gUDES COME TO ORDER FOR WORK SHOP JUNE 24, 2021. COUNCILMAN CITRO, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOR THIS ONE. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR. AND AN INVOCATION AS WELL. IMAN IN SU RA ADEL. JALEE. 'S MUSLIM LEADER IN TAMPA. A HUSBAND FOR 41 GREAT YEARS AND A FATHER OF FIVE WONDERFUL CHILDREN. HE PROVIDES LEADERSHIP CLASSES AND OTHER SERVICES AT THE PMC WHICH IS THE MUSLIM CONNECTION. PLEASE WELCOME IMAN ISHARA ADEL JALEE. IMMAN, LEAD UIN T INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THE CITY CLERK INFORMS ME THAT THE IMAN IS NOT ONLINE PRESENT. >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY. MAY WE START WITH THE PLEDGE THEN. MOMENT OF SILENCE, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. [MOMENT OF SILENCE] [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIAE] >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MR. CHAIR -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR. >>JOSEPH CITRO: SAVING TIME, I WILL RUN DOWNSTAIRS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL WHILE YOU ARE HERE. >>BILL CARLSON: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE. >>LUIS VIERA: HERE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE. >>CLERK: OFF PHYSICAL QUORU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. THE WORKSHOP IS WITH A LIVE PRESENT QUORUM INSIDE CITY CHAMBERS DURING THE CONTINUED COVID-19 STATE OF EMERGENCY. IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY BY VIDEO TELECONFERENCING AS COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR CMT. THE WORKSHOP IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURES0-225 AND AMENDED BY 2020-490 AND 2021-241. THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH, LISTEN AND VIEW THIS MEETING ON SPECTRUM 640, FRONTIER CHANNEL 15, AND ON THE WEB AT WWW.TAMP WWW.TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM ONE WORD. THE PUBLIC HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEND IN WRITTEN COMMENTS BY INTERNET OR BY E-MAIL OR BY U.S. MAIL. THEY ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TC COMMENT THROUGH THE USE OF CMT. AND THIS IS BY REREGISTERING AND ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE USING THE CMT THAT IS AVAILABLE AT OLD CITY HALL ON THE SECOND FLOOR. THOSE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO IT ARE INVITED TO ATTEND THE SECOND FLOOR OF OLD CITY HALL AND PLEASE NOTE, THE USE OF MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING INSIDE THE BUILDING ARE ENCOURAGED. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY. GO TO THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, MR. SHELBY. >>MART SHEY: IF YOU WISH, MR. CHAIRMAN. TWO ITEMS THAT ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE. ITEMS NUMBER TWO AND ITEMS THREE, BOTH TO AUGUST 26 OF 2021. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVING TO CONTINUE, ITEMS 2 AND 3. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVED IT AND SECOND. MOTION CARRIES. >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 11 THE REQUEST OF COUNCILMAN VIERA MOVED UP FROM ITEM 11 TO BE THE SECOND ITEM AFTER CEREMONIAL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION MOVED BY MR. MANISCALCO SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA. MOTION CARRIES. >>MARTIN SHELBY: AFTER THE CEREMONIAL. I ASKED MISS ZELMAN TO JOIN US VERY BRIEFLY TO TALK OF THE STATE OF EMERGENCY AND GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER SET TO END ON FRIDAY. IT TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND APPRECIATE THAT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL GEL THAT AFTER COMMENDATION OF THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH. >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW ABOUT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE GET TO THE REGULAR -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT. AFR PUBLIC COMMENT.EM 11 DO IT >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. BEFORE WE GET STARTED RELATIVE TO THE CRB SIGNING OF THE ORDINANCE WITH MYSELF AND THE MAYOR AND THE CRB. PLEASE GOVERN YOURSELVES ACCORDINGLY IF YOU CAN ATTEND. AS UNIFIED AS THIS BODY HAS BEEN TO CONTINUE TO STRIVE TO HAVE UNITY AMONG THIS BOARD AND ALSO WITH THE MAYOR'S OICE. SO THANK YOU. >>BILL CARLSON: DO WE KNOW -- MAYBE QUESTION LATER, BUT THE MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT SHE WILL SIGN, IS IT THE SAME. NOTHING CHANGED? >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY CHANGES. >>BILL CARLSON: REPLACES -- WE WERE TOLD LAST WEEK IT REPLACES THE OLD VERSION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S CORRECT, IS MY UNDERSTANDING. >>BILL CARLSON: THE MAYOR WILL DO HER PART TO REPLACE THE OLD EXECUTIVE ORDER WHICH H A LOT OF PROBLEMS. AND THE COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY AND THE PUBLIC'S. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT I READ AND I DID NOT SIGN THE ORDER LAST WEEK. I WAS WAITING FOR THE MAYOR BECAUSE I WANT US TO DO IT JOINTLY TO SHOW THE COHESIVENESS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND THIS BODY SO I DID NOT SIGN THE ORDER LAST WEEK ON FRIDAY. SO AT THIS POINT POINT, EVERYTHING THAT WE ASKED FOR AND VOTED ON. IF YOU CAN ATTEND, 1:30, WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THE AGENDA HAS BEEN MOVED. WE WILL GO TO CEREMONIALS, PRESENTATION. POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH. MR. CITRO, YOU ARE DOWNSTAIRS? THERE HE IS. >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBERS, I THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. AS ALWAYS, I ALWAYS START OFF THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH BY SAYING THAT IF MORE PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THESE OFFICERS GO THROUGH EACH AND EVERY DAY IN THEIR LINE OF WORK, THEY WILL GO TO THE CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY FOR THE CITY.TAMPA. AND AS SOON AS IT STARTS BACK UP, I WILL LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT IT HAS STARTED AGAIN. TODAY, WE HAVE THE PLEASURE OF PRESENTING A ACCOMMODATION FOR OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR DR. JAMES M. DEMATO. GOOD ITALIAN OFFICER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH IN 2021. YOU SEE HIS LOVELY FAMILY BEHIND ME. HIS WIFE IS THE -- IS THE HERO OF THE FAMILY. EVERY WIFE, EVERY SPOUSE, EVERY MOTHER AND FATHER OF OFFICERS WATCH THE OFFICER GO OFF TO WORK AND PRAY EVERY DAY IT THEY COME HOME. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING THE TRUE HERO OF THE FAMILY. CHIEF, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME UP AND EXPLAIN THE CONDITION WHERE WHY THIS OFFICER IS OFFICER OF THE MONTH? >> MORNING, COUNCIL. REUBEN DELGADO THE ASSISTANT CHIEF. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND PRESENT OFFICER DAMATO AS THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH AND THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS HERE TO SUPPORT HIMS WELL. THE OFFICER HAS BEEN HERE SEVEN YEARS. ALMOST SEVEN YEARS AND CURRENTLY WORKING IN DISTRICT 3. SO HE QUICKLY IDENTIFIED AN AREA IN DISTRICT 3 WE WERE HAVING NARCOTICS ACTIVITY. SOME GUN COMPLAINTS, GUN CRIMES GOING ON AT A FOOD STORE ON 40th STREET. BECAME KNOWN FOR NARCOTICS SALES. GUN VIOLENCE AND A COUPLE OF SHOOTINGS IN THE AREA OF THE FOOD STORE. SO BASICALLY HE RECOGNIZED KNOWN VIOLENT OFFENDERS IN THE AREA. RECOGNIZED A NEED TO COMBAT VIOLENT CRIMES AND CREATED AN OPERATION CALLED TAKE IT BACK. AS A JOINT PLAN THAT INCLUDED NOT ONLY HIS SQUAD BUT THE STREET ANTI-CRIME SQUADS, THE VIOLENT CRIME SQUADS, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP AND THE COMMUNITY-ORIENTED POLICING SQUADS. HE IDENTIFIED THE LOCATION. HE ALERTED OFFICERS WHICH INDIVIDUALS WERE TRESPASSED FROM THOSE LOCATIONS AND PROVIDED INSIGHT WHICH CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR HE WAS WITNESSING DURING SURVEILLANCE TIME. AND HIS PATROL TIME INCLUDE WHAT CARSERE POTENTIALLY INVOLVED IN TELLING NARCOTICS IN AND AROUND THE STORE AND WHICH SUSPECTS WERE KNOWN TO CARRY FIREARMS OF DISCARDED FIREARMS IN THE AREA. HE ALSO USED OUR STREET SMART SOFTWARE PROGRAM A PROGRAM WE USE TO COMMUNICATE AMONG SQUADS TO TRACK THE PROGRESS OF THE PLAN THROUGH THIS DISCUSSION BOARD. HE WAS ABLE TO IDENTIFY 13 SUSPECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED WITH CRIMES IN THAT AREA. BOTH THE VIOLENT CRIME SQUADS REMAIN IN CONSTANT CONTACT REMAINING THE LEADS THEY WERE DOING THAT LED TO THE ARRESTS AND SEIZURES OF GUNS AND FIREARMS. DUE TO HIS EFFORTS IN THE OPERATION TAKE IT BACK, EIGHT FIREARMS WERE SEIZED, TWO I WHICH WERE REPORTED STOLEN AND THREE OFFENDERS ARRESTED FOR THOSE CRIMES. NARCOTIC SEIZURES, FOUR HAD ACTIVE WARRANTS AND ONE WAS CHARGED WITH FLEEING TO ELUDE. HIS RECOGNITION OF HIS LEADERSHIP AND THE VIOLENT CRIME FIGHTING IN DISTRICT 3, ADMINISTER HAS BEEN SELECTED AS TAMPA POLICE OFFICER'S OFFICER OF THE MONTH. [APPLAUSE] >> OFFICER DATOMA, I ALWAYS KAY WE HAVE OFFICERS -- EVERY OFFICER SHOULD BE GETTING IN OFFICER OF THE MONTH. YOU WERE CHOSEN BY YOUR PEERS AND BY YOUR FELLOW OFFICERS FOR THIS. BECAUSE OF YOUR DEDICATION FOR SERVICE, COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE AND GOING ABOVE AND XWROND THE DUTY -- THE CALL -- BEYOND THE DUTY, THE CALL OF DUTY. CHOSEN AS A MARK OF DISTINCTION OF OFFICER OF THE MONTH BY CITY COUNCIL. YOUR PEERS, SUPERIORS WELCOME YOU FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING WORK ETHIC AND DEDICATION OF KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. WE COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR INITIATIVE AND LEADERSHIP IN OPERATION TAKE BACK AND OTHER EFFORTS THAT HAVE MADE A SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT IN REDUCING VIOLENT CRIME IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OFFICER, IT IS THE HONOR OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO PRESENT OFFICER JAMES DAMATA WITH THIS COMMENDATION THE 24th DAY OF JUNE, 2021. OFFICER, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS YOURS. COUNCILMEMBER, WE ARE GOING TO GO NOW TO THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT COME AND PRESENT THEIR APPRECIATION TO THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH, BUT WE WILL FIRST START OFF WITH -- WITH THE POLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION. >> DARLA PORTMAN, PRESIDENT OF THEOLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION. JIMMY OWENS, THE VICE PRES PRESIDENT. GOOD MORNING. WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU JAMES. YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB, THE PBA PROUD OF YOU AND THE UNION IS PROUD OF YOU. WE LOVE OFFICERS THAT GO OUT THERE AND WORK HARD AND REPRESENT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE MANNER THAT DO YOU IN THE COMMUNITY. SO CONGRATULATIONS. AND THIS IS FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND I WILL PUT IT OVER THERE FOR YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. OFFICER, CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL-DONE, MIKE McARTHUR WITH STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE. ON BEHALF OF TODD'S STEDD AND STEP'S TOWING, A 50 BASS PRO GIFT CARD AND A NIGHT IN OUR COMPANY LIMOUSINE. PUT THE CHALLENGE OUT THERE AGAIN AND I HAVEN'T DONE IT IN A WHILE TO SOMEONE PULL UP TO BASS PRO TO TAKE A PICTURE IN THE LIMO. I THINK THAT BOO BE THE COOLEST THING EVER OPINION THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING DO YOU FOR OUR COMMUNITY. JOB WELL-DONE. ENJOY TIME OFF. >> TNK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, PETE BREVY, BUSCH GARDENS. GOOD TO BE BACK AND I ALWAYS SAY AN HONOR TO REPRESENT BUSCH GARDENS AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO HONOR THE MEN AND WOMEN OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EVERY MONTH. OBVIOUSLY JIMMY -- I HAVE KNOWN JIMMY FOR A WHILE AND A FREQUENT FLIER AT BUSCH GARDENS AND I -- I ALWAYS SAY WE WILL GIVE TICKETS TO PEOPLE WHO ALWAYS COME TO BUSCH GARDENS ANYWAY, JIMMY, ON BEHALF OF BUSCH GARDENS AND PARK PRESIDENT, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU TO DO OUR COMMUNITY AS HIGHLIGHTED BY CHIEF DELGADO AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO ON A DAILY BASIS. NOT ONLY A GREAT POLICE OFFICER, BUT A BETTER HUMAN BEING. THANK YOU, JIMMY. >> LEAH BENNING WITH TAMPA THEATRE. OFFICER ON BEHALF OF TPA THEATRE. I AM HONORED TO GIVE YOU A GIFT OF A MEMBERSHIP TO THE THEATRE THAT INCLUDES FREE TICKETS FOR MOVIES, FREE DISCOUNT ON P POPCORN AND CADDY FOR THE GIRLS AND APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU DO AND YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHERE DID IT GO? IT WAS UP HERE. COUNCILMAN, THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT WISH THEY COULD HAVE BEEN HERE TO TODAY. FROM ZOO TAMPA, THE CASPER CORPORATION AND THE STRAZ CENTER. BUT I AM GOING TO HAVE MY GUEST SPEAKER MR. STEVE MICHELINI PRESENT FOR THEM. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. I AM VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE AND TO RECOGNIZE THIS FINE OFFICER. I THINK THE GIRLS NEED TO COME UP HERE SO THEY GET ON THE CAMERA. THOSE BLUE DRESSES ARE OUTSTANDING. I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TWO OF THEM GOT BLUE DRESSES AN ONE OF THEM IN DIDN'T, BUT THEY OUGHT TO COME UP HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS A SUPPORT GROUP THAT IS STANDING BEHIND THIS OFFICER EVERY DAY AND EVERY EVENING WHEN THEY ARE OUT ON PATROL. SO WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THEM AS WELL. WE ARE -- ON BEHALF THE STRAZ CENTER ARE GOING TO PROVIDE A GUEST PAST TO ENJOY FROZEN WHICH IS BROADWAY HIT. THE STRAZ SAYS IF YOU NEED MORE TICKETS WILL GIVE THEM TO YOU FOR THE KIDS. ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA, THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDEITH U A GIFT CERTIFICATE SO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY CAN ENJOY ZOO. AND ON BEHALF OF McDONALD'S CORPORATION CASPER'S THEY WILL PROVIDE WITH YOU GIFT CERTIFICATES SO YOU CAN ENJOY YOURSELF THERE. I HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER ISSUES -- PRESENTATIONS FOR THE OFFICERS INCLUDING THE METROPOLITAN YMCA, WHO IS PROVIDING A GUEST PASS FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. THE CHICO RESTAURANT GROUP PROVIDING YOU WITH YOUR CHOICE BREAKFAST, LUNCH OR DINNER AT THEIR ESTABLISHMENTS ON BEHALF THE PRESTIGE PORTRAITS KNOWN AS BR NALLEN STUDIO THEY WILL HAVE THEIR PORTRAITS AND GIRLS HAVE TO WEAR THE BLUE DRESSES. THE YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO YOUR CHOICE OF LUNCH AND DINNER. AGAIN, I AM FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA IN PARTICULAR, AND I KNOW WHAT -- WHAT A CHALLENGE IT IS TO WORK OUT THERE. SO WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK AND WHAT YOU HAVE DONE OUT THERE TO HELP STRAIGHTEN THINGS OUT. THANK YOU, AGAIN. >> THANK YOU. >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, VERY MUCH, STEVE. OFFICER, BEFORE YOU INTRODUCE YOUR LOVELY FAMILY, COU COUNCILMEMBERS, ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY? >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIRMAN. NO, JUST OFFICER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. I AM GLAD THAT YOUR WONDERFUL, BEAUTIFUL FAMILY IS THERE. YOU LOOK LIKE YOU ARE A VERY BLESSED PERSON IN YOUR LIFE AND YOUR SMILE REFLECTS THAT AND YOUR WIFE'S SMILE REFLECTS THAT AND YOU HAVE JUST THREE BEAUTIFUL DOLLARS AND YOU ARE VERY, VERY BLESSED. WE ARE ALSO BLESSED TO HAVE YOU, SIR, PROTECTING US. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF -- I WAS YESTERDAY EVENING AT A RETIREMENT PARTY FOR CORPORAL JEAN HAYNES, AND TALKING TO A LOT OF POLICE OFFICERS THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT OF -- OF -- OF DISMAL, I GUESS, FULL, FEELINGS AMONG MANY, MANY POLICE OFFICERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS OVER THE LAST YEAR. YOU ALL HAD A TREMENDOUS BURDEN OVER THE LAST YEAR, BUT YOUR FAMILY HAD A TREMENDOUS BURDEN OVER T LASYEAR AND JUST KNOW THAT I GREATLY APPRECIATE TO THE BEST THAT I CAN WHAT YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH, WHAT YOUR FAMILY HAS GONE THROUGH, AND THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES AND THAT THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTRY AND COMMUNITY DOES. THAT MEANS EVERYBODY. LIKE I ALWAYS SAY CUBS FANS, CARDINAL FANS, LEFT HAND, RIGHT HANDS REPUBLICANS DEMOCRATS INDEPENDENTS, PEOPLE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL DO AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL DO. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU. WONDERFUL FAMILY, GOD BLESS Y YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANIALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, FOR YOUR SERVICE AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID IT ALL. WE APPRECIATE YOUR SACRIFICE EACH AND EVERY DAY WHEN YOU GO OUT IN UNIFORM AND YOUR SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, SIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CLERK, RECOGNIZE THAT MR. DINGFELDER HAS ARRIVED. SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD PLEASE. >>CLERK: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER ARRIVED AT 9:21 A.M. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, ANYTHING TO ADD? >>BILL CARLSON: THANKS, AS MY COLLEAGUES JUST SAID, FOR YOUR DECORATION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE SO MUCH AND YOUR BEAUTIFUL FAMILY. CONGRATULATIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OFFICER, WE ARE GRATEFUL. WE ARE ALL GRATEFUL WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR JOB ON A DAILY BASIS AND I LOOK AT YOUR FAMILY AND HAIR. I REMEMBER I HAD THAT MUCH AND -- AND MY GIRLS ABOUT THAT AGE. ENJOY IT BECAUSE TIME FLIES AND HA FLI. LOOK AT ME. I AM NOT DONE. YOU SHOULD BE A ROLE MODEL. BUT YOU ARE A ROLE MODEL IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE OF THE WORK YOU DO. PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE A LITTLE SAFE HER. AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE, WORK AND ABILITY TO HAVE THE CONTINUATION OF A BEAUTIFUL FAMILY THAT YOU HAVE. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. >> THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. OFFICER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. SEVEN YEARS. JUST NOW GETTING THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. YOU ARE IN WHAT I CALL THE WORKG MAN'S DISTRICT. I UNDERSTAND THE WORK YOU ARE DOING OVER THERE AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR BEAUTIFUL FAMILY AND CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK FOR THE CITIZENS OF. >>JOSEPH CITRO: OFFICER, STAY RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE. YOUR CHANCE TO INTRODUCE YOUR LOVELY FAMILY AND HAVE ANY WORDS THAT YOU WANT. >> THIS IS MY WIFE, NICOLE. DAUGHTER KYA, DAUGHTER MADISON, AND LITTLE ONE IS ABIGAIL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE HER DOWN THERE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE GOT HER. >> I JUST WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCIL AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE RECOGNITION. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE PBA FOR BEING HERE AND THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA FOR THE GIFTS REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND THE SQUAD AND THE SQUAD OF ANOTHER CYCLE. IF NOT FOR THEM, THIS WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE CONTINUED ITEMS NUMBER 2 AND 3 ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING. WE ARE MOVING TO ITEM NUMBER 11 TO THE NUMBER TWO SPOT. MR. VIERA, WHENEVER YOU ARE READY SIR. . >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, WHENEVER YOU ARE READY, SIR. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR. MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE MY FRIEND AND OUR FRIEND MR. JAMES KEENE, WHO IS THE DEVELOPMENT DIVISION DIRECTOR FOR METRO INCLUSIVE HEALTH. I INVITED MR. KEENE AS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF METRO HEALTH HERE IN THE TAMPA AREA BECAUSE OF A NUMBER OF REASONS. NUMBER ONE, JUNIS OIOUS LBGTQ+ PRIDE MONTH. AND THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT DOES SUCH TREMENDOUS WORK IN THE LBGTQ+ COMMUNITY. ALSO JUST GIVEN SOME OF THE RECENT CIVIC ISSUES WE HAVE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA PARTICULARLY WITH TRANSGENDER YOUTH, SOMETHING SO PIVOTAL TO THE MISSION OF OUR FRIENDS AT METRO INCLUSIVE HEALTH. I WANT JAMES TO COME AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO AND I WILL ACTUALLY BE MAKING A MOTION AT THE END IN WAYS OF WHICH THE CITY OF TAMPA CAN BETTER PARTNER WITH THE WONDERFUL MISSION OF METRO INCLUSIVE ALTH. SO METRO INCLUSIVE HEALTH BEGAN IN 1993, AND SINCE THIS TIME, IT HAS PROVIDED ESSENTIAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS SERVICES TO THE TAMPA BAY REGARDLESS OF RACE GENDER SEXUAL ORIENTATION, SEXUAL IDENTITY, ETC. ETC. , WITH THE LBGTQ+ POPULATION WHEN IT COMES TO HEALTH CARE. FROM HIV SERVICES, EMOTIONAL HEALTH AND COUNSELING AND A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ISSUES. AS SOME OF YOU ALL KNOW, THEY RECENTLY OUTGREW THEIR YBOR CITY LOCATION WHICH SPEAKS TO THE REAL NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY ON THIS ISSUE. I WAS READING ON THE HISTORY OF THS WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION AND IT APPEARS THEY BEGAN MEETING AT THE LOCAL METROPOLITAN COMMUNITY CHURCH. I BELIEVE IT WAS IN PINELLAS COUNTY IF I AM CORRECT, AND IT MADE ME THINK OF SOMETHING SO PIVOTAL TO THEIR MISSION OF THOSE WHO WENT TO SUNDAY SCHOOL OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, THE OLD PARABLE IN THE NEW TESTMENT ON THE GOOD SHEPHERD SPEND DAY AND NIGHT -- HE WOULD HAVE 100 SHEEP AND LOST ONE SHEEP AND SPENT DAY AND NIGHT LOOKING FOR THAT ONE SHEEP OUT OF 100 SHEEP. THAT SPEAKS TO THE LEVEL OF COMPASSION THAT LOOKS TO THE LEAST OF THESE. AND FOR OUR LBGTQ+ YOUTH IN THE TAMPA AREA, WE NEED A GOOD SHEPHERD TO CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR THOSE SOULS AND HELP THEM OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. I INTRODUCE MR. KEENE. I LEAVE IT TO YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN AND COUNCIL CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION. I IS MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS MORNING AND SHARE WITH YOU AN UPDATE ON THE ORGANIZATION. IN FRONT OF YOU THIS MORNING WE PLACED OUR 2020 ANNUAL REPORT, THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC, WHICH WAS CHALLENGING OBVIOUSLY FOR EVERYBODY. AS A PUBLIC HEALTH ORGAN ORGANIZATION, FIRST AND FOREMOST IS PUBLIC HEALTH. SO THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC IN 2020, WE WERE ABLE TO ENROLL 2400 NEW PATIENTS INTO SERVICES AT METRO. AND WITHIN THAT 2400, WHEN YOU DIG DOWN, IT IS ALMOST 900 INDIVIDUALS NEW TO US RECEIVING BEHAVIORAL HEALTH COUNSELING SERVICES. AND ANOTHER 340 RECEIVING PSYCHIRIC CARE THAT THEY WEREN'T PREVIOUSLY RECEIVING. WE HAD 820 PRIMARY CARE PATIENTS. YOU KNOW, THE GROWTH HAS REALLY BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARY THING TO WATCH. I HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE WITH THE ORGANIZATION FOR SEVEN YEARS. AND, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY -- KNOWING THAT WE REACHED THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE DO AND PROVIDING OVER 100 SERVICES AND PROGRAMS TO PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF THEIR ABILITY TO PAY. WHETHER THEY HAVE INSURANCE OR DON'T HAVE INSURANCE, WE DON'T TURN FOLKS AWAY. ONE OF T WS WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT -- AND IT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE. WE CALL IT A CO-PAY IT FORWARD PROGRAM. WE ACCEPT MANY SERVICES AT HEALTH CENTERS. WHEN YOU MAKE A CO-PAYMENT AT OUR FACILITIES THAT TRANSLATES INTO FREE MEDICAL SERVICES FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE INSURANCE OR DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INSURANCE. IN 2020, THOSE CO-PAYMENTS RECEIVED THROUGH OUR FACILITIES TRANSLATED TO $485,000 IN FREE MEDICAL SERVICES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO EXTEND TO MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITIES. ALTHOUGH WE ARE LBGTQ+ FOCUSED, WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT EXCLUSIVE OF ANYBODY. IT IS IN OUR NAME, METRO INCLUSIVE HEALTH. WE ARE HERE FOR EVERYBODY. ONE OF THE IMPORTANT FACTS THAT I GOT TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL TODAY AS WE LOOK FORWARD IN WHAT 2021 IS PRESENTING US. NOT ONLY IS IT THE OPPORTUNITY OF OUR EXPANDED FOOTPRINT AT THE GERMAN AMERICAN CLUB THAT WILL MORE THAN DOUBLE OUR CAPACITY. AS COUNCILMAN VIERA SPOKE OF, OUR CURRENT FACILITY ON 7th AVENUE IS JUST OVER 13,000 SQUARE FEET. WE HAVE OUTGROWN THAT AS AN UNDER STATEMENT. OUR NEW FACILITY WILL BE OVER 30,000 SQUARE FEET, STATE-OF-THE-ART MEDICAL AND COMMUNITY CENTER OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY REGARDLESS OF STATUS. REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU IDENTIFY, WHO YOU LOVE. INSURANCE OR NOT. WE ARE THE PLACE FOR EVERYBODY. HIV CONTINUES TO BE ON THE RISE. WE STARTED AS AN ORGANIZATION, AS A HIV SERVICE ORGANIZATION AND HERE WE ARE 30 YEARS LATER AS AN ORGANIZATION STILL STRUGGLING WITH THE STIGMA AND LACK OF EDUCATION AROUND HIV. YOU KNOW FLORIDA A STANDARDLY CONTINUES TO RISE -- LEAD IN NEW HIV INFECTIONS. HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF 48 MOST BURDENED COUNTIES IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WITH HIV INFECTIONS, PEOPLE LIVING WITH HIV. THAT IS A FACT BY THE CDC. THE CDC HAS ROLLED OUT SOME NEW GRANT MONEY TO END THE EPI EPIDEMIC. IT IS A MULTIYEAR GRANT. WE ARE THRILLED TO BE RECEIVING SOME MONEY TO CONTINUE TARGETED MESSAGING TO MOST AT-RISK HIV, WE ARE SEEING IT IS REALLY NOT A GROUP EXCLUSIVE -- NOT A LBGTQ+ EXCLUSIVE DISEASE. A -- NOT A VIRUS THAT WE CAN ATTRACT. I URGE EVERYBODY TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HI V, BE TESTED AND KNOW YOUR STATUS. I WILL BE REMISS IF I DID NOT SPEAK OF OUR NEW FACILITY BEING LOCATED WHERE IT IS. 3365 IS THE ZIP CODE. PRIMARILY COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. AND UNDERSERVED INDIVIDUALS WI NOT THAT GREAT ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE. WE ARE SO THRILLED TO HAVE THAT BRICK AND MORTAR LOCATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND RECEIVE THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED. I SPOKE TO OVER 100 SERVICES AND PROGRAMS. WHAT WE DO KNOW THAT 90% OF OUR PATIENTS RECEIVE MORE THAN ONE SERVICE. SO THAT GOAL OF WRAP-AROUND CARE AND ALL-INCLUSIVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED IN ONE PLACE. WE ARE STRIVING AND WE ARE REALLY CLOSE TO ACHIEVING THAT. SO IN CLOSING, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU ALL THAT THESE THINGS ARE ALL POSSIBLE WITH PARTNERSHIPS. WE LE COABORATIONS. WE ARE SO PROUD TO PARTNER WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY JAIL AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HERE IN TAMPA. AND, YOU KNOW, SCHOOLS ACROSS THE COUNTY PROTECTING AND HELPING SUPPORT TRANS CHILDREN. AND OFFER SUPPORT TO LBGTQ+ YOUTH. AGAIN, THAT IS A REALLY UNDERSERVED AND VULNERABLE POPULATION AS WE AS AN ORGANIZATION CHERISH AND WE STRIVE TO INCLUDE EVERYBODY. AND YOU KNOW HEALTH IS VERY IMPORTANT. HEALTH PEOPLE ARE WHA MAKE UP HEALTHY COMMUNITIES. SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. ONE LAST ISSUE AS I LOOK DOWN. I NOTICE I DIDN'T MENTION MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE. THE BRICK AND MORTAR IS WONDERFUL, BUT WE HAVE MOBILE HEALTH UNITS AND YOU WILL SEE US MORE IN THE COMMUNITY AS WE CONTINUE THE HIV WORK. BUT ALSO BUILDING TRUST. AND BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH INDIVIDUALS SO THEY DO FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING TO THE BRICK AND MORTAR. WITH THAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND SUPPORT. HAPPY PRIDE. >>JOHN DINGFELR: THANK YOU, SIR, FOR ALL YOU DO AND FOR EVERYTHING YOUR ORGANIZATION DOES. IT SOUNDS LIKE TREMENDOUS WORK FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. >> THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR. >>BILL CARLSON: TO ECHO THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND ALL THE PEOPLE YOU HELP AND LIVES YOU SAVE. AND ALSO, THANK YOU FOR SAVING -- HELPING TO SAVE A REALLY IMPORTANT HISTORIC BUILDING. I SAW THE RENDERINGS. IT IS BEAUTIFUL. I CAN'T WAIT TO TAKE A TOUR OF THAT. >> I CAN'T WAIT TO SHOW YOU ALL AND HAVE YOU ALL OUT FOR A TO. >>BILL CARLSON: LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING MORE, THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO IN THE COMMUNITY. I WAS THERE WHEN WE HAD -- I GUESS THE GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE NEW FACILITY. I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT THE HISTORIC GERMAN AMERICAN CLUB IS IN GOOD HANDS AND BEING RESTORED AND THE BEAUTIFUL ADDITION TO -- TO THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE, BUT HOW WELL YOU FOCUSED ON THE HISTORICAL AESTHETICS OF THE BUILDING AND IT REALLY FITS INTO -- INTO THE -- THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT THERE AND IN YBOR BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY JUST LIKE YOUR NAME SAID AND WHAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER "INCLUSIVE." IT IS OPEN TO EVERYONE AND AN ASSET TO THIS COMMUNITY THAT WILL BENEFIT SO MANY PEOPLE AND HELP SO MANY PEOPLE AND WE ARE VERY, VERY GRATEFUL THAT YOU ARE HERE AND GRATEFUL FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR. >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I CONGRATULATE YOU WITH ALONG WITH MY OTHER MEMBERS. THE YD. IT HAS MATURED INTO THIS GREAT, WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION THAT IS HELPING SO MANY PEOPLE. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR HELPING TO SAVE THAT WONDERFUL HISTORIC BUILDING ON NEBRASKA AVENUE. THE OLD GERMAN CLUB THAT USED TO BE A MASONIC TEMPLE AT THAT TIME. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE EXPANSION AND YOU AND THE ORGANIZATION HELPING SO MANY MORE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT DESPERATELY NEED HELP. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, SIR. WAY BACK IN E '4 AND '50s AND '60s, SOMETHING CLOSE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT MUTUAL AID SOCIETY. IT WAS A CUBAN CLUB, CENT RO ITALIANO AND OTHER ONES. SUPPORT A SMALL AMOUNT, TAKE CARE OF THE WHOLE FAMILY FROM BIRTH TO THE OTHER SIDE, THE END. AND THEY DID -- THEY HAD HOSPITALS. THEY HAD SURGEONS. THEY HAD NURSES. THEY HAD SPRAYS. THEY HAD LABORATORIES. THEY HAD EVERYTHING. I CALLED IT THE SRT O MEDICARE. AND THE OTHER ONE THAT WE DID WAS THE GOVERNMENT TOOK OVER AND NOT SO KIND, BUT NOW THEY CALL IT THE LOTTERY. IT USED TO BE CALLED "BOLITA." WHICH IT WAS ILLEGAL BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT WASN'T GETTING THE MONEY. HOW IT IS IN LIFE AND I AM NOT COMPARING TO YOU BOLITA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND I UNDERSTAND THE PREMISE BECAUSE I WAS PART OF THE MUTUAL AID SOCIETY AS ONE OF THE RECIPIENTS. THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: DURING YOUR PRESENTATION I WAS WONDERING -- I DIDN'T HAIR. WORKING TH T SCHOOL DISTRICT AT ALL? >> WE DO HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY ARE ONGOING, THANK YOU. YES.GU >>ORLANDO GUDES: A GOOD THING TO KNOW WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. >> ABSOLUTELY. WE WORK WITH THE GENDER -- GSAs AND LISTEN TAMPA BAY SPECIFICALLY ARE PARTNERS WITHIN THE SCHOOLS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION FOR WHAT YOU DO AND THANK YOU, MR. VIERA, FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. >> THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, SIR. OPINION OKAY, GENTLEMAN, MOVE ALONG. MR. SHELBY, YOU AND MISS ZELMAN HAVE THINGS YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH US OF THE GOVERNOR EXECUTIVE ORDER. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND. MISS ZELMAN IS ON HER WAY DOWN AND MAYBE IF WE CAN GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: PUBLIC COMMENT. HOW MANY ON THE SECOND FLOOR? >> GOOD MORNING. >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, SIR. >> COUNCILMEN. I'M HERE -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME FOR US. >> ODELL MINGO GUDES OKAY, SIR. >> I'M HERE IN REFERENCE TO THE LIENS THAT OCCURRED ON TWO OF MY PROPERTIES AND I WAS TRYING -- I HAVE BEEN RELATING TO -- SHAUNA TIM, BARBARA BELL AND MARINE REGINA. AND WE HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH TRYING TO GET THIS RESOLVED. BUT IT SEEMS AS IF EVERYONE IS -- I WANT TO SAY KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE STREET. AND I JUST NEED SOME RESOLUTIONS TO -- TO -- TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. I HAVE TWO PROPERTIES I WANT TO FIX THE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE LIENS AND NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE A RESUTIO TO HOW CAN I GET THIS RESOLVED. AND THE REASON WHY THE PROPERTY IS UNDER THE FINES THAT HAVE BEEN OCCURRING THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS. NO ONE CAN SEEM TO -- I WENT TO COURT -- I SPOKE WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT IN THE AREA, MISS ANGELINE JOHNSON. SHE IS THE ONE THAT GAVE ME THE FINES AND TOLD ME I NEED TO SHUT THEM DOWN. I SHUT THEM DOWN. I BOARDED THEM UP. I DID GO TO COURT. AFTER GOING TO COURT. I SECURED THE PROPERTIES. UPON SECURING THE PROPERTIES, I STILL OCCURRED FINES ONGOING FOR THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS, ALMOST THREE YEARS NOW. AND NO ONE CAN GIVE ME AN ANSWER ON HOW CAN I FIX THE PROBLEM. I AM NOT FINANCIALLY ABLE TO FIX THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY ASK ME TO FIX, BUT I WAS ABLE BOARD AND SECURE THE PROPERTIES AND I HAD THEM SECURED. I ACTUALLY HAD -- LIKE, TEN FAMILIES GO BACK TO THE STREET. NORMALLY HOUSE PEOPLE -- UNFORTUNATELY, HOMELESS PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT COME TO ME FOR A PLACE TO STAY, BUT, I COULDN'T DO IT ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THE LIENS THAT OCCURRED ON THESE TWO PROPERTIES. ALL OF MY -- ALL I AM ASKING FOR IS A LITTLE HELP TO SEE -- TO LIFT THESE FINES -- LIFT THE LIENS TEMPORARILY SO I CAN SELL TWO PROPERTIES TO FIX THE ORDER OF 23rd AND 29th STREET. AND I AM ASKING FOR A LITTLE HELP. I WENT TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. ANGELINE, CODE ENFORCEMENT, BARBARA JEAN, REGINA. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TO PLEASE LOOK THAT THE SITUATION AND TO HELP ME GET ALONG WITH -- BEFORE I CAN GET THIS STUFF RESOLVED. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. WE NORMALLY DON'T TALK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AND I KNOW MY OFFICE HAVE RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM YOU. MR. SHELBY HAVE GIVEN THIS TO ALL COUNCILMEMBERS IN REFERENCE TO MR. MINGO CONCERN. MY OFFICE SENTOMETNG TO LEGAL AND CODE ENFORCEMENT. WE HAVE YET TO HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT EITHER. AND I HOPE THAT STAFF IS ONLINE LISTENING TO THE CONCERNS AND HOPEFULLY GET THIS RESOLVED WITH YOU SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN MORNING SIR. >> THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CLERK, DID YOU GIVE THE COPY -- THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE HONORABLE DIANE HART IS GRACING OUR PRESENCE THIS MORNING. WE DON'T GIVE HER A THREE MINUTE -- SHE IS FREE TO GO AND HERE AND MUST HAVE SERIOUS CONCERN. DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? MISS HART, WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. I WON'T TAKE UP A LOT OF YOUR TIME. I KNOW EVERYBODY IS BUSY AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE HEARD. BUT I WANT TO SAY GOOD MORNING AND I BRING YOU GREETING FROM THE FLORIDA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES BUT TODAY I STAND FOR YOU AS THE CEO OF EAST TAMPA BUSINESS AND CIVIC ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS A NOT-FOR-PROFIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING ORGANIZATION THAIS DOING BUILDING IN OUR COMM COMMUNITY. BUT I GOT A LETTER FROM ONE OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. AND I WANTED TO READ THAT TO YOU FIRST AND THEN I WILL TALK ABOUT THE THINGS I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. IT IS FROM MISS FRANKIE JONES, WHO IS PRESIDENT OF THE RAINBOW HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND HER CONCERN IS THAT AT THE CORNER OF CHELSEA AND COURTLAND IS A NUISANCE IN THE RAINBOW HEIGHTS COMMUNITY. AS A PRESIDENT OF THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, SHE HAS JOINED WITH THE CDC AND THE CITY OF TAMPA TO GET STOP SIGNS PUT IN. IF ANY OF YOU ARE OUT IN THE AREP SIGNS. THEY WERE SORELY NEEDED. TRAFFIC SPED FROM 34th TO 40th WITH NO STOP. SO WHEN SOMEBODY GOT HIT, TYPICALLY IT WAS FATAL. SO SHE IS CONCERNED THAT -- ABOUT THE NO PARKING SIGNS AT THE BLUE STORE. AND SHE IS TALKING ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE PARKING AND STANDING ON THE IMMEDIATE PROPERTY PLAYING LOUD MUSIC, DRINKING, GAMBLING, URINATING AND ENDING WITH VERBAL CONFLICTING ISSUES. SPOKEN WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCILMEN AND THEY HAVE BEEN DAILY ISSUES AND ARE PROBLEMATIC. WORKING RESIDENTS ARE NOT ABLE TO REACH THEIR HOMES BECAUSE OF THE GAMBLING IN THE ROAD. UNABLE TO REST BECAUSE OF 12 OR MORE HOURS OF WORK BECAUSE OF LOUD MUSIC AND AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR. GUN VIOLENCE. THE RAINBOW HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION IS ASKING FOR TAMPA POLICE TO PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND POSSIBLY GO BACK TO THE BICYCLES. MANY OF YOU KNOW FOREVA I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH LAKE AND 2 29th. I HEARD T OFFER TS MORNING WHEN HE GOT THE ACCOMMODATION AND GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE WORK THE TAMPA PD DOES OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT YOU ALL HAVE TO REALIZE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES AND A LOT ARE NOT JUST OUR PEOPLE BUT CODE ENFORCEMENT. A BUILDING AT THE CORNER OF 22nd AND MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. I HAVE TRIED FOR YEARS TO GET THE CITY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS BUILDING. IT LOOKS DEPLORABLE. IT NEEDS REPAIR. AND EVERY SINGLE TIME WE BROUGHT IT TO COUNCIL, SOMEHOW THEY MANAGED TO GET BY WITH THIS THING AND I AM NT SURE HOW. BUT THERE IS SO MUCH HAPPENING WE TALK ABOUT BUILDING A BETTER COMMUNITY. THE WAY TO BUILD A BETTER COMMUNITY IS FOR IT TO HAVE A BETTER LOOKING COMMUNITY. I KNOW WE HAVE A CLEAN TEAM, NEAT TEAM. I AM NOT SURE WHAT WE ARE CALLING OUR STREAM NOW FROM THE CRA. WE HAVE A SEVEN SQUARE MILE. FOR SOME UNGODLY REASON IT LOOKS LIKE A MESS ALONG OUR RIGHT-OF-WAYS. IT SHOULD NOT. WE ARE PAYING FOR THIS OUT OF OUR CRA. I AM HOME. I'M HERE FOR THE NEXT FIVE MONTH. I INTEND TO ATTEND AS MANY OF YOUR COUNCIL MEENGS, C RA MEETINGS THAT I POSSIBLY CAN TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT IS REALLY HOLDING US UP AND WHY PER NOT PROGRESSING THAT I KNOW MANY OF YOU THINK WE SHOULD ESPECIALLY YOU COUNCILMAN. I KNOW YOU ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO GET BUILDINGS TORN DOWN IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND GET THESE EYESORES OUT OF OUR COMMUNITIES, BUT COUNCIL, DOCTOR UNLESS OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT REALLY CRACKS DOWN ON THESE BUSINESSES AND MAKE THE BUSINESSES DO BETTER AND LOOK BETTER, WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE SOME VERY SERIOUS ISSUES. SOME AREAS WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT. 23rd AND LAKE. LISTEN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW PEOPLE HANG OUT ON THE CORNER AND SIT IN FRONT OF BUSINESSES BUT WE COULDN'T DO IT IF THE BUSINESSES DID NOT ALLOW IT. SO YOU ALL REALLY -- WE NEED TO BE CRACKING DOWN ON OUR BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOT DOING THEIR PART. WE LIKE FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE INTO EAST TAMPA. AS YOU CAN SEE HOUSES ARE BEING BUILT EVERYWHERE. I ALWAYS SAY TO EVERYBODY, I WON'T KNOW EAST TAMPA AS EAST TAMPA IN FIVE YEARS BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH WE ARE GETTING FOR HOUSING, BUT WE NEED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MOVING IN HERE. AND I CAN TELL OUT AS A FORMER BUSINESS OWNER, NOBODY WANTS TO MOVE IN YOUR COMMUNITY IF THEY DON'T THINK LOOKS GOOD. LOOKS ARE IMPORTANT. BEAUTIFICATION IS CRITICAL. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO TAKE A LOOK WHAT TECO IS DOING TO OUR TREES IN THE COMMUNITY. I REACHED OUT TO THE LOBBYIST FOR TECO, IT IS DEPLORABLE. THEY CUTTING OFF THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF OUR TREES TO CLEAR THE LINES BUT LEAVING THE TREES LOOKING A MESS. THERE IS SO MANY ISSUES IN EAST TAMPA, BUT I GET IT. WE HAVE TO BITE THEM OFF THE ELEPHANT, RIGHT, ONE SMALL BITE AT A TIME. BUT WHAT WE HAVE GOT TO DO IS ENSURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS, THAT YOU -- THAT THEY STEP UP. MY OFFICE SITS AT 2814 NORTH 22nd. DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME, A HOUSE THAT WAS GOING TO BE RENOVATED. I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO SOMEBODY ABOUT IT. THEY CAN NOT TELL ME WHEN CODE ENFORCEMENT RIDES AROUND, THEY DON'T SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY. I NEED PEOPLE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ROLES TOO, JUST AS WE EXPECT OUR CONSTITUENTS AND OUR NEIGHBORS AND LOVED ONES WHO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY TO DO, WE NEED THE CITY OFFICIALS WHEN THEY ARE IN THOSE CARS AND THEY SEE THIS STUFF, THEY NEED TO REPORT IT AND TAKE CARE OF IT. WE NEED A BETTER LOOKING COMMUNITY. IF WE EXPECT BUSINESSES TO WANT TO COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY. SO I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE BUSINESS AT 22nd AND DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. 40 YEARS WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING WITH LAKE -- AND LAKE AND 29. YOU ALL KNOW WHERE IT IS. WE ALL KNOW. COME ON, WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO SPUR GROWTH. THE BUILDING IS NOW DOWN. I AM HOPING THAT YOU ALL WILL CONTINUE TO ACQUIRE THESE PROPERTIES SO THAT WE CAN GET SOMETHING GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY. YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY AT LAKE AND 22nd. I AM NOT SURE WHAT YOU ARE PLANNING TO DO WITH IT. BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO YOU ALL. LET'S GET TO DEVELOPING SOME OF OUR VACANT PROPERTIES AND BUSINESSES. STOP OUR -- STOP ME. I AM A DEVELOPER. WE DON'T NEED TO PUT ANY HOUSES ON OUR MAIN THOROUGH FARES. WE NEED COMMERCIAL ON THESE PROPERTIES. SO I BEG YOU ALL. LET'S STOP PUTTING -- LET'S STOP PEOPLE PUTTING HOUSES EVERYWHERE, AND LET'S CREATE A BUSINESS DISTRICT INSIDE OF OUR VERY OWN COMMUNITY. LOOK, SO I TALKED ABOUT THE CRA A LITTLE BIT AND THE TREES 37 SO WHAT I ASK FOR YOU ALL 20 DO IS, LET'S UNITE. AS A LEGISLATOR, I'M HERE TO HELP YOU ANY WAY I CAN FROM TALLAHASSEE. I LOOKED AT YOUR AGENDA. YOU HAVE SIDEWALKS. YOU ALL MIGHT KNOW I HAD IS IT IN THE BUDGET. GOVERNOR TOOK IT OUT. IT WILL COME BACK AGAIN NEXT YEAR. BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M HERE FOR YOU TO FIGHT WITH YOU FROM TALLAHASSEE IN ANY WAY THAT I CAN. I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING MY WORK ON THE GROUND AS LONG AS I AM HOME AND EVEN WHEN I AM NOT HERE. , YOU CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO ME. BOTH OUR CITIZENS AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS. I AM ALWAYS HERE TO DO MY PART. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME THIS MORNING. BUT LET'S BAND TOGETHER AND DEVELOPMENT EAST TAMPA AS THE OTHER SURROUNDING AREAS ARE BEING DEVELOPED. WE SEEM TO BE THE LAST ONE L LEFT. IT IS OUR TURN. SO LET'S STEP UP, EVERYBODY. INCLUDING MYSELF. AND DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKTHIS A BETTER COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SEE IF ANY COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY AND I WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. MR. MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE SPOKE ABOUT. YOU KNOW, WHEN SHE -- WHEN SHE MENTIONED "WORKING TOGETHER." WE HAVE A FIGHTER IN TALLAHASSEE AS A REPRESENTATIVE. WE HAVE A WONDERFUL CO COUNCILMEMBER THAT REPRESENTS THE DISTRICT, BUT I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON IS -- AS HAS BEEN SAID, UNITING AND TRYING REVITALIZE EAST TAMPA. I AM NOT GAWKING ABOUT GENTRIFICATION BUT LIFTING UP THE COMMUNITY, LOOK BACK AT THE LAST 20 YEARS. HISTORIC HYDE PARK YOU COULDN'T GET A LOAN FROM THE BANK TO BUY A HOUSE. IT WAS RED LINED. NOW LOOK AT HYDE PARK. TAMPA HEIGHTS. WAS NOT THE TAMPA HEIGHTS AND SEMINOLE HEIGHTS. WHAT IS IT TAKE? PEOPLE BELIEVING IN THE COMMUNITY, INVESTORS COMING TOGETHER AND LIFTING THE MMUNY UP. WE WORK TOGETHER FROM THE MA MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE STATE REPRESENTATIVE, THE CITY COUNCIL AND EVEN THE COUNTY COMMISSION, AND FOCUS ON EAST TAMPA AS A WHOLE. IT IS THE LARGEST CRA. WE HAVE THAT OUT OF THE WAY AND PUT THE FOCUS ON AND PUT A VISION TOGETHER FOR THAT COMMUNITY TO LIFT IT UP, NOT TO PUSH PEOPLE OUT, BUT TO LIFT PEOPLE UP. TO OFFER THEM A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE AND WHETHER IT IS A MARKETING PLAN FROM A COMMERCIAL PERSPECTIVE TO BRING BUSINESSES. WHETHER THEY ARE MOM AND POP OR LARGER CORPORATIONS TO INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY AND LOOK AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO KEEP POPLE IN THE COMMUNITY SO THEY ARE NOT PRICED OUT. BUT AN AREA THAT IS ALWAYS FORGOTTEN. THE FOCUS AND EMPHASIS HAVE BEEN ON OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY FLOURISH AND EAST TAMPA IS ALWAYS BEHIND. I AM NOT BLAMING ANYBODY, BUT I JUST THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THAT EFFORTS TOGETHER TO LIFT THAT COMMUNITY UP. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SAW MR. CITRO. I SAW YOUR HAND? >>JOSEPHITRO YES, SIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, MR. CARLSON, MR. VIERA. SI >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, REPRESENTATIVE, FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. EVERY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO YOU. TIM MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE TALKED TO YOU. AND HOPEFULLY SET UP SOMETHING NEXT WEEK TO ADDRESS ALL THE ISSUES YOU BROUGHT FORWARD TO US. YOU ARE CORRECT, WITHOUT BUSINESSES BEING IN THE COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY CANNOT BE A WHOLE. BUT WE NEED TO DISCUSS ALL THE ISSUES. SO I LK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH YOU, HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU FOR HAVING SIDEWALKS ON YOUR AGENDA. WE LIVE IN A CITY WHERE OUR -- OUR SCHOOLS DON'T ALLOW BUSING WITHIN A TWO-MILE RADIUS WHICH MEANS THAT CHILDREN HAVE TO WALK IN THE STREETS TO GET TO SCHOOL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FIGHT ON THAT. MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>BILL CARLSON: I ECHO THE SAME THINGS. WOULD LOVE TO MEET AND CATCH UP SOMETIMES. I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS NOT ONLY WAS EAST TAMPA IGNORED BUT ALL THE CITIES EXCEPT FOR DOWNTOWN WAS IGNORED FOR EIGHT YEARS AND TRYING TO BRING BUDGET AND PLANS BACK TO THE REST OF THE CITY AND BRING EQUITY TO THE REST OF THE CITY BUT IN PARTICULAR, WE HAVE ALL BEEN FOCUSING ON EAST TAMPA. I AM ACCUSING SOUTH TAMPA OF TALK TOOCHING OF EAST TAMPA. WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF CHAIR GUDES. WORKING ON SOLUTIONS AND TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AND OTHERS AND UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE SH SHRINKING OF THE MEDIA NOT A LOT OF COVERAGE OF SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE DOING AND WITH US HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU AND THE COMMUNITY, FOR EXAMPLE WITH HEAR MORE OF THE THINGS WE ARE TRYING TO DO. SOME OF THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED. MANY OF THE THINGS YOU ARE MENTION RIGHT SIDE UNDER THE MAYOR'S PURVIEW AND I AM SURE YOU ARE SPEAKING WITH HER AS WELL. WITH OUR HATS AS CITY COU COUNCILMEMBERS AND CRA BOARD, WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE THESE THINGS FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. ONE THING -- I CAN TALK TO YOU OFF LINE. ONE THING THAT BUGS ME ON THE AGENDA. LAST -- LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, SENATE PRESIDENT PUSHED A BILL -- AN UNFUNDED MANDATE TO FORCE CITIES FOR RECLAIMED WATER TO CONVERT TO DRINKING WATER. AND NUMBERS COULD COST THE CITY OF TAMPA RATE PAYERS $2.5 MILLION TO $6 MILLION AND NO STATE MONEY TO PAY FOR IT AND TAMPA DOESN'T NEED IT AND HAVE TO SUPPLY WATER FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT 20 YEARS. I AM HOPING THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION. I WILL TALK ABOUT THIS LATER. BUT HOPING WE CAN REPEAL IT OR EXTEND THE DEADLINES BECAUSE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BENEFIT ARE THE WATER CONTRACTORS WHO MAKE LOTS OF MONEY OFF OF THAT. A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY AND CAN DOUBLE OR MORE THE WATER BILLS. LAST YEAR AND A COUPLE OF YEARS WE INCREASED WATER RATES AND GOT A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM FAMILIES LIVING MONTH TO MONTH AND WEEK TO WEEK AND COULDN'T AFFORD THE RAISES AND ANOTHER HUGE INCREASE IN WATER RATES BECAUSE SOMEBODY IN TALLAHASSEE THINKS WE SHOULD DRINK POTTY WATER AND SPEND $6 BILLION. A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY AND HURTS ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES IN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA. YU ARE RECOGNIZED AND THEN MR. DINGFELDER. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I APPRECIATE IT. I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE WORK Y'ALL DO IN TALLAHASSEE. I HAD A GREAT TOWN HALL WITH OUR FRIEND, A WOMAN LIKE YOU THAT I THINK SO HIGHLY OF, REPRESENTATIVE DRISCOL AND GAVE AN UPDATE ON THE SUMMARY WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING IN TALLAHASSEE. AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING IS SAILING AGAINST THE WIND. YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING? SAILING AGAINST THE WINDS. A LOT OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS IS HAVING THE COURAGE TO VOTE NO ON THINGS. BILLS THAT ARE SET-UPS. BILLS THAT ARE SET-UPS AND WHATNOT AND YOU VOTE NO WITH CONVICTION AND YOU VOTE YES TO DO THE RIGHT THING WITH CONVICTION, COURAGE AND STRENGTH. IHANKOU FOR THAT. SO MANY OF OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES LEARNED IT. VALDEZ. SENATOR CRUZ, AMONG MANY OT OTHERS. REPRESENTATIVE DRISCOL AND YOURSELF ETC. JUST FOR WHAT YOU DO IN TALLAHASSEE. IT IS NOT EASY. IT IS A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FIGHT. AND I JUST HOPE THAT WE HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE SEEN AS A GOOD PARTNER FOR YOU IN WHAT YOU DO. YOU KNOW WE ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE CHAIRMAN GUDES WITH US. HIS FIRST YEAR, YOU TALK ABOUT A MARK MAGUIRE ROOKIE YEAR. HE GOT IN $18 MILLIONOR - FOR EAST TAMPA REC CENTER. YOU KNOW. TALK ABOUT A ROOKIE YEAR, RI RIGHT. THAT -- THAT IS JUST MARVELOUS AND SALUTE THE CHAIRMAN FOR THAT AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS. BUT WE JUST HOPE WE ARE HERE AS A GOOD PARTNER FOR ECONOMIC MOBILITY AND TURNING EAST TAMPA AND ALL PARTS OF OUR CITY THAT ARE DISADVANTAGED AS A PLACE WHERE JOBS ARE CREATED, WHERE BUSINESSES CAN COME AND FLOURISH ETC. , AND WHERE PEOPLE SEE EAST TAMPA AS A PLACE TO INVEST BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THEY CAN MAKE MONEY. THAT IS WHERE THEY N HA PROFITS FOR THEIR BUSINESSES. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT -- THAT IS THE INCENTIVE IN OUR SOCIETY. AND THE MESSAGE IS THAT EAST TAMPA IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS. AND THAT IT IS GOOD PLACE WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO ARE THERE FOR SPENDING POWER AND WHO CAN SPEND IT IN THE COMMUNITY AT THESE BUSINESSES. AND WE ARE HERE TO -- TO SUPPORT THAT. AND ALSO FOR TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL FOUGHT AGAINST WAS THE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF AN APPRENTICESHIP PREEMPTION BILL, VERSION OF IT PASSED. WILSEE. WHAT IS WITH THAT. BUT WE PASSED A HISTORIC APPRENTICESHIP BUILD TO CREATE A BETTER PATHWAY FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS IN SULPHUR SPRINGS, AND ALL OVER THE CITY OF TAMPA AND GOD WILLING THAT WILL STICK. WE HOPE WE ARE GOOD PARTNERS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND THAT OF CHAIRMAN GUDES. THANK YOU, MA'AM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: REPRESENTATIVE HART, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE TODAY. WE HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER A LONG TIME. I APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH. SO GLAD WHEN YOU GOT ELECTED BECAUSE I KNEW YOU WOULD GO UP TERE AND BE A FIGHTER LIKE ARTHENIA AND OTHERS IN THE PAST BEFORE YOU. IT'S INTERESTING, I KNOW WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET INTO IT TODAY BECAUSE -- BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS BEING SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I DID SEE -- COME ACROSS OUR DESK THE FACT THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL BE ADDRESSING ONE OF THOSE CONVENIENCE STORES. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHICH ONE IT IS, BUT IT IS OBVIOUSLY ONE THAT HAS BEEN HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T PREJUDGE IT UNLESS WE HAVE THAT HEARING, BUT I THINK THAT IT IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND IF WE HAVE TO SEND A MESSAGE OUT THERE O THOSE CONVENIENCE STORES AND THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE CREATING NUISANCES AND PROBLEMS IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT OF TOUGH LOVE. BUT ANYWAY, DIANA, WE APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE JOB YOU DO IN TALLAHASSEE. I KNOW YOU ARE ON THE MINORITY SIDE AND SOMETIMES VERY DIFFICULT TO GET YOUR POINTS ACROSS. MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME IF YOU WERE A REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT OR WHATEVER, YOU LOOK AT THE SUPPRESSION OF SOMEONE TRYING TO SUPPRESS INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN VOTING EARLY OR BY MAIL, AND THEY WANT TO TAKE SOME OF THAT AWAY, THAT TELLS YOU THIS COUNTRY IS REALLY, REALLY DIVIDED. I WILL BE CALLING YOU FROM MY OFFICE TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO GO SEE YOU. AND I THINK WE CAN WORK SOME OF . SOME WILL TAKE A LITTLE LONGER AND POTTY, POOPY WATER IS DRANK ALL OVER THE WORLD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: AGAIN, TO CIIZENS OF TAMPA, YOU KNOW, WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE MISS -- REPRESENTATIVE HART HERE TODAY AND WE DON'T GIVE HER A TIME LIMIT TO PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE SHE BRINGS A MESSAGE. WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO HER MESSAGE AND GIVE DEFERENCE TO THAT. MISS HART IS RIGHT ABOUT A LOT. ENT PERME. NOT SO MUCH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUT ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT. IN EAST TAMPA, THE RESIDENTS, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAVE BECOME EMPOWERED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. MR. MIRANDA SAID LOOK -- LOOK AT ALL THE E-MAILS WE ARE GETTING OF THE ISSUE OF EAST TAMPA. WE ALWAYS HAD ISSUES BUT NOW PEOPLE ARE STANDING UP TO FIGHT IT. MISS FRANKIE, SHE CALLS ME ALL THE TIME. IF SHE DOESN'T REACH ME, CALLS THE MAYOR. WE HAVE ISSUES. I HA BEEWORKG WITH LEGAL. THEY HAVE A STRATEGY THAT WE WILL BE PUTTING FORTH THAT MR. DINGFELDER. WE HAVE TO ESSENTIAL A MESSAGE. EAST TAMPA CAN NO LONGER BE THE DUMPING GROUNDS. NOT PICKING ON BLACK PEOPLE -- THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING THERE ARE TIRED OF THE SHOOTING. TIRED OF THE LOUD MUSIC THAT IS CONGREGATING AT SOME OF THESE ESTABLISHMENTS UNTIL LATE, LATE AT NIGHT. I CAN'T BLAME THEM. TALK OF GENTRIFICATION. WE LOOK AT THE HOUSES BEING BUILT. 95% OF THE HOUSES BLACK PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN THEM. THEY AREIVININ THEM 37 BUT WE NEED AN ECONOMIC ENGINE. I SAID THIS WHEN I WAS A POLICE OFFICER. UNTIL WE DO THINGS WITH 79 AND LAKE WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS. 29th AND LAKE COMING DOWN TO 26 UP 22nd STREET. THEN OFF LAKE AVENUE IN THE MIDDLE. I SAID THIS TO STAFF. I HAVE TOLD MISS VAN LOAN. I TOLD THE CHIEF OF STAFF, NEEDS TO BE A TEAM, AN AGGRESSIVE SEPARATE TEAM FOCUSED ON EAST TAMPA AS IT DEALS WITH MORTGAGES AS FAR AS LOANS AND DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS FOR DEMOLITION, HOUSING. STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN IS CO COMING, BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TEAM TO WORK THAT STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN. YOU CAN'T JUST PUT IT ON A SHELF LIKE IT HAS DONE MANY, MANY YEARS. WHEN IT IS DONE HAVE THAT TEAM READY TO GO TO FIGHT ALL OF THE ISSUES AND HAVE THAT ECONOMIC WOMAN ENGINE COME WITH THE BUSINESS DISTRICT. EVERYBODY HAS A BUSINESS DISTRICT AND WE NEED TO HAVE ONE AND WITH CODE ENFORMENT CHANGE OUR MODEL. CHANGE WHAT WE ARE DOING. WE ARE NOT TAKING PEOPLE'S HOMES AND HAVE A PROGRAM -- YOU HEARD ME FROM DAY ONE, THE POLICE OFFICERS, FIREMEN, GARBAGE MEN, WHEN THEY SEE THE ITEMS NOT JUST CITE IT UP. FROM A BROCHURE. KNOCK ON THE DOOR [KNOCKING] -- -- KNOCK ON THE DOOR. HOW CAN WE HELP YOU? WE DON'T KNOW THE PEOPLE LIVING BEHIND THE DOOR AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES. WE HAVE MONEY TO DEAL WITH R ROOFS AND ALL KIND OF STUFF BUT PEOPLE ARE NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE. THE DIRECTOR FOR EAST TAMPA WILL BE ON BOARD BECAUSE TO KNOCK ON THESE DOORS HAVE THE OFFICERS GIVE OUT BROCHURES AND PAMPHLETS TO FIX THE ROOFS AND HOUSES REPAIR. UNTIL YOU FIX THE PROBLEM. PEOPLE ARE VISUAL. TAKE KIDS TO OTHER AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY. WHEN THEY COME TO MY COMMUNITY, THEY DON'T ASK WHERE A TRASH CAN AT. WHEN THEY GO TO SOMEBODY ELSE'S -- I HATE TO USE THAT ANALOGY BECAUSE IT IS BAD AND THE PSYCHE OF THE MIND. BUT WE ARE VISIONARY PEOPLE. STAFF IS WORKING ON ISSUES, MISS ARCTIC. WE NEED TO DO MORE. THINGS AND I ALSO WANT STAFF TO LOOK AT TO UPLIFT THE COMMUNITY OF EAST TAMPA. THANK YOU FOR COMING. LETS RESIDENTS KNOW I AM WORKING EVERY DAY. THIS COUNCIL IS BEHIND ME TO WORK TO GET THE PROBLEMS SO SOLVED. THE MAYOR IS GENUINE WANTING TO DO THE SAME THING. WE NEED TO GO OUT THERE AND UNIFY AND GET THE MESSAGE. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN MOR MORNING. >> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. ALSO, Y'ALL, LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT THEOMELESS POPULATION. A SERIOUS HOMELESS ISSUE. LET'S WORK ON THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU SOON. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. WE WILL CONTINUE ON WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BU BURTON. THIS CONSTANT ATTEMPT TO DIVIDE THE RESIDENTS OEASTAMPA AS TO THOSE WHO ARE HOMEOWNERS, APARTMENT RENTER, DEVELOPERS, PEOPLE THAT MIGHT LIVE WITH GRAND MAMA. WE WANT TO STOP THAT. WE LOVE ALL RESIDENTS OF EAST TAMPA. WE WANT TO SEE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY UP LIFTED. EAST TAMPA HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE. BELMONT HEIGHT, JACKSON HEIGHT. AHVIEW HILL. A COMMUNITY THAT IS ALMOST -- YOU CAN FIND THOSE COMMUNITIES ALMOST EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY AND ANY OTHER CITY. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THINGS HAVE BEEN DELIBERATELY DONE TO LEAD OUR WHOLE COMMUNITIES FROM PROSPERING. DON'T PUT IT ON THE PEOPLE. ON YOUR AGENDA YOU HAVE WORDS IN ITEM NUMBER 7 AND 8 THAT YOU WANT TO LOOK INTO SOMETHING. YOU WANT TO HAVE THINGS EXPLAINED TO YOU. YOU WANT THE STAFF TO COME BACK AND REPORT. I WOULD HOPE IT IS WITH A SENSE OF URGENCY. SITTING IN EAST TAMPA AND BEING A CHAIR FOR THE LAST NINE MONTHS HAS GIVEN ME AS AN ACTIVIST A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THINGS ARE DELIBERATELY PUT ON HOLD. 26 AVAILABLE LOTS THAT WAS PURCHASED WITH CRA MONEY HAS BEEN LAID DORMANT. WHY? OF REFUSAL TO MOVE FORWARD BY STAFF. AND, SO, YES, IT SOUNDS GOOD. I KNOW THE MAYOR IS OUT THIS MORNING IN EAST TAMPA PROMOTING A ONE HOUSE REBUILD WHEN SO MANY RESIDENTS IN EAST TAMPA NEED HELP. YOU CAN DO BETTER IF YOU WANTED TO. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LOUD MUSIC, I -- I COME TO THIS COUNCIL EVERY WEEK AND HEAR OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS TALKING ABOUT SAME ISSUES. WE AIN'T TALKING OF INCAR INCARCERATING OR SHUTTING DOWN BUSINESS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT COMPASSIONATE WORK WITH PEOPLE. WHEN WE TALK OF EAST TAMPA AND HEARD THE SAME BODY AND LEADERSHIP THAT JUST LEFT TALKED ABOUT HOW WE WAS GOING TO RESOLVE SOME OF THE KILLINGS IN EAST TAMPA. WE LEAVE OUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE GOT A SERIOUS MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS IN EAST TAMPA AS LONG AS -- ALONG WITH SYSTEMIC POVERTY. AND THE PRESIDENT UNDERSTAND THAT. TO GET RID OF BOTH OF THEM, YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED? BE INFUSION OF INCOME, WEALTH, JOBS, OPPORTUNITY FOR BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES. INSTEAD OF JUST ONGOING RHETORIC. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS BURTON. >> AFRICAN QUEEN. >> AND YOU ARE THE AFRICAN K KING. >> THANK YOU, STER. NEEDED THAT. GOOD MORNING, MENTESNOT, TAMPA FLORIDA. YOU KNOW WHAT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS ARE, HISTORICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS ANY TIME YOU HAVE SERIAL RAPISTS, SERIAL CHILD MOLESTERS, SERIAL PEDOPHILES, THEY INSERT THEMSELVES FLIGHT SOCIETY. INSERT THEMSELVE RIGHT IN ORGANIZATIONS. INSERT THEMSELVES IN THE INSTITUTIONS AND DO WHAT THEY DO. THE WHITE PEOPLE SITTING THROUGH WITH ORLANDO GUDES, THEY ARE ALLOWING HIM TO INSERT HIMSELF. THE WHITE PEOPLE WITH DIANE HART AND TALKING OF THE NONSENSE OF PEOPLE PISSING ON THE SIDEWALKS AND PEOPLE GAMBLING AND POLITICIANS NOT TALKING OF REPARATIONS AND POWER AND BLACK PEOPLE GETTING POWER, TALKING ABOUT GARBAGE. THE WHITE PEOPLE SITTING THROUGH AND ALLOW THEM TO PIMP AFRICAN PEOPLE WITH THE SAME KNOWLEDGE THAT AOWEDERRY HARVEY AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS TO SIT UP THERE AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT NONSENSE. Y'ALL ARE DISINGENUOUS AND Y'ALL ARE DISHONEST. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE. THE GARBAGEMAN IN THE FORM OF ORLANDO GUDES SAYING HE IS NOT AFRICAN. THAN WHAT IS HE. IF HE IS NOT AFRICAN LIKE THE GAY PEOPLE TO REPRESENT THE HOMOSEXUAL AND INTEREST AND THEY COME OUT OF PUBLIC SAY I AM NOT GAY, I DON'T REPRESENT YOUR INTERESTS. I DON'T REPRESENT THE INTEREST OF AFRICA. I NEVER BEEN TO AFRICA. I AM BLACK. MAN, GROW UP AND HAVE SOME SENSE. BLACK POLITICIANS ARE NOT TALKING OF REPARATIONS. BLACK POLITICIANS ARE NOT TALKING OF REAL BLACK POWER. BLACK POLITICIANS TALKING OF NOON SENSE AND WHITE POLI POLITICIANS SITTING WITH THEM AND TALKING THE NONSENSE WITH THEM. GARBAGE TALKERS. TALKING OF PEOPLE PISSING ON THE SIDEWALK AND PEOPLE GAMBLING AND PEOPLE ARE ECONOMICALLY OPPRESSED. WE HAVE BEEN ECONOMICALLY OPPRESSED FOR 621 YEARS. AIN'T NOBODY TALKING OF REPARATIONS. THE BLACK MAN IN DISTRICT 5 TALKING ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE'S INTEREST WHERE WE EXPERIENCE POLICE VIOLENCE. WE EXPERIENCE POLICE VIOLENCE AND HE VOTED LIKE A POLICE SNITCH. WE NEED HIM OUT OF OFFICE, Y'ALL. WE NEED TO RECALL HIM. THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO. IF BLACK PEOPLE AREN'T TALKING REPARATIONS, IF BLACK POLITICIANS ARE NOT TALKING BLACK POWER, THROW THEM OUT OF OFFICE, EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM. WEEK AFTER WEEK TALKING NONSENSE GARBAGE. REC CENTERS. ROUNDABOUTS. GARBAGE. NOTHING MORE BUT GARBAGE. OUR KIDS GETTING KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL. OUR YOUTH GETTING PUT IN POLICE HANDS AND IN THE POLICE STATE AND Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT ROUNDABOUTS. PEOPLE PISSING ON THE SIDEWALK, LOUD MUSIC. Y'ALL ARE IGNORANT, IGNORANT BLACK, UGLY POLITICIANS. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE. EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU UGLY. AND YOU SHOW IT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FIRED UP TODAY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE? >> HELLO. I AM SOVEREIGN DESPOT, HOLDER IN DUE COURSE. KING JOHNNY BERRD BTH HALL, UNIFORM COMMERCIAL CODE 1-308. I AM THE NORTH AMERICAN HEAD LEADER. I AM NOT A COMMERCIAL ENTITY. I AM THE ACTUAL LIVING GOVERNMENT. AND WATCHING ALL OF YOUR COMMERCIAL GOVERNMENTS. AS YOU CAN SEE, YOUR BLACKS AND WHITES ARE GETTING MORE FRUSTRATED, SO YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REVEAL THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON. LIKE -- OKAY. WHITES AND BLACKS STILL CLASHING. I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS UNDERSTOOD THE WHOLE WORLD WAS PLACED UNDER BABYLONIAN SLA SLAVERY. EVERY STATE, EVERY COUNTRY, EVERY PLACE YOU ARE. YOU ARE DEALING WITH LEADERS FROM THE OLD WAY OF THINKING THAT THEY ARE STILL HOLDING YOU UNDER SOME BABYLONIAN LOCKDOWN THING THINKING THAT ALL OF YOU ARE SINNERS AND AGAINST -- AND HAVE BEEN CHASING AFTER THE WICKED WAYS OF RELIGION AND PROPHET. PROPHET. -- PROFIT. PROFIT. OUT OF DECRONOID, WHAT YOU CALL MONEY, DOLLARS AND THIS AND THAT. NOT AWARE THAT REAL MONEY WAS NEVER ALLOTTED OR GIVEN TO THE WORKERS OR GIVEN TO THE ENSLAVED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. EVERYTHING IS BORROWED LIKE HERE IN AMERICA. ALL OF THE HOUSES ARE BORROWED. ALL OF YOUR CARS ARE BORROWED. INCLUDING YOUR MONEY AND THIS AND THAT. WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS FROM YOU BUT DO NEED TO GET ALONG AND START HELPING I'M OTHER AND STOP HURTING EACH OTHER AND STOP DRAGGING AROUND HALF-TRUTHS AND COME TOGETHER WITH FULL TRUTHS. AFRICANS, YOU GUYS ARE CALLED NEW BEGINNINGS. THAT BECAME AFRICA WHEN EUROPE TOOK IT OVER. YOU ARE A NUBIAN. WAKE UP TO WHO YOU ARE. SAME THING WITH MY NATIVE-AMERICANS INDIGENOUS LIKE ME, CHEROKEE, SEMINOLE, OUR HOUSEHOLDS ARE HERE TO HELP RAISE YOU OUT OF THE FILTH AND DARKNESS THAT YOU ARE STUCK IN. WE DON'T MEAN NO HARM TO YOU EVEN THOUGH YOU RUN AROUND SCARED AND FEARED THAT THAT IS WHAT THE DEAL WITH. AS FAR AS MARY JANE, JOE BIDEN AND ALL OF THEM GO, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TRANSITIONING Y'ALL FROM LOCKDOWN TO ACTUAL FREEDOM. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING FREEDOM TALKS. YOU ARE NOT FREE. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING INDEPENDENT TALKS. YOU ARE NOT INDEPENDENT. YOU GUYS ARETILL STUCK UNDER THE EUROPEAN POWER. YOU STILL AFRAID -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. >> THAT WAS THE FINAL SPEAKER. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. ANYBODY REGISTERED, MADAM CLERK? >>CLERK: YES, GOOD MORNING, CHAIR. THE FIRST SPEAKER IS KATHLEEN FARMIGON. IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, UNMUTE YOURSELF YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. >> THANK YOU, MY NAME IS KATHY FORGANIZAN, A RESIDENT OF DAVIS ISLAND. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS MORNING. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CITY STAFF FOR HOSTING A MEETING ON THE TEXT AMENDMENT ISSUE, LaCHONE DOCK AND ABBYE FEELEY HAVE BEEN SO HELPFUL IN PARTICULAR OF ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS AND PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS. FOR THOSE OF HOUSE ARE ACTIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, THE MICHELINI LUM TEXT AMENDMENT RAISES ALARM. IT ALLOWS DEVELOPERS TO BYPASS THE EXISTING PROCESSES RELATED LAND USE CODE AND RECEIVE BLANKET APPROVAL TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF STRUCTURES, DECREASE SETBACKS BETWEEN BUILDINGS, AND BEFORE THE PROVISION WAS REMOVED, EVEN TO RAISE THE HEIGHT OF POOLS TO GRAY, MEANING YOUR NEIGHBOR'S NEW POOL COULD BE AT THE HEIGHT OF YOUR SIX-FOOT FENCE. THE SESSION THAT CITY STAFF HELD ALLOWED US TO COMMENT ON THE ISSUES AND RESULTED IN THE REMOVAL OF SOME OF THESE ITEMS. OUR ABILITIES TO ENGAGE IN THE PROCESS IS CRITICAL AS CIT CITIZENS. THE ONL RATIONALE FOR THE TEXT AMENDMENT SEEMS TO BE TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR DEVELOPERS TO INCREASE THE MASS OF THEIR BUILDINGS WITHOUT A WAY FOR NEIGHBORS TO EXPRESS THEIR -- THEIR CONCERNS AND INTERESTS. IT SEEMS PRUDENT, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO HEIGHT AND MASS, TO WAIT TO MAKE CHANGES UNTIL THE RESULT OF THE MASSING STUDY REQUESTED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN COMPLETED. I RESPECTFULLY ASK COUNCIL TO PROTECT YOUR NEIGHBORS' RIGHTS PARCIPATE IN THE PROCESS. THANKS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. >>CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER CAROL ANN BENNETT. CAROLE, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, UNMUTE YOURSELF. >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT. I WOULD LIKE TO AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER. I COULDN'T HAVE POSSIBLY SAID IT BETTER MYSELF. IN ADDITION TO WHAT SHE IS SAID, I ASK YOU TO DROP THE ADMINISTRATIVE LOT LOADS. IT IS A BAD IDEA. A SOLUTION WITHOUT A PROBLEM. MORE THAN 5% ISOO MUCH AND AS ABBYE POINTED OUT 5% ACCO ACCOMPLISHES NOTHING. THIS WILL ENCOURAGE MORE APPLICATIONS FOR REZONING, NOT LESS. YOU WILL GIVE THEM AN INCH, THEY WILL COME BACK ASKING FOR A MILE. THE NEW ARGUMENT WILL BE, IT IS HARDLY MORE THAN AN ADMINISTRATIVE SPLIT. IF THIS LOT WAS THREE FEET BIGGER, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED AUTOMATICALLY. SOME PEOPLE IN THE JUNE 7 INFORMATION MEETING WERE IN FAVOR OF IT. AS FAR AS I COULD TELL THOSE PEOPLE WERE BUILDERS. ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHO VOICEDN CONTINUE WERE AGAINST IT. CURRENTLY NEIGHBORS HAVE A VOICE. PLEASE DON'T TAKE THAT VOICE AWAY. THAT PUBLIC MEETING WAS VERY HELPFUL AND CONVINCE $ME OF TWO THINGS. ONE, I HAVE NO IDEA OF THE TRUE EFFECT OF THE AMENDMENTS SUBMITTED BY MR. LUM AND MR. MICHELINI EVEN THOUGH I SAT THROUGHOUT WHOLE THING. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WILL CHANGE IF THE AMENDMENT PASSES. WHAT HAPPENS UNDER CURRENT CODE AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN UNDER THEIR MAIN CODE. IF CITIZENS HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN THE INFORMATION THAN THE CHANGES SHOULD NOT GO FORWARD. THE SECOND THING I DECIDED AFTER THAT MEETING THAT PRIVATELY INITIATE AGREEMENTS NEED TO BE ELIMINATED. PROFESSIONALS WITH DEEP POCKETS TO CUSTOM TAYLOR THE CODE FOR THEIR BENEFITS AND ALL THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE NOT UNDER. ITEM NUMBER 6 ON THE AGENDA SIDEWALKS AND CROSSWALKS SO CHILDREN CAN WALK TO SCHOOL SAFELY. A SHAME THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS AND WASN'T REQUIRED DECADES AGO. PLEASE MAKE THIS BUDGET PRIORITY WHAT IT SHOULD BE. ITEM NUMBER 10, INTERIM DEVELOPMENT CONTROL ORDINANCE. THERE IS NO TIME LEFT FOR TEMPORARY MEASURE SO LET IT GO. WHEN THE TIME COMES, PLEASE PASS THE MEASURE OF THE COMP PLAN AND THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR BONUS DENSITY THAT THEY HAVE TO DO ALL ALONG. THIS PROPOSAL IS SO BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION I CAN'T DECIDE WHICH SHAKES QUOTE TO USE, MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING, A TEMP PEST IN A TEA POT. AND TIGERS AND BEARS, OH, MY.S ANDING SO. WATER, THERE IS GOOD GROWTH AND BAD GROWTH. MANY DEVELOPERS PROMOTE THE HAIR ON FIRE APPROACH TO GROWTH. THAT IS BAD GROWTH. IT IS GOOD PROFIT, BUT BAD GROWTH. THOUGHTFUL PLANNED SUSTAINABLE, RESILIENT GROWTH THAT DOES NOT OUTPACE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT DOES NOT CRIPPLE THE CURRENT RESIDENTS WITH THE COST OF GROWTH, THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE US TO DRINK TOILET WATER. THAT IS GOOD GROWTH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. >>CLERK: SPOKE PEAKER IS STEPHANIE POYNER. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, I CAN. >> GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. THE HUGE AGENDA DAY AND I WILL GO DOWN THE LIST. YOU HAVE POSTPONED MR. SHELBY'S NUMBER TWO ITEM. PLEASE GIVE MR. SHELBY HIS LIFE BACK AND GET RID OF IT. NUMBER 4, PLEASE VOTE NO ON THAT. NUMBER 5, I SENT YOU A VIDEO. I SENT IT TO YOU TWICE WITH A PRESENTATION OF -- FROM THE -- FROM THE 7th OFUNE. SEVEN ITEMS THAT IMPACT THE ENTIRE CITY. OF ALL THOSE ITEMS, ONLY ONE THAT I DO NOT OPPOSE IS THE ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR DUPLEXES IF THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TWO-CAR DRIVEWAYS. I CAN'T SPEAK TO NUMBER 8 AND NEW JERSEY 9 BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE CA. I DID CONFIRM THAT THOSE WERE DISCUSSED WITH THE CRAs AND THEY THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. NUMBER 6, VOTE YES. THE SIDEWALK WEST SHORE ELEMENTARY WAS PROMISED YEARS AGO TO COME FROM ENGLAND SO THE KIDS CAN GET TO SCHOOL ON TIME. AMAZING HOW QUICKLY BAYSHORE CAN GET SIDEWALKS FOR THAT COMMUNITY, BUT WE SEEM TO NOT FIND ANY MONEY TO DO THESE OTHERS. NUMBER 7, HUD HAS NO DEFINITION FOR ESSENTIAL OR WORKFORCE HOUSING BUT NOT 500-SQUARE-FOOT APARTMENTS AT $1100 A MONTH. NUMBER 9, THE WATER THING, JUST SAY NO. NUMBER 10, I THINK I AM TELLING YOU TO VO NO. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE IBCO OR OTHERWISE A MORATORIUM F FORKING SO, BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT -- TO SOG, BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. TO HAVE A TRANSIT CORRIDOR BOUNDARY, A REASON WE HAVE A BOUNDARY. WHY WOULD ANYBODY EXTEND THAT . I WON'T SPECULATE AND I CAN GUESSES, AND I AM GUESSING THAT PEOPLE WITH PRETTY DEEP POC POCKETS, BUT CERTAINLY NOT THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. I -- WE HAVE HEARD REPEATEDLY THAT SOG CANNOT BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY, AND YET SOMEBODY THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT IDEA TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA SO THAT THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE TRANSIT CORRIDORS CAN ACTUALLY BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY. HMM ... GO FIGURE. LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, T. H. A. N., I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, THE TAMPA HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS OF NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY ARE HAVING THEIR ELECTION ONALL 14. FOLKS WHO ARE IN THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND LISTENING TODAY. PLEASE REACH OUT TO US. WE HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE GROUP FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A NEW WEB SITE. AND WE HAVE E-MAILS THAT ARE COMING OUT ON A FAIRLY REGULAR BASIS AND WE ARE WORKING ON COMMUNICATE WITH ALL CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND HELPING THEM WITH THEIR -- THEIR NEED THAT AFFECT EVERYBODY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. >>CLERK: NEXT WEEK IS JEAN STROHMEYER, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> HELLO. A BIG AGENDA FOR THIS WORKSHOP MORNING. HELLO, EVERYBODY, I AM JEAN STROHMEYER, I AM SOUTH OF GA GANDY. SEVERAL ITEMS HERE. TWO OR THREE HAVE BEEN POSTPONED. WE NEED TO GET RID OF THE PRIVATELY INITIATIVEED TEXT AMOUNTS. MIMT. THAT IS ANOTHER THING. LET'S SEE, ITEM NUMBER 4 -- EXCUSE ME. THE LOTS, HAVING THAT DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY. WE THINK THAT IS A VERY BAD IDEA. IF SOMEONE NEXT DOOR TO ME WANTS TO SPLIT A LOT, I SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT IT NOT PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT DON'T KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DO NOT KNOW -- YOU KNOW, DON'T KNOW THE DYNAMICS. THAT NEEDS TO BE KEPT TO THE NEIGHBORS. AND CITY COUNCIL AND ZONING. NUMBER 7 IS -- THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I JUST THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN A SMARTER WAY, BUT PEOPLE STILL HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN THEIR MEANS AND I DON'T MEAN THAT IN A CONDESCENDING WAY. I THINK THAT -- WHEN I WAS 15, I LIVED IN A STUDIO AND IT WAS $400 A MONTH, ONE PAYCHECK WENT TO THE ELECTRIC AND WATER. THE NEXT PAYCHECK WT TO RENT. AND I DIDN'T EAT OUT. I DIDN'T HAVE ANY BENEFIT. NUMBER 8, COMPARING TAMPA TO CHICAGO. I JUST REALLY -- THAT IRKS ME A LOT. WE ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN CHICAGO. WE DO NOT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE CHICAGO. SO WE NEED TO BUILD OUR MODELS ON WHAT WE THE CITIZENS LIKE AND WHAT WE NEED. NUMBER 9, TOILET TO TAP. I SAID IT 100 TIMES. JUST A BAD IDEA AND IF MR. DINGFELDER SAID, WE HAVE ENOUGH WATER FOR 20 YEARS. WHO IS GOING TO BENEFIT -- I AGREE, WHO IS GOING TOENEF. FRANKLY IN 20 YEARS, WE DON'T KNOW IF TAMPA WILL BE HERE. UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE OVERBUILDING IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AND OVERBUILDING IN THE PENINSULA AND OUR POPULATION WILL PROBABLY BE REDUCD BY STORM SURGE AND HURRICANE DECIMATION. AND PEOPLE GETTING STUCK IN THEIR CARS TRYING TO LEAVE THE PENINSULA. NUMBER 10, THE MORATORIUM THEY SAID WE WANTED THAT. IF THE NONMORATORIUM, MORATORIUM. LIKE HE SAID IT HAS HAD ITS HEYDAY AND WE KNOW WHICH ONES VOTED AGAINST IT AND WWILL KEEP THAT IN MINDS. YEAH, THAT IS ABOUT THE FULL AGENDA. HAVE A GREAT DAY. AND BE SAFE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. >>CLERK: THANK YOU. LAST SPEAKER WE HAVE A THOMAS CONLEY. IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. >> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN GU GUDES, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS. TOM CONLEY PRESIDENT OF THE VIRGINIA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK OF ITEMS 3, 4 AND 5, THE E 2021-8 CHAPTER 27. VIRGINIA PARK WLD LIKE TO ECHO WHAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS ALL SAID AND ASK THAT THE COUNCIL DO AWAY WITH THE PITA, THE PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS FOR THE REASONS MANY SPEAKERS BEFORE ALREADY ARTICULATED. ISSUES WILL BE WROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL OR LAND DEVELOPMENT TO INITIATE AN AMENDMENT IF NEEDED, PROPERLY STAFFED AND ALLOW THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE AFFECTED AND STAKEHOLDER TO HAVE A SAY AT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE -- THE PROPOSAL TO CHANGE ADMINISTRATIVE LOT SPLIT. AS I STATED IN A LETTER SUBMITTED TO YOU PROPER TO THIS, VIRGINIA PARK HAS PULLED ITS MEMBERSHIP. AND WE ARE STRONGLY AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL TO ALLOW ADMINISTRATIVE SPOTS -- LOT SPLITS AS STATED ON YOUR AGENDA AND AS VERY WELL ARTICULATED BY THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK AS KATHLEEN DID THE CITY STAFF AND YOU FOR THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE TO TRY TO EDUCATE US, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE VIDEO MEETING I THINK WAS UNPRODUCTIVE IN ONE RESPECT THAT IT DID NOT ALLOW A TRUE GIVING-AND-TAKE BETWEEN THE STAKEHOLDER AND THE PRESENTERS. ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THE GOOD WORK AND EFFORT YOU DO FOR THE CITY. GOOD DAY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. >>CLERK: CHAIR, THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENTS PORTION OF THE AGENDA. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, DEPUTY CLERK. I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOMEONE ON FLOOR TWO. HOW MANSPEAKERS DO WE HAVE DOWN THERE? MR. MICHELINI. >> YES, SIR, GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. STEVE MICHELINI HERE ON BEHALF OF THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION. WE SENT AN E-MAIL TO YOU REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 10 AND THE REVISITING OF THE MORATORIUM OR BY ANY OTHER N NAME, IT IS THE SAME. THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN DEBATED. WE INVESTIGATED THIS AS WELL AND PROVIDED YOU WITH INFORMATION. EVERY TIME THIS COMES UP, THE ISSUE REGARDING EVACUATION OR SAFETY PLANS CONTINUE TO ARISE. THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS WEL AS TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT ALL WEIGHED IN INDIATING TO YOU OF WRITTEN REPORTS THAT WE PROVIDED FOR YOU AND ALSO I BELIEVE THAT THE STAFF HAS PROVIDED THAT AS WELL. INDICATING THAT THERE ARE NO ISSUES REGARDING THAT, THAT THERE ARE PLANS THAT ARE SUFFICIENT. AND ARE PROVEN TO BE WELL -- WELL THOUGHT OUT AND WELL PLANNED AND TO THEIR KNOWLEDGE, THERE HAVE BEEN NO ISSUE AND EVEN ANTICIPATED THAT WOULD CAUSE INDIVIDUALS NOT TO BE LE TO EVACUATE DURING THE TIME OF EMERGENCY. NO PRECEDENT ESTABLISHED FOR URGENCY TO ADOPT THIS. ASSUMING FROM THE STAFF REPORT THAT PEOPLE WALK A QUARTER OF A MILE, I CAN TELL YOU THERE ARE NUMEROUS SERVICE INDUSTRIES WITH MORE THAN A QUARTER MILE AND WITHIN THE QUARTER MILE TO DRIVE TO A AND SCOOTER -- AND TRANSIT MEANS TO GET THERE. SO THE STUDY ON THE FACE OF IT DOES NOT REALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUE. I THINK THAT THE EMPIRICAL DATA THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FROM THOSE AGENCIES, THE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS THE TRANSMIT THE DEPARTMENT ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED IT. NO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, WITH A MORATORIUM IN THIS CASE AND ALLOW THE PROCESS TO WORK. IT IS IN THE PROCESS NOW OF GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERATION AND FOR INPUT AS WELL AS STUDY. AND WE WOULD PREFER THAT YOU WOULD ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN INSTEAD OF ANOTHER INTERIM MEASURE THAT WOULD FURTHER CONFUSE THE PROCESS AND ALSO SEND THE WRONG MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY INCLUDING THOSE FINANCE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE TRYING TO MOVE HERE, INVEST HERE AND MAKE TAMPA A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK. SO I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. AGAIN, YOU RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM ME AS WELL AS SOME OTHER FOLKS OUTLINING THOSE ISSUES IN MORE DETAIL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THE SECOND FLO? >> NO MARE SPEAKER AT THIS TIME. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. GENTLEMEN WE WILL GO AHEAD -- WE ALREADY CONTINUED ITEMS NUMBER 2 AND 3. GO TO ITEM NUMBER 4. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED MR. SHELBY. MISS ZELMAN IS HERE. YES SIR. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: GOOD MORNING, ANDREW ZELMAN, ASSISTANT DEPUTY ATTORNEY. MR. SHELBY ASKED THAT I BE HERE JUST TO REMIND YOU ALL. BACK IN APRIL WHEN GOVERNOR DeSANTIS ISSUED 2194 EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT EXTENDED THE STATEWIDE COVID STATE OF EMERGENCY THAT BEGAN MARCH 9 OF 2020. THAT ORDER, 21-94 EXTENDED THE STATEWIDE STATE OF EMERGENCY FOR AN ADDITIONAL 60 DAYS. AT THAT TIME THE GOVERNOR INCLUDED LANGUAGE IN THE ORDER TO HAVE THE LAST EXTENSION. THE STWIT REPAIR TO RESUME NONEMERGENCY OPERATIONS. HE HAS MADE OTHER COMMENTS IN PUBLIC INDICATING THAT HE WOULD NOT EXTEND THE STATEWIDE STATE OF EMERGENCY AFTER THIS WEEKEND. OF COURSE WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE KNOW CONTACTED MARLEY WILKES TO CONTACT OTHERS IN TALLAHASSEE AND WILL LET THE EMERGENCY ORDER TO EXPIRE. AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO LOCALLY DERIVE FROM AND FLOW DOWN FROM OUR BEING FOR A STATEWIDE STATE OF EMERGENCY IN EFFECT. SO, AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU THAT. FRIDAY NIGHT AND THE STATEWIDE EMERGENCY WILL EXPIRE AND WITH THAT, I WILL LET MR. SHELBY FOLLOW UP. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, HIS ZELMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY ATTORNEY. 2020-241 THAT THE EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURES FOR THE CONDUCT OF MEETINGS WITH THE USE OF COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR CMT TERMINATE AUTOMATICALLY WHEN THE GOV GOVERNOR'S DECLARATION OF THE STATE OF EMERGENCY RELATING TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC EXPIRES. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUES QUESTIONS GENTLEMEN? SO MR. SHELBY, GO BACK TO THE LECTERN PLEASE. SO DURING OUR CONVERSATION, THAT TELLS ME WHEN IT EXPIRES, WE ARE BACK TO BUSINESS AS USUAL CORRECT? >>MARTIN SHELBY: AS YOUR RULES OPERATE AUTOMATICALLY, YES, SIR, THAT IS TRUE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY COU COUNCILMEMBER WANT TO CHIME ON. IF IT EXPIRES I WILL CONSTRUCT MR. SHELBY AND THE MAINTENANCE TO GO AHEAD, AND WE GO BACK TO BUSINESS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF IS THE CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL. WE WILL DETERMINE WHAT HAPPENS ON SATURDAY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. ANYBODY WANT TO SAY OR ADD AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT BECAUSE WHEN IT EXPIRES I WILL TELL MR. SHELBY FOR STAFF TO GO B BACK. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: WE NEED TO GET BACK TO REGULAR RULES AND BUSINESS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BACK TO NORMAL AS THINGS WORK. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO, I THINK WE HAD SOME -- SOME INTERESTING DEVELOPMENTS IN TERMS OF OUR PROCESS AND PROCEDURE THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THIS, YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE TRAGIC EMERGENCY THAT FOA YEAR AND A HALF.OLVED IN SPECIFICALLY IN TERMS OF PUBLIC COMMENT. THE -- YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, IF FOLKS WANTED TO GIVE US COMMENT, THEY HAD TO COME DOWN HERE AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WAIT FOR HALF HOUR, HOUR OR MORE TO PROVIDE COMMENT DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY WOULD COMMENT ON. IN THE INTERIM, WE DEVELOPED VARIOUS PROCESSES THAT ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO COMMENT TELEPHONICALLY OR IN THE CASES -- IN THE CASE OF OUR ZONING CASES THEY ARE ABLE TO COME IN THROUGH THE VIDEO OR ZOOM PROCESS. AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE JUST SAY LET'S GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE. BECAUSE IN THIS AGE OF TECHNOLOGY, YOU KNOW, THAT -- THAT PROVIDES THE COMMUNITY A A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO GIVE US INPUT. WHETHER OR NOT IT IS LEGISLATIVE OR ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS OR -- OR, LIKE I SAID WITH REZONINGS. SO -- YOU KNOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO WHEN AND HOW YOU MIGHT WANT TO ADDRESS THAT, AND MR. SHELBY PROCEDURALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO MODIFY OUR RULES TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, THAT OR IF TH ARELREA CODIFIED AND PERMANENT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY ARE. OFF RESOLUTION CREATED SPECIFICALLY PURSUANT TO THE STATE OF EMERGENCY. AND THOSE RULES AS YOU HAVE BEEN OPERATING USES CMT AUTOMATICALLY EXPIRE UPON THE EXPIRATION OF THE STATE OF EMERGENCY, AND YOU REVERT BACK TO THE RULES OF PROCEDURES AS PREVIOUSLY EXISTED BEFORE THE STATE OF EMERGENCY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS MY POINT. I THINK SOME OF THOSE RULES THAT WE HAD ADOPTED AS AN INTERIM IN A TEMPORARY MEASURE THAT DO ENCOURAGE AND FACILITATED,OU KNOW, ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD BE KEPT IN FORCE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND I THINK THAT -- THAT IS A VERY HEALTHY DISCUSSION FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THIS COUNCIL TO HAVE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEEDS SIR. DISCUSSION IS GOOD. I DON'T A PROBLEM WITH THAT. WHEN THE ORDER EXPIRES REMEMBER WE ARE BACK TO BUSINESS. IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE THINGS THAT WE IMPLEMENTED TO BE A VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM LETTING UNCI DISCUSSION IT. MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECO RECOGNIZED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY AND THE STATE F EMERGENCY AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE THAT HAS BEEN INCURRED TECHNOLOGICALLY AND ALSO WITH REGARD TO STAFF TIME AND RESOURCES. FOR INSTANCE, THE TNI DEPARTMENT HAS -- HAS EXERTED A LOT OF EFFORTS TO KEEP THIS UP AND RUNNING AND IT IS CERTAINLY UP WORTHY OF DISCUSSION BUT ALSO IT COMES WITH SOME COST. IN ADDITION THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF THE LENH OF YOUR MEETINGS AND LENGTH OF YOUR REZONINGS AND JUST IN KEEP IN MIND THE USE OF CMT, WE HAVE LEARNED, ADDS TIME, PHYSICAL LENGTH OF TIME TO THE CONDUCT OF YOUR MEETINGS WHICH IMPACTS YOUR ABILITY TO WORK THROUGHOUT CASES. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I AM NOT TAKING A POSITION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT JUST TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION TODAY WHEN THE STATE OF EMERGENCY EXPIRES, DO SO YOUR RULES OF PROCEDURES GOVERNING THE USE OF CMT AND AGAIN TODAY MEETI IS THE LAST MEETING BEFORE COUNCIL RESUMES ON JULY 15. SO WE JUST HAVE TO GOVERN OURSELVES ACCORDINGLY UNLESS COUNCIL WISHES TO TAKE SPECIFIC DIRECTION TODAY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU RECOGNIZED, SIR, AND MR. VIERA. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL REFER TO LUIS BECAUSE I ALREADY SPOKE AND CIRCLE BACK AND RESPOND TO MR. SHELBY'S COMMENTS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: I HEARD SOME OF IT AND I HAD TO TAKE A CALL ON A CONSTITUENT MATTER AND I WAS OVERHEARING IT. ONE -- I SHOULDN'T SPEAK BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD THE FULL DCUSSN BU KNOWING THE TOPIC. I DON'T KNOW WHERE COUNCIL AND MAJORITY IS INCLINED TO GO WITH THIS ON. MR. SHELBY'S POINT ON TIME W WHANOT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE WELL TAKEN. COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN. SOMETHING WE MAY CONSIDER AND I PUT THIS OUT HERE IF YOU APPEAR VIRTUALLY IS FOR LESS TIME, JUST SO WE DON'T -- JUST TO ADDRESS THE TIME ISSUE SO THE PEOPLE CAN STILL HAVE ACCESS, RIGHT, FOR SOME MORE TIME IN THE FUTURE. JUST SOMETHING I THOUGHT OF WITHOUT LISTENING TO THE FULL CONVERSATION. JUST NEVER A SMART THING TO . >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY? >>MARTIN SHELBY: CERTAINLY THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A BRIEF CONVERSATION AND MAYBE TAKE IT UP IN A FUTURE TIME, BUT I HAVE BEEN WORKING AND MISS WELLS IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS. THE USE OF CMT ALSO RAISES A LOT OF DEW POINT ISSUES. AND ISSUES THAT WE HAVE NOT CONFRONTED RELATIVE TO QUASI JUDICIAL MATTERS WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH IF IN FACT WE DO CONTINUE THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE ISSUES THAT HAVE REVEALED THEMSELVES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER AND THEN I WILL COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE -- THE -- I KNOW IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT THAT WE ARE HERE TO REPRESENT OUR CONSTITUENTS, OKAY. AND THEY COME IN ALL FORM -- ALL SHAPES AND FORMS AND SIZES, OKAY. BUT THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE. WE ARE NOT HERE TO CONVENIENCE OURSELVES OKAY. IF ANYTHING, WE SHOULD BE HERE TO CONVENES OUR CONSTUENTS. IT HAS BEEN CLEARLY SHOWN THE CON VIS YENS OF THE CONST CONSTITUENTS IN MANY, MANY OCCASIONS TO STAY HOME AND USE CMT. NOW FRANKLY I WILL BE THE FIRST ONE TO TELL THOSE CONSTITUENTS IF THEY WANT TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE, THEY SHOULD ACTUALLY COME DOWN TO CITY HALL, BECAUSE STANDING AT THAT PODIUM IS MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE ADVOCACY THAN STAYING AT HOME. BUT THAT IS NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. THAT IS JUST MY OPINION. BUT THE REALITY -- THE REALITY IS, IN MY -- IN MY HUMBLE OPINION. I THINK THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN A CHOICE. THEY -- WE HAVE CLEARLY SEEN THAT MANY, MANY PEOPLE AND GIVEN OPINIONS IF GIVEN THE CMT OPTION. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. WHAT THE ENTIRE PUBLIC PROCESS AND NOTICE AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS ABOUT. NOT JUST FEEL GOOD NOT JUST THAT WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE PEOPLE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA BUT BECAUSE WE NEED THAT FEEDBACK TO DO OUR JOB. AND I FEEL -- I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, THAT CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG. AND PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT. I THINK TO TAKE IT AWAY, JUST BECAUSE, QUOTE, THE GOVERNOR SAYS THE EMERGENCY IS DONE OR WHAT HAVE YOU, I THINK IT IS JUST WRONG. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE? WELL, MR. SHELBY, WHAT I WOULD ASK TO YOU DO IS GET WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND REFERENCE TO THE FACTORS INVOLVED WITH CONTINUING A PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION WITH THE CMT AND GET WITH ALL COUNCILMEMBERS. SO WE DON'T HAVE A HUGE DISCUSSION TO BRING THAT BACK THAT WAS NARROWED DOWN AND TAILORED DOWN. I ALWAYS LIKE TO HEAR EVE EVERYONE'S OPINION, BUT MR. DINGFELDER DOES HAVE A POINT. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE C CARS. I HEAR THAT SOMETIMES. I CAN'T GET DOWN THERE. AND UNFORTUNATELY, COVID DID GIVE FOLKS AN OPTION TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL. SO I AM OPEN, BUT LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN TAYLOR IT. GET WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. AND THEN GET WITH THE COUNCILMEMBERS AND BRING IT BACK FOR A BRIEF DISCUSSION AND WE WILL TAKE IT UP FROM HERE. WE NEED TO MOVE ON FROM THIS POINT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT IF THE -- IF THE STATE OF EMERGENCY BY OPERATION OF YOUR RESOLUTION AND BY OPERATION OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE AND THEESOLION ADOPTED, IF ON SATURDAY, THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER IS NOT EXTENDED, THEN YOU WOULD BE OPERATING AS A MATTER OF PROCEDURE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND THAT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE WILL NOT BE TOGETHER UNTIL THE 15th. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDER STANDS THAT. IF IT HITS ON SATURDAY, WE ARE BACK TO BUSINESS AS USUAL. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN THE MEANTIME. >>ORLANDO GUDES: IN THE M MEANTIME -- IF IT ENDS, WE ARE BACK TO BUSINESS. ONE OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE RAISED A QUESTION FOR DISCUSSION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO INSTRUCT YOU TO GET WI THE ADMINISTRATION, TO GET TO COUNCILMEMBERS AND BRING THAT BACK FOR A BRIEF DISCUSSION IF WE NEED TO CHANGE HOW WE DO BUSINESS IN THIS HOUSE OR CHANGE OUR RESOLUTION AND CHANGE OUR ORDINANCE AS RULES AND PROCEDURES, WE WILL DO THAT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, SIR. >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDER STOOD. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL RESPECTFULLY PROPOSE A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. I PROPOSE THAT WE LEAVE A STATUS QUO. BY MOTION -- I WILL MAKE THE MOTION RIGHT NOW THAT WE MODIFY OUR RULES AT LEAST ON TEMPORARY BASIS TO LEAVE THE STATUS QUO. TO LEAVE THE CMT IN PLACE UNTIL WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT WHICH POINT WE WOULD EITHER MODIFY GOING TO BE GOING AWAY THAT I THINK AT LEAST ON A TEMPORARY BASIS -- WE HAVE GIVEN NO NOTICE TO THE COMMUNITY WHATSOEVER. I JUST GOT A TEXT FROM SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY SAYING, THIS WASN'T EVEN ON THE AGENDA. I UNDERSTAND WHY IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE HAVE JUST BEEN HEARING ABOUT IT FROM THE GOVERNOR OKAY. BUT IT IS NOT EVEN ON THE AGENDA AND ALL OF A SUDDEN CHANGE THE RULES OF THE GAME AND COME BACK MID-JULY AND ALL OF A SUDDEN PEOPLE THINK THEY WILL PARTICIPATE FROM HOME AND THEY ARE NOT. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ZONING HEARINGS THAT THE THOUGHT THEY COULD PARTICIPATE. AND THEY CAN'T. I THINK THE MORE PRUDENT APPROACH WOULD BE TO LEAVE WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TEMPORARILY UNTIL WE CAN HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. NOT TURN OFF THE SWITCH RIGHT NOW WITHOUT HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T THINK SO WE CAN. MR. SHELBY, I HAVE TO DETERMINATE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S ASK MR. SHELBY PROCEDURALLY. YOU HEAR WHAT I AM SAYING, MARTIN. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AM I -- WE CONTROL OUR RULES. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE THE ABILITY, I THINK, TO MODIFY THOSE RULES AND ALLOW CMT EVEN WITHOUT THE GOVERNOR'S PETITION MISSION OF EMERGENCY POWERS. DON'T WE? >>MARTIN SHELBY: AS OF RIGHT NOW I HAVE NOT RESEARCHED IT SEEING WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS WITH REGARD TO THAT. I WAS OPERATING UNDER THE STATE OF EMERGENCY RULES AS THEY EXISTED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE SOMETHING THAT YOU AND MISS ZELMAN CAN LOOK AT AND WE CAN GET BACK TO IT TONIGHT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: PERHAPS. BUT YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF POSSIBLE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS MY MOTION TO BE ABLE TO DO IS IT IF POSSIBLE, IF LEGALLY POSSLE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL. >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL SECOND IT, IF I MAY, THAT MOTION. I THINK IT IS WELL TAKEN BECAUSE IT IS CORRECT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS IS BEING TAKEN AWAY AND TO M MERELY EXTEND THAT RIGHT UNTIL WE ADDRESS THE ISSUE. EITHER ADDRESS IT BY TAKING AWAY DOING A COMPROMISE OR TAKING IT AWAY AS IS. OGHT TO BE BETTER NOTICE FOR FOLKS THAT ARE REASONABLY RELYING ON THAT. AND WE SHOULD PROMPTLY HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN THE M MEANWHILE, BUT I AM GLAD TO SECOND THAT. I THINK THAT IS WELL TAKEN, I WOULD SAY. >> MR. SHELBY, WE WILL NOT TURN THAT OVER UNTIL TONIGHT. IF THAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THE DECISION NOW TO MOVE TONIGHT AGENDA IF THAT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL. MR. DINGFELDER, IF YOU WANT TO PUT THAT MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IF YOU WANT TO PUT THAT MOTION ON THE FLOOR NOW AND TAKE THE VOTE AND GO FROM THERE AND WE WILL MOVE ON. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TIME FLEXIBLE TO PUT IT OFF UNTIL TONIGHT SO WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT LEGAL INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE. MR. SHELBY INDICATED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THERE IS A LEGAL IMPEDIMENT, I ASSURE YOU I WILL INFORM COUNCIL. JOHNINGFELDER: A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND MR. CHAIRMAN, AS YOU WISH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER HAS MADE A MOTION MR. VIERA SECONDED IT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I CAME IN BETWEEN THE DISCUSSIONS HERE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NUMBER 4 ON THE 5% AND 10%? >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, SIR. MR. SHELBY CAME UP TO TALK WITH MISS ZELMAN OF THE EXECUTIVE ORDER -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT PART I HEARD. THE GOVERNOR DECIDED WE HAVE UNTIL SATURDAY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT I AM PROPOSING ON A TEMPORARY BASIS, MR. MIRANDA, IS THATE LEAVE THAT -- WE LEAVE THE COMMUNITY WITH THE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HEARD THAT PART. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT IS THE MOTION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MR. DINGFELDER AND SECOND BY MR. VIERA. TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: NO. >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I SAY THIS IN JEST -- AND IT IS AN OLD SAYING FROM SOME OF MY BROTHERS THAT SAY IF YOU WANT TO GET SOMETHING DONE, TELEPHONE, TELEGRAPH, -- ALL OF US AND ALL OF OUR LEGISLATIVE AIDES READ HUNDREDS OF E-MAILS FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS. WE ANSWER HUNDREDS OF PHONE CALLS FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS AND HAVE BEEN, EVEN DURING THE PANDEMIC. I AM -- I AM GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO VOTE YES ON IT. MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON, CITRO AND MIRANDA VOTING NO. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE END UP DELAYING -- MARTY, IF WE END UP DELAYING OR CONTINUING THIS, I FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE SHOULD ONLY DO VIDEO AND AUDIO CMT, NOT SWITCH BACK AND FORTH. I KNOW IT IS MORE LABOR INTENSIVE, BUT AS MR. CITRO SAID, IT IS NOT TO EDUCATE US BECAUSE WE TAKE HUNDREDS OF CALLS AND E-MAILS A WEEK. THE PURPOSE IS FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC THROUGH THIS PLATFORM, AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO -- IF CMT IS A PROXY FOR BEING HERE IN PERSON THAN WE SHOULD LOOK LIKE AS IF IT SHOULD BE THE SAME AS IF SOMEONE IS HERE IN PERSON WHICH IS AUDIO A VIDEO. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MOVING RIGHT ALONG, ITEM 4. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER AND MIRANDA'S. LEGAL TO SPEAK ON THAT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK I CAN CUT THIS SHORT FOR EVERYBODY'S BENEFIT SINCE THIS WAS MY MOTION. AND IF MR. MIRANDA DIFFERS, I AM. I THOUGHT THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA. STAFF HAS RESPONDED TO US AND SAID THAT IT WOULDN'T REALLY CHANGE IT -- MUCH OF ANYTHING ESPECIALLY AT THE 5% LEVEL. THE -- THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN TO THIS AND SEEMS TO BE WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGAINST THIS IDEA AND THEY JUST WANT TO LEAVE THE STATUS QUO IN TERMS OF THE REZONINGS -- YOU KNOW THE REZONINGS AND LOT SPLITS AND THAT SORT OF THING. THEY TOLD US TT -- THEY LIKE WHAT IT IS AND WOULD LIKE TO COME TO COUNCIL AND TELL US WHY THEY LIKE OR DON'T LIKE THE PARTICULAR LOT SPLITS. WITH THAT, I AM NOT -- I AM NO LONGER IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 4, AND WOULD JUST MOVE TO STRIKE IT. BUT OBVIOUSLY IF THERE ARE FOLKS TO SPEAK TO IT, THAT IS FINE TOO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM FROM STAFF? >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. ABBYE FEELEY. WE DID BRING THIS ITEM PER THE MOTION OF COUNCIL TO A WORKSHOP ON MAY 25. AND WE HAD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THERE IN RELATION TO THAT. WE WERE DIRECTED BY COUNCIL TO PRESENT THIS AS OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION ON JUNE 7 WHICH WE DID. WE DID RECEIVE SEVERAL COM COMMENTS. AND I DID JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY REPORT ON THAT. SO IF I COULD POSSIBLY SHARE MY SCREEN. I HAVE TWO QUICK SLIDES I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU. WE HAD. DO I NEED TO GET PERMISSION TO SHARE MY SCREEN? . >>ORLANDO GUDES: I.T., CAN YOU HELP HER SHARE HER SCREEN? THANK YOU. CAN YOU CRA MY SCREEN? WONDERFUL. SO I JUST WANTED TO REPORT BACK ONHE PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION BRIEFLY. WE DID HAVE 31 REGISTRANTS AND WE HAD 29 ATTENDEES. WE WERE ASKED TO TAKE THE TEMPERATURE AND KIND OF GAUGE THE BAROMETER ON WHERE PEOPLE WERE. WE HAD FIVE ATTENDEES DIRECTLY COMMENT WHEN WE BROUGHT THE ITEM UP AND YOU CAN SEE THE COMMENTS THERE. 5% OF THE SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT WILL ALLOW FOR A 54 FEET AND ONE IN SUPPORT OF THE 5% H NO DIRECT COMMENT AND WE HAD TWO PARTICIPANTS TO INDICATED THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF THE 150%. SO I WANTED TO BRIEFLY REPORT ON THAT AND AT THE WORKSHOP PRESENTED 22 CASES IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. 12 OF THEM WERE EUCLIDIAN AND WENT FROM AN RS-60 TO A RS-50. SO OF THE 12 EUCLIDIANS OF THE 10% GRANTED BY COUNCIL. AND IN RELATION TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. 2% WERE WITHIN 10% OF THE LOT WIDTH FIREFIGHTER FIVE WERE WITHIN 5% OF THE LOT AREA A 50 X 98 LOT WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE THE DEPTH AND THEY HAVE THE AREA AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER ASKED IF WE COULD REPORT ON 22 AND I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BREAKDOWN ON THAT AS WELL. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUES QUESTIONS GENTLEMEN? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT YOU, ABBYE AND YOUR TEAM PUT IN TO REFILE THAT TO ITEM NUMBER 4. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BRING UP SOME ITEMS. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT MISS ABBYE IS SPEAKING ABOUT WITH PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,EVENOOTFOOT SET SETBACK, RIGHT, ASSUMING THAT IS WHAT IT IS, CORRECT. YOU HAVE SEVEN-FOOT SETBACK AND 84 INCHES. YOU HAVE 5% OF 84 INCHES, COME DOWN TO 4.2 INCHES. THE 10% LOT WIDTH 10% OF WHAT, 84 INCHES WHICH WOULD BE 8.4 INCHES. SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INCHES HERE. AND SOMETIMES HALF AN INCH OR 4/10 OF AN INCH. WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT 5% OF THE TOTAL LOT WIDTH OF AN AREA. A BUILDABLE LOT IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET IN SOME AREAS. DEPENDS ON WHAT THE SIZE OF THE AREA IS IN DIFFERENT AREAS AND 5% OF SOMETHING AND THAT WILL BE 500 SQUARE FEET OF 10% AND 5% WOULD BE 250 SQUARE FEET OF THAT LOT. AND SOME AREAS YOU HAVE LOTS THAT ARE -- NOT DECIDE AND I MENTION AND HEARD 98 FEET DEEP. AND THIS HAPPENS IN A LOT OF AREAS AND SOME LIKE THAT IN WEST TAMPA AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. SO BEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE, YOU HAVE 100 FOOT WIDTH WITH 98-FOOT DEPTH AND IT WAS ZONED THAT WAY YEARS BACK AND SOMETIMES THERE IS A HOUSE OR TWO. SOMETIMES IT IS ONLY ONE HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LOT. SO A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT. AND I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THE SAYING I GIVE UP. BUT I DON'T GIVE UP. IT DOESN'T MATTER. AND IT IS ABOUT WHERE DO WE WANT TO GO. AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TALKING AOUT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE? MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ASKED FOR A MION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RECEIVE AND FILE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND FROM MR. MANISCALCO. ANY FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. >>ABBYE FEELEY: JUST BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT THIS DISCUSSION, IN RELATION TO THE CREATION OF IT WE WOULD NOT BE BRINGING ANYTHING BACK TO YOU AND THAT MATTER WOULD BE CLOSED AT THIS TIME. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE MOTION. THANK YOU. >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 5. >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT. COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY INTRODUCE ITEM NUMBER 5. THIS ITEM IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT. THE APPLICANT THIS REQUEST HAS BEEN IN THE PRIVATELY INITIATED, THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH A BACKGROUND REGARDING THIS REQUEST AND THEY WILL ALSO MAKE THE PRESENTATION TODAY. ALSO, COUNCIL, I AM ON THE LINE. I AM AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO STEVE MICHELINI. HE IS IN PERN AND I BELIEVE HE IS ON THE SECOND FLOOR. HE IS READY TO START HIS PRESENTATION. AND COUNCIL, I THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD MORNING COUNCIL. STEVE MICHELINI. THESE TEXT AMENDMENTS STARTED OFF A LITTLE OVER FOUR YEARS AGO, AND THEY CAME ABOUT FROM A SERIES OF MEETINGS WITH THE CITY STAFF -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND, STEVE, AND I APOLOGIZE. AS I LOOK AROUND AT MY DESK IN FRONT OF ME, MR. CITRO, MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. MIRANDA -- WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MR. MIRANDA. MR. MIRANDA LOOKS LIKE HE HAS IT. I DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENT THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN FRONT OF ME, IN TERMS OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY CRITICAL THAT IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TEXT AMENDMENTS -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T HAVE IT EITHER. I WAS LOOKING AT SOMETHING ELSE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYWAY, WE ARE SORT OF AT A DISADVANTAGE. MAYBE WE CAN SKIP THAT ITEM, STEVE, UNTIL SOMEBODY CAN GIVE US COPIES OF YOUR PROPOSED CHNGES AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TOT, MR. CHAIRMAN? >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WOULD BE FINE. WE DON'T HAVE IN THE FRONT OF US, AND HE'S TRYING TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING TO TO US. CAN YOU STICK AROUND? MAYBE WE'LL GET STAFF TO GET US A COPY OF WHAT YOU HAVE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT. >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR. I WILL BE HAPPY TO THANK YOU, SIR. WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 6. >>VIK BHIDE: DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN WE GET THE VOLUME UP A LITTLE BIT HERE? ONE SECOND, MR. BHIDE. TRY IT NOW. >>VIK BHIDE: CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>ORLANDO GUDES: GO AHEAD. >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU. SO I AM HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 6, MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND CITRO. REGARDING A REQUEST FROM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO STUDY THE POSSIBILITY OF INSTALLING CROSSWALKS PARTICULARLY AROUND SCHOOLS. AGAIN, I THANK YOU, COU, FOR BRINGING THIS UP AGAIN. IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AROUND SIDEWALKS. HE HAS BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, AND WE WILL BE PRESENTING, AND IF I COULD SHARE MY SCREEN. AND CAN YOU SEE THE PRESENTATION? CAN YOU ALL SEE THE SLIDE? >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES. >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC, CERTAINLY. AS WE HEARD FROM REPRESENTATIVE EARLIER TODAY SHE MENTIONED IMPORTANCE OF PARTNERSHIPS AND WHAT ACCESS OF OUR PROGRAM WE CAN IMPROVE THROUGH BETTER PARTNERSHIPS. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE ONE SEVERAL INITIATIVES FOR PARTNERS. THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE MPO AND TG WORK PROGRAM, THE MPO BOARD AND SOME OF YOU AS WELL HAVE THE MPO STUDIES SCHOOL SAFETY AND THE NEED FOR SIDEWALK, WHICH IS BUILDING UPON AN EFFORT THAT HAS ALREADY STARTED, AND SO WE WILL BE INITIATING THAT WITH THE MPO, SO THE TIMING OF THIS MOTION IS GREAT. ALSO, WE HEARD THROUGH THE COMMUNITY LIKE SIDEWALKS NUMBERS THAT WE SHOULD WORK WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM TO SHARE DATA. I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN AN EFFORT UNDERWAY ALONG OUR VISION COORDINATOR IS WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND WORKING WITH MOU THAT WILL ALLOW US TO SHARE DATA WITH SCHOOLS BETTER TO UNDERSTAND NEEDS BY INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS RATHER THAN HAVING ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH. WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE COUNTY, AND COORDINATING SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL PROGRAM, AND OTHER SIDEWALK IMPROVING LOCATIONS AS WELL, AND OF COURSE WE CONTINUES TO WORK WITH FDOT, DISTRICT 7 RECENTLY APPOINTED A SAFETY AMBASSADOR WHOSE SOLE FOCUS IS ELEVATING SAFETY NEEDS, PARTICULARLY WALK/BIKE NEEDS UP TO THE DISTRICT LEVEL AND WE MET WITH THAT TEAM YESTERDAY. SO WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS. WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH OUR STATE AS WELL AS FEDER REPRESENTATIVES TO BRING FORTH THE ISSUES AND CRITICAL NEEDS AROUND SIDEWALKS TO THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONVENING PARTNERSHIPS IN THAT AREA. I AM GOING TO WALK THROUGH VARIOUS INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE BEEN UNDERTAKING FOR SIDEWALKS, PARTICULARLY AROUND SCHOOLS. TH I JUST MENTIONED.IONS THAT FROM A GUIDANCE PERSPECTIVE, IT STARTS WITH THE UNIFORM CONTROL DEVICES THAT RECOMMENDATIONS OR TREATMENTS OF SCHOOL ROUTES, PARTICULARLY WALK ROUTES. SO THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA THAT THIS IS A BROAD SENSE, WE ARE ASKING YOU TO WORK THROUGH THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CITY TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS TO SEE IF WE CAN GET BTER DOCUMENTS FROM THE MOU THAT FOCUSES ON BIKE AND WALK ISSUES. SO WE ARE PART OF THIS MOVEMENT ALONG WITH OVER 100 CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND REQUESTING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO RECONSIDER THE MANUAL. SOME OF OUR KEY INITIATIVES THAT BRING SAFETY PARTICULARLY IN SCHOOL AREAS ARE LISTED HERE, AND WE WILL WALK THROUGH ALL OF THEM. PLEASE KNOW THAT ALL OF OUR PRIORITIES, PARTICULARLY IN THE MOVE PROGRAM, SCHOOL RESULTS ARE AT THE HIGHEST PRIORITY. SO THIS IS WHAT WE DID THROUGH THE PANDEMIC THE GOAL OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO BRAFF SAFETY PARTICULARLY IN OUR NEIGORHOS A IN SOME CASES OUR COLLECTOR ROADS AS WELL. WE PRIORITIZED SCHOOLS. WE LOOKED AT CRASHES, PARKS, ALSO WHY CHILDREN FREQUENT, AND OF COURSE WE LOOKED AT OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT AUGMENT THE 4-WAY STOP INSTALLATION. WE HEARD AN EXAMPLE OF THAT AS WELL. THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN RECEIVED PRETTY WELL BY THE COMMUNITY, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO SUPPORT THIS THROUGH OUR PROAM. HAVE THE CROSSWALK PROGRAM @WHEF CROSSWALK LOCATIONS WHERE SCHOOL WALKABILITY AND ALSO AWARENESS OF MOTORISTS AND OTHER MODES OF TRANSPORTATION PEDESTRIANS WITHIN THE WALKWAY, THROUGH SIGNAGE, THROUGH APPROPRIATE PLACEMENT OF THE CROSSWALK, AND AGAIN WE PRIORITIZE SCHOOLS, WE LOOK AT CRASHES, PARKS AND OTHER AREAS. BUT SCHOOLS ARE ALWAYS THE HIGHER PRIORITY. RECENT IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE MADE NEAR SCHOO, ALEXANDER ELEMENTARY AND SHAW ELEMENTARY, AGAIN, EVERYTHING FROM NEW CROSSWALKS, ACCESS, AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THESE INITIATIVES. ALSO, WE HAVE, AS YOU ARE AWARE, CROSSWALKS TO CLASSROOMS PROGRAM, THIS IS VERY POPULAR. WE REQUEST REQUESTS FROM MANY SCHOOLS TO HAVE THIS INSTITUTED IN THEIR SCHOOLS, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO EVERY SCHOOL IN THE CITY SHOULD THE FUNDING A LAO THT THIS INCREASES PARTICIPATION FOR OUR STUDENTS, FOR OUR CHILDREN, AND ALSO INCLUDES ACCESS WHILE WE DO THAT. WE WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE THIS PROGRAM, AS I SAID, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. WE HAVE ALSO DEVELOPED THE MOVES AND ACCESS. HERE ARE SOME OF THE OTHER CRITERIA ITEMS AS WELL. WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE MOVES PROGRAM, ADDING ENGINEERING AND OTHER LAYERS ON TOP OF IT, KNOWLEDGE, TO REALLY PRIORITIZE BASED ON THE VULNERABLE FIRST AND SCHOOLS CERTAINLY MATCH THAT CRITERIA. OUR SIDEWALK PROGRAM IS ALSO MORE OF A REACTIVE TO A PROACTIVE APPROACH. PRIMILY IT'SE HISTORICALLY WE ACTED TO COMPLAINTS. AND SO WHAT HAPPENED ALMOST ASYMMETRIC, HEARD FROM CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM IN THE PAST, DID NOT GET AS MUCH WORK, LIKE YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT HERE. SO WE DO HAVE THE SIDEWALK TO SCHOOL PROGRAM IN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA, BUT ALSO HOW WE CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE BASED ON NEEDS AND BED ON THE HIGHEST USE RATHER THAN JUST RESPONDING BASED ON COMPLAINTS. AGAIN, THE STATE REQUIREMENT THAT WITHIN A COUPLE OF YEARS, BY 2023, ALL SCHOOLS NEED TO HAVE CERTAIN TYPES OF SIGNAGE, MARKINGS, AND FLASHERS TO MEET STATE STANDARDS. SO THIS PROGRAM AS WELL WITHUR FINDINGS. I MENTIONED SAFE ROUTE TO SCHOOLS. OUR FIRST BIG PROJECT IS GOING TO BE SULPHUR SPRINGS. THIS WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE PREVIOUS VERSION OF THE MPO STUDY. WE ARE NOW UPDATING THAT STUDY TO TODAY'S REALITY, AND NEW INFORMATION AND NEEDS AND METHODS THAT WE HAVE. THAT WOULD BE THE PLANNING WORK PROGRAM THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION. AGAIN, PARTNER WITH THE STATE WHERE WE CAN AND MAXIMIZE OUR LIMITED DOLLARS. FINALLY, IN CLOSING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SOME STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS TOWARD THIS MOTION, AND THAT WOULD BE TO CONTINUE A MAJORITY OF OUR PROGRAMS. THESE PROGRAMS ARE WELL RESEARCHED, THEY ARE WELL COORDINATED, AND BRING PARTNERS AS WELL, AND THEY WILL BE A BENEFIT AS WE MOVE ALONG, AND FUNDING, WE ARE ALWAYS IN NEED OF FUNDING, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO COUNCIL SUPPORT WITH REFERENDUM AND ANY INITIATIVES, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS IN THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AT THIS POINT, I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS? MR. CARLSON, RECOGNIZED, SIR. >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR THE ANALYSIS AND ALL THE WORK YOU DO. I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN ALLOCATE THE MONEYASTE THE COMMUNITY IS DEMANDING THAT WE DO THIS RIGHT AWAY, THAT IT'S UNSAFE TO WALK TO AND FROM SCHOOLS. AND PART OF THIS ALSO WAS THAT THERE ARE HOUSE AS CROSS FROM SCHOOLS THAT ALLEGEDLY PEOPLE ARE REFUSING TO PUT SIDEWALKS IN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND THEN BECAUSE OF THAT WE CAN'T BUILD A CROSSWALK. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN JUST PUT SIDEWALKS IN THE SO WE CAN PUT CROSSWALKS IN? THANK YOU. >>VIK BHIDE: THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. AND WE ARE LOOKING AT WAYS TO LOOK AT EXISTING FUNDING BUT ALSO NEW OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF SIDEWALKS, OR AT LEAST -- THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THERE ARE A FEW THINGS WE HAVE DONE SPECIFICALLY, THE FIRST WITHIN OUR OWN BUDGET FY 22. AGAIN WE HAVE WORKED WITH OUR VISION COORDINATOR AND TRANSPORTATION AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO IDENTIFY A QUICK BUILD PROGRAM. AND WHAT THIS QUICK BUILD PROGRAM DOES IS CHOOSES TAKER MATERIAL, THAT ARE STILL CONSPICUOUS, BUT THAT ALLOW US TO DO MORE THAN ONE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION AS COMPARED TO ... AND ALL OF THAT. AND WITH THAT, OUR FOCUS IS ING TO BE THOSE TWO WILL BE OUR FOCUS AREAS, AND AGAIN WE ARE PARTNERING TO SEE IF WE CAN MAXIMIZE NOT JUST THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE, BUT MAYBE GET SOME STATE DOLLARS AS WELL TO IMPROVE OUR OUTCOMES. THE OTHER THING THAT WE ARE DOING -- AND WEAVED THIS DISCUSSION A COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK REGARDING OUR SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE, AND OUR CODE, SIDEWALK INSTALLATION FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTSS, AND WE DO STAND BY O RECOMMENDATION, UPDATING IN-LIEU FEES, AND AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP WHEN THAT IS COMING UP, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHEN IT IS BUT IT IS LATER IN THE YEAR, WE WILL HAVE OUR FINAL SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH WILL ALSO MOVE THE BALL FORWARD ON GETTING MORE SIDEWALKS OUT THERE. WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS THERE AS WELL, COMMUNITY PARTNERS AS WELL AS REGIONAL PARTNERS. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR. >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW IT'S FUNNY, WHENEVER I HEAR REPORTS LIKE THIS, I WILL BEONES NUMBER ONE, VIK, I ALWAYS HAVE JUST A THANKFULNESS FOR YOUR WORK, I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK ABOUT YOU, YOU'RE A GOOD GUY, YOU'RE A PROFESSIONAL, BUT ALMOST 3 IN 5 VOTERS VOTED ON RAISING TAXES,. WELL, VOTERS GAVE THEM THAT IN 2018, THREE OUT OF FIVE, REPUBLICANS DEMOCRATS INDEPENDENTS, AREAS LIKE A SUBURB VOTED ALMOST 2 TO 1 FOR TRANSPORTATION. THEY VOTED FOR THINGS LIKE THIS. AND WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE VAST DEFICIT THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY AND THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNTY, ET CETERA, ON ISSUES, FOR DIGNITY AND SAFETY, IT BLOWS YOUR MIND. IT BLOWS YOUR MIND ON HOW MUCH OF THAT NOW IS BEING TRULY TAKEN AWAY FROM US AND NOW WE HAVE TO WAIT TO POTENTIALLY NOVEMBER OF 2022 TO TAKE A LOOK AT REVENUE. SEEING THIS IN LIGHT OF THE PUBLIC BIPARTISAN -- I SAY BIPARTISAN BECAUSE WE KNOW MANY REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS AND INDEPENDENTS CAME TOGETHER FOR THE PARTNER SUPPORT FOR USING THEIR OWN PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE'S MONEY, COLLECTIVELY TO TAKE CARE OF THESE ISSUES AND THESE CHALLENGES AND CRISES, BECAUSE IF YOU ARE A PARENT WITH A KID WALKING TO SCHOOL AND HAVING UNSAFE ACCESS, IT'S A CRISIS. YOU KNOW, SO MANY DIFFERENT SITUATIONS. GOING TO SCHOOL, NOT HAVING PROPER CROSSWALKS OR SIDEWALKS, IF YOU ARE PERSON WITH A DISABILITY. YOU HAVE GOT TO GET TO WORK AT PUBLIX OR WHEREVER IT MAY BE, YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT TRANSPORTATION. JUST YESTERDAY EVENING, I WAS DOING A TOWN HALL OVER AT COPELAND PARK AND TALKING TO DIFFERENT FOLKS TALKING ABOUT FOLKS WORKING AT McDONALD'S FOR NINE, TEN, ELEVEN DOLLARS AN HOUR HAVING PROBLEMS GETTING ACCESS TO BE TRANSIT TO GET TO THEIR JOBS, TALKING TO FOLKS WHO WANT A HOUSE IN COPELAND, AND YOUNG VETERANS COMING BACK WITH PTSD AND OTHER CHALLENGES, SAYING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE PROPER ACCESS TO HARTLINE, ET CETERA, FOR THEIR JOURNEYS THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE IN LIFE. SO WE ARE GOING TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE, BUDGET FOR REPAVING OF $5 MILLION AND THEN $16 JUST TO GET DIGNITY. I BELIEVE OUR BUDGET FOR SIDEWALKS IS ABOUT 350,000? 850,000? AND BY GOLLY, ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION WOULD BE FOUR OR FIVE MILLION DOLLARS. SO I THINK OF THE BOOK OF EXODUS. YOU CAN'T MAKE BRICK WITHOUT STRAW. AND THE VOTERS WANTED US AND WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT STRAW BACK IN 2022: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, AND THEN MR. MANISCALCO. >>JOSEPH CITRO: VIK, YOU ALWAYS KNOW THAT YOU ARE MY GO-TO GUY FOR MOBILITY AND I THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE AND ALL THE HELP YOU ARE GIVING MY OFFICE. WE ARE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS, AND IT JUST PILEDTSELON T OF ONE ANOTHER, STARTED WITH A SIDEWALK BOND AND HOW THE SIDEWALKS WERE BUILT IN THIS CITY. IT STARTED WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM SAYING THAT IF YOU LIVED OUTSIDE WITHIN TWO MILES OF A SCHOOL, YOUR CHILDREN HAD TO WALK TO SCHOOL. I LIKE THE SLIDE THAT YOU SHOWED US. I LOVED YOUR PRESENTATION. HOWEVER, WE STILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL ITSELF. KIDS -- EXCUSE ME, CHILDREN ARE STILL HAVING TO WALK WITHIN TWO MILES. VIK, AGA, THANK YOU FOR YR HELP. AND I'M SURE THE NEXT TIME YOU REPORT TO US THAT THERE'S GOING GOING TO BE A HECK OF A LOT OF OVERLAP AS SCHOOLS ARE WITHIN TWO MILES OF ONE ANOTHER. SO WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF OURSELVES. KEEP US POSTED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, VIK. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU GAVE US. IS THERE ANY WAY POSSIBLE THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN SEE THE INFORMATION OF THE SCHOOLS WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND HOW MANY OF THEM HAVE A SIDEWALK AND HOW MANY DON'T, HOW MANY HAVE PARTIAL SIDEWALK, AND GIVE US AN UPDATHAT THE COST IS FOR THE SCHOOL? >>VIK BHIDE: YES, SIR. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE IT. THEN I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE REAL COST OF PUTTING IN A SIDEWALK. BECAUSE I WOULD JUST LIKE COUNCIL TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THE REAL FACTS. THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING YOU, SIR. IS THAT POSSIBLE? >>VIK BHIDE: YES, SIR. WE WILL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU. THE REAL COST THAT WE INCUR RIGHT NOW VARIES FROM $81 PER THE'S LITTLE BIT VARIABILITY DEPENDING ON THE -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU REPEAT THAT NUMBER? >>VIK BHIDE: SORRY. >> A LINEAR FOOT? >>VIK BHIDE: YES, SIR. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IF YOU CAN. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT MOTION BUT AS A REQUEST I WOULD APPRECIATE VERY MUCH IF YOU CAN GIVE IT TO US. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO? >>JOSEPH CITRO, NO I WAS JUST CKIN YOU UP ON YOUR QUESTION, MR. CHAIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. I KNOW COSTS ARE UP, BUT I MEAN PEOPLE GIVE IT TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, AND IT REALLY BOTHERS ME. AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY I TALK ABOUT MR. VIERA THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM AND MAYBE WE START TEACHING SOME PEOPLE IN OUR HOUSE TO LEARN HOW TO DO THIS JOB. WE CAN CUT THOSE COSTS AND GIVE SOME OF THESE YOUNG MEN AND OPPORTUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN A SKILL AND TO NOW WORK TO CUT THESE COSTS DOWN, BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. BUT MY BIGGEST THING IS THIS. WE HAVE CRAs AND MOST OF THESE CRAs HAVE MONEY FOR SIDEWALKS. THAT MONEY DOESN'T GO TO THE GENERAL FUND, SO THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT NEED A SIDEWALK, YOUR OFFICE IS TO GET WITH MRS. VAN LOAN TO SEE WHO HAS MONEY, WE GET CALLS FOR SIDEWALKS. THERE NEEDS TO BE A SYSTEM WHERE THE SIDEWALKS COME IN, AND YOU DON'T HAVE SOME MONEY, THE CRA HAS MONEY FOR SIDEWALKS IN THAT DISTRICT, IN A CRA AREA, THEN WITH WE ARE LOOKING TO GET THOSE SIDEWALKS DONE. SO THAT CAN BE ANOTHER AVENUE TO WORK TO DO THOSE. BECAUSE AGAIN THAT MONEY IS THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT'S FOR THEIR COMMUNITY -- THAT COMMUNITY THAT THEY ARE REINVESTING IN. SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT OPTION AS WELL BUT I AM GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN, VIK, WE NEED TO LOOK AT A PROGRAM, TO BE -- SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE PUBLIC CORRECTIONS, BECAUSE I SEE GUYS OUT THERE DOING SIDEWALKS ALL THE TIME. SO WE AS A CITY HAVE TO START LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN HELP SOME OF THOSE FOLKS WHEN THEY GET OUT, OR PARTNER WITH SOME OF THESE OTHER CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES TO G OUT, DO SOME OF THIS WORK AND CUT OUR COSTS MORE THINGS DONE FOR THE CITY. SO I AM GOING TO ASK THAT AGAIN. I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TODAY. BUT WE NEED TO GET SOME ANSWERS, BECAUSE IT'S VITAL. YOU HAVE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OUT THERE. YOU HAVE PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT MIGHT BE AN EXTRA PROGRAM TO ADD. IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TO LEARN. WHEN I GOT OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, I WENT OFF TO COLLEGE, IN THE SUMMER, THEY SAID YOU HAVE TO GO TO WORK AND I POURED MUD. IT ISN'T HARD TO DO. SAY, SIR?, YOU HAD SOMETHING TO >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, I DO. I HAVEN'T HEARD CEMENT CALLED MUD IN A LONG TIME. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. VIK, THE LAST TIME THAT WE SPOKE ON THIS, I HAD ASKED ABOUT ALTERNATIVE PRODUCTS, ESPECIALLY PERMEABLE ALTERNATIVE PRODUCTS. PLEASE, IF WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT, CUT THE COSTS THERE I MAY BE SPEAKING OUT OF TURN BUT I AM GOING TO SAY IT ANYWAY. NASA IS LOOKING AT SOME GREAT CYCLED PRODUCTS THAT JUST AS STRONG AS CONCRETE. AO NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT. WE APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW YOU ALWAYS GET BACK WITH US. WE CALL YOU. YOU GET IT DONE. I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT. AND COUNCIL PRESSURES THAT KIND OF WORK. ALL STAFF MEMBERS. WHEN WE CALL YOU, IT GETS DONE RIGHT AWAY. SO I KNOW YOU WILL GET US SOME ANSWERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION THIS MNING. BHIDE THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND WE ARE LOOKING AT BOTH THE IN-HOUSE AS WELL AS INNOVATIVE MATERIALS TO ADDRESS SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU AGAIN. ALL RIGHT. I GUESS WE'LL GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 5 SINCE WE HAVE THE PAPERWORK IN FRONT OF US. MR. MICHELINI, ARE YOU STILL THERE SIR? I KEEP SEEING THESE PRIVATE TEXT AMENDMENTS ALL THE TIME. I THINK MR. DINGFELDER -- GO AHEAD SIR. ITEM NUMBER 5. >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR. AS I STARTED TO SAY, YOU HAVE THIS PACKAGE PREVIOUSLY. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ONE THAT I AM DISCUSSING THIS MORNING AND THE ONE THAT YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY IS THAT THERE ARE FEWER REQUESTS FOR TEXT AMENDMENTS. AS I STARTLED, BRIEFLY, THIS STARTED WITH A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION INVOLVING THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE BUILDING DEPARENT, THE ZONING, AND LAND USE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION OFFICE, SOME PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS, AS WELL AS INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS. THERE'S A MONTHLY ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION THAT'S HELD OVER IN CONSTRUCTION SERVICES REGARDING DIFFICULTIES CONFLICTS AND ISSUES WITH THE CODE THAT REQUIRED SOME ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION, OR TO HAVE THE CONFLICTS IN THE CODE ADDRESSED. AND THAT'S WHERE THIS LIST CAME FROM. IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERHEAD, THE LIST WAS MUCH LONGER. THERE WERE PROBABLY OVER 50 ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED, AND THE CITY STAFF ITSELF TOOK SOME OF THOSE AMENDMENTS ON THEMSELVES AND WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING HERE TODAY ARE THE ONES THAT THEY REQUESTED THAT WE INITIATED THE PRIVATE PETITION. SO I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU A LIST OF THE THINGS THA WERE STRICKEN THROUGH AND I'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALLY. BUT THE FIRST ONE IS THE YARD BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. THAT INVOLVES INTERIOR SETBACKS BETWEEN MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURES. IT DOES NOT INVOLVE ANYTHING ON THE EXTERIOR SETBACKS OR ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY. WE HAVE DELETED THE SIDE YARD SETBACK REQUESTS WHICH WE FOUND THERE WAS A CONFLICT INHE CODE, AND THEN IT SINCE HAS BEEN CLARIFIED WITH STAFF, AND THAT WAS JUST IDENTIFIED AND CORRECTED YESTERDAY. ALLOWING OPEN STORAGE IN CG. THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR ALLOWING WALK-IN COOLERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR EXISTING RESTAURANTS. IT HAD NO PLACE ON THE INTERIOR FOR WALK-IN COOLERS. WE REMOVED THAT AS WELL. THE ISSUE REGARDING SWIMMING POOLS WAS TOO DIFFICULT TO TRY TO EXPLAIN TO LAY PEOPLE, AND IT HAD TO DO WITH A TECHNICAL STANDARD THAT APPEARS IN THE BUILDING CODE. AND THAT'S NO LONGER BEING CONSIDERED. WE REMOVED THAT. ITEM NUMBER 5 IS THE OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT REGULATIONS. RM 24 IS THE ONLY DISTRICT IN THE CITY THAT'S RESIDENTIAL THAT HAS A 30-FOOT HEIGHT LIMITATION, MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURE. THIS WOULD MAKE THE 35 FEET CONFORM TO ALL OF THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL CODES. THE OFF-STREET PARKING FOR DUPLEXES HAS TO BE DO WITH THE SIZE OF THE LOTS, AND THE ISSUE RELATES TO THE PARKING GARAGES THAT YOU HAVE, WHICH ARE REQUIRED FOR TWO PARKING SPACES, AND TWO SPACES IN THE DRIVEWAY. AND REQUIRING AN ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR VISITOR PARKING SEEMED TO BE AN UNUSUAL AND HEAVY SO AGAIN, WITH STAFF DISCUSSIONS, THEY AGREED AS LONG AS IT WAS ONLY DUPLEXES AND NOT FOR MORE THAN TWO UNITS, THEY WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE. ALLOWING MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOUSES STYLE TO FACE INTERIOR COURT YARDS. EST THIS PROVISION RELATED TO A CODE THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO FACE RIGHT-OF-WAY, HAD TO DO WITH SIGNS AND ALSO SECURITY. THEY WANTED TO HAVE A COURTYARD WHERE YOU WOULD WALK UP TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, YOU WOULD ENTER, AND THEN EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL UNITS WOULD HAVE THR O ENTRANCE OFF OF A COURTYARD. ITEM NUMBER 8 HAS TO DO WITH EAST TAMPA OVERLAY, AND ITEM NUMBER 9, WEST TAMPA OVERLAY, HAS TO DO WITH THE FRONT YARD SETBACK. AND THE CODE INDICATES THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BLOCK AVERAGING, BUT IF THERE'S NO OTHER PROPERTIES ON THAT BLOCK, OR IF YOU HAVE AN EXTRAORDINARILY DEEP LOT, THE SETBACKS WERE ENDING UP BEING 60 OR 70 OR 80 FEET FROM THE FRONT RIGHT-OF-WAY. AND THAN THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE WHICH DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. AGAIN THESE ISSUES WERE WORKED OUT WITH THE STAFF. THEY WERE ALSO DISCUSSED WITH THE EAST TAMPA AND THE WEST TAMPA COMMUNITIES REGARDING THIS, AND WE HAD THEIR SUPPORT. I'LL GO THROUGH THESE IN MORE DETAIL NOW. WHEN A PROPERTY CONTAINS MORE THAN ONE BUILDING, THE REQUIRED STRUCTURAL SETBACK WAS BASED ON LENGTH TIMES WIDTH TIMES HEIGHT. THIS DOES NOT AFFECT MASSING. THIS AFFECTS A STANDARD -- SETTING A STANDARD OF 15 FEET BETWEEN BUILDINGS, WHICH WAS REVIEWED AND SUPPORTED BY THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE. THIS AGAIN DOES NOT AFFECT THE SIZE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. IT ONLY AFFECTS WHERE YOU PLACE THE BUILDING. AND WE HAD FOUR DIFFERENT ENGINEERS AS WELL AS THE CITY STAFF TRY TO CALCULATE WHAT THE SETBACK WOULD BE BETWEEN BUILNGS,ND W CAME UP WITH FOUR DIFFERENT ANSWERS. SO A LOT OF THESE WERE ENDING UP HAVING TO EITHER GO TO A REZONING OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO A VARIANCE TO TRY TO ESTABLISH WHAT THE MINIMUM SETBACKS BETWEEN BUILDIGS ON THE INTERIOR OF THE LOT. AGAIN, INTERIOR OF THE LOT. YOU WANT ME TO STOP? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU WANT QUESTIONS FOR EACH ONE? >>STEVE MICHELINI: HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO IT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: HE HAS A LOT TO SAY. THEN GET DO IT IN ONE SHOT. >>STEVE MICHELINI: NUMBER 2 HAS BEEN STRICKEN THROUGH. THAT'S BEEN REMOVED. NUMBER 3 AND 4 HAVE BEEN STRICKEN AND REMOVED. WE ARE NOW ON NUMBER 5. WHICH WAS THE RM-24 AND THE OP ZONING DISTRICTS WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE A ZIGZAG SETBACK AFTER 30 FEET, AND AGAIN, THERE WAS NO JUSTIFICATION. THE STAFF COULDN'T FIND ANY THAT ESTABLISHE0 FEET AS SOME MAGICAL NUMBER. 35 FEET MATCHES ALL OF THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, RS-50, RS-60 75 100 150. SO IT STANDARDIZES WHAT THE TYPICAL HEIGHT IS FOR A MAXIMUM FOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THE VISITOR PARKING FOR DUPLEXES WITH .25 ENDED UP WITH TWO UNITS WITH HALF A PARKING SPACE WHICH YOU HADO ROUND UP TO ONE, AND CONSIDERING THAT A DUPLEX IS ON A RELATIVELY SMALLER LOT, IT WAS TYING UP A LOT OF EXTRA SPACE, IT WAS FORCING THESE DUPLEXES TO SEEK WAIVERS FOR LANDSCAPING, AND THEN IT WAS TRIGGERING REZONING WHEN IT WAS NOT REALLY NECESSARY FOR A SMALL DEVELOPMENT LIKE THAT. NUMBER 7 HAS TO DO WITH THE ALLOWING THE COURT YARDS AND THE FRONT ENTRANCES FACING THE COURTYARD, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WOULD HAVE THE ADDRESS ON IT AND WOULD HAVE THE UNIT NUMBERS. AND THEN THE FIRE MARSHAL WENT OUT BECAUSE HE HAS TO APPROVE THE SIGNAGE AND THE ADDRESSING. THIS WAS THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAD ASKED, PROPOSED LANGUAGE TO ALLOW FRONT ENTRANCES IN COURT YARDS AS LONG AS IT'S NOT AN ALLEY. SO WE WEREN'T TRYING TO ESTABLISH A FRONT YARD, A FRONT ENTRYWAY ON AN ALLEY, BUT RATHER IT HAD TO DO WITH THE INTERIOR ORIENTATION OF THE VARIOUS UNITS. THIS IS THE LAST ONE HERE, ITEM 8 AND 9, WHICH WAS THE FRONT YARD DETERMINED BY BLOCK AVERAGING, AND IT WOULD ESTABLISH A STANDARD OF 20 FEET WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, OR IF YOU HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, AN EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, SOME OF THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU HAVE HOUSES THAT FAIRLY CLOSE TO THE SIDEWALK. IT ONE ALLOW YOU TO GO UP TO THE SIDEWALK IF THERE WAS A BLOCK AVERAGING. BUT WHEN THERE IS NO BLOCK AVERAGING IT WOULD SET THAT MINIMUM AT 20 FEET. THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AS I SAID FOR -- THIS IS NOT A NEW PROPOSAL. IT'S BEEN OUT THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE. IT WAS ROUTED THROUGH ALL THE CITY FOR DEPARTMENTAL REVIEW. WE HAD PROBABLY NO LESS THAN A DOZEN DISCUSSIONS AND MEETINGS WITH CITY STAFF TO REVIEW THIS. WE HAD AUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING. AND BECAUSE THE NATURE OF SOME OF THESE ARE TECHNICAL IN NATURE, I THINK THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT PROVIDED WITH QUOTES AND E-MAILS DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS HIGH PRESSURE TO DO WITH THE ENTIRE CITY. WELL, IT HAS TO DO FOR THE MOST PART NOT WITH SINGLE-FAMILY, IT HAS TO DO WITH OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE MULTIFAMILY AND STANDARDIZING THE CODE AND RECOGNIZING THAT THERE WERE GLITCHES IN THE CODE THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED. IT DID NOT SEEM REASONABLE TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH REZONING FOR VARIANCES FOR ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ISSUES. AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED TO YOU, THE STAFF WAS IN SUPPORT OF, AND WE HAVE ELIMINATED ALL OF THOSE THAT WE HAD ANY CONCERN ABOUT, OR IF THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE STAFF DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING. SO WHAT WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL NO WORKSHOP SESSION TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THIS ISSUE, THESE VARIOUS ISSUES, AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON ANY OF THE ONES THAT YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MS. DOCK, ARE YOU ON OUR SCREEN? THANK YOU, MR. MICHELINI. >>LACHONE DOCK: YES. YES, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I AM HERE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. SO WHAT I THINK IS A HEALTHY WAY TO DO THIS IS TO WALK THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE, AND FOR YOU TO EITHER CONFIRM OR DENY OR WHAT HAVE YOU EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID ON EACH ONE. >>LACHONE DOCK: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I DID HAVE A FEW SWERVING QUESTIONS. SO IN REGARD TO 27-162, YARDS BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, THIS SAYS THAT STAFF IS, QUOTE, IN SUPPORT. IS THAT TRUE? >>LACHONE DOCK: YES, THAT IS CORRECT, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. LACHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT, GROWTH AND MANAGEMENT. YES. WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS REQUEST. THIS WAS THE REQUEST, AS STEVE MENTIONED, REGARDING THE YARDS BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, REMOVING THE REQUIRED CALCULATION WHICH EXISTS IN THE CODE CURRENTLY AND PUTTING IT AS A STANDARD. SOME OF THE REQUESTS THAT -- I'M SORRY? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO WE CHOOSE 15 FEET BECAUSE EFFECTIVELY THAT'S LIKE HAVING TWO SEVEN-FOOT, SEVEN-AND A HALF FOOT SETBACKS? >> AND STANDARD RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS REQUIRE THAT 7-FOOT SETBACK, THAT WOULD BE THAT COMBINATION OF THE TWO. IN SOME CASES ON PDS YOU WILL SEE THAT DEVELOPERS ARE WAIVING THAT REQUIREMENT. SO WE FIGURE THAT STANDARDIZED AMOUNT, STANDARDIZED 15-FOOT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION, BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE THE STANDARD THAT YOU WOULD LOOK FOR ON A PD AT 15 FEET, AND IF THEY WERE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THEY HAVE TO ASK FOR A WAIR? >>LACHONE DOCK: CORRECT. IT STILL WOULD ASK FOR A WAIVER. IF NOT MEET THE 15-FOOT REQUIREMENT SO IT WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE RECOGNIZED AS A WAIVER AND APPROVED BY COUNCIL. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IF THESE WERE REALLY TALL BUILDINGS? I CAN SEE DOING THIS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI ATTACHED, BECAUSE MOST OF THEM I THINK ARE 35 FEET, BUT HOTELS AND MOTELS, I GUESS ARGUABLY COULD BE VERY, VERY LARGE BUILDINGS WITH LARGE MASSES, 15 FEET ADD QUALITY FROM ? >>STEVE MICHELINI: COULD I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME HEAR FROM LACHONE FIRST. MAYBE IT'S MORE OF AN ABBYE QUESTION. >>ABBYE FEELEY: DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT. THIS BUILDING SEPARATION IS WHEN, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE THREE SETS OF TOWNHOMES ON A SINGLE PARCEL. LET'S SAY YOU HAVE THREE BUILDINGS OF FOU TOWNHOMES APIECE. TYPICALLY YOU TAKE THE WIDTH OF THOSE FOUR TOWNHOMES. THE DEPTH OF THAT STRUCTURE. AND YOU DO THE CALCULATION FOR HOW THE BUILDINGS HAVE TO BE SEPARATED ON A UNIFIED PIECE OF PROPERTY. THIS IS GOING TO TAKE OUT THAT WIDTH AND DEPTH CALCULATION AND STANDARDIZE IT AT 15 FEET. THIS WOULDN'T BE NO HOTEL SITUATION, AND COMMERCIAL WOULD STILL HAVE -- IF THERE WERE TWO BUILDINGS TO THE HOTEL, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SEPARATION. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THAT GOES TO MY QUESTION, UNDER THE DOCUMENT THAT WE WERE ALL GIVEN, PROPOSED MODIFICATION SAYS IT INCLUDES HOTELS AND MOTELS. MY QUESTION IS, IF YOU HAVE A 6A 60-FOOT MOTEL BUILDING ON THE SAME PROPERTY, THE SAME PD, IT'S 15 FEET -- IS 15 FEET ENOUGH SEPARATION IN REGARD TO THE MASSING OF THOSE BUILDINGS? I CAN SEE 15 FEET IS FINE IF IT'S A 35-FOOT, YOU KNOW, TOWN HOME OR EVEN AITTL SMALL MOTEL. BUT WHEN YOU GET UP TO 60 FEET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, FROM A PLANNING, FROM A MASS PERSPECTIVE, IS THAT WHAT WE WANT? AND I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION IS, IF YOU HAD PLUGGED IN THOSE CALCULATIONS THAT EXIST RIGHT NOW -- AND I AM JUST TALKING ABOUT BIG BUILDINGS, 60 FEET -- WOULD IT COME OUT TO MORE THAN 15 FEET? >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES, IT WOULD. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MAYBE WHAT -- I'M SORRY. MAYBE WHAT WE SULD DO IS STRIKE HOTELS AND MOTELS OR STRIKE ANYTHING -- MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST SAY FOR 35-FOOT TALL BUILDINGS. I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH A STANDARDIZED 15 FEET. AND I HOPE COUNCIL IS. BECAUSE, YEAH, WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN THE CITY NOW IS BASICALLY 35-FOOT LIMITS IN MOST OF WHAT WE ARE BUILDING ON A NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL, AND IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE 15-FOOT SEPARATION, BECAUSE THAT'S TYPICAL, AS MR. MIRANDA POINTED OUT THIS MORNING, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY IT'S 7-FAT SETBACK. BUT I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF HEARTBURN WHEN IT COMES TO LARGER STRUCTURES THAT MIGHT BE 40, 50, 60 FEET TALL. >>STEVE MICHELINI: CAN I WEIGH IN ON THIS NOW? >>ORLANDO GUDES: AAS WAS FINISHED? >>ABBYE FEELEY: I'LL DEFER TO MR. MICHELINI. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR. >>STEVE MICHELINI: I THINK ONE OF THE POINTS THAT ABBY MADE WAS THIS IS INTERIOR TO A LOT. THIS IS NOT AN EXTERIOR ISSUE. AND IT WOULDTILL HAVE TO MEET FROM THE BUILDING CODE IS TABLE 600 WHICH IS BUILDING SEPARATION FOR FIRE PROTECTION. ONCE YOU GET TO A HIGHER LEVEL, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE EITHER FIRE WINDOWS OR WIRE GLASS WINDOWS, OR DAY LEWD SYSTEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IF YOU WANTED TO RESTRICT TO THE ANYTHING LESS THAN 067 FEET IN HEIGHT THAT'S FINE. THAT'S TYPICALLY A FOUR-STORY, UNLESS YOU HAD AN APARTMENT BUILDING OR SOMETHING LIKTHAT BUT THE INTENTION HERE WAS NOT TO CREATE MORE MASSING, IT WAS SIMPLY TO ESTABLISH THE STANDARD THAT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE BASED UPON THE PREVIOUS CALCULATION. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I'M OKAY WITH THE CONCEPT LIKE I SAID, STEVE, WITH THE 35-FOOT OR LESS. OKAY. I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT. I THINK MASSING IS AN ISSUE WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT LARGER STRUCTURES. AND YOU CAN SAY IT'S INTERIOR TO THE PROJECT, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY BECAUSE IF I AM STANDING ON THE STREET AND I LOOK AT THESE TWO 60-FOOT BUILDINGS, THEY ARE GOING TO BE VERY VISIBLE TO ME, AND SOMETIMES THEY NEED MORE ROOM TO BREATHE BETWEEN THEM. AND I AM NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE FAIR CODE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE VISUAL ASPECTS OF THESE THINGS. SO LIKE I SAY, I CAN SUPPORT HALF OF THIS. I CAN SUPPORT THIS UP TO 35 FEET. BUT ANYTHING HIGHER THAN 35 FEET, NOT ONLY DO I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BUT I HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND THE COMMUNITY HAS A PROBLEM WITH IT. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THESE MASSING STUDIES AND THE MMUNY SAYS WHY ARE YOU EVEN ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE WHICH IS A MASSING ISSUE. I'M OKAY WITH COMPROMISING AND SAY LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROPOSAL, WHICH MAKES SENSE. TO ME. BUT IT ONLY MAKES SENSE FOR 35 FEET OR LESS. >>ABBYE FEELEY: MAY I INTERJECT A CLARIFICATION QUICKLY? ABBYE FEELEY. THE WAY THE CODE STATES, IT DOES SAY YARDS BETWEEN BUILDINGS SHALL BE PROVIDED FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED. SO THIS WILL BE APPLICABLE IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE HOME ON A SINGLE LOT, WHICH WOULDN'T BE. IT WOULD DEFER TO THE STANDARD 7 AND 7. SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, WHICH IS TOWNHOMES SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI-DETACHED, WHICH IS DUPLEX, THEN IT GOES TO TWO FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY, AND THEN THE HOTEL AND MOTEL. WHAT I AM HEARING IS THAT MAINTAINING THE CALCULATION AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS FOR HOTELS AND MOTELS WOULD BE APPLICABLE, AND THEN A POTENTIAL OF SETTING A STANDARD OF A 15-FOOT SEPARATION WHERE THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE BUILDING ON A SINGLE LOT FOR THOSE THAT ARE 35 FEET OR LESS, THIS WOULD BE YOUR STANDARD, RM, AND RS, BECAUSE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE RM-24 WHICH GOES UP TO 60 FEET. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WE GOT THE GIST OF MY COMMENTS AND I APPRECIATE IT. >>ABBYE FEELEY: OKAY. WE WOULD MODIFY PER THE DIRECTIONS PROVIDED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME CONTINUE WITH BY COMMENTS SO WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS. >>STEVE MICHELINI: CAN I MENTION ONE MORE THING? WE DIDN'T INITIALLY -- WE WEREN'T INCLUDING HOTELS AND MOTELS. SO IF WE WANT TO KEEP THAT CALCULATION, I THINK AS ABBYE POINTED OUT, THAT'S A REASONABLE COMPROMISE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, THANK YOU. IN REGARD TO 27-156 OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT REGULATION, AND I AM ON NUMBER 5, TO REMOVE 35-FOOT HEIGHT THRHOLD OR PLACE 35 WHOSE BUILDING HEIGHT WITH REQUIRED YARDS SHALL BE INCREASED BY ONE FOOT. OF THE RM-24, IS THE RM-24 MAXIMUM DOLLARS OUT A IT 35 FEET, OR HOW HIGH CAN IT GO? >>STEVE MICHELINI: ARE YOU ASKING ME OR ABBYE? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK I AM ASKING LACHONE DOCK DO BEING YOU CAN HAVE A BUILDING HEIGHT OF 60 FEET FOR THE RM-24. AND THEN YOU CAN REQUEST -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. >>LACHONE DOCK: -- FOR EACH FOOT OF BIDDING HIGHLIGHT 30 FT IN RM-24 YOU HAVE TO INCREASE YOUR YARD SETBACK BY ONE FOOT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE YARD SETBACK. SO THIS IS NOT THE WEDDING CAKE ISSUE. >>ABBYE FEELEY: IT IS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT IS THE WEDDING CAKE ISSUE. >>LACHONE DOCK: ONCE THE BUILDING IS AT 30 FEET AND YOU GO ABOVE 30 FEET THAT THEN THAT REQUIRED YARD HAS TO BE INCREASED BY AN ADDITIONAL FOOT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT. >>LACHONE DOCK: AND MAXIMUM OF 60 FEET IN HATE. >>STEVE MICHELINI: WHAT WE WERE ASKING FOR HERE WAS TO SET IT AT 35 WHICH ALL THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS ARE SET AT. >>ABBYE FEELEY: ALL OUR OTHER RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, THE BUILDINGS MAY GO UP TO 35, AND THERE IS NO SECOND. SO WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO ASK FOR HERE IS THIS BE ALLOWED, THAT THE STEP-IN START AT 35 INSTEAD OF 30, BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T EVEN BUILD -- LET'S SAY THEY WERE BUILDING STANDARD 35 FEET IN THE RM-24 AT 30 FEET, THEY HAVE TO STEP STEP IN, WHERE IN EVERY OTHER DISTRICT THROUGHOUT THE CITY, YOU DON'T STEP IN AT 30 FEET. SO THEY ARE TRYING TO UNIFORM THAT AND THEN SAY, ANYTHING ABOVE 35 FEET WILL THEN STEP IN PER THE CURRENT REQUIREMENT OF THE ONE TO ONE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT SEEMS TO BE FAIR. THE NEXT PAGE IS ITEM 6. SO THE VISITOR PARKING -- AND MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE VIK BACK ON THE SCREEN -- BUT THE VISITOR PARKING RELATES TO NEIGHBORHOOD PROTECTION. I MEAN, NOBODY REQUIRES YOU TO BUILD TOWNHOMES AND MULTIFAMILY, ET CETERA, OR VERY OFTEN YOU ARE REPLACING SINGLE-FAMILY THAT ALWAYS HAD ONE OR TWO CARS, AND NOW YOU HAVE GOT IN THE SOHO DISTRICT, YOU HAVE THESE QUADS THAT REPLACED THE SINGLE HOMES, AND IT CREATED QUITE THE PARKING PROBLEM, SO MUCH SO THAT WE HAD TO CREATE A PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM, NOT ONLY IN SOHO BUT ALSO I THINK IN YBOR CITY. SO VI. AND I DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF JUSTIFICATION, ESPECIALLY FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD PERSPECTIVE, ON WHY WE SHOULD BE WAIVING THAT VISITOR REQUIREMENT. MS. FEELEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY POLICY PERSPECTIVE ON THIS? >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO THIS IS REALLY -- THIS IS ONLY FOR DUPLEX. BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY TO ELIMINATE VISITOR FOR TWO UNITS. SO TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE THE TWO UNITS THAT SHARE A COMMON LL I THE MIDDLE AND YOU HAVE A TWO-CAR GARAGE AND A TWO-CAR PARKING PAD OR IN SOME CASES YOU HAVE SINGLE-CAR GARAGE AND A SINGLE SPACE BEHIND IT, NOW YOU ARE ASKING FOR A FIFTH SPACE TO HAVE TO BE CREATED SOMEWHERE ON THE PROPERTY. AND ON A REGULAR STANDARD HOME, THERE IS NO VISITOR, AND YOU GO TO THE NEXT STEP UP, THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WHICH WILL BE THE DUPLEX. SO ON A DUPLEX, THIS WOULD ONLY BE ON A DUPLEX. SO TWO UNITS WOULD BE REQUIRED FOUR SPACES PLUS A FIFTH SPACE FOR ADVICE VISITOR. SO WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE TWO UNITS, AND TYPICALLY -- SAY, FOR INSTANCE, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU ARE IN ONE UNT AND I OWN THE OTHER UNIT AND BY CODE WE HAVE A GUESS SPACE. WHERE IS THE GUEST SPACE GOING? SO A LOT OF TIMES, THESE COME BEFORE YOU AS A WAIVER OR AS BEING ON THE SIDE AND THEN NOW THEY HAVE A BUFFER REDUCTION AND THEY HAVE SOMETHING ELSE. SO WHEN YOU GO TO TOWNHOMES, WHICH IS THREE OR MORE UNITS, AND YOU HAVE TO START TO ACCOMMODATE THAT VISITOR, WHICH I REALLY THINK HISTORICALLY WAS BEHIND WHAT YOU JUST REFERRED TO WITH THE QUADS AND OSWANA ON OTHERS, COURIER CITY, SO A TWO-CAR GARAGE AND A TWO-CAR PAD AND YOU STILL OWN A SPACE EVEN IN THEORY YOU ARE HAVING FOUR SPACES PER UNIT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME JUST CLARIFY, MS. FEELEY, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DUPLEX, IT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE, OH, IT'S JUST A LITTLE DUPLEX. BUT THE REALITY IS A DOUBLE TOWN HOME, 2,000 SQUARE FEET EACH, OKAY, IS STILL IN OUR CODE A DUPLEX. SO, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY -- SO NOW INSTEAD OF A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE, WITH TWO CARS ON THAT SAME LOT, VERY OFTEN, IF THE CODE ALLOWS IT OR COUNCIL ALLOWS IT, WE ARE PUTTING TWO HOMES, AND TYPICALLY THEY ARE 2,000 SQUARE FEET OR MORE, AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE TWO SPACES FOR THEMSELVES EACH, WHICH WOULD BE FOUR SPACES, AND THEN ANY VISITORS, THE MINUTE THEY HAVE A PARTY THAT ALL FLOWs OUT AND WE OFTEN FIND THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT NEIGHBORHOODS COMPLAIN ABOUT IS THE PARKING PROBLEM, AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES GETTING UP AN DOWNED THEIR STREETS, PEOPLE ARE PARKING ORPHAN BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AND EVERYTHING. I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING FROM A PRACTICAL SENSE. >>ABBYE FEELEY: THIS IS NOT MY MIND, SO THIS IS MR. MICHELINI'S AMENDMENT. SO THAT GETS PLACED IN A VERY ODD SITUATION TRYING TO EXPLAIN AND DEFEND THAT. SO I WOULD DEFER TMR. MICHELINI. IF YOU DO HAVE A TWO-CAR GARAGE AND A TWO-CAR PAD, TO ME THAT IS FOUR SPACES AND THE GUEST IS ULTIMATELY A COMPLEX ON THESE TWO UNITS IF THEY DO HAVE THAT SITUATION. SO I WOULD REALLY DEFER TO MR. MICHELINI AS HE IS PUTTING FORTH AT AT YOUR REQUEST. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HE CAN SPEAK TO IT AFTER MY NEXT QUESTION. THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 7. I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. MS. DOCK OR MS. FEELEY, I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING IT. >>ABBYE FEELEY: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN AN AVERAGE IS MORE THAN THE 20 FAT, SO -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO, I AM ON THE ALLOW FRONT ENTRANCES FACING COURTYARDS. NUMBER 7. IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE DOING? >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO RIGHT NOW, OUR CODE REQUIRES THAT ALL FRONT ENTRANCES FACE THE STREET. FOR A RIGHT-OF-WAY, THEY DON'T FACE SIDE YARDS AND THEY DO NOT FACE ALLEYS THEN WHAT YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN COME THROUGH A DESIGN EXCEPTION TO REQUEST THAT THEY BE ABLE TO FACE THE COURTYARD, AT THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DISCRETION, AND THAT IS A DESIGN EXCEPTION. I BELIEVE WHAT MR. MICHELINI IS HERE IF THEY FACE A COURTYARD THEY DO NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DESIGN EXCEPTION. IS THAT CORRECT, MR. MICHELINI? >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES. THAT'S CORRECT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. AND THIS DOCUMENT SAYS THAT STAFF, QUOTE, SUPPORTS THAT. I MEAN, WHAT ARE THE PROS AND CONS OF THIS IDEA? >>STEVE MICHELINI: IF YOU WANT ME TO START THIS DISCUSSION, IT'S REALLY A DESIGN OPPORTUNITY, AND IT'S HISTORIC IN NATURE. IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE YOU HAD A WALK-UP FRONT DOOR, AND THEN THE UNITS BROKE OFF TO THE SIDE. WHEN THE CODE WAS ADOPTED, WHEN THE MODIFICATION WAS ADOPTED, STOPPED UNITS FROM FACING THE ALLEYS, I DON'T THINK IT WAS INTENDED TO STOP COURTYARD-FACING UNITS, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE AN INTERIOR COURTYARD WITH AN ADDRESS ON THE SOUTH SIDE THAT FACED THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, IT WOULD BE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED AS AN ENTRYWAK THROUGH THAT AREA, AND THEN YOU QUO ACCESS YOUR INDIVIDUAL UNIT. WE REVIEWED THIS WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, BECAUSE THERE SEEMED TO BE A CONCERN ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD IDENTIFY THE UNITS, AND THEY WERE FINE WITH THAT, AND THEY WERE ALSO FINE WITH THE ACCESS. IT'S JUST ANOTHER DESIGN OPTION WHICH AS I SAID, IT'S HISTORIC IN NATURE, IT'S NOT A NEW CONCEPT, AND WE WERERYING TO ELIMINATE HAVING TO CONTINUE TO FILE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS FOR SOMETHING WHICH WE THOUGHT SHOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, IF I F I MAY. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE ARE LOOKING AT A NEW CONCEPT OF HOUSES THAT JOINED BY COMMON WALL. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE SETBACK, AND I CAN SHOW YOU HOUSES ON A SINGLE LOT THAT HA THE SAME PROBLEM THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. WHERE THEY HAVE FIVE AND SIX AND SEVEN CARS IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, WHERE THE HOUSE WASN'T BUILT FOR THAT. AND THE REASON IS KIDS ARE STAYING LONG WE ARE THEIR PARENTS TO SAVE MONEY TORE BUY A HOUSE OR WHATEVER AND THEY HAVE A CAR, AND THEY ARE LIVING WITH THEIR PARENTS. SO I'M SURE THERE'S SOME IN DISTRICT 5 ALL OVER WHERE YOU HAVE A HOUSE, AND I CAN SHOW YOU SOME ANYTIME YOU WANT, NEW HOUSES BUILT, DOUBLE CAR GARAGE, S TWO CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY, AND THEN THERE'S TWO CARS BEHIND THEM, WHICH HALF OF IT IS BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK. AND THAT'S HOW IT IS. SO I AM NOT TRYING TO BE A MAGICIAN. THE FACT ARE THERE. AND WE HAVE TO LOOK HE AT THE FACTS. IT MEETS THE CODE AT THE TIME THEY BUY THE HOUSE. BUT THEY PARK IN THE STREETS ARE NARROW AND YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. BUT THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT OF THE ZONING. THE BUILDING WAS APPROVED. EVERYTHING WAS APPROVED. BUT THEN COMES THE AFTERMATH. AND THERE IS WHERE WE ARE AT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK I ONLY HAVE TWO MORE ITEMS, 8 AND 9 WHICH IS THE FRONT YARD SETBACK, ALLOW FRONT YARD AT 20 FEET OR BLOCK AVERAGE, WHICHEVER IS LESS. AND I THINK I'M OKAY WITH IT BUT I JUST WANT TO GET CONFER CONFIRMATION FROM MS. DOCK THAT THIS WENT TO THE EAST TAMPA, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHO IN EAST TAMPA WOULD GO TO, MAYBE THE CAC, OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER GROUP. AND ALSO IN REGARD TO WEST TAMPA, THAT THOSE GROUPS SPECIFICALLY REVIEWED IT, UNDER IT, AND ACCEPTED IT. AND MS. DOCK OR MS. FEELEY, JUST GIVE ME COMFORT ON THAT ONE. >>LACHONE DOCK: YES, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. THE REQUEST WAS SENT TO BOTH THE EAST TAMPA AND WEST TAMPA CRA FOR REVIEW AND COMMENT. WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY CONCERNS OR ANY COMMENTS FROM EITHER CRA. I DID ADVISE MR. MICHELINI TO REACH OUT DIRECTLY TO THE WEST TAMPA CRA BECAUSE THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY CODE HAD JUST COME THROUGH AND YOU MAY REMEMBER WE JUST HAD THE REVISIONS TO THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO THE REQUEST. SO IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN I CONFIRMED WITH THE WEST TAMPA CAC AND CRA, THEY DID APPEAR AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS, HE DID PLAIN HIS REQUESTS, THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS TO STEVE. I KNOW HE DID APPEAR BEFORE THE WEST TAMPA CAC. STEVE, JUST CONFIRM THAT YOU DID MAKE DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE EAST TAMPA. FROM THE CRAs, I RECEIVED NO COMMENT. AND I DID CONFIRM THE WEST TAMPA. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: STEVE, WHAT WAS YOUR EXPOSURE EXPERIENCE WITH EAST TAMPA? >>STEVE MICHELINI: I TALKED TO BRENDA THROWER, WHO HAD JUST TAKEN OVER THAT PORTION OF THE CRA, AND THEY HAD NO OBJECTION. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY HAD EXPERIENCED THE SAME THING WEST TAMPA HAD WHEN THEY HAD VERY LARGE DEEP LOTS, AND YOU HAD NO OTHER BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY. THEY WERE HAPPY WITH THAT. ALL IT'S DOING IS ESTABLISHING A STANDARD FRONT -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MICHELINI, EAST TAMPA HAS A CERTAIN OVERLAY. MS. THROWER IS NEW THERE. AND I DON'T RECALL HEARING ANYTHING ABOUT ANYBODY GOING TO DIANE HART, WHO ORIGINALLY SET THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY, I DON'T RECALL ANY MEETING THAT YOU OR ANY GROUP WENT BEFORE THE CAC TO EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT YOU ARE DOING. AND WHAT I SEE, GENTLEMEN, ALL THESE TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT ARE COMING, CHANGE AND THAT, NO ONE HAS TALKED TO THESE NEIGHBORHOOD OR REALLY EXPLAINED WHAT THESE TEXT AMENDMENTS -- TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS PROPERTY REALLY IS, AND WE ARE SITTING UP HERE. TO ME THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT, A DEVELOPER CONCEPT. THIS IS NOT A COMMUNITY DRIVEN IDEA OR CONCEPT. AND FOR ME, IF WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THESE, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND O STAARDOLICY WITHIN THE CITY AS RELATES TO THESE TEXT AMENDMENTS. BECAUSE PEOPLE FEEL THAT THEY ARE BEING FORCED OUT, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SAYING, YOU HAVE A LOT OF -- ALL DEVELOPMENTAL ATTORNEYS AND DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE. REGARDLESS, WE HAVE TO CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE AND OUR ATTORNEYS THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST THE DEVELOPERS, BUT THE PEOPLE, AND MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. WE GET ALL TSE CHARGES THROWN AT US AND THEY DON'T I WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE BUYING INTO. WE DIDN'T KNOW IT DID THAT. AND I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. WE DON'T EDUCATE THE PEOPLE WELL ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WANT THEM TO KNOW. WE JUST TELL THEM WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO DO. I'M JUST SAYING -- LET STAFF KNOW, COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS A PROBLEM FOR THE TEXT AMENDMENT AND THE COMMUNITY NOT BEING KNOWLEDGEABLE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY OR ANY TYPE OF FORM. WHEN I LOOK AT THE COUNTY, RIGHT NOW, GWEN MEYERS, SHE HAS SIGNS ALL OVER THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS SEVERAL TIMES, HER PHOTO ON THERE, GIVE THE DATE AND TIME. WE DO NONE OF THAT HERE AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE MEETINGS ARE, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING HALF THE TIME, AND THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE. WE NEED TO FOLLOW SOME OF THE COUNTY'S PROTOCOLS AS RELATES TO THE TOWN HOLES SO PEOPLE ARE PROPERLY NOTICED. MR. DINGFELDER, I YIELD BACK TO YOU SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION AND I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT YOU SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN. UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK IN REGARD TO THIS BATCH OF PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS, I THINK UNFORTUNATELY THE CODE ALLOWS THEM TO KIND OF CHUG ALONG -- AND I WILL TAKE ADVICE FROM MS. WELLS, WHO IS HERE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, IT APPEARS THAT SOME OF THESE MIGHT BE PALATABLE, AND SOME OF THEM IN MY OPINION NEED CHANGING SLIGHTLY, AND SOME I WILL VOTE AGAINST. SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH MARCHING THROH THESE ON AN ITEM BY ITEM BASIS, 1 THROUGH 9. IF NOBODY IS APPEARING REMOTELY WE CAN PROBABLY DO IT BY A QUICK VOTE INSTEAD OF A ROLL CALL VOTE, I THINK. BUT MARCHING THROUGH 1 THROUGH 9 AND THEN JUST SEE WHERE THAT TAKES US. BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY, MR. CHAIRMAN. OH, AND ALSO IN REGARDS TO THE PUBLIC MEETING THAT WAS ON I GUESS JUNE 7th OR SOMETHING, HAV ALL GOT E-MAILS ABOUT THAT, AND HAVE BEEN WHO ATTENDED SAID IT WAS QUITE A DISASTER, AND NO FAULT OF STAFF, BUT THEY JUST SAID IT WAS A DISASTER IN TERMS OF RIG TRYING TO GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THESE THINGS ARE ABOUT. >>STEVE MICHELINI: MAY I BE RECOGNIZED, MR. CHAIRMAN? THE WEST TAMPA AND EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT, THOSE WERE REQUESTED BY THE STAFF FOR US TO INCLUDE IN OUR PRESENTATION, AND QUITE HONESTLY, THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS PUSHING THAT OR ANY PARTICULAR BUILDER THAT WAS PUSHING THAT. IT WAS DESIGNED TO STRAIGHTEN OUT THE CODE AND ESTABLISH WHAT THE FRONT YARD SETBACKS WOULD BE TO HELP PEOPLE, NOT TO HURT THEM. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT. SO WE SHOULD HEAR FROM MRS. FEELEY IN REGARD TO THAT STATEMENT. >>STEVE MICHELINI: SHE WASN'T INVOLVED THEN. SHE WASN'T BACK WITH THE CITY AT THAT POINT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHO ASKED YOU TO INCLUDE THIS? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CATHY COYLE, GLORIA MOREDA. THIS GOES BACK, THESE ARE FOUR YEARS OLD. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. >>STEVE MICHELINI: SO I DON'T WANT TO PUT ABBYE ON THE SPOT, BUT SHE INHERITED THIS. SHE WAS JUST COMING BACK INTO THE CITY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T KNOW WHY THE -- THE CITY HAS HAD PLENTY OF CHANCE TO DO THEIR OWN TEXT AMENDMENTS. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ASKED YOU TO INCLUDE IT ON YOURS. >>STEVE MICHELINI: WHEN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY CAME THROUGH IT WAS TOO LATE TO INCLUDE THIS PROVISION IN THEIR REQUEST. SO THE TIMING WAS OFF. I DID PERSONALLY TALK TO -- I WAS ON A ZOOM MEETING WITH THE WEST TAMPA CAC, AND I REVIEWED THIS IN DETAIL WITH THEM. THEY NOT ONLY HAD NO PROBLEM WITH IT, THEY APPLAUD IT BECAUSE IT SOLVED SOLVED A LOT OF THEIR PROBLEMS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD THROUGH AND MARCH THROUGH THESE WITH QUICK VOTES, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE SOME OF THEM FORWARD AND MAYBE SOME OF THEM STOP. CAN WE DO THAT? >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T BLAME HIM. [ LAUGHTER ] >>ORLANDO GUDES: I -- WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD QUESTIONS, MAKING SURE THAT CRAS AND STUFF ARE NOTIFIED PROPERLY AND MAKING SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. SO I AM NOT INCLINED TO TAKE MOTIONS ON THIS TODAY. I WOULD RATHER WAIT AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL PTIES UNDERSTAND, AND ALSO I BELIEVE WE HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT TEXT AMENDMENTS, HOW WE ARE GOING TO BE GO FORWARD WITH THAT IN THE FUTURE. IS THAT CORRECT? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ON AUGUST 15th OR AUGUST 4th? WHAT DID WE DEFER THOSE OTHER ONES TO? AUGUST 26th? >>LACHONE DOCK: YES, AUGUST 26th. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHY DON'T WE JUST DEFER ALL OF THESE UNTIL AUGUST 26th THEN? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE PETITIONER TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING -- >>BILL CARLSON: IN ADDITION TO THE CACs, I RECOMMEND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, PARTICULARLY RECONSTITUTED T.H.A.N., BECAUSE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE TO THEM. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MY MOTION IS TO DEFER ITEM 5 TO AUGUST 26th TO COINCIDE WITH THE REST OF OUR PITA DISCUSSIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. GENTLEMEN, I AM GOING TO ASK A QUESTION. WEAVE ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE PEOPLE, MR. SHELBY, IS THAT CORRECT, TO SPEAK? BREAK FOR LUNCH NOW AND GET THOSE FOLKS ON THE BACK END WHEN WE GET BACK HERE, OR TAKE THOSE THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE NOW? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO WE HAVE TO DO THE 1:30? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BE BACK AT 1:30. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, FUR GOING TO TAKE A RECESS NOW, AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE AT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AT 1:30, WOULD YOU HAVE A RECESS OF THIS MEETING TODAY NOW UNTIL 2:00? >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAYBE 2:00. THE REST OF THE AGENDA ITEMS SHOULDN'T BE TOO INVOLVED. 7 AND 8. A FEW QUESTIONS. SHOULDN'T TAP VERY LONG. WE SHOULD GET THAT OUT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THE DIRECTION TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WAITING THAT DO WISH TO SPEAK? >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY UNDERSTANDING, MR. MIRANDA'S AIDE SAID THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM COMING BACK. I SEE JEAN DUNCAN. >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. WE WERE JUST INQUIRING ABOUT YOUR SCHEDULE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME FOLKS READY TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 9. WE DO HAVE ONE LADY WHO WILL BE CATCHING A PLANE AT 3:00. SO IF WE WANT TO ACCOMMODATE YOUR SCHEDULE AND YOUR OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE, SO JUST WANTING TO GET THE LATEST ON THE SCHEDULE SO WE CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE'LL TAKE ITEM NUMBER 9 AT 2:00. WE'LL TAKE A RECESS UNTIL 2:00. (COUNCIL MEETING RECESS).