good afternoon welcome to the october 6th formal city council meeting for the phoenix city council i will call the meeting to the order with the clerk call the roll councilwoman ansari here councilman decision here councilwoman councilwoman o'brien councilwoman pastor councilwoman stark councilman waring here vice mayor garcia mayor gallego here thank you for joining us we have interpretation services led by mario barajas mario i will turn to you to explain thank you mayor hello my name is mario barajas and i'm going to be serving as spanish interpreter for today's city council formal meeting i'll now take a moment to introduce myself to our spanish-speaking audience and review some brief instructions thank you so much i will uh turn to our city clerk to read the 24-hour paragraph the titles of the following ordinance and resolution numbers on the agenda were available to the public at least 24 hours prior to this council meeting and therefore may be read by title or agenda item only ordinances number g 6899-6905-s 47965-47966-47968-48014 and resolutions 21959-21967 thank you i will turn to our city attorney to explain how public can comment and participate thank you mayor members of the public may speak for up to two minutes to comment on agenda items to be discussed comments must be related to the agenda item and the action being considered by the council general comments that go beyond the scope of the agenda item must be made in the citizen comment session at the end of the agenda the city code requires that speakers must present their comments in a respectful and courteous manner profane language threats and personal attacks on members of the public council members or staff are not allowed a person who violates these rules will lose their opportunity to continue to speak thank you agenda item one is boards and commissions councilwoman guardado do we have a motion yes mayor motion to approve mayor in city council boards and commission's nominations second all those in favor please say aye aye aye aye any opposed please say nay passes unanimously we next move to liquor licenses the city advises the state of arizona on liquor licenses councilwoman gardado do you have a motion motion to approve items 2-34 i will second and say happy birthday to jim waring um thank you so much any comments on the liquor licenses all those in favor please say aye aye aye aye any opposed please say nay passes unanimously city clerk are we ready for ordinances resolutions new business planning and zoning yes mayor councilwoman guardado do we have a motion yes mayor motion to approve items 35 through 127 except the following items 40 through 42 47 48 64 65 66 120 through 124 and 127 item 75 is requested to be continued to october 27 2021 item 124 is as revised and excluding these items for public comment 86 115 125 after omnibus emotion i think we're good okay perfect uh thank you so much for that motion do we have a second second any corrections or comments roll call can i make one direction please councilman it's not my birthday but thank you for the thought oh what's the birthday uh doing sign doing in your office book talk i don't think we have one but in case i want to take out any more time i just make that point since people are texting me lots of congratulations so thank you mayor councilwoman pastor um i wanted i missed the part did item 64. i have a conflict for item 64. yes councilman gordano did hold that that one back thank you all right roll call i'm sorry yes yes o'brien yes pastor yes yes garcia yes there you go yes passes 9-0 all right councilman gardato do you have a motion on the order of the meeting yes mayor i make a motion to suspend the rules and take item 127 out of order okay we have a motion and a second this vote will be on the order of the meeting all those in favor please say aye that passes unanimously we will now hear item 127. thank you mayor do we councilwoman o'brien thank you mayor as we enter our 20th month of being in a nationally declared pandemic there are a couple of things which are clear we are making great strides to lessen the impact of this virus but we will not get rid of it entirely and must learn to go about our pre-pandemic daily lives the best we can armed with the knowledge and medical advice provided to us the city has done a commendable job at following cdc guidelines and making sure the safety and well-being of all our residents remains top of mind this discussion today is about remaining consistent in our regulations across the city currently our outdoor parks are closed to out-of-state competitive tournaments while our convention center and theaters remain open to out-of-state events and visitors since june our indoor convention center has held four national events for youth sports and competitions just last week our maryvale baseball stadium hosted two international baseball teams filling the stands with people of all ages while cdc guidelines are clear with the current mitigation protocols the city has in place the safest place for our kids to be is outside playing initially i wanted this discussion to be a discussion about fully reopening our parks with no limitations however as i said on the campaign trail in order to get things done and make sure everyone can agree compromises have to be made currently vaccinations are available to all individuals age 12 and older soon a vaccination will be approved for those aged 5 to 11 should parents make the choice to vaccinate which is why the motion i'm making today is to reopen our parks to out-of-state tournaments for sport teams with kids age 12 and older participating and then a week after the fda approves the the cobin 19 vaccination for kids aged 5 to 11 that we fully reopen our parks to all out of state tournaments thank you we have a motion and a second we do have about five members of the public or sixth to comment so i will begin with members of the public if our staff could call those names our first speaker is deborah hunter deborah are you on the line yes i'm here uh you may probably thank you um my name is dr deborah hunter i'm a local pediatrician a mother to six children i've been board certified nutrition for 16 years and have devoted my career to managing the physical behavioral and mental care of children i want to speak in support of this item 127 to open the parks to sports symptoms of anxiety and depression have increased in children and teens during this pandemic with misbehavior disruptions in appetite and sleep worsening school performance and increased risk of suicide in a meta-analysis of 29 studies published in the journal of american medical association including over 80 000 youth globally the prevalence of child and adolescent depression and anxiety symptoms have doubled during copenhagen especially in addis lessons and girls emergency room visits for suspected suicide attempts among girls between the ages of 12 and 17 have increased by 26 percent during summer of 2020 and by 50 during winter 2021 compared to the same periods in 2019 these numbers are published by the researchers from the u.s centers for disease center for disease and control and prevention mental health experts in psychiatry and pediatric behavioral science pediatrics are very concerned about how the disturbance disturbances in our social rhythm significantly increase the risk of the development of major depressive episodes one such physician dr timothy sullivan states that we need to be way more concerned about the accumulating emotional burden caused by the effects of the pandemic on our habits and social interactions especially for children and adolescents for whom social interactions and peer involvement are crucial both for their healthy development and their emotional well-being close quote children and adolescents who do contract the coping 19 virus typically have mild to no symptoms at all and those that are more ill requiring hospitalization are those with underlying medical conditions according to the cdc data the overall mortality rate of infected children ages 5 to 17 is .0001 and the u.s deaths to date in children account for only 0.007 of copa deaths our next speaker is courtney oh mayor i have a couple of questions uh please councilwoman o'brien thank you thank you dr um hunter for being with us today do the current cdc guidelines prevent any domestic travel through our country what do the current cdc guidelines prevent any domestic travel through our country uh not that i know of they just require masks in by tsa guidelines right through the cdc and okay i appreciate that and what do our current cdc guidelines say about being outside versus being inside it is better to be outside wonderful thank you so much for your testimony today thank you our next speaker is courtney cosar followed by laurie lee courtney are you on the line damn can you hear me uh yes we can and you may proceed i am great thank you thank you all for your time my name is court koshar and i'm an md and a physician anesthesiologist and a business owner here in phoenix and i've been practicing for over 18 years and i also studied molecular biology virology rna dna and dcrs and undergraduate collective biology during the code pandemic i've had the opportunity to work in both the intensive care settings specifically and with covered patients as they came to the operating room emergently so i am very aware of this disease and what's involved and how perilous it was and can be and i understand the fear that's driven much of the policy um that where this policy came into effect but i do want to speak in support of this bill and the opportunity to change that because as we all remember the phrase two weeks reduced the spread the curve is turned into 18 to 20 months so i think it's time that we kind of get back to logic and the truth is that restrictive policies like this are really only damaging to children pets dr hunter just spoke to their mental health is being put at risk and that they would be much better off to be getting exercise getting outside being able to get into shape the data in the science specifically as she also mentioned does speak to the opportunity to open us up and to get people back to normal specifically i'd like to speak about article in journal infectious disease that looks at transmission rates outdoors and there were several different some meta-analysis that looked at several studies and one was from quan et al and it found that outdoor transmission rates were less than one percent or two out of seven thousand two hundred and thirty four cases that they linked to an outdoor uh transmission the clerk another study found also a transmission rate of less than one percent with 95 out of ten thousand nine hundred and twenty six cases outdoor condition the highest rate i could find in this in this article is actually five percent and that was uh five out of 103 that was linked to a construction and that was found to be a relatively poor study with clone research so it's likely inaccurate our next speaker is laurie lee followed by ron lindblad lori are you on the line lori is not on the line our next speaker is ron lindblad followed by uh katie mcpherson uh ron are you on the line and can you hear me uh yes we can but the volume's a little low sorry about that is this better ah that is um my name is ron lindblad i'm the general manager of the doubletree phoenix north from the i-17 corridor so thank you uh councilmen and women and honorable ava for letting me speak i'm asking that the sports bills be reopened to the state to out-of-state uh tournaments and play as soon as possible the toll this is taken on all the hotels along the i-17 corridor is devastating my hotel alone has already had four hundred and twenty thousand thirty dollars in definite bookings between july of 21 and january of 22. cancel this affects us and all the businesses around us the city lost out on 52 797 in tax revenue from these cancellations at my hotel alone that does not take into consideration any of the uh incremental revenues that the city makes from these other out-of-state teams that come in right now if we do not open fields we are slated to lose another 72 412 and confirmed bookings by the end of this year and the city will lose it out on 9 102 in tax revenues as well as again the increment most of these cancellations have moved to this state of the art mesa sports complex in the long run it will be harder for us to move them back to the i-17 corridor if we do not open the fields as soon as possible i-17 corridor already is struggling as the business travel has not come back and we rely on these sports teams to keep our doors open it does not make sense that our indoor convention center is open our indoor arenas are open but outdoor parks and recreation is not open for out-of-state guests the guests are coming here to the state anyways they're just going to other cities now we're struggling along the i-17 corridor and need the city to step up and support us more hotels close our next speaker is katie mcpherson followed by michael rocca katie are you on the line uh katie are you on the line oh so you don't have audio katie if you can turn that on maybe we can hear you all right uh katie's having technical difficulty so our next speaker is michael rocca good day mayor city council um this is mike rocca from rated sports we um operate a few uh events in the city of phoenix and um our whole position is to have these fields open to out-of-state play um we've been affected by covet for the last year and a half march 220 our events had to pretty much come to a close within a week and a half from kickoff rolled into thanksgiving successfully and safely we were able to kick that event off march the fields open but only to local play we then again had to pretty much go to plan b and direct traffic to fields facilities outside of the city of phoenix and that impact was felt by majority of hotels heading into our thanksgiving weekend for november we are looking to bring in a large amount of out-of-state teams and the purpose of this event is to drive the economic piece for your hotels and your businesses locally it is important that we open up the fields safely and the current events that are going on that are using city parks for local play are still accepting out of state teams that are commingling at fields that are eight minutes down the street within scottsdale mesa and surrounding partnering cities i ask that we come to some type of compromise on opening these fields for out of state play heading into the fall there is a lot of business being moved out and as we continue to keep these doors shut it will have a trickle effect going to 222 where these event holders are now looking at other cities and states to run events our next speaker is laurie lee laurie are you on the line uh lori are you there uh lori is not on the line uh katie mcpherson are you on the line i am can you hear me yes we can and you may proceed sorry about that technical difficulties good afternoon mayor gallego esteem council members my name is katie mcpherson i am a mother of four in the city of chandler i also serve as a youth mental health advocate on suicide prevention as well as digital wellness i'm calling in today because i am in support of sports and parks reopening for our students as an advocate especially in the east valley we have experienced the contagion of youth suicide in the last 97 days we have lost three students one of them to a fentanyl overdose we are currently in a public health crisis both youth mental health crisis as well as an opioid crisis and i believe that students being involved in their activities and being able to travel and being able to be with each other safely under guidelines under the cdc is extremely important as mentioned by dr hunter we've seen an increase in anxiety and depression there was a news piece by abc 15 the other day about phoenix children's hospital declaring almost a state of emergency as the state of colorado has done as well we are seeing an overflow in our er departments and in the county of maricopa we only have 225 adolescent beds and every night they are on a weight and so i'm just asking that we go back to basics and those basics are the four pillars of early childhood development nature movement connection and physical touch safely under the guidelines given thank you so much for your time mayor i have a couple questions thank you councilwoman o'brien thank you um katie thank you for getting back on can you um explain or help us better understand that the benefit that our children receive from the mental and physical in competitive regional team sports well i think one of the best things for youth no matter what age you are is having a purpose bigger than yourself and when you're part of a team it just gives you a sense of purpose and right now it's really difficult to find a sense of purpose when you know i'm going to be really honest the adults in the room are struggling to find their purpose too and so whenever we can connect students with each other and have peer-to-peer support we see things like school attendance rise discipline goes down nurse office visits go down and there's a general sense of community wonderful thank you for your testimony today thanks mayor that was our final speaker on that item thank you so much we'll go now to council member questions and comments beginning with councilwoman gordado thank you mayor i appreciate the conversation i appreciate the comments i also um would would like to say that i agree um that we need to be able to do this in the most responsible way as possible i think as a city you may or have led us to making these decisions in the most responsible way possible we've every time we've made a big decision like this we've brought um [Music] that we've brought a ton of people um together um to be able um to talk about these issues um i know there's um there is emotion on the table right now correct yes yes that is correct right um so then i you know given you know that we've always done the right thing and talked you know talked with professionals on how we've opened up and and how is it that we do things um the right way and i do believe i have two young children myself a five-year-old and a ten-year-old and i completely understand it's been an awful year it was an awful year having them behind the screen um my pre-founder he was my little one was in pre-k and now he's in kinder and i see the difference on having them being able to go back to school and having them be able to go out and play outside and then also just to be clear our fields are open um from what from what i understand our fields are open for our children to come out and play um i do want at some point being able to welcome in tournaments and welcome everyone back to our wonder to our wonderful city but i do think that we need to do it i'm the most responsible way possible so i would like to make a secondary motion to continue item 127 to the formal council meeting on october 27th to allow time for council members to receive guidance from public health experts to determine how best to allow out of state sports tournaments to safely return to city sports fields all second thought thank you we have a motion and a second so by council rules we will take the vote on the substitute motion and if that passes that would conclude the item if it does not pass we would then go back to the original motion we will continue with council member comments councilwoman i'm sorry yeah i just want to add um i also fully recognize the the impact that the pandemic has had on young people especially children um as well as the benefits that sports can bring in being on a team and i played soccer myself and and participated in many local and out of state tournaments so absolutely want to prioritize being able to bring in out of state tournaments um just want to make sure that we have as council members a little bit more time to discuss with um with health professionals and doctors and i know um you know prior to when i began on council council heard directly from experts in the field to make such decisions so i think that little bit of extra time will be helpful so that we can make the right decision for the city thank you mayor may i say something yes we'll go to councilman waring and then councilwoman pestor thank you uh mayor i just think for decisions like this parents are capable of deciding uh for themselves whether they want to participate in tournaments or what have you it's basically the same comments i won't regurgitate at all from uh it was last november we had this discussion uh i just think at this point people pretty much know what they're getting into i don't think this is endangering the health of arizonans and we should be opening up our parks pretty much completely so i'll just sum it up with that and i appreciate the time thank you thank you councilwoman passour yes i have a question for inger or cynthia um my question to the both of you is our parks are open are our parks open pretty much open uh yes councilwoman pasteur mayor members of the city council our parks have remained open throughout the pandemic this is just a remaining restriction that remains on out-of-state play in our facilities okay so we're we're completely open except for the out-of-state play yes that is correct okay and uh like everybody else you know we all went through this process this pandemic and we're part of it my kids played sports all of a sudden it came to a big halt for my son's mental health that was a a crucial part of his life and totally understand the peer-to-peer support uh a sense of community a sense of belonging and uh i believe that as a council we created great policies by working with our uh public health experts who we have on who we've hired and we have always had at the advice and gone to the advice to those doctors and experts that have guided our policy i don't believe this is fear policy or restrictive policy i believe that we have made sound decisions in this process and so i want to go back to uh that that the experts that we we have spoken to ever since we've made policy so i support the continuation mayor councilman destio thank you ma'am i am not going to be supporting the continuation with all difference to councilman guardado so i'm very fond of and i think she does a great job i just don't agree with her on this one here if we can allow sports teams to come in and sports professional teams to be doing all these things that we want kids not to be able to do then we should be able allow teams from out of state come in from for the kids too our teams have to compete with these teams other teams from out of state in order to be able to get challenges the type of challenges that they need in order to be successful in life when we we were the last to open last to open last time the last and this is the one leg that's left over so for us to wait any longer on something that turned out to be a big nothing is just doesn't make sense it makes absolutely no sense at all for us to hold off these kids like jim had said earlier these parents know better they know what they need to do for their kids and a lot of these parents are coming in from areas that are even more restrictive than arizona so i just don't get it i don't get why we're even holding back on anything at this point with these children they need to be outdoors they need to be competing they need to get back to a sense of normalcy just like everyone else needs to be able to do at this point they need to get back to normal and the sooner we get back to normal for them the sooner everything's going to be better off for them so i'm going to be opposing this continuation i think we need to vote on it there's nothing that's going to come out that we don't already know that we haven't already heard we've been at this for many many many months and there's nothing here that we're going to find out that we haven't found out before thank you mayor thank you mayor something else okay well we will um yeah we'll first go to councilman o'brien and then councilman waring thank you yeah thank you ed can you tell me when we opened the convention center did we um to our conventions to come in did we receive medical advice uh mayor councilman o'brien i am going to ask bob fingerman who is here on behalf of the convention center to answer your question bob thank you mayor members of council when we reopened the convention center we resided with a recommendation of the cdc guidelines so we didn't seek additional outside [Music] guidance from any medical experts on that you just follow the cdc guidelines mayor members of council we did participate in the city special event committee process this special event committee process so that would have included allowing so we when we had our volleyball festival that was indoors that was youth sports mayor members of council that is correct those events would have gone through the special events committee process including the baseball game at maryvale stadium councilman o'brien i don't believe that we had that i don't think we are doing that special events committee process any longer and what was the time when we stopped doing that i think we stopped in march yes do you have any additional questions councilman over here all right we'll go to councilman wearing and then councilwoman passport and then councilwoman stuck thank you mayor uh just just two things um the first uh you know we all lost a year at least a part of the year last year but as an adult that means one thing but if you're a kid and you lost your senior year of football or some other activity you're not getting that back it's gone forever it's not replaceable you can't go back and and do that when you're 40 it doesn't work that way uh and that that's terrible and i just think every day we delay on this these tournaments are meaningful for kids they're also meaningful for the parents you're never getting this time back it's a one-shot deal and maybe there'll be other tournaments if you're lucky but it just it pains me to be preventing the kids particularly but the parents have this time with them that coach them to spend time with their kids before they get older and they don't want to spend time with their parents for a while um i just think that's something that's getting a little lost in this and there's there's risk in everything that you do in life um and i just think if parents decide this is something that's worth a risk or this is something and we're letting the kids from arizona do it you know salvaging the professional sports teams the college teams they're traveling all around the country i mean it's at some point we're inviting professional teams here they're coming here some of them are playing in phoenix some are playing in phoenix facilities the fans are packed but we're going to limit rather arbitrarily this one activity i just i don't know how that makes sense second thing there is business attached to this too not only are we hurting the kids from out of state who want to come here but we're also to my mind hurting you know businesses in our city you know our competing cities are allowing this and undoubtedly recouping a lot of the hotel and restaurant money that's in travel money that comes with it so you know that's not something we want to do either tourism is a valuable component of our economy and those are two things that i just don't think we should be um just sort of blindly maybe would be the word you know uh ignoring but we're allowing all kinds of really identical activities at the same time i can see why both he'll tell yours and restaurant tours and then also the parents who want to travel here are like what what the heck so i just think it's time to let parents and individuals make these decisions what businesses get back to being business and as soon as possible not two weeks or two months from now we should be doing that now we can't make up the stuff that's been lost and i talked about this last november so i've been consistent on this issue but but here we are now almost a year later because i think that discussion was in november of last year um can't make up for lost time but going forward we can we can change and i think we should today thank you thank you we'll go to councilwoman pastor and then councilwoman stark um i think this will this question goes to ed ed the facilities that we lease out they do not they're not part of our city process or policies or rules could you uh clarify that for me because that's my understanding the um if i understand correctly so the the things like maryvale baseball stadium or the footprint center baseball stadium um papago the arena yes all of those areas right so after may of this year we did not do the review process i don't think i don't think we ever uh this year had the the facilities that are leased by other people as you mentioned have to go through uh that process because of some governor's orders so they they were left to the management of the lessees the brewers or the sons or the asu so they did not go through our city process initially they did but initially they did but after some executive orders from the governor they did not and so the the our process continued under our guidance of city buildings city parks uh senior centers everything that was under the cities that's the guidance that we gave and created policy for correct and that's why and councilwoman to your point that's why we're here because the council gave specific policy direction about the parks so the only way for that to change is through specific council policy direction in another direction okay i just you know i think there needs to be clarity placed on how our different processes came about and uh who who was who were under uh what facilities were under and what facilities weren't and uh and how that how other sports facilities and uh games are are happening um so that's why i'm asking the questions now what we're really talking about is we're really talking about out-of-state teams and out-of-state teams wanting to participate in tournaments um and uh and the other piece is uh tournament or those that host tournaments also uh being able to bring out of state out of state's teams not only for competition but also to generate money for their tournaments and then the natural impact then happens around where the tournament is and then if if people want to stay in phoenix uh then there's an impact on the hotels and and this and the businesses around them so uh that's what we're really talking about at this moment thank you councilwoman we'll go to councilwoman stark thank you um this is probably a question for cynthia or or inger how long would it take you to research what other communities have done with regards to out-of-state tournaments councilwoman stark mayor members of the city council we have done some preliminary research on that exact topic from what we have found phoenix is the only city currently in arizona that is not allowing out-of-state teams to play in city facilities for tournaments we looked across the country at some larger cities and so far we have found that the city of los angeles is the only larger city in the country um not allowing out-of-state teams as we are currently so i i guess would you be comfortable if we sought some advice from our consultants our health consultants and then be able to come back with a plan by october 26th mayor councilwoman stark members of the city council if that is what we were directed to do we'd be more than happy to take that opportunity to do so and come back with additional information i can appreciate that and yes we have as we reopen different facilities we always ask for some type of plan from the staff so we could get comfortable with it and it sounds to me like you have indeed been doing some initial research so october 26 seems reasonable thank you mayor thank you councilwoman stark any additional council comments okay then we'll begin with a roll call on the motion to continue the item to our next formal council meeting on sorry i'm sorry yes to cco stark classes 6-3 thank you we now move to items 40 41 and 42 which are all related to partnerships with our employee groups i'll turn to councilman guardado thank you mayor um motion to approve items 40 through 40 through 42. second okay thank you we'll go to comments beginning with councilwoman guardado thank you mayor i am very proud to to support these items today as a council we are allocating funds to support our city employees through appreciation programs and opportunities for continued education these allocations are one of the many ways we are ensuring that our city has a well-trained professional workforce apprenticeship programs and efforts to train and educate our workforce are important components in building a phoenix that can meet the economic demands of today and tomorrow i want to thank our labor organizations la una loco 777 ask me local 2384 and ask me local 2960 for their work in ensuring the success of our city thank you mayor thank you councilman councilman decisio no mayor i'm just going to be voting now on it thank you mayor thank you any additional council member comments and this will be a roll call on all three items roll call on items 40 41 and 42. i'm sorry yes decision no what about yes stark i apologize garcia yes yes diego yes passes 6-3 we next move to item 47 which is a proposed 27th avenue and baseline road annexation i will open the public hearing we do not have any members of the public to comment today so i will close the public hearing no action will be taken on this item today we move to item 48 which is related to hawk signals councilwoman gordado thank you mayor i would like to make a motion to approve item 48. second we have a motion and a second councilwoman cordado comments thank you mayor is again very excited for district 5 to receive another hawk light to ensure the safety of our residents as a city we need to continue our efforts to ensure our streets are safe for drivers pedestrians cyclists and all residents i want to thank the street transportation and finance departments for bringing this item forward thank you mayor thank you and this goes well with some of the work that councilman stark's subcommittee is doing on traffic safety that we are as well as some great launches that we have had from previous council votes any additional comments roll call okay yes go ahead councilman thank you mayor i'm also really excited that we're bringing this talk um to district 8. um very excited and especially thankful to dana burns and tawana brunson who worked really hard in their community to make sure to advocate and that the broadway heritage neighborhood and the community down broadway gets the support so i just wanted to shout them out thank you mayor thank you vice mayor yes o'brien a store stark yes waring yes garcia i apologize garcia yes thank you gallego passes 9-0 we next go to item 64 which is the collide arizona events programming sponsorship in partnership with the community colleges foundation councilman gordado do we have a motion shane to approve item 64. second we have a motion in a second and noting that councilwoman pastor earlier noted she will not be participating in this vote it's an exciting partnership that will really help our business ecosystem any additional questions or comments we'll call i'm sorry o'brien yes stark yes waring no garcia yes thank you gallego passes 6-2 we next move to a sister city agreement with suwon south korea i'll turn to councilwoman i'm sorry thank you mayor i just wanted to express my excitement for adding suwon south korea as our newest sister city i know this is the first one in over 16 years i'm especially thrilled to hear about the city's staunch commitment to sustainability and their work to make suwan a global green city i specifically wanted to call attention looking at their looking at the transportation electrification efforts that we've been working on at the city i was inspired by suwon's ambitious goal of securing 1000 electric buses by 2022 and they had they have an experimental car free month where 1500 cars were removed from the congested streets by 4 343 residents who volunteered to do so so i'm very much looking forward to discussing and learning from suwon and their sustainability goals so just a huge congratulations to city staff and the mayor who i know have worked incredibly hard to bring about this partnership would you would you like to make a motion sure i would um with that i will move to approve item 65. again we have a motion in a second should this motion be successful we are very much looking forward to welcoming uh delegations from suwon and a robust partnership thank you to the sister cities commission for their work on this and our korean committee who have also been so so helpful our korean community thank you look forward to supporting this motion any additional comments roll call i'm sorry yes to cco yes yes o'brien a store yes stark yes wearing yes garcia yes passes 9-0 our next item is item 66 related to the city opening a trade office in edmonto councilwoman guardado thank you mayor a motion to approve item 66 second council member comments mayor councilman cordado thank you i am very happy to support this item today i want to thank chris mackey and her entire team in our community and the community and economic development department for their work on this item in all their efforts to ensure our relationship with mexico continues in the future everyone has worked really hard i know that it's there's it's been a huge struggle um ever since the pandemic hit us and i'm very very excited that we're finally gonna be able um to open up this office and that will continue and we'll make making sure that continue that relationship continues to flourish thank you mayor thank you and a big global month for our city we will also be well welcoming a delegation from additional comments roll call i'm sorry yes decisio yes dark yes wearing we next move to item 86 which is related to the city's non-standard crosswalk markings and phoenix raceway councilwoman cordado motion to approve item 86 okay we have a motion in a second we do have one member of the public to testify on this item carly the floor is yours can you guys uh yes we can here we go thank you so much um any council questions or comments o'brien a store yes stark yes yes garcia i apologize garcia yes thank you gallego passes 9-0 we next move to item 115 which is zoning at 51st avenue and baseline in council district 7. i will turn to councilwoman sorry for a motion thank you i uh moved to approve item 115. again leave a motion in a second we do have one member of the public to comment on this item mark rodriguez the floor is yours hello mayor kate gallego and everybody at the phoenix city council mayor kg and phxtcc it's good to hear from all you guys again ever since i sent went to your city hall yesterday because you gave me that certificate mayor kg and i'm just here about the 51st avenue and baseline we have like two grocery stores a bunch of fast food joints and a tire companies and a dollar tree and all that stuff is because i heard they're they made a big old tires because it's kind of cool that they built it and i'm wondering that building then a burger place and all that other stuff because they're building like everything and all that stuff including everything here on 51st avenue baseline it's because i want to give you guys a shout out yasmin asari daddy wangado jim waring laura pastor deborah start ann o'brien and you mayor kate gallego and sal dicio i know you're listening to me i'm not a fan of you but i want to meet you in person but oh you too jim wary and because i want to meet you in person as well one of these days and i also you can give me like questions and all that stuff because i love asking questions with you guys because especially you yazzy is because i wanted to talk to you all of you guys and then i hope i'll see you guys real soon if i ever get the chance to see you guys again even though my bus is going to change on october 11 for the fair pay up because the free ride is going to end this week because i'm going to miss you giving a free ride with with this bus it's because and my birthday's coming up on november 26 of 2011 2021 on friday the black friday is because i like all of you guys and thank you mayor for giving me the certificate and i hope you have a wonderful time and you and your son and betty jim sal yazzie carlos garcia and i almost forgot about carlos garcia because i like carlos garcia and deborah stark and anne o'brien and laura pastor thank you for all have a great day let's go voltron first thank you mark any additional comments phone call i'm sorry yes to cco yes o'brien a store stark yes waring yes garcia yes diego passes nine zero thank you item 120 is an item in council district 6 an appeal of a hearing officer decision i will open the public hearing we have only one person registered speak the applicant who is in favor of the item and available for questions if anyone has questions hearing none i will close the public hearing and turn to councilman decisio thank you mayor we only have one advocate we don't need a presentation on this either unless somebody really wants one but this was i have to give the applicant a lot of kudos here we've had several abandonments in the area and this one was very difficult and he was able to get through it you know you did an amazing job of working with your neighbors working with the group this is what we want to see in the city of phoenix we want to see people be able to work together and i'm going to make a motion to approve it mayor and i've got the motion right here it's motion to overturn the hearing officer's decision and approve the abandonment request with the stipulations outlined in the preliminary abandonment staff report dated may 13 2021 with the deletion of stipulation number four second we have a motion and a second any additional comment roll call i'm sorry yes decision yes o'brien yes passes 9-0 items 121 and 122 are companion cases we will hear them jointly i will open the public hearing for the northwest corner of 34th way and bell road we do have two people to comment each of you will have two minutes we'll begin with blake marshall followed by ben tate [Music] can you hear me yes we can okay yeah this is blake marshall um you know my only concern with this case is the availability of affordable housing uh you know i've been following this since i first saw an article about the harkins theater being closed and replaced by these supposed luxury apartments so my idea was that some of these apartments would be available for housing badges things like that um but you know i'll just refer to the the nearly 50 comments against building these apartments by the residents in the area so you know if you vote to pass this you know keep that in mind and also understand you know more more of these luxury apartments aren't going to help with the affordable housing problem that we have in in phoenix so just keep that in mind that's all that mr kate good afternoon madam mayor members of council benjamin tate with with you morris 2525 east arizona biltmore circle on behalf of the applicant uh the wolf companies we're delighted to bring this case to you today uh with a staff recommendation of approval in unanimous recommendations of approval both from the paradise valley village and the phoenix planning commission this case was has been the successful to this point as a result of an enormous amount of outreach we did with the surrounding community and uh almost without exception many of the of the negative comments that mr marshall was referring to had to do with concerns uh about the quality of the project not being high enough and concerns about lowering property values and and this is a as he had mentioned this is a luxury multi-family development uh extraordinarily high quality the wolf company generally commands near if not the highest per square foot rents in every market that it operates in and so this was very much designed and uh coordinated with the members of the community with an extraordinary amount of outreach so i have a presentation but given the merits of the project and where we stand with the recommendations of approval i'd also just be happy to answer any questions the council may have wonderful and staff do we have anyone else to speak uh no we do not all right mayor man stevenson please do thank you uh so alan um there was reference i think the number was 50 people against this project but i haven't heard from anybody against this project in quite some time i didn't hear from 50 people but i did hear from from a few at the beginning i spoke with them the applicant went out and did you know what they supposed to do they go work with the neighbors to try to make it more palatable to them and i have not heard anything since i think you told me there was one person mr marshall who went to the planning commission so what i took away from this is the people who i'm very familiar with this theater in this neighborhood the theater is closing it's not going to be a theater anymore that's my old neighborhood i lived right down the street i used to go to that theater so i've now participated in the zoning extinction of both my la fitness over at scottsdale and thunderbird and now also a theater i used to enjoy but in both cases the the uh proprietors pulled out you know you can't make it stay a theater you can't make the place stay a gym even if people are happy with the status quo if nobody else wants to fill that void then they don't so this applicant came in made their presentation worked with the neighbors the houses are right there at least some of the houses in that neighborhood are right next to it very familiar with this neighborhood so the people who live right next to it who were unhappy it sounds like i don't put words in your mouth are not unhappy anymore but mr marshall who lives you know a mile or two away is the one person we're hearing from am i interpreting this data correctly mayor councilman waring you are correct uh staff did hear early on from some of the more immediate neighbors but as the applicant continued to work with them to address some of the design issues uh to assure them of the quality and work on some step back issues related to height closer up to the neighborhood they won immediate neighborhood uh support by and large and were approved unanimously at the paradise valley village planning committee for both the general plan amendment and the zoning case okay and i don't think the applicant overstated the concerns that i remember some of it had to do with height and other things like that but you know traffic you know the more standard things are all familiar with some cases but it was you know they wanted a higher quality product which i think has been delivered not not the other way around correct mayor councilman warren you are correct okay as far as i can tell the wishes of that neighborhood in the absence of anybody from the neighborhood suddenly calling in and saying something different have been respected in this process it's a lengthy process i know the applicant made concessions and spent a lot of time on this so i'm going to be supportive thank you mayor for the time thank you so much thank you for your work we're doing some very innovative things on vacant commercial properties which will be coming to the full council soon all right i will close the public hearing and then i will turn back to you for a motion uh thank you mayor just let me uh let me put on my glasses here um i don't know why i'm being vain when i'm sitting by myself uh uh i i move approval for the planning commission recommendation and adoption of the related thank you so we have a motion and a second on item 121 which we will vote on separately from 122 any comments on 1 21 or 122. congratulations to jim and the zoning attorney and everybody else and alan stephenson and your entire team i know how difficult this case was from the very beginning like jim said there were so many people in opposition and then to come today on something like this it just gives a lot of credence to how good we have a great staff and the amount of work that was put into this thing congratulations for getting it through and to the applicant congratulations thank you yes mayor o'brien a store stark this was my harkins to uh councilman wearing but i am voting yes waring yes garcia yes there you go that says nine zero we next move to item 2123 which is the southwest corner of 63rd avenue and south mountain avenue i will open a public hearing mayor yeah i apologize we do need a vote or an emotion for item 122. yeah thank you so much councilman waring uh yes i think i was wondering mayor mike maybe i missed something um thank you uh approval for the planning permission recommendation and adoption of the related organs second we'll call i'm sorry yes decisio yes waring yeah garcia yes yes passes 9-0 and i'm very excited to get to 123 in the southwest corner of 63rd avenue and south mountain avenue alignment we will open the public hearing we do not have any members of the public wishing to comment so i will close the public hearing and i'm sorry we do have the applicant here for questions if anyone has any questions seeing none we will close the public hearing and turn to councilwoman ansari thank you mayor i move to approve item 123. again the uh related resolution correct that's correct councilwoman start councilwoman sorry just confirming your motion is to approve based on the planning commission's approval and adopt the related resolution yes it is thank you wonderful we have a motion and the second agrees with that yes wonderful any comments uh this is an exciting case that will bring some of the tech corridor we've been talking about in the south mountain and i really appreciate everyone who worked with the neighborhoods to um address some of the things that they brought up and get us here today roll call i'm sorry yes to cco yes yes o'brien pasteur yes stark yes waring yes garcia yes there you go passes 9-0 uh 124 related item i will open the public hearing on 124. we do not have any members of the public except for the applicant so close the public hearing and turn to councilman and sorry thank you i uh moved to approve item item 124 as revised based on staff recommendation again and adopt the related uh ordinances and then to adopt the related ordinance emotion in a second any comments from staff or the council rule call on 124. i'm sorry yes decision yes yes wearing yes garcia yes gallego passes 9-0 we next move to item 125 which is consideration of prevailing wage ordinance we do have many members of the public here to address the council so we'll begin with public comment our first speaker is laura our first speaker is laura ailman followed by bastian andrew laura are you on the line laura are you on the line laura is not on the line our next speaker is bastian andrew followed by paul allen uh bastian are you on the line yes can you hear me yes we can and you may proceed good after you mayor gallego members of the city council my name is bastian andrew and i'm a registered lobbyist with the city of phoenix speaking today on behalf of the arizona multi housing association to oppose item 125 on today's agenda a prevailing wage ordinance the ama opposes the prevailing wage ordinance for the same reasons expressed on june 23 2020 june 30th 2020 and june 21st 2021 correspondence to the city if the june 21 2021 corresponds to the city the ama requested that the event the eight-hour rule request was approved by the council stakeholder meetings be organized by the city as the ama's knowledge no such stakeholder meetings were held nevertheless the ama expresses deep concern that this ordinance as drafted clearly conflicts with state law ars 34-321 provides in part that a the public interest in the rates of wages paid under public works contracts transcends local or municipal interest and is of statewide concern b agencies in political subdivisions of this state shall not by regulation ordinance or in any other manner require public works contracts to contain a provision requiring the wages paid by the contractor or any subcontractor to be not less than the prevailing rate of wages for work of a similar nature in the state or political subdivision where the project is located moving forward with an ordinance that appears to openly violate state law would almost certainly invite litigation and is a waste of time and taxpayer money finally the ama reminds the city of the adverse impact on housing affordability that such an ordinance presents in one prominent university of california berkeley study researchers examined the effect of california's prevailing wage laws on construction costs of low-income housing the research noted the following quote since prevailing wage rates are almost invariably higher than market wages the new law may significantly increase construction costs and effective projects perhaps to the point that they will no longer be financially feasible econometric evidence based on micro data covering 205 residential projects subsidized by the california low income housing our next speaker is paul allen followed by ricardo carlo paul are you on the line paul is not on the line our next speaker is ricardo carlo followed by alberto alvarez ricardo are you on the line yes can you hear me yes we can and you may proceed mayor council um my name is ricardo carlum the president of the associated minority contractors of arizona and we oppose this prevailing wage act for the mere fact that it small businesses do not participate some most of the small businesses don't participate in prevailing wage because of the amount of the burden that it creates administratively for them and keeping track of paperwork and also forms and everything else but the mere fact is that they do not have the manpower in order to maintain that and going through the uh resolution for the city for chapter 43 article 54 prevailing wage ordinance um i was reading through it and then paragraph number two under 43-53 it stipulates every employer of a covered employee shall support the employee benefit of apprenticeship participation as follows contributing amount of an apprenticeship program approved by the us department of labor equivalent to the provider and collective bargaining agreement of the labor organization that collectively bargained for rate prevailed should be prevailing wage for a particular class of work is determined by the us department of labor or equivalent to be a collectively bargained wage and item b shall employ apprentices from a u.s department of labor approved apprenticeship program for not less than 15 percent of the labor laws performed on the contract i can honestly tell you that small businesses cannot afford to send all their people through apprenticeship programs because a mere fact it is very costly uh not only to them having to pay them the regular labor and also having to pay for the apprenticeship program which is left primarily to the employee if they want to get into an apprenticeship program and pay those fees themselves so again small businesses have difficulty in trying to make this happen the other thing is as far as who is part of the collective bargaining are other associations that are have apprenticeship programs considered to be part of that collective bargaining in my opinion is to violate state law and it takes away our right to work state opportunities our next speaker is alberto alvarez followed by alyssa lyons alberto are you on the line alberto is not on the line our next speaker is alyssa lyons followed by clayton azito alyssa are you on the line this is alisa can you hear me oh yes we can and you may proceed thank you very much am i echoing on your side uh no you are not very good thank you very much my name is elisa lyons and on behalf of belly partnership and it's 350 company members and almost 2 000 partners advocating for responsible development and speaking in opposition to this item for many years the city of phoenix has been held as a model for stakeholder participation when we work with other cities we routinely suggest that they look to phoenix for best practices for how to engage stakeholders and how to create policy and partnerships with those they regulate last year the draft ordinance you have in front of you was brought to our attention through the grapevine not through proactive outreach from the city that policy language would have gone far beyond regulating city products excuse me city contracts but would affect every single development project throughout the entire city it was far-reaching and we believe illegal under-state statute we also believe that the best policy comes from a meaningful stakeholder process but that didn't happen this year the council approved an eight-hour rule for staff to study options for a prevailing wage policy we believe the results of that study would have been a formal finding that a draft policy the same num one that was circulated last year is prohibited by state statute we still hold the opinion the draft you have in front of you today is illegal and prohibited we'd like to see the previous eight hour rule motion completed by city staff and released to the public agenda item 125 circumvents consideration of the results of that eight-hour rule study we ask that you vote down this proposal completely whether tonight or at the next formal meeting thank you our next speaker is clayton a nuncidro followed by jen springerman clayton are you on the line clayton is not on the line our next speaker is jen springman followed by derek avea jyn are you on the line yes can you hear me okay yes we can great thank you uh good afternoon mayor council members jen spring to the greater phoenix chamber in respectful opposition to the proposed prevailing wage ordinance um while no formal action can be taken today it sets a dangerous precedent in the lack of process taken to get here since the council voted in favor of the eight hour rule earlier this summer the issue has not been fully vetted through stakeholders and we have not had a chance to hear staff feedback we believe that prevailing wage ordinances have a chilling effect and create undue burdens on businesses especially smaller businesses when trying to bid on these types of projects these types of ordinances generally result in less businesses bidding on projects as a whole we understand this proposal may be limited to construction projects and you've heard some of the concerns from industry-specific leaders but speaking from a broader business community perspective this type of ordinance sends the wrong message that contradicts phoenix's open for business and ready to support struggling job creators who are still reeling from the economic catastrophe of the coven 19 pandemic when we spoke against prevailing wage policies before the council last year we expressed our strong concerns that it would have on increasing prices on projects such as affordable housing taking us in the wrong direction to remedy this issue lastly we have serious concerns about the legal conflict that this would create the state statute and do not want the city to go through another legal battle again we're in respectable opposition and urge you to oppose oppose sending this any further thank you for your time our next speaker is derek avilla followed by joshua umar derek are you on the line derrick is not on the line our next speaker is joshua umar followed by christopher barker joshua are you on the line yes can you hear me yes we can and you may proceed thank you my thanks to everybody for the opportunity to speak today my name is josh omar i'm the executive director of the american subcontractors association here in arizona uh we have more than 200 member companies they run the gamut in size complexity union non-union every trade majority are located here in phoenix and many do work for the city we approac oppose a prevailing wage ordinance as both unnecessary and overly burdensome in addition to seeing the results of the eight-hour rule research that was mentioned earlier i would urge the mayor and council members to have expanded conversations with stakeholders especially subcontractors about the efforts these businesses have already undertaken to address the problems the proposed ordinance purports to solve for example some council members believe a prevailing wage approach is needed to address the current skilled labor shortage but even without davis bacon style requirements the number of just construction apprentices in arizona today outstrips the total number of apprentices from all fields in arizona from 2017. and subcontractors are already leading the way on workforce development and training three of our members have invested in and partnered with schools such as south mountain community college to create affordable accessible construction programs that lead to high paying jobs in plumbing carpentry and electrical trades another member uh several members are also designing and investing their own company training efforts in 2020 one of our members installed plumbing in 7 000 new homes here in phoenix almost 25 percent of those were completed by graduates of that member's own company's nine-month training academy our members and many other subcontractors already pay excellent wages and provide good benefits and have continued to do so during the pandemic those new plumbers i just mentioned they made an average wage of seventy thousand dollars a year workforce shortages in the need for middle-class jobs can be addressed without the enormous compliance burdens that prevailing wage ordinance would impose on both contractors and city staff let's involve subcontractors in finding solutions that will not limit competition on municipal projects or impose smothering administrative burdens on small companies who are otherwise qualified to perform city jobs thank you again for the opportunity to speak in opposition today our next speaker is christopher barker followed by terrell barlow christopher are you on the line right thoughts that's great can you hear me yes we can and you may proceed mayor council thank you for your time my name is chris barker i'm from buckeye arizona i'm a 5th year apprentice in the ua local 469 pipe trades and excuse me plumber and pipefitter union i want to talk about the profiling wage because having a good paying job is important to me um because i've noticed that being able to provide basic needs for my family has become harder by the day um i'm a military veteran myself i have extensive training and the job market is not as friendly as everybody that is spoken before me thinks it is the specific training that these jobs are requiring um i know my apprenticeship uh handles it and trains in-house um so any training that i've needed on the job 469 has provided for me um so i just wanted to take a moment and just say that i'm extremely thankful for the 469 and i'm hopeful for the program that they offer but really what this boils down to is if i'm struggling to pay my bills out as it is i'm kind of fearful for my children um because they've expressed interest in joining this trade as well but i'm scared for 15 years down the road when they become journeyman and their wages are matching what they should be paid but uh so please for the sake of myself and my family please vote yes on the prevailing wage thank you our next speaker is terrell barlow followed by jonathan burkemeyer terrell are you on the line terrell's not on the line our next speaker is jonathan burkemeyer followed by re baron huber jonathan are you on the line jonathan is not on the line our next speaker is ari berenhuber followed by christopher bettencourt ari are you on the line yes can you hear me yes we can and you may proceed all righty well yeah my name is ari baron huber i am a member of unite here local 11 and i work at phoenix sky harbor airport for hms host and i'm calling in solidarity to support the prevailing wage i believe that all workers deserve to make a living wage regardless of whether or not they have the protections that union members do our next speaker is christopher bettencourt followed by brian barely christopher are you on the line christopher is not online our next speaker is brian uh barely followed by matthew kabaly uh brian are you on the line our next speaker is mark cardenas followed by travis carlin mark are you on the line hi i'm i'm online uh you may proceed thank you and thank you uh counselor for the opportunity to address you today i wanted to uh speak briefly in support of prevailing wage just uh you know just a little bit from the center for american progress uh prevailing wage promotes quality work and produces good value for taxpayers uh research um you know to the contrary from what folks have said earlier research shows that prevailing wage laws and ordinances have boosted worker productivity reduce injury rates and increase apprenticeship training which is badly needed in the state of arizona and phoenix in addition the service sector wage standard laws have been shown to decrease turnover and improve service quality because they ensure a stable well-qualified workforce prevailing wage laws produce good value for taxpayers furthermore numerous studies refute arguments that prevailing wages raise construction costs in fact research shows that these laws generate positive impacts for public budgets by increasing the amount of work performed by local contractors thus reducing the leakage of local dollars in boosting state and local tax revenues and finally it makes workers less reliant on government programs such as supplemental nutrition assistance programs so i urge you to vote in support of prevailing wage today thank you our next speaker is matthew capalbi followed by travis carlin matthew are you on the line matthew is not on the line our next speaker is travis carlin followed by anthony cartner travis are you on the line travis is not on the line our next speaker is anthony uh cartonin followed by daniel casillas anthony are you on the line you know okay our next speaker is theon connor followed by dustin crowe theon are you on the line yeah we can hear you and you may proceed yes i'm here in support of the prevailing wage some things i think that need to be looked at here are the protections of the worker as a private right to action and late stuff that goes on on these projects there's been numerous studies out there with the repeal of prevailing wages over the last five years showing that it does not work the inflation that's going on in this country is due to the lack of proper wages that are livable on top of supply you got many other aspects here that need to be looked at in favor of this for the working individuals in arizona not only in diversity but with color and everything else is when you come out of an apprenticeship program no matter who you are you make the same amount of money so there is a gap that needs to be closed there in the city of phoenix not only the skill level needs to be brought up in the city of phoenix and by doing that you can participate in apprenticeship program and being in pavilion waves as adopting davis bacon in highway and in buildings these things do many many many things for the working people of phoenix they also excuse me have a huge increase in tax revenue when you raise an individual's rate the projects will only go up it's been proven 1.5 percent to 2.5 percent when the tax revenue goes up 3.5 percent because of the wage differential between the two so you get a tax revenue increase without even raising taxes which is also a plus for the community and the city to have more projects done it also brings in contractors who are not bidding your projects you need more competitive bidding and this will bring our next speaker is dustin crowe followed by jeremy dehan dustin are you on the line dustin is not on the line our next speaker is jeremy the hand followed by william delaney jeremy are you on the line jeremy is not on the line our next speaker is william delaney followed by fernando diaz william are you on the line william is not on the line our next speaker is fernando diaz followed by grave gabriel dominguez fernando are you on the line fernando is not on the line our next speaker is gabriel dominguez followed by sarah daugherty gabriel are you on the line gabriel is not on the line our next speaker is sarah daugherty followed by michael easter sarah are you on the line sarah is not on the line our next speaker is michael easter followed by benjamin evans michael are you on the line uh michael is not on the line our next speaker is benjamin evans followed by jacob evanson benjamin are you on the line benjamin is not on the line our next speaker is jacob evanson followed by alicia george jacob are you on the line jacob is not on the line our next speaker is alicia george followed by gary uh giarmonte uh alicia are you on the line alicia's not online our next speaker is gary giormanti followed by esteban uh gomez gary are you on the line gary's not on the line our next speaker is estevan gomez followed by brandon gregory estevan are you on the line estevan is not on the line our next speaker is brandon gregory followed by xavier gravera brandon are you on the line brandon is not on the line our next speaker is xavier gravera followed by jason gutierrez xavier are you on the line xavier is not on the line our next speaker is jason gutierrez followed by grady hancock jason are you on the line jason is not on the line our next speaker is grady hancock followed by harley herder grady are you on the line okay grady is not on the line our next speaker will be jennifer jennifer are you on the line yeah that's me perfect we can hear you when you may proceed hello my good afternoon mayor and council members my name is jennifer malvey and i live in north phoenix um i just like to state having a good paying job is important to me because as a woman in the construction industry it gives me the opportunity to make equal pay to a man please vote yes on the prevailing wage thank you our next speaker is jesus uh marin cortes followed by joshua joshua mcquellen jesus are you on the line oh jesus is not on the line our next speaker is jonathan munoz jonathan are you on the line oh jonathan is not on the line our next speaker is jacob uh mcgill followed by david naff jacob are you on the line jacob is not on the line our next speaker is david naft followed by michael ness david are you on the line four and a half inches right now okay uh david can you hear us [Music] but you're always going to have something uh david could you please call in one more time we're getting some echo back no no no okay david could you please speak up louder so we can hear you is this guy talking to me uh yes i am david david naff is that you mr naff okay all right david is having technical difficulties our next speaker is michael ness followed by michael ortiz michael are you on the line michael ness is not on the line our next speaker is michael ortiz followed by tyler parsons michael ortiz are you on the line michael's not on the line our next speaker is tyler parsons followed by brianna payne tyler are you on the line tyler's not on the line our next speaker is brianna payne followed by xavier perez brianna are you on the line brianna is not on the line our next beat is robert phillips followed by jonathan uh plateauro robert are you on the line yes hi good afternoon mayor and council members my name is rob phillips i'm a fourth year apprentice with the local 469 fight creators and plumbers union i live in san tan valley having a good paying job is important to me because it is the best way to provide for my family approving this prevailing wage would be the best way to ensure that all workers are earning equal wages regardless of race gender age religion or education this would help everyone in our city county and state please vote yes on prevailing wage thank you our next speaker is jonathan platero followed by chase powers jonathan are you on the line jonathan is not on the line our next speaker is chase powers followed by roberto rivera ortiz chase are you on the line chase is not on the line our next speaker is alberto rivera ortiz followed by justin robinson alberto are you on the line yes sir we can hear you and you may proceed well good afternoon mayor and council members my name is alberto i'm from casa grande arizona i'm a member of local 469 the hvac service division i am support of prevailing wage having a good paying job is important to me because it allows me to get my wife out of work but she could spend more time with my kids taking them to school that's really important to me and i've experienced working outside of the union for the same exact job i was getting paid 17 bucks an hour outside of the union and once i joined june from the union everything changed i was able to get my wife out of work and more time with my kids please vote yes on prevailing wage thank you our next speaker is justin robinson followed by vladimir rodriguez justin are you on the line justin is not on the line our next speaker is daniel townsend followed by greg turner daniel are you on the line hey call me do it again we're getting some echo there daniel if you could good afternoon good afternoon this is dan uh good afternoon mayor gagel council members my name is daniel townsend as i said i live uh in mesa so having a good paying job here uh by the way i'm a member of 469. um i'm a fifth year apprentice i got started late in life uh i worked low-paying jobs for the first 25 years of my career um it was tough uh when i got in here i was able to make a good wage uh i have benefits i have retirement i'm able to be a better more productive member of my community um it's allowed me to do things uh helping my neighbors donating to charity uh i am very much in support of prevailing wage and uh i hope you guys will vote yes on this thank you for your time our next speaker is greg turner followed by pablo valdez greg are you on the line yes hello yes we can hear you and you may proceed okay thank you very much good afternoon madam mayor and esteemed council members i am honored to be speaking to you today my name is greg turner i am a 25-year veteran of the construction industry here in phoenix arizona a member of both local union ibw 640 and uh united association 469 i'm a journeyman in both trades and being so over all these years have afforded me a pretty decent lifestyle through many hardships i have three kids and being the non-custodial parent i have been able to provide for my children while in custody of their mother and have a house for them when they would come and see me since then my my two oldest have gone on and moved on in their lives my daughter graduated from harvard just this uh last semester during covet and my son had become a marine but i would like to talk about the fact that some of the points that were brought up burden on business is not equal to the burden on workers uh and also that uh the right to work almost kind of equals the right to exploit but more on that legality that one was talking about before is now is what we're talking about now so that's really not a talking point but as towards apprenticeships i have taught in both uh trades in the apprenticeship programs and would like to have people know that the union apprenticeships afford people uh regulated and normalized education that's not only recognized nationwide but it's also transferable and they are able to decisions f so happen work was to go slow here and uh and small businesses wouldn't be as affected negatively if they believe because uh through apprenticeships turn out more uh highly skilled highly trained people who are capable to complete jobs safely saving money i'd like to thank you and vote yes our next speaker is pablo valdez followed by zachary vincent pablo are you on the line pablo is not on the line our next speaker is zachary vincent followed by mitchell voigt zachary are you on the line okay zachary's not on the line our next speaker is your bonnie azzy followed by uh mari lopez are you on the line yvonne yvonne are you on the line yes i may proceed if you're speaking yvonne uh we cannot hear you if you could speak up that would be great can you hear me yes we can and you may proceed okay so um my name is yvonne yazzie and i've been hearing about prevailing wages and i kind of looked over some stuff and i am a fifth year apprentice with the local 469 and i can say that i have worked on the non-union site out of construction um never really put a lot of consideration into the types of different agreements and stuff until i got to work at luke air force base which was a prevailing wage job so in regards to everybody's input from what i'm understanding and hearing um this is good for individuals that are um it's not a status of union versus non-union um this is a status of you know employees that um that need better wages and it's only equal i know it's a right to work state i get that but at the same time this would help people individuals like us that are working for low wages and sometimes that's the case in most people they're out there working 10 hours a day working low wages and then you wonder why they live and they need help this could only help the economy is my outlook as far as what i'm understanding so far um and i think that that's one of the things that needs to be really looked at because these are the people that are out there that are looking to the mayors to the councilmans to people like you so that they can have a future maybe to have a better job to have a good wage so that they don't have to rely on food stamps or welfare anything like that so i would like for you guys to vote this in and that's my stand on that one and i'm with local 469. thank you our next speaker is mario lopez mari are you on the line yes yes hi can you hear me uh yes we can and you may proceed good afternoon mayor and members of the council my name is marty yepazan i'm a member of unite here local 11 and calling to express my support for the prevailing wage we believe you know intelligently that all workers deserve a living wage prevailing wage to be able to support their family thank you [Music] mayor that was our final speaker on that on this item oh uh hold on one minute uh we have one more uh jason tavares oh jason gutierrez excuse me jason are you on the line jason are you on the line jason does not appear to be on the line and with that mayor that is our final speaker on this item thank you council member comments or questions councilwoman guardado thank you mayor um and and just just to clarify um chris and if you can help me with this here um what's on the table for today is for us to be able to come up with with a prevailing um wage ordinance is that that's correct right uh mayor councilman guardado um yes the ordinance that was presented was for discussion purposes the council's not able to vote on that ordinance but the council could direct staff um to come back to prepare an ordinance and bring one back for council consideration great okay um so with that um since serving on this on this console i have been proud to support efforts to improve pay for our city workers i was proud to vote earlier today to support apprenticeships and training resources for our city employees as the fifth largest and fastest growing city in the country it is critical that we continue to be a community where residents can work live and take care of their families we know that cities with prevailing wages across the country have a greater pool of apprenticeships in other training programs these programs offer a level of playing field for women and people of color to learn the skills needed for good paying career jobs that can support a family this has been our commitment to our own city employees to ensure they can work one job with good pay health care and retirement benefits that they can rely on for themselves and their families today we are ensuring this commitment extends to construction workers on city projects as well i am i am proud of this commitment and proud to support um this item today and with that being said i would like to make a motion to approve item 125 to draft a prevailing wage ordinance for the city of phoenix and bring the ordinance back to a full city council for a formal adoption councilwoman i'm sorry mayor um i will be voting yes on this item today and i just would like to explain why phoenix is one of the fastest growing cities in the country and we have an opportunity to improve the lives of some of the people who helped to build it what we're voting on today is simply to ask staff to draft a prevailing wage ordinance for construction workers workers on city funded projects this policy already exists at the federal level and through through the davis-bacon act and as well as 39 states across the country including new mexico california texas and many other major cities i've heard directly from workers who would be most impacted by a prevailing wage policy and i've also taken the time to research it extensively myself i just want to find i just want to outline a few points that i find most compelling first this policy will help us address well-documented skilled worker shortage in our state and specifically our city i have heard about this shortage as well as hiring challenges directly from the business and development community here in phoenix but research shows that areas with prevailing wage laws offer more apprenticeship and training programs in the construction industry which helps to ensure that businesses and developers have access to the skilled labor and our laborers are actually equipped with the training they need to produce quality work second this policy will help to strengthen our local economy a prevailing wage policy would incentivize skilled workers to stay here in arizona and boost state and local tax revenues as opposed to losing talent to neighboring states and cities by advancing economic outcomes for individual construction workers and by providing fair wages and benefits to help them provide for their families third it will help keep city projects on budget unlike what we've heard today a majority of peer-reviewed academic research actually finds that prevailing wage laws do not increase the cost of construction which again i'm aware is one of the concerns that some folks have addressed and expressed today as our country is on the verge of making bold investments in infrastructure we must ensure that it not only benefits our economy as a whole but also the economic futures of our hard-working middle class families thank you go ahead thank you one of echo my colleagues have said we know that areas with prevailing wages have a greater supply of apprenticeships programs and training programs in the construction industry and will create equitable access for women and people of color into good paying career path jobs this is an important vote for the construction workers especially the ones i represent in district 8. this is common sense we're simply doing what is already done with federal prop projects and we're bringing it to city projects it's our responsibility as a city to make sure that any project that is tied to us is paying a pervading wage is paying a just wage and that anyone um that we are partnering with or collaborating with um is assuring that prevailing wage so i'm really excited um to get to work on this ordinance and get it back in front of council to make sure that private language becomes a reality here in phoenix thank you mayor mayor thank you vice mayor uh go to i think i saw councilman passport first and then councilman decision yes uh chris i have a question for you um they had brought up the eight hour rule could you please explain what happened to the eight hour rule um mayor members of the council councilman pastor um the eight hour was passed for us to do research and come back to council with that research um we presented what we came up with over the summer okay and uh and it just basically you presented what came over the summer but it didn't move anywhere am i correct um mayor members of council that's correct we didn't get any direction to go further so there was no direction by council on having moved forward so that's um in many ways that's why we are here today because there was no direction on how to move forward so it kind of was stalemate and sat what i do want to say about the prevailing wage is because we've heard from many different parts but i i strongly believe this this is more this is a pro-business item uh that it equalizes the competition and doesn't undercut the local labor from out-of-state con from out-of-state contractors and it's really equalizing the playing field and uh i hear about davis bacon i hear davis bacon has been in existence and is obviously working i do understand that some of the issues are uh tedious uh details and is time consuming but i also look at some of that as being held accountable when taking a federal contract and so i find that this is a way that we also can hold accountability on our city contracts so i do support this item councilman de cio followed by councilwoman stark thank you mayor i'm going to be voting no on this and i can we can get into a longer debate when we see the actual ordinance my understanding as of yesterday the votes were there to pass this so you know mine is more of a message to those who oppose this you're going to have a period of time to try to convince those on the council that are supportive of this to oppose it and you're going to have to use every influence that you can otherwise this will pass don't bank on the courts saving you do not do that you're going to hear people say well the courts will overturn this first of all no one knows what a judge is going to do but i can tell you the history of the city of phoenix when the city of phoenix has taken things to court they generally win almost always so the fact that we're a charter city you know i bucked the system on that end of it too you're going to have one bite at this thing so i also have a question to staff how long before we see this ordinance there and councilman de cecio us uh provided that there are a majority of council members who would vote for this item today i would expect it could take the city attorney's office what do you think chris at least how long um our best guess um city manager is about three weeks we'd need about three weeks to work through this ordinance and basically walk it over into how the city is construct how the city organization works and we would have to put some some substance into some of the provisions of the ordinance but the city attorney believes it would take three weeks okay thank you mayor again i'm going to reiterate don't bank on the courts of overturning this that argument's not going to fly considering the history of the city of phoenix once it passes it passes and it'll be enacted so you're going to have three weeks to work on this thing to try to convince people that it doesn't work thank you mayor thank you councilwomans thank you um you know i maybe we were at a stalemate as to what to do next but i know i have asked for a process where we include all the stakeholders and make sure we involve the public that's what we do when we generally adopt an ordinance i know when i was a planning director and i know it still continues when we did text amendments we made sure we'd take them to the villages that we got input from various public members and stakeholders and i really want to see that process i want to make sure we're vetting it in hearing what everyone has to say you know i again there i can think of a lot of other times when we had a process i know we were working on the homelessness plan and i council was concerned that we hadn't gotten enough input from the public so we stopped stopped what we were doing and went back out and had a series of meetings and all the districts time and time again one of the things that's made the city of phoenix so great is that we do involve people we do involve the public so i i really i want to see that happen before we see an ordinance written thank you mayor thank you councilwoman i'm sorry thank you mayor um i have a i'm not sure if it's a question or a comment but i just um building off of this uh of councilman stark's comment about wanting a stakeholder process and then hearing from chris that it would take about three weeks to get any sort of draft ordinance here um i guess i'm just wondering if there's any way we can do both you know have you know have public meetings i recognize the value of that let people you know have a conversation about this um without letting us hold back you know at least beginning the process of drafting something so i'm not sure if that's a question or comment but i would hope that we can find a way um to do that thank you mayor councilman i'm sorry thank you i just want to clarify the city attorney's estimate of the time would take on the ordinance is exclusive of any public involvement so i just just to be straight up would have to be additional time to that three weeks because regardless they're gonna have to process the public input that they receive and you know create different uh ways of responding to that in how they write the ordinance so it all depends on how extensive a public process you want as to how long it will be but i think if you introduce public process it's going to extend the three-week estimate mayor councilwoman stark um just another thing i if we have this process i'd also like to explore other ways to help um the workers i know in flagstaff they're actually looking at a living wage and adopting something like that as opposed to prevailing wage because of the concerns of state law i think we need to do a little bit of that research as well because there might be other alternatives that we can help workers have a fair and living wage thank you thank you pastor that's very interesting councilwoman stark because i was told that flagstaff was looking at a prevailing wage so there's obviously some misinformation being said or told to us but regardless if it's a prevailing wage a living wage a construction worker wage it all it's it's all there and those all those things have been suggested to us i think at this moment in time right now we need to move the prevailing wage since we've been talking about this for three years and we are here today three years later there was uh several stakeholder meeting meetings held previously by uh the both of us and we still hear the same comments that we're hearing today in being proactive because this is a pro-business item and being proactive would be i would like to hear uh in public comment solutions uh to to to what's being presented um so uh i'm not really sure i believe there should be uh i think it should be written and then after that uh presented to the community and then we can uh hear the commas and determine how we're how we're going to move but i do not want to delay it councilwoman word auto thank you mayor um i also i mean i think i've said this um to several people in the past i'd be more than happy for us to do a minimum wage and a prevailing wage um as we have seen and as we keep continuing to hear um throughout throughout throughout the city throughout the state we in our in our state we don't have compatible wages um that we have a lot of workers that are underpaid and we're seeing it throughout and we were seeing it at our airport um where some of our concessionaires are not able to hire people back and we know that that because it's if i i am completely convinced it's because of wages um so i'd be more than happy for us to consider another conversation to talk about also passing a minimum wage but like councilwoman pastor said and this is a conversation that we've been having at least incitement on council it's something that we've um that we've been talking about um i think um everyone that spoke for the ordnance and against the ordinance already understands um what we're what we're asking for and i do believe that everyone has done their research i i think that you know we we definitely need to respect our construction workers and i think it's important for us to continue to move forward um i don't know chris it if there's a way where we can do um you know do you know do more meetings with folks and draft the ordinances at the same time um i i agree with with councilwoman i'm sorry but i also agree with councilwoman pastor that that process already happened i know that she's been a part of a couple of um stakeholder stakeholder meetings and i think we we know what the two sides are saying and i think it's but i do think that it's time to draft something put something together and then um so that at least we can see okay this is what we're gonna pass and continue to move forward and let's not confuse um right to work um to worker rights i i definitely believe that workers deserve um a prevailing wage through throughout the the state of arizona and it's something that that as others have mentioned have mentioned we've done it we're doing it throughout the country and people live better lives because of it and i think um we owe it we owe it to these workers um to be able to move forward with this thank you mayor thank you um who was that vice mayor garcia okay thank you vice mayor next and then councilman i'm sorry thank you mayor i don't think stakeholder we've had stakeholder meetings like others have said we've been waiting on this for for two years this isn't a matter of um of the details or anything of that sort people understand pervading wage people understand davids they can act any one that's ever worked on a federal contract it's you it's it's as simple as whether you support the workers or not and it doesn't have to do with details or stakeholders or anything at all we either believe that city of phoenix contracts should come with the prevailing wage or we don't and so i think it's it's time for us to move forward on this and it's time for us to be clear and instead of pretending that we need stakeholder meetings or we need other conversations we let the public know whether we agree with the city having a paradigm wage or not and folks uh know where each of us stand i do agree that in the next three weeks as if this moves forward um as staff is working on it if there's concerns with the actual ordinance itself um that we should allow folks to give us input and then the final thing i would say is that we cannot do our work or be worried or afraid of the state suing us or anyone else suing us for us to move policy forward we should do what's right for the residents of phoenix we should do what's right for the workers of phoenix and move forward the preventing wage thank you councilwoman i'm sorry uh thank you i was just going to ask um chris and ed again uh whether you know obviously folks are able to rally very quickly um for this meeting so the stakeholders that are interested in this are able to come together very quickly so i'm just wondering um if we're able to hold some public meetings within the same three week time frame uh while you draft the ordinance if directed that way so i part of it is you know at what point do you would you like the public input so there's public input about the concept to inform the count the the drafters in the um city attorney's office however the way i see what his hat what this item is is you're you're voting on this framework of an ordinance that was attached so i think what would happen would be that the city attorney's office would need to take that framework and put it into what a city ordinance would do with that language then i believe you would want to take that and have comment on it by stakeholders so it's going to take them those three weeks to get the ordinance drafted and put together properly make sure they've got all the legal issues vetted and then again you just tell us how much time would you like us to spend on public input and i think that would be basically additive to the three weeks i mean they're they're gonna they're gonna work at it but i just don't want to promise it that it's three weeks and then that there would have been time for significant public input into it in that time but we will follow the direction of time that you give us and get as much public input as we can in that time period we just couldn't promise how robust it would be if confined to that three-week period thank you any additional oh sorry councilwoman passport uh yes i i don't think the ordinance is new and the language is new it's all following the federal government everybody knows what it is it's black and white it's very simple [Music] so i will there's obviously attached ordnance already staff knows that it's there so for me it's just drafting that ordinance and then maybe once it's dropped then people have the ability to make comments mayor councilwoman stark i again i want to also look at some type of living living wage ordinance as well and that might take some additional time and i would like to hear comments from stakeholders regarding that as well because i think that is a good alternative um and i think that deserves some discussion it it it really could possibly work for us thank you mayor councilwoman cordado thank you mayor um councilwoman stark absolutely i'd be delighted to work with you on what a minimum wage ordinance would look like um for workers in in the in the city of phoenix i i would definitely would love my staff to reach out to your office and i'm sure there's other council members that would jump on on board with that and how we can also make make that happen and have stakeholder meetings about how people feel about minim minimum wage but definitely would love to have those two um conversations separately but yeah definitely i would definitely 100 support us looking at what a minimum wage would look like for people in the city of phoenix there that's a woman stock so you know i had an opportunity to talk to some developers that do affordable housing and they are really concerned about prevailing wage because of all the time it takes for paperwork and such and i asked several what do you think about a living wage and they said they were open to it and so that's why i think we need to pursue both avenues and i think it's going to take more than three weeks thanks mayor thank you any additional council member comments all right roll call i'm sorry yes decisio dark wearing no garcia yes there you go i'd like to explain my vote i believe workers in our city need to be paired paid a fair and livable wage i've worked hard during my time in public life to improve working conditions in our city when i supported the motion to look into how we can improve life and work conditions and pay for our construction workforce i was very clear that a stakeholder process was important to me after i made that vote and that comment a lobbyist reached out to me that lobbyist was not in favor of a stakeholder process and said we just should have the vote we have the votes the lobbyist a few weeks later sent me language that is substantively similar to the language attached to this council item i cannot condone that type of a process it's important to have public comment we want to develop a policy that is legal in the state of arizona and that reflects a robust public stakeholder process for that reason i vote no fails four to five that is our final agenda's item for today we do have members of the public to address the council i will turn to our city attorney to introduce that item i apologize mayor during citizen comment members of the public may address the city council for up to three minutes on issues of interest or concern to them the arizona open meeting law permits the city council to listen to the comments but prohibits council members from discussing or acting on the matters presented our first speaker is steve brulin followed by uh lucia uh ailman steve are you on the line eric council mayor council my name is steve berlin i'm the president of the united states firefighters association i just wanted to comment on behalf of the uh over 1500 members of our organization and our city manager ed zuercher and the outstanding job he did when he took that possession in 2013. we are in an economic crisis and we were very fearful of having firefighters to have to pack up their lockers lose their jobs because of the budget crisis we're in and uh with with city manager zerker's leadership we're able to get through that time a horrible time in our organization's history without losing a single firefighter and from then on behind his leadership the phoenix fire department became even better and i just wanted to recognize city manager zurker for the fine job he's done the outstanding leadership he's provided the friendships he's built um leading by example and what a phenomenal husband he must be and father that i know he is and congratulations on your career ed um you deserve everything good that comes your way and on behalf of all the firefighters and paramedics from phoenix thank you for your service thank you steve that's that means a lot coming from you thank you so much our next speaker is mark reich's followed by lucia ailman mark are you on the line yes and we can hear you and you may proceed great thank you mayor gallegos and city council members i am a homeowner in the north phoenix area specifically moon valley where i've lived for the last 30 years and i speak as a concerned citizen and homeowner today as well as the proxy for other homeowners especially the elderly and children and business owners in the community that i live in we have a growing concern with the homeless that have infested the area here our understanding is there's been a shelter closed in the downtown phoenix area 500 homeless into the city and with the homeless what we've encountered just in the last few weeks has been public drinking drugs nudity solicitation on nearly every street corner vagrancy break-ins in our own areas trespassing in our backyards to sleep and also to use our hoses to take showers fires underneath city streets just within the last week we've had two thefts trash along the streets trash in the washes trash along the corners illegal parking at businesses and also inside our communities and we're very concerned about this uh in addition to that it's creating a trash issue where our washes are now looking like landfills uh they're unmaintained the streets in the north phoenix area specifically moon valley do not look like they're maintained with liquor bottles along the side and trash laying alongside the roads the trees and the wash areas are not maintained it creates a canopy effect for the homeless to sleep underneath and when they do that they put trash on the corners when they solicit then they put trash in the washes where they sleep excuse me and uh so i i guess i look to you for your help and guidance into maintaining the streets keeping up the wash areas the communities uh leading into the moon valley area uh when i look now at the motel six at bell road being an area that houses the homeless uh i'm concerned that we can't take care of the homeless in our own community but yet we're the second leading state bringing in 3 500 refugees into the state and uh so i i see the refugees coming in as further uh worsening the situation of the homeless so i'd ask that you can work to stop the solicitation on the corners support the shelters keep the homeless away from the children and elderly that's created the fear in our own areas and it's affecting our property values thank you very much for listening uh mayor mark this is ed the city manager i will have a member of my staff call you to follow up and make sure we have specific locations that you're identifying into our system that we can follow up on those if i may i we will also follow up we have been getting some calls in that general area and i believe i know the wash he's speaking of thank you thank you councilwoman our next speaker is lucia ailman followed by ari baron cooper lucia are you on the line lucia is not on the line our next speaker is re baron cooper followed by scott elliott matus ari are you on the line i am indeed can i be heard yes you can okay well good evening members of the phoenix city council my name is ari baron huber and i've worked for the last seven months for hms host at the phoenix sky harbor airport throughout the pandemic you know i personally struggled with paying bills with health insurance with you know even just getting the groceries i need and you know while i return to work earlier this year i am only working um you know while i'm only working 40 hours um i really haven't been uh you know one making the money i need to survive but two i've been doing it in a severely understaffed working environment um you know i urge the council to believe workers and not give wealthy airport concessionaires any more relief especially when workers like myself are just struggling to get by that money's not coming to us enough is enough the city needs to listen to the concessions workers who are at the airport every work shift i am an airport stakeholder too thanks for your time our next speaker is scott elliot matus followed by april hernandez scott are you on the line yep can you hear me yes we can and you may proceed hi my name is scott martial i work for hms host at the airport for starbucks and i work for part of the pandemic then was four levels and came back earlier this year make working about anywhere between 35 to 40 hours and it's just been really hard with the understaffing and it just seems like each of myself purposely understaffed us during shifts which is also kind of hard for the like for other employees but also being facing the same thing because we have rent rentals up so as utilities and bills and food is going up on urge city council to stop getting on like rent relief and because there's none of it's helping us or going towards the workers if anything it's just not they're just making it worse because they feel like they can get away with this thank you for your time our next speaker is april hernandez followed by rosa hernandez april are you on the line yes can you guys hear me yes we can and you may proceed good evening members of the phoenix city council my name is april hernandez and i have been working with hms host for four years now throughout the pandemic my family and i have struggled a lot my husband lost his job due to my my son being hospitalized so we couldn't work for a short time we recently just lost our food stamps so you know we have to pay for our own food as well well i while i i've been working throughout the whole pandemic but it was only about maybe 15 hours a week i would get in um when the airport started picking up we were severely understaffed we still are severely understaffed we actually close my store in terminal 3 very early when we don't have coverage at the end of by the time we're supposed to close by maybe 1 or 12 30 we end up closing at 11 sometimes i'm left alone sometimes you know they i do mostly all of the tasks i do um a job you know a three-person job it's very hard um so this this impacts me a lot mentally just because it uh it really does it's too much work and we deal with a lot especially with customers being very upset that the time the drinks are taking too long so it's taking too long um so i i think enough is enough the city needs to listen to the concessionaire workers who are at the airport every every work shift and i am a airport stakeholder as well and thank you for your time our next speaker is rosa hernandez followed by vivian lavery rosa are you on the line rosa is not on the line our next speaker is vivian lavely followed by lupe raccoon vivian are you on the line vivian is not on the line our next speaker is lupe raccoon followed by natalia soreno lupe are you on the line lupe is not on the line our next speaker is natalia serrano followed by victoria stahl natalia are you on the line natalya is not on the line our next speaker is victoria stahl followed by uh tony a sullivan victoria are you on the line victoria is not on the line our next speaker is tony a sullivan followed by ty tatum uh tony are you on one uh miss sullivan is not online our next speaker is ty tatum followed by beatrice uh toppa uh tai are you on the line yes i am good goody good evening members of phoenix city council my name is tyshon tatum and i've worked at barrios for hms hosts at phoenix sky harbor airport throughout the pandemic my family has struggled with financial situations bills and medical problems well i returned to work early this year i'm only working like anywhere from like 30 to 35 hours or i've yet to return to work and i've been laid off for some months now for my last job and well yeah i just think everybody needs to be heard and problems need to be victim like that and that's it our next speaker is beatrice to pita followed by matteo vargas beatrice are you on the line beatrice is not online our next speaker is matteo vargas matteo are you on the line yes i am can you hear me yes we can and you may proceed hi my name is matteo vargas i am a starbucks barista terminal 3 for hms host where i've worked for the past three months our treatment here at hms host is beyond it's their own proper handle we are abuse we are under staff we are overworked we're yelled at by management we're not given the proper supplies that we need to work management purposely understaffs us claiming that they're excuses that we can only fit four people into our store while they overstaff other stores that are their priorities for money making hms hosts have not paid their rent at sky harbor yet through this through the city's rent relief hms house is not paying their rent yet they are not giving any of this money to the workers they're not putting any of this money into the store we do not have working ovens our espresso machines are down we're short staffed to the point that we have lines where customers are waiting over 30 40 minutes just to get a cup of coffee that's where one of the only source opens at the time at 4 30 in the morning at sky harbor enough is enough i need the city council to stand with hms host workers and stop providing concessioneers like hms hosts rent relief when they're it is doing nothing but putting more money in the pockets of corporations thank you for your time mayor that was our final speaker thank you so much thank you to all we are adjourned you