>>> I GUESS WE ARE ON, I MISSED THE BEAUTIFUL INTRO. GOOD AFTERNOON, IT'S MARCH 26th, 23 FIVE MEETING OF PARTS, PUBLIC UTILITIES, AND TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE WILL COME TOGETHER, I'M JOEY HOLLINGSWORTH, CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE? >> [ ROLL BEING CALLED ] CHAIR, THERE ARE FOUR COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT. >> AWESOME, THANK YOU. ON THE AGENDA TODAY, WE ARE GOING TO GO OVER AN ORDINANCE THAT AUTHORIZES SEATTLEITE AND UTILITY TO EXPAND FUNDS IN ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP EFFORTS IN THE LOWER WATERWAY. THE WATERWAY IS SEATTLE'S ONLY RIVER, IT HOLDS SIGNIFICANT CULTURAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL SIGNIFICANCE TO OUR TRIBAL COMMUNITIES AND OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE LOCATED ALONG THAT CORRIDOR. LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THE CONVERSATION AND WE WILL NOW CONSIDER THE AGENDA. AND IF THERE IS NO OBJECTIONS, THE AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED BUT HEARING NONE, THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. WE ARE NOW GOING TO MOVE INTO MY FAVORITE PART OF OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS, WHICH IS PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD RELATE TO THE ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA AND BE WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMITTEE. CLERK, HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE SIGNED UP TODAY? >> WE HAVE ONE IN PERSON AND ONE REMOTE SPEAKER SIGNED UP. >> AWESOME, EACH SPEAKER IS GOING TO HAVE TWO MINUTES COMMANDLY PLEASE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD? >> THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL BE MODERATED IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER. I WILL CALL ON THE SPEAKERS BY NAME IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY REGISTERED, BOTH ON THE COUNCIL WEBSITE OR FROM THE SIGN-UP SHEET AVAILABLE HERE IN THE CHAMBERS. WE WILL START WITH IN PERSON SPEAKERS FIRST. IF YOU HAVE NOT REGISTERED TO SPEAK, BUT WOULD LIKE TO, YOU CAN SIGN UP BY THE END OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD BY GOING TO THE COUNCIL'S WEBSITE OR STARTING UP ON THE SIGN-UP SHEET NEAR THE MICROPHONE. THE ONLINE LINK IS LISTED ON TODAY'S AGENDA. WHEN SPEAKING, PLEASE BEGIN BY STATING YOUR NAME AND THE ITEM YOU ARE ADDRESSING. SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A TIME WHEN 10 SECONDS ARE LEFT OF THE ALLOTTED TIME. SPEAKERS DO NOT END THE COMMENTS BY THE ALLOTTED TIME, THERE MICROPHONE WILL BE NEEDED TO ALLOW US TO CALL ON THE NEXT PERSON. >> AWESOME. AND FIRST SPEAKER UP, I'M ASSUMING IS MR. ZIMMERMAN. >> [ SPEAKING IN A NON-ENGLISH LANGUAGE ] MY NAME IS ALEX ZIMMERMAN, I SUPPORT TRUMP FOR 10 YEARS. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN MEMBER. I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT AGENDA, AND [ INAUDIBLE ] INVESTIGATION GOVERNMENT. [ INAUDIBLE ] NUMBER ONE, FOR 30 YEARS, I CANNOT FIND NO HONEST MAN WHO WORKED FOR GOVERNOR IN ALL THREE BRANCHES, NEVER SECOND, ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL. GOVERNMENT PEOPLE IN SEATTLE GIVE ME 6000 DAYS OF TRESPASS. I REPEAT THIS FOR IDIOTS WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? 6000 DAYS OF TRESPASS. [ INAUDIBLE ] TRANSPORTATION BOARD, [ INAUDIBLE ] FOR THREE YEARS, TRESPASS FOR THREE YEARS. SEATTLE AND SCHOOLBOARD, THREE TRESPASSES FOR THREE YEARS. AND ANOTHER HUNDRED TRESPASSERS. HOW AN AMERICAN CITIZEN CAN FEEL GOOD -- THREE TRESPASS FOR HUMAN? [ INAUDIBLE ] CRUCIFY US. BUT 6000 TRESPASSES [ INAUDIBLE ] VIVA TRUMP. VIVA AMERICAN REVOLUTION. >> NEXT SPEAKER. JUST FOR THE RECORD, THAT IS AN ANTI-SEMITIC REMARK THAT WAS REFERRED TO IN THE NAZI PARTY AND THAT IS WHAT YOU HEARD TODAY AT THE BEGINNING OF THESE PUBLIC COMMENTS. I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY THAT EVERY TIME MR. ZIMMERMAN DOES THAT SALUTE. NEXT SPEAKER ONLINE? >> WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER. ONCE I CALLED REMOTE SPEAKER'S NAME, STAFF WILL UNMUTE THE APPROPRIATE MICROPHONE, AND YOU HAVE BEEN UNMUTED WILL BE HEARD AS THE SPEAKERS SKU. DAVID HAYNES, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX. ACTUALLY, CHAIR, I SEE THAT OUR REMOTE SPEAKER IS NOT PRESENT. >> ONLINE COMMENTOR IS NOT PRESENT, YOU SAID? NO? OKAY. WELL, THAT WILL END OUR HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND WE WILL NOW JUMP INTO OUR ITEMS OF BUSINESS. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ AGENDA ITEM 1 TO THE RECORD? >> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, AUTHORIZING SEATTLE CITY LIGHT AND SEATTLE PUBLIC UTILITIES TO CONTINUE EXPANDING FUNDS TO PARTICIPATE, IN ENVIRONMENTAL INVESTIGATION AND REMEDIATION OF THE LOWER DUWAMISH WATERWAY SUPERFUND SITE, ACCORDING TO THE TERMS OF A CONSENT DEGREE WITH THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF WASHINGTON AND ACCORDING TO THE TERMS OF SETTLEMENTS WITH [ INAUDIBLE ] >> AWESOME, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE, REALLY APPRECIATE IT, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD AND YOU CAN JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO THE PRESENTATION. >> MY NAME IS [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> [ INAUDIBLE ] SEATTLE PUBLIC UTILITIES. >> THE LAURA [ INAUDIBLE ] CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. >> BRIAN [ INAUDIBLE ] >> THANK YOU CHAIR HOLLINGSWORTH AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. WE ARE HERE TO BRIEF YOU ON LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN MORE THAN TWO DECADES IN THE MAKING, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO COMMIT TO PAY FOR CLEANUP OF CONTAMINATED SETTLEMENTS IN THE LOWER DUWAMISH RIVER BEYOND THE BUDGET. BEFORE WE DIVE INTO DETAILS, I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH A STORY. AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, THE DUWAMISH RIVER OVERTOPPED ITS BANKS ON DECEMBER 27th, 2022, SENDING A DELUGE OF RIVER WATER INTO APPROXIMATELY 50 HOMES AND BUSINESSES. SPU WAS ONE OF THE FIRST RESPONDERS TO THE FLOODING AND WE SPENT MOST OF 2023 HELPING CUSTOMERS AND BUSINESSES RESTORE THEIR PROPERTIES FROM ALL THE FLOODING DAMAGE. IN EARLY JANUARY OF 2023, I WAS WALKING IN THE COMMUNITY, VISITING THE HOMES THAT HAD BEEN DAMAGED, AND TALKING TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN AFFECTED. I WAS STRUCK, THOUGH, BECAUSE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I REPEATEDLY WAS ASKED BY COMMUNITY WAS DO I NEED TO BE TESTING MY HOME FOR CONTAMINATED SETTLEMENTS? IS MY FAMILY NOW AT RISK FOR EXPOSURE TO PCBs? A KNOWN CARCINOGEN BECAUSE OF THE FLOODS? THE LOWER DUWAMISH RIVER IS AN AREA OF THE CITY THAT HAS LONG SUFFERED FROM ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ISSUES. THE HEALTH DISPARITIES IN THIS COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN WELL DOCUMENTED FOR MORE THAN A DECADE, INCLUDING THE DISPARITIES IN LIFE IN EXPECTANCY AND ASTHMA RATES. THERE ARE ALSO INFRASTRUCTURE DISPARITIES, AND THE TOPIC WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU TODAY, WHICH IS THE CONTAMINATED SEDIMENT. THE LOWER DUWAMISH WATERWAY HAS BEEN SEATTLE'S MAJOR CORRIDOR SINCE THE EARLY 1900s. THE RESULT OF THAT USE IS THE WATER WASTE SEDIMENTS ARE CONTAMINATED WITH MORE THAN CENTURY'S WORTH OF TOXIC CHEMICALS, CHEMICALS WHICH COME FROM MANY SOURCES, INCLUDED STORMWATER RUNOFF, WASTEWATER, AND INDUSTRIAL PRACTICES. SINCE THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION [ INAUDIBLE ] THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH KING COUNTY, THE PORT OF SEATTLE, AND THE BOEING COMPANY TO INVESTIGATE THE CONTAMINATION, CLEANUP HOTSPOTS, AND IMPLEMENT EPA'S CLEANUP PLAN FOR THE CONTAMINATION. SEATTLE CITY LIGHT AND SEATTLE PUBLIC UTILITIES EACH HAVE LIABILITY FOR THE TOXIC POLLUTION. SPU IS ACTING FOR THE DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY. LEGISLATION BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A COMBINATION OF MORE THAN TWO DECADES OF WORK TO ADDRESS THIS HISTORIC ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICE BUT I CAN'T IT PERSONALLY AS BOTH AN APPLICATION AND A PRIVILEGE TO BE TAKING PART IN THIS CLEANUP, WHICH IS MAKING RIGHT OVER A CENTURY OF POLLUTION THAT HAS AFFECTED THE COMMUNITY, THE ENVIRONMENT, AND THE TRIBES OF FISH ALONG THE DUWAMISH BEEN WITH ME TODAY ARE JASON HAMILTON, COMPLIANCE MANAGER, LAURA, THE DIRECTOR OF THE ENVIRONMENT SECTION IN THE SEATTLE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND ELLEN STEWART, WHO IS THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF [ INAUDIBLE ] . I WILL NOW TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO ELLEN STEWART, HE WILL PROVIDE YOU ON [ INAUDIBLE ] >> THANK YOU, ANDREW. IT IS NICE TO BE WITH YOU HERE TODAY. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT LEGISLATION SUPPORTING OUR EFFORTS TO CLEAN UP AND RESTORE THE LOWER DUWAMISH WATERWAY, WHICH IS A VITAL ECONOMIC, CULTURAL, AND ECOLOGICAL RESOURCE FOR SEATTLE. IT CONSISTS OF A FIVE MILE STRETCH BETWEEN HARBOUR ISLAND AND WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE TURNING BASIN NEAR SOUTHPARK. AS ANDREW MENTIONED, THIS RIVER IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITIES OF SOUTHPARK AND GEORGETOWN, WHO CALL THIS RIVER HOME. EPA LEAVES THE CLEANUP WORK UNDER THE FEDERAL SUPERFUND LAW, AND THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS SINCE THE YEAR 2000 TO COMPLETE INVESTIGATIONS, CONDUCT EARLY CLEANUP ACTIONS, FIND AND REMOVE BOTH HISTORICAL AND ONGOING SOURCES OF POLLUTION, AND DO ENGINEERING DESIGN WORK. LAST NOVEMBER, THE LOWER DUWAMISH WATERWAY GROUP, WHICH CONSISTS OF THE CITY, KING COUNTY, AND POET, A MAJOR MILESTONE, AND BEGAN THE FULL-SCALE CLEANUP OF THE RIVER. BEFORE DISCUSSING THE LEGISLATION ITSELF, I WOULD LIKE TO USE A FEW SLIDES TO RECAP WHY THE CITY IS INVOLVED, AND WHERE WE STAND NOW ON THIS IMPORTANT WORK. UNDER SUPERFUND CASE LAW, BOTH SPU AND SEATTLE CITY LIGHT HAVE SOME PORTION OF CLEANUP LIABILITY DUE TO THEIR UTILITY FUNCTIONS. SPU IS LIABLE DUE TO CONTAMINANTS AND HISTORIC COMBINED SEWER OVERFLOWS THAT DRAIN INTO THE RIVER, DISCHARGES FROM AN EARLY SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANTS, AND CONTAMINANTS AND STORMWATER THAT PASS THROUGH OUR SYSTEM AS THEY DRAIN INTO THE RIVER. SEATTLE CITY LIGHT IS LIABLE DUE TO OWNERSHIP OF SITES WHERE CONTAMINANTS MAY HAVE BEEN RELEASED, AND OWNERSHIP OF TRANSFORMERS DISTRIBUTED AT MULTIPLE LOCATIONS. BASED ON INTERNAL ASSESSMENTS THE CITY HAS DONE, THE UTILITIES WILL SPLIT ITS SHARE OF THE CITY'S COST, 85% TO SPU, AND 15% TO SEATTLE CITY LIGHT. BOTH DEPARTMENTS USE RATEPAYER FUNDS TO COVER THE COSTS OF THEIR LIABILITY. IN OTHER WORDS, NO GENERAL FUNDS ARE USED AND THESE COSTS ARE FACTORED INTO OUR RATE PROJECTIONS FOR BOTH DEPARTMENTS. THE REASON THAT THE LOWER DUWAMISH WATERWAY IS A SUPERFUND SITE IS THAT INDUSTRIAL CONTAMINANTS HAVE ACCUMULATED IN MY , OR AS WE CALL THEM, SEDIMENTS, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE WATERWAY. THESE CONTAMINANTS WORK THEIR WAY UP THE FOOD CHAIN , AND THE MAIN RISK IS TO PEOPLE WHO MAY EAT RESIDENT SEAFOOD FROM THE LOWER DUWAMISH WATERWAY. AND THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE DESPITE OUR BEST EDUCATION EFFORTS, WE KNOW THAT FISHING STILL EXISTS IN THIS RIVER FOR NEARBY RESIDENTS. THE MAJOR CONTAMINANTS OF CONCERN ARE INDUSTRIAL CHEMICALS, PARTICULARLY PCBs, ARSENIC, AND DIOXINS AND FUEL RODS, WHICH ARE ALL ASSOCIATED WITH INDUSTRIAL USE. SALMON ARE SAFE TO EAT WITHIN THEIR SUGGESTED LIMITS, BECAUSE THEY MIGRATE THROUGH THE RIVER, AND THERE ARE ACTIVE RECREATIONAL AND TRIBAL FISHERIES FOR SALMON IN THE RIVER. IN 2014 AFTER EXTENSIVE STUDIES AND PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, EPA DECIDED ON THE CLEANUP FOR THE LOWER DUWAMISH. THE EPA PROCESS AND OUR OWN OUTREACH EFFORTS HAVE PROVIDED EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DURING THIS PROCESS. MOST AREAS THAT REQUIRE CLEANUP WILL BE DREDGED TO REMOVE THE CONTAMINATED MATERIAL FROM THE RIVER BOTTOM . SOME AREAS WILL BE CAPPED WITH CLEAN GRAVEL AND SAND AND ROCK, AND THE ENTIRE SITE WILL BE MONITORED WELL INTO THE FUTURE. THE EXACT AREAS THAT WILL BE CLEANED UP WILL BE DETERMINED DURING THE ENGINEERING DESIGN PROCESS. AND EPA HAS DIVIDED THIS FIVE-MILE STRETCH THAT I TALKED ABOUT INTO THREE REACHES FOR CLEANUP, AND THE CLEANUP WILL START UPSTREAM, AND THEN WORK ITS WAY DOWNSTREAM, AND IT IS PHASED IN THIS WAY, SO WE AVOID RE-CONTAMINATION AS WE WORK DOWNRIVER. THE UPPER REACH DESIGN PROCESS WAS COMPLETED IN 2023, AND WE BEGAN THE THREE-YEAR CLEANUP OF THAT SECTION LAST NOVEMBER. AND IT TAKES THREE YEARS BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY OPERATE AND TO CLEANUP OPERATIONS DURING THE FISH WINDOW, WHICH IS FROM OCTOBER TO FEBRUARY OF EACH YEAR. WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL TO PROTECT SPAWNING SALMON IN THE RIVER. I THEN DESIGNED FOR THAT MIDDLE REACH SHOULD BE COMPLETE IN 2027, AND THEN DESIGNED FOR THE LOWER REACH STARTS THIS YEAR. WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS MAJOR MILESTONE AND THE RESTORATION OF THE RIVER. THE COMMUNITY HAS BORNE THE BRUNT OF THE IMPACTS OF THIS POLLUTION FOR DECADES, AND THEY HAVE PATIENTLY WAITED FOR THIS LONG PROCESS TO UNFOLD . AND FULL CLEANUP CONSTRUCTION WILL TAKE ABOUT 10 YEARS. ON THE MAP HERE, YOU WILL SEE THE ORANGE AREAS IN THE UPPER REACH OF THE RIVER, WHICH ARE THE AREAS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DREDGING, AND ON THE RIGHT THERE, YOU WILL SEE THE DREDGING OF EQUIPMENT THAT WAS WORKING IN THAT SECTION OF THE RIVER LAST NOVEMBER, THAT'S WHAT THE OPERATION ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE. THE CLEANUP PROCESS IS THE CULMINATION OF A 25 YEAR PROCESS THAT HAS INVOLVED CLEANING UP HOTSPOTS, IDENTIFYING SOURCES OF HISTORICAL AND ONGOING POLLUTION, AND WORKING ON THE REMEDIATION DESIGN. PERSONALLY, I STARTED MY CAREER AT THE CITY 24 YEARS AGO AS AN INSPECTOR, IDENTIFYING SOME OF THESE SOURCES OF POLLUTION TO THE DUWAMISH RIVER, AND IT IS PERSONALLY FULFILLING TO SEE THE CLEANUP FINALLY HAPPENING FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND FOR THE CITY. TO THIS POINT, THE CITY , KING COUNTY, AND BOEING HAVE WORKED UNDER A UNILATERAL ORDER FROM THE EPA. THIS WILL CHANGE WHEN WE SIGN THE CONSENT DECREE FOR THE FULL CLEANUP. WHILE ALL THE SETTLING PARTIES WILL SIGN THE CONSENT DECREE, ONLY THREE, THE CITY, KING COUNTY, AND BOEING WILL BE THE PERFORMING PARTIES WHO WILL ACTUALLY DO THE CLEANUP WORK. THE LEGISLATION THAT YOU WILL BE ASKED TO APPROVE OFFERS THE CITY BENEFITS THAT WE DON'T HAVE UNDER THE UNILATERAL ORDER. AND THESE BENEFITS INCLUDE PROTECTION FROM LAWSUITS AND THE RECEIPT OF SETTLEMENT FUNDS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO NEGOTIATE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. THE CITY WILL RECEIVE $88 MILLION IN THE SETTLEMENT FUNDS. EPA HAS AGREED TO WAIVE $10.5 MILLION IN OVERSIGHT COSTS, AND THEN WE WILL ALSO RECEIVE $5.5 MILLION FOR COSTS INCURRED TO DATE. THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOT BEING ASKED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT TO CREATE OR THE SETTLEMENTS, BECAUSE THAT AUTHORITY, THE CHARTER GIVES THAT AUTHORITY TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THE COUNCIL IS BEING ASKED TO AUTHORIZE SPU AND SEATTLE CITY LIGHT TO SPEND MONEY IN AMOUNTS AND IN YEARS THAT GO BEYOND OUR CURRENT BUDGET CYCLE. AND STATE LAW PROVIDES THAT THE LEGISLATURE OF A CITY MAY AUTHORIZE BY ENACTING AN ORDINANCE, PUBLIC UTILITIES TO MAKE EXPENDITURES NOT CONTEMPLATED IN THEIR ANNUAL BUDGET. AND FOR A MOMENT, LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE. THE EPA HAS ESTIMATED THAT OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS, THOSE COSTS WILL BE $667 MILLION, THAT IS IN '23 DOLLARS. WE THINK THOSE COSTS ARE CLOSER TO $750 MILLION, AND THAT IS IN 20 $24, AND THOSE COSTS ARE DIVIDED BY THE THREE PERFORMING PARTIES THAT I TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY. BOEING AT 53.6%, THE CITY AT 31.5%, AND KING COUNTY AT 14.9%, AND THOSE PERCENTAGES ARE DERIVED FROM THE RELATIVE CONTRIBUTION TO POLLUTION IN THE RIVER. THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF THE CONTAMINATION IN THE RIVER AND THEY WILL PAY $140 MILLION, THAT WAS ACHIEVED THROUGH SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATIONS. AND THEN WE HAVE 39 OTHER SMALL PARTIES THAT WILL COLLECTIVELY PAY $141 MILLION, THAT WAS ALSO ACHIEVED THROUGH SETTLEMENT. AND FINALLY, WE HAVE ONE PARTY LOOMING WILL PAY $1 MILLION ANNUALLY, RATHER THAN A LUMP SUM. OKAY, SO THE CHART ON THE LEFT HERE DEPICTS THE FUNDING SPLITS AMONG THE THREE PARTIES THAT I JUST SHARED, WITH THE CITY SHARE, WHICH IS 31.5%, EQUALING ABOUT $238 MILLION, AND AGAIN, THAT SPLIT IS 85% SPU AND 15% SEATTLE CITY LIGHT. AND THEN MOVING ALONG, TO THE CHART ON THE RIGHT OF THAT, $238 MILLION, YOU CAN SEE THE $88 MILLION IN SETTLEMENT FUNDS. OUR PORTION OF THAT, AND THE $11 MILLION IN WAIVED EPA COSTS. THE REMAINING BALANCE IS ELIGIBLE FOR STATE GRANTS UNDER THE MODEL TOXINS CONTROL ACT, AT UP TO A 50% MATCH. AND IF WE GET THE SIX -- 50% MATCH, THEN THE CITY'S NET COST WOULD BE ABOUT $70 MILLION. NOW, THESE COSTS HAVE BEEN CALMING, WE KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN COMING FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS, AND THEY ARE INCLUDED IN BOTH UTILITIES BUDGETS, AND IN OUR BREAK REJECTIONS AND BREAK PAST US. THEY ARE DERIVED FROM REVENUE FUNDS, ONCE AGAIN, AND DO NOT COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND AT ALL. YOU ALSO MAY REMEMBER THAT LAST YEAR, WE ACHIEVED A GROUNDBREAKING SETTLEMENT WITH MONSANTO CORPORATION, WHO PRODUCED PCBs IN THE PAST. SOME OF THAT SETTLEMENT WILL BE USED FOR THE CLEANUP ITSELF, AND THEN OTHER PARTS OF THAT SETTLEMENT WILL BE USED FOR PROJECTS ALONG THE RIVER, TO DO WATER QUALITY TREATMENT AND OTHER PROJECTS , AND WE ARE ESPECIALLY GRATEFUL TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE IN SECURING THIS SETTLEMENT FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR RATEPAYERS. SO, FINALLY, RIGHT NOW, ALL THE PARTIES HAVE SIGNED THE CONSENT DECREE AND THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS. THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE GAVE PRELIMINARY APPROVAL, THAT WAS UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. ONCE THE LEGISLATION IS PASSED AT CITY AND KING COUNTY, WE WILL SIGN THE CONSENT DECREE AND IT WILL GO BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR FINAL APPROVAL. IT WILL THEN BE FILED WITH THE COURT, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND ULTIMATELY, IT WILL BE LODGED WITH THE COURT FOR FINAL APPROVAL, WHICH IS WHEN THOSE SETTLEMENTS WILL TAKE EFFECT AND WE WILL RECEIVE THOSE PROTECTIONS THAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE TODAY. LAURA, JASON, AND I ARE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY WESTERNS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THIS PROCESS. THANK YOU. >> ALSO, WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. I ALSO KNOW THAT COUNCILMEMBERS HAD BEEN BRIEFED ABOUT SOME OF THIS, AND WE HAD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION REGARDING SOME STUFF AS WELL, SO JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PREPARATION AND STUFF. I DON'T KNOW -- I KNOW A LOT OF QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED WHEN WE DID HAVE OUR SESSION, BUT IF THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT HAVE -- COLLEAGUES THAT MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS -- I SEE COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS WITH HIS LEFT HAND RAISED. OR RIGHT HAND. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS LEFT OR RIGHT. >> IT IS A DIGITAL HAND AS WELL. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO ASK POLICY QUESTIONS IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, BECAUSE IT WAS RELATED ONLY TO MATTERS THAT WE WON'T BE DISCUSSING TODAY. SO, I DID SAVE SOME OF MY QUESTIONS FOR YOU TODAY. AND ONE OF THEM -- BEFORE I JUMP IN, DIRECTOR LEE , YOU BROUGHT UP THE WORK THAT HAD BEEN ACCOMPLISHED IN SOUTH PARK. SOME TIME AGO WHEN THE RIVER OVERFLOWED THE BANKS. AND SO, WE CAN SAY THOSE WORDS WITHOUT ALSO THINKING WALTER AND HIS ENTIRE TEAM. I KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN FIRST RESPONDERS ALSO IN MY DISTRICT , DURING THAT SAME TIME PERIOD. BUT CAN'T LET THE MOMENT GO WITHOUT SAYING THANK YOU TO WALTER AND HIS ENTIRE TEAM. DIVING INTO THIS PRESENTATION HERE, THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ABOUT THE SECTIONS OF MONITORING IN PLACE TREATMENT OR DREDGING , SOME OF THOSE COLORED BOXES ARE -- THEY LOOK TO ME TO BE OVERLAPPING. WE KNOW THAT LINES IN THE DIRT ARE MADE BY PEOPLE AND THAT THE WORLD AND THE EARTH WORKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, MAYBE WITHOUT THOSE BOUNDARIES. HOW WERE THOSE DECISIONS MADE? I'M LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT -- I'M SORRY, I JUST LOST THE POWERPOINT ON MY SIDE, SO I'M GOING TO BRING IT RIGHT BACK UP. THE SLIDE WITH KELLOGG ISLAND IN IT. I SEE JUST NORTH OF KELLOGG ISLAND , IN PLACE TREATMENT NEXT TO A MONITORED, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO A DREDGE WITH SOME MONITORING AREAS IN THERE. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GIVE YOU THIS QUESTION AHEAD OF TIME, BUT HOW DID WE COME TO THOSE DECISIONS? >> SO, THE QUESTION IS -- >> YOU HAVE GOT TO REALLY PUT THE MICROPHONE UP CLOSE TO YOU. >> SO, YEARS. AND YEARS OF STUDY AND WORK AND -- WHICH INCLUDED PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, AND TO -- WITH MULTIPLE DIFFERENT REMEDIES , SUGGESTED THE EPA, AND THIS BEING WHAT WAS LANDED UPON BY ALL THE EXPERTS. >> MAY I DID A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, PUN INTENDED HERE? WHICH IS TO SAY, WAS THERE A POINT -- POLLUTION THAT WAS COMING FROM A POINT SOURCE OR WAS DISTRIBUTED -- BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THIS -- YOU KNOW, I AM LOOKING DIRECTLY NORTH OF KELLOGG ISLAND WHERE WE HAVE LIGHT BLUE, ORANGE, LIGHT GREEN, DARK GREEN. ALL IN WHAT LOOKS TO BE -- I'VE GOT TO ZOOM IN TO SEE THE RATIO HERE. IT LOOKS LIKE ALL WITHIN ABOUT 500 FEET. HOW ARE WE DEFINING THOSE -- I KNOW THAT THERE IS SCIENCE THAT BACKS ALL OF THIS UP, I KNOW THE EPA HAS A PROCESS, I'M JUST TRYING TO LEARN A LITTLE MORE ABOUT HOW DO WE COME TO THAT DETERMINATION AND HOW ARE WE -- FROM A LAYPERSON STANDPOINT, IF AN AREA NEEDS TO BE DREDGE, HOW IS THERE A MONITORING AREA DIRECTLY ADJACENT? >> SO, THERE HAS BEEN EXTENSIVE MONITORING THAT HAPPENS TO DETERMINE WHERE THOSE HOTSPOTS ARE, THAT IS DONE BY THE EPA. AND SO, THEY DO THE MONITORING ALL ALONG THE RIVER TO DETERMINE WHERE THE HOTSPOTS ARE AND WHAT REMEDIES WILL BE BEST TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. THE EXACT BORDERS AND AREAS OF THE DREDGING AND CAPPING WILL BE DETERMINED DURING THE ENGINEERING PROCESS, AND THEN THE MONITORING, IT IS SORT OF AN ITERATIVE PROCESS, WHERE THAT WILL GO ON FOR MANY YEARS, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE GOT ALL OF THE CONTAMINATION, AND SO, THAT MONITORING WILL BE WELL INTO THE FUTURE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THE POLLUTION TAKEN CARE OF. >> THANKS. >> IF I MAY -- HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, I THINK DREDGING, WHICH IS DIGGING UP THE CONTAMINATED SEDIMENT AND MOVING IT, TAKING IT OFF TO HAZARDOUS LANDFILL, WAS OFTENTIMES VIEWED AS OPTIMAL, YOU KNOW, THE PRIMARY, KIND OF BEST REMEDIATION IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS. OVER TIME, THOUGH, STUDIES HAVE ACTUALLY SHOWN THAT WHEN YOU DIG UP ALL OF THAT DEBRIS, IT ACTUALLY RELEASES A LOT OF THOSE CHEMICALS INTO THE WATERWAY, AND FOR EVEN A SHORT PERIOD, THE LEVELS OF THE WATERWAY ARE ACTUALLY REALLY ELEVATED, RIGHT? THAT COULD BE EVEN MORE HARMFUL TO THE FISH AND THE ENVIRONMENT. AND SO, OVER TIME, THEY HAVE LOOKED AT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES TO REMEDIATE THE SOIL. AND SOMETIMES WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS, YES, THE OPTIMAL WAY IS TO DIG IT UP AND REMOVE IT, HENCE THE DREDGING, BUT ANOTHER WAY [ INAUDIBLE ] NATURAL RECOVERY, JUST SIMPLY LETTING OVER TIME THE NATURAL SEDIMENT THAT SIMPLY MOVES ALONG THE RIVER BED WILL ACTUALLY PROTECT THE SOILS AND WILL PROTECT THAT LAYER OF CONTAMINATED SOIL FROM GETTING TO THE SERVICE. IN OTHER CASES, CAPPING IT, ADDING A LAYER OF SOIL ON TOP OF IT IS ACTUALLY THE OPTIMAL WAY, AND LEAVING THE CONTAMINATED SEDIMENT BELOW. IN ALL THESE DIFFERENT SITUATIONS, WE HAVE STANDARDS THAT EPA HAS GIVEN US, AND THOSE STANDARDS ARE WHAT WE ARE ULTIMATELY TRYING TO COMPLY WITH. IT IS HIGHLY KIND OF ENGINEERED BASED ON SPECIFIC SITE CONDITIONS BUT I WILL SAY, THE OTHER FACTOR THAT IS IN THIS IS THIS IS A WATERWAY THAT IS USED FOR SHIPS, AND SO, WE WILL FIND THAT IN SOME CASES, BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE CERTAIN DEBTS REMOVED, SOMETIMES WE DO NEED TO DO DREDGING, WHETHER OR NOT IT IS OPTIMAL. THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT GO INTO IT, BUT THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE IS TO HIT OUR LEVELS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO HIT [ INAUDIBLE ] >> THANK YOU. SO, WITH THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, AS I AM LOOKING AT THE LIGHT GREEN AND BLUE, IT SAYS TO ME THAT IF THINGS CHANGE IN THE COURSE OF REMEDIATION , THOSE AREAS WILL BE REMEDIATED , AND THAT WILL BE CHANGED TO A DARK GREEN OR AN ORANGE. AND PART OF THE QUESTION THAT YOU ANSWERED FOR ME WAS STARTING UPSTREAM, WORKING DOWNSTREAM . IT IS LIKE WHEN YOU SWEEP THE STEPS, YOU START AT THE TOP AND YOU SWEEP DOWN, BECAUSE YOU ALREADY ANSWER THE QUESTION AGAIN, BUT AS YOU ARE DOING THIS WORK, ARE MORE OF THE PROBLEMS COMING TO THE SURFACE? >> WE ALSO HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVE BRIDGES ON THE DUWAMISH, AND THERE ARE SOME PLACES WHERE WE JUST CANNOT DREDGE BECAUSE THE BRIDGES ARE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS THERE, SO IN THOSE CASES, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO THE REMEDIES AND WE MAY NEED TO SORT OF WORK WITHIN THAT AS WELL. SO, THOSE ARE ALSO FACTORS IN WHAT THE REMEDIES ARE. >> THANK YOU, AND LAST QUESTION ON HERE, WHERE DOES THE DREDGED SOIL GO? DO WE HAVE A LOCATION OR JUST A TOXIC LANDFILL? >> JUST TO A LANDFILL. >> OKAY. HOPEFULLY WE WON'T -- LOOKING AT YOU, CHAIR JOY, HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE SENDING IT TO OREGON, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MOST OF IT GOES. SORRY, I CAN WRAP UP IF YOU WANT. HAVE WE -- PUTTING ON MY CHAIR OF THE NATIVE COMMUNITIES AND TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS HAT, HAVE WE [ INAUDIBLE ] WITH FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED TRIBES THAT HAVE TREATY RIGHTS WITH THE CITY? X YES, WE HAVE, THAT IS DONE THROUGH THE EPA OFFICIALLY, AND WE WERE PARTNERS WITH THEM WHERE THE TRIBES WANTED US TO BE PARTNERS, AND HAD MEETINGS WITH THE TRIBES , WHERE THEY WANTED US TO JOIN THOSE, SO THE TRIBES ARE PART OF THAT PARTICIPATION PROCESS. >> FANTASTIC, THANK YOU. LAST QUESTION, CHAIR LAURA, DURING OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION, YOU PROVIDED A DEEP BACKGROUND THAT WAS ALL REGARDING THE LEGAL ASPECT, BECAUSE YOU ARE A LAWYER. I WAS HUMBLED BY THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND THE LONGEVITY AND THE HISTORY THAT YOU HAVE WITH THIS PROJECT. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD SHARE -- THIS IS REAL SOFTBALL FOR YOU, BUT ANYTHING YOU THINK WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF OR IS THERE ANYTHING FROM -- MY COLLEAGUES ALL JOKE HERE, EVEN THOUGH I AM ONE OF THE YOUNGER MEMBERS, THEY CALL ME THE HISTORIAN, SO FROM ONE HISTORIAN TO ANOTHER, ANYTHING WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT OR ANYTHING WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT? >> I GUESS I WOULD EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF CONTINUING TO CONTROL ONGOING SOURCES OF CONTAMINANTS. THE SPU HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, A LEADER NATIONWIDE IN ITS SOURCE CONTROL PROGRAM, AND THAT NEEDS TO CONTINUE AND EVEN EXPAND, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THE BEST WE POSSIBLY CAN TO PREVENT CONTAMINANTS CONTINUING TO GOING TO THE WATERWAY. >> ON THAT, IS IT THAT WE HAVE CURRENT OINTMENT SOURCES THAT ARE NOT BEING MITIGATED? >> IT IS NOT A POINT SOURCE. IF IT WERE A POINT SOURCE, IT WOULD BE EASY, WE COULD JUST GO THERE AND FIX IT. THE PROBLEM IS THAT SOME OF THESE CONTAMINANTS LIKE PCBs HAVE BECOME UBIQUITOUS. THEY FALL FROM THE SKY, THEY ARE BLOWN AROUND THE WORLD IN WINDS, AND THEY GET INTO OUR STORMWATER, AND WE CAN'T GO TO A PARTICULAR PLACE IN ORDER TO STOP THAT. IT HAS TO BE DONE WITH THE STORM WATER ITSELF. SO, I KNOW ANDREW AND ELLEN ARE ON TOP OF IT. I JUST WOULD SAY , FROM THE COUNCIL'S PERSPECTIVE, IT IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT TO KEEP DOING. >> THAT IS REALLY HELPFUL, BECAUSE IT REMINDS ME THAT THESE WATERS -- WHEN WE LOOK OUT TO THIS DAY, I USED TO ALL BE TIDELAND. IT USED TO ALL BE BRAIDS OF THE RIVER EXTENDING INTO WHAT IS NOW CALLED ELLIOTT BAY, AND THROUGH THE COURSE OF THIS SLIDE, WE CAN SAY WE HAVE CHANNELED THIS WATER IN SUCH A WAY. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT IF WE THINK OF RIVER DELTAS, THERE LIKE THE LUNGS OF THE RIVER. AND WE CONSTRAIN THESE LOANS, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. IF IT WAS POINT SOURCE, IT WOULD BE AN EASY REMINDER, BECAUSE I THINK OF PROGRAMS LIKE AT GREEN LAKE RIGHT NOW, AND I KNOW SPU HAS DONE SOME OTHER FLOATING WETLANDS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO CLEAN THE WATER FROM THESE NON-POINT SOURCE CONTAMINANTS. >> CHAIR, I WOULD JUST GIVE YOU ONE EDITORIAL AND I WILL BE DONE. IN MY OFFICE THIS MORNING, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW WE GOT ON THE CONVERSATION, BUT JUST THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED WITH THE DUWAMISH RIVER, [ INAUDIBLE ] PROSPEROUS SALMON RUNS, WHEN WE CLOSED OFF THE BLACK RIVER, WE CHANNELED THE SALMON THROUGH THE ROCKS AND THE SHIP CANAL, WHICH HAS CREATED ITS OWN ISSUES. AND THEN FURTHERMORE, THE WHITE RIVER WAS RE-CHANNELIZED TO TACOMA RATHER THAN COMING THROUGH THE DUWAMISH. AND WHILE THAT MIGHT NOT SEEM LIKE A BIG DEAL, WHAT IT HAS DONE IS IT HAS DECREASED -- OR IT HAS INCREASED THE WATER TEMPERATURES, MAKING SALMON SURVIVAL HARDER. SO, BEYOND ALL OF THIS POLLUTION THAT IS HERE, WE HAVE RE-CHANNELIZED THE SALMON RUN, WE HAVE MADE THE CURRENT SALMON RUN MORE DIFFICULT, AND THANKFULLY, WE ARE WORKING ON THIS POLLUTION RIGHT NOW. JUST BEYOND ALSO PAVING OVER THE RIVER DELTA. SO, ALL OF THESE THINGS COMBINED IS JUST A REFLECTION ON HOW DIFFICULT WE HAVE MADE IT FOR THE SALMON. THERE IS NO QUESTION THERE, IT WAS JUST A DISCUSSION WE WERE HAVING AD HOC IN MY OFFICE THIS MORNING, SO I THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE AS WELL. THANK YOU, JERRY, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK, YOU ARE MAKING A GENERATIONAL CHANGE. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS PAID AND FOR THE RECORD, COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA IS HERE AND PRESENT IN BODY AND SPIRIT ONLINE AS WELL. ALSO, DID NOT KNOW THAT LANDFILLS HAVE -- THEY HAVE A TIME SPAN, LIKE A LIFESPAN. SO, MAYBE WE WON'T BE SENDING MOST OF OUR TRASH TO OREGON AFTER 20 OR 30 YEARS. BUT WE ARE GOING TO KEEP SENDING IT THERE, COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR HOLLINGSWORTH, I'M NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON THAT LAST POINT AT ALL. I JUST WANTED TO THANK MR. LEE AND ALSO MS. STEWART FROM SPU FOR BEING HERE, MR. HAMILTON. AND [ INAUDIBLE ] FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND OF COURSE, MR. GOOD NIGHT FROM OUR OWN CENTRAL STUFF. THANK YOU BOTH FOR THIS BRIEFING AND THE BRIEFING THAT WE GOT, AS MENTIONED EARLIER. MR. LEE, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU SPECIFICALLY FOR YOUR COMMENTS ON ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, AND WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS AREA OF THE CITY. I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT. AND TIED TO THAT, SADLY, THE EPA, UNDER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, IS SHUTTING DOWN ALL THE EPA ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE OFFICES, I BELIEVE 168 PEOPLE ARE BEING FIRED WITHOUT CAUSE, I SHOULD ADD. AND WITHOUT ANY LONG-TERM THOUGHT BEHIND IT. UM, SPEAKING OF LONG-TERM , AND BY THE WAY, MY NOTES ARE HERE, ALREADY WRITTEN BEFORE MY COLLEAGUE WAS MENTIONING ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN TO THE DUWAMISH LONGHOUSE AND TALKED WITH THEM , TALKING ABOUT THE DUWAMISH . I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE MUCKLESHOOT RELATED TO THE WHITE RIVER POINT THAT WAS MADE. AGAIN, I HAD WRITTEN THIS DOWN BEFORE MY COLLEAGUE STARTED SPEAKING TO THE SPIT AND THEN THE GREEN RIVER PIECE, TO BID ALTHOUGH I DID NOT WRITE DOWN BLACK RIVER, BUT WE WILL ADD IT HERE. AND YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES, WE DO THESE ACKNOWLEDGMENTS AND THEY ARE KIND OF WRITTEN TO BE [ INAUDIBLE ] HEY, IT IS KIND OF EMPTY, BUT THIS IS A TIME, THIS IS A TOPIC WHERE THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT IS REALLY THAT MUCH MORE IMPORTANT, AND BASED ON THOSE DISCUSSIONS THAT I HAVE HAD WITH THE DUWAMISH AT THE LONGHOUSE AND THE MUCKLESHOOT, RELATED TO THE RIVERS, IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO WORK WITH THE TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS , WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS THROUGH THE EPA, BUT WE HAVE AN INDIGENOUS ADVISORY COUNCIL, SO THERE IS NO REASON WHY POTENTIALLY WE COULD DO SOME WORK IN THAT AREA AS WELL. AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND. WE ARE GOING BACK ON HISTORY IN TERMS OF INDUSTRIALIZATION OF THE DUWAMISH RIVER, BUT WE REALLY AS A CITY,, REALLY SHOULD BE GOING BACK FURTHER AND UNDERSTANDING HOW DID WE GET HERE? HOW DO WE GET HERE IS NOT RELATED TO BOEING OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND POLLUTANTS COMING IN, WE REALLY SHOULD BE THINKING LONGER TERM THAN THAT. UM, AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK MISS [ INAUDIBLE ] FOR SETTING UP MY NEXT QUESTION. WHICH IS ALREADY HERE, BUT THAT BRIDGE. SO, I WILL CROSS IT. AND IT WAS RELATED TO YOUR POINT ABOUT ONGOING SOURCE OF CONTAMINANTS. AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE PIECE , MR. LEE, FROM A BROADER PERSPECTIVE, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE OTHER CHALLENGES, THE ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE FACING IN THIS AREA? CAN YOU SPEAK TO OUR CSO'S, COMBINED SEWER, STORMWATER OUTFLOWS? I KNOW THERE'S ONE WEST , AND FOUR TO THE EAST, ALONG THE EAST CHANNEL. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT AND THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE? AND I UNDERSTAND NOT EVERYTHING IS FINAL, SO YOU CAN TAILOR YOUR ANSWER IN TERMS OF SPECIFICITY TO WHAT YOU THINK IS APPROPRIATE BASED ON YOUR UNDERSTANDING. BUT CAN YOU SPEAK TO BASICALLY THE POINT RAISED REGARDING ONGOING SOURCES OF CONTAMINANTS? >> YEAH, AND I'M GOING TO ALSO LET ELLEN STEWART, WHO IS ACTUALLY FAR MORE OF AN EXPERT ON THIS THAN I AM, BUT I WILL START OFF AT A HIGH LEVEL. YOU KNOW, WHENEVER IT RAINS, THERE ARE PCBs OR OTHER CHEMICALS ON THE LENS OR THE BUILDINGS THAT CONSIST IN OUR CITY. THOSE CHEMICALS ARE GOING TO FALL AND GET INTO OUR WATERWAYS ULTIMATELY. WE HAVE TWO TYPES OF SYSTEMS, WE HAVE A SEPARATE STORMWATER SYSTEM, THAT WE HAVE A WASTEWATER SYSTEM, AND FOR THE MOST PART IN THIS AREA, THAT WASTEWATER SYSTEM IS A COMBINED SEWER SYSTEM. AND SO, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE TWO SYSTEMS THAT CONTRIBUTE THE MOST CHEMICALS. A SEPARATE STORMWATER SYSTEM, AND THEN OUR COMBINED SYSTEM. WE HAVE OPTIONS IN TERMS OF HOW WE ADDRESS THE POLLUTANTS BEFORE THEY GET INTO THE WATERWAYS. THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE, ALWAYS, IS GOING TO BE WHAT WE CALL SOURCE CONTROL , WHICH IS GET THE POLLUTANTS OUT, EVEN BEFORE THEY WHAT YOU MANUFACTURE, RIGHT? YOU GUYS ARE MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THE TIRE COMPOUNDS. THERE HAS BEEN FOUND IN RUBBER, AND IT LEADS TO EARLY MORTALITY FOR CERTAIN SPECIES OF SALMON. AND SO, THAT IS STILL FOUND IN ALL OF OUR TIRES RIGHT NOW. THE BEST WAY TO GET RID OF THAT IS NOT TO TREAT IT AT THE END, BACKSTAGE REMOVE IT FROM THE MANUFACTURING PROCESS, PERIOD. SO, WE HAVE ACTIVE KIND OF EFFORTS AND WORK WITH THE STATE TO TRY TO SEE IF THERE ALL -- THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO GET THEM OUT OF THE OTHER WAY THHAVE IS IF IT IS STILL IN THE SYSTEM, SOMETIMES IT HAS ALREADY BEEN MANUFACTURED, SOMETIMES IT IS IN THE PAINT OF WINDOWS, MAYBE THE ROOFTOPS, THEN WE HAVE WAYS TO WORK WITH THE BUILDING OWNERS TO ACTUALLY TRY TO REMOVE IT FROM THE BUILDING, AND SO, THERE ARE REMEDIATION PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON. FOR EXAMPLE, I BELIEVE EPA HAS ONE RIGHT NOW AT THE RAINIER BUILDING. RAINIER BREWERY. SO, LITERALLY, THEY REMEDIATE THE ENTIRE BUILDING. THEY TAKE OUT AND THEY MIGHT SANDBLAST THE PAINT TO REMOVE IT IF IT HAS PCBs, AND WE HAVE EFFORTS TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE SOURCE IS. FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IS HOW THE RAINIER BREWERY WAS IDENTIFIED. IN OTHER CASES, THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A TRANSFORMER THAT WAS SPELLED, THE FLUID INSIDE THE TRANSFORMER, THAT LED TO A HIGH INCIDENT PCBs, SO [ INAUDIBLE ], WE WORK TO CLEAN THAT UP. IF WE HAVE EXHAUSTED ALL OF THESE SOURCE CONTROL AND MANUFACTURING KIND OF WAYS OF REMOVING THE CHEMICALS, THEN I WOULD SAY OUR LAST KIND OF LINE OF DEFENSE IS THE TREATMENT AT THE END. THERE ARE GENERALLY TWO TYPES OF TREATMENT THAT WE DO, MAYBE THREE, ONE IS GREEN STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, WHERE WE ARE ROUTING THE STORM WATER, FOR EXAMPLE, IN TWO BIO RETENTION FILTERS, AND THAT IS A WONDERFUL WAY, BECAUSE AS AN ECOLOGICAL BENEFIT, AND IT PROVIDES THE GREENING OF OUR CITY. THE OTHER , WHEN WE HAVE HUGE VOLUMES, THEN WE NEED TO TREAT IT AT THE END OF THE PIPE, AND THAT CAN TAKE MULTIPLE FORMS, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TREATMENT FACILITIES THAT ARE LARGE. WE ARE PLANNING ON BUILDING ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE SOUTH PARK AREA BY 2030. THE GEORGETOWN FACILITY THAT I THINK YOU VISITED, THAT IS OWNED BY THE KING COUNTY WASTEWATER TREATMENT DIVISION, AND THAT IS ANOTHER TYPE OF TREATMENT FACILITY. AND WE MAY BE LOOKING AT PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS ON KING COUNTY'S PLANNING, PLANNING ON BUILDING A VERY LARGE FACILITY. [ INAUDIBLE ] AND THAT MAY BE ONE WHERE WE LOOK AT A PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY TO TREAT SOME STORM WATER IN THAT FACILITY AT THE SAME TIME AS WE ARE TREATING THE COMBINED SEWAGE. SO, THAT KIND OF PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF ALL THE TYPES OF THINGS WE NEED TO DO TO ADDRESS RE-CONTAMINATION. [ INAUDIBLE ] >> AND THE LAST ONE RELATES TO THE EAST CHANNEL AND THE FOUR CSOS ALONG ESSENTIALLY SOTO. >> YEAH, THE EAST WATERWAY -- YES, THAT BIG -- AGAIN, [ INAUDIBLE ] , THAT IS GOING TO BE A MULTIBILLION-DOLLAR PROJECT THAT THE COUNTY WILL BE IMPLEMENTING. I BELIEVE THEIR DATE OF COMPLETION IS 2035, POSSIBLY 2033, I'M JUST NOT REMEMBERING MY DATES WELL. '35, OKAY. AND I THINK THE ESTIMATES ON THAT ARE ABOUT A $3.3 BILLION FACILITY, SO IT WILL BE INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE, BUT IT WILL TREAT OVER 1 BILLION GALLONS OF COMBINED SEWAGE A YEAR. AND SO, IT IS A HUGE, HUGE PROJECT THAT WILL HAVE AN INCREDIBLE BENEFIT. >> THANK YOU. THOSE EFFORTS COMBINED WITH A RECENTLY COMPLETED SHIP CANAL PROJECT, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM THE GEORGETOWN. I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE ACRONYM DOWN TO OUR SOUTH, BUT YOU KNOW, THE COMBINATION IS HUGE IN TERMS OF WE AS A CITY , AND THE COUNTY, I SHOULD ADD, VERY MUCH COUNTY, ARE NOT POLLUTING OUR WATERWAYS TO PARTICULARLY THE SOUND AND THE ELLIOTT BAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT, THANK YOU FOR THE BACKGROUND. CHAIR? >> AWESOME. AND BEFORE I RECOGNIZE YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON, MR. BRIAN GOOD NIGHT, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? I AM SORRY THAT I MISSED YOU. >> NO PROBLEM AT ALL, THANK YOU. THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO MENTION WAS PURELY A SCHEDULING ONE, JUST THAT OUR PARTNER, KING COUNTY, IT HAS BEEN THROUGH THEIR COMMITTEE PROCESS AND IT IS SCHEDULED FOR THEIR FULL COUNCIL CONSIDERATION ON APRIL 1st, SO JUST IN TERMS OF TIMING. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AS I SAID THE OTHER DAY OR YESTERDAY, I RECOGNIZE HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING BEFORE US HERE [ INAUDIBLE ] , SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS WORK, VERY IMPORTANT, AND FOR STICKING WITH IT. I WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE WORK OF THE DUWAMISH RIVER CLEANUP COALITION, NOW CALLED DUWAMISH RIVER CLEANUP -- NO. COMMUNITY COALITION. OKAY, LIKE I SAID, THEY HAD BEEN INVOLVED FROM -- I GUESS IT WAS 2001, AND ADVOCATING ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN THE RIVER THEN, AND GENERATIONS BACK. AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY ARE THE ONES THAT -- THEY DID MANY THINGS, THEY ESTABLISHED A RIVER, DUWAMISH VALLEY VISIONING PLAN IN 2009, AND THEY WERE CONSTANT ADVOCATES. I KNOW THAT THEY ALWAYS -- WHEN I WAS IN COUNCILMEMBER RICHARD'S OFFICE, THEY WERE A PARTNER AND ALSO A WATCHDOG, SO I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT I BELIEVE THEY HAVE THEIR ROLE IN ENSURING THAT THE CLEANUP PROCEEDS AS WELL AS IT CAN, BUT BRINGING IN THE WHOLE COMMUNITY -- NOT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, BUT BRINGING THE COMMUNITY, [ INAUDIBLE ] HEALTH IMPACTS ANALYSIS BE DONE, AND I THINK THAT WAS CONDUCTED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON, WHICH THEN LED TO SOME OF THE PAGES -- THE EARLY PAGES IN YOUR PRESENTATION, WHICH SHOWS THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL GETTING HARMED. AND THEN REQUIRED WARNINGS AND MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS INFORMED. ANYWAY, I JUST FELT THAT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT, BECAUSE THEY DID SO MUCH GOOD WORK. AND OF COURSE, TO RECOGNIZE THE LEADER, JAMES RASMUSSEN, WHO WAS AT THE HELM FOR SO LONG. THAT'S IT. >> THEY HAVE BEEN AN INCREDIBLE PARTNER WITH US AND FOR US, AND THEY ALSO HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB KEEPING US ACCOUNTABLE TO OUR COMMITMENTS. SO, WE CONSIDER THEM A VERY VALUABLE RESOURCE FOR THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> AWESOME. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION. I KNOW THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THIS AND IT WILL COME AGAIN BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, SO, WE CAN CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE PROCESS, BUT JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK, YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS. I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME, ESPECIALLY YOU, LAURA, YOU SAID 30+ YEARS, IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. SO, YOU STARTED AT THIS WHEN YOU WERE FIVE. OKAY. >> 1990, I STARTED. >> 1990, YOU STARTED ON THIS. WOW. AND I AM SURE YOU JUST WANT TO CONTINUE FOR THIS TO BE OVER, RIGHT? NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. NO, THAT IS HOW MUCH YOU CARE ABOUT OUR CITY AND THE ENVIRONMENT AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO THIS, SO JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. AND DIRECTOR LEE, REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR CARE AND YOUR PASSION FOR THIS, AND ELLEN AND JASON, AND THE PHENOMENAL, THE ILLUSTRIOUS MR. BRIAN GOOD NIGHT. OKAY. WELL, THAT IS GOING TO CONCLUDE OUR MEETING TODAY. ONE COOL, INTERESTING FACT, SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, IF YOU WANT AND YOU ARE WATCHING THIS CHANNEL, GO LOOK UP THE HURRICANE HUNTERS, THEY ARE THE COOLEST PIECE OF THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION. YOU CAN LOOK EVERY TIME THERE IS A HURRICANE WITHIN OUR PLANET. THEY FLY THEIR PLANE AT 10,000 FEET , ALL THROUGH THE EYE OF THAT HURRICANE. TO GET THE WIND SPEED, TO UNDERSTAND WHEN IT IS GOING TO HIT, TO GET THE TIMING, THERE REALLY THE TRUE FIRST RESPONDERS WHEN IT COMES TO OUR ENVIRONMENT AND CLIMATE CHANGE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO HURRICANE. IT IS SOME OF THE COOLEST THINGS, THEY'RE FINE AT LIKE 1:00, 2:00 IN THE MORNING, AT NIGHT. THERE REALLY PHENOMENAL. AND YOU CAN GO LOOK AT THEIR PATTERNS ON A COOL APP WHEN YOU LOOK AT PLANES. SO, IT IS KIND OF WHAT I DO WHEN I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LEFT TO DO IN MY LIFE. SO, WITH THAT, THIS CONCLUDES OUR MEETING OF THE PARKS, UTILITIES, TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE MEETING. IS THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS OF BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE? NO? OKAY, IT IS -- COUNCIL PRESIDENT? GO AHEAD, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. OH, NO WORRIES. YES. OUR NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING IS APRIL 9th AT 2:00 P.M. HEARING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, IT IS 2:52 P.M., THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. ♪