>>COUN. BENTON: GOOD EVENING. THE 12th MEETING OF THE 25th COUNCIL WILL COME TO ORDER. COUNCILOR PEÑA IS RUNNING LATE AND EXPECTED TO BE HERE. ALL OTHER COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT VIA ZOOM. WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN ENGLISH LED BY COUNCILOR LEWIS. AND IN SPANISH BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. LEWIS: JOIN IN THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>COUN. BASSAN: [ RECITING THE PLEDGE IN SPANISH ]. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. AS WAS NOTED IN A PRESS CONFERENCE FROM OUR OFFICE, POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND NOTED ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA THIS MOOTING IS BEING HELD VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CITY STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA CAN VIEW THIS THROUGH GOVTV, COMCAST, ASK ZOOM. THESE CAN BE ACCESSED THROUGH SMART PHONES, TABLETS AND COMPUTERS. THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED AND YOU MAY INABLE THE CLOSED CAPTION SERVICES AT THIS TIME. FOR THOSE WATCHING ON THE LIVE STREAM, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. THE RECORDING OF THIS AND PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE AT THE COUNCIL WEBSITE. AND COUNCIL STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ASSISTANCE, CALL 768-3100 FOR ASSISTANCE DURING BUSINESS HOURS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 8 A.M. THROUGH 5 P.M. MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE PRESENTATION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION REGARDING HOMELESSNESS AND ENCAMPMENTS. WE GO TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND CONFERENCE ROOMS TO INTRODUCE THEM. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNSEL CAN -- COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. TODAY, PER YOUR REQUEST, WE HAVE SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE ASSEMBLED IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM TO DO SEVERAL THINGS. ONE IS TO PRESENT INFORMATION RELATED TO WHERE WE ARE ON THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS AND ENCAMPMENTS IN PARTICULAR. ALSO TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS THAT MEMBERS OF THE -- PUBLIC HAVE SENT TO YOU OR TO US RELATED TO INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE CITY CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE AFFECTING ALL ASPECTS OF THE COMMUNITY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR FIRST SPEAKER WHO IS GOING TO BE FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. MS. PEARSON AND HER STAFF WILL GO OVER THEIR PORTION OF THE PROGRAM RELATE TODAY HOMELESSNESS AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CAROL. >> THANK YOU, LAWRENCE, THANK YOU COUNCILORS. WE HAVE FOUR TOPICS WE'LL COVER TONIGHT THAT YOU HAVE ASKED ABOUT AVAILABLE BEDS. THE WEST SIDE EMERGENCY CENTER, COUNCILOR GROUT SUBMITTED SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WE'LL INCLUDE ABOUT THE GATEWAY AT THE GIBSON HEALTH HUB AND SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. WHENEVER FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SPEAKS ABOUT HOMELESSNESS WE REALLY MUST DO IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE FRAMEWORK THAT INCLUDES MANY COMPONENTS. INCLUDING ENTRY, PREVENTION, HOUSING. TONIGHT I FOCUS ON THE THREE CIRCLED ONES. THE EMERGENCY SHELTER AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO OUR FRAMEWORK AND HOW WE MITIGATE IMPACT AND OUTREACH SERVICES. FIRST, HOW MANY EMERGENCY BEDS DO WE HAVE? I KNOW COUNCIL ASKED THAT QUESTION. THIS IS THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. SO, WE HAVE NINE EMERGENCY SITES RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE LISTED. I WILL NOTE WE'VE GOT FAMILY PROMISE, IT'S GRAY AND LISTED. MORE OF A PROGRAM WHERE FAMILIES, I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT, THAT'S REALLY NOT CONSIDERED EMERGENCY SHELTER. I KNOW WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. I KNOW WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT DOES THIS INCLUDE FAITH-BASED EMERGENCY OVERNIGHT SHELTERS. YES, IT DOES. WE'VE GOT JOY JUNCTION ON THERE AND BROTHERS OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD. STAFF DID A CALL ON JUNE 20th TO FIND OUT THAT DAY HOW MANY OPEN BEDS THERE WERE AVAILABLE. AND THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 369 BEDS AVAILABLE ACROSS THE SYSTEM. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN ASKED MANY TIMES WHY CAN'T THE CITY JUST TAKE HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS OR CAMPERS TO ONE OF THE SHELTERS. AND THE CITY CAN'T LEGALLY FORCE ANYONE TO GO TO A SHELTER, EVEN IF WE COULD WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BEDS TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE UNHOUNSED IN THE COMMUNITY WHETHER THAT BE AT CORONADO OR ANY PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE. WANT TO DIVE IN A LITTLE BIT ON OUR WEBSITE EMERGENCY HOUSING CENTER. OUT THERE, WE DO THIS, THIS IS A FACILITY THAT IS THE OLD BERNALILLO COUNTY JAIL LOCATED 20 MILES OUTSIDE OF TOWN. NEAR THE DOUBLE EAGLE AIRPORT. AND WE OFFER A VARIETY OF SERVICES. WE DO THAT THROUGH OUR PARTNERS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A CONTRACT, SOCIAL SERVICE CONTRACT WITH HEADING HOME WHICH IS THE BOOT TZ ON THE GROUND TO PROVIDE SERVICES. WE HAVE OUR SERVICES LISTED UP THERE AT THE TOP. EVERYTHING FROM HOUSING, CASE MANAGEMENT. WE HAVE COMPUTERS TO HELP PEOPLE WITH RESUME BUILDING. WE'RE VERY PROUD, AND I KNOW YOU HEARD ME SAY THIS MANY TIMES, THE CITY IS PROUD ABOUT THE SAFETY NETWORK WE'VE MAINTAINED DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND TO THIS DAY WE HAVE ISOLATION FOR MEN AND WOMEN AND AS OF YESTERDAY WE HAD ROUGHLY 12 MEN AND 12 WOMEN ISOLATED AT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. OUR PLAN IS TO KEEP THOSE OPEN TO CONTINUE NAVIGATING COVID. I'LL SAY TO CONTINUE TO SCREEN PEOPLE AS THEY ARRIVE ON THE BUS. WE CONTINUE TO DO ON-SITE COVID TESTING. WE ALSO EARLY ON IN THIS ADMINISTRATION WE DID SOME REMODELING TO HAVE A CLINIC BASED AT THE WEST. AND IT REALLY HELPED WITH HELPING ADDRESS SOME ANXIETY THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE IN THE EVENINGS. AND WE DO THAT THROUGH PARTNERSHIP WITH UNM, HEALTH CARE FOR THE HOMELESS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE. ALWAYS GRATEFUL FOR THE FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY SUPPORT. THEY'RE OPERATING A DONATION ROOM AND HELPING PROVIDE OTHER SERVICES SUCH AS BIBLE STUDY, NARCOTICS ANONYMOUS AND ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAS COME UP, AND WE INCLUDED PICK UP AND DROP OFF SCHEDULE, WE'RE REALLY PROUD IN THIS ADMINISTRATION WE'VE REALLY EXPANDED THE AVAILABLE PICK UP AND DROP OFF. AND THIS IS INCLUDING NOT ONLY HERE IN THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR BUT ALSO IN THE HEIGHTS OR ALONG CENTRAL WITH THE WAREHOUSE BEING OF THE KEY PARTNERS AND FIRST NATIONS. CORONADO PARK FOR THE LAST TWO ADMINISTRATIONS HAS BEEN THE SITE FOR PEOPLE TO GET PICKED UP AND DROPPED OFF TO ACCESS THE BUS THAT THE CITY PROVIDES TO GET OUT TO THE WEST SIDE. ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED, DOES THE WEST SIDE OFFICER MEALS ? YES, WE DO. WE PROVIDE THREE MEALS A DAY. IN FACT, WE HAVE ATERED THAT OVER TIME. NOW WITH MORE PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO COME BACK IN TOWN AND MORE SERVICES OPEN UP, WE ATOR OUR LUNCH COUNT BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T ABLE TO COME IN SO WE HAVE A ROLLING COUNT. THREE MABLE -- MEALS AVAILABLE PER DAY AND SNACKS TOO. WE HAVE CAPACITY FOR 450 PEOPLE. THIS IS NOT DURING COVID TIMES. WE'RE NOT HAVING THE DISTANCES REQUIRED DURING COVID. THIS IS FULL CAPACITY. WE'RE VERY PROUD THAT AS OF MARCH 15th, 2020 WE BECAME A YEAR ROUND FACILITY. BEFORE THAT OUR SHELTER WAS KNOWN AS A WINTER SHELTER BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY OPEN DURING THE COLDEST TIMES OF THE YEAR THAT WAS NOVEMBER TO MARCH. AND OUR DEPARTMENT WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE ADMINISTRATION OPENED THAT YEAR ROUND. INCLUDING WEEKENDS, EVENINGS, TO REALLY HAVE A TRANSFORMATIVE EXPERIENCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. GOOD QUESTION THAT COUNCILOR GROUT ASKED, WHY IS THE FACILITY NOT USED MORE? IT'S A QUESTION QUESTION. IT'S 20 MILES OUTSIDE TOWN, YOU NEED A BUS TO GET THERE. WE PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION IF PEOPLE NEED TO COME BACK IN TOWN FOR AN APPOINTMENT, THAT'S AVAILABLE. WE DO HAVE SOME SERVICES ON-SITE, MANY SERVICES ARE BACK IN TOWN. IT IS AN OLD JAIL. WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO PAINT THE WALLS AND MAKE IT AS FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE. IT IS AN OLD JAIL. SOME PEOPLE CAME FROM THAT SITE TO BEGIN WITH. THEY'RE RETRAUMATIZED. I KNOW PERSONALLY WHEN I SEE SOMEBODY ON THE STREETS I ASKED THEM DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE WEST SIDE, SOMETIMES THEY SAY YES. BUT BECAUSE OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES OR DORM SETTINGS ARE CHOOSING NOT TO GO THERE. THERE'S MANY REASONS WHY THEY ARE NOT USED AS MUCH AS WE HOPE. NEXT SLIDE. PART OF OUR FRAMEWORK IS ALWAYS MITIGATING THE IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED. AND THERE'S TWO WAYS WE REALLY DO THAT. OUTREACH AND MITIGATING IMPACT THROUGH HOMELESS COORDINATING COUNSEL IS TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S WITH UNM AND THE COUNTY HAVING GOOD CONVERSATIONS AND THE HOMELESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE STARTED BY THE MAYOR. WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES THERE, SERVICE PROVIDERS, WHERE WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE STRATEGIES THAT NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED. GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENTS, WE DO HAVE ONE IN PLACE WITH RELATED DOUBLE VILLAGE. WE'RE WORKING ON A SEPARATE ONE AS IT RELATES TO GATEWAY. PUBLIC SAFETY DISTRICT, NOB HILL AND DOWNTOWN AND REVVING UP ENGINES TO IMPLEMENT ONE RELATED TO GIBSON. WE THINK THOSE ARE WAYS WE'RE MITIGATING THE IMPACT OF HOMELESSNESS. ALWAYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUTREACH. REALLY IMPORTANT. WE HAVE AN OUTREACH TEAM WITH FIVE OUTREACH ENCAMPMENT MEMBERS AND ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY HAS DONE SO MUCH TO REALLY ENHANCE OUR RESPONSIVENESS AS A CITY. WE HAVE NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS WE COMMUNICATE WITH AND ALSO CONTRACT WITH THAT ARE LISTED THERE THAT DO REALLY IMPORTANT OUTREACH. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THE HOMELESS COORDINATING COUNCIL WHEN THEY LOOKED AT HIGH IMPACT STRATEGIES TO IMPLEMENT WAS AN OUTREACH COORDINATOR POSITION. TO REALLY WORK WITH ALL OF OUR FOLKS DOING OUTREACH. THAT POSITION HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED, IT IS THROUGH A CONTRACT AND THAT'S BEING DONE THROUGH FIRST NATIONS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE HAD AN ENCAMPMENT POLICY. I WANTED TO PRIORITIZE THIS IS WHAT WE USE IN OUR RESPONSIVENESS OR PRIORITY FOR RESPONSIVENESS. PRIORITY ONE IS FOR IMMEDIATE REMOVAL. THAT'S WHEN SOMEBODY IS IN IMMEDIATE HARM'S WAY. YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE DETAILED THERE. IF YOU'RE A PUBLIC PARK WHERE CHILDREN'S PROGRAMMING OCCURS. I MIGHT CITE WELLS MARK. WE DO CHILDREN'S PROGRAMMING THERE ALL THE TIME. B, RELATES TO THE SAME THING. IF YOU'RE ADJACENT TO A COMMUNITY CENTER, SENIOR CENTER OR DEVELOPMENT CENTER, THAT'S A PRIORITY ONE. THOSE ENCAMPMENTS MUST BE REMOVED. IF SAME IF YOU'RE ON A MEDIAN OR OBSTRUCTING A STREET, SIDE WALK, BUS STOP. WE'RE REALLY WORRIED PEOPLE ARE IN HARM'S WAY OR PUTTING A VEHICLE OR SOMEONE ELSE INTO HARM'S WAY. WE DON'T WANT. BRIDGE OVER ROADWAYS IS PRIORITY ONE. ALSO IF THE POLICE OBSERVED POSSESSION OF NARCOTICS OR OTHER ACTIVITY THAT RELATES TO A FELONY THAT IS A PRIORITY ONE. NOW PRIORITY TWO. AND ALL THIS IS DISTINGUISHED AS WE GET CALLED FOR ENCAMPMENTS. THEY'RE LESSER PRIORITY. UNDERPASS, IF THERE'S MORE THAN FIVE ENCAMP RESIDENTS OR STRUCTURES, AND THIS IS ASSUMING THEY DIDN'T FALL IN THE PRIORITY ONE, HUMAN WASTE OR SIGNIFICANT QUANTITIES OF HYPERDERMING NEEDLES. WE DO TALK ABOUT THAT OUR TEAM POSTS NOTICE. THEY HAVE 72 HOURS AFTER THAT DAY TO REMOVE ENCAMPMENT. I'M REFERRING TO PRIORITY TWO AND THREE. AND WE DO THAT BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO GIVE PEOPLE NOTICE. THEY HAVE POSSESSIONS, THEY HAVE BELONGINGS, AND IMPORTANT PAPERS, THEY HAVE DRIVERS LICENSES. WE DO NEED TO GIVE THEM NOTICE. SO THEIR POSITIONS CAN BE REMOVED. SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE IN THOSE ENCAMPMENTS ON PRIORITY TWO AND THREE AND SOMETIMES NOT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS RELATES TO OUR GIBSON HEALTH HUB. AGAIN, OUR GIBSON HEALTH HUB IS THE ENTIRE ACILITY ALL 572,000 SQUARE FEET ON GIBSON AND SAN MATEO. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE TOP STRIP, STARTING WITH THE TURQUOISE, 17% OF THAT ENTIRE GIBSON HEALTH HUB ARE THE TENANTS. THERE'S SEVEN OF THEM. WHICH INCLUDES THREE CREDITED HOSPITALS. THEY'RE PROVIDING BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, AND MORE. WHEN THERE'S 59% OF OPPORTUNITY SPACE OR MEETING WITH PEOPLE TO BRING THEIR SERVICE TO THIS BECAUSE WE DO SEE THE ENTIRE FACILITY. WE WANT IT TO REMAIN THAT BEACON OF HEALING AND HOPE FOR THE COMMUNITY AS IT HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST YEARS. TO THE FAR RIGHT YOU SEE THE LIME GREEN WHERE WE TALK ABOUT 17% AND 7%. WHEN OUR PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO ARE COMPLETED FOR THE GATEWAY, AND THAT INCLUDES THE GATEWAY WHICH IS OUR OVERNIGHT EMERGENCY SHELTER, ENGAGEMENT CENTER AND 24-7 FIRST RESPONDER DROPOFF AND MEDICAL SOBERING AND MEDICAL RESPITE AND TRAUMA RECOVERY WHICH IS OPERATIONAL TODAY, THAT WILL OCCUPY 24%. AND THAT'S WHERE WE DETAILED THAT ON THIS SLIDE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THERE'S LOTS HAPPENING AT GIBSON FACILITY TODAY. SERVING PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THIS HIGHLIGHTS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING WITH THE GATEWAY CENTER AND WHAT IT ACCOMPANIES. NEXT SLIDE. I DO WANT TO ALSO ADD THAT ON GATEWAY I THINK A QUESTION HAD BEEN ASKED ABOUT WHY FUNDING FOR THE GATEWAY CENTER WAS SUPPOSED TO -- I WANT TO SAY IT'S WHY I STARTED WITH THE FRAMEWORK. OVERNIGHT SHELTER AND THE GATEWAY IS PART OF OUR OVERALL HOMELESS STRATEGY. AND THAT STRATEGY HAS TO INCLUDE MANY OPTIONS, TEMPORARY AND LONG-TERM OPTIONS FOR SHELTER. IT'S NOT THE ONE MAGIC SOLUTION. IT IS ACCOMPANIED BY CRITICAL COMPONENTS WE HAVE IN THE FRAMEWORK. THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE KNOW WHEN THIS DECISION IS MADE THAT WE NEED EMERGENCY SHELTERS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND WE NEED THEM NOT ADJUST 20 MILES OUTSIDE OF TOWN IN AN OLDER JAIL FACILITY. WE NEED THE SPACE. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT THESE SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING, NOT ONLY THE OVERNIGHT SHELTER SPACE, BUT THE FIRST RESPONDER DROP OFF FOR LOW ACUITY PEOPLE WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR APD, AFR, ACS TO GET PEOPLE CONNECTED TO SERVICES. AND WE'RE ALSO VERY EXCITED ABOUT MEDICAL RESPITE. THE STUDY DONE THREE YEARS AGO THAT TALKED ABOUT HOW WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE FOR UNHOUSED PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A HOME TO RECUPERATE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT SERVICE. AND WE'RE ALSO VERY EXCITED ABOUT MEDICAL RESPITE, MEDICAL SOBERING AS WELL. I KNOW THE COUNTY LAST NIGHT AT THE COMMISSION MEETING PASSED SOME OF OUR FUNDING FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY SEE IN OUR COLLABORATION WHAT A DIFFERENCE THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IN OUR COMMUNITY. NOW WE'RE ON THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I WANT TO SAY THAT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IS ONE TOOL THAT WE BELIEVE CAN BE HELPFUL TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS. AND THE MAYOR HAS SUPPORTED FCS ON HAVING ALL THE TOOLS IN OUR TOOL BELTS WE NEED TO HELP UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS. SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE AND IT'S WHY WE HAD DENVER SPEAKER COME ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO AGO TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS HAS BEEN A PROVEN STRATEGY IN DENVER AND BEEN SUCCESSFUL. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT I THINK SOME OF THE KEY TAKEAWAYS ARE. THEY DO NEED A REFERRAL PROCESS FOR ENTRY. IT'S NOT JUST A COME AND GO. THERE'S RULES AND REGULATIONS. THEY'RE MANAGED. THE PICTURES WE SELECTED TO PUT UP, THOSE ARE FROM DENVER. IT SHOWS THE MATCHING TENTS THAT ARE OFTEN USED SO EVERYBODY HAS EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN ASKED, IS CORONADO PARK WHAT WE ENVISION FOR A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE, THE ANSWER IS ABSOLUTELY NOT. IS CORONADO PARK A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE? ABSOLUTELY NOT. CORONADO PARK IS THE OUTCOME OF TWO ADMINISTRATIONS AND OUR EFFORTS TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND CONTINUING TO USE IT AS A PICK UP AND DROP OFF SPOT TO GET FOLKS BACK AND FORTH TO THE WEST SIDE. I KNOW WE'VE ALSO BEEN ASKED WHEN IT RELATES TO CORONADO PARK ABOUT DO WE JUST KEEP MOVING CAMPERS IN AND OUT. WE DO MOVE CAMPERS OUT EVERY TWO WEEKS TO HELP KEEP IT CLEAN AND MINIMIZE ANY PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERN. AND WE DO KNOW PEOPLE ARE COMING BACK TO CORONADO PARK. WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT CORONADO PARK IS NOT A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. THAT'S OUR WORK AS WE USE IT FOR PICK UP AND DROP OFF. WITH THAT, I THINK I'LL HAND IT BACK TO LAWRENCE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, LET ME MOVE TO APD AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY DO AS IT RELATES TO ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS. WE CAN GET THE SLIDES. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO DEPUTY CHIEF JOSH BROWN TO TALK ABOUT THE APD WORK THEY'RE DOING. >>COUN. BENTON: QUICKLY, LAWRENCE, AND EVERYONE WE'RE GOING TO HOLD A QUESTIONS TO THE END. WE'LL KEEP YOU IN THE QUEUE. RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE QUESTIONS AND WE'LL GET IN THE QUEUE. WE'LL HAVE IT AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. I WANT TO COVER A FEW THINGS ON WHAT WE DO AT APD TO FACILITATE PROCESSES. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE GET ASKED, WHY CAN'T APD JUST ARREST PEOPLE THAT ARE CAMPING IN THE PARKS ? ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOK AT IS PEOPLE'S CIVIL RIGHTS. YOU CAN'T ARREST PEOPLE FOR CAMPING IN CITY PARKS. THERE'S MULTIPLE FACTORS THAT DETERMINE WHEN AN ARREST CAN BE MADE. THEY RECEIVE BASIC LITIGATION AND LIBERTY. [ INAUDIBLE ]. ANOTHER THING WE GET ASKED IS WHY CAN'T THE CITY MOVE THE TENT AND SHOPPING CARTS OUT OF THE PARKS. THIS IS THE PROPERTY OF HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IN THE PARKS. [ INAUDIBLE ]. WE'RE PURSUING STORAGE PROGRAM. THIS IS ONE OF THE MAJOR BARRIERS WE HAVE IN THE PAST. WE HAVE A PLACE TO STORE PROPERTY AND PROTECT WHAT THEY HAVE. OTHER QUESTIONS WE GET ASKED IS AREN'T THEY A THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND SHOULD BE TREATED LIKE SERIOUS CRIMES. THE FACT OF THE MATTER YES, SOMETIMES THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE SEE CRIME. WE DO ARREST PEOPLE WHO ARE PUTTING OTHERS IN DANGER. SOME OF THEM ARE COMMITTING VIOLENT FELONIES OR IF YOU'RE SMOKING DRUGS, WHAT WE HAVE IS PRESENCE WITH OFFICERS TO MAKE AN ARREST. FOR THE MOST SERIOUS CRIMES WE MAKE ARRESTS. FELONY WARRANTS. IF THEY'RE TRAFFICKING NARCOTICS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALSO I WANT TO COVER IS I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND DIFFERENT AVENUES WHERE PEOPLE SAY, I CALLED A POLICE OFFICER BUT THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT. THAT'S A STATEMENT THAT I DO NOT FOLLOW. THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING APD CAN DO. WE DON'T JUST SIT BACK AND NOT DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM. THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING APD CAN DO. WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE. THE NEW PROCESS KEEPS OUR OFFICERS LEGALLY BOUND TO WHAT THEIR JOB IS. IF WE GO OUT AND START ARRESTING EVERYBODY, THIS IS PART OF -- YOU CAN'T ARREST FOR THAT. YOU CAN'T ARREST FOR LOW LEVEL CITY CRIMES. ONE OF THE THING WE LOOK AT IS THEY'RE RIGHT. IT SAYS ALL APD WILL -- THE FACT WE CAN'T ENFORCE THIS. WE HAVE TO START A PROCESS. WE'RE MAKING SURE THERE'S COORDINATION ON PROVIDING SERVICES, WHETHER IT BE PARKS, AND [ INAUDIBLE ]. ONCE THAT PROCESS START AND THE OFFICERS GO BACK AND CONTACT AND IF THEY REMUSE TO LEAVE, AND IT'S SOMETHING WHERE THEY HAVE HAD A WHOLE NUMBER OF THINGS HAPPEN, IT CREATES A HAZARD FOR PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN, OFFICERS DO START. WE HAVE TO START AT THE LOWEST LEVEL. IT'S NOT DRAGGING PEOPLE OUT OF THE PARK OR PUBLIC PROPERTY. WE CAN'T DO THAT. IT'S PART OF THE SETTLEMENT. WE ARE LOOKING AT -- HAVE A POLICY WITH THE DOJ THAT ARE ACTUALLY WITH RESPONSE BACK. CLEAR GUIDANCE ON WE HANDLE ENCAMPMENTS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WE WANT TO ENSURE AS CHIEF BROWN DESCRIBES THE ROLE APD HAS AND WHAT THEIR LIMITATIONS ARE, I WANT TODAY HAVE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TALK MORE ABOUT McLENDEN CASE AND THOSE CASES THAT IMPACTED OUR PART OF THIS DISTRICT, OUR CIRCUIT COURT, AND ALSO WHAT GUIDANCE WE'RE GETTING WITH OTHER DECISIONS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MADE IN OTHER COURTS. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KEVIN TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE KNOW THAT DOES AFFECT ALBUQUERQUE AND OUR COMMUNITY. >> SURE. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M WITH THE CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT. I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THE ADMINISTRATION HAS HEARD. SPECIFICALLY AS DEPUTY CHIEF BROWN MENTIONED, WE'RE BOUND BY THE SAME McLENDEN LAWSUIT SINCE 25 YEARS. THE CITY HAS MET THE CONDITION IN 2017. WE NEGOTIATED A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. AND THE CITY PAYING $80,000 AND AGREEING TO NEGOTIATE SPECIAL OPERATING PROCEDURE THAT EMPHASIZED NON-ARRESTABLE INTERVENTION IN POTENTIALLY CASES WHERE THERE'S A BELIEF SOME KIND OF MENTAL DISSTRESS OR A NON-VIOLENT CRIME. ACCORDINGLY, MANY INSTANCES WE'RE DISCUSSING AT CORONADO PARK AND OTHER CITY FACILITIES WOULD FALL IN THE CATEGORY OF CAMPING IN PUBLIC, TRESPASSING AFTER 10 P.M., AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE HOMELESS CRIMES THAT USED TO BE ARRESTED. AT THIS POINT AS PART OF THE SOP, THOSE OFFENDERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE ARRESTED AS A PRIMARY INTERVENTION. THEY ARE -- CITATIONS CAN BE ISSUED. THEY CAN BE ASKED TO MOVE ALONG. THEY'RE ENTITLED TO A LOWER DEGREE OF INTERVENTION AND ALSO AGREED TO TRY AND PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND OTHER TYPES OF SERVICES. ALONG WITH THE COUNTY. TO MR. RAEL'S POINT, THE OTHER LEGAL CASES THAT IMPACT THE CITY AND TREATMENT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS EXTEND TO THE CASE OF MARTIN VERSUS CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WHICH IS THE SAFETY ORDINANCE CASE WHERE THE CITY WAS TRYING TO MAKE OUR MEDIANS SAFER AND LIMIT RIGHTS OF PEOPLE TO STAY IN THE MEDIANS AND WALK INTO THE ROAD WAY AND SOLICIT DONATIONS. I KNOW COUNCILORS WERE PRESENT WHEN THAT WAS INITIALLY PASSED. WE ENDED UP GOING TO DISTRICT COURT AND LOST AT THE 10th SIRBGT AND SPENT. WRNG AND WE FOUND OUR AATTEMPTS AT ARRESTING PEOPLE IN MEDIANS PROVED TO BE EXPENSIVE. THE OTHER MAJOR CASE MANY PEOPLE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS MARTIN V BOISE. THAT IS THE NINTH CIRCUIT CASE. IT RELATES TO THE NUMBER OF BEDS AVAILABLE AND WHETHER YOU CAN ASK PEOPLE TO MOVE OUT OF PUBLIC PARKS. IF THERE ARE NOT SHELTER BEDS AVAILABLE. THAT IS A NINTH CIRCUIT CASE IS NOT BINDING UPON THE CITY. IT'S A DIFFERENT CIRCUIT COURT. HOWEVER YOU CAN ANTICIPATE THAT SHOULD LITIGATION OCCUR BASED ON OUR TREATMENT OF SIMILAR SITUATED INDIVIDUALS IN PUBLIC PARKS, THAT CASE WOULD BE BROUGHT TO THE COURT AND LITIGATED. AT THIS POINT IT'S INSTRUCTED, IT'S NOT BINDING. THE INDICATION OF THE SIMILAR SITE WITH SIMILAR PROBLEM TRYING TO ADDRESS. AND THEY ENDED UP SPENDING A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY TRYING TO LITIGATE THAT. WE'RE TRYING TO ADVISE AS BEST WE CAN THE LEAST EXPENSIVE MEANS CAN BE THE MOST PRODUCTIVE AND RESPECT CIVIL RIGHTS. I WANT TO TOUCH ON DIRECTOR PIERCE'S COMMENT FORCIBLY TRANSPORTING PEOPLE TO THE WEST AND WHY WE CAN'T DO THAT. LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, WHETHER IT'S APD OR ANOTHER CITY DEPARTMENT, IF SOMEONE DOESN'T WANT TO GO WE CAN'T PUT THEM INTO A VEHICLE AND TAKE THEM SOMEWHERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE THERE. THAT WAS A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF THE LEGAL PRINCIPLES WE'VE BEEN ADVISING THE CITY ADMINISTRATION ON HOW THEY CAN ADDRESS THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUES IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK ONE MINOR POINT ON THIS ISSUE FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THE SAME JUDGE THAT OVERSEES THE McLENDEN CASE, OVERSEES THE CASA AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. IT'S REALLY INTERESTING THAT BOTH OF THESE CASES THAT GOVERN HOW WE OPERATE ARE UNDER THE SAME JUDICIAL OVERSIGHT. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, COUNCILORS, I WANTED TO HAVE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE -- IF YOU WILL, AS IT RELATES TO LAND USE ISSUE AND THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE BEEN HAVING AND YOU HAVE BEEN HAVING JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF EDUCATING AND WARNING THE COMMUNITY OF WHAT WE DO HAVE ON THE BOOKS TODAY AS IT RELATES TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN PARTICULAR. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. >> COUNCILORS, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. WE APPRECIATE IT. ONE OF THE MYTHS OUT THERE IS SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WILL BECOME PERMANENT HOMELESS CAMPS. THAT IS FALSE. THAT IS NOT ALLOWED IN ANY WAY BY THE LAW. THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL, THERE'S A LIMITATION OF TWO YEARS WITH A POSSIBLE TWO-YEAR EXTENSION. AND IN ADDITION THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 15 REQUIREMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MET IN ORDER FOR SOMEBODY TO BE ABLE TO SET UP ONE OF THESE TEMPORARY SAFE OUTDOOR SITUATIONS. YOU MUST HAVE PREPATIONS IN PLACE. THEY MUST HAVE SHOWERS, PORTABLE TOILETS AND HAND WASHING STATIONS. THEY MUST HAVE PLUMBING. THERE ARE SETBACKS FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THERE'S SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS BETWEEN THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. THEY NEED TO HAVE WALKABLE SCREENING WALLS. THAT MEANS THEY'RE OUT OF SITE TO PROTECT THE OCCUPANTS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF IT. THOSE HAVE TO BE WALKABLE. THEY MUST BE ACCOMPANIED BY MANAGEMENT PLAN WHICH IS REVIEWED BY FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES OR A SECURITY AGREEMENT WHICH SHOWS THEY HAVE 24-7 SECURITY IN PLACE. THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOCIAL SERVICE AND SUPPORT FACILITIES THERE. THESE ARE NOT SIMPLY PLACES ARE PEOPLE CAN GO AND SET UP CAMP AND LIVE THEIR OWN IN ANY FASHION. THEY'RE NOT PERMANENT. MOST OF THE SITUATION REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION WHICH MEANS THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING. THAT PUBLIC HEARING IN FRONT OF THE HEARING OFFICER AND THAT DECISION CAN BE APPEALED UP TO CITY COUNCIL. THAT MYTH REGARDING SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES BECOMING PERMANENT IS FALSE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, JUST A FEW MORE CLOSING COMMENTS. AGAIN, TRYING TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED BY A LOT OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND OTHERS RELATED TO -- CAN'T THE MAYOR USE AUTHORITY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS OF HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS. THE REAL DECISION IS IT REALLY -- IT TAKES ALL OF US TO DO OUR PART. FROM THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, CITY COUNCIL, TO OUR STATE LEGISLATURE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND EVEN OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM THAT WE'RE BOUND BY MANY OF THEIR DECISIONS. NONETHELESS, THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT'S COMPLEX. WE ALL NEED TO WORK THROUGH. FROM THE VERY CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH ALL OF YOU OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEETINGS. RELATED TO THE COUNCILOR'S LAND USE AUTHORITY. THE COUNCIL DOES DECIDE HOW THE LAND IN OUR CITY IS GOING TO BE UTILIZED. AND WHAT IS PERMITTED AND NOT PERMITTED. IT STARTS WITH ALL OF US WORKING TO DO OUR PART AND WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE COMMUNITY. ALSO, JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER. WE KNOW THESE PROBLEMS ARE REAL AND THAT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE REAL CONCERNED ABOUT ENCAMPMENTS AND HOW WE DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD. AND FROM AN ADMINISTRATION STANDPOINT, WE'RE PREPARED TO LISTEN TO THE WHOLE CONVERSATION TO WORK WITH YOU ALL AND WORK WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND TO FIND REAL SOLUTIONS IN THIS ISSUE. IT'S NOT A SIMPLE LET'S JUST DO THIS AND IT WILL BE DONE. WE KNOW IT'S MUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT. WE KNOW YOU PLAY A BIG ROLE IN THAT. WITH THAT, MR. PRESIDENT, WE WANTED TO GIVE THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY A REAL SENSE THAT THIS IS A COMPLICATE ASKED COMPLEX PROBLEM. WE DO HAVE, IF YOU WILL, COURT DECISIONS THAT MANAGE HOW OUR APD CAN AND CAN'T RESPOND TO CERTAIN SITUATIONS. WE ALSO KNOW THAT OUR LAND USE IS IMPORTANT. ALSO, WE HAVE SOME WORK BEING DONE. WHETHER IT'S THE WEST SIDE EMERGENCY SHELTER OR WHETHER IT'S GETTING THE GATEWAY FACILITY OPENED UP. ALSO LOOKING AT, AS MR. PIERCE SAID, GETTING ANOTHER TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX AS IT RELATES TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. IT HAS TO BE A VERY DYNAMIC APPROACH. AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT. AND WANTING TO WORK WITH YOU ALL AND LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY SO WE CAN TO WHAT WE THINK IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL OF US IN THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. WITH THAT, MR. PRESIDENT. WE'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. I'LL TRY OUR BEST TO ADDRESS THE INDIVIDUALS AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THE QUESTIONS. WE'LL GET STARTED WITH COUNCILOR LEWIS, FOLLOWED BY COUNCILOR BASSAN, AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT. I'LL START WITH THE PRESENTATION BY DIRECTOR PIERCE. DIRECTOR, YOU SAID THERE ARE 369 VACANT BEDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE EVERY NIGHT. OR AT LEAST THE NIGHT YOU CHECKED IN THE MONTH OF JUNE. AND 140 OF THOSE ARE IN JOY JUNCTION, WHICH JOY JUNCTION IS IN THE CITY LIMITS. JUST OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS. IT'S NOT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER WHICH IS THE -- IT MIGHT SOUND LIKE AN OVER SIMPLIFIED QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED WE VERIFY THE 369 VACANT BEDS. AND THEN THE PROCEDURES FOR PRIORITY ONE, TWO, THREE WHEN IT COMES TO ILLEGAL TENT ENCAMPMENTS. PRIORITY ONE IS IMMEDIATE REMOVAL. PRIORITY TWO AND THREE IS 72 HOURS. SAME PROCESS, BUT YOU GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. REALLY, MY QUESTION IS, IF THAT IS OUR POLICY TO TRANSPORT PEOPLE WILLING TO GO, IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE'RE ACTIVELY TRANSPORTING THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO GO TO A SHELTER, WE HAVE THE BEDS FOR THEM, AND IF WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE TO REMOVE ILLEGAL ENCAMPMENTS, THEN WHY DO ILLEGAL ENCAMPMENTS EXIST RIGHT NOW? IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S A MATTER OF RESOURCES. I UNDERSTAND OUR OFFICERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO CITE IF SOMEONE IS REMOVED IN 72 THEY'RE BACK AT THE SAME PLACE THEY CAN CITE THEM. THEY CAN ASK THEM TO MOVE ON. MY QUESTION IS WHY DO THEY CONTINUE TO EXIST? IF THAT IS OUR POLICY. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT SOUNDS LIKE A QUESTION FOR DEPUTY CHIEF, MAYBE. >> THIS IS DEPUTY DIRECTOR, I WANT TO TOUCH ON YOUR JOY JUNCTION POINT. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE CHART, I NOTED THAT TO BE ADMITTED INTO JOY JUNCTION YOU NEED A BACKGROUND CHECK WHICH IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR UNHOUSED POPULATION. IN ADDITION, THE SINGLE ADULT BEDS FILL UP AS THEY INDICATED. AND MANY OF THE REMAINING BEDS ARE RESERVED FOR FAMILIES. WHICH IS NOT A BIG PART OF THE POPULATION. >>COUN. LEWIS: BACK TO MY QUESTION. THERE'S 240 BEDS AVAILABLE EVERY NIGHT AT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRANSPORT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GO TO THAT SHELTER, AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY FOR THE PRIORITY ONE, TWO, THREE OF REMOVING ENCAMPMENTS TO CITE PEOPLE AND OFFICERS TO ASK THEM TO MOVE ON, WHY DO ILLEGAL ENCAMPMENTS EXIST? >> I'LL LET DEPUTY BROWN ADDRESS THE ENCAMPMENT PIECE. I'LL REITERATE THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO FORCIBLY TRANSFER SOMEONE TO THE WEST SIDE OR ANY OTHER SHELTER. >>COUN. LEWIS: I UNDERSTAND THAT. THERE'S NO DOUBT. BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CITE AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE PEOPLE ALONG. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CLEAN UP THOSE ENCAMPMENTS. WHY DO THEY CONTINUE TO EXIST IF WE HAVE THOSE POLICIES PLAIN, WE HAVE THE VACANT BEDS, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S ALL WE NEED. IS IT RESOURCES? MAYBE HIRE 40 MORE SAFETY DIVISION FOR HEM FOR OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THESE ISSUES. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE LEGAL SIDE. I KNOW YOU WENT THROUGH A LONG PRESENTATION ON THAT. I'M TALKING ABOUT OUR POLICIES IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, LET ME BEGIN BY INDICATING TO YOU THAT FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE CLEAR OUT OVER 100 ENCAMPMENTS A MONTH. WE HAVE FULL-TIME STAFF THAT IS WORKING THESE ISSUES EVERY DAY. YOU ALL WERE SUPPORTIVE OF A RATE INCREASE JUST RECENTLY TO CREATE ENCAMPMENT CREW FOR EACH QUADRANT OF THE CITY SO WE CAN WORK EVEN MORE ON CLEAN UPS AND HELPING MOVE THE ENCAMPMENTS AS THEY DEVELOP AND APPEAR IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THE REAL CHALLENGE IS THAT WE HAVE A POLICY THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN AND HOW WE MANAGE THESE ENCAMPMENTS. WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT AS A GOVERNMENTAL INSTITUTE TO FORCE ANYONE TO LEAVE AN AREA. WE IS CERTAINLY SAY TO THEM YOU HAVE TO MOVE ON AND THEY MOVE ON. THEY MOVE ON TO A DIFFERENT PART OF THE CITY OR AREA. THE ENCAMPMENTS SHOW UP THERE AGAIN. OUR STAFF PROBABLY MOVES THE SAME FOLKS OVER AND OVER FOUR OR FIVE TIMES A WEEK. DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY ARE IN WHAT PART OF THE CITY. THE IDEA THESE CAMPS ARE GOING TO SIMPLY GO BECAUSE THERE'S BEDS AVAILABLE IN SOME OF THE SHELTERS OR ON THE WEST SIDE IS REALLY NOT A DECISION THAT WE CAN TELL PEOPLE TO DO THAT. THEY HAVE TO WANT TO DO THAT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, AND THAT'S ALSO ONE OF THE REASONS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO LEGAL ENCAMPMENTS. WE'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT AS WELL. DO WE CITE, DO OUR OFFICERS CITE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN ILLEGAL ENCAMPMENTS FOR BEING IN AN ILLEGAL ENCAMPMENT? MAYBE THEY MOVED AND THEY'RE BACK 15 MINUTES LATER, ARE THEY CITED? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ARRESTING, I'M TALKING ABOUT CITING. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. YES, THEY ARE. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE POLICY WE'VE -- IT COVERS AND OUTLINES WHEN OFFICERS CAN CITE. WE FOLLOW THE LINE IN THAT POLICY OF FOLLOWING THE PROGRESSIONS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKING SURE THAT OUTREACH HAS BEEN DONE AND THE OFFICERS COME OUT. WE DON'T HAVE A DATABASE THAT TRACKS THEM FROM ENCAMPMENTS TO ENCAMPMENTS. WE GO EVERY WEEK WITH PARK CLEAN UP. WE CLEAR DIFFERENT ENCAMPMENTS. AND PART OF THAT IS CITATIONS. ESPECIALLY ON PRIVATE PROPERTIES. ONE OF THE THINGS I CLARIFY IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PUBLIC VERSUS PRIVATE. PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND OFFICERS WILL GO OUT AND GIVE CITATIONS. AND IF THAT PERSON COMES BACK TO PRIVATE PROPERTY THEY CAN BE ARREST FOR THAT. THEY'RE ARRESTING PEOPLE WHEN IT'S FEASIBLE. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU ARE ARRESTING SIMPLY FOR ILLEGAL ENCAMPMENTS ? >> ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, IF IT MEETS THAT LEVEL. AS IT GETS TO THAT PROGRESSION FIRST. >>COUN. LEWIS: THE DIFFERENCE IN OUR PRIORITY, THE ONE, TWO, THREE PRIORITY WHEN IT COMES TO PRIVATE PROPERTY? JUST THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE PRIORITIES WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PROPERTY? >> IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC PROPERTY, WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND ISSUING CRIMINAL TRESPASSING. AND PART OF THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME DOWN TO POLICY WRITTEN. THERE'S CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT HAVE TO BE MET. PART OF THAT GOES TO THE ISSUE OF CAN YOU BE ARRESTED FOR SOME OF THIS. SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARREST FOR ARE DRUG POSSESSION, NARCOTICS, FIREARMS, ANY CRIMES THAT ARE BEING COMMITTED. WE'RE TAKING ACTION THEN. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, ONE MORE QUESTION FOR LEGAL. YOU MENTIONED THE NUMBER OF CASES AND THE MEDIAN CASE. IRRELEVANT TO THIS. YOU MENTION THE NINTH CIRCUIT. NOT OUR JURISDICTION. BUT, THERE'S THIS -- I GUESS HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE NINTH CIRCUIT. WHAT IS THE RATIO? IF THERE ARE AVAILABLE BEDS, 369 AVAILABLE BEDS, WOULD THAT MEAN WE COULD ARREST 369 PEOPLE BECAUSE THERE'S 369 VACANT BEDS? WHAT IS THE NUMBER? YOU SAY WE HAVE 2,000 PEOPLE LIVING ON THE STREETS AT NIGHT. BUT WE HAVE 1100 AVAILABLE BEDS EACH NIGHT. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE CAN'T ENFORCE SOME OF THE LAWS. WHAT IS THAT RATIO? AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS DO OTHER STATES OR CITY AROUND THE COUNTRY DONE THAT? FOR SOME REASON WE'RE FEARFUL FOR BEING SUED IN THAT REGARD. WHEN OTHERVISE TESTED THAT. I GUESS FIRST OF ALL, WHAT IS THE RATIO. WE THROW OUT THESE NUMBERS AND SAY -- WHAT IS IT? IF ONE PERSON CAN'T BE ARRESTED EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE 365 BEDS AVAILABLE. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, THIS IS KEVIN MORROW. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DRILL DOWN TO GET YOU MY EXACT ANSWER. GENERALLY THE RULE HAS BEEN INTERPRETED YOU NEED SUFFICIENT BEDS AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE IN THE POPULATION. IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE MOST CONSTRUCTIVE THING TO FREE WILL ON THESE ANSWERS. LET FEE GET YOU AN EXACT ANSWER. >>COUN. LEWIS: I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S CRITICAL. WE NEED GUIDANCE FROM YOU ON THAT. I THINK WE CAN'T JUST THROW OUT THIS NINTH CIRCUIT COURT RULING WITHOUT HAVING BACK UP FOR NUMBERS TO SHOW THAT. EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE 369 VACANT BEDS AVAILABLE EVERY NIGHT AND WE THROW OUT THAT NINTH CIRCUIT COURT RULING AS A FEAR. OUR HANDS ARE TIED BECAUSE OF THIS COURT THAT'S NOT IN OUR CIRCUIT. WE NEED GUIDANCE FROM YOU ON THAT. I APPRECIATE IT. >> ABSOLUTELY. COUNCILOR LEWIS, I'M HAPPY TO GET THAT INFORMATION. >>COUN. LEWIS: I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION NEEDS GUIDANCE BECAUSE IT'S THE ADMINISTRATION POLICY TO NOT MAKE ARRESTS, NOT CITE, TO ALLOW THEM TO EXIST. THAT IS THE POLICY OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. BY THE WAY, WE PUT $60 MILLION IN HOMELESS SERVICES IN THIS LAST BUDGET. $20 MILLION IN VOUCHERS. $25 MILLION IN GRT BOND. THIS COUNCIL IS DOING ITS JOB. GIVING YOU THE RESOURCES AND MONEY YOU NEED. NOW IT'S UP TO YOU AND YOUR POLICY OF THIS ADMINISTRATION TO CARRY OUT WHAT THIS CITY NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITY. >> YOU KNOW, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST AND UNDERSTANDING THIS LEGAL QUESTION. I CERTAINLY WILL DEFER TO LEGAL ABOUT THIS ISSUE. THIS POLICY IS NOT THIS ADMINISTRATION'S POLICY. TO BE EVEN MORE POINTED, THIS IS BEEN A POLICY IN PLACE FOR SEVERAL ADMINISTRATIONS. ADMINISTRATIONS THAT YOU SERVED UNDER AS A COUNCIL AND THIS ADMINISTRATION. THE IDEA THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX PROBABLY, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. OUR POLICY IS TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT AND WORK WITHIN THE RULES THAT GOVERN HOW APD HAS TO OPERATE BY CASA OR WITH THE McLENDEN CASE THAT WAS ENTERED INTO THIS AGREEMENT WHILE YOU WERE ON THE COUNCIL, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. THESE ARE POLICIES THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH. AND RATHER THAN TALK ABOUT WHAT IS NOT GOING RIGHT OR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS WRONG, HOW ABOUT WE WORK TOGETHER TO FIND A SOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE? THERE IS NO QUESTION THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF TRYING TO FIND AND FUND PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION. WE APPRECIATE THAT. -- LOOK AT THIS AS A POLITICAL ISSUE THAN A SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM THAT IS IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, MR. RAEL, THAT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO. THAT ADMINISTRATION. AND I GAVE THAT ADMINISTRATION THE SAME QUESTIONS AND GUESS WHAT I GAVE THAT ADMINISTRATION A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY TO DEAL WITH THOSE ISSUES. AND YOU GUYS REPEAT ABOUT US COMING UP WITH SOLUTIONS. WE'VE GIVEN YOU SOLUTIONS. PRIMARILY WHAT THIS COUNCIL'S PRIMARY JOB TO DO AND THAT IS TO GIVE YOU THE MONEY. WE NEED TO HEAR YOUR SOLUTIONS. I'D LIKE TO -- THE MAYOR TO STEP UP AND GIVE SOLUTIONS THAT MAKE THE SOLUTIONS. NOT LIP SERVICE OR BLAMING THE COUNCIL, BUT THE KIND OF SOLUTIONS THAT COULD COME AND SHOULD COME FROM AN ADMINISTRATION THAT'S CAPABLE OF IT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR LEWIS. WE'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I UNDERSTAND THE RESTRICTIONS THAT APD IS UNDER IN REGARD TO MISDEMEANOR CRIME WHEN IT COMES TO ARREST. BUT, WHAT ABOUT FELONY CRIME? >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. THE FELONY CRIMES ARE SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TACKLING SINCE FOREVER. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR PRT WHICH IS GOING OUT EVERY DAY, OUR OFFICERS IN SOUTHEAST AREA COMMAND, VALLEY, EVERY COMMAND HAS UNIQUE PROBLEMS. AND THE FELONY PROBLEMS ARE OCCURRING IN PUBLIC PROPERTY AND PARKS, THOSE ARE BEING ARRESTED. NARCOTICS, VIOLENT CRIMES, POSSESSION OF FIREARMS, THINGS LIKE THAT ARE FELONY RELATED. WE ARREST ON THOSE ON A WEEKLY BASIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, DEPUTY CHIEF. I CERTAINLY BELIEVE THEY'RE ARRESTING. AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THEIR ARREST. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO POINT OUT THAT WHILE I WAS AT CORONADO PARK SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, SOMEBODY WAS SMOKING SOMETHING THAT WASN'T CANNABIS AND NOTHING WAS DONE ABOUT IT. THAT WAS ONE EXAMPLE THAT I WITNESSED. AND I KNOW PEOPLE KEEP SEEING THAT. WHEN I SPEAK ABOUT ARREST, IT'S NOT TO ARREST FOR SOMEONE BEING HOMELESS, BUT THINGS THAT ARE FELONY CRIMES SUCH AS SOMETHING THAT IS OPEN DRUG USE. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. THAT'S PART OF THE EXPECTATION THAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR. THE OTHER THING I HAVE, MR. PRESIDENT, IS REALLY A COMMENT BASED OFF OF MY EXPERIENCE AND EXPECTATION WHEN GOING DOWN THE ROAD WITH SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES ORIGINALLY. DIRECTOR WAS SAYING THAT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WAS NEVER INTEND TO BE PERMANENT AND IT'S GOING TO BE TEMPORARY. THAT WASN'T MY IMPRESSION. CAMP HOPE IN LAS CRUCES HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 11 YEARS. AS ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES AND ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT THEY USE TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE LAYERS OF HOMELESSNESS IN THEIR CITY. COUNCIL ENDED UP AMENDING SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES THROUGH COUNCILOR BENTON'S AMENDMENT SAYING THAT IT SHOULD ONLY BE TWO YEARS WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR TWO ONE YEAR-EXTENSIONS. JUST TO CLARIFY MY ORIGINAL EXPECTATIONS OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WAS IT WAS GOING TO BE RELATIVELY AND LIKELY QUITE PERMANENT IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO ADD THAT IN THERE SO PEOPLE CAN ALSO UNDERSTAND ANOTHER LEVEL OF WHAT CHANGED. FROM THE BEGINNING OF MY SUPPORT IN ADDITION TO NOW AND MY CHANGE OF HEART. >>COUN. BENTON: NEXT IS COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. THE FIRST IS FOR DEPUTY CHIEF BROWN. DEPUTY CHIEF, I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF FALSE AND MISLEADING AND IRRESPONSIBLE STATEMENTS IN THE LAST WEEK. I WANT TO CLARIFY WITH YOU. IF SOMEONE COMMITS A VIOLENT CRIME, THEY'RE ARRESTED, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IF SOMEONE HAS A FIREARM, THEY'RE ARRESTED? >> YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IF SOMEONE IS DEALING DRUGS, ILLEGAL DRUGS, THEY RURESTED? >> YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THAT IS DONE IN A HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT OR ON THE SIDE WALK IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN DOWN, WHEREVER THOSE THINGS HAPPEN, WE ARE ARRESTING PEOPLE WHO COMMIT VIOLENT CRIMES OR ILLICIT DRUGS? >> YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. I HAVE HEARD INCREDIBLY FALSE STATEMENTS. I HAVE TWO QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR PIERCE. DIRECTOR PIERCE, YOU PUT UP A SLIDE THAT TALKED ABOUT THE GIBSON CENTER AND MENTIONED PHASE ONE. I JUST WONDERED IF YOU CAN GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON WHAT THAT ENTAILS AND IF ALL OF PHASE ONE HAS BEEN PERMITTED AND FUNDED. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, PHASE ONE WHICH INCLUDES THE GATEWAY CENTER OVERNIGHT EMERGENCY CENTER AND ENGAGEMENT CENTER FIRST RESPONDER DROPOFF AND MEDICAL RESPITE AND MEDICAL SOBERING, THOSE ARE THE MAJOR COMPONENTS OF PHASE ONE. THE FUNDING IS IN PLACE FOR THOSE AND PERMITTING -- WE ARE CURRENTLY THE ONLY COMPONENT AMONG THOSE THREE THAT REQUIRES A PERMIT OR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS THE GATEWAY. AND WE'RE UNDER THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. THE MEDICAL SOBERING COMPONENT AND MEDICAL RESPITE DO NOT REQUIRE PERMITS. THEY'RE ALLOWED IN THAT ZONE IN THAT LOCATION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: . >> THE ENGAGEMENT CENTER AND FIRST RESPONDER DROP OFF ARE ALLOWED AT THIS TIME. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. I DID HAVE ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR PIERCE. YOU MENTIONED THAT THE WEST SIDE EMERGENCY HOUSING CENTER THERE IS A BIBLE STUDY GROUP. OR BIBLE STUDY. IS THAT ACTUALLY BEING HELD ON CITY PROPERTY IN A CITY SAFE AND USING UP RESOURCES FROM THE CITY? >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, IT IS HELD AT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. DUE THE DISTANCE FROM TOWN. IT IS NOT USING ANY CITY RESOURCES. IT IS USING CHURCH RESOURCES. >> JUST TO ADD TO THAT. WHETHER IT'S NARCOTICS OR ALCOHOL ANONYMOUS OR A BIBLE STUDY, ALL THOSE ARE OPTIONAL SERVICES. NOBODY IS FORCED TO DO THAT. THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS COMING INTO THE SPACE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE. AS TRUE TO ANY CITY SERVICE, THERE ARE NO BARRIERS YOU HAVE TO PUT THERE TO GET THE SERVICE. ALL THAT IS VOLUNTARY FOR PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO ACCESS THAT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: NEXT IS COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND ALSO SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION AS WELL. ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE IS IN REFERENCE TO TRACKING THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ACTUALLY OUT THERE AND NEED TO BE CITED WHEN THEY RETURN. DEPUTY CHIEF BROWN SAID THAT WE DON'T HAVE A DATABASE TO DO SO. IN MY EXPERIENCE, ANY TIME YOU HAD A POLICE REPORT OR RUN A LICENSE PLATE OR DEAL WITH THE CAD SYSTEM YOU CREATE A RECORD OF THAT INDIVIDUAL AND YOU CAN EASILY SEE ON THE SYSTEM THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE THAT INDIVIDUAL HAS BEEN CITED OR TALKED TO IN THE PAST AND ACTUALLY NOTES CAN BE ADDED TO THE CAD SYSTEM TO SHOW THAT INDIVIDUAL CAN BE FOLLOWED UP ON AND SHOULD BE FOLLOWED UP ON. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE IGNORING THE CAPABILITY THAT WE HAVE ALREADY IN PLACE TO DEAL WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ACTUALLY CONDUCTING THESE ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES AND ALSO ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE CAMPS. WE HAVE A RECORD KEEPING SYSTEM ALREADY IN PLACE AND IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. THAT'S A COMMENT I HAVE. ALSO, ANOTHER COMMENT I HAVE IS IF WE HAVE 572,000 SQUARE FEET AT THE GIBSON COMPLEX, AND SEVEN TENANTS, 17% TALKPANCY DOESN'T MAKE ANY KIND OF SENSE TO ME. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE'S ANYTHING KNOWING ON -- GOING ON THAT MAKES SENSE. WHEN YOU HAVE 240 BEDS AVAILABLE AND WE'VE ALREADY DETERMINED THAT ALL THESE THINGS ARE DONE, I'M ACTUALLY, FROM WHAT WE'RE HEARING, THAT BY YOUR OWN RULE AND WORDS LIKE COUNCILOR LEWIS SAID, WHY DO THEY EXIST? IF THESE RULES HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR WHOEVER -- FOR -- WHY ARE THEYSTILL EXISTING? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MY FINAL QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN AS A COUNCIL. WE PROVIDE THE FUNDING. WE PROVIDE IDEAS, WE PROVIDE REASONS, WE'RE ASKING THE QUESTIONS THAT THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE NEED TO HEAR. AND I JUST FEEL LIKE EVERYBODY'S IGNORING IT. THE ADMINISTRATION IS 100% IGNORING WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE ARE DEMANDING. AND THAT IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE'RE FACING. WHY IS ADMINISTRATION, APD, AFRAID OF TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS AT CORONADO PARK? IT'S A CRIME-INFIRSTED ILLEGAL DE FACTO SANCTIONED BY THE CITY PARK. AND WE'RE SPENDING THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON IT. IF WE TOOK THOSE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT WE'RE USING AT CORONADO PARK AND USED AS A TEST BED AND PUT THE FACILITIES IN PLACE RIGHT IN THAT AREA, AND STARTED DEALING WITH IT, THEN YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CONVINCE ME THAT OTHER THINGS ARE POSSIBLE. WE ARE IGNORING MAJOR SITUATIONS IN ALBUQUERQUE AND FINDING EXCUSES ALL THE WAY AROUND. AGAIN, WHY DO THEY STILL EXIST? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, WE DO APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S SUPPORT ON MANY FRONTS. APD AS CHIEF BROWN JUST SAID EARLIER, THERE'S A POLICY DOJ REVIEWS AS IT RELATES TO ENFORCEMENT OF ILLEGAL CAMPS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. AND APD WILL BE WORKING WITH THAT TO GET THAT IMPLEMENTED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. WE'RE NOT IGNORING THE ISSUES THAT ARE OCCURRING IN THESE AREAS. I THINK APD WILL BEGIN A VERY APPROACH TO DEALING WITH SOME OF THE CONCERNS. YOU AS A FORMER POLICE OFFICER KNOW THAT IF THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND THE NUMBER OF OTHER CRIMES THAT OCCUR IN THE CITY, APD IS DOING THEIR VERY BEST WITH THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL THAT THEY HAVE TO MANAGE ALL OF THOSE ISSUES ACROSS THE BOARD. I'D BE HAPPY TO SIT WITH YOU AND TALK MORE ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE AS IT RELATES TO THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. WHICH IS THE -- YOU MENTIONED GIBSON IN YOUR COMMENTS. LOOK, WE ARE AS EAGER AS YOU ARE TO GET THAT FACILITY OPENED UP AND GETTING IT GOING. WE'VE BEEN IN A LAND USE CONDITIONAL USE CONVERSATION FOR A LONG TIME. ALMOST A YEAR. THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE CAN WORK WITH YOU ALL AND WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT IN AN AGGRESSIVE MANNER. I'D BE HAPPY TO VISIT WITH YOU SOME MORE ON THESE POLICIES. ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO APD. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MR. PRESIDENT, MR. RAEL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW IS WE'VE DONE -- DUMPED SO MUCH MONEY INTO THE RESOURCES AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES? IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO APD? IF APD IS AN ISSUE, WE NEED TO DO SOME CHECKS AND BALANCES AT APD TO FIND OUT WHY THESE OFFICERS ARE LEAVING. WE NEED TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE INTERVIEWS ARE SAYING. WHAT ARE THEY SAYING AS THEY'RE LEAVING. I HEAR WHAT THEIR SAYING. THEY'RE SAYING THE KFRDZ -- THEY DON'T FEEL SUPPORTED BY THE POLICE ADMINISTRATION OR THE ADMINISTRATION. WE'RE SENDING FELL-TRAINED OFFICERS EVERY SINGLE DAY INTO OUR NEIGHBORING DEPARTMENTS AFTER THEY FIND OUT WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON. SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE WE NEED TO FIX THAT PROBLEM AS WELL. THERE'S GOT TO BE A REASON WHY WE'RE LOSING OFFICERS AND WHY WE CAN'T GAIN OFFICERS AND WE'RE STILL LESS OFFICERS THIS YEAR THAN WE HAD LAST YEAR. AND WE'RE CONTINUING ON THAT PATH. AND SOMETHING DESPERATELY NEEDS TO CHANGE IN THAT AREA AS WELL. NOW THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL MOVE ON TO COUNCILOR GROUT AND COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR PIERCE, FOR THE PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS FOR ME. ONE QUESTION I HAVE, ANOTHER QUESTION, WHERE DID WE COME UP WITH 72 HOURS TO GIVE THESE PEOPLE NOTICE? IS THAT A MAGIC NUMBER? OR CAN WE GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT LESS NOTICE? WITHIN THAT 72 HOURS THAT CAMP GROWS. YOU SHOULD VISIT CENTRAL AND TRAMWAY. IT'S A HOT MESS. EVERY DAY, AS SOON AS IT'S CLEANED UP PEOPLE ARE BACK AND IT'S LIKE A REVOLVING DOOR. IT'S A HOT MESS. CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION? AND I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR GROUT, 72 HOURS HAS BEEN IN OUR POLICY TO GIVE AMPLE NOTIFICATION BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN OUR OUTREACH TEAM GOES OUT TO THAT CITE, IT MAY UNOCCUPIED OR OCCUPIED, WE'RE HANGING THE NOTICE IN SPANISH AND ENGLISH TO LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT RESOURCES BUT THEY CANNOT HAVE AN ENCAMPMENT THERE. 72 HOURS IS A GENERAL PRACTICE TO ALLOW THE TIME FOR THEM TO REMOVE THEMSELVES AND ALSO THE WAY OUR PROCESS GOES THEN WE HAVE OUR OUTREACH TEAM LIKE ACS FOLLOWING UP WITH RESOURCES. TO THE OTHER COUNCILOR'S POINT, YES THERE ARE BEDS AVAILABLE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RESOURCE AND WHERE WEEM CAN -- PEOPLE CAN GO. SOMETIMES THOSE ENCAMPMENTS AREN'T OCCUPIED. SO WHEN A CALL COMES IN AND WE'RE SENDING PEOPLE OUT, WE NEED TO GIVE PEOPLE NOTICE. THAT'S THEIR POSSESSIONS, THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE IDENTIFICATION. SO WE'RE PROVIDING THOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COULD YOU CHANGE THAT POLICY SO IT'S A 48-HOUR NOTICE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR GROUT, I MEAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT. I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY THOUGH, THE WAY OUR POLICY IS WRITTEN WITH PRIORITY ONE, THAT'S COMPREHENSIVE AND IMMEDIATE. THE 72 HOURS, IT IS RESOURCE INTENSIVE TO ADDRESS ALL THE ENCAMPMENTS. I KNOW THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. MY CONCERN WOULD BE, IF WE LESSON THAT TIME WE -- LESSEN THAT TIME WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MEET THAT EXPECTATION. IT'S A MINIMUM OF 72 HOURS. I'M JUST CONCERNED WE COULDN'T DO THAT HONORABLY. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. ANOTHER QUESTION IS, IT SAYS NO CAMPING AND NO LOITERING AND YOU ALLOW THEM TO STAY THERE, AREN'T THEY BREAKING THE LAW? AND SHOULDN'T THAT BE A GROUNDS FOR MOVING ON? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR GROUT, AGAIN, I KNOW YOU HAVE CONCERNS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND PUBLIC PROPERTY. THERE IS THE DISTINCTION. AND I'M REALLY SPEAKING TO THE PUBLIC PROPERTY PIECE. PRIVATE PROPERTY, IT BRINGS IN A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER PIECES BY THE BUSINESS OWNER, THE LOCAL SECURITY. IF PEOPLE ARE CAMPING IN THOSE PRIORITY ONE AREAS, THEY NEED TO BE REMOVED. BECAUSE THEY WILL HARM THEMSELVES BY BEING IN A ROAD WAY, OR THEY'RE GOING TO HARM TRAFFIC OR OTHER PEOPLE. THE PRIORITY TWOS AREN'T THAT. THEY'RE NOT IN IMMEDIATE CAUSING IMMEDIATE DANGER TO THEMSELVES OTHER OTHERS. I DON'T THINK I REALLY ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THOSE PRIORITIES TO REALLY IDENTIFY URGENCY AND TO REALLY MINIMIZE HARM AND DISTRESS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO JUST TRAVEL TO CENTRAL AND TRAMWAY AND HANG OUT THERE. YOU CAN SIT IN THE EINSTEIN INSIDE THEIR SHOP. JUST WATCH. I'M SERIOUS, YOU CAN JUST WATCH THE DRUG DEALING GOING ON. IT'S VERY OPEN. THEY ARE NOT GETTING ARRESTED. AND I WOULD -- WE REALLY NEED HELP UP THERE. WE NEED TO BE ENFORCING THE LAWS. IT'S GETTING REALLY OUT OF HAND. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR -- FROM A CONSTITUENT. I'D LIKE SOMEBODY TO ANSWER FOR ME, WHY HAVE WE SEEN AN INCREASE OF PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE WHO WALK OUT OF STORES CARRYING CARTS FULL OF TVs OR POWER SAWS WITHOUT PAYING ANYTHING AND WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT? THIS IS FROM A CONSTITUENT IN MY AREA. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THANK YOU. APD HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. OUR ORGANIZED RETAIL TIME UNIT HAS BEEN BUILDING BUSINESS COALITIONS WITH A LOT OF RETAIL STORES TO INCLUDE ANY OF THE BIG BOXES THAT HAVE PEOPLE WALK OUT. IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH SOME OF THOSE COMPANIES THAT WOULD SHOW UP FOR COURT AFTER WE GET SOMEBODY IN CUSTODY, WE'RE WORKING TO DO THAT NOW. ACTUALLY, PART OF THE BUSINESS COALITION IS BEGINNING WITH THOSE STORES AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE SOMEBODY SHOW UP. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE BUSINESSES AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. COMMANDER IN THE NORTHWEST OPERATIONS AND HOME DEPOT AND COTTON WOOD MALL AREA. AND AROUND CORONADO MALL. THERE ARE ACTIONS BEING TAKEN. ONE OF THE THINGS WE ASK IS IF THEY SEE IT TO REPORT IT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS NOW ABOUT THE 311 APP OR WHEN PEOPLE CALL 311 AND REPORT THINGS. WE GET THIS ALL THE TIME AND I LOVE THE 311 APP YOU CAN DOWNLOAD ON YOUR PHONE. I USE IT OFTEN. WHEN I REPORT SOMETHING, AND THEN I GET A FOLLOW UP EMAIL, IT SAYS THAT IT'S BEEN COMPLETED. AND I DRIVE BY THE LOCATION OF WHERE I WAS COMPLAINING AND IT'S STILL THERE. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THE SYSTEM CAN BE REVISED A LITTLE BIT? WHERE IT SAYS INSTEAD OF COMPLETED, IT SAYS REFERRED TO A DEPARTMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BECAUSE IT'S VERY CONFUSING TO CONSTITUENTS. THEY THINK THAT IT'S BEEN DONE, BUT IT'S NOT. THEY SEND A FOLLOW UP, OR SEND A FOLLOW UP EMAIL TO US. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SOME THINGS NOT EFFICIENT. WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET THAT RESOLVED? >> THIS IS DIRECTOR OF DEPARTMENT OF TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION. THE DEPARTMENT IS HANDLING THE CLOSING OF THESE COMPLAINTS THEMSELVES. WE CAN LOOK MORE CLOSELY AT THAT TO SEE. WE HAVE UNDERTAKEN A LOT OF EFFORT TO GET VERY SPECIFIC AND DILIGENT ON LOOKING AT CASES, ARE THEY GETTING CLOSED, ARE THEY GETTING CLOSED PROPERLY. WE'RE WORKING WITH DIRECTOR TO BRING DOWN CASES THAT STAY OPEN FOR PERIODS OF TIME. THE SYSTEM IS WORKING AS IT SHOULD. IF IT IS GETTING CLOSED BEFORE IT'S TAKEN CARE OF, THAT'S SOMETHING WE WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO DEAL WITH. IT SHOULD NOT GET CLOSED BEFORE THE DEPARTMENT BEFORE HAS THE SITUATION HANDLED. THIS IS WHY I REQUESTED AND APPRECIATIVE TO THE COUNCIL FOR FUNDING. SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THESE KINDS OF SITUATIONS AND FIND ARE THEY HAPPENING, WHERE ARE THEY HAPPENING, WE DO SOME SECRET SHOPPER THINGS ALREADY. ABANDONENED VEHICLES HAVE BEEN ONE OF THOSE THAT BEEN A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR EFFORT. AND ANOTHER ONE IS ENCAMPMENTS. WE'LL STEP THAT UP. AND WE'LL LOOK CLOSELY AT THAT. THE SYSTEM IS REFLECTING WHAT THE DEPARTMENT PUT IN. I DON'T WANT TO THROW THE DEPARTMENT UNDER THE BUS, SO TO SPEAK. WE'LL WORK THE DEPARTMENT AND WORK WITH YOU VERY HAPPILY IF YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION. I LIVE IN THE AREA AROUND CENTRAL AND TRAMWAY MYSELF, IF THAT'S ONE OF THE SPECIFIC ONES YOU NEED TO LOOK AT I'LL WORK CLOSELY WITH YOU AND YOUR ANALYST TO MAKE SURE IT'S PROPERLY REFLECTING THE SITUATION. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, I'D LIKE THAT. I'D LIKE IT LOT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: ARE YOU FINISHED COUNCILOR? COUNCILOR DAVIS IS NEXT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO DO THIS. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE OVER DUE TO HAVE AN IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CITY STRATEGY. AS COUNCILOR LEWIS POINTED OUT WE PUT MORE MONEY INTO HOMELESSNESS THAN ANY OTHER YEAR PRIOR. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. I ADMIT I'M A LITTLE FRUSTRATED AS WE'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE TODAY AND HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH SOME RESPONDENTS AND COMMUNITY GROUPS AND EMAILS TOGETHER. WE SEEM TO BE GOING BACK AND FORTH. ARE WE DOING THIS OR NOT. WHEN IT COMES TO OUR STRATEGY ON HOMELESSNESS. I'M AS FRUSTRATED AS EVERY THER MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE STILL STRUGGLING TO COME UP WITH A COMPREHENSIVE HOMELESSNESS STRATEGY. IF YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THIS, GO HERE. IF THEY CAN BE IMPLEMENTED ON A STREET LEVEL. I HOPE THAT WITH THE NEW FUNDING FOR THINGS LIKE GIBSON AND THE PIECES THAT DO WORK, WE GET THERE. LET ME SAY, YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN SKEPTICAL OF THE GIBSON PROJECT BECAUSE IT WAS A VERY EXPENSIVE PROJECT AND SOMETHING WE KNEW WOULD REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE CHANGE TO MEET THE STATED GOALS. I'M SKEPTICAL. I'M ANXIOUS TO SEE THE PROCESS WORK ITS WAY THROUGH. IT'S MET THE RESISTANCE THAT ANY OF US ASSUMED IT WOULD. I THINK THAT REALLY STARTED TO UNDERMINE THE PUBLIC'S CONFIDENCE TO GET MONEY ON THE GROUND QUICKLY. THAT WASN'T A QUICK SOLUTION. EVEN IF GIBSON WORKED WE STILL NEED AN OPTION. WE STILL HAVE PARKS AND OVERPASSES FULL OF PEOPLE THAT ARE CAMPING. AND FAIR WARNING TO MR. MORROW, I'M GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR LEWIS ON THIS AND SAY I THINK WE NEED A MORE COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS AND MORE DETAILED ANALYSIS FROM THE TENTH CIRCUIT ON WHAT EXACTLY IT IS WE BELIEVE OUR LEGAL LIMITS ARE. WE CONSISTENTLY HEARD ANALYSIS THAT SAYS, AND I AGREE WITH THIS, I THINK WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING SAFE SPACES FOR PEOPLE TO GO BEFORE WE REQUIRE THEM TO MOVE FROM AN OTHERWISE ACCESSIBLE PUBLIC SPACE. WE CAN'T JUST KEEP MOVING THEM AROUND EVERY DAY. I WANTED TO ASK IF YOU COULD, AND RESPONDING TO COUNCILOR LEWIS, IF YOU COULD DO ANALYSIS ON HOW CITIES IN THE TENTH CIRCUIT IS ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES. HOW IS LAS CRUCES DOING IT? IT SEEMS TO WORK WITH THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT. I KNOW THEY'RE HAVING CHALLENGES. WE HEARD FROM DENVER THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING THIS AND WORKING THROUGH THOSE ISSUES. WE DIDN'T GET LEGAL ANALYSIS OR POLICE ANALYSIS. I'M WONDERING IF CITY ATTORNEYS CAN HELP US SO WE'RE NOT DOING APPLES AND ORANGES AND TALK TO OTHER CIIES AND FIGURE OUT HOW THEY ADDRESS THIS. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR DAVIS, I CAN ADMIT I DON'T HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS OF TENTH CIRCUIT YOU'RE REQUESTING. ESPECIALLY WITH THE COUNCIL HIATUS COMING FORWARD AFTER THIS MEETING, I CAN GET THE DEPARTMENT ON BOARD TO TRY AND ADDRESS A COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS OF HOW OTHER CITIES ARE TACKLING THIS. I KNOW ONE OF THE ISSUES WHY WE REFERENCED THAT NINTH CIRCUIT CASE IS MY BELIEF IS WE DON'T HAVE A WEALTH OF CASE PRECEDENT. LET ME GET GOING ON PROVIDING THAT ANALYSIS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HAPPY TO GET IT TO YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: I DON'T THINK WE NEED A 900 PAGE MEMO. DENVER IS LOOKING AT THE SAME COURT CASES WE ARE. BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. WHAT HAVE THEY DONE AND HOW ARE THEY ADDRESSING THAT? I APPRECIATE THAT. I ALSO WANT TO SAY, AND DEPUTY CHIEF BROWN, I WANT A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT AND THANK YOU TO YOU AND THE WEST SIDE IMPACT TEAM ADDRESSING A CONSTITUENT CONCERN. I APPRECIATE THAT. I APOLOGIZE, YOU MAY HAVE ADDRESSED THIS, WHEN IT -- THE APD RECENTLY ISSUED A SPECIAL ORDER DIRECTING OFFICERS MORE SPECIFICALLY ON DEALING WITH SOME OF THE HOMELESSNESS OR QUALITY OF LIFE CRIMES. I'M NOT A PROPONENT OF USING THOSE AS AN EXCUSE TO MOVE HOMELESSNESS FOLKS AROUND. IT WAS ISSUED AND RESCIND. I UNDERSTAND OUR POLICY IS NOT TO STOP ENFORCING THE RULES BUT TO BETTER REVISE OUR APPROACH INCLUDING ACS AND OTHER ALTERNATIVES. IF YOU HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT ALREADY, COULD YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE PROCESS, AND THE TIMELINE WE CAN EXPECT AND HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO GET OFFICERS UP TO SPEED. AND DOES THAT DEPEND ON PROVIDING SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN ORDER TO ENFORCE RULES IN THE PUBLIC PARKS ? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR DAVIS, THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. ESSENTIALLY, WHAT THE APD REVISES POLICIES ALL THE TIME. WE DO AND WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR OFFICERS UNDERSTAND AND FOLLOW THE LAW. THE POLICY SET FORTH TO THE DOJ -- WHAT OUR PROCESS WORKS, IS EACH SECTION HAS 12 DAYS TO REVIEW THAT POLICY AND SEND IT BACK FOR COMMENTS. WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A 30-DAY TURNAROUND. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. WE ARE STILL ENFORCING LAWS. THAT POLICY IS BEING DEVISED FOR APPROVAL OF DOJ. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'M SORRY, MR. PRESIDENT, JUST TO FOLLOW UP. IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING APD DOES INTEND TO ISSUE A NEW ROUND OF SPECIAL ORDERS THAT BETTER INSTRUCTS OFFICERS? AND DOES IT DEPEND ON HAVING SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN PLACE OR CAN APD ISSUE THAT GUIDANCE BASED ON THE CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS ON THE GROUND? >> THAT IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. AS FAR AS SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IT DOESN'T DEPEND ON SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I HAVE QUESTIONS OF MY OWN. AND WE'LL SEE IF WE NEED TO CONTINUE. I FOUND THIS VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE THE PRESENTATION AND ASK SOME QUESTIONS. FOR DIRECTOR PIERCE, I WAS EXPECTING, YOU KNOW WE HAVE THE NUMBER. YOU SAID 369 VACANT BEDS. HOW IS THAT RELATED TO THE POINT IN TIME COUNT? I KNOW WE'RE NOT DOING IT EVERY WEEK. BUT DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF THAT NUMBER AS OPPOSED TO THE DEMAND? NOT DEMAND. THE NEED, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. FIRST OF ALL, PEOPLE NEED TO BE WILLING TO GO TO A SHELTER. AND THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT QUESTION. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE NUMBERS AND TALKING ABOUT THE NINTH CIRCUIT DECISION IN BOISE, WHAT IS THE -- MY UNDERSTANDING WAS SUM TOTAL OF UNUSED, VACANT BEDS WAS 369. WHAT IS THE ESTIMATE OF THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE CAMPING ON THE STREETS? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. THE 369 ON THAT JUNE 20th WHEN THE CALLS WERE MADE, THOSE NINE EMERGENCY SHELTERS. THE POINT AND TIME COUNT WHICH IS OUR COMMUNITY USES AND ALL COMMUNITIES CROS THE NATION, WHEN THAT COUNT WAS DONE IN JANUARY, AND WE ALWAYS NOTE IT'S AN UNDERESTIMATE, BUT WHAT THE NATION USES, IT WAS ABOUT 1500 UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT. WOULD BE ON OUR STREET. WE ALWAYS KNOW THAT FAMILIES, FOR ONE, ARE UNDERCOUNTED AS THEY'RE COUCH SURFING. THOSE ARE ALSO CONSIDERED UNHOUSED PEOPLE. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S DIFFERENT KINDS OF UNHOUSED PEOPLE. THERE ARE FAMILIES WHO ARE DOWN ON THEIR LUCK. THEY'RE COUCH SURFING. THEY DON'T HAVE A PERMANENT HOME. THAT'S A LOT DIFFERENT THAN -- I GUESS WE CALL IT THE HARD CORE OF FOLKS WHO ARE ON THE STREET AND -- THAT'S WHAT I THINK THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS MOST DISTURBED ABOUT. OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE COMPASSION FOR BOTH GROUPS OF PEOPLE. IS THERE A WAY OF DECIPHERING THAT? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, YES, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. AND THE TERM IS CHRONICILY HOMELESS. WE USE THE HUD DEFINITION. IF YOU'RE ON THE STREETS OVER A YEAR, OR HAD FOUR UNHOUSED EPISODES WITHIN A YEAR, THERE'S A CORRELATION WITH DISABILITY. AND IT ALL RELATES TO WHEN WE'RE BRINGING PEOPLE INTO THE COORDINATED ENTRY TO GET THEM INTO HOUSING. THEIR RISK SCORE, IF YOU WILL. IT'S REALLY THE CHRONIC PEOPLE WHO ARE CHRONICILY HOMELESS THAT >>COUN. BENTON: THERE WAS ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO CORRECT. IN YOUR PRESENTATION, IT WAS STATED, THAT SAFE OUTDOOR POLICIES HAVE A -- YOU CAN USE WITHIN YOUR TENT. YOU CAN'T BE OUTSIDE OF YOUR TENT SELLING OR USING. BUT BEING INSIDE YOUR TENT, JUST AS INSIDE ANY OF OUR HOMES, NOBODY -- NOBODY IS GOING TO PREVENT US FROM DOING THAT. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. HOWEVER THAT CAME OUT, IT WAS INCORRECT. YOU KNOW, SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES, JUST LIKE THE BEST PRACTICE AMONG THE EMERGENCY SHELTERS ARE LOW BARRIER. THESE ARE PEOPLE WITH MULTIPLE CHALLENGES. WHETHER IT BE DISABILITY, IN A WHEELCHAIR, MENTAL ILLNESS, SUBSTANCE ABUSE. AND IT'S WHY OUR WEST SIDE IS A LOW BARRIER SHELTER. AND MANY OTHER SHELTERS IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE. SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. WHILE YOU DO NEED TO HAVE A REFERRAL TO GO IN THERE, IT'S NOT A WALK UP, IT'S NOT FREE FOR ALL. IT'S VERY STRUCTURED. YES, IF YOU'RE USING AND YOU CHOSE TO USE IN YOUR TENT. JUST LIKE ANYBODY MIGHT IN YOUR HOME. NO, YOU CANNOT SELL DRUGS. THERE ARE RULES. YOU CANNOT BE DOING LOTS OF THIS. THERE RULES THAT GO ALONG WITH THIS. I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION IF WE MISSPOKE. >>COUN. BENTON: IT WAS OF THE BULLET POINTS THAT SHOULD BE CORRECTED. OKAY. IN THE HOMELESS COORDINATING COUNCIL THEY HAVE AN IMPACT STRATEGIES. I KNOW SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IS CONSIDERABLE PART OF THE DISCUSSION. IS THAT PART OF -- DO YOU KNOW WHETHER THAT'S NOW OFFICIALLY PART OF THE FRAMEWORK AS ONE OF THE ONE PIECE OF THE FRAMEWORK THAT CAN BE PUT ACCURATELY? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT. YES, SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES FROM EARLY ON WHEN WE ADOPTED AND THE COUNCIL APPROVED THAT FRAMEWORK, SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES HAS BEEN A PART OF THAT HIGH IMPACT STRATEGY IS INCLUDED IN THAT DOCUMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. AND COUNCILOR LEWIS REFERRED TO OUR BIG BOOST THAT WE GAVE TO VOUCHERS THAT IS STILL NOWHERE NEAR WHAT THE DEMAND IS. IT'S ALL PART OF THE UNIVERSE OF HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND GET PEOPLE IN SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IF THEY NEED ADDICTION RECOVERY AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. JUST A COUPLE MORE. PROBABLY FOR MR. MORROW. IT'S JUDGE BROWN THAT -- IT USED TO BE BROCK, AND NOW IT'S BROWN? >> ALMOST, IT'S BROWNING. >>COUN. BENTON: JUDGE BROWNING, AS YOU SAY, IS WITHIN HIS AUTHORITY BOTH WITH THE CASA AND McLENDEN. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT MIGHT BE SOME SORT OF OPPORTUNITY. I'VE ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE. I KNOW IT'S MAYBE TOUCHY. CAN WE ASK THE JUDGE FOR HELP WITH REGARD TO McLENDEN? McLENDEN WAS FROM A DIFFERENT TIME. WHEN WAS IT? WHAT YEAR WAS THAT? >> I BELIEVE McLENDEN CASE, THE CITY SETTLED THAT IN MARCH OF 2017. >>COUN. BENTON: I THOUGHT IT WAS OLDER THAN THAT. >> IT WAS FILED IN 1995. >>COUN. BENTON: I VENTURE TO SAY IT'S CHANGED SINCE 2017. CONSIDERABLY. I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT -- WOULD THAT BE OUT OF BOUNDS? OR IS THERE A VENUE FOR US TO WORK? PERHAPS THE DOJ OR NOT, JUST GOING STRAIGHT TO THE JUDGE AND ASKING FOR DIRECTION AND ASSISTANCE WITH REGARD TO LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE LOCALLY THAT SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES AND THE CIRCUIT DO NOT. >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WORKING WITH DOJ ISSUES AND BEEN INVOLVED WITH McLENDEN, THEY CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. COUNCILORS, THIS WHOLE THING WITH BOYS BOIST BOISE AND WHICH FEDERAL DISTRICT WE'RE IN. EVEN WITHIN OUR OWN CIRCUIT, TEN, THIS McLENDEN IS AN ADDITIONAL CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH. I'VE HEARD ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS FROM DIFFERENT CITY ATTORNEYS ABOUT WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN. COUNCILORS, FULL DISCLOSURE, I HAD A DISCUSSION THIS MORNING WITH MR. MEELENDREZ ABOUT COUNCIL STAFF DOING RESEARCH. MAYBE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON THAT. WE HAVE SOME RESOURCES ON OUR OWN. I'VE ALREADY ASKED OUR STAFF TO START LOOKING INTO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, ONLY TO SAY YES WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION AND I'M HEARING YOUR DIRECTION TO COORDINATE. WE'LL DO THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: I DO AGREE. IT'S GOT TO BE ALL HANDS ON DECK. WE CAN'T POINT FINGERS. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT WE PUT TOO MANY RESTRICTIONS ON SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. OTHER PEOPLE ARE STILL ADIMATELY AGAINST THEM. THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THE PRESENTATION FROM DENVER. NOT EVERYBODY CAN GO TO DENVER AND SEE WHAT I AND OTHERS SAW. IT'S NOT A FREE FOR ALL. IT'S A DIFFERENT CORONADO PARK WITH -- IT'S ORDERLY. IT'S CLEAN. PEOPLE SEEM CONTENT AND HAPPY TO BE THERE. IT PROVIDES A VENUE FOR SERVICES TO BE BROUGHT IN. THE SERVICES AREN'T SITTING THERE WAITING TO BE USED. THEY HAVE A COMMON TENT OR BUILDING WHERE THEIR SERVICES CAN BE PROVIDED. AND OF COURSE WE SAW IN THAT BOARD AND LOCAL NON-PROFITS AND CHURCHES AND SUCH BRING IN FOOD AND THERE'S A ROUND-ROBIN WHERE DINNER IS PREPARED AND BROUGHT IN. MY IMPRESSION WAS IT WAS A PRETTY TIGHT SHIP. AS WE SAID, ONCE YOU'RE IN A TENT OR YOU COME IN OR HIGH, YOU'RE NOT TURNED AWAY FROM THE GATEWAY. AND THEY'RE GATED. IT'S NOT JUST PEOPLE RUNNING IN AND OUT. IT'S HARD TO DESCRIBE WITHOUT SEEING IT. I HEARD SOME THINGS ABOUT TRAILERS, IT COULD BE A TRAILER CAMP. THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE DO NEED AND THE REASON COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND COUNCILOR DAVIS AND I HAVE THIS BILL BEFORE US TONIGHT ABOUT NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE ZONING QUESTIONS ABOUT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AND LAND USE QUESTIONS, WE NEED TO ANSWER THESE COMBEGZS >>COUN. BENTON: I DON'T HAVE TO GET THE ANSWER RIGHT NOW. AND THIS IS FOR MR. MORROW AND LEGAL TEAM. CAN CHURCHES, IN THEORY, COULD CHURCHES BE DECLARED A NUISANCE? I'M NOT ASKING FOR AN ANSWER RIGHT NOW. >> I APPRECIATE IT, I DON'T KNOW. I'LL LOOK AT IT. ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON A PREVIOUS STATEMENT I MADE. I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT WHILE JUDGE BROWNING IS HANDLING BOTH THE CASA CASE AND ALSO WHAT REMAINS OF McLENDEN CASE AND WHILE THE PLAINTIFFS IN THOSE CASES -- LET ME CLARIFY. SOME OF THE PEOPLE AFFECTED IN THOSE CASES OVERLAP. THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS NOT INVOLVED IN THE McLENDEN CASE. I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, I MISSPOKE IN THAT REGARD. COUNCILORS, WE HAVE AN AGENDA WE NEED TO MOVE ON WITH. THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR THE GOOD QUESTIONS AND I THINK THE ATTEMPT TO GET THE DIRECT ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS. IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE. WE ARE IN THIS TOGETHER. LET'S DO WHAT WE CAN DO. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR AGENDA. WE HAVE NO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION TONIGHT. WE'LL MOVE TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. HELLO TO THOSE OF YOU JOINING US TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE CALLED TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IF THEY SIGNED UP FOR LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT. PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA, SPEAKERS WILL BE MOVED INTO THE MEETING ROOM TWO AT A TIME AND REMAIN MUTED WITH THEIR CAMERA OFF UNTIL THEY'RE CALLED UPON TO SPEAK. AT WHICH POINT THEY CAN TURN ON THEIR TAMARA, UNMUTE THEMSELVES AND HAVE ONE AND A HALF MINUTES TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL. AND AFTER THAT THEY'LL BE MUTED AND RETURN AS ON ATTENDEE. EACH PARTICIPANT HAS ONE AND A HALF MINUTES. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ANY DISRUPTIVE COMMENT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE ZOOM WEBINAR. MR. MOYA, PLEASE CALL THE NAMES OF THE FIRST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST SPEAKER IS BRIAN. >> YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR LEWIS AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND COUNCILOR DAVIS BEING ABLE TO PIVOT AND ADAPT TO CURRENT EVENTS. I HAVE A SIMPLE QUESTION. IS CITY ORDINANCE 12-2-3 BEING ENFORCED BY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT? DOES IT NEED TO BE REFORMED? AND IT SAYS IT HAS A $500 FINE OR 90 DAYS IN JAIL. I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE CITATIONS. I VOTED FOR MAYOR KELLER TWICE. BUT ALL I HEARD FROM HIM IS SPINNING. WHERE I LIVE, IT'S OUT OF CONTROL. IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR YEARS. I'LL LET IT GO WITH THAT. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE LEADERSHIP. YOU GAVE ME SOME HOPE. THANK YOU TO CITY COUNCIL. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARIA BROWN. ARE YOU THERE? >> YES. I'M HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> PLEASE PROCEED. >> OKAY. THIS IS ALL NEW. I'VE NEVER DONE ZOOM BEFORE. I'M RETIRED. I ONLY HAVE A QUESTION. WHICH I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET ANSWERED. AND MY QUESTION IS WHY DOES TRAMWAY, WHICH IS STATE ROAD 556, RESTRICT VEHICLES OVER 3 TONS? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANSWERED TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. AT SOME POINT. AND THAT IS IT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE'LL FORWARD THAT TO THE COUNCILOR'S OFFICE THAT REPRESENTS THAT AREA. AND THEY'LL GET BACK TO YOU. >> OKAY. HOW WILL THEY GET BACK TO ME? IS IT EMAIL? PHONE CALL? >> MS. BROWN, WHEN YOU SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT I HAVE YOUR EMAIL AND PHONE NUMBER. WE CAN SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THEM. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PEGGY. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. I'M KEEPING MY SCREEN DARK IN REPRESENTATION OF THE MULTITUDES OF PEOPLE WHO CANNOT GET ON TO THIS ZOOM CALL AND HAVE NOT THE TECHNOLOGY TO DO THAT. COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, FOR THE RECORD, RESPECTFULLY, THERE ARE MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS ALIGNING IN OPPOSITION TO YOU AND A COUNCIL. COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE CALLED ON OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, ON HOAIEST -- AND -- TO PROVIDE CITIZEN OVERSIGHT FOR THIS COUNCIL. WE SEE TRANSGRESSIONS OF BASIC PRINCIPLES. WE ARE DISTURBED BY YOUR INACTION AND CHALLENGES AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S REVIEW POLICIES AT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. AND TO INVEST IN OMC AND THEIR CAPACITY. THE ONLY CONCLUSION WE CAN DRAW, THE ONLY TOOL WE HAVE AS YOU CONTINUE TO TURN A BLIND EYE TO OUR CONCERNS IS THIS COUNCIL'S ACTIVITIES AND MEMBERS MAY NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED. COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE TAKING TO THE STREET, WAGING LEGAL BATTLES, SUBMITTING COMPLAINTS, MAKING REQUESTS FOR INVESTIGATIONS TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE CITY AUDITOR, CITY INSPECTOR GENERAL, AND TO THE NEW MEXICO ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. THESE REQUESTS BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE CHANGES TO ZONE CODE PAST LAST WEEK. TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ORDINANCE AND TO THE PROCESS VIOLATION AT COUNCIL MEETING. SPECIFICALLY, I ASKIOTO REVIEW THE PASSAGE OF 0-22-10. THE IDO ANNUAL UPDATE. I ASK YOU TO ADDRESS THE FLAWS IN THE ANNUAL UPDATE ITSELF. I'M ASKING THAT NO ADDITIONAL LEGISLATION IN REGARD TO ZONING CHANGES. >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> UNTIL THERE'S A PUBLIC VETTING OF THE IDO ANNUAL PROCESS. YOU NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND EVALUATE WHAT TRANSSPIRED. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARIA. ARE YOU THERE? >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME DIRECT ANSWERS FROM OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE. HOW MUCH WILL THIS COST THE TAXPAYERS AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS? FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SECURITY AND THINGS AROUND THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS. CURRENTLY, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE ARE EXPERIENCING THEFT, BREAK-INS, WE COME OUT TO OUR CARS IN THE MORNING, THERE'S WINDOWS BROKEN. BECAUSE WE HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE WANDERING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU MENTIONED THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SECURITY AROUND THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS. WHO WILL, AND WHAT IS THE BUDGET ALLOT TODAY PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITIES FROM THIS HAPPENING? I'M A HOMELESS PERSON AND I WALK OUT OF THE ENCAMPMENTS, WHO WILL PATROL THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO KEEP THEM SAFE? ALSO, BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY EXPERIENCING THIS, WE'RE RIGHT BY THE FREEWAY, WE'RE ALSO CLOSE TO DIFFERENT SERVICES, IF THIS IS SUCH A GREAT IDEA, WHY NOT JUST SET THESE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS AT CORONADO PARK? I'M READY TO HEAR YOUR RESPONSES. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS IS NOT A QUESTIONING OF THE COUNCIL. THIS IS A PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY. I UNDERSTAND. IF IT'S A PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL SAY THAT BASED ON WHAT I'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M COMPLETELY AND 100% OPPOSED TO HAVING HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S NOTHING HAPPENING RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD SHOW ME ANYTHING ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S HAPPENING AT CORONADO PARK THAT WOULD NOT BE PREVENTED FROM HAPPENING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AS A TAXPAYER IN THIS COMMUNITY, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE THE VOTE WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN OUR COMMUNITY. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JULIAN. >> HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> PLEASE PROCEED. >> OKAY. I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCILLOR THAT HAVE STOOD AGAINST THIS HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT. COUNCILOR BASSAN, THANK YOU FOR TAKING BACK HER -- WHAT SHE WAS ACTUALLY STANDING FOR BEFORE. AND I JUST ASK THAT EVERYBODY RELOOK AT THIS AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND A BETTER -- GIVE IT TIME AND MAYBE A YEAR AND FIND A BETTER WAY OF HANDLING THIS RATHER THAN JUST PUSHING IT THROUGH. THAT'S BASICALLY MY COMMENT FOR TODAY. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LARRY. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BENTON, AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE NEW MEXICO BUSINESS COALITION. AND OUR PRESIDENT CARLA WHO EMAILED EACH OF YOU WITH DETAILS OF WHY WE OPPOSE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS. A COUPLE REASONS INCLUDE THE FACT YOU'RE ENDANGERING THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SAY YOU'RE TRYING TO HELP. THE HOMELESS NEED FACILITIES AND ASSISTANCE THAT ALBUQUERQUE TAXPAYERS HAVE AGREED TO PAY FOR BUT YET TO BE DELIVERED. THEY DO NOT TO BE FURTHER ENABLED. WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO WHAT COUNCILOR BASSAN HAS DONE AND LISTENED TO THE OUTCRY FROM THE PUBLIC, PRIVATE CITIZENS, AND BUSINESS OWNERS. WE APPRECIATE COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, COUNCILOR LEWIS, AND COUNCILOR GROUT WHO STOOD AGAST THESE IDEAS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. IF YOU LOO AT THE FACTS, THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES A CAMPS YOU'RE PROPOSING AND HAVE PASSED ALREADY HAVE NOT WORKED IN OTHER CITIES AS THEY HAVE SUPPOSEDTO. WE' HEARD NUMEROUS QUESTIONS THE ADMINISTRATION ABILITY WHY AREN'T EXISTING ORDINANCES BEING FOLLOWE SO ANY PROMISES OF ORD AND RULES AND REGULATIO BEING FOLLOWED FOR GOING FORWD, THE PEOPLE AREN'T BUYING IT. WE KNOW COUNCILORS RECEIVED OR 6,000 EMAILS IN OPPOSITION TO THE PLANS. WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO REPEAL THE OUTDOOR SAFE SPACES AND DO NOT PASS LIVG LOTSR DO ANYTHING ELSE TO INCREASE HOMELESS CAMPS AROUND THE CITY ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU FOR OUR CONSIDERATION OUR COMMENT >> THANYOU, LARRY. >> SHE WILLOTE ABLE TOSPEAK? SPEAK. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SAKER WILL BE LORETTA. GOOD EVENING,OUILOR BEON, AND COUNCIRS, I'M TH PRIDT OF SANTA BARBARA NEIGHBORHO ASSOCIATION. MARTINEZ TOWN WK GROUP ALBUQUERQU INTERFAITH. THE NEIGHBOROD ASSOCIATION RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS THE CITY UNCIL TOPPRO R-22-47. THE MARTINEZ TN SANTA BARBARA MMUNITY CENTE WILL SERVE THE IGHBORHOOD FROM CENTRAL TO CANDELARIA. THE STUDES AT ALBUQUERQUE HIGH SCHOOL WIL HAVE PLACE TO BE AT DURING THE DAY AND PROD MEALS. THEGHBORHOOD ASSIATIN HAS BEEN ORGANIG SCEHE 1990s R COMMUNITY CENTE ONE OF T EORTS IN SEPTEBER 29OR BACA WAS AED TO BUI THEEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNI CENTER. A PITION OF 0'S OF RESEN WA ATTACHE SENATE ORROMERO STATED ITHE RE ETATE LETTERHAT T RTINEZ TO CMUTY CENTER MEMBERSORKE R MANY YEA YIN TO TAIN FUNDINGOR THE CMUNITY CENTER. AN OERD HIS SUPP. HE ALSO OFFEREDISSUPPOR IT'S MOR KELLER WHO GAVE HIS ORD TO THEEIGHBORHO ASSOCIATION T BUILD AMUNITY CENTER A STO HIS WORD WE WT TOIVE MAY KELLERUR APPRECIATION. WET T THANK COUNCIL BENTONORUPPORTING R-22-47 AND STAING BY THE MINITRION MAKEHI EFFOR THEESIDTS A REALY. COUNCILORS, PLEE VOTE -- THANK YOU F THE OPPORTUNIT T EAK. >> TNKYOU NEXT SPEERS SENA. >> HELLO, CANYOU HEAR ME? >>S. >> HI. ,EVERYBODY. I JUST GOT OUTF -- STRUGG MYSELF WIT HOMELESSSS. VE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YESLSOICTION AND MEN JUST CURRELY G OUT OF HABILITATION F TURQUOISE LOGEHICHS A GREAT FACIITY. ANDHEIR TEAM I AWESE. ONE THE PROBLEMS IADAS A ANSITION OUT. VE BEEN HELESS AD MY RECOVEY TRANSITIONING OUT WAS REALLY CHALLENGIN TO FD A PLACEO GO THATERS SINGLE WOME WITUT CHILDREN AD A FAMILY. THERE'S M PROAMS F WOMEN WHO HAVEHILDREN WH THEM O THEIAMILIES THATERE AVLAE. HAD AO OF DOORS CLOSED. I'VEEENORG WITH DRE COUNSEL LKE . ER CERTAIN PLAS THA HAVE THEIR ON RESRCE TO UTILIZE. BECAE I DIDN'T FIT TEIR CRERIA THRCOUNY THEY WANTED TO UTILIZE THE RESOURCES. WASN'T ABLE TO BE ACCTE IN EIR FACILITY. THERE'SOT OF BARRIS IN DIFFERENTOMMUTY AREAS THAT - RESOURCES IN THE COITY THAT AREIHERE'S A LOT O RS. >> THANK Y. YOUR TIME I UP. >> ALSO WANTED TO TALK REALLY QUI ABOUT THE TENT. >> THANK U, YOUR TIM IP. >>COUN. ÑA:'D LIKE TO HAVE HER CONTINUE. >> FROM T TENT. FROM TEN TOAE A SMALL MAYBE TO GET TH TO INTO APARTMTS. RIGHT NOW, I SIGNED PAPERWO FINALLY SINCE 2018 IVE BEEN ON LIST TO BEEPTED FOR AME. I WASN A LOTTERY AND SQUALIFIED BECAUSE OF AN EVICTI. OF BARRIERS.LING WI A LOT I JUST THINK IWOULD BE A ALLY GOODDEA FOR THESE TENTS CILITIES TO BE ABLE TOAVE TRANSITIO AN PEOPLE PUT IN PAC LIKE COUNCILOR BEHAVIORAL HLTH BECAUSE TRE'S A LOT OFEOPLE OUT O THEEETS THATAV MENTAL ISSU ALGITH ADDICTNS ANDT DOES TAKE A MINDSET TO REALLY WANT TO QUIT BUT FOR THE ONES WHO ARE SERIOUS, THEY'LL HAVE THAT FOR THEM TBE ABLE TOTRANSION. FROM ONE PHASE TO ANOTHER. I JUSTTED TO PTHAT IDEA O THANK OU FOR HAVING ME. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU FOR YOU COMMENTS, MR. PRESIDENT. IF I CANINTEECT. ARE YOU STILLTRUGGLING WITH HOUSNGNOW? >> RIGHT NOW, NO. I SIGNED SOME PAPERS. ACTUALLYN FRIDAY, D YESTERDA I HA TO FILL MORE PAPERS OUT. I W ON LIST SINCE 2018 FROM ONE FACILITY AND WHEI WAS AT JOY JUNCTION I WAS IN TIR PROGRAM. I GOT PICKED FOR THE RALE. WHEN I GOT THE ARTMENT AND YOU KNW I HAD THE APARTMENT AND PASSED THE BACKGROUND. T NOTED AND POPPED UP THAT I HAD -- I'M SORRY. I HAD AN ADCTION. THAT DISQUALIFIED ME FROM GETTING THE APARTMENT AND ALSO MY CASE MANAGER FROM THE HOUSI. IT W JUST A MATER OF THE HOUSING ISSUE FOR ME WAS A HUGE BARRIER BECAUSE I HAVE CLEAN TIME PERIODICALLY. BUT ALSO I DIDN'T HE THE RIGHT ENVINMENT. I WAS HAVING THE RIGHT PEOPLE COME INTO MY LIFE TO HELP ME WALK WITH ME, BUT THEN IT WAS HAVING TO GO FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER. JOY JUNCTION BACK TO JOY JUNCTION. JUST DIFFERENT FACILITIES AND BEING GOING TO FAMILY MEMBERS. FAMILY MEMBERS ALSO USE. IT'S JUST THE ENVIRONMENT, THE ATMOSPHERE HAS BEEN REALLY CHALLENGING. I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TODAY THAT I DO HAVE -- I AM ALSO A TAXPAYER. AND I TOTALLY BELIEVE THAT THERE CAN BE THIS FACILITATED IN A WAY THAT CAN HELP THE COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER WITH -- >>COUN. BENTON: MA'AM WE HAVE A TIME LIMIT. YOU CAN'T KEEP GOING ON. THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JAVIER. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU ALL. STAFF AS WELL. JUST WANTED TO JOIN OUR FRIEND LORETTA. I'M WITH ALBUQUERQUE INTERFAITH. AND SANTA BARBARA MARTINEZ TOWN IS AN INSTITUTION. TONIGHT IS A HOPEFUL OCCASION. I KNOW YOU'RE SERVING IN A TRYING TIME BUT YOU HAVE SOMETHING HOPEFUL BY APPROVING RESOLUTION 22-47 WHICH IS PURPOSING OF FEDERAL MONEY COMING TO THE CITY. I THINK IT'S $50 MILLION. THIS WOULD PUT$4 MILLION FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER. IT'S SOMETHING MARTINEZ TOWN HAS BEEN WAITING MANY YEARS. IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S DEALT WITH CHALLENGES. THIS IS A CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING REALLY POSITIVE AND BUILD THE COMMUNITY'S ASSET AND INFRASTRUCTURE. WE JUST -- IT WAS GREAT TO HER HER EMOTION IN THE VOICE BECAUSE I KNOW THE STORY BEHIND THIS AND HOW MUCH WORK IT'S TAKEN. JUST REALLY URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SUZY. >> HELLO. OKAY. GREAT. I'M A CITIZEN LIVING IN THE NORTHEAST AREA OF ALBUQUERQUE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE SAFE OPEN SPACES. THERE WAS THE ADMINISTRATION TALKING ABOUT HOW SAFE THIS PLACE. LET ME ASK YOU, WHY DON'T YOU START WITH CORONADO PARK? CLEAN UP THAT AREA. MAKE THAT OPEN SPACE. AND SHOW US, THE TAXPAYER, WE CAN MAKE IT WORK. AT THIS POINT THOSE CAMPS, THOSE BECOME A CRIME SCENE. IT'S TERRIBLE. I DEFINITELY WANT TO SAY THIS CAMP IDEA DOES NOT WORK. THIS WAS IMPLEMENTED INTO OTHER CITIES AND IT TURNED INTO CRIME-RIDDLED, THIRD-WORLD CITIES. IT'SINATE -- NOT SAFE FOR THE NEIGHBORS OR THE CHILDREN THAT LIVE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ALSO, ANOTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ONE OF THE COUNCIL ASKED A QUESTION DID THE POLICE ARREST PEOPLE WHO COMMIT CERTAIN TIMES, I WANT TO POINT OUT THE ANSWER WAS YES. HOWEVER, THOSE PEOPLE ARE RELEASED TO THE STREET RIGHT AWAY. THEY'RE CATCH AND RELEASE. EVEN THOUGH RIGHT NOW, OUR STREET IS FULL OF CRIME. >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE HOMELESS OPEN SPACE AGENDA. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS RENEE. >> GOOD EVENING. I WANT TO THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, I THINK THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING MEETING. I REALLY APPRECIATED LISTENING TO YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD OF THE OFFICERS AND OFFICIALS FROM THE CITY. I THINK IT WAS REALLY NECESSARY. AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE REEVALUATING THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. AS YOU CAN SEE, OPENING UP TO ALL KINDS OF ZONING THROUGHOUT THE CITY, IT'S A VERY IMPACTFUL TYPE OF LAND USE. I'M NOT SURE THAT'S THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GO. SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE AND LAS CRUCES, IT'S OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER TO DO SOMETHING AS AN EXPERIMENT TO SEE IF IT EVEN WORKS. THEY HAVE 24-HOUR SERVICE AND THEY HAVE FOOD THAT THEY SERVE. AND WE CAN BEEF UP THE SERVICES. THAT'S A SUGGESTION. ALSO, WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE. AND A LOT OF -- WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE, EVERYBODY AGREES THE MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH AND THE DRUG ISSUE AS RELATED TO THE MENTAL HEALTH AS A WAY TO MEDICATE THEMSELVES. MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE GIBSON GATEWAY AS A MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL TO DEAL WITH THAT. ANOTHER SUGGESTION. AND ALSO, AS YOU WERE ASKING QUESTIONS WHAT DO YOU DO WITH FELONY, DO YOU ARREST THEM, AS WE PROBABLY ALL SEEN IN THE PAPER, THE JAIL IS UNDER-STAFFED AND TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE OR WORK THERE, DRUGS RUNS RAMPANT IN THAT JAIL. WE NEED TO -- >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR STAYING ON TOP OF THINGS. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LINDSEY. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH NEW MEXICO CENTER ON LAW AND POVERTY. I'M SPEAK ING REGARD TO TAX PREPARER ORDINANCE. WE PRAISE THE CITY'S ADOPTION OF THE TAX PAPERER'S ORDINANCE. WE STAND IN STRONTIAN OPPOSITION TO THIS COUNCIL EXTENDING THE STAY OF ENFORCEMENT ON THAT ORDINANCE. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CONSUMER PROTECTION MEASURE. IT WAS PASSES WITH UNANIMOUS SUPPORT. AND IT FILLED AN IMPORTANT GAP IN CONSUMER PROTECTIONS. IT WAS PASSED IN ORDER TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY AND ENSURE DISCLOSURE OF FEES AND QUALIFICATION. THE STAY ON ENFORCEMENT PREVENTED THE CITY IN PROVIDING THE CONSUMER PROTECTIONS. DURING THE STAY, THE VAST MAJORITY OF TAX PREPARATIONS ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE. BOTH WITH OUR CITY BUSINESS REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS AND WITH THE ORDINANCE. ONLY ABOUT A QUARTER OF TAX PREPARERS ARE REGISTERED. AND HALF OF THOSE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TAX PREPARERS ORDINANCE. WHEN THIS WAS FIRST PASSED COUNCIL SAID IT WOULD ENACT THE ORDINANCE AND BE ENFORCEABLE, YET WE HAVEN'T SEEN ACTION IN THAT. AND THIS MOST RECENT PROPOSAL WAS TO EXTEND THE SERVICES JUST INTRODUCED THIS PAST FRIDAY. THERE HAS NOT BEEN SUFFICIENT TIME FOR PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS PROPOSAL. FOR THESE REASONS WE ASK FOR COUNCIL'S OPPOSITION TO THE EXTENSION FURTHER. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JERRY. JERRY, ARE YOU THERE? WE'LL COME BACK. NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE GILL. >> GOOD EVENING. PEOPLE NEED -- OPTIONS. TRADITIONAL PERMANENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING WOULD BE IDEAL. IT ALSO REMAINS ASPIRATIONAL. THERE NEVER SEEMS TO BE ENOUGH FUNDS, UNITS, VOUCHERS, AND WILLING LANDLORDS TO HOUSE EVERYONE. IT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE GROWING NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO NEED STABILITY RIGHT NOW. FOLKS WHO ARE DISPLACED AND TRAUMATIZED FURTHER THROUGH ONGOING -- AND THE RESULTING SITUATION. THE HOUSING CRISIS IS AN EMERGENCY INHERITED FROM PREVIOUS LEADERSHIP WHO WERE ALSO OVERWHELMED AND UNWILLING TO ADDRESS IT AS THE EMERGENCY IT SO CLEARLY IS. NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE HAD TO CARRY THE BRUNT OF THE IMPACT WITH NO REAL TIME COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTIONS IN SIGHT. THEY'RE BECOMING INCREASINGLY IMPATIENT WHO LIVE WITHOUT TRADITIONAL WALLS. AS ELECTED OFFICIALS YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOURCONSTITUENTS. NOW IT'S TIME TO TAKE A STAND AND NOT LIS SIMMER AND GROW. THE FOLKS OUTSIDE ARE NOT GOING TO MAGICALLY DISAPPEAR. IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND ALBUQUERQUE AS A WHOLE TO EXPLORE AND ADOPT VIABLE SOLUTIONS NOW. ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. AND SEE YOU NOW JERRY. >> YES. MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I'M JERRY, I MOVED TO ALBUQUERQUE IN 2006. AND IMMEDIATELY WAS GREETED BY MICHAEL ESTORGA RUNNING AROUND. WE HAD THE HELICOPTERS OVER THE HOUSE. WE HAD THE SHOTGUN UNDER THE BED. WE HAD A BREAK IN FIVE DOORS AWAY. A WOMAN HELD AT GUNPOINT. I CALLED THEN COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, WHICH COMING FULL CIRCLE I CALLED OUR CURRENT COUNCILOR SANCHEZ TO EXPRESS MY TOTAL DISBELIEF IN THE WAY THE SHOOTING INTO REARDEN BASEBALL STADIUM WAS HANDLED LAST NIGHT. THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM. BULLETS CAN CARRY MUCH FURTHER THAN THE STADIUM ITSELF. AND THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE IS SHOOTING INTO THE STADIUM AND CHILDREN ARE PRESENT AND BULLETS ARE FLYING AROUND THEM AND THE POLICE CHOSE OR WERE INSTRUCTED NOT TO DETAIN THESE TWO BOYS THAT WERE FOUND WITH A GUN IN THE GLOVE COMPARTMENT IS THE WRONG WAY TO HANDLE IT. I URGE YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, TO STOP THE AGENDA AND PROCEED WITH HOW ARE WE GOING TO DEAL WITH THIS. BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS WILL HAVE TO. I OFFERED MY SERVICES AND AS MANY OF YOU KNOW I'M ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY SINCE I MOVED HERE IN 2006. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE TO ME. WE FORMED A NEIGHBORHOOD PATROL. WE SENT TWO NEIGHBORS TO THE POLICE ACADEMY. WE CAN REACTIVATE THE PATROL. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS PEOPLE WILL DO, BUT WE NEED LEADERSHIP AND YOU NEED TO PROVIDE IT TO US AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS SITUATION HAPPENED AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO RESOLVE IT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, FOR SPENDING THE TIME WITH ME THIS MORNING. I HOPE WE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO ASK DEPUTY CHIEF IN REFERENCE TO WHAT HAPPENED OUT THERE. THIS IS THE SECOND INCIDENT THAT INVOLVES JUVENILS AND THERE WAS NOT AN ARREST MADE. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE KNOW WHY WE'RE NOT MAKING THE ARREST. WE HAD ONE INCIDENT AT VOLCANO VISTA AND WE HAVE THIS INCIDENT WITH OTHER JUVENILES. I BELIEVE THESE INDIVIDUALS WERE UNDER THE AGE TO ACTUALLY POSSESS A WEAPON. THEY WERE MINORS IN POSSESSION. YET, THEY WERE NOT ARRESTED. >> I CAN TAKE THAT QUESTION. I'M SORRY, YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE ARRESTED OR NOT? >>COUN. BENTON: YES, THAT'S THE QUESTION. >> UNDER THE JUVENILE STATUTE IS THEY HAVE TO MEET A CRITERIA FOR US TO ARREST UNDER THE STACHITUTE. EVEN IF WE HAVE CHARGES, THERE'S TIMES WHERE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO JAIL EVEN IF THEY HAVE A GUN. WE HAD A JUVENILE AT ONE OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS WHERE IT WAS THE SAME THING. HE WAS CAUGHT IN POSSESSION OF THE GUN. WE MADE CONTACT -- THAT GOT FORWARDED TO THE JDC. NO ARREST WAS MADE IN THAT CASE EITHER. THERE'S CERTAIN CASES WHERE THAT DECISION IS NOT MADE BY LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET THEM DETAINED. >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION? >>COUN. BENTON: NO. WE'RE NOT GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR ROUND-ROBIN QUESTION. ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THE FOLLOW UP TO THAT QUESTION IS, DO THE OFFICERS HAVE DISCRETION AT ALL TO MAKE AN ARREST ANYMORE? IS THAT TOTALLY TAKEN OVER BY THE D.A.'S OFFICE? WHEN I WAS THE POLICE OFFICER WE HAD THE DISCRETION TO MAKE THE ARREST THEN THAT INDIVIDUAL, EVEN IF THEY STAYED AT THE INSTITUTION, IF THEY STAYED AT THE DETENTION CENTER FOR ONE HOUR. THEY THE ARREST WAS MADE, THEY WERE IN THE POLICE CAR AND AT THAT POINT THE REST OF THE SYSTEM WAS USED. AND I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY THE WAY IT WORKED BACK THEN. I WANT TO SEE WHY WE COULDN'T MAKE AN ARREST AND GET ONE OF THE CASE, AND ALSO IS THERE NO -- DO THE OFFICERS NOT HAVE DISCRETION AT ALL TO MAKE THE ARREST? >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. IN THOSE CASES WHERE IT'S A JUVENILE, IF IT'S AN ADULT WE HAVE DISCRETION TO MAKE THAT ARREST. THE WAY IT'S NOW, AND IT'S A NATIONAL PRACTICE, THEY'RE DOING LESS HARM NOT MAKING A ARREST. CYFD GOVERNS THE RULES WHEN WE CAN AND CANNOT MAKE AN ARREST. WE CAN ARREST FOR THE INVESTIGATION. BUT AS FAR AS BOOKING THEM INTO JDC, THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY JUVENILE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, DC BROWN. ONE OF THE THINGS GOING ON NOW IS THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS VERY, VERY UPSET ABOUT POLICE AND APD NOT MAKING THESE ARRESTS AND NOT ACTUALLY DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. WE ALWAYS HEAR THAT WE CAN MAKE ARRESTS BUT WE NEVER SEE ARRESTS BEING MADE. AND THAT'S VERY, VERY CONCERNING TO ME. AND CONCERNING TO THE PUBLIC. IT'S OBVIOUS THAT WHOEVER WAS FIRING ROUNDS HAD TO HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY DIRECTING THOSE ROUNDS BECAUSE THEY WERE IMPACTING ON THE FIELD. THEY WERE IMPACTING THE STRUCTURES OF THE FIELD. AND THEY'RE VERY NARROWLY MISSING INDIVIDUALS PLAYING PAUL ON THE FIELD AND THE CITIZENS WATCHING THE BALL GAME. AND IT'S VERY, VERY DISTURBING TO ME THAT WE DID NOT MAKE AN ARREST AND WHY WE CAN'T. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING IF IT'S OUR COURTS THAT ARE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS, THEN THE COURTS NEED TO MAKE SOME PROVISIONS TO MAKE SURE WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME CONSEQUENCES FOR THESE TYPES OF ACTIONS. I'LL SEE DOING SOME FOLLOW UP AS WELL. IN REFERENCE TO SEE EVERYTHING THAT YOU TOLD ME IS CORRECT. THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS RUDOLPH. YOU'RE MUTED. BRING THE MICROPHONE CLOSER. IT'S VERY LOW. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING COVERING YOUR MICROPHONE. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE SOMETHING COVERING YOUR MICROPHONE. >> SORRY, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU AT ALL. WE HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR ANOTHER ITEM ON THE AGENDA LATER. POSSIBLY THAT WILL WORK BETTER. LATER ON. THANK YOU. MR. GILBERT, I SAW YOU WITH YOUR HAND RAISED. THIS IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU'RE SIGNED UP FOR A BILL LATER IN THE AGENDA. HOWEVER, IF YOU WANT TO GET YOUR COMMENT OUT OF THE WAY NOW, WE'LL ALLOW TO DO THAT. >> MY NAME IS GILBERT, AND I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN MARTINEZ TOWN. I WANT CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE R-47. OUR REASON IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN UNDERSERVED. OUR SENIOR CITIZENS DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF SERVICES AS WELL AS OUR CHILDREN IN THE AREA. A LOT OF YOU CITY COUNCILLORS THAT REPRESENT YOUR AREAS YOU ENJOY OR YOUR CONSTITUENTS ENJOY A LOT OF FACILITIES LIKE COMMUNITY CENTERS, DANCES, SERVICES FOR THE SENIORS. MARTINEZ TOWN, I'M 66 YEARS OLD, AND SINCE I WAS BORN I'VE BEEN WISHING FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER. SO WE CAN GO AND ENJOY OURSELVES AND TRY TO LEARN LEADERSHIP SKILLS AND TRY TO BE EMPLOYED WITH THE CITY. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MARTINEZ TOWN FINALLY GET PUT ON THE MAP OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE ARE HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE A HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND GET SUPPORTED AS THAT. WE DESERVE THE SAME RESPECT AS OLD TOWN DOES BECAUSE WE'RE NEIGHBORS OF THEM. AND WE SHARE THE SAME HISTORY. PLEASE PASS R-22-47. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A 20-MINUTE BREAK, COUNCILORS. AND WHEN WE GET SOMETHING WE'LL BE BACK IN 20 MINUTES. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK FROM OUR BREAK. WE'RE MOVING TO THE ADMINISTRATION QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. WE HAD A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS BEFORE, NOW WE HAVE IT OPEN FOR OTHER MATTERS. WE'LL START WITH COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE BIO PARK. I HOPE SOMEONE CAN ANSWER THEM. I SEE MR. GIBSON. LET ME START WITH ASKING, WHAT'S THE POINT OF THE HERITAGE FARM EXHIBIT AT THE BIO PARK? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, GOOD EVENING. I THINK THE HERITAGE FRAM EXHIBITION AT THE BIO PARK TEACHES NATIVE NEW MEXICANS AND OUT OF STATE VISITORS A LOT ABOUT LOCAL FLORA, FAUNA, POLLINATORS. AND FARMS FROM THE TRIBES, TO THE SPANISH SETTLERS, AND ANGLO SETTLERS, A LOOK AT WHAT NEW MEXICO LOOKED LIKE A HUNDRED YEARS AGO AND A LOOK AT LOCAL HABITAT. SGLA. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: HOW MANY ANIMALS DO YOU HAVE HELD CAPTIVE AT THE HERITAGE FARM? >> I WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT EXACT NUMBER FOR YOU, COUNCILOR. ANIMALS IN HUMAN CARE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: CUT KIND OF VET CARE DO THEY RECEIVE? >> SAME AS ANY OTHER ANIMAL AT THE BIO PARK. THE CHICKENS, THE SHEEP, THE HORSE, THE CATTLE, ARE UNDER THE SAME RULES AND GUIDELINES. THEY HAVE BIRD CURATOR, MAMMAL CURATOR, AND VET STAFF THAT TAKE CARE OF THE ANIMALS DAILY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: FASCINATING. IF YOU CAN SHOW A COUPLE PICTURES I SENT. ONE WOULD ASSUME, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ALL ANIMALS UNDER ANY ACCREDITATION SHOULD RECEIVE FRESH WATER AT ALL TIMES, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT WAS TAKE ON THE FIFTH. THAT WAS THE ONLY WATER AVAILABLE IN THE TURKEY EXHIBIT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I WENT ON THE 14th, THE VISIT ON THE 5th WAS AT 12:45. I WENT ON THE 14th AND THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS OF THAT TIME, AGAIN, FILTHY WATER. AND IN BOTH OF THOSE VISITS THERE WAS NO WATER AVAILABLE FOR THE SHEEP. PERIOD. I WOULD ASSUME THAT IS NOT OKAY. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT OKAY WITH ME. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BE REMEDIED. THERE'S A SIGN AT THE HERITAGE FARM EXHIBIT THAT SAYS THAT CLEAN, FRESH WATER IS AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES. IT'S CLEARLY NOT THE CASE AND UNACCEPTABLE. COULD YOU GO TO THE NEXT PICTURES? THESE ARE THE PICTURES OF THE CHICKENS. THEY'RE ALL MISSING FEATHERS. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. I SENT THESE PICTURES TO EXPERTS WHO RUN ANIMAL SANCTUARIES, PLACES THAT GET RESCUES THAT ARE SENT TO LIVE OUT THEIR LIVES. EVERYONE RESPONDED BACK WITH WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BUT IT'S NOT GOOD. THERE'S THREE REASONS I'VE BEEN TOLD ALL THE CHICKENS COULD HAVE THIS BAD OF MISSING FEATHERS. IT'S EITHER A BAD RATIO OF MALE TO FEMALE AND THEY'RE PECKING EACH OTHER. IT'S STRESS. AND THEY'RE PECKING THEMSELVES. OR IT'S A BAD DIET. WHEN I WENT, THERE WAS ONLY THE PELLET. THERE WAS NO GREENS, FRUITS, VEJJIES, NO WORMS, NOTHING BUT THE REGULAR -- IS THAT THE DIET FOR THEM AT THE EXHIBIT? >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THE DIET FOR THE CHICKENS AT THE HERITAGE FARM ARE RICH IN CALCIUM. THEY INCLUDE SPINACH. THERE IS PELLETS AND THEY RECEIVE ENRICHMENT. THEY GET FREE RANGE IN THE HERB FIELDS AND PECK ON INSECTS. TO ADDRESS THE MOLTING ISSUE. THAT IS A COMBINATION OF FACTORS AND OUR VET TEAM HAS BEEN KEEPING CLOSE EYE ON IT. A LOT OF THE CHICKENS ARE HERITAGE BREEDS. THEY'RE OLDER. THEY'RE PAST THE TYPICAL LIFE EXPECTANCY SPAN OF THOSE BREEDS. THESE CHICKENS HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH SOME MICE AND BEHAVIOR FROM THE PECKING THAT INCREASES IN THE HOTTER MONTHS. THE CHICKENS ARE ON AN MEDICINE TO HELP ADDRESS THE MOLTING AS WELL AS RECEIVING TOPCOLOTOMY OINTMENTS. WHEN ONE IS LOWER IN THE PECKING ORDER AND GETTING PECKED FREQUENTLY, WE DEFINITELY SEPARATE THOSE CHICKENS OUT. SO THEY CAN PROPERLY RECOVER AND NOT BE UNDER STRESS OR INJURY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IF YOU'RE MISSING ALL THE FEATHERS ON YOUR BACK AND YOU'RE STILL IN THE FLOCK, THEN ARE THEY CONSIDERED RECOVERED? ARE THEY CONSIDERED RECOVERED? >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, LIKE I SAID, THESE ANIMALS ARE UNDER VETERINARY CARE. THEY HAVE BEEN RECEIVING CARE. THERE'S TOPICAL OINTMENTS AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING TOWARD TO CORRECT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NOT RECOVERED, YET IN THE SAME SITUATION THEY'RE IN. CAN YOU PROGRESS TO THE NEXT ONE? THIS IS THE PHOTOGRAPH OF ONE OF THE ROOSTERS WITH EXTREMELY OVERGROWN SPURS. AND HE'S MISSING HIS TAIL. I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW, HAS HE SEEN A VET OR DUG ANYTHING ABOUT THIS SITUATION. OR IS THAT LIKE THE OTHERS AND HE'S UNDER TREATMENT AND HOPEFULLY SEE IF HE GETS BETTER AT SOME POINT? >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I DID NOT HAVE THE BIO PARK VET STAFF WITH US. FEEL FREE TO SEND US THESE QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE WE CAN HAVE OUR TEAM AND THE RIGHT REPRESENTATIVE AS OPPOSED TO HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION. IF YOU LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH ME, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY. SEND THE PHOTOS AND THE QUESTIONS AND HAVE OUR VET TEAM GATHER A STATUS UPDATE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WE'LL FOLLOW UP. I THINK THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE BIO PARK. THESE ARE THE TURKEYS. YOU SEE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS MISSING FEATHERS. AND ON THE VISIT ON THE 5th OF JUNE, SOMEONE WAS WITNESSING THEY WERE PULLING OUT THEIR OWN FEATHERS. WHICH BY THE EXPERTS I SPOKEN TO SAID THERE'S EXTREME STRESS HAPPENING. AGAIN, EVERY SINGLE TURKEY HAS THIS PROBLEM. NEXT SLIDE. ALSO, ON DISPLAY ARE A SERIES OF A BUNCH OF SEEP. AGAIN, ON THE VISIT MY PERSONAL VISIT ON THE 14th THERE WAS NO WATER. I WAS THERE FOR 45 MINUTES. IT WAS SO HOT MY PHONE OVERHEATED AND I WAS UNABLE TO TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS. YET THESE ANIMALS WERE WITHOUT WATER. NOT APPROPRIATE. ON A VISIT IN MAY, A CITIZEN WITNESSED ONE OF THE SHEEP WHO WAS LYING DOWN AND SHE DEFECATED HERSELF WITHOUT STANDING UP. WHICH DEFINITELY MEANS THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FOR SURE WHEN THE LAST TIME THEY HAD A VETERINARY VISIT WAS. NEXT SLIDE. THERE'S ALSO A HORSE BEING HELD THERE. WE WITNESSED HE HAS A FLY MASK ON WHICH SEEMS TO BE IRRITATING HIM. HE HAS AN OPEN STORE UNDER HIS STRAP. HE WAS WITNESSED LICKING THE WALLS. THERE WAS EXCREMENT RUNNING DOWN HIS LEG. HE'S LIMPING. AND HE'S IN AN ENCLOSURE THAT IS UNSANDED LOGS WHICH IS NOT THE BEST FOR HORSE WELL-BEING. NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE THE ENCLOSURES THEY'RE IN. AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE MOSTLY UNSHADED. THERE'S AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE SHADE ON THE LEFT ONE. AS YOU CAN SEE WHEN IT'S HOT OUTSIDE NO ONE IS COMING OUT OF THE SMALL ENCLOSURES. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE VIEW FROM INSIDE. I JUST QUESTION THE VALUE OF HAVING THE ANIMALS ON DISPLAY WHEN YOU WALK IN AND YOU HAVE TO SLIDE YOUR PHONE BETWEEN THE SLOTS TO TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS. I DON'T SEE HOW THIS DISPLAY IS HELPING THE MISSION OF THE BIO PARK WHICH I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION WAS CONSERVATION AND RESEARCH PROVIDING A COMPREHENSIVE ENVIRONMENTAL PARK FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS HELPFUL. I AM REQUESTING OFFICIALLY THAT THESE ANIMALS BE SEEN BY A VETERINARIAN. NOT THE ONES CARING FOR THEM NOW. I WOULD LIKE AN INDEPENDENT IF THEY'RE OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO BE PRESENT AT THAT VISIT. AND I WOULD LIKE A PLAN TO RELEASE THEM TO SANCTUARY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE CARE THEY NEED. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. NEXT IS COUNCILOR SANCHEZ WITH A QUESTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MY QUESTION IS FOR MR. RAEL. I HAVE REASON TO DRIVE BY CENTRAL AND TINGLY WHERE THE YOUNG BOY WAS KILLED BY MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT. THAT IS A PRETTY BUSY INTERSECTION. AND FOR MAYBE A COUPLE WEEKS THERE WAS A SIGN OUT THERE THAT SAID TO SLOW DOWN IN REFERENCE TO THE TRAFFIC SITUATION. THAT SIGN HAS BEEN REMOVED. I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY. IT'S ALREADY BEEN FIVE MONTHS SINCE HIS PASSING. AND NOTHING REALLY HAS BEEN DONE EXCEPT FOR ONE SIGN THAT WAS PUT OUT THERE. AND NOW IT'S GONE. MY QUESTION IS WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET TRAFFIC CALMING SIGNS, ET CETERA, IN THAT AREA? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER, WE HAVE LOTS OF PEOPLE ON THE WEEKENDS AND IN THE AFTERNOONS AND EVENINGS WALKING THAT SAME PATH EVERY SINGLE DAY ACROSSING CENTRAL. >>COUN. BENTON: MR. RAEL, ARE YOU THERE? >> I APOLOGIZE, I WAS TALKING TO MR MONTOYA. HE CAN GIVE US SIGNS UPDATE. AND WHAT WE'RE DOING AS IT RELATES TO TRAFFIC CALMING. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I APOLOGIZE I'M RUNNING DOWN THE HALL. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I'M NOT SURE -- I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR FIRST PART OF THE THE QUESTION. IT HAD TO DO WITH THE TRAILER? AT NEW YORK AND CENTRAL. AND THE SECOND IS THE PERMANENT SIGN. I THINK WE HAVE SENT YOU A MESSAGE THAT THOSE WERE ORDERED. THERE'S A BACKLOG AS FAR AS TIME TO PROVIDE THE SIGNALS AND SIGNS PUTTING UP. THOSE ARE EXPECTED TO BE BY THE LAST PART OF JULY. WE HAVE ONE GOING EAST BOUND AND WESTBOUND. IN ADDITION WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS WE HAVE STRIPING AT NEW YORK AND STRIPING AT TINGLY. AND I THINK YOU WOULD ASKED FOR US TO LOOK AT SPEED TABLES OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS. WE'VE DETERMINED BECAUSE CENTRAL IS A BUSY CORRIDOR THERE REALLY AREN'T ANY MEASURES OF THAT SORT WE CAN INSTALL IN THAT AREA. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT IF YOUR QUESTION WAS THE TRAILER REMOVED. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS OR WASN'T AS OF THIS MORNING. I WILL FIND OUT FOR YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: AS OF LAST WEEK SOMETIME THE TRAILER HAS BEEN GONE. IT'S BEEN GONE FOR AT LEAST A WEEK. RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOTHING AT ALL AT THAT INTERSECTION. AND ON THE WEEKENDS, FRIDAY AFTERNOONS, EVEN IN THE EVENINGS. THERE'S PEOPLE CRASHING BACK AND FORTH. IT'S STILL EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AREA. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AND AT LEAST KEEP THE TRAILER THERE. I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY AT LEAST HELPING. UNTIL BE GET SOME PERMANENT TRAFFIC-CALMING MEASURES. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANOTHER INCIDENT HAPPENED. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE CROSSING THE STREET. IF YOU CAN LET ME KNOW WHY THE TRAILER WAS REMOVED, I'D APPRECIATE IT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I WILL HAVE THAT ANSWER FOR YOU TOMORROW MORNING. IN ADDITION, I MIGHT ADD ONE OF THE SPEED CAMERAS IS SCHEDULED FOR INSTALLATION THERE. THAT IS ON ORDERED. THE REMAINING FOUR OR FIVE, MAKING A TOTAL OF TEN. WE SHOULD HAVE THAT BY MID-SUMMER. AGAIN, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I WILL GET AN ANSWER FOR YOU ON THAT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, FOR BRINGING THIS UP. I HAD ASKED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THE SPEED CAMERA. IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT IS IN THE WORKS. I DO -- I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE CRITERIA ON THIS SPEED TABLE. IT SEEMS LIKE THE INTERSECTION AT NEW YORK AND TINGLY, BUT ESPECIALLY NEW YORK AND CENTRAL WHERE PEOPLE COME AROUND THAT BEND AND SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CALMING SUN SULTANTS SAY PEOPLE ACTUALLY ACCELERATE WHEN THEY SEE A BEND. AND THEY STEP ON IT AND GO AROUND THAT BEND. IT FEELS GREAT TO THEM OR WHATEVER. THE SPEEDS ARE -- I THINK IF WE'RE TO DO A SPEED STUDY IT WOULD BE ASOUNDING THE SPEEDS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE ENGINEERING IF WE CAN DO THE SPEED TABLE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION NOW, DIRECTOR. LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT SOME MORE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CRITERIA AND GET A SECOND OPINION. MY OLD JOKE IS, ENGINEERS ARE LIKE LAWYERS, CAN PRETTY MUCH GET ONE TO SAY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ONE TO SAY. IT'S NOT A FUNNY JOKE WHEN SOMEBODY DIED IN THAT AREA. I DO QUESTION WHETHER WE CAN DO WITH VERTICAL TRAFFIC-CALMING. I WANT TO REPORT ON MY OWN, I WORKED WITH THE BIO PARK ON GETTING TREES PLACED IN FRONT OF THE AQUARIUM. I THINK THAT WILL HELP. I KNOW SOMEBODY RID KULD CULED RIDICULED THAT. IT'S PROVEN AS TRAFFIC CALMING. THEY WILL SAY TREES ARE EFFECTIVE. THANKS FOR BRINGING UP, COUNCILOR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? IF NOT, WE'LL GO ON. COUNCILOR LEWIS, THE JOURNAL. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU. MOTION AND SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 6th JOURNAL. WE'LL GO BACK TO ROLL CALL. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0 ON APPROVAL OF JOURNAL. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? I HAVE A COUPLE. I'LL MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING EC98 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S THE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH GUIDE HOUSE FOR ARPA FUND MANAGEMENT SERVICES. THIS REQUIRES A TWO-THIRDS VOTE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WRES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BENTON: I'D LIKE TO STATE THAT SUSPENSION DOES REQUIRE A TWO-THIRD MAJORITY VOTE. AS DOES THE NEXT ONE. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING EC99. IT'S ARROW CHARTER AND TRANSPORT INCORPORATED HANGER LEASE AGREEMENT. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING R-55 FOR ACTION. IT EXTENDS THE STAY OF ENFORCEMENT OF THE TAX PAPERER. >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL SECOND THAT. AGAIN, THIS SUSPENSION REQUIRES TWO-THIRD VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: NO. >> PASSES 7-2. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I ALSO MOVE THAT MAKE A MOTION R-38 BE PULLED OUT OF THE LAND USE ZONING AND PLACED ON THE AUGUST 1 JOUNCEAL AGENDA. THAT'S DSIGNAING UNIVERSITY AREA. >>COUN. JONES: SECOND THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES, I BELIEVE IT WAS. THANK YOU. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BENTON: NEXT IS COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTRODUCING R-56 AND PLACING ON THE AUGUST 1 COUNCIL AGENDA. IT'S ESTABLISHING MORATORIUM FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AS REGULATED FOR 12 MONTHS OR UNTIL THE DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE SUMENDED. WHICHEVER OCCURS FIRST. >>COUN. BENTON: IS THERE A SECOND? >>COUN. LEWIS: SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. AND MS. ORTEGA TO CALL THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: NO. >> THAT MOTION FAILS ON A 5-4 VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: NEXT IS COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOVE THE RULES BE SPUS PENDED FOR IT'S AMENDING SECTION 14-16 THE INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE TO REMOVE ALL REFERENCE TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: NO. >> MOTION FAILS ON A 5-4 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. MS. ORTEGA TO CALL THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> MOTION PASSES 8-1. >>COUN. BENTON: NOW WE'RE ON TO REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MET ON TUESDAY JUNE 14 AND REPORTS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. IN THE MATTER OF OC-6, THAT RECEIPT BE NOTED. IN THE MATTER OF O-31 THAT A DUE PASS AS AMENDED. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL MOVE TO DEFERRALS AND WITHDRAWAL. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, O-29 IS AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BOND SERIES 2022 IN THE MAXIMUM PRINCIPLE AMOUNT OF $95 MILLION. I MOVE DEFERRAL UNTIL AUGUST 1. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION FOR DEFERRAL AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. THANK YOU. MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M SORRY. NEVER MIND. MY APOLOGIES. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE. FOR THE INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA WHO ARE BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR BASSAN SECONDS THAT'S MOTION. MS. ORTEGA TO CALL THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> MOTION PASSES 8-1. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THE ALBUQUERQUE BERNALILLO COUNTY GOVERNMENT COMMISSION PLUS APS MEETING SCHEDULED FOR THURSDAY JUNE 23rd IS CONSLED. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARING. WE'LL MOVE TO APPROVALS. ITEM A, EC-66. REVENUE AND EXPENSE REPORT FOR SECOND QUARTER FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND QUARTERLY SAVINGS USE REPORT. I MOVE THAT RECEIPT BE NOTED. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILORS? IF NOT, MS. ORTEGA TO CALL THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BENTON: NEXT IS EC-92 APPOINTMENT OF LAUREN KEEF TO CITY ATTORNEY. I MOVE CONFIRMATION. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? IF NOT, I CERTAINLY WANT TO HEAR FROM MS. KEEF. >> YES, THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILORS. I REALLY AM HAPPY TO BE HERE. SINCE I HAVE BEEN AT THE CITY I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH SOME OF YOU AND MEET WITH SOME OF YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF ALL OF YOU KNOW MY BACKGROUND. I WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF A LITTLE BIT. I GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO SCHOOL OF LAW IN 2001. AND I SPENT MOST OF MY CAREER AT A PRIVATE FIRM IN ALBUQUERQUE. I DID LITIGATION AND ONLY LITIGATION. I DIDN'T SPECIALIZE. OVER THE 16 YEARS I WAS THERE, I DID A WIDE VARIETY OF CASES. WHICH I EVENTUALLY CAME TO LEARN WITH EXCELLENT TRAINING. IT SET ME UP TO BE ABLE TO DELVE INTO A NEW TOPIC AND AN AREAS I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT. IT'S BEEN HELPFUL BECAUSE I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW EVERY TOPIC THAT FROM MUNICIPAL LAW. IT'S HELPFUL THAT THE CITY IS PRESENTED WITH AREAS THAT THE OFFICE HAS NOT HAD TO DEAL WITH. I FIND THAT SKILL USEFUL APPLYING HERE AT THE CITY. I DID COMPLAINT CASES AT THAT FIRM. THAT'S BEEN HELPFUL. WE WORK ON EMPLOYMENT AREAS. I HANDLE COMPLEX CLASS ACTIONS. AND SOME OF MY FINAL CASES WERE HELPING THE STATE FIGHT TAX REFUND CLAIMS FOR LARGE INTERNATIONAL CLAIMS OF CORPORATIONS TRYING NOT TO PAY NEW MEXICO GROSS RECEIPTS TAX. I WAS ABLE TO PREVENT THAT HAPPENING TO THE STATE. I CAME TO THE CITY IN JANUARY. I PRIMARILY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE POLICY DIVISION. AND WORKING ON ISSUES RELATED TO THE CASA AND WORKING CLOSELY AND DIRECTLY WITH APD WHICH HAS BEEN VERY REWARDING AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM TO HELP DEVELOP A STRATEGY COME TO AN END WITH THE CASA. I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT A TWO-YEAR PLAN TO FIND OUR WAY INTO COMING FULL COMPLIANCE. I'VE ALSO BEEN DELIGHTED TO WORK WITH THE TEAM OF ATTORNEYS. I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH THEIR WORK AND SKILLS. I'M EXCITED TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THEM IN THE FUTURE. I DON'T HAVE PLANS FOR ANY KIND OF GRAND OVERHAUL FOR CITY LEGAL. I WANT TO KEEP US MOVING FORWARD AND MAKE SURE CITY LEGAL PROVIDES HIGH QUALITY LEGAL SERVICES TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL AND THE CITY AS A WHOLE. I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON TRAINING. OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS I KNOW MR. AGUILAR BRINGING NEW ATTORNEYS AND INCREASING ATTORNEYS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF OUTSIDE HELP CONTRACTS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TRAIN THOSE NEW ATTORNEYS SO WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT TO SUSTAIN THAT MODEL HE DEVELOPED. I WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE USING. I THINK PERHAPS THERE'S SOME TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE FOR CITY OF OUR SIZE AND CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT. I WANT TO LOOK AT THAT BALANCE OF OUTSIDE COUNSEL. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY PRETTY GOOD. WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT BALANCE FOR THE CITY. I WANT TO IDENTIFY WAYS WE CAN TINE PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY LEGAL SERVICES FOR THE CITY. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MS. KEEF. WE HAVE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS FOLLOWED BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I DON'T THINK YFRB I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I WANT TO ENDORSE HER. I'VE KNOWN HER THROUGH ALL KINDS OF OTHER PLACE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND ALWAYS FOUND HER TO BE EXCELLENT AND WAS ENCOURAGED TO TO SHE JOINED THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SPECIFICALLY, SHE REALLY BROUGHT INTO HELP US HELP OUR GAME ON THE DOJ AND CASA PROJECT AND SOME OF THE DELINQUENCY IN OUR COMPLIANCE. I THINK SOME OF THE WORK AND OUR APPROACH WITH DOJ AND COLLEAGUES, NOT SOLELY YOURS, BUT SOME OF THE NEW TALENT AND SOME OF THE FOLKS WITH LOTS OF EXPERIENCE. I THINK YOU HELP GUIDE THAT TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL. I APPRECIATE IT. I THINK THE RESULTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. I'M EXCITED TO SEE US CONTINUING TO DO THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS NOMINATION. I THINK SHE'S AN EXCELLENT CITY ATTORNEY. AS WE ALWAYS SAY, WE WANT TO REMIND THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT THEY WORK FOR THE CITY. AS YOU WELL KNOW. YOU'RE NOT COMING IN WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF EXPERIENCE. REALLY PROVIDING SOMETIMES UNCOMFORTABLE AND UNPOPULAR ADVICE TO CITY COUNCIL, AND TO THE MAYOR AND VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS WHEN THEY DON'T AGREE. THAT'S THE MOST CHALLENGING PART OF THE JOB. I HOPE YOU CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH US, WITH THE MAYOR, AND DEPARTMENTS AND HELP US NAVIGATE. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAD OCCASION TO HAVE MS. KEEF IN MY OFFICE FOR PROBABLY ABOUT TWO HOURS RECENTLY. AND WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION. I ASKED HER SOME VERY HARD QUESTION CANS IN REFERENCE TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND HOW SEVERAL THINGS WERE GOING. I GOT A LOT OF I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. PROBABLY ABOUT THREE OR FOUR QUESTIONS I ASKED. AND I CAN PULL MY NOTES AND SPECIFICALLY GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION. THAT WILL TAKE SOME TIME. I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR MS. KEEF SINCE IN MY OPINION DEALING WITH THE ELECTIONS INTEGRITY IN THE CITY AND OUR CITY GOVERNMENT ARE EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. MS. KEEF, FOR SUCH A POSITION OF POWER AND SERVING THE PEOPLE AFTER HER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MAYOR KELLER RELATIONSHIP AND CITY CLERK EITHER WATSON, AND SHE WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THAT. SHE WAS THE MAYOR'S PERSONAL ELECTION ATTORNEY. SHE PUSHED THE MAYOR'S POLITICAL AGENDA, WHICH I FELT SPECIFICALLY. I KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE CORRUPTION IS HAPPENING. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THESE KINDS OF THINGS HAPPEN AGAIN. I THINK -- I CALLED IT OUT. I'VE SAID IT. WE HAD CITY CLERK AND A CITY ATTORNEY WHO DIDN'T DO THEIR JOB. WHEN I WAS NEEDING TO BE APPOINTED. I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS SOME TIES IN BECAUSE OF HER BEING MAYOR'S ATTORNEY DURING THE ELECTION. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE THE TRANSPARENCY WE NEED BY HAVING HER IN OFFICE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT. WOULD YOU DESCRIBE YOUR APPROACH IF YOU WERE NOMINATED AS CITY ATTORNEY, YOUR APPROACH TO THE CONSENT DECREE AND SPECIFICALLY YOUR ROLE IN HELPING TO BRING ABOUT AN END TO THAT AGREEMENT? >> SURE. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR LEWIS. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE REMAINING PARAGRAPH. WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE. THERE'S 81 OR 82 PARAGRAPHS. AND DIVIDING THEM INTO CATEGORIES. SOME WHERE WE THINK WE NEED CLARIFICATION AND THE LANGUAGE OF THE PARAGRAPH ITSELF. SOME WHERE WE BELIEVE WE NEED CLARIFICATION FROM THE MONITOR AS TO WHY IT IS WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE AND WHAT IT IS WE NEED TO DO TO GET IN COMPLIANCE. AND THERE'S SOME WHERE APD NEEDS TO WORK ON GETTING INTO COMPLIANCE. AND WITHIN THAT THERE'S TWO CATEGORIES. WE HAVE HIRED A NEW DIRECTOR OF DATA. AND SOME OF THOSE PARAGRAPHS WE ACTUALLY BELIEVE WE'RE COMPLYING. BUT THAT APD CANNOT YET GENERATE DATA THAT WOULD SHOW THE COMPLIANCE. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WORKING ON DEVELOPING A SYSTEM SO WE CAN CREATE DATA AND SHOW THE COMPLIANCE. AND ON SOME OTHERS WE NEED TO CONTINUE WORKING TOWARD COMPLIANCE INTERNALLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: IN YOUR OPINION, WOULD YOU PUT A TIMELINE ON HOW YOU SEE AN END TO THE DECREE? >> THE CHIEF SAID PUBLICLY HE'S HOPING FOR TWO YEARS. WHICH IS REALLY THREE MORE MONITORING PERIODS AFTER THIS CURRENT MONITORING PERIOD. THIS ONE IS HALFWAY OVER. AND THAT'S THE GOAL THAT WE ESTABLISHED. AND I THINK THAT'S A REALISTIC GOAL. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE NOT KNOWN HER FOR A VERY LONG TIME. JUST HER TIME HERE WITH THE CITY. HAVING ATTENDED SOME MONITOR'S BRIEFINGS WITH HER AND JUST MY INTERVIEW WITH HER WHICH I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION I WAS ASKED -- I ALWAYS ASKED. I SAY WHO DO YOU WORK FOR. AND THEY SAY WHAT THEY ALWAYS SAY, I WORK FOR THE ADMINISTRATION AND FOR THE COUNCIL. AND I ASKED THE QUESTION, DEPENDING ON WHO GETS TO YOU FIRST TO GIVE AN OPINION, ISN'T THAT BAKED IN? I'LL ASK THAT AGAIN PUBLICLY AND LET YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. I KNOW THAT'S THE CONCERN OF ALL OF THE COUNCILORS. I'VE HEARD THAT FROM MANY PEOPLE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. OF COURSE, YES I UNDERSTAND UNDER THE CHARTER THE CITY ATTORNEY REPRESENTS THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE CITY COUNCIL. AND THE WAY I'VE HEARD IT DESCRIBED AND I THINK IS ACCURATE IS THE CITY ATTORNEY REPRESENTS THE CITY AND HAS TO CONSIDER THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST. IT WILL COME UP THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WILL ASK FOR OPINION BEFORE COUNCILOR DOES AND WE ALREADY ISSUED AN OPINION ON A CERTAIN SURJT SUBJECT MATTER. ONE WAY I THINK ABOUT IT IS I TRY TO BE STRAIGHTFORWARD. YOU OPINION SHOULDN'T CHANGE. I'M GOING TO GIVE THE SAME ANSWER TO THE MAYOR THAT I WILL GIVE TO THE COUNCIL. I ALSO SAY THAT AT A CERTAIN POINT WHEN ACONTENTIOUS ISSUE IS IN FRONT OF US, AND IF THE COUNCIL DOESN'T FEEL ADEQUATELY REPRESENTED WE CAN ADDRESS THAT. WE CAN MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS FULLY REPRESENT ASKED HAS FULL LEGAL ADVICE. PART OF THE DUTY IN REPRESENTING THE COUNCIL IS MAKING SURE YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE BEING REPRESENTED. AND IF THAT'S NECESSARY, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU FOR THAT. YEAH, IT IS THE NATURE OF THIS FORM OF CITY GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE. THERE WOULD BE THESE BUILT IN CONFLICTS. I'VE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO SEE SEVERAL TIMES WHERE WE DID GO AHEAD AND WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HIRE OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND SPECIFIC ADVICE. NEXT IS COUNCILOR GROUT AND COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, THERE -- MR. PRESIDENT. LAUREN I'M EXCITED FOR YOU TO BECOME THE CITY ATTORNEY. MY TIME I'VE HAD TO INTERACT WITH YOU HAS BEEN POSITIVE. WORKING SPECIFICALLY WITH THE DOJ AND TRYING TO GET THAT RESOLVED AND MOVE FORWARD HAS BEEN A PLEASURE. I FOUND YOU EASY TO WORK WITH AND FORTHCOMING I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONTINUED RELATIONSHIP. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP EARLIER THIS EVENING WAS REGARDING THE NINTH CIRCUIT COURT. AND THE RULING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION USES OFTEN AND I GUESS SO TO SPEAK HANDCUFFING US AND BEING ABLE TO ENFORCE SOME OF THE EXISTING LAWS WHEN IT COMES TO UNSHELTERED PEOPLE LIVING ON THE STREETS. COULD YOU -- I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU THIS. DO YOU OR COULD YOU GIVE SOME CLARITY TO HOW THAT IS APPLIED SPECIFICALLY TO ALBUQUERQUE? MEANING THE RATIO OF OPEN BEDS, VACANT BEDS AVAILABLE TO THOSE LIVING ON THE STREETS AND OUR ABILITY -- AS OPPOSED TO THOSE THAT WANT TO OR WILLING TO UTILIZE THOSE BEDS OR JUST THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS ON THE STREETS OF ALBUQUERQUE RIGHT NOW. THERE'S A QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT GIVING SOME SPECIFIC CLARITY AND DIRECTION TO THE ADMINISTRATION ON THAT. DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU COULD AND COULD YOU GIVE DRAEKZ TO -- DIRECTION TO THE ADMINISTRATION? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I KNOW WE'VE DISCUSSED THE BOISE CASE AND IT'S A NINTH CIRCUIT CASE. WE'RE IN THE TENTH CIRCUIT. WE DON'T KNOW IF THE TENTH CIRCUIT WOULD ADOPT THE SAME ANALYSIS. BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING WE KEEP IN MIND AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THE ADMINISTRATION IS KEEPING IT IN MIND. AS YOU'VE HEARD IN THE PRESENTATION NOT JUST TONIGHT BUT PREVIOUSLY, GENERALLY SPEAKING THERE ARE BEDS AVAILABLE ON ANY GIVEN DAY IN ALBUQUERQUE. BUT HOW THE COURTS WOULD TREAT GIVEN THE DISTANCE AND TRANSPORTATION ISSUE WOULD BE HARD TO PREDICT. I THINK THAT McLENDEN MAY BE THE MORE SIGNIFICANT OBSTACLE THAN THE BOISE CASE. THE McLENDEN RESTRICTION DO LIMIT OUR ABILITY IN SOME INSTANCES TO MOVE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, ON THE NINTH CIRCUIT ISSUE, WOULD YOU GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION CAUTION OR WOULD YOU ADVISE THEM TO EXERCISE YOUR POLICIES AND WE'LL DEFEND WHAT COMES OUR WAY? >> THE BAY -- WAY I LOOK AT CITY LEGAL IS I ALWAYS HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS. I HAVE TO SAY THIS CASE IS OUT THERE. IT'S FROM THE NINTH CIRCUIT. IT MAY OR MAY NOT APPLY. IT BECOMES A POLICY DECISION TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT POLICIES REGARDLESS OR WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW AS A MATTER OF CAUTION TO FOLLOW THE MARTIN VERSUS BOISE. >>COUN. LEWIS: IF IT'S UNCLEAR AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A CLEAR DIRECTION ON, THEN THE ADMINISTRATION COULD PICK A POLICY AND AS THE ATTORNEY YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO DEFEND THAT POLICY? >> YES, ONCE THE ADMINISTRATION TAKES A POLICY AND WE'LL DEFEND THAT POLICY. IF IT IS CHALLENGED. >>COUN. BENTON: WE HAVE COUNCILOR JONES NEXT. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, I APOLOGIZE -- THANK YOU FOR SPENDING QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH ME THIS WEEK AND ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS AND ALLOWING ME TO GET TO KNOW YOU AND FORM AN OPINION ABOUT WHAT I THINK YOU CAN DO AND HOW YOU HANDLE THINGS. I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. IT'S NICE TO KNOW THE PEOPLE FOR WHOM YOU'RE VOTING. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE TIME AND GREAT RESPONSES AND GETTING TO ME. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. WE APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO JOIN. YOU OURLD JOIN US. NOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET A TITLE IN YOUR NAME. IT WILL BE MORE FUN THAT WAY, I'M SURE. WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS, WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> MOTION PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU, ALL. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE TO OC-11. THIS IS THE SELECTION OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CIVILIAN POLICE OVERSIGHT AGENCY. I MOVE CONFIRMATION. THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? OKAY. MS. EWING IS WITH US. WE'LL GET HER ON. >> MY APOLOGIES, I'M HAVING DIFFICULTIES STARTING THE VIDEO. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT'S FINE. YOU CAN SPEAK TO US IF YOU LIKE. WE'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR TAKE ON THE POSITION AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU. >> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TONIGHT. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO CONSIDER MY NOMINATION. FOR THOSE OF YOU I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF MY BACKGROUND. I GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS SCHOOL OF LAW IN 2008. I WAS IN PRIVATE FRACS A WHILE IN PORTLAND FOCUSING ON INSURANCE DEFENSE BEFORE COMING BACK TO NEW MEXICO. AND I HAVE WORKED AS A PUBLIC DEFENDER IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO, STARTING IN ALBUQUERQUE IN 2013 AND I HAVE BEEN AS WORKING AS THE DISTRICT DEFENDER IN THE FIFTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT. MAINLY ROSWELL AND CARLSBAD. IN THAT TIME I DEFENDED EVERYTHING FROM JAYWALKING AND MINOR TRAFFIC CASES ALL THE WAY UP TO MURDER. WHILE I WAS IN ALBUQUERQUE, I JOINED THE OFFICE AROUND THE TIME THAT THE DOJ INVESTIGATION OF APD STARTED. SO THAT WAS ALWAYS SORT OF PART OF THE BACKGROUND OF MY PRACTICE WHILE I WAS WORKING IN THE ALBUQUERQUE OFFICE. LIKE I SAID AS DISTRICT DEFENDER AND IN THE FIFTH MANAGING OUR ROSWELL AND CARLSBAD OFFICE FOR THE LAST FIVE AND A HALF YEARS. I LOOK FORWARD TO AND APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR POSITION. I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE AGENCY AND THE BOARD TO BRING THE CPOA INTO THE SORT OF COMPLIANCE ALONG THE TIMELINE SET OUT BY APD. I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE THAT WE WANT TO WORK TOGETHER DILIGENTLY TO ENSURE THAT THE DOJ IS WILLING AND ABLE TO LEAVE ALBUQUERQUE AT THE EARLIEST POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY AND WE CAN RESUME SUPERVISION OF OUR OWN POLICE FORCE WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL FEDERAL OVERSIGHT. PARDON ME. I ALSO LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH AND FORGING POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE CPOA AND APD AND THE POLICE OFFICER'S ASSOCIATION. AND AT THIS POINT, I STAND OPEN TO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE ALSO HAVE OUR BOARD CHAIR MS. FRENCH WITH US. AND I THOUGHT WE WOULD HEAR FROM HER BEFORE WE GO TO QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. MS. FRENCH. >> YES. I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO ABSOLUTELY CONFIRM MS. EWING. SHE WAS SELECTED BY THE BOARD. WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW HER TWICE. WE WERE VERY IMPRESSED BOTH TIMES. MOSTLY WE WERE IMPRESSED WITH HER BACKGROUND, RESUME AND EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE IN INVESTIGATIONS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, DEALING WITH JUDGES, COMMUNITY, SUPERVISING 30 PEOPLE, THE AGENCY HAS 11 EMPLOYEES. WE WERE VERY IMPRESSED WITH HER AND SHE ABSOLUTELY WAS OUR TOP CHOICE AND WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY CONFIRM THE BOARD'S SELECTION FOR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THIS POSITION, I THINK THE CIRCULAR WENT OUT A YEAR AGO. WE'RE ANXIOUS AND VERY LOOKING FORWARD TO FILLING THIS MUCH-NEEDED POSITION. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MS. FRENCH. WE'LL GO TO QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS. STARTING WITH COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, FOLLOWED BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: HI, MS. EWING. I HAVE A QUESTION IN REFERENCE TO THE FACT THAT YOU'RE A PUBLIC DEFENDER. COUNCIL SERVICES EXCUSED A PUBLIC DEFENDER FROM ACTUALLY BEING ON THE BOARD. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE HERE, ANOTHER PUBLIC DEFENDER. I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT NOT SURE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO REACT TO BEING ABLE -- I MEAN BEING ABLE TO BE IN A POSITION WHEREAS A PUBLIC DEFENDER YOU HAVE ACCESS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE POLICE OFFICERS IN REFERENCE TO CRIME AND INCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED. AND I WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU ARE GOING TO MANAGE A SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES BEING ON OUR CPOA AND DEAL WITH CERTAIN ISSUES AND KEEPING THE BIASES OF YOU BEING A PUBLIC DEFENDER AND THE ACCESS YOU WOULD HAVE IN DEALING WITH THESE CASES. HOW WOULD YOU DEAL WITH IT? AND HOW WOULD YOU KEEP YOURSELF IN A NEUTRAL, TRANSPARENT POSITION FROM YOUR POSITION RIGHT NOW OR POST YOU HAD IN THE PAST AND ALSO YOUR CONTACTS? >> OF COURSE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. AS A PUBLIC DEFENDER, I OBVIOUSLY HAVE WORKED IN COURTS AROUND THE STATE. AS YOU NOTED ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF OFFICERS. HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT THE PURPOSE OF THIS JOB AND THAT'S NOT THE INTENTION OF MY APPLICATION FOR THIS JOB. BOTH I AND PUBLIC DEFENDERS HAVE LEGAL,ETHICAL OBLIGATION NOT TO CROSS CERTAIN LINES. I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO INQUIRE TO FORMER COLLEAGUES ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THEIR CASES BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR THEM TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH ME IN TERMS OF QUESTIONS OF CONFIDENTIALITY FOR THEIR CLIENTS. AND IT ALSO WOULD BE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF MY JOB TO DO SO. THERE ARE DEFINED PARAMETERS BOTH IN THE CASA, IN THE ESTABLISHING STATUTES SET OUT AND ESTABLISHING THE CPOA AND ALSO IN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING GEEMENT -- AGREEMENT THAT HAVE TO GUIDE THE JOB I DO. AND I TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY THOSE OBLIGATIONS. BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE HEART OF WHAT THIS JOB IS. AND IF I'M NOT CONDUCTING INVESTIGATIONS PURSUANT TO ALL OF THOSE GUIDELINES AND STATUTES, NOTHING THAT COMES OUT OF MY OFFICE CAN HOLD ANY WATER. NO DECISIONS CAN BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. AND FRANKLY, IT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO GIVING THE DOJ A REASON TO CONTINUE MONITORING US, IF WE DIDN'T ACT AS INDEPENDENTLY AND IMPARTIALLY AS WAS ENVISIOED BY THE STATUTE AND AGREEMENTS I DESCRIBED. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YOU'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY BE WORKING WITH ALBUQUERQUE POLICE OFFICERS WHO DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WORKING WITH A FORMER PUBLIC DEFENDER, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE OFFICERS FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH YOU ON A BOARD THAT'S GOING TO BE MAKING DECISION ABOUT THEIR EMPLOYMENT AND HOW THEY HANDLE CERTAIN THINGS FOR SITUATIONS? >> ALL I CAN DO IS PROVIDE THEM WITH THE MOST OPENNESS AND TRANSPARENCY AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP THE TRUST THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE IN ME. BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT SORT OF THING SHOULDN'T BE HANDED WITHOUT QUESTION. I'M ALWAYS GOING TO DO BY MOST TO BE AVAILABLE TO THOSE WHO HAVE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. PART OF THE STATUTORY OBLIGATION OF THE AGENCY IS COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND OUR OFFICERS AREN'T JUST THE PEOPLE BEING OVERSEEN, THEY'RE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. BEYOND THAT, ALL I CAN DO IS PROMISE TO BE AS OPEN AND TRANSPARENT AS I CAN, AS I DISCUSSED WITH YOU IN OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS. AS A PUBLIC DEFENDER, I'M A TREMENDOUS BELIEVER IN THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE THAT EVERYONE IS ININNOCENT -- INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. THAT APPLIES TO THE POLICE. THE ONLY WAY TO DEVELOP THAT TRUST IS BY ME BEHAING IN A TRUSTWORTHY MANNER. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: NEXT IS COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, IF CHAIR FRENCH WOULD BE WILLING TO ANSWER. I WAS CURIOUS WHAT THE PROCESS WAS FOR THE SELECTION. HOW YOU ALL PUT OUT FOR APPLICATIONS AND PROCESS FOR INTERVIEWS AND SELECTION PROCESS. >> THE PROCESS WAS THE CIRCULAR WAS PUT OUT BY HR WITH THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND RESPONSIBILITIES. THEN, AFTER HR SCREENED THE APPLICANTS THAT THEY BELIEVE MET MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS, THEY FORWARDED THOSE APPLICATIONS TO THE BOARD. ALL APPLICANTS THAT MET MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS THE BOARD INTERVIEWED ALL OF THEM. THE BOARD THEN PROCEEDED WITH INTERVIEW QUESTIONS FROM EACH BOARD MEMBER, ALL APPLICANTS WERE ASKED THE SAME QUESTIONS. WE WERE NOT -- WE DID NOT ASK ANY APPLICANT A DIFFERENT QUESTION. ALL OF THEM WERE TREATED FAIRLY AND EQUALLY THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS. AT THE END OF THE PROCESS, WE WENT INTO EXECUTIVE DISCUSSION. DISCUSSED HOW WE FELT THAT THEY ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS. WE HAD A SCORE SHEET. AND THEN EACH PERSON GAVE THEIR TOTAL SCORE. THE SCORES WERE ADDED UP. THE PERSON WITH THE HIGHEST SCORE WAS SELECTED. THAT WAS THE PROCESS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, CHAIR. MR. PRESIDENT, ONE MORE QUESTION FOR MS. EWING. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH YOU BEFORE TONIGHT. HAVE YOU MET WITH THE POLICY ANALYST AND AGENCY STAFF AS WELL? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. NO, I HAVEN'T. I PARTICULARLY THOUGHT MEETING WITH AGENCY STAFF BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL HAD ITS OPPORTUNITY TO CONFIRM MY APPOINTMENT WOULD BE PREMATURE. IS SEEMED -- THERE WAS NO CERTAINTY OF WHAT THE VOTE OF THIS COUNCIL WOULD BE. I DIDN'T FEEL IT WOULD BE THE MOST RESPECTFUL USE OF THEIR TIME. >>COUN. BASSAN: ONE MORE FOLLOW UP TO THAT. I RESPECT THAT ASPECT OF IT. AND I ALSO WONDER HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK WHEN YOU'RE POTENTIALLY RUNNING THE AGENCY WITH ALL OF THE OTHER PEOPLE UNDERNEATH YOU AND NOBODY'S EVER MET OR SPOKEN TO ONE ANOTHER. IT'S TWO SIDES OF THE COIN. IT IS WORKING BOTH WAYS AS FAR AS SOME OF THE CONCERNS INVOLVED. >> OF COURSE. WHEN I STARTED DOWN HERE I HAD NOT REALLY MET ANY OF THE ATTORNEYS OR SUPPORT STAFF WHO WOULD BE WORKING FOR ME IN THE ROSWELL OR CARLSBAD OFFICES. AND MY APPROACH THERE THAT I WOULD EXPECT TO BE MY APPROACH HERE WAS TO SIT DOWN WITH EVERYBODY INDIVIDUALLY AS I GOT STARTED AND GET TO KNOW WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS WERE BOTH ABOUT THE AGENCY AS IT EXISTS AND ABOUT MY COMING IN. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S A TENET OF GOOD LEADERSHIP TO MAKE CHANGES WITHOUT TALKING TO PEOPLE. I FIRMLY BELIEVE IN GETTING TO KNOW THE PEOPLE YOU'RE WORKING WITH AND GETTING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE AS THE CURRENT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, AS THE PEOPLE BEEN ON THE ON THE GROUND LONGER THAN YOU BEFORE MAKING ANY DECISIONS OR CHANGES. BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO LEARN FROM AND RESPECT THE STAFF THAT YOU ARE COMING INTO BECAUSE THEY'RE THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE AGENCY. AND THEY'RE THE PEOPLE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COUNT ON TO COMPLETE THE WORK OF THE AGENCY. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >>COUN. BENTON: I WANT TO THANK YOU IN YOUR INTEREST IN SERVING THE CITY. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. DID WE GET A MOTION AND A SECOND? OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF MS. EWING TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CPOA. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. MS. ORTEGA, CALL THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING TO KNOW YOU BETTER. WE'LL MOVE TO EC98. SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH GUIDE HOUSE FOR ARPA FUND MANAGEMENT SERVICE. I MOVE APPROVAL. THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE TO FINAL ACTIONS. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS O-18. AMENDING THE ALBUQUERQUE RETAILERS MEAT MARKETS TO REVISE INSPECTION FREAKANCY AND PROVIDE PROCEDURES AND REGULATE EDIBLE CANNABIS PRODUCTS. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT? I'M SORRY. THERE'S AN AMENDMENT BY COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: I DO, MR. PRESIDENT. OR IF YOU SHARE I'M HAPPY TO PRESENT IT. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. I BELIEVE THIS IS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THIS MAKES THE DISTINCTION PROCESS AND FINISHED PRODUCTS. THINGS LIKE EDIBLES AND THE WILD CANNABIS FLOWER. IT'S NOT THE CITY OR STATE'S INTENT TO REQUIRE THESE RAW FLOWER THAT'S TESTED BY THE STATE TO FALL ADDITIONAL TESTING BY THE CITY OR REGULATION IF IT'S NOT CHANGED AFTER THE STATE WIDE TEST. I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILORS, ON THE AMENDMENT? WOEL -- VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. . >> >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES 8-1. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO? ADMINISTRATION HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. WE WILL -- IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES 9-0. >>COUN. BENTON: THANKS, COUNCILORS. WE'LL MOVE TO O-19. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. IT'S AMENDING THE ALBUQUERQUE FOOD SANITATION ORDINANCE TO UPDATE PERMITS AND REGULATE EDIBLE CANNABIS PRODUCTS. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU. MOTION AND A SECOND FOR A DUE PASS. WE DO HAVE AN AMENDMENT. ALSO BY COUNCILOR DAVIS. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. DAVIS: DITTO, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS FLOOR AMENDMENT DOES EXACTLY WHAT WE DID IN THE OTHER ORDINANCE. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE A QUESTION. DOES THIS UPDATE CHANGE THE FREQUENCY OF FOOD SAFETY INSPECTIONS? >>COUN. BENTON: SOMEONE WITH ADMINISTRATION MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO MAKE INSPECTIONS MORE FREQUENT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER QUESTION OR COMMENTS, COUNCILORS? THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. MS. ORTEGA TO CALL THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0 ON AMENDMENT ONE. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR GROUT, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, OR COMMENTS, CLOSES, WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN COMMENTARY. >>COUN. DAVIS: HE ALWAYS SNEAKS ONE IN EVERY MEETING. >>COUN. BENTON: WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM C. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT. O-27 IS AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BOND BLUE HALO PROJECT IN THE MUMENT OF $16 MILLION TO PROVIDE FUNDS TO FINANCE THE RENOVATIONS DEVELOPMENT IMPROVEMENT AND EQUIPPING OF A FACILITY INCLUDING OFFICE COMPLEX LABORATORIES MANUFACTURING, TEST AREAS AND SECURE SPACES FOR AN INTEGRATED TECHNOLOGY. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. WE DO HAVE SOME FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WE HAVE FOLKS FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND FROM BLUE HALO. LET'S HEAR FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. >> GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILORS. TODAY WE HAVE TOECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TRANSACTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THE PROJECT FOR BLUE HALO INVOLVES A LEADA COMPONENT AND INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BONDS. WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE PRESENTATION FOR BOTH TRANSACTIONS. BLUE HALO IS USING ENGINEERING TO ADDRESS THE COMPLEX CHALLENGES FACING THE NATIONAL SECURITY COMMUNITY. THEY HAVE 260 EXISTING EMPLOYEES LOCALLY AND THEY INTEND TO INCREASE EMPLOYMENT BY ADDING 64 NEW JOBS WITH AN AVERAGE SALARY OF $90,000. 60 TO 70% OF THE JOBS ARE EXPECTED TO BE FILLED BY ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS. THE NEW JOBS ARE EXPECTED TO FILL GAPS IN ENGINEERING AND MANUFACTURING AND EXPANSION REPRESENTS A HUGE WIN FOR ALBUQUERQUE IN A HIGH GROWTH INDUSTRY. I'LL PASS IT OVER TO CHRIS TO COMPLETE THE PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU, DEPUTY DIRECTOR. GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, BLUE HALO IS MANUFACTURE OF PRODUCTS FOR SPACE SUPERIOR TOR AND AIR AND MISSILE DEFENSE AND SPECIALIZED TRAINING, RESEARCH DEVELOPMENT THROUGH DEPLOYMENT. THEY ARE HEADQUARTERED IN VIRGINIA AND HAVE OFFICES IN 11 STATES. IN JULY OF 2021, IT WAS ANNOUNCED BLUE HALO SELECTED ALBUQUERQUE FOR A NEW STATE OF THE ART CAMPUS. FOR MONTHS PRIOR TO THAT COMMITMENT, THE CITY, STATE AND AREA WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE COMPANY AT CREATING A COMPREHENSIVE INCENTIVE PACKAGE TO SUPPORT THEIR EXPANSION. THE COMPANY IS REQUESTING $16.175 MILLION IN INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BONDS TO ASSIST WITH THE IMPROVEMENT OF AN EXISTING BUILDING TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR GROWTH. AND ON THE LEDA SIDE THEY'RE SEEKING FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $2.5 MILLION THE STATE AGREED TO PROVIDE $2.25 MILLION AND THE STATE WILL PROVIDE $250,000. THE CITY SERVES AN AS THE FISCAL AGENT. THEY'RE RENOVATING AN AN OLD BUILDING AT GIBSON BOULEVARD. IT WILL INCLUDE 73,000 SQUARE FEET OUT FITTED FOR OFFICE AND LABS MANUFACTURING, TEST AREAS AND OTHERS SECURE SPACES. THIS IS AN ALLOWABLE USE PER THE CITY'S INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. AND THE IRB PACKET INCLUDES FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS WHICH USES A 20-YEAR BOND RATE OF 2.25% LEADING AN EXPECTED YIELD OF MORE THAN $1.5 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO THE CITY AFTER 20 YEARS. THE TAX ABATEMENT FOR THE IRB WOULD BE 90% FOR BOTH REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY. IRB22-4 IS A QUALIFIED PROJECT AS DEFINED BY THE STATE'S INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BOND ORDINANCE. THE PACKET INCLUDES FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS PROVIDED TO THE CITY FROM THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. THE ANALYSIS SHOWS THE COMPANY WILL MAKE SUBSTANTIAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY. THE CITY WILL RECEIVE $29 MILLION IN NET BENEFITS OVER THE TEN YEAR PERIOD. AND THE PROJECT WILL GENERATE OVER $127 MILLION IN TOTAL TAXING DISTRICTS. LEDA22-7 IS A QUALIFIED PROJECT AS DEFINED BY THE STATE'S LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACT AND THE CITY ENABLING LEGISLATION. IT COMPLIES WITH THE PLANS AND POLICY AND MEETS PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES. BASED ON THE FINDINGS, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF IRB22-4 AND LEDA22-7. AS PROPOSED IN THE PLAN APPLICATIONS. WE'RE THRILLED THAT THE COMPANY MADE THIS COMMITMENT TO THE CITY. AND WITH HUGE INVESTMENTS BY CREATING THESE HIGH-PAYING JOBS AND WE WANT TO THANK STEVE AND THE WHOLE BLUE HALO TEAM. AND FINALLY WE WANT TO THANK AREA AND THE STATE FOR THE HARD WORK ON THE PROJECT AND LASTLY WE WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR BENTON AND THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY. AND STEVE WITH BLUE HALO WISH TO SPEAK, IF THAT'S OKAY, MR. PRESIDENT? >>COUN. BENTON: YES, PLEASE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE. ON BEHALF OF BLUE HAD HALO I'M GLAD TO EXTEND OUR THANKS FOR THIS SUPPORT WE RECEIVED FROM THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND STATE OF NEW MEXICO. YOUR SIGNIFICANT SUPPORT HAS MADE ALL THIS POSSIBLE. PARTICULARLY LIKE TO THANK COUNCILOR GROUT, OUR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE COUNCIL. CHRIS CHAVEZ, MY PARTNER IN THIS NAVIGATING THE PROCESS THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS ACTIVITY. AND THE STATE AND AREA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOLKS. THESE TEAMS HAVE MADE THIS POSSIBLE. WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT WE COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT. WITH THAT IN MIND, AND AS A CONTINUED SIGN OF BLUE HALOS CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO SUSTAINING AND CREATING HIGH-WAGE TECHNOLOGY AND MANUFACTURING JOBS IN ALBUQUERQUE, WE'RE EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE SIGNED A NEW LEASE FOR AN ENTIRE ADDITIONAL FULL BUILDING OF 80,000 SQUARE FEET IN THE SANDIA SCIENCE AND TECH PARK. THIS NEW FACILITY WILL INCREASE BLUE HALOS FOOTPRINT IN ALBUQUERQUE TO OVER 200,000 SQUARE FEET AND WILL ACCOMMODATE OUR ANTICIPATED GROWTH IN THE NEAR TERM. WE'RE EXCITED TO EXTEND OUR FOOTPRINT AND BE A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU AGAIN ON BEHALF OF BLUE HALO AND A FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THAT NEW LEASE WILL BE FORTH COMING. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN CITY, STATE AND OUR LOCAL NON-PROFIT EDO AREA ABSOLUTELY REMARKABLE. FROM THE STATE'S PERSPECTIVE WE COULDN'T BE MORE PLEASED TO WELCOME BLUE HALO INTO THE ALBUQUERQUE FOLD. YOU KNOW, I WON'T STEAL YOUR THUNDER. I WON'T PUT YOUR ANNOUNCEMENT ON MY FACEBOOK PAGE. I'LL LEAVE THAT TO YOU. I SAY IT FREQUENTLY, THE REASON WE ECONOMIC DEVELOPERS GET UP IN THE MORNING IS TO CREATE WELL-PAYING JOBS FOR NEW MEXICANS. AND WHAT BLUE HALO BRINGS TO THE COMMUNITY IS EXACTLY THAT. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY URGE THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE BOTH THE IRB AND THE LEDA. AND CHRIS CHAVEZ, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK. AND DANIELLE WILL ALSO BE SPEAKING. WE COULDN'T DO WITHOUT OUR PARTNERS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, SIR. WE HAVE DANIELLE FROM THE ALBUQUERQUE ECONOMIC REGIONAL ALLIANCE. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCIL. IT'S AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO SPEAK BRIEFLY TONIGHT. I LOVE TO ECHO THE COMMENTS OF ALL OF YOUR WONDERFUL STAFF AND COLLEAGUES ONLINE. WE COULDN'T DO THIS INDEPENDENTLY WITHOUT EACH OTHER. AND I'LL ADD ANOTHER BULLET POINT ON TOP OF ALL THE OTHER WONDERFUL THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID. THU -- THE ADDITION OF THE 64 JOBS GIVES YOU IMPACT OF HALF A BILLION DOLLARS OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS. THEIR ENTIRE IMPACT FOR THE REGION IS 3.2 BILLION. IT'S SIGNIFICANT. BLUE HALO SPOKE TO AREAS CONTRIBUTORS AND PARTNERS IN SEPTEMBER AND SHARED A BIT ABOUT THEIR TREMENDOUS CORPORATE CITIZENRY. THEY MAKE A DIFFERENCE BY PARTICIPATING WITH ROADRUNNER FOOD BANK, LOCAL LAUNCH TEAM, AND NEW MEXICO SCHOOL FOR THE BLIND AND DIGITALLY IMPAIRED. THEY CONVERTED 3-D PRINTERS TO CREATE MASKS DURING THE PANDEMIC. THIS IS A BUSINESS WE WANT IN OUR COMMUNITY. THRILLED ABOUT THEIR EXPANSION. AND I ECHO OTHER COMMENT AND URGE YOU TO APPROVE BOTH APPLICATIONS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MS. CASEY. WE DO HAVE AVAILABLE FOR ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS CHRIS MEREHEAD. OUR LAWYER. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CHRIS, FOR BEING HERE. WE HAVE A FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: CHRIS. >>COUN. GROUT: CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE SUBSTITUTE? >> YES, THIS FLOOR SUBSTITUTE THE ONLY CHANGE IS IN SECTION NINE. THE PAYMENT SCHEDULE IS FILLED OUT. WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS INTRODUCED, THAT SCHEDULE HAD NOT BEEN COMPLETED. SO, THAT HAS BEEN DONE AND THE PAYMENT SCHEDULE OVER THE 20 YEARS OF THE BONDS IS INCLUDED. IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME THING THAT HAS BEEN INTRODUCED AND MOVE FORWARD. NOW WITH THOSE NUMBERS INVOLVED. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THIS FLOOR AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: IT WILL BE A FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. >>COUN. GROUT: FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0 ON THE FLOOR SUB. >>COUN. BENTON: ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? OKAY. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO MENTION AND SAY THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK. I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR TWO YEARS. I REMEMBER VISITING PART OF THIS PROJECT AT THE SCIENCE AND TECH PARKWAY BACK WHEN. SENATOR HEINRICH AND OTHERS. IT REMINDS US HOW MUCH A BIG DEAL SCIENCE AND SPACE ARE TO ALBUQUERQUE'S ECONOMY AND THE SOUTHEAST PART OF THE CITY. WE ALL HAVE A PIECE AND OUR CITY SHOULD BE PROUD. PARTICULARLY COUNCILOR GROUT AND I ARE LUCKY TO HAVE SCIENCE AND TECH, AVIATION AREA, AND MESA DEL SOL, IT'S BECOMING NEW MEXICO'S SPACE HUB. THIS IS HUGE. AND THAT BILLION WITH A B NUMBER IS NOT INSIGNIFICANT. STEVEN, YOUR ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE OTHER SPACE AND SQUARE FOOTAGE, I KNOW IT WILL BE BIG NEWS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU NEW MEXICO IS BOOMING AND DOING WHAT WE'RE GOOD AT. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE FOR CONTINUING TO SUPPORT THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: THIS IS A BRIGHT SPOT IN DISTRICT NINE. THIS EXPANSION IS HUGE FOR US. AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0 ON THE VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE TO O-28. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, O-28 APPROVING A PROJECT INVOLVING BLUE HALO LLC PURSUANT TO THE LOCAL DEVELOPMENT ACT AND CITY ORDINANCE TO SUPPORT RENOVATION, EXPANSION AND IMPROVEMENT OF ENGINEERING, MANUFACTURING AND TRAINING FACILITIES FOR AN INTEGRATED TECHNOLOGY COMPANY IN ALBUQUERQUE. AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF PROJECT PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT AND OTHER DOCUMENTS IN CONNECTION WITH THIS PROJECT. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. THIS IS THE COMPANION BILL. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. I'M EXCITED FOR THIS AND FOR OUR CITY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS ITEM F. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS ACTUALLY A REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT BILL FOR THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE IN REFERENCE TO TRANSPARENCY. AND MY CO-SPONSORS ARE COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR JONES, AND COUNCILOR BENTON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ALSO HAVE SPOKEN TO THE OTHER COUNCILORS. AND I'M JUST SO EXCITED ABOUT MAKING SURE WE DO THE RIGHT THINGS FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. R-18 IS CREATING A PILOT PROJECT TO TEST AND REVIEW PRIORITY-BASED BUDGETING APPROACH IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET. I MOVE A DUE PASS. THERE'S AN AMENDMENT IN THE iPADS. >>COUN. BENTON: I SEE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. WOEL GO TO THE AMENDMENT. THIS IS WILL BE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: ON PAGE THREE, LINE 23, REPLACE$2 MILLION WITH $150,000. THIS AMENDMENT IS UPDATE THE COST IMPLEMENTING PRIORITY-BASED BUDGETING PROGRAM AND THE AMOUNT HAS BEEN UPDATED SINCE THE INITIAL DRAFTING OF THE RESOLUTION. WE ACTUALLY LEFT IN THE AMOUNT THAT WOULD COVER THE ENTIRE CITY NOT THE PILOT PROJECT. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD CLARIFY IT'S A PILOT PROJECT. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN FOR THE AMENDMENT. MS. ORTEGA TO CALL THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0 ON AMENDMENT ONE. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. COUNCILORS, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE SPONSORS? I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR SANCHEZ FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. IT'S BEEN PRETTY CLEAR FOR ME WITH THE STAFF ANALYSIS THAT THIS IS GOVERNMENT BEST PRACTICE IN ACTION. GOOD STUFF. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ TO CLOSE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE CURRENT DEFICIENCIES IN THE OPERATING BUDGET. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY IS TRENDING ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND REFERENCE TO LARGER CITIES. IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME TO MIND SINCE I WAS A POLICE OFFICER WORKING THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT I REMEMBER THERE WAS ONLY SIX LINE ITEMS ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUT THEY HAD SO MANY PROGRAMS TIED TO THE BUDGET. THIS WOULD GIVE US AN ACTUAL TRANSAPPARENT LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM AND EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM WITHIN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TO DETERMINE WHETHER THERE IS A VIABLE NEED FOR ANY OF THESE PROGRAMS. IF THERE IS A GOOD PROGRAM, WE FUND IT MORE. IF THAT PROGRAM IS NOT WORKING, WE MOVE THAT FUNDING OR SAY, HEY LOOK, MR. DIRECTOR THAT IS NOT WORKING. GET IT FIXED OR WE'RE GOING TO PULL THE FUNDING. WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE SEE EACH AND EVERY PROGRAM IN ITS ENTIRETY. SOME ARE INCREMENTAL BUDGET PROCESS. WE START WITH LAST YEAR AS WELL. WE START WITH LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND START FROM A BASELINE AND SUBTRACT THE ADJUSTMENTS SUCH AS SALARIES AND UTILITIES, AND LAYER THE NEW SERVICES IN THE ISSUE PAPERS, PROGRAM NUMBERS, DEPARTMENT I. D. DO NOT GIVE THE TRUE REPRESENTATION. IT'S IMPORTANT WE KNOW AS CITY COUNCIL SINCE WE HOLD THE PURSE STRINGS TO KNOW WHAT IS TAKING PLACE WITHIN THAT LINE ITEM AND THE PROGRAMS WITHIN THAT LINE ITEM. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET ALL THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED TO THE SERVICES WE ARE PROVIDING. AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT CORRECTLY. NOT ENOUGH DETAIL. IN SOME AREAS OPERATING AND PERSONAL AMOUNTS, NOT ENOUGH DATA TO MAKE IMPORTANT DECISIONS. THIS WAS MY FIRST BUDGET PROCESS AND THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION IN REFERENCE TO I NOTICED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US. I HONESTLY FEEL THAT I COULD HAVE HAD MORE INPUT IF I WOULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD THE BUDGET BETTER. I THINK THIS IS GOING TO HELP EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US WORK THROUGH THE BUDGET IN AN EASIER FASHION. AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN LACKING IS TRUE PROGRAM EVALUATION. WITH THIS, WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT AND KNOW IT. AND WE'RE GOING TO KNOW WHERE WE NEED TO BE PUTTING MONEY AND TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM. I THINK THIS IS THAT WE'VE BEEN NEEDING FOR YEARS. FOR YEARS. AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WE'RE NOT THE FIRST ONE TO DO THIS. WE HAVE EXAMPLES WE CAN PULL FROM. AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS WORK. AND GIVE THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE THE CLARITY AND TRANSPARENCY THAT THEY DESERVE IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN LONG TIME COMING. AND I URGE AND LOOK FORWARD TO EVERYONE'S SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT IS ITEM G. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, MYSELF, AND COUNCILOR DAVIS. R-36. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO -- >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SURE. THIS IS DIRECTING THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO DEVELOP OPERATING PROCEDURES FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. WE HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS. I'LL GET THESE ON THE SCREEN. I'M CO-SPONSORING THIS AMENDMENT. THIS WOULD BE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. IT READS ON PAGE TWO, LINE 15, STRIKE ADDITION OF AND AIMS. ON PAGE TWO, LINE 17, STRIKE MAY BE AND REPLACE WITH ARE. THAT WOULD READ -- SAFEGUARDS TO BE IN PLACE THAT ARE BEYOND THE GENERAL SCOPE OF THE IDO. AND NUMBER THREE IS ON PAGE TWO LINES 29 AND 30 AFTER THE WORD SERVE POPULATION INSERT IN THE GENERAL POPULATION. AND INSERT THE WORD NEGATIVE BEFORE POTENTIAL IMPACT. THE LAST TWO LINES OF SECTION NINE WOULD READ OPERATING PENALINGERS FOR SAFE OUTDOOR TO HELP THE WELFARE OF THE POPULATION AND THE GENERAL POPULATION WHILE HELPING TO MITIGATE NEGATIVE POTENTIAL IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. AND ON PAGE FOUR, LINE -- PAGE THREE, LINES ONE AND TWO, STRIKE THE WORD FOR AND REPLACE WITH THE WORD AND AT THE END OF THE SENTENCE. SO THAT WOULD READ MANAGEMENT PLANS AND SECURITY AGREEMENTS TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF INDIVIDUALS OF DESIGNATED SPACE AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC. AND ON PAGE THREE, LINE FIVE, STRIKE THE WORD REQUIRED AND REPLACE TO BE PROVIDED. THAT WOULD READ DESCRIPTION OF TYPES OF SOCIAL SERVICES. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ON THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR DAVIS. THAT WAS JUST A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. MS. ORTEGA TO CALL THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> AMENDMENT ONE PASSES 7-2. >>COUN. BENTON: I HAVE ANOTHER BRIEF AMENDMENT. COUNCILOR LEWIS, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >>COUN. LEWIS: I HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT. I WANT TO MOVE 120-DAY DEFERRAL ON THE ENTIRE BILL. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT WOULD SUPERSEDE THE AMENDMENT. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. FOR 120-DAY -- >> I'M SORRY. UNDER THE COUNCIL RULES THE MAX AMOUNT OF TIME FOR DEFERRAL IS 90 DAYS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE A 90-DAY DEFERRAL. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY, AMENDMENT FOR 90-DAY DEFERRAL. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? COUNCILOR BASSAN, THAT IS YOUR SECOND? MOTION AND SECOND FOR DEFERRAL OF 90 DAYS. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I DID. I WANT TO RAISE THAT A DEFERRAL ON THIS BILL MEANS WE WILL HAVE LEGALLY ALLOWABLE OUTDOOR SPACES WITHOUT ANY RULES IN PLACE FOR HOW THEY WILL BE PUT IN PLACE. I DON'T THINK THAT IS ANYONE I'VE SPOKEN TO WANTS. I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT BEFORE THERE'S SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN THE COMMUNITY WE HAVE SOME SORT OF RULES AND PROTOCOLS IN PLACE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO DEFER TO MR. MELENDREZ IN REFERENCE TO THAT QUESTION AND REFERENCE TO WHAT COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN JUST ADDED. IF IN FACT IT COULD BE LOOKED AT AS A DEFERRAL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY AND THE CONTEXT THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES THROUGH THE IDO. I THINK THERE'S SOME RECOGNITION THAT THE IDO WAS NOT NECESSARILY THE IDEAL DOCUMENT TO HAVE VERY DETAILED REGULATIONS RELATIVE TO HOW THESE USES OPERATE. THIS RESOLUTION PROPOSES THE APPROPRIATE CITY DEPARTMENT COME UP WITH THOSE RULE FOR OPERATION. ABSENT THIS BILL, THE IDO WOULD REMAIN IN PLACE WHICH WOULD AUTHORIZE UPON ITS EFFECTIVE DATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES REGARDLESS OF THIS BILL. IF THIS BILL PASSES, THEN IT WOULD ALSO ASK THE CITY TO COME UP WITH OPERATING PROCEDURES FOR THOSE SPACES THAT COULD HELP ADDITIONALLY GOVERN SOME OF THE POINTS THAT WEREN'T WITHIN TH IDO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WE CAN CAN STILL DEFER THIS AND WORK THROUGH IT LATER? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, YOU COULD DEFER IT. JUST TO LAY OUT SOME OF THE TIMELINE. WE ANTICIPATE THE IDO, ASSUMING IT GOES THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE HURDLES, WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE SOMEWHERE AROUND AUGUST 1. IF YOU DEFER THIS FOR 90 DAYS THERE'S A WINDOW OF BETWEEN AUGUST 1 AND THE NEXT FEW WEEKS DURING WHICH THE CITY WOULD NOT HAVE THE RULES ANTICIPATED BY THIS BILL IN PLACE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO DO IS I'M GLAD THIS IS BEING MOVED FOR DEFERRAL BECAUSE I HAD SOME RULES THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO ADD ON TO THIS. EARLIER, WE RECEIVED A WHOLE SET OF RULES ON ONE OF THE PRINT OUTS IN REFERENCE TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AND IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THE THINGS I WAS THINKING ABOUT WOULD STILL IMPORTANT AND WORK THROUGH THESE. WE SAW STUFF SUCH AS REFERRAL PROCESS, NO VIOLENCE, NO WEAPONS, NO SUBSTANCE ABUSE. NO TRADING OR SELL, NO FIRES, NO GUESTS, NO DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOR. NO DISCRIMINATION. I THINK WE CAN ADD A COUPLE MORE RULES TO THAT AND HOPE THAT ADMINISTRATION WILL LISTEN TO SOME OF THE RULES WE THINK ARE IMPORTANT AS WELL. >>COUN. BENTON: WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER COMMENTS. STARTING WITH -- I'M TRYING TO GET MY ORDER. COUNCILOR LEWIS FOLLOWED BY COUNCILOR DAVIS FOLLOWED BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK A DEFERRAL IS APPROPRIATE. WE HAVE TWO PENDING BILLS THAT WEREN'T INTRODUCED TONIGHT BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WILL BE INTRODUCED ON THE FIRST OF AUGUST. THOSE BILLS WILL PUT A MORATORIUM ON SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. AND THE OTHER WILL WOULD REVERSE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES ALTOGETHER. AND EVERY INDICATION THAT THIS COUNCIL WILL SUPPORT THIS. JUST MAKE THIS SPECIFIC BILL IS IRRELEVANT UNTIL THOSE OTHER BILLS ARE RESOLVED WHICH WE'LL SEE ON AUGUST 1st. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN SAID. THERE'S LOT OF PREZOOMING THAT THERE'S WE CAN'T -- JUST BY PASSING THIS AND DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IS NOT A BAD THING. IT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY AUTHORIZE THESE THINGS. IT SAYS GO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT WE COULDN'T FIGURE OUT. WHAT WE'VE DONE IS SAY, THIS IS A PART OF THE LONG-TERM STRATEGY AND USING LANGUAGE FROM SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCILORS BEFORE, THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED. WE NEED TO ADD LANGUAGE THAT FORCEFULLY REQUIRES THE ADMINISTRATION TO IMPLEMENT AND ENFORCE OTHER RULES IN THE CITY I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. I THINK IT'S JUST DISSENUOUS TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO THROW THIS OUT AFTER THERE'S NO RULES AFTER WE PASSED IT SAID WE NEED TO GIVE EXPERT TIME TO DEVELOP RULES. THERE'S NO DANGER TO LET THE ADMINISTRATION ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE GAVE THEM TO ANSWER AND COME BACK IN AUGUST. IF COUNCILOR BASSAN OR OTHER LEGISLATION IS TIMELY AND PREPARE ASKED READY TO GO, WE CAN DEBATE WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE AT THAT POINT TO DEFER OR HAVE A MORATORIUM OR IMPLEMENT THE RULES PROPOSED. THIS JUST SEEMS LITTLE TOO EARLY. I DON'T THINK THESE WILL WORK IF WE DON'T HAVE THE STRUCTURE WE NEED. BY DEFERRING WE'RE PROHIBITING THE STRUCTURE. WE SHOULD LET THIS GO AND BRING BACK THE RULES. I I'LL VOTE AGAINST THE DEFERRAL TO USE THE TIME IN JULY TO HAVE COOLER HEADS FOR -- PREVAIL. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I THINK THAT -- I'M TRYING TO LOWER MY HAND. THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE DO WANT TO KNOW MORE INFORMATION ABOUT A PLAN. AND YET THEY DON'T. AND I THINK THEY'RE AT THE POINT WHERE I THINK A PLAN WOULD BE GOOD. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN HEARING IS SO MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY SAYING THEY'RE REALLY DONE LISTENING AND THEY'VE MADE THEIR VOICES HEARD. AND IN AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THEY'RE INTERESTED IN DOING RIGHT NOW. I AM CONFLICTED ON WHETHER OR NOT TO PROCEED WITH THIS BECAUSE I WAS HOPEFUL I WOULD GET LATE INTRODUCTION ON THE TWO BILLS. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL REVISIT THIS IN AUGUST AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TWO BILLS THAT I WANT TO INTRODUCE. MEANING THAT RIGHT NOW SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IS NOT NEEDING TO HAVE MORE PLANNING INVOLVED. I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND THE ADMINISTRATION IS IN ORDER TO PLAN FOR THIS WHAT CITY RESOURCE AND HOW MUCH TIME AND EFFORT ARE YOU GOING TO BE PUTTING IN ON THIS BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE VOTE ON THE BILLS. IF IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INVESTING A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY AND DEPARTMENT HEAD'S TIMES AND YOU KNOW A LOT OF THAT, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT UNTIL WE KNOW REALLY HOW THE CITY IS GOING TO PROCEED. IF THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT ENDS UP BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE MININAL THAN WHAT I ASSUME IT SHOULD BE, THEN I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT TO PROCEED. HOW MUCH TIME AND RESOURCES DOES THE ADMINISTRATION EXPECT TO GIVE TO THE PLANNING PROCESS BETWEEN NOW AND AUGUST? >>COUN. BENTON: ANYONE IN THE ADMINISTRATION LIKE TO TRAESZ THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, LOOK, WE THINK THESE RULEERIZE IMPORTANT TO HAVE. AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD THE IDO DOES AUTHORIZE, IF EVERYTHING GOES ACCORDING TO PLAN. WE WOULD DEDICATE THE NECESSARY STAFF TIME AT THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL TO ENSURE WE GET THESE MOVES DONE RIGHT. WE NOW HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING WITH NEIGHBORHOODS AS IT RELATES TO GATEWAY. THE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK ALREADY. WE BELIEVE WE CONTINUE TO DO MORE WORK ON THIS AND GET A GOOD FOUNDATION FOR SETTING UP THESE RULES. WE ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM COUNCILOR SANCHEZ WHO MADE COMMENTS ABOUT A THOUGHT HE HAD AND FROM MANY OF YOU OVER THE COURSE OF JULY SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME RULES IN PLACE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. WE'RE INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE WE DO IT AND DO IT RIGHT. >>COUN. BENTON: I SEE COUNCILOR LEWIS HAS HIS HAND UP. I WANTED TO WEIGH IN FIRST. I MEAN, WHAT HARM IS THERE IN UNDERSTANDING THIS CONCEPT BETTER PRIOR TO AUGUST? OR COMING INTO AUGUST, LET'S SAY. WHEN WE DO HEAR -- A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS ARE BEING DESCRIBED AND ASSERTED OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN AUGUST. I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS ALSO TO RECOGNIZE THAT BY THE WAY ONCE THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS IN PLACE, EVEN IF IT'S CHANGED LATER, THEN IT'S IN PLACE. PEOPLE CAN APPLY TO START ONE OF THESE. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CLAIM THEY'RE READY TO. ALSO RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS HAVE SPECIAL DISPENSATION AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTING THESE WITH OR WITHOUT THE IDO RULES. AND SOME SORT OF GUIDANCE SHOULD BE IN PLACE BEFORE ANYTHING IS PROPOSED. RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY, AN OUTSIDE CHANCE, THAT THIS COULD GO IN PLACE. I THINK IT'S THE WRONG TIME LINE. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AUGUST, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AUGUST. BUT TO GO 90 DAYS IS SOMETHING I CAN'T SUPPORT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S HURT FEELINGS THAT THINGS DIDN'T GO THE WAY YOU WANTED. AT THE SAME TIME, THE DISCUSSION WE HAD EARLIER TONIGHT, OF PROVIDING ADDITIONAL CLARITY ON HOW THESE ARE PROPERLY OPERATED. AND NOT JUST RHETORIC WE HEAR AND FEAR WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THEM. COUNCILOR DAVIS SPOKE, I'LL LET COUNCILOR GROUT AND THEN COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. DOESN'T THIS RESOLUTION SAY THAT THE PROCEDURES NEED TO BE OUTLINED BY AUGUST 1st? IF WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING OR PROCEDURE IN ORDER THEN WE WON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF CONTROL OVER IT? I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW THAT I'M NOT A FAN OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I'M DEFINITELY NOT A FAN OF NOT HAVING RULES OR HAVING A CLUE OF HOW IT'S GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. I'M TOO CONFLICTED ABOUT THIS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE RULES IN PLACE. I AM NOT A FAN OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I DON'T THINK THEY WILL WORK. I ALSO DON'T WANT TO NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF ACCOUNTABILITY BY THE ADMINISTRATION EITHER. THOSE ARE MY TWO CENTS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THERE PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW MY DEFERRAL. I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO VOTE IT DOWN TONIGHT AND YOU CAN INTRODUCE IF AFTER COUNCILOR BASSAN'S BILLS ARE INTRODUCED ON AUGUST 1st. I WITHDRAW THE MOEGZ. MOTION . >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A SECOND ON WITH THE DRAW OF THE MOTION. THAT MOTION HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. I WAS ABOUT TO MAKE ANOTHER MINOR AMENDMENT. I THINK I'M JUST GOING TO NOT CONFUSE MATTERS BY MOVE THAT. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST FOR CLARITY, BECAUSE WE'VE BATTED AROUND SEVERAL THINGS. WOULD YOU PLEASE RESTATE WHAT IT IS EXACTLY THAT WE ARE VOTING ON RIGHT NOW. ? . >>COUN. JONES: I THINK IT'S YOUR LEGISLATION, COUNCILOR BASSAN? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, THIS IS NOT MY LEGISLATION. >>COUN. JONES: SORRY. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LEGISLATION BASICALLY JUST DIRECT THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO DEVELOP OPERATING PROCEDURES FOR SOS. >>COUN. JONES: I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN HOW MANY DAYS. WHICH ONE ARE WE VOTING FOR? >>COUN. BENTON: THE TIME LNZ -- TIMELINES WERE INTERACTING WITH ONE ANOTHER BECAUSE THE NEXT TIME WE'LL HEAR COUNCILOR BASSAN'S RESOLUTION IN ORDINANCE IS AUGUST 1st. THAT'S WHAT THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE TIMELINE. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE DO HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS KAREN. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BENTON COUNCILORS. MY COMMENT IS THAT IF A DECISION TO AMEND ZONING FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE IS REVERSED THAN -- WILL WIN THE DAY AND STATUS QUO WILL CONTINUE. I WILL SAY I'M EXTREMELY DISHEARTENED BY THE LACK OF COMPASSION AND EMPATHY I'VE BEEN HEARING IN MUCH OF THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AROUND SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AND MOST TROUBLING TOWARD THE VULNERABLE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESSP AND ARE SLEEPING OUTSIDE. SEVERAL COUNCILORS ARE ARGUING FOR RETURNING TO CRIMINALIZING HOMELESSNESS. ARRESTING PEOPLE FOR THE CRIME OF SLEEPING OUTDOORS ON PUBLIC LAND. THIS IS NOT A REALISTIC SOLUTION. MDC IS UNDERSTAFFED. YET THERE'S A DRUMERAL TO RAMP UP -- WE HAVE THE ACS DEPARTMENT AND THERE'S NO RATIONALE FOR THIS. WHAT I ADVOCATE FOR IS EXPANDING A CONTINUUM OF STABILITY OPTIONS THAT INCLUDES MOTEL ROOMS AND SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. BOTH OPTIONS WITH ACCOMPANYING SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. ONCE STABLED WITH A MOTEL WITH SHOWER AND STORAGE IT'S POSSIBLE FOR OUTREACH WORKERS AND STAY CONNECTED, BUILD RELATIONSHIPS, AND MEET WITH INDIVIDUALS ON A REGULAR BASIS TO OFFER A PATH FORWARD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR CITY COUNCIL ADMINISTRATION WORK HARDER TO COLLABORATE WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO PROVIDE THESE OPTIONS. YOU CAN HOUSE MORE PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY IN A CONVERTED MOTEL THAN HOUSE WITH VOUCHERS THAT AREN'T ACCEPTED IN A TIGHT RENTAL MARKET. >> YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, KAREN. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LARRY. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BENTON COUNCILORS. I THINK, COUNCILOR DAVIS SAID IT BEST, THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WAS PASSED LITERALLY AT 12:30 A.M., AND YOU KNOW THAT IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO OPEN GOVERNMENT TO TRANSPARENCY, THAT'S NOT THE WAY AN IMPORTANT ISSUE LIKE THIS SHOULD BE DEALT WITH. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DEFER ANY DECISION ENCOURAGING PROCEDURES THAT GO TO THE ADJUDICATION OF OUTDOOR SAFE SPACES. AND I'LL LEAVE IT WITH THAT. THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS -- [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> GOOD EVENING, AGAIN. I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR COMMUNITIES FOR YEARS. PREVENT -- MOST PEOPLE NEED COMMUNITY. AND DURING NATURAL DISASTERS FIMA CRISIS INTERVENTIONS INCLUDE HOUSING AS AN IMMEDIATE AND COST EFFECTIVE MEASURE. WE HAVE A HOUSING DISASTER. MY MAIN CONCERN WITH THE PROPOSED SOS IS THAT OPERATIONS PRIORITIZE -- AND FUND IT. R-22-36 PROVIDES THIS PATHWAY, THEREFORE I SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SUSAN. -PLEASE >> SUSAN, PLEASE PROCEED WITH YOUR COMMENTS. SUSAN, DID YOU WANT TO PROVIDE COMMENT? >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS RUDOLPH. IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S NOT IN THE MEETING ANYMORE. HE -- WE DID HAVE SOMEBODY ON A SAMSUNG. CAN YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF? I JUST ASKED YOU TO UNMUTE. DID YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK? >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES -- >> COUNCILOR BENTON, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE CITY. THIS IS AN OLD ISSUE. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHOSE HEART AND SOUL IS LIKE YOURS AND MINE. TO BE HEART AND SOULLESS IS NOT THE WAY WE NEED TO ACT. WE NEED TO REALIZE REALITY. THIS IS THE NEW NORMAL. WE GAVE 30% OF THE MIDDLE CLASS -- AND WE'RE THROWING MILLIONS TO THIS STREET. THIS IS A NATIONWIDE PROBLEM. WHAT WE CAN DO, MY ADVICE, IS CREATE A PRODUCT AND PROFIT FROM IT. I'M MAKING THIS LITTLE BIKES THAT HAVE A TENT ON IT AND THEY LOVE IT. THE HOMELESS LOVE IT. THEY'RE OUR CUSTOMERS. THEY'RE NOT OUR ENEMIES. THEY'RE JUST LIKE YOU ASK I. WE NEED TO HELP THEM OUT AND HAVE A HEART. THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE. NO MATTER IF YOU PUT THEM IN A PLACE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO THAT PLACE. ASK THEM WHAT THEY WANT. I TELL YOU WHAT THEY WANT BECAUSE I ASK THEM. I MAKE THE PRODUCT AND GIVE IT TO THEM. WHAT WORKS IS A BIKE WITH A LITTLE TENT IN THE PACK. I CAN PRODUCE THEM FOR 1500. AND WE CAN MAKE $300 MILLION NATIONWIDE BECAUSE WE HAVE 3 MILLION HOMELESS. I'M GOING TO TALK MORE TO YOU. THIS IS JUST COMING BACK. I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WITH MY NEIGHBORS. THEY ALMOST KICKED ME OUT OF THE BLOCK FOR BRINGING THE HOMELESS TO THE HOUSE. >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> ALL RIGHT. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SELINA. >> HELLO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I AGREE ON THIS BILL. TO GIVE IT A SHOT. WHAT MORE CAN OUR COMMUNITY LOSE BUT TO TRY TO HELP THE ONES IN NEED AND THE BROKEN. I HEARD -- I BELIEVE IT WAS COUNCILOR SANCHEZ SAY THAT YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT THE BUSINESSES OR WHAT OTHER BILLS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. I HEARD HIM MENTION THAT YOU GUYS DECIDE WHETHER TO PULL OR GIVE. I HOPE YOU CHOOSE TO GIVE TO THIS BILL. AND I KNOW THAT SOMETHING GOOD WILL COME FROM IT. >> THAT WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW IT PROBABLY DOESN'T HOLD MUCH WEIGHT WITH MANY PEOPLE. IN ORDER TO GAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE TRUST WITH MY INTENTIONS IN AUGUST, I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I KNOW MY CO-SPONSORS ARGUMENT AT THIS POINT. WE'LL GO TO VOTE ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. DAVIS: LET ME GET ON ANOTHER PHONE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >> THAT FAILS ON A 4-5 VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM WHICH IS R-43. THIS IS EXTENDING THE MORATORIUM ESTABLISHED TO PROHIBIT CANNABIS MA MANUFACTURING. OVER UNTIL OCTOBER 1, OR . >>COUN. BENTON: I MOVE A DUE PASS. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I APOLOGIZE. MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS MATTER. I WORK WITH CANNABIS COMPANIES THAT HAVE DISAGREEMENTS ABOUT THE BUSINESS. I SHOULD RECUSE MYSELF. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT, COUNCILOR DAVIS. IS THERE A SECOND? SEEING NONE. THAT BILL FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND. WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM I. R-44. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, DESIGNATING THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE'S 2022 CONGRESSIONAL DIRECT SPENDING GRANT APPLICATION TO THE 177th CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES AS FEDERAL PRIORITIES. I MOVE A DUE PASS. AND WE HAVE A FLOOR SUB. THAT SHOULD BE IN YOUR iPADS. IF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ IT, I CAN TALK ABOUT THE BILL, BRIEFLY. >>COUN. BENTON: YOU WANT TO MOVE THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE FIRST. >>COUN. PEÑA: I THOUGHT I DID. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE FLOOR SUB. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. WE'LL GO A TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0 ON FLOOR SUB. >>COUN. PEÑA: YOU HAVE A PROCEDURAL MOTION AS WELL FOR SUSPENDING THE RULES TO ALLOW THIS TO BE ADOPTED? >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO CALL ON ME, MR. PRESIDENT. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF ALLOWING R-44 TO BE ADOPTED THE SAME EVENING AS SUBSTITUTED. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. THIS IS ON THE SUSPENSION OF RULES, REQUIRING TWO-THIRDS OF COUNCILORS PRESENT. NO OTHER COMMENTS, WE GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE RESOLUTION, I JUST WANT TO REALLY START BY THANKING PEOPLE THAT WORKED HARD ON IT. I SEE TOM. LET ME HAVE YOU EXPLAIN THE BILL AND I'LL GIVE MY COMMENT AFTERWARDS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, BASICALLY, UNDER THE CITY ORDINANCES THE COUNCIL PASSES A FEDERAL PRIORITY BILL EVERY YEAR. HOWEVER, WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF EARMARKS, THE CALL FOR EARMARKS COMES OUT AFTER WE PASS THE BILL WHICH IS AFTER THE END OF THE YEAR. WE HAVE TO DO A FOLLOW UP BILL TO PUT IN AS PRIORITIES EARMARKS. BECAUSE WHEN WE PUT THE EARMARK TO THE CONGRESS, THEY REQUEST THEY BE PART OF POLICIES. WHICH MEANS ADOPT RESOLUTION. THIS ADDS THAT LIST. THAT IS THE PURPOSE FOR THE BILL. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, TOM. I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO IS ON THE IGR COMMITTEE. I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE. JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE GET A HANDLE ON ALL OF OUR PRIORITIES AS WE KNOW WE HAVE NINE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT AND THE MAYOR AND WE ALL HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF PRIORITIES WITHIN RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS. PUTTING THIS LIST TOGETHER IS ALWAYS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE. THERE'S PROJECTS THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANCE AND REALLY PROJECTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE GOING TO HELP BENEFIT ALL OF YOUR CONSTITUENTANCIES. A FEW PROJECTS ARE THE ALAMEDA LITTLE BEING, ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT MOBILE TRAINING. AND I'M GIVING A FEW EXAMPLES OF CRIMINAL EMERGENCY OPERATIONS. THE GIBSON CENTER. AND WE HAVE SPECIFIC INTERPRET VEN ENHANCEMENTS. TRAMWAY LANDSCALANDSCAPING. THE YOUTH CENTER, VIOLENCE INTERVENTION PROGRAM. THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS IN HERE THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I JUST APPRECIATE EVERYBODY WHO PUT IT TOGETHER. OUR CITY STAFF, ADMINISTRATION, ALL YOUR INPUT AND OBVIOUSLY ALL THE FOLKS FROM THE COMMITTEE. WITH THAT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0 ON R-44 AS SUBZ -- SUBSTITUTED. >>COUN. BENTON: NEXT IS COUNCILOR BASSAN. R-47. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, R-47 IS APPROPRIATING FUNDING FROM THE SECOND -- FOR THE UPPERSES OF PANDEMIC RESPONSE, INVESTMENT AND SUPPORT FOR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. WE HAD A NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: FLOOR AMENDMENT ONE, THE GOAL HERE IS TO MOVE SOME FUNDS INTO OUR HOMELESS SHELTER THAT COUNCILOR GROUT AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON. I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN TO SAY ON PAGE TWO, WE WOULD DELETE LINE TEN. AND MAKE THE YOUTH SHELTER ONLINE 16 BE $3.7 MILLION. AND ON PAGE THREE, WE WOULD CHANGE THE GIBSON HEALTH HUB $10 MILLION AMOUNT TO $6.7 MILLION. IT'S CHANGING THE ADDITIONAL $2.2 MILLION FOR THE YOUTH HOMELESS SHELTER PROJECT. >>COUN. BENTON: COULD YOU RESTATE THAT? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES, SIR. THANK YOU. ON PAGE TWO, DELETE LINE TEN. WHICH IS $2.2 MILLION. MOVE THAT $2.2 MILLION TO LINE 16, YOUTH SHELTER. FOR A TOTAL OF THE DIRECT PAYMENT IN THE SECTION TO $3.7 MILLION. AND ON PAGE THREE, INSTEAD OF CHANGING $10 MILLION YOU WOULD CHANGE IT TO $6.7 MILLION. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. >>COUN. JONES: I HAVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. >>COUN. BENTON: WE HAVEN'T PASSED FLOOR AMENDMENT ONE FIRST. HANG ON. WE'RE STILL ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. YES -- I DON'T KNOW WHO IS SPEAKING. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS LAWRENCE. I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION TO COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN FOR WORKING WITH US ON THIS AMENDMENT. WE WANTED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY AS IT RELATES TO THE FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR PHASE TWO OF GIBSON. AND THIS AMENDMENT DOES THAT. THE YOUTH SHELTER IS ALSO IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE WORK WE'RE DOING. SO WE SUPPORT THAT IN THE EFFORTS AS WELL. WE THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK ON THE AMENDMENT. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DUG, WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK TO COUNCILOR JONES FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS ALSO MOVING A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY OUT OF THAT. IT IS PAGE THREE, AFTER LINE EIGHT, INSERT THE FOLLOWING. HEARD SECURITY, TRANSFER FROM FUND $250,000. ON PAGE THREE, LINE TEN, CHANGE THE AMOUNT FROM $10 MILLION, TO $9.75 MILLION. AND THE REASON I'M PUTTING THIS AMENDMENT IS IT REDIRECTS $250,000 FROM THE GIBSON HEALTH TO COMBATTING FOOD INSECURITY. IT'S AN ELIGIBLE USE OF ARPA FUNDS. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I'M WONDERING -- I MEAN I'M ALL FOR ADDRESSING AND HELPING FOOD INSECURITY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR ALLOCATING MONEY SOMEWHERE? HOW DOES THAT LOOK? >>COUN. JONES: THE IDEA IS TO GIVE IT TO ANYONE OF THE SHELTERS OR THE FACILITIES FOR PEOPLE WHO HELP TO FEED THE PUBLIC. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, WOULD IT BE ACCEPTABLE TO ADD IN THE NAME OF SAID FACILITIES? RATHER THAN JUST SAYING FUNDING FOR FOOD INSECURITY? I'M WORRIED THAT WILL GET LOST IN SOME MIX AT HAD -- SOME POINT. >>COUN. JONES: WE COULD BE THINKING THE FOOD BANKS. WHATEVER YOU LIKE. THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS TO DO IT HERE. I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC CHARITY FOR IT. THERE'S SO MANY THAT ARE FEEDING THE HOMELESS THAT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PUT TO HOW I -- >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, DOES THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE ANY PREFERRED LOCATION. I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE JUST SAYING WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT TO FOOD INSECURITY. THAT'S QUITE VAGUE. >>COUN. BENTON: MAYBE THERE'S SOMEBODY TO ANSWER A QUESTION FOR YOU. >>COUN. JONES: I THINK I HAVE IT RIGHT NOW. IT IS SPECIFICALLY THAT IT WOULD BE GOING TO CNM BECAUSE THEY ARE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO. THEY ARE THE SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION. >>COUN. BENTON: THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE? >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: BEAR WITH ME, COUNCILOR BASSAN. LET'S HEAR FROM MR. MUNIZ. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR JONES, WE RECEIVED A SPECIFIC REQUEST FROM CNM AND THEIR FOOD BANK TO USE ARPA FUNDS TO RESTOCK THE FOOD BANK TO ADDRESS THE FOOD INSECURITY ISSUE. SINCE THIS IS ELIGIBLE THROUGH ARPA WE PUT FORTH THE AMENDMENT TO FULFILL THE REQUEST. THE REQUEST WAS FOR A MILLION DOLLARS. WITH THIS LATE IN THE GAME WE FIGURED THIS IS WHAT WE COULD DO AT THIS TIME. WITH THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY. SPECIFICALLY, IT IS FOR CNM AND THEIR FOOD BANK PROGRAM. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD BE IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS IF WE MAKE SURE TO ADD THAT TO THIS AMENDMENT SO THE ALLOCATION IS SPECIFIC. >>COUN. JONES: I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: WE WILL ADMINISTRATIVELY SPECIFY THIS IS GOING TO CNM FOOD BANK? >>COUN. JONES: YES, PLEASE. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CONSIDER THAT A FRIENDY AMENDMENT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION WITH THIS AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO? >>COUN. JONES: I WORK YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0 ON AMENDMENT TWO. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES. AND WE HAVE ONE MORE AMENDMENT FROM COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. THIS WILL BE -- NUMBER THREE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. AMENDMENT THREE. ON PAGE THREE, AFTER LINE FOUR INSERT THE FOLLOWING. FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT SERVICES FUND 305, PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING TRANSFER FROM FUND 110, $150,000. CHANGE THE AMOUNT FROM $10 MILLION TO $9.85 MILLION. EXPLANATION, THIS AMENDMENT APPROPRIATES $150,000 FROM THE SECOND TRAFRN -- >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THE U.S. TREASURY RECIPIENTS MAY USE ARPA FUNDS TO USE AND IMPLEMENT NEW TECHNOLOGY AND TOOLS TO EFFECTIVELY, DEVELOP, AND EXECUTE PROGRAMS. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: WE HAVE A MOTION AND DID WE GET A SECOND ON THAT? COUNCILOR GROUT SECONDED. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE? SEEING NONE. MS. ORTEGA TO CALL THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> ARE WE BACK? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0 ON AMENDMENT THREE. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY THAT TWO TEXT AFTER THE AMENDMENT THAT I PASSED AND BOTH HAD AN UNDERSTANDING. I WANTED TO VERIFY THAT FLOOR AMENDMENT ONE ON THIS BILL DID FOUR THINGS. IT DELETED ORIGINAL LINE TEN. IT CHANGED LINE 16 TO $3.7 MILLION. ON PAGE TWO, IT CHANGED LINE TEN TO $6.7 MILLION. AND IT INSERTED A NEW LINE UNDER FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES FOR YOUTH HOMELESS SHELTER OF $3.3 MILLION. JUST VERIFY THAT WAS WHAT THE NOTE TAKERS GOT. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. I'M GETTING A NOD. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. COUNCILOR BASSAN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: I'D LIKE TO REVISIT R-43. I'M SORRY. R-43. I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE A SECOND FOR YOU ON THAT BILL. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL GO BACK TO R-43 AND GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF. R-43 IS MOVED AND SECONDED. IT'S EXTENDING THE MORATORIUM ON CANNABIS RETAIL IN OLD TOWN UNTIL AUGUST OR UNTIL THE IDO BECOMES EFFECTIVE. THE SOONER OF THE TWO DATES. THAT'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. THIS IS SIMPLY TO -- THIS IS A MORATORIUM THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE AND KEEP IT IN LINE WITH THE ENACTMENT OF IDO. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. DAVIS: I HAVE TO RECUSE, MADAM CLERK. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES. 6-2. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL GO BACK TO ITEM K. R-49. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. R-49 AMENDING THE CIP PROJECT. FOR CHANING -- I MOVE A DUE PASS. I BELIEVE YOU'RE MUTED. >>COUN. BENTON: WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. DAVIS: I BELIEVE WE HAVE A FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. IT IS AN AVAILABLE. I MOVE FLOOR SUBFOR R-49. >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL SECOND THAT. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? >>COUN. DAVIS: I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYTHING UNUSUAL ABOUT THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE FLOOR SUB. TIME FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0 ON THE FLOOR SUB. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS SUBSTITUTED. >>COUN. DAVIS: THIS ITEM IS BY REQUEST. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: I HAD A NOTE FOR POSSIBLE DEFERRAL. JUST TO BE CLEAR. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THERE ARE SOME FUNDS PART OF THIS BILL. WE WOULD REQUEST IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PASS IT TONIGHT, WE SHOULD. JUST GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT TAKES TIME TO GET THE STATE DOLLARS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE. IF YOU ALL ARE INCLINED TO DO SO, IT WOULD BE GOOD. >>COUN. BENTON: I JUST SAW THAT ON THE SCRIPT IT WAS A POSSIBLE DEFERRAL. IF THERE'S NONE BY THE SPONSOR, OR ANYONE ELSE, WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE ON THE BILL. I CALL ON COUNCILOR DAVIS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. DAVIS: AGAIN, THIS IS MY BEREQUEST. THE ADMINISTRATION URGES YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. NEXT IS ITEM L. THIS IS MY SPONSORSHIP. THIS IS ADOPTING THE ELCAMINO NATIONAL HISTORIC TRAIL DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT PLAN. I MOVE A DUE PASS. THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? COUNCILORS, THIS IS A COMMUNITY-WIDE EFFORT INVOLVED. THE ADMINISTRATION, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, AND OPEN SPACE, AND INVOLVED AS WELL AS BERNALILLO COUNTY. THIS IS FOR THE TRAIL PLAN. IT'S ALL THE WAY FROM DOWN SOUTH TO WAY UP NORTH AND TWO OR DIFFERENT ALIGNMENTS. WE HAD A PRESENTATION TWO MEETINGS BACK. BY RICHARD MEADOWS FROM THE COUNTY. IT'S AN EXCITING PROJECT. CELEBRATES OUR CULTURE. REALLY GOOD STUFF. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. UNLESS THERE'S ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IT'S GETTING LATE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BENTON: LAST BUT NOT LEAST, COUNCILOR DAVIS, R-A 55. >>COUN. DAVIS: IT SIMPLY EXTENDS THE STAY OF ENFORCEMENT OF THE ALBUQUERQUE TAX PREPARER ORDINANCE. THIS IS WAS AN ORDINANCE PASSED DURING THE PANDEMIC. IT NEED AS LITTLE TWEAK. THE COUNCIL EXTENDED ENFORCEMENT INTENDED FOR THE END OF THIS YEAR. THAT NEW BILL IS CURRENTLY PENDING WITH CITY LEGAL. WE'LL HAVE IT BACK FOR AUGUST. THIS EXTENDS THAT STAY FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THAT. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY OTHER FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THAT YOU HAPPENING, -- >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'M UNCLEAR WHY IT'S TAKING SO LONG TO GET THE NECESSARY AMENDMENTS. CAN SOMEONE SPEAK TO THE BACKGROUND ON THIS? >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK I CAN SPEAK BEST TO THIS. I'M HAPPY IF THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO WEIGH IN. THERE'S NOT A DISAGREEMENT. THE ORIGINAL BILL PRESENTED, THE SPONSOR DIDN'T GET THE RIGHT VETTING. IT WASN'T ENFORCEABLE. IT HAD LANGUAGE THAT DIDN'T APRY PLY TO THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: >>COUN. DAVIS: HOWEVER, THERE NEEDS TO BE BETTER PROCESS WITH THE CITY LEGAL, WITH THE NEW SECOND TERM ABOUT HOW TO CREATE ENFORCEMENT PROTOCOL. WE HAVE A NEW CITY ATTORNEY WHO CAN WEIGH IN THAT. THAT'S BEEN PART OF THE DELAY. THE INDUSTRY JUST WRAPPED UP BIG TAX SEASON. IT'S NOT ANTICIPATED WE WON'T GET IT DONE. IT'S A MATTER OF GETTING THE RIGHT PIECES AND RIGHT PEOPLE SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK A THIRD TIME. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT. IS THE INTENTION THAT THE REVIVED BILL WILL COME BACK ON AUGUST 1st? >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THAT IS THE INTENTION. THE DRAFT IS CIRCULATING. I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT AND LOVE YOUR INPUT. WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET IT INTO THE COMMITTEE SYSTEM IN TIME. I FELT LIKE IT WASN'T APPROPRIATE TO DO THIS ON IMMEDIATE ACTION WITHOUT CONVERSATION. I'LL SAY WE GOT BUSY WITH A THOUSAND OTHER THINGS AND WAITING FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. WHEN THE NEW MEXICO CENTER FOR LAW AND POVERTY AND SAYS THEY DON'T LIKE A BILL, IT REALLY MAKES ME PAY ATTENTION. IT MAKES HE NERVOUS. I'M FINE WITH SUPPORTING A DEFERRAL, BUT WE NEED TO MOVE ON THIS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, IT IS NOT MY INTENTION TO REPEAL THIS BILL. IT'S MY INTENTION TO GET IT RIGHT AND HAVE ENFORCEABLE BILL BY THE TIME WE GET TO TAX SEASON. >>COUN. BENTON: WE HAVE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN FOLLOWED BY COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, MY APOLOGIES. I SHOULD HAVE REMOVED MY HAND AS COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN HAD MY CONCERN. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, I THINK YOU ANSWERED THIS. I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST, OBVIOUSLY IT'S YOUR BILL, I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST JUST A MAYBE WITHDRAW THIS IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S STARTING OVER. I ASK IF THE INDUSTRY HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN IT. IS THERE SUPPORT FROM THE INDUSTRY ON IT? I KNOW THEY SUPPORT A MORATORIUM ON IT AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THIS BILL. I GUESS I WANT TO ASK WHAT THE DRAFT DOES AND IF IT'S WORTH STARTING OVER? OR AMENDING THIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR LEWIS, THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES. THEY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED. THEY DRAFTED SOME OF THE NEW AMENDMENTS. THEY UNDERSTAND THAT OUR INTENT IS NOT TO REPEAL THE ENTIRE LAW BUT MAKE IT USABLE. THEY MADE SOME AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD HELP US DO THE NOTICED. AND HELP CREATE THE CIVIL ENFORCEMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND SO, I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO COUNSEL SHARING IT WITH YOU. IT'S DRAFTED AND READY. I DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE TO ASK FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION ON IT TONIGHT. INDUSTRY WEIGHED IN AND I FELT THE CITY ATTORNEY NEEDED TO AS WELL. SLUFRT I'M HAPPY TO SHARE SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU AS WELL. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR DAVIS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. DAVIS: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS. THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS ADJOURNED.