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Welcome. And I'd like to call the meeting to order. And before I do so, we will start with introductions. And let's start with city clerk. Billy Tons, deputy city clerk. Good evening. Bennis Noes, Temple Age at large. Good evening. Thanks for being here today. TW Brown, Charlotte, city council, District 3. Good evening. I'm Renee Johnson and I'm honored to represent District 4. Good evening everyone. James Mitchell City Council Lodge. And a special shout out to my lovely queen. We'll be celebrating our 13th wedding anniversary tonight. Love you. Impressive. Allison Craig, assistant city manager. Good evening and welcome to District 1. Dante Anderson, mayor Pro Tim, District 1. Ed Driggs, District 7. Good evening. Lana Mayo, council member at large. Terry Haggler, Grace, senior assistant city attorney. Fantastic. Okay. So, we will begin our meeting with an invocation as we always do as an expression and inspiration followed by the pledge of allegiance. The invocation by a council member is intended to underscore our proceedings and we celebrate the religious diversity of our community including those without a religious faith. And tonight, Council Member Mayfield will provide our invocation. Thank you. For those that wish, please bow your heads. Let us take a moment of stillness. Eternal spirit of justice and peace, we gather today with heavy hearts and steadfast purpose. As stewards of our community, we ask for guidance rooted in wisdom, humility, and compassion. In a time when our nation wrestles with division, uncertainty, and deep sorrow, help us lead with clarity, courage, and grace. We pause to honor the life and service of Representative Melissa Hortman and her beloved husband. May their memories be a blessing and their legacy of public service inspire us to uphold the values of empathy, integrity, and dedication to the common good. Comfort all who mourn across this nation. Those who have lost ones to violence injustice illness or despair. Remind us that every decision we make here today impacts real lives. May we listen deeply, speak kindly, and act boldly for the sake of those we represent. Let our deliberations reflect the dignity of our calling and the diverse hopes of our community. Amen. Thank you. If you're able to join us, please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Justice for Can we do a check tonight? Interpreters going tonight. go through the decisions and then we'll hit a quick pause to make sure we're all So we begin our our zoning meetings with an explanation of the zoning process and the process begins with applications submitted to planning staff for review. Cases of two types are on the agenda. We have decisions and we have hearings. Decisions on cases for which a public hearing was previously held. Therefore, there are no further public comment. And for hearings, anyone wishing to speak is asked to see our clerk before the start of that particular hearing. Staff will provide a presentation without a time limit. And the petitioner, that is those who are in favor, will receive three minutes combined to present the case unless one of two uh scenarios exist. One is if there's opposition signed up to speak or if staff is in opposition, the petitioner will receive 10 minutes. The opponent will receive 10 minutes combined and a petitioner will receive a two-minute rebuttal. If no one is opposed or signed up to speak, staff will provide their short presentation and the public hearing will be closed and we'll move on to the next public hearing. Petitions go to the zoning committee of planning commission for review and recommendation. And at this time, I'd like to pass it over to Chair Blumenthal, so he can introduce his committee. Thank you very much, Mayor Proim, and thank you, councel. Uh, my name is Andrew Blumenthal. It is my pleasure to serve as the chairman of the zoning committee of the planning commission. Uh, please allow me to introduce my fellow committee members. Starting immediately to my left, we have commissioners Terresa McDonald, Aaron Shaw, Robin Stewart, Shauna Neely, and Rick Wker. Uh, the zoning committee will next meet uh actually not until Tuesday, August 5th at 5:30 p.m. At that meeting, the zoning committee will discuss and make recommendations on the petitions that have public hearings this evening. Uh, the public is welcome to attend that meeting. However, please note that it is not a continuation of any of the public hearings that are being held here tonight. Uh, prior to that meeting, you are welcome to contact us to provide input. Uh, you can find contact information as well as information on each petition on the city's website at charlottplanning.org. Thank you again, Mayor Pro Tim. Thank you, Chair Blumenthal. And so, we will now proceed with our consent agenda items. Reszoning petition items 3 through 7 may be considered in one motion except for those items pulled by a council member. Please note that these petitions meet the following criteria. They've had no public opposition to the petition at the hearing. Staff recommends the approval. The zoning committee recommends the approval. And there are there were no changes after the zoning committee's recommendation. Are there any consent agenda items council would like to pull for separate vote or question? Miss Mayfield, followed by Miss Johnson. Excuse me. Five and six for separate vote. Okay. Five and six for separate vote. Miss Johnson. Um, point of order. Mayor Pro Tim, I I assured the residents back in April when I met with them that there would be an interpret interpreter here. So, um I know we're going on with the meeting and we plan to have an interpreter for the specific petition, but I wanted you all to know I mean I would hope I would have hoped the interpreter would be able to interpret so you all could be a you know hear what's going on, but we can let me assure you that someone is here to interpret the petition. So, I apologize. Yes, Miss Johnson, someone will be able to provide simultaneous interpretation um during the actual hearing for the for the petition. Thank you. Did you have any items you'd like to pull? No, thank you. Okay. Thank you, Councilman. I just Thank you. Yes. Thank you. I just wanted to um Miss Ame, you have a question around the consent items? No, actually, I wanted to follow up on Councilwoman Johnson. Thank you, Councilwoman Johnson, for um making this possible, especially interpreting. I know as part of our triple E committee we had we wanted to make sure that our city services are being accessible. So I appreciate because we did receive some calls and messages about that. Thank you Miss Azmeir. So um is there a motion to approve the following petitions and adopt the zoning committee statement of consistency for each of these petitions as they appear on our agenda this evening? And I will read the all three of the petition numbers. Petition number 2025 010. Petition number 2025 012. And petition number 2025 014. Is there a motion to approve? No. 018 cuz number five and number six is what I pulled out. You pulled five and six. You pulled five and six. Okay. So, okay. scratch um 2025014 and then we have 202518. So items number three, 4 and 7. Is there a motion to approve and adopt? Second. We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor raise hands. Any opposed? That vote is unanimous. So, is there a motion to approve petition number 2025 014 by PT Homes and adopt the zoning committee statement of consistency? Move for approval. Second. Thank you. There is a motion and a second. Any comment? Miss Mayfield. Thank you. I have concerns that even with the entitlement that was only for 293 trips with this additional multif family in this area, it could this proposed zoning could more than double that to over to almost just under 800 trips based on this 110 multif family unit dwelling. as well as when we are talking about diversity in neighborhoods, we are seeing a increase of multif family in some areas that is causing an impact. So, I will not be supporting this project. Thank you, Miss Mayfield. Any additional comment? Hearing none. All in favor raise hands. Any oppose? Miss Mayfield is opposed. Is there a motion to approve petition number 2025 017 and adopt the zoning committee statement of consistency as it appears in our agenda? So move second. Thank you. There's a motion and a second. Any comment? Miss Mayfield. Thank you. This project is to approve a development that has interior privately owned roads. We are already seeing challenges across the city with who is responsible and conversations with HOA which are out of our control and fall squarely in North Carolina General Assembly regarding who is responsible for maintaining these roads. So I have concern that opposed to at the beginning this being identified if it's going to be city road i.e. public vote with access versus coming back later a project being approved that is going to potentially create an undue burden on the residents. Thank you, Miss Mayfield. Any additional comment hearing? None. All in favor raise hands. Any opposed? Miss Mayfield is opposed. Uh that concludes our consent decisions. We will move on to our non-consent uh decisions and we will yes I can't hear you David. Can we go into our deferrals? Uh there were two deferrals that we need to address. Absolutely. Let's So we have two u deferral items this evening. Item number eight, petition number 2025 015 and um item number 14, petition number 2025 021. These can be deferred all in one motion. Is there a motion to defer petition item number eight and petition item number 14 as it approve as it appears in our agenda? So move. There's a motion and a second. Any comment hearing? None. All in favor raise hands. Any opposed? That is unanimous. Thank you, Mr. Pton. So, now we will move into our non-consent uh decisions and we will uh begin with item number nine. 15 is the first hearing. Is there a motion to approve the petition number uh number 2025 047 and adopt the zoning committee's statement of consistency as it appears in our agenda? So moved. Second motion and second. Any comment? I'll just Mr. Driggs. This is our text amendments, right? That's correct. This is our text blind here. My not working. So, um, these are text amendments that they're going to occur on a six-monthly basis. I think we're all familiar with that. So, uh, we've talked through them. There are a number of types of text amendment related to, uh, kind of cleanup or to adjustments that are being made as a result of our experience. This will be a continuing process. The UDO is a living document and, uh, we can expect to see uh, another update in six months, I believe. Anyway, I support it. I hope everybody else will too. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Driggs. Any additional comments hearing? None. All in favor raise hands. Any opposed? That is unanimous. We will move on to agenda item number 10. Um and we have some changes from uh item number 10. Mr. Pton, I'll pass it over to you. Great. Thank you. Yes. Item number 10 uh did have some changes after zoning committee. This is for petition 2023-074. Uh the following changes were made. Uh they did commit to a minimum of four duplexes to be constructed in development area A. They uh solid waste service areas were moved away from property lines adjacent to the neighborhood one place type. Uh condition added that no driveways to individual dwellings would be constructed on Country Lane and development area B. Uh and also a double yellow center line will be striped on Country Lane from the intersection of Providence to the intersection of Genevieve Court. Uh these are changes that uh they worked with on with the community and staff believes that they are minor uh do not warrant additional review, do not change the material nature of the project. Uh we're happy to take any questions you may have. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Pton. Is there a motion that the changes should not go back to the zoning committee? So move. Second. Okay, there's a motion and second. Any comment? Hearing none. All in favor? Raise hands. Any opposed? Okay, that is unanimous. Is there a Is there a motion to approve at petition number 20203 074 and and adopt the zoning committee's statement of consistency as our as our own. Oh, I was going to give to the district rep. So move so move second go. He's having some ch some technical challenges. No problem. Okay, there's a there's a motion and a second. Any discussion? Oh, here he comes. No hearing none. All in favor, raise hands. Any opposed? Okay, that is unanimous. We will move on to item number 11. And again, Mr. Pentton, there have been some changes. Correct. Yes, that's correct. Uh so, petition 2024124 also had changes after zoning committee. Uh the changes that were made uh were that a large row of maturing evergreen trees were added along the rear parking and loading area that would be adjacent to the 100 foot undisturbed buffer and the 100t class A landscape yard. Uh also added that lighting standards uh would limit height of those lighting of that lighting to 30 ft and required all freestanding lights to be fully capped, shielded and downwardly directed and prohibiting wallpack type lighting. Uh these were uh items that were again coordinated with in conversations with the community from our understanding and do not change the material nature of the project. They staff believes they're minor and do not warrant additional review by the zoning committee. Thank you. Thank you. I have a question for Mr. Patton. Yep. Yes, Mr. Patton. Do any of those changes actually address any of the concerns that came for the from the community in regards to this petition? Uh I know there were some conversations about, you know, how far the uses were, some screening. I know that came up at some point. I don't know if they address every material item that they had. The petitioner or the members of the community probably be better to answer that. We got these changes presented to us following some of those conversations. So our uh you know, our information is that these were things that they had asked for that would satisfy some of their concerns. Uh but again, that'd probably be a better question for the petitioner. So based on the information that you have, you did mention because we can barely hear you. So, I want to confirm, did they expand the current 100 foot buffer zone? They added uh a large row of maturing evergreen trees uh basically where that buffer zone would uh kind of start where the parking areas are uh and the loading area. So, it would be that undisturbed row of large maturing trees and then the buffer itself beyond that. So, the answer is they did add to it. They did add to it. Yes. Did they reduce the building footprint? Uh not that I'm aware of. No, that would have been a change. we would have captured as well. Thank you. That's mine. Thank you. Any additional question or comments? Absolutely. So, thank you so much uh Mad Mayor Pro Tim. I have been working extensively with the the community um out been out there numerous of times with Mr. Norman Phillips and um if Mr. Carmichael, can you come down please? Hang on. Is this a question? Yeah. This is Hang Hang on, Miss Brown. this it we're right now we're voting to as to whether or not we want to send the this petition back to the zoning committee because there were changes after the zoning committee's meeting. So unfortunately we can't have u the gentleman come down. No problem. But once we vote on that then we can have deliberation on the actual item. Okay. Any additional questions about sending this particular item back to the to the zoning after changes? No. Okay. Hearing none, we have a motion and a second on that one. There was a M. I'm so moved to take it. Yeah. I seconded. Got it. You have it. Okay. All right. All in favor to not send this item back to the zoning committee after changes, please raise hands. Any opposed? Okay, that is unanimous. Now, is there a motion to approve and adopt petition number 2024 124 and um adopt the zonings committee's statement as of consistency as it appears in our agenda? So move. Second. Okay. Any comment? Yes. Miss So, Miss Brown, would you like to have a comment? However, you can't call anyone to the podium. Can't call them, but it's okay. I I'll make a great want to make sure we're following the proper rules. Miss Brown, you can actually ask ask a specific question of Mr. Carmichael or you can't reopen the public hearing. But if there's a particular question that you have, I'll just make comments. You can comment. I can comment. You can comment and you can ask him a specific question. I don't need to ask him anything. I can just comment on the work that I've done with the petitional and is yours, Miss Brown. Thank you so much. I greatly appreciate the Thank you, Mayor Pro Tim. I don't need to ask Mr. Carmichael anything. I've worked with Morris Park 2 team forever and Mr. Carmichael has been very diligent. Um Morris Park 2 is a community that I favor. It's a very nice community. They really didn't want any development at all in their neighborhood and I understand that, you know, development is going to continue to happen in all of the city of Charlotte. It just depends on um the nature of it. I I I commend um this petition, Aviation Meadows, because Mr. Carmichael came out several times um being willing to meet with the petitioners and they didn't want uh the neighborhood didn't want the petitioners out there. But he's done everything he could possibly do to um answer all of their concerns, all of the questions that they had. even being willing to even after tonight to go back and to meet with them and he's he's made that commitment to me. I uh was out all last week. It was my birthday. I deserve a vacation, right? And so um we were working really hard behind the scenes with this. I've been out on the ground. I've walked uh in the woods. I've seen all of the pinpoints. I've seen uh the the the tree canopies. I've seen the storm water work. I really worked hard on this petition. And so, not an easy decision, but a fair decision. And I'm about fairness. And so, for me, um, I'm going to move forward with it because of all the work that I put in, uh, the zoning team, staff recommendation, and then just the petition itself, just allowing and being very flexible with coming back and forth. It's like a tugof-war. So, it's a fair decision for me. Not a difficult, not an easy decision, but it's a fair decision. So, I'm going to move forward with it. So, thank you, Mr. Carmichael. Thank you, Miss Brown, and thank you for the work that you've done on this particular petition. Are there any additional comments? Hearing none, all in favor to approve and adopt agenda item number 12, please raise hands. Any opposed? Miss Mayfield is opposed. Okay, we will move on to I'm sorry, that was a that was petition number 11. Yes. which we read in the in the actual um minutes. We will move on to a agenda item number 12. Is there a motion to approve the petition number 2025 0005 and adopt the zoning committee statement of consistency as it approves in our agenda? So move second. Okay, we have a we have a a move a movement and a second. Any comment, Miss Johnson? Thank you, Mayor Pro Tim. So, this is in district 2, but it's very close to district 4. And I remember when this petition was uh first filed, I think the developer might have met with me, but I'm very familiar with this this area. And if you recall last month, this was the petition that that we had shared some concerns because it was a conventional versus a conditional. This is in right in the middle of a subdivision, I believe, if I'm correct that it's on the dead end of a residential residential street. Is that right, Mr. Patton? It Yeah, it is at the end of Let me get an idea of the the road name again. Uh, we tal So, it's it's it's in a residential neighborhood. There were Yes. opposition. You're correct. Right. there was opposition from the residents. Um, we don't have a lot of information about what this will be. Furthermore, uh, it's being reszoned to a cottage court overlay. And Mr. Pton, can you give me a little information about cottage court overlays? Sure. Yeah, the cottage court overlay is a development option in our neighborhood one districts. Uh, it is really an option that would allow for smaller lot sizes, smaller unit types. Uh there is a cap of how many total units could be in a project. That would be 30. Uh it doesn't mean that 30 units will always be built. It depends on site constraints and other things. But the goal of the uh cottage court overlay is to allow for again some of those smaller lot options. All the units are to be comprised around common open space. So they all front on some type of open space uh rather than you know fronting on a road or something else. So, it's a bit of a trade-off in design to work with these smaller sites to, you know, get some additional units. Uh, but again, build all that around common open space and, uh, you know, a uniform unit type. When we talked about it earlier, did you use the word like innovative or creative or Yeah, it it allows some flexibility and creativity and and again those lot size standards. So, because there was neighborhood opposition, because this is an existing neighborhood, um, and because this is a conventional versus conditional, we just don't have enough information. So, I won't be supporting it. I think 1.94 acres, um, in a existing subdivision, I think we need a little more information other than to allow a creative or innovative or new type of resoning. So I won't be supporting. Thank you. Thank you. I have Miss Mayfield and then I have Mr. Mitchell. Thank you. Mr. Patton, question for you. What you just mentioned is that the cottage core align uh allows for creativity in the area. In our policy language, do we take into consideration the impact of current neighborhoods when we allow creativity? Cuz we can see examples if you drive up Fourth Street with homes that are much more modern than the neighborhood. They completely look outside. Do we take into consideration the impact of a neighborhood when we have language like that? So the the change that you would primarily see that would be different than just an N1 district is the lot sizes. So even though it's zoned N1A and the lot size standard in N1A, let's say I don't know off the top of my head, 60 80 ft, you could shrink that down in a cottage court for smaller lot options. Again, to make sure that then all those units are built around a common open space area so that when folks walk out the door, they're seeing green space. they're, you know, built around that type of of design standard. Uh, but building heights are all the same, so they can't be taller or, you know, anything out of context with what's already allowed in N1. So, uh, 48 ft would be the building height. But the goal of the cottage court is to really maximize smaller unit types. So, you know, units that could be 1,000 square ft or less to provide a a housing type that maybe is more affordable, uh, but doesn't trade some of those design standards and open space quality, uh, for a project. So, we have some examples of them more historic context like in Elizabeth, there's some on uh, Hawthorne as you're getting right to the bridge, there's a a really good example of one. They're town homes and they all front on open space right before Bay Street. That's a really good example. Uh, and that's really the context of what the ordinance was built off of. We haven't seen a lot of projects to date under the cottage court. We've only had one resoning approved so far. Uh, so I don't have any examples from the UDO to show you, but that is the context they're going for. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mitchell. Yeah, I uh thank you, Mayor Prom. I I want to be sensitive because our colleague, Councilman Graham, is not here this evening and so I guess staff, I have a question. And if it's not time sensitive, I want to be respectful council member Johnson's question as well that we defer this until we have at least Councilman Graham here. This is his district and so we can be fair to both parties. So, uh, when is our next zoning meeting? I believe it is August 18th. Wait, August 18th. Yeah, we don't we don't have any July meetings. I would second that motion. So, yeah, I I just think we got to be fair in form of a substitute. So, I like to we don't have any guidance. It it will have to be done in the form of a substitute motion. So I'd like to make a substitute motion to defer item 2025-2025 to August 18th zoning meeting. Second. Okay. There's a motion and a second to a substitute motion to uh to defer this particular item into our next zoning meeting which occurs in August. And and what we can do in the meantime as well is just try to get y'all some more information on the cottage court overlay, what it what it's intended to, you know, to do in terms of, you know, development outcomes so you guys have that a little bit more clear in front of you for that decision in August. Okay, that would be great. And if it could be a conditional resoning. Yep. Okay, Miss Molina. Um, thank you, Mayor Prom. And just really quickly, u just to, you know, add on to what Councilman Mitchell said, I think it's important to note that, um, and I think that my colleague here, Miss Johnson, has brought up some valid questions, you know, that should be addressed. And I think withstanding the fact that, you know, um, Councilman Graham's not here. It'd be good for him to be here and be able to get some, you know, information from him on the work he's done, if any, you know, what the sentiment of the neighbors and and residents are. So that's one of the reasons why, you know, I'm agreeing to continue the conversation and get those questions answered. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Any additional uh comment on the substitute motion? Hearing none. All in favor of the substitute motion, raise hands. Any opposed? Miss Mayfield is opposed. Okay, we will move on to agenda item number 13. And before we proceed, Mr. Pentton, I believe there changes as well. Yeah, this is our last item with changes. Uh so this is for 2025 016 by Kingdom Development Partners LLC. Uh two changes made after zoning committee. Uh, one note was added that a commitment uh would be made that a minimum of 30% of the multif family attached dwelling units will be affordable and restricted to households earning 80% AMI or less for a period of not less than 15 years from the initial issuance of a certificate of occupancy. Uh, the other note that was added was that multif family attached buildings adjacent to the neighborhood one place type or zoning will not exceed three stories in height or 48 ft. Uh, staff believe those changes are minor. Uh we did uh excuse me reminder and do not warrant additional review by the zoning committee. Thank you Mr. Pton. Is there a motion not to return to the committee? Thank you. There's a motion and a second. Any comment? Hearing none. All in favor raise hands. Any opposed? Okay, that is unanimous. Is there a motion to approve uh petition number 20251016 and adopt the zoning committee's statement of consistency as it appears in our agenda? Move for approval. Second. Thank you. There's a motion and a second. Any comment hearing? None. All in favor raise hands. Any opposed? That is unanimous. And Mr. Pton I believe that concludes our decisions for the evening. Yes, it does. Okay. So, we are going to transition into our hearings and and our very first hearing is item number 15. And if you could just give us a moment, we have provided simultaneous translation on this particular petition. So, if you can just give us a moment or two, council members, please place your your earphone in your ear and make sure the volume is up so when we begin this you'll be able to hear doesn't know to do that. Oh, that's right. Okay. Thank you. We got it. Mayor Pro Tim, I don't I'm not sure if we can find out from staff who's going to be doing the interpreting and if we could maybe get like a test. Yeah, he's on. He's on. Okay. Yes, we we've we've done the test. He's Okay, the gentleman, raise your hand. He's right there. And then anything that we are saying back in the form of questions will be translated with the young lady at the top into Spanish. Okay. All right. So, any more questions before we begin? And please have Grace with us. This is our very first time doing this process here in a zoning meeting. So, um there might be some curve curveball here, but we'll get through it. Mayor Potim, one more thing. And because it is our first time doing this and we um may have some challenges, we have uh allotted or at your discretion, council, uh we suggest that there be an accommodation of 15 minutes instead of 10 minutes when the opposition speakers um take their time. Yes, because there's some time for translation um and just the understanding um we've decided for a reasonable accommodation shift. So when the opposition is speaking they'll have 15 minutes instead of 10 minutes to speak in in aggregate. Yes. Okay. Welcome Mr. Peacock. We'll if you could get your earphone going here. You'll need it in just a minute. All right. We are on agenda item number 15, petition number 2024127 by Wood Partners. The location is approximately 19.49 acres located on the west side of Prosperity Church Road along either side of Nata Park Circle and Butner Trail Lane southeast of Benfield Road and District 4. Miss Johnson's district. The current zoning is N1A. Proposed zoning is N2C and NCCD. Staff recommends approval of this petition upon resolution outstanding issues related to site design. And after staff's presentation, uh, we have Miss Grant, um, and a number of others who may speak who are who will have 10 minutes to, um, speak for this petition. And after that, we will have Yolanda Reyes. And if you hopefully I'm for the opponents who I'm about to speak now, if you all can just be poised to come down um once the time is up, that that'll help us transition pretty quickly. But we have Yolanda Reyes, uh Yolanda Valentine, and Alejandro and Claudia Gomez who are Spanish-speaking uh residents who are in opposition, as well as um Lionol Chavez, Joseph Teague, and Jennifer Kuransza, as well as Sonia Hernandez, Maria Alrain and William Lesley. So it's quite a few of you who are in opposition. What I'd like to tell you is that you're going to have 15 minutes in aggregate all together. So there have to be some coordination of who's going to speak and passing off. So just make sure you're using those 15 minutes wisely. And then of course the petitioner will have a two-minute rebuttal. I have a question from the clerk. A correction. Uh, William is actually number 16. He'll be on the next. Okay. William is is is number 16. Excellent. Thank you. All right. Mr. Pentton, if you would go ahead and and Miss Grant, if you would like to come up. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. Okay. So, 2024 127. Uh, it's about 19 and a half acres located on the west side of Prosperity Church Road along either side of Nata Park Circle and Butner Trail Lane, southeast of Benfield Road. And as mentioned, the property is zoned neighborhood 1A. Uh the proposed zoning is N2C conditional as well as neighborhood center conditional. So N2C and NC conditional. Uh the adopted place type for uh this property is uh neighborhood one as recommended on the 2040 policy map. You can see we do have uh a community activity center just to the south uh of this property as well as on the west side uh uh of this property also or excuse me the east side. Uh the proposal is uh broken up into two development areas. Uh the first development area for residential would be for up to 395 residential units across two of those development areas. Uh development area one would be multif family attached units or town homes. Uh development area two would permit any residential type allowed in N2C. Uh there is a portion of this project that is also proposing non-residential uses. That's that area in red. uh that's along uh the east side or right side of the the projects that you can see up on the screen. Uh that is for up to 25,000 ft of non-residential uses that is considered development area 3. Prohibited uses in that area would include things like gas stations, auto repair, group homes, vehicle rental, self storage, and similar intensive uses. Uh there is a workforce housing commitment within this project and that states that at least 5% of the units in area 2 would be workforce housing and they would be income restricted at uh no greater than 80% AMI for a minimum of 15 years. Uh there is also open space and public parks being proposed to improve public park areas each with at least four features such as enhanced plantings, public arts or sculptures, specialty paving, shaded elements, seating or interactive experiences. Uh there's uh transportation improvements that are part of this petition as well. Um improvements to access via Prosperity Church Road, Benfield Road, and Cardinal Point Road. Uh it also delivers on some capital improvements like bike lanes, sidewalks, storm drainage, curbon gutter, and also a roundabout at Prosperity and Benfield. Uh there is also 8ft planning strips and 8ft sidewalks along both major frontages. It does also extend Cardinal Point as a public street. uh that would be built to office and commercial standards and that would connect directly to the activity center just to the south. Um there are network streets A and B would both be public as well. Uh there are again bike lanes uh buffered bike lanes on Benfield Road and a 50ft pedestri 50-foot pedestrian zone uh at the main access with also a sidewalk connection to the CNIP greenway. There are design commitments and architectural commitments built into the proposal as well uh for those residential structures as well as some of the design and site layout. As mentioned, staff does recommend approval of this petition upon resolution of outstanding issues related to site design. Uh it is inconsistent with the policy map recommendation for neighborhood one. Uh but as it transitions out of that activity center uh and is immediately adjacent to it, it does provide direct access to those options for goods and services that are part of some of those goals of the 10-minute neighborhood. Uh it's also within the Prosperity Village CNIP area, which will improve uh Prosperity Church Road between Old Ridge and Benfield. Uh to improve curb gutter, sidewalks, storm drains, bicycle lanes, on street parking, as well as that uh installation of the roundabout at Prosperity Church Road and Prosperity Ridge Road. Again, there are workforce housing commitments uh and other aspects of the petition uh that staff do believe uh make it uh while inconsistent do make it a project that staff again is recommending approval of upon resolution of those outstanding issues. So with that, we'll turn it over to the petitioner as well as the community and we will take questions following both of those presentations. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Grant. Good evening, Mayor Prom, members of council, members of the zoning committee. Bridget Grant, land use consultant with Moran Van Allen. Pleased to be here this evening representing Wood Partners. I come before you with a number of petitions and this is undoubtedly one of the more difficult ones we've had to navigate. We appreciate staff support, but we know we have a little bit more work to do on this one. U the owner made the difficult decision to sell the property after 60 years. And though this does not come without its challenges, I think it's really important for us to clarify that with or without the resoning, the mobile home operations are set to shutter on May 29th of 2026. And this aligns with some of the communication that was shared by the seller in May of 2024. That said, I'm here tonight on behalf of the petitioner who's seeking to buy the site and who understands the magnitude of this change and is willing to work with the residents as part of this resoning on a transition plan over the next month or so. So, nonetheless, I wanted to give you a little bit of that background before I step into some of the basics we typically share with you during the public hearing. As Dave mentioned, this is a 19.49 acre site in Prosperity Village. It is directly adjacent to the activity center. And when you look on the map, you can see there's a strong mix of a range of zoning types in this area that really speaks to the range of commercial uses as well as residential uses and density. We are right on the edge of the activity center and it is not uncommon for areas like this to be considered for resoning because of their proximity to resources, amenities, schools, and other desirable services. So again, in terms of the timeline, in May of 2024, the property owner, not the petitioner, notified the mobile home residents that they intended to cease operations. The site was put on the market for sale, and Wood Partners went under contract and filed a resoning in October of 2024. In November of 2024, we sent out notices for the city's list for a community meeting. And in December of 2024, we had our community meeting and had about 21 attendees. There was a little bit of a pause in the process because we were working through the transportation analysis and confirming that we were meeting all of the requirements of the resoning process related to site plan changes and transportation. In April of 2025, council member Johnson was kind enough to host a follow-up community meeting specifically for the residents of Forest Park so we could try to provide some clarity about what was going on in the process and confirm what the seller was anticipating in terms of next steps. When you look at the proposed site plan, I think Dave did a pretty good job of hitting the highlights. You can see the site has turned, but our site is bound by Prosperity Church Road, Benfield Road, and does offer the extension of Cardinal Cardinal Point Drive through the site, which is something desirable when you're considering resoning is when we're extending our overall transportation network to provide relief. This gives you a little more detail and shows a little more of the open spaces. We are proposing up to 395 residential units. There's about 18 of those are town homes. The remainder are apartments. And we do have 25,000 square feet of retail, restaurant, and personal service uses. This is intended to align with the goal of community activity centers and supporting the idea that we're creating 10-minute walkable visions in proximity to our activity centers. So when you look at the resoning rationale and the plan benefits strictly in terms of land use, this is located adjacent to an activity center with good proximity to schools, parks, and services. As Dave mentioned, we're approximate to I485 within a four a fourth of a mile of the 52X bus stop. It's a proposed mix of residential uses that does provide a good transition between the activity center and the surrounding residential uses. It also increases the amount of housing availability in the area, provides an opportunity for additional retail services, and commits to a minimum of 5% of the multif family stacked offered at 80% AMI or below. I think it's again important to just close by saying that the petitioner and the property owner are committed to continue to work to ease this transition upon the sale of the mobile home park. And I know we have a lot of speakers signed up, so I'll go ahead and keep it short and I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank you, Miss Grant. Okay. Um, Yolanda, if you can come down to this podium here, as well as uh Yolanda Valentine, Alejandro, and Claudia Gomez. And then we also have, if you're choosing to speak, um, Lionel Chavez, Joshua Teague, Jennifer Karanza, Sonia Hernandez, and Mora Alberan. If you would like to speak, please come down to the podium because you're g we're all going to have 15 minutes in total. So, Mayor Pro Tim, my my wonder is do you need someone to tell them those rules in Spanish? Do where is the translator? Are you able to tell them that? I just did. You just did. Okay. They have it in their ear as well. Some of them do. Okay. The the four Spanish speaking ones. Okay. Good. Good. Okay. Mayor Mayor Prom just moment. Moment moment. The Teagues were they um speaking in um favor against Teague. They're speaking against is what I have. No, there's two. The two mad clerk Joshua Teague is against Seagull is for we're on we're on item number 15. Yeah, there are these. Yeah. So there three people after Grant to speak within the 10 minutes and a Teague there and one they weren't going to speak. Miss Grant, would the other three going to speak? Are the other three? No. All right. So, we're good. So, so all the names that I have read are speaking in opposition. We simply have four Spanish speaking individuals, but the rest are English speaking individuals. Miss uh Johnson, how many people have on headsets? 13. 13. 15. If you've if they've requested a headset and and they were available, they have them. Okay. So, they're quite a few people. Okay. All right. Um we will get started u with 15 minutes and Oh, come on. Foracch. The confid altern isoch. Gracias. Here, [Applause] I'll put this. Okay. There is 13 minutes left. Okay. See? Okay. foreign. [Music] fortolo. Gracias [Applause] [Music] to Jose. Thank you. sighting. foreign. Yes. [Applause] [Music] No, foros. [Applause] Thank you. Um, I just want to ask for your consideration. Uh, I've been living in the park almost 20 years. What's your name, sir? I'm sorry. My name is Joshua Teague. Thank you. I've been living in the park for 20 years. I've found a home there. I found neighbors that I consider friends and family. And when times were hard, I could turn to them. neighbors like my friend Rau and Aventio. And when I needed their help, they were there. I consider them family. I don't want to leave the park. I want to stay with my family. Please vote no on this. [Applause] Good afternoon, committee or council. Sorry. Uh, my name is Lionel Lana Chavez. I'm 24. I have lived in the Port Forest Park area for close to 15 years. I come here today to speak for my family and for my community, and I hope to gain your support to vote no on the resoning of the area. Rene, I want to give you a special thank you for responding to the emails and working on this since February. Um, we as a committee are not against development, but we are against displacement. Not only is this a neighborhood, it's a whole community. Some have lived decades in their homes, the majority having families and family members in the neighborhood, and all of us have invested tens of thousands of dollars into our homes. We are homeowners. We can't afford to just leave it all behind. And we can't move the homes either because of the age of the home or uh the additions we made to our to the homes and some because they are simply just older and have everything invested into their homes. Now uh at risk of losing everything. Nowhere in the Charlotte area will we find $500 affordable housing and apartments around the Forest Park area cost three times that just for a studio apartment for over over a year since being told that we may have to leave our homes. Uh we were kept in the dark being told that we would stay informed and that letters were being sent out. Yet we never received them and we have never given we were never given the option to do something about the reasonzoning. My mother and many of my neighbors are immigrants who work hard every day to provide for their families and now have something else to worry about besides being ripped away from their families. It feels unfair and unjust because we thought our representatives would protect us from situations like this. This place is my childhood. Uh, no other community is like ours. Help is given when it's needed. All we ask is to stay or at least give us options uh for our community um for all the time, money, and work that was put in into our community um and to also protect us from predatory buyers who want to take advantage of the situation. So once again, I ask the council to please support uh us and to say no. Um also um with the all the developments in the area um there's an increase in traffic and increase in crime. Um my sister lives in some apartments really close to where we live and um they have stolen her car before and it seems like every day the crime is just increasing. Um, also the land use, uh, right now I feel like what we've done to the area has been great. Um, and that'll be all. Thank you. [Applause] Thank you. Thank you very much. for any of the other uh individuals who had signed up to speak in opposition, you still have four minutes if you want to leverage that. So, if you've already if I've already called your name and you didn't speak, you do have four minutes if someone would like to utilize it now. You have to utilize it now, though. Okay. Okay. All right. with. Okay. Yes. Hello everybody. My name is Raul Ramirez. I live in Forest Park for about 20 years. Mayor, please. Hang on. Hang on. Uh, Mr. Ramirez, had you signed up? I I don't I don't see your name on the list. No. Um, I saw you say I just No, I'm sorry. I I may have misspoken, but only if you have signed up in opposition and I read those names a few times, then you could utilize the four minutes. But otherwise, we can't have you speak if you haven't signed up. Okay, that's not what we're doing. Hang on. Hang hang on. We We have conducted we have conducted this cordally and and through the rules with reasonable accommodations and we and we've said it a few times. So, okay, if you can't if you can't be civil and allow the process to continue, then we're going to have to ask you to leave and and have you removed. So, I hope that you will allow the process to continue because it's actually been very helpful. Okay. I understand. No problem. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. So So Miss Grant, you you can now come up and have your rebuttal. Thank you. And of course, you'll have two minutes for the rebuttal. Mayor Prom Council, my name is Carter Seagull. I work for Wood Partners. Um it's difficult to be here in front of a strong community like this. Um we're in the business for building communities and it's not often that we're we're in this position. Um typically we're um we're coming in in areas um where there will warehouses um as the city evolves uh as we build multif family. Um but um it's we're in the business to build communities and and I completely appreciate the the spirit and the um and emotion behind me. Um but that having been said, the city has changed a lot. Um the owners um that own this mobile home park have owned it since the 1960s and Charlotte has changed a lot since the 1960s. As someone mentioned earlier, this used to be farmland. Um, and now we have an interstate next door and it's become a critical part of Charlotte's growth corridor. Um, I can't be here and say that transition is not uh is easy. I I could fully appreciate that any transition, particularly if you've been in a home for 20 years or longer and you've raised your family there, any kind of transition is going to be difficult. Um, but what we can commit to today before council, before the community is that we'll do everything, we will work hard to try to make that transition reasonable. Um, the the owners of the park um, 30 seconds. They went out of their way, they made a notice, they made notice a a year ago um, and to give the residents as many as two two years to find a home. Appreciating the transition is difficult. Um, many folks would not have done that. I give them a lot of credit. The owners that credit during that time period. They've not increased rents. They've kept rents in this community below market. Uh, I think they deserve credit for that as well, for what it's worth. Um, but um, we're here um to to offer what we can to to ease this transition. It's all I can say. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you for uh allowing us to proceed with the process. We're going to open it up to the council for questions and u I have Miss Azir. No. Thank you. So this one is a difficult reasonzoning. Um so if I can bring uh Tisher up here. I have I have a few questions. Someone from Wood Partners if they could come up. How many residents are at this site currently residing? I I believe existing 60 uh homes. 60 homes. So, do you know how many residents are we talking about here? So, Wood Partners does not own the site. It's owned by a different family. And so as purchasers, they're not privy to the number of residents who live within that community. I think uh if you can provide us that information, that would be helpful in a follow-up report cuz we are talking about a major displacement here. So I I think that that would be important for me. Uh also some of the residents I heard were they shared that they were not given sufficient notice. Could you tell me about the process of providing a notice to our residents and what steps were followed to ensure all the residents were given proper notice? So, the notice was between the property owner and the residents, and it's our understanding that in May of 2024, they provided letters in both English and in Spanish, and the property manager delivered them to each of the residents. And I think several of the speakers acknowledged that they had received some letter of communication. There has not been any significant movement during that time other than that the plan hasn't changed to sell the property and hopefully close the operation of the mobile home park in 2026. So what was the timeline you said when that notice went out? May of 2024 with the sorry April April 2024 with the hope that providing two years I'm sorry May 20th excuse me May I'm looking at it May sorry with the hope that two years would help ease the transition and provide more time than is typically given in this type of situation. So May 2024 uh the notice will be um so they have till May 2026. That's correct. two years. Were there any uh relocation assistance being provided? That's part of what we're working on right now. Um this is something that we're going to look at a transition plan and resources that we can find to assist in that process. Yeah. Could you share that with us before the decision? Absolutely. Okay. Um I I appreciate all the residents for coming out. Um this is a difficult decision uh not just for me but I I can tell for many of our colleagues. Um and um I look forward to working with district council member uh Johnson as we make a decision on this next month. But I appreciate the work Councilwoman Johnson has done to engage with the community. I also appreciate Jessica and Robert Dawkins with ActionNC to ensure that residents were aware of the process that they had access to interpretation service. I appreciate the work that city clerk has done and our staff. Um, this shows that we are being equitable in our approach to engaging community. That's all I have. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Brown. Thank you so much, madam pro. I just want to make sure that I acknowledge um uh colleague Council Member Johnson and uh the work that she's done and follow her leadership, but the the the amount of community that has come out and the concern for displacement and whatever we can do to offset that. Of course, I my sentiments what council member Ashmeir has just said to the public as well with the community engagement um action and see Robert Dawkins and his team making sure that they led the community in the right steps and in the right direction. So, we care. We hear you. Um and we hope that uh we can definitely come to a valuable solution to support you and your families. Thank you. We will follow Council Member Johnson's lead as it is her district. Thank you, Miss Brown. Miss Molina. Um, thank you, Mayor Pro Tim. Um, so Oh, I got She has to be able to capture it. Oh, yeah. You got Oh, okay. So, you have an earpiece. Um, I do. I do. I have an earpiece. So, um, so I got to speak to English. I don't have the ability to tell you directly in Spanish. Um, so what I will say is thank you to all of the families that came out today. Um, I know that this is not a an easy thing to come before this council. Um, many of the families that came have been in the neighborhood for a very long time and I think we realize that. Um, this would be so much better if I could tell you in Spanish. I really want to tell you in Spanish. I can't I can't. No, cuz she got to be able to She got to be able to capture my words. She She has it now. I can. Oh. Oh. So fast process. Yeah, she can. She can do it now. Oh, okay. Okay. I mean, I hope that you will speak up and please speak to this because the process is very intimidating. Most people who come to this room here do not understand our process. This is not a decision tonight. This is a hearing and that something will happen. I hope you will please explain that and who these individuals are here as well too. That they represent citizens who were appointed and that we we pride ourselves in a very fair and open process. The petitioners going to be working with them and the residents as well too. You all have been through these decisions just like I have and I know how sensitive this is. So please articulate. Absolutely. Just before we pass it back over over to Miss Molina, Mr. Peacock, we've had simultaneous translation with the process with individuals who requested headsets. So that's that's been good. Yeah. Yeah. They've had So still think she's got great Spanish though. That's what I'm think. Yeah. So um the same person I like um I'm trying to figure out my words because I only speak English during the day people want to buy the the property the the present owner the people that have owned it for the last 60 years. So they're two different people. So in this case, it appears to me just to hear everything that is being explained to me right now, the people that have owned it for the last 60 years is the one selling it to that other person. And I do not know I don't know if that person that person is able to intact that that person can keep the trailer park there intact but there's no mean that there is not a way that we can help you our area. I am not able to help and I can be there. I can offer you my help. You know, you know, what the families are saying as I have done the whole process in the whole process it's it's very difficult. No, no, there's no places left for $500, right? There are so many. But there's two things going on right now. Displacement. I never knew it. There's displacement and then there's a petition. different things, but that doesn't mean that there's not a way to help the people who are existing and um and what the petitioner is doing. I and I have to say this, I don't know if denying the petition will stop the displacement. I think that's a very important statement to make. I don't know if there is with the denial of the petition stopping displacement. There's more questions to find out, but I do know that the petitioner has said that they're willing to help with any potential displacement, but I I think it's important to be honest in that way. Um, this is this is probably one of the most difficult petitions I've seen in a long time to have so many families that have been in one place for so very long. um and there's already been a decision to sell um and and a need to help so many families. So, what I know for sure is that these conversations are going to be ongoing. Tonight is not a decision. Um, I think the council member that's here to my left, um, is going to be heavily involved in the process in making sure that there is communication between both parties. Um, and finding out if there is a comfortable resolution here. Um, I feel confident that every council member that's sitting here which is is probably in the same place where this is equally as hard for them to listen to. It's equally as challenging to hear. Um, and it's it's like I said, I think it's something that we'll all be tuned into to see if there is a way to do both things at once if that is what moves forward. Like I said, this isn't a guarantee that this petition will even move forward or not. I think it's important to say that one thing is a petition where a new buyer is interested in doing something else and the person who currently owns the land has made a decision to sell and he is in charge of what is currently there and then there's a new petition that would still probably move forward if the sale were or if this petition were to go through. So, um I just look forward to staying connected with the council member for the district um to to make sure that we're up to date, that we're kept up to date on what the challenges are. Um that that's the best way I can put it because it's it's just it's this is hard and [Music] You know, people that have lived for the last 18 years, it's I know it's very hard. That's all I've got to say. Thank you, uh, Miss Mayfield. Thank you, Mr. Penn. I am not as versed on mobile homes. So, help me understand because some of the residents mention their home and what they've invested in it. So, what we're currently talking about is land that is owned by a company individual, but the actual mobile homes, the I'm renting a spot at the mobile home because they also mention a rent price. So I wanted clarification on that what how that works. Yeah, your your understanding is correct. So it's a one property owner. They have available spaces for units to be located there. So the folks that have their units there uh likely own those uh and they rent the space to locate them in uh on that property. Do we ever look at North Carolina general statute? So back in 21-22 there was House Bill 1110 that actually gave some clarification around specifically mobile home. It was specifically the mobile home park act and in basically it says enacts article 8 general assembly chapter 42 to be cited as the mobile home park act sets the scope of the article to apply to mobile homes only defined as a single family dwelling built on a permanent chassis designed for long-term residential occupancy and containing all the things electrical, plumbing, all of that. So with knowing that we have that legislative language which identifies mobile parks, if council were to move and say council did not support this particular petition request by white, what could be done with this land? because they own their building but they don't own the land. So help me understand what is the rights that the residents have so that we can have a fair conversation. Yeah, that's probably one I don't know if I would weigh too much into because I'm not an expert on that myself. I'm not familiar with the piece of legislation talked about. So I'd like to take a look at it. So let me pause right there to our city attorney. That's part of your question before as we move on with this hearing to get clarification on how Bill 1110 from 21-22 could be interpreted for this conversation. Okay, Mr. Pton. Okay. So, is that the question then? Is it going to be for followup? Okay. So, for the rest of the question and so the rest of the question is what could they do by right? Uh so the property currently I believe is zoned N1A, right? So it could be all uses under N1A without a resoning. So that'd be single family, duplex, triplex. Uh they could, you know, use compact development or conservation development to, you know, maybe get a few more additional lots uh than what could be allowed by right with just all uh you know, standard development u regulations. So, but without any kind of reasonzoning then Nwood A would really only allow those uses in the UDO, which again are those duplex, triplex, quadruplex in instances where that fourth unit is affordable. So whether we move at a later date when it's time for a decision to approve or deny, that still does not impact whether or not these units is going to stay on this land because the owner of the land had is in the process of selling that land and that new owner then has a opportunity to do something very different than what's currently there. That's correct. For clarification. Okay, Miss Grant, question for you because you mentioned which is our process. The letters went out in May of 2024, but it went to the property owner, not to the individual residents. It was the property owner's responsibility to send it to each of the units or you sent the notifications to each unit. As council member Molina articulated, I think it's important to note that there are almost two processes going on. One is a property owner has decided to sell their land and basically close their business. And so that just to make sure that we're on the same page for the specific question that I'm asking for the notification. Yes. Just for the notification to the residents. Did it go to the property owner or did it go directly to the residents? There are two different notifications. Okay. Okay. The May 2024 notification was a notification from the property owner directly to the residents that was not tied or affiliated to the resoning and therefore that's what went to the residents. Then there is a separate process for resoning and when we follow the resoning process we use the city mailing list and the resoning notifications go to the property owner. So, our notifications for this conversation of resoning and I wanted to clarify that because what was mentioned in your comments and in our discussion is the fact that the property owners sent information to the residents, but we did hear that some residents say they didn't receive. So, I want to make sure that we clarify those are two separate conversations. As far as you coming here tonight for in preparation for this hearing, you all did not send any notification. So there could be some residents that learned about it. As far as this evening, you're saying the owners had expressed that they sent notification directly to the residents to give at least a year's notice. To your understanding, because since you weren't a part of the prophetize, you don't know if it was done, but to your understanding, that was what was done. That's correct. I mean, I've seen the letter and I think it's important to note that when the owner was selling the property, they did not mention that it was contingent upon a reasonzoning. They basically indicated that they were closing the business, hope to sell, and intended to close operations in May of 2026 to allow 2 years. And so, I think there's a little bit of a gap in that the reasonzoning process is not necessarily tied to the communication shared with the residents in the mobile home park. So, two separate conversations, but what I was getting to is making sure that we had clarity on you all did not send notification to the current residents. You're saying that that came from the owners. That's correct. Of the property. And when we say 2 years notice, we're in 2025 now. Having this conversation for your client, what was if this were to move forward, what was the expectation of the property being vacated by? May of 2026. So we're having this hearing now may come up for decision before we end 2025. So what you all have expressed to the residents is that there's an expectation to vacate the land by May of 2025. And you mentioned that you've had some conversations regarding possible assistance with relocation. We are looking May of I want to clarify 2026. I know there's we're in 2025. It's a year later that they would be looking and yes, as part of the resoning package, we think it's an opportunity for us to use the resoning process to try to find a way to ease the transition and provide more services as part of the process. So for clarification so that I completely understand from tonight's conversation, I am specifically asking if the expectation for the property to be clear if this were to move move forward has been expressed to the residents that they would have until May of 2026 to vacate. That's correct. So that is why you mentioned two years um when the notification was sent. Thank you for the clarification. You're welcome. Thank you. Um I'm going to before I pass over Miss Johnson, I wanted to just make a couple comments uh myself. So, first and foremost, thank you all for coming out not only for tonight and sir, you can't speak from um you can't speak from the room. So, um thank you. So, thank you for for coming out tonight and not only for tonight, but I see that there was uh good participation in the community meetings as well. And so, um, thank you all for being engaged and paying attention, um, to what's going on in your community. A couple of couple of things that, um, I've been learning over the last few days is, you know, as as it was mentioned, they're two separate processes. and the land owner, the current land owner has provided notification back in May 2024 through the property manager that of their intention to sell the property and do something else. And so, in essence, giving a a 2-year window to allow people to um make certain decisions and and um prepare themselves. It sounds which which I think is admirable to do that, right? I I do think a two-year window is admirable to do that level of notification. Um, however, it sounds like many of these residents have lived in this particular neighborhood for decades and have invested in their uh mobile homes in a permanent way. Um perhaps and this is a question uh Miss Grant. So perhaps under the lens that they that there wouldn't potentially be a time where the land would be sold. Has there been any conversation around, you know, we're talking about what we've heard tonight from residents is tens of thousands of dollars being invested in in their mobile homes. any conversation at the community meeting or um individually around was there any misunderstanding that this was a a rent effectively a rental um situation? I appreciate the question. I think it's difficult for me to speak to the terms of individual leases with the people who are leasing the lot that they move their mobile home to. And so it's unfortunate in any situation when you don't own the land, you are essentially subject to the conditions of your lease. And if there's a desire to terminate the lease or change the conditions, I think that's what the property owner has the right to do. But I can't really speak to the specifics of the lease. Again, I think that the the family has owned the property for over 60 years and they made the choice to divest because it's sort of an outlier in their overall business portfolio. And so for them it was for the time to close that particular business. I'm not sure about the individual leases and what that meant in terms of the individual investments. Yeah. And go ahead. I'll speak. It's my understanding that they're they're 30-day um leases. Um and so I think everyone has an existing lease is my understanding with their 30-day leases. Okay. Rolling 30-day leases. Okay. Because my question was going to be around um potentially looking at at the leases, you know, from a landlord um res residential uh lens to ensure that the lease the the language was proper in the lease. Um, so maybe we can just underscore that to to make doubly sure that that was clear because there's it it sounds like just been tremendous investment um in in property that may potentially have been under a 30day uh notification. It's just um it's a diff that's a difficult situation. um as as Miss Molina um stated a difficult situation. U the other the other piece that I want to just be clear of is the current owner has the right to sell his land of course. Um however the connection with the land owner and this particular petition there's is there any connection? It sounds like there's no connection. If this petition, if this petitioner were to withdraw the petition or if the council were to decline the petition, the current land owner would proceed to move forward as they have indicated back in May 2024. Is is that is that accurate? Yeah, I would add up to speak for um We don't want to speak for that. Yeah, it's it's my understanding that again they've owned this for a long time. It's the family's gotten older. It's an old property. Um um what I've been told is it's very difficult to get um a mobile home park like this insured these days. So the insurance has been difficult to get full coverage. Um and so that among other reasons, they're just kind of tired of owning and operating a mobile home park, frankly. Um and so they made that decision to move on. They contacted us. Um we've been in Charlotte for a long time. um and uh been before this council many times on resonings and so we um they trusted that we would be a good steward to go through and and trusted we could we could build a quality development on the property but we have it under contract they are not part of this resoning there um so they're totally separate okay that makes sense my my concern is um you know there there are other mobile homes throughout the city other mobile home neighborhoods um or parks throughout the city of Charlotte um even uh one or two in District 1. And um my concern is that this might be one of the first times in in recent history that we're dealing with this, but again, as you actually stated in your comments, you know, the city is ever changing, growing rapidly. we may this situation may come up again and so Mr. Pton and just for staff, I I think we need to be able to have a point of view of some type of outlook um from a um from a um prescriptive perspective of how many of these other um neighborhoods and parks are out there and how much potential displacement can occur. could we somehow get in front of it from a policy perspective and wrap wraparound services? Um, I also commend the the landlord, the current landlord for offering displacement services. That was also thoughtful. I I hope that that can happen, Miss Johnson, as early as possible. um you know um given that the notification went out in in May 2024 again it sounds like regardless of this petition there will be some level of change on this property um based on the current property owner and so I I just want to make sure that we are uh doing as much as we can do to mitigate um negative impact um from that perspective. So, we're in we're in July. I mean, I'm sorry, we're in wishful thinking. We're we're in June and then we come back in August. And so, you know, that you're in the eighth month of the of the year. Just want to make sure, you know, the holidays can come around very quickly and then we find ourselves at May, right? Um, and so I just want to make sure that work is getting done. And I know we're about to go on a break for council, but I don't want the work to stop or pause throughout the summer recess. I think this is a great opportunity for us to use the next two to three weeks to reconvene our team with the residents to come up with some type of package and begin to look at options. Okay. I do have a comment. And Miss Johnson, do you want to go last? Yeah, she wants to go last. All right. So, um Okay. Um Okay. that that that's those were the the the most pressing um questions that I had. Again, I I just want to underscore that this is a this is a really unfortunate situation because they're they're two separate processes going on and they're not tethered to each other. However, they have impact on one another, right? And so that's the real that's the real rub of it. um is that these are you can be untethered but there's still there will still be impact um at some level and so I just I I recommend all the residents to stay engaged over the summer months of course work with Miss Johnson we'll continue to get updates on this um over our break but please stay engaged and and stay attuned to what's going on because I think this can happen very quickly. Very quickly. Well, I'll turn it over to Mr. Driggs. Thank you, Mayor Prom. Um, this is difficult for us because it runs against what we're trying to accomplish in terms of preserving affordable housing and allowing people uh to stay where they are. But we need to be clear, we do not have the authority as a body to prevent the landowner. So we we can't we could deny this petition, but that doesn't we can't stop the landowner from exercising the rights of the landowner uh as an landowner. They have they have rights under the law and we don't have the authority to countermand them. So what we're hoping for is that uh the exercise of those rights can be aligned better with our priority in terms of housing and protecting people. Uh, at the same time, the zoning itself, and I think the point has been made, but just to be very clear, whether or not this resoning is approved, you're on a schedule that was announced by the owner to the residents last year saying that in two years time, they intend to do something. Now, at as part of that, they have applied for or a potential new owner has applied for this reasonzoning that doesn't change the intention of the owner to sell the property. So that's your issue. Your issue is that last year you were told the owner intends to dispose of this property and uh we have to consider the the reasoning according to our rules for land use and u and my point is uh whether or not we approve it the timeline that was announced to you before is not something that's within our control. I did have one question uh I think for the attorney and that is if or actually maybe for Mr. patent. These are so-called mobile homes. Can they actually be relocated or maybe petitioner? I can answer that too. I've done some Well, let's find out. Okay. It's my understanding. I think it's personal property. Uh mobile homes are the personal their personal property. I think they're just renting the pad. So, but they can they be relocated? Can they be relocated? I I I don't know the age of the mobile homes, honestly. Uh, many are probably too old to be safely transported on on the roads, but I don't know the ages of all different. It's a it's an old mobile home park. So, I'm sure some of those buildings maybe are, you know, rusted out in the bottom. I'm not sure. So, so I'm I'm just curious about the possibility that in the course of this events, property of the people in the room is just demolished. Mhm. Mhm. And and it seems to me there ought to be some law around that protecting their ownership interest. So I'll be curious to learn more about that. I don't think we're going to resolve it tonight, but uh uh Miss Johnson, I look forward to hearing from you as you continue to work on this. Thank you, Mr. Driggs. I I will say Miss Mayfield already mentioned that there is a general statute um that is um addresses protections for mobile home owners with respect to um landlords and and there's a commission that is um set up to resolve disputes and we really have not dug deep into that because of course the city is outside that process. That's the private um contractual process between the mobile home owners and the landlord. But since Miss Mayfield did bring it up, I think that it's um something that the mobile home owners should be aware of that there is a bill that speaks to um their protections. So, I think that was my point though about the separation between the two-year timeline and the owner announcing the intention to sell and the reasoning. Uh it may be that you have rights that are not within our authority uh and that you might need to get legal advice according to that law, but that would not be for us. Um and so uh I'm I'm looking forward with interest to learning more about things like that. But uh uh the reason we're squirming here is because uh we don't like to see this kind of thing happen. And yet, uh, it's not up to us. Yeah, Mr. Driggs, I think that's a a a great delineation in that, you know, we're we're speaking about this particular petition this evening. However, you may have rights um that are outside of our purview and I would encourage you to speak to your state legislation representatives about those rights uh because we can influence those uh from a local level and and we're not fully scrubbed in on the inner workings of of those as well. So I would definitely encourage you to um interface and engage with your general assembly representation as well. I have it Miss Molina and then I believe we're going Molina and then Miss Ashmir. Um thank you u Madame Mayor Pro Tim and just for a quick followup um again a lot has been said um and and people like us. What are your rights? We have city that are in charge of if there is a way to What are your rights? that's representing the petitioner. I want to make sure that I'm clear and that person the petitioner who is the person who's purchasing the land. They're willing to in whatever ways that they can help the residents that are living in the park right now. Is that correct? That's correct. Yeah, that's what we're here committing to. Yes. Okay. And and they're willing to work through this process with those residents, right? That's correct. Okay. So, I think you know like need some help with that. I don't I don't know. I'm just asking to see what what that means like are they willing to help in the case that there is potential displacement right and and to make sure that the people who have come have a good grasp on what these laws are that we're referring to because you know to say oh there is another law I I realize how difficult that is to sometimes just to know that there is a a local government and a county government then a state government and then to understand what we all do and what those differences are sometimes that can be a very difficult you know process so I to make it as least confusing as possible you know there's a number of of people that can be in place to make sure as best as we can that some of those things are explained uh to make sure that no matter what is happening here your protections are you know in the forefront. So, um, I'll say that and that that's just my followup cuz I I know I heard that, but I just wanted to make sure that I was clear and that the petitioner is willing to assist in that process as well. Okay, that's all I have. Okay. Well, we will go to Miss Ameir and then close it out with Miss Johnson. Thank you. It's great to see my colleagues asking some tough questions. Uh there were some questions around personal property protection that uh council member Driggs raised. I think that is important here and we need to do more work in that space. So uh if we can get some answers about that uh Miss Haggler Gray about personal property protection. I know that's not within our perview and there is a house bill on that but if you could just provide us some uh references to that that would be Yeah. And I and it we'll have to check further because it was filed. It was in a previous session. We'll have to make sure that it actually did pass. But there but there were the the general assembly was considering those protections. U because what I worry about here is we heard from our residents some of them have invested over $90,000. So to Mr. Drake's point, if some of these units are not movable where they are fixed, I mean, this is hundreds of thousands of dollars of losses. I mean, that is unimaginable. So, we just need more information on this. uh even by August uh I don't know if we can get all this information in terms of personal pro property protections how many units are going to be able to move uh to a different site what are the alternatives I know you are working on the package to give us uh that information about what the reallocation assistance will look like um and also if you could give us information on how old is the newest lease Okay, because I think that is very relevant in this case. Let's say if the lease was just started back in 2023 and a year later they got a notice then it certainly plays an important part. Um so I don't know if there are any protections in the bill that states hey if the lease is new uh there might be additional protections but certainly we need to do more home homework here. Um, but I I look forward to hearing some of this information from getting some information from Bridgen as well as our attorney's office. Thank you. Okay, Mr. Johnson. Thank you to my colleagues, but thank you most of all to the residents who showed the courage to come out and advocate for yourselves. Um, I know this is difficult for everyone, and I want you to to know that we hear you. you hear the compassion for this situation from all of my colleagues. It's challenging. It's extra challenging because you all many of you own your unit. But as we've learned that the units are considered personal property, so hopefully that new bill um there might be some extra protections. But when I learned about this petition in late 2024, one of the first things I did was speak to the city attorney. I've done the well and and I walked the the com the mobile home park and I gave my cards to a couple people. I left it at the store. I wanted you all to reach out to me. There were a few people that reached out. One young man, and I won't say his name, but one young man was very helpful in getting some residents together. So, I did have a community meeting. The city attorney was at that meeting. We had planning staff. We had the developer at that meeting. So, I want to make sure that we communicate. These are things that I say all the time. This would be an opportunity uh Mr. Pton for that zoning sign to have a barcode and be translated in Spanish. I've said that before. So, this is the reason why outreach and communication and accessibility is so important. Um I do have a question for city staff. This petition is inconsistent with the 2040 policy map, but yet it's recommended by the staff. Can you elaborate on that some, please? Yeah, sure. We did take a look at surrounding land uses. Uh we also took a look at uh the existing activity center, the road network that was being proposed. Uh you know, we do acknowledge that we've got some conflicting goals. We've got the goal of preserving housing. Uh we also have the goal of 10-minute neighborhoods and providing uh you know density in places that make sense and have goods and services access and infrastructure and those types of things. So as we looked at it, you know, our evaluation was strictly from the proposal of the project uh and what they were proposing in conjunction with the activity center and again the uses that were surrounding it immediately to the north and on the other side of prosperity uh and saw that it did provide compatibility. It did provide a range of mix of uses. It provided uh connections to that activity center where folks if the property was uh redeveloped would you know live in proximity to those. So uh that was our evaluation of it uh against the policy map even though it was inconsistent. Uh but again we do acknowledge there are some conflicting goals between uh you know both that that preservation uh of affordable housing and establishing tenant neighborhoods and again providing some of that density and housing options in places where we've got existing infrastructure uh and existing access to those goods and services. Okay. Thank you. So there have been questions about the notice. I I would say that the owner gave the notice. Some the residents acknowledged that they received information in May 2024. Um there was a public meeting I think in November. Um I had a meeting. The issue is affordability in the city. Where do people go to to that where they can pay $500 a month? And these residents have taken the extra steps to protect themselves in purchasing a mobile home. This happens all throughout our city. So I want and this is a bigger issue for this council and the same energy and this compassion that we have in protecting individuals. We need to look at this from a policy perspectives. Developers are developing redeveloping u hotels and motel where individuals are staying. There's low-income units. There's mobile homes. This is not the first one. There was one on Statesville that was just developed. So until we as a council actually walk our talk and and really put some things in place to protect residents like this, this is going to continue to happen in this city. So I look forward to continuing to work with council to change policies um because as as the the uh representative said, this this seller is intent on selling this property. They've been very clear. You all have to you all have to understand that the seller has said that this mobile home park will terminate in May 2026. So if we if we deny this one, deny the next one, we cannot prohibit this seller from from selling. So what we as a council need to know is that our decisions affect folks like this and we really have to to figure out what we're going to do. I talk about it all the time. Individuals on fixed incomes. I met a lady who who receives $1,000 a month. Her her rent is $1,800 a month. Individuals on social security, SSI, we talk about the I talk about this all of the time. So, this is a problem in the city. Um, it's not for a zoning meeting. I know that it's a policy issue. So, we have to do something as council members. But again, I thank you all for coming out. Um, and what we need to do as a council is is figure out some what the next steps are for you all. So, thank you so much for coming out. Much gracias. Motion to close. Second. Okay. Motion to close public hearing and second. All in favor raise hands. Any oppose? That's unanimous. Thank you all so much for coming out. For those of you who do have the headsets, if you can put them back in the bag and someone will be receiving them up and council members, if you all could put your headsets back in a bag, Miss Ariel will come over and collect them. There are wipes if you would like to to sanitize. Thank you. We'll just glasses. Thank you. We're just glasses. Bye-bye. Hi. Bye-bye. just the same happens every day. Okay, we'll take a just a moment to transition and then we we will get started with agenda item number 16. As you all leave, can you do try to leave quietly, please? Whatever. Thank you. Stand up. Okay. So, we will move on to agenda item number 16, petition number 2024112, my Dream Key partners. The location is approximately 4.4 acres on the east side of Batty's Ford, south of Slater Road and north of Cindy Lane and District 2, Mr. Graham's district. The current zoning is N1B. proposed zoning is into staff recommends approval of this petition. Upon resolution of outstanding issues related to site and building design after staff's presentation uh we will have uh once again Miss Grant uh to join us as well as we have and they and she will have 10 minutes and then we have William Liy um who will als who will speak in opposition. He will have 10 minutes and then Miss Grant once again will have two minutes for a rebuttal. Thank you. Thank you. Petition 2024-112 is approximately 4.4 acres located on the east side of Batty's Ford Road, south of Slater Road and north of Cindy Lane. Site is developed with one single family home currently and surrounded by institutional uses as well as some single family residential. Current zoning is N1B. Proposed zoning is N2A CD. The 2040 policy map recommends the neighborhood one place type. Oh, sorry. The proposal would allow for a community of 40 multif family attached residential dwellings in buildings uh of no more than six units. Commits to a workforce housing program for a minimum of 30% of the total number of units for a period of 30 years at 80% or less of the area median income. A class C landscape yard will be located along the northern, eastern, and southern property boundaries. The open space, tree save, and storm water detention areas would be in the eastern corner of the site. There is a large or 70ft natural gas easement along the northern property boundary that would be maintained. Access will be provided uh by constructing the fourth leg of the intersection of Batty's Ford Road and Caps Hill Mine Road and a public street network with an east west street as well as a north south street will provide access to units. Uh the units will be in two building areas that would be bisected by that north south public street and an 8oot planning strip and 12oot you multi-use path will be located along the site's Batty's road uh frontage. Staff recommends approval of this petition upon resolution of outstanding issues related to site and building design. Petition is inconsistent with the policy map recommendation for neighborhood one place type. However, the proposal uh the proposed multif family attached dwellings would provide an additional housing option and a housing gap. The petition commits to providing a workforce housing program for 30% of the units for a period of 30 years at 80% AMI. The site is within a quarter mile of a commercial node at Batty's Ford Road and Cindy Lane that includes retail service and institutional uses. Um, also would be improvements to the intersection of Batty's Ford Road and Capsill Mine Road. And I'll take any questions following comments from the petitioner and the community. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Grant. Good evening, Mayor Pro. Starting route to 9700 Midworth Avenue. Sorry, it's happened to me before. Good evening, Mayor Prom, members of council, members of the zoning committee, Bridget Grant, Langie's consultant with Moren Van Allen. It's a pleasure to be here tonight on behalf of Dream Key Partners. Uh, we appreciate staff support on this petition. I believe David Howard and the pastor stopped by prior to the meeting to confirm their support of this petition. Staff did a great job. So, I'm just going to highlight some of the basics. The site's just under 4 acres located on the east side of Batty's Ford Road across from the McCory YMCA. Um, it's zoned N1B and the proposed zoning is N2A to allow development of the site with a residential multifamily community to provide affordable housing opportunities. As you can see, the site recommendation um place of recommendation is N1. It's a little bit odd though because when you look at the surrounding context, it's not surrounded by N1. It's surrounded by churches, schools, office uses, and the YMCA. So, it's a little misleading when you look at the context. And in fact, I think you'd find that this proposed use and density is probably appropriate in this location, providing access to those uses. This is a high level view of our site plan. It shows that our access point is off of Batty's Ford Road. We have a 12-oot multi-use path and an 8ft planning strip along the front of our site. One of the city's goals is always about connectivity. And so you can see running sort of plan north to south, we've got a new public road that will allow future developments to connect to this and will provide other access that will get you out to a proposed traffic signal that will be at the access point with this development. Um there's a affordability commitment to affordable housing and with that I'm happy to answer any questions. I'm here with Julie Porter and she'll probably handle the rebuttal for us. All right. Thank you and welcome Miss Porter. So Mr. Lacy, if you want like to come down. I have a question. You want to do it after him? Good evening. I'm William Lizy. I'm the current owner of parcel 04108123 which uh uh property that's under petition uh meets us at the corner off the gas easement and uh 1932 Slater Road where my wife and my family reside um in the area we Sorry we're a little jetlagged. We got here a couple hours ago, so try to be okay with this. But um yeah, so we we bought the property under the guys that the 2040 map would uh keep the surrounding adjoining properties single family. Obviously, we have the school near next door. Um and I believe they had some concerns with this as well. Um, I'm sure Councilman Graham, who's not here today, had their concerns in written form if y'all didn't receive those as well. But, uh, their issue was safety and traffic, which obviously is ours and our surroundings, single family, uh, housing neighbors. Uh, so we've lived there for 5 years now. The area is kind of undeveloped. the more single family housing that came in, the better uh the security and lives of the neighborhood and community got. And I feel like, sorry, I'm a little nervous talking. Okay. But anyway, so the area got a lot nicer the past 5 years with the influx of single family. So that's kind of what we wanted to keep it to because people who own property, they take care of it, you know, they respect it, they look out for their neighbors. And I feel like bringing in a 40 unit multifamily dwelling where it's kind of hidden in the woods, has no amenities, uh, you know, uh, no parks, no transportation's kind of at a minimum area. So, I just feel like the residents who live there, they won't take care of the property as well as if they owned it as in a single family uh occupation and also uh they have nothing to do. So, what are they going to do? Um and I feel like that'll kind of just flip the improvement of the community and neighborhood which has we have seen increase over the past 5 years. So, flip it right on its head and bring it back to the crime, the trespassing, the stealing, uh, and all that that we saw in the past 5 years that's been approved upon by the single family zoning in the area. So, that's what I'm here today uh to help protect my neighbors and I's uh, property and, you know, our livelihoods and our future goals for our regional purchase within this neighborhood. uh it's to vote no on this and help us out and keep the 2040 and the visions we had of our property intact and not change that on us. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Miss Porter, if you would like to come up, you'll have two minutes for your rebuttal. Mayor Prom, Council representatives. Uh first of all, I just want to thank you all for your support of drinky partners and affordable h housing more generally. Um we've loved this property. Um it's right across from Aroy um MCA and really feel like it will um enhance the area. Um this is going to be affordable housing, but it's going to be home ownership. Um, so it's going to be for people who are 80% of area median income and under. It will be a town home development. Um, and I just wanted to make sure that you knew that we were able to resolve kind of the issue um that the school next door had with the connection between our property and their property so that they their residents or their actually their customers parents um could actually get to the stoplight that we're we're helping to um make sure that it's all connected. Okay. Excellent. Happy to take any questions. Okay. Thank you. Um I have Miss Mayfield. Thank you. Miss Porter, you actually address the question I was going to ask with Miss Grant. Have you submitted the updated plan to staff yet that shows that connection? That's due on Thursday after public hearing. So that's when it will get submitted. All the questions I have. Move to close the hearing. Okay. Second. Thank you. I just wanted to make the comment that um this is a this is a great area um especially the McCory while as a historic um YMCA in our in our community. And so having um affordable for sale housing uh to really help workforce uh to provide workforce housing for those individuals who are working um to be able to access good safe affordable housing is uh certainly Miss Porter you know something that I'm passionate about many of my colleagues are and I'm happy to see um some kind of format of affordable forcell continue to happen in our city. And with that, is there a motion to close public hearing? Oh, I have that. I do have the first and second. Um, all in favor, please raise hands. Any oppose? That's unanimous. Thank you. We'll move on to um agenda item number 17, petition number 2025 013 by True Homes. The location is approximately 8.43 43 acres located along the north and south side of Mintworth Avenue west of Margaret Wallace Road and east of Walong Drive in district 5, Miss Molina's district. The current zoning is NS and N2B. Proposed zoning is BCD. staff does not recommend approval of this petition in its current form and because staff does not recommend um this petition after staff's presentation and they will receive um as as much time as they want but 10 minutes and the opposition um who who is staffed so Ian and Joel on South David Ian and and sorry you you two are here. All right. If you can make your way to the to the um podium and after staff's presentation, you will have 10 minutes. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Mayor Prom. 2025013. It's 8.43 acres off of uh Mintworth Avenue, uh west of Margaret Wallace and east of Wyong Drive. Uh the current zoning is neighborhood services and N2B. Uh you can see the N2B is just that small orange portion there uh kind of on the bottom right of the project boundary. Uh the 2040 policy map does recommend the commercial place type mainly based off that NS zoning uh that was in place uh previously or currently. Uh the proposal for this project is to allow up to uh 64 multif family attached dwellings under the N2B district. Uh they do have some transportation provisions with uh multiple access points to the site from Mintworth Avenue, Mintworth Links Lane and Yong Drive. They would also extend the current left turn lane on Margaret Wallace uh to 100 ft. They would provide a 10- foot wide class C landscape yard along the western boundary of the site. also provide an 8ft planting strip and 8ft sidewalk along Margaret Wallace Road and include bicycle facilities that would be constructed uh by locating the curb and gutter 28 ft from the center line center line of Wong Drive. Uh the site is served by the cat's 52X bus route and the petitioner will coordinate with cats on any of those bus stop improvements. It is directly adjacent to as well uh just to the north a commercial center uh with a grocery store and some other commercial uses. Uh staff does recommend or excuse me does not recommend approval of this petition in its current form. No real concerns with the type of project that's being proposed and the residential component. Uh just some site design features and some transportation items uh that need to be resolved and worked through as we continue through the process. Uh but again, no overall significant concerns with the proposal, just a lot of details and items that need to be cleaned up uh before staff can re-evaluate our recommendation. Uh but from there we will turn it over to the petitioner and we will take any questions following their presentation. Thank you. Okay, Mr. Anderson and Mr. Madden, you have 10 minutes in aggregate. Thank you. Thank you. Um I'm Joel Madden with True Homes. Mayor Pro Tim Council, thank you for for having us here tonight. Um as as staff mentioned, um um we're working through some minor issues with staff. We've been in in close communication with um really three departments, planning, transportation, and parks and wreck. and we feel like we've got all of those agreed to in principle. So, we'll be submitting an updated plan that we believe addresses all of those issues um uh by Wednesday of this week. Um and then just wanted to also add we held a community meeting uh did not have any in attendance in that meeting. That was an in-person meeting uh at a nearby church. So, we're going to um hold another meeting in mid July. I think we're targeting July the 9th. We're going to do that one online just in case that promotes additional uh neighborhood involvement. So, uh, other than that, we'd be glad to try to answer any questions you might have. Okay. Staff, did you have since you're in opposition, are you okay? Yep, we're good. Thank you. Okay, great. Um, Miss Molina, thank you, Mayor Pro Tim. Um, so I'm I'm I'm um I actually went to that meeting and I couldn't find it. Uh, you're the one. So, somebody the one and I am the council member. One of the people in the church said they saw someone and directed them across the street. Directed me across the street and I I couldn't find it. So if I couldn't find it, I know if a resident was interested, they couldn't find it. So that's first things first. Um and uh secondly, I I feel uncomfortable. So again, what I do as an elected representative for this 125,000 plus district of human beings is I look at what our policy says we can and can't do and then I connect with the residents and you're in in this case and I'm talking fundamentally just from what I would imagine to be a resident's perspective. This right now is neighborhood services. So there is a potential for in its current form there to be somewhere they could shop, someplace they could go, someplace where they would be able to buy stuff. And now we're going to take that away and put more houses with less places for them to go and buy stuff and shop. And we haven't talked to any neighbors to see how they feel about that, right? because that is a that's an important challenge that we have to face as we continue to have you know people who want to come and live in our city um in in how how we how we look at this. We have a unified development ordinance that was developed and has been adopted as policy and those policy maps are right now they should not even need our implementation when we're saying that we want to change the unified development ordinance and its application from where it currently stands. I feel like we need to have a reason to do so because there's already a policy that has guidance for what can and cannot be done. So, what you're asking for is an exception to the current policy to change something that is currently existing and fitting for the residents that live there to put more residents there. Right? And so I feel uncomfortable as the representative even considering that until I've talked to some level of, you know, um some level of representation of the people this decision could affect to see if this is something that they would be um you know in agreement with. Again, this isn't um because again the the the policy map is as it as it should be, right? So like it was an extreme undertaking for u the council of that time that made the decision to go forward to say we're creating community area plans and policy maps that are already guiding what we see as far as the people we intend to attract to this city and when we say hey you know what we're going to create increased density or hey we're going to change what the scope of what that alignment is then I think when we're going beyond what the rules already say. I I just I feel real compelled to say we have to make sure that there's consensus. So, uh staff, I hope that you know, first I know that you're adhering to what you see could be uh potentially for that area, but I think we have a responsibility if we're going beyond what the policy states because I'm not speaking out of alignment with what the policy states. I'm not saying that we can't create density, but based on what you know, neighborhood properties that are looking to be reszoned, particularly along Mintworth, uh on the south side of Midworth is two office buildings and what was a proposed Walgreens and on the other side is one office and two retail spaces, one of which was constructed uh and one that that didn't come to fruition. So, uh, the main entitlements that were still remaining were primarily office uses and a pharmacy that, uh, was doesn't look like it was ever, uh, built or ever came to fruition, but one of the retail out parcels was constructed, uh, and the rest remaining was primarily office uses. Okay. Um, so I again I I look forward to continuing I I look forward to an actual meeting where there's some participation from the residents that a decision that says we would take away the possibility for there actually be businesses create jobs, right? Inevitably, a business creates a job. A business creates a place where you can shop. A business does so many different things and it's already zoned for business. And so to say we're going to take it to residential, we got to have some kind of feedback that says that's, you know, and for full transparency, I don't live close enough to the site. But if I leave my house, make one left, go down the street, I shop at that Harris ter perspective. And I got two options. I can go to Food Line or go down the street to Harris ter. And sometimes when I want to groovy Harris to dealer, I go to my colleague in district one. and I go to her little hers is hers be lit uh on South Boulevard, but you know u that that's when I feel like taking a drive, but if I need ketchup and it's like, you know, 6:00 and I'm cooking, I'm probably going to go to Food Line or that Harris ter, right? Um so I I know the area very well. I've lived there for 16 years. Um so yeah, I just look forward to continued cons, you know, discussion. Yes, ma'am. Do you have a recommendation for an online meeting versus another in-person meeting? Do you have a preference as it relates to that? I I honestly I make time to be present as often as I possibly can. And I actually did go to the inerson meeting. And like I said, I I couldn't find it. So, um I I don't have a preference. I just do what it would take to get as many neighborhood, you know, neighbors to participate as possible. Sometimes we're working with residents that are elderly and so I and again I don't know the demographics and that's a challenge right um if we have elderly neighbors then sometimes the online is a little bit more accessible or not right um you know it's just kind of hit or miss but you know I'll I'll talk to our staff to see what type of connections that we have with the area to see if we can maybe help you reach out to some of the people that live, you know, within that area. We we would appreciate that collaboration. Absolutely. And and we can go either way with that. We you know, we tried to do it in person just because I always believe face to face is better if you can accommodate that, but also understand the the accessibility and things like that. So, absolutely certainly open to that. Um to your points, yeah, this this was a part of a reasonzoning that was done originally um a number of years ago. You're familiar with the area, of course, with the the Harris ter heater and the pizza place, which is fantastic. and and there is some shopping there and this for whatever reason has sat dormant for for quite some time. So that's why the property owner um reached out to us and said hey would y'all consider something here because it hasn't taken root from a from a neighborhood traditional neighborhood services type um of of arrangement um here to for so um yeah we we'd love to chat more with you if you'd like to any strategies you might have on on getting some public involvement we'd certainly be open to that. Um we're excited about the project. We think it would bring a lot to the community and um feel like we bring a a quality quality home to the area. But certainly understand your concerns and again my apologies for the the confusion it was with that church kind of split on us opposite sides of the road. It I was confused when I got there too to try to figure out where we were supposed to go. So yeah. Yeah, I was I like I said there was a really nice lady who came out to greet me and she was like, "Well, try across the street." And then I went across the street and I was like wandering looking like I was lost. Um, we were waiting for somebody to walk in after we heard that and then we sent somebody outside and I think by then you probably gave up on us. Yeah. I was like, "Okay, this there's probably not a meeting happening or something or I called staff." Actually, I called the person who helps me. I'm like, "I think I'm in the wrong place." Uh, so yeah. Sorry. We'll figure it out much for that. Absolutely. Yep. Thank you so much. That's all I have. Mayor Proton move to close the hearing. Thank you. All right. I have a motion and second to close public hearing. All in favor raise hands. Any oppose? That's unanimous. Thank you for for coming out. And we will move on to agenda item number 18, petition number 2025 020 by Sage Investment Group. The location is approximately 2.56 acres located south of Tuckiji Road east of Queen City Drive and west of I 85 and district 3, Miss Brown's district. The current zoning is CG NML1. Proposed zoning is N2CD. Staff recommends approval of this petition upon resolution of requested technical revisions. And there is no uh one signed up city clerk to speak to this one. So we will just have staff's presentation. Thank you. Thank you. Petition 2025-020 is just over 2 and a half acres located south of Tuckiji Road, east of Queen City Drive and west of I 85. It's currently developed with a motel and restaurant and currently zoned CG and ML1 with a proposed zoning of N2C CD. The 2040 policy map recommends the manufacturing and logistics place type The proposal is to adaptively reuse the existing motel to create up to 125 residential units as well as to maintain the restaurant use as a neighborhood commercial establishment. No new structures would be allowed. All redevelopment will be occurring within the existing building footprints. Uh maintaining existing site infrastructure including surface parking. minor exterior repairs and material updates would occur to meet current code and maintenance needs. There's a coordinated anti-displacement strategy to be implemented in partnership with crisis assistance ministry which would include a minimum 90-day notice to all existing tenants. Individual rehousing plans developed and tracked weekly coordination meetings to monitor progress as well as property closure contingent on successful rehousing of all residents. Staff recommends approval of the petition upon resolution of requested technical revisions. It is inconsistent with the policy map recommendation for the manufacturing and logistics place type. However, would convert the ex existing extended stay motel into up to 125 studio apartments supporting UDO UDO goals related to adaptive reuse, sustainability, and infill development. The proposed N2C zoning district is intended to accommodate a range of moderate intensity residential housing types, including multif family stack dwellings, which aligns with the petition's proposed use. Though inconsistent with the policy map, the proposed residential use is compatible with nearby zoning and land use patterns, which include residential, commercial, office, and institutional districts. And the reuse of the existing building avoids additional impervious surface preserves site infrastructure consistent with the UDO goals for fiscally and environmentally responsible development. And with no commissioner, I'll take any questions. Thank you. Um question, Mr. Peacock, can you talk about um this wasn't related to um to the it wasn't mentioned earlier, but you talked about the coordinated anti-displacement strategy. You heard the original petition tonight about the displacement of a lot of people in mobile homes. Is there anything staff that we can learn from what you're recommending here that petition? Is that possible to follow that? I know that's not what you spoke to earlier, but it's the first thing I'm picking up on here. Minimum 90-day notice to all existing tenants. Individual rehousing plans developed and tracked. Weekly coordination meetings to monitor progress. Property closure contingent on successful rehousing of all residents. and you're you're doing it in coordination with crisis assistance. Yeah, this is I I think what we learned from going through this process with some of these uh previous hotel conversions. Uh we worked with our housing and neighborhood services partners to come up with that type of strategy. I don't know if it's been explored for the petition we talked about earlier this evening, but we can excuse me certainly reach out and see if that's something else that can be uh offered. I think the the difference with some of that is the actual ownership of uh of the units versus here they're uh you know in the in the hotel staying where uh the other petition we heard earlier like said they actually own that asset and so that's a whole another level of trying to coordinate you know assistance with not just relocating people but also real property. Uh so that's why there may not be you know a direct correlation between the two but we can certainly explore to see if there's anything else that we can learn from it. Yeah. And madame mayor, I was just going to say, Miss Johnson, just you tracking with this. I don't know what your reactions are to that to try to help us before a decision on the previous petition. Are those strategies that might like you said, the challenge is that they own their mobile home, you know, and they so that's just the extra challenge. We've we've seen these displacement strate strategies when hotels are redeveloped and I appreciate the fact that we have this and we're working to be proactive. So, yes, it does help. It absolutely helps. Yes. Thank you for asking the question. Thank you. More questions. All right. The one question I have, and I'm not sure if if you're aware of this, but it says it's for up to 125 multif family stack residential units. Uh, do you have any knowledge of how many families currently stay at the motel? I do not. That's that's a question we can ask of the petitioner. Okay. I'm just trying to understand the scope of this anti-displacement um effort here if it's you know really being leveraged you know at a 80% capacity or above or you know have they is is it much lower than that because that will give us some understanding of the impact. So can I can I say something? Yes, Miss Johnson. So I I think I'm doing the math correctly. when we talk about affordable or attainable or workforce housing, 80% is around $89,000 for the household. So, I just want us to keep that in mind when we're advocating for affordable housing. Thank you. Okay. All right. Is there a motion to close public hearing? Second. All right. Have a motion and second. All in favor raise hands. Any oppose? That's unanimous. Thank you. And we will move on to petition number 19. Petition 20 2528 by Canvas Residential Partners LLC. The location is approximately 8.91 acres located south of M Mount Holly Huntersville Road east of Oakdale Road and west of Fire Street Drive in the ETJ closest to uh district 4 Miss Johnson's district and for the county commissioners district 1 Miss Powell. The current zoning is N1A. Proposed zoning is N2ACD. Staff recommends approval of this petition uh upon resolution of outstanding issues related to transportation and site design. Miss uh Grant will join us yet again. And I want to see if if Mr. Tom Wright, are you in the building? Okay, wonderful. So, Miss Grant, you'll have 10 minutes. Mr. Right. Will have 10 minutes and you you will again have two minutes for your rebuttal. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor Prom. 2025 028. It's just under 9 acres as mentioned off of Mount Holly Huntersville Road just east of Oakdale and west of Fire Streak Drive. Uh currently zoned N1A, proposing to reszone to neighborhood 2A conditional. Uh you can see we've got some RA to MFCD uh heading down around Holly Huntersville uh back over there to uh Oakdale which uh when we did translation when the UDO went into effect the R8 MF uh zoning district translated directly to neighborhood 2A. So just want to provide a little bit of that context and background for you. The adopted place type on the policy map uh does recommend neighborhood one. Again, you can see uh that orange just to the left that represents neighborhood 2 uh which again is reflective of that R8 MF uh zoning that is currently in place for those two projects just to the east or excuse me west. Uh the proposal for 202528 would be for up to 65 multif family attached residential dwelling units essentially town homes. Uh limits the number of units in a building to a maximum of four. uh does provide an eight foot wide planning strip and 12 foot wide multi-use path along Mount Holly Huntersville as well as eight foot wide planning strip and sidewalk on public road A. Uh there is connectivity with the projects uh to the west. Uh so that provides a continual uh street network from this project through the other two existing projects all the way back down to Oakdale. Uh that would be through Blueale Road and a street stub also to the adjacent property to the east so that road network uh can continue on uh should there be future development. uh does provide open space that's accessible to residents. Uh that would consist of some different design elements uh for seating uh decorations, interactive elements, things like that. Also provides a 10-ft class C buffer adjacent to single family use or zoned property and then also commits to some design guidelines uh for the design of the actual structures themselves. Staff does recommend approval of this petition upon resolution of outstanding issues related to transportation and site design. Uh again, it is inconsistent with the policy map recommendation for neighborhood one. We do have the adjacencies uh just next door and somewhat of a continuation of uh the communities that have been built there. Again, per uh particularly with that public street network uh that does provide that access all the way back over uh to Oakdale without getting back onto Mount Holly, Huntersville. Uh so that's one element we also want to ensure that we highlight a little bit uh as part of this uh continuation of what really is those two developments again to the west. So, with that, we'll turn it over to the petitioner as well as uh the community and take questions following their presentations. Thank you. Okay. Thank you, Miss Grant. Good evening, Mayor Proen, members of council, members of the zoning committee. Bridget Grant here on behalf of John Floyd. I'm covering for his case tonight, so you might do additional follow-up with him. We're here representing Kraton Call and Canvas Residential on what's essentially a third phase to this resoning community. Staff mentioned that's an 8.91 acre site. And I'm not going to repeat everything that Dave said. Let me jump ahead to the site. This got developed as Oak Lake phase one. The initial phase was developed as a transition upon what was supposed to be potentially commercial where Oak Lake phase 2 is. And so we were transitioning between commercial to town homes in this location. After this first phase began development, there was interest from the property owners in selling to this developer and it created the opportunity for us to provide more town homes in this area and provide that direct connection out to the road and sort of relieve some of the traffic that's on Mount Holly Huntersville Road by providing a parallel path. As we've been working through on Oaklake phase one and phase two, the property owner that owns phase three approached the development team because they had a change in circumstance and wanted to downsize away from their current home situation and thought that continuing the same quality development continuity between the development uses, transitioning between what was happening over to the single family and again continuing that road network that provides you an alternative off of Mount Holly Huntersville Road and a good parallel path would be an appropriate transition in this location. So when you look at the site plan rendered as Dave mentioned, we've got 20 foot setbacks from back of curb. We are accommodating future changes for theair setback. We've got one access point on Mount Holly Hunter Mount Holly Huntersville Road, but our internal streets will provide stubs that pro support the existing development to the south as well as any future development that will happen on adjacent property. Um, with that, I'm happy to answer any questions after Mr. Wright has a chance to speak. Okay. Uh, Mr. Wright, if you could come on down to the podium, and once you arrive, you will have, uh, 10 minutes. Thank you for your time. Um, my concern is with the amount of traffic. The proposed additional development is going to be up to 65 units, which I'm sure that's probably what they're going to put there. Uh allowing for one and a half spaces for vehicle parking. That up to an additional 90 vehicles. Now, I understand that they proposed or are putting in a road that will parallel Mount Holly Hunzel Road, but there's also going to be one entrance that is coming out somewhere roughly a couple of football fields is about the best analogy I can give you. down from my property and my property is directly adjoining to the property that they're going to build on and excuse me that property my property has been in the family well I'm 76 years old so property has been there 75 80 years it's been the same family additionally I have relatives who live behind and beside of me who have been there just as long as I have and they couldn't be here tonight due to poor health. But my concern is the additional growth of traffic. Now road used to be a pretty little two-lane country road. Now it's a two-lane country speedway. I can stand in my yard and hear the cars leaving the traffic circle a quarter mile down the road and it sounds like a drag strip. So my big concern is the additional traffic. Granted, some of the people are going to use the roadway going out down to Oakdale, but there's some going to use the other and that that's my big issue. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Grant. You have two minutes. Thank you. I just want to say we appreciate Mr. Wright's willingness to come out and speak tonight and and share his concerns about the proposed development. We do think that there will be some relief by using the internal street network. And it's just not uncommon when you see the amount of transportation improvements that have been made with the roundabouts in that area that some of the development followed with it. One of the things he mentioned though that I did want to clarify is the parking at 1.5 spaces per unit. We have a lot of conversations about parking in town home developments. That is the ordinance requirement. And so what's noted on the plan is the ordinance requirement. We are likely going to have one and twocar garages with parking in the driveway as well as guest parking available on street. So we anticipate it'll be over the 1.5. We're just noting the ordinance requirement. Happy to answer any questions. Right. Thank you, Miss Mayfield. Thank you, Mr. Pton. Question. It is noted by staff the proposed development will fill a need for housing in the area that's been identified by the 2040 comprehensive plan. is lacking opportunities for access to housing. How often are we looking at that? Because what I'm really trying to understand is does this rationale of that statement take into consideration the multiple multif family projects that we have already approved and the fact that further up Mount Holly Huntersville Road a 2022 approval of a new police station the ground breaking and clearing has already happened. We have another development that was approved where the clear cutting happened but for the last two two and a half months no work has continued and I don't know if that's because of the financial climate today where work has stopped but I'm trying to reconcile utilizing the language of lacking in an area that is not lacking just based off of the approvals of multif family that this council has moved forward within the last year and a half. Yeah, and that's a good question. I think that's something we'll have to follow up with our folks that manage that EGF uh database and see how often it gets updated and what you know year that's being pulled from. Uh but I'll be happy to look into that and give you a followup on it. So that speaks to a request that council member Johnson has made repeatedly when we talk about accumulative impact of areas. So, it's challenging to read a comment regarding an area that's been identified knowing that staff isn't automatically since the question has been asked multiple times for a number of years now to look at what we're approving in real time to see the impact of Miss Grant, when we're looking at the the possible connections, what were the improvements that have been committed to by the organization you're representing? The commitment is to provide the extension of the existing public street network from phases one and two into phase three. So it's essentially an execution of what we would refer to as our subdivision requirements where we're building a street network to provide a parallel road that runs parallel to Mount Holly Huntersville Road. So it would be an alternative route and the idea of connecting this multif family into this residential community versus having a third row staff. We're mandating that. So the the projects to the west of this uh both built public streets that extended from Oakdale with the intention of building out a network that could be a public road network for folks to get from one side of that area to another without having to get on Mount Holly Huntersville. Uh so they are all public streets that are being connected to. So we're not connecting from a public street the city would maintain to a private street that's maintained by you know an HOA. are private alleys, but the public street network is something that was designed with the initial project and will continue forward uh to the east should other projects be approved. But it's essentially again trying to build that parallel road network to Mount Holly Huntersville to provide some relief for it. But yes, that is a requirement. So in our requirement and maybe I've missed it, can you point out where we have the language regarding the fact that traffic calming is going to be installed because the reality in residential is 25 miles an hour as was mentioned and what I know because I live along the area and I drive different parts of Mount Holly Huntersville on a daily basis. is is that when individuals are cutting through neighborhood, they are not adhering to 20 25 miles an hour. So where's the language that ensures the protection of this residential community and or has commitments regarding traffic calming via speed bumps to make sure they're protected? I I'm not aware of any traffic coming that's built into the proposed road network, but u I don't know if C do has anything else to share on that, but I I'm not aware of any other commitments to trafficcoming for the new road network. So that is something that while we're looking at updating language and we're looking at community impact that needs to be taken in consideration because maybe staff has the time maybe they don't to actually drive these communities where you are supporting development. But currently in residential neighborhoods, especially single family neighborhoods where the speed limit is 20 25 miles an hour, when we are adding these connectors, that is not how individuals are driving. So just as it was mentioned tonight that you can hear the vehicles, especially down at the roundabout at the other end, it's a mini speedway. It doesn't get as much attention as other parts of the city. Yet, the vehicles still utilize these straightways and these connectors through community. So we if we're going to say we have a priority around agent in place of staying in place that means that we also need to have a commitment to ensure that whether it is the petitioner that wants to connect in or if we're going to mandate the connections that we have the language in place that actually protects these neighborhoods. Excuse me, Bridget. I don't know if there's opportunity to speak to your clients, but if we're talking about connecting into residential community, then there has to be some benefits to that community because unfortunately traffic patterns today, individuals need a little guidance on how to drive versus what they actually do. And sometimes that means we need to be a little bit more proactive on the front end. So it would be helpful if you could have a conversation and we can follow up. We'd be happy to have that conversation. And just for full transparency and acknowledgement, I did make sure to post this on to next door for the community that so that others will also know that this hearing was happening tonight and how to reach out if they had comments to because there's a lot of moving parts happening all along Mount Holly Huntersville Road, but it's really just one really good drag road depending on the morning or the time. But what I can say just in the last six months alone, it can take me anywhere from eight minutes up to eight minutes just to make a left turn out of my community. Oh wow. Because of the amount of traffic. So, and that's not even seeing all of the impacts. That's just a few of the lane going down one lane because of construction that's happening with all the clearing. And again, there was no notification regarding the police station. That was I had to go in and look up in the system and found out that that was something approved at the beginning of 2022, which is great having a police station, but there's you just see clear cutting and trucks blocking the road. If it's taking me up to 8 minutes to get out just to try to make a left turn, this cumulative impact must be a consideration. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Johnson. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Mayfield. Yeah, cumulative impact. Yeah, this cumulative impact there. So, we have to look at this from a policy perspective and I appreciate you being the eyes and the ears for Mount Holly's, you know, Honeyville Holly Road, you talk about it all of the time and we we from a policy perspective, we almost need to look at the the trip or the traffic impact study trigger. Maybe it should be lower on two-lane roads or or different areas or or areas with less infrastructure, which is why I champion the infrastructure meeting. We really have to start taking a look at this and and doing something with the information that we know, right? So, I appreciate you coming out, sir. Thank you for for um advocating for your neighborhood. Thank you for telling us more about the neighborhood. I'll make sure I drive out there before the decision. Um but you know we have to look at when we're implanting these multifamily in established single family residents. There has to be some consideration. This question is for staff. This petition is inconsistent with the 2040 policy map. Can you um explain your rationale for recommendation please? Yeah sure. So, one of the items that we talked about was uh the adjacency of the neighborhood to place type and the continuation of that uh community and that public street network. Uh providing that kind of uh alternative routes like we said on Mount Holly, Huntersville that does get you back over to Oakdale. There is also uh recent entitlements on the other side of that uh that would provide some neighborhood services. I believe it was upwards of uh 20,000 I think square feet of some neighborhood services at a shopping center at the other uh corner of that Oakdale and Mount Holly Huntersville. So we did see some services coming uh to that as well. But those adjacencies and that public street network were two things we looked at uh as well as as we talked about. I know we talked about getting some dates for when that data is pulled from. But the GA housing uh information, the housing gap study that we look at did identify this as an area of need for housing. that was something that we did site as well. So those were some of the main reasons that we uh made our recommendation uh and had our rationale as we did. Okay. And I'll just say when I talk about cumulative impact that's schools and everything and we as a council really have to sit back and think about what's our city going to look like in 10 years from these these decisions we're making. Can you provide us with a map? Um you or Miss Craig with the map? You know, I've asked for maps for district four areas of the de the uh approved by right and pending development and within a certain radius for the last two years or so. If we could have that for this area also that would be very helpful so that council can see from a grand scale um the changes in this area. Also, how can residents keep up with the development in their area and know what's pending, what's right, what's approved. Um, can you give a recommendation? Yeah, we can certainly produce some maps uh as requested. I would say the best way for folks to stay plugged in on active projects, uh, development projects, city related projects, resonings, uh, the development near me app is really the best way to, uh, track that stuff. That's something that is kept up in in kind of in in live time. Uh you can go in and see what type of projects being built. If it's a new waterline or a new subdivision or road improvements, street lighting projects, uh those will all be captured in that and folks can click on uh the different items and see what those projects are, know who to talk to, uh and they can reach out and get information on those individually. Are they able to see an illustration of all of the pending and approved particular? Yeah, it's you open the map up and there's uh different colors and and others things that kind of indicate different types of projects, you know, dots, stars for, you know, different types of things. So, you can really see those areas that have been u you know, heavily developed or have a lot of, you know, capital investment projects in. They'll have a lot of uh, you know, different colors and and things to click on for folks to learn more about. Uh, but yeah, as soon as you open it, you can really get an idea of of the type of activity going on. Okay. Thank you. Well, for this petition, I'd like a map for council to be able to take a look at. Thank you. Certainly. That's all I have. Okay. Is there a motion to close public? Close. Second. Second. All right. All in favor raise hands. Any oppose? That's unanimous. Thank you, Mr. Wright, for coming out. We're going to move on to agenda item number 20, petition number 2025 029 by Summit Avenue, Welssley Heights LLC. The location is approximately 1.49 49 acres located north of Freedom Drive east of Thrift Road and west of Welssley Village Road in district 2, Mr. Graham's district. The current zoning is MUD OPA. Proposed zoning is NCCD. Staff recommends approval of this petition upon resolution of uh requested technical revisions. And after staff's presentation, Miss Sarah Stewart, you will have three minutes. Thank you. Good evening. Petition 2025 029 is located on the north side of Freedom Drive, east of Thrift Road and west of Wesley Village Road. Sites approximately 1.49 acres and is currently undeveloped. Current zoning is MUD O SPA mixeduse development district optional site plan amendment. Proposed zoning is NCCD neighborhood center conditional. 2040 policy map recommends the neighborhood two place type for this site. The NC district is inconsistent with the policy map recommendation. Um and approval of this petition would revise the policy map to the neighborhood center place type. Little background on the site. A previous uh MTO spa plan proposed the development of a mixeduse building containing 10,000 ft of retail and 66,000 ft of office. proposed. Um, this proposed plan allows all uses permitted in the NC zoning district with the exception of some auto automotive oriented uses such as gas stations, vehicle repair facilities, uh, car washes, car dealerships, etc. Staff recommends approval of this petition upon resolution of requested technical revisions as the site is in a rapidly changing mixeduse area containing a variety of housing types and supporting goods and services. Uh the current MUD O zoning allows intensive office and commercial uses while the proposed NC zoning district allows for building forms that are that may be more compatible with the scale of the surrounding area and permits a wide variety of uses while uh prohibiting autocentric uses so that uh the site may pro promote walkability and compact development. Happy to take any questions following petitioner's presentation. Thank you. Uh Miss Stewart, come on down. And upon your arrival, you will have three minutes. Good evening. Um, thank you, Mayor Prom, council members, and zoning committee members. Um, I don't really have anything to add to staff's presentation, but I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. Second. Okay. All in favor of closing public hearing, raise hands. Any oppose? That's unanimous. Thank you for coming out. We'll move on to agenda item number 21, petition number 2025 036 by Range Works. The location is approximately 1.55 acres, located south of Bryant Street, west of South Summit Street and east of Freedom Drive in district 2, Mr. Graham's district. Again, current zoning is in C. Proposed zoning is CGCD. Staff recommends approval of this petition upon resolution of outstanding issues and technical revisions related to transportation. After staff's presentation, Mr. Cullen Brown will have three minutes. Thank you. Yeah, this petition is located at the corner of Bryant Street and Summit Street. It's approximately 1.55 acres and it's developed as a service parking lot. Uh the current zoning is NC neighborhood center and the proposed zoning is CGCD general commercial conditional. 2040 policy map recommends the community activity center place type for the site and the proposed zoning um would be consistent with that place type. Pros uh plan calls for the development of a driving range and private outdoor recreation facility with a minimum of 36 bay or maximum of 36 driving bays. Uh the structure would be a maximum of 11,000 square feet and would be open air. The existing surface parking lot would be uh is proposed to remain underneath this driving facility. The site permits only um the land uses of driving range, private outdoor recreation facility and parking lot as principal use. Staff recommends the approval of this petition upon resolution of outstanding issues and requested technical revisions related to transportation as the conference plan calls for the community activity center place type um to provide entertainment and open space and mixeduse walkable settings and the proposed driving range and outdoor recreation facility could advance the goals of providing recreation facilities in the area. I'm happy to take any questions following Mr. Brown's presentation. Thank you, Mr. Brown. Welcome. Thank you. Um, Mayor Pro Tim, council members, zoning committee members, Colin Brown on behalf of Range Works. Uh, this is a cool petition. Um, so if you know this area, it is an area that is rapidly changing. Uh, my client Range Works is working in partnership with the property owner, which is a group named Asana. So here, Asana owns the Grenell Waterworks, which is kind of historic building, lower level, one to twotory buildings. And as you all know, you're seeing every surface parking lot like this one out there is being replaced by new multif family housing or something like that. So what Asana is trying to figure out, they need the parking to serve these kind of historic buildings. Uh but how do you monetize this? So this is pretty cool. Uh range works is a new concept of kind of an urban driving range, more like what you would see in Asia. Literally, you see this in Korea where things are very constricted. And so the idea is the surface parking lot stays there and the structure gets built on top of this. Uh George Matting with Rangeworks, if he was here, uh when I first met him, I said, "Oh yeah, well I did the work for Topgolf when they first came to town." And the first thing he says is, "Look, we are not Topgolf." Uh, and I remember Council Member Mayfield, we went to Austin to look at Topgolf before they came. And Topgolf is is a party. It's it's lights, it's music, they make their their money off food and beverage. That is not what this is. This is for golfers that want a place to play in the city. Um, so it is very much more targeted on on that of someone that would come from their office downtown and come out. So here' be a look at this. What you're seeing, this range is actually up. So the the parking lot surface parking lot stays down there. Renell Waterworks has its same parking. Uh and then essentially a steel structure is built on top of that and then there's just netting and the only building here is elevated. So there's just hitting base where people come. Um so it is a I think a pretty you can see surface parking lot still there on the bottom building very small netting. The netting is used unlike Top Golf. You can see those nets are a long way away. This actually has a roof on the top net. So the the poles do not have to be as high. Uh they use the netting, they're going to use the netting product. Same as it major league baseball. So if you go see a game, you don't even know the net is there. Uh that's the concept. So it works pretty well to serve as sauna. So they can kind of keep Grenell Waterworks, which I think are some of the coolest buildings we have in the area there and functional, monetize this, but bring in a new use uh that would serve the community. This is the map I used. Um, we had a a well I know council member Graham is not here tonight. We had good attendance uh at the uh official community meeting. Uh the Wesley Heights Community Association invited George and myself out to their meeting last week. Um you will hear from them. I think it's fair to say they're excited, you know, about a concept that's kind of neighborhood serving. Uh this map I was showing you that kind of goes downhill so it's lower. So they were, you know, not concerned about what they'll see for the neighborhood. We're really right up against the the the ramp here. Got a great view of downtown. Uh so you know golfers that's going to be what they see. The neighborhood will not see much. The neighborhood is excited about this use and frankly about having um something new and bright and secure. There are some other happy to answer questions if you have them. Thank you. Mr. Brown is how many of these uh range works ex currently exist? This is a new company. There are several in the works. Charlotte would be the first delivery. Uh and if you're in marketing, this is a magic location to be able to bring people there and see that skyline. Uh so very excited. This is the top priority. Uh I will say we do have some modifications to make the plan. We're going to have to our UDO has a lot of things uh flexible. It is not a little bit of a square peg round hole. Um so we're going to be working on some modifications. We also have seeks some variances. So it's great that we're not coming to you next month. So we'll be back to you August at the earliest after we've also seen the ZBA. It's good to hear that the community is excited about as well. Yeah, Miss Mayfield. Thank you. Okay, Mr. Brown, we didn't we went down this road similarly many years ago with Top Golf, but you say this is not Top Golf. I'm trying to One of the selling points that made Top Golf great is the fact that it was way out on a lot of land without anything near. So even though it has the netting, the chances of a fly ball hitting anything of significance were slim to none. This in direct opposition in town in a much closer space. So walk me through again how this is a good location for something like this. Yeah. Well, here I mean the location is what they're after. They're looking at an urban location where if you and I know if you're coming from your uh someone who works downtown can come for an hour. If you're coming downtown for another event kind of part of an you know entertainment area uh folks from the neighborhood can come down and it's enclosed and I'm happy to set up a virtual meeting with you and Mr. Mattingley who's the expert uh to talk about it but you can barely see it on here but there's a top on it as well. So, um, Topgolf has their pulse so high in case someone can hit them over. This will be almost fully enclosed with this very there's a Musco is the um producer of the netting who does the major league netting. If you've been to a major league baseball game, I don't even know there's a net there. U, but it'll be here and on top as well. And so this is very much the draw that the idea is this is urban. It is downtown. It's walkable for folks in the neighborhood. You know, you know, there's a lot of residents coming here. There's a lot of entertainment part of that. I mean, you could walk to Panther Stadium from here. So, the cell here is very much the location. And I went out there the other day and it's it's an incredible view. And if you imagine two hitting bays looking at the skyline. So, that is the cell. The hitting bays, just for clarification, they will or will not be providing food and drink. Um, they will have very limited there. This is probably one or two employees. There may be a refrigerator. So, it's not going to be the expensive like ABC licensing, a full You may get a power drink or power bar. And he says this is for real golfers, you know, that that go have fun. They may be there an hour an hour. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. To close the hearing. Second. All right. All in favor of closing public hearing, raise hands. Any opposed? That's unanimous. We'll move on to agenda item number 22, petition number 2025037 by East Group Properties LP. The location is approximately 1.23 acres, located north of Shopton, east of Pinerest and west of Beam Road in district 3, Miss Brown's district. The current zoning is I1 CD A N D O and N1A A N D O. Proposed zoning is I1 N1A A N D O and ML1 CD A N D O. Staff recommends this petition and after staff's presentation we will have Mr. Carmichael. He'll have three minutes. Thank you. Session 2025-037 is approximately 1.23 acres located on the north side of Shopton Road west of Beam Road and east of Pinerest Drive. It is uh surrounded by a previously approved petition on over 100 acres for light industrial development. Current zoning uh two separate pieces to this reszoning. The western triangular portion is zoned I1 CD A N O. The uh more rectangular portion to the east is zoned N1A. A NDO. Proposed zoning would effectively swap the zoning uh with the N1A going to ML1 CD. Uh the the I1 CD going to N1 ACD. The policy map recommends the manufacturing and logistics place type reflecting the current zoning for the I1CD portion and neighborhood one for the N1A portion. So, it's a tier one reszoning. Um, all uses permitted in the N1A zoning district would be allowed on the western portion. Only a vehicular and truck private driveway connection will be permitted on the eastern portion of the site. Staff recommends approval of petition. It is inconsistent uh but would would facilitate a more efficient vehicular and truck driveway connection for a previously approved resoning and light industrial development. The petition will allow for internal connectivity between two sides of a light industrial operation, reducing vehicular and truck traffic impacts to Shopton Road. The site is just south of Charlotte Douglas Airport as well as in the airport noise disclosure overlay. And I'll take any questions following comments from the petitioner. Thank you. Welcome, Mr. Carmichael. Thank you, Madam Mayor, Pro Tim, members of council, members of the zoning committee. and John Carmichael uh on behalf of East Group Properties. And with me tonight is Miss Felicia Reic with East Group Properties. Uh Joe did a really good job going through many of the details, so I'll try not to be too repetitive, but um the site is um just northeast of Shopton Road and it's just east of the intersection of Pinerest and Shop Road and then further to the west is Shopan Road and um Sandy Porter Road. But this is an aerial photograph. the site is here and then you can see East Group has um is developing these two properties here. As Joe said, there's there is an existing zoning uh of I1 CD NDO that encircles the site. Y'all may or may not recall that that site was reszoned by the airport some years ago and then Eastg groupoup purchased that property. East Grove is developing a light industrial business park on the northern portion here and then the southern portion here. And so this parcel here to the west is currently zoned I1 CD and then this parcel is zoned N1A. And so what's happening here is the petitioner is requesting that the western portion of the site that's currently zoned N1A be reszone to excuse me the zone I1 CD the western portion be resoneed from I1 CD to N1A and this eastern portion be reszoned uh from N1A to ML1 CD and what would happen is this parcel would be incorporated into the N the existing N1A site the western parcel the eastern parcel would be incorporated into the light industrial development. And so the property owner here has agreed to that and east group has agreed to that. And the property owner uh we're doing the land swap with we get a little more land. And so as Joe alluded to, the purpose of this request is to facilate facilitate a land swap between the owners of two adjacent parcels of land, one of whom is the petitioner. As I mentioned, the light industrial business park is being developed by the petitioner to the north and to the south. And this land swap would uh allow for a more efficient and effective private vehicular connection between the northern portion of the industrial park and the southern portion of the industrial park. The only uses that would be allowed on the portion that's being resoneed from N1A to ML1CD would be the driveway connection and then pedestrian improvements, open space, tree safe landscaping and and buffers. So, no hor no vertical improvements, just horizontal. So, it's a land swap between two property owners, but they need to reszone uh each parcel to affectuate the land swap. And I probably done a poor job of explaining that, but um here again, the key is you've got industrial park being developed all around here and then we're doing that land swap. Happy to answer questions if that's clear as mud. Thank you. I know you've you shared that with me in one of our meetings as well, so I know it's a little bit of a mouthful there. Any questions, Miss Molina? So, I'm I'm actually peeking at uh the former district 3 rep over there to ask for some context because I I know. So, I I'll start with my questions, right? Um that did sound a bit confusing. So, I can't even imagine what a resident listening might be thinking. Well, let let me show you this. So, this is Yeah. And it's it's hard to describe. So, um can you see this coun the site is here? Okay, that square and that kind of box or rectangular, I don't know what the geometric shape is is named officially, but um East Group, we reszoneed this for East Group some years ago and they're developing that. All this was reszoned by the airport. You see these buildings here? So, just to be clear, I heard you say that there was a residential ask in here, right? See, this is zoned N1A. Okay, this is currently zone residential and there is an industrial park. once again being developed around these two parcels. This parcel here is part of the airport reszoning. It's currently zone I1 CD. This parcel is zone N1A. It's part of this residential lot. So, what's happened is East Group and this property owner have agreed to swap these portions of their parcels. But to do that, the industrial currently the parcel that's currently zone industrial needs to be reszoned to N1A so it could be incorporated into this gentleman's residential lot. And then the residentially zoned property owned by the neighbor needs to be reszoned to ML1 CD and then incorporated into the industrial site. So in other words, you're you're talking about two transactions. One is a land swap that's totally separate and apart from this process. Well, we need to reszone it to affectuate the land swap because the residential owner wants to use it for residential purposes and East Group wants to use it for what they would get for industrial contingency on the approval of the petition in order for there to be a proper land swap. Exactly. So, what my question then becomes is are these conditional? Uh, so yes. So the ML1 CD would only be limited to horizontal improvements, the driveway connection, landscaping buffers, pedestrian improvements, open space. So that area here could only be horizontal improvements, landscaping buffers, the drive connection. Okay. The part that's going to be reszoned to residential could be used u for any use allowed in in 1A. So we didn't we didn't condition the uses in the single family district. Okay. But they are conditioned on the Yes, ma'am. Okay. Yeah. So, we can't do any any vertical improvements here. Okay. And that and that was to protect this property owner too, right? Okay. Um and I I wish there was a way to just I I'm I guess for anybody who would be watching, especially if you live in the district because the district rep is not here, right? So, I imagine and I see that you had some participation. We had we had three people at the neighborhood meeting. We had Mr. Kent Maine who y'all may remember worked for the city's planning department. He lives in uh Joe, it's Eagle that Eagle Lake. Eagle Lake. Okay. Which is right right by Eagle Lake is right. So Kent Eagle Lake is over here. Okay. So Kent came and then two other area residents came who live or have property. I don't want to say they live, they have property across Shopton Road, but but really if you look at the surrounding owners, other than the person uh that East Group's contracting with, I think the other adjoining property owners are the airport property that East Group has purchased because it's really kind of buried in here. Okay. Okay. Um but it wouldn't increase the density obviously of the industrial. It wouldn't have any effect in terms of density or extra, you know, building space or anything like that. Okay. Okay. Well, that's that's really all I had just to make sure that I Yeah, it's it's like I said, it's I had to it's it's not as readily apparent my if you just say it verbally. Okay. Thank you. That that's all I have. Mayor Bertton, Miss Mayfield, thank you staff question. Based on the conversation that we just heard, if we move forward, the land swap happens and it goes back to residential some form based on everything that is approved around it because of the way the airport has purchased and created manufacturing logistics according to our 2040 plan. Would you all recommend residential that is literally sandwich with manufacturing all around it typically. No, but in this case it's it's almost like a one for one trade. So um we're not really introducing additional in one zoning into a manufacturing logistics area. David, go ahead. You're making your way. It's okay. But do you understand my question? Based on what was just shared and the map that we looked at where manufacturing is all around and we've left this little parcel where it's just if the swap happens which is one part of the conversation and that new residential we almost had it. Oh I don't I didn't touch it. Yeah. No I I know you didn't click but you could have left it up. That seemed like that's not the one. The other one was a better one that you were sharing, John. But when you look at that and knowing what airport has reszoned all around it, I'm trying to understand the logic of why would we even have a conversation about potentially identifying more of N1A when none of that should be developed for housing based on its current location. our SEAP environmental impacts and being surrounded by manufacturing and logistics. Yes, this one. Yeah. So, it's this one here. So, it's it's as Joe had mentioned, it's really just a a one for one swap. He his N1 property extends all the way back to here right now. So, this is zoned for residential. This back piece, this piece is what's zoned for industrial. So, in order to actually get this residential piece a little bit further away from the industrial, they've agreed to this land swap. But in order for it to work, we got to go through this exercise of reszoning. So, as Joe had mentioned, we're not really introducing any additional residential space. And I don't think that the, you know, folks that are here have any real intention of doing anything other than getting themselves a little bit further removed and a little bit more space away from any industrial development by just affffectuating this land swap. So, it's not introducing anything necessarily new. It's it's really kind of helping facilitate this agreement between the two property owners that are saying, "Hey, let's work together here because the space that we want is better for us and the space that we want to give you is probably better for you to protect you from some of that industrial uh, you know, encroachment." So, they've agreed to that swap to kind of both insulate themselves a little bit better than they currently are. Okay. So, I'm going to ask you a different question. Let's say fast forward swap has been done. This swath that now is zoned M1A for housing. You're saying that in our 2040 plan that will be consistent with putting h having housing be developed right there when it is surrounded by manufacturing logistic knowing that we have a seat plan environmental controls and other potential environmental opp challenges we would approve housing there. So, if we can go back to our presentation and pull up the comp plan exhibit. So, the comp plan, I think, already identifies the property owner's parcel as neighborhood one. Uh, yeah. So, essentially, why we This is the manufacturing piece that is looking to be swapped. So, they're inconsistent because they're both representing the current zoning. So, essentially that inconsistency then really makes this yellow and this purple and is kind of that one forone swap. But right now it's you could build a house all the way back to here and if this resoning were to go through you could still do that. It would just be potentially on this piece. So it when we looked at it again, we didn't really look at it as introducing more. We're just kind of flipping the two areas where it's mapped. So this goes back to the comment I made earlier regarding impact. Looking at this one map, it shares one version, but we're not having a accurate conversation because what we know is that the airport has purchased and reszone the land all around this one little piece. And if we're talking about that eventually, whether it's 6 months from now, 8 weeks from now, four years from now, that potentially residential can go in this area based on what we may do tonight to just swap these two pieces. That would be a complete disservice to know that someone would then be able to come in and put in a proposal for some type of residential in that area knowing that we potentially have environmental impacts over there. That is what I'm trying to get to that long term and stop looking at peace meal. Yeah. Cuz just this one piece looks like okay that will make sense to give them the chance to switch it out. But the bigger concern is the M the bigger concern for me is the M1A piece of it because we've already approved multiple things that are immediately surrounding it. So why would we then open the door for potential h that's just like saying that we're it's in an airport noise overlay but we're going to approve housing when we told everybody else you need to sell because it's an airport noise. And again, I think our our main view of it was that could happen on this piece today and not this piece. If the reasoning went through, it could happen on this piece tomorrow and not that piece. So, it it's again, we we looked at it straight as a a swap between two property owners that were agreeing to it. uh they would be in control and ownership of the property and whether or not a a future house was built in this location or this location. They're both going to be still, you know, in this area of industrial zoning around it. There's office zoning here. Uh but we we didn't really look at it as more or less impactful. It was almost kind of one negates the other. So, okay. Thank you. Move closely here. Thank you. So, um Mr. Pton. I believe Miss uh Reic is here. She might be able to add some light. If I was asking a question, I'll follow up. Say that again. I wasn't asking an additional question. You didn't want an additional question. Okay. I just wanted to make sure you knew that she was here. Okay. We have a motion to close public hearing and second. All in favor raise hands. Move to adjurnn. Thank you. We have one more. Oh, we got another one. We have one more. I know. That's right. Yeah, let me Yeah. Okay, that was that was unanimous clerk for the closing of um agenda number 22. Anyway, thank thank you, Mr. Carmichael. I think Mr. Mr. Gross would would be a little bit upset by that. Now, we will uh move on to our final agenda, item number 23, petition number 202538 by Long Valley uh the second um LLC. The location is approximately 7.76 acres located north of Forest Point Circle, east of Forest Point Boulevard and south of West uh Arrowhead in District 3, Miss Brown's district. The current zoning is BDC CD. Proposed zoning is OFC. Staff recommends the approval of this petition. And after staff's presentation, Mr. Gross will have three minutes. Thank you. Petition 2025038 is located on Forest Point Circle just kind of southeast of the intersection of West Arrowwood and um I77. The property zone BDCD distributive distribut distributive business conditional. The proposed zoning is OFC office flex campus which is a conventional zoning district. 2040 policy map recommends the manufacturing logistics place type. the OFC district is inconsistent and this um and this resoning would uh revise the policy map to the campus place site. Uh this is a conventional resoning petition. There's not an associated site plan and would permit any use allowed in the OFC zoning district. Staff recommends approval of this petition as the site is surrounded by properties developed as office uses and the proof zoning district is compatible with the existing uses and there are several adjacent properties zoned OFC. Happy to take any questions following Mr. Gross's presentation. Thank you, Mrs. Gross. Good evening, Mayor Pro Tim, members of city council and the zoning committee. Nolan Gross with Urban Design Partners representing the petitioner Long Valley 2 LLC. Max was very thorough in his presentation. As he mentioned, this is a conventional request, so I'm happy to answer any questions you might have. Thank you. Um, any questions? Motion. Second. Okay. All in favor of closing public hearing, raise hands. I try again. Any oppose? That is unanimous. Move to adjurnn. To adjourn. All right. All in favor of going home, please do so. 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