City of Corpus Christi | Planning Commission Meeting: August 6, 2025
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I'll go ahead. It's 5:30, so I'll go ahead and call this meeting to order. Miss Martinez, could you please call row? >> Yes, ma'am. Um, Vice Chairman Salasar Garza >> here. >> Uh, Commissioner Miller will be absent today. Uh, Commissioner Mandel here. >> Commissioner Munoz >> here. >> Commissioner Hedrickk >> here. >> Commissioner Bud >> here. >> Commissioner Kentu >> here. Commissioner Titleman >> here. >> Commissioner Tyki >> here. >> We have a quorum to present the meeting. >> All right. Thank you. Uh could you also please read us the public comment, please? >> Ma'am, citizens will be allowed to attend and make public comments in person at the city planning commission's meeting. The public is invited to speak on any agenda item and any other items that pertain to the planning commission. Comments are limited to three minutes if you choose to speak during this period. You will not be allowed to speak again when the specified item is being considered in order of agenda. Okay, thank you. At this time, I'll go ahead and open up the public comment. If anybody would like to come and speak on anything other than the agenda this evening, uh, please come forward. If not, then I'll go ahead and close the public comment and move on to the approval of absences for Chairman York for July 23, 2025. I have a motion. >> Commissioner Mandel, I move that we approve the absence of Chairman York from July 23, 2525. >> Second. I have a motion and a second. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> All those opposed. Motion passes. Moving on to the approval of minutes for July 23. Do I have a motion? >> Make a motion to approve the minutes. >> Second. >> I have a motion and a second. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> All those opposed. Motion passes. Moving on to discussion and possible action for election of chairman and vice chairman. Uh, at this time, do we have any nominations for vice chair? >> It's Commissioner Moss. I nominate Brian Mandel for vice chair. >> A second. >> I have a motion and a second. All those in favor? >> I >> I. >> All those opposed? Motion passes. Congratulations. >> Thank you, >> Vice Chair Mendel. Uh, moving on to uh election for uh chairman. >> I'd like to make a nomination for Cynthia Salazar Garza for chairman of planning commission. I second. >> I have a motion and a second. All those in favor? >> I. >> All those opposed? Motion passes. And u for that I just want to say thank you commissioners for the opportunity to help serve our community and as chairman for the planning commission. Um moving on to uh consent public hearing discussion and possible actions A, B, and C. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh for the record, Andrew Deus with development services reading into tonight's consent agenda. Starting with letter A, plat item number two, Pyra Island number two, which is a replat. Item number three, a final plat point unit 2. Staff has reviewed both plats and deemed them that they are ready for approval. They meet Texas Local Government Code as well as the unified development code terms. Moving to letter B, plats, appeals, and time extensions. So these are six plats which I'm about to read into the record for both the appeal. So what an appeal is is that whenever we have a plat that has passed its expiration, we as a city will notify the applicable engineer of record and let them know an expiration has occurred. Within 30 days, they have the ability to file for an appeal to essentially resurrect the plot and uh bring it back to life, allow it to continue to move forward. In this case, there are public improvements that are moving forward. Uh, so we are sure that forward momentum will occur. So I'm going to read in these next six plats. They are combo items, meaning both it's the appeal and the granting of the one-year time extension. So I'm going to start with number four, which is a final for Vidian phase 1. Item number five, which is a final Vidian phase 2. Item number six, a final for Valencia phase 1. Item seven, a final for Valencia phase 2. Item eight, Ventana's phase one, and item nine, Ventanas phase 2. Staff recommends approval of both the appeal and the one-year time extension for each of these final plat. And then finally on the consent, we have letter C for zoning item number 10, which is zoning K ZN8548 Al Development, Inc. It is a request from the CN1 Neighborhood Commercial District to the CG2 general commercial district. Staff is recommending denial of that zoning case. And then item number 11, zoning KZN8622, John Tomkins, a request from the RMAT with the island overlay to the RMT multif family district with the island overlay and a plan unit development. Staff recommends approval. With that, that concludes tonight's consent agenda. Be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> Okay. Thank you, Andrew. Uh, commissioners, do we have any questions for staff? on these items. >> Can you give the presentation on the item number 10 for the zoning? >> Sure. >> Sure. If you'd like to vote on the other items first, just for parliamentary procedure and then we can circle back to number 10. >> Yes. I go ahead and like to go ahead u and right now and vote for items um abstaining commissioner Hendrickk to on items four through nine at this time. Okay. So, commissioners, do we have any questions for staff on items four through nine? If not, then I'll go ahead and open up the public comment uh on items four through nine. If anybody would like to come and speak on these items, please come forward. >> Right. >> If not, then I'll go ahead and close the public comment for items four through nine and entertain a motion or more discussion. >> Commissioner Mandel, I move that we approve items four through nine as presented by I second. >> I have a motion and a second. All those in favor? I. All those opposed? Motion passes. And uh now we'll go ahead and move on to items two and three. Um >> Madame Chair, would you want to include number 11 with that as well? >> I Okay, so items 2, three, and 11, not 10. Correct. 10 is the one you've asked to be pulled. >> Okay. >> I have questions on number 11 as well. >> Okay. >> All right. So, uh any discussions for the items two, three, and 10? >> 11. >> I'm sorry. 11. >> Yes. Sorry. Yeah. So, on number 11, um doing a putt on here. So, I imagine it's going to be an HOA, I'm assuming. >> Yes, sir. Um, do you know the width of that street? Um, I couldn't really read it on the the drawing. >> Typically with your puds, the width is going to be somewhere in the 22 foot range. >> So, that street's wide enough for traffic going both ways. Wide enough for uh fire. I assume they haven't approved it yet because it's not actually a plat. It's just a >> correct. Fire requires 20 ft of unimpeded access. That's typically where you'll have a rule that says no on driveway parking to prevent blocking that access. >> Okay. And then it will be private streets. >> Yes, sir. >> And then also on the setbacks, uh the rear yard setback is still 5T for the building. It look >> the RMAT district itself has a five foot and they're not asking for deviation from it. >> Okay. So, they're not going to be right on the property line. They'll be at least five feet >> to the rear. Correct. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Do we have any other questions for staff? If not, I'll go ahead and uh open up the public comment on items 2, three, and 11. If anyone would like to come and speak on these items, please come forward. If not, then I'll go ahead and close the public comment and entertain a motion. It's commission. I uh move that we approve items 2, 3, and 11. >> I have a motion. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> I have a motion, a second. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> All those opposed. >> Motion passes. Moving on now to item number 10. Commissioners, do we have any questions for staff on items number 10? >> Sure. Uh I'm sure it can pull up the presentation for us and then hopefully this perfect. So tonight this is AL development which is a request in district 4 uh south side of the city of Corpus Christi. This is the request is from the CN district to the CG2. So the CN1 district is your standard neighborhood commercial. This is where you'll see small strip centers. You'll see something in the realm of u probably no larger than a Walgreens. You may see small drive-thru restaurants like a Chick-fil-A, a Wendy's, that type of scale. It's also designed for offices and medical uses. Those are the uh primary uses that you'll find in the CN1 district. CG2 is an upgrade from that district. So, it expands the size of your buildings, meaning there's no limit on the size of restaurants. There's no limit on the size of retail development. It also allows for bars and nightclubs that are standalone businesses, as well as mini storage and car dealerships. So you're going to have things that are far more intense in the CN1 district. And of course with that comes noise and other types of impacts to surrounding neighboring properties. So moving to the next slide, we see that you have a proposed use to for commercial development. Now the applicant stated in their report that uh they would like to build a commercial strip center, which keep in mind is allowed today in the CN1 district. They did not explain what type of uses that would demand the CG2 that is necessary. Uh what they listed again in their request for commercial strip center is allowed today without a reasonzoning needed. It is within the Southside area development plan. the future land use map which uh just for the benefit of commissioner Tiffky who's new to us that is what we call our crystal ball to see into the future of how areas may change or may stay the same as far as how we predict land uses may change so some areas will be shaded yellow for housing some may be in this case brown for high density residential you'll see others for red for commercial blue for schools and and uh as it goes down the line so we show on the future land use map for it to remain highdensity residential uh which is similar to in the upper leftand corner the RM1 district which was already approved and has an existing town complex. So it fits within the character of the neighborhood uh as it's already been established. As far as adjacent land uses on two sides we have your standard RS6 single family residential districts. Across to the left we have another sister site that is also zoned neighborhood commercial. That is where Moody's Meat Market is located. just so kind of everybody can put in their head where what part of the city this is in. And then across the street, we have a duplex style of development and some apartments. Of the 40 notices we sent out, we received zero in opposition and one in favor. Now, when it comes to staff analysis and recommendation, this is uh essentially like we like to say how cow eats the cabbage as Al used to say or rubber meets the road, whichever euphemism you'd like to use, but it is when we do the analysis of how does the request match our plans as a city, both the comprehensive plan as a whole, the area development plan, in this case it is the Southside area development plan, and the future land use map, as well as things like like I mentioned earlier, character of the neighborhood. Does this request fit in the style of the neighbors that it surrounds? So, one, while it may be consistent with the comprehensive plan, meaning you will typically find general commercial development on a street to the level of Holly being an arterial road, you won't find it midblock, meaning uh I have a next slide just to kind of give you an idea. So, the subject property is what we call midblock, meaning it's not at a hard intersection with another arterial. In this case, on the corner on your left hand side, it is the intersection of Holly and Airline. That's where the athletic club is located. That is surrounded by general commercial. That is where you're going to have your extremely dense retail type of environment. As you move down the corridor, it starts to step down in the intensity development. You see far more residential. You will see a few duplex uses like I mentioned apartment uses which is ideal to act as a buffer from that intense commercial environment at the intersection. In this case uh just like I mentioned with Moody's meat market you will see smaller retail developments which is why this site and why we recommend that it remains CN1. It is that lower threshold of commercial development which typically will have far less of an impact to their residential neighbors. So we're not getting calls of loud noise. We're not getting calls of late night traffic. It is going to stay at a far more agreeable level and consistent to those uh folks that live around it. But going back to the slide, this is just to provide you more of a wider perspective. We find that the request is inconsistent with the future land use map. Of course, it is inconsistent with the area development plan. Again, it alerts types of uses like bars and nightclubs in which we have known to cause issue when adjacent to residential development. And then lastly, it is midblock which is again something we don't recommend as it's stretching that far more intense retail development into a neighborhood rather than keeping it on its borders at major intersections. And with that, if there are any questions, I'd be happy to address them. >> Thank you, Andrew. Uh, commissioners, do we have any questions on >> just a comment and I think it's uh you mentioned it in your presentation, but it's important to note that they said that it's going to be just a small commercial development, but once you change the zoning, if that property changes hands and the zoning has changed, they can do whatever they want. >> That's correct. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Andrew, did they give you any indication why they would need that zoning they requested versus >> Not not clearly. I mean typ I would tell you from past experience folks will request the CG2 district just to give themselves the widest marketable uh availability of types of uses where we kind of have to act as the gatekeepers the watchguards of the neighborhoods and and we've gone through this several times along Yorktown and received pretty clear feedback from certain council members to say we don't like to see this encroach and we 100% agree it's consistent with our plans to say we don't want to put general commercials So, you have businesses like, not to name names, but a certain nightclub at Yorktown and Simmeron that consistently causes problems. And if I had a dollar for every phone call I received at least once a week, I could have retired two years ago of issue because of late night hours and that it's a standalone bar. Now, technically, you could have a bar and grill stay open, but restaurants will usually not have a rowdy crowd that's going to stay open till 2:00 a.m. Uh, nobody's eating T-Bones at 2 a.m. and causing a problem at a steakhouse where you do see that problem for a a bar nightclub that's staying open to those late hours. >> And even that, that's at a corner, too. It's not even mid block. >> Correct. >> So, thank you. How large is this track of property? >> This track? Good question. My notes, it is 3.3 acres. >> And do we know the the depth of it? >> It is roughly about 300 280 300 feet somewhere in that ballpark. >> Okay. And can you explain uh with CG2 zoning, if a bar is allowed, they do have to put some sort of fencing or sound barrier up. And what is that exactly? So depending on where the use is located, that's a very good question. So with uh shopping center design, uh if you can think of my favorite one to use is the Cancun that's along Yorktown right next to Simmeron because that's an older version of what we see today. So Cancun, you have to make this hard turn if you ever get in their drive-through lane. It seems like you're about to hit the fence every time you try to loop around the building. That is the old style, meaning you could have your drive-through lane right up against the property line. very few very little separation. If you go just down the street to where I think it's Chops and Eggs is located along their back property line, if you've ever been in that area, they have a solid masonry wall that they have to erect and they have to maintain about a 15t separation. The question that has come up and this is not just picking on one development versus the other is the effectiveness of that buffering. So, yes, the code absolutely requires a noise attenuation wall. If I have a delivery lane back there, if I have dumpster lanes back there, if I have a drive-through lane back there, I have to install that wall. Some developers get creative and they choose not to put any of those things along the back property line. So, I can enforce that rule. And that's I don't want to say a loophole, but that's something we have to investigate in the UDC of how do I require it regardless because that noise is going to happen. Even if I face my delivery lane the other way, it's not going to stop the noise. But yes, technically the code does require it. If those triggers happen okay >> drive-through lane, delivery lane, or some type of uh loading, unloading service alley, then it requires >> just a bar and let's say you have a patio, are you required to do that? >> That's a dining area, so it wouldn't trigger a drive-through lane, a delivery lane, or any type of of service alley. That's that's the rub. >> Yeah, because ultimately it's RS6 zoning there. And I'm just thinking of myself and I would hate to have a a bar right behind my house. And you know, I don't know how deep those lots are generally, but they're probably 120 ft or something and it'd be pretty close. So, okay. Thank you. >> Yes, sir. >> Any other comments or questions? Well, I'd like to say that I'm glad that development services is taking on something like this because I too have been in the Cancun restaurant and through the drive-thru and it is just I mean a step or two away from the person's backyard and I think that taking on this initiative is um is a good step for uh our city and making sure that we continue to try to develop these kind of um making making precautions on all these kind of things that we do for the benefit of the people that have been living there for I'm sure more than 10 20 years. So, I'm glad to hear that. Thank you. Um I'll go ahead and now open up the public comment um for item 10. If there's anyone here to speak on um item number 10, please come forward. If not, then I'll go ahead and close a public comment and uh entertain a motion. As Commissioner Munoz, I will move to approve staff's denial of item number 10. >> Is that correct? >> That's That's correct. >> Second it. >> I have a motion and a second to deny item number 10. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> All those opposed. Motion passes. Okay. Moving on to uh the presentation for the proposed fiscal year 2025 2026 capital improvement program budget [Music] Hi, good afternoon, commissioners. Uh, thank you for your time today. My name is Rudy Pñena. I'm the capital budget manager. Uh, with me today, I have uh Amy Kelly and John Wuarez, the director and assistant director for the office of management and budget. Um, I also have uh Lois Hosa, the um capital improvement coordinator, and Camille Terrace, the previous uh capital budget manager and now assistant director over at CCW. So, today we brought you a short presentation uh summarizing the FY2026 proposed capital budget. Uh the budget, the the the uh presentation, it's just a quick summary. It's going to highlight a couple of projects as well as the funding source by department. We've also handed out the full uh copy of the proposed capital budget. In the uh copies that you have, you'll see detailed descriptions which include both funding and expenditures for each individual project in the proposed capital budget. Today, we're not asking any action be taken by the uh planning commission. Instead, we will return in two weeks at the August 20th meeting. At that point, we will ask for the planning commission to recommend adoption of the budget to city council. And with that said, I'll get to the first slide. And so on this slide, we've got the uh CIP funding use by department broken down. Uh leading the list here is water and wastewater. Uh combine those two make up 65% of the budget. Once we add in the streets department, less utility support, we're at 3/4 of the budget. Uh 75% of it with those three departments. Uh gas follows at 39.8 million. uh parks and recreation which includes marina. Then public health and safety that includes our fire, police and solid waste at 4.4%, storm water at 4%, economic development at 3% and then public facilities and airport each at about 1 and a.5% of the budget. The total for all of the departments is $764.5 million. Moving on to the funding sources by uh program revenue bonds at uh 40 and a.5% support uh those heavy utility projects that we saw in the previous slide. the state water implementation fund of Texas or Swift loan at $210 million is uh support for the inner harbor water treatment campus and once we add the general obligation bonds at another 13.3% of the total budget we're at about 80% of the budget with those three funding sources uh grants and other agencies make up another 6.3% operating funds and certificates of obligation between 3 and 4% a piece the type A and B sales tax at 2.9%, residential street property tax at 2% and tax increment financing districts at just over a half a percent. Next slide, we get to one of the uh to the first department. Airport program highlights include parking lot improvements, rehabilitation of the international drive and curbside upgrades, building uh rehabilitation uh terminal building rehabilitations which include some HVAC work in replacing the chillers and fire pump base replacement and then the uh zero emissions vehicle charging station infrastructure and a purchase of some electric vehicles for the airport. Funding for these comes from FAA grants and the airport uh airport fund reserves. Next slide is the economic development program highlights here are convention center complex rehab and improvements. This includes Seline Auditorium in the arena, North Padre Island Seaw Wall and Packery channel repairs and improvements, seaw wall capital repairs and HVAC improvements for the art museum, the Harbor Playhouse and the Museum of Science and History. Funding for this for these programs come from the convention center complex fund, the tax reinvestment zone number two, and both type A and type B sales tax. Next, we have parks and recreation, which includes the marina. Uh highlights on the park side are the Cheryl Veterans Memorial Park Military Monument, uh construction of the clubhouse at the Oso Golf Center, Bill Wit and Commodore Park improvements, Greenwood baseball complex, and the Holly Road train trestle to tourism trail. On the marina side, we have parking lot resurfacing at the Cooper Alley Lhead and replacement of Finger Piers at the Lauren Street Tad. Funding for these parks programs come from geo bonds, general fund, grant funds, park development funds, text dot, and type A sales tax. Next, we've got the public facilities program highlights on this are the city hall parking lot. On the asset management side, service center secure enclave that's fencing in and securing the 85 acres at the Holly and intersection and a fleet vehicle wash facility. Also included is the CC detention center renovations. That's renovation renovating the existing building and adding an additional 2500 square ft to that location. Funding for this is from certificates of obligation and the general fund. Public health and safety includes uh firearm police, the fire station number eight and fire station number 10, construction of police substations, the far south location and the northwest location. Uh backup generator at police training academy, the solid waste facility complex which includes the transfer station and the administration building, the solid waste compost yard and design for the Sah Valenuela landfill sector 3B cell development. And funding for this comes from cos geo bonds general fund and grant funds streets program. This includes bond 2018 and 2022 arterials and collector streets some bond 2024 street projects and continuation of the residential street rebuild program as well as a street preventative maintenance program. Funding for the streets program is COS, go bonds, residential street property tax, revenue bonds, street fund maintenance program, and a type B sales tax. Next, we have the gas program highlights, the underground natural gas storage are included here. Gas line regulator stations replacement program, the gas transmission main gas operations building upgrades and uh construction of the division office, the cathotic protection upgrades and gas support for street projects coming in at 2.7 million. These are funding funded by utility revenue bonds. Right. Next, we have the storm water program. This includes ADA curb transitions, city-wide storm water infrastructure repair and improvement, storm water pipe inspection, storm water support for street projects as well at 19.3 million and utility revenue bonds fund this as well. Next we have wastewater program highlights for this are the wastewater treatment plant repairs and improvements, the citywide lift station repair, wastewater main and line replacement improvements as well as construction of the maintenance shop for wastewater. The support for street projects from wastewater is 10.2 million and is funded by grant funds, payo and utility revenue bonds. Finally, we have the water department. Um this includes the inner harbor water treatment campus, the newest county groundwater water supply program, the Mary roads pipeline assessment and improvement. Um infrastructure and facility improvements at the Owen Stevens uh chlorine system, the raw water influent and chemical facilities and sedimentation basin and also includes citywide line repair and replacement. Street support from the water uh department is 11.7 million. Funding sources for this are PIGO, the raw water fund, utility revenue bonds, the Swift loans, and Texas state funds. And that concludes our presentation today. Uh we do have physical copies of the books that was distributed available at public libraries and at the city secretar's office. Uh it's also available on the city's website. And um we stand by for questions. >> Thank you. Thank you for the presentation. Commissioners, do we have any questions? >> What's the total amount of the budget for this uh 26? >> The proposed budget is 764,541,650. So $764.5 million. As far as the uh the streets go, was there any thing in the budget for improving sidewalks or adding sidewalks to areas that may have been annexed and never got sidewalks or anything of that nature? >> So, we do have the um the ADA improvements and the those are curb transitions. Those are citywide. that's in the storm water uh CIP program that's replacing damaged infrastructure and outdated infrastructure. It's not full sidewalks. I believe that's just uh some of the curbs and some of the uh the the on the the ends of blocks. I don't believe there's anything uh sidewalk specific though. >> Okay. Yeah. Like for example, like District 2 and Cal and Flower Bluff, there's just areas where just no sidewalks exist. Um, sometimes it was county property that got annexed and was promised years ago to get sidewalks and never did and um, that's why I was asking that. >> Understand? Yes, sir. >> Go ahead. Any other questions? >> No, this is a touchy subject. The inner harbor campus thing. Um, if we are voting on this, how does the timeline work with, you know, council's decision? I think there was like a 30-day uh delay. How does that work with what we're going to be voting on in the future in two weeks? >> I'll let uh Camille speak to that. >> Camille Terrace, CCW and the prior capital budget manager. Um right now, what is being recommended is what's in the plan. If council decides to cancel the project before we get to you, we would remove it. if they decide to come decide afterwards like part of the budget approval, we'll remove it at the time that they approve it. So your your recommendation is that what's in here makes sense based on what's being planned. The decision in the harbor that's more of a council decision. So your recommendation is not saying, "Hey council, we as planning commission want you to do del." This is just your recommended plan as presented by the city uh at current status. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Any other questions, commissioners? >> I think we'll have a lot more questions probably in two weeks from now after we review more of this. >> I one of the one of the funding sources was a thing called PGO. Can you explain what that is? >> So that's just a pay as you go. It's operation. It's operate operating funds from the city. So it's not anything. It's not a debt instrument or anything. Those are operating funds. >> Is there a set is there a set amount that comes out of that? >> Um >> have we been budgeted? >> What's the budget piece of that? >> So Camil Harris again. Uh so you're referencing this is for CCW specific. We call it payo because you pay as you go. So this is based on annual appropriations. when we do our rates and we establish we anything that's above our mandatory reserve we send to CAP as cash funding. So if we have $100,000 we would the following the the year send 100,000 to cash fund to decrease the amount of debt we have to issue. >> Okay. >> Any other questions? >> I have a question uh regarding parks. Uh, so the nice, beautiful Bill Whit pool that just opened up, is that funded to be opened year round or is it just budgeted for because I heard it's going to close this week, which is pretty disappointing if we spend all that money to only have it open during the summer. >> So, >> I'm here for this. >> Hi, good evening. Amy Cowie, budget director. The Bilwit Park is funded for a partial year of operating for the uh recreational portion of the pool. That was a decision that was made in the FY25 budget due to the um funding constraints that we had. >> What is the recreational? What does that mean? >> So the slide and the and all of that. I believe the lane swimming may be available longer than the >> but the kids part basically with the slides is only open for partial. >> Correct. >> Okay. Thank you. I'm sure we're going to have a lot more questions when this comes up again because we just got this book to start looking over and um I mean I see some things here too, but I guess I'll just wait until we really get down to um I want to look through it a lot more thorough because um this is a lot that we're having to look at and to make a decision and recommendations for the city council. >> Yeah. And it is important for us to really um make sure we make the right decision and any kind of suggestions that we may make. Any other questions? Commissioners, >> if I may, I'm I'm sorry, but >> we would really love to hear your questions. So, if you're able to send us questions that you have as you're reviewing, we're happy to engage with you. We can even schedule a meeting with you if we need to. That way we can have a very productive meeting in two weeks from now. >> When is this plan to be presented to the city council? >> We will go for our first reading on September 2nd and then the second reading is September 9th. >> Okay. >> And then you're already starting the uh community outreach sessions. I think I saw a calendar for that already. >> Yes. So tomorrow morning we'll have our first city council workshop. It'll be primarily focused on the general fund. And then tomorrow evening is our first community input session. and we'll have seven of those in the next month. >> And how is it that the public starts to get notified for this? >> They've been notified. It's gone uh through the media, through the newspaper, um and and other various social media outlets. >> Okay. >> Yes, ma'am. >> All right. >> Can you get contact information to us on who to direct questions to? >> Um the uh email for Rudy is actually on the presentation. Um, and then all of our information, myself and John, um, even Lois's information is on our uh, department website. So, if you go to the city's website, departments management and budget, we're all we're all listed there. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you very much for that presentation. >> Thank you. >> Um, moving on to director's report. >> No director's report for this evening. >> Okay. Any future agenda items? Uh if none then I want to congratulate uh Tyki. That's how you pronounce it. We kept saying TKI but it's Tyki. Commissioner Tyki. Welcome aboard >> and thank you for coming on. Uh if not we adjourn.