IS ... >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CALL THE COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER. IF WE CAN HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE. >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>CLERK: WE A PHYSICAL QUORUM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 1 A.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS -- OR 1:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING EVEN THOUGH WE ARE SOMETIMES HERE AT THAT TIME. MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. ITEM NUMBER 79 A REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE AND DOESN'T HAVE A DATE FOR ITEM 79. CONTINUE THAT FOR A DATE TO BE DETERMINED, IF THAT IS OKAY. CLERK EITHER APRIL 3 OR 17th. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE WE CONTINUE ITEM 79 TO APRIL 17. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM 79 TO APRIL 17 AT 1:30 P.M. 315 EAST KENNEDY, BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602. ALL IN FAVOR. THESE ARE QUASI JUDICIAL HEARINGS. IF YOU WERE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 80, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN. SIR, WILL YOU BE SPEAK SOMETHING IN [SWEARING IN] >> YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE GENTLEMAN THAT JUST WALKED IN, WILL YOU BE SPEAKING? >> NO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 80. MISS CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE, IF YOU WILL KICK IT OFF AND THEN MR. COTTON. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD AFTERNOON, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. ITEM 80, THE REVIEW HEARING FOR SU 1-24-58 FOR PROPERTY 3127 WEST OAKLAND AVENUE. THE PETITIONER IS A MR. RON FAIR AND ALESSANDRO COBEUER. I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCED THAT. THE REQUEST THAT STAFF REVIEWED FROM THE APPLICANT IS FOR AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENT. STAFF DENIED THE REQUEST FOR A EXTENDED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE FOR THIS PROPERTY ON DECEMBER 6, 2024, BECAUSE IT DID NOT MEET THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA OUTLINED IN CITY OF TAMPA CODE SECTION 27-1342 SUBSECTIONS C FOR TWO REASONS AND MR. COTTON WILL GO OVER THOSE DETAILS BUT DID NOT MEET THE SIZE REQUIREMENT FOR THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE. AND THERE WAS NOT A CONFIRMATION FROM THE APPLICANT TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE -- THAT THE SPACE WOULD BE LIMITED TO FAMILY MEMBERS RELATED BY MARRIAGE, BLOOD, ADOPTION OR LEGAL GUARDIANSHIP. I PROVIDED CITY COUNCIL IN THEIR PACKET COPIES OF CITY OF TAMPA CODE SECTION 27-61, WHICH IS THE STANDARDS FOR REVIEW HEARINGS. IN CITY -- I MEAN, IN THE STAFF REPORT, MR. COTTON PROVIDED A COPY OF CODE SECTION 27-132 WHICH IS THE REGULATIONS GOVERNOR EARNING INDIVIDUAL'S SPECIFIC USES, CODE SECTION WHICH ARE THE CONDITIONS AND SAFEGUARDS. I ALSO PROVIDED THE RULES OF PROCEDURES IN THE SAMPLE MOTION REGARDING THIS MATTER. ACCORDING TO CODE SECTION 27-61 SUBJECTION J-3. CITY COUNCIL CAN CONDUCT A DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING WHICH MEANS THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN RECEIVE NEW EVIDENCE. MR. COTTON IS ON -- IS APPEARING REMOTELY IN ORDER TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE APPLICATION AND THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL. AFTER HEARING ALL THE EVIDENCE, CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE TWO ACTIONS. CITY COUNCIL COULD EITHER AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND, THEREFORE, DENY THE REQUEST FOR THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE AT THAT LOCATION. OR CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND, THEREFORE, APPROVE THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT FOR THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE. I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL TURN IT OVER NOW TO MR. COTTON. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS? NO? THANK YOU. >>ERIC COTTON: THANK YOU, COUNCIL. IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN FOR 30 SECONDS OR SO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE. CAN COUNCIL SEE THE PRESENTATION? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>ERIC COTTON: AWESOME. SO AS MISS CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE IS INDICATING A PETITION FOR REVIEW SU-21-85. FOR PROPERTY AT 3127 WEST OAKLYN AVENUE. APPLICATION AS MISS PETTIS MACKLE INDICATED WAS FOR AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE. ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS RS-57 AT THE PARKLAND ESTATES OVERLAY DISTRICT. AGAIN FOR AN EXTENDED FAMILY. JUST A QUICK -- THE PART HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. THIS IS A -- THE FIRST-FLOOR PLAN OF THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE, A THIS IS A AN EXISTING LOCATION ABOVE THE GARAGE. AND THEY WERE GOING TO BE PROPOSING TO ADD IN A KITCHEN. WHEN YOU ADD IN A KITCHEN, IT BECOMES ANOTHER DWELLING. AND THERE ARE TWO WAYS OF GETTING -- GOING ABOUT THAT IS TO APPLY FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED IN THIS AREA OR AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE. ALSO AS END CATED, A PICTURE OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. THE STRUCTURE IS A LITTLE OVER -- ROUGHLY OVER 1100 SQUARE FEET FOR THE EXTENDED FAMILY AREA. BY CODE, THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 600 SQUARE FEET AND EXCEEDS THAT BY ALMOST DOUBLE. AND ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS, IT HAS TO BE FOR A RELATIVE. IT IS PART OF THE APPLICATION. THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THIS STATEMENT OF NARRATIVE WHICH SAYS THE ROOM IS TO BE USED AS AN ENTERTAINMENT LOUNGE FOR THE OWNERS, JUAN AND GINA, BASED ON THAT EVIDENCE NO EVIDENCE WAS SUBMITTED THAT IT BE FOR A RELATIVE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COTTON. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. COTTON, THIS AREA IS BUILT OUT AND WANT TO INSTALL KITCHEN. >>ERIC COTTON: EXISTING ABOVE THEIR GARAGE. AN EXISTING STRUCTURE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EXISTING AIR-CONDITIONED SPACE. >>ERIC COTTON: THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY, THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE? YES MA'AM? >>LYNN >>LYNN HURTAK: LOOKS LIKE -- OKAY, THERE IS A STAIRCASE. THERE IS A STAIRCASE TO THE OUTSIDE? >>ERIC COTTON: I BELIEVE THE STAIRCASE IS SIN TERM TO THE STRUCTURE ITSELF. ACCESS THROUGH THE GARAGE ITSELF. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. OTHER ENTRANCE GOES STRAIGHT THROUGH A BEDROOM. OKAY, THANK YOU. >>ERIC COTTON: YOU ARE WELCOME. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT FOR THE STAFF PART. WE HAVE THE PETITION. APPLICANT, COME ON UP. YOU HAVE 15 MINUTES. YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE THE ENTIRE 15 MINUTES. STATE YOUR NAME. >> RON FAIR. I AM THE OWNER AND APPLICANT HERE. SO WE WILL GO TO EXHIBIT 1 THAT WAS SHOWN BACK IN 2019. WE BUILT THE GARAGE. TIED IT TO THE HOUSE. HONESTLY, WE REALLY DIDN'T WANT THE UPSTAIRS TO NECESSARILY BE THAT BIG, BUT IT WAS THE ONLY WAY REALLY TO BALANCE THE WHOLE HOUSE WHEN WE DID THE WHOLE THING. SO WE HAD THAT ALL APPROVED. AND, YES, IT WAS ACED INTERNALLY. I GOT AN AGING MOTHER. SHE IS 82. I HAVE GOT AN AGEING MOTHER-IN-LAW WHO IS 79. JUST BEING PROACTIVE BEFORE SOMETHING HAPPENS AND GETS FORCE UPON US. BUILDING UP THE SPACE UP ABOVE, WE WERE TOLD WE COULDN'T PUT IN AN OVEN, AND THAT WAS THE SINGLE POINT THAT WAS PUSHING THE USE OF THE KITCHEN. SO WE -- WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD. AT THAT TIME, THE NEW ADU PROCESS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WASN'T EVEN IN, SO WE DID ALL OUR NOTICES AND EVERYTHING COMING FOR A VARIANCE JUST TO PUT A KITCHEN IN. IN THAT PROCESS, THE ADU STUFF HAPPENED. SO I WOULD LIKE TO STATE TWO THINGS WERE INCORRECT. NUMBER ONE, THIS IS UNDER -- A LITTLE OVER 900 SQUARE FEET. EVEN IF IT IS EXTENDED FAMILY, WE ARE LOOKING FOR A 50% INCREASE OVER THE 600 SQUARE FEET. THE SECOND THING THAT WAS INCORRECT IS IT SAID THAT WE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT FAMILY OR BLOOD. AND MR. COBLEUR WAS TOLD TO FILL IT OUT, WHICH I CONFIRMED WAS FAMILY. WE WERE CLEAR ABOUT MOTHER AND EVEN GONE BACK TO THE CITY AND TALKING TO STAFF WHO SAID, WELL, IT IS FOR MY MOTHER AND MOTHER-IN-LAW, AND THAT IS FAMILY. THE ORIGINAL RECORD HAS THAT. SO IT HAS BEEN A PRETTY FRUSTRATING AND LONG PROCESS. TO BE HONEST YOU WITH, I STILL DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND -- AND THIS IS WHAT WE DO EVERY DAY. WE ARE BUILDERS AND ENGINEERS. IF WE ARE NOT IN THE ADU, I UNDERSTAND IT HAVEN'T BEEN -- COME ABOUT. WE ARE LOOKING FOR A STOVE. I EVEN PUT IN AN ELEVATOR. AGAIN, I HAVE AGING PARENTS. AND IF WE ARE TRAVELING AND MY WIFE AND I ARE STILL FAIRLY YOUNG, I DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE TO COME DOWN THE STAIRS, STEP UP IN AND THROUGH. AND, YES, THERE IS A WALKWAY UPSTAIRS BUT AGAIN THAT IS WHERE WE TIED IT TO THE HOUSE. IF GOES INTO MY DAUGHTER'S CLASS SET AND HER ROOM AND HAS TO GO DOWN THE STAIRS, ETC. IT IS NO JUST NOT GOING TO BE CONVENIENT FOR AN AGING PARENT. FOR THOSE REASONS, LIKE I SAID, WE HAD THE DENIAL, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THE ADU DOES ALLOW FOR 950 SQUARE FEET, WHICH WE ARE UNDER. AND IT WAS ALREADY UNDER ROAR. IF THAT WOULD BE ALLOWABLE. IF WE WERE EXTENDED STAY, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS CLEAR IT WAS ALWAYS FAMILY, NOT FOR SOME AIR B&B OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND WE ARE OVER THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND ASKING FOR THE ADDITIONAL 50% BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY THERE. IN CONCLUSION, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE CITY GRANT THIS WHETHER OR NOT IT IS UNDER EXTENDED STAY OR THAT WE GET A VARIANCE THAT IT DOES AT LEAST MATCH THE ADU EVEN THOUGH WE WEREN'T BUILDING IT AT THIS TIME TO MEET THAT CRITERIA. IT WAS ALREADY DONE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE A QUESTION. HOW WOULD YOUR MOTHER OR MOTHER-IN-LAW ACCESS THAT SECOND STORY. ACCESS THROUGH THE GARAGE AND THROUGH THE MAIN HOUSE? OR IS THERE -- BECAUSE WHEN I LOOKED AT THE -- AT THE CARS, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE DOORS. THERE WAS, LIKE, AN ENTRANCEWAY. A WINDOW OR DOOR TO GET YOU INSIDE. >> THERE WAS A DOOR. IF YOU WALK TO THE BREEZEWAY IN BETWEEN, THERE IS A DOOR THAT COMES IN. AND THE INTENT IS FOR SOMEBODY AGING TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE THE CAR RIGHT IN. GET OUT. GET IN THE ELEVATOR. AND GO RIGHT UPSTAIRS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IS AN ELEVATOR. >> YES, SIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS AN ASK. MY PARENTS -- NOT SOON, BUT THEN GETTING UP THE STAIRS WILL BE AN ISSUE. OKAY, THERE IS AN ELEVATOR. AND WHAT -- YOU KNOW, YOU ARE SAYING -- IF FAMILY -- IF THEY ARE -- MOTHER AND MOTHER-IN-LAW IS NOT FAMILY, THEN WHAT IS. WHAT PROOF WERE YOU ASKED TO SHOW. A DRIVER'S LICENSE, SAME LAST NAME? WHAT DO THEY ASK TO YOU DO. >> I WAS ASKED FOR NOTHING TO VERIFY THAT. AND LIKE I SAID, OUR INTENT WAS CLEAR FROM DAY ONE THAT IT IS ONLY OUR USE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? IF NOT, HE WILL OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, NOT YET. ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENT AND REBUTTAL IF NEEDED. MISS PETTIS-MACKLE. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FOR THE RECORD. I WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THIS I THINK SO THAT MR. FAIR HAS BROUGHT UP. THIS -- AS A REMINDER, THIS WAS BROUGHT TO STAFF AS A REQUEST TO REVIEW NOR AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE USE. NOT FOR AN ADU. ALSO I THINK MR. COTTON BROUGHT UP ADDITIONALLY -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT AND ON THE SCREEN IN HIS POWERPOINT, BUT THIS WAS THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO STAFF AS THE BASE IS FOR THE USE OF THAT AREA. FOR THE APPLICATION FOR THIS EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE. AND THAT -- AGAIN, MR. COTTON CAN CONFIRM THAT, BUT THIS IS THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED WITH REGARDS TO THE APPLICATION THAT IS BEFORE -- THAT WAS BEFORE STAFF. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COMING FROM THE PLUMBER SERVICE. THE LETTER SAYS ACC SERVICES, INC. NOT THE GENTLEMAN, MR. FAIR. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MR. FAIR IS THE PROPERTY OWNER. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS HE ASC SERVICES? >> YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. WHY DID YOU PUT ENTERTAINMENT LOUNGE AREA FOR THE OWNERS, RON AND GINA. IF YOU CAN COME UP SO WE CAN GET YOU ON THE -- >> AGAIN, THAT WAS DONE AT THE DIRECTION -- AND MR. COBLEUR WILL CLARIFY THAT. THAT IS WHAT HE WAS TOLD BY STAFF TO PUT IN THAT LETTER TO VERIFY THAT IT WAS US USING AND NOT AS AN AIR B&B OR ANYTHING SUCH AS THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WERE YOU ASKED FOR AN AFFIDAVIT OR ANY SIGNED DOCUMENT OR STATEMENT TO SAY IT WILL BE USE FOR FAMILY. >> NO, SIR. AND CONDITIONALLY I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM TO PROVIDING THAT OR DOING THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE. THERE IS NO SECOND READING. AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HIM TO DO SO OR COUNCIL TAKES THE GAME BELL AND JUST, YOU KNOW, BELIEVES AND SAYS OKAY WHICH IS NOT -- IT IS HEARSAY AND NOT WRITTEN -- >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. SO THIS IS A DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING. SO IF CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT MR. FAIR IS STATING BEFORE THIS COUNCIL, YOU ARE -- THAT IS WHAT THE CODE ALLOWS. BUT STAFF'S DECISION CANNOT BE CHANGED AND THEY HAVE TO RELY ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THEM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN -- BEING IT IS A DE NOVO HEARING. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW NEW EVIDENCE AND SOMETHING THAT WAS MENTIONED. COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO MAKE SURE. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS -- I UNDERSTAND -- I UNDERSTAND STAFF -- ONE OF THESE SITUATIONS WHERE IT IS GOOD TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND WE CAN INTERJECT COMMON SENSE WHILE STAFF HAS TO GO THROUGH THE BLACK AND WHITE. I AM INCLINED TO DENY STAFF BASED ON THE DE NOVO EVIDENCE THAT WE HEARD AND JUST WHAT WAS STATED. AND ALSO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE DO THAT, WILL THAT -- IS THAT ENOUGH TO -- FOR STAFF TO ISSUE A PERMIT TO ALLOW THIS USE? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE JUST HAVE TO OVERTURN THEIR DECISION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING ELSE OUTSTANDING OR WILL THAT BE ENOUGH? IS IT DONE AT THAT POINT? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE OVERTURN THE DECISION, HE IS GRANTED THE PERMIT TO DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. I BELIEVE -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE PERMIT ASSOCIATED WITH -- WHAT HE WAS DOING. HIS PROJECT. THAT IS WHERE HE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. ALL THAT IS BEFORE YOU WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE GOING TO AFFIRM OR OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHATEVER IS NEXT IS NEXT. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CORRECT. >>ERIC COTTON: IF I MAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MR. COTTON KHAT CLOTH YES, THANK YOU, COUNCIL. IF THE MOTION IS TO OVERTURN THE DENIAL, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WILL ACKNOWLEDGE WHO THE APPLICANT WILL BE AND I WILL BE DOING AN ANNUAL INSPECTION -- A REQUIREMENT OF FAMILIES. HE WILL BE ON THAT LIST AND CONFIRM THAT THE PERSON LIVING THERE IS THE PERSON BEING APPROVED THROUGH THIS PROCESS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNTY ATTORNEY. YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC REQUEST IN FRONT OF YOU. IN ORDER TO BE AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE STATUTORY FOR THE CODE REQUIREMENTS. THAT IS WHAT HE CAME IN UNDER. THAT IS WHAT HE IS ASKING FOR. YOU CAN NOT DO IT -- THERE IS NO ADU OPPORTUNITY AT THIS POINT IN TIME. MR. COTTON -- I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, MR. COTTON. YOU ARE ASKING FOR SOMETHING AFFIRMATIVE ON THE RECORDS WITH REGARDS TO WHO WILL BE IN THE UNITS AND THEIR RELATIONSHIPS THAT COMPLIES -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OBJECTION TO THIS. THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY PUT ON THE RECORD WHO HE INTENDS TO OCCUPY THIS UNIT. THAT QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED. I THINK WE MOVE ON FROM THAT. THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS FOR LAW IS WELL STATED IN LAW AND REGARD WHAT THE COUNCIL'S DECISION MADE. THE LAW IS THE LAW. LET'S MOVE ON. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FAIR ENOUGH. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO? MOTION TO CLOSE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL O OF SU-24-85 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3127 WEST OAKLYN AVENUE. THE CRITERIA FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTS OF MAXIMUM OF 600 SQUARE FEET AND EXTENDED TO THE FAMILY MEMBERS RELATE BY MARRIAGE, BLOOD, ADOPTION OR LEGAL GUARDIANSHIP AS PROVIDED IN CITY OF TAMPA CODE 27-132 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: THE APPLICANT STATED ON THE RECORD AND IN SWORN TESTIMONY THAT THE INTENDED USE OF THIS PROPERTY IS FOR RELATED IN-LAWS AND AGING RELATIVES IN ACCORDANCE WITH TAMPA CITY CODE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I WILL ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE NO, BECAUSE THE LETTER WAS WRITTEN FIVE MONTHS AGO AND CLEARLY SAID FOR ENTERTAINMENT. TO CHANGE IT TO NOW FAMILY IS -- HE DON'T THINK THAT IS NECESSARILY THE CASE. IF THAT WERE THE CASE, I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN WRITING FIVE MONTHSING INTO HIS LETTER SO I'M GOING TO SAY NO. >>CLERK: VIERA -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN -- CAN YOUR MOTION BE AMENDED TO REPLACE THE TERM THAT IT IS BEING WAIVED TO THE CONDITION INSTEAD HAS BEEN MET. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY. AGREEABLE. I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT MOTION THAT THE -- BEING WAVED TO THE CONDITION HAS BEEN MET. THE SPECIFIC CONDITION HAS -- CRITERIA FOR EXTENDED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN MET AND NOT WAIVED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND ON THE MOTION IS STILL GOOD ON THAT. >>LUIS VIERA: -- YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM VIERA. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HENDERSON VOTING NO AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. ITEM NUMBER 85, MOW PIT DEPARTMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHO WILL BE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MR. BHIDE REGARDING A MONTHLY IN PERSON REPORT ON MAINTENANCE WORK. YES, SIR. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> BRIAN ROGER, MOBILITY OPERATIONS MANAGER. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, BECAUSE THIS IS MY MOTION. I RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION -- MR. SHELBY. I RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC CONCERNED THIS WASN'T IN ON BASE AHEAD OF TIME. AND I DID RESPOND TO THE PEOPLE WHO REACHED OUT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IS ON MY REQUEST TO GET THE MOST UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION 37 AND THAT WILL BE ADDED TO ON BASE AFTER THIS PRESENTATION. ALL I ASK THAT YOU JUST LET US KNOW TOWARD THE END WHEN YOU EXPECT THAT PRESENTATION TO BE UP ON ON BASE SO THE PUBLIC CAN LOOK AT IT MORE CLEARLY. LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS. >> WE CAN HAVE THIS ON BASE AFTER THE HEARING. >>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> I JUST -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DID YOU STATE YOUR NAME YET. >> BRIAN ROGER. I WANTED TO OPEN UP BY PROVIDING SOME PERSPECTIVE ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THROUGHOUT THE CITY. FOR PIPE, 509 MILES OF PIPE UNDERGROUND THAT WE MAINTAIN WHICH IS BASICALLY A TRIP MIAMI AND BACK -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STAND BY REAL FAST. CAN YOU MOVE THE CLOSED CAPTIONING FOR US. AND ZOOM A LITTLE BIT. IF PUCK MOVE THE CLOSED CAPTIONING FURTHER TO THE BOTTOM AND THEN ZOOM. OTHER WAY. >>LYNN HURTAK: PERFECT. >> AGAIN, 590 MILES OF PIPE. 186 MILES OF DITCH. ALMOST 900 OUTFALLS WITH THE PUMP STATIONS. RETENTION POND 148, YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A PRETTY EXTENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE. WITH THAT IN MY DIVISION, WE HAVE 6 FULL-TIME PERSONNEL POSITIONS THAT STAFF TO FIELD OPERATIONS. 4 OR SO. BULK ARE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, I WILL SAY. I WANTED TO SHOW THAT TO YOU. AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR GRADING EQUIPMENT. SO FOR OUR DITCHES, WE HAVE A WHEEL EXCAVATOR INTO THE CA THATLE, A GRADE HAULER AND BACK HOE USED FOR THOSE OPERATIONS. POND MAINTENANCE, YOU CAN SEE IT IS ATTRACTER EXCAVATOR. FOR -- OUR PIPES, STRUCTURES AND OUTFALLS OUR TRUCKS THAT DO THE INSPECTIONS, AS WELL AS STREET SWEEPER. MINI STREET SWEEPER THAT OPERATES IN THE BIKE LANES AND BIGGER STREET SWEEPERS SEVEN OF THOSE. SOMETHING TO ALSO BRING TO LIGHT IS THE OTHER SERVICES THAT THE STORMWATER OPERATION UNIT PROVIDES. SO WE ASSIST IN SPECIAL EVENTS, IMPLEMENTING TPD'S CONCRETE BARRIER WALL. BEFORE ALL THOSE EVENTS, I HAVE TO PULL STAFF OFF TO GO IMPLEMENT AND SET UP THAT BARRIER. BUT USUALLY BEFORE THE EVENT HAPPENS, BUT THEN DURING THE EVENT AND AFTER THE EVENT AS WELL. LAST CATEGORY IS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. STORMWATER STAFF. HALF OF THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE CENTER THREE, WHICH I AM A CO-COMMANDER OF. SO THAT IS THE EQUIPMENT -- THE EQUIPMENT THAT I JUST OUTLINED. HERE IS JUST KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF CALLS WE GET. 2024, WE GOT 3700 CALLS. WITH THE BULK OF THOSE CALLS BEING IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER WITH CALLS THAT MONTH. SO FOR FEBRUARY, YOU CAN -- YOU CAN SEE IT IS TONED DOWN TO THE 197. SO OBVIOUSLY THE DRIER MONTHS WE GET LESS CALLS FOR SERVICE. THE HEART OF MOTION TO BRING TO YOU WHAT WE DID IN FEBRUARY AND WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IN MARCH. THESE WERE THE NEIGHBORHOODS WE WERE IN FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY. WE WERE ACTUALLY WORKING CITY W WIDE. THESE ARE THE MAIN CATEGORIZED NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE WERE IN. GRADED 1200 FEET OF DITCH, REMOVED 500 TONS OF DEBRIS AND THAT DEBRIS GETS SORTED AT OUR TRANSFER STATION AT THE PORT AND HAULED TO MANATEE COUNTY LAND FILL. WE MOW OUR PONDS ONCE A MONTH, EVERY 28 DAYS, 82 MEILES A DAY, 42 MILES OF DITCH. AND SPRAY OUR PONDS FOR AQUATIC VEGETATION CONTROL. KEEPS US FROM HAVING TO HARVEST THEM LATER. OUTFALLSES WITH 30 INSPECTIONS. PUMP STATIONS, WE DID THE CREEK DAM ON CURIOSITY CREEK. WE REPLACED SOME PUMPS AND MONTHLY STATIONS AND AT DOUGHNUT AND CURIOSITY CREEK. STREET SWEEPING 1400 MILES, CURB MILES AND REMOVED 250 TONS OF DEBRIS. SO FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY, YOU SKIPPED THE PIPES SECTION AND THE STRUCTURES. IF YOU CAN GO BACK AND SPEAK TO THAT. >> SO PIPES, WE INSPECTED AND MAINTAINED 3 ,968 FEET AND REMOVED 23 TONS OF MATERIAL. AS WELL AS MAINTAIN INSPECTED 421 STRUCTURES -- DRAINAGE STRUCTURES, MANHOLES AND INLET'S. FROM MARCH, PLAN ON BEING IN VIRGINIA PARK, BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL, BEACH PARK, PALMA CEIA, ROBLES BARK, UNIVERSITY SQUARE, FOREST HIS AND PARKLAND ESTATES. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE OUTFALLS. THE OUT OF OUR PUMP STATIONS ARE FREE AND CLEAR AND WHEN THEY START PUMPING, THEY WILL BE DEBRIS CLEAR. AS AN OTHER, WE HAVE TWO MORE PARADES TO IMPLEMENT BARRIER WALL FOR, THE ST. PADDY'S AND THE PRIDE PARADE. FOR CALL FOR SERVICE, WE ARE A 24-7 OPERATION. ANYONE WANTING ANY ASSISTANCE FOR STORMWATER-RELATED ACTIVITIES. 813-274-3101. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON? >> I'M DONE. >>LYNN HURTAK: THESE PICTURES ARE NICE. >> OH, I AM SORRY. >> SO I INCLUDED A HANDFUL OF PICTURES. THIS WAS OF THE PUMP STATION, SUMP PUMP REPLACEMENTS. THEY KEEP THE WET WELL DRY WHEN HERE IS THE CAVED-IN REPAIR. TURNS OUT MORE EXPENSIVE WHAT WE DO NORMALLY BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU WILL SEE WHEN YOU SEE THESE CAVE-INS SO WE HAD TO REBUILD THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE. JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE INLET TOP THAT WAS BROKEN, LIKELY RUN OVER BY A CAR CUTTING THE CORNER. SO WE HAVE TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING. FORM IT UP. POUR IT BACK WITH CONCRETE, AND RESTORE THE AREA AROUND IT. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF OUR NORTH TAMPA CLEANING. KINDS OF THE MAP WE GIVE TO OUR OPERATORS. AND THEY GO OUT AND HIT ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THIS IS A SPILLWAY THAT WAS FULL OF DEBRIS. AND LASTLY, AN EXAMPLE OF DITCH GRADING. ON NORTH MYRTLE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS REPORT. I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW ESPECIALLY AFTER THE STORMS HOW WE ARE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS. AND SO I AM GOING TO START WITH -- WITH WHAT I THINK IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST AND MOST GLARING ISSUE I SEE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THIS IS THE DRY SEASON AND THIS IS WHERE WE CAN GET MOST OF THE WORK DONE. I REALLY WANT TO KNOW -- WELL, YES. HOW DO WE GET YOU ALL OFF DOING PARADE DUTY AND BACK TO ACTUALLY WHAT WE REALLY, REALLY NEED FOR TO YOU DO. SO I'M GOING TO ASK FOR MAYBE -- MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE -- I SEE MISS DUNCAN THERE. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IS PROBABLY ABOVE YOUR PAY GRADE, BUT I DO WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT TAKES -- IF IT TAKES US JUST PUTTING MORE MONEY INTO A CONTRACT WITH A COMPANY THAT CAN DO THAT WORK, BUT I WILL TELL YOU BECAUSE THIS IS THE DRY SEASON AND WE REALLY NEED TO PREPARE. I THINK IT IS WORTH ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY -- WELL, REASONABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE PUT THOSE BARRIERS IN FOR US. WHAT DO YOU THINK CAN BE DONE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. >>JEAN DUNCAN: JEAN DUNCAN, INFRASTRUCTURE MOBILITY ADMINISTRATOR. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. IT IS A GOOD QUESTION. OUR CHIEF OF STAFF HAS BEEN COLLECTING COST ESTIMATES AND INFORMATION FROM THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT DO SUPPORT SPECIAL EVENTS. LOOKING AT THAT VERY ISSUE. THIS IS A CHALLENGE FOR THE STORMWATER OPERATIONS GROUP AS YOU SAW. AND THAT THE HOMELAND REQUIREMENTS KEEP GETTING MORE ROBUST EVERY YEAR, EVERY SEASON. AND THAT TRANSLATES TO MORE WORK FOR OUR TEAM. THE REASON THIS TEAM IS CALLED IN, THEY HAVE THAT EQUIPMENT TO RELOCATE THOSE JERSEY BARRIERS, SPECIAL SKILLS, SPECIAL EQUIPMENT, AS YOU KNOW. OBVIOUSLY THE SIMPLE QUESTION TO ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS IS ALWAYS MONEY. BUT I DON'T WANT TO STEP ON ANY TOES OF OTHERS -- OR OTHER DEPS, BUT IF THERE WAS AN OUTSOURCING OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE US OFF OF OUR TEAM, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT. BUT I KNOW THAT THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS CURRENTLY GETTING INFORMATION. AND IT IS ON THE RADAR. SO -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I ASK A FOLLOW-UP TO IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK THAT MISS DUNCAN WILL HAVE THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION EITHER, BUT I WILL THROW IT OUT TO AS TO -- OH -- I AM JUST NOT SURE -- OH, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT BECAUSE YOU ASKED THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M SORRY. >>LYNN HURTAK: NO PROBLEM. I JUST THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO -- OH, THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT. THE -- YOU KNOW, WHO IS IN CHARGE OF PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER. AND HOW MUCH THE -- THE PARADE PERSON IS PAYING FOR IT. AND HOW MUCH WE ARE -- AND I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY MORE OF A DENNIS QUESTION OR A CHIEF OF STAFF QUESTION. >>JEAN DUNCAN: THERE IS A SPECIAL EVENT COMMITTEE THAT HAVE LEADERS FROM THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS ON IT. AND THEN A DECISION WHO WOULD CO-SPONSOR AS THE CITY. WHAT THE EVENT PROMOTER CAN PAY. WE HAVE GOOD TRACKING FOR MOBILITY AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS. OUR TIME AND RESOURCES THAT WE ARE SPENDING PARTICULARLY ON THE CO-SPONSORSHIP -- CO-SPONSORSHIP EVENTS, WHERE WE HAVE AN OBLIO OBLIGATION FOR TIME, RESOURCES AND MAN POWER TO PROVIDE CERTAIN MAINTENANCE, TRAFFIC AND BARRICADE SET-UP. WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THAT. THAT COMMITTEE MAKES THE DESECRETARIES OF CO-SPONSORSHIP. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, WONDERFUL. AN AREA. COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, YOU HAVE A QUESTION AND THEN I WILL COME BACK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST TO FOLLOW-UP. REFERENCE WITH THESE PARADE BARRIERS. TWO THINGS. ONE, ARE THE PEOPLE DOING -- TAKING CARE OF THE DITCHES OR THE ITEMS YOU JUST HIGHLIGHTED. ARE THIS OTHER COLLATERAL TUTTIS BESIDE THESE DUTIES THAT THEY ARE DOING. >> ANY KIND OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FUNCTION. WHEN WE GET ACTIVATED WE HAVE TO HUNKER DOWN AND PUSH ROUTES IN THOSE ZONES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GENERALLY, THESE ARE ONLY THE ROUTINE COLLATERAL DAMAGE? >> CORRECT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW MANY DAYS ARE SPENT DOING THOSE PARADES? >> LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, BEFORE THE RUNS, WE SPENT THURSDAY AND FRIDAY SETTING UP THE WALL. AND THEN MONDAY AND TUESDAY FOLLOWING THE RUNS PICKING IT -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOUR DAYS PER EVENT. LOSING FOUR DAYS -- >> ON THE LARGER EVENTS, YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ARE THEY ALL -- EVERY PARADE? >> MOST OF THE PARADES. ALL THE PARADES DOWNTOWN, YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHRISTMAS. ALL OF THEM. >> YES, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT ADDS UP WHEN YOU PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER. VERY GOOD, THANK YOU. >>LYNN HURTAK: AND OTHER THING, TOO, I KNOW, WE DID A REALLY WONDERFUL TWO-AND-A-HALF-HOUR TOUR OF BEACH PARK. HE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING YOUR TEAMS TO BE OUT THERE WITH US AND A LARGE GROUP OF NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AND MEMBERS. SO THAT WAS A REALLY INFORMATIONAL AND EYE-OPENING EXPERIENCE FOR ME, AS WELL AS FOR THE RESIDENTS. BUT A LOT OF -- ONE OF THE THINGS THEY TALKED ABOUT IS, YES, WE HAVE THESE PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOODS SCHEDULED. BUT WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF REACTIVE WORK BECAUSE SOME CAVE-INS AND THINGS. IF YOU CAN TALK HOW MUCH OF YOUR WORK ISRY ACTIVE VERSUS HOW MUCH IS SCHEDULED. AND -- HOW WE CAN SOMETIMES GET A MISBALANCE. I KNOW THAT CAVE-INS HAVE INCREASED SINCE THE HURRICANES. SO WHAT -- WHAT -- HOW DO WE BALANCE THAT? >> WE JUST PRIORITIZE THE BEST WE CAN BASED ON WHAT COMES IN AND WHAT WE FIND. RIGHT NOW, WE -- WE WOULD ALWAYS IN AN IDEAL WORLD BE 80% PROACTIVE AND 20%RY ACTIVE. WE ARE PROBABLY VICE VERSE IS A THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF HOW INUNDATED WITH CALLS AND ISSUES WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR EQUIPMENT AVAILABILITY, OUR EMPLOYEE AVAILABILITY. ALL THOSE THINGS COME INTO FACTOR WHEN THEY AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO DO PRODUCTIVE WORK. WE FAN OUT TO THE CITY TO TACKLE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN ANY FLOOD-PRONE AREAS. >>LYNN HURTAK: THING GOES TO MISS DUNCAN. WE -- WE AS A COUNCIL ALLOCATED HALF MILLION DOLLARS MORE TO YOUR DEPARTMENT OR FOR STORMWATER DEPARTMENT TO HELP PREPARE FOR THIS STORM SEASON. I KNOW YOU HAVE A RFP GOING OUT. CAN YOU TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT -- IF ANYONE KNOWS. >>JEAN DUNCAN: FOR DITCH REGRADING? >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MONEY WAS CHOSEN TO BE SPENT ON. >>JEAN DUNCAN: HE CAN EXPLAIN. >> WERE PURCHASING A DITCH GRADING ON THE STREET TOMORROW. >>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL. WITH THE HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO DO THAT. HOW MANY MILES DO YOU FEEL THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO. AND HOW QUICKLY DO YOU THINK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET IT UP AND RUNNING, I GUESS. BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH PROCUREMENT. THAT TAKES LIKE 30 -- AT LEAST -- THAT IS BEING -- MAYBE 60 DAYS? >> IF IT GOES OUT TOMORROW, I IMAGINE A TWO-WEEK ADVERTISEMENT AND HOPEFULLY WE GET BIDDER ON THAT. LAST TIME WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING A SHELTER MARKED BID. WHEN WE GET THIS THING OUT PAN ONCE WE AWARD, IT WILL COME TO CANCEL. >>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL. GOING FURTHER THAN THAT. I KNOW THAT WATER, WASTEWATER, SOLID WASTE. THEY HAVE CONTRACTORS SITTING AT WAITING THAT THEY CAN PULL FROM. SORT OF -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS PART OF THE JOCK PROGRAM OR WHATEVER, BUT WHAT CAN WE TO DO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR STORMWATER SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THE PERMIT PROCESS EVERY SINGLE TIME AND THAT WE HAVE FOLKS THAT COULD BE READY THAT IF WE GAVE A LITTLE BIT EXTRA MONEY, WHAT COULD WE TO DO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE TO -- I HATE TO SAY "WASTE TIME" BUT SPEND TIME IN THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS GOING FORWARD. BECAUSE I FEEL -- YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY AND IT IS SUPER IMPRESSIVE ESPECIALLY AFTER THESE STORMS BUT NOT ENOUGH OF YOU TO GO AROUND. >> WE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH THE FEMA CONTRACTOR THAT WE GOT -- THAT THEY GAVE US. THE COMPANY CAME IN AND THEY CLAIMED 200,000 FEET OF PIPE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. WE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO THEM TO SEE IT IF THEY HAD ANY KIND OF MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS ELSEWHERE AND THEY DO. WE ARE LOOKING TO PIGGYBACK ON THOSE CONTRACTS. AND ONCE THAT CONTRACT IS AVAILABLE TO US A MATTER OF FUNDING AT THAT POINT. >>LYNN HURTAK: EXCELLENT. THESE ARE GREAT SUGGESTIONS. SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS. YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN? GO AHEAD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM REALLY INTRIGUED BY THIS -- THESE COLLATERAL DUTIES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE. SO IS YOU WE JUST TALKED OF THE PARADES. HOW ABOUT ALL THE THINGS WE DO IN THE CITY. THE GASPARILLA RUNS, YOU DO THEM AS WELL. WHEN DO YOU HAVE TIME TO MOW THE DITCHES. >> MY DIVISION IS TRANSITION OPERATION AND. I HAVE A TEAM THAT HANDLES THESE EVENTS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I LOVE THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE SYSTEM LOVE OUR EVENTS. I CAN'T IMAGINE -- I STARTED RUN THROUGH MY HEAD EVERY EVENT I HAVE IN THE CITY. >>JEAN DUNCAN: HE CAN JUST SAY AND BRIAN CAN CORRECTLY, THE HOMELAND SECURITY AREA THAT PULLS THE STORMWATER TEAM. BUT OUR MOBILITY -- EXCUSE ME TRANSPORTATION SIDE THE MOBILITY BUSINESS, THEY ARE WITH M.O.T. MAINTENANCE TO TRAFFIC PRODUCT CONSTANTLY EVEN AT THE STADIUM. A CERTAIN NUMBER OR THRESHOLD IF IT IS BELOWS THAT, THE STADIUM SETS IT UP. ABOVE THAT, WE SET IT UP. IT IS A CONSTANT PULL, SO TO SPEAK ON THAT TEAM AND THAT JOB WAS GOING OUT, REPAIRING SCENES, FIXING POD HOLES. US A A BALANCE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU HEARD ME SAY IT ALL DAY LONG FROM THE DAIS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, EVERY EMPLOYEE DO THE JOBS OF TWO OR THREE PEOPLE. CRAZY THAT YOUR PLATES ARE SO FULL. IT BLOWS MY MIND BECAUSE HAVING THE EXPERIENCE IN PRIVATE SECTOR AND EVEN IN THE FEDERAL SECTOR THE MULTITASKING GOING ON IN THE CITY. $3 OF PRODUCTIVITY FOR $1 OF SPENDING. AMAZING AND BLOWS MY MIND. I AM SURE THAT IS PART OF MY FRUSTRATION AND ALL OF OUR FRUSTRATIONS. WE SEE UNMET NEEDS AND WE SAY DARN IT, WHY AREN'T THESE THINGS GETTING DONE AND PART OF THAT ANSWER. OBVIOUSLY SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE, PROAFTER I AM DEAD AND GONE, HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY OF HAVING -- DIVIDING UP THIS WORKLOAD SO SOME OF THE FUTURE CITY LEADERS WILL FIND MONEY TO HAVE SEPARATE DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE THE CITY IS GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER. THE NEEDS ARE GETTING GREATER AND GREATER AND GREATER. FLOODING -- IT IS NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER. PROBABLY GOING TO GET WORSE. AND YOU LOOK AT THESE -- YOU LOOK AT THESE NEEDS. WE WILL HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. MAYBE THERE WAS A TIME WHEN WE WERE A SMALL TOWN AND DO THE JACK-OF-ALL-TRADES. THE SHERIFF IS THE DOGCATCHER AND THE CROSSING GUARD AND THE THIS AND THAT. THOSE DAYS ARE KIND OF GONE NOW AND WE START THINKING WE HAVE TO HAVE A BIGGER -- A BIGGER PRESENCE TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT THE CITIZENS EXPECT. >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST TO PIGGYBACK OFF THAT, THAT IS WHY I AM SAYING, WE SHOULD REALLY RECONSIDER CONTRACTS FOR PARADES AND LOOKING AT WHAT WE ARE DOING AS A CITY. AND I DEFINITELY THINK WE CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ENOUGH SPECIAL EVENTS IN THE CITY, WE PROBABLY CAN SUPPORT THAT WITH OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. WE NEED THE PEOPLE TO DO THAT. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING. ARE WE CHARGING ENOUGH TO DO THAT. OUR CONVERSATION GOING FORWARD. I JUST HAD NO IDEA THE VOLUME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WAS -- IT LED ME INTO THAT WHY I DID THAT FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. I AM SITTING HERE GOING WHAT ABOUT THESE GASPARILLA RUNS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE ARE DOING. EVERY WEEKEND WE HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT, ART FESTIVALS. LIKE YOU SAID, THE BUCCANEERS. AND MAYBE ONE DAY WE WILL BE PLAYING -- MAYBE ONE DAY WE WILL BE PLAYING BASEBALL IN TAMPA AND CROWD CONTROL. >>LYNN HURTAK: OPENING DAY IS LESS THAN A MONTH AWAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PLAYING BASEBALL IN TAMPA AT THE CHARLIE MIRANDA STATION. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I WILL VOTE AGAINST IT. [LAUGHTER] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A BRONCOS STATUE OF YOU OUT IN FRONT OF IT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAKE IT OUT OF BUTTER. [LAUGHTER] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LIKE WE SAID AT THE STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH IN 1926, THE BEST TIME TO REPAIR THE ROOF IS WHEN THE SUN IS SHINING. AND IT IS BEAUTIFUL WEATHER FOR NOW. AND AS WE GO INTO HURRICANE SEASON, AND MAINTENANCE, THINGS LIKE THIS WITH THE DITCHES. WE -- YOU KNOW, THE STORMS ARE THE STORMS. THE HURRICANES WERE AN EXCEPTIONAL OCCURRENCE. DOING THIS IF WE CAN INCREASE THE MAN POWER AND BUDGET, 86, ANOTHER HALF MILLION DOLLARS. YOU DO GREAT WORK. TEAMS ARE OUT THERE. LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN SAID, FOR EVERY DOLLAR WE SPENT, $3 OF PRODUCTIVITY. BECAUSE THEY ARE OUT THERE WORKING TIRELESSLY. MORE THEN THEY SHOULD, BUT WE US AS COUNCIL OF HOW TO SUPPORT AND INCREASE YOUR BUDGET AND INCREASE YOUR STAFF AND PRODUCTIVITY. THE CITY IS A BIG CITY AND A LOT. IN WEST TAMPA, YOU GOT A LOT OF DITCHES. SOUTH TAMPA, ALL OVER. BUT DOING THE -- THE GRADING AND CLEANING AND MAINTENANCE MAKES AT SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. IN THE UPPER RAIN STORM WESTERN IT IS RAINING FOR THOSE. 30-MINUTE RAIN IN JULY, THIS WILL HELP. SO THANK YOU TO YOUR TEAM AND EVERYBODY. BECAUSE THIS VERY, VERY HARD WORK. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>LUIS VIERA: YOU WANT TO GO FIRST. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF YOU DON'T MIND. >>LUIS VIERA: PLEASE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING. A DITCH OPERATION OF ONE SECTION, TWO SECTION, THREE SECTION, FOUR SECTION. AND THOSE IN MOBILITY MAKE SURE THEY DO THE -- NOT THE DITCH CLEANING. >> WE DO DITCH CLEANING IN HOUSE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO GET TO. MANY DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY THAT ARE DIFFERENT BUT ALL THE SAME OF WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT. FIRST OF ALL, WHEN YOU GO DOWN AND IT RAINS ON CYPRESS AND N. BOULEVARD, YOU CAN'T MAKE A LEFT. BECAUSE IT IS SWATCHED. FOLLOW CYPRESS ALL THE WAY HEADED WEST, YOU WILL SEE THE SAME THING, WHERE? THE MAIN ONE ON DALE MABRY HIGHWAY AND CYPRESS. WHY? CYPRESS HAS FEW INLETS. WATER COMES IN FROM THE INTERSTATE HEADED SOUTH AND THE PROBLEM WE HAD THE LAST 25 YEARS. SECOND ON THE CORNER OF MacDILL AVENUE AND COLUMBUS DRIVE. MacDILL HEADED NORTH AND SOUTH. COLUMBUS DRIVE EAST AND WEST. ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SOUTH SIDE OF SOUTHEAST SIDE, AN INLET FOR THE WATER TO DRAIN GOING DOWN WHEN IT COMES IN. HOWEVER FROM THE WEST SIDE OF THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD FACING NORTH, GUESS WHAT, THERE IS NO INLET. WATER STAYS THERE BECAUSE IT CAN'T GO AROUND THE CORNER AND GO UP BECAUSE IT IS UPHELL FOR THEM. ANY WAY YOU CAN PUT A PIPE THAT BIG FROM THAT SIDE ON THE GROUND TO THE EXISTING PIPE WHERE THE INLET IS AT, WE WOULD SOLVE THAT PROBLEM WITH VERY LITTLE MONEY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS UNDER THE GROUND. YOU GUYS DO. I LOOKED AT THAT FOR YEARS. IT ALWAYS FLOODS. AND WILL SAVE A LOT OF HEADACHES AND PROBLEMS WITH VERY LITTLE MONEY. SECONDLY, THERE ARE DITCHES ALL OVER THE CITY. WEST TAMPA, DREW PARK, SOUTH TAMPA, WEST SHORE AND EVEN WEST SHORE BOULEVARD THERE ARE DITCHES. WHAT I AM SAYING NOT AN EASY JOB. A LOT MORE DITCHES OPINION WHEN NATURE WAS NATURE. IT TWO DRAIN. NOW HARDLY DRAINS BECAUSE TOO MUCH LEFT FOR SOMETHING ELSE AND VERY LITTLE OF NATURE. AND DREW PARK, YOU HAD DITCHES THE SIZE OF CARS ONE TIME THAT YOU COULD DRIVE THROUGH. THE SAME THING FOR SOUTH TAMPA. MOSTLY GONE NOW, BUT STILL SOME SMALL ONES. THE PROBLEM IS THE OVERGROWTH OF HUMANITY. AND WHAT IT BRINGS. THAT IS A PAYBACK WE GET FOR BEING POPULAR, I GUESS. SOME RESOLVE IN THESE THINGS AND SOME ISSUES THAT CAN BE DONE. IF YOU TRAVEL DOWN CYPRESS, RIGHT FROM ALESSI BAKE HEADED WEST, YOU WILL FIND 200 -- I AM NOT GOING TO MENTION IT -- -- 100 YARDS. NOT SINKHOLES BUT THINGS THAT NEED ATTENTION AND THEY HAVE BEEN GET ATTENTION, THE PROBLEM IS THE ASPHALT -- THE ASPHALT ON TOP ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AND THEY COME BACK. IT IS LIKE -- LUKE A BAD PLUM THAT COMES BACK IF YOU DON'T TAKE IT OUT AND HARVEST IT IN TIME. I THINK YOU ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB. I THINK THAT MAYBE TO DIRECT MORE TIME DURING THESE MONTHS TO DITCH CLEANING NUMBER ONE. AND THEN SEE HOW WE PUT THE WATER SOMEWHERE ELSE, NUMBER TWO. AND THEN PRAY THAT THE BAY DOESN'T CONTINUE GETTING WARMER LIKE HAS BEEN THE LAST MONTH. AND IF IT DOES, WE WILL HAVE A REAL PROBLEM DURING THE SUMMER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH WHAT YOU DO ON A DAILY BASIS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU. A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS FOR THE OBVIOUS REASONS. I KNOW WE WILL BE HAVING A TOWN HALL IN NORTH TAMPA ON APRIL 14. AND STAFF WILL BE I'M DOING THAT SO EVERYONE IN NORTH COMPANY CAN KNOW WHAT THE CITY IS DOING TO PREPARE FOR HURRICANE SEASON IN EVERYTHING. AND YOU KNOW I WANT TO HEAR FROM STAFF NOT ONLY ON THINGS -- THE BIG BUZZ THE PUMPS AND GENERATORS. THE BIG BUS THERE. AND THE DAILY THINGS FROM BEING DONE AT INCREASED PACE. ANYTHING THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM LAST YEAR. OBVIOUSLY LAST YEAR, WE HAD AN OUT OF CONTROL STORM. TWO STORMS. BUT EVERYTHING -- EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT AND ENHANCED FROM LAST YEAR, ETC. JUST SO THE PEOPLE CAN KNOW. THAT IS IMPORTANT. THE PEOPLE OUT THERE IN NORTH TAMPA HAVE BEEN TRAUMATIZED OBVIOUSLY. AND SO, I -- I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT I THINK THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING LIKE I IS ALWAYS SAY, I TRUST STAFF. I DO. I AM AN ATTORNEY. I AM AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. I AM NOT AN ENGINEER. YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY HEAR THINGS AND I MAKE MY OPINIONS KNOWN. BUT A LOT OF IT IS TRUSTING THE PROFESSIONALS TO DO WHAT Y'ALL SHOULD DO. THAT IS IMPORTANT LONG TERM. BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING OF DAY-TO-DAY FIXES. LOOKING FORWARD TO HEAR WHAT THE COUNTY -- THE COUNTY-WIDE INDEPENDENT REVIEW IS GOING TO FIND WITH WHAT WE HAVE TO DO LONG TERM TO MAKE SURE WE CAN WITHSTAND STORMS AND HOW MUCH THAT WILL COST US BECAUSE THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE I HAVE A GOOD FEELING THAT SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE WILL COST A LOT OF MONEY. WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A VERY GOOD DIALOGUE WITH PEOPLE ON IT. AND I THINK THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION THROUGH OUR REPRESENTATIVES DID REQUEST THIS YEAR FUNDS FROM TALLAHASSEE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND TO CORRECT -- I WOULD ASSUME SO. YES. >>JEAN DUNCAN: THAT'S CORRECT. AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE COUNTERPARTS IN TALLAHASSEE AND FEDERAL OPPORTUNITIES. WE HAVE A LITTLE TAGLINE. OPM, THE PEOPLE'S MONEY AND WE LIVE AND BREATHE THAT LITERALLY. SO, YES, WE ARE ALWAYS OUT AND SEEKING -- TRYING TO MR. A GOOD RELATIONSHIP AS WELL THAT OFTEN TRANSLATES TO GOOD PARTNERSHIPS AND PAYS DIVIDENDS OFF. IF WE CAN GET A GOOD SHARING OF INFORMATION WITH OTHER AGENCIES. >>LUIS VIERA: GREAT. BECAUSE THE PEOPLE OUT THERE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO HELP US ON THAT ISSUE. AND SO THAT IS VERY, VERY GOOD. YOU KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN MENTIONED THE ISSUE OF THE DEPARTMENT DIVISION, STORMWATER WITH MOBILITY. I MENTIONED THAT BEFORE. I AM HAVING TALKS WITH PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT ON IT TO FIND OUT WHY DO WE DO THIS. WHY DO WE DO THIS? AGAIN, I HAVE MY BACKGROUND ON IT. BUT I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PROFESSIONALS ON IT. BUT I DO TEND TO AGREE WITH THE IDEA THAT WITH A STILL OUR SIZE, THERE IS A -- THERE IS MORE THAN REASONABLE BASIS TO SAY WE SHOULD HAVE A SEPARATE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT. BUT AGAIN LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVE THAT PRIVATE DIALOGUE. THINGS YOU DON'T KNOW, RIGHT. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE EXTENT THAT IS RELEVANT. AND ONE I THINK I WILL ALSO TELL PEOPLE AND I AM NOT AN INSURANCE AGENT. WE WERE IN MARCH. TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR INSURANCE. I MEAN THAT. TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR INSURANCE. AGAIN I'M NOT AN INSURANCE AGENT. I AM NOT OFFERING PROFESSIONAL ADVICE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR INSURANCE POLICY WHAT IS IS COVERED AND WHAT IS NOT COVERED. I AM IN ZONE X AND GETTING FLOOD INSURANCE. I NEVER GOTTEN FLOOD INSURANCE AND I JUST AM. SO I WOULD INDIVIDUALLY -- MY INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR POLICIES NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE. BECAUSE IF LAST YEAR TAUGHT US ANYTHING, YOU NEVER KNOW, RIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY. BUT, AGAIN, THANK YOU DIE INS VERY MUCH FOR THIS. APPRECIATE IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. >>LYNN HURTAK: AND I ALWAYS LET -- WHILE I AGREE WITH THE ACRONYM OPM, OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. I LIKE TO THINK OF IT GETTING OUR MONEY BACK BECAUSE IT IS STILL OUR MONEY. GET MORE OF THAT TO COME BACK IN-HOUSE IS VERY IMPORTANT. HE TO -- I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT A FEW THINGS I DID LEARN WHILE I WAS AT BEACH PARK. AND I THINK THIS LAST PICTURE IS A REALLY GOOD EXPLAINER OF THAT. DITCHES ARE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. OH, THAT IS NOT -- I AM -- >>JEAN DUNCAN: JUMPING AHEAD ON US. >>LYNN HURTAK: DITCHES ARE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. WE -- I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT FOLKS WHO ARE TO GET A DITCH CLEARED OUT WILL CALL AND COMPLAIN TO CITY COUNCIL OR TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, MY GRASS IS GOING TO BE HURT. WELL, I AM GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, IF YOU CALL MY OFFICE TO DO THAT, I'M NOT GOING TO BE SYMPATHETIC. NO. AND I NEED ALL OF YOU TO HAVE THE EXACT TAME OF SAME REACTION. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CLEAN THESE DICHLS. -- DITCHES. NO LONGER ABOUT MAKING YOUR GRASS BEAUTIFUL. IT IS STORMWATER. A GOOD HALF A FOOT ON SOME OF THESE AND THE REASONS WE ARE TOLD, WELL, PEOPLE DON'T WANT THE DITCH CLONED. IT -- DITCH CLEANED. IT IS PART EVER OUR YARDS. YOU HAVE MAINTAIN IT BUT IT IS OURS. CHALLENGE ALL FOLKS TO KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE CLEARING OUT DITCHES. TO GET SUPPORT MY OTHER THING WHEN I ASKED WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO. YOUR STAFF ASKED ME TO MENTION, PLEASE DON'T PUT YOUR YARD DEBRIS INTO STORM TRAINS. WHATEVER THAT MEET BE. AND I AM REALLY HOPING -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ON THE STREET. >>LYNN HURTAK: -- WHAT IS IN THE STREET GOES INTO OUR SYSTEM. YOU CAN'T BLOW IN THE STREET, IT IS NOT LEGAL. HOPING OUR COMMUNICATION TEAM CAN DO SOME GREAT INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEOS ESPECIALLY AS MOWING SEASON IS STARTING AGAIN. WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. TO REALLY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE NOT TO, SO THERE IS LESS WORK FOR YOU ALL OVERALL. BUT I WANT TO GO BACK TO A COUPLE OF THINGS. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TEN SWEEPER EMPLOYEES. BUT I HAD A COUCOMPLAINTS OF NO SEEING STREET SWEEPERS. I HAVE A CONTRACT COMING UP SOON HOP HOW MANY STREET SWEERPS WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND WHAT IS THE CONTRACT HE BELIEVE YOU ARE GOING TO BRING US TO LET THEY ARE MONTH. >> BRIAN ROGER, MOBILITY. WE HAVE SEVEN SWEERPS AND LEASE THOSE. THAT CONTRACT IS THE LEASE AGLEAM FOR THE MACHINES. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE WILL BE RENEWING. DO YOU HAVE ANY NEED TO LEASE MORE THAN THE SEVEN THAN WE LEASE RIGHT NOW. >> NOT AT THIS TIME. WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH OUR 06-DAY GOAL OF GETTING OUR ROUTES DOWN. WE ARE BEHIND BECAUSE OF THE STORMS AND WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF RELIEF SEASON. >>LYNN HURTAK: IN YOUR PIE GRAPH, SAYS 43 STORMWATER FIELD EMPLOYEES. I KNOW YOU HAVE THREE ZONALS. HOW MANY ARE IN EACH ZONE? >> EIGHT TO TEN FOLKS. WE HAVE A CITY WIDE CONSTRUCTION TEAM THAT DOES MICRO PROJECTS. ONE PARTNERSHIP HERE. A TRENCH GRADE HERE AND THERE. THEY ACTIVELY WORK ON THOSE AND REACTIVES. >>LYNN HURTAK: TEN PLUS TEN PLUS TEN ARE ONLY 30. THE 13 ARE THE HOT SPOT. >> SPELL HAVE TO SEE HOW WE ORIENT AND RESIZE THE TEAMS. THREE ZONES WITH TEN TO 12 MOWS. THEN FOR CONSTRUCTION. >>LYNN HURTAK: FOR CONSTRUCTION. I AM SIMPLY GOING TO ASK, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE NEED TO HANDLE BOTH THE REGULAR MAINTENANCE AND REACTIVE. WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE MORE FTEs OR DO YOU THINK CONTRACTORS CAN HANDLE IT? >>JEAN DUNCAN: IF I CAN JUMP IN. UP WOULD REALLY LIKE TO ANALYZE THAT AND GIVE YOU A MORE EXACT ANSWER THAN RIGHT ON THE SPOT. TALK TO IT RECENTLY. WE ARE DRIFTING FROM OUR 80/20 WHICH IS OUR INDUSTRY STANDARD. WE WOULD LIKE TO ANALYZE AND GIVE YOU A SORT OF DATABASE ANSWER IF THAT IS OKAY. OBVIOUSLY FTEs AND CONTRACTORS M LIKELY OF WHAT WE WILL NEED. WE NEEDED TO SAY WHAT WILL BE BEST AND HOW MUCH. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT I WOULD LOVE FOR TO YOU TO DO. HAVE KELLY REACH OUT TO YOU WITH AT THAT GOOD MOTION AND A TIME HOW LONG IT TAKES TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND COME BACK TO US. SO YOU CAN WORK WITH MY OFFICE. THEN WHENEVER YOU COME UP WITH A DATE, WE CAN COME FORWARD, BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW BEFORE BUDGET SEASON. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A PRIORITY FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA. AND WE HAVE GOT TO GIVE IT ITS DUE. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. IF YOU WANT TO CLOSE IT OUT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A GOOD SEGUE WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. HE BELIEVE -- I HAD CASUAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MAYOR OF THE REALIGNMENTS. AND BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT MOBILITY AND HAVING WAY TOO MUCH ON THE MILLAGE -- HAVING TOO TOUCHDOWN ON THE PLEAT AND ARE YOU GUYS ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN MAYBE LOOKING AT REALIGNMENT RIGHT NOW? ANYTHING HAPPENING ACTIVELY? I THINK SEGUEING ON WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD BE TO A MOTION. BUT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING INTO BUDGET, POSSIBLY BETWEEN SOME KEY COUNCIL FOLKS AND THE ADMINISTRATION AND SOME OTHER FOLKS, MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER ABOUT LOOKING AT THAT AND HOW WE CAN BUDGET FOR IT COMING UP IN THE NEXT FY. SO IF WE FIND THIS IS A CITY PRIORITY NEED AND REACH A CONSENSUS OF AREAS AND SHIFT IT TO THIS BECAUSE THE GRAVITAS OF THE HURRICANES WE JUST EXPERIENCED WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS BEEN HITTING ON SO HARD. ISSUE WITH FIRE STATION SAFETY. ALL OF THESE THINGS. WE KIND OF -- AS WE ARE PUSHING TOWARD BUDGET SEASON, IF WE CAN TAKE THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES, ROLL IT INTO THESE ISSUES AND ALL EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. BECAUSE YOU ARE STARTING TO CRAFT BUDGET GOALS AS WE SPEAK. MAY BE A GOOD TIME TO HAVE THE MEETING OF THE MINDS. IT IS NOT TO DOABLE WITH OUR CURRENT BUDGET STREAMS. AND MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS. I AM SURE SEVERAL OF US WILL BE HAPPY TO BE PART OF THOSE TYPE OF DISCUSSIONS TO TRY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO SOONER WRATH EVERY THAN LATER. I THINK IT AS GOOD IDEA SPITBALLING FROM THE DAIS, I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA. WE TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE GET THESE THINGS DONE QUICKER. THE FIRE STATIONS DONE QUICKER AND GET THESE STUFF DONE. PUTTING TOGETHER THE BUDGET. MAYBE STUFF WE CAN'T AFFORD NEXT YEAR AND TRY TO PRIORITIZE THIS THING COMING UP. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 86 AND 87 GO TOGETHER. WE HAVE MR. ROGERO. ESTELLE P-- HE IS TELEPORTING OVER. LOCK AT THAT. -- IS HE SMILING AND LAUGHING. >> IT WILL BE WONDERFUL ARE YOU DOING THAT FOR ME A? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, MR. ROGERO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S HOW THEY GET YOU. GO DOWN THE POLE. DID YOU AND MIKE PERRY COME DOWN THE BAT POLE. >>DENNIS ROGERO: ASKED FOR IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: START WITH 86 AND 87. >> I WILL START WITH 87 AND IF YOU DON'T MIND CIRCLE BACK TO 86, DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. ITEM 87 STATES, WE ARE PREPARED TO DISCUSS ANY NUMBER OF THINGS UNDER -- UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THIS ITEM, FOR INSTANCE, THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS FROM OUR DECEMBER 19 PRESENTATION FROM LAST YEAR. WE PROVIDED A MEMO WITH RESPONSES. WE ARE PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT. WE RECEIVED SUPPLEMENTAL QUESTIONS. WE WILL BE PREPARED TO ANSWER THOSE. WE CAN SHARE OUR LATEST HURRICANE FINANCIAL PICTURE FROM THE TWO -- TECHNICALLY THREE STORMS LAST YEAR. AND WE CAN ALSO -- I KIND OF GOT THE EMPREGNANCY THIS IS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY OF COUNCIL AT THIS TIME, ADDRESS THE FUND BALANCE. CARRY FORWARD FROM FISCAL YEAR 2024. IT IS UP TO YOU. WE ARE PREPARED TO START WITH THE FUND BALANCE IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S MEASURE. I AM GETTING A -- YES, LET'S DO THAT THEN. IF I CAN HAVE -- AND THERE IT IS. PRESENTATION UP PLEASE. IT HAS BEEN THREE MONTHS SINCE OUR PRESENTATION ON THE GENERAL FUND FINANCIALS, AND YOU RECALL IT LOOKED LIKE THIS. BACK THEN, WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD ROUGH PICTURE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON. AND JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY, VERY POSITIVE. ALMOST $24 MILLION OF REVENUES DOING BETTER THAN ANTICIPATED AND EXPENDITURES DOING -- WELL, TECHNICALLY BETTER THAN ANTICIPATED TOO. WE SPENT LESS. BUT STILL PRETTY TIGHT ON BOTH THOSE. LESS THAN 2% FOR EACH OF THOSE ITEMS. TYPE VERY, VERY POSITIVE. AND OF THAT 20 -- ALMOST 24 MILLION DISCUSSED. WE SHARED YOU WITH THE DECEMBER PRESENTATION. WE WERE GOING TO NEED A COMPONENT OF THAT TO REACH THAT MAGIC 23% FUND BALANCE -- UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE LEVEL ABOUT $11 MILLION OR 12 MILLION AT THAT TIME. YOU TAKE $11 MILLION, $12 MILLION, YOU ARE LEFT WITH GOOD -- STILL GOOD, BUT SUBSTANTIALLY LESS. IN THE NEARLY THREE MONTHS, WE CONTINUE TO CLOSE OUT THE NUMBERS AND REMAIN TO THE BALANCES OF THE GENERAL FUND, RISK FUND, ETC., ETC. THERE BEING EXTERNALLY AUDITED BY AN INDEPENDENT CPA FIRM LITERALLY AS WE SPEAK AS THEY ARE EVERY YEAR. BUT WE ARE VERY, VERY CONFIDENT IN THE FIGURES WE HAVE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THE EXTERNAL AUDITOR WILL MAKE ANY CHANGES. WHAT WE ARE SHARING YOU WITH IS HOT OFF THE PRESSES AND BARRING ANY CHANGES FROM THAT EXTERNAL AUDITOR SR. W-- AUDITORS IS WHA YOU AND THE PEOPLE WILL SEE ON OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO WALK COUNCIL AND PUBLIC IN THE OVERARCHING, AGAIN 50,000-FOOT VIEW OF FUND BALANCE AND BREAK IT DOWN SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR AND EVEN MORE DETAILED SO WE CAN GET TO A POSITION WHERE COUNCIL KNOWS WHAT IS THEY HAVE, QUOTE, UNFEET, GOT TO WORK WITH. HERE YOU SEE IT. THIS IS PURE FUND BALANCE. LITTLE OVER 200 TO 2 MILLION CARRIED OVER FROM LAST YEAR. BEING LOOKED AT. YOU SEE THE DATE YESTERDAY. WE ARE VERY, VERY CONFIDENT THAT THIS NUMBER IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. AND THEN YOU SEE AN ITEMIZATION OF OUR OBLIGATIONS PRIMARILY OUR OBLIGATIONS BUT AT THE TOP, OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY. I GATHER IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE COUNCIL'S HIGHEST PRIORITY ALSO MAINTAINING THAT 23% HISTORICAL FUND BALANCE. OVER ON THE RIGHT, HOW MUCH THAT TAKES FROM THE PURE FUND BALANCE, $149 MILLION. AS WE TALKED ABOUT -- EXCUSE ME. AS WE TALKED ABOUT -- I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO WONKISH AND LEAD EVERYONE DOWN THE WRONG PATH. AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN DECEMBER, $11 MILLION OR $12 MILLION MORE THAN LAST FISCAL YEAR. $149 MILLION AT IT, WE GOT. OTHER OBLIGATIONS. HEALTH CARE, $10.1 MILLION THAT WE NEED TO 'SIGN FROM FUND BALANCES IN ORDER TO KEEP TO ARE MAINTAIN OU70-DAY RESERVE. STATE MINIMUM 06-DAY RESERVE. 70-DAY RESERVE, $10.1 MILLION. PREVIOUS CLAIMS WE STILL OWE ON DEP RAT FROM THE DUE WITH A SETTLEMENT THAT I WILL GET INTO IN JUST A MOMENT. PURCHASE ORDERS FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR. CITY COUNCIL MOTIONS MADE. THE ONLY ONE THAT COMES -- WE CAN GIVE YOU AN ITEMIZATION, BUT THE ONE TO THE TOP OF MY MIND IS THE YBOR ARTS SPACE. HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. A NUMBER ITEMS THAT CITY COUNCIL REQUESTED AND WE EX-PETITION DIETED TO THE TUNE OF A LITTLE OVER $3.5 MILLION. TWO PORTIONS OF THE DUBOIS SETTLEMENT. BULK OF IT WE TOOK OFF $9 MILLION. ON THE HOOK THIS YEAR FOR $3 MILLION AND ANOTHER $2 MILLION NEXT YEAR. AND A MINUTE MALL AMOUNT ASSOCIATED WITH INVENTORIES THAT UNDER FUND BALANCE GUIDELINES ARE SIMPLY NOT SPEND ITABLE. NOT 90. 80%, 176 MILLION. I REMIND COUNCIL THAT PROBABLY NOT NECESSARY IS '23 UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE IS ACTUALLY VITAL TO MAINTAIN OUR EXCELLENT CREDIT SCORES. JUST SO COUNCIL KNOWS, THOUGH, THE $149 MILLION FIGURE, THAT IS ABOUT $20 MILLION MORE THAN OUR POLICY. SOME 20% WILL BE ABOUT 130ISH. SO RIGHT OFF THE BAT, WHAT WE ARE SHOWING YOU HERE IS CONTINUING THAT VERY FIRM FUND BALANCE POSITION AND $19 MILLION TO $20 MILLION. I WILL REMIND THE PUBLIC. OUR POLICY IS 20% BUT WE HAVE BEEN SO FAR ABOVE THAT FOR SO LONG NOT WHAT THE POWERS-AT- BE LOOK AT. THAT LEAVES US SUBMIT A VERY HEALTHY $26 MILLION NICE AND STRONG. STRONGER THAN WE LEFT IT IN DECEMBER, BUT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT ANY NUMBER OF OTHER PRIORITIES AND RISKS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS EXCUSE ME. AND I WILL SHOW THAT RIGHT NOW. ANY NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PAVING AND RESURFACING. COUNCIL HAS CONTINUED TO IDENTIFY IT AS A PRIORITY. WE HAVE -- THIS IS WHERE WITH WE ARE CIRCLING BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 86. ADDITIONAL STORMWATER FUNDING HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. THIS WILL ARE OUR RECOMMENDATION. YES, THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE. WE ARE HANDING OUT THESE -- THESE SLIDES RIGHT NOW. I APOLOGIZE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THESE ARE THE SAME SLIDES THAT YOU ARE. >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR, YES. AND THEN -- SORRY. I WILL WAIT UNTIL YOU ALL GET IT. THE PRESUMPTION ON MY PART, I THOUGHT YOU WERE FOLLOWING ALONG. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU HAVE JOKES. >>DENNIS ROGERO: I ACTUALLY DID YOU WERE FOLLOWING ALONG -- I MEAN FOLLOWING ALONG ON THE HARD COPY. FLOODING ASSISTANCE OF $1 MILLION HAS BEEN SURFACED ALSO THEN THE NEXT TWO ITEMS, SETTING SIDE FUNDING FOR THE ADVERSE IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE HURRICANES. YOU HAVE PROPERTY TAX ADVERSE IMPACTS. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BE? THE SHORT ANSWER -- AND I WILL GET INTO MORE DETAIL IN A MINUTE IS, WE DON'T KNOW. WE ANTICIPATE THERE WILL BE IMPACTS IN THE CURKERR YEAR AND WILL HAVE CURRENT IMPACTS IN 2026. I WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MOMENT. INSURANCE INCREASESES FROM A MACRO PERSPECTIVE. NOT ONLY HURRICANES HERE BUT THE WILDFIRES IN CALIFORNIA. ANYBODY WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THIS ANTICIPATES THERE WILL BE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ASSOCIATED WITH INSURANCE INCREASES. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT WILL BE TRUE TENT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING OVER AND ABOVE OUR UNDERSIGNED 23%. THAT IS A QUESTION THAT WE WILL DISCUSS. AND REPLENISHING THE FUNDING, THE EMERGENCY FUNDING WE USED FOR THE TWO HURRICANES. ONE HURRICANE HIT US IN FISCAL YEAR '24. OTHER HURRICANE HIT US IN FISCAL YEAR '25. IF IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE HURRICANES EVER HURRICANES WHERE YOU WILL SEE WE USED $14 MILLION OF THAT EMERGENCY FUNDING. SO, AGAIN, FROM KIND OF A BIG PICTURE POINT OF VIEW, $26 MILLION TO IDENTIFY BASED ON COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN. AND I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE READY TO MAKE A DECISION RIGHT NOW. I UNDERSTAND WE ARE SHARING THIS INFORMATION YOU WITH RIGHT NOW. WE ARE MISSING A MEMBER. BUT IF NOTHING ELSE, I THINK IT WILL ALLOW YOU TO ABSORB THE INFORMATION AT SOME POINT PRIORITIZE WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE THE FUND BALANCE TO END UP. I CAN QUESTIONS NOW OR CONTINUE A LITTLE BIT WITH TALKING ABOUT THE AD VALOREM REVENUE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HURTAK, CLENDENIN AND VIERA. >>LYNN HURTAK: WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THE HURRICANES TOO. IF YOU HAVE ANY SLIDES. BECAUSE I THINK THAT -- I THINK WE ASKED A QUESTION OF REIMBURSEMENT AND HOW MUCH WE HAVE SPENT AND HOW MUCH -- DO WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS? >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE DO, AND WE HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALSO. IN FACT, MR. PERRY CAN PASS IT OUT TO YOU NOW. IF COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH IT, I WOULD AT LEAST PUT A PIN IN THIS FUND BALANCE AND GET INTO THE HURRICANE PRESENTATION. BUT I CAN BE FLEXIBLE DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. SO I WILL WAIT FOR THAT. AARON RODGERS THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE OTHER WAS -- I SUPPORT THE 23%. >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HEARD YOU SAY THIS BEFORE, "OUR POLICY." WHERE DOES THAT POLICY COME FROM? >>DENNIS ROGERO: OUR INTERNAL POLICY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST AN IMAGINARY THING CLENDENIN CLENDENIN FROM NOW ON, CAN WE SAY OUR POLICY IS 23%? >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE COULD. AND, AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. IS IT -- THE ONLY RISK OF THAT IS. IF YOU ARE THE CREDIT AGENCY, YOU ARE NOT -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU PUBLISH THAT 23% TO THE RATING AGENCY? >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT IS PART. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT ONLY INTERNAL BUT EXTERNAL. >>DENNIS ROGERO: MAYBE I MISCOMMUNICATED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DIDN'T HIT IT AARON RODGERS EXACTLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU SAID IT WASN'T COMMUNICATED EXTERNALLY THEN I UNDERSTOOD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHEN TALK OF USING ANY FUNDS. I WOULD BE REMISS AND A FAILURE OF PEOPLE WHO WILL SUFFER SO MUCH IN THE CITY IF I DIDN'T TALK OF GIVING ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR PEOPLE WHO LOST EVERYTHING IN A HURRICANE. WE APPROPRIATED $3.5 MILLION MORE OR LESS FOR THAT. AND -- AND I GOT A GOOD FEELING THAT MONEY IS GOING TO DRY UP VERY SOON. REALLY, REALLY SOON. AND IF WE DIDN'T APPROPRIATE A PORTION OF THIS TO THAT, I -- I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REAL MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH HELL AND THEY ARE BEGGING USES TO THROW SOME ICE CUBES ON THEM, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND GOT TO BE PRIORITY. I BELIEVE THE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BECOME AVAILABLE TOWARD THE END OF MARCH. A LOT OF THINGS HAVE HAD TO HAPPEN IN THE MEANWHILE, BUT, AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT THINGS -- SOME OTHER THINGS THAT COUNCIL HAS FUND ED I THINK OF THE THINS THAT NEED TO BE FUND. HELPING OUT PEOPLE. IT IS MARCH. THIS HAPPENED OCTOBER 10 -- OCTOBER 9 AND OCTOBER 10. THEY STILL ARE NOT BACK IN THEIR HOMES AND STILL NEED ASSISTANCE. A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE WHEN THEY GO ON THE SYSTEM TO GET THOSE FUNDS MAY NOT GET FUND. THEY ARE CAPPED AT $20,000. I THINK A ROBUST AMOUNT IF WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT IS. AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THIS SOMETHING SOMETHING WILL BE IN DISPUTE. A COUNCIL WHERE EVERYBODY HAS GOOD HEARTS AND WANT TO HELP PEOPLE AND SO FORTH. I AM NOT TALKING OF SOME MASSIVE PERCENTAGE OF IT AND ANYTHING OF THAT NAY CHAIR. ADDING ANOTHER MILLION OR SOMETHING TO THAT I THINK WILL MAKE SENSE. IF YOU PUT IN OTHER MILLION DOLLARS TO THAT YOU WILL HELP. I CAN DO THE MATH ON THE SPOT BUT HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE. A SAYING IF BY GOING A FEW FEET, IT WILL HELP YOU WALK A FEW MILES. I WILL GO THOSE COUPLE OF FEET I THINK AS A COUNCIL, WE SHOULD GO THROUGH THOSE FEET. WE ARE MA MARCH AND HAVEN'T DISPERSED THE FUNDS FOR THE HURRICANES, HURRICANES IN OCTOBER. WE WILL GET FEDERAL FUNDS. THEY WILL GO THROUGH THE COUNTY. WE DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WILL BE UTILIZED. ARE A LOT OF THEM GOING TO INFRASTRUCTURE? REMEMBER THESE ARE FUNDS IF WE APPROPRIATE IT CAN BE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW -- RIGHT NOW. WHEREAS, IF I WAIT FOR FUNDS THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR A WHILE, PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO BE HURTING AND CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH HELL. SO I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT MEASURES LIKE THAT. BY THE WAY, THE FLIPSIDE IS. BLACK AND BITE AND ALWAYS GRAY. THE GREATER THIS IS, WHAT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT IN TALLAHASSEE, TALKING OF A LOT OF MEASURES RIGHT NOW TO LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO COLLECT REVENUE ALL THE WAY FROM GETTING RID OF PROPERTY TAXES TO READING DIFFERENT THINGS ON ROLLBACK RATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT CAN SERVE TO SIGNIFICANTLY HAMPER US AND WE NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE WITH THAT. AND TALKING ABOUT A MEASURE OF THIS TO GO WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL SLEEPING ON COUCHES, OF FRIENDS, STILL CRYING EVERY NIGHT. STILL GOING THROUGH HELL FOR ME IS JUST THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND DOESN'T CONFLICT IN ANY WAY TO FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. I AM SURE I AM PREACHING TO THE CHOIR. BUT IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LOOKING AT WHAT YOU HAVE FROM NIMA AND FTED. >>LYNN HURTAK: HE HAVEN'T AGAIN THE PRESENTATION YET. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PARDON ME? I WANT TO GET AHEAD OF HIM. >>DENNIS ROGERO: WELL, YOU HAVE SUCCEEDED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: KEEP GOING. I WILL WAIT. NO PROBLEM. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I AM SCHOOLED RIGHT. >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD. THAT IS THE FORTHCOMING PRESENTATION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S TALK OF THE 2024 HURRICANE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. >>DENNIS ROGERO: CAN I HAVE THE HURRICANE PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. AND, AGAIN, YOU SEE IDENTIFIED AS PUBLIC ASSISTANCE TO DIFFERENTIATE FROM MANY OTHER COMPONENTS OF FUNDING. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA ANNOUNCED THE COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT FOR DISASTER RECOVERY WHICH IS IN PLAY RIGHT NOW. LITTLE OVER 700 MILLION AS YOU STAYED COUNCILMAN TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. AND WE, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COUNTY AND THE OTHER TWO MUNI MUNICIPALS -- MUNICIPALITY ARE TASKED WITH AN ACTION PLAN AND EARLY ON IN TERMS OF HOW IT IS GOING TO BE SPENT. THIS IS THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. REIMBURSEMENT TO THE LOCALITIES FOR -- FOR DAMAGE ASSOCIATED WITH THE HURRICANES. SO THAT IS WHY WE HAVE GONE OUT OF OUR WAY TO IDENTIFY IT AS WHAT WE AFFECTIONATELY CALL P.A. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. CAN I GET THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. A QUICK REFRESH ON THE PROS SES. MANY, MANY PLAYERS. AND WILL TAKE A LEAD IN REVENUE AND FINANCE AND WITH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. CONTRACTED WITH WHITT O'BRIAN. A WELL KNOWN EXPERT CONTRACTOR IN THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT. SELECT MANAGERS AND MR. REMER, OUR SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY OFFICER AGO OUT OF THE WAY TO SAY THAT BECAUSE IT IS A WEB AND WILL BE MORE COMPLICATED WITH THE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE THE MONEY BUT LITTLE COMPLEX WITH SEARCHING AND DISTRIBUTING THE FUNDING. REPAIR AND REMEDIATION OF CITY FACILITIES IS ONGOING. IT WILL KEEP ONGOING. GORILLA IN THE ROOM, I GUESS, WAS THE DEBRIS REMOVAL. EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT WE DID A GREAT JOB. WE RECEIVED A GREAT DEAL OF FUNDING FOR THAT WHICH I WILL SHARE YOU WITH IN JUST A MOMENT, BUT BY NO MEANS EN AND WON'T END FOR SOME TIME IF OUR EXPERIENCE IS ANY INDICATION. YOU MADE IT COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA WORKING CLOSELY WITH FEMA AND THE FDEM, THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. SO MANY DIFFERENT PLAYERS AT SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS AND WE HAVE DONE IT BEFORE. WE HAVE DONE IT BEFORE EITHER WITH PREVIOUS HURRICANE REIMBURSEMENTS AND DONE IT BEFORE WITH THE AMERICAN -- WHAT DOES IT STAND FOR, AMERICAN RECOVERY. WE CAN DO IT. WE ARE VERY ADEPARTMENT -- ADEPT AT IT, BUT WE CAN DO IT AGAIN AND SOME OF IT ARE REFRESH FOR COUNCIL BUT FOR THE PUBLIC. WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN AND WITHIN OUR OWN PROTOCOLS AND POLICIES FROM A PROCUREMENT PERSPECTIVE. A LOT OF Ps IN THAT SENTENCE. BY AND LARGE, FEMA AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL LOOK AT YOU -- FIRST OF ALL, DID YOU ADHERE TO YOUR OWN POLICIES. IF YOU DID AND YOU DO, A BIG LEAP FORWARD CUTTING THROUGH RED TAPE AND RESISTANCE. YOU SEE WE HAVE IDENTIFIED -- MAYBE THIS IS PROBABLY MORE THAT BE YOU WANT TO KNOW. BUT YOU SEE HERE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE LOCALIZE THE DAMAGE AND THE DOLLARS TO THE STORM WHEN WE CAN. HELENE AND MILTON HIT SO CLOSE TOGETHER THAT IT GOT A LITTLE -- IT GOT A LITTLE NEBULOUS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE -- WITH THE DEBRIS. BUT ALSO, YOU SEE HERE IN THAT LAST BULLET, WE DON'T WANT TO MUDDY UP OR INTERFERE WITH THE DEPARTMENT'S OPERATING BUDGETS. BECAUSE THE CITY IS STILL RUNNING, RIGHT. WE HAVE MISSIONS TO COMPLETE. SO WE KEEP IT SEPARATE AND APART FROM A ACCOUNTING PERSPECTIVE THAT ALSO ASSISTS US GREATLY WHEN INEVIDENTLY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COMES IN A YEAR OR TWO LATER AND AUDITS EVERYTHING WE DID AT THE STORM RECOVERY INCEPTION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH I SPECIFICALLY WON'T GO THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A FEEL FOR HOW COMPLEX AND COMPLICATED THIS PROCESS IS A LOT OF FUNDING. FEDERAL FUNDING FOR EVERY NUMBER OF LOCALITIES, CITIES, COUNTIES, STATE, ETC. GREAT SENSE OF BUREAUCRACY. A GREAT HISTORY AND WILL HAVE VERY GOOD PERMS WITH THIS. BUT THERE IS A LOT TO IT THAT WE INTENTIONALLY TRY TO KEEP IN THE BACKGROUND. AND IN TERMS OF COST SHARING. THE IDENTIFICATION OF COSTS. OF COURSE, YOU SEE THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED AND RECEIVED INITIAL DAMAGE ESTIMATES. WE CONTINUE TO UPDATE THOSE AS MORE INFORMATION BECOMES AVAILABLE. FEDERAL AND STATE REIMBURSEMENT INSURANCE CLAIMS AND THE LOCAL MATCH, WHICH I WILL GET INTO -- I WILL GET INTO RIGHT NOW, I GUESS, THIS TERMS OF THE COST SHARING. GENERALLY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL PROVIDE THREE QUARTERS, 75%. REMAINING 25% GENERALLY THE STATE WILL PROVIDE HALF OF THAT, WHICH LEAVES THE CITY ON THE LOOK HOOK FOR 12.5%. YOU SEE THE EXEMPTION, THE GLARING EXCEPTION. THE THANKFUL GLARING EXCEPTION IN TERMS OF DEBRIS REMOVAL 100% REIMB REIMBURSABLE. THAT IS A BIG PLUS. EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE MEASURES FOR THAT FIRST 120 DAYS, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL TAKE UP 100% OF THAT. AND YOU GET TO THAT 75/25 SPLIT. AND THE DAMAGED CITY INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE VERY BOTTOM. SO TYPICALLY BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE, THE CITY IS ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE TO FIND US SOMETHING. PART OF OUR JOB IS MITT GATING 40U67 THAT "SOMETHING" IS GOING TO BE AND IF TRULY DOES TAKE EVERYONE'S INVOLVEMENT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I WILL GIVE THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY A GREAT DEAL OF CREDIT FOR PARTIAL PAYMENT YOU SEE HERE. WE HAVE REQUESTED THREE EXPEDITED PROJECTS. FIRST MILTON CATEGORY A DEBRIS. WE REQUESTED $60 MILLION. AND WE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED NEARLY $30 MILLION. UNPRECEDENTED IN MY EXPERIENCE WORKING IN GOVERNMENT IN FLORIDA FOR LONGER THAN I WOULD CARE TO ADMIT. CUE TOES TO THEM. THEY TURNED IT AROUND VERY, VERY FAST OPPOSED TO OWING US WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH HOW IT HAS GONE IN THE PAST. US HAVING TO FLEETOAT THE MONEY THEY GAVE US COLD HARD EARNED CASH. KUDOS TO THEM IN AND MILTON WITH CATEGORY B, REQUESTED 10 MILLION AND WE HAVEN'T GOT ANYTHING LEFT, AND HELENE CATEGORYB. GREAT A BIT OF TURN AROUND TIME. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY INTEND TO DEDICATE THAT TEMPLATE. THEY VIEW IT AS VERY SUCCESSFUL. TIME WILL TELL IF THEY WILL TURN AROUND THESE OTHER REQUESTS AS FAST BUT WE HAVE $29 MILLION. THE NEXT BULLET, CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH FEMA. WE HAD OUR EXPLORATORY KNOWN CALLS SHORTLY AFTER THE HURRI HURRICANES. THE RECOVERY SCOPING MEETINGS AND THEY WILL COME DOWN NEXT MONTH AND VISIT WITH CITY STAFF IN THEIR ENTIRETY. THEY ARE COMING DOWN LOOKING AT OUR INFORMATION ALREADY, BUT NEED TO PUT THEIR EYES ON EVERYTHING -- TO THE AS LEAST A GOOD SAMPLING OF EVERYTHING THAT WHICH SUBMITTED TO THEM THAT IS DAMAGED. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. HERE WE GO INTO THE COLD HARD NUMBERS AS TO THE END OF LAST MONTH. YOU SEE HERE, WHEN WE USE THE $14 MILLION IN OUR EMERGENCY RESERVES, OKAY. THAT WAS THE $7 MILLION LAST YEAR AND THE $7 MILLION THIS YEAR. FEMA FDEP REIMBURSEMENT FOR BUDGETING, $92-PLUS MILLION. YOU SEE THE ACTUAL, IT IS ABOUT A THIRD OF THAT. WELL, MUCH LIKE FINANCING AND PROJECTS AND CONSTRUCTION, REIMBURSEMENT FOR DESTRUCTION ALSO TAKES TIME. AND SOME OF THIS IS SIMPLY A PROJECTION OF WHEN THESE REIMBURSEMENTS WILL HAPPEN. WHEN WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE TO FLOAT CASH OPPOSED TO BUDGETING WHAT WE THINK WILL HAVE TO MAKE DUE WITH. AND YOU SEE A TOTAL OVER $106 MILLION. BUT LITTLE LESS THAN HALF OF THAT IN ACTUALS RIGHT NOW. YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM WE ARE FLOATING. FLOATING $10 MILLIONISH. AT THE VERY BOTTOM, EXCUSE ME, $22 MILLION OF PURCHASE ORDERS OUTSTANDING. SO WE WILL BE FLOATING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WHICH IS NOT UNANTICIPATED AND MANY LOCALITIES ARE DOING THE SAME THING. YOU HEARD ME MENTION BEFORE AND READ THAT THE CITY OF ST. PETE, FOR INSTANCE, TOOK OUT A 50 ODD MILLION DOLLAR LOAN IN LIEU OF FLOATING THE $50 ODD MILLION DOLLARS. STILL AT THIS TIME, WE STILL DO NOT ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL NEED TO FINANCE THIS. WE HAVE STRONG. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE INVOICES THAT WE ARE EXPECTING TO COLLECT. >>DENNIS ROGERO: THEY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT A $10 MILLION SHORTFALL THAT IS ANTICI ANTIC ANTICIPATED. >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE SAYING THE SAME >>DENNIS ROGERO: I HAVE NO IDEA. IT -- IS IT A CONCERN? ABSOLUTELY. AS YOU HEARD MANY TIMES. WHAT I CAN SAY IS FEDERAL AND DISMANTLING THAT ORGANIZATION IN ITS ENTIRELY. I COULDN'T -- I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHETHER THAT MEANS ALSO DISMANTLING OR GETTING RID OF ALL REIMBURSEMENT FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH IT FROM WHAT ITSELF MAY BE VIEW BUT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LIKE AT THOSE NUMBERS AND I CAN'T REALIZE COME WE ARE NOT GETTING SOME DAYCARE WOMEN YOU WITH PUT IN MUCH MORE. >> ASKED TO RECOVER FOR CDBG. THAT IS ALSO POTENTIALLY VULNERABLE FROM A FEDERAL PERSPECTIVE. WE JUST DON'T KNOW WITH THE COUNTY AND THE >>LYNN HURTAK: THE FUNDS FROM MILTON. . >> SO TO GET US TO THE 23%. THAT IS -- >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, NO, I AM TALKING ABOUT THE. >>LYNN HURTAK: SET ASIDE FOR ADDI ADDITIONAL. >>LYNN HURTAK: SO YOU SAID YOU DID HAVE AN ELMO SLIDE FOR IT. O OWE. >>LUIS VIERA: THAT. >>LUIS VIERA: -- VERSUS THE CITY OF TAMPA. I WOULD SAY, THOUGH, THAT WITH ANY FUNDS WE GET THAT MOBILITY TALK TO COUNCIL MEMBERS BECAUSE WE, JUST LIKE OBVIOUSLY LIKE THE MAYOR, WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR OWN COMMUNITIES AND ESPECIALLY, AGAIN, CITYWIDE AS WELL AS DISTRICT PEOPLE, BUT ESPECIALLY DISTRICT FOLKS. I THINK THAT'S SO IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO USE THOSE FUNDS AND IDEAS FROM US. AGAIN, WE KNOW WHAT WE HEAR FROM PEOPLE. AND THERE ARE OBJECTIVE FINDINGS THAT PEOPLE IN MOBILITY OBVIOUSLY HAVE, BUT ALSO I THINK WHAT YOU HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY IS ALSO VERY, VERY IMPORTANT AS WELL. AND, YES, MA'AM, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED A LIST OF WHERE IT'S GOING. THEY DECIDED THAT FOR US. I FORWARDED IT TO YOU ALL WHEN I GOT IT FROM THE TPO. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANY RULE TO ARGUE. >>LUIS VIERA: LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I DID SEE THAT, BECAUSE I SAW THAT THERE WAS A PORTION OF, I THINK IT WAS BRUCE B. DOWNS -- STRIKE THAT, ON BRUCE B. DOWNS, FOWLER TO BEARSS. I WAS GOING TO SEE IF ANY OF THAT, THAT WAS KIND OF MY WAY OF SEEING IF THAT COULD BE REVISITED. THINGS I'M HEARING IN NEW TAMPA AND NORTH TAMPA, IT IS NOT THAT SECTION THEY ARE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF DISTRICT 7. UNFORTUNATELY, AGAIN, I DO WISH WE WOULD HAVE BEEN TALKED TO ON THINGS LIKE THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TALK TO YOUR STATE LEGISLATOR. >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW. BELIEVE YOU ME. BUT IN TERMS OF WHERE THOSE FUNDS, AGAIN, TO THE EXTENT THAT FUNDS ARE GOING TO GO TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, RIGHT, THAT WE CAN BE A PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS. I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, IN TERMS OF WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, MOBILITY AND SO FORTH. BUT AGAIN, GOING BEYOND WHAT YOU ARE HERE FOR, BUT BRINGING UP THAT ISSUE AS A SIDE ISSUE. I SAW THAT LIST AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT? I MEAN, I HEAR ABOUT ROADS ALL THE TIME AND NORTH TAMPA AND 30th IS BEING DONE, NORTH BOULEVARD IS BEING DONE, BUT NEW TAMPA BOULEVARD, FINISHING OFF TAMPA PALMS BOULEVARD, NOT BEING TOUCHED THERE. THE AMOUNT OF DISCONNECT IS GREAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES THAT COMPLETE 87 AND GO TO 86? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE GAP, CLEARLY WE'VE HAD THE EXPENDITURES FOR THE HURRICANES, ALL THE EXPENDITURES, FUNDING THIS, WAITING FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT. ARE WE ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL? >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, IF I COULD ADD A LITTLE DETAIL ASSOCIATED WITH IT. AGAIN, I'M OVERSIMPLIFYING A LITTLE BIT. AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THE STRENGTHS OF HAVING SUCH A FIRM FUND BALANCE. WE WILL, FOR INSTANCE, DEBRIS REMOVAL. WE WILL PULL FUNDING AS APPLICABLE FROM NON-GENERAL FUND FUNDS. BUT WITH THAT STRONG FUND BALANCE AND OUR LIQUIDITY, WE CAN AFFORD TO SIMPLY FLOAT THESE EXPENDITURES AS OPPOSED TO, AGAIN, FINANCING AND INCURRING THE INTEREST EXPENSE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. WILL IT COST US -- I'M SORRY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW LONG CAN WE KEEP THAT UP BEFORE IT ACTUALLY STARTS HURTING? >>DENNIS ROGERO: IN OUR PROJECTIONS, SO FAR IT HASN'T REACHED THAT IT WILL START HURTING PART YET BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF THE EXPENSES AND, AGAIN, IT'S A BIT OF AN EDUCATED GUESS, THE ANTICIPATED TIME FRAME OF THE REIMBURSEMENT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO WE GO INTO HURRICANE SEASON, WE HAVE A HURRICANE IN SEPTEMBER AND WE STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN REIMBURSEMENTS, IT'S GOING TO START HURTING. >>DENNIS ROGERO: SAY AGAIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SAY WE HAVE ANOTHER HURRICANE IN SEPTEMBER. >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES. I IMAGINE, AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OF THE HURRICANE AND THE DAMAGE, WE MAY REACH THAT TIPPING POINT THAT YOU DESCRIBE. OF COURSE, IF WE DO, OR IF OUR PROJECTIONS SHOW THAT WE WILL, WE'LL BRING IT TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL'S ATTENTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY, THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM 86, THE LAST ITEM OF THE DAY. >>DENNIS ROGERO: 86, THAT IS THE $500,000, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THE MOST EXPEDIENT FORM OF FUNDING WOULD BE FROM THIS FUND BALANCE FROM FISCAL YEAR '24. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD. DO YOU NEED AN OFFICIAL MOTION? >>DENNIS ROGERO: I BELIEVE WE DO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL MOVE THE HALF MILLION TO GO FROM THIS -- FROM THE UNUSED GENERAL FUND BALANCE FROM FISCAL YEAR 2024 TO GO TOWARDS STORMWATER FOR PREPARATION FOR THIS YEAR'S RAINY SEASON. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, SECOND FROM CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT ARE OUR NEXT STEPS? >>DENNIS ROGERO: OUR NEXT STEPS, I THINK WOULD BE TO, FIRST, DIGEST THIS INFORMATION. WE REALLY TRIED TO -- AND I APOLOGIZE, AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY GIVE ME FEEDBACK IF WE'VE GOTTEN TOO DETAILED, BUT I DID WANT COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC TO SEE THE ENTIRETY OF THE PICTURE AS OPPOSED TO SIMPLE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK THE NEXT STEP IS TO DIGEST THIS INFORMATION AND THEN COME BACK AND PRIORITIZE HOW YOU'D LIKE TO ALLOCATE THIS FUND BALANCE AND THEN WE CAN MAKE IT. WHAT YOU WON'T SEE CHANGE, AGAIN, BARRING ANY EXTERNAL AUDITOR ACTION, IS THAT $200.2 MILLION FIGURE, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE NICE AND CONSISTENT, WHAT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO SEE IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. AGAIN, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE FOR THE 23%, IN WHICH CASE, AGAIN, IT IS THE 26 -- AND THE OBLIGATIONS THAT ARE REALLY NON-DISCRETIONARY. THE NEXT STEPS FOR ME WOULD BE TO DIGEST THE INFORMATION AND PRIORITIZE WHERE COUNCIL THINKS THIS FUNDING SHOULD BE SET ASIDE. >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION OF REPLENISHING THIS EMERGENCY FUND. >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: SO NORMALLY AN EMERGENCY FUND IS SORT OF LIKE A RAINY DAY FUND. AND FOR ONE FISCAL YEAR TO THE NEXT, WE KIND OF FLOAT IT, THE SAME $7 MILLION. BUT IN THIS CASE, WE COULDN'T FLOAT THE $7 MILLION BECAUSE WE USE IT FOR HELENE AND DEBBIE AND SO WE INCURRED AN EXTRA $7 MILLION. IF WE ARE PAYING OURSELVES BACK FOR THIS, WE WILL THEN -- WOULD WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY FUND BALANCE FOR HURRICANES OF $14 MILLION? >>DENNIS ROGERO: THIS WOULD NET TO, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, SEVEN. WILL GET BACK TO THE BASELINE SEVEN THAT WE HISTORICALLY ESTABLISHED. >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST WANTED TO -- >>DENNIS ROGERO: AN EXCELLENT QUESTION THAT I WISH TO CLARIFY THAT. >>LYNN HURTAK: MY ONLY QUESTION ABOUT THAT IS -- AN EX-CITIZEN SHALL QUESTION. $7 MILLION ENOUGH, BUT CAN WE MOVE IT TO $10 MILLION? >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT IS A QUESTION. THE ONLY THING I CAN GUARANTEE BASED ON THE SEVERITY OF THE STORM, IT WILL BE INADEQUATE. IT WILL BE NOTHING AND DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OF THE STORM, THE $7 MILLION AND THEN $20 MILLION OVER THE 20% POLICY. IS THAT ADEQUATE? IT IS ANYBODY'S GUESS. COULD WE CRANK IT UP TO 10, WE ABSOLUTELY COULD. IT IS SUCH A BIG X FACTOR WE DON'T KNOW. >>LYNN HURTAK: MY QUESTION IS HOW DO WE ARRIVE AT 7 TO BEGIN WITH. IS THAT A NUMBER THAT HANDLES THE OVERTIME FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND THE COST OF PULLING -- I KNOW WE HAVE TO PULL DIFFERENT TRAILERS AND DO THIS AND THAT. IS THAT HOW WE ENDED UP WITH THE $7 MILLION? OR JUST ARBITRARY. >>DENNIS ROGERO: AT ONE TIME IT WAS BASED ON EXACTLY HOW YOU DESCRIBED. WE DID HAVE A LONG TIME FRAME OF NO STORMS. SO IT JUST KIND OF TOOK ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN. FROM AN OUTSIDE -- FROM AN OUTSIDER PERSPECTIVE WHETHER IT IS CREDIT RATING AGENCY, INVESTORS. THEY DO LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING SET ASIDE FOR EMERGENCIES AND TYPICALLY WHEN WE SAY EMERGENCIES HERE, WE MEAN HURRICANES. AND -- DOES IT CARRY AS MUCH WEIGHT AS THAT 23%? NO, IT DOESN'T, BUT NICE TO SEE THAT WE HAVE -- THAT THE CITY HAS THE FORETHOUGHT TO SET ASIDE SOMETHING FOR STORMS, WHETHER THAT THE RIGHT FIGURE. ABOUT ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS PROBABLY THE WRONG FIGURE BUT I COULD TELL YOU WHAT THE RIGHT ONE IS. NEBULOUS. >>LYNN HURTAK: KNOWING THAT AT ONE TIME WAS BALANCED ON THE ACTUAL COSTS OF THOSE PERSONNEL AND THE POLLING OF THE SPECIFIC THINGS WE NEED. IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU KNOW, OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS WE CAN FIND WHAT THAT NUMBER MIGHT BE? I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD EXERCISE OVERALL, BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, WE HAVEN'T HAD THESE STORMS, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO AT LEAST MAKE SURE WE CAN AT LEAST PAY OUR PEOPLE WHO WILL BE GOING THROUGH THESE HORRIFIC THINGS AND DOING THE COURAGEOUS WORK OF BEING ON THE FRONT LINES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN AT LEAST PAY THEM AND MAKE SURE THEY CAN EAT, SHOWER AND DO ALL THOSE THINGS AND HAVE POWER WHILE THEY DO IT. >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, THANK YOU. WE WILL RUN THAT TO GROUND. THAT WILL BE AN INTERESTING EXERCISE. JUST TO CLARIFY, OF COURSE, WHEN WE RUN OUT OF THE 7, WE WILL TAKE IT FROM THE OTHER FUND BALANCE. >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE. >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT WILL BE INFORMATIVE. WE WILL RUN IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ON THE $500,000 ANNUALLY FOR STORMWATER SUPPORT AND DITCH GRADING. >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS A ONE-TIME -- >>DENNIS ROGERO: SAYS ANNUALLY. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE TIME FOR THIS YEAR. >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE TIME FOR THIS YEAR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SAID ANNUALLY. >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, I WOULD LOVE -- I THINK WE NEED MORE THAN $500,000 ANNUALLY. WE WERE TALKING OF $500,000 TO BE USED -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO CATCH UP. >>LYNN HURTAK: TO CATCH UP. MY INTENT IS NOT ANNUALLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS ANNUALLY. >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL THEN, SO BE IT. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO NEED MORE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO IT IS WRITTEN AT THIS TIME AND CAN ALWAYS BE CHANGED IN THE FUTURE DOING LESS OR MORE. AND RIGHT SIZING. HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN BUDGETS IN THE FEDERAL SECTOR AND DOING THINGS LIKE THIS. A LOT OF TIME THIS TYPE OF FUNDING -- WITH THAT TYPE OF A LEVEL, COUNCIL FOLKS KNOW OVERTIME IS USUALLY A REALLY GOOD WAY OF ACCOMPLISHING ESPECIALLY FOR THE SEASONAL TYPE OF ACTIVITY EITHER THROUGH CONTRACTS KNOWING THAT THAT MAY BE THE BEST USE OF THIS IS PROVIDING OVERTIME OR HIRING TEMPORARY HELP JUST SO -- YOU HAVE SAID FIGURE OUT A WAY TO USE THAT MONEY. I THINK THAT IS HOW -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HE IS RIGHT WE HAVE THE EXPERTISE AND YOU CAN DO IT QUICKER THAN WHEN WE LOAN IT OUT TO SOMEONE ELSE, FARM IT OUT. A HIGHER RETURN AND PAYING MORE BECAUSE IT WILL BE DONE MORE EFFICIENT AND MORE QUICKLY, BECAUSE PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF THOSE PEOPLE IS THE PROBLEM. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND. I WILL VOLUNTEER BOTH OF YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONLY IF I CAN WEAR A SPEEDO. [LAUGHTER] . >>DENNIS ROGERO: WOW, LOOK AT THE TIME. [GAVEL SOUNDING] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT GETS A GAVEL. >>DENNIS ROGERO: MR. CHAIR IF I CAN POSTSCRIPT -- NOT THE LAST COMMENT, BUT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS BEFORE. SHOULD COUNCIL DECIDE THEY WANT THAT $500,000 TO BE RECURRING OR RECURRING NOW AND YOU DON'T WANT IT TO BE RECURRING WE CAN ADDRESS THAT AS PART OF FISCAL '26 BUDGET. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I PREFER IT TO BE ON A YEARLY BASIS. BY UNDERSTAND WHY, BUT WE MAY NOT HAVE THOSE YEARS AT $500,000 THAT CAN BE USED FOR SOMEWHERE ELSE. I WILL SAY DO IT YEARLY OR AS NEEDED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU, MR. ROGERO FOR A WONDERFUL REPORT. YOU AND MR. PERRY IS HERE. ALWAYS SUPER PROFESSIONAL. >>DENNIS ROGERO: MY OUTTRO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEW BUSINESS. MR. MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL TAKE THREE. I WILL TAKE MR. VIERA'S SPOT TODAY. MAKE A COMMENDATION TO THE TAMPA WATER DEPARTMENT THURSDAY APRIL 3, 2025. IT IS -- IT IS OF THE EWE TIGHTS AND SECTION OF THE AMERICAN WATER WORKS ASSOCIATION PROCLAIMING APRIL AS CONSERVATION WATER MONTH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: COUNTY COMMISSION? NO, COUNCIL MEMBER. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WINNERS AND FINALISTS OF AMERICAN LE LEGION ORATORICAL CONTEST. THE DELIVERY OF THE YOUNG ARE THE VALUES THAT ARE SET FORTH IN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE AWARENESS AND THE RESPONSIBILITY INCUMBENT TO EACH CITIZEN, THE EXERCISE OF PROTECTED RIGHTS. I WOULD LIKE THIS PRESENTATION TO BE MADE PRIOR TO THE START OF THE EVENING APRIL 10, 2025. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? YES, SIR, ANYTHING ELSE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LIKE FOR A COMMENDATION TO THE TAMPA WATER DEPARTMENT APRIL 17 FOR PROCLAIMING MAY 4-10, 2025 AS DRINKING WATER WEEK. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. COUPLE OF QUICK ONES IF I MAY. WRITTEN REPORT ON APRIL 3, MOTION FOR A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT ON THE CROSSWALK IMPROVEMENTS. ANY CROSSWALK IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE A FLASHING LIGHT AND REPAINTED CROSSWALK STRIPING ACROSS TAMPA PALMS BOULEVARD AT BRUCE B. DOWNS NEAR PUBLIX TO ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND SIMILAR IMPROVEMENTS ON TAMPA PALMS BOULEVARD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL ASKED TO GIVE A COMMENDATION TO PAINT YOUR HEART OUT ON MAY 18. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT, A LOT OF YOU ALL KNOW KAREN CLAY, A WONDERFUL LADY. CONGRESSWOMAN KATHY CASTOR INVITED HER TO BE TO THE STATE OF UNION OR ADDRESS TO CONGRESS, WHATEVER THE HELL THAT WAS, BY THE WAY. SHE WENT AND SHE IS A REALLY GOOD LADY AND STARTING UP A 501-C-3 TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. I WANTED TO INVITE KAREN FOR A FIVE-MINUTE PRESENTATION JUST FOR HER TO TELL FOLKS WHAT HER 501-C-3 IS ALL ABOUT ON MAY 15. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I CAN SECOND THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL. FOUR AND FIVE, IRMENTIONED HOUSING FUNDS AND $3.5 MILLION THAT WE WILL BE -- THAT WE WILL BE SEEN GOING OUT TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THE END OF THIS MONTH, I WANTEDED A REPORT -- JUST WRITTEN -- ON APRIL 3, WHICH IS -- WHICH IS NUMBER ONE, HOW MUCH OF THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE LEFT. AND NUMBER TWO, AN INQUIRY ON WHERE WE CAN POTENTIALLY GET ADDITIONAL FUNDS. WE TALKED ABOUT THE FUND WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY. AND NUMBER TWO, WE CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT EXISTING HOUSING FUNDS AND SO FORTH THAT CAN BE GEARED TOWARD THAT. JUST AN INQUIRY FROM STAFF OF WHERE POTENTIALLY -- SO WE CAN BE FULLY INFORMED. AND APRIL 3 IS A GOOD DATE BECAUSE A WEEK AFTER THE PROGRAM BEGINS. I BELIEVE IT IS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AN A SECOND. COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IT, COUNCIL. I WAS TALKING TO MR. SHELBY OFF-LINE OF DOING ONE ON AAFT AD SEE WHAT MOVEMENT COUNCIL HAS ON ANY OF THOSE FUNDS. LET ME GET THE LANGUAGE DOWN AND I WILL MAKE IT LATER. THANK YOU FOR THAT. A GOOD IDEA. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO RATIFY AND CONFIRM THE LETTER WRITTEN ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF TAMPA IN THE PASSING OF RANDOLPH THEATRE MYERS JR. COMMISSIONER MYERS, GWEN MYERS' HUSBAND. AND I WROTE IT ON OUR BEHALF AND IT WAS NOT CLEAR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I GAVE YOU A COPY OF THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. YES, MA'AM, ANYTHING ELSE? >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HURTAK FOR SOMETHING FIRST BEFORE I -- WE -- OUR MAY WORKSHOP, WE ARE TO DISCUSS -- WE CAN ONLY DO FIVE THINGS, RIGHT. ONE OF THEM THAT IS ON THERE IS CITY COUNCIL SALARIES, AND THAT WAS YOURS. IF THAT CAN MOVE IT TO SEPTEMBER, WILL PROVIDE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS DIGITAL SIGN MATTER. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL LET YOU MOVE IT. I THINK I DID IT JUST BECAUSE I WAS THERE. BUT I KNOW YOU KIND OF SPEARHEADED THAT SO GO FOR IT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I APPRECIATE IT. I MOVE THAT WE CHANGE THE -- THE COUNCIL SALARIES DISCUSSION TO THE SEPTEMBER 2025 MEETING AN LEAVING ROOM FOR DIGITAL SIGNS WORKSHOP IN MAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION IF I CAN. >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. AN IMPORTANT QUESTION. >>MARTIN SHELBY: A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION. >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT IS THE LEGAL QUESTION. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE LEGAL QUESTION IS DID YOU ACTUALLY ADD THE WORKSHOP FOR THE DIGITAL SIGNS OR IS IT ALREADY ON THERE? >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MADE IT IN THE MOTION. >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE IN THE MOTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE SALARY ONE AND REPLACE IT -- >>GWEN HENDERSON: BECAUSE WE ALREADY ARE FIVE. YOU ARE THROWING ME OFF, MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE THROWING ME OFF, COUNCIL. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I FOLLOWED THE RULES BECAUSE FIVE. I ASKED HURTAK IN ADVANCE IF WE CAN MOVE ONE AND THEN MADE THE MOTION. >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST SO YOU ARE CLEAR. THERE IS NO -- I WILL DOUBLE CHECK, NO WORD OF THE NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS, BUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE FOUR HOURS. >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE IS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: SAYS FIVE ITEMS. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I NEED TO PROCEED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY APOLOGIES. >>GWEN HENDERSON: BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT AND THIS IS -- THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR ME. NOW YOU KIND OF JUST THREW KNEE OFF A LITTLE BIT. OKAY, THAT PART. AND THEN I NEED TO -- FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY WONDERFUL UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA SENIOR INTERN, ALEX. SHE TRANSCRIBED EVERYTHING THAT I SAID AT THE MEETING JANUARY 28, BECAUSE IT KEPT COMING BACK TO ME THROUGH MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WANTS. I HIGHLIGHTED SOME THINGS I WAS VERY CLEAR ABOUT REGARDING THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND DIGITAL SIGNS. OKAY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, FIRST OF ALL, I -- I WANT TO ADDRESS THE DIGITAL BOARD EDITORIAL THAT WAS WRITTEN WITHOUT A CONVERSATION WITH ME. I AM NOT AFRAID TO DO THAT. AND IT IS GIRL POWER MONTH. SO WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT I WASN'T GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY. I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MR. HILL YESTERDAY. HE WROTE AN EDITORIAL. AND TWO THINGS I WANT TO CLEAR UP. DIGITAL POLLUTION IS DEFINITELY AN UNFAIR STATEMENT. DIGITAL MEDIA IS PROGRESSIVE. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITY. I THOUGHT I WAS VERY CLEAR IN MY CONVERSATIONS THAT WE SHOULD TAKE A THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO IT. I AM NOT RUSHING TO BLOW US UP LIKE LAS VEGAS. AND I ALSO SAID THAT. WHAT IS INTERESTING TO ME, EVEN THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED BY STAFF. AND THEY ARE -- THEIR NEW ATTEMPT IS THEY LOOKED AT DENVER WHO HAD UNLIMITED SIGNS. THEY LOOKED AT ATLANTA WHO HAS 25 SIGNS. BUT BALTIMORE IS REALLY FALLING INTO THE CATEGORY OF WHERE I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LAND. BUT THAT WAS NOT REFERENCED IN THIS NEW REPORT. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU KNOW, THAT YOU TAKE INTO INTO CONSIDERATION AND LOOK BACK AT EVEN THE NOTES BECAUSE I WAS VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. DIGITAL POLLUTION, I WANTED TO ADDRESS, AND ALSO EVEN THE SAFETY ASPECT OF IT THAT MR. HILL WROTE ABOUT IN HIS EDITORIAL, WHICH IS AN OPINION, BY THE WAY. I ONLY RECEIVED ONE LETTER FROM A CONSTITUENT THAT FOLLOWED HIS ACTUAL EDITORIAL. NOT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING. ALSO AS A COUNCIL, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO COME UP WHERE NEW IDEAS. YOU KNOW ALAN CLENDENIN WANTS THE STREETCAR. I LIKE THAT. WE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE PROGRESSIVE. WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO TELL US WHAT TO DO. WE CAN DO OUR JOBS. WE WERE ELECTED. WE CAN DO OUR JOBS ON OUR OWN AND PRESENT THINGS. THE PUBLIC DOESN'T LIKE IT, THEY CAN SAY THAT. I KNOW THIS IS A LITTLE LECTURY BUT I NEED TO SET IT UP FOR WHAT I'M ASKING FOR. THE FACT THAT IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE. I PRESENTED THIS IN MY COMMENCE THAT DIGITAL SIGNS ARE NOT A DISTRACTION. THE STUDIES SHOW THAT THE DISTRACTIONS ARE PEOPLE USING THEIR CELL PHONES. DIGITAL SIGN IS NOT A DISTRACTION. AND IT IS NOT POLLUTION. IT IS CONTENT, THOUGHTFUL CONTENT, AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT IF WE WRITE REALLY GOOD CODE. WHAT THAT BEING SAID, LET'S, YOU KNOW, GET WITH SOMETHING I CAN GO WITH -- OR SOMETHING I CAN'T DEAL WITH. THE -- CHARLIE, YOU ARE TALKING. AND IT IS DISTRACTING ME. I KNOW, BUT IT IS DISTRACTING ME. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APOLOGIZE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO PROBLEM, SWEETIE. I MEAN MR. MIRANDA. BECAUSE MY MENTOR WILL GET ON MY CASE OF CALLING YOU SWEETIE. SO THE TWO-YEAR TIMELINE IS UNACCEPTABLE. CLEARLY UNACCEPTABLE. SO BECAUSE I ASKED HURTAK TO MOVE THE ACTUAL -- THE ACTUAL WORKSHOP FOR CITY COUNCIL SALARIES TO.SEPTEMBER, THIS DOES PROVIDE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING WHERE I CAN MAKE A MOTION NEXT WEEK TO OFFER US AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP TO POSSIBLY WRITE -- TO -- TO WRITE GOOD DESIGN IN A 45-DAY WINDOW THAT CAN BE PRESENTED TO US IN MAY THAT WE CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND THAT IS VERY THOUGHTFUL WHERE THEY CAN WORK WITH THE MEDIA COMPANIES AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO WAIT TWO YEARS AND GET TO A FIRST READING IN MAY OF 2026. THAT IS JUST UNACCEPTABLE. WE CAN DO THINGS A LOT FASTER THAN THAT. AND SO, OKAY, HOLD ON. I HAVE TOO MANY NOTES HERE. THE OTHER THING IS -- AND I MADE THIS VERY CLEAR IN THE JANUARY -- THE JANUARY 28 MEETING THAT -- THAT THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THE ENTIRE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IS WHAT WE COULD CONSIDER ESPECIALLY IF WE ARE THOUGHTFUL IN OUR APPROACH OF NOT THE 25 THAT YOU PRESENTED WITH ATLANTA OVER 1,000 ACRES. WE ARE HALF OF THAT. AND SO 10 TO 12 SIGNS WILL BE NICE AT 500 ACRES. SO YOU -- YOU ARE ALL CREATING -- INSTEAD OF THE TWO DISTRICTS TALKING ABOUT A GATEWAY, THAT STILL DOES NOT REALLY -- THAT IS NOT INCLUSIVE OF THE ENTIRE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND THEREFORE NOT -- YOU ARE LIMITING OPPORTUNITIES AND I DON'T WANT TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ANYONE. THAT SUN WILDFIRE THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO SAY. THE PILOT PROGRAM, THAT IS THE ONE THAT I -- I -- IF WE CAN -- IF -- IF THERE IS A PILOT. NOT -- WE HAVE TO WAIT TWO YEARS. PILOT OPPORTUNITY. AND THAT IS A CITY ASSET. A CITY ASSET THAT WE CAN SAY, LET'S TRY IT ON THE CITY ASSET AND MOVE JUST THE FACT. AND PILOT MAKING. AND WE CAN DO THAT. I AM GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MR. HOLLAND. I THINK HE WILL DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE HE IS ONE OF THE INITIAL SUPPORTERS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. AND I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR MOVING THE NEEDLE TWO INCHES. I CAN SAY THAT. THERE ARE CLEAR COLLABORATION WITH THE NEWSPAPERS AND STAFF. THE OTHER THING JUST TO WRAP THINGS UP. THE RATION MALL IN ABOUT THE BOUNDARY IS JUST NOT A GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH OUR CITY, AS WELL AS THE BUSINESSES IN OUR CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. IT'S NOT -- YOU ARE TAKING OUT OPPORTUNITY. AND I DON'T LIKE THAT BY -- BY CREATING A GATEWAY. SO THAT IS DEFINITELY NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION. EVEN THE SIZE -- THE SIZE WHERE WE DID A DESIGN EXCEPTION OF 3800 SQUARE FEET. WE ARE ACTING FOR MAYBE A THIRD OF THAT MAYBE. CHAPTER 14-10 OF THE FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE THAT GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY AND SIGNING. AND IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO DO THIS WITH A THOUGHTFUL APPROACH WITH THE ACTUAL -- YOU KNOW, SIZE OF BUILDINGS. IT JUST DEPENDS. BUT THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP, WORKING WITH THE MEDIA COMPANY AND OUR STAFF, IF THEY WANT TO, BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY COULD WRITE CODE RIGHT NOW. WE ARE WRITING CODE RIGHT NOW. WE ARE IN THE LAST CYCLE OF WRITING CODE. IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE WITH A DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP, BY ALL MEANS, LET'S TO THAT AND WE CAN MOVE THAT ALONG. I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION AND I AM LETTING YOU KNOW THIS ADVANCE NEXT WEEK AT THE CRA MEETING, I AM MAKING THE MOTION TO MOVE THIS ALONG IN 45 DAYS WHERE IS THEY CAN COME BACK WITH SOME CRITERIA THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT AT OUR WORKSHOP. I THINK THAT IS MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR RIGHT NOW, RIGHT. YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU -- >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I SPEAK TO THAT? BECAUSE I GOT MORE THAN ONE E-MAIL. MAYBE THEY WERE JUST TO ME. I GOT QUITE A FEW E-MAILS. AND I WAS TRYING TO HAVE KELLY FOUND MY RESPONSE SO I COULD READ IT OUT LOUD. SHE WILL COME BACK WITH IT. BASICALLY I WILL JUST -- I WILL TALK ABOUT -- I FINALLY HAD TO GO READ THE EDITORIAL AND I KEPT GETTING IT. AND I SAID I GOT TO DEAL WITH THIS. BUT MY -- MY BIG THING IS, WE ARE NOT HAVING A CONVERSATION OF WHETHER WE CAN HAVE SIGNS, BECAUSE THAT DECISION WAS MADE FOR US YEARS AGO WHEN WATER STREET WAS APPROVED THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY DID IN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY WERE ALREADY ALLOWED. THIS IS NOT AN OPTION FOR US AND E-MAILED. WHETHER WE CAN HAVE SIGNS IS NOT AN OPTION BECAUSE THE CITY MADE THE DECISION FOR US. THE CITY MADE THE DECISION WITHOUT FOLLOWING THE ORDINANCE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. THAT IS THE PART THAT FRUSTRATES ME. NOW WE ARE BEING PUT -- YOU KNOW, BEING USED AS A SCAPEGOAT FOR THIS, BUT IT ISN'T US. HONESTLY -- I MEAN, I WOULDN'T HAVE SUPPORTED THIS. I WOULDN'T HAVE SUPPORTED SIGNS. I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU IF THIS ALREADY HAVEN'T BEEN COMPLETED. AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY OPTIONS BECAUSE THE OTHER SIGN COMPANIES WITH SUE US BECAUSE WE ALREADY ALLOWED IT. THAT IS WHAT IT IS TO ME. I WILL JUST READ IT. UNFORTUNATELY THE CITY ALLOWED THE WATER STREET AREA TO HAVE A DIGITAL SIGN WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT YEARS AGO EVEN THOUGH IT CONTRADICTED OUR SIGN ORDINANCES. ONE MASSIVE SIGN OF AMALIE AND ANOTHER BEING CONSTRUCTED NOW FACING WATER STREET. BECAUSE OF THAT, OUR HANDS ARE TIED. WE CAN'T TAKE THE RIGHT AWAY FROM THE WATER STREET. NO ALLOWING DIGITAL SIGNS WILL OPEN US TO LAWSUITS. ONLY OPTION IS TO DEVELOP GUIDELINES AROUND PLACEMENT AND USE THAT HAS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE SHEER SIGNS OF THE SIGNS UP AT AMALIE. WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE REALITIES THAT WE HAVE BEEN HANDED. THAT'S YOU WILL I WILL SAY ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE I AGREE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: GLAD YOU READ THAT AND GLAD YOU EXPRESSED YOUR INITIAL THOUGHT ON IT. I LIKE THE IDEA OF US MOVING IN A DIRECTION THAT SHOWS GROWTH. AND ALSO. AND SUPPORTED BY THE KEY TAKE HOLDERS FROM THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND STRAZ AND THE MUSEUM AND THE AQUARIUM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CONVENTION CENTER. >>GWEN HENDERSON: HE KNEW ON HIS JOB. HE LEFT IT VERY RESERVED, MY CONVERSATION WITH HIM YEAH HE DOES AND GENERATES A DIFFERENT TYPE OF REVENUE. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT US MAKING GOOD DECISIONS TOGETHER AN TAKES FOUR VOTES TO GET EVERYTHING DONE AND THAT IS FAIR TOO. I HAVE BEEN ON THE LOSING SIDE OF THINGS BEFORE. AND IF THAT IS THE CASE FOUGHT WITH INTEGRITY OF SOMETHING THAT I FEEL IS IMPORTANT. NO ONE PUT -- I RAN FOR THIS JOB BECAUSE I WANTED TO. EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THAT. I AM NOT AFRAID TO MAKE MY OWN DECISIONS. NOBODY TALKED ME INTO THIS. I AM SAYING THAT TO STAFF AND SAYING THAT TO THE TAMPA BAY TIMES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL TELL YOU COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE WHEN YOU ARE IN PUBLIC OFFICE, YOU HAVE TO FIGHT FOR WHAT YOU ORGANICALLY BELIEVE IN BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE HITS FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES AND COULD TO TAKE HITS FROM THINGS YOU BELIEVE IN. WHENEVER WE SEE ELECTED OFFICIALS -- THINGS GET SO DAMN POLITICAL. ANYBODY WHO SERVES ON CITY COUNCIL, BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY WHO TRY TO BE SOMETHING THEY ARE NOT AND GET HIT FOR IT. MAN, THAT MUST REALLY SUCK BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT BEING WHO YOU ARE. YOU ARE GETTING PUNCHED FOR IT. I READ THE EDITORIAL. ONE OF MY MORNING ROUTINES TO READ THE TAMPA BAY TIMES AND THE WASHINGTON POST EVERY MORNING. I JUST -- WHATEVER -- WHENEVER IT CAME OUT, I THINK IT WAS MONDAY AND TUESDAY, IF I RECALL. AND MY -- MY BIG THING IS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THOSE STAKEHOLDERS. MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, SHOW STAKEHOLDERS HERE THAT ARE SUPPORTING WHATEVER WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THIS ULTIMATELY. THAT INCLUDES, ALSO, RESIDENTS TO LIVE DOWNTOWN BECAUSE A LOT OF FOLKS -- YES, MA'AM LORE LIVE THERE. AND -- THE BUSINESSES. AND THE NONPROFITS. CIVIC INSTITUTIONS, AS WELL AS RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ON BOARD, BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO DO THAT. AND I KNOW. I AM SURE YOU AGREE WITH THAT, MA'AM. SO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO, I AM SURE, REACH SOMETHING WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING. WHAT I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING THAT IS MEASUREDED THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. AND WE MOVE FORWARD IN A DELIBERATE AND MEASURED WAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, ANY NEW BUSINESS? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T HAVE NEW BUSINESS BUT I WILL TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT. ONE IS I WILL PREFACE WITH -- GENERALLY -- ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL. I RECOGNIZE THAT I AM IN A CITY WIDE SEAT. BUT I SERVE WITH FOUR PEOPLE THAT REPRESENT SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS. AND I ALMOST -- I REALLY -- WHEN -- WHEN THESE ISSUES COME UP THAT ARE VERY MUCH A PART OF ONE PERSON'S DISTRICT, I GIVE A LOT OF DEFERENCE TO THAT PERSON THAT REPRESENTS THAT DISTRICT. WHEN YOU WAIT THOSE THINGS OUT. WHETHER A SOUTH TAMPA ISSUE OR EAST TAMPA, DOWNTOWN, YBOR CITY ISSUE OR WEST TAMPA ISSUE OR GOD KNOWS, WE HAVE SOME ISSUES UP IN NEW THIS. AND -- AND I THINK -- I THINK THIS COUNCIL HAS GIVEN, YOU KNOW -- COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA THAT REPRESENT NEW TAMPA, A LOT OF DEFERENCE, BECAUSE HE COMES AND FIGHTS FOR THOSE ISSUES AND WE TO DO THAT AND THAT IS THE RESPECTFUL THING TO DO. WITH THAT BEING SAID, TO SAY I WAS DISAPPOINTED IN THAT TAMPA BAY TIMES EDITORIAL WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT. I WAS GOD SMACKED BY IT. IT WAS REALLY -- IT WAS REALLY OPINION I -- IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING. IT IS NOT. IT IS A SHAME THAT THAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES." ONCE A GREAT NEWSPAPER. ONCE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERALDED. AND NOT ALWAYS WISE OF A POLITICIAN TOP TAKE A POT SHOT AT SOMEBODY WHO OWN ASPEN, BUT -- I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THAT EDITORIAL AND I WISH MORE RESEARCH AND DISCUSSION INVOLVED BEFORE THAT EDITORIAL WAS WRITTEN, BECAUSE THIS ISSUE ON SIGNAGE IS NOT FLUSHED OUT. THIS IS STILL JUST A THEORY OR DISCUSSION. WE DON'T KNOW WHICH DIRECTION IT IS GOING. AND THING THAT THEY TOOK SOME LEAPS AND I THINK THEY TOOK SOME LEAPS FROM PEOPLE THAT WERE SPOON-FEEDING THEM. THIS -- THIS -- THIS ISSUE, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT IT. I AM KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT IS REALLY NOT NECESSARILY MY ISSUE, BUT I ALSO TRY TO INJECT -- I TAKE EVERY ISSUE THAT COMES BEFORE US AS THEY COME, ONE AT A TIME. I WEIGH IT. I WEIGH IT ALL OUT BASED ON THE EVIDENCE AND ALL THE INFORMATION WE HAVE GOT. ONLY GOTTEN THIS AMOUNTS OF INFORMATION. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WILL LOOK LIKE. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO VOTE ON THE FINAL PRODUCT. I WANT TO HEAR ALL THE INFORMATION. WHEN I HEAR THINGS -- WE ARE AGAINST DIGITAL SIGNS. GUESS WHAT, FOLKS, WE GOT DIGITAL SIGNS EVERYWHERE. THE CITY OF TAMPA DEPLOY DIGITAL SIGNS. THEY MAY JUST BE ORANGE AND WHITE, BUT DIGITAL TIMES TELLING YOU AN EVENT AT AN ARENA OR A STREET IS CLOSED OR WATER MAIN BROKE. AND DIGITAL SIGNS ON THE EXPRESSWAY. DIGITAL SIGNS ALL OVER THE CITY OF TAMPA. ALL OVER THE STATE OF FLORIDA. WE HAVE GOT, YOU KNOW, OUR SPORTING ARENAS, THE TAMPA BAY RAYS. MY GOODNESS, YOU CAN BE THREE MILES AWAY AND SEE THOSE SIGNS. THEY ARE ON FULL DISPLAY. BEAUTIFUL, ACTIVATED DISPLAYS THAT ARE EVERYWHERE. WE HAVE GIGANTIC SIGNS. BIG BANNERS. TALK OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. IF YOU HAVE A MOTION THAT WILL WRAP THIS BUILDING ONE BIG LED SIGN. IT WOULD 100% IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDING. MONSTROSITY OF A BOMB SHELTER HE WITH NO WINDOWS WE HAVE SITTING NEXT TO US. EVERY SPECIAL EVENT. >>LYNN HURTAK: THINK OF THIS THE INCOME -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THINK OF THE INCOME WE CAN MAKE ON THAT AND NOT BASED ON ANYBODY REALLY. WE PUT A GIANT BANNER IN THE FRONT OF THIS BUILDING ROUTINELY ON SPECIAL EVENTS. IT CAN BE A DIGITAL SIGN. IT IS NOT POINTED AT ANYBODY. AND THAT WILL BE -- IT WILL ENHANCE BEAUTY OF THIS THING. MAYBE SOMETIMES IT CAN BE FLOWERS AND BIRDS. >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE GO FIRST. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A LOT OF THINGS TO DO AND A LOT OF INTERESTING APPLICATIONS. YOU TALK OF THE STRAZ. LOOK AT THAT, BIG CONCRETE FACADES. RIGHT NOW THERE ARE NEON LIGHTS AND STUFF ON IT. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND L.E.D. SIGN. START PUTTING INTELLECTUAL HONESTY IN THIS, NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN L.E.D.s OR THE NEON -- THE NEON LIGHTS THAT ARE ON THE STRAZ. AND ANOTHER SIGN. BUT I THINK THE DEVIL IS ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS. SO AS YOU WORK ON THESE PROGRAMS, I THINK WE NEED TO THROW OUT THE IDEA THAT, OH, DIGITAL SIGNS ARE BAD. BECAUSE YOU ARE SOUNDING LIKE THE PERSON THAT HOYS I AM NEVER GOING TO DRIVE A CAR. WHY WOULD I DO THAT WHEN I HAVE A HORSE AND BUGGY. TIMES CHANGE. TECHNOLOGY CHANGES. I AM NOT GOING TO USE A MICROWAVE. THEY ARE RATE 199-- RADIATING W ELECT ELECTRICITY. THINGS EVOLVE. HOW PEOPLE DIGEST INFORMATION CHANGES. I THINK WE NEED TO EXPLORE THIS AND LOOK HOW IT LOOKS AND SEE HOW -- WHERE WE END UP. AND -- AND WHEN IT IS ALL FLESHED OUT, WE WILL ALL MAKE A VOTE BASED ON THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT THAT IS PRESENTED TO US, BASED ON THE INPUT WE GET FROM THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THESE DISTRICTS. WE WILL MOVE ON AND PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT THIS AND SAY WHAT IS A SILLY ARGUMENT WE HAD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T HAVE ANY MOTIONS. I WILL JUST SAY THAT, YES, I THINK THE -- THE MOST DIFFICULT QUESTION HAS ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED WHETHER TO DO IT OR NOT. BUT NOW WE ARE JUST FOCUSING ON THE DESIGN. ON THE PARTICULAR DESIGN ASPECTS. AND I THINK THAT -- HONESTLY, THAT -- THAT IS A BETTER PLACE TO BE THAN HAVING THE ARGUMENT WHETHER WE ARE DOING IT AT ALL. SO I REALLY GOOSE FORWARD AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND STAFF. >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO. >>GWEN HENDERSON: HE LOVES DOING THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TO THE END OF STAFF REPORTS ON THE END OF THE MARCH 27 REGULAR MEETING DISCUSSION OF CITY COUNCIL DECORUM AND EFFICIENCY. >>. >> SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO. SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. AYE. WE ARE ADJOURNED.