>>COUN. LEWIS: THE 20th MEETING OF THE 26th COUNCIL WILL COME TO ORDER. ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT. WE'LL HAVE THE MOMENT OF SILENCE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>COUN. GROUT: CIVIC PLAZA PARKING PASSES ARE PROVIDED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. YOU CAN OBTAIN A PARKING PASS NEAR THE CHAMBER EPTERANCE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CITY STAFF AND MEDIA HAVE THE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS IN PERSON AND LIVE STREAM THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS, GOVTV ON COMCAST CHANNEL 16, THE GOVTV WEBSITE, YOU TUBE AND ZOOM WEBINAR. THE LIVE STREAMS CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST SMART PHONES, TABLETS OR COMPUTERS. THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED, YOU ENABLE THE SERVICE AT THIS TIME. THE VIDEO RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETING WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING AT ANY TIME ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. COUNCIL STAFF IS AN AVAILABLE VIA TELEPHONE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED HELP FINDING THE VIDEOS ONLINE. CALL 505-768-3100 DURING BUSINESS HOURS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 8 TO 5. THE COUNCIL WILL TAKE A BREAK A 7 P.M. THIS EVENING. WITH REGARD TO DOQUORUM. WE WANT TONIGHT'S PROCEEDINGS TO BE AS CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL AS POSSIBLE. NO APPLAUSE OR OUTBURSTS DURING THE MEETING. THE MEETING WILL GO SMOOTHER IF WE'RE ALL RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER. MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM FOUR, ADMIN Q&A. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. I'VE BEEN TALKING TO PAT MONTOYA, I BELIEVE SOMEBODY FROM GENERAL SERVICES DIVISION WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER THEM. THE QUESTIONS REVOLVE AROUND THE FACT THAT ON NOVEMBER 8 I WAS IN MY OFFICE ON THE 9th FLOOR, I ARRANGED MY OFFICE TO LOOK OUT OVER THE BUILDING NEXT TO ME AND WATCH THE PIGEONS. REALLY NICE TO SIT AND DO YOUR WORK. I WAS APPALLED TO LOOK AT THE BUILDING NEXT TO US, WHICH IS A CITY-OWNED BUILD, AND SEE A TRAP WITH SEVERAL LIVE PIGEONS IN IT. WE IMMEDIATELY CALLED PAT MONTOYA AND ASKED WHAT WAS GOING ON. HE SAID I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE WILL RELEASE THE PIGEONS AND GET MORE INFORMATION. I HAVEN'T GOTTEN MORE INFORMATION. I'D LIKE TO KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, WHY WAS THERE A TRAP FULL OF LIVE BIRDS ON A CITY PROPERTY ON NOVEMBER 8th? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THE TRAP WAS ON OLD CITY HALL AS A PREVENTIVE MEASURE TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY ORDINANCE FOR REMOVAL OF OR PREVENTION OF PIGEONS COLLECTING ON CITY PROPERTY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED TO THOSE BIRDS IF YOU HAD NOT LET THEM GO? >> NOT LET THEM GO? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I WAS TOLD BY PAT MONTOYA, THE COO, THAT THE CAGE WAS OPENED AND THEY WERE LET GO. LATER THAT DAY. >> OKAY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WERE THEY? >> IN THE CASE OF THOSE PIGEONS, I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER THEY WERE LET GO OR NOT, FOR THE MOST PART THE PIGEONS ARE DISPOSED OF HUMANELY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> THEY'RE KILLED. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THEY'RE KILLED? AND WHAT'S THE POINT OF KILLING WILDLIFE ON CITY PROPERTY? >> AGAIN, TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCE. THE RISK THE PIGEONS PRESENT BY WAY OF THE OVERALL PRESENCE AND FECAL MATTER THEY DROP AROUND THE CITY FACILITY CREATE A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS. ONE, WE'RE HAVING TO INVEST APPROXIMATELY $45,000 A YEAR FOR PIGEON WASTE CLEAN UP AROUND CITY HALL, AND THERE'S THE INHERENT RISK OF ANYBODY WHO IS GOING TO BE EXPOSED TO PIGEON DROPPICINGS. WE SPEND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME TO KEEP THE GENERAL PUBLIC SAFE WHEN IT COMES TO COEXISTING WITH PIGEONS. WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE PUT A DEVICE ON CITY HALL IN AN EFFORT TO MOVE THE PIGEONS, HOWEVER THAT CAN'T COVER EVERYTHING. THE PIGEON TRAPPING IS OUR METHOD OF AUGMENTING THE PIGEONS. TO TRY TO REDUCE THE POPULATION AND TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY ORDINANCE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SO, WE KILL PIGEONS TO INCREASE OUR ABILITY TO COEXIST WITH PIGEONS? >> OUR FIRST ATTEMPT WAS TO PUSH THEM AWAY FROM CITY BUILDINGS, HOWEVER THAT WAS NOT 100% SUCCESSFUL. AND AS PIGEONS REPOPULATE ON AN AVERAGE OF 12 PIGEONS PER YEAR, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP UP WHILE AT THE SAME TIME KEEPING THE PUBLIC SAFE WHILE USING OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SO, IT LOOKS LIKE FROM MY OFFICE, WHERE I SAW THOSE IMPRISONED BIRDS, THERE WAS FOOD IN THE TRAP. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WE'RE ATTRACTING WILDLIFE ON TO CITY PROPERTY TO KILL THEM? >> THAT'S THE HUMANE EFFORT OF THE TRAPPIC. RATHER THAN HAVE -- I'M SORRY, COUNCIL PRESIDENT LEWIS, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THE INTENT IS WHILE THE PIGEONS ARE TRAPPED, THEY'RE NOT STARVED. THEY HAVE FOOD AND WATER UNTIL IT'S TIME. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: TO BE KILLED. >> YUP. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: AND HOW MANY PLACES DO WE TRAP AND KILL PIGEONS? >> UP TO THURSDAY, WE HAD FOUR SITES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WHAT HAPPENED ON THURSDAY? >> THEY WERE REMOVED. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WHY WERE THEY REMOVED? >> THERE WAS CONCERN AS TO HOW WE WERE DOING IT. WE WANTED TO STEP BACK, EVALUATE WHAT WE WERE DOING, SUBSTANTIATE IT AND PREPARE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: HOW ARE THE PIGEONS KILLED? >> I COULDN'T TELL YOU HOW THEY'RE KILLED. WE HIRE A CONTRACTOR TO DO THAT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THAT'S NOT IN THE CONTRACT? >> I DON'T THINK SO. I HAVE TO CHECK THE CONTRACT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YOU TRUST THE CONTRACTOR TO KILL NUMEROUS BIRDS EVERY WEEK. WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA HOW THEY DO THAT? >> I CAN'T SPEAK TO IT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER WILDLIFE THAT ARE LURED TO CITY PROPERTY AND KILLED THAT YOU KNOW? >> THERE ARE NO OTHER WILDLIFE TO BE KILLED. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YOU'RE ONLY LURING PIGEONS? >> FOR THE EFFORT OF THE WELL BEING OF THE PUBLIC AND THOSE THAT USE FACILITIES. YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WE PUT OUT FOOD FOR THEM. WHEN WE PUT OUT FOOD FOR WILDLIFE AND THEY SHOW UP T EAT THE FOOD AND KILL THEM, YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE DOING THIS TO COEXIST WITH PIGEONS ON CITY PROPERTY? >> YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR THE HHH DEPARTMENT. MR. RAMIREZ AND DR. VERPLOEGH. HI, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. LAST WEEK, I ASKED YOU WHETHER ALL SERVICE CONTRACTS ARE PAID FOR ON REIMBURSEMENT BASES, AND IF WE SOMETIMES PAY IN ADVANCE FOR THINGS LIKE HOUSING VOUCHERS. YOU DID REPLY. I HAVE TO FEW FOLLOW-UPS TO THAT. WE DID A REVIEW IN OUR OFFICE AND ONE VENDOR IS GETTING PAID IN ADVANCE FOR HOUSING VOUCHERS AND THE OTHERS DON'T SEEM TO BE. WHY IS THAT? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR GROUT, THAT DETERMINATION WAS MADE, I THINK, FOR THIS AGENCY PRIOR TO ME ACTUALLY STEPPING IN REGARD TO THAT ORGANIZATION. I ONLY STEPPED IN THIS YEAR AND LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR CONTRACTORS AND LOOKING AT THOSE AND I PUT MEASURES TO MAKE A DECISION. LIKE A RISK ASSESSMENT AND HOW TO ADMINISTER THE DOLLARS AND MOVING FORWARD. I UNDERSTAND THAT WAS IN PLACE PRIOR, BUT THE OTHERS I THINK IT'S BASED UPON THE DISCRETION OF THE DIRECTOR TO GRANT THAT WAIVER. THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I KNOW EXISTING PRIOR. >>COUN. GROUT: ACCORDING TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE REQUIREMENTS, ALL SERVICES ARE ON AN REIMBURSEMENT BASIS SO EXPENSES CAN BE REVIEWED. IS THIS REVIEW BEING DONE AFTER THE FACT? AND IF IT TURNED OUT THE CITY OVERPAID DOES THE VENDOR HAVE TO PAY US BACK? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT LEWIS, COUNCILOR GROUT, YES. WE REVIEW ALL REIMBURSEMENT, AND IF THERE'S AN OVERPAYMENT THEY PAY US BACK IF THAT'S FOUND. WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT MONEY COMES BACK TO US, SHOULD THERE BE OVERPAYMENT, BUT THEY'RE ALL REVIEWED AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE THAT SITUATION CAN HAPPEN. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THE ADMINISTRATIVE REQUIREMENTS DO SAY IN A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY PAYMENT CAN BE MADE IN ADVANCE IF THERE'S A DOCUMENTED NEED. HAS THIS SUPPORTIVE HOUSING COL COALITION SUBMITTED REQUEST THIS YEAR AND HAS THE NEED BEEN DOCUMENTED? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR GROUT NO. THEY HAVE NOT SUBMITTED IT THIS YEAR. AND NOT UNDER THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY. >>COUN. GROUT: THAT'S ONE OF THE RULES WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE FOLLOWING. >> CORRECT. FOR CLARITY, COUNCILOR GROUT, THAT WAIVER WAS GRANTED PRIOR TO WHAT THIS CONTRACT EXISTS FOR AND MOVING ON. WHEN I STEPPED IN, I WAS LOOKING AT THE ABILITY FOR US TO MAKE SURE AGENCIES HAVE A HEALTHY ORGANIZATION, BUT NONE HAVE COME BEFORE ME FOR THAT REQUEST MOVING FORWARD. >>COUN. GROUT: HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN RECEIVING PAYMENTS IN ADVANCE? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I WANT TO SAY THAT TOOK INTO PLACE PROBABLY ABOUT BEFORE I STEPPED IN IN JANUARY, ABOUT A YEAR AND HALF BEFORE JANUARY. >>COUN. GROUT: FOR TWO YEARS? >> I BELIEVE SO. I HAVE TO GET THE EXACT TIMELINE. I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME TONIGHT. >>COUN. GROUT: WHAT CIRCUMSTANCE IS USED TO JUSTIFY NOW? >> CURRENTLY THE PAYMENTS ARE NOT IN PLACE. >>COUN. GROUT: ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT? >> YES. >>COUN. GROUT: THAT SPECIFIC NEW CONTRACT WAS SIGNED IN JULY, AND IT SAYS THAT PAYMENT SHALL BE ON AN REIMBURSEMENT BASIS. SHOULDN'T THAT BE THE PREVAILING DOCUMENT? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR GROUT YES. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. OUR TAXPAYERS ARE EXTREMELY GENEROUS, WHETHER THEY MEAN IT TO BE OR NOT. THEY DESERVE TO KNOW WHERE THEIR MONEY IS GOING AND HOW IT'S BEING SPENT. OUR PROCUREMENT RULES ARE MEANT TO ENSURE THERE'S TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. I, FOR ONE, LIKE TO FOLLOW THOSE RULES. AND THE NUMBERS WE'VE LOOKED AT, THEY'RE STILL GETTING THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS TO THIS DAY. AHEAD OF TIME. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT LEWIS, COUNCILOR GROUT, HAPPY TO. BY MONTH BREAKDOWN, I CAN TELL YOU AS OF THIS MONTH THAT'S NOT THE CASE. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. AT THE LAST MEETING YOU SAID YOU'RE LOOKING AT VOUCHER TRACKING SYSTEM AND YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR US IN TWO WEEK'S TIME. WHAT DID YOU FIND OUT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO THREE SEPARATE DATA PLATFORMS. ONE CAN CALLED QUALTRICES AND ROOTS AND UNIIDES. WE NEED TO DO A REPORT FOR EACH OF THOSE THREE. I HAVE A REPORT WE CAN SHARE FOR YOU SHORTLY. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. VERY GOOD. I'M REALLY ANXIOUS FOR THAT. ALL THE DIGGING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. WE WANT TO ALL COUPLE TOGETHER AND SPENDING TAXPAYER MONEY WISELY. I THINK IF WE HAD THIS DATA SYSTEM THAT WORKED WITH HMIS AND PEOPLESOFT, I THINK IT WOULD DO WONDERS, WONDERS FOR THE WHOLE SYSTEM. TIMELINESS ON PAYMENTS BECAUSE I'VE HEARD WE'RE DELAYED ON SOME OF OUR PAYMENTS TO VENDORS AND WE CAN'T HAVE THAT. I'VE ALSO BEEN TOLD THERE'S A VENDOR THAT THEY CONSISTENTLY ARE ALWAYS LATE GETTING THEIR PAYMENT. AND THEY'RE CONSIDERING NOT APPLYING FOR ANOTHER RFP. WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT. SO, WE'VE GOT TO BE CHANGING WHAT WE'RE DOING, KIND OF ISN'T WORKING. WE NEED TO REALLY, REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO THIS. I THINK, ALSO, SOME OF THE TIMELINESS I'VE BEEN TOLD IS BECAUSE IT TAKES PEOPLE -- WE'RE DOING THIS ON EXCEL SPREAD SHEETS AND TAKING EVERYTHING AND THAT'S TAKING A LOT OF TIME. IF WE HAD A DATA SYSTEM THAT EVERYTHING THAT OUR VENDORS WERE ABLE TO INPUT, THINGS WHAT SPIT OUT A WHOLE LOT FASTER, BE A LOT MORE EFFICIENT, WE WOULDN'T NEED AS MANY -- I BET WE HAVE A LOT OF VACANCIES IN THE DEPARTMENT. WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO FILL THOSE BECAUSE THIS PROGRAM WOULD HELP WITH THAT. WHICH IS MORE EFFICIENT, SAVING TAXPAYER DOLLARS, GETTING OUR VENDORS PAID TIMELY. I'M ON THE CHEER LEADING SQUAT HERE TO GET THIS DATA SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AND IT NEEDS TO WORK WITH ALL VENDORS. I KNOW THE MOTEL VOUCHER AND HOTEL VOUCHERS ARE DIFFERENT, BUT THEY CAN ALSO WORK TOGETHER. SO, IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO REALLY BE SMART ABOUT. I THINK THAT THE EXPENSE FOR THIS SYSTEM IS A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR THE TAXPAYERS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. YOU CAN STAY. MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR YOU ALSO. ALSO, IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED LAST WEEK, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE HOME WISE CONTRACT, FOR THE HOME RENOVATIONS, WE HAD THAT PRESENTATION LAST WEEK AND I ASKED FOR DEMOGRAPHIC, BECAUSE MY BIGGEST PET PEEVE IN HOME WISE, AND I MET WITH THEM A LOT ABOUT THIS, IS WHO THEY'RE HELPING AND NOT HELPING. THEY'RE NOT GOOD AT HELPING FOLKS SUFFERING FROM HOUSING INSTABILITY AT THE HIGHEST RATE WHICH IS THE NATIVE-AMERICAN POPULATION AND BLACK COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHAT THE DATA SAYS. WE LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHIC FOR THE REHAB ILLATION TRAM AND FIND, AGAIN, THEY'VE HELPED NOBODY FROM THE BLACK COMMUNITY, NOBODY FROM THE NATIVE-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, NOBODY FROM THE EXTREMELY LOW INCOME. ONLY ONE PARTICIPANT FROM LOWCOME, THE REST ARE MODERATE TO -- ALL OF THEM ARE MODERATE TO LOW. THESE -- I'M JUST HAVING MORE QUESTIONS. ONE, WHEN WAS THIS CONTRACT EXECUTED? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT INFORMATION. I DIDN'T HAVE THAT QUESTION AHEAD OF TIME. >>COUN. ROGERS: I'M PRETTY SURE IT WAS 2021 BECAUSE I WAS WORKING HERE AT THE CITY. I WAS EXTREMELY INTERESTED IN THIS PROGRAM. IN MY WORK IN EQUITY AND INCLUSION AT THE DEPARTMENT AT THE TIME, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE HOME RENOVATION MONEY. I WAS TOLD BY YOUR DEPARTMENT THERE WAS 143 PEOPLE WAITING ON THE WAITING LIST FOR THIS PROGRAM. DURING THE PRESENTATION, THEY SAID THEY ONLY GIVEN OUT $1.3 MILLION OF THE $3 MILLION AWARDED IN THAT CONTRACT. I ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REST OF THE MONEY. THE RESPONSE WE GOT BACK WAS THAT, OH, THEY DO SPEND ALL THE MONEY SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO EXTEND THAT QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS HOW DO WE EXTEND THE CONTRACT THAT ALREADY ENDED. IF I HAD NOT ASKED THE QUESTION WHO WOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT THE HOME WISE DID NOT GET $1.3 MILLION REMAINDER OUT TO FAMILIES WHO DESPERATELY NEED HOME RENOVATIONS? FOR ME, PARTICULARLY, THIS HITS MY HEART. I WURPG WORKED WITH YOU IN OEI TO MAKE SURE FOLKS THAT DESPERATELY NEEDED THIS, BASED ON THE DATA, HAD ACCESS. HERE WE ARE IN 2024 IN THIS ROLE AND WE STILL SEE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS. I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WHO IS MANAGING THIS CONTRACT, HOW ARE WE TRACKING -- IS IT ON THE SPREADSHEET MY COLLEAGUE JUST TALKED ABOUT HOW WE TRACK THE MONEY GOING OUT? HOW DO WE MANAGE THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT? HOW DID WE MISS THEY DID NOT SPEND THE MONEY AND YOU HAD THEM BEFORE THIS COUNCIL TO SHINE ABOUT THE PROGRAMS AND WE FIND OUT THERE'S A MILLION DOLLARS PLUS LEFT. >> IN REGARD TO THAT, I THINK I WAS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION YOU HAD. WITH REGARD TO THIS QUESTION, WE DIDN'T GET THESE AHEAD OF TIME. I'M HAPPY TO DIG INTO IT. OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION OVERSEES THIS CONTRACT WITH HOME WISE. WE HAVE HOME REPAIR AND HOME BUYING ASSISTANT. THIS FUNDING MAY HAVE HAD AN EXTENSION, BUT I HAVE TO DIG IN. WITH REGARD TO TERMINATION FOR FEDERAL FUNDS, THAT MAY BE THE REASON FOR EXTENDING THE CONTRACT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THIS IS AN RFP, MR. PRESIDENT, WHERE YOU AWARD THEM $3 MILLION. THIS IS NOT ANY OTHER PROGRAM. THIS IS THE SAME STREAM OF MONEY. I'M PRETTY SURE FROM 2021. IT'S 2024. HOW MUCH INTEREST DID THEY GAIN BY SITTING IN THE ACCOUNT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS? WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FUNDING FOR -- FOR ME, THIS IS A HOT BUTP -- BUTTON ISSUE. I WAS TOLD THIS IS GOING TO BE A WAITING LIST AND WE'RE GOING TO GET IT OUT SO FAST. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO DIG INTO THIS. >> YEAH. HAPPY TO DO THAT, COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS REALLY NOT FOR THE FOLKS AT THE PODIUM BUT FOR THE ADMINISTRATION ON THIS TOPIC. I THINK THAT ONE OF THE SADDEST THINGS IS WE DON'T DO ENOUGH TO HELP OUR LOW INCOME CONSTITUENTS WITH WEATHERIZATION AND INCREASING THE SAFETY IN THEIR HOMES AND MAKING SURE THEY CAN PAY THEIR UTILITY BILLS. WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM THAT IS VERY SMALL COMPARED TO THE ONE COUNCILOR ROGERS IS REFERENCING CALLED THE COMMUNITY EFFICIENCY PROJECT WHICH WAS FUNDED BEFORE I TOOK OFFICE. IT'S ONLY $100,000 A YEAR AND IT DOES SO MUCH GOOD FOR ACTUAL LOW INCOME PEOPLE. MOSTLY IN THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT. I HAVE RECENTLY LEARNED THAT WE JUST STOPPED THAT PROGRAM AND REPURPOSED 40K TO ADD WATER EFFICIENCY INTO THAT PROGRAM AND THAT'S ALL THEY'RE DOING. I WANTED TO RAISE THAT POINT WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC OF HELPING ACTUAL LOW-INCOME PEOPLE, THAT WE HAD A PROGRAM THAT WON MANY AWARDS. IN FACT, JUST WON ANOTHER ONE A FEW WEEKS AGO AND THE ADMINISTRATION DECIDED NOT TO CONTINUE THAT. IT'S SHAMEFUL THAT WE CAN'T FIND WAYS TO GET THINGS TO PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY IN NEED. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I DIDN'T SUBMIT THESE IN ADVANCE, BUT I HAVE ALSO HEARD THAT THE CITY IS PAYING IN ADVANCE OR HOWEVER WE'RE GOING TO TERM IT, FUNDING FOR RESIDENTS THROUGH THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING COALITION AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WAS AWARE OF US DOING IN TAKING OVER. I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO KNOW ARE WE PAYING FOR APPROXIMATELY A THOUSAND PEOPLE TO HAVE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING THROUGH THIS COALITION. IF THAT'S THE CASE, I FOUND -- I HEARD IT'S COMING FROM HHH, SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHEN DID THAT GET APPROPRIATED? HOW DOES THAT FALL UNDER THE BUDGET? IS THAT HAPPENING? CAN WE GET MORE DETAILS BASED OFF THE QUESTIONS COUNCILOR GROUT WAS ASKING? IF WE'RE HEARING A COUPLE DIFFERENT STORIES FROM DIFFERENT AVENUES, I'M A FIRM BELIEVER THAT THE TRUTH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE. THAT MEANS BOTH SIDES ARE A LITTLE BIT WRONG. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CITY DOLLARS THAT IS SUPPOSED TO GO TO SOMETHING WE APPROPRIATED AND NOW IT'S GOING TO SOMETHING ELSE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S VERY WORTHY, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT. >> WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH A BRIEFING RELATING TO THIS. THERE'S MULTIPLE ISSUES WE WANT TO ENSURE WE DON'T SPEAK -- WE'LL MAKE SURE WE DO SO. >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, I ALSO DID NOT SEND THESE IN ADVANCE. IT WAS THROUGH NO ILL WILL. IS THE 24-HOUR DROPOFF AT GATEWAY UP AND RUNNING? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR BASSAN YES. AS OF JUNE. >>COUN. BASSAN: CAN YOU GIVE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION ON THE PROCESS AND WHAT'S HAPPENING? >> YES. I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE A WRITE UP OF THIS TOO SO YOU HAVE THAT PROCESS. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE DONE OUTREACH WITH ALL OF OUR FIST RESPONDERS. OUR PRIMARY REFERRAL ENTITY IS ACS. ACS STARTED HAVING GRAVEYARD ACCESS WAS -- WE STARTED FOR GREAT YARD, 8 P.M. TO 8 A.M. AND WE HAVE OFFICES TO TRANSITION THOSE TO OTHER PROVIDERS. AT LAST COUNT IT WAS OVER 250 INDIVIDUALS SINCE JUNE THAT HAVE BEEN DROPPED OFF. WE TAKE REFERRALS FROM APD, ACS, WE HAVE TAKEN SOME FROM CARE CAMPUS AS FAR AS INDIVIDUAL REFERRALS. AFR AS WELL AS ALBUQUERQUE AMBULANCE HAVE RESTRICTIVE GUIDELINES. SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN AS MANY OF THOSE BECAUSE OF PROTOCOL. WE REACHED OUT TO COUNTY FIRE, COUNTY POLICE TO EX-TAND THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE FIRST RESPONDER AREA AND PROMOTE IT MORE. WE'VE INTEGRATED WITH WINTER EMERGENCY PLANS. SHOULD WE NEED TO DEPLOY ADDITIONAL 20 BEDS IT COULD ACTUALLY HAVE SPACE IN THAT AREA WE WOULD UTILIZE THAT IF THE TEMPERATURES REQUIRED THAT AND WE NEED THAT EXPANSION. OUR CURRENT PROVIDERS IS COMMUNITY HEALTH UNM. THEY'RE OVERSEEING THAT. FIRST RESPONDER OPERATIONS. WE CAN GIVE YOU A FULL WRITE UP. AND IT TALKS ABOUT OUR NUMBERS, WHO WE SERVE, WHERE THE REFERRALS COME FROM, WHICH ENTITIES AND HOURS OF OPERATION. >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR, CAN I COME SEE IT? I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT. I'M BETTER -- SEEING IS BELIEVING. I'D LOVE TO GET AN UPDATE AND TOUR TO SEE HOW THIS IS OPERATING AND HOW IT'S WORKING. YOU SAID UNM PATHWAYS IS PART OF THE CONTRACT? IS IT A CONTRACT? OR IS IT JUST A PARTNERSHIP? >> FORGIVE ME. COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE HAVE AN IGA BECAUSE THEY'RE A GOVERNMENT ENTITY. THERE'S A CONTRACT IN PLACE WITH THEM WITH REGARD TO SERVICE AND OPERATION. IT'S ONLY FOR GRAVEYARD, WE'RE EXPLORING IF WE NEED TO GO TO 24-7 AND BUDGET FOR THAT, RIGHT NOW IT'S A GAVEYARD SERVICE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. THAT'S BEEN SIGNED? THAT AGREEMENT HAS BEEN SIGNED AND DELIVERED? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, SO THE CONTRACT WAS EXECUTED WEP WHEN THEY STARTED THE SERVICE AND WE'RE AT THE PLACE OF EXTENDING AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS YEAR'S ALLOCATION BECAUSE WE SEE PHASES, NUMBERS, HOW BUSY IT WAS GOING TO BE. WE'RE WORKING ON THE NEXT EXTENSION. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE WORKING ON AN EXTENSION? OKAY. PLEASE KEEP ME UPDATED FOR HOW THAT GOES. ALSO, NOT NECESSARILY EXPECTING AN ANSWER, BUT BEING THAT WE HAD THE PRESENTATION, I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN A PATHWAY OF THE ORIGINAL STREET CONNECT PROGRAM. I WOULD LOVE AN UPDATE ON THAT AND HOW THAT'S WORKING. I REALIZE THAT'S A DIFFERENT ENTITY, IT'S THE SAME ENTITY, BUT THEY'RE DIFFERENT. I GET THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP A THUMB ON STREET CORRECT AND HOW THAT'S OPERATING AND HOW THINGS ARE GOING WITH THEM TOO. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR BASSAN YES. LET US KNOW ABOUT THE TOUR. WE'LL SET IT UP. >>COUN. BASSAN: PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME AND MY OFFICE AND WE'LL GET IT ON THE CALENDAR. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE -- >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND AND COUNCILOR ROGERS FOR APPROVAL. MOTION PASSES. COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. COUNCILORS, ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR INTRODUCING O-60 AND REFERRING TO THE FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE. REPEALING AND REPLACING THE BUSINESS REGISTRATION ORDINANCE ALLOW FOR BUSINESS LICENSING. >>COUN. LEWIS: O-60, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. QUESTION ON THIS. THIS CAME FROM THE ADMINISTRATION RIGHT? THE ADMINISTRATION PROPOSED THIS BILL ORIGINALLY? OKAY. I UNDERSTAND, LOOKING AT THIS BILL, IT TAKES SMALL BUSINESS LICENSES, OR ACTUALLY REGISTRATIONS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, TURNS INTO A LICENSING PROGRAM AND RAISES THE FEES FROM $35 TO $200 -- THE EXPLANATION OF THE FEE INCREASES SOME. >> MR. PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR VARELA IS HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. THE ANSWER IS BASICALLY, YES. WE HAVE FOUND THAT THE BUSINESS REGISTRATION SYSTEM WHICH IS ALL THE CITY HAS IN PLACE OVER THE LAST FEW DECADES I ENTIRELY INADEQUATE FOR CREATING A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I'VE RECEIVED MANY CALLS FROM CITY COUNCILORS SAYING THERE'S A BUSINESS, WE UNDERSTAND THEY'RE NOT LICENSED, CAN YOU SEND CODE ENFORCEMENT OVER THERE AND SHUT THEM DOWN. THE ANSWER IS NO, WE CANNOT. WE DO NOT ISSUE BUSINESS LICENSES IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE MAKE THEM REGISTER FOR PURPOSE OF PROVIDING DATA ON THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THEY HAVE. FOR ALLOWING US TO CHECK THEIR ZONE TO SEE IF THEY'RE APPROPRIATELY ZONED. IF THEY DON'T REGISTER THE BUSINESS, THE ONLY PENALTY IS US ASKING THEM TO REGISTER AND THERE'S A $10 LATE FEE. THERE'S A MISCONCEPTION, THEY THINK BUSINESS REGISTRATION IS THE LICENSE AND THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO GO IN AT THE BUSINESSES WHO OPERATE LEGITIMATELY AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT A BUSINESS THAT IS VIOLATING LOCAL, STATE OR FEDERAL LAWS, AND TAKE AWAY THEIR LICENSE. WE CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT A LICENSING MECHANISM IN PLACE. YES, WE'RE PROPOSING TO GIVE THE GOOD BUSINESSES WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR, WHICH IS LICENSING SYSTEM RATHER THAN JUST A REGISTRATION SYSTEM. >>COUN. LEWIS: HOW OFTEN DO YOU DEAL WITH THOSE PHONE CALLS, DIRECTOR? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT LEWIS, I DEAL WITH THOSE PHONE CALLS LESS AND LESS BECAUSE I'VE PRETTY MUCH HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH AT LEAST HALF OF THE CITY COUNCILORS TO LET THEM KNOW THE BAD NEWS. I THINK THEY'VE GIVE THAT INFORMATION DIRECTLY TO CONSTITUENTS. WHEN I STARTED -- >>COUN. LEWIS: THE SMALL ADVISORY -- SMALL BUSINESS ADVISORY BOARD REVIEW THIS? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THE REASON IT'S ON A SLOW ROLL IS IN ORDER TO GIVE THE BOARD TIME TO REVIEW IT. I ASKED IF THE BOARD HAD A CHANCE YET, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE BOARD HAD TOO MANY VACANCIES. THEY HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO HAVE A QUORUM YET. ANOTHER REASON THAT WE PUT AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THIS AS JULY 1 OF NEXT YEAR TO GIVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO LOOK AND PROVIDE INPUT. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M GOING TO MAKE A FEW PROPOSALS AND SUGGESTIONS. NUMBER ONE, I REQUEST WE GET THE SMALL BUSINESS ADVISORY BOARD FULL AND ACTIVE AND MEETING AND DISCUSSING, NOT JUST THINGS LIKE THIS, BUT EVERYTHING THAT IMPACTS SMALL BUSINESSES IN OUR CITY. THAT'S MY FIRST SUGGESTION. THE SECOND SUGGESTION IS I'D LIKE TO SEE A PROPOSAL, ANY PROPOSAL FROM THE ADMINISTRATION THAT ACTUALLY LOWERS SOME FEES EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. IN FACT, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION EVER PROPOSED ANYTHING THAT WOULD PUT MONEY BACK IN THE POCKETS OF EVERYDAY CITIZENS IN THIS CITY? LET ALONE PEOPLE IN THE CITY THAT ARE TRYING TO CREATE SMALL BUSINESSES AND CREATE JOBS AND BETTER THEMSELVES? I GUESS THE ANSWER IS NEVER. NEVER IN THE LAST SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS THAT YOU NEVER PROPOSED ANYTHING THAT WOULD LOWER FEES IN THIS CITY. ALL WE'VE DONE IS YOU GUYS PROPOSE FEE AFTER FEE INCREASE OVER THE LAST YEAR. FEE FOR FOOD TRUCKS. WHEN WE HAD MORE MONEY IN THIS CITY THAN WE EVER HAD BEFORE. WE HAVE A BLOATED, MASSIVE MAYOR'S OFFICE THAT HAS MORE MONEY THAN EVER BEFORE AND MORE PEOPLE THAN EVER BEFORE. WE HAVE A CHIEF THAT'S DRIVING AROUND IN A $100,000 CAR. THIS CITY IS SWIMMING IN MONEY, AND EVERY PROPOSE WE GET FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION IS TO INCREASE FEES. TO MAKE MORE MONEY OUT OF THE POCKETS OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS CITY. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS BILL DOES. IT HAS GOOD INTENTIONS. MY CHALLENGE TO THE ADMINISTRATION IS YOU WOULD PROPOSE ANYTHING THAT WOULD LOWER FEES ON THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS CITY. DO MORE WITH LESS, IF YOU CAN. THAT'S PART OF EFFICIENCY AND GOOD GOVERNMENT. YOU THINK YOU'RE SMART PEOPLE IN THAT FINANCE OFFICE, AND LOOK AT WAYS YOU CAN DO MORE WITH LESS SO THE PEOPLE IN THIS CITY CAN HAVE MORE IN THEIR POCKET AT A TIME WHEN INFLATION IS TERRIBLE. I DON'T LIKE THIS BILL. I DON'T LIKE SEEING BILLS LIKE THIS. IT WILL PASS TONIGHT AND GO TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING. I HOPE IT NEVER COMES OUT OF THE COMMITTEE MEETING. I'LL TRY TO MAKE SURE IT NEVER WILL. UNLESS YOU WITHDRAW. MY PROPOSAL IS YOU WITHDRAW THIS BILL OR DON'T PROPOSE IT. GO BACK AND LOOK AT HOW TO DO MORE WITH LESS. WE CHARGE $35 FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO START A BUSINESS FOR TWO PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THE PAPERWORK. AND WE OFFER THEM ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. WE OFFER THEM NOTHING. LET'S JUST BUILD ANOTHER PROGRAM AND CALL IT LICENSERS AND CHARGE MORE PEOPLE, TAKE MORE MONEY OUT OF THE ECONOMY AND MAKE THE GOVERNMENT BIGGER AND GIVE US SOMETHING ELSE TO MANAGE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS. DIRECTOR, I KNOW THERE'S GOOD INTENTIONS AND THINGS WE CAN SOLVE. I THINK WE CAN SOLVE IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR $1 MILLION TO FIND A LICENSER PROGRAM. WE HAVE SMART PEOPLE THAT CAN FIND A MILLION DOLLARS. LET'S MAKE IT FREE TO START A BUSINESS IN THIS CITY. AND LET'S FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK FOR THEM AND GIVE THEM A LICENSE TO DO IT. THAT WOULD BE BETTER THAN JUST HIRING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND CONTINUING TO INCREASE OUR REVENUES AND IN EVERY POSSIBLE WE WAY WE CAN THINK OF. I HOPE YOU TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO SAY A LOT ABOUT THE SAME THINGS IN REFERENCE TO THE PRICE. ALSO IN REGARD TO REGISTRATION, YOU REQUIRE THINGS TAX ID NUMBER. WHAT DO YOU NEED TAX ID NUMBER FOR? YOU'RE NOT THE STATE. ALSO WHAT GOES ON WITH BUSINESS REGISTRATION IS YOU'RE USING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AS AN ENTITY TO DO INSPECTIONS. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES INSPECTIONS AND IF YOU CAN'T COMPLY, THEY COME BACK AROUND AND PUSH YOU FOR THAT BUSINESS REGISTRATION. IF YOU LEAVE OUT THE TAX ID NUMBER, YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY -- YOU CAN'T REGISTER. SO, THE SYSTEM IS ALSO VERY, VERY CONVOLUTED WHEN YOU GO ONLINE TO DEAL WITH IT. HAVING THE FIRE MARSHALS INSPECTINGTHEM AND HAVING THEM PUSH THE ISSUE IS WRONG AS WELL. I'M WITH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT LEWIS ON THIS BILL AS WELL. $200 IS A LOT FOR SOMEBODY TRYING TO GO OUT AND GET STARTED ON A BUSINESS. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I APPRECIATE THOSE CONCERNS. I ESPECIALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF LOWERING COSTS FOR PEOPLE. FOR EXAMPLE, THIS ADMINISTRATION INTRODUCED LEGISLATION WHICH WAS PASSED IN ORDER TO WAIVE THE FAST TRACK FEES FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS. I'M PLEASED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT'S SUCCESSFUL. THERE'S 250 UNITS COMING ONLINE AS A RESULT OF THAT. SAVED THE TAXPAYERS AND COMMUNITY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WE TRY TO CUT COSTS WHEREVER WE CAN. THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION, IT WILL REQUIRE SERIOUS DEBATE, SERIOUS CONSIDERATION, BUT IN ORDER TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD FOR THE BUSINESSES OUT THERE THAT OPERATE LEGITIMATELY AND CALL US AND SAY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEM, WE WANT TO GIVE THEM AVENUE FOR SOME SORT OF RELIEF. WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT. BY THE WAY THE INCREASE IS $15. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU SAID $200, SIR. >> EVENTUALLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: LET'S DO MORE. LET'S DO MORE FOR PEOPLE. YOU GAVE ONE EXAMPLE THAT'S GREAT. I WANT TO HEAR A LOT MORE EXAMPLES. LET'S DO MORE NEXT YEAR. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, SINCE WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS. A COUPLE THINGS, IN 2020, I LEARNED -- I WAS EDUCATED AS FAR AS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BUSINESS REGISTRATION AND BUSINESS LICENSE. IT IS MIND-BLOWING TO ME, HOW MYSELF INCLUDED AS AN EVERYDAY ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENT, I THOUGHT A BUSINESS REGISTRATION WAS A BUSINESS HAD TO GO GET IN ORDER TO CONDUCT BUSINESS. IT'S LIKE A DATA REGISTRY SO WE NOW HOW MANY RESTAURANTS AND TIRE SHOPS WE HAVE IN THE CITY. THAT IS GREAT. BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR THE BUSINESSES CALLING BLUFF ON THEIR COMPETITORS WHO ARE CHEATING THE OTHER RESIDENTS IN THIS CITY. I'M SIMPLY ASKING FOR THE COUNCIL TO PLEASE PUT THIS IN COMMITTEE FOR DEBATE AND FRUSTRATION AND ANGER AND WISDOM AND WHATEVER. IF WE CAN JUST GET IT TO COMMITTEE, I'D BE GRATEFUL TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR THAT. IF THE COUNCIL AND COMMITTEE WILLS TO REMOVE THE FEES, THAT'S FINE TOO, BUT I ABSOLUTELY HOPE THERE'S SERIOUS CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BUSINESS REGISTRATION PROCESS AND THE BUSINESS LICENSE PROCESS. AND WHAT IT WILL OR WON'T DO FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND ALL OF THE RESIDENTS AND PATRONS. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT IN PUTTING THIS IN FGO. >>COUN. LEWIS: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR RULES SUSPENSION. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT PASSES ON 8-1. COUNCILOR GROUT. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, HOW DID YOU VOTE? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: IT WAS A YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: 8-1. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS FOR APPROVAL. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES, THOSE OPPOSED NO. LETTER IS APPROVED. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MET ON WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 13. IN THE MATTER OF R-94 DO PASS. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED NO. MOTION PASSES. >> I'M SORRY, AGAIN. COUNCILOR PEÑA, I DIDN'T YOUR HAND. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: IT'S UNANIMOUS. DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS? WE'LL GO TO CONSENT AGENDA. ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE 248 AND 249 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. LEWIS: THOSE ARE REMOVED. ANYTHING ELSE? THOSE BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE A BOARD OR COMMISSION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ FOR APPROVAL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED NO. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE REASON BEHIND THE TWO PULLS -- LAST MEETING WE HAD, I BELIEVE, FIVE APPOINTMENTS AND FOUR OF WHICH CAME FROM DISTRICT TWO AND IT WAS VOICED BY THIS COUNCIL A QUESTION OF WHY WE'RE NOT PULLING FROM LARGER PARTS OF THE CITY. AFTER SOME REVIEW, AND I'M SEEING THESE TWO FROM DISTRICT TWO AS WELL, WE PULLED A REVIEW AND FOUND THAT DISTRICT TWO AND DISTRICT SEVEN, RESPECTFULLY, HAVE A MAJORITY OF APPOINTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY. A TOTAL COMBINED OF 47. THE OTHER SEVEN DISTRICTS HAVE 55 TOTAL. THERE SEEMS TO BE A LARGE DISCREPANCY. I'M CURIOUS AND CHALLENGE THE ADMINISTRATION TO PULL APPOINTMENTS FROM THE REST OF THE CITY TO GET A BETTER DEMOGRAPHIC OF -- AND NOT JUST FROM SPECIFICALLY TWO OR ONE SPECIFIC AREA OF TOWN. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. WE SHOULD HAVE A BROADER SET. THAT SAID, IT'S REALLY HARD TO FILL A LOT OF BOARDS AND OFTENTIMES WE'RE STRUGGLING. WE SHOULDN'T PENALIZE CONSTITUENTS FROM DISTRICT TWO THAT LIKE TO STEP UP AND DO THE WORK. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YOU HAD -- I MOTION TO DEFER THESE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING AND GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION MORE TIME TO RESPOND TO THE ODD SET OF NUMBERS BEING PUT FORTH LAST WEEK AND THIS WEEK AGAIN. >>COUN. LEWIS: THERE'S A MOTION FOR DEFERRAL. SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST A REMINDER THAT WE ARE ALL VERY WELCOME TO RECRUIT PEOPLE FOR ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. I DO SO EVERY MONTH IN MY NEWSLETTER TO DISTRICT SEVEN RIZ -- RESIDENTS. AND THE FOLKS THAT STEP UP ARE THE FOLKS THAT PUT IN APPLICATIONS. THE MAYOR IS ONLY TO CHOOSE FROM THOSE WHO APPLY. I WOULD -- I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE APPLIED FOR THESE. I WOULD GUESS IT WAS PREDOMINANTLY PEOPLE IN TWO DISTRICTS THAT APPLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THE BOARD OPENING. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PUNISH THESE TWO PEOPLE WHO STEP FORWARD TO HELP OUR CITY. INSTEAD, LET'S GO RECRUIT FOR THE FUTURE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE IN DISTRICT FOUR THAT APPLIED FOR BOARD AND THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR MONTHS TO BE SELECTED FOR SOME OF THEM. SOME DON'T HAVE OPENINGS, SOME DO, AND SOMEHOW THEY FOLLOW UP AND CIRCLE BACK WITH US REPEATEDLY AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN APPOINTED OR SELECTED TO SERVE ON ANY OF THEM. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A PLETHORA, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN OTHER DISTRICTS THAT ARE WILLING TO STEP UP AND THEY HAVE NOT YET BEEN SELECTED. I WONDER IF THAT IS ACROSS THE BOARD OR NOT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILOR BASSAN SAID. I HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE APPLIED AND I HAVE CALLED AND THEY'RE STILL WAITING. AND THERE'S ONE FOR THIS BOARD. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT, THAT VERY INTERESTING. I'M SURPRISED. I WILL SAY I HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE IN DISTRICT 7 THAT APPLIED THAT DIDN'T GET CLOSEN EITHER. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S SOME GRAND PLAN AROUND THEM. I THINK IF YOU HAVE MORE APPLICATIONS THEN YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO GET A CHOICE FROM YOUR DISTRICT. AGAIN, NEW INFORMATION THAT I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MS. SENGEL. >> RELATED TO THE SMALL BUSINESS REGULATORY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED AN ABUNDANCE OF APPLICANTS FROM DISTRICT TWO. IT IS THE PRIMARY DISTRICT OF REPRESENTATION. THIS COMMITTEE ITSELF IS ONE IN WHICH WE LOOK AT AND REVIEW THOSE APPLICANTS AND BECAUSE THEY'RE TYPICALLY LOOKING AT REGULATORY ENVIRONMENTS AND WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE FOLKS THAT REPRESENT BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES AND WE GET A LOT OF THOSE APPLICATIONS FROM DISTRICT TWO. WE DID LOOK INTO IT BASED ON COUNCILOR GROUT'S QUESTIONS LAST WEEK -- OR LAST COUNCIL MEETING, AND WE HAD DISCUSSION WITH COUNCILOR GROUT RELATED TO THE INDIVIDUAL THAT SHE FELT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT. WE DID LOOK AT THAT AND FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS HAVE APPLIED, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, AND THEY REPRESENT BUSINESSES THAT ARE BRICK AND MORTAR. AND SPECIFICALLY THAT CASE RELATED TO COUNCILOR GROUT'S RECOMMENDATION, WE DON'T BELIEVE THE INDIVIDUAL HAS THAT BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESS. IT IS NOT ANYTHING AGAINST THAT INDIVIDUAL, WE ACTUALLY THINK THAT CANDIDATE THAT COUNCILOR GROUT BROUGHT FORWARD IS A FINE CANDIDATE FOR THE CITY. THESE TWO WERE CHOSEN BASED ON REPRESENTATION OF BRICK AND MORTAR AND INTERESTING AND WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, WE ALWAYS WANT TO ENSURE SOMEBODY VOLUNTEERED TO STEP FORWARD IF THEY WANT CONTINUE WE GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY. WE ALSO HAVE FOLKS THAT APPLY FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT DON'T HAVE A VACANCY. WE'VE CONTINUED TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS TO SEE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN OTHER BOARDS. I KNOW COUNCILOR BASSAN HAD A COUPLE OF THOSE RECENTLY. WE HAD ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT IS PERSISTENT ABOUT A BOARD THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT FOR A VACANCY BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR PRIMARY INTEREST IN SERVING. WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY THAT FOLKS ARE VOLUNTEERING. WE DO FIND THAT SOME DISTRICTS, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH COUNCILOR EFFORT, I THINK THAT'S SOMETIMES THE CASE. WE HAVE A HIGHER VOLUME OR FREQUENCY OF APPLICATIONS FROM THOSE DISTRICTS. IT IS NOT INTENDED TO REDUCE ANY ONE DISTRICT'S REPRESENTATION. IT'S JUST THE ABUNDANCE OR VOLUME WE HAVE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THESE TWO APPOINTMENTS ARE FROM DISTRICT TWO. DID YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT DIVERSITY AMONG DISTRICTS IN THE CITY? THIS ONE HAD SIMILAR QUALPHICS -- QUALIFICATIONS, IT SEEMS LIKE. >> I'M SORRY, MR. PRESIDENT. IN THIS CASE, THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, ARE BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES. WE DID SPECIFICALLY REVIEW THIS. WE FEEL IT BRINGS A LOT OF VALUE TO THIS COMMITTEE. WHICH IS WHY WE PUT THESE TWO FORWARD. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE HAVE PLENTY OF APPLICANTS, IT SEEMS LIKE, AND SOME FROM OTHER DISTRICTS THAT HAVE SIMILAR EXPERIENCE. AGAIN, IN THAT SITUATION, WOULDN'T YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SOME DIVERSITY OF DISTRICTS IN THAT REGARD? >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE DO. WE LOOK ACROSS ALL OF THE APPLICANTS AND CONSIDER THE REPRESENTATION ACROSS DISTRICTS. >>COUN. LEWIS: WHAT'S THE MAKEUP OF THIS BOARD AS FAR AS DISTRICT REPRESENTATION SO FAR? DO WE KNOW? >> MR. PRESIDENT, I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME. I DID NOT BRING MY NOTES. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE HAVE A LIST OF THEM NOW. WE DON'T SEE WHERE THEY'RE FROM. DOES OUR STAFF HAVE THAT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I'M LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW. I'M HAVING TROUBLE CONNECTING TO THE INTERNET. THE WEB PAGE SHOWS THE DISTRICT WHERE EACH ONE LIVED. I CAN'T TELL BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE INTERNET. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. I THINK THIS IS A SPECIFIC INSTANCE WHERE WE COULD HAVE HAD A LITTLE MORE DIVERSITY AMONG DISTRICTS IN THERE. AND THESE APPOINTMENTS REFLECT THAT AS WELL. COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND? HERE WE GO. WE ALREADY HAVE THREE PEOPLE FROM DISTRICT TWO. THIS WOULD MAKE -- SEVEN-MEMBER COMMITTEE, FIVE WILL BE DISTRICT TWO. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST TO ADD A GOOD EXAMPLE. THE TWO COUNCILORS, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU PUT FORTH YOUR PEOPLE. YOU EXPRESS IT. I'VE GOT 16 IN MINE. I'M THE THIRD SET IN HERE. YOU HAVE 13 FROM DISTRICT NINE, TWELVE FROM SIX, TWO FROM DIKT DISTRICT THREE, FIVE FROM DISTRICT ONE. YOU TAKE AWAY THOSE 21 AND 26 FROM TWO AND SEVEN, AND YOU'RE STILL GETTING -- I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GETTING A COMPLETE PICTURE OF EVERYTHING IN THE CITY. AND FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS ADVOCATED THAT WE NEEDED A MORE INPUT FROM A LOT MORE PLACES ON A SPECIFIC BILL THAT I PASSED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THAT WAS THE REASONING WE SAID IS WE NEED MORE INPUT. NOT AT THE FAULT OF THE COUNCILORS, BUT IT SEEMS WE'RE TARGETING A CERTAIN AREA OF TIME AND LEAVING THE REST OF THIS ALONE. >>COUN. LEWIS: I THINK THE FACT THAT THIS SPECIFIC BOARD HAVING FIVE OUT OF SEVEN FROM ONE DISTRICT. I THINK WE SHOULD PUT MORE EMPHASIZE ON CONSIDERING DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY FOR PEOPLE THAT REALLY WANT TO SERVE AND GIVE GOOD ADVICE. DIVERSITY AROUND THE CITY IS GOOD. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST A QUESTION, IF YOU CAN SHARE THE DATA YOU HAVE, I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST OF CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND I DID NOT TAKE THE TIME TO COUNT. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S AT LEAST 50. THERE'S LIKE SEVEN PEOPLE ON EACH OF THOSE. THAT'S A LOT MORE THAN COUNCILOR CHAMPINE SAID. I'M CURIOUS TO GET THE BREAKDOWN YOU USED AND WHICH BOARDS WERE USED FOR THAT BREAKDOWN. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I'LL DISSEMINATE IT. WHEN YOU REQUESTED THE INFORMATION, WE LOOKED AT ALL APPOINTEES FOR THIS PAST YEAR. WE DIDN'T LOOK AT EVERY MEMBER ON EVERY BOARD. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT LONGER. I BELIEVE WE HAVE 56 BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. AND SOME OF THEM HAVE UPWARDS OF 20 MEMBERS, SOME HAVE FIVE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR. PADILLA. I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON BOARD AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENT DISTRICT 7. I'M GLAD IT'S WORKING. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED, RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES ON 5-4. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER EC-249 FOR TWO WEEKS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? 249 FOR DEFERRAL. THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED NO. MOTION PASSES ON 5-4. WE'RE NOW ON ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. THERE WILL BE A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY NOVEMBER 25 AT 5:00 P.M. VIA ZOOM. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS, NO APPEALS. GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. IN-PERSON OR VIRTUALLY, IF ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA ON OUR WEBSITE. YOU CAN PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE GOT TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS COUNCILORS. ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL. TWO MINUTES BELL WILL RING TO INDICATE YOUR TIME IS UP. >> OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS ANAMI FOLLOWED BY MARSEN. >> HI. I'M MOSTLY GOING TO BE SPEAKING THROUGH YOU. THERE'S -- THE POLICIES THAT CAME UP DURING THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE DISCUSSED AND PEOPLE CAN MAKE COMMENTS ON THAT THROUGH ZOOM. IF YOU GO TO CABQ.GOV AND TYPE MENTAL HEALTH ADVISORY ECONOMY OR MHAC. I THINK THAT'S IT. >> MARSLEN FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> HI. TODAY I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT OUR UNHOUSED COMMUNITY. AS I USUALLY DO. ONE SURPRISE BILL, ONE MISSED PAYCHECK AND YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF HOMELESS. THIS SYSTEM DOES NOT WORK FOR EVERYDAY PEOPLE. AND THE MORE OF US IT GOBBLES UP THE WORST THIS WILL GET. -- HOME GENT PRICES HIGH. IT DOESN'T APPEAR OUT OF NOWHERE. THE DEPRIVING OF BASIC NEEDS LIKE FOOD, WATER, SHELTER IS A GROSS -- PEOPLE SHOULD NOT NEED TO EARN WARMTH. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO THROW PEOPLE IN THE COLD FOR NOT HAVING ENOUGH MONEY FOR RENT. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. WHY DO WE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE VOUCHER SYSTEM BEING BROKEN AND IT'S UNDER OUR ROOF. WHO IS THE ACS NOT HANDING OUT VOUCHERS? I SEE PEOPLE EVERY DAY THAT NEED VOUCHERS. I SEE PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT WOULD CRY AT BEING GIVEN A HOTEL VOUCHER THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO STAY IN THE COLD FOR ONE NIGHT. THESE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS TO PEOPLE. AND TO SEE THEM CHASTISE AROUND AND SAY WE HAVE TIME, WE'LL DO IT AT SOME POINT AND RUN THESE DIAGNOSTICS, WE NEED TO GET STARTED ON IT. PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TIME. PEOPLE CAN'T WAIT FOR THE RIGHT SYSTEMS WHILE WE WASTE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON INITIATIVES THAT ARE NOT WORKING FOR PEOPLE AND NOT HELPING THOSE WHO REALLY NEED IT. WHY ARE WE NOT HANDING OUT THE FOOD PEOPLE MAY NEED FOR THE WINTER MONTHS? WHY ARE WE NOT SANCTIONING ABANDONED LOT FOR SAFE OUTDOOR AREAS? -- WE TALK ABOUT ENCAMPMENTS BEING AN OBSTRUCTION TO THE PUBLIC, WHAT ELSE IS A BIG OBSTRUCTION? NOT HAVING SHELTER. NOT HAVING WARMTH IN THE WINTER. WE HAVE SO MANY EMPTY LOT, PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. GIVE PEOPLE SPACE TO LIVE AS HUMAN BEINGS. >> LISA FOLLOWED BY THERESA. >> GOOD EVENING, CHAIR LEWIS, COUNCILORS. I'M HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF. I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. BECAUSE OF COURSE, I'LL TALK ABOUT APD. AND NOT ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION THAT I'M ASSOCIATED WITH. I FIRST WANT TO COMMEND THE CITY COUNCILORS WHO REGULARLY RESPOND TO CONSTITUENTS AND THOSE FROM OUTSIDE THEIR DISTRICT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILOR ROGERS, COUNCILOR GROUT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND COUNCILOR PEÑA, FOR YOUR RESPONSES. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, AND COUNCILOR ROGERS FOR YOUR MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH US. I MET SOME REALLY COOL PEOPLE AND GOT STUFF DONE FOR MY PARENTS HOUSE. WE MET SOMEONE AND GOT -- WE CAN ALL GET CONNECTED THROUGH -- IF YOU HAVE ONE ONLINE I'LL JUMP ON YOURS TOO. I'LL MEET PEOPLE. I TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AN ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. $680,000 OVER FOUR YEARS TO INITIATE AND DEVELOP TRAINING PROGRAMS FOR APD. IS APD'S BUDGET NOT ALREADY -- IT'S BLOATED, BUT DOES IT NOT HAVE TRAININGS BUILT INTO THE BUDGET? WHY ARE WE BUDGETING TO TRAIN POLICE TO BE NICE TO VICTIMS OR LEARN HOW TO BE TRAUMA INFORMED? THAT MONEY COULD BE USED FOR NON-PROFITS THAT COULD GIVE DISTRICT SERVICES. I DON'T UNDERSTAND CONSENT AGENDAS FOR ROBERT'S RULES, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE NON-CONTROVERSIAL STUFF. I WOULD SAY BUDGET STUFF IS CONTROVERSIAL. HOW DOES THE PUBLIC GET TO HAVE COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS BEFORE YOU VOTE ON IT? IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. THIS ITEM IS NOT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WHAT CONSTITUTES INITIATE? WHAT CONSTITUTES TRAINING? THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD BE IN THIS $680,000. >> THERESA FOLLOWED BY JAMES. JAMES FOLLOWED BY DAVID. >> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. I'M JAMES FROM DISTRICT FOUR. I WANTED TO CONTINUE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE POLICY FOR RESPONDING TO ENCAMPMENTS OPPUBLIC PROPERTY. I THINK ONE INTERESTING FACT IS EVERYTHING IS GOING TO GET LUMPED INTO TIER ONE OR PRIORITY ONE ENCAMPMENT. THE FACT THAT THERE'S 17 CHARACTERISTICS, YOU GO TO THE LETTER Q IN THE ALPHABET, EVERYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE USED TO DEFINE WHAT A PRIORITY ONE ENCAMPMENT IS. IT WAS INTERESTING, I WAS DOING AN INTERVIEW LAST WEEK AND THE REPORTER ASKED ME, WERE YOU WORRIED ABOUT GETTING SWEPT? WERE YOU WORRIED ABOUT GETTING YOUR ENCAMPMENT CLEARED IN 2016 AND 2017 WHEN YOU WERE HOMELESS? I HAD TO THINK ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SWEEPS IN 2016, 2017. ALL OF THIS IS REACTIONARY TO CORONADO PARK. CORONADO PARK WAS ENCAMPMENT ZERO. THE ADMINISTRATION CONTINUES TO REACT TO THE FAILED POLICIES THAT LED UP TO CORONADO PARK AND THIS CONTINUES WITH THIS DRAFT ENCAMPMENT PUBLIC PROPERTY DOCUMENT. AND WE'RE STILL NOT ADDRESSING THE UNDERLYING CAUSE. WHAT CAUSED CORONADO PARK TO HAPPEN? WHAT CAUSED HOMELESSNESS TO HAPPEN? WHY DOES IT CONTINUE TO HAPPEN? INSTEAD WE GET DRAFT REPORT AFTER DRAFT REPORT ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE MORE BRUTAL, MORE HEARTLESS, MORE INHUMANE TO THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY. IT SHOULD STOP. THANK YOU. >> DAVID FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> IT SEEMS LIKE THE CITY LIKES TO CAPTURE, CAGE, OR KILL ANY LIFE FORM IT LOOKS DOWN OR WASTES RESOURCES. WE CAN COEXIST BY REMOVING PROBLEM THAT WE CAUSED WITH -- FROM PIGEONS TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND EDUCATION. IT GETS CAUGHT IN ARGUING, WASTING TIME, WHILE GROUPS IN OUR CITY ARE WILLING TO PUT IN THAT EFFORT TO HAVE THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE LACK FUNDING. WE LACK RESOURCES AND WE KEEP BEING TOLD ANOTHER COMMITTEE, ANOTHER THIS. IT'S LIKE THANK YOU FOR, LIKE, DOING NOTHING, REALLY. I KEEP HEARING ABOUT ALL THESE PROGRAMS THEY DIDN'T WANT TO INTEND TO HELP BUT THEY DON'T MAKE IT OUT OF THIS BUILDING. AND AT LEAST TAKING CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT SUFFER. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE ANY PEOPLE BACKING THEM UP. AND THEY CAN'T ENJOY THEIR NOTHING IN PEACE? THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO I CARE ABOUT. THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO I LOVE. THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE. YET, WE'RE LIKE YOU CAN'T BE PEACEFUL HERE. WE WANT YOU GONE. AND IT'S JUST LIKE, VERY FUNNY, IT SEEMS LIKE WE CAUSE AN ISSUE LIKE THE PIGEONS AND WE CAUSE HOMELESSNESS WITHOUT PEOPLE PROPERLY KNOWING OUT THERE AND PUTTING FORT REAL EFFORTS AND WE CRY ABOUT IT AND ARGUE. IT'S JUST HEART-BREAKING BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME REITERATION OF NOTHING HAPPENING. AND IF YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING BETTER, IT'S NOT GOING TO NOT FIX. IT HURTS. IT BOTHERS ME. WE CAN DO BETTER. GIVE IT TO THE PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT HANDS THAT ARE THERE EVERYDAY SO WE KNOW HOW TO ASK THIS. WE KNOW THE PROPER PROBLEMS THAT ARISE BECAUSE WE'RE IN IT. AND IT LEADS TO NO GROWTH. >> TAD FOLLOWED BY RUDOLPH. >> DAN LEWIS IS GONE. WELL, MY NAME IS TAD. ANYWAY, THANKSGIVING AROUND THE CORNER. CHRISTMAS IS COMING. MORE CELEBRATION OF BIRTH OF JESUS CHRIST. NOW, JESUS CHRIST WHEN HE WAS BORN WAS WITHOUT HOUSING. HERE, SPEAKING ABOUT HOUSING AND SO ON, PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP CAME HERE. HE WAS WELCOME, CITY WAS DENYING CONVENTION CENTER. STATE, LUJAN DENIED, AGAIN, STATE FAIRGROUND. IF HIS WELCOME WAS IN ANGER, THAT IS WELCOME BY POLITICIAN HERE IN NEW MEXICO, CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. SHAME ON YOU. SHAME ON YOU. THAT'S DISGUSTING. WELCOME TO THE LAND OF ENCHANTMENT. THIS STATE SHOULD BE -- BELONGS TO THE MEXICO. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. THE PRESIDENT WILL REMEMBER A LONG TIME AND I -- CUT IT OFF. AND LOTS MORE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> RUDOLPH FOLLOWED BY -- >> PRESIDENT LEWIS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, HAPPY HOLIDAYS. YOU KNOW, IT'S TIME TO CALM DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND THINK ABOUT WHAT WE DO THIS YEAR. SAME THING FOR THE CITY. I'M GOING TO PUT MY GUARD DOWN A LITTLE BIT FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. AND HAPPY THANKSGIVING. NOT FOR SO MR. BALE. HE GOT SHOT IN THE HEAD IN CENTRAL. NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IT. EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO BLAME A BUSINESS OWNER FOR SOMETHING HE DID OR NOT. IT'S NOT NORMAL TO LIVE IN THE CITY WHERE YOU GO IN YOUR BUSINESS AND SOMEBODY COMES AND SHOOTS YOU IN THE HEAD. I THINK PIGEONS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO TALK OF. I BUILD A LITTLE SANCTUARY FOR MY MOTHER BEHIND THE BACKYARD AND I GOT LIKE 24 THAT COME. AND I HAVE SOME QUAIL THAT COME AFTER. AND THE CROWS START SHOWING UP. AND NOW THE NEIGHBORS HATE ME. IT'S LIKE HOW DO I MOVE THE CROWS WITHOUT AFFECTING THE PIGEONS. SO I START FEEDING THEM IN THE CORNER. IN THE FOLLOWING WEEK, I'M AT PARADISE AND GOLF COURSE, AND THE FOLLOWING WEEK I MOVE TO WALMART. AND NOW I FEED THEM AT COTTONWOOD AND NOW EVERYBODY IS HAPPY. MAYBE WE CAN DO THE SAME THING WITH THE PIGEONS. INSTEAD OF FEEDING THEM HERE SO THEY CAME, JUST FEED THEM AROUND AND TAKE THEM SLOWLY TO THE WOODS AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO KILL ANYBODY. THAT'S THE SPIRIT. I'LL SHARE IT WITH YOU GUYS. I'LL DO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE GEOPOLITICS NEXT WEEK. WE'RE GOING TO DO A REVIEW OF POLICY. IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY INTERESTING WHERE THE CHANGES ARE COMING. I'LL SHARE THAT WITH YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAPPY THANKSGIVING. >> JANICE FOLLOWED BY DIEGO. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I'M SPEAKING THIS EVENING AS A HEALTH PROMOTION SPECIALIST AT THE HEALTH EQUITY COUNCIL. OUR ORGANIZATION IS A PUBLIC HEALTH AUTHORITY FOR BERNALILLO COUNTY, AND AS YOU KNOW THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEALTH INITIATIVE, THE PHI RELEASES QUARTER POLICY. TO CLOSE OUT 2024, I BROUGHT A LATEST, WHICH I WILL CIRCULATE. I ALSO BROUGHT A FEW EXTRA COPIES IN CASE ANY PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE WOULD LIKE ONE. I PRESENT TO YOU, NUMBER ONE, STRATEGIC APPROACH TO CONTENT AND LOCAL ILLICIT DRUG SUPPLY. MITIGATING STRESS IN BERNALILLO COUNTY. ENHANCING FAMILY WELL BEING AND SUPPORT SERVICES. AND NUMBER THREE, ADDRESSING MATERNAL MORTALITY RATES. EACH OF THE POLICY REVIEWS INCLUDES RESEARCH INTO THE BACKGROUND OF THESE ISSUES, ANALYSIS OF LOCAL STATISTICS, AND EVIDENCE-BASED HEALTH SOLUTIONS. THERE ARE ALSO RECOMMENDATIONS WITH REFERENCES. OUR TEAM AT THE HEALTH EQUITY COUNCIL ENCOURAGES YOU TO REACH OUT FOR QUESTIONS OR POLICY SUPPORT NEEDED. SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO -- INCLUDE TESTING RESOURCES AND STRATEGY FOR COMMUNICATION PIPELINES TO INFORM PEOPLE WHEN IT AN OUTBREAK IS DETECTED. CULTURALLY COMPETENT MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS, AND EMPLOYMENT CHILD CARE ASSISTANCE, AND ACCESS TO SERVICES IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES. AND FINALLY, RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND MATERNAL MORTALITY INCLUDE ENHANCED DATA EVALUATION AND INCENTIVIZING HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS AND FOCUSING ACCESS EXPANSION IN HIGH PRIORITY AREAS WHERE THERE ARE GAPS. THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. I'LL GIVE YOU A SNEAK PEEK FOR NEXT QUARTER. WE'LL LOOK AT EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS, EXTREME HEAT AND EXTREME COLD. AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT NUTRITIONAL ACCESS ISSUES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, CAN WE GET ONE MORE COPY, PLEASE? >> YES. THANK YOU. >> DIEGO, FOLLOWED BY KAI. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, LAST FRIDAY I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO COMING DOWNTOWN TO ENJOY THE EVENING. I PARKED RIGHT HERE ON 3rd STREET. I WALKED DOWN THE SIDE WALK TO TIJERAS, I WAITED FOR THE LIGHT TO TURN. THERE WERE NO CARS ANYWHERE. THERE WERE PEOPLE, LOTS OF PEOPLE, BUT NO CARS ANYWHERE. I CROSSED THE STREET AT SEVEN SECONDS A POLICE CAR TAKES A QUICK LEFT-HAND TURN GOING 25 MILES AN HOUR, AND I WAS SHOCKED. IT WAS LIKE A FOOT FROM ME. AND NEXT 20 FEET BEHIND THAT CAR, ANOTHER POLICE CAR CAME AND HIT ME. THEY WENT DOWN TO THE NEXT LIGHT AND THEY BOTH STOPPED, AND I STAYED ON THE INTERSECTION YELLING AT THEM. AND THEY DID NOT RETURN. THEY DID NOT CIRCLE THE BLOCK. AND THE PEOPLE I WAS WITH SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HANG AROUND BECAUSE THEY WERE AFRAID THAT THOSE TWO POLICE PEOPLE WOULD COME BACK AGAIN. SO, WE WENT TO THE NEW RESTAURANT DOWNTOWN THAT WE WERE PLANNING TO EAT AT, AND THEN WE WENT TO OUR SHOW AND WE GOT OUT OF DOWNTOWN. IT REALLY IS DISCOURAGING. AND WE CALLED THE POLICE AND SATURDAY AFTERNOON THEY HAD TWO OFFICERS COME TO OUR HOUSE. AND THEY REALLY DIDN'T SEEM VERY -- I DON'T THINK THEY BELIEVED ME. I TOLD THEM THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO VIDEO AND ALSO THEY KNOW WHERE THE POLICE CARS ARE AT AT ANY MOMENT OF TIME AND THEY CAN TRACK THE GPS OF THE POLICE CARS. AND I THINK THE POLICE CARS HAVE VIDEO. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE DOWNTOWN AND THESE ARE THE EXPERIENCES OF THE PEOPLE. OF COURSE, ANOTHER BUSINESS OWNER GOT SHOT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, SIR. DO WE HAVE -- IS THERE A REPORT ON THIS? HAVE WE HEARD OF THIS? HANG ON, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK DEPUTY CHIEF GREIGO CAN RESPOND. I BELIEVE THERE'S A POLICE REPORT. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WE DID GET CALL AND FILED A POLICE REPORT. WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE -- WE DID RESPOND AND TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE GENTLEMEN. WE DO HAVE POLICE REPORT AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE CAMERAS TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, SIR. >> KAI FOLLOWED BY JAMES ON ZOOM. >> PRESIDENT LEWIS, OTHER COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I AM KAI, PRESIDENT OF THE ALBUQUERQUE INDIAN CENTER. I'M AN AMERICAN INDIAN. AND AN URBAN INDIAN. I'VE BEEN IN THIS TOWN SINCE 1980. I'M STILL KICKING. WE AT THE ALBUQUERQUE INDIAN CENTER, WE'RE LOCATED AT 105 TEXAS SOUTHEAST, WHICH IS IN THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT. THE AIC HAS SERVED AS A NONPROFIT FOR 34 YEARS, OF WHICH, 32 HAS BEEN AS A 501C3. OVER THESE YEARS, I WANT TO THANK MAYOR KELLER, WHO HAS FAITHALLY HELPED WITH AIC, AND HE DOES BELIEVING IN THE MISSION BECAUSE WHEN TIMES ARE TOUGH HE HAS BEEN HELPFUL TO US. WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO REPORT THAT. WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY HELD OUR THANKSGIVING MEAL, WHICH WE NORMALLY SERVE ABOUT 400 CLIENTS, AND WE'LL DO THAT AGAIN NEXT WEEK ON THE 27th FROM 11:00 TO 1 # -- 1:00. WE'D INVITE YOU ALL TO COME, IF YOU CAN MAKE IT. I REMEMBER IN THE PAST WHEN YOU HAVE PAT DAVIS AND DEBBIE O'MALLEY WHEN THEY PUT HAIR NETS ON AND SERVE THE CLIENTS. THAT WAS REALLY GOOD. THE CLIENTS REALLY APPRECIATED HAVING THESE PEOPLE HERE TO HELP THEM. NOW, WE SERVE ABOUT 200 CLIENTS PER DAY, TODAY, DURING THE TIME. AND MOST OF OUR CLIENTS ARE UNHOUSED, ADDICTED, THEY EXPERIENCE POVERTY. AND THE FOOD THAT WE FEED THEM IS VERY EXPENSIVE AND WE DO NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO CONTINUE. A LOT OF OUR CLIENTS ARE NATIVE-AMERICAN. I THINK WE HAVE 70% NAVAJO AND 20% PUEBLO, AND THE REST CAN BE OTHER PEOPLE. AND, BASICALLY, WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU -- WE'RE STILL THERE. AND WE WOULD LIKE ANY KIND OF HELP YOU CAN GIVE US. THANK YOU. >> JAMES FOLLOWED BY JOHN. >> THIS IS JAMES. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? >> WE CAN HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON O-49, WHICH IS TO ESTABLISH A BOUNDARY AREA ADVISORY COMMITTEE RELATED TO ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE. IN GENERAL, I SUPPORT THIS, BUT I WOULD QUESTION WHY THIS BILL WAS LIMITED ONLY TO AREAS WHERE THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND BERNALILLO COUNTY ARE ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER. THERE'S INADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE PROBABLY IN EVERY DISTRICT, BUT ESPECIALLY PREVALENT ON THE WEST SIDE. THE CIP, CURRENTLY, AND FOR MANY YEARS, HAS INCENTIVIZED PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE 1980 CITY BOUNDARIES. THAT'S 45 YEARS OLD. AND EXCLUDES ALMOST ALL OF THE WEST SIDE. NOT ALL, BUT ALMOST ALL. THAT'S ONE REASON THE -- WHEN WE PASSED THE VOLCANO HEIGHTS SECTOR PLAN IN 2013, COUNCILOR LEWIS INCLUDED -- CONCLUDED, SAYING IT'S A LONG PROCESS AND WE NEED TO STAY INVOLVED OF THE PLAN SPECIFICALLY IN REGARD TO INFRASTRUCTURE. UNFORTUNATELY, THE ADMINISTRATION AND DMD HAVEN'T FOLLOWED THE VISION OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE DEFICIENCIES IN STORM DRAINAGE IN THE AREA. SPECIFICALLY, REGARDING STORM DRAIN LINE DOWN UNSER BOULEVARD WHICH WAS FORMALLY LION, TO PARADISE HILLS. IT WAS BROUGHT TO THE CITY'S ATTENTION BEFORE THEY PAVED A PART OF UNSER THAT NEVER HAD A CAR ON IT NEXT TO THE BOULDER SUBDIVISION. IT'S NEVER BEEN FIXED. IT'S RESULTED IN CHANGING PLANS AND LOCATIONS. ITS A MESS. REGARDING UNSER AND PASEO, THEY'RE BEING EXPANDED. THE CITY'S PUBLIC MEETING SHOWED TWO PONDS. THE SECOND POND IS CALLED POND TWO. THEY'RE ARGUING ABOUT TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION TO LAST TWO YEARS, AND THAT TIME WHICH WAS SHOWN AT THAT PUBLIC MEETING AND INCLUDED AN ENVIRONMENTAL APPLICATION DOCUMENT NOW MYSTERIOUSLY DISAPPEARED FROM THE UNSER-PASEO WEBSITE AND IS NOT PART OF THE PROJECT. >> THANK YOU, JAMES. >> THEY'RE BOTH SLOW FOR SEWER AND STORM DRAIN. CITY AND WATER AUTHORITY AREN'T FOLLOWING THE WATER AUTHORITY POLICY WHICH IS VERY CLEAR. POLICY THREE. WATER AND/OR SANITARY SEWER LINES REQUIRE -- >> THANK YOU, JAMES. YOUR TIME IS UP. UP NEXT WE HAVE JOHN FOLLOWED BY NATTILY. THANK YOU. >> HELLO. CAN YOU SEE ME? >> YES, WE CAN. >> HOW ARE YOU TODAY? COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I'M HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE LACK OF IT. AS HE STATED, NOT JUST IN THE BORDER AREAS, BUT THOSE AREAS ON THE WEST SIDE OF ALBUQUERQUE. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT INTERESTING POLICY THERE. WHERE THE WATER AUTHORITY, POLICY THREE, SAYS NO ROAD SHALL GO IN UNTIL WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES ARE IN PLACE. YOU'RE SPENDING $50 MILLION JUST TO DO THE OPPOSITE. THERE'S A LACK OF COORDINATION. I THINK A COMMITTEE MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA, I'M NOT SURE OF THE ACCOUNTABILITY IN THAT POLICIES OF THAT COMMITTEE COULD FURTHER SLOW DOWN THE PROGRESS OF THE CITY. MY CONCERN IS THERE IS UNNECESSARY COORDINATION AND I'M NOT SURE A COMMITTEE IS GOING TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM UNLESS THERE'S A MECHANISM WITHIN THAT COMMITTEE. THE PROBLEM WITH THE STORM DRAINS BEING UNDERSIZED, IMPROPER ELEVATION, PLANS GETTING DELAYED, WE'RE DECADES BEHIND IN MANY AREAS. I HOPE THE COMMITTEE WOULD NOT DELAY THEM, BUT ACTUALLY SPEED THINGS UP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. >> UP NEXT, NATALIE. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> PLEASE PROCEED. >> I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MY CAMERA. GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. MY COMMENT IS ABOUT THE NEW ENCAMPMENT POLICY. I'M A -- THIS NEW POLICY IS THE LEAST YOU CAN DO FOR THE FAILURE AND NEGLECT YOU'VE SHOWN FOR DISTRICT SIX. YOU'VE SHOWN LITTLE CONCERN WHEN IT CAME TO THEIR SAFETY AND WELL BEING. HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED HOW THE CHILDREN WHO ARE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR SOCIETY ARE BEING DIRECTLY AFFECTED? I'M SPEAKING ABOUT THE CHILDREN WHO GO TO SCHOOL LESS THAN A MILE FROM THE HOMELESS FACILITY IN THE AREA. OUR CHILDREN ARE NEGLECTED BY THE CITY. THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS OTHER CHILDREN IN THE CITY. NO ONE ACKNOWLEDGES OR CARES ABOUT ALL THE SACRIFICES THEY MADE. THEY HAVE NO ACCESS TO GREEN SPACE. THE PARKS ARE CLOSED. OR THEY HAVE BECOME UNSAFE FOR OUR CHILDREN TO PLAY IN. HOW DANGEROUS IT IS FOR THEM TO WALK TO SCHOOL BECAUSE OF THE LITTERED SIDE WALK AND THE MENTALLY UNWELL PEOPLE TO BE CLOSE TO SCHOOLS. WE HAVE CHILDREN HARASSED BY THE UNHOUSED PEOPLE. THE CHILDREN DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO GROCERY STORES. NO ONE WANTS TO HELP WITH THE CRISIS. AND NO ONE WANTS -- THESE CHILDREN DESERVE BETTER. THEY HAVE TAKEN A BACK-SEAT TO THE HOMELESS CRISIS. PLEASE PROVIDE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO THE AREAS THAT ARE TRYING TO HELP OUR CHILDREN SUCCEED. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: AWAY GO TO APPROVALS. REQUEST AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATE FUND FOR SERVICE AGREEMENT AND ENDEAVOR FOR RECOVERY SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS OVERCOMING SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDERS. THIS IS JUST COMMUNICATION TO ACCEPT. I MOVE APPROVAL. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? OKAY. >> YES, MR. PRESIDENT. WE HAVE JANICE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> HI, THERE. CHANGING GEARS, NOW SPEAKING AS RESIDENT OF DISTRICT TWO. THIS IS CONCERNING EC-24-242 REQUEST AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATED FUNDS FOR SOCIAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH ENDEAVORS. I WANTED TO RELAY THAT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ENDEAVORS. AS A LOCAL SOCIAL SERVICE TREATMENT PROVIDING ORGANIZATION. I'M JUST CURIOUS IF SIMILAR TO THE CONTRACT THAT IS GOING TO THE OPERATIONS FOR FOLKS UNDER 60 AT THE WEHC, OR -- WEST SIDE SHELTER WHATEVER WE CALL IT. FOR BRINGING ANOTHER OUTSIDE OF THE STATE ORGANIZATION TO COME HERE AND PICK UP THESE HIGH-DOLLAR CONTRACTS FOR LOCAL SOCIAL SERVICES. YOU KNOW, IT REPRESENTS A GAP IN OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR OURSELVES. THE $1.7 MILLION CONTRACT, IF I'M READING IT CORRECTLY, LOOKS AS IT MIGHT BE PULLING FROM OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS, WHICH IS ANOTHER BIG AREA OF MINE. I HAVE SAT IN NUMEROUS SURVEYS, FOCUS GROUPS, TOWN HALLS, IN REGARD TO THOSE SETTLEMENT FUNDS AND I REPEATEDLY HEARD CALL FOR A DASHBOARD, WEBSITE, THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH FUNDS ARE RELEASED, HOW MUCH WE RECEIVE YEAR BY YEAR, WHERE IT'S SPENT AND WHO IS GETTING IT. AND A TOOL COULD GO TO SUBMIT FEEDBACK TO SAY I GOT SERVICES FROM THIS ENDEAVORS ORGANIZATION AND IT WAS GREAT, OR IT WAS BAD AND THIS IS WHAT I DIDN'T LIKE. SO WE CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF REPORT CARD FOR THE AGENCIES WE'RE GIVING THOSE OPIOID FUNDS TO AS WELL. I'M ASKING, PLEASE, JUST CONSIDER PUMPING THE BREAKS A LITTLE BIT AND LISTEN TO WHAT THE PUBLIC IS ASKING FOR IN TERMS OF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND MAKE THESE THINGS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC IN A REALLY APPARENT WAY. THANK YOU. >> THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. THIS IS EC-242. MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS. I AGREE WITH WHAT SHE JUST SAID AS WELL. WHAT IS THE TEMPORARY VISION FOR WHAT ENDEAVORS IS GOING TO BE DOING? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I THINK MR. VERPLOEGH CAN SPEAK TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS CONTRACT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THIS CONTRACT WITH ENDEAVORS IS TO BEABLY TO PROVIDE SUBSTANCE USE SERVICES AND HELPING NAVIGATION AND STABILIZATION FOR CLIENTS WHO HAVE A SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER AND EXPERIENCING BEING UNSHELTERED. >>COUN. BASSAN: SAY THAT AGAIN. SUBSTANCE USE SERVICES. >> SUBSTANCE USE SERVICES, CLINICAL SERVICES, CASE MANAGEMENT, HOUSING NAVIGATION, PEER SUPPORT SERVICES. IT WILL BE A WRAPAROUND SERVICE TO BE ABLE TO HELP CLIENTS WHO HAVE BEEN CHRONICALLY UNSHELTERED AND EXPERIENCING A SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER TO STABILIZE AND GET HOUSED LONG-TERM. >>COUN. BASSAN: WHILE I'M THINKING ABOUT IT, I THINK USING SOME OF THE OPIOID FUNDS FOR IN-PATIENT TREATMENT SOMEWHERE WOULD BE IDEAL. BUT, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR ENDEAVORS AND FOR EVEN THIS PROPERTY AND ALL OF THE THINGS AFTER THE EXPIRATION OF JUNE 30th, IT'S A REAL SHORT TURNAROUND FOR WHAT THIS CONTRACT IS. IT SAYS IT EXPIRES JUNE 30th, THEN WHAT? >> AS LONG AS THEY'RE DOING WELL AND MEETING CONTRACT OBLIGATIONS, WE'D LIKE TO CONTRACT WITH THEM FOR THE NEXT YEAR. >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY. AND DOES THAT MEAN THE ADMIN -- ARE YOU CONSIDERING, IF THINGS ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND BUDGET SEASON IS A COUPLE MONTHS AWAY, THIS IS GOING TO BE WORKED INTO THE REGULAR BUDGET OR ARE YOU PULLING MORE OPIOID FUNDS, WHAT'S THE NEXT VISION FOR THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I THINK WE HAVE THE INTENTION OF BRINGING TO YOU ALL THOSE ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION. THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS, SPECIFICALLY THE RECOMMENDATION DOCUMENTS YOU HAVE RECEIVED PREVIOUSLY, I THINK IT WAS AT THE LAST MEETING, WE HAD THE PRESENTATION AND FOLKS WERE DISCUSSING IT. WE KNOW RECOVERY SUPPORT AND RECOVERY HOUSING SUPPORT IS INCLUDED IN THIS RECOMMENDATION. IT IS AN SEARCH ELEMENT TO THE OPIOID CRISIS. WE KNOW THAT THINKING THROUGH THIS WILL BE AN IMPORTANT NEXT FOR ALL OF US. FOR OUR FY26 BUDGET AND APPROPRIATIONS FROM THE OPIOID FUNDS. WE COME WITH A FULL DISCLOSURE OF HOW THAT WORKS, OR WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT AS WE'VE BEEN MARCHING THROUGH THE LAST -- I'VE BEEN HERE A YEAR, WE'VE BEEN MARCHING THROUGH THESE TOPICS OVER THE LAST YEAR, IT'S WITH FULL KNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE SETTLEMENT FUNDS TO CONSIDER AND ENSURE WE'RE PROVIDING SUPPORTIVE SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE THINKING THROUGH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ISSUES AND I THINK THE VITAL STRATEGIES REPORTS SPEAKS TO THOSE FACTORS. I AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN, IN-PATIENT SUPPORT AND TREATMENT IS GOING TO BE PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. I THINK WE HAVE A BIGGER DISCUSSION THAN ONE CONTRACT AT A TIME TO HAVE, AND THAT'S OUR INTENT TO DO SO. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, I DO HOPE THAT MAYBE A DASHBOARD CAN GET CREATED. THAT'S BRILLIANT. IT SHOULDN'T BE HARD IN THIS WORLD OF TECHNOLOGY, FOR US AS COUNCILORS, FOR THE RESIDENTS IN ALBUQUERQUE, FOR PEOPLE SEEKING TREATMENT, ALL OF THAT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TOO FANCY. JUST FUNCTIONAL. ALSO, MY LAST ONE, MR. PRESIDENT, IS HOW DID THE DEPARTMENT DETERMINE THAT ENDEAVORS WAS THE MOST APPROPRIATE AND BEST PROVIDER FOR THIS SERVICE? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE AN RFP WENT OUT AND UPON READING THROUGH EVERYTHING -- IT SEEMS LIKE PERHAPS IT WAS THROWN THAT COUNCIL DIDN'T REQUIRE IT, THEREFORE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. I WANT SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THIS IS A SPECIFIC SERVICE FOR -- THE AGENCY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE CLINICAL SUPPORT, THE MEDICAL SUPPORT, THE CASE MANAGEMENT SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS UNSHELTERED POPULATION AND THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE POPULATION. AND OUR PERSPECTIVE THERE WAS NOT A PROVIDER LOCALLY THAT WAS ABLE TO DO THIS AT THIS TIME. WE DO OUR BEST TO BUILD UP OUR NON-PROFIT PROVIDERS HERE AND WE'RE REALLY STRUGGLING TO FIND GROUPS THAT ARE ABLE TAKE ON THESE CONTRACTS IN THIS WAY BECAUSE OF THE URGENCY OF THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC AND BECAUSE OF THE URGENCY OF THE HOUSING CRISIS, WE REACHED OUT TO PARTNERS. WE BELIEVE THIS FALLS UNDER THE PROCUREMENT RULE WE DISCUSSED IN THE FEEDBACK FOR YOU GUYS. WE REACHED OUT TO SOME NATIONAL PROVIDERS, AND THE PILOT SHELTER WHO WE PURCHASED THE PELLET FROM RECOMMENDED THIS PROVIDER SPECIFICALLY. THEY SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL, AND AFTER REVIEW WE THOUGHT WITH 55 YEARS IN EXPERIENCE WITH THIS SPECIFIC TYPE OF SERVICE, BECAUSE THEY WERE ACCREDITED AND THEY KNOW THE TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE, WE FELT THEY WERE THE BEST AT THIS TIME FOR THE SERVICE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, DOES THAT MEAN THAT ENDEAVORS SPECIALIZED IN OPIOID TREATMENT OR JUST TRAUMA-INFORMED TREATMENT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THIS PROVIDER IS EXPERIENCED IN PROVIDING SHELTER SUPPORT FOR UNSHELTERED POPULATION WITH A SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER. BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE KIN -- AND ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE WITH PEER SUPPORTS AND THE CASE MANAGEMENT AND THE CLINICAL SUPPORT THAT'S NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE SERVICES. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH THAT. I'M HEARING PALLET SUPPORT, AND SPECIALIZING IN PALLET HOMES. I DIDN'T LIKE THE IDEA OF BRINGING THIS BACK, PALLET HOMES. I KNOW MY CONSTITUENCY DOESN'T LIKE IT EITHER. I TRIED TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE WE TALKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT OPIOID TREATMENT. AND HOW THE OPIOID FUNDS WOULD BE FOR OPIATE RECOVERY TREATMENT. I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FOCUSING THESE FUNDS SPECIFICALLY ON OPIOID SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT AND RECOVERY, NOT AN -- I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S NOT A NEED, BUT THERE'S FUNDING ALLOCATED SPECIFICALLY FOR SOMETHING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE TURNING IT INTO AN OVERREACHING UMBRELLA. I'M NOT A FIRM BELIEVER THAT WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT EXPANDING THINGS WHEN WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THINGS THAT ARE SPECIFIC. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR BASSAN, JUST TO TOUCH ON THAT. THE LANDSCAPE RIGHT NOW SHOWS THAT THERE'S -- YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A PUREST APPROACH TO ANY OF THESE. ALCOHOL STILL BEING THE NUMBER ONE SUBSTANCE THAT IS TRAGICALLY KILLING OUR COMMUNITY IN NEW MEXICO. IF YOU LOOK AT THE STUDIES, WE'LL WORK WITH OUR PROVIDER TO MAKE SURE THAT OPIOID IS A PRIORITY. IT'S VERY COMMON THAT YOU'LL SEE OPIOID AND OTHER SUBSTANCE USE. THAT'S WHAT POLY SUBSTANCE USE MEANS. SO, THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE FOCUS OF THIS COMMUNITY. WHICH IS DIFFERENT. RECOVERY HOUSING, AND THE LANDSCAPE FOR RECOVERY HOUSING REALLY DOES LOOK AT LONG-TERM HOUSING THAT MOVES YOU AWAY FROM THE ENVIRONMENT WHICH THERE'S TEMPTATION TO REUSE. BUILDING AND STANDING UP, THAT IS PART OF WHAT WE HEARD EARLIER, WHICH IS URGENCY TO ADDRESS IT. AND WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT AFTER WE PUT OUT THE RFP FOR MEDICAL SOBERING TWICE AND WE HAD MINIMAL RESPONSE. IT WAS ONE PROVIDER FROM OUT OF STATE, THE LANDSCAPING HAS BEEN DEVASTATED LOCALLY. HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS LEAVING OUR STATE. WE DID OUR BEST TO VET AND LOOK AT THE EXPERTS ACROSS THE NATION TO BUILD THIS OUT. WE'LL TRACK THIS CLOSELY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE -- I'D BE LYING IF WE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE POURLY OPIOID USE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE POLY SUBSTANCE USE. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M NOT SEEING PALLET HOUSING. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE AGREED TO. WE HEARD THAT IF WE AGREED TO ANY KIND OF PALLET HOME, IT WAS GOING TO BE SPECIFICALLY FOR OPIOID SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT AND RECOVERY. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS FOR. THAT'S MY BIG CONCERN. IT'S ON THE RECORD, LOUD AND CLEAR, FOR MOST PEOPLE TO HEAR. I KNOW THERE'S A BIG NEED. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT AND HOUSING NEEDS, BUT THIS ONE WAS VERY SPECIFIC. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILOR BACA, COUNCILOR ROGERS, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. SHE ASKED A COUPLE OF MY QUESTIONS. THE THIRD QUESTION I HAVE WOULD BE IS THE CONTRACTOR GOING TO BILL MEDICAID FOR REIMBURSEMENT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, IT'S OUR INTENTION FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH THEMSELVES HERE AND SET THAT UP TO BE ABLE TO GET MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT. THAT DOES TAKE SOME TIME. UNDERSTANDING THAT TYPICALLY MOST MEDICAID ORGANIZATIONS WILL OFFER 25%. SHOULD THAT BE FULLY LEVERAGED TO THE 25%, THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS WILL BE MADE ACCORDINGLY. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS? COULD YOU TAKE US THROUGH -- YOU'RE GOING TO MEET THEM WHERE THEY ARE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SUBSTANCE USE ISSUES. DOES THAT MEAN THEY GET TO CONTINUE USING THOSE DRUGS AND SO FORTH? TELL ME HOW IT WORKS. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT YES. RECOVERY HOUSING IS FOCUSED ON MAINTAINING SOBRIETY FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT COME OUT OF DETOX. DETOX CAN BE A LONG PROCESS, INDIVIDUALS CAN CYCLE THROUGH THAT. ONCE THEY'RE IN A PLACE TO SUSTAIN RECOVERY, PUTTING FULL WRAPAROUND SERVICES AND A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR THEM TO LIVE WHILE THEY'RE IN THAT CRISIS IS CRUCIAL. WHAT WE LEARNED THROUGH HUD AND SAMSA IS EVERY MUNICIPALITY SHOULD HAVE A PLAN THAT INCLUDES RECOVERY HOUSING AS PART OF THE PLAN. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THAT DIRECTION TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE. THE DURATION IS DEPENDENT PAWN INDIVIDUALS. WE KNOW IF YOU GET 18 TO 24 MONTHS OF SOBRIETY YOU HAVE LESS CHANCE OF USING AGAIN. NOW, MOST RECOVERY HOUSES INTEGRATE TRANSITIONAL LIVING SKILLS LIKE PAYING A PORTION OF RENT. WE UNDERSTAND THEY MAY GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, LET'S SAY, BY STARTING 30% MONTHLY AND BUILDING ON WHILE THEY'RE BUILDING SKILLS TO MOVE TO PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTION. IT'S A TEMPORARY SPACE, BUT ALSO HAVE THE WRAPAROUND SERVICES TO AVOID RECIDIVISM. >>COUN. GROUT: SO, MR. PRESIDENT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW DRUGS AND ALCOHOL INTO THAT ENVIRONMENT, CORRECT? >> PRESIDENT LEWIS, COUNCILOR GROUT, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE A RECOVERY ENVIRONMENT. I WON'T SAY THAT A CLIENT WON'T HAVE AN INCIDENT THAT WILL GET DEALT WITH BY THE ORGANIZATION. THAT IS THE GOAL IS TO SUPPORT RECOVERY. >>COUN. GROUT: I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS TO FOLLOW UP ON MEDICARE. ARE THEY ACCREDITED BY THE JOINT COMMISSION ENDEAVORS? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR GROUT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE -- CREDITED, WHICH IS VERY INTENSE ACCREDITATION TO HAVE AS AN ENTITY. AS THEY ESTABLISH HERE, WE EXPECT THEIR HISTORY AND BACKGROUND, AND WE CAN SEND YOU DETAILS FOR THEIR ACCREDITATION. CARF. I CAN SEND YOU THE INFORMATION. >>COUN. GROUT: BECAUSE THEY NEED THAT TO BE ABLE TO BILL MEDICAID. THEY CAN'T DO IT. OKAY. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR THIS, RIGHT? THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST WANT TO -- WHEN THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION TO PLACE A PELLET DISTRICT IN DISTRICT TWO, I HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS DESPITE KNOWING THE NEED. ACROSS THE BOARD, ESPECIALLY CONSTITUENT BACKLASH, AS I'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS GETTING THE PROCUREMENT FOR THE VILLAGE ITSELF AND NOW FINDING ADDICTION SERVICES, AND IT'S A SOMEWHAT UNIQUE SITUATION. ACROSS THE BOARD, CONSTITUENTS AND OTHERS I TALKED TO, IT IS THAT WE FULLY SUPPORT THAT. I THOUGHT IT WAS THE OTHER WAY. BUT THE IDEA OF ADDICTION TREATMENT, WHICH WE NEEDED SINCE FIVE YEARS AGO, TO BE HONEST THE FACT THIS IS HAPPING IN LESS THAN A YEAR, AND IT'S IN THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT, I'M IMPRESSED. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S MORE TO BE DONE. AND WE HAVE TO DO SOME OVERSIGHT ON THAT. AND EWE TALK ABOUT MY VERY FIRST MEMORIAL WAS COMPETENCY. AND ONE OF MY BIGGEST CRITIQUES IS IF WE PASS THIS, WE CAN'T SEND PEOPLE ANYWHERE. WE HAVE TO HAVE PLACES FOR TREATMENT. WE 100% KNOW THAT. THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOW MAKING THIS HAPPEN, I'M -- THE VILLAGE WILL BE HERE IN LESS THAN A YEAR IDEALLY. WE HAVE A PROVIDER READY TO GO FOR SOMETHING THAT WE ABSOLUTELY NEED IN THE COMMUNITY. AND DISTRICT TWO CONSTITUENTS, ACROSS THE BOARD, I HAVE YET TO HEAR SOMEONE SAY THIS IS A BAD IDEA. AND IT'S ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT COMES UP MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. I URGE EVERYBODY'S SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR ROGERS, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR GROUT ASKED ABOUT MEDICAID, YOUR CONTRACT ACTUALLY SAYS THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO BILL FOR MEDICAID. ON PAGE 19, THE CONTRACTOR SHALL MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO BILL MEDICAID FOR ELIGIBLE SERVICES. IT SAYS THE CONTRACTOR MUST SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO BECOME A NEW MEXICO MEDICAID PROVIDER WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF THE CONTRACT START DATE, WITHIN 30 DAYS OF SUBMISSION THE CONTRACT WILL PROVIDE THE CITY WITH UPDATE. IF THEY'RE ALREADY ABLE TO BILL, WHY DID WE PUT THAT IN THE CONTRACT? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR ROGERS, AS AN OUTSIDE STATE ENTITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A -- OUR EXPECTATION IS THEY WILL BILL AS THEY'RE SET UP. >>COUN. ROGERS: YOU JUST SAID THAT THEY WERE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, DR. VERPLOEGH SAID WE'RE EXPECTING THEM TO GET ESTABLISHED. >>COUN. ROGERS: PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT OUR DIALOGUE WITHOUT GOING TO THE CHAIR. I EXPECT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS TO FOLLOW THOSE RULES AS WELL. SECOND QUESTION, I PUT MYSELF OUT ON THE LIMB VOTING FOR THIS AS THE CHAIR OF LOCAL COORDINATING COMMITTEE WITH THE COUNTY, CITY, AND APS. BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WE WOULD NOT SPEND THIS FUNDING UNTIL WE HAD A PLAN. I TRUSTED WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT SUBSTANCE ABUSE, A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH SAYS HERE'S WHAT WE DO. OUR COMMUNITY-BASED SERVICES PROGRAMS PROVIDE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, CASE MANAGEMENT, PROFESSIONAL COUNSELING, LIFE SKILLS TRAINING, AND HERE ARE THE SERVICES WE CAN HELP YOU WITH. JOB SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, HOME STUDY REPORT SERVICES, HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION AND HOMELESS ASSISTANCE, AND ENDEAVORS UNLIMITED EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY. IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT SUBSTANCE ABUSE, AT ALL. YOUR CONTRACT ALSO, READING THROUGH ALL THE PAGES OF THE CONTRACT, ASKS FOR THEM TO HAVE ON STAFF PEER SUPPORT SPECIALISTS, WELLNESS SPECIALISTS, LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS, IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT SUBSTANCE ABUSE COUNSELORS. IT TALKS ABOUT THE DELIVERERABLES AND SCOPE OF SERVICES AND REALLY IT'S JUST HAVE AN INTAKE FOR FOLKS COMING IN. 100% OF CLIENTS HAVE TO HAVE A TREATMENT PROGRAM WHEN THEY COME INTO THE PROGRAM, AGAIN, NO TREATMENT STAFF LISTED IN YOUR CONTRACT. WHO WILL BE PROVIDING SUBSTANCE ABUSE SERVICES? ARE THEY GOING TO CONTRACT OUT FOR THAT? BECAUSE THEIR OWN WEBSITE DOES NOT SAY THEY PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THE MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIANS ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDING THAT SUPPORT. THEY'LL BE EXPERIENCED IN SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDER. PEERS PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF SERVICE. PEERS ARE THE ONES WE WANT TO BRING, AND WE WANT THEM TO WORK WITH THE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE MOST EXPERIENCED IN THAT AREA AND HAVE LIVED EXPERIENCE. I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE EASY ENOUGH TO REQUIRE IN THEIR ENOUGH COUNSELORS THAT THEY BRING NMLAA, IF THAT MAKES YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE, WE CAN DO THAT. >>COUN. ROGERS: IT'S NOT MY COMFORTABLE, IT'S ABOUT DOING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. I PUT MYSELF ON A LIMB TO DO THIS AS THE CHAIR THAT WE WOULDN'T SPEND THE MONEY UNTIL WE HAVE HAD A PLAN. IT'S DISAPPOINTING -- I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR BACA, WE NEED THIS, BUT WE NEED TO DO IT RIGHT. AND WE NEED TO HAVE THE SERVICES WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ON-SITE, AND THE PROVIDER FROM TEXAS ISN'T OFFERING SUBSTANCE ABUSE SERVICES BECAUSE IT'S ON THEIR WEBSITE. AND YOU SAID WE DIDN'T HAVE LOCAL PROVIDERS THAT CAN DO THIS. WE ABSOLUTELY DO. ESPECIALLY THE PROVIDER THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THEIR CONTRACT FOR THE DROP-IN CENTER FROM HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER. WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS LOCALLY THAT CAN HELP WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. I JUST NEEDED TO EXPRESS THAT I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE I DIDN'T GET THE FULL PICTURE. I SAT DOWN WITH COUNCILOR BACA, WITH THE ADMINISTRATION THREE OR FOUR MEETINGS TALKING ABOUT THIS. NOW, I SEE IT IN PAPER AND IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE NOT DOING WHAT WE SAID WE'RE WERE GOING TO DO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST OFF, LET MY START BY SAYING THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED. IT'S APPARENT THERE ARE A PERCENTAGE OF UNHOUSED AND HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT ARE ADDICTED FOR THIS. AND THE SERVICES AND THE IDEA AND THOUGHT AND HEART OF IT IS SOMETHING THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING NEEDS TO BE DONE. OBVIOUSLY, BY THE AMOUNT OF QUESTIONS WE'VE HAD TONIGHT, SOME OF MY OWN, I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE TIME WITH THIS. I'M GOING TO MAKE MOTION TO DEFER FOR TWO WEEKS ON THIS. AND SUBMITTED A SERIES OF QUESTIONS TO THE ADMINISTRATION BASED ON NOT THE SERVICES YOU'RE PROVIDING BUT THE LOCATION THIS IS GOING. I GOT A RESPONSE THAT I'LL GET ME ANSWERS BACK LATER THIS WEEK AFTER THIS VOTE. AFTER THIS MEETING IT WOULD BE ANSWERED LATER THIS WEEK. I MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER UP THE I GET ANSWERS TO THIS QUESTIONS THAT I SUBMITTED. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION TO DEFER. SECOND BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. DEFERRAL IS ON THE TABLE, BUT WE'LL GO TO THE OTHERS THAT WERE WANTING TO SPEAK. SO COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, AND COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WILL WITHHOLD MY QUESTIONS THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OR FOLKS FROM HHH. IF A DEFERRAL FOR TWO WEEKS -- WHAT WILL THAT DO FOR THE TIMELINE FOR OPENING THIS FACILITY? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD JUST DELAY THE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR US TO BE ABLE TO START THE PROJECT, GET THEM ONBOARDED AND BRING THEM INTO FINALIZE THE CONTRACT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE TIMELINE YOU PUT FORWARD, AND COUNCILOR BACA, RIGHT, IT'S REALLY FAST. THAT WOULD BE DELAYED BY TWO WEEKS? OR WOULD THAT CAUSE A LONGER DELAY? >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, TWO WEEKS JUST ON THE APPROVAL PROCESS AND IT IS A PROCESS TO GET THEM ONBOARD, IT DROP THE SCOPE AND EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND ALLOW THEM TO STAFF UP AND BRING EVERYTHING NEEDED HERE. I THINK YOUR LOOKING AT A DELAY THAT CAN TRANSLATE INTO A MONTH OR MORE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS ONE IS REALLY HARD. I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS WE NEED THESE SERVICES. I SUPPORT THIS, IN CONCEPT. I HAVE NOT LIKED HOW IT'S BEEN DONE SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING. AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK A FEW QUESTIONS SO I CAN DECIDE IF I CAN WANT TO SUPPORT THE DEFERRAL. THIS IS ASKING FOR $1.8 MILLION. WHERE IS IT COMING FROM? IT WAS -- YOU HAVE $4.8 MILLION ALLOCATED IN R-22-91, WHICH IS NOT OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS. AND YOU HAVE $5 MILLION ALLOCATED IN R-24-29. WHICH ONE IS IT COMING FROM? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN R-29. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WHAT DID WE DO WITH ALL OF THE MONEY FROM R-22-91. >> PRESIDENT LEWIS, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THAT FUNDING WAS COMMITTED TO THE FIELD OF PROJECTS OF EWE SUPPORTED THE COUNTY WITH $1.2 MILLION WITH THE MAT PROGRAM. $300,000 WENT TO THE KEEP NM ALIVE INITIATIVE. I BELIEVE WE HAD $300,000 ALLOCATED TO A BILLING SYSTEM THAT WENT TO OUR SUBSTANCE USE VOUCHER PROGRAM CALLED THE PATH. I BELIEVE IT WAS AN APPROPRIATION TO MEDICAL SOBERING CENTER. AND THE OTHER -- WE HAD EAR MARKED FOR IN-PATIENT SERVICES. I BELIEVE WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING THAT CONTRACT WITH THE PRIDER. AND I'M HAPPY TO SEND YOU THE SUMMARY OF IT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD LOVE FOR THE 4.8 SUMMARY AND HOW MUCH OF THE $5 MILLION, THAT WAS, IN MY OPINION, PREMATURELY TAKEN OUT OF THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUND AND HOW MUCH OF THAT $5 MILLION WAS USED. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL INFORMATION. I DO NOT WANT TO DELAY THIS PROJECT. I WANT FOLKS TO GET HELP. WE'RE NOT SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR SUCCESS WHEN WE DON'T KNOW -- IT SHOULD BE REALLY CLEAR WITH THIS PROJECT THAT IT'S GOING TO HELP WITH OPIOID USE DISORDER. THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IN THE CONTRACT IS ALARMING TO ME. I WOULD LOVE THAT DATA. WHERE WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY. AND I WOULD LOVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS FOCUS WITH PEOPLE WITH OPIOID USE DISORDER. THAT'S THE POINT. I WILL NOT SUPPORT DEFERRAL, BUT I REALLY, REALLY EXPECT THAT WE START BEING TRANSPARENT WITH HOW WE'RE USING THEE THESE FUNDS AND IT'S GOING TO GO FOR THE USE THAT WE'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER AND EVERY AGAIN THAT THE PUBLIC WANT IT TO GO TO HELP PEOPLE THAT NEED OPIOID ADDICTION RECOVERY SERVICES AND WE NEED TO PROVE TO THEM THAT IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. COUNCILOR PEÑA AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. MOTION ON THE TABLE IS A TWO-WEEK DEFERRAL. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: JUST A FEW QUESTIONS. I THINK I HAVE SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS. I SUPPORT THIS. IT'S JUST THAT WE HAD R-29 THAT WAS IN FRONT OF US AND I ACTUALLY HAD PUT THAT FORWARD BECAUSE IT WAS A $5 MILLION. I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THE SHELTER. WE PUT AN AMENDMENT IN THERE. AND IN THAT AMENDMENT IT SAYS NO TEMPORARY HOUSING FACILITY FUNDED UNDER THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUND AS OUTLINED IN THIS BILL SHALL COMMENCE OPERATIONS UNTIL A FORMAL CONTRACT FOR OPIOID TREATMENT SERVICES DETAILING SPECIFIC TREATMENT PROTOCOLS AND PROVIDER AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN EXECUTED. TELL ME ABOUT THAT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THE INTENTION IS THIS CONTRACT WITH ENDEAVORS WOULD BE THAT SPECIFIC CONTRACT. THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT IT BEING OPIATE USE SPECIFIC. I MENTION THAT WHEN YOU READ THE OPIATE ABATEMENT LEGISLATION THEY TALK ABOUT IT BEING A SUBSTANCE USE WIDE PROGRAM. BECAUSE OF THE POLY SUBSTANCE USE THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, I DON'T THINK IT'S TOO PROBLEMATIC TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY HAVE A PRIMARY OPIOID USE DISORDER. AND WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE SPECIFICALLY HONING IN ON THE DEMOGRAPHIC THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED FOR. I THINK THAT WOULD MITIGATE A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES. THERE ARE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS IN THE CONTRACT THAT TALK ABOUT SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER SERVICES. AND I EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN LIKE IN SPACES LIKE LIFE SKILL CLASSES AND WHERE THE TREATMENT GETS IDENTIFIED IN THE BEGINNING AND YOU WORK WITH MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIAN AND YOU IDENTIFY PLAN, BOTH FOR TREATMENT AND EXIT. THERE'S SECTIONS IN HERE THAT TALK ABOUT THAT. EASY TO AMEND THE CONTRACT TO HAVE THAT LANGUAGE BE MORE ROBUST IF THAT'S HELPFUL TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE FEARS TO IT NOT BEING SPECIFIC TO THAT POPULATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, IT SAYS IN HERE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A DULY EXECUTED AGREEMENT. THAT'S SAYING WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER CONTRACT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS FOR SOMEBODY WHO CAN PROVIDE TREATMENT SERVICES. THAT'S HOW I SUPPORTED THIS INITIALLY BECAUSE I JUST DIDN'T THINK HAVING AN OUTDOOR SPACE FACILITY WAS A DIRECTION WE NEEDED TO GO. IT'S VERY CLEAR IN HERE THIS IS -- IT COMES FROM THE LEGISLATION, UNDER SECTION 2B OF R-24-29 IT SAYS, NO TEMPORARY HOUSING FACILITY FUNDED UNDER THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUND SHALL COMMENCE OPERATIONS UNTIL A FORMAL CONTRACT FOR OPIOID TREATMENT SERVICES DETAILING SPECIFIC TREATMENT PROTOCOLS AND PROVIDER AGREEMENTS HAS BEEN DULY EXECUTED. AND BEFORE YOU RESPOND TO THAT, I JUST HAVE REAL CONCERNS WITH THAT. THIS IS WHY I SAID I WOULD SUPPORT THIS. I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS -- JUST LET ME FINISH MY THOUGHT ON THIS. AND TO KNOW THEY DON'T DO THAT. THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY DO. AS COUNCILOR ROGERS SAID, THEY DON'T DO THAT. WE CAN'T PUT LANGUAGE IN THAT THEY SHOULD OR YOU HIGHLY RECOMMEND. MY INTENTION WAS THAT WE HAVE TREATMENT SERVICES AVAILABLE. AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WITH THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH WHEN THE PAST ADMINISTRATION DID AWAY WITH THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND WE WENT TO OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS, WE KNOW THEY DON'T DO THAT. I'M LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WITHIN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. THEY LEFT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T GETTING REIMBURSE AT THE SAME RATE AS TEXAS AND ARIZONA. THAT'S CONCERNING. AND JUST THE SCOPE OF SERVICES. I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO HEAR -- BECAUSE I HEAR LOT OF WORDS AND LINGO THAT YOU USE AS PART OF THIS WORK, I THINK WE REALLY HAVE TO HONE DOWN ON THE SCOPE OF SERVICES ON WHO IS GOING TO DO WHAT. BECAUSE THERE ARE LOTS OF ORGANIZATIONS, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT A YOUNG LADY TALKING ABOUT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE DOING REALLY GOOD WORK IN THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT THE INDIAN CENTER, I KNOW THEY DO A REALLY GOOD JOB. AND THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THESE GUYS. I HAVE FAMILIES MEMBERS THAT SUFFERED FROM THIS. AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE, CATHOLIC CHARITIES THAT DO THOSE KINDS OF WORK. CONTRACTS WITH THOSE FOLKS, TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THEM, WAS MY EXPECTATION WHEN WE DID THIS. AND WHEN WE LOOKED FOR -- WE REALLY NEED INPATIENT TREATMENT. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE, AND I DON'T WANT TO JUST FOCUS ON THIS, BUT WE REALLY LACK THE MAIN CORE THAT WE NEED -- WE NEED SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT. I KNOW ALCOHOL IS PART OF IT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING -- BUT THE AMOUNT OF OPIOIDS THAT ARE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THIS IS FOR THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT. IT'S NOT FOR ALCOHOL SETTLEMENT. THIS IS FOR THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT. THE DEVASTATION THAT IT CAUSED IN OUR COMMUNITY. AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT. I THINK IT DOES NEED A TWO-WEEK DEFERRAL. I REALLY DO. I THINK WE NEED TO IRON OUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT ARE IN HERE BECAUSE JUST SAYING WE ENCOURAGE AND WE HOPE, YOU KNOW, I REALLY -- YOU KNOW THIS MONEY IS ONE-TIME MONEY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT AGAIN. THE PEOPLE WHO WE'VE LOST IN THE COMMUNITY TO THIS, I JUST DON'T WANT US TO DO ANOTHER CONTRACT THAT REALLY DOESN'T DO ANYTHING BUT HAVE A LOT OF WORDS ABOUT ENCOURAGEMENT. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE DEFERRAL, ALTHOUGH I DO SUPPORT THIS. I JUST HOPE WE COME BACK WITH SOMETHING MORE CONCRETE. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING SURE THE NEXT TWO WEEKS ARE VERY PRODUCTIVE, I WANT TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT R-91 AND R-29, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT BILLS. THAT'S $5 MILLION IN R-29 FOR THE PALLET HOME AREA USING OPIOID FUNDS WITH TREATMENT SERVICES CORRECT? OKAY. SO, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN'T BEGIN THE OPERATIONS, WHICH I THINK IT'S UP FOR DEBATE, ACCORDING TO SOME COMMENTS I'VE HEARD, WHETHER OR NOT OPERATIONS IS BEGINNING, BEING THAT CONSTRUCTION HAPPENED AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S CONCERN. I HOPE THAT THERE ARE NO OPERATIONS THAT BEGIN UNTIL WE HAVE A CONTRACT. WE CAN'T HAVE A CONTRACT UNLESS WE APPROVE THE EC. AND, YET, I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE THE EC IF I DON'T SEE A SPECIFIC TREATMENT PROTOCOL IN THE PROVIDER AGREEMENT. IT'S WRITTEN IN THE LEGISLATION THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE DETAILS SPECIFICALLY FOR TREATMENT PROTOCOLS AND PROVIDER AGREEMENTS. WE NEED SOMETHING. I'M NOT TRYING TO CROSS OVER BETWEEN THE SEPARATION OF POWERS BETWEEN COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION. BUT IT'S WRITTEN IN THE LEGISLATION. AND THIS COMES BACK TO ME WONDERING IF WE'RE JUST SUGGESTING TO THE ADMINISTRATION WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, WHICH IS NOT HOW I FEEL WE SHOULD DO IT. WE SHOULD SEE THE SPECIFIC TREATMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE OFFERED BY ENDEAVORS, OR WHOMEVER. BECAUSE IF I DON'T SEE SOMETHING IN THERE FOR SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT, THAT'S NOT JUST WORDS ON A PAGE, BUT ACTUAL COMMITMENT AND EXPERIENCE IN BEING ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE SUFFERING AND IN NEED, THEN I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT. EVEN THOUGH I KNOW WE NEED IT. WE NEED TO DO BETTER. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW THE LEGISLATION, FOLLOW THE RULES, AND I FEEL, UNFORTUNATELY, I REMEMBER US PUTTING IN THE RULES BECAUSE WE DIDN'T BELIEVE THINGS WOULD HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED TO WHAT WE WERE PROMISED THE IDEOLOGY WOULD HAVE BEEN. NOW, PLEASE, IN TWO WEEKS -- BEFORE TWO WEEKS, COME BACK TO US. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PUBLIC, ALTHOUGH IT SHOULD BE ON THE DATA WEBSITE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, BUT AT LEAST THE COUNCIL SHOULD SEE WHAT THE PROMISE IS FROM ENDEAVORS AND HOW THEY'RE QUALIFIED TO DO THIS TO HELP PEOPLE IN NEED. USING OPIOID SETTLM -- SETTLEMENT FUNDING THAT IS ONLY IN EXISTENCE BECAUSE OF THE SUFFERING AND TRAGEDY THAT HAPPENED IN OUR COUNTRY. >>COUN. LEWIS: THIS IS TWO-WEEK DEFERRAL. MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY QUESTIONS? THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. MOTION PASSES 7-2. WE'LL DO A 30-MINUTE BREAK. WE'LL BE BACK AT 7:30. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ON ITEM D ON THE AGENDA. THIS IS COUNCILOR BASSAN, BY REQUEST. O-47. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, ARE WE GOING TO DO ITEM A, O-41 FIRST? OR DO YOU WANT ME TO GO WITH O-47? >>COUN. LEWIS: ITEM A, COUNCILOR PEÑA, BY REQUEST. >>COUN. PEÑA: IT'S AMENDING THE 2024 UNIFORM ADMINISTRATIVE CODE TO ADJUST CERTAIN ME AND CLARIFYING LANGUAGE ARE RENEWAL PERMITS AND MAKE CLERICAL CORRECTIONS. I MOVE A DO PASS. THIS IS SOMETHING WE DID -- WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT FGO. THIS IS SOMETHING DURING THE BUDGET, THIS IS JUST PUTTING THE LEGISLATION FORWARD TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT THOSE FEES. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. WE HAVE DIRECTOR VARELA, IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, BECAUSE OF THE EARLIER CONVERSATION, I'M HIS TANT TO ASK THIS, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE 100% INCREASE IN PERMIT FEES IS? >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE CERTAINLY CAN EXPLAIN THAT. THESE WERE TRADE PERMITS, NOT CONSTRUCTION PERMITS IN GENERAL, HAVE NOT BEEN ADJUSTED FOR WHATEVER REASON SINCE 2009. THEY'RE INCREDIBLY OUT OF DATE. THEY DO NOT REFLECT THE COST OF PROVIDING THOSE. THROUGH OUR RESEARCH COORDINATOR, WHO IS HERE TONIGHT IN CASE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, STUDIED COMPARABLE CITIES IN NEW MEXICO AND ACROSS THE REGION, AND WE FOUND EVEN WITH OUR PROPOSED INCREASE THAT MAY BRING US UP TO 2017, OR 2018. THAT LEAVES US BELOW MANY OTHER RATES. COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THIS BILL INCLUDES MASSIVE FEE REDUCTIONS AS WELL IN THE OTHER DIVISIONS. TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE FOR YOU, I HAVE ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR ROSE HERE. >> GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I CAN TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE WAY WE RE STRUCTURED SOME OF THE EXPIRATION LANGUAGE IN THE UNIFORM ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. OUR CURRENT LANGUAGE HAS PLAN REVIEW, ONCE THAT PLAN EXPIRES AN AN APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO RESUBMIT AND REPAY THOSE PLAN REVIEW VEES AND THEY CAN BE SUBSTANTIAL. THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE IN THE CODE IS, SAY, IF AN APPLICANT'S PLAN EXPIRED AND THERE HAD BEEN NO CHANGES TO THE TECHNICAL CODE, OUR CERTIFIED BUILDING OFFICIALS CAN MAKE AN HOURLY RATE TO DO A QUICK REVIEW AND SAVE THOSE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. THAT'S TRUE FOR PLANNED REVIEW. AND SIMILARLY, FOR PERMIT, WHICH CAN ALSO BE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, IF A PERMIT EXPIRES AND THERE HAD BEEN NO CHANGES AT ALL TO THE TECHNICAL CODE, INSTEAD OF MAKING THE APPLICANT RESUBMIT THEIR PLANS WHICH OUR CURRENT CODE REQUIRES, WE'RE WAIVING THAT BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN NO CHANGE AND WE'RE WAIVING THAT FEE AND ALLOWING THE APPLICANT TO SIMPLY REAPPLY FOR THE FERMENT FEE. IN THAT INSTANCE, WE'VE LISTENED TO SOME OF OUR CUSTOMER'S PAIN POINTS REGARDING EXPIRATION OF PLANS AND PERMITS AND THEY'VE MENTIONED THIS TO US QUITE A BIT, SO WE'VE TAKEN ACTION TO MAKE THAT FRIENDLIER. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, THAT DOES HELP. I JUST WANT TO SAY, AGAIN, BASED OFF OF OUR EARLIER CONVERSATION, WHEN WE HAVEN'T UPDATED SOMETHING SINCE 2009 AND INFLATION IS HAPPENING, I REALIZE IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE TO START CHARGING TAXPAYERS MORE, HOWEVER, I THINK MAYBE THE COUNCIL SHOULD LOOK AT EITHER AN ALL OR NOTHING APPROACH. BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE RAISING THINGS, OR WE HAVE RAISED AND FEES AND COSTS IN SOME AREAS, I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT FOR US TO STOP RAISING FEES IN OTHER AREAS WHEN THAT CREATES A WHOLE OTHER INEQUITY IN THAT REGARD. I THINK, GIVEN THE CONVERSATION, WE LOOK AT ELIMINATING FEES AT SOME POINT. OR ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE BOARD FOR WHICHEVER DEPARTMENT. I WILL SAY THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION AND REASONING BEHIND IT. WE HAVE TO UPDATE THINGS WHEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M NOT TOO SURE WHO CAN ANSWER THIS, BUT ONE THING THAT CAUGHT MY EYES IS THE DEPARTMENT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PRODUCE THE REVENUE ALREADY APPROVED THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET FOR FY25. WAS THIS MENTIONED IN FY25 THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE OUR FEES IN ORDER TO -- >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WHEN THE BUDGET WAS PASSED, I BELIEVE YOU DID -- IN THE BUDGET WHEN IT WAS PASSED, THESE FEES WERE INCREASED TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST TO ADD TO THAT, YEAH. WE'VE HAD THIS LENGTHY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE. AND DIRECTOR VARELA, THIS IS HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE BALANCED BUDGET, IF WE WERE TO NOT PASS THIS THIS EVENING IT WOULD HURT OUR CITY BUDGET. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, OTHER DISCUSSION? WE'LL CLOSE THE DISCUSSION. COUNCILOR PEÑA, ANYTHING ELSE? >>COUN. PEÑA: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. THIS IS O-41. MOVED AND SECONDED. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. ALL RIGHT. O-47. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT O-47 IS AMENDING CHAPTER TWO ARTICLE 14 PART ONE OF THE LOCAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN ORDINANCE. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS -- I KNOW THE DIRECTOR -- WELL -- THERE HERE IS. THEY'RE HERE. AT THE SAME TIME, AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THIS IS SAYING ANY TIME LEDA FUNDS ARE NOT USED ENTIRELY, THEY WILL BE GO BACK INTO THE LEDA ACCOUNT SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO US AGAIN FOR ANOTHER APPROPRIATION FOR A VERY, VERY SIMILAR IF NOT THE SAME THING MOVING FORWARD. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. COUNCILORS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR OR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK THIS IS GREAT. THIS IS VERY GOOD. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT WAS ALL MY IDEA. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE DISCUSSION. THAT'S ALL ON THE RECORD. AND WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. THIS IS O-47. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. OPPOSED NO. THAT MOTION PASSES. ITEM C IS O-49. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. O-49 IS AMENDING CHAPTER TWO ARTICLE SIX OF THE ALBUQUERQUE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO INSERT ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ESTABLISH DUTIES, POWERS, AND MEMBERSHIP. AND I'LL LET MR. MENACUCCI TAKE A STAB AT THIS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THIS RESOLUTION ADDRESSES A LONGTIME PROBLEM FOR THE CITY AS IT'S GROWN. THERE'S PARTS IN DISTRICT THREE, AND DISTRICT TWO, AND DISTRICT FOUR WHERE THE CITY COUNTIES BOUNDARIES DON'T LINE UP. ONE SIDE OF THE STREET CAN BE COUNTY AND ONE CITY. YOU CAN HAVE ONE PERSON CITY, RESIDENT FOLLOWING THAT IS THE CITY. IT'S THE CHECKERBOARD AREA. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE'S THINGS LIKE ANIMAL WELFARE, FLOODING, ROAD REPAIR, IT'S NOT CLEAR AS TO WHICH AGENCY IT'S SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE AND WHO IS FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE. IT HAPPENS THAT PEOPLE GO ROUND AND ROUN TO DEPARTMENTS AND THEY HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNCILORS OR THE COUNTY COMMISSION OFFICE TO GET IT RESOLVED. AT THAT POINT THOSE OFFICERS SAKE TAKE REVERAL MONTHS. IT REQUIRES MAJOR INVESTMENT, THEN IT CAN GO ON FOR YEARS. WHAT THIS RESOLUTION DOES IS IT TRIES TO PUT TOGETHER, IT AUTHORIZES THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER FROM THE CITY, COUNTY MANAGER, AND DIRECTOR OF MRGCD TO BE ABLE TO ASSIGN PEOPLE TO A TASK FORCE FOR A COMMITTEE THAT MEET QUARTERLY IN A PUBLIC NEAT MEETING. THEY CAN TAKE PUBLIC TESTAMENT, AND THE COMMITTEE CAN INITIATE STEPS TO RESOLVE IT. AND ALSO IT WOULD ALLOW THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE AGENCY DIVISION MANAGERS OR SECTION HEAD MANAGERS TO BE ABLE TO START WORKING ON SOME OF THE ISSUES THEY'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS AS TO WHO RESOLVES IT. IT'S JUST TRYING TO PULL TOGETHER TO RESOLVE LONG-TERM ISSUES. I SHOULD POINT OUT REGARDING PUBLIC SAFETY THERE ARE AT LEAST IN PLACE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENTS THAT SEEM TO WORK WELL. ON THE OTHER AGENT SERVICES IT HAS NOT BEEN. THIS HELPS TO SOLVE THAT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE NEED A MOTION. WE NEED A MOTION TO BE MADE. >>COUN. LEWIS: ON THE BILL? SO, COUNCILOR PEÑA, YOU MOVED THE BILL, CORRECT? >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. I MOVE O-49. >>COUN. LEWIS: SECONDED BY COUNCILOR BACA. I THINK WE HAVE SEVERAL PUBLIC SPEAKERS. WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS SIGNED UP. ONLY ONE IS PRESENT IN ZOOM. WE HAVE JAMES TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. JUST TO FINISH UP ON THAT COMMENT FROM GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. I DO GENERALLY AGREE WITH THIS BILL. THERE'S THE NEED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND CHALLENGES ACROSS THE CITY. I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST LIMITED TO THE COUNTY-CITY BOUNDARIES. IT'S FAR MORE WIDESPREAD FROM THAT. WE WANT TO REALLY AVOID SITUATIONS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST OUT IN DISTRICT FIVE WHERE UNIVERSE BOULEVARD HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN FOR AT LEAST FIVE MONTHS DUE TO THE INSTALLATION OF A TRANSITION WATERLINE IN THE 4W WATER PRESSURE ZONE BETWEEN VOLCANO AND CORRALES JUNCTIONS. THE PLANS, AS I MENTIONED, WITH THE WATER AUTHORITY ORDINANCE, THE PLANS SHOW A SIMILAR LINE IN THE 3W AREA ALONG UNSER WHICH WILL HAVE TO BE DUG UP AND SHUT DOWN IN THE FUTURE IF WE CONTINUE ON THE CURRENT PATH. I HOPE YOU TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION. I'D LIKE TO HAVE DIALOGUE WITH ANYBODY ON THE COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THE WATER UTILITY BOARD OR OTHER AFFILIATIONS WITH BOARDS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. WE'LL GO TO DISCUSSION ON THIS. IN THIS TASK FORCE, I GUESS I'M JUST CONCERNED IF THERE'S ANY -- ARE WE GIVING DECISIONMAKING POWER TO THIS TASK FORCE. WE CLEARLY SAY THIS IS ADVISORY. DECISIONS BY A TASK FORCE WOULD WIND US IN ANY WAY AS A COUNCIL? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT LEWIS, I WOULD GO TO ITEM A, SECTION 269-3, STUDY AND ADVISE ON BECS -- BEST PRACTICES. AND SECTION C, DEVELOP PLANS AND PROCESSES TO IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES. THE ASSUMPTION IS THEY OPERATE WITHIN THEIR POWERS. THEY DEVELOP PLANS AND PROCESSES, BUT IT DOES NOT SAY THEY ADOPT REGULATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. >>COUN. LEWIS: I JUST SUGGEST THAT WE CLEARLY STATE THAT. DECISIONS BY THIS TASK FORCE ARE NOT BINDING IN ANY WAY. I GUESS SOME LEGAL LANGUAGE THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH THAT WOULD, IF THE SPONSOR IS OKAY WITH THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, IT WOULD CLEARLY STATE THESE ARE NOT BINDING TO THE COUNCIL OR THE COMMISSION. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, IT SAYS ADVISORY. REALLY, WHAT THIS IS ATTEMPTING TO DO IS ACTUALLY JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, PUT A COMMITTEE TOGETHER TO IDENTIFY THESE SECTIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. I HEARD THE PUBLIC COMMENTERS EARLIER, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IN TERMS OF GROWTH ON THE WEST SIDE, OVERALL. I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS IS SMALL, ESTABLISHED OF NEIGHBORHOODS FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS THAT HAVE LITERALLY, AS EXPLAINED BY OUR STAFF, IS WE HAVE BREADS THAT -- ROADS THAT ONE SIDE IS CITY, ONE COUNTY. WE HAD A ROAD THAT WAS COMPLETELY NEGLECTED THAT HAD FLOODING ISSUES THAT THE ENTIRE ROAD IS COUNTY, BUT THE STREET IS CITY. THERE'S ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THE DISTRICT, AND COUNCILOR BACA HAD SIMILAR ISSUES, AND THERE'S POCKETS OF JURISDICTIONAL ISSUES FOR MAINTENANCE AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ROADS. THIS REALLY GOES A LONG WAY TO HELP AN UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT. I GET CALLS, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, WE PUT IN 244 STREET LIGHTS, WHICH WE HAD NONE, VERY DARK, DISTRICT THREE. WHEN WE PUT THEM IN, I KNEW WE WERE DOING TOWER, AND WHEN WE DID IT THEY ONLY DID ONE SIDE, AND THEY DIDN'T DO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET BECAUSE IT WAS COUNTY. NOBODY HAD THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT WAS CITY OR COUNTY AND NOBODY HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH ME SO I COULD WORK WITH THE COUNTY. THIS WILL HELP TO MAP AND DETAIL. AND LOOK AT AREAS WHERE WE CAN MAYBE INCORPORATE INTO THE CITY OR INCORPORATE IT INTO THE COUNTY WHERE IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. >>COUN. LEWIS: YEAH, I THINK I CAN SEE THE POTENTIAL, A LOT OF GOOD COULD COME FROM THIS. ONE CONCERN IS EVEN IF IT'S ADVISORY, WE TAKE A LOT OF WEIGHT WHEN THERE'S A GROUP THAT GETS TOGETHER, EVEN ADVISORY DISCUSSIONS, WE'LL TAKE THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION. WE'RE GIVING THEM SOME KIND OF POWER, IN THAT REGARD. I DO HAVE A LOT OF AREAS OF DISTRICT FIVE THAT ARE OLD. AREAS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH PARADISE HILLS AND SOME OF THE OLDER COUNTY COMMUNITIES THAT I HAVE ALL THROUGHOUT MY DISTRICT. BUT I ALSO HAVE A LOT OF AREAS NEW GROWTH THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND ROAD WAYS THAT CROSS INTO WHERE THE COUNTY AND THE CITY, WHERE SOMETIMES THERE'S CONTROVERSY OVER THOSE. AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE AREAS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT A COMMITTEE LIKE THIS CAN MAKE ADVISORY DECISIONS AND KEEP SOME OF THOSE THINGS FROM MOVING THROUGH THAT ARE HEALTHY FOR THE CITY BUT NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE COUNTY. WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE KINDS OF TASK FORCE AND COMMITTEES THAT ARE FORMED BETWEEN THE CITY AND COUNTY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE AN OUT AS WELL. THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DISSOLVE THIS AND REMOVE OUR MEMBERS IN THAT REGARD IF IT DOESN'T SERVE OUR PRIORITIES AND OUR PURPOSES IN THAT WAY. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS REALLY INTENDED AND TRYING TO HELP REALLY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK, I SUGGEST THAT MAYBE YOU DO A SIMILAR RESOLUTION TO ADDRESS THE SAME ISSUES THAT YOU'RE HAVING BECAUSE IT'S REALLY AN ISSUE OF GROWTH. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN A MEETING WE HAD TODAY ABOUT GROWTH IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OBSTACLES ARE TO GROWTH. I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE PEOPLE FOCUSED ON THAT. SOMETIMES, I GETS CONCERNED WHEN TRYING TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE IN DISTRICT THREE AND WE DO SOMETHING THAT'S ON A BROADER ISSUE LIKE IN YOUR DISTRICT, THAT'S WHY I WOULD SAY TO DO A STAND-ALONE RESOLUTION BECAUSE THE FOCUS IS THE OTHER AREA INSTEAD OF THE COMMUNITIES OF NEED. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M JUST NOT SURE IF I WANT TO GIVE THE COUNTY PERMISSION TO GIVE PERMISSION ON INFRASTRUCTURE WE'RE PLANNING. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST A QUESTION ON PAGE TWO ABOUT SECTION CALLING OUT ALL OF THE ENTITIES THAT ARE ENCOURAGED TO ADOPT COMPANION LEGISLATION. DO WE KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO PASS COMPANION LEGISLATION TO SAY THAT THEY'RE -- I'M SURE YOU DID THE WORK TO ASK THEM. I JUST WANT TO ASK THAT QUESTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, I HAD CONVERSATIONS, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T SAY WHETHER PEOPLE WOULD PASS IT OR NOT PASS IT. WE'VE PASSED LEGISLATION TO HAVE APS PART OF ABCGC AT THE COUNTY AND WE DIDN'T PASS IT AT THE CITY. AND WE PASSED IT LATER. SO, WE CAN'T GUARANTEE PASSAGE BY EITHER. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I'M HOPING TO GET A REFRESHER, AND I'M SORRY THAT I DON'T RECALL EXACTLY WHAT WAS IN THE BILL, BUT IS THERE SOMETHING THAT UPON MEETING THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WILL END UP PREPARING SOME KIND OF NOTIFICATION THAT WILL THEN COME BEFORE EACH ENTITY? OR IS IT JUST WE HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR MEETINGS QUARTERLY? >> NO, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, NO, THERE IS NOT. THE CONCEPT WAS THAT YOU HAVE DIVISION MANAGERS, SECTION MANAGERS, AND THEY COME TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH A PLAN. WITH THAT, THE PLANNING WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK. IF THERE WAS EXPENDITURE ON THE PART OF THE CITY THAT WASN'T PART OF THE APPROPRIATED BUDGET WITHIN THAT SECTION, AND IT WAS A NEW BUDGET THEY HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A LEGAL REVIEW. OR THEY CAN GET TOGETHER A STORM WATER PLAN, THE COST IS $700,000, AND NOW THAT WILL HAVE TO COME TO THE CIP PROCESS. THE CITY PAYS $350,000, THE COUNTY PAYS THE LATTER. IT'S TO GET THEM TO WORK TOGETHER AND GO BACK TO THE AGENCIES AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESSES DEPENDING ON THE LEVEL OF DECISION MADE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, IS THERE A REASON WHY COUNCILORS WEREN'T INVOLVED AS PART OF THE COMMITTEE? I KNOW YOU INDICATED THERE'S GOING TO BE THE DESIRE TO HELPED THE UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES, BUT THE PORTION OF DISTRICT FOUR THAT RESIDES BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY IS NOT WHAT ANYONE WOULD CLASSIFY AS UNDERSERVED, HOWEVER I'VE HAD THREE YEARS WHERE I TRIED TO GET A FOUR-WAY STOP WHERE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND THE COUNTY HAVE NOT BEEN QUITE AS RESPONSIVE AS I HOPED. THIS IS A GREAT IDEA WHEN I SAW THE PROPOSAL. BUT IF I'M HEARING IT'S REALLY AIMED AT ONLY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES AND ONLY THIS QUARTERLY MEETING WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE -- I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION, HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT COUNCILORS WHO DO HAVE AREAS THAT RESIDE BORDERING COUNTY OR VILLAGE OR CITY PROPERTY AT BOUNDARIES CAN COME TO THIS COMMITTEE, OR IS IT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE TO KEEP A THUMB ON IT, IF THAT'S THE CASE, IT'S OKAY. BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE, PARTICULARLY THE AREAS THAT HAVE THE BORDERS AND DOWNRIES. -- BOUNDARIES. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, I RELAY THE SAME TO YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN, AND TO ANY OTHER COUNCILOR, IF YOU THINK THIS IS GOOD LEGISLATION BECAUSE YOU HAVE SIMILAR ISSUES, I THINK YOU CAN CREATE THE SAME -- BECAUSE WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE. WE'RE LOOKING AT CITY STAFF, COUNTY STAFF, DMD, TO PUT THEIR HEADS TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT THIS ISSUE. BECAUSE OFTENTIMES, LIKE YOU SAY, WHEN WE CALL IT'S A POINTING OF FINGERS, WHETHER IT'S CITY RESPONSIBILITY, COUNTY OR STATE. THIS IS AN EFFORT -- I'M JUST SAYING FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE LEGISLATION THAT I HAVE PUT FORWARD IS I REALLY WANT THEM TO FOCUS ON DISTRICT THREE. IF OTHER COUNCILORS HAVE SIMILAR ISSUES AND WANT THEM TO FOCUS ON THOSE ISSUES, I THINK YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY DO IT BECAUSE YEARS AGO WE USED TO BE ABLE TO ANNEX PROPERTY IN THE CITY, NOW IT'S BECOME MORE DIFFICULT. I THINK THE COUNTY, IN THEIR DEFENSE WAS WORRIED ABOUT LOSING TAX REVENUE. THEY HALTED US FROM DOING THAT. IT JUST THREW A LINE IN THE SAND BACK IN THE DAY. AND WHATEVER WAS THERE WAS THERE. AND IT'S REALLY BECOMING AN ISSUE. NOT TO BELABOR THIS, BUT ONE OF MY PRIORITIES FOR THIS NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS TO REALLY LOOK AT, AND YOU'VE TALKED TO THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT IT, IS I HAD OUR STAFF LOOKING AT IT IS WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL CITY CAMPUS ON THE WEST SIDE. WE DON'T HAVE CITY SERVICES AND FACILITIES ON THE WEST SIDE. WE HAVE OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE, WE HAVE THE ANIMAL SHELTER, WE HAVE THE FIRE ACADEMY UP THERE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, ANYWAY, ALL THAT IS -- I THOUGHT WAS CITY, IT'S ON COUNTY PROPERTY. WE HAVE THIS MASSIVE CITY -- SO, ANYWAY, I THINK THAT IF YOU ALL HAVE THIS ISSUE IN YOUR DISTRICT, I WOULD SUPPORT LEGISLATION TO DO EXACTLY THAT. BECAUSE IT'S A PAIN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, IF I CAN FOLLOW UP TO THAT? >>COUN. LEWIS: LET ME COMMENT FIRST. I THINK THAT IS TRUE, COUNCILOR PEÑA, BUT THE LEGISLATION AFFECTS ALL THE DISTRICTS. YOUR LEGISLATION WOULD AFFECT ALL OF US IN THAT WAY. I GUESS THERE'S SOME -- ANOTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, HOW DOES THIS COMMITTEE'S AGENDA -- LIKE WHAT GOES ON THEIR AGENDA? I IMAGINE THAT IF YOU HAD SOME SPECIFIC AREAS, THEN YOU COULD PUT THAT ON THEIR AGENDA, BUT IT MAY BE THAT A COMMISSIONER HAS SOMETHING THEY WANT TO PUT ON THE AGENDA, OR SOMEBODY FROM THE PUBLIC SAYS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS ROAD AND DISCUSS THIS, SO -- AND THEN THE SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT MAYBE THIS COMMITTEE, THIS TASK FORCE IS AN ISSUE BY ISSUE TYPE OF A TASK FORCE WHERE IT CONVENES ONLY WHEN THERE'S A REQUESTED TOPIC OR AREA BY THE COUNCILORS OR COMMISSIONERS OR SOMETHING. I GUESS THE IDEA OF WHERE IS THEIR AGENDA ORIGINATING? >>COUN. PEÑA: WE CAN TALK TO OUR STAFF ABOUT THIS. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A MEETING OR COMMISSION OR BOARD THAT WE HAVE. THIS IS REALLY JUST OUR CITY STAFF, COUNTY STAFF, WHOMEVER ELSE COMING TOGETHER TO TESTIFY AND LOOK AT THESE ISSUES OF RESPONSIBILITY, IF YOU WILL. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I MAKE A MOTION FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO ADD DISTRICT THREE TO THIS BILL. GIVEN WHAT WE'VE HEARD, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE THAT IF THIS IS GOING TO BE SPECIFIC FOR DISTRICT THREE, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE THE DESIRED INTENT OF THE COUNCILOR, THEN WE CAN PROPOSE OUR OWN LEGISLATION WE WANT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO SAY THIS IS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE CHECKER BOARD AREAS PARTICULARLY TO ADDRESS NEEDS IN DISTRICT THREE. NO, I WOULD NOT BE AMENABLE TO ADD COUNAL -- COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO. IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY SPECIFICALLY FOCUSING ON THAT, THEN I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE -- I LIKE MY MOTION FOR ADDING COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE. >>COUN. LEWIS: STAFF, DO YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION ON HOW TO WORD THAT? GO AHEAD, COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE A SECOND? POINT OF ORDER. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION ON THE FLOOR -- WE'RE ASKING THEM TO WRITE THE AMENDMENT. DO YOU WANT TO WAIT TO HAVE AN AMENDMENT, JUST SOME LANGUAGE TOGETHER? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF CAN GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE TO ADD THAT THIS IS FOR COUNCIL DISTRICT. I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE TOO IN-DEPTH AND WE NEED TO ACTUALLY PUT ON PAGE, LINE ITEM, THIS AND THAT FOR EVERYTHING. IT SHOULD SAY THIS BILL IS FOR COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE. IT CAN BE A NEW SECTION DOWN AT THE BOTTOM THAT SAYS THIS IS SPECIFIC TO COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT SHOULD BE VERY SIMPLE. LET'S JUST WAIT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD SOME SPECIFIC LANGUAGE. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PROBLEM, LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER -- YOU KNOW, I MEAN MY CONCERN WAS IT SOUNDS LIKE OTHER COUNCILORS ARE HAVING SIMILAR ISSUES. I DON'T WANT TO CONVOLUTE SOMETHING THAT MAY POTENTIALLY BE A GOOD IDEA. IF THERE'S OTHER COUNCIL DISTRICTS, AND I GUESS THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL SUGGEST BEFORE THE AMENDMENT IS COMPLETE, IS THAT IS THERE A WAY TO MAYBE HANDLE EACH DISTRICT SEPARATELY SO THAT FOCUS DOESN'T GO A DIFFERENT WAY? THAT WAS MY WHOLE INTENT. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF ADDRESSING ISSUES. CAN WE START BY COUNCIL DISTRICTS IN ORDER OF 1, 2, 3 AND 4 AND ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES WITHIN THE SPECIFIC DISTRICTS? I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW COUNCILOR BACA ACTUALLY HAS -- IS INTERESTED IN HAVING DISTRICT TWO AS PART OF IT AS WELL. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WHEN I FIRST READ THIS AMENDMENT, I DIDN'T READ IT AS DISTRICT THREE. I READ IT CITYWIDE, HOWEVER DISTRICT TWO HAS VERY, VERY SIMILAR ISSUES AND I BELIEVE DISTRICT FOUR HAS SIMILAR ISSUES. I HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT THAT I DISCUSSED WITH COUNCILOR PEÑA ABOUT IT. I RAN INTO SO MANY ISSUES. ACTUALLY LAST WEEK, WE WERE AT A PROPERTY WHERE THE CITY SIDE WALK AND ROAD AND IT'S FLOODING INTO THE COUNTY HOME. IT'S NOT PART OF THE COUNTY, IT'S PART OF THE COUNTY SURROUNDED BY THE CITY. AND IT JUST MAKES -- THE ROADS THAT WERE -- IT GOES 300 YARDS AND IT STARTS BEGIN. IT'S WEIRD, RIDICULOUS THINGS THE THAT -- CAN WE FIX THEM? I LOOK AT THIS BILL, AND I'M LIKE WE CAN START A RECOMMENDATION AND ADVISORY TASK FORCE, WHICH IT SAYS ADVISORY, TO FIX SOME OF THESE THINGS. YES, WE CAN MAKE THIS DISTRICT THREE ONLY, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AGAIN NEXT WEEK BECAUSE I'M GOING TO COPY IT BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAN DO SOME GOOD WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF TROUBLE. THAT SAID, I DON'T -- I'M NOT FOR COUNCILOR BASSAN'S AMENDMENT. I DO HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT I'D LIKE TO MOVE AFTER, IF POSSIBLE. >>COUN. LEWIS: SOME OTHER DISCUSSION -- DO WE HAVE THAT LANGUAGE ON THE AMENDMENT? >> JUST TO ADD THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS? IS THAT CORRECT? >>COUN. LEWIS: RIGHT. COUNCILOR BASSAN MADE A MOTION TO MAKE THIS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT DISTRICT THREE. >> YES, WE HAVE IT. IT WOULD BE ON PAGE THREE, LINE SEVEN, YOU WOULD INSERT SECTION E, AND IT WOULD STATE FOR COUNCIL DISTRICT 3, WHATEVER COUNCIL DISTRICTS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, MY MOTION WAS FOR THREE. AND MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK IT'S A SHAME THAT WE NEED AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, FIRST OF ALL. I THINK IT'S A TRUE SHAME. WE'VE HEARD FROM COUPLE COUNCILORS, IF NOT MORE THAN A COUPLE, THAT EXPRESSED NEED. I EXPRESS NEED WITH DISTRICT FOUR BECAUSE I SHARE A NEED IN THE COUNTY. I DON'T THINK MY NEEDS IN DISTRICT FOUR ARE SOMETHING NOT WORTH FIGHTING FOR WHEN IT'S A DIFFERENT AREA OF TOWN. IF IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE DISTRICTS, THAT'S WHY THE PURPOSE OF MY AMENDMENT WE CAN HAVE INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS AND BILLS COME FORWARD FOR EACH OF US, IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT, BUT IF NOT, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, IF THAT'S THE CASE AND IT PASSES, TO WHERE IT CAN ADVISE ON ANY OF THE CHECKER BOARD, CITY COUNTY, FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE INTEPT -- INTENT OF PRIORITIZING ONE OVER THE OTHER, WE SHOULD SPELL IT OUT. >>COUN. LEWIS: AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THAT'S ON THE TABLE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE SPONSOR OF THE BILL WHAT THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS. MY QUESTION IS FOR THE SPONSOR, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS ARE FOR THIS BILL. IS IT FOR YOUR DISTRICT OR CITYWIDE? PERSONALLY I'M THE ONLY COUNCILOR THAT HAS NO UNINCORPORATED PARTS OF THE COUNTY. I JUST WANT TO READ YOUR INTENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: FOR ME, IT IS CITY WIDE. BUT IT IS MY BILL, AND MY INTENTION WITH THE BILL IS TO WORK WITH THE STAFF ON DISTRICT THREE. SO, WHEN THE COUNCILORS STARTED TALKING ABOUT THEIR DISTRICTS, I WAS SAYING -- WHEN THE MOTION WAS MADE TO MAKE IT SPECIFIC FOR DISTRICT THREE, THEN I WAS -- I GOT HESITANT AND SAID IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT DISTRICT-SPECIFIC, THEN WE HAVE TO -- THAT'S WHEN I MADE THE SUGGESTION TO START ADD THE DISTRICTS THAT WANT TO BE PART IT. THE IDEA OF IT WAS FOR CITYWIDE. IT WAS MY RESOLUTION AND I WAS GOING TO WORK WITH THE STAFF TO WORK ON ISSUES THAT I HAVE. >>COUN. LEWIS: AGAIN. THIS MOTION IS FOR THIS TASK FORCE TO BE SPECIFIC TO DISTRICT THREE. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE USED TO DO IN THE OLD DAYS WHEN THIS COULD ACTUALLY BE ANOTHER POSSIBLE AMENDMENT IS WHEN WE WOULD ACTUALLY DEAL WITH AN UNINCORPORATED AREA WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND WE WOULD WITH DETERMINE THAT WE WERE GOING TO PROVIDE SERVICE IN THAT AREA, WE WOULD ACTUALLY PROVIDE AN MOU. IN MY OPINION, THIS COMMITTEE COULD BE USED TO ACTUALLY VET THESE PROCESSES OUT AND THEN ACTUALLY SUBMIT AN MOU FOR THAT CERTAIN AREA. AT THAT POINT, WE KNOW THAT IF THERE'S DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT ACTUALLY SERVICE THAT AREA IN QUESTION, WE COULD ACTUALLY GET THE MOU TO KNOW IMMEDIATELY RIGHT AFTER THE COMMITTEE VETS IT TO DETERMINE WHAT WE DO IN THAT AREA AND WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS FOLLOWED THROUGH. FOR ME, I THINK IT WORKS CITYWIDE, IN REFERENCE TO THIS. AS LONG AS WE HAVE SOME SORT OF MOU IN PLACE WITH THE OTHER ENTITIES, BUT WE MIGHT NEED AN AMENDMENT FOR AN MOU TO MAKE SURE WE WOULD PROVIDE SERVICES AND FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE COMMITTEE DETERMINES. >>COUN. LEWIS: AGAIN, ANOTHER SOLUTION TO THIS, AGAIN, I'M SPEAKING ON THIS AMENDMENT, WOULD BE IF THE TASK FORCE ADDRESSED ONLY ISSUES THAT A COUNCILOR OR COMMISSIONER SUGGESTED, MAYBE THROUGH AN MOU OR SOMETHING, SAID WE'D LIKE YOU TO DISCUSS THIS ROADWAY, THIS CHECKERBOARD, IF THAT WAS IN THIS I THINK IT WOULD BE FINE CITYWIDE. I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH A TASK FORCE THAT IS MEETING QUARTERLY AND DISCUSSING ALL THESE ISSUES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHEREVER THEY WANT TO OR ANYWHERE THEY SEE A NEED. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WOULD THAT HELP GET THIS CITYWIDE IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT? >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR PEÑA, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE OPEN TO, THE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS AT THE REQUEST. MAYBE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AGENDA. THE AGENDA WOULD BE IN THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO LOOK AT THESE CERTAIN CHECKERBOARD AREAS, AND THAT WOULD BE THE FOCUS OF THAT TASK FORCE? >>COUN. PEÑA: I THINK -- MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK THAT'S THE INTENTION. THE LEGISLATION WAS PRETTY MUCH CITYWIDE. JUST LIKE IF WE, ONCE IN A WHILE, WILL SAY WE NEED A STREET LIGHT ON THE CORNER OF X AND Y IN YOUR DISTRICT, I'M SAYING I NEED IT IN MY DISTRICT. SO I WANTED TO PUT THIS RESOLUTION FORWARD AND IT HAD CITYWIDE, BUT WHEN THEY CONVENED I WOULD SAY I NEED THAT SIGNAL ON THE CORNER OF X AND Y. AND THE LEGISLATION WOULD BE IN PLACE TO WHERE ANY OTHER COUNCILOR CAN ASK FOR THE SAME THING. >>COUN. LEWIS: I GUESS IT JUST DOESN'T SAY THAT. AN AGENDA, RIGHT NOW, THAT COMMITTEE CAN TAKE ON ANYTHING THEY WANT, SO SOMETHING SIMPLE THAT WOULD SIMPLY SAY THEY WOULD DISCUSS THOSE ISSUES AT THE REQUEST OF A COUNCILOR OR COMMISSIONER IN THAT REGARD. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, POINT OF ORDER, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AMENDMENT ONE. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE ARE TALKING ABOUT YOUR AMENDMENT. WE'RE DISCUSSING THAT AMENDMENT. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE SPONSOR FOR THIS BILL. I BELIEVE IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND NEEDED. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENT BECAUSE I REALLY DO WANT IT TO BE CITYWIDE. I KNOW MY DISTRICT IS COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY OTHER DISTRICTS, BUT I HAVE A LOT OF SPACE AND OTHER TYPES OF OVERLAPPING JURISDICTIONS IN MY DISTRICT WITH ARROYOS. I WOULD LOVE TO GO TO AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND HAVE THEM HAVE INPUT LIKE YOU'RE EXPERIENCING IN DISTRICT FOUR FOR COUNCILOR BASSAN. SO, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS PUT IN PLACE. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE OTHER ENTITIES, IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET THIS PASSED AT THE CITY, I ENCOURAGE THE OTHER ENTITY TO PASS A RESOLUTION TO ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD ON SOME OF THESE THINGS. IT'S BEEN OUT THERE FOR SOME TIME. THIS IS A GREAT WAY FOR STARTING THAT PROCESS. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE TIME. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I DON'T HAVE COUNTY, BUT I HAVE STATE ISSUES. A LOT OF STATE LAND IN MY DISTRICT. AND THAT HAS BEEN LIKE PULLING TEETH TO GET ANYTHING DONE. WE JUST GOT ONE MOU FOR THE STATE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT TO CLEAN UP THE INTERSTATE. THAT WAS AWFUL HOW LONG THAT TOOK AND WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THE PARK'S MOU TO COME THROUGH. THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: [ INAUDIBLE ]. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS DOES. RIGHT NOW, NO ONE IS HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE CITY. THIS IS JUST ASKING STAFF FROM OUR STAFF TO COUNTY STAFF TO STATE STAFF TO COME TOGETHER AND START HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. MS. KEEFE, I KNOW YOU HAVE SIMILAR REFERENCE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT MIGHT GIVE US GUIDANCE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS IN REGARD TO YOUR COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT WHETHER THE TASK FORCE WOULD BE ADVISORY, I DO THINK THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE THAT CAN CLARIFY THAT OR CORRECT THAT. JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT'S ADVISORY AND NOT HAVING POWERS OF ITS OWN. DO YOU WANT ME TO DISCUSS THAT NOW? >>COUN. LEWIS: LET'S TAKE THAT UP IN A MINUTE. WE'LL RESOLVE THIS AMENDMENT FIRST. THANK YOU FOR THAT. BACK TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. YOUR AMENDMENT ON THE TABLE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST RECALL HEARING MORE THAN ONCE TONIGHT IF WE WANT SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY IN OUR DISTRICT THAT IT WOULD BE A WELCOME INVITATION TO CREATE OUR OWN LEGISLATION FOR IT, THEREFORE I BELIEVE WE SHOULD MAKE IT SPECIFIC TO DISTRICT THREE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED NO. ALL RIGHT. FAILS ON A 7-2. WE'LL GO ON. COUNCILOR BACA, I THINK YOU HAD A FLOOR SUB -- >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE AN AMENDMENT. IT'S IN EVERYBODY'S iPADS. ON PAGE THREE, LINE SEVEN, INSORT E, COMMITTEE SHALL EVALUATE AND RECOMMEND AREAS FOR POSSIBLE LAND FLAWS AND ANNEXATIONS FOR STREAMLIING SERVICES. THE REASON I ASK FOR THESE IS BECAUSE I HAVE THESE, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE SITUATION BEFORE WHERE SMALL PARCELS OF COUNTY LAND SURROUNDED BY CITY, IT WOULD BE MUCH -- OBVIOUSLY, IT WOULD HELP THE COUNTY TO TAKE THAT OFF THERE AND HELP US. OR VICE VERSA. AND THERE'S SECTIONS IN DISTRICT TWO, THAT EVERY OTHER HOUSE IS CITY COUNTY CITY COUNTY. IT'S RIDICULOUS. I'M REGULARLY GETTING THESE CALLS FOR MY TRASH ISN'T GETTING PICKED UP, AND IT'S LIKE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT PART OF THE CITY. SAME THING WITH ROADS. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WITH DEAL WITH. THERE'S SECTIONS WHERE YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD AND THE ENTIRE ROAD IS CITY, AND WE STARTED TO DO STRIPING, AND 300 YARDS DOWN THE ROAD, IT PICKS UP AGAIN. IT'S CONFUSING. IT'S BAD EFFICIENTLY. I IMAGINE IT'S ALSO A SAFETY ISSUE. THIS IS JUST A SMALL AMENDMENT TO ADD IN THAT RECOMMENDATION WHERE WE CAN DO SOME LAND SWAPS OR ANNEXATION. I MOVE AMENDMENT TWO. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. THAT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. THIS IS AMENDMENT TWO. OR IS IT ONE SINCE THE FIRST ONE DIDN'T PASS? OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? AGAIN, WE CAN VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT. I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS -- THIS OPENS IT UP FOR THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMITTEE IS SPECIFICALLY, AND WE'RE CALLING IT A COMMITTEE, BY THE WAY. IT HAS AN AGENDA NOW -- I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH A COUNTY COMMISSIONER BRINGING THIS TO AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN AN AREA IN MY DISTRICT. I DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE COUNCIL. AND IN EVALUATING AND TALK ABOUT LAND SWAPS IN MY DISTRICT. AGAIN, I GUESS THAT GOES BACK TO THE ENTIRE BILL, WHICH OPENS IT UP TO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THEY WANT TO DO. COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THIS AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO ON THE TABLE. MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I URGE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED NO. MOTION PASSES ON A 6-3. >>COUN. ROGERS: MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST NOTICED SOME TYPOS WE SHOULD FIX BEFORE -- ALSO I'D LIKE TO MOTION FOR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO FIX SOME TYPOS. PAGE TWO, LINE ITEM 13 AND 14, THE WORD ABOUT IS SPELLED INCORRECTLY. OH, MY BAD. THANK YOU. I WITHDRAW THAT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MS. KEEFE, DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT. >> I THINK THERE'S A BRIEF THING TO LANGUAGE CHANGES. THE FIRST IS 2-6-193C, WHERE IT SAYS DEVELOP PLANS AND PROCESSES, WHERE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S CREATING PLANS, THAT CAN BE CHANGED TO SUGGEST PLANS, OR IDENTIFY PLANS, OR SUGGEST PLANS AND IDENTIFY PROCESSES. SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, WE'RE IN THE SAME SECTION AND WE RECOMMEND DEVELOP NON-BINDING PLANS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I LIKE TO TAKE OUT THE WORD DEVELOPING. IT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE A COMMITTEE OR TASK FORCE FOR YOU TO DEVELOP CERTAIN DECISIONS. WE JUST TAKE OUT THAT WORD DEVELOPING, I THINK THE REST OF IT SAYS IT. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, SUGGEST OR PROPOSE MIGHT BE A BETTER WORD. >>COUN. LEWIS: USE SUGGEST OR PROPOSE INSTEAD OF DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AND D, WE HAVE THE COMMITTEE MAY HAVE OTHER DUTIES, RESPONSIBILITIES AND POWERS THAT MAY BE JOINTLY DELEGATED. THE WORD POWERS MIGHT IMPLY THIS COMMITTEE HAS CERTAIN AUTHORITIES THAT I DON'T KNOW IT HAS. IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER TAKING OUT, THE WORD POWERS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I SUGGEST WE TAKE OUT D. WHAT OTHER POWERS WOULD WE BE GIVING THEM? I WOULD SUGGEST THAT D BE REMOVED. AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? >> SECTION 2-6-19, 5. I DON'T REMEMBER THEM HAVING A CONTRACTING AUTHORITY. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY CONTRACT FOR WITH MUTT WHAT MONEY? >>COUN. LEWIS: WHAT SECTION? >> 2-6-19-5. >>COUN. LEWIS: HERE'S MY SUGGESTION ON AMENDMENT. WE CHANGE THE WORD TO SUGGEST OR PROPOSE, RATHER THAN DEVELOPING. WE TAKE OUT SECTION D. AND WE -- REALLY 2-16-19, REMOVE THAT AS WELL. I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT AS AN AMENDMENT. THOSE THREE CHANGES. >>COUN. ROGERS: MR. PRESIDENT, ON PAGE THREE, THERE'S ANOTHER MENTION OF POWERS. IT SAYS THE COMMITTEE MAY FORM WORKING GROUPS TO ASSIST WITH ASSIGNED DUTIES AND POWERS. PAGE FOUR, LINE ONE, DECISIONMAKING AUTHORITY PERTAIN TO THE SUBJECT MATTER SUBJECT OF THE WORKING GROUP. I JUST AM WONDERING IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POWERS, IT MENTIONS IT THAT AGAIN. >>COUN. LEWIS: DO YOU SEE THOSE LINE, MS. KEEFE? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I AGREE WITH THAT. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. STAFF, WE CHANGE THOSE TOO. TAKE OUT THE WORD POWERS, AUTHORITY, AND CHANGE IT TO SUGGESTIONS ADVISORY. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, CAN YOU TELL US THE LINES THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? >>COUN. ROGERS: PAGE THREE, STARTING AT LINE 31, INTO PAGE FOUR, LINE ONE. IT SAYS DECISIONMAKING AUTHORITY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ON G, REMOVE THE LAST TWO WORDS AND POWERS. COUNCILOR PEÑA, CAN I SUGGEST THOSE CHANGES AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? WOULD BE AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK COUNCILOR BACA HAD HIS HAND RAISED FIRST. >>COUN. BACA: YES. TWO QUESTIONS. ONE, CLARIFICATION ON WHICH SECTION YOU WANTED TO TAKE OUT. TWO, TO COUNCILOR ROGERS'S AMENDMENT, WHEN I READ D, THAT'S HAVING FOLKS AT THE TABLE THAT HAVE THE EXPERTISE. NOT THAT THEY WILL MAKE DECISIONS, BUT THEY'RE WITHIN THE HIERARCHY OF THE SYSTEM TO WHERE THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE THEY CAN PROPOSE REAL RECOMMENDATION AS OPPOSED TO YOU WILL DO THIS. I ARGUE OR ASK THAT WE NOT MAKE THAT SECTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: SAY THE SECTION AND WORDS AGAIN. COUNCILOR ROGERS JUST STATED TO TAKE OUT DECISIONMAKING AUTHORITY. >>COUN. BACA: I READ THAT AS THE COMMITTEES HAVE PERSONNEL WITH EXPERTISE IN THAT SUBJECT. AND SOMEONE WITH DECISIONMAKING AUTHORITY IS SOMEONE WHO SPENT DECADES IN THAT WORK AND THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THIS IS AN ADVISY COMMITTEE. THEY WON'T HAVE DECISIONMAKING AUTHORITY. >>COUN. ROGERS: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK -- >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: MAYBE IT JUST SAY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS. TO ME, THAT READS THEY'RE THE DECISIONMAKING AUTHORITY FOR THE WORKING GROUP. >>COUN. BACA: MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I READ IT AS BEING ABLE TO HAVE TOM ON THE COMMITTEE, NOT THAT HE MAKES THE DECISION, BUT HE JUST KNOWS HIS STUFF. THAT'S WHO YOU WANT ON A COMMITTEE. NOT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M WITH LEAVING THAT THERE. WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE SAYING. COUNCILOR PEÑA, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT INCLUDES THE CHANGES. >>COUN. PEÑA: I DON'T KNOW WHAT CHANGES. I WOULD HAVE TO HEAR THEM OUT, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD HAVE TO HEAR THE AMENDMENTS AGAIN. I JUST, MY FEAR IS THAT WE'RE -- WHAT STARTED OUT AS APPRECIATION FROM MY COLLEAGUES THAT THIS IS GOOD LEGISLATION, THAT WE'RE DWINDLING IT DOWN TO NOTHING. I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING. WE'RE NOT ASKING COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WE'RE ASKING THE STAFF AND COUNTY TO COME TOGETHER TO FIND SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON ISSUES THAT ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED IN OUR CITY IN MULTIPLE DISTRICTS. I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TO HEAR THOSE AMENDMENTS AGAIN IN THE ORDER THAT THEY'RE PROPOSED. MY FEAR IS THAT THIS DOESN'T EVEN REALLY DIRECT OUR STAFF TO WORK ON ANYTHING OR CANVAS ANYTHING. THE DECISIONS BEING MADE ARE NOT GOING TO BE MADE BY OUR STAFF. THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE TO ANY ENTITY, EITHER ONE OF THE ENTITIES TO MAKE THE DECISION. THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF GUIDING DOCUMENT TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON. OTHERWISE, THEY CAN MEET QUARTERLY TO TALK ABOUT THE WEATHER. YOU KNOW? SO, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS PREPARED. >>COUN. LEWIS: WHAT I WOULD OFFER TO IS WE DEFER THIS, GIVE OUR STAFF THE ABILITY TO WRITE UP AN AMENDMENT. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GIVING UP THE INTENT OF THIS. IT'S REALLY JUST SIMPLY DEFINING A LITTLE BIT MORE. I THINK SOME GOOD SUGGESTIONS FROM OUR ATTORNEY THAT MAKE THIS -- THAT LANGUAGE THAT PUTS IN WHERE THEY HAVE POWERS AND AUTHORITIES TO DO SOMETHING THEY MAY NOT INTEND THEM TO DO. OR TRULY BE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WITH LANGUAGE CHANGES, WE CAN SPECIFY THAT INTENT. IF YOU LIKE, WE COULD PUT THAT AMENDMENT TOGETHER IN A FEW WEEKS AND DEFER THIS UNTIL THEN. I GUESS I'LL ASK THE STAFF WHERE YOU'RE AT ON THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, WE'RE ALMOST READY WITH IT. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. I WOULD GO AHEAD AND MOVE A MOTION FOR DEFERRAL. BEFORE I DO THAT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL AMENDMENT IS, BUT I DO WANT TO TALK TO THE CONTRACTING AUTHORITY TO -- I URGE US TO LEAVE THAT IN. I AM LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS I WORK WITH REGULARLY WITH VARIOUS PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS. AND IT IS CLEARLY WRITTEN IN HERE IT'S THE COMMITTEE MEMBER AGENCIES THAT MAY INDIVIDUALLY OR JOINTLY FUND A CONTRACT FOR PROFESSIONAL, TECHNICAL SERVICES TO BE SUPPLIED TO THE COMMITTEE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY, VERY USEFUL FOR ALL OF THE THINGS I'M WORKING WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON IN MY DISTRICT. IF WE WANT TO JOINTLY DO A STUDY, OR WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ARROYO, ONE OF US HAS TO SEND THE MONEY TO THE OTHER, AND THEY HAVE TO CONTRACT AND SUDDENLY I DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY OVER THE CONTRACT BECAUSE IT'S AT THE COUNTY OR VICE VERSA. I SEE THIS CONTRACTING AUTHORITY AS A REALLY VALUABLE TOOL FOR THIS COMMITTEE. AGAIN, IF YEAR PARTNERING WITH SOMEBODY AND IT'S ONLY IF THE COMMITTEE MEMBER AGENCIES FUND IT, IT'S ONLY IF WE APPROPRIATE FUNDS TO IT, BUT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS COMMITTEE WORK WITH THOSE CONTRACTORS TO DO THE TECHNICAL FEASIBILITY STUDIES OR WHATEVER IS NEEDED TO COME TO US WITH A PROPOSAL IS REAL VALUABLE SERVICE. I LOVE IT IF WE CAN KEEP THAT IN THERE. IT JUST STREAMLINES THINGS AND MAKE IT SO MUCH SIMPLER THAN THE WAY WE HAVE TO DO THINGS NOW. >>COUN. LEWIS: WELL, I THINK THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HAVING MEMBERS THAT HAVE CONTRACTING AUTHORITY AND GIVING THAT COMMITTEE CONTRACTING AUTHORITY. I DON'T WANT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE CONTRACTING AUTHORITY WITH THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. IT HELPS TO CLARIFY AND TAKE A FEW WEEKS TO DO THAT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. I MOVE TWO-WEEK DEFERRAL. MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. DISCUSSION ON THE DEFERRAL? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. MOTION AND SECOND FOR TWO-WEEK DEFERRAL. THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. MOTION FAILS ON 5-4. BACK TO COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, I DON'T KNOW IF THE STAFF IS READY TO MOVE OUT THOSE AMENDMENTS. >> BASICALLY, BEGIN ON PAGE THREE, LINE THREE, SECTION TWO. LINE THREE REPLACE THE WORD DEVELOP WITH THE WORD PROPOSE. SO IT NOW WOULD READ PROPOSE PLAN PROCESSES TO IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICE DELIVERY TO THE BOUNDARY AREAS. PAGE THREE, LINE 31, WORKING GROUPS. THE COMMITTEE MAY FORM WORKING GROUPS TO ASSIST WITH ASSIGNED DUTIES AND ADD THE WORD RESPONSIBILITIES AND DELETE AND POWERS AT THE END. IT WOULD NOW READ, THE COMMITTEE MAY FORM WORKING GROUPS TO ASSIST WITH ITS ASSIGNED DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. >>COUN. ROGERS: MR. PRESIDENT, FOR POINT OF ORDER, CAN WE PLEASE GET THE AMENDMENTS ON THE SCREEN SO THE PEOPLE WATCHING AT HOME CAN SEE THAT? AND WE CAN SEE IT. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD SUPPORT THOSE AMENDMENTS. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MY APOLOGIES, THERE'S ONE I OMITTED. DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT NOW? >> ALSO PAGE THREE, LINE FIVE, WE DELETE THE LINE ITEM D, WHICH SAYS THE COMMITTEE MAY HAVE OTHER DUTIES, RESPONSIBILITIES, AND POWERS AS MAY BE JOINTLY DELEGATE BY THE MEMBER AGENCIES. THAT WOULD BE DELETED. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. >>COUN. LEWIS: AGAIN, HE READ THOSE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS ON THAT AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. AGAIN, I THINK THE FIRST COUPLE OF THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I WOULD SUPPORT IF THE SPONSOR DOES. BUT THAT CONTRACTING AUTHORITY IS A REALLY IMPORTANT THING IF WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER AND MOVE FORWARD ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS WITH EITHER AMAFCA OR THE COUNTY. >>COUN. LEWIS: BECAUSE I CAN'T READ THAT COMPLETELY, THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE DOESN'T GIVE CONTRACTING AUTHORITY TO THE COMMITTEE. IT IS SAYING THEY HAVE CONTRACTING AUTHORITY, RIGHT? COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, IT SAYS THE COUNCIL AND COUNTY COMMISSION HAVE TO APPROPRIATE MONEY FOR A CONTRACT. CURRENTLY, THE SECTION THAT SAYS COMMITTEE MEMBER AGENCIES THEY HAVE THE ABILITY FOR JOINTLY FUNDED CONTRACTS FOR PROFESSIONAL TECHNICAL ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES BE SUPPLIED TO THE COMMITTEE. SO, IF THAT'S PART OF THE AMENDMENT AND LEFT OUT, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO NEED TO GET APPROPRIATIONS FROM THIS BODY. >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT'S FINE IF THAT'S LEFT IN. THAT PART IS. THAT'S FINE. OKAY. THAT'S THE AMENDMENT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, CLARIFICATION. YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE LAST ONE THAT WAS READ? >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. AGAIN, BECAUSE THE CLARIFICATION AND THAT LANGUAGE THAT THE MEMBERS HAVE CONTRACTING AUTHORITY THEMSELVES. THEY'RE APART OF THAT COMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THOSE KINDS OF AUTHORITY, YOU KNOW? FINE WITH ME. AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ON THE AMENDMENT? I THINK WE CLARIFIED IT RIGHT THERE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED NO. MOTION PASSES. BACK ON THE BILL. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. >>COUN. LEWIS: CLOSE DISCUSSION ON THE BILL. THIS IS O-49. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED NO. MOTION PASSES. 8-1. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO O-50. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. O-50 IS AMENDING ROA TO REQUIRE WRITTEN RESPONSES TO QUESTIONS POSED DURING ADMIN AND QUESTION ANSWER PERIOD DURING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THIS BILL UPDATES THE EXISTING CITY ORDINANCE RELATED TO MEETINGS OF THE COUNCIL TO ADD REQUIREMENTS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION PROVIDE WRITTEN RESPONSES TO ALL QUESTIONS ASKED BY COUNCILORS DURING THE ADMIN QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. YOU'LL NOTE THAT ADMIN QUESTION AND ANSWER IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THE MEETING AND MAKE SURE THAT COMPLETE AND ACINTERINFORMATION IS PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL AND PUBLIC. THIS SECTION OF THE CODE REQUIRES THAT THE MAYOR OR THE REPRESENTATIVE HAVE HEARING ON BUDGET AND THE CITY ATTORNEY OR REPRESENTATIVE BE PRESENT ALL AT MEETINGS. THIS REQUIRES SUBSECTION THAT REQUIRES THE ADMINISTRATION TO RESPOND IN WRITING TO QUESTIONS ASKED BY CITY COUNCILORS WITHIN 10 BUSINESS DAYS FOLLOWING THE MEETING THE QUESTIONS WERE ASKED. THE COUNCIL WILL PROPOSE ALL QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. LET'S GO RIGHT TO OUR ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WE HAVE ANAMI SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. LET'S GO RIGHT TO THE AMENDMENT. WE HAVE A COUPLE SUGGESTED FLOOR AMENDMENTS. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'LL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. PAGE TWO LINE, FOUR, IT'S ADDING THE TWO SECTIONS. ONE FOR QUESTIONS SUBMITTED TO THE ADMINISTRATION ONE DAY PRIOR TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING THE ANSWER SHOULD BE PROVIDED DURING THE MEETING. IF A PRE-SUBMITTED QUESTION IS NOT PROVIDED, THE ADMINISTRATION SHALL PROVIDE A WRITTEN RESPONSE THAT SHALL BE DUE ONE BUSINESS DAY FOLLOWING THE MEETING. IT GOES TO SAY OTHER FOR QUESTIONS YOU THE 10-DAY ALLOWANCE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED AT COMMITTEE. YOU KNOW, IF WE FOLLOW THEIR RULES AND SUBMIT OUR QUESTIONS ON FRIDAY, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WAIT TEN DAYS AFTER THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO GET ANSWERS. I'LL MOVE THAT AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. QUESTIONS ON THE AMENDMENT? I WOULD JUST SAY, WE DON'T HAVE RULES REGARDING THAT, CORRECT? THERE ARE NO RULES REGARDING SUBMITTING QUESTIONS TO THE ADMINISTRATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO, SIR. I DIDN'T MEAN THAT THERE WERE RULES FOR THAT, I MEAN THEY SAY FOR US TO HAVE QUESTIONS IN ON FRIDAY, AND WHEN I DO THAT, I DON'T BELIEVE I SHOULD WAIT AN ADDITIONAL TEN DAYS TO GET THE ANSWER. >>COUN. LEWIS: SURE. THAT MAKES SENSE. COUNCILORS , DISCUSSION TO QUESTION? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: ON THIS AMENDMENT, DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT GOING TO ANSWER A QUESTION WHEN WE ASK IT IN COUNCIL DURING THAT DAY? I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTION WE WANT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, IT STILL SAYS IF WE ASK A QUESTION WHETHER IT WAS SUBMITTED IN ADVANCE OR NOT, THEY SHOULD ANSWER IT. THIS IS REALLY DEALING WITH IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER, IF IT WAS A PRE-SUBMITTED QUESTION, THEY HAVE A DAY. IF IT WAS NOT A PRE-SUBMITTED QUESTION THEY HAVE THE 10 DAY YOU ALLOWED IN THE ORIGINAL. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY, THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE TEN DAY, I LIKE THE AMENDMENT. I REALLY DON'T LIKE THAT WE SHOULD GET AN ANSWER TEN DAYS LATER. OFTENTIMES, I GET AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION AT 4:45 ON MONDAY AFTERNOON BEFORE A COUNCIL MEETING. AND WE HEAR THAT OFTEN. SO, I WISH THAT WE COULD GET THE ANSWERS SOONER. LIKE FIVE TO SEVEN DAYS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I'M OKAY WITH MAKING THAT AMENDMENT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT, I LEFT THAT IN AS WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY IN COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S BILL. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? WE'LL CLOSE THAT DISCUSSION. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT ON COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN'S AMENDMENT ONE, THAT IT WILL BE EVERYTHING AS WRITTEN ON THE AMENDMENT BUT THERE WILL BE THE ADDITIONAL CHANGE OF THE 10 TO A 7? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'M OPEN TO 7-DAY. I CAN AMEND MY AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO SAY UNDER SECTION TWO, THE SECOND TO THE LAST LINE, WHERE IT SAYS TEN BUSINESS DAYS, IT SAYS SEVEN BUSINESS DAYS. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. THAT'S THE AMENDMENT. ANY DISCUSSION? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: ANOTHER AMENDMENT. THIS ONE ALSO SAYS SHALL RESPOND IN WRITING TO ALL QUESTIONS BY COUNCILORS DURING THE ADMINISTRATIVE QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. THIS ONE HAS WRITING CROSSED OUT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT'S IN WRITING SO WE CAN ACTUALLY REFERENCE IT AT A LATER DATE, THE MEDIA CAN LOOK AT IT, AND ANY OTHER COUNCILORS THAT DIDN'T REMEMBER THE QUESTION YOU CAN SEE IT IN WRITING. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. >>COUN. LEWIS: ARE YOU ADDING THAT TO THE AMENDMENT? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO, IT WOULD STRICKEN OUT OF THE BILL. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT -- >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT IS PART OF THE BILL THAT -- >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'M NOT AMENABLE TO THAT AMENDMENT TO MY AMENDMENT. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE ASK QUESTIONS AND IF THEY ANSWER THEM IT'S ON THE RECORD, IT'S LITERALLY RECORDED AND PUT ONLINE FOR ANYONE TO REFERENCE. HAVING THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF SPEND TIME REWRITING ANSWERS THEY'VE ALREADY PROVIDED DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A GOOD USE OF ADMINISTRATION TIME, BUT I AM SAYING THEY SHOULD PROVIDE IN WRITING ANY QUESTIONS THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO ANSWER. >>COUN. LEWIS: SO THE AMENDMENT IS AS IT IS? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MY AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE IS WHAT IS PROVIDED IN YOUR iPAD WITH THE CHANGE FROM TEN BUSINESS DAYS TO SEVEN BUSINESS DAYS ON SECTION TWO. SECOND TO LAST LINE. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. AGAIN, BACK ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS ON THE AMENDMENT? WE'LL CLOSE THE DISCUSSION. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED NO. THAT MOTION PASSES. OTHER AMENDMENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN? >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MY APOLOGIES. THIS IS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, AMEND IT BY ADDING SUBSECTION. I SAID THAT NUMBER FOUR, SHALL SAY, IF THE WRITTEN RESPONSE IS ONLY REQUIRED WHEN A COUNCILOR ASKED A QUESTION THAT HAS A FACTUAL REQUEST FOR ANSWER. WRITTEN RESPONSES ARE NOT REQUIRED WHEN A COUNCILOR HAS A QUESTION THAT A PHILOSOPHICAL BASED ANSWER. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANY QUESTION OR DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: MY QUESTION IS WHO DECIDES IF IT'S FACTUAL OR OBJECTIVE? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT, IF I MAY. THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. I'LL GIVE EXAMPLES OF QUESTIONS I ASKED. IF I ASK WHY DOES THE ADMINISTRATION ASK IF IT'S OKAY TO MURDER PIGEONS. THEIR RESPONSE IS WHATEVER THEIR RESPONSE IS. IF I ASK HOW MANY PIGEONS ARE KILLED, AND WHO KILLED THEM, THOSE ARE FACTUAL POINTS. MY CONCERN IS WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO A ROUND-ROBIN OF I'M ASKING A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION TO DR. SENGEL, SHE TELLS ME HER ANSWER, I DON'T LIKE HER ANSWER BUT IT'S STILL HER ANSWER. WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT HAS HAPPENED MANY, MANY TIMES IS THAT WE ASK FOR DATA, AND WE'RE NOT PROVIDED THAT DATA. I THINK THAT IS WHAT THE INTENT OF THIS LEGISLATION WAS. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. THAT'S THE AMENDMENT. MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THIS WHOLE THING, IT'S FINE, I'M COOL WITH DOING ALL THIS. IT'S A LITTLE EMBARRASSING. THERE'S JUST AN EXPECTATION THAT THIS IS A PART OF A PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND WHEN THERE'S QUESTIONS OR FACTS AND KNOWLEDGE WE NEED TO HAVE OR JUST A DISCUSSION THAT'S MADE, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE TO IT. IF THE ADMINISTRATION NEEDS A LITTLE BIT LONGER, WE TRUST, THERE'S SOME TRUST HERE, THAT WILL TAKE A BIT LONGER TO DO THAT. AND A NON-ANSWER IS AN ANSWER IN MY OPINION. IF IT'S A NON-ANSWER THAT'S AN ANSWER. I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO PUT ALL THIS IN WRITING, BUT I GET IT. I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THERE'S A SENSE THAT JUST NOT HAVING TIMELY RESPONSES IN THAT REGARD. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE ONE FINAL THING TO SAY. I THINK PART OF THE REASON WE ASK QUESTIONS OF THE ADMINISTRATION IS SO THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR THE ANSWERS. AND ASKING THEM ALLOWS THEM A FOLLOW-UP. AND I'M AFRAID THAT SOME OF THIS IS GOING TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE PUBLIC EYE. THAT BOTHERS ME. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED. WE DON'T ALWAYS GET THE ANSWERS. AND WE TRY. ESPECIALLY, I KNOW MAJORITY OF US DO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE THE ANSWERS WE GET. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I APPRECIATE THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT WE HAD COMMUNICATION WITH COUNCIL REQUESTING QUESTION IN WRITING IN ADVANCE. MY GOAL WAS TO BE SURE WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOROUGH RESPONSES IN THE MEETINGS WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO. WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE INFORMATION IN TIME. WE RECEIVE QUESTIONS FROM SEVERAL COUNCILORS, OFTEN ON A FRIDAY IN WRITING IN ADVANCE. WE'RE TYPICALLY ALWAYS PREPARED TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. SOMETIMES THERE ARE FACTS OR DETAILS THAT ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO CONFIRM. I'M NOT A PROPONENT OF SURMISING IF WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD CITE THAT INFORMATION. THAT HAS BEEN THE REQUEST FROM MYSELF AND THE DIRECTORS IN CONSULTATION WITH THEM. WHEN WE'RE DELAYED PROVIDING AN ANSWER, IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO WITHHOLD. MANY TIMES IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO ENSURE THE INFORMATION WE HAVE IS FACTUAL WITH AS MANY EMPLOYEES WE HAVE AT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, ACROSS SO MANY DEPARTMENTS, THERE ARE MANY, MANY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT GIVE US GOOD INFORMATION FOR THE RESPONSES IN QUESTION. I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT OUR INTENT IS TO RESPOND WITH FACTUAL INFORMATION AND PROVIDE BACK IN A TIMELY FASHION. I INSTRUCTED YOUR DIRECTORS AND OTHERS TO RESPOND WITHIN 72 HOURS. AND TO LET YOU KNOW IF THEY NEED MORE TIME. AND ENSURING THAT IS NOT MEANT TO BE TO BUY MORE TIME, BUT WE NEED ADDITIONAL TIME. AND ADDITIONALLY, I THINK THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT STAFF HAS ACTUALLY STARTED A NEW PROCESS AFTER COUNCIL MEETINGS WHERE THEY HAVE SENT US EMAILS WITH THE QUESTIONS THEY BELIEVE ARE OUTSTANDING OR REMAIN OUTSTANDING. I THINK THAT HAS ALLOWED US TO ENSURE WE'RE RESPONSIVE TO THE QUESTIONS YOU ALL BELIEVE ARE OUTSTANDING. BECAUSE AT TIMES WE MAY BELIEVE WE HAVE ANSWERED A QUESTION. WE DO OFTEN REMIND THEM IF WE THINK WE ANSWERED ON THE RECORD. OF COURSE, THAT CAN BE A BACK AND FORTH. IT HAS BEEN AN AMENABLE AND APPROPRIATE INTERACTION BETWEEN COUNCIL STAFF AND OUR STAFF IN ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT, BUT IT'S UNFORTUNATELY THAT WE'RE DOING IT IN THIS WAY BECAUSE I THINK WE WORKED WELL ENSURING THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE SUBMITTED HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. AGAIN, ONLY INTENTION IS WE MAKE SURE WE'RE PROVIDING ACCURATE INFORMATION ON THE RECORD AND ENSURE YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO USE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: DOES THE ADMINISTRATION SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I THINK, UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THIS IS AN UNFORTUNATE MOVE TO ATTEMPT TO BIND US IN A WAY THAT IF THERE WAS ANOTHER ADMINISTRATION AND OTHER COUNCILORS, IT MAY NOT BE THE WAY ANYONE WOULD WANT THAT TO BE. I THINK THE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE HAD RECENTLY IN TERMS OF ASSURING WE'RE FINDING RESPONSES IS A BETTER WAY FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER AND A BETTER WAY TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MY AMENDMENT IS STILL ON THE TABLE. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION IF THEY SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THIS AMENDMENT. I THINK THAT THE BACK AND FORTH OF OPINIONS IS NOT NECESSARILY THE MOST USEFUL FOR US TO USE OUR TIME AFTER THE FACT. I APPRECIATE THIS CLARIFICATION CREATES A FACTUAL INTERACTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS IS THE SECOND AMENDMENT. IT'S MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? WE'LL CLOSE THAT. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES, RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSEDED NO. MOTION PASSES ON 6-3. BACK TO THE BILL. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. BASED ON WHAT MS. SENGEL SAID, THERE'S STILL QUESTIONS THAT I'VE ASKED THAT STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ANSWERED. WE HEARD THAT EARLIER TODAY IN THE MEETING, SEVERAL TIMES. IT WAS BROUGHT IN DISCUSSION WE'VE ASKED QUESTIONS AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS. THIS BILL IS VERY MUCH NEEDED. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH AND SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO START HOLDING THE ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE TO GETTING US, AS COUNCILORS AND THE PUBLIC, THE ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE. IT'S ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. IT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE PUBLIC, THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY PAY OUR BILLS AND PAY FOR OUR SERVICES, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DIRECT IN ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS. AND ANYTHING THAT'S ASKED BY -- IN PUBLIC, SHOULD BE ANSWERED IN PUBLIC. WE ALSO HAVE ASK QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME DURING THE EARLY PART OF THE MEETING, AND SOMETIMES THOSE QUESTIONS DON'T GET ANSWERED IN TIME FOR THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE TO WAIT EIGHT HOURS TO HEAR THE ANSWER. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THESE ANSWERS. IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD HAVE SOMEBODY HANGING OUT IN THE BACKGROUND AND WOULD ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED, AND THE NEXT MEETING AT THE DAIS BRING THESE UP AND SAY HERE'S THE QUESTION YOU ASKED LAST WEEK AND WE'RE ANSWERING THEM TODAY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ANSWER THEM TO YOU IN EITHER EMAIL OR WE DIDN'T ANSWER IN PERSON. THIS BILL IS VERY, VERY MUCH NEEDED. I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC HEARS WHAT -- THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE. AND ALSO GET THE RESPONSES THAT ARE NEEDED THAT THEY DESERVE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CLOSE DISCUSSION. THIS IS O-50. AS AMENDED. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED NO. MOTION PASSES 7-2. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO ITEM E. O-53. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: AMENDING CHAPTER TWO ARTICLE TWO TO INCLUDE NEW LANGUAGE FOR PREPARING THE CITY'S FEDERAL AND STATE LEGISLATION. SO, I THINK WE HAVE TOM. TOM, I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T THINK YOU ON THE OTHER LEGISLATION YOU WORKED HARD ON. I APPRECIATE THAT. I'LL LET YOU DISCUSS THIS. I MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF O-53. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, I DIRECTED TO THEM TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW. >> MY QUESTION IS DO YOU WANT ME TO GO OVER IT OR READ THE AMENDMENT IN THE RECORD? -- SO, BASICALLY, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES IS IT MAKES THREE CHANGES. ONE, IS THAT IT CHANGES THE WORD -- WE HAVE A MIX OF WORDS TO DESCRIBE A PROGRAM. AGENDAS, REQUESTS AND PROGRAMS. THIS GOES AHEAD AND COMPILES THE -- COMBINES -- >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, MR. PRESIDENT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S BEEN A MOTION FOR THE AMENDMENT. I BELIEVE THE MOTION WAS FOR THE BILL. AND THAT WE WERE GETTING -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR PROCESS AND THE RULES THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING ALONG PROPERLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: IT'S FINE. I THINK COUNCILOR PEÑA MOVED THE BILL. THERE'S A PENDING FLOOR AMENDMENT CORRECT? MR. MENACUCCI IS GIVING AN OVERVIEW. >> MY APOLOGIES, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, DID I MISUNDERSTAND? >>COUN. PEÑA: NO, MR. PRESIDENT. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GO OVER THE AMENDMENT. WE HAVEN'T MADE A MOTION. GO OVER THAT AND WE'LL GO OVER IT. >> I APOLOGIZE. BASICALLY, WHAT THE BILL DOES IS IT MAKES THREE CHANGES. ONE IS IN O-90, WE INTRODUCED THREE TERMS, AGENDAS, REQUESTS AND PROGRAMS. WE'RE TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE THAT. THOSE WORDS ARE CONSOLIDATED INTO THE WORD PROGRAMS. THERE'S A STATE LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM THAT WILL INCLUDE REQUESTS. THERE'S A NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS WHERE THE WORDS ARE MOVED AROUND AND MAKE THAT GO FORWARD. THAT'S FOR STATE AND FEDERAL. THE SECOND ITEM WOULD BE THAT WE CLARIFY THE DEFINITION. SO THE DEFINITION IS SHORTENED TO REFLECT IT'S A LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM. AND THE THIRD ONE, THE MORE SIGNIFICANT ONE THAT WAS DISCUSSED BY THE COUNCIL AND REQUESTED BY THE COUNCIL AT THE LAST MEETING, WHAT THAT DOES IS REMOVED THE PROVISION WHERE IT WOULD BE A RESOLUTION THAT WAS VOTED UP OR DOWN, AND THE RESOLUTION WOULD HAVE FLOOR AMENDMENTS, ATTACHMENTS, ONE FOR THE MAYOR, ONE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION, ONE FOR THE COUNCIL. THAT WOULD BE CHANGED. NOW, THE IGR WOULD REVIEW AND SEND FORWARD AN EC, OR BECAUSE THE MAYOR SENDS FORWARD WITH THE EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION WITH AN ATTACHMENT. THE COUNCIL WOULD FORWARD AN EC, THAT CAN EITHER COME FROM THE SPONSORING COUNCILOR, OR THE COUNCILORS ON THE IGR OR COUNCILOR AGENDA. THAT WOULD BE FOR THE STATE AND FEDERAL PROGRAM. THAT WOULD BE THE PROGRAM. THE CHANGE WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS. AS IT STANDS NOW, COUNCIL STAFF IN THE COUNCIL'S PERSPECTIVE WOULD APPROACH THE COUNCILORS EARLY ON. AND SAY, WE ARE REQUESTING YOUR LIST OF PROJECTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO PROJECTS LEGISLATIVE REQUESTS WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO THE LEGISLATURE. THEY WILL COMPILE THAT, THE MAYOR'S STAFF WILL DO IT ON THE MAYOR'S END. THE IGR'S RESPONSIBILITY WON'T BE BEFORE US TO LIMIT THE RESPONSE OF PRIORITIES, IT WOULD BE TO HOW TO ORGANIZE IT. HOW TO ORGANIZE IN CATEGORIES OR COUNCIL DISTRICT. THAT WOULD COME FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL IN EC OR OC AND IT WILL BE RECEIPT BE NOTED. THAT'S HOW THE PROCESS WILL GO FORWARD. BASICALLY, YOU GIVE THE LEGISLATURE SAYING THESE ARE THE LEGISLATIVE PROGRAMS, PROJECTS THAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH THE STATE OR WORKING WITH WITH THE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION. AND IT'S BEEN NOTED AS OFFICIAL DOCUMENT OF THE CITY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. YOU HAD THE RED LINE VERSION UP. I'M ASSUMING THE RED LINE INCLUDES THE AMENDMENT. COUNCILOR PEÑA, DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THE AMENDMENT? >>COUN. PEÑA: YES, MR. PRESIDENT. I'LL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. LEWIS:. OKAY FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE IS THE REZ LINE VERSION. SO WE NEED A SECOND ON THAT. SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, NOT THE FLOOR SUB, IT'S THE AMENDMENT. WHAT WAS ON YOUR SCREEN, IT'S SHOWED WHAT IS BEING CHANGED. FLOOR AMENDMENT IS JUST THE AMENDMENT, THE RED DESIGNATES WHAT'S BEING CHANGED IN THE BILL. IT'S AN AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THE RED LINE IS THE FLOOR AMENDMENT. GOT IT. OKAY. THAT'S BEEN MOVED. WE NEED A SECOND. COUNCILOR GROUT SECONDED. WE'RE DISCUSSING FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. O-53. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? ON THE AMENDMENT. OKAY. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. NO SPEAKERS. ADMINISTRATION, ANY COMMENT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, I APPRECIATE COUNCILOR PEÑA'S WORK ON THIS AMENDMENT. IT OUTLINES OUR INTENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CLOSE DISCUSSION. COUNCILOR PEÑA, ANYTHING ELSE? >>COUN. PEÑA: URGE YOUR SUPPORT ON THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'LL GO TO THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. OPPOSED NO. MOTION PASSES. THIS IS O-53 AS AMENDED. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE BILL? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I COMPLETELY APPLAUD COUNCILOR PEÑA FOR DOING THIS. I REALLY HOPE THAT IT ACHIEVES THE RULE GRUELLING PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN INEFFECTIVE, AND CONFUSING HAVE MANY YEARS. I'M VERY MUCH HOPING THIS WILL PASS. I BELIEVE IT'S OUR INTENTION THAT IF THIS PASSES IT WILL SOLVE PROBLEMS WHILE STILL NOTIFYING THE PUBLIC, CITY, STATE, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, OF OUR PRIORITIES AND DREAMS AND GOALS OF OUR PROGRAMS THAT ARE DESIRED. AND COUNCILOR GROUT AND I WILL BE INTERESTED IN WITHDRAWING R-99 TO GET AHEAD OF THAT SO THERE'S NO PENDING CONFUSION. IF THIS PASSES, WE DON'T NEED THAT ANYMORE. THIS, I THINK, IS A GREAT WORK AROUND TO SAY I MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYBODY'S HOPES AND DREAMS AND DESIRES, BUT THAT I ALSO HAVE NOTED THE RECEIPT THAT THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN. I WILL SAY THAT IT ALSO IS STILL ONE OF MY DESIRES FOR WORLD PEACE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT IF THE ORDINANCE DOES PASS, THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO DEFER THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T BECOME LAW. RATHER THAN WITHDRAW THE RESOLUTION, WE RECOMMEND DEFERRING TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE JUST FOUND A COUPLE OF HICCUPS, AND I HAPPENED TO COME IN AND FIX THOSE. I THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK. IT'S LIKE HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE. I THINK THE PUBLIC HAS SEEN A BIT OF THAT TONIGHT. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK ON IT. I APPRECIATE IT. I THINK THIS IS GOING TO HELP US TO GO TO SANTA FE WITH ALL OF OUR RESPECTIVE PRIORITIES BECAUSE SOMETIMES I GET ASKED A QUESTION FROM THE DISTRICT. I ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING I'M GOING TO AND I'M ASKED MY PRIORITIES. I HATED TO PASS LEGISLATION THAT I HAD TO GIVE MY TOP THREE BECAUSE THE 20 ARE REALLY MY PRIORITY. SO, I THINK THIS REALLY HELPS US TO GO OUT AND ARMED WITH THE TOOL OF BEING ABLE TO WORK ON ALL THE MULTITUDE OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DISTRICT. I THINK THE MAIN PART OF IT IS THAT WE'LL ALL BE ABLE TO GIVE TO OUR DIRECTOR WHAT ARE THE THREE PRIORITIES THAT OUR LOBBYISTS CAN WORK ON. I THINK THAT REALLY HELPS TO PUT THE FOCUS SO WE'RE NOT ALL OVER THE MAP. I THINK IT ACHIEVES THE GOAL OF BEING MORE CONSOLIDATED. THANK YOU, LADIES, FOR OUR WORK. I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. OPPOSED NO. MOTION PASSES. ITEM F. R-99. COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVE TO DEFER IT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, TECHNICALLY THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS JUST PASSED DOES NOT BECOME LAW INTO THE MAYOR SIGNS. >>COUN. GROUT: UNDERSTAND. WE WAIT FOR IT TO BE SIGNED. I GOT IT. MR. PRESIDENT, R-99, I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER FOR TWO WEEKS. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. SECONDED BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE DEFERRAL? WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. R-99. DEFERRAL FOR TWO WEEKS. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. OPPOSED NO. MOTION PASSES. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: R-89 IS DIRECTING THE CITY ADMIN TO DEVELOP A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY THAT ENSURES APPROPRIATE USE OF OFFICIAL CITY SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. LISA FOLLOWED BY JULIE ON ZOOM. >> GOOD EVENING. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON 99, BUT WILL DO THAT IN TWO WEEKS. NO WORRIES, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S ACTUALLY WHAT YOU DID. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO SIT OUT HERE WHILE YOU'RE CHANGING THE AND. FOR THE BILL, I FIND FOR THE ONE BEFORE, IF I KNEW 99 WAS GOING TO BE CROSSED OUT. COUNCILOR PEÑA IS VERY MUCH EXPLAINING WHAT -- ONE OF THEM, I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT TO ASK ABOUT ROADS. THERE'S A ROAD TWO BLOCKS FROM MY HOUSE, THERE'S ONE PART OF IT, BEAUTIFUL SPACIOUS, LIGHTS, AND THE NEXT ONE HAS A SCHOOL ON IT AND I'VE BEEN -- YOU CAN SAY WHETHER I'VE BEEN EMAILINGING FOR PROBABLY SIX MONTHS, AND THE PROBLEM ON THAT STREET THAT HAS A SCHOOL ON IT AND NO SIDEWALK AND IT'S DIRT AND OLD PEOPLE ARE GOING WITH THEIR LITTLE WALKERS AND THE KIDS, ALMOST GETTING HIT AS THEY'RE TRYING TO WALK TO SCHOOL ON THE DIRT, OUR PROBLEM IS THE CITY-COUNTY. WE CAN'T GET IT FIXED. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA, SHE'S DONE AS MUCH AS SHE CAN. THE PROBLEM WE FIND IS WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE CITY, COUNTY AND NOBODY CAN GIVE US ANSWERS. I'M JUST A TEACHER TRYING TO GET MY KIDS NOT HIT BY A CAR. IT'S SO FRUSTRATING WHY WE CAN'T GET SIDEWALK. IT TURNS OUT BECAUSE THE ROAD IS ON DIFFERENT LAND. I AM VERY MUCH IN THE PUBLIC AND WATCHING THIS. I TAKE AWAY MY COMMENT FROM BEFORE I REALLY HAD NOTHING GOOD TO SAY. WATCHING THIS, YOU GUYS ARE GREAT. I LOVE HOW YOU'RE WORKING TOGETHER EVEN THOUGH YOU DISAGREE. WATCHING YOU ALL HAMMER THROUGH THESE THINGS IS VERY ENTRUSTING. I REALLY VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S VERY PAINFUL, BUT THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE'LL TALK TO 99. FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M SORRY -- >>COUN. LEWIS: I'LL GIVE YOU PLENTY OF TIME. ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK ON R-89. >> YES. R-89, AS I SHARED WITH COUNCILOR GROUT. I AM ONE OF THOSE THAT ENGAGED ON X OR TWITTER, BLUE SKY IS WHERE EVERYBODY'S GOING. I HAVE BEEN ON TWITTER AND I SHARED HOW DURING THE BLM MOVEMENT IT WAS SO EASY TO PROVOKE THE CITY, YOU KNOW, THAT MAN, ON TWITTER. LITERALLY, I COULD JUST TWEET HIM, AND HE WOULD RESPOND BACK WITH CRAZINESS. IT WAS SO EASY. AND WE WOULD GET OUR GROUPS TO INTENTIONALLY RESPOND TO THAT, JUST TO GET HIM GOING. I VERY MUCH AM EXCITED ABOUT A POLICY WHERE MY CITY IS PROFESSIONAL AND HAS JUST GIVING FACTS, AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS GO TO YOUR COUNCILORS, ET CETERA. TRULY, I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW EASY IT WAS TO JUST TEXT AND MESSAGE BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY CHECKING. IF YOU HAVE -- IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO HAVE A BOT BE IN CHARGE OF THE CITY ACCOUNTS BECAUSE THE BOT WON'T GET TRIGGERED AND WHEN THE BOT SEES US ON THE STREET BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE COMMENT, WHEN I SEE HIM ON THE STREET, THEN WE GOT MORE COMMENTS. LIKE EVERY TIME I SEE THIS INDIVIDUAL, IT GOES FROM SOCIAL MEDIA TO IN THE PUBLIC. IF WE CAN SOMEHOW MANAGE -- IF YOU NOTICE WHEN THE CITY ACCOUNTS STOPPED TWEETING, GUESS WHAT EVERYONE ELSE STOPPED TWEETING? MYSELF INCLUDED. I CAN BE PROFESSIONAL COMMUNITY AND NOT CALL OUT, HEY YOU STINK AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, I REALLY APPRECIATE. I HAPPILY SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE YOU ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BECAUSE WE INCLUDE NOT JUST THE PROFESSIONAL COMMUNICATION PERSON, BUT ALSO ANYONE FROM THE CITY WHO IS REPRESENTING THE CITY. THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, JULIE IS NO LONGER ON ZOOM. THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. SO, WE'RE ON R-89. WE DEFERRED R-99. I KNOW THE MOTION IS ON THE TABLE FOR R-89. WE DID HAVE A FEW PUBLIC SPEAKERS. I THINK THEY WERE HERE ON R-99. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS APPROPRIATE. CAN WE PAUSE REAL QUICK AND MAKE SURE THEY SPEAK. WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IF WE WANT TO. >> YES, IT'S THE WILL OF THE PRESIDENT AND COUNCIL. >>COUN. LEWIS: LET ME ASK BEFORE I MOVE TO TABLE IT. DO WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS HERE TO SPEAK? IF THEY WANT TO, I BELIEVE I'LL GIVE THEM THAT OPTION. >> WE HAVE LISA AND THERESA WHO IS NOT PRESENT. AND MARSEN. THOSE ARE THREE SPEAKERS. ARE YOU IN THE CHAMBERS? ALL RIGHT. MY APOLOGIES. I'M GOING TO MOVE TO TABLE R89. IT'S SECONDED. AND WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THAT. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. OPPOSED NO. ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES ON A 8-1. ALL RIGHT. THAT BILL IS TABLED. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS. YOU WILL GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON THIS WHEN WE HEAR IT AT THE NEXT MEETING AS WELL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. >> I'D LIKE THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THERE'S ALREADY IN OTHER COMMUNICATION THAT HAS BEEN INTRODUCED AND HELD OVER FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING THAT WILL SHOW COUNCIL PRIORITIES. AND I EXPECT AS LONG AS THIS ORDINANCE BECOMES LAW WE RECEIVE AN EC FROM THE ADMINISTRATION THAT WE WOULD ACT AT THE FOLLOWING COUNCIL MEETING. AS PEOPLE COME UP TO SPEAK, I JUST WANT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THERE'S NO MOTION ON THE TABLE. I GUESS WE CALL THIS PRESIDENT'S TIME. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE LISA FOLLOWED BY THERESA FOLLOWED BY MARSEN. >> I REMEMBERED. WHAT I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT IS AN THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. NOWHERE UNDER THE STRENGTHENING AND COLLABORATING SECTION OF THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES, AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WITH ANYTHING THAT PROVIDES THINGS TO PEOPLE OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND ABUSE THAT IS SEXUAL IN NATURE. I'M PLEASED THE CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZED THE ENTITIES ON WITH WORK ON THE GROUND FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS UNHOUSED. I DID NOT SEE WHERE THERE WAS MONEY SET ASIDE FOR PROGRAMS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR SEXUAL ASSAULT BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO IMPACTED BY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, THE CYCLE, THE KIDS SEE IT AND THE VIOLENCE CONTINUES. AND YOU END UP UNHOUSED. SO, WE NEED SAFE HOUSES, WE NEED MORE RESOURCES FOR VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. THAT TRAUMA HAS LONG-LASTING CONSEQUENCES. NOT JUST BECAUSE I'M AN EDUCATOR, I DEAL SPECIFICALLY WITH THAT POPULATION. IT'S A CYCLIC TYPE OF SYSTEM. I REALLY ENCOURAGE -- WE HAVE KIDS WITH GUNS, AND THEY SAW AND EXPERIENCED ALL THIS VIOLENCE. WHAT CAN WE DO TO INTERVENE EARLY ON? I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO PLEASE LOOK AT ADDING -- I'M NOT SURE, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE GIVEN ALL OF YOUR THREE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE MAYOR NEEDS TO ADD SOMETHING FOR FUNDING SOME SORT OF PROGRAM OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. >> THERESA FOLLOWED BY MARSEN. MARSEN. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR THE TIME, COUNCILOR LEWIS. I APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST WANT TO -- I CAME TO TALK ABOUT THE ENCAMPMENT POLICY. I'LL SAVE THOSE WORDS FOR TOMORROW'S MEETING. AND SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. BUT THE LAST TIME, I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW EASY AND DOABLE AID IS. YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES, YOU GUYS ARE THE PEOPLE WITH THE MONEY AND POWER AND RESOURCES. WE ARE DOING THIS STUFF ON THE GROUND LEVEL WITH NO MONEY, NO POWER, JUST IN OUR COMMUNITIES. AND WE'RE MAKING A DIFFERENCE. IMAGINE WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF YOU GUYS GOT INVOLVED ON THE GROUND LEVEL. IF YOU MET PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT. IF WE HAD ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE HANDING OUT FOOD TO PEOPLE ON THE STREET. IF WE HAD PEOPLE DOING WHAT WE DO, DOING THE WORK THAT WE CAN DO. I'M NOT SITTING HERE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, PUT MYSELF ON A PEDESTAL. I MEAN, GIVING OUT FOOD ISN'T THAT HARD. I'M GOING TO DO IT WHEN I DRIVE HOME TONIGHT. I'M GOING TO DO IT THIS WEEK. IT'S DOABLE. WE DO IT AT THE GROUND LEVEL. SO THE CITY, WITH ALL ITS MONEY AND ABILITIES, AND THE ABILITIES TO DO OTHER THINGS, CAN SEND OUT TEAMS TO DELIVER NEEDED GOODS TO PEOPLE. WHILE I HAVE YOUR TIME, I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME IDEAS I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE THAT THE NEED IS. PUBLIC STORAGE IS A BIG THING. WHEN YOU'RE UNHOUSED AND YOU'RE SCARED ABOUT LEAVING YOUR ITEMS SOMEWHERE, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THEM EVERYWHERE. THAT'S WHY PEOPLE HAVE SHOPPING CARTS. THAT'S WHY PEOPLE HAVE ALL OF THEIR BELONGINGS ON THEM. IF WE GAVE THEM PUBLIC AMENITY TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT STUFF AWAY. ANYWAY, SAFE OUTDOOR AREAS. UPDATE RESOURCES. YOU HAVE A MEAL THING ON YOUR WEBSITE AND IT'S OUTDATED. I CAN PROBABLY UPDATE IT AND WILL TRY TO UPDATE IT AND HARD COPY TO GIVE TO UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS. IT'S OUTDATED. IT HAS MEALS AND PLACES THAT ARPT AREN'T OPEN OR DON'T SERVE BREAKFAST OR LUNCH. ALSO IDs, THEY'RE IMPORTANT. PEOPLE REALLY STRUGGLE GETTING IDs, IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO GET JOBS AND BECOME A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, BE APART OF THIS WHOLE THING, YOU HAVE TO MAKE AN EASY WAY FOR PEOPLE WHO LOST DOCUMENTS. A LOT OF TIMES IN SWEEPS, CONDUCTED BY THE CITY, TO REGAIN DOCUMENTS. WE HAVE TO HELP PEOPLE OUT. THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, IF I CAN ASK A QUESTION OF THE ADMINISTRATION. PUBLIC STORAGE. I THOUGHT WE WERE RENTING SOME STORAGE FOR FOLKS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, WE PROVIDE STORAGE OF ITEMS AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOU A BETTER DESCRIPTION OF HOW WE'RE DOING THAT. WE DO HAVE A STORAGE LOCATION THAT WHEN WE CLEAR WE OFFER THE OPTION FOR INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE THEIR ITEMS STORED. AND THAT IS PUT INTO A SPECIFIC TYPE OF CONTAINER. AND WE STORE THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. AND ALSO, UPDATING THE RESOURCES, IF WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ACTION? ANYTHING ELSE? WE'RE NOT ON ANYTHING ELSE. OKAY. NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE R-89. WE NEED TO MOVE THAT AGAIN. >>COUN. GROUT: MOVE THAT AGAIN. UNTABLE R-89. >>COUN. LEWIS: UNTABLE, SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. IT'S BACK ON THE TABLE AND MOVED AND SECONDED. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE. AND THE LONG AND THE SORT OF IT IS WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE THOUGHTFUL IN OUR RESPONSES WHEN WE REPRESENT THE CITY. AND IN THIS DAY AND TIME, EVERYTHING THAT WE WRITE DOWN NEEDS TO BE RESPECTFUL. IT NEEDS TO BE KIND, IT NEEDS TO BE FACTUAL. WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND RIGHTLY SO, THAT ARE FRUSTRATED. THEY TAKE IT OUT. AND THEY CAN. THAT'S THEIR PREROGATIVE. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE ARE REPRESENTING THE CITY, AS EELECTED OFFICIALS, AS COMMUNICATION DIRECTORS, THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE THE HIGHER ROAD. MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS HELPFUL, FACTUAL, AND IT'S RESPECTFUL. PEOPLE ARE HURTING. BUSINESSES, HOMES GETTING BROKEN INTO, ALL KINDS OF THINGS. WE JUST HAVE TO TAKE THE HIGHER ROAD. THE CITY DOES HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY, BUT WHAT IT DOESN'T DO IS DO MUCH TO ADDRESS WHAT'S APPROPRIATE TO POST UNDER THE CITY BANNER. SO, THIS RESOLUTION DIRECTS THE ADMINISTRATION TO DEVELOP A POLICY FOR SOCIAL MEDIA THAT SETS EXPECTATIONS FOR APPROPRIATE BEHAVIORS, SPECIFIES APPROPRIATE CONTENT, PROHIBITS PERSONAL ATTACKS, SETS GUIDELINES FOR APPROPRIATE RESPONSES TO NEGATIVE, MISLEADING, OR INFLAMMATORY COMMENTS. AND IT NEEDS TO DEFINE DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS THAT WILL BE TAKEN IF THE POLICY ISN'T FOLLOWED. WHETHER OR NOT WE THINK THAT SNAPPING BACK AT A CONSTITUENT, A TAX-PAYING CITIZEN IS OKAY, IT'S NOT. WE NEED TO -- THERE'S ALWAYS A WAY YOU CAN RESPOND. AND IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE UGLY. THE RESOLUTION DIRECTS THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY ACCESSIBLE ON THE CITY'S TRANSPARENT WEBSITE. I'M SAD THAT WE HAVE TO BRING THIS FORWARD. LAST YEAR, WE HAD AN INCIDENT AT THE TIME THE -- I BROUGHT IT UP, AND YOUR COUNCIL PRESIDENT AT THE TIME, HE WAS PRETTY UPSET. AND HE HAD A RIGHT TO BE. I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED WHEN IT HAPPENED AGAIN. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS BILL, I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO SUPPORT IT. BUT WE CAN'T FORGET THAT OUR STREETS ARE FULL OF FENTANYL. WE HAVE POLICE SHOOTING IN THE BACK SEAT OF POLICE CARS. WE HAVE OFFICERS SHOOTING CITIZENS, OFFICERS SHOOTING OFFICERS. WE HAVE VERY, VERY BIG ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON IN OUR CITY. I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT UPSET THAT THIS IS -- THIS BILL DOESN'T ADDRESS THE ISSUES IN MORE OF A DYNAMIC FASHION. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT, BUT WE ALREADY KNOW THIS IS THE GILBERT GALLEGOS BILL. HE'S ATTACKED PEOPLE, ATTORNEYS, BUSINESS OWNERS. THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN MADE PUBLIC. WE ALSO HAD A FORMER CITY COUNCILOR, COUNCILOR DAVIS WHO SAID HE WANTED TO DEFUND THAT POSITION. THESE THINGS ARE VERY BIG THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH INTEGRITY AND THE WAY OUR CITY RUNS, AND IN MY OPINION THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINE. AND WE SHOULDN'T BE DEALING WITH THIS RIGHT NOW. THIS INDIVIDUAL SHOULD HAVE BEEN GONE A LONG TIME AGO. I KNOW I'M NOT ON THAT SIDE AND CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION, WE ALL KNOW THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. WHEN I SEE THIS BILL, I SEE A BILL WHERE THE ADMINISTRATION HASN'T ADDRESSED IT. IT FALLS ON THE LAP OF THE POLICE CHIEF FOR LETTING THIS GO ON AND ON, THIS FALLS ON THE LAP OF THE CAO FOR HER FAILURE TO PROPER MANAGE THE POLICE CHIEF, AND IT ALSO GOES STRAIGHT BACK TO THE MAYOR FOR IGNORING A MAJOR PROBLEM THAT HAS BEEN MADE. SO, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS BILL. AND I THINK IT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT EACH ONE OF US HERE ON THE DAIS SUPPORT THIS AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE STRONGER AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND IF THAT MEANS GETTING TOGETHER AND GETTING RID OF THE POLICE CHIEF, THEN WE NEED TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST A PROCEDURAL QUESTION FOR OUR STAFF. CAN WE DEFUND THAT POSITION RIGHT NOW? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, EVEN IF YOU DEFUND THE POSITION, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU REMOVE THE POSITION. THAT'S AN EXECUTIVE FUNCTION. >>COUN. ROGERS: THAT'S OKAY. >> IF YOU DEFUND IT IN THIS BILL, WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE TITLE. PROBABLY BEST TO INTRODUCE ANOTHER PIECE OF LEGISLATION OR WORK WITH THE BUDGET. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, I'D LOVE TO WORK WITH THE STAFF TO DO THAT. >>COUN. LEWIS: DISCUSSION ON THE BILL? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I'M NOT QUITE CLEAR WHAT RESTORATIVE ACTIONS ARE, NUMBER SEVEN, UNDER THE PAGE 7. CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE FURTHER OUTLINED WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION ACTUALLY DEVELOPS THE POLICY. BUT, AS WRITTEN I THINK THE INTENT IS IT ADDRESS WAYS TO CORRECT WRONGDOINGS THAT WERE TAKING PLACE ON SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS. WHETHER THAT'S A CORRECTION TO MISINFORMATION THAT WAS POSTED, OR AN APOLOGY, SOME SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT THERE WAS AN ERROR IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA USAGE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I LIKE THAT. STRATEGIES FOR REBUILDING TRUST IS A VERY LARGE STATEMENT. I JUST DON'T SEE HOW A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY IS GOING TO DO THAT. AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS JUST CLARIFYING THAT AS WRITTEN THIS DOES NOT IMPACT ELECTED OFFICIALS? SO, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL HAVE NO RULES. SO, IS THAT THE INTENT? >> WELL -- >>COUN. GROUT: WE SHOULD HAVE RULES TOO. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT ANYTHING ON MY PAGE, YOU KNOW ON MY COUNCIL PAGE, I NEED TO BE RESPECTFUL AND KIND TO ANYBODY THAT REPLIES TO ME AS WELL. ANYTHING I WRITE ON MY PERSONAL PAGE IS UP TO ME. I STILL NEED TO BE CAREFUL, BUT I TOTALLY AGREE. I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. I'VE SEEN SOME POSTS BY SOME PEOPLE THAT -- WHILE I THINK THIS IS FOR SOCIAL MEDIA, ANY CITY SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR. I THINK THAT, AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE SHOULD ALL BE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. I AGREE. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT FOR THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE CREATING RULES FOR FOLKS THAT ARE NOT US. I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S CLEAR, THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM THAT 99% OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES HAVE CREATED. AND I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE'RE PASSING SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CITY EMPLOYEES. I JUST WANT IT TO BE CLEAR, I DON'T HAVE PROBLEM WITH CITY EMPLOYEES. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ONE CITY EMPLOYEE. IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE GOING TOO FAR AND YET FAR ENOUGH FOR THAT ONE PROBLEM. I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT ON THE RECORD. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, OTHER DISCUSSION? >> MR. PRESIDENT, IF I MAY? >>COUN. LEWIS: MS. SENGEL. >> THANK YOU, MEZ -- MS. SENGEL. I THINK IT'S CLEAR THE CITY ALREADY HAS A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY. AI1-19. IT'S PUBLICLY POSTED AND THE PUBLIC CAN VIEW THAT ANYWHERE BASED UPON A GOOGLE SEARCH OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY. I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING IS A RESPONSORY OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHEN WE PLACED POLICY AND DISCIPLINARY MATTERS WITHIN A POLICY WE HAVE EIGHT COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNITS THAT WE'LL BEGIN THAT DISCUSSION RELATED TO THAT POLICY. IT WAS MENTIONED, DISCIPLINE, AND I HAVE SAID THAT BEFORE AND HERE ON THIS MICROPHONE, THAT I WAS NOT THE DISCUSSING PERSONNEL AND DISCIPLINE MATTERS ON THE RECORD. THE FUNCTION BY THIS COUNCIL THAT THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING DONE RELATED TO THE MATTERS DISCUSSED IS -- IT'S NOT DISCUSSED WITH CITY COUNCIL BASED ON THE EMPLOYEE'S RIGHTS TO THAT PROCESS. I JUST AGREE THAT THE -- I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENT BEING EXPRESSED BY INDIVIDUAL COUNCILORS RELATED TO COMMENTS IN SOCIAL MEDIA POSTINGS. I ALSO THINK IT IS RELEVANT FOR US TO RECOGNIZE IN THE TIMES WE'RE IN THERE ARE LOT OF ANTAGONISTIC ACTIONS THAT OCCUR. THEY HAPPEN RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM. AND I BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE HAS THE INTENT TO BE PROFESSIONAL, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE INTENT IS FOR US AS THE ADMINISTRATION TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE SUPERVISING OUR EMPLOYEES. AND THAT IS THE COMMITMENT THAT WE'VE MADE. I KNOW IT WAS MADE BY A PREVIOUS INDIVIDUAL, LONG BEFORE I WAS HERE, AND THAT PROCESS, AGAIN, FALLS TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND TO SUPERVISORS TO HANDLE THOSE DISCIPLINARY PROCESSES AND/OR REDIRECTING AND COACHING AND ADVISING INDIVIDUALS. I FELT IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE CLEAR WE HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY THAT ADDRESSES PROFESSIONALISM. AND IT'S AN EXPECTATION THAT OUR CITY EMPLOYEES FOLLOW POLICY THAT IS ON THE RECORD. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. ONE, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SUBJECT HERE, ARE DIRECTORS PART OF A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT? ARE THEY HIRED AT WILL AND APPOINTED? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, DIRECTORS ARE AT WILL. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: A CIE DIRECTOR, WOULD NOT FALL UNDER THIS? >> THAT'S CORRECT. THE POLICY APPLIES TO ALL EMPLOYEES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: IT DOES, YOU'RE RIGHT. THE POLICY THAT STATES THE SOCIAL MEDIA IS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGING THE WAY IN WHICH RESIDENTS AND CITY OFFICIALS INTERACT. THAT POLICY? >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR EXACTLY WHAT YOU HEAD. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THE POLICY, 1-19 SPECIAL -- POLICY, IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE WAY IN WHICH CITY GOVERNMENT AND RESIDENTS INTERACT. IT HAS AN IMPACT. AND VIOLATIONS OF THIS POLICY MAY BE GROUNDS FOR DISCIPLINE AND UP TO TERMINATION, CORRECT? >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, IT DOES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: AGAIN. I GO INTO THIS BECAUSE IF THIS, THAT STAY STATED IN THE RESPONSE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY, WOULD BE ADHERED TO, AND FOLLOWED THEN THIS WOULDN'T BE NECESSARY. SECTION G, OF THE SAME POLICY QUOTED, THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE SOCIAL MEDIA SITE SHALL COMPLY WITH THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE'S CODE OF ETHICS. THE CITY EMPLOYEE'S CODE OF ETHICS, CODE AND ALL ADMINISTRATIVE RULES CREATED UNDER THOSE CODES. SECTION I, I CAN -- SECTION I, PRESS NEWS RELEASE, COPY VERSUS ORIGINAL -- IS THAT DONE. BEFORE THEY PUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT THERE'S A COUNTY AND THE ORIGINAL THAT HE WAS GOING TO AND THE PERSON PUTS ON THE SHARED DRIVE FOR RECORDING PURPOSES? >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I'M SORRY -- CAN YOU SAY WHICH ONE YOU'RE REFERRING TO? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: UNDER SECTION I, IT STATES THE PRESS AND NEWS RELESSES, COPY VERSUS ORIGINAL SHALL BE SHARED ON THE X-DRIVE WHERE THE ORIGINAL IS COMPARED AND THE COPY IS PUT IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA. IS THAT BEING EXERCISED AND DONE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I CANNOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION SPECIFICALLY JUST BECAUSE I DO NOT HAVE THE EXACT PROCESS IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW THAT THEY FOLLOW. I KNOW THEY FOLLOW A PROCESS THAT ABSOLUTELY ENSURES THAT THERE IS A QUALITY REVIEW OF PRESS RELEASE, NEWS RELEASES AND OTHER INFORMATION. I KNOW IT IS QUALITY CHECKED AND IT IS LOOKED AT BY MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASSUME YOU FOLLOW SECTION K-D, POSTER COMMENTS INTENDED TO SPREAD FALSE INFORMATION WHO THREATP, HARASS, OR DEFAME OTHERS WOULD BE FOLLOWED, CORRECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WE FOLLOW THIS PROCESS AS IT IS WRITTEN. AND IT IS REVIEWED WITH ALL OF OUR PIOs AND ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES RELATED MEDIA AND POSTS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MR. PRESIDENT, SECTION K-I, INFORMATION THAT IS INTENTIONALLY FACTUALLY INCORRECT AND MAY TEND TO COMPROMISE THE SAFETY OR SECURITY OF THE PUBLIC SYSTEM, I ASSUME THAT WOULD BE FOLLOWED AS WELL. MAYBE REMOVED WITHOUT NOTICE, OR AFTER POSTS ARE PUT UP THAT ARE INCORRECT OR COMPROMISE THE SAFETY OR, LIKE I STATED IN D, HARASS OR DEFAME OTHERS, WOULD BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY. CORRECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, SECTION K IS RELATED TO CONSTITUENTS AND COMMENTS MADE BY CONSTITUENT AND FOLLOWERS. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT IS A POLICY THAT WE HAVE RELATED TO THAT SECTION. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: SO K ISN'T WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION OR PIO ADHERES TO? IS THAT CORRECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, SECTION K IS SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING SOCIAL MEDIA SITE POSTS AND COMMENTS MADE BY CONSTITUENTS OR FOLLOWERS CONTAINING ANY OF THE FOLLOWING CONTENT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WAS THE EXCHANGE EVER REMOVED? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I WOULD NEED TO CHECK THAT. TO MAKE SURE I'M GIVING ACCURATE -- I BELIEVE IT WAS. IF POSSIBLE, BY THE WAY, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THERE ARE SOME PLACES WHERE WE CANNOT REMOVE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: LAST QUESTION. SECTION M, DID THE DIRECTOR FOLLOW SECTION M, SPECIFICALLY SUBSECTION A TO KEEP IT PROFESSIONAL AND AVOID CONFRONTATION? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THIS IS THE POLICY WE EXPECT EMPLOYEES TO FOLLOW. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I GUESS I'M JUST WONDERING TWO QUESTIONS. ONE, I'M SEEING MS. KEEFE, IS THERE A CONCERN WITH THIS BILL AND THE LEGALITY OF HOW IT WILL IMPACT THE DIFFERENT COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNITS? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I THINK THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED. I THINK ONE WAY TO ADDRESS THAT IS TO SPECIFY THAT DISCIPLINE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE TERMS OF THOSE BARGAINING UNITS -- BARGAINING AGREEMENTS. TO THE EXTENT THAT THE POLICY IS CREATING ANY DISCIPLINARY STRUCTURE WOULD BE SUPERSEDED OR CONTROLLED BY THE BARGAINING AGREEMENT THEMSELVES. THE OTHER CONCERN THAT I HAD GENERALLY BECAUSE I PRACTICE EMPLOYMENT LAW FOR A LONG TIME IS THAT POLICIES LIKE THIS CAN CREATE IMPLIED CONTRACTS, BUT THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU SEE IN THE EXISTING POLICY THAT SAYS THERE CAN BE DISCIPLINE IS THE KIND OF LANGUAGE THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND SO TO NOT BE TOO SPECIFIC AND NOT BIND THE CITY. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, IS IF YOU SPECIFY IF YOU CREATE A PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINE WITHIN A POLICY, YOU'RE BOUND BY IT AND YOU CAN'T DECIDE THAT CONDUCT IS SO EGREJS, YOU WANT TO LEAVE FLEXIBILITY. THE LANGUAGE RIGHT NOW IS A GOOD STARTING POINT. THE ADMINISTRATION MAY WANT TO WORK ON IT MORE IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS RESOLUTION. I THINK THOSE ISSUES CAN BE ADDRESSED. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, WITH THAT, ARE YOU SAYING THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO SAY THAT THIS IS ANY KIND OF CHANGES ARE SUBJECT TO THE NEXT COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, OR ARE YOU SAYING THAT AS IS THIS IS, THIS BILL AS PROPOSED, IS NOT A CONCERN? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I'M SAYING AS IS THIS BILL IS NOT A CONCERN BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION CAN HAVE LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ADDRESS THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: PERFECT. MY NEXT QUESTION, MR. PRESIDENT, COMPARED TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE INSTRUCTION, MS. RONQUILLO WHAT ARE THE KEY POINTS THAT DIFFERENTS IN THIS BILL? >> I THINK THE ADMINISTRATIVE INSTRUCTION TOUCHES ON SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE RAISED IN THE RESOLUTION, HOWEVER NOT WITH THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT THE RESOLUTION IS REQUESTING. THE RESOLUTION ASKS THAT THESE CONCERNS AND PROBLEM AREAS BE DIRECTLY ADDRESSED MORE HEAD-ON AND WITH SOME MORE THOUGHTFULNESS AND GUIDANCE PROVIDED TO EMPLOYEES THAT ARE USING THE ACCOUNTS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, CAN YOU GIVE US A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERING OR MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE GENERALIZED IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE INSTRUCTION VERSUS WHAT IS IN THE BILL? >> SURE. THE AI TOUCHES ON JUST SOME GENERAL SOCIAL MEDIA TERMINOLOGY. IT DEFINES WHAT A BLOG IS AND POST IS, AND HAS PROVISION FOR CREDENTIALS AND UPDATING PASSWORDS AND CREATING NEW ACCOUNTS AND RECORDS RETENTION. IT DOES COVER PROHIBITED CONTENT, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT, AS WELL AS HOW TO RESPOND TO MESSAGES FROM THE PUBLIC, BUT IT'S ALSO SPELLED OUT RESPONSIBILITIES OF DTI, GUIDELINES FOR EMPLOYEES USING PERSONAL SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS. SIMILARITIES, BUT ALSO VERY DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, DO YOU THINK THERE'S ANY KIND OF OVERREACH OF THE SEPARATION OF POWERS BY US PASSING THIS BILL? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I THINK THIS RESOLUTION DIRECTS THE ADMINISTRATION TO CREATE THE POLICY. IT LEAVES IT IN THE HANDS OF THE ADMIN TO DEFINE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, IT JUST ASKS FOR IT TO BE CREATED. >>COUN. BASSAN: WITH THE SPECIFIC ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE AND THOUGHTS TO CATEGORIES? >> CORRECT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE LEGALLY? >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, NO. IT LEAVES ENOUGH OF THE RESPONSIBILITY TO FILL OUT WHAT THE POLICY LOOKS LIKE THAT IS WITHIN THE COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR ROGERS. YOU'RE GOOD? OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? ANY DISCUSSION ON THE BILL? WE'LL GO BACK TO COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE. THIS IS R-89. MOVED AND SECONDED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE WERE NO OTHER SPEAKERS. I KNOW WE DID THAT. JUST MAKING SURE. R-89. DISCUSSION CLOSED. MOVED AND SECONDED. THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED NO. MOTION PASSES 8-1. ALL RIGHT. ITEM H IS R-90. COUNCILOR GROUT OR COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. R-90 IS ASSESSING THE DISTRICT BENEFIT FOR THE ALBUQUERQUE TOURISM MARKETING DISTRICT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPROVED BUDGET. I MOVE DO PASS. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. BACK IN 2022, COUNCIL CREATED A BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR HOTELS AND MOTELS, THIS RESOLUTION WILL APPROVE THE ALBUQUERQUE TOURISM MARKING DISTRICT FISCAL YEAR 2024 PROGRESS REPORT AND ITS FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET. MS. MARMENTA IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. VISIT ALBUQUERQUE DOES A WONDERFUL JOB OF COMMUNICATING AND SHOWING AND ALL THE DATA AND EVERYTHING THAT'S INVOLVED. I KNOW THEY'VE GIVEN A REPORT. EVERYBODY HAS ONE ON THEIR DESKS. I'M JUST VERY PROUD OF WHAT THEY DO FOR OUR CITY, HOW THEY MARKET OUR CITY. THEY'RE 150%. I LOVE EVERYTHING THEY DO. I THINK THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB OF BRINGING CONVENTIONS AND SPORTS TOURISM AND THEY'RE JUST DOING A GREAT JOB. MS. ARMENTA IS HERE IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS. SDMRL COUNCILOR . >>COUN. LEWIS: DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? THIS IS R-90. MS. ARMENTA, WOULD YOU LIKE SAY A FEW WORDS? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE ALBUQUERQUE TOURISM MARKETING DISTRICT. THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS. AS COUNCILOR GROUT REMINDED YOU, YOU ALL DID APPROVE THIS. THIS BODY APPROVED THIS IN 2022. IT HAS BEEN CHAMPIONED BY THE HOTEL INDUSTRY. IT'S TRANSFORMATIVE. WE'RE TAKING THE FUNDING THAT COMES FROM LODGERS TAX AND SUPPLEMENTING IT WITH THE ALBUQUERQUE TOURISM MARKETING DISTRICT. IF YOU HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE AIRPORT OF INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT THROUGH PHOENIX, RECENTLY THROUGH DALLAS, IF YOU'VE BEEN DRIVING ON THE FREEWAY, THOSE ARE EXAMPLES TO INCREASE THE AWARENESS AND APPEAL FOR ALBUQUERQUE. SUBSEQUENTLY, THAT NOT ONLY BENEFITS TOURISM BUT IT BENEFITS OUR OVERALL COMMUNITY FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND BUSINESS STANDPOINT. APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT THAT HAS BEEN RECEIVED FROM THIS COUNSEL SKWL -- AND THE PARTNERSHIP. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. HOW DO FOLKS ACCESS THE FUNDS THROUGH VISIT ALBUQUERQUE IF THEY'RE NOT TIED TO A CHAMBER? HOW DO PEOPLE ACCESS THESE FUNDS? >> THERE ARE TWO BUSINESSES. THERE'S THE FUNDING THAT WE DO, THE CONTRACT WE HAVE FROM THE CITY IN REGARD TO LODGER'S TAX AND HOSPITALITY FEE. THAT IS LOOKING TO BRING LEISURE TRAVELLER, CONVENTIONS AND SPORTS TOURISM. THAT'S OUR BASE BUSINESS. WE'VE SUPPLEMENTED, THANKS TO THE ASSESSMENT, WITH THE TOURISM MARKETING SOME ADDITIONAL SALES AND MARKETING OPPORTUNITIES. OUR BASE BUSINESS, THE CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY IS TO BRING MEETINGS AND CONVENTIONS AND SPORTS TOURISM. ALL OF OUR SERVICES ARE FREE. YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE CONTACT WITH US TO LET US KNOW WHAT GROUPS ARE INTERESTED IN BRINGING. WE'LL ASSESS THE GROUPS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY NEED IN TERMS OF FACILITIES AND ALL OF THE MAKING OF THE SPECIFIC AND LOOK TO MAKE AN ASSESSMENT. THERE ARE, AT TIMES AS YOU INDICATED, THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE NECESSARY TO OVERCOME OBSTACLES. >>COUN. ROGERS: ALSOM. WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE BUFFLY SOLDIER CONFERENCE HERE. I'LL SEND THEM YOUR WAY FOR HELP. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THIS IS R-90. MOVED AND SECONDED. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED NO. MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS COUNCIL MEETING IS ADJOURNED.