSSION. I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS TODAY. I THINK IT'S a GOOD AMENDMENT. I THINK IT ENSURES THE EMPLOYEE, THE EMPLOYER, THE BUSINESS PART OF THE TRI STRUCTURE IS AMPLIFIED WITHIN THE STRUCTURE. I THINK IT WILL HELP US GET INTO THE NUANCES THAT SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES FACE AND THE IMPACTS THEY TAKE ON AS THE MARKET SHIFTS. I ALSO THINK, LIKE, IT'LL HELP THE RECOMMENDATION COME UP. WE MIGHT GET SOME VALUABLE INFORMATION THAT MIGHT INSPIRE SOME POLICY CHANGE, BUDGET AMENDMENTS, THAT COULD BE IN SERVICE TO SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE STRUGGLING. AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS IN COMPETITION WITH THE VOICES OF WORKERS. I'M JUST COMMUNICATING THAT OUT TO THE PUBLIC. ALSO, THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM, LIKE, I THINK THIS IS a FAIR AMENDMENT. I THINK THIS HELPS EQUALIZE AND, IN a FAIR WAY, STRENGTHEN THE LOCAL BUSINESS VOICE. [2:17:29] **Council Member Palmisano**: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'LL ALSO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS AMENDMENT. I DON'T SEE THIS TO BE IN CONFLICT WITH WORKERS. I THINK IF ANYTHING IT WILL WORK TO TRY TO GRAB INPUT FROM ALL THE MANY PEOPLE WORKING HARD TO SUSTAIN a BUSINESS IN OUR CITY. a LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS, LET ALONE, WHOSE VOICES ARE NEVER GOING TO BE HEARD HERE. THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE TIME OUT TO COME AND SPEAK TO US HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, OR EVEN AT THE WORK GROUPS OR THE TABLES. MY CONCERN, THIS IS a SMALL ACCOMMODATION MADE IN a FLAWED LABOR BOARD SET UP. IT SADDENS ME a LITTLE I'LL DO THIS BECAUSE THIS IS THE PRINCIPLE THAT MAKES THIS SLIGHTLY BETTER. IT FEELS SAD TO ME THIS IS THE ONLY MOTION THAT IS GOING TO AMEND THIS SURPRISE, BODY TODAY. [2:18:31] **Council Member Vetaw**: THANK YOU. I GUESS I'M a LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THIS. SO THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO POTENTIALLY ASK THESE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, MORE THAN LIKELY PEOPLE OF COLOR BUSINESSES, TO SPEND ADDITIONAL TIME AND PROVIDE FREE LABOR? IS THERE a DOLLAR AMOUNT ATTACHED TO THIS? I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY OF ASKING PEOPLE OF COLOR TO DO MORE WORK FOR FREE. [2:19:33] **Council Member Cashman**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PA THE DUTIES DO SAY THAT a CERTIFIED WORKER ORGANIZATION WOULD SURVEY EMPLOYEES IN THAT SECTOR. AND SO THIS OFFERS PARITY AND SAYS THAT a BTAP PROVIDER WOULD SURVEY EMPLOYERS IN THE SECTOR. AND, OF COURSE, THE WORK WOULD BE COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY. THEY DO NOT HAVE TO ENGAGE IN THAT SURVEY. BUT THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, IF THEY WANT THEIR VOICE TO BE HEARD ON THE SECTOR. MORE FREE LABOR FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR. THANK YOU. [2:19:50] **Council President Payne**: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE CASHMAN/KOSKI AMENDMENT. [2:19:50] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. JENKINS. AYE. PALMISANO. AYE. CHOWDHURY. AYE. CASHMAN. AYE. OSMAN. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. NO. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. THERE ARE 11 AYES AND ONE NAY. [2:20:21] **Council President Payne**: THAT CARRIES. THAT AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. NOW WE WILL TAKE UP THE UNDERLYING RESOLUTION AS AMENDED. I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS. [2:20:21] **Council Member Jenkins**: THANK YOU. AGAIN, I WANT TO REITERATE MY SUPPORT FOR WORKERS. WHILE I DISAGREE THAT THIS RESOLUTION IS a PERFECT DOCUMENT, I TRIED TO BRING AMENDMENTS TO STRENGTHEN IT. I'M a SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND CONTINUE TO BE a SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. I FOUNDED AND OPERATED a CATERING BUSINESS FOR 10 YEARS IN THIS CITY. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE MARGINS ON ANY RESTAURANT IN THIS CITY ARE INCREDIBLY THIN. I HEARD FROM CITIZENS IN MY WARD, ALL OF THEM PEOPLE OF COLOR AND/OR WOMEN. THEY ARE DEEPLY CHALLENGED BY THIS RESOLUTION, AS IT IS WORDED. AS AM I. I WILL BE RELUCTANTLY SUPPORTING THIS UNDERLYING AMENDMENT, AND I WILL ALSO BE BRINGING FORWARDS AMENDMENTS TO STRENGTHEN THIS AS THIS WORK CONTINUES. [2:21:57] **Council Member Koski**: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, AND COLLEAGUES. I WANT TO CENTER US IN OUR NEW REALITY WITH DONALD TRUMP'S RE-ELECTION AND REPUBLICANS SECURING SENATE AND HOUSE, THERE'S AN ENACT TO PROJECT 2025. HIS POLICY AGENDA THAT WE KNOW, IT INCLUDES REGRANDSONNIVE POLICY SHIFTS THAT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERMINE WORKERS RIGHTS. INCLUDING EFFORTS TO DIMINISH THE POWER OF LABOR UNIONS AND DEREGULATE CRITICAL PROTECTIONS IN THE WORKPLACE. THIS ATTACK ON WORKERS RIGHTS AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT WILL HAVE FAR-REACHING CONSEQUENCES. CONSEQUENCES THAT WILL REACH US HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS. IT WILL AFFECT OUR ECONOMY, OUR WORK FORCE, AND THE FAIRNESS AND INTEGRITY WE STRIVE TO UPHOLD IN EVERY WORKPLACE. IT WILL THREATEN TO UNDERMINE THE RIGHTS WE FOUGHT SO HARD TO SECURE. OUR COMMITMENT TO LABOR RIGHTS WILL SOON BE PUT TO THE TEST. NOW MORE THAN EVER, WE MUST REMAIN STEADFAST, UNITED, AND FIRM IN OUR VALUES. THIS RESOLUTION PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE MEANINGFUL ACTION. IT CREATES a PLATFORM FOR DIVERSE STAKEHOLDERS. INCLUDING BUSINESS OWNERS, INCLUDING WORKERS, AND INCLUDING COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES. TO COLLABORATE O LABOR POLICY AND DRIVE MEANINGFUL CHANGE. I SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION, NOT JUST AS a RESPONSE TO OUR SHIFTING POLITICAL LANDSCAPE, BUT AS a PROACTIVE STEP FORWARD IN SAFE GUARDING OUR ECONOMY, OUR WORK FORCE, AND OUR WORK ENVIRONMENT. THANK YOU. [2:23:34] **Council Member Palmisano**: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I NEED TO POINT OUT DICHOTOMY THAT MAKES ME DEEPLY UNCOMFORTABLE. WE CANNOT SAY TO LABOR, "THIS IS a TRANSFORMATIONAL CHANGE IN HOW WE OPERATE." AND THEN TELL INDUSTRY, OR CONCERNED SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO HAVE a BUSINESS IN OUR CITY, "OH, NO, THIS IS LIKE a SMALL ONE OF OUR DOZENS OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS LIKE OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON AGING." THIS BOARD IS NOT BALANCED. WE DO NOT KNOW THE COST. WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE PEOPLE THAT IT WILL AFFECT. I'M NOT READY TO VOTE ON THIS. I'LL BE VOTING NO TODAY. [2:23:58] **Council Member Vetaw**: I'M DEEPLY DISAPPOINTED THAT THIS COUNCIL COULDN'T WAIT. I APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY SAID ABOUT DOING THE WORK. ON 15 MINIMUM FOR TOBACCO IN COUNCIL BECAUSE OVER 50 ADVOCATES ON ALL SIDES -- ACTUALLY WAITED ALMOST TWO MONTHS BECAUSE OF a STAFF ERROR I DO APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO DO THAT WORK IN COUNCIL. WHEN WE NEEDED TO, BECAUSE FOLKS HAD ADVOCATED FOR, I MEAN, I ADVOCATED FOR THAT POLICY. SO I KNOW THAT IT HAD BEEN OVER TWO YEARS. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THE WORK THAT DAY. ON THE BEHALF OF OVER 50 ORGANIZATIONS WHO ADVOCATED FOR THAT POLICY. AND THE STAKEHOLDERS WERE, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE HISTORY OF MY WORK, EVEN STORE OWNERS ADVOCATING FOR a STRONGER TOBACCO POLICY. SO THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES FOR THAT. THAT WORK IN COUNCIL. BUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED TODAY IS DIFFERENT. WE'VE SEEN, WE'VE HAD ENGAGEMENT FROM FOLKS WHO HAVE SAID THEY HAVEN'T BEEN HEARD. THEY JUST WANTED a PUBLIC HEARING. THEY JUST WANTED THIS COUNCIL TO HEAR THEIR SIDE. AND THAT'S PEOPLE ON ALL SIDES OF THE ISSUE. THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE ON ALL SIDES. AND MORE THAN ANYTHING, I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE WHO COME FROM THE MOST UNDERSERVED AND UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES IN THIS CITY. AND FOR ME TO VOTE AGAINST THEM HAVING a VOICE GOES AGAINST EVERYTHING I AM AS a PERSON. I WOULD NEVER DO THAT. I COULDN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT IF I DID THAT. I'M DISAPPOINTED THIS COUNCIL DIDN'T TAKE THAT REQUEST SERIOUS ENOUGH TO DELAY THIS FOR SOME TIME TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE. THIS LABORED STANDARDS BOARD COULD HAVE BEEN a GOOD THING. WE COULD HAVE HAD FOLKS ON THE SAME PAGE. WE COULD HAVE HAD TIME TO GET PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. I KNOW THERE'S CYNICISM AROUND SOME PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE ON BOARD. THAT'S EVERY SINGLE ISSUE THAT COMES BEFORE US. YOU NEVER ARE GOING TO PLEASE EVERYBODY. BUT WHEN PEOPLE SHOW UP IN NUMBERS AND SAY, "LISTEN TO ME! I NEED a PLATFORM. I WANT TO BE HEARD." YOU TAKE a STEP BACK. YOU LISTEN. YOU DO WHAT THEY ASK. AT LEAST I DO. AND WHO THE OTHER FIVE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR IT, WE DO. IT'S EMBARRASSING. AND YOU ALL DON'T HAVE TO GO TO NORTH MINNEAPOLIS AND FACE THE PEOPLE WHO ALWAYS FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT LISTENED TO. THE PRESIDENT JUST SAID HIMSELF THIS WEEK THAT THIS IS a SYSTEM THAT IS HARD FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS. AND NOW TODAY IT'S EASY. LET THEM ACCESS WHAT WE WANT TO GIVE TO THEM. WE COULD HAVE DONE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THIS. THIS BOARD COULD HAVE BEEN WHAT PEOPLE ON ALL SIDES WANTED. HAD WE TOOK THE TIME TO LISTEN TO EVERYBODY. COME TOGETHER AS a BODY AND GET -- I REALLY BELIEVE THIS COULD HAVE HAD a UNANIMOUS VOTE IF WE HAD DONE THE WORK. BUT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SO IN a RUSH TO DO WHAT THEY SAID IS JUST BRINGING THE GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER TO RECOMMEND POLICIES. ALL THE FEAR MONGERING AROUND WHAT TRUMP IS GOING TO DO AND WHAT HE COULD DO. I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WOULDN'T LET ANY OF THAT HAPPEN. IT'S OUR JOB AS ELECTED OFFICIALS TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT HAPPENING. THEY CAN'T VOTE ON POLICY. THEY CAN RECOMMEND IT. IT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE POLICY. STRONG POLICY TO PROTECT OUR WORKERS AND OUR BUSINESS OWNERS. NOT ONE OR THE OTHER. BOTH. EVERYONE IN THIS CITY. SO THE IDEA THAT DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO SWOOP IN AND CHANGE SOMETHING, BECAUSE OF a LABOR STANDARDS BOARD, IS WRONG AND IT'S FEAR MONGERING. THIS COUNCIL IS GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON THIS CITY. IT'S OUR JOB TO DO SO. LOCAL ELECTIONS MATTER FOR THAT REASON. [2:28:26] **Council Member Rainville**: I'LL BE VOTING NO ON THIS TODAY. ON BEHALF OF THE BUSINESSES IN WARD 3 AND THEIR EMPLOYEES. EMPLOYEES WHO DIDN'T HAVE a CHANCE TO SPEAK PUBLICLY YOU HAVE THE VOTES TO PASS THIS TODAY. I SEE WHICH WAY IT'S GOING TO GO. BUT THIS VOTE IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING FOR THE EMPTY STORE FRONTS ON LAKESTREET. EMPTY STORE FRONTS IN UPTOWN. EMPTY STORE FRONTS IN DOWNTOWN, CENTRAL AVENUE, WEST BROADWAY. WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO IS SEND a MESSAGE TO THE INVESTMENT COMMUNITY THAT MINNEAPOLIS IS ADDING YET ANOTHER LAYER, ANOTHER REASON TO NOT COME HERE AND INVEST MONEY IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TO HELP FILL OUR EMPTY OFFICE BUILDINGS, AND TO GO BACK TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT HAS APPROACHED ME IN THE THIRD WARD, THEY'RE TELLING ME THAT WHEN THEIR LEASES ARE UP, THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE. IF THEY DO EXPAND, THEY'RE GOING TO EXPAND OUTSIDE OF MINNEAPOLIS. AND THIS IS SO WRONG TO SIT UP HERE AND DEMONIZE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, CORPORATIONS. THEY CREATE THE JOBS. THEY PAY THE TAXES. THEY GIVE TO CHARITY. THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK FOR THE CITY. WE RUSHING THIS AND THE CONGRATULATIONS, YEAH YOU HAVE THE VOTES TO PASS IT. YOU WILL NOT HAVE MY VOTE TODAY. [2:30:15] **Council Member Chavez**: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANTED TO MAKE a FEW COMMENTS. WITHOUT WORKERS IN THE CITY, THERE ARE NO BUSINESSES. THE WORKERS ARE THE BACKBONE OF THIS CITY. AND THEY HELP RUN BUSINESSES AND MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS GET THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED. AND I WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY, AND COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN FOR THEIR DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS RESOLUTION FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. FOR TAKING ON a TON OF LABOR ON MAKING SURE THAT WE GOT TO THE POINT TODAY WHERE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT GIVES VOICES TO WORKERS IN OUR CITY. AND I WANT TO THANK THE THREE AUTHORS AND OUR COLLEAGUES WHO ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THIS TODAY FOR LISTENING TO WORKERS, LIKE MY MOTHER, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WHO WORKED THREE JOBS TO BARELY MAKE IT BY BECAUSE THEIR VOICES IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS MATTER. THEIR VOICES DESERVE -- THOSE VOICES DESERVE TO HAVE a SEAT AT THE TABLE. WHEN I'M VOTING FOR THIS, I'M VOTING FOR PEOPLE LIKE MY MOTHER, WHO I KNOW ARE a REFLECTION OF THIS CITY, WHO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS CITY WORK MULTIPLE JOBS AND ARE STILL BARELY ABLE TO AFFORD THEIR RENT, TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE. AND I'LL JUST REMIND FOLKS, THIS IS AN ADVISORY BOARD. WE GET TO LISTEN AND HEAR FROM THESE FOLKS. WE'RE TELLING EVERYONE THIS IS AN ADVISORY BOARD. WE'RE NOT TELLING ONE GROUP THIS IS AN ADVISORY BOARD AND ANOTHER PERSON THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE. WE'RE TELLING EVERYONE THIS ISEN a ADVISORY BOARD. I THINK WE'VE BEEN CLEAR ON THE DAIS HERE. THIS SEASON ADVISORY BOARD. IT ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH PEOPLE FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THOSE FOLKS, PARTICULARLY, AS WELL, THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO MAKE IT BY. AND HEAR THEIR VOICES, TOO. THANK YOU. [2:32:07] **Council Member Cashman**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW, WE'VE SAID a LOT OF THIS TODAY. I WANT TO THE ADDRESS WHAT I DID LEARN FROM SMALL BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT THIS ENGAGEMENT. AND I THINK IT IS VERY FAIR TO SAY THAT THEY ARE UNDERSUPPORTED FROM THE CITY. AND THAT THERE IS a LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE WITH HOW THE CITY SUPPORTS THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY. THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS I'VE HEARD, AND I WANT TO NAME THEM. SO THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON SUCH THINGS. EASIER ACCESS TO RESPONSIVENESS FROM CITY PERMITTING DEPARTMENTS LIKE CPED AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. THERE'S a BUSINESS IN MY WARD, 19 BAR, WE KNOW IT. LOVE IT. BURNT DOWN. IT'S REBUILTING RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEIR PERMITS THROUGH THE CITY. AND HAVING a VERY HARD TIME WITH THAT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM GET UP AND RUNNING FASTER AND GET BACK ON THEIR FEET. SUPPORT FOR SMALL BUSINESSES DURING RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. LIKE THE HENNEPIN AVENUE RECONSTRUCTION. WE DO NOT DO a GOOD ENOUGH JOB. THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK ON. PLACE-BASED SOLUTIONS. LIKE SOLUTIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR UPTOWN BUSINESSES. BETTER OUTREACH TO BUSINESSES ABOUT ALL OF THE FINANCIAL TOOLS THAT WE DO HAVE FROM DBTAP SERVICES, FACADE IMPROVEMENTS, BUSINESS DISTRICT SUPPORT GRANTS, COUNTY ELEVATE PROGRAM, HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT THESE TOOLS ARE ASSESSABLE TO ALL BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY? INVIGORATING THE CPED SMALL BUSINESS TEAM. AND BASIC CITY SERVICES, PARKING, SECURITY SIDEWALKS STREET LIGHTS. BUSINESSES NEED HIGH-QUALITY BUSINESSES FROM THE CITY. I HEAR THAT. NONE OF THAT IS IN CONFLICT WITH HIGH WORKPLACE AND LABOR STANDARDS. AND I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO BOTH. AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO PASS THIS POLICY TODAY. [2:33:58] **Council Member Chowdhury**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANT TO JUST, FIRST, START OFF BY THANKING COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN AND COUNCILMEMBER VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI FOR COAUTHORING THIS RESOLUTION WITH ME. COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT, BEFORE EITHER COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN AND I WERE ELECTED, YOU WERE WORKING ON THIS. AND THANK YOU FOR THE YEARS OF WORK ON THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THE WORKERS IN OUR CITY WHO WORK EVERY I TH SINGLE DAY TO MAKE E OUR CITY RUNS. THAT BUSINESSES ARE STAFFED. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR WORKDAY. TAKING TIME OFF TO SHOW UP TO CITY HALL AND ADVOCATE, NOT JUST FOR YOURSELF, AS AN INDIVIDUAL, BUT a COLLECTIVE OF WORKERS WHO AREN'T ABLE TO TAKE THE TIME OFF TODAY TO SIT IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANK YOU FOR SHARING VULNERABLE STORIES OF EGREGIOUS THINGS YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED IN YOUR WORKPLACE. AND BEING BRAVE ENOUGH TO SAY, "HEY, THERE ARE BAD THINGS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW TO PEOPLE, WORKING PEOPLE IN OUR CITY. IT'S NOT ALL ROSE-TINTED GLASSES. WE MIGHT HAVE $15 MINIMUM WAGE, WE MIGHT HAVE SICK AND SAFE TIME, BUT WE'RE GETTING HURT AT WORK. WE'RE GETTING HARASSED AT WORK. WE'RE GETTING MISTREATED." AND WHAT YOU'RE STAYING IS, LET ME HAVE a VOICE AT THE TABLE. AN EQUAL VOICE. THANK YOU TO THE LOCAL BUSINESSES FOR ENGAGING WITH ME AND MY COLLEAGUES. THANK YOU FOR SITTING DOWN WITH ME AT YOUR RESTAURANTS. AND HAVING a DIALOGUE. THANK YOU TO THE EMPLOYERS WHO ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. AND TOOK SOME TIME TO UNDERSTAND THE POLICY. AND I AGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT THAT COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN MADE. THAT SMALL BUSINESSES ARE UNDERSUPPORTED BY OUR CITY INSTITUTION. I THINK THERE'S MORE TO BE DONE THERE. I THINK YOU'LL SEE IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE THERE'S GOING TO BE MULTIPLE AMENDMENTS IN SUPPORT OF LOCAL BUSINESS. I'LL BE CARRYING ONE OF THOSE AMENDMENTS. AND I THINK THIS KIND OF JUST OPENS UP a DOORWAY TO SAY, HEY, MAYBE WE NEED AN ADVISORY BOARD FOR LOCAL BUSINESS LEADERS. NOT JUST TO DEFEND AGAINST REGULATIONS, BUT TO TALK ABOUT, LIKE, MAYBE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT a WAY TO GET INVESTMENTS TO US THAT WILL SUPPORT US. RIGHT. MAYBE THERE'S MORE TO BE DISCUSSED HERE AROUND HOW WE DO KEEP THOSE STORE FRONTS OPEN. HOW WE FILL THE VACANT ONES. IF WE'RE EXPERIENCING HARDSHIP DURING CONSTRUCTION. OR THERE'S a CRISIS AND IT IMPACTS OUR OPERATIONS IN LOCAL BUSINESSES. WE WANT TO FIGURE IT OUT. MAYBE IT'S a TABLE WE CAN CREATE. I WANT TO ALSO JUST KIND OF ADDRESS THIS FEELING OF THE SKY IS FALLING. AND WITH THIS LABOR STANDARDS BOARD MOVING FORWARD. I WANT TO ROOT US IN THE FACT, YEAH, I NAMED THE PARADOX. WHILE IT IS AN ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH IT IS. IT'S AN ADVISORY BOARD. AGAIN, LIKE, THE REVOLUTION PART OF IT. WORKERS GET a SAY. THE SKY IS NOT FALLING FOR PEOPLE TO GET a SAY AT THE TABLE. WORKERS HAVING a SAY IS NOT GOING TO STOP INVESTMENT FROM COMING INTO OUR CITY. I THINK THAT'S DEEPLY MISINFORMED. I THINK IT'S ALSO DEEPLY SHAMEFUL TO SEE THE WAY THAT MISINFORMATION HAS SHOWN UP INTO THE DOORS OF SOME OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES TO SAY THAT THIS POLICY IS GOING TO SHUTTER YOUR BUSINESS. THAT IS SO INAPPROPRIATE TO SCARE a LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER TO SAY AN ADVISORY BOARD WHERE WORKERS WILL GET AN EQUAL SAY TO YOU IS GOING TO SHUTTER YOUR BUSINESS. IT'S SO WRONG TO DO. AND I WANT TO CALL THAT OUT TODAY. I ALSO WANT TO TAKE SOME TIME TO SAY THAT, LIKE, IF LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE UNDERSUPPORTED, THEN WORKERS ARE FAR MORE UNDERSUPPORTED IN OUR CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. WE HAVE SO MANY PROGRAMS FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT WE NEED TO BOLSTER. BUT THERE'S ONLY, LIKE, a HANDFUL OF THINGS, IN WHICH WE ENGAGE WITH WORKERS. AND SO IF TODAY, US PASSING a LABOR STANDARDS RESOLUTION TO CREATE a BOARD TO GIVE THEM a VOICE GIVES ONE MORE TOOL AMONG VERY FEW. I FEEL LIKE I DID MY JOB TODAY AND I STOOD WITH MY VALUES. AND UNDERSTOOD THAT, LIKE, WITHOUT LABOR, THERE'S NO CAPITAL. THERE'S NO WEALTH. THERE'S NO TAX BASE. THERE'S NO COMMUNITY. THERE'S NO SUCCESS FOR THIS CITY. SO I'M SUPER EXCITED THAT IT'S HERE TODAY. I WISH OUR VOTE TODAY WASN'T AS DIVIDED. I DISAGREE WITH THE POINT THAT THIS IS UNBALANCED. I THINK, FINALLY, THERE'S a VOICE FOR a SEGMENT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN INEQUITABLY REPRESENTED IN INSTITUTIONS LIKE THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. AND I DO THINK, WHILE WE'RE THE FRONTLINE OF THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS UNDER a TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, IT DOESN'T STOP THE MOST ANTI-WORKER, ANTILABOR SUPREME COURT FROM EVOLVING -- DISSOLVING RULINGS THAT WILL IMPACT US HERE. AND SO THIS IS US MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN DO THIS SMALL THING TODAY. WHICH IS ALSO a BIG THING. WORKERS HAVE BEEN WAITING TO HAVE a VOICE. THANK YOU. [2:39:44] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: MR. PRESIDENT, IT'S BEEN AWHILE SINCE WE'VE LOOKED AT THE AGENDA. BUT THERE IS, ALSO, a MOTION WITH THIS THAT RETURNS THE UNDERLYING ORIGINAL ORDINANCE BACK TO AUTHOR BECAUSE OF THE SWITCH FROM THE FIRST INTRODUCTION OF THE ORDINANCE TO a RESOLUTION. THE MOTION, AS AMENDED, AND THE DIRECTION TO RETURN TO AUTHOR THE UNDERLYING ORDINANCE. COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON, AYE. KOSKI. AYE. JENKINS. AYE. PALMISANO. NO. CHOWDHURY. AYE. CASHMAN. AYE. OSMAN. AYE. RAINVILLE. NO. CHAVEZ. AYE. VETAW. NO. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. THERE ARE NINE AYES AND THREE NAYS. [2:40:47] **Council President Payne**: THAT CARRIES. AND THE FULL REPORT IS ADOPTED. AND THAT COMPLETES THE REPORTS OF ALL OF OUR STANDING COMMITTEES. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS NOTICE OF ORDINANCE INTRODUCTIONS. ONE NOTICE TODAY FROM COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN. AN AMENDMENT TO TITLE I OF CODE OF ORDINANCES RELATED TO ADMINISTRATIVE ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES CLARIFYING TITLE 22 LAND SUBDIVISION AND TITLE 23 HERITAGE PRESERVATION ARE PROVISIONS SUBJECT TO ADMINISTRATIVE ENFORCEMENT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS NOTICE? SEEING NONE. THAT NOTICE IS GIVEN AND NO FURTHER ACTION REQUIRED AT THIS TIME. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL CALENDAR. WITH HAVE THREE INTRODUCTIONS TODAY FROM COUNCILMEMBERS CHAVEZ AND CHOWDHURY AND COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. ALL OF WHICH RELATED TO ESTABLISHING AUTHORIZED AND REGULATED SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES OR INDIVIDUALIZED OUTDOOR SHELTERING OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESSES. THESE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS ARE IN SEVERAL CHAPTERS LOCATED IN THE BUILDING HEALTH AND SANITATION AND ZONING CODES AND BEING REFERRED TO THE BUSINESS, HOUSING, AND ZONING COMMITTEE AND THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE AS LIST ORDER THE AGENDA. AND THE FOURTH INTRODUCTION IS FROM COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN INTROP DEUCING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE BUSINESS REGULATIONS CODE FOR FIRST READING AND REFERRAL FOR THE BUSINESS, HOUSING, AND ZONING COMMITTEE. AMENDING PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE LOCATION RESTRICTIONS OF LICENSED TOBACCO DEALERS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THESE INTRODUCTIONS? SEEING COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS. [2:42:20] **Council Member Jenkins**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANT TO COMMENT ON THE SAFE SPACE ORDINANCES. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHO IS GOING TO BE OPERATING THESE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IF THEY ARE TO OCCUR. WE'VE HEARD FROM MANY, MANY FOLKS WHO ENGAGE IN THAT KIND OF WORK THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY AND/OR, QUITE FRANKLY, THE WILLINGNESS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD NAVIGATION CENTERS WHICH WERE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. AND THEY WERE VERY CHALLENGED. SO WE HAVE TO BUILD IN STRUCTURES THAT MAKE IT SAFE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THOSE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES, IF THEY ARE TO OCCUR. AS WELL AS SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, IT HAS TO BE a PART OF THE ORDINANCES AS THEY STAND SO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT COM COMMENT. [2:43:55] **Council Member Chavez**: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER PAYNE AND JENKINS. WE WERE ABLE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS AT YOUR TOWN HALL LAST WEEK. COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY AND I. I'LL MAKE IT PRETTY QUICKLY. WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THIS POLICY RIGHT. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO ESTABLISH THESE ALL OVER THE CITY. WE'RE TRYING TO PILOT THESE PROJECTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE DONE CORRECTLY. I WILL SAY, THOUGH, THESE ARE NOT NAVIGATION CENTERS. THERE HAS BEEN PROVIDERS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT IT LIKE THE TWIN CITIES RECOVERY PROJECT WHO HAS BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH MANY OF US ON HOW THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS IN OUR CITY. WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH YOU, COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS, ON ANY CONCERNS YOU HAVE. [2:44:40] **Council Member Chowdhury**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST POPPING HERE TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS FOR INVITING US TO YOUR TOWN HALL. THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY INFORMATIVE. KIND OF HEARING BACK FROM THE THINK TANK WORK YOU DID IN YOUR WARD. AND ENGAGING MORE BROADLY IN THAT SPACE. I HAD a PRETTY LARGE COMMUNITY MEETING LAST NIGHT. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE a SMALLER ONE, BUT IT EVOLVED INTO, LIKE, a 70-PLUS INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY MEETING. WE GRAPPLED WITH, YEAH, WE GRAPPLED WITH a LOT OF WHAT WE GRAPPLED WITH AT YOUR TOWN HALL. THERE WAS a LOT OF INTEREST FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO UNDERSTAND AND EXPLORE WHAT THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE CONCEPT COULD BE. SOME POSITIVE REACTIONS AND JUST THINKING ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO CREATE MORE SAFE, SECURE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING OPTIONS THAT REDUCE a NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE LIVING WITHIN AN ENCAMPMENT OUTSIDE. AND SO, YEAH. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING ON THIS VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING ON THIS WITH YOU AND PEOPLE PART OF YOUR THINK TANK. AND YOUR THINK TANK, HONESTLY, INSPIRED ME TO KIND OF SEE IF THERE'S a WARD 12 SPECIFIC TYPE OF CONVERSATION I SHOULD BE HAVING, TOO. IN REGARDS TO THIS POLICY. THANKS FOR THAT. [2:46:05] **Council Member Vetaw**: THANK YOU. SO I HAD a COUPLE OF QUICK BRIEF CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF ABOUT IDENTIFYING AREAS WHERE, IF THESE POLICIES ARE ENACTED, YOU KNOW LIKE, WHERE SUCH PLACES CAN GO. IT SOUNDS LIKE PLACES WARD 12 AND 2. CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES WHERE WE HAVE. BECAUSE THIS IS THE POLICY ABOUT, LIKE, a LARGER CONTROLLED ENCAMPMENT, CORRECT? [2:46:38] **Council Member Chavez**: NO. IT'S a SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. THERE'S SAFE OUTDOOR PLACES IN DENVER, COLORADO. THERE ARE SAFE PARKING SIMILAR TO MINNESOTA, WHICH IS SEASONAL SOMEONE CAN PARK THEIR CAR OVERNIGHT AND GET SERVICES AND MEALS FROM ALL PROVIDERS. [2:47:01] **Council Member Vetaw**: BUT a TINOY HOME WOULDN'T BE a SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. YOU CAN BUILD TI IN, Y HOMES. IT WOULD BE. OKAY. IT IS ABOUT, LIKE, IDENTIFYING SOME AREAS WHERE YOU CAN HAVE a CAR. HAVE a TINY HOME. HAVE a YURT. HAVE a TENT. [2:47:19] **Council Member Chavez**: SO, NO. NOT NECESSARILY. THIS IS CREATING ORDINANCES TO ALLOW FOR a PLACE TO GO THROUGH a CITY PROCESS TO ESTABLISH a SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. AND a SAFE PARKING. NOT a YURT. NOT AN ENCAMPMENT. [2:47:35] **Council Member Vetaw**: I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. I'M SAYING THAT COULD BE COVERED. LIKE NOW YOU. YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO LEGALLY, IF THIS PASSED, YOU WOULD BE LEGALLY ABLE TO HAVE THOSE THINGS, RATHER IT'S THE CAR, THE TENT, OR WHATEVER IN THESE, IF THE POLICY IS ADOPTED YOU CAN HAVE THESE THINGS IN THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. [2:47:56] **Council Member Chavez**: YOU WOULD HAVE a REGULATED LOCATION YOU GO THROUGH a CITY PROCESS. BUT NOT I'M GOING TO SET UP AN ENCAMENT. [2:48:19] **Council Member Vetaw**: THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY. MORE THAN LIKELY SOME CITY PROPERTIES. I TALKED TO STAFF ABOUT THIS THEY DID SAY THERE'S SOME WARD 12 AND WARD 2 CITY LAND THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD GO ON BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. [2:48:19] **Council Member Chavez**: OKAY. YES. WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. GO THROUGH CITY PROCESS. ANYWHERE IN THE CITY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THERE'S LAND. AND PARTNERS WITH a CHURCH MIGHT WANT TO DO. IT'S ON CITY LAND. THERE IS a COMPONENT WHERE, LIKE, a NONPROFIT OR SOMEONE COULD ALSO APPLY FOR, LIKE, IN DENVER. WHERE SOMEONE COULD APPLY FOR a PERMIT TO HAVE IT. [2:49:09] **Council Member Vetaw**: YEAH. YEP. SO AREAS WITH CARS, MAYBE. BUT ALSO AREAS FOR YURTS. [2:49:09] **Council Member Chavez**: NOT YURTS. BUT TINY HOMES. IT COULD BE a TENT-LIKE STRUCTURE PODS MULTIPLE DIFFERENT STRUCTURES IN a SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. IT'S SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDING YURLTS AND TENTS. NO. THE VISION WE WANT TO DO IS SIMILAR TO DENVER, COLORADO. DENVER, COLORADO DOES NOT HAVE YURTS. [2:49:46] **Council Member Vetaw**: OKAY. SO I'M SURE WE'LL GET FURTHER INTO THIS. BUT I CAN ONLY GO BY WHAT WE SEE HERE. RIGHT. HERE WE SEE YURTS AND WE SEE TENTS. MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE THE YURT UNION IN DENVER. I DON'T KNOW. BUT IF THE POLICY ALLOWS FOR THEM. MAYBE THEY'LL BE HERE. I THINK WHAT I'M ASKING IS, WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOU'RE BRINGING FORWARD a POLICY THAT ALLOWS FOR WHAT WE SEE HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS. CORRECT. OKAY. [2:50:50] **Council Member Chowdhury**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I THINK YOU'RE BRINGING UP SOME GOOD QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. AND I THINK THE THING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP MINDFUL FOR ALL OF US, RIGHT, NOT MISSING THE FOREST FOR THE TREES. WE'RE AT THE TOP OF THE POLICY MAKING PROCESS. WE'LL BE LOOKING AT DENVER, COLORADO AS THE STARTING POINT. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE a MINNEAPOLIS-SPECIFIC POLICY THAT, WOO WORKS FOR OUR RESIDEN, OUR UNHOUSED RESIDENTS, OUR CITY. I THINK WE'LL GET INTO THE DI DISCUSSION OF WHAT STRUCE WE THINK IS MOST FAVORABLE FOR THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE TYPE OF CLIMATE WE HAVE HERE IN OUR CITY. AND THEN JUST QUICK WANTED TO NOTE SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ LIFTED UP. I BELIEVE IN THE 2023 LEGISLATIVE SESSION. THE STATE PASSED a LAW THAT ALLOWS FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS, LIKE CHURCHES, TO HAVE ZONING THAT ALLOWS THEM TO BUILD TINY HOME STRUCTURES WITHIN THEIR PARKING LOTS. SO THERE'S PARTNERSHIPS WE CAN BUILD HERE WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT'LL BE a PART OF THE DISCUSSION FOR a SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE MODEL. [2:51:16] **Council Member Palmisano**: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. ACTUALLY, I THINK COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY JUST ANSWERED MY QUESTION. AND IT WAS THIS. WOULDN'T a TINY HOME BE CONSIDERED a PERMANENT STRUCTURE. THAT'S NOT a SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. BUT MAYBE WITHIN THE BODY OF THIS WORK THAT YOU'RE TAKING ON, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE MIGHT ALLOW THINGS LIKE TINY HOMES IN PLACES THEY WEREN'T PREVIOUSLY ZONED. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE S CLEAR THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ALLOWANCES THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW WITH THE TINY HOME PROJECT THAT IS HOUSED WITHIN a WAREHOUSE HERE. I'M SEEING COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY NOD IN AGREEMENT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING. YEAH. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, AS YOU GET FURTHER ALONG. AND I APPRECIATE WE NEED SOME TYPE OF RELIEF VALVE IN OUR CITY FOR ENCAMPMENTS. WHEN THEY GET CLEARED END UP WITH THE SAME PEOPLE BEING PUSHED TO ANOTHER LOCATION. ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE NOT LOWERING OUR STANDARDS OF WHAT WE CALL LIVABLE SPACES OR LIVABLE UNITS. BECAUSE THAT WOULD DEEPLY IMPACT a LOT OF RENTERS IN OUR CITY IN a NEGATIVE WAY IF WE DECREASE THE STANDARDS FOR WHAT WE CONSIDER HABITABLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THIS INTRODUCTION. [2:53:15] **Vice President Chughtai**: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I THINK, UMM, a COUPLE OF THINGS TO ADD TO THIS DISCUSSION. WHICH I'M EXCITED WE'RE HAVING a MORE SUBSTANTIATIVE DISCUSSION PRIOR TO a VOTE ON INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL. SO, UMM, SOMETHING INHERIT ABOUT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IS THE NATURE THEY ARE -- THAT THEY ARE TEMPORARY BY NATURE. RIGHT. a SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE IT DOESN'T EXIST FOREVER. YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TINY HOMES, I THINK COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY BROUGHT UP AN EXAMPLE OF TINY HOMES THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED ON a -- THAT ARE -- THAT EXIST IN SO YOU CAN BUILD THEM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN DISASSEMBLE THEM AND STORE THEM AND REMOVE THEM TO a DIFFERENT SPACE. THAT'S AN EXAMPLE, I THINK, I THINK, AS WE'RE DEVELOPING THIS POLICY, THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND INHERIT TO a SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE POLICY OR a SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE AND THE WAYS IN WHICH IT IS NOT, YOU KNOW, QUOTE UNQUOTE REGULARRED ENCAMPMENTS. ONE, THEY ARE -- THERE'S a LOT OF CITY PROCESS AND PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS THAT GO INTO THE CREATION OF a SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. THAT THERE ARE -- OR THINGS THAT ARE IN COMMON ON a POLICY LIKE THIS, UMM, AH, THAT THERE IS THE REQUIREMENT THAT SOMEONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THAT SPACE. THAT IT'S AN ENTITY THAT HAS EXPERIENCE IN DOING THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO EXPERIENCE WITH SERVICE PROVISION. EXPERIENCE WITH SAFETY. THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WHEN WE LOOK AT ENCAMPMENTS, WE SEE TENTS THAT ARE CONSTRUCTED THAT ARE ON THE GROUND. THAT IS a PRETTY SERIOUS PUBLIC HEALTH RISK, TOO. AND EVEN TENT-LIKE STRUCTURES IN -- IN a SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE HAVE REQUIREMENTS ON HOW FAR ABOVEGROUND a TENT-LIKE STRUCTURE CAN EXIST TO PREVENT THINGS LIKE RODENT INFESTATIONS OR OTHER TYPES OF HARM THAT CAN HAPPEN. SO THERE'S -- THERE'S -- THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SO MANY CHAPTERS BEING OPENED HERE, AS WELL. IT BECAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT -- DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT WILL NEED TO KEEP IN MIND AND, AGAIN, SERVICE PROVISION AND ACCESS TO SERVICES ARE ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL AND DISTINCTIVE PARTS OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES FROM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE JUST OUTSIDE. EITHER IN GROUPS OR BY THEMSELVES. THANK YOU. [2:56:12] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON, AYE. KOSKI. AYE. JENKINS. AYE. PALMISANO. AYE. CHOWDHURY. AYE. CASHMAN. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE, AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. VETAW. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. THERE ARE 11 AYES. [2:56:55] **Council President Payne**: THAT CARRIES. THOSE MATTERS WILL BE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEES LISTED ON THE AGENDA IN THE NEXT CYCLE. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS RESOLUTIONS. AS SHOWN ON THE AGENDA. WE HAVE ONE HONORARY RESOLUTION TODAY OBSERVING THE TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS? COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS. [2:56:55] **Council Member Jenkins**: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR APPROVING THIS HONORARY RESOLUTION TODAY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT THIS NEW ADMINISTRATION AND WHAT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT DO. THEY HAVE SPECIFICALLY TARGETED THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY AS a COMMUNITY THAT THEY WANT TO WIPE OFF THE PLANET EARTH. AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN AN OUT TRANS PERSON, VERY OUTSPOKEN FOR OVER 35 YEARS. I'VE NEVER BEEN FEARFUL. TODAY I AM IN DEEP FEAR FOR MY COMMUNITY. I'VE BEEN COMPLETELY DEPRESSED. THIS WHOLE NINE DAYS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION'S THUS FAR. AND THEY ARE PROVING TO LIVE UP TO THEIR PROMISES. SO WE HAVE DECLARED OURSELVES a SANCTUARY CITY FOR TRANSGENDER NONCONFORMING PEOPLE SEEKING HEALTH CARE, ET. CETERA. WE HAVE TO STAND ON THAT. THAT IS GOING TO BE ONE OF MY PRIMARY FOCUSES. NOT ONLY ON THIS COUNCIL, BUT ON THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT I HAVE HAVE THEHONOR OF BEING a PART OF. TS WORK IS VERY SERIOUS. WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE GOING ON AROUND THE WORLD. TRANS AND GENDER NONCONFORMING PEOPLE ARE FACING a VERY STATED GENOCIDE FROM THE MOST POWERFUL ADMINISTRATION IN THE WORLD. SO THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THIS RESOLUTION TODAY. BUT OUR WORK HAS TO BE MUCH MORE THAN a RESOLUTION. I ASK ALL OF YOU TO PLEASE STAND WITH ME IN THIS FIGHT FOR EQUALITY, EQUITY, AND JUST IS. ICE. [2:59:42] **Council President Payne**: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS. I'LL ALWAYS STAND WITH YOU AND OUR TRANS COMMUNITY. I SPEAK FOR MYSELF. I WILL ALWAYS STAND WITH YOU. I BELIEVE THE BODY WILL ALWAYS STAND WITH YOU MAY I HAVE a MOTION TO ADOPT THAT HONORARY RESOLUTION? SO MOVED. IS THERE a SECOND. SECOND. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [2:59:42] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. JENKINS. AYE. PALMISANO. AYE. CHOWDHURY. AYE. CASHMAN. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE, AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. VETAW. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. THERE ARE 11 AYES. [3:00:35] **Council President Payne**: THAT CARRIES. AND THAT RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED. OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS, WHICH IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL ORDINANCE ADOPTED a THE LAST MEETING. THIS WAS VETOED BY THE MAYOR AND RETURNED FOR OUR RECONSIDERATION. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO EXPLAIN THE PROCEDURE FOR US IN TERMS OF RECONSIDERING THE MAYOR'S VETO OF THAT ITEM. MR. CLERK. [3:00:35] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: MR. PRESIDENT, AS YOU NOTED WAS RETURNED BY THE MAYOR WITH THE VETO TOGETHER WITH OBJECTIONS TO THE ACT, WHICH WAS PROVIDED IN WRITING PURSUANT TO CITY CHARTER SECTION 4.4C3. UNDER THE RULE, THE RECONSIDERED ACT IS PLACED BEFORE THE BODY IN THE SAME FORM AS ORIGINALLY PASSED. WITHOUT DEBATE AND WITHOUT AMENDMENT. AND THE IMMEDIATE QUESTION TO BE DECIDED BY COUNCIL IS AS FOLLOWING: SHALL THE DECISION OF T CITY COUNCIL STAND? NOTWITHSTANDING THE VETO OF THE MAYOR. IF AT LEAST TWO-THIRDS OF THE COUNCIL VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, THEN THE MAYOR'S VETO IS OVERRIDDEN AND THE ORIGINAL ACT IS ADOPTED THAT MEANS, AN OVERRIDE REQUIRES AT LEAST a MINIMUM OF NINE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES. IN SHORT, COUNCIL NEEDS NINE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES TO PASS THE ORIGINAL ACT AGAIN. OTHERWISE THE MAYOR'S VETO IS SUSTAINED AND THE ORIGINAL ACT FAILS. WITH THAT, I'M READY TO CALL THE ROLL FOR THE MOTION ON RECONSIDERATION. [3:01:53] **Council President Payne**: SO ON THE MOTION TO OVERRIDE THE MAYOR'S VETO, a AYE VOTE TO OVERRIDE. a NAY IS a VOTE TO SUSTAIN. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [3:01:53] **City Clerk Casey Carl**: COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON, NAY. COUNCILMEMBER KOSKI. AYE. JENKINS. NAY. PALMISANO. NO. CHOWDHURY. AYE. CASHMAN. AYE. OSMAN. NAY. RAINVILLE. NAY. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. NO. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. THERE ARE SEVEN AYES AND FIVE NAYS. [3:02:23] **Council President Payne**: THAT MOTION FAILS AND THE MAYOR'S VETO IS SUSTAINED. THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL IS NOT ADOPTED. WE WILL TAKE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS. DO COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS TO SHARE? SEEING NONE. AND WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND WITHOUT OBJECTION, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.