Hello and good morning everyone. Council member Wire, would you like to lead us in the pledge of >> allegiance? To the flag of the United States. >> Thank you so much. Also, Council Member Wire, would you please introduce our honored guest who's delivering the message of aloha? >> Of course. Mahalo, Chair. Today, I have the honor of introducing Raquel Au, who will be delivering this morning's message of aloha. Raquel's roots run deep throughout our Northshore community, where her life's work reflects her commitment to the people and place places she serves. She's currently the vice chair of the Northshore neighborhood board, an ocean safety commissioner, a rancher and farmer, and dedicated community advocate involved in our schools and beyond. Through her roles in public service, she showcases her commitment to caring for the land, our ocean, and the well-being of our neighbors in Ohana. She speaks out for Kamaya, Kei, farmers, rural communities, and is always grounded in Kuana. In the aftermath of the recent storms that have devastated communities across District 2, Raquel has been a steadfast voice, advocating for residents, supporting ever every recovery effort, and ensuring that our community is heard. Her advocacy during these challenging times reflects her unwavering dedication to serving with Aloha and of course bringing the Northshore into the chamber today along with Lei from Little Plumeriia Farms. I want to just ask everyone to join me in welcoming Raquel to the chamber. Mahalo. >> Can you hear me? Thank you, Council Member. Good morning, everyone. Aloha and mahalo, Chair Waters, Vice Chair, and council members. I never thought I'd ever be nervous, but after that, I just got to think, did I die? Like, I don't know. But, um, thank you for the kind words and the opportunity to be in front of everyone here today. Um, when I was asked to provide this message this morning, it was a great honor and it was prior to our Kona storms and now we're posttorm. So I had all kinds of ideas and now that we're post Kona storm all of the ideas come through your head and I can assure you that what I have to share is straight from the heart. I wasn't quite sure this morning what I was going to say as we drive out of the Northshore. There's so much emotion that comes into play as you drive through. I've been really torn with what to share, but I think it's important to take these moments and go with them. The devastation of my Kaulu, the Wuaoku, and the severe impacts felt by our neighbors on the west side, Kola, and even Monoa have li left a mark that won't soon be erased. Life has changed as we know it. But the truth is no matter where you are throughout our pina, you felt a sense of emotion and kana and a vulnerability even if you weren't impacted. That is aloha. When we take the time to reflect on the how and why we are in the positions we are today, whether your city chair or the coach of the football team, there was a kana that prompted you to give your aloha to that effort. When you give someone your kana, you've you've shown them that your aloha has so much authenticity that you're taking the responsibility to provide to that person, place, group with without hesitation. Auntie Twinkle Bourge said it. I attended I was very honored to attend uh the Council of Native Hawaiian Advancement Convention one year and Auntie Twinkle said when you give someone kana it wakens their amana. Well, let's add to that the awakening of mana is spirited by your aloha. the aloha you have for each other and the duties you want to provide for your communities, your neighbors, your family, your kuna. I think of aloha and it sometime troubles it sometimes troubles me that aloha the word has been so commercialized it sometimes loses its authenticity but our kana is to ensure that authenticity sorry when I reflect on the space we're in Today, the aloha that I've seen throughout my community has been overwhelming. You don't see it every day and you take it for granted until an event like this happens. We come into chamber, we come to city council, we go to the cap and we understand, we have a sense of aloha to share with everyone and that aloha is also our knowledge and our perceptions and our drive to do what's right for each other. The aloha that stands out in my head comes from what we do for each other and the future and our ability to stay where we're at. Remembering why we are put in this place and the purpose and making it meaning meaningful. We can often forget the importance of why we're here and what we want to do. When I look at my community, the aloha that's been poured out so much has just been overwhelming but just unconditional. You go in and you have differences of of opinion. You have differences of wants and needs and the way to do things. Yet, everyone comes into play and it works out smoothly and everyone has helped each other. We've got people that very literally don't know where they're sleeping tonight. They don't know where their next meal is coming from. They've been thrown into a rental market that they can't afford because they have were in a very good place for a long time. Challenges that we are now facing together. Instead of them alone, we are facing it with them and doing it with them. Figuring out and challenging each other on how to come up with a positive plan that helps them. But it helps us because we are restoring that faith in what we're here to do. I think if we move forward and we're able to really concentrate on what matters most and putting ourselves, our community, and our the people in it first before anything else. We can't survive without that. We have to take care of each other first. And that aloha that we've seen in the past few weeks has been amazing where people from all over. We don't even know some of these people. I think even in my testimonies in the past, I've caught myself saying, you know, state and city, state and city. Communities don't care about the border of where you're doing your work. But seeing everybody come together, everyone's collaborating regardless of status, position, the car you drive, the house you have, they're just there and it's endless. And it's so refreshing to see. And so maybe the outcome of this whole event was to remind us that none of that really matters because at the end of the day, if we're taking care of each other and we're putting out for each other and we're making helping others get ahead more than ourselves, that is the authenticity of aloha. And it's with that that I hope that we can carry on through the rest of this very challenging year already to be able to say, I may not agree with you, but we're going to work on it together and we're going to move it forward. I hope that for my community, we are faced with some strong challenges. It will be a long road. The recovery is ongoing. But if we can keep in mind that sense of aloha that connects us, I think we can get through these matters any challenge in front of us as long as we keep the authentic aloha within us and we share it with you. Mahalo for this time this morning. I'm very appreciative. Thank you. That was fantastic. Thank you so much. Um, aloha and kulana, you know, and if I may just ask members and the members of the audience as well, um, Aloha is embodied in in our rules as well and the bills that we're going to be considering today can sometimes be emotional and people get excited about various issues. If I can just remind people to confine their remarks to the question and discussion, avoiding personalities or abusive language, right? Um we don't want people to accuse people and call them by name and degrade folks. If you can keep your remarks simply to the issue because that's that's I think aloha. Right now, having said that, I have a few announcements to make before we start. Although remote oral testimony is being permitted, this is a regular meeting and not a remote meeting by interactive conference technology under HRS section 92-3.7. Therefore, the meeting will continue notwithstanding loss of audiovisisual communication with remote testifiers or loss of the public broadcast of the meeting. Members of the public will be allowed to provide oral testimony on all items on the agenda, either in person in the council chamber or remotely as both English and Hawaiian are official languages of the state of Hawaii. Pursuant to article 15 section 4 of the Hawaii state constitution and section 1-13 of the Hawaii Revised Statutes, members of the public may testify in either language. For oral testimonies offered in Olo, Hawaii, additional time, as may be necessary, will be allowed for the testifier to provide an English translation of their testimony. Before testifying, each person shall state their full name and the agenda item they are testifying on. Each speaker may not have anyone else read their statement and is limited to a threeminut presentation on public hearing and new business items and a one minute presentation on all other items. Registered in-person testifiers will be called first. When your name is called, please proceed to the podium and begin by stating your name and the items you'll be speaking on. When a call for anyone who has not registered to speak in person, please line up to the right of the podium. And when it is your turn, proceed to the podium. Begin by stating your name and then the item you'll be speaking on. All persons who have registered to testify remotely by video conference or phone who will then be called. When your name is called, please monitor your screen and activate your audio feed when prompted. When I call for anyone else standing by remotely, please utilize the Zoom raise hand button to indicate your desire to speak. For those joining us by telephone only, please press star 9 to indicate your desire to speak. The following are some friendly minors and reminders and tips. Video conference from a quiet location if possible. If you're also watching the proceeding on OL, please mute your television when called to testify. When the timer on your screen reaches zero, please conclude your remarks promptly. For those who are joining us by telephone only, I will identify you by the last three digits of your phone number. When your number is called, press star six to unmute yourself when prompted. Written testimonies, including the testifier's address, email address, and phone number, will be available to the public as described on the posted agenda. As a courtesy, please turn off all cell phones for the duration of the meeting. Members, resolution 26-65 on page 15 urging the city administration to restore the Mona Lahi Cultural Garden by activating and implementing the Mona Lahi Cultural Garden Master Plan has been cancelled and will not be considered. Turning to page three, I'd like to call the meeting to order. Mr. Clerk, please call the role. Council member Cordderero >> here. >> Council member Doss Santos Stan >> here. >> Council member Kia >> here. >> Council member Nishimoto. >> Council member Okimoto >> present. >> Council member Tolba >> here. >> Council member Tupola >> AO. >> Council member Wire >> here. >> Chair Waters >> here. >> Mr. Chair, nine members are present. >> Thank you. Floor leader Kia Aam. Introduction of guests. >> Thank you. Um, of course, we have several members from the administration, including the chief of staff, Andy Sugg, the director of budget and fiscal services, Andy Kuano, uh, the prosecutor Steve Alm, um, corporation council, Dana Viola, deputy director, Brian Gallagher for DPP, and Erin Kawata, deputy manager for the border water supply. Of course, we have uh nominated appointees as well as community members and stakeholders uh who are here for various issues on today's agenda. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. From the committee on energy, environment, and sustainability, council member wire. >> Thank you, chair. I move that committee report 9226 and resolution 26-61c1 as amended be adopted. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Council member Wire for the explanation. This is confirming the appointment of Darien Chun to serve on the border water supply of the city and county of Honolulu. >> Thank you so much. I believe Mr. Chun is present today. Aloha. Would you like to say a few words? >> Hi, morning chair, vice chair, and council members. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to serve on this board. I hope that my experience and knowledge will help the board make decisions that will keep Aahu affordable for its residents. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Members, any questions for the nominee? Council member Wy. >> Um, thank you, Chair. And not a question, but just wanted to mahalo the nominee while he's up there for again your willingness to serve and making time to meet, participate in the hearing, and look forward to um, you know, working with you going forward. Mahalo. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Any further questions for the nominee? Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. >> We do have one registered in-person testifier, Shelby Pikachu Billionaire. Aloha my Kako. This is Master Shelby Pikachu billionaire. I come from the Jedi force because from this morning and I already put my testimony in for support for this brother from another mother cuz Nana sorry Wii McDonald's water is broken. You know who filmed it live coming today? Miss Shaya de la Cruz CEO of builtin50 right behind me. We got her on Instagram. You she can get out. She picked me up because you know I catch the bus here. Cost me $3. Gas is expensive. So we're going to need your help to help Ernie Laauo. So, I do support the confirmation, but we're going to need your help to fix real stuff that breaks and in real time. Thank you very much. Mahal no. Thank you, chair. >> Thank you. I also have three registered testifiers uh who registered remotely, starting with Tracy Tonaki. Mr. Clerk, is Miss Tonaki available? >> Mr. Chair, the testifier is not logged on. >> Okay. I do note Irwin Kawat Kawat was registered remotely, but he's here in person. Please proceed, Mr. Kawada. >> Uh, thank you. Good morning, uh, council chair, vice chair, and council members. Irwin Kawatu with Border Water Supply. Um, we stand on our testimony in support of, uh, uh, city council resolution number, uh, 26-61, committee draft 1, relating to the appointment of Mr. Darien Chun, to serve as a member of the board of water supply, city and county of Honolulu. Thank you. Thank you so much. Is there anybody else who'd like to testify? Seeing none, thank you members. We're in discussion. Council member Kia. >> Thank you, Chair. Strongly support uh Mr. Chun. He's highly qualified and I think he'd be a great addition uh to the border water supply for the administration. I just would like to say that for uh any um future vacancies, I'd like to see um a little gender equity on this board. I think uh right now the majority are Kane and I think that the administration has done a good job uh over the time that we've been here. Uh you know we have a lot of wine on the uh planning commission as well as the police commission but I would just like to see that in all of the boards with just a little uh consideration for gender equity. But uh Mr. uh Chun again is going to be a great addition to the board. >> Thank you. Any further discussion members? Seeing none, any objections or reservations? Noting no objections or reservations, CR 92 2026 and resolution 26-61 CD1 has been adopted. Congratulations and thank you Mr. Chun for your service. Moving to the bottom of page four from the committee on zoning and planning. Council member Kia Ana. I move that committee report 952026 and resolution 2526-56 CD1 as amended be adopted. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Council member Kiana for the explanation. >> This resolution confirms the appointment of David Britain to serve on the zoning board of appeals of the city and county of Honolulu. >> Thank you. I believe we have one registered testifier. Shelby Billionaire. >> Thank you Chair Waters. This is a Pikachu shelby building your back. So I want to support this make it uh sweet and simple but uh because I am confused with the next resolution I'm opposing with zoning and appeals. How come vacant agricultural land is 850 and residential 350? I'm not sure if he can do something with the zoning board of appeals, but I do support his nomination. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. I believe Brian Gallagher is here to testify on behalf of the nominee. Unfortunately, the nominee could not be here today. No, nothing to say. Okay members, any discussion? Seeing none, any objections or reservations? Noting no objections or reservations CR 95206 and resolution 26-56 CD1 has been adopted. Congratulations to the nominee. Turning to page five from the committee on zoning and planning, council member Kia. I move that committee report 762026 be adopted. >> Second. >> It's been moved then seconded. Council member Kiana for the explanation. >> This uh recommends the review and evaluation of the planning commission. I'm sorry it's uh resolution of recommendations on the review and evaluation of the planning commission pursuant to chapter 3 article 15 revised ordinances Honolulu 2021. >> Thank you Mr. Clerk. Do we have any testifiers? Is there anybody from the audience who'd like to testify? >> No, Mr. Chair, we have none. >> Thank you. Members, we're in discussion. >> Seeing none, any objections or reservations? Noting no objections or reservation CR76 2026 has been adopted. Moving to page six from the committee on budget. Council member Okimoto. Chair, I move that committee report 8326 be adopted and resolution 26-62 be referred to the committee on budget. >> Second. It's been moved and seconded. Council member Okimoto for the explanation >> determining the real property tax rates for the city and county of Honolulu for the fiscal year July 1st, 2026 to June 30, 2027. >> Thank you. I believe we have two in-person registered testifiers starting with Shelby Pikachu Billionaire followed by Natalie Iwasa. Aloha, Master Jedi. Pikachu shall be a billionaire back. So, yes, I oppose this bill because people don't know this at home watching on a little TV. I'm just going to read what residential class A is $3.50 per tax rate per $1,000 times your next net taxable real estate property value. Okay. When we go to agriculture, which is like Wii, how Bush Northshore class E is at $5.70 more than residential and vacant agriculture is $8.50 as a class H. Class I is residential. A tier one is $4. Why is residential people paying less in taxes than people with we know bus up land that needs help? I'm very confused because now the funds even though when the proposal I sent you off for support for letters the cemetery is classified under residential and I can see why now the HHL has under residential because it's cheaper at a tax rate but this hurts the people and the taxpayers who are having a lot of a land as you know from the Hawaiian Kingdom X Y and Z. So that's why I oppose the bill. Thank you very much chair. >> Thank you. Next we have Natalie Iwasa. Thank you. Good morning, chair, council members. Natalie Wasa for the record. I oppose this. I did submit written testimony, but I'd like to highlight some comments. Um, as you know, the um landlords do not get the homeowner's exemption, and that costs them at least $500 a year more if they're in the residential property, meaning that they have less than a million assessed value. if they have residential aid, then they pay at least 200 $2,500 more for a $1.2 million home. I also wanted to ask the council to look very closely at what the city is doing with respect to the homeowners audits, homeowner exemption audits. Now, um I totally support the idea of doing the audits. I think that it's um long overdue. However, they are requesting information that I believe is way over the top. They want a utility bill income, federal and Hawaii income tax returns, and this is to verify residency, property ownership, and whether that owner is renting property. Um, as you know, tax returns have a lot of information. Some of them are in excess of 20, 30, 50, 100 pages. It takes time to go through all that material and really it's not necessary in my opinion. The state has a whole database of ownership at the Bureau of Conveyances. That is public information. I can I can request a report anytime as long as I pay the fee. So why isn't the city working with that department to get the property ownership information? And the city also has the driver's license information, right? That's a database. You're supposed to keep your driver's license current for your residency. that would pro um provide residency information. So all this extra data is highly sensitive and not needed. The other part that really bothers me about this is that they are requiring people to um email or mail or come in person to deliver these documents. Email is not secure. And although they say redact the social security numbers, I know people don't pay attention. It's on almost every page of a return. So, if they miss one, that information is going unsecured to the city. Birth dates might be in there or um bank information is often in there. There's a lot of sensitive data that is going through the email system. So, I request that the city council review that process and take a look not only at the homeowners exemption audits, but all of the audits and exemption document requirements because they also go overboard in other areas. So, those are my comments for um for the real property taxes. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Is there anybody else who'd like to testify on the property tax rates this year? Aloha. Mr. Jul, please proceed. Hello, my name is Kelvin Juliki and u yeah be Juliana calling all our capunas to let their voices be heard and the tax illegal taxes. We shouldn't be paying tax. We should just give what needed volunteers whatever they just do when they got to do them. All this kind what you guys doing is it aloa kana. Thank you. >> Thank you. Would you like to testify sir? >> Konahiki number two. Aloh. >> Aloh. This city council like I the way I mentioned last time they got to waiver every property taxes for the wo victim hiva victim man victim wala victim and y and I you folks don't pass the bill to from the rail to go from alamana to uh how come you folks don't pass a bill for these victims they lost everything the property damage. What you folks can do is build a rock wall from both side of that stream. How far the erosion was and those people got to pay that property taxes for the boundary. Now all the debris at at Pety Ming Park can go right back in there to landfill area after the rock wall is built. Those people, the more they live, rebuild there, the more heavy rain, the house is all going to be gone anyway. And that place going to be created another lake Wilson. So you folks better think very very closely on this. The mayor went out there to see the stream. He didn't do anything. you folks, whoever the council person out there, he better act or she better act very very quickly for those victims. Aloha. Mahalo. >> Thank you. Is there anybody else who'd like to testify on resolution 26-62? Seeing none, members, we are in discussion. Council member Tupo. >> Thank you so much. Uh I want to thank Miss Wasa for her thoughts. I do think that in the budget discussions, we had suggested an amendment to have an extra staff person actually go over with residents some of these resident A or residential A tier one, tier 2 because we still feel like there's a lot of people that don't know what property tax class they're in or maybe when they need to change it or maybe when they've entered a new tax bracket and they're not aware of it. So perhaps her testimony can be given again when we have our committee hearings because those are valid points that could be done if we had a staff member doing that as far as the specificity of the audit and the things needed to inform residents. Secondly, it's something that I've shared with my community, but we should say it out loud is that the real property tax division in the city and county of Honolulu does have remission of property taxes for everybody who has had damaged property. This means that if you document the damage, you submit your claim, that you can defer your property taxes because you're not currently living in your home or there's repairs that are going on that uh prevent you from living in there. So, I just wanted to share that because it's important for our communities to know that aside from this bill, that real property tax division has something that's helping residents. Um, and there will be more fairs, community resource hubs coming up to help residents apply for that and they'll be helping people one-on-one. Thank you, chair. Thank you. Any further discussion, members? One last comment building on that. The my understanding is that the homeowners exemption audit, it's a random audit done to make sure that if you're claiming a homeowner's exemption, you actually live here on the island. You're not living in a foreign country or in another state. That's the idea. But to that effect, perhaps we can ask BFS to look at maybe not include social security numbers or other personal information. But to me it's it's a good idea. Any further discussion members? Seeing none, any objections or reservations? Not no objections or reservations. CR83-2026 has been adopted and resolution 26-62 has been referred back to the committee on budget. Moving to the top of page 7, Vice Chair Tupola. >> Chair, I move that bill 34, 2026 pass first reading. Second. >> Second. >> Thank you. It's been moved and seconded. Council member Kia for the explanation. >> Thank you, chair. Uh, bill 342026, which was requested by the administration, updates RO chapter 21A, which governs flood hazard areas to conform with current national flood insurance program regulations and incorporate requirements of the community rating system, which awards discounts on flood insurance premiums based on community's efforts to mitigate flood damage. To continue program eligibility, participating communities are required to adopt and maintain adequate flood plane regulations consistent with minimum program standards. Late last year, the city was notified that the updated flood flood insurance rate maps will become effective on June 10th, 2026. To to maintain program eligibility and avoid suspension from the program, the city must update RO chapter 21A before this June deadline. Suspension from the program may result in dire consequences, including non-renewal of existing flood insurance policies, loss of federal grants or loans for development and flood mitigation within flood hazard areas, loss of federal disaster assistance, and loss of federal mortgage insurance or loan guarantees in flood hazard areas. Therefore, I urge expeditious approval of this bill before the June 10th deadline. Mahalo. >> Thank you. I believe we have two registered testifiers starting with Shelby Billionaire. Hello Mako Master Pikachu Shelby Billionaire back feeling the forest uniforest with all of you here in beautiful Hav. So yes, I support your beautiful bill here for the flood hazard areas because you know Pakia ille was still flooded with dudu water. Took us many times to go through this. So, I want to support all the Mana, Vahina, and Kanaku who was out there to help support. Obviously, we have our team right here, Miss Shaina de la Cruz, who's her roof was uh collapsed on the first storm. There's still holes in there. Chair Waters, if you didn't know, it took us forever, but because she made the news cuz I don't want to blow up anyone's bad, you know, situation, but she's here. She has I got her permission because they do need help. Over 30 roofs were affected. There were rats, doodoo. So, they came to do a patch job from Hayana Management and it was just a patched job with tarp. It's still leaking. They said they're going to do a quote and ask for, you know, the bids out, but I'm not sure how long that's going to take. According to landlord tenant laws, that's supposed to be uninhabitable and they should be anywhere, someplace safe, hotel, somewhere. We did go to United Way. There is good news. We did try to stop by and get support. Just give me 10 seconds. share um $250 from United Way was given away in in peace in Nanakuli, but Miss Dela Cruz and us people in line when we got there, if you saw the live stream yesterday, were not able to get it. So, people did do it. It was a good job. There was a call for Airbnb for 10 days when you call 211 and you have to wait for a call back. But I'm not sure how that's going to affect all the other residents in Honolulu County and that's my concern. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. Next we have Dylan Armstrong. >> Aloha chair. Aloha members of the council, members of the public. My name is Dylan P. Armstrong. I've been an emergency manager since 2019. Normally for a bill under first reading, I would consider the testimony to be sort of prosaic and proforma on my part, but I may not have the chance to testify orally in the future. I uh echo uh council member Kia's urgency on this bill for the reasons she elaborated. I thought as an illustrative example for the council, it might also be useful to talk about the benefits of uh this bill. So, having successfully worked on flood mitigation assistance applications in the past, homeowners and city properties are eligible for elevation, reconstruction, flood proofing, acquisition, demolition, and removal under FMA. This is just one of the many FEMA grants that the city needs to better utilize in the future. This bill will further that eligibility and also competitiveness on grant applications. Mahalo. >> Thank you, Mr. Armstrong. Is there anybody else who'd like to testify? Tim Gary, please proceed. >> Yeah, good morning, Tim Gary. Um, I agree with this um, bill 34, but I also would like to bring to light why are we allowing people to rebuild year after year after year after year in the same area that floods all the time. and we expect something different to happen in the future. I also listened to the uh committee last week where chair waters proposed having secure sites in case of a cat 5 hurricane. If this all the damage from this rainstorm caused all this chaos and havoc, what the hell is going to happen when we get hit with a cat five? There's gonna be chaos all over this island. Couple more seconds, >> please proceed. >> I went through a couple emergencies on the mainland. One, the riot in LA and the earthquake in LA. And two things that happened during those both of those incidents was there was complete chaos where the police couldn't handle anything. The first thing that would happen during a Cat 5 storm, everything would be looted. All our supplies would be shut off. I encourage you to take Cherat's recommendation. just start preparing for a catastrophe because God knows when it happens there's going to be a lot of chaos and we got to have some imagination to mitigate this. These people that keep rebuilding and then or keep getting flooded and then want to help to rebuild over and over again, they should not even be living there in a flood zone. that that has to do with department planning and permitting. Why are they allowing them? Please take some heart to this because you guys are going to be gone in a couple years and then we'll have a new city council and we'll have to educate them all over again. It's like nobody looks at history. Have some responsibility. I appreciate it. Thank you. >> Thank you. Is there anybody else who'd like to testify on bill 34? Seeing none, members, we're in discussion. Council member Tupola. >> Thank you so much. I want to thank Council Member Kina for her leadership on this. Uh, you know, for us to be able to update these maps by June 10th of this year so that we can continue to remain qualified for any FEMA assistance or other funds that we need is very important, of dire importance in fact, as brought up today. And you know, I want to thank uh those in my community that are here. And I do hope that Hoana Management, who maintains a large complex in my area, will step up and do what's right for the residents because they've asked for this help. It is a property owned by HHFDC, managed by Hoana. And lastly, I just wanted to mention um just because this is important for our storms and our floods that we are having a resource fair in our community April 25th and the elderly affairs division of the city is putting it on because to date there are people who still need resources and the state is going to come out as well and hopefully help farmers and those in need to apply for the FEMA funds and on the city side we're going to help people to apply for any assistance that they need as well. So, thank you to all of those who spoke up today and thank you to everyone who's helping one another during these times being collaborative um making sure to show aloha in everything they do. Mahalo, chair. >> Thank you, Council Member Ka. >> Uh chair, I want to make a comment about the previous testifier. I do really appreciate, you know, um the directness with regard to the city as well as our state leaders and being better prepared. You know, the islands of Guam, the northern Marianas just in the last uh three days have been hit by super typhoon, 175 miles per hour. We wouldn't even be able to handle 100 miles per hour and they're used to it because they're in the typhoon belt. Uh so we're a little fortunate, but things have changed. But the reason it's critically important is because DC has changed. And it is this is not a one-off. This is not just the current administration. No matter uh the future uh executive branch uh leadership, I think the federal government is going to be uh irreparably changed so much that the state and local governments are going to have to step it up with regard to capacity building as well as resources for emergency preparedness and recovery. And we need to get used to that because when they start block granting FEMA grants uh down to down to us, right? That's the writing on the wall. We have to be prepared. And so during the during this budgetary session, I think with regard to the Department of Emergency Management, this is the time for the administration to really think about what DMM can do in concert with the rest of the uh city uh agencies. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any further discussion? Council member Wire. >> Thank you, Chair. I was just going to ask if um deputy director would be able to review the testimony. One of them is a comment and maybe just provide direct feedback or any response to the concerns that were raised. And I I think I see a verbal yes, but I'm sure other council members would like to review it as well, but just wanted to kind of signal that because I'd be interested in knowing the department's response. Uh good morning council. Uh Brian Gallagher, deputy director DPP. Yes, we'll we'll review and we'll get you a response. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any other questions for DPP? Seeing none, thank you for being here. >> Okay. Any further discussion, members? Seeing none, any objections or reservations? Noting no objections or reservations. Bill 34206 has passed first reading. Moving to page 8 from the committee on budget. Council member Okimoto. >> Chair. I move that committee report 8426 be adopted and bill 8 2026 pass second reading. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Council member Okimoto for the explanation >> relating to funds. Okay. >> Mr. Clerk, do we have any testifiers? Shelby Pikachu millionaire I believe. >> Aloha, Master Jedi Pikachu. Shelby a billionaire bank. I knew I'd be the only one in the force to testify because I read the bill and it says we want to support the fire prevention plans. Put a budget together. Well, normally I would say no to putting money in a budget for plans for fire and you just do it yourselves. But if you're going to spend money for these plans, I want to support the firefighters. And can can you please get them A5 Wagyu and, you know, some sushi, some blue final because they're risking their lives to save people out there. If you're going to give them money for plans, you know, they're not going to be hangry if they argue. You always should have stuff shoved down their throats without food. So, I want to support the barbecue and the people really fighting the fires. Thank you very much. Hello. >> Okay. Is there anybody else who'd like to testify on Bill 84? Excuse me. Bill eight. Seeing none, members, we're in discussion. Seeing none, any objections or reservations? Noting no objections or reservations. CR84 2026 has been adopted in bill 8, 2026 is passed second reading. Moving to the bottom of page 8. Council member Okimoto. >> I move that committee report 7726 be adopted and bill 22 2026 CD1 as amended. Pass second reading. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Council member Okimoto for the explanation >> relating to the executive operating budget and program for the fiscal year July 1st 2026 to June 30 2027. >> Thank you. We have a number of registered testifiers starting with Jonathan Fry from Shop. Aloha. Welcome. Good to see you. Uh chair, council members, good morning and thank you for the opportunity to testify on bill 22 2026 CD1. My name is Jonathan Fry. I'm the vice president of the State of Hawaii Organization of Police Officers representing the men and women of the Honolulu Police Department. I've also submitted written testimony and my comments here I hope will provide further insight on the potential impacts. Uh I'm here today not to argue over dollars, but to recognize and thank this council for taking a clear and intentional stand on police retention. The amendments incorporated into this draft send a strong message to our officers and civilian staff that their experience and commitment matter. The 5-year retention incentive for employees with 25 years of service is about more than a one-time payment. It acknowledges the value of institutional knowledge and encourages seasoned officers to stay on the job, mentor young officers, and to stabilize a department that has been challenged by vacancies and turnover. The recruitment referral bonus program shows that you understand retention and recruitment are two sides of the same coin. When uh you reward current employees for helping bring in qualified candidates who stay and succeed, you're investing investing in a culture where people want to work and stay. And for our civilian employees, the parking site recognizes that their support is essential to keeping officers on the street and the department functioning smoothly. Small quality of life changes like that can be the difference between someone staying with HPD or looking elsewhere. These provisions don't just support individual employees, they support safer patrol beats, faster investigations, better response times, and stronger community relationships. When experienced officers remain in their communities, they carry with them years of trust, local knowledge, and problem solving that you simply can't replace overnight. On behalf of our membership, I want to sincerely thank the entire council for centering police retention in this budget conversation and for working collaboratively with labor to address HBD vacancies in a constructive way. Uh we respectfully ask that you keep to use retention and recruitment provisions in Bill 22 as it moves forward. And we look forward to continuing this partnership to ensure Honolulu has the staffing it needs to keep our communities safe. Mahalo for your time and your commitment to the officers and civilians who serve the city every day. >> Thank you, Mr. Fry. I appreciate you being here as well. Next, we have Natalie Wasa. >> Thank you, Chair Natalie Wasa. For the record, just some comments. Um, first of all, I support the cut to the Office of Economic Development. There are a lot of resources out there for small businesses. Um, some of them are the Small Business Development Center and the Hawaii Technology Development Corporation as well as nonprofit organizations such as SCORE Hawaii and YW.CA. So, I think some of the effort or probably a lot of the effort done by the OED is already taken up in other areas and taxpayer funded with the state on some of that stuff. Um the other part I wanted to comment on is the proposed wa w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w in salary increases for the mayor directors and deputy directors and certain other um administrative staff. Uh it's proposed to be 4.71% which is higher than the inflation rate which they reported as 2.6%. It's higher than a number of the union agreements which cap out at about 4%. Some of them are uh 3.8%. 8% and this comes on a 4% raise last year. And if I remember correctly, I'm don't quote me on this, but I recall that the um administration also got about a 20 some percent increase back in 2023. So, you know, um 4.7% is not reasonable. When you look at the what's happening here with the city budget, what other people are making in other areas in the private sector, the people we'd have living out on the streets, it's not reasonable. And I submitted testimony to the salary commission. It wasn't given to the commission. Um you know, so I I I get that. Um, I hope the mayor speaks up because it was reported that he was might submit testimony. They have one more hearing to go and then that folks that's going to come down to you folks to put into the budget. So, I just wanted to really express my concerns about that. Um, a lot of people are upset if I can base my comment on what I see in the, you know, um, the media and the comments in social media. So, you guys have to really take a hard look at this and hopefully they will reduce that 4.7%. I'll have more to say on the um salary commission at your legislative budget bill. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. Next, we have Shelby Pikachu Billionaire. >> Hello, Mako. Master Jedi Pikachu Shelby billionaire back. Now, I came all this way today to oppose this bill because what it doesn't say on the agenda when you come here because I read it and I always do my testimonies on Sunday. That's why I'm still the number one testify in the universe for you guys here. Now, what I found out is this budget plus the next one we're going to testify on totals about $5.9 billion. This budget asking for is $4.85 billion. My name's Shelby, billionaire, not millionaire. That's ekah elua eolo eha el lima eono. You're asking for $6 billion. I testified last month on Zoom in Sabrina Grace's property with Miss Dela Cruz saying no. Why? Because you did not amend the bill like I asked you to last month because your emergency disaster relief only says $32.5 million. That is a joke. Josh Green, Governor just said we're $1.3 billion deficit. We need more support. So I would like you guys to go back rewrite this because I know how it works. Has to be in black and white otherwise it doesn't get changed. So, please increase the emergency relief disaster funds because this budget is for next year and we always have people right here in the audience who need your support. Thank you very much and that's why I oppose the bill the way it's written now. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. Next, we have Shaina Dela Cruz. Aloha and welcome. >> Aloh and good morning, Chair Tommy Waters, Vice Chair Andrea Tupola, and honorable members of the council. My name is Shaina Dela Cruz. I come before you today as a proud resident of the Nanakuli Homestead. A mother, a grandmother, and a servant to my community. I stand here not just on my own behalf, but for the voices in our community who often go unheard. Our kuna, our kei, and our families who are striving every day to live with dignity and stability here on Aahu. I am committed to building stronger communities through faith, unity, and action. Through my work and leadership, I continue to advocate for resources, transparency, and accountability that truly reach the people on the ground. I humbly ask for the opportunity to continue engaging with each of each of you to work together and addressing the needs of our people to ensure that no community, especially like the W night coast, is left behind. Mahala for your time and service, for your commitment to our island home. I stand in opposition of bills 22 and 23. Thank you, Andrea. >> Thank you. >> I believe we have a number of remote testifiers starting with Christine Pagano. Uh Mr. Chair, the testifier is not logged on. >> Okay. Next is Edward Fujioka. Uh good morning chair. Can you hear me? >> Yes, we can. Please proceed. Uh good morning uh chair, vice chair, members of the city council. My name is Eddie Fujioka. I am a former uh city paramedic. Um I'm not opposed uh per se um to the budget for uh emergency management. But what I'd like to comment is during my research, I looked at rating the EOCC's across the nation. On a scale of one to five, Honolulu's EOC ranks of two. LA County, New York City, Seattle ranks between a 4.5 and five. The main difference with this ranking is the Honolulu EOC is not staffed 247. they don't have a redundant uh backup center. If there's a fire, hazmat situation, a flood where they need to evacuate, there's no place that the EOC can move to to duplicate the work that they're doing today. They rely on partners. They rely on the state to assist. They also lacked um equipment something called a cow cellular on wheels where they can mobilize them to specific areas like Wua Y and I areas that flood because my understanding is the New York City firefighters that came to assist um had to um help the EOC establish cellular sites. Um, if you I would recommend I don't know if all city council members have been to the EOC. I would re recommend you take a visit and also go to the joint traffic management center and compare the facilities, the size and the communication between the two. The EOC that we have today is quite antiquated. It's a old building. It's 50 years old. um they need to put funding into the budget to improve the EU. So they need to hire a couple people to staff the UC 247 and that person's job is to do um uh live analysis of what's going on on the ground. >> Yeah. >> They also uh generate reports and recommendations to the director on whether or not the EOC should be activated. Um, thank you chair. I also submitted written testimony and I stand by that testimony. >> Thank you, Mr. Fujioko. Next, we have Kieran Pulk. >> Mr. Chair, the testifier is not logged on. >> Okay. Thank you. Is there anybody else who'd like to testify? Tim Gary. >> Yeah. Good morning, Tim Gary. I'd just like to piggyback on what Natalie brought up. Um, I'm on social security. I didn't get a 4.6% raise. I know it kind of deflected all the responsibility to the salary commission. But do you guys actually read the room and accepting this after the previous raises? I mean, seriously, there's a lot of retirees and they see this and they kind of wonder uh what the heck's going on. Which brings me to does government react to inflation or do they cause inflation? A lot of the things that you do actually causes inflation and then once you cause the inflation your reaction is to increase it. Do you understand what I'm saying? maybe take a couple courses in economics, but based on the past of your salary increase, which I think you guys should get a living wage, but the deflection of, oh, the salary commission did it. I think as a body as a whole, you should reject this latest wage. You know, you're making a lot of money. I get by on 40,000 a year. 40,000. And for you guys to do, you know, to increase this, it comes back to reading the room. I don't think if you took a a survey or a vote of the public, they would agree with it. Thanks for your time. >> Thank you. Is there anybody else who'd like to testify on the budget? Aloha, welcome. >> Hello, Chair Waters and council members. Um, I am Brian Mick. I'm here on behalf of the Disability and Communication Access Board and our acting executive director, Christine Pagano. We did submit testimony late yesterday in support of Bill 22. He probably did not have time to review it, so I will try and summarize it for you. We are specifically supporting CSD's budget request as several of the activities mentioned in their budget presentation would open up the possibility that they might restore prior policies and uh procedures relating to the issuance of disability parking permits. Um DEAB has MOAS with the four counties to issue temporary placards, firsttime longtime placards, and to replace any lost, stolen, or mutilated placards. In theory, someone who receives their certificate of disability form from their medical provider can go to the county that same day or perhaps the next day and be issued the placard at the counter. However, in November of 2023, CSB stopped allowing people to submit applications at their walk-in express windows and instead required people to make appointments via Aloha Q. The waiting time yesterday morning when I looked, depending on the location, varied between 1 and 15 days. 15 days is an unreasonable time for someone with a significant mobility disability to have to wait to get their parking permit. CSB stated that they hope to fill 26 vacancies by the end of next fiscal year, and we hope if they are successful, this will allow them to once again process disability parking permit applications at their express windows. Secondly, sometime last year, CSD's call center stopped being willing to make appointments for people who cannot go online or who struggle to navigate Aloha Q. Instead, they tell people that they need to go to a public computer at a library or go to a city location within Aloha Q kiosk to make their appointment. Again, this is very difficult for people with mobility disabilities to do, especially since they don't yet have their parking permit and can't therefore use an accessible parking space at these locations. As a result in the interm staff has been making the appointments on behalf of callers, but this really is a service the city should be providing its residents. Um CSC stated in their budget presentation that they hope to bring their call center inhouse and add several positions. We're hoping if they do this that this will allow them to resume assisting people in making appointments over the phone. In summary, we know that approving their request does not mean they are going to change their policies, but we're pretty sure if you reduce their request that will take that as an option off the table. So we urge you to pass Bill 22 with their requests intact, and we will continue to advocate to them that they revert to their prior policies. Thank you. Thank you. Any questions for the testifier? Seeing none. Thank you, Raquel. >> Good morning. Thank you, Raquel Auamoku. Um, I just wanted to offer support for um, OEER's budget. um seeing the impacts of recent and the support and the partnerships that have created a strong value between OAR and the state and our community has shown um just how valuable those partnerships are and how effective they can be and moving us forward and I believe that would be the case in the future as well. Thank you. >> Thank you. Is there anybody else who'd like to testify on Bill 22? Seeing none, members, we're in discussion. Council member Wire. >> Um, thank you, Chair. Um, and just briefly, I think there's a lot of good stuff in the budget that I I support, and so that's why I am disheartened that I'll be voting no. Um, but the bulk of that is just seeing the 70% reduction in positions with the Office of Econ economic revitalization. I think there's no doubt that the work has been uplifting for our community. um you know the business connectors and the incubators working to help folks scale up or you know for example the small business I talked to down at the hub at the waterfront Kakaako um just talking about that role of taking their product from concept to the market uh you know to sitting in Haula Civic Center with Kuna from Cuckoo Elderly walking them through the digital mapping uh or the internet access mapping and identifying how they can get access to internet services to uh you know the work on the ground. Right now in the community every day I'm texting with community members and connecting them to folks either at OAR or other stakeholders to respond to the needs of vulnerable communities and to our ranchers and farmers and beyond. Uh and so I think well beyond disaster response, right? Um you know, the bulk of why I spent two weeks without leaving the district was just the concern of of folks falling through the gaps. And uh I think that's a concern in the reality, even aside from the storm, folks have been falling through the gaps well before and I think they're going to continue to as we work to improve process. But I do know that seeing um community step up and small businesses and broader business community and our faith community and our nonprofits and our civic clubs and our community associations and our coaches and sports teams and schools and neighborhood boards. Um government is not the solution to everything. But what we are and can be is a partner for when the community and nonprofits and small businesses tap out, right? They reach their limits and there are certain things that we can do to help them overcome our barrier those barriers. I think in disaster response, right, as they gear up to deploy both the small business grant pro program and work on the language access program and are working hopefully with the support of the administration to access funds for the farmer program. I think it goes into our housing needs and our feeding our people and ensuring that they're safe both in terms of disaster response going forward and just everyday life. And so really that's what it's about for me. Like you know the partnership with the state and the feds and the community means that the work that OAR is doing is real like real people, real businesses. You can go to these events and talk to them, you know, and many of them have submitted testimony, some on the capital budget, I think through the filing process. But in terms of the impact that the city does and the work that we do when we're confronting economic challenges and scarcity, um I think it's more important for government to be ready to step up and to support and to be ready to uplift our community. And so that's that's why I'll be voting the way I am. But I'm hopeful that we can uh adjust the budget going forward. Thank you, chair. >> Thank you. Any further discussion? Council member dos Santos. >> Thank you, Chair. Um, I share many of the same concerns about the Office of Economic Revitalizations budget as my colleague um from the Northshore. I uh wanted to add two other uh plugs. Uh you know, I'm not on the budget committee, so this is my opportunity to express them, but um I see folks from the prosecuting attorney's office here with respect to crime and safety and other issues. I I do think that we can go further um in supporting that department to make sure that they have adequate staffing to uh provide for the throughput of trying these cases, making sure that criminals have their day in court in a timely way, and we can also make sure we're prosecuting them uh in a timely way. The other final addition that that I'll add and I've been an advocate for uh you know transparency and accountability and that also means some of these housekeeping changes. We are leaving money on the table because we are not able to lease out city spaces in a timely way. We've done some of the back of the napkin math. This is hundreds of thousands of dollars every year just in Chinatown alone, just in a handful of the buildings that the city owns. We're leaving money on the table. This is money that we could be using for a variety of things. And um Bill 10 has not yet been referred. This would give us hundreds of thousands of dollars a year if we're able to lease out these spaces in a timely way. And everybody talks about a tight budget year and yet we're not willing to do things that would provide the city with revenue without raising taxes on the public. Um I I do think this is an important thing that we need to do and move forward on. So thank you. >> Thank you. Any further discussion? Council member Cordderero. >> Thank you, Chair. I do have question for Director Kuano um from budget and fiscal services uh as it relates to some of the discussion that we had about the budget. Director Kowano, I know that um in relation to the city budget, there was a mention a week or two or two ago uh to look to adding recovery efforts funding into the operating budget. And I was wondering if there's a clear amount and timeline of how much and when you would be looking to place that in just so that we know. Um, and I do have a followup to to to that question as well. >> Okay. Chair Waters, Andy Kowano, director of budget and fiscal services. Honorable council members, um, we've learned a lot during the last two weeks since the committee on budget meeting. Um, one thing that has happened recently is that the president has declared uh uh the emergency uh uh and uh but what has happened is uh we've we've also find found out that the u the breadth of what he's going to of what the uh US government will cover through FEMA will be um much more narrow in scope. um they're going to focus um providing public assistance in categories A and B. We just found that out today. So category A is uh debris removal and uh category category B is for um the um emergency response type expenses in general. Um we are going to provide uh in the near future uh what we believe we need for um FY26 uh has nothing to do with the budget for 27 uh for 26 because uh the governor has uh declared uh the emergency provided emergency proclamation will be able to um u extract funds from the fiscal stability funds as needed and then report to council on what the funds are used for uh per ordinance. So, we're going to do that. Uh for next year, uh for FY27, the plan is to um continue to work with FEMA on on the larger longer term projects that we have to figure out exactly how much um we are going to receive in public assistance, if anything. Uh and then uh as we as we finalize the estimates of what we're going to need um address address uh the fact as to how much we're going to need from fiscal stability at that time. Our understanding is that the governor will continue to extend his emergency proc. Uh and right now uh our understanding is that it's indefinite. uh you know it's going to it's going to continue on as we recover because it takes a long time. So for FY26 coming back to where we are now uh what we've been doing is uh expanding savings we have in our budget for 26 to especially pay for um expenses that fall under uh the normal function of our first responders for instance. Uh and then um our department of emergency management has a provisional for um uh disaster response. Uh it's it uh it was set at $7.5 million and uh where where we have expenses that um our director of emergency management and managing director signed off on. uh we'll be able to um use that fund to uh cover uh expenses related to storm recovery. So, we're going to we're going to use what we have um ex exhaust our resources uh in FY26, figure out what we need, and then um if we have to as a last resort, extract funding from the fiscal stability fund. uh for FY27. We're not going to include anything in the budget as of this time, but continue to work with FEMA uh and uh consultants that we engage with as needed to figure out, you know, the exact amount we're going to need in terms of um funding net of all public assistance, you know, insurance. We have to figure out how much u we're going to be insured for. We're going to have to figure out if there are other grants that have um a better um a better um tie-in to the kind of um expenditure that we um are going to have to incur. A good example for instance is um the storm has caused bridge damage and in some cases uh the bridges are covered by FHWA grant monies. uh to the extent that we can use monies from FHWA, we're going to do that first uh and then uh figure out um you know what we we're going to get covered uh through public assistance through the FEMA program. >> Okay. Thank you, director. That is a different tune from oh, we may have to look at what would have have to be freed up or opened up in the FY27 budget to a week and a half ago. So, um that's good or interesting to hear. Um and uh I guess still looking at your timeline for when um the when you'll be placing categories A and B um uh in the timeline for this fiscal year, which is not the discussion right now. Um but also um you mentioned that within each city budget, each operating budget, there's a provision for department of emergency management and those uh first responder uh response. Is that what you said? No, you have it you have it kind of like mixed up. Okay, go ahead. >> So, each department has a functional role >> to the extent that there they have the capacity to fund recovery costs incurred due to the storms and there are three, right? Kona 1, Kona 2, and the April storm. Um, they're going to fund what they can. uh to the extent that they've exhausted their department funding, they're going to work with the director of emergency management and um you know with approval of the managing director used a provision for disaster preparedness and response. Our our budget for FY26 was $7.5 million. uh the budget line item for that provisional is under the miscellaneous >> yes >> function. So it's not in each department. It's it's by itself. Uh and um the um administration of the fund is through dem. So we're going to exhaust that. Uh and then once all of that is exhausted, we will have a number that we can share with council at that time as to what we believe we may need from the fiscal stability fund. >> Okay. Thank you very much for that clarification. Thank you, chair. >> Thank you. Just follow-up questions. Very good questions. You said a couple really important things that the 2027 budget, which is bill 22, you're not going to suggest to the budget committee amendments to account for future disaster preparedness and mitigation. Um to be a little more specific, we're not going to propose uh budget requests that would um tap or use funding from the fiscal stability fund because we don't have enough information yet. We've determined over the last two weeks that it's too early on at this point in time. >> Okay. The the second point you made was that um you will be tapping the fiscal stability fund this year and can you >> as a last resort if we have to for FY26 uh we will come up with an amount that's needed. >> Okay. I >> we want to exhaust all of our department savings first and exhaust the provision for disaster preparedness and response. >> Okay. How much money is currently in the provision for disaster preparedness and response? >> $7.5 million for FY26? >> 7.5. And then you said there's another account called the miscellaneous account that's under dem. >> The money is the provisional. Yeah. No, the provisional for disaster preparedness. Yeah. >> Is under the miscellaneous section of the budget. >> I see. I see. >> I'm sorry. the budget bill to be more precise. >> Okay. Okay. So, we're talking about the same fund, 7.5 million. I guess the concern is that a few days ago, managing director talked about 50 to$100 million in damage to city properties and and paying overtime quite frankly for all the crews that have been out there cleaning the streams and the police officers who've been working overtime. How are we going to pay for that? Um, with regard to overtime, you know, we have um savings that we can exhaust first. Um, we um we're continuing to incur overtime because we have crews still doing cleanup uh in Wua. We found out this morning that it's continuing. So, we're going to have to track that overtime. Um savings are going to have to be exhausted. uh if we do our jobs right, you know, in terms of salary dollars for the departments that are heavily involved in terms of their function in the cleanup, we shouldn't have any uh salary savings. We should exhaust all of it. So there shouldn't be, you know, any lapsing of funds come June 30. Um and then uh we we tap the provisional as I mentioned earlier, the $7.5 million. uh at the time that provisional is fully tapped through emergency management uh we'll come up with an amount that um we'll be able to share with council at that time. >> Okay. And put another way that the the money that is typically lapsed will be used to do disaster mitigation. >> It'll be on a Yes. Uh correct um council chair. It'll be um managed on a department by department basis. uh especially those uh that have functional roles that that uh coincide with cleanup recovery. >> Okay, that makes sense. Right. As you know, members, we lapse about $410 million a year in unrestricted money. So, I'm imagining that's the money that you'll be tapping to to take care of the >> We're going to we're going to do our best to expend as much as we can. >> Okay. Thank you, sir. before we tap the fiscal stability fund. >> Perfect. Thank you, members. Any follow-up questions? Council member Okimoto. >> Thank you, Chair. Good morning, director. This is just tagging on. I know that you said that you don't have the date and the numbers. You I'm trying to get a clear idea of when we will have these numbers and outside of the seven and a half million, you I'm guessing you have some kind of ballpark number of what we're looking at. We have we have the very very rough preliminary numbers that managing director provided a few weeks ago. It those numbers haven't changed very much. >> Same as we have um you know it uh those numbers reside in the uh the disaster analysis uh maintained by emergency management. Some of those numbers are rough, very rough preliminary estimates based on projects of similar type, but they haven't done, you know, the the more scientific type analysis. They haven't uh met with contractors uh to get estimates to really to really uh tighten things up. Uh where we have um building structures that were damaged, uh we have insurance recovery. FEMA won't provide public assistance on what should be covered by our insurance. So, we're going to have to figure out what's going to be insured. Um and as I mentioned earlier, there are some types of um repairs we have to make that um are typically not covered by insurance but may be covered by other types of grants like bridges for instance that you know suffered severe um erosion in the foundation and foundation got compromised. uh to the extent that we can get um and I I believe we're working on uh FHWA grant right now. To the extent we can get that kind of grant uh we're going to we're going to um access those funds first uh and then uh see what we can collect from FEMA after that. >> Okay. Okay. I know as the as our timeline diminishes quickly, I'm trying to get a clearer idea because the numbers that were presented to us from the MD and the and his office, they were like you said, >> very very rough. >> Very rough. So, we believe >> I'm trying to hope to get I'm trying I'm hoping that we can get a clearer idea as soon as possible. And I know that you said you're working on it, but we also would like to see clearer numbers. >> Yes. Uh we've been working on uh fine-tuning those numbers the last two weeks and as I mentioned uh we've talked to FEMA representatives who are on on ground right now and um you know they essentially told us that there's a lot of work to do. Some of these uh projects if you will included in the uh $und00 million amount provided a few weeks ago will take years to be addressed. Not not one year or two years maybe three or four years. They're going to take years to address. But the amount that's the money that's going to be used this year is based on the initial I guess recovery and we have to prepare for next fiscal year. So when you say using the salary savings from these fundamental or the departments that relate to it, your anticipation is that those again will all be gone based on the overtime that was initially provided. But also you're saying that there's still people out there doing overtime to for the recovery >> that uh budget chair. That's correct. And um what I can tell tell you is that we've established um storm codes. So we have um KL um KL1, KL2, Konolo 2. We have the uh April storm codes. So, we're tracking uh all of our current expenses and overtime costs by by storm uh as best we can so that uh when we um you know come up with the amount that we feel should be covered by for instance the provisional for disaster recovery we um we have we we use it appropriately. Uh and then it should even help uh future budgeting. So for FY28, when budgeting comes up for FY28, we have to make sure that we budget on the current level of services and and take out all of the, you know, one-time uh storm cost that we're incurring right now. So, it's it's creating a lot of extra work, but um I I can say right now based on what we've learned, uh it would be premature during the budget process to try to guesstimate a number uh in terms of what's going to be used from fiscal stability and appropriated because it's too early. >> Okay. Thank you very much, director. Thank you, chair. >> Thank you. Any follow-up questions? We're in discussion right now amongst council members. Council member Tupo. >> Thank you so much, Chair. I wanted to make a few comments about amendments to this bill, bill 22, the FY operating budget. One, um, how it was discussed. Two, some of the things we added, and then three, kind of work that's needed. First off, I I wanted to thank Officer Fry for testifying. The HPD priorities that I added into this budget came straight from the vacancy task force report. This is a uh task force that HPD participated in CHOP as well as HGA. There was members of the mayor's administration and as well DHR. So we thought very uh carefully and methodically about what was going to be needed because the phrase that was said today is true, which is there is no recruitment without retention. So we did our part with having the $25,000 signing bonus. However, our net gain is not as much because of retirements and other factors that also have officers exiting. So, we need to take that into consideration. And I will say thank you to the budget chair and of course my colleagues for supporting these amendments because the total of the amendments that I put in was 2.3 million. Let's remember that in FY24 HPD laps 50.5 million and in FY25 the lapse was uh I believe around 20.2 million. We don't know what the lapse will be, but I do believe that the ask is reasonable. It's not a lot. I do I was disappointed to hear that they opposed it and I know that all the agencies opposed all of the things we said, but at the end of the day, it's a small ask that I think will yield a great return. So, thank you for those who supported that. Secondly, I wanted to make comments about OAR. We had a a lengthy conversation. For those who um aren't aware, there is a suggestion to cut positions in OAR. So the comments that I made was about the function that OEER plays. So I did send a letter to managing director, but I'll say some snippets of the letter to maybe make it clear in the charter as well as the two audits that came out. Uh hero and the city audit suggesting that OAR get back into its core function which is economic strategy aligning departments and addressing systemic barriers to economic growth. So essentially we are asking OAR to be the umbrella organization of all the programs and not the administrator of more programs. If I can draw a comparison that might help us all to understand in the homeless realm we have partners in care that's kind of the leader of all the homeless entities. We need OAR to be the leader the economic leader talking with departments setting policy strategy even in some of the bills that we have advising us on things that might affect the economy. Thirdly, there are things in this bill that specifically mention my district, which is why I'm voting yes, even though there's more edits that need to be made. On page three, it talks about the 25,000 for a gate at Wai Community Center. And actually, DFM heard my plea and they're fabricating the gate now. So, we'll be taking that out in the next edit. But I think this is why we have these conversations because each of our districts needs specific things. I thank the budget chair for incorporating improvements for Wide District Park as well as Copuni Park. Lastly, I want to thank director for the updates on the storm costs. You know, myself, I was out in the street with DFM on March 24th, standing on Elie Elie Road for 12 hours. DFM came out in the morning and I was grateful, but the kind of work that we had to do lasted three days. So, I know for a fact that a lot of the guys that were standing out there with me were were hitting overtime. All the DFM guys were hitting overtime. HFD was hitting overtime. DOT was contracting people so that we could pump the water off that street and then it didn't even end there. We had to continue to incur overtime because of the next Konalo and the next Konalo. So, thank you to the budget chair for listening so diligently to what was just shared. Lastly, I thank my community member Shaina for her eloquent testimony and of course my colleagues for the support of the things that I think are important. This bill is going to go back to committee for more edits. So those people that have more suggestions, I request that you contact my office and we can try to go back at it and add in things that we think are important. Thank you, chair. In support, thank you. Any further discussion, council members? Seeing none, I know there are people who raised their hands, but I had already closed uh public testimony. Um, so I'd like to take the vote, and I believe there's a no vote, so it calls for a roll call. Roll call, Mr. Clerk. Council member Cordderero. >> Hi. >> Council member Doss Santos Tam. >> Hi. >> Council member Kia. >> Hi. >> Council member Nishimoto. >> Hi. >> Council member Okimoto. >> Hi. >> Council member Toba. >> Hi. >> Council member Tupola. >> I. >> Council member Wire. >> No. >> Chair Waters. >> Hi. >> Mr. Chair. There are eight eyes and one no. >> Thank you. CR77206 has been adopted and bill 22 2026 CD1 has passed second reading. Moving to the top of page nine, council member Okimoto. >> Chair, I move that committee report 7826 be adopted and bill 23 2026 CD1 as amended pass second reading. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Council member Okimoto for the explanation >> relating to the executive capital budget and program for the fiscal year July 1st, 2026 to June 30, 2027. >> Thank you. I believe we have a number of registered testifiers starting with Natalie Wasau. >> Thank you, Chair Natalie Wasa. For the record, just some comments on specific items in the bill. On page 13, it talks about curb ramps and funding for various locations. Um I would like you to take a look at the um intersection of Pensacola and Kino. Um a number of years ago, this was a long time ago, I saw a person in a wheelchair exiting a driveway coming up Pensacola and then going around the corner because there's no curb ramp there. I believe today there is still no curb ramp there. So if you can, if that's true, please put in a provisal for adding a ramp there. Um, with respect to the homeless and uh, affordable housing, there are millions of dollars in funding going into this bill. And I ask you again to take a look at the exemptions we are spending um or not getting revenue for exemptions going to uh labor unions, business leagues, all kinds of nonprofit organizations that are called they fall under the charitable um ordinance in our um in our city laws and they are not charitable. They should not be receiving those exemptions. Uh, and that's millions of dollars a year that we could be saving on that. Um, with respect to Kami Liwiki Community Park, the 100,000 for the pickle ball support that, I was so happy to see the gift to the city um, last month. I'm just surprised at the cost. However, it just seems a little bit high. Um, with respect to Cocoa Head District Park, there's a $325,000 for parking lot expansion project. I oppose that. there's a lot of parking there and I know that that parking lot gets full, those lots get full, especially when there were baseball games and that kind of thing. However, I would like the city to to um motivate or encourage um families to take other means of transportation so that we don't have to have so many cars parking and take up asphalt in our parking and recreation or uh parks and recreation areas. Um, with respect to the bus acquisition, we're going to spend $35 million. This includes, I think, handy vans as well. I have asked multiple times for the city council to have a discussion on those cameras because um, on the outside of each bus, there are, I think, a minimum of six cameras. And when they go past, like, for example, the h the road I live on, they are recording the outsides of those homes. And I've got a picture of one downtown. You can see clearly what what's going on at at that time when they go by. And those recordings are like a thousand or more per month. They keep those um recordings for 30 days. And I think you know we should understand what kind of security is available on those uh access to that those recordings because it would be very easy for somebody to piece together somebody's time frame. Oh, they leave at 7:00 in the morning. They come back at 6 p.m. Their house is vacant all day. And it's just something that really should be discussed. One more point if I may. Um there's a the deletion of the landfill funding, $30 million. This is for the new landfill. I oppose this. Um, you know, we've heard many times that the cap the the capacity of the Wimmonalo landfill is is going to be reached very soon and we need to do something and and in order to do that, we need to have the funding for it. So, those are my comments. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any questions for the testifier? See none. Thank you. Next we have Shelby Pikachu Billionaire. Aloha. The Jedi Force is back. Pikachu Shelby Billionaire. So I oppose this bill again because this is 1.53 billion and you still have the me 32.5 million despite everything I heard. So appreciate you guys saying that. You're going to take it back to committee but which is what we witnessed right here. Only Matt wire said no. Everyone else said yes. So we know it's mob rules majority rules and it's going to go to third reading next month. So yes, I'm going to oppose the bill again next month because I want to see the amendments in black and white and how it's going to affect the people who have to suffer in mold, rats, asbestous, black mold. Would you go home today to feed your family when the roof is still leaking with rats, mold, brown doodoo, doodoo water? No. Right. So I want you guys to have some compassion and figure this stuff out cuz 32.5 million still is measly nothing drop in the bucket. As you guys just discussed yourselves over here, they want to hear the guy on the other cross of me and I'm Asian. When I watch an outside listening, we can see the Asian eyes and you start talking bubbles to me and doesn't make no sense. And I'm pretty aim because I ran this all through AI. So I know the numbers. I know what I'm talking about. We don't got time to go through my entire testimony, but we got to do something to change your hearts and feel the force because our people are suffering. Northshore, Auntie Blancha, they called me Pikachu for help cuz we called 911, DFM, everything moving about. Darius, Kila, Samantha, Chris Moro, Antrop, we're all busy. were stuck cuz they dis said this is not responsibility. Pa's private road owned by Pine Ridge. We can't help you. We can't help the church. We can't help anything. You're on your own. Where do we pump the water? My solution to all of you is call the Army Corps of Engineers. Hawaii agent general right above that's all US Donald Trump lease land for a dollar whatever a year. Pump dump it all there. They're spending two billion dollars on a war running from the Epstein files. Make the feds pay for it. Help the people. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. We have Shaina Dela Cruz. I believe she uh is not present. She did testify in opposition earlier today. Next we have Yuki Agressi. >> Mr. Chair, the testifier is not logged on. >> Okay. Nading Takai Day. >> Hello. Aloha. Naen day, bill 2326. Um, thank you for this opportunity to speak to you today. I am Naen Day, formerly Naen Takai. I am the sister of the late Congressman K. Mark Takai. I'm an avid aquatic supporter. I am the current chairperson of World Aquatics Masters Committee. I did an adult learn to swim workshop for the city and county of Honolulu aquatic staff two years ago. I submitted written testimony, but I wanted to speak to you guys personally because this is true to my heart. I'm in strong support of the budget item addressing the project of the Kmart Kai Veterans Memorial Aquatic Center, V-Mac. Hawaii is surrounded by water, yet nearly half of the keis cannot swim, which is totally shocking. Per CDC, Hawaii is second in leading the states for drowning. Drowning is the leading death of keis which can be prevented. Statistics also show that if a parent does not know how to swim, the likelihood of their child not knowing how to swim is 60%. That's unreasonable. This item in the budget addresses the modernization of VMAC. Modernizing VMAC directly addresses making VMAC a multi-purpose aquatic facility. You guys have multi-purpose gyms. This is a waterbased activities. The benefits is swim lessons, drowning prevention for all ages, water aerobics, fitness classes, recreational swimming, competitive training and events, accessibility, multi-generational activities, aquatic fitness activities which are low impact, which combat obesity and also helps with mental health. So, this budget item for this project is not about just fixing broken bulkheads, old blocks, bathrooms. It's about creating a safer, more functional, multi-purpose aquatic center in Hawaii that the community deserves. It transforms what's a limited safe compromised pool into a vibrant community resource that saves lives, develops athletes, promotes fitness across all ages, makes efficient use of your public facilities. This project tackles Hawaii's challenge of high drowning rate despite living on an island surrounded by water, limited access to a quality facility, and the need to have a versatile venue that serves teams and the everyday ohana. So, please support this budget item. It's very dear to my heart. Swimming literally saves lives. So, mahala for your time and dedication and making Hawaii safe. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Is there anybody else >> question? >> Oh, any questions for the testifier? >> Seeing none. Thank you so much for being here today. Do we have any other testifiers who'd like to testify on bill 22 bill, excuse me, 23 23. Seeing none, members, we're in discussion. Council member Tupola. Thank you, chair. I appreciate the time. Thank you everyone who testified. These two bills represent the annual budget for the whole city. And if we don't keep it moving or if everyone votes no, then it becomes the underlying bill that was given to us by the administration. So, the process that we're going through right now here is bringing our community's thoughts, concerns, um, needs to amendments so that this bill can reflect more what we think needs to happen on the ground. I just have four comments about why I'm voting yes on this bill. Some concerns, but again, we're going to go back to committee and continue to deliberate, change, and suggest more amendments. First off, anybody who is from Y and I should be in favor of this because I cut out 30 million for the landfill. And let me just be very clear. We were told that there would never be another landfill on the west side. And I was shocked and surprised to see this amendment in the budget. That was never told to me. It was the first time I saw it was when we had our hearing. In addition to that, the land that's being proposed to be purchased is owned by Campbell Land Company and they were shocked as well. In fact, their land is not for sale and I'll get that in writing from them. I do agree that there needs to be forward progress, which is why I suggested that we have a task force so that we can continue to invest our money in technology upgrades that will take us away from the use of landfill and take us completely into reuse, reduce, recycle at the maximum level that we really need to do because we live on an island. So, I thank the budget chair for hearing me out on that and I know I'm going to have to continue to lobby and and advocate for that because I know how important it is, but at the same time, I think it's a great opportunity for us to pivot into a better future for our island. Secondly, there's a few things in my district that are mentioned in this bill. Kana Ana Ole um ocean safety substation that they're going to redo on a thirdly um I do have VOCA which is villages of Capo. So if you look in this bill there's 10 million that they put in here but just for everyone's clarity this 10 million is not coming from the city. This 10 million is going to come from the state villages of Capo is currently being managed by HHFDC. So hopefully and I thank and I applaud this administration for finally taking the land transfer because it's been 20 years that that community has waited for the land to come over to the city so that we can address abandoned cars that we can enforce parking because as of right now there's no city services in that area of Capo because it's not owned by the city. So hopefully that happens. I do have concerns about the 34 million for James which is the J Japan Institute that's in Hawaii Kai. You know it is Kame school's land. I do believe that for Pawah's sake that all the land that she has that we still have are remain in Kame school's hands. Lastly, there was 3 million that was put into this budget for a resilient shelter and I I thank the budget chair for keeping it in because unfortunately it was opposed by the administration. I think due to the comments that were made today from testifiers as well as the administration, we have to think heavily about resilience hubs in all of our districts. I don't think we should take it lightly. I don't think in the times of storm is when we prepare, we prepare now. So hopefully when we come back back around to committee, the department of emergency management can work with us on a plan that we can invest this money into our community. It doesn't have to be that we buy land or build a building. It could be that we choose a a site within each of our districts that maybe already exists or something that we know could provide the services that we need. There are a lot of families that were providing resilience hubs out of their own homes and some of those families got tired of it because that's lots of people coming through their property. They have to stay up all night to help. We need to provide that service to our community. So, I'm looking forward to the edits and I thank the budget chair for her diligence as well as her staff. Thank you, chair. >> Thank you, Council Member Kia Ano. Thank you. Thank you, Vice Chair Tupola, for reminding us about um some concerns we may we may have with these bills and yet the need to move it forward. During the budget committee, I had opposed this bill because of my opposition to a provision which I'm going to talk about, but I will only be voting with reservations today because I want the bill to move forward. for my district. I have at least $180 million of uh infrastructure projects uh in this budget and um it's one of the most important um items that we deal on an annual basis. I would like to talk about the provision relating to Kameha School's lands. First, I want to just say that the city should not be in the business of acquiring any AliE trust lands. I have dedicated 30 years of my life for the return of lands to the Hawaiian people. Uh opposition to the alienation to the extent possible of our public land trust and alienation of any allei trust lands. I oppose efforts by the kame schools in recent cells in Halai, Hawaii Island, Royal Hawaiian in Wy Ki and most recently Surfco in W Pahu. It needs to stop. I think that uh Kame schools could do a better job in community engagement in general, including in Hawaii Kai. They should be meeting with all of the stakeholder groups. I do know that there were there was a meeting held, but I think they could do a better job. As the largest land owner in Hawaii, Kameha Schools needs to be present in all of our communities. They cannot just be staying at their headquarters and making all these decisions uh at Quiha Plaza. They need to be working with the council members whose districts are impacted by some of the uh lands that they have and they need to do a better job with community engagement including engaging with the beneficiaries of the Kamehare schools in the future selling of any lands. Thank you. >> Thank you. Just want to address the Camiloi, excuse me. the Hahayani land acquisition. You know, I agree with both of you that Kame schools needs to do a better job in communicating what their intent is because you know, Haha Valley, which I know council member Tupola, you grew up right there. You know, the community doesn't want a 400 foot tower right there and Kame schools is not communicating their plans on what to do at that property. Also, there's farmlands in the back of Camiloi Valley in Hawaii Kai that the farmers there are really concerned because they don't have long-term leases. The land under the Kahala Hotel and Wai Golf Course is also owned by Kame schools. What's going to happen with that? Are they going to sell that property as well? So, I understand your concern, but advocating for the Haha Valley residents as well as the livable Hawaii Kai who is concerned about future development. Um, the sustainable community plan, by the way, for Hawaii Kai in East Honolulu does say, you know, no future development except for one spot and that's above the the shopping center. So maybe this is a way to get comments schools to talk to us and let us know what they plan to do. But thank you for your comments. Appreciate that. Any further discussion members on bill 23? Seeing none, Mr. Clerk, are we required to do a roll call on this? Nope. No roll call. Okay. Any objections or reservations? Roll call. Okay. Sorry. Roll call. Mr. Clerk. Council member Cordderero. >> Hi. >> Council member Doss Santos Tam. >> Hi. >> Council member Kia. >> Reservations. >> Council member Nishimoto. >> Hi. >> Council member Okimoto. >> Hi. >> Council member Toba. >> Council member Tupola. >> Hi. >> Council member Wuire. >> Hi. >> Chair Waters. >> Hi. >> Mr. Chair. There are nine eyes. >> Thank you. CR78 2026 has been adopted and bill 23206 CD1 has passed second reading. Moving to the bottom of page nine, council member Okimoto. >> I move that committee report 7926 be adopted and bill 24206 pass second reading. >> Second move and seconded. Council member Okimoto for the explanation >> authorizing the issuance and sale of general obligation bonds and bond anti anticipation notes of the city and county of Honolulu in a maximum principal amount equal to the aggregate of the amounts appropriated in the capital budget ordinance of said city and county for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2027 and specified in said ordinance to be financed from the proceeds of the sale of such bonds and to be expended from the general improvement bond. bond fund, the highway improvement bond fund, solid waste improvement bond fund, the housing development special fund, or the taxable general improvement bond fund. >> Thank you. I believe Shelby billionaire registered to testify. >> Aloha. I'm back from the force. So, I'm opposing this because it's very confusing reading over your executive budget bill for $4.8 8 billion then 1.53 billion and I'm opposing most of the bills following just to let you know because you guys made me rack my brain moving how much billions of dollars it's already six billion going to 7 billion with the rail but what you're saying with the bonds and obligations because if Pikachu is confused I know the average viewer at home watching this on Olo TV has no clue what we're talking about except for jail bonds but what it says in my simple English is that it's going to go into the general funds to pay the principal interest tax and we the taxpayers the people still left behind me in the room, those who are watching, we the taxpayers have to pay for it all. So if you guys mess up the debt, which you guys are with the rail and everything, multi-billion dollars in debt service, which is the other part over the bonds and obligations go because the economy sucks and Donald Trump's at war. This affects us the taxpayers with inflation. So of course, I'm going to oppose this and you guys are going to pass this again. You're going to all say yes again because you need to move it forward. Yes, I know how the force works. So please continue with the show. Thank you very much. Thank you. I don't have any other registered testifiers. Is there anybody else who'd like to testify on Bill 24? >> Okay, seeing none, members, we're in discussion. Seeing none, any objections or reservations? Excuse me. Roll call. Yes. Roll call. Mr. Clerk. Council member Corduro. >> Excused. >> Council member dos Santos Tan. I >> council member Kia. >> I >> council member Nishimoto. >> Hi. >> Council member Okimoto. >> I >> council member Tolba. >> Council member Tupola. >> I. >> Council member Wuire. >> Hi. >> Chair Waters. >> I. >> Mr. Chair. There are eight eyes. One member is excused. >> Thank you. CR79 and CR79 2026 has been adopted. Bill 242026 has passed second reading. Members moving to the top of page 10. Council member Okimoto. >> Chair, I move that committee report 8026 be adopted and bill 26 2026 pass second reading. >> It's been moved and seconded. Council member Okimoto for the explanation >> relating to the to the Honolulu Authority for Rapid Transportation operating budget for the fiscal year July 1st, 2026 to June 30, 2027. >> Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Do we have any testifiers? Shelby billionaire. Aloha. The master Jedi Pikachu is back. So because you already read my testimony and you already heard how my feelings are, Pikachu Shelby wants to tell you how much money you guys are going to reallocate. So from 725 million you guys are going to reallocate. 548.1 million is into the general funds and 172.6 million is going into debt service. And this is just for your operating budget. What the heck is going on? I just complained about your $6 billion ass for next year. Now you guys are moving about close to 800 million, close to $1 billion. Do any of the people in the room know me behind what's going on? We got 1.3 billions in damage right now, confirmed by Josh Green. You guys need FEMA's help, Heima's help, but we got local people in the hubs who need honest support. The rail can wait. Our people cannot. Why are we debating about this? But I know you guys going to pass this stinking bill again. You guys going to play the same show because you need to move the money and we're going to go through this again. But I still oppose this bill and I'm going to oppose the next one because the solution is to redirect the funds to the projects where they need it in each council and district where Northshore needs where Manalo needs where Y9 needs because this has been ongoing problem from Pak Ilia Road for over 20 years before I was born. So, if you're going to spend $725 million and tax us through the general funds and the debt service and your bonds and obligations you guys just passed, I say no. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. Anyone else who'd like to testify on bill 26? Council member Oh, we do have Lori Kaikina, I believe, here. Um, if any members have any questions saying no further testimony, we're in discussion. Council member Tupola. >> Thank you so much, Chair. Um, I just wanted to uh say in support, thank you to Lori for being here. You know, the past couple years of having her at the helm in leadership at the rail has made all the difference. And I have to be honest about that because when I first got in, there's just so much chaos happening with each station, bid contracts, change orders that really the public was enraged. Whereas now, although things still need a lot of improvement, stations are open, we're getting more clear communication. Lori has cut a handful of contracts that didn't seem to be needed for that particular fiscal year. Bear in mind, our budgets are only a year. So, we can't be putting things in the budget that we don't intend to spend for years to come. So, you know, I thank her. I thank those at heart who are there now that are trying to keep this fiscally con managed because that's really what the public is asking for. And just for clarity on some of the statements made earlier, Bare Road is actually owned by the state DOT. It's not owned by Pineriidge. It's not privately owned. Ed Sniffen is in charge of it and there is infrastructure needed, but that is out of our purview. Secondly, Elille Road is private and I will say that many, many people went out there, not just state agencies, not just city agencies, private people, residents helping to go help what needed to be done there. And many people got help and are still getting help. But I just wanted to make that comment because there are people that want privacy. They don't want their land and their needs and their pain broadcast publicly. And we're giving them that discretion. We're helping them one by one. So again, unrelated to this, but wanted to set the record straight on that and thank you again um to Hart and to Lori. >> Thank you members. Any further discussion? Seeing none, Mr. Yoshida, do we have to do roll call? Okay. Roll call. Mr. Clerk. >> Council member Cordderero. >> I. >> Council member Doss Santos Tam. >> Hi. >> Council member Kia. >> Hi. >> Council member Nishimoto. Council member Okimoto. >> Hi. >> Council member Tolba. >> Council member Tupola. >> Hi. >> Council member Wire. >> Hi. >> Chair Waters. >> I. >> Mr. Chair. There are nine eyes. >> Thank you. CR 80 2026 has been adopted and bill 26 2026 has passed second reading. Moving to the bottom of page 10. Council member Okimoto. >> Chair. I move that committee report 8126 be adopted and bill 27 2026 pass second reading. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Council member Okimoto for the explanation >> relating to the Honolulu Authority for Rapid Transportation capital budget for the fiscal year July 1st, 2026 to June 30, 2027. >> Thank you. I believe we have Shelby Billionaire registered to testify. >> Aloha council members. It's Pikachu Shelby billionaire once again opposing the bill. Even now I'll be the only lonely voice in the Kingdom Hawaiian islands who I represent Kuno Ko Vipina and Ohani party. You guys already have my written toast testimony I sent I don't know maybe a week ago and I oppose this bill cuz what kind of Portuguese makes a rail from Cropo Croc Center that goes to nowhere and if I was in charge I'd be putting it from Wiki Alam Moana Alam Moana to the airports but you're going to destroy everyone's business that's right by the Chinatown and going through there. How do I know? Cuz I catch the bus to come and see you guys. It takes me at least a half an hour or more and even longer to go through all of that stuff. You ruin people's economy, the small business just to put the rail and it's not very convenient. And so I oppose this bill because you can make into a bike lane converted to a skywalk like they do in New York or other things. This is a money pit going into nowhere costing billions of dollars and you're losing on average the cost rider spends $3. It's about $100 you're spending per person. So you guys are losing money every day and I still recommend you catch the bus. You save money because of gas going up and the war going on and the bus is $3. It's cheaper. That's how I get here and that's how I get back. $3 here, $3 back. Thank you very much. It's very cheaper than spending whatever you guys got in black and white. But I know what you're going to do again and pass this bill. Say all yes. I can't stop you. I'm just telling you that I say no and I oppose this. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. Is there anybody else who'd like to testify on Bill 27? Bill 27. Seeing none, members are in discussion. >> Seeing none, roll call. Mr. Clerk. >> Council member Cordderero. >> I. >> Council member Dos Santos Stan. >> Hi. >> Council member Kia. >> Hi. >> Council member Nishimoto. >> Council member Okimoto. >> Hi. >> Council member Tolba. Council member Tupola. >> Hi. >> Council member Wy. >> I. >> Chair Waters. >> Hi. >> Mr. Chair. There are nine eyes. >> Thank you. CR 812026 has been adopted in bill 27206 has passed second reading. Turning to the top of page 8. Council member Okimoto. >> I move that committee report 8226 be adopted and bill 28 2026 CD1 as amended pass second reading. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Council member Okimoto for the explanation >> relating to the legislative budget for the fiscal year July 1st 2026 to June 30, 2027. >> Thank you. I believe we have two registered testifiers starting with Natalie Wasau. >> Thank you, Chair Natalie Wasa. For the records, uh just some record just some comments. Um first of all, as I mentioned, under the um operating budget, I oppose the uh proposed salary increases of 4.7%. And I wanted to bring to your attention that um five testimonies were submitted to the commission for their last meeting which I think was last week Monday. They did not get any of those testimonies in time for the meeting. They were posted online more than a day later. And um you know there's already a lack of trust in the public with respect to the government and people feel like they don't have a voice or there nobody pays attention to them. And here we have a situation where these testimonies were not even provided to the commissioners prior to the meeting. So I asked you to take a look at that because um to me this is not acceptable. And I I finally heard from the chair of the commission yesterday and she said, "Oh, this was just a one-off." Well, I don't know what happened with the other testimonies that were submitted days before their meeting. There's no excuse for that. So I ask you to follow up on that. I also want to note that you um appoint three of the six members to the commission and administrative the commission is administered by the council services to ensure compliance with laws and rules and um you know the the perception I think in the public is that the system is rigged because there's there's not really any kind of um independence with respect to this. So, I'm not quite sure what the answer is to that, but I do ask you to look at why the testimony wasn't uh submitted. With respect to the proviso on page five, proviso E, it allows um transfers between activities and um expenditures between the the um various uh sub budgets with the council chair's approval. And you know, you require the city to come before you every time there's a a a change that is above a certain threshold. I just ask for the same thing for the city council. It um is a sign that there's transparency that there's nothing happening behind the in the background that we don't know about. So I ask you to take a look at that proviso. uh the council aotments of $10,000 per district. That's an addition of $90,000 to the to the legislative budget. I oppose that. And I also ask once again that you provide information on your vacant positions again for transparency and because you request a lot of detail from the administration yet you're not providing it for yourselves. It just looks bad. So um those are my comments on this particular bill. Thank or yeah bill. Thank you. >> I appreciate that. Um, in anticipation of your testimony, I did look at the vacancies. The council has five vacancies, two of which are with council administrative services. We keep those vacant in order to hire paid interns during the summer. And then three vacancies are amongst the members. Each member controls their own uh I guess staff. So there's three vacancies amongst the council members, two vacancies amongst council administrative services. >> So are you saying then that for example there are no vacancies at the city auditor's uh office or some of these other um sub budgets that are included in legislative budget? >> No, no, I'm not I'm not >> just So it's just the council. >> Okay. So if you could then take a look at that and provide that at the budget committee. Thank you. >> Yes. Is there anybody else who'd like to testify on bill 21? >> Excuse me. Pikachu shel billionaire. So, regarding this legislative bill, >> right? I oppose this because you guys, it's really weird. You have 33,457,332. I don't have a problem with the money you guys spend in it. My problem is you're going to put $10,000 in mailers per each council member times the districts. has $90,000 to send me junk mail to Y and I and wherever you guys are and we don't need it. I'd rather have gift cards cuz like you heard yesterday in my previous test, we went to Aloha United Way to get support for 2011 and support and they had real support from business visa, whatever card you get like at the store and that was usable. We need real support. Don't send me and waste $10,000 and Andrea, I love you from another mother and a sister from another mister, but please save the budget. you know, use it for what it's worth. I don't need no mailer and postcards, not for $10,000. That's just ridiculous. And there is a problem, as she said earlier, the previous testifier, about your website. I tried last month, I couldn't get through. I tried this month, I couldn't get through. I I count I contacted Doris, the clerk, you've been a wonderful clerk. How I've been getting through is by emails. So, I've been sending emails every single day when I can, and I sent nine the other day and one because I always test the system. It's not only your system. The police commissioners have not been receiving my testimonies for three to four months. And I've complained to them, too, and they somehow fixed the problem. I'm not sure if it's an email going to spam because it's the same testimony you guys are getting, but your clerk is doing an awesome job. So, I'd have someone check on what's going on because if they're blocking me and some of your number one top testifiers, there's something wrong in the system. Thank you very much. Have a beautiful day. May the force be with you always. I'll be going to the next meeting. Have a beautiful lunch. Aloha. >> Thank you. Is there anybody else who'd like to testify on bill 28? Seeing none discussion, members, council member Tupola, followed by Council Member Cordderero. >> Yeah, thank you so much, Chair. In support, um I just wanted to make a comment that I've only done a mailer once since I've been in office. I've been in for 5 years because it's so expensive. So, we uh I represent from Eva right along Auggie's border all the way to Katna Point. So roughly, you know, around 120,000 people. This is a huge area and the cost to do it, to be honest, is too much. So don't worry, I won't send him any mail. But I also haven't sent any mail because really we have to kind of decide whether or not that's a good a good use of expense because the amount to pay for a mailer to my whole district is much much more than when I was a state house rep where we could kind of frequently send out postcards. I can't even really do that unless we want to spend large chunks of our budget. So, with that being said, you know, I do think that it's a modest amount that we get for the amount of people that we service. And to be very frank, we try to use every method possible that's free to communicate with the community because yes, um mailers and things that go in the mail are very expensive. So, I do know all my colleagues do the same and we're trying to be as fiscally conservative as we can. Thank you, Chair. >> Thank you, Council Member Cordderero. >> Thank you, Chair. I placed that amendment and I understand the concerns uh regarding 10,000 per council district in which equates to $90,000. Um and honestly $10,000 is just the amount for postage uh for our district. And you know, damned if you do, damned if you don't about like informing people about projects in our community. Uh myself, I have a very urban district. Uh and so I want to alert them. Um, I have H1, H201 and Nimmits and so many highways intersecting Nik all converging at near Middle Street. And so, um, all these different things that people need to know in my district doesn't always get to them through my own e- newswsletters, neighborhood board kind stuff. People don't always watch the news too. Some people get it on social media, but getting it directly to them at home is another tool and where we can meet people where they are at. Mahalo. Thank you. Any further discussion, members? Seeing none, roll call. Mr. Clerk. >> Council member Cordderero. >> I. >> Council member Doss Santos Tan. >> Hi. >> Council member Kia. >> Hi. >> Council member Nishimoto. >> Hi. >> Council member Okimoto. >> I. >> Council member Tolba. >> Council member Tupola. >> I. >> Council member Wire. >> Excused. >> Chair Waters. >> I. >> Mr. Chair. There are eight eyes. One member is absent. Thank you. CR 82 2026 has been adopted in bill 28 2026 CD1 has passed second reading from the committee on zoning and planning. Council member Kia Aina. >> I move that committee report 93 2026 be adopted and bill 21206 pass second reading. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Council member Kia for the explanation. >> This bill relates to transit oriented development. >> Thank you Mr. Clerk. I believe we have one registered testifier, Andrew Pereira. >> Mr. Chair, the testifier is not logged on. >> Okay. Is there anybody else who'd like to testify on Bill 21? Bill 21. Seeing none from the audience, is there anybody online who'd like to testify on Bill 21? >> Mr. Chair, we have none. >> Okay. Members, we're in discussion. Council member Doss Santos Town. >> Thank you, Chair. Um, I'll be voting WR in this. I share concerns that um the original intent behind this proposal was to deal with graywater, which I think is fairly uh broadly supported and and fairly innocuous. I have um some concerns about section five which is t uh which is kind of pitched as a housekeeping amendment that is to match the language that applies to the interim plan development transit permits IPDT with the planned development transit permits the PDT. And back when this original process was being set up in 2017 and then again in 2019, it took four years to come up with uh this language. And simply copying and pasting it from the IPDT process to the PDT process as uh is proposed in this bill is not actually a housekeeping amendment. It's a major policy question for us to deal with. Um, and I think that it merits much a much broader discussion about whether we're going to match the PDT exactly with IPDT. And if that's the case, then we should just have one process rather than two if they're going to be exactly the same and exactly mirror each other. And I'll also posit that the IPDT process and PDT process were set up years ago, again going back to 2019 and 2020 at a time when kind of development pressures and the kinds of ways that we wanted to regulate development were a little bit different. Um, now with interest rates being much higher, now with our housing shortage being even worse than it was back then, um, I think we need to have a broader discussion about this section. So, I'll be actually proposing um a version of this bill that takes out section five and just deals with the gray water because I think that that's um fairly innocuous and fairly broadly supported. So, thank you. >> Thank you, Council Member Kia A. >> Uh thank you, Chair. I've uh received uh several um communications regarding concerns that came after the zoning here hearing and so I u intend to address those concerns at the next zoning committee. Thank you. Thank you. Any further discussion? Council member Nishimoto, >> please know my reservations. >> Okay. >> Reservations. >> Council member Wy. >> Um reservations. Thank you. >> Thank you. Um, I do want to note that this it was originally introduced as resolution 25-51. The bill, which is predominantly the same as what we're looking at today, went to the planning commission. Planning commission really didn't do any amendments to it. It came back to us. I also received concerns, so I'll be voting with reservations, but thank you, chair of planning and zoning for um, looking at this and working with the community and their concerns in addressing that. Um, but we need to pass it out today to get it back to committee in order to do that. So, having said that, any further discussion? Council member Okimoto, >> chair, just also please note my reservations. Okay. Thank you. >> Council member Corduro. >> Chair, I just wanted to note that's why I brought up the chair of the planning commission during that measure. uh because when they do and I mentioned they are looking through it with a finer tooth comb but uh these recommendations that come to the council after it goes to them um it should include discussions with uh stakeholders as I mentioned to the planning commission um chair so which includes developers as well. So, um, that is, uh, once again why I brought that up and another example as to why I, um, often bring up concerns with what comes out of the planning commission back to the council. Mahalo. >> Thank you. This does call for a roll call vote. So, unless there's any further discussion, Mr. Clerk, roll call, please. >> Council member Cordderero, >> I. >> Council member Dos Santos Stan. >> Council member Kia. >> Hi. >> Council member Nishimoto. Council member Okimoto, >> reservations. >> Council member Toba, >> excused. >> Council member Tupola, >> reservations. >> Council member Wire, >> reservations. >> Chair Waters >> and reservations. >> Mr. Chair, there are eight eyes, one member is absent. >> Thank you. CR 93206 has been adopted and bill 212026 has passed second reading. Moving to the top of page 12 from the committee on budget, council member Okimoto. >> Chair, I move that committee report 8526 and resolution 26-36 be adopted. >> Has been moved and seconded. Council member Okimoto for the explanation. approving the city and county of Honolulu's 32nd year action plan for the community development block grant, home investment partnerships, emergency solutions grants, and housing trust fund programs and authorizing its submittal to the US Department of Housing and Urban Development. >> Thank you. Is there a second? >> It's been moved and seconded. >> Council member Okimoto, thank you for the explanation. Is there a motion to amend? >> Chair, I move that resolution 26-36 be amended to the handc carried FD1 identified as OCS 2026-214 slash413206 at 3:54 p.m. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Thank you for the What do you Thank you for the explanation, Mr. Clerk. Do we have any testifiers? chair. Actually, I think I will read the explanation at this time. >> Oh, >> if that's okay. Please proceed. >> Okay. >> The proposed FD1 makes the following amendments. A amends the title of the resolution to read. quote, "Approving the city and county of Honolulu's 32nd 32nd year action plan for the community development block grant, home investment partnerships, emergency solutions grants, and housing trust fund programs and authorizing its submittal to the US Department of Housing and urban development. B amends the fourth whereas clause to clarify that the draft 32nd annual action plan dated February 2026 was transmitted by departmental communication 82 2026 C as a new fifth whereas clause to clarify that the updated annual action plan dated April 2026 was transmitted by the way of departmental communication 255206 D-2552026 and is attached to the proposed FD1 as exhibit A and incorporated by reference. The quote updated annual action plan close quote replaces oh D replaces the draft 32nd annual action plan dated February 2026 and attached to the resolution with the updated annual action plan dated April 2026 marked as exhibit A that was transmitted as part of the proposed FD1 submitted by the Department of Budget and Fiscal Services by way of D-255 2026. Six E as a new sixth whereas clause to clarify that the updated annual action plan updates the US Department of Housing and Urban Development HUD funding allocation amounts to reflect the actual HUD funding allocation amounts and makes additional miscellaneous technical and nonsubstantive amendments. F amends the be it resolved clause to clarify that the council approves the city and county of Honolulu's 32nd year action plan for the community development block grant home investment partnerships emergency solutions grants and housing trust fund programs dated April 2026 attached as exhibit A and incorporated by reference herein and authorizes its submitt to HUD G makes miscellaneous technical and non-s substantive amendments. Thank you, chair. >> Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Do we have any testifiers? >> Mr. Chair, we have none. >> Thank you. Members are in discussion. >> Seeing none, any objections or reservations to the motion to amend. Council member Akia. >> Didn't raise my hand fast enough. Um, I just want to thank the uh Department of Community Services and Department of Budget and Fiscal Services. I look forward to next year's um plan and I hope that again we go in the direction of pivoting from uh providing um uh greater percentage to nonprofit organizations including the funding set aside for um public service. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any further discussion? Seeing none, any objections or reservations to the motion to amend? Seeing none, resolution 26-36 has been amended to the handcared FD1. Any objections or reservations to waving council rule 19g, the 48 hour notice? Seeing none, the 48our notice has been waved. Any further discussion, members? Seeing none, any objections or reservations? Noting no objections or reservations. CR85206 and resolution 26-36 FD1 has been adopted. Moving to the bottom of page 12. Council member Okimoto. >> I move that committee report 8626 and resolution 26-55 be adopted. >> It's been moved and seconded. Council member Okimoto for the explanation >> relating to the transfer of funds >> for Honolulu Police Department. Yes. Um Mr. Mr. Clerk, do we have any testifiers? >> Mr. Chair, we have none. >> Thank you. Members, we're in discussion. Council member Tupola. >> Thank you, Chair. Um, in support, I just wanted to make mention that we are getting close to the end of the fiscal year. So, we're going to see a lot of these transfer of funds. And I just want to remind everyone that last year, right before we voted on the the last budget bill, there was a suggestion from HPD to transfer 13 million, which then was corrected to 11 and then we ended up transferring 7 million, which is still a lot. So, this goes to show that we should have provisos on some of these items because if we don't, we will not be able to track things like this. We know that they need money for overtime. We know that sometimes it's hard to gauge how much money needs to go to patrol or whatnot, but I think every year if we're not tracking this carefully or actually being able to show where the transfer was for what reasons, we will continue to do this. So, I just wanted to make mention of that because again, we support HPD, but we're trying to get into a better way that we budget fiscally and this has to be done in a way that we can track it from year to year. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any further discussion, members? Seeing none, any objections or reservations? Noting no objections or reservations. CR 86206 and resolution 26-55 has been adopted. Turning to page 13, Council Member Okimoto. >> Chair, I move that committee report 8726 and resolution 26-74 be adopted. >> Is there a second? >> It's been moved and seconded. Council member Okimoto for the explanation >> relating to a transfer for the payment of hazard pay under the department of budget and fiscal services. >> Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Do we have any testifiers? >> Yes, I believe we have Miss Wasa. >> Okay, chair, please proceed. >> Thank you, Chair Natalie Wasa. For the record, just confirming this is for the bus hazard pay. Correct. >> Correct. >> Okay. Um just some comments and if you would allow me a little bit of latitude. Um it was noted in the paper a couple times that the um the employees with the bus are getting health insurance for not only the employee but for the spouse for their entire lives. And I don't know if this is something that occurs in all of the union agreements but um it's just it's not it's not sustainable. And um I understand that the counties have very little um not as much weight with respect to the union agreements that the state has. The state really controls those negotiations. And so I ask you to follow up on that. Um you know, it's it's not fair that the state really has a a higher um heavier weight in the state and what the city ends up paying for these types of things. So those are my comments. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anybody else like to testify? >> Good. Yeah, please come forward. >> Thank you all for waiting patiently. >> Please proceed. >> Aloh. My name is Joel Hussy. I'm the secretary treasure at Hawaii Teamsters Local 996. I just wanted to bear testimony and we're very grateful that we're here today to give what our employees at Aahu Transit Services deserve. I also want to say that um healthc care is something that we do fight fair. Um our retirees, yes um some of them may have their spouses covered, not many. Um it's been a hard industry and you know supporting our people here so that they can sustain especially after retirement is important. Mahalonui. >> Thank you for your testimony today. >> Members, we're in discussion. Council member Tupola followed by Council Member Wire. >> Thank you so much chair. Um I just wanted to say thank you to the administration. I mean I know we went through a lot of discussion about this. I introduced a resolution in 2023 about this. Here we are in 2026, you know, finally talking about the distribution of the hazard pay. And I thank them for hanging in there cuz co was a while ago. And and I think us going back and forth and really being the last county to kind of wrap up our discussions with each union is unfortunate because so many people have kind of hung on, waiting, hoping and we know that there were so many bus drivers that were in constant contact the whole entire time. So, yes, very grateful that we're finally at this step. And of course, our our apologies, you know, to those workers in the city that had to go through it, wait this long. You know, I think on the council side, we were advocating from the beginning. And so, I'm just glad that this this resolution came forward and we hope the best for them. I I agree that it's tough, you know, it's tough to keep maintain our mechanics there, our services. And actually, you know, just today we had a good a good celebration of our awesome bus drivers. We have to remember that this is a service that our city provides to the public and people are very very grateful for it. So, I'm glad that we can treat our our bus drivers well and that we can be aware of their welfare and their needs in this way. Thank you, Chair. >> Thank you, Council Member Wy. >> Um, thank you, Chair. Yeah, I want to echo that. um just a deep appreciation for all of our bus drivers and and mechanics and all the teams um that are working to serve the community. I mean I think co you folks are at the forefront in the front lines but even just recently right now um in Wua with the the bus driving around with the evacuation route. So, just like when the first responders are down there, you are first responders and grateful for the leadership team that's in chamber today. Um, I'm hopeful for the future and yeah, I mean, I echo that sentiment. Um, u medical issues in the related income loss are the leading cause of bankruptcy. Like, how nuts is that? Like, people go bankrupt because they're sick. Can't go you die without going to the doctor. and we live in a community where we still struggle to to have access for everybody. So mad applause for that as well in increasing the the medical access for for your members. So m chair >> thank you any further discussion members seeing none any objection or reservations? Noting no objections or reservations CR87206 and resolution 26-74 has been adopted. Thank you. Moving to the bottom of page 13 from the committee on housing, homelessness and parks. Council member Tupola. >> I move that committee report 88 2026 resolution 26-52 be adopted. >> Moved and seconded. Council member Tupola for the explanation >> accepting a gift of an interpretive sign honoring the legacy of Mary Foster valued at $2,645 to the city from NTP Holdings to be displayed at Foster Botanical Gardens. >> Thank you, Mr. Clark. Do we have any testifiers? >> Mr. Chair, we have none. >> Thank you. Members, we're in discussion. Seeing none, any objections or reservations? Noting none. CR88 2026 and resolution 26-52 has been adopted. Moving to the top of page 14, Council Member Tupola. >> I move that committee report 89 2026, resolution 26-53 be adopted. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Council member Tupola for the explanation. >> Accepting a gift of two highback traditional benches, preparations of the grounds, and two bronze plaques with an inscription to read donated by the family of Milana valued at $5,380.79 to the city from William Berly to be placed at Kapoli Regional Park and Leah Beach Park. >> Thank you, Mr. Cler. Do we have any testifiers? >> Mr. Chair, we have none. >> Thank you, members. Any discussion? Seeing none, any objections or reservations? Noting no objections or reservations. CR89 2026 and resolution 26-53 has been adopted. Council member Tupola. >> I move that committee report 90 2026 resolution 26-64 be adopted. >> It's been moved and seconded. Council member Tupola for the explanation. >> Mr. Department of Parks and Recreations to review and update as necessary the security and safety requirements and related documentation for events held at the city and county of Honolulu parks facilities. >> Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Do we have any testifiers? >> Mr. Chair, we have none. >> Thank you. Any discussion? Members, council member Tupola Okimoto. >> Yeah, thank you so much uh to the those who supported. You know, I introduced this resolution with the hope that we could encourage even large private events. So, I know that the city does already require like surf festivals and large concerts to kind of hire their special duty. But we do know that there are many people that utilize the parks for graduations, for um weddings. And so again, they have this in their rules, but there have been officers in my district asking that if these events are that large that they always have their own security there because we cannot have our patrol officers go report to a park because there's a private event that gets out of control. So again, we're trying to uh suggest this because we want to continue families to like encourage families to utilize our parks. We want them to gather in these spaces, but at the same time, our parks are valuable. They need to be cared for and our parks staff, they work very, very hard to keep these areas well so people can use them. So thank you again to DPR for their support. >> Thank you, Council Member Kimoro. >> Chair, just please note my reservations. >> Pardon? >> Note my reservations. >> Reservations. Thank you. >> Okay. Any further discussion members? Seeing none, uh, noting the objection of council member or >> reservations >> reservations of council member Okimoto. Any other reservations or objections? Seeing none, CR90 2026 and resolution 26-64 has been adopted. Moving to the bottom of page 15 from the committee on zoning and planning, council member Kia. I move that committee report 942026 and resolution 26-43 CD1 as amended be adopted. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Council member Kina for the explanation. This resolution grants a special management area major permit to allow for the construction of four single unit dwellings, one attached garage, a swimming pool with spa and reflection pool, various pavilions, an automobile and basketball courts and installation of four individual wastewater systems and ancillary improvements in Wua Oahu. >> Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Do we have any testifiers? >> Mr. Chair, we have none. >> Thank you. Any discussion members? Seeing none, roll call, Mr. Clerk. Council member Corddero. >> Hi. >> Council member Doss Santos Stan. >> Hi. >> Council member Kia. >> Hi. >> Council member Nishimoto. >> Hi. >> Council member Okimoto. >> Hi. >> Council member Toba. >> Council member Tupola. >> I. >> Council member Wuire. >> Hi. >> Chair Waters. >> I. >> Mr. Chair. There are nine eyes. >> Thank you. CR94 2026 and resolution 26-43 CD1 has been adopted. Moving to page 16. There are no balance of committee reports, nor there are unfinished business. Members, we have approximately four and a half pages of new business. We could either take a break for lunch and come back or power through and finish. Power through. All right. Thank you, Vice Chair Tupola. >> I move the resolution 26-69 be adopted. >> Second. It's been moved and seconded. by Tupola for the explanation. >> Accepting a gift to the city of lodging, airfare and perdm valued at an estimated $2,66 from the United States election assistance commission USC for the office of city clerk's election administrator to attend the EAC standards board meeting in Chicago, Illinois from April 16th to April 17, 2026. >> Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Do we have any testifiers? >> Mr. Chair, we have none. >> Thank you. Any discussion, members? Seeing none any objections or reservations. Noting no objections or reservations. Resolution 26-69 has been adopted. Moving to the top of page 17. Vice Chair Tupola. >> I move the resolution 26-77 be adopted. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Vice Chair Tupola for the explanation. >> Accepting a gift of travel related expenses valued at $450 to the city from Fujo Municipal People's Government for Mayor Rick Bangiardi's visit to Fujo, China from April 23rd through the 26th, 2026. >> Thank you. Thank you. Is there a motion to amend? Council member Nishimoto. >> Thank you. I move that resolution 26-77 be amended to the hand carried FD1 identified at as OCS 2026-021341326 at 11:15 a.m. >> Second. >> Thank you. It's been moved and seconded. Council member Nishimoto for the explanation of the amendment. >> Yeah, chair. Um, a copy from the clerk has been passed out to the members. Would that be sufficient? >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Do we have any testifiers? >> Mr. Chair, we have none. >> Thank you, members. We're in discussion. Seeing none, any objections to the motion to amend. Seeing none, res seeing no reservations or objections. Resolution 26-77 has been amended to the hand carried FD1. Any objections or reservations to waving council rule 19g, the 48 hour notice? Seeing none, the 48 hour notice has been waved. Members, any discussion on the sub u underlying bill? Seeing none, any objections or reservations? Noting no objections or reservations. Resolution 26-77 FD1 has been adopted. Moving to the bottom of page 17. Vice chair Tupola. I move that resolution 26-78 be adopted. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded adviser to pull for the explanation >> relating to the transfer of funds. >> Thank you. Dealing with the department of medical examiner. Is there a motion to amend? Council member Okimoto. >> Chair. I move I'm sorry that resolution 26-78 be amended to the posted FD1. Second. It's been moved and seconded. Council member Okimoto for the explanation of the amendment. >> The FD1 makes the amendment set forth in forth in the written summary as posted on the agenda. >> Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Do we have any testifiers? >> Mr. Chair, we have none. >> Thank you. Any discussion? Seeing none, any objections to the motion to amend? Noting no objections. Resolution 26-78 has been amended to the posted FD1. Any further discussion members? Seeing none, any objections or reservations? Noting none. Resolution 26-78 FD1 has been adopted. Moving to the top of page 18. Vice Chair Tupola. >> I move that resolution 26-79 be adopted. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. to pull for the explanation. >> Accepting a gift of travel, lodging, meals, and related expenses valued at $2,133.50 to the city from abundance network education for council member Tyler dos Santos TAM to participate in the abundance elected fellowship program inerson training in Denver, Colorado. >> Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Do we have any testifiers? >> Mr. Chair, we have none. >> Thank you. And members, any discussion? Seeing none, any objections or reservations? Noting no objections or reservations. Resolution 26-79 has been adopted. Moving to the bottom of page 18. Vice Chair Tupola. >> I move the resolution 26-81 be adopted. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Vice Chair to Polo for the explanation. accepting a gift of air transportation and lodging valued at $1,850 to the city from Harvard Kennedy School for a member of the Department of Human Resources and the Department of Transportation Services to participate in the Harvard Kennedy's second annual state and local government career expo and forum in Cambridge, Massachusetts from April 16th to the 17th, 2026. >> Thank you. Is there a motion to amend? Council member Nishoto. >> Thank you. I move the that resolution 2681 be amended to the handc carried FD1 identified as OCS 2026-0211413/2026 at 10:15 a.m. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Counciloman Nishimoto for the explanation of the amendment. >> Thank you. The clerk has passed out hard copies to the members for their approval. >> Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Do we have any testifiers? >> Mr. Chair, we have none. Thank you. Any discussion members? Seeing none, any objections or reservations to the motion to amend? Noting no objections or reservations. Resolution 26-81 has been amended to the hand carried FD1. Any objections or reservations to waving council rule 19G, the 48 hour notice? Noting no objections or reservations. The 48our notice has been waved. Members, any further discussion? Seeing none. Any objections or reservations? Noting no objections or reservations. Resolution 28-81 FD1 has been adopted. Moving to page 19, Vice Chair Tupola. >> I move that resolution 26-79 be adopted. >> Second. It's been moved and seconded. Vice Chair Tupola for the explanation. >> I think I said that wrong. I move that resolution 26-82 be adopted. Here's the explanation. accepting a gift of travel, lodging, ground transportation, and related expenses with an estimated value of 2500 from the Trust for Public Land, TPL, for a representative of the Office of the Managing Director to attend TPL's National Day on the Hill from April 13 to the 15, 2026 in Washington DC. >> Okay, just to be clear, a second. >> Second. >> Thank you. It's been moved and seconded as well as explained. Coun uh clerk, any testifiers, >> Mr. Chair, we have none. >> Thank you. Any discussion members? Seeing none, any objections, reservations? Noting no objections or reservations. Resolution 26-82 has been adopted. Moving to page 20, there is no items for the committee on the whole. Any announcements, council member Tupola. >> Thank you. Thank you. I just want to announce again for the public uh April 25th at the Wai Mall 9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. the Division for Elderly Affairs uh DCS in the city will be partnering with El Paio Wai Coast Comprehensive Health Center to do a community resource fair. It's free to the public. There will be state, city, and federal resources there for those in need for from the storm. Thank you, chair. >> Thank you. Pardon? >> Any other announcements? Um, okay. Thank you, Vice Chair Tupo. >> I move that the meeting stand adjourned until Wednesday, May 13, 2026 at 1000 a.m. >> Second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Any objections? No. No objections. The council stand adjourned until Wednesday, May 13, 2026 at 10:00 a.m. Thank you, members. It is now 1:4 12:45. We stand the chair.