>> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, IF THE MOTION FOR REMOVAL FROM THE THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION FAILS, WE WOULD ENTERTAIN ANOTHER MOTION FOR POSSIBLY IMMEDIATE ACTION, OR IF THERE'S NO OTHER MOTION MADE, WITH IT WOULD GO TO COMMITTEE. IT WOULD REMAIN ON LETTER OF INTRODUCTION AND GO TO COMMITTEE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. APPRECIATE IT. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, R-19. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PULLING R-19 OUT OF THE FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATION COMMITTEE. APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE AND USE OF GRANT FUNDS FOR AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY ENERGY EFFICIENCY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND AUTHORIZING APPROPRIATION FOR THE GENERAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT IN FISCAL YEAR 2026. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR TELLES. QUESTIONS? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. PEÑA: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. ANY QUESTIONS? MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE'RE ON TO REPORTS OF COMMITTEE. THERE ARE NONE THIS EVENING. NOW, WE HAVE DEFERRALS AND WITHDRAWALS. I GUESS THE QUESTION FROM EARLIER WAS DID WE HAVE TO PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA FIRST -- I WAS ASKING. WE CAN JUST AUTOMATICALLY DO WITH THE DRAW? >> THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S AN EITHER/OR SITUATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. IT WAS SCRIPTED. THANK YOU SO MUCH. VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO, MA'AM. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE'LL MOVE TO CONSENT AGENDA. ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE. FOR THE INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA WHO ARE APPOINTED TO SERVE ON BOARD OR COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY QUESTIONS? MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. PEÑA: ITEM NINE, ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, THERE WILL BE AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL LEGISLATIVE RELATION COMMITTEE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, MAY 6th AT 3:00 P.M. VIA ZOOM. AND LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING SCHEDULED ON WEDNESDAY, MAY 13th AT 5:00 P.M. IS CANCELED. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. THERE WAS ONE RIGHT BEFORE THAT. THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL -- >>COUN. BASSAN: I READ THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'M SORRY. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. TWO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING MAY 7th AND 14th AT 5:00 P.M. IN THE VINCENT E. GRIEGO CHAMBERS BASEMENT LEVEL. HYBRID MEETINGS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THERE'S A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON MAY 11th AT 5:00 P.M. IN THE NINTH FLOOR OF THE ALBUQUERQUE GOVERNMENT CENTER. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR LEWIS. WE'RE ON TO FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS. THERE ARE NONE. APPEALS, THERE ARE NONE. WE'RE ON GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE COUNCIL IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY IF THEY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA AND OUR WEBSITE FRIDAY. HERE'S THE PUBLIC COMMENT GROUND RULES, EACH PARTICIPANT HAS ONE MINUTE TO PRESENT. COMMENTS ARE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCILORS ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL. THERE'S A ONE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT AND THE BELL WILL RING TO INDICATE YOUR TIME IS UP. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCILORS, AS BACK IN FEBRUARY I PROMISED TO BE HERE, I WILL GIVE YOU THE FINAL REPORT SCARRED -- SCORECARD AT WILSON MIDDLE SCHOOL AND WHITTIER ELEMENTARY. THE CITY STEPPED UP. I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THIS NEWS. I HOPE YOU CAN SEE ON THE REPORT CARD THE GRADES. THEY'VE BECOME A PART -- THE MAYOR HAS ASSIGNED JOHN DODD AT ACS. IT'S OBVIOUS WE'RE GETTING BACK TO THE CITY FOR THINGS WE'RE NEEDING. WE'RE GRATEFUL. THE STRIPES WERE PAINTED AT THE INTERSECTION. WHICH IS A BUSY STREET. THE RED LIGHT IS EXTENDED SO STUDENTS CAN GET THROUGH THE LIGHT BEFORE IT TURNS GREEN. BOTH APS AND ACS ARE ALWAYS LOOKING OUT FOR THE KIDS ON THE WALKING SCHOOL BUS. AND THE STREETS HAVE SEEN A GIANT IMPROVEMENT. I ACKNOWLEDGE COUNCILOR ROGERS FOR THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ADAM FOLLOWED BY FRANCESCO. >> THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M HERE AND I AM A CITIZEN OF ALBUQUERQUE. I LIVE DOWNTOWN AND WORK DOWNTOWN. I SPEAK IN FAVOR OF A BILL IN FRONT OF YOU, O-26-14. THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO START WORKING ON THINGS TO CLEAN UP OUR HOUSE. WE CAN'T INVITE CHESTS -- GUESTS WHEN IT'S MESSY. I THINK THIS IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I WANTED TO COME DOWN AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY AND EFFORTS TRYING TO DO THINGS DOWNTOWN TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY. REALLY EXCITED FOR THE BRIGHT FUTURE OF THE DOWNTOWN. I THINK THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION NOT ONLY HELPS DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR BUT ALSO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY THAT NEED ATTENTION FROM CITY SERVICE AND APD. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY GREAT BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR SERVICE AND EFFORTS. I APPRECIATE YOU. >> FRANCESCO FOLLOWED BY ILSE. ILSE FOLLOWED BY MARSLEN. MARSLEN FOLLOWED BY GRACE. ILSE FOLLOWED BY MARSLENP. >> GOOD EVENING. O-14 -- CONFLATE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUTSIDE WITH VIOLENT CRIMINALS. THESE SLIP INTO THE SLIPPERY SLOPE OF SAFETY. MOVING PEOPLE AROUND WITH NO PLAN TO MOVE TOWARD SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSTRUCTIVE. WITH LITTLE OR NO PAIR AS HOW THIS CHAOS AFFECTS. WITH NO FOREEABLE LIMITS TO THE MONEY OR PEOPLE HOURS WE'RE WILLING TO WASTE ON DISPLACEMENT. WE'LL PAT OURSELVES ON THE BACK. AND WE WILL NOT SPEND TIME AND EFFORTS TO SEEK PROVEN SOLUTIONS. AND HAVE LONG LAST COME UP WITH PLAN THAT DOES NOT REPEAT AND REPEAT AGAIN AND AGAIN THE NONSENSICAL HOPE THAT EVERYONE THAT LIVES OUTSIDE WILL DO THE FAVOR AND GO POOF AND DISAPPEAR INSTEAD OF KEEPING ON BOTHERING US. >> MARSLEN FOLLOWED BY GRAYS. GRACE. >> YOU KNOW, WEST SIDE HAS SINGLE DIGIT CASE WORKERS. FOR HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE. SINGLE-DIGIT CASE WORKERS. THAT'S HOW MANY OF OUR SHELTERS LOOK. YET, WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN BLAME AND CRIMINALIZE THOSE WHO SEE OUR SHELTERS AND SUBPAR STATE FOR WHAT THEY ARE. AND IN THE FACE OF ALL THIS YOU CHOOSE NOT TO LOOK AT YOUR OWN SYSTEM FAILING AND DECIDE WE MUST HAVE NOT PUT THE BOOT DOWN HARD ENOUGH. WE HAVEN'T DEFUNDED SERVICES ENOUGH. SURELY THAT WILL GET THE JOB DONE, COUNCILOR BACA. FOLKS WAIT IN JAIL FOR THE TOURISM DOLLARS. YET, ONCE THE DOLLARS ROLL IN, WE WON'T SEE THEN IN OUR PROGRAM OR OFFICE. NO, NO, PUBLIC TRANSIT WILL STILL GET CUT. HOUSING PROGRAMS WON'T GET BETTER. THERE'S SO MANY BETTER WAYS YOU CAN SPEND YOUR TIME. HERE, YOU CONTINUE TO SHOW HOW EASY CRUELTY COWARDICE AND GREED CAN REALLY BE. >> GRACE FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, KELLER AND PENA CONSISTENTLY FAIL US. WE NEED LEADERSHIP. THE WAR IS DRIVING UP GAS PRICE AND WE'RE SEEING A FOOD DESERT. THE RIO GRANDE IS LIKELY TO DRY THIS MONTH. AND THIS BODY OFFERED NO PLAN, NO URGENCY, NO RECKONING FOR OUR WATER, AGRICULTURE AND FUTURE. PENA'S RESPONSE IS LET US DIE IN HEATSTROKE BECAUSE LANDLORDS AREN'T REQUIRED TO TURN ON COOLING UNTIL MAY. THAT IS NOT AN OVERSIGHT, IT'S A POLICY CHOICE. THAT'S WHAT PROPERTY OWNERS ABOVETENANTS AND SENIORS AND CHILDREN WHO CANNOT SURVIVE. AND ONE OF OUR LAST FAMILY DESTINATIONS WHILE SICKING POLICE ON A SUFFERING POPULATION THAT KEEPS GROWING BECAUSE PENA VOTING DOWN THE ZONING REFORM. THEY'RE WORKING IN TANDEM TO PUT US IN JAIL JUST LIKE DAREN WHITE WOULD HAVE. THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE. THE 19% OF US VOTING FOR UBALLEZ ARE WATCHING AND WE DEMAND MORE. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA, CITY COUNCILORS, I'M LISA. I HOPE YOU'RE GETTING A TASTE OF HOW WE FEEL ABOUT HOW THE VOTES ARE GOING. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH YOU ALL. I MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT BOTH AS AN INDIVIDUAL TODAY AND PART OF A BROAD COALITION OF 52 ORGANIZATIONS AND NONPROFITS WHO ARE COMMITTED TO HUMAN RIGHTS AND SOCIAL JUSTICE IN ALBUQUERQUE, SPECIFICALLY BERNALILLO COUNTY, AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THE STREETS. AND WE'RE COMING TO YOU TO SAY THINGS ARE NOT WORKING. WHY ARE WE GOING TO DOUBLE DOWN ON A POLICY THAT IS INEFFECTIVE AND NOT WORKING AND IT'S CRUEL? FIRST, I WANT TO THANK BERNALILLO COUNTY COMMISSIONER FRANK BACA. AND HE'S FINALLY BRINGING TOGETHER THE AGENCIES WHO ARE GOING TO GET US SIDEWALKS FOR BLAKE ROAD BETWEEN UNSER AND COORS. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO COUNTY CLERK KAVANAUGH FOR RECOGNIZING THE NEED TO BRING IT ALL TOGETHER. THANK YOU, FRANK BACA. I WANT TO LET US KNOW RECALLS ONLY NEED 30% OF THOSE WHO REGISTERED TO VOTE TO SIGN. >> DAVID FOLLOWED BY DINEE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. GREAT NEWS, WE TALK ABOUT DISCRIMINATION. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SETTING RULES FOR A CLASS OF INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE OF THEIR SOCIAL STATUS. AND THAT IS DISCRIMINATION ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE BOARD. WHETHER IT'S WHERE WE SIT AT. WE HAVE DOG PARKS IN THE CITY. YOU CAN'T FIND PARKS FOR US TO BE IN. I HAVE MY NEIGHBORS WHO CALL POLICE ON ME. I'M TEN YEARS OF DISMISSAL FROM APD. I'M CO-FOUNDER OF TWO-WAY STREET ABQ. WHICH RAN INTO -- WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'M INVOLVED IN MY COMMUNITY. YOU CAN READ THE DECEMBER 7, 2017 ALIBI WEEKLY ABOUT TWO-WAY STREET AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT -- WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'M OUT THERE. WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND FOCUS ON THAT'S WHERE I SLEEP AT. AND WHAT'S GOING ON UP ABOVE. WHERE THE MONEY IS AT. CURRENTLY WE'RE NOT BEING STIMULATED. DINEE FOLLOWED BY BRICK. >> HELLO, PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. I'M HERE SAD AND I'M KIND OF SCARED. BECAUSE I'M A HUMAN BEING WHO LIVES IN THE DISTRICT HERE. IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. DISTRICT TWO. ALL THINGS ASIDE, THEY'RE TRYING TO KICK ME OUT. I'VE KNOWN MY PARTNER FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS, AND WE'VE NEVER BEEN SAFE. I HAVEN'T COMMITTED ANY INFRACTION AGAINST THEM. THEY'RE COMING UP WITH THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO USE AT ME. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WRONG. I SAW THE MAYOR TODAY. AND HE DIDN'T -- THE ONLY THING HE KEPT SAYING TO ME WHEN I TOLD HIM I ALREADY HAD HOUSING AND I WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH HIM TO DISCUSS THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE -- I'M GOING TO BE ON THE STREETS AGAIN. DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN TO ME. SOMEBODY HELP ME. >>COUN. PEÑA: MS. SENGEL, SOMEBODY CAN REACH OUT TO HER. >> BRICK FOLLOWED BY LEX. >> OVERHEAD. [ MUSIC PLAYING ]? >> I JUST WANT YOU SHOW YOU THIS VIDEO AGAIN. YOU ARE CRIMINALIZING HOMELESSNESS. BUT, THIS IS GOING DOWN IN YOUR OWN DVRC, FAMILY ADVOCACY CENTER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU. IF THIS ISN'T IMPORTANT, THIS GUY PUTTING HIS HANDS ON PEOPLE. PHYSICALLY -- IT'S NOT A SECURITY AGENT. SECURITY AGENTS CAN'T DO THAT ANYWAY. COPS BETTER KNOW WHAT THAT SAYS ALL OVER THE LAWS. SHIT LIKE THIS, THIS IS THE PROBLEM. THIS GUY RIGHT HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE GOTTEN RID OF HIM. LOTUS MANAGEMENT. HE DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU. EXCEPT FOR HE VIOLATES PEOPLE'S RIGHTS, THEN HE WORKS FOR YOU. THEN HE WORKS FOR YOU. >> LEX FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FRIENDS, WE'RE OFTEN TOLD THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS THE CLOSEST TO THE PEOPLE. IT'S WHERE POTHOLES GET FIXED, OUR SAFETY IS MANAGED AND OUR VOICES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HEARD. BUT WHEN THE CITY HIDES BEHIND PENDING LITIGATION TO STOP TALKING TO A CITIZEN, IT ISN'T ACTING AS A LEGITIMATE GOVERNING BODY, IT'S ACTING LIKE A CHILD THAT TAKES THEIR BALL AND GOES HOME WHEN THEY DON'T LIKE THE RULES OF THE GAME. THIS SILENT TREATMENT APPROACH IS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS NOT STRENGTH. IT TELLS LEADERSHIP IS TERRIFIED OF OPEN DIALOGUE. IT SUGGESTS THEY CANNOT DEFEND THEIR POLICIES IN COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION. SO TO DO SO IS TO GAG THE OPPRESSION OF THE OPPOSING PARTY. CHOOSING THE CUTOFF COMMUNICATION IS JUST ANOTHER CHAPTER IN THE SHAMEFUL EXPENSIVE STORY OF DODGING ACCOUNTABILITY. A GOVERNMENT THAT REFUSES TO LISTEN TO ITS PEOPLE IS NOT GOVERNING, IT'S RULING. IT'S TIME TO TELL ALBUQUERQUE TO JUST STOP HIDING. TREAT YOUR CITIZENS WITH RESPECT, EVEN AND ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT HAVE THE CITY IN THEIR BEST INTEREST. >> TAD FOLLOWED BY MICHELLE. >> WOULD YOU GIVE OVERHEAD? THANK YOU. MY NAME IS TAD. LET ME BEGIN THIS WAY. HOW SMART YOU ARE WASTING OVER OUR STUPID AGENDA? WHICH IS ALREADY IS STATE OF NEW MEXICO LAW. I'M SPEAKING EC-26-145. SO, NOW, CUTTING TIME BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO STAY LATE. NOBODY ASK YOU TO GET HERE. YOU WANTED TO REPRESENT PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE, EVERY DISTRICT. YOU BETTER LISTEN, EVERYONE, AND DO PEOPLE'S JOB, NOT SPECIAL INTERESTS. THANK YOU. >> MICHELLE FOLLOWED BY RUDOLPH. >> THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE RAIL TRAIL. FOR THE PROTECTED BIKE LANES THAT ARE ADDED TO THE STREET AND SIDE WALK IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE LONG OVERDUE. WHEN THE RAIL TRAIL CONNECTS TO SAWMILL TO DOWNTOWN AND OLD TOWN AND TRANSIT AND WALKABLE STREETS, IT REALLY WORKS FOR EVERYONE. THE OLDER WHO WANS TO STAY ACTIVE WITHOUT DRIVING EVERYWHERE. THE COLLEGE STUDENT WHO DOESN'T OWN A CAR. THE PERSON WITH A DISABILITY NAVIGATING OUR CITY WITH DIGNITY. THE FAMILY THAT DOESN'T WANT TO LOAD THE FAMILY INTO THE VEHICLE FOR EVERY ERRAND. OR A TRAVELLER THAT DOESN'T WANT TO RENT A CAR. WHICH I'VE BEEN THAT. MANY TIMES OVER THE WORLD. THESE AREN'T NICHE NEEDS. PLEASE KEEP BUILDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THANK YOU. >> RUDOLPH FOLLOWED BY IAN. IAN FOLLOWED BY GWEN. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OFPT COUNCIL. I THINK WE NEED TWO MINUTES AGAIN. PLEASE CHANGE THAT. MAIN REASON I'M SPEAKING TODAY IS THE BUDGET CUTS TO ABQ RIDE. I RIDE THE BUS FREQUENTLY. AND I TOOK THE BUS HERE TODAY. I THINK IT'S SILLY WE'RE THROWING UP OUR HANDS AND SAYING WE CAN'T FILL THE POSITIONS. THERE'S SO MANY THINGS WE CAN DO TO GET THE POSITIONS FILLED. LIKE EVERYBODY IN ALBUQUERQUE NEEDS TO KNOW THERE'S AN OPENING. I BELIEVE THERE ARE MORE THAN 50. WE SHOULD ADVERTISE ON BILLBOARDS AND BOOST THE ADS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, POP UPS ON THE WEBSITE. WE SHOULD HAVE REPRESENTATION AT ALL THE COLLEGE AND CAREER FAIRS IN THE AREA AND ALSO BE WORKING WITH ALL OF THE MANY JOB AND CAREER PREP ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE RIGHT HERE IN DOWNTOWN. ADDITIONALLY, WE CAN BE PRINTING FLIERS, AND PRINTING QR CODE AND DISPLAYING THEM OVER CITY FACILITIES. I HAVE A FEW SECONDS, BUT PLEASE RESTORE THE TIME. THANK YOU. >> LED, FOLLOWED BY JESUS. >> HI. YES. I LIVE IN DISTRICT TWO IN WEST PARK. AND I'M HERE TO ASK YOU MAINTAIN SUPPORT FOR FLAMENCO COURSES AT THE SAME LEVEL YOU PROVIDED THE PREVIOUS YEARS. MY DAUGHTER IS 3 AND A STUDENT THERE. HE FELL IN LOVE WITH FLAMENCO. ONE OF THE FIRST SHE SAT THROUGH WAS THE BURQ IRK SHE LOVES GOING THERE AND HER FIRST CLASS WAS RIGHT AT 3. AND FLAMECNC WORKS. THIS IS HOW THE CITY'S TRADITIONS ARE MAINTAINED. IN ALBUQUERQUE, THE FLAMENCO PIPELINE EXISTS BECAUSE THE CITY INVESTS IN IT. PROPOSED BUDGET IS CUT AFTER EIGHT YEARS. THE FESTIVAL PERFORMANCES DOWNTOWN AND SCHOLARSHIPS WILL NOT CONTINUE. ALBUQUERQUE IS THE CAPITAL FOR THIS KIND OF THING. IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO LOSE IT. I HOPE YOU RESTORE THE BUDGET. >>COUN. PEÑA: I DIDN'T HEAR THE FIRST COMMENT THAT YOU MADE. MAINTAIN SOMETHING -- >> MAINTAIN THE FUNDING FOR FLAMENCO WORK DOWNTOWN. THAT'S HOW YOU INVEST IN DOWNTOWN. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, YOUNG LADY. >> JESUS FOLLOWED BY AMALIA. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT FLAMENCO WORKS IN DOWNTOWN ALBUQUERQUE. LINDY'S DINER FALLING WAS FAILING IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE CANNOT TO DISINVEST IN THIS AREA AND DOWNTOWN. I ASK YOU TO INVEST IN US AND FLAMENCO WORKS. I'M ASKING YOU TO INVEST IN DOWNTOWN AND THE CHILDREN AND YOUTH WHO COMPROMISE THE MAJORITY OF OUR PROGRAMMING. ONE WEEK AGO, LINDY'S CAME CRASHING DOWN. LINDY'S IS A NEIGHBOR. WE SHARE 4500 SQUARE FOOT WALL WITH THE DINER. WE DON'T NEED EXTRAORDINARY SPEECHES, WE NEED EXTRAORDINARY CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY FROM PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING TO SUPPORT CONSTITUENT AND SUPPORT PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS TO INCLUDE THINGS IN ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO. WE ELECT YOU, WE CHOOSE YOU. IN OUR BEST MOMENTS, IN OUR WORST. WE HOPE YOU'RE THERE WITH US. WE CHOOSE YOU TO KEEP US AND OUR CHILDREN SAFE AND WE'RE STILL WAITING. I'M ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT. I THINK OF CITY COUNCIL APPROPRIATING $1.4 MILLION FOR BANDS OF ENCHANTMENT, THEY CAN INVEST IN THE ONLY NONPROFIT ON ROUTE 66. >>COUN. PEÑA: EXCUSE ME. JESUS. WHAT DO YOU GET FROM THE CITY CURRENTLY? WAS THERE ANY PROPOSED CUTS? >> YES, WE WERE TOP FIVE FUNDED. $95,000. WE'RE PROPOSED AT ZERO. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> AMALIA FOLLOWED BY BARBARA. >> I'M A CODIRECTOR OF FLAMENCO WORKS. I'M A TEACHER, DANCER. WE'RE LOCATED DOWNTOWN AND WE SERVE 6,000 CONSTITUENTS ANNUALLY FROM THE CITY. I ASK YOU TO RESTORE FUNDING IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. WEEK AGO LINDY'S DINER COLLAPSED ON CENTRAL. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO CONTINUE DISINVESTING IN DOWNTOWN. FLAMENCO WORKS IS HERE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 8:00 A.M. TO 8:00 P.M. DOING WORK TO PROMOTE VIBRANCY IN THIS AREA. IT HAS GROWN FROM 800 ATTENDEES TO 3500 IN TWO YEARS. THIS ATTRACTS VISITORS ALIKE AND GENERATES HOTEL ROOMS. IT SUPPORTS VENDORS AND BECOME ONE OF THE BIGGEST EVENTS IN DISTRICT TWO. OUR CLASSES DOUBLED AND WE'RE EVEN ADDING A SUMMER CAMP FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE. WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE SUPPORTING THE PLACES THAT YOU LOVE, THE PEOPLE YOU LOVE, AND THE COMMUNITIES THAT MAKE THIS CITY SO SPECIAL. >> BARBARA FOLLOWED BY NOEMI. >> GOOD EVENING, I LIVE IN DISTRICT SEVEN. I SPEND LOT OF TIME IN DISTRICT TWO AT FLAMENCO WORKS AND ALSO WHERE MY GRANDCHILDREN AND SON AND DAUGHTER-IN-LAW LIVE. I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO RESTORE ALL THE FUNDING TO FLAMENCO WORKS. MY 3-YEAR-OLD GRANDDAUGHTER I SAT IN THE RAIN ON THE CONCRETE FLOOR IN FRONT OF THE STAGE WATCHING HER DANCE AND THAT WAS IT. SHE FELL IN LOVE WITH FLAMENCO. AMALIA AND JESUS ARE WONDERFUL TEACHERS AND PERFORMERS. THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND WARMTH MAKE THEIR COOL A PLACE WHERE I WANT TO BRING MY GRANDDAUGHTER. I HOPE TO BE BRINGING HER THERE TO LEARN FLAMENCO FOR MANY YEARS. PLEASE RESTORE THEIR FUNDING TO THE FULL AMOUNT. >> NOEMI FOLLOWED BY SARAH. >> GOOD EVENING. I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'M A MOTHER OF SIX. FIVE OF MY DAUGHTERS DANCE IN FLAMENCO. AND BECAUSE ALL THE HELP THE CITY IS DOING TO HELP WE'RE ABLE TO SEND MY KIDS TO FLAMENCO. AND THEY'RE ABLE TO DREAM AND DO SOMETHING ELSE AFTER SCHOOL. THEY ARE STUDENTS OF AMALIA AND JESUS FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. I HAVE MY TWINS AT 14. MY 9-YEAR-OLD. AND 8-YEAR-OLD LOVE FLAMENCO. THEY ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO SOMETHING TO DO. WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR THE RESTORATION OF THE FUNDS FROM THE CITY FOR THE ARTS. IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR THE CHILDREN. A MOTHER OF SIX, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO AFFORD ANY TYPE OF CLASSES FOR MY KIDS. BUT BECAUSE OF THEIR SCHOLARSHIPS AND FUNDING, THAT IS HELPING MY CHILDREN. I'M HERE TO ASK FOR RESTORATION OF THE FUNDS. THANK YOU. >> SARAH FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> HI. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME TODAY. I HAVE BEEN A LONGTIME SUPPORTER OF FLAMENCO WORKS. SINCE THE BEGINNING IN 2019. AND I AM REQUESTING TO RESTORE FUNDING FOR THE GENERAL BUDGET FOR FLAMENCO WORKS. I'VE SEEN THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE BETTERMENT OF NEW MEXICO AND SPECIFICALLY BY INCLUDING THE -- TWO SCHOLARSHIPS. THEY OPENED THE DOORS TO A POSITIVE OUTLET FOR OUR YOUTH IN NUMEROUS WAYS. YOUNG PEOPLE WHO OTHERWISE WOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS. THEY EXHIBITED A CONSISTENT COMMITMENT ON SERVING THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. AND BECAUSE OF THIS COMMITMENT THEY HAVE BEEN A COMMUNITY ANCHOR ORIGINALLY IN BARELAS AND NOW IN DOWNTOWN ALBUQUERQUE. DANCE IS A POSITIVE OUTLET THAT OFFERS CULTURAL CONNECTION AND CONFIDENCE BUILDING IN OUR MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES. IT HELPS SHAPE IDENTITY AND BELONGING AND CREATING A SENSE OF BELONGING. THIS NOT ONLY CHANGES TRAJECTORY OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE NOT JUST TEACH DANCE. BECAUSE OF THIS, THEY HAVE BECOME PART OF THE CULTURAL FABRIC OF THE CITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> LISA FOLLOWED BY ZANE. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. I BOUGHT AND I RENOVATED THE BUILDING BETWEEN 2nd AND 3rd ON CENTRAL SEVERAL YEARS BACK. I AM LOOKING FORWARD BECAUSE OF ORDINANCE 26-14 TO INVEST IN THE MAIN CORRIDOR ON CENTRAL. THAT'S BETWEEN 3rd AND 8th. BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB, 2nd TO 3rd. I THINK WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB 5th TO 8th. BUT THAT INTERIOR PIECE IS REALLY DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF THE DILAPIDATED BUILDING. AND THE PROBLEMS WITH BUSINESSES BEING ABLE TO SURVIVE THERE. OUR POINT IS TO BUY THOSE BUILDINGS AND PUT VIBRANT BUSINESSES IN THEM. I THINK THE ORDINANCE IS REALLY HELPFUL FOR BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP BUSINESSES HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ZANE FOLLOWED BY JANET. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US TODAY. I OWN A BUSINESS DOWNTOWN. HAVE FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS. SO, I'M HERE -- AND I UNDERSTAND THE COMPASSION ASPECT OF THE HOMELESS ISSUE. BUT ALMOST EVERY SINGLE DAY I SEE SOME VARIATION OF THE SITUATION HAPPEN WHERE A GENTLEMAN RISES, AND URINEATES ON THE BUILDING AND EVERY MORNING I HAVE TO PICK UP FECES ON THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE SOMEHOW THAT'S COMPASSION TO LET THEM LIVE LIKE THIS. WHILE I CAN SEE OTHER PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVE, I HAVE A 2-YEAR-OLD AND A WIFE. I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THEM DOWNTOWN AND FEEL LIKE THAT'S SAFE. ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BUSINESS I OWN ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO WAS CHASED THROUGH DOWNTOWN BY A CRAZED GENTLEMAN AT 8:00 A.M. AND WAS SAVED BY A SECURITY GUARD. WHEN SHE ASKED WHAT ARE THE SOLUTIONS FOR THIS, I HAD TO LAUGH AND SAY THAT'S ALBUQUERQUE. I DON'T WANT US TO BE THAT WAY. I KNOW NONE OF YOU GUYS WANT IT TO BE THIS WAY. THERE HAS TO BE SOME SOLUTION THAT ISN'T JUST THE STATUS QUO MAINTAINED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> JANET FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN. >> GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MEMBERS. FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION THURSDAY NIGHT GOING INTO THE WE HOURS OF THE MORNING. ING AND GREAT QUESTION ASKING GREAT QUESTIONS AND GETTING GREAT INFORMATION FOR THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THERE'S A LOT OF JOY, BEAUTY AND LEARNING AND CULTURAL SHARING THAT WENT ON LAST WEEKEND. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE MULTICULTURAL EVENT AT SINGING ARROW. AND SOME AND HEARD SOME PERFORMING GROUPS. MADE A FEW PURCHASES. HELPING THE ECONOMY. AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE TURKISH VESTFUL WHICH WAS FABULOUS. GREAT FOOD. GREAT MUSIC. GREAT SHARING OF CULTURES. AND MANY, MANY VOLUNTEERS. JUST SO MANY VOLUNTEERS AND IT WAS FREE. LOTS OF PEOPLE. AND ON SUNDAY, YESTERDAY, THE ALBUQUERQUE COUNCIL GARDEN CLUBS HAD A WONDERFUL -- IT WAS TICKETED. BUT A WONDERFUL PARADE OF GARDENS THAT YOU COULD VISIT. AGAIN, BEAUTIFUL. ROSES, IRIS, PLANTS. AND ACTUALLY, THE GARDEN CLUB BUILDING IN LOS GATOS PARK, TALK ABOUT A CITY TREASURE. THERE'S TEN DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL GARDENS SURROUNDING THAT BUILDING. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. YOU'RE AMAZING. THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING OUR CITY AND ALL OF THE WONDERFUL THINGS WE HAVE TO DO HERE. >> I WOULD HAVE STOPPED. I COULDN'T SEE THE TIMER ON THE SCREEN. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. >> BENJAMIN, FOLLOWED BY TIM. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. THERE WAS A VERY EXCELLENT SPEECH GIVEN BY ANOTHER PRESENTER A COUPLE MINUTES AGO ABOUT THE HOMELESSNESS SITUATION THAT WE HAVE IN DOWNTOWN. THERE IS A SOLUTION. IT'S CALLED MORE HOUSING. I BELIEVE THAT FIVE OF YOU VOTED AGAINST ALL OPTIONS WE HAVE TO ENCOURAGE MORE HOUSING. NOT ALL OPTIONS, MANY OF THE OPTIONS WE HAD TO ENCOURAGE MORE HOUSING. PLEASE RECONSIDER THAT. AND WHAT I ACTUALLY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS THERE IS A PROPOSAL IN THE BUDGET TO INCREASE FUNDING FOR POLICE TECHNOLOGIES, AND I THINK THAT CAN BE GREAT AS LONG AS IT'S THE RIGHT TECHNOLOGIES. THINGS THAT DON'T INCREASE MOVEMENT TOWARD A SURVEILLANCE STATE. DRONES, NOT SO GREAT. AND TRAFFIC CAMERAS THAT GIVE YOU A MINORITY REPORT SITUATION, MAYBE ALSO NOT SO GREAT. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. >> TIM FOLLOWED BY ANDRES. -- AND EXAMINING CUMULATIVE EFFECTS ON THE PUBLIC BECAUSE IT CONSTITUTES PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE WHICH IS BEING ENGAGED IN WITH THE COLLUSION OF GOVERNMENT AND NEWS MEDIA AND ENTERTAINMENT. AT THIS POINT, THE PUBLIC CAN NO LONGER DIFFERENTIATE -- CASE IN POINT BEING THE ASSASSINATION OF CHARLEY KIRK IS FAKE. HE'S ALIVE. THIS IS KNOWN BY TURNING POINT USA, AND INFLUENCERS LIKE CANDICE OWENS. AND THE 7-13-24 ON THE PRESIDENT WHICH WAS ALSO FAKE. AND NOBODY DIED THERE. NOW, THE REASON WHY THIS IS A PROBLEM IS IT DOES CONSTITUTE A FORM OF PERHAPS PROPAGANDA THAT IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A BLIND SPOT. OF ALL THE INFORMATION NEEDED TO REVEAL THE EXTENT OF THIS ANDCLUSION BETWEEN GOVERNMENT AND NEWS MEDIA IS AVAILABLE AT ITS.MONSTER. >> ANDRES FOLLOWED BY CARLA. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL, I WORK WITH THE NEW MEXICO DREAM TEAM IN DOWNTOWN. I AM HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST COUNCILOR BACA'S ORDINANCE. NEW MEXICO DREAM TEAM IS A STATEWIDE ORGANIZATION COMMITTED TO MULTIGENERATIONAL UNDOCUMENTED LGBT AND MIXED STATUS FAMILIES TOWARD LIBERATION. WE BELIEVE ALL PEOPLE SHOULD BE TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT REGARDLESS OF IMMIGRATION OR RESIDENTIAL STATUS. A FEW MONTHS AGO THERE'S AN UNSHELTERED MAN WHO FELL ASLEEP ON THE SIDE WALK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE. HE GAVE HE A CHANCE TO TALK TO HIM. HE DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ME, BUT I COULD TELL HE WAS HURT AND NEEDED HELP. I OFFERED HIM FOOD AND WATER, WHICH HE TOOK AND THEN SEEMED LIKE HE WAS GOING ELSEWHERE. AN HOUR LATER HE PASSED OUT ON MY COUCH. I CALLED TO GET ACS FOLKS. AND I REITERATED HE WASN'T HURTING ANYONE. HE WAS SIMPLY STRUGGLING A LOT. EVENTUALLY ACS CAME ASK TOOK HIM SOMEWHERE AND OFFERED HIM HELP. THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO HELP PEOPLE. HELP OUR UNSHELTERED NEIGHBORS. ALL THIS DOES IS CRIMINALIZE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GO BUT THE STREETS. THIS IS WHY I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON O-26-14. THANK YOU. >> CARLA FOLLOWED BY CALVIN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M WITH THE CIVIC POLICY. WE ARE OPPOSING ORDINANCE 26-14 BECAUSE OF THE PENALTY SECTION IMPACT ON UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS. WE ASK THE COUNCIL TAKES THE APPROACH OF TACKLING BARRIERS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE. ACCORDING TO THE TRUST, NEW MEXICO HOMELESS HAS INCREASED 87%. 47% FASTER THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. AND THE AVERAGE COST OF HOMES INCREASED 70% WHICH OUTPACES THE WAGE GROWTH. THE PEW TRUST ALSO PAINTS REGULATORY BARRIERS AS A PRIMARY CONTRIBUTOR TO THE HOUSING CRISIS. SO WE OPPOSE THE ORDINANCE AND ASK TO REVIEW SOME OF THE SECTIONS. EARLIER, WE DISCUSSED FOSTERED YOUTH. I WANT TO MENTION THAT 31 TO 46% YOUTH WHO AGE OUT OF FOSTER CARE EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS BY THE AGE OF 26. THANK YOU. >> CALVIN. >> HELLO. I'M A RESIDENT IN DISTRICT TWO. MY SON GOES TO FLAMENCO WORKS. I WANT TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR RESTORING THEIR FUNDING. IT'S MORE THAN JUST ABOUT MY SON AND HIS FRIENDS HAVING A NICE CLASS, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE ONE OF THE FEW DANCE STUDIOS THAT OFFER CLASSES FOR TODDLERS UNDER THE AGE OF 3. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AS JESUS AND AMALIA ELABORATED, THEY'RE BUILDING A COMMUNITY AND HELPING TO REVITALIZE DOWNTOWN, ONE BUSINESS AND ONE STOREFRONT AT A TIME. THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE. ONE BUSINESS AT TIME. OR NONPROFIT. PLEASE RESTORE THEIR FUNDING. THANK YOU. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE I WAS UNABLE TO IDENTIFY WITHIN ZOOM. THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW ON TO APPROVALS. EC-81. PRESENTATION OF FY25 AUDIT. MS. BROKAW. I WILL HAVE DISCUSSION -- RECEIPT BE NOTED. THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO SPEAK ON IT? NO? IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I HAVE ONE SIGN UP. THAT OCTAVIO. OCTAVIO? THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING. MY DAUGHTER ALSO GO TO FLAMENCO WORKS. I'M JUST HERE TO GIVE SUPPORT AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE HEARD AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE BEHIND THEM AND IT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE A CULTURE AND HAVE SOMETHING FOR MY KIDS TO DO. >>COUN. PEÑA: SIR. THIS REALLY ISN'T GERMANE TO -- I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE SIGNED UP ON THE WRONG SPOT. I THINK WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF FLAMENCO WORKS. JUST SO YOU KNOW. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNCILORS? SEEING NONE. THERE WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR A RECEIPT BE NOTED OF EC-81. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. PEÑA: NOW, UNDER APPROVALS. EC-118, GRANT APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY AVIATION DEPARTMENT TO THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FUNDING THROUGH BETTER UTILIZING INVESTMENT TO LEVERAGE DEVELOPMENT, BUILD GRANT PROGRAMS. I MOVE APPROVAL. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? ANY DISCUSSION? COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. MADAM CLERK, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WE ARE ON EC-144. CAPITAL IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM. INDIRECT OVERHEAD. IDOH, FY27. I MOVE APPROVAL. MOTION, AND SECOND BY VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE. THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. ANY QUESTION, COMMENTS? COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WOULD ACCEPTING THIS EC ALLOW IDOH USED TO BE PAY DIRECTORS AND OTHER STAFF OUT OF CIP? SOMEBODY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, DIRECTOR SANDOVAL WILL SPEAK TO THIS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THE MEMO AND SUPPORT THAT I PROVIDED SHOW THE STAFF THAT HELP US MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR KEEPING OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDING. MEETING ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS AND KEEPING OUR BOND RATING WHAT IT IS. AND KEEPING OUR INTEREST RATES LOW. SO, I THINK I PROVIDED THAT IN THE REPORT. >>COUN. GROUT: THAT WASN'T MY QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS ARE YOU USING IDOH TO PAY DIRECTORS AND OTHER INDIRECT STAFF OUT OF CIP? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THE CALCULATIONS THAT I PROVIDED PROVIDES SOME OF THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE AND FISCAL -- AND A PORTION OF DIRECTORS. >>COUN. GROUT: IS THE ANSWER YES? >> YES. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. IS THAT A CONFLICT WITHIN THE LAW? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WHICH LAW ARE YOU -- >>COUN. GROUT: FOR IDOH. FOR BONDS AND SO FORTH. MR. MOTSCO, CAN YOU TELL US -- FILL US IN A LITTLE BIT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THE O-3 INTENDED TO LET THE ADMINISTRATION KNOW WE WANTED TO START WITH A 2.75 INDIRECT OVERHEAD FOR CAPLY RECOVERED POSITIONS. THOSE POSITIONS BEING PRIMARILY THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT OF MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT AND PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. IN THE LONG-WINDED CHRIS MEREHEAD EXPLANATION I'M NOT GOING TO DO JUSTICE FOR, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WHEN YOU BUILD A NEW PARK, WHEN YOU BUILD A NEW STREET, YOU NEED STAFF AND MATERIALS TO DO THAT CONSTRUCTION. THE IRS ON GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS ALLOW FOR A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE THAT'S CALLED INDIRECT OVERHEAD. BUT THE IRS ALLOWS FOR THE IDOH. THERE ARE POSITIONS IN THE CITY THAT ARE PARTIALLY RECOVERED THROUGH IDOH. IF AN ACCOUNTANT IS WORKING ON A CAPITAL BILL VERSUS AN OPERATING BILL, THAT CAN BE PARSED OUT. LAWYERS, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS SUGGESTED IN THIS EC FOR CERTAIN ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICIALS WITHIN THOSE DEPARTMENTS. I DON'T BELIEVE WE ARE -- I WOULD ABSOLUTELY REFER TO LEGAL AND MR. MEREHEAD. I DON'T BELIEVE WITH O3 AND THE ADMINISTRATION'S EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION WE ARE IN VIOLATION OF ANY LAWS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, WHAT TYPE OF EXPENSES MAY BE COVERED OUT OF CIP. YOU HIT ON SOME OF IT. THIS IS BOND MONEY USED FOR CAPITAL EXPENSES ONLY. CERTAIN DIRECT EXPENSES ARE ALLOWED. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE MINDFUL OF THE INTENT. AND NOT BRING IN OPERATING DOLLARS FOR CAPITAL EXPENSES. THAT'S ALL. THE WAY THIS EC WAS WRITTEN, I DON'T THINK IT FULLY CAPTURED WHAT THE ORDINANCE MEANT IT TO DO. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WERE YOU GOING TO RESPOND? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, IRS GUIDELINES ALLOW FOR 5% OF OVERHEAD FOR THE TOTAL ISSUANCE OF A BOND. WHICH WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH. AND I BELIEVE THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS JUST PASSED RECENTLY BY COUNCIL WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ON THE EC AND PARTLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GOING TO BE HEARD TONIGHT. WE JUST GOT IT. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN -- WE SHOULD HAVE MORE TIME TO REVIEW THIS. THE WAY THE EC IS WRITTEN, THERE ARE TWO CALCULATIONS. ONE THAT IS UNDER THE ORDINANCE THAT THIS BODY JUST PASSED. AND THERE'S A DFAS CALCULATED RATE. I'M ASSUMING THE THE DFAS CALCULATED RATE IS INCLUDED BECAUSE SOME COUNCILOR ASKED FOR THAT INFORMATION BUT BY APPROVING THIS EC WE'RE ACTUALLY APPROVING THE 4.67% WHICH IS THE CALCULATED RATE UNDER O-26-03. CAN I GET CONFIRMATION FROM SOMEONE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, YOU ARE CORRECT. THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT AMOUNTS SHOWN. THE FIRST WAS WHAT DFAS WAS SHOWING OUR ASSUMPTIONS TO REACH IDOH BEFORE THIS NEW LAW CAME INTO EFFECT. WE WERE SHOWING WE WERE CLOSE TO THAT 5%. THEN, BASED ON THE ORDINANCE, WE GOT TO A RATE OF 4.67. YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT. I DO KNOW THAT THE EC ASKS FOR US TO RECEIPT THE 5%, WHICH I THINK THE THOUGHT WAS IT'S IN BETWEEN THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED WHAT WE WERE WORKING UNDER PREVIOUS TO THE CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT WAS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE CALCULATED AND IT'S CALCULATED AT 4.67%. SO, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO WHY WE WOULD BE BREAKING THE LAW WE JUST CRATED TO SAY IT'S GOING TO BE 5%. I THINK IT SHOULD BE 4.6-WHATEVER PERCENT WHICH IS WHAT THIS BODY, I BELIEVE UNANIMOUSLY, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE -- BUT PRETTY CLOSE TO UNANIMOUS, AT LEAST -- AGREED THE LEGISLATION WAS THE RIGHT TO CALCULATE IDOH. I BELIEVE THAT ACCEPTING THIS -- IT SHOWS A DIFFERENT NUMBER -- IT MEANS WE DIDN'T MEAN WHAT WE SAID. I CERTAINLY MEAN WHAT I SAID. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST HAD A QUESTION ON THE EC UNDER THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU PROVIDED FOR THE CALCULATED RATE ABOUT HOW YOU CALCULATED IT. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. FOR FY25 EXPENSES, IT SAYS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THE AMOUNT IS ZERO. CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THAT AMOUNT IS ZERO? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THE WAY WE DO THE CALCULATION IS GET THE MOST RECENTLY CLOSED FISCAL YEAR AND ANY OF THE CAPITAL EXPENSES UNDER THOSE CAPITAL FUNDS. SO, FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 IN THAT FUND, THERE WERE NO CAPITAL EXPENSES. >>COUN. ROGERS: WHAT KIND OF EXPENSES CAN GO UNDER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT? >> ANYTHING THAT IS A CAPITAL EXPENSE. IT'S CATEGORIZED AS A CAPITAL EXPENSE. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO INCLUDE WAGES, FRINGE BENEFITS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. JUST CAPITAL EXPENSES. >>COUN. ROGERS: GOT IT. SO, YOU INCLUDED ALSO A LIST OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT POSITIONS THAT YOU CAN POTENTIALLY USE ON A PROJECT. AND YOU USED THAT TO JUSTIFY -- IS THAT BASED ON ACTUAL PROJECTS OR IS THIS JUST A LIST OF ANY POSITION THAT YOU COULD RECOUP WAGES FOR UNDER IDOH? OR IS THIS -- I HOPE IT'S ON -- HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE COMING UP PLANNED IN THIS FISCAL YEAR BASED ON THE PROJECTS AND HERE ARE THE POSITIONS. NOT JUST A COMPLETE LIST OF ANY POSITIONS YOU COULD POTENTIALLY CHARGE US FOR IDOH. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE READ WAS IT WAS VERIFIED HOURS. YOU CAN'T DO THAT FOR A COMING YEAR. HOW WOULD YOU HAVE THAT? I JUST TOOK THE DESCRIPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE POSITIONS THAT COULD BE INCLUDED. AND THAT'S WHAT I INCLUDED. THE WAGES AND BENEFITS FOR THOSE POSITIONS. >>COUN. ROGERS: RIGHT. THAT'S HOW WE DO IT. WE LOOK AT THE PROJECT. LET ME FINISH WITHOUT INTERRUPTING. I'M GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING TO MY DOG WHO IS ALSO INTERRUPTING. I'M SORRY. WHAT I'M ASKING IS -- YOU ALREADY ANSWERED IT. THIS IS A COMPLETE LIST OF ALL OF THE POSITIONS THAT YOU COULD HAVE -- COULD BE CHARGED FOR IDOH IS WHAT I HEARD. BUT YOU'RE BASING THE PERCENTAGE ON THIS COMPLETE LIST. WHAT I THINK IS WE WOULD DO IT BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE PROJECTED AS FAR AS PROGRESS COMING UP FOR CAPITAL. AND THEN, USING THAT FOR THE CALCULATION. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT READS FORECASTING. IT READS VERIFIED HOURS. I DON'T HAVE THAT FOR A FUTURE YEAR. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THAT MUCH IS CLEAR. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? WITH THAT, MADAM CLERK, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE FOR APPROVAL OF EC-144. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. TELLES: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> FAILS ON A 2-7 VOTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW ON OC-7. RECOMMENDATION OF AWARD FOR ON-CALL PLANNING SERVICES FOR CITY COUNCIL. I MOVE APPROVAL AND THERE'S AN AMENDMENT IN YOUR iPAD. IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S A SECOND BY VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE. AND WE HAVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. ROGERS: I'M HAPPY TO START US OFF. I'D LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT ONE IN OUR PACKET. ON PAGE ONE, AMEND THE FIRST THREE PARAGRAPHS OF THE INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM AS FOLLOWS. ADDING A COMMA, BUT WE'RE ALSO ADDING IN THE RED PURSUANT TO PURCHASING REGULATIONS CONTAINED IN THE CITY'S PROCRURMENT MANUAL BEGINNING IN EARLY 2025. COUNCIL SERVICE WORKS WITH THE CITY'S PURCHASING TO COLLABORATE ON THIS REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH ALL CITY REQUIREMENTS. WE ALSO ADD THAT THE SOLICITATION WAS APPROVED BY CITY PURCHASING MANAGEMENT. AND POSTED PUBLICLY ON THE ePROCUREMENT ON JULY 3, 2025 ALL THE WAY TO OCTOBER 25, 2025. AND WE WOULD ADD AT THE BOTTOM THE PURCHASING PROCUREMENT ADMINISTRATOR, AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER APPROVED THIS AWARD. PAGE TWO, INTEROFFICE MINUTES. INSERT THE FOLLOWING. SCOPE OF THE RECOMMENDATION OF AWARD DOES NOT INCLUDE SERVICES THAT MAY REQUIRE PROCUREMENT THROUGH THE SELECTION ADVISORY COMMITTEE. PURSUANT TO THE RECOMMENDATION OF AWARD SHALL NOT INCLUDE THE TYPE OF PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECTURE, ENGINEERING, LANDSCAPE, OR OTHER RELATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT FALL UNDER THE PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS OF THE SELECTION ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THE PURPOSE OF THE AMENDMENT IS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND REGARDING THE PROCESS FOLLOWED TO ISSUE THE SOLICITATION AS DIRECTED BY THE CITY PURCHASING. THIS CLARIFIES THE SCOPE OF THE AWARD SO IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE THINGS I JUST MENTIONED AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE A PROCUREMENT THROUGH THE SELECTION ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR ORDINANCE. IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF COUNCIL SERVICES TO DETERMINE WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE, DETERMINE WHAT LEVEL OF QUALITY IS REQUIRED TO ADEQUATERY MEET NEEDS. AND CLEARLY AND COMPETENTLY COMMUNICATE NEEDS TO PURCHASINGS BY NEEDS OF DRAFTS SPECIFICATION AND ENTRY IN OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM. IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR CITY PURCHASING TO ASSIST COUNCIL SERVICES AND ANY DEPARTMENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF SPECIFICATIONS BY PROVIDING INFORMATION ABOUT PRODUCTS AND SERVICES AVAILABLE IN THE MARKET, REVIEW DRAFTS SPECIFICATIONS FOR COMPLETEMENT, AND COMPETITIVENESS AND RESTRICT COMPETITION OR APPEAR UNCLEAR OR UNFORESEEABLE, OR OTHER SPECIFICATIONS WHICH APPEAR TO REQUIRE REVISION. THIS IS ALL ABOUT BEING CLEAR ON WHO DOES WHAT. SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE ON THE PROJECTS AS IN THE ONE ALBUQUERQUE. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT 1. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE REGULAR STANDARD PROCEDURES AND CODIFYING THAT, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS WHAT WE ALREADY DO, RIGHT? >>COUN. ROGERS: MADAM PRESIDENT, CORRECT. WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK BEFORE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. THIS IS JUST CLARIFYING ALL THAT SO WE STILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME PROCUREMENT RULES. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I GUESS IT'S MORE OF A RHETORICAL QUESTION, BUT I WONDER IF WE'RE GOING TO END UP APPROVING THIS AMENDMENT AND MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE IT ON EVERY OTHER PIECE OF LEGISLATION MOVING FORWARD REGARDING ANY KIND OF CONTRACT AND PROCUREMENT PROCESS? IT WAS A RHETORICAL QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE MY STATEMENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, YEAH, I GUESS I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THE ADMIN WEIGHS IN. SOMETIMES ADDING SOME OF THIS LANGUAGE AND BACKGROUND AND SO-CALLED CLARIFICATION, WHICH IS GOOD, CAN CREATE SOME LIMITATIONS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I THINK THIS PROVIDES FOR US THE CLARITY RELATED TO FACT WHICH IS ARITICAL PART OF ANY ACQUISITION OF A CONTRACTOR THAT'S GOING TO DO ENGINEERING, ARCHITECTURE AND OTHER MATTERS THAT REQUIRE EXPERRESE, BUT ALSO PUT RISK AND LIABILITY FOR THE CITY. I THINK THIS LANGUAGE CLARIFIES THAT COUNCIL SERVICES HAS THE INTENT TO ENSURE THAT ANY OF THE CONTRACTS THAT ARE BEING ENTERED INTO WOULD ADHERE TO PROCUREMENT WHICH ALLOWS US TO BE REASSURED IT WOULD NOT BE IN THE CASE THAT WOULD REQUIRE -- TO GO THROUGH FAST SO WE CAN ENSURE THE CONTRACT IS ADHERED TO THAT PROCESS. I WOULD NOTE THAT THE MATTER IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO COUNCIL SERVICES STAFF THAT HAS THE INTENT TO WORK ON THIS WAY IS WE HAVE STANDARD LANGUAGE IN OUR CONTRACTS FOR THOSE SERVICES THAT ENSURE THAT IT PROTECTS THE CITY'S LIABILITY AND INSERT WE HAVE APPROPRIATE RELATIONSHIPS ARTICULATED AND LEGALLY ARTICULATED. AND DOING SO IN THOSE CONTRACTS WILL BE ESSENTIAL TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT THE CITY AS AN ENTERPRISE. >>COUN. LEWIS: IS THIS YOUR REQUESTED LANGUAGE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I HAVEN'T HAD ANY DISCUSSION WITH ANYONE ON THIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. THANKS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE'RE NOW ON FINAL ACTIONS. O- -- WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BILL AS AMENDED? THANK YOU. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE ON FINAL ACTIONS. BEFORE WE GO TO FINAL ACTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK AND RETURN AT 7:25. >>COUN. PEÑA: WELCOME BACK, EVERYONE. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE THE BREAK, WE'RE ON FINAL ACTIONS. AND WE HAVE O-14. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. O-14 ADOPTING ENHANCED SERVICE AND SAFETY ZONE ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE BETTER CITY SERVICE AND ENHANCE SAFETY PROVISIONS TO SUPPORT ECONOMIC VITALITY. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. PEÑA: MOTION, AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT FOR DO PASS. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO START OFF, THIS IS A SAFETY BILL THAT ADDRESSES A MYRIAD AMOUNT OF ISSUES WE'RE DEALING WITH. AS A CITY COUNCILOR, I THINK MY ROLE -- IT'S IN OUR -- HEALTHY COMMUNITIES SUPPORT OUR CONSTITUENTS WELFARE. HAVING ACCESS TO JOBS AND HOUSING AND HEALTH CARE, AND HAVING ACCESS TO GROCERIES AND TRANSPORTATION, ALL THESE THINGS. AND TRYING TO FIND A BALANCE IN ALL THAT IS NOT ALWAYS EASY. THIS IS PART OF THAT. TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. EARLIER, WE'RE HEARD FROM CHIEF BARKER THERE HAVE BEEN 49 SHOOTINGS DOWNTOWN IN THE LAST 29 MONTHS. THAT'S ALMOST TWO A MONTH. IT'S JUST UNCONSCIONABLE. I CAN'T TAKE AWAY GUNS BUT WE CAN KEEP SAFE. A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THIS IS AN ANTI-HOUSING BILL. I DISAGREE WITH VEHEMENTLY. THIS IS ABOUT ACCESS -- WE LOST A PHARMACY DOWNTOWN WHICH IS ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE. NOT JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY BUT THE UNHOUSED FOLKS WERE GETTING THEIR PRESCRIPTIONS THERE. I MET WITH FOLKS THAT SPOKE TODAY. IT ISN'T I DON'T WORK WITH FOLKS. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT SOME OF THE THINGS THIS BODY DONE AND IN MANY CASES THINGS I DID TO HELP THE UNHOUSED. IT'S NOT A SINGLE STORY THAT PEOPLE LIKE TO POINT OUT. IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE'VE SUPPORTED THE GATEWAY SYSTEM. WE'VE BEEN OUT TO THE GATEWAY WEST. WE COMPLETELY REHABILITATED THAT. WE HAVE BEEN IN GATEWAY GIBSON. WORKED ON THAT. COUNCILOR ROGERS AND MYSELF WORKED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON THE RECOVERY CENTER OFF OF I-25 TO GET THAT OPENED. THAT'S 55 BEDS. COUNCIL SERVICES DID AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME HELPING RECOVERY AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT CENTER THAT HELPED 250 PEOPLE, INCLUDING OPENING A NEW BRANCH IN DISTRICT TWO. STREET MEDICINE, WE'VEN FUNDED THAT AND PROVIDED THEM SUPPORT. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE HAVE GONE OUT MULTIPLE TIMES TO HELP OUT AND BE THERE WHEN THERE'S -- WHEN STREET MED AND ALL THE SERVICES ARE THEREBY THE ROCK. WE FUND ACS CONSISTENTLY. I'M OUT WITH ACS CONSISTENTLY. AND ACS IS DOWNTOWN. THERE'S TWO PUBLIC RESTROOMS DOWNTOWN THAT DIDN'T EXIST TWO YEARS AGO. I TAKE TONS OF GRIEF RESTROOMS. THESE BATHROOMS HAVE TO BE BOMB-PROOF AND PEOPLE ARE ANGRY. BUT IT'S CRUCIAL. WE HAVE TWO DOWNTOWN. HOUSING, LAST YEAR WE PULLED $7.5 MILLION FROM THE LEGISLATORS. THERE ARE 124 UNITS RIGHT NOW BEING BUILT DOWNTOWN FOR HOUSING. WE ALSO UPDATED THE PROCUREMENT CODE TO GET ALL THOSE OUT. WE CHANGED THE RULES AND WORKED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO GET THE DOLLARS OUT QUICKLY AND BUILD HOUSING QUICKLY BECAUSE HOUSING FIRST MATTERS. WE RUN BILLS TO ADDRESS AIR B&B AND RENTAL PROTECTION. WE'VE DONE A MYRIAD AMOUNT OF THINGS TO HELP THE UNSHELTERED. IS IT ENOUGH? NO. NOT EVEN KIND OF. TO SAY WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING IS A VERY BIG DISSERVICE TO ALL THE WORK WE'VE DONE. AND MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO. I JUST WANTED TO THROW OUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT BEING DONE. EVEN IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET WE'RE WORKING ON, I THINK THIS WILL BE THE MOST WE PUT IN TOWARD THE GATEWAY. $35 MILLION. THERE ARE SERVICES OUT THERE. THERE ARE SERVICES IN THE NONPROFIT NOT CONNECTED TO US THAT WE HELP AND WORK WITH CONSISTENTLY. AND THERE'S SERVICES HERE IN THE CITY. AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT THERE'S A TON OUT THERE. A LOT OF FOLKS ON THE STREET DO NOT ACCEPT THAT HELP. LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. SOMEONE JUST SITTING THERE -- SITTING RIGHT AT THE FRONT DOOR OF THE BUSINESS, IS AFFECTING THE BUSINESS. IT'S NOT HELPING THEM EITHER. I JUST WANT TO GET THAT OUT THE WAY. WITH THAT, MADAM PRESIDENT -- >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR BACA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THE AMENDMENTS FIRST OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT? >>COUN. BACA: I'D RATHER DO THE AMENDMENTS FIRST SO FOLKS KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SPEAKING ON. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. WE'RE ON TO THE AMENDMENTS. YOU HAVE A THROUGH F IN YOUR iPADS AND IN FRONT OF US, COUNCILORS. THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS FLOOR AMENDMENT A, WHICH WILL BECOME FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. TELLES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT A, WHICH WILL BE NUMBER ONE. IT CAN BE FOUND IN YOUR DRIVES. ON PAGE, FIVE, LINE 13-19 AMEND SECTION ONE AS FOLLOWS -- STRIKE-OUT PROHIBITION OF THE OBSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY WITHIN ENHANCED SERVICE AND SAFETY ZONE UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY PERMIT OR OTHER APPLICABLE LAW. IT IS UNLAWFUL TO SIT, SLEEP, LIE OR CAMP IN ANY PUBLIC STREET, ROAD, BIKE PATH OR ALLEY OR SIDE WALK WITHIN AN ENHANCED SERVICE OR SAFETY ZONE AS DESIGNATED PURSUANT TO THIS ORDINANCE IN A MANNER THAT IMPEDES PASSAGE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT. RENUMBER SECTIONS ACCORDINGLY. ON PAGE SEVEN, LINES THREE THROUGH SIX, AMEND, STRIKE PENALTY A FOR ANY PERSON THAT VIOLATES ANY ORDINANCE WITHIN THE SAFETY ZONE. THE CITY MAY IMPOSE MAXIMUM FEE OR PENALTY AS PROVIDED IN ROA1994-1-4-99 AND RENUMBER ACCORDINGLY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR TELLES. >>COUN. TELLES: I'M HAPPY -- BASICALLY, THIS AMENDMENT REMOVES ALL THE CRIMINAL PENALTIES FOR MONETARY SECTIONS FOR VIOLATIONS OF THIS ORDER. THE PURPOSE HERE IS -- IT'S PRETTY CLEAR WE'RE NOT GOING TO -- I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. BUT SUPPORTING BUSINESSES SHOULD NOT REQUIRE PUNISHING POVERTY. AND WE NEED TO STOP PRETENDING LIKE THOSE ARE THE ONLY OPTIONS AVAILABLE. THIS AMENDMENT IN PARTICULAR REMOVES THE PROVISION THAT MAKES IT UNLAWFUL TO SIT, SLEEP, LIE, CAMP -- IT ALSO REMOVES THE CONTRADICTION OF EXISTING ORDINANCES THAT DON'T ALLOW THAT OR THAT ALLOW THAT AT THE MOMENT. AS WELL AS ASSOCIATED PENALTIES. WHAT THIS DOES IS ELAMEINATES CREATION OF ENHANCED ENFORCEMENT ZONES THAT COULD CRIMINALIZE POVERTY OR DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS. IT'S GOING TO INSTEAD ENSURE THE ORDINANCE FOCUSES ON IMPROVING CONDITIONS THROUGH SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE RATHER THAN PUNITIVE MEASURES. WHEN WE CONTINUE TO ACT WITH PUNITIVE MEASURES, WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST COSTING OURSELVES MORE MONEY. BECAUSE WE'RE, ESSENTIALLY, ISSUING FEES AND FINES AND THAT LEADS TO ARRESTS OR WARRANTS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY THEM ANYWAY. AND THAT CAUSES MORE WORK, MORE CAPACITY CONCERNS. IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING TO ACTUALLY ALLEVIATE THE ISSUE WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE HERE. WHICH IS HELP OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. WE LITERALLY JUST AN HOUR AND A HALF AGO ISSUED A PROCLAMATION THAT RECOGNIZED NATIONAL FOSTER FAMILY APPRECIATION MONTH. AND NOW, WE WANT TO PREEMPTIVELY PUNISH THOSE SAME KIDS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT ONE IN FOUR FOSTER CHILDREN WHO AGE OUT OF THE SYSTEM WILL BECOME HOMELESS IN TWO YEARS. ALL WE'RE SAYING IS WE SUPPORT YOU FOSTER KIDS. WE LOVE YOU. WE WANT TO BE WITH YOU, BUT IN TWO YEARS AFTER YOU'VE AGED OUT OF THE SYSTEM WE'RE GOING TO THROW YOU IN JAIL BECAUSE YOU'RE SITTING OUTSIDE. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE RECONCILE THAT AS A COUNCIL. TO SIT UP HERE AND LITERALLY CONTRADICT THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING. I WANT TO HELP SMALL BUSINESS. WE DO NOT DO THAT BY CRIMINALIZING PEOPLE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >> FAILS ON A 3-6 VOTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: NOW, WE'RE ON FLOOR AMENDMENT E, WHICH WILL BE LABELED FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. THIS IS -- IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S -- >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT. IF WE CAN GO BACK TO B. I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY'RE OUT OF ORDER. >>COUN. PEÑA: ACTUALLY, THE STAFF PUT THEM TOGETHER IN RELATION TO -- IT SEEMS THIS WOULDN'T BE NECESSARY IF THIS ONE PASSED. WE'RE JUST DOING THE COMPARABLE AMENDMENTS. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: ALL RIGHT. I WILL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, WHICH WILL BE E. PAGE FIVE, LINES 13-19 DELETE THE WORD SIT. I'LL MOVE THAT. THIS IS REALLY TO REMOVE THE SIT LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE. I WENT DOWN TO LOOKY LIEU AT THE LINDY'S DINER. I HURT MY KNOW. I SAT DOWN. I DON'T THINK THE INTENT HERE IS TO SAY IF I SIT DOWN BECAUSE MY KNEE HURTS BUT I WANT TO GO WALK AROUND DOWNTOWN -- THIS IS A $500 FINE OR 30 DAYS IN JAIL. THERE'S JUST HOPING WE COULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO SIT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA WITHOUT A 30-DAY IN JAIL OR $500 FINE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR TELLES FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. DID YOU WANT TO CLOSE, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: URGE YOUR SUPPORT IN LETTING ME SIT WHEN I NEED TO WHEN I'M INJURED. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> FAILS ON A 3-6 VOTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: I THINK THAT'S INCORRECT. 4-5 VOTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE ON FLOOR AMENDMENT F IN YOUR PACKET. AND IT WILL BECOME FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. THIS IS ON PAGE FIVE, LINE 13. CHANGING IT IS UNLAWFUL TO NO PERSON SHALL. AND ON PAGE SEVEN, LINE THREE, AMENDING THAT SECTION TO SAY PROVIDED A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER SHALL FIRST VERIFY A WRITTEN WARNING IS ISSUED OTHERWISE CRIMINAL TRESPASS NOTIFICATION TO A -- OR CONDUCTING ARRESTS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR TELLES FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS IS -- I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE SPONSOR ON THIS. I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND WHERE HE IS HEADING TO, BUT I ALSO HAVE HEARD FROM MANY, MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS ONLY ABOUT UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE. I THINK THIS IS A NICE MIDDLE GROUND. THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'VE USED IN OTHER ORDINANCES. FOR EXAMPLE, OUR ARROYO LANGUAGE SO THAT IF SOMEBODY IS IN AN ARROYO AND THEY NEED TO MOVE WE DON'T ALLOW ARRESTS OR CITATION ON THE FIRST TIME THEY SAY TO MOVE. IF THEY DON'T MOVE, THEN THEY CAN HAVE A CITATION OR AN ARREST. THAT WAS LANGUAGE WE WORKED OUT WEAN WE WERE PASSING THAT AARIO SAFETY BILL. I THINK THAT'S A MIDDLE GROUND. THE SPONSOR THOUGHT THIS WAS NOT GOING TOO FAR FROM WHERE HE WAS TRYING TO GO. AGAIN, TRYING TO MAKE IT CLEAR IF LAW ENFORCEMENT TELLS YOU THAT YOU NEED TO MOVE, YOU DO NEED TO MOVE, BUT YOU WILL NOT BE FACED WITH A $500 FINE OR 30 DAYS IN JAIL WITHOUT ANY WARNING. THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS. I WOULD URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. QUICK QUESTION FOR OUR LEGAL. IF YOU CHANGE THE PART -- THE FIRST PARAGRAPH UNLAWFUL TO NO PERSON SHALL, DOES THAT TAKE AWAY LAW ENFORCEMENT'S ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BACA, NO. IT'S MOSTLY JUST A NOMENCLATURE CHANGE. IT'S INDICATING PROHIBITION. >>COUN. BACA: I DID SPEAK WITH COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. AND WITH SOME FOLKS WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE. I THINK THIS IS A FAIR MIDDLEGROUND. I SUPPORT THIS. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE SPONSOR FOR WORKING WITH ME ON THIS TO TRY TO FIND A MIDDLE GROUND. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. BRIC ROLL CALL [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. THAT AMENDMENT PASSES. THAT WAS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. NOW WE'RE ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. LABELED B IN YOUR PACKET. COUNCILOR TELLES. >>COUN. TELLES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT B. FOUR. THANK YOU. ON PAGE SEVEN, LINE SEVEN, ADD A NEW SUBSECTION TO SECTION ONE AS FOLLOWS. ENFORCEMENT THIS SECTION SHALL WE ENFORCED THROUGH NON-PUNITIVE SERVICE ORIENT ASKED ADMINISTRATIVE RESPONSES TO BE DETERMINED BY CITY ADMINISTRATION ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. NO VIOLATION OF THE SECTION SHALL RESULT IN CHARGES CIVIL FINES OR MONTEAR PENALTIES IN THE EVENT THE VIOLATION THE CITY MAY ISSUE WRITTEN NOTICE, VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE, CONNECTION TO PROEPS SERVICES INCLUDING ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES OR SHELTER SERVICES OR INITIATE ACTION RELATED TO CITY MANAGED PROPERTY OR FACILITIES. NOTHING IN THIS SECTION SHALL BE CONTRUED TO MANAGE OR REGULATE OR RESTRICT USE OF CITY PROPERTY TO ENSURE SAFETY AND INTENDED USE OF THIS PROPERTY. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT B NOW FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? >>COUN. TELLES: JUST WANT TO -- THIS AMENDMENT REALLY JUST REPLACES PUNITIVE WITH A SERVICE-BASED APPROACH. DIRECTING THE CITY TO RESPOND THROUGH NOTICE, VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE, CONNECTION WITH SERVICES. WHILE SHIFTING THE RESPONSE MUD MAUDAL TOWARD OUTCOMES THAT ARE MORE LIKELY TO IMPROVE STABILITY. I MOVE -- I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> FAILS ON A 4-5 VOTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW ON TO -- LABELED FLOOR AMENDMENT C, WHICH WILL BECOME FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. COUNCILOR TELLES. >>COUN. TELLES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. ON PAGE SEVEN, LINE SEV, ADD NEW SUBSECTION TO SECTION ONE. QUARTERLY AND ENFORCEMENT REPORTING ON A QUARTERLY BASIS THE CITY SHALL REPORT ON THE ACTIONS, INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES, NUMBER OF ENGAGEMENTS, VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE, RATE, SERVICE REFERRALS AND CHANGES IN SAFETY INDICATORS WITHIN EFSZ, THE REPORT SHALL BE PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL IN THE FORM OF AN EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NOW NUMBER FIVE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COUNCILOR TELLES. >>COUN. TELLES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS AMENDMENT REALLY JUST REQUIRES QUARTERLY REPORTING. WE TALK A LOT ABOUT GOALS AND OBJECTIVES RELATED TO BUDGET. AND WHAT THOSE OUTCOMES ARE DOING. AND WHETHER WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE ON THE COUNCIL IS ACTUALLY MAKING AN IMPACT TO THE IMPROVEMENT OF LIVES IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THIS IS A -- THIS AMENDMENT WILL ENSURE WE CAN CAN ACTUALLY CAPTURE DATA THAT CAN INFORM THOSE OUTCOMES. THE REPORTING IS DISTINCT FROM ANNUAL SERVICE REPORTS. AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. -- >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M SORRY. NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> JUST TO CLARIFY, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, YOUR VOTE WAS IN FAVOR? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >> IT PASSES ON A 5-4 VOTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS LABELED FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER D IN YOUR PACKET. COUNCILOR TELLES. >>COUN. TELLES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. ON PAGE FIVE, LINE 20 EDIT SUBSECTION 9-23-8 TO SUBSECTION ONE AS FOLLOWS. DESIGNATION PROCESS. THE MAYOR MAY DESIGNATE AN ENHANCED SERVICE AND SAFETY ZONE BY SUBMITTING AN EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. THE DESIGNATION SHALL INCLUDE A REPORT IN WHICH THE MAYOR ESTABLISHES THE FOLLOWING, THE PURPOSE FOR THE CREATION OF THE ZONE, FINDINGS THAT THE CRITERIA IN SECTION 9-23-5 HAVE BEEN SATISFIED, THE ENHANCED CITY SERVICES UNDER 9-23-6 SHALL BE IMPLEMENTED AND ITEMIZED FUNDING PLAN UTILIZING EXISTING DEPARTMENTAL RESOURCES AND INDICATING ANY ANTICIPATED ADDITIONAL FUNDING OR REALLOCATED FUNDING NEEDS FOR THE TERM OF THE ZONE. NOTING SPECIFICALLY ONE, INCREASE IN DEPARTMENTAL RESOURCES REQUIRED FOR OPERATION AND STAFFING REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT THE ENHANCED SERVICES IN A ZONE. AND TWO, THE EXTENT TO WHICH IF ANY SERVICE REDUCTION MAY OCCUR, OTHER AREAS DUE TO REALLOCATION TO A ZONE, SUMMARY OF PROPOSED TARGETED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ACCOMPANIED BY A PROPOSED FUNDING PLAN, DESCRIPTION AND A MAP OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THE ZONE AND A REAL PROPERTY TO BE INCLUDED. ANALYSIS OF PROPOSED EFSZ SITE FOR BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ELIGIBILITY. INCLUDING EFFORTS MADE TO ENGAGE PROPERTY HOLDERS AND STAKEHOLDERS IN A SITE TO CREATE A BID RATHER THAN ESTABLISH AN EFSZ. THE ANALYSIS SHALL INCLUDE A DETAILED REPORT OF THE EFFORTS MADE TO ENGAGE PROPERTY OWNERS AND STAKEHOLDERS AND AN ANALYSIS OF WHETHER THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A BID IS FEASIBLE OR HAS BEEN REASONABLY CONSIDERED SUCH OTHER INFORMATION NECESSARY FOR THE PROPER EVALUATION OF THE DESIGNATION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. COUNCILOR TELLES. >>COUN. TELLES: THANK YOU. REALLY, THIS AMENDMENT DOES TWO THINGS. IT CLARIFIES THERE'S A FUNDING PLAN AND THAT IT MUST INCLUDE DETAILS OF DEPARTMENTAL RESOURCES, INCREASES FOR FIRST RESPONDERS, NOTABLY POLICE, FIRE, AND ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY, NOT LIMITED. AND SOLID WASTE. SECOND, THE AMENDMENT ALSO MANDATES THAT EFSD SITE MUST INCLUDE ANALYSIS OF THIS SITE ELIGIBILITY FOR A BID INCLUDING EFFORTS TO ENGAGE PROPERTY OWNERS AND STAKEHOLDERS IN A PROPOSED EFSZ DECREE. THIS BID -- BASICALLY WE HAVE THIS PLAN IS TO LET US KNOW IF WE CAN AFFORD THIS. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE DEALING WITH A BUDGET CRUNCH RIGHT NOW AND WE ARE -- MIGHT BE ENGAGING IN AN UNFUNDED MANDATE WITH THIS AS WELL AS UNFUNDED CAPACITY WITH DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE TO RESPOND TO THESE. WE NEED A BASELINE TO -- REGARDING ENHANCED SERVICE LEVELS. WE HAVE TO KNOW WHETHER RESOURCES ARE DIVERTED PROMOTER AREAS. WE HAVE TO KNOW A BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT OR SIMILAR SELF-FUNDED APPROACH IS FEASIBLE BEFORE WE INCUR ANOTHER SUBSIDY BY THE CITY TO PAY FOR THIS. THIS ENSURES THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO CREATE AN UNFUNDED MANDATE OR UNMANAGEABLE OBLIGATION AND IS USING THE MOST APPROPRIATE OF SUSTAINABLE TOOLS TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE AREA. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY IN A BUDGET CRUNCH. AND WE HAVE A TOOL TO ACHIEVE WHAT THIS BILL IS ALREADY TRYING TO ACHIEVE THROUGH THE BID PROCESS. THIS IS STATE LAW. WE ALLOW BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN A DEFINED AREA TO ORGANIZE, SELF-ASSESS AND FUND ENHANCED SERVICES SUCH AS CLEANING, SAFETY, ECONOMIC ACTIVATION. THEY'RE ALREADY STRUCTURED AND GOVERNED AND SUPPORTED WITH FUNDING STREAMS. WE TALK A LOT ABOUT EFISHANIES AND EFFECTIVENESS AND DUPLICATIVE EFFORTS IN OUR CITY. ALL THIS BILL DOES IS DUPLICATE EFFORTS, REDUCE EFFICIENCIES, REDUCE EFFECTIVENESS. WHEN WE PROMISE MORE SERVICES WITHOUT CAPACITY, SOMETHING ELSE HAS GOT TO GIVE. RESOURCES ARE GOING TO BE SHIFTED, NEIGHBORHOODS ARE GOING TO BE COMPETING. THE CITY IS GOING TO END UP REDISTRIBUTING SCARCITY RATHER THAN SOLVING PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT SIMPLY ABOUT COMPASSION, THOUGH I TRY TO ROOT LOT OF MY DECISIONS IN COMPASSION WITH EFFECTIVENESS AND RESPONSIBILITY. I THINK A LOT ABOUT WE HAVE SOME FOLKS HERE ON THE DAIS WHO ARE -- THEIR DECISIONS ARE MOVED BY THEIR FAITH. AND SO ARE MINE. I THINK ABOUT THIS BILL WHEN IT COMES TO INEFFECTIVE OR EMPTY ACTION, I THINK ABOUT JAMES 2-15-16. IF YOU SAY GO IN PEACE BUT DO NOTHING, WHAT GOOD IS IT? IF WE RESPOND TO REAL NEED WITHOUT ACTION, WHAT GOOD IS THAT? INEFFECTIVE POLICY DOES NOT EQUAL MEANINGFUL ACTION. THIS IS ABOUT SHIFTING BURDENS UNFAIRLY. I THINK ABOUT MATTHEW 23-4 THEY TIE UP HEAVY BURDENS AND LIE THEM ON PEOPLE'S SHOULDERS BUT THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO LIFT A FINGER TO MOVE THEM. WE SHOULD NOT PLACE ADDITIONAL BURDENS ON PEOPLE WITHOUT A PATH TO LIFT THEM OUT. I SUPPORT BUSINESS. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR. I UNDERSTAND AND I HEAR YOUR FRUSTRATION. I GET WHAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING. YOU DO DESERVE CLEAN, SAFE VIBRANT CORRIDORS. WE ALL DO. WE DESERVE A CITY THAT SHOWS UP ASK DELIVERS. BUT WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES WHY DO WE KEEP DEFAULTING TO PUNISHMENT AS A PRIMARY SOLUTION? WHY DO WE SPEND MEETING AFTER MEETING TALKING ABOUT COLLABORATION, RESPECT AND SHARED RESPONSIBILITY AND ADVANCE POLICIES THAT DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY AND CREATE NEW PROBLEMS INSTEAD OF SOLVING THEM? THIS ORDINANCE FRAMES PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES AGAINST EACH OTHER AS IF THEY'RE OPPOSING SIDES. WHEN WE'RE ALL PART OF THE SAME COMMUNITIES AND ECOSYSTEM. WE SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO CHOOSE BETWEEN SUPPORTING BUSINESSES AND PROTECTING OUR MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS. WE CAN AND MUST DO BOTH. I SUPPORT OUR BUSINESSES, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN I SUPPORT PUNISHING PEOPLE. WE CANNOT KEEP SAYING WE VALUE OUR COMMUNITY. THIS IS NOT A CHOICE BETWEEN BUSINESSES AND PEOPLE. IT'S ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE WILLING TO DO THE HARDER WORK FOR REAL SOLUTIONS. OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO KEEP DEFAULTING TO THE EASIEST ONES? QUITE FRANKLY, THE LEAST EFFECTIVE. THANK YOU. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. THAT WAS THE OPEN. THAT WAS THE OPENING. THERE ARE SEVERAL COUNCILORS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: WE'RE NOT DEFAULTING ON THIS. WE'VE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME ON THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT. THE LIST OF WHICH I JUST WENT OVER WHEN WE STARTED THIS DISCUSSION. I VERY MUCH WOULD INVITE COUNCILOR TELLES TO SPEND AN AFTERNOON WITH ME DOWNTOWN. OR COUNCILOR CHAMPINE JOINED ME MULTIPLE TRIPS TO WORK WITH OUR ACS IN OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO ACTUALLY GIVE SOME OF THIS HELP. PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT UNFUNDED. WE'VE INCREASED THAT BUDGET FCH IF IT'S ONE THING WE'VE INCREASED, IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY. WHETHER IT'S POLICE, ACS, OR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, ALL OF WHICH WORK ON THIS PROBLEM. AND AS TO THE BID, THAT IS NOT THE PURPOSE OF THE BID. THERE IS TWO BIDS IN OUR CITY TRYING TO FORM. I SAY TRYING, BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING FOR TWO YEARS. BOTH WANT FUNDING FROM THE CITY AND COUNTY. MOREOVER, IF YOU'RE ASKING PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS OR BUSINESSES TO FUND PUBLIC SAFETY, WE'RE TAXING THEM TWICE. THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. AND NOW WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO IT AGAIN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT UP TO THAT JOB. I'M SORRY. I AM UP TO THAT TASK. OF COURSE, WHEN WE ONLY TALK ABOUT THE HOUSING, WE IGNORE THE OTHER ISSUES. THE LOSS OF PHARMACY. THE CREATION OF FOOD DESERTS. I'M SORRY. I ACTUALLY HAVE CALLED IN MULTIPLE SHOOTINGS. I'VE GONE OUT THERE WHEN SOMEONE IS SHOT. I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE TO HELP WOMEN THAT ARE ASSAULTED ADMIDNIGHT DOWNTOWN WHO REFUSE SERVICES AFTER WE'VE HELPED THEM. THERE'S NO LACK OF -- THE LACK OF COMPASSION IS INDIFFERENCE BY LETTING PEOPLE SIT OUT THERE AND DO NOTHING. LETTING THEM EAT THROUGH GARBAGE CAN AND LETTING THEM DO DRUGS AND SUFFER AND COMMIT SLOW SUICIDE. WE'RE ESSENTIALLY CREATING A CLASS OF PERMANENTLY DISABLED PEOPLE IF WE DO NOTHING. I DO NOT DO NOTHING. I'M OVER THAT. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR TOO MANY YEARS. WELL BEFORE I WAS A COUNCILOR. WHEN I GO HOME TONIGHT, LIKE MOST PEOPLE, I WILL STILL BE DEALING WITH THIS PROBLEM. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT SOMETHING COMING AT ME NOW WHICH HAS HAPPENED TWICE IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS. I'LL POTENTIALLY HAVE TO HELP SOMEBODY AGAIN. THERE WAS A WOMAN DEFECATING IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE WITHOUT CLOTHES ON. EVEN THOUGH WE WORKED TOGETHER TO PUT TWO PUBLIC RESTROOMS DOWNTOWN. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD. EVERYBODY HAS BEEN WORKING HARD ON AN IMPOSSIBLE ISSUE. TO SAY WE'RE DEFAULTING, THAT IS, I'M SORRY, THAT IS NOT THE TRUTH. THAT IS NOT THE TRUTH FOR ANYONE AT THIS TABLE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. VICE PRESIDENT CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I HAVE ONE -- I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS. MADAM CAO, IS THIS A SEPARATION OF POWERS ISSUE? SPECIFICALLY, FOR SECTION FOUR. INCREASING DEPARTMENT RESOURCE AND ALL THE DATA REQUIRED BEING ASKED OF US. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THIS SPECIFIC SECTION FOR THIS AMENDMENT -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. AS MUCH AS IT DETAILS ON REPORT ING BACK WHAT, BUT WE HAVE A CONVERSATION THIS IS ISN'T A GOTCHA MOMENT. WE DO THE OPERATIONS. THE CHIEF DOESN'T COME TELL US. THEY TELL YOU. YOU COME AND TELL US HOW THE OVERALL PICTURE. IS THIS BLEEDING INTO THAT ISSUE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I THINK WE CAN MAKE AN ARGUMENT, BUT I THINK BECAUSE IT'S ASKING US TO REPORT TO YOU ALL HOW WE INTEND TO DO THE WORK AND WHERE THOSE RESOURCES ARE COMING FROM, IT WOULD PROBABLY PASS THAT TEST THAT I'M REPORTING IT TO YOU. RATHER THAN YOU DIRECTING IT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. MADAM PRESIDENT, I'LL KEEP YOU ON THE MIC FOR A MINUTE. HOW MUCH DO WE SPEND ON GATEWAY A YEAR? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I KNOW -- IT'S NOT A TRICK QUESTION. I THINK WE PROVIDE CONTRACTS ACROSS ALL OF THOSE. WE'VE QUANTIFIED THAT TO BE PREVIOUSLY -- ACROSS ALL OF THE CONTRACTS EQUALS TO $25 MILLION WITH -- WITH OUR ROUGH ESTIMATE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: AND WE'VE SPENT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS ON THE PROGRAMS AND BUILDINGS AND CAPITAL SIDE OF IT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, YES. WE'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL INVESTMENTS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ACROSS $83-87 MILLION OF OUR TOTAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ACROSS THE ENTIRE GATEWAY SYSTEM. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, CORRECT ME -- AGREE WITH THIS OR NOT, I REMEMBER ACS COMING IN ON THURSDAY DURING BUDGET SAID 4,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE. TRANSPORTING A 1,000 PEOPLE A MONTH. 1600 DURING THE WINTER SEASON. ELEAVEIATING CALLS FOR SERVICE FROM APD. CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, CORRECT. IF I CAN CORRECT THE RECORD. THEY TRANSPORTED 6,000 INDIVIDUALS DURING THE SEASON. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: AND THEY CONTRACTED SEVERAL THOUSAND A MONTH, IS THAT CORRECT? WHAT DO THEY DO? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I THINK WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS ABOUT MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS. WE WORK ACROSS A SMATTERING OF DEPARTMENTS. ACS, AFR, APD, SOLID WASTE, HHH. TO ENSURE WE ARE PROVIDING ALL OF THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND ACCESS EVERY SINGLE TIME WE HAVE AN INTERACTION. THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM OFFERING SHELTER TO OFFERING TRANSPORT. OFFERING THE ABILITY TO HAVE YOUR ITEMS STORED IF YOU NEED THEM STORED. AND WE HAVE A VERY FOCUSED PROCESS IN TERMS OF ENSURING WE'RE OFFERING THOSE LAYERS THAT INCLUDES PROVIDING NOTICES TO ANYONE AS WELL AS GIVING THEM THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITIES TO MOVE AS WELL. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, CAO, HOW MUCH DO WE SPEND ON HOUSING VOUCHERS THROUGH HHH ANNUALLY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I WANT TO GET YOU AN ACCURATE NUMBER. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YOU CAN GUESS. >> SOMEWHERE AROUND $11 MILLION ACROSS ALL CONTRACTS AND DIRECT FUNDING. >> HE'S SHAKING HIS HEAD. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: HOW MUCH DO WE SPEND ON PORTABLE BATHROOMS. THE FANCY TRUCK BATHROOMS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I'D HAVE TO ASK COUNCILOR ROGERS. I DON'T REMEMBER THE FINAL NUMBER. ANYBODY? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KNOWS THAT. WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TO PURCHASE THESE FOR THE PUBLIC TO USE THAT CAN BE MOVED THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED IT, CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THE ONES I WAS SPEAKING TO ARE THE ONES THAT COUNCILOR ROGERS PURCHASED FOR HER DISTRICT. PREVIOUSLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE SPENT ON MOBILE RESTROOMS. THOSE RESTROOMS WE INSTALLED DOWNTOWN PORT-A-LOO, THE ONE ON CIVIC PLAZA IS $750,000 FOR ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIRED FOR THAT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION AROUND -- SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUNDING THIS PROGRAM. AND MAYBE THIS IS FOR THE SPONSOR. DURING YOUR RESEARCH DO WE KNOW WHAT IT WOULD COST TO OPERATIONALLIZE THIS? >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. DESPITE EVERYONE CALLING THIS A DOWNTOWN BILL IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A DOWNTOWN BILL. THIS BILL ALLOWS THE MAYOR TO DESIGNATE CERTAIN AREAS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY THAT HE DEEMS NEED THAT EXTRA SUPPORT. WITH COUNCIL OVER SIGHT. WHAT IS NEEDED FOR DOWNTOWN IS DIFFERENT THAN THE FAIRGROUNDS, WHICH WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM SOMEWHERE ON CENTRAL AND COORS OR SAN MATEO AND I-40. THOSE ARE ALL VERY DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND SCENARIOS. THE COST IS DEPENDENT ON THE DESIGNATION AND THE BILL HAS ALL THE DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT ARE REQUIRED. AND WHAT'S COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A SET COST? NO. THE COUNCIL HAS OVERSIGHT OVER THAT. AND IT IS SITUATIONAL DEPENDENT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BACA. OBVIOUSLY, YOUR INTENTIONS FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD ARE HOPING YOU COME DOWNTOWN. BASED ON THAT, IS THERE ANY IDEA WHAT THIS WOULD COST CODE ENFORCEMENT? ESPECIALLY IF THIS IS GERMANE TO THE AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. NOT THE WHOLE BILL BECAUSE THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ADD TO THAT COST. I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A BASELINE IDEA FOR COST TO CODE ENFORCEMENT? >>COUN. BACA: I THINK CODE ENFORCEMENT IS PROBABLY ZERO SINCE THIS ISN'T A BUILDING STRUCTURE. IN TERMS OF EXTRA COSTS, IT DEPENDS. WITHIN DOWNTOWN, WE ALREADY HAVE QUITE A FEW POLICE OFFICERS AT NIGHT AND DURING THE DAY. THIS JUST GIVES THEM THE TOOLS THEY NEED. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THE BARS GET OUT AT NIGHT, A LOT OF FOLKS JUST WANT TO BE RIGHT THERE HANGING OUT AND TALKING. AS YOU LOOK AT THE STATS, THAT'S WHEN THE SHOOTINGS AND FIGHTS OCCUR. WE HAVE ADEQUATE POLICE OFFICERS. THEY JUST NEED THE TOOLS TO GET FOLKS HOME SAFELY. IN THE CASE OF DOWNTOWN, COST MIGHT BE MINIMAL. WHEREAS, THAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FROM SAN MATEO AND CENTRAL WHERE WE DON'T HAVE POLICE OFFICERS REGULARLY. I'M ASSUMING THAT. I WOULD NEVER PUT MY OPINION TOWARDSES ANOTHER COUNCILOR'S DISTRICT. I'M SPEAKING IN MY DISTRICT AND HOW I WOULD LIKE TO TO BE APPROACHED. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BACA. I THINK THAT'S THE HARD PART FROM READING THE BILL IS IT'S NOT CLEAR WHO WOULD ENFORCE IT. YOU'RE SAYING APD. MAYBE ACS. MAYBE METRO SECURITY. IT COULD BE CONTRACT SECURITY GUARDS. I THINK THAT'S HARD FOR ME ON THE ENFORCEMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL OF THE THINGS IN THIS AMENDMENT. IF THIS PASSES WHO WOULD ENFORCE ALL OF THOSE THING? >>COUN. BACA: THIS AMENDMENT IS ADDING AN ENORMOUS STUFF NOT IN THE BILL. THE BILL ITSELF LAYS OUT THE BUDGET. THAT HAS TO COME BEFORE US TO DECIDE. IN TERMS OF THIS AMENDMENT, THIS IS ONEROUS AND TIME-CONSUMING. THE BILL ITSELF IS STRAIGHTFORWARD. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: IS THAT IT, COUNCILOR ROGERS? OKAY. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THIS TO SAY ON THE NUMBER SEVEN ON THIS AMENDMENT. NUMBER FOUR ON THIS AMENDMENT DOES MAKE LOT OF SENSE TO ME. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THROUGH THAT. SAYING THAT WHEN A PLAN COMES BEFORE US FOR DESIGNATION, I THINK WE CAN ALL PROBABLE GUESS THE FIRST ONE IS DOWNTOWN AND IT SHOULD BE. NO ARGUMENT THERE. I BELIEVE FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER TO APPROVE THE PLAN, WE SHOULD HAVE SOME IDEA OF THE COST AND HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SAME THINGS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. SO, I DON'T KNOW THIS. I WOULD NEED TO TALK TO THE DIRECTORS. IF THEY'RE GOING TO GET HIGH FREQUENCY STREET CLEANING AND MAINTENANCE SERVICES AND THE DMD BUDGET IS SET, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR STREET CLEANING IN OTHER AREAS OF TOWN? NOT SAYING THAT IS NOT A TRADEOFF I'M WILLING TO MAKE, BUT I THINK THAT HAVING THAT KIND OF INFORMATION IN WHAT'S SENT TO COUNCIL TO CONSIDER WOULD BE IMPORTANT. THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT SOLID WASTE, DOES IT IMPACT PICK-UP IN MY AREA? IT'S GOING TO USE MORE APD OFFICERS. DOES THAT MEAN I GET FEWER APD OFFICERS MY AREA. IT MIGHT BE A TRADEOFF BUT CAN WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSED IN THE PLAN DISCUSS WOULD US? SAME WITH ACS. CLEAN CITIES. ALL OF US HAVE NEED FOR CLEAN CITIES WORK. HOW MUCH WOULD IT TAKE TO HAVE THEM DOING ALL OF THIS WORK IN DOWNTOWN AND HOW WOULD IT IMPACT US TO MAKE THOSE KINDS OF DECISIONS? SAME THING FOR ENCAMPMENT CLEANUP AND CODE ENFORCEMENT. AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING I WOULD NOT VOTE TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT CAME TO DOWNTOWN BECAUSE I THINK DOWNTOWN HAS UNIQUE PROBLEMS. BUT I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT HAVING SOME IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE APPROVING AND I THINK THAT NUMBER FOUR IN THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THAT UP FRONT PLANNING SO WE COULD HAVE AN IDEA OF THE TRADEOFF AND AN IDEA OF WHAT SPECIFICALLY WE ARE PRIORITIZING AND PLANNING. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS -- THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE ABOUT FOSTER CHILDREN ON THE STREETS. I WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT WE JUST OPENED A YOUTH SHELTER FOR THAT VERY THING. AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE ON THE STREETS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR TELLES TO CLOSE. >>COUN. TELLES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO REMIND FOLKS HERE WE ALREADY HAVE A PROCESS THAT ALLOWS US TO -- THROUGH THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT ACT, TO PROMOTE AND RESTORE THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF AREAS WITHIN MUNICIPALITIES BY ALLOWING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS. WHAT THESE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE DO IS PROVIDE SAFE AND CLEAN SERVICES, MARKETING AND SPECIAL PROJECTS, MANAGEMENT AND ADVOCACY. THEY ALREADY -- THE BID WILL ENHANCE SERVICES AND SUPPORT IMPROVEMENT AS DETERMINED THROUGH A PLAN. INITIAL SERVICES WILL SIT WITHIN THOSE CATEGORIES. WHAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS -- WHAT THESE SMALL BUSINESSES NEED -- WE ALREADY HAVE AN OPTION FOR THEM TO GET THAT. SAFE AND CLEAN SERVICES IS THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THE BID. INCLUDING MAINTENANCE. ALMOST THREE TIMES THE SIZE OF THE EXISTING PROGRAM WILL PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE SIDEWALK SWEEPING, SCRUBBING, POWERWASHING, LITERAL EMOVEAL, LAND SCALE MAINTENANCE. IT PROVIDES HOSPITALITY SAFETY AMBASSADOR PROGRAM THAT CAN HAVE SAFETY ESCORTS, AND OUTREACH AND CONNECTION TO LOCAL SERVICE PROVIDERS FOR DOWNTOWN'S UNSHELTERED POPULATION AND MANAGEMENT OF QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES. WE HAVE A PROCESS. THIS IS DUEPLICATIVE. WE DON'T NEED THIS. BUSINESSES CAN GET THIS -- ALL OF THESE SERVICES NOW. IT IS A PRIVATE SECTOR INITIATIVE GOVERNED BY RATE PAYERS AND DESIGNED TO IMPROVE THE ENVIRONMENT. IT'S NOT CHARGING A TAX TWICE. IT'S ALREADY FUNDED THROUGH OUR GENERAL FUND. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY DO. THE OTHER ISSUE -- THE OTHER POLICY ISSUE IS IF THIS IS NOT JUST FOR DOWNTOWN, WHY DID WE ONLY GET DOWNTOWN SHOOTING CRIME DATA? WHAT ARE THE EQUITY ISSUES HERE? I DON'T HAVE SHOOTING CRIME DATA FOR MY DISTRICT. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PRIORITIZE THOSE RESOURCES. I GET THAT DOWNTOWN IS UNIQUELY IMPACTED. I GET THAT, BUT ARE WE ACTUALLY FOCUSING ON THE REAL ISSUE? I DON'T KNOW. BECAUSE I ONLY GOT DOWNTOWN DATA. OR ARE WE ONLY FOCUSING ON MOST VISIBLE AREA. BECAUSE EQUITY REQUIRES THAT WE RESPOND BASED ON NEED NOT JUST VISIBILITY. I DON'T KNOW THE NEED BECAUSE I ONLY GOT HALF DATA. AND THIS DATA DOESN'T ACTUALLY TELL ME MUCH OTHER THAN -- THIS ORG ORDINANCE TALKS ABOUT THE PUBLIC SPACE. IT DOES NOT TARGET SHOOTING OR FIREARM HOMICIDE. IT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THE BROAD POLICY AS IT PRESENTED. THE INFORMATION SHOWS THAT CRIME EXISTS. WE ALREADY KNOW THAT. WE KNOW THAT CRIME EXISTS. IT DOES NOT TELL US WHETHER DOWNTOWN IS UNIQUE. IT DOESN'T TELL US WHETHER THINGS ARE WORSENING RELATIVE TO OTHER AREAS. OR WHETHER THIS ORDINANCE WOULD CHANGEOSE -- THOSE OUTCOMES. I GET WHY YOU SUBMITTED THIS. IT'S BECAUSE IT SIGNALS URGENCY AND DANGER. IT IS A MARKETING PLOY FOR YOUR ORDINANCE. I GET IT. IT'S A GOOD ONE. IT'S A LIST OF SPECIFIC SHOOTING INCIDENTS IN DOWNTOWN. I GET WHY YOU PROVIDED IT. IT'S DESCRIPTIVE. IT'S NOT ANALYTICAL. IT DOESN'T TELL US ANYTHING. IT ONLY RAISES QUESTIONS. ARE OTHER AREAS EXPERIENCING SIMILAR OR WORSE VIOLENCE? ARE WE CONCENTRATING RESOURCES ON DATA OR PERCEPTION? ARE WE GRAIT -- CREATING GEOGRAPHICAL FAVORITISM? I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. AGAIN, I SUPPORT OUR BUSINESSES. I SUPPORT A -- I SUPPORT ALLOWING PEOPLE TO -- I JUST WANT AN ORDINANCE THAT IS NOT DEEPLY PROBLEMATIC. I JUST WANT AN ORDINANCE THAT DOESN'T IMPEDE ON OUR CIVIL RIGHTS. I JUST WANT -- IF WE CREATE ENHANCED ENFORCEMENT ZONES THAT RESTRICT SITTING, SLEEPING, RESTING IN PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY, WE ARE RAISING SERIOUS CONCERNS. MANY INDIVIDUALS WHO SIT -- WE ALREADY TALKED -- YOU KNOW, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN WAS TALKING ABOUT HER KNEE. IF I HAVE TO SIT BECAUSE OF KNEE PAIN OR -- WE'RE JUST -- WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS WE'RE BECOMING AGEIST AND ABLEIST AND PENALIZING PEOPLE FOR CONDITIONS THEY CANNOT CONTROL. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL CALL THE QUESTION. UNLESS WE'RE CLOSING. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE'RE ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> FAILS ON A 3-6 VOTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: NOW, WE ARE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. WE JUST RECEIVED ANOTHER ONE. THIS IS FLOOR AMENDMENT LABELED G IN YOUR PACKET. THIS IS NOW FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER 7. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WHEN I WAS MEETING WITH FOLKS IT WAS BROUGHT UP FIRST AMENDMENT ACTIVITY. OF COURSE, NO CITY RULE CAN OVERRIDE OUR FIRST -- CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. HOWEVER, I WAS IN A MARCH THIS PAST WEEK. DOWNTOWN IS GROUND ZERO FOR PROTEST ACTIVITY. BOTH THE GOOD AND BAD. I THOUGHT TO PUT THIS AMENDMENT IN. SIMPLY EXEMPTIONS. NOTHING SHALL CONSTRUE ON ANYTHING PROTECTED BY THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE AND PROTEST. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. PEÑA: MOTION, AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SEVEN. >>COUN. BACA: I URGE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THAT'S YOUR CLOSE. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. PEÑA: NOW, WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. SEVEN TIMES. WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. CALL OUR FIRST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER. OUR FIRST SPEAKSER DANIEL FOLLOWED BY ILSE. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M A POLICY ADVOCATE AT THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION OF NEW MEXICO. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THE AMENDMENTS THAT PASS. AND FOR THE AMENDMENTS THAT DIDN'T PASS. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THOSE. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM NOT INDIFFERENT TO THE WORK THAT THIS COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE DONE TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY AND THE FACT THAT HOMELESSNESS ISN'T A CRISIS THIS COUNCIL CREATED. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT PUNISHING PEOPLE FOR EXISTING IN PUBLIC WITHOUT HAVING A HOME TO LIVE IN DOES NOT COMPLIMENT THOSE. IT UNDOES THE GOOD WORK THIS COUNCIL HAS DONE AND CONTINUES TO DO. CRIMINALIZATION OF HOMELESSNESS DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. IT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE PROBLEM. IN FACT, IT MAKES OUR PROBLEMS WORSE. WE URGE YOU TO OPPOSE THE BILL AS IT STANDS. THANK YOU. >> ILSE FOLLOWED BY KELLY. >> IT IS UNFAIR THAT BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE DECADES-LONG INSTITUTIONAL NEGLECT. ON THE SAME SIDE. SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN URGENTLY. IT'S NOT THE ANTICIPATE ROY STUFF OF HOUSING FIRST. IT'S PEOPLE ON THE STREETS RIGHT NOW. IN THE LIST THAT COUNCILOR BACA HAD LISTED OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE INVOLVED, I DID NOT HEAR OUTREACH. AS COUNCILOR ROGERS HAD POINTED OUT AT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, ACS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE TO DEAL WITH OUTREACH. THEY DO IT. AND THEY DO IT WELL. I WORK WITH THEM. BUT THAT IS NOT THEIR PURPOSE. THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A PROPER OUTREACH TERM. THAT'S JUST A PRACTICALITY. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE WILL SIT ON THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, AND MENTIONED YOU NEED SEVEN TO EIGHT ENCOUNTERS TO ESTABLISH SOME SORT OF RELATIONSHIP. WITHOUT THAT, WE'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH. AND THAT IS WHERE THE CRUX LIES. >> KELLY FOLLOWED BY MARSLEN. MARSLEN FOLLOWED BY HANNAH. >> 2025 SAW SIX-FOLD INCREASE OF CHARGES FOR UNLAWFUL CAMPING. A JUMP TO 1,256 CASES FOR OBSTRUCTING SIDEWALKS AND MORE TRESPASSING CHARGES THAN ANY YEAR SINCE 2017. THESE LAWS ARE ON THE BOOKS ALREADY. YOU WORKED HARD TO PASS A BUNCH OF THEM. YOU EXIST. YOU SWEEP PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE SEE IT. YOU'RE DESTROYING PEOPLE'S BELONGING IN THE BACK OF A WASTE MANAGEMENT TRUCK. THIS IS STILL HAPPENING. THIS IS ACTIVELY HAPPENING. WE NEED MORE LAWS, MORE ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO MAGICALLY FIX THIS? MAYBE INSTEAD OF 49% OF MDC BEING HOMELESS, MAYBE 55 AND IT WILL SOLVE THE CRISIS. I THINK ABOUT WAYS AND THINGS THAT PUSH ME TO COMMIT CRIME OR OUT OF DESPERATION STEAL THINGS TO MAKE MONEY. I THINK ABOUT FINES THAT WILL SEND ME TO JAIL. I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD REASON TO DO CRIME. I THINK IT'S A GOOD REASON FOR DESPERATION TO STEAL SOMETHING IN ORDER TO PAY THAT. I THINK LAWS MAKE IT MORE LIKELY THAT MORE CRIME IS GOING TO HAPPEN. PEOPLE WILL GET WORSE. AND YOU KNOW THAT, AND IT'S MORE COMFORTABLE TO ENFORCE, ENFORCE, AND ENFORCE. AND IT'S EASIER THAN IT IS TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING. MONEY WITHOUT PURPOSE DOES NOT MATTER. IT DOES NOTHING. >> HANNAH FOLLOWED BY GRACE. >> HELLO. THIS BILL IS DESIGNED FOR BUSINESSES. BUT THE PEOPLE ARE YOUR CONSTITUENTS. YOU CAN DO A LOT MORE WITH THE MONEY YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND ON THIS OR ON PUTTING PEOPLE IN JAIL OR -- IT THE MONEY YOU ARE SPENDING ON THIS WILL NOT FIX THE PROBLEM. YOU'RE GOING TO SEND PEOPLE AWAY FROM RESOURCES THEY NEED AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO HELP. YOU CANNOT REACH SOMEONE WHEN YOU FIRST HELP THEM WITH A TRAUMATIC SITUATION AND GO I HAVE HELP FOR YOU. THEY'RE LIKE NO, SOMETHING REALLY SCARY JUST HAPPENED AND I WANT -- YOU CAN'T FIX IT THAT WAY. YOU HAVE TO SHOW UP AND BE CONSISTENT AND CARE ABOUT THE PERSON, NOT JUST HOW PRETTY YOUR STREETS LOOK. OR HOW MUCH ACCESS TO YOUR BUSINESS IS. IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE, YOUR BUSINESSES WILL THRIVE. >> GRACE FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> I'M IN FIRM OPPOSITION TO THIS ORDINANCE AND SEE -- THIS MAKES IT UNLAWFUL TO EXIST ON ANY PUBLIC SIDE WALK. THAT APPLIES TO ANYONE IN PUBLIC SPACE. UNHOUSED RESIDENTS BUT ALSO PICKETERS STREET PERFORMANCE AND ME. I'M A TRANSGENDER WOMAN WHO PROTESTS FREQUENTLY AND PROTESTING MEANS THAT I CAN GO TO JAIL UNDER THIS ORDINANCE. JAIL IS NOT AN INCONVENIENCE FOR US TRANSFOLK. IT IS LIFE THREATENING, WE'RE PLACED IN FACILITIES THAT DON'T MATCH OUR GENDER WHERE WE FACE VIOLENCE AND ABUSE. THIS BOUNDARY IS SET BY THE MAYOR WITH CRITERIA BROUGHT IT UP TO COVER ALL COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS WITH WITHOUT CHECKS. THIS VIOLATES THE RIGHT TO ECUAL PROTECTION UNDER CONSTITUTION. DISPLACING UNHOUSED PEOPLE MOVE OUT OF VIEW. WE DESERVE REAL SOLUTIONS NOT AN ORDINANCE THAT TREATS POVERTY AS A ZONING PROBLEM AND LIABILITY. YOU HAVE THIS ON THE BOOKS. SOMEBODY GOT BOOKED ON MDC FOR OBSTRUCTING A SIDE WALK TODAY. WE CANNOT GET RID OF POVERTY WITH A MAGIC WAND. THIS WILL MAKE CRIME WORSE. YOU ARE COWARDS. YOU WILL HAVE TO FACE EVERY CONSTITUENT AT EVERY DOOR. >> LISA FOLLOWED BY ANAMI. >> I GUESS I WOULD SPEAK AS A RESEARCHER THAT IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE MULTIPLE TRUTHS AND FACTS THAT ARE SIMULTANEOUSLY OCCURRING AT THE SAME TIME. GOOD THINGS HAVE HAPPENED. A LOT OF THE THINGS -- THE BATHROOMS -- THE YOUTH SHELTER, ET CETERA. THOSE THINGS CAN EXIST AT THE SAME TIME. BUT UNHOUSED PEOPLE HAVE NO PLACE TO GO. IT'S NOT ONE OR THE OTHER. I WALKED CENTRAL FROM 12th TO 2nd. I WENT DOWN, 3rd, 4th I DROVE DOWN BROADWAY. THERE WERE NO BATHROOM. I CALLED COUNCILOR ROGERS'S ANALYST. WHERE IS THE BATHROOM IN THE PLAZA. I COULDN'T FIND IT. I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH HER. IT WAS OPENED THIS TIME. THE TIME BEFORE IT WAS NOT. I WALKED FROM 12th TO 2nd. NO BATHROOMS. NO WATER. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MADE IT THEIR LIFE'S MISSION -- AND WE'RE NOT SAYING THE POOP -- IT'S GROSS. WE'RE ASKING FOR -- WE KNOW THERE ARE PLACES TO PUT PEOPLE. WHY PUT THEM IN JAIL IF WE THE RESOURCES TO HELP? LET'S WITHDRAW THE BILL SO WE CAN GET THAT. >> ANAMI FOLLOWED BY BRI. >>COUN. PEÑA: ONE SECOND. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU. JUST TO CORRECT THE RECORD. THERE'S A PUBLIC RESTROOM AT 1st STREET AND GOLD. AND THERE'S A PUBLIC RESTROOM AT 4th STREET AND TIJERAS. THOSE EXIST. THEY'RE REAL. THEY'RE NOT IMAGINARY. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. >>COUN. PEÑA: THAT'S YOUR FIRST WARNING. >> BRI FOLLOWED BY SUSAN. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE JUSTICE CENTER. ABOUT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR PEOPLE LIVING, WORKING, AND TRAVELING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. EXPANDED ENFORCEMENT WILL RESULT IN MORE PEOPLE FACING STEEPER PENALTIES AT A MUCH HIGHER FREQUENCY. AS FINES EXCEED A PERSON'S ABILITY TO PAY THEY'RE FORCED TO MAKE IMPOSSIBLE CHOICES. WHETHER TO PAY FOR BASIC NECESSITY OR COURT DEBT. IT IS A MISCONCEPTION THAT HIGHER FINES LEAD TO BETTER COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW. RESEARCH SHOWS THAT WHEN A FINE IS AFFORDABLE PEOPLE PAY IT. THE CITY SHOULD MANDATE AN ABILITY TO PAY ASSESSMENT WHICH ENSURES THEY CAN PAY WITHOUT GIVING UP BASIC NECESSITY. IF PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE GOAL, WE SHOULD INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE ACROSS THE CITY INCLUDING HOUSING, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES AND PROVEN COURT TOOLS SUCH AS STANDARDIZED ABILITY TO PAY ASSESSMENT. WE MUST FOCUS RESOURCES ON PREVENTATIVE SUPPORT RATHER THAN UNBALANCED ENFORCEMENT. >> SUSAN FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> I AM A LONGTIME DOWNTOWN RESIDENT AND PROPERTY OWNER. THIS MONTH I WILL BE 77 YEARS OLD. MOST PEOPLE MY AGE WON'T EVEN COME DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE. WE ARE LOSING OUR GROCERY STORE DOWNTOWN. WE'RE LOSING OTHER BUSINESSES. CONVENTIONS WON'T COME. AND STRICTLY FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT, WITHOUT THESE SOURCES OF INCOME, WE WILL NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHO NEED SUPPORT. AND OTHER SERVICES. WE DO NEED TO THEM MAINTAIN THEIR HOMES AND HELP THE DRUG ADDICTS GET HELP. WITH INCOME FROM A STRONG AND SAFE DOWNTOWN, MAYBE WE WON'T HAVE TO CUT FUNDS. I HAVE BEEN HEARING ABOUT HOW THIS BILL WILL DEHUMANIZE STREET PEOPLE. THERE ARE TWO WAYS OF DEHUMANIZING. ONE IS SAY THE PERSON IS WORTHLESS AND NO REDEEMING QUALITIES. NUMBER TWO IS THAT PERSON IS INCAPABLE OF BEING ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR. THOSE ARE BOTH DEMEANING. >> TAD FOLLOWED BY BENJAMIN ON ZOOM. >> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS TAD. AGAIN. WELL, HERE IS CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE RESPONDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF BOARDING THOSE WINDOWS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. THE CITY COUNCIL, ALL KINDS OF SECURITY. SECURITY EVERYWHERE. SCREENERS RIGHT HERE. COMING TO CITY COUNCIL. PUBLIC MEETING. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW. THEN ANOTHER LOOK, BIG BUSINESSES BOARDING TOO. THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT. WHAT ABOUT SMALLER BUSINESSS ? I AGREE WITH STEPHANIE. OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, YOU CANNOT GET COPS ANYMORE. SOMEBODY TRY TO 10,000 OF MY VEHICLE. AND TRY TO GET COPS. NO. YOU CAN'T GET COPS. THEN MY FRIEND SAYS THIS SECURITY GUARD HAVE GUN. WHEN I MENTION GUN RIGHT AWAY -- TO 911, RIGHT AWAY COPS SHOW UP. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. COPS DON'T DO -- DO AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE. >> BENJAMIN ON ZOOM. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. I'M SORRY ABOUT THE POOR LIGHTING. I'M URGING YOU TO SUPPORT THIS BILL. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN IT. EVEN IF THERE ARE SOME THING THAT I WOULD CHANGE. I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR BACA FOR CONTINUING TO BRING FORWARD BILLS THAT ARE AIMED AT IMPROVING OUR CITY IN WAYS THAT I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF THE THING YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IN THIS BILL IS FINANCING, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COME TALK TO ME. I HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS ABOUT HOW WE CAN IMPROVE FINANCING FOR THE CITY. AND IT'S IF THE THING YOU'RE OPPOSED TO IS HOW IT TREATS HOMELESS PEOPLE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE FOR THIS BILL AND COME BACK WITH AN AMENDMENT EVERY TWO WEEKS AND JUST BOW A COMPLETE DAI TO THE COUNCIL YOU GET YOUR AMENDMENT INTRODUCED OR PASSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED SEVEN TIMES WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILORS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCILOR BASSAN. FOLLOWED BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, EARLIER I ASKED APD IF THEY CAN DO A GENERAL DATA PULL FOR ME. I'M NOT TRYING TO GET THEM TO BE EXACT BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS LAST-MINUTE. I DO THINK THE DOCUMENTS WE GOT EARLIER ARE TELLING. I WANT TO ASK IF APD WILL COME DOWN AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A GENERAL -- KEEP IN MIND -- GENERAL IDEA. I ASKED THEM TO FIND OUT, OUT OF ALL THESE YEARS FOR THE NUMBER OF HOMICIDES AND SHOOTING INJURY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, WE HAVE NOW FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA, I'M CURIOUS -- IS DOWNTOWN THE MAJORITY? WHAT IS THE REST OF THE CITY LOOKING LIKE? WHAT'S THE RATIO, GENERALLY? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE WERE ABLE TO FIND THE HOMICIDE SINCE 2003 FROM THE CITY. SO, IF YOU LOOK AT 2023, 10 HOMICIDES IN THE SOUTHWEST. 24 IN THE VALLEY. FOOTHILLS 11, NORTHEAST HAD 12. NORTHWEST HAD 8. SOUTHWEST HAD 30. 2024, SOUTHWEST HAD 8. UNIVERSITY HAD #. VALLEY HAD 16. FOOTHILLS HAD 10. NORTH WE SAY HAD 10. NORTHWEST HAD 3. AND SOUTHEAST HAD 35. FOR 2025, SOUTHWEST HAD 9. VALLEY HAD 10. FOOTHILLS HAD SIX. NORTHEAST HAD NINE. NORTHWEST HAD SIX. AND SOUTHEAST HAD 23. AND YEAR TO DATE FOR 2026, VALLEY HAD EIGHT. FOOTHILLS HAS TWO, NORTHEAST HAS ONE. NORTHWEST HAS ONE. SOUTHEAST HAS THREE. AND SOUTHWEST HAS ONE. IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SHOOTINGS, THE ONLY NON-FATAL SHOOTINGS WE'RE ABLE TO PULL WITH THIS QUICK OF NOTICE IS FOR 2026. SOUTHWEST HAS 23. VALLEY HAS 29. FOOTHILLS HAS 11. NORTHEAST HAS 29. NORTHWEST HAS 16. AND SOUTHEAST HAS 57. >>COUN. BASSAN: A THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF. I THINK IT WAS RELEVANT JUST TO FIND OUT THE RATIO. AND TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DOWNTOWN LOOKS LIKE WITH THIS INFORMATION. IT WAS GOOD FOR MY BRAIN TO HAVE THAT. I KNOW IT WAS SHORT NOTICE. THANK YOU FOR PULLING THAT TOGETHER. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. THAT WAS SUPER HELPFUL FOR ME TOO. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR THE SPONSOR OR FOR ANYBODY ELSE. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE DESIGNATION PROCESS. AND WHY IT'S STRUCTURED IN THIS WAY WHERE IT HAS TO BE THE MAYOR PRESENTING TO COUNCIL RATHER THAN US SAYING WE'LL BE AN ANALYSIS AND WE'LL LOOK THROUGH THIS? >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL ANSWER THAT. WE DID WORK WITH THE MAYOR ON THIS QUITE A BIT. SO FOLKS KNOW, I ALSO SPOKE WITH CITY COUNCILORS IN DENVER, AND TUCSON AND LAS VEGAS ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT ARE BEST PRACTICES. IT WASN'T JUST PULLED OUT OF THE AIR. I'M VERY FOCUSED ON DISTRICT TWO. I CAN TELL YOU WITH DISTRICT TWO, I HAVE NO IDEA WITH DISTRICT THREE, NINE, SEVEN. I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THAT. THE MAYOR IS THE EXECUTIVE AND IT'S HIS JOB TO UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE CITY AS A WHOLE. IT SEEMED THE MAYOR WILL WORK WITH THE COUNCILORS PRIOR TO THIS COMING TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE. I'LL LET DR. SENGEL SPEAK TO THAT. AND SPEAKING TO OTHERS, THAT WAS BEST PRACTICE WITH THE MAYOR WORKING WITH THE SPECIFIC DISTRICT IF THERE'S A NEED OR NOT A NEED. AND THE ABILITY WITH CRITERIA TO GO THROUGH IT AND HAVE OVERSIGHT OF THE ENTIRE COUNCIL. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK THAT THIS BILL -- I UNDERSTAND THAT -- WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT DOWNTOWN. AND THERE'S A PROCESS WHERE WE -- THIS COMES BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND WE DESIGNATE OR THE MAYOR MAKES THE FIRST SUGGESTION AND DESIGNATES CERTAIN AREAS. I THINK BILLS LIKE THIS ARE THE KEY, REALLY, TO COMPASSION. REALLY, THE KEY TO COMPASSION. THE KEY TO EFFECTIVENESS. WHEN YOU THINK OF THE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WE SPEND ON ALL OF THESE AREAS. AND YOU MEASURE THE EFFECTIVE NESS. I THINK WE HAVE A HARD TIME MEASURING IT LET ALONE SEEING THE RESULTS. WE DON'T THE RESULTS THAT ARE MEASURABLE IN ANY WAY. YOU KNOW, THIS TAKES A STEP TOWARD COMBINING THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE WITH A FOCUS IN AN AREA WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE. I DON'T SEE IT AS PUNITIVE AS MUCH AS IT IS OF JUST FOLKING RESOURCES AND HELP FOR PEOPLE INTO SPECIFIC AREAS. NOW, THE OTHER PART OF IT IS -- THE ONLY PROBLEM I WITH THIS BILL IS I THINK WE HAVE THE MONEY AND ABILITY TO DO THIS IN EVERY PART OF OUR CITY. EVERY STREET. IF IT'S GOOD FOR ONE STREET, IT'S GOOD FOR EVERY STREET IN THIS CITY. ESPECIALLY AS A PRIMARY FUNCTION OF OUR CITY GOVERNMENT WHICH IS TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE HOMELESS, IF YOU DO NAUNT WANT TO BE HOMELESS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE HOMELESS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GO HUNGRY IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO HUNGRY. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. WE'RE FAR BEYOND ANY SAFETY NET, WHICH I THINK IS A RESPONSIBILITY OF CITY GOVERNMENT. PROVIDE THAT SAFETY NET. WE'RE FAR BEYOND THAT. TO THE TUNE WHERE WE GIVE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A MONTH TO ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY WITH SOME OF OUR TAX DOLLARS. IF WE WERE TO -- WE SPEND $30,000 PER UNHOUSED PERSON IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. PER YEAR. ENOUGH TO PURCHASE A NICE APARTMENT IN DOWNTOWN ALBUQUERQUE FOR SOMEONE TO LIVE AND HAVE SHELTER. WE PUT A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES INTO THIS. SO, ANY BILL THAT HELPS BRIDGE THAT GAP SOME IS BE ABLE TO FOCUS THOSE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN ACTUALLY GOING TO GATEWAY -- GATEWAY SPENDS HUNDREDS OF MILLION. IF NOBODY GOES TO IT, WHAT IS IT WORTH? SO, THIS IS A COUNCILOR WHO IDENTIFIED SOME SERIOUS CHALLENGES AND PROBLEMS IN AN AREA OF TOWN AND WE CAN ALL LOOK AT IT AND SAY THERE'S AREAS OF TOWNS WHERE WE CAN APPLY THIS RIGHT NOW. MY ONLY CRITICISM OF THIS BILL IS THAT SOMEHOW IT'S A NEW AND FRESH IDEA WHEN IT REALLY SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE'RE ALWAYS DOING. AND IN EVERY PART OF OUR CITY. AGAIN, IF IT'S GOOD FOR UNSER, IT'S GOOD FOR GOLF COURSE AND COORS. THIS IS A START. IT'S A GOOD START. THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS -- BRIDGE THAT GAP TO REALLY SHOW COMPASSION AS A CITY. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR TELLES. >>COUN. TELLES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. CHIEF BARKER, I HAVE ANOTHER COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU IF YOU DON'T MIND. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CHIEF, HOW MANY OF THE -- IN THE SHOOTING CRIME DATA, GENERALLY, YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS. BUT GENERALLY, HOW MANY OF THE OFFENDERS HERE ARE UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS? >> I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA AVAILABLE. >>COUN. TELLES: OKAY. HOW MANY GENERALLY -- DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA -- ARE THESE FOLKS IN YOUR SHOOTING CRIME ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS OR OUT ON BOND? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR TELLES, I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PULL UP IF WE HAD THE REQUEST IN. >>COUN. TELLES: OKAY. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT -- ESPECIALLY PARTICULARLY CURIOUS ABOUT HOW MANY ARE UNHOUSED. AND HOW MANY MIGHT BE OUT ON BOND -- SPECIFICALLY THOSE ARE ON BOND BECAUSE I DO RECALL THAT THE STATE CONSTITUTION WAS AMENDED BACK IN 2016, I BELIEVE. ACTUALLY IT REMOVED THE ABILITY FOR JUDGES TO MAKE THE DECISIONS TO HOLD INDIVIDUALS ON -- IN JAIL. AND PUT THAT ONUS ON PROSECUTORS TO PROVE TWO ELEMENTS. THAT A DEFENDANT IS DANGEROUS. AND THAT PRE-TRIAL DETENTION OF A PERSON IS THE ONLY WAY TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY. AND SO, MY QUESTION IS, IF ANY OF THESE REPEAT OFFENDERS OUT ON BOND, BECAUSE A JUDGE LET THEM OUT, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY THE JUDGE'S FAULT THAT THEY GOT OUT ON BOND. IT IS THE FAULT OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOR FAILING TO PROVE THAT THE DEFENDANTS WERE DANGEROUS AND THEY SHOULD BE HELD IN PRE-TRIAL DETENTION, IS THAT CORRECT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR TELLES, THAT WOULD BE BASED ON CASE BY CASE. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT. FOR THE VALLEY AREA COMMAND, AT LEAST FOUR OF THE HOMICIDES ARE UNHOUSED WHICH IS VERY CONCERNING TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE MADE AN ARREST IN SOME OF THOSE. WE DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE RELATED. BUT THERE IS A SAFETY CONCERN FOR EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY, PUT SPECIFICALLY THE UNHOUSED. I THINK THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IN THAT ASPECT AND IN THAT MANNER. >>COUN. TELLES: MAYBE A QUESTION FOR LEGAL, CAN YOU CONFIRM WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVING A DEFENDANT MUST BE HELD ON BAIL? DOES THAT LIE WITH THE PROSECUTION AND DISTRICT ATTORNEY OR WITH THE JUDGES? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR TELLES, THAT IS DETERMINATION THAT'S MADE BASED ON THE -- GENERALLY -- ON THE DANGER THAT THE PERSPECTIVE PERSON TO BE RELEASED WOULD POSE TO SOCIETY. THERE ARE MULTIFACTOR STEPS THAT GO INTO THAT. THERE'S A TEST THAT CREATES THAT PUBLIC ASSESSMENT FOR POSSIBLE DANGER. >>COUN. TELLES: WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SHOWING THAT DANGER? WHO HAS THE OBLIGATION TO PROVE THAT DANGER? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR TELLES, GENERALLY FALLS ON THE PROSECUTION. THERE'S A TEST PUT -- CERTAIN FACTORS HAVE TO BE SATISFIED. THOSE FACTORS HAVE TO BE SHOWN BY THE PROSECUTOR BUT THEY'RE GUIDED BY CASE LAW AND STATUTE. >>COUN. TELLES: RIGHT. I DO REMEMBER THAT AMENDMENT. IT WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE NEW MEXICO CONSTITUTION THAT A DEFENDANT CAN BE HELD IN JAIL WHILE AWAITING TRIAL IF PROSECUTORS PROVE TWO ELEMENTS. THE DEFENDANT IS DANGEROUS AND PRE-TRIAL DETENTION OF THE SPERN THE ONLY WAY TO PROTECT THE WAY TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY. IF WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS COMMITTING GUN CRIMES WHO ARE OUT ON BAIL, OR REPEAT OFFENDERS, THAT'S BECAUSE OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY IS FAILING US. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THESE GUN CRIMES ARE ACTUALLY KILLING AND HURTING AND AFFECTING UNHOUSED PEOPLE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. MY NEXT QUESTION, CHIEF, HOW CUMBERSOME DOES THE CRIMINALIZATION PERPETUAL NONCOMPLIANCE HIGHER CITY COST PROCESS? HOW CUMBERSOME IS THAT? IF YOU HAVE TO -- IF THERE'S AN UNHOUSED PERSON IN PUBLIC SPACE SITTING OR STORING BEHIND AND YOU HAVE TO ISSUE A CITATION AND YOU -- THIS PERSON HAS TO COMPLY AND THE PERSON CAN'T COMPLY LONG-TERM AND THE ENFORCEMENT REPEATS ITSELF AND THE LEGAL CONSEQUENCES ACCUMULATE AND THE BARRIERS TO HOUSING AND STABILITY INCREASE AND THE NON-COMPLIANCE BECOMES PERMANENT AND THE CITY COSTS INCREASES, HOW CUMBERSOME IS THAT TO YOUR DEPARTMENT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR TELLES, I WOULD STATE THAT THE CUMBERSOME COMES WITH ANY CASE WE HAVE. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT AS POLICE OFFICERS WE ARE ENFORCING THE LAWS OF THE CITY AND STATE. AND THAT WE ARE NOT NEGLECTING THOSE DUTIES BASED ON HOW CUMBERSOME THAT MIGHT BE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GOING TO COURT AND DIFFERENT ISSUES WE'VE SEEN IN THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM. BUT WE CANNOT LET THAT AFFECT THE WORK WE DO EVERY DAY. >>COUN. TELLES: CHIEF BARKER, THANK YOU. I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT WOULD YOU RATHER BE GOING AFTER NON-COMPLIANCE FOR UNPAID FINES DUE TO SITTING IN PUBLIC, OR GOING AFTER THOSE WHO ARE ACTUALLY COMMITTING VERY DANGEROUS CRIMES? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR TELLES, I THINK AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT, AGAIN, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO ENFORCE ALL THE LAWS. OBVIOUSLY VIOLENT CRIME IS OUR PRIORITY, BUT WE ARE TAKING AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE LAW. AND THAT COMES DOWN TO ANY ORDINANCE OR STATUTE THAT COMES TO OUR ATTENTION. >>COUN. TELLES: THANK YOU, CHIEF. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SHOW THE CITY PAYS FOR REPEAT ENFORCEMENT IN ITEMS LIKE THIS. WE PAY FOR THE CLEANUP AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE. WE PAID FOR THE COURT PROCESSING. WE PAY FOR JAIL RELATED COSTS. WE PAY FOR LEGAL WORK. STAFF TIME. THE BERNALILLO COUNTY JUST PASSED THEIR BUDGET ON TUESDAY -- LAST TUESDAY. THEY PAY $90 MILLION TO HOUSE ONLY THOSE WHO ARE ARRESTED BY APD IN MDC. THAT'S A PRETTY BIG CHUNK OF MONEY JUST FOR APD ARRESTS. $90 MILLION. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS BILL CORRECTLY NOW WITH THE AMENDMENTS. THIS WOULD CREATE A NEW TOOL FOR THE CITY TO DESIGNATE SPECIFIC COMMERCIAL AREAS AS ENHANCED SERVICE OR SAFETY ZONES. AND I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THE CONCENTRATION OF SERVICES ESPECIALLY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. MY DISTRICT, I THINK WE HEAR THOSE NUMBERS, THEY'RE CARRYING THE BRUNT OF HOMELESSNESS AND CRIME AND ALL OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. HOPING THIS BILL WILL FIX. MY QUESTION IS HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE AND PRACTICE THE INFRASTRUCTURE -- TARGETED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE? I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE I ALWAYS -- I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS PUBLICLY OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SINCE WE'RE CARRYING THE BRUNT OF IT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR ROADS ARE PRIORITIZED FOR REPAVING AND WE HAVE HORRIBLE CONDITIONS OF OUR ROADS IN OUR DISTRICT. HOW WOULD WE ACTUALLY PRIORITIZE -- IF THIS WAS PASSED -- WHICH AREAS WOULD RECEIVE THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I CAN -- THE BEST WAY I CAN EXPLAIN THIS IS BY AN EXAMPLE THAT HAS RECENTLY BEEN IN YOUR DISTRICT. I THINK COUNCILOR GROUT'S DISTRICT. IN WHICH WE PRIORITIZED BOTH PEDESTRIAN LEVEL LIGHTING AND REDUCING THE NUMBER OF LANES ON CENTRAL TO REDUCE THE SPEED AS WELL AS DECONFLICT SOME OF THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. I WOULD JUST USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. AS WELL IN PLACES WHERE WE HAVE INSTALLED HAWK LIGHTS OR OTHER INSTALLATIONS IN WHICH WE'RE FOCUSED ON ENSURING BOTH THE SAFETY OF THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE VEHICLES. THOSE ARE ALL VEHICLE EXAMPLES. BUT THEY'RE THE ONES I CAN THINK OF WITHIN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE PRIORITIZED BASED UPON UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWING THE NEED IS THERE AND THE DISTRICTS PASTED BON THE TYPE OF INTERACTION THAT HAPPEN BETWEEN PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICLES. I ONLY USE IT AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE I THINK OUR DEPARTMENTS DO THIS TODAY IN TERMS OF PRIORITIZING FOR SAFETY PURPOSES IN AREAS WE KNOW THAT IS TRUE. THIS WOULD -- THIS ORDINANCE GIVES A WAY FOR US TO COLLECT THAT EFFORT IN DESIGNATION FOR THE PURPOSES WHAT THE COUNCIL WOULD PASS IN THAT DESIGNATION OF A ZONE. WE WOULD BRING THOSE PROPOSALS -- WE WOULD PRIORITIZE THOSE PROJECTS BASED UPON THE ZONE'S DESIGNATION. SDMRR I THINK MY FOLLOW . >>COUN. ROGERS: I THINK MY FOLLOW UP TO THAT IS WE ALREADY HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT PRIORITIZES SOCIAL VULNERABILITY INDEX THAT CAME OUT OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION AND EVERY CAPITAL SEASON I ASKED WHICH DEPARTMENT USED THAT TOOL TO PRIORITIZE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND EVERY DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO REPORT THEY'RE NOT USING THAT TOOL. BASED ON THIS ORDINANCE, AS IT'S WRITTEN, IT WILL BE HIGH ECONOMIC ACTIVITY WILL BE THE FIRST CRITERIA. NEXT WOULD BE HIGH CRIME RATES, DISTRESSED INFRASTRUCTURE. I JUST WONDER, AGAIN, IT'S NOT CLEAR HOW WE PRIORITIZE THAT. ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FACT WE HAVE TOOLS TO DO THAT AND WE'RE NOT DOING THAT NOW. I THINK MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE AROUND -- SINCE THE HELPS FOR SITTING AND SLEEPING DIDN'T PASS. OBVIOUSLY, WITH OUR COMMUNITY THIS FEELS LIKE TARGETED ANTI-CAMPING WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE LAWS ON THE BOOKS THAT DO THAT. GIVING THE ADMINISTRATION ANOTHER TOOL TO ENFORCE THE LAWS WE ALREADY, WHEN WE'RE ALREADY NOT USING THE TOOLS WE ALREADY HAVE. I DON'T KNOW IT'S GOING TO GET TO THE PURPOSE OF WHAT THIS IS. AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE FUND SETTING PURPOSE. AM I READING THIS CORRECTLY THAT THE ZONES WOULD ONLY LAST UP TO TWO YEARS AND THEY WOULD NEED TO BE RENEWED? IS THAT CORRECT? I GUESS I'M ASKING THE SPONSOR. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS. YES. THERE'S A SUNSET PROVISION. IN LIEU OF REPORTING, EVERY TWO YEARS WE REASSESS WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS NEEDED OR NOT. THE DEFAULT IS IT'S NO LONGER NEEDED. IDEALLY THAT HAS OCCURRED, BUT WE COULD REEXTEND AT THAT POINT IF THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR DETERMINE IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BACA. THAT MEANS COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THE RENEWAL. >>COUN. BACA: COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE ALL OF IT. >>COUN. ROGERS: I DIDN'T SEE ANY, BUT ARE THERE ANY PROVISIONS FOR FINE AND FEE JUSTICE? SIMILAR TO WHAT WE PUT IN THE BILL FOR AUTOMATIC SPEED CAMERAS WHERE FOLKS CAN VOLUNTEER IN LIEU OF THE $500 FINE? ARE THERE ANY PROVISIONS IN THE BILL FOR THAT? THIS IS FOR THE SPONSOR. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DON'T BELIEVE WE PUT THAT IN. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I'D SAY WE MAKE THAT AMENDMENT AT A FUTURE POINT, IF IT'S NECESSARY. >>COUN. ROGERS: MADAM PRESIDENT, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FOLKS THAT WILL MOST LIKELY INCUR THESE TYPES OF FINES, AGAIN, IF WE'RE ASSUMING THESE FOLKS ARE UNSHELTERED THAT ARE IN THE CRIME STATS WE HEARD FROM OUR CHIEF, THEN THE FOLKS WON'T BE ABLE TO PAY THOSE FINES AND THOSE FEES. SO, GIVING THEM AN OPTION TO VOLUNTEER WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY LEAD TO GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT MIGHT BE A GOOD THING FOR NOW RATHER THAN LATER. I THINK THAT'S MY LAST QUESTION. I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT OF ONE MORE FOR THE SPONSOR. WHAT SPECIFIC CORRIDORS ARE ANTICIPATED FIRST? >>COUN. BACA: TO ANSWER BOTH YOUR QUESTIONS IN ORDER. A, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS. A, COURTS ALREADY HAVE A MECHANISM TO PROVIDE COMMUNITY SERVICE IF NEED -- AS AN OPTION. B, I DO NOT ASSUME THIS WILL JUST BE UNHOUSED. THAT'S AN ASSUMPTION. THIS IS SAFETY BILL. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SHOOTING AND PEOPLE BEING SHOT, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE UNHOUSED. THE 49 WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY WERE NOT UNHOUSED. I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION. AND THE SECOND PART, HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE CORRIDORS, AS I SAID BEFORE, I WOULD NEVER SPEAK TO ANOTHER COUNCILOR'S DISTRICT. I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. IT'S ALSO NOT MY JOB. I WOULD NEVER TELL YOU WHERE THIS -- OR HOW TO PRIORITIZE YOUR CORRIDOR. I KNOW WHERE I PRIORITIZE. I CAN NAME DOWNTOWN AND A FEW OTHER POSITIONS BASED ON THE HEAT MAP THAT ACS CREATED FOR US. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BACA. I WAS JUST BASING MY COMMENT ON WHO WOULD BE ENFORCED BASED ON THE STATS WE HEARD FROM CHIEF. JUST TO CLARIFY THAT. I THINK THE LAST QUESTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION IS SOMETHING I'M ALWAYS VERY MINDFUL ABOUT IN MY OWN CORRIDOR. ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE DOING OPERATIONS ON CENTRAL AND ROUTE 66. THE DISPLACEMENT FURTHER INTO NEIGHBORHOOD INTO NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES OFF CENTRAL CORRIDOR. HOW WOULD THE CITY PREVENT DISPLACEMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS OFF OF THESE CORRIDORS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I THINK IT'S A COMPLEX ANSWER. IN THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT INDIVIDUALS OBVIOUSLY MOVE FREELY ACROSS THE CITY. AND THEREFORE, I DON'T HAVE A STRATEGY THAT WOULD SAY THAT IF YOU ARE WITHIN THE ZONE AND MOVE OUTSIDE OF THE ZONE THAT SOMEHOW YOU ARE THEN ENFORCED. OBVIOUSLY, THE ENFORCEMENT WOULD CONTINUE BASED ON THE ZONE'S CONDITIONS OUTSIDE OF THAT. I THINK WE -- IT DEPENDS ON SPECIFICALLY WHAT PORTIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE THAT YOU'RE RELATING TO ENFORCEMENT. BUT PARTICULARLY IN OUR ACTIONS THAT WE ALREADY TAKE AS A CITY, WE WORK ON CONTINUALLY ASSESSING WHERE INDIVIDUALS MAY BE, WHERE THEY MAY ME MOVING BETWEEN LOCATIONS. WE'RE DOING THIS WORK ACTIVELY AT ALL TIMES TO SUPPORT INDIVIDUALS. AS WE TALKED ABOUT, IT TAKES MULTIPLE INTERACTIONS WITH INDIVIDUALS TO PROVIDE THEM THE SUPPORT THEY POTENTIALLY WOULD ACCEPT. SO, WE WORK CAREFULLY TO TRY TO TREAT EACH INDIVIDUAL PERSON WE INTERACT WITH BASED UPON THE KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE WITH THEM. WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING LAW ENFORCEMENT OR A KRRBG ACS RESPONSE, WE HAVE DIFFERENT INTERACTIONS. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NOT AN ANSWER TO SAY WE PREVENT ANYONE FROM MOVING TO OTHER AREAS. HOWEVER, IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THESE EXTRA TOOLS THAT ARE WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE DESIGNATED WITHIN THAT ZONE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BACA TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WON'T SAY TOO MUCH. WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT THIS. THIS IS A SAFETY BILL, NOT AN UNHOUSED BILL. EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE IT ALL ABOUT THAT ONE TOPIC. THAT SAID, IT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES IN OUR CITY, FOUGHT JUST IN OUR CITY, IN THE COUNTRY. I WAS JUST IN CALIFORNIA, AND OTHER CITIES. THIS IS THE PROBLEM. IT'S BASED ON 50 YEARS OF FAILED FEDERAL AND STATE HOUSING POLICY. 50 YEARS OF FEDERAL AND STATE MENTAL AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH POLICIES. 70 YEARS OF HOUSING SEGREGATION AND LACK OF HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. IT IS A MASSIVE PROBLEM. OUR JOB IS TO CREATE A SAFE AND HEALTH COMMUNITY FOR ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS. AS WAS SAID, TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE SIMULTANEOUSLY THAT ARE OPPOSITE. WE CAN HAVE LOTS OF SERVICES TO HELP PEOPLE AND THESE PEOPLE CAN ALSO BE CAUSING PROBLEMS BY NOT TAKING THE SERVICES. IT EXISTS. I DON'T WANT IT LAY BLAME ON THE COUNTY OR ON THE D.A., WHICH THERE ARE ISSUES THERE. I CAN ONLY CONTROL WHAT WE CONTROL. ALTHOUGH, I SPENT LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE QUITE A BIT OF TIME AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE WORKING ON CRIMINAL COMPETENCY BECAUSE A LOT OF FOLKS CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS. THEY JUST CAN'T. SO, THIS CREATED AN AVENUE TO GET FOLKS THAT LITERALLY CAN'T MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. IDEALLY, FOLKS WITH WILL TAKE THE SERVICE AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR HELP AND NOT GO TO THE ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD AND CHOOSE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. IDEALLY, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY. THIS DOES PROVIDE OUTREACH. ACS, STREET MEDICINE, ALL THOSE ARE IN THERE. IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ACS ORIGINAL PURPOSE, BUT NOWADAYS THEY'RE DOING VOUCHERS. THAT'S WHY I PROPOSED ELEVATING THE ACS DIRECTOR TO CHIEF. VOTE YES ON THAT, PLEASE, EVERYBODY. AND BEYOND THAT, EVEN SIMPLE THINGS LIKE PEOPLE HAVING THE DIGNITY TO USE THE RESTROOM. IS TWO ENOUGH? NO. WE STARTED WITH $2.5 MILLION FOR PUBLIC CLEANING UP. I RODE WITH THEM. IT WAS HORRIBLE. NOW WE HAVE TWO DOWNTOWN. ONE IN UPTOWN. ONE IN OLD TOWN. NOT ENOUGH, BUT IT'S HAPPENING. LOTS OF THINGS ARE HAPPENING. THIS BILL DOES NOT EXIST IN A VACUUM. I URGE OVER TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND WORK ON THAT. I MET WITH ACLU. WITH THAT ALL OF THAT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. O-14, AS AMENDED SEVEN TIMES. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. TELLES: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW ON TO O-23. COUNCILORS -- COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. GROUT: AMENDING THE POLICE OVERSIGHT ORDINANCE TO CLARIFY THE CPOA'S AUTHORITY TO INVESTIGATE APD DURS -- PERSONNEL. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THE APOA PRESIDENT, MR. WILLOUBY. THEY MET WITH COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND THE STAFF. AND THEY CAME UP WITH A GOOD AMENDMENT. I'M GOING TO LET COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN MOVE IT. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO DEFER AFTERWARDS. ONE MORE TIME. I DID HEAR FROM MR. WILLOUBY. WE WANT ONE MEETING PRIOR TO PASSING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. THIS IS IMPORTANT. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. BEFORE I MOVE IT, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY MY MEETING WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT GARCIA, DEPUTY CHIEF VEGA AND CPOA STAFF. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT ONE. WHICH WE'RE GOING TO PUT ON THE SCREEN. THAT IS BEGINNING ON PAGE ONE, LINE 24, WE'RE GOING TO STRIKE B IN ITS ENTIRETY ANDSERT THE FOLLOWING. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS ORDINANCE, APD PERSONNEL SUBJECT TO -- INCLUDES APD SWORN OFFICERS AND THE FOLLOWING NON-SWORN PERSONNEL EMPLOYED BY APD. THAT INCLUDES POLICE SERVICE AIDS, TRANSIT SAFETY OFFICERS, PRISONER TRANSPORT UNIT OFFICERS, AND ANY OTHER NONSWORN APD PERSONNEL WHO ENGAGE AND DIRECT INTERACTION WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, EXERCISE ENFORCEMENT REGULATORY OR PUBLIC SAFETY RELATED AUTHORITY, PERFORM DUTIES HISTORICALLY OR OPERATIONALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT -- FOR EXAMPLE RESPONDING TO CALLS FOR SERVICE OR CONDUCTING TRAFFIC OR CRASH RELATED, PREPARING REPORTS FOR INVESTIGATIONS, WHERE UNIFORMS OR OTHERWISE PRESENT AS PUBLIC SAFETY OR LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL. AND UTLEN ON-BODY DEVICES OR SYSTEMS IN THE COURSE OF OFFICIALS DUTIES. THERE'S A PARAGRAPH THAT TALKS ABOUT -- THE JURISDICTION OF THE CPOA SHALL NOT BE LIMITED OR VOIDED BY JOB TITLE, CLASSIFICATION, EMPLOYMENT STATUS OR THE CREATION OF NEW UNITS, PROGRAMS OR POSITIONS WITHIN APD WHERE SUCH PERSONNEL FUNCTIONS DESCRIBED IN THIS ORDINANCE AND SEE NOTHING IN THIS SECTION SHALL BE CONSTRUED TO LIMIT THE AUTHORITY OF THE CPOA TO INVESTIGATE NON-SWORN APD PERSONNEL WHEN SUCH PERSONNEL ARE SUBJECTS TO COMPLAINTS ARISING FROM SWORN APD PERSONNEL. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE BY COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS IS REALLY -- I JUST WANT TO THANK SUPERINTENDENT GARCIA. DEPUTY CHIEF VEGA, WHO I DON'T BELIEVE IS HERE. THEY MET WITH THE CPOA STAFF AND MYSELF LAST WEEK. I REALLY APPRECIATED THE COLLABORATIVE WORK TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WORKED FOR EVERYONE. I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THAT. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT WITH THIS AMENDMENT IS WHEN WE ORIGINALLY WROTE THE CPOA ORDINANCE, THERE WERE A FEW PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS -- AIDS -- AND THERE WERE NO TRANSIT SECURITY OFFICERS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T EXIST YET. THEY WERE STILL OVER IN TRANSIT. SO, AS THINGS HAVE CHANGED, WE SAW THE NEED TO UPDATE THIS TO CLARIFY WHEN CPOA IS GOING TO BE INVESTIGATING FOLKS. AND THE LANGUAGE THAT IS BEFORE US TONIGHT IS VERY CLEAR. APD SIGNED OFF. THE SUPERINTENDENT OF POLICE REFORM SIGNED OFF ON IT. THE CPOA SIGNED OFF ON IT. THE COUNCILORS INVOLVED HAVE SIGNED THEIR NAMES ON IT. WE WILL BE MEETING WITH THE POLICE UNION HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK TO CLARIFY IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER CHANGES NEEDED BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. WITH THAT, I HOPE WE CAN GET THIS ADOPTED SO WE ARE ALL WORKING FROM THE SAME FINAL VERSION HAD WHEN WE MEET WITH THE POLICE UNION THIS WEEK. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO -- NO. DO WE? NOT ON THE AMENDMENT. WE'RE ON THE AMENDMENT. I'M SORRY. ANY OTHER COUNCILORS? SEEING NONE. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: YOU WANTED TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION? >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE DO WANT TO DEFER TO THE -- AS AMENDED, TO THE MAY 18th COUNCIL MEETING. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION, AND A SECOND FOR DEFERRAL TO MAY 18th BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? [ ROLL CALL ] -- >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT. DO WE HAVE AN R-23 COMING UP? WAS THAT A TYPO ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT? I FEEL AS THOUGH PUBLIC COMMENT PROBABLY IS -- >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, R-23 WAS ONE OF THE BILLS THAT WAS PULLED FROM THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: GREAT. WE'RE NOW ON R-6. THOSE ARE COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. R-6 IS DESIGNATING APPROXIMATELY 36 ACRES ON SAN PEDRO DRIVE AS BLIGHTED. APPROVING AN EXPANSION AMENDMENT TO THE BOUNDARY OF THE NEAR HEIGHTS METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AREA. IMPROVING CORRESPONDING NON-SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO THE NEAR HEIGHTS METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AREA PLAN. AMENDING SECTION 1-12-11 OF THE CODE OF RESOLUTION. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. ROGERS: SECOND. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS FOR DO PASS OF R-6. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS AREA IS JUST NORTH OF MY PROPERTY THAT I OWN. AND I DON'T THINK IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. JUST TO -- SO THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I AM GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS CONVERSATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WITH THAT ON THE RECORD, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS IS AN EXISTING MR THAT HAS BEEN IN COUNCILOR ROGERS'S AREA ONLY. WE'RE DOING LOT OF WORK ON SAN PEDRO. IMPROVING IT WITH STREET SCAPING. A LOT OF ATTENTION FROM A NONPROFIT FOR THE ENTIRE AREA. ALL THE WAY UP TO I-40. SO, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO EXPAND THE EXISTING -- COUNCILOR ROGERS' EXISTING MR INTO DISTRICT SEVEN SO WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER AND ALL THE BUSINESSES ALONG THAT LINE CAN HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE TOOLS FROM THE MR TOOL BOOK. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. AS YOU SAY THAT, WE SHOULD DO AN MR ALL THE WAY FROM ONE END OF CENTRAL TO ANOTHER. COME ON DOWN. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE REVITALIZE SAN PEDRO PARTNERSHIP. WE'RE THE ACCREDITED MAIN STREET PROGRAM FOR SERVING THE AREA OF SAN PEDRO TO I-40. I'LL KEEP THIS SHORT. THIS IS AN AREA OF TOWN THAT HAS EXPERIENCED LONG-TERM DISINVESTMENT. IT NEEDS FOCUSED ATTENTION. REVITALIZE SAN PEDRO EXISTS. I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR ROGERS, MRA STAFF, FOR INVITING OUR OGZ TO -- ORGANIZATION TO WORK ON THIS. WE SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE USING THE TOOLS TO REVITALIZE THE CORRIDOR. THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANY QUESTIONS? WITH THAT, I GUESS -- MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES ON A 7-0 VOTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: I APOLOGIZE, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I DIDN'T ASK FOR A CLOSE. THIS IS R-15. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. R-15 IS ADOPTING THE 2026 ACTION PLAN IN PROGRAM INVESTMENT SUMMARY FOR THE EXPENDITURE OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIPS PROGRAM AND MORTGAGES SOLUTIONS GRANT. WORKFORCE HOUSING TRUST FUNDS. PROVIDING AN APPROPRIATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS FOR THE 2026 U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENT. AND WORKFORCE HOUSING. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN FOR DO PASS OF R-19. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT A. OR ONE. THEY'RE IN THE iPADS. WE'LL HAVE IT UP ON THE SCREEN. THANK YOU. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE BEGINS ON PAGE ONE, LINE NINE, AND WE ARE JUST TAKING OUT THE WORD WORKFORCE HOUSING TRUST FUND. AND ON PAGE ONE, LINE 21, WE'RE GOING TO ADD THE FOLLOWING CLAUSE, WHEREAS, WORKFORCE TRAINING TRUST FUND IN THE AMOUNT OF $10 MILLION WERE APPROPRIATED IN R-25-206. AND THIS TITLE OF THE LEGISLATION RESOLUTION APPROPRIATE WORKFORCE HOUSING TRUST FUND, BUT IT REALLY DOES NOT. THOSE FUNDS WERE ALREADY APPROPRIATED. WE JUST WANTED TO CALL THAT OUT FOR ALIGNMENT. IN THE ATTACHMENT THAT ACOMPANIES THE LEGISLATION, BUT IT DOES REFERENCE THE WORKFORCE HOUSING TRUST FUND. IT'S APPROPRIATE TO KEEP IN THE LEGISLATION. IT'S NOT APPROPRIATED IN THE LEGISLATION. WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR ROGERS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: I APOLOGIZE. WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. OKAY. IT'S OKAY. DON'T WORRY. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. PEÑA: THAT AMENDMENT PASSES. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. COUNCILOR ROGERS TO CLOSE. OH, NOW WE HAVE A SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HAVE TAD SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> WELL, CITY MONEY FOR, AS I SAID TONIGHT, FOR EVERY PROJECT. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. INCLUDING NOW HOUSING. YOU ALL WISE GUYS. NINE WISE GUYS. YOU SHOULD EVER THINK ABOUT IT. SHUFFLE MONEY AROUND. BACK AND FORTH EVERY YEAR. THAT'S NOT SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEM. YOU EVER LOOK AT WHERE PROBLEM COMES FROM AND HOW TO APPROACH THIS PROBLEM? THAT'S ALL HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. NOW, WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. COUNCILOR ROGERS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THIS IS NOT ABOUT MOVING MONEY AROUND. THIS IS ABOUT ACCEPTING MONEY FROM OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR HOUSING DOLLARS WHICH WE WANT TO DO. SO WE CAN HELP MORE FOLKS WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING. THANK YOU. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW UNDER FINAL ITEM UNDER FINAL ACTIONS. THIS IS COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, R-19. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE AND USE OF GRANT FUNDS FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE CEED BLOCK GRANT AND AUTHORIZING APPROPRIATION TO THE GENERAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT IN FISCAL YEAR 2026. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. PEÑA: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT FOR DO PASS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IN KEEPING WITH THE LAST ONE, THIS IS GETTING MONEY FROM THE STATE IN THIS SITUATION. THESE ARE FUNDS THAT WILL HELP LOW INCOME FOLKS IMPROVE THEIR ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND REDUCE ENERGY BURDEN. VERY, VERY THANKFUL TO THE STATE FOR THE GRANT. >>COUN. PEÑA: ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. TELLES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE'RE NOW ON FINAL ITEM OF THE EVENING, WHICH IS OTHER BUSINESS. WE ARE ON EC-115, VETO OF R-26-12 ADJUSTING FISCAL YEAR 2026 OPERATING APPROPRIATIONS FOR CERTAIN FUNDS AND PROGRAMS. IF A COUNCILOR WISHES TO ATTEMPT AN OVERRIDE OF THE VETO THEY WILL MAKE A MOTION TO OVERRIDE, IF NO MOTION IS MADE OR IF A SECOND IS NOT RECEIVED, THE VETO STANDS. ALSO IF A MOTION IS MADE AND SECOND IS RECEIVED BUT SIX VOTES ARE NOT OBTAINED IN FAVOR OF THE OVERRIDE, THEN THE MAYOR'S VETO STANDS. IS THERE A MOTION TO OVERRIDE? SEEING NONE. WE'LL MOVE TO EC-145. THIS IS -- OKAY. VETO OF O-26-22, AMENDING SECTION 14-3-3-2 OF THE UNIFORM HOUSING CODE TO ESTABLISH COOLING SYSTEMS, PERFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS. IF A COUNCILOR WITH WISHES TO OVERRIDE, I WASN'T READ THAT AGAIN. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO OVERRIDE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. TO OVERRIDE THE MAYORS VETO OF EC-145. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? IT'S NOT EVEN A LATE EVENING. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. GRACE FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> I ASK YOU UPHOLD THE VETO. THE MAYORS MESSAGE IS THE AMENDED VERSION GIVES LESS PROTECTION. HE IS RIGHT. IT'S A WEAK BIRL DRESSED UP AS RENTER PROTECTION. WE CAN READ. COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR GROUT VOTED TO AMEND THIS TOMERIC MAKE IT WORSE. IN A CITY WHERE APRIL ALREADY KILLS PEOPLE AND WHERE SENIORS, CHILDREN AND, AND PEOPLE WITH CHRONIC ILLNESS CANNOT SURVIVE 90 DEGREE HEAT. THAT IS THE RECORD THEY WILL HAVE TO DEFEND IN EVERY DOOR INTO EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION. THE RECORD SHOWS WHAT HAPPENED PROCEDURALLY IF YOU HOPED NO ONE NOTICED. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN MOVED TO WITHDRAW THE BILL. COUNCILOR PEÑA WAS PREPARED TO ALLOW WITH THE DRAWL AND WAS CONFERRING WITH COUNCILOR CHAMPINE UNTIL LEWIS INTERJECTED AND COUNCILOR PEÑA REVERSED THE COURSE. THAT IS NOT LEADERSHIP. THAT IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNCIL WHO DOES NOT UNDERSTAND HER OWN RULES. THE BODY DOES ITS BUSINESS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT. WE'RE WATCHING. IT'S ON THE RECORD. NONE OF YOU GET TO VOTE LIKE THIS AND RUN ON A RECORD OF CARING ABOUT WORKING FAMILIES. WE SEE THROUGH THE LIES. COUNCILOR BASSAN, AS YOUR CONSTITUENTS, I SEE THROUGH YOUR LIES. >> LISA FOLLOWED BY OCTAVIO. >> I AM CONCERNED THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH AN ORDINANCE OR PROGRAM COSTS. I KNOW WHEN WE GO TO THE LEGISLATURE THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO FISCAL IMPACT REPORTS FOR LEGISLATION THAT IS BEING PREPARED BUT THE LAST COUPLE BILLS AND THIS ONE BEING CONSIDERED TO VETO, WHAT IS THE COST OF NOT HAVING IT OR HAVING IT? COULD WE HAVE SOME KIND OF AN ORDINANCE THAT WHENEVER A BILL IS SUBMITTED TO THIS -- IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE A LOT OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS, I HEARD OVER AND OVER, HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST? WE DON'T KNOW. WHO IS GOING TO BE DOING IT SOME WE DON'T KNOW. THIS IS OUR TAXPAYER MONEY. THIS ORDINANCE, WHAT WILL BE THE FISCAL IMPACT OF THIS ORDINANCE? VETOED OR NOT. WE DON'T KNOW IN THE COMMUNITY HOW MUCH MONEY IS BEING SPENT ON WHENEVER I LISTEN TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, AGAIN AND AGAIN, IS THIS PROGRAM EFFECTIVE, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? DID NOT GET THOSE ANSWERS. I SUGGEST WE DO. >> OCTAVIO. HE IS NOT PRESENT. AND THE THREE SIGNF-UP . >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO OVERRIDE THE MAYOR'S VETO OF EC-145. ANY QUESTIONS? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. TELLES: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >> FAILS ON A 5-4 VOTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THAT WAS THE FINAL ITEM OF THE EVENING. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS -- THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS ADJOURNED.