Wichita City Council Meeting June 11, 2024

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e [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] welcome to City Hall and good morning to to all  of you we'll call this meeting to order with us   today is Pastor Joel Alford of bethl Life Center  Church to provide our invocation following that   invocation we will have the Pledge of Allegiance  and we invite you for both to stand up pastor hord join me in prayer Heavenly Father we come before  you today with grateful hearts for the privilege   of serving our community we thank you for  the dedication and commitment of mewo and   the council members as they work to improve the  lives of people in Witchita grant them wisdom   discernment and use Unity as a deliberate on the  matters at hand guide their decisions with your   Divine Insight uring that their choices promote  justice peace prosperity for all residents help   them to act with Integrity compassion and fairness  considering the needs and wellbe beinging of every   individual in our city we pray for the continued  growth and development of wiah bless our leaders   with the strength and perseverance to face  challenges and the vision to seize opportunities   that will benefit our community may their efforts  Foster a spirit of cooperation and Harmony among   all citizens Lord Jesus we ask for your protection  and guidance over our city keep our community   safe and help us support one another with  kindness and respect in your holy name we pray amen Al app the United States of  America and to the Republic for   which it stands one nation  God indivisible jusice for all thank you again Pastor hord Madame clerk please call the first item   approve the minutes of the  regular meeting of June 4th 2024 do we have approval of the minutes  for June 4th 2024 or any correction or changes I move to approve as present second Motion   in a second any further discussion I  see none Madame clerk please open the roll motion passes 70 Madame clerk please call  the next item Maria peska complete Gaza ceasefire is Maria here Madame clerk please call the next item  Mary Dean stance on reparations ordinance greetings mayor ladies and gentlemen of the  Witchita uh Council esteemed members of the   city Law Department city manager and members  of the city's diversity inclusion and civil   rights Advisory Board I stand before you today to  address a matter that has been pending for more   than 60 days the establishment of a fully funded  commission to study reparations in witch for black   residents this delay has not gone unnoticed and  it is imperative that we understand the reasons   behind it the request for reparations uh for a  reparations commission was brought forward by   local Act acist and president of Kansas Justice  Advocate Inc Mary Dean which is me who has been   advocating for the rights of people for over 40  years she emphasized the historical injustices   faced by the black community and the critical  crucial role such as a commission would play in   addressing systemic disparities there are there is  there are pro Power Point presentation I'm sorry   explaining uh with guest Kansas City Missouri  attorney Mickey Dean and Mary Dean on her YouTube   channel to explain what reparations is and is  all about the establishment of this commission   is not just about financial compensation it is  about restoring dignity providing opportunities   for advancement and fostering an environment  where every resident can Thrive it is about   acknowledging the past and taking concrete steps  toward a more Equitable future the delay in   decision making can be attributed to several  F factors the complexity of the issue requir   careful consideration and thorough examination  the language of the ordinance proposal needed   to be reviewed by the legal department  to ensure it aligns with the city's laws   and recognation res res regulations sorry  which I understand the ordinance has been   through the law department for review since  February the 5th 2024 however it is crucial   that you do not let these complexities hinder  progress the longer you wait the longer you   Justice to those who have been wrong for decades  and now it is your responsibility as Leaders to   guide witch towards a path of progress and  equality I urge you to expedite the process   and decide on establishing uh the establishment of  this commission let witch join other cities that   have taken bold steps toward making amends  for past wrongs let Witcher show that it is   committed to progress equality and justice for  all thank you I'm here for questions I'd like to   understand what's going on council member Johnson  thanks mayor thank you Elder Dean um I agree with   you that um there are some complexities there  and this is something that is truly important   um I don't really have a answer on that as we've  been working on that we do have um most of the   ordinance proposal done it's not complete just yet  um but I do think at this point uh it would be a   good time to send all of that to the diversity  inclusion and civil rights Advisory Board one of   the challenges um there is that that board is also  going through some Rejuvenation so there's a lot   of new members there and I know that you want this  to be an expedited process uh I believe all of the   appointments have been made to that board if not  a majority of them um but as of today if there's   no objection we could move that everything gets  presented to them at their next meeting or their   meeting in August and they can begin to debate  and look at not only what that ordinance looks   like but the complexities to be addressed um  one of the easiest things to highlight is the   red lining that happened in this city there's a  lot of equity issues with that which to was the   third most Redline city in the country that's  something that they could um look at as far as   affordable housing um opportunities for investment  things of that nature um but again I think um that   would probably be the quickest route to go and  we could do that as of today but again it would   be presented to them at their meeting you'd be  welcome to go it's a public meeting you could   talk to them about the importance of that you  could share the materials that you've sent to   us uh with them as well so they kind of know  the background on that and help them craft uh   what will ultimately be present present it to the  council is that something that you would like to   participate in uh absolutely uh so you're saying  their next meeting is in August no they meet once   a month I don't know right now because I don't  have it up on my screen so I I don't know when   their next meeting is they could get that at the  next meeting part of the challenge that I said   to you is that there's a bunch of new members so  they're also learning what that board is supposed   to do at this point so if we present it to them  at the next meeting and they don't have their   footing just yet it may take a little bit longer  which is why I said July or August okay I would   like to participate in that uh you know at that  meeting I'd like to be there uh I'd like to ask   the question have uh all of you receiv received  the letters that have came in and that I sent to   you that supports uh witch creating a commission  have you received those letters uh i' like to   thank you for that so I'm hoping and praying that  councilman Johnson and my councilman hole that uh   that this process uh I'm not going to say Speedy  because you know I'm I want it to be expedited   because I think we waited a a long time uh to  get some kind of decision on a commission a fully   funded commission uh I've also submitted addendums  uh when I submitted the ordinance to show how to   support that and who can support that as well  so I'm looking forward to the next steps when   it comes to the ordinance and I will be looking  forward for someone to contact me uh to attend   that meeting okay Dante do you know when the  next meeting is thank you um Madame mayor council   member Johnson the district uh excuse me I get  my words confused the diversity inclusion civil   rights Advisory Board meets the third Tuesday of  every month uh so the next meeting is actually   next week which will be a bit soon to your point  council member Johnson uh the board will meet   July 16th as and August 20th I can work with Mike  Irving he's the staff Le is on to the board and   make sure that Elder Dean is in the loop as far as  the development of an agenda item okay thank you n   time so you'll send me an email someone will send  me an email yes we will okay thank you well thank you madam the next it Andrew crane Transportation access  for the disabled community and   blind community and sidewalk access along the river good morning Andrew crane uh 250 West  Douglas Avenue in downtown Witchita um I am   wanting to address you guys today um the access  Advisory Board um uh had a letter and uh the State   House on the the big um problem um that disabled  and blind individuals are facing right now um is   the the the big long list um which that list is  um that the state of Kansas uh did uh did um get   fixed um and and that but we still have lots  of work to do um and when you guys address the   the state house or the next time that you guys go  up to the state house make sure to mention um on   the um on the uh the disabled uh list for services  um and and that um blind and disabled folks need   services in the the state of Kansas and  in Witchita um there is a big problem on   different Services here um and it it was was in  the uh the newspaper and also we got a uh another   letter from the the state house too so please take  a look at that and uh and that and uh when is your   guys's next uh meeting with your um government  uh person that's uh in toeka is what I want to know council member hoisel thank you mayor are  you talking about um getting something on the   legislative agenda for okay we we are in contact  with our our Comm staff is in contact with us so   during the year we come up with issues that pop  up like this and uh we decide to push forward   put it on our legislative agenda for next session  so we're in contact with him somewhat regularly   when when do you guys get to uh meet meet with  them um here in Witchita so we can actually you   know voice voice our opinion because the access  Advisory Board is mad as mad can be and uh you   know this the the list that folks are on is  needs to be byebye um and in that and you you   guys need to be able to uh work on that and  to help the disabled and blind community in   in in the great state of Kansas um and and that  and I'm a well-known blind individual and I I'm   actually on that list and I I am still on that  list and it's going to be a long time since my   my number comes up folks as as far as discussing  policy with um our state legislators It's usually   the end of the year after elections uh there's  a number of legislators who might not be around   after elections this time so usually in the fall  they start having legislative forums uh December   early January before they go back to to uh to  the session okay hold if we can if we can get   a meeting with them that that would be fantastic  because I would like to voice my opinion and I   would like to go up there with you guys um at at  the state house and address this well I'll let   you know when the meetings will be thank you  thank you vice mayor Ballard thank you mayor   Andrew I just had a question and uh council  member hoisel touched on it a little but what   do you think the missing piece is is the missing  piece having the right people at the table with   the Blind and Visually Impaired or are you not  getting invited to talk to the right people or   what what would you what is an idea of what  a solution could be for you because I know   how active you are obviously in the community but  what is what is your idea of the missing link the   The Missing Link is uh we I I think we all need  to work together on uh helping the the disabled   and blind Community out um and one uh one of  the things is the you're you're exactly right   the right people need to be at the table and uh  and that and we also need to invite a lot of the   access Advisory Board because that that board you  know goes back to to you guys and and that to get   things going here in Witchita for the disabled and  blind Community um and that and I'm on that access   Advisory Board I serve proudly um on that board  and we we just need to come together as as one   and work together to get this done I appreciate  end with Transportation also I agree thank you so   much for serving on these boards and advocating  and all help with council member hoisel to make   sure that uh you learn when we go down to TOA  thank you or up TOA thank you Madame clerk   please call the next item Marsha Ultraman Capital  Improvement funding requests for the Golf Board of Governors good morning I'm marshia alterman 8615  East Champion Street in Witchita I'm also one of   the representatives on the Witchita Golf Board of  Governors uh first for the records I'd appreciate   it if the spelling of my first name could get  corrected in for the minutes it's mcia so would   appreciate that uh and thank you for allowing me  to take a few minutes to address the council I was   fortunate enough to be part of the interview  committee when the wise decision was made to   hire Jesse Kaufman as the Director of golf  and I want to commend Jesse and the various   course professionals and the staff for their work  over the past two years uh there have been many   great strides made at the golf courses through  their dedication and hard work and I just don't   want that to go unmentioned or unnoticed as a  rep on the uh Board of Governors I've learned   more than I ever thought I would about growing  and maintaining Turf about irrigation systems   Clubhouse management and overall creating success  in this industry before being on the board I was   just one of those golfers who was very passionate  about playing the sport but I really had no idea   what it takes to make a golf course work and to be  honest I was sometimes one of those who complained   about the course conditions especially when the  grass was thin or non-existent since good tur   is the main stay of a golf course Witchita has an  outstanding Park system and our four golf courses   are an integral part of that the parks and in  particular the golf courses are a reflection   of the excellent quality of life that Witchita  can be proud of but with that in mind there is a   fundamental obligation to maintain and support  those parks golf courses and green spaces a   functional irrigation system is possibly the most  important part of the maintenance of a golf course   the United States Golf Association states that  the expected life of an irrigation system is   between 15 and 30 years but the system at Sim  Golf Course is 38 years old and the youngest   Golf Course Auburn Hills has an irrigation system  that is 26 years old clearly it's already late in   the game to initiate a plan to revitalize the  existing systems only through the hard work and   creativity of the present and past staff are we  even limping by at our courses and that's barely   limping by so I'm here today to ask the council  members to seriously consider the funding plan   that has been submitted by the Board of Governors  to finance these improvements over a number of   years the initial part of the plan is to start  on the Sim irrigation system as soon as possible   before that course is simply not functional the  estimates that the staff has received so far are   between 1.5 and two 2 million per course and the  details of the submitted plan plan explain the   balance between the requested Capital Improvement  funding and the supplemental funds that will come   directly from the golf division budget we  realize these numbers are significant but   an irrigation system that works is vital to the  courses not having good Turf on the golf courses   is like not having Nets on the tennis courts back  stops at the ball diamonds or flowers at Botanica   and there are paybacks to a good irrigation  system there will be significant Savings in lab   costs when the Band-Aid approach is no longer  being used and the maintenance Crews can devote   time and energy to actual productivity instead  of constantly putting out fires a more efficient   irrigation system will actually use significantly  less water one consultant informed us that Sim   would have saved about 10 million gallons in  2023 with a new system lower utility bills will   result from a modern Pump Station and the cost of  fertilizer will actually be reduced with a system   that delivers appropriate water placement in spite  of the current concerns over course conditions our   courses are finding some successes there has  been significant increases in the past three   years and uh a number of pro I'm sorry a number of  improvement projects have been paid for from the   golf budget the courses are attracting corporate  and fundraiser tournaments which expose even the   most casual or occasional golfer to the benefits  of golf golf is a lifetime Sport and the efforts   that we're making to to attract Junior golfers  High School tournaments Collegiate events and yet   still invite seniors to our courses are all paying  off but in order for the courses to continue to   survive and attract people to this aspect of our  beautiful city the golf division needs support   for this major expenditure that's been postponed  for years the scope of Witchita golf is wide the   golf courses serve more citizens than just the  dedicated three times a week golfer so as you   address your upcoming budget plans please give the  submitted request for the CIP funding your support   a good number of con your constituents realize  the importance of this project as evidenced by   the golfers that are here today in support and  as always the golf division staff and the Board   of Governors are available to you if there are any  questions or concerns thank you and I'll take any   questions or comments council member Johnston  Marsha thank you for coming and speaking also   being an avid goer I'm in your court so indeed so  to speak I hear um I agree that Jesse sitting in   the audience has done an absolutely great job his  involvement in and getting more Juniors and women   playing golf is commendable and and just a great  effort in doing that so I also think that our we   are focusing a lot on maintenance on taking  care of the things we've got uh the four golf   courses are a tremendous asset to our community  uh it helps in recruitment of of for employers   to recruit people to witto and to keep people in  witchet TOS so it's a very important asset and we   do need to take care of so thank you for your  efforts I appreciate those comments thank you   very much vice mayor Ballard thank you mayor  Marsha thank you for being here I too got to   sit on the panel to hire Jesse that has done an  incredible job and you know I am not a golfer but   um I represent Sims and I know how important um  the golf course is to our community and I learned   that during the election in worked really hard to  not privatize our public courses and Jesse's done   a fantastic job of improving the club houses  getting new golf carts um and a million other   things also encouraging more people to golf and  more often so excuse me more people are playing   golf than they have in years maybe decades and I  think it is incredibly important to um pay attent   you can't play golf if we don't have grass so um  I would hate to spend all of that money and make   all these improvements and then not have the grass  to actually play golf on so um I am definitely in   support of trying to figure out a way um and I  appreciate that the board is willing to do some   type of match um just to get this started so um  I just wanted to publicly show my support I think   it's incredibly important and um thank you so much  for coming and raise your hand if you play on the   public horses and you're here wonderful thank you  all for taking the time to be here and Jesse thank   you for everything thank you madam clerk please  call the next item oh sorry uh council member   glas thank you mayor this is not about the last  uh speaker but this is about the public agenda   um as a whole I was just seeing when we had had  comments regarding reforms to the public agenda   process and I was interested to see when that  might be coming back before Council for a vote um council member that ordinance  drafting is still in process we're   getting input from different sources  and what that could look like at this   time so we should probably have that  couple weeks okay sounds good thank you Madame clerk please call the next  item consent agenda items 1 through 15 council members are  there any items to be pulled Madame mayor I would like to  pull item number seven just for discussion is there a motion to approve agenda  items minus number seven so moved second motion   and a second any further discussion you  see none Madame clerk please uh open the role motion passes 70 we're going to discuss  agenda item sent agenda item number seven   council member Glascock yes thank you Madame  mayor um this would be a question for staff   just given I know that this is our next agenda  item so maybe we move consent agenda item number   seven to after number new Council business item  number one but just given uh the school board's   delay I didn't know if we would talk about the um  agreement amendment in conjunction with that and   if this would change um our I mean really our  discussion for number one might have bearing   on this consent AGA item um was my only point  of clarification sir Troy or Dante so council   member Glascock assistant city manager Troy  Anderson is prepared to discuss both as far   as the order uh the council takes the items  up I think Jennifer can provide guidance   whether we bring it the consent item to the new  business agenda or if we keep it on the consent agenda uh council member glasscock tro  Anderson assistant manager uh so while   both of these items do appear on this agenda  um there's some convenience to that but for   all intents of purposes uh the item as part  of the regular agenda may not necessarily   have any bearing on the continued work that our  development partner has done and will need to do   in order to uh continue to strive towards  satisfying the goals and objectives of the   development agreement that we set forth before  them so y I have further questions regarding   this can you please help Community understand and  Council understand the difference between home ARP   dollars versus arpa Revenue replacement  dollars which I guess are two different   buckets of money and two different items but  still talking about homelessness correct so   um so the original development agreement  uh that we entered into with this group   with our development partner um the original  contract uh the funds were being paid for out   of home ARP dollars so originally the home ARP  allocation uh was approximately $5.5 million of   that 5.5 million we can utilize up to 15% of  that for administrative expenses um which is   about $826,000 that 15% has to carry us not only  from sort of concep clear through the project and   even through the 15-year compliance period right  and so to date we have spent about 44,000 of that   826000 um and again that has uh that is more  than just the funds that are attributed to the   development agreement and this partnership there  are uh funds that were expended even back when we   were developing the home ARP allocation plan  advertising staff time so on and so forth so   the $454,000 that I just referenced is not all  attributed to this development agreement uh in   fact only uh a portion of that $454,000 that have  already been spent out of this 15% is really only   attributed to this development agreement this  addendum number one is for services rendered that   were beyond the original scope of the agreement  and so this just allows that development partner   to continue to do the work to try and get to uh  the end goals and objectives that have been put   before them but the the addendum that is  being presented to you all today for the will be paid for out of arpa Revenue replacement  dollars again we want to hold on to any of those   remaining home ARP dollars because those dollars  have to try and carry us through not only the   project but through the 15-year compliance period  whereas the arpa revenue replacement dollars can   be spent today so there's two different funds two  different um buckets of money so to speak and so   I appreciate the question and an opportunity to  make the distinction and can you explain the ARA   Revenue replacement fund bucket how much is that  oh man I do not have that information available we   can get you that information um and one additional  question regarding home ARP allocation so that's   $5.5 million up to 15% of the $5.5 million can be  spent on administrative expenses the remaining $4   million are there any restrictions regarding those  $4 million and can you explain those restrictions   yeah the remaining funds uh the allocation of  the those funds is spelled out in that home   ARP allocation plan again I don't have that  in front of me today but we can get you that   breakdown council member Glascock how long will  this agreement extend our partnership with Petra   so again the $160 odd, that we're talking about  here today as part of the addendum is primarily   for services already rendered right they've  already done this work that was in addition   to the original scope um our contract with  Petra continues until the goal is that there's   a project right and so this addendum does not  necessarily extend that timeline per se nor does   it necessarily in that timeline this is for uh to  reimburse them for services rendered that were in   addition to what was originally contemplated in  the agreement last question I have do we have any   speculation of how much more we will spend as part  of this development um that's a great question uh   again of that remaining home ARP allocation  for the 15% there's about $372,000 remaining   um again the the how that will get drawn down over  a period of time I can't even begin to speculate   I know that we will begin to the point of the  other item on the agenda I don't want to speak   into that too much right but based on that yes  there will be a number of um uh services that   our development partner will perform in  the near future assuming we can identify   real estate opportunity continue to perform due  diligence and try to achieve a project i' I'd   be interested in what the estimate is going to  be moved forward to because if this 159,000 is   for things already completed y I would want to  know how much more we're going to invest in this   before we can continue to invest it because  I don't want to come back here you know six   months from now and we're like Hey we're going to  pay them 200,000 more from you know an extension   of what work they did previously as well so  in in the conversations we've had with our   development partner assuming that we continue  down the path of this real estate opportunity   no additional funds will be needed right that  between the original agreement and this addendum   that will carry us through Our obligation to  get through this real estate opportunity if   for whatever reason this real estate opportunity  doesn't come to fruition and we have to kind of   go back out to Market and re-evaluate real EST  estate opportun ities there may have to be an   a conversation that has to take place about what  that looks like but as it's identified right now   if we continue down the path of pursuing this one  real estate opportunity no additional funds will   be required I have additional questions okay  so for instance um services rendered so far   include is it accurate to say those Services  include the application for ltech credit or   low-income housing tax credit that got denied in  addition to advocating for Statewide funding that   got denied and then evaluating one opportunity  uh real estate option and this new real estate option yes a more defined answer  is included in the agenda pack   at the end of the addendum number one is  an exhibit exhibit a that spells out what   services were rendered and how they've arrived  at the $159,000 but to your point generally   speaking yes it were th it was those  things but a more detailed explanation   of those additional services rendered is  in the exhibit at on the back side of the addendum one more question so because  these are Services already rendered we're   um obviously our development partner um but moving  forward if it keeps getting denied at different   levels whether it's at the city council level  at the usd259 level or at the state level what   then happens to I guess the this agreement that  we have with this development partner again I   think that we're kind of at that point right of  we know what the trajectory looks like for this   real estate opport Unity the time energy and  effort that's been put in thus far and what is   anticipated to complete that trajectory um if for  whatever reason we continue to to see challenges   um put before us then at that point in time we  may have to kind of come back and re-evaluate what   it is that we're actually trying to accomplish  um reevaluate the goals and objectives and and   make those determinations at this point at at  that point at this point given the real estate   opportunity that is before us this addendum  satisfies the trajectory of trying to satisfy   that development opportunity but if plans change  then we may have to re-evaluate what we're trying   to do council member Johnston thank you mayor if  staff could get me exhibit a it was amended in   my packet Council heel just showed it to me if  you can get it to out of appreciate that thank you I'm H because this is again services  rendered it's these are items that are   not moving forward Beyond today per se so I  feel I'd like legal um to chime in on this   specific consent agenda item if we can delay  this also to the June 27th meeting or sorry   the next meeting that we would have host uh the  discussion of the new agenda item that's coming   forward mayor this is um a matter that you  could vote to defer until the date that you   bills appropriate when you've had further time  to consider it there's no strict deadline on that item member Glascock   do we have to take public comment on this  item since we opened it up before we begin discussion Jord is silent on that um you  know now is it is off the consent agenda   so I would lean toward suggesting that public  comments appropriate perfect um so I move that   we now go to public agenda uh sorry public  comment regarding this consent agenda item   which was pulled from the consent agenda are  there any members in the audience who would   like to speak regarding this item please  state your name and the district that you live I'm not sure what the district number is I'm  not used to being in this forum but my name is   Linda Orbin I live um 737 South arbert in witto  and myself and my colleague James Larson we are   with sir search and rescue Outreach Ministries  um we are on the street on a regular basis with   the homeless and we call them our friends on the  street we prefer not to say homeless but in all   of this I was at Saturday's meeting and I would  have loved to speak with you afterwards but you   sort of got inundated with which I imagine you do  at a regular on a regular basis but um if we could   have that opportunity at some point that would be  great um on at Saturday's meeting there was a lot   of discussion not only about where it's going to  be in the neighborhood and and I understand all   that we are trying to focus most of the agencies  be it mental health or whatever the case may be   are all north of Kellogg everything is downtown  and so the people who are south of Kellogg who are   either pen handling just to get a meal or let's  face it other things um have no way of getting   to those resources um either by way of bus or  whatever or they have to walk which they do anyway   but the it makes no sense to us I believe you were  asking saying that there was um they were asking   for $30 million for to renovate Park school when  the original project we were looking at Riverside   Hospital if Riverside Hospital and I understand  there was only one person that voted against   City dollars um being used for that project but  why spend $30 million to renovate a school when   Riverside Hospital already has individual rooms  that they can be housed in to me that makes no   sense um we we are trying to focus we've been  looking at getting either um like an abandoned   Hospital such as Riverside or um an old nursing  home something that already has individual beds   in it we'd like to get something like that south  of Kellogg because as I said again everything   is downtown what we are hearing from the people  down South we met with a gentleman who was here   only like 3 weeks from New York he was homeless in  New York thought coming to witto was going to be   a better situation in that 3-week period of time  he had already been beat up and robbed four times   and he was told by other homeless on the street  that witchar stands for what I can't have I take   anyway I think that's a really bad stigma for our  city and so I don't I don't know what the answer   is here but I I guess I'd just like to understand  more about you know what the reasoning is behind   this person denying the the Riverside project  which is already got everything set up there has a   kitchen has laundry facilities has everything when  and going to the school if someone could address that I'll have more uh vice mayor Balor first  sorry thank you mayor thank you so much for   being here uh we still actually do have an  option on Riverside Hospital um my personal   thoughts just briefly are that building cost  about $6.5 million um just to buy the building   and then we would have to do Renovations and you  know all of those different things so ideally I   think it's a great option too for the same reasons  that you do they're already set up I've toured the   building I think it's an excellent ENT option  um but the cost of the building right now is a   lot in comparison to potentially um an option on  the school which is the location is obviously the   most important we learned a lot about location  during the winter shelter this past year so um   we do still have an option on Riverside it's  just the cost of the actual building um might   be more than we can um handle right now since we  didn't get awarded the lowi income tax credits   along with um any help from the state to for  now at least so I just wanted to give those   couple comments and I appreciate you being here  not a problem I appreciate you hearing us thank   you council member John Sten thank you very much  for speaking I appreciate that I'm also a member   of the homeless task force along with council  member uh vice mayor Ballard um so it's it's a   passion of mine too and I think we need to find a  long-term sustainable solution I don't know have   you been through Riverside I have uh not since  they closed but Riverside Hospital was yeah we   took a tour of it and it would need significant  renovation to be ready for a shelter um it hasn't   Li limited maintain maintenance has occurred over  the since you've probably been through it so it   would take significant renovation and the option  with Park provides a good option that's close to   a lot of the providers they already there uh so  they could walk to those providers and get to   appointments and things like that um the other  factor is is is ongoing cost to run it there's   a gap and what there's there's Troy and his team  working diligently on on what it would cost along   the with the providers along cost what it would  cost to run it maintain it the sustainability   of it and there's a gap there and we need to  figure that out that Gap increases when you go   to Riverside just a bigger facility so these are  all questions uh that have to be answered they're   working Troy and his team we're working hard on  that along with providers humankind Open Door uh   Lord's Diner a lot of people are working in this  space and trying to find out a solution to to this   problem what concerns me is I don't know we have  a plan B for this winter exactly or or even for   this summer what happens when the temperatures get  to 105 like they did last year exactly you know   where where are we going to put them then yeah we  need a uh 365 247 absolutely and that's what we'd   love to do and our thing was we we were trying  to get the Christian Community involved Christian   businesses and stuff um because there is so much  sorry but there's so much red tape involved in   government that you know it it's crazy trying to  get any thing done um and with the the Christian   businesses being involved and it all coming from  private money private donations and stuff we just   feel like we'd be able to get more done but does  the city have a anything south of Kellogg that's   been abandoned how do we find out what city-owned  property south of Kellogg has been abandoned that   they would be willing to donate to a nonprofit  for some sort of shelter something even trying   to get them into um like detox like sack you know  is crazy if they have a warrant out sack will only   hold them for 24 hours then they're gone they're  back out in the street that does no help you know   our goal the what the Lord put on our heart was  not to just go out and feed them and clothe them   and leave them in their current situation but  to actually help them in their situation get   them into detox into calm care you know into sober  living um but that's such a hard process with the   things that are in place now you know if somebody  has an addiction we're willing to physically take   them to sack and have them put us as a um contact  for you know when they get out so that we know how   to follow up with them things like that but even  that has just it's been crazy trying to get people   to work together and just to try to find a bed  for somebody you you've you've morphed into what   a long-term plan would be homeless that's exactly  what uh task force is working on and I'd like   to have a further discussion with you sometime  absolutely could so would we contact me or leave   your contact information I'll I'll uh have contact  and thank you very much for the work you're doing   it really does mean a lot so thank you thank you  councilman Johnston thank you full Council council   member Glascock Miss Orban one quick comment to I  want to Echo the comments of my colleagues as well   so I won't reiterate anything they said I agree  with their sentiments um you had also said what uh   you not sure what council District you live in you  live in mine and so um I would love to meet with   you um as well so uh my email um I'll make sure  you get it afterward but we can have a further   discussion about the multi- agency Center as a  whole why centralized location I think makes sense   why park or Riverside would be great options and  I'd be happy to talk to you more about it as well   all right thank you councilman Glasco thank you um  I will leave my card and information our card with   um with her so that you it's got our email address  everything on it so you can get into yeah please   do thank you council member hoisel thank you mayor  um who did we recently contract out with for the   sober beds for homeless was that c care or was  that sack I'm sorry say again oh I I was asking staff I'm sorry can you repeat the  question we recently contracted out   to uh with the alcohol funding U  was it Sack or was that Colm care   that we contracted out with for the  beds for homeless man I Sally to the rescue good morning mayor and Council Sally stay  Housing and Community Services so we had two   contracts actually one with um sub AB center  of Kansas sack to do assessments a licensed   addiction counselor to do assessments and then we  contracted with Deca for 20 dedicated impatient 28   day impatient beds yes okay um so yeah just so you  guys know we do have um options there for homeless   people who are um having addiction issues um I  have okay all right well it's good to hear thank you uh public comment yes we're going to double  team you here uh my name is James Larsson I have   live at 2617 West 34 Street north um I'm a child  of God and I'm a warrior for Christ um I was saved   in 2020 and God really put it on my heart to help  these people on the street um you know before that   I wouldn't even look at them wouldn't even give  them the time of day uh but with what happened   with me through the love of God uh it's become uh  something something that I'm really adamant about   um and I appreciate what Linda said and uh you  know the bottom line here to help these people   is money uh which unfortunately we don't have a  lot of uh when I see the city moving forward with   trying to help someone uh I just want to make  sure that you all understand the enormity of uh   repression that are put on these people every day  I mean I would probably ask and you don't have to   by a show of hands have how many people been on  the street and talk talk to these people that are   sitting in here all right that's awesome that's  awesome so uh we go out every Saturday we see them   uh you know a lot of the stuff's about complaints  about systems that are already in place uh sober   living houses uh now not all of them uh but there  are some out there that are misappropriating money   they're allowing drugs and alcohol to come into  these places and I think there needs to be more   accountability there uh because uh you know most  some don't want to go to them places especially   if they're adamant about getting off the street  if they're adamant about quitting using drugs uh   they go to these places and it's just you know  it draws it all in I mean people are bringing   drugs in they're bringing alcohol in and there's  no checking on a system that helps these people   to to stay clean um and you know Deca is a good  organization I have a couple of gentlemen that   are in there right now but the complaints I get  from them is is that uh 95% of the people that are   going in there are forcibly having to go they're  having to go due to court or whatever so now you   have people that want to get sober that are in  there that are combined with these people it's   basically a jail mentality uh that are court  ordered to take these and it's not beneficial   for the people that are there actually trying to  get clean or trying to help their situation uh   the mental illness is through the roof you know  uh we see probably 50% mental illness 40% drugs   and the other 10% of people are they're just  there from one instance in their life that   has put them on the street and we all need to  recognize that it we're one instance away from   being out there ourselves and I don't know if you  guys actually have thought about that uh you know   some of that are college educated not me but uh  uh you know that have good jobs you know if you   had something happen in your life you'd be out  there so I just ask that you open your heart   to who these people are and what their struggle  is and that there's a and we just don't need to   throw money at it that that doesn't do anything  for them uh it gives the spaces uh we've worked   directly with uh our calling in the Dallas  Metroplex area uh they're self-funded uh you   know that's eventually what we want to look at  they got a $6 million a year budget they got a   brand new 30,000 square foot facility for men  and women uh they're doing it on $6 million a year you know we're talking 30  million here plus additional no actually inaccurate so I I would like Troy  to come address some of the dollar uh amounts   regarding the building and operating cost  which are two different and he K yeah go ahead in regards to the the item  on the other agenda um yes the   acquisition C so the building I don't have my  paperwork in I think it's 49,000 square foot   building um we have some preliminary estimates on  how many beds we might be able to uh put into that   facility um right now we have some really really  early estimates of what the annual operating costs   might be um I hate to share any of that work  just because it's purely speculative at this   point right we we shared this uh Saturday as part  of the open house that um one of the reasons why   we are uh considering an option agreement is to  allow us to get into the building and do the due   diligence so that we know and understand exactly  what the renovations might be required and we can   continue to work with our development partner  uh our development partner Petra uh as part of   their team they also have hfg architecture and  Mallen Gordon construction so we have two of um   some of the industry leading experts locally  to help guide us and advise us on Renovations   and costs associated with the same right so but  until we can get into the building and begin to   continue our due diligence do we really know  what the actual construction renovation costs   subsequently until we can get into the building  and understand what that's going to look like   can we really understand what the long-term  operation and maintenance costs are going   to be and so um while we do have some General  Industry standard best practice models of what   uh those operational costs are going to look  like again I hate to share any of that today   because it's purely speculative at this point  so can you please just address what's the $30   million if that's inaccurate can you just share  that um and I apologize the $30 million was on Satur asked gotcha yeah so um so that was a  request to the state right to uh specifically   carve out and allocate $30 million a $30 million  grant program uh that could have been made   available to every city every count in the state  so that it's it would just it would have just been   a $30 million grant program for the entire state  of the Kansas to specifically assist in funding   the construction or renovation to provide home  homelessness infrastructure uh there were a lot   of nuances associated with that grant program  but that $30 million grant program was a uh a   request that was made and it was presented to  the state legislature to stand up that program   and the state chose not to at this time so that's  that was the $30 million yeah thank you and if he   doesn't mind we'll probably end up talking with  him as well as far that goes uh I'm just saying   I think you guys know what the problem is it's  pretty big uh there's a lot of hurt there's a   lot of pain out there the things that I can tell  you that I've seen and done so I'm very happy that   you guys are finally seeing and I think you knew  all along that something was going to have to be   done so we just ask that you do your due diligence  when doing this and make sure that we're not you   know involving outside entities that come in and  just ruin ruin it for the people that are there   actually trying to help themselves um we are  uh you know in a position uh you know for me   uh this organization that we've started here uh  with God's consent has only been in effect for a   year but we've probably had over 300 contacts uh  we've sent you know multiple people to to uh detox   and the impatient uh but with the homelessness  I think that the mental illness issue is just   as high up there as the homeless is I mean the  mental health out there is just running rampid   and obviously people turn away from them people  because of uh their situation and sometimes how   they come across with people that don't understand  that so uh we're just uh thankful that you let us   speak and uh we're grateful for anything that you  might be able to do to help us and uh to help the   homeless out there so just want to let you know  that this is our our work this is what we do and   uh this is what we've been called to do so thank  you thank you very much for time um I just will   add one additional comment there are a lot of  individuals and providers in this space a lot   yeah and collaboration is the key to all of this  we are trying to play our part as local government   working with other entities like providers like  faith-based like business is because this is a   CommunityWide Challenge and it requires all  community members to be part of the solution   in one way or another and so we are trying and  these are our efforts in making that first step   and I really am grateful that people are coming to  speak up and so if we have additional individuals   that would like to speak on this matter please  come forward mayor with council member glasow   with one quick comment um I know there may be  individuals to speak about the larger agreement   maybe with Park Elementary as a whole but if  we could limit comments to be Germain to this   particular agreement and then we could open it  up for a public comment are there any additional   public comments regarding the consent agenda item  that was pulled item number seven regarding the   development agreement um and services that have  already been rendered and now need to be paid for I see no further public comment we'll  bring it back to the bench council member   glassock thank you mayor um I would just want the  assurance that this 159,000 would run through the   length of any extended agreement um due to  a delay of the next vote my concern would   be if let's if we table the next vote um given  the school board's decision yesterday to table   would we have to come back you know adding an  additional 20,000 would this continue through   that and then with the understanding that let's  say that this opportunity didn't pan out that   we would con that we would come before this body  before we offered any extension of an agreement   to look at other properties yes I can confirm  that I've spoken with our development partner   and they have agreed that yes this addendum will  carry them through the remainder of their contract   agreement as it exists today with the intended  real estate option right or the the real estate   opportunity to your point yes if for whatever  reason we have to change course and pursue   some other real estate opportunity then to your  point yes we would at that point in time we've   had the conversation with the law Department of  maybe at that point in time we kind of pause and   re-evaluate um what it is that we're actually  going to try to sit down with that development   partner talk about what that looks like and bring  that back before we go in a different direction so yes is there a motion to either approve defer this item Madame mayor I would actually motion to  defer this until we hear the larger parent   agreement also given that councilman Johnston  did not have um appended um or appendex a unless   he feels comfortable moving forward but I  would motion that for this to win to when   like later today or to another date could  we motion to defer till later today until   we have an understanding of that conversation  and then so could we just move this further   the agenda and then based on the  conversation for item number one   that may change my opinion so I would I would  move that we do this as item 1B council member Johnston we're referring to the agreement with  Petra correct okay um I looked real quickly   at councilman hoel's budget I would just  like to have a copy of it so I'm okay with   it if we want to go ahead and approve it today  I I would be fine with that council member   Johnson thanks mayor just clarification this is  services rendered already and potential future services so let me see if I can help make the  distinction a little bit too right so the original   contract agreement was for an amount for a scope  of services and a scope of work right and this   is going to be grossly oversimplifying this right  but there's sort of two parts right there was all   of the work that was conducted leading up until  the end of December right all of the work with   onboarding and Community stakeholder engagement  and real estate evaluation and a recommendation   for Real Estate right that work was part of  the original agreement as part of the original   agreement there's also work that is associated  ated with once that real estate opportunity is   secured and we're getting to closing and we're  doing the you know the the design and the   schematics and this right all that kind of work so  there are still there's still a lot of work to be   done in the interim right so if I took that first  agreement and I put it into two halves they've   done the first half they've yet to do the second  half right what happened was was after December as   there was a change in course right to understand  an alternative real estate opportunity um there   were additional services rendered and I and I have  to take this a moment just for a second and say   this development team is incredible right they  have gone above and beyond and they've say look   our goal and objective is to serve the community  and serve the city right and so they've taken it   upon themselves to do a lot of things that have  probably been above and beyond the scope of work   right and they said we get that we just want to  be a good partner we want to try to achieve the   goals and objectives of of the community right  and so but there is a chunk of time right post   December now it's sort of January through March  April of where they were doing additional work   that wasn't really a add initially contemplated  because of this additional real estate opportunity   and on boarding um for example there was some  conversations associated with um uh bringing in   additional Capital investors around New Market  tax credits and those kind of things that the   orig original team didn't have the expertise um to  really perform right and so when we say services   rendered there's still a lot of work to do once  a real estate opportunity is identified right   there's still a lot of work to do they're prepared  to do all of that work there's just this sort of   chunk of work that was not originally contemplated  that's what this addendum covers which is why we   feel confident to say that they have agreed that  this will be the last based on the trajectory of   the real estate opportunity that's been identified  now if there's something else that presents   itself we'll have to kind of take a pause and  reevaluate but I don't know if that helps answer   I was just trying to get at it if this work was  this work that was already done cuz I just think   people should get paid for work that they did so  yes it was it was worked already done well I'm   supportive of uh approving this today because for  me it seems to be unattached work was already done   getting us to this point council member toddle  thank you and and you must have been reading my   mind or taking my notes because I agree if this  is work that's already been done in the city of   Witchita owes the Petra for the work that they've  done and you know we hope to continue to work with   them as they have done a great job I can't see  any reason to delay it we're going to have to   pay it no matter what if we delay it till after  the next item or in three weeks we still have to   pay it so I'm going to be supportive of moving  forward and paying the bill that we owe thank you is the motion still forward or the motion  was withdrawn motion was withdrawn is there a   motion now a new motion now I'm MO to approve  item s second motion and a second any further   discussion I see none and again one more time  this was for services already completed in other   words there will not be additional dollars that we  will have to pay moving forward regarding this new   real estate opportunity yes assuming there's not  some other real estate opport unity and we have   to change course but we've already agreed that  if for whatever reason let's just call what it   right if for whatever reason the park and school  project doesn't play out the way we anticipate and   we have to go do additional work in identifying  another real estate opportunity and all of the   due diligence Associated what does a floor plan  look like how to that point if we continue to down   the path of Park Elementary School as we're  contemplating it now yes no additional fees   will be Ed thank you Motion in a second see no  further discussion Madame clerk please open the role motion passes 6 to one madame clerk  please call the next item Board of bids   and contracts dated June 10th 2024 morning  mayor city council Josh laber Department of Finance uh the board of bids and contracts  for June 10 2024 convened with the following   items we have for purchasing the  Microsoft Enterprise agreement year   three of three for Shi international  corporation in the amount of $983,000 79 we have the laser fish records management  system annual software renewal for Galaxy   Business Equipment Incorporated and  the amount of $16,917 we have the Neo   gov human resource and application tracking  system annual software renewal for government   jobs Incorporated in the amount of 8,485 66 and  we have the Demolition and site clearing Services   uh this is a requested contract extension for  HD Mills and Suns Incorporated in Brad Bird   Corporation background information on this is that  we are requesting to hold all pricing and items   the same um we have historically completed bids  on this low bid was primary second low bid was   secondary we'd like to move through request for  proposal model to allow multiple contractors to   allow multiple interested parties to participate  and then from that process once they're contracted   we will solicit informal bid opportunities we  currently do this with our trade contracts very   frequently we'd like to move to this model with  our departments as well uh this is how to become   a vendor with the city these are open requests  for proposals out on the stre street today and   we have Department Representatives here and  I would be happy to try to answer any your questions council member Johnson thanks mayor  um I appreciate you looking to move to that um   process for the demolitions and I think that'll  allow more people to do business with the city   of witch um but when you said that are you  saying that like you need approval from us   or you all are just doing that yes we are  requesting approval because these items   exceed $50,000 per year so we want that buffer  time to educate vendors interested parties that   have interacted with the city in the past have  a formal request for proposal process formally   put it out on the street formally publish it  in the local newspaper or identified Source   um and then work with our departments once those  proposals come in to evaluate those um proposals   and then present that new recommendation to you  as a new contract okay I guess my question then   for Jennifer would be what would that look like  as a motion is that staff's recommended action   or do we have to repeat that paragraph that  Josh has gave us Josh if you'd restate that   motion for Council that would be the best way  to proceed sure um staff is just requesting a   one-year um contract extension so as a part of  the board and bids and contracts recommendation   this agenda items inclusion is the authorized  the one-year contract extension oh okay so we   we wouldn't have to say all the rest of okay no  sorry that was just background information thank you any questions for staff I see none this is  boards and bid so there's no public comment there   a motion to approve that is correct uh Jennifer  is that correct we traditionally don't have a   comment but you certainly could is there  a motion to approve so move moved second   Motion in a second any further discussion  I see none Madame clerk please open the RO motion passes 70 Madame clerk please  call the next item approval of an option   agreement with Unified School District number  259 for property located at 1025 North Main Street honorable mayor memb Council Troy Anderson  assistant city manager um I'm going to run through   the slide deck real fast knowing and understanding  that this was prepared in advance of um the school   district's Board of Education meeting last night  I'll get to that here in just a minute but uh so   usd259 is the current owner of the property  located at 1025 North Main Street uh the   property uh consists of approximately 4.64 Acres  uh and also is um consists of a two-story building   uh which contains approximately 49,99 square feet  uh here's the subject property here um the option   agreement uh lays out a term of 180 days with uh  an extension period of 90 days uh the purchase   price is a dollar uh the option agreement  then provides access in order for the city   to continue to do their due diligence in trying to  arrive at ultimately a decision on whether or not   to purchase the property and includes a  contingency uh the contingency uh the and   I'm just going to read this just because I don't  want to misrepresent this in any way but so the   option term of that 180 days right commences upon  the first of the following to occur number one the   legislative Council waves the right to acquire  the subject property number two the legislator   fails to timely adopt a concurrent resolution to  acquire the subject property or three the design   ated agency fails to take title within the time  period provided and again that's where in addition   of the 180-day exclusive option city has the right  to extend the option term in additional 90 days   with written notice Financial consideration  should the city exercise its option the   purchase price will be paid out of the Economic  Development Fund and legal considerations again   disregard This legal consideration um excuse  me the law departments reviewed and approved   the option agreement as to form disregard the  recommendation and the action so last night   the uh usd259 Board of Education voted to defer  action um on their half of the option agreement   to June 27th I believe and so our recommendation  is in light of that action last night by by the   school district that we also defer consideration  and action on this item until July 2nd uh our   next regular scheduled meeting thereafter so  with that being being said uh I'll stand for   questions council member hoisel thank you mayor  um Troy yes are we still able if we delay this   today for a month are we still able to get in the  building to continue to do due diligence I I'm   just I mean I understand our hands are tight here  but I just don't want us to get caught pushing us   down so far not being able to do some work in  between now and beginning of July and you know   it's mindful that you know it's some time now and  we're going through the heat but we really want   to get this up and going by late fall winter at  the at the very least so I'll answer that maybe   two ways right number one um according to the  option agreement that option agreement has to   be entered into by both parties so until both  parties agree to enter into that agreement um   we're kind of at a standstill now to that point  there are some things that we can continue to do   right there um there is some ongoing work that  our development partner can continue to drill   down into right um we're going to continue to  engage the community we have some uh some ongoing   Community engagement opportunities in fact I want  to say June 20th there is another open house we're   going to continue to engage the community  get feedback and try to continue to F tune   right um what the questions comments concerns are  and how we might be able to respond to those in   addition of that we are going to continue to  meet with service providers right to try to   better understand and better um Define exactly  what those operational procedures are costs   associated with thre so there's some work that  we're going to continue to do regardless um but   to maybe more formally answer your question until  both parties enter the option agreement um which   as we've the Board of Education acted last night  that they're going to defer their action until   June 27th um I can tell you one of the things  that we're talking to them about is uh perhaps   uh getting staff over to uh their offices to try  to help answer some of the question lingering   questions that they might have right in advance  of that June 27th meeting uh we're still kind of   trying to figure out exactly what that looks like  but until both parties enter into the agreement   we're kind of at a standstill okay thank you yep  council member Glascock um two quick questions   first off you know we had talked about nominal fee  can you just give the background of why we have to   list a dollar as the purchase sure yeah so and we  sort of responded to this um on Saturday as well   as you know so as we as as the school district  took the formal action to shutter the school um   couple weeks later we and we start working through  whether or not this is actually going to be a good   opportunity we get together with our development  partner we run through the real estate metrics   on so we start negotiating what those terms and  conditions look like right the purchase pride is   something that we um started talking through  right and one of the suggestions was you know   taxpayers originally paid for this project and  and this building to begin with right so any   dollars that we would pay for the property would  be taxpayer dollars as well right and so some of   the suggestion was why why should taxpayers have  to pay twice um obviously the school district is   taking that into consideration right the the board  and whether or not given shortfalls that they're   amendable to that right but um and so that's  why there is a transfer of the property that's   contemplated right it despite we we' thrown around  the term you know a donation it's not a donation   although you know when you're conveying property  for a dollar you know that would was the context   of the comments that might have been arrived at  it was being donated but it's not necessarily   being donated the option agreement contemplates  a transfer a purchase of the property by the city   from 259 for a dollar but again that nominal fee  is basically just to to secure the purchase of the   property but again we were trying to be mindful of  the fact that taxpayers have already paid once for   this and that any taxpayer dollars that would go  to acquisition would be taxpayer dollars as well   Jennifer could you just give the legal context of  why it's a dollar vers donation or one element of   a contract is consideration and the consideration  needs to be something of a measured value the   dollar here's a token amount a symbolic amount  of that consideration so it's a legal requirement   correct okay thank you and then I have one F quick  follow-up question um to show OB obviously they've   deferred the action um is there an option  to show good faith from the council that we   continue with the option agreement and have an  amended agreement if they suggest changes on the   27th after a workshop where we show good faith  that we're still actively trying to pursue this   that we want to take the lead on this and if that  would happen I mean it only saves us about a week   in terms of an agreement but then the agreement  will take place on June 27th rather than July   2nd I mean I think that's entirely up to the city  council right I think you can achieve that in in a   number of different ways right one might just be  your voice here today right that you can express   your your support and your intent and your desire  to acquire the property right without necessarily   formalizing a vote right um as as we were visiting  with folks yesterday right um we don't want the   school district to necessarily feel any undue  pressure right that that a decision by this body   today might put on them right um and so but with  that being said yes we've also contemplated that   a a vote by this board by the city counil is only  half of what's required to enter into the option   agreement formally um and so to to your point you  could do either right you could hey we understand   that as a city council while we're not voting  on it today that we are deferring it to July if   that is the the ultimate motion and decision  you can express your intent and desire just   through your commentary um the alternative is  yes you could vote to approve and um and then   that puts it wholly in their Court to approve the  other half of the option agreement so you could do bothy council member tutle thank you um I  did have some conversations with Folks at   259 last evening and it's it was stated that  they are deferring it until June 27th but an   option may be for them to have a special meeting  and if they do have a special meeting that would   expedite the process you know somewhat um and so  it might be and Jennifer please you can correct   me when I'm wrong as always but you know if we  proceed with the delay we could say defer to   the July 2nd meeting or the first available  meeting after them or I mean obviously we'd   say it better than that but there's a way that  we could make the motion that we're deferring   it waiting for them um so it'd be July 2nd  or after their next meeting is that correct   Jennifer that's correct that language is  sufficient for a motion if you want to I   will say if we do go ahead and vote on it today  um we just want to TW the recital of the option contemp can you say that one more  time do vote on it today I think   we just wanted from the bench  maybe tweak a recital number B ask a follow-up question then so the reason that  I'm probably going to be in favor of delaying it   and tell usd259 votes on it is we have the  development agreement with them when they   review it and make a vote they may make changes  and so if we voted on this today and then they   do approve it but with changes we would have to  revote on it again with the changes am I correct   Jennifer and Troy that's is correct yeah so  you know my my position would be that we go   ahead and vote to delay and give our friends at  at 259 an opportunity to do their due diligence   I understand a few of them felt like they didn't  have enough time to prepare and then as soon as   they make their decision then we can come back  and make a vote so that would be my my thought   right now thank you council member John stun  thank you mayor uh Troy I know the answer this   but I want the public to know um this is kind  of a three-step process 259 votes on it we vote   on it then it goes to the state legislature  they have to basically not want it want to   take possession of it um they're having a special  session next week um is it possible for them to   uh take that action or not take it action and uh  for us to proceed so we don't have to wait until   they come in session again next January so I'll  answer that this way and um I'm just going to   read this again because I think it I don't want to  misrepresent this in any way right but um so under KSA hold on um under KSA 72-1 1489 right earlier  this year there was a Sen Senate bill Senate bill   number 387 was introduced on January 23rd 2024  the Senate passed as amended Senate Bill 387 on   February 21st the house received and introduced  on February 22nd uh house committee recommended   a substitute bills so if you go to those State  Legislature website you probably won't find that   SP 387 which are going to find is a sub bill for  SP 387 uh that was recommended on March 14th the   house passed as amended sub Bill uh SP 387 on  March 27th the Senate enrolled and presented to   the governor they enrolled on April 30th presented  to the governor May 6th Governor approved accept a   line item veto of part of 2A on May 15th this  does not fall within 2A right so the language   that was introduced as sub Bill SB 387 says that  on and after July 1 [Music] 2024 72-1 1439 is   hereby amended to read as follows subsection a  within 30 days after the board of education of   a school district adopts a resolution to dispose  of a school district building uh pursuant to KSA   72326 and amendments thereto such Board of shall  submit written notice of intention to dispose of   such building to the legislature so the school  district has to pass the resolution first right   so if they're going to defer until till the end of  June we're probably going to miss that legislative   special session window right however after July 1  right so the next two parts there's a subsection   B right that talks about if the notice required is  received during a regular legislative session then   this happens right but then the new part is if  the notice required under subsection a is received   when the legislature is in regular session is  not in regular session then not more than 45 days   after such notice is received that the legislative  coordinating Council may deny the legislative   option or basically pass on acquiring the property  so based on the bill that was introduced in the   session this year and was subsequently [Music]  approved once 259 passes a resolution if that's   what they so choose to do then notice can be  sent to the legislature they don't have to be in   session the legislative Council can receive that  and act on that outside of a session hopefully   that clarifies and answers the question I  appreciate that for the public yep clarify y   the relationship pushes our timeline mid September  I'm sorry say that again pushes our timeline back   so for whatever it's worth we were going to have  to wait until July 1 regardless right so whether   had Boe Board of Education uh entered into the  agreement yesterday or not right or regardless   of the action they were going to have to wait  until July 1 anyway I mean I guess they could   have done the special session right but I think  the conversation we've had thus far as they're   probably GNA have to wait until after January 1 uh  July one anyway so we have to wait 45 they have to   wait 45 days the legislation Council might respond  within three days five days seven days right they   have 45 days respond correct they could respond  could push it back to September possibly possibly   mid August if if that's 45 days mid August yes  vice mayor Ballard thank you mayor okay that   was really complicated can you just say  like bullet one two and three yep school   board has to make a decision then it comes  to us then it goes to the state but they   don't have to be in session to respond to us  that right you just said it okay thank you   I understand KSA I was like H okay I can repeat  that if you would like but otherwise yes you just   yes the the board of education has to pass res  and they have to take action right that's part of   the option agreement number one but that's also  what has to take place in order for them to uh   reach out to the state right the second is yes the  city would act and assuming both of those parties   agree to enter into the option agreement then at  that point in time then yes notification will be   sent to the state State and then depending on so  which is what was in the staff report right that   the option term commences upon the legislative  Council waving their right so that was the first   that we talked about if for whatever reason  the legislative Council does not act within   the 40 right 45 days if the legislator fails to  timely adopt a concurrent resolution to acquire   the subject property or the designated agent  fails to take title then that requirement will   have been satisfied thank you council member  Johnson thanks mayor um had to knock on some   wood first so I'm having a little Deja Vu a little  concerned how will these delays impact our winter shelter um so maybe circling back in to council  member Ho's original question comment right of   we're going to continue down the path of doing  the things that we can control right um we'll   continue to gauge the community continue to  fine tune we think we understand is construction   costs and construction estimates um operational  cost operational estim there's some things that   we're going to continue to do regardless right um  realistically right um it's going to be close uh   we we're having conversations with our development  partner two and three times a week right how what   do we know now what do we know now what do we know  now right and and um that that that shot clock is   is counting down and so but everybody is committed  to trying to uh you know once we are given a green   light and once we are through due diligence and  once again assuming we can acquire the property   um we're already having the conversations  what are the things that we can do now to   set ourselves up so that uh we can stand up an  emergency winter shelter before cold weather heads   okay I would um sorry I know that's not a clear  answer but no it's I'm just I just remember having   some of these conversations last summer and then  we ended up where we were no fart of hours a lot   of things happened but um what there could there  be a way that we express uh really strongly to the   legislative Council if 259 does agree to this  and the council votes and support that they   make a decision really quickly so that we are  not in that same situation again I would hate   to have another body taking their time trying to  figure that out while we're sitting here waiting   and ready to start working on the winter shelter  and we have to wait on that I will see what I can do I'm some member Tuttle thank you and try I  was remiss earlier in my my question I didn't   say thank you and thank you for all and your team  is done and also Sally with Housing and Community   Services I know this has been spent an enormous  amount of time a labor of love um and certainly   shows where our heart is as a city right that  we want to take care of our most vulnerable so   I'm I'm was remiss at not doing that before and  and please know how appreciative I am and I think   all of council is um my other question is I was  also going to say Can can our Council call their   councel and and you know see if we can have them  be Swift in this so Troy if if usd259 it approves   it and then we approve it and then it goes to um  the state and let's say that you know they take   their time and it's 45 days and it's mid August  what has to be done for the facility for it to be   emergency winter shelter I think there's sprinkler  systems that have to be done I'm just curious how   long and it may not be you know the perfect  situation that we wanted it to be but we moved   into our last emergency shelter pretty quickly  right and we were able to pull that off but   is there an anticipated timeline of you know  we think that what all has to be done for it   to be able to serve as an emergency shelter and  how long do we anticipate that could take um I   don't have the information available to you today  sure right um that's a that's a conversation that   is continually ongoing I can tell you for example  one of the things that we've identified right is   um perhaps that uh the facility might need to be  outfitted with a fire suppression syst automatic   sprinkler system right and so uh one of the  conversations we're having is you know what   does the lead time on materials right uh are there  contractors available that can readily mobilize   and provide the and then what's that renovation  timeline right and so we're we're continually   working with our development partner and their  design team and their construction team to   identify those opportunities and how that's going  to impact the schedule um again I I don't have the   answers for you today but yes as that information  comes and that's kind of what we've been telling   the community right is as that information comes  available we'll be more than happy to share it   right once we can um Identify some real benchmarks  we'll be more than happy to share that and then my   last question is it's a little bit of asking you  to editorialize which you know I is probably not   fair but um if usd259 passes and then we pass do  we have any expectation that the wouldn't could we   kind of start putting more Wheels in place during  that 45-day period or however long it takes I mean   are we anticipating any problem problems from the  state or is that just kind of another formality   at this point and I know I'm asking you to  editorialize I'm just curious if you know once the   city this this if if usd259 passes and if we pass  it can we go ahead and get some balls rolling so maybe I'm let me let me see if I can answer  I'm not aware of any specific use or desire   that the state has for the property perfect  which probably but again not that I'm aware of   everything right but I'm not aware of anything  that they're specifically looking to try and   Achieve maybe that this building might assist  them with but again with that being said we   asking you an unfair question but just hopeful  that we can move as quickly as we can to protect   our most vulnerable during the winter thank you  absolutely council member glov this just popped   up my head because this would be another process  that we have to follow as well I don't know what   the zoning currently is for Park so I imagine that  it would probably have to be rezoned as well at   some point so are we preparing that just to happen  simultaneously with the other agreement as well   so that doesn't become hurdle in the process  yeah so we met with uh mapd metropolitan area   planning department uh staff uh last week and have  identified uh yes a zoning change will be required   um and so there is a process by which uh there's  an application deadline and there's advertising   and neighbor notification and a presentation of  the metropolitan area Planning Commission and   so uh one of the things that um obviously we're  going to communicate with uh the school district   um will most likely be to have them authorize us  to pursue that knowing that for whatever reason   right if if uh the school district decides not to  authorize the transa we can always withdraw that   application at any point in time but this can  run parallel paths um but we have not had that   conversation with the school district as of yet  um but knowing and understanding we we do have a   schedule and a timeline that has been laid out  in front of us uh and so now there's just the   Nuance of whether or not the school district will  support and allow us to continue to go through   that process knowing that that could be withdrawn  at any point in time there's no additional undue   pressure that would be placed on them um to  commence that process The Zing process takes to   approximately 90 days it would have to go through  MBC would have to go through dab probably maybe   I'd love to say 45 to 60 days okay yeah [Music] um  but it all depends on timing of when applications   submitted on when you can get advertising  in I'd like to say 45 to 60 but it could   take a little bit longer I ass want that to be  a hurdle in the process as well so correct thank you no further questions I have one question  and this is in conjunction with previous item   and this item there have been allegations of  um we have lots of city-owned properties can   you please um address address the real estate  properties owned by the city of witta capable   of having an emergency shelter um I'm sure  that this was discussed last year when uh   the last option was presented in October one month  prior to opening an emergency winter shelter that   it was one property that now has since been uh  sold to another nonprofit what other city-owned   properties do we have that can house an emergency  winter shelter or have any businesses nonprofits   or churches donated anything to the city of wiah  yeah so um to your point yes uh the the previous   emergency winter shelter the facility uh has  since been uh sold and so again we we promised   the community that neighborhood right that that  was going to be sort of a one andone and that   was going to be the only time and so even while  emergency winter shelter was operating we were   in the throws of trying to identify whether or  not there were other real estate opportunities   for this upcoming winter season and beyond our  development partner as part of our development   agreement right they went through a robust real  estate evaluation metrics right and identified all   the real estate opportunities that felt as though  they might be a good fit for this um there's not   a lot of options right um whether it's it's City  owned property we we don't have any right whether   it is privately owned whether it's corporate or or  faith-based um there was a list of there was about   six properties that Rose to the top of that list  that and again it's not just is there a property   available right it's we're trying to think about  those long-term implications right and how that   fits within the context of the broader scope  right uh that we're not just trying to put a band   on it we're not just although that we are  obviously mindful of every winter season and   has been alluded to every summer season right um  but being uh good stewards of taxpayer dollars and   good stewards of taxpayer resources right uh we  want to try and be targeted and so as they went   through that real estate evaluation there were  only a handful of properties that really presented   themselves um and so to your point there's not  a lot of other options um if we have to go back   to the drawing board and again not to try to put  any undue pressure on anybody not if we have to   go back to the drawing board we have possibly  some Alternatives right but they're obviously   due to proximity to existing service providers  uh issues with transportation and Logistics   right it becomes exponentially more difficult  to try and achieve the goals and objectives   that we uh have set before you right and that  you have set before us actually and so there   are alternatives but it becomes more expensive  and harder to try and Achieve those goals and objectives at this time we'll open it  up for public comment regarding this   specific agenda item are there any  individuals here for public comment hello uh mayor woo and other City  Council Members my name is Cheryl   Gob I'm in District Six I've lived in  both Riverside and Midtown the reason   I'm speaking today is because I attended the  Saturday June 88th meeting on the Bine of Park   Elementary and converting in into a multi- agency  Center I'm here to speak out on the out of concern   and compassion for the residents that already live  in this area I'm opposed to the city converting   Park Elementary into a multi- agency Center at  a no barrier level no barrier allows people to   enter with no identification no barrier allows  people to enter and to leave the facility even   if they're under the influence of drugs and  alcohol this multi- Center agency is supposed   to be open 24 hours a day with possibly 150 to 20  people unless it's the winter months and I've read   where that would add maybe an extra 75 people how  is this safe for any neighborhood this sounds like   a very dangerous setup and it's in the middle of  a neighborhood not on the edge of the neighborhood   not in a downtown area this is where people live  eat try to raise their families and I believe this   is not a setup that's very compassionate to the  very people that were reminded at the June 8th   meeting to be compassionate on um the June 8th  meeting also the Midtown residents were reminded   that the homeless are human beings I believe we  already know that and I believe that Midtown has   been compassionate and giving to other human  beings the Midtown residents are full of love   compassion acceptance and patience it's these  things have been there for a long time if one   drives the streets of Midtown it has many  many social services nonprofits Ministries   city services for the poor housing for the poor  and underprivileged more than most neighborhoods   in wi at all does the city really think that  Midtown has not shared the blessing as well as   the burden for compassionate causes Midtown has  definitely done great and it's absolutely done   more than it's part it's now time for another  city area to share and help the city with a   solution Midtown is a historic neighborhood  but it is in Decline many houses are boarded   up it is not a wealthy area and many families make  well below the average income of witch just like   the area at 21st in Grove Midtown has a large  and vulnerable and under represented Hispanic   Community Park Elementary was 66% Hispanic and  Horus man is 88% Hispanic the children that went   to Park Elementary School have been displaced now  the children that go to Horus man 88% Hispanic   they're ages 13 to 15 it's a middle school they  are four blocks if you do this they are four   blocks from a facility with no ID required and  possible possibly under the influence of drugs   that is one of the objections the people that  live near 21st and Grove had for that facility   at 21st in Grove and they protested it and wanted  to leave it was the same problem because it was   close to a tops Early Learning Center and I think  that's ages 5 through 12 these children are ages   13 through 15 so what is the difference here the  next thing I expect to hear is the facility also   won't check to see if there are Fain or sex  offenders in the housed in the facility once   again this is for four blocks from Horus man 88%  Hispanic 13 to 15 year olds this is not safe for   the residents the human beings that reside in  this area and are trying to raise their children   property values will decline I've spoken with  three different real estate agencies that have   been in business for a long time all three  realtors that I spoke to agreed that the values   will go down once the facility is established  so if you live in Midtown and you need to sell   because you're now afraid of your neighborhood and  it looks nothing like it did before good luck and   the mortgage rates the national average is 7%  as of yesterday if you need to buy a new home   the small businesses in Midtown which I spoke to  yesterday I canvased a lot of the area and went   to some of the small business some are largely  Hispanic owned so I spoke to them and they said   that they are afraid that they are afraid that  they will suffer that they feel like they have   no one to talk to and they don't know what to do  I'm going to continue continue canvasing the area   because this is not this is the same problem that  you all had at 20 first and Grove and that is why   you promised it would be there temporarily this  is the exact same problem different population my   amazement at the June 8th meeting was not only in  the idea of putting a shelter in the middle of a   neighborhood that's in Decline Cher but shaming  but the shaming that occurred to the residents   that live in the neighborhood they were told  that these homeless people and they are are human   beings they were told to be compassionate I will  say this and also to establish a neighborhood to   establish a neighborhood watch which while they're  feeding their children and trying to make a living   paycheck to paycheck it would be very hard to be  looking out the window at night time and making   sure no one is creeping up on your property  I want to say this about shame this is the   last thing I have to say shame is a psychological  method to control people look it up that is what   it is and it's used on populations to control  them and Midtown does not need to be shamed   into accepting this problem that the city has the  city needs to use another facility thank you very much public comment continues again if everyone  can be respectful it's five minutes thank you hi I'm Tracy Terell um I live in district  6 um own a business in deleno uh so dealing   with the homelessness issues that we've seen in  the city has been um quite a bit of a challenge   on a couple of different fronts for my husband  and I um I actually own a property at 1058 1060   northwater which directly is the coldest sack  that goes into the current teacher parking lot   to Park Elementary so I am actually a stakeholder  in that very close area um I guess a couple of   things because I know from the meeting on Saturday  um making sure that I guess I was looking at it   from a different perspective but what are have we  identified the agency that's going to be doing the   ongoing support of the Mac yet or is that still in  work the entity operating the system is still that   is still in the works and it's agencies agencies  right but I figured there would be like one over   arcing okay so that was one of the questions um  the other thing is the the area around Park um I   guess from a budgetary standpoint as we start  to look at the budget for this um taking into   consideration the thorough far for Water Street  because it is a cuaac so making sure that we   kind of help with that traffic the other thing  that we also face now is the Alleyways that are   between the businesses that are on Market is  it Market anyway water than the next street   to the east but there's an Alleyway that runs in  between there and I know right now we have a lot   of issues with homeless in the area camping back  in that Alleyway um and causing disturbances for   our tenants that live in that duplex there um  so I guess making sure that we take that into   consideration from a funding perspective the  other thing is too is highly looking at is the   as we do this the city needs to increase the Park  and Recreation budget in order to account for the   bike path traffic and the overall maintenance  of that area because the bike path does run   on the backside of that and as we can see um  from other areas as that gets integrated in   we're going to need to make sure that that  budget gets increased a Park and Recreation   can have the money to be able to take care of  that and clean up the trash and the debris if   it or as it occurs um the other question that  I had is as we bring in mental health into the   conversation will comare be involved in that  multi- agency Center if it is um how much of   this is the county going to be covering versus  just the city and so kind of looking at trying   to understand like should the county be involved  in this and then the last thing we do know that   the the real estate term that we use I just taught  pre licens last week so um but the real estate   term that we use for that is called economic  obsolescence and we do know that it is there   is a potential impact for economic obsolescence  for those neighbors especially the ones directly   around the park location um I would also like to  see from a budgetary standpoint as we look at this   maybe it's an opportunity for their if the  functional obsolesence does occur what type   of property tax rebate could be provided  to those homeowners that are facing that   something that's outside of their control  so I guess that's kind of my question to you all nobody wants it in their neighborhood and and  I get that and and I can tell you from working   with going to a lot of the COC meetings than to  have the location announced it was kind of a oh   okay it sounded better when it was going to be  in somebody else's neighborhood right I get that   it does make sense from the service providers  being around um making it easier for folks to   be able to access things on bike walking um all of  those things so while I am supportive of the park   location um I just would like to see some of these  other things taken into consideration because as a stakeholder right now I have great families and  my tenant but what's going to be the rental rate   once this goes into play right and then what type  of families you know are going to be wanting to   have their children living in an area that's  going to be close to some of the things that   the last Lady talked about so thank you council  member glassock hey Tracy I just want to say thank   you for your very thoughtful comments in terms  of how to enhance um this possible solution um   regarding Alleyways regarding Parkways regarding  traffic count I think those are great suggestions   to figure out how we can enhance this if we do  move forward this um and so if you have any other   suggestions I think everybody on the council is  willing to hear them um and I think those are   uh things that we should be taking consideration  when we're looking at this as well I do think this   is a good plan and um but we can also figure out  ways that we can uh mitigate this and mitigate   concerns and I think these are some really good  suggestions so thank you for offering those   council member John St Tracy I comments and thank  you very much for for uh coming forward um I'm on   the homeless task force I'm on a subcommittee  of uh provider coordination right so we've dug   in t have many many many meetings uh Le how do we  do this who's going to be involved and definitely   comare will be involved it'll be really multi-  agencies multiple agencies all working together   and and working on the the governance structure  of that you know um I don't think anybody is   satisfied with how things are now and so we  had need to do something different um just   working on that and all the providers are in on  the at the table working on that oh no for sure   absolutely I mean I've been to enough of those  meetings too have have been able to see and it   is exciting from that regard yeah but I I think  everyone can agree that sleeping on the streets   and Alleyways along buildings is not an option  a good option for people I think we need a place   for them um I think that'll help business too  your business you don't have that in front of   your business so definitely working on it um one  thing I might point out is that that agent that's   if it is park it will have 247 security so that  will be something and also that uh people will not   be allowed in there with drugs or alcohol right  if they're going to leave they're not going to be   high or or drunk so appreciate your comments very  much uh still come to the meetings 20th there's a   there's a uh homeless task force meeting at 3:30  at the library a forum after that so if you can   come to both of those that would be great a lot  of input from the audience in those too so okay thanks any more individuals who would like to speak I see none will bring it back to the bench first all right so it's back to us for discussion  I suppose um I I think it seems like the will of   the body is to delay this item until the  July 2nd meeting um so I will go ahead   and if everybody's okay make that motion to  delay this item until July 2nd second Motion   in a second um council member Johnson I I agree  with you councilman hos Heisel uh if the school   board has a special session and we can move  it up I think there should be language that   we'd be able to move it up from July okay I'll  I'll take a friendly Amendment Amendment there   to Jennifer thank you council member um how  about I move to defer this item until July 2nd   unless usd259 school board has a meeting uh before  that time it and we then would defer this item   to the first available meeting after the first  available meeting after the school board meeting   yes okay do I do should I run run that through  again or just say if you're okay with it okay I   I moved to defer this item until the July 2nd  meeting unless there is a Schoolboard meeting   before then that this item is uh acted upon and  then the first available meeting after perfect   second Motion in a second any further discussion  C uh vice mayor Balor thank you mayor uh I just   appreciate everyone that came to speak today to  ask questions share their concerns um I know we   still have a lot of work to do questions  to answer um concerns to address um we're   still having conversations with the board of  education but I appreciate everyone that has   taken time to come here it is really important  to me to listen um and get feedback I appreciate   um all my colleagues questions and Troy uh  thank you so much for um all of the direction   that you've been helping us and try to help us  make sense of this really complicated problem   so it will be in support I just wanted to  offer a few comments council member tutle   um thank you for your comments vice mayor I also  will be in support I was just going to make a   housekeeping um comment just FYI to put it on our  radar if usd259 does hold a special meeting before   they're you know right now scheduled June 27th  we can also schedule a special meeting so that we   wouldn't have a delay per city ordinance the mayor  or four City Council Members can call a special   meeting so um just if we wanted to expedite  this we could also consider that option so thank you motion and a second any further discussion  I see none Madame clerk please open the ble motion passes 70 Madame clerk  please call the next item approval   of an amended and restated operations and  management agreement with the car park honorable mayor members of Council Troy  Anderson assistant city manager um I'll   provide a little bit of background  uh I'll try to keep it brief but uh   the city has entered into various parking  management agreements um with the car park   over the years um including as early as 2010  another one in 2016 another one in 2022 um   simultaneously right the city has continued to  um identify various goals and objectives with   more robust comprehensive parking and multimodal  plans uh back in 2017 there was a grant agreement   uh with wo that started that process over the next  18 months there were six focus group meetings six   steering committee meetings six techn advisory  committee meetings for work sessions to open   houses there was an even there was even an online  public survey in which there were 900 responses   received which is uh if anybody has been in  and around that a it's a really good response   really good response rate uh to a public survey  unfortunately between 2020 and 2021 uh Global   pandemic Sidelines those efforts however in 2022  that steering committee is sort of reappointed   recommissioned uh the plan the draft plan of the  time then is presented to 11 different advisory   committees and Boards all providing input all  making recommendations to advance the plan uh   subsequently between October of 22 and February  of 2023 the plan is approved by the metropolitan   area Planning Commission and approved recommended  for approval by each of the six District advisory   boards all culminating with city council endorsing  the 2019 parking and multimodal plan in March of 2023 so since March of 2023 we have continued to  try and um begin identifying how to implement the   strategies that were identified in that 2019  parking and multimodal plan so endorsement of   the plan provides a policy framework by helping  assist in how to prepare for better management   of the city's parking and Mobility assets so the  following couple of bullet points right were those   implementation strategies that were identified  in that plan I'm going to highlight just a few of   them here but utilizing technology to improve the  customer experience improving parking enforcement   uh and parking enforcement operations um improving  cost recovery for the regular operation of the   parking and multimodal fund improving cost  recovery for repairs and maintenance of parking   assets communicating clearly about parking and  transportation information of the public and   obviously using those strategic Investments for  the benefit of the community so additionally the   plan really kind of starts spelling out  some of those specific tactics in trying   to implement so first and foremost authorize  the transportation department to implement new   parking Technologies including upgrading smart  parking meters introducing things like license   plate recognition equipment for enforcement also  authorizing the transportation department to   set or adjust parking management policies  including new time limited parking zones   parking permit program zones to meet the  city's targeted parking Peak occupancy rates so as part of us going out and trying to  continue to communicate and um find support for   the uh implementation of we went before the  downtown witcha board presented uh you've   probably all seen my presentation around free  parking is not free right and we've done that   downtown board recommended continuing to try and  implement the strategies identified in the plan   additionally we knew and understood that one  of the things that we were going to have to   do is revise some of the codes and ordinances  right so back in January of this year back on   January 2nd we presented code amendments  uh particularly as it relates to Charter   ordinance 237 and Title 11 generally referred  to as City's parking and traffic ordinances we   amended the the definition of parking meter Zone  this authorized independent contractors hired by   the city to enforce the city's parking ordinances  required non-employee parking Control Officers   to carry insurance we appointed the city traffic  engineer to establish and designate no parking and   a restricted parking meter zones designate times  dates time limits allowed and the appropriate fees   for parking and parking meter zones which has  led us to today right and so the last part of   of uh beginning to really try and start to  implement the strategies that have been identified   is to amend the existing parking operation and  management agreement with our parking operator the   car park by implementing these strategies some  of the financial considerations we anticipate   that um this would generate approximately $3.3  million annually beginning in 2025 on the expens   side the current management fee is about $321,000  a year paid from uh the Downtown parking fund   however the current management fee only provides  limited operation and management for a few select   parking facilities within the downtown area and  meter collection in the same under the new amended   and restated agreement which is before you all  today the car park will provide comprehensive   operation and management of all city-owned parking  lots structures facilities in downtown Witchita   they'll also be responsible for oversight of  the acquisition installation and maintenance of   all new and existing parking equipment within  that same subject area and lastly they'll be   responsible for enforcement of our parking codes  across the entire Downtown parking man management ecosystem similar to previous agreements with  the car park the cost for the acquisition of the   infrastructure and the equipment uh will be borne  by the car park and then reimbursed by the city   as part of those monthly uh reimbursements from  the city's Downtown parking fund over a five-year   amortised period or rate so included in the agenda  report we have a schedule that shows what can be   anticipated to be paid out in 2024 25 26 27 28  29 and 30 through the term of the agreement the   law departments reviewed and approved the amended  and restated agreement as to form it's recommended   the city council will approve the agreement  subsequent budget adjustment and authorize   the necessary signatures with that being said  while the car park um has local representation   their their ownership group is not located uh  here but they are available online they have   joined us virtually and they are here uh to answer  any questions that you may have directly for them   otherwise I'll stand for questions questions for  staff starting with vice mayor Balor thank you   mayor um Troy that was a lot thank you but I know  and you know because I've talked to you about it   a million times there are questions and concerns  from businesses and today's item is just just the   equipment SL portion it's there's still a lot to  come lots of conversations and education pieces   correct correct I don't want anybody to see this  and like completely freak out does that physical   roll out look like that's the second one that  this technical Advisory Group has been working on   right is how many meters are we going to have to  acquire and it's not just maybe individual meter   heads it's dual meter heads it's multimeter kiosks  it's Park PC equipment right it's going to be all   of it and being able to strategically identify  where that equipment is going to go what are the   installation strategies so on and so forth right  so there will be the physical roll out of this   and then the third part which has been huge is  communication right so this technical Advisory   Group since the beginning of January has met twice  a month we meet second fourth Fridays or something   like that right and we meet twice a month and  we continue to meet we' then rolled all those   conversations up into uh a steering committee  uh that steering committee has folks who are   representatives of various groups and in fact um  we've been in conversation with some folks even   as late as late last week to try and add folks to  that steering committee right to be representative   of other groups uh that may have a vested interest  in how this is going to impact uh uh the users and   the end users right and so we've already had one  steering committee meeting so basically we took   the approach of the technical Advisory Group uh  the work that was commenced under q1 would be   rolled up into that steering committee and then  lay out what can be expect expected in Q2 so that   meeting was held early April so the next steering  committee meeting will be in July and that'll be   hey here's the work that we showed you that we  were going to do in Q2 here's the work that we   did in Q2 and what you can expect to see in Q3  and then there will be another steering committee   meeting at the end of Q3 right here's the work  that we we did under Q3 and what you can expect   in Q4 and then ultimately currently the plan is  to over the course of Q3 and Q4 of this year right   the equipment will be ordered start to install it  will continue to engage business owners residents   patrons I mean we're talking about um showing up  at um public events maybe there's a tent with an   actual piece of equipment right showing people how  to interact with the equipment all the equipment   for we you know we heard loud and clear that we  want that equipment to be you know coin operated   Bill operated where appropriate credit card right  we want to improve the user experience right that   was one of the uh initiatives that was set out  in that we want to improve the user experience   improve the customer experience by creating  flexibility in ways that folks can pay including   mobile app we've already had conversations with um  some of our mobile vendors for example Park Mobile   um which is already being used in our community  right and so we're having all those conversations   at a technical level we're rolling that up  into the steering committee and that's going to   continue right there's got a robust plan that our  comm's team is going to present at that next sort   of steering committee meeting in July once that  steering committee says yep we also support and   endorse or maybe they'll say hey have you thought  about this out or the other we'll incorporate that   and then over the course of um Q3 and Q4 of this  year as we are continuing to roll out installation   of the equipment and feedback from we'll continue  to educate the community on what the implications   of this are with the goal and the intent as  we've identified right now is for this system   to go live so to speak January 1 2025 which is why  we've kind of projected the revenue commencing in   uh 2025 right now the system will continue to  operate as it is in fact what you may see is a   number of meter heads being removed some of the  signage being removed right as we continue to   prepare for this is going to be a a fairly large  undertaking right by our operator to again acquire   this equipment get it all installed the hope is  to try and get it installed late October early   November get it tested and make sure that it's up  and running and operable so that when we sort of   go live January 1 2025 we're not having technical  issues with implementation that's probably way   more information than you were looking for but  I was hoping to kind of demonstrate that there   will be significant Community engagement um  this contract amended and restated agreement   today just allows our contractor to begin that  acquisition and installation of equipment as   we've at least identified today okay thank you  so much council member glasa Troy I know you   and I have talked about some of my concerns um  specifically regarding Outsourcing of enforcement   um so is this the first time that we've had non  city employees enforce city ordinances and codes as it relates to parking enforcement yes um as far  as other enforcement of other codes and ordinances   of the city I might have to kind of defer to  some of the other departments um but Outsourcing   enforcement of codes and ordinance of the city is  not unheard of so for example car park and I don't   have the list with I thought brought that piece of  paper with me today but even the car park enforces   parking operations and other communities Across  the Nation if my memory serves me correctly uh   like Scranton Pennsylvania uh Atlanta Georgia  Estus Park Colorado there's a number of other   cities that so these folks are no stranger to  enforcement of city codes and ordinances but I   know for example the city of Witchita um you know  we have a an agreement with the county to enforce   building codes right so there are County employees  who are enforcing building codes um so there may   be some nuances around so I can't say cart blanch  that we've never done anything like this but as   it specifically rates to parking yes this will be  the first time I know we had talked a suggestion   of these individuals either taking an oath of  office or something to adhere to constitutional   rights and authorities as well because they would  be enforcing our laws did legal have the chance to   review that and see if that was a consideration  or option as well um yes we we had an opinion   for I'll let them weigh in if I could Council M  Glascock as Sharon makes her way to the podium   uh the city decade decade and a half ago had an  accessible parking program where we worked with   Outsiders volunteers agencies worked under the  per purview of the police department to do parking   enforcement for handicap accessible parking and  Sharon is very familiar with the program and can   kind of give you some information as to how that  worked but to your point it was under the purview   of the witch Police Department there was a review  process that was in place yeah in response to your   first question on enforcement I've been here 33  years this is the first time that we have allowed   a non City employee to actually issue the citation  Dante is correct we had the snapet program that   program worked on volunteers who went out gathered  the evidence and then presented presented that   evidence to WPD to issue the citation uh mabc well  planning also has a program where individuals can   go and pick up signs in the RightWay which is a  type of enforcement however that requires those   people to have a class and instruction by City  staff um we do have non law enforcement um people   issue citations and mabc c d health officers um  those while they're City or County Employees they   are not Law Enforcement Officers for lack of a  better term so this is the first time that we   would have given um the opportunity to directly  file a citation far as I know thank you for that   context um I'll probably have more uh in terms of  discussion uh regarding that as well um the next I   probably have two more questions I know councilman  ho house was on there so I'll let him answer some   questions as well is there a quota in terms of  how many tickets the company is expected no no   okay no and and I've worked I want to make sure  with the contract people no there's not a quota   and try can correct me if I'm wrong they do not  receive any of the revenue from those citations   um the plan and they'll have to be some sort of  interface developed between um car parks and the   municipal court but those tickets would go to  court the revenue is going to go through Court   um so they're not going to get a bonus or anything  they um as part of the agreement do have to come   and make be made available to come and testify if  those are contested okay and then last question   I have regarding enforcement in terms of the  appeal process do they appeal through the city   not through car park if if it is a parking  citation that's issued under our ordinances   it would come to us through municipal court so  they would continue the appeal process through   Municipal Court yes um as far as your question on  an oath my concern would be is that these people   are not sitting employees they're going to be an  independent contractor so if we start uh making   those kind of uh demands or requirements I think  we get closer to having an employee relationship   rather than an independent contractor relationship  don't are like dab appointments other appointments   to boards and commissions also take a an oath  in some capacity yes okay but but they would   but they would be agreeing to that appointment  okay thank you I I think that that's something   that Troy and his people may have talked to  car park about okay um but I don't know that   we can necessarily require that as part of the  contract thank you I appreciate it yeah if I   can maybe continue right so um in cooperation  with the law Department I'll kind of just touch   on there's a number of Provisions within the  agreement that begins to start responding to   the enforcement right so um under Section 4A  the contractor must provide training trained   qualified competent and experienced Personnel uh  section 5A specifically enumerates Professional   Standards of conduct including non-discrimination  control over conduct demeanor appearance of its   employees and compliance with law rules  and procedures under Section 7 F5 there's   a requirement that the contractor must ensure  initial and recurrent training of its employees   on different topics including customer service  customer exper experience dispute resolution   safety training and City parking Code Compliance  and parking enforcement which is required to be   held upon hiring and recurring not less than  quarterly so one of the things we talked about   was um our Law Department offers up training  sort of unofficial but training nonetheless   to uh City staff and law enforcement rights so  perhaps There's an opportunity to require that   those employees who are um going through Orient  orientation may have to initially take a class or   whatever with our Law Department to make sure  that uh everybody is mutually work and then   obviously they have to provide ongoing quarterly  continuing education and so we can require show   us that evidence of certificates of completed  continuing education those kind of things right   um there are a number of other sections seven  s specifically addressing parking enforcement   services in accordance with the provisions of the  witch municipal code state and federal law placing   an affirmative Duty on contractor to require  its employees to file tickets in Municipal Court   appear and testify in court you heard that from so  whether it's a city employee writing the citation   or whether it's an operator third party agency  writing this once that citation is entered and   it's put in the court system that process Remains  the Same regardless of who's actually writing the   citation um section 9 D rights reserved to City  including right to make final decision on when   Services may be provided by the contractor city  employees you heard a little bit about that about   that appeal process that all their job is to are  you in violation of the parking code here's your   citation right and then it goes into the system  um and then section 15c requiring daily reports   and details of number of citation issued and  impoundments so on and so forth so uh we felt   as though it was a pretty robust um definition  of what their roles and responsibilities are   what their limit ations on enforcement of of  parking codes and ordinances within the subject area thank you mayor um on the topic of the  impoundments um are we going to go through   the normal City process and as terms of uh  reaching out to the Toe Companies to come   and take a car away that may be immovable  or yes sitting in the spot for a while that's the next set of ordinances that's going  to come back to you all um we are looking at a   process where um the parking officer or car  park could notify much like private property   owners do now that I'm going to tow a car from  my location and that notification would go to   the police department hasn't been determined yet  whether those toes will be handled under the AR   existing impound contract because that would take  some negotiation um or whether it will be treated   just as a a notification to the police department  and treated like a private property toe for La of   a better better analogy because so to be decided  uh we're working on those and we were going to   get this piece done first and then you'll see me  again in a couple weeks probably with an impound   ordinance change well I'm looking forward to okay  thank you um also Troy uh just want to make sure   this is out there car park is not in charge of  the fees the fee rates that's correct all of fees   uh rate structures where to charge fees where  that's all going to be managed recommended   through our traffic engineer and our engineering  department and the city the city controls all   the rates and pricing okay yeah that's one of  the big concerns I have and I'm glad to see   that uh we're not giving control of that  away so I appreciate that thank you thank you I know that our car park individuals are  online right now so they were um I we're there   okay hey great they got back on yep we're back  um I had a question uh regarding uh thank you   for joining us virtually um try mentioned  Scranton Pennsylvania Atlanta Georgia ests   Park Colorado as places where implementation has  happened I wanted to know what um have been some   of the challenges faced by those communities  as they implemented um or any of the successes uh Steve you want to take that one real quick yes  hi Steve Hernandez with the car park I think one   of the most important aspects of implementing  this type of program is to have an effective   stakeholder engagement plan and that is something  that we have put in place with a variety of   meetings that Troy and his team have scheduled  over the course of the of the coming months challenges the most important thing that  we can do is to educate the public and the   benefits of managed and paid parking  and making sure that they understand   the benefits of the program as to create  turnover and it's not necessarily a revenue   generating opportunity it's all about creating  a parking Mobility plan that can support the   local business community and residents so I I  think to summize his main challenges that we've   seen is education of the public whether  it's through uh getting the notice out   there initially and then continuous education  throughout as you roll out the actual program thank you um I will ask Troy to come back up here  um one of the biggest pieces as I just mentioned   regarding or heard regarding challenges is  education of the public that this is not a   revenue generating opportunity despite the fact  that there will be revenue generated 3 million um   can you explain why we are needing some of these  dollars I believe a couple of months ago we talked   about maintenance of parking lots and parking  structures or parking in general enal and that   maintenance does cost money yeah that's correct  um so there's a there's a couple of different   and I kind of put them in two camps right there's  this preventative uh measure in which cities try   to stand up these systems right and then there's  this proactive on the preventative side right yes   we we have deferred maintenance in a number of  our existing structures um we have issues with   loitering and illicit activity and graffiti and  the laundry list goes on and on and on right and   so one of the challenges we have is our parking  fund because of a lack of robust sort of Revenue   structure right we're unable to really respond  to that ongoing um um maintenance and so if you   kind of look at our our parking fund over the last  several years and if you look into the trajectory   it in the future it's not sustainable right we  we've got to do something different if we're going   to try and continue to build on the momentum and  the energy and the excitement and the investment   we're seeing in our downtown right there's issues  around safety and cleanliness that our one of   our goals and objectives is to start respond to  that to start to respond to deferred maintenance   starting to to uh respond to cleanliness and  safety we want to improve the user experience   not just with the interaction with paying for that  parking right but just the interaction of parking   downtown um we want it to be safe and we want  it to be clean and we want folks to be able to   enjoy that experience right that comes at a cost  so the other C is that proactive approach right   so by implementing these strategies and trying to  balance occupancy rates right with rate structure   you adjust rate structure to achieve occupancy  rates industry standard will tell you and this   is in the parking and multimodal plan the goal  is to try to achieve 85% occupancy right in an   85% occupancy environment right a user can  reasonably expect to see one to two to three   available spaces along any block face right  or within any sort of parking lot or structure   right now as you'll see in the study and I  know I'm going to get the numbers wrong but   um right now we have 60% of our downtown is  is real estate is either vacant or some sort   of surface conversation that I would like to  have um extensively at another time um when   business basically going back to we have so  many parking lots that are not utilized and   like you said they're not free so they are Prime  real estate that um are being wasted so to speak   but um also I think some of the businesses  we require to have so many parking spaces and   then they're not being used so I would like to  have a conversation about what that looks like   um at another time um but I appreciate your  comments because they basically echoed what   I wanted to yep thank you thank you very much  Troy we will now open it up for public comment good morning uh Twilight Purity Polo Club District  1 I just have some points after listening to the   presentations for you may want to consider  or reject uh one point is it seems like this   process information process and uh sharing with  dab started in 2019 dang that feels like a long   time ago my guess is technology and so forth has  changed I suppose a lot of people that were on   the Dabs at that time are no longer on the dabs  certainly not to delay this but perhaps it makes   sense for the dabs to hear about this again in its  new iteration on slide 28 there was a reference to   a board or committee I wasn't very clear I didn't  clear really understand it felt like they might   have a lot of authority but not much Community  input so I was a little curious about that um   the revenue question certainly it was it got a  little confusing uh on slide 34 I know tro went   through that quickly there's some Revenue there  were expenses kind of the net revenue uh wasn't   real clear uh there have been um references  to maintenance and maintenance of the parking   lots I haven't I didn't really hear much about  the expense of maintaining and replacing meters   and kiosk and how much has been budgeted for that  or where that money is going to come from I guess   it's going to come from the revenue um let's see  contract deadlines and then just talking about   parking you guys probably don't have to use the  the little City parking meter or not meter but   that system to get in and out of uh City Hall  It's Tricky It's Tricky as heck uh you can't   always get people when you need them um it's  a little confusing to use so these new kiosk I   hope there's opportunities for folks to um look at  them use them and then get feedback like no that's   confusing for me I'm pretty smart gal I come in  too I get my little ticket but it also says scan   here but the arms already up I scan it sometimes I  don't scan it sometimes but that's the instruction   on the little device where you get your ticket  so it's kind of confusing um and who's going to   handle complaints you know complaints on the folks  that are um issuing the citations and so forth   are those going to come to the city what what if  there's complaints of discrimination I mean how   will the city learn about these complaints when  you talk about car park um they gave a list of   cities where they have um contracts I don't know  if the anybody from the city has called those   communities to ask for references but another  question might be what cities have cancelled their   services and why did they cancel those services  and that will finish my comments thanks for your time council member tutle thank you and thank you  for being here we always appreciate your community   engagement I just wanted to address one of the  things that you mentioned talking about this   started in 2019 and it was interrupted by the  pandemic and so you know we had to prioritize   work that was being done and this was still  on our radar but something some things had to   take precedence over this um homelessness and  you know dealing with the pandemic and all of   those kind of things but it did come back to the  dabs in 2023 and so from October um 2022 until   February of 2023 I think there were multiple  engagement opportunities including coming back   to all the Debs with the refresh plan now that  the steering committee was reappointed so I know   you had lots of other questions but that was the  first quick one that I can answer so thank you hi I'm Alan Kaylor I'm here on behalf of bike  walk wah and uh just uh I I hadn't intended   to speak I was actually concerned about this  when I came in but I think uh there's been a   great presentation and some some great questions  from the council members that cleared up a lot of   things I just wanted to uh uh emphasize a couple  of uh different things actually I think the way   that it's been explained I'm in favor of going  going forward with this uh I was a member of the   steering committee uh that uh uh worked on it uh  on the original on the parking plan uh and I think   a lot of the points that have been made uh partly  an answer to your questions and partly otherwise   uh need to be uh emphasized uh the point that the  car park Representatives made about this not being   about Revenue generation but about managing the  the parking downtown I think is important to try   to assure that there be adequate parking down uh  downtown uh at the places that that you want to   park and that requires a a system of management  uh not just slapping parking meters everywhere   and charging uh you know $10 uh flat fee for  it uh but uh the downtown area so that there   be should be some sort of commitment I don't know  you know whether how strong it should needs to be   but some sort of commitment that the uh revenue  generated be put back into the downtown area not   just for repairs and maintenance but to enhance  the downtown area to make it more attractive   to have reason for people to come downtown uh  speaking speaking of which like I say apologize   I didn't have all this written out in advance so  a little disjointed here but one of the reasons   that bike walk Witchita is interested in this is  that our mission is to transform wiah into a more   livable accessible and connected City by making  biking and walking safe Equitable and appealing   and uh the parking plan itself says that one  of the goals of the parking plan is to make the   downtown area more attractive more appealing  and more walkable essentially because it's a   lot more appealing and a lot more productive  to have some productive businesses downtown   rather than empty Park par Lots so that's our  our interest in it uh so using the revenue not   focusing on Revenue but on the parking management  using the revenue that is generated to maintain   and enhance the downtown and then uh the third  concern I had was that uh uh this contract would   be handing over the essentially the management  of the parking to the policy decisions to uh a   third party and I think councilman HH ask about  that uh they're apparently they're not going to   be able to dictate or decide where the meters  are located what Char What charges uh are are   on the meters and importantly for things like an  open streets event you know not be able to say   oh well you can't do that because that's eating  into our our Revenue so I think that's that's   important to do so as I said uh based on the  explanation uh I think that's it's going in the   right direction is consistent with the parking  policy did have one one other area of concern   I've tried toh download the uh the contract the  actual contract several times and the City website   wouldn't let me do it uh all weekend long so I  haven't actually looked at the contract but as I   said the explanation sounds uh very consistent  with the plan so we'd be in favor of it thank you any further comments I see none I'll bring oh Sor counc member glas um can I bring back Troy to  answer just a couple of questions   that have been posed one in particular is  the replacement of meter so the equipment   can you talk about the cost of that  yeah if I get back to the slide deck so uh in response to uh the equipment as you  can see here under that amortised cost column   right it's about $2.5 million um that equipment  will begin to be ordered almost immediately and   again installed across the third and fourth  quarters of this year which is why we won't   necessarily have to start reimbursing the  car park until January of 2025 but it's a   fiveyear amortization of that about to and a half  million dollars worth of equipment so that's why   we've separated out the management fee from  the amortised cost of the reimbursement for   the equipment so the actual management fee  for the purposes of operations management   enforcement is that that management fee thank you  thank you we'll bring it back to the bench now for   further comments council member glov thank you  mayor woo um first off I would just say 99% of   this um I'm totally fine with I think it's a great  plan I believe that free parking is not free um   and I believe that we should hold that from the  bench I have no problems with our conversations   about price meters management or maintenance the  only concern I have is regarding enforcement um   first off I believe that there's an accountability  aspect when you are a public servant and you work   for a government entity versus a private entity  um the public or the private entities are not   held to the same accountability um in the  public sphere as individuals that work for   the city or the county to do um concerns I have  deep concern that this is a setting a press   of allowing private companies to act like public  authorities and you know where does it stop does   that mean we Outsource um aspects when it comes  to animal control does that mean we Outsource   aspects when it comes to citations um for you  know speeding enforcement and so I have the   question of the you know the constitutionality  and the traditional role of government is the   enforcement of laws not private entities and  so that's why it will be a no vote today not   because I believe that we need to reform our  parking system I do I do believe we need to   re re enforce our parking system and improve our  parking system but I have questions regarding the   role of enforcement and I believe that should  solely be role of city employees and the city government council member Johnson thanks mayor um  just one request um should this pass if there is   a way to get um simple expl simple explan exp  ation of some of this on like a flyer um just   came to mind talking about some of this when  I was at the barber shop there was questions   about wow the city's really doing this and I  thought that would be great places to put up   informational Flyers so as we get to a point  where we talk about what the plan looks like   what payment may look like the different  options like maybe having something like   that that we can put in barber shops and  Beauty Sal lines to help communicate with folks and if I a so as part of our communication  strategy here's my teaser it won't just be a flyer   we'll have Flyers we just be we're standing  up an entire website dedicated to park wiah so I will add one comment uh in regards  to what council member Glascock mentioned   I know that um when we have been talking about  enforcement class with Law Department would that   be maybe an an additional item within the classes  that these individuals would have as um upholding   obviously our public servant role in taxpayer  dollars and and reminding them again of the   importance of what we're trying to do is not  to gain revenue but simply to recoup costs to   maintain properties that again are for the public  good Council member Tuttle thank you um and just   kind of a followup from the communication  plan I'm I'm not a communication expert I   leaned into the smart people who are right but  just one thought along the lines of um council   member Johnson I think that we've heard in the  past already some people who come downtown not   as frequently are the ones who are the most  concerned about this right and and oftentimes   the reason they come down is because they're  enjoying our uh performing arts and so it   might even be worth asking our Partners within  the Performing Arts field um if they would be   willing to put a link to our new website on  their website so when people are purchasing   their tickets they also have the information  readily available it's just a thought but from   what we've seen so far the people are the most  concern concerned about this and the changes are   the folks who just come down occasionally for  for different opportunities in our core thank you any further comments council member glass  H I would be interested in offering a motion   to add to this agreement under item F let  me see what the larger number is it'd be   page 1415 um regarding training that it says  employee training shall include at minimum   the following and that list seven different  items and item number eight regarding some   aspect of constitutionality law enforce ment  um regarding some level of an oath of office   I would be interested in adding that to  um this agreement that's not a motion   for me to improve the agreement that's  just a motion for me to add that to this agreement is that possible in terms of  legal how we draft that up it would be   a negotiated term to the contract I think  that's up to Troy to discuss yeah so I I   think we can I mean we've already had that  sort of informal conversation with uh the   car park and they were amendable to that right  and so um I think we can try to maybe negotiate   some very specific language and make sure that  our legal team and their te legal team agrees   with the language and then again if it's  an opportunity to introduce that as part   of a future Amendment or we could certainly  look at that y yeah we're amendable to it how would this uing a motion with the additional item number can make that motion and direct staff to  pursue that negotiation and bring it back as an   addendum and can I make that motion to adem to  let's say item f um number eight and then again   not the whole contract approval just adding that  to this agreement before we vote on the contract approval that'd be two separate votes  if you want to do it that way you can do that so I would make a motion that we to section  s item F and then adding a point G um once in   negotiations and we can bring this back regarding  constitutionality in Enforcement Training um and I   would leave up to legal counsil to determine  maybe the specifics of what that would look like second we have a motion and a second any further  discussion Madame clerk please open the role motion passes 70 now coming back to  the item at hand entire entirety of   the contract is there a motion to approve that I'm move to approve the amended  contract second motion and a second   any further discussion I see none  Madame clerk please open in the role motion passes 61 Madam  clerk please call the next item PUD 20247 zone change requests in  the city from GC General commercial to   PUD planned unit development to permit  the use of site for outdoor display   sale but allow a gravel surface and  adjust screening requirements look   located on the north side of West Kellogg  within 1 half M south of 135th Street West good morning Scott wle from the planning  department here to present this one for this   case as you heard the applicant is requesting to  rezone the property from GC General commercial   District to plan unit development which is  custom zoning this item is being heard today   because it because protests have been received  against the application in terms of the request   the applicant has received notices for violations  of the unified zoning code and is requesting the   rezoning in order to come into compliance  the requested custom zoning would provide   exceptions to screening requirements and Paving  and surfacing of offet parking the applicant has   also indicated they are requesting the rezoning  so that they can develop the northern portion   of the property for self storage in terms  of the property as you can see here on the   graphic the site is generally located north and  west west of the intersection of cogg and 135th   Street a subject site consists of two Parcels is  approximately 1194 acres in size Zone GC General   commercial and is developed with an office and  sales facility the property is currently in use   for shipping container sales business in terms  of context properties to the north are zoned sf5   single family residential and are developed with  single family dwellings property to the South   across Kellogg is Zone GC and currently  undeveloped property to the east is Zone   GC and in use as open space for the Auburn Hills  subdivision directly west of the subject site is   unimproved ride of way property further to  the West is own GC and undeveloped in terms   of the staff report the staff report provides  information about screening and Paving in addition   attached to the staff report is the text for  the proposed custom zoning District in terms of   review on May 8th the district Advisory Board  recommended denial their vote was 4 to3 no   members of the public spoke on this item at that  meeting on May 9th the Planning Commission held   the public hearing for this item and recommended  denial the vote was 7 to five seven members of the   public spoke in opposition and requested zone  change with concerns regarding impact to value   of their property runoff into the cowskin creek  increased noise and the visual character of the   surrounding neighborhood and incompatibility  with the development 22 protest petitions were   received for this case they totaled 7.3% of the  protest area it was under the 20% threshold State   threshold and therefore it can be of course  the application could be denied with a simple   majority vote in terms of council action it is  recommended the city council adopt the findings   of the Planning Commission and deny the requested  zone change again requiring a simple majority of 4   of seven Alternatives include the following  you can override the Planning Commission adopt   alternative findings and approve the zone change  request or as always you can return the case to   the mapc for additional consideration again that  will require a simple majority and with that I'll   take you through some of the graphics so here's  the areial with an outline of the site you can see   the shipping containers that are actually present  already here's a zoning map of the site you can   see GC in the area and sf5 immediately to the  north here's the map from the comprehensive plan   showing that new employment and new employment  mix uh is in the area recommended here's a graphic   that was submitted as part of the Pud as part  of the application here's the protest map again   just over 7% represented in the protest area here  are photos from the site in the surrounding area and just a quick note about process city  council policy to accept the public hearing   at the Planning Commission meeting and not at  the city council so with that I'll stand for any questions questions for staff you see none  again these items do not get a public comment   so council member glasa thank you Madame  mayor uh because of additional information   that's come in the case I believe it  be appropriate to return back to MPC   for further review so pursuant to city council  policy 9ine I move that it would return back to mapc Second motion on a second any further  discussion I see none Madam clerk please open the RO motion passes 70 Madam  clerk please call the next item approval of travel for mayor woo and  council members hoisel and Glascock to   tour Greenwood rising in Tulsa Oklahoma June 14th 2024 I move to approve the travel second motion  and a second any further discussion you see none   Madame clerk please open the r motion passes 70  Madame clerk please call the next item council   member appointments and comments we'll start with  appointments council member Johnston I'll defer   until you have comments this time sorry any  uh appointments at this time I see none we'll   now council member comment beginning with council  member Johnston thank you mayor I would just like   to clarify my comments from our City Council  budget workshop on June the 4th I encourage   people to watch the video of that meeting my  comments said to look at all options to balance   the city budget in 2026 2027 and 2028 I did not  say lay off 42 firefighters we must begin these   discussions now and get our community input to  determine Community priorities and ways to address   this deficit to be clear I do not want to raise  taxes and it's an option thank you council member   Johnson thanks mayor um just wanted to publicly  say the district Advisory Board last night um   there was a member of a neighborhood that had some  really strong concerns about the lack of being   able to interact online at MPC meetings and um  Wanted uh the mapc to change their policy back to   to allow um comment and Engagement online not just  watching um I told him that I would um publicly   say that on his behalf he will be reaching out as  well to every member of mapc to encourage them to   change their policy and I will also say that I  personally disagreed with that decision when it   was made to um not allow public comment um online  virtually and and just in person I think all of us   whether we run for office or seek appointment to  these seats uh our duty is to listen to the public   we don't always have to agree but uh limiting that  ability to engage online for folks who uh work all   day is I think u a hindrance to uh the process so  just wanted to publicly say that on his behalf he   did bring it up at the district Advisory Board The  Advisory Board also agreed as well um but at the   time he said that we lost Quorum so there was no  vote so I'm saying it on behalf of the board today no further comments I will add just two  additional things uh first thank you very   much to council member ho Heisel for hosting  the district number three breakfast over the   weekend where we had a robust conversation uh  with community members in District 3 which is   Southwest Southeast Witchita um and among those  were obvious obviously these budgetary constraints   that we have and reminding community that we  will make tough decisions and those require   Community engagement and so I appreciate when  people show up to not just dab meetings but to   breakfast to community meetings because we do  listen we do take that into consideration but   I also want to remind community that we do have  a CommunityWide survey and that CommunityWide   survey shared spe specific priorities that we  need to focus on and those priorities happen to   be Crime streets and economic development while  homelessness was not one of the questions asked   on that survey I know that Community has asked  us to also be part of this conversation to be   a collaborator and to help with Community coming  up with Solutions together and so again I wanted   to say thank you to council member hoisel  for hosting that and to those who attended   uh Saturday's multi- agency um Center meeting  alongside vice mayor Ballard um again we really   appreciate people getting engaged and providing  feedback as well as helping us together come up   with Solutions last but not least because  I think it's very appropriate to end on a   good note um I just wanted to say thank you to  the hundreds of volunteers who dedicated their   time for River Festival these last nine days I  saw their sweat and uh their hard work not uh   go unnoticed by those of us in community who  attended the River Festival so I just wanted   to publicly say thank you to the volunteers  who chose to give up their personal time to   make sure that we continue to have a community  tradition known as Riverfest and thank you to   our First Responders who were there to make sure  that we were safe and had again a celebration of   community and finally I wanted to say thank you  to uh the Hispanic Community who asked the city   council to make a proclamation regarding um the  uh Festival as an opportunity to be a Fiesta Del   Rio day on Friday I want people to know that you  can always ask for proclamations to be um voted on   by the council and the way that proclamations  work is you go to our website you fill out a   proclamation request form then the council members  the seven of us get an email where we then reply   back whether we approve or deny and if it has four  approvals it moves forward and then when that gets   approved the mayor has the opportunity to choose  to or choose not to to read the proclamation so   again I am grateful that the Hispanic Community  chose to ask for a proclamation that we had at   least four votes and then I was proud to stand  alongside council member Glascock as we presented   that Proclamation at River Festival to not just  Festival goers but to all those who were there   in support of Riverfest Council vice mayor Ballard  thank you mayor um I also just wanted to publicly   thank everyone um including Troy and the other  staff members that showed up to the community   meeting on Saturday it was um a I thought it was  a a great meeting there were some really hard um   conversations that were had but um just to see a  room full of people that really care um and want   to be engaged in the process whatever that may  look like um on a Saturday afternoon in the mle   of River Fest I really appreciate um the effort  that was that was put forth for that and it's   really hard to eat as many ice cream sandwiches as  possible in 3 minutes so I tied and then I had to   do it again for another minute and it was harder  than I thought Paxon and I even practiced and the   pressure made it worse so did you win did you win  um I tied for second and then I took third so um uh council member hoisel thank you  mayor uh just one quick point I am   really disappointed and my colleagues  were not coming through in these eating   competitions I mean ice cream sandwich  uh funnel cakes one funnel cake I mean   that that's all I'm going to say is we need  to step our game up here noted with that is   there a motion to adjourn our meeting motion  to adjourn second Madame clerk please open the rooll motion passes 61 thank you very much