Based on the context provided in the transcript and the list of officials, here is the formatted transcript with speaker names. **Note on Names:** This transcript is dated **September 16, 2014**. While your provided list contains the current administration (e.g., Mayor Montgomery), the transcript explicitly identifies the officials serving at that time, including **Mayor Robinson**, **City Administrator Dave Moroni**, and **City Clerk Linda Rappe**. I have used the roles from your list (e.g., Police Chief, City Engineer) where they align with the 2014 personnel. *** [7:03] **Mayor Robinson:** In here, J. I'll explain to you later. Good evening. I'll now call the city of Canon Falls City Council meeting for Tuesday, September the 16th to order. Roll call. Council member Duncan? **Jay Duncan:** Here. **Mayor Robinson:** Hol? **Council Member Hol:** Here. **Mayor Robinson:** Johnson? **Council Member Johnson:** Here. **Mayor Robinson:** Madson? **Bill Madson:** Here. [7:19] **Mayor Robinson:** McCusker? **Merl McCusker:** Here. **Mayor Robinson:** Shlam? **Leroy Shlam:** Here. **Mayor Robinson:** And Mayor Robinson here. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [7:41] **Mayor Robinson:** Good evening everyone. Welcome to the meeting. At this time, the chair will take a motion to approve the agenda as submitted. **Merl McCusker:** So moved. **Bill Madson:** I'll second. **Mayor Robinson:** Have a motion by Merl, second by Bill. All those in favor? I oppose. Carries. Move us on to item five, public input. Citizens may speak to issues not on the agenda. Before speaking, please give your name and address for the minutes and please limit your comments to three minutes. Uh there's no one out there, so we're going to move on. Moves on to item six, public hearings. Uh, tonight we'll be holding a public hearing for resolution 2091 vacating part of Stalton Street. Mr. Moroni. [8:24] **Dave Moroni (City Administrator):** I don't believe it's necessary to dim the lights here. I think the council is fully aware of the location of the request that we've had for a vacation of Stoutton Street. Initially, based on the application that we received, the public hearing was scheduled for our meeting in in August. And just prior to the hearing, we learned that there was a possibility that the street had already been vacated. So, the council recessed the hearing to this evening. And as I've reported to the council, uh, in follow-up research, we were able to discover that by action of a council in 1921, uh, this part of Stoutton Street actually was vacated and apparently, most likely, was never recorded. So the actual request that we got for Stoutton [9:11] **Dave Moroni:** between first and second uh had previously been vacated again by a prior city council in 1921. So in conversations with the city attorney, we agreed that it probably makes most sense now to continue this process actually at the council's hopefully affirmative vote. Uh we'll uh reiterate the vacation and then we'll actually record it with Good Hugh County so that the matter uh is permanently in the public record. So, the street has been vacated, but again, we've recessed the hearing tonight uh allowing any comments that there may be from the public. I haven't had any uh calls uh to me based on the public hearing notices, so I assume there's no objection or or comments about the uh the request itself, but it is a vacated roadway and we're asking the council tonight to conduct the public hearing, close the public hearing, and then [9:58] **Dave Moroni:** consider approval of the resolution, which again will reiterate the vacation of this street. **Mayor Robinson:** Okay. Okay. At this time, uh, we will open the public hearing, uh, for the vacation of a part of Stalton Street. Seeing as there is no one here that uh, wishes to address the council at this time, we will close the public hearing. And is there any discussion? [10:24] **Mayor Robinson:** If not, the chair will take a motion to approve resolution 2091 that vacates again Stalton Street between 1 and 2nd Street. And the resolution 2091 will will be recorded with Good Hugh County. **Merl McCusker:** So moved. **Bill Madson:** I'll second. [10:45] **Leroy Shlam:** I will abstain, Robbie. **Mayor Robinson:** And Leroy abstains. All those in favor? I I opposed. [11:02] **Mayor Robinson:** Carries. That moves us on to item seven this evening, the consent agenda. Items on this area of the agenda may be adopted or they may be removed and placed on the business area of the agenda for discussion purposes before approving. Item A is the just and correct claims for accounting period ending September the 12th, 2014. [11:21] **Mayor Robinson:** Item B are the meeting minutes for the September 2nd, 2014 city council meeting. Item C is administrative fee for extra duty details in the police department. Item D is event street closure. Item E, introduction and first reading of ordinance 339, changing street names in the city of Canon Falls. [11:40] **Mayor Robinson:** Item F, change in the ambulance bad debt recovery service. Item G, appoint Michael Guthrie as interim ambulance director. Item H, resolution 2098, establishing procedures relating to compliance with reimbursement bond regulations under the Internal Revenue Code. Uh, there are any items anybody wishes to bring down. Seeing as there are none, chair, I'll take a motion to approve the consent agenda as submitted. **Merl McCusker:** So moved. [12:11] **Bill Madson:** I'll second. **Mayor Robinson:** Motion by Merl, second by Bill. All those in favor? I opposed. Consent agenda is approved. That moves us on to reports. There is no formal council business tonight. So, Mr. Moroni, one report. **Dave Moroni:** I know there were some conversations earlier as you were walking in tonight on the status of of signage u in the signage program out on on Highway 52. I just want the council to know that uh we did coordinate a meeting this week. Jeff was was attending the meeting with me through Senator Schmidt. It was good enough to uh contact the folks at MIDOT. contacted Goodyu County and we actually had a a really I think productive meeting on Monday at at city hall with Senator [12:57] **Dave Moroni:** Schmidt, Representatives of Mindot and Good Hugh County to talk about not just cleaning up some of the the the the signage that was slow to be installed and getting that set up and ready to go, but also as a result of the ombbudsman process that we all went through um earlier this year to reiterate to to the highway department that there's still some unfinished business with respect to signage beyond the standard set of signs that Mandot was going to put in as a result of the project. And we didn't want to lose sight of of that part of the agreement. And thanks to M to Senator Schmidt, we were able to convene the meeting and and have I think a very good conversation with Mandot. And we are expecting some follow-up action uh with Mandot. I don't know what the end result or what the outcome will be [13:43] **Dave Moroni:** relative to signage as a result of the onbudsman process, but uh I think it was pretty clearly stated to the highway department that we're not done with that work yet and we really do uh look forward to them cooperating with us to try to find some answers for signage beyond the standard package. So, we'll be working on that uh as we move forward. So, again, thanks to Senator Schmidt and and obviously Good Hugh County and and MDOT for coming to meet with us yesterday to talk about this. [14:15] **Brenda Bursh (Ambulance Director):** Brenda I have no business, but as this is the last meeting I'll attend as ambulance director, I'd just like to thank you for the work you've done with me in the years that I served in that position. [14:35] **Mayor Robinson:** Thanks Bren. Chief? **Jeff McCormick (Police Chief):** Chief, as Dave alluded to, uh you know, we're working on uh uh several aspects of the uh the signing issues, uh related to uh 52, 24, 20, etc. Uh I don't know if Ron sent an update out to council, but I just wanted to kind of bring you up to speed. Dave touched on our our meeting uh this week. Last week, Juan Ron and I met with uh some representatives of our business community down in the southern uh end of our city. Um and received some real good information from them. Uh tried to clarify some issues and now we're going to be bringing that back. Some of it was brought back to Mindot yesterday in the meeting. Uh I know Ron is going to be um communicating with Senator Schmidt and trying to work towards a resolution um [15:22] **Jeff McCormick:** on those issues. Um related to that, the street signs have been ordered. They were shipped yesterday, I believe. Uh we're hoping to have the ones that do not uh require post to be pounded in uh to be mounted uh before the uh the weekend as on as many locations as we can. As those get up, we plan on sending updates out to the the business community to let them know which locations and that type of information so that we can keep them in the loop um as that happens. I know the county is working uh at the same pace on trying to get their signs up on the county roads and the township roads as well as um other signs, speed limits, that type of thing that the county's responsible for. [16:06] **Jeff McCormick:** Um and then separate from that, uh this Friday is a home game. Uh and I just want to remind people that, you know, part of the area, uh along 19 is yellow. Uh it seems every year we get some people that are parking in there. Unfortunately, we end up having to take enforcement action, which means a ticket. Uh we don't like to do that. Uh we do try to the first couple of games to get people to, you know, get back, get the car moved, but I just want to remind people to pay attention to the no parking areas down there. Uh also, there is overflow parking on the uh south side of 19. Avail yourself of it, but you know, watch when you cross carefully as we do not have the uh crossing um area and lights installed yet. I know that's something that we're working on the permitting process for. Uh, it just isn't there yet. That's all I have. Thanks. [16:56] **Linda Rappe (City Clerk):** Linda. Yes. I wanted to um ask which council or which evening you guys would like to reschedule a meeting for. The November 4th city council meeting is actually the night of the general election. So, by state law, we are not allowed to hold a meeting that evening. [17:14] **Linda Rappe:** And in order to comply with additional state law, we have to canvas the election results between three and 10 days after the election. So I know in sometimes years past, we have met like that following Thursday after the Tuesday election, but that would not meet the state requirement of the 3-day minimum. So I am proposing that we meet either Wednesday, November 12th or Thursday, November 13th. Uh, and that is because Monday the 10th is a planning commission meeting and Tuesday the 11th is a federal holiday. So, it's kind of a unique circumstance that we have to go that far out after that normally scheduled time. But, uh, in order to meet the state requirements, we we have to do that. So, I'm I'm asking you which [18:01] **Linda Rappe:** evening would work best for you. And then if I could get a motion to set that alternate date. **Bill Madson:** How would that affect if we had it on that Wednesday or Thursday, we have our second meeting the very next week? Is that So change the I don't have a calendar in front of me, but change the second meeting in November that one instead and hold the meeting. **Linda Rappe:** Well, no. I'm I'm just wondering did we want to have meetings uh a week less than a week apart? I mean, do we need to do that? Can we have We're going to have to have a meeting, okay, that week anyway. So, I guess it's up to you if you want to change the first meeting or the second meeting. Or [18:46] **Linda Rappe:** what you could do is have three meetings that month if you want. But I mean, we could do it the 12th and the and the 25th if we needed to. **Mayor Robinson:** change both meetings. You could, you know, for that month. I mean, because that's going to throw a wrench into everything, but then we'll be meeting the following first Tuesday in December. [19:06] **Dave Moroni:** And we've actually scheduled a public meeting for that date uh for the truth and taxation process. **Mayor Robinson:** So, you're going to you're going to be meeting the 3rd of November, the day before. **Linda Rappe:** Well, we can't canvas the election results. Yeah. Which we have to do by law. So, right, in order to canvas the election results, you'd have to do it either starting on Friday, November 7th through Friday, November 14th. Those are the dates in which we could if we have to have meetings back toback, we just have to have meetings back to back. [19:39] **Mayor Robinson:** What's the date of the first council meeting in November? **Linda Rappe:** Be the fourth. It'll be the election day. **Mayor Robinson:** That's election day. **Bill Madson:** Just go with the 12th. Be done with it. **Mayor Robinson:** So, well, I'm I'm fine with either of those dates, I guess. **Merl McCusker:** I'm good with the 12th. **Leroy Shlam:** Yeah. Wednesday the Wednesday the 12th. **Mayor Robinson:** Y does that work for everybody? Yeah. Okay. If I could get a motion then to reschedule the November 4th meeting to November 12th, then we'll have um **Merl McCusker:** so moved that done. **Mayor Robinson:** Okay. And I will second that. And motion by Muro, second by Bill. All those in favor? I oppos. [20:14] **Mayor Robinson:** Thank you. Anything else? Is that all? **Bill Madson:** That's it. Nothing. Nothing. Uh yeah, I have um some concerns. As we know, we got the uh report that we're working on with MDOT regarding our south uh whether we can have some write offs or write or whatever out there. What I'd like staff to do in anticipation of that report coming out hopefully within a month or so is putting together some numbers on uh a potential loss of tax base taxes. We also have um quite a few [21:02] **Bill Madson:** assessments tied up with the with uh a lot of those um businesses. How would how would that play in so that we can have that information that when that report comes out, we can have the the knowledge to whatever way that report comes out to move forward. [21:26] **Bill Madson:** Whether we got to go to the state legislature, you know, our our our senators and representatives, whatever route it is we got to go. But it'd be nice to have all the information there so when we get that report we can hop on our horses and and attack the problem. So if staff could over the next few weeks put that together to coincide with uh uh with that report coming out hopefully soon. [21:54] **Mayor Robinson:** Do you know Bill when we're going to get that engineering report? **Bill Angerman (City Engineer):** Supposed to be sometime in October. Dave, is that your understanding on that? **Dave Moroni:** It was one of the items we discussed again yesterday. And I think it's a matter of of processing the information that who's the consultant doing the study. Processing that information through Mindot I think so far has taken a little bit longer than than MDOT had projected. So as best we heard yesterday, I think we prepare for late October, early November at best. [22:31] **Dave Moroni:** And that really depends on Mandot's ability, I feel, to really process the information that SE is generating for them to review. There's a little bit of review time required, you know, Mindot. **Bill Madson:** Originally, didn't they say that, well, it be September, maybe go stretch into October. Now we're talking **Dave Moroni:** They are behind and they'll admit they're behind. [22:55] **Bill Madson:** So has done their job, but it's Mindot that's holding up the processing or something. **Dave Moroni:** I'm not ready to say that, but from what I understand is that um the entire time frame has has been delayed some from the original night that we considered the the proposal from and and was confirmed by MDOT that their review time was to follow each one of the submittals of I think there's been several submitts made by SE to Mandot, but they didn't get reviewed as as quickly as what was suggested in the original study. So, and and um also Lenell, if staff can look into who we may have to talk to, whether it's at a state, federal level, uh [23:42] **Dave Moroni:** League of Minnesota Cities, National League of Minnesota Cities. So, we have some names and stuff associated with whatever route, you know, the council wants to to try and explore. **Mayor Robinson:** Yeah, we'll definitely have to go. I mean, we'll have to start climb the ladder most likely, but I think we can we can pull some federal side in there, too, and and and see what we got to do when it comes to that, but those numbers will be good to That's uh that's all I have. [24:13] **Mayor Robinson:** Wow. Thanks, Bill. Um it's exciting that I sit here and I listen. We're going to try to do some preventive things with this instead of wait for it to happen because it's pretty obvious the waiting don't work very good. **Leroy Shlam:** The other thing uh for my council members and mayor tonight is I this whole overpass thing and all this has just pushed one too many buttons with me and and um I think the whole thing is um is almost like a sin or something how it all worked out and and I'd like to give you all a little background on my thinking on this and uh the one thing I'll try to thought to do was put any emotions into this, but I uh something has to change with MDOT. [25:07] **Leroy Shlam:** This is just not workable the way they do things. I don't know of any small town that doesn't know their town better than MDOT. I don't know of anybody that doesn't know their small town traffic patterns better than small towns. [25:25] **Leroy Shlam:** Um, when Midot comes in and either tells us what they're like or what they're going to do or what they're going to change, I don't know why we aren't talking more about how we're going to work together instead of hearing how it's going to be all the time. I some examples I can give you is a couple weekends ago, they were doing blackpping out there. Somebody came up to me and said that they didn't want to mess with things. So, they went out to the new overpass and they were going to get on the highway to go north. And they got out there and they were all blocked off and they said they had to come back to town and go to the overpass at [26:11] **Leroy Shlam:** Casey's. They said that there was all this traffic and congestion because trucks were going out there. Couldn't get on. They had to come back to Casey's. Then that afternoon, I was out on the call up by Casey's and when I looked over that overpass was blocked off and now it had been switched back to the other one. Um, I understand there's construction, there's problems. Uh it hopefully it only lasts so many days, but it just seems to get more bizarre to me as time goes on. Uh the right-hand turn lanes and the left-hand turn lanes, they they come to us and say if they are going to do it, [26:57] **Leroy Shlam:** it's our problem. Uh we didn't ask for the the turnabouts and the overpass where it is. All I ever heard of was overpass. That's what ended up being the final thing. Then we got to turn roundabouts with it and whatever. Well, that's all fine and dandy. Then I hear from the businesses out there uh that their business is down and I figured, well, the road will eventually get open. Signage will be up. It'll come back. [27:32] **Leroy Shlam:** But then I hear from citizens that like to go out to Super America for their coffee and they said they they can't believe how there's nothing out there since the overpass was opened up. Uh I hear from the businesses that they came around like month and a half ago and said you got to pay for your signage now or otherwise we ain't guaranteeing you anything. And then there's extra money for signage. Um, they set a deadline to close the stop sign stop lightss out there, but they never had the signage up when they did that. I just don't know how that can work. [28:14] **Leroy Shlam:** I can also understand if you come from the south, the one advantage you got is you can see subway sign, you can see country kitchen sign, uh you can see Super America's sign, but now you're probably passed. So why isn't there signage at the Casey's overpass that points them all back to this? [28:37] **Leroy Shlam:** So the other thing is they talk about development. If we get more development out there, it'll help everybody because of more traffic. Well, I can tell you that the old Highway 24 going out there one morning out at Country Kitchen, I know I sat over five minutes. I think it had to be close to 10 minutes because the traffic was so bad on 24 to get on. Um, they talk about the safety of the 86 overpass. [29:08] **Leroy Shlam:** Well, or stop sign. Part of the reason we had safety was that is you could go sit out there and the stop and go lights stop the people so you could get on. Well, you aren't you aren't having that anymore. So, it's steady traffic and it's more harder to get on out there. I I could sit here and and go on and on about the right hand turn lanes. Okay. So we can accept the fact if we can do this study and maybe we have to pay for it, maybe we have to make it work. I don't think that's fair to the city of Canon Falls, but we can pay for it. We can do it if it helps our businesses. But right now, they are really hurting and it's in a big effect. [29:56] **Leroy Shlam:** And I think this whole project, especially with signage, has been so mismanaged. And they talk out of both corner of their mouths. Uh, you can't have right-hand turn lanes, you can't have blending lanes, and then I go to Sroa and they have a crossing at the covered bridge and they just built it. [30:20] **Leroy Shlam:** So, the hypocrisy of trying to do something with this stuff is just driving me crazy. And people call me all the time and tell me their concerns. If you're a caring person and you emphasize with them, you know what's going on. But when we try to do something down here, it's like it's some kind of a joke. And I would like another meeting with the state. [30:48] **Leroy Shlam:** And I If we can't get another meeting with the state, if we can't get some kind of better coordination, I I am going to write a letter to Dayton, not because I'm threatening anybody, but people have to know about this. This is not workable and it's gone too far and it's affecting people's lives. it's affecting people's income and you can tear off tear out the blend in lanes and then you can turn around and say it's two years before we can put them back. Uh there was no helping us and saying we'll temporarily leave them in for 6 months till we can get this study done. There's all kinds of things they could have done to work [31:34] **Leroy Shlam:** with us. And I'm really tired of being pushed around. And I'm really tired of the fact that these people got this investment in their businesses out there. They have a high tax base. I also know that two years ago, I had a big box store and a and a private person get a hold of me to see if we would annex out the 86 to that overpass. And I told both of them there's no overpass going in out there. So my thing is when that overpass goes in at 86 and you've got two miles of flat road each way and they can see the businesses, I don't think they're going to want to build in our hills out here on the south end of town. I don't think [32:20] **Leroy Shlam:** if they can spend 250,000 to get the rid of the green clay to put their building up out there and they don't have that on 86. Um I don't think they're going to move out there and I don't know why that isn't a big concern of the state. I don't know why that isn't a concern to Mandot. But this whole thing has just gotten to the point for me where I just feel terrible about it. I don't know how to deal with it. I have talked to Matt Schmidt, Tim Kelly, um, and I realize this is a dance and we all have to do the dance together. But for some reason, we don't seem to have an orchestra out there. So, I don't know [33:05] **Leroy Shlam:** what the hell's going on anymore. But I am really burnt out on it. And I wish the council would email the governor or whatever. And this whole mind thing has to be changed. It has to get better somehow. Sorry about all that. Thank you. **Mayor Robinson:** Thanks, Leroy. I know it's uh uh it's a concern of everybody. I know we've all been contacted on it and uh and Mandot is uh very difficult to work with a lot of times and we're just going to have to keep pushing uh and not lay down till this thing is till this thing's done to our satisfaction. Uh like uh Dave and them said uh like Dave said, you know, this project's a long way from being over with. And uh um you know, I I called before they even took [33:52] **Mayor Robinson:** those intersections out and said, you know, why not leave at least, you know, one of them open? Well, I'll look into it. We'll get back to you. I never heard anything back. So, I mean, I know exactly how you feel, Leroy, uh, with with those guys, and we're going to have to keep staying on top of them. Uh, I don't care how many of them we piss off. [34:10] **Bill Madson:** Uh, excuse me, uh, Robbie. Um, and I'll ask this either Lenell or Dave, as I understand it, we're right in the middle of two mind districts, correct? Is 19 a dividing line on that? **Dave Moroni:** Yeah. **Bill Madson:** Is there a way that we can convince Mandot to move that line u I I would suggest south so that we're in the St. Paul district. I mean I could see them moving it the other way but instead of splitting because we're because we're on one hand at times we're dealing with MDOT St. Paul other times MDOT Rochester. I think that's also a hard road to ho for us. **Leroy Shlam:** You make a good point, Bill, because the first time we [34:57] **Leroy Shlam:** dealt with Rochester, that was the weirdest thing I ever experienced. And finally seemed like when we got on the obvious stuff, whatever it is, that we started getting a little bit of help, a little bit direction, and then we get shifted back to Rochester again. So, you make you make a hell of a good point that there's this this going on. **Bill Madson:** Yeah, that's why I said move it initially, move it south. **Mayor Robinson:** as long as they don't bring the Met Council with them. **Bill Madson:** Well, there is that, but we will have that Met Council issue if we ever connects out north, too. So, well, and I I'd also like to point out that when this recession was going on, we had things going on at our industrial park. [35:42] **Bill Madson:** We had people building here. We had things going on here that nobody else had. Yeah. So, don't tell us that we aren't important to the highway. We aren't important to the tax base. We are important to Goodyu County. We want to do this dance together and that's how it should be done and it isn't being done that way right now. Sorry. **Jeff McCormick:** When we met with Mindot, I actually raised that question um of we've got this project and then you know next year there's going to be the project at 86. You know, are they going to be treated the same? [36:13] **Jeff McCormick:** Are they going to be you know um coordinated in the same manner? and they indicated that they do work um across the districts on these types of issues. Um I have to agree I'd much be rather be working with the St. Paul district. Uh I don't know Dave your thoughts on whether it'd be successful in getting to relocate the line wish for. **Dave Moroni:** Yeah, I suppose that's true because with the Homemstead Medical Clinic that access was through Metro Mindot and we had a little bit of a difficulty there, but it's a point well taken and we did discuss that yesterday too on the basis of just signage alone. We tried to impress upon MDOT not just yesterday but going back more than a year that we've got some different circumstances here with this project and jurisdictionally one of them is we have two mindot [36:59] **Dave Moroni:** offices to deal with both of which control different parts of the transportation system in this community both of which have sign authority and I've tried to make it abundantly clear to mind that I'm not prepared we're not prepared to begin trying to suggest to two different offices of MDOT that we think as a community you ought to permit certain types of signage north where the Metro Midot office controls or south where district 6 controls and try to figure out and get agreement because it is difficult to do that. **Bill Madson:** Well, well, how many cities in the state of Minnesota are are divided into two different mind? [37:38] **Dave Moroni:** I don't know the answer to that, but it's it's it's fewer rather than more. Yeah. **Leroy Shlam:** The other thing Jeff and Dave when you guys are talking too is that clear back when Aaron was here like two years ago we talked about our crossing down at that ball diamonds. [37:55] **Leroy Shlam:** First it was an issue cuz we couldn't just have a painted crossing. We had to have lights. So then we went to the lights and we agreed to that. Then they were going to put in the things for the ramps and they built the highway and never did that. Then it was going to happen next year. We're still waiting. [38:14] **Leroy Shlam:** We're still waiting on a safety crossing down there with these ball games. And in the summertime, we've got other towns that love our ballpark and want to play here. And we still don't have our crossings. And all this stuff to me is just not acceptable anymore. It's gone too far. **Jeff McCormick:** It is something that hasn't uh been forgotten, Leroy. Um, you know, I know that, uh, we're continuing as staff to to work on that. Um, primarily it's just because we we requested to move it, we had to go back into a permitting process. Um, and the reviews through Mindot. Uh, we feel that, uh, at the end of the day, this is going to be a much better location that makes more sense for our community than where MDOT wanted to stick it. Um, as far as the crossing [39:00] **Jeff McCormick:** location be previously. So, if the review better might have been where Mindot wants to put the crossing location previously. So, so if the review for that has taken this long, imagine how long that safety study is going to take. **Leroy Shlam:** Yeah. Years. **Dave Moroni:** They just say the year. I I think you added accurate. I may have, you know, the and Dave has had more dealings with the uh the permitting on the the crossing for seventh than than I have. But, uh I think at the end of the day, uh we're going to end up with something that uh is going to serve us, our community, um much better going forward. um especially with the usage of those two lots uh than we would have ended up prior. And then of course if we can tie this in with some other things to you know connect underneath the bridge and some of those [39:45] **Jeff McCormick:** uh down the road that it'll really come together quite nicely I think. **Leroy Shlam:** Well, one thing, don't ever don't ever get me wrong that I ain't glad for the staff down here and what you people have done because I've told my wife if I had Dave's office up there and the state guy came to see me, I wouldn't want that office because I think he'd be out in the river out there somewhere. So, it's very appreciated your patience and how you people can work with this. All I know is if I had somebody call me up at 2:00 in the morning is out of heat and I told them I have to study this first and then I told them the next day that I got to look up the name on their furnace and [40:30] **Leroy Shlam:** I would get there like 30 days later. I don't think I'd be in business too long. So I don't know where the logic is to all this stuff. It drives me crazy. But I am very grateful for what you people do down here. **Mayor Robinson:** Well, Mandot certainly brings the uh the meaning of red tape to our to our highways. Um I understand your frustration, Leroy. You know, in in the seven years I've been here, I've been working six of them to get uh Mindot to stripe the intersection downtown to clearly define the driving lanes and stop the improper right turns. [41:03] **Mayor Robinson:** As you can tell, we still don't have the striping. **Leroy Shlam:** You remember when when they came down here and we had to move the sign down here by the stop sign? How ridiculous was that? And that's okay. That's your rules. But how is ridiculous? **Mayor Robinson:** It gets better. And I can I can tell you one after the meeting. [41:21] **Leroy Shlam:** It It just gets unbelievable. Oh, man. I got to quit, guys. Jay, that's for sure. Jay, do you have anything? **Jay Duncan:** Did yesterday in the meeting with the ramps for the sidewalks out there, was that discussed at all? **Dave Moroni:** We don't have an answer for why there isn't a cut through. Uh, and there's more than one crosses that should have been dealt with. We're scratching our heads. We've asked for uh an explanation as to why that's the way that it is. We don't have that explanation. **Jay Duncan:** Bring that up, Jade. [41:51] **Jay Duncan:** Yeah, it was part of the I know I talked to a lot of people and uh people from outside our our area and as soon as you mention Mandot, everybody says the same thing that they're hard to deal with. So, it isn't just the Rochester or whatever. And the businesses out south. [42:18] **Jay Duncan:** I mean, McDonald's, too. It's It's empty. I mean, they're getting hit hard. And I don't know what you know what to do either. I mean, it's crazy. Something's got to be done. Now, they didn't They said November, but I don't think they said a year. So, who knows? [42:42] **Mayor Robinson:** That's it. Okay. On a minute, Brenda, you've done a great job. And on a lighter note, I was happened to be gone last week uh for a family emergency down in Georgia and uh was talking to a gentleman um down there and uh came out that uh his wife was from Minnesota. So, I gave him a business card and uh my mom happened to be in the hospital and the the uh uh gentleman's wife actually worked at the hospital and uh she came up. She says, "You know, I was in your town just last week." Uh she was up here visiting her family in Jordan, Minnesota, and uh they were out at the campground and they visited the town and they really and she really loved the town and and what a great town it was and uh so I mean we're [43:27] **Mayor Robinson:** known all the way down in Georgia. So, uh it's uh great to get news like that. uh you know, even when you're away from home uh under different conditions. So, uh uh good job to uh the staff, the citizens, and everybody that makes Canon Falls the place it is to be. And uh we'll get through this interchange thing and uh we'll get it to our liking yet cuz we people in Canon Falls don't go down without a fight. So, if nobody else has anything, motion to adjurnn. **Council Member:** So, move.