you think? Oh, like I think we're gonna get started here. It's two minutes past six. Give us plenty of time to have discussion. >> So, just some quick reminders. Um, it is recording this meeting and uh we've got people in person, we've got virtual attendees. Um, if you are virtual, please just be sure to contribute. If you have something to contribute, come off, put it in the chat. Um, follow up with an email after the meeting. I still want people participation even if you're virtual. Um, we'll follow up with a link with the slides and any meeting materials. It's only the slides this meeting. So, we'll follow up with a link for that. Um, and then the agenda for today. We'll briefly just um probably announce who's here. Um, and then we are going to show you guys some of the hazard assessment piece of the flood plan management plan. We're going to show you guys some of the major updates that we're going to be making the action plan based on the previous discussion here at the stakeholder meeting and then the public meeting as well. Um, and then we'll have open discussion. So, any last opportunity to voice thoughts, opinions about the the action plan? and we'll talk about schedule and then general Kai. So, introductions. Um, we've got Jennifer, Lisa, Linda, um, Hammuda's not here. Um, and then on the freezing Nichols side, we've got myself, Bethany Flyman, and then Gavin's over here. So, happy to be here again. Thank you for having us. And then stakeholders. Linda, do you want to talk through this one? Well, I will um address the folks that are online. I'm going to introduce them. So, just starting on my screen with our city's emergency management group, we have Enardo. And then as part of Hello. >> as part of our storm water team, she's not necessarily a stakeholder, she's um helping us with this whole process is Morgan Walla. Morgan. And then from Council of Governments, we have Aaron Blackman. And then with the core of engineers, hey, we have Landon Ericson. And with our city of Fort Worth um planning and development, we have Eric Flagger. And then with Seir Fort Worth, we have Brian Upurch. Have I left anybody out online? All right. Thank you all for joining us very much. And then going around the room internally um in our most department name now. >> Well, I'm in CMO technically. Okay. So, yeah. >> Um Allison Docker who is with our overall open space good nature program, >> green spaces, >> green spaces, very valuable. And then next to her around the room we have Juliana Andrews who used to be part of our team but now she's being a stakeholder as private citizen flood plane engineer knowledge. We have Steven Nichols part of our group um with Jennifer and Tai Kitchens from code. Miss Eva Bonia um she's in the Lynwood West 7th area. She's one of our stakeholders that's a private citizen. I appreciate you being here. From our development advisory council, we've got Eric Cops and then Mr. Nick Peterson with an EN at the end. We um thank you for joining us. We met at uh we actually met your coworker first and then he got you in at one of our bond and budget meetings over on Metobrook side. Yep. Thanks for being here. And you're an engineer also. And then Ben Thompson is part of our stormwater brotherhood. Um he's a capital uh delivery project manager. And Quinn Coller, am I saying your last name correctly or is it Kaylor? >> Kaylor is another one of our um valuable resources with Edgardo in emergency management. And of course we have Bethany and Gavin and Lisa and Jennifer over here. So, there we go. >> All right. >> Thank you, Linda. And thank you all for being here. I feel like this turnout is our best one out of the three. So, I think that is amazing. >> Um, so meeting objective. This is very similar to the last two meetings, but we're just looking for everyone's input on what we're doing here specifically with the action plan. Um, we're looking for you guys to also share what you learn here, spread awareness for the the FMP, and we've got some, we'll show you guys kind of where that website is and give you a QR code. Um, and there's also I'll take some of these um, and distribute these, but these are like some one pages on what this is. Um, so these are pretty easy to share. Um, and then you're just of course representing your stakeholder interest here, um, with your comments and your suggestions in that action manner. So, I'm going to hand it off to Gavin. We're going to go through some of this hazard assessment piece, which is a piece of it's it's really the one of the only technical pieces of this flood plan management plan. Um, so he's got some results to share here. >> He talks about >> Yes. Um, so just to go back over this slide, um, we've probably seen it two or three times now, but this shows the 10 steps that go into the flood plane management plan. So the ones highlighted in blue are the ones that we plan on talking about today with step four being assess the hazards, step five being assess the problem, and then finally eight and nine are the action plan and then adopting that plan. So like Bethany said, talking about the hazard assessment and the problem assessment. So this is really the biggest and really only technical piece that comes into this flood plane management plan. Um but really what is what are these steps? Um so first assessing the hazard. It was a really big GIS effort in getting our flood planes together. Basically our flood planes and the city flood risk areas. And so you can see in that first bullet that there's 43.2 two square miles of 100-year flood risk, including the zone AE 100year, which is from FEMA, and then the city flood risk areas. So, we took those two data sources, merged them together, and then we got all of the um the water service elevations out of either FEMA's data set or from the city flood risk data set, took those water service elevations, and then converted all of that into one big depth grid. And so, basically saying throughout the entire city, one, where is their flooding? and two, how deep is that water? And taking all of that into account, we can see how many buildings are at flood risk. And so this is the hazard piece of this. This is step four is saying where is the problem? Where is the flooding? Um so we counted 3,412 very specific number of buildings at 100year flood risk. About twothirds of those are residential and about a third of those are non-residential. and starting to get into the problem piece of it. The total 100-year economic loss that we calculated was 2.2 billion. And so I'm going to take a step back because there's a lot going on here. So one, this is looking at the 100red-year flood risk. And so that's the 1% chance of this flood happening in any given year. And then two, really how we're calculating this is we're taking all of that flood plane flood risk knowledge and throwing it into a software called Hazis, which lets us take census data and calculate losses at both the building and the contents of that building level as well. And so that's where we get that 2.2 two billion number is we say we have all the flooding, we know where it is, we know how deep it is and then we have all of the census data for every building within the city and we can say how much is it going to cost if this flood were to happen and 2.2 2 billion is a really big number and we're like how does that impact us or where does that really step into um our next steps and so we are trying to take all of that information and come up with reasonable u maybe actions or something that we can do with that data and so definitely stop me if I'm like saying too much or if you have any questions feel free to interrupt me but we were trying to look at maybe what is the impact not only at a citywide level but at a census block level so this is how asis outputs all of its data is it aggregates all of the building and contents damage per census block. So we just said what are the top five? So maybe we can look at those and you can see on the map on the right they're a little small but there's those five stars and you see those generally follow the Trinity River where there's a really well-known flood risk obviously and so looking and just listing off those top five census blocks. So, first the Fort Worth Police Recruiting Building where there's that's Panther Island Pavilion. There's known flood risk there. It's about $145 million of damages, which is really big number. The Village Creek wastewater treatment plant. Um, obviously, if that were to be flooded, that would be catastrophic. And so, it I'll stop for a second because the other piece of this is, yeah, these are really big numbers, but what hazes takes into account is it takes into account the type of buildings that are being flooded. So when we take the treatment plant for example, if that were to flood, that would have a much bigger impact than a one-story home that's smaller. Um, and so it calculates all of that and says this is the damage for that census block specifically given the buildings inside of it. Um, following that, the Trinity River campus, um, Gateway Park and the Fort Worth Zoo. So other known flooding in the city um and other you can just see kind of the cost if the storm were to impact that area. >> Question. >> Yeah. >> So when there's a multi-story building, how does it calculate >> like where like the top level wouldn't flood is does it take off and it just accounts for like up the first level or how does that work? >> So the yeah the program takes by the type of building it is and it's it assumptions. It's large asset, right? It just has a type of debt damage per per building and so it doesn't account for second story, but it would account for basement. >> Gotcha. Gotcha. >> Um, so it just depends on the building type, but yeah. >> So, it's kind of focused on the depth to come up. Gotcha. Okay. Just making sure. >> And I guess I will say these census blocks, it's not like um it's not like just this building would be $144 million. It's it's that's just the census block name. So there's other buildings and other infrastructure and contents blocks. >> Yeah. >> But I do think our next slide might clarify some things like census block is like a hard thing to think about like we don't think about block at least I don't. So we'll show otherwise. >> Yeah. And so like Bethany was saying, maybe to help clear it up a little bit, we have been taking all this data and we've been trying to dissect it as many ways as we can just to make this information digestible and understandable and really show the stuff that like impacts y'all. Um, so what we took next was we took all of those census blocks and we knew the amount of losses for buildings and contents. Um, and then we looked at the neighborhoods specifically because we've heard that a lot in the past stakeholder meetings, the past public meetings that I live in this neighborhood and this neighborhood floods. And so we wanted to say, okay, how do these census blocks apply to these neighborhoods? And instead of looking at cost on this one, we were looking at what's the percentage of buildings that are at risk in these different areas. And so you can see Garden of Eden is at 57%. Lynwood we've heard a lot about, is at 48% of the buildings are at risk. Scenic Shores 44. the west 7th area, another well-known flooding area in the city, 33% of the lake at risk. East Lake Worth and University Park, 31%. And so really, this goes to show just we are taking all of this technical data and we're not just saying that there's female flood planes here, CFR or city flood risk areas here. We're trying to dissect and take all that information and see how it can be applied in the future saying what's going to go into which we'll talk about in a little bit but our action plan. What are our actions going to target? Like where are we going to be looking at in the city? Um so really all of this technical work was to figure out what we can do better in the future and where maybe the efforts need to be focused. Um, so Lisa, I don't know if you want to talk a little bit, but the study prioritization thing that's coming up, like this is another really big piece that is going to go into how we prioritize future studies. >> Um, so just taking all of this technical data into account. There's a lot of GIS work, a lot of hazards work that went into this. Um, and really trying to figure out what we can get away from it. So I'll stop there. >> That was a lot of technical stuff. So like opening up for questions about the process about pazus about these results. Was anyone surprised by these results? Did these results make sense? Any questions, comments? >> I'm surprised it's not more than >> I don't know. I I do have kind of a this might be kind of an offthe-wall question. Like when we're looking at the map of Fort Worth, how does this take into account all the cities that are not like in Fort Worth feet limits? You know what I mean? Like like the ones that we surround. So they're >> Yeah. Like does it calculate like is that part of the calculations? Does that really skew any of our numbers? Does that affect anything? >> It's just Yeah. Just kind of everything else that's worth. >> Okay. Yeah. curious if it was worth looking at like together, you know what I mean? Like if it had >> to see how our flooding impacts their planning or like both. Yeah. I mean, like how Yeah. I don't know. >> I just tend to look at things systematically and so when I see like areas might be missing. I'm just wondering if that has an impact on that. >> That piece of it kind of comes into when we did our outreach. Are we coordinated with every adjacent community to say like do you have data plans for development that might impact flooding upstream or downstream? So we coordinated in that sense but not financial. >> Eric has something to add. >> Actually it's just a it's just a request. Um can I get a copy of this map in GIS shape files with all the attribute data? Yes, sir. Yep, we can do that. Um, it'll this will be part of the FMP package and so once we finalize it, it gets reviewed, we'll get that out to all of you as well. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Because this Yeah, this goes to FEMA. It's going to be public information it out. This isn't in this is intended to be used by other groups and departments at the city. like we're not just going to hold on to it and not share it for sure. So yes, definitely Eric will get that stuff to you and do y'all also so you can see where because it is interesting to watch and see and think oh I didn't think that area was actually one of our biggest issues and now seeing because it's like maybe it is and we need to start looking at that >> if it's already in the remap. I'm sure you guys work with it and GIS it's already in there as a layer that we click on and off I think maybe it >> not we don't have this yet. >> Not this one yet. Yeah, we'll get with them adopting our layer in there. >> Yeah. >> And then as as far as like combined efforts with other communities, like I've talked to TWWDB about how we can use them to help us coordinate projects between communities. So it's not just us, the big tech city coming in and telling them to do something and it's a better effort and then they can help with grants and funding and stuff like that too. So that's something if you want to talk about can we can do that. Well, and then talking about what Lisa just said, like we can also use this as a communication tool to help us like, oh, we need to really focus on communication maybe for certain areas um or target them differently now that we understand the amount of risk that's there. Yep. I think >> if anyone has any questions, please follow up with us. We'll go to and I guess yeah one more thought again to reiterate this will be in the the FMP the flood plane management um plan and so there's going to be a lot more detail um but there's these exhibits will be in there's going to be some good stuff in there um once that's completed um so reviewing review the activities uh which is basically the action plan. So just a reminder there's these six activities and all of the actions fall within these but that's not a new slide. This QR code goes to the previous action plan. We didn't print it out for you guys this time but you can access it there. Um and so I'm me and Lisa are going to tag team this one here. So I'll hand it off to you Lisa. Oh let me I can take this real quick. Um okay approach here. So, like I'm going to step you guys through what we've what we've already done and where we're at and what's in the future here. So, um Freeze Nichols, we we reviewed the last action plan um with you guys. We asked you to look at it, provide input. Um we got that initial input. We totally um we did a lot of work on it so far. We reconstructed it a bit. Um, we've ensured all the stakeholder comments were considered, public comments were considered um, in a way that aligns with the city goals and initiatives. And now we're here to update you guys just on just a summary of what are those main revisions that were made for activity. And then here in a few weeks, we will distribute that like final big old table you guys action. Um and so next in August 13th, we will have our second and final public meeting. Um and so it'll it'll look pretty similar to what we've talked about here. Um just kind of running them through again what the FMP is, summarizing the updates, showing them some of these technical exhibits here. Um so that'll be next month and then we will submit to FEMA and then it will get adopted by council by So that's that's the plan the timeline the approach questions and so this is just what that kind of looks like graphically down here with the draft um FMP on our third and final owner meeting and so we've got a few more months till we're spending month but you guys can expect that draft for sure in September. Okay. All right. So, um, as we've said, we're still working on the action plan currently. There have been a a lot of comments, a lot of great discussion talking about our action plan and talking with the different departments and with you the residents and your state and our so we don't have a draft of that quite yet because we are is still kind of a a work in progress and we're taking comments we've gotten this week as well and incorporating that into there and we're still kind of working to rearrange and combine and really word it so that it's a nice good clean draft when we do send it out to y'all for review. Um, but saying that, we have taken into account some of the things that y'all have said. I'm going to read just because there are so much y'all in the in the plan. I can't recall it all off the top of my head right now. Um, so some of the things we've done in the preventive activity. So those are the things where we want people to make sure that there's things they can do to try to prevent the flooding whether it's uh doing things around their homes or our flood plane mapping so they know their risk. So we also have our storm water management. So we've we have updated some of that to include a more focused like code compliance of drainage focusing on that going out there to see um where there's debris that's blocking inlets and things like that. So we're we've kind of updated that within the plan following the discussions we've had here um our flood plane mapping and data information. So that's kind of one of my big focuses just because you know that's what I do. So there's a lot of updates in there. Um including kind of modernizing some of that information like I had said like want to be able to look in the future about going to 2D or how is FEMA changing things. So we've documented that into the plan as well. Um increasing where we have those city flood risk areas. discussed that how adding that into the plan on how we're going to do that um and what that process is and how we're going to determine which areas get selected. So I and that's already kind of started um improving our stormwater data download website. So we talked about that too and this is just one of the many viewers we have. um not everybody knows it's there and again you know viewers they're no use nobody's going to them. So we're still working on how do we get that communication out on them? How do we make them easy for people to use? So we're taking that into account as well the things that you've told us and then making sure that that is a priority in our plan to make sure that we're going to work on improving those and keeping them up to date. Uh a couple of the new things that we've added is the prioritization of projects and exe execution of projects. Um and then the implement process for tracking inspection permit side. So that was one we talked about. We're we're tracking our LOMARS better. We will have a viewer for that later too for flood risk updates to try to help people find that. But we need to be able to track them first to know that they need to go on the viewer. So in general, a lot of these things that we'll we talk about, they kind of overlap between the different buckets that we have. So part of part of the thing we're discussing now is where do these things really fit in better or do we need to split things up? So So you may see things in a couple of different places right now, but we're trying to consolidate and make it improve. Um, any questions on trying to I'm gonna try to keep us uh on time today and not go over like we did last time. So, all right. So, property protection again, that's um helping people protect their property around their homes. A big one that we're updating is how are we improving that education, especially around flood insurance. A lot of people are very conf confused about flood insurance. So, we want to make that a priority on how we can help people understand what they can do, how it helps them, try to get them to actually go out and purchase it. Um it is it is valuable and it will make them more resilient. They don't understand how just a simple short little flood can just really you know destroy their whole financial future for several years if they don't have insurance. shouldn't say but uh and we were adding you know the flood risk mapping updates web page that I mentioned um educate educating insurance agents real estate HOAs is a new one that we're really going to add in um that's something I know we've also discussed but we've recently even been dealing with a few HOAs that they just they don't understand um the responsibilities and what it takes to maintain these channels that they have going through their property. So, we want to have some documentation or or some sort of online training, maybe even if we could do one in person and report it so that they can go in and see and then be able to understand that it the city's not coming in to to fix, you know, all of their issues on their property. Um, but what they can do and how we can help them. So, so that is a big thing right now, too. Um, and then improving resources on other structural um, ways that they can protect themselves like the sandbag program that we talked about. Um, there's also uh, things that people can buy to put around their homes. Yes. I was going to say where you say HOAs, you need to say neighborhood associations. >> Okay. Yes. Now, we'll add that, too. >> They don't they don't require to pay. We have association dues if they want to pay. >> Okay. But HOAs is its own animal because they are they pay to be in there so they expect more and >> Okay. >> So do the neighborhood associations own the creeks though? I think that's where >> the creeks. >> Okay. So I think that might be a different type of training. >> But yes, that if if neighborhood >> there's HOAs within the neighborhoods like in Lynwood. >> Yes. >> The condos they have their own little HOA. >> Okay. So there's HOA within the neighborhood association style. >> Okay. >> But that's also a good point that there's green spaces in a lot of the different neighborhood associations that they might help to maintain and so we could >> and like we adopted the park and Lynwood. >> Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, so that's totally something else we need to add in there then. Thank you. >> And I know Lori from parks is not here tonight but um I know parks doing a significant amount of communication with HOAs. um riparian, you know, can't maintain it and work with those properties, too. So, I would just make sure that messaging is consistent. >> Yes. Okay. And because some of it is like the permitting side and who's going to come in and fix our erosion stuff like and I don't know if they're talking about that side just in those. >> They do get Okay. >> They get those questions a lot or feel those questions a lot. >> Yeah. Okay. Well, I'll get we'll get with Lori then on that too. Thank you. Me wr writing that down. >> Thank you, Jennifer. Okay. No, these are that's great. That's great to follow up on. >> I do a lot of the kind of the no mo or reduce mowing education. So, >> and it's always the HOA expects folks to come in and maintain the HOA property and it's like that's not >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But it's good to educate them on how to No. And it could be a combined effort, right? So that it's all of that that they have to do because it's not it's not just about the flood plan. So yeah. >> Okay. Awesome. Any other questions on that? >> All right. So the next one is natural resource protection. Um and so that is a lot that Allison deals with, our parks deals deal with. And so we have revised a lot of that to reflect the comments that they've had on the programs that they're using now currently compared to what we had previously in there that you know programs change or they get renamed or we get new ones coming in. So we we have updated that following those. Uh and then we've added um we have a a study going on right now that's a pilot talking about erosion in our channels. So Ron John who works under me is is working on that and coming up with um kind of a methodology on how to do that across the city. So we have a couple of pilot areas that they're looking at and then we'll take that information to understand how are we going to use this erosion um information that we're finding where these risk are and then how can we guide uh regulations or where do we need to do restoration projects and things like that. But then also again added the open space program and the green space program and I know Lori wrote in us some notes about green print as well like they have a green print. So we'll incorporate that into our parks master plan and then another one >> okay to reference it's the um the natural land management policy. >> Okay council just approved the resolution a couple months ago and so I think that would fit in this okay something to reference to. Okay. So, we need to reference national management policy back and forth on the name of a couple. >> Does it have a good name? >> Okay. All right. On the next one, emergency services. So, we we actually met with Quinn and the emergency services or office emergency management office. I can't speak in my house and and went through the action plan with them. And so we're we're coming out of that a lot of good information to revise on. Um I know last time we talked about we're saying we should have those more often meetings with them. So we're are working to coordinate quarterly meetings so that there's better coordination between storm water and emergency management. So I think good things are coming. Um, also to note, emergency management is their own department now. Yes. >> They used to be under fire and when did that occur? >> October recently. >> Just recently. Yeah. So, they have a lot of ramping up and building up to do in their new department. But it's a good opportunity for us to focus with them. >> Definitely. Um, and because so out of those conversations we talked about like how do we use the it's Fort Worth alert or alert for Worth? >> Ready Fort Worth. >> Ready for an alert, too. >> Oh my gosh, I keep calling it alert. Okay, ready Fort Worth. So, instead of code red, we now have ready Fort Worth. um and how can we utilize that to help with focusing some of those um notifications to the neighborhoods that we've talked about like so there we're are in discussion on that like is that something we can do easily or I say easily nothing's easy but again is it something in the future we can do a little bit more easily than we were thinking already um and I think that's a good platform so then it's also getting that word out so that people sign up for it so that they can actually get those notifications do. So, it's we are looking into actually and starting to work on some of these programs that we've been talking about. Um, again, so we have our new program with the HOA flood alert system that we've talked about where it's those little uh notifications that are located on site specific for areas that flood. And so when those flasher systems go off, it sends out a notification as people are coming up to the site so that they know that they should probably turn around and not drive through it. So, we have that now. I just got the new number today. We have 27 of those now across the city. And so, we're still expanding that. Um, we'll get some more communication out on that, too, because I see Derek going, "What?" So, uh, Ron, we'll get Ron John. Ron John's in charge of that, too. We'll get him to do a few presentations here coming up in the future to kind of help explain what that is. We're the first city using that system in that way. Um, so that's a really good program I think um to showcase, but it's getting it gets the word out in like now time for people as they're coming up on places that are flood. So that's just one of the kind of programs we've added. So we've added it to the plan as well to help expand that since it seems to be working really well. Um, expand our flight. Uh, drone usage, we've talked about that. So we've added that in as well. Think of think I talked about most of that. Oh, and AI. I mean, we talk about AI everywhere. So, we've incorporated that in. Um, we'll see where AI goes in the future in the different ways, but anything you want to work with, um, Ready for Worth to build that opt-in list and doesn't take too long to build and get it get it that way it could be address based and neighborhood based. Um, and then ideally, I think you said September is your newsletter. So, we try to have it ready with instructions in there in the September newsletter for people to sign up. >> That would be great. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. So, >> so that's coming. It'll be even bigger newsletter. I don't know how I'm going to squeeze it all in, but we'll work on it. >> Okay. All right. Structural projects. So, really that one it's mostly just revisions. We're a lot of that will be staying the same. it's just smaller um wording of what we're actually doing. And then probably the big one we want to add is that grant opportunity plan kind of coming up with a strategic plan to help us determine how can we get more funding to help us build these things that we need to build because as you know there's there's just not enough at our level. Um and we don't want to we can't increase the fee as much as we would need to to cover everything either. So, it's a balance, but we need to have a good plan to know how we're going to do it. Um, because when they come up, they come up really fast and you have to be ready to go. So, so that's the big one for this section. Um, six, public information. So, that one we did have quite a few things that we've revised on that because some of it are opportunities that just aren't there anymore that we can't do um or that just it turned out just weren't feasible for us to do as well. So, we've we have updated a lot there. A lot going on with getting out to more meetings. We're trying to get more education information out there, a lot more uh flyers, trying to get some more trainings, um update our letter, uh and more viewers, get that viewer information out there. So, think pagers. Yeah, approving. So, we just want to make it easier for everybody to understand. So, we took all of the information gave us about how we should be doing that, incorporated it into the plan, but we're still we're still working on refining that. Um, and I think part of this what I when I read through this, I think a lot of the changes were trying to diversify how we're sharing that information to people. Um and so like this technical assistance, you all do this correctly, but like putting that on the plan I think is great and people need to talk there. The um we put in here this education on available resources and available available resources for residential property. So that's like like Nick's point last meeting when it was like could you maybe use AI to plug it in summary all the levels that's where that was maybe that's in future initiative so documenting that um yeah the one page or just different like diversifying how we share information so it's we acknowledge that when you're in front of We're gonna keep Linda very busy. Linda says no more platforms. >> Any any comments on public? This is the last one. >> Have you guys thought about trying to talk to the younger generations? >> Okay. Yes. But we need younger people to tell us how to do that. >> No, I know. 16 like a universal problem. >> I mean it's not just like a city forward. It's like probably all city departments are struggling with. >> Oh yeah. I went to af and how the current methods are just not okay and like the cities are having to change how they do things. So like you have different dot departments coming out with super castic like messaging on like Twitter and like to try and get attention to these things and it's >> gotta get on Tik Tok just rolls through those things. So yeah you put we have the little short >> we need more short videos. >> Yeah on Instagram. Yeah, it's a very >> we get to be sarcastic too. So that's fine. >> I mean that's how like people have been doing their like social media posts about like lane closures. They'll add something I can't think once I don't have that brain but they'll ask super sarcastic and like everyone sees it and appreciates. >> How is that effective? Um but just a general statement of things >> also. Um I think that's a great point for sure because we we struggle with that because I think every department does like point too but um engaging with Cameron videographer city's videographer his he's growing his team and they are sharp and they do really kind of like big ideas and kind of condense it do a great job telling the story. So called him he just did one for like go grazing for in space park sparks and it turned out really awesome. So that might be the tool that you could use to just push it through and they do like they'll he'll do videos for like city news and then he also does he'll condense it down to short clips that you can put on social and >> Yeah. Because they're not going to watch the long needs to be very short. >> Exactly. And so he'll do a couple versions of short ones you can post a couple of times just to get it out there. I know nothing about social campaigns and like all of that, but >> yeah. >> So that would be a good good resource. >> So I think as like maybe as we get like the paper documentation together, we can get a video to go along with it so we can push them out. And yes, I just appreciated this week uh the warning. It's a flash flood warning for me where I live and we did have flash flood. I mean, we we did flood and uh I mean, who would have thought you were going to have rain in July in the middle of July this month >> and flooding? >> Anyway, so I appreciated that. I was in Dallas coming home and I said, "Huh, I got to call and see if I can get in." And >> yeah, it's crazy. So that's the NWS, the National Weather Service. Yeah. >> So that I appreciate that. And I said, "Has it always came on? I never paid attention." >> I think a lot of it has to do with what you're subscribed to get. since the young engineers were coming 21. >> I was like, I just blew my >> No, she said something. She's like, yeah, I'm only 21. I'm like, what? >> Born in 200. What do you mean 20? What? >> So, they are entering the workforce. So it may improve how we >> I think that's to diversify communication methods. I think that's a great action. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. Yeah. >> And if we get to get sarcastic like Washington, I don't remember. I'm sure you sarcastic >> even our like four or like police and fire. They do funny videos all the time. I I see those and they're awesome. >> I love them. >> Uh communications person is really good. >> Especially on Tik Tok. >> Yeah, that's a new civilian position they hire. That's not a >> Oh, definitely. Yes, >> you'll see a change once. >> Any other comments, feedback on kind of that summary of major changes? >> Hey Lisa, this is Aaron Blackman with Cog. sending you a spreadsheet uh that compiles some grant opportunities. >> Okay. Thank you, Aaron. Appreciate you. >> Jennifer, should I or should I mention the signs they're putting in the park? Did y'all want to talk about that? >> Sure. >> Do you want to talk about it or Well, so I can talk about it. So, we have been working with the parks department. Um, so a couple years back there was a person that was stranded in the park um for a very long period of time because it started raining and they didn't think to leave the park. They just figured I'm going to wait it out in the park um and then I'm going to go back to doing whatever I was doing after the rain and they ended up getting stranded um in the park. This was in Cop Park. Um, and so after that, we really thought, you know what, we need to put some signage into some of the most floodprone parks, not all the parks, the most floodprone ones to notify people about the flood risk there and to let people know, hey, like if it's if it starts to rain, it's probably just better to leave the park because we want people to be safe. Um, because we have had people um there was another fatality in a park um that had to do with flooding. And so that's that's the key. We want the parks to flood, not people's homes to flood. So they're often built in floodprone areas. Um so we did start to put out some signage. We're working on a communication plan um to go along with it. Um and we're trying to be strategic again and place it in those most club front parks and and the whole purpose is not per say to scare people, but we want to inform people about it. Um so >> can I read it? >> Yes. And we did work with legal on that language. >> So, but yes, go ahead and read it because you have >> danger flash flood area. This park floods during rainstorms. Leave the park at first sign of rain. So, my neighbors who have condos right next to it that the entrance to the Lynwood Jessine Sound of Ballard. I live on one side and then there's four condos that are over $700,000 each. But anyway, uh one of them is selling his and he I never noticed the sign and it's right next to my house in the park entrance and but but it just went up I think last week and he told me, "Well, that's scary." And especially if I'm trying to sell my house and it's in English and Spanish illegal. So, so thank you for letting us know because we need to go back and revisit our communication about that. So, >> so are you worried? >> He's worried about that it's going to scare us buyer away, but are you worried that the sign being there? >> No, my neighbor's worried that it might, you know, uh get people not to buy his house. >> But I think Eva, you're saying that it makes sense that the park that that sign is there because the park reads our park sites anyway. >> So, someone actually read it. So, that's what it took to read it >> right there. We communicated differently. >> We did. I'm not worried. And I'm the president of the neighborhood. >> But I thought that was a good idea, but after I read it, I thought that is scary. >> Well, and it is it's meant to catch attention >> and we had a lot of discussion with legal on the wording and what could be used. I think what is scarier to get stuck caught in the flood or to see the warning? Yeah. >> So, I'd rather be warned and know better. >> They can read it. That's the other thing, >> right? And >> especially the dog owners, >> right? >> Yeah. >> I think what's cool too about stuff like that's always there. So if you're going to the park a lot, just keep seeing it over and over and eventually kind of like get >> if they read it longer. Yeah. But that kind of stuff >> and well and that's a part of the, you know, trying to improve how we communicate about flood risks in different ways. Um, and so it's kind of those more focused targeted communication. >> I love the color though. Yeah, it's very bright. >> But if y'all have like ideas like like just like this, like if there's other ideas of like think about this type of communication. Like I love this. Think consider sarcasm. Like yes, that would get my teenager's like attention and she would like that. >> I need one with a sarcasm to pick up your dogs. >> And don't let your dogs run free without a leash. Got to be some little emojis and stuff >> because the park signs this big and it's the words are this little. I swear. >> Want to pick up your pet? >> Yes. And keep your dog on a leash. >> Yes. >> Great discussion. >> Anything else? Actually, I wanted to ask Erin from the council of government point of view for an overall flood lane management plan from what you've seen from surrounding municipalities and then what we're doing. Um, do you see others doing the same level of detail as what we're doing? >> I think Fort Worth is the model. think you guys are doing great. >> Yeah, >> I really do. When we reference things, we reference you guys. >> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. You guys will get that final plan and you and still provide comments once we get back to you in a few weeks. Um, do you want to >> Sure. So, um, we just wanted to throw it out there again. We have a strategic or a storm water stakeholder group as well. So, if you're not already on it, you're welcome to join it. We always love to have new people join that. Um I know we're we're we're snagging a few people here or there, but again always promoting it. So please please let us know. Ask Linda. She she can get you signed up. Um and then we just wanted to say how we're going to use this plan because again I said in the beginning we're not just doing all this work and then it's just going to sit on the shelf and not get used. Um so once once we do have it, we will start using it and probably will use it before it's even adopted. um as we start getting into our FY28 planning, figuring out what kind of projects we need to be budgeting for for the next fiscal year, um and just kind of, you know, helping guide us as we're trying to figure out where do we need to ask for more money maybe so that we can do some of these projects that we're showing in here that we say are high priority. So, when we do go for more money, please support us to help us be able to do this and improve our program. Um, and then also next year is our year that we're supposed to have our next five-year CRS verification visit. So, we're going to take this plan and use that to help support that visit. And hopefully with this and then some of the things we've already implemented, we can improve our score more with that program and be able to get a bigger discount on flood insurance premium. So, you know, the better we can get, the better we can help the community for those that need insurance. And then I think as if we can get those bigger increases then maybe it'll be more affordable for some of the people that can't afford it too. So it's it's kind of that that balance there. >> And then we did want to just remind you guys um we've got the website on the storm water management um website. There's a specific section about management plan um with lots of good information. So, this is a tool not only for you guys as a refresher, but also to share um the public meeting information. There's the the documents here. So, it's like basically everything that we've already distributed to you. And um here's the survey um to fill out some questions if you want to contribute to that. Um so, just a reminder that this is here. The QR code in the top right takes you directly to this section. Um so, it's a great tool. I'm not sure who updates it, but y'all do a great job keeping it updated. And that's all we have. So, still Q&A. Still, we've got a few minutes here if anyone has topics that like to talk. >> Well, I just want to say before we end, thank you all very much. I know this is a lot in the summer to to try to do and we've had a very condensed schedule and so I really appreciate y'all coming in and participating and joining us and helping us with this program. So I think we're going to have a really good plan coming out of this and we couldn't do it without y'all's help. So I really appreciate Thank you guys. Thanks everyone that's attending virtually. We appreciate it. >> It's fitting to say that there is a storm coming up to us. Yes. >> 20 minutes. 20 minutes >> tonight. Wow. >> Well, for the central Texas area is getting flash again. Like I called my parents earlier just to be like carry all because they live outside Gville. >> It's July. >> I know. I know. So we're >> It's great though. I mean that it rains. Just behave. Well, and this is why we do this so we can help help prevent that kind of devastation. I mean, we can't we can't prevent the floods, but try to help prevent >> Thank you for doing this. I really appreciate it. My neighborhood does. They made me feel real good. >> Well, we're glad you can answer that. >> Everyone for your time. And as always, like reach out. Our emails are here if you have any questions. We'll follow up with these slides, too. So, you'll have the digital copies >> and with the recording of this meeting. >> And we did it on time, y'all. >> All right. Look at us. >> Yeah. Before we get inundated with Thank you all. >> See y >> Thank you. >> Bye.