[ ♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪ ] >> Mayor Guajardo: GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. WELCOME TO CITY HALL AND TO OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THIS MORNING OUR INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY REVEREND JAMES AMERSON WITH FIRST METHODIST CHURCH. REVEREND. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS JAMES AMERSON AND I AM A NEW RESIDENT OF CORPUS CHRISTI. >> Mayor Guajardo: WELCOME. >> I'VE JOINED THE CITY COMING FROM SAN ANTONIO ON JULY 1 TO SERVE AS THE SENIOR PASTOR OF FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH AND IT IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO OFFER PRAYER ON BEHALF OF THIS CITY. I STARTED A SERMON SERIES WITH MY STAFF ENTITLED "GET ON BOARD" AND IT COMES FROM JEREMIAH 29:7 WHERE IT SAYS SEEK THE PEACE AND PROSPERITY OF THE CITY IN WHICH YOU RESIDE BECAUSE ITS PROSPERITY WILL BE THE PEACE AND PROSPERITY OF ALL ITS RESIDENTS. WE HAVE BEEN PRAYING FOR THIS CITY, MY CITY, OUR CITY TOGETHER. AND TODAY IT IS OUR HONOR TO COME AND TO OFFER THIS PRAYER. SHALL WE PRAY? [PHONE RINGING] >> THAT'S NOT A PART OF MY PRAYER. [LAUGHTER] GOD, AS WE TAKE A MOMENT TO REFLECT ON THE IMPORTANT WORK, OUR COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY, CORPUS CHRISTI, WE EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE FOR THE DEDICATION, DILIGENCE, AND COMPASSION OF OUR MAYOR, PAULETTE GUAJARDO, AND FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE COME BEFORE YOU WITH HUMBLE HEARTS, SEEKING TO EMBODY YOUR LOVE AND KINDNESS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. HELP US TO BE INSTRUMENTS OF PEACE AND JUSTICE, REFLECTING YOUR LIGHT IN A WORLD OFTEN CLOUDED BY DIVISION AND STRIFE. ENCOURAGE US TO ACT WITH COMPASSION TO THOSE IN NEED AND TO ADVOCATE FOR MARGINALIZED, TO PROMOTE HEALING, RECONCILIATION, AND UNDERSTANDING AS YOU INSPIRE US TO STAND AGAINST INJUSTICE AND TO LIFT UP THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SILENCED. SOVEREIGN GOD, GRANT US THE COURAGE TO LOVE WITHOUT RESERVATION, TO FORGIVE AS WE HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN. TO DO GOOD, TO DO NO HARM, AND TO STAY IN LOVE WITH YOU. MAY WE APPROACH OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH WISDOM AND UNITY OF PURPOSE, STRIVING ALWAYS TO SERVE THE GREATER GOOD AND TO ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE THAT BRIDGES GAPS. AS WE WORK TOWARDS SOCIAL HOLINESS, THE PRACTICE OF GROWING IN HOLINESS IN A COMMUNITY NOT IN ISOLATION BUT EMPHASIZING A NEED SO BROTHERLY AND SISTERLY FELLOWSHIP, ACCOUNTABILITY AND MUTUAL SUPPORT. EMPOWER US TO BE A COMMUNITY ROOTED IN LOVE, HOPE, AND FAITH. LET OUR LIVES REFLECT YOUR TEACHINGS AND MAY OUR COMMITMENT TO JUSTICE AND SERVICE BRING GLORY TO YOUR NAME. WE STRIVE IN DIVERSITY, STRENGTHEN INCLUSION, AND EQUITY IN ACTION AS WE HONOR EVERYONE OF YOUR CREATION. HOLY GOD, LET US BE REMINDED OF THE IMPACT OF OUR DECISIONS TODAY, THAT WE ARE MADE IN YOUR IMAGE AND THAT IN OUR DECISIONS WE MAY OFFER PEACE AND PROSPERITY FOR YOUR CITY. WE PRAY IN THE BLESSED NAME OF THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, AMEN. >> Mayor Guajardo: AMEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH, REVEREND. AND WELCOME TO CORPUS CHRISTI. YES SIR. TODAY OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAGS OF THE UNITED STATES AND TO THE TEXAS STATE FLAG WILL BE LED BY ELLA THERESE GARCIA. SHE'S A 12th GRADER AT ST. JOHN PAUL II. SHE HAS A VERY BIG HEART. SHE COORDINATED THE SPECIAL HEARTS VALENTINE DANCE FOR SPECIAL NEEDS STUDENTS. SHE HAD A BIG ROLE IN THAT. AND SHE IS A STATE AND REGIONAL QUALIFIER FOR THE TRACK 400 AND 800-METER. >> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] >> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. [HONORING THE TEXAS FLAG] >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, ELLA. GOOD LUCK IN YOUR STUDIES. MS. HUERTA, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? [ROLL CALL] >> City Secretary: MS. VAUGHN ABSENT. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, A QUORUM OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE REQUIRED CHARTER OFFICERS ARE PRESENT TO CONDUCT THE MEETING. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MS. HUERTA. BEFORE I BEGIN TODAY'S MEETING, I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ADDRESS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS IS A PLACE OF PUBLIC BUSINESS, A FORUM OR CIVIC DISCUSSION, DECISION MAKING AND SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF CORPUS CHRISTI. IT IS NOT A STAGE FOR PERSONAL ATTACKS DISRUPTIONS OR VULGARITY AND WE WILL NOT TOLERATE VIOLATIONS OF DECORUM. THERE HAVE BEEN REPEATED INSTANCES OF INDIVIDUALS USING PROFANITY, SHOUTING OVER OTHERS, AND SHOWING DISREGARD FOR THE RULES THAT GOVERN OUR PROCEEDINGS. I HAVE ALLOWED SPACE FOR DIFFERING VIEWPOINTS AND I WILL CONTINUE TO WELCOME RESPECTFUL DISAGREEMENT BUT WILL NOT ALLOW THIS COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC WE SERVE TO BE DISRESPECTED. WE'RE HERE TO DO THE PEOPLE'S WORK SO LET'S PROCEED IN DOING THAT IN THAT SPIRIT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM DURING ITS DISCUSSION, YOU DO NOT NEED TO SIGN UP BEFOREHAND. I WILL ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS THE ITEM. AT THAT TIME YOU CAN COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND SPEAK. AT THIS TIME I'LL ASK CITY ATTORNEY MILES RISLEY TO REVIEW THE COUNCIL MEETING RULES OF DECORUM. THESE RULES WILL ALSO BE DISPLAYED ON THE TELEVISION SCREENS ABOVE FOR YOUR VIEWING. [RULES OF DECORUM] >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. RISLEY. CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. I'M SORRY. BEFORE THAT, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND THE CITY IN WHICH YOU LIVE BEFORE BEGINNING YOUR COMMENTS. CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES WHILE NON-RESIDENT COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO ONE MINUTE. A VISIBLE TIMER POSITIONED NEAR THE CITY SECRETARY'S DESK WILL HELP MANAGE THAT ALLOTTED TIME. AND IF YOU HAVE A PETITION OR ANY RELEVANT INFORMATION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL, IF YOU'LL PLEASE PRESENT IT TO MS. HUERTA PRIOR TO SPEAKING SHE'LL DISTRIBUTE IT TO US. SO WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO ON -- MS. HUERTA, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT FROM HERE. >> City Secretary: WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS. TODAY WILL BE THE COUNCIL WILL BE MAKING APPOINTMENTS TO THE NUECES COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS. THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES AND THESE INDIVIDUALS WILL BE VOTED UPON BY ALL VOTING ELIGIBLE UNITS OF THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. SO THAT INCLUDES THE CITY. YOU DO HAVE NOMINEES -- THREE NOMINEES -- OR THREE APPLICANTS TO CHOOSE FROM. AND YOU CAN CHOOSE UP TO TWO. MAKE UP TO TWO NOMINATIONS. MAYOR GUAJARDO WILL BE RECUSING HERSELF FROM PARTICIPATING IN THIS ITEM. >> THANK YOU, MS. HUERTA. OPEN FOR NOMINATIONS -- >> City Secretary: SORRY. WE NEED TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT. MY APOLOGIES. >> Scott: ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE NOMINATIONS? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, OPEN NOMINATIONS FOR UP TO TWO PEOPLE. >> City Secretary: CORRECT. >> [OFF MIC] >> [OFF MIC] >> Scott: DEVON BACKTA AND GABBY HILTPOLLED. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? GO AHEAD, GIL. >> Hernandez: REBECCA, LAST TIME WE DID THIS THERE WAS A POINTS SYSTEM ASSOCIATED WITH IT. HOW IS THIS PROCESS DIFFERENT FROM THAT? >> City Secretary: YOU MEAN THE NUMBER OF VOTES ALLOCATED? >> Hernandez: RIGHT. LIKE HOW MANY VOTES WE HAVE AND HOW DO WE ASSIGN THOSE VOTES TO THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS? >> City Secretary: THAT WILL BE DONE WHEN WE DO THE BALLOT PORTION OF IT. THE TOTAL THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE NUECES COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT -- I THINK IT WAS 400. 400 VOTES. IT'S JUST DUE TO THE NUMBER OF VACANCIES. I THINK LAST TIME IT WAS HIGHER. THIS TIME IT'S A LITTLE BIT LOWER BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF VACANCIES. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> Hernandez: YES. HOW IS THE NEXT STEP HERE? KIND OF EXPLAIN IT BECAUSE THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM OUR NORMAL APPOINTMENTS. >> City Secretary: YES, IT IS. >> Hernandez: PLEASE EXPLAIN IT FULLY SO THERE'S NOT ANY CONFUSION. >> City Secretary: TODAY THE COUNCIL WILL BE MAKING THEIR NOMINATIONS AND ALL THE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES WILL ALSO BE DOING -- NOT TODAY BUT THEY'LL BE DOING THE SAME THING, MAKING THEIR NOMINATIONS. THE DEADLINE TO SUBMIT IS OCTOBER 2. AND THEN AFTER THAT, ON OCTOBER 9, NCAD, THE NUECES COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT, THEY'LL DELIVER BALLOTS TO THE CITY AND ALL THE OTHER ENTITIES AS WELL. AND THEN THE COUNCIL, AT THE OCTOBER 14th OR THE 21st COUNCIL MEETING, THEN YOU WOULD APPROVE A RESOLUTION TO ALLOCATE VOTES ON THE BALLOT. SO THOSE 436 VOTES THAT YOU HAVE, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS YOU CHOOSE TO VOTE FOR, YOU WOULD GIVE THEM ALL TO ONE PERSON. YOU WOULD SPLIT IT BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE. WHATEVER WAS DECIDED. AND ON THAT BALLOT, IT'S A FULL BALLOT, INCLUDING THE NOMINEES FROM OTHER ENTITIES AS WELL. SO IT WOULD BE A FULL BALLOT INCLUDING THAT INFORMATION. OCTOBER 21st, THAT'S THE LATEST DATE TO PASS THAT RESOLUTION. SO THEN ON THE 24th, WE WOULD RETURN THE BALLOT RESOLUTION TO THE NUECES COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND THEN ON DECEMBER 5 THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT WOULD SEND VOTING RESULTS TO THE ENTITIES. SO IT IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM OTHER APPOINTMENTS. >> Hernandez: THANK YOU, REBECCA. SO WE'LL SEE THIS AGAIN NEXT MONTH. >> City Secretary: YES, SIR. >> Hernandez: THANK YOU. >> Scott: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ALL RIGHT. I'LL CLOSE NOMINATIONS. WE GET TO VOTE ON EACH. WE GET UP TO TWO? ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPOINT? >> Barrera: I MOVE TO APPOINT. >> Roy: SECOND. >> City Secretary: WE'LL BE APPROVING A RESOLUTION. THIS IS A MOTION TO NOMINATE. LET'S MAKE THAT MOTION -- WELL, ACTUALLY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PASS THE RESOLUTION, INCLUDING THESE TWO NOMINEES. LET'S DO THAT. SO THE TWO NOMINEES ARE BHATKA AND HILLPOLD. >> Scott: AND THERE'S A SECOND. DO YOU WANT A VOICE VOTE? >> City Secretary: I JUST DIDN'T PUT THE NOMINEES IN BUT I CAN DO THAT REAL QUICKLY. ARE YOU READY? >> Scott: I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THE MAYOR'S POSITION. YOU REALIZE THAT'S ME, NOT HER, SITTING HERE? I'M GOING TO VOTE AYE. DO YOU WANT ME TO GO TO MY CHAIR TO VOTE AYE? >> City Secretary: NO. >> Scott: JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. >> City Secretary: AND THAT'S EVERYBODY? ALL RIGHT. AND THEN MR. CANTU? >> Cantu: AYE. >> City Secretary: CAN WE SEE YOU? THERE YOU GO. PERFECT. SO THAT'S SEVEN AND OF COURSE MAYOR GUAJARDO RECUSED. THAT'S ACTUALLY COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT, MAYOR PRO TEM SCOTT. THE REVOLUTION PASSES. >> Scott: THANK YOU. TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE MAYOR. THE MAYOR WANTS TO CONFIRM IT REFLECTED HER NAME BUT MY VOTE, HER SEAT. >> Mayor Guajardo: CONFIRM, SOMEBODY? WE'RE GOING TO GO DO SECTION H AND THAT IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 2 THROUGH 24. ANY REQUESTS TO PULL ANY ITEMS? I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO PULL A FEW MYSELF. ITEM NO. -- JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON 16, 17, 22, AND 22. YEAH. THAT'S IT. COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL? >> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> City Secretary: WE ALSO NEED TO PULL 2 BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE APPROVING THE MINUTES FOR THE 9th. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THEM. ON ITEM NO. 2 -- MA'AM? I'M SORRY? >> Mayor Guajardo: WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? >> City Secretary: I'M SAYING ON ITEM NO. 2 THAT WE WANT TO PULL THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE APPROVING THE SEPTEMBER 9th MEETING. >> Mayor Guajardo: 23? WE HAVE ITEM NO. 2. WE HAVE 16, 17, 22, I THINK. >> City Secretary: I HAVE 22. >> Mayor Guajardo: GIL, YOU HAVE 23? 23. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND -- I'M SORRY. PUBLIC COMMENT. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE -- >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: NO. 6? SO NOW WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. REBECCA, YOU HAVE THOSE PULLED? >> City Secretary: YES, MA'AM, I DO. ARE YOU READY? >> Mayor Guajardo: PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. OKAY. SO ITEM -- >> City Secretary: HOLD ON. MR. CANTU? >> Cantu: AYE. >> Mayor Guajardo: THE MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 16. DO WE HAVE STAFF? 16 AND 17. REALLY, SAME QUESTION. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JUAN RIVERA, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF ASSET MANAGEMENT. >> Mayor Guajardo: YES, JUAN. THANK YOU. I PULLED THESE ITEMS. BOTH OF THESE ITEMS ARE PURCHASES OF 16 -- ITEM 16 IS 14 ADDITIONAL VEHICLES. ITEM 17 IS 54 REPLACEMENT VEHICLES AND 10 ADDITIONAL. THE THING I WAS WONDERING OR THAT I NOTICED IS ON BOTH THERE ARE SEVERAL VEHICLES WHICH REQUIRE UPFITTING. I DO UNDERSTAND WE'RE TALKING ON ONE OF THEM, F-550s. THOSE ARE HUGE VEHICLES AND I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE WELDING EQUIPMENT, CRANES, WHAT HAVE YOU. THE VEHICLE ITSELF IS $66,000. THE UPFITTING IS $126,000. MY QUESTION IS -- I RECOGNIZE THERE'S A COST FOR THAT, LIKE POLICE CARS AND FIRE CARS AND ALL OF THAT . BUT WHEN WE BUY FROM WHOMEVER IT IS ON THE BUYBOARD, DO THEY, IN THAT CONTRACT, HAVE THAT AUTHORITY TO SUBCONTRACT OUT THE UPFITTING? AND, IF SO -- I'M THINKING THE ANSWER IS YES TO THAT. DO WE HAVE -- DO THEY JUST HAND US AN INVOICE THAT SAYS HERE'S $126,000 FOR THE UPFITTING? OR IS THERE ANY KIND OF COMPETITIVE BIDDING IN THAT? >> MAYOR, YES. SO THEY DO HAND US A BREAKDOWN OF EVERY UPFITTING COST AND WE DO GET A SEPARATE INVOICE FROM THE VEHICLE. WE DO HAVE AN INVOICE THAT HAS THE WHOLE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THAT INVOICE IS GOING TO BE FOR THE UPFITTING. IT ALL COMES FROM THE BUYBOARD. >> Mayor Guajardo: BUT LIKE THE PERSON WHO IS SELLING US THE VEHICLE DOESN'T DO THE UPFITTING. THEY SEND IT OUT. >> THEY SEND IT OUT. >> Mayor Guajardo: DO WE HAVE ANY AUTHORITY OR OVERSIGHT OVER THAT OR WE WORK WITH THESE PEOPLE AND THAT IS THE CHARGE? >> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. I'LL BRING UP MY ASSISTANT, RUSSELL DEAN, TO ANSWER THAT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. RUSSELL DEAN. I'M WITH THE FLEET. THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS IT'S KIND OF A PIPELINE-TYPE PROCESS. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE SOME SAY IN WHERE WE GET THE UPFITTING DONE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE OVERCHARGED FOR THE UPFITTING. THERE'S MULTIPLE INCIDENTS THAT WE GO THROUGH TO GET THESE VEHICLES. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WE'RE ALWAYS USING THE SAME PERSON FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE UPFITTINGS. IT IS A COMPETITIVE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT UPFITTING IS DONE. >> Mayor Guajardo: SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT CLOSELY. THAT WAS MY -- THAT'S THE CONCERN IS THEY ARE TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND WE KNOW UPFITTING IS A HUGE EXPENSE BUT WHEN IT'S SUBBED OUT, I WAS CONCERNED WITH HOW MUCH AUTHORITY OR HOW MUCH OVERSIGHT WE HAVE ON THOSE COSTS. >> YES, MA'AM. FULL OVERSIGHT. >> YES, MAYOR. YOU DID MENTION SOMETHING I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT. AND IT WAS THE ACTUAL VEHICLES AND HOW BIG THEY ARE. WHEN YOU START DOING THE UPFITTING, YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE MAX GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT RATIO. BY STATE LAW, ONCE YOU START UPFITTING THESE VEHICLES, THEY DO WEIGH A LOT MORE AND IT'S UNSAFE FOR THE ROADS WHEN YOU START PILING UP A LOT OF WEIGHT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO INCREASE INTO LARGER VEHICLES. >> Mayor Guajardo: I APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING THAT. THERE WAS SO MUCH DETAIL IN THESE ITEMS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD. ITEM 16 AND 17. HE'S WAITING ON AN ITEM, I THINK. YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS ONE? SO DO YOU? COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. >> Hernandez: OKAY. ONE OF THE ISSUES HERE IS THAT WE DON'T SEE WHAT YOUR TOTAL FLEET IS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, WE JUST SEE YOU COMING AND ASKING FOR SCISSOR LIFTS AND VEHICLES. BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE GOING IN, HOW MANY ARE GOING OUT. WHAT THE CONDITION OF THOSE VEHICLES ARE, WHY YOU'RE ASKING FOR MORE. I GUESS THE NEXT TIME YOU BRING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BRING WHAT WE'RE REPLACING AND WHY. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY AND ALL THESE -- IT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR THESE VEHICLES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE'RE FITTING A NEED AND NOT A WANT. >> YES, COUNCIL MEMBER. I THINK WE HAVE THAT INCLUDED IN THE EXHIBITS CURRENTLY. >> Hernandez: OKAY. >> COUNCIL MEMBER, ONE OF THE THINGS TO LOOK AT, AS YOU SAID, IS WHY WE'RE REPLACING IT. WHY THE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO REPLACE IS IN YOUR PACKET. I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS MORE OF ARE WE GETTING THE FULL USE OF THE VEHICLE THAT WE'RE REPLACING. SOME OF THE EXAMPLES I HAVE THAT I CAN GIVE YOU ARE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR GAS DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE A VEHICLE THAT WE PURCHASED IN 2014 $95,000. WE SPENT $73,000 IN MAINTENANCE FOR THE VEHICLE SINCE THAT TIME. MOST OF THESE VEHICLES FALL IN THAT CATEGORY. WE PURCHASED THEM FOR A CERTAIN PRICE AND WE HAVE ALREADY GONE UP TO OVER 70% OF THE PURCHASED VALUE TO MAINTAIN THOSE VEHICLES OVER THE YEARS AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BEING REPLACED. >> Hernandez: OKAY. WELL, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VEHICLES AND WHERE ARE THEY ASSIGNED TO? WE HAVE DIFFERENT WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITIES AND WE HAVE VARIOUS LIFT STATIONS. BUT ARE THESE ASSIGNED TO SPECIFIC LOCATIONS? >> AS IN DEPARTMENTS OR IN ACTUAL -- >> Hernandez: NO, NO. ACTUAL USE. WHERE IS THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF EQUIPMENT GOING TO BE USED AT? >> GOT YOU. THAT I DON'T HAVE IN THE PACKET THERE AS FAR AS WHERE IN THE CITY THAT WE GO TO AS FAR AS SPECIFIC LOCATION THROUGHOUT THE CITY NO SIR. >> Hernandez: BECAUSE YOU HAVE THIS GENIE MAN LIFT AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE A SCISSOR LIFT HERE AS WELL. I MEAN... >> WESLEY NEBGEN, DIRECTOR OF CCW. THERE IS A TABLE INSIDE THE PACKET THAT GIVES AN EXPLANATION OF THE ONES ASSIGNED DIRECTLY TO INDIVIDUAL PLANTS. IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE TRUCKS, THE CRANE TRUCKS, THINGS LIKE THAT, EXPLAINS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE USED, LIKE ON THE LIFT STATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT. AS FAR AS THE SCISSOR LIFT, THOSE WILL BE UTILIZED THROUGHOUT ALL THE PLANTS. THOSE ARE USED ON CABLE TRACE, OVERAHEAD LIGHTING, THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE AT ALL TREATMENT PLANS INCLUDING LIFT STATIONS. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY ARE LOWERED INTO LIFT STATIONS, INTO DRY WELLS AND LIFT STATIONS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, 30, 40 FEET DEEP SO YOU CAN WORK ON OVERHEAD WORK ON THE LIFT STATIONS AS WELL. THEY ARE UTILIZED THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM. >> Hernandez: HOW MANY SCISSOR LIFTS DO YOU HAVE? >> NONE. >> Hernandez: THERE'S NO SCISSOR LIFTS AT ALL? >> NO. WE RENT THEM. >> Hernandez: SO WHAT'S BEEN THE ISSUE WITH RENTING? IS IT EXCEEDING THE COST OF WHAT IT WOULD BE TO PURCHASE ONE? >> IT IS. BETWEEN THE LEAD TIMES TO GET IT THERE TO THE SITES AND BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE IT AND MOBILIZE IT WHEN WE DO NEED IT, IT'S MORE COST-EFFECTIVE FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND PURCHASE ONE OF THESE TO HAVE IT AVAILABLE. AS WITH ALL OF THIS EQUIPMENT. WE DID A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS ON ALL OF THIS BEFORE WE WENT -- THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT RENTING SOME EQUIPMENT STILL. WE WILL CONTINUE TO RENT SOME EQUIPMENT. IT ONLY MAKES SENSE BECAUSE OF THE COST. BUT IN THESE PARTICULAR CASES, IT MAKES MORE SENSE FOR US TO PURCHASE. >> Hernandez: DO YOU HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO MAINTENANCE THIS OR IS IT GOING TO BE CONTRACTED OUT? HOW MANY SCISSOR LIFTS DO WE HAVE IN THE CITY? WE HAVE NO SCISSOR LIFTS WHATSOEVER IN THE CITY? >> [OFF MIC] THE MAINTENANCE ON THAT EQUIPMENT WILL BE CONTRACTED OUT. WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY IN-HOUSE TO MAINTAIN THOSE. >> Hernandez: AND THESE ARE GOING TO BE WHERE? WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE THESE? OBVIOUSLY -- IS IT GOING TO BE -- WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THESE. >> THE SCISSOR LIFTS, NORMALLY THEY WILL BE HOUSED AT OSO. THAT HAS THE MOST NEED FOR IT. OSO AND BROADWAY PLANT IS WHERE MOST OF THE NEED IS FOR THE SCISSOR LIFT. THAT'S GOING TO BE WHERE THEY'LL BE STORED. >> Hernandez: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: JUAN, BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION. OR THE UPFITTING. >> YES, MA'AM. >> Mayor Guajardo: SO DO WE -- AND I GUESS I WOULD SUGGEST -- I DON'T KNOW AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST NOT INCLUDED HERE. BUT ALSO THE MARKUP IS WORRISOME. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. >> THE 10% CONTINGENCY. >> Mayor Guajardo: NO, THE MARKUP ON THE UPFITTING. THE $126,000, FOR EXAMPLE. >> YES, MA'AM. >> Mayor Guajardo: I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF YOU DON'T ALREADY LOOK AT THAT MARKUP -- AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A HUGE MARKET FOR UPFITTING. PROBABLY NOT. THERE'S PROBABLY LESS THAN A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE. >> SPECIALIZED SHOPS. >> Mayor Guajardo: RIGHT. BUT I THINK IF THERE IS A MARKUP THAT IS 50, 60% VERSUS 30%, LET'S JUST SAY. I HAVE NO IDEA. I WOULD THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN NEGOTIATE. AND I DON'T KNOW. THIS ISN'T ABOUT -- I APPRECIATE THE DETAIL Y'ALL PUT IN THIS ITEM, BECAUSE YOU REALLY CROSSED EVERY T HERE. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN YOU SEE AN UPFITTING CHARGE THAT IS TWICE THE COST OF THE VEHICLE -- AND I UNDERSTAND WHY, THE EQUIPMENT. IT'S JUST ABOUT PROTECTING THE TAXPAYER DOLLAR AND MAKING CERTAIN THAT THIS TYPE OF OVERSIGHT, YOU KNOW, HELPS TO BUILD TRUST, PUBLIC TRUST IN EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE'RE SPENDING. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU GUYS LOOK AT THE MARKUP AND SEE HOW YOU COULD POSSIBLY MAYBE NEGOTIATE THAT DOWN IF, IN FACT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS TOO HIGH. >> YES, MAYOR. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT. >> Mayor Guajardo: I APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON. >> Paxson: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL START REAL QUICK. PETER, I ASSUME THAT WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT, THE MARKUP, ALL OF THESE ENHANCEMENTS THAT THESE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT NEED, YOU'RE BASICALLY BUYING THE BASIC STRUCTURE OF THE EQUIPMENT ON A LOT OF THESE SERVICE -- AND THEY'RE VERY SPECIFIC TO THE TASK YOU'RE BUYING THEM FOR AND SO YOU HAVE TO VERY SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY WHAT TOOLKITS AND WHAT TOOL SETS HAVE TO GO ON THERE. I DIDN'T SEE ANY FLASHY LOGOS AND WRAPS, SO IT IS BARE MINIMUM TO THE JOB. THAT'S WHAT PUTS US IN THIS NICHE WHERE DO WE GET IT AND HOW MUCH DOES IT COST. >> Zanoni: THAT'S CORRECT. >> Paxson: PERFECT. THANK YOU. MY NEXT QUESTION. SINCE WE ARE PROCURING EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVEN'T TYPICALLY HAD, DO WE HAVE THE TRAINING AND THE TRAILERS TO CART? DO WE HAVE -- COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT ON STORAGE. I KNOW WE WERE BUILDING A FAIRLY ROBUST CCW FACILITY. DO WE HAVE A PLACE TO MAINTAIN THOSE IN INTERIM? >> YES, COUNCILWOMAN. DO WE HAVE THE TRAINING? ABSOLUTELY. I WOULD SAY YES BECAUSE CCW DOES RENT THE SAME EQUIPMENT THEY'RE TRYING TO PURCHASE. THEY KNOW HOW TO OPERATE THAT. DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAINTAIN IT IN-HOUSE? WE DO NOT. THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONTRACTED OUT. OUR MECHANICS DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO MAINTAIN THOSE SCISSOR LIFTS YET. IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD BE LOOKING INTO. CCW AND ASSET MANAGEMENT DO SHARE A WAREHOUSE SO WE DO HAVE HALF AND HALF AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR POSSIBILITIES FOR ASSET MANAGEMENT TO CONSOLIDATE SOME OF OUR STUFF SO WE CAN ALLOW CCW TO HAVE SPACE IN THAT WAREHOUSE. THE EQUIPMENT THEY HOUSE IS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN OURS. >> Paxson: OKAY. PERFECT. SO THEN COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ KIND OF TOUCHED ON IT BUT MY QUESTION WHERE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT INCLUDING LIKE A BREAKDOWN OF THE TOTAL FLEET. FOR ME, WHEN I READ THIS, THROUGHOUT OUR PACKET IT LISTS IN A COUPLE OF PLACES IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS TO GO TO A SPECIFIC FACILITY. BUT OTHER THAN THAT IT IS KIND OF BROAD AND IT WILL JUST KIND OF SAY PER DEPARTMENT. AND IT DOES LIST IS THIS A REPLACEMENT OR IS THIS AN ADDITION TO THE FLEET. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. WHAT I THINK WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR ME, BECAUSE I WANT TO SUPPORT THE DEPARTMENT. AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THIS WORK, ALL OF THESE EQUIPMENT PIECES GO INTO REALLY GOOD AND VERY VALUABLE WORK. BUT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING FOR ME TO INCLUDE IN THAT WHICH SPECIFIC ITEM IS IT REPLACING. KIND OF LIKE HOW WE EXCEEDED THE USEFUL LIFE ON THIS, SO WE'RE BUYING A NEW ONE. OR IS THIS EARMARKED BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE HIRED NEW ROLES IN THE DEPARTMENT AND SO NOW WE NEED NEW EQUIPMENT. IS THIS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD SOME THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY REFERENCING THOSE FACILITIES AND/OR THIS IS UTILIZED AT ALL FACILITIES, THAT KIND OF THING. IF WE COULD SEE SOME OF THOSE. MY BIGGER QUESTION IS OF COURSE I WANT TO GET THE EQUIPMENT WE NEED FOR EVERYBODY. BUT THESE ARE BIG DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO FEEL REALLY COMFORTABLE. I KNOW WE'RE RETIRING SIX TRUCKS BECAUSE THEY'RE COMPLETELY SPENT. I KNOW WHY AND IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T BELIEVE Y'ALL BUT I CAN PIECE TO IT WHY DID WE SAY YES OR NO. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME. >> YES, COUNCILWOMAN. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS. >> Campos: THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THANK YOU FOR ACTUALLY BRINGING THIS. IT DOES MAKE ME THINK ABOUT THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. SINCE WE'RE RENTING -- WE'VE BEEN RENTING SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, NEW -- THESE EQUIPMENT. SO HOW IS IT THAT THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, INSTEAD OF RENTING -- LIKE YOUR DEPARTMENT IS RENTING THIS SKY JACK, SCISSOR LIFT, SOME OF THESE OTHERS. DO WE, AS A CITY -- I MEAN, THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS -- DO WE SHARE SOME OF THESE EQUIPMENT? >> COUNCILWOMAN, FOR DEPARTMENTS, THAT EQUIPMENT IS NOT AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE CITY SO THERE ARE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ALSO RENT EQUIPMENT LOCALLY TO USE FOR SPECIAL PROJECTS. ASSET MANAGEMENT RENTS CRANES. WHEN WE DID THE FIFTH-FLOOR WINDOW, THAT CRANE WAS RENTED BY ASSET MANAGEMENT TO GET THAT IN THERE. THERE'S OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT RENT SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN-HOUSE. SOME OF IT IS VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE. SO RENTING IT, SINCE IT'S LOW USAGE, WE USUALLY JUST PREFER TO RENT THAT INSTEAD OF BUYING IT. CCW, IN THEIR CASE, THEY HAVE HIGH USAGE FOR THE VEHICLES THEY'RE TRYING TO PURCHASE. SO RENTING, FOR THEM, ACTUALLY IS MORE EXPENSIVE. AND THEY HAVE LESS -- NOT AS A QUICK RESPONSE TIME FOR THE JOBS THAT THEY HAVE TO BE ON. >> Zanoni: YEAH, COUNCILWOMAN. TO THE SHARING QUESTION, THE SHARING DOES TAKE PLACE. SOME OF THIS EQUIPMENT IS USED 24/7 BY THE DEPARTMENT, LIKE CCW. BUT IN SOME CASES, WHEN THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE, WE DO DO THAT. SOLID WASTE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. THEY'LL SHARE THEIR REAR-LOADING GARBAGE TRUCKS WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WHEN THERE'S MAJOR BEACH EVENT DAYS. SOME OF THAT DOES HAPPEN. >> THAT'S CORRECT. I WAS REFERENCING THESE VEHICLES. I WAS SAYING WE DON'T SHARE THESE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THEM, BUT ABSOLUTELY. >> Campos: THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO BE CLEAR. BEFORE OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE, YOU KNOW, RENTING, YOU KNOW, OTHER EQUIPMENT THAT WE -- I GUESS WE ARE CHECKING WITH THE ASSET MANAGEMENT. OKAY. SO JUST THANK YOU. >> YES. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. JUAN, IF YOU WILL SEND -- IF YOU DON'T MIND SENDING THAT, THE MARKUP -- >> YES, MA'AM. I WILL. THIS IS THE WHOLE STACK RIGHT HERE. >> Mayor Guajardo: GOOD. GIVE US A LITTLE INFO ON THAT. I KNOW THE MARKET'S SMALL FOR IT BUT I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO A BETTER NEGOTIATING JOB ON THAT. OH, THE OTHER THING IS DOES THIS -- PETER. DO WE HAVE TO HAVE 54 VEHICLES -- ACTUALLY MORE THAN THAT. >> THERE'S 64 TOTAL AND 14 WITH CCW. >> Mayor Guajardo: THOSE ARE SEPARATE ITEMS BUT THOSE 64, DO THEY ALL HAVE TO COME IN ONE BIG -- IT'S JUST A LOT. OR IS THAT THE BEST WAY? >> Zanoni: WE DO ABOUT FOUR BIG BUYS A YEAR. SO A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE DELIVERY, WHEN WE CAN GET THE VEHICLES FROM THE PRODUCTION. SO WE CAN'T JUST GO OUT THERE AND BUY ANYTHING. WE HAVE TO PUT IN AN ORDER AND IT'S USUALLY TELLING US NOW YOU CAN GET YOUR ORDER. >> Mayor Guajardo: IT'S BETTER TO DO IT THIS WAY. >> Scott: IT MAY NOT BE BETTER BUT IT'S HOW THE INDUSTRY WORKS. ONCE WE PLACE OUR ORDER, THESE ARE LONG-LEAD ITEMS. WE WAIT IN LINE. SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AT THE BEHEST OF THE INDUSTRY. >> Mayor Guajardo: JUAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. >> Hernandez: ARE WE DISCUSSING 16 AND 17? >> Mayor Guajardo: YES. >> Hernandez: THE QUESTION I HAD WITH 17, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO DO IT SEPARATELY. 16 IS STRAIGHT OUT PURCHASE FROM THE WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT. EVERYTHING ELSE IS ON THIS LEASE PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE BORROWING MONEY OR EFFECTIVELY BORROWING MONEY TO PURCHASE THESE VEHICLES. IT DOESN'T REALLY STATE AN INTEREST RATE OR -- >> IT DOES. >> Hernandez: MAYBE I MISSED IT. OH 10%. >> NO, THE INTEREST RATE IS 4 POINT -- I'LL GET YOU THAT NUMBER. IT'S ON THE AGENDA ITEM AND IT'S 4.25 IS THE INTEREST RATE ON THOSE LEASED FOR 60 MONTHS. THAT'S ON FISCAL IMPACT. >> Hernandez: YEAH. IT WAS JUST A LARGE ITEM. >> NO WORRIES, SIR. >> Hernandez: FUNDING DETAIL. OKAY. I'LL GET BACK TO THAT. BUT WHY THE DIFFERENCE? I MEAN, YOU HAVE OTHER UTILITIES ON HERE FROM ENTERPRISE FUNDS. HOW IS IT THAT WASTEWATER DID A DIRECT PURCHASE AND THE OTHER ONES WENT THROUGH THIS LEASE PROGRAM? >> I'LL PASS IT OVER TO MY ASSISTANT. >> SIR, I THINK THE ISSUE IS THEY'RE NOT ALL LEASE. JUST THE SOLID WASTE VEHICLES AT THE TOP OF THAT EXHIBIT ARE THE LEASE PURCHASE VEHICLES. THE REST OF THE VEHICLES DOWN THERE ARE FUNDED OUT OF THE [INDISCERNIBLE], GENERAL FUND, OR THE STREETS FUND. YOUR QUESTION IS WHY WE'RE PURCHASING THOSE LEASE ITEMS, THE ISSUE IS THE VALUE OR THE PRICE TAG ON THOSE VEHICLES. THE DEPARTMENT, IN THIS CASE SOLID WASTE, DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO PURCHASE $400,000 GARBAGE TRUCKS MULTIPLE OF THOSE OUT OF THEIR BUDGET. SO THEY LEASE PURCHASE THOSE ITEMS UNTIL THEY PURCHASE OUTRIGHT. >> Hernandez: IS THERE A PHASED REPLACEMENT PLAN FOR THAT? >> Zanoni: THERE IS, COUNCILMAN. IN THE PAST SIX YEARS WE'VE BEEN ADDING MONEY TO THE BUDGET, FINANCIAL RESERVES, SAVING CASH SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THESE LEASE PURCHASES. AT FIRST WE WERE ALMOST 100% BORROWING FOR REPLACEMENT VEHICLES. RUSSELL, WHAT PERCENT OF OUR FLEET IS PAY-AS-YOU-GO VERSUS TAKING LOANS OUT? >> RIGHT NOW THE NUMBER -- SHE TOLD ME YESTERDAY. I THINK IS SOMETHING LIKE 60% OF OUR VEHICLES RIGHT NOW. >> Zanoni: 60%. COUNCILMAN, OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SAVE CASH, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE THESE VEHICLES AT A POINT IN TIME. AND WE FOREGO THAT INTEREST PAYMENT, EVEN THOUGH 4.25 IS NOT 10%, IT'S STILL INTEREST AND IT'S NOT A GOOD USE OF TAXPAYER MONEY. IT'S GOING TO TAKE US SOME TIME TO PUT ADDITIONAL MONIES IN THIS REPLACEMENT FUND SO THE GOAL IS 100% OF ALL OUR VEHICLES, NO MATTER WHAT THE VALUE IS IS 100% CASH PURCHASE, FOREGOING INTEREST PAYMENTS. >> Hernandez: IT ALSO GOES TO HOW MUCH DEBT WE CARRY AS A CITY. >> Zanoni: ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN SAVING MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND AND THESE OPERATING FUNDS. 60% FIVE YEARS AGO WAS 0% WAS ON A PAY-AS-YOU-GO. NOW WE'RE AT 60%. >> Hernandez: WHAT ARE THE TERMS OF THIS LEASE PROGRAM IN TERMS OF ON THE FINANCIAL IMPACT, YOU HAVE 4.5%. >> Zanoni: 60 MONTHS. >> 60 MONTHS, 4.25, SIR. SO $25,000 OF THAT LEASE COMES OUT OF GENERAL FUND FOR FISCAL YEAR '25. AND THEN THE REMAINING BALANCE OF $1.4 MILLION WILL BE ACROSS 60 MONTHS AT 4.25. >> Hernandez: HOW DO WE CLASSIFY THIS? THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY A TAX NOTE. >> Zanoni: IT'S LIKE AN AUTO LOAN. IN OUR WORLD THEY CALL IT A LEASE PURCHASE BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY AN AUTO LOAN. JUST LIKE YOU AND I GOING TO BUY OUR OWN VEHICLE. I DON'T KNOW IF SERGIO IS HERE BUT WE DO A PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO SELECT THE LENDER OR THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION. SERGIO, GO AHEAD. >> COUNCILMAN, IT APPEARS AS A LIABILITY ON THE BALANCE SHEET. IT'S BASICALLY A SHORT-TERM LOAN. AND SO WE'LL REPORT -- >> Hernandez: KIND OF LIKE A TAX NOTE BUT TAX NOTE IS SEVEN YEARS? >> CORRECT. IT DOES APPEAR ON OUR BALANCE SHEET FOR THE UTILITY FUNDS. ON THE GOVERNMENT FUNDS IT WON'T SHOW ON YOUR -- FUND FINANCIALS WILL SHOW ON THE GOVERNMENT FINANCIALS. AND THEY'RE ALSO DISCLOSING OUR FOOTNOTES IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. >> Hernandez: HOW MUCH TOTAL DEBT DO WE HAVE UNDER THIS LEASE PROGRAM? >> I DON'T HAVE THAT OFF MY HEAD BUT I CAN GET THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU. IT'S IN OUR ANNUAL FINANCE REPORT. WE HAVE THAT NUMBER. >> Hernandez: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: I WILL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. DOES ANYONE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE ITEMS? WE'LL CLOSE THAT. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 16 AND 17. >> SO MOVE. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. >> City Secretary: AND WE HAVE 16 ON HERE, MAYOR. MR. CANTU. >> Cantu: AYE. >> Mayor Guajardo: THE MOTION CARRIES . WE'LL DO 17. >> City Secretary: THAT'S FOR 16 AND 17. >> Mayor Guajardo: THIS IS FOR BOTH? THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO ITEM NO. 6. THAT IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE AGREEMENT THROUGH THE TYPE B. >> SUSIE LUNA SALDANA, CORPUS CHRISTI TEXAS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT I DID NOT OBJECT TO YOU PASSING THIS. HOWEVER, I DO WANT YOU TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO STAY OUT OF FINANCING HOTELS. OKAY, THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER, BECAUSE IN THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE THERE HAVE BEEN ALLEGATIONS, AND I'VE LOOKED INTO SOME OF THEM, ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN DAVID AJIT AND THE PERSON DOING THIS. YOU HAVE JOHN BELL STAND UP HERE AND TELL YOU THERE WAS NO PARTNERSHIP. HOWEVER, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IF AT ANY TIME YOU FIND OUT, PROVE THAT HE'S INVOLVED, AS A PARTNER OR A CONTRIBUTOR TO IT, THAT YOU AT THAT TIME REMOVE THOSE FUNDS AND LAUNCH AN INVESTIGATION OF FRAUD. BECAUSE THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT. THAT'S WHY I'M TELLING YOU THAT WHEN YOU DO JOBS AT $14 AN HOUR AND YOU GIVE $2 MILLION FOR IT, IT'S NOT WORTH IT. THIS HOTEL COULD HAVE BEEN BUILT WITHOUT YOUR $2 MILLION. AND THAT'S OUR TAXPAYER MONEY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MS. SALDANA. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. I'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 6. >> Barrera: I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> City Secretary: MR. CANTU. >> Cantu: AYE. >> Mayor Guajardo: THE MOTION CARRIES. ITEM NO. 22 -- I HAD A QUESTION. THIS IS A MOTION AUTHORIZING A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT WITH FREESE AND NICHOLS FOR THE DESIGN, BID, AND CONSTRUCTION OF WILLIAMS DRIVE ROAD. QUICK QUESTION ON THIS, MR. EDMONDS. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. THIS IS GOING TO BE PAID OUT OF WHAT FUND? >> Edmonds: JEFF EDMONDS, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING SERVICES. THE FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE IN THIS PROJECT IS TYPE B FUNDING THAT WAS APPROVED -- I WANT TO SAY OVER TWO YEARS AGO. AND THAT'S THE ONLY FUNDING IN THERE. WE ONLY HAVE FUNDING FOR UPFRONT COST. SO THERE WAS ABOUT $4.3 MILLION THAT WAS APPROVED BY TYPE B. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. BUT THE TOTAL IS -- >> Edmonds: THIS CONTRACT IS JUST UNDER $2 MILLION FOR THE DESIGN. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. BUT THE PROJECT ITSELF IS 40-SOME ODD MILLION. >> Edmonds: IT'S ESTIMATED TO BE ALMOST A $48 MILLION PROJECT TO EXTEND THAT ROAD AND THE DRAINAGE FROM RODD FIELD TO LEXINGTON. >> Mayor Guajardo: CAN YOU GIVE US THE IMPACT OF THAT? >> Edmonds: THE IMPACT? >> Mayor Guajardo: YEAH. OF THIS PROJECT TO THAT AREA. >> Edmonds: WELL, IN TERMS OF THAT PROPERTY AND THE DEVELOPABILITY OF THAT PROPERTY AND ABATING SOME OF THE FLOODPLAIN ISSUES, IT'S GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. BUT WE HAVE YET TO IDENTIFY THE CONSTRUCTION FUNDING FOR THIS. >> Mayor Guajardo: THE CONSTRUCTION WHAT? >> Edmonds: FUNDING. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. >> Edmonds: WE HAVE ADEQUATE MONEY FOR THE DESIGN AND WHATEVER IS LEFT OVER CAN GO TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION. >> Mayor Guajardo: WHEN DO WE SEE THAT HAPPENING, PETER? >> Zanoni: THE DESIGN IS GOING TO BE IN EXCESS OF A YEAR, JEFF? >> Edmonds: IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE AT LEAST A YEAR. >> Zanoni: WE COULD LOOK AT IT AS A CANDIDATE PROJECT FOR BOND 2026. JUST IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SYNERGY RECENTLY BROKE GROUND ON A PORTION OF THIS PROJECT SITE. THEIR CONSTRUCTION COST IS $45 MILLION. SO THERE'S STILL DEVELOPABLE PROPERTY THERE AND THIS IS KIND OF A WORKAROUND IN PLACE RIGHT NOW UNTIL THE ROAD IS COMPLETELY DONE. BUT THIS WILL FINISH OFF WILLIAMS. MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S A DRAINAGE PROJECT. LESS IMPORTANTLY A ROAD-WIDENING PROJECT. >> Edmonds: AND WE ARE CONTEMPLATING PHASING THAT INTO TWO DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION PHASES. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. >> Hernandez: OKAY. ON THE EVALUATION MATRIX, THE RFQ MATRIX. YOU HAVE SEVERAL COMPANIES THAT MADE SUBMISSIONS. I GUESS YOU INTERVIEWED THREE OF THEM -- ACTUALLY, FOUR OF THEM. AND FREESE AND NICHOLS THAT YOU'RE AWARDING THIS TO HAD A PERFECT SCORE. YOU KNOW, THIS KIND OF GOES TO -- HECK, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING ABOUT HOW SUBJECTIVE THIS PROCESS IS AND HOW FRIENDLY THAT IT SEEMS THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT IS WITH FREESE AND NICHOLS. >> Edmonds: I WOULD SAY HOW CONSISTENTLY THEY DO GOOD WORK AND DELIVER ON THEIR PROJECTS. NOW THE WAY WE NORMALLY DO IT IS BY CATEGORY AND WE'LL TYPICALLY MAP THE PROJECTS TO FIRMS BY THEIR RANKING. AND AT THE TIME IT WAS BELIEVED THAT THIS WAS PROBABLY THE BETTER PROJECT. SO A LOT OF THE OTHERS HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN THEIR PROJECT AND DONE THEIR WORK AND WE ARE STILL WORKING ON GETTING THIS DESIGN CONTRACT AWARDED. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IN THIS CASE, BEING TOP RANKED DIDN'T NECESSARILY WORK OUT IN THEIR FAVOR. >> Hernandez: I MEAN, A PERFECT SCORE. I MEAN, EVERYBODY THAT WAS ON THIS PANEL ASSIGNED THEM A PERFECT SCORE. ARE YOU TELLING ME -- >> Edmonds: THAT'S MY READ OF THAT. I WASN'T ON THE PANEL. >> Hernandez: OKAY, JEFF, THE CONCERN HERE, OBVIOUSLY, IS HAVING PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. WHETHER IT'S ACCURATE OR PERCEIVED, YOU GET THAT PERCEIVED -- IT'S LIKE SADDAM WINNING WITH 90% OF THE VOTE ASPECT OF IT . I'M BEING A LITTLE BIT EXTREME ON THAT ASPECT BUT YOU DO GET THE SENSE OF IT BEING NOT NECESSARILY A FAIR PROCESS. >> Edmonds: I NEED TO VERIFY THAT THIS IS IN FACT CORRECT. BECAUSE IT IS UNUSUAL TO SEE THESE THINGS COME OUT PERFECT SCORE. I THINK THAT COULD BE A CLERICAL ERROR. I WILL SAY THEY ARE CONSISTENTLY RANKED AT THE TOP AND THEY CONSISTENTLY DO THE BEST WORK ON THIS TYPE OF PROJECT. >> Hernandez: OKAY. WELL, AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE -- MY EXPERIENCE HERE OVER THE LAST SIX AND A HALF-PLUS YEARS HAS BEEN THERE'S AN APPEARANCE OF FAVORITISM TOWARDS THIS COMPANY. >> >> Edmonds: I CAN CERTAINLY SEE HOW YOU COULD PERCEIVE THAT AS FAVE ROR TISM. BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU, TALK TO MY CONSTRUCTION FOLKS. THOSE ARE THE GUYS THAT DEAL WITH PROBLEMS, RIGHT, AND THEY CAN TELL YOU WHO'S DOING A GOOD JOB AND WHO'S NOT. AND WHEN THERE ARE ISSUES, WHO'S RESPONDING AND HELPING US TO GET THE ISSUES RESOLVED. AND I GUARANTEE YOU ANYBODY OVER THERE YOU TALK TO IS GOING TO SAY FREESE & NICHOLS, HANDS DOWN, DOES THE BEST JOB. >> Hernandez: WELL, LIKE I SAID, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS A FAIR BASIS. AND PETER, I'D ASK THAT YOU MAKE SURE THAT -- LOOK AT THE PROCESSES, BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO -- I MEAN, UNTIL WE GET THE ACTUAL DETAIL FROM THE INDIVIDUAL SCORING MATRIX FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THAT, YOU KNOW, TEAM THAT REVIEWED THESE PROCESSES, IT -- YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCESS IS FAIR. AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IF YOU'RE UTILIZING, YOU KNOW, YOUR OWN, YOU KNOW, RELATIONSHIP WITH ANOTHER -- YOU KNOW, WITH SOMEBODY THAT WORKS WITH YOU, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE. LIKE, I MEAN, HOW MUCH -- HOW MUCH WORK HAVE WE ACTUALLY DONE WITH HALFF AND ASSOCIATES. >> Edmonds: WE'VE DONE A DECENT AMOUNT WITH THEM. I MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY WERE THE -- THEY DID THE WORK FOR THE HARBOR BRIDGE MITIGATION PROJECT WE JUST AWARDED. THEY'VE DONE ROAD PROJECTS FOR US. THE NUMBER TWO RANKED FIRM ON HERE WAS LJA, THEY'VE DONE A GOOD BIT OF ROADWORK FOR US. >> Hernandez: THEY'RE DOING YORKTOWN RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK ON THE ISLAND, TOO. OKAY. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO REVIEW THE PROCESSES. >> Zanoni: YEAH, WE HEAR YOU, COUNCILMAN. >> Hernandez: I MEAN, BECAUSE -- PERFECT SCORE. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMA N SCOTT. >> Scott: I WAS GOING TO SAY, FREESE & NICHOLS IS LIKE MY WIFE. THEY'RE BOTH PERFECT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SHE HEARS THAT, IF SHE'S WORKING. I LOVE FREESE & NICHOLSF. I THINK EVERYBODY I'VE TALKED TO IN YOUR DEPARTMENT SAYS THEY DO GREAT WORK. IN MY PAST TENURE HERE, THEY DID AMAZING WORK FOR THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. IF YOU'RE SITTING IN A ROOM, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S UP HERE DISPARAGING FREESE & NICHOLS. THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THE PROCESS. I THINK YOU SHOULD KNOW AT LEAST FROM ME HERE THAT I THINK THEY'VE DONE FANTASTIC WORK FOR THE CITY. I JUST DON'T LIKE THE PROJECT. I HAVE -- THIS HAS BEEN A BURR IN MY SADDLE FOR A DECADE. I DON'T -- AND I'M NOT MAD AT -- I'M JUST MAD IN GENERAL, RIGHT? SO TELL ME WHY WE HAVE TO PUT A STREET BEHIND WHAT WILL SOME DAY BE MORE PLAZA, YOU KNOW? LET ME BACK UP. I GET THE STREET WAS IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN 50 YEARS AGO, AND WE HAD THE -- WE HAD THE CROSS-SECTIONS AND WILLIAMS WAS GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY TO RODD FIELD AND SO THAT PEOPLE COULD COME DOWN RODD FIELD AND THEY WOULD HAVEN'T TO GET ON HOLLY, THEY WOULD COME DOWN WILLIAMS OVER TO WHEREVER THEY WANTED, BUT THOSE DAYS ARE OVER BECAUSE WE HAVE ELIMINATED ACCESS FROM ENTERPRISE, RIGHT, TO RODD FIELD. SO THAT WHOLE COLLECTOR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, I THINK, IS OUT -- AND I'VE ALWAYS -- I'VE WANTED FOR A LONG TIME TO ELIMINATE THAT STREET FROM THE MASTER PLAN. AND IT HASN'T, AND BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ON THE PAPER, I THINK WE -- YOU GUYS ARE DOING WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, WHICH IS, HEY, IT'S ON A PLAN AND SO WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE A STREET. SO I DON'T -- SO I'VE GOT -- I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE BUILDING THE STREET BEHIND, AND DO WE REALLY HAVE TO, OTHER THAN THAT IT'S ON A MAP? >> Edmonds: THERE'S TWO ANSWERS. >> Scott: AND YOU'VE BEEN WAITING TO ANSWER, I CAN TELL. >> Edmonds: WELL, THE FACT THAT IT'S ON THE MAP ISN'T WHAT'S TRIGGERING. IT'S THE FACT THAT IT'S IN THE APPROVED CIP IS WHAT -- >> Scott: ALL RIGHT. I'LL GIVE YOU THAT. >> Edmonds: IT WAS APPROVED A COUPLE YEARS AGO. IT WAS ALSO IN THE ONE THAT WAS JUST APPROVED. >> Scott: DANG IT. DID I APPROVE THAT ONE? >> Edmonds: I THINK ERNIE CAN GIVE YOU -- >> Zanoni: GO AHEAD, ERNIE. >> Scott: HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST ALL IN S. >> Zanoni: 50 MILLION. IN ORDER TO BUILD, WE HAVE TO CONVEY -- UNLESS THAT DEVELOPER TURNS A BIG PORTION INTO IT OF AN ON SITE DETENTION POND, THE MAJORITY OF THIS WORK IS UNDERGROUND STORM DRAINAGE, AND ERNIE CAN SPEAK TO THIS, BUT I THINK TXDOT HAD ISSUE WITH USING THE ACCESS ROAD AS A PRIMARY INGRESS AND EGRESS, AND I THINK THEY REQUIRED A SECONDARY ROAD, BUT ERNIE CAN SPEAK TO THAT. >> ERNIE DE LA GARZA INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. A COUPLE OF THINGS. RIGHT NOW THOSE BOXES OUTFALL INTO THAT DITCH. >> Scott: YEP. >> AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A MAJOR STORM EVENT IN A WHILE, BUT A MAJOR STORM EVENT, IT ACTUALLY SO MUCH FLOW VELOCITY IN THAT AREA THAT IT'S CAUSING A LOT OF EROSION, AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE HAVING IN THAT AREA. >> Scott: IT CAUSES EROSION ON THE EXISTING WATER DITCH. >> CORRECT. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A NOZZLE. THERE'S A LOT OF VELOCITY THROUGH THERE. SO THIS WILL IMPROVE THAT. BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT PUSHES THAT DOWN THE ROAD -- OR DOWN THE DITCH, FOR EXAMPLE, AND SO A COUPLE OF MOVING PARTS. ONE, THAT PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO HAVE ACCESS ON THE BACK SIDE WHERE YOU WOULD NEED AN INTERSECTION THROUGH THAT SIGNAL GOING STRAIGHT THROUGH. SO RIGHT NOW THE ONLY ACCESS POINTS IS A DRIVEWAY ON RODD FIELD THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT BEING USED, IN BETWEEN THE INTERSECTION SIGNAL AND THE FRONTAGE OF SPID, THERE'S A DRIVEWAY THAT'S NOT BEING USED RIGHT NOW. THAT ONE ACTUALLY WAS APPROVED BY TXDOT WHEN I WAS AT TXDOT, SO IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS APPROVED A LONG TIME AGO IN ANTICIPATION OF DEVELOPMENT THERE. AND THEN ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD, THERE'S ANOTHER ACCESS POINT THERE. SO THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT IS WHEN A DEVELOPMENT COMES, THEY DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND A PART OF THAT ANALYSIS DETERMINES HOW MUCH POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS YOU NEED. THIS WILL ADD ONE. BUT WE CAN'T HAVE THAT WITH A DITCH THERE, AND THEN WE CAN'T SOLVE THAT VELOCITY ISSUE WITHOUT IMPROVING THE DRAINAGE STRUCTURES THERE, SO THAT WAS PROBLEM NUMBER ONE BEING SOLVED. PROBLEM NUMBER TWO IS THAT AS THE DEVELOPMENT GETS IMPROVED IN THAT WHOLE AREA, THEY HAVE TO DO A PRE AND POST, AND SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THEY'RE GOING TO STORE WATER ON THEIR LAND FOR A POINT, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GET THE WATER OFF, WHICH WILL ADD TO THE SYSTEM. SO FREESE & NICHOLS OR WHOEVER GETS SELECTED WILL -- WILL DO THAT ANALYSIS FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT, ONE, WE DON'T HAVE EROSION ISSUES MOVING FORWARD, AND THEN, TWO, YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE CULVERTS DO HOLD TRAFFIC AND THEY DO PROVIDE THAT CIRCULATION THAT'S NEEDED AT THAT INTERSECTION. >> Scott: IS THE TRAFFIC GOING TO GO OVER THE CULVERTS? >> YES, SIR. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE DIRECT TRAFFIC CULVERTS. >> Scott: ONE OF MY OTHER ISSUES IS THAT YOU'RE JUST TAKING, YOU KNOW, TAXABLE PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOT TO BE HIGH-VALUED PROPERTY, AND YOU'RE TAKING IT OFF THE TAX ROLL WHEN YOU PUT IT ON A STREET. SO THE BOX CULVERTS HAVE BEEN THERE, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT, 20 YEARS? >> A GOOD -- I DON'T HAVE THE TIME FRAME, BUT THEY'VE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME. >> Scott: YEAH. I DON'T RECALL ANYBODY SAYING THERE'S SIGNIFICANT EROSION ON THAT DITCH. THAT DOESN'T MEAN -- THAT JUST MEANS I HADN'T HEARD THAT UNTIL YOU SAID IT TODAY, AND YOU MAY HAVE SAID IT TO PREVIOUS COUNCILS, IT'S JUST THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT. AND WHEN IT GETS TO ENTERPRISE, WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ENTERPRISE, THAT'S JUST AN OPEN DITCH, TOO. >> DO YOU RECALL, WE DID A PROJECT OUT IN THAT OPEN OUTFALL, WE REMOVED ALL THE TREES AND STUFF. >> Scott: UH-HUH. >> I GUESS BEFORE YOU GET TO SPID. >> Scott: RIGHT. >> THAT WAS TO IMPROVE THAT -- THAT EROSION AND, OF COURSE, THAT DRAINAGE AS WELL. >> Scott: I CYCLE OUT THERE. SO -- AND SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE BOX CULVERTS IN BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE EROSION, WHICH I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE WRONG, I JUST HADN'T SEEN -- THAT'S THE FIRST I'VE HEARD. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO PUT A ROAD ON TOP OF IT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HELP PEOPLE, PATRONS OF WHATEVER DEVELOP THERE GET OUT OF THE FACILITY? BECAUSE I GET THERE'S A LIGHT THERE, AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I THINK THERE HAS SOME MERIT, THE LIGHT AT WILLIAMS AND RODD FIELD THAT ALLOWS A LEFT-HAND TURN AS YOU LEAVE THE FACILITY. >> RIGHT. >> Scott: BUT DOES IT -- DOES THE ROAD HAVE TO BE ALL THE WAY TO ENTERPRISE THEN, OR IS THERE ANY SAVINGS -- >> RIGHT NOW, LIKE JEFF HAD JUST MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING AT A PHASED -- PHASED APPROACH, SO THE FIRST PHASE ONLY GOES PROBABLY MAYBE TWO OR 300 FEET BEYOND THE INTERSECTION, TO A PROPOSED DRIVE ON THE BACK SIDE. >> Scott: DOES THE DEVELOPER PAY PART OF THIS OR IS IT ALL ON US? >> I DO NOT KNOW. I'D ASK MY -- >> Zanoni: I THINK IT'S 100% ON THE CITY, COUNCILMAN. >> Scott: ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'M -- >> Zanoni: AND JUST TO ADD, SO THE BOX CULVERTS ARE NECESSARY TO CONVEY NEW STORMWATER THAT WILL COME FROM NEW DEVELOPMENT. ONCE THAT FARM FIELD TURNS INTO ASPHALT AND ROOFTOP, THE STORMWATER HAS TO GET CONVEYED TO BASICALLY THE OSO. >> CORRECT SONSZ R. >> Zanoni: THE OH OH, SOW CREEK AREA, MORE TO CONVEY STORMWATER, THE WHOLE LENGTH OF THE WILLIAMS DRIVE OUT TO THE OUTFALL. >> Scott: SO YOU'RE IMPLYING BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT ASPHALT, THERE WILL BE FASTER RUNOFF AND MORE -- >> Zanoni: ABSOLUTELY. >> Scott: I GET THAT. AND THERE'S SOME STUDY OUT THERE SOMEWHERE THAT SAYS THAT'S MORE CAPACITY THAN THE DITCH WILL HOLD. >> Zanoni: YES. >> Scott: THAT'S WHAT FREESE -- >> SO THE TAKE AWAY IS YOU DO NEED ACCESS TO THAT INTERACTION AT THE BACK SIDE, AND IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE WITH CULVERTS OR YOU BUILD A BRIDGE AND THEN YOU DRIVE ON TOP OF A BRIDGE-TYPE STRUCTURE. >> Scott: YEAH. >> BUT LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT WAS THAT THERE WAS ISSUES WITH VELOCITY, AND THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE CONSULTING COMES IN. THEY COME AND SOLVE THAT PROBLEM FOR US AND THEN GIVE US THE DESIGNS TO MAKE SURE THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. BUT MAINLY, IT WAS FOR ACCESS AT THAT INTERSECTION. >> Scott: ARE YOU GOING TO ASK A QUESTION. OKAY. THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS, SO... ALL RIGHT. OKAY. I JUST -- I HAVE ISSUES. THANKS. >> YES, SIR. COUNCILMA N ROY? >> Roy: JEFF, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU. SO WHEN I INITIALLY LOOKED AT THIS AND I'VE LISTENED TO A COUPLE OF THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS, I WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY GOT A PERFECT SCORE. I THOUGHT, OKAY, BUT THEN YOU BASICALLY SAID THEY'RE A GREAT COMPANY, AWESOME COMPANY, BUT THEN YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT DOES CONCERN ME. AND YOU SAID THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT IT COULD BE A MISTAKE. >> Edmonds: WELL, I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT YOU HAD THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ALL GIVING THIS PERFECT SCORE. I DON'T -- I'M CONFIDENT THEY'RE RANKED NUMBER ONE, BUT I LOOK AT IT THE SAME WAY COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ DOES. >> Roy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oy: WELL, WHAT CONCERNS ME -- AND I THINK IN LIFE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT THEY MAY HAVE THE BEST PRODUCT AND UNFORTUNATELY, THEY JUST DON'T GIVE THE BEST PRESENTATION. >> RIGHT. >> Roy: SO PART OF YOUR SCORING MECHANISM IN LOOKING AT THIS IS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT PAST RELATIONSHIPS IN TERMS OF HOW THEY DID THE QUALITY OF THE JOBS THAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND THAT, YOU'RE USING A LOT MORE TO DETERMINE THEIR VALUE THAN THE DAY OF THE PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? MAYBE SOMEBODY SHOWED UP AND THEY HAVE THE FLU, BUT THEY WANTED TO DRIVE ON, THINKING THAT THEY'RE REALLY HELPING THE PROCESS AND THEY WEREN'T. >> RIGHT. >> Roy: SO WHEN I SAY ALL OF THIS, AT LEAST MANY MY MIND, THAT IS A CONCERN OF MINE. I -- BECAUSE, AGAIN, ESPECIALLY WORKING WITH RFQS OVER THE YEARS, IT'S JUST VERY RARE THAT YOU FIND SOMEBODY THAT'S JUST PERFECT. SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GIVE A .8, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GIVE A .9. AND SO, AGAIN, I'M QUESTIONING THAT. >> YES, SIR. >> Roy: I CAN'T HELP -- >> YES, SIR. ALL I WAS JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN, FROM WHAT I WITNESSED, IT WAS VERY OBVIOUS THAT THERE WAS A BIG, YOU KNOW GAP. >> Roy: THERE MIGHT BE A GAP, BUT WERE THEY PERFECT? THAT'S MY POINT. >> YES, SIR. UNDERSTOOD. >> Roy: ALL RIGHT. THANKS. COUNCILMA N HERNANDEZ? >> Hernandez: FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, AND THIS MIGHT BE ERNIE AS WELL, THIS -- YOU KNOW, WE PUT MONEY, ONE IN SASALES TAX FOR STORMWATER PROJECTS, BUT YOU HAVE 31 -- I MEAN, $37 MILLION IN REVENUE BONDS TO PAY FOR THIS, IS THAT -- IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT'S NOT CORRECT? >> Zanoni: YOU KNOW, THIS IS FROM THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET AND THIS WAS THE PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED KIND OF A YEAR AGO, BUT I DON'T -- >> IT WAS ON THE LIST, SIR, FOR -- >> Hernandez: RIGHT, IT WAS ON THE LIST. >> Zanoni: OKAY. >> SO IT'S ONE OF THE LISTED PROJECTS FOR THE PROP F. >> Zanoni: WE HAVE NOT DECIDED YET WHAT WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND FOR THE 1/8-CENT EITHER FOR THE AMERICAN BANK CENTER OR THE HILLIARD CENTER OR THE STORMWATER THAT WILL COME IN THESE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL. THIS IS A LITTLE PRELIMINARY IS MY POINT. WE MAY NOT RECOMMEND ISSUING REVENUE BONDS. WE MAY. >> Hernandez: THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF REVENUE IN STORMWATER. >> Zanoni: YEAH. >> CORRECT. >> Hernandez: AT ALL. >> Zanoni: YEAH. >> Hernandez: AND WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE TAKING DEBT SERVICE FROM THAT FUND. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. I THINK THIS PAGE IS A LITTLE DATED, THE CAP TL BUDGET TAIJ, ADMITTEDLY. WHAT JEFF SAID IS WE HAVE NO IDENTIFIED FUNDING FOR CONSTRUCTION. >> THAT'S CORRECT. HE'S RIGHT HERE. >> Zanoni: OKAY. THE 1/8-CENT FOR THE FLOOD CONTROL THAT THE VOTERS APPROVED, WE HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS WITH A PROGRAM OF RECOMMENDATION, THAT WOULD INCLUDE DO WE DEBT FINANCE, SO WE CAN FAST TRACK SOME OF THESE PROJECTS OR NOT. WE HAVEN'T DECIDED THAT YET, NOR HAS COUNCIL. >> Hernandez: WHAT'S THE TIMELINE FOR THE DESIGN. >> Edmonds: E I THINK YOU CAN EASILY COUNT ON THIS TAKING A YEAR. . >> Hernandez: OKAY. >> Edmonds: THE SHEET US THAT WAS INCLUDED WAS -- >> Hernandez: NEXT JULY. >> Edmonds: -- LAST YE YEAR CIP. >> Zanoni: THE NEW ONE SHOWS NO CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS. SO THE NEW CAPITAL BUDGET Y'ALLAL PROVED A FEW WEEKS AGO HAS $0 FOR CONSTRUCTION. THIS PAGE WAS FROM LAST SUMMER. >> Hernandez: ON YOUR AGENDA MEMO, YOU HAVE CONSTRUCTION STARTING NEXT OCTOBER. >> Zanoni: RIGHT, THAT'S WHY YOU SAID, WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD THIS PAGE IN THERE. WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE PUT THE '26 BUDGET PAGE IN. IT WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT TIMELINE. THIS IS FROM A YEAR AGO, THIS IS THE PLAN AS A YEAR AGO. >> Edmonds: I THINK WE HAD THIS QUEUED UP TO BRING A COUPLE OF MONTHS. IF WE DO NEED TO TABLE IT, IT'S JUST -- >> Zanoni: WE DON'T NEED -- EXCUSE ME. RIGHT NOW WE'RE CHECKING THE SCORES COUNCILMAN. IF YOU WANT I'LL GET YOU AN ANSWER ON WAS IT 100% OR NOT, AND MAYBE JUST DELAY THE VOTE ON IT TODAY, AND WE CAN BRING IT BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING'S OVER. OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR'S LOOKING AT THE SCORES RIGHT NOW. WE DWONT RECOMMEND TABLING IT. >> Hernandez: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: BUT THE FUNDING FOR IT IS WHAT'S GOING TO COME BACK IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS? I MEAN, HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT. >> Zanoni: WELL, SO THE DESIGN IS PAID FOR USING -- >> Mayor Guajardo: RIGHT. >> Zanoni: PRIOR TYPE B SALES TAX. THE 50 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION AND THE PHASING OF IT, THAT PLAN HAS TO COME BACK AT SOME POINT. >> Mayor Guajardo: RIGHT. >> Zanoni: AND TO THE NEW 1/8 CENT FOR FLOOD CONTROL THAT THE VOTERS APPROVED, I'M NOT FOR CERTAIN, BUT IT MAY BE ON THE LIST -- IT'S ON THE LIST, SO WE HAVE TO SEE, IS THIS THE PRIORITY OVER OTHER PROJECTS THAT WERE ON THE LIST. AND SO WHERE DOES THIS FIT IN THAT QUEUE AND WHAT ABOUT THE BOND PROGRAM '26 AND SO ON. SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK STILL TO BE DONE, BUT AS JEFF SAID, IT'S GOING TO TAKE WELL OVER A YEAR TO DESIGN IT, SO WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL WE GET THE DESIGN ANYWAY, SO IT'S PRUDENT TO MOVE FORWARD, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE CINERGY ALREADY BROKE DOWN ON THEIR 45 MILLION-DOLLAR 50,000 SQUARE FOOT COMPLEX. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON? >> Paxson: THANK YOU, MAYOR. WHERE IT SHOWS FROM 2024 PRIOR YEARS IN FUNDING WERE OVER 4 MILLION ON IT, WAS THAT -- >> Edmonds: THAT WAS THE TYPE B FUNDING. >> Paxson: IS THAT SOMETHING WE'VE HAD EAR MARKED FOR THIS TIME OR HAVE WE ALREADY EXPENSED THAT 4 MILLION. >> Edmonds: NO, IT HASN'T BEEN EXPENSED. THIS WOULD COME OUT OF THAT, AND THE REMAINDER, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 2 MILLION, COULD BE USED FOR CONSTRUCTION. >> Paxson: I SEE. OKAY. KIND OF TO ERNIE'S POINT, I THINK IT'S VERY VALUABLE TO HAVE THE ACCESS TO A PROJECT OF THIS SCOPE DETERRING SOME OF THAT POTENTIAL CONGESTION IN THE ACCESS TO THE HIGHWAY. I KNOW THAT IF YOU LOOK AT STAPLES, EVERHART, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, IT'S INCREDIBLY DENSE, AND SO I THINK IT'S A VERY VALUABLE PROJECT, BUT -- AND I ACTUALLY HAD A STAFF MEMBER TAKE THE TIME TO REACH OUT TO ME AND SAY THAT THEY'VE HAD AN EXCELLENT EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH THE RECOMMENDED CONTRACTOR HERE, BUT ALSO -- BUT IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY YES TO SOMETHING BASED ON IS THERE A QUESTION MARK ON THE SCORE NUMBER. SO YOU SAID WE'LL WAIT UNTIL LATER IN THE MEETING. >> Zanoni: IF THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE, YEAH, WE'LL HAVE THEM HERE MOMENTARILY. I'M CHECKING RIGHT NOW. BUT THERE'S PROBABLY ONLY FOUR OR FIVE SCORERS, SO IT WON'T TAKE -- IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE A WEEK. WE SHOULD HAVE IT IN THE NEXT 15 MINUTES OR SO. >> Paxson: OKAY. >> Mayor Guajardo: LET'S DO THAT. SO WE'LL PAUSE ITEM NUMBER 22. 22? YES. AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT. OKAY THE LAST ITEM PULLED THAT WAS COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ, THAT IS ITEM NUMBER -- WELL, I DIDN'T ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M SORRY, ON ITEM 22. IS THERE ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEM WE JUST WERE SPEAKING ON? >> RACHEL CABIER OWE, D1, APPARENTLY WE'RE NOT LEARNING ABOUT THE PHASE 1, PHASE 2 FUNDING AND FUNDING THINGS PARTIALLY BEFORE WE ARE AWARE OF WHERE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS GOING TO BE COMING INTO PLACE. MY CONCERN ISN'T SO MUCH WITH THE STREET, BUT THERE IS CONCERN WITH USING FREESE & NICHOLS WHO YOU GUYS HEAVILY RELIED ON AND FUNDED IN EXCESS OF $10 MILLION FOR THE INNER HARBOR DESAL PLANT, NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR STREET MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR, AND WE HAVE A STREET MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR DEPARTMENT, BUT THE CONCERN HERE IS THAT YOU GUYS KEEP MAKING -- AND MAYBE I SHOULDN'T SAY THE COUNCIL, BUT CITY STAFF KEEPS WORKING ON APPROACHES THAT DO NOT WORK. ONE YEAR TO LAY OUT ONE STREET? SO IT'S STARTING TO LOOK LIKE FREESE & NICHOLS IS COMPLYING WITH RECEIVING TAXPAYER FUNDS FOR NOT THE PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE MEANT TO BE FOR. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THIS ENTIRE BODY TO LOOK OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF FREESE & NICHOLS, THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN NOT GREAT DECISION-MAKING WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY, THEY'VE TOLD YOU ALL NOT TO DO DESAL 15 YEARS AGO, AND THEY HAVE SINCE MADE IN EXCESS OF $10 MILLION. AND WE KEEP FEEDING THEM MORE MONEY. SO PROBABLY GOOD TO START BRANCHING OUT. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT. AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT ON PAUSE AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK OUT. THE LAST ITEM THAT WAS PULLED WAS ITEM 23, THAT IS A RESOLUTION PROVING EIGHT CORPUS CHRISTI TYPE B ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SMALL BUSINESS AGREEMENT PROJECTS. COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ, YOUR QUESTION OR COMMENT? >> Hernandez: YOU KNOW, THE -- MY ISSUE IS THIS, IS BUNDLING ALL THIS INTO ONE AGENDA ITEM. THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROKEN UP AT LEAST SEPARATING TEXAS A&M PROJECT FROM THE DEL MAR PROJECTS. AND, YOU KNOW, THE -- THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD PROJECTS IN HERE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE I'M NOT A FAN OF, BUT I DON'T WANT TO -- YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE IT ALL IN ONE, I DON'T WANT TO VOTE NO JUST BECAUSE OF ONE ITEM. >> RANDY ALMA GUERRA, COMPLIANCE OFFICER. I KIND OF HAD A FEELING THIS WAS GOING TO GET BROUGHT UP. THIS HAS GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH PRIOR COUNCILS, EITHER PUTTING THEM TOGETHER -- AND WE'VE SEPARATED THEM OUT BEFORE AS WELL. WE CAN COME BACK AT THE NEXT FISCAL AND SEPARATE THEM OUT. I UNDERSTAND -- I THINK YOU'VE BROUGHT THIS UP IN THE PAST, TOO, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, SOMEONE MENTIONED WHY DON'T WE PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER, BECAUSE IT'S -- >> Hernandez: NO, YOU HAVE IT ON CONSENT, RIGHT, SO IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH ONE OF THE ITEMS, YOU JUST PULL THAT ONE OFF AND WE DO ON THE CONSENT ON THE REST OF THEM. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M REFERRING TO. YOU DON'T HAVE -- YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH ONE OF THESE, NOW, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT TO SAY, OKAY, WELL, ALL THESE ARE GREAT PROGRAMS BUT THAT ONE PROGRAM I DON'T LIKE, I HAVE TO VOTE NO ON THE WHOLE THING? RIGHT? >> Zanoni: I THINK YOU COULD VOTE -- TAKE ONE OFF, COUNCILMAN, IF YOU WANTED TO -- DO A MOTION TO AMEND IT. >> Hernandez: WELL, YOU KNOW, I -- >> Zanoni: YEAH. >> Hernandez: AND PETER, THIS IS FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. >> Hernandez: I THINK A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS ARE GOOD PROJECTS. IRLIKE THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT YOU'RE PUTTING US IN A SPOT TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE OMNIBUS TYPE STUFF THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES. >> WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT GOING FORWARD, COUNCILMAN. WE CAN WRITE OUT ALL THOSE MEMOS, HAVE THEM ON THERE, IF SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET PULLED,. >> Hernandez: YEAH. YOU CAN LEAVE T THEM ON THE CONSENT -- >> AND WHICH SPECIFIC PROGRAM ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU -- >> Hernandez: WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU HAVE ALL -- LIKE ALL THE -- YOU PUT THE UNIVERSITY AND DEL MAR TOGETHER, RIGHT? YOU SHOULD HAVE THEM -- AT LEAST THOSE SEPARATED OUT. >> OKAY. I'D ALSO LIKE -- >> Hernandez: HAVE SOME THAT ARE TIED TO THE SCHOOL DIRECTLY AND SOME THAT ARE OUTSIDE PROGRAMS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SCHOOL. SO THOSE SHOULD BE SEPARATE. SO I MEAN, JUST -- YOU'RE JUST PUTTING IT ALL IN ONE SPOT, NOT TO SAY IT'S A BAD THING, IT'S JUST YOU -- >> YES, YOU'LL SEE THEM SEPARATED. >> Hernandez: YOU'RE NOT GIVING US OPTIONS. >> YES, COUNCILMAN. >> Hernandez: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> UH-HUH. >> Mayor Guajardo: I'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> Barrera: I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND MAIRNDLE ANY THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 23? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM MAYOR, DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'M DR. J LOUISE LEO, I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER MY NAME, COMPOSED OF TWO ELEMENTS, LITHIUM AND URANIUM, TWO POWERFUL -- TODAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO ALLOW ME TO SAY A FEW WORDS. >> City Secretary: MA'AM, WHAT CITY ARE YOU WITH? >> I THINK IT'S DISTRICT 5. >> City Secretary: DISTRICT 5. >> YEAH, UNDER MR. HERNANDEZ. YES, I WANT TO SHOW MY APPRECIATION TO SEVERAL DIVISIONS APART. SO PARTICULARLY, I WANT TO SHOW OVER THIS YEAR OUR TEAM HAS BEEN BENEFITED GREATLY FROM THE CYBERSECURITY CMMC PROGRAM, PARTICULARLY THE [INDISCERNIBLE] MRS. SHAW FROM THE THERMAL -- HOW DO WE SAY IT -- CYBERSECURITY -- FROM DEL MAR COLLEGE, AS WELL THIS PROGRAM NOT ONLY SAVED US TIME, MANPOWER AND ALSO ALLOW US TO SAVE MONEY AND THE SECURE A CERTIFICATE AS WELL EXTENDED OUR CONNECTIONS, PARTICULARLY TECHNOLOGY OUTREACH AND THE COLLABORATIVE RESEARCH TO THE FEDERAL LAB ASSOCIATION CONSORTIUM ALLOWED US TO BECOME A MEMBER OF EMC, IT'S DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. [INDISCERNIBLE] ALSO APART FROM THE SCORE AS PARTICIPATING THE VIRTUAL IN-PERSON ZOOM MEETINGS, ALSO THE IPAC ACCELERATOR, LED BY BOB AND NANCY AND SEVERAL OTHERS, THE MCMS, THE SMALL BUSINESS [INDISCERNIBLE] AND THE CENTERS, SO ALL THOSE CERTIFICATES, APART FROM DIFFERENT DIVISIONS, NOT ONLY A TRAINING PROGRAM, BUT TO THE STRATEGIC FOUNDATION NOW SUPPORT US AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, ALSO A UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR FOR US TO INNOVATE, TO ENHANCE THE ON T ENTREPRENEURSHIP, TO EMPOWER OUR NEXT GENERATION TO SUPPORT THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL THE RESILIENCE OF THE COOPERATIONS. THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AND THOSE SUPPORTING THE PEOPLE WHO CALL CORPUS CHRISTI HOME. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK Y YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS AND TYPE B BOARD MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JAY JOHNSON LEE, I'M THE OWNER AND FOUNDER OF MOTHER'S TOUCH, LLC, CORPUS CHRISTI. I WANT TO THANK YOU THROUGH YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND LOCAL BUSINESSES THROUGH THE TYPE B ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SMALL BUSINESS AGREEMENT PROJECTS. BECAUSE OF THIS PROGRAM, MOTHER'S TOUCH, LLC, HAS BEEN ABLE TO GROW IN WAYS THAT TRULY MAKE A DIFFERENCE, BOTH FOR MY BUSINESS AND THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE. THROUGH LIFTFUND, AND I WILL TELL YOU, THROUGH THE VARIOUS LOANS WE'VE TRIED TO OBTAIN, IT HASN'T BEEN VERY EASY. BUT THROUGH LIFTFUND, I WAS ABLE TO SECURE A LOAN AT A FIXED 5.5 INTEREST RATE WITH THE CITY PROVIDING THE INTEREST BUY DOWN. THAT SUPPORT MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO PURCHASE A FORWARD TRANSIT, BECAUSE WE TRANSPORT OUR STAFF FROM ONE LOCATION TO THE NEXT. THIS ONE INVEST. EXPANDED OUR ABILITY TO REACH MORE CLIENTS AND CREATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ADD MORE JOBS AND TO OUR TEAM. THROUGH THE DEL MAR SMALL BUSINESS INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, WE WERE MATCHED WITH TWO HARD WORKING INTERNS, WHO HAVE BEEN A TREMENDOUS HELP. THEY'VE SUPPORTED US WITH OUTREACH SCHEDULING MARKETING AND ADMINISTRATIVE PRODUCTS -- PROJECTS THAT KEEP OUR OPERATIONS RUNNING VERY, VERY SMOOTHLY. AND THROUGH THE SCORE PROGRAM, SBDC AND CRC, WE RECEIVED MENTORSHIP THAT CONTINUES TO GUIDE US, AS WE REFINE OUR STRATEGIES, STRENGTHEN OUR SYSTEMS AND PREPARE FOR SUSTAINABLE LONG-TERM GROWTH. BECAUSE OF THIS INITIATIVE, MY STAFF HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE ON NEW RESPONSIBILITIES, SERVICING RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, VACATION RENTAL PROPERTIES, MANAGING LAUNDRY SERVICES AND INVENTORY, SUPPORTING OUTREACH AND COMMUNICATION AND PROVIDING SECOND-CHANCE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE EAGER TO REENTER OUR WORKFORCE. I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT MOTHER'S TOUCH, LLC, IS FULLY INSURED WITH GENERAL LIABILITY AUTOMOTIVE LIABILITY AND WORKER'S COMP CONVERSATION SO OUR CLIENTS KNOW THEY CAN PUT THEIR TRUST IN US COMPLETELY. WE ARE CURRENTLY ACCEPTING NEW CONTRACTS, CONTINUING TO EXPAND OUR SITES TO BUSINESSES AND FAMILIES RIGHT HERE IN THE COASTAL BEND. THIS PROGRAM HAS GIVEN MY BUSINESS THE TOOLS TO NOT JUST SURVIVE, BUT TO GROW. AND IN TURN, TO GIVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY BY CREATING JOBS, EXPANDING TRAINING AND HELP BUILD A STRONGER LOCAL ECONOMY. SO TODAY I SIMPLY WANT TO THANK YOU, OKAY, FOR BELIEVING IN OUR SMALL BUSINESS AND -- LIKE OURS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RESOURCES, THE PARTNERSHIP AND THE MENTORSHIP NECESSARY TO SUCCEED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE -- OH, GO AHEAD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS SARAH FLOAR REZ, I AM FROM DISTRICT 4. I AMCO OWNER AND OPERATOR OF STREET CORNER KITCHEN, FORMALLY KNOWN AS LULY STREETRY, WE'VE HAD A FOOD TRUCK FOR FOUR YEARS. WE HAVE BENEFITED TREMENDOUSLY FROM THE SBDC AND LIFTFUND AS WELL. THESE OPPORTUNITIES AND THESE PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN CREATED FOR US AND THE WAYS THAT THEY HAVE ENABLED US TO GROW ARE, OF COURSE, THROUGH FUNDING AND FINANCING. WE ARE ACTUALLY ABLE TO GROW FROM OUR FOOD TRUCK INTO OUR RESTAURANT WITH THE HELP OF LIFTFUND. LIFTFUND ALSO WAS ABLE TO SECURE US A VERY LOW INTEREST RATE LOAN, AND THIS IS TREMENDOUS BECAUSE IT ENABLES US TO GROW INTO THIS RESTAURANT WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY SO HEAVILY -- WE'VE HAD A ONE-YEAR RENOVATION PROCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH FOR THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE IN IN OUR DOWNTOWN LOCATION. SO HAVING ACCESS TO A LOW INTEREST LOAN HAS ENABLED US TO FOCUS ON THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT ASPECT OF IT. AS YOU KNOW FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, WE ARE JUGGLING SO MANY THINGS AT ONCE, WE'RE DOING MARKETING, ACCOUNTING, WE'RE DOING THE OPERATIONS AND THE PRODUCTION. SO HAVING ACCESS TO SOMETHING LIKE SBDC WHERE THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE PROCESS, IF I NEED HELP WITH ANYTHING, I KNOW THAT I HAVE SOMEBODY TO SPEAK TO. THE FUNDING AND THE FINANCING HAS BEEN, OSK, A TREMENDOUS SUPPORT, BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST SUPPORT IN ALL OF THIS IS THE KNOWLEDGE THAT LIFTFUND AND SBDC HAS PROVIDED US. FOR EXAMPLE, IF I -- LIKE I SAID, IF I NEED ANYTHING, THEY'RE AVAILABLE. I DID NOT JUST SECURE A LOAN WITH THEM BY JUST SHOWING UP AND SAYING, HEY, CAN I HAVE SOME MONEY? THESE ARE TAX FUNDED DOLLARS AT WORK, SO THE PROCESS IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THIS FUNDING, ORGANIZATION DOCUMENTATION THINGS THAT I HAD NOT EVEN CONSIDERED, THINGS THAT IF YOU GO TO A MAJOR BANK, THEY'RE NOT REALLY GOING TO ASK FOR. THEY'RE NOT REALLY GOING TO CARE, BUT CONSIDERING THAT THESE ARE TAX DOLLARS AT WORK IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY BEING GIVEN TO ME, I BELIEVE THAT THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE BACKGROUND WORK TO THEM NEEDED TO BE COMPLETE, AND THEY -- I'M SORRY, LIFTFUND AND SBDC MADE SURE THAT WE WERE PREPARED FOR THOSE. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE B TYPE B BOARD FOR THE SUPPORT AND I ENCOURAGE THE ONGOING SUPPORT OF THIS PROGRAM. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MELISSA JIMENEZ, FROM CORPUS CHRISTI. I WOULD LIKE TO SINCERELY THANK THE CITY FOR HELPING MY BUSINESS GROW. I HAVE THREE CHILDCARE CENTERS, I AM THE OWNER AND WITH THE HELP OF THE TYPE B BUSINESSES THROUGH LIFTFUND, SBDC AND THEIR MENTORSHIP AND THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS FROM DEL MAR COLLEGE AND TAMU CC, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO RUN MY BUSINESS WITH THE HELP OF THESE PROGRAMS, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT. I CURRENTLY HAVE OVER 25 EMPLOYEES, THREE CENTERS, AND IT'S ALL FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND TO PROVIDE CHILDCARE FOR CHILDREN AGES SIX WEEKS TO 12 YEARS OLD. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK Y YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME'S AVERY RAINY AND I REPRESENT JEWEL PROPERTIES, CONCRETE STREET MARKETING GROUP AND CONCRETE STREET AMPHITHEATER. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE JOB DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM THROUGH TIRZ 3 AND A&M CORPUS CHRISTI. CONCRETE STREET MARKETING GROUP, WHICH HANDLES ALL MARKETING AND ADVERTISING FOR BREWSTER STREET ICEHOUSE AND OTHERS, WE STARTED USING THE JDIP PROGRAM IN THE FALL OF 2023 TO BRING IN INTERNS AND THE RESULTS HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLE. THE PROGRAM GIVES STUDENTS A COMPETITIVE HOURLY WAGE WHILE GIVING SMALL BUSINESSES ACCESS TO NEW TALENT. MANY OF THE INTERNS WE'VE HIRED AREN'T ORIGINALLY FROM CORPUS CHRISTI, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ALLOW THEM TO DISCOVER THE REAL HEART OF OUR CITY, WHICH IS OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, SMALL BUSINESSES. THEY BUILD A CONNECTION HERE THAT WE HOPE ENCOURAGES THEM TO STAY AFTER GRADUATION. INSTEAD OF LEAVING, LIKE SO MUCH OF OUR YOUNG TALENT DOES. BECAUSE OF JDIP, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HIRE TWO FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AT CONCRETE MARKETING GROUP AND CONCRETE AMPHITHEATER AFTER THEIR GRADUATION DATES. HURRICANE ALLEY WAS ABLE TO BRING IN INTERNS THIS PAST SUMMER. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP TWO INTERNS ON ROTATION AT ALL TIMES. THESE STUDENTS MAKE A LASTING IMPACT ON OUR COMPANIES. WHILE WE GET TO SHOWCASE THE WORK AND EXCITEMENT HAPPENING ACROSS OUR BUSINESSES, IT'S REALLY JUST A PLATFORM FOR THEIR TALENT TO SHINE. THEY FEEL EMPOWERED TO TEST IDEAS, TO GROW AND TO MAKE CHANGES THAT LAST, AND WE, IN TURN, GET TO MENTOR THEM, TEACHING THEM BOTH HARD AND SOFT SKILLS AND GIVING THEM AN IN-PERSON WORKPLACE TO EXPERIENCE THAT NONE OF THEM REALLY HAVE. THIS PROGRAM DOESN'T JUST HELP BUSINESSES LIKE OURS, IT HELPS CORPUS CHRISTI AND IT HELPS YOUNG TALENT HERE, REASONS TO INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY WHILE ALSO GIVING LOCAL BUSINESSES A CHANCE TO STAY AHEAD AND GET AHEAD OF THE CURVE IN LEARNING FROM THE NEW GENERATION THAT'S STR STRENGTHENING OUR WORKFORCE TODAY. KEEPING TALENT IN CORPUS CHRISTI IS VITAL TO OUR GROWTH AND JPID HAS SHOWN US JUST HOW POWERFUL THAT COLLABORATION CAN BE BETWEEN BUSINESS AND HIGHER EDUCATION. WE ARE DEEPLY GRATEFUL FOR IT, AND I URGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM, SO BUSINESSES AND OUR STUDENTS CAN BENEFIT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS ADRIAN TREVINO, HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR FOR WATER STREET RESTAURANTS HERE IN DOWNTOWN CORPUS. MADAM MAYOR AND CITY COUNCILMEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO MY COMMENTS TODAY REGARDING THE JOB DEVELOPMENT INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. I FIRST BECAME ACQUAINTED WITH THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM THROUGH A FELLOW BOARD MEMBER OF THE DOWNTOWN MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IN 2023 AND WE'VE UTILIZED IT SINCE THEN. WE'VE EMPLOYED SEVERAL STUDENTS IN THE MARKETING AND GRAPHIC DESIGNS FIELDS OF STUDY AND I WANT TO SHARE A COUPLE OF THEIR STORIES WITH YOU. OUR FIRST INTERN CHRIS GONZALES WORKED FOR US FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF. HE GRADUATED AND HE WANTED TO GAIN SOME OUTSIDE EXPERIENCE GROWING UP HERE IN CORPUS, SO AS HE WAS LOOKING IN HIS JOB SEARCHES, WE ACTUALLY DECIDED TO KEEP HIM EMPLOYED PAST THE PROGRAM. I'M PROUD TO SAY HE'S NOW WORKING FOR THE HEU HOUSTON SOCCER TEAM AND WE STILL UTILIZE HIS GRAPHICS IN OUR MARKET TODAY. CAMERON IS OUR CURRENT INTERN, STUDYING MARKETING AND REALLY TRULY A GEM OF A STUDENT AND AN EMPLOYEE. HIS PLAN IS TO STAY IN THIS AREA AND TO GROW HIS FAMILY A LOCAL BUSINESS OF HIS OWN AND HE'S VERY ENTHUSIASTIC, HUNGRY TO LEARN AND VERY EASY TO COACH. I FEEL LIKE THE SUCCESS AND AMBITION OF THE STUDENTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES BUT AS THE EMPLOYER, WE KNOW WE TAKE ALL OF THE FINANCIAL RISKS WHEN HIRING AN EMPLOYEE AND THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM ALLOWS THE EMPLOYER FINANCIAL RELIEF WHILE CREATING A SAFE SPACE FOR THE STUDENT AS THEY NAVIGATE THROUGH WHAT THEY'RE LEARNING AND TRANSLATE IT INTO THE WORKING WORLD. NOT ONLY DOES OUR BUSINESS BENEFIT BECAUSE OF THE WORK THEY PRODUCE, BUT WE'RE NOT BURDENED WITH TRAINING IN ADDITION TO THE FULL FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOURLY PAY RATE. IN TURN, WE OBSERVE THE STUDENT AND THEY'RE GIVEN THE TIME AND ENVIRONMENT TO BE READ ID TO WORK AFTER -- READY TO WORK AFTER GRADUATION WHILE BUILDING THEIR RESUME WITH REPUTABLE BUSINESSES. SO ON BEHALF OF WATER STREET, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS PROGRAM. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? >> HI, MY NAME'S LAURA LIRM MA AND I'M FROM CORPUS CHRISTI. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME IS LAURA LIRMA FOUNDER OF ELITE, LLC, SMALL BUSINESS PROUDLY BASED IN CORPUS CHRISTI. I'M HERE TO SHARE MY JOURNEY AND EXPRESS STRONG SUPPORT FOR DEL MAR COLLEGE AND THESE PROGRAMS. AFTER MORE THAN A DECADE IN PRO POSITIONAL PRODUCTS INDUSTRY, I SAW THE NEED FOR A ONE-STOP SHOP OFFERING THESE SERVICES. ELITE PROMO LAUNCHED IN 2021. BEFORE FORMING THE BUSINESS, I REACHED OUT TO APEX ACCELERATOR FOR GUIDANCE ON THE TEXAS HUB CERTIFICATION. MY ADVISER, NANCY PHILLIPS, EXPLAINED TO ME THE REQUIREMENTS AND REFERRED ME TO THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER TO HELP BUILD A STRONG FOUNDATION. ONCE MY LLC WAS FORMED, I RETURNED TO THE APEX ACCELERATOR AND WITH MRS. PHILLIPS' HELP, I COMPLETED THE HUB CERTIFICATION AND WAS OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED IN APRIL 2021. IN JULY OF THAT SAME YEAR, I PURSUED A BID OPPORTUNITY WITH THE GOODBYE PURCHASING COOPERATIVE. THE APEX ACCELERATOR GUIDED ME THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS, FROM ACCOUNT SETUP TO BID SUBMISSION. ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, I WAS AWARDED THE CONTRACT OPENING DOORS TO PARTNERSHIPS WITH SCHOOLS COLLEGES UNIVERSITIES AND THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI DEPARTMENTS ACROSS TEXAS. ELITE PROMO WAS STARTED OUT OF MY HOME WITH ONE PART-TIME EMPLOYEE. EXCUSE ME. BY 2024, I HAD SAVED ENOUGH CAPITAL TO OPEN A STOREFRONT INCREASING VISIBILITY AND SALES. THE PART-TIME EMPLOYEE BECAME A FULL-TIME, AND I ADDED TWO SALES REP TO SUPPORT OUR GROWTH. SINCE 2021, OUR SALES HAVE INCREASED BY OVER 400%. WE NOW SERVE COLLEGES IN CORPUS CHRISTI, HOUSTON, LAREDO, SKILLS ACROSS NUECES COUNTY AND MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS ACROSS TEXAS. ELITE PROMO SUCCESS IS A DIRECT RESULT OF THE EXPERT GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT PROVIDED BY THE APEX ACCELERATOR, ALL AT NO COST. I'M DEEPLY GRATEFUL AND PROUD TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF OUR CITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONTINUED SUPPORT OF SMALL BUSINESSES LIKE MINE. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: ANYONE ELSE? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M LENORA KEYS, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER AT DEL MAR COLLEGE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK I CAN SAY ANY MORE THAN THIS GROUP BEHIND ME DID TODAY. THEY DO REPRESENT, I THINK, WHAT THIS EFFORT HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO AND REALLY THIS PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY, THE COLLEGE, AND I'D SAY FOR A&M, TOO, WE JUST GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MRS. KEYS. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC -- WELL, YOU ALREADY SMOKE, MA'AM, BUT THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND I WANT TO -- I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU WHO ARE HERE, AND I WANT TO THANK THE UNIVERSITY, I WANT TO THANK DEL MAR COLLEGE, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE LAURA ESTRADA, RAISE YOUR HAND SITTING BACK THERE, YOU'RE A BIG FORCE BEHIND -- WELL, WE CAN'T CLAP, BUT -- WE CAN'T BREAK DECORUM, BUT, NO, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOU ALL BECAUSE AS A PREVIOUS SMALL BUSINESS OWNER MYSELF, I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE. AND I DIDN'T HAVE THIS BACK THEN. AND SO THIS IS AMAZING. BECAUSE YOU'VE BUILT MORE -- WHAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU ALL IS CLEAR WHAT YOU STATED, BUT WHAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS DAIS IS SOMETHING WAY MORE THAN THE LOAN OR THE HELP IN GROWTH RKT. IT'S COMMUNITY, AND YOU SEE THAT IN ALL OF YOU HERE, SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO BE HERE, AND LETTING THESE COUNCILMEMBERS AND MYSELF KNOW JUST THE IMPORTANCE OF HOW MUCH THIS REALLY IMPACTS, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT PARTNERSHIPS DO. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, LAURA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR STRONG LEADERSHIP. WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON? >> Paxson: THANK YOU, MAYOR. RANDY, I HAVE TO THANK YOU. THERE'S A LOT THAT WE DEAL WITH UP HERE EVERY WEEK AND IT'S ALL VERY IMPORTANT, BUT THIS IS COMMUNITY, BEING ABLE TO HAVE THESE BEAUTIFUL FACES THAT EMBODY SOME OF THE BEST AND STRONGEST ASPECTS OF THIS CITY HERE TODAY TO TELL US ABOUT THAT AND GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO, ONCE AGAIN, RENEW AND SAY, LET'S BE PARTNERS MORE. LET'S TAKE WHAT WE HAVE FOR RESOURCES AND YOUR TALENT, DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS CITY AND LET'S MAKE IT EXPONENTIALLY STRONGER. SO THANK YOU FOR -- FOR BEING THAT AVENUE TODAY AND LETTING US HAVE A LITTLE -- A LITTLE BIT OF THIS GREAT NEWS. WE NEED A LOT MORE OF THESE STORIES, BECAUSE THEY'RE HERE, THEY'RE REAL, AND THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY. AND IT'S WORTH EVERY BIT OF IT. SO THANK YOU ALL. DON'T EVER STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THANK YOU FOR MAKING US PROUD. >> YES. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY TO THAT, COUNCILWOMAN, WE STARTED THIS LAST YEAR BRINGING THESE TESTIMONIALS TO SHOW THAT FULL IMPACT OF WHAT THESE PROGRAMS DO. YOU KNOW, THESE PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE 2008, I BELIEVE, AND NOT ALL EIGHT, IT'S BUILT UP WITH THE LAST ONE BEING CYBER, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS Y'ALL ARE APPROVING THESE, IT'S NOT A CHECK IN THE BOX. WE WANT TO SHOW THAT YOU HAVE REAL IMPACT WHEN YOU APPROVE THESE PROGRAMS. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS? >> Campos: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT HAS BEEN SAID, WE HAVE A NEW BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING OUT THERE ON WILLIAMS, SYNERGY, AND EVEN THEY SPELL IT DIFFERENTLY, BUT I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED IN OUR CITY IS THAT CINERGY, THE CINERGY THAT COMES FROM DEL MAR, THAT COMES FROM THE UNIVERSITY, AND THAT COMES FROM US, YOU KNOW, THE CITY, WORKING TOGETHER TO, AGAIN, BE WITNESS TO THESE TESTIMONIALS, BECAUSE IT'S -- YOU KNOW, THIS IS -- THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE JUST STARTED, AT LEAST THE INTERNSHIP, NOT TOO LONG AGO, AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS MISSING, SO I'M GLAD THAT I'M HERE TO WITNESS AND SEE PART OF THAT GROWTH. I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A SHOUTOUT TO ONE OF THE PERSONS THAT IS OUT, WHICH IS DARCY SHAW. I MET HER MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. SHE CAME FROM OUT OF THE AREA AND STARTED WORKING FOR DEL MAR AND DOING THAT KIND OF WORK, AND I NEVER REALLY REALIZED THE IMPACT THAT SHE MADE, BUT I CAN SEE IT HERE, AND I -- YOU KNOW, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, AND I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN EXPAND IT IN THE FUTURE. SO THANK YOU, AGAIN, RANDY. >> YES, MA'AM. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WITH THAT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> City Secretary: I THINK WE HAD ONE. PARDON. >> City Secretary: WE HAD ONE ON THE FLOOR, A MOTION AND SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. A MOATIONZ AND SECOND. PLEASE SUP M SUBMIT YOUR VOTE.MR. CANTU ? >> Cantu: AYE. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, RANDY. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, THANK YOU COUNCIL. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM K, WHICH IS OUR BRIEFINGS, AND THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 25, A BRIEFING FROM SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY. DO WE HAVE. >> Zanoni: I'M NOT SURE IF JOHN MARES IS HERE YET. CAN YOU GUYS SEE IF JOHN MARES IS OUT THERE? WE'RE GOING TO CHECK REAL QUICK, MAYOR, TO SEE IF HE'S HERE. >> Mayor Guajardo: OH. >> Barrera: HE PLANNED TO COME AT 9:00 P.M. >> Zanoni: WHAT WITH US THAT? WAS THAT? OKAY. HE'S HERE. MAYOR, WHILE HE'S WALKING UP, SERGIO'S HERE TO TALK TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT RECONFIRMING THE TABULATION OF THAT 100% ON THE FREESE & NICHOLS CONTRACT. >> Mayor Guajardo: DO WE WANT TO DO THAT NOW. >> Zanoni: YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND. >> Mayor Guajardo: SURE, LET'S DO THAT. JUST FOR THE PUBLIC -- YOU KNOW WHAT, WE DIDN'T DO ITEM 2. LET'S DO ITEM 2 REALLY QUICKLY. >> City Secretary: THANKS, MAYOR, OH, MY GOODNESS. ITEM TWO IS JUST THE MINUTES, THE CAPTION ON THE AGENDA SHOWS WE WOULD BE APPROVING THE SEPTEMBER 9 MEETINGS AND THOSE AREN'T READY YET SO WHAT BE'D LIKE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AUGUST 21ST AND 28TH, I BELIEVE. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. >> City Secretary: YES, AUGUST 21ST AND 28TH WORKSHOP MEETING MINUTES, IF WE CAN HAVE THAT MOTION, PLEASE. >> MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. >> City Secretary: OH, MR. CANTU? >> Cantu: AYE. >> City Secretary: THANKS. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO ITEM -- WHAT ITEM WAS THAT, PETER, DO YOU KNOW? >> City Secretary: 22. >> Zanoni: I THINK IT'S 22. >> Mayor Guajardo: 22. ITEM NUMBER 22. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. SERGIO, DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND PROCUREMENT. JUST SOME INFORMATION ON THE RFQ ITSELF. FIRMS, JUST THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS, FIRMS ARE NOT RANKED AMONGST EACH OTHER HERE. WHAT'S GRADED IS THE RESPONSES TO OUR REQUESTS FOR QUALIFICATIONS. AND SO YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A NICE SPLIT OF THE TECHNICAL PROPOSAL WHICH ARE THE WRITTEN RESPONSES ARE WEIGHTED AT 70%, AND THEN THE INTERVIEW IS WEIGHTED AT 30%. AND SO THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS TO GET IN THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT HERE IS BASED ON THE RESPONSES, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE LOOKS AT ONE FIRM AT A TIME, AND THEY TAKE THOSE RESPONSES, THEY'LL RANK THEM, LET'S SAY, FROM 0 TO 4, 4 BEING THE BEST RESPONSE. SO IF YOU HAVE THE BEST RESPONSE ON YOUR WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION, PROVIDED TO THE CRITERIA THE CITY IS ASKING FOR, YOU'LL GET 4 POINTS, WHICH IS THEN CONVERTED TO -- ON A PRO RATA BASIS TO A SCORE OF 7, RIGHT? SO LET'S SAY YOUR RESPONSE IS GREAT, YOU'LL GET A 4, THAT GIVES YOU SEVEN POINTS. YOUR RESPONSE DIDN'T MEET ALL THE CRITERIA THAT'S IN OUR RFQ, LET'S SAY YOU'RE GIVEN A 3, THEN YOU END UP WITH A 6.3 POINTS. THAT'S WHY ONE WOULD END UP WITH A PERFECT SCORE. YES, THE SCORE IS RIGHT. THE TABULATION IN THE PACKET IS 100% CORRECT AND I JUST PROVIDED SOME FEEDBACK ON HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. IT IS BASED ON THE RESPONSES PROVIDED -- WRITTEN RESPONSES PROVIDED AND GRADED BY THE INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEES, AND FIRMS ARE NOT COMPARED TO EACH OTHER. SO... I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON? >> Paxson: THANK YOU, MAYOR. HAS ANY WORK ALREADY BEEN DONE ON THIS PROJECT BY THE PROPOSED PROFESSIONAL TEAM? >> Edmonds: SO PART OF THE REASON THEY WERE RANKED AS HIGH AS THEY WERE, SO THEY WERE HIRED UNDER A SMALL CONTRACT BACK IN, I WANT TO SAY, 2018 -- NO, THIS WAS EARLIER THAN THAT. IT WAS PROBABLY '17 TIME FRAME TO LOOK AT THE NECESSITY OF HAVING THIS ROAD THERE. AND SO THEY WERE FAMILIAR WITH THAT. ADDITIONALLY, WE GAVE THEM A TASK ORDER ON AN MSA TO LOOK AT SOME VARIOUS CONFIGURATIONS ON THIS, AND WHEN THEY WERE BEGINNING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER, THEY WERE LOOKING AT AN OPEN DITCH, HOW WIDE OF A DITCH WOULD WE NEED, AND FOR THE ROAD, WHAT WOULD WE NEED, HOW MUCH COLLECTIVE RIGHT OF WAY WOULD WE NEED FOR A DITCH AND THE ROADWAY, SO THEY HAD A LOT OF FAMILIARITY WITH THE PROJECT. BUT, NO, WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY STARTED WORK ON THIS CONTRACT FOR DESIGN. >> Zanoni: WHAT JEFF'S SAYING IS THE ANSWER IS YES. THERE'S PROBABLY -- HOW MUCH, 30,000 40,000? >> Edmonds: WELL, IT'S BEEN PROBABLY CLOSE TO 250,000. >> Zanoni: 250,000. SO THEY HAVE DONE -- AS THIS PROJECT HAS EVOLVED OVER THE PAST TWO PLUS YEARS, ANALYSIS AND PREENGINEERING WORK HAS BEEN DONE AND THE FIRM FREESE & NICHOLS WAS THE SELECTED FIRM TO DO THAT WORK. IN PART, THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THEM, TOO, NOT ONLY DID THEY SCORE WELL, BUT BECAUSE THEY ALREADY UNDERSTOOD THE SYSTEM, THAT ROAD SYSTEM AND THE DRAINAGE AND THAIF OO DONE SOME PREDESIGN WORK, IF WE GO TO THE NUMBER TWO RANKED FIRM, LJA, THE FREESE & NICHOLS' WORK THAT WE'VE PAID FOR WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE UTILIZED. >> Paxson: SO IS THAT 250 GOING BACK INTO THIS 44 MILLION. >> Zanoni: THE 44. >> Edmonds: NO, THIS WAS PAID WITH OTHER FUNDS. I DON'T THINK IT WAS PAID WITH THESE FUNDS. >> Paxson: BUT YOU'RE SAYING WHERE WE WOULD LOSE IT IS BECAUSE LJA WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO THAT WORK. >> Zanoni: YEAH. IT WOULD BE LIKE A YEAR'S WORTH OF NOT INTENSE, BUT A YEAR'S WORTH OF ANALYSIS THAT WOULD BE LOST, ESSENTIALLY. >> Paxson: AND THE QUOTE THAT WE HAVE HERE, THE TOTAL. >> Edmonds: IT'S JUST UNDER $2 MILLION. NOW, THEY WERE -- THERE'S 4 MILLION FUNDED FOR DESIGN, SO IT'S ROUGHLY HALF, IF YOU ADD THE 250 WE'VE ALREADY SPENT, IT'S STILL WELL BELOW WHAT WAS BUDGETED FOR DESIGN MONEY. >> Paxson: OKAY. BUT THE 40 THAT WE HAVE BUDGETED IN '25 -- >> Edmonds: NOW, THAT WAS THE OLD CIP PAGE, THE PAGE IN THE CIP BOOK THAT WAS JUST APPROVED, THERE'S NO CONSTRUCTION MONEY. SO IT'S JUST SHOWING THE 4.3 MILLION TYPE B MONEY IS ALL THAT'S IN THAT PROJECT CURRENTLY. >> Paxson: AND SO WHAT I'M -- WHAT I'M SEEING OR WHAT I'M TRYING TO GUESSTIMATE OR ESTIMATE HERE WITH THESE FIGURES IS THIS IS ANOTHER DESIGN-BID-BUILD -- >> Edmonds: YES. >> Zanoni: CORRECT. WE'LL DESIGN IT, IT WILL TAKE OVER A YEAR, AND THEN OVER THESE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WE'LL SEE IS THERE CAPACITY IN THAT 1/8 SPZ CENT FLOOD CONTROL FUNDING, IS THIS A CANDIDATE PROJECT FOR THAT, AND IF NOT, THEN IS THE BOND PROGRAM A GOOD PROJECT OR -- IT MAY TAKE US SEVERAL ITERATIONS TO GENERATE THE FUNDING, AND IT COULD BE A PHASED PROJECT. WE'RE GOING TO DESIGN THE WHOLE THING, BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE FROM ONE -- FROM THE START TO THE END, SO THE WHOLE STRETCH WILL BE DESIGNED, BUT THE FUNDING FOR CONSTRUCTION MAY HAVE TO PHASE IN OVER NUMEROUS YEARS. IT COULD TAKE SEVERAL BOND PROGRAMS. >> Paxson: AND WHAT DO WE HAVE -- BECAUSE I SEE THE TOTALS, I PRESUME THE TOTALS ON THIS CIP PAGE, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THE PROJECT. WHAT DO WE HAVE FOR BUMPER BARS TO KEEP US IN REASONABLE RANGE SINCE WE'RE WALKING INTO ANOTHER DESIGN-BID-BUILD ON A BIG PROJECT. >> Edmonds: WELL, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ESTABLISH THAT PHASING AND GIVE THEM AN IDEA. WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE DIALOGUE WITH THE CONSULTANT OVER WHAT WE WANT TO BITE OFF IN THIS FIRST PHASE, YOU KNOW, TRY AND HAVE THEM DESIGN TO SOMETHING THAT FITS WITHIN OUR AVAILABLE FUNDING. >> Zanoni: SO SOME THINGS WE'VE DONE ALREADY IS THE REST OF WILLIAMS, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR BACK IT GOES, BUT THAT'S A FIVE-LANE ROAD AND IT'S TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION AND A CENTER TURN LANE. ALREADY WE'VE MADE THE DECISION THAT THIS DOESN'T NEED TO HAVE THAT WIDTH TO IT. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROAD TRAFFIC. I DON'T THINK THE RIGHT OF WAY'S THERE ANYWAY, YOU'D HAVE TO CONDEMN, SO IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A TWO-LANE SECTION, ONE IN EACH DIRECTION, WITH SOME MINIMUM TURN LANES, INTERMITTENT, I SHOULD SAY, TURN LANES, SO ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION. THAT WILL REDUCE THE OVERALL EXPENSE. THE MAJORITY, THOUGH, AGAIN, OF THE EXPENSE, THOUGH, IS IN THE DRAINAGE, THE UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE CULVERT SYSTEM THAT WILL REMOVE STORMWATER, NOT ONLY FROM THE ROAD, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE ON THAT BIG TRACT OF LAND. >> Paxson: SO TODAY'S ACTION BEGINS NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE VENDOR. >> Zanoni: TODAY'S ACTION WOULD APPROVE A CONTRACT FOR FREESE & NICHOLS TO DESIGN THIS ROAD AND DRAINAGE SECTION. >> Paxson: AND THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD TALK ABOUT, WHAT'S WHAT I MEAN, THE PRICING. >> Zanoni: YES. FROM THAT, OVER TIME, A PROBABLE COST ESTIMATE, LIKE A GOOD LEVEL, LEVEL 3, LEVEL 4 ENGINEERING ESTIMATE WILL COME FROM IT. TODAY, WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT $50 MILLION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT BASED ON INPUT FROM THE PREDESIGN WORK FROM FREESE & NICHOLS, BUT WE WON'T REALLY HAVE A FIRM PRICE TAG UNTIL MORE OF THE DESIGN WORK IS DONE UH-HUH. >> Paxson: AND WE FEEL CONFIDENT ON THOSE NUMBERS BASED ON THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT? >> Zanoni: THE 50 MILLION OR THE -- NO, WE DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT -- IT HASN'T BEEN DESIGNED. BUT JUST BASED ON THE LENGTH AND THE AMOUNT OF MATERIAL THAT WOULD BE USED TO CONVEY THE STORMWATER -- >> Paxson: AND EDUCATED GUESS. >> Zanoni: YEAH, IT'S AN ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE BUT IT'S NOT A REFINED PROBABLE COST ESTIMATE. >> Edmonds: IT'S NOT BASED ON COMPLETED DESIGN DRAWINGS. >> Paxson: SURE, SURE. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. >> Paxson: THANK YOU. COUNCILMA N HERNANDEZ? >> Hernandez: THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO YOU HAVE THIS AS A C1 COLLECTOR? >> Zanoni: LET'S HAVE ERNIE. ERNIE, IS IT A C1 COLLECTOR? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> Hernandez: WHY WOULDN'T YOU HAVE THIS AS A C2 WITH SCIFNT TURNING LANE DOWN THE -- CONSISTENT TURNING LANE DOWN THE CENTER OF IT? >> I THINK THE WIDTH ACCOMMODATES THAT FOR THE C1. >> Hernandez: THE C1 IS 40 FEET, RIGHT, THE C2 IS 42 FEET FOR PAVEMENT. >> I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. >> Hernandez: WITH FIVE ADDITIONAL FEELT OF EASEMENT. >> I WANT TO SAY THE C1 ALLOWS FOR TWO LANES AND A LEFT TURN LANE, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENTS IN FRONT OF ME. >> Hernandez: WELL, IT'S NOT IN THE DESIGN MANUAL. I'M LOOKING AT YOU, JEFF. >> Edmonds: YEAH. RIGHT. I WANT -- >> SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, A LEFT-TURN LANE SHOULD BE ACCOMMODATED WITH A C1. >> Hernandez: IT'S ONLY A ONE-FOOT DIFFERENCE IN C1, C2. >> CORRECT. YEAH, IT'S 60 SPHEET AND 75-FOOT RIGHT OF WAY I BELIEVE IS THE DELTA. 60 AND 75 IS THE RIGHT OF WAY DIFFERENCES. BUT I DON'T HAVE THE MASTER PLAN IN FRONT OF ME TO GIVE YOU SPECIFICS. >> Hernandez: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ERNIE, THANK YOU. WITH REGARDS TO HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE PAID FOR, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THAT ASSESSMENT WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE STREET IS MAYBE BOND, THE STORMWATER PORTION IS THROUGH THE 1/8 CENT SALES TAX. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. >> Hernandez: YOU HAVE VARIOUS OPTIONS, I'M NOT TOO CONCERNED ABOUT THAT HERE; HOWEVER, WITH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS ON THE RATINGS OF THE RFQS, YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE, BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T LOOK -- IT DOES HAVEN'T THE PROPER APPEARANCE IN PERCEPTION OF WHAT THIS IS. NOW, I'M NOT -- YOU KNOW, -- >> IF I CAN ADD, COUNCIL, SOME OF THE SAFEGUARDS THE CITY HAS IN PLACE, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE GRADERS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS. YOU ALSO HAVE OUTSIDE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE SITTING ON -- VIEWING THE MEETINGS. IN THIS CASE, WE HAD ERNIE, SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONTROLS TO MITIGATE ANY KIND OF COLLUSION, RIGHT, SO YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE MULTIPLE FOLKS PARTICIPATING, SO THAT'S THE BEST -- THAT'S THE GOOD SETUP THAT WE HAVE. >> Hernandez: WELL, IT JUST TAKES ONE PERSON, RIGHT? YOU CAN HAVE SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, GIVING TOP SCORES TO ONE ANDN LOW SCORES TO OTHERS, AND YOU TANK THE PROCESS. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> Hernandez: DO YOU HAVE A METHOD OF THROWING OUT THE HIGH SCORE AND THE LOW SCORE? >> I'M SORRY. >> Hernandez: DO YOU HAVE THE METHOD OF THROWING OUT THE HIGH SCORE AND THE LOW SCORE FOR EACH ONE OF THE ELEMENTS? >> NO, WE DON'T. WE TAKE WHATEVER'S BEING RANKED, THE SCORE SHEETS, AND USING WHAT'S BEING SCORED. >> Hernandez: SO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO LEAN IN IT ONE WAY THEY COULD. >> YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ALL FOLKS LEAN THAT SAME WAY ON OUR -- IT DEPENDS. THE SCORING POINT MECHANISM, BUT WHAT THE CITY DOES, HAS MULTIPLE FOLKS IN THERE TO PREVENT -- IT'S JUST THE BASIC SEPARATION OF DUTIES. YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME PERSON DOING THE SAME THING. SO BY HAVING MULTIPLE FOLKS, YOU KIND OF MITIGATE THAT RISK, SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TO HELP PROTECT THE CITY FROM THOSE KIND OF ARRANGEMENTS OR -- >> Hernandez: DIDN'T QUITE WORK THIS TIME. >> I'M SORRY? >> Hernandez: IT DIDN'T QUITE WORK THIS TIME. >> Edmonds: COUNCILMAN, I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD ONE THING ON THAT. SO THERE WERE THREE FOLKS FROM MY SHOP ON IT. WE HAD TWO FOLKS UPSTAIRS, WE HAD ONE PERSON FROM CONSTRUCTION, AND WE HAD TWO PEOPLE FROM PUBLIC WORKS THAT WERE EVALUATORS. AND THEY CONFIRMED THEY HAD ALL GIVEN THE TOP SCORE TO FREESE & NICHOLS, AND MY INTERPRETATION OF THAT IS THEY PROBABLY ALL AGREED THAT FREESE & NICHOLS WAS THE BEST, AND THEN THEY MOVED DOWN FROM THERE TO THE OTHER FIRMS. THE TOP 3 PEOPLE THAT WERE SELECTED GOT PROJECTS, I THINK WE THOUGHT THIS WAS THE MOST DESIRABLE PROJECT, WE USUALLY MAP MOST DESIRABLE TO THE HIGHEST RANKED FIRM. I THINK FREESE PROBABLY WOULD SAY THEY WISHED THEY HAD BEEN RANKED TWO OR THREE ON THIS ONE, BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING ALREADY ON THEIR PROJECT. >> Hernandez: I SEE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMA N SCOTT? >> Scott: JUST -- MARK SCOTT THINKS THE PROCESS WORKED. I THINK YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB. I TRUST YOUR OPINIONS. FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD TODAY, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT WOULD CAUSE ME ANY CONCERN. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BASED ON A COUPLE THINGS. ONE, YOU TALKED ABOUT PHASING. YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T SPEND A LOT OF ENERGY NLING UNLESS THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT ON THE REST OF THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD REQUIRE MITIGATING THAT ADDITIONAL RUNOFF. I ALSO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE YOU'RE REDUCING THE LANES, AND THAT -- I JUST DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF -- YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THAT, BUT I APPRECIATE IT. JUST THOUGHT YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW GOING IN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 22. >> Barrera: I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND MAI. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE.MR. CAN? >> Cantu: AYE. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, MR. EDMONDS. NOW WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE BRIEFING ON THE SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY. >> >> Zanoni: ARE YOU GOING TO INTRODUCE IT, NICK? NICK'S GOING TO DO A QUICK INTRODUCTION. DID YOU GUYS PASS OUT THE POWERPOINT? >> Winkelmann: YOU KNOW, WE JUST GOT IT. IT'S LOADED ON THE SCREEN. WE DON'T HAVE HARD COPIES ON IT. >> Zanoni: WE DID PUT IT IN THE GRAN CUSS ICUS SYSTEM, SO IF ANYBODY WANTS A PAPER COPY, LET ME KNOW. >> Winkelmann: NICK WINKELMANN, INTERIM COO OF CORPUS CHRISTI WATER. I'M INTRODUCING THE BRIEFING FROM SOUTH TEXAS WATER ASSOCIATION, JOHN MARES IS HERE TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THEIR PROJECT. AND AS PETER MENTIONED, WE JUST GOT THE POWER POINT JUST RECENTLY, SO WE DON'T HAVE HARD COPIES FOR EVERYONE. . >> Zanoni: WE'RE MAKING THEM RIGHT NOW, NICK, SO WE'LL PASS THEM OUT TO THE COUNCIL. >> Winkelmann: JOHN, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JOHN MARES WITH SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY SERVING IN THE ROLE AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THEM AND CONSULTANT FOR THEM. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO YOU JUST AN UPDATE OF SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE. IT'S A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION. I WAS HOPING THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A COPY OF THIS EARLIER, BUT I WILL SHARE WITH YOU WHAT WILL BE PUT UP ON THE SCREEN IS THAT ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, THE SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPROVED THE OFFERING OF WATER TO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. THIS IS WATER THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE, BUT WATER THAT IS -- IF ALL WORKS WELL WITH THE SEVEN SEAS PARTNERSHIP, WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS NOT JUST A VERBAL DISCUSSION OR AGREEMENT OR UNDERSTANDING, THAT IT WAS AN ACTUAL VOTE, AND SO THAT DID TAKE PLACE. AND THERE WAS A FULL SUPPORT OF THE BOARD FOR THAT TO OCCUR. SO THIS IS AN OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION THAT ON THAT BOARD MEETING, THE BOARD DID TAKE THAT ACTION AND MADE IT OFFICIAL IN A PUBLIC VOTE. WATER QUALITY IS LISTED FOR YOU AS WATER QUALITY RESULTS REQUESTED BY CITY STAFF HAVE BEEN PROVIDED. THEY WERE PROVIDED, I BELIEVE, YESTERDAY OR MAYBE JUST PRIOR TO THAT, BUT ALL THIS IS MOVING QUICKLY FOR US, AND SO TRYING TO GET THIS INFORMATION TO YOU BY TODAY. THAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED BY OUR PARTNERS AT SEVEN SEAS, THAT'S NOT DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED BY SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY. SO WE HAD TO WAIT FOR THAT TO BE PROCESSED, AND IT GO THROUGH LEGAL HURDLES TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS ABLE TO BE PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC, BUT THAT IS THERE FOR YOU. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, UNREDACTED; IS THAT CORRECT? UNREDACTED. AND SO THAT IS ALL THE DATA THAT YOU HAVE. IT'S A PRETTY TECHNICAL PIECE. WE WILL LET YOUR ENGINEERING TEAM, YOUR WATER TEAM DECIPHER THAT FOR YOU. THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE MORE VERSED INTO WATER, WE CAN DISCUSS SOME OF THE TALKING POINTS ABOUT IT, BUT WE HAVE SEVEN SEAS ON HAND TO DISCUSS THAT FOR YOU. AND OUR OWN ENGINEERING REPRESENTATIVES TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF STWA. THE PURCHASED WATER, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE, OF COURSE, ALL TO EXCEED TCEQ PRIMARY AND SECONDARY DRINKING WATER REQUIREMENTS, STANDARDS. AND THE VOLUME IS OUR CURRENT COMMITMENT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE IS ONLY A 3 MGD PLANT, BUT WE KNOW THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR UP SIZE, AND THAT HAS BEEN WHAT OUR DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN WITH YOU BEFORE, AND WE'RE HERE TO COMMIT TO THAT AGAIN TODAY, TO BE ABLE TO BRING TO YOU A FINAL UPDATE WHICH WE ANTICIPATE WILL BE ON -- NO LATER THAN OCTOBER 14TH, AND MY COMMITMENT TO YOU IS THAT WE WILL HAVE ALL THAT DATA TO YOUR TEAM AT LEAST A WEEK PRIOR SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE THEM DIGEST IT AND PRESENT A PROPER SUMMARY AND REVIEW TO THE COUNCIL AND TO YOUR MANAGEMENT TEAM. THAT'S MY COMMITMENT TO YOU. SO THERE IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THERE, AND SO VERY QUICK BRIEFING, BUT WE WANTED TO COME HERE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THIS DATE HAD BEEN SET AND SOME DATES HAD BEEN MOVED BACK AND FORTH, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT THAT HAS BEEN WAVERING IN THIS SUBJECT. ONCE AGAIN, WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT FOR STWA THAT THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT FOR US TO PROVIDE A SECONDARY WATER SOURCE, AT LEAST, WITH THE POTENTIAL UPSIZE TO A PRIMARY WATER SITE DEPENDING ON HOW NEGOTIATES GO. AND WE APPRECIATE NICK AND HIS TEAM FOR PROVIDING A QUICK MEETING FOR US AT THE END OF LAST WEEK TO GET A STANDING WHERE WE'RE AT, BAW WE'RE HAVING TO NEGOTIATE THE END OF THE 40-YEAR WATER AGREEMENT THAT STARTED BETWEEN THE CITY AND STWA, THAT WAS SIGNED BY CITY MANAGEMENT FOR 12/31/25 TO END AND I SIGNED REPRESENTING STWA MANAGEMENT. THAT IS THE BOUNDARY THAT WE FACE, IN ADDITION TO POSSIBLY ANOTHER WATER CONTRACT IF WE END UP BEING THE WATER PROVIDED TO YOU. THAT'S LOOKING WAY AHEAD, THE ONE CONSTANT WE KNOW IS WE DO HAVE A 3 MGD PLANT TO PROVIDE A SECONDARY SOURCE THAT OUR BOARD HAS ALWAYS ASKED FOR AND WILL HELP US BE DROUGHT RESILIENT WHICH WE ALL CAN APPRECIATE, AND HOPEFULLY WILL TAKE OFF SOME OF THAT DEMAND THAT IS PLACED ON THE OVERALL SYSTEM FOR CCW. THOSE ARE THE THINGS I CAN TELL YOU WITH CERTAINTY TODAY AND GUARANTEE YOU TODAY, THAT THAT'S WHAT OUR BOARD IS SUPPORTING AND THAT'S WHAT WE AS MANAGEMENT TEAM HAVE BEEN PROVIDING SUPPORTING ALONG WITH OUR LEGAL COUNCIL MR. CHARLIE ZAHN AND OUR TEAM AT ICE ENGINEERING. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO GIVE, NOT OUT OF LACK OF WANTING TO BUT THIS IS AS MUCH AS I HAVE AS FAR AS TECHNICAL INFORMATION FOR YOU TODAY. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN SCOTT? >> Scott: HEY, THANKS, JOHN. -- THANKS. SO THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS IS BETWEEN THE CITY AND SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY? AND THEN YOU WOULD BUY WATER FROM SEVEN SEAS? >> YES. >> Scott: OKAY. SO I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN THE CONTRACT BETWEEN YOU AND SEVEN SEAS BECAUSE IT WOULD AFFECT, I GUESS, OUR AGREEMENT WITH YOU. AND YOU GUYS AREN'T PUBLICLY DISCLOSING, OR ARE YOU, WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE WATER? CAN YOU TELL US WHAT SEVEN SEAS HAS CONTRACTED TO BUY WATER -- SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY IS CONTRACTED TO BUY WATER FROM SEVEN SEAS. >> MY NAME'S CHARLIE ZAHN AND I'M COUNCIL FOR SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY. WE HAVE A WATER SUPPLY AGREEMENT THAT MY BOARD ENTERED INTO WITH SEVEN SEAS FOR SEVEN SEAS TO PROVIDE, AS JOHN SAID, 3 MILLION-GALLONS OF TREATED BRACKISH WATER TO SOUTSOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY. AND IN THAT AGREEMENT, THERE'S A -- WE'VE PROVIDED IT TO YOUR STAFF, COUNCILMAN SCOTT, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH >> RA JIRATIONS EVERY TIME WE GET A REQUEST FOR DOCUMENT INVOLVING SEVEN SEAS, I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEIR COUNCIL TO GET THEM TO GIVE US PERMISSION TO DISCLOSE. BUT WE WORKED OUT WITH THEIR AUSTIN COUNCIL AND MR. RISLEY THE ABILITY TO GET THAT DOCUMENT TO YOU. I WILL TL YOU THERE'S NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT OUT THERE, BUT UNTIL THE ENGINEERS FINISH THEIR -- THEIR ANALYSIS, I CAN'T GIVE YOU A SET NUMBER ON HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST, BUT WE -- WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXPAND THAT CONTRACT, WHICH IS WHERE WE COME INTO THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. IT'S BEING PROPOSED, I THINK, IN MR. MARES' PRESENTATION TODAY THAT THAT BE 13 MGD A DAY WHICH WOULD BE 3 MILLION TO SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY AND 10 TO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, WITH THE ABILITY TO EXPAND THAT ANOTHER 10 MILLION-GALLONS, AND I'M WORKING ON THAT CONTRACT -- WOULD BE BETWEEN SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY AND THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. I'VE DRAWN THAT CONTRACT, I HAVEN'T PRESENTED IT TO MR. RISLEY YET FOR YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL TO DO THEIR ANALYSIS OF. >> Scott: THAT'S THE THREE -- NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 10, OR 10 MORE THAN THE 10. >> 10 MORE. NO, THE FIRST 10. >> Scott: GOT YOU. AND IF THAT AGREEMENT'S BETWEEN CORPUS AND SEVEN SEAS, THEN I GUESS -- >> THERE IS NO AGREEMENT BETWEEN CORPUS AND SEVEN SEAS. >> Scott: I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT'S WHAT YOU DRAFTED. MY APOLOGIES. >> NO. I DRAFTED AN AGREEMENT WITH SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY AND THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI FOR SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY TO SELL 10 MILLION-GALLONS OF WATER A DAY TO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. >> Scott: YOU'RE GOING TO BE -- JOHN WOULD BUY WATER, Y'ALL WOULD BUY WATER FROM THE SEVEN SEAS. >> WE'RE GOING TO BUY ALL 13 MILLION FROM SEVEN SEAS, YES. >> Scott: AND YOU HAVE NOT PUBLICLY DISCLOSED WHAT THE CONTRACTED WATER PRICE IS, AND I GUESS PART OF IT IS YOU DON'T KNOW. >> WE DOCHT KNOW RIGHT NOW. >> Scott: AND YOU HAVEN'T SHARED THAT WITH YOUR NEIGHBORING CUSTOMERS, ALICE -- NOT ALICE, BUT -- >> RIGHT. >> Scott: BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE INTERESTED. SO IF WE -- IF WE SIGN AN AGREEMENT IN OCTOBER, WHAT HAPPENS WITH OUR AGREEMENT -- THE CITY'S CURRENT AGREEMENT WITH SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY THAT EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS YEAR? >> PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS, MR. SCOTT, ARE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO USE THE EXISTING LINE THAT THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI SUPPLIES WATER TO SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT CONTRACT AS MR. MARES SAYS. THAT CONTRACT NEEDS TO BE RENEGOTIATED BE BY THE END OF THE YEAR. BUT IN TALKS WITH YOUR STAFF, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT IF WE WERE TO SELL WATER TO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, THE TRANSMISSION LINE WOULD BE THAT EXISTING LINE, AND SO WE, IN ESSENCE, WOULD NOT HAVE THAT CONTRACT ANYMORE. >> Scott: RIGHT. SO -- BUT THE TIMING IS WEIRD TO ME -- >> NOW, WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS OF BUILDING -- YOU KNOW, ANOTHER LINE, WHICH WOULD KEEP THAT CONTRACT IN FORCE, BUT -- THE INITIAL DISCUSSIONS, IF WE ENTERED INTO THE AGREEMENT IN OCTOBER THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEN THE AGREEMENT WE NEGOTIATE FOR THE EXISTING CONTRACT WOULD BE NULL AND VOID. >> Scott: RIGHT. AND SO IF WE ENTER AN AGREEMENT IN OCTOBER TO BUY WATER FROM SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY, IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT -- ABOUT SOME -- SOME FUNDS SET ASIDE IN CASE THERE'S A FAILURE IN THE PIPELINE, OR DOES SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY INDEMNIFY THE CITY SHOULD IT NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT AMOUNT OF WATER TO THE CCITY OF CORPUS? >> MR. RISLEY AND I -- >> Scott: THAT IS OF GREAT CONCERN TO ME. >> RIGHT. >> Scott: TO TURN THAT PIPELINE AROUND AND HAVE A TAKE OR PAY CONTRACT THAT RELIES ON A THIRD-PARTY'S OPERATION. >> Risley: ONE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY CANNOT EFFECTIVELY INDEMNIFY ANOTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET INDEMNIFIED. THERE'S CURRENTLY AN EVALUATION OF THAT PIPELINE GOING ON, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONDITION OF THE PIPELINE IS. IT'S GOING TO TAKE -- LAST I HEARD, ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS TO DO THE EVALUATION OF THE PIPELINE, SO WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO KNOW IF THE PIPELINE IS IN GOOD ENOUGH CONDITION TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT WATER FOR HOW LONG. >> Scott: WHAT IS THE ESTIMATED TIMELINE ON THE EVALUATION OF THE PIPELINE? >> I THINK AT THE MOST, EIGHT MONTHS. OUR PUSH IS LESS, BUT ON THE LINE -- THIS IS REAL WOOD, RIGHT? WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY BREACHES OF OUR 42-INCH LINE OF THE 40-YEAR EXISTENCE OF IT. WE HAVE HAD SOME INCIDENTS WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN MAYBE PARTS WHERE OUR LINE IS CLAMPED IN PIECES AND JOINTS, BUT OVERALL, THERE'S NOT EVER BEEN A BREAKAGE. IT IS ROUGHLY HALF OF ITS LIFESPAN, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE'RE HAVING TO DO THAT REGARDLESS, WHETHER WE KEEP GETTING WATER AND RECEIVING WATER, AS A WHOLESALE CUSTOMER FOR CCW, OR IF THIS DOES GET REVERSED. CHARLIE MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE POSSIBILITIES. WE WERE RECENTLY RECOGNIZED BY TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD FOR BEING IN THE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO GET OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDED AT A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. WE'LL TO SAY -- IN TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, AND SO WE HOPE IF THAT GETS FINALIZED IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS UP IN AUSTIN, THAT THAT WILL HELP US BE ABLE TO ADDRESS EITHER CURRENT -- THE CURRENT INFRASTR INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAVE OR POTENTIALLY BUILD A NEW LINE. WE THINK THAT MAY HAPPEN EVEN IF WE DO GO WITH A CONTINUE 3 MGD SOURCE INTERNALLY AND STILL DRAW WATER FROM CCW, WE'LL NEED TWO LINES I WOULD THINK, JUST TRYING TO RUN WATER UNDER ONE LINE AND RECEIVE WATER IN THE SAME LINE, IS NEAR IMPOSSIBLE. I'M SURE NICK AND HIS TEAM WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT TO HAVE THE FUNDING SOURCE WE NEED AND, OF COURSE, OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH SEVEN SEAS IS WE'RE GOING TO TELL THEM HOW MUCH WE NEED. SO CURRENTLY, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THAT TO A CONSERVATIVE AMOUNT. WE'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO HELP PROVIDE A SOLUTION TO THE CITY AND BE ABLE TO BE ONE OF THOSE DIVERSIFIED WATER OPTIONS TO YOU, BUT -- AND WE ARE FEVERISHLY WORKING THROUGH THIS. I MEAN, OUR TINY TEAM IS WORKING ON THIS ALL THE TIME, DAY AND NIGHT, WEEKENDS AND EVERYTHING, SO WE'RE MATCHING THE MIGHT OF CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, BUT WITH OUR 10 OR SO PEOPLE WHO ARE CONSTANTLY INVOLVED IN THIS, WE'RE -- YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING OUR JOB DONE, SO. >> Scott: SO THAT -- THANKS. THE CONTRACT -- I'M JUST -- I GOT TERRIBLE -- I WAS REALLY GOING TO BE PREPARED, AND THEN MY SINUSES KICKED IN, SO I'M ALREADY STARTING OFF HALF THE GUY, NOW I'M HALF THE HALF. THE CONTRACT WITH SEVEN SEAS WAS SIGNED GENERALLY AUGUST OF LAST YEAR? >> AUGUST OF 2024. >> Scott: LET ME JUST WRITE A NOTE. AND WHAT HAPPENS IF WE SIGN AN AGREEMENT -- A TAKE OR PAY AGREEMENT AND THE LINE DOES GO DOWN? I MEAN, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE IF WE BUY 10 MGD AND THE LINE GOES DOWN FOR 10 DAYS? WE STILL -- BECAUSE THE CONTRACT WOULD BE A TAKE OR PAY, SO WHO'S GOING TO COVER THAT? I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT THAT'S A BIG DEAL. >> THAT'S PART OF SOME OF OUR DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD INTERNALLY AND ALSO SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD BEFORE DREW MOLLY LEFT AND NOW NICK'S ON BOARD. WE'RE CONTINUED TO HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE WHATEVER THE ROLES ARE. IF WE'RE STILL IN RECEIVERSHIP OR A WHOLESALE CUSTOMER, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WATERLINE WORKS FOR THE 40,000 PLUS RESIDENTS THAT WE SERVE IN BETWEEN TWO COUNTIES, SO WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE IT'S WORKING, EVEN IF WE DON'T EVER PROVIDE A DROP OF WATER TO YOU, WE'RE STILL GOING TO GET A WHOLE LOT OF WATER COMING FROM -- >> Scott: I GET >> THAT'S OUR CONCERN AS WELL. WE'VE GOT TO WORK THROUGH THAT. WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR WATER LINE CERTIFIED, WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL THE ASSESSMENTS TA WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO VERIFY OUR VALVES AND OUR AR V AS ARE ALL IN WORKING CONDITION AND THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE CONTINUOUS SERVICE NO MATTER WHO IS RECEIVING OR WHO IS PROVIDING THE WATER. >> AND MR. SCOTT, THERE'S A PROVISION IN THE SEIZE CONTRACT THAT REQUIRES FOR MAINTENANCE, SO MANY DAYS OF MAINTENANCE. SO WE'RE AWARE OF THE QUESTION YOU'VE ASKED AND WE'VE DISCUSSED IT WITH LEGAL AND WE HAVEN'T COME UP WITH A TOTAL SOLUTION YET, BUT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT. SO WE'RE VERY AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THAT IS A MATTER OF CONCERN NOT ONLY FOR YOU, BUT FOR US. >> I THINK ON MOST OF OUR SYSTEMS WE HAVE ALL THE CONTROL RIGHT? IF THE MARY RHODES GOES DOWN, THAT'S ON US. ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS WOULD BE TO HAVE A TAKE OR PAY CONTRACT AT OUR FENCE LINE, RIGHT? >> RIGHT. >> SCOTT SCOTT IF ONLY 10 GALLONS GETS TO OUR FENCE LINE WE'RE ONLY PAYING FOR 10 GALLONS. SO IF THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE PIPELINE WE'RE ONLY PAYING FOR THE WATER THAT GETS TO OUR FENCE LINE. THAT MAY BE -- THAT MIGHT PUT THE WATER AUTHORITY AT FINANCIAL RISK, BUT -- >> I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE THIS YET, BUT WE HAVE TO SHOW COUNCIL THIS STORY ON THE 42-INCH LINE. I HAVE A MAP HERE, IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING, BUT SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY OWNS A PORTION OF IT, BUT THE MAJORITY THE CITY OWNS GOING UP TO OWEN STEVENS. AND THE WORK HAS TO BE DONE FOR PUMPING AND NICK TALKED TO ME ABOUT IT RECENTLY. IT'S NOT JUST THAT THIS LINE READY TO GO AND YOU CAN REVERSE FLOW. NICK, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? >> YES, SIR. SO THE LINE IS INTERESTING. THE CITY ACTUALLY OWNS THAT 42-INCH LINE FROM OWENS STEVENS TO COUNTY ROAD 52. AND WE WORK COOPERATIVELY WITH JOHN AND HIS TEAM OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS OR SO, WE ACTUALLY MOVED THEIR METER, SO THEIR TANK POINT WAS MOVED FROM OWEN STEVENS TO THAT AREA ON COUNTY ROAD 52. THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE RAN ANOTHER LINE TO CAL ALLEN AND THAT'S OUR PRIMARY FEED FOR THE CAL ALLEN FEED AM COMING OFF OF COUNTY ROAD 52. ALL THAT BEING SAID, IT DOES GET -- IT COMPLICATED WITH PROJECT PHASING. IF YOU RECALL WE ARE IN DESIGN FOR A THIRD PRESSURE PLANE WHICH SEPARATES THE CAL ALLEN AREA FROM THE REST OF THE SYSTEM. SO THAT PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO GET PHASED IN AMONGST ALL OF THIS. ADDITIONALLY JUST LIKE -- JUST LIKE AT INNER HARBOR WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT ANY WATER FROM AN OUTSIDE SOURCE IS BLENDED WITH OUR WATER FROM OWEN STEVENS SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL GROUND STORAGE TANKS AND PUMPS AND ALL OF THAT HAS TO BE ANALYZED AND STUDIED. SO THERE WOULD BE A CORRESPONDING CIP PROJECT FOR THE CITY AS WELL TO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THIS. >> SCOTT: I JUST THOUGHT THE EASY WAY WAS TO SAY HEY, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO HIT WATER THAT HITS WHEREVER, COUNTY ROAD 52. IF ONLY FIVE MG GETS TO US, WE'RE PAYING FOR FIVE. IF NOT THEN WE HAVE TO RELY ON A THIRD-PARTY THAT WE HAVE GREAT FAITH IN, BUT WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN OUR PARTNER THAT WE HAVE GREAT FAITH IN THESE NEEDS TO SET ASIDE A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY TO PROVE TO US THAT WHATEVER REPAIRS MIGHT BE NEEDED ARE PERFORMED QUICKLY AND EFFECTIVELY SO THAT -- WE'RE PAYING THE TAKE OR PAY CONTRACT. I JUST WANT TO GET MY THOUGHTS -- >> JUST SOME CONTEXT ON THAT. SO THE 42-INCH LINE WAS PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYERS IN THE STWA BOUNDARIES THAT WAS CREATED BACK IN 1979 BY STATE STATUTE. SO THAT LINE WAS FUNDED BY THEM. AND IT WAS -- THE INITIAL CONNECTION WASN'T OWEN STEVENS. I THINK THAT EARLIER THIS YEAR WE MADE THAT FINAL MOVE. THAT WAS A DECISION THAT WAS MADE BETWEEN I BELIEVE CITY COUNCIL AND MANAGEMENT, AND STWA BOARD WITH MY PREDECESSOR AND PRIOR BOARDS THAT DECISION WAS MADE. OBVIOUSLY IT TAKES A FEW YEARS FOR IT TO HAPPEN, RIGHT? THAT HAPPENED ON MY WATCH SO IT WAS MOVED AT THE CITY'S REQUEST BECAUSE WE WERE CONSTANTLY ACCESSING OWEN STEVENS PLANT WITH OUR VEHICLES. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS, BUT THIS LINE HAS BEEN -- WAS FUNDED AND WAS CREATED BY STWA, SO IT WAS BY TAXPAYERS THERE, I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE ACTUAL CONNECTION TO OWEN STEVENS. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY TAXPAYER FUNDING OR ANY FUNDING THAT CAME FROM THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI TO FUND THAT ORIGINAL 42. THE LINE THAT WAS GIVEN FROM COUNTY ROAD 52 NORTH TO OWEN STEVENS WAS A CONVEYANCE THAT WAS GIVEN OUT OF REQUEST BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN THE PLANE, THE INCREASED DEMAND, THAT WENT WITH -- YOU KNOW, EARLIER THIS YEAR OR LAST YEAR THAT WE WERE ASKED TO REDUCE OUR USAGE OVERNIGHTS BECAUSE THE CAL ALLEN WAS SUFFERING SOME GREAT PRESSURE ISSUES IN THEIR PART OF THE WATER SYSTEM. SO IT'S ALL INTERCONNECTED. WE KNOW THE ENGINEERS ARE SMARTER THAN ALL OF US ON WATER. SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MOVING OF THESE BIG PUZZLES SO I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT I DID WANT TO CLARIFY AS FAR AS THE WATER LINE WAS FUNDED BY STWA TAXPAYERS. SO THOSE INCLUDE ALL SEVEN COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE AND ALL THE RURAL CUSTOMERS BETWEEN CORPUS CHRISTI AND KINGSVILLE AND ALL POINTS WEST TO JIM WELLS COUNTY LINE. >> SCOTT: GOT IT. APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. MAYOR, MY LAST THOUGHT, MY THOUGHT WAS THIS IS AN INTERESTING TO BUY SOMEBODY'S WATER IN A TAKE OR PAY, BUT NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE IT YOURSELF. SO I THINK THAT'S A BIG ISSUE FOR ME. THAT'S JUST A BIG ISSUE. WE OUGHT TO HAVE OUR OWN PIPELINE OR BUY WITH WHATEVER YOU DECIDE THE TRIGGER POINT IS. THE SECOND PART IS I DO THINK AT SOME POINT, I THINK SOMEBODY SENT US AN EMAIL AND I'LL STOP TALKING, THAT WE NEED TO RETHINK HOW MUCH WATER WE THINK WE REALLY NEED BECAUSE OF SOME THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. I THINK AT SOME POINT WE NEED SOME SORT OF WORKSHOP AND SEE IF WE GET A CHANCE TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON THAT WOULD IMPACT HOW MUCH WATER WE REALLY NEED AND HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO COST AND WHAT ARE THE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL IMPACTS. ANYHOW, THANKS FOR YOU GUYS, APPRECIATE YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON, BUT I GUESS -- I THINK DRILL A WELL AND WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OF THAT? >> IT WAS DRILLED IN DRISKILL JUST NORTH OF DRISKILL, NORTH OF FM 665. THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE OR WILL BE GIVEN IS THE REPORT THAT WE EMAILED TO -- [OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS]. >> Mayor Guajardo: I'M SORRY. >> WE GOT THE ANALYTICAL REPORT ON THAT WE WILL. >> Mayor WE WILL. >> Mayor Guajardo: CAN YOU SPEAK ON IT TODAY? >> I SENT IT YESTERDAY. >> Mayor Guajardo: CAN YOU SPEAK IT ON, MR. ZAHN. YOU ARE HERE TO DO THE REPORT. >> IT'S A REPORT TECHNICAL REPOT THAT I DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE IN. >> DID YOU GET IT YESTERDAY, NICK? >> I CAN ADD A LITTLE CLARITY TO THAT. WE DID GET IT YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. I WAS ABLE TO REVIEW IT LAST NIGHT. AS JOHN AND CHILLY CHARLIE SAID, IT'S A WATER QUALITY REPORT SO IT PROVIDES INFORMATION ON A NUMBER OF WATER QUALITY PARAMETERS, WHERE THEY COME IN AT AND DO THIS THEY EXCEED THE MAXIMUM CONTAMINANT LEVEL OR NOT. WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS ANY TYPE OF WELL PRODUCTION INFORMATION OR OVERALL SITE HYDROLOGY INFORMATION. PREVIOUSLY WE WERE PROVIDED HYDRO GEOLOGICAL REPORT THAT WAS DONE. THAT WAS MORE OF A DESKTOP STUDY. SO WE'LL BE INTERESTED IN SEEING THE REAL WATER -- WATER PRODUCTION DATA? >> Mayor Guajardo: YOU CAN STUDY IT AND GET WITH US ON THAT. AND THAT KIND OF LEADS ME INTO THE SECOND QUESTION. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS WOULD BE FOR PETER OR MR. MIREZ OR BOTH. I ASSUME Y'ALL WERE ABIDING BY THE MOU? >> I HAVE A COPY OF IT HERE. I DID WANT TO, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST BE CLEAR ON WHAT WE THINK WE'LL DO ON OCTOBER 14T KNOW -- ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE PRICE FOR THE WATER, THE QUALITY OF THE WATER, THE LOCATION OF THE DELIVERY? YOU KNOW, HOW STA WILL BUILD THE CITY. WHAT ARE WE DOING ON THE 14TH? I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR SO WE KNOW -- >> I MEAN, THAT WAS THE DATA I WAS GIVEN SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S -- >> GIVEN FOR WHAT? WHAT WAS IT. >> YOU SAID CITY COUNCIL SET -- >> WHO SET THAT DATE. >> WE DIDN'T SET THE DATE. WHO GAVE YOU THE DATE. >> THAT WAS A DATE FLOATING AROUND. I DON'T KNOW WHO OR WHERE IT CAME FROM. COMING WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH. SO MAYBE COUNCIL DRIVEN. I'M NOT SURE. >> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE COUNCIL. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE READY FOR A CONTRACT FOR 10 MILLION GALLONS ON THE 14TH, ARE WE? I DON'T THINK SO. WE ADOPT EVEN HAVE THE PIPE ANALYSIS DONE FOR EIGHT MONTHS. >> I THINK THE LAST DATE I HEARD WAS THIS ONE TODAY, AND WE WERE GOING TO GIVE YOU A BRIEFING -- >> Mayor Guajardo: MR. ZAHN, CAN YOU GET TO THE MICROPHONE. >> I'M SORRY, GEORGETOWN, THE LAST DATE I HEARD WAS TODAY THAT WE WERE TO COME BEFORE YOU AND GIVE YOU A BRIEFING AND WE'RE STILL CONTINUING TO GET INFORMATION, WE'RE STILL MEETING WITH YOUR STAFF TO DISCUSS VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF WHAT THIS AGREEMENT WILL BE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE OCTOBER 14TH DATE CAME FROM EITHER. >> I DON'T EITHER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL KNOWS. WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT AND 10 MILLION GALLONS IS GOOD WATER, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL'S CLEAR ON WHAT WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING ON THE 14TH. I WOULD SUBMIT WE'RE NOT BRINGING A CONTRACT. >> Mayor Guajardo: I THINK Y'ALL CAN TALK ABOUT IT. IF IT NEEDS TO BE ANOTHER BRIEFING AFTER THE 14TH, LET'S DO THAT, JUST KEEP MOVING WITH THE PROGRESS. [OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS]. >> AND MAYOR, THAT'S REALLY WHY MR. MORRIS EARLIER THIS MONTH WENT TO OUR BOARD AND GOT THEM TO FORMALLY APPROVE THESE NEGOTIATIONS. BEFORE IT HAD BEEN STAFF TO STAFF BASICALLY AND WE GOT OUR BOARD TO GIVE US DIRECTION TO COME AND MEET WITH YOUR STAFF AND TO MEET WITH YOU AND TRY TO FINALIZE AN AGREEMENT. >> Mayor Guajardo: RIGHT. AND I THINK HAVING THE BRIEFINGS ARE GOOD BECAUSE WE HAVE IT OUTLINED IN THE MOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS EXPECTED AND WHAT WE ALL AGREED TO. SO LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD ON BRIEFINGS ACCORDING TO THAT MOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. >> Hernandez: THANK YOU, MAYOR. OKAY. SO AS I UNDERSTAND THAT THE 14TH WE'RE GOING TO GET THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT, NOT NECESSARILY THE AGREEMENT. >> THE TERMS. >> NOT ALL OF THEM. >> >> Hernandez: SO BEAR WITH ME HERE. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE BRACKISH WATER DESAL TREATED TO POTABLE WATER, RIGHT? >> TO TCEQ STANDARDS. >> Hernandez: TCEQ DRINKING STANDARDS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE DESALINATED WATER THAT'S TREATED WITH CHLORINE AMMONIA WHATEVER OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE, CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >> Hernandez: KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SEND TO YOU. >> YES, SIR. >> Hernandez: OKAY. SO IS THAT AN ISSUE? I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE BUILDING A WATER TOWER IN CAL ALLEN, NICK? >> THAT IS CORRECT, COUNCIL MEMBER. WE'RE NOT BUILDING IT YET, BUT WE JUST SECURED SOME PROPERTY FOR IT. >> Hernandez: WHAT'S THE TIMELINE FOR THAT TOWER IN CAL ALLEN? >> IT'S PART OF THE THIRD PRESSURE PLANE SO THE PROJECT IS UNDER DESIGN. I WOULD SAY WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE DESIGN COMPLETE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT CALENDAR YEAR. SO THEN WE WOULD BID THE PROJECT OUT. >> Hernandez: CAN IT BE UTILIZED AS A POINT FOR MIXING? >> WELL, THE TANK IS BEING DESIGNED FOR THE PRESSURE PLANE AND TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE PRESSURE IN THE CAL ALLEN AREA. >> I UNDERSTAND. >> SO IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL -- WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT DESIGN, WE'D HAVE TO DO ADDITIONAL MODELING. ALSO THAT TANK WOULD BE LOCATED ON FM 1889 SOUTH OF NORTHWEST BOULEVARD. IT'S NOT REALLY ON THE ROUTE FROM DRISKILL. >> OKAY. >> NOW IT'S BEING DESIGNED JUST FOR THAT CAL ALLEN AREA. >> Hernandez: YOU MENTIONED YOU NEEDED TO HAVE MIXING TANKS. SO I MEAN -- GROUND TANK OR WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO? >> YEAH, INNER HARBOR THE PLAN WAS TO TAKE INNER HARBOR PRODUCTION WATER TO NAVIGATION. WE WERE GOING TO ADD A THIRD TANK THERE WITH THE TWO EXISTING GROUND STORAGE TANKS, BLEND IT WITH OWEN STEVENS WATER AND THEN WE COULD ENSURE CONSISTENT WATER QUALITY INTO THE CITY. SO I WOULD IMAGINE IT WOULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT. >> Hernandez: WOULDN'T THE DESALINATED WATER BE MORE A HIGHER QUALITY THAN THE WATER THAT COMES OUT OF OWEN STEVENS? >> WELL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OVERALL SYSTEM WATER QUALITY QUALITY, YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT AREAS OF THE SYSTEM ARE RECEIVING WATER FROM OWEN STEVENS, WHAT FROM SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WATER MIXES. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE APPROPRIATE BLEND TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES, SIMILAR TO, YOU KNOW, FLINT, MICHIGAN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE'VE JUST GOT TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE. >> Hernandez: ARE YOU SUGGESTING WE'LL BE ADDING MERCURY TO OUR WATER? >> NO. THE EXAMPLE THERE IS JUST WHEN YOU BLEND DIFFERENT SOURCES OF WATER YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN THE OUTCOME AND HOW IT'S DISTRIBUTED. WE WERE DOING THE SAME THING WITH INNER HARBOR, RIGHT? IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT STUDY THAT'S GOT TO BE DONE TO ENSURE -- >> Hernandez: YOU'RE SAYING WE NEED TO INCLUDE A MIXING TANK SOMEWHERE. >> YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT. >> Hernandez: WE WOULD NEED THAT REGARDLESS IF WE BUILT OUR OWN BRACKISH WATER DESAL COMING FROM THE 250 ACRES WE HAVE NORTH OF U RIGHT? >> THAT'S CORRECT, YEAH. YOU'D WANT TO BLEND IT -- >> Hernandez: CAN YOU COMBINE THOSE? >> THE MIXING TANKS? IF YOU SIZE IT CORRECTLY, YEAH. >> Hernandez: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE SOURCES OF WATER, DON'T BUILD TWO, BUILD ONE. SO YOU CAN HAVE THAT MIXING TANK FOR THAT. SO YOU HAVE KIND OF A SOLUTION FOR WHAT WE'RE PLANNING RIGHT? >> THERE'S A SOLUTION FOR ALL OF THIS AND THAT IS FOUND IN ENGINEERING AND DESIGN. AND MY COMMENTS EARLIER IS THAT THERE IS ENGINEERING DESIGN. [INDISCERNIBLE] HAS THEIR PROJECT THEY'RE DESIGNING AND WE WILL HAVE OUR PORTION TO ACCEPT THE WATER AND PROPERLY HANDLE IT. THE OTHER COMPONENT IS PRESSURE. SO IN NEGOTIATIONS SOME OF THE THINGS WE WOULD TALK ABOUT IS AT WHAT PRESSURE THE WATER IS DELIVERED. IN OTHER WORDS, WILL CCW NEED TO BOOST THAT TO MAINTAIN MINIMUM PRESSURE REQUIREMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY? ALL OF THOSE GO INTO ENGINEERING AND WILL HAVE TO BE -- >> Hernandez: OKAY. SO IS OUR CONTRACT WITH SOUTH TEXAS WATER AUTHORITY A TAKE OR PAY CONTRACT? >> WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT. I HAVEN'T SEEN A DRAFT OF IT. I HAVE NO IDEA -- >> Hernandez: NICK, YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO WHAT I'M ASKING. >> THE CURRENT ONE WE HAVE. >> NO, IT'S NOT. >> Hernandez: SO I GUESS IT COULD BE JUST A REVERSE OF WHAT THAT IS AND TO COUNCILMAN SCOTT WHO WALKED OFF SOMEWHERE, PROBABLY EATING, WE COULD JUST HAVE SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES TO WHERE WHATEVER WATER RECEIVED -- >> I THINK THAT'S HOW IT WOULD BE, COUNCILMAN. >> HE IS EATING. >> Hernandez: SO JUST WHATEVER WATER RECEIVED IT DOESN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY BE TAKE OR PAY. >> WE AGREE WITH THAT. THERE WOULD BE A MEET-UP OF SORTS IF WATER DOESN'T GET DELIVERED -- [OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS]. >> IF THEY SELL IT TO US THAT WAY. I BELIEVE THE CONTRACT WITH ALICE IS THEY DON'T DELIVER WATER, THEY DON'T GET PAID. SO I THINK THAT IS SIMILAR TO -- I'M ASSUMING IT'S SIMILAR ON YOUR SIDE. I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU THAT QUESTION. WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. AND WHO IS DOING OUR ASSESSMENT ON YOUR 42-INCH LINE? >> FREESE AND NICHOLS. [LAUGHTER]. >> I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT. >> THAT'S INTERNATIONAL CONSULTANT ENGINEERS. >> OKAY. ICE IS DOING IT. ALL RIGHT. SO I UNDERSTAND THERE IS SOME -- AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THEIR OWN PROCESSES RIGHT? SEAS ISSEIZE IS TAKING THE RISKN TERMS OF HOW THEY CONTRACT WITH YOU GUYS. ULTIMATELY THERE WOULD BE NO UP FRONT MONEY PAID UNTIL WE GET WATER, RIGHT? >> THAT'S HOW IT IS FOR US AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO STRESS IS ALL THIS WORK THAT'S BEING DONE THERE'S NOT BEEN A SINGLE BILL THAT'S BEEN GIVEN TO STWA TO HAVE TO PAY FOR ANY OF THEIR ENGINEERING OR ANY OF THEIR DWELLING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT WAS SO APPEALING TO A SYSTEM OF OUR SIZE BECAUSE OF THAT UP FRONT COST AND ALL OF THE BIDDING, THE PROCUREMENT THAT WOULD BE NEEDED. SO THAT'S WHY P3 WORKED FOR US IN THAT SETTING. >> Hernandez: TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT. SO COUNTY ROAD 52, WE'RE TALKING THE ONE UP THERE IN NORTH CAL ALLEN. IS THAT -- >> SOUTH. >> Hernandez: THAT COUNTY ROAD? >> YEAH. IT'S SOUTH OF NORTHWEST BOULEVARD. YEAH, IT'S BY THE HOBBY LOBBY. >> Hernandez: BY THE HOBBY LOBBY. SO THAT'S NOT VERY MUCH LINE THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR. >> NO. YEAH, SO THE CITY IS COUNTY ROAD 52 BACK TO OWEN STEVENS. THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY. >> Hernandez: SO WHATEVER LINE ADJUSTMENTS, CHANGING THE PUMPS TO PUMP THE OTHER DIRECTION, THAT'S ON YOU GUYS RIGHT? >> WE HAVEN'T CONFIRMED THAT YET. >> THAT WILL BE PART OF WHAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE, THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS OR IF WE DO ANOTHER LINE, THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION AS WELL. >> Hernandez: THE PRACTICALITYWISE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PUMP IN BOTH DIRECTIONS FROM THE SINGLE POINT. YOU WOULD HAVE TO SEPARATE THAT LINE SOMEHOW. >> WE COULD PUT SOME GRADIENT IN THERE IF YOU ASKED. BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT'S FEASIBLE, WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FINANCIALLY FOR EVERYONE. WHAT'S TECHNICALLY THE EASIEST ROUTE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT MANY -- NOT MUCH ROOM FOR ERROR TO REWORK A SYSTEM THAT'S BEEN WORKING FINE FOR 40 YEARS. BUT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU REQUIRE OF US, THEN WE'LL GET WITH OUR TEAM AND MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. AND IF WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT ANOTHER WAY TO DO THAT. WE'RE HERE AT YOUR DISPOSAL. ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE ASKED OUR BOARD TO TAKE A FORMAL ACTION. NOT TO DIRECTLY ENTER INTO NEGOTIATION, BUT JUST TO SHOW THAT BOARD IS WILLING TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, RADIO IT? TO HEAR EACH OTHER OUT AT THIS POINT. AND IF A MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL SUPPORTS THAT, SUPER MAJORITY OF OUR BOARD SUPPORTS THAT, SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD IF THAT'S WHAT BOTH GROUPS ARE DOING. IT TAKES BOTH PARTIES TO AGREE TO THIS, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY IS JUST TO KIND OF CONVEY THAT MESSAGE TO YOU AND TO THE COMMUNITY. >> Hernandez: OKAY. I DON'T HAVE -- JUST TO FINISH UP HERE, I THINK ALL THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE WORKED THROUGH. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL. I SEE SOME SYNERGIES. IF WE'RE LOOKING TO DO OUR OWN DESALINATION PLANT A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF CAL ALLEN THAT YOU COULD HAVE -- YOU WILL NEED A MIXING TANK THERE AS WELL FOR WATER COMING FROM THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WOULD BE LOCATED. YOU CAN KIND OF MAYBE COMBINE THOSE TO WHERE THEY'RE -- WHERE YOU'RE MIXING ALL THREE OF THOSE WATERS COMING IN SO YOU CAN PLAN FOR THAT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO CREATE TWO SEPARATE THINGS LIKE WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US FROM THE SAN PATRICIO AND OUR PROJECT. SO I THINK JUST TAKE A STEP BACK, LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE, SEE HOW WE CAN WORK THIS TOGETHER IN A SYNERGISTIC KIND OF WAY, TO QUOTE YOU FROM SYNERGY CINEMAS RIGHT? BUT I THINK SO FAR I VIN SEEN ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL. OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THE WATER, DRILL THE WELLS. THIS IS JUST ONE SOURCE OF MANY FOR US THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. [BUZZER]. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAVE OUR FRAMEWORK LINED UP OUR LINED OUT, WHICH IS THE MOU. AND THAT'S TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WHERE ARE WE, WELL, THAT WAS THE AGREEMENT AND I THINK Y'ALL ARE WORKING TOWARDS THAT AND WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO AT THIS TIME THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ITEMS 28 AND 29 PER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 AND 551.072. WE WILL RETURN. [EXECUTIVE SESSION] [EXECUTIVE SESSION] [EXECUTIVE SESSION] [EXECUTIVE SESSION] >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND RECONVENE OUR MEETING. COUNCILMAN BARRERA. >> Barrera: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT TO REPRESENT THE CITY IN THE CASE OF AJIT DAVID VERSUS CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND MAYOR PAULETTE GUAJARDO IN AN HOURLY AMOUNT TOTALING $325,000 AND AN AMENDMENT TO REPRESENT THE MAYOR IN SEED CASE WITH MARTINEZ AND WOOD, LLN IN AN HOURLY AMOUNT TOTALING UP TO AN ADDITIONAL $119,000. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. OH, I'M SORRY. IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? >> LET ME UNDERSTAND. THIS IS FOR THE CASE THAT'S PENDING RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF -- >> City Secretary: CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY, PLEASE. >> I'M SORRY. SUSIE LUNA SALDANA, CORPUS CHRISTI TEXAS. I JUST -- I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF MONEY BEING SPENT. I HEARD $50,000 AT ONE TIME AND THEN NOW THERE'S OTHER FIGURES HERE. IT KIND OF BOTHERS ME. AS A TAXPAYER THAT UNFORTUNATELY I'M STILL PAYING TAXES AT MY AGE. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THIS MONEY IS COMING OUT OF OUR POCKETS SO JUST TAKE A LOOK AT IT CLOSELY. THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MS. SALDANA. ANYONE ELSE? WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. >> City Secretary: MR. CANTU? >> Cantu: NO. >> Mayor Guajardo: THE MOTION CARRIES. AND I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION. COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. >> Hernandez: YES. MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TERM SHEET FOR FEE SIMPLE GROUNDWATER RIGHTS AND THE EXECUTION OF AGREEMENTS AND AMENDMENTS WITH ATTORNEYS ENGINEERS SURVEYORS AND HYDROLOGISTS TO ASSIST IN THE ACQUISITION OF DRILLING, PRODUCTION, AND TRANSPORTATION PERMITS FOR THE FULL PERMITTED VOLUME FEE-SIMPLE GROUNDWATER RIGHTS FROM EVANGELINE AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE WELLFIELD AND CONVEYANCE SYSTEMS IN A CUMULATIVE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $928,000 . >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN SCOTT. >> Scott: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. THIS IS A NON-BINDING, RIGHT? FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE GOING TO DISTRIBUTE THIS DOCUMENT OR SOME PORTION OF THIS DOCUMENT. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. THIS DOCUMENT WILL BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE RIGHT AFTER WE SPEAK ON IT RIGHT NOW. >> Scott: AWESOME. WOULD THERE BE, IN OUR UPDATE THIS WEEK, COULD YOU GO AND PUT THE DEAL POINTS TOGETHER IN WHICH YOU E-MAIL US AND THE TIMELINES YOU DISCUSSED -- THAT YOU HAVE DISCUSSED. I HAD TWO POINTS. ONE, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT'S NON-BINDING. AND THEN ON SECTION 4, REGARDING THE TRANSFER PERMIT. IT SAYS TO THE EXTENT REQUIRED. I WANTED TO POINT OUT IT'S MY SENSE THAT THE CITY WILL REQUIRE THAT TRANSFER PERMIT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE SECOND GUESSED IF I'M QUESTIONED ON THAT LATER. AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANTED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT I THINK EVERYBODY IS COMMITTED TO WORKING AS FAST AS WE CAN, BUT THE TIMELINE PRESENTED IS VERY AGGRESSIVE AND WE SHOULD TRY TO TEMPER THOSE TIMELINES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. I'M COMPLETELY COMMITTED AND BELIEVE YOU ALL WILL DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN. BUT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE PUBLIC FALSE HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING'S GOING TO TAKE A MONTH WHEN IT COULD TAKE SIX. THROUGH NO FAULT OF OUR OWN. THROUGH OUTSIDE PARTIES CONTESTING SOME OF THE PROJECTS. THAT'S IT, MAYOR. JUST WANT TO POINT OUT IT'S NON-BINDING. IT'S MY SENSE THAT WE ARE GOING TO REQUIRE THE TRANSFER PERMIT AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE TIMELINES ARE VERY AGGRESSIVE. SOME OF WHICH REQUIRE A LOT OF RISK BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THINGS BEFORE ALL OF THE PARTS OF THE CONTRACT, IF WE SIGN THIS. ALL OF THE PARTS OF THE CONTRACT ARE FULFILLED AND SO THERE WOULD BE SOME RISK INVOLVED BUT WE THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT'S THE WAY WE NEED TO PURSUE THIS BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, LET'S DO THIS AS FAST AS WE CAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BARRERA. >> Barrera: I WANT TO REITERATE THE PURPOSE OF WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON IS TO ENGAGE AND PAY FOR LEGAL COUNSEL TO HELP US NEGOTIATE THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH THE DEVELOPER TO PAY FOR ENGINEERING FIRM -- A VERY REPUTABLE ENGINEERING FIRM. I SEE THEM BACK THERE IN THE BACK. SO AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON OUR BEHALF TO BRING US TO THIS PROCESS, TO VALIDATE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT THE DEVELOPER IS GIVING US AND FOR A SURVEY -- AN APPRAISAL OF THE LAND TO MOVE FORWARD SO THAT WAY IT ASSISTS US IN OUR PROCESS IN NEGOTIATING WITH THE DEVELOPER. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO VOTE YES. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD -- IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. THERE BEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE IT. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. >> City Secretary: MR. CANTU. ARE YOU ON MUTE? >> Cantu: YES. AYE. >> City Secretary: YOU VOTE "AYE"? >> Barrera: YES, HE'S ON MUTE. >> Mayor Guajardo: THE MOTION CARRIES. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO SECTION L, THE CITY MANAGER'S -- >> City Secretary: I'M SORRY. MS. VAUGHN, WERE YOU THERE? I UNDERSTAND SHE'S ONLINE. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM. I JUST REMEMBERED. OKAY. I DON'T HEAR HER. >> Mayor Guajardo: MR. ZANONI, CITY MANAGER'S COMMENTS, UPDATE ON CITY OPERATIONS. WE HAVE ITEM 26 AND 27. ITEM 26 IS A 2025 THIRD QUARTER FINANCIAL REPORT FOLLOWED BY AN UPDATE ON OUR ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLY PROJECTS. >> Zanoni: GREAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO, THE CITY COUNCIL DOES HAVE THE PRESENTATION. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH -- THIS IS OUR THIRD QUARTER FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. AND THE REPORT IS A SUMMARY OF THE DOCUMENT OF OUR ACTUAL FINANCIAL REPORT. AND THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL AS WELL A WEEK AGO. AS WE HAVE CUSTOMARILY DONE FOR MANY YEARS, THAT REPORT IS ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL. AND SO THE FULL PUBLIC CAN HAVE ACCESS TO OUR THIRD QUARTER FINANCIAL REPORT IF THEY WISH TO SEE IT. SO THIS THIRD QUARTER REPORT IS FROM LAST OCTOBER, LAST OCTOBER 1 THROUGH JUNE 30 OF THIS YEAR. THAT'S THREE FULL QUARTERS OF THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR '25. AND OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES DO REQUIRE THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE CITY COUNCIL QUARTERLY UPDATES ON OUR FINANCIAL PROGRESS. ALL INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU TODAY HAS ALREADY BEEN ASSUMED IN OUR FY26 BUDGET. SO ON THE REVENUES YOU'LL SEE REVENUES ABOVE BUDGET. AND IN OUR EXPENDITURES YOU'LL SEE EXPENDITURES BELOW BUDGET. THE DIFFERENCE, ALL THOSE DOLLARS HAVE BEEN ASSUMED ALREADY IN OUR REESTIMATE OR IN THE '26 BUDGET DEVELOPMENT. JUST TO POINT THAT OUT. THERE'S NO NEW REVENUES, NO NEW SAVINGS THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED TODAY BECAUSE AS WE WERE DEVELOPING THE BUDGET FOR '26, WE ESTIMATE WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD GET FOR THE THIRD QUARTER AND THE FOURTH QUARTER AND THAT HAS BEEN ASSUMED IN THE BUDGET ALREADY. SO WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH OUR GENERAL FUND, AS WE USUALLY DO. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE MAJOR REVENUE CATEGORIES IN THE GENERAL FUND WE HAVE THE ADOPTED BUDGET. WE HAVE A THIRD QUARTER BUDGET, NINE MONTHS OF REVENUE WAS ESTIMATED TO BE. AND THEN WE HAVE THE THIRD QUARTER ACTUALS. AND THEN A VARIANCE COLUMN AS YOU GO LEFT TO RIGHT. IF WE LOOK AT THE FAR BOTTOM RIGHT AND THE VARIANCE COLUMN, $5.9 MILLION MORE IN GENERAL FUND REVENUES THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD RECEIVE ABOUT A YEAR AGO TODAY. THAT $5.9 MILLION HAS ALREADY BEEN ASSUMED IN OUR '26 BUDGET DEVELOPMENT. BUT IT'S A GOOD SIGN. THE CITY IS IN GOOD FINANCIAL HEALTH. WE'RE STAYING WITHIN OUR EXPENDITURES, OUR REVENUES ARE COMING IN EITHER RIGHT AT BUDGET OR SLIGHTLY AHEAD OVERALL. THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY HERE, A PIE CHART OF THE REVENUES FOR THE THIRD QUARTER. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BLUE, LIKE THE 1:00 TO THE 5:00 TIME-FRAME, IF YOU LOOK AT PROPERTY TAX AND THEN THE LIGHTER BLUE, THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT IN LIEU, WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS PROPERTY TAX, THAT'S 45% OF OUR BUDGETED REVENUE IN THE GENERAL FUND. AND THEN THE NEXT BIGGEST SOURCE, ABOUT 20% IS OUR SALES TAX. SO ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, SAME THING. WE HAVE THE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR '25. BUDGET OF WHAT WE ASSUME TO BE SPENDING FOR NINE MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR. WHAT WE ACTUALLY SPENT FOR THE FIRST NINE MONTHS AND THEN THE VARIANCE. SO SOME SAVINGS THERE FOR THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS OF ABOUT $14.4 MILLION. THAT HAS BEEN ASSUMED ALREADY IN THE '26 BUDGET DEVELOPMENT. AND STILL TODAY WE'RE TRACKING WITHIN THAT. AND SO THERE'S REALLY NOTHING NEW. SAVINGS, YOU CAN SEE HERE IN SOLID WASTE AND PUBLIC SAFETY, GENERAL GOVERNMENT ARE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS. THIS JUST SHOWS YOU THOSE EXPENDITURES FOR THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS. AND YOU CAN SEE PUBLIC SAFETY IS A BIG PART OF OUR BUDGET. ABOUT 51% FOR POLICE AND FIRE. STREETS, THIS IS JUST ONE SEGMENT OF STREETS. THIS OTHER DEDICATED FUNDING THAT DOESN'T SHOW UP HERE. AND SOLID WASTE ARE THE BIGGER GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES. THEN IN OUR OTHER FUNDS. SO OUR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. WE KNOW THAT ONE'S BEEN SLIGHTLY BEHIND BUDGET CONSISTENTLY, REALLY, SINCE FY24, THE CLOSE OF FY24. FY25 WE KNEW WE WOULD BE ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS LESS THAN BUDGET AND THAT'S WHAT THE NINE MONTHS INTO THE FISCAL YEAR ARE TRACKING. OUR BUDGET FOR '26 ASSUMES PRETTY MUCH A FLAT HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTION. SO THIS IS CONSISTENT INFORMATION. AND THE VISIT CORPUS CHRISTI HAS MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SPENDING TO MAKE SURE THEY STAY WITHIN THE BUDGETED AMOUNTS OF REVENUES THAT COME IN. OUR NEXT TWO FUNDS ARE WATER AND THEN WASTEWATER. SO BOTH OF THESE NEXT TWO SLIDES SHOW BOTH THE REVENUES AND THE EXPENSES. SO FOR THE WATER FUND, IF WE LOOK TO THE FAR RIGHT IN THE UPPER BOX IS ABOUT A $5.4 MILLION POSITIVE IN VARIANCE ABOVE WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE COLLECTING. EXPENDITURES ARE TRENDING JUST A LITTLE BIT BELOW THE EXPENSE. AS THE YEAR PROGRESSES, SOME OF THE CONTRACTS AND LONG-LEAD PURCHASE ITEMS WILL BE COMING IN AND THE EXPENSES SHOULD BE CLOSER TO WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD SPEND FOR THE FULL 12 MONTHS. THE WASTEWATER IS A LITTLE BIT TIGHTER. SO OUR REVENUES THROUGH NINE MONTHS CAME IN PRETTY MUCH RIGHT WHERE WE WANTED THEM TO AT $72.9 MILLION. NO VARIANCE. AND THE EXPENSES HERE ARE TRACKING A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO BUDGET. AND WE THOUGHT WE WOULD SPEND 86.4 FOR NINE MONTHS. WE SPENT 81.1. ABOUT A 5.3 FAVORABLE VARIANCE. ANY VARIANCE THAT IS ASSUMED FOR THE REST OF THE QUARTER IN THE YEAR HAS ALREADY BEEN CALCULATED IN THAT '26 BUDGET. OKAY. SO IN ADDITION TO MONITORING OUR FISCAL HEALTH, WE ALSO MONITOR PROGRESS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE TELL THE COMMUNITY WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER. AND SO IN THE LAST YEAR BUDGET, NOT THE ONE THAT BEGINS OCTOBER 1, BUT WE DID HAVE A NUMBER OF BUDGET INITIATIVES. WE HAD A TOTAL OF 42. THEY INCLUDED THINGS LIKE PURCHASING VEHICLES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, DOING NORTH BEACH RESTROOM AND PARKING FACILITY MAINTENANCE. VECTOR EQUIPMENT AND CHEMICALS FOR BETTER MOSQUITO CONTROL. AND RESTRUCTURING OUR BEACH RESCUE DIVISION. THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE 42. THE KEY THING IS ON THE BOTTOM LEFT THERE. 14 OF THESE 42 INITIATIVES ARE COMPLETE. 25 ARE ON SCHEDULE TO BE COMPLETED BY EITHER THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR OR SHORTLY INTO THE NEW FISCAL YEAR. THERE'S A WORK PLAN THAT WE HAVE FOR EACH OF THESE INITIATIVES. THREE ARE BEHIND SCHEDULE. BUT WE HAVE LOOKED AT THEM THIS WEEK AND THEY HAVE A RECOVERY PLAN. SO THEY SHOULD BE CLOSED OUT SOON, THEY'RE JUST BEHIND THE ANTICIPATED SCHEDULE THAT WAS LAID OUT EARLIER LAST YEAR. AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE OUR CAPITAL BUDGET. SO EVERYTHING I JUST WENT OVER IS THE OPERATING SIDE BUT WE DO HAVE A BIG CAPITAL PROGRAM WHERE THE CITY IS INVESTING IN NEW STREETS AND FACILITIES TO INCLUDE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES LIBRARIES AND THAT. WE HAVE THREE OF THE LAST BOND PROGRAMS HERE. BOND 2024 HAD 38 PROJECTS. FIVE PROJECTS ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION TODAY. 18 PROJECTS ARE IN PREDESIGN. 15 ARE IN DESIGN RIGHT NOW. BOND 2022, THE SECOND TO THE MOST RECENT, HAD 32 PROJECTS. SIX ARE COMPLETED ALREADY. SEVEN ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THEN THE REMAINING ARE IN DESIGN. AND THEN BOND 2020, 42 PROJECTS. 37 PROJECTS COMPLETED. FOUR ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND ONE IS IN DESIGN AND IT WAS A DESIGN ONLY. SO WE'RE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS ON EACH OF THESE BOND PROGRAMS. AND MAKING SURE WE DELIVER TO THE VOTERS WHAT WE TOLD THEM WE WOULD DO WHEN THEY CONSIDERED THIS AT THE BALLOT. AND SO IN SUMMARY, FOR THE THIRD QUARTER REPORT, OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES ARE CONSISTENT WITH PROJECTIONS, AS WE MENTIONED, AND ANY VARIANCES THAT I SHOWED THIS AFTERNOON ARE ALREADY ASSUMED IN THE '26 BUDGET. OUR HOT REVENUES ARE CONSISTENT WITH PROJECTIONS. WE KNEW THEY WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT DOWN. WATER AND WASTEWATER FUNDS ARE CONSISTENT, BOTH IN TERMS OF REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES. AND THEN WE STILL SEE STRONG DELIVERY IN OUR CIP PROJECTS. SO THE NEXT STEPS FOR OUR FINANCIAL ANALYSIS INCLUDE THE PRELIMINARY CLOSEOUT OF FISCAL YEAR '25. THE FISCAL YEAR WILL CLOSE OUT AT THE END OF THIS MONTH AND WORK HAD ALREADY BEGUN ON DOING FINAL ADJUSTMENTS AND RECONCILIATION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. WE WILL BE, AS WE ALWAYS DO, HAVING AN EXTERNAL AUDITOR. WEAVER IS OUR AUDIT FIRM THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING. THEY DO AN INDEPENDENT, COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT. IT CHECKS THE WORK OF THE CITY TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE SAY IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING. AND SO THAT WILL BEGIN SOON. AND THEN WE'LL COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THE FOURTH QUARTER REPORT IN NOVEMBER. THAT WILL BE FULL 12 MONTHS OF FISCAL YEAR '25. AND SO THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, MAYOR. AS I MENTIONED -- AND COUNCIL, AS I MENTIONED, THE FINANCIAL REPORT, WHICH IS A PRETTY THICK DOCUMENT, IS ON OUR WEBSITE. IT'S ALSO BEEN PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL A WEEK AGO. AND THE POWERPOINT IS THERE AS WELL IF THE COMMUNITY JUST WANTS TO LOOK AT THAT. >> Mayor Guajardo: GREAT. THANK YOU, PETER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Zanoni: OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE CITY MANAGER REPORT IS NICK WINKLEMANN, OUR INTERIM CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER IS GOING TO PROVIDE A WEEKLY UPDATE ON OUR WATER SUPPLY PROJECTS. I'LL >> Winkelmann: THANK YOU, PETER. I'LL JUST WAIT FOR THE PRESENTATION TO LOAD. SO DURING THIS PRESENTATION, I'LL UPDATE ON OUR SUPPLEMENTAL WATER PROJECTS. ADDITIONALLY, I'LL PROVIDE -- WE DID HAVE AN UPDATE TO OUR WATER SUPPLY DASHBOARD LAST WEEK AS WELL, AND THAT WAS IN OUR WEEKLY MEMO. WE'LL START WITH THAT. SO DUE TO THE LACK OF INFLOWS INTO THE LAKES, THE MODEL FOR OUR WATER SUPPLY DASHBOARD HAS BEEN ADJUSTED FOR THE DATE WE WILL REACH LEVEL 1 WATER EMERGENCY. AGAIN, LEVEL 1 WATER EMERGENCY IS DEFINED FROM A TIME PERIOD THAT IS -- WE ARE 180 DAYS AWAY FROM NOT HAVING ENOUGH SUPPLY TO MEET OUR DEMAND. SO WHAT HAS OCCURRED IS THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT LACK OF INFLOWS INTO THE LAKES, AND THAT'S RESULTED IN THAT PROJECTION SHIFTING FROM DECEMBER OF 2026 TO NOVEMBER OF 2026. AND AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR WEEKLY -- WE HAVE A WEEKLY CONFERENCE CALL WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, AND THIS IS A SLIDE THAT WE BORROWED FROM THEM, AND IT -- IT BASICALLY EXPLAINS THE SAME SITUATION THAT WE'RE SEEING. THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN STREAM FLOWS INTO OUR WESTERN REST VER VOIRS WHICH IS OUR -- R AND LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI. I'VE GOT A HISTORICAL SLIDE, THIS IS SORT OF A HYDROLOGY RECAP. THIS SHOWS THE WATER GOING INTO THE CHOKE CANYON RESERVOIR, AND YOU CAN SEE WE HAD A 30-YEAR AVERAGE OF INFLOWS AT 159,500-ACRE FEET PER YEAR. THE LAST -- THE AVERAGE OVER THE LAST 14 YEARS IS 38,000-ACRE FEET PER YEAR. SO WE'RE CERTAINLY IN A DOWNWARD TREND AS SHOWN ON THIS -- ON THIS GRAPHIC. THE NEXT SLIDE IS FOR INFLOWS INTO LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI. YOU CAN SEE THE SAME DOWNWARD TREND. THE PRIOR 30-YEAR AVERAGE WAS 432,002 ACHE HUNDRED ACRE FEET AND THE LAST 14 YEARS WAS 209,000-ACRE FEET. THE COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS THE WATER SUPPLY DASHBOARD, WE TRIED TO BE CONSERVATIVE BUT NOT OVERLY CONSERVATIVE, SO WHAT WE DID IS WE UTILIZED THE DATA FROM 2024 TO COME UP WITH PROJECTIONS IN TERMS OF RAINFALL AND INFLOW. SO AS I STATED IN MY WEEKLY SUMMARY, IN 2024, THE AVERAGE INFLOW FOR LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI FROM JANUARY 1 TO SEPTEMBER 15TH WAS APPROXIMATELY 217-ACRE FEET PER DAY, SO THAT'S FOR THAT SAME TIME PERIOD, 217-ACRE FEET PER DAY. THE SAME TIME PERIOD IN 2025, THE AVERAGE WAS 123-ACRE FEET PER DAY. SO THAT PERIOD FROM JANUARY 1ST TO SEPTEMBER -- MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER 15TH, WE'RE ABOUT HALF OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING THE PREVIOUS YEAR, AND, AGAIN, WE THOUGHT LAST YEAR WAS VERY CONSERVATIVE. I WILL SAY IN -- YOU KNOW, I'M NOT -- I'M AN ENGINEER, I'M NOT A METEOROLOGIST, I'M NOT A WEATHER GUY, WE TALK TO THEM A LOT, WE TALK TO NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE. THIS PAST WEEK, WE ALSO TALKED TO THE STATE CLIMATOLOGIST, THAT'S ALWAYS AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION. WHAT HE SHARED WITH US IS THAT THE CONFIDENCE IS HIGH THAT WE'LL BE ENTERING LA NINA THIS WINTER, WHICH TYPICALLY FOR US, IT MEANS A DRYER AND WARMER WINTER; HOWEVER, THE CHANCES TO COME OUT OF THAT ARE IN THE SPRING WHERE WE WOULD RETURN TO A NEUTRAL WEATHER PATTERN, SO WHAT HE SHARED WITH US IS REALLY OUR NEXT CHANCES FOR SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL IS THAT MAY, JUNE TIME FRAME. SO WHEN WE GET INTO OUR WATER SUPPLY PROBAB PROJECTS, THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE IS THE NUECES RIVER GROUNDWATER WELLS PROJECT. THESE ARE WELLS WE'RE CURRENTLY DRILLING ON CITY-OWNED PROPERTY. WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE EASTERN WELL FIELDS, WE'VE DRILLED EIGHT WELLS. SEVEN ARE OPERATIONAL, THE LAST ONE WE'VE INSTALLED THE PERMANENT PUMPING EQUIPMENT OVER THE WEEKEND, AND WE'LL DO OFFICIAL STARTUP ON THAT LATER THIS WEEK. THE WESTERN WELL FIELD IS ONGOING. WE'VE DRILLED WELL 9, WE'RE TEST PUMPING AND CHECKING WATER QUALITY ON WELL 10. THIS WEEK WE'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF PUMPING OVER THE WEEKEND, AND WELL 11, WE'RE DRILLING THAT RIGHT NOW. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR HYDROGEOLOGISTS, THAT'S ENTERRA, AND WHAT THEY'VE STATED WITH THE CURRENT DATA IS THAT THE SUSTAINABLE PUMPING FROM THE EASTERN WELL FIELD IS APPROXIMATELY 11 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY. AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY 17 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY FROM THE WESTERN WELL FIELD. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS AS DATA BECOMES AVAILABLE, ESPECIALLY AS WE DRILL MORE WELLS IN THE WESTERN WELL FIELD, THAT'S SHARED WITH ENTERRA, AND THEY UTILIZE THAT DATA TO UPDATE THEIR MODEL. I EXPECT THOSE NUMBERS IN THE WESTERN WELL FIELD TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT AS WE GET FURTHER INTO IT, BUT WE NEED MORE DATA TO PROVE THAT OUT. THE OTHER POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE ABOUT THIS -- ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS WE DO HAVE APPROXIMATELY -- OR WE HAVE A $30 MILLION GRANT FUNDING FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT'S BEEN APPROVED THAT WILL GO TO PAY FOR THIS PROJECT. OUR NEXT PROJECT IS THE EVANGELINE GROUNDWATER PROJECT, AND WE JUST -- CITY COUNCIL JUST HAD A MOTION FOR US TO APPROVE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACTS. THAT'S FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES, LEGAL AND SURVEY SERVICES. THOSE SERVICES ARE IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO GET ALL THE DETAILS STRAIGHT ON THIS PROJECT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IN AS EXPEDITED AS A MANNER AS POSSIBLE. THE ONE THING I DO WANT TO POINT OUT IS WE'VE BEEN ACTIVELY MEETING WITH THIS GROUP. THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF MEETINGS. ONE OF TWO MEETINGS EVERY WEEK TO TRY AND CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THE TERM SHEET AND THESE DETAILS AS WELL. HDR IS -- WE HAVE THEM UNDER CONTRACT THROUGH OUR MARY RHODES PIPELINE CONDITION ASSESSMENT, AND THEY PROVIDED A TECHNICAL MEMO DISCUSSING THE INPUTS OF THE EVANGELINE INTO THE MARY RHODES PIPELINE. THAT INFORMATION WILL BE SHARED WITH OUR -- OUR CONSULTANTS WORKING ON THE EVANGELINE PROJECT IN A WORKSHOP SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THAT IN DETAIL. CC POLYMERS, SO WE'VE HAD QUITE A BIT GOING ON AT CC POLYMERS. IN FACT, WE HAD STAFF, ALONG WITH OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE GROUP, CDM SMITH, THEY WERE RECENTLY ONSITE, AND WE'VE REQUESTED CDM SMITH TO PREPARE A PROPOSAL FOR AN EQUIPMENT CONDITION ASSESSMENT AND FEASIBILITY FOR THE CC POLYMER SITE. THE GOAL IS TO BRING THIS PROPOSAL TO COUNCIL AT THE NEXT -- OR OCTOBER 7TH COUNCIL MEETING FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. WE FEEL THAT THAT ASSESSMENT IS IMPORTANT BEFORE WE EMBARK IN ANY -- OBVIOUSLY WITH ANY AGREEMENT WITH CC POLYMER, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO HELP US UNDERSTAND BOTH THE CONDITION AND THE CAPABILITY OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S EXISTING ON SITE. OUR REUSE ALTERNATIVES, AND, AGAIN, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES WORKING ON OUR REUSE ALTERNATIVES, SO WE HAVE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WITH GARVER ENGINEERING. THEY ARE EVALUATING SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS. ONE IS CONVEYANCE OF EFFLUENT TO THE NUECES RIVER OR POTENTIALLY TO OTHER USERS, AND THEY ARE LOOKING HEAVILY INTO ANY REQUIRED TCEQ PERMITTING FOR THAT. THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING AT OUR AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY AND THE PREVIOUS WORK WE'VE DONE, AND, OF COURSE, DIRECT POTABLE REUSE. WE'RE WORKING WITH GARVER SO THAT THEY CAN PUT TOGETHER THEIR INFORMATION TO DATE AND THE ANALYSIS THAT THEY'VE CONDUCTED, AND WE HOPE TO PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL IN THE UPCOMING WEEKS. ADDITIONALLY, AND THIS WAS A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, BUT WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM THE GULF COAST AUTHORITY, OR GCA, ALONG WITH ARDURRA, AND WE HAVE A MEETING WITH THE GULF COAST AUTHORITY AND ARDURRA THIS WEEK TO DISCUSS NEXT STEPS ON THEIR PROPOSED PROJECT AS WELL. THAT MEETING'S ON SEPTEMBER 25TH. ANOTHER LARGE PROJECT FOR THE REGION IS THE HARBOR ISLAND SEAWATER DESALINATION PLANT. THAT PROJECT IS BEING MANAGED BY THE NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY. AND, IN FACT, WE MET WITH THE NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY AND THEIR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR YESTERDAY TO DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT AND ALSO TO GO IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL WITH WHAT IS REQUIRED AS THE OPTION FEE FOR THAT PROJECT. AGAIN, THAT PROJECT, WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD, IS IT'S -- THE PHASE 1 IS 100 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY. THEY'RE ANTICIPATING CONSTRUCTION STARTING IN MARCH OF 2027, AND THEY PLAN TO BE PRODUCING WATER DECEMBER OF 2029. THERE STILL ARE A NUMBER OF PERMITS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THAT PROJECT, BUT WHAT WE WERE INFORMED IS THAT THEY HAVE DRAFT PERMITS FOR THE ARMY -- ALL THE ARMY CORPS PERMITS, THEY HAVE THE DRAFT PERMITS AND THEY'RE WAITING FOR THOSE TO BE FINALIZED. THEY'RE STILL WORKING WITH TCEQ ON BOTH THE INTAKE AND DISCHARGE PERMITS FOR THAT OPERATION. THE OPTION FEE, IT'S A ONE-TIME NONREFUNDABLE OPTION FEE, AND IT RESERVES THE WATER FOR THE PLANT. THE FEE DOES NOT GUARANTEE A DELIVERY DATE OF THE PLANT, OBVIOUSLY ANY PLANT OF THAT SIZE, THERE'S A NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT DETERMINE ITS COMPLETION DATE. ELECTRICAL POWER IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY ONES. IN OUR TENTATIVE PLAN IS TO BRING AN OPTION FEE FOR COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION EARLY OCTOBER, IN THAT FIRST COUNCIL MEETING IN OCTOBER. AND WHAT THE NRA HAS PROVIDED TO US IS AN OPTION -- BASICALLY THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. ONE FOR 30 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY, ONE FOR 40 AND ONE FOR 50. STAFF IS CURRENTLY REVIEWING THOSE OPTIONS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. AND THE LAST SUPPLEMENTAL PROJECT THAT I HAVE ON THE LIST IS EV RANCH. STAFF, WE ACTUALLY MET WITH REPRESENTATIVE -- IT WAS A SHORT MEETING, BUT WE MET WITH THEM YESTERDAY, AND THEY HAVE A RETOOLED NEW PROPOSAL THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH US FOR CONSIDERATION. THAT -- THE PLAN IS FOR THEM TO PRESENT THAT RETOOLED PROPOSAL TO US STYMIED OCTOBER. SOMETIME MID OCTOBER. ONCE WE KNOW THOSE DETAILS, WE CAN SHARE THEM TO YOU. YESTERDAY WAS A SHORT MEETING SO THEY COULD TELL US THEY'VE GOT SOME NEW INFORMATION THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE TO THE CITY. A LOT OF INFORMATION, A LOT OF PROJECTS, A LOT OF HARD WORK. STAFF IS NOT LETTING UP. WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON ALL THESE PROJECTS. AND I STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, NICK, WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO IT. I THINK WE ALL STAND TOGETHER IN MOVING FORWARD ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, ONE STEP AT A TIME. SO WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS? >> Campos: THANK YOU, MAYOR. WHAT IS THE TIMELINE ON THE WASTEWATER REUSE, JUST -- >> Winkelmann: SO WHAT WE'VE -- WHAT WE'VE ASKED GARVER TO DO IS TO SUMMARIZE THEIR FINDINGS SO THAT WE CAN BRING THE THREE OPTIONS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING INTO, THEY CAN BRING THEIR FINDINGS BACK TO COUNCIL DURING A BRIEFING, SO THAT YOU CAN HEAR THEM AND BETTER UNDERSTAND FEASIBILITY AND TIMELINE. AND WHEN I SAY FEASIBILITY, A LOT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT TCEQ PERMITS ARE REQUIRED. BUT THEN, REMEMBER, THERE'S THE OTHER -- THERE'S -- >> Campos: THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING. YEAH. >> THERE'S A GCA AND ARDURRA PROPOSAL -- >> Campos: RIGHT. >> -- WAY WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM THEM A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. >> Campos: UH-HUH. >> Winkelmann: AND IF YOU RECALL, THE GCA, WHAT THEY REQUESTED FOR THE NEXT STEP TO BE WAS TO CREATE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE CITY -- >> Campos: OKAY. >> Winkelmann: WE'VE ASKED FOR ARDURRA AND GCA TO COORDINATE, AND, AGAIN, THAT MEETING'S THIS WEEK. SO WE'LL HEAR BACK FROM THEM THIS WEEK. >> Campos: OKAY. SO WE'LL GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION. >> Winkelmann: CORRECT. >> Campos: IT DID SEEM -- IF I REMEMBER, WASN'T IT LIKE 24 MONTHS -- FROM GCA, BUT I COULD BE WRONG WING K. >> Winkelmann: THE ARDURRA PRESENTATION SAID APPROXIMATELY 24 MONTHS. COUNCILMA N HERNANDEZ? >> Hernandez: THE TEST WELL NUMBER 9 THAT'S IN THE WESTERN FIELD, WHAT WAS THE TDS ON THAT. >> Winkelmann: OH, SURE. AND I GUESS I WANT TO CLARIFY. THE FIRST EIGHT WELLS ARE IN THE EASTERN WELL FIELD. WE'RE KEEPING THE NUMBERS SEQUENTIAL, SO WELL 9 IS THE FIRST WELL IN THE WESTERN WELL FIELD, AND THAT TDS WAS ABOUT 1,660. SO IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THE EASTERN WELL FIELD. >> Hernandez: OKAY. JUST KIND OF... AND IS IT THE INTENT TO HAVE BED AND BANK PERMIT FOR THAT ONE AS WELL? >> Winkelmann: YEAH, WE WILL HAVE TO APPLY FOR A SECOND BED AND BANKS PERMIT FOR THAT WELL FIELD. WE ARE COMPILING MORE DATA AND -- AND ENSURING THAT WE HAVE AS ROBUST OF AN APPLICATION AS POSSIBLE. AND A LOT OF THAT WE'LL HAVE ONCE WE DRILL A COUPLE MORE WELLS, SO WE HAVE MORE DATA. >> Hernandez: AND YOUR BED AND BANKS PERMIT REQUIRES YOU TO MONITOR THE NUECES RIVER TO MAINTAIN BELOW 1,000TDS? >> Winkelmann: SO IT'S BASED UPON THE BASE LEVEL OF THE NUECES RIVER. SO THE -- AND PERCENTAGES OF THAT. SO ONE THING THAT NUECES RIVER IS INTERESTING. WE'VE SEEN TDS RANGES RANGE FROM 800 TO 1200 NATURALLY. THAT'S WITHOUT ANY WELLS PUMPING, AND IT CHANGES ON DIFFERENT SITUATIONS. SO WHAT THE PERMIT IS, IT'S BASED ON PERCENTAGES OF WHAT WE MEASURE THE BASE LEVEL OF THE RIVER TO BE. IT FLUCTUATES QUITE A BIT. YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO IT. WE'RE LEARNING A LOT ABOUT THE RIVER EVERY DAY. >> Hernandez: SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT -- YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH WIKD3. >> Zanoni: YEAH, THE ROBSTOWN WATER DISTRICT. >> Hernandez: THE ROBSTOWN WATER DISTRICT, YEAH. >> Winkelmann: CORRECT. WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM, AND ACTUALLY, WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS EARLIER, BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM AND WE'RE GOING TO SET UP A MEETING ON MONDAY, IN-PERSON MEETING TO REVIEW THE DATA, AND ALSO TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL OTHER INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS, SUCH AS AN INTERCONNECT. SO WE'RE PICKING THAT UP. WHERE MY PREDECESSOR LEFT OFF. >> Hernandez: OKAY. GOING TO REUSE WITH THE GULF COAST AUTHORITY, THEY WOULD -- THIS WOULD REQUIRE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AFTER THE MOU. WAS THERE A TIMELINE ON THAT, THAT THEY PROVIDED? >> Winkelmann: YEAH. WHAT -- >> Hernandez: I KNOW THERE WAS A COST, BUT I DIDN'T SEE A TIMELINE. >> Winkelmann: YEAH. SO -- SO -- WHAT ARDURRA PRESENTED AN ESTIMATED COST, YOU KNOW, AN OPINION OF PROBABLE CONSTRUCTION COST. WHAT GCA HAS TOLD US IS THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT BEFORE THEY UNDERSTAND -- BEFORE THEY COMMIT TO THEIR LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT. SO -- SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THREE ENTITIES HERE. OF COURSE, THE CITY, WE'VE GOT GCA AND ARDURRA, SO THE PLAN IS WE'RE ALL SITTING IN A ROOM THIS WEEK AND TALK THROUGH IT. >> Hernandez: OKAY. WITH GARVER, THEY -- WE HIRED THEM A WHILE BACK TO DO AN ASSESSMENT, BOTH, I GUESS, DIRECT/INDIRECT POTABLE WATER REUSE. HAVE THEY GIVEN US AN INDICATION FOR THE TIMELINE OR IS THAT GOING TO BE IN THE NEXT MEETING? >> Winkelmann: THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM TO DO, GIVE US -- >> Hernandez: -- TIMELINE AND COST. >> Winkelmann: AND, AGAIN, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE REAL BUDGETARY COST BECAUSE THE FIRM ENGINEERING HASN'T BEEN DONE, SO -- BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS, DIRECT POTABLE REUSE IS A BIG PROJECT. IT'S BIG TREATMENT. IT'S -- BIG EXPENSE. IT'S THE SAME THING LIKE A SEAWATER DESAL PLANT, RIGHT? IT'S THE SAME KIND OF PROCESS. >> Hernandez: YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PAUSE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IT'S 15 AFTER 5:30 AND WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND GET PUBLIC COMMENT GOING, SO WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT -- NICK TO A FEW MORE QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS. THANK YOU. SO WE HANDLE SIGNIFICANT MATTERS CONCERNING TAXPAYER DOLLARS, MAKING IT IMPERATIVE THAT WE UPHOLD THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF DECORUM AND ADHERENCE TO OUR POLICIES. OUR CORE PRINCIPLES OF OPENNESS, TRANSPARENCY AND INCLUSIVENESS GUIDE OUR ACTIONS AND WE AIM TO ACHIEVE THEM WHILE RESPECTING OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY WHICH HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 30 YEARS. PUBLIC COMMENTS SERVES AS ONE AVENUE FOR COMMUNICATION, BUT IT ISN'T THE SOLE METHOD. YOU MAY ALSO REACH OUT TO MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL BY PHONE, E-MAIL OR BY SCHEDULING AN IN-PERSON APPOINTMENT. I ALSO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ADDRESS AN IMPORTANT MATTER. THESE CHAMBERS ARE A PLACE OF PUBLIC BUSINESS, A FORUM FOR CIVIC DISCUSSION, DECISION-MAKING AND SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF CORPUS CHRISTI. IT IS NOT A STAGE FOR PERSONAL ATTACKS, DISRUPTIONS OR VULGARITY. VIOLATIONS OF DECORUM WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. THERE HAVE BEEN REPEATED INSTANCES OF INDIVIDUALS USING PROFANITY, SHOUTING OVER OTHERS AND SHARING BLATANT DISREGARD THAT GOVERN OUR PROCEEDINGS. I'VE ALLOWED SPACE FOR DIFFERING VIEWPOINTS AND I WILL CONTINUE TO RESPECT DISAGREEMENT BUT I WILL NOT ALLOW THIS PUBLIC THAT WE SERVE TO BE DISRESPECTED. YOU MAY SEE COUNCILMEMBERS GO TO THE BACK BEHIND US, BUT JUST KNOW THAT THERE ARE -- THERE'S AUDIO AND TELEVISIONS BACK THERE WHERE THEY STAY FULLY ENGAGED. SO AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY, MR. RISLEY, TO REVIEW THE RULES OF DECORUM. . >> Risley: [READING DECORUM RULES] >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. RISLEY. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND THE CITY IN WHICH YOU LIVE BEFORE BEGINNING YOUR COMMENTS. CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES WHILE NONRESIDENT COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO ONE MINUTE. A VISIBLE TIMER POSITIONED NEAR THE CITY CERTIFICATE'S DESK WILL HELP MANAGE THE ALLOTTED TIME. RESIDENTS WILL BE GIVEN PRIORITY IN SPEAKING OVER NONRESIDENTS AND IF YOU HAVE A PETITION OR ANY RELEVANT INFORMATION, IF YOU'LL PLEASE GIVE IT TO MRS. HUERTA, SHE'LL GIVE IT TO US BEFORE YOU BEGIN SPEAKING. TODAY WE HAVE 17 SPEAKERS. AND WE'LL START WITH KEENAN LAYMAN. >> >> HEY, GUYS, I DO HAVE A PETITION BUT I WAS NOT AWARE I SHOULD HAVE PRINTED OFF SEVERAL COPIES. I HAVE GIVEN IT TO SYLVIA, SO -- >> City Secretary: CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY, PLEASE. >> KEY NAN LAYMAN, CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS. SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ THE PETITION SO YOU PHIS CAN HEAR IT. I OWN A BUSINESS OFF OF EVERHART. IT'S BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW AND I THINK IT'S SUBJECT TO END IN ABOUT SIX MONTHS OR EIGHT MONTHS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I'VE LOOKED AT THE TIMELINE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROJECTING. SO THIS PETITION I'LL READ IT WORD FOR WORD. IT SAYS WE THE BUSINESSES OF EVERHART BETWEEN ALAMEDA AND SPID ARE DEMANDING ECONOMIC RELIEF FROM THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT BEGAN IN 2023 AND IS SUBJECT TO END IN 2026. THIS PROJECT HAS FORCED BUSINESSES TO LOSE UNSEEN PROFITS, SET THEM BACK YEARS OF PROGRESS, EVEN FORCING MANY TO CLOSE OR PAY MOVING COSTS AND FIND ANOTHER LOCATION. WE ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND DEMAND THAT THE CITY PAY THE LOST REVENUE TO ENSURE THAT LOCAL BUSINESSES DO NOT GO UNDER BUT REMAIN A PART OF EVERHART ROAD. THE CITY HAS NEGLECTED THESE LOCAL BUSINESSES WITHOUT CARE OR CONSIDERATION. WE ARE DEMANDING THAT THE CITY PAY OUT ECONOMIC RELIEF IMMEDIATELY TO THESE BUSINESSES AND ALL WHO HAVE BEEN AFFECTED. AND THEN I HAVE ABOUT 30 SIGNATURES FROM DIFFERENT BUSINESS OWNERS ON THE ROAD WITH AN ESTIMATED LOSS OF $4 MILLION IN REVENUE, JUST COLLECTIVELY. JUST A SMALL ESTIMATE. I ASKED EVERYBODY TO WRITE DOWN HOW MUCH MONEY THEY THOUGHT THEY'D LOST OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT THEY COULD DIRECTLY DRAW FROM THE CONSTRUCTION, DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPENING, LIKE THEIR BEING ABLE TO PULL INTO THEIR BUSINESS WAS BLOCKED OFF AND THAT WHOLE DAY THEY WOULDN'T MAKE ANY MONEY AND NORMALLY IT WOULD BE LIKE A $2,000 DAY, SO THAT'S $2,000. SO THEY RECORDED IT ALL DOWN AND WROTE IN A VERY, VERY ROUGH ESTIMATE ABOUT $4 MILLION. SO, AGAIN, WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT THE CITY WOULD PLEASE CONSIDER PUTTING IN SOME SORT OF ECONOMIC RELIEF PROGRAM FOR THESE SMALL BUSINESSES. A LOT OF CITIES HAVE PROGRAMS LIKE THIS, SMALL GRANTS THAT THEY CAN GIVE TO BUSINESSES THAT ARE AFFECTED BY CONSTRUCTION. IT IS A VERY COMMON THING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY CORPUS CHRISTI DOESN'T HAVE IT. YOU GUYS -- WELL, WE DO HAVE THE -- YOU GUYS DO MAKE THE SIGNS FOR THE BUSINESSES, I THINK. >> Mayor Guajardo: UH-HUH. >> AND THIS WOULD FALL UNDER, I GUESS THAT SAME JURISDICTION OF WHATEVER -- WHOSEVER DOING THAT. BUT, AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING FOR DIRECT REVENUE, LIKE -- OR ECONOMIC RELIEF. SORRY. THAT'S IT. I'M DONE. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. LAYMAN. WE APPRECIATE IT. MR. ZANONI, I DID RECEIVE YOUR E-MAIL. >> AWESOME. >> Mayor Guajardo: AND WE DID SEND IT OUT. PETER, BUT IF WE CAN LOOK INTO HOW WE CAN -- I MEAN, SOMETIMES THERE ARE WAYS TO BETTER MANAGE, RIGHT, THE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THE BUSINESSES, SIMILAR TO ALAMEDA, REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD THE ISSUE ON ALAMEDA. WE'LL LOOK INTO IT AND WE'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU. WE'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU. >> AGAIN. THIS ISN'T -- I MEAN, THE CONSTRUCTION CREWS, THAT'S LIKE A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING. THE CONSTRUCTION CREWS ARE HORRIBLE AND THE WAY THAT THEY'VE MANAGED THEIR TIME HAS BEEN HORRIBLE. I'VE COUNTLESS AMOUNTS OF FOOTAGE OF THEM JUST SITTING AROUND DOING NOTHING FOR TWO OR THREE HOURS. IT'S ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE. AND THEY ARE WORKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, THEY'RE NOT WORKING OVERNIGHT, SO THEY'RE NOT WORKING 24 HOURS, WHICH MOST CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES DO IN BIGGER BUSINESS -- IN BIGGER CITIES IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. LAYMAN, AND THAT'S WHY I JUST DIRECTED THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND WE'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, GUYS. >> Mayor Guajardo: BRAD BARTLESON. >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: GO AHEAD. >> Scott: SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE INTERSECTION WORK AT SPID AND EVERHART HAD ELIMINATED ALL TRAFFIC. I'M A FREQUENTER OF EVERHART. IT'S JUST DIFFICULT. AND THEY SAY THAT'S GOING TO BE FINISHED IN DECEMBER. THAT WOULD BE A FIRST START. SO ANY CONVERSATION WE HAVE, THE CONTRACTOR TO GET THAT INTERSECTION WORK DONE IN NOVEMBER, THAT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL. AND THEN I, I GUESS, IT'S MARCH FOR THE REST. IF YOU CAN JUST KIND OF CONFIRM THAT TIMELINE AND THEN IF YOU CAN HAVE THE CONTRACTOR TO DO WHAT THEY CAN TO EXPEDITE. SORRY MAYOR. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. >> Mayor Guajardo: BRAD BARTLESON. >> [OFF MIC] >> I'LL START. GOOD AFTERNOON, BRAD BART L SOP, DISTRICT 5. I PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED ON THE MERITS OF EVAPORATION CONTROL ON LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI, THE LAKE NOW IS AT 16%, WILL CONTINUE TO DESCEND FURTHER AS WE'VE SEEN. THESE MERITS NOW INCREASE FOR THIS. NOTE THAT THE LAKE SIZE IS 1/2 OF WHAT IT WAS A YEAR AGO. NEXT SLIDE. WITH OUR PLANNED USE AT 32 MGD AND EVAPORATION AT 57, WE'RE LOSING TWICE AS MUCH TO EVAPORATION AS WE'RE GETTING OUT OF IT. THERE IS A SOLUTION THAT IS EASY -- EASY DECISION TO MAKE AMIDST OUR CURRENT WATER TURMOIL. THIS IS FLOATING SOLAR. IT'S EASY FOR US, AS WE HAVE NO CAPITAL NOR OPERATING INVESTMENT. THERE ARE CORPORATE ENTITIES WHICH WILL PAY FOR THIS IN EXCHANGE FOR THE REVENUE FROM POWER GENERATION. THESE CAN BE DEPLOYED IN A DISTRIBUTED FLOATING ISLAND MANNER, ALLOWING YET FOR RECREATIONAL USE, WE GET FREE EVAPORATION CONTROL, IT ASSISTS IN RESTORING THE LAKE LEVEL AND ENERGY IS ADDED TO OUR GRID. EVERYONE WINS. AS THE CITY OWNS LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI, THEY'RE A DECISION-MAKER. THE COSTS WE WOULD HAVE ARE FOR A FEASIBILITY STUDY, ANY PERMITS NEEDED AND PARTIAL USE OF THE LAKE. TWDB HAS A KEEN EYE ON THIS SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF PRECIOUS WATER, FLOATING SOLAR HAS A GOOD HISTORY AND IS EXPANDING. THESE SYSTEMS FLOAT ON THE WATER SURFACE AND ARE ANCHORED TO THE BOTTOM. THEY'VE BEEN SHOWN TO BE DURABLE AGAINST WIND AND STORMS. USING TWDB EVAPORATION DATA COVERING 29% OF THE LAKE WILL YIELD BACK 21 MGD. THIS WOULD BEGIN WITH A FEASIBILITY STUDY, A DEMONSTRATION PROJECT BEFORE LARGER IMPLEMENTATION. THE BEAUTY OF THIS PLAN IS THAT WE GET WATER BENEFIT WITHOUT CAPITAL OUTLAY AND NO OPEX AS WELL. EVERYONE WILLS. IT'S AN EASY DECISION. THE REQUEST AT THIS TIME IS TO DEVELOP A STATEMENT OF WORK AND FUND A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO THAT UPON SUCH SUCCESSFUL DEMONSTRATION PROJECT FUNDED BY THE COMPANY WOULD BE ENGAGED. THIS WOULD ALL BE AN OPEN-BID PROCESS WITH MULTIPLE BIDDERS ENGAGED. THIS ISN'T A TOTAL SOLUTION FOR WATER, YET IT CAN BE A PART OF THIS, AND IT COSTS US ALMOST NOTHING. FLOATING SOLAR FITS OUR GOALS AND OUR BEST DECISION PROCESS IN WATER RESOURCING, THAT OF PEOPLE FIRST AND COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, LIVING WITHIN OUR MEANS INSTEAD OF BORROWING AWAY OUR FUTURE AS A WISE WAY TO LIVE. SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE ASK HOW MUCH BECAUSE THEY PURCHASE OUT OF THEIR MEANS, WHILE POOR PEOPLE ASK HOW MUCH PER MONTH, GIVING AWAY THEIR FUTURE. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. BARTLESON. >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: YES, COUNCILWOMAN? >> Campos: THANK YOU. PETER, AS YOU KNOW THIS HAS BEEN PRESENTED AS PART OF OUR WORKSHOP. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO THIS STUDY. >> Zanoni: YES, THERE IS. I'LL WORK WITH NICK ON IT. >> Campos: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: RICHARD MELBY. >> >> I'M RICHARD -- [LAPSE IN AUDIO] I'M GOING TO YIELD TO PASTOR ROBERT SIMMONS. >> ROBERT SIMMONS, CORPUS CHRISTI. I WANTED TO START OUT BY SAYING I HEARD ALL YOUR RULES. WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS OR CRITICISMS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, JUST RELAX A LITTLE BIT. WE HAVE SEVERAL PASTORS WHO STAND TOGETHER ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS, AND SO WHAT WE'VE COME TODAY WITH, I HOPE, IS CONSIDERED VERY POSITIVE. WE ALL LOVE CORPUS CHRISTI AND THE PEOPLE OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND WE ALL LOVE OUR LORD. WHILE WE COME FROM DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONAL BACKGROUNDS, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE'RE TOGETHER ON. I'M ONLY TALKING BECAUSE THEY WANTED ME OUT FRONT BECAUSE I'M SHORT. AND, OF COURSE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT JESUS CHRIST IS KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS; THAT HE DIED FOR US ON THE CROSS, WAS BURIED AND ROSE AGAIN THREE DAYS LATER. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A WATER PROBLEM IN CORPUS CHRISTI, BEEN SITTING THERE LISTENING TO IT FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW. WE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF MECHANICAL THINGS, A LOT OF ISSUES TO DEAL WITH THERE. WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE GOD OF HEAVEN CAN DO THAT WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE, SO WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT LA NINA, AND LA NINA BRINGS DROUGHT, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A GOD WHO'S BIGGER THAN DROUGHT. AND WE HAVE A GOD WHO CAN BRING RAIN OUT OF NOTHING BECAUSE WE HAVE A GOD WHO CAN DO THE IMPOSSIBLE. SO WHAT WE HAVE TO BRING BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A CALL TO PRAYER IN THE FORM OF A RESOLUTION, IF YOU DON'T MIND IF I READ IT. WHEREAS THE SPANISH EXPLORER ALONZO ALVAREZ DEPENEDA IN 1519 DISCOVERED AND NAMED OUR BAY IN HONOR OF THE CHRISTIAN FEAST DAY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. AND WHEREAS OUR BELOVED CITY CORPUS CHRISTI MEANS BODY OF CHRIST AND WHEREAS THE SCRIPTURES TEACH THAT GOD ALWAYS BLESSES FAITHFUL OBEDIENCE OF ANY PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW HIS COMMANDS AND PRECEPTS AND WHEREAS THROUGHOUT HISTORY GOD HAS CLOSED THE HEAVENS, AND WITHHELD RAIN AS A DISCIPLINE TO PEOPLE WHO DISOBEYED HIS COMMANDS AND PRECEPTS, DEUTERONOMY 11:17, FIRST KINGS EIGHT:35, SECOND CHRONICLES 6:2, AND WHEREAS WE THE CITIZENS OF CORPUS CHRISTI HAVE EXPERIENCED A DROUGHT FOR THE PAST SEVEN YEARS. AND WHEREAS GOD TOLD SOLOMON FOLLOWING HIS PRAYER OF DEDICATION OVER THE NEWLY COMPLETED TEMPLE, IF I SHUT UP THE HEAVENS SO THAT THERE IS NO RAIN, OR IF I COMMAND THE LOCUSTS TO DEVOUR THE LAND, OR IF I SEND PESTILENCE AMONG MY PEOPLE, AND MY PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND PRAY AND SEEK MY FACE AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS, THEN WILL I HEAR FROM HEAVEN, WILL F FORGIVE THEIR SINS AND WILL HEAL THEIR LAND. THEREFORE WE THE PASTORS AND GATEKEEPERS OF CORPUS CHRISTI, UNITING OUR HEARTS IN OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST DO HERE BY CALL UPON THE CITIZENS OF CORPUS CHRISTI TO FAST, PRAY AND REPENT BEFORE THE GOD OF HEAVEN TO SHOW HIS MERCY UPON US, AND TO OPEN THE HEAVENS AND FILL OUR WATERSHED TO OVERFLOWING. WE ARE -- THERE ARE MANY CHURCHES THIS WEEKEND WHO WILL BE HAVING JOINT PRAYER SERVICES. AT OUR CHURCH, EIGHT TO 10 PASTORS HAVE COME TOGETHER. WE EXPECT A LOT OF PEOPLE TO SHOW UP. WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING AT 6:30, THERE WILL BE OTHERS ACROSS THE CITY IN WHICH WE WILL BE CALLING UPON THE LORD TO SEND RAIN. WE INVITE YOU TO JOIN ONE OF THOSE GATHERINGS. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU. COME AND BE A PART. >> IN OUR TIME ALLOTTED LEFT, IS THAT THE END OF THE FIVE MINUTES? >> Mayor Guajardo: I THINK, RIGHT? >> OKAY. LET ME JUST OFFER A PRAYER, OKAY, A REPENTANCE ON BEHALF OF OUR CITY. FATHER, WE'RE IN SO NEED OF WATER RIGHT NOW, AND WE CALL UPON THE GOD OF CREATION, WHO CONTROLS THE WEATHER, THAT YOU WOULD OPEN THE HEAVENS, LORD, AND FILL OUR WATERSHED. FORGIVE US OUR SINS IN THIS CITY, LORD, HELP US, WE PRAY, AS A PEOPLE TO HONOR YOU AND ALL OF OUR LIVES. BLESS THIS COUNCIL I PRAY AND THE HARD DECISIONS THEY HAVE TO MAKE, BUT GOD, PERFORM THAT MIRACLE THAT PEOPLE MIGHT SEE YOUR GLORY, IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. >> AMEN. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, PASTOR. ER RIERIC VON WADE. >> I, TOO, WILL NOT BE CRITICIZING ANYBODY TODAY, EXCEPT I CAME TO PRAISE AN ELEMENT OF OUR CITY THAT I THINK. >> City Secretary: CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY. >> CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS, SORRY, GOT CARRIED AWAY. I WAS STILL PRAYING. PRAYING FOR RAIN WORKS. DISTRICT 2, ALTHOUGH I CHASED HIM AWAY. THERE'S ROOM ENOUGH FOR TWO ERICS IN THIS ROOM. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. I THINK THE COUNCIL THAT WE NEED IS THE COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE. YOU ALL CAN DO WONDERFUL THINGS WITH THE CITY BEHIND YOU. ONE THING I DON'T WANT US TO FORGET ABOUT, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THOSE MEN AND WOMEN IN BLUE, OUR POLICE FORCE, THEY HAVE A WILLINGNESS TO PUT THEMSELVES IN HARMS WAY FOR US EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE SPEAK ABOUT IT IN GENEITIS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM SPECIFICS, THERE ARE SOME PROGRAMS THAT I HOPE WE CONTINUE TO BACK AND WE GIVE OUR CHIEF MARKLE ALL THE SUPPORT, WHEREVER HE IS, THAT HE NEEDS ON THIS. OUR SPECIAL GANG UNIT AND OUR SPECIAL VIOLENCE UNIT IN PARTICULAR. ON AUGUST THE FIRST OF THIS YEAR, APPROXIMATELY 12:30 A.M. I WAS AT WHAT USED TO BE THE BUCCANEER APARTMENTS, NOW THE SPANISH BAY, I WAS GETTING A CLEAN SHIRT OUT OF THE BACK OF MY JEEP WHEN I WAS ATTACKED BY THREE MEN WITH GUNS. TWO WITH NINE MILLIMETER SEMIAUTOMATIC HANDGUNS AND ONE WITH AN AK STYLE RIFLE WITH A FOLDING STOCK AND BANANA CLIP. THEY BEGAN TO STRIKE ME NUMEROUS TIMES IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD. I REFUSED TO DO SO. I PREOCCUPIED THEM WITH THE CHALLENGE OF TRYING TO KNOCK ME UNCONSCIOUS OR FORCE ME TO SURRENDER MY JEEP. I THOUGHT THAT MAYBE IF I STALLED LONG ENOUGH SOMEBODY WOULD CALL 9-1-1 OR THERE MIGHT BE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT WOULD COME OUTSIDE SINCE THEY SHOT AT ME THREE TIMES POINT BLANK RANGE AND MISSED. THE LAST TIME THEY HAD THE GUN POINTED AT MY FACE AS I'D RIPPED OUT OF MY SHIRT THAT THEY WERE USING TO TWRIE TO CONTROL ME AND I SAW THE INDIVIDUAL SQUINT. I TOOK A CHANCE AND DUCKED TO THE LEFT AND HE SHOT PAST MY RIGHT EAR. ONE WOMAN CAME OUTSIDE OF THAT APARTMENT WITH NO WEAPON AND DEMANDED THAT THEY LEAVE WITH TERMS THAT ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE HERE AT COUNCIL, BUT FIT THE MOMENT AT THE TIME. THEY TURNED THEIR WEAPONS AT HER AND I SURRENDERED THE KEYS TO MY JEEP AT THAT MOMENT BECAUSE I FIGURED THERE WAS SOMEBODY ELSE'S LIFE AT RISK BESIDES MY OWN. WHEN FINALLY CALLING 9-1-1, BEFORE THAT, I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE END OF IT. THEY WERE GOING TO LEAVE. THEY SHOT HER IN THE BACK. IT PENETRATED HER LUNG, HER SPLEEN AND THEY HAD TO REMOVE PART OF HER LOWER INTESTINE AND HER SPLEEN. SHE WAS IN ICU FOR FOUR DAYS. WHEN THE POLICE DID ARRIVE, IT WAS THE MOST PROFESSIONAL AND ON-POINT OPERATION I HAVE EVER SEEN. THOSE TWO CAPTURED THE INDIVIDUALS OF MY DESCRIPTION WITHIN A COUPLE OF HOURS, RETURNED MY JEEP AND I IDENTIFIED THEM IN THE FIELD. I HAVE BEEN TRAINING WITH A LOT OF UNITED STATES ARMY, MARINE CORPS AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN A MORE PROFESSIONAL OR EXPEDIENT FORM OF JUSTICE SERVED. OUR MEN AND WOMEN DO NOT JUST HAVE THE COURAGE TO PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY EVERY DAY, THEY HAVE THE TRAINING, THE COMMITMENT TO BE THE BEST THERE IS. I WOULD PUT OUR POLICE FORCE UP AGAINST EVERY ONE ELSE ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE OUR BACKING AND OW OUR SUPPORT. AND THE WHOM WHO TOOK THE BULLET CAME HERE TODAY, IT'S OUR FIRST TIME TO CITY COUNCIL, I KNOW WE CAN'T APPLAUD. I'LL GIVE THE FIRST TIME THE COUNCIL AND AGAIN SHE'S VERY THANKFUL AS WELL. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. VON WADE AND WE'VE GOT TWO OF THEM RIGHT BACK THERE. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO EVERY DAY. THANK Y'ALL, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT TESTIMONY. JESSE LA POINT. JESSE LA POINT. OKAY. SUZIE SALDAÑA. >> SUZIE SALDAÑA, CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE JUST GONE THROUGH A BUDGET. YOU KNOW HOW HARD UP WE ARE FOR MONEY. YOU KNOW, IT JUST SADDENS ME TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY YOU GUYS ARE SPENDING ON ATTORNEYS WHEN THERE WAS NO NEED FOR IT. OKAY? SO IF YOU HAVE TO CLEAR UP WHAT YOU HAVE TO CLEAR UP, IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT YOU GUYS REALIZE THAT YOU CANNOT BE JUST SPENDING MONEY WHEN WE'RE IN A DEFICIT IN SOME OF OUR ISSUES HERE. IT IS SAD TO HEAR HOW MUCH MONEY'S GOING TO BE SPENT. YES, YOU SHOULD HAVE A DEFENSE. YES, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DEFEND YOURSELF, HOWEVER YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THAT THAT MONEY'S COMING OUT OF TAXPAYERS, AND THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE COMING ACROSS. IT DOESN'T SEEM TO WE THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, TO SEE THAT THIS IS HAPPENING. WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE LOOKING OUT THERE. WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE COMING TO YOU AND SAYING, LOOK, THANK YOU FOR THE THINGS YOU DO FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. GEE, WE'RE HAPPY YOU DO IT. LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING ON EVERHART AND WHAT'S BEEN HEARD BY THE BUSINESSES? ALL OF THESE ISSUES ARE TOGETHER. WHATEVER YOU TAKE OUT OF ONE POT COMES OUT OF THAT HUGE POT OF THE GENERAL FUND. SO I WANT YOU TO REALLY THINK HARD ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING. REALLY THINK HARD ON WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE CITIZENS OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO OUR TOWN. PASTORS SAID IT RIGHT, WE NEED WATER. THAT SHOULD BE OUR PRIORITY. WE DEFINITELY NEED WATER, BUT WE ALSO NEED MONEY TO GET THINGS DONE, AND TO GET THINGS DONE THAT ARE IMPORTANT AND NOT BECAUSE OF LEGAL FEES. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MS. SALDAÑA. ADAM RIOS? >> >> ADAM RIOS, CORPUS CHRISTI. I'M GOING TO BE AS POSITIVE AS I CAN. JUST WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU GUYS. AS OF YESTERDAY, CORPUS CHRISTI BMX WAS OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED AS A 501(C)3 NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, THIS IS A HUGE STEP FORWARD IN BRINGING OUR VISION TO LIFE AND CREATING A BMX HOME FOR OUR COMMUNITY. BEHIND THIS ACCOMPLISHMENT IS AN ASTOUNDING BOARD OF LEADERS WHO EACH BRING THEIR OWN STRENGTH TO THE TABLE, COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND HANDS-ON WORK, EVERY MEMBER CONTRIBUTES UNIQUE TALENT AS WELL AS DEDICATION. TOGETHER WE'RE FORMING THIS TEAM COMMITTED TO MAKING CORPUS CHRISTI BMX A REALITY. WITH OUR NONPROFIT STATUS SECURED WE'RE MORE THAN EVER DETERMINED TO WORK HARD AND BUILD NOT JUST A TRACK BUT A LASTING LEGACY FOR RIDERS AND FAMILIES IN CORPUS CHRISTI. NOW, THERE'S STILL TOPOGRAPHIC SURVEYS AND SURVEYS CAD WORK TO BE DONE AS WELL AS CITY REVIEWS, BUT HERE'S THE PLOT TWIST, AND I'M GOING TO BE AS POSITIVE AS I CAN ABOUT THIS. WE'RE -- YOU USUALLY HEAR ME TALKING ABOUT INVOLVING SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S THE SKATE COMMUNITY OR BMX COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AS STAKEHOLDERS IN IT THAT WE BE INCLUDED. THERE WAS $50,000 SET ASIDE, WHICH WAS BOND MONEY THAT WAS GOING TO GO INTO THE BMX TRACK AT CELINE NAS TO BE SANCTIONED IN AN AREA OF TOWN THAT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UNFORTUNATELY, A DISCONNECT SEEMED TO HAVE HAPPENED. SOME OF US WEREN'T BEING INVOLVED. WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM USA BMX WHO IS ON OUR BOARD, AND IT SEEMS THAT MOST OF THE MONEY WAS SPENT ON DESIGN, SO NOW THERE'S NO MONEY LEFT OVER FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO YOU BASICALLY DESIGNED SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T BUILD. AND TALKING ABOUT $40,000, ROUGHLY, OF THAT MONEY. NOW, IT CAN STILL BE SAVED AND THERE'S STILL THINGS WE CAN DO, BUT THIS IS WHAT I MEAN ABOUT A DISCONNECT IS OUR REPRESENTATIVE NOT BEING INVOLVED CREATED WHAT I'M ABOUT TO READ TO YOU KIND OF A SNAG ON ALL THIS, BECAUSE UNLESS SOMEBODY FROM USA BMX IS INVOLVED IN THE DESIGN AS A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION, THEY CANNOT SIGN OFF ON IT. SO BASICALLY, WE SPENT THE BUDGET THAT WON'T EVEN BE APPROVED FOR SANCTIONING SO WE CAN'T HAVE CONTESTS HERE AND THEY CAN'T DO IT. SO WE HAVE THE DESIGN FOR A PRETTY EXPENSIVE PRACTICE TRACK, WHICH CAN BE USED, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS WAS TO BRING ATTENTION TO BMX. LIKE I SAID, WE'RE HAVING OUR BMX HALL OF FAME HERE IN CORPUS AND WE DON'T HAVE A TRACK. THERE'S A LOT OF EYES ON CORPUS WITH ALTERNATIVE SPORTS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE HESITATION IS AS FAR AS THE CITY AND VISIT CORPUS CHRISTI AND EVERYBODY COMING TOGETHER. YOU HEAR ME TALK ABOUT X GAMES AND BRING ALL THIS ATTENTION, THIS IS KIND OF PART OF THE PROBLEM. I THINK IT CAN BE SAVED AND I THINK WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. COUNCILMA N BARRERA? >> Barrera: HEY, PETER, WITH KE BAISH I KNOW WE'VE GONE THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF DESIGN SIMPLY BECAUSE OF OVER THERE AT THE GREENWOOD BALL FIELDS AND THEN WITH THE NEW -- THE PROPOSITION OF THE FIRE STATION. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. >> Barrera: AND SO I -- I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET STAFF TO JUST RELOOK AT THAT TO ENSURE -- I MEAN, BECAUSE I KNOW WE DID SOME THINGS, LIKE AT ONE TIME WE TALKED ABOUT TURFING A WHOLE FIELD AND THEN WE SAID WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO THE INFIELD, SO THAT WAY WEA CAN KIND OF DETERMINE WHATEVER THAT INFORMATION CAME OUT TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO OUT THERE, AT LEAST TO GET SOMETHING STARTED. >> Zanoni: SURE. >> Barrera: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. RIOS. AMANDA GUERRA? HELLO, AMANDA GUERRA, CORPUS CHRISTI, DISTRICT 5. SO I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE AWARE, BUT TICKETMASTER'S BEING SUED AND I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI HAS A CONTRACT WITH OVG AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MEETINGS AGO, THEIR CONTRACT IS UP IN 2027, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE INFORMED A YEAR BEFORE IF YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP THE CONTRACT. IF NOT. SO I'M ASKING THAT Y'ALL PLEASE STAY ON TOP OF THAT, PLEASE DO NOT RENEW WITH THIS COMPANY. OBVIOUSLY THEIR CEO WAS FIRED FOR BAD PRACTICES, BUT BASICALLY WHAT TICKETMASTER WAS ALLOWING -- WAS DOING WAS THEY WERE ALLOWING BOTS TO BUY TICKETS. SO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FILED A LAWSUIT ON MAY OF 2024, SWEEPING ANTITRUST LAWSUIT ACCUSING THE COMPANIES OF RUNNING AN ILLEGAL MONOPOLY IN THE LIVE EVENT INDUSTRY ACROSS THE U.S. THE SUIT CLAIMS THAT THE COMPANY'S DOMINANT POSITION AND EXCLUSIONARY CONDUCT HARMS THE FANS, THE ARTISTS, THE FANS AND THE COMPETITION. THE FTC ALLEGES THAT THE LIVE NATION AND TICKETMASTER ARE ALLOWED IN ILLEGAL PRACTICE ALLOWING TICKET BROKERS TO INFLATE PRICES. THE LAWSUIT POINTS TO PRACTICES TO FORCE FANS TO PAY MORE FOR EVENTS AND ALLEGES THAT TICKETMASTER'S DOMINANCE CONTRIBUTE TO HIGHER TICKET PRICES. I WENT TO A CONCERT IN AUSTIN, BOUGHT FIVE TICKETS, HAD GREAT SEATS, AND THEY EVEN HAD LIKE OFFERS, WHEN YOU GO TO THE MOVIES AND YOU CAN GET POPCORN OR A DRINK, THIS WAS A REALLY NICE ESTABLISHMENT, I GOT THE SAME AMOUNT OF TICKETS WITH ALL YOU CAN EAT BARBECUE, DID NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR PARKING, PAID LESS, BUT I WANT Y'ALL TO CONSIDER. I DON'T KNOW WHO'S MAKING THESE CONTRACTS WITH THESE COMPANIES BUT I'M ZERO GOING TO ASK THEY THEY PLEASE STOP GIVING THEM THESE LUXURY PARACHUTES BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TAXPAYERS, BECAUSE IF Y'ALL WERE TO DROP YOUR CONTRACT WITH OVG ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY WOULD STILL GET THEIR BEAUTIFUL PARACHUTE, THEY STILL HAVE TO GET PAID, AND APPARENTLY THAT'S DONE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MRS. GUERRA. ROBERT SIMMONS. ROBERT SIMMONS? MATTHEW RANKIN? >> MATTHEW RANKIN, CORPUS CHRISTI. PEOPLE ON YOUTUBE KNOWN ME AS HBO MATT. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DECORUM RULES BECAUSE AS THE MAYOR SAID, YOUR RULES HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR 30 YEARS SO FOR 30 YEARS YOU'VE BEEN VIOLATING THE LAWL. ROSENFELD VERSUS NEW JERSEY, 1972 RULING FROM THE SUPREME COURT. PROFANITY DIRECTED AT A SCHOOL BOARD CANNOT BE CRIMINALIZED AND IS PROTECTED FREE SPEECH. CULL LEN VERSUS CACA, A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF SAME THING. BUT YOU GUYS IN CORPUS ARE USED TO VIOLATING THE STATE LAW AND THE CONSTITUTION, YOU GUYS ARE THE REASON HALF THE PREEMPTION LAWS IN THE STATE HAVE BEEN PASSED. SO WE'LL GO WITH 551.007E. GOVERNMENT BODY MAY NOT PROHIBIT PUBLIC CRITICISM OF THE GOVERNMENT BODY INCLUDING CRITICISM OF ANY ACT, OMISSION POLICY PROCEDURE PROGRAM OR SERVICE. THIS SUBSECTION DOES NOT APPLY TO PUBLIC CRITICISM THAT IS OTHERWISE PROHIBITED BY LAW. FYI, SUPREME COURT RULED MORE THAN 50 YEARS AGO, PROFANITY DIRECTED AT A PUBLIC BODY AT A PUBLIC MEETING DURING THEIR TIME TO SPEAK CANNOT BE CRIMINALIZED OR PROHIBITED BY LAW. LET'S SEE. 1:45 LEFT. I HAVE SOME OTHER STUFF TO BRING UP WITH YOU GUYS AT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT I'VE GOT TO SAVE IT FOR THEN. BUT LITTLE BOMB SHELL FOR YOU, 4615B6, NEW STATUTE, GOT PASSED A COUPLE YEARS AGO, BUT THEY DID A FUZZY JOB OF GETTING THE WORDING RIGHT, SO TML TOLD YOU GUYS TO IGNORE IT. TWO YEARS AGO, THEY FIXED THE LOOPHOLE, IT'S NOW COMPLETELY IN EFFECT. IT SAYS THAT ANYBODY WITH A CARRY LICENSE CAN CARRY THEIR HANDGUN INTO ANY OPEN MEETING. I'LL LET YOU GUYS TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. GO DO YOUR RESEARCH. FOR SOME REASON, TML DIDN'T SEND OUT A SECOND MEMO SAYING IT HAD BEEN FIXED AND COULDN'T BE IGNORED ANYMORE. BUT I'LL SAVE THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING. ALSO POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN'T BE HIDING BEHIND COURT SECURITY, SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THE AG TO FINISH THEIR INSPECTION -- THEIR INVESTIGATION. YOU GUYS IGNORED THE NOTICE I GAVE YOU. SO I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THIS TO ANYBODY ELSE WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH THE DECORUM RULES, WHICH UNLAWFUL, UNCONSTITUTIONAL, JUST DROP THIS AT THE END OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY. FUCK THE MAYO [EXPLETIVE] THE MAYOR AND [EXPLETIVE YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: YOUR TIME'S UP. >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: I'M SORRY, MA'AM. I NEED YOU TO COME IN. >> HE'S LEAVING THE PODIUM, SO... YOU -- THE PROCESS WOULD BE TO ASK HIM TO LEAVE, WHICH YOU DID. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. ISABEL ARAIZA. >> ISABEL ARAIZA, DISTRICT 2, COFOUNDER FOR THE GREATER GOOD. SINCE THE DESAL VOTE, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING HOW ARE WE GOING TO RESOLVE THE WATER CRISIS AND I'M HERE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON INDUSTRIAL WATER USE. THERE IS NO WAY AROUND THAT. OF THE ALMOST 39 BILLION-GALLONS OF WATER BILLED IN 2024, RESIDENTS ONLY USED 13.6%. THIS JULY WE USED 12.3% AND IN AUGUST WE USED 12.6%. RESIDENTS USE WATER FOR LIFE, DRINKING BATHING FLUSHING TOILETS, COOKING AND CLEANING. INDUSTRY USES WATER FOR PROFITS AN THEY USE THE LION'S SHARE OF OUR WATER. WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT, AND HERE'S SOME OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO. ONE, END THE DROUGHT EXEMPTION FOR HIGH VOLUME WATER USERS. IT'S ONLY BEEN AROUND SINCE 2018. GET RID OF IT. INDUSTRY USES THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR TREATED AND RAW WATER IN THEIR DROWBILITY EXEMPTION. TWO, ENACT A VERSION OF THE CITY'S DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN. SECTION 2 CALLS STAGE 3 DROUGHT A CRITICAL WATER SHORTAGE AND SAYS WE SHOULD REDUCE TREATED WATER DEMAND BY 30% OR MORE. WE HAVE BEEN IN STAGE 3 SINCE DECEMBER OF 2024, MANDATE REDUCTIONS FOR INDUSTRY'S WATER USE NOT JUST FOR TREATED WATER, BUT FOR RAW WATER, TOO. IF THEY DON'T MEET THE REDUCTION, CHARGE THEM A DROUGHT SURCHARGE. RIGHT NOW RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN CONSERVING WATER AND YOU INCREASED OUR WATER RATES. THAT IS PERVERSE. THE WATER USE RATES SHOULD ACTUALLY REWARD CUSTOMERS WHO USE LESS, BUT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THE CITY CATERS TO INDUSTRY, THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENS. THREE, USE THE POWER YOU ALREADY HAVE. THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 55 DASH 154 GIVES THE CITY THE AUTHORITY TO ESTABLISH A SURCHARGE WHICH IS INTENDED TO, AND I QUOTE, REGULATE AND DETER THE USE OF WATER DURING THE PERIOD OF SERIOUS DROUGHT IN OSHED DER TO ACHIEVE NECESSARY WATER CONSERVATION. THE CITY KEEPS TALKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF WATER, IF YOU BELIEVE THAT, USE THE POWER YOU HAVE, END THE DROUGHT RESTRICTION FOR HIGH-VOLUME WATER USERS. MANDATE A REDUCTION IN INDUSTRY'S WATER USE AND IMPOSE A DROUGHT SURCHARGE ON INDUSTRY. AND IF THEY FAIL TO MEET THEIR REDUCTION AND DEMAND GOALS, YOU HAVE THE POWER TO USE IT, USE -- IMPOSE THAT DROUGHT SURCHARGE. FOUR, CREATE A NEW DASHBOARD SIMILAR TO YOUR WATER SUPPLY DASHBOARD, BUT LET'S CALL IT THE HIGH VOLUME WATER USER'S DASHBOARD. FOR THE TOP 10 OR 20 WATER USERS, MAINTAIN A DASHBOARD THAT HAS A BAR GRAPH FOR EACH CORPORATION THAT SHOWS THEIR PREVIOUS DAY WATER USE AND THE SAME DAY REPORT FOR THE PREVIOUS THREE YEARS. WE HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHO'S USING THE WATER, NOT JUST IF THE WATER'S THERE. I HAVE OTHER IDEAS ABOUT THE CORPUS CHRISTI REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION WHO I THINK IS ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTED TO OUR WATER CRISIS, BUT I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME, SO I'LL BE BACK NEXT TIME TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. RACHEL CABALLERO. >> RACHEL CABALLERO, D1. JUST NOT THAT I'M SUPPORTING VERBAL BAD WORDS HERE, BUT JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT THE U.S. CONSTITUTION FIRST AMENDMENT SUPERSEDES ANY STATE LAW OR CITY ORDINANCE, ALWAYS. AND YOU GUYS NEED TO LOOK THAT UP. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH SOME OF YOU IS THAT YOU'RE LYING, YOU'RE LYING ON RECORD, YOU'RE MISLEADING THE COMMUNITY, YOU'RE STEALING TAXPAYER DOLLARS, YOU'RE COSTING THE COMMUNITY MORE TAXPAYER DOLLARS BECAUSE YOU ARE LIARS, AND IT'S FRUSTRATING PEOPLE. AND THEY'RE COMING IN HERE, THERE WAS -- I'M A CHRISTIAN, I SUPPORT PRAYING FOR RAIN AND PRAYING FOR THIS EXTREMELY CORRUPT PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING HERE, NOT ALL OF YOU, BUT THAT WAS A DEMONSTRATION. WHEN WE TRIED TO STAND UP TO SUPPORT OUR FELLOW NONDESAL SUPPORTERS, THAT WAS A DEMONSTRATION. NOW YOU HAD 11 PASTORS SITTING UP HERE, THAT WAS A DEMONSTRATION. IF I HAD 10 PEOPLE COME AND STAND BEHIND ME, THAT IS A DEMONSTRATION. THIS IS THE PART THAT INFURIATES PEOPLE AND ANTAGONIZES THEM TO ACT OUT IN NEGATIVE WAYS. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHY WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND THIS. AND A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL THAT'S SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE THE HEAD OF THE COUNCIL ALSO PUBLICLY THANKED COMMENTERS EARLIER TODAY. THAT'S OUTSIDE OF DECORUM. AND YOU CONTINUOUSLY ASK PEOPLE TO FOLLOW RULES THAT NONE OF YOU ARE FOLLOWING. LIES, DECEIT, FEAR MONGERING, LYING UNDER OATH. THIS IS INSANITY. THE COMMUNITY IS EXHAUSTED. WE ARE READY TO REPLACE EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT CONTINUES TO BEHAVE IN THIS MANNER, INCLUDING ALL CITY STAFF, ALL CITY STAFF. WE WILL JUST START OVER AGAIN. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND DEFINITELY HAVE THE DAY YOU DESERVE, AND THANK YOU FOR NOT ASKING ME TO LEAVE FOR BEING BOISTEROUS. >> Mayor Guajardo: JASON HALE, THEN WE'LL HAVE DANIEL PEÑA, CHRISTINA ENGLISH, MARK MÜNSTER AND ELI McKAY. >> JASON HALE, CORPUS CHRISTI, THANK YOU, MAYOR, GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCILMEMBERS. TODAY I WANT TO START OUT WITH AN UPDATE, IT'S PAGE 3 AND 4 FROM THE HANDOUT. BASICALLY, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THE MODELING DATA AND -- WELL THE MODELING AND THE DATA FOR THE INNER HARBOR PROJECT. I SUBMITTED A REQUEST WITH THE CITY AND THE TCEQ, AND NEITHER OF THEM HAVE THE MODELING AND THE DATA USED FOR THE 2023 MODELING, WHICH WAS USED FOR THE PERMIT THAT WAS ISSUED THIS YEAR, LAST YEAR. AND I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS HOW FRUSTRATING AND DISAPPOINTING THAT IS, BECAUSE WE LITERALLY HAVE THE TEXAS FOUNDATION FOR CONSERVATION WHO'S PUTTING UP MONEY TO GET A SECOND OPINION ON THIS DATA, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A HUGE BENEFIT TO THE CITY, BECAUSE WE NEED SECOND -- A SECOND PAIR OF EYES ON THIS TYPE OF PROJECT THAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR BAYS. AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT MOST RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. SO, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO UPDATE Y'ALL ON THAT. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, I HAVE THE MODELING AND THE DATA USED TO SUBSTANTIATE THIS PROJECT, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD VACATE THE PERMITS, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, PROVING OUR WORK AND THERE'S NO WAY FOR PEOPLE TO DOUBLE-CHECK IT. AND SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, SO PLEASE DO WHAT YOU CAN TO GET THAT MODELING AND DATA FROM THE CONTRACTORS, THE ENGINEERING FIRMS. AND SECOND, I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WATER SUPPLY DEVELOPMENTS, THAT'S PAIGE 1 AND 2 OF THE HANDOUT. BASICALLY OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, Y'ALL WILL BE REVIEWING OVER 150 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY OF NEW WATER PROJECTS, WHICH IS ENOUGH TO DOUBLE OUR WATER SUPPLIES, AND WHILE THAT DOES SOUND GREAT, THE COST INVOLVED ARE IMMENSE, AND SO BASICALLY I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU KEEP IN MIND THE AFFORDABILITY OF WATER FOR RESIDENTS, BUT AFFORDABILITY ISN'T THE ONLY FACTOR. IF WE TIE UP ALL OF THESE SUPPLIES TODAY, FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL HAVE LIMITED OPTIONS FOR NEW WATER SUPPLIES, SO I'M ASKING THAT YOU KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL. AND SO I JUST KIND OF -- ON PAGE 2, I SKETCHED OUT LIKE WHAT I BELIEVE WE'D SAY THE PLAN IS, AND THAT IS TO PRETEND THAT LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI AND CHOKE CANYON DON'T EXIST, AND SO YOU HAVE 70 FROM MARY RHODES, YOU HAVE 28 FROM THE GROUNDWATER WELLS ON THE NUECES RIVER, WHICH LEAVES 21 MILLION-GALLONS TO MEET THE WATER DEMANDS WE HAD FOR 2023. SO HOW Y'ALL DO THAT IS UP TO YOU, EVANGELINE WOULD BE MORE THAN THAT, AND SO WHEN WE DO GET THE RAIN THAT WE ARE DUE FOR, THAT MEANS WE WOULD HAVE 184 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY AVAILABLE WHICH GIVES US A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY FOR DIFFERENT STUFF I LAID OUT IN THE COMMENT. THANKS. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. HALE. DANIEL PENA. >> I'M DANIEL PENA. DISTRICT 1. LIFELONG RESIDENT OF CORPUS CHRISTI. I STAND WITH HILLCREST SO THAT'S WHERE I'M FROM. BORN AND RAISED, YOU KNOW? AGAIN, I'M STILL ON THE FOOD TRUCKS. I'M NOT GOING TO LET IT GO. I CAN'T. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE AS A SMALL BUSINESS, WHICH WE ARE A SMALLER SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE SEEM TO OVERLOOK AND THINK WE'RE MADE OF MONEY. YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO OUR FIRE MARSHAL. Y'ALL KNOW I BROUGHT IT TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION. I BROUGHT Y'ALL THE ORDINANCE. I BROUGHT Y'ALL STATE LAW THAT SAYS WHAT Y'ALL VOTED INTO EFFECT IS ILLEGAL. THEY HADN'T GOTTEN THEIR PERMITS FROM LAST YEAR BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE RULES. THEY'RE MANIPULATING THE LAW Y'ALL VOTED IN AGAIN. THEY'RE MAKING NEW RULES FOR Y'ALL TO COME IN HERE AND SAY Y'ALL NEED TO GET THIS TYPE OF HOSE. THAT'S NOT HOW THAT WORKS. ONCE YOU MAKE A MEMORANDUM OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, IT'S NOT A TWIST OF WORDS, IT'S NOT HOW YOU INTERPRET IT, IT'S WHAT'S IN THE LAW. IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE NEW HOSES THAT I BROUGHT TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION, THEY DO NOW AND THEY'RE PUSHING THEM AWAY FROM THOSE HOSES AGAIN. HE'S GOING OUT ABOUT AGAIN AND THEY'RE MESSING AROUND WITH FOOD TRUCKS WITH A DECIBEL METER. HE'S DOING IT TO OTHER TRUCKS. HE DON'T REALIZE HOW MANY TRUCKS ARE BEHIND ME. I DON'T COME UP HERE AND DEMONSTRATE WITH 40, 50 FOOD TRUCK OWNERS. I DON'T NEED TO DO THAT. I'VE ALREADY BEEN BLACKBALLED ALL THROUGH THE CITY. I HAVE SHOWN Y'ALL E-MAILS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I'M GOING TO SHOW Y'ALL I HAVE THE PERMITS AND I PROTEST AND I WON'T POST IT. I HAVE ONE FOR MY FOOD TRUCKS. ANYBODY ASKS FOR THEM, THEY'RE HERE. I DON'T HAVE NO QUESTION ON TWO DIFFERENT TRAILERS. I DON'T POST THEM BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING ALL THIS MONEY. JUST RIGHT HERE, THAT'S $500 FOR FOUR PIECES OF PAPER. NOW I'M GOING TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. WHAT DOES THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DO? THEY OVERLOOK IT. I'M SORRY I HAVEN'T POSTED ALL THIS STUFF AND I'M TRYING TO GET IT SO Y'ALL CAN SEE IT. NOW I'M GOING TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. I'M PAYING ALL THIS MONEY FOR THESE PERMITS AND YET YOU GO TO 5:00 AND GO DOWN AYERS. GO DOWN BALDWIN, STAPLES. HOW MANY OF THOSE TRUCKS DON'T HAVE THEM? I GOT AN E-MAIL FROM DANTE GONZALES, SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO FINE ME $50 A DAY FOR EVERY DAY I DON'T POST THIS. HOW MANY TRUCKS DOWN THAT STREET DON'T HAVE THEM? I WISH I WOULD HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE Y'ALL'S NEXT FEW MEETINGS BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE. THERE'S OVER 40 TRUCKS THAT DON'T HAVE THOSE PERMITS POSTED. WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE A STAND AND WORK PAST 5:00 AND SHUT THE TRAILERS DOWN? THEY'RE OPERATING ILLEGALLY WITH NO PROPANE PERMITS OR THEIR INSPECTION FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL, WHICH I HAVE DONE. THEY'RE WORKING WITH NO PERMITS OR HEALTH INSPECTIONS, YET THEY'RE ALLOWED TO KEEP OPERATING. I'M SORRY. I KNOW YOU KEEP TELLING THEM TO GET IN TOUCH WITH ME BUT I HAVE BEEN HERE OVER A MONTH AND NOT ONE PERSON HAS REACHED OUT. >> Mayor Guajardo: MR. ZANONI -- I KNOW WE SENT THIS OUT. I THINK YOUR TEAM IS WORKING ON IT? >> Zanoni: NO, THE FIRE CHIEF SENT OUT A MEMO TODAY AND THE PARKS DIRECTOR SENT OUT A MEMO TO THE COUNCIL. YES MA'AM. >> [OFF MIC] >> Zanoni: IT'S TOO LONG TO READ IT HERE, COUNCILWOMAN. IT'S TWO PAGES. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. CHRISTINA ENGLISH. >> CHRISTINA ENGLISH, DISTRICT 1. THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN SECURITY COMING INTO THIS BUILDING. WE RECOGNIZE THE ADDITIONAL [INDISCERNIBLE] AS A POOR ATTEMPT TO CHILL SPEECH. I NOTICED THE MAYOR PHYSICALLY LEFT THE DAIS WHEN SHE RECUSED HERSELF. I APPRECIATE THAT . I DO WONDER WHY SHE WASN'T TAKE THE SAME MEASURES WHEN DISCUSSING HER INVESTIGATION. SHE PLEADED WITH AND GAS LIT THE COUNCIL AND MADE EVERY POSSIBLE ATTEMPT TO INFLUENCE THAT DECISION. PARTS OF THE REST OF MY COMMENT ARE EXCERPTS FROM THE 2007 LEONARD V. ROBINSON DECISION, ONE OF MANY COURT DECISIONS THAT PERTAIN DIRECTLY TO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI'S PUBLIC COMMENT POLICY. LET'S HOPE WE DON'T VIOLATE ANY MORE RIGHTS TODAY. THE FIRST AMENDMENT REFLECTS A PROFOUND NATIONAL COMMITMENT TO THE PRINCIPLE THAT DEBATE ON PUBLIC ISSUES SHOULD BE UNINHIBITED, ROBUST, AND WIDE OPEN. AND THAT IT MAY WELL INCLUDE VEHEMENT, CAUSTIC, AND SOMETIMES UNPLEASANTLY SHARP ATTACKS ON GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC OFFICIALS. EVEN THOSE WHO ADVOCATE THE MOST NARROW INTERPRETATION OF THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH AGREE THAT IN A DEMOCRATIC FORUM LIKE A TOWNSHIP MEETING, THE STATE SHOULD ABSTAIN FROM REGULATING SPEECH. ANY PEACE OFFICER IN ATTENDANCE CAN REASONABLY BE EXPECTED TO RESTRAIN HERSELF FROM ARRESTING SPEAKERS BASED UPON WHAT THEY SAY WHILE ADVOCATING THEIR POLITICAL POSITIONS IN AN ORDERLY FASHION. SEE HOUSTON V. HILL, NOTING THAT A PROPERLY-TRAINED OFFICER MAY REASONABLY BE EXPECTED TO EXERCISE A HIGHER DEGREE OF RESTRAINT THAN THE AVERAGE CITIZEN. THEREFORE, BECAUSE LEONARD'S ARREST WAS NOT SUPPORTED BY PROBABLE CAUSE IT WAS ERROR FOR THE DISTRICT COURT TO GRANT ROBINSON QUALIFIED IMMUNITY. THIS IS A CASE WHERE A COMMUNITY MEMBER'S CONVICTION AND THE ARRESTING OFFICER'S QUALIFIED IMMUNITY WERE OVERTURNED. AFTER THE COMMUNITY MEMBER WAS ARRESTED FOR SAYING GODDAMN IN A PUBLIC TOWNSHIP MEETING. THIS CITY COUNCIL'S PUBLIC COMMENT POLICY IS JUST THAT. IT'S A POLICY. IT IS NOT THE LAW. IT CERTAINLY DOES NOT SUPERSEDE OUR CONSTITUTION AND SHOULD NOT BE HELD AS GROUNDS FOR ARREST. THAT'S ILLEGAL . I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS MAYOR AND COUNCIL MOVING AWAY FROM THEIR FASCIST TENDENCIES AND REVIEWING THEIR POLICIES AND ACTIONS UNDER THE BRIGHT LIGHT OF DEMOCRACY. ADDITIONALLY PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD BE HELD AT 5:30 ON MONDAY, NOON ON TUESDAY, AND AT EVERY ITEM. VIRTUAL SPEAKERS SHOULD BE GIVEN EQUAL ACCESS AT ALL OF THOSE TIMES. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. MARK MINSTER. >> MARK MINSTER, CORPUS CHRISTI. LAST TIME I WAS HERE Y'ALL WERE VOTING ON THE BUDGET ITEMS AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS. FEES FOR PARKS AND REC, WATER RATES, PROPERTY TAXES, OTHER THINGS I CAN'T REMEMBER TOO. BUT I FELT BAD FOR THE POSITION Y'ALL WERE PUT IN OF HAVING TO RAISE RATES OF CUT CITY STAFF OR CUT CITY SERVICES. AT THE END OF THE MEETING THERE WERE SOME OF Y'ALL SAYING, LIKE, MY VOTE NOW IS I'M UNSURE OF MY VOTE NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE RAISED THE FEES ON SO MANY THINGS. I WANTED TO TALK ON EACH AGENDA ITEM AND TO SAY THE SAME THING. THESE ARE FEES YOU'RE RAISING FOR REGULAR RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE. PROPERTY TAXES, I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IDAs BEFORE SEEING THE BREAKDOWN OF THE IDA REVENUE. I DID ACTUALLY GET A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST THAT ACTUALLY BROKE DOWN THE CITY'S IDA REVENUE FROM RECENT YEARS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK ME THE MOST, THERE'S BEEN PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT A SPECIFIC CRYPTO COMPANY AND THEIR SPECIFIC IDA. WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY WERE SAYING THEY WERE GOING TO BE CONTRIBUTING $10 MILLION A YEAR FROM THEIR IDAs. WHEN I GOT THIS BREAKDOWN OF THE CITY'S IDA REVENUE, EVEN THE BIGGEST COMPANIES LIKE VALERO AND OTHER COMPANIES LIKE THE HIGHEST FROM ONE COMPANY WE WERE GETTING A YEAR WAS 4 TO $5 MILLION. HOW IS THIS ONE COMPANY SAYING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO GET $10 MILLION AND THEN THEY ENDED UP ONLY PAYING AROUND $2,000? THAT MAKES ME QUESTION THESE IDA AGREEMENTS FOR EVERYONE ELSE. THESE ARE 15-YEAR AGREEMENTS NOW. AND I JUST WANT TO BRING THIS TO THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE'RE RAISING RATES FOR RESIDENTS, THEIR PROPERTY TAXES. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BRING THE CITY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF REVENUE THAT YOU COULD USE TO BENEFIT RESIDENTS. TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PEOPLE ON EVERHART. GOING ON TO THE TYPE B FUNDS. THOSE JOBS THAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN, YOU PUT IT ON THE SLIDE SHOW. THERE WERE 33,000 OR LESS JOBS. I DON'T SEE THAT AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T SEE A COUPLE MORE HOTELS BRINGING A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR BRINGING A SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT TO US. YEAH. I WOULD WANT THE CITY TO PURSUE SUSTAINABLE WATER SOLUTIONS THAT MAKE SENSE FOR THE CUSTOMER CLASS THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT. WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN IN THIS POSITION OF BEING STAGE 3 DROUGHT AND OUR LAKE LEVELS SO LOW. INDUSTRY SHOULD NOT BE DRIVING OUR DEMAND. IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE. THEY SHOULD GET WHATEVER IS LEFT OVER AND THE COUNCIL DECIDES WHAT THEY GET. ALSO TICKETMASTER DEFINITELY DON'T MAKE ANY DEALS WITH THEM. THEY'RE A RIDICULOUS MONOPOLY. AT THE END OF THE MEETING LAST WEEK, IT WAS FRUSTRATING. YOU HAD THE TWO-HOUR CONVERSATION ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION AND THE BEHAVIOR FROM COUNCIL, I THOUGHT THERE WAS LOUD AND BOISTEROUS BEHAVIOR AND SPEAKING OUT OF TURN AND HOW DO YOU EXPECT RESIDENTS -- RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO REFLECT THE BEHAVIOR THEY'RE SEEING FROM Y'ALL AND IT'S SO EMBARRASSING THE CONTRADICTIONS AND THE PEOPLE REPRESENTING OUR CITY. IF RESIDENTS DID THE SAME THING, YOU WOULD FACE MORE SIGNIFICANT CONSEQUENCES. I KNOW IF IT WAS ANTI-DESAL PEOPLE, Y'ALL WOULD HAVE SHUT IT DOWN. >> Mayor Guajardo: ELI McKAY. >> IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO FOLLOW MARK. I TALK KIND OF SLOW. SO HELLO. MY NAME IS ELI McKAY AND I LIVE IN BEAUTIFUL UPTOWN CORPUS CHRISTI. IT'S NICE TO LOOK YOU IN THE EYES WHEN I SAY THAT. IT'S NICE TO BE BACK IN CHAMBERS TODAY. I LIKE TO COME IN SO I CAN BRING POSITIVE ENERGY INTO THE ROOM. I WAS TRAVELING THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS AND SO I WAS FORCED TO WATCH COUNCIL VIRTUALLY, BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T STOP WATCHING Y'ALL. I CAN'T LOOK AWAY. I TRAVELED OVER 6,000 MILES ON THAT TRIP AND I WANT TO SHARE A LIST OF SOME THINGS THAT I DID NOT SEE WHILE TRAVELING THAT I SEE EVERY SINGLE DAY HERE. SO FIRST, HEAVY INDUSTRY BUTTING UP AGAINST NEIGHBORHOODS. I ONLY SAW HEAVY INDUSTRY TWICE IN ALL OF MY 6,000 MILES OF TRAVELING, ONCE I GOT OUT OF TEXAS, THAT IS. I ALSO DIDN'T SEE NEGLECTED CITY PARKS WITHOUT AMENITIES. I DID NOT SEE EXCESSIVE POLICE PRESENCE AT PUBLIC EVENTS. I SUPPOSE THEY WERE THERE BUT THEY WERE PROBABLY FOCUSING ON CRIME. I ALSO DID NOT SEE VERY MANY STREETS WITH POTHOLES AND I DID NOT SEE MASS QUANTITIES OF PEOPLE BUYING THEIR DRINKING WATER BECAUSE THEY TRUSTED THEIR TAP WATER. I ALSO DIDN'T SEE RESIDENTS WITH AN UNRELENTING LOVE FOR THEIR COMMUNITY. I DID NOT SEE RESIDENTS WHO WERE ACTIVE AND INVESTED IN THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. SO IT'S GREAT TO BE HOME. AND I TELL YOU THESE THINGS IN HOPE THAT YOU WILL REFLECT MORE OFTEN. REFLECT AND BE HONEST ABOUT YOURSELF ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO PERPETUATE THE NEGATIVE THINGS AND ALSO WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO APPRECIATE THE POSITIVE THINGS. I DON'T THINK A LOT OF CITIES HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY TO SHOW UP EVERY TUESDAY, WHETHER IT'S NOON OR 5:30 OR JUST STAY ALL DAY, LIKE SOME PEOPLE DO. I HAVE SPENT SEVERAL DECADES OF THIS LIFETIME LEADING TEAMS FOR CORPORATIONS THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED MENIAL JOBS TO MOST PEOPLE. I ALWAYS TRY TO INSTILL A SENSE OF PRIDE AND JOY IN THE WORK, WHICH HOPEFULLY TURNED THOSE MENIAL JOBS INTO SOMETHING MORE. AND SO I FEEL THAT YOU ARE THE ONES WHO SHOULD INSPIRE ALL OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES TO TAKE PRIDE IN AND ENJOY THEIR WORK. YOU SHOULD STAND UP TO THOSE WHO SEE THE CITY AS A BUSINESS AND WORK TOWARDS LIVING WAGES FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES. IF YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT, THEN NON-UNIFORMED EMPLOYEES SHOULD ORGANIZE FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING RIGHTS THE WAY THAT POLICE AND FIRE HAVE. THE PEOPLE WORKING ENTRY-LEVEL POSITIONS IN SOLID WASTE, PARKS AND REC, PUBLIC WORKS, CCW, AND MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE THE REAL MVPs OF OUR CITY. NO OFFENSE. IT'S NOT Y'ALL. IT'S THEM. AND SO IF YOU'RE SITTING ON THAT DAIS AND YOU'RE NOT MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO FIX THE PROBLEMS IN OUR CITY WHILE TAKING OWNERSHIP FOR YOUR OWN MISTAKES AND THE MISTAKES MADE BY THOSE WHO SERVED BEFORE YOU, THEN YOU CAN DO BETTER. SO LET'S SEE IT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MS. McKAY. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. PARDON? >> [OFF MIC] >> Zanoni: DID YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR NICK? >> Mayor Guajardo: WE DID. I'M SORRY. YES. WHERE IS HE? >> Zanoni: HE'S COMING. YES, WE DID. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: WHO HAD A QUESTION? >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS. >> Campos: THANK YOU. WELL, I GUESS THE QUESTION WAS: HOW MUCH WATER IS ENOUGH WATER FOR US? FOR OUR CITY? BECAUSE IT NEVER SEEMS, AGAIN, THAT IT WILL EVER BE ENOUGH. WE HAD, OF COURSE, OUR PUBLIC COMMENTER GIVE US A BREAKDOWN AS TO, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WE HAVE AND WHAT WE -- IT DOESN'T SAY HOW MUCH WE CAN AFFORD BUT HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH, IS I GUESS MY QUESTION. WHAT GOAL ARE WE TRYING TO REACH? WHAT AMOUNT OF WATER IS ENOUGH FOR OUR AREA? ARE WE GOING -- THAT'S THE QUESTION. >> LET ME THINK THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT, COUNCILWOMAN. I MEAN, HOW MUCH WATER IS ENOUGH FOR OUR AREA AND WE NEED TO DEFINE THE AREA. WE NEED TO DEFINE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. OBVIOUSLY -- AND WE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS TODAY. ONE FROM STWA. IF THEY DEVELOP THEIR OWN WATER SUPPLY, DO WE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION? ARE WE LOOKING AT JUST WHAT CCW'S PROVIDING? OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT ARE LOOKING INTO THEIR OWN SUPPLY RIGHT NOW SO IT MAKES THE QUESTION DIFFICULT TO ANSWER. I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN ANSWER RIGHT NOW. >> Campos: THAT IS A BASIC QUESTION. THAT IS A VERY BASIC QUESTION AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING IT. BECAUSE WHEN WE SAVE WATER, WE'RE CHARGED MORE FOR IT. SO IT'S LIKE DAMN IF YOU DO AND DAMN IF YOU DON'T. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION. SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY BECAUSE FOR ME, FOR MY PART, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD NEVER BE ENOUGH. SO THAT'S WHY I ASK IT. >> AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT COMPLETELY. I'M JUST -- I'M TRYING TO QUALIFY THIS BECAUSE A LOT GOES INTO IT. WE ARE -- WE'VE BEEN UNDER DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS FOR QUITE SOMETIME. SO IS HAVING ENOUGH WATER TO A POINT WHERE PEOPLE CAN WATER THEIR LAWNS WHENEVER THEY WANT, THEN WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. IS HAVING ENOUGH WATER JUST ENOUGH WATER TO NOT GO TO LEVEL 1 EMERGENCY? THAT'S ANOTHER SITUATION. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THAT ON THE WATER SUPPLY DASHBOARD. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS AND WHAT ONE PERSON MAY WANT, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE MAY WANT TO WATER THEIR LAWN EVERY SINGLE DAY. MAY NOT BE WHAT THE NEXT PERSON WANTS. SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO GIVE A HOLISTIC ANSWER WITH ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT INTANGIBLES. >> Campos: WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN NEGLECTING TO DO OR HAVE NEGLECTED TO DO IS TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE CONSERVATION WATER PLAN -- WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN, IN MY ESTIMATION, IN MY EYES. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIVING IN LIMITED RESOURCES AND SO THAT'S WHY. WE NEGLECTED TO DO THAT AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACKWARDS AND SAY, OKAY. THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS COME UP THROUGHOUT THE YEARS IS ABOUT THE DROUGHT EXEMPTION FEE. I DO ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE MORE YOU USE THE MORE YOU SHOULD PAY. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY TO CONTROL OUR RATES AND OUR WATER, YOU KNOW, RESERVOIRS. SO, AGAIN, I CHALLENGE OUR WATER DEPARTMENT TO COME UP WITH AN ACTUAL NUMBER THAT WOULD SUFFICE. LIKE YOU SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL EVER GO BACK. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE REAL THING IS TO WATERING LIKE WE USED TO. WE'RE LIVING IN LIMITED RESOURCES WITH THE WATER. BECAUSE EVEN IF WE GO WITH ALL THESE OTHER PROJECTS, IT'S GOING TO COST ALL OF US. ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO STATE. >> YEAH. I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS. AND JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS. WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN. THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE GOT WITH STAFF TO GET AN UPDATE AND WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON THAT. THE OTHER ITEM I WANT TO BRING -- AND YOU'RE RIGHT. WATER RATES ARE DISTRIBUTED ACROSS OUR RATEPAYERS. AND YOU KNOW WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD FOR RATE EQUITY AND WE'VE COME A LONG WAY. WE'RE VERY PROUD THAT THE TEAM AND I AND OUR RATE MODELER ARE VERY PROUD OF THAT. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WATER COSTS -- THERE'S FIXED COSTS THAT WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO COVER. AND DEPENDING UPON THE NUMBER OF USERS, YOU KNOW, IT'S SPLIT. THERE'S THAT EQUITY COMPONENT. AND YOU SAID IT YOURSELF. IT MUST HAVE BEEN A COUNCIL MEETING A MONTH OR SO AGO. BUT YOU'VE GOT THOSE FIXED COSTS YOU'VE STILL GOT TO COVER. YOU'VE STILL GOT TO RUN THE WATER PLANT. YOU STILL NEED CHEMICALS. WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE OUR WATER IS SAFE TO DRINK. THOSE COSTS HAVE TO BE COVERED. AND THE LESS WATER YOU SELL INCREMENTALLY, THE RATES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COVER THAT. >> Campos: AND THE OTHER IS I DID DIRECT OUR CITY MANAGER TO LOOK INTO THE SOLAR FLOATING PANELS. THAT WAS ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT I ADVOCATED FOR WHEN WE HAD THAT FIRST WATER WORKSHOP. AND I'M HOPING THAT OUR CITY MANAGER WILL DIRECT YOU TO LOOK INTO THAT VISIBILITY STUDY. >> YEAH. AND I DID HEAR THAT. YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IT DOES GET COMPLICATED BECAUSE WE OWN THE WATER IN LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI. WE OWN THE DAM. WE OWN THE PROPERTY THE DAM IS ON. WE DON'T OWN THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES. WE DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY UNDER THE DAM SO THERE IS COORDINATION WITH THE STATE PARKS AND WILDLIFE. THERE'S COORDINATION WITH THE GLO, THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, AND THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS. >> Campos: WELL, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PROJECTS, YES, YOU WILL RUN INTO OBSTACLES. JUST LIKE WE ARE NOW WITH EVANGELINE AND ALL THE OTHER ONES. WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH SOME OBSTACLES. I JUST THINK THAT IF WE, YOU KNOW, DECIDE THAT THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO, WE GO AFTER IT AND WE CAN ACHIEVE IT IF WE ARE MINDFUL. IF WE ARE DIRECTED TO DO IT. IF WE HAVE THE WILL TO DO IT. BUT IF THERE'S NO WILL AND THERE'S NO DIRECTION TO DO IT, THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO GET DONE. I'M HOPING THAT YOU WILL HAVE THE WILL AND THE DIRECTION TO DO IT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN ROY. >> Roy: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I WANTED TO KIND OF -- DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WE HAD THE GRAPH THAT WAS GIVEN, WHICH REMINDED ME OF MY QUESTION EARLIER. SO WITH THE MARY RHODES PIPELINE RIGHT NOW -- I KNOW THE LAST TIME YOU GUYS SPOKE YOU WERE LOOKING AT TAKING A PUMP FROM THE WOODSBORO STATION, I THINK. BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO YIELD MORE OUT OF THE MARY RHODES PIPELINE THEN YOU'VE GOT TO CONTINUE TO CHANGE THE PUMP CONFIGURATION RIGHT? >> CURRENTLY WE'RE PUMPING AT SCHEDULE 4, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 72 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. THE WOODSBORO AND BLOOMINGTON PUMP STATIONS, WE HAVE ORDERED SPARE PUMPING EQUIPMENT TO HAVE PERMANENTLY INSTALLED IN CASE A PUMP GOES DOWN WE CAN STILL MAINTAIN THE 72 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. >> Roy: I THOUGHT THERE WAS ADDITIONAL YIELD YOU WERE TRYING TO GET. >> SO CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WATER SUPPLY TO PUMP ADDITIONAL YIELD. NOW, IF SOMETHING LIKE EVANGELINE CAME ONLINE, WE WOULD HAVE ADDITIONAL WATER TO PUMP. SO, COUNCILMAN, AT THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR WE WILL HAVE USED ALL OF OUR LAKE TEXANA CONTRACTUAL WATER. WE WILL HAVE INCREASED -- USED ALMOST ALL OF OUR ALLOCATION FROM THE COLORADO RIVER. AND WE PUMP MORE FROM THE COLORADO RIVER THIS YEAR THAN EVER. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE ALSO USED THAT 2500-ACRE FEET FROM FORMOSA. RUNNING AT SCHEDULE 4, WE HAVE TAKEN ALL THAT. WHEN YOU BRING ON ADDITIONAL SUPPLY LIKE EVANGELINE, THEN YOU HAVE MORE WATER TO PUMP, RIGHT? >> Roy: OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT. THE OTHER THING IS I KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS -- IT'S KIND OF FALLEN OFF THE RADAR. AND A CONSTITUENT STOPPED ME THE OTHER DAY AND ASKED ME AND I COULDN'T TELL HIM THE ANSWER. THEY SAID WHATEVER HAPPENED TO BARNEY DAVIS? IS THAT JUST GONE BY THE WAYSIDE? I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING OF THAT IN A LONG TIME. >> SURE. I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE ON BARNEY DAVIS. YEAH. I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE. I KNOW IT WAS LOOKED AT PREVIOUSLY BUT TONIGHT I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE FOR YOU. >> Roy: ALL RIGHT. I JUST WONDERED IF YOU HAD ANY NEWS ON THAT. I COULDN'T TELL HIM. I JUST SAID I REMEMBER THAT NAME. THANK YOU. >> SURE. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN SCOTT. >> Scott: YEP. YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO. PETER, THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM. YOU GUYS DO GREAT WORK. WE HAD SOME FEISTY CONVERSATIONS TODAY AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. I JUST WANT TO END WITH THAT. >> Mayor Guajardo: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU, NICK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, ESTEBAN. THANK YOU. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. [MEETING ADJOURNED]