Bayport City Council Meeting 7/14/2025
Bayport City Council Meeting 7/14/2025
Here is the formatted transcript with speaker names added based on the context provided.
**Note:** Based on the dialogue, Councilmember Orin Kipp appears to be absent, and a **Councilmember John Dah** (as heard in the roll call and addressed by the Mayor) is seated and participating in the meeting.
[4:56] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** I’d like to welcome everybody to the July 14th, 2025, Bayport City Council meeting. We're all going to stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
[5:24] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Thanks, Matt. Will you please call the roll?
[5:24] **City Administrator Matt Kline:** Council member Dah?
**Councilmember John Dah:** Here.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Gilmore?
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** Here.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Bliss?
**Councilmember Carl Bliss:** Here.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Hill?
**Councilmember Katie Hill:** Here.
**Matt Kline:** Mayor Hansen?
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Here. Do we have approval of tonight's agenda or any changes to it?
[5:42] **Councilmember Katie Hill:** I move to approve the agenda as presented.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Thanks, Katie.
**Councilmember Carl Bliss:** Second.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Thanks, Carl. All in favor?
**Councilmembers:** Aye.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** All right, let's move on. There's no proclamations, etc. Um, we have someone here for the open forum. This is a portion of the meeting to address the city council on subjects that are not part of the agenda. City council may take action or reply at the time of the statement or may give direction to staff regarding investigation of comments expressed. A total of 15 minutes is allotted for public comment during the open forum.
[6:17] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** And we do have one scheduled guest for the open forum, Mike Huntley from Youth Service Bureau. If you'd like to come on up and tell us what you know.
**Mike Huntley:** Sure. Thank you. And I won't take 15 minutes.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Okay, great.
[6:32] **Mike Huntley:** Good evening, mayor, council members, and residents of Bayport. Thank you for inviting me to speak tonight about Youth Service Bureau. We appreciate your support. In fact, your support is necessary for our continued operations of our nonprofit organization. My name is Michael Huntley. I'm the executive director of Youth Service Bureau. I've been with the organization since 1989 and I'm here after all these years because I love what we do and the purpose that we serve. Some of you might be familiar with YSB and for others this might be new information. So I'll give a little bit of background. We are a 501c3 nonprofit organization in the state of Minnesota and we've been operating since 1977 and we have three offices: one close by in Stillwater, one in Woodbury and one down in Cottage Grove. It's all one organization with three locations. And we provide a variety of early intervention and prevention services for youth and families in our area. And we're the only organization who works exclusively with youth and families doing this kind of work. Our services include diversion, family counseling, school-based chemical health support, youth and family education, and a military family support program that's been running for 10, 11 years now. And we're in the process of expanding that—and we're not there yet—but we are in the process of expanding that to become a first responder family support program. So, we'll keep the military component, but we're going to be adding law enforcement and firefighters, and their families.
[8:27] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Thanks.
**Mike Huntley:** And we have strong partnerships with the local schools and with law enforcement. The financial support that we receive helps us keep our fees very affordable as a nonprofit organization and we have a generous sliding fee scale that's available for families who need that to access our services. It's one of the ways we can remove barriers to service. We also provide interpreter services to families who need that at no out-of-pocket costs to the family. In 2024, so the last full calendar year, we served 635 unduplicated youth and their families. And we delivered 3,920 hours of direct service to those youth and families. And that number does not include the public speaking presentations where we presented to just over 1,500 attendees here in the city of Bayport. To the best of our ability, because some people put down like a mailing address rather than their actual city address on the forms, we know that we served at least six Bayport youth and delivered 53 hours of direct service to those youth and their families. As a breakdown, five of those youth were attending our school-based chemical health support services, and one of those youth was attending therapy with their family.
[10:15] **Mike Huntley:** 2024 was an eventful year for us at YSB. We had some turnover, which added challenges to our ability to deliver services, and new staff also brings new energy and some new ideas. So, it's kind of a double-edged sword. And in spite of the turnover, we continue to produce impressive results, and the quality of our services remains solid. We get a report card every year from Washington County, and these aren't our numbers—it's external numbers—and it's the highest it's ever been. I'm kind of excited about this. 94% of the kids who came through our diversion services in 2023 went through all of 2024 without getting reinvolved with law enforcement. And that's the highest percentage we've ever had. So, I'm proud of that. I'm excited about that.
[11:14] **Mike Huntley:** In our counseling services, we receive reports from 72% of parents who say that the situation that brought their family in for services was either resolved or made manageable. And that's our standard for success. Keeping things stabilized isn't a measure that we include in that; we're looking to really make a difference. And among the students who received our school-based chemical health support, 90% of those youth report that they can now use more healthy coping skills instead of substances to help reduce stress and deal with things that they're dealing with. So, we're proud of the impact that we have and that is the power of early intervention with youth. And we are asking the city of Bayport for $1,750 in 2026 in support of our services. That's a $50 increase from what we requested a year ago, and that's due to our rising operational costs. And we have submitted a purchase of services contract for your consideration. We appreciate your support. We appreciate the partnership and we have a website, it's www.ysb.net, and it's easy to access. It has a lot more information than what I've provided. Feel free to check that out. And are there any questions that I might be able to respond to tonight?
[12:58] **City Administrator Matt Kline:** Mike, I have a question.
**Mike Huntley:** Sure.
**Matt Kline:** So, any of the state or federal cuts, have they affected any of your programming?
**Mike Huntley:** So, we have a grant that we get from the state of Minnesota. It's a relatively small grant. It doesn't come through federal funding. So, they have reassured us that that looks solid and stable. And in the recent legislative session, none of that fund that we access has been reduced or cut. So, we're expecting to scratch by. But Matt, to finish your question, other than state or government funding, what we are finding is that grant makers and some of our donations are shrinking a bit. It's kind of an uncertain time, and at a time when we need funding the most to respond to the need, it's sort of reversed. There's a little bit of reluctance or hesitation in making those grants and donations. So, every dollar that we're able to receive, I promise we put to good use.
[14:06] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Do you um—now would maybe be a good time to plug? Is there like a big fundraiser or something that happens once a year? Something you can plug to maybe get people stirred up?
**Mike Huntley:** So we do an annual fundraiser every year. It usually happens at the end of April and we haven't secured the date quite yet, but we do an annual gala and it's kind of a festive celebration of our accomplishments. We're going to try and do a better job of getting word out. In fact, part of our plan is to make sure that all the city councils know about it and we'll ask if you can help spread the word through any announcements that you make. The next one won't be until April of 2026.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Sure.
**Mike Huntley:** However, if anybody would like to donate prior to that on our website, we've made it very, very easy for people to make individual donations. They don't have to wait until our gala.
[15:06] **Councilmember Katie Hill:** So, I have a question just about how your services are used. Is it strictly through the police department? Then they would connect the youth with you, or can a parent reach out to you if they need the service?
**Mike Huntley:** Yes. Um yes, thank you. That's a wonderful question. The primary referral source for our diversion services is through law enforcement.
[15:32] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Can you explain exactly what you mean by diversion services?
**Mike Huntley:** Yes, diversion is an alternative to the traditional juvenile justice system. So, um can I take a few more minutes?
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Yes.
**Mike Huntley:** Maybe I will go 15.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Yeah, maybe you will. You're only on about 10.
**Mike Huntley:** All right. Good. Um, here's an example. If a young person got caught at a store shoplifting and it's the first time they got caught, we all know—well, they probably don't have to go to court and be on probation and use up all those legal resources, right? That's where we would like the police, if they're called out to the store, to refer directly to Youth Service Bureau. We'll run the kid and a parent together through a diversion service. In that case, we do have a theft awareness program and the young person might also do some community work service hours. The purpose of diversion is not to have kids walk away feeling bad. It's to help increase their awareness that they made a bad decision, but they can fix it and they can still belong in the community.
[16:41] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** That's great.
**Mike Huntley:** And that's where we get the 94%. That is a diversion measure, which we're really excited about.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Yeah. Wonderful. Thanks for explaining that.
**Mike Huntley:** Any other questions?
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Thank you. Thanks for coming. And you're in the consent agenda tonight. So, we will approve that tonight.
**Mike Huntley:** Very good. Well, thank you so much. We appreciate your support.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Absolutely. Thanks for visiting.
**Mike Huntley:** Thank you.
[17:28] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Anyone else here for something other than what's on the agenda? Even if there's someone in the hallway. No. Okay. Just checking. All right. So, um we'll move on to the consent agenda. We're going to consider a resolution adopting items 1 through 15: the June 2nd city council workshop minutes, the regular minutes from June 2nd, and then also the June 23rd city council special meeting minutes, June payables and receipts, June building, plumbing, mechanical, and zoning permits report, the service contract with Youth Service Bureau, awarding a quote for ash tree removal and for ash tree replacement, hiring of Chris Jennings as full-time fire chief, pay application number two from Dressel Contracting for the Point Road Culvert Replacement Project, Bayport Fire Relief Association approval of the SC25 form, special event application from Not Just a Bar and Cafe for a customer appreciation anniversary party on July 26th, temporary liquor license from the Stillwater Knights of Columbus for the Anderson Picnic on August 9th at Lakeside, a temporary liquor license from Bayport American Legion for the St. Charles Festival on September 14th at Perro Park, and a temporary liquor license from Bayport American Legion for Derby Days on September 19th at Perro Park for Party in the Park. Um, do we have a motion to approve the consent agenda?
[18:50] **Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** I'll move to adopt a resolution approving the consent agenda as presented.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Thank you.
**Councilmember Katie Hill:** I'll second.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Thanks, Ethan and Katie. Roll call, please.
[18:50] **Matt Kline:** Council member Bliss.
**Councilmember Carl Bliss:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Gilmore.
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Dah.
**Councilmember John Dah:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Hill.
**Councilmember Katie Hill:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Mayor Hansen.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Aye.
[19:06] **Councilmember John Dah:** Does that include the additional $50 that the contract—?
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Okay. I was trying to get there. Yeah, it says 1,750.
**Councilmember John Dah:** Okay.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Yeah, I know. I took a long time to find it, too. It's right after all the payables and receipts and stuff.
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** So, did we just hire our first full-time fire chief?
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Yes, we did.
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** Yeah, we did.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Kind of a big deal. We all had a chance to meet with him, too. So, welcome aboard, Chris, if you're watching. I'm sure you aren't.
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** Sorry, Jay. Not—
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** You never know.
**Police Chief Jay Jackson:** Maybe I'll watch it later. You never know. Access the police—
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** You said police—
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** I started two and then—
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Oh, okay. No, we already have one of those and we're good with him. So, all right. There aren't any public hearings or unfinished business. So, we're moving on to new business.
[19:59] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Consider a resolution for variances to allow grading on steep slopes and allow encroachment into the 40ft bluff line setback for a single-family home remodel/reconstruction project at 13 Point Road submitted by Bruce Lenzen Design. Sarah's going to present this item. Harrison, can I get the projector, please?
[20:22] **City Planner Sara Taylor:** Thank you. The property is zoned R1 single family estate and presently guided for residential use by the comprehensive plan. It is also located within the lower St. Croix River Shoreland and Bluffland and floodplain management districts. The property currently consists of a single-family home. It's surrounded by a mixture of residential uses and the St. Croix River to the east. The existing house is considered substandard because it does not meet dimensional standards of the riverway ordinance, specifically the 40-foot setback from slopes greater than 12%—those are defined as bluff lines. The existing house also does not meet the minimum elevation requirements of the floodplain ordinance because it was constructed with areas below the regulatory flood protection elevation.
The proposed project involves bringing in fill to elevate the site above the base flood elevation. The project also intends to alter and enlarge the dwelling to allow for additional living space, garage, and an outdoor entertainment area. It should be noted that as proposed, the project meets impervious coverage, setback, and height requirements, and considerable efforts have been made to preserve existing trees as well as manage stormwater erosion control and minimize visual impacts using site-sensitive design and natural materials.
As staff has outlined in the report, variances to allow grading on slopes greater than 12% and encroachment into the 40-foot setback are reasonable, justified, and in keeping with the intent of the ordinance. The defined bluff to be impacted by construction of the proposed house is man-made and resulting from the initial construction upon the property. As a result, the topography has created a bluff line which prohibits adding the necessary fill to bring the property into compliance with the floodplain regulations. It also should be noted that the grading plan has been designed to balance compliance with both the floodplain and bluff line protections. For these reasons, staff finds that the criteria set forth by state statute for variances has been met and is recommending approval of the application with the conditions listed in the staff report. The planning commission held a public hearing on this application on June 23rd and no public comments were received. Following discussion, the planning commission voted to approve the application subject to the findings of fact and conditions of approval recommended by staff. At this time, I'd be happy to take any questions from the city council and also the applicant, Bruce Lenzen, is present and available for questions.
[22:55] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Thanks, Sarah. Welcome. Um, seems very straightforward and it was great that there wasn't any public comment and the planning commission didn't really have any questions or concerns either. So I don't have any. Do you guys?
**Councilmember John Dah:** So we discussed these projects at WMO so—
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Oh, you're already aware of these things. Yeah. And I know staff spends a lot of time with his staff and Dan and dealing with all of it. So, um I don't have anything to add. So, I'm open to a motion if anybody's—unless someone wants to talk about something. You're here. Did you want to say anything? Is there anything you need to say or want to say? You're welcome to.
**Applicant (Bruce Lenzen):** Pretty straightforward.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like it's going to be a great improvement to that property.
[23:34] **Councilmember John Dah:** I would just for everybody here, I'm the city's representative on the Middle St. Croix Watershed and some of our other communities along the river. Some of these projects have gone wrong in certain ways. So, I just would hope that everybody keeps doing things on the up and up in Bayport for sure, but some of our neighbors to the south have troubles sometimes with the contractors following what's laid out in black and white for them.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Okay.
**Councilmember John Dah:** Just making that clear for everybody. So, thank you for that. Other than that, I'm prepared to make a motion. I'll move to adopt a resolution approving a variance to allow grading on steep slopes and a variance to allow encroachment into the 40-foot bluff line setback for a single-family home remodel reconstruction project located at 13 Point Road subject to the findings of fact and conditions of approval.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Thanks. I'll second.
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** Thanks, Ethan.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Bliss.
**Councilmember Carl Bliss:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Gilmore.
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Dah.
**Councilmember John Dah:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Hill.
**Councilmember Katie Hill:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Mayor Hansen.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Aye. Motion approved. Thank you. Thanks for coming out. Good luck.
**Applicant (Bruce Lenzen):** These two are amazing.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Oh, good to hear. That's great. Yes. We agree. Thank you for pointing that out. It's nice to get good feedback sometimes. Well, that's awesome to hear. Thank you. Have a good evening. Take care.
[25:31] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Okay. Next, we're going to consider a resolution for variances to extend the roof line, allow grading on steep slopes, and allow encroachment into the 40ft bluff line setback and a conditional use permit to allow alternative flood proofing methods (piers) to elevate the existing single family home and remodel/reconstruction project located at 10 Point Road. This has been submitted by Kell Architects and Sarah is here to present.
[26:06] **Sara Taylor:** Thank you, Madam Mayor. The property is zoned R1 single family estate and presently guided for residential use by the comprehensive plan. It's also located within the lower St. Croix River Shoreland and Bluffland and floodplain management areas. The property currently consists of a primary single-family home and a secondary single-family guest house, which is slated for demolition as part of the project. The property is surrounded by a mixture of residential uses and the St. Croix River mostly on all directions except for the north. It's on the end of the point there.
The existing single-family dwelling to remain is a legal non-conforming structure with regards to floodplain regulations and bluff setback requirements. The proposed project involves modifying and elevating the existing home above the base flood elevation with the use of alternative flood proofing methods in the form of engineered piers, which requires a conditional use permit to allow for additional living space within the existing footprint of the dwelling. The roof line of the attached garage is proposed to increase in height but in compliance with the 35 ft requirement; because portions of the existing home are considered non-conforming, a variance is required to allow for this expansion.
Other components of the project include variances to allow grading on steep slopes and allow encroachment into the 40ft bluff line setback for similar reasons and topography cited in the application for 13 Point Road. It should be noted that as proposed the project significantly reduces the impervious coverage well below the 20% and meets other setback and height requirements. As with the project for 13 Point Road, considerable efforts have been made to preserve existing trees as well as manage storm water, control erosion, and minimize visual impacts using site-sensitive design and natural materials.
Staff finds the criteria set forth by state statute for variances has been met. Also, the proposed piers are an accepted alternative flood proofing method defined by the floodplain ordinance which qualify for a conditional use permit. Staff is recommending approval of the application with the conditions listed in the staff report. The planning commission did hold a public hearing on June 23rd and no public comments were received. Following discussion, the planning commission did vote to approve that application. The property owner and architect are also here for questions.
[29:19] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Awesome. Thanks again, Sarah. Um the design is just beautiful. Yeah, I commend you folks for taking a structure that really blends in. It looks like it's going to be just a fantastic project and sort of something that should be held up to other people that live along the river to create something that blends in and isn't super ostentatious. And um you guys nailed it and it's fantastic.
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** Definitely an upgrade.
**Councilmember Carl Bliss:** It's notable how few comments we got from WMO and the DNR. We usually hear quite a bit from them.
**Applicant (Kell Architects):** We worked very hard.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Yes. Well, good for you. You did a great job to be able to reach a really healthy project.
**Councilmember Katie Hill:** Yeah. And the letter was very inspiring from Kell—the narrative about it just, you know, that you're trying to make it a healthy, durable, energy-efficient, all those things. It's low impact and it looks like it's all of those things.
**Applicant (Kell Architects):** And all that inspiration is from the homeowner. We're just trying to create something that's buildable in that way.
**Councilmember Katie Hill:** Yeah. I don't think I realized it was still a part of the Hulings family either until I read that. That's special.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Yeah. Yeah. The historic thing is great, too. So, the only question I had is how the this pier system works differently?
[30:57] **Matt Kline:** Madam Mayor, you don't know—our city engineer was supposed to be here for that very question, but maybe someone from the architecture firm?
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Would you mind just coming here so people that are watching can hear you? Thank you. You want to introduce yourself?
**Megan Kell:** Yes. I'm Megan Kell of Kell Architects. Um, and Jason Anie of Anie Landscape Design is here too. So, um, we've worked for a long time on this project to have it come into fruition to this point. Uh, there's more work to be done to get it buildable, but here we go. Um, so the pier—I wouldn't necessarily call it a pier system throughout this process. It's a little more of—I would call them shafts. So they are raising the building up. Um there's multiple shafts that are supporting the building. And these shafts are really going to be designed to reduce the static pressure of the water. So we're not trying to fully foundation wall the whole perimeter of the building. We'd rather reduce that static pressure so that the water can flow underneath it as it ebbs and flows throughout seasons. So that's the point of that.
[32:11] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Okay. Very smart. All right. Thanks for explaining that. Anyone else have questions or comments? Anyone itching to make a motion?
**Councilmember Carl Bliss:** I'll move to adopt a resolution approving variances to extend the roof line, allow grading of steep slopes, and allowing encroachment of the 40ft bluff line setback and a conditional use permit to allow the alternative flood proofing methods to elevate the existing single family home—I picked a long one—and remodel reconstruction project located at 10 Point Road subject to findings of fact and conditions of approval.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Nice. Nicely done.
**Councilmember John Dah:** Second.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Thanks, John. All right. Roll call.
[32:56] **Matt Kline:** Council member Bliss.
**Councilmember Carl Bliss:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Gilmore.
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Dah.
**Councilmember John Dah:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Hill.
**Councilmember Katie Hill:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Mayor Hansen.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Aye.
**Councilmember John Dah:** No, just congratulations and best wishes on your project.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Yeah, great.
**Applicant (Kell Architects):** We appreciate it.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Yeah. Thank you. We'll give you a minute to take off unless you want to hear the rest of this fun meeting.
**Applicant (Kell Architects):** Oh, and we will second that: Sarah and Matt were great to work with.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Oh, yay. Awesome. Yeah. Thank you guys. Enjoy your new place.
[33:57] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** All right. So next we have another resolution for this one's for a conditional use permit to allow alternative flood proofing methods for the existing single family home and addition project located at 297 Lake Street and it's submitted by Traditional Construction Services. And guess who's going to present? Sarah.
[34:14] **Sara Taylor:** Thank you, Madam Mayor. The property is zoned R2 single family urban and presently guided for residential use by the comprehensive plan. It's also located within the lower St. Croix River shoreline and bluffland and floodplain management areas. The property currently consists of a single family home and is surrounded by a mixture of uses with Lakeside Park to the north, River Park Marina to the west, St. Croix River to the east, and residential uses to the south. The proposed project involves removing the main level of the existing home and relocating it to a vacant lot elsewhere in the city. The existing foundation will be used to support construction of a new home and an expansion is planned to the north of the foundation for garage space. To comply with the floodplain ordinance, alternative wet flood proofing methods in the form of flood vents are proposed for the basement storage area, which requires a conditional use permit.
As proposed, the project complies with impervious coverage and meets setback and height requirements. It should be noted that a significant amount of concrete, bituminous, and gravel rubble will be removed from the site as part of this project, which results in a reduction of impervious by almost 10%. This will result also in significant improvement over the existing conditions and will help to mitigate sentiment from entering the river from storm water runoff. Staff is recommending approval of the application with the conditions listed in the staff report. The planning commission held a public hearing on June 23rd and no public comments were received. I should mention the property owner is unable to be here this evening, but the project was pretty straightforward and we felt comfortable moving ahead and presenting this at this meeting without them present.
[36:18] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Did we lose our video to the public or just us?
**Matt Kline:** Just us.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Okay. All right. Um, thanks for giving us the overview and we again we have everything in our packet. This one was interesting. The tuck-under extra garage entered from the riverside is a unique thing I've never seen before. Sounds like there's going to be a drive through the middle of the house basically underneath. So then they can come around and park things on the other side. So thanks for coming up with that solution. And I know they had too much impervious I believe and then you guys worked with them to figure out a way to reduce that. So they're going to have—basically the way I understand is—just two tire tracks to drive on instead of a whole drive through in that area. So I don't know. I love that you came up with a solution with them. So thank you. Um I'm sure if they were here they'd say that you guys are awesome to work with. Anyone have any questions or comments about this one?
[37:16] **Councilmember Carl Bliss:** Just had one on the DNR's note. They noted that um, impervious surface is reducing from about 30% to about 20% but the plans didn't quite look that way. Any thoughts to their question?
**Sara Taylor:** Madam Mayor, Council Member Bliss, there were several variations of the plan as we work through the project. Um, so what was actually presented to the DNR and the planning commission is different than what you're seeing tonight. And that's because staff worked with the applicant to reduce that impervious.
**Councilmember Carl Bliss:** Right. Thanks.
**Sara Taylor:** Welcome.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Thanks. Anybody else?
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** No. This one's a little shorter. I'll do it. I move to adopt a resolution approving a conditional use permit to allow alternate flood proofing methods for the existing single-family home and addition project located on 297 Lake Street subject to findings of fact and conditions of approval.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Thanks Ethan. I second.
**Councilmember Katie Hill:** Thanks Katie.
[38:26] **Matt Kline:** Council member Bliss?
**Councilmember Carl Bliss:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Gilmore?
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Dah?
**Councilmember John Dah:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Hill?
**Councilmember Katie Hill:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Mayor Hansen?
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Aye. Motion passes. All right.
[38:43] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** On to considering amendments to appendix B zoning of the Bayport city code. This one's related to impervious surface coverage regulations for recreational vehicles and travel trailers and permit fees for small bird/fowl. Oh Sarah, again, please.
[39:03] **Sara Taylor:** Thank you, Madam Mayor. At the direction of the city council, staff has drafted proposed amendments to appendix B zoning of the Bayport city code of ordinances related to impervious surface coverage, recreational vehicles, and travel trailers. Um staff is also proposing an amendment to permit fees for small birds and fowl which has been drafted for consideration.
The first amendments are to section 301 definitions and 601 districts which defines impervious surface noting a 50% impervious surface credit for decks in the R2, R3 and B1 zoning districts with the exception of properties located within the riverway and floodplain overlay districts. Some of the projects that we included tonight would be included in those districts and the properties that have been developed as plan unit development such as Inspiration and or governed by a homeowners association which may have more restrictive covenants. It also clarifies that the maximum lot coverage includes both structures and impervious surface such as bituminous concrete which sometimes is difficult for people to understand.
The second amendment is to section 301 definitions and section 731 recreational vehicle or trailer regulations. This defines recreation camping vehicle and recreational vehicles themselves which kind of follows along with the ordinance that was passed last month on golf carts and ATVs. It also clarifies regulations for quantity, location, duration, and permitted uses. Finally, the third amendment is to section 2729 livestock, and it's just to clarify fees for small bird and fowl permits. The fee is listed within that ordinance, and we want to move it to the fee schedule so it's easier to update. The planning commission reviewed the proposed ordinance amendments at the June 23rd meeting. No public comments were heard and the planning commission recommended approval.
[41:28] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Great. So, we got kind of three different things I guess. Um the first one I just was curious if you could easily define what the difference is between the R districts and why the R1 was different?
**Sara Taylor:** Madam Mayor, I recall the question. Unfortunately, I don't have a recent zoning map to put on the screen but here on the wall—and other people at home might have difficulty seeing it—but the light yellow up in the corner is our only R1 district and that's also included in the shoreland/bluffland and the floodplain ordinance which has a 20% maximum for impervious. So it's confusing to people when they read the ordinance and it says 35% coverage but then you have to look in the riverway and floodplain to see it's actually 20%. So just to simplify the regulations I thought since we were updating this section of the ordinance it might be a good idea.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Perfect. I was wondering why because I thought it had always been 20%. I'm like why are we changing it now? But it's just that it said refer to that and then you would know that it was actually 20. And so the light yellow is basically Point Road, like the whole—
**Sara Taylor:** Correct. And that's the only R1 district. The bright yellow is the R2, which is mostly what downtown is zoned. And then there's just a small section of that orange strip, which is zoned R3 at this point for future development.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Okay.
**Sara Taylor:** B1 also this applies to, which would be the pink parcels identified on the zoning map as well.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Good. So, it's low-impact office use basically and the prison site. Well, I appreciate you're doing it. I know we talked a long time ago about trying to be a little more flexible with our impervious surface calculations and how we thought decks didn't really seem fair to count them as 100% impervious when obviously they're not. So, I appreciate you're looking at this, coming up with some good wording and working through all of that. And then, of course, the other stuff is pretty much just kind of cleaning things up, right, based on recreational vehicles. And then the livestock one is just like a no-brainer.
[44:06] **Councilmember Carl Bliss:** I know that in both an application letter we received tonight and the school project, there was a question about pervious pavements. Does this leave anything open for that or is that just not addressed at all?
**Sara Taylor:** Madam Mayor, Council Member Bliss, we did discuss that internally as staff and I guess our thoughts were that system is just not advanced enough yet to take away the maintenance responsibilities on the property owner and truly make it pervious long term. Um there may be a potential to add that as a credit in the future, but I know other communities—and I think our city engineer commented maybe at the planning commission last month—that it's not really recognized or credited in other communities or by the watershed at this point.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** So I don't know if everyone heard Carl's question, but it was about like pervious pavers that you can—and I think we actually allowed the school district to use some of that for a very small part of their parking lot, but they have the equipment to actually manage it. So, that's why we let that count. I think they were just within a few percentage points without that. Yeah. So, good question though. Thanks. These are good cleanup items and I think it's a fourth no-brainer today. I'm ready to make a motion unless anybody else has something. Anything from planning commission that you need to add or anything? Okay. All right. Good. Go for it.
[45:58] **Councilmember John Dah:** I'll move to adopt amendments to appendix B zoning of the Bayport city code of ordinances related to impervious surface coverage regulations for recreational vehicles and travel trailers and permit fees for small bird fowl as presented.
**Councilmember Katie Hill:** I second.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Bliss.
**Councilmember Carl Bliss:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Gilmore.
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Dah.
**Councilmember John Dah:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Hill.
**Councilmember Katie Hill:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Mayor Hansen.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Aye. Motion passes again. Now let's move on to considering amendments to appendix D the fee schedule in the code of ordinances. And Matt's going to present.
[46:20] **Matt Kline:** I'm only presenting because Sarah did all of them. Which is true. Well, she did the whole workshop while you were showing me lunch now. She did give me the smallest one though. So, again, this one is pretty straightforward. Just updating the fee schedule on two of them: for the animals up to four animals per property—previously, that was in the actual zoning ordinance, we moved it to the fee schedule—and the golf cart, it was decided on $50 per year, so that's being added. We've actually had people coming in already and asking for what do I need to do to register my golf cart. So, it's definitely making its way around. And then the permit for right-of-way. So in Bayport and most other cities, we charge utility companies and people who need to use our right-of-way—Excel Energy—for the ability to put stuff there. We charge them an amount and then a fee for an inspection. So before these were separated out, we just combined them for ease of use on our end.
[47:52] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Okay, straightforward, I guess. But a lot of small bird and fowl here in—
**Matt Kline:** Well, it used to be you only had get to have two chickens, I suppose. You paid $25 for up to two and now it's up to four. It's a bargain.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Yeah, I like that. Um, okay. It all makes sense to me.
**Councilmember John Dah:** All right. I'll move to adopt amendments to appendix D fee schedule of the Bayport City Code of Ordinances.
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** Second.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Thank you guys. Ethan and Carl. One more roll call.
[48:30] **Matt Kline:** Council member Gilmore.
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Bliss.
**Councilmember Carl Bliss:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Dah.
**Councilmember John Dah:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Council member Hill.
**Councilmember Katie Hill:** Aye.
**Matt Kline:** Mayor Hansen.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Aye. Motion passes.
[48:46] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Your condition. All right. Um, city council liaison reports. Katie, you want to start?
**Councilmember Katie Hill:** Yeah. So, um, BCAL did not have a meeting last month. It's coming up on Thursday this week that I'll go to. And then the planning commission—most of them we talked about already. There was no one that spoke at the public hearing for any of the homes or the ordinances that we changed. The only one that we didn't hear of was Bay Haven and they talked about their development. Um they have a new person that's doing the apartments: At Home Apartments. They're the developer, builder, and the property manager. So they do it all. It will be about 70 units in that apartment building. Studio, one-bedroom, and two-bedroom. And the parking is still going to be the same. The only concerns that planning commission had with Bay Haven was really the traffic for everybody going in and out only on one street. But the engineer said that wasn't going to be a problem because the traffic is going to be minimal.
[50:22] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Okay, great. And we will be reviewing that at some point in the future. We just don't have all the ducks in a row yet for it to be at the final stage for us. Thank you. Um John, did watershed meet and you had all those things to look at?
**Councilmember John Dah:** And you guys saw the result of a good portion of our meeting last month. All about Bayport last month. There were a few problems that happened to our neighbors to the south. These people come in with this equipment and you know, when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. They get aggressive with these big pieces of equipment and they do irreversible damage. So, I guess what I would say is if people have questions on these projects going on, reach out to the city. It's people seeing things that are how these things get reported because we're not down there monitoring them every day, but the neighbors can see what's happening. Hopefully people are doing everything on the up and up. And it seems like our projects, we don't tend to have those problems in our town for whatever reason.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** We're very scary. That's why.
**Councilmember John Dah:** That's probably a feather in the cap to our staff and just our city. And there will not be a meeting this month, but we do have a workshop on the river coming up.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Oh, is anyone going to that? It's in Taylor Falls.
**Councilmember Carl Bliss:** I think it's the 30th.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** 30th. Sound great. I'm glad a couple of you are able to go.
**Councilmember John Dah:** It is the 30th. Yep. 30th at 5:30 in Taylor's Falls.
[51:50] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** How fun. Ethan and the cable commission?
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** Uh the cable commission did not meet, but I do have a little bit to report. They had a massive flood in the new building. They had some sort of water line break and the fire department was out there. They had to break holes in the wall, the foundation, to get the drain—I mean, it was a pretty big nightmare. So, I haven't heard anything else beyond that, um, when we'll be able to be back in there and how much the damage is going to be. So, this is just the last email I got from her.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** So, hopefully insurance is going to cover whatever. Okay. Good luck with that. That'll be a process. Thank you, Ethan. And Carl, you've got Airport Advisory?
[53:06] **Councilmember Carl Bliss:** Yeah, we met. It's a group that's made up of half airport users, half local municipalities. Commissioner Cox actually presented some capital improvement plan information that kind of affects the airport. Some of it was notable and it'll affect us as we commute as well, including 2026-2027 Lake Elmo Avenue and 36 construction that we'll all experience.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Oh yeah, they're putting Lake Elmo Avenue under 36 basically.
**Councilmember Carl Bliss:** Uh yeah, that's right. An underpass. And then noise complaints continue to be an issue from a small number of properties around the airport.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Okay. All right. Thank you, Carl.
[54:01] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Um let's see. I think were all of us at the ice cream social? That was a long time ago. Thank you all for being there. Bayport Community Action League invited us to go scoop ice cream. And I swear I had the hardest one. I also had the chance to attend Mayor McComber's funeral. It was very nice. Um that was on the 6th. Our fire department—I don't know if PD was there, too—but they participated in a drive. They escorted her through Oak Park Heights after, which was really sweet.
I went to a regional council of mayors twice since we last met. On the 9th of June, it was about water conservation. Interesting to hear how some of the larger cities have systems where they can literally alert someone if they're racking up a high bill. Matt and I talked a little bit about how we can do better at that. Went to the fire relief on the 9th. Matt and I also had a chance to meet with the fire advisory group—representatives from the other communities where we offer fire services. Matt's working on getting some good speakers for us so we can get some more background on what might be a good way for us to go with joint powers. Um, we did fire chief second interview, so hired the fire chief. Um, tonight, we all did the budget workshop. Jill does such a great job summarizing the library board in our packet. Um, let's see. I met with County Commissioner Bethany Cox. She is really good about reaching out and making sure she knows what's going on in all of her cities. Matt and I had fun meeting with a resident about chemical use on city property and we're doing the best we can to keep reducing all the herbicides. Groundbreaking for the new Lakeview Hospital was a huge crowd. And I did a bunch of chamber events. Sunrise Rotary had their 40th anniversary. And I just want to take a minute to just say how cool it is that Bayport has two restaurants that were named in the Star Tribune’s "30 Restaurants Most Vital to the Twin Cities": Olio and Manger made the list.
[59:56] **Councilmember Carl Bliss:** Well, both of those restaurants are absolutely amazing.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** They are. It's ridiculous that we have two restaurants of that kind. I know. We are so fortunate. So um yeah, I just wanted to give them a shout out. That's it. And staff reports?
**Matt Kline:** In the interest of time, we should just skip them. Sarah doesn't want to talk.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** We've been here so long. Did you have something quick to say about safety camp?
[1:00:47] **Police Chief Jay Jackson:** Um, to answer your question, Mayor, for Mary McComber’s funeral, we assisted with the traffic control. We shut off intersections at the request of the police chief. So, we were there, just not so much in the actual escort. Couple things to put out there: the speed sign is out currently. If you would like it in your neighborhood, shoot me an email and we will add you to the list. Do keep in mind that the location the speed trailer is at is not always where the speeders are going to be—meaning, sometimes the sign is two or three blocks away because we want to get the speeders that are going by your house. So just keep that in mind. Um, the big thing is we are in the middle of safety camp right now. Today was very successful. Tomorrow looking like the weather's going to cooperate. Um, Night to Unite is August 5th. We are currently accepting donations for raffle items. Hopefully, everyone will come out and say hello. I will stand for questions.
[1:03:02] **Mayor Michele Hanson:** Thank you. You're free to go.
**Matt Kline:** Madame Mayor, both Sarah and I will yield to questions. Pretty much all our stuff had been covered tonight.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** Okay. Does anyone have any questions or would you like to make a motion?
**Councilmember Katie Hill:** Move to second.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** All right. Thanks. All in favor?
**Councilmembers:** Aye.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** All right. Woohoo. 1 hour.
**Deputy Mayor Ethan Gilmore:** Did it in 1 hour before the bells were done.
**Mayor Michele Hanson:** That is impressive.