>>Chair Waters: GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBERS. MEMBERS OF PUBLIC. RECONVENING ON PAGE 16. PAGE 16. FROM COMMITTEE COMMITTEE ON, COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO. >>Councilmember Okimoto: I MOVE COMMITTEE REPORT 126 BE ADOPTED AND BILL 54, 2025, CD2, AS AMENDED PASS THIRD READING. >> SECOND. >>Chair Waters: BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO FOR EEXPLANATION. >>Councilmember Okimoto: RELATING TO PUBLIC TRANSIT INTO THANK YOU. MOTION TO AMEND? >> YES. I MOVE THAT BILL 54, 2025, CD2 BE FURTHER MADE THE TO THE PROPOSED FD-1, IDENTIFIED OCS2026-0043/1/26/2026, 4:09 P.M. >>Chair Waters: SECOND. >>Chair Waters:S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM FOR THE EXPLANATION. OF THE AMENDMENT. >>Councilmember Dos Santos Tam: PROPOSED FD-1 WOULD RETAIN THE CURRENT FARE STRUCTURE THAT IS NOT INCREASE, THE FARES AS PROPOSED IN THE UNDERLYING BILL. IT WOULD RETAIN THE PROVISION THAT ALLOWS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SERVICES TO ESTABLISH A SINGLE SPECIAL RIDE FARE TO AND FROM THE AIRPORT, IT WOULD RETAIN THE CURRENT FARES AS THEY EXIST FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH EXTREMELY LOW INCOMES, AROUND WOULD DELETE THE PROVISION THAT WOULD HAVE INCREASED THE ONE WAY PASSENGER TRIP FARE FOR ANY PERSON ISSUED PARATRANSIT ELIGIBILITY IDENTIFICATION CARD. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. CLERK, I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TAKE TESTIMONY FROM THE PUBLIC ON BOTH ORIGINAL MOTION MADE BY THE BUDGET CHAIR, AS WELL AS THE MOTION TO AMEND. SO MR. CLERK, CAN WE START WITH REGISTERED TESTIFIERS. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, IN PERSON. >>Chair Waters: IN PERSON. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WE DO HAVE SOME REGISTERED IN-PERSON TESTIFIERS. KWOK. VAN DEER BURN, JIMMY CHANG,. >>Chair Waters: ALOHA AND WELCOME. >>Testifier: ALOHA. JIMMY CHAN. HERE TO PROPOSE -- PUB THE BILL 54. -- CLEAR. FARE IS NOT FAIR. RECENT FARE SEPARATE HONOLULU FOOSHT CRISIS REGRESSIVE TAX FOR FOR HE REALLY ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND DEEPEN ECONOMIC INEQUALITY IN OUR SIT. >>Vice Chair Tupola: 25 INCREASE IS DESIGNED TO PUSH PEOPLE TOWARDS HOLO CARD. AND CREATOR DIGITAL BARRIER. BUT NOT EVERYONE HAS A BANK ACCOUNT OR ACCESS TO DIGITAL PAYMENT. CASH RIDER, MOSTLY LIKE SENIORS. IMMIGRANTS, ANDER UNHOUSED RESIDENTS. THIS POLICY EXCLUDES VERY COMMUNITY PUBLIC TRANSIT IS MEANT TO SERVE. FINALLY, THIS IS CLIMATE HYPOCRISY. HIGHER FARES, KILLS RIDERSHIP. MORE CARS MORE TRAFFIC AND MORE EMOTION. YOU CANNOT PROMOTE CLIMATE CODES, WHILE PENALIZING PEOPLE FOR CHOOSESSING PUBLIC TRAFFIC TRANSPORTATION. PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS ESSENTIALLY SERVICE NOT A LUXURY. FARE IS NOT FAIR. PLEASE REJECT BILL 54. MAHALO. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. PLEASE COME FORWARD. WELCOME. >>Testifier: ALOHA. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL. DAILY, SECOND PLACE CHAIR OF THE ALA MOANA KAKAAKO NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD. THERE IS MY PERSONAL TESTIMONY. I SPEAK IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO BILL 54. I FIRST WANT TO INTERVIEW THE COUNCIL THIS WEEK THAT THE ALA MOANA KAKAAKO NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD AS WELL AS MCCULLY MOILIILI NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD BOTH PASSED RESOLUTIONS OPPOSING BILL 54. LET ME START WITH SOME FACTS. TRANSIT FARE INCREASES ONLY GOING TO BRING IN $4 MILLION EXTRA. WHEN COMPARED TO DTS BUDGET, MORE THAN $400 MILLION, IT ONLY ACCOUNTS FOR ONE PERCENT OF PIER BUDGET. $4 MILLION IS NOT LIGHT OF MONEY FOR DTS. ER BUT IS A LOT OF MONEY WHEN OBTAINING IT BY NICKEL AND DIMING RESIDENTS. THIS COUNCIL SEEMS INTENT ON RAISING AVERAGE WORKERS COST OF LIVING. FIRST, WITH SEWER FEE INCREASE. NOW BY TRANSIT FARE INCREASES. MANY WILL QUESTION THE LOGIC OF WHY WE ARE ASKING THOSE IN THE LEAST TO PAY MORE AND MORE. I THINK ANSWER IS SIMPLE. THOSE WHO ISSUED HE LEAST ARE NOT POLITICALLY ENGAGED. DON'T HAVE TIME TO ATTEND NIECE MEETINGS AND MANY UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO NOT VOTE AND DO NOT GIVE HEIFER THINK POLITICAL CONTRIBUTION. HEFTY. I THINK ASK INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL HERE TO REMEMBER THAT MANY OF THE AVERAGE WORKING ADULTS CONDITION E'O CAN'T BE HERE TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THIS BILL. BUT THEY STILL NEED A VOICE. I ASK COUNCILMEMBERS HERE WILLING TO BE THAT VOICE AND OPPOSE THIS RANDOM IT TRA*PB SIT FARE INCREASE. TRANSIT FARE INCREASE MAHALO FOR YOUR TIME. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. I NOTE THAT WE HAVE LUKE A KUNIBERTI. IS THIS PERSON AVAILABLE? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR,EL NOT LOG ON. >>Chair Waters: NOT HRO*G LOGGED ON. PLEASE PROCEED. >>Testifier: ALOHA. CHAIR WATERS. VICE CHAIR COUNCILMEMBERS. LUKE A. TRANSIT ADVOCATE FOR THE NORTH SHORE OAHU. DAILY BUS USER. HAWAII YOUTH TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL'S POLICY AND LEGISLATION CHAIR TRYING TO PUSH FOR OUR BILL IN THE CROSS THE STREET FROM YOU GUYS CALLED KEIKI RIDE FREE. BILLS 54 IS AFFORDABILITY OF HAWAII. TAKE OPPORTUNITIES AWAY FROM YOUTH AND FORESTATION KUPUNA, FAMILIES AND RESIDENTS TO PAY MORE. I ADVOCATE FOR MORE YOUTH TRANSIT TO USE PUBLIC TRANSIT AND MANY OF THEM DO LIKE TAKING IT. BUT I SEE A FUTURE WHERE THIS BILL PASSES, WITHOUT THE AMENDMENT THAT COUNCILMEMBEREL TYLER DOS-SANTOS TAM AND COUNCILMEMBER WEYER VERY HAPPILY PUT THAT FORWARD. IF THIS DOES GET PASSED WITHOUT AMENDMENTS, STOP TAKING AND SEEING BENEFIT PUBLIC TRANSIT. BOTS BECAUSE OF ITS FINANCIAL BERT. WHY WOULD A YOUNG PERSON WANT TO USE TRANSIT IF IT PUNISHES THEM AND FAMILY FINANCIALLY. FARES ARE ALREADY DIFFICULT TO TOOBTAIN REQUIRE INTERNET CONNECTION OR PARENTS TO GO DOWN TO KALIHI DURING WORKING HOURS ON A WORKDAY WITH MULTIPLE FORMS OF IDENTIFICATION. NOT ALL FAMILY THE TIME MONDAY OUR AND THE TO GET A YOUTH CARD FOR THEIR CHILDREN. WHILE CASH BEING USED LESS AND LESS IN OUR SYSTEM, MAJORITY OF YOUTH STILL USE IT BECAUSE OF OBTAINING YOUTH CARD IS SO DIFFICULT FOR A REASON I JUST STAYED. WE HAVE PACKED BUSSES HERE ON NORTH SHORE ACROSS OAHU BECAUSE OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM IS SO AFFORDABLE. IF YOU TAKE THAT AFFORDABILITY AWAY, KEIKI WILL START TAKING CARES WALKING TO SCHOOL, OR NOT EVEN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE COMING TO SCHOOL ATALL. TAKE CARS. ESPECIALLY APPLIES FOR HOUSELESS POPULATIONER ARE. THIS BILL PUNISHES COMMUNITY FOR TAKING TRANSIT. WE KNOW THE FAREBOX RATIO DOESN'T WORK NOW. AND THERE ARE OTHER REVENUE STREAMS YOU GUYING COULD BE USING. IN CONCLUSION PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THIS BILL. OR VOTE FOR THE AMENDMENT. EVEN IF YOU DON'T TAKE THE BUS OR SKYLINE, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME RECOMMISSIONED RATE COMMISSION DON'T USE OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM. THIS IS ABOUT AFFORDABILITY ON SOMETHING, SOMETHING WE ALL UNITED FOR FIGHT F FOREST -- NEED FOR FIGHT FOR. MAHALO. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU SIR. TBHEKS HAVE DONALD SAKAMOTO. NEXT WE HAVE DONALD SAKAMOTO. MR. DONALD SAKAMOTO. YOU'RE ON MUTE. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? >>Chair Waters: YES. WE CAN. PLEASE PROCEED. >>Testifier: VERY DIFFICULT. DONALD SAKAMOTO FOR THE RECORD. STRONG ADVOCATE FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. BUS, HANDY-VAN, SKYLINE. I'M WITH CITIZENS FOR FAIR AMOUNT DA RIDE. RIDE SYSTEM SINCE 20000 TO NOW. ADVOCATE 15 YEARS WITH PUBLIC GRANT. FOR OUR KUPUNA, AND DISABLED PEOPLE. CHAIR WATERS, VICE CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBERS, I'M STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS BILL BECAUSE HARSH FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ELDER AND DISABLED NOT HAVE TO ABSORB THESE OUTRAGEOUS PRICES RIGHT NOW FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION. SEPTEMBER OF 2018, ERNIE MARTIN CHAIR AT THAT TIME, AND FOUR OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS, FIRST READING, KILLED THE BILL TOO INCREASE THE PARATRANSIT BUS AND SKYLINE RATES. THEY SAID THEY COULD BE FOUND ON FUNDS FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE WHAT HE DID. NOW WE'RE AT THE SAME POINT NOW, HERE, WHERE WE HAVE INCREASE FOR PARATRANSIT 25 TO 2.50. PEOPLE SSI CAN'T AFFORD THAT. IF THEY GO WITH THE LOW SUBSIDY PROGRAM. CITY HAS. TO GET 2.25 OR WHATEVER. 2000 I WOULD SAY. FOR THOSE JUST ON THE BARELY UNDER SOURCE OF HAVING LOW INCOME DON'T FUEL U U QUALIFY FOR THAT. IT'S A BURDEN. RATE COMMISSION, I TESTIFIED, WHEN IS THE DEPARTMENT GOING TO GET MORE MONEY FROM THE STATE REGARDING MED-QUEST PROGRAM, OVERBURDENEDS PARATRANSIT HANDY-VAN WHEN THESE PROGRAM PEOPLE USE IT AIR AND STATE DON'T PAY THEIR SHARE OF FUNDING. WAITING FOR THAT FROM DIRECTOR MORTON FOR HOW LONG? AS WELL AS MEETING RIDER NAMED GAIL FLANAGAN EXPRESSED HER CONCERN WHY IS THE CITY WORKERS SOME OF THEM GETTING FREE RIDES ON THE BUS AND SKYLINE? AND DIRECTOR MARTIN SAID, TO ME, PERSONALLY ON THE PHONE PHONE CALL THAT HE HAS AUTHORIZE R AUTHORIZATION TO GIVE THEM THIS CAPABILITY TO HAVE FREE RIDE. THAT SHOULD BE I WOULDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION WHAT IS THE REASON FOR IT? AND HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE RAZE OR LOSE OWN THAT? THAT'S MY CONCERNS. I'M AGAINST IT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT I GO THROUGH. WITH PEOPLE THAT CALL ME AND SERVICE IS NOT THAT GREAT WITH THE TRAPEZE REAL TIME SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW. CAN'T GET THE TIMES THEY WANT. VAN ABILITY IS TERRIBLE. NOT AS GOOD AS QUALIFIED FOR PEOPLE TO USE ON THE ROADS OF OUR WONDERFUL OAHU. THANK YOU. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. NEXT JULIANA SOLAR. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, TESTIFIER IS NOT LOGGED ON. >>Chair Waters: OKAY. SHELBY PIKACHU BILLIONAIRE. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, TESTIFIER IS IS NOT ALSO NOT LOGGED ON. >>Chair Waters: THANK. ANGELA MELODY YOUNG. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, MISS YOUNG IS ALSO NOT LOGGED ON. >>Chair Waters: OKAY. KEIKI HULKEIKI HULA SHELBY PIKAU >>Council Clerk: CHAIR,TESTIFIO LONGER PRESENTS. OKAY AND DAILY VAN DEER BRINK TESTIFIED. ER DALE VAN DEER BINK TESTIFIER AND JUNE ME CHANG TESTIFIED. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN PERSON WITH LIKE TO TESTIFY? PLEASE COME FORWARD.ER JOLIE TOKUSATO. OPPOSE ANY KIND OF CRIEN HE ISES TO THE BUS FAIR. INCREASES OR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IN GENERAL. I WANTED TO JUST SHARE SOMETHING. RESFNTSLY PERSONAL. SCREW IN MY TIRE. HAD TO, THINK OF OPTIONS HOW TO GET AROUND. I THOUGHT ABOUT THE BUS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WAS I HAVE TO GO AND FIND OUT WHERE THE ROUTES GO GO. AND I HAD TO WALK TO A BUS STOP. I HAVE TO MAKE MULTIPLE TRIPS SOMEPLACE. IT WAS SO BURDENSOME. AND I CAN IMAGINE WHAT IT IS LIKE FOR PEOPLE HAVE TO RELY ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION EVERY SINGLE DAY. GOT GROCERY STORE, YOU HAVE TO LOG LUG AIL OF THOSE. NOT EASY. PEOPLE WITH OPTION OPTIONING ARE GOING TO USE OTHER OPTIONS DO UBER. LYFT, DRIVING, THAT'S THAT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT BEST EASIEST WAY POSSIBLE FOR THEM AND RAISING BUS PRICES ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING CLASS LIKELY AM, IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA. I THINK IT'S A REALLY BAD, BAD THING. SO PLEASE DON'T RAISE BUS FARES. APPRECIATE YOU FOLKS CARVERRING OUT ALL OF THESE EXCEPTIONS. BUT EVEN MYSELF DON'T QUALIFY. MAYBE KUPUNA. MIGHT BE THAT AGE. FOR MOST OF MY WORKERS WHO I WORK WITH, DON'T QUALIFY FOR THOSE TOO. SO PLEASE, DON'T TOUCH THE BUS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FARES. THANK YOU. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO FIVE? ON BILL 54? SEEING NONE. ANYBODY ONLINE WHO WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, THAT CONCLUDES THE TESTIFIERS. IT. >>Chair Waters: WE DO HAVE THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SERVICE. ROGER MOMORTON THANK YOU FOR BEG HERE. THIS IS NOT A COUNCIL, WHAT'S THE RIGHT WORD I'M LOOKING FOR IN INITIATED MEASURE. THIS IS ADMINISTRATION INITIATIVED MEASURE. IT WAS A AMENDED BY THE COUNCIL IN COMMITTEE. DIRECTOR MORTON, IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN WHAT THIS BILL DOES AND WHY ADMINISTRATION IS ASKING FOR THIS. >>Testifier: S CERTAINLY. THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF YOU LONG TIME COMING. THIS IS BEEN A TWO-YEAR PROCESS TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE. WE HAD THERE MEASURE DISCUSSED EXTENSIVELY AT THE RATE COMMISSION. FOR OVER A YEAR-AND-A-HALF. THE BILL WAS INTRODUCED INTO COUNCIL IN JULY. OF LAST YEAR. IT WAS REREFERRED TORE COMMITTEE FEW TIMES. GONE BACK AND FORTH. AND AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, WE LET ME GET TO THE REASONS WHY FIRST OF ALL. OUR TRANSIT BUDGET TODAY IS JUST ABOUT P 440 MILLION. OVER THE THIS YEAR, OUR COSTS WILL GO UP ABOUT $11 MILLION. AND NEXT YEAR, THEY'LL GO UP ABOUT ANOTHER 11 MILLION. SO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT AN TRANSIT BUDGET SOMEWHERE IN THE 470, 460, $470 MILLION RANGE. OUR REVENUES ARE AB 4 MILLION OR SO. AND -- 44 MILLION. THIS LITTLE WOULD RAISE, AS PEOPLE HAVE NOTE, ABOUT 4 MILLION MORE. THAT'S BASICALLY 20% OF THE TWO UHERO RISE IN THE COST OF TRANSIT. TWO YEAR RISE. THE RATIONAL THAT WE'VE THIS IS THAT WE DO SEE SOME USER PAY. SOME FARE AMOUNT, CURRENTLY, THAT USER PAY WOULD BE AT ABOUT THE 10% OF THE REAL COST OF THE OPERATING SYSTEM. AND IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WE'RE STRETCHING OUR CITY BUDGET IN ORDER TO PAY FOR ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY ARE TRANSIT BUDGET NOW, IS GREATER THAN 10% OF THE BUDGET I THINK IT'S 12 TO 13% RATE. I'M A TRANSIT PROPONENT. I'M NOT, I'M VERY MUCH TRANSIT ROPROPONENT. HAVE TO SEE A BALANCE WHAT IT WAS. BROUGHT UP BY ONE OF THE TESTIFIERS THEY WERE AGAINST THE ELDERLY AND DISABLED FEES GOING UP AND NOT GOING UP. WE HAD PROPOSED TO INCREASE THOSE FEES BY NOMINAL AMOUNT. FIVE DOLLARS. PER YEAR. AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR DISABLINGED AND SENIOR PEOPLE, MORE THAN 90% OF THOSE THAT RIDE THAT ARE DISABLED OR SENIOR, PURCHASE ANEL WHAT PASS FOR $45. THAT IS DOES NOT CHANGE. HERE. PURCHASE AN ANNUAL PASS, ALL FOR FINDING ADDITIONAL REVENUE SOURCES IF WE CAN. SUCCESSFUL GETTING P BUSINESSES INCLUDE MANY OF THE HOTEL INDUSTRY, MANY REPRESENTATIVED BY LOCAL 5, TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE SUBSIDY FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES. THINK MORE THAN WE CAN GET OUR BUSINESSES, AND OUR OTHER INSTITUTIONS TO SUPPORT TRANSIT FOR THEIR EMPLOYEE, THE SAME WAY THEY SUPPORTED FOR LONGTERM CARE, HEALTH INSURANCE, RETIREMENT SYSTEMS, IT'S A GREAT BENEFIT. IT'S NOT THAT COSTLY FOR BUSINESSES. AND IT WOULD BE HELP US AWFUL LOVES STARBUCKS LOT IF WE CAN DO THAT. OFFENSIVELY OT AWFUL LOT IF WE CAN DO THAT. DONALD BROUGHT UP MEDQUEST ISSUE. I AGREE. SHOULD GO BACK TO THE STATE TO TRY TO GET MORE FUNDS FROM MED-QUEST. MED-QUEST IS REALLY FINANCED BY MEDICAID. AND MEDICAID IS IN CRISIS RIGHT NOW. SO IT'S NOT I DON'T THINK TIMING IS RIGHT AT THIS POINT TO COMPLICATED DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES WITH WISH LIKE T. IF THINGS SORT OF PAN OUT WITH WHAT T DOING WITH MEDICAID FUNDING SURE GO BACK AND ADVOCATE FOR DOING THAT. BUT THINK DON'T THINK THAT CURRENTLY, IT'S IT'S TIME TO DO THAT. THERE WAS A, QUESTION I KNOW BEEN BROUGHT UP, TRYING TO ANSWER THEM ALL FAIRLY, THERE WAS A QUESTION BROUGHT UP WHY DO WE ALLOW FREE CITY WORKERS TO USE? LEGITIMATE QUESTION. WE HAVE A TWO-YEAR PILOT AND THE RATIONALE FOR THE TWO YEAR PILOT IS BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING MAJOR HE RENOVATION TO OUR CIVIC CENTER PARKING STRUCTURE GOING TO ELIMINATE PARKING FOR SO MANY EMPLOYEES, REDUCE PARKING. AND SO TO THE EXTENT WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WHAT I WE CAN GET MORE EMPLOYEES ON TO TRANSIT, IT WILL HEN OUT IN THAT THING. IT WILL HELP HUT. CONVERTED NUMBER OF FORMER PARTNERS IN TRANSIT RIDERS THROUGH THAT PROGRAM. OUR TRANSIT RIDERSHIP BY CITY WORKS HAS GONE UP FROM 45 HAD UNTO 19,000. PER MONTHS. NUMBER OF CITY WORKERS THAT HAVE TOUCHED TRANSIT IN A MONTH HAS GONE UP 200 TO ABOUT 1100. WE ARE DOING IT. GOING TO EVALUATE IT AFTER WOULD YEARS. WE MAY GO BACK TO PAY. AFTER TWO YEARS. MARRIAGE RATIONALE FOR IT AS MITIGATION FOR WHEN WE START DOING OUR RENOVATION ON OUR PARKING STRUCTURE. MAJOR RAE RATIONALE, MANY QUESTIONS THAT MEMBERS PRESENTS MAY HAVE. HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES. >>Chair Waters: APPRECIATE THAT. MEMBERS ANY FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR? >>Councilmember Okimoto: YOU MENTIONED COST TO ON IT TO OPERATECAN YOU TELL US HOW MY GENERAL FUND SUBSIDIZED FOR THE BUS AND RAIL? DEALING WITH THE BUS FARES RIGHT NOW. >>Testifier: SO THE SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR BUSSES ARE WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE PASSENGER FARES. NUCLEIC ACIDIFICATION TEST ABOUT 10% OF THE SYSTEM. EL PASSENGER FARES. ALLOCATE ABOUT 21 MILLION A YEAR. IN FEDERAL FUNDING. DIRECTLY TOWARDS THE OPERATION. AND THAT'S IN THE LOW 5, 4% RANGE. BALANCE OF IT IS LARGELY TRANSFER TO THE BUS TRANSPORTATION FUND. OR THE TRANSPORTATION FUND. AND THE SOURCE OF THAT TRANSFER IS PRIMARILY PROPERTY TAXES. SOMETIMES IT HAS HIGHWAY FUNDS IN IT. SOMETIMES IT HAS PROPERTY TAX IN IT. IT'S ALWAYS PREDOMINANTLY PROPERTY TAX AND BALANCE BETWEEN HIGHWAY AND FUND AND PROPERTY TAX VARIES SLIGHTLY. I THINK ANDY KAWANO WOULD BE BETTER TO ANSWER THE NUANCES OF HOW THE SPLIT IS. BUT TO ABOUT 85% OF THE COST IS BORNE BY EITHER TRANSPORTATION HIGHWAY FUND OR BY PROPERTY TAXES. A. >>Councilmember Okimoto: YOU MENTIONED 80%. OF THE 450 MILLION. LOOK AT ABOUT 340, ABOUT 345, 350 MILLION IS SUBSIDIZED? IS THAT CORRECT. >>Chair Waters: >>Testifier: 340 TO 345 IS THE COST OF THE OPERATION. THE OTHER 60 MILLION OR SO THAT WE GET FROM FARES, AND FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WOULD REDUCE THAT TO LESSER AMOUNT. SO IT'S NOT 440 SUBSIDY. LIKE 380 OR SOMETHING. 380 MILLION. >>Councilmember Okimoto: THANK YOU. I DID ASK THIS IN COMMITTEE. ASK IT AGAIN. BECAUSE THERE WAS VALID DISCUSSION BASED ON WHAT WOULD, HOW THIS WOULD IMPACT RIDERSHIP. THOSE WHO ARE FACED WITH RIDING, CHOOSE TO RIDE TRANSPORTATION AND THEN WHAT THE RATES WOULD DO DO THAT. IF THESE RATES ARE NOT INCREASED, WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO YOU, TO THE DEPARTMENT, TO THE RES PEOPLE ARE RELEASING EVERY DAY I? RESOURCE PINEAPPLE ARE RELY UG O. HOW WOULD -- PEOPLE ARE RELYING ON EVERY DAY. HOW WOULD I AM OPERATIONS. >> WE'RE NOT MIDST OF HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW. TOUGH FILE FOR THE CITY. TOUGH TIME FOR THE CITY. IN DETERMINES YOU HOW TO BALANCE ALL THE COMPETING IT NEEDS POLICE DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, GENERAL GOVERNMENT, AND ALL THE OTHER ONES, THAT'S A BUDGET DIVISION ISSUE. BUT I KNOW FROM JUST MY A LITTLE BIT TOUCHING IT, THAT THIS IS A EXCEPTIONALLY HARD YEAR TO MAKE THAT BALANCE. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT MY BUDGET WOULD BE IN THE ABSENCE OF THIS REVENUE SOURCE. BUT IF, TO GIVE MAYBE A PICTURE GRAHAM, OR SOMETHING, IF WE WERE $4 MILLION SHORT, THAT'S A COST OF ABOUT 8 BUSSES IN SERVICE FOR A YEAR. >>Councilmember Okimoto: ESTIMATING THAT THAT WOULD IMPACT JOBS, ROUTES, WHEN YOU TAKE OUT 8 BUSSES FOR THE YEAR. THOSE ARE THE IMPACTS? >>Testifier: YES. IT WOULD AFFECT, NEWER U IN ONE HARDEST PART IS FIGURING OUT WORRY WOULD TAKE IT FROM. BUT WHERE YOU WOULD TAKE IT FROM. OTHER IMPACT IS, YOU DON'T SAVE MONEY BY REDUCING THE NUMBER OF BUS. YOU SAVE MONEY BY REDUCING AMOUNT OF PAYROLL. >>Councilmember Okimoto: THANK YOU SO MUCH. DIRECTOR. THANK YOU CHAIR. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR? COUNCILMEMBER WEYER. >>Councilmember Weyer: THANK YOU CHAIR. COUPLE. I KNOW WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT. JUST WANT TO TALK THROUGH IT AGAIN. AT THE PRESENT TIME HAVE A POSITION, LAST DEPARTMENT HAVE A POSITION. VACKEDDING WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE MEASURE UNLESS REDUCED FARE WENT UP TO VERY LOW INCOME. AND EXAMPLE SPHREEMLY LOW INCOME -- EXTREMELY LOW INCOME. RIGHT NOW, QUALIFIED FOR DEHE DEDEUSED RATE YOU HAVE TO MAKE REDUCE THE RATE HAVE TO MAKE 40 GRAND OR LESS FAMILY OF THREE. 41ISH, $2,000. I KNOW IF WE WENT UP TO VERY LOW INCOME UNDER STANDARD FOLKS MAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT, SAY 50% OF THE AREA MEDIUM INCOME, I KNOW WE HAD A CONVERSATION AND WHAT WAS THE IMPACT OR FIRST WHAT WOULD THE DEPARTMENT POSITION BE ON THAT AND THEN WHY? >>Testifier: YES, I DID DO THOSE NUMBERS. I KNOW I SHARED THEM WITH SOME COUNCILMEMBERS. THOSE PROJECTIONS. ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY DO IS THEY ERODE THE AMOUNT, THERE'S WE DON'T MAKE A LOT OF MONEY FROM THE LOW INCOME FARES. THAT'S $45 A YEAR. FOR DISABLED OR SENIOR THAT COMES OUT TO EIGHT CENTS PER RIDE. AND THAT'S A PRETTY LOW AMOUNT TO RIDE A TRIP. 8 OR NINE CENTS. WHERE WE DO LOSE THE MONEY IS ERODES OUR REVENUE FROM FULL FARES. AND MY ESTIMATE OF EARLIER PROPOSAL TO LOOK ATEL AUTHORIZING ANYONE WHO HAD A SECTION 8 VOUCHER, TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT LOW INCOME CATEGORY, WAS THAT IT WOULD ERODE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 2 OF THE 4 MILLION, A LITTLE BIT LIKE ABOUT HALF OF THE REVENUE THAT WOULD BE GENERATED OTHERWISE WOULD BE ERODED. BY THAT. SOME OF THOSE PRETTY HIGH. MANY SO OF THOSE SECTIONS 8'S INCOMES ARE MORE THAN 100,000. I KNOW IT'S LOW. IN HAWAII. I SYMPATHIZE WITH EVERYBODY IN HAWAII OVER OUR COST OF LIVING. BUT SO MANY OF THEM GO PRETTY HIGH. SO. >>Councilmember Weyer: I APPRECIATE THAT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK. BUT THE NUMBERS JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT. >>Councilmember Weyer: THAT'S HELPFUL. I GUESS WHAT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND, I'LL WRAP UP WITH THIS. TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, WE HAVE THESE VARIOUS STATUSES GET REDUCED FARE. I'M WONDERING, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE HOW L LOW INCOME SOMEONE IS TO WARRANT THE NEED FOR REDUCED FARE? BECAUSE I GUESS WHAT IS THE DISTINCTION? WHY ARE HIGH INCOME EARNS OF OTHER STATUSES MORE DESERVING, OF LOW FAIR. ONLY ASK SAYING LITTLE OVER HALF THE RIDERS ARE 50% AMI AND BELOW, WORKING FAMILIES I TRYING TO GET TO WORK. 54 HRS OF US DON'T HAVE A CAR AT ALL. WE HAVE RIDERS RELY ON IT TO GET FOOD, TO THE DOCTOR, GET PRESCRIPTION. YOU KNOW THIS. YOU'RE TRANSPORTATION EXPERT. TO SCHOOL. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND REASONING AND ANALYSIS FOR HOW STRUCTURED. NOW IT'S JUST MY CONCERN. BEFORE,ER I STILL HAVE TO OPPOSE IT UNLESS WEEL DOCUMENT IT BECAUSE FOR ME, I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE AT LEAST WENT UP TO 50% AMI. LITTLE CONCERNED BRINGING THAT TO 2.5 HOUR DOWN TO 2 HOUR GIVEN WE HAVE FOLKS ON THE BUSTLE FOR EXTENSIVE AMOUNTS OF TIME GOING INTO RURAL COMMUNITIES PARTICULARLY IF THERE'S TRAFFIC. RIGHT NOW, IT'S 2 HOURS JUST TO GET TO KAHUKU. IF YOU LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, MAYBE HAVE TO DO TRANSFER SOMEWHERE. JUST BASED ON TRANSIT OUTPUT PULLED IT UP JUST NOW. COMING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION, I'LL END WITH THAT. TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. HOW WE MAKE THESE DETERMINATION? PURELY POLICY CALL? AND I GUESS FROM THERE, IF IS POLICY CALL, WOULD THE DEPARTMENT BE INTERESTED OR OPEN AND AT LEAST TESTING OUT 0 FARE PILOT PROGRAM? >>Testifier: WE, WE DID CITY WORKERS, AND RESULTS WERE PRETTY GOOD TO DO THAT. AS FAR AS THAT GOES. WE LOST 87,000 FROM WHAT WE USED TO MAKE. WHEN WE DID THAT. SO THERE IS ALWAYS A REVENUE LOSS. BUT I THINK THAT MY ANSWER REALLY IS THAT THE FARE IS NOT THE BARRIER TO GETTING MORE TRANSIT RIDERSHIP. TO GET MORE TRANSIT RIDERSHIP, THE SYSTEM HAS TO BE FASTER, IF HAS TO BE FREQUENT, IT HAS TO BE CONVENIENT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH SKYLINE. WE'RE TRYING TO USE, TRYING TO MAKE SKYLINE OUR CENTRAL CORE, ONE, AND INCLUDING THAT, SO WITHOUT CONTINUED IT ROBUSTNESS AND WAY WE CAN RAISE FARES, ONE OF THE IMPACTS PROBABLY BE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT MORE FASTER FREQUENT SERVICES FOR PEOPLE THAT I THINK WOULD REALLY RAISE OF MORE RIDE E'O RIDER SHOP. THAN REDUCING FARES TO SAY NOTHING. PEOPLE RIDERSHIP. IT WAS ARE R BROUGHT UP BY SOME OF THE TESTIFIER IT'SER ARE. MAIN ISSUE FOR PEOPLE RIDING THE BUS IS HOW CONVENE AND HOW FAST IT IS FOR THEM TO COMPLETE THEIR TRIP. THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON. >>Councilmember Weyer: I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT IF WE'RE TALKING, I'LL END WITH THIS. NOT A QUESTION. BUT I STRUGGLE WITH IT BECAUSE IF YOU'RE SAYING WE TREER INTRYING TO INCREASE RIDERSHIPRP FOLKS DON'T NEED TO US IT. HAVE A CAR. TRYING THEY GET THEM OUT OF THEIR CAR. FOLKS DON'T HAVE ANOTHER OPTION. AND SO THAT IS REALLY MY CONCERNER. BECAUSE THERE ARE FOLKS LIKE THAT. RELY ON PUBLIC TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER. SYSTEM. I DO APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION. AND LIKE I SAID, RESPECTED AND UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. THANK YOU. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR? SEEING NONE. I JUST HAVE ONE. COMMITTEE DRAFT CAME OUT OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, WAS A COMPROMISE, RIGHT? COMMITTEE DID NOT GIVE YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR. ORIGINAL LIMIT RIGHT? >>Testifier: RIGHT. ORIGINALLY. SEVERAL COMPROMISE AND I APPRECIATE THE, WILLINGNESS OF THE COMMITTEE TO HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH US TO WORK THROUGH THOSE. BUT WE DID NOT, BECAUSE OF SEVERAL MEMBERS CONCERNS OVER SENIOR FARES OVER DISABLED FARE, OVER LOWER INCOME FARES, WE DID WE HAD ORIGINALLY PROPOSED INCREASE THOSE BY NOMINAL AMOUNT. BUT WE DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT. IN THE WAKE OF SOME SIGNIFICANT OPPOSITION FROM COUNCILMEMBERS. WE DID NOT GO THROUGH WITH THE FREE COMPANION FOR FIXED ROUTE. BECAUSE OF CONCERNS FROM THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY, FROM DCAB, FROM OTHER, SO WE MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT THINGS. WE LLC INCREASED DISPROPORTIONATELY FARE FOR VISITORS. AND THAT'S A POLICY THAT I CONTINUE TO SUPPORT IS TO TRY TO STRUCTURE OUR FARES OVER THE LONGTERM SO THAT OUR RESIDENTS PAY LESS. AND OUR VISITOR IT'S PAY MORE. THAT ALSO EVEN GOES TO OUR CASH FARE. WHICH MORE THAN HALF OF OUR CASH PARE FARE COMES FROM VISITORS. CASH FARE. IT'S HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT A PERFECT FARE POLICY WOULD BE. I THINK CLOSING, OURS IS ONE OF THE LOWER ONES OF SYSTEMS OF OUR SIZE. OUR PASSES, ARE LOW. OUR CASH FARES ARE HIGH. BUT AGAIN, IT REFLECTS THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF OUR RIDERSHIP. WE TRY TO ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS TO TACKLE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE EXCEPTIONALLY LOW FARES THAT WE OFFER ON 45, BARRIER GETTING THEM, I RECOGNIZE THAT. TALKED WITH DCS ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY WHERE WE CAN REDUCE THE BARRIER FOR THAT. AN A YOUTH CARD, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT NOT REQUIRING VETTING OF AGE. FOR YOUTH. BECAUSE THEY'RE PRETTY EASY FOR PEOPLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER YOU GOT A YOUTHFUL PERSON. AND WE. WORKING WITH THE D.O.E. O THAT TO MAKE IT EASIER ADMINISTRATIVELY. >>Chair Waters: FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU DIRECTOR. WE'RE GO IN DISCUSSION. COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. >>Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU. WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR MORE THAN HALF A YEAR NOW AND SINCE THEN, I'VE HAD DIFFERENT TRANSIT OR BUS RELATED COMMUNITY/TOWN HALL MEETINGS IN MY DISTRICT. I THINK I DID MENTION ONE OFFER OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT EVERY SINGLE BESIDES ONE COUNCIL DISTRICT, WE HAD REPRESENTATIVES AND NEIGHBORS FROM ALL COUNCIL DISTRICTS ASSESSMENT COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA'S. COME TO MY MEETING. AND ALTHOUGH TALKING ABOUT SEGMENT 2 SKYLINE SEGMENT 2 ROUTES, OF COURSE DISCUSSION ABOUT P FARES CAME UP AT ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS. I KNOW THAT AND HAVE BEEN, WAS HERE WHEN THE STAFF HERE WHEN THE LAST FARE RAZZ E'O RAISE WAS REJECTED FARE RAISE WAS REJECTED AT THE COUNCIL. SOME BUS ROUTES CAME AND WENT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE SAW THE ONSET OF NOW TWO SEGMENTS OF SKYLINE AND THE KNEWER BUS ROUTES THAT ARE NOW CONNECTING MAUKA AND MAKAI TO SKYLINE AS WELL. AND SO WHILE I DID SUPPORT HASTILY, NICELY, BUT OF COURSE, CAREFULLY, THE RATES IN THE BEGINNING, AND HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE MED-QUEST, I DON'T WANT TO, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO COVER WHAT WE CAN WHAT WE NEED TO COVER AND SO I DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT ANY RAISES TO OUR BUS FARES CURRENTLY. SO IF WE GO WITH ORIGINAL BILL BEFORE US, ON T AGENDA. I WILL BE VOTING 2. VOTING NO. FD-1 I WILL BE SUPPORTING THAT. >>Chair Waters: COULD BE CLEAR ON THE TABLE. IS MOTION TO AMEND. SO YOU GOT IT RIGHT. JUST TO BE CLEAR, FOR EVERYONE'S INFORMATION. SINCE THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS MOTION TO AMEND, IF YOU AGREE WITH THE MOTION TO AMEND, THE VOTE IS A YES. IF YOU AGREE WITH THE BUDGET CHAIR AND WHAT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE POSTED, VOTE WOULD BE A NO. KEEPING IN THAT IN MIND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMEMBER WEYER. >>Councilmember Weyer: THANK YOU CHAIR. IEL SECONDED MOTION TO AMEND. SUPPORTING THE REVERSION JUST TO PREVENT THE INCREASE IN RATES THEMSELVES. SO WOULD SUPPORT AMENDMENT VOTING PROBABLY WITH RESERVATIONS FOR THE FINAL VERSION. I THINK I DO THAT BECAUSE I SEE THE PATH TO AVOID MEDIAN INCREASE. LIKE ELIJAH I TRULY BEST SERVING OUR COMMUNITY NORM U INIF WE INCREASED THAT EX EXTREMELY LOW INCOME LEVEL IS EXTREMELY LOW. THAT'S WHY IT SAYS EXTREME. 30% AMI, AND WE BELOW GETTING DOWN TO 152015, BORDERLINE HOMELESS. TO SOME EXTENT. OBVIOUSLY. MORE STABLE AS YOU GO UP. 2015, SO UNDERSTANDING THAT'S FREE TRANSPORTATION PRECEDING EMPLOYEES SUCCESS, THERE'S EVEN MORE REVIEW TO A PILOT PROGRAM KNOWING THAT WE HAVE INVESTED RESEARCH INTO DIFFERENT REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES, EMPTY HOMES TAX, FLOOR LEADERS LOOKING AT RECLASSIFICATION POSSIBILITIES ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE. SO WANTED TO SHARE THAT. MAHALO CHAIR. >>Chair Waters: OKAY. SO FAR, YES FROM CORDERO. WEYER, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO. >>Councilmember Okimoto: THANK YOU CHAIR MUCH I WANT TO FIRST EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION AND MAHALO TO DIRECTOR MORTON HIS TEAM. AS WELL AS EXAM NISHIMOTO VICE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE ONAR BUDGET. WORKED WITH MY OFFICE. TO COME TO WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. WORKING ON THIS MEASURE. I ALSO WANT TO PRESS MY GRATITUDE TO RATE COMMISSION FOR THEIR WORK AND TOOK ON THIS DIFFICULT TASK. AS COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO MENTIONED. THIS IS PRIOR TO SOME OF US SITTING ON THIS IN THIS BODY. BEEN DPEEFERRED IN THE PAST. I MAKE NOTE BULLYING OF BEING RECOMMENDATIONS ---BULK OF THESE FROM VOLUNTEERS SERVING IN VOLUNTARY CAPACITY APPOINTED PI THE MAYOR. I DON'T WANT TO PEOPLE TO THINK WE ARE SWAYED KIND OF INFLUENCE. NOT THE CASE, GOOD AMOUNT OF COLLABORATION AS DIRECTOR MORTON STATED, DISCUSSION, A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE BACK AND FORTH, MEETINGS, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE A WHILE. I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSED THIS IN THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. I THINK. WORKING TOGETHER, I FEEL WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ARRIVE AT AN REASONABLEEL COMPROMISE KEEPING IN MIND THAT THE RATES FOR OUR KUPUNA, AND LOW INCOME RIDERS AND HANDY-VAN ALONG PCA'S PERSONAL CARE ATTENDANTS WERE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THOSE, RAYS AN SERVICES AS YOU MENTIONED, DIRECTOR MORTON CONFIRMED THAT. WASN'T PART OF INITIAL, MEASURE. RATES AND SERVICE. WORKING BACK AND FORTH WERE ABLE TO COMPROMISE ON THAT. WHILE I WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE, NEVER RAISE FAIRS OR HAVE RIDERSHIP BE FREE. REALITY IS NOT LONGTERM. LONGTERM POSSIBILITY. NOT SUSTAINABLE. NOT REALISTICMENT I LIKE TO THINK THINGS ANALOGIES IS NICE TO HAVE AND IT NEED TO HAVE. AS PARENT MYSELF AND OTHER PARENTS, NIGHT MIEMENT RELATE . CHILDS TO YOU CHRISTMAS LIST FOR SANTA. THINGS ON THAT. UNDERSTAND CHILD COMES TO ME MULTIPAGE POWERPOINT WHAT SHE NTS CHRISTMAS I WISH I DO GIVE HER EVERYTHING. NICE TO HAVE AND NEED TO HAVE. SIMPLY 23409 POSSIBLE. THIS IS THE CASE THAT WE'RE FACED WITH. SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE. WE'RE FACE THE RIGHT NOW. DRIRKT DDIRECTOR DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. NOT MAKING THESE RECOMMENDED JESUS A ADJUSTMENTS KNOWINGLY IMPACT THE IS ANTONIO WILLIAMS. WILL RESULT IN THE ISERI E'O-DOCTORS SYSTEM. RESULT SERVICES BEING ALTERED NEGATIVE WAY, ROUTES POSSIBLY EVEN. >>Council Clerk: E'O JOBS WE NEED TO CONTINUE ALLOW THE BUS HANDY-VAN AND OTHERS SERVICES BE ABLE TO OPERATE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION FOR OUR RESIDENTS. WE NEED TO COMPENSATE BUS OPERATOR AND MAINTENANCE PERSONAL ADD ADEQUATELY. NOT BE A HE ACHIEVED DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT. NOT SUSTAINABLE OBJECT OR POSSI. CAN'T KEEP KICKING CAN DOWN THE ROAD. EMPATHIZED WITH THOSE EXPRESSED CONCERNS IMPORTANT TO NOT PASS THE BUCK DOWN AGAIN AND THEREFORE, I AM STANDING IN SUPPORT OF CD2 VERSION BUT NOT THE FD VERSION THAT IS ON THE TABLE TO AMEND AT THIS TIME. THANK CHA IR. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. >>Councilmember Dos Santos Tam: THANK YOU CHAIR. WE SPENT BEFORE LUNCH, TIME TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABILITY. TALKING ABOUT HOUSING. WHICH IS BIGGEST COST THAT PEOPLE ISLAND FACE. SECOND BIGGEST COST PEOPLE FACE IS TRANSPORTATION. AND THE TIME THAT PEOPLE SPEND IN THEIR CARS GETTING AROUND. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO PREVIOUS SPEAKER, BUS IS NOT OPTIONAL. FOR MANY FAMILIES HOW BEGET TO WORK. GET TO APPOINTMENTS AND ESSENTIAL SERVICE NEED TO HAVE R THE BUS IS NEED TO HAVE. BUT THE RAISES, INCREASES, FARES, IS NOT. 60% OF OVER BUS RI RIDE U RIDERS MAKE LESS THAN $50,000 A YEAR. 20% MAKE LESS THAN $20,000 A YEAR. INCREASE THEIR FARES BY 10 TH A MONTH, OR QUARTER A DAY, FOR FAMILY OF FOUR, THAT'S $360. THAT'S ONE TO 2% OF THEIR HOUSEHOLD BUDGET. AND WE HERE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND WHO WE ARE HERE TO SERVE. WHO WE'RE HERE TO FIGHT FOR SAY WE CARE FOR THE POOR AND OUR COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE DEPARTMENT, WERE HE NEED TO FIND OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUE. THE THESE ADDITIONAL BUS SERVICE CANNOT BE TAKEN ON THE BACKS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE RIDING BUS TO GET AROUND. OVER HALF OF OUR BUS RIDERS DO NOT OWN A CAR. THEY HAVE NO OPTIONS. IF WE VOTE FOR THIS TODAY, WE ARE SAYING TO THEM, YOUR COSTS ARE GO UP. AND AS SOMEBODY RIDES BUS MYSELF, I CAN'T LOOK THEM IN THE EYE AND SAY, YOU SHOULD BE PAYING MORE. YOUR COST SHOULD GO UP. EACH AND EVERY TIME YOU GET ON THE BUS TO GO WORK. TO GO TO THE DOCTOR. TO TAKE YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL SCULLE. WE CANNOT HAVE THIS. TO SCHOOL. VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED, IF THIS BILL MOVES FORWARD AND RAISED COSTS FOR LOCAL FAMILIES AT A TIME WHEN WE WERE FALLING OVER OURSELVES JUST 2 HOURS AGO TO SAY, WE'RE HERE TO REDUCE YOUR COSTS. WE'RE HERE TO INCREASE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. HOW CAN WE GO SLEEP AT NIGHT KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO RAISE THESE COSTS ON BACKS OF THE POOREST IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHO I SEE EACH AND-DAY FORECAST GET ON THE BUS AND HAVE THE CHANCE TO TALK TO, MANY HAD UNITED AYEAH FARE INCREASES ARE HAPPENING NOMENT IDEA. THEY'RE GOING TOTE GHI ONLINE A BUS JULY 1 BILL PASS HAVE TO FORK OVER MORE MONEY. >> I'M GOING TO SAY NO BUT ENCOURAGE, MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE FOR THE FD-1. WHICH WOULD STOP THESE INCREASES SO WE CAN HAVE A MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT FARE SYSTEM FOR OUR BUSSES THAT IS BOTH FAIR AND FARE. THANK YOU. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU SO MUCH. TUPOLA BRIEF COMMENTS. DO GO BACK, LONGER COMMENT. I WANTED TO FIRST SAY THAT, I THINK FOR MY COMMUNITY, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY BUS RIDERS, I MEAN, LITERALLY IF WE'RE LEAVING WAIANAE AND IT'S HA4:00 OR 5:00 IN THE MORNING EVERY SINGLE BUS FULL. PEOPLE STANDING EVERYBODY NEEDS BUS. IF ANY OF THE ROUTES GOT CUT, GAME OVER BECAUSE THAT'S THE OVER TIME OF IP COMB THAT PEOPLE HAVE. STR GO FOR WORK. YOU INCOME. CAN'T GET TO WORK. LESS ROUTES THINGS HAVE BEEN CUT, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS WORSE THAN PAYING A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR THER FARES. EITHER WAY, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A CATCH 22. IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO RAISE RATES FOR FAMILY ALSO BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF THE OPERATIONS IS AFFECTED, THIS IS WORSE FOR PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY. TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, IT'S WORSE IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROUTES. OR IF BUSSES FALL INTO SUCH HIFF I DISREPAIR, HEAVY DISREPAIR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE WE CAN'T WORK THEM ANY MORE MORE COMMENTS BUT I WILL SAY THAT I DO THINK THAT THIS BACK AND FORTH ESPECIALLY WITH DIRECTOR MORTON, TRYING VERY DILIGENTLY TO GET AS MANY SUBSIDIES AS WE CONSIDER ARE. STATE. FEDERAL, PUSHING THINGS ALONG. AND WE JUST DISCUSSED THE WHOLE SUPPORTING OUR BUS DRIVERS BECAUSE THEY NEED OUR SUPPORT. THEY'RE NEGOTIATING. BUT WE CAN'T ONLY SUPPORT BUS DRIVERS. AND NOT THE BUSSES THEY DRIVE. WE'RE SHORT MAINTENANCE WORKERS THERE. USED TO HAVE A LOT OF GUYS MAINTAINING BUSSES. WE DON'T HAVE THAT ANY MORE. SO I THINK IN GENERAL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO KEEP ONE OF THE BEST SINCE FASI DAYS ONE OF THE BEST FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION THAT IS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. D.O.E. HAS ABANDON THEIRS. ITS ON US TO TRY TO KEEP OUR TRANSPORTATION WELL MAINED, WELL RIDDEN AS WELL AS WHAT DIRECTOR SAID, PREFERABLE BECAUSE PEOPLE PREFER IT AND THIS IS FOOD F FASTER BETTER. WE ARE THE PREFERRED ROUTE AND RIDERSHIP CAN INCREASE. PERHAPS MOVING FORWARD DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH THIS YEAR, MAYBE WE DO HAVE TO LOOK INTO WORKING GROUP OF WHAT OTHERS WAYS WE CAN GET BUSINESSES TO KIND GET MORE INVOLVED. MAYBE TO HELP PAY DOWN COST. SECOND AIRLINE HOW DO WE MAKE IT MORE EXPEDITIOUS SO IT IS PREFERRED ROUTE. AS OPPOSED TO NICE WAY TO GET THERE. BUT WE DON'T NEED THE BUS. BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT WHERE WE WERE WITH THE BUS YEARS AGO, I MEAN, PEOPLE JUST LOVED IT. NOW WE'RE FIND E'O KIND OF HANGING ON. I FEEL IT. I TALKED TO BUS DRIVERS AND I FEEL IT FROM THEM. A LOT EMTHIS ARE TALKING ABOUT. TOUGH, I GOOSE DON'T WANT TO BUS DRIVERS ANY MORE. PEOPLE NOT COMING IN. BUSSES ARE BROKEN. NOR MORE MECHANICS. SO ALL OF THIS IS PART AND PARCEL OF US THINKING WELL, AROUND ALL OF EDGES OF HOW DO WE MAINTAIN VERY WELL OILED, WELL TAKEN CARE OF SYSTEMS, AND I THINK BASED ON ALL THE BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATIONS, WITH DIRECTOR, FOR RIGHT NOW, I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE WAY WE HAVE TO GO. WHICH IS UNDERLYING BILL. THANK YOU. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. FURTHER DISCUSSION MEMBERS? SEEING NONE. WE'RE ALLEN ROTRD. ROLE KAU KAULIKE KALAMA ON THE MOTION TO AMEND. ROLL CALL ON MOTION TO AMEND. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR,. >>Councilmember Cordero: AYE. >>Councilmember Dos Santos Tam: AYE. >>Councilmember Kia'aina: NO. >>Vice Chair Nishima: RESPONSE SPHONS. >>Councilmember Okimoto: NO. >>Councilmember Tulba: (NO RESPONSE.) >>Councilmember Tupola: NO. >>Councilmember Weyer: AYE. >>Councilmember Waters: NO. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE THREE AYES. AND SIX NOs. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU MEMBERS. BRING US US BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE RRNLG MOTION? ORIGINAL MOTION? SEEING NONE. ROLE CAW. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR,EL. >>Councilmember Cordero: NO. >>Councilmember Dos Santos Tam: NO. >>Councilmember Kia'aina: AYE. >>Vice Chair Nishima: (NO (NO RESPONSE.) >>Councilmember Okimoto: AYE. >>Councilmember Tulba: RESERVATIONS. >>Councilmember Tupola: AYE. >>Councilmember Weyer: NO. >>Councilmember Waters: AYE. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, SIX AYES. THREE NOs. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. CR1-26 HAS BEEN ADOPTED AND BILL 54, 2025, CD2, HAS PASSED THIRD READING. BOTTOM OF PAGE 16. >>Councilmember Okimoto: I MOVE THAT COMMITTEE REPORT 2, 26 BE ADOPTED AND BILL 55, 2025 C CD2 AMENDED PASS THIRD READING. >> SECOND. >>Chair Waters: MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO FOR THE EXPLANATION. >>Councilmember Okimoto: O RELATING TO PULLTY FAMILY RENTAL HOUSING PROGRAM FEES. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. MR. CLERK ANY TESTIFIERS? MULTIFAMILY. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WE HAVE ONE PERSON REMOTELY. INDICATING THINK WANT TO TESTIFY. >>Chair Waters: PLEASE PROCEED. >>Testifier: ALOHA. WANT TO SPEAK QUICKLY ABOUT THE LAST BILL. RIGHT NOW, PROBABLY THE MOST DISAPPOINTED EVER BEEN IN THE -- >>Chair Waters: DID GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY. ON BILL 54. >>Testifier: I'M DISAPPOINTED NEW CHAIR WATERS. >>Chair Waters: I UNDERSTAND. BUT CAN YOU COMBINE YOUR OR LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO BILL 55 AT HAND? >>Testifier: >>Chair Waters: SEEING NONE. ANY OTHER TESTIFIERS ON BILL 55? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WE HAVE NONE. >>Chair Waters: TPHA*PBG U ANY DISCUSSION MEMBERS? THANK YOU. SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL. MR. CLERK. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. ORDER R. >>Councilmember Cordero: AYE. TAM F>>Councilmember Dos Santos Tam: TAM AYE. >>Councilmember Kia'aina: AYE. >>Vice Chair Nishima: AYE. >>Councilmember Okimoto: AIEA. >>Councilmember Tulba: AYE. EL. >>Councilmember Tupola: AYE. EL. >>Councilmember Weyer: AYE. >>Councilmember Waters: AYE. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, NINE AYES. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. CR226 HAS BEEN ADOPTED AND BILL 55, 2025 CD2 HAS PASSED THIRD READING. MOVING TOP OF PAGE 17. COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO. >>Councilmember Okimoto: MOVE THAT COMMIT A REPORT 326 BE ADOPTED AND BILL 63, 2025 CD1 PASS THIRD READING. >>Vice Chair Nishima: SECOND. >>Chair Waters: MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO EXPLANATION. >>Councilmember Okimoto: O RELATING TO REAL PROPERTY TAXATION. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU I THINK WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED TESTIFIER. NATALIE IWASA. >>Testifier: NATALIE IWASA FOR THE RECORD. THE FIRST OF ALL I WANTED TO SAY I FULLY SUPPORT THE INTENT BEHIND THIS BILL. I DO NOT THINK IT'S GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE HOWEVER. AND ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS IS 45 DAY R ROLL BACK PERIOD. EVEN IF THE LANDLORD IS RENTING TO A FRIEND OR FAMILY MEMBER, IF THAT PROPERTY HAS SUFFERED FIRE, STORM, THERE'S SOME MAJOR REGISTRATION THAT IS DUE, 45 DAY PERIOD IS GOING TO BE NOT MET -- RENOVATION AROUND PROPERTY WILL BE DISQUALIFIED AND LOSE THE EXEMPTIONS STATUS. THAT ISER HUGE RISK IN MY OPINION. FOR ANY LANDLORD WHO MIGHT CONSIDER THIS PROPOSED PROEM. AND I NOTICE THAT GOES INTO EFFECT, JULY 1, 2027. ALSO THE SAME DATE THAT THE RES A GOES FROM 1 MILLION TO 1 POINT U .3 MILLION. ADDED COMMENT WITH ALL OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, THAT YOU'VE HAD ABOUTEL AFFORDABILITY, RAISING PRICES, KEEPING THINGS LOW, RES A IS NOT THE ANSWER. AND CITY IS ADDICTED TO THAT FUND. MY CONCERN IN 27 IS THAT THOSE RATES ARE GOING TO GO SKY HIGH. AND AT THAT TIME HAVE MORE PROPERTIES IN THE RES A AND JUST GOING TO HAVE MORE COMPOUNDED PROBLEMS WITH THE RENT BECAUSE AS LANDLORDS INCREASE RENT, RENTERS MOVE DOWN TO THE LOWER PRICE PROPERTIES. PUTS PRESSURE ON THOSE AND ONES AT THE BOTTOM CAN'T FIND RENT. PLACE TO RENT. SO I JUST ASK TO YOU BE TO LOOK AT ER O OPTIONS. LIKE EXEMPTIONS. LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO GO A LITTLE OVER. >>Chair Waters: NO PROBLEM. ANY OTHER TESTIFIERS? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WE HAVE NONE. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU MEMBERS WE'RE IN DISCUSSION DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL MR. CLERK. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR,. >>Councilmember Cordero: AYE. >>Councilmember Dos Santos Tam: AYE. >>Councilmember Kia'aina: YEW. >>Vice Chair Nishima: RESPONSE SPHONS. >>Councilmember Okimoto: AYE. >>Councilmember Tulba: A AYE. >>Councilmember Tupola: AYE. >>Councilmember Weyer: AYE. >>Councilmember Waters: AYE. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, NINE AYES. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. CR326 HAS BEEN ADOPTED AND BILL 63, 2025, CD1 HAS PASSED THIRD READING. BOTTOM OF PAGE 17. COMMITTEE OWN HOUSING HOMELESSNESS AND PARKS. COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. >>Councilmember Tupola: I MOVE THAT COMMITTEE REPORT 99, 2026 BE ADOPTED AND BILL 66, 2025, CD1 PASS THIRD READING. >>Vice Chair Nishima: SECOND. >>Chair Waters: MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA EXPLANATION. >>Councilmember Tupola: RELATING TO EXCEPTIONAL TREES. >>Chair Waters: ANY TESTIFIERS? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WE HAVE NONE. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. MEMBERS ANY DISCUSSION? SIGH NONE. ROLL CALL. >>Councilmember Cordero: AYE. >>Councilmember Dos Santos Tam: AYE. KIA'AINA AYE. >>Vice Chair Nishima: (NO RESPONSE.) >>Councilmember Okimoto: AYE. >>Councilmember Tulba: A AYE. >>Councilmember Tupola: (NO RESPONSE.) >>Councilmember Weyer: AYE. >>Councilmember Waters: AYE. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, NINE AYES. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. CR926 HAS BEEN ADOPTED. AND BILL 66, 2025 CD1 HAS PASSED THIRD READING. MOVING TOP OF PAGE 18. FROM THE COMMITTEE ON BUDGET. COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO. >>Councilmember Okimoto: I MOVE THAT COMMITTEE REPORT 6, 26 AND RESOLUTION 25-327 BE ADOPTED. >>Vice Chair Nishima: SECOND. >>Chair Waters: MOVED AND SECONDED. COMOAKD EXPLANATION. KAKOU - HAWAII'S TOWN HALL: RELATING TO THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS. COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO. >>Chair Waters: ANY TESTIFIERS? ,. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WE HAVE NONE. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. MEMBERS ANY DISCUSSION? , SEEING NONE. ANY OBJECTIONS OR RESERVATIONS? NOTING NO OBJECTIONS OR RESERVATIONS, TO THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS, CR6-26 AND RESOLUTION 25-327 HAS BEEN ADOPTED. COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO. >>Councilmember Okimoto: I MOVE COMMITTEE REPORT P 26 AND RESOLUTION 25-331 BE DPOPPED. REPORT 726. >> SECOND. >>Chair Waters: MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO FOR THE EXPLANATION. >>Councilmember Okimoto: RELATING TO THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. MR. CLERK, ANY TESTIFIERS? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WHICH HAVE NONE. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. ANY OBJECTIVES OR RESERVATIONS? NOTING NO OBJECTIONS OR RESERVATIONS, CR726 AN RESOLUTION 25-331 HAS BEEN ADOPTED. TOP OF PAGE 19. COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO. >>Councilmember Okimoto: I MOVE IN A COMMITTEE REPORT 8, 26 AND RESOLUTION 25--- 26-5 CD1 HAS AMENDED BE ADOPTED. >> SECONDED. >>Chair Waters: MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO FOR THE EXPLANATION. >>Councilmember Okimoto: RENTAL AGREEMENTING TO TRANSFER OF FUNDS. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. RELATING TO THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS. >>Chair Waters: ANY TESTIFIERS,. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR,ER WE HAVE NONE. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION MEMBERS? SEEING NONE. OBJECTION OR RESERVATIONS SNZ NOTING NO OBJECTIONS OR REZ, CRVMENT R8-26, AND RESOLUTION 26-5 CD1 HAS BEEN ADOPTED. CR8-26, BOTTOM OF PAGE 19, COMMITTEE ON HOUSINGER HOMELESSNESS AND PARKS. COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA UMPLET. >>Councilmember Tupola: COMMITTEE REPORT 10-26 RESOLUTION 25-330 BE ADOPTED. COUNCILMEMBER TULBA FOR THE SECOND? >>Councilmember Tulba: SECOND. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA FOR EXAMPLE PANGS. >>Councilmember Tupola: ACCEPTING GIFT OF HIGH BACK TRADITIONAL BENCH VALUED 3,274.51 SIT FROM BRADLEY NAKAMURA PREPARATION OF GROUNDS BRONZE PLAQUE INDESCRIPTION TO P READ DONATED BY THE FAMILY OF BJ AND BRAEDE NAKAMURA PLACED AT PU'ULOA BEACH PARK. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. MR. CLERK ANY TESTIFIERS. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WE HAVE NONE. >>Chair Waters: SEEING NONE. ANY DISCUSSION MEMBERS? , SEEING NONE. ANY OBJECTIONS HE'S? NOTING NO-DID OBJECTIONS OR RESERVATIONS. IT NO O READ, CR. R1026 AND RESOLUTION 25-330 HAS BEEN ADOPTED. PAGE 20. FROM THE COMMITTEE ON INFRASTRUCTURE, TRANSPORTATION AND TECHNOLOGY. COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. >>Councilmember Cordero: I MOVE THAT COMU EYE REPORT 11-26 AND RESOLUTION 25-332 CD1 AUTHORIZES MAYOR OR MIR'S DESIGNATE INTO MEMBER DID YOU HAVE UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY & COUNTY OF HONOLULU AND DEPARTMENT OF LAND AND NATURAL RESOURCES STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION DIVISION FOR THE REVIEW OF PERMANENT PROJECTS IN THE CHINATOWN DISSP HISTORIC DISTRICT AND MERCHANT STREET AND COMMERCIAL AND CIVIC HISTORIC DISTRICT AS AMENDED BE ADOPTED. >> SECOND. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU MEEKD. THANK YOU EXPLANATION. MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY TESTIFIERS. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WE HAVE NONE. >>Chair Waters: NG THANK YOU. ANY OBJECTIONS OR DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ANY OBJECTIONS OR RESERVATIONS? NOTING NO OBJECTION OR RESERVATIONS, CR11-26 AND RESOLUTION 25-332 RECALL CD1 HAS BEEN ADOPTED. BOTTOM OF PAGE 20 FROM THE COMMITTEE ZONING AND PLANNING. COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA. >>Councilmember Kia'aina: COMMITTEE REPORT 387, 25 AND RESOLUTION 25-316, CD1, AMENDED BE ADOPTED. >> SECOND. >>Chair Waters: MOVED AND SECONDED. KIA'AINA EXPLANATION. >>Councilmember Kia'aina: REQUIRES SPECIFIC COMMUNITY BENEFITS TO BE FUNDED BY THE APPLICANT OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESORT PROJECT AT 133 KAIULANI AVENUE, AS REQUIRED BY CONDITION 9 OF RESOLUTION 16-52, CD1, FD-1, AS AMENDED BY THE RESOLUTION 19-67, CD1. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO DO HAVE MEMBERS HERE TO -- OF PUBLIC TO TESTIFIER. ALOHA, WELCOME. PLEASE PROCEED. >>Testifier: ALOHA CHAIR. MEMBERS. TREVOR, PRESIDENT AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. WAIKIKI BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. JUST WANT TO SAY SUPER GRATEFUL FOR YOU CHAIR WATERS AND WORKING WITH US AND WITH HILTON GRAND VACATION ON COMMUNITY BENEFIT. WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY, WORKED WITH NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD, WHO WE RECEIVED UNANIMOUS A APPROVAL ON THIS PROJECT. HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU, COUNCIL MAY HAVE. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU MEMBERS ANY QUESTION FOR? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU. FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY ON THIS MEASURE? SEEING NONE. MEMBERS WE'RE IN DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE. ANY OBJECTIONS OR RESERVATIONS? NOTING IN OBJECTION OR RESERVATIONS, CR P 387, 25 AND RESOLUTION 25-316 CD1 HAS BEEN ADOPTED. MOVING TO THE TOP OF PAGE 21, COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA. >>Councilmember Kia'aina: I MOVE THAT COMMITTEE REPORT 15-26 AND RESOLUTION 25-299 CD1 AMENDED BE ADOPTED. >> SECOND. >>Chair Waters: MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA FOR THE EXPLANATION. >>Councilmember Kia'aina: THIS MEASURE GRANTS SPECIAL MANAGE THE AREA MAJOR PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW TWO STORY SINGLE UNIT DWELLING WITH ATTACHED 8 CAR GARAGE AND INTERNAL ABOVE GRADE SWIMMING POOL IN KAILUA, OAHU. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. MR. CLERK, ANY TESTIFIERS? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WE HAVE NONE. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. >>Councilmember Cordero: AYE. >>Councilmember Dos Santos Tam: AYE. >>Councilmember Kia'aina: AYE. >>Vice Chair Nishima: (NO RESPONSE.) >>Councilmember Okimoto: AYE. >>Councilmember Tulba: AYE. >>Councilmember Tupola: AYE. >>Councilmember Weyer: AYE. >>Councilmember Waters: AYE. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, NINE AYES. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. CR15-26 AND RESOLUTION 25-2999 CD1 HAS BEEN ADOPTED. COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND ECONOMY. COUNCILMEMBER TULBA. TUBE C C2026 AND RESOLUTION 25-329 BE ADOPTED. >>Councilmember Kia'aina: SECOND? MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCILMEMBER TULBA FOR THE EXPLANATION. >>Councilmember Tulba: GIFT OF NEW PHILLIPSING AND INSTALLATION VALUED AT $125,000 TO THE CITY FROM THE HONOLULU ZOOLOGICAL SOCIETY FOR GIRAFFE EXHIBIT AT THE HONOLULU ZOO. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. MR. CLERK, ANY TESTIFIERS? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WE HAVE NONE. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. MEMBERS ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ANY OBJECTIONS OR RESERVATIONS? NOTING NO OBJECTIONS OR RESERVATIONS. CR20-26 AND RESOLUTION 25-329 HAS BEEN ADOPTED. MOVING TOP OF PAGE 22. COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY AND CUSTOMER SERVICES. ER COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. >>Councilmember Dos Santos Tam: I MOVE THAT COMMITTEE REPORT 22 OF 2026 AND RESOLUTION 26-1 SHALL ADOPTED. THIS REQUEST STATE OF HAWAII TO EVALUATE AND CONSIDER REQUIRING A TEST OF KNOWLEDGE OF THE RULES OF THE ROA FOR DRIVER'S LICENSE RENEWALS. SRNLGT EKED. >>Chair Waters: MOVED AND SECONDED. EL RULES OF ROAD. JUST TOLD US THE EXPLANATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY TESTIFIERS? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WE HAVE NONE. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. OBJECTION OR RESERVATIONS? NOTING NO OBJECTIONS OR RESERVATIONS. RECALL CR22-26 AND RESOLUTION 26-1 HAS BEEN ADOPTED. EL BOTTOM OF PAGE 22, COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. >>Councilmember Dos Santos Tam: I MOVE THAT COMMITTEE REPORT 23 OF 2026 AND RESOLUTION 26-2 BE ADOPTED. THIS REQUEST STATE OF HAWAII TO INCLUDE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, BICYCLE RIGHTS AND INTERACTIONS AND MULTIMODAL ROADWAY USE AS PART OF THE DRIVERS ED. EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS. >> SECOND. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. AS WELL AS EXPLAINED. MR. CLERK, ANY TESTIFIERS? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WE HAVE NONE. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ANY OBJECTIONS OR RESERVATIONS? NOTING NO OBJECTIONS OR RESERVATIONS, CR23-26 AND RESOLUTION 26-2, HAVE BEEN ADOPTED. TOP MUCH PAGE 23. BALANCE OF COMMITTEE REPORTERS. VICE CHAIR TUPOLA. >>Councilmember Tupola: MOVE THAT BALANCE OF COMMITTEE REPORTS BE ADOPTED. ER. >>Councilmember Kia'aina: SECOND. >>Chair Waters: MOVED AND SECONDED. VICE CHAIR TUPOLA FOR THE EXPLANATION. >>Councilmember Tupola: ITTCR-1226 CONSIDERATION OF GRANT SEWER EASEMENTS AND COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONSMENTS S1, S2 GRANT OF SEWER EASEMENTS COVENANTS RESTRICTIONS EASEMENTS S3, AND GRANT OF SEWER EASEMENT S4 FOR PUBLIC USE IN HONOLULU. RECALL 1326 REQUEST FOR STLIETION TO SETTLE A CASE AGAINST CITY OF COUNSELOR DEN ISIS CIVIL NUMBER 1CC 1CCV23-001585LWC. COMMITTEE REPORT 14, 226, REQUEST FOR AUTHORIZATION TO ET IS A LAWSUIT AGAINST CITY & COUNTY OF HONOLULU ENTITLED WENDY HELL TON VERSUS CITY & COUNTY OF HONOLULU. NUMBER 1 C CV24000001 IT WILL JJK. IT ZONING COMMITTEE REPORT 17-26 GRANTING 90 DAY EXTENSION OF TIME FOR RESOLUTION 25-333 GRANTING SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA MAJOR PERMIT TO A YOU LORE THE OR CONSTRUCTION OF YOU IN SINGLE UNIT DWELLING POOL SPA GARAGE RECREATION ROOM AND INDIVIDUAL WASTEWATER SYSTEM IN WAIALUA OAHU. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. MR. CLERK, ANY TESTIFIERS? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WE HAVE NONE. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ANY OBJECTIONS OR REZ? NOTING NO OBJECTIONS OR RESERVATIONS, BALANCE OF COMMITTEE REPORTS HAVE BEEN ADOPTED. OBJECTION OR REZ. NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS. TURNING TO PAGE 24. NEW BIG STEW. >>Counc TUPOLA -- NEW BUSINESS. TUPOLA THANK YOU CHAIR. I MOVE THAT RESOLUTION 26-14 BE ADOPTED. >> SECOND. >>Chair Waters: BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. VICE CHAIR TUPOLA FOR THE EXPLANATION. >>Councilmember Tupola: ACCEPTING GIFT OF SIP SHIPPING SERVICES VALUED 8500 TO THE CITY FROM THE HONOLULU ZOOLOGICAL SOCIETY FOR THE TRANSPORTATION OF TWO FEMALE WART HOGS FROM LOS ANGELES, CARNIVAL, TO THE HONOLULU ZOO. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. MR. CLERK, ANY TESTIFIERS? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WE HAVE NONE. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ENTERPRISE SERVICES BEEN WAITING HERE FOR TAXPAYOR FUNDING YOU HOURS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY TODAY? EL COUNCILMEMBER KIA'AINA. >>Councilmember Kia'aina: KIDDING. THANK YOU. SEEING NO DISCUSSION, ANY OBJECTIONS OR RESERVATIONS? NOTING NO OBJECTION OR RESERVATIONS, RESOLUTION 26-14 HAS BEEN ADOPTED. MOVING TOP OF PAGE 25. THERE IS NO ITEMS FOR THE COMMITTEE ON THE WHOLE OR EXECUTIVE SESSION. ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? COUNCILMEMBER WEYER FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMEMBER TULBA. >>Councilmember Weyer: THANK YOU CHAIR. I WANTED TO IT TAKE A MOMENT IT REMEMBER RENEE GOOD AND SEND HEARTS OUT TO THEIR FAMILIES. IN THIS TIME. THANK YOU CHAIR. >>Chair Waters: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER TULBA. >>Councilmember Tulba: WANT TO WISH JOSH FROM MY OFFICE BIRTHDAY. SEE HIM IN THE HULL WAY DOESN'T E'O GIVE HIM A BIG HUG HE DOESN'T LIKE THAT. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. IN THE HALE WAY. >>Chair Waters: ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS MEMBERS? SEEING NONE. VICE CHAIR TUPOLA. MOTION TO ADJOURN. >>Councilmember Tupola: I MOVE THAT MEETING STAND A URN J.D. UNTIL WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 0 A.M. >>Councilmember Kia'aina: SECOND? MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY OBJECTIONS? NOTING NONE. COUNCIL STANDS ADJOURNED UNTIL WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY IT 18, 2026, AT 10:00 A.M. THANK YOU MEMBERS. >>(ADJOURNED). ♪