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Number McCormick here, member Martinez present member Baldwin Day present member Johnson, your chair, constant Vice Chair Bradley here, member of Oland. Happy to be here. Member Silvers here, member Rivera present member Kercher here pressure due here Cannes to have a quorum. >> Thank you, Mr. Johnson, would you please let us pledge allegiance. Just Mister Chair. all >> Thank you, Mr. Very would you please read the land acknowledgement? Yes, Mister chair, a land acknowledgment is a formal statement recognizing the indigenous people of the place. It is a public gesture of appreciation for the past and present indigenous stewardship of the lands that we now occupy. It is an actionable statement that marks a collective movement towards decolonization and equity. The Anchorage Assembly would like to acknowledge that we gather today on the traditional land to the denying at the Basket thousands of years to deny to have been and continue to be the stewards of this land. It is with great fondness and respect that we recognize the contributions. Innovations and contemporary perspectives of the Upper Cook Inlet. Tonight. Thank you, Mr. Rivera. Next, we will move to minutes of previous meetings. We do have minutes from the meeting of August. 12th 2025 regular meeting like to ask for a motion to approve. 2 second motion to approve Biden's probably sending on. there any discussion? Senior notes Kushner like to ask unanimous consent and objection of the adoption of the motion. no objection. The motion is adopted for past nervously. Next we have the mayor support Madam Mayor. >> Thank you. Chair constant and good evening, everyone. It's really fun to look out and see. Former members of the assembly here tonight and other members of the public. I appreciate the opportunity to share a few updates before we dive into the evening's agenda. First, I want to take a moment to acknowledge an important milestone in 1975. The city of Anchorage and the Greater Anchorage Area Bureau United to become the municipality of Anchorage. That's half a century of growth, resilience and community spirit. Not to mention a lot of assembly meetings and public testimony. Our 50th anniversary or what we're unification. And I think Vice chair braly that may that may have been a term that you coined is not just about looking back at where we've been. It's about looking ahead with renewed energy and considering how we will work together to shape the next 5 decades. And I really appreciate the community of communities that we are and how folks from Girdwood to Eagle River Chugiak Birchwood Eagle River turning an arm, celebrate local pride in local control, too, in the coming months. It will be several opportunities to join in celebrating this anniversary, starting with our M Away 50 kick off on Friday, September 5th, the summer's final night Market Town Square Park, the full calendar of Emily. 50 events is available at Muni Dot Org. Slash 50 where you can also share your own stories about encourage participate in games and activities and sign-up toast unaffiliated event. Huge thanks to Assembly legislative team and my team also for pulling all of these events together. Next. I want to commend the exceptional public safety work demonstrated last week in the interagency law enforcement operation at the Chelsea Hotel. This significant effort was led by the FBI with critical assistance provided by the Anchorage Police Department. This collaboration was instrumental in ensuring a successful outcome directly enhancing the safety and security of our community. This operation is a powerful example of what can be achieved when law enforcement agencies work together. And it underscores our commitment to public safety in the municipality. My sincere thanks. Go out to all the officers and all the agents involved in this effort. Finally, I want to extend my sincere gratitude to our entire municipal team for their extraordinary efforts. Earlier this month during the Trump couldn't summit at Jay Bear hosting an event of this magnitude on short notice is a really big undertaking. And it required immense coordination long hours and unparalleled professionalism from multiple departments from APD and AfD to emergency Management Traffic, our administrative staff and more municipal teams played an important role in ensuring that the summit proceeded smoothly and safely. These accomplishments reflect the strength and spirit of our municipality. So thank you, everyone for that tremendous effort. Thank you. I look forward to a productive discussion tonight March air. If the bodies amenable, I'd love to invite APD chief case up to speak more about the interagency operation. >> And answer any questions. Members may have chief case. ♪ >> Thank you, Madam Mayor Mr. Chair. >> So just want to add some some comments about the the Chelsea Hotel in that operation. First of all, I think it's really important for us always to recognize the collaboration that we use here locally and statewide with our federal partners, our state partners. >> Throughout the municipality. We simply couldn't be as effective as we are without that relationship that we have with some of our partners. This is an FBI led case. You know, since 2020, we've had well over 1000 calls for service specifically at this hotel that does not include all of the surrounding areas and the impact throughout the neighborhood that. Started in and around this hotel and that impact of that community. And so in the last year there's been a pretty heavy emphasis on making what happened on the 22nd come to fruition. We had multiple jurisdictions out there. Certainly also think the U.S. attorney's office are pushing this case forward at the end of the day, what happened is, you know, we the federal government along with the Anchorage Police Department executed a couple search warrants on that particular day. The hotel and to residents, 2 arrests were made. Thousands rounds ammunition were seized. Firearms were seized. $35,000 in cash and a substantial quantity of controlled substances. That will be tested as a later date. certainly the theory was a lot of fentanyl that was taken out of that area. And so that's the criminal portion of it. And once that portion moves on, the police department stayed in the area. We continue remain the area because when you run these types of operations, we know that that's not the end of it. Some of the people that were coming and going from that neighborhood. They're going to continue to come and go from that neighborhood in search of what they were getting at the hotel and so making sure that we have continue can use resources, not just police resources but outreach efforts as well in the area. So those folks that need some sort of assistance can also get that as well. So it kind of again shows that municipalities continued effort to not just enforce the law make sure that we prosecute those that need prosecution. But also provide services that don't that that that need those services within a couple hours of the of the operation. There are already 3. Individuals that some of our partners we have to get into treatment. So its covering that broad spectrum of how respond. To not just crime, but some of the underlying issues that have led to that some of the chaos within the neighborhood. probably in the queue for it. You. Yeah. First, thank you. I know this has been huge problem in the spin our neighborhood for a long time. >> Probably since before I moved here. But I remember hearing about it for the last decade or so. So thank you for the efforts of the coronation. My questions are I saw in the paper there comments about some displaced residents and getting outreach. I'm just wondering, has have those folks who are staying there and we're not part of Hopefully criminal operation. Have they been move to somewhere or have other lodging. And then the other question is, will that be kind of ongoing law enforcement presence in the neighborhood because I know I know there's still folks hanging around there and obviously that's sensitive area now. So just kind of wondering what happens next. Thanks. >> To the chairman Raleigh yet. So the coordination I just met with us marshal. So once the federal government seized property because the U.S. Marshal services. So that's technically the properties in custody of. And so I just had a meeting with him today and coordinating with folks that were staying there, getting property back. so far I'm not aware of the coordination with where they're going, where were any place the states, but certainly their property. We were in the hotel today trying property back for one of the one of the residence. And then we're also setting couple dates out with with U.S. marshals to continue that. >> Thanks and I'm sorry, mother Christmas but ongoing law enforcement presence there. Yes, we've increased our or law enforcement presence, although different. So I want to confuse the to all the different. But when we get the abatement Davis Park, kind of similar to that response to where once the abatement was done, we add additional officers in the area that state in around so kind of twofold that we want to take place when we're in and around the area. Number one, we don't want crime to spread throughout the neighborhood businesses. And we also want to come to get provide outreach within the neighborhood as well. It finds herself free from his I thank you. Thank you. First, I think that we've had a number of calls over the year or 2 about that location. So thank you. First to all of your team, all the joint Task Force. I do have a question that has been raised about how a location gets 5 years 1000 costs, one and C 8 in effect. Can you kind of detail? What the department was doing in relationship to all those calls. Was there a review as their ongoing conversation? Because if we're getting locations, even commercial locations of that number of calls, hopefully you guys have the tools you need. It March air. It's great questions. So the the challenge with going through the N C A T process. When you have a criminal enterprise that's taking place is you pick a path and one past the past you pick is to pass. You go down. >> And theory was is pretty soon as we had a pretty significant. >> Drug seizure involving that hotel in Twenty-twenty that started this process off. That was a volume that was a federal. And our task force officers with the FBI started working that case. You know, that and flowed. So, you know, I can get into details as to why been flow, that that's why we took criminal route pretty much from day one. You know, perfect world, it would take 5 years. But if you've been on the civil route and then the criminal peace just kind of got. >> Thanks notice an oyster to thank you to you and your team for ensuring that that. Placed a broken down. any All right. Thank you. Anything else? No thanks, mayor. Look Also give a brief report. Good evening, everybody. Welcome to our regular business meeting tonight. We have the awesome fortune to kickoff the 50th anniversary of the unification of the municipality. Unification. Some especially exciting night because we have with us all kinds of great historic figures people have sent in these chairs. We even have some. We're going to sit in some of these chairs with us. We have former members of the assembly. Several from district one which are president. I think we have a majority. Also we have former youth members we have in coming up, members least one come in. And so it's awesome that we are able to sit here together and begin the conversation about the 50th anniversary. What it means for now from then into the future. So from now through November will celebrate with many events. As you've heard you learn more. You need a slash 50. That's 5, 0, This is a great opportunity to learn about the roots and how we began envisioning and what we will be doing for hopefully the next 50 years. So hope to find a way to become involved. We start the celebration tonight with a performance by Soul Society of Alaska. So when we come to the resolution that honors the 50th anniversary also have little bit of talent. You see them up in the front row for in the room. And this is just a small taste of the longer performance that you'll see on the 50th anniversary night Market on Friday, September 5th, the town Square Park and Washington last be performing there with food booths and vendors and all kinds of good times. Speaking of Town Square Park, I want to recognize all the hard work the summer that's going into improving this local treasure. I want to thanks. Give thanks to the park's and rec department for all of their work and beautifying and kind of taking back certain parts of the park and women aiding some of the graffiti just cleaning the place up and also like to thank the Anchorage Downtown Partnership for there Thursday night concerts and other events and the administration for making the park priority. And finally, the voters for approving a bond to meaningfully improve and fix some challenges in the park. I would also like to thank my friends, Anita Stats, Nova for starting the Friday night Markets which have been a great addition to the downtown scene, bringing vibrancy and activations Town Square Park on Friday nights all summer long. If you haven't been in a while. The place is beginning to surge with energy and activity. And I really encourage you to come out to the night market on September 5th to help us celebrate 50 years of the municipality. That will be before our next meeting. So it's within just a couple weeks. It's energizing to see what the future holds for Town Square Park. Now on the regular business of the municipality, I would like to know that we have an and you won't miss a pound of Anchorage in place. Survey that's out in the field. So for municipal employees really listening. The survey kicked off yesterday and runs through September 15th. It's really important to the assembly to understand how employees are working and how there satisfaction is. What's working, what's not working so that we can help to improve from the legislative and budgetary side. The operation of the municipality. A team of already implemented many things based on the feedback from the 2024 survey. So I hope Eunice form place can feel confident that your input is listen to valued by both the administration and the assembly. So please take your time. Also, the assembly's work on housing as you can see on the agenda. The municipality is working on a number of items to spur more housing development. Get ahead of the crisis that we've been facing, which it's so challenging to find a place to live, especially an affordable place to live. We're getting some initial indications that the some of this work is definitely leading to more housing construction. In fact, we've heard from the administration that housing permits have increased by more than double in the last year. Housing permits that are filed and starting construction. We include a summary of that work in the initial results in our most recent something newsletter. If you haven't received that, please sign up and dot org slash assembly. We'll send you regular communication about the business that we do. And I do know that we expect a number of folks. Who are former assembly members will just name the ones that I can see here. We'd like to welcome Heather Flynn. I'd like to welcome Patrick friend. I'd like to welcome Pete Peterson. I'd like to welcome Joy Sweet who served as an interim member make a bell served as youth number. And don't know if I missed anyone else is in the room, but I would like to show you out and say we welcome 2. Our celebration after we get through a number of the 10 days, it's begin. The celebration. And Carlson. I don't think we've ever met. Welcome Ed Ted Carlson wrote Ed. At risk of missing anyone. I'm sorry. Welcome 10 across. And I think you're the senior. High-risk assumption. with that, then I'll just say that this is regular meeting as we get to our business were here to do the work. The municipality, please help us create a climate of respect in the chambers by refraining from personal attacks are speaking out of turn, shouting or clapping and pacing unless clapping is an order with the item. Keep sign, stay in half by 11 inches or smaller. Keep the aisles clear unless you're here to testify here to testify. Please line up at the dice. If a point of order is called, please stop speaking. So the chairman on the point of order in the record is clear. rules aren't followed. The chairman rep speakers called for compliance and of compliance tools doesn't occur. The chairman pause the meeting. If a natural destruction occurs. The chairman of the morning and if the destruction persist or happens again, the person will be asked to leave. Other than that. I think. That's my report. Welcome everybody. Let's have a great time tonight. And the next step is committee. Lee has. Our reports will start with. Mr. Mccormick, no reports Thank Marches. Thank you, chair quickly. The next community and Economic Development Committee will meet on Thursday, September 4. >> At 09:00AM at the permit center. Additionally chair reported to you and to Vice Chair Brawley recent appointment from the National Association of counties. But I wanted to put that on the record for my colleagues as well. I've been appointed by the new incoming president of the National Association of Counties, JD Clark. As one of the vice chairs of the House in committee for the Community, Economic and Workforce Development Steering Committee of the National Organization. This is an opportunity for me to continue aligning the work that we're doing here and really chair celebrating our work on a national stage every conference that I've attended this year. And every online interaction with respect to what's happening in housing across the country leads me offer call saying We are leading the way we're out in front. We're doing things that other locations, other counties are looking toward. And so I continue to hope both learn from and then also bring out our successes, too. Other counties across the country. Thank you, chair for your support are in continuing to be that liaison and I look forward to look into network. Thank you. Thank you as well. >> thank you chair. I have a brief report from the Anchorage Metropolitan Area. Transportation Solutions, Policy Committee also known as a mats. For those of you who are unfamiliar with. And that's it's a place where local and state government representatives meet 2 coordinate federally funded transportation projects in the municipality. It is a mechanism for both local representation and local control local autonomy. And I wanted to share a couple of things first at our policy committee meeting last week, we approved a high crash network map which is the result of a lot of data collection by a couple of members of Mats team and 2 that actually illustrates where in Anchorage we have the highest rates of crashes of all sorts out immobile time of the automobile to pedestrian or bicyclist. And there's an associate a table with that map that really sort of tells the story of of road safety and encourage so for those of you who have been tracking pedestrian fatalities and injuries, that might be something of interest to you. If you Google him at a and ATS Anchorage at you wrong. Get right to the page. believe the Mac and the table will be available sometime later this week, if not early next. There's a wonderful team of folks working on making sure that map is publicly available. So if you would like a little insight, please feel free to take a look. There. Additionally, we have we hold at held a work session yesterday which dealing with an evolving disagreement about between the State Department of Transportation and the municipality. With respect to the authority of and that's over state projects. And you'll likely be hearing more about that, that that that work session at the video. If you're interested in taking a look is available online as well. So for those of you who are transportation nerds and you'd like to understand what's going on, please feel free access that also on the and that's that's Thank you so much. Thank you. Miss Potter and Mr. Jones. Yeah, I think Mister Chair, the Infrastructure Enterprise and Utility Oversight Committee had a very busy meeting on August, 21st. So try to move fast. >> On the part of Alaska Modernization Project, we got update relating to the sprung structure. They'll be an invitation to bid for the foundation and construction work anticipation or taking place next year. They're also working on a 5 year plan to replace defenders. Those are the questions that go between the cargo terminals and the vessels there's work happening on a cargo terminal. Transportation optimization study. This is how the vehicles that move goods off the ships and around how they move about the port. For to. That's the second petroleum terminal was built in 1980's. And we're finding that is deteriorating faster than expected. So looking at options to keep it operational. Also coming for the assembly in our next meeting of September will be the design contract for cargo terminal. 2. Are leaving the EU. The part of Alaska surcharge. This is how the most politics funds much of the work for the partners. Ation we have a preview of the anticipated surcharge for 2026. We anticipate it will go up some in terms what that means for actual commodity prices should be in the neighborhood of $0.03 for a gallon of milk. 16 for a sheet of plywood or $20 for a pickup truck. From solid waste services. They're in the process of upgrading their software, which is not been done since 2014. So certainly needed the should improve customer service. I think it should provide a better user portal. Also offer fleet telematics floor. Most of us trucks AI analysis of the waste going into the trucks other benefits that nature. And finally from the Alaska water and wastewater utility have on several projects replacing damaged pipe around. Forgot. We have built a Ting a pump station. Number 2, some fixes to their King Street feel campus. And a few other items but also leave it there. Thank you. Mr. Johnson, this problem. >> Thanks. Couple reports first for the Budget and Finance Committee of the Committee met on Thursday August 21st, we heard our usual budget to actuals updates looking at where we are in the year and continued discussion of a draft resolution of the fiscal year, 26 budget priorities and just a heads up to members. I would expect you'll see that on the agenda for September nights. The next meeting is Thursday, September 18th and in City Hall room one, 55. Second all give just a very brief update as an it as one of our Alaskan Municipal League liaisons leave the rest of that to Mr. Rivera. But just to say there's an item tonight in our agenda that we will not be pulling in reading, but it celebrates the 75th anniversary of the Alaska Municipal League. The league is working to get at least 75 resolutions from member communities. So we're doing a little bit earlier, but just to say. Most of the celebration will take place in Anchorage in December at the annual conference. So stay tuned for more information. And I would definitely invite members of the public as well as members of the assembly from the administration to attend the conference in December. Lastly, from the National League of Cities I serve on the energy Environment and Natural Resources Committee and went to a conference in Columbus, Ohio last month. Part of the function of committees is to prepare policy resolutions. And so this committee he's working on updating a number of resolutions that go to the full membership of Nlc to adopt in the fall at the city summit. Another one that we're working on it in draft form is really the importance of critical science, science and data monitoring such as weather data and its importance to communities, particularly in the times of natural disaster. So working with the group to move that one through the committee process so will will see more in the fall. And again, that's one of the ways that the National League of Cities sets its federal advocacy priorities on behalf of cities, towns and villages. Thanks. >> Thanks for their going. Thank you, Mister Chair. And I just want to put fine point on. Member Baldwin days report maps and the work session that we had yesterday. She presented that very diplomatically. I'm going to be a little more spicy the work session was quite revealing I highly encourage my colleagues to go back and please review it. There is a substantial different center of interpretation. Who has authority over national highway systems projects and encourage. Alaska DOT Npf is asserting that they alone have unilateral authority over those projects. Even the ones that are within maps boundary that they control the funding the time and the scope of those projects. And maps, which includes designate the mayor. To assembly members who are appointed by the chair. He doesn't need from dot and a designee from Department of Environmental Conservation. It's a five-member voting board. They are saying that that voting board called the Policy Committee does not have any authority to alter the scope or the timing of NHS projects. So there's major issue of local control in that work session. We heard clearly from Federal Highway Authority representatives were present that they do not share DOT, interpretation, but instead they are aligned with the Peter, but Haitian of a municipality that is the mpo be has authority over those projects that are within our boundary DOT is also trying to assert that that we need to open up the operating agreement in order to change our boundary, the Federal Highway Authority we heard in the work session does not agree with them on that either. Have been allusions to him. Wanting to make efforts potentially to change the composition of the policy committee. So that potentially the governor would be able to appoint more seats on the policy committee. So there are major things at play right now. And I think I guess what I hope is that that conversation can continue to work through mats process, but also that at some point, Mister Chair, we may want to have an executive session on that. So all the colleagues can be briefed by our municipal attorneys. Thank you, Mister Chair. Just provide a brief note that we are aiming to have a. >> special meeting arm. September 12th to do legal briefings. And so I would recommend coordinating with municipal attorney to ensure they're prepared for that briefing. So you'll see that notice go up pretty soon. And also I would be remiss if I didn't, quote predecessor, Hu label dot, quote, the most mature bureaucracy in the state of Alaska. >> Nothing to report. Thank you. >> Thank you. Mister Chair. The next meeting of the Quality Municipal Services and Ethics and Elections Committee. We'll be meeting will be tomorrow Wednesday, August 27th from 12 noon to 01:00PM at City Hall Room. One 55, they are 2 items on the agenda. overview 2025 dash 91 dealing with public notice and the discussion on language access for elections. There will be a meeting of the municipal on committee Thursday, September 4th from 11:30AM, to 12:30PM, at City Hall. Room. One 55. Our only agenda item will be to review the 2023 Act for. That's the annual comprehensive financial review to that major audit, which was issued on August. 15th, congratulations to the team getting to this point. All are welcome at either meeting. Last a quick liaison report, 60 to 70 administrators managers mayors and Assembly and council members gathered a couple weeks ago in chaotic for the 2025 Alaska Municipal League Summer legislative conference. Although some of the plan discussions didn't occur because of canceled flights due to volcanic ash, who made it and were able to have some really thoughtful discussions about the fiscal and policy future of our state with topics ranging from education to dot. Yes, we are not the only community that has issues with dot. As I understand fast, which I think is what the mpo in Fairbanks is called. They're also dealing with a hostile takeover. 2 federal uncertainty. It was a great convening. The only put out there is that I hope that more assembly members able to make it to future convenience. Other communities make it a point of pride to send large contingents to these conferences. I'm pretty sure that half of the General Assembly was there so they could have probably had a meeting of the General Assembly energy advocate. They wanted to. They do notice when anchors doesn't show up to these things. That's it. Thank you. Mister Chair. Thank you, Mister, Nothing report. Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Mr. Mr. President, thank you, Chair. glad you had an opportunity to meet to visit my home community. But out of it. >> I have 2 updates today. One is review of the last I simply public Health and Safety Committee. Just a few things to go over. There was an update from the Office of Emergency Management reviewing the emergency public information warning system. What was really helpful. We also got an update on the Golden lion and the RFP that's gone out to hire a new behavioral health specialist organization to to be there and places as well. We got an update from the Anchorage Police Department on their technology advancements and other other updates there. The the other update I want to give is on the assembly, Housing and Homeless Committee. We had an update from the year and emergency cold weather shelter are asked, which is the organization that that that really monitors that for us. It was very positive and demonstrated that the level of coordination and collaboration and communication providers within our city has drastically improved over last year. Also, there was an update from the administration on year-round shelter efforts. They reported on the new location out in East 5th Avenue and we had a robust a discussion about that. Looking forward to see how that evolves as well a discussion on camp cleanup and abatements and some of the updates and where we are without. And finally, there was an update on the emergency rental assistance. So if you were not able to attend that meeting, I encourage you to go back and listen to it. There was a lot of really helpful information there. And finally, upcoming is the Housing and Homeless Committee meeting which is going to be on September 17th. So you can join us there. Thanks. Thank you, Mister President. >> And that now brings us to the addendum to the agenda for gets the denim are going to go ahead and address late on the table item such corporate any laid on the table items. We have a couple tonight. So are a few should say. We have one of them, a supplemental. One of them is for introduction and one of them will require a vote. So I'll start with the supplemental item, which is 10 G simply memorandum. And a number 2025 to ordinance number 2025, Dash 96 Norton Stakes Assembly. Submitting to the qualified voters. The municipality of Anchorage about Proposition amending the home rule charter to authorize one percent sales tax to fund the quote, penny for progress can best month program. So that item is. on the table next. We'll go ahead and take up. The item needs mover. A second and a 3rd. It's item 10 G 8, which is 2025. And number city Anchorage assembly submitting to qualified voters missed part of Anchorage about Proposition amending the home rule charter to authorize a tax on short-term rentals. Move to introduce in separate public hearing on September 23rd. >> Second 3rd. All right. So we have a motion to introduce sunset public hearing for 23rd of September by Mr. Vaughan seconded by as broadly and 3rd by a small today. Takes care of that item. Next. We have the final on the table item which is 10 before resolution R 2025. number resolution of the Something proposing formula for allocating a portion of the municipal room tax dedicated to the promotion of tourism industry to a designated tourism promotion non profit. This item will require a supermajority vote to be laid on the table for laid on the table procedures, Mr. Brown moved to lay on the table second, Mr. Probably moves Mr. Van seconds. Speak to her >> Yeah. Just very briefly. Then I'm sure Constand can add this item is really attempting to speak to the ongoing contract negotiations regarding use of a portion of the bed tax for tourism promotion. And so the idea that that believe needs to. there's critical piece of it that happens on September. 1st. And so our next meeting is not until September 9th. And so we wanted to make sure to get this in the record so that it can be part of that discussion. >> And I will just add we're not asking the members to pass this tonight intend if the members a lot on the agenda to pull it. But it then becomes subject to the conversation happening between the parties as they move to the negotiations this week. And next week. It's tricky I can see Mister Bear thinking so it's time sensitive that this enters the realm of the communication as to why. And Mr. Johnson. Thanks again. Some also trying to wrap my head around this. So as understand it. >> introduce it will be cold and then. The intention is put on the agenda for next meeting for action on it. And just say briefly that and that that's unusual in the sense that the intent is to get this into the room with administration and the >> as they're making discussions happened this week. And so our next system next week before we meet on the night. I mean, I it seems as hardy out there right in the public and visible. >> I think most members who are familiar with my feelings about the use of the late on the table procedure and I don't love it. But I guess understand the the intent here and perhaps we can make an exception. But I would have felt much better if this a gun through the regular channels. >> Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Chair. So can you describe to the parties will be who are in this negotiation? Bill Falls in the current vendor who is receiving performing the duties so that. >> I have a question for Mr. Follows a which will your response will determine whether I support lane this item on the table or not. And that question is, will you make it clear that this resolution has not been voted on by the assembly and does not represent the voice of the assembly. Has that would reflect its current status? Yes. Then then in circumstance where that will be made clear, I suppose I could support insight on that. Thank you. formed. >> Yeah, I think it's interesting. To contemplate indicating our support for a negotiations process when the assembly hasn't formally spoken as a body. And I feel a little bit of discomfort with that. I'm on the second on this. But wanted to have a discussion is it not possible? To have introduced a separate public hearing on there's no public hearing required. And that's not the point. I Maybe speak to. Yeah, It's so critical that and so the conclusion of the negotiations, what happened before the next meeting? It's just. >> Putting a framework out so that all the parties know there is a conversation happening publicly and that this is the framework that's been worked out by number of members in the conversation. And we do intend to seek your support for this or an amended version. But we also want to make sure it is on the table in the conversation that they're having. That's really the just. Getting in on the table. Not concluding It's probably answer. >> Yeah. And I just add very clearly that this essentially a proposed negotiating point. It is not simply stating support for the negotiations. Those are going to happen regardless. so this is proposing a more formal statement on policy. >> Now, add one last If you have the opportunity, which you it does not set. This is our rule. It says we provide some guidance to the administration and allows them 2 make decisions on how to frame the policy. And so that's part of the discussion will have in the upcoming. Was not set out as a black and white. This is what it shall be. It is set up as just guidance. Mr. President. >> Thank you. want to just voiced my concern my concern is not about the merits of this. that concern about process. And I and I I I don't agree that that it's healthy process lay something on the table to indicate potential support when we haven't had an opportunity to to to to debate it, it seems disingenuous. So unfortunately, I will be a no one laid on the table. Thanks. Thank you, everybody. Go ahead. If there's no one members see the vote. Item failed to be laid on the table. He'll be back before us the next meeting. Any pleas prepare that for introduction? Mr. Gates. So that concludes part. I'd like to go ahead and ask for a motion to incorporate the denim. As printed and distributed the laid on the table items so much second. All right, sir, motion to incorporate has been made by probably seconded by Mister Bond. His question. Like to ask unanimous consent, seeing hearing non-members. That item has been incorporated. So next we don't we have appearance to question the agenda. We don't have anyone signed up tonight. So that brings us to the consent agenda will go ahead and go down the diocese. Pulled items. Start with you, Mr. President, thank you. Chair. No items tonight. Kercher, 10 Delta, 10. Mr. Rivera, thank you, Mr. Chair 10, a 6. Today, 6 silvers. >> 10, a 3. Mr. Bolland. No items. Thank you, Mr. Chair was probably. Thank you. At 10, a 7 for reading and then 3 items on behalf of the administration or the request of the administration. >> 10 D 8, 10 D 16 and taint time 10 D 18. >> All dealt All right. Thank That's 10. A 7.10 The 8 and the 16 2018. Mr. Johnson. >> I think Chair 10, a 4.10 G 2. >> 10, a 4.10 G. 2. Do you have as you try to change the date on that one or some other from can change that? What do we do like second meeting in September? The when E? So I direct the clerk to take care of have to pull the item. All right. If if that changes been made, I think that we've made this statement publicly, then, yes >> do not need pull that out All right. Thank you. As well. Today. >> Now for chair, thank you. Thank you. Miss Martinez chair was 10, a one pulled not yet. I was requested the pull of presentation. 10:00AM pulled by Mr. Martinez. And Mr. Mccormick, 10 outfit too. So we have to pull twice. Martinez just pulled sure. Got it. Okay. Okay. So 10, a one as Martina Sunday to Mr. Ok, is that everything folks? I'm going read the list. Martinez, to this record 10, a 3 months Overs for Mister Johnson. We're not pulling 10 a 5.10, a 6. Mister Rivera. 27 was probably. Then we have 10 D 8 program have to administration. The 10 by Miss Kercher. 10 D 16 is have to Ministration 10 18 was probably on behalf ministrations and I missing. Ten-day. Some of us must right. Seeing hearing none. go ahead and ask for a motion to approve the consent agenda. Minus the pulled item summit. Second. Moved from Richmond to second. Spoke and spoke thanks. I heard ace and hear from Motion to approve strong second by miss polling day. Any discussion. Seeing hearing like to ask unanimous consent. Any objection to the motion? no objection. consent agenda has been passed. Minus the pulled items that brings us now to item 10, a one. Anyone's resolution or 2025 dash. 2.48 Resolution of the Anchorage municipal, somebody recognizing and honoring George told her first 24 years of service with E municipality of Anchorage. This item was pulled by MR. T S. Move to approve. Move Centers segment was probably like to ask unanimous consent. Any objection? Seeing hearing no objection items passed will go ahead and whose reading Mr. who's presenting Mr. Tennis Comfort father. Where S? Jorge Felder was hired as an employee of the Municipality of Anchorage in October of 2000. >> And whereas he was a dedicated associate librarian, an information specialist, at least Zach Library in the adult services division from November 2003 until his retirement on June. 30th 2025. and whereas he was awarded the municipality's Individual welcoming workplace award in 2021 for his continued efforts to make his colleagues feel not just welcome the work but recognized included and supported at the library. And whereas he's caring and patient attention to a pl patrons in Anchorage, residents as individuals with diverse and varied needs is unparalleled now. Therefore, Anchorage Assembly recognizes and honors George Felder for 24 years of dedicated service to the municipality of Anchorage, Anchorage Assembly and the community. If you'd like to come forward, you can say some words. The microphone just hit like button there. There's a here. Hold on. >> First thank God that I had the opportunity to live. Secondly, I did in the last 13 years in the military, United States Air Force here in Alaska. I've been able to go to the most remote sites a lot of different things. My primary. Gratitude is I was raised by my mother to serve my community. And regardless of anything else, I have tried to do my best. To be there for it. Makes everything Bess for everyone. I thank you for your service. I thank you for the opportunity to come here and say something. But more than anything else. Police. These continue to work. To take care of this unique, amazing state. The municipality workers here at this library to help a lot of people, 8 tons of research. Somebody let them know. They appreciate it. These are great people. I thank you all that lets you in the name of the Lord. Jesus. And I'll be around. Because I'm covering for us. 6 pastor and his wife. I hope to Sunday established a ministry for visitation to those people that are shut in. If you know any avenues to get something like this started, let me know, because I'm ready to roll. My wife is tar to me being home right next. We haven't any to resolution. 2025 dash to 53. >> Resolutions somebody recognizing Anchorage, water and wastewater utility for 2024 National Association of Clean Water Agencies, Peak Performance Awards. This item was pulled them a Move to approve second moved by requirement. Seconded by Mister Kercher. like to consensus. Any objection. None item has been adopted unanimously. Who is reading his presenting. I'm reading group is reading triggers presenting welcome. >> All right. Whereas Wat water and wastewater utilities, 3 wastewater treatment facilities were recognized for excellence environmental treatment services during 2024. and a word National Association of Clean Water Agencies. Peak Performance Awards for outstanding compliance with their National Pollutant discharge Elimination System and Alaska Pollutant discharge Elimination system permits. And whereas the Wastewater Treatment Facility serves the Anchorage Bowl and received a Gold award in 2024. for 100%. Perfect permit compliance for 0 permit violations. And whereas the Yue River Wastewater Treatment facility serves Anchorage's northern communities and received a Gold award in 2024. For 100% compliance for 0 permit violations. And whereas the Girdwood Wastewater Treatment facility serves the girdwood area and received a Silver Award in 2024. for having less than 5 violations with its permit. And whereas these outstanding levels of service are only possible with the professional staff at each facility dedicated to operational excellence for which the aww board of directors has unanimously congratulate their efforts. And whereas the utility continues to invest to protect the health and welfare of the public and the environment by providing responsible water and wastewater services today in long into the future. Now, therefore, the Anchorage Municipal Assembly here by results that encourage water and wastewater utility is recognized for receiving these prestigious peak performance awards for excellence in the delivery of wastewater treatment services to the citizens of the Municipality of Anchorage and for advancing a new standard of excellence. Hausner prueba think just some of them is 26 day of August 2025. >> Thank you. Threw the chair David person. You're general manager, increased water wastewater utility. It's really an honor receive his award on behalf of the utility. But it's really on behalf of are 285 professional staff that work. 24 7, 365 to make sure these plants operated there performance and that we get these awards. So again, it's it's really a dedication of our staff. And it's thanks to the support of assembly as well as administration. Thank you. Right next, we have item 10, a 3 which is resolution or 2025, dash 2.55 resolution of Anchorage municipal. Somebody recognizes obviously 6. >> 2025 as women's Equality day and celebrating the ratification of the 19th Amendment. And recognizing women who are continuing the fight for equality. This item was pulled by customers. >> Whereas that matters motion to approve of motion to approve second moved by muscle hers. ball game was moment seconded. Okay. So I'd like to ask unanimous consent Sunday actions. Here you see objectionable been adopted unanimously missile years whose reading and he's presenting. I'm reading someone here to see that. All right. go ahead. >> Whereas the passage of the 19th Amendment prohibited the states and federal government from denying the right to vote to citizens of the United States on the basis of gender. It was officially ratified on 8/18/1920, after nearly a century of protest. And whereas August 26 was designated as women's Equity Day by resolution introduced by Congresswoman Bella battling Bella. Abzug in 1973 to commemorate the years of sacrifice, hard work and perseverance women in the United States endured leading to the ratification of the 19th amendment and whereas women have continued to organize to exercise their rights and from the National American Woman Suffrage Association came the League of Women voters that is still impacting election turnout and facilitating voter education. And whereas in Twenty-twenty, Austin Quinn, Davidson was appointed acting mayor from October through June 2021. Becoming Anchorage's first woman mayor and on May 31st 2024. Suzanne LaFrance was the first woman elected as mayor of Anchorage. And whereas in 2022 Mary Peltola made history as the first Alaska native woman elected to Congress and the first woman to represent Alaska in the House. And today. 21 one women serve in the 40 member Alaska House making it the first time either the state House or Senate will be a majority woman. And whereas despite these successes guaranteeing women's rights continues to be an issue with women facing professional challenges, domestic violence and other obstacles to their well-being and success. While we acknowledge that progress that has been made, encourage Anchorage to keep supporting its female constituents by remaining dedicated to furthering gender equality. Now, therefore, the Anchorage Assembly celebrates Women's Equality Day and pays tribute to women of the past present and future. continue to protest advocate and legislate for women's equal rights and equal treatment. Past and approved by the Anchorage Assembly. This 26th day of August 2025. >> turn the were please take, please state your name for the record and then you all out Penney, Goodstein and with the League of Women voters. Pioneering talker, And we both of the League of Women, Voters Courage and thank you to great day since anniversary of the 19th Amendment and the League of Women Voters, as it said, here is an offshoot of the suffrage movement and also the Anchorage chapter of the League of Women. Voters is 75 years old this year. >> I'll be brief. I'll just say that I've only been a member of the league for a few months, but many of my colleagues have been there for 2030, 50 years. I know they're motivated by sense civil service and a love for Anchorage. So thank you for recognizing them. And I know that they thank you to >> We have had plant over. There has been a member for a long time >> Mr. Bolland. Yeah. Thank you I just always when we do this every year, take a moment to acknowledge our women colleagues who serve alongside of us and doing a credible job. So member Silvers member Prolly member ball today. Thank you for serving with us. And then of course, our awesome clerk, Jamie Hines and her team and author of the Women that on that team. Thank you for all that you do to support the assembly and really, too, make the municipality a better place. >> And would be remiss not to also mention that municipal attorney Gardner, the municipal manager. was this when Pearson as well as our Mayor France. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair of my former Midtown colleague What always made it a point during this resolution encourage more women run for office because it would be great if at some point this body was majority want I don't think it's ever been. We got close a few years ago. But just want to do that right now since we have this resolution before us. Thank you. election is coming okay. Next. We have item >> 4. for resolution. Our 2025 dash 2.56, a resolution, the increased missile, somebody honoring Steve a buffet for his nearly 2 decades of service and leadership to the municipality of Anchorage and on your own part of Alaska. This item was pulled by Mr. Johnson move to approve second move, Mr. Johnson's seconded by MS, Balding day like to ask unanimous consent. there any objection to the motion? Seen here? In objection, the motion is adopted unanimously ice who's reading he's presenting. I'm reading spot of the floor. Thank you. >> Whereas Steve, serve the municipality of Anchorage with distinction since 2007 0st as deputy director. And later as director of the Port of Alaska. And whereas Steve stood watch at the port through 3 name changes and 7 mayoral administrations providing consistent professional leadership through periods of significant change and challenge. And whereas Steve helped ensure uninterrupted port operations during the magnitude 7.1 earthquake in 2018 and its thousands of aftershocks as well as throughout the unprecedented disruptions of the COVID COVID-19 global pandemic. Keeping Alaska supply chain stable and secure when it was needed. Most. Whereas under Steve's leadership, part of Alaska has remained a vital hub of commerce, supporting 90% of the goods for 85% of Alaska's population and ensuring consistent operations. Despite the challenges of aging infrastructure, seismic activity and global supply chain disruptions. And whereas Steve's work to advance the port of Alaska Modernization Project or the PAP complex and Essential Infrastructure initiative that aims to ensure long-term resilience and supports economic security for the entire state will benefit generations of Alaskans to come. And whereas Steve brought to the port over 30 years of distinguished service in the United States Air Force retiring at the rank of colonel and applying his expertise in logistics operations and strategic management to the benefit of Alaska's critical supply chains. And whereas his collaborative spirit, tireless work ethic, an unwavering commitment to public service have earned him deep respect from his colleagues, port tenants and community partners alike. Now, therefore, the Anchorage Assembly extends its deepest gratitude to Steve for his years of leadership at Don Young port of Alaska and wishes him all the best in retirement passed and approved by the Anchorage Assembly. This 26 day of August 2025. Mr. Bo fo. I've been trained on this. >> Imagine my relief to find out that the band was not for me. >> But I do want to say thank you. Want to say thank you very much for for this recognition, albeit Undeserved. But appreciated very much. Nonetheless. But I especially want to say thank you for. >> Allowing me to. >> From the port for. all over almost 18 years. It's a it's important job. and I couldn't be more grateful for the opportunity that all the assembly's over the course of that time and all administrations over course that time what me go ahead and continue to do in spite of challenging it is. Sometimes you get along with me, but it's appreciated very much. I especially want to say thank you for the incredible staff that the port is had it over all those years. You and what you work with them every day. You really don't have an appreciation for just how smart dedicated they are. And your port is in very good hands. and I always knowing that. And wishing everybody all the best for the future. So thank you very much for this. I will. I will cherish it for. The rest of my days. >> All right. Next on the agenda, we have item 10, a 6 resolution era 2025 dash to 59 a resolution of the Anchorage Municipal Assembly. Recognizing September is Hunger Action Month and supporting the elimination of hunger in Anchorage. This item was pulled by Mr. move to approve. So motion to approve. Biden's Rivera by beyond. I'd like to ask unanimous consent Senate junction of the adoption of the motion. Seeing hearing no objection. It was passed unanimously who is reading and he's presenting Mr. President is presenting. And I'm reading yes, welcome. Thank you. Mister Chair resolution of the Anchorage Municipal Assembly, recognizing in September as Hunger Action Month and supporting the elimination of hunger in Anchorage whereas September is designated as Hunger Action Month across the United States. And whereas in Anchorage, there are roughly 36,740 food insecure people, including more than 10,000 children. And whereas include just committed to raising awareness about the need to combat hunger and every part of a city and provide additional resources that citizens need and whereas Anchorage has a strong anti Hunger network comprised of food industry, faith-based tribal, public and nonprofit organizations committed to addressing hunger. And whereas the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program Snap serves as the most effective program fighting hunger in the United States providing an important resource to food, insecure individuals. And whereas the United States Congress passed a budget reconciliation bill and acting 187 billion in cuts to snap over the next 10 years, which is expected to raise costs, increase poverty and reduce food assistance for thousands of Alaskans. And whereas demand at Food Bank of Alaska's network of food pantries across the state continues to rise. And whereas food insecurity in Alaska has been further compromise by rapidly rising costs and a decline in our fisheries there for. The Anchorage Assembly results. September is Hunger Action Month and encourages all citizens to give their time and financial resources to the Food Bank of Alaska, where other entities in Anchorage is anti 100 network to help our neighbors in need. There's a solution be effective immediately upon passage and approved the assembly passed a prude. But they could to somebody that's 26th Day August 2025. Welcome turn the mic on and then you have the floor. Please state your name. >> Mister Chair members of the Assembly. My name is Grace moment on the advocacy manager at Food Bank of Alaska. Thank you for the opportunity to recognize September as Hunger Action Month. This is a month about activating our community, whether you're an individual, a business and organization, our local body of government, your voice and your action matters. When we work together, we can make sure that every Alaskan has the food they need to thrive. Thank you. Thank you. >> So the next item is kind of the big item item 10, a 7 resolution, 2025 dash to 58 resolution. Think or just somebody celebrating the 50th anniversary of the unification. The city bankers, the Greater Anchorage Area Bureau and honoring the golden anniversary, the municipality of Anchorage. This item was pulled by problem. to prove second motion to approve Imus, probably second. My Mister Conte. Like to ask unanimous consent. But first, I'll say we have a band here who are going to invites to perform a Mr. Peterson, I tried to get the memo to you to bring your guitar and so will have the ban and then we'll do the reading an invite members up to be part of the conversation. So if I'd like to ask unanimous consent agenda injection to the motion. Seeing hearing objection item has been approved unanimously. Well, come forward, please. >> tickets. 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Yeah. >> So next before we read, I'd like to ask all the farmers, some of the members and former municipal staff and anyone else's member of the municipality come forward. We're going to read this next resolution and honor all of you. so please come forward. Miss brawl. You'll be reading someone's presenting. As Baldwin Day. The stack it. And for those who would like a copy of the resolution will make sure to generate one for you. All right, Mr. Brown. >> Yes, thank you. And for those who are interested in being in a photo, I think we're going to take a break after this into a big group phone as well. So please stick around. With that. I will read hard act to follow with music. So a resolution of the Anchorage Municipal Assembly recognize sorry, a new robot celebrating the 50th anniversary of the unification of the city of Anchorage and the Greater encourage area Bureau and honoring the golden anniversary of the municipality of Anchorage, whereas on September 16th 1975 following a special election approving the merger of the city of Anchorage and the Greater Anchorage Area Bureau. The newly unified municipality of Anchorage was officially established. And whereas prior to unification from 1964, to 1975, the city and borough operated. A separate governments often was overlapping. And at times conflicting responsibilities resulting in confusion and inefficiencies in essential services like police, zoning and building codes and whereas unified municipal governments address some of those challenges by consolidating authority under a streamlined home rule municipality encompassing 1961 square Miles. And today representing more than 40% of Alaska's population. As the unification of the city of Anchorage and the Greater Anchorage Area Bureau was accompanied by voter approval of municipalities. First charter is foundational government governing document and the inclusion of a municipal bill of rights affirming the values of Representative Democracy, citizen participation and local self-governance that continue to guide. Encourage today, whereas leaders navigated the transition from dual governance to a strong mayor unified system in the establishment of community councils, which fostered local engagement across neighborhoods, ensuring voices from including a should you back in Eagle River down to girdwood in Turnagain arm continue to shape the municipality of Anchorage is future. And whereas for 5 decades leaders have recognized the governing a community made of many communities calls for navigating ongoing tensions and carefully balancing diverse interests. And whereas the municipality now celebrates Emma Way 50 a commemoration of the past 50 years, including a kickoff event on Friday, September 5th community partner, events throughout the fall story neighborhood still storytelling features a scavenger hunt game to highlight community hidden gems and a neighborhood time machine of historical installation maps across town. And whereas the Assembly's Legislative Services Office has created www dot Muni Dot Org Slash 50 number 5, 0, as the central hub for information about the 50th anniversary featuring historical events and starting this historical resources event, details community stories and opportunities for residents to participate and celebrating encourages golden anniversary. And whereas the municipality in partnership with the Anchorage Parks Foundation recognizing that it sits on the traditional homelands of the denied Athabascan people commission. Sebastian Garber, a local DA 9 artist to develop 50th anniversary artwork grounded in our history and motivated by our future. The design features a minimalist icon drive from the municipal seal against a bright civic blue. Celebrating Anchorage is rich heritage and reflecting gratitude for the past present and future indigenous stewardship of this place. And with the anchors Parks Foundation incorporating the artwork into its indigenous place, names and Wayfinding project to further honor and shared his heritage. Now, therefore, the Anchorage Assembly resolve. And there's a few section one that the municipality of Anchorage proclaims September 16th 2025. as the official 50th anniversary of unification honoring the spirit of cooperation, resilience and vision that created our unified local government section 2 celebrate the ridging history of Anchorage from its roots as a bountiful, indigenous homeland to aid in dynamic home municipality Emily, 50 will acknowledge the individuals and civic innovations that have helped shape our shared legacy, including 1975 charter commissioners Jane Anvik, Lisa Parker and Joe Josephson, former assembly members, former Anchorage mayors, the native village of Eklutna and the public servants who have worked for and with municipality over the last 5 decades, Section 3 to encourage all residents to participate. And Emily events kicking off September 5th and continuing through November, including the night market. Local storytelling scavenger hunt, nerd Nite in neighborhood time machine installations and to contribute personal and community histories to commemorate where we've come from and where we're headed. Section 4 that we can that we look forward with optimism, welcoming bold ideas for the future, strengthen community bonds and inclusive civic engagement that builds on the last 50 years of government and looks forward to to a bright next half century for the amendment language pass and approved by the assembly. This 26 day of August 2020. 25. All right. So >> I if you are all representative of anyone like us that you could probably felt several minutes at the mike. But I I would like to invite you to come forward and make short comments about the past present or the future of the municipality. From your perspective, but brief, we don't have 3 minutes each. So we welcome you all, though. And there is a microphone. I did. And the others a The area Heather fun. >> It's been more than 30 years since I sat and sheet, I would like to acknowledge. The best training I've got for sitting in seat came from 57 years. Member of the League Women Voters. That's the training I would also like to acknowledge and thank my son Patrick and his sister. Lucy for tolerating the time that I spent at this table. >> I'm Nicole Bell, former Youth Assembly rep. I just want to say thank you all for your continued service. Anchorage has a bright future with you all here, caring for the community. So thank you. >> Jim Cuba says my name spent to 2 terms on the assembly, 6 and a half years. Yes, I was part of the group that change the election from from October to April. That's whether an extra 6 months there. But up. do have to say that us John Aspen was brought up tonight. My best friend growing up and spin was David ask when his son and I grew up in Aspen family when he became So I knew a lot about them. I was going to high school back in those states. But I'm going admit in front of all you. That I voted against unification. >> I cannot tell a lie U.S. 400 people really didn't weren't sure. We want to be part of downtown second stays put. I think it turned out okay. I have a lot of lot of stories I could tell, but I enjoyed time on December. One lady used to call me all. Tell quick stress, hold this. Older ladies to comment. ask me questions about gender. What's going on? I was very open weather So appreciative all the information I give that I left this. And she called me one markets have a question. I I'm sorry, but I'm not on the way which is why know that? Well, as ask you when I really need to know something. What is that uses? Tomorrow? Tomorrow we're going to change our clocks because of Daylight Savings. Time move the clock forward. Erdogan moving backwards. I love that story because that's what being a good assemblymembers as us having relationships with people depend on you like. >> Hello, it's been a while since I've been up here, but it was an honor to be the first youth representative up here. And it's so great to see so many people who supported me during my time as the youth representative. Now on the dais next or I would see did so. Thank you guys. >> Well, good evening. It's been a little over 2 years since I set one of those chairs and I don't miss it a bit. But I do want to thank and thank the band. I know how much work it is to come and set up and play just one song. So I think with another round of applause for the bandits, who would be a good idea? John battle tenant has been that long it up there. But I memory fades out a member of the music. But it's it's awesome. >> So, you know, I've said many, many times people because they think has the city as one unified government and let everything applies to everywhere. Top to bottom. And said, no, we're not so much a city as we are conglomeration of service areas and that really describes more. But we are in this incredible hassle sometimes but also makes us a very special city. Toby stay somewhat that way for a long time. Thanks anyone else. It started >> thank you all for your continued service. It's fitting on here today while we're celebrating women in leadership my daughter just graduated from college. She went outside and I thought we might loser. But actually tonight she's flying out to get all stuff and come back up to Anchorage because she got a job locally. And that is exactly what I wanted. When I decided to my name in the hat, she served. I was not elected, but honestly, I I was humbled by my time letting my daughter know that she had a place here in leadership in Anchorage precisely why. I think she's coming back. So thank you for your continued leadership. Last and least time. Patrick Flynn. >> And I'll just be brief hearing. You guys talk about him. That's >> I will quote. I will quote the the action Mark Twain didn't say, but should have said history does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme. Mr. Cross and you want to take the mic. Okay. Well, thank you all. And I'm going to defer now to the vice chair. Just brief update on some of the events and opportunities because this is just the kickoff. We hope to see more of you over the next several weeks as we move towards the 50th. That's right. >> Yeah, thank you. And if you're listening carefully to the resolution, this will be a little bit of a repeat. But I encourage everybody to grab one of these cards. I see there's some right there. believe there's some in the lobby and will make amply available. They have not only some information about the 50 S and the website, but on the back fields of an events calendar. So I'm not gonna read everything on here, but I will give some highlights. One is the Friday September 5th Night Market. We will see our great band performing there is he said during his remarks and also just really celebrating that time downtown and towns where so common will be fun, bring your families. So that is next Friday from 05:00PM to 08:00PM Friday, the 5th. So not Labor Day weekend. But after that and then there's been a number of other ones on here. I'm just gonna highlight a couple. One is actually on the 6 teens on the anniversary. There is the body Sosa Tuesday night. Fun run. So for those who want to do that watch other folks running, it's over Goose Lake Park 05:00PM to 07:00PM. And I believe the mayor will be speaking at that event. Another one that's exciting that our community councils folks down in Girdwood and others have been organizing is a neighborhood flicks fest. So they'll be some movies you can watch outside. That is Thursday, September 25th from 6 to 08:30PM. It's not in one location, but the Re multiple locations. So check the website for one that's close to you. And then I will keep going down and all safe. One of our biggest events is going to actually be in November. So it's Friday. November 7 also on first Friday at the Anchorage Museum. That will be a really fun exhibit focused on the municipality. We'll bring a lot of really great leaders, info dignitaries from the city's past. Please spread the word if you're in touch with former members, other former mayors, all everybody who would want to show up. We'll have a lot of fun there. That will be 06:00PM to 09:00PM again, Friday, November 7th. So mark your calendars for that. And then lastly, I'll just the neighborhood time machine. I'm really excited if you're in a public building in the near future, you will see some apps on the ground. So it'll be a map from a different decade, depending on what part of town it is and and really show you kind of what that neighborhood looked like. So you can try to find where your house is or where it was or maybe. But, you know, before it was built. So check those out on the ground or on the floor. And thanks, shout out to Sarletto Services director brought project to fruition. And then lastly, the hidden gems scavenger hunt. So there's still a little time if you want to submit a hidden gem on the website where accepting them through Saturday, August 30th and otherwise will be soon putting out a scavenger hunt for folks we were crowdsourcing kind of the top 10. So you'll be able to go check those out. Have some fun and just really share what's special about the municipality. From your perspective. And I think that's it for now. So just look for these carts. Thanks. >> I will close by offering that we have with us again. plan, this car, some people who serve this municipality long time ago tucked into the audience. There Jacob, various who's actually one of the youth members who is just recently been appointed will have the item before us at our next meeting. And so we have the newest reps as well. So we have the continuum of history before us and we're living it it's an honor to serve. It's our to have you who have served and it's an honor to help us who will serve in the future. Thank you, everybody. So we'll have an opportunity for the ban to break down. Probably just a few minutes. We'll be taking our dinner break. So next item we have is item 10 D 8. 28 is. am 6.38, dash 2025. Recommendation of working on incumbent contract for professional planning services which offer them in a spot of Anchorage. probably. >> Move to postpone to the meeting of September 9th. >> Second motion to postpone them. probably seconded by Mister Fund. Any discussion. I'm just working out some kinks on that one. All right. Any further discussion? Seeing or not? I'd like to ask unanimous consent. Any objection? The motion. Hearing. No objection item is postponed to the meeting of September 9. Next. We have so don't know. It's been an items we previously been asked for the 23rd, but they asked us tonight. next we have item 10 D 10:00AM, 6.41, dash 2025. recommendation of award. The contract quality man's especially vehicles for 2 specialty vehicles. This item was pulled by Mr. move to approve second motion approved by Mr. Barker seconded by us, Mr. Mccormick. >> Yeah, the Center of Be really brief in this. This might be a stupid question, but I'm a politician and that's our before. Questions to the administration replacing 2 current vehicles or says 2 brand new vehicles for bringing online skin. Somebody from the administration coming up. >> Who chaired recurring of have to ask the police chief of police clarifying that if this isn't replacement for existing SWAT vehicles or if this is augmenting our fleet by adding new vehicles. Initials remember asked that question. Chair ever cared for. This is adding 2 new vehicles fleet through a federal Thank you, sir. Any further discussion. none members may proceed to vote. >> On a vote of 11:00AM to 00:00AM 6.41, dash 2025. Is past body item. 10. ♪ And the 16, which is and 6.50, dash 2025 amendment 2 sole source contract with start of free entry services else. Ers for professional third-party oversight of municipality operate emerged to cold weather, shelter, Mr. Brown to prove. second miss. Probably most Mrs seconds approve problem. >> Thank The request was to pull this simply to make an amendment. So I'm going to move a verbal amendment. So on both lines, 3rd is page one lines. 31 36, the end date of this contract is supposed to be 2026. So so changing 2025 to 2026. >> So there's a motion to amendments, problems or second. Second second Rivera. >> Any further, y'all just briefly note that that the intent was always 2026, if you look at the back under the funds patient. Under the front certification and has both here. So this is simply a type. So I would speak briefly to the fact that it is not common practice for the assembly to amend. >> Memoranda of the administration, but the administration has asked us to make this amendment and therefore it is in order. any further discussion. Hearing, none members may pursue a way that's on the amendment. Is there any objection to the amendment? Hearing? objection. The amendment is approved. Now we're back on the main motion as amended any further discussion. none members they proceed to vote. Vote of 11:00AM to 00:00AM 6.50, dash 2025. Us past the body or 6 dash 2025. As amended. X. We have item 10 D 18 to the 18 is am 6.56 Deaths. 2025 recommendation of award contract count. All see for investment consulting and advisory services for the municipality. This item spoke volumes for me. >> Yes, move to postpone to the meeting of September 9th. Second motion to postpone by most probably seconded by MS, Balding day. Any discussion. Parents see like to ask unanimous consent an injection. Of checks on this item is postponed the meeting of September 9th. That takes us through our consent agenda. We will now take our regularly scheduled dinner break was back in just bit. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Is >> We're going start us with 11. A lemonade is somebody memorandum 5.99, dash 2025. and cut water and wastewater utility Board of directors. Appointments. The action was postponed from May 12, 2025. Assuming there's no motion, sir, motion. Moved to Perth. probably most approved second saying Mr. Johnson and discussion. And seeing none members may proceed to vote. record. Here comes charging think Daniel is probably gone for the rest of the evening. So Martinez take a vote on the appointment. Thank vote of 10 to 0. am 5, 9, 9, dash 2025 has passed not move item 12. So folks know that'll be on the agenda next meeting as well. There are some last-minute moves. There's a realignment of certain corners of the boundary structure that we dedicated that will just bring it into conformity with the ports stands in the parks it. So, but we'll take no action on the site. Next up, we have item which 2025 to 73 in ordinance. Take to responsibly many investments because chapter 2 got 30 rules of procedure for some of the clarify the procedures chair granting parents quest make a motion to postpone indefinitely on debatable. It's closed public hearing on agenda items. Public hearings continue from 6.24, 12 public hearing is open again. Anyone to be heard on this item. public hearing this and it's not close with move to approve second move. Rivera saying my husband and day. We'll speak to the item. Speak to Mr. thank Chair. Yeah, just speak briefly. >> So over the years the assembly has passed Brady ordinances. Refining are in internal processes and how we run the meetings. Well, he's going to be fine tuning our process as the body changes best practices evolve, or a new unexpected scenario pops up. I think this ordinance fault in line with that trajectory. There are 2 aspects which in my opinion need for the refining. And this ordinance, I think, are fully addresses both of them. The first is how we deal with a motion to postpone and definitely being used at an assembly meeting before the public hearing. This ordinance streamlines the process and allows the chair to call on the move or to make a quick and debate free ash rationale for the motion for the chair. To call in the main sponsor. The item to make a quick question now against the motion. If they wish the idea being that this type of motion again before the public hearing doesn't sparked a lengthy debate on the Dias without hearing from the public. First, the second item is from the chair dealing with appearance requests and I'm happy to if the chair would like to speak to that one, but it's also pretty easy cleanup items in my opinion, these 2 simple don't hamper on the right to the public nor us as elected officials because we still have other rights available to us. Like the motion to override the ruling of the chair. Thank you. Mark Austin, thank And just to the point on that second part, there's nothing to stop the assembly of member of the public makes a persuasive argument asking to be heard from making opportunity under 2.30, in a motion to suspend the rules to be heard. But what it does do is make sure that we don't get a 13th member who make sure question every meeting which there will have been sometimes when certain members have the public of common made cereal requests. This just closes that gap because we treated as a custom up until now. But decided since this ordinance was coming for us to make it part of the code. members may proceed to vote. vote of 9 to one and a 2025 to 73 passed a body. next, we have 2025 dash 85 and seeing some of the repealing and replacing. must go Section 10 to 15, 3, 7, regarding the bar safety our program to eliminate the application review issuance processes. Also, there is a version that incorporates. Change to Section 10 to 15. Oh, no. And allows the clerk to discontinue. This item. The public hearing was continued for the meaning of a 12 public hearings. Item is now open again. Anyone wish to be heard on side. Seeing hearing it turns funny move to a previous version. Second, probably moved us version. Seconds. Probably. >> Yeah, thank you. So I want to really clearly state this is not change the bar safety. Our the idea that bars are not allowed to serve alcohol after 03:00AM. But there's that that they may remain open until 04:00AM to allow folks to sober up to get a cab so that you don't have a rush of people going outside who are still intoxicated, trying to kind of manage that that issue we've seen downtown and other places. So that s version simply still says the about our safety. Our should exist, but it removes the idea that we would have a registration. So currently there is a permit system. There's only a few, maybe 3, maybe not even that establishments that you use it. But everybody has said that the policy itself has affected. So this simply just removes kind of some red tape. And then also bars found to be violating this? Let's say they're serving until 03:59AM. or otherwise violating these terms and then they would still be subject to a violation and enforcement like any other part of our licenses. And so this doesn't take away the tool. It simply takes away some of the just the hassle and the staff time and all of Reagan that that means while allowing that policy to be in place. Any further discussion. Here and seeing none. >> Members may proceed to vote on the U.S. version. And a vote of 10 to 2025. Dash 85 S has passed the body. sort public hearings and 2025. 49 ordinance. The Anchorage Assembly amending interest because section 21 3 to establish 3. Distinct procedures for amending the comprehensive plan based on proposed amendments, anticipates scope and impact public items >> moved to continue the public hearing and postponed to the meeting of October. 2nd. Sorry, 7th. So the motion is to continue the public hearing to October 2nd, moved by most probably seconded by it's fallen Any further discussion. Go ahead despite yeah, I think just to say I was speaking with member Holland about this ordinance and debating whether to move forward or not. We opted partly because Mr on here currently. >> But also wanting continue the conversation with the planning Department as there is an active comprehensive plan update happening. And so this gets this gives some additional time and also a time to address some of the potential legal issues in here. Thanks. Any further discussion. >> Senior. None members may proceed Motion sports car. In terms the items plus fund to be person. That's 7.14, be 14. Be as 2025 to 78 or nursing or somebody proving the final negotiation execution. The crane, you Scream Inc. Between the municipality of Anchorage, don't import of Alaskan mass navigation company of Alaska LLC, the same terms operation for the cranes located on import of Alaska terminals. And he's license they're in. This public hearings now open? Anyone wish heard? >> Moved to continue the public hearing and postponed the meeting of September 23rd. >> So there's a motion to continue the public hearing to September 23rd is second Second Amendment Rivera. >> I would defer to the administration, but I believe they're still working on terms of this Mr. Pearson. I do the chair to Vice chair rally. That's correct. We would respectfully request that this be continued into the second meeting in timber to allow for the finalization of a few provisions of the agreement that are still we're still working in accordance with some direction from this funny and some dessert of the administration. So thank you very much for that. >> So going ask unanimous consent of the motion to continue the public hearings or action. Seeing no objections, unanimous vote. Next. We have item 14 sea-surface going to my clerk. You know 2025 dash. 88 is an ordinance amending the official zoning map and approve the rezoning. Approximately 2.1 acres from I one light industrial district PDC plant, community Development district per, you know, 2006 dash. 46 S for original Townsite Subdivision block one last one to 5 bucks too. And block 2. Lots, one and 2 to 6. located east of c street, south of West First Avenue, West Grove Street, north of Western Avenue Anchorage, public hearings item is now open. problem. >> Move to continue the public hearing and postponed to the meeting of September 9th. Second. >> So probably has moved to continue the public hearing to the meeting, succumbing 9th seconded by MS Cervera was probably. >> Yeah, thanks. This is also the request of the administration. Just taking a little more time with this item and ability to answer some questions. Thanks. >> any further discussion on the motion. And I'd like to ask unanimous consent of the motion to continue the public hearings. action. Seeing and hearing no objection item has been continued to the meeting of September 9th. 7.14, 2025 Dash 90 nornes encourage municipal assembly to allow onsite consumption of marijuana by smoking or any method and license retailer, Honest Auschwitz with an endorsement can system state law. MC 10, 80 licensing and regulation or on a sandwich and 16. 65 secondhand smoke. ordinance section 14, not 16. 3, 103. On a 5.21 '05, 0, 5, 5, Live in pain. Zoning public hearing this item is now open. And we should be heard. The microphone is off script, but welcome, please State your name up our Turner 3 minutes. Yeah. hit the button to turn the mic. Thank you. Welcome. >> Hello. My name is dawn in slow from South Anchorage. As retired safety and health engineer for 40 years. In a stage, 4 cancer survivor. With the father that's died of lung cancer. I'm really concerned about potential exposure to cancer-causing chemicals. My career was focused on exposure for coworkers and ensuring they were protected and following correct safety procedures to reduce their risks to chemical exposures. It is clinically proven that cigarette in vaping smoke contain cancer-causing chemicals. Secondhand marijuana smoke contains many of the same cancer causing substances and toxic chemicals and secondhand tobacco smoke furthermore. Ventilation systems cannot eliminate health harms from secondhand smoke exposure. So for our families and friends and grandchildren, please do not support this legislation. At the very least, take the time to do more research as to the potential health effects. This ordinance, an urgent delay in the review of this legislation. To spend more time to research and understand the potential health impacts. Thank you so much for the opportunity share my thoughts. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else wish to be heard. Please come forward. You can leave the microphone on. Welcome. Please a part of town you're from. You'll have 3 minutes. >> Good evening. My name is Emma leaning in on the Alaska government relations director for the American Cancer Society. Cancer Action Network. I have just hit my 24 year anniversary in this role, which means that I started working for the cancer society in time to celebrate the one-year anniversary of smoke-free restaurants in Anchorage back in 2001. I just want offer myself as a resource. I a long history working on this issue and working through all that various iterations so happy to be a resource and want to get more of your time. I urge are going look at this seriously to take more time. and have a more full discussion about it. Thank you. Thank you. >> Welcome, please. State your name. What part of town you're from? You'll have 3 minutes. >> When Baxter from Fairview. But I was raised back in it the second hand smoke and I did smoke 4 and a half years. But when you when you spoke and you stop smoking, it's worse that it's there and awe. I my mom worked with people. My mom never small, but she was round secondhand smoke color life and that then all of a meme. I get quit the same time. And my mom was working in office is a state office and for people's spoke and she was only one and then spoke. And you know, I wish that mean. You get second hand smoke and I don't I mean, I was I was at the fair and somebody was smoking marijuana and it nauseated me with outside live right next week. And the lady went up to it. and told the guy stop it or he she's going to get a the security. >> All right. Thank you. Anyone off. on the public hearing on the snow by. >> Moved to continue the public hearing to the meeting of October 7. So the motion would be to reopen the public hearing and then continue it. Yes, okay. Mr. Martinez's move to reopen the public hearing, continue it to the meaning of what. October 7. Is there a second motion? I'll second Moved by Martinez. Second, my Mister Rivera. discussion. Martinez want to. I encourage my colleagues to consider what they heard from the testifiers and take more time with the questions that you may have. One of the things that in talking with folks specifically even just this evening. There's opportunity for educating folks about what this particular item is with the context of the legal history has been. And I think a lot of folks aren't necessarily as clear and so additional time is warranted. And I think opportunity for all of us to learn and and and increasing education opportunities. I yes, vote. soldiers. >> I think I'm ready to dispatch with this tonight. So I'm going to be a no continuing. Anyone else. The motion. members may proceed to >> 4 to 6, a motion to postpone failed. So we're back on the main motion. Any discussion. It's probably. >> Thanks. A move to postpone the indefinitely. >> There's a motion to postpone indefinitely. Imus Brawley second by. It's over Smith's probably. >> Yeah, thank And I do appreciate the the invitation to reopen this discussion. I guess from my part, I feel that one that voters have already spoken and and not that long ago. And I feel that I suppose we could just take a vote on this item tonight. I think if we postpone indefinitely than it does leave more opportunity to bring back a new item and potentially take more time with that. If desired. I don't see how this is. I don't how it would go against the will of the voters. So so things. Chris Martinez. Thank you. Chair. >> Let's start off with. I encourage folks to not vote to postpone indefinitely. But nevertheless. I wanted to just clarify a couple of things. As we have the opportunity here. Pulled a sub chair. He's been asserted the will of the voters. And I think I'll begin with that. Chairman 2014, Alaska voters made it clear that they approved. Legalization of marijuana in all of its forms. That included every form of of consumption at that point. And it was about freedom, regulation and responsible adult use. So the will of the voters was to Ali allow. Legalization and all of its forms. After legalization of state built regulatory framework and local governments, including Anchorage, began cautiously implementing it. In 2019. This assembly, not members here, although some may have been on this member Weddleton mentioned that he was when he left for this evening. Began. 2019 when allowing on-site consumption of edibles only. And the question about inhalation came to voters as a plebiscite. In a different climate around the health concerns of secondhand smoking. When we already had a smoking ban. And that proposition failed. Today, 5 years later, we're in a different place. Today. The state has fully develop strict rules for on-site consumption, including and all the way through inhalation. With requirements for ventilation employee protections in separate areas from retail. Other municipalities, including Fairbanks, have moved forward successfully. Alignment with the states and the voters intent of allowing. Consenting adults to have access to cannabis and all of its forms. This ordinance, correct? That imbalance and creates an hour exemption to our smoking ban. Only 4 license retail establishments, marijuana establishments only designated areas and only under the strictest of safeguards as best as we can. The safeguards include smoke-free employee monitoring stations ventilation that prevents exposure to the public and daily consumption limits to prevent overuse. This conversation for it's essentially around public health, ensuring that there are on site and safe regulated places. Do fulfilled the voter intent. Secondly. Today, and this is one of the points that I hope for clarification. I had a conversation in the hallway around like, does this does this allow onsite consumption to happen? And let's be clear for everyone whether this passes or not onsite consumption in Anchorage is permissible all the way up through inhalation of smoke. So for folks who are saying who are thinking that this somehow will allow onsite consumption in Anchorage? Well, it already is allowable. We have endorsements coming forward. For businesses who are going to be moving in that direction. What this particularly does is creates another endorsement for the smoking. So even if you were to have a cafe. It doesn't necessarily qualify you for having a smoking area. It is a special higher level of endorsement. In alignment with the state regulations. From an economic development perspective, which is really where this comes from, because it's about the voter intent, but also from my vantage point. The CDC, the community Economic Development Committee on the one's that hears the applications. We are the ones that often here the the conversations around the businesses themselves and strengthening the industry is also about making sure that we have safe places to be that or not, that don't put people in harm's way like what we heard out in the street. So just consider anecdotally smoking in the street today, marijuana legal, legal marijuana. You can buy them a stall with technically it's illegal to smoke in the street today. And technically the only place it's legal to smoke your legally acquired marijuana. Is in a private property. So you must own the private property because if you are a renter, you probably have an agreement that you can smoke indoors. So you you're at the risk. If you are a medical patient and use this for any of those purposes or just recreational adult under your own consent. So let's be clear. This ordinance doesn't undo the 2020 vote. It responds to it. Voters said no to unrestricted smoking. And I don't disagree. What we're proposing hears calf. What I'm proposing here is regulated inhalation in line with state law and best practices. By passing this. Today we honor the original intent of the voters in 2020 2014. We also aligned with the state. Regulations and our Pierre Municipality. While honoring the secondhand smoking ban as best as we can with the smallest cut out for these particular endorsement establishments, which will be very difficult to get. Hopefully hopefully striking the right balance between liberty, public health, economic opportunity and taking the next step forward in the legislative process that was deliberate, thoughtful. And I think it's about time that we fulfill the voters intent from my vantage point. But again, chair, this is. I'm not religious about this as much as it seems like the next logical step in a discussion of from where the voters were too. What the economic and technological conditions are today. Thank you. Miss Martinez. Next on the QB have spoken to also note that Mr. Vaughan has joined us on the phone. Thank you, chair. >> I think I I appreciate that their public health concerns associated with this particular ordinance. I think I'm really more interested in the public safety concern. I've what happens. Post consumption. So I I'm curious if I could ask a couple of questions of chief case. Getting chief. Thank you. I'm wondering if there are any. But there is technology available. That allows someone to assess in objective way or an empirical way. Someone's level of intoxication relative to marijuana consumption, similar to a breathalyzer for alcohol use anything that exists and that route. >> Threw the chair all the way Little bit of a complicated question. you a great Back up a little. >> So the >> the tests that originally done for both alcohol and marijuana know East. Both is compare 6. I think it helps understand bettors center field sobriety test. And that's that's the base level. Once you start moving forward and you determine that somebody is under the influence of marijuana. Assuming it's just marijuana alcohol because if it's alcohol as well, we got on the alcohol road because the alcohol road is much easier. It's much more consistent. It's been tested. And we know 0, 8 is recognized in all 50 states as being that minimum level of standard to where somebody is too impaired to operate a motor vehicle. On the marijuana side, little bit different. There is not recognize riser next recognizable number. And there's not a test that can be administered as easily as a breathalyzer test on the alcohol side. So generally what happens, particularly in state of Alaska as want an officer determines that or believes is reasonable suspicion to believe that the price you probable cause to believe that somebody sent floats of marijuana law parade, motor vehicle, then they go through search warrant process to be able to term determine the. Leveled in talks, get in their blood. But it's not a standard level. So it's not. 0.5 micrograms is the level 2 that's been accepted. So it's a little bit challenging, right? Like it's not only what's in their blood and it's also the man or driving. If we're talking about operate an influence, it's a way to perform their field sobriety tests. It's more of a totality of the circumstances and whether or not it can go be presented front of a jury convinced them that based on everything that that intoxicating substance, what is what caused impaired driving or the collision or whatever cost? The officers stopped the the driver. >> So so it sounds there's there's lack of clarity. Respect to marijuana, intoxication versus. Alcohol intoxication. We we have a an objective test objective, an objective metric without column. We don't necessarily have yet for marijuana. But that Reasonably accurate summary. Yes, we have decades in decades of data points on the alcohol side. We do not have that on the marijuana sign. >> And you can look at different states that have done different various different testings in the way their statutes are written. But it it's still all everyone's kind of the same place they're trying to navigate this kind of seems to be that same time. >> How how do you see this playing out? From a public safety standpoint? Does an ordinance like this? Pose a challenge for enforcement for your officers. >> Anything marijuana and driving related always pose a challenge from the standpoint of what I just couldn't saying. just right. It's not a tested system that it's not if there was a test and we could do standard field sobriety test, this would be uneasy enforcement. It would have the easy to collect data and tell you even after the years of having. >> Marijuana available as illegal consumption. The data that we have based on impaired driving records is challenging to plug the system. >> Thank you. That's really helpful in that answers. My questions. I think that and I think that really encapsulates my concerns with with particular ordinance. Recognizing that, you know, perhaps we do have some differences in technology now that we didn't have years ago when when marijuana was legalized. The fact we don't have yet acknowledge yet. Have technology that removes harmful particulates. We can remove smells but not particulates that are carcinogenic from marijuana smoke. And the fact that we cannot objectively measure R can we legitimately and for safe driving. Toomey says that this is premature, at least from my standpoint. And so I I will be I will be a yes vote on postponing indefinitely. I think this is something that if in the future the technology existed that we could treat marijuana consumption in the same that we do alcohol consumption and have an objective metric for measuring intoxication. I might feel differently. But at this point, think it's very premature. Thank you. >> I support our small businesses, including the cannabis industry. I'm not convinced that this change is really supportive of the industry. A large number of studies have shown that non smoking laws had no economic effects or in some cases they actually lead to increase and economic activities in parts of restaurants, including in New York, which saw 12% tax receipt increase for bars and restaurants in the year after passing smoke-free loss. Cannabis many products that aren't inhaled, including CBD, oils and edibles and customers who purchased these may be reluctant to shop and establishments that have smoking bars as a part of them, particularly knowing that air filtration systems provide an adequate protection against second hand smoke and they're not a replacement for smoke-free workplaces. In fact, I have not received a single e-mail or testimony from a cannabis shop for the cannabis industry asking for to be passed. According to current CDC guidance using fans air conditioners, air purifiers and ventilation systems does not get rid of secondhand smoke. The CDC states that smoking in another room will not protect from secondhand smoke. It says that secondhand smoke can travel through doorways. Cracks in walls, electrical lines, ventilation systems and plumbing. The state code as written doesn't actually even require the best filtration systems, making it even more inadequate. Protect people from the effects of secondhand smoke it only states that the filtration must remove visible smoke completely ignoring gases and small particles that are more difficult to remove. This could change risks. Opening up the door to the tobacco industry to say it. people can smoke cannabis indoors. And why can't we have smoking rooms for tobacco products as well? It's estimated that 41,000 people die per year from second-hand smoke. So is this really a door that we want to open back up finally? And most importantly, a similar proposal was rejected by the voters in 2020. We talked about that by a 27 point spread. So that's a pretty clear mandate not to pass this. Thank you. >> current. I'd like to start absolute Specht people's personal liberties and choices in the Alaska voters. Clearly voted to legalize cannabis back in 2014. Understand the appeal to want to provide a safe and legal place for people to consume it. I don't dismiss that article, but the people South Anchorage voted 5 years ago. My district specifically 67 to 33 to not support this. And I just don't see enough evidence that circumstances have changed radically to overturn their vote. My job is to respect the will of my constituents and I will do that here tonight. Voting to postpone indefinitely. And if this were to come I'd like to see you back from the voters. That's >> Thank you, Mr. Cherry, you know, there's a certain irony to talk about voter intent when we're talking about we're talking about marijuana here in the state >> the >> gentlemen east Anchorage mention that while voters intended and 2014 to 2 to legalize and to make marijuana accessible all over the state of It's very vague. The voters in 2014 said yeah. What the h*** personal commitment make it legal? What this ordinance does today, though, it says a repeat of what we've already had already rehab for a hash this out. No pun intended in twenty-twenty. The voters rejected this too. And I know I know voters rejected this 2 to one. There's nothing that's changed. The regulatory framework is and isn't hasn't caught up you, sir, from chief case, there's nothing that's changed. That's that's made. This makes me think this be any different for the people. If this were to go before them again, I don't see how we could possibly vote to approve this. Right now I'll be voting to postpone indefinitely. Smart >> Thank you. Chair. In 2020, our 2020 rather 20 2019 where this assembly or the assembly at the time voted to allow on-site consumption and the side that you're describing in 2020. There was no business in twenty-twenty that I'm aware of in the state of Alaska that had an onsite consumption all the way through inhalation. So it would be accurate to say that at that time there was no information to know whether it would work or not. That would be fair, but it would not be fair to leave it there. What would be fair to say is that at least for the last couple of years, there have been businesses that have been operating and I don't think we've heard from any part of the state. Some of the concerns we've heard here today in real life. So just wanted to make sure that we're clear about that. Secondly. Again, just just to make sure we use this opportunity for education and putting things on the public record I am not an engineer. I do know about a thing called negative pressure rooms. And I do know that in there is the ability for >> hospitals to have highly infectious and contagious and toxic things isolated and separated. I do know that that we have high. We have technology to be able to have serious conversations, different. Then 5 years ago, different than a decade ago, even when the voters voted initially for adults to have access in all of its forms. And all of its forms. Legally. So just to follow up on that. So there is the technology available. But it's also an interesting thing about. When voters voted on this. Alicia Lee in 2014, as I recall. The rhetorical narrative was essentially parity with the alcohol industry. To treated like alcohol. Regulated, like alcohol tax. It like alcohol. We've pretty much done all of the above, except the regulating like alcohol part. We're taxing. And now we're applying the taxes as well. So that's happening there. What I heard from the chief was there so much data available for alcohol for so many years of having. Data available because of access to consumption and access to the testing that we learned over time. So today, my question, chief, you want to come back up, have a question for you. Because I just want to make sure that at the very least folks don't walk away with a Pollyanna vantage point that somehow this is the item that's going to open up the floodgates of marijuana consumption in Anchorage. All right. Today smoking is banned any legal in anchorage, marijuana consumption of smoking is not excessive is not legal. Even in. Is that accurate? So a business that's going to have an onsite consumption lounge. We'll have that today. Whether this passes or not all the way up through smoking. So essentially. The form of consumption is being separated from the ability to consume so that people today can consume. They get pulled over. They run through the rigmarole. learn. >> You. You find you do what you need to do. Their case. That happens today. Do you know when you pull folks over in the running to field sobriety test, what form of consumption they used. >> through the chairman Martinez. I would say that generally when there is a consumption that is inhalation. >> Not vape. >> But a traditional inhalation generally us that is very easily detectable. But that's the one y. A field sobriety test because of the older where chief from the car. Or from the person in the vehicle. Is that where the owner is? When we have that interaction with the person? Vehicle and or person? and there's a distinct difference now between Burt Houston and use marijuana. I appreciate that. So essentially today the public health concern is. The adult who can legally get it. But doesn't own their home? The smoking in a car? So it's that could happen. That's the lane that I'm tracking. With respect to. They don't have today in code where they could legally go. Yeah, we want implement gets to the question is they can get it legally and then gone the current smoke. Do you find that happening? A right? So the question of the wear is part of. This narrative today for former colleagues. To the intent that we have legalized and then where can folks? Do that particular aspect? Because in our code you can go all the way up to inhalation, but not that particular aspect. And I don't know what people's preferences are, but it seems interesting to new wants one of the forms of consumer ability for product that was voted on in its totality. And so my colleagues will ultimately decide. I think this is a really important conversation for the public because we're not going to put this ball back. Does not backwards. More and more young people are exposed to this. And I mean, I had a conversation with my 70 some odd year-old mama today. Who's about to have a reconstructive surgery and she's like. I don't. And she's all crushed Puerto Rican. She's like, I don't I don't want to see nobody doing out of my neighborhood. But but with but if they have a place to go to investors looking good out there. So complex. But I appreciate that on the street. Where you find the interaction is often because someone was smoking in a place that they should have been usually in their vehicle. Thank you, chief. Appreciate it. Mr. thank you. Take a minute to get But I like far. First. I recognize ribbons on >> I honor that each member has their own reasons to be. Were there any question for us? But I will say the nanny state is alive and well. An argument that the voters said 5 or 6 years ago is not persuasive. If it was a simple Shelley adopt this code question. This question could come back once a month. If a member on it to be pressing here everyone. And maybe once it would land. it is complicated. We do have. Alcohol package stores and bars. We do allow places for people to get intoxicated in public. We don't have that for mayor. I think one of the points Martinez just making is that. There is a set of people who have no lawful place where they could consume this legal product. That's a reality. People who are renters of the landlord says no tourists who visit or stay in a hotel. We have a to class society, but there's nothing new about that. We've had a to class it forever and poor people are always left to be in the streets. So that's one of the factors here. All right. Thank you. Chief, though, your comments. Demonstrate a long, thoughtful approach to this question. We've been through this a few times and your knowledge about testing procedures and measuring intoxication for people who are under the influence of marijuana spot on. offer one small modification that there really. Tests demonstrate intoxication, even with a blood test at this point, unless you're testing for the actual THC, not the metabolite because all of the tests that are currently used for the metabolite and that could be a month old. Today are now or do not demonstrate intoxication. But everything you said. I agree with that. So I could hear us say thank you for being Weiss to these issues and not just. What a lot of other jurisdictions might offer talking points against the matter, using whatever nonsense that they could. Jenna. So thank you for being educated. Welcome and to my peers, I will just say that there is a class issue here to me. That's the bottom line of this. Always support the opportunity equalize for people in our community to have a right for a place to be. but again, I don't. anyone for the way that they decide on these questions. That's why we're here collectively to make decisions. So with that, I would say if there's no one else members may proceed motion postpone indefinitely. >> Member Holland. Is he admitted. Member Holland. >> Still there now. perceived. On a vote of 73, the motion to postpone indefinitely House pass the party. Next. We have our quasi judicial 5 out of 6 items left. Item 15 our 2025 dash 2.37 resolution, Christmas will simply settings, conditional protest regarding new restaurant eating Place license. Before I move on to that. Do we still have students in the audience here are here for their classrooms. There were a couple that were here. We might have scared him off, not the youth member that member but others note Mister Chair. I think we've gone too far. Thank you to the high school students who attended a meeting of the early part. And so for youth members just as a practice, we don't have them participate in alcohol, marijuana, licensing issues. And so this would normally be the time we would excuse our use numbers to go home if they want, but they can stay in the audience. Now we'll get back to 15, a resolution or 2025 dash 2.37 resolution, the Anchorage Municipal Assembly stating It's conditional protest regarding a new restaurant eating place. are 1, 6, 3, 7, 4, for America's restaurant LCD. 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Dash to 39 resolution to express with some of the standings conditional protest regarding the renewal Beverage dispensary license number. 200 small for Anchorage Bill. House OCD be at the continental located at 28 30 C street in Qatar. Last can dine on 503, public hearing. This item is now open. Anyone wish to be heard in the same. Seeing hearing. Karen said, I'm close 12 on E to prove second most probably second minute no discussion members may proceed to vote. motive 10 to 0 2025, dash 2.39 body next. We haven't. 15 DA our 2025 dash 2.40, resolution that Christmas will simply stating it's conditional. Protests targeting their faxed or license number one. 56 for Kate White J Corporation DBA in and out liquor. Number one, looking at on Arctic Boulevard. Anchorage, Alaska, 503. The public hearing on this item is still open. You know, to be heard. Senior, public hearing is now close with some of the money to prove second. Movement probably Ms Cervera a discussion. Senior discussion members next. See the vote. vote of 10 to 0 2025, Dash 2.40, past Monday. Next 7.15 E air 2025. Dash to 41 resolution of the Anchorage Municipal Assembly. Conditionally approving the continued operation under the current marijuana licenses in conditionally approving the renewals marijuana licenses for cultivation licenses. And could fall number M 1, 2, 3, 1, 7 wobbling moves threes are 72 retail licenses. Excuse me. We're eating. I think we got to read all retail licenses, the green or make ones are 6, 6, 1, 0, 6, 4, 6, widely moose and 3, 0, 7, 8 manufacturing licensing could call him 1, 2, 3, 1, 8, Public hearing on this item is now open. Anyone wish to be heard. none members proceed to vote. You to identify Okay, I'm sorry. your proposal I'm sorry public hearings now closed what's well, the >> your second probably second. My Mister Rivera, right struck to the coast Tech Any discussion. Senior non members next to vote. 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Tracked a subdivision 23. 25 o'clock One Anderson subdivision of the public hearing. item is now open. Anyone wish to be heard on this item. Seeing her members may proceed of public hearings now closed. That's a lot of body of 2 second. probably Mrs seconds. Now. Any discussion. Seeing none members vote. Vote of 10 to 0 2025, dash 2.45 This past body? Next, the final item on the agenda. item 15 H resolution R 2025 dash 2.46 Resolution. Thanks. Miss Wilson plea approving a premise modification to an all call special land use permit for theater or 5, 9, 6, 3, for top end Industries. Llc doing business discretion to be to a Central Business District Court located at 6.20, on 6th Avenue original Townsite subdivision. Thank you. The public hearing is now open. Speak, please come forward. Welcome, please. State your name. A part of town. You're from. Microphones Turn it on. Your honor. I welcome. Please stand over You have 3 minutes. >> Thank you. Good evening, chair and members of the Assembly. My name is Cody Costello and the president chief operating officer of Alaska Center for the Performing Thank you for the opportunity to speak today on behalf of a CPA in come here to voice strong support for the passage of the update to the conditional use permit for the Performing Arts Center. This update allows us to fully realize the work done by many over the past few years to evolve our theater license in a way that elevates the patient experience aligns with national industry standards and drives new revenue to support expanded services across the country. Performing arts venues have modernized their policies to allow for beverage consumption, including alcohol inside the theater. This approach has become a standard part of the overall performing arts experience and is when our patrons have been asking for us to provide for years. Passing the conditional use permit allows us the opportunity to fully serve our patients and mindfully care for all. The pack. Has a proven track record of operating responsibly for over. 35 years. This past summer, we hosted and tested a number of events of all sizes specifically to refine our operations approach in preparation to responsibly support expanded services upon your approval the conditional use permit changes. We will continue that elevated standard Withrow best robust operations and a security plan for the Atwood concert hall events. We staff over 60 personnel plus concessions and security approximately 40 for the Discovery Theater and approximately 20 for the Sydney Lawrence event. These teams are fully dedicated to ensuring safe, welcoming experiences for our patients, staff and artists, a CPA and is equally committed to continued evaluation and evolution of the expanded program integrating into the packs. Overall services. We look forward to working patrons to ensure the provision of the best possible experience for everyone. I operate. has the ability to evolve as we work with star concessions, provider and patrons to develop options of service within our abilities. But if we don't pass our hands, continue to be tied. This change is about elevating the page and experience meeting community expectations while ensuring the packing means a place where everyone feels welcome. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you. Welcome, please. State your name. A part of town you're from. You'll have 3 minutes. >> And the cross them, I'm a member of the board of directors for Alaska and Center. We are mostly retired business lawyer. When I was more active for work. And so active in the rewrite title for Alaska. States that use and alcohol. It's also involved in the drafting the ordinance for the Anchorage for Men, current carting and package I'm in favor of. The proposal here. Among other reasons that looks Cota Costello stated. It is very common in the news outside always the patient experience. And then addition even our own community, the bear to theater pop as another example of public venue people can go and consume alcohol, you know, with with in the future. I think it. Lbc experience. And I think it also will bring. revenue for Performing Arts center, which is badly need as most of you are aware, the building that his old and tired and any funds we can raise the bring it and better repair and modernize it. Welcome. Thank you. >> Thank you. Welcome, please. State your name. What part of town you're from? You'll have 3 minutes. >> Good evening. My name is Aaron Kiely, 9 live and work in the 501 zip code area. I am director of audience services at the Alaska Center for the Performing Arts, My employer, a CPA the nonprofit arts organization tasked with managing and operating the municipalities downtown treasure, known as the pack. Our shared vision within the context of life theater is to create the highest level of patron experience while serving the needs of our guests stemming from 37 years of experience in serving encourage arts community. We request that you approved the packs, expanded beverage consumption area application. Why should we make this change? Intermission is just not long enough to navigate the lobby to make use of facilities to enjoy concession offerings and to return to one seat in time for the Start of act. 2. A yes vote will accommodate parents with small children. Greater serve patrons navigating with mobility existence and welcome guests from are elderly demographic. Even without mobility challenges 2000 plus patrons in a multilevel lobby rushing about presents a safety concern worthy of problem solving. The proposed service area would improve the greater theater experience supporting the safe and slow consumption of alcohol and with the allowance of all beverages beyond water into our theaters, you'll also be supporting the diabetic who needs a drink of juice. And you'll be saying yes to the guest who simply wishes to sip on their soda. A CPA Incas in the business of creating magical memorable theater. Moments. Concession purchases are a part of that for close to 4 decades, the pack has been without violation. What we do have is a long history of patron complaints. I paid for my beverage. Why can't I drink And this doesn't make sense. A CPA also works diligently to notify patrons of any performance details that may influence their experience. No intermission. intermission, flashing lights at the end of act. One and sounds mimicking gunshots at the start of that, too. We will surely add notice that the concessionary beverages are allowed in the theater. That's off. That's honoring our guests. The continued right to decide for themselves. What experiences are right for them. Thank you for your time and attention and for your guests. All right. Thank you. Welcome, please. State your name apart attorney from you'll have 3 minutes. >> Hi, my name is tally Birch TL I and then like the I'm writing. I'm here today. Also support proof of this resolution. The modifications consistent with the intent behind the Legislature's recent updates to its alcohol statutes lines the pack as others as mentioned with other life theater venues across the U.S. while the modification, as others have mentioned, may end up increasing revenue. Some people won't buy a glass of wine if they can only drink in 15 minutes. I'm not one of those people, but I have friends even more importantly, it will advance the convenience and experience for many of the patrons. And I told my kids on the way here tonight that if we get our con there, they could probably also bring their sodas. And at some point. They he has long history responsables to urge to patrons experience and their safety. I have you know, ask you think of the organization has organization that can be trusted with both a thoughtful and responsible role out of this modification to its permits in respect to the broader context, challenges that the pact faces are substantial. The facility's aging. It needs significant reinvestment and along with other downtown businesses. As I know you all are aware is shoulders a heavy burden in regard to the challenges facing our home with facing our homeless population. So the conditional use permit tonight that won't solve those problems. But it is a step the assembly can take to show support for the future of this beloved institution. And thank you for your time. So don't go anywhere. >> Just quickly, tele Burch. We honor them and take a moment of personal privilege. The 50th anniversary of our municipality today. At the beginning of our celebrations. And would be remiss if I did not speak your father's name, Chris Burch. Who is a member of this body who served with honor. here you are to represent him. So glad to have Thank you. And thank you all because I realize coming here. >> get gift to our community is that you all sit on this this embley because these meetings >> can feel long at times. And I've only been here since around 7. So. >> Thankfully, also share with your family very much in the 50's. Thank you. All right. Sorry for the distraction. Welcome. Please take him from left and >> Thank you. My name is Jeff Jesse. I'm an alcoholic with a couple of decades of recovery. And I'm assuming that you all at my compass, peace or the email that I sit use. I will repeat that. I will ask you this. If you invited someone into your home or fewer in someone else's home and you knew there was somebody there who was in recovery and had struggled with alcohol. But you chose to drink in their presence anyway, which is not necessarily acceptable. Would you go sit next to them on the couch? So that they would be right next to you. Why you drain. I think most people would say no. And that's really the issue here. It's physician to the pack being able to have alcohol in the theater. It's the fact that it's overly broad. Their premise description includes all the theaters, every seat at every performance. There are many instances where it's possible to have alcohol in one area of location. And not in others. What I would ask you today is to delay consideration of this, not to vote against it, but to give the pack an opportunity to sit down and look at how they can mitigate some of these concerns about patrons and this is a public millman patrons who will be uncomfortable and potentially even at risk of having alcohol consumed right next to them. I did get a pretty positive response from the chair of the board who indicated that they are exploring a process for patrons to make seating or accommodation requests to avoid sitting directly next to alcohol consumption. I'm certainly willing to engage in that conversation like D*** for Austin and Bob Cline, Bob Klein, I co-chair the title for a committee. It worked h*** o* that major alcohol legislation a couple of years ago and believe me, we have a lot of disagreements along the way, but we managed to find a way to accommodate both the interest of the industry in the interests of people that were concerned about public health. I noticed it in the criteria for you to approve this type of ordinance. It says significant adverse impacts anticipated to result from the use. We'll be mitigated to offset to the maximum extent feasible. Well, he's just a concludes restatement that no negative impacts are anticipated. Mom telling you and there's going to be a negative impact on me. If I have to sit next to somebody that strain can. And if you're in recovering, there certainly is a negative impact. Just give us time to work out a modification to the site so that we can accommodate drinking in the theater and people in recovery. Thank you very much. Welcome, please. State your name. A part of town you're from. You'll have 3 minutes. >> I want him Backstrom Fairview and >> you know, I went to the rodeo and they have the West side and dry side. And one things I you know, one of the reasons why sit on that because I'm scared walking going through between people in Tripoli. Now you've got somebody that's got call. It. I've been around and I got and I was at a and I local dancing good dancer and people say I'm probably one the best. When I go to the March. But I don't drink, but I was at parking at the fair and I out and I was just sitting there and somebody comeuppance Bill, call my our and Mike Pence. Now, if you're working, what it now, if you're in a like a suit here and you come and somebody comes and spill stuff a year closed Bear C? lot times. I feel like when I walk through here and to think I feel like I'm gonna trick, nothing call him that. I just don't think this a good idea. And it's they don't they don't. I think they allow record racing and a lot of place. >> Please take an intimate part of town. You're from. You'll have 3 minutes. Good evening. Members. >> name is Robert Lucia. I'm the owner, general manager Chris Bistro. Bottle Shops. Appreciate you. Considering ordinance. alcohol in industry for 30 years. Certainly some strong feelings about it. We have a great track record on our own, but we also a great track record over the as well. One of the pieces of this ordinance that I find appealing for me personally and owning this liquor licenses that it does promote safety. promotes clarity for our staff. Currently when you're talking about a 15 or 20 minute period and trying to adjudicate whether someone is going to safely consume alcohol. It's a little bit of a c***. A crapshoot, you know, so someone's coming up to the bar with 5 minutes to go before curtain and you're trying to decide whether or not you should actually sell them this beer or not in your head. You generally know that it's probably not a good idea to give somebody 5 minutes to drink a beer before heading into a theater. In a lot of ways. This ordinance solves some pretty big safety concerns for me. Secondly, we want the U.S. EPA to be successful for the A C P to be successful. They need revenue. You know, we're talking about looking at you know, in my computer system. The last 10 to 5 minutes before the show starts or before the second act begins are dead zones. We're work and work and work. And then the next thing, you know, the sales pretty much stopped because it's very rare for anybody to want to try have a hurried experience when they're talking about trying to enjoy a beverage. And so there's no doubt even in some of the test runs that we've made this summer that extending that ability for guests to buy product and then take that product into the theater. It's going to no doubt increase revenue, both for me as a business person and for the a CPA. And then lastly, I think we're overlooking big piece of this, which is we're talking about alcohol, but because of the logistics of the situation, it's an all or nothing for beverages to go into the theater. It's not going to be possible for us to easily determine, you know, as guests are entering the theater, what beverages and what cup and so because we can't allow alcohol into the theater. We can't allow anything into the theater. So not only does this out a better experience overall, but it allows. Kids to have soda kids to have choose people to, you know, have better evening, which is what they're out there for. So and a lot of ways I find this ordinance to be a real and certainly there are concerns. I understand people not wanting to sit next to intoxicated people. The people that are drinking, but we've navigated that on airplanes and other theaters in the past. And I think we can again. >> Thank you. Thank you. Mike First got turned off. Please state mammal part of town you're from. You'll have 3 minutes. >> All right. Your grandson, I'm a longtime mental health advocate. call it whatever my home. Work a lot with folks in homelessness and substance abuse issues are very challenging for those folks to know that now vacated for people in recovery. They need to know that they have pathways that are supported. And are safe and how we treat these pathways. Different classes of the community. Up own. Different substances. The distance of a disparity there. And on behalf of folks and recovery, I would ask that you. Pass this. And a lot more time. Argument, too. They discussed. Thank you. a beer. >> They saved them a part of town. You're from you'll have 3 minutes. >> Okay. change in Open wasn't playing talk on this, but I was kind of moves. But couple people including the shown right there. And so in the past, you know, I'm not going south particular way, but I used to frequent parse a lot, 3, 4 days a week. And I was the type person where I was a social drinker. I could start and stop any point in time. And I didn't have the chemical dependency issues that some people have or even the mental issues with that because it was just either you know, a drink right on trend. But not everybody has that ability. And so I can definitely understand some of the concerts in this where if you are mixing people together and they do not have the mental capacity say you know, I can't do that and then get tempted and then they go for it. then, you know, you could be sending someone fact years for decades or whatever, depending on how the outcome is. So, you know, maybe some of idea to take this and see if there's a wet and dry side you know, if multiple levels like maybe a mess near something else is specifically what? But there are ways to work problems and just have to willing to look at it and see, maybe it's worth taking a shot at. So that's pretty much I want to say on Thank you. Switch to be heard. Seen here in an items now closed. will the body? 2 second? >> Motion to approve by most probably seconded by spotted us fairly. Now. All different others. All right. I myself, the queue. Hassan, So I want to support this and I hear the concerns of a few folks. And and by the e-mails we received the question of can we find a way to set places where people who are not alcohol users or in recovery can have a space within the theater to enjoy the show or do we create a hostile environment for those people in order to create a comfortable environment for others? And so I'd like free to come forward. Please like ask a couple questions. I think I kind of heard a bit of a concern for Mister De Lucia that it's hard to manage who goes in and goes where with what cup? Because you can't tell once you saw the item, but is it feasible for the center ticks? 2 identify a section of the theater and sell tickets in that area that would be identified no alcohol that way. person who finds themselves in a position wanting to see with Cole can and knowing we can and then issues of management. That could be after the fact when John Smith of the beer comes into that section and says I'm sitting here and there like that. You about a ticket that said no, the ushers could work it out. Is that feasible? Potentially? >> And there's a number of challenges that we have to put this up on its feet to be able to evaluate. It's one thing to work it out on paper. But then when you put it in real time, those things can get challenging. There's a few elements equity that we need to look out from a pricing structure point of view. Just simply saying what side right side can be very difficult in terms of making sure that we have enough. Different price tickets in each category available for everyone select from. So that's one element that we're looking at, depending on the size and layout of the theater, including this scaling that happens from the producer, a presenter. That's where we also have to work event by event to really if that understand what the options Certainly something that we're looking I can't necessarily guarantee that at this time, but it's part of our overall operations plan and the structure of how we can move forward over the summer. We did multiple events we did at Wood events we did, which is the larger theater. 2000 seats. We have obviously a lot more flexibility in a space of that size. And then some of the smaller spaces. But one thing that I'm really pride with that we pride ourselves on is our ability to work with individual patrons to receive people as needed. When a concern comes up, whether it's someone is running strong perfume and have an allergy or they might have a concern about someone's behavior or in this case are talking about consumption. >> I had immediately goes and it's gonna be able to be here. So who knows where we end to like something along the lines of a condition that says 40% of the seats must be reserved. >> alcohol. At point of ticket sales that way. Patrons will know they're buying into a place that isn't. And then sort the details out and maybe if something along those lines gets included into this. There is some kind of a time period before that gets implemented to give you a test case, run it. Figure out how it works. Update the computer systems. I can imagine that you're it. People coming back at center kits and saying, well, no, we need a home summer program to do that because we have seating chart, right? And for each anyhow, I don't know the complexities, but my mind goes right to that place where I mean, else to turn does it bear tooth was used an example? They to it. It is doable. Obviously every show is different. You wouldn't soccer hall with Haiti's town coming back because it's a So it's not like it's black and white, but I don't know where the debates going to go, but my head is along the lines of figure out a percentage putting a rule in there that just says figured out. So OK, well, I got to see the 4 back. >> And just add one more element that, you know, like you, you brought up the Haiti's town example. Clearly we're going to work with all of our clients as well. And if there's an event and I always use the example of Sendai when they come to town, they have a very specific requirement and we don't sell any alcohol at that event. Gather so giving us the flexibility to be able to have this opportunity is what we're seeking. >> I do support that. I just to figure out some some buffers. But generally speaking, I'm behind you on that next misspelled Monday. >> Thank you, chair you. You were walking down a similar path. I think that I was although I'm I am disinclined to treat that as part of the conditional use permit. And what I hear is a really strong commitment on the part of the director of the board to explore workable means of sober seating. And I think that. commitment. I don't I I don't hear and need for us to adjudicate a percentage simply to reinforce that a conditional use permit comes with responsibility to the public. And I think that the the Alaska Center for the performing Arts understands that really clearly. So it sounds like this is something that they have already been thinking about already been working on. I think that that that alone speaks the commitment that they have make the PA see accessible for everyone, including the members of our community who are in recovery. So that is point point B, I think I'm I'm really compelled. As someone who has frequent to the PA see those 4 with my children and without. That. And it's always really troubles me that people were trying to put down an entire beer or a glass of wine or glass of champagne in. 12 and a half minutes less. If you're trying to build in a bathroom trip to me that models, irresponsible consumption. And that's not what I want my children to see in a public venue. And that's not what I want to model for my children and a public venue. And so I see this as a way for our community to model a more responsible consumption of alcohol apps, social. Consumption, that that does not try to put down an entire efforts and that length of time. And as a parent, I also appreciate the fact that my kids could take their sample, agree now into the theater with them. That was always a big fight. Was who gets to try to? Strike a shotgun. A sample green out before we have to walk back in the theater. So Yeah. I think that To me this this model's wet, responsible consumption ought to look like and does give people an opportunity to. To treat alcohol in a more respectful way. So I'm I'm very much in support of Thank you. The >> I just have little bit of a point of information. I chair. This is quasi judicial matter. So can you tell us what kind of Lee way that we have in this vote? >> I think that your question should be directed to council. But at the same time, I think you develop your question a little bit more because kind of the way you can vote? Yes or no, you can make amendments. But I think from your question on the county Council of be the best answer. >> So council on this is a quasi judicial matter. And so what kind of leeway do we have here to vote based on our personal preference versus? Voting. What's legally before us? >> Thanks for the question. Member Sue worse. I Jim, we have standard for you be sure decision and I guess it will vote as individual folks. But to evolve says unit that outcome of the vote used to based some Russian know, I and it can be arbitrary capricious or reasonable. And so you sort of better without can coat with a lot the house. And if it's just a personal preference, Houston is kind something and standards for approval for special meetings permit. Yeah, which stuff report. It's nice to each of those numbered paragraphs and I think that one of persons that testified and I well, you code it the courtroom here for approval, especially in scrum. It looks to be factors in culture, for approval for conditional use permit in 21 to 3.82 Says and in those to 7, which much having second ago. It's probably the one most rather we've I have a hunch whether there's significant adverse impacts anticipated resort from the use will be mitigated or offset to the maximum extent feasible. So we've just you're going talk about too some Russian nuisance and why you're voting? be. Don't think it's mitigated and not since. And that was it. I hope that its request. Yeah. Thank you. I would offer one layer of >> kind of consideration relative to your question. I think that you are asking. Your Got lights to a point of certain votes. We take art ministerial like really kind of must vote. Yes, like on certification of elections are Sur some flagrant, major violation really must vote. Yes, especially if you're on the ballot. And lost reelection or whatever. And so this isn't one of those votes cause you to do votes are just supposed to be based on the facts before you on the findings of the body and so, but you are not compelled to vote this way or that as long as you have it rational reason. That isn't arbitrary capricious or unreasonable. Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Chair. >> Generally I am in support of this item of the slump. And I am not sure that that's left is the best place for us to be putting. specific conditions I am know if there's really a good place for us to be putting specific conditions like this. It may be that this is just something that. We. >> Hold the pack to account too, working these things after the fact. Which I know probably makes some people nervous. >> What I did here today, though, was from the pack clear commitments that too. >> Do want to work on this issue. And so I will certainly is. Strongly suggested the pact that they work with. Recover Alaska and other recovery organizations on these issues. Just quick survey of how other jurisdictions handle these issues. These types of partnerships and issues are dealt with collaboratively creatively. So I know that there are solutions and I think we just need to empower folks to make something happen. >> Yes, thank Boy, I am torn on this partly because some names or invokes that. I spent a lot of time with a lot work on the state law changes. And I remember This debate came up and in the the law has been changed since then. But it was not part of that effort because despite kind of a lot of advocacy on I do appreciate the comments about kind I guess, managing potential impacts of this? I do actually have a question from Miss Costello as well. Anderson should be walking up and I know that we talked about that designated areas and so on. I guess I'm wondering more specifically if this passes, you know, knowing that there's already a season, it's that are kind of how would how would this be implemented between say now and the end of the year? You know, I think you talked about kind of phase rollout were or, you know, realistically, what would this look like? If I go to the pack in October, for example? >> Well, we would take the learnings from the summer and apply them immediately, already we've made the decision that generally we would not keep service open during act, one per se. So we're not not encouraging in and out increased consumption. During that time. We literally looking at just enjoying the beverage that you purchased during the regular wind up purchase time either before the show or at intermission. So we already tested both options. We saw what was working and what wasn't and why we would apply that in terms of additional implementation and how he would integrate our operations into existing events that are already on sale and open for just deciding where you're going to set. I think have to look at meant by it meant to see how the layout of seating is already happening and put things in place that we can also continue to test and see what works best for giving options to patrons. How that integrates into the box office. What kind of communications we we need to put out there and what kind of structure we we need to be putting in place. The mean, Mr. Constant brought up very real world of it when it comes to ticketing. So just looking at all those options so that we can probably use that. 25 26 season has continued testing so that we can move towards full integration. Thanks. And I know you mentioned, for example, the school district has specific rules around not serving alcohol. Those events, but for something like I guess other kind of kid oriented shows. Do you imagine still selling alcohol to >> parents or I guess what is because there's kind of adults only shows there's not really kids only because I don't drive themselves, but you know what? The ones are pointing towards kids that aren't schools. >> I think that that's going to be very much a collaboration with each presenter as well as us establishing best practices as we see things are moving and working very closely with our concessionaire. And pulling best practices from around the country, which we've already been doing in terms of how we evaluate which events that make sense for and which events we don't sell for. But we already have mixed mixed crowds in the lobbies for everything from the net akard to arctic entries. So it it really is a mixed crowd and we have had great success and ensuring that everyone is safe. Thank Yeah, I think there's there are certainly ways to mitigate this. I think for my part, I am still. >> I guess still swayed by health policy arguments. But I also understand the Packers looking to diversify revenue. I know that the scale of this is going to be modest paired to the full scale of the revenues of the pack needs and and the capital improvement. So hopefully folks expectations or manage their. But yeah, I guess I'm still. Contemplating I want to vote, but feel pulled in multiple directions I completely understand. And I think I just want to also point out that >> the driver and this well, revenue is a need to yes, but the driver in this is years of patron feedback and requests for a different experience and our own observations of behavior when it comes to how people are consuming with limited time. So thank you. Mr. Gates. >> Thinking first, I want to thank you that. The decision must be based on facts and the record. someone who was a you seem comes to Rivera. of Swine did that. You code for special Permits call provisions you simply too modify the conditions of approval. It's, you know, 21 with 3.40, C 7 Just want read time you STIs question modify. The conditions have improved with special permit from Cole in accordance subsection C 5 C C 5 C reaction. Sot a it may my flight and when some funds its by public safety concerns of negative impacts and surrounding properties. So just want to point this out you don't have what you need in the record to make an adverse decision. But us things go forward because never done this before. Maybe things will come out where you need get cannot condition of approval about the time or space for the conservative. Not have have a whatever. just want to point out that and coach to do something to bring this back any time. If you do see the need to modify conditions, have approval. guess that's one option should beware of no coat. And of course, is not making decisions not to postpone it for me more time. >> Question Cody, if you want my comeback. Yeah, you may want to sit closer to the front while this item is still open. Thank you for being here. In the spirit of learning an inquiry. Do you all currently doing a checked upon entry to the building? >> With individual patrons, now we do not. >> Theoretically a person to come into a performance already smashed. >> Oh, you mean in terms of are you talking about possession of alcohol them being under the influence alcohol? >> There's a to trip to choice questions. I love the answer to both. But I was thinking of under the influence. >> Well, certainly our concessionaire and and all of our security and staff hired trained to observe behavior. So yes, if we see someone that's under the influence, our team talks with each other and make sure to report that too. Those serving behind the bar to bring them to their attention if they themselves have not notice them in terms of bringing alcohol into the theater or into that. Building at all at, you know, we do have a weapons detection system that does catch some things that have a certain volume. But it's not catching. You know, if what you have in your 10 water bottle is water or vodka. We don't have a mechanism for doing that. But we do observe behavior and I think we observe it very well. >> Tonight, we've heard a little bit about the idea sober seeding. Have you ever heard of the concept secondhand Rick? >> I am assuming that someone giving alcohol to someone else, no. >> No. Similar to secondhand smoking. It's the secondary effects to others around the drinker or smoker. And so when you think of places where alcohol is consumed with some degree of. >> You are usually dealing with degrees of security and other mechanisms to deal with. >> Not only the sober place to be separated. The potential negative effects of the drunk patron. The second secondhand drinking. Aspect. We Mr. Baxter, for example, describe that. >> To bad behavior where he was at an event. Somebody spilled a drink on. the ripple effect. Yeah. How do you all understand a process that? >> We train our I sure staff and our security team that is there at every single event. Our House management team again for observing behaviors and removing disrupted patrons. If we have a complaint from one patient about the behavior of another, we address it immediately. And it does include removal at times. >> Is that serve as the training a certificate certification certified program, a certification training. >> For not for me, not for our security contract. Security are certified security personnel. Yes, I mean, we don't certify them okay. And I don't know. Maybe legal can help me with the answer to this question. Is there a difference between? Venues and the need for security or the additional security. Like, for example, a bar is there. I mean, we're talking a very different venues in different aspects. But I don't want parity in the conversation as best as I can. And so making the distinction between. The find during correct the pack versus the less find drink or somewhere else. I'm just curious to what was their packs responsibility if there is. Additional alcohol being available. Do we have a different dish? requirements for security or training 4 other venues that are not the pack for I just don't know that. You get back to me on. Mr. Markson. It's yes. I think we have to back to you on right what only reinforces the where my position is this evening with respect to, I think there's additional information here and on its face. I think this is. If these are. Generally speaking, I approached days of just kind of seemingly benign conversations, but there's really great opportunity to better understand the ecosystem of. This particular venue, opportunity for drinking at the venue, the safe spaces and so seems like there's a lot of learning opportunities. But I just couch that around. A venue within walking distances of several bars. So it's a downtown venue. And I just wonder about the parody of the public health question and how you all better maybe need some support to that. Maybe we require in other places. And I'm just learning a little bit. But if you have any thoughts about that. >> I mean, I I think we are incredibly staffed for each event. I mean, like I said, it's likes 60 for the Atwood 40 for the Discovery and 20 for the Sydney Lawrence Theater. It's combination of contract security, trained, core and our own house management and front of House staff, including additional back of House security. I think that we have a lot of eyes and support around us for for each event and we've been doing this for 35 plus years. and this is just added element that we don't see as and need add 20 more people, anything into the into the team we, I think are very efficient and very effective at managing the spaces and the services at the Performing Arts Center. And I look forward to being able to for patrons what they've been asking for. >> So thank Thank you. And I appreciate your time. Thank you for being here. And my my my courage meant to colleagues would be. On parity. The distinction between where where certain things are like more acceptable or not. I think is. Prop is challenging for me. And so. From the space of I hope that we can think of like. Where alcohol is. If there's certain training that we want to see as best practice, that maybe that's the sort of thing we think about as policy to support the businesses so that they can forward. And as was described tonight, responsible consumption of things. But I wonder about the training and I wonder about the parity and so that's just when my wanderings are tonight. But thank you, Cody, for that Answers. Mr. Johnson. And you can take me You all right. I want because you haven't spoken. jumped in the queue. I have a in the queue, Mr. Gates so I had previous question was going to be. Along the lines can we put a condition and the special and his permit that states. That we recognize that the requirement of sober space, our space that's safe for sober. Patrons is important and we want them to find a way. But I think that's not the way to do this. Now and I'm going to take a step back from that and but something that you said, Mr. Gates. And maybe you said it in in a kind of an exploratory way. I think you said the record doesn't demonstrate that an impact. >> Would be not arbitrary or capricious relative to our what we've heard found today. I can tell you. That my challenges with Mr. Jesse before, but he presented on the record tonight, a clear fact that could be utilized to argue that it is unsafe because there is no space for people in recovery. He said I am a person in recovery and this would harm me. And so the record has demonstrated tonight that a member could. Vote. No because of that under the code section beside it. I will say that that to me is factually base and even the scar you have Thank you. Chair. >> just wanted to point out, you know, the criteria that the assembly supposed to consider are laid out in the memorandum that you I'm one of them is you have consider whether any significant adverse impacts anticipated to result from the use will be mitigated or offset to the maximum extent feasible. Anything. Some of the testimony and concern for tonight do fit into that category and then paired with Mr. Gates comment earlier you are allowed to impose conditions and what code says you may impose special such special terms and conditions are modify existing conditions governing operation at the license as are in the public interest and consistent with the purposes title. So between those 2 things, you think the assembly does have the ability to impose conditions on, you know? Related to the testimony of her to Nate. would caution that you'd want them to be clear and friend and also able to be followed. So not something that is ambiguous or, you know, big because they are supposed to be enforceable and the lack of follow through and complying with the conditions of something that you want to be able have that come back to you that they would need to be clear enough that somebody could comply back. That's actionable. >> Right. And so I just wanted to correct. It was asserted that there wasn't a record sufficient to make that argument. And I would say that clearly there is such a record tonight. Now I'm not interested in making that record and finding tonight what I'm more interested in now because I try to chew on this. If we are going to a condition that says you will do this. But we have heard from the performing arts center that they are thinking about this and they're talking with the community and they're interested in this then I think what we ought to consider, don't love making sausage on the diocese, but it's early. Now that hired is whereas statement in which we cite that the petitioner has stated they are willing to work with and come up with a solution which will then be part of the record. Should we find ourselves in a place in the future where things aren't working out so well because of whatever circumstances that arise. And so I think at the least we should consider adding a whereas clause that in the testimony we heard I'm willing to work with the community to come up with a solution that way. It's not just lost in the vapors of. He should. He said she said and so to Mr. Your point about. Where does it go? It really does go on, especially in sprint if we have found a condition. But if we have not found a condition that. Because in the whereas so I would like to ask the members, take a five-minute break that I can to somewhere it's nothing with council. So we don't do it on the dice. You want to go on fault then we can go. I can go start my work and we'll take a break when you're. You have the gavel. >> Thank you, chair. I I think I was just going point out Mister Gates previous comment something may modify the conditions of the approval of a land use permanent any time. And so. I think I'm less inclined to. Sausage on the Dyess and 2. approve this conditional use permit understanding that. The Alaska alcohol, beverage Control board actually has its own training requirements, Topps cards are required anyone serving alcohol and and quite sure the crashes comply with those regulations we have a we have a responsible community partner here who has said that it is part of their overall operations plan to offer some kind of sober seating. I think that for me, is enough tonight to approve this conditional use permit and to remain mindful of the feedback that we continue to receive from members of the community who might. Really want to experience the shows that the P a C in a sober fashion. Commit as a body rather than allowing this to be lost to the sands of time we commit as a body to continue to be mindful of this understanding that the PC is going to be full before us frequently over the next year or 2. With respect to other capital improvements that need to made to their facility. So don't believe that this is going away and I don't think we need to amend a conditional use permit this entire conversation is now part of the public record like this. We have stated it has been stabbed multiple times that this is the intention of of the PC and moving forward. So I'm satisfied with where we are and personally ready to vote. All right. Thank you. So Mister Constant is working briefly on amendment. I think we discussed having it very short break and then members would have an opportunity to weigh in on that after they've seen the language. So we'll take a five-minute break. it is coming back on the record now, most probably on my behalf >> I will move to amend. This would be adding 3 whereas lines and this is on Page one starting line 11 and it's gonna read them. But there also in our e-mails where and will be on the board. I'm sorry. We have no be on the board as well. yet. So whereas people in reduction us high people in addiction recovery experience challenges from being around alcohol consumption and whereas the Anchorage Center for the Performing Arts has committed to working with recovery advocates to mitigate challenges sure up support of environments and whereas AMC, 21 0, 3, 0, 4, 0, C 7 E and C 5 C allow the assembly at any time add discretion to modify the conditions of approval of a special land use permit for alcohol when the assembly finds it is warranted by public safety concerns or negative impacts on surrounding properties. For example, of complaints are received about the current modification now, therefore. That's the end of the amendment. Second. thanks to Miss Costello. my question really is, does that statement there that says? >> Alaska Center for Performing Arts is committed to working with recovery advocates. Is that a true statement? >> That we're committed to working with recovery efforts. advocate, as yes, yes. >> To mitigate OK? And so then there's were not misstating anything. There. So to my peers, and I would just ask for your consideration for this amendment in the sense that it just provides a really clear record that. There are people with concerns. Organization has said that they will manage the concerns and if they don't, then we have the authority already under the code to come back and address those concerns. It's a simple way to make sure that the record accurately reflects. The homeless of the conversation that we just saw and heard your support. Please. amendment Thank you. Mister Chair. >> Really quickly on the amendment. Look what they're trying to do is not novel in the slightest to any sporting events here in town due to multiple start. Nothing out there trying to do right now is novel what we're trying to do is when we're getting into the level of my new show here with trying to manage business from the diocese's is is is novel and I don't think appropriate. I will be a no on this amendment. >> I guess my concern especially since this is a quasi judicial matter. Are we treating this business differently than we do? Similarly situated businesses. So are we treating them differently than the restaurants that are surrounding them downtown, that serve alcohol? Are we treating them differently than we did? The Bears twos. >> Eat. >> We heard about, you know, people are on an airplane. And so I just I have some concerns with this being a quasi-judicial manner matter and we're treating them differently. Then we would. >> Similarly situated businesses. >> Thanks. I guess I would make the argument that we are not acting in an arbitrary manner. It is certainly possible to address conditions specific to an end to a specific type of alcohol license of the theater license unless there's another one. Now there's only one in the state. It is a different type of license. And so we aren't regulating it differently. its other theater licenses because there's just the one arguably it is also a municipal facility. So it is it does have a lot of different audiences, general purpose. And so I would also argue it's different than a private business, although certainly it does operate. You know it. It needs to make money to to sustain itself. And I think where the can concerns about arbitrary or capricious or if we're saying to bars that are very similar. One is a friend of mine. The other is an enemy of treating the one that's the enemy differently. That is an arbitrary because it's based on who owns it or some other criteria. But I would say that it is certainly possible to treat different establishments differently, especially if their characteristics are different or unique. And I think in some ways the pack is very unique, even different than other theaters in the town. Thanks so myself Mr. Constance. >> Yeah, just don't understand. Reality is different than the testimony. If we're going to talk about treating them the same as we treat other entities that are similarly situated, sporting events were raised. There is a dry section. what section of the Sullivan Arena there is not open seating and alcohol on all sides. There's actually literally right now. So what's being argued is if we don't require that, they have a Web site and dry side which they've asked us not to do. And I've conceded we're not going to do that. If we don't do that, we are now treating them differently. So not supporting this is actually treating them differently and all the other businesses. And so the arguments are all moot in a sense because the center has agreed that they're willing to do this. And this isn't the whereas statements not in the effective clauses. This is the premium on the preamble is you'll work together to make sure that people don't cause. Havoc and if they cause havoc, it will fix it. Lest we have to use the code that already exist to come back in and fix it ourselves. And so the Beartooth is another example that was used by another member, the Beartooth What section in a dry section when you go to the Beartooth if you are young, not 21. You must walk up the stairs and sent upstairs in the balcony and look down on all the people drinking the beer. You cannot be downstairs where the people are drinking the beer watching movie or watching their show. And so if the argument is we want to treat similar businesses. Similarly, then you must actually vote at a condition. At least if you're going to be consistent with your on reason. But I'm arguing that there is a lesser step here. The lesser step being just get them to agree and they did agree that they will work with the advocates. That's it. That's all amendment I would ask your support. Mr. Mccormick. >> In that vein of treating like businesses. Likewise. And the examples brought up of Sullivan Arena, municipality own is their permit. Modified of one side has to OK, one side house be dry. One site and the same with bears tooth. Is there. And yet they're conditional license. Is that where just internal policies that they in place once their permits are approved? >> I can say that the licensed facility on premises art developed on the map. The map submitted to the assembly and approved the map. It's also submitted to amco unapproved correct me if I'm wrong, anybody, but I'm pretty sure that they have unto themselves adopt an amount that we have accepted as the factual basis. And so yes, essentially. But this petitioners before us, I might telling us we're not quite there yet. We would like to do this experiment. Little figure out how it works right and maybe have to come back and add some difference of maps or whatnot. But at this point. application is broadly for every square foot of the inside. And all we're saying here is. There's some work to and it somewhere as again, it is a preamble. It's not effectively. Thank you. members may proceed to vote on amendment. And a vote of 73. The amendment has passed. Now back on the main motion as amended anyone else wish to speak. none members next vote. On a vote of 10 to 0. our 2025 dash 2.46 As amended is passed the body. Good luck. That then we conclude our agenda and we will take on participation. If you wish to be heard a time, please come forward. Welcome, please. State your name apart. A 10 year from have 3 minutes. Microsoft. >> I William Backstrom everywhere. It and friend. It. Where for each of the marchers and she she would like to have sheet. In Anchorage and People are allowed to have have a. Have barking dogs. And they're saying if the dogs and I feel like. I got a question. first want. Can they go to the municipality and have approved? That's one question. And the other thing is want to talk about. I feel like they're saw. I think there's there's saw Northern Pike in some lakes round here. The Lord Northern Pike are bad chairman. Also the Ducks, Baby Ducks. And I think we needed maybe if we if we do have nor the pike in lake around here, I think we've got to work work on something to get rid of them. and out like out Big Lake, my you don't see water big light because there's Northern Pike. Thank you. Please come forward. >> Don't stand in the back. I'm going to start the clock when you start your march up here. Welcome, please. State your name. A part of town you're from. You'll have 3 minutes. gym in ACC anchors from the Coalition for the Homeless. So >> 2 per Shannon, Konta the state fair. You got a couple of going enjoy We got past R***** Madness. We got past pinot grigio and Merlot menace and we still have homeless man. haven't quite gotten past that. Won it. it's like a slow motion train wreck and it is coming and winter is approaching. And I'm not seen anything yet. So. it's sort of string theory and you have branches and trunks and they can go and positive outcomes and they can go in negative outcomes and worst ones sort of coming. But all that said. So typically, you know. Don't discuss certain things. But this time, I think you know, there was a Davis park up then obviously people got displaced from that one. what you have when you have nothing, you have community because all you really have is each other. And when you're stripped of that, you're displaced and you're pushed in this amount of times. The people are looking out for each other or not there all the time they go in different directions and sometimes people do look out for each other. that's that's something sticker right now. And there was woman, a name Amanda Shutters. And she was said snow and she had And then you And KSAT, if weren't hearing around. And so shortly after David's parking payment, she's found dead. All right off on face. And so that. Typically with these sorts of things, they don't get reported in the media that they don't even get reported by APD and they sort of get swept under the But she existed and she was out there and now she's no longer with us. And so this is sort of some of the consequences policies and that people don't see the 2, 3, 4, And down the line. And Circle K and it's about to shut down operations in and out of your area. September first. And so as a result of it is getting paid. People don't access to providers fighting through. As a result, you have increased theft margins become less something that business is about to shut down, which will potentially increase to desert overnight area. Additionally. People don't know or not, if you are depending on that area to get water and the area and that will now be removed and so certain things like this. You don't see you right at the front. you you can use start to see things and the greater picture. So. Discussion for another time. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else wish to be Please come forward. >> State your name? A part of Turner 3 minutes. >> so if you own a own, I'm a resident Eagle River. Exhibiting the values of loyalty, integrity and courage are rare, especially courage behalf of others. Equally. So to willingly. And you're so others will have to. Since May, I have not attended an Assembly HOR Committee meeting choosing to dedicate my time. 2 families that have served our country and whose members have injured consecutively. The hardships of separation of service. He forced retirement. Another job loss and the family and worst of all the death of their head of household. Each an of itself is difficult to endure or so consecutively. Support was needed. And when asked to help, I did not hesitate. We have the choice to assist, ignore or do what we can. If we have the ability we have the responsibility. So I have helped to organize a fundraiser to help them meet their expenses. It is by permanent through the municipality and it will be held in a downtown park, a vehicle river. It will be managed by volunteers this Saturday, all pro seat go to this family. To help support their sustainability. Please stop by and please lend your support. Thank you. >> Anyone else wish to be heard. move on to member comments. Mister President. No comments. Thank Thank you, Comment sector Mr. No comments. no comments. Thank you. >> Hope to see you next Friday, September 5th at the night market celebrating the meaning thanks. >> Mr. Johnson, no comment. This modern day. No comment chair. Thank you, Mr. Tennis. Thank you, chair. Just one quick comment. You mentioned something tonight really resonates with me. And I'm going to just kind of let it. >> sit with me for a while. You described. class struggle in our community. And it really hits home to me as something too. The deeply thoughtful and reflective. And it just reminds me of why I serve on the body. representing a lot of folks who you don't see at meetings. Why would was called the voice of the voiceless. Thank you, chair. Thank you, Mister Clark, no comments. Thank you. I would echo the comments of the vice of this little blue slip. All these amazing events that are starting to ramp up over the next several weeks. Members attend where you can. >> The member I'm really didn't speak about is on the 13th history of older neighborhoods at the Beartooth where you can, in fact, buy a beer. If you sit down on the bottom floor enjoy a story from David Rimmer. It is a good time. So I hope you can attend an act. Talk of the last promotion, a So moved. adjourned. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪