ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET AT KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL AND 4.4 IS THE RESOLUTION RELATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL. AND SO THOSE ARE HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES THIS EVENING UNDER OUR ORGANIZATION OR BUSINESS ITEM 5.1 IS A DISCUSSION ABOUT LEVERAGING OUR DEBT FOR OUR ESSENTIAL CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ON THE ON THE DOCKET. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SOLID WASTE RATE STUDY PRESENTATION AND THEN RECOMMENDATIONS FOR OUR 2024 BLOOMING ARTS PARTNERSHIPS GRANTS AWARDS AND I DON'T THINK I MADE THE OFFICIAL AGENDA BUT I AM 5.4 I WILL WRAP UP AS WE ALWAYS DO OUT IN 5.4 AS OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE. I DON'T THINK IT WAS ON THE PUBLISHED AGENDA. I DON'T THINK IT'S ON LINE BUT I WILL ADD THAT IN SO WE'LL OFFICIALLY CHANGE THE AGENDA TO INCLUDE THAT AS WELL. SO THAT IS OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING. COUNCIL ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES OR ADDITIONS TO OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING? WITH THAT I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING. SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. FIRST UP ON OUR AGENDA ITEM 2.1 IS OUR INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES AND I THINK WE GOT A NUMBER OF NEW EMPLOYEES THIS WEEK ARE ON MY LIST. I'VE GOT OUR CFO LORI ECONOMY SHULER KICKING US OFF INTRODUCING HER NEW STAFF MEMBERS IN FINANCE DEPARTMENT . GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. CLEVELAND MAYOR. SO FIRST UP IS SAMARRA TO ASSURE ME THAT WASN'T TOO SHABBY AND JUST SAMARRA AND HER HUSBAND MOVED TO THE UNITED STATES 26 YEARS AGO AND THEY HAVE LIVED IN MINNESOTA SINCE. THEY HAVE A SON WHO LIVES IN WASHINGTON D.C. AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY MEMBERS OR CURRENTLY RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON AND ENJOY OUR GREAT CITY. HER BACKGROUND HAS ALWAYS INCLUDED CUSTOMER SERVICE AMONG OTHER THINGS AND RECENTLY AT HER PREVIOUS POSITION AS A DISABILITY EXAMINER FOR THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. IN HER FREE TIME SHE LIKES TO COOK , READ GARDEN, DECORATE AND SHE LOVES NATURE AND ALWAYS FINDS TIME FOR A WALK EVEN IN THE WINTER TO SOME. GOOD EVENING WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR COMING AND JOINING US AND THANK YOU FOR WELCOME TO BLOOMINGTON. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AS YOU LIVE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. BUT WELCOME TO THE CITY CAPITAL C OF BLOOMINGTON. WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE AND WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON OUR FINANCE TEAM. WELCOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEN WE HAVE MAT AS MEDICINE AND MAT JOINED FINANCE IN SEPTEMBER AS A CUSTOMER SERVICE CUSTOMER BILLING SPECIALISTS FOR OUR COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS. HE GREW UP IN ADAMS, MINNESOTA AND AFTER COMPLETING HIS UNDERGRADUATE DEGREE HE BEGAN WORKING AS A BOOKKEEPER IN HIS FATHER'S BUSINESS WHILE COMPLETING HIS MASTER'S DEGREE AT MANKATO WHEN HIS DAD DECIDED TO RETIRE, MATT MOVED TO THE METRO AREA AND BEGAN WORKING FOR GOPHER STATE ONE AND THEN AFTER THAT HE WORKED FOR CURRIE INSURANCE AND HE IS A FORMER RESIDENT OF BLOOMINGTON AND HE NOW LIVES IN HOPKINS AND IN HIS FREE TIME HE ENJOYS GOLF WRITING, SPACE COACHING, GOING TO CONCERTS HE'S AFTER HE IS OUT ALSO AN ACTIVE VOLUNTEER DONATING DONATING BLOOD AND PLATELETS HELPING OUT DURING CONCERTS AND EVENTS AT THE CEDAR CULTURAL CENTER AND WORKING TO SERVE MEALS FOR LOAVES AND FISHES AND CENTRAL LUTHERAN CHURCH. WELCOME MAT. WELCOME MAT THANK YOU. GLAD TO HAVE YOU. I CAN HONESTLY SAY I'VE BEEN TO A LOT OF MINNESOTA CITIES. I DON'T THINK I'VE BEEN TO. ADAMS WHERE DOES IT? ADAMS MINNESOTA AND HOW BIG IS IT? ADAMS IS A TOWN OF 800. IT'S NEAR ROCHESTER, AUSTIN THAT AREA SOUTHEAST MINNESOTA. SO YOU'RE GOOD. WELL WELCOME. GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD AND WELCOME TO OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MUCH. NEXT ON MY LIST, MR. FAROOQI NO. RATHER THAN COMING DOWN, I'M JUST GOING TO INVITE CAITLIN TO GO UP TO THE PODIUM AND AS CAITLIN GOES UP THERE, CAITLIN DANIEL ZACH IS OUR NEW ADMINISTRATIVE INTERN IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE COMES TO US MOST RECENTLY FROM THE LIGAMENT SORT OF CITIES WHERE SHE HAD A STINT AS WELL AND WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO HER BEING WITH US FOR THE NEXT YEAR. SO CAITLIN WILL INVITE YOU TO SHARE MORE ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL JOURNEY THAT BROUGHT YOU HERE . THANK YOU. YEAH. AS JAMIE SAID, I'LL GO. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND INTERNSHIPS AS AN UNDERGRAD AND BOTH OF MY GRADUATE DEGREE NOW AND SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE IN BLOOMINGTON AND EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY STANDS FOR AND SPECIFICALLY WORKING WITH THE FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN SO WELL WELCOME BOARD. VERY GLAD TO HAVE YOU. WHERE ARE YOU WORKING ON YOUR MASTERS AT THE U OF M ABOUT FREE SCHOOL. I'M VERY GOOD LOOKING SO WELL WELCOME ABOARD. THANK YOU. AND OUR FINAL BIT OF INTRODUCTIONS THIS EVENING DIANE KIRBY HAS A NUMBER OF FOLKS YOU FOLKS IN PUBLIC HEALTH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. IT IS MY PLEASURE TO WELCOME FIVE NEW MEMBERS OF OUR PUBLIC HEALTH DIVISION AND WE'LL START WITH ALISHA UGARTE DEL RIO AS OUR NEW COMMUNITY HEALTH SERVICES MANAGER IN PUBLIC HEALTH ALICIA OVERSEES THE FAMILY HEALTH VIC DISEASE PREVENTION AND CONTROL AND COMMUNITY RESOURCE TEAMS. ALISHA BRINGS EIGHT YEARS OF LOCAL PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERIENCE FROM THE FRONT LINES AND ORGANIZATIONAL LEADERSHIP LEVELS. SHE HOLDS A DOCTOR OF NURSING PRACTICE DEGREE FROM SAINT CATHERINE UNIVERSITY AND A MASTER OF SCIENCE IN NURSING EDUCATION FROM BETHEL UNIVERSITY, A BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT ALICIA HAS COME FULL CIRCLE IN HER CAREER. SHE FELL IN LOVE WITH THE PUBLIC HEALTH AREA WHEN SHE WAS PLACED WITH THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AS A BACCALAUREATE NURSING STUDENT FOR HER COMMUNITY CLINICAL AND SHE SAYS SHE IS HONORED TO RETURN TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON NINE YEARS LATER AS A PUBLIC HEALTH LEADER, PLEASE WELCOME ALISHA THANK YOU SO MUCH. I AM JUST SO HONORED AND EXCITED TO BE HERE AS A BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT AND THIS IS THE PLACE, LIKE I SAID WHERE I FELL IN LOVE WITH PUBLIC HEALTH. SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE. THANK YOU. WELCOME. GLAD TO HAVE YOU. THANKS TEACHER TRISHA BRATCHER I STARTED LAST MONTH IN THE NEWLY CREATED POSITION OF PUBLIC HEALTH SUPERVISOR FOR SUBSTANCE ABUSE PREVENTION WELLBEING AND POLICY WITH NINE YEARS OF DEDICATED ADVOCACY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TRISHA BRINGS A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE AND PASSION TO HER WORK. HER EXPERTIZE SPANS AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVOCACY, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERSHIP CONSULTING AND A DEEPLY PERSONAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE CHALLENGES FACED BY LOVED ONES DEALING WITH OPIOID ADDICTION AND TRAUMA. TISSUE IS NOT ONLY A DEDICATED MOTHER BUT A COMMITTED COMMUNITY BUILDER AND AN ADVOCATE FOR EQUITY THROUGH HOLISTIC TRAUMA. INFORMED CARE TEACHES MULTIFACETED BACKGROUND AND LIVED EXPERIENCES HAS UNIQUELY POSITIONED HER AS A COMPASSIONATE AND EFFECTIVE ADVOCATE AND LEADER. PLEASE WELCOME TASHA. WELCOME TASHA. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE. THANK YOU. WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD. WELCOME, JENN. JENNIFER RIFLES IS THE DISEASE PREVENTION AND CONTROL SUPERVISOR IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH DIVISION. SHE OVERSEES A TEAM OF PUBLIC HEALTH NURSES WHO PROVIDE DIRECT SERVICES TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS. JENN HAS WORKED IN LOCAL PUBLIC HEALTH FOR MORE THAN TEN YEARS PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON INFECTIOUS DISEASE PREVENTION AND CONTROL AND EMPLOYEE HEALTH AND SAFETY. JEN HOLDS A MASTER OF NURSING DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA AND SHE IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON A MASTER OF PUBLIC HEALTH IN OCCUPATIONAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH NURSING ALSO AT THE U OF M PLEASE WELCOME JEN THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME. WELCOME JEN. NATALIE NATALIE GOMEZ IS A PEER BREASTFEEDING COUNSELOR IN PUBLIC HEALTH. AS A MOM OF THREE SHE IS HAPPY TO SHARE HER EXPERIENCES WITH OTHERS. NATALIE WAS A TEEN MOM AND WENT BACK TO GET HER HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA AFTER PREGNANCY WAS BUT WAS NOT ABLE TO CONTINUE HER EDUCATION. NOW SHE IS LOOKING FORWARD TO HELPING OTHER MOMS ON THE SAME JOURNEY KNOW ALL ABOUT THE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES IN STORE FOR THEM WHILE STILL CARING FOR THEIR BABIES. NATALIE LIVES IN BLOOMINGTON AND IS EXCITED TO HELP GUIDE ALL THE MOMS THAT SHE'S WORKING WITH WITH AS MUCH KNOWLEDGE AS POSSIBLE SOMETHING SHE SAYS SHE WISHED SHE COULD HAVE HAD DURING HER PREGNANCY. PLEASE WELCOME NATALIE GOMEZ. THANK YOU. I'M SO EXCITED TO BE HERE AND JUST JOIN EVERYBODY. THANKS. GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD. WELCOME. AND FINALLY WE HAVE ANOTHER BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT DAISY MOLINA. DAISY IS ALSO A PEER WITH PEER BREASTFEEDING COUNSELOR. SHE'S A MOM TO A 16 MONTH OLD AND SHE IS EXPECTING HER SECOND BABY IN SEPTEMBER BEFORE HER PREGNANCY. DAISY ENROLLED IN A COMMUNITY COLLEGE TO PURSUE NURSING AND SHE WAS ONLY ABLE TO ATTEND ONE SEMESTER BEFORE GIVING BIRTH TO HER FIRST CHILD AS A TEEN MOM, DAISY WAS GRATEFUL FOR THE HELP AND SUPPORT SHE RECEIVED FROM WORK AND HER FAMILY MEMBERS DURING HER MOTHERHOOD JOURNEY. DAISY AGAIN LIVES IN BLOOMINGTON. SHE'S HAPPY TO HELP OTHER MOMS AS BEST SHE CAN WITH HER OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. PLEASE WELCOME DAISY MOLINA HI. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. WELCOME DAISY. GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DIANE AND WELCOME TO EVERYBODY. I'M SO IMPRESSED THAT ALL OF YOU ARE COUNCIL WITH THE THE EXPERIENCE AND THE QUALIFICATIONS AND THE TALENT. THESE ARE ALL THE FOLKS THAT WE HEARD FROM BRING TO THE BLOOMINGTON CITY STAFF AND IT SAYS A LOT I THINK ABOUT THEM CERTAINLY AND BUT THEIR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND THE RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON. SO WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US THIS EVENING. THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING BLOOMINGTON IN A LOT OF WAYS YOU'RE THE FACE OF BLOOMINGTON NOW WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT YOU'RE GOING TO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE YOU AND THINK BLOOMINGTON. SO THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT AND WELCOME ABOARD SO ADAM 2.2 ON OUR AGENDA IS A SWEARING IN OF OUR GROWTH THROUGH OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS AND DEPUTY CHIEF BINNIE IS GOING TO KICK THIS OFF FOR US. GOOD EVENING DC WELCOME. THANK YOU. I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE ONE OF OUR OFFICERS OFFICER DANIELS KIND OF COME UP GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF HIS IDEAS WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO KIND OF BRING THIS THING FORWARD. SO I KIND OF FIGURED IF THERE WAS A MICROPHONE AND DES WAS HERE, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM IF WE WERE GOING TO HEAR FROM DENNIS BETTER THAN I KNOW SO AND THEN I'D BE TALKING AT ALL TODAY BUT GROWTH THROUGH OPPORTUNITY WE CONNECTED WITH EMPOWER INCLUSION. I ACTUALLY WENT TO A TRAINING AND HEARD ALEX AND PAUL TALK AT THE TRAINING AND THEIR EMPOWER INCLUSION AND WHAT IT IS IS IT'S A PROGRAM WHERE GAGE AND JOHNNY ARE GOING TO INTERN THROUGH THE CITY. THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO AROUND FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COMMUNICATION, EMS, THE MALL OF AMERICA IS PARTNERING WITH US AND IT'S A 11 WEEK OR TEN WEEK PROGRAM WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE INTERNING ON MONDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS ARE TOMORROW THEY GET TO GO TO COPS AND CONS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO AND THEY'RE JUST GOING TO GET JOB OPPORTUNITY AND LEARN NEW THINGS, BUILD THEIR RESUMES AND YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE A FANTASTIC PROGRAM AND SO MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER IS PART OF THAT. ANYBODY THAT COMES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HIM TAKE AN OATH AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO ASK BOTH OF THEM TO STEP UP AND TAKE THIS HOLD FOR US. SO PLEASE, GENTLEMEN, STEP UP HERE. PLEASE. ARE THEY COMING UP HERE WHERE THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY GET A CHANCE TO GET PICTURES AND GET SOME PICTURES? ACTUALLY IF YOU'RE TAKING PICTURES DO NOT BE SHY. WERE NEVER SHY DURING SWEARING IN SO COME ON UP IF YOU WANT TO COME RIGHT IN FRONT OF US HERE YOU CAN COME WHEREVER YOU NEED TO GET TO GET A GOOD PICTURE. PLEASE DON'T BE SHY. IT'S A YOU GUYS YOU GUYS CAN FACE THIS WAY SO THEN YOU GUYS CAN TAKE THE PICTURES THAT WORK AND WORK. ALL RIGHT, I'LL WAIT TO YOU GET SET UP, YO KNOW, READY FOR THAT ALL RIGHT, GENTLEN, RAISE A HAND PLEASE FOR MILK AND JUST REPEAT AFTER ME. HI, JOHNNY JENSEN. I AM JOHNNY J. I GAGE PERRYMAN. GAGE DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITU TION OF THE UNITED STATES ACROSS THE NATION IN THE UNITED STATES IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. STATE OF MINNESOTA AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE AND DISCHARGE THE DUTIES AS A GROWTH AND GROWTH THROUGH OPPORTUNITY AN INTERN FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON FOR THE CITY OF MINNESOTA TO THE BEST OF THE BEST OF MY JUDGMENT AND ABILITY JUDGMENT NO I FEEL GREAT. WELCOME . YEAH. YOU SHOULD GET IN THERE TO SO NOW GAGE AND JOHNNY THE TRADITION IS AFTER YOU'RE SWORN IN YOU HAVE TO COME AND BE GREETED BY ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO IF YOU WANT TO COME OVER HERE AND SAY HELLO, IT'S NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE SO YOU AS A TEACHER WELCOME. YES. GOOD TO SEE YOU. VERY NICE TO MEET YOU AS WELL. NICE TO MEET OH, CONGRATULATIONS GAGE AND JOHNNY AND THANK YOU, OFFICER. THERE'S FOR FOR BEING THE THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THIS I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING OUR CONTINUED PARTICIPATION HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. WELL DONE. THANK YOU SO LONG COUNCIL IN 2.3 ON OUR AGENDA IS A PROCLAMATION FOR PRIDE MONTH SO I'M GOING TO HEAD DOWN TO THE PODIUM AND OFFER OUR PROCLAMATION THE WAY WE DO THIS SO THE WAY WE DO OUR PROCLAMATIONS WE USUALLY HAVE PEOPLE HERE READY TO ACCEPT THEM AND WE ASK YOU TO COME IN COME IN BEHIND US. WHERE DID COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO WANTED TO BE PART OF THIS AS WELL? GLAD YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT. THIS IS OUR PROCLAMATION FOR PRIDE MONTH JUNE FIRST THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2024 WHEREAS THE MONTH OF JUNE 2024 IS DESIGNATED AS PRIDE MONTH AND RECOGNIZES THE DISCRIMINATION AND VIOLENCE INDIVIDUALS WHO IDENTIFY AS LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL TRANSGENDER INTERSEX AND ASEXUAL LGB. Q I A PLUS ARE SUBJECTED TO AND RAISES UP AND PROMOTES SELF-AFFIRMATION DIGNITY, EQUAL RIGHTS AND INCREASES THE VISIBILITY OF THE LGBTQIA PLUS COMMUNITY. AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS COMMITTED TO BEING INCLUSIVE, EQUITABLE AND WELCOMING OF ALL INDIVIDUALS ALONG THE NATURAL SPECTRUM OF HUMAN IDENTITY AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND RECOGNIZES THAT WE ARE A DIVERSE COMMUNITY ENRICHED BY THIS DIVERSITY INCLUDING THE CONTRIBUTIONS THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY HAS MADE AND CONTINUES TO MAKE. AND. WHEREAS THE LGBTQ PLUS RIGHTS MOVEMENT CONTINUES TO THIS DAY AND WHILE THERE HAS BEEN REMARKABLE PROGRESS TOWARDS ACCEPTANCE AND EQUALITY IN RECENT YEARS, MEMBERS OF THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES AND AROUND THE WORLD STILL FACE AN UNACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF DISCRIMINATION AND VIOLENCE. SO WE MUST REMAIN VIGILANT AND PUSH BACK AGAINST THOSE WHO SEEK TO ROLLBACK OUR PROGRESS NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT I TIM BUCKLEY, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 2024 AS PRIDE MONTH AND CALL UPON THE PEOPLE OF BLOOMINGTON TO TURN BACK DISCRIMINATION AND PREJUDICE EVERYWHERE IT EXISTS AND COMMEMORATE THE COURAGEOUS INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE FOUGHT AND CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR THE RIGHTS OF LGBTQ A-PLUS PEOPLE DATED THE THIRD DAY OF JUNE 2024. THIS IS AND I'M ALWAYS SO GLAD WHEN WE CAN DESIGNATE PRIDE MONTH AND ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO OUR PRIDE CELEBRATION WHICH I THINK IS COMING UP LATER THIS SUMMER BECAUSE IT'S JUST AS A CELEBRATION TO INCLUDE EVERYONE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AVAILABLE AND WELCOMING TO EVERYONE IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T SEE OFTEN ENOUGH IN TERMS OF OUR CITY CELEBRATIONS. I THINK SOME PEOPLE KIND OF PASS THEM OUT AND SAY THIS IS NOT FOR ME OR THIS IS NOT FOR OTHERS. OUR CELEBRATIONS ARE INDEED FOR EVERYONE AND I THINK THE PRIDE CELEBRATION WE SEE THAT EVERY YEAR I THINK PRIDE MONTH SHOWS THAT VERY CLEARLY EVERY YEAR AND CANNOT WAIT FOR THE CELEBRATION ONCE AGAIN THIS YEAR AND TO HAVE EVERYONE UP HERE NOW WHAT I GENERALLY DO IS TURN OVER THE MICROPHONE WHOEVER WOULD LIKE AND I KNOW I'M GOING TO START LETTING YOU . THANK YOU, MAYOR. IF YOU SEE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS I AM JEAN DE MARKOVICH, THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEW BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND I'M JOINED BY OUR OTHER DIRECTORS ON BEHALF OF OUR DEDICATED VOLUNTEER TEAM. I AM HONORED TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING JUNE 2024 AS LGBTQ I A8+ PRIDE MONTH THIS DECLARATION IS A POWERFUL AFFIRMATION OF OUR CITY'S COMMITMENT TO INCLUSIVITY, DIVERSITY AND EQUALITY. BLOOMINGTON IS A CITY ENRICHED BY ITS DIVERSITY. OUR STRENGTH LIES IN OUR ABILITY TO EMBRACE AND CELEBRATE THE UNIQUE CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR RESIDENTS THE LGBTQ A-PLUS COMMUNITY HAS PLAYED AN INTEGRAL ROLE IN SHAPING OUR CITY'S CULTURAL AND SOCIAL FABRIC FROM ACTIVISTS AND ARTISTS TO EDUCATORS AND ENTREPRENEURS. THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS CONTRIBUTE TO MAKE BLOOMINGTON A VIBRANT AND DYNAMIC PLACE TO LIVE. HOWEVER, AS THE PROCLAMATION RIGHTLY POINTS OUT, THE FIGHT FOR LGBTQ A-PLUS RIGHTS IS FAR FROM OVER DESPITE REMARKABLE PROGRESS, DISCRIMINATION AND VIOLENCE PERSIST BOTH HERE IN THE UNITED STATES AND AROUND THE WORLD. IT IS OUR COLLECTIVE RESPONSIBILITY TO REMAIN VIGILANT AND TO STAND AGAINST ANY EFFORTS TO ROLL BACK THE GAINS WE HAVE MADE. WE MUST CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR EQUALITY AND JUSTICE ENSURING THAT EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF THEIR IDENTITY ORIENTATION CAN LIVE OPENLY AND AUTHENTICALLY WITHOUT FEAR . SO THIS MONTH WE COME TOGETHER TO CELEBRATE. LET US ALSO REMEMBER THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE US AND FOUGHT TIRELESSLY FOR THE RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS THAT WE ENJOY TODAY. LET US HONOR THEIR LEGACY BY CONTINUING THEIR WORK AND STRIVING TO CREATE A FUTURE WHERE LOVE, RESPECT AND ACCEPTANCE PREVAIL. IN CLOSING, I WANT TO THANK MAYOR MAYOR PUCCI, THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS AND INVITE EVERYONE TO OUR ANNUAL BLOOMINGTON PRIDE EVENT WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE LATER THIS YEAR OUTSIDE OF CIVIC PLAZA. THANK YOU . MY POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YES, I LOVE ALL THE FOLKS HERE. I YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO SAY WHEN YOU LOOK UP THE WORD PRIDE IN THE DICTIONARY OR YOU LOOK UP THE WORD SHAME IN THE DICTIONARY, YOU WILL FIND THEM AS ANTONYMS OF EACH OTHER. AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHY WE CALL IT PRIDE, IT'S BECAUSE WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO DO TO COMMUNITIES IS SHAME US INTO GOING BACK INTO OUR CLOSETS WHERE WE DON'T MAKE YOU UNCOMFORTABLE. I WILL NEVER DO THAT. I AM SUPPORTIVE OF ALL THESE FOLKS WHO DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AND I REALLY, REALLY JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU THIS MONTH AND EVERY DAY FRANKLY BUT THIS MONTH ESPECIALLY TO LOOK DEEP DEEP IN YOUR HEART AND FIGURE OUT IF IT'S A STRUGGLE FOR YOU, HOW YOU CAN TALK TO ME AS YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER OR TALK TO SOMEONE ELSE WHO HAS BEEN WILLING TO PUT THEMSELVES OUT THERE IN OUR COMMUNITY AS A MEMBER OF THIS FAMILY AND TO SAY WHAT DO I WHAT CAN I BE DOING TO MAKE THIS PLACE EASIER FOR EVERYONE TO FEEL LOVE, ACCEPTANCE AND RESPECT AND MY DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN FOR THAT. I HOPE YOU'LL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT IF IT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU AND IF YOU'RE ALREADY WITH US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU . WE'RE GOING TO HEAR OH, I'LL TAKE YOUR PICTURE. I'M GOING TO TAKE SAY SOMETHING HERE SO YOU CAN TELL ME MORE PROPERLY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO SQUEEZE IN SO BEAUTIFUL. OKAY. NOW THEY GIVE YOU COUNSEL. NEXT UP ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR CONSENT BUSINESS AND COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AS OUR CONSENT BUSINESS THIS EVENING COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN THANK YOU. MAYOR IS THERE ANY FINAL HOLD SEEING NONE OUR JUST HOLD 3.1 AND THEN MOVE 3.2 THROUGH 3.22 SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCILMEMBER ILLUMINATE AND 3.1 MAYOR THE FIRST ITEM HERE OR THE ONLY ITEM ON THE AGENDA HERE FOR CONSENT IS THE RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT DONATIONS AND WE HAD FOUR DIFFERENT DONATIONS AND I WANTED TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE EACH OF THOSE FOR DONATIONS THAT WERE GIVEN TO THE CITY. WE HAD A SHOW FROM THE MALL OF AMERICA. WE HAD 90 LUNCH BOXES FOR POLICE WEEK AND THEN WE HAD A DONATION OF SMALL EQUIPMENT FROM THE CHURCH OF THE NATIVITY OF MARY AND THEN WE ALSO HAD FROM LEGION POST 550 TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON TO DONATIONS WITH RESPECT TO A CONCESSIONS REFRIGERATOR. TWO OF THOSE AND THEN FINALLY WE HAD MONEY COMING FROM NORMAN DELL COMMUNITY COLLEGE FOR JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,000 AND WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL FOUR OF THOSE FOLKS AND THE PEOPLE THAT REPRESENT THOSE AREAS AND FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GIVE TO THE CITY. AND I KNOW THAT OUR CITY WILL ALWAYS SEND THANK YOU NOTES AND APPRECIATION AND THAT'S ALL MAYOR I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT WE ARE MOVED TO ACCEPT THE DONATIONS SO MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.1 ON OUR CONSENT BUSINESS DONATIONS NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN FOR HANDLING THE CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR ON OUR AGENDA OUR HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES AND ITEM 4.1 ON OUR AGENDA IS A PUBLIC HEARING THIS FOR THE VACATION OF PUBLIC DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENTS OVER AND ACROSS LOT THREE AND FOUR BLOCK ONE SIC HENNEPIN COUNTY, MINNESOTA JULIE LONG, CITY ENGINEER IS HERE TO FILL US IN . MR. MAYOR COUNCIL THIS ONE IS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND IN ADVANCE OF THE CONSTRUCTION THAT IS GOING ON FOR SIX WE'RE LOOKING TO VACATE THE EXISTING DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENTS SO THAT THEY CAN BE REPLANTED IN THE FUTURE. COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS OF MISS LONG ON THIS ONE AND I CAN ATTEST THE CONSTRUCTION IS UNDERWAY ATTIC SO TO SAY THEY ARE UNDERWAY NO QUESTIONS OF MS. LONG VERY GOOD THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.1 REGARDING REVOCATION OF PUBLIC DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENTS OVER AND ACROSS LOTS THREE AND FOUR BLOCK ONE SEC ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.1 THIS EVENING ANYONE DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE LINE LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS COUNCIL WE HAVE NO ONE ON THE PHONE. WE HAVE NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.1. SO MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.1. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSE MOTION CARRY SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS ON THIS? IF NOT I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ON THIS ONE HAPPY MOVE THAT MR. MEMBER DALLESSANDRO IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TWO MOTIONS. SO THE FIRST ONE OH NO. THAT WAS THE PUBLIC HEARING. SORRY MY BAD I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE APPROVING THE VACATION OF PUBLIC DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENTS OVER AND ACROSS LOTS THREE AND FOUR BLOCK ONE CITY HENNEPIN COUNTY, MINNESOTA SEE MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER MUIR TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE THERE IT IS. I LOST MY PLACE TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AS APPROVED APPROVING THE VACATION OF PUBLIC DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENTS. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES 709 AND 4.2 ON OUR AGENDA. THIS IS OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING THIS REGARDING HUNTER ELECTRIC AT 7900 CHICAGO AVENUE. THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT PLANNING VARIANCE AND WE HAVE DAKOTA IS IT CROW CROWELL IT IS CRUEL. CRUEL I MISS TWICE. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. IT'S ALL GOOD, MR. CROW. WELCOME. I THINK THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME IN FRONT OF US. IS IT NOT? IT IS. YES SIR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME MR. KODACHROME PLANNER IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND JUST WANT TO GIVE SOME QUICK HIGHLIGHTS TO THE ITEM RELATED TO HUNT ELECTRIC SO IT'S PLANNING HIS 2024 DASH 39 RELATED TO THE HUNT ELECTRIC SITE AT 7900 CHICAGO AVE SO JUST NORTH OF SMITH PARK THERE AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF AMERICAN BOULEVARD FROM WALMART AND SOME OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES AND HOTELS. SO THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE SITE. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LOADING AREA ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE THAT'S CURRENTLY GRAVEL THAT DOESN'T CURRENTLY MEET OUR CODE REQUIREMENTS AND SO HUNT ELECTRIC IS TRYING TO BRING THEIR SITE INTO FULL COMPLIANCE AND SO WITH THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE CONVERTING THAT GRAVEL AREA INTO ASPHALT AS WELL AS SOME LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING IMPROVEMENTS ON THEIR SITE. AND SO WITH THE SIZE AND KIND OF CHANGE FROM GRAVEL TO ASPHALT, IT ALSO DOES REQUIRE STORMWATER FACILITIES AND SO THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH XCEL ENERGY ON THE ADJACENT UTILITY CORRIDOR TO PURCHASE PART OF THAT CORRIDOR TO PROVIDE THOSE STORMWATER FACILITIES IN AND OUT LOT. AND SO THERE'S KIND OF THREE RELATED APPLICATIONS HERE YOU'LL SEE KIND OF THREE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THREE MOTIONS FOR A FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLAN A TYPE TWO PULMONARY AND FINAL PLAT AND THEN A PLANNING VARIANCE. SO THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED SITE PLAN. I'M AGAIN JUST SHOWING ON THE LOADING AREA THAT WOULD THAT'S CURRENTLY GRAVEL THAT WOULD BECOME ASPHALT. I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE HERE BUT IT WAS IN THE KIND OF STAFF REPORTS THEY ALSO HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN. THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING A NUMBER OF TREES AND SHRUBS ALONG CHICAGO AVE AND THIS JUST SHOWS THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE STORMWATER FACILITIES AS WELL AND THEN KIND OF UNDER THE PLAT AND PLANNING VARIANCE SIDE SO THE TYPE TWO PLAT WOULD COMBINE THE TWO LOTS FRONT ELECTRIC SO IT WOULD REMOVE THE EXISTING PROPERTY LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE BUILDING TO HELP CLEAN UP SOME ENTITLEMENTS AND THEN IN ADDITION IT WOULD ALSO CREATE AN OUT LOT AGAIN FOR THE STORMWATER FACILITIES. SO KIND OF ON THE IMAGE HERE ON THE ON THE RIGHT KIND OF THAT MAGENTA PINK BOXES THEY'RE THE KIND OF DESIGNATED OUT LOT AREA AND THEN THE PLANNING VARIANCE SO THAT COMES INTO PLAY I KNOW IT'S NOT ALL TOO COMMON THAT WE SEE PLANNING VARIANCES BUT UPON APPROVAL WOULD ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO ONLY SURVEY AND PLANT A PORTION OF AN EXISTING PARCEL SO THAT KIND OF BLUE LINE OUTLINES THAT EXISTING SIZE OF THE PARCEL. IT'S PART OF A UTILITY CORRIDOR THAT KIND OF RUNS THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE CITY AND SO JUST ALLOW THEM TO KIND OF PLANT AND SURVEY THAT THAT PORTION. I'LL JUST NOTE THAT A PLANNING VARIANCE DOES HAVE AN UNUSUAL HARDSHIP TEST THAT IT HAS TO MEET AND IN THE STAFF REPORT STAFF FOUND KIND OF THE UNUSUAL HARDSHIP HERE TO BE ABLE TO DESIGNATE JUST A PORTION OF A RELATIVELY LARGE PARCEL FOR FOR STORMWATER AND FACILITIES FELT KIND OF REASONS IT'S KIND OF OTHERWISE ON DEVELOPABLE LAND BECAUSE OF THE OVERHEAD TRANSMISSION LINES SO TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT FOR STORMWATER SEEM KIND OF LIKE A REASONABLE AND CREATIVE WAY TO USE SOME OF THAT ADJACENT LAND . ONE CONDITION I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT IN THE STAFF REPORT IS THERE THERE IS AN EXISTING SIDEWALK IN THE UTILITY CORRIDOR AND THEN IN THE CITY'S PARK SYSTEMS MASTER PLAN AS WELL AS THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION ACTION PLAN WE DO CALL OUT HOPEFULLY TO SEE A FUTURE KIND OF MULTI-USE PATH ALONG THE ENTIRE UTILITY CORRIDOR. SO WE DID CONDITION THE PLAYER TO HAVE A TRAIL EASEMENT THAT WE COULD USE IN THE FUTURE THERE SO WE DON'T SOMEHOW CREATE A GAP POTENTIALLY IN THAT OUTLET TO NOT BE ABLE TO PUT A TRAIL THROUGH THAT WHOLE AREA OF IT. SO WITH THAT STAFF AND THEN AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ALL THREE APPLICATIONS AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. KROLL COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO? COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU MADAM. ONE QUICK QUESTION IS THE CITY PAYING FOR THE REPAIR TO THAT SIDEWALK AND IF SO WHY? YEAH MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT IS ONE OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS THAT WE PUT ON THE PLAN IT WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE APPLICANT AND THE CONTRACTOR TO REPAY TO REPAIR ANY IMPACTS TO THE EXISTING CITY TRAIL. SO WE HAVE WE DID FLAG THAT NOTE ON THE PLANS AND ADDED THE CONDITION THAT IT ISN'T THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT. IT'S THE APPLICANT'S THAT SOMEBODY ELSE UNDER. SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. NICE TO MEET YOU. YEAH, NICE TO MEET YOU. RELATED TO THAT TRAIL QUESTION OR THE SIDEWALK, I'M ASSING THERE'S SOME ELEVATION CONCERNS THERE IF THIS IS GOING TO BE A KIND OF A YOU KNOW, A DRAINAGE AREA, WE WOULDN'T WANT THAT TO GET COMPLETELY OVERWHELMED DURING, YOU KNOW, THOSE PEAK PERIODS OF TIME. DO YOU KNOW IF WE'VE ALSO CONDITIONED IT TO BE ELEVATED OR TO SOME DEGREE MADE SO THAT IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY GET SWAMPED? YEAH. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO THERE ISN'T A SPECIFIC CONDITION ON THERE AROUND THE ELEVATION I'M NOT AWARE OF I GUESS SOME OF SOME OF THE MORE KIND OF TECHNICAL ENGINEERING QUESTIONS ARE KIND OF NOT NECESSARILY MY WHEELHOUSE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER ENGINEERING STAFF HAVE ANY COMMENTS BUT WE DIDN'T WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC CONDITIONS RELATED TO THAT. IT IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT IS THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT THAT YOU CALLED IT OUT. WE'RE REALLY HAPPY THAT YOU DID THAT. AND THEN THE QUESTION WOULD BE LIKE IS IT GOING TO BE USABLE OR IS THERE LIKE THREE MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR WHERE WE HAVE PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING YOUR THANK YOU. THAT'S OKAY. SECOND QUESTION I HAD WAS AND AND I THINK THAT COMMISSIONER ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE PLANNING COMMITTEE ASKED THE PLANNING COMMISSION ASKED A SIMILAR QUESTION WE ARE LOSING A DECENT AMOUNT OF A PERVIOUS SURFACE AND WE REPLACING A MAJORITY OF IT WITH IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. HENCE THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS WHAT WE MAY NOT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A CONDITION FOR OR WE WE DON'T HAVE ANY GUIDELINES AND OR REQUIREMENTS AS IT RELATES TO PERMEABLE SURFACES. AS FOR PARKING LOTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND I WOULD JUST LIKE MAYBE POINT OUT TO THE COUNCIL THAT THAT MIGHT BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST GOING FORWARD AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS. SO NOTE TO COUNCIL ON THAT BUT I'M CURIOUS WITH THAT WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION, WERE THE QUESTIONS ASKED BY PLANNING COMMISSION WAS THERE ANY CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND AND YOU ALL ON STAFF ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY COULD ACCOMMODATE ANYTHING MORE PERMEABLE? YEAH BUT MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO AFTER THE COMMISSION MEETING I DIDN'T HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT ON KIND OF EXPLORING PAVERS OR OTHER KINDS OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE MATERIALS. I IMAGINE PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE THIS BEING MORE OF A LOADING AREA WITH HEAVIER EQUIPMENT THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THEY DEFAULTED MORE TO ASPHALT OR SOMETHING THERE. BUT CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN THINK ABOUT KIND OF REALLY SORT OF SORRY. NO THAT'S GOOD. HI MRS. LONG. HOW ARE YOU, MR. MAYOR? COUNCILMEMBER DOUGLAS ANDRE HOPEFULLY YOU DON'T MIND ME COMING UP HERE THE CLASS FIVE GRAVEL PARKING LOT IS CONSIDERED AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IF YOU'VE EVER DRIVEN ON ONE DURING A RAINSTORM YOU NOTICE THAT IF IT'S DESIGNED WELL THE WATER'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE SO THAT IS WHY YOU'RE NOT SEEING A WHOLE LOT OF INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE BUT THEY ARE BUILDING A FILTRATION BASIN AS WELL. OH OKAY. AND SO WHAT HAPPENED JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT IS TRUE AND IT'S FAIRLY IMPERVIOUS NOW WHERE'S THE WATER GOING AT THE MOMENT SOME OF IT RUNS OFF AND AS SOME OF YOU HAVE POINTED OUT, IT DOES KIND OF FLOOD INTO THAT SIDEWALK AREA THERE IS A DEPRESSION AREA. SO IF YOU WALK IT IN LIKE THE MARCH TIMEFRAME WHEN SNOW IS MELTING AND REFREEZING YOU WILL DEFINITELY NOTICE THAT YOU DON'T NOTICE IT A LOT OF THE TIME IN THE YEAR UNLESS WHERE IT'S BEEN PARTICULARLY WET. SO I HAVEN'T WALKED IT RECENTLY BUT YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT WE'VE HAD A WETTER THAN AVERAGE APRIL AND MAY SO IT MAY BE WET NOW BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE IMPASSABLE. IT WOULD JUST BE YOUR FEET ARE GOING TO GET A LITTLE WET. YOU MIGHT HAVE TO CHANGE SOCKS . THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR INFORMING US ON THAT COUNCILMEMBER OR EXCUSE ME MS.. LONG I APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU, MAYOR . I WAS ACTUALLY AROUND THE AREA SO I DROVE THROUGH JUST LOOK AT IT. IT IS NOT CURRENTLY FLOODED RIGHT NOW BUT MY QUESTION IS I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE HOW CLOSE IT WAS TO SMITH PARK POND. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY PARTICULAR CONCERN WITH THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE CAUSING ISSUES IF WE DID HAVE A MAJOR STORM EVENT THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY FLOOD THE AREA SOUTH OF THAT YEAH MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER MUA WE DID IT DID HAVE SOME STAFF IN PUBLIC WORKS AND KIND OF SHARE THAT THAT QUESTION THAT YOU HAD THAT I THINK GIVEN THE CURRENT CLASSIFIED WOULD BE CONSIDERED IMPERVIOUS AND THERE'S NOT ANY KIND OF STORMWATER FACILITY THERE RIGHT NOW THE ADDITION OF THIS NEW INFILTRATION BASIN IN STORMWATER FACILITIES WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT TO THAT TO ENSURE THAT IT'S NOT CAUSING ANY ISSUES INTO SMITH PARK COUNCIL. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS HERE ? ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS IS ON 4.2 AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING THIS REGARDING THE HUNT ELECTRIC AT 7900 CHICAGO AVENUE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLANT PLANNING VARIANCE IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.2 THIS EVENING ? GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME IF YOU COULD IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD I'M CATHERINE BABCOCK. MY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS WOULD BE WITH SUCH A CLOSE LOCATION TO A WETLAND AREA WITH MIGRATING BIRDS, WHAT IS BEING DONE ABOUT LIGHTING DOWN LIGHTING WHAT IS BEING DONE ABOUT KEEPING LIGHTS OFF DURING MIGRATORY PERIODS IF THEY'RE GOING TO EXPAND THIS AREA UP TO THE FENCE AND LIGHT ALONG THE FENCE, MAKE SURE THAT THE LIGHTING DOESN'T FILTER FILTER INTO OR GO BEYOND THEIR PROPERTY LINES SO THAT YOU HAVE STILL AN INLAND AREA THAT IS AMENABLE TO A HABITAT SPACE. AND THEN ALSO IF THEY COULD OFFSET MORE OF THAT LOST AREA FOR PERMEABILITY WITH SOME MORE TREES, SOMETHING ALONG THE BACKSIDE INTO THE POWER LINES MAYBE IF THAT'S POSSIBLE TO BUILD OUT JUST TO ABSORB MORE OF THE CARBON THAT COMES IN TO THAT ENVIRONMENT EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHILE YOU'RE HERE AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CAREFUL AND CLOSE DECISIONS THE ENVIRONMENT THAT YOU'D MAKE NOTE THAT THESE ARE THE LITTLE WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN REALLY MAKE BLOOMINGTON FLOURISH. THAT'S A LOT OF SPACE TO LOSE TOO. I MEAN EVEN THOUGH IT'S STILL IMPERMEABLE BUT TAKE ADVANTAGE YOU COULD DO GREEN ROOFING. YOU COULD DO I KNOW THEY'RE DOING THE TREES ALONG THOSE SMITH AVENUE OR ALONG THE CHICAGO CORRIDOR THERE BUT I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY IF YOU GUYS WOULD JUST TAKE A LOOK AT MAKING SURE IT'S ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY FOR THAT LITTLE POND BECAUSE IT'S NOT DEVOID OF BIRDS OR PEOPLE. THANK YOU. GOOD. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WITH WHICH TO SPEAK ON END AND 4.2 THIS EVENING CAITLIN DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE LINE LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS COUNSEL NO ONE ELSE COMING FORWARD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS NO ONE ON THE PHONE LOOKED FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE AND IN 4.2 THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT IN 4.2 THIS EVENING A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON IT AND 4.2 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO SO MR. KROLL THE QUESTION REGARDING LIGHTING ISSUES OR THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDITIONAL VEGETATION AND SO ON HAS THAT BEEN HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED? IS THAT PART OF ANY REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR FRIENDS AT HUNTER ELECTRIC? YEAH, COUNCILMEMBERS WE DO LOOK AT LIGHTING AS PART OF THE REVIEW IN THIS CASE THEY'RE JUST UTILIZING THE EXISTING LIGHTING ON THE BUILDING, NOT PROPOSING ANY ADDITIONAL NEW LIGHTING WHEN THIS SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, IT ALSO INCLUDED A PROOF OF LIGHTING PLAN. SO IF THEY WANTED TO KIND OF PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OVERHEAD LIGHTS OR WHATEVER IT WOULD BE IN THAT LOADING AREA AND THERE IS KIND OF ALREADY A PROVED PLAN WITH THAT PROOF OF LIGHTING. VERY GOOD. SO THERE'S THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTING PLANNED WITH THIS AND THE LIGHTING THAT THEY HAVE ARE WITHIN THE THE MANDATES OF WHAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THERE AND THAT IS CORRECT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, COUNSEL ON THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO NO QUESTION ANY COMMENTS IN COMMENTS ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER ALESSANDRA THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT SINCE WE HAVE RELEVANT TOPICS ON THIS AN UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS TO JUST SUGGEST THAT WE AS A COUNCIL PROBABLY NEED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF THESE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS TO PLANNING BECAUSE THEY CAN ONLY ENFORCE AND PUT OUT THERE WHAT WE HAVE TOLD THEM WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. AND SO I BELIEVE WE'VE I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE I BELIEVE THAT WE ALL CARE ABOUT THIS BUT IF IF WE ARE IF WE DO WANT TO MOVE THAT FORWARD, I'D LIKE US TO CONTINUE TO THINK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW SOME OF THESE INCREMENTAL CHANGES AS THEY'VE BEEN CALLED EVEN CAN HELP US WITH SOME OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL OR SUSTAINABLE CITY GOALS AS WE, YOU KNOW, MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE PLANNING ORDINANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WITH THAT COMMENT I NOTHING FURTHER THANKS. THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT. APPRECIATE IT. ALSO ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS IF NOT COUNCIL WE HAVE THREE MOTIONS I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ON IT AND 4.2 THIS EVENING COUNCILMEMBER WATT THANK YOU MAYOR. I WOULD MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PLANNING VARIANCE TO ONLY PLAT AND SURVEY A PORTION OF A PARCEL FOR ALL THAT A SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING A PLANNING VARIANCE ONLY TO ONLY PLANT AND SURVEY A PORTION OF A PARCEL FOR LRT. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCILMEMBER AND MOVE TO APPROVE FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS FOR A PARKING LOT EXPANSION AND OTHER SITE IMPROVEMENTS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO APPROVE THE FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS FOR PARKING LOT EXPANSION AND OTHER SITE IMPROVEMENTS SUBJECT OF COURSE TO THE CONDITIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO COUNCILMEMBER AND MOVE TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT FOR HUNT ELECTRIC ADDITIONS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND COURT REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT SAID MOTION MY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND MY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLANNING ADOPT THE FINAL PLANT FOR HUNT ELECTRIC ADDITION NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WELCOME ABOARD GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE AND APPRECIATE IT. THANKS FOR THE CONVERSATION ON THIS ONE COUNCIL. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 4.3 ON OUR AGENDA AND 4.3 IS THE RESOLUTION RELATED TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET PETITION FOR KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM. MR. CENTENARIO IS HERE. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION PRESENTATIONS READY FOR YOU AND THERE AND WHEN THAT IS AVAILABLE? VERY GOOD. GREAT. THANK YOU. SO AND IF I COULD ASK YOU TO BE MINDFUL OF THE MICROPHONE AS YOU AS YOU SPEAK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCIL MEMBERS SO WE HAVE A UNIQUE FAIRLY UNIQUE AGENDA ITEM HERE AND WE WILL GO INTO SOME DETAIL ON WHAT WHAT THIS ACTION WE'RE SEEKING FROM YOU IS AND WHAT IS WHAT IT IS NOT BUT IT REVOLVES AROUND A PETITION TO THE MINNESOTA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY BOARD THAT AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET BE PREPARED FOR HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM IMPROVEMENTS. MAYBE THIS WILL WORK FOR 60 . OKAY, GREAT. SO JUST TO ANSWER THE QUESTION WHAT ARE WE ASKING YOU TO DO AND SIMPLY PUT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO DETERMINE IF THE KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL STADIUM PROJECT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT AND THEREFORE REQUIRE AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET OR AN EAW. WHAT WE ARE NOT ASKING YOU TO DO TONIGHT IS TO APPROVE OR DENY THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES THAT IS DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU DO TONIGHT THAT COULD BE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING PLANNED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION THIS THURSDAY AND THEY'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE OR DENY THE STADIUM PROJECTS IN THIS CASE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES HAVE THE APPROVAL AUTHORITY OF THE SITE PLAN AND THESE IMPROVEMENTS HOWEVER THAT IS SUBJECT TO AN APPEAL AND SO IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVES AND IT IS APPEALED THEN IT WOULD COME BACK TO YOU FOR A FINAL DECISION . ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU I'M AN ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. I WORK WITH PLANNING SO MAYOR AND MEMBERS I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT JUST KIND OF GROUND US AND WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES AS FAR AS AN EAW SO WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE MINNESOTA ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT SO IT WAS ADOPTED IN 1973 KIND OF MODELED AFTER THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT. SO THERE'S TWO SOURCES OF LAW WE LOOK AT THE STATUTES SO CHAPTER ONE SIX AND THEN THE RULES THE MINNESOTA ADMINISTRATIVE RULES, CHAPTER 4410 THE RULES REQUIRE THERE'S TWO MAIN DOCUMENTS ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. IT'S A BRIEF DOCUMENT THAT LAYS OUT FACTS IT'S USED TO DETERMINE THE NEED FOR AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT WHICH WAS A IS A LONGER MORE ANALYTICAL DOCUMENT THAT DISCUSSES ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS IN MORE DETAIL. SO THE EAW USED TO KIND OF DETERMINE THE NEED FOR AN ICE OR TO SCOPE OUT WHAT THE EIA SHOULD ADDRESS. THERE'S ALSO THE AREA WIDE ALTERNATIVE REVIEW WHICH WE HAVE IN THE SOUTH LOOP AS WELL I SHOULD MENTION THAT THE TWO PROJECTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT ARE OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA SO WE WILL NOT BE USING THAT REVIEW. ALL RIGHT. OOPS ARIEL SO THE RULES PROVIDE THAT AN EAW IS MANDATORY IN CERTAIN CASES THOSE ARE LISTED IN THE RULES. SO FOR SPORTS OR ENTERTAINMENT FACILITIES AND EAW IS REQUIRED IF IT'S GOING TO HAVE A PEAK ATTENDANCE OF 5000 OR MORE PEOPLE INDIVIDUALLY. THESE PROJECTS DON'T HIT THAT MARK BUT TOGETHER THEY MIGHT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT. THE OTHER WAY IT CAN COME BEFORE YOU FOR A DECISION IS BY A PETITION SO ANY PERSON CAN FILE MUST BE SIGNED BY AT LEAST 100 PEOPLE THAT OWN PROPERTY IN MINNESOTA THEY SUBMITTED THAT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY BOARD IN MINNESOTA WHO THEN VERIFIES THAT EVERYTHING IS ACCURATE IN THE PETITION SO WE DON'T DEAL WITH THAT ASPECT. THEY'VE ALREADY THAT SO THEY SENT IT TO US ON MAY 7TH AND THEN WE GOT IT TWO DAYS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS SCHEDULED TO HEAR IT ON MAY 9TH. ALL RIGHT. SO THE KEY QUESTION YOU'RE ASKED TODAY TO DETERMINE IS DOES THIS PROJECT HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS? SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BASELINE WE'RE LOOKING AT. THAT'S THE FINDING THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO MAKE TO ORDER AN EAW SO THERE'S FOUR FACTORS THAT THE RULES REQUIRE YOU TO TO LOOK AT DURING THAT AND THAT'S NUMBER ONE IS THE TYPE AND EXTENT AND REVERSIBILITY OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS. TWO IS THE CUMULATIVE POTENTIAL EFFECTS AND I'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN A SECOND. THREE IS THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS ARE SUBJECT TO MITIGATION BY ONGOING PUBLIC AUTHORITIES. SO THAT COULD BE THE CITY, THE MPCA OR OTHERS AND FOUR IS THE EXTENT TO WHICH OTHER TWITCH ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS CAN BE ANTICIPATED OR CONTROLLED AS A RESULT OF OTHER AVAILABLE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES. SO AND I HATE PUTTING THIS MUCH TEXT ON HERE BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH HAVING IT ALL IN ONE SLIDE FOR FOR YOU ALL TO LOOK AT I GET I GET UNDERSTAND IT'S A LOT OF TEXT GOING BACK TO THE CUMULATIVE POTENTIAL EFFECTS THERE'S FOUR LITTLE SUB ITEMS YOU NEED TO ADDRESS IN THERE ONE WHETHER THE CUMULATIVE CUMULATIVE POTENTIAL EFFECT IS SIGNIFICANT TO WHETHER THE CONTRIBUTION IS SIGNIFICANT WHEN VIEWED IN CONNECTION WITH OTHER CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CUMULATIVE POTENTIAL EFFECT AND YOU CAN CONSIDER OTHER PAST PROJECTS IN THE ENVIRONMENTALLY RELEVANT AREA OR OTHER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE REASONABLY CERTAIN TO OCCUR IN THAT AREA. THREE THE DEGREE TO WHICH THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH MITIGATION MEASURES AND THEN FOR THE EFFORTS OF PROPOSER TO MINIMIZE CONTRIBUTION AND SO MR. CENTENARIO WILL GO OVER THE ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS MITIGATION EFFORTS BY THE PROPOSER ONGOING AUTHORITY BY US AND OTHER PUBLIC AGENCIES TO REGULATE. THOSE ARE JUST THE FINDINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER IN THE ANALYSIS. TURNING TO ONE OF THE ARGUMES AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE WORTH SOME LEGAL BACKGROUND ON WHAT A CONNECTED OR A PHASED ACTION IS BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS THAT THE PETITIONERS ARE MAKING. SO THE RULES PROVIDE THAT IF TWO PROJECTS ARE COURT CONNECTED ACTIONS OR A PHASED ACTION THEY ARE CONSIDERED TOGETHER FOR AN EAW DETERMINATION SO YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THEM AS A SINGLE PROJECT THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE TAKEN TOGETHER EACH STADIUM HAS 2500 PEOPLE TOGETHER IT WOULD BE 5000 SO THAT TRIGGERS A MANDATORY EAW SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS THEY'RE MAKING THE RULES PROVIDE WHAT THE DEFINITION OF THOSE TWO TERMS ARE. SO A CONNECTED ACTION IS IF ONE PROJECT WOULD DIRECTLY INDUCE THE OTHER OR ONE PROJECT IS A PREREQUISITE TO THE OTHER AND THE OTHER IS NOT JUSTIFIED IN ITSELF OR THREE THAT NEITHER PROJECT IS JUSTIFIED IN ITSELF SO NOT THE ORDERS EITHER ANY OF THOSE CAN BE TRUE FOR A PHASED ACTION TWO OR MORE PROJECTS TO BE UNDERTAKEN BY THE SAME PROPOSER THAT'S TRUE HERE WILL HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS IN THE SAME GEOGRAPHIC AREA. PROBABLY A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION THERE AND THEN THREE ARE SUBSTANTIALLY CERTAIN TO BE UNDERTAKEN SEQUENTIALLY OVER A LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME SO THAT IS MET BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PLAN TO KIND OF DO THESE AT THE SAME TIME OR IN SHORT ORDER SUCCESSION. UM THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR THE FRIEND OF THE LEGAL TO KIND OF GROUND US AND WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT TONIGHT. SO MR. CENTENARIAN WILL GO OVER THE INDIVIDUAL ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS NOW THANK YOU FOR THE LEGAL BACKGROUND QUESTION. YES, IF I CAN ASK A QUICK CLARIFYING QUESTION THANK YOU . WOULD YOU MIND GOING BACK TO SLIDES VERY QUICKLY? SURE. YEAH, JUST SOMETHING I'M NOT QUITE CONNECTED FOR ONE MORE. OKAY. ONE SO RELATED TO THE I PETITION SO BY PETITION IS THAT BY PETITION TO US BY PETITION TO LIKE THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY BOARD IS IT ALL OF THE ABOVE WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE REQUIREMENT THERE THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER D'ALESSANDRO THAT THE PETITION GOES TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY BOARD FIRST AND THEN THEY DETERMINE WHO THE RESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT UNIT IS ,MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. THEY DETERMINED IT WAS THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND THEN THEY SEND IT TO US. THAT'S HOW IT CAME TO US. YEAH. THEY VERIFY THAT ALL THE SIGNATURES ARE TRUE AND CORRECT SO THAT THAT TAKES US OUT OF THAT EQUATION TO DO THAT. UNDERSTOOD. CAN YOU MIGHT ONE MORE I'M SORRY NEXT NEXT SLIDE REALLY I APPRECIATE THIS. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO THE THE NOTE IF YOU CAN PROVIDE ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CUMULATIVE POTENTIAL IS SIGNIFICANT AND SIGNIFICANT WHEN VIEWED IN CONNECTION. SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE ONE IS STRAIGHT UP SIGNIFICANT THE OTHER ONE IS STRAIGHT UP AND LIKE SIGNIFICANT IN CONTEXT YEAH CORRECT. SO HOW DO THEY PLAY AGAINST EACH OTHER? MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT THEM. YOU KNOW ONE FACTOR IS BY ITSELF AND THEN YOU CAN CONSIDER PAST ACTIONS IN THE ENVIRONMENTALLY RELEVANT AREA OR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S LIKELY TO OCCUR. SO WHAT THE RULES SAY IS THAT THERE HAS TO BE LIKE DEVELOPMENT PLANS OR SOMETHING RELATIVELY SPECIFIC YOU'LL NOTE IN THE KENNEDY ONE WE TALK ABOUT THE LYNDALE RETROFIT AND POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT THERE. SO YEAH, THEY WANT TO SEPARATELY ANALYZE THEM BUT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT FUTURE PAST PROJECTS IN THAT AREA SO OKAY THANK YOU. THANKS TO ME COUNCILMEMBER NELSON QUESTION YEAH, THANKS MARY. JUST A QUICK PROCESS QUESTION BEFORE WE JUMP INTO REVIEWING ALL OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS, DOES IT MAKE ANY SENSE TO JUST ADDRESS THE MANDATORY BECAUSE OF ITS MANDATORY? THERE REALLY ISN'T ANYTHING ELSE TO TALK ABOUT. UH, I'M NOT EXACTLY CLEAR WHAT YOU'RE ASKING HERE. I'M JUST ASKING IF WE SHOULD JUST RIGHT NOW ADDRESS WHETHER OR NOT IT'S MANDATORY OR NOT. OH, BECAUSE IF IT'S MANDATORY WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE A DETERMINATION OF ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE IT'S MANDATORY. BUT THAT IS CORRECT. I WILL LOOK TO KEVIN PLEASE MAYOR AND MEMBERS. I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. IF YOU MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT THEY'RE CONNECTED OR PHASED PROJECT THEN YOU WON'T HAVE TO CONSIDER ANYTHING ELSE. THE CUMULATIVE OR POTENTIAL EFFECTS. IT WOULD JUST MEAN THAT YOU WOULD HIT THE 5000 MARK SO MAYBE WE'LL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE REASONS WHY THE CITY IS NOT SUPPORTING THAT ARGUMENT. BUT YEAH, AS MANAGING YOUR MEMBERS OF I MIGHT ADD THANK YOU KEVIN FOR THAT INTRODUCTORY ITEM I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO MAKE FINDINGS BASED ON WHATEVER DIRECTION IT GOES AND SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT'S IN THE PACKET DOES THAT PROCESS VARY IN A VERY DETAILED WAY AS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION? SO THERE MAY BE BENEFIT IN HAVING THE FOUR PRESENTATIONS SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE A FULLER DISCUSSION ? OKAY. VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD. BUT I WILL THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER NELSON FOR BRINGING A PROCESS BECAUSE I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THIS AS WE STARTED. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT IS GET THROUGH THE STAFF PRESENTATION HERE AND ASK QUESTIONS AS NECESSARY. THEN I KNOW WE HAVE PETITIONS, OUR PETITIONERS ARE HERE AND GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE TO ABOUT 10 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR SIDE OF THE STORY HERE AND THEN HEAR FROM OUR FRIENDS AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND GET THE FULL GIVE THE FULL BREADTH OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. SO AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT AHEAD OF TIME. IT JUST KIND OF SLIPPED MY MIND BUT I WANTED TO GIVE BOTH FOLKS A HEADS UP AS TO WHAT OUR PROCESS IS GOING TO BE AS WE'RE GOING TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD HERE. SO SO THANK YOU FOR FOR REMINDING ME SO MR. CENTENARIO GREAT MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS SO AS MR. TUSK INTRODUCED OUR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU IS TO FIND THAT THERE IS NOT THE POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND WE ALSO ARE OF THE OPINION THAT THIS IS NOT A MANDATORY UH PROJECT UH YOU KNOW IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE HIGH SCHOOLS ARE LOCATED GEOGRAPHICALLY UH AS A BIRD FLIES ARE THREE MILES APART. THEY DO HAVE THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER OF COURSE SO IS A SIMILARITY BUT THERE IS NO PHASING FOR THESE PROJECTS. SO UNLIKE MALL OF AMERICA OR BLOOMINGTON CENTRAL STATION WHERE THERE ARE PHASES OF DEVELOPMENT AND THEY HAPPEN IN A SEQUENTIAL MANNER THAT IS NOT THE CASE WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM. THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF LAND USE OR LAND USES THAT ARE IN BETWEEN THESE TWO SITES THERE YOU KNOW, 35 W BISECTS THE THE AREAS BLOOMINGTON THESE ARE LOCATED IN DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS OF COURSE SERVED BY DIFFERENT AND COLLECTOR STREETS THERE EVEN IN DIFFERENT WATERSHED DISTRICTS. SO THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ENVIRONMENTAL FACTOR. YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT THE WATER QUALITY AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS ARE DIFFERENT BY SOMEWHAT BY WATERSHED DISTRICT THE KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOLS AND MY MILL CREEK WATERSHED DISTRICT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOLS AND LOWER MINNESOTA WATERSHED DISTRICT. SO WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS THIS PROJECT MEETS THE MANDATORY E W OR CONNECTED AND DECISION SO I'LL TOUCH ON EXISTING CONDITIONS. SO WE ARE REVIEWING THE KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS AND THE NOT A WHOLE MUCH WHEN YOU REPHRASE THAT THERE ARE CERTAINLY SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING AND WE'LL WILL IDENTIFY EXACTLY WHAT THOSE ARE. BUT BY AND LARGE IF YOU LOOK AT THE CAMPUS THERE WOULDN'T BE WOULDN'T BE THAT MANY CHANGES BUT OF COURSE NOT TOO FAR FROM WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT . KENNEDY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EAGLE TRACK, ABBEY ROAD AND NICOLLET THE STADIUM WHICH I'VE CIRCLED HERE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IT'S AN EXISTING STADIUM. THERE IS AN EXISTING TRACK TRACK AND FIELD IMPROVEMENTS AND THE ARTIFICIAL TURF FOR THE FIELD ITSELF IS ALREADY EXISTING. AND SO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DO I BELIEVE THEY WANT TO REPLACE THE FIELD BUT IT'S GOING FROM ARTIFICIAL TURF TO ARTIFICIAL TURF. SO THERE ARE SOME SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR ACCESSIBILITY AND PEDESTRIAN PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND WE'LL TOUCH ON THAT MOMENT. AND SO THIS IS FROM THE APPLICANT TEAM ON TERMS AND THIS IS THE CAMPUS PLAN WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS AND YOU CAN SEE SCHOOL THE PARKING AREAS AND THEN THE STADIUM ITSELF AND SO THE MAIN IMPROVEMENT IS THE BLEACHERS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE FOOTBALL FIELD AND I HAVE SOME OTHER IMAGES OF THAT THE PARKING AREA TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE STADIUM WOULD SHRINK A LITTLE BIT TO ACCOMMODATE DROP OFF AREAS AND THOSE PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND I WILL ALSO TOUCH ON A PROOF OF PARKING PLAN THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE IN ORDER TO MEET CERTAIN CITY CODE REQUIREMENTS. SO IN TERMS OF PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT'S BEING PROPOSED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THIS IS REALLY THE THE MAIN THE MAIN ELEMENT IS A BLEACHERS TO SUPPORT FOLKS THAT WANT TO WATCH ACTIVITIES OR FOOTBALL WOULD CERTAINLY BE ONE. BUT THEN THERE'LL ALSO BE TRACK AND FIELD SOCCER AND I BELIEVE LACROSSE THERE WOULD USE THE SPACE. SO IN TERMS OF SEATING AGAIN YOU HEARD THAT THE OCCUPANCY WOULD BE ABOUT 2500 SPECTATORS. THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE HERE. THIS IS A BLEACHER SYSTEM THAT WOULD MEET THAT THE HEIGHT OF THIS BLEACHERS SYSTEM IS ALSO RELEVANT IF YOU CAN SEE THAT THE IMAGE ON THE LOWER PART OF THE SCREEN IT'S ABOUT THREE AND A HALF FEET. WE DO HAVE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR BUILDING HEIGHT AND THAT COULD REQUIREMENT HERE IS 40 FEET SO IT'S BELOW BUILDING HEIGHT ALLOWANCES IN THE CITY . SO OF COURSE HAD A LOT OF FEEDBACK RELATED TO PARKING AND THAT'S OF COURSE SOMETHING THAT WE REVIEW, SOMETHING WE LOOK AT. IT'S IT'S ALWAYS A BALANCE. WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS ENOUGH PARKING SO THERE AREN'T SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES. BUT YOU KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. WE DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ACRES AND ACRES OF PARKING THAT IS THAT IS EMPTY THE VAST MAJORITY OF TIME. WE DO BELIEVE THAT THAT HAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT IN ITSELF BUT AT THE KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS THERE ARE 652 SURFACE STALLS IN THESE VARIOUS AREAS AND THE CODE REQUIREMENT BECAUSE WE CALCULATE THAT ONE THIRD OF THE OCCUPANCY IS 833 SO WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT A WAY IF IF THAT IS TRULY NEEDED WHERE COULD THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BUILD MORE PARKING AND THE SOLUTION THERE IS TO DESIGN A PROOF OF PARKING LOT . THAT'S ONE MOMENT. WELL, I'LL GET TO THAT A MOMENT. SORRY. COASTER IMAGE OF THE STADIUM AGAIN BUT I WANT I ALSO WANT TO TOUCH ON LIKE JUST SIDE BY SIDE EXISTING PROPOSED ON THE LEFT IS EXISTING YOU SEE THE FOOTBALL FIELD THERE ARE SOME BLEACHERS THERE TODAY THERE'S A FIELD THAT'S USED FOR TRACK TRACK ACTIVITIES AND THEN ON THE RIGHT YOU SEE THE AGAIN THE FOOTBALL FIELD IS THE SAME LOCATION, SAME CONFIGURATION BUT YOU HAVE THE BLEACHERS THERE ALONG WITH SOME SITE IMPROVEMENTS. NOW THIS IS THE PROOF OF PARKING I MENTIONED SO PROOF OF PARKING IS A WAY TO MEET CODE REQUIREMENTS BUT DEFER CONSTRUCTION OF PARKING TO ENSURE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY NECESSARY. AND SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THESE PROOF OF PARKING AGREEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND TO DATE WE HAVEN'T THE CITY ITSELF HAS NOT FORCED OR COMPELLED A PROPERTY OWNER TO BUILD ADDITIONAL PARKING. IT DOES HAPPEN BUT IT'S USUALLY THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT DECIDES THAT THEY NEED MORE PARKING THEN THEY BUILD IT ON THEIR OWN. BUT ALSO YOU KNOW IF WE IF WE FIND THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARY AFTER YOU KNOW, OBSERVING HOME FOOTBALL GAMES FOR THEN IT WOULDN'T BE CONSTRUCTED AND SO IT'S A WAY TO IDENTIFY AND ADDRESS CODE REQUIREMENTS BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND THE REALITY THAT SOMETIMES THE CODE REQUIREMENT DOES NOT EQUATE TO THE TRUE DEMAND ON THE SITE AND THEN WE CAN'T INCLUDE IT IN THE PARKING SUPPLY BUT THERE IS SOME ON STREET PARKING THAT'S AVAILABLE CERTAINLY NOT ALONG NICOLLET OR 19TH STREET BUT AND THERE ARE SOME PARKING RESTRICTIONS BUT THERE ARE SOME ON STREET PARKING THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE OVERFLOW. NOW SHIFTING IN TERMS OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS SHIFTING TO NOISE NOISE IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THE PRIMARY CONCERNS WITH THE STADIUM PROJECT THERE'S AMPLIFIED SOUND, THERE IS A MARCHING BANDS, THERE'S CROWDS AND SO THERE'S GOING TO BE NOISE AND THE BCA HAS VERY SPECIFIC NOISE STANDARDS AND THAT IS DIVIDED BETWEEN DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME. NATURALLY THE NIGHTTIME STANDARD IS MORE STRINGENT AND SO WE NEEDED TO HAVE A MODEL OR A PLAN THAT IDENTIFIED WHETHER OR NOT THE ANTICIPATED NOISE WOULD BE COMPLIANT AND THAT'S MEASURED IN L TEN AND L 50 WHICH IS THE SOUND LEVEL EXPRESSED IN DBA WHICH HAS EXCEEDED 10% OF THE TIME FOR A ONE HOUR SURVEY. SO IT IS NOT A PEAK NOISE. IT IS A A LEVEL THAT HAS EXCEEDED 10% OF THE TIME AND SIMILARLY L 50 IS A LEVEL THAT HAS EXCEEDED 50% OF THE TIME. WE'RE GOING TO NEED MUCH DETAIL BUT HERE'S JUST AN IMAGE THAT IT KIND OF IDENTIFIES WHAT THAT IS AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE PEAKS AND VALLEYS OF YOU KNOW OF OF NOISE. SO INITIALLY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DID NOT PROVIDE A SOUND STUDY. THEY DID SOME CALCULATIONS AND THEY FOUND THAT THEY BASED ON THOSE CALCULATIONS THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH CODE COMPLIANCE. ULTIMATELY THEY DID CONDUCT A SOUND STUDY WITH AN ACOUSTICS FIRM AND THEY MODELED THE NOISE BASED ON A VARIETY OF FACTORS BASED ON STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE GENERALLY ACCEPTED METHODOLOGIES AND THEY FOUND THAT THE ANTICIPATED NOISE WOULD BE CODE COMPLIANT AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE IMAGES JUST THE THE MODEL ITSELF BUT THEN ON THE TABLE ONE IN THE LOWER RIGHT YOU CAN SEE KENNEDY THE DAYTIME ANTICIPATED IS 58 AND THEN THE L 50 IS 51. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE LEVELS THAT ARE THAT ARE COMPLIANT WITH MPAC AND THE CITY REQUIREMENTS SIMILARLY AND THIS IS JUST AN IMAGE OF THE L 50 THE OH 50 MODEL AGAIN CODE COMPLYING. SO A LOT OF THESE STANDARDS THAT WE TALK ABOUT WHETHER IT'S NOISE, WHETHER IT'S STORMWATER IS REALLY TRYING TO ANTICIPATE AND ADDRESS A LOT OF THESE ENVIRONMENTAL THAT ARE POSSIBLE LIGHTING IS ANOTHER ONE AND YOU KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMENTS ON MIGRATORY BIRDS WHICH WE CAN CERTAINLY RESPECT AT ISSUE IN ONE CASE WAS THE DESIGN THAT WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED AND SO NATURALLY IF YOU'RE PLAYING FOOTBALL OR BASEBALL THERE AND YOU'RE PLAYING A NIGHT YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO SEE A BALL THAT'S BEING THROWN TO YOU AND THE SOLUTION OR TO IMPROVE THE ILLUMINATION OF THAT IS TO HAVE AN UP UPLIFT FIXTURE AS YOU CAN SEE IN THAT IMAGE ON THE LEFT. WELL, THAT'S NOT PERMITTED IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND SO WE HAD THE APPLICANT REMOVE IT AND THEY HAVE DONE SO. SO THERE THERE WOULD NOT BE THIS UPLIFT FIXTURE THAT'S CAUSING THE GLARE AND THE LIGHT POLLUTION THAT WAS OF CONCERN. SO ON THE UPPER RIGHT YOU CAN SEE THAT'S REALLY THE SYSTEM THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED. YOU HAVE THE PRIMARY OF LIGHT FIXTURES AT THE TOP OF THE POLE AND THEN THE LOWER FIXTURES WOULD BE THE UP LIGHT THAT THAT'S NOT BEING PROPOSED ANYMORE. AND SIMILARLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MODELING WE ALSO REQUIRE MODELING FOR LIGHTING AND WE USE THAT WE THESE ARE CALLED PHOTOMETRIC PLANS AND SO YOU CAN SEE THESE NUMBERS ON THE FIELD. THOSE ARE MEASURED IN FOOT CANDLES AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY MAXIMUM FOOT CANDLE REQUIREMENTS FOR A FIELD OR A PARKING LOT BUT WE DO HAVE MAXIMUM LEVELS OF PROPERTY LINES AND THE MOST RESTRICTIVE IS IS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY PROPERTIES AGAIN THIS IS ALONG THIRD OUT THIRD AVENUE SOUTH ARE THE MORE IMPACTED AREA AND THEN WE THE APPLICANT IDENTIFIED WHAT THAT LIGHT TRESPASS WOULD BE AT THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE A 0.39 THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED IS POINT FIVE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MEASURE IN PERSON WITH A LIGHT METER WE WOULD DO THAT YOU KNOW PRIOR TO A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE STADIUM TO ENSURE THAT THAT LIGHTING LEVEL IS CALLED COMPLYING. I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON CONSERVATION AND YOU KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF REFERENCES TO ENDANGERED SPECIES AND AGAIN THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE AWARE OF AND RESPECT AND WANT TO PRESERVE BUT WE DO NOT FEEL THAT THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AS IT PERTAINS TO WILDLIFE OR PEOPLE AT THIS SITE. SO IDENTIFIED THE KENNEDY AND JEFFERSON ON THIS IMAGE AND THIS IS A CONSERVATION QUARTER THAT MAPPED, YOU KNOW, MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, A LOT OF THESE AREAS ARE A LONG TIME CREEK OR THE WATERSHED OF NINE MILE CREEK LAKES AND IN THE RIVER VALLEY THESE TWO SITES ARE INTENDED IN PARTICULAR ARE NOT LOCATED IN A CONSERVATION CORRIDOR UNLESS I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON MIGRATORY BIRDS. THE AUDUBON SOCIETY HAS A MAPPING SYSTEM THAT'S INTERACTIVE WHERE YOU CAN WEAR IDENTIFIES IMPORTANT BIRD AREAS WITHIN OR WITHIN THE COUNTRY BUT YOU CAN ZOOM IN AND IDENTIFY WHERE THESE AREAS ARE RELATIVE TO A PARTICULAR GEOGRAPHY. AND SO THIS GREEN THAT'S YOU KNOW, AS YOU CAN GUESS IS THE RIVER VALLEY IS AN IMPORTANT BIRD AREA. THE LOCATION OF KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL IS NOT WITHIN THAT BIRD IMPORTANT BIRD AREA. AND LASTLY, ONE OF THE MORE CHALLENGING ISSUES THAT WE DEAL WITH IS A GROWING CONTAMINATION AND AS A PETITIONER RIGHTLY IDENTIFIED AS THAT LYNDALE AVENUE IS A IS A SUPERFUND SITE OR THAT CORRIDOR AND SO ON THIS GRAPHIC YOU SEE THE POTENTIAL SOURCE AREA FOR CONTAMINATION OR PLUME AND WHERE THAT IS IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AGAIN CENTERED ON LYNDALE AVENUE BETWEEN 90TH AND 90TH. AND SO THIS THIS OF COURSE ISN'T IS AN AREA CONCERN AND THERE HAS BEEN DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THIS AREA THAT HAD TO MITIGATE OF VAPORS THAT COULD BE HARMFUL TO PEOPLE THE WAY TO MITIGATE IT IT IS MORE OR LESS SIMILAR TO A RADON SYSTEM ONLY ON A LARGER SCALE FOR APARTMENT BUILDINGS WHICH IS WHAT WAS DONE. SO GIVEN THAT KENNEDY IS HIGH SCHOOL IS NOT WITHIN THE PLUME STAFF REVIEWED STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLANS RELATIVE TO THE LINDOW CORRIDOR SUPERFUND SITE AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CONCERNS THE PROJECT IMPACTS THIS CONTAMINATED AREA . SO WITH THAT OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL IS THAT YOU ADOPT A RESOLUTION DETERMINING THAT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THE KENNEDY STADIUM. THANK YOU MR. CENTENARIO COUNSEL QUESTIONS OF EITHER MR. CENTENARIO OR MR. TOSCHI COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO THANK YOU. SORRY FOR YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GO THROUGH YOUR FOUR PARTS THERE AND JUST GET A QUICK ANSWER FROM YOU IF I CAN. ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT IF THE BCA WERE TO REVIEW THE NOISE STUDY THAT WE GOT TODAY THAT THEY WOULD FIND IT'S FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE AND THAT THEY WOULD AGREE WITH YOU DO YOU FEEL CONFIDENT OF THAT? MR. GARRETT COUNCILMEMBER I'M CONFIDENT THEY WOULD ACCEPT THE FINDINGS FROM THE THE FIRM THE FIRM THE NAME OF THE FIRM HAS BEEN A CLASS AND THEY'RE A REPUTABLE ACOUSTICS FIRM. THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK WITHIN THE CITY BLOOMINGTON ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTH OF THE DISTRICT WE HAVE AIRPORT NOISE AND SO THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE STANDARDS THAT APPLY . WHETHER OR NOT MPAC WOULD AGREE IT'S HARD TO SAY. I THINK I THINK WE HAVE THESE STUDIES DONE BY A REPUTABLE PROFESSIONALS AND THE FIRM THAT DID THIS WORK IS IS I CAN'T THINK OF A FIRM THAT WOULD DO A BETTER JOB. I THINK IT WAS AN INAPPROPRIATE LEVEL OF WORK THAT THEY DID A GREAT REGARDING LIGHTING THE BCA DOESN'T HAVE A FOR THAT CORRECT SPEER COUNCILMEMBER I'M NOT AWARE OF THE PC HAVING A LIGHTING MODEL OR LIGHTING REQUIREMENT. THE CITY THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS ACTUALLY PRETTY PROGRESSIVE IN TERMS OF OUR OWN LIGHTING STANDARDS AND WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW COMMUNITIES THAT ACTUALLY GO OUT INSPECT LIGHTING. YEAH, WE DO THAT AT NIGHT OF COURSE WHERE WE CAN HAVE AN ACCURATE READING OF WHAT THAT LIGHT LEVEL IS AT A PARTICULAR SPOT. YEAH. OKAY. REGARDING CONTAMINATION I WOULD ASSUME THAT BEING POLLUTION CONTROL AGENCY WOULD HAVE A POINT OF VIEW ON CONTAMINATION. I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU ALSO THINK THAT THEY AGREE WITH YOU BASED ON WHAT YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND ANY EXPERIENCE YOU'VE HAD WITH THEM IN THE PAST REGARDING THE TERM MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER YOU KNOW, I OF COURSE WOULD DEFER TO OUR FRIENDS IN PUBLIC WORKS BUT I TRUST THEIR ANALYSIS AND THEIR FINDING THAT THIS IS NOT A CONCERN. OKAY AND OF COURSE THEY DON'T NECESSARILY PARTICIPATE IN CONSERVATION. SO YOUR LEVERAGING THE WHO DID YOU SAY THAT THE CONSERVATION CORRIDOR COMES FROM IT'S FROM THE DNR, CORRECT? YEAH A IT WAS A COLLABORATION I THINK WAS THE DNR BUT THEN THAT PARTICULAR MAP WAS IN A NINE MILE CREEK WATERSHED STUDY YOU KNOW THAT IDENTIFIED SENSIBLE OR SENSITIVE AND HIGH QUALITY HABITATS WITHIN THE WATERSHED DISTRICT. AND DO YOU KNOW IN THAT STUDY WAS CONDUCTED I'M SORRY I DON'T KNOW THE AREA IT WAS A MORE RECENT STUDY WE COULD LAST TEN YEARS OR SO. YEAH I BELIEVE SO. YEAH. OKAY GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER MOMENT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS WITH THOSE FOUR ITEMS THAT ARE THERE AND MAYBE THIS IS NOT A QUESTION FOR YOU. MAYBE THIS IS THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. DO WE NEED TO MAKE ALL FOUR FINDINGS OR JUST WOULD ONE BE SUFFICIENT? OH MR. CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE FOUR FINDINGS GO BACK TO. YEAH IF YOU DON'T MIND GOING BACK TO THAT JUST WE'RE HAVING A LAPTOP. YEAH DONE. SORRY IT'S GOING THROUGH ALL WELL THIS WAS MUCH FURTHER BACK THEN I THOUGHT WOULD BE FAR THERE IT IS. OH YEAH. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT OOPS SORRY. AND THAT ONE THERE'S A LAG THERE YOU GO ON NUMBER TWO CUMULATIVE POTENTIAL EFFECTS YOU OUGHT TO CONSIDER ALL THOSE FACTORS. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE COUCHED IN TERMS OF MAKING A FINDING OR NOT BUT THOSE ARE THE FOUR FACTORS YOU NEED TO CONSIDER ADDRESS AT LEAST IN THE DETERMINATION AND THOSE ARE ADDRESSED IN THE FINDINGS. OKAY. SO LOOK AT ALL FOUR OF THOSE. OKAY. AND THEN IN OF SINCE THE APPLICANT HAS CHANGED HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE LIGHTING HOW AM I HANDLE THAT I REVIEW THESE FOR THESE FOUR FINDINGS LIKE I CAN DRIVE UP TO THE MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I CAN I CAN JUST ADDRESS THE FACT THAT THE FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLAN APPROVAL THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL NEED TO MAKE. ONE OF THE FINDINGS THEY NEED TO MAKE IS THAT IT'S CODE COMPLIANT SO THEY'LL HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT SOUND AND LIGHTING ARE BOTH COMPLIANT. SO WOULD I WOULD JUST ADD MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER THAT YOU KNOW, WE IDENTIFIED A COMPLIANCE ISSUE WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEY TOOK THAT FEEDBACK AND THEN THEY ADJUSTED THEIR PLANS TO TO BE TO GO WITHIN COMPLIANCE. AND SO IN TERMS OF ANY CONCERNS ABOUT UPLOADING, THOSE CONCERNS ARE REMOVED WITH THE REMOVAL OF THOSE FIXTURES. OKAY. SO THAT BEEN RESOLVED. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT YEAH. AND MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS PLANS ALWAYS TEND TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT BETWEEN A PROJECT IS REVIEWED AND WHEN SOMEONE'S LOOKING FOR PERMITS AND I JUST WANT TO ASSURE THE COUNCIL THAT WE REVIEW WE DO A THOROUGH REVIEW BEFORE ANY PERMITS ARE ISSUED TO ENSURE THAT IT'S STILL IN COMPLIANCE. I THINK I'VE GOT SEVERAL BUT IT WAS LAST JUST ONE LAST QUESTION IN TERMS OF GEOGRAPHICAL AREA CONSIDERATION SEQUENCE LOOK AT THIS WRITTEN BETTER HERE HOW CLOSE WOULD A PROJECT NEED TO BE IN ORDER TO BE CONSIDERED TO BE CONNECTED? SURE IT'S VERY COUNCILMEMBER. THERE IS NOT A PARTICULAR STANDARD BUT WHAT I CAN DO IS COMPARE IT TO OTHER DEVELOPMENTS OR OTHER PROJECTS WITH THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON THAT ARE PHASED OR CONNECTED SO IF YOU ENVISION BLOOMINGTON CENTRAL STATION FOR EXAMPLE WHERE YOU HAVE A MULTIPLE PHASE DEVELOPMENT OVER YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW THE ACREAGE BUT A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF ACRES AND WHERE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS OVER TIME THAT IS IN ONE OVERALL SITE OR PROPERTY OR GROUPING OF PROPERTIES I'LL CONSIDER THAT A SIMILAR GEOGRAPHIC AREA . SO THIS SITE OR SITE OR PROPERTIES THAT WERE MORE SO MORE OF A SITE MORE OF A SITE AND SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN AND JEFFERSON IS AN AREA ACROSS THE CITY AND SO YOU KNOW, IF YOU CONNECT THEM GEOGRAPHICALLY I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY WHERE YOU WHERE YOU STOP THE CONNECTION GEOGRAPHICALLY IS ANYTHING WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON GEOGRAPHICALLY CONNECTED? AND I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S NOT IT REALLY IS MORE OF A SITE SPECIFIC OR PHASE DEVELOPMENT SPECIFIC CONTEXT. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. IT'S WHOLE STAFF KIND OF LOOKED AT THAT. APPRECIATE THEM. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING. SO WHEN YOU WERE LOOKING AT THE DETERMINING WHETHER IT WAS CONNECTED OR PHASED AND YOU WERE LOOKING AT THE TWO DIFFERENT SITES, DID YOU ALSO CONSIDER THE THIRD SITE WHICH IS THE LINCOLN STADIUM WHICH WILL NO LONGER BE IN USE? YOU KNOW, I COULD SEE SOMEBODY MAKING AN ARGUMENT THAT NET THERE IT'LL BE 5000. RIGHT. BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO SUBTRACTING OUT THE USE OF THE THE LINCOLN STADIUM. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE SO IT'S NOT REALLY BETTER? YEAH. MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS YOU KNOW WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T REALLY ADD THE IMPACT REMOVING LINCOLN PER SE YOU KNOW IT IS IT'S AN EXISTING FACILITY YOU KNOW, CONCERNS ABOUT EMISSIONS OR TRAFFIC THAT CAME UP QUITE A BIT. YOU KNOW IT'S PERSONAL THESE THESE TRIPS ARE ALREADY. HOME FOOTBALL GAMES ARE THERE AT LINCOLN SO THERE'S THERE ARE VEHICLES THERE'S BUSING AND SO THE DISTRIBUTION THAT CHANGES BUT THE TRIPS AND THE EMISSIONS THAT THAT'S STILL EXISTING SO I GUESS I WOULDN'T CHARACTERIZE IT AS REMOVING 5000 I WOULD JUST CHARACTERIZE IT AS RELOCATING THAT TRAFFIC OR OR IMPACT. I THINK YOU NEED ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU ON REGARDS TO THE COMMUNITY EFFECT. YOU MENTIONED THAT ALL THE PROJECT FOR REFURBISH IN LYNDALE COULD HAVE COULD AFFECT THE LINK THE KENNEDY STADIUM HOW SO WELL MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS I THINK THERE WAS TO IDENTIFY WAY OF LOOKING AT THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE LYNDALE CORRIDOR OR THE WINDOW HAVING TO RETROFIT FOR EXAMPLE AND PROJECTS ALONG THE CORRIDOR ARE DIRECTLY LINKED OF IN TERMS OF COMMUNAL CUMULATIVE IMPACT FOR THE STADIUM. I THINK WE JUST WANTED TO IDENTIFY A CERTAIN WAY OF THINKING ABOUT CUMULATIVE. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ADDITIONAL COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION . AS I MENTIONED FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT I WOULD TURN TO OUR PETITION APPLICANTS AND GRANT THEM THE FLOOR FOR A PERIOD OF TIME HERE I I WOULD GOOD EVENING. THANKS FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. I WOULD ASK YOU JUST ROUGHLY 10 MINUTES OR SO TO NOT EXCEED WHETHER THEY'RE SAME SLIDESHOW I IT'S KIND OF DAVID AGAINST GOLIATH ABOUT THE SLIDESHOW I THINK IF WE CAN PUT THE SIGNS UP AND IF YOU WANTED TO REFERENCE OUR SITE WELL HERE'S THE REASON WE WEREN'T THAT WE COULD SPEAK TONIGHT UNTIL THIS MORNING SO WE HAVE AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE BUT MAYBE JUST TO TALK IT OUT SO MY NAME DOUG HERZOG AND THANK YOU. I WISH THAT THERE COULD HAVE BEEN SOME OPEN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE COMMUNITY AROUND WAS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE THE PLANNING COMMITTEE AND IT NEVER HAPPENED. SO SOME OF THIS STUFF THAT NOW IS COMING UP TO BE EMERGENT HE MENTIONED HE DIDN'T GET THE EAW WORKSHEET UNTIL TWO DAYS BEFORE. WELL THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF STRUGGLING TO PUT IT TOGETHER AS BEST WE CAN. SO ONE THING ABOUT BLOOMINGTON IT'S ALWAYS BEEN VERY INCLUSIVE RIGHT. AND IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS. WE TALK ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS A PHASED OR A CONNECTED ACTION. BOTH OF THESE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN BROUGHT UP THE SAME AGENDA EVERYTHING IS THE SAME THE EXACT SAME TIME THE MAYOR REFERRED TO THEM AS WHAT DID WE SAY? SAY BOTH SIDES. YEAH, CLOSELY THEY WERE JUST YEAH YEAH SO CLOSELY YOU KNOW CLOSELY ARRAYED THEY'RE ALL LINKED. RIGHT AND SO IF WE'RE JUST TAKING THE BEST CASE SCENARIO OF 2500 SPECTATORS THAT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE BAND, THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS, THE COACHES, YOU KNOW, ALL THE ACCESSORY PEOPLE THAT ARE NEEDED A FOOTBALL GAME SO THAT BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM PUTS US OVER THE 5000 MARK RIGHT THERE. THE OTHER THING IS IF IT'S LEASED OUT OUTSIDE ENTITIES, WHERE ARE YOU AT THEN FOR NUMBER OF PEOPLE RIGHT THAT'S GOING TO PUT YOU AT OVER 5000 SO THAT MAKES IT AMANDA TORY YOU HAVE TO DO THE WORKSHEET ON IT BECAUSE IT GETS YOU AT OVER 5000 SORRY I'M NOT AS POLISHED AS THEY ARE AND DID YOU SAY YOU WANTED THE SLIDES UP DID YOU WANTED TO REFER TO THE SLIDES. CAN WE PUT THE SLIDES BACK UP PLEASE? WELL WHY DON'T I TALK AND THEN THEY CAN GO VERY GOOD. GOT TO WORK. OH SURE SURE. MR. MAYOR, COULD WE HAVE IDENTIFY THEMSELVES FOR THE RECORD PLEASE? YES. MY NAME IS DOUG HERZOG, BEEN A BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT FOR 58 YEARS. LINDSEY FREY, PALMQUIST CATHRYN BABCOCK UM YOU ANOTHER THING WE BELIEVE IS THAT BOTH SCHOOLS THEY HAVE AIR QUALITY PERMITS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO MORE STRINGENT ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS. IF I COULD ASK I MEAN WE'RE WE'RE THIS IS A SPECIFICALLY FOR THE KENNEDY STADIUM IF WE COULD KEEP THE COMMENTS FOR THE TOWARD SPECIFICALLY TOWARD THE KENNEDY STADIUM. WELL, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE THE JEFFERSON STADIUM IN THE NEXT SHIRT THAT BOTH SCHOOLS HAVE CURRENT AIR QUALITY LAWS THAT SUBJECT THEM TO MORE STRICT ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW BY BLOOMINGTON AND THE EAW WOULD TALK TO THAT AS WELL. SO IT SAYS THAT SECTION 7030.0030 NOISE CONTROL REQUIREMENT AND IT SAYS ANY HAVING AUTHORITY TO REGULATE LAND USE SHALL TAKE REASONABLE MEASURES WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION TO PREVENT ESTABLISH LAND USE ACTIVITIES TO EXCEED THE NOISE AREA CLASSIFICATION. AND SO VAN CLASSEN DID DO THE SOUND STUDY. IT WAS FUNNY BECAUSE WHEN WE DID THE PLANNING COMMISSION IT WAS ACTUALLY WALLED ARCHITECT THAT THAT CAN I TALK ABOUT THE SOUND STUDY PLEASE. OH SURE RUN OUT OF TIME. OH I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA HOLD US 8 TO 10 MINUTES SECOND THEY TALKED FOR ABOUT 25 MINUTES OR A HALF HOUR. THEY'RE THE STAFF THAT WAS THE STAFF PRESENTATION. PRESENTATION. YEAH. SO SO FOR THE VENUE CLASS AND NOISE STUDY I HAVE CONSULTED A RETIRED SOUND ENGINEER WHO SAID HE'S NEVER SEEN A STUDY SUBMITTED WITHOUT THE DATA AND ASSUMPTIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT WHICH WOULD BE LIKE THE GRID DATA THEY USE IN THE COMPUTER MODING. SO THERE WAS NO DISTANCE FROM HOUSE TO POINT OF SOURCE OF SOUND, NO DIRECTION FOR THOSE SOURCE OF SOUND. THERE IS NO WIND, HUMIDITY THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ALL IMPACT THE CARRYING OF SOUND, THE DIRECTION OF SOUND AND THEN ALSO BARRIERS WHICH WOULD BE ANY OF THE BUILDINGS ALONG THE SCHOOL OR THE HOUSES WHICH HAVE A REFLECTIVE EFFECT ON SOUND. SO WITHOUT THAT DATA IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR US AND I WOULD ARGUE YOU TO DECIDE WHETHER THAT SOUND MODEL IS ACCURATE. WE CAN'T SEE THE DATA. I TRIED TO GET IT SIX TIMES JUST TO SEE WHERE THEY WERE GETTING THESE NUMBERS FROM AND HOW THEY WERE GETTING THEM. WE HAVE THE METHODOLOGY AND WE HAVE NUMBERS RELATED TO PREVIOUS STUDIES BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL INPUT AND DATA THAT THEY USED IN THEIR MODEL RE DECIBELS AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE REFLECTION OF SOUND OF A BARRIER THAT SOUND THAT'S REFLECTED COMPOUNDS WITH THE SOUND THAT'S DIRECTED AND AS THREE DECIBELS WHICH ACTUALLY PUTS US OVER THE ALTERNATE BUR FOR ORDINANCES SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS OR I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S EITHER ENOUGH INFORMATION THE INFORMATION IS INCOMPLETE WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT IT OR THE TIME TO LOOK AT IT THAT HELP WARRANT THE REASON WE WANT TO HAVE ANY W ON THIS THERE'S ALSO THE IMPACT OF LIGHTING LOOKED ONLY REALLY AT THE UP LIGHTING WHICH THERE IS STILL BALL TRACKER LIGHTING AS TLC BT575 IS STILL ON THE PLANS THAT WERE REVISED FOR APRIL 3RD EVEN IF THEY HAD ELIMINATED THE BALL TRACKER LIGHTING THERE WOULD STILL BE A LIGHT DOME THAT WOULD CONNECT THESE TWO PROJECTS. THAT'S HOW WE SEE IT AS CONNECTED BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK TO STARRY PEOPLE, WHEN YOU TALK TO A STELLAR ASTRONOMER ASTRONOMY PEOPLE YOU TALK TO WEATHER PEOPLE THEY KNOW THAT THAT'S A CONNECTED THAT'S A VERY SMALL REGIONAL AREA. LIGHT IS A REGIONAL ISSUE. LIGHT IS NOT A BLOCK BY BLOCK ISSUE. THERE IS A LIGHT DOME THAT WILL FORM AND THAT IS GOING TO COMPLETELY CONNECT WITH THOSE AREAS. WATER IS A CONNECTED AREA. AIR POLLUTION IS A CONNECTED THEY'RE NOT SEPARATE, THEY'RE NOT SEGREGATED AND IT'S A VERY SMALL DISTANCE. IT'S ALSO WITHIN A MILE RADIUS OF THE MINNESOTA MIGRATORY CORRIDOR ALSO WITH THAT BALL TRACKER LIGHT THE PETITION THAT YOU RECEIVE, THE PETITION THAT YOU READ ALL DEALT WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS JUST SAID TONIGHT THE BALL TRACKER HAD ALREADY BEEN TAKEN AWAY BEFORE WE WROTE THAT PETITION THAT WAS AFTER THE BALL TRACKER AND THAT INCLUDES ONLY THE DOWN LIGHTS THE DOME THAT IS GOING TO BE OCCURRING EVERYTHING THAT HE'S TALKED ABOUT WE'VE ADDRESSED PAGE BY IN OUR RESEARCH WITH DOCUMENTATION SO FOR US TO GO THROUGH AND REITERATE EVERYTHING WE SAID YOU'VE GOT IT IN YOUR HANDS. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU HAVE ENOUGH. IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE TO READ THROUGH NOW AFTER THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE PLANNING DIVISION HAS SAID WHAT THEY'VE SAID NOW READ THROUGH THE PACKET AND THEN UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM. SPECULATION ABOUT WHAT THE MPCA WOULD FEEL THEY CAN'T SPECULATE ON THAT. YOU HAVE TO GET THE MPCA HERE TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES IF YOU NEED THAT INFORMATION. MAYBE WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION YET. THIS IS A LOT TO COMPREHEND AND A LOT TO SAY. NO TO IN JUST THE SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME WE'VE GOT TONIGHT. THERE'S A LOT ON THERE'S A LOT ON THE GROUND HERE. WHEN I SPOKE WITH THE SPEAKER ABOUT THE WATER IN THE WELLS OVER IN THE LYNDALE CORRIDOR, THEY SAID THAT THEY THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW GROUNDWATER WORKS IN RELATION TO DRINKING WATER YET IT'S SO SOPHISTICATED AND SO ELUSIVE TO THEM THAT THE CONTAMINATED GROUNDWATER BELOW THE LYNDALE CORRIDOR THEY DON'T KNOW HOW ANY KIND OF THAT MOVES IN FROM DRAINAGE OFF OF KENNEDY OFF OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS INTO THAT AREA WOULD AFFECT GROUNDWATER WATER SEEPING INTO THE DRINKING WATER WELLS THAT ARE BELOW IT. THESE ARE COMPLEX ISSUES THEY . THEY WANT TO GO FORWARD IN THEIR PROJECT. WE JUST WANT SOME OVERSIGHT. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS DONE SO THAT THE PEOPLE ARE SAFE. DOES IT CHANGE SOMETHING FOREVER? IT CHANGES SOMETHING FOREVER. THE LIGHTS AND THE SOUND HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE NOT IN THAT AREA. BIRDS HAVE SEEN IT. THE INSECTS HAVE NEVER SEEN IT. THE PEOPLE HAVE NEVER SEEN IT . IT'S IRREVERSIBLE. ONCE YOU PUT THOSE FOUR POLES UP WITH ALL THAT LIGHT AND THAT SOUND YOU THINK YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT BACK. ONE THING THEY DON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THE BALL TRACKER IS THE IS THE FLASHING COLORED LIGHTS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT ON THE STADIUM FOR AUTISTIC PEOPLE. OKAY. I ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY RELATED TO THE TRAFFIC SIDE, THEY SAID THAT IT WAS EXISTING TRIPS. WELL, NO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO GAMES THAT USED TO BE HELD FIGHTING FOR THAT ONE SPACE. THEY CAN NOW HAVE TWO GAMES ON THE SAME NIGHT AND. SO THERE IS EXTRA TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THAT AREA AND THERE IS EXTRA AIR POLLUTION COMING THROUGH ON THOSE IDLING CARS WHEREAS THEY USED TO SHARE THAT STADIUM. NOW THEY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS. I THINK WE STARTED THE CLOCK AT 5 MINUTES WHERE YOU CAN HAVE FIVE MORE MINUTES HERE WE'RE GOING TO CUT OFF TO CUT OFF YOUR PTSD OF WHAT ANYWAY. YEAH. SO THAT WAS ONE OTHER POINT ABOUT THE EVENTS AND THEN ALSO THE AUDUBON INTERACTIVE MAP FOR THE IMPORTANT BIRD AREA. YES, THAT GREEN SWATH IS THE ACTUAL IMPORTANT AREA. STOPOVER GROUNDS HOWEVER ARE WHAT BIRDS USE ALONG THEIR CORRIDORS TO FIND NESTING BREEDING FUEL ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO CONTINUE THEIR JOURNEY ON THEIR MIGRATORY PATH THOSE. STOPOVER GROUNDS ARE VERY MUCH NINE MILE CREEK ARE VERY MUCH HIGHLAND HILLS PARK AND I AS A PERSON WHO LOVES A BIRD CAN SHOW YOU AND YOU CAN LOOK AT EBIRD WHICH IS A CORNELL TRACKER FOR BIRDS THEY USE SITES AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BREED REFUEL IT IMPACTS THE SPECIES AND THERE'S THERE'S YEAH IN THE IN THE PETITION THERE ARE STUDIES THAT SHOW SO TONS OF STUDIES THAT SHOW THE IMPACTS ON THEM WHEN THEY CANNOT USE THEIR STOPOVER GROUNDS AND A DETERRENT FROM A STOPOVER IS ANTHROPOGENIC NOISE LIGHT ARTIFICIAL LIGHT AT NIGHT IN PARTICULAR AND SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THE MITIGATION NEEDED TO ENSURE THAT THESE LIGHTS ARE OFF AT CERTAIN POINTS DURING THESE MIGRATIONS WE'RE ASKING FOR THE LANDSCAPING MITIGATION TO ENSURE THE HABITATS ARE IMPROVED. WE'RE WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE MITIGATION LIKE WE CAN STILL HAVE THE STADIUM BUT WE NEED TO DO THE REVIEW THAT WE CAN GET THE MITIGATIONS IN PLACE. WE ALL LIVE IN THESE AREAS WHERE SO WE KNOW THERE'S BIRDS THERE THAT ARE ALSO MIGRATING WE GET THRUSHES THROUGH AND I'M LIVE RIGHT ON IN CHICOPEE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL ITSELF. WE HAVE THESE THINGS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE HAVE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE CONTIGUOUS IN BACKYARD GARDENS. YOU'VE PROMOTED THESE RAIN GARDENS. YOU'VE ALL PROMOTED NATIVE PLANTINGS. WE'RE MOVING THEM INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S A GREAT THING AND THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO HELP TO STOP THIS REVERSING THAT EFFECT. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS WILDLIFE WHEN I WAS A KID THERE WERE NO TRUMPETER SWANS AROUND HERE AND NOW WE HAVE TWO NESTING PAIRS AND I'VE SEEN THEM OVER ON THE KENNEDY SIDE AS WELL AND THAT WAS AN ENDANGERED SPECIES AND IT'S JUST STARTING TO COME BACK. SO TO SAY THAT IT WON'T IMPACT ANY OF OUR WATERFOWL I DON'T IS AN ACCURATE STATEMENT. YOU SHOULD JUST CHECK. YEAH. COUNCIL DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE HEARD THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WOMAN THANK YOU MARY IN TERMS OF THE GEOGRAPHICAL PIECE THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD IN TERMS OF THE SITE THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE SITES SO CAN YOU JUST HELP ME JUST UNDERSTAND HOW YOU SEE THESE AS PHASED YEAH. SO THE AIR SO THE LIGHTING CREATES WHAT WE CALL SKY GLOW. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LETTER I SENT IN TODAY TO FROM OUR STARRY SKY IS REPRESENTATIVE AND SKYDOME IS THE LIGHT EFFECT OVER ABOVE SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE TRYING TO SEE THE AURORAS REASON EXCUSE ME 1/2 IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO HAND OUT COULD PLEASE HAND IT TO THE COUNCIL SECRETARY SO A LOT OF PEOPLE COULD SEE THE AURORAS WHERE THEY LIVE IN DIFFERENT DARKER TOWNS. RIGHT. AND A LOT PEOPLE IN BLOOMINGTON COULD NOT SEE THOSE THINGS. SOME PEOPLE IN BLOOMINGTON COULD. BUT THAT IS THE KIND OF THING THAT YOU KNOW, THAT LIGHT DOME WHEREVER YOU LIVE CAN IMPACT. NOW THAT CARRIES AROUND A MILE AND A HALF, TWO MILES AT LEAST IN EACH DIRECTION. AND THEN I'M HERE THE DARK SKIES PERSON WE TALKED TO YOU SAID IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE OVERLAP IN THE MIDDLE WHICH IS THE NINE MILE CREEK AREA. SO THERE IS PLACES A WAYS OF LOOKING AT IT AND THAT WAY THERE'S ALSO IN THE WATER. YES, THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE WATERSHEDS BUT THE KENNEDY ONE GOES INTO THE NINE MILE WHICH GOES INTO THE LOWER MINNESOTA WATERSHED. SO THEY ARE STILL CONNECTED. LAKE THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS OF LOOKING AT IT. YES HAVE TO TECHNICALLY SEPARATE FIELDS BUT THE TRAFFIC THE WATER, THE AIR, THE LIGHT ALL THOSE THINGS DO CARRY. SO IT'S IT'S IT'S AGAIN LIKE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM IN THE INSTANCES WHERE THERE'S THE CROSSOVER MEETS POLLUTION IS REGIONAL AND LIVE IN A WORLD AND WE LIVE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT GREATER A GREATER VIEW THAN JUST THE MYOPIC SENSE OF THIS IS A KENNEDY THIS IS A JEFFERSON AND THERE'S THREE MILES IN BETWEEN ALL OF THIS IS CONNECTED. WE'VE GOT BIRDS MIGRATING FROM SOUTH AMERICA THROUGH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE MORE POINT THAT THEY KEEP QUOTING 2500 AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE BAND AND IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE FOOTBALL TEAM AND THE THE STAFF I MEAN THAT'LL GET YOU OVER THE 5000 WHICH IS A MANDATORY MARK RIGHT THERE. THEY'RE CONNECTED IF THEY'RE CONNECTED YES. YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND SPEAKING I KNOW IT CAN BE VERY NERVE WRACKING TO BE ON THAT SIDE OF THE PODIUM. SO SO YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT YOU'RE NECESSARILY AGAINST THE STADIUMS THAT YOU JUST WANT THE MITIGATION. SO WHY DO WE HAVE TO DO AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW? WHY DON'T WE JUST DO THE MITIGATIONS? BECAUSE NO ONE HAS WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND 50 YEARS FROM THE SCHOOL I MEAN THERE THERE ARE PEOPLE USE OF OTHER STADIUMS IN OTHER STATES AND SO WE KNOW WHAT THE MITIGATIONS ARE. SO WHY DON'T WE JUST LIKE WHY WHY WHY GO THROUGH PROCESS OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW? WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY HEY SCHOOL DISTRICT, CAN YOU PLEASE PUT THESE MITIGATIONS? I ASKED THAT NOVEMBER 2ND AND NOVEMBER 30TH AT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND SO NO RESPONSE AT ALL. OKAY. BUT THERE ARE THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST THE STADIUMS I MEAN THE 200 THE 200 SIGNATURES THAT WERE ON THE PETITION ARE JUST A FRACTION OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE YEAH. SOME RAISE THEIR VOICES AND SO THERE ARE THERE ARE MANY, MANY PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT THE STADIUM SHOULD HAVE JUST BEEN SAVED AT LINCOLN STADIUM AND A BIGGER, BETTER STADIUM BEEN BUILT WHICH MADE SENSE BECAUSE THE POPULATION IS DWINDLING. WE ONLY HAVE ENOUGH STUDENTS FOR ONE HIGH SCHOOL REALLY WE DON'T HAVE THE FINANCES AND THE MONEY. SO THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS WHY SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE STATEMENT SO IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE PETITIONERS VARYING OPINIONS ON THAT BUT I DID ASK ON THE SECOND AND THE 30TH BRINGING UP THE BIRD ISSUES WHAT WE COULD DO AND I'VE NEVER RECEIVED A RESPONSE SO I THINK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, THANK YOU. YES. THANKS FOR COMING, GUYS. I KNOW THIS IS A CHALLENGE AND EVERYBODY'S HEART'S IN THE RIGHT PLACE. WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM. I REALLY WANT YOU TO FEEL THAT WAY. I DON'T WANT YOU TO WALK OUT OF HERE SAYING YOU DIDN'T GET ENOUGH TIME OR YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO PREPARE. TRUST ME IT WAS HARD TO READ 2500 PAGES BUT I GOT IT DONE OVER THE WEEKEND BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL THINK I REALLY DO. I WILL. I WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS AND SO I'M NOT IN THIS THESE TEAMS NOT IN MY DISTRICT. ONE IS IN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S DISTRICT AND ONE OF THEM IS COUNCILMEMBER MEMBER REVIS IS DISTRICT BUT LINCOLN FIELDS IS IN MY DISTRICT. OKAY. WHAT I FIND REALLY AND THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE A CHALLENGE BUT AND AND I'LL LIMIT MY COMMENTS TO KENNEDY RIGHT NOW THERE'S ONLY 1.2 MILES BETWEEN LINCOLN STADIUM AND STADIUM THE PROPOSED KENNEDY STADIUM AND I'M IN THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN A COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN WATCHING COUNCIL SINCE I'VE LIVED IN THAT AREA ALMOST TEN YEARS NO ONE WHO LIVES AROUND LINCOLN STADIUM HAS EVER TO US AND SAID YOU'RE DOING DAMAGE TO THE THE ENVIRONMENT. YOU'RE DOING DAMAGE TO THIS, DAMAGE TO THAT. AND YOU ALL ARE SAYING TO US YOU WOULD PROPOSE THAT THEY BUILD A BIGGER, BETTER STADIUM RIGHT THERE WHEN IF YOU BELIEVE YOUR REGIONAL LIKE SENTIMENTS WHICH I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND AND 100% AGREE I SAW MY FIRST FIREFLY EVER IN MY YARD LAST YEAR I WAS SUPER EXCITED BECAUSE. I MISS THEM TERRIBLY. I GREW UP IN PENNSYLVANIA AND I HAD FIREFLIES EVERY DAY SO LIKE I COMPLETELY GET IT BUT THIS FEELS LIKE IT'S IT'S LESS ABOUT STADIUMS AND MORE ABOUT LIKE EXPLICITLY IN YOUR CASE BECAUSE YOU ARE JEFFERSON FOLKS DON'T DO IT IN MY BACKYARD AND I WANT TO ASK YOU TO ADDRESS THAT IF YOU CAN FOR ME BECAUSE THE LINCOLN FOLKS HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR 50 YEARS AND THEY'RE ONLY IT'S ONLY 2.7 MILES TO JEFFERSON, BY THE WAY. SO IT'S LESS DISTANCE BETWEEN LINCOLN AND JEFFERSON AND LINCOLN AND KENNEDY THAN BETWEEN KENNEDY AND JEFFERSON THEMSELVES. BUT WE DON'T HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THIS AND YOU ALL ARE NOT PROPOSING WE GET RID OF STADIUMS. YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT WE GO BACK AND BUILD BIGGER BETTER STADIUM IN LINCOLN AND I FIND THAT INTERESTING CONSIDERING YOUR ARGUMENTS TONIGHT. SO I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IT'S ONE POINT OF LIGHT VERSUS TWO POINTS OF LIGHT. THAT'S A FAIR COMMENT. I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT BUT IF YOU CAN THIS BIRD MIGRATIONS ARE BIRD MIGRATIONS AND I MEAN I JUST WOULD LOVE TO HELP YOU IF YOU CAN PLEASE TELL ME WHY WHAT THOSE FOLKS ARE DEALING WITH IS NOT A CONCERN. WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH MIGHT BE SO AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'VE HAD THEY HAVE THEIR COMMERCIAL AREA THERE, THE GAS STATION. THEY HAVE BEEN HAVING STADIUM NOISE AND LIGHT FOR DECADES AT THIS POINT SINCE AT LEAST THE SEVENTIES AS I UNDERSTAND IT. BUT THESE TWO AREAS HAVE NEVER HAD THIS SO BIRDS THE WILDLIFE, THE DUSK, EMERGENT SPECIES LIKE BATS, FIREFLIES THEY'VE NEVER HAD THE LIGHT OR THE NOISE OF EITHER OF THESE THINGS WHICH THE STUDIES SHOW ANTHROPOGENIC NOISE LATE AT NIGHT ESPECIALLY ARTIFICIAL LIGHT AT NIGHT DOES IMPACT THESE CREATURES. SO I WOULD SAY THE CREATURES UNFORTUNATELY USED TO IT OR HAVE ALREADY LEFT THE LINCOLN AREA. THESE TWO AREAS THEY'VE NEVER HAD THIS THAT THAT'S A FAIR COMMENT. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I WOULD ARGUE THAT WITH THE PROXIMITY TO FIVE W AND BOTH THE NOISE AND LIGHTING THAT EXISTS THERE PLUS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A MAJOR PARKING SORRY CAR DEALERSHIP AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT THAT IF AGAIN IF YOU THINK THAT IT'S ABOUT A REGIONAL CONCEPT AND NOT A VERY SPECIFIC ONE, THE KENNEDY FOLKS ARE IN THE SAME BOAT THAT THE LINCOLN FOLKS ARE IN ALREADY. WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY WE'RE CLOSER TO THE RIVER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT YOU'RE SAYING I'M TALKING WASHINGTON KENNEDY AND KENNEDY. YEAH. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT 98TH STREET IN NICOLLET DOESN'T HAVE BUBBLE PROBLEM BUT 98 LYNDALE IN 98 AND 35 W WHICH ARE LESS THAN A MILE AWAY. I'M SAYING THAT THE THE BECAUSE WE'RE CLOSER TO THE RIVER CORRIDOR THAN LINCOLN STADIUM IS BY TEN BLOCKS THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. YES, I AGREE WITH THAT. I DO AGREE WITH THAT. I WAS ADDRESSING THE COMMENTARY ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE COMMERCIAL AREAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AROUND LINCOLN THAT ALREADY CREATE THE THAT THE LIGHTING BUBBLE AND THERE IS DEFINITELY A LIGHTING BUBBLE AND EXISTS IN A IN A POINT BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MASSIVELY INCREASING THAT AND INCREASING THAT YOU KNOW ONWARDS FROM YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE MAIN STREET LIGHTING AND THINGS RATES LIKE ALMOST LIKE AMBIENT IT'S LIGHT THAT THEY'RE USED TO HAVING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1500 LUMENS ON FOUR POLES EACH THAT IS GOING TO BE INCREASED AFTER DUSK ALL THE WAY TO 10 P.M. THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE AMOUNT OF LIGHT THAT THESE CREATURES, WILDLIFE PEOPLE EVEN ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE RIGHT UP TO THAT POINT AT NIGHT. OKAY. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING WILLING TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS. I ALWAYS SOUND A LITTLE BIT MORE BLUNT THAN I INTEND TO BE. I'VE I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION BUT READING READING THE STUDIES THAT WE SUPPLIED MR. RIVAS READING THE STUDIES THAT WE SUPPLIED IN THE BOOK IN THE PETITION ARE VERY ILLUMINATING AND. I'M SORRY BUT YEAH YOU READ I APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING MY CONCERNS AND SOME BIRDS DO MAKE THEY THEY ADJUST THEIR BEHAVIOR AROUND SOME THOSE AREAS BUT SOME BIRDS DON'T AND THERE'S STUDIES ON BOTH OF THOSE THINGS VERY FAIR COUNCILMEMBER GIVE US QUESTIONS NOT JUST COMMENTS I GUESS I LIVE NEARBY. I YOU KNOW WHERE MR. RIVAS IS MY NEIGHBOR SO I CAN TELL YOU WITH CERTAINTY THAT AFTER A COUPLE OF BEERS I DON'T MIND THE NOISE AND THE LIGHT BUT WHEN I'M IN MY BACKYARD TRYING TO RELAX AND THERE'S A GAME OR SOMETHING HAPPENING AT THE SCHOOL LATE AT NIGHT IS BOTHERSOME BUT I GUESS WE HAD A TENDENCY TO GET USED TO CERTAIN THINGS. AS FOR THE ANIMALS I KEPT TRACK THE MILLIONS OF BIRDS THAT FLEW THROUGH THE SPRING THROUGH THE AREA I THERE WERE COUNTLESS NIGHTS THAT I WAS SITTING OUT THERE TRYING TO SEE IF I COULD HE DIDN'T FLY BY BUT YOU KNOW IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE SOMETIMES DO ONCE AND MAKE A LOT OF NOISE I GUESS SO I SORT OF THAT THE ROBINS FLYING BY I DID CLOSE TO 1,000,001 NIGHT I REMEMBER READING 800,000 BIRDS FLEW JUST OVER THE HOUSE. YEAH IT'S KIND OF AMAZING I NEVER GOT TO SEE THEM BUT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THE FACTS THAT THEY DO. I'M NOT AGAINST THE STADIUMS I CAN THAT BUT AT THE SAME TIME THE MITIGATION IF SOMETHING CAN BE WORKED OUT WITHOUT US HAVING TO VOTE ON THIS IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYBODY. BUT I WOULD KIND OF ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES THAT IF WE HAVE TO VOTE TO ENCOURAGE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE PLANNING DIVISION TO HAVE MORE STUDIES IN REGARDS TO THIS THAT WOULD GREAT. THANK YOU AGAIN IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION AND I MEAN THE STADIUMS WILL BE BENEFICIAL IN MANY WAYS BUT AT THE SAME TIME IF ANYTHING COULD BE DONE TO PREVENT OF SOMEHOW DIMINISHING THE HABITAT OR THE THE FLYWAYS OF THE BIRDS, IT WOULD BE GREAT. I THINK WE'RE PUSHING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE RIVER. YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL WITH CERTAINTY I SIT IN THE BACK YARD AND I CAN HEAR THAT NOISE AND IT'S VERY ANNOYING BUT LIKE I SAID A COUPLE OF DRINKS AND IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING COUNCIL MEMBER THE HAD THE PLEASURE OF HAVING A DRINK AND FORGETTING IT. ALL RIGHT AND THANK YOU ALL. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BRING UP THE FOLKS FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOWN MR. FOUR BOOGIE MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AS BABCOCK REFERENCED THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT IS IN THE PACKET AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THE COUNCIL TYPICALLY HAS TO REVIEW A PACKET. AND SO I DO JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY THAT AT THE MEETING ON MAY 20TH THE COUNCIL RECOGNIZED THAT AND OUR STAFF TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THERE WAS AN APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF TIME FOR REVIEWING THE VOLUMINOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION OUR STAFF SENT NOTIFICATION TO THE COUNCIL ON THURSDAY MAY 20TH HEARD THAT WE HAD UPLOADED ALL OF THAT INFORMATION ON A DEDICATED WEBSITE OR WEB PAGE ON OUR WEB SITE AND SO THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITIES HAD THE BENEFIT OF BEING ABLE TO SEE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION FOR MORE THAN TEN DAYS NOW 12 DAYS WHICH IS FAR IN EXCESS WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO WITH AN AGENDA PACKET. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY THAT THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN AVAILABLE AND THE TIME TO REVIEW THAT INFORMATION IS HAS BEEN APPROPRIATE. THANK MR. BROOKIE. I'D LIKE TO CALL UP NOW FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DR. JANET MITCHELL HER ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR. SO YEAH, I'M HERE TONIGHT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF BLOOMINGTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND I ALSO JUST LEARNED A LITTLE EARLIER TODAY THAT I'D BE SPEAKING TO ALL OF YOU SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FIRST OF ALL FOR HEARING FROM EVERYONE TONIGHT INCLUDING FROM US. WE DEFINITELY ALL HAVE A SHARED COMMITMENT TO THE WELL-BEING AND EDUCATION OF OUR COMMUNITY'S CHILDREN BECAUSE IT'S REALLY THE FOUNDATION UPON WHICH WE CONTINUE TO BUILD A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON . SO A COUPLE OF PREPARED NOTES HERE I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU AND THOSE ARE ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE SUPERINTENDENT AND BLOOMINGTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS. AND I'LL JUST START BY SAYING WE RECOGNIZE THE CRITICAL ROLE YOU ALL PLAY AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IN SHAPING THE POLICIES AND CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT THAT SUPPORTS THE GROWTH AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR STUDENTS. WE REMAIN STEADFAST IN BLOOMINGTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND OUR BELIEF AND SUPPORT FOR THE STADIUM FACILITY AT KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL. OUR PROPOSED PLANS ARE WELL WITHIN THE INTENDED USES FOR SCHOOL ZONING AND WILL POSITIVELY IMPACT OUR STUDENTS AND THE SCHOOL COMMUNITY. THE NEW STADIUM FACILITY WILL ENHANCE SCHOOL SPIRIT. IT WILL IMPROVE OUR ATHLETIC PROGRAMS. IT WILL PROVIDE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND ULTIMATELY IT WILL BENEFIT BENEFIT OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR COMMUNITY. OUR STUDENTS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON DESERVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AND FACILITIES THAT OTHER SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE METRO AREA ENJOY. MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORING SCHOOLS ALREADY HAVE MORE MODERN STADIUMS THAT BOOST THEIR ATHLETIC PROGRAMS, THEIR SCHOOL SPIRIT AND THEIR ENROLLMENT WHICH IS SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY ARE LOOKING TO DO IN BLOOMINGTON AS WELL. IT'S TIME THAT WE PROVIDE OUR STUDENTS WITH THE SAME ADVANTAGES SO WE HOPE THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TOWARDS ENHANCING THE EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES AND ENSURING THAT OUR STUDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO THE BEST POSSIBLE ACADEMIC AND ATHLETIC ENVIRONMENTS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. SO THANK YOU AGAIN TONIGHT FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU DR. MITCHELL COUNTY COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS OF DR. METZLER COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN COUNCILMEMBER AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON? COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU MAYOR AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING BEING PRODUCT OF BLOOMINGTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS. I GET IT. JUST REALLY JUST ONE QUESTION FOR YOU WITH RESPECT TO THESE STADIUMS. IF YOU WERE ONLY ABLE TO BUILD ONE OF THEM, WOULD THERE BE AN IMPACT? WELL, CERTAINLY WE IN BLOOMINGTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS LOOK AT INCLUSIVE CITY AND WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL OF OUR STUDENTS REGARDLESS OF WHICH SCHOOL THAT THEY ATTEND. WE DO VIEW THESE THESE TWO STADIUMS AS SEPARATE PROJECTS AND SO WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ONE GROUP OF STUDENTS AND NOT OTHERS BUT DO VIEW THEM AS SEPARATE PROJECTS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU SO SIMILAR TO THE QUESTION THAT I ASKED THE PETITIONERS IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECT TO KIND OF MITIGATE THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS IN ADDITION TO WORKING WITH PLANNING TO ADDRESS NOISE AND LIGHTING AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP? YEAH, YOU CAN HEAR SOME OF THE EXAMPLES WITH THE LIGHTING THAT WE HAVE THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED ALREADY. I JUST I'M GOING TO TURN AROUND AND LOOK AT OUR ONE OF OUR ARCHITECTS WHO'S HERE WITH US TONIGHT CONSULT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE HE MIGHT WANT TO SHARE. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. IF YOU COULD IDENTIFY YOURSELF . SURE. I'M PAUL KOSKI WITH MOLD ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS. WE ARE OF COURSE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO MITIGATE EVERYTHING IN THE PROJECTS AND THEY AND HOW THEY AFFECT THE CITY. SO THERE'S A NUMBER ORDINANCES AND STATE LAWS AND YOU'RE YOUR TEAM AND YOU'RE YOU'RE ALL OF YOUR ZONING ORDINANCES ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THOSE THINGS. AND AGAIN, AS YOU MAY KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN THE PROJECT TO BE WITHIN COMPLIANCE. WE ORIGINALLY DIDN'T THINK WE COULD DO THAT BUT AGAIN WITH THE COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY WE'VE MANAGED TO GET LIGHTING AND SOUND TO BE WITHIN COMPLIANCE. SO I WOULD SAY EMPHATICALLY YES WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE KNOW EXIST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. THANK YOU, MAYOR. MAYBE JUST FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, YOU ALSO WORKING WITH THE CONCERNED PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS FRANKLY I MET WITH THEM PRIOR TO THE PREVIOUS PLANNING COMMISSION AND THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR FRUSTRATIONS AND I HEARD THAT FRUSTRATION AGAIN TODAY. THEY JUST THEY HAVEN'T BEEN WORKED WITH AND THEY HAVE CONCERNS AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR CERTAIN MITIGATIONS AND IT LIKE WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU'RE OPEN TO DOING AS MUCH AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN BUT THEY'RE NOT HEARING THIS AND SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DISCONNECT IS THERE AND IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIX THAT DISCONNECT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE OUR AIM IS TO FIX ANY DISCONNECTS IN COMMUNICATION THAT MIGHT EXIST. WE CERTAINLY ALWAYS ARE OPEN TO AND WANT TO HEAR FROM ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE PEOPLE WE SERVE IN BLOOMINGTON IN BLOOMINGTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS. AND SO WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE LINES OF COMMUNICATION LIKE THAT. YES. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, THANK YOU. MAYOR. I JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT QUESTION I GUESS HOW BUILDING THE STADIUM IS HELP THE STUDENTS ACADEMICALLY. I MEAN AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A VERY TANGIBLE EXPLANATION OF THAT BECAUSE AS FAR AS I I CAN SEE A YEAH, IT CREATES OPPORTUNITY FOR SPORTS AND ALL OF THAT BUT I WITH THE SCHOOLS IN BLOOMINGTON ARE NOT I WISH I COULD SAY THEY'RE THE BEST OUT THERE BUT THEY'RE NOT AND WE ALL KNOW THAT IS A FACT . SO HOW BUILDING TWO STADIUMS WILL HELP THE STUDENT FALLING BEHIND ACADEMICALLY AND EXCUSE ME DOCTOR MITCHELL, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO ANSWER THAT. BUT I ALSO WANT TO REMIND THE COUNSELOR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PETITION ABOUT AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET RIGHT HERE. WE GOT TO I THINK WE HAVE TO STICK ON THE TOPIC RIGHT NOW. WE COULD GO WE COULD GO A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS VERY QUICKLY IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL. SO WHY DON'T WE ASK THIS QUESTION BUT LET'S MAKE SURE WE STICK TO OUR OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET DISCUSSION. THEY ARE IN MY BELIEF I THINK IT HAS AN EFFECT ON EVERYTHING AS WELL AS THE ENVIRONMENT. I WOULD SAY THAT THE INVESTMENT COULD BE MADE ON IMPROVING THE ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE OF OUR SCHOOLS WHETHER THEY'RE BUILDING THE STADIUMS AND A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE THAT BELIEF ALSO SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GET AN ANSWER ON THAT IF POSSIBLE AT ALL AND AND WE CAN WE CAN ANSWER THIS ONE. BUT AS I SAID, I I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STICK TO THE TO THE QUESTION AT HAND HERE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNCILMEMBER. AND WHAT I WOULD SHARE IS YOU KNOW, I HAVE MYSELF AND I HAVE HEARD OTHERS HAVE A SEMANTICS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CALL SOME OF THE PROGRAMING THAT WE OFFER FOR OUR STUDENTS AND SO, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY WE'VE CALLED THINGS EXTRACURRICULARS ON TOP OF THE CURRICULAR OFFERINGS. REALLY WHAT THEY ARE IS COCA REGULAR OFFERINGS BECAUSE WE TRULY BELIEVE THAT STUDENTS HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED IN ACTIVITIES SPORTS IT IT IMPROVES THEIR SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL ABILITIES IT IMPROVES THEIR CONNECTION AND RELATIONSHIP WITH ONE ANOTHER THEIR SENSE OF BELONGING AND THAT THOSE THINGS IMPACT THE ACADEMICS AS WELL. WHAT I WILL SAY ABOUT THE STADIUMS IS THAT WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM OUR ATHLETIC DIRECTORS AND OUR PRINCIPALS IS THAT FOR STUDENTS IS A CHALLENGE WHEN THEY HAVE TO GET TO A STADIUM THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THEIR SCHOOL ATTENDANCE AREA OR FURTHER THEIR THEIR HOME WHEREAS STUDENTS FOR EXAMPLE IN THE KENNEDY COMMUNITY WOULD BE HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY PERHAPS TO WALK TO THE STADIUM TO BE A PART OF THE WHATEVER EVENT IS HAPPENING THERE ON ON ANY GIVEN DAY FIGURE. I STILL BELIEVE THAT IF IT GIVES THEM THE TO PARTICIPATE YES. BUT NOT THE AFFORDABILITY IN MANY, MANY CASES. THAT'S A REASON WHY A LOT OF THE STUDENTS ON PARTICIPATE IN SPORTS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO DO SO. SO THANK YOU THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC THANKS BEING HERE BY THE WAY? I APOLOGIZE THAT THIS IS TOUGH FOR EVERYBODY. RIGHT. SO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S WILLINGNESS TO WORK THROUGH THIS. IS THERE ARE THERE SPECIFIC MITIGATION MEASUREMENTS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT EITHER THROUGH THE PETITION REVIEW OR THROUGH CONVERSATIONS HAD WITH THE PUBLIC OR AMONG YOURSELVES THAT YOU ARE INTENDING TO IMPLEMENT THAT MIGHT NOT BE CURRENTLY ON THE PLAN ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE COME UP WITH YOURSELF THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE OR ANYTHING THAT HELPS LESSEN MAYBE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE EITHER HEARING OR HAVE HEARD THROUGH PETITION. THANK YOU. COUNCIL I THINK I WOULD ASK AGAIN FOR MY FRIEND PAUL TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE. OKAY. WE DON'T ANYTHING TO SHARE THEN. THANK YOU. OKAY IT LIKE YOU MIGHT BE OPEN TO THAT I RECOGNIZE THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US IS THAT YOU ARE MR. MAYOR, I THINK I HEARD THIS THAT THEY HAVE DONE WHAT THEY COULD DO TO MEET T REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US. IN FRONT OF THEM RIGHT. THE WITHOUT AND I MENTIONED THIS EARLIER WITHOUT US ADDING MORE REQUIREMENTS TO OUR CODE WE CAN'T HOLD YOU AGAINST THOSE THINGS AND DENY YOU ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE CODE AND YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR CODE . I WOULD ASK YOU TO TRY TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND RIGHT ESPECIALLY ON ENVIRONMENTAL GROUNDS BECAUSE THE ENTIRE WITH SOMETHING THESE THIS LARGE AND WITH THESE KIND OF IMPLEMENTATIONS THAT ARE PERMANENT THAT ARE MEANT TO BE THERE FOR 30 YEARS SO THAT STUDENTS CAN MAKE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM IN MY OPINION EVEN IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT ALMOST MORALLY IS AN OBLIGATION TO TRY GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT'S SPECIFICALLY WRITTEN IN CODE RIGHT? SO TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN I WOULD SUGGEST YOU MAYBE CAN BRING BACK SOME THINGS WE MIGHT BE DELIGHTED YOU KNOW WITH SOME OF THE IDEAS YOU COME UP WITH ESPECIALLY WITH SMART ARCHITECTS ON DECK WHO PROBABLY KNOW THE LATEST AND GREATEST IN LEAD AND OTHER CERTIFICATIONS. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER WHAT THEY ARE JUST ONE KIND OF SPECIFIC QUESTION HOW OFTEN ARE THE TWO HIGH SCHOOLS HAVING EVENTS CONCURRENTLY BECAUSE AS I'M SITTING HERE AND DIGGING THROUGH THEIR SCHEDULES WE HAVEN'T HAD AN INTEREST CITY FOOTBALL GAME SINCE 2018. WE DON'T HAVE OVERLAPPING TRACK MEETS WE DON'T HAVE THERE BUT AS I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE BOTH IN DIFFERENT CONFERENCES HOW OFTEN CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW IN THE FUTURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BOTH STADIUMS GOING AT THE SAME TIME YEAH I DON'T HAVE EXACT NUMBERS WITH ME HERE TONIGHT BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS I ANTICIPATE THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE ANY MAJOR CHANGES WHERE WE WOULD HAVE MANY MORE FOR EXAMPLE HOME GAMES THAN WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST FOR FOOTBALL TEAMS BECAUSE MY MY ONE CONCERN IS AND I GREW UP IN A TOWN THAT HAD TWO HIGH SCHOOLS AND THAT INTER-CITY RIVALRY IS AND IT'S BIG AND WE HAD ONE STADIUM THAT WAS AN ISLAND SO IT WASN'T BY ANY NEIGHBORS IT WASN'T AN ISSUE. BUT EVEN THEN WHEN IT WAS AN INTRA CITY GAME THE PARKING LOT OVERFLOWED FOR PROBABLY TWO MILES. AND SO THAT IS A CONCERN THAT I WOULD HAVE IF WE'RE HAVING THOSE INTRA CITY BECAUSE I THINK THAT BUILDS COMMUNITY BUT THAT ALSO PRESENTS ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS . COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO SORRY, CAN I ASK COUNCILMEMBER MORE JUST QUICK CLARIFICATION WHEN YOU SAY INTER-CITY, DO YOU MEAN JEFFERSON AND KENNEDY PLAYING EACH OTHER? CORRECT. OKAY. THANKS. AND THE QUESTIONS OF THE ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU MUCH. THANK YOU. SO COUNCIL WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE HEARD INFORMATION WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION IN FRONT US THAT WE'VE HAD FOR UP TO TEN DAYS AS I UNDERSTAND A MORE THAN THAT EXACTLY AND BUT IT WAS A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION AND A LOT TO CONSIDER ON THIS AND ONE WAY OR ANOTHER I LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS AND IF WE HEAD DOWN THE ROAD OF DENIAL WE NEED FINDINGS OF FACT. WE NEED WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FRAME UP IN A FINDING OF FACT . AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE I MEAN WE UNDERSTAND AND RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS NOT THE DECISION ON THE FINAL SITE PLAN. THIS IS NOT WHETHER OR NOT THE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE GIVEN LAND USE APPROVAL. THIS IS WHETHER OR NOT AN EAW AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET WOULD BE NECESSARY BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. SO GOT TO MAKE SURE WE WE WE FOCUS ON ON THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND COUNCILMEMBER AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. YOU MAYOR I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS NOT FOR THE PART THEY WERE STANDING THERE BUT PEOPLE BROUGHT STUFF UP THAT I WANT TO ASK OUR STAFF ABOUT. THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT AIR QUALITY STANDARDS AT BOTH OF THE HIGH. I ASSUME THIS PROJECT HAS TO MEET WHATEVER THOSE STANDARDS ARE. IS THAT ACCURATE AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE LOOKED AT? SURE. MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER, AS YOU IT'S IT IS CERTAINLY NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTIZE BUT AS PART OF ANY BUILDING PROJECT THERE ARE THERE ARE A VARIETY OF BUILDING CODES THAT HAVE TO BE MET. YOU KNOW, THE STADIUMS THEMSELVES ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT CAUSE EMISSIONS ARE BUILDINGS YOU KNOW, OF HEATING COOLING SYSTEMS THAT HAS HAS ITS OWN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND WAS BEING PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT IS BLEACHERS EFFECTIVELY SO THERE ISN'T THAT HEATING OR COOLING SYSTEM THAT COULD CONTRIBUTE EMISSIONS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MITIGATED BUT IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL REQUIREMENTS THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS TO FOLLOW, I'M JUST NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEM. OKAY. MAYBE COULD I ASK THAT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IF THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH THEM AND IF THEY BELIEVE THEIR PLAN COMPLIES WITH THAT OR OR ANYONE FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT ONE? WE WE DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE IT UP AND TRY TO FIND SOME ANSWERS FOR YOU ALL. TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE THERE'S NOT A SEPARATE SET OF AIR QUALITY REGULATIONS FOR SCHOOLS OTHER THAN THE MECHANICAL CODE AND THE BOILER PLANTS AND GENERATORS HAVE SOME REGULATION BUT IN GENERAL THERE'S NOT A DIFFERENT CODE FOR SCHOOLS THAT I'M AWARE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I DID I DID SEE YOUR HAND UP, PLEASE. UM, JUST BECAUSE I WAS IN TOUCH WITH LAUREN DICKERSON OF THE MPCA ABOUT THIS AND SHE'S THE ONE WHO IDENTIFIED THE TWO AIR QUALITY PERMITS AT THE SCHOOLS AND I BELIEVE THEY ARE AGE FACT RELATED SO I THINK IT'S REGARDS TO THE CONCESSIONS BUILDINGS THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED AND POSSIBLE HEATING AND COOLING IN THOSE BUILDINGS. I CAN FORWARD YOU THE INFORMATION THAT SHE SENT ON THE AIR QUALITY PERMIT AND THERE'S THE CONCERN THAT A CONCESSIONS BUILDING WOULD YOU KNOW IT'S JUST THAT THE EXISTING AIR QUALITY PERMITS THAT THE TWO SCHOOLS HAVE MAKE THE IPCA THE REGULATORY AUTHORITY FOR ANY OF THE AIR QUALITY OF WHICH NOISE IS RELATED SO ANY VIOLATIONS WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE MPCA UPON REPORTING THIS. I UNDERSTAND IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN SECOND QUESTION IS STAFF AGAIN YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT MITIGATIONS AND AND WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE DONE AND THAT SORT OF THING DOES THE EAW REQUIRE ANY MITIGATIONS IF IT HAD FINDINGS OF ANY SORT DOES IT REQUIRE ANYTHING OR WAS IT JUST BE INFORMATION AND IF THE PLAN MET STATE LAW CITY CODES WATERSHED DISTRICT RULES POTENTIALLY AND PCI RULES WOULD MET ALL OF THOSE. SURE. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS I THINK I THINK IT COULD THERE THERE'S BEEN TWO WS IN THE CITY WITHIN THE LAST TEN PLUS YEARS. AND SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WE DEAL WITH THAT OFTEN. BUT I THINK THE PURPOSE OF THE A.W. IS TO IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE POTENTIAL IMPACTS COULD BE AND THEN YOU KNOW IDENTIFY MITIGATION FACTORS COULD BE TO ADDRESS THEM THE THE CODE REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE WHETHER IT'S NOISE LIGHTING, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT THOSE ARE MITIGATION FACTORS. YOU KNOW, THE THE THE ALTERNATIVE IS TO NOT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND YOU HAVE MORE GLARE YOU HAVE THAT IMPACTS PEACEFUL ENJOYMENT OF YOUR PROPERTY YOU HAVE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT THAT CONTRIBUTES TO ADDITIONAL RUNOFF FLOODING. SO THE CODES THAT WE HAVE ARE MITIGATION FACTORS, SOME OF THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. GOOD. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER LEMON EMERY, GET A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND THEN AFTER THAT I'VE GOT A PROCESS SUGGESTION FOR HIM THERE MAYBE ALREADY HAVE SOME IDEAS SORT OF IN TERMS OF THIS THE STAFF REPORT. CAN YOU JUST TELL ME HOW THIS WAS PREPARED WAS ANY SUSTAINABILITY STAFF MEMBER A PART OF THE CONVERSATION OR IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER? MR. BROWN COUNCILMEMBERS OTHER WAS NOT I WAS THE I WOULD SAY THE PRIMARY AUTHOR IN CONJUNCTION WITH MR. TUSK AND REALLY IT FOCUSED ON THE ELEMENTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED THE PETITION THEMSELVES AND HOW THEY RELATED TO HOW WE FELT THAT IT RELATED TO CODE REQUIREMENTS AND ESSENTIALLY OUR RESPONSE TO THE POINTS THAT WERE RAISED IN THE PETITION AND THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL OF ACROSS THE STATE OF HOW THIS WOULD BE HANDLED RIGHT I MEAN BECAUSE MOST CITIES DON'T HAVE SUSTAINABILITY OF STAFF. RIGHT. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE TRUE. I THINK IN AS IT RELATES TO LIKE A LAND USE APPLICATION THIS WAS YOU KNOW THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE A PLANNING DEPARTMENT I THINK THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO TAKE A LEAD OR USE A CONSULTING PLANNER TO KIND OF DRAFT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE PREPARED IN IS THAT WHAT WE DID WITH THE THE WORK THAT WE DID IN IN THE SOUTH LOOP DO WE FOLLOW THAT SAME PROCESS WITH THAT JUST JUST JUST SOME KNOWLEDGE OR. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER IS THAT ACTUALLY THERE WAS A VERY DETAILED ENVIRONMENTAL REPORTS A YOU AIR AND THAT IS AS I UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE I LIMITED KNOWLEDGE BUT A HYBRID BETWEEN THE AND AN EAST AND SOUTH OF DISTRICT THAT'S WHERE WE THE MOST INTENSE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY WHERE WE ANTICIPATE THE MAJORITY OF OUR GROWTH AND SO THAT ABSOLUTELY PATH SURPASSED ANY SORT OF THRESHOLD ESTABLISHED BY THE STATE AND SO WE FOLLOWED THE STATE'S PROCESS IN ESTABLISHING AN AIR TO IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE IMPACTS COULD BE. THANKS FOR THAT. SO THEN WITH REGARDS TO THIS NOISE STUDY, I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NOISE HAVING SERVED ON THE ON THE NOT COMMISSION FOR SEVERAL YEARS, THE FACT THAT THE INFORMATION WASN'T THERE OF YOU KNOW, DOES THAT GIVE THE STAFF ANY PAUSE WITH THAT? HAVE SEEN THAT BEFORE IN OTHER OTHER PROCESSES. MR. MAYOR, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMEMBER WE'RE THE PROJECT PLANNER IN A FEW PROJECTS THAT HAD NOI STUDIES AND I'VE NOT SEEN THE THE DATA THAT'S BEING REFERRED TO LIKE THE RAW DATA FROM THE MODELING. I'M NOT EXPERIENCED HAVING THAT BEFORE. JUST JUST THE LAST TIME I RECALL I DON'T GET I WON'T GO BACK AND FORTH BUT I JUST RECALL THE LAST TIME WE HAD THE ONE BUILDING THAT WAS OVER HERE I THOUGHT THAT THAT STUFF WAS IT WAS INCLUDED WHEN WHEN THE WHEN THE RESIDENTS WERE WERE UPSET ABOUT IT. I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHERE IT WAS SOMEWHERE. YEAH VERIZON I THINK IT WAS A RISING PIECE I THOUGHT I REMEMBER SEEING IT IN THERE WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH ON ON THAT. THAT JUST SEEMED STRANGE THAT THAT DATA WASN'T THERE. THE FINAL PIECE ON THIS THAT I HAD A QUESTION FOR IS AROUND THE YOU KNOW, THIS IDEA OF OF A LIGHTING DOME KIND OF GOING BETWEEN BOTH OF BOTH SCHOOLS CREATING, YOU KNOW, ONE SITE IN A SENSE. THE STAFF HAVE ANY COMMENT AROUND THAT AT ALL OR ARE YOU THINKING THAT OR AM I KIND OF LEFT ON MY OWN TO KIND OF DETERMINE? MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE VERY DETAILED LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS AND KNOW I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO COMPARE THE THE LIGHTING THAT ARE AT LINCOLN TODAY AND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT NOW. LINCOLN THEY'RE THE MORE TRADITIONAL FLOOD STYLE LIGHTS THAT HAVE NO SHIELDING AND SO THE AMOUNT OF GLARE AND LIGHT POLLUTION AT LINCOLN TODAY IS FAR MORE THAN WHAT WOULD EXIST WITH THE PROPOSED STADIUM IN TERMS OF THE LIGHT DOME. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW THAT'S DETERMINED OR WHAT WHAT PROCESSES THEY USE TO DETERMINE THAT. WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ON THE GROUND LIGHTING OR ILLUMINATION THAT WOULD EXIST FROM THE PROPOSED SITE AS GET LESS THAN YOU KNOW ESSENTIALLY IT'S ALMOST ZERO ACROSS THE STREET IN THE CASE OF THIRD AVENUE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FIXTURES ARE SHIELDED, TO MINIMIZE GLARE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT TO ENSURE THAT LIGHT TRESPASS IS VERY LIMITED ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES GO OH I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY A PROCESS PIECE. I WONDER AS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS MENTIONED EARLIER THIS IDEA OF HAVING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PHASING IN THE THE CONNECTEDNESS OF IT AS IT MAKES SENSE TO KIND OF START THERE AND THEN WORK OUR WAY DOWN TO THE IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING THERE I JUST I WAS I WAS I WAS WAITING FOR EVERYONE TO GET THEIR QUESTIONS ALL THEIR COMMENTS OUT AND THEN PERHAPS EVERYBODY START TO THINK ABOUT WHERE YOU MIGHT END UP ON THIS AND AND I'M HAPPY TO KICK IT OFF AND I APPRECIATE THE I APPRECIATE THE STAFF PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE RESIDENTS. I APPRECIATE FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE. AS I SAID IN LISTENING TO IT ALL AND READING COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF INFORMATION AND KIND OF PONDERING THIS AND THEN ALSO JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT WHAT TALKING ABOUT HERE AS SOMEBODY WHO LIVES WITHIN SOUND DISTANCE OF OF OF THE OLD LINCOLN SITE RIGHT NOW I JUST AGAIN WHILE I APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I JUST CAN'T AGREE WITH WITH A NUMBER OF THE CONTENTIONS THAT THEY MAKE I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS A SINGLE PROJECT. THEY ARE THREE MILES APART SEPARATED BY A FREEWAY. I THINK THE NOTION THAT THEY ARE IN TWO DIFFERENT WATERSHEDS IT SAYS A LOT I MEAN IS THAT THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE AREAS. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE A SINGLE THEY'RE A SINGLE PROJECT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED MEET THE THRESHOLD OF BEING PERMANENT DAMAGE. I MEAN WE LIVE IN A CITY WITH WITH THE HIGHLAND SKI, WITH THE AIRPORT, WITH THE MALL AMERICA WITH A FREEWAY RUNNING RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE, A FREEWAY RUNNING ACROSS THE NORTHERN EDGE AND A FREEWAY ON THE ON THE WESTERN EDGE THERE IS THERE COULD POSSIBLY BE PERMANENT DAMAGE. I DON'T SEE A HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL STADIUM, A HIGH SCHOOL SOCCER STADIUM, LACROSSE STADIUM THAT'S USED FRANKLY FIVE TIMES. I MEAN I THINK YOU THINK OF A HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL HOME SCHEDULE. IT'S MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE GAMES A YEAR, 40 TIMES. EXCUSE US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I JUST DON'T SEE THE NUMBER OF TIMES THIS WOULD BE USED IN THE EVENING CREATING A DISTRACTION, CREATING A DISRUPTION, CREATING A LIGHT DOME THAT IS IN ANY WAY IMPACTFUL IN A NEGATIVE SENSE. I JUST DON'T I JUST DON'T SEE IT ANY MORE THAN WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND SO I AGREE THE I AGREE WITH THE NOTION THAT THE TWO FOOTBALL FIELDS PROBABLY HAVE LESS IMPACT THAN THE SINGLE FOOTBALL FIELD, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE PARKING UP AROUND THE LINCOLN FIELD AND CONSIDERING WHERE THAT IS AND HAVING THE TWO SEPARATE ALLOWING THE STUDENTS ALLOWING THE FAN BASE IS ALLOWING THE COMMUNITIES TO TO BE IN THEIR OWN AREA WHEN THEY GO TO A A HOME GAME A HOME EVENT OF SOME KIND. I THINK JUST OUTWEIGHS ANY OF THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVES OF THIS. AND IF I MEAN IF I KNOW THE THE MITIGATIONS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE POSSIBLE MITIGATIONS I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CONTINUE THOSE AND CONTINUE LOOKING AT THOSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. BUT I JUST I CANNOT SEE ENOUGH OF . I CANNOT AGREE WITH THE POSSIBLE NEGATIVE IMPACTS. TO THE POINT THAT WE WOULD DENY OR THAT WE WOULD APPROVE PETITION AND MOVE FORWARD WITH AN EAW. I JUST DON'T THINK IT MEETS THAT THRESHOLD. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I JUST WANT TO START BY THANKING EVERYBODY WHO HAS ENGAGED ON THIS ISSUE, THE PETITIONERS. BUT WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF EMAILS AND A PETITION FROM PEOPLE WHO WANT THE STADIUM SO IT DEFINITELY HAS GENERATED A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE AND SO JUST REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY HAS WEIGHED IN . AND SO AS I KIND OF THINK ABOUT THE MAJOR ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP FIRST THE NOISE ISSUE I AM ONE I DO TRUST THE EXPERTS ANALYSIS WAS IT WE DIDN'T FIND SOME RANDOM COMPANY RIGHT IT WAS A A REPUTABLE COMPANY THAT DOES THIS WORK. ALSO I LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THE LINCOLN FOOTBALL FIELD. I HEAR THE FOOTBALL GAMES ON FRIDAY NIGHTS AND IT DOES NOT BOTHER ME ONE BIT. WE ACTUALLY SIT OUTSIDE IN THE BACKYARD TO HEAR THE CROWD LIKE IT'S VERY IT JUST MAKES ME FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A COMMUNITY AND I'VE NEVER HEARD MY NEIGHBORS COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS LIVES HER HOUSE BUTTS RIGHT UP AGAINST THE COMPANY IN THE STADIUM AND SHE'S LIKE NOPE IT'S TOTALLY I MEAN LIKE PEOPLE JUST LIKE LORNA SAID EARLIER, WE'VE HEARD NOBODY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE LINCOLN STADIUM AND I AGAIN I LIVE RIGHT BY IT UM AS IT RELATES TO THE LIGHTING YOU KNOW I FEEL LIKE IT SOUNDS LIKE NOW THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE THE PLANS ARE IN COMPLIANCE AND I WOULD SAY OBVIOUSLY THEY NEED TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE. THE POINTS ABOUT A LIGHT DOME I MEAN I LIVED IN RURAL IOWA FOR A LONG TIME AND I COULD SEE THE STARS. WHAT WE SEE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON ARE NOT STARS. THEY'RE AIRPLANES. RIGHT. LIKE WE WE WE HAVE GIANT DOME OVER BLOOMINGTON AND THAT'S WHY ALMOST NOBODY COULD SEE THE AURORA RIGHT. WE HAD TO DRIVE OUT OF THE CITIES SO I JUST CAN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND ONE STADIUM CREATING SO MUCH MORE OF A DOME. AND I LOOKED UP I LOOKED UP THE NIGHT SKY MAP I THINK YOU CAN GOOGLE IT WHERE BLOOMINGTON PURPLE RIGHT LIKE IT'S ONE COLOR YOU NOW WE HAVE SO MUCH LIGHT POLLUTION THAT I CAN'T SEE THAT A STADIUM WOULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE AND SPECIFICALLY FOR KENNEDY I MEAN THAT'S ALREADY AN AREA WITH A LOT OF LIGHT POLLUTION TRAFFIC AND PARKING OBVIOUSLY NOW AND COMPLIANCE BUT I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR IT HEAVILY AND THEN AS IT RELATES TO THE ANIMALS AND THE ENVIRONMENT, YOU KNOW I THINK IF THIS THE FACT IS WE'RE IN A BUILT OUT COMMUNITY, RIGHT? LIKE WE DON'T HAVE WE DON'T GET TO GOBBLE UP A CORNFIELD AND BUILD A NEW SCHOOL AND PUT IN A NEW STADIUM LIKE SOME OF OUR OTHER SUBURBS DO WE TO USE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE OR WE COULD ACTUALLY BUILD UPON LIKE OUR ACTUAL NATURAL SPACES I THINK THAT THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED IN THE PAST AND I DON'T WANT TO GO THERE AND SO IN MY MIND THERE'S ALREADY TURF, THERE'S ALREADY RUBBER, THERE'S ALREADY BUILDINGS AND SO I WOULD RATHER BUILD A STADIUM WHERE THERE ARE ALREADY THOSE THINGS IN PLACE VERSUS LOOK AT OTHER PARTS OF OUR CITY THAT MAY NOT BE DEVELOPED AT ALL. RIGHT. AND AND SO YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT AND THE HELPFUL INFORMATION THAT WE'RE NOT IN A CONSERVATION CORRIDOR AT EITHER SITE. SO THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. SO THEREFORE DO AGREE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS ISN'T GOING TO CAUSE SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT. BUT I DO WANT TO JUST SAY THAT I THINK IT'S GONNA BE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE NOISE AND THE PARKING, THE LIGHTING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS IN COMPLIANCE AND IS ENFORCED. AND I REALLY DO ENCOURAGE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO MITIGATE ANY OF THOSE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT MIGHT OCCUR . AND THEN I KNOW I'M ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE SPEAKING TO THE UAW BUT I DO WANT TO JUST SAY A MORE THINGS AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT OUR COMMUNITY, OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE YOUNG PEOPLE OF BLOOMINGTON REALLY DO NEED NEW STADIUMS. LINCOLN IS EMBARRASSING. I GO TO OTHER CITIES ALL THE TIME WITH MY KIDS WHO ARE YOUNG ATHLETES AND THEY ALL HAVE VERY NICE FACILITIES AND YOU COME TO BLOOMINGTON AND IT'S IT TRULY IS EMBARRASSING AND AND SO YOU KNOW, I JUST I REALLY TRULY, TRULY BELIEVE THAT OUR YOUNG IN BLOOMINGTON NOW AND INTO THE FUTURE DESERVE NICE FACILITIES IT DOES ATTRACT FAMILIES I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT BLOOMINGTON TO GO TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE THE FANCY FACILITIES AND I JUST THINK IT'S LONG OVERDUE. SO YEAH SO MY COMMENTS THERE. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOU KNOW I, I, I WORRY ALWAYS WHEN WE BECAUSE WE'RE BUILDING OUR CITY OUT AS QUICKLY AS WE ARE AND WE'VE GOT SO MUCH INTEREST IN IT AND ALL THAT IN THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY WE CONTINUE EVEN THE THREE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL NOT HAVE MADE THE KINDS OF CHANGES THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO MAKE TO OUR STANDARDS SO THAT WE DO HOLD THESE KINDS OF THINGS TO A HIGHER STANDARD. IT FRUSTRATES ME THAT WE'VE NEVER PUT ANYTHING IN FRONT OF US THAT WOULD THAT WOULD RAISE THE STANDARD ON LIGHTING THAT WOULD RAISE STANDARD ON BUILDING MATERIALS THAT WOULD RAISE THE STANDARD ON PERMEABLE SURFACES THAT BUGS ME BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE WHAT WE HAVE TO TALK HERE TONIGHT IS DOES THIS DOES THIS CAUSE A HARM OVERRIDES THE COMPLIANCE OF WHAT WE DO HAVE ON THE BOOKS AND GIVEN WHAT I ASKED THE QUESTIONS OF KNOWING TO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER'S POINT, I ALSO LIVE WITH THE RAMIFICATIONS OF OF, YOU KNOW, LINCOLN ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND FRANKLY I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE I'LL JUST PUT THIS AS A PERSONAL COMMENT. I LIVE AT 87TH AND EMERSON I'M LITERALLY TWO BLOCKS FROM 35 W AND I GOT TO SEE THE AURORA NOT THE AURORA AURORA BECAUSE I WENT OUT TO AFTON TO SEE THAT OAK BUT I COULD SEE THEM I COULD SEE THEM FROM MY HOUSE AND THAT'S AMAZING RIGHT. AND THAT I FEEL LIKE IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE ARE BUILT OUT CITY AND DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH LIGHT MSRP MALL OF LIKE YOU SAID MAYOR ALL OF THAT AND YOU FORGOT EVEN 77 RIGHT SO THERE'S ANOTHER ONE ON THE EAST SIDE REAL REAL CLOSE TO YOU KNOW THE THE THE RIVER THAT WE WITH A THIRD OF OUR CITY SET IS GREEN SPACE. WE ARE STILL ABLE TO SEE THINGS AND ENJOY THINGS THAT NOBODY ELSE IN THE TWIN CITIES GETS TO SEE AND YET YOU GO NORTH ON ON THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER NORTH OF MINNEAPOLIS THERE IS A HERON COLONY THERE THAT COMES BACK EVERY YEAR AND GROWS ITS CHILDREN AND IT IS PHENOMENAL AND I LOVE ABOUT IT AND IT'S LITERALLY BLOCKS FROM THE HERC AND YOU KNOW WHATEVER LIKE NATURE IS INCREDIBLE AND NATURE WILL ADAPT. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS BUT ON NOISE WE WE HAVE A STUDY THAT SUGGESTS WERE IN INBOUNDS ON LIGHTING I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER BUT THAT'S BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER. I'D LIKE OUR LIGHTING ORDINANCE TO BE WAY MORE STRICT BUT THAT'S ME AND WE'LL GET THERE EVENTUALLY IF I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT IT. BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S IN COMPLIANCE FROM A CONSERVATION PERSPECTIVE ALL I CAN SAY IS YOU KNOW LINCOLN IS A HOP SKIP A JUMP FROM PENN LAKE AND I SEE STUFF ON PINE LAKE ALL THE TIME INCLUDING TWO NESTING PAIRS OF BALD EAGLES. RIGHT. AND SO WE'RE DOING OKAY NOT GREAT. LOVE IT IF IT WAS ALL CORNFIELD AGAIN BUT WE'RE DOING GREAT AND CAN I CONTAMINATION? I DON'T HAVE A SAY IN THAT BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S THERE TODAY THAT AND THE SCHOOL WOULD HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS IF THERE WAS CONTAMINATION BECAUSE KIDS EAT LUNCH THERE AND DRINK WATER THERE AND PLAY OUTSIDE THOSE TURFS AND EAT DIRT BECAUSE THEY'RE KIDS AND THEY EAT DIRT . SO YOU KNOW WE'D HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS WITH CONTAMINATION. SO ON THOSE FOUR ISSUES ALONE GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE STANDARDS THAT WE DO I WOULD DENY THE PETITION FOR KENNEDY TODAY. I WILL SAY I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON INCREASING OUR STANDARDS BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALSO MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU MAYOR. FIRST I'D LIKE TO JUST LIKE EVERYONE FOR BEING INVOLVED AND TO MY NEIGHBORS I LIVE IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD AS YOU. I DEFINITELY HEAR THE CONCERNS AND I THINK THE CONCERNS ARE VALID AND REAL AND BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE EXISTING PROCESS WITH PLANNING COMMISSION AND SEE THAT BECAUSE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THE REASON WE'RE HERE TODAY THEY CAME WITH A PROPOSAL AND PLANNING COMMISSION SAID IT DOESN'T MEET STANDARDS WE CAN'T APPROVE THIS AND SO THEY HAD TO GO DO THAT. THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TO GO THROUGH A VARIANCE PROCESS, BELIEVE THEIR NOISE IS THAT THEY CAN MEET IT, THAT THEY HAVE THAT EVIDENCE. I CANDIDLY AS I SIT HERE TODAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S MY JOB UNDER WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD HAVE A STADIUM THAT'S UP TO PLANNING COMMISSION. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S UP TO US TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE NOISE AND SOUND AND LIGHT AND ALL THAT MEETS STANDARDS. THAT'S THE ROLE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY HAVE THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON THAT WHETHER IN PROCESS TO APPEAL BACK TO US. THIS IS STRICTLY ABOUT IT MEET EITHER OF THE MANDATORY PARTS I HONESTLY DON'T THINK IT DOES I DON'T THINK IT'S THE SAME GEOGRAPHICAL I JUST THE THREE MILES APART THE LIGHT DOME EFFECT RATE OVER 35 W IT JUST DOESN'T MEET THAT FOR ME I ALSO DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT MEETS THE CONNECTED NATURE OF THEY CAN BUILD ONE STADIUM. THEY'VE HAD ONE STADIUM FOR 50 YEARS AND IT HAS WORKED AND I WILL JUST YOU IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT IT WOULD BE TOUGH ON THE COMMUNITY FOR ONE OF THE SCHOOLS TO HAVE A NICE STADIUM AND THE OTHER ONE NOT TWO BUT BEING DIFFICULT DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T BE DONE. AND I GREW UP I WENT TO APPLE VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL AND OUR FOOTBALL TEAM PLAYED AT ROSEMONT HIGH SCHOOL SEVEN MILES AWAY. I CAN TELL YOU HOW HAPPY WE WERE ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, THEY WERE NOT INNER CITY RIVALS BUT THEY WERE SAME SCHOOL DISTRICTS, SAME RIVALRY. WE HAD THE BENEFIT OF HAVING A THEATER THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE SO ONE OF THOSE ONE I GUESS ON THAT KNOW AND SO I JUST I DON'T SEE THAT IT MEETS THE MANDATORY PART IN TERMS OF WILL IT MEET THE PART THAT IT HAS A SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT IF IT MEETS ALL OF THE EXISTING STANDARDS BOTH IN STATE LAW AND CITY LAW I DON'T SEE HOW I CAN FIND THAT IT BE A SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. I MEAN THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THE GAME AS IT AND THOSE RULES COVER THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED THEY COVER NOISE AND SOUND AS I PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED AND I THINK PLANNING COMMISSION WILL TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY. THEY COVER LIGHT AS WE'VE DISCUSSED WE'RE ONE OF THE MMUNITIES THAT HAS GOOD STANDARDS IN THAT AREA CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO BETTER AND TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE IS IT NIGHT SKY GROUP THEY RECOMMENDATIONS TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE SEE IF WE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN ADD AND IMPROVE ON THAT PARKING AND TRAFFIC I HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS YOU KNOW I LIVE BY THERE I DON'T I'D LOVE TO SEE A PLAN FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OF HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET PEOPLE TO GO PARK AT THE OLSON'S IF YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY OR EVEN IN THAT AREA IF I DON'T EVEN KNOW THERE'S A PARKING LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT YOU KNOW AND YOU KNOW I DON'T SEE IT USED FOR EVENTS CURRENTLY HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DO WAYFINDING? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DO THOSE THINGS FOR THESE BIG IT'S A MITIGATION I THINK IT SHOULD BE DONE I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO TO DO THAT AND I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING BECAUSE THIS ISN'T A USE APPLICATION I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PUT IT AS A CONDITION. IT'S SOMETHING CAN MERELY REQUEST THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS THOSE AT BOTH SCHOOLS I'M SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT KENNEDY I SO TOTALLY TALKING ABOUT KENNEDY AND THIRD THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT SO AND THEN IN TERMS OF WATER BOTH OF THESE IF THEY HAVE ENOUGH DIRT MOVED WE'LL HAVE TO GET WATERSHED PERMITS SO THEY WILL HAVE TO MEET WATERSHED REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS CITY REQUIREMENTS AND IN OF HABITAT YOU KNOW ONE PROXY FOR THAT IS IN PERVIOUS SURFACE THEY THEY WILL NEED TO MEET THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE WITHIN OUR CODES WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE DISRUPTION OF HABITAT OF AND IN THIS CASE MAINLY SOD . SO I THINK WE HAVE GOOD STANDARDS. I TRUST OUR PLANNING COMMISSION WILLOOK AT THOSE VERY THOROUGHLY. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO TALK WITH THEM AND WORK WITH THEM AND IF THEY DON'T FIND ANY OF THOSE THINGS OR ANY OF THEM LACKING, I TRUST THAT THEY'LL RECOMMEND OR THEY WILL DENY IT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DID IN THE PAST. SO FOR THAT REASON I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT TOOL I HEAR CONCERNS I AGREE WITH YOUR CONCERNS. I SEE THOSE CONCERNS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS BOTH AT KENNEDY AND AT JEFFERSON. SO THAT'S THAT'S MY $0.02. COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN ALL RIGHT, MAYOR, I MADE SOME BRIEF COMMENTS HERE AND THEN I MAYBE IT'S TIME FOR SOME ACTION SO YOU KNOW, THIS ONE IS ABOUT KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL AND THE THE THE ISSUE THAT I KIND OF RUN INTO AND LET ME JUST JUST SAY THIS RIGHT OFF THE BAT THE CONCERNS ARE REAL AND HISTORY IS IS AN IMPORTANT PERSPECTIVE GIVEN WHAT'S TAKEN PLACE THERE AND ACROSS THE CITY. AND SO I KNOW THAT HISTORY. I'VE LIVED THAT HISTORY. AND SO FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE THERE TOTALLY GET IT, TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IT. BUT WE HAVE A PROBLEM HERE ESSENTIALLY IT'S BEEN IN THE CW REQUEST IF THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED PRESENTED BY PETITIONER'S PROPOSERS AND PERSONS OR OTHERWISE KNOWN TO THE RG DEMONSTRATE THAT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT THE PROJECT MAY HAVE POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS AND THEN WE'RE ASKED TO KIND OF GO THROUGH AND MAKE THESE FINDINGS. WELL KENNEDY ALREADY HAS A PRACTICE FACILITY THERE AND WHAT WE'RE BASICALLY LOOKING TO DO IS TO PUT UP FOUR POLES AND A YOU KNOW, AND BASICALLY SOME SEATS AND GOSH, THAT'S GOING TO BE REAL TOUGH TO MAKE THESE FINDINGS HERE. I CAN'T MAKE THESE FINDINGS WITH KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL AND IT'S DIFFICULT EVEN IF I WANT TO TO MAKE A CONNECTION BETWEEN KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL AND JEFFERSON TO MAKE THIS ONE PROJECT. I DIDN'T HEAR THAT AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE WASN'T ENOUGH TIME TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION IN A WAY THAT WAS SOUND AND CERTAINLY I FEEL FOR YOU IN THAT REGARD BUT. WE'RE AT A POSITION HERE WHERE WE'VE GOT TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED AND WHETHER OR NOT IT MADE SENSE. MAYOR AND SO GIVEN THAT THAT CIRCUMSTANCE AND THAT SITUATION IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE HERE WITH KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH A MOTION RESOLUTION ADOPTING FINDINGS OF FACT IN ORDER DENYING PETITION FOR DISCRETIONARY ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET FOR THE WALTON KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. THE SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER REGARDING ITEM 4.3 A RESOLUTION ADOPTING FINDINGS OF FACT IN ORDER DENYING PETITION FOR DISCRETIONARY ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET FOR THE KENNEDY PROJECT COUNCIL ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THIS COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS HEREIN? NONE WILL DO ANY GOOD AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED NAY MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IN OPPOSITION OPPOSITION AND WE WILL MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM 4.4 THE RESOLUTION RELATING TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET PETITION FOR THE JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM. MR. CENTENARIO AGAIN MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS YOU KNOW THERE IN THE SPIRIT THAT THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS I HAVE A SIMILAR EXCUSE ME A VERY SIMILAR SLIDE DECK. THERE IS A LOT OF THE SAME INFORMATION SO I'LL JUST TRY TO RESPECT EVERYONE'S TIME, STICK TO WHAT'S UNIQUE. BUT NOW WE'RE SWITCHING TO JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL AND THE SAME WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO THE SAME THING ONLY FOR THE JEFFERSON SITE. SO AGAIN IT'S STAFF'S BELIEF THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE A SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT FOR THE JEFFERSON STADIUM APPLICATION. WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO APPROVE OR DENY WE'RE JUST ASKING TO MAKE A DETERMINATION OF WHETHER AN EAW IS REQUIRED . AND SO MR. TUSK, YOU CAN OF PROBABLY VERY BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE WHAT HE'S ALREADY TALKED ABOUT. YEAH MAYOR AND MEMBERS I'LL JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY GO OVER THAT I THINK I WANT TO TOUCH ON ONE THING I MAY HAVE KIND OF GLOSSED OVER A LITTLE BIT BUT WE HEARD ABOUT MANDATORY AND DISCRETIONARY EAW REQUIREMENTS THE ANALYSIS AND THE FINDINGS THAT YOU JUST WENT THROUGH WITH THE KENNEDY PROJECT THE SAME FOR THOSE PROJECTS SO SAME STANDARDS JUST TOUCHING ON CONNECTED AND PHASED ACTIONS. YOU TOUCHED ON THIS EARLIER. I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THE CONNECTED ACTIONS IS OR SO ANY OF THOSE THREE THINGS COULD BE PRESENT AND PHASE THAT'S AND SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE PRESENT SO ALL OF THOSE STATUTORY READING THINGS BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BUT EVERYTHING ELSE REMAINS THE SAME AS FAR AS THE LEGAL ANALYSIS. THANK YOU. AND SO SHIFTING GEARS TO THE JEFFERSON SITE, SAME ARGUMENT APPLIES. THIS IS A DIFFERENT GEOGRAPHIC REGION DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD DIFFERENT WATERSHED DISTRICT AND SEPARATED BY A VARIETY OF TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS AND LAND USES THE EXISTING CONDITIONS JEFFERSON AGAIN, THIS IS THIS IS REALLY A TRULY A SCHOOL CAMPUS BETWEEN HIGH SCHOOL AND THE OLSON SCHOOLS. THE STADIUM AGAIN, THIS IS AN EXISTING ATHLETIC FIELD ARTIFICIAL TURF. THE SURROUNDING IS MANICURED TURF. ONE INTERESTING NOTE ABOUT TREES IS THAT ONE TREE WAS SHOWN TO BE REMOVED IN A SITE TO THE NORTH OF THE STADIUM AND THEN TRUE TO CONIFERS WELL DROPPING OUT TO THE SITE FOUR OF THOSE TREES ARE ALREADY DEAD OR THERE THEY ARE DYING BECAUSE THEY'RE ASH TREES AND SO THEY'LL HAVE TO BE REMOVED ANYWAY. JUST ANOTHER IMAGE OF THE PROPOSAL WITH THE HOME BLEACHERS IN THIS CASE THE BLEACHED THE HOME BLEACHERS ARE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE FIELD AND THEN THE VISITOR BLEACHERS ARE ON THE EAST OF THE FIELD WHICH IS A UNIQUE BUT THERE IS ALSO A MORE GREAT MORE TOPOGRAPHY IN THE SITE WHERE THE STADIUM IS ALMOST A LITTLE BIT OF IN A BOWL SHAPE AND SO THAT HAD TO BE THE ACCESSIBILITY HAD TO BE ADDRESSED. SO THERE NEEDS TO BE LONGER SIDEWALKS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT STILL FOR FOLKS WITH DISABILITIES THIS IS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT BLEACHER DESIGN. AGAIN WE'RE STILL WITHIN COMPLIANCE WITH HEIGHT STANDARDS AND SO IN THIS CASE THE STADIUM BLEACHERS WOULD BE A LITTLE OVER 31 FEET. IT'S A LITTLE BIT SHORTER. IT'S NOT THAT THE LENGTH AS GREAT BECAUSE AGAIN THE SEPARATING OF HOME AND VISITOR BLEACHERS AND YOU KNOW THE COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD ABOUT THE PARKING LOTS TO THE WEST END OF THE CAMPUS. YEAH, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT THERE THERE IS A WAY TO WALK DIRECTLY FROM THE OF THOSE PARKING AREAS SOUTH AND THEN THROUGH THROUGH SOME PARKING LOT. SO YOU REALLY DO NEED TO BE A LOCAL TO TO KNOW WHAT WHAT THOSE SIDEWALKS WHERE THEY WHERE THEY GO TO HOPEFULLY THEY WILL BE UTILIZED BECAUSE THERE IS AN ABUNDANCE OF SURFACE PARKING WITHIN WITHIN THIS CAMPUS JUST NORTH OF YOU KNOW YOU CAN SEE THE THE SIDEWALK AGAIN IMPROVING FOR PEDESTRIANS FOLKS WITH DISABILITIES OBVIOUSLY A VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF HAVING A SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY COMMUNITY SPACE. AND THEN HERE'S A SIMILAR SIDE BY SIDE THE THERE ARE NO NATURAL HABITATS ON SITE THE ENTIRETY IS DISTURBED SOIL AND THE LAND COVER IS MANICURED GRASS. SO I THINK THERE WOULD BE MORE CONCERNS IF WE WERE THE PROPOSAL WAS TO BE REMOVING GRASSLANDS OR PRAIRIES WHICH ARE IMPORTANT HABITATS THE THE ENVIRONMENTAL I GUESS VALUE OF MANICURED TURF IS DIMINISHED . YOU KNOW WE ARE GOING TO BE MONITORING PARKING USAGE OF A LOT OF COMMENTARY ON EXISTING PARKING AND THE ISSUES AROUND PARKING. IN STAFF'S VIEW IT IS VERY MUCH AN ENFORCEMENT CHALLENGE AND YOU KNOW BEING A TEENAGER AT SOME POINT IN MY LIFE I ALSO DIDN'T REALLY PAY ATTENTION STREET SIGNS SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S AN ENFORCEMENT A PROBLEM THAT I THINK CAN BE ADDRESSED BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CITY I WON'T REALLY EXPLAIN THE NOISE STANDARDS. THIS IS THE SAME AS OUR PREVIOUS PRESENTATION BUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THE NOISE MODELING THAT WAS DONE SPECIFICALLY FOR FOR JEFFERSON. WHAT WE SEE HERE IS THE L10 MODEL A WHAT THAT IMPACT WOULD BE TO THE CLOSEST NEIGHBOR WHICH IS THE NEIGHBOR JUST TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE STADIUM AND EVEN THOUGH THERE IS THERE IS STILL PROXIMITY TO THE STADIUM THEY'RE MODELING SHOWS COMPLIANCE WITH THE THE L10 AND L 50 REQUIREMENTS. SO AGAIN THE UPLIFT FIXTURE SOMETHING THAT WE DO ALONG THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO ENSURE THAT FIXTURES HAVE SOME SHIELDING. SO YOU'RE ORIENTING LIGHT OR DIRECTING LIGHT IN A PARTICULAR LOCATION AND WE ALSO NEED TO ENSURE THAT THE AMOUNT OF LIGHT THAT IS ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES IS MINIMAL MINIMAL TO NOTHING. AGAIN HERE'S THE PHOTOMETRIC PLANS YOU SEE THE LOCATIONS OF THE FOUR LIGHT POLES THAT ARE PROPOSED AND THEN AGAIN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MODEL LIGHT THAT IS ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND IN THIS CASE I BELIEVE IT WAS 0.09 FOOT CANDLES. THAT'S ALMOST NOTHING. AND SO AS PART OF A INSPECTION PROCESS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A LIGHT METER AS A PROP IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO WE DO CONFIRM WE DO INSPECT SIMILAR GRAPHIC TO WHAT YOU SEE THE JEFFERSON SITE IT IS NOT WITHIN A CONSERVATION THE WE DO NOT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT STORMWATER STORMWATER IMPACTING WETLANDS NEGATIVELY ALL THE STORMWATER THAT WOULD BE AS PART OF CODE COMPLYING SYSTEMS AND THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED AND REGULATED BOTH THROUGH THE CITY AND THE WATERSHED DISTRICT NOT WITHIN A IMPORTANT BIRD AREA AS IDENTIFIED BY AUDUBON SOCIETY . AND AGAIN THE JEFFERSON SITE IS MUCH FARTHER REMOVED FROM THE LYNDALE AVENUE CONTAMINATION CORRIDOR AND SO WE DO NOT HAVE CONCERNS THAT THIS SITE OR THE JEFFERSON SITE WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON THAT CONTAMINATED AREA. WITH THAT AGAIN WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE COUNCIL FIND THAT AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THE JEFFERSON STADIUM PROJECT. THANK YOU MR. CENTENARIO ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CENTENARIO THIS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SO CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT PIECE BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I FULLY GRASPING OKAY SO THAT'S AT THE WHAT'S THE THE LIMIT ON THE THE THE ALL 1067 COUNCILMEMBER IS THE THE CODE STANDARD IS 60 DECIBELS AND THAT'S THE OVER A YEAR A ONE HOUR PERIOD YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE UPPER LIMIT RIGHT. SO WE'RE AT 64 HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER THAT THE 64 IS FOR THE OLD TEN AND THEN THE 57 IS FOR THE L 50 AND THIS GRAPHIC WE'RE SHOWING THE EL AND SO YOU'RE SEEING THE THE MODEL SHOWING A 57 DECIBELS AT THE PROPERTY LINE SO THAT IS IN COMPLIANCE. YEAH THE L TEN IS CLOSER IT IS JUST BELOW THE MAXIMUM. SO AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE MONITORED AND IF WE FIND THAT IT IS A TWO IT IS TOO LOUD. YOU KNOW ONE OF THE MITIGATING FACTORS THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED IS TO REDUCE THE VOLUME JUST AS SIMPLE AS THAT JUST BRINGING THE LIME DOWN YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. NOT LIKE AIRPORT NOISE OR AIR AIRPLANE NOISE SO YOU CAN'T COUNCILMEMBER THESE ARE THESE ARE AUDIO VISUAL SYSTEMS. THEY CAN BE THEY'RE MONITORED. THEY CAN BE ADJUSTED. ALL RIGHT. WELL OKAY. I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF AN ADJUSTMENT THAT CAN MADE TO THIS THIS EFFECTS SO THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT FOR ME WAS, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. YEAH, THANK YOU. MAYOR MY WAS SIMILAR LINES BECAUSE IT IS SO CLOSE ON THAT AND IT WOULD SOMETHING THAT CAN BE MONITORED THERE'S AND I THINK ONE OF THE CRITERIA WE HAD TO LOOK AT IS IF ONGOING REGULATORY THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO MITIGATE IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I WANTED TO GO AS WELL. I ASSUME THAT APPLIES TO LIGHT ALTHOUGH AM I WRONG IN UNDERSTANDING THAT LIGHT MAY BE LESS OF A CONCERN BECAUSE ISN'T HOUSING TO THE EAST AND WEST THE FIELD? YES MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBERS SO NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN AND SO THE THE GREATEST IMPACT IS TO THE SOUTHWEST TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE ON THE CORNER OF JOHNSON AND HERITAGE HILLS. THERE IS A THERE IS SINGLE FAMILY HOME OR THAT'S WHERE A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD BEGINS AND THERE IS A THERE IS A HOME ON THE PROPERTY THAT IS MOST IMPACTED BUT AGAIN JUST GIVEN THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE WAY THE LIGHT IS ORIENTED, THE LOCATION OF THE POLES IT'S VERY A VERY SMALL IMPACT THAT IS COMPLIANT OAK SO OTHER QUESTIONS . ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. FOLLOWING OUR PROCESS FROM LAST TIME I'LL I'LL ASK OUR OUR APPLICANTS IF THEY IF THERE'S THEY WANT TO ADD THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY HERE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE AT 9:00 AND WE'VE GOT TO ASK A PETITIONERS EXCUSE ME I APOLOGIZE PETITIONERS MY APOLOGIES UNDERSTANDING I'M 9:00 AND WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS WE'VE GOT TO GET TO ON OUR ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING SO I'M SURE DOUG HERZOG I'LL BE BRIEF AGAIN THAT LAST SLIDE THAT MR. LOWMAN WAS LOOKING AT I MEAN YOU'RE SO CLOSE TO THAT NOISE VARIANCE AND I KEEP HEARING I BELIEVE OR I THINK RIGHT. AND WE ASKED FOR THE ASSUMPTIONS WHICH WILL BEAR OUT THE NOISE AND WOLD ARCHITECT ORIGINALLY SAID YES WE NEED TO DO A NOISE STUDY BECAUSE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT VARIABLES AND YOU COULDN'T JUST MODELING TO COME UP WITH THIS SO IF YOUR WHAT WAS IT ONE DECIBEL AWAY FROM GOING OVER FOR THOSE HOUSES THAT'S A LOT TO RISK THAT I'D HAVE ALL YOUR EYES AND T'S CROSSED YOU COULD BE DEFINITELY LOOKING AT SOME LAWSUITS IF YOU'RE NOT ACCURATE WITH THIS I'M KIND OF GOBSMACKED THAT THAT'S JUST KIND OF OVERLOOKED THAT THIS NOISE THING YOU KNOW WHEN YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT 2500 PEOPLE AND AGAIN I'VE SAID IT'S 2500 AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE BAND WHICH IS WHERE THE STADIUM'S GOING TO BE. SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE NOISE SHOULD AND THAT BRINGS IT CLOSER TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND SO THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT I DON'T THINK IT IS AND THAT'S WHY WE ASKED FOR THAT OTHER INFORMATION AND WE'RE WE'RE STONEWALLED LIKE CENTENARIO REFERRED US TO VAN CLASSEN AND THEY WONDER IF THEY DON'T GIVE US THE INFORMATION JUST FOLLOWING UP ON THAT SO THE MODELING DATA JUST REITERATING WHY IT'S IMPORTANT BE ABLE TO SEE THAT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY'RE GETTING 64 AS ONE DECIBEL INTO COMPLIANCE WHEN WE HEARD NOVEMBER 2ND AND NOVEMBER 30TH FROM MR. APPEL KOSKI THAT THERE WAS NO WAY THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO MEET THE CITY NOISE ORDINANCE OF THE CITY AND BCA WHICH ARE THE SAME THAT WAS STATED ALMOST TEN TIMES TO US THAT THEY WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO MEET THE ORDINANCE. SO THEN THEY HAD AN INVERSE SQUARE MODEL CREATED WHICH WAS ALSO COMPUTER MODEL. IT DIDN'T WORK OUT THEY COULDN'T MAKE THE NOISE LEVELS . THEN MONTHS LATER SUDDENLY THERE'S A COMPUTER MODEL THAT GOT THAT NOISE LEVEL. I HOPE YOU CAN SEE WHY WE WANT TO SEE DATA THAT SHOWS THIS WE DON'T KNOW THE DISTANCE THAT WAS MEASURED TO THAT HOUSE. WE DON'T KNOW THE OTHER IMPACTING FACTORS THAT ARE INPUT IT INTO THAT TO MAKE THAT FEELING MAGICAL RESULT PLUS AS I SHOWED OR TALKED LAST TIME THIS IS I DON'T HAVE A COLOR PRINTER I'M SORRY THE IMAGE THAT THEY SHOWED HAD THE HEMISPHERICAL SPREADING OF THE SOUND FROM THE SOURCES WHICH AGAIN THEY'RE USING ONLY THE SPEAKERS WHICH IS 95 DECIBELS IF YOU USE SOMEONE PRESSING A BUTTON WHEN THE NOISE GETS TOO LOUD TO LOWER THAT TO 95 YOU'RE ALSO COUNTING NO CROWD SOUND IN THAT A VARIATION WHICH YOU CANNOT LOWER YOU CANNOT PRESS A BUTTON TO LOWER CROWD NOISE AND ONE INSTRUMENT MR. APPLE KOSKI STATED, COULD BE UP 115 DECIBELS WHEN ALL OF THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED 95 SO I JUST STRUGGLE TO REALLY ACCEPT THAT WITHOUT ABLE TO SEE THE DATA AND ASSUMPTIONS. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN ACCEPT THAT WITHOUT SEEING THE DATA THAT WAS INPUTTED FOR THAT WITH ALL OF THAT KNOWLEDGE THEN LOOK AT THIS WHICH IS THE ACTUAL MODEL THAT GETS YOU TO THAT 64 NUMBER CONVENIENT 64 NUMBER. THERE IS NO LINES HERE OF THE SOUND WHICH WOULD ADD THREE DECIBELS THE SOUND ITSELF OFF THAT HOUSE THE POND THERE I WAS TOLD BY A SOUND ENGINEER CAN ACTUALLY RAISE THE SOUND VOLUME THERE ARE NATURAL HABITATS. THERE IS A POND RIGHT HERE AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE ON THAT MAP OF THE CONSERVATION AREAS AND THE RECOGNIZED PARKS THERE IS A HUGE PARK. HERITAGE HILLS IS DIRECTLY THE OLSON'S PARKING LOT WHERE THEY WANT TO PARK EVERYBODY NOT INCLUDED IN THAT IS NATURAL HABITAT AND I WOULD I WOULD SAY THAT IT IS NATURAL HABITAT. SO I JUST THINK THIS SOUND STUDY IS VERY PROBLEMATIC. I, I TO BE ABLE TO BELIEVE THAT THIS ISN'T GOING TO BLOW US OUT OF OUR HOUSES AT NIGHT BUT I JUST I NEED THE DATA TO SHOW ME THAT THAT IS A TRUE EQUATION AND I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD WANT THAT DATA SHOW THAT THAT'S A TRUE EQUATION AT ONE DECIBEL OF DIFFERENCE TO COMPLIANT THIS STARTS TO BECOME TRICKY BECAUSE AS THE SUPERINTENDENT AND I WORKED OUT HOW MANY GAMES WOULD ACTUALLY BE PLAYED IS THAT YOU KNOW EXACTLY. OKAY YOU KNOW FOUR GAMES IS WHAT THEY SAID FOR FOOTBALL BUT THEN IT ADDS BECAUSE THEY DO LACROSSE SOCCER THAN THEY DO J.V. THEN THEY DO VARSITY THEN THEY DO BOYS AND THEN THEY DO GIRLS. THEN THEY DO INTRAMURALS THEN THEY DO CHAMPIONSHIPS. IT COULD BE AS LOW AS 20 GAMES IN THE SCHOOL YEAR, COULD BE AS MANY AS 40 GAMES AND THEN THERE'S NOT ANY TALK HAVING ANY KIND OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT THEY DON'T RENT OUT THE STADIUM TO OTHER PEOPLE IT COULD BE SEVEN NIGHTS EACH SEASON DURING SPRING AND WINTER MIGRATION AND BY THE I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S A NIMBY ISSUE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING MIGRATION I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REGIONALISM AND STATEWIDE INTERESTS HERE. IT'S NOT JUST WHAT'S IN THE BACKYARD FOR US IT'S WHAT'S IN THE BACKYARD FOR EVERYBODY AND EVERYBODY'S CHILDREN GOING I'LL BE LONG GONE BEFORE THIS EFFECT TAKES HOLD BUT YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR CHILDREN YOUR GRANDCHILDREN WILL MEET THE RESULTS WHAT YOU'RE DOING TONIGHT. SO I THINK BIGGER PICTURE THE LIGHT DOME IS A REAL THING AND I KNOW IT CONNECTS THE TWO PROJECTS WE DO STILL THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT MAPS ABOUT STARRY SKIES BY THE WAY THERE IS THE VERY VERY LIGHT AREA IN MINNEAPOLIS. GRAY IS BLOOMINGTON. BLOOMINGTON IS NOT QUITE THE DENSITY OF URBAN LIGHTING. THE MINNEAPOLIS HAS WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO THAT BUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE PROPOSED BE A PARTIALLY DARK NIGHT SKY CITY AND YOU'VE SIGNED ON TO THAT YOU DO HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO UPHOLD THAT IF THAT'S INDEED YOUR INTENT. SO I WOULD CONSIDER BIGGER BROADER ACTIONS ABOUT HOW IT WILL AFFECT THE ENTIRE REGION NOT JUST THESE LITTLE AREAS AND THAT'S HOW I SEE IT AS BEING CONNECTED. AND JUST ONE MORE TO FOLLOW UP. I KNOW I'M NOT A SOUND PROFESSIONAL BUT. THE FACT THAT I TALKED TO SOMEONE WHO IS AND THAT WAS THE ONLY COUNTERPOINT THAT HAVE I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING LOOKED AT RELATED TO THAT FROM ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE DUE DILIGENCE. YEAH AND I STILL MAINTAIN THAT THEY'RE CONNECTED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BUILD ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ONE STADIUM YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD THEM BOTH. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE UNTIL ANY QUESTIONS FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS . COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU MAYOR. I WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT KIND OF GOING BACK AND FORTH SO I'LL TRY TO TRY TO TRY TO BE CAREFUL WITH HOW I ASK THIS QUESTION SO WITH RESPECT TO THE NOISE PIECE SO YOU KNOW THE PROBLEM I'M DEALING WITH WITH THIS I'M NOT ONLY DEALING WITH AIRPORT NOISE, YOU KNOW, PLANE YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE PLANE YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY CHANGE YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO YOU A PATH THAT'S GOING THERE. BUT WITH RESPECT TO THIS THERE'S A WAY TO MITIGATE THAT BY JUST SIMPLY TURNING IT DOWN AND THAT'S THAT'S THE PIECE I'M STRUGGLING TO TO UNDERSTAND AND I HEAR THE THE THE PORTION ABOUT THE CROWN BUT IN MARCHING BAND ONE THE MARCHING BAND TOO AND I KNOW THAT BUT BUT EVEN WITHIN AND KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT ABOUT SOUND SO THAT REALLY DOESN'T GET THERE IT JUST DOESN'T IT DOESN'T GET THERE SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ,YOU KNOW AND CERTAINLY I SHARE YOUR YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE NOISE STUDY BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT NECESSARILY MEAN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS KIND OF LAID THAT OUT THAT THAT'S YOU KNOW MAYBE FOR PLANNING TO KIND OF DEAL WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A MITIGATION PIECE THAT'S THERE. BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT TENDS TO THIS OVERALL NATURAL RESOURCES ISSUE AND I'VE GOT OTHER QUESTIONS TOO IN TERMS OF YEAH, SURE. JUST IN RESPONSE TO THAT AIRPORT NOISE, IT'S IT'S IT'S CONSISTENT. IT'S THE SAME CROWD NOISE ISN'T YOU CAN'T TURN THAT DOWN SO IT'S NOT CONSISTENT AND SO YOU'RE JUST ALLOWING ONE DECIBEL TO BE THE MAKE OR WHETHER IT MEETS CODE OR NOT. RIGHT. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THANKS FOR THAT INFORMATION. DOES IT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, IT DOES ANSWER MY QUESTION. YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO BE ON BACK AND FORTH I WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR THAT. NEXT QUESTION IS AROUND THE CONDITIONAL PERMIT PIECE. I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT FITS IN WITH WHAT'S THE DISCUSSION HERE BECAUSE NO, WE'RE NOT HERE TO CONSIDER A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. OH WELL GO AHEAD. I WASN'T SAYING THAT PART. I WAS JUST MENTIONING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BECAUSE THE POTENTIAL OF THE POTENTIAL THAT WE HAVE HERE IS INCREASED IF YOU LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF THE SCHOOL USING IT BEYOND SCHOOL PURPOSES SO THAT YOU HAVE LIGHT AND SOUND PENETRATING AN AREA THAT HAS NEVER SEEN LIGHT AND SOUND TO THIS DEGREE ON A REGULAR SEVEN NIGHT A WEEK BASIS DURING THE TIMES WHEN BIRDS ARE MIGRATING, IF YOU REDUCED IF YOU IF YOU MADE THE GAMES EARLIER YOU PLANTED MORE TREES. IF THE FOUNDATIONS FOR YOUR PLANTINGS WERE MORE ROBUST DIFFERENT KINDS OF TREES, DIFFERENT SHAPED LEAVES THIS ALL HELPS TO MITIGATE SOUND 100 FEET WAS WHAT THE MAGIC NUMBER IS WHICH IS TRUE YOU COULD AT YOUR PROPERTY LINE ON THE CITY AND THEN INCREASE IT TO THE NEIGHBORS PROPERTY LINE BUT WITHOUT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT HAVE NO GUARANTEE THAT THE SCHOOL WHEN THE CURRENT SUPERINTENDENT IS GONE WILL CONTINUE USING IT ONLY SCHOOL RESOURCES SO THE AN IMPOSITION THIS ISN'T YEAH THIS ISN'T GERMANE AT ALL TO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL YEAH IN FACT INVESTMENT WORKSHEET IN FACT THERE MEAN THE FURTHER YOU GO DOWN THIS PATHWAY IT JUST LOCKS IT IT LOCKS INTO THIS THIS CONVERSATION NEEDS TO BE IN THE OTHER AND THE OTHER IN THE OTHER GERMANE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU THE MORE YOU GO DOWN THAT ROAD. IF I CAN GO BACK TO YOUR PREVIOUS QUESTION BRIEFLY THE CROWD NOISE IS ESTIMATED AT AROUND 100 TO 115 DECIBELS. ANY FLUCTUATIONS IN THAT EVEN LISTED HERE IN THE VENUE CLASS AND THEIR STUDY SAYS FLUCTUATIONS BEYOND THE NOISE LEVELS USED IN SECTION 3.0 WOULD CAUSE DEVIATIONS FROM THE PREDICTED PROPERTY LINE NOISE LEVEL. SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, BASING IT ON A DIGITAL PROCESSOR BEING USED BY AN ATTENTIVE PERSON WHO LIMITS THE SPEAKER SOUND TO 95 AND THAT'S HOW THEY GET THEIR 64 COMPLIANCE NUMBER THAT DOESN'T HOLD TRUE. YOU TALK ABOUT THE VARIATIONS IN THE CROWD NOISE SO IF THE CROWD NOISE GOES THAN 10% OF THE TIME OR 50% OF THE TIME DURING THAT HOUR, THEN WE HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY MEASURE AND MITIGATE THAT AFTER THE FACT AND IT'S BEEN BUILT WHICH WOULD BE THEN WHEN NOISE VIOLATIONS OCCUR. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THAT'S ALL THE QUESTION I HAVE BUT IT DOES RAISE THE QUESTION OF LESS STAFF BUT NOTHING ELSE WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THINK TAMARA IN THIS JUST A QUICK QUESTION. IT MAY ACTUALLY BE FOR STAFF HAS THERE BEEN A NOISE STUDY DONE AT LINCOLN OR FOR LINCOLN ? OKAY. AND I WONDER BECAUSE AGAIN LIKE LOOKING AT THE LINCOLN MAP THERE HOUSES RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LINCOLN FOOTBALL FIELD AND WHERE IT SAYS PORTABLE TOILETS THERE ARE HOUSES THERE. AND SO I GUESS I'M JUST CURIOUS LIKE IF THE SOUND STUDY HAS BEEN DONE AT LINCOLN OR HOW RECENT IT WAS TO MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS ESSENTIALLY IT'S NOT BEEN COMPLETED LINCOLN ENGINEER AND THAT WOULDN'T BE SO MUCH A STYLE OF SOUND STUDY AS WOULD BE TAKING MEASUREMENTS OF EXISTING SOUND DURING EVENTS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S FROM MIDDLETOWN. IT RELATED QUESTION I THINK AS I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION BUT RELATED TO THAT I WOULD HAVE TO THINK THAT IT'S PUBLIC RECORD THERE HAVE BEEN STADIUMS BUILT RECENTLY AROUND THE TWIN CITIES IN MINNESOTA. THE ONE I'M THINKING OF MOST SPECIFICALLY IS SINCE THE AURORA WHO ARE ABOUT 6000 6000 SPECTATORS EVERY YEAR ARE OUT AT TCO STADIUM DURING THE SUMMERTIME AND THERE'S THEY'VE BUILT APARTMENTS LITERALLY ON THE SAME FLOOR PLAN AS THE STADIUM WHEN BUILT THAT WHOLE MINNESOTA VIKINGS AREA I WOULD HAVE TO THINK THAT THERE AS A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD YOU COULD GET SOME INFORMATION ABOUT SOUND THERE AGAIN TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THE RIGHT WE HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBERS BUT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT EXISTING STADIUMS YOU ARE TALKING BETWEEN 20 506,000 ARE PEOPLE YOU KNOW PLAYING AND PARTICIPATING IN THIS AT OTHER THING ARE CREATING IN CERTAIN TIMES IS THERE ANY WAY THAT AS PART OF YOUR NORMAL DILIGENCE AS AS PLANNING THAT YOU LOOK INTO THAT TO VALIDATE FOR YOURSELF IF YOU THINK THAT THE INFORMATION THAT YOU GOT FROM THIS CURRENT STUDY IS INFORMATION FOR YOU TO FEEL LIKE THIS PROJECT IS COMPLIANCE? AGAIN, I'M NOT SUGGESTING, MR. MAYOR, THAT AN EAW WOULD DO SOMETHING MORE HERE TO TO THAT BUT I IT IF IF IF THIS IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL AGREE IS SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANT SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT JUST AS IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF THE PLANNING PROCESS MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT SO I JUST WAS CURIOUS IF YOU'VE EVER DONE THAT OR IF THERE'S ACCESS TO THAT THAT YOU COULD TRY TO GET FROM WHO IS THAT INVER GROVE HEIGHTS OR YEAH, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT OTHER PLACES WHERE YOU COULD FIND THAT INFORMATION. SURE. MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER CASSANDRA, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF AS STAFF WE HAVE TO USE OUR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT AND IF WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S INFORMATION THAT DOESN'T SEEM ACCURATE OR DOESN'T SEEM COMPLETE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRY ADDRESS THAT AND WE FELT INITIALLY WITH THIS APPLICATION THE CALCULATIONS THAT THE ARCHITECT COMPLETED JUST WASN'T ENOUGH INFORMATION AND DIDN'T TAKE IT ENOUGH FACTORS INTO ACCOUNT WHICH IS WHY WE REALLY WANTED WE WANTED ACOUSTIC ACOUSTICIAN EXCUSE ME TO PREPARE A MODEL BASED ON WIDELY ACCEPTED INPUTS. IT IS A MODEL EVERY MODEL IS TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF ASSUMPTION, SOME LEVEL OF INACCURACY AND THAT'S WHY IT CAN'T JUST BE THE MODEL IT HAS TO BE THE MODEL PLUS VERIFICATION BECAUSE IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE SOUND IS OR THE NOISE A LITTLE TOO LOUD AND THAT THERE HAS TO BE AN ADJUSTMENT MADE AND THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT THE APPLICANT CAN CONTROL AND THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT THE APPLICANT CAN'T CONTROL WITH CROWD NOISE AGAIN WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PEAK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NOISE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. AND SO THERE WILL BE THERE WILL BE TIMES THAT THE PEAK IS FAR OVER THAT L TEN AND 50 LEVEL BUT IT'S NOT CONTINUOUS. RIGHT. IF YOU IF I UNDERSTOOD CALCULATION CORRECTLY IT'S AT LEAST PERCENT OF THE TIME IN AN HOUR IT CAN'T BE OVER THAT NUMBER OR IS THAT OR MORE THAN 10% OF THE TIME? IT CAN'T BE. IT'S HARD IT'S HARD TO SAY. YEAH. THE 1050 THE THE SOUND LEVEL THAT IS NOT EXCEEDED MORE THAN 10% OF THE TIME SO IT IS IN I'M ALREADY MESS UP WITH MY WORDS BUT AGAIN L TEN IS GOING TO BE A HIGHER LEVEL BECAUSE THAT SOUND WILL ONLY BE EXCEEDED 10% OF THE TIME THE 50TH L 50 OBVIOUSLY MUCH LOWER LEVEL BECAUSE THAT LEVEL WOULD BE EXCEEDED UP TO 50% OF THE TIME. OKAY. SO DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T GO OVER FROM TIME TO TIME. IT JUST CAN'T BE SUSTAINED MORE THAN 10% OF THE TIME IN A GIVEN HOUR. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. NEXT ON SUMMARY WAS THANK YOU MAY I HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN THE BIKING STADIUM WAY BACK IN THE VALLEY I I'M ASSUMING YOU HAVE BUT MR. MERRICK HOUSE MEMBERS I'VE BEEN I'M BIG BADGER FAN SO I'VE BEEN TO CAPITOL I MEAN YOU KNOW WHERE I'M GETTING TO DON I MEAN IF YOU'VE BEEN IN THERE OR OR AT THE WOLVES GAMES RECENTLY THE NOISE DOESN'T STOP IT GOES ON AND ON FOR OVER AN HOUR IF THESE KIDS ARE AS PASSIONATE WE ARE ALL BELIEVE THEY ARE. I MEAN THAT IS GOING TO GO UP FOR LONGER THAN THAN 10% OF THAT ONE HOUR. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A BIG PLAYER. I GO WATCH A LOT OF SPORTS AND AND THE REALITY IS AS YOU STATED AS YOU ADMITTED THAT THE NOISE IS GOING TO GO UP. WE DON'T ALWAYS WHETHER THAT NOISE IS JUST GOING TO BE OVER THE LIMIT SUSTAINED SUBSTANTIALLY OVER THE LIMIT FOR 10% OF THE TIME. IT JUST ALL DEPENDS ON HOW PASSIONATE THE PEOPLE INTO THE GAME. RIGHT. SO THERE'S A VALID REASON IN THERE FOR THEM TO BE ASKING FOR WHEN THEY ASK AGAIN I'M NOT AN EXPERT. I'M NOT GOING TO CLAIM TO DO I DO HAVE A LOW EQUIPMENT FOR SOUND BECAUSE I SHOOT A LOT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EARS ARE GOOD ANOTHER 20 YEARS. IF I LIVE THAT LONG I'LL BUT YOU KNOW THEY HAVE A LOT OF EQUIPMENT AT HOME THAT I MADE SURE THE SOUND AS A MATTER OF FACT I DID A LOT OF SHOOTING OVER THE WEEKEND I BUT YOU KNOW THEY'RE ALL IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW PEOPLE REACT AT THAT GIVEN TIME IT ALL DEPENDS WHAT CALIBER I'M SHOOTING AT THAT ONE POINT THAT THE SOUND IS GOING TO GO EVEN IF I HAVE A SURPRISE BRING MY WEAPON STILL THE SOUND CHANGES IT VARIES WITH WHATEVER IS HAPPENING THAT POINT YOU KNOW SO TO ME IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A A REAL LIVE TEST ON THE SOUND LET'S DO IT IN THE OLD STADIUM TO CORROBORATE YOURS YOU'RE A COMPUTER MODEL WHETHER IT'S ACCURATE NOT. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER THE ONLY WAY TO VERIFY THIS IS LIKE A POST INSTALLATION MEASUREMENT AND SO YOU KNOW THOSE ALTERNATE 50 LEVELS THEY'RE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT FROM GAME GAME AND SO WHAT WE'RE AND AGAIN THE MODEL A MODEL IT'S THE WHAT A ACOUSTICIAN PUT USING THE METHODS THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE AND THAT'S WE THAT'S WHAT WE ACCEPTED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION. THANK. NOW I THINK WE'RE DOUBLING BACK ON OUR SOUND DISCUSSION FROM THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION SO I WONDER IF WE CAN MOVE FROM THAT MAYBE LOOK AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE TO THE CONVERSATION HERE? THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. SO THERE ARE JUST TWO QUICK THINGS I'D LIKE TO ADD. ONE IS JUST TO REITERATE THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THIS STADIUM FACILITY WE'RE PROPOSING AT KENT AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL IS WITHIN THE INTENDED USES FOR SCHOOL ZONING AND TRULY WE BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE WHAT'S GOOD FOR OUR STUDENTS AND OUR FAMILIES IN BLOOMINGTON IN THE JEFFERSON AREA. SO THAT'S ONE I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WE REALLY BELIEVE IT'S WHAT'S GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND TO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN CLASS AND THE REPUTABLE COMPANY THAT'S DONE OUR SOUND STUDY IS GOING TO BE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON THURSDAY AND WILL BE EXPLAINING MORE INFORMATION AT THAT TIME. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR THE ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENTS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN OH NO STAFF DID A GERMANE QUESTION YES. IS THERE GOING TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THEIR MEETING ALSO AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING I DON'T KNOW WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ITSELF. OKAY. THANK YOU THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNSEL DISCUSSION QUESTIONS ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF REAL QUICK. SO MITIGATION SO LET'S SAY LET'S JUST SAY THAT NOISE IS AN ISSUE. COULDN'T ONE OF THE MITIGATION TACTICS BE REDUCED CROWD SMART COUNCILMEMBER I SUPPOSE IT COULD BE POSSIBLE BUT THAT'S ONLY TEXT HERE. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR IF THIS DOESN'T MEET WITH THE TESTING AFTER THE FACT THE RISK WOULD BE BORNE BY THE DISTRICT TO DO MITIGATION TURN IT DOWN, CROWD SIZE, OTHER THINGS. IS THAT ACCURATE? THIS IS NOT A CITY RISK. IT'S A SCHOOL DISTRICT RISK THAT IT DOESN'T PERFORM WHEN THEY NEED TO IT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH STANDARDS. AND MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER IT BE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD BE VIOLATING CITY CODE AND SO WE WOULD OF COURSE WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DEFIANT TO TRY TO BRING THEM IN COMPLIANCE BUT IT WOULD BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO MITIGATE. OKAY. AND THEN ONE OTHER POSSIBLE MITIGATION THAT I WOULD JUST THROW OUT THERE AT THE CORNER WHERE THERE IS THE HOUSE CLOSE BY, THERE'S ACTUALLY A BERM ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THERE. THERE'S ALSO TREE BOULEVARD TREES PROTECTING THEIR HOUSE I BELIEVE THOSE ARE IN THE CITY BOULEVARD THERE WITH THE EXCAVATION AND THE BLEACHERS. COULD IT BE CONSIDERED TO REGRADE THAT? AND I THINK I DON'T THINK YOUR CLEARVIEW TRIANGLES ARE IMPACTED BECAUSE THERE IS A SEPARATE TURN LANE THERE BUT COULD THEY PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PROTECTION THEY'RE SO CLOSE THERE JUST TO GIVE THEMSELVES AN EXTRA BUFFER IF THEY SO CHOSE CERTAINLY POSSIBILITY. LAST THING I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO FAR DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE IT'S BEEN TALKED BUT THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT RENTING THE FACILITY OUT. THERE ARE SOME ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS WITH THAT. JUST QUICKLY IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT UNDER LAND USE IT SAYS IT'S A LOCAL FACILITY NOT INTENDED TO BE USED FOR REGIONAL EVENT PURPOSES. DOES THAT LIMIT THEM IN ANY WAY IN TERMS OF RENTALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT . MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS IN YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING INTO RANGE OF WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE REVIEWING BUT WHAT HAVE INCLUDED IN THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS IS A CONCURRENT USE AGREEMENT WHERE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD ENTER AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY THAT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE SIGNIFICANT EVENTS SUCH AS THE ACTIVITY CENTER AND A HOME FOOTBALL GAME AT THE SAME TIME. THANKS COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU MAYOR. MORE JUST COMMENTS ON MY END. WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE KENNEDY ONE AND I DO WANT FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND ESPECIALLY FROM MY SIDE I HAVE VERY YOUNG CHILDREN RIGHT NOW AND THEIR FUTURES EXACTLY WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS CITY WE ARE MY FAMILY IS DEEPLY INVESTED IN BLOOMINGTON. MY WIFE'S FAMILY HAS ROOTS THAT GO BACK TO THE 1800S HERE WHEN BLOOMINGTON WAS NOTHING BUT FIELDS AND WOODS AND PEOPLE WERE STARTING STARTING TO FARM HERE AND NOW MY FAMILY IS HERE TO CONTINUE ON THAT TRADITION TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CHILDREN HAVE A FUTURE A VIABLE FUTURE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. SO IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE AND I TAKE LIGHTLY ALL THE POINTS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY FROM THE PETITIONERS, FROM THE APPLICANTS ARE VERY, VERY VALID. BUT IT'S UP TO US AS A COMMUNITY TO CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS TO COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING TO SUPPORT OUR FUTURE HERE. AND SO I APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING AND PROVIDING THEIR TESTIMONY, PROVIDING THEIR INPUT SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION MOVING FORWARD AS FAR AS IT GOES FOR THIS FOR THE JEFFERSON EAW YOU KNOW MY MY ALIGN DEEPLY WITH THE THE CONVERSATION HAVE WITH KENNEDY AND I WANT TO SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD INTO THE PLANNING COMMISSION PHASE OF IT. COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD FROM FROM A CAUSALITY PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS THE CONDITIONS THAT MUST BE MET BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE ARE IN THE SAME HERE. PERSONALLY FOR ME WITH NOISE, WITH LIGHTING, WITH CONSERVATION WITH CONTAMINATION I WILL SAY I LIKE THERE BECAUSE GOTTEN SUCH RICH INFORMATION AND OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE WHO ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS ISSUE HAVE GIVEN US A LOT OF GOOD INSIGHT INTO WE CAN DO AS A COMMUNITY TO MAKE OUR ORDINANCES AND AND OTHER THINGS MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO YOU KNOW REALLY COMPLY WITH WHETHER THAT'S GREEN STEP CITIES OR STARRY SKIES OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. I KNOW WE CAN'T FORCE THE ISSUE ON THE STADIUMS BUT IS IT AND I'LL THROW THIS OUT HERE AS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER DOES THIS DO WE AS A COUNCIL WANT TO COMPILE A LIST OF SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND HAND THEM TO THE STATE HANIM TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND SAY REALLY REALLY WANT YOU TO CONSIDER DOING SOME OF THESE THINGS BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY IF WE BELIEVE THAT AGAIN CAN'T FOR SOME RIGHT DON'T HAVE THE DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS TO TO MAKE COMPLIANCE HAPPEN REGULATORY SPEAKING IF YOU WILL BUT THIS IS A THIS IS A COMPILATION OF REALLY IMPORTANT INFORMATION AND SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE COULD DO SOMETHING USEFUL WITH AND IF THAT WAS AT ALL POSSIBLE TO TO HAVE THE ARCHITECTS AND THEIR ENGINEERS SERIOUSLY CONSIDER SOME OF THESE MITIGATION STRATEGIES AS PART OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THEN BRING THAT AGAIN TO THE DELIGHT OF NOT JUST THE PLANNING COMMISSION BUT ALL US WHO ARE EAGER TO SEE THESE THINGS PUT IN PLACE THAT WOULD BE OVER AND ABOVE THE VOTE TONIGHT A RECOMMENDATION I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND IF WE'RE INTERESTED. THANKS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WAS A HALF SECOND BEFORE COUNCILMEMBER MOMENT. I'LL BE QUICK. MY COMMENTS ARE VIRTUALLY THE SAME AS THEY WERE FOR KENNEDY. I'D JUST REITERATE THAT I AGREE WITH REGARDS TO THE PARKING AND I HOPE THAT THE SCHOOL CAN TALK TO THAT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET PEOPLE TO GO PARK OVER THERE BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT WILL BE A CHALLENGE THERE THAT THEY HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY CAN OVERCOME AND UTILIZE THAT PARKING. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN MAYOR, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE. I'D LOVE TO SEE COUNCILMEMBER DE SANTORO'S SUGGESTIONS ADDED IN SOME FORMAT TO THE MOTION THAT I'M ABOUT TO MAKE HERE OR IF HESITATE TO ADD IT TO THE MOTION BUT I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT A STAFF DIRECTION. HOW ABOUT THAT? AND I DON'T I'M GOOD WITH THAT AS LONG AS YOU'RE WITH THAT GREAT. THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION HERE I'LL MOVE A RESOLUTION ADOPTING FINDINGS FACT AND ORDER DENYING PETITION FOR DISCRETIONARY ENVIRONMENTAL WORKSHEET FOR THE BOYNTON JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND VOTE COUNCILMEMBER TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION ADOPTING FINDINGS OF FACT AND ORDER DENYING PETITION FOR DISCRETIONARY ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET FOR THE BLOOMINGTON JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM IMPROVEMENT PROJECT COUNCIL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I JUST NEED TO MAKE A COMMENT AND THE NEWBIE HERE I DON'T KNOW AS MUCH OF ALL YOU DO I I WANT TO MAKE A APPEAL TO MY COLLEAGUES HERE THAT HIGHLY SPEAK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY. THE CITY QUALITY. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IF I RECALL CORRECTLY A IN EMERGENCY IN REGARDS TO SUSTAINABILITY. HOWEVER, WE'RE NOT LIVING UP TO ANY OF THAT. SO THAT SAID I WILL REFRAIN FROM VOTING YES ON THIS. I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? COUNCIL HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION AT SIX ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU TO THE STAFF. THANK YOU TO OUR PETITIONERS THANKS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE COUNCIL FOR THIS DISCUSSION. I THINK WE WE CHEW THIS ONE UP FOR FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET AND AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THIS IS JUST ONE STEP. I MEAN THERE ARE MORE THINGS TO DO HERE IN TERMS OF THE THE SITE PLAN AND IN FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR FOR THE THE STADIUM. SO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, I JUST WAS GOING TO SEE IF YOU WANTED TO MENTION THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THURSDAY THEN YES. AS PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT FOR THAT PROPOSAL. SO THERE WE GO COUNCIL IT IS NOW 20 MINUTES BEFORE 10:00 AND WE STILL HAVE THREE THINGS TO GET THROUGH OR THREE OR FOUR THINGS TO GET THROUGH IN OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. WE WILL START WITH ITEM 5.1 A PRESENTATION ON INVESTING IN OUR FUTURE LEVERAGING DEBT FOR ESSENTIAL CAPITAL PROJECTS WE HAVE WITH US OF COURSE LAURIE ECONOMY SHILLER TO LEAD US ALL OFF ON THIS KENNEDY MAYOR AND COUNCIL WITH ME THIS EVENING IS ELIZABETH BERGMANN ,A PRINCIPAL AT BAKER TILLY. AND WE'LL GET STARTED AS SOON AS THE KICK PRESENTATION IS THE WAY THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE DO WE HAVE TO GO SO OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING IS QUICKLY TO GO THROUGH LITTLE BIT ON HOW THIS MEETS OUR BLOOMINGTON STRATEGIC PLAN, THE FUNDING SOURCES A LITTLE BIT ON JUST WHERE WE'RE AT FOR 24 AND 25 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS IN DEBT ISSUANCE. A LONGER TERM LOOK AT 24 THROUGH 2030 ON OUR CAPITAL SOME ESG AND SOCIAL BOND INFORMATION AND SOME INTEREST RATES MOVING ON. LET'S GO RIGHT . SO WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN WITH THE PLANNED CAPITAL PROJECTS OUTLINED IN THE PRESENTATION AND WE WILL BE MEETING THE DESIRED OUTCOMES IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN WE WILL KEEP NEIGHBORS CONNECTED. WE WOULD BE CONTINUING TO HEAR WELCOMING COMMUNITY COMMUNITY WE BE IMPROVING THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND HUMAN HEALTH AND WE WOULD BE ADDRESSING SAFETY NEEDS AND OF COURSE WE WILL KEEP TO OUR MISSION TO CULTIVATE AN ENDURING AND REMARKABLE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE OUR FUNDING SOURCES. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE UTILIZE FEES, INTERNAL SERVICE CHARGES, SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS, GRANTS AND OTHER GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS POTENTIALLY THE SEC CHARGES THAT WAS THAT A PREVIOUS COUNCIL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING FOR THIS EVENING WE ARE GOING TO SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT PROPERTY AND BONDS THAT WE WOULD BE ISSUING THAT NEED PROPERTY TAX SUPPORT FOR 2024. WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF ACTIVITIES WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH COUNCIL FOR THE LAST YEAR PLUS ON THE CHARTER BONDS FOR BRYANT AND TREVOR PARKS. THEY'VE BEEN BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WHERE THERE AND HOPEFULLY THE BIDS WILL BE RELEASED SOON THEN WE CAN SCHEDULE THE DATES FOR WHEN WE'RE GOING TO SELL THE BONDS BUT WE ANTICIPATE THAT TO BE ABOUT $10.2 MILLION FOR THE YEAR BONDS YOU'LL NOTICE A QUITE A LOW NUMBER THERE IN 2022 THE COUNCIL ALLOWED US TO WE ELIZABETH AND I HAD BEEN WATCHING THE MARKET AND WE WERE NOTICING PRESSURE TO INCREASE RATES FOR INTEREST OUT THERE. SO WITH COUNCIL APPROVAL WE ISSUE BONDS FOR 2022 AND 2023. THE 22 AMOUNT WAS BASED OFF OF ACTUAL BIDS AND THE 23 AMOUNT HAD BEEN BASED OFF OF WHAT HAD BEEN IN THE CFP THEN FALL OF 22 COUNCIL APPROVED APPROXIMATELY FOUR MILES OF PROJECTS VERSUS IN THE CFP WE TEND TO HAVE ABOUT FIVE MILES IN THERE SO FOUR MILES WERE APPROVED AND THEN THE BIDS CAME IN LAST SPRING REALLY SO WE WERE ABLE TO NOT SPEND ALL OF THE 2023 BOND PROCEEDS. SO WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY POINT 9 MILLION OF UNSPENT BOND PROCEEDS AND WE ARE USING TO PAY DOWN THE BONDS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO NORMALLY ISSUE THIS FALL. SO WITH THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BE ABOUT 2.1 MILLION FOR PMP VERSUS IN THE8 MILLION RANGE. SO AND THEN THIS FALL WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO ISSUE OUR FIRST SALES TAX BONDS BIG AND THEN THEN THE PEER BONDS AND THE SALES TAX BONDS WOULD BE ON THE SAME SCHEDULE OF TIMING WOULD ISSUE THE BONDS OR SELL THE BONDS IN AND CLOSE IN NOVEMBER AND THEN ON 2025 FOR THE GARAGE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE BOUGHT THE LAND FOR THAT WE BOUGHT A BUILDING AND THEN IN THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING OR TWO AGO THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE ARCHITECT FOR THE GARAGE SO THAT IT'S UNDERWAY AND LOOKING TO PROBABLY ISSUE DEBT EARLY IN 2025. THE PR BONDS ARE WHAT IS LISTED IN OUR CIP AND THEN IN LATE 2025 WE WOULD ALSO ISSUE THE SALES TAX BONDS FOR THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AND THEN MOVING ON TO A LITTLE BIT LONGER LOOK YOU'LL SEE THE 24 AND 25 AND THEN IN 26 WE HAVE IN THE BLUE AREA WE HAVE DUPONT AND THEN THE FIRE STATIONS AND THEN PARKS PARKS ARE ON EVERY OTHER YEAR YOU'VE SEEN IN THE CIP FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS TWO JOHN THEY BOTH NEED GOLF COURSE IMPROVEMENTS . THEY'RE BUILDING OTHER PARK IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN THE FIRE STATIONS ON THE PIER SIDE THAT'S BEEN OUT THERE CONSISTENT SINCE THE EARLY 1990S AND I JUST WANT TO GO BACK IN HISTORY A LITTLE BIT SIX YEARS AGO IN THE SPRING OF 2018 SOME OF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT WE DID THAT AND IT MIGHT NOT SEEM LONG AGO BUT IT WAS 2018 BECAUSE I BELIEVE COUNCILMEMBER WAS PART OF THAT AND THAT'S HE STARTED WITH THE CITY IN 2018 SO I KNEW WHAT DATE I COULD LOOK FOR. SO WHEN WE TALKED OVER IT PUBLIC THAT THAT EVENING IT WAS JUST ON THE BLUE AREA IT WASN'T THE PURPLE AREA FOR PUBLIC WORKS IT WAS JUST THE BLUE AREA PARKS WERE 2 MILLION EVERY OTHER YEAR ALL THE FIRE STATIONS WERE LESS THAN 10 MILLION AND THE GRANT WAS LESS THAN 20 MILLION WE'VE PUSHED THE TIMING OF THESE OUT AND WITH THAT PUSHING WE INCREASED THE PRICES SO BACK THEN WHEN WE LOOKED AT THESE WE ALSO HAVE COVERED THAT HASN'T DROPPED MATERIALS BACK TO ANYWHERE NEAR NORMAL SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE PARKS BASED OFF OF MORE OF THE PARK MASTER PLAN WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BLUE AREA BACK THEN WE WERE LOOKING AT A 1 TO 1 AND A HALF PERCENT TAX LEVY. WHAT GENERAL RANGE BACK THEN WE'RE NOT NOW. SO MR. MAYOR CAN I JUMP IN ON SALARY DO THAT WE ALSO HAD ONE DEBT ISSUE BACK THEN THAT IN AT 1.86% OR SO WHICH IS ANOTHER FACTOR THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER IS THAT THE COST OF ISSUANCES FAR BEYOND WHAT IT WAS BACK WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS EVEN IN 2022 WHEN WE DID THAT BOND ISSUE FOR TWO YEARS OF PIPE IT WAS IN THE LOW TOOTH WE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF HIGH THREE TO MID FORCE FOR A TAX EXEMPT BOND DEPENDING ON THE DAY ELIZABETH WE'LL GO MORE INTO THAT. SO THEN YOU'VE SEEN THIS HUGE PIECE BROKEN UP FOR MANY YEARS SO I JUST WANTED TO GET YOU THROUGH WHAT THIS KIND OF LOOKS LIKE. SO WE FOCUS FIRST ON THE BLUE GRAPH THERE YOU CAN SEE YOU'RE NOT PUSH NOW OH IT DOESN'T EVEN YOU CAN SEE IF THE AUDIENCE IS LOOKING FOR 2025 THE P BLOCK THERE IF ANYONE CAN SEE THAT THERE OTHERWISE I DON'T KNOW IF THE CURSOR CAN THERE IS THE CURSOR ON 2025 FOR THE BLUE YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE DIP TO 2.1 MILLION IS ON THE BLUE BLOCK FOR PMP AND THEN THE STEADY INFLATION FLEETING PEAK BY YEAR AT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT NORMAL RANGE OF INFLATION ON MATERIAL COSTS THEN I'LL JUMP TO THE YELLOW WHICH IS YOUR STATE. THERE'S CHARTER BRONZE. WE'VE ISSUED A COUPLE OF CHARTER BONDS AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE OUR NEXT ONE AND YOU CAN SEE IN 2025 WHERE IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE 25 LEVY IT INCREASING AND THEN AND THEN YOU CAN SLOWLY SEE THAT WE ARE ISSUING THAT SAME BLOCK GOING TO BE THE SAME FOR TWO YEARS IN A ROW AND THEN INCREASE TWO YEARS IN A ROW AND INCREASE AND THEN THE RED BLOCK YOU CAN SEE WHEN WE'RE ADDING OUR FIRE STATION THE NEXT FIRE STATION IS GOING TO BE ADDED 26 WHICH WILL IMPACT THE 27 LEVY. ANOTHER ONE WILL BE BUILT IN 27 IMPACTING THE 28 LEVY. WE'RE GOING TO SKIP A YEAR AND THEN YOU HAVE 29 WE'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER ONE AND IT WILL IMPACT 31. SO YOU SEE THE FIRE STATIONS BEING AT IT, THE GARAGE, THE GREEN BLOCK WILL REMAIN THE SAME SIZE THE ENTIRE DURATION OF THE MATURITY. SO THERE'S THAT AND THEN THE BLACK BOX ON THE BOTTOM IS WHERE WE'VE ESTIMATED A RANGE OF WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO INCREASE THE TAX LEVY BY TO PAY FOR THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS . SO THE FIRST ONE UP HERE ARE THE PARKS AND DEPENDING ON HOW THE FINAL LEVY FOR 2025 IS WE WOULD NEED ANYWHERE BETWEEN THREE QUARTERS OF A PERCENT, 2% AND A QUARTER FOR THE GARAGE WHICH IS THAT BIG BUMP FOR 20 BUILT IN 20 YOU KNOW BOND ISSUE 1025 FOR 26 DEPENDING AGAIN ON THE LEVIES WHICH NONE OF US THAT MIRROR OF METRO BUT ANYWHERE BETWEEN TO THREE AND A HALF IS WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO INCREASE FOR THE GARAGE. SO IT GOES ON. SO THIS IS WHERE WE'VE MOVED THINGS OUT ON THE CALENDAR FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND THIS IS COMPACTING IT OVER THE NEXT SIX. SO THESE ARE JUST FUEL FOR THAT'S AS WE'RE APPROACHING THE LEVY AND THE SEASON AND THINGS OUT THERE WE CAN SLOW ANY OF THIS DOWN BUT AGAIN YOU KNOW IT'S PUSHING DWAN OUT ANOTHER YEAR FIRE STATIONS OUT MORE YEARS. THESE ARE ESSENTIAL CITY SERVICES AND ESSENTIAL CITY BIDS. THANKS SO. THINK ABOUT THOSE AND I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER, ELIZABETH TO TALK. WELL, I THINK I GOT A COUPLE MORE. I THINK SO TOO. BUT I WASN'T SURE I WAS GOING WITH YOU I'M GOING TO ON SOCIAL BONDS NOW SOMETHING FUN SO I THINK MOST OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO OR WE'LL BE AT CONFERENCES WHERE YOU HEAR THE ACRONYM ESG ENVIRONMENTAL SOCIAL AND GOVERNANCE GOVERNMENTAL OUR CREDIT RATING HAVE STARTED ADDING MORE AND MORE TO WHAT WE NEED TO PUT IN OUR OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS ON ESG DO GIVE AWAY AS BEST PRACTICES FOR US TO WATCH AND FOLLOW BUT OUR CONFERENCES OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS I'VE GATHERED DATA AND BRIANNA AND I WORKED ON THIS TO TRY TO REALLY MAKE IT ABOUT US SO WE CAN ISSUE UNDER ENVIRONMENTAL LIKE SOCIAL OR IF WE'RE BUYING A LOT OF VEHICLES UNDERNEATH THEIR WATER. WE DID ISSUE A GREEN BOND A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IN 2019 WE'RE LOOKING TO ISSUE A SOCIAL BOND FOR THE PARK BONDS AND IF YOU LOOK AT GOVERNANCE YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF CATEGORIES THERE THAT ARE REALLY COMPLIANCE OR FINANCE OR ABOUT YOU GUYS AS GOVERNMENT HOW WE REGULATORY THE CITY GOVERNANCE IS WHERE WE SCORE THE HIGHEST WITH OUR CREDIT RATING AGENCIES. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AND ALL THE STAFF THAT HELP US MAINTAIN THAT GOVERNANCE. SO IN OUR SOCIAL BOND FRAMEWORK AS SOON IT GETS VALIDATED BY CASTROL IT HAS FOUR MAIN COMPONENTS HOW WE'RE GOING TO USE THE PROCEEDS, HOW THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE EVALUATED AND SELECTED, HOW WE'RE GOING TO MANAGE THE PROCEEDS AND THAT REPORTING. SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE A SOCIAL BOND THAT WE WILL ISSUE THIS SUMMER AND NOW I CAN TURN IT OVER TO MR. MAYOR THIS LAURIE BEFORE YOU TURN IT OVER TO ELIZABETH, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BENEFIT OF THE OF THE ESG USE OF SOCIAL BONDS AND WHY WE'RE INTERESTED IN HAVING OUR DEBT ISSUANCE SORT OF CATEGORIZED IN THAT MANNER? YEAH, I WOULD SAY 14 MONTHS AGO A CITY MANAGER WAS AT A NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES IN WASHINGTON DC AND HE SAW A ON MUNICIPAL BONDING AND RACIAL EQUITY AND HE TEXTED FAITH AND I THAT SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND WE GOT GOING ON ADDING TWO MORE VENDORS TO OUR CERTIFICATES OF DEPOSIT LIST BIPOC AND BIPOC FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS AND THEN WE PUT FOUR APPLICATIONS INTO PUBLIC FINANCE INITIATIVE FOUR AND THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE RESOLUTION TO APPLY FOR THE GRANTS FOR THAT AND WE WON A $50,000 GRANT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SPEND ON SOME OF THE BOND ISSUANCE COSTS RELATED TO THE PARK BOARD PARK BONDS. WE WERE PART OF A COHORT WITH EIGHT OTHER LOCATIONS BLOOMINGTON BEING THE BABY. SO THE NEXT LARGEST CITY WAS PAUL PORT AUTHORITY MIXTURE. THEN WE HAD CHICAGO. ATLANTA, DALLAS KING COUNTY AND THEN THE NEVADA STATE BOND AND, THEN THE WATER DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA. SO WE WERE THE BABY AND SO WERE THE EMPHASIS OF SMALL GOVERNMENTS AND MIDSIZE AND SMALL CAN DO THIS. WE CAN PUT IN OUR PRELIMINARY OR OFFERING DOCUMENTS IN OUR OTHER DOCUMENTS MORE RACIAL EQUITY INFORMATION AND OTHER CITIES CAN DO THE SAME. THEY JUST NEED TO DOCUMENT WHETHER THEY A SOCIAL BOND OR NOT. THEY CAN ACTUALLY PUT MORE IN THERE. AND SO SOCIAL TO ME IS JUST EMPHASIZING THAT WE PUT PUTTING AN INCLUSIVE PARK WHERE INEQUITY, MORE RACIAL EQUITY WORK AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF THE CITY DOES IS EMPHASIZED WITHIN THE DOCUMENT SO WHEN MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THE REASON I ASKED YOU TO ADDRESS THAT NOT BECAUSE I WANTED YOU TO I CAN TALK ABOUT IT SAY THAT YOU KNOW JAMIE WENT TO THE NLC CONFERENCE WHEN PEOPLE ASK ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF THESE CONFERENCES WE ACTUALLY DO LEARN THINGS AND THEN WE BRING THEM BACK AND WE INCORPORATE THEM BUT THAT'S NOT REASON. THE FACT IS THAT ESG BONDS ARE REALLY GAINING MOMENTUM IN THE MARKETPLACE AND THERE ARE SPECIFIC INVESTORS AND INVESTMENT GROUPS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN PLACING THEIR FUNDS WITH THEIR THEIR PHILOSOPHICALLY ALIGNING IS WHAT'S HAPPENING. RIGHT. AND SO THE MORE THAT WE CAN DOCUMENT THAT WE ARE DOING THINGS CONSISTENT THE PHILOSOPHY OF ESG INVESTORS THE MORE COMPETITIVE WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE MARKETPLACE AND THAT DRIVES BETTER RATES WHEN WHEN PEOPLE ARE BIDDING ON ON OUR DEBT. SO THERE'S A THERE'S A FINANCIAL IS A FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC BENEFIT FOR US TO DO THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING AND THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN DEMONSTRATE IT. SO AND HATS OFF TO YOU AND TO FAITH AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WORKED MAKING SURE THAT WE GET TO THIS POINT NOW ONCE YOU SELL IT IT'S UP TO TO REALLY GET US GOOD. RIGHT. WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY IT'S CONSISTENT WITH ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHICH IS BLOOMINGTON THREE TRIPLE A'S. SO IT'S ABOUT THE MARKET REPUTATION, THE SOCIAL BOND, THE GREEN BOND, THE MARKET'S STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT. AND ACTUALLY LAURA AND I HAD WENT TO A NUMBER OF MEETINGS AND PHONE CALLS WITH INVESTORS TALKING ABOUT THAT AND I THINK INCREASINGLY IT'S THE FEEDBACK WE'RE GETTING IS IT'S ABOUT REALLY BEING PERCEIVED AS AN ACTIVE ISSUER, SOMEBODY WHO'S FOLLOWING THE MARKET, WHO'S GIVING THE MARKET THE INFORMATION THEY WANT. SO IT'S ALMOST IF YOU'RE NOT DOING IT YOU'RE FALLING BEHIND AS MUCH AS ANYTHING. SO I THINK REALLY I THINK IT'S REALLY PROGRESSIVE OF BLOOMINGTON REALLY BEING ON THE FRONT END AND HAVING ISSUED THAT GREEN BOND. WHAT IT 2018 I THINK MAYBE OR MAYBE I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH YEAR IT'S OKAY WE CAN SAY 18. ALL RIGHT. WELL I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT AROUND AROUND BLOOMINGTON AND SORT OF WHERE WHERE YOU SIT WITHIN THE MARKET, WE GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT AND THEN I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHERE THE MARKET IS NOW AND WHERE WE THINK IT IS GOING FORWARD. AND GIVEN THE HOUR I'M GOING TO BE RELATIVELY BRIEF BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. SO THE FIRST THING I WANT TO SHOW IS THIS THIS SLIDE HERE SHOWS YOUR ISSUES GOING BACK TO 2011. IT'S YOUR ALL YOUR PUBLIC DEBT AND THE DIFFERENT INTEREST RATES ON EACH OF THE ISSUES AND THEN LOOKING AT AN AVERAGE COST. SO JUST THE DOTTED LINE IS KIND OF WHERE YOU AVERAGE OUT ALL THE PUBLIC ISSUES. AND ONE OF THE POINTS I WANTED TO MAKE LORIE ALREADY ADDRESSED WAS IN 2022 LOOKING FORWARD AT THE MARKET AND THINKING ABOUT THE CITY'S NEEDS, WHAT HAD BEEN DETERMINED YOU ALL MADE A VERY WISE CHOICE WAS TO SELL THOSE TWO YEARS OF OF BORROWING NEEDS IN 2022 AT A COST THAT'S BELOW YOUR AVERAGE AND CERTAINLY WHAT WE THINK YOU WILL YOU'LL BE SELLING AT THE END OF THE YEAR. YOU CAN SEE ALSO THAT THAT THAT WHILE THERE'S PEAKS AND YOU KNOW YOUR AVERAGE COST IS AROUND 2.75 AND AS AN ANNUAL ISSUE ARE YOU GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THAT ANY GIVEN YEAR YOU MIGHT HAVE A REALLY LOW RATE OR LESS LESS FAVORABLE RATE BUT GOING TO THE MARKET ANNUALLY ALLOWS YOU TO SAMPLE THAT AND NOT FIXATE ON ANY GIVEN YEAR. THE NEXT SLIDE HERE DOES QUANTIFY BENEFIT OF THOSE THREE WAYS. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ONE THING THAT'S GREAT ABOUT THE THREE DAYS AND THAT'S BRAGGING RIGHTS. IT'S VERY FEW CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT CAN DO THAT BUT YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE MARKET IMPACT HERE AS WELL. YOU KNOW THE TRIPLE AND THE REWARDS YOU'RE GETTING THERE IS REALLY ABOUT THE MARKET RECOGNIZING THE MANAGEMENT AND FISCAL DISCIPLINE THAT THE CITY HAS PUT IN PLACE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SLIDES A LITTLE BIT THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. SO LET ME JUST TAKE A SECOND TO EXPLAIN TO YOU THE ZERO LINE IS BASICALLY WHAT A TRIPLE-A BORROWER CAN BE AT. YOU'RE NOT AT 0% BUT THAT'S THE TRIPLE-A AND YOU ARE IN THE YELLOW LINE WHICH IS A DOUBLE-A ISSUER. THAT'S HOW MANY BASIS POINTS MORE YOU YOUR BORROWING COSTS WOULD BE THAN BEING A TRIPLE-A SO IT AVERAGES ABOUT FIVE FIVE BASIS POINTS SINGLE A 23 AND THEN THE TRIPLE B WHICH IS STILL AN INVESTMENT GRADE CREDIT QUALITY BUT MANY MUNICIPAL ISSUERS SIT AT THAT LEVEL IT CAN BE UP TO 140 BASIS POINTS DIFFERENCE THERE BUT BUT YOU CAN JUST SEE THE BENEFIT THAT GETTING OF OF HAVING FIVE BASIS POINTS CHEAPER ON WELL NOT EVERY DEAL BUT ON AVERAGE ON THE YEAR DEALS WHICH OVER TIME ADDS UP TO QUITE A BIT OF MONEY SO IT'S RECOGNITION AND IT'S A POINT OF PRIDE BUT IT'S ALSO A FINANCIAL BENEFIT. THIS NEXT SLIDE TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE THE MUNICIPAL MARKET NOW ON THE FIRST ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE WHAT WE'VE GOT OUR MUNICIPAL RATES AS OF MAY 28TH AND YOU CAN SEE THERE THOSE GRAY BARS REFLECT THE MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM OF INTEREST RATES SINCE 1993 WHEN THE MMD THE MUNICIPAL MARKET DATA INDEX BEGAN BEING RECORDED YOU CAN SEE THE AVERAGE ARE THE BLACK BARS ACROSS WAY AND WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS THE TEAL. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S VERY INTERESTING IS USUALLY THE THE COST OF BORROWING GETS MORE EXPENSIVE THE FURTHER OUT YOU GET. SO IT'S A NORMALIZED YIELD CURVE BUT RIGHT NOW YOU CAN SEE IF YOU'RE BUYING FOR ONE YEAR YOU'RE AT 3.36% WHEREAS IF YOU'RE BORROWING TEN YEARS YOU'RE JUST OVER 3%. THAT'S CALLED AN INVERTED YIELD CURVE. IT HAPPENS WHEN ECONOMIC THE ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT IS UNCERTAIN AND INVESTORS ARE ARE LOOKING FOR A REWARD AND EXPECTING THAT SHORT TERM INTEREST RATES WILL GO DOWN. SO THAT'S WHERE BEEN FOR A WHILE. YOU CAN SEE OVERALL WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE INVERSION ABOUT IN THE AVERAGE SO WHILE IT FEELS LIKE INTEREST RATES HAVE BEEN YOU KNOW, RISING AND FEEL HIGHER, THEY HAVE BEEN IT'S BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN SO INCREDIBLY LOW FOR ANY NUMBER OF YEARS HERE. AND THEN ON THE RIGHT THIS GRAPH SHOWS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BENEFIT OF BEING ABLE TO ISSUE TAX EXEMPT DEBT. SO THE CORAL COLOR THAT'S OFFICIAL BAKER TILLY COLOR THERE THAT'S CORAL AND IN CASE YOU WANT TO CALL IT ORANGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IT'S CORAL. THE CORAL LINE IS WELL ABOVE THE TEAL LINE AND THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A TAX EXEMPT AND A TAXABLE RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE BENEFIT YOU GET FOR TAX EXEMPT BARRING YOU CAN SEE IT'S QUITE WIDE RIGHT NOW AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING THERE. ONE IS THAT AS INTEREST RATES ARE HIGHER THE SPREAD WIDENS. IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE WHEN YOUR INTEREST RATES ARE AT 0.5% IT'S KIND OF HARD TO HAVE A BIG SPREAD. AND THE OTHER THING THAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT IS AS THE FED IS MAKING INTEREST RATE ADJUSTMENTS, THERE IS A LITTLE LESS OF A 1 TO 1 SORT OF CORRELATION. THE FED MAKES ADJUSTMENTS BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH SLACK BETWEEN THE TWO. SO IT MAY BE THAT THE FED MIGHT RATCHET UP INTEREST RATES A LITTLE BIT AND THE MUNICIPAL RATE WILL KIND OF STAY THE SAME AND WE'VE SEEN THE MISERY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS GO UP BUT THE WHEN THEY'RE FURTHER APART THERE'S MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FED FOR THE FED RATE AND THE AND THE MUNICIPAL RATE TO BE A LITTLE A LITTLE SEPARATE IN THEIR MOVEMENT. SO WHERE DO INTEREST RATES GO FROM HERE? OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T TELL YOU THE ANSWER BECAUSE IF I COULD YOU KNOW, THE CLASSIC I WOULDN'T BE HERE. I'D BE DOING SOMETHING ELSE. BUT YOU KNOW A COUPLE IMPORTANT DRIVERS ON INTEREST RATES AS I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW INFLATION AND THEN MARKET SUPPLY. SO WE'RE ALL WATCHING TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE ECONOMY WITH UNEMPLOYMENT AND AND INFLATION AND THE TOP HERE IS THE PERSONAL CONSUMER CONSUMPTION EXPENDITURE AND THAT IS A CONSUMER BASED INFLATION METRIC. IT'S REALLY ABOUT WHAT CONSUMERS ARE DOING AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT HAS BEEN EXCEPTIONAL REALLY HIGH OVER 22 AND 23 YOU KNOW UP IN THE FOUR OR 5% AND IT HAS TAPERED OFF IN RECENT MONTHS AND THE YEAR YEAR YOUR NUMBER AS OF THE END OF THE END OF MAY WAS 2.8%. SO STILL PRETTY AS COMPARED TO WHAT THE FED IS TARGETING WHICH IS A 2% INFLATION INDEX. SO THAT SORT OF SUGGESTS THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE INFLATION RATES YOU KNOW, RATES COME DOWN INTEREST RATES AND INFLATION RATES AND THEN THE SAME IS IS THE IS NONFARM PAYROLLS. SO WE SEE THAT NORMALIZING WE'VE ADDED ABOUT 300,000 JOBS TO THE ECONOMY AND THE MOST RECENT REPORT. SO JOB CREATION IS SLOWING BUT STILL NOT SLOWING TO A POINT THAT WE THINK INTEREST RATES ARE GOING DOWN. IT'S ALSO INTERESTING KNOW THAT THE FED FUTURES THE MARKET SORT OF HAS INDICATORS OF WHERE INTEREST RATES ARE GOING AND THEN FOR SEPTEMBER THEY'RE SAYING 50 50% CHANCE YOU KNOW FLIP OF A COIN ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT INTEREST WILL GO DOWN. THE PRESIDENT OF THE MINNEAPOLIS FED HAD AN INTERVIEW OVER THE WEEKEND TALKING ABOUT WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS HAPPENING AT INTEREST RATES AND HE SAID HIGHER LONGER PROBABLY CUTS THIS YEAR BUT HE'S ONE VOICE BUT HE'S FROM MINNESOTA SO. I THOUGHT MAYBE WE WOULD SHARE HIS OPINION SO WHAT DID YOU SAY? YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE AND HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS. MR. DRAGHI THANK YOU MR. AND COUNCIL MEMBERS JUST AS A WAY WRAPPING THIS UP IN A TIDY LITTLE BOWL FOR YOU YOU KNOW THE REASON WE DO THIS AS LAURI ALLUDED AT THE BEGINNING IS YOU KNOW, WHEN WE START OUT OUR BUDGET CONVERSATION WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU THE FULL PICTURE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT JUST ON THE OPERATING SIDE BUT YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY INVESTMENT RIGHT NOW IS SIGNIFICANT AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE DECISIONS THAT YOU'RE MAKING. THE OTHER THING THAT I I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY DO IS COMMEND LAURI BECAUSE NOT MANY CITIES HAVE THE TYPE OF MODELING THAT WE DO OR EMPLOY THIS TO THE EXTENT THAT WE DO WE FOUND OUT DURING THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON SOME LANGUAGE THAT CONCERNED US THAT WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW CITIES THAT HAS A TEN YEAR CAP. MANY CITIES HAVE A THREE YEAR OR FIVE YEAR CAP. THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL. BUT TO HAVE A TEN YEAR CAP THAT ALSO THEN CONNECTS BACK TO A LONG TERM DEBT MODEL IS UNIQUE AND SO LORRIE AND HER TEAM GET A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THAT AND THANK YOU TO ELIZABETH FOR THE SUPPORT THAT YOU PROVIDE IN THAT BUT YOU KNOW ANOTHER OF OUR CUSTOMERS HAVE THIS RIGHT SO LAURIE IS GOING TO VALIDATE LAURIE BUILT THAT MODEL AND IT TOOK TWO MEETINGS FOR ME TO FULLY GRASP . SHE PUT IT ALL TOGETHER AND IT'S IT'S IMPRESSIVE AND IT'S JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHERE I THINK THAT BLOOMINGTON IS REALLY DEMONSTRATING LEADERSHIP AND IN HOW WE APPROACH THINGS AND THAT'S WHY WE KEEP GETTING THOSE TRIPLE TRIPLE-A RATINGS IS BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT OF THE ORGANIZATION AND THIS IS ANOTHER INDICATION OF WHY IT IS THE WAY IT IS. ANSWER QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBER ALESSANDRA I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION I JUST HAVE A QUICK COMMENT AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THE ESD STUFF. I WORK WITH A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU KNOW THEIR REQUIREMENT AS LAW FIRMS ARE TO NOW INCLUDE THIS AND BECAUSE THEIR CUSTOMERS ARE NOW BEING ASKED AS THEY EITHER GO FOR FUNDING OR THEY GO TO THEIR PUBLIC HEARING YOU KNOW THEIR PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT RIGHT. AND OF COURSE THE U.N. ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE OF GLOBAL OPERATIONS THE U.N. HAS THE SDG GOALS VERY SOON. THE SEVEN YEARS. YEP. YES EXACTLY. AND SO EVERYONE HAS TO FIGURE OUT LIKE WHICH OF THEM ARE THEY, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THAT AND HOW THEY PUT THAT TOGETHER SO FACT THAT NORMALLY, YOU KNOW, MUNICIPAL MUNICIPALITIES OR LIKE GOVERNMENT IS USUALLY BEHIND THE TIMES ON THAT EVEN THOUGH THE GOVERNMENT CREATES REGULATION WHATEVER. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PULLING THAT TOGETHER, LETTING ME KNOW THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. I DID NOT KNOW THAT IT HAD KIND OF CREEPED INTO THE MUNICIPAL MARKETS BUT IT MAKES SENSE THAT IT WOULD AND BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS NEED IT FOR THEIR FOLKS ETC. ETC. SO THANKS VERY MUCH FOR INCLUDING THAT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING AND I'M HAPPY TO TALK OFFLINE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I'LL NERD OUT WITH YOU ON IT. OKAY, LET'S REMEMBER. WOMAN THANK YOU, MAYOR SO I DO REMEMBER SITTING WHAT HERE IN 2018 IT WAS SOMEPLACE ELSE BUT IF WE WERE TO TAKE A YOU KNOW, I HAVE TIME TRAVEL TO 2028 AND LOOK AT AT THIS THIS GRAPH IN ORDER TO LOOK IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE WOULD HAVE DONE, WOULD YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS FROM FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF , YOU KNOW, MAYBE SMOOTHING THIS OUT AT ALL IN ANY ADVICE YOU DID GIVE US? I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT I HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO JUST PICK ONE ONE QUESTION. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE GARAGE WAS OUT THERE IN 2016. IT'S GOING BE NINE YEARS BEFORE WE ISSUE BONDS FOR IT. IT'S JUST WE'VE JUST MOVED THE TIME AND THE PRICE REALLY INCREASED. IT'S TIME. I MEAN COUNCIL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR NOT REALLY QUESTION JUST COMMENTS LOOKING AT THERE ARE A LOT OF EMOTIONS THAT GO THROUGH IT RIGHT. YOU KNOW I'M I REMEMBER IT IS HARD TO PUT TOGETHER YES AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO. I FIND THAT HARD TO DO RIGHT. IT'S NOT TOWARDS YOU. IT'S IT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY. RIGHT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF KANKAKEE IN IT WE CAN SEE THAT WE NEED TO INVEST IN BLOOMINGTON. BUT ALSO THERE'S THE REALITIES THAT WE HAVE TO FACE THE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON TODAY WHERE INFLATION IS HIGH, PEOPLE CAN'T KEEP UP COST 100 BUCKS TO GO BUY EGGS AND MILK AND BREAD AT THE STORE. AND SO HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO INVEST IN BLOOMINGTON WHILE NOT CONTINUING TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD? RIGHT. IT'S WHERE DO WE TAKE A STAND? WHERE DO WE WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS GET THE UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR CITY WHILE WE BUILT A GREAT CITY IS JUST OLD AND WE NEED TO REBUILD IT SO THAT WE CAN LAST ANOTHER 60, 70 YEARS. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF EMOTIONS THAT GO INTO IT. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I PERSONALLY TAKE LIGHTLY AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BECAUSE IT'S IT'S A BIG MOUNTAIN COMING THAT WE'RE CLIMBING. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL BUT VERY GOOD. THANK YOU MUCH. THANKS FOR STICKING IT OUT WITH US LATE TONIGHT. AND SPEAKING OF LATE NIGHT AND IN 5.2 ON OUR AGENDA IS THE SOLID WASTE STUDY PRESENTATION . GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS GOOD EVENING FOR HAVING US HERE THIS EVENING. SO WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS OUR SOLID WASTE RATE STUDY MY NAME IS LAURA HORNER. I'M THE CITY SOLID WASTE PROGRAM COORDINATOR HERE WITH ELLEN BALAS, OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND KARL KIEL, THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS ALSO JOINING US VIRTUALLY ARE OUR CONSULTANTS. DR. LISA SUKUMAR AND ANNE GIBBS AND WE MIGHT WANT TO JUST PAUSE, MAKE SURE THEY HAVE AUDIO BEFORE WE GET GOING . OKAY. I SAW LISA ON THERE. OH OH LISA I THINK WE CAN HEAR YOU. CAN YOU HEAR US? YES. GREAT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. SO AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO REVIEW OUR SOLID WASTE RATE STUDY COUNCIL MAY RECALL THAT WE RECEIVED DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL BACK IN 2023 AS WELL AS FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION TO CONDUCT A RATE STUDY THE COUNCIL WAS INTERESTED IN THIS FOR SEVERAL DIFFERENT REASONS ARE WE GETTING THEM WE'RE TRYING TO TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES OR IS NOT REFLECTING WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM THE FIRST OF THE KIND OF REASONS REALLY IS ABOUT JUST THE RISING COST GARBAGE DISPOSAL AS THAT COST CONTINUES TO INCREASE THE CITY IS TRYING TO KEEP OUR SOLID WASTE RATES FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND WE CAN DO THAT WHILE MOTIVATING RESIDENTS TO REDUCE WASTE, RECYCLE AND COMPOST MORE LOOKING AT THE STRUCTURE OF OUR GARBAGE RATES FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE COSTS OF GARBAGE CURRENTLY OUR RESIDENTIAL GARBAGE IS PROCESSED AT THE HENNEPIN ENERGY RECOVERY CENTER ALSO KNOWN HERC WHERE IT IS INCINERATED TO PRODUCE ELECTRICITY AND THAT COUNTY SUBSIDIZED DISPOSAL COST AT HERC HAS INCREASED 34% IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS FROM $58 A TON IN 2019 TO $78 A TON IN 2024. SO WE KNOW THAT THOSE COSTS ARE ONLY CONTINUE TO INCREASE WE THE COSTLY INFILL HAS ALSO INCREASED EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANTLY DUE TO LIMITED LANDFILLING SPACE SO. WE REALLY WANT TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO CONTROL THE COSTS OF GARBAGE. WE KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THE COST TO RECYCLE AND AND COMPOST ALSO INCREASES AS WELL BUT IT'S JUST NOT AT THAT SAME RATE AS GARBAGE. SO THE THE OTHER REASON WE KNOW THAT OUR GARBAGE RESIDENTIALLY IS TAXED FAIRLY HEAVILY BY BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE STATE AND RECYCLING AND COMPOSTING IS NOT TAXED. SO THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD REASONS FOR US TO CONTINUE TO DIVERT THAT WASTE FOR JUST THE COST SAVINGS ALONE FOR RESIDENTS. AND REALLY THAT SECOND REASON IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS. NOT ONLY IS IT MORE COST EFFECTIVE, IT'S ALSO ENVIRONMENTALLY PREFERABLE TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF WASTE THAT RESIDENTS ARE GENERATING. WE KNOW THAT CONTINUING TO DIVERT IS ONE OF THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND ALSO LIGHT OF RECENT CONVERSATIONS REGARDING HERC. WE KNOW THAT THE COUNTY ALSO HAS A LOT OF INTEREST IN DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO REALLY REDUCE AMOUNT OF WASTE THAT'S PRODUCED IT KIND OF IN THE HOPES OF SHUTTING DOWN THAT FACILITY. SO IT'S REALLY BECOME A PRESSING ISSUE. WE KNOW THAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE PROGRAMS FOR THE CITY TO BE IMPLEMENTING RELATED TO REDUCING WASTE. AND LASTLY JUST FOR OUR RESIDENTS IN GENERAL, WE HAVE HEARD INTEREST FROM THE COUNCIL TO HELP FIND A WAY THAT WE CAN REDUCE REDUCE OUR RATES FOR SMALL OF WASTE. WE KNOW THAT A LARGE MAJORITY OF HOUSEHOLDS IN BLOOMINGTON ARE SINGLE FAMILY. YOU KNOW, ONE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE LIVING IN THOSE HOMES THAT DO NOT A LOT OF WASTE AND SEVERAL DO LIVE ON FIXED INCOME. SO I KNOW THAT WE HEAR IN COUNCIL HEARS A LOT FROM RESIDENTS ON FIXED INCOMES THAT WOULD LIKE TO FIND A WAY TO REDUCE THEIR GARBAGE BILLS SO. THAT'S JUST TO FRAME IT FOR YOU KIND OF WHY WE'RE HERE. WHAT THE THE URGENCY WAS RELATED TO THE STUDY BRIEFLY BEFORE WE GO INTO THE INFORMATION FROM SARAH. I WANT TO JUST SET A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND RELATED TO HOW WE CURRENTLY SET OUR RATES SO FOR OUR GARBAGE PROGRAM WHAT WE CHARGE RESIDENTS FOR GARBAGE SERVICE IS VERY REFLECTIVE OF EXACTLY WHAT THE HAULERS CHARGE US FOR SERVICE WE ADD A SMALL ADMINISTRATIVE FEE ON THAT AND THEN A TAX AND FEE FROM THE COUNTY AND STATE SO THE HAULERS DO RESIDENTS CAN CHOOSE BETWEEN THE SMALL MEDIUM AND LARGE CART AND THERE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENCE IN COSTS THERE FROM WHAT THE HAULERS CHARGE THAT'S REQUIRED BY STATE LAW. BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT INCREASE IN COST BIT BETWEEN THE CART SIZES IS VERY MINIMAL AND IT'S NOT REALLY LIKELY TO INFLUENCE BEHAVIOR WHICH WE'LL GO INTO LATER. SO THAT'S OUR GARBAGE RATES AND THEN FOR RECYCLING AND ORGANICS WE KNOW THAT ALL RESIDENTS DO PAY FOR RECYCLING AND ORGANICS KIND OF REGARDLESS THEIR USE AND PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM EVERYONE PAYS THAT SAME AMOUNT FOR BOTH OF THOSE SERVICES. YOU CAN GET THREE RECYCLING CARTS IF YOU WANTED TO AND IT'S STILL GOING TO COST YOU THAT SAME RATE FOR THAT. SO THERE'S ALWAYS AN THAT MOTIVATION TO PUT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN IN THOSE CARTS. AND THEN VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT OUR PROCESS, WE REALLY START THE RATE SETTING PROCESS RIGHT ABOUT NOW WHEN WE FIRST PROPOSE OUR PRELIMINARY BUDGETS IN JUNE WE DO A DETAILED CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNCIL IN OCTOBER WHERE WE WILL REVIEW RATES AND THEN THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING IN NOVEMBER AND THOSE RATES ARE ULTIMATELY ADOPTED AS PART OF THE COUNCIL'S BUDGET PROCESS. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES WITH COUNCIL TO REVIEW THE RATES AS WELL. SO SO WITH I WILL TURN IT OVER TO LISA. LISA SQUATS WITH SARAH. WE KNOW THAT THE REALLY THE TRICK TO OPERATING A SUCCESSFUL PSU THROUGH A PROGRAM IS TO FIND THAT SWEET SPOT OF ENCOURAGING THE WASTE REDUCTION BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE BRINGING IN ENOUGH REVENUE TO OPERATE THIS PROGRAM. SO WE HAVE REALLY RELIED ON THEIR EXPERTIZE PIECE AND SOME REALLY DETAILED MODELS THAT LISA WILL REVIEW. SARAH HAS CONDUCTED STUDIES RELATED PAY AS YOU THROW ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THEY FREQUENTLY CONSULT WITH THE U.S. EPA TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THESE SORTS OF PROGRAMS. SO WE'RE REALLY LUCKY TO HAVE THEM. AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO LISA FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANKS VERY MUCH. I'M ASSUMING YOU CAN STILL HEAR ME. WE CAN. OKAY. THANKS FOR THAT INTRODUCTION THAT KIND INTRODUCTION LAURA AND THE TOPIC OF SOLID WASTE RATES CAN BE COMPLEX BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON KEY CONCEPTS AND RESULTS FOR HIGH LEVEL DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL. NEXT SLIDE. SO WHY IS CITY CONSIDERING PAY AS YOU THROW RATE? IT'S BECAUSE THE CITY WANTS TO INCREA RECYCLING ORGANICS DIVERSION AND REDUCE TRASH AND PAY AS YOU THROW HAS FOUND TO BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND MOST COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO ACHIEVE GOAL. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT PAY AS YOU THROW DOESN'T MEAN NEW TRUCKS. NEXT SLIDE INSTEAD. THE WAY IT WORKS IS IT'S A DIFFERENT BILLING, DIFFERENT KIND OF BILLING SYSTEM. YOU HAVE A HIGHER BILL IF YOU TO PUT TO USE MORE TRASH SERVERS AND A LOWER BILL IF YOU USE LESS TRASH SERVICE AND THAT INCENTIVE PROVIDES YOU AN INCENTIVE FOR A SMALLER TRASH CAN BY REMOVING RECYCLING AND ORGANICS AND PUTTING THEM IN THE PROGRAMS THAT LAURA JUST TALKED ABOUT. IT'S AND SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT WORKS IT'S MAINLY A CHANGE IN BILLING. THERE'S STRONG EVIDENCE THAT IT WORKS. THE STATISTICAL WORK HAS SHOWN THAT PAGE YOU THROW LEADS TO 17% LESS TRASH IN THE RESIDENTIAL WASTE STREAM. ABOUT A THIRD OF IT GOES TO RECYCLING, ABOUT A THIRD OF IT GOES TO ORGANICS AND A THIRD OF IT GOES TO SOURCE REDUCTION OR WASTE PREVENTION BUYING MORE CAREFULLY USING YOU KNOW, BRINGING MORE THINGS TO GOODWILL THINGS LIKE THAT THINGS THAT END UP NOT IN THE LANDFILL AT ALL AND THEREFORE NO COST TO THE CITY BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEING COLLECTED AT ALL ANYMORE. THE ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT PAY AS YOU THROW IS THE MOST COST OF MORE THAN 15 OPTIONS THAT IT MONITORS AS POSSIBILITIES FACILITIES TO UNDERTAKE TO TRY TO INCREASE RECYCLING AND DIVERSION . BUT ALL PAY AS YOU THROW SYSTEMS ARE NOT THE SAME ON. THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEST PRACTICES FOR STRONG PAY AS YOU THROW AND THERE ARE SEVERAL FEATURES THAT ARE REQUIRED YOU NEED TO HAVE RATE INCENTIVES. AS LAURA MENTIONED, THERE'S A SWEET SPOT IN IN SORT OF THE GOALS WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. BUT WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT THE SWEET SPOT IN THE RATE INCENTIVE THAT ACTUALLY CAUSES PEOPLE TO CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR YOU DON'T GET A LOT MORE RECYCLING BY DOUBLING DOUBLING COSTS OR TRIPLING OR YOU KNOW, CHARGING MORE THAN THAN TWICE AS MUCH OR TWICE OUT OF SERVICE. BUT YOU DO GET STRUCK BUT YOU ALSO DON'T GET STRONG RECYCLING IF YOU CHARGE SAY 10% OR 20% MORE FOR THAT EXTRA AND OF OBSERVERS THE SWEET SPOT IS PEOPLE CHANGE, THEY RECYCLE MORE IF THAT EXTRA CAN COST THEM ABOUT 50 TO 80% MORE THAN THE FIRST CAN. SO THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE STRONG ENOUGH RATE INCENTIVES TO TO CAUSE A DIFFERENCE AND CAUSE THAT CHANGE IN BEHAVIOR. YOU ALSO NEED TO NOT SAY YOUR NEXT TRASH CAN IS GOING TO COST MORE BUT GOOD LUCK FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT. YOU NEED TO HAVE CONVENIENT RECYCLING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO USE FOR A PRODUCTIVE NEW SYSTEM. YOU NEED TO HAVE SMALL CAN OR SMALL SERVICE OPTIONS FOR SMALL DISPOSALS TO PROVIDE THEM INCENTIVES AND AND REALISTIC THINGS TO IN ORDER FOR THEM TO SAVE MONEY AND MINIMAL BARRIERS TO RECYCLING YOU NEED TO HAVE THE STRONG KIND OF STRONG OUTREACH THAT THE CITY ALREADY HAS AND YOU NEED TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT YOU EVALUATE HOW THE PROGRAM IS DOING ON A ROUTINE BASIS SO THAT IT CAN KEEP UP ITS STRONG PERFORMANCE. NEXT SLIDE WE ASSESSED BLOOMINGTON'S CURRENT SOLID WASTE PROGRAM AND MADE SOME COMPARISONS TO TRY TO FIGURE AGAINST BEST PRACTICES TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WAS THE ROOM TO GROW? WHERE WAS THE ROOM TO IMPROVE ? THE CITY ALREADY HAS A STRONG PROGRAM. THEY ALREADY HAVE A PAGE YOU THROW SYSTEM IT'S SO WE'RE NOT STARTING FROM ZERO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO INTRODUCE A NEW PROGRAM. YOU HAVE STRONG OPTIMIZED COLLECTION AND DIVERSION PROGRAMS ALREADY YOU ALREADY HAVE WEEKLY COLLECTION OF FOOD WASTE. YOU HAVE THE OPTION FOR WEEKLY COLLECTION OF YARD WASTE. YOU HAVE THE OPTION FOR YOU HAVE EVERY OTHER WEEK A RECYCLING AND YOU HAVE TRASH COLLECTION. NOW YOU MIGHT THINK THAT EVERY OTHER WEEK RECYCLING AS GOOD AS WEEKLY RECYCLING BUT AS IT TURNS OUT EVERY WEEK RECYCLING IS ACTUALLY OPTIMAL BECAUSE IF YOU WENT TO WEEKLY RECYCLING YOU WOULD ONLY GAIN ABOUT 1 TO 3 PERCENTAGE POINTS MORE RECYCLING BUT IT WOULD COST YOU TWICE AS MUCH. IT TURNS OUT THAT THOSE EXTRA COST YOU WHAT FIVE TIMES AS MUCH AS THE INITIATIVE COST OF THE TONS FROM EVERY OTHER WEEK COLLECTION YOU GAIN A LITTLE AND YOU COST A LOT SO IT'S A REALLY WELL OPTIMIZED SYSTEM AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS . YOU'VE GOT A NETWORK OF QUALITY SUPPORTING SERVICES MEANING YOUR SYSTEM FOR COLLECTION OF EXTRAS FOR YEARS WHEN THERE'S OVERFLOW FOR BULKY ITEMS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO THAT'S A WELL-INTEGRATED SYSTEM AS WELL AND YOU HAVE A REALLY STRONG ENGAGEMENT CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT SYSTEM WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKING SURE THAT CUSTOMERS UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING WHY YOU'RE DOING IT, HOW THEY CAN MAKE IT WORK FOR THEM, THAT SORT OF THING. THOSE THINGS ARE ALL CONCLUSIONS THAT IT'S A GOOD BASE THAT HAS SOME EASY POTENTIALLY EASY REFINEMENTS. IT CAN BE DONE TO MAKE IT A STRONGER AND MORE AND HIGHER PERFORMING SYSTEM. THE THINGS THAT WE SEE IN PARTICULAR ARE THAT YES HAVE CURRENTLY PAY AS YOU THROW BUT IT'S NOT IN THAT SWEET SPOT OF PRICE INCENTIVE . IT'S MUCH LOWER THAN THAT DEPENDING ON HOW YOU MEASURE IT IT'S ONLY 18 TO 34% FOR TWICE AS MUCH SERVICE NOT 50 TO 80% MORE FOR TWICE AS MUCH SERVICE. SO THAT'S A THAT'S AN AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT THE ANOTHER OPTION ANOTHER THING TO LOOK AT IS THE WAY THAT YOU CHARGE CURRENTLY YOU HAVE A BASE FEE FOR SOME SERVICES THAT COVERING RECYCLING AND THE FOOD WASTE PROGRAM AND THEN THE THE EXTRA AND THEN THE TRASH OPTION SET THE TRASH AMOUNT OPPOSITE OF AS IS A SEPARATE PART OF IT THAT THAT CAN PROVIDE SOME LESS OPTIMAL SIGNALS THAN A SYSTEM WHERE EVERYTHING IS EMBEDDED SO. WE WILL LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. YOU HAVE SERVICE OPTIONS. YOU HAVE SERVICE UP TO AS LOW AS A GALLON AND SOME SERVICE BUT MANY OTHER CITIES HAVE A SMALLER HAVE A SMALLER SERVICE OPTION THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANTED TO ALSO LOOK FOR A REWARD FOR THOSE THOSE STRONG RECYCLERS IN YOUR COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME OF THE CLEARED IS THAT WE CAN CONSIDER FOR INCREASING DIVERSION IN BLOOMINGTON NEXT ONE THERE'S A LOT TO MODEL FOR THIS SYSTEM NEXT NEXT SLIDE THERE'S A LOT TO MODEL FOR THIS SYSTEM AND WE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A MODEL THAT WELL REFLECTED BLOOMINGTON. SO WE DID SOME DATA COLLECTION THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO TO THE SUCCESSFUL MODELING OF THE PROGRAM. WE DID TWO MAJOR EFFORTS. ONE OF THEM WAS A SET OUT SURVEY AND THAT'S A THAT IS WHERE PEOPLE GO OUT IN THE FIELD AND THEY THEY WAY THEY AND AND THINK ABOUT HOW FULL THEY ARE THE VOLUME OF 514 RANDOM HOUSEHOLDS AROUND THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO WELL REPRESENT THE CITY AND WE DESIGNED IT THE STAFF THE CITY CONDUCTED WE ANALYZED IT IT WAS A NICE JOINT EFFORT. WE ALSO DID A CUSTOMER SURVEY AND WE HAD TWO PARTS TO THE CUSTOMER SURVEY. ONE WAS A A A REPRESENTATIVE SURVEY WHERE SPECIFIC HOUSEHOLDS WERE REQUESTED TO RESPOND TO RESPOND AND THEY REPRESENTED REPRESENTED THE CITY STATISTICALLY AND THAT WAS 100 RESPONDENTS. WE ALSO HAD IT BE AN OPEN SURVEY AND THAT OPEN SURVEY 760 PEOPLE RESPONDED TO THE THE NOTICE THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE NEWSLETTER, THE WEBSITE AND SO ON. BUT THAT'S NOT GENERALLY REPRESENTATIVE. WHAT WE USUALLY FIND IS THAT PEOPLE THAT RESPOND TO AN OPEN SURVEY ARE THOSE WHO ARE VERY INTERESTED . IT'S MORE ROBUST AND USEFUL DATA ON USAGE OF YOU KNOW OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS ON SUPPORT AND ON ON THEIR LIKELIHOOD TAKING UNDERTAKING CERTAIN CHANGES WHERE UNDER THE NEW SYSTEM WE USED A TO LOCALIZE OUR MODEL OF BLOOMINGTON DATA NEXT TIME SO THAT'S SOME VERY IMPORTANT FINDINGS FROM THE SETUP RIGHT AND THE DATA COLLECTION EFFORTS FROM THE SURVEY AND ONE IS FIRST PEOPLE ARE ONLY USING ABOUT HALF OF THE AMOUNT OF SERVICE THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE AVERAGE CURRENT IS JUST A LITTLE OVER HALF FULL SO EVEN WITHOUT BEHAVIOR CHANGE PEOPLE SHIFT DOWN AND CONTAINER SIZES. SECOND ABOUT MORE THAN HALF OF THE HOUSES COULD DIVERT MORE SCRAPS THAT ARE CURRENTLY GOING INTO THE GARBAGE CAN AND ONLY ABOUT PERCENT OF THE HOUSEHOLDS USE THE ORGANICS PROGRAM. THIRD, 40% OF HOUSEHOLDS COULD DIVERT MORE YARD WASTE AND FORTH 90 5% SAID THEIR RECYCLING CONTAINERS ARE MORE THAN HALF FULL. AND IF WE SWITCHING TO A SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO ENCOURAGE MORE RECYCLING THEN THAT'S GOING TO START BECOME A CAPACITY ISSUE 65% HAVE THE 65 GALLON RATHER THAN THE 95 GALLON CART. THAT IS LIKELY SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE FOR A SUCCESSFUL NEW PROGRAM. ALSO FROM THE SURVEY WE GOT THEIR INTEREST MOVING TO A SMALLER ECONOMY. WE FOUND THAT MORE THAN HALF WERE INTERESTED SWITCHING TO A GARBAGE A SMALLER GARBAGE CART IF THEY WERE ABLE TO SAVE MONEY AND MORE THAN A THIRD OF THE HOUSEHOLDS THINK THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THAT EVERY OTHER GARBAGE SERVICE TO GET THAT SMALLER GARBAGE SERVICE LEVEL. NEXT SLIDE WE ALSO CONDUCTED WE DID A LOT OF MODELING WORK AND WE CONDUCTED MORE THAN 70 SCENARIOS IN IN MODELING VARIOUS FEATURES I TALKED ABOUT INCLUDING YOU KNOW, THE INCENTIVES THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES BEING BETWEEN 60 AND ANOTHER MODEL OTHER MODELS MEASURED ESTIMATED AT 75% FOR TWICE AS MUCH. SO THAT SWEET SPOT 50 TO 80% WE MEASURED A 60% RATE INCENTIVE AND A 75% RATE INCENTIVE FOR DOUBLE THE SERVICE. WE ALSO CONSIDERED A SMALLER TRASH PROVIDED BY HAVING EVERY OTHER WEEK SERVICE OF THAT SMALLEST TRASH CONTAINER WE CONSIDERED WE MODELED FOR HOW THESE RATES ARE PAID. IS IT ALL IN SO THAT EVERYTHING IS THROUGH THE RATE OF CARE OR DO WE HAVE A TWO PART RATE LIKE YOU HAVE CURRENTLY WHERE THERE'S A BASE FEE AND THEN A SEPARATE PART FOR THE THE CANS? AND FINALLY WE ALSO CONSIDERED UNIVERSAL DELIVERY OF ORGANICS YARD WASTE MUCH AS YOU ALREADY DO FOR RECYCLING RIGHT NOW. SO THOSE WERE THOSE CONSTITUTED THAT THOSE AND SOME OTHER OPTIONS CONSTITUTED SEVEN SCENARIOS AND WE'VE KIND OF WE WORKED WITH STAFF AND NARROWED DOWN THE THE SCENARIOS FOR CONSIDERATION THOSE AROUND HAVING A SMALLER TRASH CART OR CART SIZE CART SERVICE LEVEL SO BY PROVIDING AN EVERY OTHER WEEK SERVICE FOR THAT SMALL CART AND THEN THE TWO OPTIONS FOR RATE INCENTIVES BOTH MODERATE AGGRESSIVE YOU'LL WILL SEE THE RESULTS OF THOSE MODELS COMING UP NEXT SLIDE BUT TO UNDERSTAND RESULTS IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE CURRENT AND THE PROPOSED SYSTEMS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE WE SEE WHAT THE CURRENT SYSTEM LOOKS LIKE. YOU HAVE A 30, 60, 90 GALLON CART SOME CHOICE IN THAT RANGE WHERE THE SECOND ONE IS TWICE AS BIG AS THE FIRST LEVEL AND THE THIRD ONE IS THREE TIMES AS BIG AS THE CART LEVEL. WELL IT TURNS OUT UNDER YOUR CURRENT SYSTEM ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE PEOPLE ARE ON THE SMALLEST CART ABOUT, ALMOST HALF OF THE PEOPLE ARE IN THE MIDSIZE AND ABOUT A THIRD OF THE PEOPLE ARE ON THE LARGEST CART. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE AND ARE PUTTING UP OR HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO PUT OUT A LOT OF TRASH AND THEY'RE ONLY PAYING $4 MORE FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, EXTRA LARGE CART THAN THEY ARE FOR THAT FOR THAT MEDIUM SIZED CART. THAT'S THE WAY OUR CURRENT SYSTEM SO A PRETTY MODEST RATE INCENTIVE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS THE NEW SYSTEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BASED ON THESE KIND OF MODELS AND FOR THE WHAT WE FIND THERE IS THAT INSTEAD OF 22%, 45% AND 32% ON THOSE DIFFERENT CART LEVELS INSTEAD THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO SMALLEST CARTS THAT EVERY OTHER WEEK ONE AND THE SMALLEST CART IS MORE LIKE 70% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS AND THEN WE ONLY HAVE 20% AND 10% LEFT ON THOSE HIGHER SERVICE LEVELS WHERE WE'RE CHARGING QUITE A BIT MORE 60 TO 75% MORE FOR THE 65 AND IN A LARGE INCREASE ALSO FOR THE 95 GALLON CART. NOW THAT MIGHT SOUND LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO LEAD TO SOME PRETTY BIG RATE SHOCK WITH THESE BIG CHANGES. BUT IN FACT RATES ARE NOT EQUAL. THE BILLS BILLS ARE THE COMBINATION OF THE RATE YOUR CHARGING THE CARTS FOR EACH CART AND THEIR CHOICE OF WHAT CART THEY THINK THEY NEED. AND WHAT WE SEE IS THAT WHAT MODELING WHAT WE SEE IN EVERY COMMUNITY WE WORK WITH IS THAT WHEN YOU CHANGE THE WHEN YOU PROVIDE REVISED INCENTIVES AND CONVENIENT RECYCLING, PEOPLE MOVE FROM LARGER CARTS TO SWALLOW CARTS. NOW YOU HAVE THE DOUBLE WHAMMY OF THEY CAN MOVE IT EVEN WITHOUT CHANGES IN BEHAVIOR. THE CARTS ARE ONLY HALF FULL CURRENTLY SO PEOPLE WILL DEFINITELY WITH A RATE INCENTIVE BE MOVING FROM THE LARGEST CART TO THE MIDDLE MIDDLE AND SMALL FROM THE MIDDLE TO THE SMALL AND SO ON AND SO FORTH SO THAT THAT LEADS TO TO INSTEAD OF THE RATE SHOCK YOU MIGHT GET BY LOOKING STRICTLY AT RATES THE COMBINATION OF RATES AND ARE THE CHANGE IN BILLS AND WE'LL SHOW YOU COMING THAT THE BILL INCREASES ARE NOT NEARLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF RATE INCREASES NEXT SLIDE SO FOR THE ASPECT OF THIS WORK WE GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICS AND I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR FORBEARANCE AS I EXPLAIN WHAT THE DIFFERENT COLUMNS ARE ABOUT. SO THE DIFFERENT COLUMNS FIRST GIVE YOU THE STATUS QUO THAT GREEN HEADED COLUMN IS IS THE STATUS QUO SYSTEM THAT HAVE NOW AND WE'RE COMPARING ALL THE RATES THAT THAT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS NEW MODELING WORK TO THE STATUS QUO. WHAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING NOW THE NEXT TWO BARS THAT ARE BLUE THOSE ARE TALKING ABOUT A MODERATE AND AGGRESSIVE RATE OF THE 60 AND 75% RATE INCENTIVE UNDER A SYSTEM WHERE WE WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE THE SMALLEST PART THAT OPTION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THE LAST ONE THE ORANGE ONES ARE THE MODERATE AND AGGRESSIVE INCENTIVE WITH THE OPTION FOR ANOTHER FOUR SMALL GARBAGE SERVICE LEVEL. OKAY. NOW LET'S FIRST LOOK AT THE BOTTOM COLUMN THAT YELLOW COLUMN THAT YELLOW COLUMN TELLS US HOW MUCH EXTRA DIVERSION WE'RE GOING TO GET AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE 39% DIVERSION. BUT IN FACT ALL OF THESE OPTIONS PROVIDE BETWEEN ABOUT TEN AND 15% MORE DIVERSION A BIG INCREASE PERCENTAGE POINTS MORE DIVERSION. SO THAT'S A SO EVERY OPTION IN THIS LIST SHOWS SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN DIVERSION. NEXT SLIDE. THE NEXT THING THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE AVERAGE BILLS IN ANYTHING IN BLUE IS SOMETHING THAT'S A SAVINGS AND THAT WHAT WE FIND HERE IS THAT THE THAT THE AVERAGE BILLS ACTUALLY GO DOWN IN OF THESE SCENARIOS AND WHY IS THAT THE AVERAGE CUSTOMER'S BILL IS UNDER THIS NEW PROGRAM AS WE CALL IT STRICTLY BECAUSE OF THE STRUCTURE OF THE TRASH COLLECTION CONTRACTS THAT YOU HAVE NOW YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THOSE THAT MANY PEOPLE WERE MOVING FROM LARGE CANS TO SMALL CANS. WELL THE GARBAGE CONTRACT THAT YOU HAVE NOW CHARGES THE CITY LESS FOR SMALL CAN PURCHASE SMALL CANS AND FROM LARGE CANS . SO AS THOSE PEOPLE MIGRATE DOWNWARD YOUR COSTS GO DOWN AND THOSE COSTS THAT YOU CAN REFLECT THE HOUSEHOLDS GO DOWN AS WELL. OKAY. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PAYING YOU KNOW ,IN THE DOUBLE DIGITS LESS. NEXT SLIDE THIS ROW LET'S JUST LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE'S INDIVIDUAL BILLS BECAUSE WE DON'T ONLY CARE WHAT THE AVERAGE CUSTOMER'S DOING BUT THE HOUSEHOLD CARES WHAT THE HOUSEHOLD IS FACING AND THE AND THIS IS WHAT'S TO THE HOUSEHOLD BILLS COMPARED TO WHAT THEY'RE PAYING NOW. SO THIS BILL REFLECTS WHAT HAPPENS TO THE HOUSEHOLDS THAT CHOOSE TO CHANGE THEIR CARD SIZE, MOVE DOWN IN CARD SIZES PARTLY FROM THE FACT THAT THE CARDS ARE FULL OF TRASH CARD JOINT FULL AND PARTLY FROM THE FACT THAT THEY'RE DOING RECYCLING AND WASTE DIVERSION. AND WHAT WE SEE HERE IS A CHANGE IN A REDUCTION IN IN PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SWITCH DOWN. WE CAN SEE DOUBLE DIGIT CHANGES, REDUCTIONS IN THEIR TRASH BILLS IF THEY'RE WILLING TO MOVE DOWN IN PART SIZE. SO RATE SHOCK IS NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH RATE INCREASES ON INDIVIDUAL PLAN SIZES. NEXT SLIDE FINALLY REMEMBER I SAID YOU KNOW BILLS A COMBINATION OF CHOICE OF BEHAVIOR AND THE RATES WELL THIS IS THE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO CHANGE THEIR THE CARD AND DON'T DO MORE RECYCLING AND THAT SORT OF THING OR MAY ALREADY BE FILLING IT UP AND HAVE LESS HAVE LESS ROOM TO ROOM TO FLEX THE HERE WE'RE SEEING THAT THAT THEY ARE THERE AREN'T VERY MANY AS MANY BLUE COLORS BECAUSE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE MANY OF THE PEOPLE ARE PAYING A HIGHER RATE AND THE HIGHER RATE THAT THE PLACES THAT PEOPLE ARE MOST AFFECTED IS YOU HAVE LESS OF A SAVINGS IF YOU GO WITH THE AGGRESSIVE RATE AND INCENTIVE UNDER EITHER OF THE OPTIONS THE BLUE OR THE ORANGE AND ALSO WITH AND EVERY OTHER WEEK SMALL GARBAGE SERVICE YOU'RE ALSO PAYING YOU TEND TO PAY MORE THERE'S THERE'S A HIGHER RATE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BUT SO SAVERS BECAUSE IT'S SORT OF A MORE RATCHETED RATE AND IT'S ALSO YOU'RE PROVIDING SAVINGS FOR THAT SMALL CARD WHICH GETS SORT OF FILTERED UP AND HIGHER AND OTHER RATES HAVE TO PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE SYSTEMS WOULD WORK. SO THERE IS THERE ARE HIGHER RATES BUT NOT NECESSARILY RATE SHOCK FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF CUSTOMERS. NEXT AS PART OF THE WORK WE DON'T DIDN'T ONLY LOOK AT THE DIVERSION RATES LOOK YOU SAW BEFORE OR THE RATE SHOCK POTENTIAL THAT YOU SAW JUST BEFORE BUT ALSO WE'RE LOOKING AT SORT OF REVENUE RECOVERY AND OTHER RISK FACTORS AND SO SO THREE OF THE RISK FACTORS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WERE AGGRESSIVE RATE INCENTIVES VERSUS MODERATE RATE INCENTIVES WITH MODERATE RATE INCENTIVES. YOU YOU DO HAVE A LOWER REVENUE RISK AS THAT LABEL ON THAT SECOND COLUMN SHOWS. BUT YOU ALSO REDUCE THE WASTE DIVERSION THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THE SECOND OPTION IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU PROVIDE EVERY OTHER WEEK SERVICE OPTION THAT LOWER SERVICE OPTION AND YOU HAVE A LOWER REVENUE RISK IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT IF YOU DON'T PROVIDE THAT MORE SUBSIDIZE THAT LOWER COST RATE OPTION BUT YOU HAVE LESS GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, YOU HAVE LESS REDUCTION IN TRASH AND YOU ALSO REDUCE THE CUSTOMER OPTIONS. THIRDLY YOU CAN DO KIND OF AN OPT OUT OF SERVICE WHERE YOU A GROUP YOU AGGRESSIVELY SAY HEY, EVERYBODY'S PRETTY MUCH GOING TO NEED NEW CANS. YOU'RE EXPECT YOU TO ALL GO DOWN IN SIZE SO KIND OF LET US KNOW IF YOU DON'T NEED TO CHANGE PRETTY MUCH SO THAT'S KIND OF AN OPT OUT AND PRETTY HEAVY HANDED KNOWLEDGE AND AND OUTREACH ABOUT THAT CHANGE CHANGING CANS THE MIDDLE ONE IS INSTEAD SAYING IT'S KIND OF OPT IN HEY WE THINK YOU MIGHT WANT TO RELOOK AT YOUR SERVICE AND LET US KNOW IF YOU NEED A CARD SIZE. THAT SECOND OPTION DEFINITELY LOWERS THE REVENUE RISK BUT YOU END UP WITH A MUCH SLOWER UPTAKE OF OF NEW CARDS WHICH IS SORT OF IN SOME WAYS A SMOOTHER OPERATION PERHAPS INTO IMPLEMENTATION. BUT IT ALSO MEANS THAT YOU SWITCH TO HIGHER DIVERSION RATES WILL BE MUCH SLOWER AND SO ON WE LOOK TO OTHER RISK ELEMENTS AS WELL CONTRACT CONDITIONS COSTS CARDS THAT SORT OF THING. BUT THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE LOOKED AT A LOT WAS CONTAINER SHIFTS AND HOW RELIABLE THOSE SHIFTS WERE TO LOWER WERE TWO DIFFERENT SIZED CARDS THAT WAS KEY. WE USED DATA FROM THREE DIFFERENT SOURCES TO TRY TO COME TO A CONSERVATIVE A LOW RISK ESTIMATE OF THOSE OF THOSE LEVELS. NEXT SLIDE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ARE COMMONLY ASKED ABOUT THESE KINDS OF NEW SYSTEMS AND WE'VE CONSIDERED A VARIETY OF ISSUES HERE. WHAT ABOUT WEEKLY RECYCLING. WELL, WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT A MOMENT AGO. IT'S MUCH IT ONLY GETS YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE RECYCLING AT MUCH HIGHER COST WOULD INCREASE ILLEGAL DUMPING. WELL THERE'S VERY LITTLE DATA ON THE ACTUAL ILLEGAL DUMPING BUT THERE'S A FAIR BIT OF DATA . WE'VE DONE SURVEYS OF HUNDREDS OF COMMUNITIES THAT TO PAY AS YOU THROW AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT MAYBE 20% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS SAID THAT MAYBE FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS THEY HAD A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE A SURGE IN IN PAY IN ILLEGAL DUMPING. BUT THAT WAS LARGELY FROM COMMUNITIES THAT WENT FROM NO PAYS YOU THROW TO PAYS YOU THROUGH YOU ARE MERELY CHANGING THE RATES SO SUSPECT THAT YOUR RISK WILL BE LOWER CONSIDERABLY LOWER THAN THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVEN'T ALREADY MADE THAT CHANGE. WILL THIS INCREASE CONTAMINATION RECYCLING STREAMS? WELL THERE ARE SORT OF THIS ARE IS A MUCH BIGGER ISSUE THAN SOMETHING THAT'S ONLY DUE PAY AS YOU THROW. I MEAN AS YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE ISSUE OF CONTAMINATION HAS BEEN OF A BIG NATIONWIDE ISSUE. BUT I BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN STATISTICS STATISTICAL INFORMATION THAT SHOWS US THAT THERE IS A RELATIONSHIP. BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULDN'T BE MONITORING WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE RECYCLING CENTER AND YOU CERTAINLY SHOULD DO YOU KNOW THERE WERE OOPS TAGS PROGRAMS AS WELL OUT ON THE STREET TO REMIND TO KEEP IT CLEAN. WHAT ABOUT THE IMPACT ON LARGE FAMILIES? THAT'S ALWAYS THAT'S VERY MUCH A CONCERN BY PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE FACT THAT LARGE FAMILIES PAY MORE FOR MORE WATER OR MORE SHOWERS AND MORE YOU KNOW, ALL THE REST THAT THE WATER USAGE THAT COMES FROM A LARGER FAMILY AND FOR PEOPLE PAY AS YOU THROW THEY HAVE A STRONG ABILITY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TRASH THEY'RE PUTTING OUT THROUGH MORE RECYCLING THROUGH COMPOSTING, THROUGH JOINING THE YARD WASTE AND OTHER PROGRAMS AND SO ON AND MAYBE TURN ISSUE AROUND. IS IT FAIR THAT YOU KNOW FOR SMALL LET'S SAY YOU KNOW, RETIRED SINGLE PEOPLE ON A FIXED INCOME OR SOMETHING TO BE PAYING YOU KNOW TO BE PAYING MORE AND YOU KNOW SHOULDN'T SHOULDN'T THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE THESE THINGS ARE VERY RELATED SO BUT WE CAN IF IF THE ISSUE IS MORE ABOUT LOW INCOME WE CAN DISCUSS LOW INCOME ISSUES OPTIONS IN THE WAY THAT CITIES ADDRESS THAT AS WELL THAT IF THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION OTHER ISSUES KNOW EXTRAS AND ORDER ORDERS EXTRAS WE'RE PROPOSING BE DEALT WITH ABOUT THE SAME WAY THEY ARE NOW WHERE IT'S ALREADY THERE'S ALREADY WAY TO HANDLE PARTIES YOU KNOW HOLIDAYS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH THROUGH AN EXTRA FEE OR OVERFLOWS AND SO ON. OWNERS PEOPLE WERE WORRYING ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL FOR AN EVERY OTHER WEEK SERVICE BUT WE'RE NOT IT'S AN OPTIONAL SERVICE AND PEOPLE NO ONE'S FORCED TO USE AN EVERY OTHER WEEK SERVICE IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S OLDER WHOLE IN THE TRASH THAT YOU MIGHT NOT CHOOSE THAT EVERY OTHER WEEK SERVICE OPTION WHAT ABOUT SHARING CARDS THAT DOES NOT WORK WELL WITH A PAY AS YOU THROW SYSTEM THE CONCEPT IS YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR WASTE AND IF YOU PUT OUT MORE TRASH YOU PAY MORE. IN FACT IN MOST COMMUNITIES YOU WORK THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TO DO IS SORT OF LOOK AT HOW A REDUCING OPTIONS FOR SHARING CARDS AND MAKING HOUSEHOLDS RESPONSIBLE FOR HOUSEHOLDS WASTE. BUT WE CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT THAT IF THERE'S AN ISSUE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT NEXT SLIDE. WE'VE ALSO WORKED CLOSELY WITH STAFF IN THE KNOW SOLID WASTE AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT CLOSELY ON ON WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO MAKE THE SYSTEM WORK BUT WE HAVE ALSO WORKED WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS RECOGNIZED HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ALL PREPARED FOR THE NEXT STEPS AND WE ALL ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHO WHO NEEDS TO DO WHAT AND SO WHEN IT'S IMPLEMENTED THERE. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN WHICH ARE ALL LISTED ON THIS IN THE MANY OF THEM ARE LISTED ON THE SLIDE AND THAT'S ACROSS MANY DEPARTMENTS. SO LAURA, BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU, LISA FOR THAT INFORMATION. SO I THINK AT THIS POINT WE WANTED TO OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND HOPEFULLY GET A LITTLE FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL REGARDING THE RESULTS OF THIS STUDY. SOME OF THE SCENARIOS THAT WE'VE PRESENTED TO START WITH I DID WANT TO NOTE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY AS WELL. THEY RECEIVED THIS PRESENTATION IN MAY. WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION REGARDING, THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION AS NOTED ON THE SCREEN HERE WAS FOR THE CITY TO PURSUE MORE OF THE THE AGGRESSIVE GARBAGE RATE INCENTIVE SO THAT THERE'S THE MODERATE OR THE PROGRESSIVE OF THE TWO PAIRED WITH THAT EVERY WEEK SMALL GARBAGE LEVEL THEY ALSO NOTED THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN INCREASE IN FUNDING FOR TARGETED EDUCATION AND OUTREACH. SO TO THOSE LARGER FAMILIES THAT MIGHT BE MORE IMPACTED THAT IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A RATE STRUCTURE CHANGE THAT WE REALLY DO SOME TARGETED EDUCATION. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL WAS AWARE OF THE CONVERSATIONS HAD WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION BEFORE WE MOVE IN TO DISCUSSION. SO REALLY THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS FIRST OFF JUST INTEREST IN GENERAL IN ANY RATE STRUCTURE CHANGES AND IF THERE IS INTEREST KIND OF HOW AGGRESSIVE IS AS LISA THERE'S THE MODERATE SIDE OR THERE'S THAT MORE AGGRESSIVE THAT 75% RATE INCENTIVE AND THEN ANY IN THAT EVERY OTHER WEEK SMALL GARBAGE SERVICE LEVEL AND THE LAST PIECE HERE IS JUST REGARDING THE TIMELINE IF COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN PURSUING RATE STRUCTURE CHANGES AND WHAT THAT TIMELINE WOULD BE FOR IMPLEMENTING THIS AS STAFF HAS DISCUSSED THIS WITH OTHER DIVISIONS LIKE FINANCE AND UTILITY BILLING WE HAVE COME TO A RECOMMENDATION THAT 2026 MAY BE A GOOD TIME TO DO THIS. I UNDERSTAND IN DOING THAT WE WILL BE STARTING KIND OF CONTRACT CONVERSATIONS VERY SOON HERE. OUR CURRENT RESIDENTIAL CONTRACT DOES EXPIRE IN JUNE OF 2026 SO IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD IN 2025 THERE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, DISRUPTION FOR RESIDENTS WITH THE NEW RATE STRUCTURE AND THEN POTENTIALLY DISRUPTION IN 2026 WITH DIFFERENT RATES OR, POTENTIALLY A DIFFERENT COLOR. YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL BE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER REGARDING THAT TIMELINE. ALSO TO NOTE WE DO INTEND ON STARTING THOSE CONTRACT CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCIL LATER THIS SUMMER SO THERE'LL BE PLENTY MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO TALK GARBAGE AND THE DIRECTION OF OUR CONTRACT BUT SO WITH THAT IN MIND AGAIN WE WOULD LOVE TO OPEN IT UP DISCUSSION AND ANY QUESTIONS AND REALLY JUST HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK I KNOW IT'S LATE IN THE EVENING BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE SO WELL AND I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND THE INFORMATION AND WHAT I'D REALLY APPRECIATE IS THAT I WHAT YOU BROUGHT BACK TO THE COUNCIL WAS EXACTLY WHAT THE COUNCIL WAS ASKING YOU TO BRING BACK TO THE COUNCIL. THIS IS EXACTLY IT. I MEAN THE THE NOTION OF THIS TYPE OF RATE STRUCTURE, THE INCENTIVES, THE WAYS TO LOOK FOR REDUCTION WASTE REDUCTIONS BUT ALSO COST SAVINGS. I THINK I THINK YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT ON TRACK HERE. ABSOLUTELY ON TRACK. AND I MEAN FROM MY PERSPECTIVE YOU PURSUE THE RATE STRUCTURE CHANGES. YES. THAT'S I THINK A NO BRAINER. I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE ASKING AND I THINK I'M GOING TO TAKE A GUESS AND SAY THIS GROUP IS GOING TO SAY AGGRESSIVE BUT. THAT'S JUST A GUESS. AND I THINK WE'RE THINK WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION HERE. SOME OTHER THOUGHTS COUNCIL ALESSANDRA I DO SUPER EXCITED I ALSO I'M MAKING SHAMELESS PLUG FOR THE EVERY OTHER WEEK GARBAGE AND BECAUSE I I HEARD IT ALL THE TIME WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO ARE SINGLE HOMEOWNERS MAYBE THEY'RE WIDOWS OR WIDOWERS THEY YOU KNOW DON'T USE THE GARBAGE NEARLY AS MUCH AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT IF WE CAN OFFER THEM A WAY TO TO BENEFIT FROM THIS AS WELL, I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST REALLY GREAT. YOU KNOW IF IF WE HAVE TO MODEL LIKE OH EVERY WEEK MAKES THINGS SO WE SHOULD DO AGGRESSIVE BECAUSE EVERY OTHER WEEK KIND OF LIKE YOU KNOW MODIFIES THAT AGGRESSIVE LIKE BENEFIT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THINGS WORK TOGETHER WHATEVER WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT MAYBE MAYBE MODERATE IS ALSO RIGHT I I'M LESS I'M LESS CONCERNED EXPLICITLY BETWEEN IF IT SUCCEEDS VERSUS 75 IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE TOO MUCH MOVEMENT THERE I MOSTLY REALLY LOVE THE FACT THAT WE ARE INCENTIVIZING THE KINDS OF BEHAVIORS THAT NUMBER ONE ARE PROVEN AND NUMBER TWO ARE NECESSARY US RIGHT NOW RIGHT. SO WE HAVE WE'VE GOT A BIT OF BULLET ON OUR BACKS HERE IN TERMS OF BULL'S EYE ON OUR BACKS. THERE WE GO. YEAH SORRY. AFTER 1045 I BECOME A PUMPKIN I GUESS I DON'T KNOW MUCH MORE ARTICULATE AT 5 A.M. WEIRDLY THE THE YOU KNOW, THE INCENTIVES ARE ARE MOVING PEOPLE TOWARDS PROGRAMS THAT WE WANT THEM TO WORK ON. WE KNOW WE'VE HAD ON THE ON THE COMPOSTING PROGRAM. RIGHT. WE HEAR A LOT OF PUSHBACK ON THAT. MAYBE THIS IS THE WAY THAT WE CAN MITIGATE THAT FOR SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE JUST LIKE I DON'T USE IT. I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT. WELL, YOU'RE MORE THAN YOU SHOULD FOR OTHER THINGS ANYWAY. SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD USE THIS AND A REAL NICE LIKE YOU KNOW BIT OF INCENTIVE TO TO LOWER YOUR GARBAGE RATES AND SO I DO REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I'M SUPER EXCITED ON MY OWN BILL TO SAVE 18% SO I'M INTO IT I THINK IT'S GREAT I THINK YOU GUYS DID EXACTLY WHAT WE ASKED YOU TO DO. I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU TO OUR CONSULTANTS AS WELL BECAUSE YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY VERY, VERY TALENTED AND AN EXPERT IN YOUR FIELD AND YOU'VE BROUGHT THAT EXPERTIZE TO TO HELP US OUT WITH THIS SO JUST THANKS ALL AROUND COUNCILMEMBER THANKS I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF THE PIECE THAT I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED AS THE CONVERSATION WITH HAULERS SO I FULLY APPRECIATE THE THE INFORMATION BUT TO ME THIS ADDS A LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY AND IT MIGHT NOT BE REAL COMPLEXITY BUT IN THE EYES OF A OWNER IT'S COMPLEXITY THAT I CAN USE TO JUSTIFY RATES AND SO WE COULD GET THESE INITIAL REDUCTIONS AND THEN AS THE HAULERS CONTINUE THROUGH THEY COULD SAY OKAY BECAUSE OF THIS OR BECAUSE OF THAT IN THIS PROGRAM WE HAVE TO ADJUST RATES IN THE FUTURE WHICH NEGATES SOME OF THAT. SO THAT'S THE PIECE I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IS WHERE THE HAULERS OUT ON THIS WHO ARE THEY ALSO WORKING WITH? WHO HAS PAID WHO HAVE PAID AS YOU THROW PROGRAMS SO THAT WE CAN SEE THAT OVER A LONG TERM VERSUS JUST THE INITIAL MODEL ? COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU MAYOR. I CAN ALSO FEEL MYSELF FADING VERY SO I'M GOING TO KEEP MY COMMENTS SHORT AND SWEET. I ALSO DON'T REALLY A VERY STRONG PREFERENCE ON THE MODERATE VERSUS AGGRESSIVE BUT I'M VERY OF THE EVERY OTHER WEEK AND THEN I HAD A QUESTION AROUND THE ORGANIC BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT POTENTIALLY JUST GIVING EVERYBODY IN ORGANICS LIKE WE DO RECYCLING AND WAS THAT CONSIDERED IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS. SHORT MAYOR GO AHEAD. WELL, WE LOOKED AT OVER 70 DIFFERENT MODELS AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID CONSIDER. EVEN THOUGH THE COUNCIL HAD MADE A DECISION WHEN WE ROLLED OUT ORGANICS THAT WE WERE GOING TO KIND OF DO THAT UNIVERSAL FEE BUT PEOPLE REALLY NEEDED TO REQUEST THE CART AS WE WERE KIND OF TRYING TO NARROW DOWN SOME OF OUR OPTIONS BECAUSE WE COULDN'T COME HERE TODAY 70 DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO SHOW YOU BECAUSE THINK IT'S VERY COMPLICATED QUICKLY I THINK WE DECIDED TO TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE AND KIND OF KEEP THAT CURRENT MODEL FOR THE THE RECYCLING AND THE ORGANICS HAVE KIND OF THAT ALL PAY MODEL BUT WITH THE RECOGNITION THAT AS PEOPLE BEGIN TO SEE MORE IN DOING THOSE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES THAT THEY ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE INCLINED TO DO A LITTLE MORE UPTAKE. WE KNOW ALREADY THAT OUR ORGANICS PROGRAM IS STARTING TO SEE ANOTHER LITTLE UPTICK AND THAT'S DUE TO SOME OF THE EDUCATION AND ACTIVITIES THAT WE'VE HAD THIS SUMMER AND WE HAD A VERY POPULAR GIVEAWAY AND SO LAURA'S TELLING ME THAT WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL HUNDRED SIGN UPS JUST IN THIS MONTH WHICH IS GREAT AND AS THAT CONTINUES TO BUILD THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO REALLY INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO DO IT. I THINK GIVEN FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HAD FROM FOLKS FROM THE PROGRAM TAKING CARTS OUT TO EVERYBODY IS PROBABLY A VERY LARGE EXPENSE FOR THE CITY AND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THOSE THINGS ALSO LEADS TO MORE CONTAMINATION AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO WE KIND OF THINK THAT THE MODEL THAT WE HAVE IS PROBABLY THE RIGHT MODEL BUT WE NEED MORE INCENTIVES TO GET PEOPLE ADOPTING IT. GREAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY QUICKLY, I JUST WANT ECHO THAT I SUPPORT THAT EVERY OTHER WEEK AND I THINK THAT THAT IS MADE MORE POSSIBLE AND PRACTICAL BECAUSE OF THE ORGANICS. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS HAD ALWAYS BEEN, YOU KNOW, LEAVING IT TWO WEEKS IN THE SUMMER AND THE ORGANICS ARE STILL PICKED UP WEEKLY. I THINK IT JUST MAKES IT WORK BETTER FOR FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING TO MAKE THAT MOVE. SO I THINK FRANKLY I THINK THE EVERY OTHER WEEK MAKES ABSOLUTE SENSE BE AS AGGRESSIVE AS YOU WANT ON THE REST OF IT. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, JUST A QUICK QUESTION RIGHT NOW. THE ENTIRE PAYS FOR THE ORGANICS RATE BUT HOW DO YOU GET A CONTAINER TO PUT THE ORGANICS? I DON'T HAVE ONE OPPORTUNITY HERE, MAYOR. WE PRACTICE BUT IT IS TOO SMALL. WE COOK IT, YOU KNOW, AND WE USE IT FOR THE PLANT BUT IT'S TOO AND SORT OF THE GARBAGE IS TRYING TO PUT IT UP IN THE GARBAGE AND I HAVE A BIG CONTAINER AND I BARELY FILLED ONE THIRD OF IT EVERY WEEK SO YES WELL WE GOOD WELL KIND OF BACK TO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CARTER WAS SAYING THE MODEL THE CITY CHOSE FOR ROLLING OUT ORGANICS TO PROVIDE CARTS TO THOSE THAT REQUESTED ONE. SO YOU DO SIGN UP. THERE'S A FORM ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE TO SIGN UP EASILY OR YOU CAN CALL UTILITY BILLING. THERE WERE CITIES THAT CHOSE TO DELIVER CARTS TO ALL HOMES. I THINK THAT'S HOW WE ORIGINALLY ROLLED OUT THEIR PROGRAM AND THERE WAS A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM RESIDENTS REGARDING RECEIVING A CART THAT THEY WEREN'T TO USE. THE HAULERS ENDED UP PICKING UP A LOT OF CARTS WEREN'T GETTING USED. SO THE CITY DID CHOOSE TO ROLL OUT THE PROGRAM IN THAT WAY. SO I THINK THE QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBERS YOU'VE GOT A CART ON YOUR WAY AND YEAH JUST I JUST ASK IS THERE PUSHBACK IN THAT AREA IS THAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR A SERVICE THEY'RE NOT USING BUT I YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS IT'S BECAUSE DON'T WANT TO IN A WAY BUT IT IS VERY HELPFUL TO DRAW YOUR ORGANICS INTO A DIFFERENT CONTAINER AS SOON AS IT GETS PICKED UP. WE THINK IT DOES SMELL GOOD AGAIN BUT IT ACTUALLY IF YOU COOK IT IT SMELLS LIKE WET TOBACCO. YOU EVER BEEN TO A PLACE WHERE IT'S NOT BAD? YEAH, IF YOU COOK IT BECAUSE IT IRRITATES IN THE MACHINE IT'S FUNNY BUT YEAH I WOULD APPRECIATE A CONTAINER I MEAN AND I CAN TALK TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS TOO THAT DON'T USE IT THAT BE GREAT AND I THINK WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THIS RATE STUDY IF WE IF DO CHANGE THE STRUCTURE THAT MIGHT HELP GENERATE MORE CONVERSATION AMONG RESIDENTS TO RECONSIDER USING THAT ORGANICS CONTAINER BECAUSE THEY REALLY COULD SAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT MONEY IF THEY DIVERT THOSE FOOD SCRAPS INTO THAT NEW CONTAINER. COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN THANK YOU TO THE STAFF. I HAPPENED TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD AND CERTAINLY YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE MINUTES IN TERMS OF THAT CONVERSATION THAT ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION WAS WE ARE A BIG PART OF OUR CONVERSATION WAS WHETHER OR NOT I COULD DO EVERY OTHER WEEK HAVING DIAPERS AND SO THAT WAS A CONVERSATION WE DID WE DID TAKE A VOTE ON THAT AND SO THAT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE FOLKS LANDED ON THAT. SO THAT WAS NOT UNANIMOUS. BUT THE DECISION THAT YOU DO SEE BEFORE YOU THAT OVERALL IS IS UNANIMOUS FROM A SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION. I YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW THAT EXTRA PIECE OF INFORMATION AND I THINK THE FINAL POINT THAT I WOULD ADD I THINK YOUR RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THE TIMELINE IS PROBABLY CORRECT. IT JUST IN TERMS OF THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS AND BASICALLY HOW LONG THIS WOULD TAKE ROLL ALL OF THIS OUT. SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY CORRECT. GREAT. SO ALL RIGHT, YOU GOT WHAT YOU NEED. I THINK SO. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL WE'RE PUSHING UP AGAINST THE WITCHING HOUR I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT WE ADD 15 MINUTES TO OUR DEADLINES TO ADJOURN NO LATER THAN 1115 THIS EVENING SO WE CAN FINISH OUR OUR BUSINESS TONIGHT SECOND AND A MOTION IN A SECOND TO EXTEND TO NO LATER THAN 1115 ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION IS LUCKY YES MR. BRAKEY EVENING AND WELCOME NEARLY GOOD MORNING NEARLY GOOD MORNING YES. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THANKS FOR STICKING IT OUT. ABSOLUTELY YES. JUST GOING TO WAIT FOR A POWERPOINT HERE QUICK . MR. MANN MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS IF IF I COULD SKIP OVER SOME CONTEXTUALIZING HERE AND GET TO THESE AWARD THOSE ARE BLOOMING ARTS PARTNERSHIP'S GRANT PROGRAM OUR NEWEST PROGRAM THAT'S NOW BEEN AROUND FOR EXACTLY FOUR MONTHS SKIPPED THAT IN JANUARY 24 WE SPLIT THE EXISTING CULTURAL ARTS SUPPORT PROGRAM INTO THESE TWO. THIS PRESENTATION IS REGARDING THE BLOOMING ARTS PARTNERSHIP'S GRANT WHICH IS FOR OUTSIDE APPLICANTS TO THE CITY I SHOULD MENTION THIS OUR REVIEW PANEL HAD REPRESENTATION FROM PARK CITY COUNCIL THE FIRST TIME OFFICE OF RACIAL EQUITY INCLUSION AND BELONGING CREATIVE PLACEMAKING AND TWO BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS THAT WERE ALSO FORMER PANELISTS ON CULTURAL ARTS SUPPORT REQUIRED MATERIALS AND SCORING ARE ALSO A CARRYOVER FROM SEE AS PREVIOUSLY SO WITH THAT SPEED ROUND THESE ARE PRESENTATIONS THESE TWO APPLICANTS HERE CONCERTO DANCE AND ALIVE AND KICKING APPEARING IN RANKED ORDER FOR YOU HERE AND HERE'S THE FULL CONTEXT OF THEIR RANKING CONCERTO DANCE WAS OUR TOP RANKED APPLICANTS THE PANEL A LOT OF REALLY GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING THIS IS A JAZZ DANCE COMPANY THEIR OWNER AND FOUNDER IS A BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT JUST LIVES A COUPLE OF BLOCKS FROM HERE AND THEY THE PANEL NOTED DEDICATION TO EXCELLENT PROGRAMING, VERY CLEAR D-I GOALS THEY OFFER FREE LESSONS, OTHER FREE EVENTS. THEY FOCUS THE HISTORY OF DANCE THAT LEADS TO A LOT OF EDUCATIONAL COMPONENTS BEING IN THEIR PROGRAMING THEY GIVE AN OVERALL IMPRESSION BEING A VERY WELL-RUN ORGANIZATION AND EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY BLOOMINGTON BASED THEY DESIRE TO BE AND SO THEY'VE OFFERED MULTIPLE PERFORMANCES CLASSES OUTREACH OPPORTUNITIES IN BLOOMINGTON INCLUDING IN THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS. THEY HAVE BEEN WITH US IN THE FALL AND THE SPRING AND BEEN DOING MONTHLY CLASSES IN THE LAST YEAR. SO THE PANEL PRETTY EASILY RECOMMENDED A 400% OF THEIR REQUEST OR $10,000 A SECOND IS ALIVE AND KICKING WHICH IS AN ESTABLISHED PERFORMANCE PRESENCE AT BCA. THEY'RE ACTUALLY HERE THIS WEEK LOADING WHEN THEY'RE DOING THEIR REHEARSALS THEY'VE GOT SHOWS THIS WEEKEND THEY'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR A LOT OF YEARS BUT THEY ARE A NEW GRANT APPLICANT IN THIS PROCESS. THE PANEL REVIEW DID FIND SOME FEEDBACK THAT THAT ACTUALLY LED TO A LOWER RECOMMENDED AMOUNT. THEY NOTICED THAT A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THEIR TICKET SALES ARE BLOOMINGTON SENIORS AND WANTED TO SEE MORE OUTREACH DIRECTLY TO BLOOMINGTON SENIORS IN THE FUTURE ALIVE AND KICKING APPLICATION HAD THESE STATEMENT OF BUILDING AWARENESS AND TRUST WITHIN BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITIES OF COLOR THE PANEL WANTED TO SEE ACTION STEPS TO SUPPORT THAT AND THEN THE REQUISITE DATA TO FOLLOW THAT THAT WOULD SUPPORT THOSE ACTION STEPS A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF THE COMPANY BUDGET IS DEDICATED TO EMPLOYEE SALARIES. THEY FOUND THAT A BIT UNUSUAL FOR A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION AND THEY DID ALSO OPERATE IN A BUDGET DEFICIT THAT WAS NOT ADDRESSED IN THE APPLICATION NARRATIVE SO COMPILED ALL TOGETHER IN PANEL REVIEW THEY RECOMMEND THEY RECOMMENDED A 60% FULFILLMENT OF THEIR REQUEST WHICH COMES TO $3,000 NOW THERE IS $27,000 REMAINING IN THIS FUND CITY IS NOT INTERESTED IN KEEPING THIS MONEY WE WANT TO DISTRIBUTE IT IN 2024 SO WE INTEND TO RUN A SECOND GRANT CYCLE THIS YEAR WE CAN GET THIS PUBLISHED THE END OF JUNE 2024. A DEADLINE WOULD BE IN OCTOBER WHICH WOULD PUT US BACK ON TRACK FOR AWARD RECOMMENDATIONS PRESENTED ONCE AGAIN JUST BEFORE THANKSGIVING. THAT'S WHEN YOU'D SEEN IT. SEE US AGAIN UP HERE. THE PANEL ALSO RECOMMENDED NO REPEAT APPLICANTS IN 2024 JUST MEAN CONCERTO AND ALIVE AND KICKING WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS AND OF COURSE BECAUSE THIS IS A BRAND NEW PROGRAM THERE'S JUST A NEED FOR GREATER OUTREACH AND ADVERTISING OF THIS WE NEED TO GET THE WORD OUT USING ALL NETWORKS JUST SO WE HAVE MORE APPLICANTS AND WANT TO BUILD THESE ADDITIONAL ARTS PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE CITY WITH THAT THE QUESTIONS AND I'M LOOKING FOR TWO ACTIONS TONIGHT AND APOLOGIES THAT SHOULD SAY CITY COUNCIL NOT PARK APPROVED THE RECOMMENDED AMOUNTS LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND A SECOND ACTION ITEM TO APPROVE SECOND GRANT CYCLE IN 2024 ON THE PROPOSED TIMELINE THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. ACTUALLY MY FIRST QUESTION WERE THESE TWO OF THE ONLY TWO APPLICANTS? THEY WERE SO THEY WERE THE ONLY TWO THEY WERE THE ONLY TWO. OKAY. OKAY. WERE THERE OTHER INQUIRIES OR . WE HAD SOME INQUIRIES. HOWEVER THEY CAME FROM PROFIT BASED ORGANIZATIONS. OKAY. AND SO THEY WERE INELIGIBLE. OKAY. COUNCIL QUESTIONS THOUGHTS ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. JUST A QUICK THOUGHT. WHEN WE DID THIS LAST TIME I WAS DEEPLY SKEPTICAL. THE CONCERTO HASN'T DONE A LOT IN BLOOMINGTON AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO AND I STAND CORRECTED SO I THANK YOU. AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. TO YOUR POINT THEY RECEIVED A GRANT YEAR AND THEY APPLIED IT DIRECTLY TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND PERFORMING HERE. SO THEY REALLY DID RUN WITH IT ALL AND AND FULFILL THAT PROMISE. COUNCILMEMBER COMES FROM ALUMINUM THINK VERY I THINK THIS IS A WELL DONE PROGRAM. I THINK THEY KNOW THAT IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC BENEFIT I SEE IT THERE. MY MY ISSUE WITH THIS IS THE OVERALL PROGRAM. I THINK YOU KNOW THE MANAGER SHARED THAT WITH AND SO AGAIN NOT I'M NOT ONE OF THE YOU KNOW I WON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE I THINK THE DID A PHENOMENAL JOB. YOU KNOW EVERYBODY YOU KNOW DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO BUT I AM VERY SET ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY OF THE OVERALL PROGRAM IN TERMS OF HOW THIS WORKS AND OPERATES FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT WANT TO HAVE THEIR PROGRAMS, BRING THEM TO BLOOMINGTON AND THEN WANT TO MATURE OVER TIME AND BE SUSTAINABLE. AND THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE IN TERMS OF THE CURRENT ARTS THAT WE HAVE AND THESE NEW ONES THAT WE'RE BRINGING INTO THE COMMUNITY DEFINITELY WANT TO BRING NEW FOLKS IN BUT I ALSO WANT TO ASK THAT QUESTION IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO SUSTAIN THEM FOR THE LONG TERM. SO FOR THOSE REASONS TODAY I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS PROCESS BUT I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU HAVE A HAVE A MORE OF A CONVERSATION AROUND THAT. THANK YOU FOR. THE COMMENT COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN COUNSEL ADDITIONAL COMMENTS QUESTIONS ON THIS. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AS THE COUNCILMEMBER THE CHANCE TO WORK WITH THE TEAM HERE I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M GRATEFUL THE OPPORTUNITY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HE DID A GREAT JOB ACTUALLY MANAGING US CATS AS WE WERE DOING THAT. THE CONVERSATION WAS FRANK I THINK WE HAD GOOD TRUST AMONG THE TEAM EARLY ON THAT WAS ENABLED IN LARGE PART BY YOUR LEADERSHIP SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT WAS REALLY WELL DONE. I RECOMMEND IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO EVER GET A CHANCE AT THIS ONE ESPECIALLY IN THE FALL IF WE CHOOSE TO MOVE IT THROUGH. IT WAS SUPER FUN AND THE PEOPLE INVOLVED ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE WORK SO WAS GREAT. SO THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING CITY COUNCIL ON THIS. I HOPE THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE CONTINUE TO DO. I THINK YOU COUNCIL UNLESS THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO I WOULD LOOK FOR IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO MAKE THE MOTION SINCE I WAS ON THE PANEL SO I WILL I KNOW IT INAPPROPRIATE. OKAY PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL FIRST MOVE TO APPROVE THE 2024 BLOOMING ARTS PARTNERSHIP GRANT AWARD RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUNDING. ALIVE AND KICKING FOR $3,000 CONCERT OF DANCE FOR 10,000 TOTALING $13,000 WITH 27,000 REMAINING. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE THE 2024 BLOOMING ARTS PARTNERSHIP GRANT AWARD RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUNDING. NO THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SANCTIFYING BY SAYING I I OPPOSED NAY MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER LOEHMANN IN OPPOSITION COUNCILMEMBER OH I'M SORRY I DIDN'T HEAR YOU COUNCILMEMBER PASSES FIVE TWO WITH COUNCILMEMBERS RIVAS AND LOWMAN VOTING IN OPPOSITION. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO ALL RIGHT, I MOVE TO APPROVE A SECOND BLOOMINGTON IN ARTS PARTNERSHIP GRANT CYCLE IN 2024 ON THE PROPOSED TIMELINE. JUNE 24 MAP APPLICATION MATERIALS PUBLISHED THE CENTER OF THE ARTS WEBSITE AFTER THE CLOSING OF THE FIRST CYCLE. OCTOBER 4TH, 24 BAP APPLICATIONS DUE OCTOBER SEVEN THROUGH 18. 2024 APPLICATION REVIEWED BY PANELISTS AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT OF OCTOBER 21ST 2024 REVIEW PANEL MEETING FOR DISCUSSION FINAL RANKING AWARD RECOMMENDATIONS NOVEMBER 13, 2024 ALL RECOMMENDATIONS PRESENTED TO PARKS RECREATION COMMITTEE NUMBER 18 2024 AWARD RECOMMENDATIONS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL LATE NOVEMBER EARLY DECEMBER AWARD DISTRIBUTIONS HOW ABOUT THAT? THANK ACTIONS ARE NEXT FOR ME I PASS MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE A SECOND BLOOMING ARTS PARTNERSHIP GRANT CYCLE IN 2024 WITH THE PROPOSED TIMELINE AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES FIVE TWO WITH COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS AND COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU AS I SAID, THANKS FOR STICKING IT OUT WITH US THIS LATE IN THE EVENING. GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. IN THE FALL GRANTS WILL MOVE UP AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A DEAL. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON COUNCIL TO OUR FINAL ISSUE, A FINAL ITEM OF THE EVENING OUR COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE ITEM 5.4. FIRST OFF, JUST TO RECAP CITY COUNCIL LISTENING SESSION WE SET A RECORD I THINK FOR THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS IN OUR LISTENING SESSION THIS WEEK AND A NUMBER OF FOLKS SPEAKING . WE HAD MR. LEO MULKEY, LINDSEY FREY PALMQUIST HERB BRAZILIANS, CATHERINE BABCOCK AND LOWELL WENZEL AND THOSE THOSE FOUR SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE THE EAW THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER FOR THE FOR THE STADIUMS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. MR. LOWELL WENZEL HAD COMMENTS REGARDING THE THE NINE MILE CREEK PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO BE GETTING UNDERWAY AND WE HEARD FROM SALLY NESS HER ONGOING COMPLAINTS REGARDING DARYLE FAROOQ INCLUDING NONCOMPLIANCE AND CODE COMPLIANCE AND OUTRIGHT ISSUES. AND THEN WE HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS WITH A NEIGHBOR DISPUTE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT NEIGHBOR DISPUTE. SO I'M I'M GOING TO HESITATE TO NAME THEM HERE AND JUST BASICALLY SAY WE HAD A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CONVERSATION AND ASKED THE CITY STAFF INCLUDING OUR CITY ATTORNEY, OUR CITY MANAGER, OUR CITY POLICE TO TAKE A DEEP LOOK INTO THIS AND SEE IF WE CAN'T RESOLVE THIS BECAUSE IT WAS A NUMBER OF DISTURBING ALLEGATIONS BETWEEN NEIGHBORS THAT YOU'D HATE TO SEE ANYWHERE BUT CERTAINLY AMONG NEIGHBORS THEY HATE TO SEE THAT GOING ON. SO THAT WAS OUR OUR LISTENING SESSION TODAY. MR. VERBALE MR. MAYOR, YOU SEEMED RELUCTANT TO EVEN SO I'LL SAY NO NOTHING TO HEAR THE SIGNAL COUNCIL ANYTHING ELSE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER DALLAS. I HAVE ONE VERY SMALL THING. I JUST TO THANK THE FOLKS AT AT THE COAST GUARD WHO HAVE OPENED A RECRUITING CENTER HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. I GOT THE CHANCE TO HANG AS THEY DID A RIBBON CUTTING ON SATURDAY AFTERNOON. THE COAST GUARD TWIN CITIES IS THE FIRST TIME IN OVER A DOZEN YEARS THAT THEY'VE HAD PRESENCE IN MINNESOTA. IT'S A FASCINATING TALE THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO OUR TALE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF FOLKS WHO SIGNED UP 20 YEARS AGO AFTER 911 AND THEY'RE FACING RETIREMENTS AND NOW. THEY'RE WORKING TO OVERCOME THOSE AND BE PROACTIVE ABOUT THAT. THE COOL THING IS IS THEY HAD A YOUNG PERSON FROM ONE OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS ACTUALLY THERE WHO HAD THROUGH THE PROGRAM, YOU KNOW THAT THEY ADVANCED ALREADY HERE THEY'RE SAYING THAT HE WAS SHIPPING OUT THE WEEK AFTER HE FINISHED GRADUATION AND EVERYTHING AND SO AND THEY'RE INCREDIBLY PLEASED WITH THE TALENT THAT COMES FROM THE MIDWEST. I GOT TO MEET A GENTLEMAN WHO IS STATIONED IN DULUTH WORKS ALL THE TENDER AND EVERYTHING UP THERE BUT HAPPENS TO BE FROM BEDFORD WHICH IS 20 MINUTES FROM MY HOMETOWN. THE ODDS OF YOU FINDING SOMEBODY 20 MINUTES FROM WHERE YOU LIVE AFTER WE'VE BOTH BEEN AROUND THE WORLD IS PRETTY COOL. SO IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE. JUST LARUE IS THE CHIEF OFFICER IN CHARGE. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU WALK IN . THEY ARE AT MORGAN CIRCLE. IF YOU REMEMBER THE YOGA STUDIO THAT WAS ON THE CORNER OF THAT SPOT, THE R LOBSTER, THEY'VE TAKEN OVER THAT AREA. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. COURSE AND A REALLY COOL SPOT FOR THEM TO BE THERE WITH ALL THE TRANSIT AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. THEY SHOULD GET A GOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE. BUT YOU KNOW, I'M MY HEART GOES OUT TO MILITARY FOLKS ALL THE TIME. SO REALLY, REALLY HONORED TO BE THERE. ALSO GOT TO SEE TWO ADVANCEMENTS WHICH WAS PRETTY COOL THING. I'D NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE SO ANYWAY IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO JOIN THE ARMED FORCES BUT ISN'T QUITE INTERESTED IN DOD REMEMBER THEY STILL SIT IN HOMELAND SECURITY SO IT'S NOT THE SAME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER. ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL. IF NOT COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS EVENING. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADJOURN THIS EVENING. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVORITE PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I YES OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES ZERO. THANKS SO MUCH COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONVERSATION THIS EVENING. THANKS TO STAFF WHO ARE ALL GONE. THANKS TO OUR RESIDENTS WHO CHIMED IN AS WELL AND EVERYBODY TUNED IN . WELL THEN THANK YOU