[0:53] Speaker 1: Hey baby. [1:23] Chair: would like to call to order this meeting of the Apple Valley Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee, November the 6th, 2025. At this time, I'd like to invite all those present or willing and able to please rise the pledge of allegiance. All right, good evening everyone. Uh, first up tonight is we need an agenda in order to conduct our business meeting and uh, Kayla has made a copy of that and provided that to all the members. Um, are there any changes or additions anyone like would like to see made in the agenda for tonight? Seeing none, I would look for a motion to approve the agenda for this evening's meeting as printed. [2:25] Randy: So moved. [2:30] Dave: A motion by Randy and a second by Dave. [2:35] Chair: Uh, all those in favor, please signify by saying I. [2:38] Committee Members: I. [2:40] Chair: Opposed. We have ourselves an agenda for tonight. Uh first thing on this agenda is the audience participation. We set aside some time every meeting for audience or for members to come and speak with us. Um are there any persons would like to speak with us tonight? Come to the podium. Uh just uh state your name and an address and uh you have as much time as you need. [3:15] Mike Angelhoff: I'm Mike Angelhoff and I live at 15596 Dunbury away in Apple Valley. Okay. Uh tonight I'm here with my neighbors. I got Tammy and Dean with me. They just live on the same street and we are pickle ball players and we play at East View Courts there uh just south of East View High School. And uh they've had some new courts being built this this summer. Yep. And they had eight already. and we've got eight new ones. They're not quite ready, but so we've been playing for about four years and over the last couple years the numbers have been dwindling and um I think it's because of the parking issue and I know part of the parking issue is because of the construction of the new courts. The other part of the parking issue is because of the there's 22 spots for park people and uh the students are parking in those and people that are trying to play pickle ball are having to park way out just uh just to the north I guess of the aquatic center there. And um so I think the numbers over the last two years have really really dwindled and um I would it's it's more fun when we have more people showing up and the courts are being used and I hate to see that you know you built eight new courts for us that you know the eight courts you had before aren't being used enough and uh you know we're just I'm here to just see if there's any solution to the parking problem so that it's easier for people to show up and and play. [4:57] Chair: Okay. Eric, do we know how the school is enforcing that parking situation at all or [5:06] Eric: So, Mr. Chair, members of the committee, Kayla's going to see if she can get a map up just so that you have a reference point, but the So, if you recall, and there we go. Thanks, Kayla. Yeah. So, you don't see the new pickle ball courts on there yet because this is old Ja or old aerial footage, but um you you know that they're just to the east of the existing tennis courts. And so the that parking lot right there actually is on city property. Um, however, during the school year, so from late August through the beginning of June, there's a lot of high school kids that park in those parking stalls um in that large lot in the lot in front of the activity center and then going towards the uh aquatic center. They park there because there's not enough parking at Eastview High School for them to park. um and or they don't want to pay for the parking in the East View lot, which the school district charges uh for a parking a parking permit. Um to add to that, um I think everyone's aware that the school district is building an activity center um onto East View High School, which is in this general location that Kayla's circling. Um but it's taking up some of their parking that they had. So they have less parking on site than they had prior to that project taking place. So, we get a number of high school kids parking during the um school year um in the parking lot. Um when we started the pickle ball courts, we did uh identify 20 20 to 22 spots on that south side that Kayla's uh pointing out. Um I will say that the high school kids are about as good as reading the signs as some of us as adults are about reading uh signs and they don't always follow what the signs say. Um, I will also say that it's not necessarily a priority of the police department to um monitor the parking stalls and to make sure that um the right people are parking there. Um, if the parks committee wants some options on what we could or couldn't do to help resolve the issue being brought in front of you, um, you can certainly u provide us with that direction and we can see what ideas we can come up with if that helps summarize the situation at all. [7:19] Committee Member: Okay. Can I ask what what time of day you're typically running into this problem? Is it consistent during a certain period? [7:29] Mike Angelhoff: Yeah, we usually show up a little after 8:00 and those spots are all full to students. [7:34] Committee Member: 8 a.m. [7:36] Mike Angelhoff: There's people that start playing, you know, at 7:00 during the summer. So, [7:39] Dave: do we know what the net reduction of isu parking was part of the or what the long-term delta is? [7:44] Eric: I don't I don't remember what the the parking reduction is on the east property. I do know that we we um I think I think it was like 50 stalls. We took out roughly 50 stalls just to build the pickleball courts. So um we certainly have less parking on site and then we took away some stalls because of the skate park project as well. [8:06] Dave: So East View has some type of monitoring system person to make sure that the kids that are parking in their lots that have paid for those spots um are there, you know, that they've paid and they got their ticket and everything like that. Um and we are very generous with our property for East View. Could they not extend that parking, I don't know, monitoring system or person over to our lot to make sure that, you know, the that the kids that maybe they're not paying for that, but they have a East View ticket and they're parking in East View spaces. [8:52] Eric: I mean, how are you going to enforce who's parking there though? Because people are going to be parking there to play and then later on pass. [9:02] Dave: Maybe get a pass and then at the activity center. I I mean, I don't know, but use I'm just saying maybe we use some of East View's resources to help with a solution for this. [9:17] Eric: We We can explore um options, [9:20] Chair: right? Well, I mean, right now is not where we come up with a solution. Yeah, I think Eric, we should take you up on your offer to come up with few options and uh come back at a future meeting with some things for us to consider. [9:33] Eric: Yeah, thanks, Eric. We'll get you a golf cart [9:43] Committee Member: outside of 8 a.m. Are there other hot spots or the weekends? [9:48] Mike Angelhoff: Um well, I'm sure in the evening it's probably not a problem unless there's, you know, the summer softball or baseball games going on parking, but Like when those are full then you you're busy right? Football usually the morning people are usually done playing by 10:30, latest at 11. [10:11] Eric: So committee members, I mean, just recognize that high school students are getting there at 7, 7:30 in the morning. They got school all day long for the most part, unless they're a PsO student or something like that. Um, and so they're there until 2:30ish, I think, is when they kind of all take off. So between 7:30 and 2:30, their car is probably not moving too much um once they get on site. And that's really the issue, you know. So on one hand, we've got a public parking lot, right, that anyone can park in. And on the other hand, we've got park users that want to use amenities that um I mean, there's parking on site. It's just maybe not as close as what could be or what might be desired. So that's the dilemma that we have. [10:55] Dave: The only hope in my head is you got a lot of paid parkers coming into the loser lot and you know they're going to go back over there when things open back up and that free space with the total reduction if that's what I that's what I see initially you could do something to just remind folks to the park but former high school students so either of them would [11:15] Eric: We'll explore some options and bring something back to the committee um over the winter. It won't be December, but we'll we'll explore some options and bring some information back to the committee um in the first part of 2026. [11:38] Chair: It would be great. I think there's got to be a solution that we can work out somehow. So, just a matter of figuring out what the best one is. I'd also like to find out what that lot looks like in the early evening when there is sports being played, football, lacrosse, baseball going on. Um, is that lot being filled up and are those spots being taken during that time too? [12:13] Eric: It's going to depend on the day. that depend on what's what activity is going on in in the area. Um, you know, I' I've been through the parking lot at different times of the day, at different times of the evening, different days of the week, and you know, sometimes it's hit or miss, sometimes it's plenty of parking, sometimes there's no parking if there's a tournament going on, etc., etc. So, lots of variables going on. [12:35] Mike Angelhoff: Yep. Okay. Thanks. So, it is Mike, right? Yep. Um, when I've been through there, there seems to be a a big group of people that come say early in the morning and play until like say 9:30 or 10:00 and then after that uh Yeah, there's nobody there then. Well, well, and part of that is in the summertime, you know, if it's 90 degrees out and there's no shade, you probably don't want to be playing at 3:00 in the afternoon. So um but uh so yeah it is that a certain group of people that come every day that do that? Well like I say um is there a league or you know in the last few years you know we were utilizing all eight of the existing courts, right? And they have a paddle holder where you would put your paddle in to wait for a court to open. Okay. and you know there'd be three or four courts um people waiting um and that that has you know gone away now we maybe get four five courts going on a good day. Okay. and uh I say the the eight new courts being built I mean it's a shame to see if you know if we can't fill up the existing courts these other ones are you know um we definitely They have plenty of courts right now. So, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's good for the Rotary Pickle Ball Tournament that they've had there last couple years, but Yeah. I I have a feeling they're going to be uh sitting empty. Yeah. And part and the big part of it is the uh parking and I'd like to see people start coming back and more people the more fun, right? [14:22] Chair: So, well, we'll certainly see if we can't find a solution and that that can work for everybody and I think there's got to be something we can come up with. So, all right. Thank you. Appreciate your time. Thanks for coming. Appreciate it. Anyone else care to speak with us? [14:41] Patrick Luke: Hi, Patrick Luke. I live at 13647 Holy Oak. That's uh adjacent to What's that park on Boulevard? I feel as if I'm in the shark tank. [14:59] Chair: Well, just so get you a little lighter here so I can relax. We're We're very tank. [15:06] Patrick Luke: I understand. Usually it's the people on that side that are kind of We're very giving you money. So I take that you're all volunteers, correct? My audience. And over here we have city staff. Oh, I did not expect to be here. I have five, six handouts and a proposal that I'd like to propose to you that I'd like to get you to get behind, take to the city council, or maybe it just has to go this far. I'm not sure. But while you're looking at this, I'd like to explain a little bit about myself that will help you understand my proposal. [15:52] Chair: I will pass along for you. Give me these and we'll pass them along. [16:02] Dave: How about if we share? Great. This man might have everything you want. there. [16:29] Patrick Luke: So, anyways, 28 years ago, I moved into the city of Apple Valley and behind my house is a 20-oot easement that goes to Sunset Park that was used for a walking trail. Needless to say, it was left vacant. I found cinder plaque, uh, logs. Oh, there was tons of debris in there. And so, I called the city and talked to the city parks department and they said, "Well, how can we help you. And I said, "If I clean all this stuff up and put it on the edge of the culde-sac, will you come and pick it up?" They said, "Well, of course." And yeah, I was I was great. And I said, "Well, what can we do with this property? Are you going to mow it?" And they said, "No, we're just going to leave it." And at that time, they told me I could do as I pleased with that property. I could not own it. So going forward, I volunteer in a lot of different areas and I am a master recycler for Dakota County and uh they have a person that's in charge of the uh Dakota County uh recycling program and all the volunteers. They have a website that is managed by a volunteer so that you know what you can volunteer in what areas and when to do it and how you can get out there. A lot of people are very involved. So beginning of this year I retired. Gave me a lot more time on my hands. Volunteer. You like to volunteer? Does anyone volunteer over there? This is an opportunity for you after you hear what I have to say. I joined Apple Valley Eco Advocates and boy I learned about solar panels uh data centers. I was I was real curious. I was going to city council meetings and I was learning and I found that oh there's some weed pulling and gardening in there and so I wanted to learn some more. So I saw there was a class in Dakota County for wildflower planting native garden wild flowersowers and uh for uh lake erosion. I'm not going to have all the details and special words. Uh, so I took the class and I took the second class on how to plan it. And they said, uh, it's not likely you'll be able to do this on city property. Said, well, I'll see. Because I thought, well, they said I could do with that property that I wanted behind my house. So rather than just jumping into it and doing as I pleased, I went to the parks and maintenance building and wanted to talk to maintenance uh parks manager and the lovely woman at the desk said, "Oh, we have a naturalist." And this lovely person came out and spoke to me and asked me what I was interested in. And I said, "I wanted to plant a wild flower garden in the park." And she said, "Give me a minute." and she got her laptop and took me into the next room and she started pulling up maps of the park, the Sunset Park. And she said, 'Well, where exactly are you talking about and we looked at boundary lines and different utilities that went through there and she said, "Tell you what, let's have an on-site meeting." So, she was she said, "Well, see where this goes." So, we set up a date and she came out in the rain and the cold in the spring and we looked at where I was talking about and there was a sewer easement there and she said, "Well, anything you do here might get tore up if there were repairs need to be done." But she said, "But let's see where we could do this." So, we started walking over towards the uh there's a sewer drain runoff with filtration for alamagnet and we're walking through there looking back and forth and uh we agreed that over by the playet there was an area that could be cleared that I could do a wildflower planting and at that point I got the Apple Valley Eco advocates together and said, "Oh, look what we're going to be able to do." But she told me, "This summer, we're very busy and I'm not going to be able to do anything with you." So, I just stayed quiet till fall. And she called me. It's very respectful, very, she's very interested in what we're interested in. And uh we had an agreed plot. I had gone over there on my own and cleaned out some stumps and prepped it. and she said, "Well, I can get you some wildflower plugs." And uh they had some leftover ones from another project. And uh we set up a date and got this wildflower planting done. But was what what is more important is I walked around the neighborhood and looked at people that had gardens. I mean, people that were gardeners and I said, "Let's get involved with the park. Come over and help us plant wild flowers. And we actually got about 10 people. This is one park. And I was thinking, well, why can't we do this in all the Apple Valley? And then I learned that Dakota County collects seeds from wild flowers and they actually plant them in cones and make plugs. And I went, well, why can't we do that too as volunteers? And so I see a lot of opportunity. It's going to take uh community education to get involvement. Uh buckthorn pulling. Yeah. I was out there for a couple hours. They wanted to do more. So we said, "Well, this weekend we're going to do it. I bet you we're going to be out there for four to six hours, probably in below 40 degree weather, cutting buckthorn out that's 15 feet tall. going up against Alam Magagnet Blake. And as I look around, I'm going there's a lot of buckthorn. The thing is is we want to put time into it and get rid of it. And I'm sure there's a lot of other people, too. And there's a lot of people in the community that don't even even identify that it's growing in their own yard. My concern is is that I'm going to go off in the park and start doing things that aren't going to coordinate with your plans. If I'd have some direction on where to put my efforts, we'd be getting a lot done. I mean, the cost is right. I don't have a high budget. I don't have any slides to show. It's just who I am. Have you had any thoughts about a coordinator for the public? The militia. [23:23] Eric: So, so the city of Apple Valley partners with a few other communities on with a for a volunteer coordinator and so our staff works with um her name is Diane Ericson and she helps coordinate people that are interested in becoming volunteers and or when staff has projects where we could use volunteers she helps recruit volunteers. Um we obviously the person you were referring to is Samantha Berger. She's our natural resource manager. She works with a lot of volunteer groups as does Steve Rother um our park superintendent um on different volunteer type projects. Last Saturday, as an example, we had an Eagle Scout project um at Hayes Park. Um the Eagle Scout planted over 500 um natural plugs in a storm water basin that we constructed as a part of the Haze improvement project. um the weekend before that the eco advocate or maybe it was two weekends before that a group of the eco advocates were there um pulling weeds out of the existing infiltration basins that are there. So we work with a variety of volunteers. Sometime they're neighborhood volunteers and they have a specific interest within within a park. Um sometimes we work with an eco scout that's trying to accomplish a project. Um and it might be anywhere within the city. Sometimes we work with students from the um environmental school over at the zoo on projects they have to do. So we work with a a variety of volunteers to try try to accomplish projects. [24:51] Patrick Luke: You said this was Diane Ericson. [24:54] Eric: Diane Ericson is the name of the staff person, a paid staff person that helps coordinate volunteer efforts on behalf of the city of Apple Valley, um, Invergrove Heights, and there's one other city and it's just the name of it's escaping me right now. [25:08] Patrick Luke: Does she do any public education? [25:11] Eric: Does she do any public in what regard? In what in what realm? [25:15] Patrick Luke: Invasious species. Uh, [25:18] Eric: she she only coordinate she only coordinates the volunteers. She does not she does not talk about natural resources. She might coordinate or she might coordinate volunteers for elections. She might coordinate volunteers for some filing project the city has. She might coordinate volunteers for a um a garbage pickup or something like that. A variety of volunteer projects that she would coordinate, but she does not specifically get involved in the project. She just helps organize and recruit the volunteers. [25:44] Patrick Luke: Without education, you don't get volunteers. And that's why we're out there as master recyclers at every event we can be at to educate the public about composting. [25:56] Eric: Y and and we certain we certainly appreciate the work that all of the volunteers do across the city of Apple Valley. And since we're talking parks and recreation, specifically in the park and recreation system. So [26:10] Patrick Luke: I'm talking of engaging a city here. I'm not talking about having a few volunteers. I'm talking about any park you live by. Take ownership. Well, do what you can. [26:22] Eric: Yeah. We we als we also have an adopt a park program that we coordinate through our department. And so different groups, neighborhoods, associations, cub scout groups, girl scout groups, etc. adopt parks in our park system. And I want to say that all of our parks have been adopted by a group. and and there's a set of um guidelines for for the adopt a park program that people are supposed to go out and you know help clean up the park a couple different times during the year and then if that group is got a lot of little bit of energy and they want to do another project we'll certainly work with them to help them accomplish that project. [26:56] Committee Member: Yes. And that is something too that I'll say like I've asked when Sam's come to present the Alamagnet plan um to us and as we've talked about other projects in the parks that I want to highlight volunteer opportunities to get people involved because I'm very much aligned that learning and education and getting involved is important. Yes. So, I would say it's um it's something that at least I personally am paying attention to as a member of the committee and will continue to do so to try and [27:34] Patrick Luke: I see there's an extensive amount of work to be done and I feel as if there's not enough parks workers to get it done. I I expressed this at the proposal meeting they had down at Sunset Park in the spring as we looked around at the trees with dead branches children. And as I brought that up, they did come in in the summer and clear out all that dead area, which was great. But I told them the people that are mowing the lawn for the park should be able to see those things. It doesn't need to be pointed out by the city, the public. We feel as if we're not involved. Yeah, we see stuff and call you. That isn't involvement. It's it's education. We need to educate people on how to take care of parks. That's all I have. [28:20] Chair: Okay. Thanks, Patrick. Thank you. All right. Um I assume that takes care of everyone that wanted to speak with us tonight. So uh we will be moving on. Uh the first agenda item is uh approve uh department fee schedule for 2025 all divisions. We [28:51] Romans: need to approve the minutes. [28:54] Chair: Huh? Number four. Right. We should do it in numerical order, shouldn't we? Thank you, Romans. All right. um approval of the August 2025 minutes. Uh has everyone received a copy and had a chance to look at those minutes and changes that anyone sees should be made? Hearing none, I would look for a motion to approve the uh minutes from the August 2025 minutes as printed. [29:28] Craig: Make a motion to approve the August 2025 minutes. [29:32] Noel: Second. [29:33] Chair: Motion from Craig and a second by Noel. Uh all those in favor signify by saying I. [29:41] Committee Members: I. [29:43] Chair: Any opposed? Uh that carries. Now we will go on to approve the department fees schedule for 2026. [29:52] Eric: Okay, members of the committee, you have the proposed fees as a part of your packet for all of the different divisions within parks and recreation, which includes the community center, recreation, athletics, the golf course, ice arena, etc. the uh aquatic center, redwood, etc. Um the fees in some cases have been increased based on market, based on increasing costs, uh based on improvements we made at certain facilities and some are staying the same again based on market and what we feel is a reasonable uh fee to charge for whatever the program or service might be. Um so if you have any questions or concerns about any of the fees, please let us know. Otherwise, this will be put on the city council's agenda for their review and approval on the uh November 25th's 25th uh m uh agenda. [30:49] Committee Member: Uh any discussion or any questions? Uh, one question that I had that we didn't um that I didn't mention during the informal is when uh Redwood Pool reopens, is the plan going to be that the season pass for Splash Valley continues to only be usable at Splash Valley, or would you be able to use that at Redwood? I'm thinking Redwood's much closer to my house and when the inclusive playground opens, I'm sure my daughter will enjoy going there and if we go there, she's probably going to want to go to the pool as well. Um, given that the Splash Valley entry fee is higher than Redwood, it would make sense to me that there'd be some sort of ability to pay for the main pass and use that at either place. But I don't know if if that's been discussed or if they're reasons we would or would not consider that. Um, [31:37] Eric: Mr. Chair, members of committee, at this time the plan is that the season pass at Splash Valley is good only for Splash Valley. Um, we do not have a proposed season pass for Redwood. We do have 10 punch pass, daily admission, etc. U, but the pass for Splash Valley would be exclusive to Splash Valley. [32:17] Committee Member: Is there a specific reason we would keep that exclusive or is that just not something that we've looked into? [32:25] Eric: Well, they're they're two separate facilities um that have different um operating structures. Um at a minimum, I would suggest that we get at least a year under our belts with the with the new Redwood. Um, and it possibly it's something we can think about for the future. [32:45] Committee Member: Okay. Yeah, I think it'd be good to consider, but I'm fully on board with getting the pool open and seeing how it goes, you know, first. But, [32:55] Dave: and the the fees are reflected. I mean, the 10 admission card for a resident is proposed is 62 for Redwood. What is it? 98 for Big Bull Aquatic Center. [33:14] Committee Member: But Redwood's only open for like four hours a day. [33:18] Dave: Well, right. And my thought is if you're paying it, it may require adjustment or change. [33:27] Committee Member: But my thought is if I'm paying more for the larger pool anyways, like I'm not trying to pay for the 10 punch pass at Rudwood and use that at Splash Valley. It's the opposite, right? I'm trying to pay the higher fee but still be able to use what's essentially the closer neighborhood. [33:43] Dave: Got it. I was looking at it both. [33:46] Committee Member: Yeah. No, I I wouldn't expect that you could buy a pass to Redwood and use that at Splash Valley. I'm thinking if I, you know, buy the bigger pass, is there a way to make that usable at either location? [34:01] Chair: Yeah, I agree with Eric though. Let's get numbers. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we can revisit it in a year. You know, I think that would be a probably a good idea. Maybe there's a super pass next year. It's rolled out to Burnsville. All right. Uh, next up is to approve the 2026 meeting schedule. Has everyone had a chance to [34:33] Dave: We need We need to approve this. [34:37] Chair: Huh? We need to approve this schedule for presentation to the council. I think so. [34:42] Eric: Mr. Chairman, members of the committee. So So you didn't you had a conversation about the fees, but you didn't uh take a motion, a second, and vote on the fees. [34:52] Dave: Fees. I make a motion that we uh approve the fees and recommend that they be presented to the council. [35:01] Chair: All right. I have a motion, Dave, and I have a second from Craig. All those in favor signify by saying I I opposed. That passes. Thank you. You appreciate the help. We will now however move on to approving the 2026 meeting schedule. Um everyone's had that I assume. Actually, I haven't. I printed out my packet and I don't I don't have [35:36] Eric: m Mr. Chair, members of the comm Mr. Chair, members of the committee. So, just just a reminder by by city ordinance, the committee's only respon only required to meet five months out of the year, January, March, May, September, and November. For the last couple years, we've made it a practice to establish a meeting for every month of the year. And the reason we've suggested that is because of the referendum. We've had a lots to talk about and a lot of things for the committee to provide feedback and and recommendations on. It's easier for us to cancel a meeting that's been scheduled than it is to schedule a meeting than ha to add a meeting that hasn't been previously scheduled. So, we're recommending that we again for 26 have a have a meeting scheduled for every month of the year with the understanding that if we don't have any agenda items, we'll just cancel it. And that's just easier to do than creating a meeting that wasn't planned. [36:23] Chair: Yeah, I think it's important that we have monthly meetings. I mean, when we had five meetings before, it left too much time in between. I mean, we would go from June till September with no meeting and so I think this is a good schedule. [36:51] Dave: Yeah, I'll make a motion that we approve the meeting schedule presented to the committee. [36:57] Jess: Second. [36:58] Chair: All right, I have a motion from Dave. Second from Jess. Yes. Okay. All those in favor signify by saying I. [37:06] Committee Members: I. [37:09] Chair: Anyone opposed? And that passes unanimously. All right. Right. If I have my numbers right, I think we're on number six. Uh and that is committee staff discussion items. [37:25] Eric: Not um again committee members, obviously most of you participated in the tour that we had this earlier this evening of the Hayes uh athletic complex. Um and we invited some community members, athletic people to uh to go on that tour with us. I think everyone was pleasantly surprised and of the project and you know what it's going to bring to the community. Um earlier at the informal we did a overview and we kind of did a recap of where all the different projects are at and what we're planning for in 2026. Other than that we uh as staff we'd stand and answer any questions that committee members may have. [38:00] Committee Member: Any questions from anyone? I thought it looked great. I was very impressed with the lighting. [38:10] Chair: I was very pleasantly surprised by the lighting, I was uh concerned how that would play out, but when the lights were on and it was phenomenal. So, it's pretty slick. [38:22] Committee Member: Good to see the turnout. It'll look even better when we get grass. [38:28] Chair: That's true. And people. Oh, yeah. That true. All right. Uh number seven is input from committee members on the next agenda. Any committee members have any input on anything we would like to taken a look at? This is our time to do what we be doing. Um, hey, it's the only one I I'd like to uh comment on the update on the joint powers agreement. I know we've had a lot of discussions on that and um wondering if we could at least get a just a list of the three or five or four joint powers agreements that exist. Not at this point. I know there's a few in progress, but if we could at least get just a a list of is it three, is it five, is it whatever in which the parks have a uh a say in some some type of a JPA. [39:31] Eric: Mr. Chair, members of committee in December, we'll provide an update with regards to JPA. Um, we have a meeting with the school district next Friday in regards to the East View um Johnny Cake JPA. I don't know that we'll be done with it per se, but we'll be able to give you an update on that and the other ones that we have in place. Just honestly just haven't had time to, you know, dig into it and be able to put together a report, but we will in December. [39:57] Chair: Yeah. And I don't think it needs to be a report. Just no. Well, we'll we'll report on it. It won't be great detail, but it'll give you a broad overview as you as you requested. Where what are they? What are they about? And where do they stand? [40:15] Committee Member: Great. I would love it if somebody would reach out to the disc golfers and as promised get some volunteers from them or remind them that they offered volunteer. [40:24] Eric: We'll do. [40:27] Committee Member: And then just the only thing that I'd say is um I'm sure you've got it down, but just the parking issue that we discussed earlier should be added, but the only other thing I'd have that and park facility fund will add to the list of things that we need to keep in a forefront of our minds. [40:48] Committee Member: Mr. Chairman, I'm I've been interested in the Youth Athletic Association conversation. I think it's less about the relationships because as evidenced tonight, you got great relationships with your with your groups. I think as we become more sophisticated in the way we manage our evolving space and that being fairly new space that we want to protect, I think it's important to understand how we're working together with our customers or those that access our space to make sure the fields are rotated and our ecosystems protected. Uh I think there's been some other great things that have happened. you'll see an AED machine from, you know, one one athletic association. It's not an Apple Valley or an East View, but it's just there. So, I think there's been just a lot of cool stuff that's gone on through those relationships. And I don't know if that brings more clarity to that bullet, but you know, it's it's I like to see and I think that the public likes to see how relationships are, you know, working together to make sure that we're protecting our assets and taking care. I don't know if that helps, but that's my [41:48] Chair: So, do we need to do anything more on that? [41:51] Committee Member: I I think just I haven't I haven't seen It's Nick, right? I don't think I was Nick there tonight. [42:02] Eric: Nick Nick was not there tonight. He's um on a little hunting trip for him, but I don't know. [42:08] Committee Member: I just Yeah, we didn't see him at the annual, so I think that's why that's sticking around. I'd love to see Nick sometime in the next year. See how he's doing. [42:16] Chair: Um so we can take that off of the list or [42:19] Committee Member: I'd say keep it on. I think it's uh unless you guys leave it on. [42:25] Chair: What What do we need to do? Happy I'm I'm happy to come back at the next meeting with some more thoughts. But I think you know I would love to hear from and encourage our association leaderships to join us here. Okay. And to you know whether we ask them to or not you know share their experiences or we as a city doing what we can to support those those institutions and go back and forth. Are they doing what we're asking them to do as well? Oh great. just trying to get these cleaned up and so um and then volunteer opportunities. Was that you Craig that had that on there? [43:03] Craig: Yeah. [43:05] Chair: Um I think I would like it to remain as a as a future item at least so it stays kind of on the forefront. I think that as work takes place in uh Alam Magagnet, there's going to be more opportunities as as we discussed for people to volunteer clearing, planting, getting involved in some in those sort of things. So, I think it would be uh premature to take that off at this point given that those projects are yet to really kind of get moving forward. Um but they will be soon. So, um, but yeah, I I I think that, um, obviously we've talked about the importance of creating and having these opportunities and broadcasting that we have these opportunities. I think that that's an ongoing thing, but I think especially as the uh, restoration work in Outlet Magnet gets going. I think that that's kind of a really nice opportunity to try and and get some people involved. So yeah, [44:09] Committee Member: and I think that ties in with what Patrick was suggesting here to the committee as well. So how do you feel about on the agenda? We have a space for hot volunteer items of the month. I mean, it's going to change every month. [44:28] Chair: Yeah, I think if there's Yeah, I think that that's that's fine. I I uh I think that that would certainly be helpful. The only thing is I I hesitate to add yet another thing to our staff's workload at this moment, but you know, I mean, we've got a lot of things going, but I think that would be great if that's something that we could do that we could highlight volunteer opportunities. Sounds like we have a volunteer coordinating person. [45:24] Committee Member: Well, yeah. I mean, if we can highlight opportunities as part of our our discussions in the uh formal meetings, I think that that would even help get ahead of that by by raising awareness ahead of time. So, that would be Yeah, that'd be fine by me. Um, I don't know if we're able to do that or or when we'd be able to start that, but that would be wonderful. [45:46] Chair: Um, any other items that anyone would like to see your agenda? Nothing. Good. Are you making a motion to close until I ask her? before you asked for it. Oh, now you're asking for it. Well, looking at the clock, we are at that time where uh if a particular member would like to make a particular motion, I might be able to accommodate that. So, make a motion. Anyone care to make a motion for adjournment? I'll spell it out. [46:25] Dave: So, moved. [46:27] Noel: I'll second. [46:28] Chair: We have a motion from Dave and Noel seconded. Okay. All those in favor, please signify by saying I. [46:38] Committee Members: I. [46:40] Chair: Anyone opposed? Didn't think so. This meeting is adjourned. Thank you very much everyone. [47:10] Speaker 1: Hey. Hey.