[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] I'll be here with you all night in your eyes I'm [Music] broken scream [Music] [Music] [Music] I'll be here with you all night [Music] eyes Bren you're can you hear me [Music] now can you hear me [Music] now now feeling low I need it more when you're close to me close to me close [Music] to Meen screaming can you hear me can you hear me [Music] [Music] now he [Music] [Music] he he [Music] [Music] [Music] he [Music] every e uh the study session for Monday uh June 21st is called to order uh would the clerk please call the rooll mayor Kaufman here mayor proin Bergen here council member bersin here council member present council member Gardner here council member guber here council member hiltz here council member Lawson here council member Marcano present and council member marel present I'm having some bandwidth issues so might be on and off camera uh Public Public Announcement for the call in line thank you for joining tonight's Aurora city council study session if you are listening on the phone please note public comments are not taken during study sessions the phone line is in listen only mode the council welcomes comments from residents at regular Council meetings on both matters appearing on the agenda and during public invited to be heard sign up on those evenings begins at 6 pm thank you um a May's update um I just want to say that um there will be uh a presentation in study session uh on uh July 19th Monday July 19th uh by the chief of police to talk about uh gun violence in our city and and uh what actions she's taking and uh uh there will be obviously an opportunity for myself and council members to ask questions and uh this will uh be available to the public as well are there any issue updates mayor I have a question versin Council versin thank you do we have any instructions for Wednesday at five o'clock what are we supposed to do where where what I mean what are what are our instructions um are you referring to the the vote on the vacancy or I'm sorry Wednesday at five o'clock the questions the questions council member bersin and mayor if I may this is yes please I I I'm going to send out some instructions either later this evening or tomorrow for Council and I believe at the end of the this meeting um Dan is going to review the interviews and voting process as well great thank you okay uh this time we have a presentation by Aurora mental health that I I request oh council member grber yeah I just wanted to point out that there was a shooting this afternoon in Arvada um an officer was killed in the my gosh relased yet um you know following the officer uh who was shot in Boulder um I just wanted to pass on my condolences and and I suspect everyone on councel uh the uh the people of Rada for uh the loss of one of their finest wow I'd like to have a moment of silence if I could uh for the Fallen officer thank you council member kber I was unaware of that um I asked the award mental health to give a presentation World Mental Health Center uh because they're doing a lot of uh issues involving homelessness uh uh and so we had a presentation by Rao County as well uh as we are able to draw down uh federal dollars to address the issue of homelessness I think it's important that we know uh what other entities are are doing in our city um and so um um let's see uh Debbie Stafford uh former state representative deby Stafford if you could uh give the presentation please uh thank you mayor coffin members um are you able to hear me okay I've got this black square square right in the middle of the screen and I can't get it out of there uh there we go I'm Debbie Stafford uh with the aora Mental Health Center thank you uh mayor Coffman and members of city council for allowing us to join you this evening we have several members from our team Kathy Snell uh will be presenting she is our our chief uh uh uh development officer and she will be presenting our PowerPoint at this time I think we're also joined by dry Phillips Henry our chief executive officer and also by Loretta Buckman our Chief Financial Officer thank you Debbie I am somewhat unfamiliar with this particular platform so I am working on getting this shared and I know Kelly um is also working on making sure that she can be on today she's struggling a little bit with um with the application as well so I am not finding my PowerPoint I may need Lana I may need your help I'm seeing um just not seeing on my screen as something that's sharable no worries um Katie if you wouldn't mind giving me the ability to present I can uh share their PowerPoint okay appreciate that thank you over the the presenter to you thank you Lana appreciate it well first we just wanted to give you an overview of what we be discussing today and um we are starting to talk just with some general information about enironmental health center our service Continuum and really how we serve as a safety net provider in our community we want to talk a little bit very briefly about the pandemic impacts and the state of Behavioral Health based on the impacts we want to really focus today on the alignment between homelessness Behavioral Health and housing which we think is um is a place where we have some solutions that we would like to provide and we would really like to discuss those with you today Kathy I I figured it out yay Kelly you're here I am do apologize but probably like many of you I had to ask for my it support here at the house which of course was my wonderful husband so I apologize this is my first time using WebEx so thanks Kathy so if if we go ahead Kathy and Advance the slide uh again we we appreciate your time and we know that you know us and we want you all to hear that we are the committed Community Mental Health Center in the city of Aurora we are your only Community Mental Health Center there are 17 state wide uh as most of you know we've been around a long time we've been here since 1975 and we hold a unique statutory Authority that only licensed Community Mental Health Centers do which requires us to serve all key Continuum of services whether you make money or not and that's a big difference between what we do in this community versus other private providers that will go in and pick and choose in terms of what types of services we serve a complete safety net which means we have to offer um a wide range of services that meet the needs for that safety net next slide uh as you might know we have more than one location we thought this might be the easiest way just to refresh your memory of where we are across our community uh and these are locations that are truly bricks and mortar at this point it goes without saying over the last 15 to 16 months uh that the place we are most right now is just what we are all doing which is through tah Health we served more folks last year in tah Health then we sered even folks coming in our door the year before and that will speak to some of the demand that we address a little bit later on uh in addition to having buildings that we serve our aging Community our young children our adolescence and youth as well as our adult population we're also very embedded in the community and those are the bullets that you see to the right of the map uh we're very proud of our partnership in both school districts uh we're proud of the work we do in criminal justice we're proud of our partnership with the Department of Human Services as well as some of the other specialty ages that we serve through many of our Partnerships next slide K so I think one of the most helpful things to look at is some feedback that was provided to the office of Behavioral Health at the state of Colorado level when they contracted with Health Management Associates HMA to look at what are the gaps and what is going well in the state of Behavioral Health across Colorado the way hm organized their findings are in those five key gray areas in terms of what needs are being met or where there are gaps uh it's a very large state report on one of my slides coming up you'll see the link uh that we've provided you all if you're interested in reading the full report but we what we thought would be helpful is for you to see where we as a mental health center are addressing through our services those five key domains and so from our Outreach in the community the education we provide the consultation we provide to some of what we would consider early identification and intervention services sometimes with our younger audiences and that obviously is key so that we have children and youth that are getting a addressed right when those issues are happening it doesn't carry into their adulthood to our key community- based treatment services and you can see the Myriad of services uh that we offer and many of those being required Services we must offer as a Community Mental Health Center uh a big one of those as it relates to the community we serve uh is asian-pacific Development Center is a part of Aurora Mental Health Center they're one of our subsidiaries and so we serve a very diverse Community as we're proud as folks from Aurora to say that this is a key piece of of what we do in our community but a lot of specialty services our clinicians speak over 40 languages we also have critical 247 Services uh walk-in services so that people don't need to wait uh we also have a crisis response team that partners with our police department and getting ready to start a second pilot that includes with faul ambulance in the city we have our 247 stabilization units for both detoxification from sub substance use as well as crisis and then finally we have three residential treatment facilities one specific to Veterans uh and then finally we do a lot with folks in relapse and Recovery uh and so those are many of our community engagement pieces there and so we work hard to make sure that our services align with the key areas provided by that report next slide if it wants to move there we go uh and so one of our biggest priorities is to make sure we meet the safety net population as I mentioned before we have many critical Partners in the community that serve Behavioral Health needs and when I say Behavioral Health that includes mental health and addictions treatment um but our Focus primarily is that safety net community and so you can see that the safety net Services we provide reach every aspect of critical care many times to the folks most severely affected by mental illness and addiction um that obviously comes with a federal poverty level in which that we target serving uh we are one of the largest Medicaid providers in the city of Aurora and in the county of arapo uh and we want to make sure that we meet those needs um and when what we have seen both in National research state research as well as in our catchman area is that safety net communities really do have a higher incidence of both a mental health disorder and or a co-occurring addictions disorder and so they're more at risk for these situations and we want to make sure whether it's something that is temporary that they're experiencing or if it is a chronic illness that we have those services to meet their needs um The Source at the bottom addresses the study that uh I referenced in that last slide with the five gray boxes but we do make sure we address those gaps in care and that's what those last two purple bullets speak to next slide Kathy so why are we here in front of you uh we know that you all are very busy and your agendas are very packed we want to talk with you about what's happened through the pandemic and I think you all know just as well as we do there's never been a greater demand for mental health and addiction treatment services so these six key bullets really reflect both from strong research and what we're seeing in the data as well as anecdotally what we are all hearing every day experiencing walking through our waiting rooms as well as finally um having some national and international spokespeople to speak on addictions uh and mental health in our country and around the world um higher levels of addiction than ever before through covid uh you can see that we have had a 59% increase in our opioid deaths uh we have a lot of isolation occurring which for many leads to a higher risk of a suicide attempt Andor completion uh and what we see is as some of that stigma is lifting about getting help which we love the demand is absolutely something we've never experienced before and to what Healthcare policy and finance is calling the mental health tsunami uh and that is actually a term that they are using based on the Actuarial work that their firm has done to predict what we are likely to see in the next 12 to 18 months so in red what we want to highlight is that due to all of these factors um it interweaves very tightly with homelessness and risk for homeless and we're very committed to this population we always have been and want we want really want to be a part of this solution going forward and we have some new ideas on how to expand those services and be a tighter resource not only for that community that is homeless but in preventing those of becoming homeless and that also means we need to work very closely with our city and county Partners next slide there's a weird delay on the slides go to the next slide I apologize I don't know if it did or not on your end okay we have the slide but I think Kathy we're not hearing you so I'm not real clear I apologize I'm speaking and um clearly I was on mute sorry about that thank you so much for your help Lana we are on the right side uh homelessness what we know about the population of individuals experiencing homelessness is that 45% almost half have a mental illness and sometimes when you see statistics on this population it's even higher than that at least 60% have a substance use disorder many times those disorders cooccur so the vast majority of individuals experiencing homelessness have a behavioral health diagnosis and it's a really complicated two-way relationship between mental illness and addiction and homelessness we do know that mental mental illness and addiction precede homelessness in two-thirds of the cases so there's that is a clear indicator and risk factor for homelessness and in and then on the other side of the equation homelessness causes trauma that can really worsen symptoms that can make it difficult for people to access care leads to higher levels of distress and substance abuse and just increases the likelihood that homelessness will become a chronic condition and lead to earlier death next slide so at Aurora mental health we have our program called Pathways to home or path for short and it is a service that addresses homelessness using the housing first model we meet clients where they are and provide immediate supports and immediate treatments and really the unique thing about our piece of the homeless puzzle in the city of Aurora is that we're targeting those individuals with behavioral health conditions and we're providing Specialized Care so we join you in the belief that it really takes a collaborative effort to address this very difficult and complex issue in our community and our piece really is that behavioral health piece our services fall into three General categories one is Street Outreach where we have we have our staff out on the streets um contacting folks where they are and providing immediate Services when someone is addressed um D through Street Outreach they are always invited to our drop in care we offer dropin care daily and anyone can come into our building at 1544 Elmyra we have therapists there we have case managers we have base basic needs that we can help individuals meet and we also provide that care at the day resource center with staff there as well and then finally we do partner with uh Aurora worms the night and the Salvation Army to provide mobile Outreach to go out in a van and address people where they are in the community this service includes additionally psychiatry in our dropin care site next slide so unfortunately funding for services for those experiencing homelessness is a complicated picture as you can see from this slide there are eight different funding sources that we braid together to make these Services possible so you can see the different sources for those funds and you can see what they're addressing in our Continuum and the amount of those funds so we spend a lot of our time seeking support to be able to provide these really important services in our community working with funders providing reports about what we're doing providing match funds for a variety of these funders to really just complete the picture so that we can meet the needs of the community and you can see some of the numbers of services um and individuals that we're contacting in the community and as you'll see several of these sources do come from the generous support of the city of Aurora next slide this just gives you an indication of the a number of services and clients that we've served we decided to go ahead and use data from the past two years because the pandemic really skewed our data while we're really as we're coming out of the pandemic we're seeing more and more demand but the P when when we were in the midst we we did not necessarily see the same number of clients but we have seen a total of almost 3,000 unique clients in our path program over the past two years um that have are experiencing homelessness based on our electronic health record and I I'm sorry I misspoke 869 of those clients have been seen in path the remainder of those almost 3,000 clients have been seen throughout our organization so we see home Hess homeless individuals across all of our service lines this is just an idea um for you of the demographics of that population next slide this is a a little more detailed view of where we serve individuals experiencing homelessness so where do these Services really intersect and how do they come together across the service Continuum that Kelly showed you a bit earlier so our connect to care site our crisis we see a a large number of homeless individuals both in walk-in and our crisis stabilization unit um in the services we provide in the jail the largest is in our East Metro detox and Recovery Services Program which is probably not a surprise we work hard to try to connect those individuals into services following a detox day but that is notoriously a difficult thing to do to connect people and and and motivate individuals to uh seek and uh take part in outpatient care we also provide services through our physicians and nurse practitioners and all of our outpatient offices next slide so using the same Continuum of Care that Kelly mentioned from the behavioral health needs assessment in 2020 this gives you an idea of the types of services we're providing at those various levels to individuals either at risk for homelessness or experiencing homelessness so we are providing training in our community that helps individuals recognize when a mental health disorder may be a part of the picture with someone and gives them ideas about how to make referrals we work um with a number of we collaborate with a number of groups in the community with uh Aurora at home we uh partner with the goals program we're a part of the arabo county homeless task force so we do what we can to be a part of the prevention solution in our community and then we work through the Continuum to assess every individual that comes through our door for their housing stability and if we encounter someone who may be in unstable housing situation or experiencing homelessness we connect them with resources we provide them directly with resources that are funded through some of the grant mechanisms that we demonstrated a little bit earlier um in order to address that homelessness in the population we provide those Services certainly um as I mentioned in our 24-hour facilities and then in um with peer recovery trying to connect people with those who who' had lived experience either with homelessness and with Substance Abuse and Mental Health disorders next slide so finally the problem that we want to um provide a solution for today is that our crisis Services while they're well utilized by the homeless population they are um on the an shs campus at 2206 Victor Street and there are several challenges with that location the first is that it's relatively difficult to find our First Responders know where we are but the general public um has a bit of a hard time finding it there's not great signage and that is based on um just standards um with the the Redevelopment Authority it um we're unable to really remodel that for the effective use that we need it for it is an old Barracks that is um very very solidly built shall we say and generally we are unwelcome in quotes on the anshutz campus and I think that that is to say that the way the campus has developed they're um treating the population that we treat is um not necessarily seen as a good fit for the campus itself we we also know that First Responders have to choose where to access Services um they might come to our crisis services on the anuts campus they might come to our connected care site um on Chambers Road or they might come to our detox facility um on South pomac and we think that that's a challenge that we can overcome so that First Responders don't need to spend their time trying to decide where to go but that we can help help with that we um know that there's challenges with detox capacity certainly there were significant challenges pre pandemic and we're we're seeing those numbers come back up and um there are not uh sufficient there is not sufficient access to opioid interventions in our community and generally as hard as we try to make sure that our services are easy to access that they're provided in a variety of community locations we still get reports that it is difficult to access Services overall and so we want to address that issue as well next slide Letta Spirit need to so I hope you can hear me I technical issues um but here we are this is the plan that we have in mind we have had over year due diligence as it relates to this and we're referring to this as a safety net campus plan there thrill build three buildings on our 7.3 acre lot you'll see a there is where we planning to have a 247 365 day a year cute Care Facility um on B we're planning to partner with stride who's providing Primary Care Services as well as Oral Care Etc that's in line with the mission in terms of serving the underserved relative also to the safety net population and along with that you'll see the building to the right uh we named it uh C building we are looking at the potential for affordable housing transitional housing and the life and having done some estimations we're expecting that to be about 18 to 25 million relative to 100 unit multi family unit building so moving along to the next slide okay so the solution around this Kathy's already described this in summarize just U quick summary highly accessible location backs up to i225 centr centrally located en closed part of the healthcare Corridor of course it's a one stop for First Responders which is important for us access to residents for acute care facilities Etc and ongoing care we have an opportunity to partner with a primary care provider which I mentioned earlier stride and it's opportunity for us to partner collaborate with um initiatives around affordable housing transitional housing and of course that would enhance our ability to um Implement path client uh program outcomes if you will of course the services around primarily around critical care for population that's experiencing homeless SES as um will be mentioned in the following slide moving forward next slide thank you um again this is kind of reiterates what we stated earlier we have many programs um at the center both outpatient impatient related programs that specialize in various acute care and as you could see to the right of this table it speaks to the number of homeless clients we serve um advancing to the next slide okay so where we are in terms of progress to our implementation of the safety net campus plan we have um interviewed many land developers in the process of due diligence we've narrowed it down to three land developers and clearly uh we're looking at opportunity costs as it as it relates to maximizing the use of the land as well as initiatives as it aligns with our needs so here we are you'll see the green circle there we're there in terms of due diligence and looking at financing opportunities at this point in time let look at Advance to the next slide and I'll I'll let Kelly take over this pace great and so we are wrapping up we want to allow Q&A but it would be remiss if we didn't point out that we are trying to work within your own housing strategy policy we've circled the areas we believe we are relevant there and want to help you all make a difference as we looked at this property um let me just share with you there was a lot of due diligence done to make sure we were getting getting a property in the right area to address these problems um that our community is facing uh many times with safety net and the homeless separate studies done by stride our own internal heat mapping as well as a heat mapping done by kushman and Whitefield and they are our commercial real estate Representatives all pinpoint the Mississippi area as the right area to be in for these types of services and so that's largely our vision is to bring the care to the right part of the community next slide and so our sweet spot is really that right poverty level aligned with what we're looking at with you all the population we serve through our safety net services and now the creation of a safety net campus uh to really hit some of the same targets that you all are looking at and studying uh potentially using some of that arpa funding next slide so really what we want to be is a part of the conversation with you all going forward uh we're looking at obviously braiding funding which is what Community Mental Health Centers do best you can see some of the different places that we've been reaching out and will be reaching out to to consider how we find the right solution to fund this campus in the community um as you can see there's a couple of different projects we'll be working on as we go forward yes we'll be meeting with the a Housing Authority we also will sit on the board of aora at home but right now our focus is on this safety net campus and getting it right for our community best practice across the state is relocating all of these services for a One-Stop shop for emergency personnel and for the community and that's what we're working towards and we'll pause and take questions uh questions yes mayor uh Council M uh mayor P Bergen thank you and thank you for the presentation um I think it's it's really important that we understand all the resources that you provide and especially your partnership with the city I have a couple questions um when you were doing um like Revenue sources and I think it I think you were pertaining just to path maybe that's why I was looking at the annual report which is different because I think that encompasses all your programs but do you get money from the county on the pathways to home we have um I we have had some small grants for very specific targeted things from the county but not generally okay so neither from Adams nor arapo not not directed to the pathways to home program no okay and then and I'm really interested in the detox program and I think I misunderstood it I think I sent some questions in to Elena earlier last week and um so it is a 72h hour kind of hold right when they get referred over it's not no it it is not it is um essentially a detox process program so some clients they uh may be already partially through the detoxification process when they arrive so they would be there for a shorter period of time they are typically not on a mental health hold while they're in the okay so if but if it's one of our street Outreach case managers that let's say you know talks to one of our homeless um people and they and and they obviously have a drug addiction problem and and we say would you do you need help I mean if it's really so if it's really bad would they then take them to your to the detox facility onomic they might um they might be part of getting them admitted to detox they could reach out to our detox facility we do provide transportation so we pick Folks up at a variety of different Community locations most notably at emergency departments to get folks out of those emergency rooms but um at locations across across the area so they could yeah and I would imagine it's probably quite a chance to maybe even get someone to volunteer to go through Fox programs probably correct I think that a lot of the folks who come to detox are brought by law enforcement which is obviously a very different approach okay and then my last question um is I'm in the Cherry Creek School District and so I don't know if this applies to Aurora Public Schools but we passed um in the last election a bond and I believe um in the bond there was um Capital uh monies put towards facilities that would be for mental health is that specic specifically for the the you know the kids that are in the school system like for teen suicide or just mental health in general my understanding and I actually have been playing phone tag with Dr Tony P to talk a little bit more about this but my understanding is that it's very specifically to Target dat treatment services for kids from the school system specifically and do you know where those facilities are going I heard three of them I do not I don't know details perhaps someone else does thank you further questions May um sorry council member Lawson um I have a question for you as well um I know that street Outreach goes to goes out to specifically like to the homeless to people who are having you know our homeless Community but what I wanted to ask is um I'm looking at something just Innovative have there's ever been any thought about having some type of you know um popup type of mental ha care in certain areas all around the city where you're kind of going out into those to see if people would gravitate towards getting the services um I'm just trying to think of just something like doing something of Outreach in that way like you go to maybe a homeless area and you maybe have like some type of popup type of mental service instead of you know and I know the street Outreach does that but I'm just saying all through the community so has there been any thought about any type of innovations that are different or something else that could be uniquely used to gravitate people to get mental mental care and also to have the access to the resources as well now Kelly do you want to address that or I can I would say that we have explored many different ways that we can do engagement we we already are in the community I think our challenge we actually envisioned like the Ronald McDonald ban um is is how do we maybe take it on the road I think our challenge is we have a lot of specific communities that we serve from very different ethnic backgrounds who very much depend on coming to us in a specific location and that that has been some feedback that we've had um so that is why we have a team that really disperses and gets to know um the communities that they they uniquely serve U but it is always on our mind in terms of how we continue to provide some popup yes further questions c momes um yes thank you for coming and for sharing with us um you talked about opioids with respect to the drug treatment um and substance misuse services that you provide we've been hearing a lot as well about meth being a increasing problem can you talk a little bit about what you're seeing with respect to increases in meth use in the community Kathy do you want to take that one please you're muted Kathy oh there we go it keeps muting me when I mute sorry about that um yeah we are substance use treatment programs so that includes our outpatient substance use and our detox facility are definitely seeing an increase of meth cases um I think that you know it is it it creates a different withdrawal process so it challenges our Detox Services for sure um I think that we are looking toward really increasing our medication medication assisted treatment opportunities for folks in the community that is a proven evidence-based practice and we are really hoping to further expand those Services as we um move toward the safety net campus great um thank you for that my other question is that this campus looks wonderful and the location being near the Hospital is excellent um but it does look like it's going to take some time and of course we need to have those long-term Solutions but what kinds of things are you looking at for immediate short term to work on those Co specific really big demand increases and in particular are you working with any type of waiver that allows you to have um candidates for uh clinical lure provide services in addition to people who are currently licensed Yeah we actually are able to employ candidates um at our facility we cannot they cannot serve all payers because it's a payer specific credentialing issue but we do employ a number of Master's level not yet licensed individuals we also have a a a fairly large and we want it to grow much larger student training program that allows us to bring interns in provide them with highquality effective supervision and then they in turn can expand our Workforce I think one of the most challenging um issues that we're dealing with right now is the workforce issue um you know there are certainly post-pandemic pieces of that but just generally the the behavioral health Workforce there's a massive shortage Nationwide and that is um our staff because of the Advent of telea health and have um many opportunities that they didn't have with competitors and so it is a just a huge challenge for us right now we have more open positions unfortunately than we've ever had and we are competing against a lot of entities to hire um you know high quality staff so it's a struggle I will just jump in and add though uh we are finally back to full capacity modeling postco um so all of our CH stabilization unit Beds Are Back open at 16 uh what we did during the pandemic is we expanded the number of detoxification beds that we are currently utilizing at patomic so during the worst of the virus we actually were down to 16 beds um then we went back up to 33 beds we have planned expansion capacity up to 45 so that will be an immediate piece aligned with Kathy which is some Workforce that we're trying to higher so that we can expand back up to 45 but those could be pretty immediate um sorry mayor I just one more please proceed um and then you mentioned that there W ongoing County funds being dedicated to specifically the pathways to home program but are there County funds from arapo Andor Adams being dedicated regularly to other programs and if so what are they thank you I'm struggling with the mute button still um yes we do have funds from Arapaho County that support our um the detox program and also support our connect to Care Program which is um always open for walk-ins programs like that are just challenging to fund because they aren't paid by fees for services because you just never know how many people you're going to treat so the arabo county funds are supporting those programs um Adams County at this point we don't have dedicated dedicated funds from Adams County other than a contract with the Department of Human Services to Pro um it to provide services to individuals who don't have another way to pay for care and Kathy to clarify we do not receive County funds for path right right that's correct okay council member thank you mayor uh and thank you all for this presentation um I just wanted to comment on the uh proposed campus I think that is an excellent use of that space I think it's a much better use uh in terms of overall um you know Services provided in land utilization I did have a question though on the funding request portion I see you're going to go to the counties to the city and a couple of other uh groups um but you mentioned that there are some of the folks out on the campus currently who uh what was it politely saying do not want you there or think that you're it's an incompatible use so so I'm wondering have you gone to those folks because it seems that they have a vested interest then in finding you a new home I'll take that question and say yes we've been there many times and this has been quite the process and so mayor kopfman is the third mayor we are currently now working with to address the F uh and to untangle all the ways we figure out how to consider working with the right authority to help us get off the campus um we have recently been in conversations this calendar year with Mike coma a part of the Fitz Simmons Redevelopment Authority about our intentions that it is not the right place for crisis stabilization in walk-in Services uh and how are in the process of having numerous conversations about how we make that transition and that too could be a part of the braiding of this process to get us relocated to one centralized campus all right thank you mayor I was about ready to contact Aurora mental health having just had a meeting today with council member Chrystal Mario and council member Allison hiltz who will be um working with me um on a a group that's being assembled uh with the University of Colorado uh don Elman uh to to and and with representatives from the nonprofits who will soon receive an invitation to really have uh really get down to um uh the re velopment issues and uh my hope is obviously that the university will come up with some funding to help in that process and so uh but there we will have um the date has not been set uh my guess is it'll be Sometime Late next month uh for the first meeting thank you mayor council M thank you you must have forgotten I was on the board too so I want to say you yeah I want to say thank you to Y for coming tonight and presentation it's been my honor to serve on the Mental Health Board since 2009 um which doesn't mean I always agree with everything that's been done all those years but you are a fantastic group and um you have such outstretched arms so many different programs to offer people I'm I'm really excited about this campus and I think it it will be fantastic once it gets up and gets going um we have to have a detox center I think it's great for Public Safety and to have um uh strad there and the other hospitals right there I think it's it's wonderful and I know they're probably be a lot of bugs to be worked out um but um I think it's great and you have my support for that thank you very much thank you we appreciate everyone's time this evening thank you mayor Koffman uh for allowing us to come in and and speak to the council uh this is a critical community resource just echoing uh Marsha Buren's comments and um we we really want to be a part of the solution and we we believe that this campus can really help uh Aurora best provide Care thank you okay thank you and I stand inced uh council member bin is on the F board and I will be in discussions with you as well uh over um U this working group that will soon uh convene about the Redevelopment uh that will include not simply the nonprofits but also the uh um the city of Aurora's uh buildings uh in that particular area I want to thank the RO mental health uh um Center for being with us today and for all you do uh to not only to help with homeless homelessness um but also to help our residents cope during difficult times thank you very much thank you thank you uh consent calendar item number 2 a through 2C is there any objection for Mo moving item number 2A through 2C forward on the consent calendar uh seeing none uh item number uh 2A through 2C will move forward uh items from policy committee uh 3 uh 3A CU ano an APD intergovernmental agreement um Vanessa Wilson chief of police uh who's presenting on the on behalf of the IGA between CU and APD good evening mayor this is Megan plat I think the chief might have gotten caught up um with the officer involved today um I can briefly cover this um unless there's somebody else on the line that can cover um hi I'm Dan Mark I'm the Deputy Chief of Police for the University Police Department but Megan go ahead I'm just here to answer any questions that might come up sure um this agreement is very similar to the one that we had with um APD and CU previously um the big change we made was just to update the policy related to um the um for APD andc joining the shoot teams with Adams and arapo County and we needed to include that language in the agreement okay um any questions to staff is there any objection to moving it number 3A forward see no objections item number threea will move forward uh item number 3B city of aora investment policy Teresa sedac City Treasurer good evening I hope you can hear me I've had some audio issues today can you hear me okay we can okay good uh good evening I'm Teresa sedac City treasur and I'm here to introduce several recommended modifications to the city's investment policies these proposed changes have been presented to the city's investment advisory committee and management and finance committee I'm joined by Mary Donovan of insight investment the city's investment advisor so we're going to tag team this a little bit and she'll be able to answer any questions that I'm not able to address but the city's Investments are Guided by an investment policy which was developed in 1988 and sub subsequently revised uh was most recently modified in 2017 uh the three primary objectives of the policy are safety of principle first liquidity of funds and then yield on investments in that order staff and the investment adviser recently reviewed and evaluated the policy as a result we are recommending several modifications some are cleanup and some are a little bit more noteworthy I will walk you through the suggested modifications now and in your packets you should have a red line of the policy and also some other materials uh in regard to this item so the first thing that we are recommending is uh to remain consistent with language and sex sectional 11 of the policy we recommend that the section s standards of care be modified to relieve the finance director or other others operating under the policy be relieved of personal responsibility for an individual Securities risk provided that any deviations from expectations are promptly reported to the MF committee with an overview of action to be taken in that regard so that's to be consistent with other sections of the policy second in order to be consistent with State Statute uh we are recommending that um language be added to section 11 which is suitable and authorized Investments such that credit ratings shall apply first to the security being purchased and second if the security is unrated to the issuer provided that the security is not subordinated to other debt of the issuer and that is just because some Securities are not rated but the issuer that is issuing those Securities is rated so if the security is not rated we'll look to the to the ratings of the issuer um third in regard to corporate bonds and this is I think the most significant change we're we're um requesting is we uh propose modifications to the policy allowing for investment in Securities both domestic and foreign rate at least a minus or the equivalent versus uh double A minus in the current policy so we're we're requesting that those credit ratings be modified to a minus instead of double A minus and this is because there is a limited Universe of Securities in the ablea category and and um they're very much sought after so in order to diversify first our our portfolio and also to increase yield on those Securities that we be allowed a little bit um larger credit um parameters on those Securities and as a countermeasure or exchange for this reduction in credit ratings we would request that um the maturity window for Securities be limited to three years versus five in the current policy so uh we're asking to go down a little bit in credit and shorter in maturity to accommodate that um we also recommend that Canadian an Australian exposure be limited to 10% each for a maximum of 20% overall um and we'd still be within the 50% um uh limitation on all Cor corate Securities so um that is that um fourth we recommend addition to section 14 uh to uh include a performance Benchmark um it is not specific uh it is a statement that we will have a performance Benchmark um with which we will measure our performance on the on the portfolio uh we've left it a little bit vague because as we modify our duration and makeup of our portfolio there may be a different Benchmark that is more appropriate to our portfolio um so but we have added a benchmark so that we have a comparison for our performance and finally and this is a cleanup we recommend a change to section 15 that the title manager debt treasury Investments be changed to city treasur which is my current um title so um altogether we believe that these modifications will not only clean up the current policy but also allow the city to achieve greater returns without a significant increase in its risk profile so um I'm happy to entertain any questions we are asking that this item be forwarded to the regular city council meeting for approval so questions you questions I'm sorry questions to staff mayor council member Gardner I do not have any questions I just wanted to make a quick comment um and recognize Terry and Teresa and Mary and their team for uh putting this together um I think all the this was presented at um MF I believe last month or the month before um and uh you know I think they did a really excellent job updating our policy and kind of bringing us in line with current standards and so I'm uh definitely in support of of moving this forward further questions I say none is there any objection to moving item number 3B forward ass seeing none item 3B will move forward item number 3C IGA between Aurora and rapo county for construction cost sharing for the high plains Trail and Bridge by Tracy Young a pdnc manager in Pros good evening um this Tracy Young plan construction manager in Fr this Ida is regarding a joint project between arapo County and Aurora and other agencies um for the completion of the high plains Trail across perker Road and connecting to the Cherry Creek Greenway the uh the Ida outlines Financial contribution and maintenance responsibilities for the various agencies and um I do have staff person KT Bish he's our principal planner for pros he's here to um he can provide additional information and answer questions if you like you want to go ahead yes can you hear me yes uh yes please proceed very good thank you yes um as Tracy had mentioned the purpose of this IG is to formalize the contribution of $500,000 from Aurora to go toward the total cost of $7.5 million to construct a segment of the Regional Trail that is is roughly one mile in length and includes a bridge over Parker Road next slide upon I'm afraid you're coming in a little bit broken okay um there that's better okay upon completion this project will High Plains Trail current Terminus West the propos King and King Point South build can you hear me still um Kurt I can I can go through the slides um you're you're not coming through very clearly so this slide shows the um in the pink the orinal Troke link that this project um entails so the the kind of bluish green line is where the existing High ples Trail is located and will be uh this project will take the trail from um eventually through Kings Point and then across perker Road um to um and then it'll at 17 Mile House and then it'll connect to the chair free Greenway could you go to the next slide please so the intergovernmental cooperation includes three of Aurora arabo County Parker Douglas County and the E470 public Highway Authority and we've been working on this since 2010 next slide please so the basic purpose of the Ida as we said is to um to cost share in the construction of the trail our share is 500,000 it's about 7 A5 million total construction cost and to also outline the parameters uh for the um under which the trail will be constructed the county is actually going to provide the construction Administration and then should generally Define the future maintenance roles next slide thir question is if Council approves this moving forward to full council at regular meeting and if you have any questions questions of Staff mayor uh mayor P not not a question just a comment I know that the residents um at least in my ward and probably ward two are very excited for um finally getting the completion of that trail done so good work thank you further uh questions comments mayor uh council member Maro thank you sir um yeah I just wanted to state that I'm very excited about this project as well I think it's going to be a great amenity for our residents um and that the in the backup it says that the committee forwarded without recommendation and that is not true I believe we unanimously forwarded this one so just wanted to throw that out there thank you further questions or comments seeing none is there any objection uh to moving it number 3C forward three seeing no objection item number 3C we'll move forward uh item number 3D an ordinance uh of the city council of the city of Aurora Colorado adding article 12 of the city code pertaining to vehicular public uh nuisances um mayor PM Bergen uh thank you mayor um yeah this uh vehicular nuisance ordinance really um is being proposed after Decades of of an issue with um illegal street racing and um especially in light of a lot of uh recent complaints from residents and businesses and we've had them for years but um it it really prompted uh a discussion with police as to what was uh available for them to deter this kind of dangerous activity and in doing so I learned that we really didn't have the right laws to deter that that behavior for example we cannot pursue a Chase um and these highspeed you know chases or uh street racing can go sometimes in excess of 120 miles per hour so um I hope you'll consider this ordinance as um I would recommend maybe letting uh lieutenant hannahan and also uh George go through the presentation before questions just because I saw the presentation and it actually answered some of my questions that I had as well so thank you lieutenant Hanan uh yeah good evening um and I'm sorry this is my first time doing a presentation in this format so uh I don't believe I can share last I looked oh that's F Mike you are a presenter so you should be able to share your screen right now okay let me uh just give me one moment here see a share button yeah it is open now are you able to see the presentation no not yet well I apologize not sure why looks like you're sharing starting to there we go how about that all right is everybody able to see that now yes okay all right so uh good evening Mr mayor council members I just want to thank you for the opportunity to discuss the proposed vehicular public nuisance ordinance um I'll get started um with the purpose uh the why we are asking for your support of this new tool street racing and Associated activity has risen sharply in our community this ordinance would provide aora police and more specifically the city attorney's office and alternative approach um to Abate and deter illegal street racing activity the current and historical approach is to Abate through the operator and more recently through the registered owner uh targeting the operator has not been effective to deter the participation and the new registered owner approach is too new for us to evaluate this ordinance specifically addresses the means by which the activity persists which is the vehicle itself based on the frequency numbers of participants property damage and propensity to involve weapons we do believe this constitutes a public health and safety issue that is in our best interest to take local control of potential remedies we are proposing this approach as a direct response to the many questions posed to council members and APD about what we are doing to address the problem uh we cannot do this alone as a police department um a core tenant of community orded policing is working together with our elected officials our courts and Community to develop these types of strategies we can also say that we are taking steps to uphold our commitment to partner with our community to make Aurora safer every day so for these next couple of slides I'm going to turn the presentation over to Mr Kuman taket to talk about safeguards and protections good evening mayor and members of city council thank you for your time tonight there are several um safeguards and protections in the ordinance um as you'll see in the next two slides the ordinance requires 21 days prior notification which must which that notification must be served personally upon the owner um or the individual that has legal interest in the vehicle it allows for an agreement without a formal filing in our court the there is a temporary restra restraining order that does not become effective until 14 days after personal service which allows for time to um allow for other filings by those individuals that have been served um a motion to vacate or modify by by those individuals is permitted by the ordinance the next slide please um no impoundment can occur until 14 days have elapsed after the court has entered its orders the court will determine how long the vehicle is impounded when no agreement is reached and the court may find good cause to reduced empowerment and storage Fe storage fees and the ordinance also provides affirmative defenses for those individuals that are involved with with these issues all right so I want to talk just a little bit briefly here about precedent um we are now starting to see a trend in the direction of abating this problem through the vehicle um the City and County of Denver uh has similar legislation Colorado Springs just recently adopted similar type legislation and Greenwood Village um as of about a week ago um passed this through their second council meeting on this item California and Texas are much more aggressive in terms of um legislation for street racing including forfeiture and crushing of vehicles uh we are not asking for that level of intrusion with this ordinance so over the actually I'm sorry I want to talk a little bit at first about um the uh fatalities we had I think everybody is aware that um we set a new record in 2020 in Aurora with 36 fatalities um to which we can attribute 10 of those uh where speed was a factor we also had 672 injury accidents last year although I cannot give you definitive numbers uh we do know that speed and D dangerous driving often times were a factor in those injury crashes it does bear repeating that we all continue to feel significant complaints about the small and large scale Gatherings um where speed and noise also sorry complaints of speed and noise um related to street race on the roadways in and around our neighborhoods so over the next 10 or so slides I want to provide you with some insight into local examples and conditions to support um our belief that this is a matter for local control due to the health and safety issues although I will be focusing on Aurora um this this is not dissimilar from other Metro are various cities in fact in Denver in April of 2020 uh a street race um caused the death of an innocent mother of two uh who was out delivering food that night was in the wrong place at the wrong time um and was tragically killed so some current events here in Aurora uh just recently on June 12th 2021 one uh Street racer gathering on 33rd Avenue where Racers engaged in burnouts and uh competition racing on a city street an argument ensued uh gunfire was exchanged and one driver ran over another on foot which ultimately resulted in his death uh June 13 2021 citizen reports of six to 700 Racers gathered on South Poria burnouts occurred and fireworks were launched a 19-year-old female was shot in the leg um she advised us that that occurred during attendance of that event uh just this very weekend uh there was a vehicle traveling Southbound on i225 uh the driver admitted to driving 120 miles per hour lost control uh the vehicle rolled ejected all three occupants uh and tragically one female died as a result of that accident talk a little bit about takeovers um again these are Aurora specific with some photos these are occurring three to four times per week uh it does affect private property roads and in one case the interstate we used to be able to essentially count on these occurring one night a week typically on Sundays however they're becoming much more prevalent and frequent we're seeing them three to four times a week now um many occur on private property causing business owners thousands of dollars in surface repair and security costs um to protect the property uh the point uh of these is to create as much smok and noise as possible including fireworks and as you can see in this photo um this kind of illustrates the making as much smoke as possible the Red Arrows dep pick persons who are out on foot in the intersection this was over in the area of delmare Park um you can see the um group of cars that are backed up there in the intersection uh here you can see the use of powerful fireworks uh at the bottom of the picture you can see a group of people out on foot standing in the intersection at the top of the picture people out on foot and then ALS also again a line of cars uh backed up that this is deliberate I don't think your slides are not changing our we can't do anything to stop uh do you see do you see the photo with the gentleman holding a firearm on the right yes okay so I will continue here this is another Aurora uh incident this is a still photo from an illegal gathering on Gun Club Road this individual was armed EMB bracingly waving the pistol at the camera as it was live streamed uh officers later recovered five shell casings on the around several of those uh were um analyzed and they came back to a firearm utilized in other metro area crimes um we do not know we do not we have not identified this individual as of yet and we do not know if the shell casings came from that firearm or not just another photo of the same the same individual uh we do know that brandishing of firearms and subsequent shots fired are not un common at these gatherings and these takeovers and talk a little about the highway i225 incident which did Garner national attention these are actual photos of that incident uh this was deliberately planned and orchestrated by one person uh that it was in retali iation for having been contacted and cited multiple times by law enforcement in the metro area so the traditional approach of trying to Abate this through the driver was not a deterrent for this particular individual uh as a result of the i225 investigation which was um we dedicated two full-time traffic investigators to that case for approximately five weeks uh we interviewed over 40 victims that were uh helplessly caught on 225 from that incident uh those motorists were falsely imprisoned on the highway police fire and EMS response was jeopardized as the backup went for Miles uh the victims we spoke to stated they were scared and angry uh they witnessed brandishing of firearms and Powerful exploding fireworks during this incident um this case was ultimately exceptionally cleared due to the death of the offender before we could file charges so I just want to share with you now uh some statistics that uh the traffic analyst uh put together in conjunction with our Public Safety communication uh supervisors uh in 2019 we had 66 uh citizen reports of reckless driving uh jump to 2020 where we had 1,5 88 reports of reckless driving in the first quarter of uh 2021 we were at 553 I'll show you a on the next slide I'll show you a little graph of that um but I do we do think it is fair to also consider the impact to Citizens reporting emergencies when police lines can be inundated when we do have significant Street racer events like the 225 incident so here you'll just kind of see where we're ejected at for 2021 if we stay on the current Pace we're looking at right around 2200 calls for um reckless driving and also in 2020 I'm sorry in 2019 we issued 430 uh speeding tickets of 40 or more miles per hour over the speed limit 600 debt jumped up to 679 in 2020 and the projected number for for 2021 is 736 um uh as council member Bergen spoke of earlier um APD uh we are prohibited by policy from pursuing drivers who elude the racers do know this however uh to pursue to pursue these drivers would put the public at an unnecessary risk and is not reasonable um so I just wanted to make sure that we did address that there is a a very good reason why we do not pursue these drivers it's just too dangerous uh in April 2021 during a metrowide street racing enforcement operation we had we did have two motorcycles in one c car that eluded um our officers working that event trying to affect stops for illegal street racing uh lawful Alternatives yes there uh is at least one prominent lawful alternative um for safe responsible um racing and also um well I'll get to that in a minute but Colorado State Patrol has partnered with bamir Speedway to create to take it to the track program um however there's no noticeable impact to illegal street racing as you can tell by the numbers um from a few slides ago it does not seem to be deterring uh the activity on the roadways um myself mayor Kaufman uh uh Chief Redfern we did have a recent meeting with bamir ownership to discuss new ideas uh some new suggestions on to get better acceptance with the racing Community um out there for that take it to the track program and then also made some suggestions um perhaps some improvements that could be made to those events in order to attract the Takeover um types of groups that like to do the burnouts make a lot of smoke a lot of noise so I thought that was a very productive meeting and we also discussed ways that perhaps we could do some fundraising to um promote those better promote those events in the metro area uh the other important component of this is the aora police department City Comm Communications will provide educational P PSAs through social media social media is the primary way that these groups communicate get their messaging out and call for these takeover events and other mainstream media Outlets to specifically alert the public um and reach the racing and drifting clubs warning them of the consequences of this ordinance if it is adopted um ultimately we don't want to have to use this ordinance you know we want voluntary compliance rather than utilizing a tool like this however we also know that that's not realistic so you know lastly I just want to finish up with these last couple slides vehicular public Nuance the definition what is it any motor vehicle used to commit conduct promote facilitate or Aid in the commission of street racing illegal activity evidence of the existence of a vehicular public nuisance shall include but not limited to evidence that the motor vehicle is used in one or more of the street racing related illegal activities so how did we come up with these these are all of the things that we are seeing specifically um in the city of Aurora that are creating um in our opinion the most danger to the public and also contributing uh to furthering this type of activity so that's why these were selected um the careless driving the eluding or attempting to elude a police officer injury to property the surface damage that's occurring um minimum speed regulations and I just wanted to specify what that is you may have seen this on the news when the news media has ridden along with law enforcement over the years and particularly here in Aurora a few years ago this is the technique where these clubs slow down traffic on the Interstate but don't bring it to a complete stop they block all Lanes so that the racers can get up ahead and have a stretcher roadway where they can race and there was one particular Ride Along where the news media was able to effectively capture this um in progress and I believe that that uh is still available if you Google it uh that occurred in Denver obstructing highways or passageways this is where they do the shutdowns the takeovers uh the reckless driving so those really high dangerous speeds the speed contest and exhibitions um the street racing in general where they race each other and then the trespassing is prohibited where they are gathering on these private properties um these warehouses these big open parking lots without Authority or permission so those are the things we felt really important to include in this ordinance because these are the things that are directly affecting our community so that concludes um our portion of the presentation we will uh go ahead and open it up to to questions well let me let me ask a um a question and that is uh what was the it was crushing in what was the state of Texas did what was there so yeah so forfeiture and um crushing Vehicles that's pretty common in California San Diego particularly I'm kind of all about forfeiture and crushing no I I think this is a great proposal uh but let me ask you this I I did re and I I'm certainly supportive of it I did re read a a theory about the increase in street racing and I just want to get your view on it according to the article I read that it um that it comported with the pandemic to the extent that um as the the restrictions went up in the pandemic for stay at home the the roads were kind of clear and then people started to engage in street racing at that point and but if that theory were to hold then um then there should be reduction in street racing as there more cars on the road is there any validity to this this Theory well I think that certainly has something to do with it as we did see a significant increase uh during the pandemic but we also saw an overall rise in dangerous driving conditions throughout the whole city just by the just by the general public I don't know that it's fair to specifically lump that on the street racing groups in general but I do believe one of the contributing factors is also um the um reality TV programs dedicated now to to this type of activity as wow wow okay um further questions comments mayor Dave grber uh council member guber so guess this question is for Mr kumis the meat of the ordinance is in 13447 and um I I I want to go over the escalation procedure uh first off the ordinance is a restraining order against the vehicle does that correct and not against the person that is correct okay so then the second thing is is that once it's been determined that the vehicle is involved in racing then the process in the court uh uh again goes after the vehicle via due process before some amount of time um um and the owner can take action during that due process time but if the court finds that that vehicle is involved in racing then there can be an impoundment or maybe you could explain that as opposed to me trying to interpret yeah there's um there's going back to the safeguards Well we'd be reaching out to the all the owners and in individuals that may have a legal interest in that vehicle and we would have to personally serve all those individuals so everyone would have notice and there's a 21-day requirement in the ordinance and in that time period we would try to resolve the issue and give all those individuals the ability and ourselves the city to come to an agreement so that that issue would be abated and give them the opportunity to resolve it with us and keep the problem from happening again um hopefully that would would resolve it and we wouldn't have to file any proceedings with the court we're not able to do that then we would go to the ordinance the the section of the ordinance that you mentioned council member Gruber and then we would be filing for the restraining order and then without an agreement then the court would be determining that and we would still have the ability to try to come to an agreement with the parties and in that time period if we don't then the court would have the ability under the ordinance to determine no less than 30 days but up to a year uh to what's called then the ordinance close or to restrain the vehicle from continuing to do that to Abate it to Abate the nuisance so it doesn't continue to happen so we're all about giving the owner and the parties that have a legal interest in the vehicle the opportunity to stop it I there there are examples where parents have given their children the op you know the the vehicle to let them use it and we know that parents don't always know that their children are doing that so the notifications in in the ordinance give them that opportunity now they'll know and from then on if it continues well now they have the understanding and know going forward that this is happening if they're not stopping it then the ordinance would would would be there and then a judge would be determining then what would happen next if it continued after an agreement was made or if an agreement wasn't arrived at what would happen next okay if I could follow on then um I support I support the ordinance I support trying to uh stop the car races in in Aurora but I wanted to ask some more of the technical issues involved on how this will work um the main point is is that this is an aurora law that will be uh instituted by the Aurora Municipal Court and if the car um um leaves Aurora then there there could not be an empowerment but if the car entered Aurora again once some once uh uh this order was was put into place then the Aurora Police Department and only the Aurora Police Department uh would would um impound the car you know capture and impound the car do I understand that correctly well I think if a violation occurs in Aurora I I guess it just depends on the situation council member grber a violation occurs outside the city orora the Aurora Police Department wouldn't be dealing with it but if a violation occurs in the city of Aurora and then it goes that car goes say to Commerce City then we would still be interested in the violation I would assume uh from the city perspective so then the ordinance would be would allow the police department to serve the notice under the 21-day requirement once the the notice would be served the 21 days would start so that we would be able to negotiate with the registered owner or anyone that had a legal interest in the vehicle and hopefully we would be able to come to an agreement if we can't then we would then have to serve another type of notice on those individuals and then create the the court case as you as you will to start the temporary restraining order in our court and then that process would start then and then at that point so so again the the we understand or I've been told that uh many of the racers do not live in Aurora so even though they don't live in Aurora this law would still apply to them and the empowerment would still U um and again I understand impoundment is the last resort if the negotiations fail but even if that person did not live in Aurora um the process would would continue yes we would we would be moving to try to Abate the problem thank you we that's exactly yes further questions mayor uh Custer Gardner so I have a question around um well several questions uh but one is around if the vehicle is ultimately impounded every Finance contract I've ever seen um would consider that person in default if they have their vehicle finan and subsequently their vehicle could be repossessed um a bank isn't going to care about a batement and and all these other legal jargony words that we're using in our ordinance if if the the borrowers in default they will repossess the vehicle they'll send it to auction they'll sell it um so I guess my question is what protections are there in place in this ordinance to prevent that from happening or is that uh kind of Finance contract a separate issue because that will happen I I'll tell you that now council member Garder that's part of the the that first bullet point with the safeguards and protection when we're personally serving under the 21 Day requirement we have to serve all of the parties that have a legal interest in the vehicle so it would include that group that you're talking about so our hope would be at that point that those parties will be talking to the registered owner and saying knock it off please please cease them toist using a bank or Finance compan is going to talk to the owner of the vehicle and say stop street racing I I think we're living in fantasy world I know that Denver has had those conversations with leasing companies with banks um I know that those conversations have been Happ so I I'm hearing an echo I apologize I don't know if that's coming from my my computer or not but I know that Denver has those conversations routinely their City attorney is have those conversations with me research and preparing for this bner can I ask a clarifying question mayor may I pretend and I don't mean to interrupt council member Gardner he's probably not finished but just the bank would would get notice but the car has to go through the 21 days um it has to go through the court process so until the court makes that final decision that that you know there's no agreement to be reached it's going to be you know uh it's going to have the temporary um restraining order enforced then wouldn't that be at the point where the bank would make that decision because before that there's no there's no um there's no violation there's no criminal act at that point right yeah that's but that's my question so once the vehicle's impounded any Finance contract I've ever seen they'd be considered in default and at that point the the lender would repossess the vehicle okay further discussion mayor I have oh sorry I'll let so I asked this at Public Safety and there wasn't an answer given so I'm gonna ask the same question again but um and in followup to the 225 takeover incident um there the police department issued several press releases and the latest press release they issued uh they referenced municipal code 137-7 and said that they were going to use that going forward um to enforce or or catch Street Racers or whatever um so my question is is that no longer sufficient or what what changed yeah and I can speak to that um council member Garder so that is something we just recently instituted and that is the strategy to hold the registered owner accountable letting them know giving them notice a warning the first time that there there was probable cause that their vehicle was used in one of these types of um uh offenses and if there's a repeat offense that they will be charged and Mr kumis can specifically speak to how we do that but they will be held accountable for the actions of their vehicle rather than the driver so that is another tool that we have now it's just too new to be able to evaluate it we have one case right now um where we're waiting for the next court proceeding to serve the registered owner with that letter so it's it's just too new to be able to evaluate but it is one of the strategies along with this proposed ordinance to look at this a different way further questions mayor um I'm sorry council member and who who else was marono council member and council member marono and I think I saw council member Lawson raise her hand also and then counc MW Lawson okay council member CS council member con council member Lawson please proceed okay so my concern is that it's also saying that people will be liable for the charges of impoundment um which are pretty hefty so if someone has their vehicle imp Ed for an entire year they're likely getting it repossessed by anyone that and held in default for by anyone that has a lean on that vehicle this just seems like a really extreme Financial penalty that also surpasses our fine our fines Clause right we have a maximum of $2,650 in terms of fines that people can receive they will also be subject to civil judgments of $500 so what would be the estimated cost for a year of impounding a vehicle council member under 134-49 there's a limit on it not exceeding the fair market value of the vehicle and that's under subsection C subsection one and it also allows the court to find good cause to reduce the empowerment and storage fees so there's also that Safeguard and protection in the ordinance as well so okay but so some Vehicles may be what $820,000 and more might be the fair market value um how does that not run a foul of the limitations of penalties that we can impose which is fines up to $2,650 like that I feel like that limitation being imposed on us and in our Charter is intended to not be having an extreme and excessive Municipal fining and fee situation for people that are in violation of city codes I mean we are talking about two different uh things we're talking the 2,600 50 limit is a criminal fine whereas this is a civil judgment um I I don't know how it's going to work in the end and that's why there is a limitation that it does give the court the ability to to have the ability to make that good cause decision on a Case by casee basis so the judge would make that determination and you know I've seen our judges make those good cause determinations in our court on a daily basis in our criminal cases so you know I would expect nothing different in these cases but you're right I can't I can't say that every car is going to be worth that amount I've seen cars that are worth less but obviously these street racing cars have a lot of money invested in them and people even are their cars are probably even more than that um given what the racers are investing in the vehicle so I I'm not sure how how else to answer that question but it is a civil judgment and not a criminal violation so there is a difference in between the two cases okay um Council Mar thank you mayor uh so I have a couple of questions uh for you George I guess what happens if the owner is unable to pay the impound fees and then the court does not reduce the outstanding amount well I I mean then the Judgment enters and I would assume there would be some sort of payment plan established by the court okay so is there any sorry mayor um no please proceed all right thank you uh is there any mechanism through which the city um become would be able to seize a vehicle through this um there's there's nothing in regards to seizing it's all based on the court order in terms of closing or abating um you know if we don't come to an agreement then the court would make the determination on how to Abate the the nuisance so there are the limitations between 30 days and year and from there um if there further violations the court has the ability to further extend the order if if the registered owner continues to continues to do uh violation say with other vehicles while while the vehicle is under the closure or order that could be continued for a further time um but that would be up to the court in each specific case all right and um I I was reading earlier in the Gazette that Colorado Springs has a similar ordinance on the books now and they have a clause basically for um some kind of uh uh let's say Actually I don't even know the right word for it but um Grace I guess for people who it's the way it's their sole vehicle and I don't think I saw that in ours um so I just want to know what do we do if that's actually the case if that's the soul vehicle in a household and that's you know someone All In addition to you know acting a fool and racing with it they actually use it to get to work as well and that might have Financial impact on the family so what do we do in that scenario well council member Marano I modeled our I mean our ordinance is modeled after Caro Springs um I was not aware of that um BL so I'm going to have to look at that I'm open to adding that to this ordinance and I'm happy to talk to Mayor protm Bergen because I talked to her terms of putting this together she had wanted me to model this after theirs I wasn't aware of that Clause so if that was something added at some point after I I'm not sure I'll have to look at that and see mayor can I get clarification question because I if that vehicle after the court proceeding happens and the determination is made um and this is you you had told me George that there could be a motion to vacate or modify yes the order as well so we're we're not we're not trying to take away their vehicle we're trying to stop illegal very dangerous street racing would they they not still have the ability to drive another car we're not taking their license their driver's license correct no we're not taking their license and that's something the city can't do that would be up to the Department of Motor Vehicles um we're only abating the the nuisance which would be the vehicle itself that's being used in the street racing violations that are occurring so would involve that specific vehicle that's involved in the vi ations so if they have another vehicle it wouldn't impact that unless of course they then started street racing that vehicle and then there there there could be um you know some sort of process started up against that vehicle uh do you have further questions council member marono um yeah sorry and I do want to actually issue a quick clarifying statement too um because I was reading I was looking at it a bunch of different cities who had tried similar things try to get some results and I guess it is actually maybe it's not in the Colorado Springs ordinance but there is an ordinance uh that did have that because you know what I'm hearing is you know if you have a single vehicle and that gets um Abad um yeah then you're basically left without any kind of Transport as a household or as an individual whatever your situation may be and I don't want us to inadvertently create other problems um and you know encourage antisocial Behavior Uh or more antisocial behavior um as a result of putting someone in that kind of a situation so that's something that I'm really concerned about it's a major hangup uh that I currently have okay I just like to say one thing real quick and then go to council member Lawson and that is I am not sympathetic to these people in fact but they're I I think for street racing enthusiasts uh their car is the center of their their life relative to uh what they consider entertainment that is very dangerous to others and uh this is a tough policy and it needs to be tough so we can stop this council member Lawson um hi um I have thank you mayor I have a question just kind of a process question so this is based on the actual act like if some if you actually and this is maybe for officer hannahan um the actual Act of them doing the street racing so for example if I if people are kind of congregating at the Denver Mattress I'm just giving that as an example Street Racers you there's a whole bunch of cars and probably the intent is to race up on Parker Road if the police are notified about that are those individuals and you go to that site because it looks like they're assembling is that do they well is that part of this will they get a warning I mean how does that perceive because it could be the intent and I don't you don't you never know but if they're if they're assembling um how does that work is it is this basically the ACT if you see the person doing the the act of the street racing I just want to make clarification on that what about the assembling of that as well is that not and you know that they're going to probably do street racing yes council member Lawson um if I if I heard you correctly I believe what you're asking is is this ordinance specifically directed um at the uh the vehicle being used to commit these that is correct we did not include those that are gathering or watching this we have other means traditional means um to be able to charge them with trespassing um and things like that um but this is specifically to try toate the nuisance through the vehicle uh rather than the driver or spectator Spectators were not included and and I wasn't talking about that I'm talking about the actual cars themselves not the spectators but actual people who are assembled to get ready to do street racing um which I guess you can't prove or defend so I guess you answer my question there my second part of the question is if you have multiple people like they're racing on 225 um I mean how do you how do you how are you going to catch or how is it licensed place I mean it's going to be based on who calls it in just if the police are in the area I'm just trying to understand that part of it as well yeah so like so like um traditional ways that we um enforce laws and ordinances we have to have probable cause um that that vehicle was used um in the commission of the act the specified in the ordinance and then again it it falls upon a judge or jury to um determine whether or not we met that burden of probable cause and that we properly identified and have the right vehicle and the right owner because I mean some cars definitely look like they street race there's just people that just do it period I mean so I was just trying to see how you would determine that thank you those are all my questions mayor thank you uh further questions or comments mayor if I could council member gr so Mr kakis again the um the issue was raised earlier about the possibility of losing a single car I wanted to go through the process that you described to me earlier the point is is that the car will be identified at a Race So somehow the police somehow or another will get the the license numbers of those cars that were involved in the race and that starts the process you identify the owners you notify all of the owners that the car has been uh identified as being in a race and and you start going through collecting uh discuss or having a discussion with the owners the key element of that discussion is pretty much going to be from what I understand the judge is going to say if you Grace this car again or if the police identify that this car is involved in another race you have the potential of losing the car if you agree not to race the car anymore the you will not lose the car you you you know life goes on again it's not a criminal summons against the driver it's is simply that if this car is used in a race if then that person chooses to race it again race the car again or that person chooses to allow another person to race that car again that person the owner is then making the conscious choice to violate the agreement with the judge and the owner then is is deciding to give up uh or have the car impounded do I understand that correctly yeah there's a lot to unpack there council member grouper but yeah if if we've come to an agreement under that first part under the 21 Day agreement and we we agree to a and it whatever the agreement is and then part of that agreement is going to be that they Abate the nuisance and they don't continue to involve the vehicle and street racing there's a lot of different definitions in the ordinance about what street racing is and it's not just racing the cars it's doing donuts it's power breaking there's a lot of different things that Co that are covered under street racing so I just want to clear that up for for all of you it's not just racing at miles an hour there's other acts that could be covered under this ordinance um but if they violate that agreement then we would be going to court saying they the owner has violated this agreement we want the court to order that vehicle surrender to the city and then we would be abating that it that nuisance at that point so it didn't continue um in the other instance if we didn't come come to an agreement and then the court reviewed all of the evidence and determined uh that the that the court determined that they needed to uh order that the vehicle needed to be Abad then the court would determine the terms and Provisions of that order and then at that point would order the vehicle Abad and whatever those terms and conditions would be then we would then be filing a notice with the court that the owner has violated that agree that order and then the court would determine if the owner had violated the agreement at that point okay if I could follow up so the the main point is is that um the owner will be given notice that not to do this again if the owner chooses to do it again then the owner will be in violation and the owner will have made the conscious decision to Forfeit the car to the impoundment process furthermore and then this is the second question is that if someone took the car without the owner's notice took the keys somehow or another got the car the car is involved in a race the car was identified as being in a race uh it goes back to court uh or actually it doesn't even have to go back to court but at that time the owner could approach the court or let me ask this is going to be a question at the end but the owner could approach the court to say I wasn't driving the car I didn't you know the car was taken from me uh it was not my responsibility and present evidence to the court as to why that is so the court could then vacate that because it wasn't the owner that that uh made that offense it was somebody else that the owner was not aware of that's true uh council member grber that's listed in the affirmative defenses of the ordinance but our office would obviously consider that and if we're talking about the 21 Day requirement we would obviously take that into consideration and and try to resolve the case that way and not have it go through through the court process thank you mayor mayor mayor I think you're muted oh mayor ptim I'm sorry uh yes I mean the whole point of this ordinance is it's not to punish it's to deter illegal street racing that has dire consequences in in in certain situations and we've you know seen in the president presentations some some uh people that were you know killed shot during during some of these activities it again the reason for this ordinance is because what tools we have have not deterred this activity so we're trying to um to deter it we will provide education uh especially to those organizations that that tend to organize these type of things um but bottom line is to protect the public and and to provide due diligence the affirmative defense to um to have that process of the 21 days has to be personally served to those owners um and we are trying we would hope we would you know come to an agreement that that they would uh decide that they don't want their car you know taken that they're going to to come to an agreement that's what we're trying to achieve the other is the last resort Am I Wrong Lieutenant hannahan um no yeah that is correct um obviously we would want to um do the best we can with public messaging social media all that kind of all those kinds of things um work with our partners around the metro area and I just if I may just take a few minutes to do a followup and I apologize I cannot remember which council member raised this question but in terms of the uh forfeiture of the vehicle loan um and the um the company or bank that may have the loan one of the first things based on my conversations lengthy conversations with the prosecutors in uh in Denver one of the first phone calls they make is to the lean holder the bank and they very quickly uh enter into an agreement with the bank um so that that vehicle won't be turned over to the Violator for a minimum period of time Etc and um work with the lean holder and then they deal with the viol of the the loan and those issues on their end we just work or sorry not we they work with them uh to resolve the matter as the lean holder I anticipate that would probably uh be largely what would be occurring in Aurora as well and Lieutenant hannahan what about um have you have you spoken to car Springs police chief or anyone about their they just they passed it a few months ago and I know that Greenwood Village they may have passed it by now that I think they passed it first reading have you had any discussions with Denver Greenwood Village or C Springs uh uh not with Greenwood Village that is too new I I just found out about that very recently I believe Mr cumman Tas did some research um on their last council meeting where it went through it passed through the second reading I did speak with Colorado Springs the officer that was very much involved behind the scenes um of drafting their legislation working with their City attorneys um it's too new they haven't had any cases reached this point yet so I was not able to get a followup on them and um in terms of speaking with prosecutors in Denver they couldn't give me specific numbers but this is utilized um in Denver as part of their nuisance ordinance and they do uh file um these cases I I don't know that they do it all the time but they they do have a lot of experience with these cases and and just to follow up on lieutenant point I just just to clarify our ordinance is different than all of their ordinances on a couple of points one their ordinances don't just deal with street racing they deal with other crimes so ours has been specifically tailored to deal with only street racing so just so it's clear on the record here and two um in the two specific areas of the way our ordinance is written we specifically require the ordinance be personally served so the 21-day notice requires that it's personally served and then the filing of the of the temporary restraining order needs to be personally served as well whereas the other cities require a male uh service and I think that's important for due process as well we all know and I received a Christmas card this year in February that was mailed in December so um we wanted in the city attorney's office to make sure that people knew where they were getting this service so further uh questions or comments mayor mayor council member CS counc um council member Cs and council member Hills so I just had a follow up on the discussion of the impound fees and then someone could retrieve their car with a payment plan with the court if they were unable to pay in full at the time so then if they default on that payment plan presumably they get a warrant for their arrest for defaulting on that payment plan and then how do we follow on to that do we have any conversation about that being good cause rather than a reason to reduce that cost versus a reason to just arrest this person because they're unable to pay because that seems like we're just kind of potentially piling on in ways that often result in Municipal costs causing people to um end up in worse and worse situations there's there's nothing in the ordinance requiring an arrest of an individual it would just go through a civil process uh so they wouldn't be looking at at a jail sentence for for not paying their fees it would just be a civil judgment against them they would have to pay at some point so okay thank you council member Lawson I mean I'm sorry council member Hils that's okay thank you um I wanted to follow up I guess on a question so when when the incident happened where there were 150 or so cards I think was the final number on the highway uh one of the questions that I had asked was how do we issue you know summons and summons is and and what not for the cars that participated in these events and at the time the response was and I apologize if I'm getting this slightly wrong it's been a while since I asked was essentially that we can't necessarily know who participates in these street racing events unless we kind of get lucky in in figuring out who they are and so I guess my concern there is if that's the case will this actually have a deterrent effect on people because what I see happening is maybe a few slowpokes get caught but it doesn't really stop the overarching issue um on a larger and broader scale and so I might just be missing something in terms of the identification piece so maybe get some clarification on that because that's something that I keep keep coming back to is if we don't know you know out of the 150 cars I think we were only able to not just identify but serve I think two or three people which seems pretty low for for such a large Gathering so there's 147 other cars that are going to do it again U Marin Allison I may be able to answer that please Commander um so one of the issues is we we can on most occasions get a license plate or some type of identifiers on the vehicle but knowing who is driving that vehicle to site that individual becomes difficult so we may be able to figure out who the registered owner of the vehicle is but we unless we know who the driver is we can't issue a citation but this because now we through the plate can identify the registered owner we can then figure out who has um uh financial interest in the vehicle if that's the registered owner if that's a lean holder and then from there we can then um use the vehicle as a mechanism in order to deter this from occurring and really and I I don't want this point to be missed I mean we're really looking for compliance from the person that owns the vehicle if their son or daughter is going out involved in this they may not even have knowledge about it but once they're served I think they're incentivized to come and enter an agreement where they're saying hey we're not going to let our son or daughter drive this vehicle now knowing that they're using it in this manner and the repercussions are steep for us so we're going to enter into that agreement and then obviously if they allow their son or daughter to drive it again they made a conscious decision to allow that to happen the son or daughter ends up taking the vehicle without their permission and maybe they file a stolen vehicle Report and present that to the court then that will be in consideration and that they weren't knowingly allowing them to use that vehicle so to answer one of those other questions and to also answer the question of why um the citation or traffic enforcement aspect of this is so so difficult um this when using the vehicle and being able to identify the vehicle and registered owner is much easier than figuring out who the driver was in order to issue a citation and council member Hills this lieuten hannen to address your other question specifically about the i225 investigation uh it was incredibly frustrating for us to not be able to charge other individuals we had a lot of information a lot of video um identifying vehicles and people but it was completely useless to us because it was sent anonymously or people did not want to come forward to um positively you know for court proceedings to say that they were there and this did come from that uh that incident so we were not able to use it to pursue other people um we were able to identify two people um with credible um evidence uh and so that's the direction we went in but we did get a lot of other information a lot of videos we just weren't able to use it unfortunately due to the constraints obviously of the law and um what we have to follow right mayor may I follow up please proceed yeah please proceed that's really helpful um on both parts of that so thank you I I think you know this was mentioned earlier but my concern is you know some kids out street racing and grandma has an interest and if that kid also uses that car to get to work I I don't see necessarily A a parent or a grandparent or whomever I you know is on that Financial turning them in for a stolen vehicle um for something like this and so I just is I don't know if there is an in between option that you know isn't directly into this because I do think that we need to be able to do more in terms of enforcement I just I think about the financial struggles that people are already in and not in any way condoning street racing I've gotten caught up in it um and it can be you know quite scary um both here and when I lived in Boston it was motorcycles um you know banging on my car at an intersection so so I I understand you know the fear that that people caught up in this feel I guess my my only concern really is that going straight to taking away you know potentially someone's livelihood and while I believe the intent of the ordinance and and you um you know and the attorneys who have worked on this I I believe that you believe that there will be working out with the courts and having those conversations I don't necessarily trust that when it gets to that you know remedial conversation with the court that that's going to be what happens or that's going to be what happens equitably and so it's really the next step in the process that I have concerns about that this kind of sets into motion and I don't know if there's an in between option I guess council member hiltz um just to answer that quickly uh I I don't think the point of this is to encourage a grandparent to you know be in a position where they have to turn their their grandchild in for a motor vehicle theft I think the point of it is for the grandmother to say wait a minute my grandchild's using this in a dangerous behavior and now I've been put on notice that this vehicle's been used in this manner and there are repercussions for that and I'm going to you know intervene and and keep them from being involved in this activity so that don't hurt themselves or hurt another person so I think um the repercussions are there just to encourage that person to take this very seriously as we take it very seriously and and keep the the behavior from occurring and hopefully that grandmother says this is my only um M of Transportation I'm allowing you to use it for your modor transportation for work so it cannot be used in this manner and if that agreement's reached then that's the end of it and and that is a far off the actual abatement of the vehicle and the courts interjecting and doing the restraining order and eventually impounding the vehicle is a last resort there's a lot of mechanisms in place on the front end to allow the the persons with the interest to intervene and stop it from continuing and hopefully that grandmother would say I don't want you to get hurt and I don't want you to hurt somebody else so you can't use it in this manner and whatever those insurances have to be put in place so that doesn't happen again and if it does happen again yes there there can be significant repercussions for that but really we're talking about public safety and hope probably the safety of that person's grandchild who could be seriously injured or killed if they continue in that behavior right I the Assumption though is that the driver is going to see things the same way and comply you know a parent or grandparent or whomever has that financial interest can you know ask the driver not to do something all they want it doesn't mean they're going to comply and then it still comes back on that person um with the financial interest specifically with what council member Gardner was talking about earlier and then of course if you have your car repossessed you run into Financial default and then not can hit your credit I mean there's just cascading effects when you hit the person with the financial interest and so I guess I just have a little less faith in the further steps in the process um than you do no I understand that and ultimately that person may have to make the tough decision of not not being able to trust that person not to use it in that manner that dangerous legal Manner and may have to restrict their access to that vehicle um just to protect them themselves but also the community and their their you know uh grandchild who may not be able to make sound decisions because of for whatever reason and and ultimately has to be uh you know the adult and say no this this can't happen any further and I know this may be your mode of transportation but now you're going to have to take you know a bus to work or you know uh some other means of of conveyance um because when you do use this vehicle I'm trusting you not to use it in this manner but you do and this can't continue um so hopefully that's what happens but I understand your point again that um you know there is a burden that is there and it can it can be harmful but the the risk to the community is is great with this type of activity mayor Koffman uh council member Maria thank you uh I I've been mulling over the thought of um asking about uh community service in lie of a financial um penalty and I think the scenario that council member hilts is uh I guess an opportune one to kind of dig into what that might um could look like I don't know if that's um an option but you know I I won't presume to know everyone's you know familial situations and I think when um we think of when there's a will there's a way and not always in the greatest um sense uh you know we can't predict that people will always be able to um have control over every aspect in every situation or every argument or you know um again just trying to hit the home of we don't know the potential situations that people um might be in so I if that situation sure we want to we can talk about the the moral I guess conversation around the the community well-being but let's say it still happens you know to the the best of somebody's ability um would Community Service uh be an option in that type of scenario or could it member just to answer your answer your question I think that's part of the the process is that if a person um you know isn't able to control every aspect they can come in and say hey I tried you know I I told uh this person not to not to do this not to access my vehicle but did it did it anyway there is a mechanism in place and I think the courts and the police department we'll try we'll try to work with them to try to find an agreement that works and try on that individual situation to look at that uh and and make the best assessment But ultimately you know the courts would could you know will make a finding if you've reached that point where maybe the the vehicle is safer um in impound for a period of time time um to to figure that out um that's why the the courts can do between 30 days and 365 um there may be differing amounts of time um or maybe an agreement hopefully can be reached before that and some sort of situation can be resolved through um some type of means and I can't think of maybe how that would be accomplished but there is a lot of latitude to find ways to accomplish this prior to getting to the point of uh restraining order or um the vehicle being impounded okay oh um if if I could ask this question of staff and that is uh in the i225 incident uh the fact that under this proposed ordinance uh we're looking at the vehicle and not the operator uh with that video um could that video be used as evidence to to move forward with um the sanctions under this uh ordinance proposed ordinance uh mayor I could answer that uh no it would be the same rules would apply in terms of people coming forward to stand behind the video and verify Rec cour purposes that um they were actually there and this is of the incident so for that circumstance it would not have made a difference but I think um you know with public service announcements and reaching out to those communities letting them know the rep cussions of this ordinance if adopted I think that may help at least uh deter some people from from participating in that activity in the future okay further questions comments ver uh Council verin thank you uh this has been a fascinating conversation I've learned a lot here tonight um I without getting in the weeds can you just tell me who who will be um doing the personal service will it be the police or or retired police or do we know yet yeah so that that would be an Aurora police officer okay I just didn't want to pile on a lot of work extra work for them but hopefully with this ordinance we won't have many to well Lieutenant henan just to be clear this ordinance allows not just the police officer but it allows um I mean I allows anyone over the age of 18 that's not an interested party just to be clear yeah I apologize I think I confuse that with the registered owner letter so I apologize the registered owner letter requires an an officer to serve it but this does not okay thank you further questions comments mayor council member Hils council member HS thank you um I'm just throwing this out there I don't know um if the sponsor would be open to the conversation or others who are reluctant on this but is it possible to maybe do this as like a one-year pilot so that we can track if it's actually deterring this and also you know monitor the impact that it's having on people with maybe some regular you know check-ins so that if we are finding that it's you know causing an undo burden on the people that we don't want to have it cause an undo burden on like those who might have the financial interest in some of the scenarios that we were talking about earlier or the community service options that were mentioned um I just I think I think there's a way to get creative and and find a way to address this I just don't know that you know this as is forever is something I'm comfortable with right this moment mayor that's just speaking for me personally uh mayor PR um council member hiltz um that is an interesting idea to do um a one-year pilot um I I think that might be a good way to evaluate the program and I guess maybe I would ask Lieutenant hannahan to weigh in uh I have no objection further discussion I'm I'm curious if um any of the others who have had similar concerns are seeing any potential pitfalls that I might not be seeing you says pitfalls pits that's a different debate we when I think we had that I think that's a subtle question further discussion mayor I lost that one further discussion mayor council thank you sir I just wanted to uh to um address uh council member hil's question I think that's actually a really great suggestion um I do have some concerns just about again unintended consequences um and making sure that we're not making different Problems by addressing this one but I do agree that this is a very dangerous and exceptionally agitating problem um given that there's due process built into this uh I'm supportive uh and I'm grateful that council member Bergen also agrees with the onee pilot so thank you f questions May mayor p i I just want to say thank you to council member Marana because we um did have a discussion um a couple months ago about the the the activity so I appreciate that further discussion I say9 is there any objection uh to moving uh item number 3D forward as a one-year pilot oh um trust bargain was that a friendly Amendment the onee pilot even though we don't have formal amendments in this process at this point okay so uh uh I number 3D is a one-year pilot program is there any objection for it to move forward seeing none item number 3D as a one-year pilot program will move forward item number 3E a resolution of the city council approved in the is of station replacement artwork um Roberta Bloom hello I'm Roberta Bloom and um I'm here just to bring you up to date on uh where we are with um the replacement of the artwork that we agreed to remove um last August to do to um uh failures in the fabrication so um we formed an art selection panel to uh work with the artist Gordon huther on a proposal for the replacement art um he came back with two different proposals and the art selection panel selected one to pursue further um and the uh the art selection panel requested some changes um requested that he address some concerns which he did and um on March 3D that was approved by the art selection panel or um I'm sorry on on February 23rd it was approved by the art selection panel it then went to the art and public places commission and they approved it and then to the cultural Affairs Commission and then to the prct LBC and CG policy committee for their approval and so now it is here at study session so the new work that's being proposed will utilize the existing sculpture pad and lighting at um is station it will be fabricated from a high quality and durable material and be at least 20 ft um be at least 20 ft tall and less than 30 feet tall and it will have color added to attract interest the um I think let's see I already explained that um the reduction in height design changes structural support and choice of materials uh these are all things that are intended to help ensure an attractive and durable solution solution that can be um enjoyed by residents and visitors for decades the new work will be constructed from stainless steel stainless steel mesh and dichroic glass the working title is called mountains so um if approved by um if this goes to city council and is approved um The Proposal will then move through the artist Engineering Process and um this will help to establish the exact measurements especially for height as where the artist is trying to work within a comparable uh budget um and then the artwork should be completed and ready for installation hopefully by the end of spring 2022 um if I could uh become a presenter I do have a very short PowerPoint to share there we go okay okay so on the left hand side you see the original work of art um that was de assession last August and on the right hand side you see um the proposed replacement artwork um it does appear to be similar in hyp but only because the second image that was produced is um you know you're much closer to the artwork and so um here you can uh see it with a person standing close to it so you do have a sense of the scale and on the right hand side it gives you a sense of the uh stainless steel mesh that um is being proposed and and um the dichroic glass although if you're familiar with dichroic glass that's not a very good sense maybe this gives a better sense the um other piece that the artist has at ISA station um does use dichroic glass discs and they're very reflective and they are um um they involve a variety of different colors that change within the glass itself depending on how the light is uh reflecting off of them so um what we're asking today is for approval to move forward the idea is that the artwork uh this the city is investing very little in the new artwork this is coming um from the artists um despite the fact that it um the artwork was no longer under warranty um I am going to uh my intent is to once we have the engineering for the artwork is to run it through um Nick girs of Yeti Works who's a structural engineer that we've used on multiple projects and is in fact the engine Who provided um the report the evaluation of the original artwork and the flaws within the artwork so um the cost of do having that peer review is about $750 um are there any questions questions of Staff mayor Dave grber council member grber I may ADM miss this what is the total cost of the city for replacing the art well the art the artist commitment was to do it at little to no cost to the city um we think it's in our best interest to invest $750 in the peer review of the engineering and there will be probably some minor costs related to site work I think there's a light fixture that needs to be replaced and um probably some minor electrical work so does it sound like it'd be less than $5,000 total absolutely okay thank you f questions I seeing none is there any objection to uh having item 3E move forward uh seeing n item 3 e will'll move forward thank you for your presentation um uh without objection uh without objection uh uh uh there will be a presentation of uh one presentation will cover 3F uh through 3i uh is there objection to combining those for purposes of a presentation I seeing none uh Mr Milton please proceed yep good evening everyone this is Rodney Milton Community Development manager here as uh the mayor mentioned all of these represent agreements uh for our cdbg covid dollars and represent the remaining uh awards for funding uh Council voted to approve the previous Awards and these are the remaining Awards discussion uh seeing none then uh item number 3F uh funding ready to work Aurora uh with a rehabilitation Grant using Community Development block grant covid uh 19 uh dollars uh is there any objection to moving item number 3F forward seeing none item number 3F will move forward item number 3G funding restoration uh Christian uh Ministries with Rehabilitation Grant uh with a re Rehabilitation Grant using C cdbg co9 uh is there any discussion on I number 3eg is there objection to moving item number 3G forward seeing none item number 3G will move forward item number 3H uh funding Village exchange center uh Incorporated with Community Development block grant covid-19 funding for their meals on wheals activities for the year 2021 discussion seeing none is there any objection to moving item number uh 3H forward uh seeing none item number 3H will move forward I number three I funding the Asian Pacific Development Center of Colorado with Community Development block grant covid-19 funding for their activities in the year 2021 discussion I seeing none uh is there any objection to moving item number three I forward seeing none item number three I will move forward um item number three J affordable housing Gap financing uh program funding recommendation for the Gateway Apartment development uh Mr Milton good evening everyone once again this one represents an an award from our winter round of Gap financing which included an award a recommendation for $750,000 and home dollars for the Gateway uh Apartments this is a develop this is a project being developed by the Aurora housing authority and represents about 100 affordable housing units uh discussion or questions of Staff uh seeing none is there any objection to moving item number three J forward uh seeing none item number 3j will'll move forward item number 3K intergoal agreement between the city of Aurora Colorado and the state of Colorado Department of local Affairs uh Mr Milton yes this item represents an intergovernmental agreement with the state to administer emergency rental assistance on behalf of the city of Aurora this represents an agreement of roughly 9 million $400,000 of which the city received about 11.4 million and we're having the state administer the bulk of those funds on our behalf this is consistent with a lot of jurisdictions that have done so to cut down on duplication of services and uh to increase the capacity to administer those funds uh questions to staff mayor mayor council member Lawson I have a question Council Council M Lawson Mr Milton I have a question if we're doing the administration of of the 9 million to that department are they going to be providing us um any kind of data about who they helped how many will that be is that part of it to get the measurements or the some type of report back from them absolutely absolutely not not only that and I I can provide for uh Council uh they maintain a website of all of their funding distribution but we will also be receiving as they are representing sort of us as a subrecipient and so they're subject to all of the reporting requirements that come from the federal government so excellent question further discussion mayor C Ms um yeah so I just have read and heard some concerns about timeliness in responses from the Department of local Affairs and them having adequate Staffing to respond to rental assistance needs so have they demonstrated that they addressed this or made any assurances to the city in that regard so great question we have been working with the state to improve their capacity to navigate so one of the things that is that is causing a bottleneck is that often times folks can submit um their applications but they need a liaison to walk them through some of the documentation and so our staff is actually going to be supplementing a lot of the capacity regarding navigating folks once they're in the system to make sure that they uh complete their applications further discussion council member KS I just wanted this is Jessica presser I just wanted to aborate on that there was a significant backlog backlog with the state in the past month they have gotten up to speed they actually brought on their contractor and now they're moving through pretty quickly we did get an uh email update from them about a week ago just wanted to add that further discussion seeing none um is there any objection to moving B number 3K forward I see item number 3K will move forward item number 3 l resolution expressing approval of loan for of loan for various projects by elevation Community Land Trust uh Rodney Milton right this item represents General funding um to be dedicated for permanent affordable housing by Administration by the elevation Community Land Trust the land trust is a model that provides a a a home ownership opportunity for deep afford per deep and permanent affordability and this agreement represents funding to Pilot an Initiative for the acquisition and renovation or new construction of of affordable housing for home ownership for permanent affordability further discussion mayor council memberes um yeah so I just was wondering do we have and I think I've asked this about elevation in the past ask do we have anything in place in our contracts with them to assure that they cannot sell the land that is acquired through city of Aurora funding to be used on other projects outside of the city of there would be a deed restriction associated with the use of our funds for any property and a resale recapture provision provision within that deed further discussion seeing none um is your objection to moving item number three L forward as seeing none item number 3L will move forward item number 3M a pilot program to assist veterans experiencing homelessness or housing insecurity to find uh permanent work um this is I'm the sponsor of of this is a a joint would be a joint agreement through an IGA between Adams and Aro County I mean Adams and Aurora Adams County aora it is a a pilot program U built on an existing program that Adams County has um um and I'm going to have Ralph Charlotte essentially uh I worked with uh commissioner Steve Tesco and with uh the the veterans Commission from Aurora and Adams County respectively uh Ralph Charlotte is the uh is is a chair for the Aurora veterans commission was heavily involved uh in the development of this project uh uh Ralph please proceed with your presentation uh good evening everybody uh you should be seeing a set of slides that's a city of Aurora veterans dayworks program thank you for this time this evening I only have 12 slides so this shouldn't take too long uh we're going to cover these five items program description structure relationship to current programs funding and questions the description is here is a little bit um a little bit expanded on what the mayor's already mentioned uh we have two goals one is employment for the long term in into meaningful employment and then the veterans would also be um housed in an affordable permanent housing are the two goals of the program and there are seven components in the statement of work that deal with these seven items and each of these seven items have details and measures and metrics and Reporting monthly quarterly reporting um tied to them work assignments for this group of veterans will come from the city parks recreation in Open Spaces it's a day work program and Veterans will work 24 hours a week the additional 15 hours that week will be devoted to training coaching meeting with service providers that sort of thing the contractor is a company named bod and they will have an on-site supervisor for the day work program and they will have a case manager and there'll be a minimum minimum of twice a week check-in between uh the case manager and the clients oops sorry uh we expect eight veterans to be enrolled at any given time this is sort of a rolling program it isn't eight Veterans for the entire year 95% of them we would expect to be referred to housing refor resources we imagine the other 5% may already have something 60% we are looking for long-term meaningful employment within six months and then a case manager as I've mentioned would be assigned to each of the enrol same case manager uh handling all eight we Define in the statement of work what we mean by homelessness we took it from The Hearth act which is a federal statute and basic these are the basically the four components of the Hearth act it actually goes on for like a page in detail but no regular nighttime residence uh the person could be in a shelter private or public place not used as a regular accommodation they might be uh imminently uh maybe losing their home or they can't support permanent housing and so people who are eligible for this program would be defined as homeless under the Hearth act so we'll work with Adams County through the IGA and then they will have they have a contract with Bon Enterprises today and then this will piggyback on that um we're going to be sharing a veteran population that's both living in Aurora and Adams County the program is for one year the tentative start date is July 1st we realize that there's not a lot of time between now and then to get it approved there will be an ongoing and final evaluation based on the measurements the ongoing reports the evaluation team will include the Aurora City staff uh our veterans affairs commission the Adams County staff and their uh veterans advisory commission and we'll put a report together at the end and and make a recommendation about whether the program should continue uh in the city the mayor as he's already mentioned is the lead um but he's already talked about who he's been involved with in terms of the uh other County and the commissions City staff offices have included Human Resources as the Liaisons for our uh Veterans Affairs commission the parks rects in Open Spaces Housing and Community Service in the city attorney's office and a lion share of the work was done by housing community services and the city attorney's office um the Housing and Community Services will be monitoring this program and the relationship of this program to what is already exists in Adams County is they have a daywork program it is for uh um their population which includes veterans but it is not veteran focused and so this program the difference between the two programs is this is spe specific to Veterans and it's related to our homeless programs across the city and we expect the bay we expect bad to continue to make its referrals to its current service providers which include the Department of Veterans Affairs the uh Colorado Coalition for homeless and the Aurora housing authority and there they have about a half a dozen or a dozen service providers they work with these were just the key ones that we identified the total pil cost is 288,000 the funds would come from federal funds marijuana funds and possible charitable sources and this is how that funding breaks down um you can see the staff is the line is in blue The Lion Share of the staff that's the case manager and the Navigator uh kind of uh roles um the indirect overhead is the 27,000 in green and then the red is the wages and the wages will be $80 a week through December 31st and then it'll go up to $96 a week in January and then also on-site food allowance will be $8 a day per person and there's the totals and um that's all I have again U uh thanks a big thanks to the folks in uh L Dalton and Jessica prer and Tim Joyce who really did most of the work Ralph I think you might have been referring to the day wages you said weekly wages It's weekly is $80 a week sir and then 96 a week oh you're averaging because they okay yeah because they don't because it's 20 24 hours right okay I see and I'm done okay uh questions is uh questions mayor council member Hills council member Hills I just want to say thank you for the presentation and for the you know continual updates and what's going on with the commission it's just really helpful so thank you oh thank you very much I appreciate all the support from the council and I know this is not on the but I got to say thank you for the new city Liaisons we have just it's just fabulous the relationship further further questions I seeing none is there any objection uh to moving item number 3M forward seeing none uh item number uh 3M we'll move forward thank you uh uh Ralph for the presentation thank you good night and all and all your extraordinary work on this um item 4A background checks for boards and commission members uh Roberto Venegas hi mayor this is Roberto Vegas Deputy city manager I think that's the a different PowerPoint we need there we go okay um as the mayor and Council recall we had the initial conversation at the May 3rd steady session with regards to uh exploring the background checks for our city boards and commissions move to the next slide so what I'm going to do is basically recap you started the conversation and I took uh notes and feedback from several council members about different concepts you wanted to explore uh so I'm going to quickly summarize those and recap what we talked about on the 3 and then lay out three options for revising the current boards and commission application based on the feedback you gave on May 3d and then obviously stand for questions and uh hopefully get some direction from Council about how you'd like to proceed next slide so just by way of of of a a brief recap uh we currently don't do any background checks for our volunteer boards and commissions um historically we have not cond conducted those based on um a variety of reasons but primarily because these are volunteer and recruitment for volunteer boards and commissions can be difficult and and adding a background check was something that we just historically have not included because it would make recruitment a little bit more of a challenge uh given the experiences that the council had uh with the Civil Service Commission we obviously are revisiting that uh issue but we have not done that historically um we do do be background checks obviously for all employees in the city of Aurora and our HR department has capability and a third party vendor that could easily uh absorb uh the workload should we do that uh we do do a a criminal background check for volunteers um for our volunteers that we use for a variety of events and we have about a cost of about10 to15 for uh per background check if if you decide to pursue that uh Avenue uh that we would work with our third party vendor to to do that um our current application as I mentioned does not require um consent to be given by the applicant to conduct a background check we'd have to add that should you decide to include that um on the basis of of legal advice we would certainly want to uh make sure that that is called out that the applicant understands that that will be part of the process and they essentially consent to allowing that uh background check to to be undertaken next slide uh the other two items uh that I wanted to remind you based on our conversation on on May 3rd um the council background checks if uh if you do pursue that we would want to have a discussion about how we would uh share that information uh those are public uh uh documents now if that uh application is checked and that applicant decides to allow that then any background check that is um returned to the city and uh reviewed by the council for the purposes of appointing a candidate would be an open record and would be a discussion in an open meeting there would not be an executive session item and so that would need to be fully understood and and the applicant would need to understand that as well that if there were to have any questions about their anything that came up in a background check that that would happen in this venue right now in a study session for example so uh something we'd have to explore if you do Sude to take that that road uh we have 32 boards and commissions with about 310 individual boards uh members and so we only have one staff member the cler office that currently does the due diligence on boards and commissions so we'd uh uh have to look at that in terms of of workload if we were to add that um I think in the 2022 budget we would be able to accommodate that but that certainly would depend on on the council's decision next slide so uh based on the feedback from council members on May 3rd I'm going to lay out three options that were all discussed and agreed to in terms of some form of fashion one or two or more council members thought was a good idea so I'll lay out three options they're not exclusive of each other uh so you can use you can take one or both or all three of them uh you don't have to take just one so I'll I'll lay out the first one uh the first one is the employment questions in the current application as you recall we do not um we do not ask the applicants to uh to list May perhaps the previous three employers the duration employment the specific reason for leaving of each employer we do that in our current job applications for the city of Aurora so that's something that we could include which we don't have currently which is simply just right now they don't have to list any of those employers so you could say you know what's the duration when did you work for these employers and a reason for Liv uh leaving relocation new job whatever the case may be we just uh allow them the opportunity to be able to disclose that information should you want to see their last three employers next slide these are the questions that we uh proposed and U several of you uh like these questions we didn't externally take a poll of the entire Council but these were questions that were Got To Us by our former HR Director di G orano and used in other contexts for uh hiring and and ones that would essentially be able to gather more information for the basis of your decision so we would add these to the Imp uh to the application and uh I won't read them to you they're basically just um uh questions that will allow the candidate to disclose any information that they will be the the the onus will be placed on the applicant to disclose information that may be um an issue where we to do a background check without fully doing a background check so these are two questions in addition to the other question that I asked you about employment history we could add to the current application current application was included in your backup so if you want to look at that uh we would just essentially add these uh uh two sets of questions if the council uh so decided the last option next slide we had several council members who uh wanted to perhaps only explore the idea of a background check for uh the Civil Service Commission and the Planning and Zoning Commission which are I I believe the only two commissions that have binding uh they have they take action and binding action uh on behalf of um on behalf of the commission so the idea on the May 3rd study session that was brought up by I believe council member Bergen Council bersin uh and I can't recall if anybody else but at least two other uh those two council members that we maybe just do background checks for those particular uh boards and commissions because of the nature of their work um the sensitivity and kind of The Binding nature of their decisions so uh those are the three options next slide so I'll take any additional questions and then I think uh any direction on any of those three options or if there's any other options that you may have that I didn't capture those were what was brought up at the May 3rd discussion so I'm happy to stand for questions and take Direction mayor let me uh U go first and then I'll go to the mayor p uh Roberto um the the members of the Civil Service Commission receive some level of compensation correct I don't know I know if Jason might know that answer to that question I know off the top of my head Roberto this is Katie that's correct they do receive compensation so they have some status similar to that of an employee if they're receiving compensation of correct an at will appointed position correct um and then they're the only uh commission that does receive compensation am I am I correct in that I believe so no the Planning Commission also receives um the Planning Commission also receives um a small stien okay well I think for those that I I think for those where there is no uh remuneration or or St um you know I I don't think there should be a background check quite frankly but in in those that are I think there should be a background check um mayor Pam uh yes mayor and actually I agree uh with with that um I think it would be too difficult to try to do it for 32 boards but I do think um planning and zoning and Civil Service um are you know extremely important and do make um binding decisions and and do receive compensation as you stated so I I I think that would be um probably the right move to make on the other boards and commissions maybe just adding um the question to the application would be good thank you other uh questions or comments mayor uh Council m c um so Roberto I thought we did also have some discussion and maybe this has to come forward separately about conflicts of interests being disclosed as well or having a question on the application about conflicts of interests do we need to address that separately from this no we can address that tonight and and I apologize that it's a good uh catch I I had written in my notes and I it did not make those questions so yeah we could ask simply a disclosure of any conflict of interest add a question that but simply ask them to disclose any conflict of interest that they may have sure as of their participation language we can do that we certainly that question I think that's a good point further questions comments vers customer vers thank you um would it be too much trouble to go back to the slide that had the number one and number two adri can you back over there and those okay those are the ones that would ask the question so you would uh pretty much just put a conflict of interest is like number three yeah yeah we could yeah it would be a fourth question well the employment history isn't really a question it's just to list out their employment history and then we'd add a third question to these two interest okay um that first sentence in number one what will we find in an internet internet search or press coverage or did you mean to say of press coverage uh I meant to say of but I could I could say I could say or uh or press coverage I meant to say of narch of press coverage okay I I just read it and put or in there so I guess it really doesn't matter but could I ask legal now if someone lies to us on this um or or any of the three questions would we have better standing to ask that person to step down or not choose them period and that can certainly be used as a reason for why you're choosing a different person to be on a board okay you know that it seems that's kind of subjective um to the individual it seems like maybe that's something I think uh council member Marano did his own internet search I think during the last uh process and and was able to find things it seems like maybe that's something we should do as opposed to ask them to um say if there was something controversial which is I mean tons of stuff on me it's controversial on a daily basis I don't think it's controversial well I mean honestly it depends on what it is but if they you know if they if they want to be on one of these two boards and commissions you know they need to tell the truth and we need to be able to trust them I think that's that's what I'm getting good point so you what you're saying it's it's the you want to go with these two questions but limit it to the Civil Service Commission and the Planning Commission yes correct okay very well okay further uh uh yeah um I tell you what what I like to do is see if we can get a consensus on this option May HS Council M Hills um on this internet searching of yourself to find something controversial I mean I know fairness I've probably tweeted something about you that made it controversial I don't see how um I don't know I just it's very subjective yeah I've had so I mean if you Google me you'll find depending on where you look you know something that me and two of my colleagues personally burned the American flag I wouldn't put that in an article or a submit that as evidence of something controversial because it was based on slander so I just think you know with the internet and blogs and personal blogs and social media you know anybody can write anything yeah I I agree okay further discussion what if I um Roberto can you go over what what does a standard employee go through uh turns of a background check what are our employees go through we goal background check every employe contract full employ oh you're coming in broken ouch um can you go again I you were kind of hard there we go he now no it's not good now go ahead all right I'll go ahead I'm not coming through it's pretty bad yeah is there Jason can you uh go on this okay somebody do we have an HR Director a temp our temporary HR Director I'm just wondering if we I guess my point is I'm wondering if we should limit it to the same background okay yeah there go took me a second to unmute um yeah all employees go through a standard background check so it's um a pretty standard background piece for us where it's administered by um you know our human resources department uh so it's a it's a pretty standard that's for for the the bulk of our employees I would say for obviously for civil service we have a a bit more extensive background check process but standard employees would just go through a background check where we do a criminal history check um and a few other um checks on on on them so just kind of what we considered a standard background check I'm sorry what did you mean the Civil Service being more comprehensive so for um police and fire applicant a little bit more yes police and fire employees get a bit more of a you know thorough background check where typically um you know we'll uh do uh other reference checks and inperson checks for where they live different things like that so no okay so I let me ask this question uh see if I can get a sense of our our members and that is what if we go with the standard background check for a city employee um for uh members of the Civil Service Commission and the uh um Planning Commission uh is there any objection to that so Mar this is Angela I just want to get a clarification of what you're stating so instead of doing a comprehensive because comprehensive I mean some people may look at that as employment criminal um Financial it I mean so you're just saying we're not doing both of these questions your proposal is what the city of Aurora does on their background checks is that correct yeah yeah on theiry not not for you know Civil Service which meaning police and fire that's that's different I I think you're looking for different issues there but I think if anything is it really stands out I think it would come out through there I think that it's very subjective to ask somebody I think uh council member hilts is I agree with her that that's just awfully subjective to say for somebody particularly somebody that could be involved in campaigns or in an activist or in politics in some way to say what's what's controversial about your life about something you said I just don't think that's appropriate and uh so I I just really think that for I I don't think quite frankly we should do a background check on all the other boards and commissions I just think those twoo um and uh and I think it's just a standard employment background check that that the city does that would extend over to uh those two commissions uh any other any further discussion uh mayor I'm sorry this is Katie did would you are you wanting to do a criminal background check or an appointment the same exact check that you do for um city employees no different you can do that uh is there any objection to doing that among our me okay I saying none let's move forward with that then uh item number um mayor sorry I do have one question counc mes so I understand not putting the controversial um news media question but what about the conflict of interest and the if we were to do a criminal background check questions I I think your conflict of interest you're right on that um but but I think that a criminal background check is currently done on our employees uh uh can somebody staff answer that yes it is sorry mayor to clarify I meant um for all boards and commissions that we ask at least the conflict of interest question and maybe we still the other well I mean if you're on the human relations commission give me an example maybe the liquor is it the what is it called the licensing liquor licensing what is that called she's saying just ask the question not not do a check but what but that's really hard Define uh what is a conflict of interest on some of these boards and commissions um I mean I was on the human relation commission what's that please proceed oh for example if you were on the board of adjustments and appeals and you had items that were likely to come before them or regularly were involved in projects that might come before them okay might be a conflict right and there are in most cases maybe not every border commission and in that case people probably will just say I have no conflicts but it's pretty common um if you're on any type of board to be asked if you have a conflict is there any objection to adding conflict a conflict of interest question to uh well it clearly should be um for Planning Commission and for Civil Service Commission and having it on all boards and commission is there is there objection to that okay we'll move forward with that as well U any other uh um further discussion mayor this is Katie just for clarification um please so for all of the applications you would like to include the conflict of interest question and not the two additional Gathering questions is that that's correct that's correct and then do you want to include the three previous employers and the duration of employment and reason for leaving um but that isn't that in isn't there an equivalent provision in the uh the normal um application process or the background check process isn't that I'm sorry this would be for all of the applications all the boards and commissions we do ask um so we were just wondering if you wanted this included on all of the boards and commission applications if Council would like the previous three employers and reason the discussion I'm I'm I mean I'm not um um mayor yeah mayor um I'm trying to I'm trying to ascertain whether that would be pertinent I mean obviously it would be for Planning and Zoning Civil Service um I'm just trying I was trying to think of what what committee you would want to know their employment status and why they left I don't maybe somebody else can come up with it you hear me okay this is Roberto yeah Roberto it was only really to to get a back to the Civil Service not to that we're legislating to the exception but you know you you give the appli applicant a a affirmative he has to affirmatively or she has to affirmatively say why they left the position we don't have that ability that was not included to be application so I like that I I like that um Roberto I like that on U planning zoning I like that in Civil Service I don't understand why I would be on the others yeah mayor this is Angel I don't I mean for the regular ones like human relations like the Civic engagement one that's coming up I mean you're really asking a lot for people to put three employ this that's volunteer you're really going to to me discourage people from even wanting to do this because they might as well go and do apply for something a job or something I mean this is volunteer and I just think you're going to lose a lot of people when you're asking all of this for this for more the basic commissions I won't be agreeing on that one I think it's invasive uh further discussion okay so um if I understand this right that um the question is is whether or not to move forward uh with uh so we will do the background check uh background checks uh as per an employee goes uh goes forward with for the Planning Commission the Civil Service Commission uh we will add in if if it's not there the last three employers I think for those uh we will have uh conflict of interest um uh statements uh on for all the applications across the board uh is there anything I miss is there any objection great thank you um a 4B Capital infrastructure whoa ouch master plan no Recreation and open space may I just if I could just start this off by saying uh you know Pros has a lot of projects and I think we have asked Brooke to uh identify a stopping point so we don't go through all of the projects and anticipation of this being a late evening so I'm not sure how many projects she's looking at at walking you through but we do have a a break point too okay let let me just ask you this um is there anything that is uh I know that you have a schedule to move us through these uh but how would it would it detrimental is there anything time sensitive if we delay this to the next study session we we could delay it to the next study session okay well if because if you would like to proceed with the whole thing no I'm just kidding um is there any objection to uh to laying uh this uh Capal infrastructure master plan uh Pros presentation over till the next study session is there any objection I just have a question council member hilts oh council member hilts sorry yeah I do um I I mean I would like to get through it you know we are adding some pretty significant topics to some future agendas and we're going to have more things coming out of you know policy committees and whatnot so I think um you know especially if they've already identified a stopping point in anticipation of us running late that we should get through that especially because we've also asked them to sit through this meeting the past three hours okay saying that there is objection uh uh please proceed with item number four B Brook Bill mayor I think council member Gardner had a question or comment Council Gardner uh then Brook Bell please proceed okay Katie let's see I'll share it here Katie do you do you all see the screen yes okay so quickly um when we discuss um so I'm going to talk about unfunded Capital needs so this is primar a list of unfunded Capital needs there are some partial funding in our budget um typically we have about 11.5 million dollars that we'll fund each year of capital needs it comes from open space conservation trust some gifts and grants and Parks Development Fund so I wanted to give you a perspective when we have 11 A5 million what you'll see on this entire list is on the order of 720 million of unfunded unfunded projects we won't necessarily say needs but unfunded projects uh that would have about 32 million doll of ongoing maintenance so these are just projects and properties that have accumulated over time that the city is acquired so signature Park signature park is located if you look here this is a rural Parkway or this is the um this is Buckley and this is is Aurora Parkway I'm sorry um Alam Parkway and this is 144 Acres that we've required if you're this is Buckley Air Force Base up here we have a master plan from 2022 uh that quite dated and so in 2020 I'm sorry 20 and 2002 so in 2022 we're proposing to revisit the master plan this would be a large urban park with could have amphitheaters uh destination playgrounds athletic fields uh a number of things but this original uh master plan is quite expensive at uh nearly $40 million and with significant maintenance so we would be looking for something that is more reflective of the topography up there the original master plan had a significant amount of grading and dirt work just move forward um another unfunded need is Dome Park this is in the southeast part of the city this is Smoky Hill Parkway uh this is also located um east of of E470 it's 22 Acres uh if you see a picture here it's you know it is pretty desolate it's close this is the wheatlands up north of it they contributed money to have this project uh developed uh through their um Parks development funds it could be something like a community park uh pic facilities of the do park it would need a Master Sports Park 2 we've all heard about it's uh creating a second Sports Park in the city of Aurora this is aora Reservoir it would be located down in that area it could even be near scene um or it could be over in what we call section 17 this would be near the um Southeast Recreation SC and we would be looking at close to $40 million for that CL Prairie winds Prairie winds neighborhood park this is located this is the Hampton uh this is padil so PLS Conservation Center is just North here uh this neighborhood this is what it looks like right now there's a bowl if you're standing here at the southern or the bottom end of this picture you are standing over here and looking towards these homes again this is a neighborhood park it's approximately 8 acres and we will be looking at nearly $2 million to develop this project Reservoir community park so this is section 17 Southeast recreation centers that's right about here this is uh infinity Middle School Havana I'm sorry not Havana Harvest and so developing about 40 acres around the southeast Recreation Center develop a community park you're looking at 11.5 million again this could be things like parkour incline Fitness mountain bike course uh we would leave most of this section as open space uh just so we have that nice um open space property down there and still uh benefit from a a great community park there is a special use Park uh designation on a piece of property that is located near the intersection of quiny and Buckley if you're familiar with this area this is lows it's a fairly good siiz piece of property um and it could be things like a special use Park would be basketball it could be tennis pickle ball Fieldhouse it could be indoor outdoor facility and depending on what the neighborhood and what the city could afford it could range in cost between five and $20 million depending on if you buil a structure on that and then these are the partially developed properties Sand Creek Park we've made a lot of progress on what's left here this is Fitz Simmons Parkway so this is north north of the fit Simmons campus what's left here is the Pavilion and two Discovery um playground not playgrounds but Discovery play areas so about 2.2 million red tail HW Community Park um where we have about we've recently purchased nine acres from Cher Creek School District there is about 18 Acres left to be developed and uh this would include the master plan includes U synthetic a or athletic fields these could be synthetic a skate park and again you would be looking at about 11.5 million depending on what was put there medum landscape if you look at this uh diagram here you can see what is landscaped but partially and what's undeveloped we receive approximately $700,000 a year right now um upwards of 1.2 million uh in the future we can develop approximately one and a half to three miles of landscape in that budget there is 40 miles remaining of undeveloped partially developed medians and so that would be looking at 14.5 milon and then Park a spk aor sports park improvements um the area that we're talking about that's still undeveloped is this little portion here this little square here um and so that could be parking additional parking parking is challenged out there uh 300 new parking spaces we certainly could could benefit out there uh from a secondary entrance there's only one way in and one way out on cax um and I think that is about 10 million Park renovation and improvements we are constantly spending money on improving our existing infrastructure and re renovating Parks if you're to look at what we still have going on and can work on this is things like playgrounds cour irrigation um we would be looking at onetime Capital needs of 44 [Music] million Bicentennial Park renovation Bicentennial Park located on Alam Avenue and theic this area here is a former miniature golf location and then we also have this very large U beautiful Park grassy area in trees um this is 20 acres it may be well suited for uh a rental uh a wedding a destination uh Garden or um for weddings parties receptions um similar to Huds and Gardens but maybe on a smaller scale to do something like that would be approximately [Music] 25 and then delmare Park Delmar Park is uh located 6th Avenue and georia it's a beautiful Park um there is a master it's partially uh it's been developed with its master plan but there's about 24 Acres remaining that is like I said grass and Fields it could be um a lot of trees could be added there could be some more definition around the sports Fields create walkway through the park I would say this is a lower priority Pro uh project uh but to fulfill the master plan we' be looking at four million and then the Highline ball fields uh these are located near Poria and delare park a picture here you see we have uh five ball fields there is a way to redo these ball fields and fit a six ball field in there and that would be $3 million there's just a huge demand for Sports in these ball fields so uh we think it is a an appropriate project and then we get into park Paving we've done an inventory in all our parking lots there is not an ongoing source of funding for the park parking lots and so right now we'd be looking at $10 million to go in and and fix our parking lots and res stripe them and fix the track we are doing that work currently and have it in our our budget for schort and I can stop there we're getting close to 10 and that gets us about halfway through the slid I will let I say I will add one more land Acquisitions because it's one slide we put 10 million in we're talking about 10 million this is really to identify properties in the northern part of town primarily Northwest aora where we could um identify properties and park lands uh that would fill uh that we could develop um and improve uh the equity in our Park system and next year we put in our budget or we're proposing in our capital budget uh a park master plan and that will include an equity plan uh to look at gaps and deficiencies in our our system across the CA and then thank you uh questions I have one and that are two uh one is uh you mentioned trees in dmar park I think anywhere we could put trees I would assume that not only is it beautification but I would think that it would save us in terms of irrigation I would agree and delar park I would also look there we would also look there converting some of those areas into native grasses have those trees okay it is a it is one of our bigger water consumers and is there any value to somebody was trying to pitch me artificial turf today is there any value to that on a sports field yes there is yes there is and it does save you I don't have the specific uh water amounts that you'd save there is maintenance um but it would save you money on water but it also does it provide um a better surface in terms of playing all year round versus grass it certainly extends the athletic season where yes okay thank you further uh questions comments mayor council Council miio uh thank you and thank you for the presentation Brooke um a couple of things uh dmar isn't in my ward but I know a lot of my constitu visit the you know just just on the other side so I think it's technically in three um but I would love to see what we did with Utah Park um happened with Delmar Park I mean it's completely transformed the usability the connection that the community has with the land um and that Park specifically um and it's a you know it's a higher dense area um W one so I mean in terms of priority I know it's not in my district but I I personally think that that there could be a lot of benefit there um just in terms of us trying to get back into the community trying to engage with one another and I certainly know that this would take a long time but I've just been impressed and amazed at the transformation that the Utah park has um seeing it just it looks nothing like it used to um and I definitely would want that for my constituents so I just urging a little support there um and then second um really excited to hear that you'll be conducting kind of a mini Equity plan um I've been pushing for years for the city to um take on an equity plan um so this could be kind of starting the you know those conversations and I I have a couple of constituents that I'd love to connect you with um kind of talking about like social determinance of Health as it relates to um our planning processes and specifically Parks um Pros Department and um we know when I was on the committee two years ago I believe uh we found that there was actually a deficit of park space in Ward one so I'm really happy to see that that that data we're using that data to help inform that strategy um I would offer comments around any potentially closing Aurora public schools in the area I can't think of any other like potential swaths of land that could um that wouldn't cost an arm and a leg in today's market um that could be potentially um a space for us to look at land acquisition and to me there's a dual benefit in preserving well having more park space and preserving um Community usage of a specific land and uh an example of you know another thing we might explore down the line was in globeville alyia swans when one of their schools closed down um they rent they turned it into a park and kept the building as a community center not a recreation center but a community center for different organizations to um you know nonprofit organizations and such so you know just throwing that out there as another way to potentially um adaptively reuse essential space that we make further U um further discussion yes May uh thank you um Brooks are you going to so you're doing this part of the presentation then you're going to continue is that what I understood yes there's about another yeah there's about another 25 pages to yeah I it will be open and it's quite I I will say it's less glamorous it's going to be the maintenance facilities and it's the open space right Open Space is really cool but yeah so so should I save my question on the capital funding slide of how we get revenues or how we allocate money I would we can we can go back and circle circle back on that conversation because I'll I'll save it for later um so then then my question on this one is um you mentioned Sports Park two and it when we look at sports park one it does produce revenue for the city correct it does so do you have any idea of you know like payback time frame or oh um I don't but I want to say the revenues are are I want to say the revenues at Sports Park 2 are about $2 million a year and we think about I'm sorry Sports Park one are about $2 million a year um and so if you think about the investment of 40 million to build the sports park to um the real I think the real value in these Sports Parks is the the visitations that it brings into the city so it's it's the visitors that bring it and then so then it goes beyond to hotels restaurants okay thank you further questions further discussion council member thank you uh Brooke I would love to talk with you about um B Centennial Park and I know um delmare has has had a huge um I me took two years of community input to come up with their master plan so you know when we talk about a centennial let's go over that too it's probably one of the highest used parks in the city it is packed all the time it it's a it's a busy Park um it's yes it's a busy Park and I would also say that all of these ideas that I was sharing with you in these properties they would require um Community input we would work with the communities uh as far as what they want also what is a you know what is an appropriate distribution of different amenities across these parts um and update the old Master plans because what people wanted 20 years ago may not be what they want to be yeah thank you I appreciate that further discussion mayor CC M thank you sir um so broe I want to touch on two parks and then I'll save my Rec uh Center questions for next time so um with special use Park uh one of the things I noticed when I was reviewing our backup is that that is you know that Lowe's parking lot looked awfully empty and I saw you know the parking lot for that Park uh was kind of like in the center and I'm just wondering if this is something if we've considered maybe seeing if we could partner with the adjacent Property Owners to see if we could expand that parking lot but have like a joint use agreement or something like that as a means to save some of that initial Capital uh you know to build out that park I think that's a great idea great discuss sorry yeah and then uh B sentennial I actually did receive a comment from a constituent who is a uh frequent user of our parks and rec centers of but he's concerned about the plans for Bicentennial due to access for older aorin that the topography there is a little you know challenging as is so I guess I'm curious uh that budgeted amount that you showed us how much um you know would go into I guess regrading or is that even something that we were really considering for that area it would depend it would depend on what what is put there and how it would fit I imagine there would be some grading involved but it really depends on what the master plan how the master plan would be developed and what what ends up with that part sure I guess specifically he was concerned about the Hudson Gardens Treatment and uh I guess he was also under the impression that was supposed to be a recreation center at some point so so you know that's a good point as far as the recreation center there was a study done by a Citizens group quite a while ago um and there were three recreation centers two of them have been built Central and Southeast was being built the third one was their recommendation was by Centennial um we're very close to there would have to be further consideration and that and I'm going to talk about recreation centers later but we are very close to the aora you know the Fieldhouse you would say so that may change the perspective on wanting a recreation center there all right thank you further questions comments saying n great presentation thank you very much appreciate it look forward to the remainder of it um item number 4C uh 2021 fireworks approach yeah good evening are we going to go ahead and share the presentation please please next slide so this is data uh back to 2017 if you look at 2020 that was last year everyone knows that last year complaints were up significantly this number on this slide for 2020 is only through the 911 call center and I'll get to uh some information later about how that's staffed all those calls aren't necessarily 911 calls but they could be also through a communication Channel related to um a fireworks basically event line that staffed and we also assist and Supply Personnel to answer those calls as well we're going to take a little different approach this year and that with that telephone Staffing event line we are then going to put that information into access aora on the fireworks complaint lines but I'll get to that a little bit later but I wanted to kind of give you that information next slide please so this is the data we're going to collect for this year complaints summons responses fires and follow-ups follow-ups is Big we haven't done this uh in the past we started last year and by follow-ups meaning when we actually call through all the complaints on access Aurora if there were viable complaints that identified a potential person that was using illegal fireworks we actually went out and identified those folks um 375 so our group here 12 of us went and basically made contact with 30 75 citizens uh asking them basically are you willing to sign a complaint and testify in court so we could give the violators a summons out of 375 contacts one person was willing to do that and that person um that that citizen identified was given a summons the next slide please so here's the complaint process the communications center non-emergent line that's the event staffing line I alluded to earlier we will supply additional Personnel from July 1st to July 4th to fi those calls the online Complaint Form which is access Aurora 911 so basically these phone these phone calls are going to be um evaluated and if there's an immediate threat to life or property then they will dispatch an APD car or a fireworks patrol car um or if there's the active fire obviously or a as well and we have to remember that if a summons is issued it does have potential gel time and um the the critical piece here that I think really hasn't been communicated effectively over the past years is that these violations require witness and require someone to testify and if we have complaints whether they receive through 911 or through the non-emergent line or through access Aurora when we make contact with these citizens that identify that the use and the people that respond don't actually see it and the complaintant is not willing to testify or sign a a complaint then our hands are are somewhat tied next slide please so this is our strategy this year um last year we didn't have our partners with APD with us because of variety of reasons so just the investigations and inspections group that I overse drove around the city and basically just did more of an education and confiscation um I believe we issued two summons but as we all know last year was somewhat unique and uh very difficult to enforce a law enforcement um perspective or aspect of what we do with not having our our counterparts with us so this year beginning July 1st through the 3D we're going to staff five cars those cars will be one APD member and one Aurora fire member and then on the actual Fourth of July we're going to staff nine total cars and then on the fifth we're going to do five cars again we've already set the dates for the firework tickets if they're issued or summons and uh our follow-ups have already begun so when I say our follow-ups meaning if we received a complaint through access Aurora we have actually already gone out and contacted four different individuals that filed an online complaint and two summons have already been issued uh up to this point the critical piece about the online Complaint Form was just a lot of generalities of where the fireworks were being used that were illegal of course last year all fireworks were illegal because of fire band but um we kind of revised the Complaint Form to really identify in their name and location and we'll get to that I'll have a specific example for the form so you can see it next SL slide please so marketing education we've had a lot of dialogue and information that's been routed through the fire department related to what's illegal what's not illegal uh when are fireworks going to be allowed to be sold and used etc etc and these are the the channels that have been utilized already all these are already in place in a very descriptive uh explanation of what is permissible what is not um there is no current fire ban right now get to the indices and those measures here shortly and I just wanted to share this with you so we were really waiting on how are we going to message this because as you know um we have to read these indices as close to the sales date of permissible fireworks and that commences June 15th so what we agreed on was June 11th it gives us that week and then it projects out a week in the future so we could identify what those indices would be a week from now based on uh the projected weather pattern so even as of now it was really great that we got some rain um last night but leading up to even this week the indices are all within the threshold that would not require us to implement a fire band next slide please so contributing factors last year I've already alluded to it fire ban um it was the driest summer we've had in many many years the governor plls initiated a State wide fire ban um the other thing that's critical was there was was no July 4th spectacular show last night or last year because of Co this year we are doing uh the firework show uh it's going to be kind of a paired down uh event in that there's no entertainment people will be allowed on the Great Lawn out front um we will be shooting off fireworks or a vendor will be shooting off fireworks over by Centennial Park so a lot of other things have to go on this year compared to last year which uh anecdotally I believe that the illegal fireworks will be paired down some what compared to last year because there was no show and there were no permissible sales allowed in the city so allowing the fireworks based on the indices I mentioned earlier the fm1000 the ERC which is the energy release component and the US drought monitor those three things are measured weekly we've done it for years and if those fall beh below a certain threshold then we have um basically a requirement to either implement a stage two or stage three fire band depending on how dry and what those are and I can go into more detail about those measures I put all of those uh definitions in the appendix if uh you want to look at them further or if you want me to explain them I certainly can do that next slide please kind of went overall this last year uh brush and grash fires were up 53% it was the worst Wildland Fire season in the state um 75% of the state was in severe drought and we also had the Wildland team deployment uh all over the state and some cases other states so it really was a multifaceted um and then we had covid so last year was a very difficult year and I'm just providing some explanations why I believe and the fire department believes it was such a chaotic year related to illegal fireworks usage next slide please so here is the online Complaint Form um we've already started education efforts in June engaging the community and here's the specific Complaint Form so it's very specific witness complaint contact info who are you who is complaining about the fireworks usage the location uh you can even attach photos or video and um a box for if you know who the name of the person is home address vehicle description license plate and then the last piece which is critical is are you willing to sign a complaint and testify in court and that box needs to be checked any of these complaints that are filled out and have that information we will follow up with them at their home and follow through with them we did last year like I said 375 folks we contacted after and we've already started it in June 1 of this year of really trying to get out ahead of it and being proactive and really looking at different ways that we could make this a safer fourth July for everybody next slide please and that's um the conclusion of this but can you go to the next slide please I just want to share a couple more pieces of information so those are the fire band measures basically it's fuel moisture content and they're they're measured in three different categories 1,110 10 being a smaller diameter fuel 1,00 being a larger diameter diameter of fuel and once those drop below 12 perc that's when we have to become concerned about the ERC the energy release component going up which is more fuel uh more energy is released which creates more British thermal units and becomes more problematic when the fuel moisture is dry if that makes sense contact the University of car of older weather stations um really put a lot of research into this so we could be really informed and instead of just having this one indic C then we expanded and went into the actual um drought index for the United States and then also we take into consideration if there're surrounding counties that are in a fire ban as well next slide please uh next slide that just goes into more in depth about the measures next slide and that's kind of what the um map looks at that we look at every month or I'm sorry every week it kind of identifies the areas that are drought uh d0 through five are the measures um believe it or not we were actually at normal two weeks ago I I will take the the measures again this Friday to continue to monitor that can go next slide please and next slide I want to get to the next Slide the messaging component next slide next slide next slide one more there we go so these have all been implemented and I know we got some information or some uh questions last week about what are we doing to educate the community on what fireworks are legal um which ones are illegal when you can use them uh what could possibly be the penalties so I just embedded these in this presentation so you all could see the messaging that's already started and we'll continue to go on uh next slide that's Twitter additional slide please akr T email newsletter and one more I believe oh you just went one pass and then the the one fireworks uh message can you now share the other document that I uploaded in the backup please so this is the last piece here for the presentation then you all can certainly ask as many questions as you need to and hopefully I can answer them or I can go in more depth with you but this planning process for the Fourth of July really begins in January of every year so we have stakeholder meetings that commence February and go all the way through June and then we'll have two more additional meetings before the actual Fourth of July so not only do we have to inspect the fireworks ordinance that we are sponsoring over at the Bicentennial Park but we also have to develop a a myriad of components to make sure everything is lined up can you just scroll to the next page please so from the identification of all internal external stakeholders to working on a message plan you can go to the next one please and we have timelines for when all this stuff is going to be completed so if you look at social media under social media you have you know Twitter Facebook Aurora fire department um um the next door you have the city website you can scroll down and then message boards you probably have seen them already we've already placed them throughout the city that identifies certain fireworks are not permissible that leave the ground or explode and the fines 2650 potentially um and the signs that they'll also be utilized on 470 as well if you can scroll down please there's the example of the the slide so each stakeholder group that that we meet with beginning in January you know we segment all these things out and everyone has basically responsibilities and we tie it all together and I mean from the enforcement approach that you saw in the presentation that's in here if you scroll down a little bit more please uh this is the actual Staffing for the day for APD scroll down keep going go ahead and go all the way down a little bit further yeah thank you okay I'll stop right there so all of this work thank you all this work really is to build and develop what's called an incident Action Plan so once we get all of those components figured out staffings figured out messaging figured out um the communications plan all of those things then we build an incident Action plan for the actual July 4th the incident Action Plan covers everything that possibly could happen and then also allow for what's called Bing incident if it becomes larger or something catastrophic happens so the reason why I wanted to share this document with all of you is that this planning process for the fourth is very systematic it's detailed there's a lot of work a lot of stakeholders that are involved and we'll continue to try to refine this approach so um we have a productive and safe Fourth of July and the the difficult thing is really those measures in the fire band and and Roar fire rescue has the authority even with the ordinance to implement a fire band based on those indices that I discussed earlier and it's it's critical that we're consistent with that and we have been very consistent with the measures they've never deviated from if they don't fall within those guidelines but uh having a timeline identified of when we could allow um the vendors to start setting up tents and go through the temporary use permit process was very difficult because it could take them 3 to four days to set the tents up for the sale of fireworks but the indices might not allow that because it's too dry this year things worked out for everybody the indices were were within measures uh we got everyone through the temporary use permit process um we also have an operational permitting fee that was instituted this year that's $500 per tent and then of course the sales tax that will be generated from that as well but um yeah the indices were were big and we needed to have a hard fast date on that and June 11th is it lastly and in closing before we we take questions um other data that we're going to be collecting from this access aora complaint line is we're going to start developing heat maps and identifying problematic areas so then not only can we have a focused approach with enforcement in those areas but it gives us great data for for f future evaluation so that concludes my presentation for the the planning process as well as the past historical information are there any questions that I can answer mayor questions uh mayor Pon well first I want to say thank you I know you guys put in a lot of work like you said since the beginning of this year um to to you know analyze all the the um components that go into determining if there's going to be a fire ban how how dry things are and then and I really uh want to commend you on the educational campaign because I know there was confusion in past years and so I appreciate that my one uh maybe suggestion is on the the placard the e471 where you highlighted some fireworks are legal in aora June 15 through July 4th is that the sell is during that time but not the use the sale and use from June 15th till July 4th okay it is the use okay I was thinking it was one or the other so okay that's that was my question thank you further further questions ver council member vers thank you yeah you gave this um at Public Safety and it was good to hear it the second time I'm sitting here listening to fireworks go off in my neighborhood fill out access aora Complaint Form we'll be there tomorrow no I won't that but I do like the heat map thought I think that that will add a different dimension as to what you're doing and how are you're going to track things down so but I want to say thank you for the presentation and all the hard work thank you appreciate it further discussion questions May uh council member Mario sorry Angel I beat you right to the punch on that one um just uh real quick I I think I mean it was like firework mageddon last year it was crazy to drive around and just see the the fog and the haze I mean I couldn't even just see a couple feet past me so I'm I don't think anything could have been done about last year and I think um there was a lot of pent up frustration so hopefully that was a an anomaly um and that we can kind of return back to um more stability and I really appreciate the uh the city and the fire department taking a really strong proactive approach I think inevitably I too I'm listening to fireworks being popped off um just nearby and I so I think inevitably people are going to um light fireworks and whether or not people feel comfortable reporting them or not is a is a entirely different I guess consideration my thought is um you know are there any self-help opportunities or options we might might be able to support our constituents with you know what I've heard is proactive enforcement and what our plan is to kind of manage the volume but again we're not going to we're not going to be able to control or stop people from doing it we know that we have a lot of folks who suffer from PTSD I'm particularly sensitive with having the VA in the district and just having a strong military presence um you know would it be possible for to support things like no noise cancelling headphones like a rental program or you know partner with the VA for like a a safe space during the Fourth of July celebration you know I'm not sure or even just a couple days before after if people want to spend some time in a space that they know um is is a safe space maybe a little more insulated not sure if that resource exists um as you know as I'm describing but you know how can we help people help themselves um maybe another idea is maybe partnering with a business or company to subsidize the cost of noise insulating windows I know that we talk about them when we think about like the airport zones and trying to make uh greater allowances for higher noise um just a few thoughts because I I think both are would be really great to have okay thank you further uh questions discussion mayor I just had a question council member Lawson Chief K thank you for the um for the presentation I know that last year I brought up a lot of my concerns about this and we discussed it in the public safety committee meeting the question I have for you is that will there still be followup if someone provides a complaint even after the 4th of July because they still that's just what some of my neighbors are wondering with those efforts still continue because people still pop fire uh firecrackers through Labor Day whenever but I just wanted to know if that would could still continue with the followup yes so last year our follow-ups went into um September yeah so we just continue if we get a complaint on there we will certainly follow up and contact the the citizen welome further discussion I saying none thank you very much for the briefing appreciate it thank you um uh miscellaneous I I would like um uh Dan brosman uh if you could uh uh without objection uh if you could give us a a very brief uh rundown about the voting uh for the replacement for award two um position sure would be happy to um the charter uh Section 3 .7 and section 54-4 of the code talk about uh Council must appoint a a replacement within 45 days of the resignation in this case the both both the charter and the ordinance require a majority vote of council so at the end of the day it it doesn't matter how you get there but at the end of the day this requires six votes from Council to pass um I I believe you're going to see a proposal from the clerk to use the same methodology that you did for planning and zoning to get down to get there the only real requirement of the charter the ordinances and and your rules are is the final vote and and I know there a number of questions of what happens if we get to vote at the it's now possible you could this is a motion the mayor votes in this you could get to a five5 vote and again the charter the the ordinances your rules your Council rules don't talk about how to resolve this so it's solely by agreement that there's no law there there's no guiding force out there this is up to council how you're going to solve this you you could draw lot if this was an election uh the charter actually has a provision for Council Members if there's a tie vote it goes to drawing Lots you can do that if you want you can have another system if you'd like but but at the end of the day it's council's agreement on how you're going to resolve a TI vote if that actually happens so that would be if there were members that we were deadlocked and there were six members that's what I have mayor I oh if we were deadlocked and we had um and we were deadlocked and then but you had six members to decide that we wanted to flip a coin they could do that that would be the rule then going forward that would make the decision am I correct okay you're muted correct correct okay are there any questions saying none thank you Mr BOS appreciate it um uh seeing no other business before the the council uh Council Jed 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