>> Mayor Muns: I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY OPEN MEETING IS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL COUNCILMEMBERS ARE PRESENT. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARIA TU IS ON ZOOM. OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE PRELIMINARY AGENDA IS CONSIDERATION IN ACTION RESULTING FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. FIRST ITEM IS PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS. ITEM A, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. >> Ricciardelli: DO YOU NOT TO TAKE THAT? OKAY. THERE WE GO. COUNCILMEMBER SMITH AND I HAVE CONFERRED. WE WOULD LIKE TO REAPPOINT REGULAR MEMBER CONNOR BARRON AND REGULAR MEMBER MONSEUR SARINI AND KAREN BELLESSA AND JOSE REAUGH AFINI. LL MAKE THAT A MOTION >> Mayor Muns: WE'LL DO HAND VOTING NOT ONLY FOR THE POM BUT FOR THE REGULAR VOTING TOO. WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. I HAVE A MOTION. DID YOU SECOND THAT? I'M SORRY. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE REAPPOINTMENTS FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. ALL IN FAVOR? >> MARIA RAISED HER HAND. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. MOTION PASSES 8-0. BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION. >> BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS AND I HAVE CONFERRED, WE WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THESE REAPPOINTMENTS TO OUR NEXT MEETING. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. I. >> Ricciardelli: I'LL MAKE THAT A MOTION. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO DEFER OR TABLE THE REAPPOINTMENTS FOR BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION. ALL IN FAVOR. HANK YOU. MOTIO PASSES 8-0. HERITAGE COMMISSION. >> Ricciardelli: WELL, I GUESS DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TU AND I HAVE CONFERRED, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO REAPPOINT NANCY BALDWIN, LEAVING THREE VACANCIES, AND I SO MOVE. >> Tu: MARIA TU SECONDS. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO REAPPOINT NANCY BALDWIN TO THE HERITAGE COMMISSION. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES 8-0. THANK YOU. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. >> COUNCILMEMBER HORNE AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS AND WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THIS UNTIL THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO DEFER P&Z'S APPOINTMENTS TO THE AUGUST 14th MEETING. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES 8-0. OUR NEXT ITEM IS PERSONNEL REAPPOINTMENTS. ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE. >> MR. MAYOR, ON THIS PARTICULAR ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE'D LIKE TO RETAIN MADELYN NORRIS ON THE COMMITTEE. AND WE WILL HAVE TWO OPENINGS. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR THE REAPPOINTMENT OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE. ALL IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES8-0. CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO REAPPOINT KENNY ROBE AS CHAIR. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT KENNY ROBE TO THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION. >> Mayor Muns: NOT EVEN CLOSE. >>> PENNY ROBE. >> PENNY. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> Mayor Muns: ALL IN FAVOR OF REAPPOINTING PENNY ROVE FOR CIVIL SERVICOMMISSION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. GOT US MOVING. MOTION PASSES 8-0. THANK YOU. COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION. >> Ricciardelli: SO COUNCILMEMBER HORNE AND I HAVE CONFERRED ABOUT THIS, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THESE APPOINTMENTS TO THE FIRST MEETING IN JULY. SO I WILL MOVE TO TABLE. >> AUGUST. >> Ricciardelli: AUGUST, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, NOT THE JULY 24th? >> Ricciardelli: EITHER WAY, AUGUST, THAT'S PERFECT. [ LAUGHTER ] OKAY, AUGUST, THAT'S MY MOTION. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO DEFER COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION REAPPOINTMENTS TO THE AUGUST 14th MEETING. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES 8-0. THANK YOU. CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION. >> COUNCILMEMBER TU AND I HAVE CONFERRED ON THIS, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO DEFER OUR DECISION TO THE AUGUST 14th MEETING, MAKE A MOTION. >> Tu: MARIA TUSECONDS. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. MOTION AND SECOND TO DEFER THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES 8-0, THANK YOU. LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. >> Ricciardelli: LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, I BELIEVE THAT THEY MAY BE COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS AND MYSELF. I'D LIKE TO DEFER THAT TO THE NEXT -- IS IT -- I MAY HE TT WRONG. >> Williams: I THOUGHT FOR LIBRARY ADVISORY, WE WERE GOING TO APPROVE ALL OF THE REAPPLICANTS. IT WAS BUILDING STANDARDS THAT WE WERE GOING TO DEFER. >> Ricciardelli: YES, YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. I'VE GOT SO MANY PIECES OF PAPER HERE. I LOST SOMETHING IN THE SHUFFLE. [ LAUGHTER ] IN ANY EVENT, OKAY. LET ME TAKE A SHOT AT THIS. WE WOULD LIKE TO REAPPOINT JESSICA BARTNICK, YU DONG, ADAM GRIFFITH, AND CAROL SEWELL. AND I'LL MAKE THAT A MOTION. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO REAPPOINT BARTNICK, DONG, GRIFFITH AND SEWELL. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES 8-0. >> Ricciardelli: I'M SO SORRY. THE CITY MANAGER JUST POINTED SOMETHING OUT AS I WAS SHUFFLING THOSE AROUND. I ACCIDENTALLY READ OFF AAME TT WAS NOTN REAPPOINTMENT. I WILL MOVE TO MODIFY THE MOTION THAT WE JUST PASSED, I GUESS, SO THAT WE ARE REAPPOINTING JESSICA BARTNICK, ADAM GRIFFITH, AND CAROL SEWELL, LEAVING TWO OPENINGS. MY APOLOGIES FOR THE MISTAKE. >> Williams: SECOND IT A SECOND TIME. >> Mayor Muns: MOTION AND A SECOND TO AMEND THE MOTION FOR BARTNICK, GRIFFITH, AND SEWELL. IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES 8-0. THANK YOU. PARKS AND REC, PLANNING BOARD. >> MR. MAYOR, WE WANT TO RETAIN JUSTIN ADKOCH, RYAN (INDISCERNIBLE), AND WE HAVE TWO OPENINGS. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ADKOCH, SHAPUT, AND PAGEANT. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES 8-0. THANK YOU. PLANO HOUSING AUTHORITY, I WILL DEFER THOSE UNTIL AUGUST 14th. I MAKE A MOTION. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DEFER PLANO HOUSING AUTHORITY UNTIL AUGUST 14th. ALL IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES. PLANO IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION. I'D LIKE TO REAPPOINT JACK CARR, DEPUTYITY MANAGER AS THE COUNCIL-APPOINTED DIRECTOR. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO REAPPOINT JACK CARR IN THE PLANO IMPROVEMENT CORPORATION. ALL IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES, 8-0. RETIREMENT SECURITY PLAN COMMITTEE. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO DEFER ACTION ON THIS UNTIL THE AUGUST 14th MEETING. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER HORNE AND I HAVE CONFERRED ON THIS, AND WE WILL BE REAPPOINTING SHERRY SKAMARO, AND WE HAVE THREE MEMBERS THAT REQUESTED NOT TO BE REAPPOINTED, BOLLAND, GRIEZDOOR, AND RAMO, LEAVING US WITH THREE OPENINGS. I'LL MAKE THAT A MOTION. >> I'LL SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR THE SENIOR VISO BOARD REAPPOINTMENT FOR SHERRY SKARMATO. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES 8- OH. -- 8-0. TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER TWO AND THREE BOARDS. SMITH AND -- >> (OFF MIC). >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS AND I HAVE CONFERRED, AND WE WILL BE -- LET'S SEE -- REAPPOINTING THE CHAIR COREY RODIKERR AND JASON TYRA AND, LET'S SEE, LIZ LANCING AND TRACY McDANIEL. AND THAT WILL LEAVE US WITH FOUR VACANCIES ON THIS BOARD. AND I MAKE THAT A MOTION. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO REAPPOINT THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REINVESTMENT ZONE TWO AND THREE BOARDS FOR THE FOUR PEOPLE MENTIONED. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES 8-0. JUST ENOUGH TIME TO GET TO THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT REPORT BY CARRIE LITTLE. NO PRESSURE >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE. THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND COUNCIL. SO WE WILL GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY BECAUSE I KNOW WE ARE IN A TIME CRUNCH. I AM HERE TONIGHT TOIV Y'A A VERY BRIEF UPDATE ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN UP TO IN OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE. IN 2022. AND A LITTLE SNIPPET ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO THIS YEAR. SO WE HAVE A BRIEF-BUT-LOFTY MISSION STATEMENT FOR OUR OFFICE. THE MISSION OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE IS TO RESTORE COMMUNITY SAFETY AND CONFIDENCE BY BRINGING ORDER TO THE CHAOS FOLLOWING DISASTER. SO WE DO THAT IN A VARIETY OF WAYS. WE AREORTUNA TO HAVE A RELATIVELY LARGE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STAFF. WE ARE FUNDED FOR NINE POSITIONS. TWO OF THOSE ARE PART-TIME POSITIONS. ALTHOUGH, I HAVE ASKED FOR ONE OF THOSE PART-TIME POSITIONS TO BECOME A FULL-TIME POSITION BECAUSE OF CHANGES TO WORKLOAD AND SOME OF THE EXPECTATIONS THAT HAVE COME TO OUR OFFICE AND CHANGES IN SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR OFFICE, ESPECIALLY POST-COVID. WE ORGANIZE OUR FUNCTIONS AROUND THREE MAIN THEMES, TO DEVELOP READINESS, COORDINATE RESPONSE AND EXPEDITE RECOVERY, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THESE VERY, VERY BRIEFLY. VERY QUICKLY, OUR 2022 YEAR-END REVIEW, AND THAT IS VERY SMALL. SO I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE. BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE BRIEFLY. AT THE BEGINNING OF 2022, OUR FRIENDS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FIRE TRAINING, WAS CO-LOCATED IN OUR OFFICE. OUR OFFICE IS ACTUALLY DESIGNED TO HOUSE TEN STAFF MEMBERS. WE HAD 16 IN OUR OFFICE, WHICH MEANT WE WERE DOUBLED UP. WE WERE USING CONFERENCE ROOMS AS OFFICES, AND WE HAD TWO PEOPLE IN OFFICES. AND SO WE WERE SNUG IN OUR LITTLE OFFICE. BUT JANUARY WE STARTED WITH OUR EOC HOSTING THE FIRST OUT OF 63 OUTSIDE TRAININGS AND MEETINGS. IN FEBRUARY, WE RESUMED CLASSES FOR OUR BOY SCOUTS. WE OFFERED SEVEN CLASSES OVER THE YEARS. BUT WE OFFER A CLASS WHERE THE SCOUTS ACTUALLY GET THE MAJORITY, THE BULK OF THEIR REQUIREMENTS FOR THEIR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS BADGE. WE ALSO PUBLISHED THE WINTER STORM URY AFTER ACTION REPORT. FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL EVERY MONDAY AND WEDNESDAY, WE WORKED TO RUN ALL OF OUR POLICE FIRE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERSONNEL THROUGH ACTIVE SHOOTER DRILLS. WE HAD GONE TO TRAINING IN OCTOBER OF 2021 WHERE THE ACTIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT RAPID RESPONSE TRAINING OUT OF SAN MARCOS ACTUALLY HAD DONE A STUDY SHOWING THAT THE MOST HAZARDOUS RESPONSES FOR POLICE AND FIRE PERSONNEL WERE ACTUALLY OUTDOOR EVENTS DURING ACTIVE SHOOTER EVENTS. SO WE CONDUCTED A DRILL AT THE RED TAIL PAVILION AND LED EVERY FIREFIGHTER THROUGH THAT DRILL. WE'RE BRINGING A PLAN TO YOU FOR ADOPTION. IN JUNE OF 2022, WE HAD THE HAZMATOR THE H-MAT CITIZEN AND INTERESTED PARTY SURVEY GO OUT. IN JULY, WE HAD SOME UPGRADES TO OUR EOC VIDEO TELECONFERENCING IN ALL OF OUR ROOMS. WE HAD DONE A LARGE UPGRADE IN 2017 AND 2018. DID NOT ALLOW VIDEO TELECONFERENCING IN EVERY SINGLE ROOM. WE REALIZED DURING COVID, THAT WAS A MISTAKE, AND WE NEEDED TO CORRECT THAT. IN SEPTEMBER, WE BROUGHT OUR COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN TO COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION. IN SEPTEMBER WE ALSO SUBMITTED OUR HAZARD MITIGATION ACTION PLAN TO T-DEM FOR OUR INITIAL REVIEW IN SEPTEMBER. IT'S JUNE, WE'RE FINALLY BRINGING IT TO Y'ALL FOR ADOPTION BEFORE SENDING IT BACK TO TDEM AND FEMA FOR FINAL APPROVAL. IN OCTOBER WE HOSTED ADDITIONAL CLASSES AND TRAINING. THEN IN NOVEMBER WE HOSTED TRAINING FOR THE TEXAS HIGHWAY PATROL. THAT WAS UNIQUE FOR US. THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE HAD HOSTED TRAINING. WE HOSTED FOUR CLASSES FOR THEM. WE HAD 50 TROOPERS IN OUR BUILDING, KIND OF FUN. OVERALL, WE HAD 63 TRAININGS IN OUR BUILDING FOR OUTSIDE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES. FIRE TRAINING MOVED OUT OF OUR BUILDING IN SEPTEMBER. I KNOW CHIEF BIGGERSTAFF TALKED TO YOU ABOUT HOW EXCITED HE WAS. WE LOVE OUR FIRE FRIENDS. WE WERE ALSO EQUALLY EXCITED THAT THEY MOVED OUT AND THAT WE WENT BACK TO USING OUR BUILDING JUST FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAINING THAT WE DID. WE ALSO HOSTED ABOUT 15 OUTSIDE AGENCIES FOR TOURS OF OUR BUILDING. WE USED AV IN A UNIQUE WAY IN OUR EOC, SO A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO SEE HOW THAT IS USED. UNDER DEVELOP READINESS, SOCIAL MEDIA HAS BEEN A VERY BIG TOOL FOR US. THESE ARE A COUPLE OF THE MORE FUNNY AND POP ALREADY SOCIAL MEDIA TOOLS OR SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS. ONE IS HOW WE EXPLAIN A WATCH VERSUS A WARNING. ONE IS TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT WE HAVE OUTDOOR WARNING SIRENS AND NOT JUST TORNADO SIRENS. AND THEN ONE WAS DURING THE WINTER STORM INSIDE IT'S WARM AND COZY, OUTSIDE IT'S REALLY UGLY. THERE COULD BE BEARS. WE DON'T KNOW. BUT WE HAVE SEEN A HUGE INCREASE, HUNDREDS PERCENT INCREASE IN BOTH TWITTER AND FACEBOOK SINCE WE HAVE TAKEN A MORE HUMOROUS APPROACH TO THAT. COMMUNITY CONTACT HOURS IN 2022, WE WERE JUST COMING BACK AND THINGS WERE BECOMING MORE NORMAL. WE WERE AT -- WE DID 26 DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS AND FESTIVALS AND EVENTS. THERE WAS A TOTAL OF 115 CONTACT HOURS. IN 2023 WE'VE ALREADY DONE (INDISCERNIBLE) NOT TOTAL HOURS. THAT'S HOW LONG -- IN THAT THAT'S NOT TOTAL HOURS OF STAFF. THAT'S JUST HOW LONG EACH OF THE EVENTS WHEN YOU ADD THEM UP WERE. I HAVE A VERY SHORT VIDEO THAT WE'RE GOING TO PLAY ABOUT CERT. OOPS. MAYBE NOT. >> WE TEACH PEOPLE CONFIDENCE. THE CONFIDENCE THAT SHOULD A SITUATION ARISEHAT YOU HAVE THE CAPABILITIES TO REACT TO THAT SITUATION. >> IT'S REALLY EMPOWERING TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE WHAT'S GOING TO BE THERE, WHAT'S GOING TO COME FOR THE PEOPLE. OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE MADE UP OF REALLY EVERYONE. THEY ARE SOME OF THE MOST AMAZING PEOPLE THAT YOU'LL EVER MEET. THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT AND ALL WANT TO BE PART OF OUR CERT PROGRAM FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS. >> EVERYBODY BRINGS A SKILL. THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF CERT. >> SO WE HAVE A CERT PROGRAM. IT STARTED, AGAIN, IN THE FALL. THAT SHOULD BE 2022. BUT WE STARTED THAT BACK UP AGAIN PREVIOUSLY IN THE FALL OF 2022, IT WAS AN EIGHT-WEEK COURSE. WE'VE SHORTENED IT TO A THREE-DAY COURSE, A WEEKEND COURSE THAT WAS A WILDLY POPULAR OFFERING. WE'VE TRAINED OVER 300 PEOPLE SINCE WE STARTED CERT. LAST YEAR WE OFFERED SEVEN COURSES AND TRAINED OVER 100 SCOUTS. THIS YEAR WE'VE ALREADY OFFERED THREE COURSES AND TRAINED ABOUT 60 SCOUTS. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF PLANNING. LAST YEAR WE UPDATED OUR COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN. WE'VE DONE AN EXTENSIVE REWRITE TO OUR HAZARD MITIGATION ACTION PLAN. DEVELOPED FACILITY EMERGENCY PLANS. AND THEN WE'VE DONE AN UPDATE TO OUR ACTIVE THREAT PROGRAM GUIDANCE. WHILE WE'VE LED THESE EFFORTS, THESE EFFORTS ARE TRULY GROUP EFFORTS. WE DEAL WITH ALL OF OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS IN THIS PROCESS. WE'RE COORDINATING THE EFFORTS, WORKING WITH ALL OF OUR FFERT DEPARTMEN AND OUTSIDE AGENCIES. FOR OUR HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT ADMINISTRATION, OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS WE'VE MANAGED ABOUT $2.5 MILLION WORTH OF GRANTS. WE USE THESE GRANTS TO EQUIP PRIMARILY OUR POLICE AND FIRE SPECIALIZED UNITS WITH EQUIPMENT. WE COORDINATE RESPONSE THROUGH DIFFERENT TRAINING. LAST YEAR WE OFFERED TRAINING ON SOME INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE. SOME OF OUR TRAININGVARIOUS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENTPROGRAMS. THIS YEAR WE'RE ROLLING OUT OUR FACILITY EMERGENCY PLANS. WE'RE CONDUCTING SOME TRAINING, BRINGING SOME OUTSIDE AGENCIES IN TO HELP US WITH THAT. UPCOMING, WE'RE DOING AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ACADEMY, HELPING PEOPLE BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THEIR ROLES IN THE EOC. AND THEN ALSO OFFERING TRAINING ON OUR INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TOOL WITHIN THE EOC THAT'S CALLED WEB EOC. WE PARTICIPATE IN EXERCISES. WE CONDUCT DRILLS AND PARTICIPATE IN DRILLS WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS AND OUTSIDE AGENCIES. WE CONDUCT THAT LARGE ACTIVE THREAT EXERCISE WITH OUR POLICE, FIRE, AND DISPATCH DEPARTMENTS EVERY OTHER YEAR. AND THEN THIS NOVEMBER, WE'LL BE GOING UP TO EMMETSBURG TO THE TRAINING ACADEMY TO DO A WEEK-LONG DRILL AS WELL. WE DO WEATHER WARNINGS. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THIS BRIEFLY. WE MONITOR WEATHER, MY STAFF WHETHER OR NOTE NE TO SOUND THE OUTDOOR WARNING SIRENS. IN 2022, THERE WERE 24 DIFFERENT DAYS THAT WE HAD TO WATCH STORMS. IN 2023, WE'VE HAD A BANNER YEAR. THERE HAVE ALREAD BEEN 21 DAYS WHERE WE'VE HAD TO WATCH STORMS. AND SAYING WE'VE HAD TO WATCH STORMS, THAT IS STORMS THAT COME THROUGH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. THERE ARE SOME DAYS HERE WE MIGHT BE WATCHING A STORM AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING AND THEN AGAIN AT 10:00 P.M. IN A NIGHT JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE WEATHER IS SETTING UP. I COULD NOT GIVE A PRESENTATION WITHOUT MENTIONING OUR OUTDOOR WARNING SIRENS MUCH WE HAVE 43 SIRENS. THEY SOUND FOR FOUR REASONS. ONE, WE HAVE A CONFIRMED TORNADO IN THE CITY OF PLANO. TWO, WE HAVE A TORNADO WARNING THAT IS NAMING PLANO. THREE, WE HAVE HAIL THAT IS AN INCH AND A HALF OR GREATER. FOUR, WE HAVE A WARNING WITH THE CRITERIA OF DESTRUCTIVE WINDS 70 MILES PER HOUR OR GREATER. WEVER, THE SIRENS ONLY MEAN ONE THING, AND THAT IS TO GO INSIDE AND GET MORE INFORMATION. THAT'S ALL THEY MEAN. JUST ONE THING. WE EXPEDITE RECOVERY BY ASSISTING WITH THE REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS SOME NUMBERS REAL QUICK. COVID EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE, WE HAD APPROXIMATELY $1.6 MILLION WORTH OF FUNDING THAT HAS BEEN REIMBURSED THAT WE SUBMITTED FOR AND WAS REIMBURSED THAT WAS FROM COVID. WE HAD APPROXIMATELY $1.4 MILLION THAT HAS BEEN REIMBURSED FROM THE COVID VACCINATION CLINICS THAT WERE RUN. ANOTHER ALMOST HALF A MILLION DOLLARS THAT IS STILL PENDING REVIEW. AND THEN FROM WINTER STORM URI, THERE WAS A LITTLE OVER $200,000 THAT WAS SUBMITTED FOR AND THAT HAS BEEN REIMBURSED. FOR MITIGATION, OUR HAZARD MITIGATION ACTION PLAN WILL COME UP FOR ADOPTION LATER ON TODAY. AND TN THEIR HAZD MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAMS, THAT WILL BE OPENED UP NOW THAT OUR WINTER HAZARD MITIGATION ACTION PLAN RECEIVES FINAL APPROVAL FROM BOTH TDEM AND FEMA, AND THOSE ARE DISASTER MITIGATION GRANT FUNDS, A HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM AND A FLOOD MITIGATION ASSISTANCE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMUNITY GRANT OR BRICK GRANT. I STAYED WITHIN MY TIME. & [ LAUGHTER ] >> Mayor Muns: YOU DID VERY GOOD. >> SO THAT WAS A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK ME OR I CAN ANSWER THEM. >> WE'LL GATHER ANY QUESTIONS AND CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU. I THINK EVERYBODY WILL GET A MUCH DEEPER UNDERSTANDING IN NOVEMBER. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU, ANDREW, WHEN WE START THE REGULAR MEETING. BUT I DO WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS TAKEN CARE . ANY ITEM SOMEONE WANTS TO PULL, CONSENT AGENDA? THE ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDAS? OKAY. WE WILL START THE REGULAR MEETING. I NOW DECLAR THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IS RECONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. MARIA TU, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARIA TU, IS ON ZOOM. WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY JOSH CONNER, ASSOCTE PASTER WITH PARKWAY HILLS BAPTIST AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WITH THE GIRL SCOUT AMBASSADOR TROOP 3460 WITH PLANO SENIOR HIGH. PLEASE RISE >> WOULD YOU PRAY WITH ME? ALMIGHTY GOD, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE EIGHT MEMBERS OF THIS TEAM THAT LEAD OUR CITY. WE THANK YOU THAT NOW FOR 150 YEARS YOU HAVE BLESSED THIS CITY WI MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN GRANTED WISDOM TO LEAD FORWARD AND TO LEAD THIS TO BE A CITY OF EXCELLENCE. GOD, AS WE MEET TONIGHT AND SPEAK OF VERY IMPORTANT THINGS IN THE LIFE OF THE CITY OF PLANO, WOULD YOU GRANT WISDOM TO OUR MAYOR, TO OUR CITY COUNCIL, TO THEIR TEAMS WHO SUPPORT THEM, THAT WE MIGHT CONTINUE TO SEEK THE WELFARE OF THIS CITY AND TO SEE ITS PROSPERITY? WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE GIFT OF YOUR MERCY, AND WE PRAY THAT IT WOULD GO OUT TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS GREAT CITY. WE PRAY ALL THESE THINGS FOR JESUS' SAKE. AMEN. (PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE) (TEXAS PLEDGE) >> Mayor Muns: BE SEATED. COME HERE. [ LAUGHTER ] COME ON, YOU CAN DO THIS. THANK YOU, GUYS, SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS. WE APPRECIATE IT. JOSH, COME ON DOWO TAKE A PICTURE, IF YOU DON'T MIND. MAN AFTER MY OWN HEART. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO I HAVE THE HONOR OF READING A PROCLAMATION. JULY IS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH. AS LONG AS WE CAN STAND THE HEAT, IT'S A GREAT MONTH. I'D LIKE TO CALL FORWARD RON SMITH, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC, RENEE JORDAN, PARK PLANNING MANAGER, SUSY HERGENRIDER, RECREATION SERVICES MANAGER, DAVE ANGELIS, AND KELLY CRIMONES. IT'S MY HONOR TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION BECAUSE I DON'T THK THE'S A TIME WHEN I'M OUT AND ABOUT IN PLANO OR WHEREVER I AM BRAGGING ABOUT PLANO. MOST OF THE TIME I'M TALKING ABOUT PARKS AND RECS BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN HONORED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND THE STATE FOR BEING SUCH A GREAT PLACE. AND OUR PARKS ARE NUMBER ONE IN TEXAS AND RIGHT AT THE TOP IN THE UNITED STATES. WE HAVE 85 PARKS. WE PROBABLY HAVE MORE THAN THAT NOW, BUT I'M GOING TO GO WITH 85. AND ALL OF THOSE PARKS AND THE RECREATION CENTERS THAT WE HAVE ARE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE TO OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY, WHICH MAKES IT SUCH A WONDERFUL ASSET TO HAVE THE PARKS AND RECREATION HERE IN PLANO THAT WAS PLANNED YEARS AND YEARS AGO. AND NOW WE, QUITE FRANKLY, RECEIVED THE BENEFIT OF ALL THE PARKS THAT WE HAVE IN PLANO. SO WITH THAT, IT'S MY HONOR TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS EVERY TIME SINCE -- EVERY YEAR SINCE 1985, JULY HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED AS NATIONAL PARKS AND RECATIO MONTH. WITH THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PASSING AN OFFICIAL RESOLUTION IN 2009. WHEREAS PLANO PARKS AND RECREATION RANKS NUMBER ONE IN THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS. NUMBER 16 IN THE U.S. IN THE 2023 TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND ANNUAL PARKS SCORES. WHEREAS ADDITIONAL REMARKABLE ACCOLADES INCLUDE BEING NAMED THE NATIONAL ACCREDITED AGENCY, A FOUR-TIME NATIONAL GOLD MEDAL AWARD FOR PARKS AND RECREATION EXCEENCE, AS WELL A A FINALIST FOR THE 2023 GOLD MEDAL AWARD. WHEREAS FOR OVER 50 YEARS, UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF VISIONARY LEADERS, THE PLANO PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT HAS EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS BY DELIVERING INCOMPARABLE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT A ROBUST PARK SYSTEM. CONSISTING OF MORE THAN 4,300 ACRES WITH 85 PARKS -- I WAS CLOSE -- AND 90 MILES OF TRAILS, 9 SWIMMING POOLS, 5 REC CENTERS TO WHICH 85% OF OUR RESIDENTS LIVE WITHIN A 10-MINUTE WALK. I THEREFORE DO THEREBY PROCLAIM JULY 2023 AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH IN PLANO, AND I DO THEREBY ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME AND THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IN ACKNOWLEDGING THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR PARKS AND RECREATION SYSTEM AND PROMOTING PLANO'S UNPARALLELED QUALITY OF LIFE. WE COMMEND THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT FOR TIR DEDICATION AND WELCOME EVERYONE IN PLANO AND BEYOND TO VISIT THE HIGHEST-RANKING PARK SYSTEM IN THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS. CONGRATULATIONS! [ APPLAUSE ] >> MAYOR MUNS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR READING THIS PROCLAMATION. AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT FOR THIS SPECIAL PROCLAMATION. THAT MEANS A LOT TO US. [ LAUGHTER ] THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WE INVITE ALL OF YOU, ALL RESIDENTS OF PLANO, JOIN WITH YOUR FELLOW RESIDENTS, THE TENS OF THOUSANDS THAT WILL BENEFIT FROM PARKS AND RECREATION THIS SUMMER AND IN THE MONTH OF JULY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT. [ APPLAUSE ] WE'VE GOT TO GET CENTERED. >> OH, YEAH. THERE WE GO. >> Mayor Muns: PERFECT. THANK YOU, GUYS. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: YOU BET. ALWAYS A PLEASURE. I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO ANDREW FORTUNE, OUR GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS DIRECTOR, TO GIVE US A LITTLE INFORMATION REGARDING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ANDREW FORTUNE, DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR THE CITY OF PLANO. I WANTED TO BRIEFLY GO OVER THIS LEGISLATIVE UPDATE BUT WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO A SPECIFIC BILL, I'D BE HAPPY TO VISIT WITH YOU OFFLINE AND WE CAN GATHER QUESTIONS AT THE END FOR THE SAKE OF TIME AND I CAN HAPPILY PROVIDE A RESPONSE. SO JUST SOME BRIEF STATISTICS TO START OUT WITH. THIS WAS CERTAINLY A RECORD SESSION FOR MANY FFERENT REASONS, BUT THE VOLUME OF BILLS CERTAINLY WAS EXTREMELY HIGH. WE TRACKED OVER 1,200 BILLS OR OVER 1,300 BILLS WITH 149 THAT ACTUALLY PASSED THIS SESSION. SO A LOT FOR US TO STILL DIGEST AND WORK WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE WE'RE IN FULL COMPLIANCE. JUST QUICK HIGHLIGHTS. PROPERTY TAX RELIEF IS STILL THE DISCUSSION THAT'S GOING ON. YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THE NEWS AND SEEN SNIPPETS. RIGHT NOW THERE'S DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THE SENATE, HOUSE, AND GOVEOR, ON HOW T DELIVER PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. I THINK ALL TEXANS ARE EXCITED FOR WHATEVER THE FINAL PACKAGE WILL BE. WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE THAT. WE'VE HEARD A SPECIAL SESSION WILL BE CALLED THIS WEDNESDAY TO, ONCE AGAIN, TAKE UP THIS ISSUE. SCHOOL VOUCHERS FAILED TO PASS, BUT WE'RE EXPECTING A SPECIAL SESSION ON THAT AS WELL. WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE VOTES TO ADVANCE THAT AT THIS TIME. AS MANY OF YOU MAY REMEMBER, WE DID CHOOSE TO REOPEN OUR LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM AND ADD THE VALUE OF TRANSIT SERVICE REPORT AND REPORTING AN AUDITING TO OUR LE HOUSE BILL 3146 AND ITS COMPANION IN THE SENATE DID ADVANCE THROUGH THE SENATE BUT UNFORTUNATELY DIED IN THE HOUSE. AND SO WE DO HAVE ONGOING EFFORTS TO PRODUCE THIS REPORT WITH DART AND A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION IS HUNG UP AROUND THE METHODOLOGY. AND SO I WILL PROVIDE UPDATES AS THEY BECOME RELEVANT. I DO WANT TO THANK, CERTAINLY, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS FOR ALL OF YOUR ONGOING EFFORTS ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT DOWN IN AUSTIN. PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATIONS. HOUSE BILL 2071, Y'ALL MAY HAVE RECEIVED ALREADY A BRIEFING ON THIS. THIS IS A HIGH-LEVEL OVERVIEW. IT DOES CHANGE HOW PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATIONS CAN BE DONE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. IT DOES TAKE IMMEDIATE EFFECT. IT RECEIVED THE SUPERMAJORITY NECESSARY FOR THAT. WE DID HAVE TWO BILLS, 2964 AND 2966 THAT SOUGHT TO MAKE SOME OF THESE CHANGES. WE WERE ABLE TO COLLAPSE THOSE INTO THIS BILL. ONE MAJOR COMPONENT THAT'S NEW WILL BE AN AUDIT THAT WILL BE REQUIRED AUALLY. HOUSE BILL 2127, THAT'S BEEN ON EVERYONE'S MIND. I'M AFRAID I DON'T HAVE TOO MANY MORE DETAILS ON THAT, BUT I DID WANT TO PROVIDE THIS OVERVIEW JUST TO SHOW YOU THE AREAS IN THE CODE THAT THE IMPACTED. WITH THIS BILL, BECAUSE OF ITS BROAD NATURE AND THE WAY IT'S BEEN WRITTEN, WE DO EXPECT A LOT OF LITIGATION. AND REALLY WE WON'T KNOW THE TRUE IMPACT UNTIL WE SEE SOME OF THAT. THANKFULLY FOR CITIES THERE WAS NEGOTIATED A THREE-MONTH WINDOW, SO IF A CITY'S REGULATIONS IS GOING TO BE CHALLENGED, THE CITY WILL HAVE THREE MONTHS TO MAKE JUST A QUICK LIST OF THE THINGS THAT WERE EXPRESSLY PROTECTED. THINGS LIKE LENDING ORDINANCES THAT WERE ALREADY IN PLACE, PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN AT EVENTS. AGAIN, I'LL PROVIDE THIS PRESENTATION FOR Y'ALL SO Y'ALL CAN DIG INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. SHORT-TERM RENTALS, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE BROUGHT THIS SLIDE BEFORE YOU AT A FORMER COUNCIL MEETING. THE FIRST TWO BILLS THAT ARE LISTED DID DIE IN THE PROCESS. SENATE BILL 929 HAS RESHAPED THE LANDSCAPE FOR SHO-TERM NTALS AND WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS, ET CETERA. 2127, AGAIN, SOME OF THAT SUPER PREEMPTION MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL IMPACTS. WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUG THAT TO SEE KIND OF HOW THAT WORKS. SENATE BILL 929, AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER, AN STR BAND WOULD CREATE NONCONFORMING USES TRIGGERING ELEMENTS OF THIS BILL. SO WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO WORK ON THINGS GIVEN THE CURRENT LANDSCAPE. HB 3699 WAS A PLATTING BILL. IT WAS NEGOTIATED TO WHERE PLANS WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE 30-DAY SHOT CLOCK FOR PLATS. THE CITY IS ALSO ABLE TO DELEGATE THAT PLAT REVIEW TO STAFF FOR THE SAKE OF EFFICIENCY. OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE BILL ARE LISTED THERE. AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH. AND REALLY THE REMAINING SLIDES ARE JUST SOME OF THE BILLS THAT HAVE PASSED AND WILL BECOME LAW IN SEPTEMBER. I WON'T BELABOR THAT FOR THE SAKE OF TIME. AGAIN, THERE ARE PROBABLY TEN OR SO SLIDES OF THIS. IF YOU'D LIKE SOME LIGHT READING FOR YOUR EVENING, I'LL BE UP AND AILABLIF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS? >> Williams: YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE ANDREW FORTUNE'S EFFORTS THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION. UNDER THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION, THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE MEETS ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS FOR FIVE MONTHS TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE THEY CAN DO, UNLIKE WASHINGTON WHERE THEY NEVER LEAVE AND ARE ALWAYS CAUSING DAMAGE. BECAUSE IT'S FIVE MONTHS EVERY TWO YEARS, IT'S INTENSE. I HAVE HAD TO WAIT UIL AFTER 3:00 A.M. PERSONALLY TO TESTIFY IN COMMITTEES BEFORE DURING THE SESSION. THIS WAS MY FIRST REAL OPPORTUNITY TO WORK CLOSELY WITH ANDREW, AS WE WERE BOTH AT THE CAPITOL. HE, FAR MORE THAN I. BUT HE DID AN EXEMPLARY JOB NAVIGATING THE INS AND OUTS OF THE CAPITOL, WORKING WITH LEGISLATIVE STAFF, KEEPING US UP TO DATE ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN VARIOUS COMMITTEES. WE WON SOME, WE LOST SOME, WE LAUGHED, WE CRIED. BUT HE DID TO PUBLICLY RECOGNIZE HIM FOR THAT. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR. [ APPLAUSE ] I'LL SKIP THROUGH THIS. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, ANDREW. LET'S MOVE ON TO COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. >> City Clerk: COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACAL OR POLICY INFORMATN. T COUIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. AND I DO HAVE TWO SPEAKERS THIS EVENING. THE FIRST ONE IS JAMES RUSSELL. JAMES RUSSELL? AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO SHARON OVERALL. >> SECOND-HAND SMOKE AND THE INFRINGEMENT OF YOUR RIGHTS. PERHE EPA, IS OUTDOOR EXPOSURE TO SECOND-HAND SMOKE COMPARABLE TO INDOORS? WHETHER INDOORS OR OUTDOORS, THE ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS REMAIN THE SAME. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS INDOORS THE CONCENTRATION OF CHEMICALS, COMPOUNDS, AND PARTICLES, IS KEPT IN AND DOESN'T GO AWAY AS QUICKLY AS OUTDOORS. IS OUTDOORS SUCH AS PARKS HARMFUL TO CHILDREN? REGARDLESS OF WHERE THE EXPOSURE TAKES PLACE, OUTSIDE OR INSIDE, SECOND-HAND SMOKE POSES HEALTH RISKS TO CHILDREN. FOUND THERE IS NO SAFE LEVEL OF EXPOSURE. PER THE CDC, THERE IS NO SAFE LEVEL OF EXPOSURE TO SECOND-HAND SMOKE, EVEN BRIEF EXPOSURE CAN CAUSE SERIOUS HEALTH EFFECTS. PER THE NO SAFE LEVEL OF SECOND-HAND S - SMOKE INSIDE OR OUTSIDE. SECOND-HAND SMOKE, WHETHER INSIDE OR OUTSIDE, IS PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS TO CHILDREN, AS THEY ARE ALL STILL GROWING AND DEVELOPING, AND EXPOSURE CAN LEAD TO MANY HEALTH EFFECTS. OUTDOOR LEVELS OF TOBACCO SMOKE CAN BE AS HIGH AS INDOORS. IF THERE IS NO WIND, TOBACCO SMOKE WILL RISE AND FALL AND FLOOD THE LOCAL AREA WITH SECOND-HAND SMOKE. IF THERE IS A BREEZE, IT WILL SPREAD IN MANY DIRECTIONS. MINIMIZING THE SECOND-HAND SMOKE OUTDOORS. REFRAIN FROM USING TOBACCO PRODUCTS FROM CHILDREN AND ADVISE OTHERS TO MOVE AWAY FROM CROWDS. AVOID PLACES TO WHERE YOU MAY BE EXPOSED TO SECOND-HAND SMOKE OUTDOORS. A STUDY AT ONE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND CAMPUSES, ANYONE IN POSITION DOWN WIND OF SECOND-HAND SMOKE WILL BE EXPOSED EVEN AT SIGNIFICANT DISTANCES FROM THE SOURCE. PER A STUDY IN CALIFORNIA, THE SECOND-HAND SMOKE CAN TRAVEL UP TO 100 FEET FROM THE SMOKER WITH WIND, AND IT CAN LINGER IN THE AIR FOR UP TO FIVE HOURS. THE CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCE BOARD MEASURED SMOKE AT AIRPORTS, COLLEGES, OFFICE COMPLEXES, AND AMUSEMENT PARKS. THEY FOUND WHEN SMOKING OCCURS, PEOPLE CAN BE EXPOSED TO LEVELS OF SECOND-HAND SMOKE COMPARABLE TO INDOOR CONCENTRATIONS WHERE SMOKING IS PROHIBITED. IN ANOTHER STUDY, WHEN ACTIVE SMOKING WAS TAKEN PLACE OUTSIDE, SIMILAR RESULTS WERE OBSERVED. YOUR KIDS ARE PLAYING IN THE BACKYARD AND YOUR NEIGHBOR IS SMOKING 15 FEET FROM THE FENCE. DO YOU MAKE YOUR CHILDREN COME INSIDE? HOLONG DO THEY HAVE TO STAY INSIDE SINCE IT CAN LINGER FOR FIVE HOURS? WHOSE RIGHTS ARE BEING INFRINGED UPON? THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE. >> City Clerk: THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NONCONTROVERSIAL. ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER OR ANY CITIZEN. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAND VOTE, TO EVERYBODY REMEMBER THAT. I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES 8- 0. THANK YOU. >> City Clerk: PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE-MINUTE REBUTTAL, IF NEEDED. REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME, WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER. THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY. NONPUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA, AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY, AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER REQUESTS ARE RECEIVED UNTIL THE CUMULATIVE TIME IS EXHAUSTED. ITEM NUMBER ONE. CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER 6, BUILDINGS AND BUILDING REGULATIONS, OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PLANO BY ADDING ARTICLE XXIV, REGISTRATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES; PROVIDING FOR PROCEDURES FOR THE REGISTRATION AND SELF-INSPECTIONS OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS FOR OPERATION; PROVIDING FOR PROCEDURES FOR APPROVAL, DENIAL, SUSPENSION, AND REVOCATION OF REGISTRATION OF SHORTTERM RENTALS; AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A REPEALER CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DE. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. CONSIDERING THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS AND THROUGH AN EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING SENATE BILL 929 AND OTHER INFORMATION THAT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO COLLECT, WE ARE NEEDING TO TABLE THIS ITEM. AND I WAS WANTING TO KNOW IF WE HAD A MOTION TO DO THAT? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AUGUST 14th. >> Mayor Muns: AUGUST 14th. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? >> Ricciardelli: SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. WELL, YEAH, OKAY. >> Ricciardelli: I THOUGHT YOU WERE SEEKING ONE. >> Mayor Muns: ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES 8-0. I STILL KNOW THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, AND BE GLAD TO HEAR YOU. I'D LIKE YOU TO LIMIT IT TO ONE MINUTE, BEING WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT ON AUGUST 14th. SO GO AHEAD, AND LET'S HEAR THE SPEAKERS. >> City Clerk: THE FIRST SPEAKER IS LYNN McCLEMMEN, FOLLOWED BY ELENA BOURQUE. >> THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY HARD TO DO IN ONE MINUTE. I'M LYNN McCLEMMEN. I'VE LIVED IN PLANO FOR 27 YEARS IN THE SAME SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENT NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S A SHORT-TERM RENTAL THREE HOUSES DOWN FROM ME. I WAS HERE TO TALK ABOUT TABLING THE RESTRAON THAT YOU'VE ALREADY TABLED, SO I'VE GOT TO SKIP HERE. I GUESS REALLY WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT IN THE COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT YOU GUYS CONDUCTED, THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT WAS PARKING. AND I HOPE YOU DON'T IGNORE THAT THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT. THE CITY OF DALLAS HANDLED IT BY MAKING IT MANDATORY FOR ALL SHORT-TERM RENTALS TO PROVIDE THE NUMBER OF OFF-STREET PARKING PLACES PER NUMBER OF BEDROO, DENS, GAME ROOMS, ET CETERA, WHEREVER THERE WAS A BED. I THINK THAT PARKING IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO ADDRESS IN REGISTRATION. AND SO I HOPE THAT YOU DO THAT. I'M SORRY THAT THAT WAS KIND OF CONVOLUTED. THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ALANA BURKE, AND I'VE LIVED IN MY PLANO HOME FOR 30 YEARS. I'M VERY PLEASED YOU ARE TABLING TOGHT. WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN LAST MONTH AND THE TEMPORARY BAN AND WHAT WE SAW RELEASED LAST WEEK. BUT THAT'S FOR ANOTHER TIME. BASED ON YOUR OWN SURVEY RESULTS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF PLANO HOMEOWNERS DO NOT WANT A SHORT-TERM RENTAL NEXT TO THEM. FOR ALL THE MANY REASONS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPLAINED IN THIS CHAMBER FOR OVER A YEAR NOW. CITY COUNCIL SHOULD PROTECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE EXISTENCE OF SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS. TO QUOTE A DALLAS CITY COUNCILWOMAN, WE HAVE A SITUATION IN WHICH THE PROFIT OF SOME DEBITS THE PEACE OF MANY. Rs ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND ALSO EXACERBATE CRITICAL HOUSING SHORTAGES. ARE YOU GOING TO ALLOW THE THREAT OF A POTENTIAL LAWSUIT TO PREVENT YOU FROM DOING THE RIGHT THING? THE CITY OF DALLAS IS NOT. THIS SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT IF WE DO. THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> City Clerk: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GREG PATILLO FOLLOWED BY CINDY PATILLO. >> SORRY, MY APOLOGIES. TRY TO DO THIS QUICKLY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. RESIDENT BUSINESSOWNER FOR MORE THAN 29 YEARS. JULY 25, 2022, ALMOST A YEAR AGO, I STOOD AT THIS DAIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. A SERIES OF PRESENTATIONS MOSTLY FOCUSED ON THE BUSINESS CASE, DATA, AND ECONOMIC ANALYSIS THAT USED THE MEASURING STICK OF IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID FOR PLANO. THE SRT-TERM RENTAL INDUSTRY IS AN ECONOMIC LOSER. 13 TIMES BETWEEN THIS BODY, P&Z, PISD SCHOOL BOARD. AND MOSTLY DRIVEN BY THE FACT THAT I WANTED TO CONTRIBUTE IN A MEANINGFUL WAY TO MAKING DECISIONS REGARDING SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT OFFER THE BEST-POSSIBLE OUTCOMES FOR RESIDENTS, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND BUSINESSES. SHOULD NOT BE A SURPRISE THAT THERE ARE NUMBERS IN MATH THAT JUSTIFY MY CONTINUED EFFORTS. GIVEN THE ORDINANCE PROPOSED TONIGHT, I THINK IT'S TIME TO SHARE THAT CASE WITH YOU. IT'S OUR PLAN TO STAY IN PLANO FOR ANOTHER TEN YEARS. FOR CINDY AND I WITH AN STR BEHIND US WITH THE POOL AND HOT TUB LESS THAN 50 FEET FROM OUR BEDROOM WINDOW, THAT MEANS WE'LL EXPERIENCE THE UNEASE WITH NOT KNOWING WHO OR HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE THERE, WHETHER THEY'RE ARMED, WHAT THEIR ACTIVITIES WILL BE. IT MAY BE NECESSARY TO CONTACT THE POLICE OR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TO -- >> Mayor Muns: GREG, COULD YOU WRAP IT UP? >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. >> JUST THINK ABOUT YOUR NEXT 520 WEEKEND AND WHAT THAT MEANS TO YOU. I KNOW WHAT MINE ARE GOING TO BE LIKE. [ APPLAUSE ] >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. WE ARE VERY PLEASED THAT YOU ARE TABLING THIS ORDINANCE. THERE ARE THREE POINTS THAT WERE OF CONCERN. ONE IS THAT THERE WAS NO LONGER A LIMITED REGISTRATION WINDOW FOR THE EXISTING STRs THAT REMAINED. SO WE'RE CONCERNED THAT SOMEONE THAT OPERATED AN STR PRIOR TO MAY OF THIS YEAR COULD COME BACK INTO SERVICE AT ANY TIME. THE PROPOSAL INDICATED REGISTRATION EXPIRES UPON CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP BUT NOTHING INDICATED A NEW OWNER WAS PREVENTED FROM REGISTERING THAT PROPERTY AGAIN AS AN STR AS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL INDICATED. MOST SIGNIFICANTLY, THE NEW PROPOSAL INCLUDES THE WORD REVOCATION NO FEWER THAN 20 TIMES. HOWEVER, THERE IS NOT A SINGLE CIRCUMSTANCE IN THIS PROPOSAL WHERE REVOCATION IS A POSSIBLE OUTCOME. NOT ONE. A BROTHEL, A SHOOTOUT, THE DEATH OF A TEENAGER AT A PARTY, NONE CAN RESULT IN PERMANENT REVOCATION OF REGISTRATION ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT PRO PROPOSAL. WE HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER THOSE PRIOR TO AUGUST 14th. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> City Clerk: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MARK PULLIAM FOLLOWED BY COREY RYNEGER. >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. I'M A RESIDENT AROUND 30 YEARS. I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY. SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE MY MATH. THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS TABLED TONIGHT, THANK YOU FOR TABLING IT -- IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU HAD LAST MAY. AND I JUST WANT TO ASK THE COUNCIL JUST TO THINK ABOUT WHO IS INSTRUCTING THE STAFF OR IS THE STAFF INSTRUCTING YOU ON RE-ROUTING THE ORDINANCE? BECAUSE THIS ORDINANCE IS SO VASTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AND WHAT WAS TABLED FOR LEGISLATIVE REASONS, NOT FOR PRACTICAL REASONS. PLEASE CONSIDER THAT AS YOU REVIEW THE NEXT SESSION -- VERSION OF THIS ORDINANCE WHEN IT COMES BACK IN AUGUST BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO'S DIRECTING THE SHIP ON THIS BECAUSE IT SEE TO BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. WE'VE HAD OTHER PEOPLE MENTION THE ISSUES. THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES THAT ARE VASTLY CHANGED FROM MAY TO NOW. AND I THINK WE NEED TO ASK WHY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] >> OKAY. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNTY HERE AGAIN TO REPRESENT THE LOAN HOST PERSPECTIV AGAIN, JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT I FEEL THERE'S A LOT OF ELEMENTS OF REGULATION THAT ARE PART OF THIS REGISTRATION PROGRAM, AND WE STILL HAVEN'T DONE THE RESEARCH AND TASK FORCE AND ALL THE PIECES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO INFORM HOW SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE REGULATED. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL PRIVACY ISSUES AROUND PHOTOGRAPHS. THERE WAS NEWS TODAY ABOUT DATA BREACH IN FT. WORTH AND CITY RECORDS LEAKED ONLINE. I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF PERSONAL THOROUGH DOCUMENTATION OF MY HOUSE BEING LEAKED WITHOUT ANY OF MY CONTROL ONLINE. AND THE INSURANCE POLICY, AGAIN, IS A CONCERN FOR ME. AND LAST, THE FACT THAT THERE'S STILL NO DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN OWNER OCCUPIED AND NONOWNER OCCUPIED RENTALS, WHICH IS SOMETHING OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE, WHICH WOULD BE EASY TO DO AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE DIFFERENCES AND RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TYPE. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE GROUP, BUT IN THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH A FEW NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION MEMBERS, THEY SAID THAT SORT OF RENTAL DOESN'T BOTHER THEM. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM TWO. >> City Clerk: ITEM NUMBER TWO. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF APPEALS OF THE PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION'S DENIALS OF ZONING CASE 2022-009 AND CONCEPT PLAN 2022-008. REQUEST TO REZONE 19.1 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF PLANO PARKWAY AND EXECUTIVE DRIVE FROM CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT-CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO ALLOW MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE ATTACHED UNITS AS PERMITTED USES AND TO MODIFY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WHICH MAY INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO: THE LOCATION AND SIZE OF RESIDENTIAL USES; BUILDING SETBACKS; MAXIMUM FLOOR AREA RATIO; OPEN SPACE; LANDSCAPE PARKING; AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT - STANDARDS. ZONED CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL AND LOCATED WITHIN OVERLAY DISTRT /PLANO PARKWAY GOO EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND EXECUTIVES. I AM CHRISTINA DAY, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, AND HERE TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS ZONNG CASE, WHICH IS A REQUEST FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THE CURRENT ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY IS CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL. IT'S DEVELOPED WITH A LARGE RETAIL FACILITY THAT IS CURRENTLY VACANT. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS LOCATED GENERALLY AT THE INTERSECTION OF PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TOLLWA AND U.S. HIGHWAY 75 WITH ACCESS PRIMARILY FROM PLANO PARKWAY. THIS IS AN AERIAL SHOT OF THE PROPERTY, AND YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING AS IT EXISTS TODAY, SURROUNDED BY PARKING AND A VERY TRADITIONAL SORT OF BIG BOX RETAIL-STYLE OF DEVELOPMENT. SO WE'VE DONE THESE GRAPHICS TO HELP SHOW THE DIFFERENT PHASING THAT'S COMMITTED TO AS PART OF THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL. SO THE APPLICANT HAS COMMITTED TO OPEN SPACE AND SOME BERMING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS 33 SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS AND 260 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS AS PART OF PHASE ONE. BEYOND THAT, TO GET TO PHASE TWO, YOU'LL SEE THERE ARE AN ADDITIONAL 241 UNITS ALLOWED. AND THEN THE OPEN SPACE REMAINS AS-IS, AS WELL AS THE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED. THE ADDITION OF OFFICE AND HOTEL ARE REQUIRED OR AT LEAST 70,000 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO BUILDING THAT SECOND PHASE OF MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. SO THE ZONING HISTORY, THIS WAS A LITTLE UNIQUE STAFF REPORT BECAUSE THERE WAS LOTS OF UNDERLINING. THE REASON BEHIND THAT IS BECAUSE THIS WAS TABLED AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON MARCH 1st. ANOTHER BRIEF TABLE WAS REQUESTED ON APRIL 17th IN ORDER TO MAKE SOME CHANGES AFTER THEY INITIALLY HEAR THEASE ON MARCH 1st. SO THE UNDERLINED PORTIONS REALLY REPRESENT THE CHANGES THE APPLICANT MADE BETWEEN MARCH 1st AND MAY 1st. AND THE IDEA THERE WAS ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION, WHO EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS REGARDING PHASING AND NOISE MITIGATION STANDARDS. SO THE PROPERTY WITH RELATION TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS IN THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR'S DESIGNATION ON A FUTURE LAND USE MAP. IT IS ENTIRELY WITHIN THAT SINGULAR DESIGNATION. AND HERE IS OUR SUMMARY OF HOW IT COMPLIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF AREAS WHERE IT IS IN COMPLIANCE. THE MIX OF USES, CHARACTER-DEFINING ELEMENTS. THE REMAINING MAPS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH MAP. ALSO THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT POLICY IS IN THE FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST. THERE ARE A FEW THAT WE FOUND NEUTRAL. THERE'S THE DESCRIPTION IN PRIORITIES, DOWNTOWNISIOAND STRATEGY UPDATE, AS WELL AS ACTION 8, WHERE THERE WERE JUST SORT OF A MIXED REVIEW OF THOSE POLICIES. AND THEN THERE WERE CONCERNS FOUND RELATED TO EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH MAP, THE REDEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR'S POLICY AND REDEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT POLICIES 5A AND B. SO WITH REGARD TO MID RISE RESIDENTIAL, THAT IS ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY GETTING THE UNITS AS FAR AWAY AS PRACTICAL WITH RELATIONSHIP TO THIS DEVELOPMENT FROM THE NOISE. THE REMAINING ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE ZONED CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL, WHICH ALLOWS VEHICLE-RELATED USES. SO THERE'S SOME CAUTION THERE. SO THE PURPOSE BEHIND THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH MAP WAS ORIGINALLY BECAUSE PLANO HAD A 1200-FOOT SETBACK FROM THE EXPRESSWAYS, AND THIS WAS TO HELP US FIND A RATIONAL WAY OF LOOKING AT CHANGES OR CHALLENGES TO THAT 1200 FEET BECAUSE THERE WERE POTENTIALLY EXCEPTIONS MADE WITHIN THE POLICY. AND THIS WAS PUTTING A RATIONAL BASIS BEHIND WHEN SHOULD EXCEPTIONS BE MADE? SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE THERE. WE ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT AT THE TIME THE STAFF REPORT WAS PUBLISHED, THERE WERE 2600 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS BEING DEVELOPED IN THE AREA. THE MAJORITY OF THOSE AT COLLIN CREEK. A FEW REMAIN AT HERITAGE CREEK SIDE. AND SINCE THAT TIME, THERE HAVE BEEN AN ADDITIONAL 325 UNITS APPROVED ACROSS THE DART RAIL AT J PLACE. REGARDING SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTS ATTACHED, THIS DOES PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES. THOSE ARE ON INDIVIDUALLY PLATTED LOTS, AS PROPOSED. SO THIS DOES ALIGN WITH THE MIX OF USES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IS WAS A CHANGE FROM SOME PREVIOUS PROPOSALS. SO THE DESI HERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE NOTED. IT IS ADJACENT TO MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, BUT THEY ARE THREE-STORY UNITS, TO TRY TO BLEND THAT HEIGHT. BUT THERE ARE JUST -- IT IS A SINGLE ROW OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'VE TALKED THROUGH EXTE EXTENSIVELY, AND THIS IS THE RESULTING PROPOSAL. THE WALKING 2,0 FEET. THIS IS CONSIDERED S TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. THERE ARE SIDEWALKS THAT CAN GET YOU THERE ALONG EXECUTIVE AND THE 190 SERVICE ROAD. THIS IS WHAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH MAP LOOKS LIKE. YOU CAN SEE WHY THE RESIDENTIAL IS PUSHED TO THE NORTH, BECAUSE THAT IS IN THE AREA THAT IS MORE FAVORABLE TO MITIGATION. AND THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT DOES PROPOSE A NUMBER OF MITIGATION MEASURES FOR NOISE AND REQUIRES A SOUND ENGINEER TO LOOK AT THOSE UNITS. THE MITIGATION FOR PHASE ONE INCLUDES BERMS AND LANDSCAPING ALONG THE SOUTHERN EDGE BECAUSE THE INTENT IS NOT TO BUILD THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT UNTIL THE MARKET IS READY FOR THAT. SO WITH THAT BEING THE CASE, WE'VE ASKED FOR THIS ADDITIONAL CHANGE TO THE SITE IN THE TIME BEING SO THAT THERE IS SOME PROTECTION FOR THE HOMES AND MULTI-FAMILY UNITS. SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE FUTURE THERE IS MITIGATION FROM THE SOUTH THROUGH DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE BUILDINGS, DEPENDING ON THEIR HEIGHT. AND I THINK THE NOISE STUDY SHOWED THAT BECAUSE OF THE ELEVATION OF THE FREEWAY, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO GET SOMETHING TALL ENOUGH TO REALLY MITIGATE MUCH IN THIS LOCATION. BUT THOSE ARE THERE TO HELP PROVIDE SOME BUFFER AND PROTECTION FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USES. THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT STIPULATIONS ARE DIVIDED INTO TWOTRT. YOU'LL SEE REFERENCES TO TRACT 1 AND 2. THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS SEPARATED OUT OF THOSE TRACKS, SO THAT'S REPRESENTED ON THE SCREEN AS A OF THE PD STIPULATION, THIS IS A RATHER LENGTHY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. JUST TO SUMMARIZE, THERE IS 1.5 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE PROPOSED. THEY ARE RESTRICTING THE USES IN TRACT 1 TO HELP ENSURE QUALITY OF LIFE WITHIN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESINTIAL THERE IF APPROVED.BE PHASE ONE INCLUDES -- AGAIN, WE'VE SEEN THIS, 260 MID-RISE, 33 SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED AND REQUIRED OPEN SPACE IN BERMING. PHASE TWO, 70,000 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES. AND THAT WOULD ALLOW AN ADDITIONAL 241 MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL UNITS. OTHER STANDARDS INCLUDE A SETBACK FROM THE FRONTAGE ROAD, NOIS MIGATION, AGAIN, RELATED TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH MAP. TOWNHOMES PER UMU DISTRICT STANDARDS. SO A VERY URBAN DENSE STYLE TOWN HOUSING PRODUCT. HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, USE RESTRICTIONS, AS WELL AS VARIOUS REGULATORY STANDARDS THAT HELP IMPLEMENT THE PLAN THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU. IN THE PACKET, THAT IS, NOT ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW. ADDITIONAL STANDARDS INCLUDE ADJUSTMENTS TO SETBACKS AND LANDSCAPE EDGES. THERE IS A REDUCED EDGE BECAUSE THIS IS IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT REQUIRES LARGER LANDSCAPE EDGES. ALSO JUST DUE TO THE NARROW NATURE OF THE PROPERTY, A REDUCED LANDSCAPE EDGE IN SOME AREAS IS APPROPRIATE. ALSO THERE ARE DESIGN STANDARDS AND IT DOES REQUIRE A GOVERNANCE ASSOCIATION. SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE FAVORABLE RESPONSES FROM THREE ADJACENT OWNERS THAT RESULTS IN 12 ACRES OF PROPERTY IN THE BUFFER AND ALMOST HALF OF THE ACREAGE WITHIN THE 200-FOOT NOTICE AREA. SO THERE WAS NO OPPOSITION IN THIS AREA. CITYWIDE, WE HAD A OTAL OF 39 UNDUPLICATED RESPONSES, 10 IN SUPPORT, 1 NEUTRAL, AND 28 IN OPPOSITION. SO REQUESTED CHANGES, IN SUMMARY, ARE UPDATING THE SOUND MITIGATION AND PHASING TO RECOGNIZE THE PROXIMITY OF THE HIGHWAY, RELATIVE TO A PROPOSAL FOR RESIDENTIAL USES. IT DOES LIMIT THE NUMBER OF UNITS. AND A PROPOSED MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE SITE ITSELF. IT WOULD AID THE CITY'S GOAL OF REDEVELOPMENT IN THE 75 CORRIDOR. IT'S A VACANT BUILDING AND MEETS SOME STANDARDS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SUCH AS THE MIX OF USES. HOWEVER, THERE WERE CHALLENGES WITH THIS PROPOSAL RELATED TO THE PHASING, SPECIFICALLY GUIDANCE ON REDEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT ARE, FRANKLY, MORE CHALLENGING. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID VOTE TO DENY THIS CASE BY A VOTE OF 4-3. AND THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Muns: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU CAN GO. >> Prince: DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG THIS RETAIL LOCATION HAS BEEN VACANT? >> I DO NOT KNOW THAT IMMEDIATELY. THAT MAY BE A GREAT QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. >> Prince: OKAY. YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMESN THE REPO THA BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU FELT IT WAS IDEAL FOR IT TO STAY OPEN FOR FUTURE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES. CAN YOU GO BACK TO -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT SLIDE IT WAS. BUT IT HAD THE CHECKS, THE Xs, THE LONG LIST OF ITEMS NEEDED TO MEET THIS -- THE REQUIREMENTS. AND IT IS A VERY LONG LIST. >> Mayor Muns: IS THAT IT? >> Prince: YES, THISONE. SO JUST BEING HONEST, I HAD TO READ THROUGH THIS SECTION SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE THIS IS A LONG LIST OF THINGS TO BE ABLE TO MEET. SO IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN THINK OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD THAT IF WE SAT AND WAITED AND SAID, HEY, LET'S LET THE PERFECT THING COME ALONG THAT WOULD MEET ALL OF THESE, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? >> I THINK THERE ARE THINGS UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING THAT COULD FIT WITH THE SITE TODAY. WE FIND THAT THE RESEARCH TECHNOLOGY DISTRICT IS VERY TIVE IN DEVELOPMENT NOW. AND THERE ARE LIGHT INTENSITY MANUFACTURING IS ALLOWED ON THIS SITE. OFFICE SHOWROOM WAREHOUSE IS ALLOWED ON THIS SITE. AND WE SEE A LOT OF THAT ACTIVITY WITHIN THE PLANO PARKWAY CORRIDOR. ALSO WITHIN THE 75 CORRIDOR MOVING NORTH, WE DO SEE OTHER MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS THAT MORE CLOSELY FOLLOW THE REDEVELOPMENT GROWTH MANAGEMENT POLICY BECAUSE OF THEIR PHASING REQUIREMENTS, SUCH AS ASSEMBLY PARK BEING ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW THE -- IT'S MORE CLOSELY FOLLOWING THESE GUIDELINES WITH REGARD TO THE PERCENTAGE OF RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. >> Prince: OKAY, MY LAST QUESTION IS ON SOME OF THESE THAT SAY "PARTIALLY MEETS," ARE THERE ANY THINGS THAT ARE SUGGESTED OR THAT YOU THINK THEY CAN DO TO GET THEM OVER THE HUMP TO MEET OR ARE WE JUST STUCK WHERE WE ARE THAT WITH THIS PLAN WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET CLOSER TO MEETING THESE ITEMS? >> I THINK THA WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS SITE. I MEAN, THIS IS THE REALLY AT LEAST THIRD HEARING THAT WE HAD AT P&Z BECAUSE THEY -- YOU KNOW, WE HAD A PRIOR ZONING CASE. WE HAD A FULL HEARING AT P&Z THAT ENDED UP IN TABLING. SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION, AND THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT AT WORKING WITH US TO ADD PIECES TO THIS WHERE THEY WERE WILLING TO. SO THE AREAS THAT I THINK WE HAVE DISCUSSED ARE REALLY THE PROPORTIONS OF COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THE COMMITMENT OF 70,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL, STAFF HAS CONSISTENTLY FOUND THAT KIND OF LIGHT RELATED TO THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED ON THE SITE. AND ESPECIALLY THE PHASING, SOME OF THOSE -- THAT DID IMPROVE OVER TIME. IT IMPROVED BECAUSE IT CHANGED AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. BUT STILL, THE -- I THINK THE 500 UNITS AND 33 UNITS OF TOWN HOUSE FOR A FUTURE 70,000 SQUARE FEET OF WHAT COULD BE A HOTEL BECAUSE IT'S JUST STRICTLY NONRESIDENTIAL, I'M NOT SURE THAT REALLY MEETS THE COMMUNITY'S LAND USE GOALS. >> Mayor Muns: FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, GO AHEAD >> Williams: THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, CHRISTINA. I APOLOGIZE, MY AGENDA QUESTIONS NEVER LEFT M DRAFTS, SO I'M SORRY. I INFERRED THAT IN THE MIX OF USES IN THE REPORT, THIS WAS TALKING ABOUT THE MIX OF USES WITHIN THIS SPECIFIC SITE. THE DESIGNATION IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR INDICATES THAT 0% TO 2% SHOULD BE FOR HOUSING OVERALL. I DIDN'T SEE -- UNLESS I OVERLOOKED IT -- IN THE REPORT HERE THE -- BASICALLY THE LINE THAT I USUALLY SEE IN A REPORT ON ZONING THASHOWS THE RREN MIX IN THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR DESIGNATION. DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT OR POINT ME TO THE PAGE IF IT'S THERE AND I OVERLOOKED IT? >> WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THERE IS A SPECIAL PROVISION FOR THE U.S. 75 CORRIDOR THAT'S UP TO 12% HOUSING, AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT NUMBER IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN YOU SEE IN THE OTHER EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR AREAS. I'M GOING TO SEE IF DONNA CAN HELP ME OUT AND LOOK THAT UP. SO WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU WITH THAT NUMBER >> William THANK YOU. PAGE -- IT'S GOING TO BE 347 OF YOUR PACKET, THE HOUSING NUMBER DOES SAY THE PROPOSAL IS 11.9%, WHICH IS PLUS 1.3%. >> Williams: OKAY. >> SO THAT GIVES YOU A RELATIVE AMOUNT OF CHANGE. >> Williams: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCILMAN HORNE? >> HORN: THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU, MS. DAY, FOR THE PRESENTATION. COULD YOU GO TO SLIDE 79, PLEASE? >> CERTAINLY. >> THANK YOU. DURING THE LAST P&Z MEETING WHEN THIS WAS REJECTED 4-3, THERE SEEMED TO BE HESITANCY ON THE VOTING OF THAT BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS CONFUSION ON EHA-1 AND EHA-2. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PLACE ALL THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY RIGHT NOW IN THE EHA-1 AREA. IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WHEREAS IF YOU LOOK IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST, YOU'LL SEE THE R-190 APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH IS ABOUT 95% TO 98% OCCUPIED, WHICH LIES SOLELY IN THE EH-2 AREA. I WENT BY TO VISIT THERE SATURDAY TO TALK TO THE OFFICE MANAGERS. BUT GUESS WHAT. THEY WERE HAVING A POOL PARTY. [ LAUGHTER ] SO THEY WERE NOT KIND TO READILY MEET WITH ME. BUT IT SEEMED LIKE THE NOISE WASN'T REALLY BOTHERING THEM AT THAT TIME. I GUESS, THOUGH, I DID INTERVIEW SEVERAL OF THE RESIDENTS AS THEY WERE TALKING THROUGH THAT AREA, JUST TO SEE THE FIRST FOCAL QUESTION, DOES THE NOISE BOTHER YOU? AND I KIND OF GOT A MIXED RESPONSE. SOME WERE UPSET ABOUT THE NOISE FROM THE TRAIN, MORE SO FROM 190, BECAUSE THE RED LINE GOES RIGHT BY THERE. THE OTHERS, THEY WORK FROM HOME. THEY REALLY WEREN'T BOTHERED BY THE NOISE. SO I THINK THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR SITE AND THE HESITANCY OF P&Z, WHO I DO NOT QUESTION THEM BEYOND -- THEY ARE VERY SOLID. BUT THE HESITANCY OF THE VOTE GOING THE WAY IT DID, I THINK THEY DIDN'T CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE NOISE ASPECT OF THIS, THE APPLICANT DID EVERYTHING HE COULD TO PLACE THE RESIDENTIAL AREA INTO A LESS RIGOROUS, IF YOU WILL, NOISE AREA. WHEREAS YOU LOOK DIRECTLY TO THE EAST, YOU SEE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S 98% FULL THAT'S EVEN HIGHER NOISE LEVELS. SO THOSE ARE REALLY KIND OF THE ISSUE I HAD HERE. I MUST, AGAIN, ITERATE TO THE -- OU COUNCILMAN THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A GUIDELINE OKAY? AND WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT, AGAIN, ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE, IT ALMOST MEETS ONE OF THE CORE VALUES, WHICH IS THAT IT'S CRITICAL TO THE SUCCESS FACTOR OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ECONOMIC VITALITY. THIS SPOT, WE RECOGNIZE, IS IN A KEY LOCATION THAT'S VITAL FOR PLANO. AND WE'D ALL LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THERE. BUT I THINK IF -- I'M JUST CONCERNED IF WE TURN THIS DOWN, HOW LONG WILL IT REMAIN VACANT? THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A REALLY GOOD VIABLE ALTERNATIVE WITH REGARDS TO MIXED USE OF HOUSING PLUS OFFICE SPACE PLUS OPEN AIR SPACE, THAT THEY'RE TRYING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO BE WITHIN COMPLIANCE AND THE ONLY THING HOLDING IT UP, I THINK, REALLY, IS THE EHA NUMBERS. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE EAST. ALSO LOOK AT THE TOLLWAY UP AT LEGACY WEST. WE APPROVED A UNIT THERE THAT'S ABOVE THE HIGHWAY THAT'S GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL. AND IT HAS AN EH-1, EH-2 AREA. SO I THINKHA ALL THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE REDEVELOPMENT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THAT. >> DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS COUNCILMEMBER HORNE BROUGHT UP WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, THE NOISE, A LOT OF DISCUSSION DURING THE P&Z MEETING, IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NOISE LEVELS OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDINGS, THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, AS WELL AS INSIDE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY. DO WE NOT HAVE ANY GOA THAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR FOR INTERIOR NOISE LEVELS THAT WOULD PUT THEM -- GO AHEAD. >> RIGHT. IN THE EHA STUDY THAT WE DID, WE FOUND THAT THE CURRENT BUILDING CODE TENDS TO MITIGATE IF HAVE YOU THE OUTDOOR NOISE AT 65, THEN IT GENERALLY, WITH CURRENT BUILDING CODES, YOU'RE GOING TO MITIGATE TO THE 45 WHICH IS ALSO THE HUD STANDARD, SO WE DIDN'T I'M GOING TO SAY FURTHER COMPLICATE THE PROCESS BY INCLUDING AN ADDITIONAL STANDARD, WE THOUGHT IF PEOPLE COULD MEE THE 65 OUTDOOR WITH CURRENT BUILDING CODES, YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO THE RECOMMENDATIN THAT WE WOULD HAVE HAD ANYWAY ON INTERIOR NOISE. >> BUT AM I CORRECT IN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE -- THE NOISE LEVEL WAS ACTUALLY AT THAT 45 INSIDE THE BUILDING OR IS THIS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? >> ARE YOU SAYING IT WAS -- I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T TOTALLY. >> Holmer: I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED DURING THE P&Z, BECAUSE IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE NOISE LEVEL INSIDE THE BUILDING WAS MEASURING BELOW 45, BUT -- >> THEY'RE -- THEY'RE PROPOSING AS PART OF THEIR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT STIPULATIONS TO MEASURE THAT AND TO MITIGATE TO THAT LEVEL. >> Holmer: OKAY. BUT WE'RE NOT MEASURING BY INTERIOR LEVELS, WE'RE ONLY MEASURING BY -- >> THAT IS SORT OF A SECONDARY UNSTATED EFFECT THAT YOU HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE REPORT TO FIND THAT OUT. >> Holmer: OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. >> YES. >> Mayor Muns: GO AHEAD. >> Ricciardelli: THANK YOU, MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION, CHRISTINA, AND FOR YOUR TIME EARLIER TODAY. AM I CORRECT IN UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LIGHT MANUFACTURING USE THAT YOU ALLUDED TO WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING. >> IT'S ALLOWED WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL CORDON ZONING DISTRICT. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHRISTINA. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE THE APPLICANTS REGISTERED TO SPEAK, SO GO AHEAD PLEASE. >> BRIAN WILKS. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS, MY NAME IS BRIAN WOLF, MY ADDRESS IS 4403 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY. EXCITED TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO SHOW YOU OUR PLANS TO REVITALIZE THIS PROPERTY AND KICK START THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THIS ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD IN EAST PLANO. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PLAN NOW FOR OVER THREE YEARS, IN THAT TIME WE'VE BEEN GOVERNED BY THREE SEPARATE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS. WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY UNDER THE ASSUMPTION OF THE PLANO TOMORROW PLAN, WE WERE GOVERNED BY THE 1986 INTERIM PLAN, AND NOW WE'RE UNDER THE UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 2021. WE'VE SUBMITTED A PLAN TWO YEARS AGO UNDER THE INTERIM PLAN, WE DECIDED TO WITHDRAW THAT PLAN AND WAIT FOR THE UPDATED COMP PLAN TO BE IMPLEMENTED. WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, AND MADE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO OUR PLAN. SOME OF THOSE CHANGES INCLUDE ADDING THE 1.4-ACRE PLAZA GREEN, PROVIDING A VERSY OF HOUSING TYPES WITH THE ADDITION OF TOWN HOME UNITS AND PUTTING TOGETHER A DETAILED PHASING PLAN, THAT FRONT LOADS PUBLIC BENEFITS AND ENSURES COMMERCIAL GETS BUILT AT APPROPRIATE TIME. AND FINALLY, WE DECREASED THE OVERALL RESIDENTIAL UNIT COUNT BY OVER 330 UNITS. IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD, BUT WE THINK THIS DEVELOPMENT NOW BEST REPRESENTS THE NEEDS OF THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND BEST COMPLETES THE EXISTING MIXED USE TOD NATURE OF THE AREA. SORRY, IS OUR POWERPOINT OH OKAY. YEAH, THE PROPERTY CLOSED ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO. YEP. >> Mayor Muns: WHEN DID FRY'S CLOSE. >> THE FRY'S ELECTRONICS STORE CLOSED ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO. >> Mayor Muns: I THOUGHT IT WAS LONGER THAN THAT. >> THEY WERE GOING THE WAY OF THE DINOSAUR LONG BEFORE THAT, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW. [ LAUGHTER ] [ INDISTINCT CHATTER ] >> Mayor Muns: DO YOU MIND IF WE -- WHILE WE'RE WAITING, SO IT'S NOT SO SILENT HERE, I WOULD ASSUME PROBABLY MOST OFS WATCH P&Z, AND GREAT PRESENTATION, LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE QUALITY OF THE BILL THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS -- WOULD BE VERY NICE. WHILE WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR SOME OF THAT AGAIN -- >> YEAH. >> Smith : WHAT -- HAVE HAVE YOU SEEN ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO MODIFY OR SAY SOMETHING MAYBE WASN'T SAID DURING THAT MEETING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO KNOW, BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS AS MAYOR PRO TEM HAD ASKED ON THAT LIST THERE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO OVERCOME THOSE. THEY'RE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, BUT YOU DO HAVE SOME GOOD THINGS ON THE OTHER SIDE, SO -- >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> Smith : WHAT DO YOU SEE MAYBE THAT WASN'T SAID THAT WOULD TIP THAT BALANCE OVER TO MORE FAVORABILITY? >> YEAH, TO US, LOOK, THERE WERE TWO MAIN ISSUES COMING OUT OF P&Z, ONE IS WHAT I THINK IS STILL A CONFUSION ABOUT THE EHA POLICY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TRIED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, WE'VE ASKED WHO THE CITY DID THE EHA STUDY IN THE FIRST PLACE. WE HIRED THEM AS OUR CONSULTANT. WE'VE HIRED, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN WITH US EVERY STEP OF THE WAY FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, AND SO TO US, THERE'S STILL SOME CONFUSION ABOUT US NOT MEETING THAT, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN OUR ATTENTION THE ENTIRE TIME WE'VE BEEN MEETING THAT, AND EVERY DECISION WE'VE MADE ALONG THE WAY WAS TO DO THAT. AND THEN THE SECOND PART IS THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS SITE BEING RESERVED FOR FUTURE KIND OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES. AND I THINK WHAT -- FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, PLANO IS THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE, WHY CAN'T PLANO HAVE ITS IT NOT LIKE WE'RE GETTING RID OF ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL WHATSOEVER. WE'VE PRESENTED WHAT WE BELIEVE TODAY ONCE WE HAVE THE PLAZA GREEN AND SOME VIBRANCY ADDED TO THAT PLACE, WHAT IS MOST ECONOMICAL TODAY TO GET GOING, WHICH IS OUR 124,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING AND HOTEL, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, BEFORE PHASE I GETS FULLY COMPLETED WHERE WE HAVE TIME TO CONTINUE THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT SITE, AND WE STILL HAVE -- IT WILL STILL BE OVER FIVE ACRES OF SPACE THAT WE COULD USE TO PUT A CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS, IF IT NEEDS THAT SPACE, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A TON OF VISIBILITY, THERE'S SOME DIFFICULTIES FROM AN ACCESS PERSPECTIVE, BUT WE'RE NOT GIVING UP ON THE POSSIBILITY THAT THIS SITE CAN BE USED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY. AND SO I THINK THAT GETS LOST SOMETIMES IN THE DISCUSSION OF PHASING AND WHAT WE'RE DOING, SO THOSE TO ME ARE THE TWO BIGGEST ISSUES. >> Smith : ONE OF THE THINGS THINKING ABOUT, ONE OF THE RECENT PROJECTS I THINK CHRISTINA HAD MENTIONED IT'S NOT TOO FAR FROM THERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AURA APARTMENT COMPLEX THERE, A GOOD THING THAT THEY HAD COME BACK WITH, AND APPROVED, WAS THE AIR FILTRATION SYSTEM FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY. I DON'T THINK I EVER SAW ANYTHING IN YOUR PRESENTATION. WHAT CAPABILITY ARE YOU LOOKING AT WITH YOUR FILTRATION FOR THE MULTI- -- >> THE STUDY THAT WAS ORIGINALLY DONE FOR THE CITY STATES THAT AIR POLLUTANTS ARE MITIGATED BEYOND I BELIEVE IT'S 300 FEET FROM THE EXPRESSWAY. WE'RE ALL -- WE'RE OUTSIDE -- 435-FOOT SETBACKS FROM THE EXPRESSWAY, SO FROM THE CONSULTANT'S PEPECTIVE, TRE'S NOTHING ELSE ADDITIONALLY WE NEEDED TO DO FROM THE FIRST P&Z MEETING THIS ROUND TO THE SECOND ONE, WE SAID, OKAY, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS YOUR POSITION, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO. SO WE ADDED AIR FILTRATION STANDARDS WITHIN OUR STIPULATIONS TO JUST GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, AND THAT IS THE LOCATION OF THE DUCTS, WHICH WAY THEY'RE POINTED AND STUFF LIKE THAT SO -- >> Smith : IS 8 GENERALLY A STANDARD. >> IT'S JUST A STANDARD. >> Smith : THE OTHER WENT TO -- CHRISTINA, DIDN'T THEY MOVE UP TO A TEN? >> I THINK MOVED UP TO 8, IF I'MOT CORCT,ROM NOTHING, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. >> GORM EXACTLY, I'M SORRY. >> Smith : OKAY. ANYWAYS -- >> THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE -- >> Smith : YOU MIGHT HAVE DONE THAT WAS OVERLOOKED AT THE PRESENTATION AS FAR AS TRYING TO SWAY SOME OF THE -- YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL HEALTH CONCERNS THAT COUNCILMAN, YOU KNOW, HORNE WAS TALKING ABOUT AS WELL? SO GOOD. THE LAST THING I WOULD ASK YOU HERE, AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER OFFHAND, WHEN THIS -- LET'S SAY THIS PROJECT WERE TO BE APPROVE AND WERE TO BE BUILT, THE END VALUATION, ITAS WHAT, LIKE $48 MILLION PLUS OR MINUS IN IMPROVEMENTS OR -- >> I THINK IT WOULD BE FAIRLY SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THAT AT BUILD-OUT. I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP -- >> IT WOULD BE IN EXCESS OF 47 PLUS OR MINUS MILLION DOLLARS -- OKAY, THANKS, BRIAN, DO WE HAVE HIS PRESENTATION READY TO ROLL? >> Mayor Muns: I THINK THEY RESTARTED IT, WHICH IS ALWAYS EXCELLENT. THING THAT I DO ALL THE TIME. MAYOR PRO TEM? >> Prince: SO CHRISTINA MENTIONED ONE OF THE I GUESS HURDLES, HANGUPS, IS THE 70,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL. IN YOUR OPINION, SINCE THIS IS PROBABLY YOUR AREA OF EXPERTISE, DO YOU THINK THAT THIS AREA OF TOWN OR GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE AREA AND COLLIN CREEK MALL DEVELOPING, DO YOU THINK THAT THE MARKET CONDITIONS, THAT IT CAN HANDLE THE AMOUNT OF RETAIL THAT'S BEING ASKED FOR SUCCESSFULLY? >> YEAH, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT'S NOT RETAIL SPECIFICALLY,T'S COMMERCIAL IN GENERAL. >> Prince: OKAY. >> THE 70,000 SQUARE FEET, WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM, WHAT WE'VE BEEN PRESENTING IS LET US BUILD PHASE I, LET US PROVIDE THE PARK AS A PUBLIC BENEFIT IN LIEU EFFECTIVELY OF COMMERCIAL AS PHASE I TO KIND OF KICK START THIS ACRES CREATE A CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE IN THIS AREA, AND THEN WE'LL HOLD OFF, WE KIND OF SELF-IMPOSED THE RESTRICTION ON THE REST OF THE RESIDENTIAL TO EITHER THE HOTEL OR THE OFFICE BUILDING. THE OFFICE BUILDING, AS WE'VE CURRENTLY DESIGNED IT, WHICH AGAIN IF THE MARKET CHANGES IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEAR, IT ONLY BEHOOVES US TO GO MORE, SO WE JUST TRIED TO PROGRAM IT FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IS BEST TODAY IN THIS EXACT MOMENT, BUT THE 70,000 SQUARE FEET COMES FROM THAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOTEL WHICH WAS THE SMALLER OF THE TWO, SO WE SAID IF WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD COMMERCIAL, WHETHER IT'S THE OFFICE OR THE HOTEL, THEN WOULD YOU ALLOW US TO BUILD THE REMAINDER OF THE RESIDENTIAL ON THE SITE? SO THAT'S WHERE THE 70,000 SQUARE FEET COMES FROM. IN TODAY'S EXACT MARKET, DOING NOTHING TO THE SITE, I MEAN WE'VE HAD THE PROPERTY, WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO, YOU KNOW, OFFICE -- POTENTIAL OFFICE USERS OVER THE LAST THREE YEA, THERE'S NO DEMAND RIGHT? AND THERE'S STILL 1.8 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF UNDEVELOPABLE OFFICE SPACE AT CITY LINE. THERE'S NO PRACTICAL REASON WHY SOMEONE WOULD COME TO THIS LOCATION VERSUS THAT LOCATION TODAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE BUILT OUT THOSE AMENITIES, THEY'VE BUILT OUT THAT HOUSING AND SO NOT ONLY WOULD WE HAVE TO RECOVER IN THE CURRENT OFFICE DEMAND MARKET THAT WE'RE IN TODAY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT SPACE GET FILLED UP IN OUR BELIEFS AND IN, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICE LEASING BROKERS THAT WE'VE TAED TO, STATE FARM JUST PUT 400,000 SQUARE FEET ON THE SUBLEASE MARKET, THEY DOWN SIZED AT THAT CITY LINE, SO THAT SPACE WOULD HAVE TO GET FILLED, SO THERE'S -- IN OUR PRESIDENT OPIA LONG WAY BEFORE A SOLO COMMERCIAL ONLY DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE WOULD HAPPEN, SO IN OUR OPINION, LET'S DO SOMETHING TO CREATE THAT THERE THERE, LET'S BUILD SOMETHING UNIQUE LIKE A PARK, A -- YOU CAN IMAGINE 125,000 SQUARE FOOT USER THAT HAS ACCESS TO 1.4-ACRE TO CREE SOMETHING UNIQUE HAD THAT WOULD ALLOW OUR SITE TO DRIVE ADDITIONAL DEMAND. >> Mayor Muns: LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE UP. >> OKAY. >> Mayor Muns: MAYBE. I -- THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. >> SO LIKE I WAS SAYING, WE HAVE THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO TRANSFORM THIS UNDERPERFORMING COMMERCIAL AREA INTO A VIBRANT ECONOMIC DISTRICT IN EAST PLANO, OUR GOAL HERE WAS TO FILL THE GAP OF THE ALSO EXISTING MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WANTED TO PROMOTE A SENSE OF PLACE BY INCORPORATING A LIVELY USABLE OPEN SPACE WITH A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE PLAZA GREEN, WE WANTED TO USE THE HIGHEST DESIGN STANDARDS IN THE CITY TO CREATE A TIMELESS DESIGN. WE WANT TO PROVIDE MULTIPLE TYPES OF HOUSING WHICH WILL ALLOW CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS IN PLANO THE ABILITY TO CHANGE HOUSING TYPES AS THEY ENTER NEW STAGES IN LIFE, AND WE WANT TO UTILIZE OUR CLOSE PROXIMITY TO CITY LINE DARK STATION FOR VIBRANT TOD DISTRICT. AND FINALLY, IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO DEVELOP THE PLAN WITH THE SUPPORT OF ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TOTART BY QUICKLY SHOWING WHAT THE EXISTING PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE TODAY. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE PROPERTY FROM PLANO PARKWAY. THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY LOOKING NORTH. THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE CITY LINE DEVELOPMENT WITH STATE FARM, WHOLE FOODS AND DART STATION ACROSS THE HIGHWAY. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY, OUR THESIS WAS WHY CAN'T WE SIMPLY DRAFT OFF THE SUCCESS OF CITY LINE, AND BRING THAT SAME VIBRANCY TO EAST PLANO? THEY PROVED TOUT CONCEPT OF ECONOMIC SUCCESS IF YOU BRING A CONCENTRATION OF PEOPLE AROUND THE DART STATION. SORRY, ITS NOT LETTING ME CHANGE SLIDES HERE. IT WAS WORKING. >> WE HAD TO GET -- SHE'S NOT HERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF SHE CAN EVEN SEE THIS. >> Tu: JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WHATEVER SLIDES THAT MR. WOLF WAS PRESENTING, IT NEVER SHOWED UP ON ZOOM. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN IT BEFORE, SO I'M OKAY. [ LAUGHTER ] >> Mayor Muns: THANKS, MARIA. THANK YOU. >> Tu: YEAH. >> I'M NOT SURE HOW TO GET A .PDF TO GO. >> IT WAS WORKING. OH, THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. SO OUR PROPERTY IS LESS THAN HALF A MILE FROM THE DART STATION, IT'S ABOUT AN 8 MINUTE WALK TO THE PLATFORM. WE SEE RESIDENTS OF THE PROPERTY HOPPING ON THE TRAIN TO GRAB DINNER OR DRINKS IN DOWNTOWN PLANO. OR VISITORS AND CUSTOMERS OF THE HOTEL AND OFFICE HAVE EASYCCESS TO DFW ONCE THE SILVER LINE IS COMPLETE. WHEN WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT SITE PLANNING FOR THE SITE, IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT ALL THE NEIGHBORING USES. THE BLUE REPRESENTS OFFICE AND FLEX USES. THE RED REPRESENTS RETAIL, AND THE YELLOW REPRESENTS RESIDENTIAL, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS ALREADY A MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD TODAY. WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS SIMPLY FILL IN THE GAP AT THE CENTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND AFTER MANY ITERATIONS THIS IS WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH, 124,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING AND A HUNDRED KEHOE TELL ON THE UTHERN END OF THE SITE CLOSEST TO THE HIGHWAY, 1.4-ACRE PLAZA GREEN AT THE CENTER, 33 TOWN HOMES SITUATED ALONG THE MAIN STREET AND FLANKING THE PLAZA GREEN, AND TWO MID RISE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WITH ABOUT 250 UNITS EACH CLOSEST TO PLANO PARKWAY. HERE IS THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT. UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE I MENTIONED A SECOND AGO, DUE TO THE UNPERFORMING COMMERCIAL NATURE OF THIS AREA TODAY THERE ISN'T ANY DEMAND TO INCLUDE NEW COMMERCIAL AS PART OF PHASE I, INSTEAD WE'RE PROPOSING INCLUDING 1.4-ACRE AS PART OF PHASE I, THAT WILL DRIVE ADDITIONAL DEMAND TO THE ADJACENT OFFICE BUILDING TO OUR WEST AND PROVIDE A CENTER PIECE FOR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE RESTRICTING ANY FUTURE RESIDENTIAL UNTIL WE OBTAIN A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY ON EITHER THE HOTEL OR OFFICE BUILDING ENSURING THAT COMMERCIAL GETS BUILT IN THE SECOND DPAIZ. PHASE. AND THIS IS A VISUAL WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM PLANO PARKWAY, LOOKING DOWN THE MAIN STREET TO THE CENTER OF THE SITE. THE APARTMENTS ON THE LEFT, THE TOWN HOMES IN THE CENTER CENTER, AND THE OFFICE BUILDING IN THE DISTANCE. THE DESI IS MEANT TO SPILLG. OUT INTO THE PLAZA GREEN, TO ACTIVATE THAT SPACE NOT ONLY AT NIGHT FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT THE DAY FOR THE TENANTS OF THE OFFICE BUILDING AND THE ADJACENT OFFICE BUILDING. ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THIS PROJECT WAS TO FOCUS ON THE QUALITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT. WE ASKED STAFF WHAT THE HIGHEST DESIGN STANDARDS IN THE CITY OF PLANO ARE, AND WE INCORPORATED ALL OF THOSE INTO THE PD STIPULATIONS, WE SET THE HIGHEST DESIGN STANDARDS FOR BUILDING MATERIALS, WE SET THE FACADE STANDARDS FOR ALL OF OUR PARKING STRUCTURES. WE ALSO INCREASED THE SETBACKS TO PROTECTGAIN NOISE AND AIR QUALITY. WE MADE MUCH LARGER LADSCAPE EDGES, ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO OUR NEIGHBORS, AND FINALLY, WE BUILT THIS INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE, ANG KERRED BY 1.4-ACRE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE PLAZA GREEN. WHY DID WE DO ALL OF THIS? WE NEEDED TO CREATE COMMERCIAL DEMAND BY BUILDING VIBRANCY. HOW DID WE DO THAT? ONE, THROUGH EXCEPTIONAL DESIGN. TWO, THROUGH A CONCENTRATION -- HIGH CONCENTRATION OF PEOPLE, AND THREE, WITH A UNIQUE AMENITY. OUR FOCUS WAS ON DRIVING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY NOT ONLY FOR OUR SITE, BUT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A WHOLE, WHICH ALREADY HAS BUILT COMMERCIAL SPACE AND HAS BEEN UNABLE TO DRIVE DEMAND AND ECONOMIC GROWTH. I PERSONALLY SPOKEN WITH EVERY ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND WE'VE BEEN INCREDIBLY LUCKY TO HAVE FULL SUPPORT. OUR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ASKING YOU TO HELP GIVE US A FIGHTING CHANCE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, THAT INCLUDES THE OWNER OF THE AURA APARTMENT COMPLEX NEXT TO US, WHICH OUR ADDED RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE DIRECT COMPETITORS OF. THEY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF HOW OUR PROJECT CAN TRANSFORM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THE RETAIL OWNER, NORTH OF US ACROSS PLANO PARKWAY, SAID OF OUR PROJECT, QUOTE, MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT WILLED A FOOT TRAFFIC AND VIBRANCY TO THE EXISTING AND FUTURE BUSINESSES AND RETAIL TENANTS IN THE AREA. THE OWNER OF THE CENTRAL 500 OFFICE BUILDING SAID, QUOTE, THIS PLAZA GREEN WOULD A GREAT AMENITY FOR O TENANTS. WE'RE ENCOURAGING YOU TO LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY NOT JUST OF OUR SITE, BUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS A WHOLE, WHEN MAKING THIS DECISION. BUT WE ALSO HAD A LEADING ECONOMIC CONSULTANT LOOK AT EXACTLY WHAT ECONOMIC BENEFIT THIS PROJECT WOULD BRING TO THE CITY OF PLANO. OUR PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE ALMOST $19 MILLION OF INCREMENTAL RETAL SPENDING, IF 75% OF THAT SPENDING STAYS WITHIN THE CITY OF PLANO, LIKE THE REPORT SUGGESTS, THAT IS ALMOST $300,000 OF NEW SALES TAX TO THE CITY OF PLANO PER YEAR. THEY ALSO DID A STUDY O THE PROJECTED HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, WHICH IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE ABOUT $200,000 PER YEAR. SO THIS DEVELOPMENT ON ITS OWN COULD GENERATE CLOSE TO HALF A MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR OF INCREMENTAL TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY OF PLANO. HOUSING, I KNOW STAFF HAD MENTIONED THERE WERE REPORT THAT THERE IS ALREADY TOO MUCH HOUSING IN THIS AREA, REFERENCING A REPORT DONE FIVE YEARS AGO IN 2018, THE 2021 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ACTUALLIES A DASHBOARD THAT CALCULATES THE POTENTIAL NEW HOUSING IN OUR AREA. OUR AREA SHOURRE CAPACITY FOR 829 NEW MULTI-FAMILY UNITS AND 87 NEW ATTACHED OR DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY UNITS. ADDITIONALLY WE COMMISSIONED A RESIDENTIAL STUDY DONE BY THE CONCORD GROUP, WHICH HE HAD SHARED WITH STAFF. THAT REPORT STATES THAT OUR COMPETITIVE MARKET AREA TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THE COLLIN CREEK MALL REDEVELOPMENT WOULD BE UNDERSUPPLIED BY OVER 3400 UNITS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. BUT AS PART OF OUR REDESIGN PROCESS, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORS AND DOING A DEEP DIVE INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ONE COMMONOPIC THAT KEPT COMING UP WAS THAT THERE ARE REALLY ONLY TWO TYPES OF HOUSING IN THE CITY OF PLANO. ONE, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND TWO, APARTMENTS. SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US IN THE REDESIGN TO PROVIDE ADERS AT THIS OF HOUSING TYPES, WE DECREASED THE NUMBER OF APARTMENTS BY OVER 330 UNITS FROM OUR INITIAL APPLICATION AND ADDED THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED RESIDENCES, THE ADDITION OF THESE TOWN HOMES, AND YOU CAN SEE THIS ALLOWED FOR THE HOUSING INVENTORY AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ACTUALLY GO FROM OUT OF COMPLIANCE TODAY TO INTO MPLIANCE WITH OUR PROCT. BUT WE BELIEVE THE REAL CENTER PIECE OF THIS PROJECT IS THE 1.4-ACRE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE PLAZA GREEN. THIS WILL ANCHOR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BE A PLACE FOR ALL TO ENJOY. WE WORKED WITH THE OFFICE OWNER TO PROVIDE DIRECT CONNECTION FOR THEIR TENANTS AND EMPLOYEES. AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW, THIS SECTION OF EAST PLANO HAS VERY LIMITED GREEN SPACE, WE COMMITTED TO BUILDING THIS PLAZA GREEN PLEADLY AS PART OF PHASE I TO BRING A BOOST TO THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN PLACE OF THE COMMEIAL WHICH IS JUST NOT VIABLE RIGHT NOW. AND FROM A CITY PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE TRANSFORMING THIS CONCRETE SURFACE PARKING LOT INTO THIS BEAUTIFUL OPEN SPACE. THE NEXT THING I WANTED TO DISCUSS REALLY QUICKLY WAS OUR EHA SITE ANALYSIS, LIKE I MENTIONED A SECOND AGO, WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, WE KNEW IT WAS SUBJECT TO THE E HAD. A, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE FROM THE BEGINNING, WE ASKED THE CITY WWHO THEY USED TO DEVELOP THE STANDARDS AND WE USE THEM. THEY'VE BEEN HIRING OUR VARIOUS ITERATIONS OVER THE ERES. >>, FROM THE BEGINNING, WE'VE KEPT ALL OF OUR RESIDENTIAL UNITS OUTSIDE OF EHA2, WHERE THAT USE IS GENERALLY INAPPROPRIATE AND ENTIRELY WITHIN EHA1 WHICH WHERE THAT USE IS APPROPRIATE, WE COMPLETED A SITE ANALYSIS BY AN INDUSTRY EXPERT AND IMPLEMENTED ALL OF THE RECOMMENDED MITIGATIONS PER THE POLICY. SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID. WE IMPLEMENTED ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDING SETBACKS BALCONY RESTRICTION, INTERIOR NOISE LEVELS AMONG OTHER ITEMS AND HMHH CONCLUDED OUR MITIGATIONS WERE CONSISTENT WITH THE VARIOUS MITIGATIONS IN THE POLICY, AND OUR RESIDENTS ARE NOT EXPECTED TO EXPERIENCE HIGHER CONCENTRATIONS OF HIGHWAY BASED AIR POLLUTANTS, THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER RESIDENTIAL CASES BROUGHT UNDER THIS COMP PLAN AND SUBJECT TO THE SAME EHA POLICY THAT HAD HIGHER EXTERIOR NOISE LEVELS AND HAD THE SAME MITIGATIONS TO WHAT WE HAVE INCLUDED, THAT STAFF IN THE BUILDING INSPECTION DEPARTMENT MET THE POLICY AND KEPT THE RESIDENTS SAFE FROM THE IMPACTS OF THE EXPRESSWAY. WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING TO BE TREATED IN THE SAME MANNER. W, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH CHRISTINA WENT THROUGH A BIT, OUR PROPERTY DESIGNATED AS EXPRESSWAY CORRIDORS IN THE UPDATED COMP PLAN, HAS THREE MAIN PRIORITIES, REDEVELOPMENT OF THE US 75 CORRIDOR, PROTECTING LAND USES IN THE EHA, AND UTILIZING RESIDENTIAL FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF UNDERPERFORMING COMMERCIAL AREAS. THIS PLAN ACHIEVES ALL THREE OF THOSE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR PRIORITIES. THIS IS A CHARTER THAT DESIRED CHARACTER ELEMENTS, AGAIN, WE'RE MEETING ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS. THIS IS A CHART OF THE RECOMMENDED MIX OF USES IN THEXPREWAY DOOR DOOR CORRIDOR DASHBOARD AGAIN WE'RE MEETING ALL OF THESE NUMBERS, AND NOW WE GET INTO THE APPLICABLE POLICY ACTIONS OF THE COMP PLAN, THE FIRST IS A LAND USE POLICY ACTION 4 WHICH CALLS FOR REVITALIZATION OF UNDERPERFORMING RETAIL, WHICH WE ARE DOING, THE NEXT ENSURES RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY STANDARDS, SIMILAR HEIGHT AND SCALE TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. THIRD IS TOD POLICY 5 WHICH ENCOURAGES NEW DEVELOPMENT WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE RAIL STATION. NEXT IS TOD FOUR, OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE OPEN SPACE WHICH WE'VE DONE. FIFTH IS (INDISCERNIBLE) WHICH TALKS ABOUT CONSISTENCY WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS AND DASHBOARDS ALL OF WHICH WE MEET, 6 IS (INDISCERNIBLE) PROVIDING SUFFICIENT OPEN SPACE, NEXT IS RGM FIVE, WHICH WE ONLY PARTIALLY MEET, AS I'M SURE YOU ARE ALL AWARE, RGM FIVE, SPECIFICALLY A AND B WAS PROBABLY THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL POLICY ACTION IN THE ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AS I MENTIONED DURING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HEARINGS, UNDERPERFORMING COMMERCIAL AREAS SUCH AS THIS NEED THE RESIDENTIAL TO STIMULATE DEMAND AND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IN THE AREA, JUST AS THE COMP PLAN STATES IN OUR LAND USE DESIGNATION, SO WHILE THIS POLICY MAY MAKE SENSE IN SOME AREAS ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE CITY, LEGACY, SOME OTHERS, IT DOESN'T -- IT JUST DOESN'T WORK HERE, LUCKILY THE COMP PLAN ALLOWS YOU TO USE FINDINGS WHERE IT MAKE SENSE. THE DEVELOPMENT NEVER PEERS THE MINIMUM 33% NONRESIDENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE AT ANY PHASE A TOTALS 51% RESIDENTIAL AT FULL BUILD OUT, AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A WHOLE, FINALLY, WE'RE BUILDING OUR GREEN SPACE CONCURRENT WITH THE FIRST PHASE, AS STATED IN SECTION C. FOR RGM8, PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS AND DASHBOARDS PROVIDING DIVERSITY OF HOUSING TYPES, AN WELCOME BACK A HALF MILE OF THE DART STATION, THE LAST TWO POLICY ACTIONS ON THE REVITALIZATION OF RETAIL SHOPPING CENTERS, OUR RETAIL CORNER, PRIME CANDIDATE FOR REDEVELOPMENT INCLUDING ACTIVE OPEN SPACE AND GREEN SPACE. SO WHILE WE MEE EVERY ASPECT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, EXCEPT THAT TWO-THIRDS OF A SINGLE POLICY ACTION INCLUDING ALL THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR PRIORITIES, ALL THE FUTURE LAND USE MIXES AND NUMBERS, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PROPOSAL MEETS THE INTENTION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE BELIEVE IT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE BELIEVE IT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND FROM A DESIGN, GREEN SPACE AND QUALITY PERSPECTIVE COMPARED TO ANYTHING IN PLANO. WE HAVE A PROPOSED SET OF FINDINGS THAT I'M HAPPY TO BWALK YOU THROUGH IF YOU WOULD LIK I'D ENCOAGE YOU TO SEE WHAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS SEES. AND THAT'STHE VIEW FROM PLANO PARKWAY GOING FROM THIS TO THIS. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, BRIAN. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION -- OKAY, GO AHEAD. HOLD UP JUST A SECOND. >> Prince: SO THE COMMENT THAT CHRISTINA MADE EARLIER ABOUT THE HOUSING AND THE WAY IT BEING SHAPED IN ROW, AND IT NOT MING A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT, AND THE FEELING THAT IT CAN'T BY GUESS SHAPED BETTER -- >> YEAH, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH WITH ME AND CRIES TINA ON THIS, AND WITH OUR ARCHITECTS TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST. AND WE ALONG WITH OUR ARCHITECTS FELT THE PLACEMENT OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS IMPORTANT TO THE SUCCESS OF THEM. WHAT WE DIDN'T WANT IS THEM TO BE KIND OF ISOLATED IN ONE AREA OR ANOTHER OF THE PROJECT, AND WE THOUGHT THAT THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT WAS TO CENTER THEM AROUND THE MAIN ARTERY AS KIND OF A FOCAL POINT. THE OTHER REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF IT IS, AGAIN, WE WANTED THEM TO FEEL A PART OF THIS TOD COMMUNITY, AND WHERE WE PLACE THEM, EVERYBODY LIVING IN THE APARTMENTS HAS TO WALK BY THEM TO GET TO THE OPEN GREEN SPACE, WHICH WE EXPECT EVERYONE TO USE, SO IT KIND OF CREATES THAT INTERACTION BETWEEN THE APARTMENT TENANTS, RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS THE SINGLE FAMILY TENANTS AND OUR ARCHITECTS AND US THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS JUST THE BEST FROM A PLACE MAKING PERSPECTIVE. >> Prince: DO YOU HAVE -- MAYBE DIDN'T SEE IT -- A PICTURE ON HERE OF WHAT THAT -- WHERE THEY'RE PLACED OR WHICH ONES THEY WERE -- >> I'M SORRY, I'VE GOT TO GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING. >> Prince: I'M SORRY, I MEANT A RENDERING, I GUESS. THE RENDERINGS WERE ALL THE MULTI-FAMILY RIGHT? >> NOPE. SO YOU CAN SEE THEM IN THE PARK PICTURE. SO THERE THE -- THEY'RE KIND OF WHITE. >> Prince: OKAY. >> THEY'RE SLIGHTLY SMALLER SCALE SO THEY'RE THREE STORY TOWN HOMES AND A FIVE STORY APARTMENT BEHIND IT. >> Prince: SO THEY'RE RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE PARK. >> WE WANTED THE OWNERS OF THAT TO KIND OF HAVE OPEN -- DIRECT ACCESS TO THAT OPEN SPACE, AS YOU KNOW, IN TODAY'S MARKET, WITH INTEREST RATES HAVE GONE, SINGLE FAMILY HAS BEEN A LOT TOUGHER THAN MULTI-FAMILY HAS, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROVIDING THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THEY'RE ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL, AND WE THOUGHT THAT IS THE LOCATION SUCCESSFUL.WOULD BE MOST >> Mayor Muns: DO YOU WANT TO -- BILL, DO YOU WANT TO -- >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL. I'LL BE BRIEF, AS MANY OF YOU YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN COMING OUT TO PLANO, DOING DEVELOPMENT WORK OUT HERE OVER 30 YEARS, I THINK IT'S COMMENDABLE WITH HOW BRIAN HAS WORKED WITH THE CITY STAFF TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS AND CHANGES FOR EXAMPLE, THE PHASING AND SOME OF THE OTHER GGESTIONS MADE, SO DON'T SAY THAT VERY OFTEN, BUT IT WAS GOOD TO SEE IT THIS TIME AROUND, AND TRYING TO PROVIDE AN EXTREMELY HIGH QUALITY PROJECT. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE WE SHOULD WAIT FOR ANOTHER LAND USE TO COME BY THAT'S BETTER. WE WERE COMING OUT OF A MARKET THAT'S -- WAS A PRETTY GOOD COMMERCIAL MARKET AND NOTHING DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW THAT THE FIGURES ON OFFICE DEVELOPMENT, WE KNOW THE FIGURES ON COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. NOT THAT WE SHOULD TAKE A DEVELOPMENT JUST BECAUSE IT'S A LAST RESORT, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY. IT IS A GOODEVELENT F THIS AREA. AND I THINK IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, BECAUSE WHEN TAKEN AS A WHOLE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, TAKEN AS A WHOLE, THIS PLAN DOES CONFORM AND DOES FURTHER THE PRINCIPLES OF THE PLAN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE REVITALIZATION OF A UNDERPERFORMING RETAIL AREA, REINVESTMENT OF AN AREA. TOD, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE SITE IN PLANO WHERE WE HAVE THREE DART STATIONS, THREE DART LINES, YOU KNOW, THE -- Y'ALL AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH THAT, BUT IT'S A VERY UNIQUE SITE AS FAR AS THAT GOES, AND THESE FOLKS WHO LIVE HERE WILL HAVE THAT BENEFIT. AGAIN, AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION GREAT ACCESS, BUT -- AND AGAIN, IT'S -- IT'S BENEFICIAL TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS AS WELL, BECAUSE IT WILL BE A SHOT IN THE ARM. IT WILL BE A REINVESTMENT IN THIS AREA TO MAKE THIS IF NOTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, THE AESTHETICS, ALSO TO PROMOTE AND BRING IN MORE REDEVELOPMENT AND MORE ACTIVITY IN THEREA, SO FOR THOSE REASONS, WE THINK THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND THAT IT IS BENEFICIAL TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. IT DOES, YOU KNOW, CONFORM TO THE BICYCLE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, AS WE SAID, PARTIALLY THE DOWNTOWN VISION AND STRATEGY, BUT I THINK THERE ARE REASONS WHY WE CAN'T CONFORM COMPLETELY, BECAUSE OF THE CONFIGURATION OF THE PROPERTY, THE MIX OF RESIDENTIAL USES IS ALSO AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, AND I THINK AGAIN THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT POLICY IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE RPECTFULL REQUESF THIS ZONING CASE. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. BRIAN, BRIAN MOORE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. OKAY. YOU CAN ASK THEM -- >> A TECHNICAL QUESTION. BRIAN, IS ANYBODY FROM HMMH HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE NOISE MODELING. >> NOT TODAY. >> OKAY, MAYBE YOU KNOW THE ANSWER, I'M LOOKING AT THE FIGURES THAT CAME BACK ON THE DRAWINGS, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME ASK THIS. THEY MET -- THEY DID THEIR MODELING ON THE ANNUAL AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC MODELING, FOR 2040 -- >> CORRECT. >> HORNE: WOULD IT BE A SAFE PRESUMPTION WITH THE RISE OF EVs, THAT THE ROAD NOISE PROBABLY WOULD GO DOWN IN 2040? >> SO AGAIN, I'M NOT -- >> HORNE: ASSUME -- >> MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE MODELING PERSPECTIVE IS THAT WE TOOK MEASUREMENTS TODAY THAT GROW THAT TO GET TO 2040, WHETHER EV IS FACTORED INTO THAT, I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF IT IS. I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT AS FACTORED INTO IT, BUT -- BUT THEY ARE A GROWN NUMBER FROM WHERE TODAY'S NUMBERS ARE. >> HORNE: OKAY. SO WHEN I LOOKED AT THE SAMPLING ON PAGE -- WELL, ON PAGE 2, PAGE 377 OF THE DATA, I MEAN, I GOT INTO THE NUT OF THIS THING, IT HAD A TABLE LOCATIONS M1 THROUGH M4, IT SHOWED THE DATA THAT WAS PRESENTED, BUT ON YOUR FIGURE IT SHOWED SHORT-TERM SAMPLING ONE, TWO, AND THREE, AND LONG-TERM SAMPLING AS ONE. AND I'M NOT SURE HOW IT CORRELATED TO THAT TABLE, IF IT INDEED DID, BECAUSE A LONG-TERM MEASUREMENT, I UNDERSTOOD, WAS OVER 12 HOUR PERIOD, OR 24 HOUR PERIOD, AND SHORT-TERM WAS SHOOTERRING INCR SHORTER INCREMENTS, IS THAT CORRECT. >> MY UNDERSTANDING THE MEASUREMENTS TAKEN IS JUST TO CONFIRM THAT THE OVERALL ASSUMPTIONS IN THE MODEL ARE GOOD RIGHT? SO THE NUMBERS IN THE MODEL DON'T CHANGE BASED ON THE SAMPLING THAT WAS TAKEN. IF THEY'RE WITHIN DELTA OF WHAT THE MODEL SHOWS, THEN THEY TAKE THE MODEL FOR AS IS. >> HORNE: SO WHEN THEY'RE BACK THERE AND THEY APPLY THE MODEL TO THE OUTSIDE OF YOUR BUILDINGS, AND THEY TOOK IT FROM THOSE THREE DISTINCT -- FOUR DISTINCT MEASURING POINTS, I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT CORRELATES TO THE MODEL, WHEN YOU LOOK ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THIS, ON THE MID RISE, FIRST FLOOR, THEY WERE UNDER THE 65DB, AND AS YOU WENT UP, IT GOT -- OF COURSE IT WENT HIGHER. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>ORNE: AND THEN WHEN YOU WERE ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE SINGLE FAMILY, ATTACHED, THEY WERE RIGHT AT THE BORDERLINE. >> YES. >> HORNE: SO THAT WAS THE CSE THERE, AND THEN THEY MEASURED IT ON THE THIRD FLOOR. ARE YOU PROPOSING YOU'RE GOING TO PUT BALCONIES ON THE THIRD FLOOR. >> Smith : WE PUT RESTRICTIONS WITHIN OUR STIPULATIONS THAT ANYWHERE WHERE THE MODEL SHOWS IT'S ABOVE 65 dB, WE WILL NOT PUT ANY BALCONIES. I KNOW IT'S MEASURED ON THE OUTDOOR SPACE, THERE'S NO OUTDOOR SPACE ON THE EXTERIOR OF THOSE BUILDINGS. >> HORNE: THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE HAS TO DO WITH PARTICULATES. IS THERE ANY HIGH VOLUME PARTICULATE SAMPLING ON THIS SITE, WE SPECULATING DUST BORN -- COMING FROM THE CONSTRUCTION OF PLANO PARKWAY, WHICH SEEMS TO GO FOREVER. BUT MY POINT BEING IS WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA. >> THERE'S NO DATA. IT'S FROM MY UNDERSTANDING VERY DIFFICULT TO GET AND IS NOT APPLIED AS PART OF THE EHA POLICY. >> HORNE: OKAY. >> OTHER THAN TO STATE BEYOND THE 300 FEET THAT THE PARTICULATE MATTER GOES AWAY, SUCH THAT WE PUT THE 435 -- >> HORNE: THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE 435-FOOT SETBACK VERSUS THE 300. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANKS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANKS BRIAN. ANY THOUGHTS, ANY COMMENTS? PLEASE. >> Tu: THIS IS MARIA TU, MAYOR. >> Mayor Muns: HI, MARIA, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE YOU, GO AHEAD. >> Tu: I'M REALLY TORN ON THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE I REALLY DO LIKE WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED; HOWEVER, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS AN APPEAL FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING, IN OTHER WORDS, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE A SUPER MAJORITY IN ORDER FOR IT TO PASS. I WOULD LIKE, MAYOR, FOR YOU TO SORT OF GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE ARE UNABLE TO COME TO A DECISION, THEN I WANT SOME OPTIONS TO BE AVAILABLE INSTEAD OF HAVING THIS PLAN JUST COMPLETELY DISSIPATED. POSSIBLY HAVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING LOOK AT IT AGAIN. I DO UNDERSTAND THE PLANNING AND ZONING AT THE TIME OF THIS -- WHEN THIS WENT THROUGH, THERE WERE ONLY SEVEN OF THEM, AND THERE WERE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDINGS I BELIEVE, AT THE TIME OF DISCUSSION. SO WITH THAT, MAYOR, I'M JUST GNG T-- >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. >> Tu: LEAVE IT. >> Mayor Muns: I APPRECIATE IT. GO AHEAD, MAYOR PRO TEM. >> Prince: I'LL JUST SHARE WHAT I THINK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT I WANTED TO RUN FOR COUNCIL WAS BECAUSE I LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE -- FOR 40 YEARS -- I LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PLANO IS A VIBRANT CITY FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT COME AFTER ME, AND SO IT PAINS ME TO SEE A BUILG THERE EMPTY AND VACANT FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS AND TO THINK THAT IT WILL KEEP SITTING THERE VACANT. SO I ALSO -- I ALSO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE POLICIES AND I KNOW WE -- MANY OF US ON HERE VOTED FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT IN OUR CURRENT MARKET, I THINK IT'S UNREALISTIC TO THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE EVERY PROPERTY THAT WE WANT REVITALIZED TO HAVE 50% OF NONRESIDENTIAL, JUST IN THIS MARKET, IF WE WANTHINGS REVITALIZED. SO TO ME, I THINK THIS IS ONE THAT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO PASSION AND TO HELP REVITALIZE THIS AREA AND SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT, AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. >> MR. MAYOR -- >> Tu: AND I WILL SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. COUNCILMAN HORNE. >> HORNE: THANK YOU. I LOOKED AT THIS PROPERTY, WENT BY THE PROPERTY, AND YES, YOU CAN HEAR THE ROAD NOIS R THE ROAD NOISE COMING OFF OF PLANO PARKWAY, AND I DO HAVE -- WELL, I DO BELIEVE IN ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, AND I THINK WHERE OUR PETITIONER IS LOOKING TO AMEND THAT THROUGH THE WAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION, THE OUTSIDE NOISE, WE ALLOWED THAT IN THE RO190, THOUGH THAT WAS PROBABLY UNDER A PREVIOUS PLAN, BEFORE WE HAD OUR EHA NUMBERS. SO I THINK IT'S GROSSLY UNFAIR THAT WE WOULD NOT APPROVE THIS, BECAUSE WE REVISED OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. AND LIKEWISE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT LEGACY WEST DEVELOPMENT, WE APPROVED A HIGHRISE CONSTRUCTION THERE THAT WAS IN AN EH2 AREA. SO THIS REVITALIZATION, IF WE TAKE INTO PARTNERSHIP WITH THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING TO THE WEST, WILL MEET THE OCCUPANCY GOALS THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR WITH A PERCENTAGE OF OFFICE SPACE AND RESIDENTIAL, AND WITH THE HAVG THAT OPEN SPACE THERE, THAT ONE AND A HALF ACRES, I THINK THAT WILL BE WELCOMING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M IN FAVOR OF PUSHING THIS FORWARD, AND MAYBE DOWN THE LINE, WHEN THE OFFICE REQUIREMENTS ARE CHANGED, MAYBE THAT GO FROM I GUESS THE SIX STORY BUILDING, MAYBE GO TO 12 STORY, BUT THAT'S TO BE CASE IN THE FUTURE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE FACED WITH THIS REDEVELOPMENT, AND I WOULD VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT. >> Mayor Muns: GO AHEAD. >> Ricciardelli: THANK YOU MAYOR. WELL, I WANT TO FIRST OF ALL, I HAD A GREAT MEETING WITH BRIAN WOLF FROM THE APPLICANT, WE MET FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF, I THINK I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THIS IS A VERY HARD ZONING CASE. I FEEL TORN FOR MANY OF THE REASONS THAT MARIA, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TU DESCRIBED, UNEXPECTEDLY SO, GIVEN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL, AND THE P&Z RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. THIS PLAN IS VASTLY IMPROVED FROM THE PROPOSAL A COUPLE OFEARS A THAT CAME FORWARD, THE OPEN SPACE, THE PLAZA GREEN IS A REAL PLUS, THE COMMITMENT TO HIGH DESIGN STANDARDS IS A REAL PLUS, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A TOD LOCATION, AND I THINK THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE EHA POLICY FROM A MITIGATION PERSPECTIVE, REALLY WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ABOUT WHERE HUMANS ARE, AND WHERE THEY WILL ENCOUNTER SOUND AND THEY'VE MITIGATED FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT NOISE LEVELS INDOORS. AND ALSO OF COURSE THE REDEVELOPMENT OF A CLOSED BIG BOX RETAIL STORE IS A PLUS AS THE MAYOR PRO TEM ALLUDED TO. SO I FEEL REALLY TORN ABOUT THIS, BUT AS CHRISTINA TALKED ABOUT, DO I JUST COME DOWN THINKING THAT THE COMMERCIAL IS LIGHT COMPARED TO THE AMOUNT OF MULTI-FAMILY, AND THE INCONGRUITY IS NOT LOST ON ME THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PROPOSE AN ENTIRELY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, RGM FIVE DOES NOT APPLY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUCH THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CHANCE THAT WE COULD END UP FAVORING DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE ZERO PERCENT COMMERCIAL RATHER THAN SOME COMMERCIAL, SO I HOPE THAT WE'LL BE CAREFUL NOT TO DO THAT, AND NOT TO -- NOT TO FAVOR DEVELOPMENTS WITH ZERO PERCENT NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OVER THOSE THAT ENDEAVOR TO HAVE SOME. NONETHELESS, EVEN IF THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, ZERO PERCENT NONRESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T GET OVER THE IDEA THAT NOT EVERY REDEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY CAN OR SHOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH PREDOMINANTLY MULTI-FAMILY REDEVELOPMT. THIS IS AN AREA THAT ALREADY HAS ZONING FOR LIGHT MANUFACTURING USES. WE COULD, YOU KNOW, BUILD ON THE SUCCESS OF THE GROWING RT DISTRICT THAT'S NEARBY WITH HIGH TECH LIGHT MANUFACTURING USE THAT I THINK WOULD BE VERY APPROPRIATE AND BENEFICIAL HERE, AND I WOULD HOPE PROFITABLE FOR THE DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, IF -- AS WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS RETAIL THAT NEEDS REDEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, ONE LESSON THAT WE'VE TAKEN FROM THAT IS THAT PERHAPS WEHOUL'T HAVE APROVED SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT FOUR CORNER RETAIL, IT'S BIG BOX RETAIL, SO MUCH FOUR CORNER AND OTHER RETAIL BACK IN THE 1980s, THE LESSON THAT I WOULD GENERALIZE FROM THAT, WE DON'T WANT TO GET OVERWEIGHTED ON ANY ONE LAND USE TYPE, RIGHT NOW I THINK WE'RE SEEING A TREND WHERE VIRTUALLY EVERY REDEVELOPMENT IS BEING ACCOMPLISHED PRIMARILY WITH MULTI-FAMILY, AND THAT CHANGES THE BALANCE OF LAND USES IN THE CITY, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS REALLY DESIGNED TO GIVE CAREFUL THOUGHT TO LAND USES IN THE CITY, I THINK RETAINING THIS FOR A COMMERCIAL USE POTENTIALLY A LIGHT MANUFACTURING OR AN INDUSTRIAL USE IS -- WOULD BE A POSITIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND I HOPE IT WOULD BE A GREAT SUCCESS FOR THE DEVELOPER, CLEARLY, YOU'VE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THIS, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFUL PROPOSAL HERE. BUT I CAN'T CONCLUDE THAT A CHANGE FROM THE CURRENT ZONING TO THE NEW ZONING WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT STAY COMMERCIAL AND, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT THAT LIGHT MANUCTURG POTENTIAL USE IS VIABLE, SO WHILE IT'S REALLY, REALLY A CLOSE CALL, MUCH CLOSER THAN I EXPECTED IT TO BE, THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN VERY PERSUASIVE, CLEARLY PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT AND EFFORT INTO THIS, I APPRECIATE THE ATTENTION TO QUALITY AND DETAIL, BUT I CAN'T QUITE GET THERE, SO I WILL BE VOTING NO TONIGHT. THANKS SHELBY. >> Williams: THANK YOU, MAYOR, I APPRECIATE THE CONCEPT THAT THE APPLICANT HAS BROGHT FORTH, I APPRECIATE THEY WORK WITH THE CITY TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE ISSUES HERE, AND I'M SENSITIVE TO SEVERAL THINGS. I'M SSITIVEO THE FACT THAT THE LAND WITH US ACQUIRED UNDER THE PRIOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ALTHOUGH IT WAS ACQUIRED UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING, WHICH WOULD STILL NEED TO BE CHANGED. I'M ALSO SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT THE CURRENT MARKET PROBABLY DOESN'T SUPPORT THE AMOUNT OF OFFICE SPACE AT LEAST, BUT THERE ARE OTHER FORMS OF COMMERCIAL THAT WOULD MAKE THIS VIABLE WITH LESS RESIDENTIAL OR NO RESIDENTIAL. THE REALITY IS THE DUST HASN'T SETTLED IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL SPACE VIABILITY FROM THE PANDEMIC, IT'S STILL EVOLVING, STILL CHANGING. I'M ALSO MINDFUL OF THE VACANCY OF THIS LAND. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. I SPENT A LOT OF MONEY THAT FRY'S, NOT ENOUGH TO KEEP THEM IN BUSINESS. BUT I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. AND I DON'T WANT ANY PART OF OUR CITY TO FALL INTO BLIGHT. HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS WHERE YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FAIL FAST IN SEARCH OF A SOLUTION. YOU CAN JUST KEEP TRYING THINGS UNTIL SOMETHING WORKS. DEVELOPMENT ISN'T ONE OF THOSE THINGS. ONCE IT'S DEVELOPED, IT'S DEVELOPED. AND LITERALLY SET IN CONCRETE. AND I BELIEVE THAT WE DO NEED TO TAKE A STRATEGIC APPROACH TO REDEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY OF THESE CORNERS, WHICH ARE RIGHT BETWEEN TWO SPROIS. WE ONLY HAVE FOUR IN THE CITY, THAT ARE IN THE CITY OF PLANO. AND THAT ARE RIGHT IN THE CRUX OF THOSE. THOSE ARE VERY SPECIAL AREAS, AND EVENF THEY DON'T COME ALONG FOR ANOTHER TWO AND A HALF YEARS, I BELIEVE THAT THESE SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR SOMETHING SPECIAL. DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A UNICORN. BUT I BELIEVE THERE ARE MORE OPTIONS THAT ARE MORE COMPLIMENTARY TO THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA AS WELL AS THE EAST SIDE. AND WHILE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A PLAN, RIGHT THERE IN THE TITLE, AS SOME HAVE CHARACTERIZED, NOT YOU, COUNCILMAN HORNE, BUT AS ME HAVE CHARACTERIZED, IT'S NOT JUST A PLAN. I KNOW WE ALL TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY, NOT LEAST BECAUSE OF HOW IT CAME TO BE, NOT ONLY EVERYTHING THAT WENT INTO DEVELOPING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT THE -- ALL OF THE ANGST IN THE CITY THAT LED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ITSELF, AND SO I DO TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY, AND I DON'T BELIEVE -- ACTUALLY, WATCHING THE P&Z FOOTAGE, I KNOW THE EHA, THE ONLY THINGS AT ISSUE, THEY DID CONSUME A LOT OF DISCUSSION, THERE WERE OTHER ISSUES, AND THE END, I DON'T -- I DON'T THINK THAT RESIDENTIAL AT ALL, SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTI-FAMILY IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS CORNER. I THINK THE -- THE POTENTIAL FOR BETTER COMMERIAL USES IS THERE, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE US 20 YEARS TO GET AT A GOOD -- A GOOD CONCEPT FOR IT. MAYBE EVEN SOMETHING WITH THE CURRENT ZONING. DOESN'T EVEN REQUIRE REZONING, BUT FOR TT, -- YOU CAN PROBABLY GUESS, I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT, THOUGH I SHOULD REITERATE I DO APPRECIATE THE PLAN THE APPLICANT CAME UP WITH. I DON'T WANT TO UNDERSTATE THAT. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCILMAN HOLMER. >> Holmer: I'M LIKE KAYCI, I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE MY WHOLE LIFE. I'VE GROWN UP WITH PLANO, AND I ALSO AM SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT I DON'T LIKE SEEING THESE BLIGHTED AREAS. I THINK IT'S REALLY UNUSUAL TO SEE SO MUCH SUPPORT FROM NEIGHBORS OF A DEVELOPMENT AND TO SEE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE SURROUNDING SUPPORT, EVEN BUSINESSES THAT THEORETICALLY WOULD BE IN COMPETITION SUPPORTING THIS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LAND MAP AND WHO ELSE GIVES SUPPORT, MOST OF THE OPPOSITION DIDN'T COME FROM CLOSE PROXIMITY, I ACTUALLY RECEIVED AN E-MAIL TONIGHT FROM SOMEONE, OR THIS AFTERNOON, FROM SOMEONE IN OPPOSITION, AND IRONICALLY, ONE OF THE SENTENCES SAYS MUST YOU ALL COVER UP EVERY BIT OF GREEN SPACE IN OUR SCITY, AND THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ACTUALLY GIVING US SOME GREEN SPACE THAT I DON'T THINK WE WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE, QUITE HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER WOULD COME IN HERE AND GIVE US ONE AND A HALF ACRES OF GREEN SPACE. I THINK IT'S AMAZING AND I THINK THAT REALLY LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORS AND WHAT IS UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM AND THE DEVELOPMENTS NEARBY AND THE RESIDENTS NEARBY. I DID SPEAK TO SOME OF THE OTHER LAND OWNERS WHO ARE REALLY WANNG TO SEE -- SEE ALL OF IT REVITALIZED, AND THERE'S SO MUCH RETAIL IN THAT ARE THAT'S BEEN SITTING -- I MEAN, ASIDE FROM FRY'S, QUITE HONESTLY, THAT HAS BEEN SITTING VACANT OR UNDERUTILIZED FOR A LONG TIME ALREADY, TO COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS' POINT ABOUT THAT LOCATION BEING KIND OF PRIME WITH IT BEING AT THAT INTERSECTION OF THESE TWO MAJOR HIGHWAYS, I ACTUALLY FEEL DIFFERENTLY ABOUT IT, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS THE WEIRDEST INTERSECTION TO GET TO, IT'S VERY AWKWARD TO TURN BACK INTO THAT AREA, AND FOR THAT REASON, I FEEL LIKE RESIDENTIAL MAKES MORE SENSE BA THERE. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF IT FOR THAT REASON, THE NOISE -- ACTUALLY, LET ME GET TO -- AS WE MENTIONED, THE AREA BEING BLIGHTED, I MEAN IT IS ATRACTING CRIME RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF GRAFFITI EVERY TIME I GO BY. I SEE THAT. SO THAT IS NOT OBVIOUSLY FAVORABLE, BUT JUST WHAT AS A FORMER SMALL BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESS OWNER, I'M SENSITIV TO THE OTHER BUSINESSES DOWN THERE, AND THEM WANTING TO SEE THAT REVITALIZED. I THINK THAT WE WILL BENEFIT FROM THE CITY LINE TRAFFIC DOWN THERE, AND THEN I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, WHAT IS IMPORTANT ABOUT THAT LOCATION IS THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT MASS TRANSIT THERE THAT -- PUBLIC TRANSIT THAT I THINK PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. IT'S ONE OF THE MAIN LOCATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN PLANO THAT THE PEOPLE REALLY CONDITION TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR PUBLIC TRANSIT, SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T -- I DON'T -- TO ME, THERE'S A COST TO WAITING FOR SOMETHING BETTER TO COME ALONG. I DON'T SEE THAT BEING AN ADVANTAGE. I -- I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG TIME BEFORE WE SEE ALL THE EMPTY COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT'S SITTING AROUND, AND ALREADY APPROVED, THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN DEVELOPED YET, BEFORE WE SEE THAT GETTING FILLED UP, SO I THINK THERE'S A REAL COST TO WAITING. AND TO MARIA'S POINT, I ALSO WOULD HAVE LIKE TO HAVE SEEN ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT AT THE P&Z HEARING TO HEAR THE DISCUSSION FROM THE ABSENT MEMBER AS WELL AS JUST THE INTERACTION THERE. I ALSO FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO REEVALUATE OUR ORDINANCES FOR SOUND. I DON'T THINK THE INTENTION IS REALLY BEING MET IF WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT NOISE WITHIN -- WITHIN BUILDINGS, WE'RE ONLY LOOKING ON THE OUTSIDE, IF NO ONE IS GOING TO BE LIVING ON THE OUTSIDE, AND I DON'T IF THE CITY MANAGER CAN GIVE US SOME DIRECTION OR LEGAL, BUT I AM IN F FOR O THIS, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN'T -- WE DON'T GET A SUPERMAJORITY, I WOULD HATE TO SCRAP THE WHOLE THING. I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY SO -- >> Mayor Muns: COUNCILMEMBER SMITH? >> Smith : GEE, THANKS, NO PRESSURE HERE. [ LAUGHTER ] >> Mayor Muns: I'LL GO AFTER YOU. >> Smith : OH, GOOD. I HAVE SOME TREPIDATION. I REALLY LIKE WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS PUT FORWARD, THE TIME, THE EFFORT, HIS WORK, FROM WHAT I UERSTAND THE PLANNING STAFF HAND IN HAND, AND HAS REALLY ATTEMPTED TO MAKE THE CHANGES TO KEEP THIS THING MOVING FORWARD. MY QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT WHAT IS THIS GOING TO BRING IN TERMS OF BUILT-OUT MARKET VALUE FOR THE CITY, I'M VERY AWARE OF THIS PROJECT, THIS SITE HAS BEEN VACANT FOR THREE YEARS, PLUS -- I REMEMBER HOW LONG A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, BUT C COLLIN CREEK WAS PRETTY MUCH A DEAD AREA TOO, AND THAT ALMOST DIDN'T COME TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, BEFORE IT FINALLY DID COME TOGETHER, I'M LIKE COUNCILMAN HOLMER, I HATE TO SEE THIS GO AWAY. IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE A SUPER MAJORITY. MAYBE THIS IS A MICHELLE QUESTION. WHAT I'D LIKE TO POSE, AND MAKE A MOTION, IF IT'S APPLICABLE, THAT IF THIS DOES NOT RECEIVE A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE ON THIS PASS, I'D LIKE TO INTERA BACKUP MOTION TO REMAND THIS BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING, GIVE THE APPLICANT A CHANCE TO MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES, BECAUSE THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, THAT I DIDN'T HERE, WAS I MENTIONED ONE OF THE OTHER PROJECTS, KIND OF -- SORT OF A SIMILAR SITUATION, MULTI-FAMILY, AND THEY DID MAKE AN EFFORT, THEY DID GO TO ADDITIONAL EXPENSE, AND THEY UPPED THE AIR FILTRATION, THE CAPABILITY ON THEIR PROJECT, IT WAS A GOOD GESTURE, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO PAY OFF FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE LONG-TERM, SO THAT MIGHT BE ONE THING TO CONSIDER. SO WOULD THAT BE A FEASIBLE PROPOSAL TO MAKE? BECAUSE -- AGAIN, I HATE TO SEE THIS GO AWAY, BECAUSE I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS DONE SOME REALLY GOOD THINGS, AND I DO BELIEVE THEY WOULD DELIVER A GOOD PRODUCT, BUT THERE'S JUST THOSE X'S THERE THAT JUST DID NOT MEET, JUST BOTHER ME, AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED IN SOME METHOD TO MAKE THIS THING BE A VIABLE PROJECT. SO I WOULD, BEFORE WE VOTE, I WOULD MAKE A BACKUP MOTION -- >> Mayor Muns: WE'LL DO IT IF TH. >> Smith : I WANT TO BE SURE -- ASSUMING THE SLOAT VOTE DOESN'T GO SUPER MAJORITY, THAT IT DOESN'T DIE RIGHT HERE. OKAY? GREAT. >> Mayor Muns: I'LL FINISH. I AM A WHOLE LOT LIKE MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCILMEMBER HOLMER, WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, BEING AROUND HERE FOR A LONG TIME, AND SEEING BLIGHTED AREAS THAT REALLY CONCERN YA' OVER A LENGTHY PERIOD OF TIME. THIS ONE IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THOSE. I LIKE COUNCILMEMBER HORNE, I WALKED IT A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, AND WALKED ALL THE WAY TO THE DART STATION, AND IT'S JUST -- IT'S JUST A FABULOUS OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE EMPLOYMENT HOUSING FOR ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES, WHETHER IT BE ALL THE WAY TO THE R AND T, OR COMPANIES THAT ARE MOVING TO PLANO ALL OVER THE CITY. FOR THESE PEOPLE TO HAVE SUCH GREAT ACCESS TO NOT ONLY T DART RAIL, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT REDEVELOPMENTS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT VERY DIFFICULT PROJECTS. NEVER IS A REDEVELOPMENT EXACTLY AS YOU PLAN IT. THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE VARIABLES THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT UNTIL YOU GET INTO IT. I THINK WE'VE SEEN THAT WITH COLLIN CREEK. I THINK IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT WHEN YOU WANT TO REVITALIZE SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR SO LONG, IT DOES REQUIRE SOME INNOVAON CREATIVITY AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DESIGN THAT YOU PUT INTO IT. ONE AND A HALF ACRES OF GREEN SPACE IS JUST UNHEARD OF. I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT OF GREEN SPACE. AND SO WHAT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE IS A CONCRETE PARKING LOT AND A DELAPIDATED BUILDING THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME, AND TO KNOW THAT THIS OPPORTUNITY IS RIGHT HERE FOR US, I -- I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE. I APECIATE LOWERING THE DENSITY FROM YOUR INITIAL PROPOSAL. AND THIS IS JUST ONE THAT IS A INFIELD REDEVELOPMENT THAT CAN REALLY BE SOMETHING SPECIAL, AND RIGHT NOW, AS A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER, THIS HAS -- I HAVE NO INTEREST IN THIS TO BECOME A COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDIN. IT JUST WOULD NOT WORK. THE ACCESS AND EGRESS IN IT REALLY DON'T WORK, AND SO THIS OPPORTUNITY SEEPS LIKE A REALLY GOOD ONE. AND I KNOW HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND DILIGENCE THROUGHOUT THIS. .I FOR ONE AM FOR THIS PROPOSAL, AND SO I WILL VOTE FOR IT, BECAUSE I DO THINK THIS IS THE KIND OF REDEVELOPMENT WE NEED IN ARS OF JUST A BLIGHTED DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR TOO LONG, AND I THINK WE'RE ALL TIRED OF SEEING IT, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE MAGICAL PRINCE RIDE IN ON THE WHITE HORSE AND COME UP WITH SOME AMAZING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO I AM FOR THIS AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. SO WE DON'T HAVE ELECTRONICS. SO I'M GOING TO NEED YOU TO VOTE. SO ITEM 2, HAS BEEN PROPOSED TO PASS, WITH A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF PASSING ITEM 2, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY, THAT'S FIVE. OPPOSE? THREE. OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION NOW, RICK? >> Smith : YES, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REMAND THIS PROJECT BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING FOR ADDIONAL. >> Tu: SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO SEND THIS BACK TO P&Z, HOPEFULLY A FULL COMMISSION TO VOTE ON IT. SO WE'RE READY TO VOTE FOR THIS? ALL IN FAVOR TO SEND IT BACK TO P&Z? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY. SO MOTION PASSES 7-1. OKAY. THANK YOU. ITEM 3. >> City Clerk: ITEM NUMBER 3, CONSIDERATION OF RFP NUMBER 2022-0373-BR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SOFTWARE SYSTEM FOR A SEVEN YEAR CONTRACT WITH THREE ONE YEAR CITY OPTIONAL RENEWALS TO PURCHASE A DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SOFTWARE SYSTEM THROUGH UNISYS CORPORATION IN AN ESTIMATED TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT OF $3,625,892. CLARITY CLOUD, INC. IN AN ESTIMATED TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT OF $5,623,542. AND AVOLVE SOFTWARE IN AN TIMENTED TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT OF $1,430,537 FOR A COMBINED TOTAL AMOUNT OF $10,679,971, AND AUTHORIZING THE ESTIMATE T EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ACTUALLY ITEMS 3 AND 4 GO TOGETHER ON THIS, FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, I WANTED ROGER TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS TO COUNCIL BRIEFLY. WE GET A LOT OF DISCUSSION FROM DEVELOPERS ABOUT OUR PROCESSES AND EFFICIENCIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, HOW WE ACTUALLY DO OUR WORK, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT TOOL WITHIN OUR LAND USE AND OUR DEVELOPMENT GROUP. SO ROGER HAS A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION. WE'LL GET THROUGH AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BUT THOUGHT THIS WAS IMPORTANT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO HEAR. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, CITY MANAGEMENT, VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION, ROGER HAS A TENDENCY TO TALK A LOT. SO THANK YOU FOR THE INTRO THERE MARK. THE -- THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT CITY FACED QUITE AWHILE, AND TH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SOLUTIONS, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF FOCUS ON IT, MY ENTIRE TENURE HERE, KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE'RE DOING. THE CURRENT SYSTEM WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 2015, THAT SYSTEM HAD SOME IMPLEMENTATION ISSUES RELATIVE TO SOME OF THE WAYS IT WAS CONGURED, THEATA MIGRATION AND WORK FLOWS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THE SYSTEM ITSELF IS NOT EXTREMELY ROBUST SYSTEM THAT LACKS A LOT OF FEATURES, CORE FEATURES, OFFENSIVELY AROUND MOBILITY AND REALTIME ACCESS TO INFORMATION. THE APPLICATION DUE TO THAT LACK OF FEATURES HAS KIND OF GROWN ORGANICALLY, SO WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THIS DEVELOPMENT STAFF IS A VERY CREATIVE STAFF, THEY'RE ALWAYS VERY DILIGENT AND FOCUSED ON MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE CITIZENS, SO THEY HAVE FOUND WAYS AROUND THE SYSTEM TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. WE ESTIMATE UPO 65 TO 0% OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ACTUALLY DONE OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM THROUGH MANUAL PROCESSES AND THINGS, AND THAT HAS LED TO A SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN VERY HARD TO MAINTAIN AND TO EXPAND AND TO ADD NEW CAPABILITIES TO. SO WE REACHED OUT TO THE VENDOR. 2021, BEGINNING OF 2021, TO TRY TO REMEDIATE SOME OF THESE ISSUES. WE FOUND THAT THEY WERE LACKING IN THEIR SUPPORT AND CAPABILITIES TO MEET OUR NEEDS. WE CONTINUED TO WORK WITH THEM FOR AN AMOUNT OF TIME, WE ENGAGE ADVENT DOOR TO DO A GAP ANALYSIS WHAT OUR TRUE NEEDS ARE FROM OBJECTIVE STANDPOINT. SO WE ENGAGED CONSULTING COMPANY CALLED BERRY DUNN, TO MOVE THAT FROM THAT GAP ANALYSIS AND REQUIREMENTS INO SOMETHING THAT COULD BECOME AN RFP, SO WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT. THE FINDINGS FROM THE ASSESSMENT WAS WE NEEDED A MODERN SYSTEM. WE NEEDED THAT SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO STREAMLINE OUR PROCESSES AND THE WORK THAT WE DO, INTERLLY, SO THAT WE COULD BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT, BUT ONLY FOR THE REASON OF MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. A LOT OF REALTIME STATUS FOR ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED WAS DEEMED A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THAT, WHICH INCLUDES DASHBOARDS, WE WANTED TO HAVE PORTAL CAPABILITIES AND ONLINE PAYMENTS, AND WE NEED THAT SYSTEM TO BE MOBILE FRIENDLY, NOT JUST FOR SUBMISSIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT FOR THE INSPECTIONS, NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON A AN iPAD, PHONE, LAPTOP, EQUALLY THE SAME, REGARDLESS OF THE FORM. SO WE TOOK ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AND WE WENT INTO AN RFP PROCESS. WHEN WE CAME THROUGH THAT RFP PRO; WE LOOKED AT NINE DIFFERENT VENDORS. WE DID A VERY LARGE SEARCH. NINE VENDORS CAME BACK AS POTENTIAL. WE DID A VERY EXTENSIVE REVIEW OF THAT, DEMONSTRATIONS, AND THEN DETERMINED THAT THIS PARTICULAR SUITE OF VENDORS MET OUR NEEDS. THIS IS ONE SOLUTION PROPOSED. CLARITY CLOUD, A SALESFORCE PLATFORM ROBUST VERY EXTENSIBLE PLATFORM, THAT IS GOING TO BE THE MAIN ENGINE. AND THEN A VOLVE DOES OUR PERMITTING. THAT SYSTEM IS INTEGRATED WITH CLARITY. THEIR WORK FLOWS ARE DESIGNED TO WORK TOGETHER. THAT AUTOMATICALLY GOES BACK INTO THE CLARITY SOLUTION, AND YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU STAND, WHICH ENABLES REALTIME STATUS FOR THE STAFF AND FOR THE CITIZENS. AND WE WANT THIS TO BE ONE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, NOT INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS WITH STOVE PIPE PROCESSES. SO UNION UNYSIS WILL DO ALL THE MIGRATIONS AND OVERSEE THE CONFIGURATIONS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, DEVELOPED FROM THE SYSTEMS SIDE, THE GLUE THAT KIND OF BRINGS THIS TOGETHER, THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX PROJECT, I HAVE SEVEN DEPARTMENTS ON HERE, ALCOHOL LICENSING, WHICH MAKES IT NINE, VERY COMPLEX PROCESS, 27 MONTHS IS THE PROPOSED TIMELINE AND ITS ALL OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THAT'S THE SOLUTION FORHE SOFTWARE. WE'RE PROPOSING ITEM I THINK IT'S 4 TO BRING IN BERRY DUNN, THE SAME ONE THAT DID THE GAP NATIONAL, AND CONTRACT NEGOTIATION, WE WANT TO BRING THEM IN, THEY HAVE EXTENSIVE DOMAIN KNOWLEDGE OF OUR PROCESSES AND HOW WE DO BUSINESS, WHAT OUR DEVELOPMENT NEEDS AND WHAT OUR STAFF NEEDS. THEY ALSO RECENTLY IMPLEMENTED THIS EXACT SAME SOLTION. THEY'RE FINISHING IT UP RIGHT NOW IN CALIFORNIA, AT A CITY THE SIZE OF 300,000, SO VERY COMPARABLE TO US. SO THEY'RE FINISHING THAT IMPLEMENTATION UP NOW SO THEY KNS THEY KNOW THE PAIN POINTS, INS AND OUTS, THEIR PRACTICE OVERALL HAS EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE IN PERMITTING SPACES, SO THEY ARE BEING BROUGHT IN PARTLY TO SUPPLEMENT MY STAFF, BECAUSE WE HAD NUMEROUS ENTERPRISE PROJECTS GOING ON, FROM A PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND OVERSIGHT, TO A LARGER EXTENT, TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE OBJECTIVE ACCOUNTABLE CHANGE MANAGEMENT PROCESS HERE, AND AS WE START LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING THIS, WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO A LOT OF TRADEOFFS, BECAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARIL HAVE ONE COMMON DEVELOPMENT PROCESS NOW, WE HAVE ONE THAT'S BEEN VERY WELL MASSAGED TO BE, YOU KNOW, AS SEAMLESS AS IT CAN BE WITH ITS STOVE PIPES, THEY'RE GOING TO HELP US WITH BEST PRACTICES, CONTINUITY, BEST PRACTICES INTERNALLY, AND BEST PRACTICES, SO IT WILL KEEP US HONEST, HELP FACILITATE THIS, AND MANAGE THE IMPLEMENTATION. AS I SAID, 27 MONTH PROJECT, IT WILL BEGIN IN AUGUST OF 2023, WE STIMG ESTIMATE, THAT IS ASSUMING APPROVAL, WOULD WRAP UP IN NOVEMBER OF 2025. PART OF BERRY DN' JOB IS TO MAKE SURE WE STAY ON THAT TIMELINE. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE BERRY DUNN CONTRACT IS WE WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH THEM AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE EXACTLY WHAT DELIVERABLES WE WERE PUTTING IN, THAT CONTRACT IS DELIVERABLES BASED WITH SOME TIME AND MATERIALS SUPPORT IN THERE AS WELL. WE WILL ONLY PULL THE TRIGGER AND EXECUTE WHAT WE DEEM NECESSARY FOR THE PROJECT AS WE GO ALONG. THERE'S SOME HEALTH CHECKS, IF ETHICS ARE GOING WELL, WE WON'T HAVE TO EXECUTE, THIS IS THE MOST WEXPECT TO SPEND, THE CONTRACT WITH THE SOFTWARE PIECE IS A TEN YEAR CONTRACT, 7 YEARS WITH THREE RENEWALS, AND THE IMPLEMENTATION COSTS ROUGHLY 2.5 MILLION, THE MAIN SUPPORT IS 8.1. OUR ON GOING COST WILL BE 880,000 ON AVERAGE, OF COURSE ESCALATES 3 TO 4% A YEAR, AND THESE IMPLEMENTATIONS FROM BERRY DUNN WILL BE 848,000 OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT. WE'LL BE GOVERNED BY A PROJECT THAT H BEEN ESTABLISHED, AND THE PROJECT SPONSORS AS PART OF THAT GOVERNANCE TEAM, AND ALSO TSCC, OUR TECHNOLOGY SERVICES STEERING COMMITTEE. THAT'S AS BRIEF AS ROGER CAN BE. >> Mayor Muns: THANKS, ROGER. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ROGER COUNCILMEMBER SMITH? >> Smith : THANK YOU, MAYOR. ROGER, SOUNDS GREAT, I'M ALL FOR IMPROVING OUR TECHNOLOGY FOR SURE, THAT'S ONE THING THAT KEEPS US MOVING AND SUCCESSFUL AS WE ARE. WITH THIS SYSTEM, AND WHAT IT HAS ACCESS, T WHAT CONCERNS IF ANY DO YOU HAVE ABOUT POTENTIAL SECURITY HOLES THAT THIS MIGHT CREATE FOR US, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE NEWS ABOUT THE RANSOM WARE ATTACKS AND THINGS, THIS IS -- CAN BE A GOOD AVENUE TO GET INTO OUR SYSTEM. >> YEAH, ACTUALLY, I SKIPPED THAT BULLET, IT'S IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE STABILITY AND THE SECURITY OF THE SYSTEM. THIS ACTUALLY ENHANCES THAT. SALESFORCE IS A VERY ROBUST MODERN PLATFORM, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING TO A MUCH NEWER, MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED SYSTEM. OU CURRENT SYSTEM ACTUALLY HAS ISSUES WITH US KEEPING IT CURRENT, IT'S NOT WHAT I CALL A WELL PRUNED GARDEN, THIS WILL ENHANCE OUR POSTURE, NOT DIMINISH IT. WE'RE MORE AT RISK HAVING INFORMATION IN DISPARATE PLACES OUTSIDE OF THE SYSTEM THAN WE ARE WHEN YOU PUT IT INTO THE SYSTEM AND I CAN PUT THE PROPER DEFENSE AND LAYERS OF STRATEGY TO THAT. >> Smith : THANKS, ROGER, APPRECIATE THAT. >> THANK YOU, ROGER. I INFERRED FROM THIS, BECAUSE BERRY DUNN HELPED US WORKAROUNDS WITH TRACK IT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE HELPING US OR ADVISING US AT LEAST WITH THE BUSINESS PROCESS REENGINEERING SO THAT WE'RE NOT SIMPLY CONFIGGING THE NEW SOLUTION TO MATCH OUR CURRENT PROCESSES, WHICH WERE WORKAROUNDS TO BEGIN WITH. >> THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE EXTENSIVELY INVOLVED IN HELPING US REDESIGN THE PROCESSES, WE'VE ACTUALLY STARTED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WITHIN TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, MAPPING OUT THE AS IS STATE, WHY ARE WE FOCUSES ON AS IS, INSTEAD OF TO BE, IF YOU MAP OUT THE TO BE, WHEN YOU START ACTUALLY CONFIGGING THE SYSTEM, YOU GO, OH, YEAH, WE FORGOT ABOUT THIS, WE FORGOT ABOUT THAT, SO STARTING WITH THAT AS IS, GIVES US THE GREAT FOUNDATION OF KNOWING WHAT WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR AND WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO ACCOUNT FOR, AND THEN WE START MAPPING OUT THE TO BE. SO THAT PROCESS HAS ALREADY STARTED. WE'RE WELL ON THE PATH. WE'VE BEEN SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, AND THEN THE TEAMS ARE GOING TO BE, WE HAVE A VERY SIGNIFICANT, MAIN, TO MARK AND THE GOVERNANCE TEAM, ACROSS THE DEPARTMENTS, THEY'RE LEADING SEVERAL, LEADING GREAT EFFORTS TO BRING THE TOGEER AS A TRUE TEAM, WE'RE FORMING WHAT'S CALLED A CORE TEAM, THE CORE TEAMS ARE CONSTANT THROUGHOUT, THAT TEAM IS THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO BE TAKING THAT AS IS STATE AND CREATING THE TO BE, BERRY DUNN WILL CONSTANTLY LOOK AT THAT AND SAY BEST PRACTICE IS THIS, WE SOLVED THIS IN OTHER SITUATIONS, OTHER CITIES DO THIS, BUT ON TOP OF THAT, IF WE GET INTO SOME INTERNAL BATTLES, THEY HAVE THE OBJECTIVITY TO WEIGH IN AND SAY, OKAY, I HEAR ALL YOUR VOICES, BUT Y'ALL AREN'T REALLY CONSIDERING THIS PERSPECTIVE. >> Williams: GREAT, THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN RICCIARDELLI. >> Ricciardelli: THANK YOU, MAYOR, ROGER, THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT PRESENTATION, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A VERY EXCITING PROJECT, TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY MAKE THIS AN INCREDIBLE USEFUL TOOL FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S FANTASTIC. IN THE RFP RECAP, I NOTICED THAT UNISYS I THINK IS THE SECOND HIGHEST PRICED OPTION, IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU TALKED ABOUT MY OF THE THINGS THAT U NISYS IS GOING TO OFFER, WITHOUT OFFERING YOU TO GO THROUGH THE OTHER VENDORS OR BASH ON ANYBODY IN SPECIFIC, I'MONDERING WHAT WERE ME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE NOT PRESENT IN SOME OF THE LOWER COST OPTIONS THAT CAUSE US TO SAY THAT WE NEED TO GO WITH U NISYS, THAT IS NOT TO SAY WE SHOULDN'T GET THE BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THAT I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHY THIS IS STILL THE BEST VALUE EVEN AT THE HIGHER PRICE GIVEN, YOU KNOW, HIGHER FUNCTIONALITY. >> SURE. I HAVE EXPERIENCE AND BACKGROUND IN THIS. THIS WAS NOT THE VENDOR I ANTICIPATED. I HAD A VENDOR IN MIND WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS. I TRIED TO STAY OBJECTIVE IN EVERYTHING. AS WE STARTED LOOKING AT ESPECIALLY THE REFERENCES AND THINGS, WE NOTICED THAT WHAT WAS LACKING WITH A LOT OF THE OTHER SYSTEMS WAS THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION. THEY WERE GETTING INSTALLS, THEY WERE GOING THREE AND FOUR YEARS, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WERE LIKE, WE'RE HAVING TO FIGURE IT OUT ON OUR OWN NOW, WE'RE PULLING OUT, WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER PRODUCT, FRANKLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRACK IT IMPLEMENTATION, WHILE THE SOFTWARE WASN'T WHAT IT SHOULD BE, WHAT WENT WRONG WAS THE IMPLEMENTATION. WHEN WE DID REFERENCE CHECKS ON UVMENT NISYS, ONE OF THE THINGS WAS RAVING FANS, THEY WERE LIKE, THEY MADE THE FFERENCE, THEY BROUGHT STSKILL SET TO THIS. WE DO HAVE THE INTEGRATIONS THAT WERE PROMISE AND WE DO HAVE THE WORK FLOWS CONFIGURED CORRECTLY. IT DOESN'T DO GOOD TO GET A GREAT SYSTEM -- THEIR SOLE IS TO ENSURE THESE SYSTEMS ARE PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED. THE ONE WITH THE INTEGRATION AND THE INTERFACES. >> Ricciardelli: CERTAINLY, THANK YOU FOR THAT, THAT CERTAINLY HELPS ME TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS STILL THE BEST VALUE FOR THE CITYND ITS TAXPAYERS, BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SOUNDS LIKE THEY MAY NOT DELIVER AS MUCH VALUE -- >> THIS IS MUCH MORE, WITH IT BEING A SALESFORCE PLATFORM, IT IS EXTREMELY HIGHLY CONFIGURABLE TOOL, WHICH IS A GOOD THING, IT ALSO BRINGS MUCH MORE RISK TO THE IMPLEMENTATION, IT'S IMPORTANT WE HAVE A GOOD PARTNER TO HELP US THROUGH THAT. >> Ricciardelli: THANK YOU FOR THAT GREAT EXPLANATION. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCILMEMBER HOLMER. >> HORNE: WHICH ONE? I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR RFP SHEET, YEAH, I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR RFP SHEET, AND I NOTICE THAT U NISYS WAS AT 13 MILLION PLUS, OKAY, WHAT YOU'RE UP HERE AT YOUR SUMMARY, THE AWARD ALMOST WAS $10 MILLION. ARE WE APPROVING $10 MILLION OR ARE WE -- >> FROM MY MEMORY, THE RFP PIECE, THE ORIGINAL PRICE, WE SCORED THEM ON, AND THEN THEY CAME BACK WITH A BEST AND FINAL OFFER. >> HORNE: YOU WERE ABLE TO SHAVE 3 MILLION OFF THE BEST AND FINAL? GOOD JOB. >> THAT IS NOT ME. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 3 AND 4. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM 3 AND 4, ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES 8-0. THANKS ROGER. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: APPRECIATE IT. WITHOUT FURTHER BUSINESS, WE'RE ADJOURNE