>>COUN. BORREGO: GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE PUBLIC, AND TO OUR CITY COUNCILLORS. ALL WILL BE PRESENT THIS EVENING. COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR HARRIS WILL BE JOINING US SHORTLY. TONIGHT IS THE 38th MEETING OF THE 24th COUNCIL. I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO TO ORDER. WITH THAT, WE'LL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO BRING ATTENTION TO OUR FORMER CITY COUNCILLOR HERB HUGHES. HE WAS A GREAT GUY AND GREAT COUNCILOR. I KNOW MOST PEOPLE KNOW, BUT IN CASE YOU DON'T, HE PASSED RECENTLY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BRING ATTENTION TO MY UNCLE WHO JUST PASSED, 100 YEARS OLD, AND WAS ONE OF THE CARETAKERS OF HIS FAMILY. ONE OF THE CARETAKERS OF THE SANTUARIO DE -- THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD AN IMPACT. AND ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS PASSED IN OUR FAMILY AND THOSE WHO HAVE PASSED FROM COVID. JUST TAKE A MOMENT, COUNCILORS. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I'LL DO THAT IN ENGLISH. IF YOU'LL JOIN ME, PLEASE. THAT SHOULD BE ON YOUR SCREEN. >>ALL: I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR DAVIS, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DO THIS IN SPANISH? >>COUN. DAVIS: ON THE FLY, I WILL TRY, MA'AM. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: PLEASE JOIN US FOR THE PLEDGE IN SPANISH. [ RECITING THE PLEDGE IN SPANISH ]. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. THAT WAS WONDERFUL. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. I JUST NEED TO READ SOME INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC. AS THE PUBLIC NOTED IN OUR PRESS RELEASE, WE'RE JOINING YOU ON OUR ZOOM LINK. THOSE ARE FOR SOME SAFETY REASONS. AS NOTED IN THE PRESS RELEASE FROM OUR OFFICE ON FRIDAY, POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE, AND NOTED ON OUR PUBLISHED COUNCIL AGENDA, THIS MEETING HAS SPECIAL PROCEDURES AND IS BEING HELD VIA ZOOM. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CITY STAFF AND MEDIA HAVE THE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS MEETING LIVE THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. GOVTV ON COMCAST CHANNEL 16, THE GOVTV WEBSITE, YOUTUBE AND ZOOM. THESE CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST SMART PHONES, TABLETS OR COMPUTERS. ALSO THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTION AND YOU MAY ENABLE THE CLOSED CAPTIONING SERVICE ON OUR TELEVISION OR DEVICE AT THIS TIME. FOR THOSE WATCHING ON LIVE STREAM, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. THE RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETING WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE AT ANY TIME ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. COUNCIL STAFF IS AVAILABLE VIA TELEPHONE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED ASSISTANCE FINDING VIDEOS ONLINE. PLEASE CALL 768-3100 FOR ASSISTANCE DURING BUSINESS HOURS, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 8 A.M. THROUGH 5 P.M. WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED BY 3 P.M. WERE DISTRIBUTED TO ALL COUNCILORS IN ADVANCE OF TODAY'S MEETING. I MENTION THAT WE HAD A NUMBER OF WRITTEN COMMENTS, COUNCILORS, I HOPE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE WRITTEN COMMENTS BEFORE TONIGHT. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. AND TONIGHT THERE ARE NONE. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION. AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY THIS EVENING. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. I ALSO NOTE THAT COUNCILOR BENTON HAS JOINED US. AND IT LOOKS LIKE COUNCILOR HARRIS IS ALSO JOINING US. LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT. BEFORE WE START WITH OUR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, AND I SAW THAT WE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE JOINING US THIS EVENING FOR LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO READ SOME COMMENTS TO YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU AND WE ARE ALSO RECEIVED WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED TO ALL COUNCILORS IN ADVANCE OF TODAY'S MEETING. FOR OUR PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IF YOU HAVE SIGNED UP FOR LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA AND ON THE WEBSITE ON FRIDAY. SPEAKERS WILL BE MOVED INTO THE MEETING ROOM TWO AT A TIME. THEY WILL REMAIN MUTED WITH THEIR CAMERA OFF UNTIL THEY'RE CALLED TO SPEAK. AT WHICH POINT THEY CAN TURN ON THEIR CAMERA, UNMUTE THEMSELVES, AND WILL HAVE ONE AND A HALF MINUTES TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. AFTER THAT, THEY WILL BE MUTED AND RETURN TO BE AN ATTENDEE OF THE ZOOM WEBINAR. THESE ARE THE GROUND RULES. EACH PARTICIPANT HAS ONE AND A HALF MINUTES TO PRESENT. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCILORS ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE ZOOM WEBINAR. MR. MOYA WILL BE ASSISTING ME TONIGHT WITH THE LIVE COMMENTS. I WILL TURN NOW TO MR. MOYA TO CALL THE FIRST SPEAKERS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS CATHY, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME. I EXPECT TO BE RATHER BRIEF WITH MY COMMENT. I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT ABOUT MY CONCERNS AND THE CONCERNS OF MY NEIGHBORS WITH REVISION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION RECOGNITION ORDINANCE. I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT HAS GONE INTO THE PRODUCT AND I UNDERSTAND AND BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE DESIRE TO REWORK WAS DONE IN ORDER TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. I AM CERTAIN YOUR INTENTIONS WERE WELL-MEANING. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THIS CURRENT DRAFT FAILS TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE SOLVED SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS. I DO BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE CREATED SOME CONFUSION AND SOME PROBLEMS THAT WERE UNANTICIPATED DURING THE PROCESS. CONCERNED CITIZENS REALLY, REALLY EXPECTED A DIFFERENT PROCESS. WE WANT TO CONTRIBUTE AND COMMUNICATE. WE EXPECT TO COLLABORATE WITH YOU. WE BELIEVE THAT IF WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT WE WOULD HAVE A PRODUCT THAT IS MORE COMPREHENSIVE AND COHERENT. IT WOULD HAVE MORE CLARITY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IT WOULD HAVE CONSENSUS. I BELIEVE THAT YOU NEED TO START ANOTHER PROCESS. I BELIEVE THAT YOU NEED TO INITIATE A SERIES OF MEETINGS AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL. I THINK THIS CAN BE DONE EASILY >> HOW CAN WE NOT CHARGE DUES TO HAVE A VIABLE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT HAVE CERTAIN COSTS. >> THANK YOU, DOCTOR. >> THE QUESTION IS, WHAT'S THE THINKING? THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CARLOS. FEEL FREE TO TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF. >> FIRST CRIDE LIKE TO EXPRESS MY CONDOLENCES TO YOU WITH INLOSS OF YOUR UNCLE. I LOST MANY FAMILY MEMBERS DURING COVID, I UNDERSTAND YOUR LOSS. GOOD EVENING, DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL, I'M KNOWN AS SOMBRERO MAN. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE STADIUM MATTER. THE STADIUM MATTER IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. THE STADIUM IS NOT JUST FOR THE HERE AND NOW OF ALBUQUERQUE BUT FOR THE FUTURE OF MY KID AND GRANDKIDS AND 17 GENERATIONS DOWN THE LINE THAT WILL BE HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. A CITY NEEDS THIS BELOVED STADIUM FOR OUR BELOVED SOCCER TEAM TO HELP THE DOWNTOWN AREA AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY. WE ALSO NEED TO WORK WITH THE BARELAS NEIGHBORHOODS AND A TRUST THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR AND NEW MEXICO UNITED WILL DO THAT AND FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. SOMOS UNIDOS. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SALLY. TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF, AND YOUR ONE AND HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> GOOD EVENING, THAT'S A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW. MY NAME IS SMELLY, I'M AN ENROLLED AGENT. I'M AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE NEW MEXICO SOCIETY. I WOULD LIKE TO VISIT ABOUT THE TAX PREPARE ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE PASSED AND SOME AMENDMENTS ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO YOU LATER. THE GOAL OF THIS ORDINANCE IS WONDERFUL. THE GOAL IS THE INTENT IS TO PROTECT THE TAXPAYER FROM PAYING TO HAVE THE TAX RETURN DONE BY SOMEONE WHO ISN'T EDUCATED OR COMPLAINT OR MAY NOT KNOW THE RULES OR MAY NOT SIGN THE TAX RETURN. THE TAX PREPARE ORDINANCE IS WONDERFUL. IT'S A GOOD THING IN THAT IT'S ASKING THE PREPARERS TO BE COMPETENT ETHICAL KNOWLEDGEABLE. IT'S ASKING THEM TO PRESENT A BILL OF RIGHTS TO THE TAXPAYER. IT'S ASKING THE PREPARERS TO PROVE THEIR NAME, QUALIFICATIONS, AND THEY HAVE A PTIN NUMBER AND A CRS NUMBER. HOWEVER, THE ONLY PROBLEM WE HAVE IS THAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS OF THE TAX PREPARER ARE NOT BEING CPAs AND ATTORNEYS ARE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW THEM. ENROLLED AGENTS ARE. WE'RE NOT EXCLUDED. I WANT TO REMIND ALL OF YOU THAT ON THE FEDERAL PLAYING FIELD, CPAs AND LAWYERS AND ENROLLED AGENTS ARE BOUND WITH WHAT IS CALLED CIRCULAR -- >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. . >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR DAVIS? COUNCILOR DAVIS? >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I APOLOGIZE MY INTERNET CONNECTION IS NOT SO GREAT. I TURNED MY VIDEO OFF. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YOU MENTIONED -- HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THE AMENDMENTS OR DISCUSS THEM WITH THE ADMINISTRATION? >> YES, AND NO. WE MET WITH THE POLICY DIVISION AND PRESENTED OUR CONCERNS AND AMENDMENTS TO HIM. HE NOTIFIED US THAT THERE WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT PRESENTED TO YOU THIS EVENING, BUT THAT ENROLLED AGENTS ARE STILL NOT EXCLUDED FROM THE ORDINANCE WHICH IS OUR CONCERN. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: GO AHEAD, COUNCILOR DAVIS. I THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'M SORRY, I WAS GOING TO TELL HER THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE THEM REACHING OUT. . >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR HARRIS, JUST SO YOU KNOW YOUR AUDIO IS COMING IN AND OUT. >> HE WANTED US TO REACH OUT TO HIM? >>COUN. BORREGO: I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. THERE'S A QUESTION FROM COUNCILOR HARRIS. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES, JUST A COMMENT. I THINK THERE'S SOME CONTROLS THAT I THINK WE CAN TRUST THAT WOULD MAKE IT SO THEY SHOULD BE TREATED THE SAME. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR HARRIS. IT'S A PRETTY HIGH -- PRETTY DIFFICULT TO GET THE EA. >>COUN. BORREGO: SEND THAT TO MY OFFICE. THANK YOU. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK COUNCILOR SENA HAD HER HAND RAISED. >>COUN. BORREGO: I DON'T SEE HER ON THE -- THERE SHE IS. COUNCILOR SENA. GO AHEAD. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I KNOW THAT THERE'S AN OVERALL ORGANIZATION AND SOCIETY, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES. >>COUN. SENA: IT'S FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AFTER TALKING TO ENROLLED AGENT, ARE YOU REGULATED BY THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT? >> THAT'S WHO WE'RE REGULATED BY. THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY. AND THE CPAs, ATTORNEYS, ENROLLED AGENTS WE'RE BOUND BY CIRCULAR 230. WE HAVE TO HAVE CE CREDITS. WE HAVE TO HAVE EDUCATION AND CAB NUMBERS. EVEN NEW MEXICO PUT US ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD WITH CPAs AND ATTORNEYS. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, I'D LOVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PHOENIX. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TURN YOUR VIDEO ON. UNMUTE YOURSELF. AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILORS. I'M JUST HERE TO EXPRESS MY OPINION OF NO TO BUILDING A SOCCER STADIUM AT BROADWAY AND COAL. DUE TO TRAFFIC, NOISE, DISTURBING OF THE RESIDENTS. I'VE OWNED BY DUPLEX ONE BLOCK AWAY FOR 18 YEARS. IT IS ONE OF ALBUQUERQUE'S HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS. I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. WITH JUST RESIDENTIAL AND THE FEW SMALL COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES ON BROADWAY AND CENTRAL. I HAVE A PICTURE OF MY PROPERTY FROM 1892 WHEN IT WAS BUILT. IT'S STILL A BEAUTIFUL HOME. AND THAT'S ONE REASON WE BUY OUR PROPERTY IS BECAUSE IT HAD STRICT STANDARDS OF KEEPING THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURE. AND ALSO I'D LIKE TO SAY, I THINK IT'S UNWANTED PROGRESS. IF THE DECISION WILL BE MADE THAT IT WOULD BE ON SECOND AND IRON WHERE THE RAILYARDS AND BREAKING BAD SCENES WERE FILMED THAT MIGHT BE OF INTEREST. HOWEVER, I ADDITIONALLY WOULD VOTE NO ON FUNDING UNLESS -- >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KEITH. PLEASE TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MADAM PRESIDENT, I'M A BOARD MEMBER WITH THE BARELAS COALITION. I'M A LIFELONG MEMBER OF THAT COMMUNITY. WE FIND THE DIFFICULTY IN OUR ROLE AS WE SEE IT IN STRIKING A DELICATE BALANCE BETWEEN ENCOURAGING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND BEING STEWARDS OF THE COMMUNITY. WITH THE LACK OF NOTICE TO THE COMMUNITY WE'RE NOT WANTING TO BE OBSTRUCTIONISTS. HOWEVER, AS STAKEHOLDER REPRESENTATIVES AT THE NEGOTIATION TABLE WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS LEGALLY BINDING COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT. BASED UPON IMPACT STUDIES, EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY INPUT OF THE IMPACTED COMMUNITIES, NOT JUST BARELAS. WE ASK THE CITY TO BEAR THE FINANCIAL COST OF THIS PROCESS. WE FEEL THE TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO SET THE STANDARD AND DEVELOP A NATIONAL MODEL FOR COMMUNITY INCLUSION. WE'RE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC. TIME IS SHORT. BUT WE BELIEVE THE AGREEMENT IS CRUCIAL FOR THE OVERALL SUCCESS OF THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PETER. FEEL FREE TO TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY. ON THE STADIUM, I KNOW THERE'S GREAT OPINIONS BEFORE MINE. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR OPINION AND THE NEW MEXICO UNITED IS EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROPOSED POND AND STADIUM. WE HAVE A DEEP COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY. WE STARTED LONG BEFORE TALK OF A STADIUM. I THINK THE COMMUNITY MADE A COMMITMENT TO NEW MEXICO UNITED AS WE LEAD THE LEAGUE IN ATTENDANCE. EVEN WITH COVID AND UNCERTAINTY WE'RE AVERAGING OVER 9,000 PEOPLE PER GAME IN OUR CURRENT SEASON. IN 2020 WHEN WE WEREN'T PLAYING ANY GAMES WERE WERE STILL IN THE COMMUNITY AND SUPPLYING BLOOD DRIVES. I THINK THE STADIUM CAN BE MORE THAN JUST A PLACE WHERE WE PLAY SOCCER IT CAN BE A CATALYST FOR WHATEVER COMMUNITY IT'S LOCATED AND IN TERMS OF SHOWING THE VITALITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND ALSO BUILD A BRIDGE OF HOPE. NEW MEXICO UNITED, TO THE EXTENT WE HAVE A ROLE, WE WELCOME A CHANCE TO BE PART OF A PRIVATE-PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP THAT CAN BE A WIN-WIN. WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO GET ANYTHING FOR FREE. WE WANT TO BE PART OF THIS GREAT PROJECT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE BEFORE. WE CAN HELP FACILITATE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T DISRUPT ANYONE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND CONSIDERING THIS PROPOSAL. WE LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER DISCUSSION. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JOSEA. TURN YOUR VIDEO BACK ON AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. >> HI, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE BEEN PROUD TO CALL ALBUQUERQUE FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS. I'M SPEAKING TO URGE YOU TO PASS THE ZERO FARE BUS PILOT. I KNOW INCREASED RIDERSHIP OUR SYSTEM WOULD BE IMPROVED. STUDIES SHOW THIS PROGRAMS FACILITATE RIDER INCREASES. WE WOULD BENEFIT FROM FEWER TRAFFIC FATALITIES AND PREVENTS DWIs AND WOULD BE CLEANER AIR. AND IT MEANS ONE LESS OPPORTUNITY FOR RACIAL TARGETING. AS WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF LEGALIZING A SUBSTANCE WITH THE SAME EFFECTS AS ALCOHOL, IT'S A SAFER WAY GOING HOME WITHOUT WORRYING IF YOU HAVE THE CASH OR FARE TO TICKETS. THIS CITY WILL ALWAYS HAVE PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO CANNOT DRIVE. WE ALL DESERVE EQUITABLE TRANSPORTATION AND PARTICIPATE IN SOCIETY AND OUR CITY AT LARGE. THE ZERO FARE PROGRAM WOULD MAKE THE CITY MORE HOSPITABLE. I URGE YOU TO PASS IT AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NO BARRIER FOR OUR RIDERS. THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PAUL. PLEASE TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M FROM ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO. I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE. I OWN PROPERTIES IN DISTRICT TWO. THIS IS REGARDING THE BOND ELECTION FOR THE SOCCER STADIUM. I WANT TO STATE THAT I'M NOT ANTI--STADIUM OR ANTI- NEW MEXICO UNITED. I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT AT THE MOMENT. THAT'S WONDERFUL. I LIKE TO POINT OUT A COUPLE VERY SERIOUS DEFICIENCIES IN THE STUDY. OUT OF THE 356 PAGES OF THE STUDY, THERE ARE ONLY 22 PAGES DEVOTED TO ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. THIS IS THE ANALYSIS WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT. THERE'S VERY LITTLE INFORMATION DEDICATED TO THE TRUE IMPACT OF THE ALBUQUERQUE AREA. NOT TO MENTION THE DOWNTOWN CORE. PAGE 282 OF 356 IN PART TWO OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, I'M GOING TO QUOTE, ALL RESIDENTS ASSUME DISPLACEMENT SPENDING AND SUBSTITUTION. SUCH SPENDING IS NOT INCLUDED. END QUOTE. THAT SENTENCE IS NOT INCLUDED. A TRUE ECONOMIC ANALYSIS WOULD INCLUDE SUCH ITEMS. WHERE IS THIS REVENUE GOING TO COME FROM? AND WHO IS IT GOING TO IMPACT? I THINK DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES NEED TO KNOW, ALBUQUERQUE CITIZENS, AND TAXPAYERS WANT TO KNOW. ON PAGE 282 IT STATES THIS ECONOMIC ANALYSIS WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE ECONOMIC ANALYSIS FOR PLANNING. >> YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU, MUCH. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DAVID. PLEASE TURN YOUR VIDEO ON AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> HI, COUNCILORS, MADAM PRESIDENT THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY SPEAKS ON THIS ISSUE. I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL. I WELCOME TO WELCOME, COUNCILORS, AND OFFICIALS, TO MEET WITH US TO THE EXTENT WE CAN BE HELPFUL. AND THEM PACT SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAS THE ON THE COMMUNITY GOING FORWARD ON ECONOMIC IMPACT. I CERTAINLY WANT TO WELCOME THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO REACH OUT TO US TO THE EXTENT WE CAN BE HELPFUL AND APPRECIATE THE CITY'S TIME. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS REBECCA. TURN YOUR VIDEO BACK ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF, AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> HELLO, I'M AN ACTIVIST WITH THE PARTY FOR SOCIALISM AND LIBERATION. I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE USE OF $70 MILLION OF PUBLIC FINANCE TO BUILD A SOCCER STADIUM. THE MAYOR SAID WE EARNED A STADIUM. I WANT TO ASK WHAT DO PEOPLE HAVE TO DO TO EARN A CANCELLATION OF ALL KINDS OF DEBTS? WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO BE WORTHY OF A LIVING WAGE? THERE'S SO MANY ISSUES FACING WORKING PEOPLE IN NEW MEXICO. ONE IN THREE CHILDREN IN NEW MEXICO ARE GOING HUNGRY. THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SAID THE STADIUM IS TO REDUCE THE IMPACTS OF HOMELESSNESS. THIS IS A DISGUSTING ANTI- HUMAN EXPRESSION. IT ONLY SHOWS THEY CARE FOR PROFIT. WHY DON'T YOU USE $70 MILLION TO END HOMELESSNESS? BETTER YET WE HAVE VACANT HOMES TO HOUSE THE UNHOUSED. I'M HERE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE $70 MILLION IN FINANCING. IT SHOULD BE USED FOR PEOPLE'S NEEDS FIRST, NOT SOCCER STADIUMS. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS COLE. TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF, AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> I'M HERE IN TACOMA TO SEE UNITED PLAY. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN ALBUQUERQUE. I WENT TO UNM FOR ARCHITECTURE. I BOUGHT MY FIRST PIECE OF PROPERTY DOWNTOWN. THE COMMON THEME OF QUESTIONS OF BUILDING DOWNTOWN. IT'S THE DESIRE OF THE CLUB TO BENEFIT THE CITY. THE COMMON THEME THEY TALKED ABILITY SINCE DAY ONE, IT'S TO ELEVATE THE CITY TO A NEW LEVEL. IT'S NOT JUST SOCCER. IT WOULD BE A BOOST FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE. UNM WOULD NOT HAVE THE BEST INTEREST IN MIND. AND WOULD TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE FUNDING. AUSING UNM DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR DOWNTOWN FOR BUSINESSES DOWN THERE ALREADY. PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO THE UNM FIELD IS BAD. THE MARCH TO THE MATCH IS DANGEROUS. AND THERE'S NO BUSINESSES WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. WE WONDER WHY WE CAN APPROVE FOR A SHELTER AND NOBODY VOTES TO PUT IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE FOCUS ON IMMEDIATE REASONS NOT TO DO STUFF. UNITED AS A CLUB HAS DONE SO MUCH IN SERVICE OF OUR STATE. A STADIUM WOULD NOT ONLY FURTHER THAT WORK, BUT IT SHOULD TELL FUTURE GENERATIONS THAT WE'RE NOT SO FOCUSED ON OUR ISSUES TO THINK BIG PICTURE. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. >>COUN. BORREGO: ARE YOU RELATED TO MARION? >> HE WAS MY UNCLE. >>COUN. BORREGO: AND HE JUST PASSED AWAY. >> MY GREAT UNCLE. HE WAS MY GRANDFATHER AND ENGINEER ON THE PIT. >> I USED TO WORK FOR HIM WHEN HE WAS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER. >> THAT'S VERY COOL. >>COUN. BORREGO: GREAT TO SEE YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JERIMAYA. >> HI, EVERYONE. I'M A MEMBER FOR THE PARTY FOR SOCIALISM. I LOVE WATCHING THE UNITED PLAY, HOWEVER I CANNOT SUPPORT THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A STADIUM AT THIS TIME. THE CITY IS ACTING AS IF UNITED HAVING A STADIUM IS A CRISIS. WHEN IN FACT WE'RE FACING A CRISIS RIGHT NOW IN THE ECONOMIC FALLOUT OF COVID-19. WE'RE FACING HOMELESSNESS ON THE STREETS AND PEOPLE STARVING AND LIVING IN LOW INCOME HOUSING. WE NEED TO PUT THAT MONEY TOWARD NEEDS AND SUPPORT THEM AND BUILD THEM UP INSTEAD OF ANOTHER SPORTS STADIUM IN ALBUQUERQUE. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SHELBY. TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> HI, I WORK WITH SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY INCLUDING ALBUQUERQUE. I WANTED TO COME FORWARD AND EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION OF THE NEW STADIUM. I THINK THIS IS A GROSS LACK OF PRIORITY ON THE PART OF THE CITY. WE HAVE SO MANY PRESSING ISSUES THAT COME BEFORE THE STADIUM. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE NEARLY 500,000 PEOPLE FACING LOSS OF POWER DUE TO THE MORATORIUM ON UTILITIES BEING LIFTED. AS WELL AS THE ONCOMING THREAT OF MANY, MANY PEOPLE LOSING HOUSING. AND I THINK THAT SHOULD COME WAY BEFORE BUILDING A STADIUM THAT WILL ONLY BENEFIT FEW AND DISPLACE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR GENERATIONS. IT IS A GROSS USE OF PUBLIC FUNDING. IT MUST BE STOPPED. >> THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, WE HAD A FEW OTHERS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THEY HAVE NOT JOINED THE MEETING. THAT WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. MOYA. WITH THAT, WE'LL CONCLUDE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR TO THIS EVENING. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. WHICH IS ADMINISTRATION QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. WE WILL BEGIN OUR DISCUSSION WITH COUNCILOR DAVIS. COUNCILOR DAVIS, ARE YOU IN? >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, IF YOU WOULD PASS ME FOR JUST A MINUTE, I'M GOING TO FIND A BETTER INTERNET CONNECTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR BASSAN AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR SIMON. HE'S ON THE CALL. HOPEFULLY HE'S FEELING BETTER AND CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK. I DID GET SOMES -- THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS. I WANTED TO CHECK ON BEHALF OF SOME CONSTITUENT QUESTIONS. SPECIFICALLY, WITH REGARD TO PARK HOURS, DIRECTOR SIMON, I KNOW WE HAVE STANDARD POLICY OF HOURS AND SOME EXCEPTIONS FOR CERTAIN PARKS. I WANTED TO SEE IF YOU CAN REMIND US OF WHAT THOSE ARE. >> SURE. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THE CITY'S PARK ORDINANCE STATES THAT HOURS OF PARKS ARE ESSENTIALLY 6 A.M. TO 12 MIDNIGHT UNLESS OTHERWISE POSTED. VIRTUALLY EVERY PARK IN THE CITY IS 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY. I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE CERTAIN PARKS MIGHT BE BETTER SERVED TO HAVE A DAWN TO DUSK OR DUSK TO DAWN CLOSURE. IS THAT STILL SOMETHING -- IS THERE ANYTHING TO PREVENT US FROM DOING THAT? >> NO, NOTHING PREVENTS US FROM DOING THAT. THERE'S TWO PARKS WHERE WE ENFORCE A CLOSURE AT DUSK. THE REASON WE DO THAT IS WE HAVE WRITTEN AGREEMENTS WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT STEPPED FORWARD TO CLOSE THOSE GATES AT DUSK. OTHERWISE, IT'S DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: UNDERSTOOD. >> THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THAT FROM HAPPENING. AS WITH MOST LAWS, IT'S ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: IN DISCUSSIONS WITH BOTH YOURSELF AND PREVIOUS PARKS DIRECTORS, THE -- THE INITIAL DISCUSSIONS HAVING TO DO WITH VARIOUS ACTIVITIES IN THE PARK, ONE OF WHICH IS PRESENCE OF PEOPLE IN THE PARK AFTER THOSE HOURS. AND WHERE APD DID GET INVOLVED, BUT ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT THOSE HOURS WOULD WARRANT IT. ALSO, JUST A RELATED QUESTION. I'LL BE RIGHT UP FRONT. THIS HAS TO DO WITH CORONADO PARK AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TECHNICALLY A PARK. WELLS PARK, GREEN SPACE. IS THAT YOURS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, WELLS PARK ITSELF IS THE GREEN SPACE ADJACENT TO THE JOHNNY TAPIA COMMUNITY CENTER. >>COUN. BENTON: BOTH OF THOSE HAVE BEEN SEEING IMPACT FROM PEOPLE CAMPING. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE HOURS ARE THAT THEY'RE THERE. I THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HANGING AROUND DURING PARK'S OWN HOURS. I THINK SOME LIMITATIONS WITH REGARD TO STRUCTURES OR TENTS OR FOUR-SIDED SHELTERS. THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I'M RECEIVING FROM STAKEHOLDERS IN THE AREA OF THOSE TWO PARKS. I WON'T TAKE ANY MORE OF YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. >> I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY OTHER. >> THIS IS LAWRENCE IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. TO COUNCILOR BENTON'S QUESTION, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, COUNCILOR, THAT THE MAYOR IS WELL AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AND HAS HAD THE SAME CONVERSATIONS YOU'RE HAVING WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THAT PARTICULAR CITY FACILITY. WE'VE ASKED OUR SECURITY DIVISION FROM DMD TO DO PATROLS THERE AND HELP WITH THE ISSUES THAT ARE OCCURRING THERE. WE'D BE HAPPY TO SIT WITH YOU THIS WEEK AND GET YOU UP TO DATE ON WORKING WITH FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT WITH YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR.RAEL. COUNCILOR BENTON, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >>COUN. BENTON: NO, THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THIS TOPIC, IF I MAY? >>COUN. BORREGO: GO AHEAD, COUNCILOR. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, I LOVE THE AQUATIC CENTER BEHIND YOU. I HOPE THAT'S A VISION OF MY FUTURE. JUST TEASING. I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY MORE THAN NOT -- WE'RE HAVING THESE PROBLEMS AT MORE PARKS THAN NOT HAVING IT. SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, I THINK WE'VE HAD A CHRONIC PROBLEM AT VISTA DEL NORTE. I KNOW THEY HAVE GONE OUT SEVERAL TIMES TO REMOVE THE SAME TWO CARS. WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MITIGATE THE PROBLEM THERE. IT'S REALLY NOT A QUESTION, BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR MORE OR BE INVOLVED IN THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH WHAT THE MAYOR IS DOING AND WHAT THE CITY IS WORKING ON TO TRY TO MITIGATE THE PROBLEMS. FOR THOSE PEOPLE LIVING AND CAMPING AT THE PARKS AND FOR THOSE RESIDING NEAR THE PARKS THAT DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. I STILL LIKE YOUR POOL. >> THANK YOU. I JUST RETURNED FROM TOKYO WHERE I WON ZERO MEDALS. WHERE WE HAVE PARKS THAT HAVE GATES, COUNCILOR, WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB TO CLOSE THOSE GATES AT NIGHT. IT WON'T ELIMINATE PROBLEMS BUT IT ADDRESSES ONE ASPECT OF THE USAGE OF PARKS. VISTA DEL NORTE IS ONE OF THE PARKS. WE WANT TO ADD GATE CLOSING FOR STANDARD OPERATIONS. WHEN WE DO THAT WITH THE SUPPORT THAT IS GIVEN TO US, I THINK WE CAN MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT'S GREAT NEWS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. WE HAVE TWO OTHER COUNCILORS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS, COUNCILOR PEÑA AND COUNCILOR DAVIS. MR. SIMON, PLEASE DON'T GO AWAY YET. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I GUESS THIS IS LAWRENCE, AND DIRECTOR SIMON, I'VE CALLED YOU AS WELL. IT'S JUST A MAJOR CONCERN AT ALAMOSA, WEST GATE, AND TOWER PARK. I GET NUMEROUS CONSTITUENT CALLS. I CALLED DIRECTOR SIMON THIS PAST WEEK BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BENCHES AT ALAMOSA PARK. THERE'S TWO PEOPLE LIVING UNDER THE SHADE STRUCTURE. AND SOME OF THE PARENTS FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE PICKING UP FREE LUNCHES BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING A FEW ISSUES. SAME ISSUES, DIFFERENT PARK. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR DAVIS, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP AS WELL? >>COUN. DAVIS: I'M JUMPING BACK UP FOR MY QUESTIONS FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS. I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. SIMON. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. SIMON. WE HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER. NEXT TIME, BRING HOME THE GOLD. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. AND WE WILL JUMP TO COUNCILOR DAVIS. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU MADAM PRESIDENT. I SUBMITTED SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. IT'S SOME FOLLOW UP TO QUESTIONS WE HAD A FEW MONTHS AGO WITH THE NEW INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATORS AND THE POLICE REFORM DEPARTMENT. I THINK WE HAD BEEN TOLD THAT -- I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS THE CURRENT INVESTIGATORS ARE LATERALLY MOVING OVER OR WE'RE HIRING NEW ONES. I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN GET AN UPDATE. DID WE HIRE NEW INVESTIGATORS, OR ARE THEY MOVING LATERALLY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN. MAY I ASK YOUR INDULGENCE, WE'RE GETTING THE RIGHT FOLKS FROM APD TO CONNECT. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOURS. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BASSAN, IF YOU'LL YIELD FOR A MINUTE I'LL GO TO COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COME BACK. >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT'S FINE, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR DAVIS, THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE AND MY BAD INTERNET. I HOPE TO GET THAT FIXED. I CAN BARELY SEE, BUT I SEE DIRECTOR WAYLAND IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM. DIRECTOR, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. I KNOW WE GUT -- GOT A CHANCE TO SEND QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME. I THINK WE GOT A LOT OF COMMENTS OF BRINGING BACK THE PLASTIC BAG BAN. I UNDERSTAND THAT'S BACK IN PLACE. CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT'S THE CASE? AND THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS ENFORCING THAT BAN? >> AS OF YESTERDAY, THE BAG BAN IS BACK IN EFFECT. IT'S THE ORIGINAL BAN PUT IN PLACE PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC. IT'S LIKE WE PUSHED PAUSE AND NOW WE TAKE IT OFF AND WE'RE GETTING IT BACK STARTING YESTERDAY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. ONE FOLLOWF-UP. WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS AND COMMENTS, AND THEY ASK WHAT WE CAN TO STRENGTHEN THE ENFORCEMENT AND LIMIT THE USE OF RECYCLABLE BAGS. THE ONES YOU HAVE TO USE A THOUSAND TIMES. THERE'S ONE FROM TARGET THAT SAYS IT'S RECYCLABLE. IS OUR RECYCLING SYSTEM ACCEPTING THESE? >> I'M SORRY I DIDN'T ADDRESS THE LAST QUESTION PROPERLY. WE'VE NEVER ACCEPTED ANY TYPE OF BAG IN OUR RECYCLING STREAM. WHETHER IT'S ONE OF THE REUSABLE BAGS OR ANY TYPE OF BAGS. OUR SYSTEM HAS NEVER BEEN TO TAKE BAGS. THOSE RETURN TO THE STORES AND THEY RECYCLE THEN. THOSE BAGS YOU'RE LOOKING AT ARE MADE FROM RECYCLED MATERIALS AND CAN BE USED MORE THAN 120 TIMES. THAT'S THE DEFINITION THAT WAS ESTABLISHED. IT'S A REUSABLE BAG, NOT A SINGLE-USE BAG. >>COUN. DAVIS: IF I CAN FOLLOW THAT AND SAY, I KNOW WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS AND FOLKS HAVE ASKED AND THERE'S FLEXIBILITY BUILT INTO THE LAW. IT GIVES THE DIRECTOR OF SOLID WASTE TO ISSUE RULES TO DETERMINE WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE AND WHAT'S NOT. CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION AND ADDRESSING THESE? I THINK THERE'S A UNIVERSAL BELIEF THAT THESE ARE EXPLOITING A LOOPHOLE IN THE RULE-MAKING PROCESS AND THERE'S INTEREST IN CLOSING THAT. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, WHEN WE STARTED THE BAG BAN WE STARTED A PROCESS. THE ORDINANCE DIDN'T HAVE A DEFINITION OF WHAT WAS ACCEPTABLE. WE HAD TO COME UP WITH A DEFINITION SO ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COULD ENFORCE IT. SO BASED ON WHAT WE DID, WE CAME UP WITH A DEFINITION AND WE INSTITUTED THAT DEFINITION OF WHAT WAS ACCEPTABLE. WE GOT NINE WEEKS PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC THAT WE STARTED TRACKING WHAT STORES WERE DOING. WE MADE THE DEFINITION TO SEE HOW THE RESPONSES WERE DONE. PER THE ORDINANCE, WE WERE GOING TO DO A STUDY AND BASED ON THE STUDY WE HAD GROUP PUT TOGETHER FOR THE ORDINANCE OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS, AND BASED ON THAT THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF HOW TO STRENGTHEN THE ORDINANCE. BACK WHEN IT WAS PASSED, IT WAS AN INITIAL FIRST STEP ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. BECAUSE WE NEVER REALLY GOT TO MOVE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THAT, WE PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN CAN WITHIN THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR MONTHS. WE'RE GOING TO GATHER THAT INFORMATION AND PUT IT TO THIS TASK FORCE. IT'S NOT A TASK FORCE, I CAN'T THINK OF THE WORDING. THEY WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL IN 2022 OF WHAT THE NEXT DEFINITION SHOULD BE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR AND MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST TO CLOSE, THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST HAPPENED TO PULL THE LAW UP AND I WANTED TO MENTION IT'S A TEMPORARY ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. THE LAW CALLS FOR IT IN THE SECOND HALF OF THE FISCAL YEAR. IT DOES CALL FOR A REPORT. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, FOR MY PERSPECTIVE AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ORIGINALLY, I WANTED TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY BUT WE WANT TO SEE THESE BAGS ARE NOT ALLOWABLE. I HOPE THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD MOVE FORWARD TO DO THAT. I THINK YOU NEED -- I DON'T THINK WE NEED A CHANGE IN THE LAW, WE NEED A CHANGE OF DEFINITIONS. THANK YOU, SIR. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, I HAVE YOUR LIST OF QUESTIONS. I'LL SEND MORE DETAILED RESPONSES. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. IT LOOKS LIKE COUNCILOR GIBSON HAS A QUESTION. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DO. ACTUALLY, I JUST WANT TO INDICATE MY SUPPORT FOR WHAT COUNCILOR DAVIS JUST SAID. I APPRECIATE SOLID WASTE, YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT, WORKING ON THIS AND TRYING TO FIND SOLUTIONS. I THINK THAT WHAT OUR INTENTION WAS TO USE LESS PLASTIC RATHER THAN PUT MORE PLASTIC ON THE MARKET. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MISSING THAT BY ALLOWING THE THICKER PLASTIC BAGS. NOBODY'S FAULT, I'M NOT POINTING ANY FINGERS. IT'S JUST THAT I HOPE THIS GROUP WILL COME BACK WITH SOME GOOD THOUGHT AND SUGGESTIONS ON HOW WE CAN GET BACK ON TRACK. THEY CAN BE THROWN AWAY JUST AS QUICKLY AS THE TARGET BAGS CAN. MULTIPLE USE IS REALLY IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER. THAT'S A PRACTICE THAT PEOPLE EITHER CREATE A HABIT AND USE PLASTIC BAGS OR THEY DON'T. I THINK IF WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT OUR GOAL HERE IS TO LESSEN THE DEMAND FOR PLASTIC. THAT SHOULD BE WHERE WE START FROM. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE ONLY EIGHT TO NINE WEEKS INTO THE INITIAL BAG BAN WE WERE SEEING -- I KNOW THERE WERE BIG BOX STORES THAT USED THE THICKER BAG. WE WERE ALREADY STARTING TO SEE LESS PLASTIC. THERE WERE SEVERAL STORES NOT GIVING OUT BAGS AT ALL. HOME DEPOT. CERTAIN DOLLAR TREES WERE MAKING YOU BUY A BAG. CERTAIN PLACES WERE GIVING PAPER BAGS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO STARTING SEPTEMBER 1. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE STORES 30 DAYS TO ADJUST. STARTING SEPTEMBER 1 WE'RE GOING TO CONTACTING EVERY STORE TO SEE HOW THEY CHANGED THEIR BEHAVIOR. THAT'S THE INFORMATION WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT. SO WE CAN SEE WHERE WE REDUCED IN AREAS AND OTHER STORES ADJUSTED IN THAT WAY, AND THEY CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF A NEW DEFINITION OF WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO BE ENFORCED. >>COUN. GIBSON: ALL OF THOSE EXAMPLES YOU GAVE WERE NO PLASTIC. LESS PLASTIC OR NO PLASTIC. THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO GO. WE DON'T WANT THICK PLASTIC. WE DON'T WANT TO PUT MORE PLASTIC INTO THE MARKET. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. WE HAVE COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR PEÑA WAITING IN THE QUEUE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WASN'T HERE WHEN THIS PLASTIC BAG BAN WENT THROUGH THE COUNCIL. I WENT TO LOWES. THEY WERE NOT GIVING OUT BAGS AT ALL. I DO BELIEVE THERE IS THE NEED TO REDUCE PLASTIC USAGE WHERE WE CAN. I ALSO THINK THERE IS A NEED FOR SINGLE USE PLASTIC OR SOMETHING OF THE LIKE. I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FIND A WAY TO USE IT FOR PICKING UP DOG WASTE. I HAVE A CONSTITUENT WE'VE HEARD FROM, PICKING UP LITTER AND CIGARETTE BUTTS. NO ONE WANTS TO PUT THOSE IN REUSABLE BAGS. I USE REUSABLE BAG AND PLASTIC BAGS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, AND MY QUESTION, WHAT ARE WE DOING NOW THAT COVID IS COMING BACK? WHAT ARE WE DOING NOW THAT WE'RE SHUTTING DOWN AGAIN? ARE WE PREMATURE ON THIS TOO? IF WE'RE SAYING WE'RE CAN'T DO IN-PERSON MEETINGS AND WEARING MASKS AGAIN. SHOULDN'T WE SAY THIS IS AN UNBAN? HAS THE ADMINISTRATION CONSIDERED LOOKING INTO THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC AND THE PURPOSE OF BEING ABLE TO USE PLASTIC? I THINK THE PUBLIC IS VERY SENSITIVE AND THEY SHOULD BE FOR THE SAFETY OF THE SAME REASONS WE DID THIS ALL LAST YEAR. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE BAN GOT REENACTED. WE'LL ADJUST AS THINGS CHANGE LIKE WE HAVE DONE FOR THE LAST 16 MONTHS. THINGS CAN CHANGE FROM ONE WEEK TO THE NEXT. WE'LL DEVELOP, ADAPT, ADJUST AND MOVE FORWARD. I THINK THE BAG BAN IS A VERY GOOD IDEA. ALL IN FAVOR OF USING REUSABLE BAGS. THAT'S WHY WHEN WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION WE CAN'T SAY NO PLASTIC. THE BAGS WE HAVE ALL OVER THE PLACE ARE USING PLASTIC. SAFETY IS A MAJOR CONCERN. AND THE ADMINISTRATION PUT THE SAFETY OF OUR GROCERY STORES INTO ACCOUNT WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT. WE'LL ADJUST. >>COUN. BASSAN: IF I MAY FOLLOW UP PLEASE? >>COUN. BORREGO: GO AHEAD. >>COUN. BASSAN: I GUESS, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, DIRECTOR. MY QUESTION IS REALLY CAO NAIR, ARE WE INTENDING TO CONTINUE THIS PLASTIC BAG BAN RIGHT NOW WHEN THINGS ARE LOOKING A LITTLE UNSTABLE AGAIN WHEN WE COULD MAYBE HEDGE SOME OF THIS? WE CAN BE ABUNDANTLY CAUTIOUS WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE HEARING AGAIN AFTER WE GOT USED TO NOT HEARING IT. BEFORE WE START DOING STUDIES AND USAGE OR NOT, WHILE PEOPLE ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO THIS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I THINK THE QUESTION DESERVES FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE MAYOR. AT THIS POINT, WE OPTED TO BEGIN THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE BAG BAN SIMPLY AT THE BEHEST OF SOME OF THE COLLEAGUES AND COMMUNITY. WE WERE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. AS DIRECTOR SAID, THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND THERE MAY BE A NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT TO WHAT DEGREE THE CHANGE DIRECTLY IMPACTS OUR ABILITY TO CARRY OUT THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. WE HAVE NOT MADE A CHANGE, AT THIS POINT. CERTAINLY, AS THINGS MOVE FORWARD IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS THERE MAY BE A NEED TO REVIEW THIS. WE'LL BE HOPING TO KEEP YOU INFORMED AND GIVE, ESPECIALLY THE RETAILERS AND OTHERS, ENOUGH NOTIFICATION IF SOMETHING DOES CHANGE. WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M ON THE RECORD OF SAYING I THINK WE'RE PREMATURE OF GETTING RID OF THE USE OF PLASTIC BAGS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I GUESS MY QUESTIONS ARE SIMILAR TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. I THOUGHT IT WOULD COME BEFORE US, NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO. BUT NOW THAT WE'RE REIMPLEMENTING THE BAN, I HAVE SIMILAR CONCERNS. ONE, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS INITIALLY, I HAD MENTIONED THAT IN SAN FRANCISCO THEY USED THESE PLASTIC BAGS THAT WERE RECYCLABLE. WHAT IS THE ISSUE WITH THOSE BAGS? SECOND, I THINK DURING COVID WE LEARNED A LOT. EVEN THOUGH WE'RE TRYING TO DO SAFETY FOR US, MANY OF THE CASHIERS AND TALKING TO MANY OF THE CASHIERS RAISED THE CONCERN NUMEROUS TIMES WHEN I WAS AT THE GROCERY STORE THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT THE BAGS WE WERE BRINGING IN. BECAUSE WE'RE BRINGING THOSE GERMS TO THEM. WE HAVE THEM IN THE CAR, KIDS, DOGS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. I WOULD REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN BE CREATIVE AND I THINK THE REUSABLE PLASTIC BAGS, I HATE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE SO THICK. BUT IF THEY'RE RECYCLABLE, I THINK IT'S A MEAN TO GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO AS LONG AS THEY'RE BEING RECYCLED. IF YOU CAN START WITH THE FIRST QUESTION. >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WE HAVE NEVER ACCEPTED EVEN THE SINGLE USE PLASTIC BAGS. WE TOLD PEOPLE NOT TO PUT THOSE IN YOUR BLUE CAN. WE DON'T DO ANY RECYCLED BAGS WE'VE ALWAYS TOLD PEOPLE TO TAKE THEM BACK TO THE GROCERY STORES. THEY HAD BOXES TO TAKE THE BAGS BACK. THE AMENDMENT YOU HAD FOR THE TWO, IT WOULDN'T THE THICKNESS IT WAS THE MAKE-UP OF THE BAG. IT WAS A NUMBER TWO TYPE OF RECYCLABLE. WE HAVE NEVER ACCEPTED THOSE. WE HAVE NEVER HAD THE ABILITY TO DO THAT THERE. THAT'S THE FIRST ISSUE WITH THE SINGLE-USE OR MULTIPLE-USE BAGS. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR, CAN THEY? I THINK THAT WAS WHERE I WAS HEADED TOWARD BACK THEN. IF THEY'RE RECYCLABLE, BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE TAKES THEM BACK TO THE GROCERY STORE. AND I'M NOT SURE THE STORES WANT THEM BACK. CAN FREEDMAN DO THAT? DO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT? >> NO, THEY HAVE NEVER ACCEPTED THEM SINCE THE INCEPTION. THEY HAVE BEEN SENT BACK TO THE GROCERY STORES PRIOR TO COVID. BECAUSE THE GROCERY STORES ARE ABLE TO RECYCLE THEM. THAT'S WHY WE SAY DON'T PUT THEM IN THE BLUE CAN BECAUSE THEY CAN BECOME TANGLERS. SO, WE'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO ACCEPT ANY TYPE OF BAG WHETHER IT'S A SINGLE-USE OR MULTI-USE BAG OR ONE OF THE BAGS WE HAVE GIVEN AWAY. TO THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION ABOUT COVID,ON JULY 1 WHEN THE STATE OPENED BACK UP, WE DIDN'T WANT TO INSTITUTE IT RIGHT AWAY. WE WANTED TO GIVE THEM 30 DAYS AND BEGAN LETTING KNOW THIS IS COMING BACK IN 30 DAYS. AND IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, IF EVERYTHING HOLDS CONSTANT WE'LL BEGIN THE STUDY WE NEED TO DO. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. MADAM PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR WAYLAND, BACK TO WHAT COUNCILOR BASSAN SAID. SWITCHING BACK AND FORTH IS A TREMENDOUS COST TO THESE BUSINESSES. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE ASKING THEM TO MAYBE IN A WEEK WE CLOSE DOWN THEY CAN START DOING THAT AGAIN. IT SENDS MIXED MESSAGES, DURING THIS TOUGH TIME. THE SMALLER BUSINESSES I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I AGREE. THAT'S WHY WE DID NOT CHANGE THE DEFINITION. WE HAD AN INITIAL DEFINITION WHEN WE STARTED THIS. AND PEOPLE SAID WE NEEDED TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE GROCERS CHANGED TO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF BAG. WE FELT WE COULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE STARTED WITH A DEFINITION AND WE NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THIS COMMITTEE. WE JUST HAVE TO ADJUST AS WE GO. >>COUN. PEÑA: ONE FINAL THING, I THINK WE REALLY HAVE TO CONSIDER THE REUSABLE BAGS THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN. I KNOW IT'S A HEALTH ISSUE. THE PANDEMIC ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THESE ISSUES ARE RISING. I WOULD REALLY LOVE FOR US TO LOOK AT HOW THOSE RECYCLABLE PLASTIC BAGS, WHAT WE CAN DO TO UTILIZE THOSE AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE A MECHANISM TO MAKE SURE THEY GET RECYCLED. FOR MYSELF, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO PUT PEOPLE'S LIVES AT RISK AND TAKING THE BAGS I HAVE IN THE BACK OF THE CAR WITH WHATEVER IN THERE TO OUR GROCERS. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH FREEDMAN TO SEE IF THEY CAN EXPAND THE MATERIALS THEY CAN TAKE. WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM. THE RECYCLING STUDY JUST CAME OUT. I PLAN TO MEET WITH YOU BASED ON THAT STUDY IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO. WE'LL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD, IF IT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN DO WE'LL PUT IT ON THE TABLE FOR THEM TO ADD. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO JUST ADJUST WHEN IT COMES TO COVID RESTRICTIONS. >>COUN. PEÑA: ONE FINAL THING. YES, I'D LOVE TO DO THAT. I READ THAT, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE THEY CAN BE DOING. MY FINAL QUESTION IS, WHEN DOES THEIR CONTRACT END? >> I THINK IT ENDS AT THE END OF 2023. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: JUST TO FOLLOW-UP, WITH THE LINE OF QUESTIONING FROM THE COUNCIL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF THERE ARE ISSUES IN THE FUTURE AND I KNOW WE HAVE A CONTRACT AND THERE'S CERTAIN SCOPE AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO MEET, BUT IF THERE'S THINGS THE COUNCIL CAN HELP THE DEPARTMENT WITH, WE DO HAVE AN UPCOMING BUDGET ADJUSTMENT. WE DO WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY. THE BEST TECHNOLOGY THAT THERE IS TO OFFER FOR THIS TYPE OF RECYCLING. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL THE QUESTIONS THE COUNCILORS ASKED REGARDING THIS. BECAUSE IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, PEOPLE IN THE MARKET WANT TO HAVE SOME PREDICTABILITY. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BE LOOKING AT WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO US OUT THERE AS A COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: WITH THAT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I SEE CHIEF MEDINA HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU, CHIEF, CHIEF FOR JOINING US. I HAD QUESTIONS REGARDING THE NEW POLICE REFORM DEPARTMENT AND THE CURRENT INVESTIGATORS THAT ARE DOING THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATIONS. DID WE LATERALLY MOVE THEM FROM WHERE THEY WERE FROM UNDERNEATH YOUR BRANCH? OR DID WE HIRE NEW INVESTIGATORS? >> A COMBINATION OF BOTH, COUNCILOR. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE THIS AFTERNOON. IT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH. WHAT WE DID IS WE HAD ABOUT 12 THAT WERE ASSIGNED THERE. AT THE SAME TIME AS THEY WERE MOVED OVER, WE OPENED CIVILIAN SPOTS WE HAD BEEN FILLING WITH TAKING OVER THOSE INVESTIGATIONS. BETWEEN THE TWO EFFORTS WE HAVE TO GET TO 25 WHICH WAS THE AMOUNT SPECIFIED IN THE CASA AGREEMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: YOU SAID 25 IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE. IS IT OUR INTENTION THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE CIVILIANS OR ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A MIX? >> EVENTUALLY, I'D LIKE TO GET AS MANY CIVILIANS AS POSSIBLE. AND THE MORE CIVILIANS WE CAN GET THE BETTER. I'D LIKE TO BRING OVER AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. THE SWORN WOULD HAVE TO BE THERE BECAUSE THEY GOT INTO THE POSITIONS AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW THEM TO BE THERE BEFORE WE REPLACE THEM. I FORESEE IT'S GOING TO GIVE MIXED AND GROWING INTO CIVILIANS INTO THAT ROLE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANKS, CHIEF. CAN YOU ELABORATE, OR IF IT'S FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DIVIDE THIS UP. I GUESS I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT WAS THE ONE THAT OVERSEES THIS PART OF WHAT I'M ASKING ABOUT. MAYBE YOU GUYS TAG-TEAMED THAT. I'M WONDERING WHAT THE CASE LOAD IS FOR EACH INVESTIGATOR. >> I DON'T HAVE THOSE SPECIFICS. THIS IS SOMETHING THE SUPERINTENDENT -- WHAT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW IS THE CASE LOADS ARE -- JUST USE THIS AS AN ESTIMATE. THERE ARE 35 USE OF FORCE CASES A WEEK. AND WE HAVE TO TIMES THAT BY 52 AND DIVIDE IT BY THE 25. THE CASE LOAD IS NOT AS HIGH AS YOU WOULD THINK FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. I'VE BEEN TOLD IT TAKES UP TO 56 HOURS TO INVESTIGATE A USE OF FORCE. WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT MUCH TIME AND GETTING THE PRESENTATION READY AND PRESENTING IT TO FORCE REVIEW BOARD, YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE TWO CASES A MONTH. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU FOR THAT CHIEF. I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAT I KNOW ARE GOING TO FALL UNDER YOUR PURVIEW. I DON'T KNOW IF SUPERINTENDENT STANLEY IS AVAILABLE. I CAN ALSO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. I WAS HOPING TO GET SOME OF THE ANSWERS WITH THE STATS ON WHAT THIS DIVISION IS DOING AND WHAT THE CASE LOAD IS. IF WE CAN GET AN UPDATE AND MAKE SURE THE ADMINISTRATION ADDS IT TO THE AUGUST 16th MEETING, I PREFER THAT. AND CHIEF, I HAVE HAD A FEW CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE MIND-BLOWING TO ME. I LEARNED THAT APD MARKED VEHICLES, AND I HOPE YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I LEARNED THE NEW APD MARKED VEHICLES IN PARTICULAR, I REALIZE THE OLDER ONES I SHOULDN'T BE WORRIED ABOUT THAT. THEY DON'T COME WITH RADAR DETECTORS INSTALLED. >> NO THEY DO NOT. EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, 26 YEARS, THEY'VE NEVER COME STANDARD WITH RADAR UNITS. WE JUST PURCHASED, WE GENERATED THE FUNDING AND PURCHASED 100 UNITS FOR INSTALLING IN THE NEW POLICE CARS. AND OUR PLAN IS FROM HERE FORWARD TO PUT THEM IN HALF OF THE CARS THAT WE'RE PURCHASING SO AT LEAST EVENTUALLY HALF OF THE FLEET HAS RADARS. YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THIS ADMINISTRATION IS THE FIRST TO INVEST IN WIDE-SPREAD USE OF RADAR. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M GLAD TO HEAR WE'RE DOING THAT. I'M A VERY BIG ADVOCATE OF MAKING SURE WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING SURE OUR FLEET -- I'M LIKE DO THEY COME WITH TIRES OR DO WE HAVE TO UPDATE THOSE. I FIGURED THAT IN A CITY THAT WE HAD SUCH A SPEEDING PROBLEM OUR OFFICERS WOULD HAVE RADAR DETECTORS. AND TO FIND OUT THAT'S NOT STANDARD IS TRULY DISAPPOINTING. I'M HAPPY TO HEAR WE'RE GETTING 100. I THINK WE NEED TO GET MORE. THERE'S THE LASER RADAR DETECTOR GUNS THAT OFFICERS STAND AND POINT THEM AT CARS TO SEE HOW FAST THEY'RE GOING. I LEARNED THOSE GET CHECKED OUT LIKE A LIBRARY BOOK. AND OFFICERS HAVE TO CHECK THEM OUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO USE THEM. HOW MANY DO WE HAVE? >> GENERALLY, THERE'S ENOUGH TO HAVE ABOUT TEN PER AREA COMMAND. THERE CAN BE MORE OR LESS. THAT'S BEEN THE PROCESS SINCE I WAS ON PATROL. I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS ADMINISTRATION IS DOING A GREAT JOB IN TAKING THE STEPS OF FORMALIZING THIS BASIC ISSUE. SO IT'S REDABLY AVAILABLE TO OFFICERS. WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL TO PUT IT IN EVERY SINGLE UNIT. WE LOOK TO SEE WHICH OFFICERS GIVE THE MOST TICKETS TO BEGIN WITH. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT TO A UNIT TO SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T GIVE A BIG AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC TICKETS TO BEGIN WITH. >>COUN. BASSAN: I THINK THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE SHOULD HAVE IT. I THINK IF THERE'S DOWN TIME IN A CITY THAT'S CRYING OUT FOR HELP WITH SPEEDING, THIS WOULD BE GREAT. I'M THE FIRST ONE TO SAY THAT I'M SURE THERE'S NO DOWN TIME FOR OFFICERS. LET'S PRETEND THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT POINT. I THINK THEY NEED PROPER SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT. WE'RE THE ONES THAT MAKE THE BUDGET. I'M GOING TO TALK WITH COUNCIL STAFF AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE WE CAN BEEF UP THIS PART OF THE EQUIPMENT PROCESS. PEOPLE ARE SAYING WE HAVE A SPEEDING PROBLEM, US COUNCILORS HAVE SAID WE HAD A SPEEDING PROBLEM AND THE MAYOR SAID WE HAD A SPEEDING PROBLEM, JUST BECAUSE THIS IS THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS DONE DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. I THINK REDUCING THE SPEEDING PROBLEM IN ALBUQUERQUE WILL HELP CHANGE THE CULTURE TO REDUCE THE VIOLENT CRIME OVER THE LONG RUN. >> LIKE I SAID, WE DID TAKE THAT STEP. WE SHOULD HAVE, BY OCTOBER 1, THEY'RE HOPING TO HAVE THE FIRST 100 UNITS INSTALLED. LIKE I SAID, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THEM INTO THE NEWER UNITS THAT ARE COMING. WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THE ONES AT THE END OFF. THE MORE WE CAN INSTALL THE BETTER. WE MAKE A PRIORITY WITH THE OFFICERS THAT GIVE THE MOST TICKETS AND GO FROM THERE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. MAYBE EVERY OFFICER IN THE TRAFFIC UNIT SHOULD HAVE ONE. >> TRAFFIC IS THE EXCEPTION. THEY HAVE THE TOOLS THEY NEED. >>COUN. BORREGO: I WOULD JUST MENTION THAT I FIRST WAS ELECTED TO COUNCIL, I ASKED APD ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT. THEY GAVE ME A LIST OF THINGS I WAS ABLE TO HELP THEM WITH. JUST A NOTICE WE'RE ABLE TO PURCHASE SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT FOR THEM. >>COUN. BASSAN: I RECOGNIZE THAT WE CAN CAN USE SET ASIDE. I HAVE STREETS I NEED TO REPAIR. I HAVE OTHER ISSUES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A $223 MILLION DIVISION. WHY DON'T OUR OFFICERS HAVE EQUIPMENT IN THEIR VEHICLES. I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE THEM IN OLDER CAR AND NEWER CARS. I'LL PUT THAT ON THE BUDGET TIME NEXT TIME AROUND. I APPRECIATE HAVING DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. I DON'T HAVE MORE QUESTION. I'LL CIRCLE BACK ON THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR POPPING ON. >> THANK YOU, HAVE A GOOD EVENING. >>COUN. BORREGO: CHIEF, AND TO THE ADMINISTRATION, COUNCILOR BASSAN SUBMITTED A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS. I THINK SHE AND I WOULD BOTH APPRECIATE THAT YOU RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS BEFORE OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, YES I JUST GOT THE QUESTIONS EMAILED TO ME. WE'LL GO THROUGH THEM AND MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL HAS THE ANSWERS BEFORE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. >> I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T SEE THE QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. PADILLA. COUNCILOR BASSAN, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER? WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR ITEM SIX, WHICH IS THE JOURNAL. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL FOR THE JUNE 17th JOURNAL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. DO I HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILOR SENA, I SEE YOUR HAND UP. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR DAVIS, THANK YOU. COUNCILOR GIBSON YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE JUNE 17 JOURNAL. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE ANY. WITH THAT, MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: . >>COUN. GIBSON: I MOVE PROVAL OF THE JUNE 21 JOURNAL. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR GIBSON, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >>COUN. GIBSON: NO. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS REGARDING THE JUNE 21st JOURNAL? I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS IN THE QUEUE. WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. >>COUN. GIBSON: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 25th JOURNAL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. COUNCILOR BASSAN HAS THE SECOND. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MS. ORTEGA. THAT ITEM PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR COMMUNICATION AND INTRODUCTIONS. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? I DO HAVE ONE CHANGE, COUNCILORS. IF I MAY READ THAT. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLACING OC38 ON TODAY'S AGENDA FOR ACTION. OC-38 IS THE SELECTION OF THE DIRECTOR OF COUNCIL SERVICES. WITH THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, I NEED TWO THIRDS OF THE COUNCILORS PRESENT TO VOTE. WE DO HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS RAISED REGARDING THAT ISSUE. MS. ORTEGA, WE WILL MOVE TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CONGRATULATE -- >> MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: SORRY. >> IF I MAY, THIS MOTION WAS TO PLACE IT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT WILL COME UP LATER UNDER APPROVALS. >>COUN. BORREGO: SORRY, I KNOW. I WAS GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF. WITH THAT, COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR GIBSON, THANK YOU. WITH THAT, DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'M LOOKING AT THE QUEUE, I DON'T SEE HANDS RAISED. COUNCILOR SENA, COUNCILOR BASSAN. WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS COUNCILORS? IF NOT, THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR DEFERRALS AND WITHDRAWALS. DO WE HAVE ANY DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS? I SEE COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COUNCILOR BENTON. ITEM O-50. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE DEFERRAL >>COUN. DAVIS: I MOVE DEFERRAL UNTIL AUGUST 16th. >>COUN. BORREGO: I SEE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR JONES. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? IF NOT, MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0 ON THE DEFERRAL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MS. ORTEGA. GIVE ME JUST A MINUTE. I NEED TO WRITE SOMETHING DOWN. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BENTON, ITEM R-135. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE DEFERRAL OF R-135. THAT'S A NUISANCE SUBSTANDARD DWELLING AT 1717 EDITH. I MOVE DEFERRAL UNTIL AUGUST 16th. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY, YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0 ON THE DEFERRAL UNTIL AUGUST 16th. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MS. ORTEGA. WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM. WHICH IS ALSO COUNCILOR BENTON, THAT'S R-155. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IT'S ANOTHER NUISANCE SUBSTANDARD DWELLING OR STRUCTURE IN NEED OF ABATEMENT. THIS IS AT HIGH STREET. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? IF NOT, MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0 ON THE DEFERRAL UNTIL AUGUST 16th. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MS. ORTEGA. COUNCILOR BENTON, YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF THESE DEFERRALS. R-171. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. 171 IS CONCERNING FUTURE MANAGEMENT OF THE CANDELARIA NATURE PRESERVE AND APPROVAL OF THE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT PLAN. I MOVE DEFERRAL UNTIL AUGUST 16th. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? IF NOT, MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0 ON THE DEFERRAL UNTIL AUGUST 16th. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MS. ORTEGA. I ALSO HAVE A DEFERRAL UNDER THE FINAL ACTIONS. WOULD I ADD THAT HERE? I DON'T SEE IT ON THE SCRIPT. SHOULD I WAIT? >> THIS WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE PLACE, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A DEFERRAL TO OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH I GUESS IS AUGUST 16th. O-38. COUNCILORS, I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TODAY. THEY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT -- >>COUN. BORREGO: IT'S O-49. I WROTE DOWN THE WRONG NUMBER. THAT'S THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS. I MAKE THAT MOTION AND I SEE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILORS? IF NOT, MS. ORTEGA, FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. I ASK IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'M GOING TO READ THIS INTO THE RECORD. FOR INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA WHO ARE BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION OR WHO MAY BE WATCHING FROM HOME, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: I MOVE PROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. COUNCILOR SENA OFFERS A SECOND. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE ANY. WITH THAT, MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MS. ORTEGA. CONGRATULATIONS TO ANY APPOINTEES ON THE AGENDA. COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 11, WHICH ARE ANNOUNCEMENTS. THIS EVENING WE HAVE COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR SENA, COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR BENTON. I'M NOT SURE WHO WANTS TO OFFER THEIR COMMENTS WITH REGARD TO 0-21-59. GO AHEAD, WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. >>COUN. BASSAN: I TRIED TO GET COUNCILOR PEÑA TO DO IT. >>COUN. PEÑA: YOU GO AHEAD. >>COUN. BASSAN: WITH REGARD TO O-21-69, THE AUTOMATED SPEED ENFORCEMENT. WE WILL HAVE A ZOOM WEBINAR ON THURSDAY AUGUST 5th FROM 11:30 A.M. TO 1 P.M. WE'LL ALSO HAVE TWO IN MEETINGS ON AUGUST 12 FROM 6:30 TO 7:30 P.M. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. IS THERE ANY OTHER COUNCILOR THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO, THANK YOU MADAM PRESIDENT. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE COMMUNITY INPUT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THANK YOU FOR THAT WORK. THE NEXT ITEM IS COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE WILL BE A FINANCE AND OPERATIONS MEETING A 3 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING ON TUESDAY AUGUST 10th AT 3 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THERE WILL BE A LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 11, AT 3 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT ISSUE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12 WHICH IS PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED. COUNCILOR GIBSON, I'M SORRY. >>COUN. GIBSON: I HATE TO SLOW US DOWN, WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED. I HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. >>COUN. BORREGO: GO AHEAD, COUNCILOR GIBSON, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >>COUN. GIBSON: I WANT TO MENTION IT BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH WORK THAT WAS PUT INTO THIS MILE HIGH DISTRICT IN SAN PEDRO CORRIDOR APPLIED AND WAS ACCEPTED ALONG WITH NINE OTHER COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. THIS PROJECT WAS ONE OF FOUR THAT WAS GRANTED THROUGH THE URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR INITIATIVE. IT READS THE SAN PEDRO CORRIDOR REVITALIZATION PLAN. ALBUQUERQUE SAN PEDRO MAIN STREET CORRIDOR IN THE MILE HIGH DISTRICT. THIS IS A PLANNING TO REVITALIZE SAN PEDRO CORRIDOR. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THEM FOR THEIR DETERMINATION AND THE HARD WORK AND THE COOPERATIVE SPIRIT. ACROSS THE DISTRICT SEVEN BOUNDARIES INTO THE DISTRICT SIX. AND THEIR PARTICIPATION TOO. CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ON THIS. THANK YOU. I'M THRILLED. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU,COUNCILOR GIBSON. THAT AREA IS MUCH-NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS. ANY OTHER COUNCILORS THAT NEED OR WISH TO ADDRESS? I SEE COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND NOTED HARD WORK AND DETERMINATION ALSO APPLY TO OUR COLLEAGUE COUNCILOR GIBSON FOR HER WORK ON THAT CORRIDOR OVER THE YEARS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. OKAY, COUNCILORS, WE'LL -- I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER IN THE QUEUE. WE HAVE FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING. WE WILL START WITH ITEM NUMBER A. AC-21-6. SYCAMORE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION APPEALS THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINERS DECISION. DO WE WANT TO -- ARE WE HEARING THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NEXT ITEM? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, YES. ITEMS A AND B ARE RELATED. THEY HAVE SIMILAR SETS OF FACTS SKWU AND APPLY AND APPLY TO THE SAME PROPERTY. >>COUN. BORREGO: THESE ARE LOCATED IN THE SYCAMORE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AREA. GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. COUNCILORS, THIS SPECIFIC SITE AT ISSUE IS LOCATED AT 1203 COAL AVENUE. IT'S THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF COAL AND CEDER. THEY REQUESTED AFOUR VARIANCES AT THAT PARTICULAR SITE. THE ZONING EXAMINE APPROVED. THEY INCLUDE HEIGHT VARIANCE, BUFFERING REQUIREMENT, VARIANCE TO THE REAR SETBACK AND HALL HEIGHT REQUIREMENT. THE SYCAMORE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION APPEALED TWO OF THOSE APPROVALS. ONE IS FOR THE REAR SETBACK AND THE OTHER IS FOR THE BUILDING HEIGHT. THOSE CAME TO THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER BY REFERRAL FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER EVALUATED THOSE APPROVALS AND DETERMINED THAT THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINER SHOULD BE REVERSED BUT THE VARIANCES SHOULD BE DENIED. THE TEST FOR VARIANCE REQUIRES THERE BE A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE APPLICABLE TO THE PROPERTY THAT JUSTIFIES THE VARIANCE. IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES POINTED TO BY THE PROPERTY OWNER INCLUDED TOP AUGRUFY. AND THEY IDENTIFIED THE SLOPE WAS NOT SIGNIFICANT AND IT WAS ESSENTIALLY A SQUARE PROPERTY THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY IRREGULARITIES. IT DIDN'T JUSTIFY A VARIANCE OF 15 TO THE HEIGHT OR A VARIANCE OF 15. ESSENTIALLY, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WHICH TRIGGERS THE NEIGHBORHOOD EDGE REQUIREMENTS IN THE IDO. AND LIMITS THE BUILDING HEIGHT TO 30 FEET. THEY'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE TO THAT TO ALLOW A 15-FOOT VARIANCE TO ALLOW A TALLER BUILDING AND A VARIANCE TO THE SETBACK THAT ALLOWS THEM TO PLACE AN ACCESSORY BUILDING AGAINST THE PROPERTY LINE. BECAUSE THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER FOUND THAT THE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES WAS NOT THERE OR DID NOT JUSTIFY THE VARIANCES, THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER IS RECOMMENDING THESE VARIANCES BE DENIED. AND THE EXAMINER BE REVERSED. >>COUN. BORREGO: SORRY, TURNED IT OFF. COUNCILOR BENTON, I SEE YOUR HAND. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WITH REGARD TO THE ONE ASPECT WHICH WAS THE ACCESSORY BUILDING, MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN CLARIFY THAT. AREN'T THOSE ALLOWED WITHIN NORMAL SETBACKS ANYWAY? OR IS THAT ONLY FOR RESIDENTIAL ACCESSORIES? >> THE IDO REQUIREMENT IN THIS INSTANCE WILL REQUIRE A HARD 15-FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK INTEREST THAT ZONE DISTRICT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S ACCESSORY. CRIME FAMILIAR WITH THE STANDARD YOU'RE REFERRING. IF ONE OF US DID AN ACCESSORY BUILDING AT HOME YOU CAN DO AT THE LOT LINE. THAT'S NOT THE CASE FOR THIS ZONE. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION AND FINDINGS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. YOU HAVE SEVERAL SECONDS. COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR DAVIS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE VOTE ON THESE ONE AT A TIME. COUNCILOR BENTON, THAT MOVE, IS FOR AC-21-6. >>COUN. BENTON: YES, I'LL HAVE THE SAME MOTION FOR SEVEN. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILORS, DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, THAT PASSES ON UNANIMOUS VOTE. WE'LL MOVE TO AC-21-7. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION AND THE FINDINGS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. YOU A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY QUESTIONSP FROM OTHER COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT THIS. ON THIS PARTICULAR LOT BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD EDGE APPLIES HERE, THEY'RE PROHIBITED FROM GETTING IT. IT'S BEEN FOUND THAT THEY NEEDED TO HAVE THE BUILDING UNDER 30 FEET. IT SEEMS TO ME, AND I REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT THIS WHEN WE VOTED ON IT WHENEVER THAT WAS. HOWEVER, NOW I CAN SEE THIS REALLY MIGHT HAVE THE OPPOSITE EFFECT ON SOME NEIGHBORHOODS. IF THEY'RE UNABLE TO BUILD WHAT THEY INTENDED FOR THIS, IT WAS AN OFFICE BUILDING WITH SOME RESIDENTIAL IN IT, THIS MIGHTING NOT BE ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE FOR THEM TO BUILD SOMETHING UNDER 30 FEET. THAT COULD POSSIBLY AND OVER TIME PROBABLY, CAUSE DISINVESTMENT. WITH WHICH, HAS THE OPPOSITE EFFECT THAT WAS INTENDED FOR ORDINANCES THAT WE'VE PASSED. ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT. I'M VOTING FOR IT. BUT I DO SO WITH A FEELING BAD ABOUT IT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DO SYMPATHYIZE WITH COUNCILOR GIBSON'S STATEMENT AND THE APPLICANT. IT'S AN UNUSUAL PROJECT, THERE'S GOOD THINGS ABOUT IT. ON THESE KIND OF CALLS WE HAVE TO GO BY THE BOOK. THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHEN WE DO THE COMMUNITY PLANNING AREA ASSESSMENT FOR THIS AREA WHENEVER THAT OCCURS. I'M SORRY TO REPORT THAT PROCESS HAS BEEN DELAYED. THAT'S WHY WE NEED ANNUAL UPDATES AND PEOPLE COMPLAIN THAT WE HAVE ANNUAL UPDATES, BUT THAT'S WHY WE NEED THEM TO DEAL WITH THESE PROJECTS THAT JUST DON'T FIT WITHIN THE ZONING REGULATIONS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR BASSAN, YOUR HAND IS STILL UP. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >>COUN. BASSAN: I HAVE A COMMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: GO AHEAD. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WANT TO BE SURE FOR THE PUBLIC WATCHING, IT'S EASY TO SEE ON SUCH IMPORTANT ISSUES LIKE THIS WHERE IT'S AN APPEAL PEOPLE PROBABLY ARE WATCHING SAYING, WHAT THE HECK HOWCOME THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THIS SO FAST? I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO SAY EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WE HAVE COMPLETE PACKETS GIVEN TO US. I THOROUGHLY REVIEW THEM AND WE GET BRIEFED ON IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOR THE PUBLIC WATCHING THEY KNOW WE'RE NOT JUST DOING THIS ON A WHIM. WE DO INVEST TIME AS A COUNCIL AND GIVE REAL CONSIDERATION. BECAUSE OF THE QUASI JUDICIAL PROCESS IT MIGHT APPEAR THAT WE'VE NOT GIVING IT THE ATTENTION THAT SOME MAY WANT. WE'RE JUST DOING IT ON OUR OWN TIME ALONE SO WE CAN CREATE THIS PROPER ATMOSPHERE IN WHICH TO VOTE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, FOR CLARIFYING THAT, COUNCILOR BASSAN. I KNOW WE ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS ANY ISSUE RELATED TO OUR QUESTIONS WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL PRIOR TO OUR MEETINGS. THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. WITH THAT, I WILL ASK IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCILORS REGARDING THIS ITEM BEFORE WE VOTE. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS IN THE QUEUE. WITH THAT, WE WILL TURN TO MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. WINDOWS ON IT. THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORIC CHARACTER WITH THE IDO AND LANDMARKS COMMISSION. THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION RECOMMENDED AND REQUIRED AS PART OF APPROVAL THAT FINISHES ON THE FRONT PORCH BE RESTORED TO HISTORIC FEATURES TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY DETERMINED THAT THE HISTORIC APPEARANCE OF THE FRONT PORCH WAS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTING FACTOR OF THE HOUSE. THE PROPERTY OWNER APPEALED THAT DECISION OF THE LANDMARKS DECISION LARGELY IN OBJECTION TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF UPDATING THE PORCH AND CHANGING THE WINDOWS. THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER REVIEWED THAT AND DETERMINED THAT IT SHOULD BE AFFIRMED AND THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE OVERALL CHANGES SHOULD BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME CHANGES TO MAKE IT MORE CONSISTENT WITH ITS TRADITIONAL HISTORIC CHARACTER. AS WITH THE LAST APPEAL, YOU WON'T HEAR FROM THE PARTIES TONIGHT. YOU'RE CONSIDERING ONLY TO ACCEPT OR REJECT THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THOSE. IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THIS CAN BE SCHEDULED FOR A FULL HEARING AT LATER TIME. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR GIBSON, DO YOU HAVE AQUESTION? >>COUN. GIBS: NO, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION AND FINDINGS. >>COUN. RREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. LL SECOND THAT. ARE THERE ANY OTH QUESTIONS OF COUNCILORS? >>COUN. BENTON: MADA PRIDENT, IF I MAY? >>COUN. BORREGO: YES, COUNCIL BENTON. >>COUNBENTON: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF CNCILOR GIBSON AND WHOEVER SONDED THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO ADD ONE PROVISION TO THE MOTION? AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE LANDMARKS COMMISSIONKAYED THE REPLACEMENT OFNL THE FRT-FACING WINDOWS ON THE BUILDING. SO, THEY HAD ALR APPROVED PA OF THE BUILDINGN DIFFERENCE TO THE OWNER'S MAKE OR WT IT'S GOING TO CO TO COECT THE MISTAKE, WERE GOING ALLOW THE OWNER TO KP T VINYL WINDOWSN T SIDES THAT DO NO CE THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY I THINK AT I WANTEDO ADD, IF IT'S ALL GHT,OULD BE TO REQUIRE THAT ALL OF THEINWS FACING BOTHNO AND LEAD TBE REPLACED ANDUBSTANTIALLY MCH THE WINDOWSHAT RE REMOVED. >>COUN. BORRO: COUNCILOR GIBSON, GO AHEAD. COUN. GIBSON: I'M FINEITH THAT. AS I RECALL, THEY PUT A SIX-FOOT FENCE. I REMEMBER SEWHERE THAT OW OR WIOWS, IHINK THERE'S ONEWINDOW, WAS SLL VISI ISHAT RRECT? >>COUN. BENTON: I INK HE CAN SWER AT. BUT ORIGINAL COMPLAINT OM ANOTHER NGHBOR WASH WA THAT WAS BLT THAT WAS NOT COMPLAIN THERE'S A LOT O BACK AD FORTH IN TRECORD. THE FRONTORCH WAS A BIG DEAL. BUT TH BE RESTOD THE HIORIC APPEARANCE. AND MR. MELENDZ,AS THE REACEMENT OF THE FNT WINWS PA OF THE RECOMMENDATION >> MAD PRESIDT,OUILOR BENTON YES. THERE'S SIIFICT DISCUSON, I W SAY, AS PARTF THE APAL ABOUT WICH WDOW THE LANDMARKS DECION WLDE REPLACED THEY SOME WORKO EVALUATE A COLE DRENT STAMENTROM THLANDMAS CMISSION A THE FACTS. ULTITELY,ROPOSING A PPLEMENT IN THE COMMSIONS FIGS ANDECOMMENDATIONS WI A RTAMENTFHIS O PAICULAR. AS WELL AS SEOTHERS. TH RESPECT TO THE WINDOW THE STATENTS TH BECAUSE THE FRTACADEF T DWELLINGS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DENING CHACTERISTIC, ON THE THREE FRONT-FACING WINDOWS SHALLE REAC WITH YOUR AMENDMENT THE THREE FRONT-CIINDOWS ARE INGRATED INTO TH PORCH I THE WATHE HOU FACES T ROAD. WITH YOUR ENENT,HE AMENENT WOULDE T THE FIING IN RECOMMEATN SIX ON PAGE 22 TO REPLACE THEANGUAGE LIMITING THAREQUIREMENT TO ONLY THE THREERON TO SA A THE WINDOWSHALLEEPLACED TO MATCH. INCLU TWO ADDIONAL WIOWS THAT FE LEAD >>UN. BS: IF I? >>COUNBORREGO: G AHEAD, PLSE. >>COUNGION: WOULD NEE T CH T MOTN TO ACCEPT THE COMMENDAONS A ADOPT DIFFEREN NDIN. OR IIT JUST AMENDIHEIRST TION? >>ADAM PRESENT, COUNCIL GIBSON, IT WOU BE AN AND TO YOUR MOTION THA YOU'RE ACCEING THE RECOMMENDATIO AND FINDGS. AN ACCEPTING THAT NBER SIX IS AMENDED SO THE I APPLI TO ALL STETACINGWINDOW COUN. GIBS: THA'S FINE WH ME. >>COUN. BORREG I ACCEP THAT, AS WELL. WE HAVEN MEND MOTION AND A SECO. UNCIBASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANK YOU, MADAM PRESENT. I WANT TO MKE SUREO SAY THAT BEAUTIFUL. PPERTY LOOKS I THINK WH THE N PPERTY OWNER OR WHA TH HE DONE LOOKS FALOUS. BUT THAT' NOT WT WE' HERE TO DISCUSS. THAT'S ANOTHE IMPORTANT DIFFERENTIATION ME CLEAR TO THE PUBL. WITH HISTORICAL MONUMEN AND BUDINGS THAT WE HAV THEY'RE PART OF SOMEING THAT'S OVERSEEN BY T NDMARKS COISSION. IMAGINE WITH PURCHASE OF Y O TSE PROPERTIES IT' DE CLEAR THA THE'STAIN RULEAND BOUNDARIES A EXPECTIONSOR THAT ILNG. CAN'T JUSHAVEOMPLETE DISREGARD FOR THOSERULE ALOUGH I THINK IT LKS GREAT, ALSO ARECIATE SOME OF THE HISTICAL NEED TO TRU PRESERVE TCHARACTER. I KNOW THAT IT PAINS ME WITH MY CONSTRUCTION BKGUND TO IMAGINE THE COST THAT WILBE ENDURED TO MAKE THESECHANGES. T HAVE TO FOLLOW RULES, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE THERE THAT'SHY TRE'S VARIANS AND WEAVE THE PROCESSE DO. WE MAKE TOO MA EXCEPTIONS, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO SE THAT. I AM GOING TO SPORT THE MOTION THAT IS BEING PRESENTED, EVEN THOUGH INOW IT' PROBAY ING TO BE A VERY PAINFUL REITY FOR THE HOMEOWR. CO. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR . >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. CAN WE ACTUALL VOTE ON TH AS TWO SEPARATE ISSUES? WHAT WE HAVE I FRONTFS I WHAT H BE DISCUED AT DRV. AND MADE SOME RECOMMENDATNS BEFORE US. AND WE HAVE ANMENDMENT FROM COUNCILOR BENTON TO ADD THE ADTIONAL ONES. CAN WE VOTE ON THOSE SEPATE? THE AMENDNT AND THEN THE ORIGINAL CONSIDERATION? >> MAM PRESIDENT,OUNCILOR PEÑA, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO TAKE THEM UP SEPARATELY. THE OE ISSUE YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS TO DISPOSE OF THE APPEAL. THEY MAD A RECOMMENDATION OF HOW IT SHOULD BE DISPOS OF. THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE FINAL DECISION MAKER. IF -- U'RE TASK IS TO ACCEPT OR REJECT THEECOMMENDATION AND YOU CAN DO THAT AS IT'S SUBMITTED OR MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AS PART OF YOUR VOTE. IT'S ONE VOTE FOR THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST BASED ON E ADDED AMENDMENT, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT. I DO SUPPORT IT AS IT CAME FROM DRV. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, THE VOTE THAT WE ARE HAVING ON FLOOR IS TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION AND FINDINGS. HOWEVER WE'RE AMENDING ONE OF THE FINDINGS TO INCLUDE ALL THE WINDOWS RATHER THAN JUST THE FRONT WINDOWS. IS THAT CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, NOT ALL OF THE WINDOWS. THERE'S FOUR SIDES OF THE DWELLING. TWO SIDES OF THAT DWELLING FACE THE STREET. ONLY THE WINDOWS THAT FACE THE STREET ARE PART OF THIS. FOR ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION, THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION DID INCLUDE LANGUAGE IN THEIR FINAL DECISION SUGGESTING THAT ALL OF THE WINDOWS SHOULD BE REPLACED TO THE EXTENT FEASIBLE. I MAY BE PARAPHRASING. THAT WAS PART OF THE LANGUAGE THAT CAME DOWN FROM THE LANDMARKS DIVISION. THERE WAS ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OF REPLACING THE WINDOWS FACING ARNO. I THINK BY REQUIRING ALL OF THE WINDOWS TO BE REPLACED ON BOTH STREET FRONTS THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION. >>COUN. BORREGO: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE'RE SAYING ALL OF THE WINDOWS THAT ARE FACING THE STREET FRONT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT'S CORRECT. THOSE TWO STREET FRONTS ARE ARNO AND LEAD. >>COUN. BORREGO: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR IN THE RECORD SO WHEN WE TAKE THE VOTE WE KNOW AS ME MOVE FORWARD AND SO THE LANDOWNER KNOWS WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON. OKAY, WITH THAT COUNCILOR BASSAN DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? >>COUN. BASSAN: ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THIS. I'VE NEVER GONE TO SOMETHING WHERE WE POTENTIALLY ACCEPT RECOMMENDATIONS AND ADOPT DIFFERENT FINDINGS. THAT'S SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT. I KNOW THE MOTION AND I UNDERSTAND AND HEARD THAT ADOPT THE FINDINGS WITHIN AN AMENDMENT. THAT'S ONE OF THE THREE OPTIONS THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH. HOW DO WE HAVE FINDINGS WITH AN AMENDMENT VERSUS ADOPT A DIFFERENT FINDING? IS THAT IF WE CHANGE IT ALL UP? IF YOU CAN CLARIFY ON HOW THAT DIFFERS? >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION IS THAT I THINK WITH RESPECT TO THE WINDOW STANDARD, YOU'RE ACTUALLY IMPOSING A REQUIREMENT MORE THAN A FINDING. SO THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION DID ISSUE CONDITIONS WITH RESPECT TO APPROVAL. THIS AMENDS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT'S REQUIRED. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN JUST A MERE FINDING THAT IS A CONCLUSION BASED ON FACTS. WITH RESPECT TO COUNCILOR BASSAN'S SPECIFIC INQUIRY, YOU THE FINAL DECISION MAKER IN THESE APPEALS. THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER MAKES THE RECOMMENDATION, SO LONG AT THIS PARTICULAR HEARING THE THE DISPOSITION YOU MAKE SO LONG AS IT'S SUPPORTED BY THE RECORD AND CONSISTENT WITH THE STANDARD THAT YOU'RE REVIEWING, YOU HAVE LEAVE TO COMPLETELY CHANGE THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER'S FINDINGS OR TO AMEND THEM. THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS CASE. I RECOGNIZE IT'S NOT COMMON, BUT IT IS NOT UNPRECEDENTED. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, THAT WAS HELPFUL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. ALTHOUGH IT IS IN SOME OF THE RECOMMEND ACTION FROM THE LANDMARK FOLKS, ARE THERE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS? I GUESS MY POINT IS THAT A COUNCILOR AND THIS ISN'T IN REGARD TO COUNCILOR BENTON, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT. A COUNCILOR CAN ADD TO WHAT WAS SENT DOWN FROM THE DRB? ALL THE WORK OF READING THIS INFORMATION OVER, WE'RE CONSIDERING WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US AND A COUNCILOR CHANGES IT SUBSTANTIALLY WHAT WAS IN FRONT OF US. AND WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT ALTOGETHER? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE AN INTERESTING -- IT JUST SEEMS IF WE'RE GOING TO ASK, WE SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF PROCESS. >>COUN. BENTON: MAY I MAKE A POINT OF ORDER WITH THIS DISCUSSION? >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BENTON, GO AHEAD. >>COUN. BENTON: I ASKED PERMISSION FROM THE MAKERS OF THE MOTION AND THE SECONDER OF THE MOTION TO AMEND THEIR MOTION. WHAT THAT AMENDMENT WAS WASN'T SOME WHIM. IT'S FROM THE ORIGINAL HEARING FROM THE LANDMARK'S COMMISSION. THIS IS TOTALLY IN ORDER. AS MR. MELENDREZ STATED, THIS IS ONE OF THE THREE OPTIONS OF STANDARD LANGUAGE LAID OUT FOR US WHEN THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION. THIS IS ONE OF THEM THAT WE MAY AMEND THE LANGUAGE. ALL I DID WAS BRING BACK A SMALL PART OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION LANGUAGE. I THINK THEY WERE VERY GENEROUS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, IF YOU LOOK AT THE RECORD, THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS NOT REQUIRED TO USE THE TYPE OF SIDING THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED. THEY'RE ALLOWING HIM TO KEEP THAT ON. I THINK THEY MADE OTHER ACCOMMODATIONS. THERE'S NOTHING UNTOWARD OR ANYTHING OUT OF PLACE WITH WHAT IS BEFORE US RIGHT NOW. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, IF I MAY AS WELL, JUST FOR PURPOSE OF CLARIFICATION, THE DRB DIDN'T HAVE ANY INVOLVEMENT WITH THIS PARTICULAR MATTER. IT WAS EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION. THAT'S THE ONLY BOARD WHOSE DECISION WE'RE CONSIDERING. I THINK IT'S NOT COMMON THAT THE TYPE OF MOTION THAT THE COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING IS NOT COMMON. IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME. THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION MADE TWO STATEMENTS THE FIRST WAS THAT EXISTING REPLACEMENT WINDOWS DO NOT MEET DESIGN GUIDELINES AS FAR AS MATERIAL OR MUTTON CONFIGURATION. HOWEVER, THE THREE WINDOWS FACING THE STREET NEED TO BE REPLACED WITH THE WINDOWS WITH THE FOUR GLASS DIVIDES. THAT WAS THE FINDING OF THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION. THEY WENT ON TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT SAYS ALL WINDOWS SHALL BE REPLACED WITH METAL CLAD WINDOWS WITH THE ORIGINAL FOUR CLASS DIVIDES. THE LUHO WAS TRYING TO GLEAN A SINGLE UNDERSTANDING OUT OF THE TWO STATEMENTS. SO, I THINK IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE THAT THE COUNCIL ALSO HAS DISCRETION TO WEIGH IN ON THAT INTERPRETATION WITH THE INTENT OF LANDMARKS. THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THE LANDMARKS ONLY INTENDED WITH ARNO. BUT IT'S WITHIN REASON TO INCLUDE THE WINDOWS FACING THE FRONTAGE SHOULD BE IN PLACE. THE COUNCIL DOES HAVE THAT DISCRETION TO SUBSTITUTE JUDGMENT EVEN ON A LIMITED QUESTION LIKE THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHEN YOU PURCHASE A HISTORIC PROPERTY AND THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS TO MEET STATE OR LOCAL ELIGIBILITY FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND THAT DESIGNATION THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHEN YOU MAKE THOSE CHANGES YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE SAME APPEARANCE, OR AT LEAST THE SAME CHARACTER THAT YOU FIND WHEN YOU PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY. I THINK THE FINDINGS ARE HIGHLY APPROPRIATE IN THE FACT THAT WE COULD HAVE CHANGED ALL OF THE WINDOWS OUT. BUT WE'RE ONLY CHANGING A PORTION OF THEM. I THINK IT'S STILL HIGHLY APPROPRIATE THAT WHEN PURCHASING PROPERTIES IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING INTO. COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: I WOULD ASK THAT HE REPEATS THE MOTION THAT WE'RE VOTING ON RIGHT NOW SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. LET ME PULL UP MY NOTES. THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION AND FINDINGS WITH AN AMENDMENT TO THE RECOMMENDATION/CONDITION NUMBER SIX SUCH THAT ALL OF THE WINDOWS FACING ARNO AND LEAD NEED TO BE REPLACED SUBSTANTIALLY MATCH THE DESIGN CONFIGURATION AND MUTTON OF THE ORIGINAL WINDOW THAT WERE REPLACED. THAT IS IN PLACE OF THE REQUIREMENT THAT ONLY THREE WINDOWS BE REPLACED. IT WILL BE ALL FACING ARNO AND LEAD. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, I DON'T SEE ANY ADDITIONAL HANDS UP IN THE QUEUE. WHY WILL TURN TO MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> MOTION PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT MOTION PASSES ON AN 8-1. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT APPEAL. THAT IS ITEM D, WHICH IS AC-21-10. WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS APPEAL? >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. AC-21-10 IS AN APPEAL OF A VARIANCE THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINER. THE SUBJECT SITED IN THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS AT 2311 HOLLYWOOD AVENUE. THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THAT LOCATION REQUESTED A VARIANCE TO THE FRONT AND REAR YARD SETBACK. THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE TEN FEET FRONT AND TEN FEET BACK. THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINE APPROVED A VARIANCE OF FIVE FEET TO EACH. SUCH THAT THIS WOULD BE FIVE FEET IN THE FRONT AND BACK. THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER APPEALED THAT TO CITY COUNCIL. THE NEIGHBORS APPEAL WAS LIMITED TO THE FRONT YARD. DID NOT APPEAL THE REAR YARD SETBACK. THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARGUES THAT THE VARIANCE WILL INCREASE CONGESTION ON THE BLOCK AND PERMIT VISIBILITY HOMES ACROSS THE STREET. HOLLYWOOD IS A NARROW STREET. IT'S ONLY BETWEEN 13 AND 15 FEET WIDE WHICH IS EXTREMELY NARROW. THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINE APPROVED THESE VARIANCES AFTER DETERMINING THAT THE LOT WAS UNIQUELY SMALL. THE LOT IS ABOUT 3100 SQUARE FEET IN AREA AND THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IN THAT ZONE DISTRICT IS 3500 SQUARE FEET. IT'S TECHNICALLY NON-CONFORMING WITH RESPECT TO MINIMUM LOT SIZE. THAT DECISION WAS APPEALED, THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER RECOMMENDS THAT IT BE AFFIRMED BASED ON THE UNIQUENESS OF SMALL LOT SIZE. THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOT GOING TO HEAR FROM THE PARTIES TONIGHT. YOU'RE CONSIDERING WHETHER TO ACCEPT OR REJECT THE RECOMMENDATION. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER FROM THE RECORD. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IN THE RECORD THERE WAS A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE THAT WAS CITED BY THE APPLICANT FOR THE VARIANCE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT A PLAN WAS SUBMITTED BUT NOT A PLAN WITH THE POSITION OF THE STRUCTURE ON IT. IS THAT CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON YES. THE RECORD HAS A SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY AND A FLOOR PLAN WITH WHAT WAS DESCRIBED AS A SINGLE-FAMILY FIRST FLOOR FLOOR PLAN OF 1100 SQUARE FEET. IT DOES NOT DEPICT HOW THAT WOULD SIT ON THE LOT. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE WHICH I THINK THIS APPEAL AND THE APPLICATION HAVE VERY MUCH TO DEAL WITH CONTEXT OF THAT STREET WHICH AS YOU SAY IS A VERY NARROW STREET. IT'S AN OLD TOWN LANE THAT GOES WEST FROM THE CENTER OF OLD TOWN OFF OF RIO GRANDE. IT IS REALLY UNUSUAL. I BELIEVE FROM LOOKING AT THE MAP AND THE LOTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET ARE DEEPER AND ALLOW MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR THEIR USE THERE'S NOT MANY EMPTY LOTS LEFT. THERE'S DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION. THE LOTS ON THE NORTH SIDE ARE SHALLOW. THEY'RE ONLY 40 FEET DEEP. IT MAKES HAD HARD TO FIT A STRUCTURE ON THERE. I WOULD LIKE THE GHE TO LOOK AT THIS AGAIN. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FOR A REMAND TO THE DHE. AND ASK THAT THE DHE EVALUATE AND MAKE A FINDING AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES PROPOSED APPLY GENERALLY TO THE OTHER PROPERTY IN THE SAME ZONE DISTRICT AND VICINITY. >> THAT PASSES 9-0. >>COUN. BORREGO: THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC HEARING. AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 13. THIS IS APPROVALS. THIS IS O-38 SELECTION OF THE DIRECTOR OF COUNCIL SERVICES. I MOVE CONFIRMATION OF CHRIS MELENDREZ. WE NEED TWO-THIRDS OF COUNCILORS FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. I SEE COUNCILOR SENA'S HAND FOR A SECOND. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE CHRIS FOR BEING OUR NEW DIRECTOR OF COUNCIL SERVICES. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCILORS WHO WORKED WITH ME ON THE SELECTION COMMITTEE FOR WORKING TOGETHER AND DEVOTING OUR TIME IN PERSON TO COME TO THIS CONCLUSION. MR. MELENDREZ, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY? >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, IT'S NOTHING SHORT OF AN HONOR TO SERVE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES. NOT LEAST OF WHICH IS THE LEGAL CAPACITY. YOU HAVE AN AMAZING STAFF THAT I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH. I KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL IS COMMITTED TO THE BETTERMENT OF THIS CITY AND I'M PASSIONATE TO HELP YOU ACCOMPLISH THOSE GOALS. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TRUST AND I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING TO WORK, BUT SINCE I'VE BEEN YOUR ACTING DIRECTOR I'LL SAY CONTINUING WORK IN THIS SEAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. ANY COUNCILORS? WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND CONTINUING THAT WORK. COUNCILORS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A BREAK FOR A LITTLE WHILE? OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO THROUGH AND -- I SEE COUNCILOR JONES SHAKING HER HEAD NO. IT LOOKS LIKE COUNCILOR DAVIS WANTS TO CONTINUE. I AM HAPPY TO CONTINUE. I JUST THOUGHT I'D ASK THE COUNCIL. WE'LL MOVE TO FINAL ACTIONS. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS, WE DEFERRED ITEM A. COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR SENA, COUNCILOR PEÑA AND COUNCILOR BENTON. WHO WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS? >>COUN. DAVIS: IF I MAY CONFER WITH MY CO-SPONSORS. I THINK THERE'S ADDITIONAL ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE WORKED OUT WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION. I KNOW WE HAVE MEETINGS WITH THEM. COUNCILOR SENA IS OUR LEAD SPONSOR. I ASK IF SHE'S OKAY WITH A DEFERRAL FOR TWO WEEK AND DO A FINAL ACTION ON THE 16th. I SEE HER NODDING HER HEAD. IF COUNCILOR BENTON AGREES OR DOESN'T OBJECT. HE'S NODDING. I MAKE THAT MOTION TO DEFER UNTIL AUGUST 16th. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR PEÑA? OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION, COUNCILOR DAVIS. I NEED A SECOND. I SEE COUNCILOR BENTON OFFERING A SECOND. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM PRESIDENT, IF I COULD JUST BRIEFLY. JUST TO GET THIS IN BEFORE WE MOVE ON THIS. I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FOR A DEFERRAL. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN GET A PRESENTATION EITHER BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING OR AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT A PRESENTATION BE PREPARED BY THE ADMINISTRATION AS TO EXACTLY HOW THEY SEE US PROCEEDING WITH THIS PROGRAM. SPECIFICALLY, WITH REGARD TO TRANSIT SAFETY AND THAT EVALUATION SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WERE RAISED IN THE REPORT THAT THEY ADDRESS THOSE AS HOW THEY SEE THOSE CHALLENGES GOING FORWARD. STILL A STRONG SUPPORTER OF US DOING THIS PILOT, BUT I THINK WE REALLY WANT TO ENSURE EVERYONE'S SAFETY IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE WANT TO PROMOTE OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM. ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE TRANSIT-DEPENDENT. ALL THE MORE NEED FOR A SENSE OF SECURITY WHEN THEY'RE RIDING THE BUS OR WAITING FOR THE BUS. I ADD THAT AS REQUEST FOR THE ADMINISTRATION PRIOR TO US HEARING THIS IN TWO WEEKS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. AS ONE OF THE SPONSORS I APPRECIATE YOUR -- I SEE YOU'RE NOT ONE OF THE SPONSORS. I THOUGHT YOU WERE ONE OF THE SPONSORS. I APPRECIATE YOUR DIRECTION. I GUESS THE SPONSORS AGREE TO THAT? I HAVE ONLY THREE SPONSORS LISTED. I'M SORRY. I'M READING THE NEXT ONE. I THOUGHT YOU WERE ONE OF THE SPONSORS. IT'S CONFUSING ME ON THAT ONE. THANK YOU FOR THAT DIRECTION. I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. WITH THAT, I GUESS WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0 FOR THE DEFERRAL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MS. ORTEGA. YOU DO A GREAT JOB. I GUESS I NEED TO WEAR MY GLASSES MORE. I'M READING VERY TINY PRINT. I'D READING THE NEXT ITEM WHICH IS -- ITEM E. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE NOISE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE MUFFLERS GOING BY. ITEM E IS R-178. THAT IS COUNCILOR SENA, COUNCILOR PEÑA AND COUNCILOR DAVIS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, WE NEED TO GO BACK TO ITEM D. >>COUN. BORREGO: THAT'S WHY I SAID, I THINK I NEED MY GLASSES. OKAY, I WAS -- COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR SENA, COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, THESE ALL GO TOGETHER. I MAKE A REQUEST FOR A DEFERRAL UNTIL AUGUST 16th. >>COUN. JONES: SECOND. >>COUN. BORREGO: I GUESS THAT WAS A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I DON'T SEE ANY. VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0 ON THE DEFERRAL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MS. ORTEGA. NOW, WE'LL MOVE TO R-178. COUNCILOR SENA >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> THAT PASSES 8-0. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM I, WHICH IS COUNCILOR HARRIS AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. R-160. COUNCILOR BASSAN, OR COUNCILOR HARRIS? WOULD ONE OF YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS? >>COUN. HARRIS: I'D LIKE COUNCILOR BASSAN BECAUSE I WANT HER TO TAKE OVER THE TASK FORCE BECAUSE I'M STEPPING AWAY. I'D LIKE HER TO DRIVE THE BUS FROM NOW ON. TAKE IT AWAY. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THAT WAS AN UNINTENTIONAL BUS JOKE. THIS IS ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BALLOON LANDING TASK FORCE. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M HAPPY TO GIVE A SUMMARY OF THIS. I ALSO KNOW THAT PAUL SMITH IS HERE. AND HE IS SOMEONE THAT IS VERY IN TUNE AND ON THE PROCESS TASK FORCE. I WOULD NOT MIND IF HE GAVE US AN UPDATE FIRST AND A SUMMARY OF WHAT HIS KNOWLEDGE IS BEFORE WE GO FURTHER. >>COUN. BORREGO: MR. SMITH. I DON'T SEE YOU. THERE YOU ARE. HELLO, HOW ARE YOU? VERY NICE TO SEE YOU. >> I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THIS. I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNCILOR HARRIS FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE TO THE FOREFRONT AND THANK COUNCILOR BASSAN FOR TAKING OVER HIS MANTLE ON THIS. LANDING SITES IS SOMETHING THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO ALL BALLOONISTS. AS THE CITY PROGRESSES AND GROWS AND DEVELOPS IT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT TO FLY FROM BALLOON FIESTA PARK. WE'VE LOOKED AT SEVERAL OPTIONS TO TRY TO PRESERVE THE VIABILITY OF THE PARK FOR THE FUTURE. WE LOOKED AT REHABBING OR RETRO FITTING OLD PROPERTIES OR TRYING TO BUY NEW PROPERTIES. OR TRYING TO FIND ONE LARGE PROPERTY THAT SERVES FOR BALLOONS DURING THE FIESTA AND THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE YEAR. THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE -- THERE'S SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TASK FORCE. OF COURSE, THE BIG QUESTION IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE HOW TO FUND IT. THERE WAS RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TASK FORCE BEFORE WE HAD TO QUIT MEETING BECAUSE OF COVID REASONS. I URGE YOU TO PASS THE RECOMMENDATION -- OR ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TASK FORCE AND WE CAN GO ON TO THE NEXT JOB OF TRYING TO FIND FUNDING. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. SMITH. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. SMITH FROM THE COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. SMITH. BE WELL. WE'LL MOVE BACK TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND GIVING THAT UPDATE. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE HAD SEVERAL CONSTITUENTS REACH OUT ABOUT, WE'RE NOT SAYING WE ARE BUYING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'RE BUYING ANYTHING IN THE NEXT YEAR. THIS TASK FORCE HAS COME UP AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME COMING UP WITH SEVERAL IDEA THAT RANGE FROM COMMUNITY COORDINATION AND COOPERATION ON PRIVATE LAND TO PEOPLE WANTING TO GET INVOLVED AND SAY THEY ARE WILLING TO HAVE A BALLOON LAND ON THEIR PROPERTY IF IT'S A SAFE PROPERTY THEY CAN PUT WHITE SHEETS OUT IN THE SHAPE OF AN X. OR MAYBE COME UP WITH AN APP WHERE WE CAN HAVE PILOTS COME IN AND LOOK ON AN APP WHERE THE SAFE PLACES TO LAND ARE. AND WE CAN GO TO EXTREME BECAUSE THERE'S THE THINGS IN BETWEEN OF MODIFYING PARKING LOTS OR BUYING MEDIUM PROPERTIES. ALL THE WAY OF A $70 MILLION IDEA OF BUYING A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND CHANGING IT UP SO IT CAN BE USED AS LANDING SITE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE THIS TASK FORCE OPINION AND COME OUT SAYING THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCED , THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO REALLY WANT TO HELP ALBUQUERQUE OUT. ALSO, WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO ALLOW BALLOON FIESTA TO CONTINUE THRIVING WHILE NOT CONTINUING TO LIMIT IT. I WANT EVERYONE OUT IN THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THIS IS NOT US SAYING WE'RE USING ALL THIS MONEY. BUT WE'RE COMING UP WITH IDEAS. WE'RE THINKING SO WE CAN MAKE OUR NEXT MOVE ON HOW BEST TO MOVE FORWARD. THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE BALLOON TASK FORCE TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL TONIGHT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY QUESTIONS OF COUNCILOR BASSAN? I DO HAVE A COMMENT. I SEE THAT MR. SMITH IS STILL ONLINE. I KNOW THAT SINCE I WORKED ON THE TASK FORCE PRIOR TO COUNCILOR BASSAN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NORTHWEST MESA AS WELL. I'M SURE OTHER COUNCILORS HAVE COMMENTS REGARDING THEIR PARTICULAR AREAS OF TOWN. I SEE THOSE BALLOONS OVER MY HOUSE ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS EVEN NOT DURING BALLOON FIESTA. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY, MR. SMITH, AND ENCOURAGE THE TASK FORCE TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. OKAY, WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, IF WE HAVE NO OTHER COMMENTS WHICH I DON'T SEE ANY, WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> PASSES 9-0. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND CONGRATULATIONS, COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR HARRIS. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM J. SEEING A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY NOW. COUNCILOR PEÑA, R-163. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IT'S DECLARING THE CITY COUNCIL SUPPORT OF THE ROUTE 66 CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION AND BEGIN THE PLANNING PROCESS FOR THE CELEBRATION EVENT IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I MOVE A DUE PASS. JUST TO BE BRIEF THIS IS THE ACOMPANYING LEGISLATION TO THE BUDGET. WE BUDGETED $300,000 TO PUT TOGETHER A CELEBRATION. IT WILL BE THE 100th YEAR OF THE ROUTE. WE HAVE THE ONLY PART OF THE ROUTE THAT INTERSECTS WITH THE OLD CAMINO REAL. AND ROUTE 66 WHICH IS THE LONGEST URBAN STRETCH OF THE CORRIDOR. I LOOK FORWARD TO CELEBRATIONS LEADING UP TO AND THE CELEBRATION ITSELF. I URGE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. IT APPEARS THAT COUNCILOR SENA OFFERED A SECOND. I HAVE AS WELL. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MENTION THERE ARE SIX COUNCILORS THAT THEIR DISTRICTS TOUCH CENTRAL AVENUE. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL IN SOME WAY RELATED TO CENTRAL AVENUE. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM ANY OF THE COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE ANYONE WITH THEIR HAND UP. WE'LL GO TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: IF I CAN JUST CLOSE REAL QUICK. >>COUN. BORREGO: GO AHEAD. >>COUN. PEÑA: I URGE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT COUNCILORS HAVE SUPPORTED ROUTE 66. COUNCILOR BASSAN AND OTHER COUNCILORS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DO OR DON'T, BUT I KNOW THAT COUNCILOR BASSAN AS WELL. THANK YOU, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MS. ORTEGA. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM L. COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COUNCILOR BENTON. R-179. WOULD ONE OF YOU CARE TO DISCUSS THIS? >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL MOVE A DUE PASS FOR PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. WEAL HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR HARRIS, COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK COUNCILOR DAVIS CAN SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL. THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD THE LAST TIME THIS BILL CAME UP. THERE'S STILL SEEM TO BE LINGERING. I'M GOING TO MOVE A DEFERRAL AND REQUEST THAT THE AMENDMENT THAT WE HAD REQUESTED AND COUNCILOR DAVIS CAN ELABORATE ON THIS, BUT SPECIFIC AMENDMENT BE PREPARED DURING A TWO-WEEK DEFERRAL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. YOU HAVE A DEFERRAL, AND I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY WHAT YOU WERE INTENDING WITH THAT? >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL SPEAK TO IT. IT JUST HAS TO DO WITH POSSIBLE NEGOTIATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THE TIDBIT THAT WE UNDERSTAND HAVE AN OCCURRED AND HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT. I'LL ALSO DEFER TO COUNCILOR DAVIS TO COMMENT ON IT AS WELL. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I APPRECIATE COUNCILOR BENTON. MAYBE IF I CAN ASK THE ADMINISTRATION VERY BRIEFLY TO HELP US GET ON TRACK AND WE CAN DEFER THIS FOR TWO MORE WEEKS. IF THE ADMINISTRATION, I DON'T KNOW IF MS. NAIR IS AVAILABLE IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM? >> YES, I'M HERE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANKS FOR JOINING US. I THINK THERE'S BEEN CONCERNS RAISED AS COUNCILOR BENTON MENTIONED THERE'S OTHER CONVERSATIONS OR NEGOTIATIONS BEING HAD RELATED TO UNRELATED ACTIVITYS. WE PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT IT WAS FOCUSED ONLY ON THOSE ON-SITE ACTIVITIES OR THOSE RELATED ON-SITE. DO WE KNOW WHY THAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE ADMINISTRATION'S RECOMMENDATIONS OVER THE LAST MONTH? >> THE ADMINISTRATION WAS PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TID IN JUNE. WE WERE NOT HOLDING IT UP FOR ANY ANCILLARY DISCUSSIONS. WHEN WE HAVE AN OCCASION TO MEET WITH THE PRESIDENT AND VARIOUS HIGH LEVEL STAFF MEMBERS WE OFTEN DISCUSS MULTIPLE TOPICS. WE WERE PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD AND PRESENT IT IN JUNE. >>COUN. DAVIS: IF YOU CAN HELP US REMEMBER, I KNOW YOUR ROLE AS OUR DIRECTOR, YOU FELT THIS WAS IT. WE FELT WE WANTED TO KEEP THE NEGOTIATIONS ON TRACK AND ADDRESS THE LANGUAGE. SO WE CAN BRING THIS TO REALITY. I SUPPORT THE DEFERRAL FOR TWO WEEKS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANY OTHER COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE ANY. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 8-0 ON THE DEFERRAL FOR AUGUST 16th. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE TO MUTE THEMSELVES IF YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM M. COUNCILOR PEÑA, R-181. ESTABLISHING OUR FEDERAL PRIORITY. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: R-181 ESTABLISHING FEDERAL PRIORITY FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR 2021 TO THE COMMUNITY PROJECT PROGRAM FUNDS OF THE 117th CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES. I MOVE A DUE PASS AND I HAVE AN AMENDMENT. BEFORE I ASK TOM TO SPEAK, I THINK WE CAN HAVE THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL SECOND THAT VOTE. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN FOR THE SECOND. >>COUN. PEÑA: I HAVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE WHICH IS STRIKE THE ATTACHED TABLE TO THE RESOLUTION R12 AND INSERT IN LIEU OF THE TABLE ATTACHED TO THIS AMENDMENT. AND THEPLATION FOR THIS IS IT SEPARATES TO THE PROJECTS SUBMITTED FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL INTO TO A SEPARATE TABLE FOR THE REMAINING PROJECTS. THIS PROVIDES AN AN IMPROVED PRESENTATION FORM TO SUBMIT TO THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS DELEGATION. WITH THAT, I WOULD MOVE THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA, YOU A SECOND TO COUNCILOR SENA. ANY QUESTIONS TO AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE? I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL LET TOM EXPLAIN THE BILL AND I WILL CLOSE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WHAT IT IS ANY PRIORITIES WE NEED TO ADOPT THIS BE RESOLUTION. IN 20 WE ADOPTED FOR 2021 SOON AFTER WE ADOPTED IT CONGRESS BROUGHT BACK THEIR EARMARK PROGRAM. AT THAT POINT THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF COUNCIL STAFF AND NINE OR TEN PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENT WORKED HARD FOR A THREE MONTH PERIOD TO IDENTIFY EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE REQUESTING. IT IS A DIFFERENT PROGRAM THAN PREVIOUS YEARS. IN PREVIOUS YEARS THEY SUSPENDED BECAUSE OF A LOT OF ISSUES WITH MISAPPROPRIATIONS. IF THEY ADOPT IT IT'S SIMILAR TO RULES THEY HAVE WITH GRANTS. IT'S FIGURING OUT WHICH BOND PRIORITY THE CITY CAN OFFER AND WHICH NEEDS THE CITY HAD TO FIT INTO THESE PROGRAMS. THAT WAS DETERMINED. OFTENTIMES WE HAVE TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION AS THE FINAL RULES WERE SET. OVERALL THE CITY SUBMITTED $30 MILLION REQUEST. AND THE NEW MEXICO DELEGATION FORWARDED $17 MILLION TO FULL FUNDING CONSIDERATION BY THE WHOLE CONGRESS. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S WHAT WE WILL GET. IT'S FOR CONSIDERATION IN THE BILL. WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE RECEIVED MORE BUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE IN THE HOUSE AT THE TIME THEY PASSED THEIR VERSION OF THE BILL WE WERE UNABLE TO GET SOME OF THE PROJECTS PUT INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. OF COURSE, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE NEXT YEAR. WE JUST GO AHEAD AND WE ADOPT THAT LIST. A LIST OF PROJECTS IS IN THE TABLE. THERE'S A LIST OF PROJECTS SUBMITTED AND MOVED FORWARD BY OUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: NOT A QUESTION, JUST A COMMENT TO REALLY THANK JOHN AND TOM AND ALL OF THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR DILIGENT WORK ON THIS. I THINK THAT AS HE MENTIONED WE WERE POWERING THROUGH. WE ALSO EXPERIENCED A VACANCY AND FULFILLMENT OF A CONGRESSIONAL SEAT IN THE PROCESS. REALLY THANKING THE STAFF FOR WORKING ON THE FLY AND STAYING ON TOP OF ALL OF US TO ADVOCATE FOR THESE PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY'RE SO CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT. WE MAY NOT GET ALL OF THEM BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO ADVOCATE FOR THEM. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I ALSO WANT TO THANK HIM FOR STAYING ON TOP OF ALL OF THIS AND WORKING WITH THE STAFF. I KNOW THAT I RECEIVED A NUMBER OF CALLS FROM YOU REGARDING SOME OF THE PROJECTS IN MY DISTRICT WHICH WERE REALLY VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE GREAT STAFF THAT WORK WITH US AND KEEPS US ON TRACK. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COMMENTS. COUNCILOR PEÑA TO CLOSE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE. THIS IS A CHALLENGE AS WE'VE BEEN MEETING OVER THE YEARS. I KNOW COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COUNCILOR BENTON WERE ON THE COMMITTEE BEFORE. AND REALLY THE WAY WE OPERATED WAS WE WENT AWAY FROM EARMARKS AND THE LEGISLATION WAS FOR EARMARKS. OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS WE'VE CHANGED TO THE GRANT FORMAT. AND NOW THEY BROUGHT BACK THE EARMARK. WE WENT BACK TO A REDRAFT OF OUR LEGISLATION TO INCLUDE THE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. PLUS, THE EARMARKS. I WANT TO THANK COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THE ADMINISTRATION. I APPRECIATE ALL THE INPUT. IT TAKES A LOT TO GET THESE PROJECTS GOING AND GETTING INPUT FROM THE COUNCILORS AND ADMINISTRATION. AND A SPECIAL THANKS TO TOM. THANK YOU AGAIN AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AS AMENDED. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS FOR YOUR INDULGENCE IN ALL OF THE ISSUES. I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR NEW DIRECTOR OF COUNCIL SERVICES. AND GIVE HIM AN APPLAUSE IF WE COULD. JUST TO CLOSE. COUNCILORS, THANK YOU. AND TO THE PUBLIC, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. OH, COUNCILOR BENTON I'M SORRY. YOU HAD A LETTER THAT YOU WANTED TO READ? >>COUN. BENTON: AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE. I COULDN'T PULL THIS UP IN TIME WHEN WE HAD CUT SHORT OUR PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS FROM LISA, THE PRESIDENT OF THE BARELA'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THIS IS REGARDING THE STADIUM PROJECT. IN THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS I'VE HEARD FROM MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE RIGHTLY INCENSED WITH THE RECENT TREATMENT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER YOU ALL THE CHANCE TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT WITH US. WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A QUICKLY PENDING DEADLINE TO GET THIS MEASURE ON THE BALLOT. THAT HAS DICTATED THE TIMELINE OF YOUR ACTIVITIES. SOMETIMES WHEN WE'RE IN A HURRY WE BEST PRIORITIZE WHAT IS IMPORTANT. WE ALL DO THAT SOMETIMES. AND WE HERE HEAR REGULARLY ABILITY OUR BARRIO IS THE HEART OF ALBUQUERQUE. PEOPLE COME TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO FEEL GROUNDED IN OUR CULTURE AND PLACE. WE'RE MORE THAN A QUAINT BACKDROP WHY HAVE A HISTORY THAT IS RIFE WITH TRAUMA AND DISENFRANCHISED. AT THIS CRUCIAL MOMENT WITH IMPACTS IT'S IMPORTANT THAN EVER TO HONOR AND APPRECIATE THE INJUSTICES AND PAIN WE'VE ENDURED. AS WE PRESERVE AND FORTIFY WHAT IS PRECIOUS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE PROCESS TOGETHER, WE AS A CITY AND COMMUNITY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROCESS JUSTLY IN A WAY THAT TRULY CENTERS ON OUR VALUES. WE COULD BE AN EXAMPLE TO OTHER CITIES IN THE REGION AND THE WORLD OF HOW TO ENACT A JUST TRANSITION TO WHAT IS TRULY IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT, COUNCILOR BENTON. THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT. ANY QUESTIONS OF COUNCILORS? THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WITH THAT, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.