WBL City Council Meeting 11/14/2023

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Based on the context provided in the transcript, here is the updated version with speaker names and roles. **Note on Identified Speakers:** * **Mayor Dan Bolt:** The presiding officer. * **Cindy Crawford:** City Manager (referred to as "Lindy"). * **Paul Copy:** Public Works Director / City Engineer. * **Tracy Shimek:** Community Development Director. * **Peter Letherman:** Representative from Morris Leatherman Co. (Housing Survey). * **Mark Nolan:** Project Manager from SEH (Parking Study). * **City Clerk:** Role call and election administration. * **Councilmembers:** Bill Edberg, Heidi Hughes, and Steven Engstran. *** **[1:58] Unknown Speaker:** e **[2:52] Unknown Speaker:** There is nothing there. He was like not even a judge, like nothing. **[3:13] Unknown Speaker:** All... **[3:28] Unknown Speaker:** Right, you. **[3:38] Unknown Speaker:** I mean it's been off here. **[3:47] Unknown Speaker:** On. **[3:53] Unknown Speaker:** No, I well here's [Music]. **[4:08] Mayor Dan Bolt:** That one up. What do we need to give her? Oops, oops. Mic off, mic [Laughter] off your and everyone mostly. **[4:24] Mayor Dan Bolt:** All right, we're going to call the meeting to order. Will the clerk please call the roll? **[4:24] City Clerk:** Council member Hughes? **Councilmember Hughes:** Here. **City Clerk:** Council member Edberg? **Councilmember Edberg:** Here. **City Clerk:** Council member Engstran? **Councilmember Engstran:** Here. **City Clerk:** And council member Walsh and council member Jones are excused for the evening. **[4:24] Mayor Dan Bolt:** Very good, thank you. Will you please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. **[5:10] Mayor Dan Bolt:** All right, I trust everyone's had a chance to review the minutes of the regular city council meeting from October 24th. If so, I would entertain a motion to approve those minutes. **Councilmember:** Motion. **Councilmember:** Second. **Mayor Dan Bolt:** Have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. **Council:** Aye. **Mayor Dan Bolt:** Any opposed? Minutes are approved. Adoption of the agenda—are there any corrections or amendments to the agenda tonight? Seeing none, I'll just note for the record that the closed session scheduled for this evening is to hold an attorney-client protected discussion regarding the PFAS class action suit against 3M and Dupont that identify the city as a claimant, and we'll be holding that at the end of the meeting. And with that, I'd entertain a motion to approve the agenda. **Councilmember:** Second. **Mayor Dan Bolt:** Have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. **Council:** Aye. **Mayor Dan Bolt:** Any opposed? Motion carries. Consent agenda—we have agenda item four, consent agenda. I entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda. **Councilmember:** Motion. **Councilmember:** Second. **Mayor Dan Bolt:** All those in favor say aye. **Council:** Aye. **Mayor Dan Bolt:** Any opposed? Motion carries. Consent agenda is adopted. **[5:55] Mayor Dan Bolt:** All right, so item five A, visitors and presentations. We have a housing community survey report, and I believe Miss Shimek is going to take that. So please, whenever you're ready. **[5:55] Tracy Shimek:** Good evening Mayor, members of Council. As you may recall, we commissioned a housing community housing survey with Morris Leatherman, and we have Peter Letherman here to present the results of the survey. And with that, I will turn it over to him. Peter and staff will be available for questions after the presentation. **[6:41] Peter Letherman:** Super. It's a pleasure to be here with you this evening to go over the results... [Presentation continues through detailed statistics on demographics, quality of life, and housing trends]. **[23:01] Mayor Dan Bolt:** Thank you. A lot of good information there. I know we've had the work session. I was frankly shocked and pleasantly surprised that if you look at it as a report card, people are pretty happy in this community. They by and large like living here. Is that a fair statement? **[23:01] Peter Letherman:** 100%. **[24:35] Mayor Dan Bolt:** And can you just maybe expand a little bit? During the work session you talked about how we are very unique when it comes to being a quote-unquote suburb and that we really mirror kind of small-town Minnesota. Share a little bit more on that based on your history of surveys. **[24:35] Peter Letherman:** You know, that open question up front of "what do they like most"—when you ask that in most suburban communities, what comes up first is location... [Explains the uniqueness of White Bear Lake’s downtown and community connection compared to other suburbs]. **[26:52] Mayor Dan Bolt:** No, well, thank you for the report. I'm sure other council members have questions, but I found this a worthwhile exercise and money well spent. Council, any other questions? Council member Edberg? **[27:32] Councilmember Edberg:** Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'm going to let the policy questions incubate... I want to understand any differences that might exist between the views of those who purchased 50 years ago... versus folks in the last 10 years. **[28:25] Peter Letherman:** I absolutely can. I can run a cross-tab for you because you're right... [Discussion continues regarding property tax perceptions and longitudinal data]. **[48:30] Mayor Dan Bolt:** I appreciate that. I appreciate all the work. Before we get—I know our City Manager has something to say. Is there anyone else on the council that has any questions or comments? Lindy, please? **[49:16] Lindy Crawford (City Manager):** Yeah, thank you. Just to reiterate some real-world comments that I've received in the last week... there's a sense of belonging in this community versus the community that I'm in right now. I just wanted to share those two kind of real-world things. **[50:01] Mayor Dan Bolt:** No, I appreciate that. That's good feedback. All right, Council, I would entertain a motion to approve the resolution accepting the housing report. **Councilmember:** Second. **Mayor Dan Bolt:** Motion and a second. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. **Council:** Aye. **Mayor Dan Bolt:** Any opposed? Motion carries. The resolution is approved. Item 5B, downtown mobility and parking study update. Mr. Copy? **[50:01] Paul Copy:** Thank you, Mayor, members of the Council. If everyone recalls, back in February, we entered into a contract with Short Elliott Hendrickson (SEH) to lead us in our downtown mobility and parking study... I’m going to turn it over to Mark Nolan, who is the project manager for SEH. **[51:32] Mark Nolan:** All right, thanks Paul. Good evening Mayor, members of Council. I really appreciate you having me in tonight... [Presentation on parking utilization, crash analysis, and pedestrian improvements]. **[1:12:20] Mayor Dan Bolt:** Well, just first of all, thank you. It's a lot of data. I know it's preliminary... I really like the idea of the possibility for one-ways with angle parking... is there a way or has there been any discussions about how to move people from one side of Highway 61 to the other? **[1:15:24] Mark Nolan:** We haven't had serious discussions about that... pedestrian bridges—a lot of times people cross the street anyway. **[1:16:11] Paul Copy:** Mayor, members of the Council, I'll add just a couple things to that. Going under, groundwater would be a major issue... it would be constant pumping of water to try to keep it dry. **[1:18:32] Mayor Dan Bolt:** This obviously is beyond our authority, but we could talk to MnDOT. Is there anything about mobility and safety that would be improved if, going through downtown White Bear, the speed limit were 30 miles per hour instead of 40? **[1:18:32] Mark Nolan:** Of course that would improve things... people's reaction time would be improved. **[1:20:06] Jason Ziemer (Community Development Director):** Mr. Mayor, members of the City Council... we can also think about the design of the private space next to that road. In situations where the perceived area around where you are driving is closer in, it tends to slow people down. **[1:21:37] Councilmember Edberg:** This is the first I've heard much of the commentary. My first question has to do with seasonality... snow banks, plowing, etc... [Questions regarding neighborhood parking and crash rates at 4th and 61]. **[1:38:52] Lindy Crawford:** Thank you Mayor. Council member Edberg, we are right now looking at County Road E... we are doing that this is time for redevelopment and I wanted to take a holistic approach. **[1:40:22] Councilmember Hughes:** I mean, some of this just has to be done, right? So we're just talking about lights and roads... but I do think it's important that it be attractive... what I don't want to do is change the face of downtown so that all of a sudden it looks like some other kind of cookie-cutter environment. **[1:45:35] Paul Copy:** I'll make one comment on the bike piece... the biggest thing that we heard was there's one broken bike rack by the Third/Banning lot. People were trying to lock bikes to light poles. **[1:47:08] Mayor Dan Bolt:** All right, thank you very much. Item 5C, biannual Public Works engineering department report. Mr. Copy, whenever you're ready. **[1:47:25] Paul Copy:** All right, thank you Mayor, members of the council... [Provides a detailed report on Water, Sewer, Parks, Streets, and Fleet Maintenance divisions]. **[2:10:34] Lindy Crawford:** I want to add a couple of things... the firefighters who actually are staying at Public Works don't want to go back to the south station. They enjoy being at Public Works... Also, we do plan to have a Public Works open house next spring. **[2:12:06] Mayor Dan Bolt:** Very good, thank you Mr. Copy. Item 8A, canvas results of Municipal general election 2023. Ms. Crawford? **[2:14:24] City Clerk/Ms. Crawford:** Thank you Mayor... The attached resolution declares Bill Walsh receiving 134 votes (Ward 1), Andrea West receiving 444 votes (Ward 3), and Stephen Engstran receiving 103 votes (Ward 5). **[2:15:55] Mayor Dan Bolt:** Excellent. I would entertain a resolution canvasing the votes for the 2023 General municipal election. **Councilmember:** So moved. **Councilmember:** Second. **Mayor Dan Bolt:** Motion and second. All those in favor say aye. **Council:** Aye. **[2:16:41] Mayor Dan Bolt:** Item 10, Communications from the city manager. **[2:16:41] Lindy Crawford:** Thank you Mayor. Just a couple of things... ribbon cuttings this Thursday at Nehmer and Hamline residences and the White Bear Country Inn/Rudy’s Redeye Grill anniversaries. We are also working on the 2024 legislative priorities. **[2:17:27] Mayor Dan Bolt:** Very good. For those of you that are from the high school... we’re about to enter into a closed session. Tell Mr. Mum Dan says hi... please stay engaged in the community as you get older. Before we jump into that, do you want someone to sign for [the students] so that you guys can get out of here? **[2:19:28] Mayor Dan Bolt:** All right, I will entertain a motion to go into closed session pursuant to Minnesota statute section 13D.05 subdivision 3B for an attorney-client protected discussion regarding the PFAS class action suit. **[2:19:28] Councilmember Hughes:** I make a motion to go into closed session pursuant to Section 13D.05 subdivision 3B for an attorney-client protected discussion with the city's attorney regarding the PFAS class action suits against 3M and Dupont. **[2:20:14] Mayor Dan Bolt:** Do I have a second? **Councilmember:** Second. **Mayor Dan Bolt:** All those in favor say aye. **Council:** Aye. **Mayor Dan Bolt:** The meeting will now be closed. No recordings are to be made during this discussion.