Councilor Benton, you can go ahead and start. We are live. Okay. Thanks everyone for joining us. This is a study session for the Aviation Department recovery efforts under the CARES Act. And I'm chairing the meeting at the request of President Davis, because this is a budgetary matter and He asked me to do it as chair of the committee of the hall. So we have several of the counselors present, not all of us, and I won't go into who's here, but hopefully that can be seen on TV. It's myself, um, cancer Gibson, cancer, Besson, cancer, Borrego, counselor, Sainte, counselor Jones. And then we have folks from the administration as well to present. So, And as I was just explaining, I'm somewhat challenged in terms of technology here working on off of my iPad today. So hopefully we can make this work, but I do have the participants here and I can see raised hands. So let's go ahead and aside from those counselors, let's hear from everyone else from the council staff and administration who was in on the call. Please just, Go ahead, let's start with the budget conference room. Good afternoon, counselors and staff members. I'm Lawrence Rayl, I'm the Chief Operations Officer for the city. Along with me is Nika Allen, the Director of the Aviation Department and she has some folks that she will introduce as she makes her presentation. We also have Warren Adams who is a consultant and has been a consultant for the city number of years and has a really robust experience in the aviation industry. We've been using Warren for the city for more years than he cares to count and has done an awesome job for us throughout the time that I was here before and even now. Nonetheless, he also has helped the staff, Nika and Josh, her financial folks, on setting up this proposal and giving you some insights. So from an industry perspective, Warren's got a lot of the credentials that we need as it relates to just putting this together. And so I want to just start the conversation by just saying thank you, this is unusual for us. We haven't done study sessions in some time. I think it's a good model for, especially for what we're experiencing in our world today with COVID-19 really has has obviously affected all aspects of our lives. And the airport is certainly been impacted significantly. And as a result of that issue, we've had to make some dramatic decisions about airport operations, et cetera. And I think that I would say to you that although Nika is in charge of the facility along with her staff, There is just a lot to be said for the people that work out there every day. And I always tell counselors, the airport's a lot like a small city. You have a lot of folks that work there that are city employees, but there are a lot of contractors, a lot of contractual relationships, starting with the airlines, your rental car companies, your concessionaires, and then the various other folks that have an interest in the aviation industry that use the city's asset, in this case the airport, a way to make a living but also to provide vital services to keep us basically in a good position as a regional airport, New Mexico's airport, and making sure that economic development occurs in a way that's meaningful for all of us and the state of New Mexico and obviously certain parts of Colorado and eastern Arizona and western Texas. All I have to tell you is that Nika has a presentation that will, I think, give you some insight in terms of COVID-19 and the response with the CARES Act funding. And I'll turn it over to her and she can introduce her staff and then open it up for questions after her presentation. Thank you, Lawrence. Counselors, thank you for having me today. Thank you for having us. I have a few people I want to introduce you to. Lauren, thank you for introducing our consultant, Lauren J. Adams. Again, he's been with the city for a number of years, helping with the finance side of the airport. I have my two new deputy directors today that I'm not sure any of you have met. I have Steven Petty, who is running our air side team, and Richard McCurley, who is running our land side team. Do you guys wanna? say anything that they came from both airports across the country. Richard, do you wanna start? Hi, pleasure to meet y'all. My name's Richard McCurley. I've been here since January, so a little over four months. Really have enjoyed the opportunity to be here in Albuquerque and working with NECA and the city itself. I come from about 30 years of aviation experience. I spent right about 29 years in the Houston airport system. I left there as the interim general manager of Hobby Airport. I went to Rhode Island for approximately one year as the chief of staff working with the airport system up in Rhode Island. Appreciate the opportunity to be here in Albuquerque. Thank you so much. Thank you, Richard. Steve? Yes, thank you. Nice to meet you all. And once again, I came with Richard in January. Over 30 years of experience, 25 years with Cincinnati International Airport. in Northern Kentucky and then 15 years in Louisville as a chief operating officer. And then Nika brought me to New Mexico and loving it here and loving working with the team and love Albuquerque. It's a beautiful area and we have a beautiful airport. And then COVID hit, so here we are. So it was a pleasure to meet you all via camera and hopefully in person one day. And with that, I'll turn it back over to Nika for her presentation, but thank you for the opportunity and looking forward to working with you all. Thank you. I want to point out two other people we have in the room. Our fiscal manager, Joshua Castellano Gonzalez, who you guys are all probably familiar with. You've worked with him on budget for many years now. And our city attorney assigned to aviation, Peter Perotti. And so they are all here to help answer any additional questions that you may have. I'm going to start by sharing my screen now, Julian, if that's okay. uh so unless you want to share yours i haven't pulled up i can share here okay great why don't you do that then thank you okay um i did have the fortune of speaking with some of you last week so some of this information does carry over but we'll start with a little bit of background information. We've put together a Recovery and CARES Act spending plan, and I wanted to try to give the council a holistic picture of what we are working on at the airport. We're not just working on how we're spending the cash itself, but how we're fully helping to recover the airport in the situation that we're in. Next slide. Thank you. So just a couple of reminder slides here give you some information about our traffic landscape in Albuquerque. Last year, 2019 was a great year for us. We had about 5.4 million passengers traveling through the sunport. That almost was a record and we'll get a little more into that, but we were doing quite well and I think this year we would have beat it had this not happened. We are served by eight major carriers who you're familiar with and then we also have two smaller regional airlines, Boutique and Advanced Air. And those are smaller ones that go to like Roswell and small areas of our state. We have nonstop service to more than 20 cities, or we had, and we have two cargo airlines, FedEx and UPS. Next slide. Our revenues Just a reminder, the Sunport is an enterprise fund of the city of Albuquerque. So all of the money that we spend on the airport is made by the airport. And we have two major sources that those revenues come from, both airline and then non-airline. And so non-airline may consist of things such as our concession programs, rental cars, the parking operation that we have, all the rental buildings that we have, and then airlines are directly from passengers, the cargo airlines and the airlines themselves. Next slide. So starting to get into COVID-19, this had a huge national impact as you all know, and really dramatic impact on global passenger traffic. The TSA screenings in April were down 94 to 96%, Luckily, just in the last week or so, we're starting to see an uptick again. So I'm very happy to see that. I think people are starting to get a little bit more comfortable traveling again. But the impact nationally has also really disrupted our operational and financial performance at the Sunport. Just to give you a little bit of perspective, when things like this happen in the aviation industry, it can take years to actually recover financially and through passenger traffic. And so one of the largest impacts of the aviation industry, one of the most historic national events, of course, was 9-11. And so when 9-11 happened, it took our airport three years to recover that in passenger traffic. In 2008, we had the financial crisis, And technically we still have not recovered from that. This year would have been our first year recovering from the financial crisis. Next slide. So we have done some estimates and done a lot of modeling since the day that this started so that we could get a good sense of how much money we would actually be losing. And so we are projecting a decrease this fiscal year, which is 2020, of 29%, and this is from 2019, we're projecting a 38% decrease next year, 2021 fiscal year, and actually all the way out until 2022, where we're anticipating a 20% decrease in emplainments, which is passengers leaving from New Mexico. And so as you can see, this is not just what's happening right now, but this is years to come that we're gonna see impacts of this. And so if you look at the graph on the right, you can see the blue line was the actual that we were trending at. We make our business plans, of course, off of our actuals, but so we had a line that extended similarly, which was our green line. And then the red line is the COVID-19 impact. And you can see we essentially went in March, April, and May. We're essentially at zero. May, finally, we're starting to tick up. And our estimates are that we will be looking better in July. And that's what we're currently estimating. We estimate that if our numbers are correct and if our modeling was correct, that our loss in revenue due to the decrease activity is gonna be $31 million within the next two years. Luckily, we did receive $19.7 million in CARES Act grant funds, and we've developed a spending plan that I'm going to share with you today to help mitigate the decline in revenue, and we will show you where that money fits in. And as you can see, 19.7 million is not the whole amount. We still need more money and we will need to make up more money, but that will cover about two thirds of our projected losses. Next slide, please. So this is kind of our holistic recovery plan that I was talking about. And we started all the way on that left-hand side talking about immediately reducing our expenses on our O&M. So we immediately, day one when this started, we cut our operational budgets by 10% to make sure that we would start to be able to control our costs coming into this. Next phase is delaying non-essential capital projects, so we'll talk more about that. Our CARES Act spending plan. We had tenant relief programs that we developed to try to support all of the tenants at the airport. Done a lot of good work on tenant and passenger communication because of course this was a very trying time for many people and we were sometimes the voice of our airport community. We've really heightened our cleaning and sterilization procedures. We have really taken advantage of this time as well to perform preventative and routine maintenance. So we've been happy to have some extra time to do that. And then we'll talk a little bit at the end about some additional revenue streams that we see possible. Next slide, please. So as I mentioned, one of the first things that we did was we automatically reduced our O&M expenses and we implemented 10% cuts across the board for both FY20, the remainder of the year, and FY21. We've also limited our new hires to only essential personnel and we intend to use the CARES Act grant money to avoid staff furloughs and layoffs. So we're very pleased that this funding will help us to avoid that. We also, of course, this is a very active situation, we'll say. It does change day to day. We don't know how many passengers we're gonna have. for sure more than a couple days in advance. So the situation is definitely changing and we will continue to monitor our expenses and what our incoming revenues are and make adjustments over the next couple of years. So also delaying some of our non-essential projects. We have really looked at our CIP program, our capital improvement plan, and identified a couple of projects that we think we can delay. Doesn't mean that we're not going to do them, but I think we can add in an extra year or two before we actually start those projects so that we don't have a big costs waiting ahead for us. So a couple of those examples are our federal inspection station, that's for international flights. We still do have a functioning station, so we'll be able to leverage that a little bit longer. Some new hangar development that we were thinking about. And the project that we did to improve the terminal on the front half, on the public side of the terminal, we did need to do that and do need to do that on the back side of the terminal, a lot of that HVAC work, but we think we can postpone that a little bit longer. Next slide. So a little bit about the CARES Act's grant for airports, and I wanted to spend some time on this slide because it is different than some of the other monies that you all as council members are going to be dealing with and helping to deploy throughout the city. And so the CARES Act was signed into law on March 27, 2020. Big part of the first CARES Act included $10 billion in funds for US airports. So we're very pleased to see that. And we specifically were awarded, as I mentioned, $19.7 million. These are issued the exact same way as all other airport grants are that you all help us to bring into the airport every year. They are very similar to an AIP grant. where we actually pay for something upfront and we get reimbursed. The grant is not provided as a lump sum, so you will not be seeing a new $19.7 million in our airport bank account, which is fine, but we do have a lot of expenses and we'll have all the backup documentation to ask for approval and reimbursement from the FAA. These funds may be spent on any lawful airport expense incurred on or after January 20th. So does backdate it a little bit. So as soon as you all approve for us to get this grant funding, we will have a lot of expenses to already send their way between now and January that we have been tracking. And another good thing is that we actually have four years to spend the funds. So when you see the resolution, which was introduced on Monday, and we hope you all will approve it the 1st of June, we are asking for the authority to expend these over the course of the time that the FAA has allotted us to expend the funds. So they are giving us four years to spend the funds. We anticipate spending them all by the end of 2021 with the decline in revenue that we talked about earlier. But we are asking for the authority to charge to this grant account for the next four years. And one caveat of the funding that's a very important one to mention is that we are required to employ through the end of the year, December 31st, at least 90% of the individuals at the Sunport. And so, of course, we want to do that and we intend to do that. So we're actually happy to see that in there. Next slide, please. So here's a little bit about our spending plan, because I'm sure you all want to know how we intend to spend it. And so we have a few high-level cost centers that we are moving this, allocating the money to right away. So first, we want to fund cost centers that make money off of things that happen in Albuquerque, so those the public area costs we will call them. And so those would be things like our parking garage. No one's parking right now because no one's flying right now, therefore we don't have enough money to keep that operation running. So we would take the CARES Act fund and put it into that area first. Second, we would fund our terminal and our airfield O&M expenses. And that is our cost that the airlines do help us to pay for. But we don't want to dramatically increase the cost that they have to pay to us because that will decrease the number of flights that they want to bring to New Mexico. So we want to make sure to try to even out that cost and not give them a huge increase. Third, we want to fund our rental car shuttle bus O&M expenses because people are not renting cars. We're not getting money in those areas either. So we need to fill up those areas and make sure we can pay our shuttle bus provider. And so those are kind of our three major areas of O and M. We do also have some concerns that tenants at the airport may go bankrupt in this time or default on some of their leases. And so in the case of that happening, we really want to make sure that we have a reserve to also fill whatever that would have been and what that money provided to the sunport. And so we want to have a bit of a reserve O&M expense line. And then another good thing about the CARES Act funding is that we're allowed to put this money towards our debt service. And luckily, the airport is in a very strong financial position, and we don't have much debt left. And I'll show you on the next slide, we actually will be able to close to pay it off with the CARES Act funding and in the next few years. So we're happy about that. And so as you can see from our framework here, this had to go only to O&M. We had to assure the FAA that all of the money was gonna be reserved for O&M expenses. And so we did assure them of that. And so you can see that in these various cost centers. Next slide, please. So here's our spending plan with some dollars attached so you can make dollars and cents of what I'm saying. And so you can see These actual dollar amounts have been pulled directly from what our estimated losses are and or a percentage of what we want to make up. So for the public area, we're looking at supplementing that with $2.2 million this year and 4.6 next year. And also, of course, it looks like why is the 2020 line shorter? It's essentially because that's half a year because you only have from January 2020 through the end of our fiscal year, which ends the end of June, January to June. So that's what you're seeing on the FY 2020 CARES Act grant allocation side. On 2021 side, you're looking at a full year of costs, which is why some of those are greater on that side. So we anticipate in those public areas $2.2 million this year, $4.6 million next year. Terminal and airfield to help balance out that rate for the airlines, we allocated $1.8 million there and $3.1 million next year. The shuttle bus, we needed $0.9 million this year and we will need $1.9 next year. Reserve, we're putting $1.2. Debt service, This year, we will be able to pay the entirety of the debt service payment for the year, which is 1.9 million. Next year, it would not be fully covered by CARES unless we can take some of that O&M expense reserve and move that over if we don't have companies that default this year. So the total of that, as you can see, would be an $8 million expense this year and a $11.7 million expense next year for a total of $19.7 million, which would expend all of our allocated CARES Act funds. Next slide, please. I want to talk a little bit about our heightened cleaning and sterilization procedures. Of course, we want everyone that's traveling through the sunport to feel and to be safe and clean and so currently we've implemented enhanced cleaning and sanitation procedures we're really focusing on those high touch point areas handrails elevator buttons water fountains seating disinfecting those all throughout the day we have significantly increased the cleaning of our restrooms ensuring our hand sanitizer stations are full and the TSA has also done some things to decrease the amount of time that you actually have to spend with a to a TSA officer. And so they're asking people to keep things in their bags, and they're actually allowing people to bring hand sanitizer on the plane as well. We're also adding a lot of new procedures as well. We are looking at a very exciting new technology that would help us to disinfect the terminal nightly, and we're looking at working with a local company that's doing some very cool stuff in this space. So hopefully we'll have some news to share with you on that in the next few weeks. We're also currently installing plexiglass dividers at any of those high touch point areas between passengers and employees. We're putting those six foot markings on the floors in any queuing areas. We have reduced the seating and increased the spacing in our hold rooms and concession areas. And all Sunport employees are required to wear masks at work, and they are getting their temperatures taken at the beginning of the shift. Also, the governor, as you all know, is now asking everyone to wear a mask. So we do have signs asking that everyone wear a mask in the airport as well. So some of these funds, some of these costs here, their own O&M costs and so luckily the CARES Act grant will help us to find all of these new things that we need to be doing. Next slide. So of course no one wanted to be lazy during this time and there was a lot of work to be done and so while we have had so few passengers we have been getting a ton of stuff done at the airport. Please feel free to come visit us. I think the airport looks beautiful right now. And some of these typical maintenance projects that we're going to talk about they really can be quite disturbing to passengers and I'd like to try to minimize that on a normal day when we have 15,000 passengers traveling through the airports I really like to minimize the amount of I call it, you know disruptive some port operations work that we're doing and so I having the arm planements down 90-95%, we have really taken this as an opportunity to look through the airport and make it as perfect as humanly possible. So we've been excited to do a lot of heavy cleaning, jet bridges, preventative maintenance, redoing some of our paintings and our marking signs, replacing some flooring in the terminal if there was any damages on the carpet, cleaning a lot, cleaning HVAC vents. getting some of those tables and chairs, our historic tables and chairs replaced, and that power washing the parking garage, which of course you can probably imagine is hard to do with a lot full of cars. So having the downtime, we've really been able to take advantage of that and I'm very happy to say all that we've done during this time. Next slide, please. So I wanna talk a little bit about our cash flow relief programs that we offered to our tenants. One of the first things that happened to us when COVID-19 happened is everything was shutting down. And so all of our tenants are getting their money from all the passenger traffic that happens at the airport. And so they really needed our help and backing to make sure that they had cash flow and that they could accommodate what this new landscape looked like at the airport. So we did quite a few. Here's a good sampling of our largest concessions and tenants. So we have the airlines, our food and beverage concessions, our retail concessions, rental car companies, and then some of our other tenants. And so you can see across the board, we allow them the flexibility to modify their hours or close locations, which was important because that helped them lower their O&M expenses, which we also did, as I mentioned. We also gave them a three month rent deferral. So we are allowing them to basically not immediately pay their rent right now through the end of the fiscal year and start paying us back in August for the months that were deferred so that they could have cash flow in their hardest time. And there's a few different time periods in which they have the time to repay between four and six months, as you can see. We're also not charging any interest on that. So it's essentially giving them an extra benefit from not charging them interest, which we definitely could do. And here are some of the estimated dollar amounts for each of those. And the total program value we feel is about $8 million. And then our own revenue loss, which is on top of that, $5.8 million we would expect to get the 8 million back the 5.8 we would not expect to get back and that 5.8 is part of the 31 million that I told you about earlier for our total decline next slide please so we have been actively communicating with both our passengers and tenants in COVID-19 started. For the airport, we were kind of the authority. Of course, they listened to the mayor's press conferences and anything that you all had to say and the governor. But as our own little local authority, we were able to be a good point of contact for them and how they should be dealing with all of these circumstances that were changing rapidly. So immediately, we started daily operations meetings with all of our tenants, talking to them, reassuring them, telling them as many updates as we could, talking to them about our passenger count. And then we had separate meetings with each of the various tenant groups and program coordination calls as we were rolling out our relief programs with them. And then we even went down to those individual one-on-one follow-up meetings because we really wanted to make sure that everyone felt like they were being communicated with and really knew that we had their backs and that we were here to support them. So we are very happy to be able to do that for our tenants. Passenger wise, we've been communicating with people through our PA system, through signage, We have had a Department of Public Health table for people coming back into New Mexico to give them information about COVID-19, resources for them, and everyone has been getting a flyer so that they know what signs and symptoms are and where to get help if they need it. We've also done a few press events and sent out communications, and we continue to update people on our social media and our website. Next slide, please. This is my last slide for you all today. I wanna talk a little bit, I know that the situation sounds a little dire after everything that I've said today, but I wanna assure you that myself and my team are gonna do everything in our power to make up that difference in lost revenue. And we're exploring a lot of really great opportunities. There are other funding opportunities for us. And so we, I'm sure we'll come back to you requesting that you help us accept another grant in the near future. Some of those are examples are called bail grants for low emission programs. ZEV, that's another one for kind of sustainability projects and really maximizing those FAA AIP grants, which you guys already know as counselors, you have helped us to accept these grants in the past and we very much appreciate that. And so The FAA, it does have various buckets of money and are able to help us maximize the AIP program this year and over the next couple years to help us fill in some of those revenue gaps that they know that we're dealing with. Also, we're looking for new revenue opportunities. So we're looking for tenants for all of our vacant land, want to get some of our land leased out. We're looking at expanding our cargo because cargo luckily has been doing better than some of our other partners during this time and some small solicitations like a DAS which is kind of like a multi-tenant Wi-Fi system that we can charge people for. So looking at some very creative new revenue opportunities for us and I'm pretty confident that we will be able to make up the money that is lost. I think it will be a different conversation if we still have a negative 90% traffic you know, in a year from now, then I'll be coming back and having a different conversation with you all. But if, um, the traffic does lean towards our modeling, um, then I'm confident we'll be able to make that up. And, uh, with that, that's my presentation for today. Uh, happy to take and answer any questions myself and my team will answer those. Thank you, director Allen. And, um, Let's I think we've had a couple other counselors join us. Council President Davis and counselor Pena have joined us. Um, counselors, do you have questions for director Allen? I see a council president Davis. Uh, Thank you, Councilor Benton. I appreciate you getting things started here. As always, somebody always gets the IT hiccup and today was my turn. So thanks for getting us started. Nika, thanks so much for this. Director Allen, this is great. I know you all put a lot of time into this. I just wanted to clarify through your slides really quickly. So, you know, short term, I think we've all been prioritizing any strategy that keeps all of our city employees on on the payroll and working and I know everybody's doing a little more in different jobs than they used to. Looking at your slides, if we allocate the 19 million plus or minus over FY20 and 21, could you keep your entire workforce at that point? It looked like it to me, but I wanna be sure like, or would you need supplemental appropriations or would this basically keep the aviation sector whole for us or aviation department whole for a second? Mr. President, members of the committee, Yes, we would be able to maintain all of our staff at least for the next two years. That's great. Thanks. Councilor Borrego. Oh, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Nika, I was wondering, and it was a great presentation. I know you guys are doing a really good job and I appreciate and applaud your efforts for, you know, jumping in and creating a relief strategy right away. I wonder the tenants that you have that basically, I guess were closed during those months, is it possible to not charge them even in August and I mean, not to collect for those months? Is that something that we could do? Members of the committee. That is something that we could consider. I think we at this time are trying to balance how to best be supportive of our tenants and also make sure that our city employees can still continue to get paid and that we still have enough money to fund the things that we need to. I think, as I mentioned, this is a little bit of a day by day situation. And I think if we are doing better than we could consider looking at extending the deferral program for our tenants as well. Thank you. I would really like to hear back once you do an analysis on that. Okay. Thank you. Uh, council vice president Gibson. Thank you. Uh, I have a question about, uh, this graph that we see on I think it's slide five, the employment passenger and financial impacts. This is estimated impact on in-planed passengers. Well, I won't make a statement, I'll just ask the question. Does this contemplate a second COVID wave in the fall or coming winter, Director? Vice President, So, Councilor Gibson, Councilors, this does not right now include a major second wave. So that is another conversation we would certainly have to adjust our modeling if there was another full shutdown and we would need to adjust these figures. Okay, all right, thank you. That's an important question, Councilor Gibson. Obviously it looks to me as though we're on a pretty good track right now under the current circumstances, but it would make sense to have that alternative scenario and hopefully we don't have to use it, but to be planning for that. Councilor Jones. Thank you, Councilor. Nika, I understand, or it's my understanding of the original grant that it was a requirement that the airport keep all of their current employees working. and being paid at the airport. Is that true? And if it is, I'm sure you've put that in your budget. And what does that affect have? If a year from now, we haven't met all of that, does this affect our current grant? Do we have to get money back? Do we get another grant? How does that affect us financially? Thank you, Councilor Jones, members of the committee. Part of the CARES Act grant does require that we keep 90% of our employees through the end of this calendar year, December 31st, 2020. And all of our modeling does have all of our employees being paid through then. We also do have some reserve funds that we have set aside and we're being very conservative with other costs to make sure that we can continue to extend out the time that we can pay our employees for much longer than that. Thank you. Um, Madam director of a question or two. Um, one is, uh, on the Z EV grants is that are we going to be looking at, um, at that for the, uh, the rental fleet buses. Is that the idea to go to electric vehicles there? Mr. Chair, Councillor Benton, members of the committee, the ZEV grant, yes, that is looking at the rental car shuttle buses and we are actively applying for that funding. Okay, great. The grant is due in mid July. All right. And then on the increased cleaning and so forth, we're just doing that with the existing staff, correct? Yes, just existing staff. We have been able to, because of the significant decrease in our passenger count, we've been able to kind of cordon off some areas that aren't being used right now. We've decreased the number of bathrooms that are available so that we can allocate additional time and resources to the areas that we need. Thank you. Other counselors, any other questions? or comments. I think we're very fortunate to have received this funding. You know, we have to, we have to hand it to the, to the Congress and for recognizing the importance of transportation and our, our regional transportation entities also really being helped out and, and, you know, hopefully we'll be healthier coming out of this. no pun intended, healthier from our operational standpoint and fiscally for the airport in the end. And I shared the concerns brought up by Councilor Borrego about our, well, primarily about our local airport tenants. I know that the airlines are gonna get a pretty, they're taking a big hit, but they're also getting a pretty good boost from the federal government as well. So, but with regard to some of those local vendors who are, you know, in better times, they're doing well, they have restaurants out in the community and so forth, but in this situation, they're gonna be struggling too. So without making any commitments, I just wanted to say that I share that concern of Councillor Borrego's. Other counselors? I'm looking, I'm trying to follow my raised hand and participant chart without losing my whole page. Um, excuse me, councilor Benton. Yeah, please. Yeah. You don't mind on the agenda. There is an approval of minutes from your previous study session and those are actually on the other documents in your, in the counselor's iPads. But if you don't mind just taking approval of those, that'd be great. I'll do that. multitasking and one iPad screen. So I'll move approval of the previous minutes from the committee of the whole and to Councillor Davis giving me a second there. So all those in favor, we'll do a roll call vote of councilors present. I will vote in favor. I'm not going to do this in order, but of those present, Councillor Davis. Yes. Councillor Borrego. Yes. Councillor Pena. Yes. Councillor Jones. Yes. Councillor Bassan. Yes. Councillor Gibson. Yes. Councillor Saina. Yes. And did I get everybody? I think so. I get council Borrego. Yeah. Okay. So that passes unanimously. Anything else? Uh, help me out there, Julian. I'm not looking at the agenda. Uh, I think that was it. Uh, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. All right. Well, this is informative as the first time we've done a study session on zoom. And, uh, when we get back to doing study sessions in, in the committee room, I'm just gonna put it out there. Maybe we need to have some sort of zoom component and more people will be able to see what we're talking about. Cause sometimes they're pretty, pretty weighty matters that we discuss in the study session. So thanks everyone for your participation. Thank you, Madam director and staff. Very informative and we appreciate the information and the dialogue. Thank you, Mr. Chairman for pinch hitting my apologies, but you did great. I'm sorry for that. Thanks. No problem. I'll still try to figure out my own technology issues and we'll see on the next Zoom. Thanks everyone and thanks to the general public for listening in. Take care. Thanks. Thank you.