CITY OF TAMPA >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME TO THE SEASON FINALE OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL! MERRY CHRISTMAS. HAPPY HOLIDAYS. HAPPY HANUKKAH, EVERYBODY. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. LET'S DO AN INVOCATION FIRST. CHARLIE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. IT IS MY HONOR THIS MORNING TO PRESENT AN INDIVIDUAL THAT REALLY EVERYONE KNOWS. HE IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS REALLY DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO PUBLIC SERVICE. HARRY COHEN IS A MEMBER OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS REPRESENTING DISTRICT ONE, A POSITION ELECTED TO IN NOVEMBER OF 2020 AND REELECTED IN 2022. HARRY COHEN DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO A CAREER IN PUBLIC SERVICE. LAWYER BY PROFESSION. SERVED CHIEF DEPUTY CLERK FROM 2005 TO 2011 AND ELECTED MEMBER OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL 2011 TO 2019 AND CLERK'S OFFICE 2019, 2020. ELECTED PRESENTLY WITH THE DIFFERENT AREAS. CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD TAMPA BAY WATER. VERY IMPORTANT POSITION. HE'S ALSO A MEMBER OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AVIATION AUTHORITY AT THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. HE IS VICE-CHAIR AND ALSO SERVES PERFORMING ARTS DAVID STRAZ CENTER. PAST IMMEDIATE CHAIR OF TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION. MEMBER OF THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL AND FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES. BESIDES THAT, HE SERVED BOARD MEMBER PORT OF TAMPA BAY AND FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, FLORIDA AQUARIUM, THE COMMUNITY OF TAMPA BAY, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TELL YOU, BUT HE SERVED MORE THAN I HAVE AND MAYBE THE TOTAL CITY COUNCIL TOGETHER. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS MORNING, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT MR. HARRY COHEN, DISTINGUISHED INDIVIDUAL WHO SERVES VERY HIGHLY ON THE COUNTY COMMISSION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING. >> THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA. YOU MAKE ME SOUND VERY, VERY BUSY. I DID WANT TO START OFF THIS MORNING BY MENTIONING THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS LOVES THE CITY OF TAMPA. WE HOLD THE CITY IN THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE ESTEEM. I'M REALLY GLAD TO BE ABLE TO COME HERE AND TELL YOU ALL THAT AS WE SAY THIS PRAYER ON THE EVE OF A NEW YEAR. HEAVENLY FATHER, AS WE STEP INTO 2026, THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT OF A NEW YEAR. WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM TO GUIDE OUR DECISIONS, YOUR STRENGTH, TO FACE CHALLENGES WITH FAITH AND YOUR GRACE TO OVERCOME OBSTACLES. GOD BLESS OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND ALL WHO ENDEAVOR TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER. HELP US TRUST YOUR PLAN AND WALK IN YOUR LIGHT. AMEN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, COMMISSIONER COHEN. IT IS A PLEASURE SEEING YOU HERE. I SEE SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE. WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF NAACP YVETTE LEWIS IN THE AUDIENCE. WELCOME YVETTE. LET'S DO A ROLL CALL. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE. >>NAYA YOUNG: HERE. >>LUIS VIERA: HERE. >>BILL CARLSON: HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE. >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM THE DECEMBER 4, 2025 DAY SESSION AND EVENING SESSION HELD ON DECEMBER 11, 2025. MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE ITEMS 2 AND 3 FROM THE AGENDA BECAUSE THAT WILL BE -- I'M SORRY. ITEM 2 WE'RE TAKING OFF FOR THIS QUARTER. MAKE MOTION TO TAKE OFF ITEM 2. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECOND FROM MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO MOVE ITEM 3 TO FEBRUARY 19, 2026. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 3 TO FEBRUARY 19, 2026 FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION. WE HAVE TO DO THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE -- I WOULD LIKE TO DEAL WITH TWO ISSUES IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING PUBLIC COMMENT. ONE IS TO ADD AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT THE DISCUSSION AND SELECTION OF CITY COUNCIL ALTERNATIVE FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE. THE SECOND ITEM WOULD BE FOR THE CHAIR TO WALK ON THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE CRC AND HIRING THE FACILITATOR AND ATTORNEY. MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'VE JUST BEEN HANDED A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT FOR THE SERVICE OF MR. KENNETH TINKLER AS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE CRC AND THE AGREEMENT TO NEXT WITH IT. I WOULD LIKE THAT IF COUNCIL WISHES TO TAKE IT UP TODAY, IT WOULD BE TIMELY TO GET THAT PASSED. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT WE JUST DID. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT YOU DID IS YOU APPOINTED THEM. THIS IS THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO. AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: TAKE THE WHOLE KIT AND CABOODLE. UNDERSTOOD. I'LL HAND THIS TO THE CLERK, PLEASE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S GO THROUGH THE AGENDA. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE ITEM 52. IT IS THE TREE CONVERSATION AROUND REFUNDING THE $334,000 FROM THE TREE TRUST FUND. THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS WAS TO RIDE WITH WHAT WE'RE GETTING BACK FROM FY '25 TO SEE IF WE COULD FUND IT THROUGH THAT INSTEAD OF THE TREE TRUST FUND. I HAVE TALKED TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT. THEY UNDERSTAND. AND WE'VE GOTTEN QUITE A BIT OF COMMENT ASKING US TO MOVE THIS. >>BILL CARLSON: I CAN SECOND THAT. NUMBER 65 IS ABOUT INTERDEPARTMENTAL AGREEMENTS. I TALKED TO CHIEF OF STAFF. I DON'T THINK IT IS ENOUGH TO JUST HAVE THE GENERAL FUND MOVE MONEY OVER TO REPLACE. I THINK THERE HAS TO BE AN AGREEMENT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN 65. BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN AGREEMENT IN ADVANCE TO SET EXPECTATIONS, NOT JUST AN OPEN WALLET TO PAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DEAL WITH THE ISSUE ON THE TABLE FIRST. MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 52 TO -- >>LYNN HURTAK: JANUARY 8, 2026. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS WATER DEPARTMENT IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND. SOMEHOW THEY WORKED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO FUND THE PROJECT BECAUSE I GUESS THEY WERE SHORT OF CASH SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND NOW WE'RE HOLDING BACK THE MONEY THAT THEY NEED. I'M GOING TO CAUTION MYSELF BY SAYING WHEN YOU START DEALING WITH MONIES THAT ARE IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS ONLY ONE OF FIVE WATER DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNTRY, GOT A AAA BOND RATING, YOU'RE FACING A PROBLEM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WATER DEPARTMENT AGREED TO. I WASN'T PRIVY TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO EMBARRASS ANYBODY. THEY ARE HERE NOW. IF THEY WANT TO TALK ON THEIR BEHALF, THEY ARE WELCOME TO COME UP BUT I'M NOT GOING TO ASK THEM TO COME UP. THE TREE FUND, WHATEVER THEY PLANTED, RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY, WAS PLANTED. I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS PLANTED. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE TREES THAT LIVED ON. I HAVE NO INFORMATION TO GO ON ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW IT WAS DONE OR WHAT WAS DONE AND HOW MANY TREES WERE PLANTED AND HOW MANY ARE STILL LIVING, BUT I NEED SOME INFORMATION BEFORE I SAY YEA OR NAY. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S KIND OF THE POINT. I HAD SET THIS TO RIDE WITH KNOWING HOW MUCH WE HAVE LEFT IN FY '25 SO WE CAN FUND IT THROUGH THAT IF POSSIBLE. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WE'RE CONTINUING IT SO WE CAN HAVE THE DISCUSSION AT THE SAME TIME. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LATER ON, MAKE A MOTION THAT NO ENTERPRISE FUND CAN LOAN MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE. THAT WILL SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. WE HAVE A SECOND TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT 41, THE COMMUNITY HAS ASKED US TO PUT IT IN A WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING. DO WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THIS COMES UP? >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. WE NEED TO WAIT FOR THE ORDINANCE TO BE OPEN. SORRY. YOU LET ME BE CHAIR LAST TIME AND NOW I'M JUST LIKE -- SORRY. >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 10 TO TALK ABOUT THAT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: OR WHEN THE CHAIR CALLS UP THE ITEM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S CONTINUE THROUGH THE AGENDA REVIEW. >>BILL CARLSON: FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PEOPLE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, SHOULD WE INDICATE WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS TO A WORKSHOP AT 10 SO THEY KNOW? >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY RECOMMENDATION IS IF THEY WANT TO -- IF COUNCIL IS WILLING TO TAKE IT UP TODAY, MY CONCERN IS IF YOU GET INTO A POLICY DISCUSSION DURING WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE IT OR NOT, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME. MY SUGGESTION IS TO WORK THROUGH THE AGENDA AND CONTINUE IT WHEN THE PUBLIC HEARING COMES UP. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. I CONCUR. LET'S WORK THROUGH THE AGENDA REVIEW NOW AND WE'LL GET TO THAT ITEM WHEN WE GET TO THAT ITEM. COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, YOU HAD A REQUEST TO PULL ITEM 18 FOR DISCUSSION. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG TO PULL ITEM 18 AND THERE WAS A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. YOU ALSO HAD A REQUEST, COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, TO CONTINUE ITEM 35 TO JANUARY 8. SHE WANTS TO CONTINUE IT TO JANUARY 8. >>NAYA YOUNG: I THOUGHT IT WAS CONTINUED TO JANUARY 8. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. REQUESTS FOR CHANGES TO THE AGENDA CAN BE MADE BY MEMO, EITHER BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER OR THE STAFF, BUT THE ACTUAL CHANGES ONLY TAKE EFFECT AT THE MEETING AT THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL. IT'S COUNCIL'S AGENDA. COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE WITH REGARD TO ITEM 38? 35. WHAT IS YOUR INTENTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO CONTINUE IT TO JANUARY 8. >>NAYA YOUNG: TO CONTINUE IT TO JANUARY 8. >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO NOT TAKE IT TODAY AND CONTINUE TO JANUARY 8. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG TO CONTINUE ITEM 35 TO JANUARY 8. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. I ACTUALLY WENT AHEAD AND TALKED TO REAL ESTATE ABOUT THIS ALREADY. I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY COULD COME AND TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON. HONESTLY, HER REAL ESTATE EXPLANATION MADE A LOT OF SENSE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THE ISSUE IS ALSO THE COUNTY WANTS TO BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT. SO THE COUNTY WANTED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WAS GOING TO ASK WHETHER THAT WAS A MOTION TO RECONSIDER AND THEN HAVE IT PULLED FOR DISCUSSION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, IT WASN'T. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO CONTINUE ITEM 35 TO JANUARY 8. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. >>BILL CARLSON: TURNS OUT 65 CHIEF OF STAFF REQUESTED TO MOVE IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE] >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU WORKING THROUGH THE STAFF REPORTS NOW OR NO? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO. WE'RE STILL DOING AGENDA REVIEW. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. ARE YOU WORKING THROUGH THE STAFF REPORTS ON AGENDA REVIEW? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE MAY BE THERE BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT YET. YOU SAW THE MEMO THAT I HAD PLACED ABOUT ITEMS 50 AND 51. IF WE CAN MOVE ITEMS 53 -- SORRY, 55 AND 56 TO THE FIRST STAFF REPORT, AND THEN WE WILL ENTERTAIN AFTER THAT A MOTION TO REMOVE THE OTHER TWO ITEMS. MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. 61. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK -- COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG TO CONTINUE TO FEBRUARY 19, 2026. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG. A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. >>NAYA YOUNG: JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, THE REASON FOR DOING THAT IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE SURE -- THAT WE HAVE THE MEETING, THE LISTENING SESSION FIRST SO EVERYBODY CAN ATTEND. IT'S IN THE MEMO, BUT THERE WERE SOME CONFLICTS WITH THE DATE, SO WE WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER DATE WHERE EVERYBODY CAN ATTEND AND THEN HAVE TIME FOR TPD AND MOBILITY TO TAKE THE INFORMATION FROM THAT AND HAVE IN A PRESENTATION BACK IN FEBRUARY SO WE HAVE A FULL PRESENTATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THERE A DATE SET FOR THE PUBLIC MEETING? >>NAYA YOUNG: I DON'T THINK SO. NOT YET. NOT YET. BUT I AM WORKING WITH THEM. WE ARE WORKING THROUGH A DATE SO WE'LL HAVE IT. >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO THANK YOU AND STAFF FOR MOVING THAT YBOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE ONE YBOR HAD A HOLIDAY PARTY THAT NIGHT WHICH MANY OF US ATTENDED. IT WAS UNFAIR TO THEM. SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS PUT IN A LOT OF WORK TO PUT THAT TOGETHER. IT'S GOOD THIS WILL BE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON A SEPARATE DAY. THANK YOU. >>NAYA YOUNG: WE WANT TO BE SURE EVERYBODY CAN ATTEND. THAT'S WHY WE CHANGED IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM STAFF TO CONTINUE ITEM 63 TO JANUARY 8. MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. 64, STAFF WILL BE PRESENT. COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAVE THE TWO THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE UP. >>LUIS VIERA: FOR ITEM 62, I HAVE UNFORTUNATELY SOMETHING THAT IS TOTALLY OUT OF MY HANDS AT 12:00 IN MY PRIVATE SECTOR OBLIGATIONS WHICH CAME SORT OF LAST MINUTE. SO THAT MAY PRECLUDE ME FROM BEING HERE POTENTIALLY FOR 62. THEREFORE, I WOULD REQUEST, PLEASE, THAT AFTER THE TWO ITEMS ON THE APPOINTMENTS THAT WE HEAR 62 -- SORRY, STRIKE THAT. 66. IT SHOULDN'T TAKE MORE THAN 45 SECONDS FRANKLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DID HAVE A STAFF REPORT FOR 62. >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY. 66. I MISSPOKE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO WE NEED STAFF FOR 62? >>LUIS VIERA: YES. MY REQUEST IS, IF I'M NOT HERE FOR 62 62 WHEN IT COMES UP NATURALLY IN THE COURSE OF EVENTS THAT IT BE CONTINUED TO THE N NEXT MEETING AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. 66, TRYING TO GET -- THIRD AFTER -- >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WOULD BE THE THIRD STAFF REPORT. 66 WILL COME TODAY -- >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT DATE DID YOU WANT 62? >>LUIS VIERA: IF I'M NOT HERE. NEXT MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE JANUARY 8. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'RE COMPLETELY FULL. >>LUIS VIERA: IT WILL TAKE TEN MINUTES. IT WILL BE A WAIVER OF THE RULES JUST BECAUSE WE HAD IT CONTINUED TWICE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 66 TO THE THIRD STAFF REPORT. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M CONFUSED. YOU SAID THIRD STAFF REPORT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS ONE I WAS GOING TO DO AFTER THE THIRD STAFF REPORT. MOVE IT ALL THE WAY UP? >>LUIS VIERA: AS THIRD, IN OTHER WORDS -- YES, SIR, AGAIN, 45 SECONDS. I DON'T THINK WE NEED A STAFF REPORT FOR THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 66 AFTER THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION DISCUSSIONS. MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. THIS IS THE SECOND WEEK IN A ROW THAT WE'VE HAD CRAZY AGENDA REVIEWS. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST THINK IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE A VERY INVOLVED COUNCIL AND VERY INVOLVED PUBLIC. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE NEED A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 65 TO JANUARY 22, 2026 PER STAFF REQUEST. CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. LET'S GO THROUGH STAFF REPORTS AND SEE WHAT WE NEED. >>LYNN HURTAK: STILL HAVE 67 AND 68 ALSO ASKING TO BE -- THAT'S VIERA'S MOTION. 67. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA. 67 AND 68, WE HAVE A REQUEST TO CONTINUE -- REQUEST TO CONTINUE 67 TO JANUARY 8, 2026. >>LUIS VIERA: NO OBJECTION TO THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REQUEST TO CONTINUE ITEM 68 TO MARCH 5, 2026. >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVE 67. >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE] >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO REMOVE IN FAVOR OF THE -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO REMOVE 67 FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. 68, REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO MARCH 5 2026. MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYE HAVE IT. THANK YOU. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE NEED STAFF FOR. THERE IS NO ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE. JOHN BENNETT IS NOT HERE TODAY. HE HAS A CONFLICT. 49 YES. WE'RE GOING TO END UP HOPEFULLY REMOVING 50 AND 51. CONTINUE 52. 53 AND 54, YES. >>LYNN HURTAK5 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES ON 53. NO STAFF ON 54. 55 AND 56 STAFF WILL BE HERE FOR THOSE. 57 NO. 58 NO. 59? 60? YES ON 62. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DID, YES. 64. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH. >>MARTIN SHELBY: DRAFT ORDINANCE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS A DRAFT ORDINANCE. EVERYBODY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE DRAFT ORDINANCE? SO NO STAFF ON THAT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF IT'S NO STAFF, THEN WHAT IS YOUR DIRECTION. >>LYNN HURTAK: ACTUALLY, WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO, YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO STAFF. OKAY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, A REMINDER, PLEASE, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO ASSIST, IF WE CAN. GETTING INTO THE HABIT OF WHEN WE HAVE THESE VERY BIG TICKET ITEMS PLACED UNDER STAFF REPORTS -- SHE'S WONDERFUL -- NUMBERS 54, 57, 58, 59, 60 TO MOVE THEM AFTER THE CONSENT DOCKET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO APPROVE THE VERY ALTERED AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. >>BILL CARLSON: DID WE MOVE 65? I WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK. WE DID. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THE MOTION -- WE ARE NOW MOVING TO COMMENDATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE TAMPA BAY WATER HERE. GOOD MORNING, SIR. SORRY YOU HAVE TO ENDURE ALL THAT. >> I WAS TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEITHER DID I. >> I'M WAITING HERE FOR THE PowerPoint TO COME UP. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S THERE. >> OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF. I'M CHUCK CARDEN, GENERAL MANAGER AT TAMPA BAY WATER. I HAVE BEEN WITH THE AGENCY SINCE 1993, AND I HAVE BEEN THE GENERAL MANAGER GOING ON FIVE YEARS. SO THE LAST FIVE YEARS. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE ON TAMPA BAY WATER, THANKING COUNCIL MEMBER CHARLIE MIRANDA. HE SERVES ON OUR BOARD ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. AND ALSO IT WAS A NICE SURPRISE TO SEE COMMISSIONER COHEN TODAY. HE IS ACTUALLY OUR CHAIR OF TAMPA BAY WATER. I'M ASSUMING HE'S HERE FOR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT MAYBE HE'S CHECKING ON ME TO MAKE SURE I GET IT RIGHT. TAMPA BAY WATER WAS FORMED IN 1998 BY THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS THAT WE SERVE. SO IT IS THE THREE COUNTIES AND THREE CITIES IN THE REGION, HILLSBOROUGH PASCO AND PINELLAS COUNTIES AND THE CITY OF ST. PETE, CITY OF TAMPA AND CITY OF NEWPORT RICHIE. OUR MISSION IS VERY SIMPLE. WE ARE GOING TO RELIABLY PROVIDE CLEAN, SAFE WATER TO THE TAMPA BAY REGION NOW AND ALSO FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. THE YEAR THAT BEER CURRENTLY IN, THE WATER YEAR, WE ARE SUPPLYING OUR MEMBERS, SIX MEMBERS AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 209 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. THE CITY OF TAMPA PURCHASES WATER FROM TAMPA BAY WATER ON AN AS-NEEDED BASIS. SO IT VARIES YEAR TO YEAR, BUT WE USUALLY BUDGET AROUND 4 MILLION GALLONS A DAY FOR THE CITY. OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM IS SHOWN IN THIS GRAPHIC, AND IT INCLUDES 13 WELL FIELDS. WE HAVE A RESERVOIR, 15.5 BILLION. VERY LARGE RESERVOIR. WE ALSO HAVE A DESALINATION PLANT AND TWO SURFACE WATER INTAKES AS WELL AS A SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. VERY SIMILAR TO YOUR PLANT, TIPPIN PLANT. WE MAINTAIN THE NETWORK AND SUPPLY WATER TO THE SIX MEMBER GOVERNMENTS AT A COST OF $2.64 PER THOUSAND GALLONS, WHICH JUST A LITTLE MORE THAN A QUARTER OF A PENNY PER GALLON. OUR SYSTEM IS VERY COMPLEX. EVERY DAY WE DELIVER A BLEND OF TREATED WATER. WE ARE THE ONLY WATER SUPPLY SYSTEM IN THE COUNTRY THAT BLENDS SEAWATER, RIVER WATER, AND GROUNDWATER. THESE SOURCES ALL VARY IN COST SO THE BLENDING KEEPS THAT WHOLESALE RATE VERY AFFORDABLE AT THE 2.64 PER THOUSAND. THE PIE CHART THAT YOU SEE HERE IS WHAT WE EXPECT TO AVERAGE BY EACH OF THE SOURCES. PRIOR TO 1998 WHEN WE WERE WEST COAST REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY AUTHORITY, WE WERE HUNDRED PERCENT GROUNDWATER AND IT IS ABOUT 60% GROUNDWATER NOW AND 40% ALTERNATIVE SPLICE. -- SUPPLIES. OVER THE YEARS AT TAMPA BAY WATER, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH CYCLES OF GROWTH AND CYCLES OF MAINTENANCE. AS YOU CAN GUESS, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN A GROWTH CYCLE. AND THE CHART REALLY TELLS THE STORY, IF YOU ARE COMPARING THE YEAR 2025, ACTUAL DEMANDS THAT WE DELIVERED TO THE PROJECTIONS THAT GO OUT 20 YEARS, YOU CAN SEE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND PASCO, YOU CAN SEE THE COMPARISONS. A LOT OF GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPECTING AS WELL AS THE CITY OF TAMPA THERE ON THE VERY END. WE DO HAVE ENOUGH WATER TO MEET THE REGION'S NEEDS OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, BUT WE'RE WORKING HARD AT EXPANDING OUR SYSTEM TO MEET THE DEMANDS IN THE YEAR 2028, THE YEARS 2033 AND BEYOND IS WHEN WE THINK WE'LL BE NEEDING NEW SUPPLIES. RIGHT NOW, MAJORITY OF OUR ACTIVE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET WILL BE SPENT ON EXPANDING OUR SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, AND WE'RE ALSO STARTING A NEW WELL FIELD CALLED THE SOUTH HILLSBOROUGH WELL FIELD AND ALSO WE'RE GOING TO BE EXPANDING OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM WITH THE SOUTH HILLSBOROUGH PIPELINE. THE SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT DESIGN CAPACITY IS GOING TO BE EXPANDED TO 145 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. ONCE THE EXPANSION IS COMPLETE, WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO YIELD ANOTHER 10 TO 12 MILLION GALLONS A DAY FROM THE PLANT. THE PLANT IS THE WORKHORSE OF OUR SYSTEM. IT'S LOCATED NOT FAR FROM THE TIPPIN PLANT BUT RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM THE FAIRGROUNDS. WE HAVE FINISHED ALL THE DESIGN WORK AND THE PERMITTING, AND THEY ARE JUST STARTING THE CONSTRUCTION. PROJECTS TO BE COMPLETED BY THE YEAR 2028. JUST RECENTLY, ACTUALLY, AT THE NOVEMBER BOARD, THE BOARD APPROVED A NEW PROJECT CALLED THE SOUTH HILLSBOROUGH WELL FIELD. THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE BALM AREA. USING CREDITS FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM AS THEY ARE TREATING AND PUTTING HIGHLY TREATED RECLAIMED WATER INTO WELLS ON THE COAST, IT IS PROVIDING A CREDIT FOR US TO TAKE FRESH GROUNDWATER INLAND. SO THE DEAL WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM NOW IS IF THEY PUT THE 10 MGD OF RECLAIMED WATER DOWN, WE CAN PULL 6 MILLION GALLONS OF FRESHWATER. WE ALSO ACQUIRED PERMITS FROM OTHER PERMIT HOLDERS IN THE AREA, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET ANOTHER SIX, MAKING THAT PLAN TO BE A 12 MILLION GALLON TODAY WELL FIELD WHEN ALL SAID AND DONE. THE WELL FIELD WILL BE IN PHASES. WE ARE SCHEDULING THE DESIGN TO START IN EARLY NEXT SPRING OF NEXT YEAR. WE'RE ALSO JUST STARTED CONSTRUCTION OF NEW SOUTH HILLSBOROUGH PIPELINE. YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD IT. WE'RE TAKING 26 MILES OF 60-INCH PIPE FROM OUR SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT IN BRANDON AND GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SOUTH OF THE RESERVOIR. IT WILL ALSO CONNECT THE TWO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WATER TREATMENT PLANTS TOGETHER AND THE PIPELINE IS BEING FUNDED BY NOT ONLY TAMPA BAY WATER, BUT THE DISTRICT S.W.F.W.M.D. AND ALSO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. THE PIPELINE IS SCHEDULED TO BE IN SERVICE BY THE YEAR 2028. WE ALSO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT PROJECTS FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION IN THE YEARS 2033 AND BEYOND. WE ARE CONDUCTING FEASIBILITY STUDIES FOR THE PROJECT SHOWN ON THE MAP. THE PLAN IS TO FINISH THE STUDIES AND THEN HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO OUR BOARD IN THE YEAR 2027. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE EXPLORING BOTH SURFACE AND GROUNDWATER SUPPLIES ALL ACROSS THE REGION. REGARDLESS OF THE SOURCE OF YOUR DRINKING WATER, ALL THE WATER PROVIDED BY TAMPA BAY WATER MEETS OR SURPASSES ALL THE LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL STANDARDS. AS THOSE STANDARDS CHANGE, WE HAVE TO TAKE PROACTIVE STEPS TO ENSURE WE ALWAYS MEET THOSE REGULATIONS. THE LAST TIME, LAST YEAR I PRESENTED TO YOU, WE WERE STUDYING THE PFOS CHEMICALS, ALSO KNOWN AS THE FOREVER CHEMICALS. THEY MAKE THEIR WAY INTO OUR RAW WATER SUPPLIES. THE EPA ISSUE'D NEW PFOS REGULATIONS TO TAKE EFFECT BY THE YEAR 2031. THE NEW LIMITS HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED IN COURT BY OTHERS. SO WE ARE WATCHING VERY CLOSELY, BUT WE'RE PROCEEDING AS THOUGH THE NEW REGULATIONS WILL NOT CHANGE. WE CONTINUE TO SAMPLE THE SYSTEM ALONG WITH THE MEMBERS. WE DO MEET THE STANDARDS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THREE CONNECTION POINTS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THAT ARE SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE NEW REGULATIONS. YOU CAN SEE THEM IN THE ORANGE STARS ON THE MAP. WE DO HAVE A PLAN TO ADDRESS THESE LOCATIONS. BASED ON OUR WATER QUALITY STUDY THAT WE STARTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THAT STUDY WAS STARTED LOOKING AT REMOVAL OF TOTAL ORGANIC CARBON. NOW WE MARRIED THE PFOS RECOMMENDATIONS INTO THAT STUDY AND THAT WILL BE GOING IN FRONT OF OUR BOARD NEXT YEAR, EARLY IN THE YEAR NEXT YEAR. WE ARE LOOKING AT -- SURFACE WATER IS THE BIG STAR THERE. SIMILAR TO YOUR PLANT HERE IN TAMPA. THE CITY IS WORKING ON A SOLUTION CALLED, SUSPENDED IONIC EXCHANGE AS YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD AT THE CHAMBERS. WE'RE LOOKING AT PILOTING THAT AT THE PLANT AS WELL. THAT IS THE END OF MY SLIDES. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. OUR WATER DEPARTMENT, WE ARE INCREDIBLY PROUD OF WHAT THEY DO, BUT IT'S NICE THAT WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNER WHO CAN HELP OUT WHEN NECESSARY. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THIS UPDATE. >> THANK YOU. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR THE WORK YOU DO. THIS IS NOT EASY. IT LOOKS EASY ON PAPER. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE PIPELINES THROUGH PEOPLE'S PROPERTY AND BUY THE PROPERTY AND DO NEGOTIATED DEAL AND LOOKING NOW AT NEW WATER SOURCES BY BUYING PERMITS THAT ALREADY EXIST, EASY WAY. THANK YOU AND STAFF FOR DOING THAT. AS WE KEEP GROWING, WE HAVE TO KEEP BUILDING. WE CANNOT STAY STILL. IF NOT, YOU WILL RUN OUT OF WATER, JUST LIKE THE REST OF US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH YOU AND YOUR STAFF. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE JOB YOU DO. >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK YOU, CHUCK, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON WATER AND THE REGIONAL WATER ISSUES. YOU SAID 1993, AND YOU ARE ONE OF THE ARCHITECTS OF THE MASTER WATER PLAN AND TAMPA BAY WATER BEHIND THE SCENES, AND NOW YOU HAVE BEEN A LEADER IN BRINGING THE CITY OF TAMPA AND TAMPA BAY WATER TOGETHER. TAMPA BAY WATER IS ARGUABLY ONE OF THE BEST REGIONAL COOPERATIVES IN THE WORLD. IT'S BEEN LAUDED IN WATER CONFERENCES ALL OVER THE WORLD. IN THE TAMPA BAY REGION, IT IS THE PRIMARY ONLY EXAMPLE OF TRUE REGIONAL COOPERATION IN OUR REGION. THE TRANSPORTATION AND OTHER INITIATIVES FOR REGIONAL COOPERATION HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTED BUT HAVE NOT WORKED AND HAVE NOT GONE TOGETHER. THAT'S BECAUSE OF A LOT OF REALLY SMART PEOPLE LIKE YOU, JERRY MAXWELL, ED TURANCHIK, STEVE SEIBERT, MANY, MANY OTHERS WHO HELPED PUT THAT TOGETHER 30 YEARS AGO. I WANT TO THANK THEM BUT THANK YOU PERSONALLY. ALSO, NOT THAT MANY YEARS AGO, THE CITY OF TAMPA WAS PRACTICALLY AT WAR WITH TRAWR AND WAS -- TAMPA BAY WATER AND WAS TRYING TO PULL OUT AND EVEN AS FAR AS CHANGE LEGISLATION AT THE STATE TO PULL OUT. YOU AND I THINK CHIEF OF STAFF AND RORY AND OTHERS HAVE WORKED TO BRING COOPERATION BACK. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE MAINTAIN THIS COOPERATIVE EFFORT THAT HAS WORKED AND SUPPLIED WATER. IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE THAT. SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. [MICROPHONE NOT ON] -- APPRECIATE HIS INPUT AND HIS VOICE ON CITY COUNCIL. VERY APPRECIATIVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. SHELBY. YOU ARE ON. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, HERE TO SPEAK WITH YOU BRIEFLY ABOUT THE RULES OF DECORUM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IN TODAY'S MEETING. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S COUNCIL MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON AN ITEM. PER COUNCIL'S RULES, PREFERENCE IS GIVEN TO THOSE WHO ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS FIRST. PEOPLE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS GET PREFERENCE AT THE START OF PUBLIC COMMENT. SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT YOU ARE TO REFRAIN, PLEASE, FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS. THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM. NOW, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND PLACE IT IN THE BOX OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS. ONE CARD PER SPEAKER. CARDS ARE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME BY THE CHAIR TO APPROACH AND SPEAK. A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES. PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY. NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED. IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING, THEY ARE DESIGNATED AS PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE AGENDA. THE TIME TO SPEAK TO THOSE WILL BE HEARD LATER ON IN THE AGENDA WHEN EACH ITEM IS CALLED UP. PLEASE DO NOT SPEAK DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS THAT ARE SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PLEASE SILENCE YOUR TELEPHONES, PLEASE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THOUGHT THAT ONE WAS DONE. AND FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW ALONG ON THE AGENDA, ITEMS NUMBERS 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46 AND 47 ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS. THE TIME TO SPEAK TO THOSE ARE WHEN THE ITEMS ARE CALLED AND ACTUALLY, FRANKLY, I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND TO THE CHAIR THAT IF SOMEBODY IS HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC COMMENT, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT THAT BEGINS TALKING ABOUT AN ITEM SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, THAT THEY BE ASKED TO TALK LATER. OTHERWISE, BE RULED OUT OF ORDER PLEASE. NOW, THE PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL'S RULES MAY BE RULED OUT OF ORDER BY THE CHAIR. AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR, MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S MEETING. FINALLY, COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION TO THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY. HERE WE GO. ELIZABETH THOMAS FOLLOWED BY KATHERINE MICHAELS. >> GOOD MORNING. ELIZABETH THOMAS. I LIVE SOUTH OF GANDY. I'M HERE TO ASK FOR FOCUSED ATTENTION ON GADSDEN PARK LOCATED ON MacDILL AVENUE JUST OUTSIDE MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE. GADSDEN PARK IS A LARGE, BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND WITH TREMENDOUS POTENTIAL. UNFORTUNATELY HAS BEEN NEGLECTED FOR YEARS. I'M NOT HERE WITH A SINGLE COMPLAINT BUT TO SHARE WHY THIS PARK MATTERS AND WHY SMALL ONE-OFF REPAIRS ARE NO LONGER ENOUGH. FIRST, I'LL START WITH THE LITTLE LEAGUE AREA. THIS PART OF THE PARK IS HEAVILY USED YEAR-ROUND BY INTERBAY LITTLE LEAGUE, INCLUDING FALL AND SPRING SEASONS, WINTER CLASSIC THAT JUST FINISHED UP AND CHALLENGER LEAGUE FOR CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES. DESPITE THAT USE, FLOODING AFTER EVEN MINOR RAINFALL CANCELS GAMES AND PRACTICES, TAKES A LONG TIME FOR IT TO DRY UP. ACTUALLY, THE DUCKS END UP MOVING IN. THERE ARE NO CONTINUOUS SIDEWALKS CONNECTING PARKING FIELDS OR BATHROOMS AND UNEVEN GROUNDS CREATES REAL SAFETY ISSUES FOR ELDERLY FAMILY MEMBERS AND EVEN PLAYERS. SEVERAL YEARS AGO, A PORT-A-POTTY WAS INSTALLED AS A TEMPORARY ADA BATHROOM SOLUTION. A MONTH IS TEMPORARY. A YEAR IS NOT. IMPORTANTLY, AN ADA AUDIT WAS COMPLETED AND PROVIDED TO THE CITY A FEW YEARS AGO. SECONDLY, THE MAIN PARK AREA AND PAVILION, ON THE PARK MAP, THE AREA LABELED AS HAVING A PLAYGROUND. I ASSURE YOU THERE IS NO PLAYGROUND THERE. INSTEAD, A FEW OUTDATED PAVILIONS AND LARGE DIRT FIELD ESSENTIALLY UNUSABLE. LAST YEAR, THIS AREA WAS USED TO STORE CITY HURRICANE DEBRIS THAT PILED NEARLY TEN FEET HIGH. MANY IN THE COMMUNITY BELIEVE THAT ONCE THIS WAS CLEARED, THE PARK WOULD BE MADE WHOLE AGAIN AND EVEN BETTER BUT THAT NEVER HAPPENED. TODAY, IT REMAINS DIRT, OFTEN USED FOR TRUCK PARKING AND WASTED AS GREENSPACE IT ONCE WAS. THIS COULD BE A GATHERING SPACE, SOCCER FIELD, PLAYGROUND OR ALL OF THE ABOVE BUT IT IS NONE OF THOSE THINGS TODAY. ACROSS THE REST OF THE PARK, FENCING, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE DOG PARK, IS DAMAGED. THE SMALL PLAYGROUND THAT DOES EXIST NEAR THE DOG PARK DESPERATELY NEEDS UPGRADES. SAFE WALKING PATHS, ESPECIALLY ADA ACCESSIBLE ROUTES CONNECTING PARK AREAS ARE MISSING. THIS IS WHAT LONG-TERM NEGLECT LOOKS LIKE. I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT FUNDING SOME IMMEDIATE REPAIRS AND I TRULY HOPE THAT THOSE MOVE FORWARD. BUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT IS ONE-TIME INVESTMENT FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER DECADE OR TWO OF INACTION. THIS PARK SHOULD BE A DESTINATION. IT COULD BE A COMMUNITY ANCHOR, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF NEGLECT, NOT LACK OF OPPORTUNITY. SO MY ASK IS TO ADDRESS THE KNOWN SAFETY AND ADA ISSUES NOW AND COMMIT TO A PLAN GOING FORWARD SO THAT GADSDEN PARK ISN'T FORGOTTEN AGAIN. THE LAND IS THERE. WHAT'S NEEDED NOW IS FOLLOW-THROUGH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. I WENT THROUGH THE FORMS AND I'VE GOT -- KATHERINE RICHARDS, PRESIDENT YVETTE LEWIS, CONNIE BURTON AND EMILY HENSDALE. REQUIRES YOU ARE REQUESTING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 41 WHICH WILL NOT BE CALLED UNTIL THE ITEM WILL BE HEARD, WHICH IS PART OF THE 10:00 HEARINGS. UNLESS THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU WISH TO SPEAK EARLY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RAISE YOUR HAND, I WILL CALL YOU. THIS IS JUST FOR THE FOUR PEOPLE I CALLED. CONNIE. OKAY. CONNIE BURTON, COME ON UP. AND THEN FOLLOWED BY TARAH BLUMA. >> GOOD MORNING. CONNIE BURTON. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL, THE RULES IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING BASED ON HOW THE AGENDA IS SET AND BASED ON THE PEOPLE THAT'S IN THE AUDIENCE. BECAUSE TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT STORMWATER, BEFORE WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU RUSHED THAT FIRST TO THE AGENDA BECAUSE THERE WERE TOO MANY PEOPLE FROM CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS. WE GOT TO STOP THAT. ITEM NUMBER 18, I KNOW IT WAS PULLED, BUT I DID WANT TO TOUCH ON THE FACT THAT FAIR OAKS WAS A 40 SOME PLUS MILLION DOLLAR PARK. WHEN WE LOOK AT WHO AND HOW DID THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT, WE SEE THE BEAUTIFUL -- FAIR OAKS, IN TERMS OF THE CONSTRUCTION, THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH BUILDING THAT PARK, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SUCH A GOOD IDEA, MORE THAN AN IDEA, THAT IF OUR COMMUNITY COULD HELP ECONOMICALLY BENEFIT IT AS WELL. SO WHEN YOU'RE DOING ITEM NUMBER 18 AND WHO IS GOING TO DO THAT WONDERFUL ARTWORK, I HOPE IT REFLECTS THAT PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT RESOURCE AS WELL. ITEM NUMBER 66, I WANT TO APPRECIATE THE WAY IN WHICH THE COUNCILMAN HAS REALLY DUG INTO BRINGING HUMANITY AND CONSCIOUSNESS AND A SOURCE OF HUMAN RESPECT. PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE JUST TALKED AGAINST, LOOKED DOWN ON. SO NOW THE CALL IS SAYING FOR THIS COUNCIL, THIS CITY, AND THE CITIZENS TO REPUDIATE SUCH HARSH WORDS. I ALSO WANT TO REMIND BUT RESOLUTION THAT THIS BLACK COMMUNITY, THIS AFRICAN COMMUNITY TRIED TO MOVE AND WITH THE STROKE OF THE PEN, THE THOUGHT OF COMING DOWN SOMETHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, IT WAS ALL DISMISSED. THE ISSUES OF AFRICAN PEOPLE HAS NOT BEEN RESOLVED, IRREGARDLESS OF WHAT THAT PRESIDENT SAYS AND THE WAY THAT THIS COUNCIL AND THIS CITY COWER TO PRESSURE, THAT WE STILL HAVE ONGOING UNDERLYING ISSUES AS IT DEALS WITH LACK OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES CHILDREN YOUNG PEOPLE BEING EXCLUDED FROM OPPORTUNITY, RETURNING CITIZENS. ON AND ON AND ON. YOU CANNOT JUST MAKE THIS CITY GREAT WITH BEAUTIFUL STRUCTURE. WE HAVE TO HAVE A WAY IN WHICH INCLUSION OF ALL PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE. AND IT IS NOT REFLECTED IN THIS AGENDA WEEK AFTER WEEK. WE NEED YOU ALL TO BE CREATIVE, THAT IF YOU ARE AFRAID OF SOME FORM OF RETALIATION COMING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, THAT YOU FIND A WAY IN SAYING THAT IF YOU ARE GIVING OUT $24 MILLION PROJECTS, THEN HOW DO THE LEAST OF THIS COMMUNITY IS ABLE TO BENEFIT ECONOMICALLY. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. BURTON. TARAH BLUMA FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE POYNOR. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. I'M TARAH BLUMA. I'M ALSO HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT PARKS THERE SOUTH TAMPA. I APPRECIATE THAT MANY OF YOU OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS AND MONTHS HAVE GIVEN SOME ADDITIONAL ATTENTION TO OUR PARKS. I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE AREA LOOKING AROUND. I'M SURE AS YOU'VE SEEN, THEY ARE IN DISREPAIR. WHILE MOST OTHER AREAS OF THIS CITY HAVE BENEFITED FROM CRA FUNDING TO BUILD AND IMPROVE PARKS, OURS, OBVIOUSLY HAS NOT AND THEY HAVE DETERIORATED. THIS IS FRUSTRATING AS WE HAVE SIMULTANEOUSLY BEEN BURDENED WITH THE BRUNT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT. I AM VERY, VERY HAPPY THAT MANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT SOME OF THE EXCESS FUNDING FROM THIS YEAR TO PARKS IN NON-CRA AREAS. I ECHO ELIZABETH THAT GADSDEN PARK IS A PRIME LOCATION FOR SIGNIFICANT PARK INVESTMENT. THERE'S TONS OF ROOM THERE, AND IT IS VERY BUSY WITH SPORTS TEAMS, BUT HAS ALMOST NOTHING IN TERMS OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. TO SAY THAT IT'S UNDERUTILIZED IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. IT'S VERY CLOSE TO MacDILL IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH LOTS OF MILITARY FAMILIES AND SOUTH OF GANDY, WE'VE HAD EXPLOSIVE GROWTH. OUR TRAFFIC HAS TRIPLED. WE'VE DEALT WITH THE BRUNT OF THE GROWING PAINS DOWN THERE WITHOUT RECEIVING A LOT OF BENEFIT FROM THE CITY IN RETURN. PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY IN TAXES WOULD LIKE A NICE PARK TO TAKE THEIR KIDS. TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY, GADSDEN WAS PILED A MILE HIGH WITH HURRICANE DEBRIS FOR SIX PLUS MONTHS. THIS WAS NOT A NICE PARK BEFORE, BUT CONTRACTORS DID NOT EVEN PUT THE PARK BACK TO THE WAY THAT THEY FOUND IT. IT WAS USED LIKE A DUMP AND STILL LOOKS LIKE IT. APPARENTLY, A REQUIREMENT TO RESTORE THE PARK AFTER IT WAS USED WAS MISSING FROM THAT CONTRACT. SO WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT THAT NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN. BEFORE YOU, YOU HAVE A REQUEST FOR 700,000 TO HELP WITH THE ADA BATHROOMS AT THAT PARK. AND THAT IS AN EXCELLENT BEGINNING AS WE HAVE A SPECIAL NEEDS TEAM THAT USES THAT PARK AS ITS HOME FIELD. SO I'M SHOCKED THIS HASN'T BEEN DONE PRIOR TO THIS. I FULLY SUPPORT THIS. HOWEVER, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SO MUCH MORE. THERE IS NO WAY FOR PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS OR WALKERS TO EVEN GET TO THE FIELDS, WHICH IS A TRAVESTY. GADSDEN IS THE PERFECT LOCATION TO MAKE A FIRST-CLASS, ALL ABILITIES PARK. FINALLY, IN THE MEMO FROM MR. FOWLER, HE STATED THERE IS AN RFQ OUT FOR CRA AREAS AND CITYWIDE TO IMPROVE ACCESSIBILITY. THE MOTION WAS FOR NON-CRA AREAS. SO LET'S KEEP THIS CONVERSATION FOCUSED ON THAT. IMPROVED ACCESSIBILITY CAN ALSO BE INTERPRETED AS SIDEWALKS AND BATHROOMS, BUT THE MOTION WAS ABOUT PLAYGROUNDS, SO LET'S FOLLOW UP ABOUT THAT. HE STATED IT'S STANDARD PRACTICE TO INCLUDE INCLUSIVE PLAY EQUIPMENT AT ALL PARKS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITH ITEM 41, BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE, I KNOW THAT WE TALK ABOUT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION QUICKLY AND THEN ANOTHER ITEM, IS THERE ANY WAY TO MOVE ITEM 41 -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS A NOTICED PROXIMATE CAUSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S 9:53. >>LYNN HURTAK: BEFORE CONSENT, I'LL SECOND THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL CALL IT OUT OF ORDER. AFTER WE GET DONE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT, I'LL ENTERTAIN THE MOTION. STEPHANIE POYNOR, FOLLOWED BY EDWARD BRIGGS. >> GOOD MORNING. STEPHANIE POYNOR. I HAVE HANDED YOU EACH A COPY OF THIS. IT'S LONG AND DRAWN OUT, BUT THE VERY BACK PAGE SAYS THAT A GENTLEMAN AT A CONTRACTING COMPANY COUNTS HOW MANY SIDEWALK PANELS NEED TO BE REPLACED ON BAYSHORE, BETWEEN BAY TO BAY AND PLATT. 147. AT NO POINT DURING ALL THE E-MAIL CHANGES, ANYBODY FROM STAFF SAID, YEAH, I WENT OUT AND COUNTED. THAT'S RIGHT. WHEN DID WE ALLOW CONTRACTORS TO DEFINE A CONTRACT? DEFINE THE SCOPE OF WORK? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT LAST I HEARD THAT WASN'T THE CASE AROUND HERE. BACK ON THE VERY FRONT PAGE, IT SAYS WITH OTHER STAFF MEMBERS, I WANT YOU GUYS TO SEE THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS A MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT AND YET BROKE DOWN IN FOUR PIECES SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. MY FIRST QUESTION IS, FOLKS, I HEARD IN THE PAST THAT THERE IS A TIF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT PAYS FOR A LOT OF THE MAINTENANCE ON BAYSHORE. MY BIG PROBLEM IS, WE SPENT A MILLION DOLLARS WITHOUT BRINGING IT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL ON SIDEWALKS, AND LAST I HEARD IT WAS $229 A FOOT FOR US TO REPLACE SIDEWALKS IN THE CITY. AND IS THAT THE ONLY -- WAS THAT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF OUR CITY DOLLARS? WHY WOULD THE CONTRACTOR BE DEFINING THE SCOPE OF WORK? I DON'T SEE IT IN HERE. MR. ADAIR, WHEN HE PULLED PUBLIC RECORDS. SO YOU GUYS CAN FIGURE IT OUT. RIDDLE ME THIS, WHY IS THIS GOING ON? I DON'T KNOW. DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. IT IS CONFIRMED THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL E-MAIL FROM REVENUE AND FINANCE THAT DID CONFIRM THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO FOUR CONTRACTS. BUT I COULDN'T FIND IT THIS MORNING. NUMBER 68, YES, IT'S BEEN CONTINUED, BUT WE NEED THE DOCUMENTS NOW. THE FEE STUDIES ARE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. THIS MOBILITY FEE STUDY THAT EVERYBODY SAYS IS A BIG SURPRISE THAT I'VE HAD SINCE 2023 BECAUSE SOMEBODY TOLD ME ABOUT IT, AND I PULLED PUBLIC RECORDS ON IT, AND HERE WE ARE TWO YEARS LATER JUST GETTING DOWN THE ROAD ON IT. YOU GUYS DIDN'T SEE IT FOREVER UNTIL I SENT IT TO YOU. BUT THEN WE PAID ANOTHER HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. INSTEAD OF PAYING $100,000 FOR A FEE STUDY FOR MOBILITY, WE ENDED UP PAYING TWO. ASK FOR THE DOCUMENTS. THERE'S NO REASON THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA HAVE PAID FOR THAT FEE STUDY. SO IT NEEDS TO BE PUBLISHED. I DON'T NEED ANYBODY TO READ IT FOR ME. I'M A BIG GIRL. IF I HAVE QUESTIONS, THEN WE'LL WORRY ABOUT QUESTIONS LATER. MOBILITY FEES. I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYBODY VOTE AGAINST THEM. WHY, WHAT POLICY IS IT THAT YOU GET 12 WEEKS PAID VACATION BEFORE YOU GET FIRED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL? WHERE IS THE POLICY? I AGREE WITH THE LADIES ABOUT GADSDEN PARK. ALSO, ASK WHERE THE $2 MILLION THAT THEA GAVE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA IN 2021 TO UPGRADE AJ PALONIS PARK WHICH THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING ON. WHERE DOES ALL THIS MONEY GO? OH, WAIT, IT WENT TO THE RIVERWALK, I THINK. MAYBE. WHO KNOWS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR. MR. BRIGGS FOLLOWED BY VICTOR DiMAIO. >> I'M FOR MOBILITY IMPACT FEES. C.I CAN WAIT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VICTOR DiMAIO FOLLOWED BY JASON REEKMANS. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS VICTOR DiMAIO, 1205 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SOUTH HOWARD STORMWATER PROJECT. I'M HERE REPRESENTING BERN'S STEAK HOUSE AND EPICUREAN HOTEL ON SOUTH HOWARD, CONCERNING THE FLOOD RELIEF PROJECTS AND ALL THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS IT WILL HAVE ON THE BUSINESSES. I'VE ENCLOSED -- I'VE GIVEN YOU ALL A PACKET WITH A LETTER THAT WAS SENT THAT I'M GIVING TO YOU NOW. I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH AN E-MAIL. IT WAS SEPTEMBER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THIS MORNING CONCERNING A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS. ONE IS RETAIN AN ATTORNEY, LOCAL ATTORNEY NAMED ED DELEPART. HE IS ONE OF THE LEADING STORMWATER AND WATER EXPERTS, NOT IN THE STATE, STATE OF FLORIDA, THE COUNTRY. OVER 48 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN STORMWATER ISSUES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED THROUGH HIM IS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN SAYING THEY DON'T NEED TO DO AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT. ACCORDING TO MR. DELEPART, THEY DO. AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE STARTED OUR OWN ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT. IT'S ABOUT 90 PAGES LONG. WE JUST STARTED IT. WE IDENTIFIED ABOUT $35 MILLION OF ECONOMIC LOSSES THAT'S GOING TO BE SUFFERED BY THE PEOPLE IN SOUTH HOWARD IF THE PROJECT GOES FORWARD. AS A LITTLE NOTE, MR. DELEPART HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THE CITY OF WEST PALM BEACH IN HOLDING UP A PROJECT FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS. AND THE REASON HE'S DONE IT IS BECAUSE -- AND THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON NOW WITH SOUTH HOWARD -- THEY HAVE NOT YET APPLIED FOR THE PERMITS. THERE ARE SEVERAL STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES THAT HAVE TO BE -- THAT THE CITY HAS TO APPLY FOR PERMITS TO DO THIS FORWARD. AGAIN, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY REQUIRE. SO WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO -- FORCED TO DO IT, AS INTERVENORS APPLYING TO THE AGENCIES AS THE CITY APPLIES FOR THE PERMITS TO OPPOSE THE PERMIT BEING ISSUED. UNTIL WE CAN REACH AN AGREEMENT. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THIS IS ALL TAKING PLACE AND TO GIVE YOU ALL A HEADS UP ABOUT IT. WE ALSO CONTRACTED WITH A GENTLEMAN WITH ABOUT 30 SOME YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN STORMWATER. HE'S BEEN HERE BEFORE WITH US. MR. DAVID DeLOACH FROM ORLANDO. HE IS THE ONE WORKING ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY. HE ALSO IDENTIFIED SEVERAL ALTERNATIVE ISSUES, PROJECTS THAT CAN BE DONE ON SOUTH HOWARD. ALL OF THEM WHICH DO NOT HAVE TO ENTAIL TEARING UP HOWARD AVENUE FOR THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS, BUT WILL BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THE STORMWATER ISSUES THAT ARE BEING FACED THERE NOW IN SOUTH TAMPA. I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS LATER ON IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK. I APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU HAVE GIVEN ME TODAY. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. DiMAIO. JASON REEKMANS FOLLOWED BY PAMELA CANNELLA. >> JASON REEKMANS. I LIVE IN DISTRICT 5. FOLLOWING UP ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO THIS IS A PRESENTATION THAT WAS DONE A WHILE AGO. SAYS ADOPT THE MISSING MIDDLE. THIS IS A DUPLEX ON 4th AVENUE. NOT IN THE CORRIDOR. I THINK THAT WE CAN BUILD STUFF LIKE THIS IN EAST TAMPA. ANOTHER PAGE FROM THE PRESENTATION, IT SAYS ALLOW FOR DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, FOUR PLEXES IN THE MISSING MIDDLE OVERLAY, ELIMINATE MINIMUM LOT SIZES AND SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENTS, REDUCE AND ELIMINATE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. SO WE CAN RESOLVE A LOT OF THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING STUFF. FOR INSTANCE, THESE ARE TWO ONE 500-SQUARE-FOOT HOUSE. ONE 750-SQUARE-FOOT HOUSE IN YBOR. IF WE WERE ALLOWED TO GO TO ZONING AND REQUEST FOR A 3,000-SQUARE-FOOT LOT, WE CAN BUILD TWO-STORY PROPERTIES WHERE YOUR FIRST RESPONDERS, EVEN PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THE CITY, CAN ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE CITY. IF WE COULD BUILD QUADRUPLEXES. TWO QUADS, SIDE BY SIDE IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S NOT IN A CORRIDOR. A LOT OF PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA, THEY OWN LAND. THEY CAN DO THIS IF ZONING WOULD ALLOW IT. FHA WOULD ALLOW THEM TO QUALIFY FOR ONE UNIT AND BE ABLE TO BUILD FOUR UNITS AND PROVIDE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED HOUSING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS A DUPLEX IN TAMPA HEIGHTS. IF I WERE ALLOWED TO BUILD STUFF LIKE THIS, A PERSON, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO WITH FHA IS QUALIFY FOR ONE SIDE AND BE ABLE TO RENT OUT THE OTHER UNITS, SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT NEEDS A PLACE TO LIVE. ANOTHER QUAD. TAMPA HEIGHTS, SAME THING. I JUST WANT THE COUNCIL TO ASSIST ME. IF YOU GUYS GET BEHIND ME, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THIS. THAT'S REALLY IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PAM, FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY MORROW. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS PAM CANNELLA. I RECENTLY ASKED A CITY STORMWATER ENGINEER, WHY DID YOU APPROVE THIS APPLICATION? THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN OUR COASTAL HIGH HAZARD FLOOD AREA. HE SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. MY JOB IS BASED ONLY ON CONCEPTUAL. I'M ONLY GIVEN INFORMATION THAT I KNOW THAT I NEED TO KNOW. NEED TO KNOW. CONCEPTUAL. IT'S BASED ON ABSTRACT IDEAS VERSUS CONCRETE FACTS. DECISIONS ON MAJOR IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS SUCH AS THE HOWARD PROJECT, NEEDS TO BE BASED ON MORE THAN CONCEPTUAL. FOR ANY PROJECT TO BE SUCCESSFUL, THEY NEED TO BE BASED ON FACTS, RESEARCH, AND FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE SUCH AS RESIDENTS CAN GIVE. BECAUSE THEY ARE CONCERNED AND INVESTED IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE KNOW WHEN THERE IS ASPHALT IN THE DRAINS OR DEBRIS AND TRASH. WE KNOW WHEN PUMPS ARE NOT WORKING. WE KNOW ABOUT CAVE-INS. NEWLY PAVED ROADS. NEW DEVELOPMENT. WE KNOW WHICH WAY STORMWATER FLOWS ALONG THE STREETS. THESE ARE THE INCONSISTENCIES THAT ALTER STORMWATER RUNOFF FLOW AND AFFECT STORMWATER DRAINAGE. I DO KNOW THE SOLUTION TO PALMA CEIA PINES FLOODING HAS TO BE WITHIN THE PALMA CEIA PINES AREA, NOT HOWARD. STARTING WITH CLEANING OR REPLACING PIPES WITH ASPHALT, CLEAN THE TWO PONDS AND ADDRESS THE HOSPITAL PUMP SYSTEM. THE FLOODING RELIEF PROJECTS NEEDS TO BEGIN WITH PALMA CEIA PINES. THESE RESIDENTS NEED RELIEF FROM FLOODING. THEIR FEARS ARE REAL. THAT AREA HAS HAD FLOODING PROBLEMS FOR DECADES. IN 1988, THE CLEVELAND STREET BASIN DRAINAGE STUDY ADDRESSED PALMA CEIA PINES FLOODING. THE PREFERRED SOLUTION ACCORDING TO THE CLEVELAND STUDY WAS A STORMWATER RETENTION POND TO BE USED FOR MANAGEMENT OF STORMWATER QUALITY AND QUANTITY. IMPORTANT FOR QUALITY BECAUSE OF A HOSPITAL AND THE CONTROL OF POLLUTANTS. PERMIT REPORT DUE IN FEBRUARY, THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. CITY OF TAMPA'S VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT 2025 ADDRESSES PALMA CEIA PINES. VULNERABILITY TO HEAVY RAINFALL AND HEAVILY RELIANT ON PUMPS, BUT IT HAS NO BACKUP PUMP, THE ONE OVER THERE IN THE HOSPITAL. THE PUMP, WHO KNOWS IF IT IS WORKING. THIS AREA IS VULNERABLE TO FLOODING AND NEEDS A PUMP FOR DRAINAGE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, PAM. >> THANK YOU. MERRY CHRISTMAS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AS WELL. ASHLEY MORROW FOLLOWED BY MENTESNOT. GOOD MORNING, ASHLEY. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW. I WILL BE SHARING TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY. LAST WEEK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SECOND INFANTRY REGIMENT THAT WAS HERE DOWN IN TAMPA. SHOUT-OUT TO THE VETERANS IN THE ROOM. THERE WERE OVER 140 BLACK UNION SOLDIERS DURING THE EMANCIPATION OF TAMPA. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT LIST, THERE IS A QR CODE. THE FREEDMAN'S BUREAU OFFICE WAS HERE. IT WAS FORMED TO HELP THE ENSLAVED INDIVIDUALS AS WELL AS WHITE REFUGEES. ESTABLISHED ON MARCH 3, 1865 AND PROVIDED ESSENTIAL SERVICES LIKE EDUCATION, LEGAL AID AND ECONOMIC SUPPORT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOLS, LAND AND ALSO THE LOCATION OF THE OFFICE. THE OFFICE WAS LOCATED -- COME ON NOW -- IT WAS LOCATED ON WASHINGTON STREET AND MONROE, WHICH IS FLORIDA AVENUE AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, DON'T QUOTE ME. AND IT WAS A TWO-STORY BUILDING. THEY WERE IN THE FRONT ROOM THAT WAS 16 BY 24 FEET OR 24 BY 16 FEET AND HAD A FIREPLACE. THE SCHOOL THAT WAS ESTABLISHED WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE SUMMER OF 1868 AND IT HAD A TUITION OF $25 AND IT WAS OWNED BY A WHITE MAN NAMED MR. ABE GRANT. I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS MAN IS. THE INSTRUCTOR WAS JAMES ROBERT. IT WAS THE FIRST ESTABLISHED IN BROOKSVILLE AND GOT MOVED TO TAMPA. TAMPA HAD THE MILITARY FORT SO THERE WAS MORE PROTECTION HERE THAN IN BROOKSVILLE. IT WAS INITIALLY CALLED -- LIKE THIS AFRICAN AMERICAN NEGRO SCHOOL BUT EVENTUALLY RENAMED TO AFRICAN UNION. THAT WAS THE NAME OF THE FREEDMEN'S BUREAU SCHOOL. THEN HARLEM ACADEMY 1871. THIS WAS A PRIVATE SCHOOL. HARLEM ACADEMY WAS THE FIRST PUBLIC SCHOOL, AFRICAN AMERICAN PUBLIC SCHOOL. LAND. SO IN ORDER TO GET LAND, YOU HAD TO OCCUPY IT FOR FIVE YEARS, CULTIVATE IT AND COULDN'T BEAR ARMS AGAINST THE U.S. IN ORDER TO ACQUIRE LAND. THAT'S HOW A LOT OF BLACK PEOPLE ACQUIRED LAND WITH THE HOMESTEAD ACT. LOCATING AGENT WAS A WHITE MAN NAMED WILLIAM APTHORP. YOU'LL SEE A CHARLES -- CYRUS CHARLES AND THOMAS JACKSON, BOTH BLACK MEN THAT OWNED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LAND. I'LL SHOW A MAP IN A LITTLE BIT. HERE IS A MAP. YOU KNOW FORTUNE TAYLOR. CYRUS CHARLES ALSO OWNED LAND AND THOMAS JACKSON ALSO OWNED LAND NEAR DOWNTOWN. OTHER BLACK LANDOWNERS. SEE HOMESTEAD RECORDS, THIS IS THE QR CODE FOR THAT. HERE IS A MAP ON TOP OF A CITY OF TAMPA MAP. THE STRAZ IS HERE. HOTEL IS RIGHT HERE. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL VILLAGE OF CITY OF TAMPA. ALSO THOMAS JACKSON THAT OWNED THIS LAND. THIS IS WHERE THE SCRUB IS OR WAS TODAY. THIS WAS A WHITE MAN NAMED SAM MITCHELL. BUT BLACK PEOPLE STARTED OWNING THIS AREA IN MOUNT SINAI, AME ZION CHURCH LOCATED AT THE CORNER I BELIEVE IN THIS AREA INITIALLY, THE FIRST LOCATION. HERE IS A LIGHTER MAP SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE ON TOP OF THIS MAP WHERE THINGS WERE LOCATED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, ASHLEY. LOVE IT. MENTESNOT FOLLOWED BY JOHN GREENE. GOOD MORNING. >> UHURU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MERRY CHRISTMAS. >> UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI. WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT FREEDOM. WHEN I LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SEE MY BLACK FACE AND BLACK SKIN, I SEE IGNORANT NEGRO. I TELL MY KIDS, SAY YOU SO IGNORANT, SO DUMB, YOU'LL NEVER BE NOTHING. I INSPIRE THEM TO BE NOTHING BECAUSE THE BLACK SKIN MAKE YOU IGNORANT. IF WE THINK OF OURSELVES LIKE THAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK OTHER PEOPLE THINK OF US LIKE. WHAT DO YOU THINK IN THIS CITY, LISTEN TO THIS, IN THIS CITY, MAYOR POE, MAYOR GRECO, MAYOR MARTINEZ, MAYOR GRECO, MAYOR FREEDMAN, MAYOR FREEDMAN, MAYOR IORIO, MAYOR BUCKHORN, MAYOR BUCKHORN. THE NEW MAYOR, CASTOR AND CASTOR AND THE WHOLE TIME, NOT ONE OF THEM HAS EVER ENDORSED AN AFRICAN PERSON TO RUN FOR MAYOR. BECAUSE THEY THINK WE'RE THAT DUMB. THE WHITE FOLKS HAD THEIR CHANCES. THE SPANISH PEOPLE, OTHER MINORITIES HAD THEIR CHANCES. BUT THEY HAVE NEVER RAISED AN AFRICAN UP O'THAN OTIS ANTHONY AND THAT WENT NOWHERE. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE BUCKHORN TRYING TO GET ANOTHER TURN AND NOBODY IS SAYING LET'S PUT A BLACK PERSON OUT THERE TO GOVERN THE CITY AND SHOW THAT WE ARE PROGRESSIVE. ST. PETE HAVE A BLACK MAYOR. PLANT CITY HAVE A BLACK MAYOR. SARASOTA HAD A BLACK MAYOR, DECADES AGO. TAMPA NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING. IT'S 2026. THAT'S NOT THE ONLY PROBLEM. FOR 50 YEARS I'VE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT FLOODING IN SOUTH TAMPA, FLOODING HENDERSON BOULEVARD, FLOODING ON DALE MABRY AND HENDERSON. FLOODING ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD. YOU CAN'T EVEN GET INTO YOUR YARD 50% OF THE TIME WHEN IT RAINS. BAYSHORE BOULEVARD IS A MESS. NOTHING IS BEING DONE ABOUT IT. HOUSING IN EAST TAMPA. NOTHING IS BEING DONE ABOUT IT. IT'S A DO-NOTHING CITY COUNCIL. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. THEY TALK, TALK, TALK. THEY GOT A DICTATORIAL PROCESS THAT COMES FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND WHATEVER DIRECTION THE MAYOR WANT TO GO, THE COWARDS RIGHT HERE, COWARDS, STRAIGHT COWARDS, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. YOU HAVE A BIG BULLY COWARD SITTING IN THE CENTER. COWARDS. NOTHING IS BEING DONE. ANYTHING WE TALK, ABOUT REPARATIONS, WE'RE 26 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION. WE GET NOTHING FROM THIS CITY. EAST TAMPA GIVES NOTHING. WEST TAMPA GIVES NOTHING. BUILD A BUNCH OF HIGH-RISES. LOOKS LIKE A DAMN PRISON. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT AFRICAN PEOPLE TO ACCEPT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. MERRY CHRISTMAS. JOHN GREEN FOLLOWED BY SURGRET DOSS. >> GOOD MORNING, JOHN GREENE. THE NAACP IS A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION THAT COLLECTS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BUT YET THEY COME TO ASK YOU FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. THE TAMPA NAACP BRANCH WHO THIS CITY CONTRACTS WITH AGREED TO FUND FOR SPECIFIC TRAINING, WORKSHOPS, COLLABORATION TO HELP THE PEOPLE BECOME PRODUCTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH THEY LIVE BUT USUALLY NEVER GETS IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION ORGANIZATIONAL SKILLS, AND IMPROPER DOCUMENTATION BASED ON MY OPINION. HOWEVER, THERE ARE REPRESENTATIVES THAT COME FROM THE NAACP ORGANIZATION, COMES TO THIS CITY COUNCIL WITH THE GRIEVANCES TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT YET YOU NEVER HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO COME TO THIS PODIUM SO THAT THEY CAN GIVE AN ACCOUNT FOR WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH YOUR MONEY, THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY, TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHICH THEY HAVE ZERO CREDIBILITY IN THIS BLACK COMMUNITY ANYMORE, RIGHT? SOME PEOPLE. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. THE TAX PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH THEIR MONEY. I'M ASKING THAT YOU CALL THEM TO THIS PODIUM TO GIVE A FULL PRESENTATION OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH THEIR WORKSHOPS, WHO THEY ARE CONTRACTING, PAYROLLS AND THE FULL AUDIT. YOU HAVE THE PAPER HERE. THE PRESIDENT HAS SIGNED THE AGREEMENT, AND THEY ARE TO HOLD IT FOR SIX YEARS AND YOU HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO CALL THEM TO DO THIS AT ANY TIME UP TO SIX YEARS. HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. IT'S ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY. IT'S NOT ABOUT DEGRADING OR BEING CONDESCENDING. WE JUST WANT THEM TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PEOPLE WHO THEY ARE REQUESTING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM AND WHICH THEY GET MILLIONS FROM THEIR NATIONAL ORGANIZATION. THAT'S ALL WE ARE ASKING FOR. AND JUST LIKE THEY CAN COME DOWN HERE WITH THEIR GRIEVANCES AND TELL YOU ALL WHAT TO DO, YOU ALL NEED TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE OR ELSE TAKE THIS HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND FIND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHO CAN COME DOWN HERE, GIVE A PITCH, AND MAKE IT EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERY OTHER ORGANIZATION, JUST LIKE YOU ALL DO WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OTHER DEPARTMENTS FROM THIS ORGANIZATION AND GO ON. THAT'S WHAT YOU HEAR, BULLIES BACK THERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, THERE'S NO PEANUT GALLERY. WE CAN'T RESPOND LIKE THAT. RESPECT FOR EVERYBODY, PLEASE. MR. DOS FOLLOWED BY ROBIN LOCKETT. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. I'M SUR SURGRET DOSS. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ASK WHY I COME DOWN HERE AND CALL YOU ALL KINDS OF NAMES. I TELL THEM, I SAY TO YOUR FACES WHAT I KNOW YOU SAID ABOUT ME IN THE 7,000 E-MAILS I STILL HAVE BEEN THE BEEN ABLE TO GET. YOU ALL KNOW THAT I'M NOT AFRAID OF YOU ALL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I MAKE THAT CLEAR. I APPLY THE SAME KIND OF LOGIC THAT POS GREGORY HOLDER WHEN HE WAS A SITTING JUDGE OVER THERE APPLIED WHEN HE CALLED MICHAEL VICTIMMER TO ALLEGE I COMMITTED A CRIME YOU KNOW I DIDN'T COMMIT. CALLED CITY OF TAMPA HENCHMAN BY THE NAME OF MICHAEL VICTOR. I LOOK AT BIGOTS AND HYPOCRITES THE SAME. AIN'T NO CURVE IN MY VERTEBRAE, SHOUT-OUT TO MY SON. I LIKE TO TELL THE DEVIL WHAT I THINK ABOUT HIM. MALCOLM X, SOMETIMES GET OTHER BLACK FOLKS TO KILL OTHER BLACKS FOLKS JUST TO SAY BLACK PERSON DID IT. CONTRARY TO RUMORS CIRCULATING ON THE INTERNET, ALL YOU KNOW I WON SEVERAL CASES OVER THERE SELF-REPRESENTED. YOU ALL CAN GOOGLE ME. FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KNOW WHERE MONEY WENT, I KNOW WHERE A LOT OF MONEY WENT BECAUSE FORTUNATELY FOR ME I DIDN'T HAVE TO SUFFER THE SAME OUTCOME OF MR. HOPS OR DEW BOWS WHO GAVE A COMBINED 60 YEARS OF THEIR LIFE IN PRISON BECAUSE THE CITY OF TAMPA ENDORSED BAD POLICE REPORTS WITH NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THEIR CONVICTIONS. I KNOW YOU ALL GAVE THEM 7.5 MILLION, MR. HOPS. PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH. YOU GAVE MR. DEW BOWS 14 MILLION. DAMN SURE NOT ENOUGH BECAUSE THAT MAN HAD TO BE COMMUTED FROM DEATH ROW BECAUSE YOU ALL SAID HE BIT A WOMAN BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY THE BITE MARK OF A DOG. NOW, SURGRET DOSS, ME, I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE TO SUFFER GOING TO PRISON FOR THE FIVE YEARS THAT GREG HOLDER, MICHAEL VICTOR, MARK KAISER WHO RECUSED HIMSELF, MIKE WOLF, FICARROTTA WHO KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON. CHRISTOPHER GNASH SOMEHOW MY JUDGE NOW ON A CASE I WE SHOULD BE RECUSING HIMSELF BECAUSE HE WAS DISQUALIFIED THEN. TOOK THE SUPREME COURT CHIEF JUDGE TO SEND IN A VISITING JUDGE FROM PINELLAS COUNTY I BELIEVE IT WAS TO DO SOMETHING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN AN HOUR THAT FOR SEVEN MONTHS THEY WERE TRYING TO PUT ME IN PRISON FOR FIVE YEARS BECAUSE I KNEW YOU ALL WERE STEALING HOUSES TO INCLUDE FOUR OF MY HOUSES. I'LL CALIBRATE AND NOT CALL YOU ALL WHAT I WANT TO CALL YOU ALL. I'LL SAY THIS, BLACK FOLKS ARE AFRAID TO COME DOWN HERE. WHEN YOU COME DOWN HERE, YOU STEP UP AND STAND UP FOR BLACK FOLKS OR THE MARGINALIZED, I'LL HELP ANYBODY, THEY RETALIATE AGAINST YOU. CAST FALSE ASPERSIONS. I CAN'T STAND YOU. YOUTH TO UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ROBIN LOCKETT. LAUREN FOLLOWED BY DARYL HYCH. >> HI. GOOD MORNING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, DOCTOR. >> I'M DR. LAUREN HUFF. CITY OF TAMPA RESIDENT FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS. I'VE BEEN COMING HERE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, AND I HEARD PEOPLE MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT TAMPA IS A RACIST CITY. I'M FROM ATLANTA, AND I DON'T KNOW ANY CITY IN THE SOUTH THAT IS NOT RACIST. BLACK PEOPLE IN TAMPA MAKE UP ABOUT 20% OF THE POPULATION COMPARED TO WHERE I AM FROM, ABOUT ALMOST HALF OF THE POPULATION. I DO SEE THE DIFFERENCE. I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT RACISM. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT CLASSISM. I DON'T THINK THE CITY OF TAMPA IS RACIST, BUT I DO THINK YOU ALL DON'T LIKE POOR PEOPLE. I LIVE OFF DALE MABRY AND CYPRESS. I SEE THE HOMELESS PEOPLE THERE AND THEY ARE LAID OUT ON THE GRASS. WHEN I WALK BY, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY NEED MEDICAL CARE. OTHER PEOPLE WALK BY LIKE IT'S COMMON. IT MAKES ME SAD TO SEE THAT. I GO TO THE DUNKIN' DONUTS OFF WEST CYPRESS AND DALE MABRY. THERE ARE HOMELESS PEOPLE THERE ASKING ME TO FEED THEM. I DO GIVE THEM MY BREAKFAST. I GO BACK IN LINE AND GET SOMETHING ELSE. I DO HAVE THE HEART FOR THE HOMELESS. BACK IN OCTOBER, I WENT TO A COMMUNITY MEETING. IT WAS IN THE BORRELL PARK. AND THERE WAS A CITY EMPLOYEE TALKING ABOUT HOW CAN HE IMPROVE THE PARK. ONE OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES SAID WE CAN BRING FOOD TRUCKS. BUT MY CONCERN IS WHAT ABOUT THE HOMELESS? I UNDERSTAND THIS PARK IS RIGHT OFF NEBRASKA, AND THERE ARE HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE. I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS DEALING WITH THE HOMELESS BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT BRINGING FOOD TRUCKS OR BRINGING A PLAYGROUND -- OR BUILDING A PLAYGROUND. I'M HERE TODAY ASKING BECAUSE I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT THE CITY IS GOING TO DO TO HELP THE HOMELESS POPULATION. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JANELLE -- I WAS GOING TO ASK THE SAME THING. BEFORE YOU LEAVE, JANELLE, SHE'S GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT. DARRYL. GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. DARYL HYCH. IF I CAN HAVE THE LITTLE THING UP THERE. ALL RIGHT. I DID THIS EXERCISE SEVERAL YEARS AGO AT A COLLEGE, AND IT WAS ASKED OF ALL THE STUDENTS TO WRITE THE WORD TRUST ON THE PIECE OF PAPER. SO WE WROTE THE WORD TRUST ON THE PIECE OF PAPER. AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU ALL HAVE ONE. IT'S UP THERE. WHEN WE WROTE THE WORD TRUST ON THE PIECE OF PAPER, IT WAS THEN ASKED OF US ALL TO BALL IT UP. AND WHEN WE BALLED IT UP, THE QUESTION WAS THEN ASKED TO UNRAVEL IT. SO WE UNRAVELED IT. WHAT WE LEARNED WAS THAT ONCE YOU DESTROY SOMEONE'S TRUST, YOU CAN'T GET IT BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL STATE. CURRENTLY, THAT'S WHAT WE FEEL IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. WE DON'T TRUST WHAT YOU SAY FROM YOUR DAISES. FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, COLLEAGUES AND I SAT IN A ROOM IN AN OFFICE OVER IN TAMPA AND WE DEVELOPED THIS DOCUMENT. MANY PAGES, THE LAST PAGE SAID MAY 13, 2025. AND WE HAVE ASKED A QUESTION AFTER THIS MEETING WAS, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS, AND AN AIDE. AND I SAID, HEY, LISTEN, YOU EITHER DON'T WANT TO IMPROVE UPON THIS SITUATION WITH RESOLUTION 568 OR YOU ARE TAKING IT PERSONAL IN SOME CATEGORY BECAUSE I OFFERED A SOLUTION. I DID RESEARCH AGAIN TODAY, MAYBE I'M WRONG. MAYBE I'M BASS-ACKWARDS WITH THIS. I ASKED ChatGPT, HEY, ChatGPT PERPLEXITY MUCH BETTER. I SAID, PERPLEXITY, DOES RESOLUTION OF 568 AND STATE STATUTE 163, CHAPTER 3 OF THE CRA, ARE THEY SYNONYMOUS. AND IT SAID, HELL YEAH. BOTH OF THEM MEET SLUM AND BLIGHT. YOU HAVE TO BE TAKING IT PERSONAL TO SAY, OKAY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAID WE CAN'T DO THIS. BUT THE SAME FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS THE CRA. SO WHICH RULE DO YOU WANT TO -- YOU DON'T WANT TO STAND BY. IT HAS TO BE PERSONAL IN SOME REGARDS. I WATCHED THE GUY LAST NIGHT ON Facebook, AND HE SAID AMERICA AND WHITE PEOPLE ARE SYNONYMOUS. SO YOU'RE NOT AN AMERICAN IF YOU'RE NOT WHITE. SO I STAND BEFORE YOU TO TELL YOU, TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THIS BACK. IT WILL NEVER GET BACK IN THE ORIGINAL TEXT BECAUSE YOU HAD US STANDING HERE FOR A YEAR AND SIX MONTHS AND WE GOT NOTHING. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. CLERK, THE ONLINE SPEAKERS, IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE? >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RICK HERNANDEZ. GOOD MORNING, SIR. UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE. RICK? MICHAEL RANDOLPH, ARE YOU ONLINE? >> YES. GOOD MORNING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, MICHAEL. >> TODAY I'LL TALK ABOUT AN UPDATE ON OUR ONLINE TRAINING SCHEDULE FOR FEBRUARY THE 25th AT 7 P.M. FROM THE STREETS TO THE BOARDROOM, GENERATION Z LEADERSHIP TRAINING. THIS PROGRAM YOUNG VOICES FROM EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, PROGRESS VILLAGE, GRANT PARK, AND SULPHUR SPRINGS DEMANDING TO BECOME NEIGHBORHOOD CHANGE MAKERS. HOUSING SECURITY, ECONOMIC DISINVESTMENT AND POLITICAL -- REQUIRE BOLD SOLUTIONS. OUR FOUR WEEK COURSE SHIFTS FROM WHAT IS TO WHAT IF. FROM SERVING MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES TO BUILDING WITH TRANSFORMATION STRATEGY. FOCUSED ON 17 TO 28. FIRST PROGRAM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. OWNERSHIP, AND ASSETS. AND BACK DOOR POLICIES AND FINDINGS. STRATEGIES FOR HOUSING JUSTICE WOULD BE FOCUSED ON ANTI-GENTRIFICATION THAT PROTECT LEGACY RESIDENTS AND -- DISPLACEMENT. PROGRAM AND PROJECT DESIGN FOR THE COMMUNITY. INITIATIVES SHAPE BY LIVED LIFE EXPERIENCE GUIDED BY EVIDENCE-BASED THINKING AND ACCOUNTABILITY. COMMUNITY MOBILIZING AND ORGANIZING. BUILDING TACTICS, COALITION WORK AND -- IMPACT CRITICAL THINKING EXERCISE THAT CHALLENGE ASSUMPTIONS THAT SHAPE STRATEGIES. ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ENTREPRENEURSHIP COLLABORATIVE -- COOPERATIVE AND RECLAIMING LOCAL OWNERSHIP. NEGOTIATIONS. EMPOWERING YOUNG PEOPLE TO NEGOTIATE WITH INSTITUTIONS BY GAINING POLITICAL INSIGHTS INTO POLITICAL -- CRITICAL THINKING AND EVIDENCE-BASED LEADERSHIP, PROBLEM SOLVING, DATA ANALYST, DECISION MAKING ROOTED IN FACTS. ANTI-GENTRIFICATION STRATEGIES AND POLITICAL INSIGHT. UNDERSTANDING POLICY, ZONING, AND DEVELOPMENT TO RESIST DISPLACEMENT. IN 2026, WE WILL WITNESS THE RISE OF A NEW SCHOOL OF THOUGHT, A GENERATION OF -- NEXT GENERATION THINKERS, STEPPING INTO KEY ROLES ACROSS ORGANIZATIONS IN THE POLITICAL ARENA. UNLIKE OTHER TRAINING PROGRAMS, TEACH FROM THE TOP DOWN, OUR APPROACH IS TO TEACH FROM THE BOTTOM UP. IN OTHER WORDS, FROM THE STREETS TO THE BOARDROOM. THIS GENERATION WILL CREATE ITS OWN REPARATIONS. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MICHAEL. LET'S TRY RICK HERNANDEZ ONE MORE TIME. RICK, TRY TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. OR ENTER YOUR AUDIO PIN. COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN, WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE FOR FOUR AND FIVE, IF WE COULD HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO HEAR FOUR, FIVE, THEN 41 FOLLOWED BY 66 AND THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE? OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. WE ARE MOVING TO ITEM NUMBER 4 FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD. >> SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK. COUNCIL, THERE ARE TWO APPLICANTS FOR THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD. MR. RANDY JACKSON AND JASON FALKENBURG. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, RANDY. VALKENBURG. TWO SPOTS, TWO APPLICANTS. >> GOOD MORNING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK OR AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS? >> I'VE BEEN SERVING ON THE BOARD SINCE 2018. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JASON VALKENBURG. I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD SINCE 2018. I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE SERVING ON THE BOARD. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING FORWARD FOR REAPPLICATION. I HEARD THAT YOU HAVE PRETTY MUCH TRANSFORMED THE BOARD SOMEWHAT. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. AND KNOWING THAT WE HAVE TWO EMPTY SEATS RIGHT NOW AS WELL, WHAT DO YOU THINK WE NEED -- WHAT KIND OF QUALIFICATIONS WOULD SOMEONE POSSESS THAT WOULD BE BEST FOR US TO FILL THESE TWO SPOTS? FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO MAKE IT PUBLIC THAT WE HAVE TWO MORE SPOTS ON THE NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD THAT CITY COUNCIL DOES CHOOSE. I JUST WANTED TO, AGAIN, HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WHAT YOU THINK SOME OF THE QUALIFICATIONS MIGHT BE, WHO WOULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR THIS BOARD. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE'VE DONE ANYTHING PERSONALLY TO TRANSFORM THE BOARD. MR. SMITH, HE'S DONE A LOT TO HELP TRANSFORM THE BOARD AND BIG THING THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS DONE AND HE'S DONE IS TO MAKE SURE THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF THE PUBLIC NUISANCE AND ABATEMENT BOARD AND HOW TO GET CASES IN FRONT OF US. WHEN I FIRST STARTED IN 2018, PROBABLY HAD ONE TO TWO CASES A YEAR. NOW I SEE OVER THE TIME ON THERE, MORE AND MORE CASES THAT ARE COMING ON. WE'RE THERE AND WANT IT, WE WANT TO ACTUALLY HELP THE COMMUNITY. WHAT HE'S BEEN DOING, THAT HAS BEEN A GREAT TRANSFORMATION AS FAR AS GETTING MORE CASES IN FRONT OF US. THE MORE THAT HE CAN CONTINUE DOING THAT AND THE MORE THAT THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT KNOWS ABOUT IT AND THE COMMUNITY KNOWS ABOUT IT, THE BETTER, BECAUSE WE'LL GET MORE CASES IN FRONT OF US AND WE'RE ABLE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY. AS FAR AS QUALIFICATIONS FOR PEOPLE BEING ON THE BOARD, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HELP OUT THE COMMUNITY. THE BIG THING IS COMMITMENT, BECAUSE I THINK MR. JACKSON WILL AGREE, SOMETIMES WE DO SOMETIMES HAVE DIFFICULTY. SOMETIMES GETTING A QUORUM. AND EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WE COME AND I THINK WE ONLY NEED FOUR MEMBERS FOR A QUORUM AND SOMETIMES HAVE DIFFICULTY HAVING FOUR MEMBERS COME. COMMITMENT IS THE BIG THING. I KNOW MR. JACKSON IS THERE PRETTY MUCH ALL THE TIME. I'M THERE ALL THE TIME. THERE ARE FOUR THAT CONTINUALLY SHOW UP. THE COMMITMENT IS THE BIG THING. WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE COMMITTED IN HELPING A COMMUNITY. IT'S ONCE A MONTH. IT'S ABOUT FOUR HOURS ONCE A MONTH AND VERY REWARDING. >> RANDY JACKSON HERE. ONLY THING I MIGHT ADD, JASON AS ALWAYS SPEAKS VERY WELL. IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, TPD AND THE GREAT RESIDENTS THAT WE SERVE COME TOGETHER ONCE A MONTH TO WORK OUT A RESOLUTION FOR WHAT IS PERCEIVED TO BE A NUISANCE. I HAVE BEEN A BOARD MEMBER SINCE 2016, SO COMING UP ON MY 10th YEAR. FOUR OF THE YEARS WAS AS CHAIRPERSON. THE BOARD IS DEFINITELY NEEDED. I THINK THE COUNCIL WILL AGREE TO THAT. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, MA'AM. GETTING PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMITTED, AS JASON JUST MENTIONED, SOMETIMES IS TOUGH. I OFTEN THINK THAT IF MORE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE BOARD WAS DOING FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE HERE, THERE WOULD BE MORE PARTICIPATION. THERE HASN'T BEEN IN A TIME IN THE PAST TEN YEARS THAT WE HAVE NOT RESOLVED AN ISSUE THAT EVERYONE AGREED WITH. BUT I CAN'T THANK TPD ENOUGH FOR TRUSTING IN US TO BRING US ISSUES THAT, AGAIN, THAT WE CAN COLLABORATE AND TO RESOLVE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I REALLY WAS HOPING, AGAIN, TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING, TO MAKE SURE YOU GOT A MOMENT IN THE PUBLIC TO SHARE. AGAIN, TO LET FOLKS KNOW SOME OF THESE -- SOME OF YOU WHO SHOW UP EVERY WEEK TO TALK AT PUBLIC COMMENT AND DO THINGS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE PERFECT FOR THIS BOARD. I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, YOU CAN LOOK UP THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND APPLY. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I KNOW I HAVE OTHERS, BUT I'M WILLING TO MOVE TO ACCEPT THESE TWO APPLICATIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A RESOLUTION. YOU CAN MOVE THE RESOLUTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU. UNTIL I WAS ELECTED I WAS ON THAT BOARD 2012 TO '15. IT WAS A WONDERFUL BOARD. I WAS AN ALTERNATE. THERE WERE ISSUES BACK THEN ABOUT GETTING A QUORUM. I BELIEVE I WAS CALLED EVERY TIME THERE WAS A MEETING. IT WASN'T EVERY MONTH BACK THEN, BUT I SURELY PARTICIPATED. AND IT WAS A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE BECAUSE IT GAVE -- IT GAVE ME A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE INTO THE COMMUNITY. MORE OF THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS WHEN IT CAME TO SPECIFICALLY CODE ENFORCEMENT. CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES AND WHATNOT. SO IF ANYBODY IS LISTENING, AS COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK SAID, THERE ARE A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY THAT WANT TO APPLY. YOU SAY IT'S FOUR HOURS A MONTH, SOMETIMES WE WOULD BE DONE IN AN HOUR. THREE HOURS. IT'S A VOLUNTEER POSITION, BUT IT GAVE ME A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND A TREMENDOUS NEW PERCEPTION INTO HOW CERTAIN OPERATIONS TOOK PLACE. I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO APPLY. IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR ME. I THANK BOTH OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE BECAUSE YOU DEDICATED A LOT OF TIME TO THIS. MR. SCHMIDT BACK THERE, HE WAS THERE WHEN I WAS THERE A. HE'S REALLY DONE A LOT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO SALUTE THE TWO FOLKS UP THERE. MR. JACKSON, ALMOST TEN YEARS, THAT'S AWESOME. AND JUST WONDERFUL PUBLIC SERVANT IN THAT REGARD. JASON, OBVIOUSLY, WE GO BACK A LONG TIME. WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE BOTH OF YOU ALL, BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT AS WELL MR. VALKENBURG'S WORK AS CIVIL AND CRIMINAL LITIGATOR THAT I THINK COMES SO INVALUABLE IN A POSITION LIKE THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT LAWYERS, I THINK ESPECIALLY LAWYERS MAYBE NEW TO THE COMMUNITY, WANT EXPERIENCE AND SO FORTH, IT WOULD BE AMENABLE TO THAT. I JUST WANT TO SALUTE THE BOTH OF YOU ALL, INCLUDING, AGAIN, JASON, HIS LITIGATION EXPERIENCE I THINK COMES IN UNIQUE IN A POSITION LIKE THIS. THANK YOU FOR THE BOTH OF YOU ALL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA ACCEPTING THE REAPPOINTMENT RESOLUTION REAPPOINTING BOTH RANDY JACKSON AND JASON VALKENBURG. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. CONGRATULATIONS. CONDOLENCES. I DON'T KNOW WHICH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL. HAPPY HOLIDAYS. >>LYNN HURTAK: HOPE TO GET YOU A COUPLE OF NEW FOLKS SOON. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE ANDREA ZELMAN, OUR CURRENT CITY ATTORNEY, FIRST. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN INTRODUCTION. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WOULD. GOOD MORNING. ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY ATTORNEY. UNTIL JANUARY 9. THIS IS NOT MY LAST MEETING. I'M VERY HAPPY TODAY TO BRING YOU THE RESOLUTION APPOINTING, WHICH HOPEFULLY YOU'LL PASS, SCOTT STEADY AS THE NEW CITY ATTORNEY WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE IN JANUARY. I'VE ALREADY TOLD ALL OF YOU, BUT JUST BRIEFLY WILL TELL THE PUBLIC, I REALLY THINK HE'S SUCH A GREAT CHOICE FOR THIS POSITION. HE HAS YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN AREAS RELATING TO CITY WORK, INCLUDING SOME ACTUAL CITY WORK. HE STARTED HIS CAREER INTERNING HERE AT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND HE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO FINISHING HIS CAREER AT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. HE'S JUST -- HIS LAST NAME IS PERFECT. HE HAS A STEADY DEMEANOR. HE'S SMART. HE'S CALM. HE'S NOT A FIREBRAND. I JUST THINK HE'LL DO AN EXCELLENT JOB FOR THE CITY AND HE'S GOT HIS FAMILY HERE TODAY. I'LL LET HIM INTRODUCE THEM. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'M HAPPY TO INTRODUCE SCOTT STEADY AS MY POTENTIAL REPLACEMENT. NOW, AS I GET READY TO RETIRE. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. STEADY, GIVE ME ONE SECOND. MS. ZELMAN, STAY THERE FOR A SECOND. I KIND OF ASKED YOU TO COME UP TO INTRODUCE, CHAIR POINT OF PRIVILEGE, I THINK THIS WILL BE YOUR LAST MEETING. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: NO, NO. JANUARY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO SAY WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR A LONG TIME. I'VE BEEN HERE A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS AND I'VE REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I DON'T WANT TO STEAL FROM SCOTT'S THUNDER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE THE LAST ONE. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. >> CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, SCOTT STEADY. HOME ADDRESS 3006 SCHILLER. THAT WAS A NICE INTRO. I APPRECIATE THAT. SHE COMMENTED ABOUT MY FAMILY, IF I COULD INTRODUCE THEM BRIEFLY. MY WIFE IS PLAYING HOOKY FROM WEST TAMPA ELEMENTARY. SHE IS A SPEECH PATHOLOGIST. MY DAUGHTER, MONICA AND MY SON ALEX, THEY ARE BOTH HERE. I TALKED BRIEFLY WITH THE CHAIR. I'LL BE BRIEF. YOU HAVE A LONG AGENDA. I HAVE SPOKEN TO ALL OF YOU. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH MY BACKGROUND AND HISTORY. I DID START WITH THE CITY ATTORNEYS WAY BACK IN 1985. MARY BRYANT WAS THERE BUSTING MY CHOPS ACTUALLY. THERE IS A STORY ABOUT A TRICK SHE PLAYED ON ME WHICH I HAVE NEVER FORGOTTEN, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SHARE IT WITH YOU TODAY. ANYWAY, I STARTED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. JOE SPICOLA WAS THE CITY ATTORNEY, GOVERNOR MARTINEZ WAS THE MAYOR. IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE. I'VE HAD OTHER INVOLVEMENT WITH THE CITY, BOTH REPRESENTING DEVELOPERS BUT ALSO REPRESENTING THE CITY. AND JUST KIND OF BRING IT FORWARD, I'M CURRENTLY THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD COUNSEL. I'M ACTUALLY, UNTIL YOU HIRE ME, I AM STILL THEIR COUNSEL. I SHOOK THEIR HAND BECAUSE I REPRESENT THAT BOARD. ACTUALLY, OF ALL THE CORPORATE WORK I DO, I'VE REALLY LEARNED A LOT ON THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD BECAUSE IT OPENED MY EYES TO ISSUES OF HOMELESSNESS AND THINGS THAT I THINK I NEED TO KNOW AS THE CITY ATTORNEY, WHICH I'M NOT USUALLY EXPOSED TO. BY THE WAY, THOSE GUYS DO A GREAT JOB AND THE STAFF DOES A GREAT JOB. WITH THAT, I APPRECIATE ANDREA ZELMAN, CATE WELLS AND MORRIS MASSEY. I THINK THEIR CONFIDENCE IN ME IS THE REASON I'M HERE. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I THANK THE MAYOR FOR NOMINATING ME, AND THAT'S JUST WONDERFUL. MOSTLY, I'M HONORED AND I TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY TO BE REPRESENTING THE RESIDENTS, THE CORPORATE, THE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION, THE CITY OF TAMPA, THIS COUNCIL, THE MAYOR, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH A GREAT STAFF AND ATTORNEYS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: I'M GOING TO BE PROUD TO SUPPORT YOU, SIR. AS AN ATTORNEY, MEMBER OF THE FLORIDA BAR FOR 22 YEARS -- TIME GOES BY FAST -- YOUR NAME IS OPEN AND OBVIOUS FOR BEING A PILLAR OF THE COMMUNITY, PILLAR OF THE BAR, PILLAR OF THE LEGAL PRACTICE. WITH YOU AND NOT JUST YOUR PUBLIC SECTOR EXPERIENCE BUT PRIVATE SECTOR EXPERIENCE, COME FROM A LONG LINE OF ATTORNEYS WHO GO FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO THE PUBLIC SECTOR FOR PUBLIC SERVICE. SOME HAVE A MIXTURE. MRS. ZELMAN IS OBVIOUSLY A PRIME EXAMPLE OF THAT. GINA GRIMES, HILL WARD HENDERSON, MY DEAR FRIEND, CHIP FLETCHER AND MANY OTHERS. I KNOW YOU'LL DO AN AMAZING JOB. AGAIN, JUST, YOU ARE GOING FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO SERVE THE PUBLIC IN THIS ROLE IS SOMETHING THAT IS STELLAR. LIKE I TOLD FOLKS WHO DISCLOSED YOUR NAME TO ME, I SAID WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE YOU. AGAIN, JUST MY PROFESSIONAL AND CIVIC HONOR TO SUPPORT YOU. I'VE ALWAYS GOTTEN ALONG WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEYS AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEYS. YOU'RE GOING TO I THINK HAVE A GOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE TO WORK WITH. A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE WONDERFUL PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO WORK REALLY HARD. I KNOW YOU'LL DO A GREAT JOB. LOOKING FORWARD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. AND THANK YOU TO YOUR FAMILY FOR THEIR SUPPORT AND ALLOWING YOU TO DO THIS. I TALK TO MY WIFE, YOU TALK TO YOUR WIFE AND FAMILY IS ABOVE ALL THINGS, OTHER THAN GOD, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, IN MY OPINION. WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION THE OTHER DAY. I REALLY ENJOYED IT. WE HAD QUITE A FEW THINGS IN COMMON. MY WIFE IS FROM WEST VIRGINIA. YOUR WIFE HAS A CONNECTION. CUBA. WELL CONNECTED. I THINK YOUR REPUTATION SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. I ALWAYS HEARD OF YOU. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING POSITIVE. I KNOW THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE WITH THE CITY. WHAT I LIKE IS YOUR FOUNDATION. 1985 YOU GOT HIRED ON WITH THE CITY. YOU KNOW THE CITY, LIVE IN THE CITY, THERE'S NO ISSUE. YOU BASICALLY GREW UP HERE ESSENTIALLY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DECADES OF SERVICE. VERY IMPORTANT THING IS THE TEAM THAT YOU GET TO WORK WITH, MORRIS MASSEY, CATE WELLS, SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ. I THINK REBECCA JOHNS. ALL THE ATTORNEYS THAT WE HAVE. I DON'T THINK THERE IS A BETTER TEAM AND BETTER GROUP OF PEOPLE. YOU GET TO LEAD AND WORK WITH AND COLLABORATE WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE SECOND TO NONE. I'M VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT YOU. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IN LOOKING AT YOU, YOUR BACKGROUND AND REPUTATION, YOU HAVE NO DOG IN THE FIGHT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS. YOU WERE ASKED TO DO THIS. IT'S A MATTER OF YOU LOVE TAMPA. YOU CARE AND ITS SERVICE. YOU'VE HAD A VERY LONG, ILLUSTRIOUS CAREER. I THINK YOU'LL DO A GREAT JOB AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION WE HAD, TOO. I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING YOU IN THIS EFFORT AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. I WANT TO THANK MS. ZELMAN FOR FINDING YOU SO QUICKLY. WE'LL TALK MORE MAYBE AT THE NEXT MEETING. SHE AND CLAY DESERVE ALL THE BEST IN WHATEVER FUN THINGS THEY ARE GOING TO DO NEXT. A SIGN OF HER DEDICATION TO THE CITY IS SHE MADE SURE SHE FOUND YOU RIGHT AWAY TO SERVE THIS, AND YOU SEEM TO HAVE THE PERFECT BACKGROUND. ALSO, MS. ZELMAN BROUGHT A STEADINESS TO THE POSITION. THE PUBLIC SEES WHAT HAPPENS HERE IN THE DAIS AND IN PUBLIC. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT MS. ZELMAN AND I WORKED ON BEHIND THE SCENES THAT BROUGHT PEACE TO THE COMMUNITY, BROUGHT COLLABORATION TO THE COMMUNITY AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF. SHE'LL NEVER GET PUBLIC CREDIT FOR ANY OF THAT. THANK YOU TO HER FOR WORKING ON THAT. I THINK YOU ECHOED THAT YOU HAVE THE SAME PERSONALITY AND STYLE IN DOING THAT. MY -- INFAMOUSLY, I ASKED MS. ZELMAN TO READ PART OF THE CHARTER THE LAST TIME WHEN SHE WAS CONFIRMED. I WON'T DO THAT TODAY. WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION OFF-LINE. BUT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT. THIS CHARTER DOESN'T SAY STRONG MAYOR ANYWHERE IN IT. BUT I THINK THE POWER IN THE CITY IS REALLY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AS WE START THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT CAREFULLY. I THINK THERE'S SOME BUILT-IN CONFLICTS IN THE CHARTER IN THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR, BOTH CLIENTS OF THE CITY ATTORNEY. I THINK PRIOR CITY ATTORNEYS HAVE WRESTLED WITH THAT. AFTER WE CONFIRM YOU, IN EFFECT YOU REPORT TO THE MAYOR. BUT BY BAR RULES, YOU ALSO REPORT TO US. I THINK YOU WILL UPHOLD -- MY ASK TO YOU IS TO UPHOLD THE LAW, UPHOLD THE CHARTER AND UPHOLD THE BAR RULES, AND YOU HAVE COMMITTED TO DOING THAT. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR SAYING YES TO THE MAYOR. YOU ARE HERE BEFORE US NOW. I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR SOME TIME. I THINK YOUR LAST NAME SAYS IT ALL. WE NEED A STEADY GUY IN A STEADY POSITION AS CITY ATTORNEY. IN THE PAST THEY HAVE ALL BEEN GOOD, IN YOUR CASE, I KNOW YOU HAVE THE SAME RESUMÉ THAT YOU STARTED WITH IN 1985. ALWAYS BEEN STRAIGHT, DOWN THE LINE. YOU SAY IT THE WAY THE LAW FOLLOWS, NOT WHAT YOU FEEL, BUT WHAT THE LAW IS, AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN DOING THAT. INSTEADY IS STEADY BEING A CITY ATTORNEY, WITH STEADY. >> MY DAD WOULD APPRECIATE IT, BY THE WAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR OUR CONVERSATION. I REALLY ENJOYED GETTING TO KNOW YOUR BACKGROUND. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PAS PASSIONN COMMONS. MAINLY LAND USE AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE, HOPEFULLY MS. ZELMAN WILL COME BACK ON JANUARY 8, BUT -- BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAD A CHANCE TO TELL HER HOW MUCH I'VE ENJOYED WORKING WITH HER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I LOOK FORWARD TO SAYING THAT ON JANUARY 8. GLAD TO SUPPORT YOU. >> THANKS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WILL BE A SHOO-IN. YOU'LL TAKE OVER A LEGAL DEPARTMENT HIGHLY FUNCTIONAL AND IN GOOD SHAPE. YOUR PREDECESSOR WILL HAVE LEFT YOU IN A REALLY GOOD POSITION FOR SUCCESSFUL. SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, AND I'VE KNOWN SEVERAL OF THE CITY ATTORNEYS IN THE PAST, I DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY VERY GOVERNMENT, THANKFULLY IN MY LIFE TO ASSOCIATE WITH ATTORNEYS, BUT SINCE I'VE GOTTEN ELECTED I FIND A SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH THEM NOW. MOST OF MY DAYS SEEM TO BE CONSULTING WITH ATTORNEYS WHICH IS, I DON'T KNOW, INTERESTING. >> MY FINAL COMMENT IS NO PRESSURE. NO PRESSURE. I APPRECIATE IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE APPOINTMENT OF SCOTT STEADY AS THE CITY ATTORNEY AND DEPARTMENT HEAD OF THE CITY OF TAMPA LEGAL DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. CONGRATULATIONS. [ APPLAUSE ] YOU CAN GO AWAY NOW. [ LAUGHTER ] >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS OFF BEFORE IT -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. AS PER OUR DISCUSSION ON CHANGING THE AGENDA. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 41 AND RECOGNIZE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: MS. SCHARF. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'LL PAUSE FOR A SECOND TO LET THE ROOM -- ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS. I SAID ALL. >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M SORRY. 10 AND 10:30. I'LL AMEND. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE ARE OPENING THE 10 AND 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE ARE OPENING THE 10 AND 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS. >>LUIS VIERA: ARE WE ALSO NOMINATING OUR MEMBERS -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'LL DO 41 AND 66 FOR YOU. 41, 66 AND THEN CAC. >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS ORDINANCE, I WORKED WITH CITY LEGAL STAFF FOR QUITE SOME TIME WITH THIS ORDINANCE. WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT. MS. SCHARF AND I RODE OUR BIKES TO WORK ON TUESDAY JUST TO RIDE THE RIVERWALK. SO THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND. RIGHT NOW, THE RULE ON THE RIVERWALK IS FOR CYCLISTS TO GO FIVE MILES AN HOUR. SO WITH THIS LAW, WE WOULD BE INCREASING IT TO TEN MILES AN HOUR. BUT WHAT I FOUND IS WHEN WE ACTUALLY RODE IT, I TOOK ONE OF THE SPEEDOMETERS AND KELLY AND I WHO ARE NOT LIKE TOUR DE FRANCE TYPE FOLKS, WE HAD COMPUTERS, WE HAD EVERYTHING WITH US, CLOTHES TO CHANGE INTO. WE AVERAGED 6.5 MILES AN HOUR ON THE RIVERWALK JUST GOING AT A LEISURELY PACE. >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ARE ADMITTING A MISDEMEANOR. >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM ADMITTING A MISDEMEANOR. BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF LEADING WITH THIS BEGINNING DEBATE IS I DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS FULLY SET. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY HERE THAT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS. AFTER WE TALK ABOUT IT, I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO SOMETHING -- TO A WORKSHOP TO REALLY DISCUSS WHAT THE COMMUNITY, WHAT WE NEED TO DO. THE RIVERWALK, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, WE ARE A VICTIM OF OUR OWN SUCCESS, AND THERE IS A BIGGER CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD ABOUT THIS. I GREATLY APPRECIATE BOTH TPD AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD BECAUSE OTHERWISE THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN SIMPLY IGNORED AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT ANYONE WANTS. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY FOR OUR BIKES, OUR PEDESTRIANS, OUR SCOOTER RIDERS, OUR SKATEBOARDERS AND EVERYONE ELSE, FOLKS WITH ABILITY ISSUES TO COEXIST IN THE SAME SPACE WHILE KNOWING SINCE THIS RIVERWALK WAS PAID FOR WITH FEDERAL FUNDS, IT IS A MULTIUSE PATH THAT WE CANNOT TAKE BIKES OFF OF THE RIVERWALK LEGALLY. SO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT NEXT STEP IS. THAT IS WHAT I HOPE THAT THIS CONVERSATION CAN TURN INTO INSTEAD OF APPROVING THIS ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN TODAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SEE A LOT OF LIGHTS. I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO WORKSHOP THIS. LET'S GO TO STAFF AND THEN QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL. >>CARL BRODY: CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. WE'RE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT SECOND READING ON THE BICYCLE SAFETY ORDINANCE. I'LL NUTSHELL THE FIRST PART. THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORTH TO ADDRESS THREE ISSUES THAT WE WERE CONCERNED WITH. FIRST, WANTED ELECTRONIC BIKES AND OTHER ELECTRONIC VEHICLES TO BE INCLUDED SO THAT THEY WOULD BE PART OF THE ORDINANCE SUBJECT TO THE REGULATION. SECOND, WHEN YOU HAVE LARGE GROUPS OF CYCLISTS OR OTHER VEHICLE OPERATORS ON THE RIVERWALK THAT THEY WOULD RESPECT THE REST OF THE PARTICIPANTS ON THE RIVERWALK BY RIDING TWO ABREAST, SAFETY ISSUES. THIRD, WE WANTED TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM WITH FOLKS OUT THERE DOING TRICKS AND WHEELIES AND OTHER THINGS WHICH ARE CREATING DANGEROUS CONDITIONS, COLLIDING WITH WALKERS, CYCLISTS, ANYBODY ELSE ON THE RIVERWALK, BY PUTTING IN PROVISIONS THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THAT KIND OF ACTIVITY. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO GIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT THE TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. I THINK LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR BEING ABLE TO DO AN ORDINANCE LIKE THIS. YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT YOU HAVE AN IMPORTANT GOVERNMENT INTEREST. WE HAVE THAT IMPORTANT GOVERNMENT INTEREST. WE KNOW YOU KNOW THERE ARE PROBLEMS OUT ON THE RIVERWALK. RECEIVED THE COMPLAINTS. TAMPA CONNECT HAS RECEIVED THE COMPLAINTS, AND TPD HAS OBSERVED THESE DANGEROUS CONDITIONS OUT ON THE RIVERWALK. WE KNOW THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT ADDRESSES OUR IMPORTANT GOVERNMENT INTEREST. WE PUT TOGETHER AN ORDINANCE ALONG WITH DISCUSSION WITH I THINK EACH ONE OF YOU WHEN WE WERE DRAFTING IT THAT WOULD SPECIFICALLY HAVE A CONNECTION. SO WE'RE CONNECTING THE PROBLEM WITH THE SOLUTION. THE ORDINANCE IS A SOLUTION. IF I CAN QUICKLY ADDRESS THE LETTER THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM I THINK BIKE WALK TAMPA -- WALK BIKE TAMPA. WALK BIKE TAMPA. I WANT TO ADDRESS IT BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME INACCURACIES IN THERE, AND THERE'S SOME HONESTLY FLAWED LEGAL ANALYSIS. I WANT TO WALK THROUGH THAT WITH YOU REALLY QUICKLY. FIRST UP, A CONCERN ABOUT THE TEN MILES PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT AND A REFERENCE THAT IT'S AN EQUIPMENT STANDARD. THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THE LAW THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW EXCEPT WE'RE MOVING FROM 15 DOWN TO 10 AND THAT WAS AT THE SUGGESTION OF DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME OF YOU GUYS. THERE IS NO INTERPRETATION THAT WOULD SUGGEST THAT THIS ORDINANCE OR THE SPEED LIMIT IS INSTEAD AN EQUIPMENT STANDARD. EQUIPMENT STANDARD SUGGESTS THAT MEANS THAT ANY VEHICLE THAT WOULD GO OVER THAT SPEED LIMIT WOULD BE PROHIBITED FROM THE RIVERWALK OR ANY OF OUR MULTIMODAL TRAILS. CLEARLY, THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S BEEN INTERPRETED SINCE 2009, AND THAT'S NOT HOW IT WILL BE. IT WOULD BE A RIDICULOUS OUTCOME FOR A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TO GO OUT AND CITE SOMEBODY FOR RIDING A BICYCLE ON A RIVERWALK OR ANY OF OUR OTHER MULTIMODAL TRAILS. SO THAT'S NOT THE INTERPRETATION. NOT AN ACCURATE LEGAL INTERPRETATION OF HOW THIS WOULD APPLY. IT'S REALLY MORE OF A RED HERRING TO THROW YOU OFF OF WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS ORDINANCE IS. NEXT WE TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TRAILS. WE WANT ALL THE TRAILS TO BE PROTECTED. IT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. ALL THE TRAILS SHOULD BE PROTECTED. PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. NOTHING IN THIS ORDINANCE WOULD END UP RESULTING IN US LOSING ANY FEDERAL FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE RIVERWALK. WHY? BECAUSE THERE'S NO CHANGE IN WHAT THE PURPOSE IS. ALL WE'RE DOING IS REGULATING THAT PURPOSE. NOTHING IN THE FEDERAL GRANTS RECEIVED ON THIS PROHIBITS OR EVEN ADDRESSES OUR REGULATION OF THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH WE RECEIVE THE FUNDS. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE STILL GOING TO ALLOW BIKES ON THE RIVERWALK AND ANY OTHER MULTIMODAL VEHICLES AND PEDESTRIANS ON THE RIVERWALK. THAT'S JUST ANOTHER ISSUE THAT'S NOT ACCURATE IN TERMS OF THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU RECEIVED. THE PROBLEM WITH WHEELIES, I THINK THIS IS -- I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT IS ANOTHER INACCURATE STATEMENT. IT SUGGESTS THAT PROHIBITING WHEELIES AND OTHER TRICKS ON THE RIVERWALK IS GOING TO DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECT YOUTH OF COLOR. WE HAVE TPD HERE. THEY'LL WALK YOU THROUGH, THAT IS NOT AN ACCURATE STATEMENT. I'LL JUST STOP THERE. UNREALISTIC BRAKING REQUIREMENTS. BRAKING REQUIREMENTS WE HAD 25 FEET AT 10 MILES PER HOUR. NOTE THE 10 MILES PER HOUR AGAIN BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE SAFETY OF THE ORDINANCE, THAT IS IDENTICAL TO WHAT THE STATE LAW REQUIRES. THAT IS NOTHING THAT IS DISTINCT. IT'S REALLY ALREADY IN PLACE. IT'S JUST THAT WE WANTED TO MOVE THOSE STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS ONTO THE RIVERWALK TO BE CONSISTENT. AGAIN, FOR THE SAFETY OF EVERYBODY WHO IS USING THE RIVERWALK. EDUCATIONAL POLICY, I HAVE ALREADY TALKED WITH AND I THINK I PROVIDED SOME OF YOU THE INFORMATION. MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS TEAM IS READY TO GO. THEY HAVE THEIR WHOLE TEAM READY TO GO AND HAVE PLANS TO HAVE TPD OFFICERS WHO ARE ENFORCING THIS TO HAVE INTERVIEWS WITH LOCAL NEWS MEDIA. THEY ARE GOING TO DO A FULL SOCIAL MEDIA BLITZ. THEY ARE GOING TO CONTACT ALL THE SCHOOLS. MAKE SURE FLYERS ARE OUT SO THAT EVERYBODY WILL BE NOTICED OF IT. I'LL PROBABLY CALL MS. JANELLE TO GIVE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF THE CHANGES. WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE ABOUT THAT IS, WE DID SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS ALMOST UNHERALDED. WE SAID THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ENFORCE THIS ORDINANCE FOR 90 DAYS. THAT'S 90 DAYS OF JUST PURE EDUCATION. JUST PURE COMMUNICATIONS AND EVERYBODY ELSE GETTING OUT THERE, INFORM THE PUBLIC AND THE YOUTH OF WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE. THAT'S THE FIRST 90 DAYS, THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT. AFTER THAT, THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN CHANGED. THIS IS OUR NORMAL PRACTICE AND PATTERNS IN TERMS OF PENALTIES. WE'VE CHANGED THAT JUST FOR THIS ORDINANCE. THE FIRST VIOLATION IS A WARNING. ANYBODY WHO IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE EDUCATION ON THIS SHOULD TAKE HEED THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO MORE THAN SUFFICIENT NOTIFICATION TO MAKE ANYBODY IN THE CITY AWARE OF WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE. EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT, THE FIRST TIME THEY GET CITED AFTER 90 DAYS, THEY STILL WILL ONLY RECEIVE A WARNING. THERE WILL BE NO CITATION. FINALLY, DANGERS AND UNCLEAR POTENTIAL OF ENFORCEMENT, THIS ONE KIND OF ANNOYS ME JUST BECAUSE IT TELLS YOU DON'T TRUST LAW ENFORCEMENT. NOW, ONCE A MONTH, WHAT DO WE DO? WE HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT COME FORWARD AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE INTEGRITY AND THAT THEY ENFORCE THE LAWS AS THEY ARE WRITTEN AND FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF WANTING TO KEEP US SAFE AND WANTING TO USE THE LAW NOT AS A CUDGEL, BUT AS SOMETHING TO HELP BENEFIT ALL OF US SO THAT WE LIVE IN SOCIETY AND IN THIS SITUATION HAVE ACCESS TO AND USE OF FACILITIES WITHOUT WORRY AND WITHOUT HAVING TO DEAL WITH THESE DANGEROUS CONDITIONS. WE HAVE TO AT SOME POINT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT, THEIR PURPOSE IS TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED WITH. THAT YOU RECEIVE CONSTITUENT RESPONSES FROM TO ADDRESS. THEY DO THAT IN A MANNER, LIKE I SAID, INTOICT, CONSISTENT AND NOT FOR ANY PURPOSE OTHER THAN ACHIEVING YOUR GOALS. THAT ALL BEING SAID, I THINK WHAT WE PUT TOGETHER IS AN ORDINANCE VERY LIMITED. IT FOCUSES STRICTLY ON THE TRAILS. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE USED OUT ON THE STREETS. IT HAS VERY CLEAR DESIGNATIONS FOR WHAT'S ALLOWED AND WHAT'S PROHIBITED. AND IT ADDRESSES CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED, THAT TPD HAS RESERVED AND HAVE BEEN LEVIED AND INFORMED TO THE CITY THROUGH TAMPA CONNECT OVER THE LAST EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. WE'VE HAD THE ISSUE HERE IN PLACE FOR AT LEAST A COUPLE OF YEARS. NOT ADDRESSING IT IS ALLOWING A DANGEROUS CONDITION IT CONTINUE TO BE IN PLACE. WHAT WE RECEIVED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY ACCURATE. 10 MILES PER HOUR IS GOING TO ALLOW FOLKS TO USE THE RIVERWALK FOR THE PURPOSE IT'S INTENDED. BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY JUST STOPPING EXCESSES. WE WOULD JUST REQUEST THAT YOU HAVE THE DISCUSSION AND APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT DOES ADDRESS THE CONCERNS YOU'VE RAISED WITHOUT CREATING ANY OF THE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED BY SOME OF THE OUTSIDE AGENCIES. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS OF STAFF? JUST QUESTIONS, NOT PONTIFICATION. COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WAS SUGGESTED -- SUGGESTED ABOUT MOVING THIS TO A WORKSHOP. I DON'T KNOW WHEN. BUT IF IT DOES GO TO A WORKSHOP AND THIS IS NOT READ AND APPROVED TODAY, BUT YOU TALKED ABOUT A ROBUST EDUCATION CAMPAIGN FOR THE NEXT 90 DAYS, EVEN WITHOUT AN ORDINANCE, CAN'T WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT AND GO OUT TO THE SCHOOLS AND PERHAPS JUST BY TALKING AND COMMUNICATING WE CAN IMPROVE THE SITUATION WITHOUT GOING STRAIGHT TO THE ORDINANCE? SINCE YOU SAY IT IS UNHEARD OF AND ROBUST, THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM IS READY TO GO. >>CARL BRODY: THE PROBLEM WITH TAKING THAT ROUTE IS THAT FIRST VOTE, IT KIND OF KICKS THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. THE FOLKS WHO WERE CONCERNED, WHO WERE COMMITTING SOME OF THE VIOLATIONS, THEY ARE AWARE THAT THEIR ACTIONS ARE CREATING DANGEROUS CONDITION. IF WE DO AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN, WE KIND OF NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE EDUCATING THEM ON. IF WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE, THEN WE'RE REALLY KIND OF BEING PROSPECTIVE IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EXACTLY THE EDUCATION PIECE WOULD BE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THE SPECIFIC COMPLAINTS THAT I RECEIVED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS ARE STRICTLY ON THE RIVERWALK AND ONLY ON THE RIVERWALK, NEAR THE CONVENTION CENTER, CURTIS HIXON. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN WE READ IT THE OTHER DAY, SOMEBODY TOLD ME THAT THE NEXT NIGHT WHICH I BELIEVE IS WHEN THE WHOLE CURTIS HIXON WINTER SETUP, WHERE THE ICE SKATING RINK IS AT, A FRIEND OF MINE AND HIS GIRLFRIEND WERE DOWN THERE AND HE SAID A GROUP OF KIDS ON BIKES WERE POPPING WHEELIES, LIKE THEY INTENTIONALLY WANTED TO HIT PEOPLE. WE GO FROM READING THIS ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT, I WASN'T THERE, HE'S TELLING ME THIS. I ASKED HIM WHAT TIME. AROUND 7:00, I THINK, IF I RECALL. SO THEY ARE OUT THERE. THE COMPLAINTS THAT I'VE BEEN GETTING, GETTING BACK TO THE POINT, ARE STRICTLY ON THE RIVERWALK. NOT ON OTHER TRAILS AND WHATNOT. NOT STREETS, NEIGHBORHOODS, SIDEWALKS, ANYTHING ELSE. I'M ON THE RIVERWALK ALL THE TIME AND THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE THERE ON BIKES AND THEN WE HAVE SECURITY, INDIVIDUALS IN THE GOLF CARTS AND THEN PARKS AND REC, THEY ARE DOING THEIR OWN THING CLEANING, BUT THE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT ON THE RIVERWALK, IF A POLICE OFFICER IS ON A BIKE AND THEY SEE A GROUP OF YOUNG PEOPLE, A GROUP OF KIDS POPPING WHEELIES, CAN'T WE SAY IN THE MEANTIME, HEY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS SAFE, NOT CITING THEM. BUT JUST TALKING. I THINK A LOT IS LOST IN THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION, AND IF IN THESE NEXT 90 DAYS WE SAY, HEY, SLOW DOWN, HEY, THERE ARE KIDS. WE WANT YOU TO BE SAFE. WE WANT FAMILIES TO BE SAFE. INDIVIDUALS TO BE SAFE WALKING. CAN WE START WITH THAT? IT'S NOT KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. I THINK YOU DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE A LAW AND ENFORCEMENT. I THINK A LOT CAN BE SETTLED IN COMMUNICATION AND JUST TALKING. OTHER THAN MY FRIEND AND HIS GIRLFRIEND YELLING AT THESE KIDS GOING, HEY, GET OUT OF HERE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? YOU'RE GOING TO HURT SOMEBODY. IF A POLICE OFFICER OR SECURITY INDIVIDUAL SAYS WE PATROL THE RIVERWALK. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS SAFE. AND DO THAT. AND TALK AND SAY, HEY, PEOPLE ARE LOOKING. PEOPLE ARE NOTICING. THIS IS A PROBLEM. WE HAVE LAWS AND PEOPLE BREAK THEM ALL THE TIME. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, BECAUSE IT'S YOUNG KIDS. IT'S TEENAGERS. WE WERE ALL TEENAGERS ONCE, WHATEVER. BUT JUST TALKING AND WARNING AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS UNSAFE, PERHAPS THAT CAN HELP IMPROVE THE SITUATION BEFORE GOING RIGHT INTO THE ORDINANCE. >>CARL BRODY: I THINK THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING THE 90 DAYS. BY PROVIDING 90 DAYS, YOU HAVE THAT EDUCATION BUT YOU HAVE SOMETHING AT THE END OF IT. IF YOU JUST -- IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE AT THE END, THAT MEANS THAT, YES, LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN GO OUT AND INFORM OF WHAT WE THINK THE ORDINANCE IS GOING TO BE, WHAT WE THINK IS GOING TO BE PROHIBITED, AND THEN AT THE END OF WHATEVER THAT TIME PERIOD IS, END UP DOING A WORKSHOP AND FIGURING OUT FROM THERE, SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, WHAT THE COULD THEOUTCOME IS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH, APRIL, MAY, WE WENT OUT THERE, WE COMMUNICATED, NOTHING IS CHANGING. THEN WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION AT THE WORKSHOP. WHAT'S INTERESTING IS AT FIRST, YOU KNOW, WE MOVED THIS FORWARD AND I'M BASING IT OFF OF, I'VE BEEN GETTING YEARS OF COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE ON THE RIVERWALK. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, SOME ARE HERE. IT'S A CROSS-SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY. WALK BIKE TAMPA, THEY HAD THEIR CONCERNS, AND I KNOW YOU HAD PICKED OUT CERTAIN ITEMS, MAY HAVE BEEN INACCURACIES BUT YOU CLARIFIED THAT. WALK BIKE TAMPA. MR. PETE EDWARDS IS HERE. NAACP IS HERE. NOW WE'RE GETTING THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE, NOT PEOPLE COMPLAINING OF FOLKS ON THE RIVERWALK AND POPPING WHEELIES AND WE'LL GET HIT. NOW PEOPLE WITH CONCERNS MOVING FORWARD. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO BALANCE WHERE WE TRY AND IMPROVE THE SITUATION AND TRY TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF FOLKS WHO HAVE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS AND THOUGHTS MOVING FORWARD. >>CARL BRODY: CORPORAL FLANAGAN IS HERE. IF HE CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE EDUCATION PIECE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOLD ON. I THINK WE'RE FINISHED WITH THIS PART OF IT. THIS IS WHAT I'VE GOT DOWN. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. COUNCILMAN VIERA. COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON WISH TO SPEAK. I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THE CLOCK. WE HAVE A HARD STOP -- WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS WE HAVE TO GET TO BEFORE 11:55. FYI IN REFERENCE TO OUR PONTIFICATION. QUESTIONS ONLY OF STAFF AND THE TIMER IS ON. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS LISTENING TO YOU VERY INTENSELY. THE RIVERWALK WAS DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE WALKING. EVERYTHING CHANGES. IT'S NOT ONLY FOR US LOCALLY WHO ENJOY IT, BUT FOR THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND THERE'S NOTHING ALMOST LIKE ANYWHERE ELSE. THERE'S RIVERWALK IN CHICAGO AND DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: QUESTIONS ONLY. WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK AFTER THE PRESENTATION IS DONE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OH, QUESTIONS ONLY. I'LL RECUSE MYSELF. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA FOLLOWED BY COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG. >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG. >>NAYA YOUNG: HELLO. HOW ARE YOU? I HAVE A QUESTION. COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID COULD WE DO THE EDUCATION COMPONENT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW? AND THEN I THINK YOUR RESPONSE WAS WE WOULD NEED SOMETHING TO BE EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >>NAYA YOUNG: WOULD THE SIGNS THAT WERE SHOWN EARLIER THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TOOK A PICTURE OF, WOULD THAT NOT BE INFORMATION THAT WE COULD BE EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON ALREADY IF THE SIGNS ARE ALREADY THERE? >>CARL BRODY: THE SIGNS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. LIKE I SAY, WE HAVE CORPORAL FLANAGAN HERE. HE CAN TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE ENFORCEMENT AND HOW THAT IMPACTS WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING, WHICH IS THERE'S ALREADY SUFFICIENT SUPPORT IN PLACE FOR ENFORCEMENT OF CONCERNS THAT ARE OUT THERE ON THE RIVERWALK. >> CORPORAL FLANAGAN, TAMPA POLICE. WE'VE BEEN WARNING AND COMMUNICATING WITH PEOPLE FOR YEARS ON THIS ISSUE, AND THAT IS OUR GOAL IS TO EDUCATE. WHAT WE EXPERIENCE AFTER THAT, THOUGH, IS THAT THE PROBLEM CONTINUES WITH A FEW, AND WE HAVE NO REASONABLE MEANS TO ENFORCE THE ACTUAL PROBLEM AT THAT POINT. THE COMPLAINTS HAVE JUST BEEN NONSTOP ON THE REAL PROBLEM, PEOPLE WITHIN THE GROUPS THAT DO THIS, BUT WE HAVE NO MEANS TO ACTUALLY ENFORCE IT AND THAT'S WHERE OUR HANDS ARE TIED. SO WE HAVE THE CITIZENS COMING UP TO US ON THE RIVERWALK, BUSINESS OWNERS, TOURISTS THAT ARE MAKING THESE COMPLAINTS, BUT WE HAVE NO MEANS TO ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. WHEN WE SPEAK TO THE GROUPS, WHICH WE HAVE DONE FOR A LONG TIME, WE STILL HAVE A FEW THAT KNOW WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND THE PROBLEM CONTINUES. THAT'S WHERE OUR HANDS ARE KIND OF TIED. AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO DO, SHOULD WE HAVE TO ENFORCE IT WITH SOMEONE, SURE, WE NEED SOMETHING FOR THAT, WE DO. THE LARGE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO EDUCATE AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THESE RULES ARE IN PLACE AND SOMETHING COULD BE DONE. THAT'S NOT OUR GOAL. WE WANT EVERYBODY TO ENJOY THE RIVERWALK SAFELY TOGETHER. BUT JUST LIKE EVERY DAY OUT HERE ON THE STREETS, SOME PEOPLE CHOOSE NOT TO FOLLOW THE LAW BUT SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN TO THEM AT THAT POINT. OUT THERE, NOTHING CAN HAPPEN RIGHT NOW. >>NAYA YOUNG: THIS IS JUST -- I DO NOT DOUBT THAT YOU ALL DO RECEIVE COMPLAINTS. BUT DO WE HAVE ANY LIKE DATA OR NUMBERS TO SAY SINCE WE'VE HAD RIVERWALK OR A TIME PERIOD TO SAY FROM THIS TIME TO THIS TIME, WE RECEIVED THIS MANY TPD COMPLAINTS, WE RECEIVED THIS MANY TAMPA CONNECT COMPLAINTS, SPECIFICALLY WITH BIKERS THAT ARE DOING WHEELIES OR ALMOST HITTING PEOPLE. DO WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF LIKE DATA FOR THAT OR NUMBERS FOR THAT? >> YEAH, WE HAVE IT THROUGH OUR E-MAILS. IF WE PULLED ALL THE COMPLAINTS YOU HAVE RECEIVED THROUGH OUR E-MAILS, WE DON'T KEEP TRACK OF THE BUT ONES ON THE RIVERWALK,O WE'RE TALKING TO ABOUT THE SPECIFIC COMPLAINT. THROUGH E-MAIL, WE CAN FIND THAT INFORMATION. JUST DON'T HAVE IT TODAY. >>CARL BRODY: MEMBERS ON THE DAIS HAVE THE INFORMATION. YOU HAVE BEEN RECEIVING THE COMPLAINTS. TWO OR THREE OF YOU HAVE RECEIVED MULTIPLE. I SAY LARGE NUMBERS, I DON'T WANT TO PUT A NUMBER ON IT BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT BE ACCURATE. I WOULD SAY EASILY HUNDREDS OF COMPLAINTS BY MEMBERS ON THE DAIS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, MR. BRODY. EXCELLENT REVIEW. I APPRECIATE YOU PREEMPTIVELY GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE GOT SO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO ASK YOU -- SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO ASK YOU THE QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF TPD HAS MORE IN THE STAFF PRESENTATION BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT. I'LL HIT YOU WITH A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FIRST. THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT I GET BY FAR IS ELECTRIC BIKES. ON BAYSHORE, THERE IS A BICYCLE LANE THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE ROAD THAT'S NOT IN THE SIDEWALK. ELECTRIC BIKES CAN RIDE IN THAT, BUT THEY RIDE ON THE SIDEWALK AND GO WAY TOO FAST. AS I'M GETTING OLDER NOW, I FIND I AM NOT AS AGILE AS I USED TO BE AND THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO AREN'T. IF SOMEBODY IS COMING UP 30 MILES AN HOUR BEHIND THEM AND SAYS ON YOUR LEFT, THEY CAN'T MOVE FAST ENOUGH AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE IN DANGER WITH THAT HAPPENING. IDEALLY, WE WOULD HAVE SOMEBODY MENTIONED LAST TIME LANES AND ARROWS GOING EACH WAY SO PEOPLE WOULD KNOW. MY QUESTION TO YOU ALSO IN THE LETTER, I THINK IT SAYS OR IMPLIES THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO TRY TO PREEMPT US FROM LIMITING ELECTRIC BIKES ON SIDEWALKS. DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT? >>CARL BRODY: I DO KNOW THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS LOOKING INTO IT. I CAN'T GUARANTEE ANYTHING. THEY ARE LOOKING AT MODIFYING SOME OF THE SETTINGS AND STANDARDS ON THEM. IT WOULDN'T ADDRESS A SPECIFIC ISSUE OF CONCERN THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ELECTRIC BIKES RIDING DOWN BAYSHORE AND GOING AT HIGH SPEEDS, NO, IT WOULDN'T ADDRESS THAT. >>BILL CARLSON: WHATEVER WE DO, THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT PIECES. TO ME, THE REALLY URGENT PART IS ELECTRIC BIKES GOING TOO FAST ON SIDEWALKS IN PEDESTRIAN AREAS. I GET A LOT, A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT. THE SECOND THING IS, I UNDERSTAND HEARING FROM MS. BURTON AND OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHEELIES OR TRICKS KIDS DO. TO ME, SAME CONVERSATION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO ABOUT SKATEBOARDING, SOME OF US SKATEBOARDED AND WE SAID WHY AREN'T WE REGULATING THAT. SO WE TOOK IT OUT. I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT THE LANGUAGE SAYS, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO TAKE OUT THE WORD WHEELIES AND JUST PUT INTIMIDATING BEHAVIOR? I DON'T KNOW HOW TPD WOULD DESCRIBE IT. WHAT HAPPENS IS, GROUPS OF PEOPLE GET AROUND AN INDIVIDUAL AND THEY DO WHEELIES IN FRONT OF THEM TO INTIMIDATE THEM. THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN A KID PLAYING IN A PARK OR PLAYING IN THE RIVERWALK OR SOMETHING. IS IT POSSIBLE TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE SO THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO PUNISH KIDS WHO ARE JUST HAVING FUN? >>CARL BRODY: THERE IS A SPECIFIC PURPOSE FOR THIS, AND IT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON SAFETY ON THE MULTIMODAL TRAILS, INCLUDING, OF COURSE, THE RIVERWALK AND BAYSHORE. WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT KIDS -- TALKING ABOUT INTIMIDATING BEHAVIOR, THE BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THAT IS LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE IS VERY IMPORTANT. WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE TOO BROAD OR TOO VAGUE WHERE WE CAN'T BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT HOW IT'S GOING TO BE ENFORCED. BY PUTTING IN WHEELIES AND TRICKS, THAT IS VERY SPECIFIC, VERY NARROW. ALLOWS TPD TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE VIOLATION IS AND NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH TOO MUCH INTERPRETATION ON THEIR SIDE. >>BILL CARLSON: DON'T YOU THINK IT IS TOO BROAD? >>CARL BRODY: NO. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP IT NARROW. IF WE GO BROADER -- >>BILL CARLSON: SEEMS LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE NARROWER. >>CARL BRODY: I THINK IT'S VERY NARROW NOW. >>BILL CARLSON: ISN'T THERE A DIFFERENCE IF SOMEBODY SHOOTS A BIRD FROM A DISTANCE VERSUS RIGHT IN YOUR FACE? ISN'T THERE A DIFFERENCE IN THE WAY THAT WOULD BE DESCRIBED? >>CARL BRODY: IN TERMS OF DRAFTING LANGUAGE FOR AN ORDINANCE OR LAW, THERE ARE DISTINCTIONS TO BE MADE. WHAT YOU RUN INTO IS -- BECAUSE WE WOULD GET CHALLENGED IF WE HAVE LANGUAGE THAT IS NOT VERY CLEAR. IF WE JUST USE THE TERM THREATENING, THAT'S NOT AS OBJECTIVE AS WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE NOW. WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE NOW IS VERY CLEAR, VERY NARROW IN TERMS OF ITS LANGUAGE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY OBSERVATION OF ACTUALLY LIVING ADJACENT TO BAYSHORE, BE ABLE TO SEE IT EVERY DAY FROM MY WINDOWS AND WALKING BAYSHORE NEARLY EVERY DAY IS THE SPEED, YES. IT IS A QUESTION. IS THE SPEED. WE HAVE BICYCLISTS THAT ARE REALLY -- I MEAN NOT JUST CYCLISTS, THEY ARE CYCLISTS, THEY ARE DOWN, HELMETS, BUZZING ALONG PROBABLY 35 MILES AN HOUR IF I WERE TO GUESS. I'VE ALMOST GOTTEN RUN OVER MANY TIMES. WITHOUT THIS ORDINANCE, IS THERE A WAY FOR TAMPA PD TO ENFORCE THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR ON BAYSHORE? >>CARL BRODY: ON THE SPEED ISSUE, WE'RE LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT. SO, YES, THEY COULD BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A SPEED LIMIT I<u>%</u> PLACE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THAT IN ORDINANCE? >>CARL BRODY: THE ORDINANCE DOES HAVE A SPEED LIMIT ALREADY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT I'M STILL SEEING ON THE RIVERWALK GUIDELINES, WITH THE NO FISHING, BIKERS SLOW DOWN TO FIVE MILES AN HOUR, ALL THE -- ARE THESE INSTITUTIONALIZED IN ORDINANCE? >>CARL BRODY: NO. THESE ARE JUST KIND OF COURTESY DIRECTIONS GIVEN EXCEPT FOR THE ALCOHOL. THAT'S IN ORDINANCE. OTHERWISE, NO, THEY ARE NOT IN THE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TAMPA PD CAN'T CITE OR ENFORCE ANY OF THESE RULES? >>CARL BRODY: NO. EXCEPT THE ALCOHOL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY. VERY GOOD. IF THAT'S IT, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS SEVERAL PEOPLE SIGNED UP AHEAD OF TIME. I'M GOING TO CALL THEM FIRST AND THEN WE'LL COME UP WITH PEOPLE WHO DID NOT SIGN UP AND ASK FOR THAT PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL. KATHERINE MICHAELS FOLLOWED BY -- SORRY, KATHERINE RICHARDS. KATHERINE RICHARDS, ARE YOU HERE? PRESIDENT YVETTE LEWIS. >> SHE HAD TO LEAVE. I'LL LET THIS GENTLEMAN GO IN FRONT OF ME BECAUSE HE WAS HERE BEFORE I WAS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ACTUALLY, I'LL MAKE THAT CALL. >> ROBERT EDWARDS. THEY GAVE US TWO DIFFERENT LISTS OUTSIDE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME GO THROUGH THIS FIRST. EMILY HINSDALE FIRST. >> I WAS TOLD I DON'T HAVE TO FILL OUT A CARD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU DON'T HAVE TO. I'LL GET YOU IN A SECOND. YOU WILL BE INTRODUCED IN A MOMENT. EMILY HINSDALE FOLLOWED BY DAVID NIGHHAM. NO, YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER. [ SOUNDING GAVEL ] EMILY HINSDALE FOLLOWED BY DAVID NIGHHAM. >> HELLO. THANK YOU. EMILY HINSDALE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 41. OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE HAVE DIED ON HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ROADS SO FAR IN 2025. 18% OF THOSE ON CITY OF TAMPA OWNED ROADS. TODAY, WE ARE HERE TO PROHIBIT WHEELIES. I'M ASKING TO YOU VOTE TO OPPOSE THIS ORDINANCE AND RECONSIDER IT WITH A LOT MORE WORKSHOPPING, A LOT MORE DETAILS AND A LOT MORE PUBLIC INPUT. IT IS IMPORTANT, VERY IMPORTANT TO PREVENT POTENTIALLY HARMFUL CONFLICTS AMONG DIFFERENT TYPES OF USERS ON SOME OF TAMPA'S MOST POPULAR TRAILS. HOWEVER, THIS ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN IS FOCUSED MORE ON PUNISHING A TARGET GROUP THAN IN ADDRESSING THE CAUSES OF THESE CONFLICTS. THIS ORDINANCE RAISES MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS THAN THESE QUESTIONS NEED DEFINITIVE AND DETAILED ANSWERS GOING FORWARD. HOW WILL THIS ORDINANCE BE ENFORCED? ARE BIKERS TO BE CHASED DOWN THE RIVERWALK? ARE BIKERS TO BE TASKED WITH PRESENTING ID? THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW BEFORE THIS ORDINANCE IS PUT IN PLACE. WHAT KIND OF STATISTICS AND RESULTING NEWS HEADLINES WILL WE SEE COMING OUT OF THIS EFFORT? IS THE CITY COUNCIL PREPARED TO DEFEND THIS ORDINANCE IF A CERTAIN AGE, RACE, OR ECONOMIC GROUP RECEIVES AN OUTSIZED NUMBER OF TICKETS? WILL THIS ORDINANCE MESH OR CONFLICT WITH STATE E BIKE LAWS BEFORE THE STATE LEGISLATURE IN THIS UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION. UNTIL THE CITY COUNCIL IS CONFIDENT THIS ORDINANCE CANNOT BE INTERPRETED IN WAYS CONTRARY TO THE CITY'S INTEREST, THIS ACTION NEEDS TO BE PAUSED FOR FURTHER REFLECTION. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO INCLUDE THE CITY MOBILITY STAFF TO MAKE SURE THE ORDINANCE ADDRESSES THESE TRAILS DESIGNATIONS AS TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO INCLUDE INPUT FROM PEOPLE WHO DO BIKE AND E-BIKE ON THESE CORRIDORS, NOT JUST THOSE WHO OPPOSE BIKING AND E-BIKING IN THESE CORRIDORS. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO NOTE AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING THAT WE DO HAVE A CRISIS, NOT A COMPLAINT, WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY FOR BIKERS AND E-BIKERS ON OUR ROADS. THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY COUNCIL CAN ADDRESS MORE DEFINITIVELY RIGHT AWAY. WE CAN DIRECT THE CITY MOBILITY STAFF TO EXPLORE LOWERING SPEED LIMITS ON ROADS. WE CAN DIRECT MORE BUDGET MONEY TO PROVIDING SIDEWALKS, BIKE LANES AND SAFE INTERSECTIONS SO BIKES AND E-BIKES HAVE A SAFE ALTERNATIVE TO USING THE RIVERWALK AND BAYSHORE. AND WE CAN INSIST ON PROGRESS WITH THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED CAMERAS. THAT LAW WAS PASSED IN 2023 AND STILL NOT PUT IN PLACE IN 2025 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. PLEASE TAKE THIS TO A WORKSHOP AND LOOK AT IT MORE CLOSELY RATHER THAN A YEA OR NAY VOTE TODAY. THANKS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. DAVID NIGHHAM. NO. SIR, YOU ARE NEXT. AND THEN YVETTE LEWIS AFTER THAT. START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE. >> I'M ROBERT PETE EDWARDS. I'VE BEEN MONITORING THE CITY COUNCIL FOR 54 YEARS. IF YOU GO THROUGH THIS ORDINANCE LIKE IT IS, IT'S MALPRACTICE. I FEEL SORRY FOR THE LAWYER THAT WAS JUST HERE. HE DIDN'T DO HIS HISTORY WORK. SIMILAR INCIDENTS REGARDING THE BICYCLES AND ALL ACTUALLY STARTED, CHARLIE, WHEN WE FIRST GOT RIVERFRONT PARK. GET YOUR ORDINANCE SHEET OUT AND I'LL POINT OUT THE ISSUES. PAGE 2 OF 7, NUMBER 1 THROUGH 7 LINE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT NOTICE AN INCREASE IN WHATEVER THAT IS A RACIAL RED HERRING. GIVE A GOOD EXAMPLE, IF BILL CARLSON HAD A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT DRESSED IN ALL RED AND WAS PREDOMINANTLY WHITE AND WENT DOWN BAYSHORE, NOBODY WON'T SAY A THING. IF I HAD A GROUP OF KIDS ALL DRESSED IN RED, WENT DOWN BAYSHORE THE SAME WAY AND ALL, THE COPS WOULD BE ALL OVER THE PLACE ACCUSING US OF BEING IN GANGS. AND THEY DO PROFILE FROM TIME TO TIME. I'VE SEEN IT WITH BICYCLES IN PARKS FOREVER. THAT'S ONE REASON. NOW, YOU GO DOWN HERE WHERE IT GOES TO BETWEEN 8 AND 11, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT WHEELING AND WHATEVER, THEY EXCLUDED THE AGE LIMIT. PARENTS COME DOWN ALL THE TIME. I'M IN THE RIVERWALK AREA AT LEAST 20 TIMES A WEEK. THEY DON'T SAY WHO THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE THE CITATION TO, NONE OF THAT. GO DOWN FURTHER WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE STATE STATUTES AND ALL OF THAT. I THINK THE ATTORNEY MISLED US A LITTLE BIT THAT IT WAS RESTRICTED AND AT THE SAME TIME IT WAS BROAD ENOUGH. THAT'S WHY YOU NEED TO REWRITE IT AGAIN. FURTHER ON PAGE 2, LINE 37, DULY NOTICED. THAT'S WHERE WE MADE A BIG MISTAKE. SHOULD HAVE HAD AT LEAST TWO WORKSHOPS. CONSIDERING ALL THE ISSUES WITH BIKING AND BIKING WHILE BLACK AND ALL THIS OTHER KIND OF STUFF, WE JUST DIDN'T DO IT RIGHT IN THE BEGINNING IN SETTING THIS UP. I DON'T KNOW WHO CAME UP WITH THIS ORDINANCE, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE RESTRUCTURED ALL OVER AGAIN. GO TO PAGE 4 OF SEVEN AND IT TALKS ABOUT, AGAIN, THE WHEELING AND ALL. WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT HAPPENED TO KIDS THAT THE MUSEUM DIDN'T WANT TO DO EVEN WHEN THEY BE QUIET IN THEIR OWN CIRCLES CAN WHEELIES, NOBODY AROUND. IT IS DISCRIMINATORY. WE'LL LOSE IT LITIGATION-WISE AND LOSE IT ECONOMIC-WISE. ANYBODY BLACK OR BROWN, NOT GOING TO COME HERE WHEN THE CODING AND ALL IS ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCE. I'M 75 YEARS OLD. I'VE SEEN IT ALL. WE'RE MAKING A MISTAKE. JUST TEAR IT UP RIGHT THEN AND THERE. MAKE SURE THE CITY ATTORNEY DO HISTORICAL HOME WORK, I WILL HELP HIM. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? SAME THING, SETUP FOR MS. YOUNG. IF SHE VOTES FOR THE ORDINANCE THE WAY IT IS NOW, ENABLER OF RACIAL POLICY. IF SHE VOTE AGAINST IT THE COPS AND SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ACCUSE OF -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, WE'RE UNDER THE GUN. WE'VE GOT TO COMPLETE A COUPLE OF THINGS IN 25 MINUTES. I WOULD LIKE TO AFTER WE HEAR FROM YVETTE LEWIS, I WOULD LIKE TO PAUSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING, TAKE UP THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS SO WE CAN GET THOSE DONE, AND THEN WE CAN CONTINUE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO LOSE COUNCILMAN VIERA AT 11:55. >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M SORRY. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE TO GO, BUT THIS IS A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. THESE PEOPLE HAVE COME HERE. I'M SORRY HE HAS TO GO BUT THAT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM. WE HAVE TO CONTINUE. I DON'T MEAN THIS IN ANY DISRESPECT. >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE MOVE IT TO LATER IN THE DAY? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO. IT HAS TO COME BACK WITH THE APPOINTMENT. ACTUALLY, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A VOTE, THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION? >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST THE FACT THAT HE WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE A NOMINATION AND PARTICIPATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE HIS NOMINATION ALREADY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, NO. FOR THE ALTERNATE. >>LYNN HURTAK: HE CAN LEAVE IT WITH ONE OF US. >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I DON'T WANT TO WASTE FURTHER TIME ON THIS. I KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO DO WITH THIS HERE TODAY. SO LONG AS MY CONCERN CAN BE NOMINATED WHO WE KNOW WHO IT IS FROM MY POSITION, THAT'S FINE. WE CAN GET IT IN BEFORE, BY THE WAY, IF WE MOVE FORWARD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? >>MARTIN SHELBY: AT THREE MINUTES APIECE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU PLEASE PASS YOUR NOMINATION TO SOMEONE ELSE? >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME TAKE 30 SECONDS. A RESO -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WE HAVE. >>LUIS VIERA: JASON MARVA. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M SORRY, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'VE BEEN UNDER THE GUN WITH THE TIMING ON THIS. START WITH YOUR NAME. >> YVETTE LEWIS. PRESIDENT OF NAACP. FIRST OF ALL, MY MOTHER TAUGHT ME HOW TO BE RESPECTFUL. THIS GENTLEMAN ASKED ME COULD HE GO IN FRONT OF ME AND I DID THAT. I WAS TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION WITH YOU. THAT'S IT. LET ME EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU. I WATCHED CITY COUNCIL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHERE THEY MOVED A WHOLE AGENDA WAY BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENTS. THIS RIGHT HERE HAS BEEN PUSHED BACK. THAT RIGHT THERE SAYS WHAT EVERYBODY HAS BEEN SAYING IN THIS ROOM. RACISM STILL EXISTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS. THERE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL NEED TO DO TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS WHOLE BIKING WHILE BLACK COME IN. WE DIDN'T CREATE THIS. THE WHOLE BIKING WHILE BLACK STARTED WITH A LIGHT ON A BICYCLE TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR PEOPLE, AND WE GET IT. WE WANT THEM TO BE SAFE. TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TURN IT INTO A WEAPON TO ATTACK US, TO POLICE US AND OVER-POLICE US. MY CONCERN IS WITH THIS, IF IT STARTS HERE ON THE RIVERWALK AND BAYSHORE, HOW DO I KNOW OR HOW CAN I TRUST YOU ALL THAT IT WON'T CONTINUE OVER INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD? BECAUSE THE TRUST, THE GENTLEMAN SHOWED YOU TRUST. LET ME TELL YOU, AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE NAACP, I HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THIS CITY TO BUILD TRUST BACK BETWEEN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY AND THEM. BUT YOU ALL KEEP ERASING OR ERODING IT BASED ON THESE KNEE-JERK REACTIONS. GIVE IT SOME TIME. THINK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THE NAACP WANT EVERYBODY TO BE SAFE. BUT YOU CAN'T CONTINUE TO TREAT PEOPLE THIS WAY BECAUSE, OH, I WANT TO PUT A FINE ON A CHILD FOR RIDING A BICYCLE. THAT DON'T EVEN LOOK RIGHT ON THE HEADLINES. WHEN THEY SAY ORGANIZATIONS WANT TO COME HERE, THEY CALL US AND ASK US. COME ON NOW. I GET WHAT TPD IS WANTING TO DO. TRUST ME, I WOULD NOT WANT TO WALK DOWN BAYSHORE AND POP WHEELIES. HOW DO WE EDUCATE THE PEOPLE, LIKE EDUCATE THE KIDS LIKE WE NEED TO BEFOREHAND AND UTILIZE US? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. BUT NOBODY CAME TO TALK TO US. OKAY. WE HAVE A MEETING EVERY THIRD THURSDAY OF THE MONTH. YOU ALL ARE WELCOME. BUT THIS IS A SHAMEFUL GOD THAT YOU ALL ACTING LIKE THIS. COUNCILWOMAN NAYA YOUNG. NO REFLECTION. YOU JUST GOT THERE, BABY. YOU ALL FIX THIS SH -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM, PLEASE GO UP AGAINST THE WALL. MS. BURTON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? >> GOOD MORNING. CONNIE BURTON. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CAME ABOUT HAVING ENOUGH COURAGE IN AUSTRALIA TO SAY YOUNG CHILDREN, YOUNG PEOPLE UNDER A CERTAIN AGE, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOCIAL MEDIA AWAY FROM THEM UNTIL THEY ARE MATURE ENOUGH, THE MINDS FORMED AND THEREFORE NOT INFLUENCED BY NEGATIVE IMPACT. HERE WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, LIKE THEY ALWAYS SAY, POLICIES AND ORDINANCES THAT MADE WITH GOOD INTENTIONS SOMEHOW COMES BACK TO THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY THAT MEANS SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT. IF YOU WANT BAYSHORE BOULEVARD TO BE JUST FOR WHITE PEOPLE AND TOURISTS, SAY THAT. BUT I COULD TELL YOU THE PROBLEM YOU WILL HAVE, IF WE SEE THE DATA REFLECTS THAT IT IS UNDERPRIVILEGED CHILDREN, BLACK CHILDREN, THEN YOU KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO ADD TO THE ORDINANCE, YOU DON'T WANT BLACK WOMEN DOWN THERE WITH MEGAPHONES SAYING THAT THIS CITY IS RACIST. WE GOT TO FIND A WAY, IKE LUNCHTIME DRIVING MY -- LIKE I'M DRIVING MY CAR, YOU KNOW I HAVE TO SHARE THE ROAD. PEOPLE ON THE CELL PHONE NOT PAYING ATTENTION HAVE TO LEARN TO SHARE THE ROAD. BICYCLISTS SHARE THE ROAD. E-BIKE, SHARE THE ROAD. WE HAVE TO SHARE BAYSHORE AND THE RIVERWALK. IT HAS TO BE SHARED. WE HAVE TO EDUCATE YOUNG PEOPLE. WE DO. WE DON'T HAVE TO BE AT ODDS WITH YOUNG PEOPLE. WHERE IN THE HELL DO PEOPLE GO WHEN YOU KNOW FOR YOURSELF WE DON'T EVEN HAVE SIDEWALKS IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY? IF YOUNG PEOPLE EVERY NOW AND THEN WANT TO COME TO BAYSHORE, YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD SAY? WE DONE BUILD SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY COULD SHARE. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY THE OTHER NIGHT TO TAKE MY GRANDCHILDREN DOWN TO THE AQUARIUM. HAD NEVER BEEN IN THAT PART OF TOWN SINCE THEY BUILT ALL OF THAT. OUTSIDE RESTAURANTS ON THE SIDEWALKS, GRANDCHILDREN JUST IN AWE OF SEEING WHAT DOWNTOWN TAMPA LOOKED LIKE BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT DON'T LOOK LIKE NOTHING THEY COME FROM. YOU KNOW WHAT I HAD TO EXPLAIN TO THEM, PEOPLE HAVE TO SHARE. WE HAVE TO LIVE TOGETHER. WE HAVE TO LEARN ALL OF THAT. SO IF YOU BUILD THIS ORDINANCE, IF YOU MOVE IT FORWARD AND DON'T WANT TO DO NO WORKSHOP, WHAT IT TELLS ME AND WHAT I REPORT TO MY COMMUNITY IS THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT IS BIAS AGAINST PAST POLICIES, THAT HAS HURT THIS BLACK COMMUNITY, AND IF THIS ORDINANCE AGAIN REFLECTS THAT THE DATA THEN SHOW THAT A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF BLACK CHILDREN AND BLACK YOUTH IS BEING IMPACTED, IT SAYS THAT THIS CITY IS NOT WILLING TO SHARE. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. START WITH YOUR NAME. >> GOOD MORNING. KAREN KRESS, REPRESENTING THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP. WE BROUGHT COPIES OF THE PRESENTATION. I'LL BE QUICK AND YOU'LL HEAR SOME COMMON THEMES TODAY. THE PARTNERSHIP HAS -- SORRY. THE PARTNERSHIP HAS A LONG HISTORY OF DEVELOPING PROGRAMS TO ENCOURAGE SAFER CONDITIONS FOR PEOPLE WALKING AND BIKING. FOR CONTEXT, WE KNOW THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT PLANS TO CREATE A CONNECTED NETWORK OF PROTECTED BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE, AT LEAST IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. HELP US FIND THE FUNDING TO GET THIS DONE FASTER AS THERE IS AMPLE EVIDENCE THIS WILL BE THE GAME CHANGER. NEXT YOU'LL HEAR FROM OUR INTERN AUDREY EVERETT WHO DID GREAT RESEARCH ON BEST PRACTICES AND TRENDS FROM OTHER CITIES, BUT FIRST, HERE ARE OUR HIGH-LEVEL RECOMMENDATIONS AT THIS TIME. SO ENFORCEMENT. NOT ALL TRAILS SERVE THE SAME FUNCTION. RIVERWALK AND BAYSHORE TRAILS ARE DESTINATIONS SERVING AS RECREATION FITNESS AND COMMUTING CORRIDOR, MAYBE DIFFERENT FROM SOME OF THE OTHER TRAILS IN THE CITY. EDUCATION AND ENCOURAGEMENT. LET'S UTILIZE OUR LOCAL EXPERTS, ADVOCATES, AND TECHNOLOGY TO STRIKE A BALANCE THAT ACCOMPLISHES OUR GOALS. ENGINEERING AND SMART DESIGN. USING THE RIVERWALK AS AN EXAMPLE, THIS IS A FLOATING DOCK, LET'S NARROW AND WIDEN THE TRAILS TO GIVE PEOPLE THAT SPACE TO LINGER SO THEY ARE NOT KIND OF IN THE WAY OF MORE OF THE THROUGH TRAFFIC. AND THEN IN CONCLUSION, WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO. LET'S FOCUS ON DATA COLLECTION, DEVELOPING A COMMON LANGUAGE AND DEFINITIONS, PLACING VISUAL CUES TO SLOW PEOPLE DONE. IN ORDER FOR THE ORDINANCE TO BE DONE IN AN INTENTIONAL WAY, MORE THOROUGH PLAN MUST BE DEVELOPED WITH THE HELP OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT. NEXT YOU'LL HEAR AUDREY ABOUT SOME OF THE NATIONAL TRENDS THAT WE'VE LEARNED. >> HI. AUDREY. I HAVE BEEN CONDUCTING RESEARCH SPECIFICALLY ON E MICROMOBILITY. THOSE E-BIKES, AND E-SCOOTERS, AND THE BEST SAFETY PRACTICES NATIONALLY. OUR KEY INGREDIENT THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IS THAT SEPARATED AND PROTECTED SPACE, SPACES FOR BIKES IS ALSO HELPING ALLEVIATE ISSUES WITH E-BIKES AND ALSO RISKY BEHAVIOR. THIS IS REALLY TAMPA'S OPPORTUNITY TO BE FORWARD THINKING AND PROVIDE SOLUTIONS THAT BALANCE NEEDS FOR EVERYONE. NEXT SLIDE. SO THESE E-BIKES HAVE COME IN RECENTLY. CITIES ACROSS THE NATION ARE NOW HAVING TO DEAL WITH WHAT DO WE DO WITH THEM AND WHERE DO THEY BELONG? THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE CONVERSATION AS WELL AS WE DO HAVE CONTROL OVER OUR SHARED PROGRAM, WHICH IS -- WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING WITH THEIR PERSONAL VEHICLES. NEXT SLIDE. THE APPROACHES ACROSS FLORIDA AND ACROSS THE NATION ARE NOT CONSISTENT. SO THIS IS REALLY OUR CHANCE TO BE THE LEADERS HERE. SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY ELSE WAS TALKING ON BEFORE WAS DATA. WE REALLY DO NEED TO GET MORE DATA ON THIS TO LEARN EXACTLY WHEN, WHERE, AND WHY THESE INCIDENTS ARE OCCURRING. IT'S NOT SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO JUST BE HAVING E-MAILS. WE NEED TO BE TRACKING THIS. SOMETHING IMPRESSIVE THAT CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG IS DOING, ANY CRASHES INVOLVING AN E-BIKE OR BIKE IS REPORTED DIRECTLY TO THEIR PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT, SO THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A RUNNING TRACK RECORD SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY KNOW WHERE THEY NEED TO BE TARGETING SAFETY AND WHAT TO DO. RESEARCH ACROSS THE BOARD SHOWS THAT IF WE ARE DEALING WITH ISSUES IN HIGH PEDESTRIAN AREAS OF MIXED MODAL TRAILS THAT ARE BOTH DESTINATIONS AND TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS IN AND OF THEMSELVES, THE BEST THING TO DO IS TO ALSO HAVE PROTECTED CYCLE TRACKS RUNNING PARALLEL TO THOSE TRAILS. THAT HELPS GET SOME OF OUR SPEEDY USERS OFF OF THAT TRAIL AND IT DOESN'T FORCE THEM TO GO INTO THE WAY OF PEDESTRIANS TO FEEL SAFE. SO IN PORTLAND, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY SAW 45% DECREASE OF THOSE SPEEDY RIDERS ON THEIR MIXED MODAL TRAIL JUST BY PUTTING UP A CYCLE PATH. WE SAW SOMETHING SIMILAR IN ATLANTA WHERE ONE IN THREE PEOPLE BEFOREHAND FELT SAFE AND PREFERRED TO USE THAT MIXED MODAL TRAIL AND THEN AFTER IMPLEMENTING JUST A POP-UP LANE JUST TO TEST IT OUT, 1 IN 15 PEOPLE, IT WENT DOWN. PEOPLE FELT MORE SAFE USING THAT INSTEAD. IT ALLEVIATED THAT SPACE FOR MORE PEDESTRIANS. THROUGH THIS RESEARCH, I CAN'T HELP BUT SEE IT EVERYWHERE NOW. I SAW A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THIS WHEN I WAS VISITING MIAMI RECENTLY. BUT WHAT I WANT YOU GUYS TO TAKE AWAY IS THAT DESIGN NEEDS TO PRECEDENT THIS ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT? WE NEED TO HAVE CUES ON THE RIVERWALK AND ON THOSE TRAILS WITH HIGH PEDESTRIAN USE THAT SIGNAL TO PEOPLE THAT THEY NEED TO SLOW DOWN. IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR THEM TO MAKE THE BEHAVIORS THAT WE WANT TO SEE AND SUBCONSCIOUSLY DISCOURAGES THE BEHAVIORS WE DON'T WANT TO SEE, WHETHER THAT IS WITH THE TWO-WAY INDICATIONS, SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WALKING PATH TO BREAK UP THE TRAFFIC AND TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN, IT MAKES IT HARDER TO CUT ACROSS AND DO WHEELIES, DO WHATEVER PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO PULL OFF TO THE SIDE TO STARE AT THE WATER, RELAX. HOW CAN WE SERVE EVERYONE AND THEIR NEEDS INSTEAD OF JUST STANDING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT SPEAKER. START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS PAULA FLORES. I AM AN AVID BIKE RIDER AND A BOARD MEMBER OF WALK BIKE TAMPA. ON DECEMBER 15, WALK BIKE TAMPA SUBMITTED A LETTER EXPRESSING OUR DEEP CONCERN ABOUT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY'S PARK REGULATIONS. WE ARE OFFENDED BY SOME OF THE REBUTTAL FROM TPD AND I URGE YOU TO SEEK OTHER CONSULT ON SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS. WHILE THESE CHANGES APPEAR FOCUSED ON THE RIVERWALK AND BAYSHORE, THEIR IMPACTS WOULD EXTEND FAR BEYOND THE LOCATIONS WITHOUT EFFECTIVELY REDUCING CONFLICTS WHERE CONGESTION ACTUALLY OCCUR. SO WE URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO OPPOSE THIS ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN IN ITS CURRENT FORM. PLEASE, WORKSHOP IT AND ENGAGE OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND OTHER ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS. WE DO HONESTLY FULLY SUPPORT APPROPRIATE SPEED MANAGEMENT ON OUR BUSIEST DOWNTOWN TRAILS. DON'T GET US WRONG. THESE AMENDMENTS DO NOT ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL. OUR LETTER OUTLINED SIX MAJOR ISSUES AND CONCERNS. I'LL FOCUS ON JUST TWO. FIRST, THE ORDINANCE ALLOWS ELECTRIC BICYCLES AND OTHER DEVICES TO NOT EXCEED 10 MILES. YES, THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN DOES SOUND LIKE A MANUFACTURER'S REQUIREMENT. IF THIS IS TRULY A SPEED LIMIT LIKE IT IS INTENDED TO BE, THEN SAY SO. BE CLEAR. POST CONSISTENTLY ALONG THE TRAILS WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS AND NOT JUST AT THE ENTRY POINTS LIKE THE SIGNS THAT WE'VE SEEN TODAY. AND, OF COURSE, PAIR IT WITH EDUCATION AND OUTREACH LONG BEFORE YOU START ENFORCING. SECOND, THIS ORDINANCE WOULD APPLY TO ALL CITY OF TAMPA TRAILS, NOT JUST THE RIVERWALK AND BAYSHORE TRAIL. THAT INCLUDES MAJOR MULTIUSE REGIONAL CORRIDORS DESIGNED TO FUNCTION AS TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS, NOT JUST RECREATIONAL PATHS. APPLYING A BLANKET TEN MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT ALONG FOR LONG DISTANCE TRAILS IS NEITHER REASONABLE NOR PRACTICAL. ENFORCEMENT WOULD ALSO BE PROBLEMATIC ON TRAILS WITH ON STREET SEGMENTS SUCH AS THE NEW WEST RIVERWALK AND GREEN ARTERY AND CREATING UNCLEAR BOUNDARIES AND INCONSISTENT ENFORCEMENT. MOST CITY TRAILS DO NOT EXPERIENCE HIGH PEDESTRIAN CONGESTION. SO IMPOSING RESTRICTIVE CITYWIDE SPEED LIMITS WOULD UNFAIRLY IMPACT CYCLISTS, ANY BIKE COMMUTERS LIKE MYSELF AND MANY OTHERS, UNDERMINING THE MOBILITY PURPOSE FOR SOME OF THESE OTHER CORRIDORS AS THEY WERE DESIGNATED TO SERVE. REGULATIONS DO -- THAT COULD SEVERELY LIMIT BICYCLE USE ON THE TRAILS COULD BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE PURPOSE AND THE FUNDING MECHANISMS FOR THESE TRAILS. FOR THESE REASONS, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED TRAIL AMENDMENTS. LET'S WORK ON COMING UP WITH REAL SOLUTIONS THAT ADDRESS ALL THE SAFETY ISSUES THAT WE ALL AGREE ON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, PAULA. NEXT SPEAKER, START WITH YOUR NAME. >> GOOD MORNING, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. I AM CITY RESIDENT, TAMPA RESIDENT CHRISTINE ACOSTA. SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND ALSO ON THE BOARD OF WALK BIKE TAMPA. I ALSO ECHO THE REQUEST THAT YOU WORKSHOP THIS ISSUE SO WE CAN DO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US. AMONG THE MANY REASONS THAT THIS WARRANTS A PAUSE AND DEEPER DIVE IS THAT THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE, HOUSE BILL 243 AND SENATE BILL 382 ARE RELATED TO ELECTRIC BICYCLES. AND IF APPROVED, THESE BILLS WOULD GO INTO EFFECT IN JUST 15 MONTHS, JULY 1st, 2027. A COUPLE OF POINTS ON THIS PROSPECTIVE LEGISLATION THAT I'LL BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION. THE SHARED USE PATHWAYS, ELECTRIC RIDERS USING SHARED PATHWAYS IN PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS AND PROVIDE AUDIBLE SIGNAL BEFORE PASSING. THIS IS A BEST PRACTICE THAT IS ALREADY IN PLACE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. AND I TEACH IT AS A BEST PRACTICE WHEN I TEACH BICYCLE SAFETY AND USE MATERIALS PROVIDED BY THE LEAGUE OF AMERICAN BICYCLISTS. THERE IS GOING TO BE A NEW DEFINITION FOR ELECTRIC BIKES THAT HAVE MORE SIGNIFICANT MOTORS. A MOTOR LARGER THAN 750 WATTS AND CAPABLE OF SPEEDS, ESPECIALLY THESE HIGH SPEEDS THAT ARE MENTIONED ON BAYSHORE IN PARTICULAR, OVER 28 MILES AN HOUR. THESE WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLES. NOW, THE TRUTH IS, WE SEE THESE ALL OVER OUR COMMUNITY ALREADY, AND THEY ARE MISUNDERSTOOD AND MISINTERPRETED AS ELECTRIC BIKES. THEY ARE NOT. THEY ARE ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLES. AND THIS IS WHY YOU'RE GETTING SUCH FEEDBACK, ESPECIALLY ON BAYSHORE. THE BILL PROPOSES DRIVER EDUCATION COURSES THAT WOULD BE REVISED TO INCLUDE CONTENT ABOUT SHARING THE ROAD. WHAT IS A SHARROW. SOME PEOPLE CALL IT A PRAYERO, DON'T KILL ME. EXACTLY WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO SHARE A ROAD FOR THE MODAL USERS. THERE WILL BE AT LEAST 25 QUESTIONS ON THE FLORIDA DRIVER'S LICENSE EXAMS THAT CAN PERTAIN TO COVERING SAFE ELECTRIC BIKE OPERATION AND WOULD BE ADDED TO THE DRIVER SAFETY COURSE. LASTLY BUT POSSIBLY MOST IMPORTANT, THE POINT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT THE NEW STATE LEGISLATION WOULD REQUIRE CRASH REPORTING. CERTAIN CRASH REPORTS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO INCLUDE ELECTRIC BIKE AND ELECTRIC RELATED VEHICLES FOR THE DATA THAT WE NEED TO BE MORE -- HAVE GREATER KNOWLEDGE OF WHERE OUR CRASHES ARE HAPPENING. AND TO MAINTAIN -- THE STATE WILL MAINTAIN CRASH STATISTICS. SO PLEASE, LET'S WORKSHOP THIS AND DO BETTER. THANK YOU. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> HI. CASEY YOUNG, FRIENDS OF THE TAMPA RIVERWALK STAFF. WE WANTED TO BE HERE TODAY TO JUST ALSO ECHO WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE WORKSHOP FOR THIS. WE WANT THE RIVERWALK TO BE A SAFE PLACE AND THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO GO INTO THAT WITH THIS ORDINANCE THAT NEED TO BE DISCUSSED. WE WOULD LIKE TO WORKSHOP THIS AS WELL. THANK YOU. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT. IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, IF YOU COULD, PLEASE STAND NOW SO WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE EVERYONE WE NEED. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> STEPHANIE POYNOR. THIS PICTURE IS OF THE SIGNS THAT ARE ON THE MULTIMODAL TRAIL ON MANHATTAN. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE, EVIDENTLY. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AT. WHY THEY ARE NOT ON THE RIVERWALK, I DON'T KNOW. IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE. THE OTHER PAINTED LINES MAKE SENSE. YOU KNOW, I FIND THIS VERY, VERY INTERESTING. SOMEBODY SENT ME A TEXT AND SAID, WHY ARE THERE NO RECEIPTS? I'M LIKE, OH, THAT IS REALLY INTERESTING. BECAUSE THERE'S NO DATA BEEN PRESENTED ABOUT THIS. I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN. PEOPLE SAY, OH, THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE ARE REALLY UPSET ABOUT THIS AND EVERYBODY GETS ALL UP IN ARMS. THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE IS NOT A HUNDRED PEOPLE OR A THOUSAND PEOPLE. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN HURT BY THE SITUATION. THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU, IF KIDS CAN'T DO TRICKS IN A PARK, BECAUSE ALL OF THIS IS CITY PARKS OR COUNTY PARKS, IF KIDS CAN'T DO TRICKS IN A PARK, WHERE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO IT? ALSO, I THINK IT'S INTERESTING, WE'RE ASKING FOR WORKSHOPS BUT REALLY AND TRULY WHAT HAPPENED HERE IS THEY BROUGHT FORTH AN ORDINANCE WITHOUT HAVING ANY PUBLIC MEETINGS. THERE HAVE BEEN NO PUBLIC MEETINGS ABOUT THIS ANYWHERE IN THE CITY. IT CAME STRAIGHT TO YOU. LET'S DO THIS. I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I WORKED AT JOB CORPS BETWEEN D.C., BALTIMORE, ANNAPOLIS FOR TWO YEARS. I HAD MAYBE 4% WHITE KIDS. ALMOST EVERYBODY ELSE THERE WAS AFRICAN AMERICAN. I TOOK A BUSLOAD OF STUDENTS TO THE DMV EVERY WEEK BY MYSELF. I NEVER EVER HAD A PROBLEM. ONE OF THE COUNSELING STATEMENTS I GAVE THEM BEFORE WE WENT, I SAID YOU CANNOT STAND TOGETHER IN LARGE GROUPS BECAUSE IT FREAKS WHITE PEOPLE OUT. IT IS THE TRUTH. IT IS THE TRUTH. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE EQUAL BALANCE IS. I WANT TO SEE THE DATA. I'M SORRY, BUT CHIEF BENNETT IS A DATA GUY, DATA GUY, DATA GUY, BUT NOBODY SHOWED UP HERE WITH ANY DATA. I WANT KIDS TO LEARN THIS. DON'T TELL ME YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON THE NEWS, BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, MY KIDS SEE THE NEWS COME ON AND THEY LEAVE. THEY ARE LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO WATCH THIS CRAP. ONE OTHER MATTER, MY HUSBAND HAS STARTED BICYCLING. IT SCARES THE SH -- OUT OF ME. I'M SCARED TO DEATH HE WILL END UP DEAD. HE HAS HIS BIKE LIT UP LIKE A CHRISTMAS TREE JUST TO RIDE FROM THE PARKING LOT TO WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET TO RIDE. WE'VE GOT TO TAKE ALL THESE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION. THIS ISN'T ABOUT ONE PERSON OR ONE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ONE COMMUNITY. WHEN YOU MAKE THIS RULE, IT HITS EVERYBODY. THESE SIGNS HAVE BEEN ON THE MANHATTAN TRAIL SINCE I MOVED HERE. WHAT'S CHANGED? WHO IS GOING TO ENFORCE IT? AND WHERE IS THE LINE GOING TO BE DRAWN? YOU HAVEN'T EVEN PUT THESE OTHER ALMOST FREE THINGS IN PLACE, PAINTING THE ARROWS UP THERE, PUTTING THE SIGNS UP THERE. YOU HAVEN'T EVEN PUT THOSE IN PLACE THAT YOU WANT TO START PUNISHING KIDS AND GROWN-UPS. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEXT SPEAKER. START WITH YOUR NAME. THIS WILL BE THE LAST PUBLIC SPEAKER ON THIS HEARING. >> ROBIN LOCKETT. I WAS PREPARED TO COME UP HERE AND JUST FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT. I LOVE THE COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN. THEY WANT A WORKSHOP. I THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, RIGHT? BECAUSE ALL THE INFORMATION, I'M DATA DRIVEN. WHERE IS THE DATA? IF COUNCIL -- THIS IS A PET PEEVE WITH ME WHEN I HEAR YOU GUYS UP HERE. IF YOU ARE GETTING COMPLAINTS AND YOU ARE OUTLINING, HEY -- BECAUSE THE LAST MEETING, WE'RE GETTING SO MANY COMPLAINTS, HUNDREDS IS WHAT I HEARD, WHY ISN'T IT BROUGHT UP TO THE DAIS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION SAYING, HEY, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS BEFORE AN ORDINANCE IS CREATED. SO COMMUNICATION IS NOT JUST KEY WITH US, COMMUNICATION IS KEY WITH YOU GUYS ALSO UP THERE. THIS ORDINANCE GOES FURTHER OUT THAN BAYSHORE AND RIVERWALK. COPELANDS PARK, MY COMMUNITY, ROULETTE PARK, MY COMMUNITY. IT IS LARGER THAN BAYSHORE AND RIVERWALK. SO I THINK PROVIDING INFORMATION, DATA, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE DATA, COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, I AGREE WITH YOU. WHY CAN'T IT BE EDUCATION BEFORE? IF THE WORKSHOP IS NOT SLATED UNTIL MARCH, THEN GUESS WHAT, CREATE YOUR ROBUST EDUCATION NOW ON THINGS THAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING TO GET PREPARED FOR THAT POSSIBLE ORDINANCE. AND THEN TRACK IT. IF YOU SEE THERE IS AN IMPROVEMENT, YOU MAY NOT HAVE TO DO AN ORDINANCE. AGAIN, THERE'S NO WAY THAT -- PEOPLE SHOULD BE FINED. I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. IT'S NOT THE KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE FINED. IT IS GOING TO BE THE PARENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE FINED. WITH TECO GOING UP, RENT GOING UP, ANOTHER $75 MAY BREAK SOMEBODY. SO I THINK THIS HAS TO BE WELL THOUGHT OUT. I LOVE THE IDEAS THAT THE OTHER GROUPS HAD IN REGARDS TO HOW ARE YOU TESTING THIS AND LOOKING IN OTHER PLACES? CONNIE BURTON SAID SHARE. WE SHOULD SHARE. I WALK -- USED TO -- ALL THE TIME. BUT DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE I'M JUST WALKING. BUT I HEAR SOMEBODY COMING UP BEHIND ME SAYING BIKE, BIKE, BIKE, I'M LIKE, OKAY, WHICH SIDE AM I SUPPOSED TO GO ON? EDUCATION IS VERY IMPORTANT. WORKSHOP IS VERY IMPORTANT AND BEING VERY INTENTIONAL ON HOW WE RESOLVE AND MOLD THIS TOGETHER TO WORK TOGETHER. THANK YOU. >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, THIS IS NOT DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE. I WANTED TO CONFIRM, ALAN COHEN IS MY NOMINATION. ALTERNATE, JASON MARLOW, BECAUSE I MAY NOT BE HERE FOR THAT. I APOLOGIZE THAT I HAVE TO LEAVE AT THIS TIME. I WANTED TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN. I'VE BEEN CHAIR BEFORE IN 2019. BEING CHAIRMAN OR CHAIRWOMAN OF CITY COUNCIL IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT. YOU TRY TO FIND A WAY THROUGH, AND IT'S HARD. IT'S ALWAYS HARD. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I TRY. >>LUIS VIERA: EVERYBODY, THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. WE COULD HAVE COUNCIL DISCUSSION. I WANT TO FRAME THIS ISSUE. THIS ITEM IS THE SECOND READING OF A PROPOSED ORDINANCE. SO RIGHT NOW IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, WE HAVE THE CHOICE. WE CAN VOTE THIS UP, VOTE THIS DOWN, OR CONTINUE IT. DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THE VOTE, WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION AS INSINUATED IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS. WHAT IS THE WILL OF COUNCIL? COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'LL SEE WHERE THIS GOES. BUT I MOTION TO VOTE THIS DOWN AND TAKE THIS ISSUE TO AN APRIL 23rd WORKSHOP WITH TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS IN THE INTERIM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THERE ANYBODY -- LET'S START WITH THIS. ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO READ THIS ORDINANCE? KEEP IT CLEAN. ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO READ THE ORDINANCE? NO. THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE A MOTION TO -- WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO -- WHAT WOULD BE THE PROPER READING OF THAT? >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION IS YOU TAKE IT STEP BY STEP. YOU HAVE THREE MOTIONS ROLLED INTO ONE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE AT A TIME. THIS IS A MOTION TO REJECT OR DENY -- >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOTION TO DENY THE ORDINANCE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS THE FILE NUMBER? >>LYNN HURTAK: 2025-8, CHAPTER 16 AND 23.5. >>ALAN CLEND TO DENY FILE E2025-8 CHAPTER 16 AND 23.5. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU WANT TO HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU HAVE A DISCUSSION TO DENY? DISCUSSION TO DENY, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A QUESTION. INSTEAD OF DENYING, CAN WE CONTINUE IT TO A DATE NOT SET UNTIL AFTER THE WORKSHOP KIND OF THING? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WOULD BE OUT OF ORDER BECAUSE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO DENY. >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I ANSWER HIS QUESTION? SO THE QUESTION IS, WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO DO IS BE ABLE TO PULL THIS BACK IN A DIFFERENT FORM AFTER WE HAVE A WORKSHOP ON IT. BUT OUR ATTORNEY IS TELLING US WE HAVE TO SEPARATE THOSE THREE THINGS. THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF THAT IS YOUR INTENT THAT YOU RESCIND THAT MOTION AND CONTINUE THIS TO A FUTURE, FUTURE -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CANNOT DO THAT. IT IS A NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING THAT HAS TO BE CONTINUED TO A DATE, TIME AND LOCATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. TO A FUTURE DATE. PICK A FUTURE DATE THAT YOU KNOW YOU'LL HAVE A WORKSHOP BEFORE THAT TIME. >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M THE MAKER OF THE MOTION. I'LL SAY, NO, I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. I FEEL THIS ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE REWRITTEN -- I WANT IT REWRITTEN SIGNIFICANTLY ENOUGH AFTER HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC. >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAVE TO HAVE A FIRST READING ON A NEW DOCUMENT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. THAT IS THE INTENT. EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE INTENT. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW WHAT REWRITTEN MEANS. I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. BUT WHAT FORM AFTER THE TWO WORKSHOPS AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO WRITE IT, IN WHAT FORM? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE SUGGESTIONS AFTER THE WORKSHOP SESSIONS. WE BRING IT BACK FOR FIRST READING AFTER THE WORKSHOP, AFTER WE HAVE THAT BIGGER DISCUSSION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'RE NOT WORKSHOPPING IT RIGHT NOW. THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO DENY THIS MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. ALL THE REST WILL BE SUBSEQUENT BUSINESS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. THIS MOTION HAS DIED. NOW IN NEW BUSINESS TODAY, YOU CAN BRING UP A MOTION TO HAVE -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE MOTION HAS PASSED. THE ORDINANCE HAS DIED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE MOTION HAS PASSED. THE ORDINANCE HAS DIED. >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE DO IT NOW SINCE THE PUBLIC IS HERE? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO. WE'LL DO IT DURING NEW BUSINESS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL SUPPORT A WORKSHOP SO THE PEOPLE KNOW WHEN IT COMES. >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THE FIRST AVAILABLE WORKSHOP DATE IS APRIL 23rd. WE WILL PUBLICLY NOTIFY YOU, BUT APRIL 23rd IS WHAT I WILL MOTION BECAUSE THAT IS THE FIRST WORKSHOP DATE THAT HAS SPACE ON IT. IN THE MEANTIME, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO WORK WITH STAFF AND TPD TO HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS. I KNOW THE CITY WILL DO THEIR BEST TO PUT THAT INFORMATION OUT. AND I WILL SHARE IT AS WELL. I KNOW OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL AS WELL. LOOK FORWARD TO THAT MOTION. I WILL TRY TO SNIP IT AFTER COUNCIL TODAY AND PUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. THE REASON WHY I SAID BRING THIS BACK IN NEW BUSINESS, I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL, PART OF THIS STUFF IS ORDER AND PREDICTABILITY. MOVING THINGS AROUND ON THE AGENDA, PEOPLE HAVE EXPECTATIONS. IF WE DON'T STICK TO BUSINESS AND STICK TO THE PATTERN, WE REALLY NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF MAKING SURE WE FOLLOW THE AGENDA, FOLLOW WHAT IS APPROVED BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE EXPECTATIONS. THEY ADJUST THEIR SCHEDULES TO BE HERE. THAT IS THE REASON WHY I WANT -- COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF I MAY, SO YOU'RE GOING TO BRING UP THE WORKSHOP MOTION IN NEW BUSINESS. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU CONSIDER, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION ALONG WITH THIS THAT IN THE MEANTIME BETWEEN NOW AND THE WORKSHOP THAT SINCE THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT IS READY TO GO WITH THIS ROBUST EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT, HOW WE WORD IT, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT AT NEW BUSINESS, BUT IN THE MEANTIME GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND SAY WE WANT YOU TO BE SAFE ON THE RIVERWALK. I BROUGHT UP RIVERWALK CONCERNS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STOP FOR A SECOND. AGAIN, THIS IS ALL DISCUSSION FOR NEW BUSINESS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST FOR SOMETHING TO HURTAK TO THINK ABOUT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BRING THAT UP IN NEW BUSINESS. [ SOUNDING GAVEL ] WE REALLY ARE PRESSED FOR TIME. COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS LEFT. HIS ITEM WAS 66. WE HAD AN AGENDA REVIEW TO MOVE THAT ITEM BEFORE LUNCH SO HE COULD BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION. CAN I GET A MOTION TO MOVE 66 TO AFTER COUNCILMAN VIERA RETURNS. >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE? OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. BEFORE LUNCH, WE NEED TO ACT ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS OF BUSINESS. ONE IS TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPOINTING THE MEMBERS OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION THAT THE COUNCIL HAS NOMINATED. MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND ALSO DESIGNATING THE FACILITATOR AND LEGAL COUNSEL. HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU. ALTHOUGH BEFORE YOU DO THAT, IT IS INCOMPLETE. IF YOU LOOK DOWN WHERE IT SAYS CITY COUNCIL ALTERNATE -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M GETTING THERE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE IT MOVE UNTIL YOU HAVE THAT DECIDED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO THAT ONE FIRST? >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE TO FILL AN ALTERNATE MEMBER OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. THAT IS BEFORE COUNCIL. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: MY NOMINATION FOR ALTERNATE IS ALISON HEWITT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A NOMINATION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. DON'T NEED A SECOND. IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION? >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL MAKE HIS NOMINATION, JASON MARLOW. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOMINATION OF JASON MARLOW. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? THE NOMINATIONS ARE CLOSED. [ SOUNDING GAVEL ] BY RAISING YOUR HAND. WE HAVE THREE. ALL THOSE FOR JASON MARLOW, SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND. >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE COUNT VIERA'S VOTE? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S WHY IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE HIM HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: THE THING IS, IT WAS HIS CHOICE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WAS NOT HIS CHOICE. IT WAS HIS BUSINESS. >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, THAT IS A CHOICE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE. THAT MOTION, ANYBODY LIKE TO RECONSIDER THEIR VOTE? ANYBODY LIKE TO RECONSIDER THEIR VOTE? >>MARTIN SHELBY: BY THE WAY, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD AND THE TRANSCRIPT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT VOTE IS RECORDED, MADAM CLERK, DO YOU KNOW? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RIGHT NOW, I WILL FOR THE RECORD, THE VOTE WAS ALISON HEWITT 3. THAT WOULD BE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. JASON MARLOW THREE, THAT WOULD BE ALAN CLENDENIN, COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON. WOULD NINE LIKE TO RECONSIDER THEIR VOTE TO BREAK THE TIE? OTHERWISE WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR VIERA TO GET BACK TO BREAK THE TIE WHICH WE KNOW WHAT THAT WILL END UP BEING. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT THERE IS A LOT OF WHITE MEN ON THIS. THAT'S THE REASON. I DIDN'T WANT ANOTHER WHITE MAN. NO OFFENSE. I THINK WE NEED EXTRA REPRESENTATION ON THIS. THAT'S SPECIFICALLY WHY I WANTED A WOMAN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THAT DIES. IS THERE ANY POINT TO CONTINUE THIS -- MR. SHELBY -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DID NOT KNOW COUNCILMAN VIERA WAS COMING BACK. DO YOU KNOW WHAT TIME? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, I SUGGEST WHAT WE DO IS LET'S SEE WHERE THIS THING ENDS UP AND HAVE IT DONE HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE TODAY'S MEETING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE LUNCH. COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED, AND WE WILL RECONVENE AT 1:30. 1:30. [ SOUNDING GAVEL ] [LUNCH RECESS]