City of North Saint Paul City Council - 5-20-25

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just kind of like call the council meeting to order. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible andice for all. Thank you very much. Roll call, please. Council member Nordby is absent. Council member Woods here. Council member McKenzie here. Council member Schwar here. Mayor Mongi here. Thank you very much. A motion to adopt the agenda, please. So moved. We'll move. Council member Schwear. Second. Second. Council member McKenzie. All those in favor say I. I. I. Thank you very much. Presentations. All right. We have two this evening. I want to start off with uh Tom Spence this evening. Tom, if you could come on up, we'd sure appreciate it. Bring your family too. Oh, come on. No. We all know that behind every man's boss. You got that right. Well, Tom, I really appreciate you coming here tonight. Um, this is really just to honor you and recognize you for all the work you've done in the city. Um what it's been 15 years you've been doing. It has been 15 years. Um no 17 17 years because I believe our first house was a 2008 2009 academic school year. Okay. And we've done 15 houses. Wow. Uh would have been a few more but COVID came into play. So one less and then one year thanks to the city we had a household lined up but then well you're aware of what happens when you try to transfer a title of property. doesn't go always as planned. And so was there was a delay and then the city said, "Hey, you want to build some park shelters and do our baseball press box?" And so we we kept going and that was kind of a fun project to do. And so thank you for those opportunities. Even when things were difficult, you guys stepped up and helped us. So that was awesome. You've done just such an amazing amount of work in this city and improved these neighborhoods. um you know getting rid of some of the blight and I mean increasing value of the houses around them and even besides just the houses themselves the your ability to work with those kids um with the city with um you know just the contractors that we have working around here you're just such a well-rounded person I really wanted to see what they were going to come up with to try to replace somebody like you and uh it kind of worked out unfortunately but um you're you're a hard man to replace but uh well you double-edged sword on that one. You know, it's an honor, but and and sometimes uh it's it's it's challenging. Um there's been conversations about St. Paul College taking it over. Uh and you know, to respect St. Paul College, they did not want to step in until they knew for sure the 916 was going to step out. They didn't want to come in and take anything over until it was okay. So, I give uh St. Paul College a lot of credit for that. And St. Paul College has been working with the city for quite a few years. Um they have a wonderful cabinet making program and it's an opportunity for their students to do a capstone project, design the cabinets, build the cabinets, finish the cabinets, come out and install the cabinets. So it's one of their highlight programs as well. So now hopefully with the carpenter program stepping in to take over, uh a very competent instructor at the college level. He is a general contractor himself, so I feel very confident that he can take over for the program. and then they can work together on a collaborative effort with the city of North St. Paul and and keep moving forward. I mean, I give St. Paul a lot of credit, North St. Paul a lot of credit. A lot of cities sitting complain about depleting housing stock and what are we going to do and how do we address these things and you guys gals are very active in saying, "Hey, let's do this. Let's let's look at identify our distressed properties and and let's do something about that and let's obtain those properties that are unfit for habitation. they're not feasible to fix up anymore. It's it's take care of them, remove them, um deal with any asbestous issues the correct and legal way, and then we'll provide a building pad and we'll have somebody come in and build the house. And our goal is not to make money. Our goal is to break even and basically, you know, replenish our depleting housing stock. And so I commend the city for that. That and the education that you give the kids that they bring on into the workforce and make a career out of if they want to. Yes. I was talking uh earlier that Dave and and shared with me your son's story. My son started in 97 with the Connie Bones was one of the first classes where at that time they were going out and home building the my son would get out of school at 10:00 a.m. out of North. He'd get his truck and he'd go to wherever the job site was where they were framing and building homes. He'd go to Plymouth. He'd go to uh Chaza, Chanhassen, Lake Elmo, still wherever they were at, and he that's how we learned to build houses. And right now he's a job superintendent for a major construction company. Yep. Great future. Yeah, we've had a lot. That's nice. We could have it here instead of having him travel all over the place. Being able to do it right here locally was really a blessing. It logistically worked out so well for us to partner with North St. Paul right down. Like also our team back there, why don't you guys swing up too? Come on. Because you know what? You guys work just as hard. Yep. I mean, you guys work great together. I mean, that was something when it came to the foundations and and being able to do the work together. So, I know you had a great team as the city along with it, too. So, question. What was your favorite house you did? Anyone you can think of? Always the first one. Always the first one. Always the first house. How about the worst one that gave you the most headaches? your house, the one Ron helped me on. No just kidding. You know, if there's anything that stood out, every house is unique. Yes. And every house has specific challenges. Uh and and I would say a few years ago, we we were kind of in a tough situation dealing in a community with a lot of needs. And to accomplish that and get the respect of the community, I think was probably the biggest tribute. Yeah. And that's what I've always heard is the houses fit in. They look so good. I just talked to you. We just went to the one you have right across from Webster and it looks like that house has been there forever. The way it fits in that crazy lot. I mean, we looked over that lot. I think there's a few times it was like, "Wow, we really can't do anything on that lot." Well, we're able to, you know, take a piece that we had there and be able The house looked great. Yeah. So, you know, you're and I worked on that one for a few hours and try to come up with an plan and kind of Yeah. broke apart a little bit just because we needed to go our separate ways as far as planning stuff. and then we come together back together at some other plans and um you know it's it's so easy to be um cynical. Uh but working with the city which is so supportive and then that again is probably something I'm trying to stress more than anything is working with Ron and Randy and the city and the mayor and the council and HR. It's It's been uh really good and I've been out and talked with other schools about this partnership and um other schools are trying to mimic this which is great. I'm helping like Stillwater wanted to mimic this as well but they can't do it with their setup on their periods of high school classes so it can't be done but we're going to keep spoing other you know schools that want to partner with us other cities too and mayor the maple of the mayor of Maplewood she's always threatened to try to steal you. She always told me we need that program for I said oh that's ours. You will be a traitor retiring like going to Hill Murray. So that's right. You're definitely uh definitely noticed and you've left your mark in in North St. Paul for all these houses and all the you know the what you did for the city. So and also Connie Bones who started the program back in 97. Yes. And you were part of that with Brad Holmes. That's how I got started as I was the first mentor in the youth apprenticeship program and uh after two years of that the builders uh said you know it's a great program but we probably need to get some kind of a class up fronts so they can learn some of the basic how to tape measure technology. So they thought they should probably start a construction occupations program. That's what they did at Sentry and that's what they hired me to and so I came from the industry. So I have 17 years in the trades before I started teaching. And I always look back at my daughter who was 6 months old when I started teaching. She was 26. Yeah. I was going to weekend college. My wife was going to weekend college. It was like three years of a blur. We're both going to So when our kids said, "I can't get the assignment done." It's like, "Oh, we ain't buying that one. Not happening." Because we were both full-time employed. Sure. And both going to weekend colleges to pursue degrees to enhance our career. Yeah. And I love going to the open houses. The kids are so excited. They're running around. Look what I did over here, mom and dad. They're showing everybody, you know, the work they did. It's just the the pride. I mean, it was it's very, you know, you sit back like a fly on the wall and you look at these running around and showing all the work they did. So, it's it's definitely a blessing to our neighborhood. Um, this year's house is going well. Um, so we're pretty much done trimming on the inside. um flooring. Trying to get that scheduled to go in next week and keep moving on that schedule. Uh on the exterior, we've got a little siding to wrap up in the front deck. I'm I still plan on having that mostly done by our last day of school, which is June six. Okay, nice. Awesome. And then landscaping. Typically Randy deals with that a lot and schedules that in. Um and then there's some scheduling issues to do. So, end of June, we want to put that on the market and have the open house again. Well, the student build are hot commodities. They sell quickly around here. There's a reputation, the quality. So, that's definitely great. Well, we want to grab some Tom. You mentioned you use the word mentor and I think that's important that you recognize that you've been a huge mentor to all these students and you have instilled your work ethic into themselves. And something that a takeaway for you is that you have hundreds of students that you have mentored and you have put them in a better place and they will forever remember your name. Thank you. Definitely. I still run into some of these like I I'll always call them kids, but they're like 40ome years old now and and they will remind me of that one house we built, you know, that's on Highway or excuse me, off of 694 in Mcnite and kid I drive by that every day and I tell my wife I built that house when I was in high school. His wife's like, yeah, I've been hearing this story. So it is an impact that we all have as a community on all the children that we raise in our village if you want to say that. Yeah. The opportunity was there and and I was just blessed to be able to help these kids out. Um just kind of find their passion and and like with your son, he found his niche in high school and that's awesome. He didn't wander through college trying to find himself. He knew exactly what he wanted to do. So I'm glad we were able to be part of that. Yeah. It is a blessing. Well, thank you so much. Our residents are going to miss it as well. I will say those open houses they look forward to every year. Now that I'm retired, I plan on using your bike trail here. Hey, it's a good one. I'll still be there. I know we have a presentation and we like to get a couple pictures. I know your wife's going to be taking pictures and can you do it too, please? Why don't the whole council let's go down together? Crystal snowman. Oh, wow. Thank you. That is heavy. Yeah. So, I don't know if I take it out the bottom. It's in there tight. I'll hold on to the top if you want to pull out the bottom. Yeah, you got to fight for it. It's the greatest snowman I've ever seen. Yeah. Everybody, let's get around. You too. Come on, everybody. I give Yeah, you go behind. Yeah. Can you see us all? Start with Jenny first. There we go. And then we'll do Congratulations. Thank you again. Appreciate everything. Let's do a few more with Tom. Okay. Oh, you Tom, did you want what? You should come up here. Yeah. No. Get up here. Come on. You supported it. Come on, daughter. Okay. We're scooting over. All right. I usually put my arm around. All right. Thank you. All right. Thanks again. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Thomas. Thank you, Brian. Yes. Thank you very much for the support. Always fun working with you, Randy. Ron, it's fun to work with you, too. Ryan, it's all right. I see a preference there. All right. All right. Next, uh, we have the proclamation for Memorial Day. So whereas Memorial Day is a solemn occasion dedicated to honoring and remembering the brave men and women of the United States Armed Forces who have made the ultimate sacrifice in service to our country. And whereas this day of remembrance originated after the Civil War and has grown to include all American military personnel who have died in all wars and conflicts. And whereas the people of the state of Minnesota and the city of North St. Paul hold deep gratitude to the valor, courage, and sacrifice of these heroes and are committed to preserving their memory. And whereas Memorial Day also serves as an opportunity for our community to come together in reflection, unity, and support for the families of the fallen and all those who have served or continue to serve in the armed forces. And whereas we encourage residents of North St. Paul to observe this day with reverence, to attend commemorative events, and to honor our fallen heroes by displaying the American flag at half staff until noon as is customary. Now, therefore, uh John Mangi, mayor for the city of North St. Paul, Minnesota, does hereby proclaim Monday, May 26, 2025 as Memorial Day in North St. Paul and urge all residents to join in honoring the memory of our nation's fallen service members. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Absolutely. I appreciate you reading that, sir. Next time they vote, they vote for one doesn't have dyslexia, maybe. All right. Next up is our consent agenda. Right. So, uh, item A, May 6, 2025, workshop and regular meeting minutes. Item B, general claims of 1,850 345.90. Item C, HR claims of $40,62028. Item D, acceptance of the 2024 financial reports that were audited by the city's audit firm of LB Carlson LLP. Item E, resolution accepting donations for April of 2025. Item F, building permit reports for April of 2025. Item G, approve consumption and display permit for the garter toss. Uh, item H, gambling premises permit, White Avenue Business Association. Item I, tree brush grinding and removal services. Item J, Ramsey County Sheriff Emergency Response Teams joint powers agreement. Item K, Metro Inet, uh, memorandum of understanding regarding the data center and agreement and item L, management services agreement between the city of North St. Paul and Triple Crown batting cages. Thank you, Brian. Would anybody like to pull any at this time? I'd like to pull item J, the Ramsey County Sheriff Emergency Response Teams. Okay. If nothing else, can I get a motion to adopt the agenda, please? So moved. So moved. Council member Schwar. Second. Second. Council member I was going to say Norby. I thought you were going to say Wong at first. Exactly. Yeah. We're going back in old Mackenzie. All those in favor say I. I. Thank you. [Music] All right. Going to move that one up then. All right. Move that to uh business. So we'll go to open to the public. Open to the public at uh 6:47. Dennis Bartharm. Okay. Three minutes. Name and address, please. Dennis Bartholomew. Which one do you want? 2308 East 10th Avenue? Sure. Triple Crown. Okay. Or 2050 North Margaret. So, um, you know, I came up because I hear the agenda where we had Triple Crown with that management agreement and I think that's passed, right? Okay. There there was one issue that I didn't hear come up and that has to do with the fact that when we went through this um I had to fill out a tax exemption because the Ramsey County came in and assessed me property taxes and the reason was because the management agreement that was drawn up by the city was done wrong. It told Ramsey County this was now a commercial building and it's a public use facility which it had been since all this time and reaffirmed back in 2010 with Victoria Reinard in the city of North St. Paul due to the fact that there were things missing in that contract that we did in 2023. Part of it saying that I'm the leasey. I'm not a leasey. I'm the contractor. So, I got hit with first half taxes. Now, I went to them and the county commissioner, Kelly Miller, and her staff agreed 100%. They said, "Here's what has to be done." And we had we had a nice conference call between Dave and Brian and and them, and they explained the procedure, what we have to do. I had to file with the tax court. That's the only way you can stop those proceedings from going through. Basically, I had to pay the first half taxes to Ramsey County. The tax court filing, which I did, stops that after they have it and then they will give you a date down the road. They have have basically intercepted that and said, "You're not going to have to do that. Get this thing done and we will reimburse you for that money. The issue I had was that I had to pay $170 for the tax court. I had no choice. If I didn't file with the tax court, I would then have to pay taxes for the full year. They said there's nothing we can do that's in the law. But since I paid it, we held it up. Now, I went down there and we spent over two hours filing this, basically doing the application with the people who do it took over two hours. And they had to make calls to the courthouse and that to make sure they had things right. I asked them, I said, "How does a normal person do this if they had to?" And they said, "You got to get a tax lawyer." And I said, "Well, that's got to be expensive. $1,000 or more." They said, "Try two or three." I said, "No kidding." But they, give him credit, walked me through it and basically did the whole thing for me cuz I there nobody nobody would understand that. So, we saved that kind of money. All I'm asking is that $170 had nothing to do with me and any mistake I made that I be reimbured for that by the city. So, anybody got questions regarding that? No, but thank you for speaking. It's something that Ryan and the council can talk about. Okay. I thought it might have been talked about, but I want that's why it came up tonight. I wanted to make sure that we discuss that. So, um, thank you. And I've got and I've got from the uh Ramsey County, it shows that they have already changed this from a commercial building to a public use building. So that's already filed and everything. Okay. So they're just waiting for that. So I appreciate that. Thank you. Now I think you got to get done so we can watch the Timberwolves. There you go. No. Thank you. Thank you, guys. All right, that that's it. 652 close to public. All right. So, city business action items. Um, item A will be what was pulled down for the SWAT arrangement agreement. I just wanted I I just would like a little more clarification about this because it seems like this is going up from 5,000 to $12,000 a year. Um, and you know, I guess my take on it is, um, how many times have we needed the service? It seems like it's a me like we're buying into a membership for something on the off chance that it's something that we might need in the long term. So my concern is is this money that we need to be spending for this in you know on the off chance that we need this service. It's you know it seems like a lot of you know $5,000 is one thing when it's more than doubling becomes kind of questionable I guess in my mind. So, I guess I'd like to I don't know how this works if it goes up for I don't know what the explanation thought is. Yeah. Start with Yeah. Their claim was that Ramsey County had held the $5,000 fee there probably longer than they should have. That their their costs were going up higher um than what they were asking the participants to um that are in it to pay. Yes, it is uh random. I mean, hopefully you don't ever have to have them called out. Um, we've had it called out a couple of times. Uh, when Phil was here, um, we had those kids that stole that vehicle and drove through our city at high speed, ended up crashing in another city. But, um, then after that, they were having gatherings of the public that were So, it's almost like a retainer. Well, yeah. I mean, so we'll we'll pay this, but you know, we you help us out if we if we need it type of thing is kind of what it looks like, huh? Yeah. Um, and semi similar, you know, we have the the BCA that that can come in and help out during certain situations. Um, but that's a state deal. We don't pay pay for that, but you know, we have participation in it. Um, yeah, you hope you don't get it. Um, but you know, besides serving as the ability of having those services come in and them having to send you an invoice even if they if they do or not, but a small uh city like us that don't have a lot of room of growth, I mean, the these little opportunities kind of help out with the officers being able to kind of expand their wings a little bit and be involved in other um, I don't know, aspects of their job, you know, and and we do things like the the pilots for the um drone program and you know small cities like us don't have a lot of stepping stones. Um you can go to sergeant um but then there's chief um not that that is why we do this but it it is certainly something that helps out the staff as well training learning opportunities for indeed force. Okay fair enough. So that's just bringing more resource training resources. It does. And we I believe we have four people in there um that participate in that. So, it's not them helping us like I thought that I was mistaken. It's the training part of it. No, no. I mean, it is certainly uh them helping us out when needed. I mean, they're an automatic call when we're in crisis situations. Then I you were talking about training, so I thought maybe I was misunderstanding. That was kind of a side note. I Okay. All right. So, that's pretty much to help them. Okay. Yep. And we have had them. Um, is it a straight for everybody or is it go by population or the fee? Straight everybody does the same. I asked Ray that today and he told me that that is a straight fee for the cities. Yes. Okay. Did we use them for last May? Mhm. Last May. No, B that was BCA that came in. Okay. Um, but we have had people um secure themselves in them their houses to where we've had to bring them out and um actually the house right next to the current student built um had issue there that that SWAT came out on. So we've had them intermittently here and there went down there on south. Yeah, but that's a valid question and reason why you pulled it. I think Yeah. Are you good with Yeah. Okay. If you're good with then we'll have to just vote on it. So, and they did bring up to the the timing wasn't great. Uh that we need more notice than what was given here because I mean we follow our budgeting and try to plan ahead with this stuff. So, um there was feedback to the sheriff as well. So, so they wouldn't budge for the remainder of the year. They Yeah, it was kind of a last minute deal that they they and going forward they won't be doing that. They'll give us that consideration which will be nice. Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. If no other questions, can I get a motion for So moved. So move. Council member Woods. Second. Second. Council member Norby. Norby. Council McKenzie. Oh boy. You did pretty good. All those in favor say I. I. I. Thank you very much. Poor Norby. He's He's going to think I didn't even take the day off. Probably mention my name more than everybody else. All right. All right. So, reports from city manager and departments. Uh, we had a staff meeting today. Um, PD has been um they're doing interviews. They believe that four today um which will hopefully get us to full staff, full complement of staff. Um once we get all these on, we still have uh one person that's about halfway through their field training. Um and bringing on this one more will get us up to full staff once they get through all their training. We have our new um detective that is on. Been on for a couple weeks now. He's doing well according to Ray and uh picking up the where others left off. Um we have the new uh cso that started uh what last week and uh so Brandon's been training her. Brandon will be up for taking his post here uh within a a week or so and then uh hopefully pull him on by the early June to be an officer. So looking forward to that. He's he's really good compliment for the department. Um, electric's been busy with their getting um the conduit in for up there at the road reconstruction project. Um, they got most all of that in now except for road crossings and they'll get them in when the road is dug up. Um, we did get our wire in finally for 17th in Delaware. So, they'll be resuming that work that they've started up there um more than a year ago. Um, they're also putting in uh some doing some work at Target. So we can do a loop feed to the target building. Right now it's a radio feed. So that will be a nice addition for such a big load. Um feed radio feed. You got to say it now. I got to know what's Oh, I'm sorry. So if you have just a transformer that goes straight out and and feeds um a business or a resident. Well, if that gets uh broken somehow or um interrupted, that is the only feed for it. So now you have to fix that to get them back on. While loop feed, they're fed from two different directions. So if this goes down, you can just feed from the other direction and it causes much shorter power outages to help them out. So all right. We had any power outages during this high wind session at all, you know? Uh yes, and that was mixed up here. So we got um we've been doing pretty good with these storms. We've had a couple of uh big uh limbs or trees come down on services. Uh we've had just a couple of small outages. Um our biggest outage was somebody trying to tree trim and tree went the wrong way. So Oh, that was a week and a half ago. Um not us. Not not them. Thank he talks back. Look at him. Uh we I have electric working with uh Zo um trying to get some fiber to the housy there. So, that'll be part of um the new lock system that we're going to be looking at to help with that and also for get some security cameras out there. We don't have them now. Um and then talked about the storms. And of course, finance has been busy with this audit and now we're kicking off the budgets and getting moving on that. Uh community development, we have Sarah's been out for the last week and a half. She got married, so they're picking up the Yeah. slack on that. And then um working on new uh policy updates um with Ken and having him update some of the ordinances that we had issues with and been working with Jack on. Um fire department's been busy with they have some training and then they've had uh their new engine. It looks like they got about eight week delivery times. They're hoping for mid July to have that new firet truck. Um working on code enforcement issues right now. seems to be the tall grass for no more. Yeah. So, yeah, especially with the all the rain. Um, and they're actually at a very high roster point. They're about 39. They haven't been that high in many years. So, they've been having more people start on um the department. So, that's good for them. [Music] um public works. They've been of course busy helping 916 with the uh student bill program. Um he already went over where the house is at. Cleanup day went pretty well. Uh we're going to look at ways to streamline that. We're going to actually bring that back to you guys and have a discussion on ways we can improve on that and get your guys' input on that as well. um probably at the next uh workshop. Um did the concrete work down there in front of article 7 um that's blocked off now, but they'll have that open up what come Thursday. So be ready. It was just damaged from some of the heavy equipment that they had working around there. So they had to replace it. They just didn't want to do it last fall, so it was there for the snow plow season. But um then couple what else is left? We have a a little bit of patching on some of the asphalt on the backside on sephila. Um, what else we got? There's also some warranty stuff. Um, our seasonal staffing. They got three more workers started this week. So, won't be long they'll be able to get out and do some patching on the road, get some potholes taken care of. Um, and we're looking at street restru uh reconstructions starting uh around June 1st. So, contractors will be in town. We'll start digging the place up. So, progress progress. That's all I got for you. All right. Thank you very much commissions committees. Parks and Recreation had their cleanup days. Uh, I unfortunately was unable to attend, but I um understand that Troy was able to attend, so maybe he can speak to it. Um, but it I believe it was a very good success. Um, a couple community members that I know had said that they seen people out in the parks and thought it was neat that we were doing that. Uh, next meeting is next Wednesday at 6:30 here in council chambers. Awesome. Thank you. Uh the EDA meets in June 10th coming up and we're going to further up the ED city uh fascia program. Thank you very much. Um the arts and culture commission met uh just after our last meeting on the 7th and just talked through everything. Um just continuing to make progress on all the projects going on, the classes going on at uh for the art projects as well as the um they're going to do our call for artists actually yesterday um for the historical society mural on the west side of the building there. So hopefully that will get done. Uh the plan is to review the artist and decide by the end of this month and then mid next month notify everybody that who's doing it, what it's going to be and everything. So um and then as far as the park cleanup, it it did go well. Um I went to Northwood Park and um sounds like the public works had already been out mo at most of the parks mowing, so a lot of the trash had already been picked up. Nothing major. Um, so the parks commission uh member and I that were there um went and did Mcnite between 36 and uh the daycare, whatever that is. Is that 17th? 11th 11th 11th 11th. Um so we did that section there. Um wound up getting two huge bags of trash out of there. So awesome. Awesome. Did a little bit of extra work. So good. Went good. Thanks for volunteering. Appreciate that. And then I guess one other thing I will say is um I attended the 62 state of the union uh for the school district last week and um sounds like they've got big plans for the school district and everything and it was well represented. So thank you general business. Um I helped out at cleanup days. It was lovely. It was busy. I went into the yard and um put some work gloves on and hauled some tires and hauled some trash. It was I enjoy it's one of my favorite events. These guys may think otherwise, but I enjoy doing it. That's what this meeting's about. Yeah, exactly. You like it too much. Um a lot of people I believe there was was it 318 cars that we had come through. So, and yeah, uh, tennis team was on top of it. They rocked it. Trucks in and out. Um, welloiled machines. I think once they get in there, they know what's going on. So, when you said tennis team, I was thinking North Heights tennis. I'm like, they volunteer for this. And I also did the uh city cleanup and uh the city public works was allowed me to get on a gator and and I uh worked the corner of uh first and seventh and there was such a tie up down there we had to think quick and I got it all lined up where it worked out really well and the uh no complaints, no yelling and no screaming. That was the biggest thing. Awesome. And I told them, "People, it's just going to be a long wait, but just be patient." They said, 'What do we do if we have to go to the bathroom? I said, 'Well, you're going to have to get out of line. Great. Any general? Um, no, just same thing. Uh, participated in the city cleanup, uh, the spring cleanup day. Uh, talked to Ava quite a bit about some, you know, change or not changes, but some things we can do to improve it. Talked to Ron, you know, about some changes. So, um, yeah, I think it'll be it's a good program. I think it's great thing to do. Just got to figure out the, you know, what can we do to make it better, um, for everybody. Um, the park cleanup went well, like I talked about that and then the, uh, 62 State of the Union thing. So, yeah. What was that? What was it? Did they? Yeah. Can you explain? So, the uh district superintendent uh talked about the it was at North. Um district superintendent talked about the schools, the improvements they're making to the schools, what they're doing with the schools. Um all the schools, including elementary schools and everything finally have air conditioning. I know when my kids went to Coworn, they did not have air conditioning, so it was hot in there. Um but all the schools have air conditioning. all the improvements that they're making to the schools, to the programs. Um just talking about what the future looks like for the school district and um you know what we can do as cities. Um there were representatives from you know obviously me from North St. Paul, representatives from Oakdale and Maplewood there as well. Um just talking about what we can do um to help. So yeah. Awesome. I thought it was really good. Thanks for representing. Yeah. Mayor, I'd like to add one thing um that's worth bringing up here is we have a couple of areas around town that uh we're finding commercial vehicles parking and uh even private vehicles parking. So, which is one is like on north of 7th Avenue on Henry along the Burwald property. We've got uh some semis that are parking there overnight, even dropping um just their trailers at times. Uh we also have issues down there at Mcnite Field to where uh I see that in a lot. There's quite a few big panel trucks in there. So we brought that to the attention of the police department and they're going to follow up on that and uh start getting people to move along being that uh when it comes to commercial vehicles there's a 2-hour parking limit and then there's 12 hours for overnight parking. Um so there's things that we can do to get that moving. Just want to So what is it? 12 hours for residential or is it 24 is or it's 12 hours residential? Every 12 hours that vehicle has to be moved residential and then two hours for commercial. That's our lots. Y lots. So it's on third street. Henry Henry Henry Mayfields. Yeah, I know down where the community center where the apartment is. They there seems to be a lot out there all the time from the apartment. So where the where the um Franklin Apartments? Yeah, you got the the community center there. That that's the public lot, too. Every once in a while we're we're hitting them as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Great. So Yep. myself, I had a meeting with uh the local bars in town. So, we got together and u they were just getting ready for for summer and talking about the car show and how things went last year and this year. So, they're it went very well. They got a good group. They want to make sure, you know, they're good to the North St. Paul and uh we wanted the same way make sure that there was nothing that was major that we needed to address and uh it went really well. So, we're good there. So yeah, if anything else, if nothing else, I should say, can I get a call for adjournment please? So moved. So moved. Council member Woods. Second. Second. Council member McKenzie. All those in favor say I. I. Thank you very much. Next meeting is June 3. Have a great night.