SHIPS ... ... . >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. WE WOULD LIKE TO START THIS MEETING WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE. >>BILL CARLSON: HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE. >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION. >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO AND A SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. THE AYES HAVE IT. OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO GET RIGHT GOING. SO IF YOU ARE HERE TODAY -- LET'S START WITH THIS JUST TO GET IT OUT OF THE WAY. I THOUGHT WE WOULD GET OUT OF THE WAY. IF YOU TONIGHT WANT TO, WE DON'T HAVE TO. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY CAN BE SWORN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. NEVER MIND. ITEM NUMBER 1, TA/CPA 25-01. >>EMILY PHELAN: EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. THIS IS TCTA/CPA 25-01. 3606 WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD. 1.4 ACRES AND REQUEST FROM RESIDENTIAL-10 TO RESIDENTIAL-20. THE SITE IS IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT IN THE PALMA CEIA NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED HERE IN PINK. IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, THERE ARE A MIX OF USES. COMMERCIAL USES ARE TO THE WEST ON THE WEST SIDE OF HIMES. AND RESIDENTIAL USES, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED ARE TO THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE. THIS IS LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT SITE. THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD AT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON WEST BAY TO BAY. THE SUBJECT SITE IS IN THE REAR. THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON BEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD. SUBJECT SITE IS ON THE LEFT. THIS IS THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOME DIRECTLY BEHIND THE SUBJECT SITE. AND THIS IS THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD AND SOUTH HIMES AVENUE AT THE COMMERCIAL USE. THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED HERE IN BLACK AND REPRESENTED WITH THE RESIDENTIAL-10 DESIGNATION, WHICH IS TO THE NORTHWEST AND SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE. THIS RESIDENTIAL-20 RIGHT HERE AS A RESULT OF A PLAN AMENDMENT FROM 2018. AND FURTHER NORTH IS THE RESIDENTIAL-6 DESIGNATION AND FURTHER EAST IS THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35. AGAIN, THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED HERE REPRESENTED IN BLACK WITH THE RESIDENTIAL-20 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. UNDER THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL-10 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. SITE CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR ONE UNIT OR SLIGHTLY OVER 1700 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USE IT IS LOCATIONAL CRITERIA IS MET. ON THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL-20 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, THE SITE CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR TWO UNITS OR JUST OVER 2400 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES IF LOCATIONAL CRITERIA IS MET. LOCATIONAL CRITERIA IS EXPANDED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-20 DESIGNATION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND THIS AMENDMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE HOUSING POLICIES TO ENSURE AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING IS AVAILABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF TAMPA'S GROWING POPULATION. AND WITH THAT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THAT THE PROPOSED MAP AMENDMENT BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. CAN YOU PUT THE MAP BACK UP WITH THE FUTURE LAND USES? EITHER ONE IS FINE. YOU SAID THAT -- THAT IT IS RESIDENTIAL-10 NORTH, SOUTH AND WEST, BUT ISN'T IT ALSO EAST BECAUSE OF THAT ONE SECTION? >>EMILY PHELAN: YES, I OMITTED THAT. BUT THIS ONE PARCEL RIGHT HERE IS RESIDENTIAL-10 WHICH DOES -- IS IN BETWEEN -- >>LYNN HURTAK: SO SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL-10. >>EMILY PHELAN: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, APPLICANT. >> CAN I SWITCH TO THIS. I HAVE IT ON HERE. HELLO, EVERYONE. THIS IS THE REQUEST TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE OF 3606 WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD. AS THE UPDATE WAS MENTIONED BY CITY STAFF, PLANNING COMM COMMISSION'S PUBLIC HEARING -- IN THE PUB LETLIC HEARING IT WA FOUND CONSISTENT. A CHANGE FROM R-10 TO R-20 ON THE AGENDA. I JUST WENT THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOALS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. AND IF I WANT TO SUMMARIZE IT HERE WITHOUT GOING THROUGH EVERY DEDAY, THERE IS LIKE SMART GROWTH, PROMOTE COMPACT MIXED AUTO US, SUSTAINABILITY AND RESI RESILIENCE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ECONOMIC VITALITY, COMMUNITY CHARACTER, PUBLIC ENGAGE 789ENG I DIDN'T SEE ANY CONFLICT WITH THE GOALS. THE RATIONALE FOR CHANGING THE DESIGNATION FROM R-10 TO HAD R-20. OVERVIEW HIGHLIGHTING BENEFITS OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. SO PROPERTY IS R-10, SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE. PROPOSED USAGE ARE AS I MENTIONED. THERE ARE A FEW PICTURES FROM DIFFERENT ASPECTS FROM THE TOP. AS YOU SEE ON -- ON THE TOP LEFT FROM THE FRONT, IN THE MIDDLE, ON THE RIGHT, YOU SEE IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE LIGHT. WHEN THERE IS APPEAR RED LIGHT, THERE ARE CARS LINING UP ALL THE WAY TO DALE MABRY. THERE IS ALSO FROM THE CAMERA ON THE BOTTOM, YOU SEE THE -- THE -- SO KEY POINTS. R-20 ALLOW FOR HIGHER RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, THE PROPERTY MAKE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT UNLIKELY. THE BENEFITS OF, YOU KNOW, CHANGING THE R-20 AND MY GOAL IS MAKING IT AN OFFICE -- BACK OFFICE, LIKE A SMALL OFFICE WITH TWO, THREE STAFF. LOWER PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY. REDUCED TRAFFIC DUE TO STANDARD BUSINESS HOURS WHICH IS 9 TO 5:00, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. SO THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE INCREASED TRAFFIC UNLIKE WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS. DECREASED NOISE COMPARED TO RESIDENTIAL USE. NO TRAFFIC SILENCE. AND NO TRAFFIC ON HOLIDAYS AND WEEKENDS. A NICE TRANSITION FOR THE PROPERTIES BEHIND BAY TO BAY. THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES BY LIVING THERE AS THE FIRST ONE IS HIGH NOISE LEVELS FROM PROXIMITY TO BUSY INTERSECTION AND TRAFFIC LIGHT, AS I MENTIONED, PRIVACY AND SAFETY CONCERNS DUE TO IMMEDIATE ADJACENT TO THE TRAFFIC. AND DIFFICULTY OF MAINTAINING A PEACEFUL RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH FAMILY WITH YOUNG CHILDREN. THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW FROM THE T TOP. THERE ARE -- COMMERCIAL. ON THE MAP, I SEE THERE IS -- ACTUALLY THIS IS HOW IT LOOKS LIKE IF YOU SEE IN THE MIDDLE. AND YOU OPEN THE DOOR, YOU SEE THE STREET RIGHT HERE. THERE IS SOMETHING ACROSS THE STREET. SOME OFFICE OR SOMETHING. THE SAME BLOCK, THERE IS MOSTLY INSURANCE HERE. THERE IS A CHURCH ON THE CORNER OF DALE MABRY. AS YOU SEE THE TRAFFIC ALL THE WAY FROM DALE MABRY, THEY ALL TURN THIS WAY TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE BAYSHORE AREA. BUT THE OTHERS -- LIKE WEST OF DALE MABRY LOOK BETTER, BUT EAST OF DALE MABRY, ALL THE WAY TO BAYSHORE SEEMS DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC. SO ALIGNMENT WITH SURROUNDING LAND USES SHIFT FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL USE BETWEEN DALE MABRY AND HIMES. THAT IS CHANGING -- ACTUALLY IS GROWING IN THAT AREA. EXISTING OFFICES AND A CHURCH WITHIN THE BLOCK AS I MENTIONED. PREDOMINANTLY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES BEYOND HIMES AVENUE WHICH IS JUST ONE HOUSE DOWN. AND THE CORNER ONE HERE IS ALREADY AS MENTIONED -- SOMEBODY A RESULT IN 2018. THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN THE SUBJECT. AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, AND THIS IS THE PROPERTY. THERE IS ONE IN BETWEEN, BUT I TALKED WITH THEM, THEY WERE WILLING TO DO WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO AS WELL. BUT THEY JUST -- I DON'T KNOW, THEY DIDN'T HAVE PATIENCE OR TIME. BUT THEY ARE WILLING TO DO IF THIS HAPPENS. I AM SURE EVERYBODY ON THE STREET. AS YOU SEE IN THE SAME AREA, THERE ARE TWO PDs. STERLING AND DALE MABRY AND STERLING, THERE ARE TWO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING. SO THIS WILL BE, IN MY OPINION, MORE EFFICIENT LAND USE -- PROMOTE EFFICIENT LAND USE AND ACCOMMODATE GROWTH IN AREA WITH EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. FOSTER AS COMMUNITY CHARACTER AS -- YOU KNOW, AS EVERYBODY ELSE ACROSS THE STREET. THERE IS A CHURCH. THERE IS A DENTAL OFFICE. ALTHOUGH IT IS -- YOU KNOW, AFTER HIMES, BUT STILL VERY CLOSE. YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LIKE ATTRACT SMALL BUSINESSES LIKE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR HAVING -- I KNOW PEOPLE WHO CAME TO HAVE AN OFFICE, A BACK OFFICE IN THAT AREA, IN THAT LOCATION. INCREASE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. IMPROVES LAND USE EFFICIENCY. ATTRACT INFRASTRUCTURE, INVESTMENT AND MAINTENANCE. REDUCES RESIDENTIAL TURNOVER AND ENCOURAGES ENTREPRENEURIAL GROWTH. CONCLUSION IS OBVIOUS WHAT I AM TRYING TO CONCLUDE, AND I URGE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF FUTURE REZONING POLICY FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ALONG BAY TO BAY BOUL BOULEVARD, SPECIFICALLY THIS ONE TO ALLOW TRANSITION INTO OFFICE USE SUBJECT TO LOCATION AND LOT SIZE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. I NEGLECTED TO ASK YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME AT THE BEGINNING. >> SORRY, I GO BY SAM. MY NAME CARRION. I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. MIGHT BE FOR OUR STAFF, BUT WE WILL SEE. RIGHT NOW R-10 HAS AN OFFICE USE IN IT. >>EMILY PHELAN: YES, LOCATIONAL CRITERIA. IT COULD HAVE A DMERG USE, YES. A COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU, YOU CAN HAVE AN OFFICE IN R-10. WHY DO YOU NEED TO GO TO R-20. >> THIS IS WHAT -- I DON'T KNOW, I WAS DIRECTED TO -- JUST LIKE THE ONE ON THE CORNER DID, THAT -- WE HAD CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY IN THE BEGINNING. THAT WAS THE DIRECTION I WAS GIVEN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FURTHER CLARIFICATION. >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. WE CAN'T EVALUATE -- A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING INTO LOCATIONAL CRITERIA, RIGHT. TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE ACTUAL CRITERIA AS WRITTEN. FOR R-10 AS WRITTEN, THAT IS 50% OF THE BLOCK FACE HAVE TO BE ZONED COMMERCIAL. NOW I AM NOT IN FRONT OF YOU FOR A ZONING ANALYSIS, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU FOR FACT IF IT WOULD MEET OR NOT MEET LOCATIONAL CRI CRITERIA. WHAT I CAN TELL THAT YOU 50% OF THAT BLOCK FACE IS NOT ZONED COMMERCIAL. I CAN ALSO TELL THAT YOU FOR RESIDENTIAL-20, THE LOCATIONAL CRITERIA IS EXPANDED SO IT IS MET -- ONE OF THE CRITERIA IF IT IS LOCATED ON A COLLECTOR ROADWAY OR HIGHER WHICH WEST BAY TO BAY IS. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO FOR THE APPLICANT, SAM. >> YES. >> I JUST WANT TO -- WHAT YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO. ARE YOU ATTEMPTING TO KEEP THE RESIDENTIAL WITH AN ADJACENT OFFICE? OR ARE YOU TRYING TO CHANGE THE USE OF THE PROPERTY IN TOTAL? >> MY GOAL IS TO CHANGE THE CURRENT ZONING AFTER -- BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST STEP -- I WAS TOLD THIS IS THE FIRST STEP. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHAT YOUR INTENT WAS WITH WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. VERY GOOD. COUNCIL, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? >>. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM JUST GOING TO SAY, IT DOUBLES THE SIZE WHAT CAN GO INSIDE FROM R-10 TO R-20. HOW IS IT LESS DENSITY? AND QUIETER AND -- >> SO MY NEIGHBOR, FOR EXAMPLE, THE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR, THEY ARE THREE FOUR CARS PARKED ALL THE TIME. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM HAVING TROUBLE HEARING YOU. >> FOR INSTANCE, THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS, I SEE TWO OR THREE CARS PARKED ALL THE TIME AND THEY GO BACK AND FORTH. THERE ARE FAMILY OF LET'S LET'S SAY, FIVE, SIX PEOPLE LIVING HERE. IT IS NOT JUST WITHIN BUSINESS HOURS. SO IT'S -- AFTER HOURS, THEY CAN GO OUT. THEY CAN GO BACK AND FORTH LIKE THREE, FOUR CARS. AND FIVE PEOPLE LIVING. IT IS DIFFERENT THAN TWO, THREE -- LIKE PEOPLE IN THE BACK OFFICE LEAVING AFTER 5, 6 AND NOT SHOWING UP SATURDAY, SUNDAY. SO, TO ME, IT IS LESS TRAFFIC. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT THAT CAN HAPPEN IN ANY ZONING. >> THIS IS A SPECIFIC BECAUSE IT IS -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE LAND ON THE ZONING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE FUTURE LAND USE. >> IT CAN HAPPEN. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I GOT IT. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. WORST-CASE SCENARIO, WHAT COULD WE SEE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION CHANGE. BEST-CASE SCENARIO LOOKING AT THE HIGHEST DENSITY. WHAT WOULD THIS LOOK LIKE? >> 7,000-SQUARE-FOOT LOT, SO YOU CAN'T DO MUCH -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OFF RESTRICTION WITH THE SIZE OF THE LOT. >> YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY. >> PRACTICALLY NOT POSSIBLE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOT IT. >>EMILY PHELAN: HERE IS THE POTENTIAL IMPACT SLIDE. THIS IS WHAT CAN BE CONSIDERED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-10. JUST SLIGHTLY OVER 1700 SQUARE FEET. UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-20, IT WOULD BE JUST UNDER 2500 SQUARE FEET COULD BE CONSIDERED ON THIS SITE. AND AT THAT POINT, WE COULD -- LOCATIONAL CRITERIA WILL STILL APPLY TO THE SITE BUT BROADER UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-20 DESIGNATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THERE A POTENTIAL FOR BONUS WITH R-20? >>EMILY PHELAN: NO. WELL, NOT FOR COMMERCIAL. FOR RESIDENTIAL, IT CAN BE 18 UNITS PER ACRE TO ARE 20 UNITS PER ACRE. >>LYNN HURTAK: NOTHING THAT IS SAYING -- R-20 IS NOT COMMERCIAL. >>EMILY PHELAN: I WAS SEPARATING THE BONUS. THE FFRMDA.R. IS A.5 FOR THIS DESIGNATION. BUT IF IT WAS GOING TO STAY RESIDENTIAL, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT AS WELL. I WAS GOING TO SAY RESIDENTIAL WILL BE 18 UNITS OR 20 UNITS PER ACRE BUT THE ONLY PART OF THE BONUS THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED. YOU CAN'T GET A BONUS FOR MORE COMMERCIAL. >>LYNN HURTAK: I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I THINK WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO FIND OUT IS BECAUSE THIS FUTURE LAND USE STAYS WITH THE LAND. IF THIS OFFICE -- IF IT BECOMES AN OFFICE, THAT IS ONE THING. BUT JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY WANT TO BE AN OFFICE DOES NOT MEAN THAT WILL END UP WITH WHAT HAPPENS. THE MOST YOU CAN PUT ON THIS LAND IS TWO UNITS MAX, EVEN WITH EXTRA DENSITY AND BONUSES. >>EMILY PHELAN: CORRECT. >>LYNN HURTAK: MOST OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE YOU CAN PUT IN THAT TWO UNITS WOULD BE WHAT? BECAUSE THAT IS 23400 SQUARE FEET. THAT IS NEGOTIATION. NOT RESIDENTIAL. EMMA EMPEDRADO THE CATEGORY DOESN'T -- IT DOESN'T REGULATE THE F.A.R. OF THE DWELLING UNITS. SO WE ARE SAYING THE FUTURE LAND USE WOULD ALLOW UP TO YOU TWO DWELLING UNITS, BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THEY WILL BE. F.A.R. TOTAL SQUARE FOOT 2400 WOULD BE IF THEY DEVELOP THE COMMERCIAL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RESTRICTIONS ON THAT WOULD BE SETBACKS AND NATURALLY THE SIZE OF THIS. >>EMILY PHELAN: YES, THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? APPLICANT, ARE YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? >> YES, I AM DONE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. CASE IS CLOSED. ANYBODY -- DISCUSSION? DISCUSSION? >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM VERY -- I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ONE ONLY BECAUSE EVERYTHING ON THAT BLOCK IS STILL R-10, EXCEPT FOR THE R-20 ON THE CORNER. IF THIS WAS NEXT TO THE R-20, I WOULD BE LESS CONCERNED ABOUT IT. BECAUSE AUTOMATICALLY THEN THAT PROPERTY WILL MOST LIKELY GO R-20. AND WHAT -- WHAT IS THE DOMINO EFFECT WE ARE SETTING UP. AND THIS -- THIS ONE IS DIFFICULT FOR ME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, WHEN I FIRST HEARD IT, I WAS THINKING SOMETHING SIMILAR, BUT HONESTLY, THE NATURE OF THAT BLOCK AND AREA. I THINK -- I THINK I I I AGREE WITH THE APPLICANT IS MORE CONCLUSIVE OF CHANGING WITH THE LOW INTENSITY BECAUSE IT IS NOT HOSPITABLE FOR FAMILIES TO LIVE THERE AND THE DENSE TV PEOPLE WHO CAN LIVE IN A HOUSE VERSUS A LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL PLACE. IT IS A PRETTY INTENSE STREET. >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE, BUT, AGAIN, THE FUTURE LAND USE MEAN TWO RESIDENCES CAN GO THERE. AND THAT -- YEAH, I MEAN, SUPPOSE THAT IS KIND OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE WILL PROBABLY BE COMMERCIAL. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, BUT EVEN THOUGH THIS IS NOT QUASI JUDICIAL, NOBODY PRESENTED EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY, SO THE ONLY THING WE CAN INFER OUR OWN ANALYSIS OF WHAT HE PRESENTED. AND IF THERE WAS EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO THE CONTRARY IT WOULD BE EASIER TO VOTE NO. IN THE ABSENCE OF CONTRARY, HE WILL MAKE A MOTION IN FAVOR TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM SORRY, MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: AS A REMINDER, WITH REGARD TO EVIDENCE. THIS IS LEGISLATIVE MATTER. SO THE QUESTION IS IN TERMS OF -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HE QUALIFIED THE STATEMENT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU THOUGH, IN A LEGISLATIVE MATTER, IT IS A FAIRLY DEBATABLE STANDARD. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE -- DOES NOT HAVE TO BE BASED ON EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD. IT IS NOT IT COULD BE DISCUSSION. AND BECAUSE IT IS A POLICY MATTER, YOU CAN SPEAK AMONGST YOURSELVES BECAUSE IT IS U. MATLY A POLICY DECISION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? WE HAVE TO REOPEN THE HEARING -- HOLD ON. DON'T SAY ANYTHING YET. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA TO REOPEN THE HEARING AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. YES, MA'AM. >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. I WAS JUST GOING TO POINT OUT AND NOT PART OF THE PRESENTATION, OFFICIAL RECOMMENDATION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT BECAUSE THE VOTE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS CONSISTENT, BUT THE STAFF REPORT WILL INDICATE THAT WHEN STAFF DID THEIR REVIEW IT WAS INCONSISTENT. SOME THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WILL WANT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO CLOSE. >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND. -- OH, MANISCALCO. AYES HAVE IT. CAN I GET BIG NAME TAGS. >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE DAY WE SHOULD MOVE TO DIFFERENT SEATS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE YOU GO. I WILL JUST NAME YOU ALL ONE NAME, FRED. YOU ARE ALL FRED. >>BILL CARLSON: WHY DON'T WE CHANGE OUR SIGNS ALL THE WAY AROUND BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE KNOW WHO WE ARE, BUT YOU DON'T. [LAUGHTER] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. SO THE -- WE ARE -- WE ARE CLOSED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ON THE SERIOUS SIDE, YOU KNOW THIS WITH ONE -- IN MY MIND, ONE OF THOSE 50/50 DEALS. IF THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF THE ONE ON THE CORNER WAS R-20, IT WOULD BE LESS COMPLICATED. MUCH LESS COMPLICATED. WHEN OFF VACANT AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE GOING FOR AN R-20. MEANS THERE WILL BE TWO MORE COMING BECAUSE THE ONE BETWEEN THE TWO AND THE ONE LEFT OF THAT ONE COMPLICATES THE ISSUE ALTHOUGH NOT THE CASE IN FRONT OF ME. I AM THINKING NOT FOR TODAY BUT FOR THE LONG TERM. THAT IS WHERE THE PROBLEM COMES IN ANYWAY. I AM NOT HERE AGAINST YOU. I'M HERE -- BUT IF THAT PROPERTY WAS NEXT TO ONE ON THE CORNER, I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BAY TO BAY IS INTERESTING. HE DROVE THROUGH THERE TODAY. NOT BECAUSE OF THIS BUT I WENT TO THE ICE CREAM SHOP. THAT IS WHERE I WAS BEFORE THIS. BAY TO BAY IS UNUSUAL BECAUSE MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. AND ON ONE SIDE OF DALE MABRY GOING TOWARD LOIS, YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF HOUSES BUT THIS WAY FROM PALMA CEIA, CHURCH THERE, DALE MABRY GOING TO MacDILL. YOU HAVE A CHURCH, A HOUSE, A BUSINESS, A STRIP CENTER AND A STARBUCKS. VERY UNUSUAL AND A NARROW STREET COMPARED TO SOMETHING BUSY LIKE A GANDY OR KENNEDY BOULEVARD. BAY TO BAY IT UNIQUE. HENDERSON BOULEVARD A BAD EXAMPLE AND I THINK THERE IS ONE RESIDENTIAL HOME ON THAT STREET, I THINK, LEFT. AND EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN CONVERTED TO OFFICE SPACE AND COMMERCIAL AND WHATNOT. BAY TO IS STILL A MIX. I WILL SAY YES TO THIS BECAUSE TO ME BAY TO BAY IS UNIQUE COMPARED TO A LOT OF OTHER STREETS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HE WILL MAKE ONE OTHER STATEMENT -- BECAUSE THAT INFAMOUS STATEMENT THAT SOUTH TAMPA IS SLOW. IT DOESN'T PUT ADDITIONAL CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOLS WHICH A BIG PROBLEM OF SOUTH TAMPA. SCHOOLS ARE FULL. IF YOU TAKE RESIDENTIAL OFF THE TABLE -- >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE IT IS NOT GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A PD? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN FACT TALKING OF BAY TO BAY. THE ONLY STREET THAT THE BICYCLE AND A CAR IS IN THE SAME LANE. >> CAN I TALK? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, IT IS CLOSED, I AM SORRY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON ARE CARLSON ARE CARLSON, DO YOU WANT TO READ THIS. >>BILL CARLSON: A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS WHAT TO DO WITH THE STRIP. FOUR OR SIX HOUSES LEFT. IT IS MOSTLY COMMERCIAL. WE DID A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT PLAN A FEW YEARS AGO WHICH WASN'T COMPLETE, BUT THE -- BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD -- MANY PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANT TO HAVE A MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION BUT THIS, BUT THIS ONE A LITTLE AHEAD OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUILDING ANY KIND OF CONSENSUS. HAS TO COME BACK WITH A REZONING. I WILL MAKE A MOTION AND SEE WHAT YOU ALL THINK. I MOVE FILE NUMBER TA-CPA 25-0 1. ORDINANCE OF FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION. AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT AND MAP FOR THE PROPERTY 3606 WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD FROM RESIDENTIAL-10, R-10 TO RESIDENTIAL-20, R-250. PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. I GUESS WE WILL CODO A ROLL CALL VOTE. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS A TRICKY ONE, I WILL TRUST IT. I WILL GO YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTE NOTHING. SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON AUGUST 28, 2025 AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD, FLORIDA, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. CLENDENIN THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. FLYING ALONG. ITEM NUMBER TWO. >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. EXCUSE ME. I JUST HANDED OUT SOME COPIES OF A REVISED MAP THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS TEXT AMENDMENT JUST AS AN EXHIBIT TO DISPLAY THE BOUNDARIES. NOT PART OF THE ADOPTION OF THE TEXT AMENDMENT AS WELL AS REVISED LANGUAGE THAT THE APPLICANT SENT EARLIER JUST A LITTLE BIT AGO, RELATED TO THIS TEXT AMENDMENT. I WILL GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, TALK ABOUT THE TEXT AMENDMENT AND TALK OF THE REVISIONS THAT ARE WITH YOU TODAY. AND I HAVE SOMETHING ON THE ELMO. I AM NOT SURE IF IT IS SHOWING UP ON THE SCREEN YET. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT YET. >>JENNIFER MALONE: DO I HAVE TO CLICK SOMETHING? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THOUGHT IT WAS AUTOMATIC. >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU TO WHOEVER WAS LISTENING. THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE CHANNEL DISTRICT PERIPHERY BONUS AND SPECIFIC TO THE -- SORRY, THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT PERIPHERY BONUS BUT SPECIFIC TO THE CHANNEL DISTRICT. AGAIN, I AM JENNIFER MALONE. THIS IS PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT IS CHANGING POLICY IN THE PLAN AND CHANGE THE CDB PERIPHERY WITHIN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT BOUNDARY TO BE AS OF JANUARY 1, 2025. BUT THERE IS SOME NEW LANGUAGE IN FRONT OF YOU, SO WE WILL GO OVER THAT IS A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. THE HISTORY OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT BONUS PERIPHERY IS THAT IT WAS ESTABLISHED UNDER THE VERY FIRST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 1989. THERE IS A HISTORIC MAP HERE ON THE SLIDE. AND THE PURPOSE WAS TO CREATE THE TRANSITIONAL AREA THAT SUPPORTS HIGHER DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT COMPARED TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. OPINION AS YOU ALTHOUGH, DOWNTOWN WAS A LOT DIFFERENT IN 1989. AND THIS BONUS IS A DOUBLING OF -- FOR THOSE PROPERTIES IN THIS PERIPHERY BOUNDARY. SO IT WAS REALLY TO GIVE THAT COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND DOWNTOWN TO BRING UP SOME MORE RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND REMAINS UNCHANGED SINCE ITS ORIGINAL ADOPTION. SO THE SPECIFICS OF BONUS IS IF YOU ARE WITHIN THE PERIPHERY OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, YOUR PROJECT CAN HAVE A 100% MAX DUMB DENSITY WITHIN THE APPLICABLE CATEGORY. CHANNEL DISTRICT PROJECTS AS PROPOSED, PROJECTS WITHIN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR A 200% INCIDENCE INTENSITY. CODE AS THE IMPLEMENTING LANGUAGE FOR THIS BONUS. SO THE PLAN ESTABLISHES IT. I HAVE AN EXAMPLE HERE OF THE -- OF THE -- WHAT COULD BE CONSIDERED AND THE KIND OF INTENSITY THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IN THE -- IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT. AND SO THIS IS JUST LIKE A SAMPLE SITE ABOUT.47 ACRES AND YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH THE INTENSITY WILL GO UP TO -- IF THIS WAS APPROVED AND IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, THERE WOULD BE A HIGHER MAXIMUM AREA SQUARE -- MAXIMUM AREA SQUARE FOOTAGE. THIS IS THE MAP THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THIS IS THE MAP -- THIS IS -- THIS IS REFLECTED OF THE LANGUAGE AS IT WAS PROPOSED TO STAFF AND THEN CARRIED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. IT IS ILLUSTRATED ONLY BECAUSE IT IS A TEXT AMENDMENT. BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE AN ILLUSTRATION SHOWING FOLKS WHERE THIS COULD BE APPLIED. THIS IS THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA BOUNDARY OUTLINED. AND YOU CAN SEE MOST OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT IS REGIONAL MIXED USE-100 AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. TEN ACRES HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT. THE MAP ON THIS SLIDE IS THE ONE I RECEIVED EARLY THIS MORNING AFTER SOME COORDINATION WITH THE APPLICANT WHERE THEA APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO AMEND THE LANGUAGE TO REMOVE PROJECTS SOUTH AND EAST OF CHANNELSIDE DRIVE AND THIS IS ILLUSTRATIVE ONLY SHOWING WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE SO EVERYBODY COULD SEE WHERE THAT WOULD APPLY. AND THEN THIS IS THE SUMMARY OF THE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA WITHIN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA. IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT SINCE MOST OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND INCREASING SOME RESIDENTIAL IN THE CHHA BOUNDARY. AND THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS. WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 15,000 UNITS OR 22 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF RESIDENTIAL OR NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, KIND OF CUMULATIVE BASED ON THE RMU-100S AND CHANNEL DISTRICT CRAs BUT THE HIGHEST POTENTIAL IF THE BONUS IS UTILIZED AS WRITTEN. ACTUALLY I -- THIS ANALYSIS WAS DONE UNDER THE LANGUAGE THAT STAFF REVIEWED AND NOT THE CURRENT LANGUAGE IN FRONT OF YOU. SO THESE NUMBERS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER. CITY OF TAMPA STAFF OBJECTED TO THE REQUEST, AND THE COAST GUARD LET US KNOW THAT SOME OF THE SCHOOLS IN THE AREA HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS OVERCAPACITY. THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED CONSISTENCY ON THIS REQUEST. THESE ARE THE POLICIES THAT THEY CITED SPECIFICALLY IN THEIR MOTION. AND THEN THE VOTE IS IN YOUR RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET. THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAW THIS AS A WAY TO ENCOURAGE INFILL DEVELOPMENT IN VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO PROMOTE MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT AND HIGHER MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN PEDESTRIAN-ORIENTED AREAS AND WE KNOW HOW PEDESTRIAN-ORIENTED THE CHANNEL DISTRICT IS. WITH THAT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS CONSISTENCY AND THIS WILL BE BEFORE YOU TODAY TO TRANSMIT THE LANGUAGE TO THE STATE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED REMOVING PROJECTS SOUTH AND EAST OF CHANNELSIDE DRIVE. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT UNLESS THERE IS AQUESTION FOR ME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, I AM SORRY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO PUT CONTEXT IF I MAY. YOU KNOW SEVERAL TIMES I MADE A MOTION AND DISCUSSED OVER LAST TWO TO THREE YEARS ADDING DENSITY TO CHANNELSIDE -- THE CHANNEL DISTRICT. AND I HAD EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH LI LINDA SAUL-SENA, ANDY SCHAGLY OWN KNEE, KEN -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THESE WILL BE QUESTIONS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO PUT IT IN CONTEXT BECAUSE SHE PUT IT IN CONTEXT AS WELL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT BEFORE THE APPLICANT SPEAKS. >>BILL CARLSON: HE CAN CORRECT WHATEVER I SAY AS WELL. I AM ALMOST DONE. 30 MORE SECOND, PLEASE. WHAT? >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE WHETHER YOU RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER AT THIS POINT IN TIME OR NOT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: QUESTIONS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. BUT I WAS -- SHOULD HE -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T BELIEVE HE IS GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS. >>BILL CARLSON: I SHOULD HAVE ASKED TO MAKE A STATEMENT BEFORE SHE SPOKE, BUT BECAUSE I FORGOT, I AM ASKING TO MAKE A STATEMENT NOW. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL WAIT FOR TO YOU WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE APPLICANT AND WE HAVE A CLEAN PRESENTATION AND THEN YOU CAN DO THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. OH, OKAY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, ADDIE CLARK, 400 ASHLEY DRIVE. KEN TO THENBERG. LONG TIME DEVELOPER AND MY COLLEAGUE, ALEX SCHALER. JENNIFER DID A GREAT JOB. HERE FOR THIS PRIVATELY TEXT PLAN AMOUNT TO INCREASE INTENSITY AND DENSITY IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF AREAS EAST AND SOUTH OF CHANNELSIDE DRIVE. I THINK HERE THE GRAPHIC WHERE THE PURPLE IS SHADE IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. AS YOU KNOW THERE IS A LARGELY PUBLICLY INITIATED MODIFICATION TO THE COMP PLAN AND THE CODE OCCURRING RIGHT NOW. AGAIN THE INPUT FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT PARTIES AND THE BREADTH OF THAT EFFORT, WE BELIEVE THIS TEXT AMENDMENT OFFERS SOME CHANGES IN AN INTERIM SOLUTION THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED SOONER. SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE HISTORY OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT WHICH THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2004 TO FOCUS ON THE AREA AS A DISTINCT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT SEPARATED BY THE CDB FROM THE RAILROAD AND THE FLOUR MILL SHOWN WITH THE PURPLE ARROW. MANY DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN THE CBS AND THE CHANNEL DISTRICT. CHANNEL DISTRICT WAS AN ABANDONED WAREHOUSE AREA. AND THE THIRD BULLITT DESCRIBES IT WELL AN ERPT FROM THE CHANNEL DISTRICT REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AS DESCRIBES THE AREA AS AN AGEING DEVELOPMENTAL AREA WITH DECLINING RESIDENTIAL AND FEW RESIDENTS FAST FORWARD TILL NOW, CHANNEL DISTRICT SAND OTHER AREAS HAVE GROWN WITH GASWORX TO THE NORTH. YBOR HARBOR COMING ONLINE TO THE NORTHEAST, ENCORE, TAMPA HEIGHTS AND THE ONE THAT HAS CHANGED IT ALL REALLY IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF CHANNEL DISTRICT WHICH IS WATER STREET. SHOWING HERE, YOU CAN SEE HOW UNDER 10% OF THE LAND IN THE CRA BOUNDARY IS DEFINED AS UNDERUTILIZED, MEANING THE BUILDING THAT IS ON THE LAND IS ACTUALLY WORTH LESS THAN THE LAND BELOW IT. SO ONLY FEW TRACKS OF LAND ARE AVAILABLE TODAY THIS TO BE DEVELOPED. AND KEN WILL GO INTO DETAIL AS TO WHY THOSE SMALL KIND OF AWKWARD IRREGULAR SHAPED PARALLEL ARE HARD TO DEVELOP AT THE CURRENTLY ALLOWED DENSITY. ARE MOVING ON, THIS SLIDE DOES A GOOD JOB OF RELATING THE CHANNEL DISTRICT TO THE CBS SINCE THEY ARE BOTH IN THE HIGH HAZARD AREA. CBS HAS UNLIMITED DENSITY AND HEIGHT ONLY RESTRICTED BY HHCA. AND MERIDIAN AND THE PURPLE LINES BETWEEN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT AND THE CDB HAS BEEN BLURRED REMOVAL OF FLOUR MILL AND THE RAIL LINES AND THE NEW GROWTH WHICH IS, OF COURSE, WATER STREET. WITH THE CDB HAVING UNLIMITED F.A.R. IN DENSITY, THE REQUEST TO GO UP FROM A 7 WITH BONUS TO A 10.45 WITH BONUS IS ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE. AN EXAMPLE FOR A RMU-100 DESIGNATED PARCEL FACE N.A.R. OF 3.5. BONUS UP TO 67.0. WE ARE ASKING WITH BONUS TO GO UP TO 10.5. THIS MAP SHOWS THE MAJORITY OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA IN PINK WITH THE AREA WE ARE FOCUSED ON IN THE BLACK DASHED LINE. IN THE CDB IN MAROON. PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DESIGNATED WITH THE WHITE CARS, FOR A BONUS OF A HIGH HER F.A.R. WILL BE ENTIRELY COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND FOCUS ON THE AURA WHICH IS PROPOSED JUST LESS THAN 500 FEET WEST OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT AND NOT BE SUBJECT TO ANY F.A.R. MAXIMUM. HERE THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS HOW CLOSE THE CHANNEL DISTRICT TO THE CDB INCLUDING WATER STREET PHASE 1 AND 2 AND SOME OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE JUST SHOWED. A MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CDB AND THE CHANNEL DISTRICT AS YOU KNOW, THE CDB PERIPHERY BONUS ONLY THROUGH SITE PLAN AND TWO BETWEEN A BONUS AGREEMENT THAT HAS TO COME BEFORE YOU ALL. THE REZONING PROCESS WITH IMPORTANT DETAILS LIKE BUFFERING ACCESS TRANSPORTATION SHELTER MITIGATION ARE ALL HEAVILY SCRUTINIZED AND MUST PROVIDED FOR. WE THOUGHT THIS ANALOGY OF A SAFETY NET WAS APPROPRIATE TO SHOW HOW THAT REZONING PROCESS MUST ANALYZE AND PROVIDE FOR ALL OF THESE IMPORTANT FACTORS. LASTLY, 2045 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS STILL A DRAFT, BUT GIVEN THAT IS ONBEING, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THAT. CHANNEL DISTRICT IN THAT DRAFT IS CON TIM LATED AS A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT AREA AND A REGIONAL AREA SAND WIMPED BETWEEN TWO ARTERIAL ROADWAYS WHERE GROWTH IS SUGGESTED. AND CURRENT COMP PLAN, 2040 PLAN, MULTIPLE POLICIES SUPPORT THIS REQUEST. LAND USE POLICY 3.5.4 SPECIFICALLY ENCOURAGES THE CONTINUED EFFORTS TO PROMOTE MIXED USE OF THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED URBAN AREAS WHICH AS JENNIFER MENTIONED REALLY IS THE CHANNEL DISTRICT WITH THE GREAT PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE AND CONNECTIVITY. AND LASTLY, POLICY 9.9.5 ON THE BOTTOM RECOGNIZES HOW DOWNTOWN AND THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA ARE BLENDED NOW MORE THAN EVER BEFORE AN ENCOURAGES OPPORTUNITIES FOR INCENTIVES TO DIRECT GROWTH WHERE IT MAKES SENSE. I WILL INTRODUCE KEN SULTANBEER A KEY PART OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT AND HE WILL GO INTO WHY THE BONUS PROVISION IS REALLY NECESSARY HERE. THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU, KEN SULTANBERG -- I LIVE AT 1208 EAST KENNEDY IN GRAND CENTRAL, IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT. SO THE REASON WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU WITH THIS TEXT AMENDMENT IS, WE HAVE A -- WE HAVE SEVERAL PARTIES -- ONE PARTY THAT IS PURCHASING A PIECE OF PROPERTY WE OWN AND TWO ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD WHITING STREET AND CHANNELSIDE DRIVE. RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ALL THE CRUISE SHIPS COME IN. THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR A CONDO HOTEL, WHICH WE THINK IS ABSOLUTELY THE PROPER HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE CRUISE SHIP TRAFFIC. TO MAKE THE CONDO HOTEL MODEL WORK, YOU NEED A DENSITY OF AT LEAST 10. ADDIE MENTIONED THE AURA CONDOMINIUM HOTEL ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CHANNEL DISTRICT. I KNOW THE THE TWO DEVELOPERS THERE, IN FACT THEY WANTED TO BE IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT. WE MET WITH STAFF, THEY COULDN'T GET THE DENSITY THEY NEED SO THEY SCURRIED RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. TAMPA DIDN'T LOSE THAT INVESTMENT. I MADE SURE THAT OF THAT. BUT THE BIGGER QUESTION IS, SHOULD WE BE LIMITING, DISCOURAGING THAT TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, HIGH INTENSITY USE IN THAT AREA. I SAY THE ANSWER IS NO. I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MOST OF YOU RECORDING THAT. AND I THINK THAT THE -- THE FOLLOW-ON PUBLIC INITIATED AMENDMENT IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT PROBLEM AND THE APPROVAL PROCESS AND MAKES IT LESS ONEROUS AND MORE CERTAIN WHICH IS -- I USE THAT WORD A LOT. KEY FOR DEVELOPERS. WE LIKE CERTAINTY. WE LOVE IT. WE TEND NOT TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY UNLESS WE HAVE TO. THIS IS A GOOD STOPGAP IN MEASURE. IN NO WAY, I THINK, IT LIMITS, YOU KNOW -- IT HELPS WHAT CAN BE DONE THERE RIGHT NOW. AND I KNOW WE HAVE A FOLLOW-ON MEASURE THAT IS GOING TO BE IN FURTHERANCE OF THAT. THIS IS WHY I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA AND ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT THIS EVENING. ONE OTHER COMMENT, WE TALKED OF THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA A LOT. AND I THINK WITH THE WEATHER EVENTS WE HAD LAST YEAR RAIN. AND IF YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF STUFF AT THE BEACH AND DAMAGED IN '50s, 60s AND 70s. AND I WAS DOWN THERE SEVERAL DAYS AFTER HELENE AND THE NEWER BUILDINGS THAT CAME INTO EFFECT SINCE 2000 HAD MINIMAL AND MOST ZERO DAMAGE WHATSOEVER WHICH IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FOR THE STRUCTURES THAT WERE OLD THEIR SUSTAINED A LOT OF DAMAGE. SO I WANT GET HUNG UP AS FAR AS PROMOTING GROWTH OR NOT PROMOTING GROWTH IN COASTAL AREAS. AGAIN, IT'S -- ARE YOU CONSTRUCTING THINGS TO THE MODERN CODE THAT TAKE INTO EFFECT THE WEATHER CONDITIONS THAT DON'T APPEAR OFTEN, BUT WHEN THEY DO, BAD THINGS CAN HAPPEN. BUILDINGS DESIGNED OR BUILT TODAY ARE DESIGNED TO WITHSTAND THAT AND BE RESILIENT. I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT OUT THERE. NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE BRING THAT UP ENOUGHSHOULDN'T BRING AN AREA HERE AND THERE. IT IS HOW YOU BUILD THEM. THE STATE HAS DONE, IN MY MIND, A VERY GOOD JOB IN MAKING THE CURRENT CODE VERY STOUT WHEN IT COMES TO WITH STANDING THESE KIND OF EVENTS. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. SOME PEOPLE WILL GET WORSE. SOME WILL STAY THE SAME. CURRENT CODE AS IT IS NOW IS IN MY MIND IS QUITE GOOD FOR THAT. ON MY MIND, IT IS NOT HOW YOU BUILD BUT WHERE YOU BUILD. YOU COULD BE 50 FEET UP IN THE AIR IN THE MIDDLE OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND IT WILL FALL DOWN. WITH THAT, I FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES THAT CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT. >> YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE WE GOING TO SPEAK -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WANT TO TALK -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR WANT TO SPEAK -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WANT TO SPEAK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO TO THE UPON AT THIS IPOINT IF I OCCASION. COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I SAID BEFORE. WE HAD THE DISCUSSION SEVERAL TIMES. CBD ON THE WESTERN SIDE -- WEST SIDE CAN BUILD UP TO THE F.A.R. LIMIT AND HAVE MAXIMUM DENSITY. THEY CAN GET ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL AND ON THE EASTERN SIDE IT CAN'T. SEEMS ARBITRARY FOR DEVELOPERS IN THE AREA. AND THE AREA TO THE WEST BECOME DENSE THAT THE OTHER AREAS HAVE FIVE-STORY BUILDING. LINDA SAUL-SENA, ANDY AND KEN WERE INVOLVED WITH SETTING THE RULES FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AND CONSIDERING IT IS CHOPPY THAT THERE WERE EXCEPTIONS MADE AND DIFFERENT ON THE WESTERN SIDE THEY FEEL STRONGLY IT SHOULD BE CHANGED. I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH LINDA ON THE WAY OVER. AND SHE -- LIKE ANDY AND KEN, SHE TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN THE PLAN FOR THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, BUT IT -- IT CHANGED AFTER THAT. SOME SHE AGREE IT IS SHOULD BE MAXIMUM DENSITY THERE. THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO STEPS. THE NEXT STEP IS THE PUBLICLY INITIATED ONE. I AM STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF THIS BECAUSE WE NEED TO DO THIS. THIS WILL ALLOW HIGHER DENSITY IN DOWNTOWN. IT WILL ALLOW STRONGER URBAN CORE. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I LOVE TAMPA AND PROUD OF WHAT THIS CITY HAS BECOME BEING A TAMPA NATIVE. FEW WEEKS AGO I WAS WALKING THROUGH THIS AREA -- AND I HAVE SEEN THE CHANGES. IT WAS MENTIONED WHAT 1989 WAS AND WHAT IT IS TODAY. WHAT A BEAUTIFUL AREA. I WAS WALKING DOWN MERIDIAN. I WAS GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON A SUNDAY, AND I SAW LOTS OF FAMILIES ARE, A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE, I ASSUME COLLEGE AGE, COLLEGE GRADUATES, YOUNG PROFESSIONALS IN THE AN AREA FROM SPARKMAN WHARF TO WATER STREET. JUST AMAZING HOW IT CHANGED. YOU LOOK AT DOWNTOWN AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE. INVISIBLE BORDER. BORDER ON A ROAD. ONE SIDE YOU CAN BUILD X AND THE OTHER SIDE YOU ARE LIMITED TO. AND IT WAS SHOWN ON THE MAP. GAS WOKS AND SHAKING IN YBOR CITY, THE NEXT PHASE OF WATER STREET. PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE. THE DEMAND IT HERE. PEOPLE WANT THAT LIVE-WORK-PLAY. WE HAVE THE STREETCAR -- A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE AREA DO NOT HAVE CARS. OH, IT WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC. THOSE PEOPLE ARE BIKING, WALKING, STREETCARING, UBERING IF THEY NEED TO. STAYING IN THAT AREA, WORK IN THAT AREA. A REAL DOWNTOWN -- REAL BIG CITY FEEL. AND IF YOU -- YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE PART OF THE 20th CENTURY IN THE '60s AND '70s HOW IT HAS COME BACK. PEOPLE'S HUNGER FOR THAT URBAN CORE INSTEAD OF THAT SUBURBAN SPRAWL. THIS IS JUST ADDING TO IT. AGAIN TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT, THAT YOU CAN BUILD IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT SO MUCH. BUT GOING ACROSS THE STREET, YOU CAN'T. IT JUST EVENS IT OUT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE. GROWTH IS COMING HERE. AGAIN THIS IS -- THIS IS PART OF THE CITY THAT IS THE DOWNTOWN PART AND THE GROWTH WILL COME. I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS. THE FIRST STEP. TO ME IT IS AS NO BRAINER AND AGAIN I AM VERY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. MY ONLY QUESTION AND ONLY CONCERN AND MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN ANSWER IT. IF WE CAN PUT THE MAP BACK UP. ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THE PARKING LOT NEXT TO SPARKMAN WHARF WILL BE DEVELOPED AND I REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHY THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS? BECAUSE THAT SURFACE PARKING LOT -- I MEAN, THAT IS NOT -- THAT'S -- I MEAN THE RUMORS ARE ALWAYS AROUND. THAT IS A HIGH TOWER. I AM CURIOUS -- OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY PORTLAND IN IT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS PORTLAND. YOU MIGHT KNOW WHETHER -- >> THERE IS A LEASE THAT -- THAT I BELIEVE IS STILL -- IS THAT STATE STILL THE CASE, ADDIE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RESTATE YOUR NAME WHEN YOU START TALKING. >> KEN SULTANBERG. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IS A GROUND LEASE THAT SPARKMAN'S WHARF SITS ON, AND THAT IS WHY IT IS NOT THERE. BECAUSE IT IS -- IT IS PORT CONTROLLED. BUT I WILL ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION -- >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT SPARKMAN WHARF, BUT THE PARKING LOT NEXT TO IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK IT IS THE SAME THING. >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. WE WERE COORDINATING WITH THE APPLICANT ON THE REVISED LANGUAGE BEFORE YOU. I CLICKED ON EVERY PARCEL THAT WAS REMOVED FROM THE BOUNDARY, AND I CONFIRMED THEY WERE ALL UNDER THE OWNERSHIP FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER AS TAMPA PORT. SO MIGHT BE THE GROUND LEASE AND DIFFERENT USES. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S FINE. THAT'S I DIDN'T ASKED BECAUSE TRULY WHAT I HEAR. AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN HAVING SURFACE PARKING THERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: QUESTION ABOUT THAT THOUGH. AREA IN THE YBOR HARBOR AREA IS NOT PORT CONTROLLED. THE SECTION THAT GOT SOLD FOR THE YBOR HARBOR AREA. >> THE YBOR HARBOR AREA. THERE IS A PORTION OF IT. A SMALL -- LESS THAN 50% IS IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT. MAJORITY OF THAT IS NOT IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT. THAT IS IN THE YBOR DISTRICT, I BELIEVE. SO WHAT IS SHOWN IS PINK -- THIS AREA HERE -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN:TH DARK PINK OVER THERE. >> NOT IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT. THE STUFF IN RED IS HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHAT WAS REFERRING TO. >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE AGAIN. THAT MAP SHOWS THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA BOUNDARIES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY WAS THAT AREA OF THE YBOR HARBOR EXCLUDED? >> NEVER BEEN IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT. ALWAYS THE YBOR DISTRICT. >>JENNIFER MALONE: THIS RIGHT SNEER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>JENNIFER MALONE: BECAUSE -- CLENDENIN. >> EAST OF CHANNELSIDE DRIVE. IT IS NOT OWNED BY THE PORT -- >>BILL CARLSON: MAY I, THE OLD BANANA DOCK THAT INLET OWNED BY THE PORT AND A PIECE FROM THE RED ABOVE. I UNDERSTAND A SEPARATE APPLICATION COMING BEFORE US AT ANOTHER TIME. THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED, BUT NOT IN THIS ONE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND THE STUFF WILL BE FURTHER COLLAR I NEED AND ADDRESSED IN FUTURE HEARINGS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. COUNSEL MIRANDA? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO ECHO CHEAP COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO WAS TALKING ABOUT. AS HE WAS SPEAKING I WAS THINKING BACK TO 1974 TURN THAT IS A LONG TIME AGO. NOTHING DOWNTOWN. MEAN NOTHING. YOU COULD COME OUT OF THE PARKING LOT MAKE A LEFT-HAND TURN AND NEVER LOOK RIGHT, NEVER. NO CARS. WHY, BECAUSE NO PEOPLE. WHY? BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BUILDINGS. THEN ALL EMPTY. EVEN THE TAMPA THEATRE WAS ON THE BRINK OF GOING UNDER. IT WAS -- PASSED TO SELL THE PLACE ON A 4-3 VOTE. I REMEMBER WHERE THE AQUARIUM IS OUT NOW, CITRUS NITRATE, OPEN AIR. THE WIND WILL BLOW DAVIS ISLAND WILL TURN RIGHT. I REMEMBER THE OLD COCA-COLA PLANTED. I REMEMBER ALL THE BARS, ALL THE POLICE, ALL THE DRUGS, AND ALL THE PROSTITUTION GOING ON. NORTH THAT I WAS INVOLVED, I WAS HERE. I SEEP EVERYBODY LOOKING AT ME WITH A LITTLE EYE LIKE THAT. [LAUGHTER] LET ME CLEAR THAT FIRST. >>BILL CARLSON: SIRENS IN THE BACKGROUND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY ARE COMING TO GET YOU, CHARLIE, ON PAST CHARGES? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I AM SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT TAMPA HAS TRANSFORMED BECAUSE OF INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOURSELF AND THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY COMING OVER. WE WERE NOTHING. THERE WAS NOTHING DO IN TAMPA. YOU HAVE VIBRANCY, YOU HAVE A CITY THAT IS GROWING SO FAST AND SO RAPID, THAT WE ARE BEHIND IN GETTING CAUGHT UP. AND I REMEMBER THE STREETCAR WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY HERE. ABOUT 50 SOME MILES OF IT FROM BAYSHORE ALL THE WAY TO BALLAST POINT ALL THE WAY TO FLORIDA AND LINEBAUGH. ALL THROUGHOUT YBOR CITY, WEST TAMPA AND HYDE PARK. IT WAS GONE AND WE WERE STUPID TO TAKE IT OFF. THE GREG TOCO ADMINISTRATION AND RON ROCKSTELLO WITH THE STREETCAR. IT WAS DONE UNDER THAT ADMINISTRATION AND DONE WITHIN A REASON AND IT PICKED UP THE COST BY MANY PEOPLE. TAMPA LIQUORS WAS ONE OF THEM AND OTHER BUSINESS ACE LONG THE LINE. IT WASN'T FOR THE LITTLE THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC HAS DONE, WE WOULDN'T BE TALKING TODAY. STILL BACK TO HAVING NOTHING. I REMEMBER WHAT MANISCALCO SAID. I REMEMBER WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER SAID AND IT HAS CHANGED. TAMPA HAS BECOME A DIFFERENT CITY THAN WHAT I GREW UP IN. FOR THE BETTERMENT, YES, THEY HAVE SOME DOWNFALLS. I AM NOT GOING TO DENY THAT. CITY THAT PEOPLE WANL TO CORM IN. KIDS DON'T WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE AND LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE. THEY GO TO COLLEGE AND COME BACK WHERE THEY GREW UP, TAMPA. THE PEOPLE GO TO SCHOOL, THEY COME BACK AND STAYED HERE. WHAT I AM SAYING IS THINGS LIKE ARE CERTAINLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO. YOU HAVE TO HAVE HEIGHT. YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE -- WHERE YOU DON'T SPREAD OUT MORE CARS, CENTRAL AREA LOCATED WHERE ALL THE ACTION IS GOING TO BE AS FAR AS LIVABLE AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. THESE ARE THINGS LOOK AT. I AM 110%. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON FOR CLOSING REMARKS AND THEN OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >>BILL CARLSON: TWO THINGS. KEN SULTAN BURKE IS INNOVATOR AND HE SAW THE VISION OF WALKABLE STREETS, ARTS AND THOSE STORIES WERE A LONG TIME AGO AND DOESN'T GET CREDIT BECAUSE SO LONG AGO. THIS IS A REMARKABLE TRANSFORMATION. BUT AND THE FUTURE CHANGE DOESN'T JUST BENEFIT HIM. A LOT OF HIS LAND WAS DEVELOPED ALREADY. FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE SOUTHEASTERN SIDE OF MERIDIAN, A FIVE-STORY BUILDING THE PEER HOUSE THAT RELATED BUILT BUILT -- FOUR-STORY BUILDING THAT RELATED BUILT BECAUSE OF RESTRICTIONS AT THE TIME. RELATED SOLD IT BUT THEY CAN GO BACK AND BUY IT AND WITH THAT FOOTPRINT BUILD TWO OR THREE HIGH-RISES. PLENTY OF PROPERTIES TO BE DEVELOPED AND REDEVELOPED EVEN IF IT IS IN THE FOOTPRINT. A LOT OF POTENTIAL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND SECONDED FROM MANISCALCO OPINION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO TRANSMIT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SAID MOVE TO TRANSMIT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE AMENDED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TRANSMET THE AMENDED ITEM TA-CPA 25-03. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA TO TRANSMIT THE ITEM AS AMENDED. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYE ARE IT UNANIMOUSLY. >> THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. OKAY, 5:01 PUBLIC HEARINGS. THESE ARE QUASI JUDICIAL. IF YOU ARE IN COUNCIL CHAMBER THIS EVENING, AND YOU ARE EXPECTED TO SPEAK OR TESTIFY ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS PLEASE RISE, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE READY TO BE SWORN IN. [SWEARING IN] >> I DO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 3. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED AND AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE WRITTEN COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. SECONDED FROM VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY EX-PARTE VERBAL COMMUNICATION DISCLOSE IT PRIOR TO THE START OF THE HEARING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION. HEARING NONE. >>. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: HELLO, COUNCIL, DEBARDELEBEN FROM LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. GAUGE ITEM 3 IS AB 2-25-04, WEST CASS STREET, 1301 WEST CASS STREET. PROPERTY OWNERS ARE THOMAS AND CARMEN MONTERO. BAR LOUNGE WITH BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES, OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION. THE APPLICANT CAN REQUESTING 1475 SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR AREA, 812 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR AREA FOR A TOTAL OF 2287 SQUARE FEET OF AB SALES AREAS. PROPOSED HOURS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES ARE CLOSED ON MONDAYS. NO SALES AFTER 10:30 P.M. ON TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. AND NO SALES AFTER 12 A.M. MIDNIGHT ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS AND NO SALES AFTER 9 P.M. ON SUNDAY. I HAVE THE AERIAL MAP TO SHOW HERE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SR. OUTLINED HERE IN RED. THIS IS THE CORNER OF WEST CASS STREET AND NORTH WILLOW AVENUE. IF YOU REMEMBER COUNCIL, THE JADE APARTMENTS, THERE WAS AN AB APPLICATION THAT CAME IN A FEW MONTHS AGO. THE PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT HERE IS LARGELY COMMERCIAL AND INTENSIVE USES TO THE SOUTH OF WEST CASS STREET, AND THEN GOING NORTH ON WILLOW, THERE IS MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT. THE SITE PLAN PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT. THIS IS NORTH WILLOW AVENUE HERE AND NORTH CASS STREET. >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU MOVE IT UP A LITTLE. THANK YOU. SO. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: SO THE BUILDING IS HERE. YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED OUTSIDE AREA AND THE SURFACE AREA HERE. THERE IS A BICYCLE RACK HERE. PATTERN OF VEHICLE USE WILL BE ENTRANCE ON CASS STREET AND EXITS ON WILLOW AVENUE. A NOTE HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN FOR NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND. SHOW SOME PICTURES OF THE SITE. THIS IS LOOKING AT -- THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE SITE. THIS IS THE VIEW FROM WEST CASS STREET. AND NORTH WILLOW AVENUE WILL BE TO OUR RIGHT. THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON NORTH WILLOW AVENUE. YOU CAN SEE RESIDENTIAL USE ALONG WITH COMMERCIAL USES AS WELL. THIS IS FACING EAST ON WEST CASS STREET. YOU CAN SEE THE DOWNTOWN SKYLINE. JADE APARTMENTS TO THE RIGHT AND THOSE MORE INTENSIVE USES TO THE SOUTH THERE. THIS IS FACING SOUTH FROM THE CORNER OF WEST CASS AND NORTH WILLOW. LIKE I SAID MORE OF AN INTENSIVE USE WHEN WE GO SOUTH ON NORTH WILLOW. THIS IS A -- A VIEW FROM THE WEST. THIS IS THE SIDE ELEVATION OF THE PROPERTY FROM NORTH WILLOW AVENUE. A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT BORDERS THE OUTDOOR -- THE PROPOSED OUTDOOR AREA. THIS IS FACING WEST FROM THE CORNER OF WEST CASS AND NORTH WIL WILLOW. THIS IS FACING NORTH FROM WEST CASS. THIS IS THE ABUTTING ALLEY. THE PROPERTY -- OR THE SUBJECT SITE IS ON OUR RIGHT. AND TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA ABOUT THE REAR OF THAT BUILDING, THERE ARE IS FACING EAST FROM THE ALLEY. DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND TRANSPORTATION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION, AND THE REQUEST IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DOICHLTD REGULATIONS. MINOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WILL BE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READ GOING IT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL TO APPROVE. AND I HAVE A SUPPLEMENTAL REVISION SHEET. AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. SO MUCH I JUST WANTED TO RESTATE, NO AMPLIFIED NOISE WHAT RECEIVER OUTSIDE. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: THAT'S CORRECT. YES, MA'AM. >>LYNN HURTAK: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. APPLICANT? START WITH YOUR NAME PLEASE. >> GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU. LIAMO'DOWD. I'M HERE TO RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR BEER AND WEAN AT THE THIRSTY WIZ THAT IS PLANNED TO BE A SMALL COMMUNITY FOCUSED WINE AND CRAFT BEER AT 1301 WEST CASS STREET AT THE CORNER OF CASS AND WILLOW IN NORTH HYDE PARK. A VIBRANT WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A STRONG LOCAL IDENTITY. THIRSTY WIZARD IS AROUND A SCI-FI THEME WITH WARM LIGHTING, VINTAGE BOOKS AND QUIRKY DECOR FOR A COZY CREATIVE ENVIRONMENT. GOAL IS TO OFFER AN WELCOMING SPACE FOR LOCALS TO UNWIND, MEET THEIR NEIGHBORS AND ENJOY CONVERSATION. THE BUILDING HAS DEEP ROOTS IN MY FAMILY AND FAMILY. MY GRAND CHILDREN CARMEN ANDU AND TOMA MONTERO OWNED THE PROPERTY FOR DECADES AND LOANED LANICA FASHIONS. AND IT WAS THE PINK BUILDING AND I PAINT IT GREENL AND WORK TO GIVE IT NEW LIFE. A WAY TO UTILIZE A MEANINGFUL PART OF MY FAMILY'S LEGACY AND SUPPORTING THE NEIGHBORHOODS CONTINUING EVOLUTION. AS FOR THE WAIVERS, I AM SUGGESTING TO MAKING THIS A REALITY, I AM EXPECTING THE FOLLOWING WAIVERS FOR THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS FROM OTHER AB 2 ESTABLISHMENTS FROM 50 FEET TO 95 FEET. THE AREA ALREADY SPORTS CONSIDERABLE AND COMPATIBLE USES AND THE BUSINESS WILL ENHANCE THE WALKABLE NATURE ARE OF THE CORNER AND COMPLEMENT ITS SURROUNDINGS. REGARDING THE PARKING REDUCTION WAIVER FROM THE REQUIRED 12 TO 5. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE BLINGING A 80-YEAR-OLD STRUCTURE UP TO 2025 CODE IS NO SMALL TASK. CURRENT RIGHT-OF-WAY AND SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS. MAXIMUM NUMBER OF ALLOWABLE SPACE IS FIVE. FOR THE NANTLY THE LOCATION IS HIGHLY WALKABLE AND MANY OF THE CUSTOMERS WILL WALK, BIKE AND USE RIDE SHARE. AREA IS SURROUND BY MAJOR APARTMENT COMPLEXES BETWEEN CYPRESS AND KENNEDY REDUCING THE NEED FOR ON-SITE PARKING. THE DRIVE AISLE BETWEEN 24 FEET AND 18 FEET. EXISTING BUILDING CANNOT BE MOVED AND THIS CONDITION IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE CHANGED, AN 18-FOOT AISLE IS STILL SAFE AND APPROPRIATE FOR THE SCALE OF TRAFFIC. MY FAMILY AND FRIEND HELPED ME ACT OUT THE PARKING PLAN SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN, AND IT IS VERY FUNCTIONAL AND SAFE. REGARDING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY MANEUVERING ALLOW VEHICLES TO MANEUVER IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. GIVEN THE BUILDING'S LAYOUT AND EXISTING SIDEWALKS AND RIGHT-OF-WAY, THIS WILL BE THE ONLY FEASIBLE OPTION. A CONDITION THAN EXISTED FOR DECADES AND CANNOT BE CHANGED DUE TO THE PROPERTY SURROUNDED BY RIGHT-OF-WAYS. LOW SPEED LIMITS AT CASS AND WILLOW DO MITIGATE SAFETY CONCERNS AROUND IMPLEMENTED A ONE-WAY TRAFFIC FLOW EXIT FROM CASS EXITING TO WILL DOE TO MAKE IT PREDICTABLE AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. I HAVE PROACTIVE LEAVE ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND LETTERS NORTH OF THE NORTH HYDE PARK BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, HYDE PARK ALLIANCE. AND NEARBY RESIDENTS AT 706 NORTH WILLOW WHOSE SUPPORT HELPED ME OBTAIN SIGNATURES NEEDED FOR BUFFER REDUCTION. NEIGHBORHOOD SHIFT.WALKABILITY, CREATIVE REUSE AND LOCAL OWNERSHIP. UNDERSTANDING THAT BLENDING COMMERCIAL AND RELATION USE REQUIRE THOUGHT. PLANNING. TOP ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS, I AM TAKING THE FOLLOWING STEPS, NO OUTDOOR SOUND AMPLIFICATIONS. A SOLID MASONRY WALL TO SEPARATE OUR USE FROM ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL. COURT WHERE DOOR SEATING WITH 12 PERSONS CLOSING NO LATER THAN 10 AND BUFFERING NOISE AND LIGHT SPILLOVER AND ENHANCE PRIVACY. MY DEDICATION OF BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR WHILE CONTRIBUTING TO THE SMALL AREA. IN CLOSING, THIRSTY WIZ SARD A REUSE OF A LONG-TIME NEIGHBORHOOD BUILDING AND RESPONSIBLE SMALL-SCALE PROJECT OF HAVING A WALKABLE DISTRICT. I REQUEST FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND THE REQUESTED WAIVERS THAT WILL ALLOW ME TO BRING THIS PROJECT TO LIFE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I THINK THIS IS A VERY CREATIVE REUSE. THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT I HARP ON EVERY TIME THERE IS A NEW DEVELOPMENT OF THIS TYPE ON CASS STREET, WHICH IS A BIKE BOULEVARD. YOU NEED MORE BIKE PARKING AND COVERED BIKE PARKING. BECAUSE THAT IS THE KIND OF STUFF -- YOU WILL BE ABLE -- AS CASS STREET EXPANDS, AS A CYCLIST, I LOVE TO HAVE GO TO THAT AREA, BUT I CAN'T, BECAUSE THERE IS NO PLACE TO PARK MY BIKE. SO I AM A LITTLE SURPRISED JUST ALONG THE CORRIDOR OVERALL. SO I AM TRYING -- YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AS YOU ARE PROVIDING REGULAR PARKING, YOU ARE WANTING THE REDUCTION AND EVEN MENTION PEOPLE WILL BIKE THERE. WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK THEIR BIKES. MAKING SURE IT IS A SECURE PLACE. COVERED FROM HEAT AND RAIN. AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION IF YOU ARE AMENABLE TO ADD THAT ON. IT SOUND LIKE YOU ALREADY HAVE A PLACE THAT WILL BE CLOSE. BUT YOU REALLY WANT TO GET PEOPLE -- NOW THAT CASS WILL CONNECT ALL YOU HAVE WEST TAMPA TO ALL THE WAY UP TO YBOR AND BEYOND, PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO GET TO YOU PRETTY SIMPLY. SO I WOULD JUST -- THAT WILL BE MY REQUEST. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SPAY THIS IS A BUILDING OWNED BY YOUR FAMILY? >> YES, CORRECT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW LONG. >> '93 OR '94, WAY BEFORE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS WHAT IT WAS TODAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WORKED AT THE SITE. >> AS A LITTLE GID IN LANI CKA FASHION. SWEEP THE FLOORS AND WATER -- EVEN AS A KID. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: UNPAID LABOR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAID A THIRST WIZARD, A SCI-FI THEMED LOUNGE KIND OF THING. >> MY FAMILY HAS BACKGROUND IN WINE. MY MOTHER IS A SOMELIER. THIS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS YOUR VENTURE. >> CORRECT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC. BUT THE NEIGHBOR ADJACENT. YOU MENTIONED MASONRY WALL. NO OUTDOOR MUSIC. LIMITED TO 12 PEOPLE. CLOSED BY 10. I AM HAPPY -- I THINK YOU COVERED EVERYTHING. AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TALKED OF BIKE PARKING. PERHAPS COVERED PARKING BECAUSE -- YOU SEE HOW IT RAINS HERE. BEING THAT IT IS ON CASS, YOU KNOW PROTECTED -- ESSENTIALLY DEDICATED BIKE AREA. YOU WILL GET -- HOPEFULLY A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT BIKE OVER. AND I THINK THIS -- I THINK THE NAME ALONE, THE THIRSTY WIZARD, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND CARLSON ARE -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GEEKY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE NERDY. SO WE LIKE IT. SCI-FI THEME -- AT LEASE ONE IT A STAR WARS MAN AS AM I. I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST. I THINK IT IS GREAT IN YOU ARE NOT SELLING IT OFF AND KEEPING IT IN THE FAMILY AND DOING YOUR OWN THING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A QUESTION, WHY CLOSED ON MONDAY. WHY WOULD YOU PUT THAT ON -- WERE YOU REQUESTED THAT -- >> THAT WAS PART OF THE LISTING WHICH -- WHAT THE PROPOSED HOURS WERE. AND JUST DECIDED TO CLOSE ON MONDAYS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY TIE YOUR HAND -- ONCE YOU ARE ON THE SITE PLAN, YOU NEVER CAN OPEN ON A MONDAY. IS THAT -- HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? WHY DID THAT HAPPEN? I KNOW, BUT -- YOU ALWAYS CLOSE IF YOU WANT TO, WHY TIE YOUR HANDS. IN A NEIGHBORHOOD -- SUSAN, IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? >> NO. HE SPECIFIC REASON. JUST -- INITIALLY PUTTING THE PROPOSAL TOGETHER. WHAT YOU INTENDED THAT THE HOURS OF BUSINESS TO BE. NOT -- NOT ANYTHING ELSE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW, JUST SO YOU KNOW IF IT IS ON THE SITE PLAN, IT MEANS YOU CAN NEVER OPEN ON THE MONDAY. >> WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE ATTORNEY STAFF COMING UP TO CORRECT ME. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. NOT THERE TO BE OPEN. I DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CLOSED ON MONDAY VERSES NO OPERATING HOURS ON MONDAY. I THINK IT IS THE SAME THING. BECAUSE YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION ARE AS LISTED ON THE SITE PLAN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT IF HE -- IF HE DIDN'T HAVE THAT ON THERE, WE HAVE SOME DATE TO OPEN ON A MONDAY IF THERE WAS A SPECIAL EVENT OR SOMETHING, RIGHT? >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I MEAN I SUPPOSE -- TYPICALLY YOUR HOURS -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOUND LIKE AN ADVOCATE FOR THE APPLICANT. >>LYNN HURTAK: MY QUESTION WOULD BE JUST BECAUSE THE HOURS ARE ON THE SITE PLAN DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO BE OPEN THOSE HOURS. MEANING LIKE YOU COULD BE CLOSED THOSE HOURS. BUT YOU CAN'T BE OPEN ANY ADDITIONAL HOURS. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: CORRECT. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WAS I THINK THE QUESTION. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SIX OF ONE AND HALF DOZEN OF THE ATOR TO NOT HAVE HOURS ON MONDAY OR TO SAY CLOSED MONDAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM SAYING IF WE ELIMINATED THAT CLOSED MONDAY, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO OPEN ON MONDAYS, BUT WILL GIVE HIM AN OPTION IN THE FUTURE DATE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION THOUGH -- MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. FIRST OF ALL, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE HIS REQUEST. THAT IS NUMBER ONE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HENCE WHY I ASKED HIM. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULD YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THAT WITH SPECIFIC HOURS TO ENCOMPASS THAT OTHERWISE YOU GO TO CHAPTER 14 HOURS FOR THAT DAY. IT WOULD -- IT WOULDN'T BE TO HAD JUST TAKE THAT OUT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE MAKE THAT CONSISTENT WITH TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY HOURS. AM I CORRECT? >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: CORRECT. IF THERE WAS A THOUGHT HE MIGHT WANT TO BE OPEN ON MONDAY, BETTER TO PUT SOME WHO US IN THERE. IF YOU DON'T WANT THAT, YOU DON'T. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HINT, HINT, HINT. IT IS UP TO THE APPLICANT. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: IF THERE ARE NO HOURS FOR MONDAY, GENERALLY SPEAKING HE CAN'T BE OPEN FOR MONDAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR THE APPLICANT, EVER A TIME IN THE FUTURE THAT YOU EVER FORESEE OPENING ON MONDAY. HEAR THAT. >> YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN WHEN YOU START TALKING. >> LIAM O'DOWD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT AS IS IT. >> SOMETHING TO CHANGE BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND READING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >> I WOULD AMEND TO MATCH THE TUESDAY TO THURSDAY. >>LYNN HURTAK: COULD YOU JUST FOR ME AND THE RECORD AND THE PUBLIC STATE WHAT THOSE HOURS ARE AGAIN. >> IT IS ON THE SITE PLAN. I CAN PULL IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WASN'T POSITIVE. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE RECORD. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: LEO DEBARDELEBEN, LAND DEVELOPMENT GOOD NATION. FOR SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, THE HOURS -- I AM SORRY, THIS IS THE WRONG ONE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WRONG ONE. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS SOON AS YOU SAID SUNDAY THROUGH -- I KNEW YOU WERE THE WRONG ONE. >>Deb: H. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: NO SALES AFTER 10:30 P.M. TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. >>LYNN HURTAK: NO SALES AFTER 10 A.M. MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, AND THURSDAY. BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: NO SALES AFTER 10 P.M. MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAVE HIM TO AGREE THAT. >> I AM LIAM. AND I AGREE TO THAT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION TO CLOSE. >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STAND BY. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE APPLICANT IF HE IS WILLING TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE SITE PLAN OF ADDITIONAL BIKE PARKING. >> I AM LIAM, AND YES, I WOULD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU HAVE THAT NAME DOWN. >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE VERY GOOD. A LOT PEOPLE DON'T GET THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION AND CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA -- SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: GEE WHIZ. GEE WHIZ. THAT IS HILARIOUS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO GO ON RECORD THAT I HAD A ROUGH MORNING. [LAUGHTER] >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE. SO YOU KNOW. [LAUGHTER] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY, I AM SUFFICIENTLY EMBARRASSED. >>LUIS VIERA: YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD EXCUSE. GOD BLESS BUT. ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READINGK APPROVING SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE STEALS, BARS LOUNGE CONSTRUCTION ASSUMPTION AND PACKAGE SALES OFF PREMISES AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND LINE FROM THE CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND OF CASS STREET IN SECTION 2 PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCES ARE REPALED AND PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE OF THE DAY AND CHANGES ON FIRST AND SECOND READ AND BIKE PARKING AND HOURS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THE REVISION CHEAT. >>LUIS VIERA: THE REVISION SHEET. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WON'T HAVE HAVE ONE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE IS ONE AND I PASS IT AROUND. AND OTHER CHANGES REQUIRED ON THE SITE PLAN. >>LUIS VIERA: REVISION SHEETS, HOURS AND BIKE PARKING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT REVISION SHEET IS TO BE CLOSED MONDAY. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN FIX THAT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE REVISION -- THE CHANGES ARE -- THAT ARE WITHIN THE REPORT STATED BY STAFF AN ADDITIONAL ONE PASSED OUT ON THE REVISION SHEET. THE HOURS OF OPERATION WITH REGARD TO MONDAY. AND THEN THE BIKE -- >>LYNN HURTAK: THE POINT WAS THE REVISION SHEET THE ONLY THING ON IT WAS CLOSED MONDAY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE -- AND STAFF CAN CHANGE THIS, CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING ON THE STAFF REPORT AND NOT NECESSARILY IN SECOND REVISION SHEET, OR AM I MISTAKEN? >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: LEO DEBARDELEBEN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. THE REASON THE REVISION SHEET WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL BECAUSE LEFT BLANK OFF THE SITE PLAN AND WAS NOT REFERRED TO ON THE STAFF REPORT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY. A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT KNEW /* UNANIMOUS. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. AND SECOND HEARING AU7 EAST KENNEDY BEAUTIFUL, 33602. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM 4. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COUNCIL. LEO DEBARDELEBEN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. AGENDA APRIL THEM IN NUMBER 4 AB 2-25-07. REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY 234 EAST 7th AVENUE OWNED BY YBOR NUCCIO LCC AND THE APPLICANT IS RECOMMENDED TODAY BY JIM PORTER. THE SITE CURRENTLY HAS AN APPROVAL UNDER CASE NUMBER AB 224-15 THAT CAME IN FRONT OF YOU LATE LAST YEAR. IT WAS APPROVED FOR A LARGE VENUE CLASSIFICATION FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR. CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY. 13,716 SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR AREA ONLY. THERE IS NO OUTDOOR -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR ONE MOMENT, PLEASE. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK? >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS CAME BEFORE US NOT EVEN A YEAR AGO. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: THAT'S CORRECT. >>LYNN HURTAK: ANY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO THIS? >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SORRY, CONTINUE. >>Deb: SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TODAY IS TO EXTEND THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES HOURS. THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE STEALS MUST END BY 11 P.M. SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND 12 A.M. MIDNIGHT ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. IF PROPOSED PROPOSED ENDING TIME FOR SALES 11 P.M. SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY WHICH IS NO CHANGE FOR THOSE DAYS. AND 2 A.M. ON THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS, AS WELL AS THE SELECT NIGHTS BEFORE HOLIDAYS INCLUDING THE ONES IN THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL. THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP OF THE SITE. THE SITE IS OUTLINED HERE IN RED. IT IS XOO BETWEEN EAST 8th AVENUE AND EAST 7th AVENUE BORDERED BY NORTH 22nd STREET AND NORTH 23rd STREET. WE ALL KNOW THE PATTERN OF YBOR CITY. THERE IS COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ALONG THE 7th AVENUE CORRIDOR. TO THE SOUTH OF EAST 7st, THERE IS A MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL AND INTENSIVE USE. TO THE NORTH, WE START GETTING INTO THE RELATION DEVELOPMENT AND USES. SITE PLAN PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT. NOTHING ON THE SITE PLAN IS CHANGING OVER THAN THE HOURS. THIS IS JUST THE DEPICTION WHERE THE BUILDING IS AND THE SURFACE PARKING THAT IS PROVIDED. I WILL JUST GO THROUGH THESE PICTURES. NOTHING IS CHANGING. THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE SITE FROM EAST 7th AND NORTH 23rd STREET. IN IS FACING EAST ON 7th AVENUE. THE SITE IS ON OUR LEFT. YOU CAN SEE THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL BE USES HERE. FURTHER DOWN ON EAST 7TH. MORE COMMERCIAL USES HERE. THIS IS THE CORNER OF EAST 23rd AND EAST 7th LOOKING SOUTH. THERE IS THE MORE INDUSTRIAL USES AND MORE INTENSE USES, RATHER. THIS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET. SO THERE IS A VACANT LOT HERE, AS WELL AS SOME COMMERCIAL. THIS IS FACING WEST FROM THE CORNER OF EAST 7th AND NORTH 23rd. THIS IS DOWN THE EAST 7th AVENUE CENTRO YBOR CORRIDOR. THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT IN THE DISTANCE THERE. MORE COMMERCIAL. THIS IS FROM THE ENTRANCE OF THE PARKING LOT SO THE SITE WILL BE BEHIND US TO THE RIGHT. THIS IS THE WEST ELEVATION OF SITE. YOU CAN SEE THE SURFACE PARKING HERE. THIS IS LOOKING NORTH TOWARD EAST 8TH. THE SURFACE PARKING THAT IS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE WEST ELEV ELEVATION. THIS IS LOOKING A~ CROSS FROM THE SURFACE PARKING LOT. THIS EAST 8th AVENUE. YOU CAN SEE NORTH 22nd STREET IN THE DISTANCE HERE AND THE RESIDENTIAL USES ARE FURTHER NORTH. THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON 8th AVENUE WHERE YOU START SEEING SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL USE. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER SHOT FROM THE CORNER OF EAST 23rd AND EAST 8TH, THAT IS WHERE KIND OF THE RESIDENTIAL USES START. AND THE SITE WILL BE TOWARD THE END OF THE BLOCK TO OUR RIGHT. THIS IS FACING SOUTH FROM EAST 8th. THERES IS -- YOU CAN SEE SOME VACANT LAND THERE AND COMMERCIAL USES TO THE SOUTH. AND THAT -- BE THIS IS JUST THE EAST ELEVATION OF THE SITE. DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. DUE TO THE REQUESTED WAIVER FOR THE DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM OTHER AB SALES LOCATIONS. TRANSPORTATION FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT. MINOR SITE PLAN CHANGES ARE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING. IF IT IS YOUR PLEASURE TO APPROVE. I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. I DIDN'T CATCH THIS. COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON -- NO, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: IN THE LAST HEARING, TAMPA MENTIONED ANNUAL FOOD SALES OF 51%. THAT IS NOT -- IS THAT STILL MAINTAINEDED IN THIS. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: I WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER BUT NOTHING HAS CHANGED ON IN SITE PLAN OTHER THAN THE OPERATING HOURS FOR THOSE WEEKEND DAYS. >>LYNN HURTAK: MAYBE I JUST DISAGREE YOU WITH, BUT TO ME THIS IS NOT A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE. THIS IS JUST HOUR CHANGES. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: IS THAT REQUIRED? >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN A YEAR AND GENERALLY SPEAKING THIS COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE -- ALLOW CASES TO COME BACK FOR ANOTHER YEAR UNLESS THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE. AND THIS, IN MY OPINION, IS NOT A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. I CAN LOOK UP THE SPECIFIC CODE SECTION BUT WHEN COUNCIL HAS DENIED AN APPLICATION. IN THIS CASE YOU APPROVED, SO THEY ARE SEEKING A CHANGE IN THE APPROVAL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM GOING BACK IN MEMORY AND I REMEMBER THIS WAS A LONG-DRAWN-OUT -- IN FACT I DON'T THINK IT WAS THE SAME COUNCIL THAT REPRESENTED THIS COUNCIL WAS THE COUNCIL TODAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, WE HEARD THIS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SAME ONE. MET TWO OR THREE TIMES WENT OUTSIDE AND TALKED, CAME BACK IN AND FINALLY THEY AGREED TO WHATEVER. HOWEVER IT CAME ABOUT, THEY AGREED TO THESE HOURS. I WILL BE VERY INTERESTED TO POLICE TO WHAT THEY SAY. LOOK AT THAT TIME IF THE HOURS THIS CHANGED IT WILL NOT GOING TO PASS. I AM SAYING SPECULATION FOR IT. I AM NOT SAYING CONCRETE EVIDENCE. BUT THERE WAS -- THEY WANTED HOURS ALL THE WAY -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S RESTRICT THIS TO JUST QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTATION WE ARE HEARING RECENT NOW. COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK IT WAS ALREADY SAID. THAT WAS HEARD. DECEMBER. ISSUE WAS THE HOURS. HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE HOURS. I WILL LISTEN TO THE REST. >>BILL CARLSON: DID THE -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: BOTTOM LINE, FWHOOLG MY COLLEAGUES. WE WERE GOING DENY THIS AND OFFERED A COMPROMISE THAT WE WERE RELUCTANT TO OFFER. AND THE APPLICANT SAID IF I RECALL, HE DID THE DEAL WITHOUT EVEN SHOWING THAT HE HAD TO APPLY FOR AN ALCOHOL LICENSE. AND THEN HE KIND OF HAD AN EXPECTATION THAT HE WAS GOING TO GET IT. WE SAID -- WE INDICATED WE WERE TURN IT DOWN BUT WOULD APPROVE IT IF IT WOULDN'T INTRUDE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IS SENDING THESE HOURS. WHY ARE WE HEARING IT AGAIN? CAN WE JUST REJECT IT OUT RIGHT? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS A QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDING. >>BILL CARLSON: WHY I AM ASKING -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THE QUESTION ABOUT THE HEARING WHICH SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ -- >>BILL CARLSON: MY QUESTION ARE WE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE HEARING OR CANCEL IT BASED ON THE FACT THERE IS NOTHING NEW SHELBY MAY BE THE BASIS ULTIMATELY BUT THE APPLICANT'S RIGHT TO MAKE THE REQUEST. NOTHING IN THE REQUEST THAT BARS THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR BEFORE COUNCIL AND HE HAS APPLICATION PENDING BEFORE YOU WITH I HAS TO BE BASED ON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. OBVIOUSLY THE CONTEXT IS THERE WAS A PREVIOUS RECORD WITH REGARD TO THE FINDINGS AT THE PREVIOUS HEARING WHICH MAY BE RELEVANT TO YOUR DECISION. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS, NO, ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO MAKE THEIR CASE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EXACTLY. SOME RIGHT NOW WE HEARD THIS PART -- WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, HEAR QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT, AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT. AFTER THAT, PLENTY OF TIME FOR COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN ON THEIR OPINIONS BASED ON THE EVIDENCE THAT THEY HEARD. OKAY. SO APPLICANT. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, JIM PORT WE ARE ACKERMAN, 401 EAST JACKSON. ANY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION. I WAS NOT PART OF THE APPLICATION. AND QUITE FRANKLY HELPING SEVEN MONTHS AND RESIDENTIAL INSTRUCTIONS ARE HURTING THEM AND THEY ARE HAVING PROBLEM. MY COUNSEL WAS TO WAIT FOR A YEAR AND ESTABLISH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT THEY FELT THEY COULD NOT WAIT. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO MAKE THE BEST CASE WE CAN WHY IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO EXTEND THE HOURS OF OPERATION. THAT OUR DUTY AND BURDEN UNDER THE LAW TO PROVE THAT TO YOU. THIS IS A CASE OF CONTEXT AND ORIENTATION, OF WHERE THIS PROPERTY SITS. I LISTENED TO THE LAST HEARING. I HEARD THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS. I HEARD THE CONCERNS OF COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. AND I'M HERE TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE AS BEST I CAN. UP UNDERSTAND THE SETTING. I UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION YOU ARE IN. BUT THEY ARE IN A BAD SITUATION. AND WE ARE THERE MAKE A FITCH WHY IT IS TO EXTEND THE HOURS OF OPERATION. IMSPEND A LITTLE TIME ORIENTING YOU WITH THE SITE WITH SOME PHOTOS. LEO DID GOOD JOB AS AS ALWAYS OF THE PHOTOS. WHY THIS LOCATION IS UNIQUE AND WORTHY OF HOURS -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SKATE YOUR NAME. >> JIM PORTMAN, 401 ACKERMAN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T WANT TO GET A NASTY -- >> NO. THIS THE SITE. COLUMBIA IS DOWN HERE. BIG AL'S SOUL FOOD, WHICH IS A GREAT RESTAURANT, BY THE WAY IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET. AS LEO SAID, AS YOU COME DOWN 8th AVENUE, PRETTY INTENSE COMMERCIAL USE THERE IS. YOU HAVE THE YBOR AUTO SHOP AND OAT LIMB PIA STONE AND QUARTZ. SORT OF CADDY CORNER FROM HERE. I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE COMP PLAN AND MY POINT IS THIS ESTABLISHMENT IS ORIENTED TOWARD 7th. PART OF 7th AVENUE. THIS IS SORT OF -- YOU GET A SENSE OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. CC 35. COMING DOWN ALONG 7th AND DOWN 8th CONSISTENT WITH THAT CC-35. TO THE WEST -- WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CAMP COMP PLAN CATEGORIES. YOU CAN SEE THE TREND HERE. BUT THE ORIENTATION IS TOWARD -- ON 7TH DOWN BE THIS WAY, SOUTH. THIS IS THE FACADE AS -- OF THE BUILDING. AGAIN A BEAUTIFUL HISTORIC BUILDING. COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA GAVE A VERY GOOD HISTORY LESSON HOW LONG THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN HERE AND READAPTED AND REUSED FOR THERE ARE RESTAURANT. THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE -- AND I AM TRYING TO DRAW -- SHOW A PICTURE HERE WHERE IT IS LOCATED. SO YOU SEE, THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. IMMEDIATELY ABUTTING IT IS A PARKING LOT. THERE WERE CONCERNS AT THE FIRST HEARING ABOUT PARKING. THERE IS A PARKING LOT DIRECTLY ABUTTING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THIS IS ANOTHER -- YOU CAN SEE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE SHRIMP AND COMPANY, ANOTHER RESTAURANT COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT. THIS IS LOOKING DOWN 8th. AND AGAIN, LEO MENTIONED THE MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL AND LONG-TERM INDUSTRIAL USES THAT THAT SORT OF DEFENSE FINES WHERE WE ARE. IF YOU WERE LOOKING DOWN th AVENUE, SEE THE OLYMPIA QUARTZ FACILITY WHICH IS PRETTY INTENSE USE. BIG AL'S DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AND ANOTHER RESTAURANT USE. THIS IS LOOKING UP 8th AVENUE. BIG AL'S AND OUR PROPERTY HERE AND THIS IS GOING THAT WAY. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT SLIDE TOO. THIS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM US. YOU CAN SEE THE AVAILABLE SIGN. SMALL BUSINESSES ARE STRUGGLING. THIS AGENDA IS NO LONGER THERE AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM US, WE ARE DEALING WITH THAT. THIS IS ALSO A VERY IMPORTANT PHOTO AND I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IT. IN THIS IS A IMMEDIATELY IS PART OF OUR PROPERTY BUT THE LOT IMMEDIATELY IN BACK OF US. SO WHEN YOU JUST LOOK AT A MAP, IT LOOKS LIKE WE TAKE UP THE ENTIRE AREA. WE DON'T. THIS IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF YARD THAT IS IN BACK OF PROPERTY, BEFORE YOU GET TO THE RESIDENTIAL. THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSE ON 8th AVENUE DIRECTLY IN BACK OF US. AND YOU CAN SEE IT IS BOARDED UP AND VACANT AND NOT IN VERY GOOD SHAPE. THIS 8th AVENUE. 8th AVENUE LOOKING WEST. YOU SEE A LOT OF OPEN SPACE HERE. THIS IS THE PARKING LOT QUESTIONS AT THE LAST HEARING WHAT KIND OF AN ESTABLISHMENT THIS WAS. IT IS AS RESTAURANT. HERE A PHOTO OF THE MENU. A FULL THEN EWE INCLUDING A BRUNCH MENU. THERE IS A FULL KITCHEN. MORE EXAMPLES OF THE KITCHEN. ALSO A COFFEE WAR PRESENT. IT IS TRYING TO BE A RESTAURANT. YOU CAN SEE SORT OF THE LAYOUT OF THAT. BASICALLY THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY A PARKING LOT ON ONE SIDE AND AN ABANDONED HOUSE IN EIGHTH AVENUE AND A VACANT LOT IN BACK AND A COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE STREET. THE USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS BASED ON THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT I SHOWED YOU. SADDLE BAG TOO TOYING AT THAT ACHE A ROLE OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR SERIOUSLY. THEY HAD NEIGHBORS TO SEE THE PROPERTY AND WHAT IT IS ABOUT. AND THEY ARE TAKE THEIR ROLE VERY SERIOUSLY. THEY ARE KEEPING ANY PROBLEMS DOWN. PREVIOUSLY INTRODUCED INTO THE RECORD AND I AM GOING TO INTRODUCE AGAINST AN ACOUSTIC ANALYSIS DEALING WITH NOISE AND A SAFETY PLAN THEY ARE FOLLOWING. WE ALSO HAVE TEN E-MAILS IN SUPPORT THAT I WILL BE SUBMITTING INTO THE RECORD. IT IS FUNDMENT ALLEY UNFAIR FOR A ESTABLISHMENT LIKE THIS IN YBOR CITY TO BE RESTRICTED IN A WAY THAT OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS SIMILARLY SITUATE READY NOT RESTRICTED. WE RESPECTFUL LEGAL ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK WHO ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR SUPPORT. I WILL RESERVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL AND SUBMIT IT INTO THE RECORD AT THE TIME OF THE HEARING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ARE THEY GOING TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT OR -- >> YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. START WITH YOUR NAME PLEASE. >> BRIANNE YORK. NICE TO MEET YOU. GENERAL MANAGER OF SADDLE BAGS. I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE JUST BEFORE OPENING. I PRIDE MYSELF KEEPING A VERY CLEAN, ENJOYABLE SAFETY ENVIRONMENT FOR EVERY GUEST THAT WALKS THROUGH THE DOOR. WE HAVE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMING BY. A LOT OF REGULARS THAT COME BY. WE HAVE DONE A BUNCH OF THEMED EVENTS. WE HAVE DONE EVENTS FOR CHARITY. WE HAVE PROFESSIONALS THAT COME IN FOR LUNCH ALMOST EVERY SINGLE DAY AND DINNER RESERVATIONS AS WELL FOR FAMILIES. I PERSONALLY TEACH THE LINE DANCING LESSONS ON SATURDAY NIGHT FOR EVERYBODY. SO I -- I JUST LOVE THIS PLACE. AND IT IS JUST -- IT IS TOUGH TO SURVIVE CLOSING AT NIGHT. SO THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. DAVID BECKER. I AM THE SECURITY MANAGER FOR SADDLEBAGS, TIME AS PRE IAN. I HAVE BEEN THERE JUST BEFORE OPENING AUTOMAKERS MY NUMBER ONE THING OF WORKING ESPECIALLY IN THIS TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT, THIS TIME OF, LIKE, HOSPITALITY, FULL, THAT THE PEOPLE COME FIRST. I AM NOT THERE TO BE A -- LIKE INTIMIDATE ORGANIZE ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I WANT TO CREATE AS MUCH OF A SAFE ENVIRONMENT AND AS FUN ENVIRONMENT THAT I CAN. I HAVE A VERY HIGHLY TRAINED SECURITY STAFF. I AM A VETERAN AS WELL AS HALF OF MY STAFF ARE IN TURN -- SORRY, I AM NOT THAT GOOD AT PUBLIC SPEAKING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ARE DOING GREAT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. IT IS DEFINITELY GREAT WITH OUR HOURS, BUT WE STRIVE TO MAINTAIN A VERY CLEAN SPACE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE. BUT IF YOU WOULD -- ACTUALLY I AM GOING TO CLOSE IT THERE. I AM NOT VERY GOOD AT THIS. THANK YOU, GUYS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. HELLO, AGAIN. >> ISMAL DE SAN TOES. MY PURPOSE IN COME SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN VISITING SADDLEBAGS AND A GREAT, UNIQUE -- WHAT'S YOUR NAME? >> PORTER. >> MR. PORTER STATED THAT THE LOCATION OF THE BUSINESS IS IMPORTANT FOR SEVERAL REASONS. I DO EVENT PROMOTIONS FOR THE HARD ROCK. I DO EVENT PROMOTIONS FOR AROUND THE CITY IN 20 YEARS IN PINELLAS, TARPON SPRINGS AND I OWN THE BUSINESS ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE WHICH IS NOT OPEN ANYMORE. IT WAS AN EVENT CENTER. BUT THE -- THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING IS IMPORTANT FOR WHAT I FRY TO DO, WHICH IS BRING PROFESSIONAL NETWORKING EVENTS TO THE CITY, JUST BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN THE CENTER OF YBOR WHERE A LOT OF CONCENTRATION HAMS WAY LOT OF NIGHT ACTIVITIES. BEING ABLE TO BE BRING THAT MORE PROFESSIONAL 25-54 PROFESSIONAL GROUP IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT BEING THERE. AND BEING OPEN LATER WILL ALLOW US TO GO AHEAD AND ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE TO YBOR CITY. I DO A LOT IN THE LATIN COMMUNITY AND HARD TO DO STUFF IN THE LATIN COMMUNITY IN YBOR CITY BELIEVE IT OR NOT WITH THE HISTORY OF WHAT IT IS. IT IS HARD TO DRAW PEOPLE THERE. HARD TO DRAW BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED BEFORE. BUT FACT BE THIS IS AT THE OTHER END OF 7th AVENUE, IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME. AND IN TRYING TO GET SOME OF THAT REPORT PROFESSIONAL -- PROFESSIONAL, I GUESS, ENVIRONMENT BACK IN THERE FOR MEETINGS FOR WHAT MIGHT BE SMALL GATHERINGS MUSIC. LOCATION SOMETHING GREAT BECAUSE OF THE PARKING. PARKING ADJACENT TO IT. THERE IS THE -- AGAIN, THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS IT IS AWAY FROM, I GUESS -- I GUESS THE WESTERN SIDE OF 7th AVENUE AND DEVELOPING THAT OTHER SIDE, I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN ATTRACTED TO TO DOING ECONVENIENCE IN BORE YBOR. AND ALWAYS CHALLENGE WITH THE WORKING. AND HAD THE CHALLENGE BECAUSE WHAT HAS ATTRACTED DOWN THEREIN IN HOURS FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS SPECIFICALLY. BUT EXTENDING THE HOURS HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE. I HAVE GONE TO THE VENUE AND EVERYBODY -- SAY GO LOOK AT THAT LOCATION. BUT WHEN I GO -- I HAVE GONE CONTINUE TO THEM AND THEY ARE LIKE WE ARE RESTRICTED TO THESE HOURS. IT HAVEN'T BEEN HAPPENING. IT REALLY IS A THE MAPPER OF CAN WE BRING PROFESSIONALS DOWN THERE ON ITS WEEKENDS, KEEP THEM AWAY FROM WHERE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE, WHICH A MUCH YOUNGER AUDIENCE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AVENUE. I THINK FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD HIGHLY HOPE YOU CONSIDER EXTENDING THOSE HOURS. I THINK IT WILL BE GREAT TO CONTINUE TO GROW IN DIRECTION THAT YBOR WANTS TO GO TO BRING IN OLDER PROFESSIONALS BACK TO THERE. BUT THE RESTRICTED HOURS AS WELL. I AM BOOKING STUFF WHEN IT COMES TO NETWORKING. SOMETIMES DOWNTOWN AND SOME OF THE STUFF -- A LOT HAPPENING AT THE HARD ROCK. IT IS THE HARD ROCK. BUT I THINK HOPE THAT YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE VENUE WITH PARKING AWAY FROM ALL THE OTHER ACTION WHICH HAS BEEN NEGATIVELY LOOKED AT ON 7th AVENUE. AND I THINK THE DIRECTION GOING FORWARD, THIS TYPE OF VENUE WILL BE NEEDED. AND THAT -- IN THAT PART OF THE -- IN WHAT HE IS GOING ON WITHIN MAKING IT MORE RESIDENTIAL. AND HOPEFULLY CHANGES WILL HAPPEN HOPEFULLY IN THE OTHER INLAND, BUT I THINK EXTENDING THESE HOURS WILL HELP PEOPLE LIKE ME HOE HAVE ASKED ME TO GO LOOK AT THAT VENUE FOR DIFFERENT EVENTS AND PROBABLY BRINGING THEM AND HELPING THEM SURVIVE. IT'S 'TOUGH. THOSE HOURS ARE TOUGH. AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS GOING ON THE OTHER END IS TOUGH TO DEAL WITH WHAT IS GOING ON IN THAT AND ANY -- IN YBOR CITY. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. IS THAT IT? >> THAT'S IF FOR THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: SO I AM GOING TO ASK YOU THE ANNUAL FOOD SALES QUESTION, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A YEAR YET. >> I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THAT YET. OPERATING AS A RESTAURANT. THAT IS WHAT THEIR GOAL AND I DON'T HAVE INFORMATION AT THAT THE.BECAUSE IT HAVEN'T BEEN A YEAR YET. THEY OPENED DECEMBER 27. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY. INVEST GO-- VERY GOOD. IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM, LINE UP ON THE WALL AND WE WILL CALL IT IN ORDER. WAS EVERYBODY HERE SWORN IN. ANYBODY HERE HIS OR HER MASS NOT BEEN SWORN IN? SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOU ARE PEACE. EVERYBODY HAS BEEN SWORN IN. START WITH YOUR NAME. >> GOOD EVENING, DENISE SANSOR, THE PRESIDENT OF THE HISTORIC EAST YBOR AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND I'M HERE RECOMMENDING MYSELF AND ALL THE MEMBERS. JUST WANT TO SAY GOOD EVENING AGAIN AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING US TONIGHT. I AM SPEAK FOR THE HISTORIC EAST YBOR TO STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS REQUEST UNTIL 2 A.M. OUR COMMUNITY IS UNITED AGAINST THIS CHANGE. AND THIS IS WHY. SADDLEBAGS ORIGINALLY APPLIED AS A RESTAURANT. NOT A NIGHT CLUB. EXTENDING TO 2 A.M. WITH A 800 PERSON CAPACITY MAKES THEM A CLUB, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. YOU KNOW THIS VIOLATES THE SPIRIT OF THEIR -- VIOLATES THEIR SPIRIT UNDER THE ORIGINAL TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH PRIORITIZESING YBOR'S NIGHT LIFE WITH OUR HIS FOR TICK NEIGHBORHOODS ALLOWING THIS TO RISK THAT BALANCE. TALK ABOUT ORDINANCE ARE CHAPTER 14, ARTICLE IV, CAPS NIGHTTIME AT 55 DECIBELS AT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINES. SADDLEBAGS LESS THAN 25 II 50 FEET EXCEEDS THAT WITH LATE-NIGHT CROWDS AND INDOOR MUSIC. CLOSE AT 11 WITH COLUMBIA AND CAFE SEFANO. 2 A.M. IGNORES THAT PRECEDENCE AND PEACE. AND ADEQUATE STREET PARKING. 800 PATRONS, SADDLEBAGS LOT WILL OVERFLOW AND SPILL INTO OUR RESIDENTIAL RIGHT-OF-WAY. RESTRICT SPECIAL EVENT PARKING TO STOP CONGESTION BUT LATE-NIGHT CROWDS WILL CLOG OUR FIGHTS. CHAPTER 27 THAT BUSINESSES KEEP THE AREA CLEAN, BUT A 2 A.M. CLUB SCENE WILL LEAVE BOTTLE, WRAPPERS AND TRASH IN OUR YARDS. THE 20923 7th AVENUE SHOOTING KILLED TWO AND INJURED 16. AND IN 2016 CLUB SKY SAW EIGHT WOUNDED .20719, ORPHEUM HAD FIVE HURT. TAMPA'S POLICE REPORT OVER 1200 CORES IN YBOR'S NIGHT LIFE. 300 BEING FOR DISTURBANCE AND FIGHTS IN VENUES LIKE FACADE GRANT LEBAGS. 2 A.M. CLOSE CREATES CHAOSES WITH FAMILIES STEPS AWAY. THE FAMILIAR NOISE KEEPING KIDS AWAY, CARS BLOCKING STREETS AND TRASH PILING UP AND VIOLENCE LOOMING. TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DEMANDS BALANCE. SADDLEBAGS AT A NIGHT CLUB WILL THROW THAT OUT. KEEP YBOR SAFE AND LIVABLE AND KEEP THEM TO THEIR 11:00 TIME AS YOU WISELY HAD BEFORE. I DID WANT TO JUST SHOW THE -- A FEW THINGS. YOU KNOW THEY KEEP STATING THAT THEY ARE A RESTAURANT, BUT SINCE WHEN DO YOU CHARGE AN ENTRY FEE TO ENTER A RESTAURANT? THE INCONSISTENCY WITH THE HOURS. YOU ASKED TO BE -- WE VISITED THIS A FEW MONTHS BEFORE. IT WAS A NO. NOW YOU PUT IN A REVISION FOR 3 A.M. YOU REVISE THAT AGAIN TO 2 A.M., BUT YOUR WEB SITE CLEARLY SAYS UNTIL THE PARTY STOPS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. >> THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS LUKE SWANSON. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE APPLICANT. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT SADDLEBAGS HAS BEEN A SAFE PLACE THAT I CAN GO. AND BEING OPEN LATER CERTAINLY OPENS UP A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE SURE THIS BUSINESS DOESN'T FAIL. I WILL BE CONCERNED IF IT DOESN'T GET THE EX-INTENDED HOURS, IT WILL BE A VACANT BUILDING WITHIN A YEAR. REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. NE NEXT. >> HELLO, RYAN WELLS. I'M THE OWNER AND CHAIR OLDER OF PICTURE FRONT TAMPA BAY. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE APPLICANT ON TWO DIFFERENT LEVELS. ONE, AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. SADDLEBAGS HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF SUPPORTING OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES. IN YBOR, THERE IS A HEAVIER PARTY SCENE AND NOT A VERY BIG COMMUNITY SCENE. SADDLEBAG IS ONE OF THE FIRST LOCATIONS THAT I HAVE SEEN THAT HAS BEEN SUPPORTING THE COMMUNITY. AND IT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN DOING EVENTS THAT ACTUALLY BRING PEOPLE IN A -- A COMMUNITY STANDARD MORE OF A WHOLESOME EXPERIENCE RATHER THAN JUST A PARTY SCENE. I ALSO SNEAKING OF THAT PARTY SCENE. SOMEONE THAT DOES GO OUT THEM 70s AS A -- AS A YOUNG PERSON. I GENERALLY AVOID YBOR, WHICH, YOU KNOW, REMOVALS BUSINESS FROM YOU GUYS. HOWEVER, I -- WITH -- WITH LOCATIONS LIKE SADDLEBAGS THAT HAS BROUGHT ME AND MY FRIENDS BACK TO YBOR BECAUSE IT IS SPECIFICALLY A SAFER, CLEANER ENVIRONMENT THAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN MORE CONDUCIVE FOR PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WHO ENJOY ACTUAL COMMUNITY EVENTS. THINGS THAT BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER TO LEARN TOGETHER SUCH AS LINE DANCING, THEIR LATIN NIGHTS OPPOSED TO BLARING CLUB MUSIC AND THROWING EACH OTHER AROUND ON THE DANCE FLOOR. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. NE NEXT. >> TOWN SEND BELTON. HE MIGHT HAVE MISSED AN TUNE WHEN THE APPLICANT BUT I'M HERE WITH CASA YBOR WHICH IS THE MANAGER OF THE OWNER OF ENTITY. I RECENT OWE OPENED MY NEW PRACTICE ON 1809 EAST 8th AVENUE. AND A NEW BUSINESS IN YBOR CITY. FROM THE -- FROM THE PROPERTY MANAGER'S VIEWPOINT, IT IS REALLY TRYING TO MAKE YBOR CITY A PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY. AND IT IS VERY INTERESTED AND CONCERNED WITH THE DISTRICT. IT IS NOT REALLY BEEN SHY ABOUT -- I CAN SAY THIS WITH MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE REPRESENTING IT, NOT SHY OF ENFORCING NONVIOLATION OF LEASES INCLUDING OBTAINING AN INJUNCTION TO STOP A NIGHT CLUB THAT IT WAS OPERATING AROUND THE TIME THAT THE SUPER BOWL WAS HERE. OR HAVING DEFAULT NOTICES SENT WHEN ITS TENANTS HAVE BEEN ENGAGING IN CONDUCT THAT HAS DRAWN VIOLATIONS OF CODES AND ORDINANCES. SO CERTAINLY WANT TO SEE IS THE -- THE DISTRICT DO WELL AND BECOME THAT CAN LIVE-WORK AND PLAY. IT IS ALSO PLUGGED INTO THE COMMUNITY. AND HAS NOT REALLY HAD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE CURRENT OPERATIONS THAT SADDLEBAGS HAVE HAD. I CAN SAY FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN HAVING MY OFFICE A MONTH AGO BEING IN THE WELLS FARGO BUILDING DOWNTOWN AND MY CURRENT OFFICE AT 1308 EAST 8th THIS THEY SHARE ONE THING IN COMMON LESS THAN A BLOCK FROM THE TROLLEY STOP. WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT SADDLE BAGS, NOTHING ELSE IN THIS DISTRICT WHETHER YOU ARE LOOKING THROUGH DOWNTOWN THROUGH THE CHANNELSIDE DISTRICT TO YBOR CITY THAT IS DOING SAME TYPE OF ENTERTAINMENT IN THE PLAY ELEMENT. ADDS DIVERSITY TO THE PLAY ELEMENT. SADDLEBAGS HAS BEEN CLEAR WITH CERTAINLY THE -- THE -- THE PROPERTY MANAGER ALSOS THAT IT IS -- IT DOES BELIEVE IT IS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT. SO JUST WANTED TO BE HERE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR ITS REQUEST THAT IT SEEMS LIKE IT HAS BEEN A GOOD OPERATOR NOT DRAWING ANY TYPES OF REAL COMPLAINTS ABOUT WHAT IT HAS BEEN DOING. AND WHEN I REVIEWED THE COMMENTS SUBMITTED, THERE WEREN'T REALLY COMPLAINT OF ITS ACTUAL OPERATIONS IT IS GOING THROUGH NOW. IT IS MORE -- SEEMS LIKE CONCERNS WHAT IT MIGHT DO IN THE FUTURE IF THE HOURS WERE EXTENDED. WITH THAT, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT. ONE PERSON REGISTERED ONLINE. FRAN CONSTANTINO. CAN YOU HEAR ME? FRAN, PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA ON. DID WE UNMUTE HER OR MUTED. >> I SHARED MY -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE STILL CAN'T SEE YOU. >> THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT ACTUALLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL GIVE YOU A FEW MINUTES TO SEE IF YOU CAN UNSHARE YOUR CAMERA. DID YOU WORK CCTV STAFF TO GET THAT -- SOME IT IS NOT ON OUR SIDE? IT IS ON OUR SIDE? >>BILL CARLSON: POLICE JOHNSON-VELEZ OR WHOEVER. THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR REPRESENTATIVE PRESENTED THAT EVIDENCE THAT THE -- THAT THE APPLICANT IS CHARGING A COVER CHARGE UNLIKE A RESTAURANT AND ALSO THAT THEY ARE -- THEIR HOURS WERE UNTIL THE PARTY STORMS. IS THAT -- IS THAT RELEVANT TO THE CASE? OR. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED AND IS -- COUNCIL'S -- WITHIN COUNCIL'S PURVIEW TO WEIGH THE EVIDENCE AND THE RELEVANCY AND THE WEIGHT. >>BILL CARLSON: HOW DOES THAT TRANSLATE WITH THE CODE. ARE THEY UNDER A RESTAURANT LICENSE AND THEY ARE OPERATING PAZ A BAR? IS THAT RELEVANT? HOW -- >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I WILL ASK -- I BELIEVE THEY ARE A LARGE VENUE. SO I DON'T BELIEVE THEY ARE A RESTAURANT NECESSARILY. BUT I WILL ASK MR. DEBARDELEBEN TO ADDRESS THAT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. STAFF SAID THERE WAS TALK OF A REPORTING REQUIREMENT AND ALARM VE VENUE, WAS THAT AN ADDED CONDITION TO THE SITE PLAN. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: LEO DEBARDELEBEN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. WITH THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION AND CONTINUE WITH THIS, IF IT IS APPROVED. THE APPLICANT IS A LARGE VENUE. SO THERE ARE SUBCATEGORIES UNDER THAT LARGE VENUE CLASSIFICATION. THE APPLICANT ORIGINALLY AGREED TO DO THE REPORTING IN, LIKE, A GOOD-FAITH EFFORT TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE A TRADITIONAL BAR. SO THEY HAVEN'T REPORTED YET. NOT THEIR TIME TO REPORT YET. BUT THEY DID AGREE TO THOSE HOURS, THE RESTAURANT HOURS -- SORRY, THE RESTAURANT USE IN A GOOD-FAITH EFFORT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL GIVE FRAN JUST ANOTHER MINUTE TO GET HER CAMERA SET UP. >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOLD ON A SECOND. BECAUSE WE ARE IN PUBLIC COMMENT, I THINK WE NEED TO -- >>LYNN HURTAK: OH, OKAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEFORE WE TAKE ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. SEE IF FRAN COMES BACK ONLINE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD HARM THE RECORD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: TO THE APPLICANT, I HAVE TO ASSUME THAT THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS IS BEING RUN IN SUCH A WAY THAT THEY KNOW WHERE THEIR REVENUE IS COMING FROM ON A MONTH-TO-MONTH BASIS. SO I REALLY NEED TO KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING AS A RESTAURANT AND SO FAR HAVE HAD THE 51% OF -- BECAUSE ALL YOU HAVE THIS IS MOOT IF IN DECEMBER THEY COME AND SAY THEY DON'T MAKE 51%. THEY ARE OUT OF BUSINESS. SO I -- I MEAN, WOULD HAVE ASSUMED THAT COMING HERE, WOULD YOU HAVE HAD SOMETHING, ANYTHING -- CAN ANYONE TESTIFY? >> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT COUNCILWOMAN TO APPRECIATE WHY WE ARE HERE. WE ARE HERE TO EXTEND THE MILES PER HOUR OF OPERATION. AS THE STAFF SAID A LARGE VENUE. THEY ARE OPERATING AS RESTAURANT. THEY HAVE A FULL KIFRMEN AND THEY HAVE A MENU. THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT -- I DIDN'T REP THE APPLICANT THE FIRST TIME AROUND AND I DIDN'T MAKE ANY COMMITMENT. NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT THAT THEY DO THAT. AS A GOOD-FAITH EFFORT TO SHOW A RESTAURANT. SUBMITTED THE MENU INTO THE RECORD. SHOWED THAT THEY HAVE A FULL KITCHEN. YOU HEARD THE GENERAL MANAGER TESTIFY UNDER OPPONENT THAT THEY HAVE PEOPLE FOR LUNCH AND FOR DINNER. THAT IS ALL WE CAN GO -- AS FAR AS YOU CAN GO LEGALLY, ALL WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT. I ALSO STATED I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN OWN FOR A YEAR YET. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE. FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, THEY ARE A LARGE VENUE. THEY ARE COMMITTING TO OPERATE AS A RESTAURANT. THEY ARE FULLY EQUIPPED TO BE A RESTAURANT. AND THEY ARE ACTING AS A RESTAURANT. THAT REALLY IS NOT PART OF YOUR DECISION MAKING TODAY AS FAR AS THE REPORTING. I UNDERSTAND SOMETHING YOU ARE INTERESTED IN, BUT I THINK YOUR DECISION NEEDS TO BE BASED ON WHAT IT IS AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR WITH COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. MR. DEBARDELEBEN, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU AGAIN. BECAUSE THOSE WERE CONFLICTING STATEMENTS. HE SAID IT IS NOT ON SITE PLAN, THE 51% FOOD. AND YOU SAID IT IS ON THE SITE PLAN. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: YES. LET ME, I THINK, PUT THAT COPY OF THE SP SITE PLAN UP. IF YOU CAN SEE IT. YOU CAN BARELY SEE IT BUT IN THE SITE DATA TABLE. >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU CAN SEE THE WHEEL AT THE TOP. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HAS AUTO FOCUS. >>LYNN HURTAK: SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO HAVE CCTV TO FOCUS THAT FOR US. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVEN IF THAT WAS FOCUSED I COULDN'T READ THAT. >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE, SEE. I KNEW IT. THEY ARE MAGIC BACK THERE. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: SO ITEM -- NUMBER -- GENERAL NOTE 21, THE PROPERTY OWNER, LICENSE OWNER MUST MAINTAIN ACCURATE RECORD OF DAILY FOOD AND ALCOHOL SALES AND SUBMIT AN ANNUAL REPORT. HURTAK HOME RUN OKAY, IT DOESN'T SAY IT HAS 250B 1%. >> THAT IS WHAT THE REPORT ALSO CON FIRM. WE DO -- ANNUAL REPORTING AND IF THEY ARE NOT, THEN THEY ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE -- OF THEIR SITE PLAN. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, THANK YOU. REASON THIS IS IMPORTANT IS, AGAIN, I AM GOING TO GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL THING. I THINK IT IS TOO EARLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY. THE SPEAK THEIR WAS ONLINE IS UNABLE TO GET HER TECHNOLOGY BROUGHT ON LINE, SO WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ACCEPT HER PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT. THAT WILL CLOSE -- THAT WILL BE THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE A -- A REBUTTAL. >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU HAVE REBUTTAL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WELL, ACTUALLY -- SORB IS THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL? OKAY, MR. PORTER. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY CONFUSION, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. THAT MAKES SENSE OF WHAT HE IS SAYING. WITH THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN OFFICIAL AND WHAT'S THERE. WE WILL COMMIT TO THAT, BUT IT HAVEN'T BEEN A FULL YEAR YET WHICH IS PART OF YOUR ISSUE. THERE WE ARE. LET ME SAY AT THE OUTSET, COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE HER COMING DOWN HERE AND SPEAKING. I FULLY UNDERSTAND HER CONCERNS. ALTHOUGH I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THE THINGS SHE MENTIONED AND THINGS SHE SAID WERE ALSO BROUGHT UP AT THE FIRST HEARING. AND THEY HAVE NOT COME TO PASS. AND THAT REALLY IS THE WHOLE POINT OF WHY WE ARE HERE. THERE WERE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING, BEFORE SPILL OVER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ABOUT NOISE. ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE PRESENTED THAT ANY OF THOSE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED. SO I UNDERSTAND -- UNDERSTAND RESPECTFULLY THAT PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED. OPEN SEVEN MONTHS, NOT A YEAR BUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME AND NO EVIDENCE ON THE RECORD THAT WE VIOLATED ANY LAW. WE ARE NOT UNDER A CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATION SITUATION. WE HAVE BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS AND A SECURITY SYSTEM IN PLACE. WE HAVE DONE A SOUND ORDINANCE AND WE ARE BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS AND BEING RESPECTFUL. IF COUNCIL WILL MOVE THIS FORWARD, I WOULD LOVE TO MEET WITH HER AND HER GROUP AND TALK YOU HAVE OTHER WAYS TO BE A BETTER NEIGHBOR. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOUR ATTORNEY WILL REMIND YOU THAT YOUR DECISION NEEDS TO BE BASED ON COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. YOU HAD COMPREHENSIVE TENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE PRESENTED WITH THE NOISE EVALUATION, WITH THE SECURITY PLAN. WITH THE PHOTOS. WITH YOUR STAFF'S TESTIMONY AND WITH THE TESTIMONY OF THE PEOPLE HERE TODAY. SO I AM GOING TO RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND ANSWER OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN DID YOU PUT THIS APPLICATIONING IN? >> MARCHISH -- AS I TESTIFY -- NOT TESTIFYING BUT REPRESENTING. I COUNSELS THE APPLICANT TO WAIT AND THEY REALLY COULDN'T WAIT. WHEN IT COMES MARCH, IT TAKES THIS LONG TO MOVE FORWARD. THEY WANTED ME TO FILE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. UNDERSTAND. COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. TIME TRYING TO CONVEY THEIR DESPERATION FROM A FINANCIAL SITUATION, AND THAT'S WHY IT IS HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT, THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM THINKING TO MYSELF AND I AM HAVING BRAINSTORM OR BLOOD LEAK SOMEWHERE BECAUSE RESTAURANTS ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS THINGS IN THE WORLD TO DO. 30% TO 40% OF ALL RESTAURANTS CLOSE WITHIN FIVE YEARS WHEN THEY OPEN. IT IS AS HIGH RATE OF -- THIS COUNCIL DIDN'T MAKE THE AGREEMENT. YOUR CLIENT MADE THE AGREEMENT FOR THESE HOURS. WE JUST LISTENED TO IT. WHEN I SIT HERE AND LISTEN, NAME ME ONE RESTAURANT OF GOOD STANDING TO HAVE A SECURITY STAFF, AND I WILL TELL YOU HOW MANY, NONE. WHY DO WE HAVE A SECURITY STAFF FOR? THAT IS IN MY MIND TO BRING IT OUT. AND THE JAT SEEMS TO BE VERY NICE, OUTSTANDING GENTLEMAN, BY THE WAY. AND I SIT HERE AND I LISTEN, AND KNOWING WHAT I KNOW, AROUND I STARTED IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS WHEN I WAS 14 YEARS OLD. I WORKED IN COLUMBIA RESTAURANT AND SPANISH PARK. AT 16, I WAS NUMB LAKE GEORGE, NEW YORK FOR SEVEN SUMMERS. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME AN EXPERT, BUT I KNOW HOW TO RUN A RESTAURANT. I WAS A MANAGING PARTNER FOR TEN YEARS. I LEFT BECAUSE I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. AND IT WAS EVEN MORE DAYBREAK RUSS OPINION. I WENT TO TRAIN RACEHORSES. BUT SAYING THAT , IT'S -- WE AR NOT HERE -- THE DEAL THAT WAS MADE -- YOUR CLIENT THAT WAS NOT YOUR CLIENT BECAUSE YOU WASN'T REPRESENTING HIM AT THE TIME AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, MR. MORTGAGOR. I KNOW YOU ARE AROUND OUTSTANDING ATTORNEY. BUT I -- THIS IS COMING LIKE FOR US TO -- [ INAUDIBLE ] -- IS THAT FAIR TO THE PUBLIC? YES, NO RECORD OF ANYTHING GOING ON AT THIS LEVEL. CLOSING AT THESE HOURS. YOUR TESTIMONY IS CORRECT UP TO THAT POINT. BUT ONCE YOU GET TO THE OTHER LEVEL, THERE IS NO TESTIMONY THAT CAN HANDLE THAT. BECAUSE IT IS NOT HAPPENED. SOB IT IS FINE AND IT IS NOT GREAT, BUT IT IS FINE. I APPRECIATE IT. YOU ARE THE -- YOU ARE RECOMMEND YOUR CLIENT, YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. SOME GOING ON THOSE THINGS, IT -- IT -- I AM CONCERNED ABOUT WILL HAPPEN. FIRST OF ALL, EAST OF 2nd STREET, THERE IS VERY LITTLE ACTIVITYP. EVER EVER E-- VERY LITTLE ACTIVITY. RESTAURANTS CLOSE TO EACH OTHER ARE BETTER THAN YOU ARE APART. ONE DAY YOU EAT HERE AND NEXT DAY YOU EAT HERE. BUT WITH A NAME OF SADDLEBAGS, NOTHING WRONG WITH IT, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE A NAME THAT SELLS RESTAURANT. YOU KNOW, YOU ARE GO WENDY'S SELLS HAMBURGER. McDONALD IS HAMBURGERS. YOU HAVE GREAT RESTAURANTS LIKE DONATELLO, THE COLUMBIA, BERN'S, THEY MEAN SOMETHING WITH A NAME LIKE THAT. WITH A NAME BY ITSELF, IT IS LIKE LINE DANCING BECAUSE -- THAT IS WHAT I LOOK AT IT AS. WHICH IS FINE. BUT THE ARGUMENT THAT I SEE HERE IS -- IT IS NOT SELLING ME ON MOVING 2:00 IN THE MORNING. BECAUSE I HEARD NOTHING ABOUT IT. I HEARD VERY LITTLE CONCERNING WHAT COULD HAPPEN. AND WE DO HAVE EVIDENCE OF YBOR CITY WHAT CAN HAPPEN. AND BECAUSE OF THE PROLIFERATION OF THOSE LOUNGES THAT ARE NOT RESTAURANTS. I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS THE CASE, I AM SAYING THAT IS WHAT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM IN YBOR CITY. SO WHAT CAN HAPPEN AFTER THAT, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE DON'T A 51%-49%. IN FACT I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY EVEN CHECKS ON THAT. WE USED TO HAVE A LINE EVERY THREE OR FOUR MONTHS THAT WOO GO ALL AROUND HERE. THE WHOLE CHAMBER WOULD BE FULL. I THINK YOU REMEMBER THAT. WE WOULD FINE PEOPLE, AND FOR SOME EVEN CLOSE THEM DOWN BECAUSE THE VIOLATED THE LAW. AND MAYBE WE HAVE DONE THAT BUT I AM NOT APRIL TUNED IN THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THE RULES ARE CHANGED IN THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS DOING IN CITY. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE DOING THE AUDITS BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN NO ACTION CONTINUE TO FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS. IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATIONING THAT THIS COUNCIL IS IN. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE MOVING PAST THAT. SHE COULDN'T GET IT FIXED. COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WONDER FOR MARTY OR MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ. ARE WE ALLOW TO REFER TO THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE FROM THE LAST HIRING? AND/OR CAN WE ADOPT THAT AS -- TO BE RECEIVE AND FILE AS EVIDENCE FOR THERE ARE HEARING? >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ, UNLESS YOU THIS CHANGE IS TO THE HOURS OF OPERATION. AND THE HOURS OF OPERATION, THOSE HOURS WERE PUNT IN PLACE AT THE TIME BECAUSE THAT WAS RELEVANT TO ADJUSTING FOR ADVERSE IMPACTS. SO NOW IF THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE -- SO THE ONLY TO YOUR QUESTION AND THE FACT THAT IT WAS RAISED HERE IS THAT, YES, THE -- THE APPLICATION -- THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION AND THE SITE PLAN THAT HAS NOT SHAKED EXCEPT FOR THE HOURS OF OPERATION IS RELEVANT. >> I HAVE TO SAY -- I NEED TO GET A VERY STRONG OBJECTION ON THE RECORD. THIS IS A NEW APPLICATION. DUE PROCESS CONCERNS WITH THIS. THIS THIS IS A FULL NEW HEARING. THE OTHER HEARING IS RELEVANT TO THE EXTENT WE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. BUT LET ME REGISTER ON THE RECORD A VERY STRONG OBJECTION TO ANY CONSIDERATION OTHER THAN IN THE CONFINES OF THIS HEARING TONIGHT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN THE SENSE THAT -- SORRY, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. THE REASON THAT IT CAME UP WAS BECAUSE IT WAS RAISED IN THE COURSE OF THE HEARING AND IT WAS EITHER BROUGHT ORIGINALLY IN THIS HEARING AS EVIDENCE, AND TW EVIDENCE /* AND WAS RESPOND TO. AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER YOU ARE RELYING ONLY THE SITE PLAN PRESENTED NOW AND RELYING ON THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD. AUTOMAKERS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, DO I HAVE A MOTION SOMETHING IN. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO GIVE A MOTION TO CLOSE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL GIVE HIM ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY. >> I RESPECT MR. SHELBY'S OPINION, BUT I FEEL THIS IS A QUASI JU DISH STHAL HEARING. IF THIS WAS EVER CHALLENGED IN COURT, THE RECORD OF TONIGHT'S HEARING IS WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER NOT THE RECORD OF THE PREVIOUS HEARING. THAT HAS TO -- AS LONG AS MY OBJECTION IS NOTED FOR THE RECORD. CLENDENIN CONTACT LENSES I WANTED TO GIVE YOU -- BECAUSE WE HAD MORE DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL. GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY -- >> I APPRECIATE THAT CHAIRMAN -- SHELBY IF I CAN, SORRY TO INTERRESULT, MR. PORTER. I WANT TO COMMENT ON WHAT MR. PORTER SAID BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS RELEVANT. TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU HARKEN BACK TO EVIDENCE THAT WAS DEDUCED AT THE INITIAL AMERICA, THEIR NOT PART OF THIS RECORD, THAT IS NOT RELEVANT. WHAT IS RELEVANT IS THE SITE PLAN THAT IS PRESENTED AND SOMETHING UPON WHICH YOU CAN BASE AND THE REASONS THAT THOSE CONDITIONS ARE ON THAT SITE PANEL WILL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY MR. PORTER FOR INTERRUPT YOU. >>BILL CARLSON: QUESTIONS IN A DEO HEARING. FOR EXAMPLE, SETBACK RULES ARE WE ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THAT BUT ONLY RELEVANT IN THE PREVIOUS HEARING? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY. >> SITE PLAN AS IT EXISTS NOW EXISTS AND THE OWN REQUEST BEFORE IS YOU THE HOURS OF OPERATION. THAT IS THE ONLY RELEVANT DECISION UPON WHICH YOU CAN TAKE EVIDENCE AND APPLY IT TO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY, CAN I ASK -- MAYBE A STATEMENT OR A QUESTION. THE SITE PLAN IS IN EVIDENCE IN THIS HEARING. SO ALL THE INFORMATION HAS BEEN PRESENTED THIS THIS HEARING IS EVIDENCE THAT WE HEAR. UNLESS SOMETHING HAS BEEN RESTATED AND WHICH ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE ON THIS HEARING. SO THINGS THAT WERE NOT PRESENTED THIS EVENING WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED OF A DECISION THAT WE MAKE TONIGHT. DECISION WE MAKE TONIGHT IS ONLY BASED ONLY THE EVIDENCE BY THE TIME WE GAVELED INTO THE HEARING AND CLONED THIS HEARING ONLY EVIDENCE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT. THROUGH OUR RECOLLECTION IF WE REMEMBER IN LAST HEARING. IF IT WASN'T DISCUSSED AND PUNT INTO EVIDENCE IN THIS HEARING, IT SHOULDN'T BE BE USED IN CONSIDERATION THIS TIME AROUND. CORRECT? SHELBY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ALLOWS YOU AS THE BOARD TO PLACE CONDITIONS ON A SITE PLAN, SPECIFICALLY TO PREVENT OR ADDRESS ADVERSE IMPACTS. YOUR RECOLLECTION AND YOUR TESTIMONY AND THE TESTIMONY YOU HEARD TODAY WAS THERE WERE CONDITIONS PLACED ON THE SITE PLAN INCLUDING THE HOURS OF OPERATION TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE ADVERSE IMPACTS POI POTENTIALLY TO SHOWERS THEIR WERE UNDER CHAPTER 14. SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THAT YOU HAVE YOU HAVE TO BASE YOUR EVIDENCE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE TENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD THAT SUPPORTS WHETHER THOSE HOURS OF OPERATIONS COULD BE CHANGED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ. >> I DO WANT TO SAIL ONE THING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL GET BACK TO YOU. >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE CONSIDER A BUSINESS'S MONETARY CONCERNS WHEN LOOKING AT THIS REZONING? >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SO -- SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. SO THERE ARE CRITERIA IN THE CODE FOR CONSIDERATION OF SPECIAL USE PERMITS AND ALCOHOL SPECIAL USE PERMITS. THEY ARE OUTLINED IN YOUR REPORT. GENERAL STANDARDS THAT DEAL WITH COMPATIBILITY AND IMPACT ONLY SURROUNDING AREAS AND SPECIFIC STANDARDS FOR THERE ARE PARTICULAR USE. SOME I WOULD -- YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD FOLLOW THOSE STANDARDS AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THOSE STANDARDS ARE MET IN REACHING YOUR DECISION. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. PORTER? OKAY. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: IN THE -- IN THE E-MAILS WE RECEIVED THAT ARE IN THE QUASI JUDICIAL PART OF THE RECORD. ONE OF THE E-MAILS ASKED A QUESTION, IF THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A RESTAURANT TO PRESENT FOOD. THAT THAT -- IS THE RESTAURANT REQUIRED FOR OFFER FOOD UNTIL THE -- UNTIL UNTIL THINK CLOSE? IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO SERVE ALCOHOL UNTIL 2 A.M. REQUIRED TO SERVE FOOD UNTIL 2 A.M. OR AVERAGE OF THE TIME THEY ARE OPENED. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ. I BELIEVE THAT IS ADDRESSED ON THE SITE PLAN. I BELIEVE THAT THE LIGHT NOTE ON-SITE PLAN REQUIRES THAT -- SORRY, MY GLASSES. ESTABLISHMENT MAINTAIN WITH A FULL KITCHEN, COMMERCIAL GRADE BURNER, OVENS AND REFRIGERATOR UNITS OF SUFFICIENT SIZE TO ACCOMMODATE THE OCCUPANCY CONTENT OF THE ESTABLISHMENT. SO THEY ARE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN A FULL KITCHEN AND BE OPEN AND ABLE TO SELL FOOD DURING THEIR OPERATING HOURS. >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. MR. PORTER. >> THE ONLY COMMENT I WILL MAKE IN RESPONSE TO -- COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA MADE A COMMENT IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION WHY HAVING SECURITY. AND I WILL BOWL TO COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA'S EXPERTISE ON RESTAURANTS. I STILL MISS CAFE PEPE. IF YOU RECALL, THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT SECURITY BECAUSE IT WAS YBOR. THAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE TO ADDRESS PROACTIVELY ANY KIND OF POTENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS. SOME THAT IS WHY IT WAS THERE AGAIN LOCATION AND GIVEN THE EXPRESSED CONCERNS. AND WITH THAT, I WILL REST AND ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL. I WILL SUBMIT THESE THAT I PRESENTED INTO THE RECORD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE. >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO PONTIFICATE ABOUT THIS FOR A SECOND. WHAT HI HEARD WAS IN THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE SUBMITTEDED THIS EVENING. A LOT OF THAT WAS THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING. FORWARD FACING ON 67th AVENUE AND BUILDING ITSELF SIGNIFICANTLY OFFSET FROM 7th AVENUE AWAY FROM THE ABUTTING PROPERTIES AS IT WAS POINTED OUT HEAVILY INDUSTRIAL USES. I THINK THERE IS A PUBLIC INTEREST IN ONE, BECAUSE IT IS A HISTORIC BUILDING AND THAT THERE IS COMMERCIAL VIABILITY IN THE AREA AND SOMETHING THERE THAT CAN WORK AND PROVIDE JOBS AND EMPLOYMENT AS WELL AS THE ENTERTAINMENT THAT IS PARTICIPANT OF IT. ALSO IN THE EVIDENCE -- NO EVIDENCE TO TUTTINGIN SUGGEST IN THE SEVEN MONTH THAT OPENED THAT ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAD COME OUT IN PREVIOUS TESTIMONY AND PREVIOUS HEARINGS AND EVEN TONIGHT DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION ABOUT THE WHAT IFs. SO NO COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT NITROGEN OF THOSE WHAT IFs CAME TRUE. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT SUGGESTED THAT THEY HAVE BEEN INCREASE IN THE DECIBEL LEVELS THAT WOULD WOULD BE UNLAWFUL. TRASH ISSUES. VAGRANCY ISSUES. ANYTHING THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT DURING THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY THIS TIME OR LAST TIME WE HEARD THIS. THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY SING -- I THINK IT WAS THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SUNDAY -- THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY IS NOT THAT UNREASONABLE CONSIDERING -- WE DO HAVE CODE ACTION -- THERE ARE CODE ACTIONS HAPPENING AROUND THE CITY FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT DOING WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GOING THEIR ALCOHOL SALES AND ISSUES AND WE HAVE CLOSED DOWN BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IF THEY ARE NOT GOOD PLAYERS. IS IT EASY TO DO? NOT BASE ON MY OBSERVATIONS, BUT IT CAN BE DONE. THAT BEING SAILED I THINK THAT THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE PRESENTED THIS EVENING ONLY INLAND KAPTS ONE DIRECTION WHICH IS APPROVAL OF THE HOURS. HAVEN'T HEARD ANY COMPREHENSIVE TENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS. BECAUSE YBOR HAS BAD REPUTATION BASED ONLY BAD PLAYERS IN OTHER AREAS OF TOWN. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PAINT THE BRUSH OF A BAD PLAYER OF SOMEBODY TRYING TO MAKE A BUSINESS, PROVIDE JOBS AND EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN THIS AREA. THAT'S IT. MRMS SHELBY? E ALMOST SHELBY? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I DISAGREE. JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE WELL FOR NOW. REMEMBER, THIS IS NOT THIS ESTABLISHMENT. IT IS THE PROPERTY. AND -- AND I MEAN, LOOKING AT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE GENERAL -- THE GENERAL STANDARDS HERE. THE USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE PUBLIC OF NECESSITY. I DON'T SEE THAT. WHAT IS AROUND IS CLOSE AGENT MIDNIGHT. CLOSING AT 11:00. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING HAVEN'T HAPPENED DOESN'T MEAN -- F THIS GOING TO HAPPEN, PEOPLE WILL KEEP COMING US TO EVERY TIME. IF THEY REALLY WANTED WITH IT, THEY WOULD COME TO WITH US MONTHLY FOOD SALES SHOWING THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. IF THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU REALLY WANTED. WOULD YOU HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WORKED AT THAT TIME. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT THEY THOUGHT, OH, WE ARE NOT MAKING MONEY. WE HAVE TO -- WE HAVE TO APPLY AGAIN. I JUST DIDN'T HEAR ANY REASON TO EXPAND HOURS. TO ME, THEY DIDN'T GIVE ANY COMPREHENSIVE TENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AS TO WHY THE HOURS TO EX-AND IT, EXCEPT FOR WE ARE NOT MAKING ENOUGH MONEY. THAT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I RESPOND? >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THAT THE FACT THAT A BUSINESS OWNER -- BUSINESS GOES INTO BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY. AND TO IT BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN A BUSINESS AND TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN EMPLOYMENT AND SUSTAIN THE -- YOU KNOW, QUITE FRANKLY, PART OF THAT IS -- IT IS THE CHARM OF YBOR CITY AS HAVING DIFFERENT TYPES OF DIFFICULT VERSE TEES OF BOTH PEOPLING AND ENTERTAINMENT FACILITIES. SO WHAT I DON'T -- I DON'T THINK IT IS A BAD THING THAT A BUSINESS COMES IN AND SAYS I CAN'T MAKE MONEY UNDER THESE CONDITIONS. I NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE COMPETITIVEWATCH SIMILAR TIMES THIS OF FACILITIES TO BE COMPETITIVE. THE SURROUNDING -- WHEN YOU LOOK -- AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT EVIDENCE THAT WAS PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT OF THIS HISTORIC BUILDING FACING 7th AVENUE WITH THE GUY BEGAN PARTICULAR SEA OF ASPHALT TO ITS WEST AND ENORMOUS EMPTY PARCEL BEHIND IT AND THEN BEHIND THAT EVEN ON 8th WAS BOARDED-UP PIECE OF PROPERTY AN ANYTHING ELSE AND A RESTAURANT TO ITS EAST. AND THEN -- >>LYNN HURTAK: WOULD YOU LIKE MAKE A SNOW. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, I AM JUST -- IS IT JUST DISCUSSION. I AM DISCUSSING THIS NOW. MY OBSERVATIONS OF WHAT THE TESTIMONY WAS. IMLEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ADD IN A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS. I ASKED THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS THAT IT WAS A -- AN AD FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT THAT -- THAT LOOKS LIKE IT IS FLAGRANTLY VIOLATING THE -- THE SPIRIT AND THE SITE PLAN BY SAYING WE CLOSE WHENEVER THE PARTY STOPS. AND MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ SAID THAT IS COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. AND WE ALSO LEARNED THEY ARE REQUIRED TO SERVE FOOD UNTIL WHENEVER THEY CLOSE BUT CHARGING A COVER CHARGE AT SOME POINT AND AS POINTED OUT RESTAURANTS DON'T CHARGE COVER CHARGES. AS WAS ALSO SAID THE FACT THAT THEY ARE NOT MAKING MONEY IS NOT -- NOT THE -- IS NOT NECESSARILY RELEVANT. THE -- IT IS -- IT -- IT WAS -- IT WAS APPROVED ESSENTIALLY AS A RESTAURANT, AND IT IS -- IT WANTS TO TURN INTO A NIGHT CLUB. AND THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS PRESENTED IS THAT THEY ARE ALREADY ACTING LIKE A NIGHT CLUB NOT THE SPIRIT OF THE APPROVAL GIVEN THEM. CLEAN CLENDENIN OKAY, WHAT IS THE WILL OF COUNCIL. WHO WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION? COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE WILL SEE IF YOU GUYS WANT TO HELP ME OUT WITH STATEMENTS OF FACT. I MOVE TO DENY AB 2-25-07 APPROVING A SPECIAL USE ALCOHOL PERMIT FOR ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES UNTIL A.M. -- OR TO CHANGE THE HOURS 2 A.M. BECAUSE THE APPLICANT PROVIDED NO COMPETENT OR SUBSTANTIAL PAL EVIDENCE THAT IT WAS -- THAT ANYTHING HAS CHANGED QUITE FRANKLY. THE USE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH CONTIGUOUS AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. I MEAN IT IS RIGHT NOW. CLOSES AT 12:00 LIKE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES DO. AND BY THIS, THERE IS A PRECEDENT -- THE PREVIOUS RESTAURANTS AND FACILITIES IN THE AREA ARE THE PRECEDENT FOR THE COMPATIBLE USE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. THERE ARE NOT BARS IN THE SURROUND AREA OR NIGHT CLUCKS, RATHER, IT IS A RESTAURANT AREA. I BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD STAY -- HIGH PRESSURE THAT IT SHOULD STAY THE WAY IT IS, WHICH IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I ASK THE MAKER OF THE MOTION. ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE GENERAL STANDARDS IN 27-1279? >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, ANY OTHER FINDS -- IF I CAN REFERENCE BACK -- THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. >>LYNN HURTAK: ABSOLUTELY, THE COMPREHENSIVE TENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE PROVIDED IN THE RECORD BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT THEY ARE TREATING THIS AS BAR AND NOT LIKE A RESTAURANT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN HURTAK. A SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: NO. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA AND CLENDENIN VOTING NO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. OKAY, WE ARE MOVING ON TO THE LAST ITEM. NUMBER FIVE. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: LEO DEBARDELEBEN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, AB 2-25-11. PROPERTY 2301 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE. PROPERTY OWNER IS SANMARTEN LLC AND THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED TODAY BY MR. TED BOSKENO. THIS APPLICATION HAS APPROVAL FOR ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALE WITH LARGE VENUE FOR BEER AND WINE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION. THIS REQUEST WILL ADD A SECOND SALES LOCATION TO THE SITE. IF APPROVED, THIS REQUEST WILL ADD 20646 SQUARE FEET TO THE INDOOR-ONLY SALES AREA BRINGING THE TOTAL TO 8586 SQUARE FEET FOR THE ENTIRE SITE. AND I WILL POINT THAT OUT WHEN I GO OVER THE SITE PLAN. THE PROPOSED HOURS FOR AB SALES ARE MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY UNTIL 2 A.M. CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT APPROVAL. THEY ARE NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THE HOURS. TOTAL OF 1949 PARKING SPACES AND 32 SPACES ARE REQUIRED. AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR -- THEY HAD A PREVIOUS PARKING WAIVER. AND THERE ARE ASKING FOR A PARKING WAIVER TO BE APPROVED WITH THIS APPLICATION. THE AREA PHOTO. AERIAL PHOTO OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SITE IS OUTLINED IN RED. THIS PROPERTY IS BETWEEN WEST PALMETTO STREET AND WEST CHERRY STREET ON THE NORTH ALBANY AVENUE. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A MIXTURE OF USES WITH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AND SOME -- SOME MORE INTENSIVE USES SCATTERED THROUGHOUT. THERE IS REALLY NO PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT THERE. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT. WE HAVE -- THIS SITE PLAN WAS A LITTLE HARDER TO READ. SO WE BOLD THE SOME OF THE -- SOME OF THE AREAS TO GIVE YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW FAR THIS SITE WORKS. THIS IS ONE PROPERTY HERE. THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS ON THE SITE. THIS BUILDING HERE AND THE OUTLINE OF THIS WHOLE THING HERE IS A CONVERTED CIGAR FACTORY. THIS IS A WAREHOUSE THAT THE APPLICANT USES CURRENTLY FOR MANUFACTURING AND BOTTLING OF WINE. THIS REQUEST IS ASKING TO ADD THIS AREA THAT IS OUTLINED IN BLUE AS A WINE TASTING BAR. AND THIS IS THE AREA RIGHT HERE THAT IS ALREADY APPROVED AS A BA BAR. THIS IS NORTH ALBANY HERE AND WEST PALMETTO WITH WEST SHERRY HERE. THIS IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION OF PROPERTY. BUILDING ONE HERE FOR CONTEXT AND BUILDING TWO IS OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT. THIS IS A ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE SOUTH ELEVATION. WEST CHERRY STREET. THIS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET THAT PHOTO. YOU CAN SEE THE RESIDENTIAL USE, THE RESIDENTIAL PATTERN THERE. THIS IS ALSO ON EAST CHERRY STREET FACING EAST. YOU CAN SEE BUILDING NUMBER TWO HERE AND A LITTLE PARTICIPANT OF BUILDING NUMBER ONE. THERE IS SOME COMMERCIAL ALONG THAT CORRIDOR AS WELL. THIS IS FACING EAST FROM THE CORNER OF NORTH ALBANY AND WEAPONS CHERRY STREET. THIS IS FACING SOUTH ON NORTH ALBANY. THIS IS ANOTHER PHOTO FACING SOUTH. THIS WILL BE WEST CHERRY STREET HERE. OUR SITE WILL BE OVER TO THE LEFT. THIS IS FACING WEST ON WEST CHERRY STREET AND NORTH ALBANY. THIS IS A SITE ELEVATION OF THE -- THE WEST ELEVATION OF SITE. ANOTHER KNOW TOE OF THE WEST ELEVATION. YOU CAN SEE WEST 8th AVENUE IS HERE AND NORTH ALBANY. THIS IS THE WAREHOUSE BUILDING -- BUILDING NUMBER TWO. OF THIS IS FACING NORTH FROM THE CORNER OF WEST PALMETTO AND NORTH ALBANY. A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES IN THAT IMMEDIATE VICINITY. THIS IS WEST PALMETTO HERE. THIS IS A VIEW FACING SOUTH. YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING HERE AND THE BUILDING NUMBER TWO. ANOTHER PHOTO OF THAT KIND OF FACING SOUTHEAST. THIS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT -- THE BACK PART OF THE WAREHOUSE BUILDING. SO YOU CAN SEE THE RESIDENTIAL USE THERE IS. AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL ABUTTING USE AND FAIRING EAST OF WEST PALMETTO. THEY TRANSPORTATION FINDS IS INAPPLICABLE BASED ON THE SITE PLAN. MINOR SITE PLANS ARE REQUESTED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING IF IT IS AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE PARKING WAIVER REDUCTION SOMETHING IN. >>. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: THE PARKING WAIVER -- -- LET ME GET THE STAFF REPORT. 139 REQUIRED TO 32. THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE ON THE SITE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, THANK YOU. CLEAN CLENDENIN ANY QUESTIONS AS SOON AS IS THERE AN APPLICANT? >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS TOSCANO. I GO BY TED AS WELL TO MAKE IT EASIER ON EVERYBODY. I HAVE A POWERPOINT AND I WOULD LIKE TO CONNECT HERE AND SHOW YOU THAT TO YOU GUYS. OKAY. SOME AGAIN, FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO START BY SAYING THAT I AM HONORED THAT MY FAMILY GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOMMEND THEM IN THIS PROJECT HERE. IT IS -- HOPEFULLY I CAN MAKE THEM PROUD TODAY. THIS IS A FAMILY BUSINESS. SO WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS, WE HAVE BEEN RESTORING THE CIGAR FACTORY. >>LYNN HURTAK: ALL WE HAVE SEA GREEN SCREEN. >> I SEE IT THROUGH HERE. >> WE WILL HELP YOU WITH THE CLICKER RIGHT HERE. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. YOU GUYS SEE IT OR JUST GREEN FOR YOU. IT IS UP THERE? OKAY, COOL. WE -- MY FAMILY AND I HAVE BEEN RESTORING THEAL VALUE REZ CIGAR FACTORY NOW FOR FOUR YEARS. A BIG ENDEAVOR. IT'S A BIG VERY HUMBLING PROJECT FOR US. BUT WE ARE VERY FRAUD TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. SO A QUICK BACKGROUND ON T THE PENDEZ ALVAREZ CIGAR FACTORY. USED TO BE ONE OF THE LARGEST CIGAR MANUFACTURERS IN THE WORLD BACK IN ITS HEYDAYS. THEIR STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY IN WEST TAMPA, ONE OF THE EARLIEST FACILITIES IN WEAPONS TAMPA. NOT A LOT OF INFORMATION, UNFORTUNATELY, ON THIS PROPERTY IN THE GENERIC GOOGLE SEARCHES. MY FATHER AND I SPENT QUITE SOME TIME IN THE USF HISTORICAL A CHIEFLS TO F-- A CHIEFLS TO FIN A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION. THE CLOCK TOWER WAS THE TALLEST CLOCK TOWER BUILT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN 190. THIS PROPERTY IS NOT ONLY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, TO WEAPONS TAMPA, BUT ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA. GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON US BECAUSE WE ARE A NEW FAMILY TO -- TO THIS CITY. MY FAMILY MOVED HERE FROM NAPLES, ITALY IN 2004. SO 21 YEARS AGO. I WAS JUST 11 WHEN I CAME HERE. WE HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO WHERE WHEN I GO BACK TO ITALY, I AM CALLED THE AMERICAN. WHEN I'M HERE, I'M CALLED THE ITALIAN. SO I AM TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO FINALLY CALL HOME AND I THINK WEST TAMPA IN ITS PLACE. MY FAMILY AND I FOUNDED WINE STREAM OVER A DECADE AGO NOW. WE HAVE BEEN IN THE HOSPITALITY AND WINE INDUSTRY FOR A COUPLE OF GENERATIONS AN BRING A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE, PASSION AND A LOT OF THE HARD WORK. SOME OF VENUES THAT CARRY OUR PRODUCTS ARE WINE. SOME OF THE FAMOUS LOCAL SPOTS HIKE FORBICHE, CAPPY'S PIZZA TO YEOMAN'S TO THE HARD ROCK, UNIVERSAL STUDIO AND TRAIN WOODS AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT NOW WE ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST WINERIES IN THE EAST COAST OF THE UNITED STATES. ALL RIGHT, SORE WHAT HAVE WE BEEN UP TO SINCE 2021? WELL, A LOT OF WORK AS YOU CAN SEE. THESE PICTURES ARE TAKEN FROM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISAL WEB SITE. SEE WHAT THE PROLOOKED LIKE PRI WHAT A SHAME. THIS IS A MAGNIFICENT FACILITY. BEAUTIFUL HISTORIC BUILDING AND ULTIMATELY ABANDONED. AN EYESORE TO THE COMMUNITY THERE. WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY. AND WE WILL SHOW ALSO SOME MORE PICTURE THERE IS. REALLY WORKING AND TAKE THING PROJECT PHASES BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE ARE A FAMILY BUSINESS. AND IT TAKES TIME TO DO A PROJECT THE RIGHT WAY. THAT IS THE IMPORTANT KEY HERE. HERE IS SOME MORE PICTURES BEFORE AND AFTER OF THIS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE OUT THERE. THESE ARE SOME OF THE INSIDE PICTURES. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE -- THAT THE CLOCK -- THE TOP OF THE CLOCK TOWER THERE WITH A BEAUTIFUL BELL. AND THOSE SPAY MAZING FOUR CLOCK DIALS IN THERE WALLS COMPLETELY ROTTEN AND EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. AND WE ARE JUST BRINGING IT BACK TO LIFE. STRENGTHEN IT AGAIN NOT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT FOR HUNDREDS OF MORE YEARS TO COME. WITH THAT SAID, AGAIN, IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF ECONOMIC POWERS TO DO THIS THING THE ULTRAVIOLET WAY. CAN WE DEMOLISH THE INTERIOR OF IT AND GO STRAIGHT CONCRETE AND MAKE EVERYONE ANSWER AT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT? YES. IS THAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. WE ARE AN ITALIAN FAMILIAR LEGAL. ESPECIALLY UNDERSTAND HISTORY. WE UNDERSTAND CULTURE. WE THINK WE NEED TO PRESERVE AND GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME AND SEE THE BEAUTIFUL BUILDING THAT THIS PROPERTY REALLY IS. THIS IS A SNEAK PEEK -- I AM NOT ALLOWED TO SHOW THIS. MY PARENTS ARE PROBABLY YELLING AT ME ON THEIR TV RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THIS IS A WOOD FIRE PIZZA OVEN. WE WILL HAVE A FOOD COMPONENT ON THE HISTORIC SIDE. AND THAT RIGHT THERE ON THE LEFT IS AN ORIGINAL CIGAR LABOR OF CIGAR COMPANY, ONE FIRST IN 1908 -- 1909 WHEN THE BUILDING FIRST RELEASED AND REP POLICE THE CAPED IT WITH THE LABEL ON THE WOOD FIRED PIZZA OVEN. A DIFFERENT ROUTE WITH A MOSAIC ITALIAN LOOK LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES, SURE. BUT WITH A IT IS FAIR TO THIS BUILDING AND THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY, ABSOLUTELY NOT. A SNEAK PEEK AS TO THE ATTENTION OF DEFENSE TAIL TO CULTURE AND WEAPONS TAMPA HISTORY FOR US. THIS IS A -- ALSO ANOTHER SNEAK PEEK. THE VIDEO AND RENDERING OF WHAT THIS CIGAR FACTORY FIRST FLOOR IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. HE WONDER IF IT IS GOING TO GO. JUST TAKE COUPLE OF MINUTES HERE, BUT THIS IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE. THAT IS THE ORIGINAL FLOORING THERE THAT WE ARE RESTORING. STAIRCASE. AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE YOU KNEW THE LINE LOUNGE OF THE CIGAR FACTORY. AGAIN, I AM BRINGING THIS JUST TO SHOW YOU GUY GUYS THAT WE H BEEN WORKING TOWARD TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE CORRECT VISION THAT WILL SHOWOCCASION HISTORIC RELEVANCE AND A NEW AND LIVELY ACTIVITY IN THIS BUILDING TO GIVE IF BACK SOME GOOD LIFE FOCUSSING ON POSTINDUSTRIAL FURNITURE. RIGHT THERE IS ONE OF THE CLOCK DIALS THAT WE WILL BE DISPLAYING. ORIGINAL CLOCK TILES OF THE BAR AND PLAYING HOMAGE TO THE CLOCK TOWER -- THE TALLEST CLOCK TOWER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHEN IT WAS BELT. A SECOND ENTRANCE AND I THINK I CAN SKIP ON OVER. WHAT ARE WE ASKING FOR. WESTERN ALREADY APPROVED FOR A WINE LOUNGE AND APPROVED FOR THE PARKING REDUCTION; HOWEVER, BECAUSE THIS PROJECT IS TAKING QUITE SOME TIME TO DO THIS PROPERLY, WE DECIDED TO START ALLOCATING SMALL PART OF OUR WINE AND FACTORY SPACE OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. WHAT IS THIS GOING TO DO? GOING TO DO A COUPLE OF VERY IMPORTANT THINGS. NUMBER ONE, START DRAWING ATTRACTION TO WEST TAMPA. START BRINGING PEOPLE TO THIS SIDE OF TOWN. RIGHT NOW THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD. IF YOU DON'T LIVE HERE, YOU PROBABLY NEVER HAVE BEEN TO WEST TAMPA. LYING MY FAMILY AND I NEVER DID UNTIL SEEING THIS PROPERTY. WE WANT TO GIVE FOLKS A REASON. BY ADDING THIS EXTRA WINE TASTING SPOT IN OUR FACILITY WHICH WE WILL SEE IN JUST A MINUTE, WE REQUIRED MORE PARKING SPACES. WHAT YOU REALLY DIDN'T AT THE BEGINNING PHASE. OUR GOAL WAS TO USE THE WAREHOUSE SPACE AS MANUFACTURING, BUT THINGS EVOLVE. PROJECTS EVOLVE, AND DESPERATE LEAVE NEEDING THAT CONNECTION TO CONSUMER AND ALSO STARTING TO BRING THAT ATTRACTION OVER TO TAMPA AND CREATE A BUZZ FOR WHAT IS TO COME. WE ARE LOOKING FOR 78% PARKING REDUCTION. AND WE HAVE 16 BICYCLE SPACES. I DON'T KNOW HOW FAMILIAR YOU ARE -- I AM SURE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE NEW RIVERWALK EXTENSION TO WEST TAMPA. ACTUALLY COMES DOWN AND ENDS AT PALMETTO WHICH IS 1,000 FEET FROM OUR FACILITY. SO FOLKS WILL BE ABLE TO DRIVE OVER WITH THEIR BIKES. AND WE HAVE PLENTY OF SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. ANOTHER REALLY IMPORTANT POINT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE HERE BEFORE I MOVED ON IS WE ARE A WINERY. AND WE ARE GOING TO BE A WINE LOUNGE. AND TIME ARE GOING TO DRINK. THE MORE PARKING WE GIVE THEM, THE MORE ABILITY WE GIVE OF FOLKS TO DRIVE THEM 70s TO OUR FACILITY. WE DON'T WANT THAT. WE DON'T WANT THAT. WE DON'T WANT THEM TO HURT THEM 70s OR THE COMMUNITY. SO IT GOES AGAINST BUSINESS 101 TO LIMIT PARKING FOR LIKE US, BUT WE ARE HEAPER TO SAY, HEY, LOOK, PARKING LOT THERE GETS FULL VERY QUICKLY SO UBER, RIDE YOUR BIKES. FIND ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO COME US TO VERSUS DRIVE YOURSELF AND POSSIBLY BE A DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY. SO WHAT IS OUR MANUFACTURING SPACE LOOK LIKE INCOME IS THAT'S IT. A WINERY, FULL-SCALE WINERY. THE ONLY THING WE DON'T DO, WE DON'T HAVE VINEYARDS. THOSE REZ IN FROM ITALY. WE IMPORT OUR WINE FULLY FINISH FROM ITALY. PUT IT IN OUR SELLER AND OUR TANKS AND PRODUCE THE WINE KEGS. WE HAVE WINE BARRELS AS WELL. THAT RIGHT THERE, THAT SPACE THAT YOU SEE IS THAT OPEN SPACE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE FOLKS WHEN WE ARE DONE WITH OUR MANUFACTURING SPACE, WE LIKE TO BRING THEM IN AND GET CONNECTED WITH THE COMPANY, GET CONNECTED WITH OUR PRODUCT. PRODUCT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ENJOYING FOR A VERY LONG TIME, MAY I ADD. AND, AGAIN, BRING THAT MOVEMENT INTO WEST TAMPA AS WELL. PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS. IT IS LATE. I KNOW YOU GUYS WANT TO GO HOME AS MUCH AS I DO, BUT WEST TAMPA WAS A BEAUTIFUL TOWN BACK IN ITS HEYDAY, ITS OWN CITY. AND HAS BEAUTIFUL STRUCTURE THERE IS, BEAUTIFUL HISTORICAL STRUCTURE. MOST FOLKS HAVE NEVER SEEN. I THINK IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE GET OPEN AND START BRINGING FOLKS OVER TO OUR SIDE OF TOWN. IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET IT DONE WITH THE WINE LOUNGE AND CIGAR FACTORY, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC. GIVEN THE COMPLEXITY OF SUCH A PROJECT WE NEED TO MAKE A QUICK AND SMALL SHIFT TO THE WINERY SIDE, STILL BRING PEOPLE IN AND STILL WORK SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE RECONSTRUCTION AS YOU SAW IN THE EARLIER PICTURES. I AM GOING TO LEAVE THIS. BUT, AGAIN, HOPEFULLY, AGAIN, I HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB TO EXPLAIN MYSELF. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU NAY HAVE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I LOVE EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID THAT WEST TAMPA IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE -- YOU SAID IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE. YOU KNOW, I -- I OFTEN CALLED OUR CIGAR FACTORIES WEST TAMPA, YBOR CITY, WHAT IS LEFT IN PALMETTO BEACH. THOSE ARE -- THOSE ARE OUR CASTLES, YOU KNOW. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER PLACES THAT HAVE THESE -- THAT HAVE THESE TYPE OF STRUCTURES BECAUSE WE WERE THE CIGAR MANUFACTURING CAPITAL OF THE WORLD AT ONE TIME. AND WE STILL -- CIGARS ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND FOUNDATION AND EVERYTHING. NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL BE IN SUPPORT OR NOT. THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN WEST TAMPA, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, I REMEMBER ASKING MY GRAND MOTHER 30 YEARS AGO -- 30 WEEKS AGO I WAS 10 1RR 1, 12 YEARS OLD. SAID WHY DON'T YOU BUY ONE OF THESE CIGAR FACTORIES AND THERM 200,000. AND SHE SAID, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THIS. MASSIVE SPACES OR WAREHOUSES ESSENTIALLY. NOT EASY AS THE CIGAR AGENCY CHANGED INTO THE CIGARETTES AND TAMPA CHANGED AND EVERYTHING. THESE FACTORIES SHUT DOWN. THIS WAS THE HEART AND SOUL OF OUR LOCAL ECONOMY. AGAIN, EMPTY SPACE, WHAT DO YOU FILL THEM IN WITH. OFFICE SPACE. DO YOU DO HOUSING. DO YOU PUNT A HOTEL? THIS CONCEPT IS UNIQUE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHO WOULD THINK, WINE, YOU KNOW, A WINE LOUNGE OR WINE MANUFACTURING. BUT NOT ONLY THAT, YOU TALK ABOUT YOU ARE ITALIAN. THE NAME GUIDO, YOU KNOW. BUT WE DEMOLISH SO MUCH OF OUR HISTORY IN THIS COUNTRY. YOU GO TO EUROPE, YOU WILL SEE A BUILDING 00 TO 400 AND SOMEONE IS LIVING IN IT BECAUSE THEY MODERNIZE IT AND LIVING. WHATEVER IT IS. YOU ARE TAKING AN ORIGINAL STRUCTURE FROM 1908. I DON'T KNOW FINANCE THAT IS THE MANUFACTURING DATE FOR THE BUILDING, AND YOU ARE NOT FILLING IT WITH CONCRETE. YOU SAID SOMETHING IMPORTANT. WE COULD MAKE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAPPY AND DO THIS AND MODERNIZE IT, BUT YOU ARE NOT. YOU ARE MAIN TAKING THE HISTORIC CHARACTER BECAUSE YOU ARE IN HISTORIC WEST TAMPA HERE. NOT JUST YBOR CITY, THERE IS HISTORIC WEST TAMPA AND SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STRUCTURES, BUT YOU ARE DOING IT RIGHT. WHAT I SAW IN THE RENDERINGS AND THE VIDEO THAT YOU SAW. WHAT A BEAUTIFUL RESTORATION. NOT JUST THE WOOD FLOORS BUT THE DETAILS ON THE WALL, DETAILS ON THE CLOCK TOWER. NEWMAN FACTORY IS NOT FAR FROM HERE AND THEY WILL CALL I IN EL VELO. AND THE WORKERS AND RESIDENTS WILL LOOK AT IT, THE WORKERS AND EVERYTHING TO RECEIVE WHAT TIME IT WAS. SO THE IMPORTANT OF THE -- THE SYMBOLISM OF THE CLOCK TOWER IN YBOR CITY BUT TOUGH HERE IN WEST TAMPA. THIS BEING THE TALLEST AT THE TIME IN THERE. THERE IS JUST SO MANY SPECIAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS BUILDING. AND I THINK WHAT YOU ARE DOING -- WHAT YOUR FAMILY IS DOING IS WONDERFUL IN EMBRACING AND RESURRECTING AND PRESERVING THE HISTORY OF WEST TAMPA. AND SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF. YOU TALKED ABOUT -- YOU KNOW, I ASKED ABOUT PARKING. 78% REDUCTION IN PARKING .WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE THE CAR? WHEN THIS FACTORY WAS OPERATIONAL, PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE CARS. WE HAD A STREETCAR. BUT PEOPLE LIVED IN THE NABBED. THEY WALKED OVER. HAD THE SHOTGUN HOUSES, CIGAR WORKERS, WHATEVER. SOME OF THE WEAPONS PEOPLE -- YOU THINK THEY ARE JUST CIGAR ROLLER. MOST EDGE THE CAPED PEOPLE WERE THE CIGAR ROLLERS. EL ELECTOL A HE HAD TO THEM. SOME THE SMARTEST PEOPLE I KNEW. THEY PASSED AWAY. I MET CIGAR WORKERS FROM BACK THEN. MOST EDGE THE CAPED THERE WERE THE CIGAR WORKERS. IMPORTANT OF THESE STRUCTURES TO WEST TAMPA HISTORY. GOING BACK TO THE PARKING REDUCTION AND THE EXTENSION OF THE RIVER WALK. I HOPE THAT IT CONTINUES AND MOVES FORWARD. A VERY EXPENSIVE PROJECT. THE FACT THAT YOU CAN -- 1,000 FEET. PEOPLE CAN RIDE THEIR BIKE AND WALK. PEOPLE LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD -- HE KNOW A LOT PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ON THIS SIDE OF OR MEAN I CAN'T AND HOWARD. YOU DON'T NEED A CAR AND YOU CAN TAKE A BUS. WE FUNDED UP HERE ROUTE 1. FIGURE OUT TO GO UP. TAKE FLORIDA AVENUE AND TAKE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. WE HAVE TO STOP LOOKING AT THE AUTOMOBILE. YOU KNOW THERE IS UBER, LYFT, SO MANY WAYS REASONS YOU DON'T NEED. BECAUSE IT IS EXPENSIVE TO HAVE A CAR. BUT SOMETHING LIKE, IT IS IN THE HEART OF WEST TAMPA THAT WAS ITS OWN CITY UNTIL 100 YEARS AGO. AND THIS IS -- THIS IS -- THIS IS WHAT I THINK WE NEED. NOT SAYING OPEN WINE BARS EVERYWHERE, BUT THIS KIND OF INVESTMENT AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND PRESERVING OUR HISTORY IS WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I AGREE MEAN, IT IS LOVE LEAVE REUSE PROJECT AND APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME AND THE EFFORT AND THE MONEY TO DO THAT. DID WANT TO ASK ABOUT HOURS. SO WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS? >> OKAY. SO MY FATHER ASKED ME TO PUT THE HOURS TO THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HOURS, WHICH I THINK IS UP TO 2 A.M. SO OPEN TO 5. CLOSE AT 2 A.M. NOT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE OPEN AT 2, AND IT IS MOM THROUGH SUNDAY, IT IS BECAUSE HE WANTS TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, WE ARE COLORING ON SUNDAY. WE ARE CLOSING ON MONDAY. AND CLOSING AT 10. NOT BEING RESTRICTED WITH, HEY, WE HAVE TO BE CLOSED FOREVER MOVING FORWARD AT 10, 11, SO ON AND SO FORTH. I DO WANT TO SAYS IT ALL INSIDE. THERE IS NO OUTSIDE NOISES. AGAIN, WE ARE NOT A NIGHT CLUB BY ANY MEANS. THIS IS A WINE LOUNGE. THERE IS A LOT OF LAUGHING THAT GOES ON WITH WINE DRINKING. AND -- BUT THAT IS REALLY THE POINT OF THAT DIRECTION WAS, HEY, LET'S ASK FOR THIS. AND -- THEN WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION SAYING WE ARE GOING TO BE CLOSING AT 10, 11, WHATEVER IS APPROPRIATE. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. HAVE YOU HAD ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD? >> WE HAVE MET MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. I HAVE SOME BEHIND ME UNEXPECTEDLY. CAME HERE ALONE. A LONE WARRIOR HERE BUT THERE ARE SOME BEHIND ME. NEIGHBORHOOD IS AMAZING. I HAVE MET A LOT OF THESE FOLKS. AND I DON'T THINK WE EVER CAUSED ANY ISSUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO -- THE PARKING REDUCTION SOMETHING A FOCUS ON NOT TRYING TO GET TOO MANY CARS IN AND OUT. AND REALLY CREATING CONGESTION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT EVERYONE THAT I KNOW AND THAT I HAVE TALKED TO HAS SEEM TO BE ON BOARD WITH IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS MY FINAL QUESTION. WHAT IS IT YOUR PLAN FOR PARKING. OBVIOUSLY IT IS GREAT TO RECOMMEND UBERING. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU HEARD ME EARLIER, I AM A CYCLIST. THAT WILL BE A BIG PUSH FOR ME. I APPRECIATE YOU TALK OF BIKE PARKING AND I MIGHT, AGAIN, RECOMMEND BIKE PARKING THAT IS PROTECTED. PEOPLE WHO WILL COME TO WINE BAR ARE MOST LIKE GOING TO HAVE, LIKE, AN ELECTRIC BIKE. THOSE ARE VERY EXPENSIVE AND YOU TONIGHT WANT THEM TO GET BETTOR SUPER HOT BECAUSE OF THE BATTERIES, YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THEIR AS YOU -- AS YOU MOVE FORWARD. BUT, LIKE, YOUR PLAN FOR PARKING -- I MEAN, HOW DO YOU -- HOW DO YOU INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO NOT DROVE? >> SO, AGAIN, I THINK THE FOCUS HERE IS THE FACT THAT NOWADAYS A LOT PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO OUR SPACE, A WINE LOUNGE WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO BE DRINKING. FOLKS ARE ALREADY MOVING TOWARD, HEY, LET'S UBER. LET'S LYFT. WE CAN TO A LOT OF THINGS. YOU CAN ACTUALLY THROUGH UBER, YOU CAN OFFER UBER CREDITS FOR FOLKS COME BY. AND WE WILL DO THAT. AGAIN. OUR MAIN FOCUS IS THE MORE PARKING WE OFFER, THE MORE WE OPEN UP OUR ROADS TO DANGEROUS DRIVING. SOME BESIDES THE FACT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ON THE PROPERTY, WE LOOKED AT POSSIBLY GETTING OTHER PLOTS OF LAND AND USING THEM AS VALET AND WHATNOT. BUT I THINK THE FOCUS IS WE HAVE 32 AVAILABLE. WE ARE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND FUTURE LAND USE AROUND HERE IS ALL RESIDENTIAL, WE ARE WE LOVE. BUT IT IS GOING TO BE MORE OF OF THAT COMMUNICATION WITH THE END CONSUMER SAY WE HAVE UBER CREDITS. TAKE A UBER. WE HAVE 16 BICYCLE SPACES. I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A COVER. I AM A CYCLIST MYSELF. TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN MY BIKE AND KEEPING IT SAFE. I LOVE THAT INPUT. THAT IS THE PLAN GOING FORWARD. >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. I -- I JUST WANT TO SAY I HOPE I HEAR THIS MUCH LOVE FOR LESS PARKING WITH OTHER DEVELOPMENTS. I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT. ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS JUST BLOWN AWAY YOU WERE PESTERING ON PARKING. >>LYNN HURTAK: I NEED TO ASK FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT, YEAH, I HOPE PEOPLE BY AND LARGE -- I JUST WANTED TO KNOW. I DON'T -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE ONE QUESTION BEFORE I GET TO PUBLIC COMMENT. ARE YOU A LAND USE ATTORNEY? >> NO. TIME JUST -- ONE OF THE SONS. AND I RUN THE OPERATIONS OF THE WINERY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK YOUR FAMILY WILL BE VERY PROUD BECAUSE YOU PRESENTED AS WELL IF NOT BETTER THAN MOST OF THE LAND USE ATTORNEYS. >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU PRESENTED VERY WELL. >> THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HEARING NO OTHER QUESTIONS. ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? COME ON FORWARD AND WHEN YOU SPEAK -- FIRST, I LOST TRACK WHO CAME IN LATE. HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN. >> I DIDN'T. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND THE CLERK WILL SWEAR YOU IN. [SWEARING IN] >> YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COME UP ONE AT AT TIME AND START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOU EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ALL THREE MINUTES. >> HI GOOD AFTERNOON. JUSTIN CH ANG. I AM A LOCAL RESIDENT AND I LIVE A BLOCK AWAY. I AM SUPPORTING THE PROPOSAL. ANYTHING THAT GETS THE CLOCK TOWER MORE FEASIBLE OR RENOVATION FRIENDLY IS A GOOD THING. IN THE XHUCOMMUNITY, THERE IS PLENTY OF NOISE WITH HOWARD AND ROME. YOU CAN HEAR THE CLOCK TOWER, AND IF YOU SHALL OKAYING WITH THAT, I DON'T THINK A FEW OF EXTRA CARS WILL BE TOO BAD. SIDE STREETS ARE USUALLY COBBLED, SO THAT CUTS DOWN ON THE TRAFFIC NOISE AND SPEED. THERE HAS BEEN -- ON THE -- -- ON THE AGENDA IT SAID IT WAS FOR BEER, WEAN AND LIQUOR. I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH ANY OF THOSE, ALSO LIQUOR IN THE AREA TWRR BEER IN THE AREA. THERE IS A BAR CLOSE BY. THERE IS SOME GROCERS OR LOCAL PLACES WHERE YOU CAN BUY BEER AND LIQUOR. AND I THINK THE BEST THING FOR THE COMMUNITY IS TO GET MORE MONEY AND TRAFFIC INCH. AND GET THE RENOVATIONS DONE SO IT LOOKS LIKE A PLACE WHERE YOU DON'T LITTER. WHERE YOU DON'T DO ANY OF THE OTHER ISSUES -- YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH HIGHER ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION. AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. I AM LOOKING FORWARD ENJOYING THEIR AMENITIES WHEN IT GETS UP AND RUNNING. AND I AM FOR THIS PROPOSAL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CLARIFICATION, BEER, WINE OR LIQUOR. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: LEO DEKLE, LANDS DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU HAVE TO GO UP HERE. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: LEO DEKLE, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. THE REQUEST IS BEER AND WINE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES FOR OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST BEER AND WINE. GET TO YOUR MICROPHONE, SIR. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. DESCRIPTION AT THE HEADING STATES BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, BUT THE ORDINANCE SAYS SALE FOR THE BEER AND WINE. AND WITH MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT -- THAT THE -- THE HEAD SOMETHING INCORRECT, BUT THE ORDINANCE IS ACCURATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. START WITH YOUR NAME. >> HI, MY NAME ISLY YA ACOSTA. AND I LIVE FOUR HOUSES DOWN FROM THE FACTORY. TO MAKE A STORY SHORT, WE ARE IN TOTAL SUPPORT. TED AND HIS FAMILY ARE GREAT NEIGHBORS AND CLEANED UP THE AREA SO MUCH AND WE ARE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. NEXT. >> MY NAME IS BARBARA MESHNA AND LIVE FOUR DOORS DOWN. WHAT GREAT NEIGHBORS THEY HAVE BEEN. WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED THE CLOCK STARTING AT 8 A.M. AND IT WAS VERY LOUD. NOTHING BETWEEN MY BEDROOM AND THE CLOCK. SO CIVIL WAKING UP EVERY DAY AT 8 A.M. WE TEXTED THEM. AND THEY MOVED IT TO 9:00 FOR A WHILE. NOW IT IS VERY SOFT. LIKE I CAN HEAR IT, BUT IT DOESN'T WAKE ANYBODY UP ANYMORE SO THEY ARE VERY GOOD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 8 A.M., HALF THE DAY IS GONE. >> NOT WHEN YOU ARE RETIRED, RIGHT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ARE SPEAKING TO ONE WHO DOESN'T WAKE UP UNTIL 150. >> PEOPLE MARLENE SADALE. HE DON'T LIVE THERE. BAPTIZED AT ST. JOSEPH. MY MOTHER WITH DON'T SCHOOL IN ST. JOSEPH. I LIVE IN A HOUSE ON MAIN STREET. MY FAMILY HAS BEEN IN WEST TAMPA SINCE THE LATE 1800s. I STILL LIVE -- TWO YEARS IT WILL BE 100 YEARS THAT MY FAMILY LIVED IN THIS HOUSE WHICH ONE OF THE MAYORS OF TAMPA, O'HALLORAN LIVED IN. I HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY IN WEST TAMPA I LOVE SEEING IT BECOMING WHAT IT IS. I LOVE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO MAIN STREET. I KNOW I AM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ARMENIA. SO WE ARE NOT GETTING ALL THOSE BENEFITS. I LOVE WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH THE RIVER WALK. THESE PEOPLE -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SEEN THE BUILDING ON SPRUCE AND ARMENIA. IT IS A DISGRACE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO THAT BUILDING. THEY HAVE -- IT IS PAINTED HALF WHITE. THE WINDOWS ARE BROKEN. IT IS TERRIBLE. WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND SPENT THE TIME THAT THEY HAVE -- THEY DIDN'T JUST GO IN THERE AND OPEN IT UP. THEY HAVE SPENT THE TIME TO PUNT IT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS LIKE. AND I -- I HAVE A LOT INVESTED IN WEST TAMPA AND I AM JUST SO APPRECIATIVE OF THEM. EVEN THOUGH I AM SPANISH. BUT I -- I AM JUST -- THEIR WINE. I HAD IT AT AVERONE AGENCIES. IT IS VERY GOOD. DO YOU STILL HAVE IT THERE? >> YES, MA'AM. >> AND YOU DON'T GET A HEADACHE WITH IT. IT IS WONDERFUL. AND I HOPE YOU -- YOU GIVE THEM WHATEVER THEY NEED, BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST SUCH A BENEFIT TO WEST TAMPA AND THEY JUST BUILT COUPLE OF BLOCKS AWAY THOSE -- I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE APARTMENTS OR CONDOS. I THINK THEY ARE APARTMENTS WHICH ARE YOUNG. THOSE PEOPLE WALK. MY KIDS AND EVEN US OLD PEOPLE, WE UBER EVERYWHERE NOW. YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE GOING TO GO COME PLACE AND WE DRINK, WE UBER. MY KIDS WHO ARE IN THEIR 40s. THEY UBER. THEY RIDE THEIR BIKES -- I HAVE FRIENDS WHO RIDE THEIR BIKES, YOU KNOW, SORE IT -- IT IS JUST A BENEFIT TO HAVE THIS IN WEST TAMPA. I AM SO PROUD OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND THE TIME THEY HAVE SPENT ON IT. I MEAN IT HAS BEEN YEARS AND YEARS THAT THEY HAVE -- AND IT IS BEAUTIFUL INSIDE WHAT THEY ARE DOING, YOU KNOW. SO I APPRECIATE IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M ASSUMING BASED ON THE GLOWING REVIEWS THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE REBUTTAL. MOTION TO CLOSE? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FUN FACT, MARLENE, THE LAST SPEAKER, YOU'RE RARELY HERE. I THINK IT IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN YOU HERE. SO HER DAD WAS MARCELLO MACEDA, A MAYOR OF YBOR CITY. BUT IF YOU WATCH THE DOCUMENTARY, JFK IN TAMPA THAT LYNN DINGFELDER MADE, SHE IS THE LITTLE GIRL WITH HER DAD THAT GAVE A LITTLE DOLL TO PRESIDENT KENNEDY FOUR DAYS BEFORE HE WAS ASSASSINATED, RIGHT HERE IN TAMPA, HE WAS HERE NOVEMBER 18. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: KNEW YOU FROM A MOVIE STAR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY FAMOUS. >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, THAT'S SO NEAT TO KNOW. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. YOUR LOVE OF TAMPA HISTORY IS JUST AMAZING. BUT I WANTED TO SAY, ECHO SOMETHING THAT CHAIRMAN CLENDENIN SAID FOR THE NICE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS PRESENTING, ARE YOUR PARENTS WATCHING? >> I THINK SO. >>LUIS VIERA: THEY SHOULD BE PROUD OF YOU. DID YOU A GREAT JOB. WHEN YOU STARTED OFF AND SAID I'M DOING THIS FOR MY PARENTS, MY MOM AND DAD. THAT'S AWESOME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU TELL THE SPANIARDS AND ITALIANS BECAUSE THEY BLEED WITH THEIR HEART. >>LUIS VIERA: YOU DID A GREAT JOB. IF YOUR PARENTS ARE WATCHING, YOU DID A VERY GOOD JOB. THEY SHOULD BE REALLY PROUD OF YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. WILL GIVE IT TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE ALL ITALIAN HERE, WHY NOT? ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT, OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 2301 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-55; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>LYNN HURTAK: AND A REVISION SHEET? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO REVISION SHEET. >> [INAUDIBLE] >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT A REVISION SHEET, BUT REVISIONS ARE INCLUDED IN THE SITE PLAN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? UNANIMOUS. YOU'RE NEXT. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON AUGUST 28, 2025 AT 10 A.M. LOCATED AT OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33602. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHEN YOU GET THE OTHER BUILDING OPENED UP AND A JAZZ BAND, FULL LIQUOR LICENSE AND SELL MARTINIS, I WILL BE THERE. THAT IS THE LAST ORDER OF BUSINESS. NEW BUSINESS, COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: AFTER SO MUCH FUN, I'LL BRING UP A SERIOUS TOPIC. I'VE BEEN NOW TO SEVERAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK I SAW YOU AT ONE. >>BILL CARLSON: TWO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'VE ONLY BEEN TO ONE. >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY. BUT MOST OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO THEM, I THINK MAYBE ALL OF US HAVE BEEN TO THEM, AND YOU SEE THAT THE PUBLIC IS VERY, VERY ANGRY ABOUT THE PROPOSAL THAT WE GOT. AND THEY ARE ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO APPOINTED THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE HAVE FOUR APPOINTEES. ONE OF THEM -- I THINK ONE OF THEM IS COMING UP SOON -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU ALL TAKE IT OUTSIDE A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN HEAR? THANK YOU. >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAVE ONE POSITION COMING UP, BUT THREE, I THINK ONE WE APPOINTED AND TWO FORMER ONES. THE OTHER THING THAT'S HAPPENED AS YOU SEE TONIGHT IS THAT ALMOST WEEKLY -- YEAH, WEEKLY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF RECOMMENDS SOMETHING -- >> [INAUDIBLE] >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN. MY APOLOGIES, MR. CARLSON. DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE ITSELF? BECAUSE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THIS DOES NOT SAY AND PACKAGE SALES. THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T SAY THAT. WHAT IS THE REQUEST? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO REOPEN THE HEARING RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE STILL HERE, SIR. IF WE CAN, CAN WE REOPEN THE HEARING? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO REOPEN THE HEARING FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, THE GENTLEMAN IS STILL HERE. IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY STAFF THAT THE ORDINANCE SHOULD BE INCLUDING PACKAGE SALES. SIR, IF YOU COULD COME IN AND STATE YOUR NAME. >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: LEO DEBARDELEBEN DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. YES, SIR, THE CERTIFIED APPLICATION AND THE STAFF REPORT, THE REQUEST IS FOR LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF PREMISE FOR BEER AND WINE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE MS. JOHNSON, VELEZ. THE TITLE THAT WAS READ DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT, BUT IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING -- >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT. YES, THERE IS AN ERROR IN THE TITLE OF THE ORDINANCE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK THEN, NOW THAT THE HEARING IS REOPENED, COULD WE HAVE THE TITLE REREAD WITH THAT LINE IN THERE? WOULD THAT SUFFICE AT THIS POINT IN TIME? >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I CAN PROVIDE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: BY SECOND READING. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YES. IN THE PARENTHESES, I CAN WRITE IT IN IF YOU LIKE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE IT IN THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION. I THINK COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO HAS GOT IT. HE CAN COMBINE THE TWO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL DO IT SLOWLY. READY? I HAVE AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES, PACKAGE SALES CONSUMPTION OFF PREMISES AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 2301 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE 2022-55, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MS. VELEZ IS THAT SUFFICIENT? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITH THE REVISIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT AGAIN. CLERK, WOULD YOU READ THAT AGAIN FOR US. >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND ANNOUNCE. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON AUGUST 28, 2025, AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD CATCH WHOEVER CAUGHT THAT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE STAFF FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED? YOU DO. IT PREVENTED A PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. WE ARE GOING BACK TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >> [INAUDIBLE] >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WAS IMPORTANT. >>BILL CARLSON: ARE YOU GUYS DONE? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS SOMETHING I THOUGHT COULDN'T WAIT. THANK YOU. >>BILL CARLSON: SO YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE I'M GOING. THE PUBLIC HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS PROPOSED. THEY ARE ASKING WHY WE APPOINTED PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR THAT. AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF COMES ALMOST EVERY ITEM, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF VOTES AGAINST IT AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTES FOR IT. SO MY QUESTION IS, I CAN MAKE A MOTION -- MY QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU ALL BE OPEN TO TERMINATING ALL THE SEATS THAT WE HAVE AND HAVE EVERYBODY REAPPLY, POTENTIALLY WITH NEW APPLICANTS AND THEN HOLD A TIME THAT WE CAN APPOINT NEW MEMBERS? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS RAISED BY CITY COUNCIL IN A MOTION THAT I PROVIDED. EXCUSE ME, A MEMO I PROVIDED. THE MEMO WAS DATED MAY 22 OF 2025. THE MOTION WAS THAT MARTIN SHELBY -- IT WAS A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER AND CLENDENIN, BE REQUESTED TO PROVIDE CITY COUNCIL WITH THE NAMES OF CITY COUNCIL'S PLANNING COMMISSION APPOINTEES, THEIR TERMS, AND CITY COUNCIL'S RIGHTS IN RELATION TO THOSE AND APPOINTEES FURTHER THAT A WRITTEN REPORT, WHICH I DID, BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL ON JUNE 5th OF 2025, UNDER WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS, WHICH WAS RECEIVED AND FILED. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT REPORT, SUSPENSION OR REMOVAL OF APPOINTMENT MEMBERS IS GOVERNED BY SECTION 112.501 OF FLORIDA STATUTES. IT GOVERNS THE SUSPENSION OR REMOVAL OF APPOINTED MEMBERS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, OR AUTHORITIES, WHEN THEY ARE ENABLING LEGISLATION LACKS SPECIFIC REMOVAL PROCEDURES. FOR THE TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION, THE SPECIAL ACT CHAPTER 97-351 IS SILENT ON REMOVAL PROCESSES. NEITHER EXPLICITLY GRANTING NOR RESTRICTING THE APPOINTING AUTHORITY'S POWER TO REMOVE MEMBERS. SECTION 112.501 THEREFORE APPLIES, ALLOWING THE APPOINTING AUTHORITY, EG IN THIS CASE, CITY COUNCIL, TO SUSPEND OR REMOVE MEMBERS FOR, QUOTE, MALFEASANCE, MISFEASANCE, NEGLECT OF DUTY, HABITUAL DRUNKENNESS, INCOMPETENCE OR PERMANENT ABILITY TO PERFORM HIS OR HER OFFICIAL DUTIES PROVIDED DUE PROCESS IS FOLLOWED. COMMISSION'S BYLAWS OUTLINE DUTIES LIKE ATTENDANCE AND ETHICAL CONDUCT, SECTION 112. SPEAKING NOW. NOT READING VERBATIM. THREE CONSECUTIVE UNEXCUSED MAY SUBSEQUENT NEGLECT OF DUTY CONSISTENT WITH THE STATUTE. I CAN MAKE THAT AGAIN AVAILABLE TO YOU. BASICALLY WHAT IT SAYS IS IT CANNOT BE FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES. IT HAS TO BE FOR CAUSE. AND THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT OF THE ETHICAL CONDUCT, THE CODE OF ETHICS FOR FLORIDA STATUTES. >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT IF WE JUST WANT TO CHANGE OUR APPOINTING PROCESS AND THE TIMELINE OF IT SO WE CHANGE THE CYCLE SO THAT WE CAN APPOINT EVERYBODY AT THE SAME TIME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE NOT DOING A PUNITIVE WAY. WE'RE JUST CHANGING OUR PROCESS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I CAN LOOK INTO THAT IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE. I CANNOT MAKE ANY REPRESENTATION TONIGHT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL JUST SAY IN A WAY I'M GLAD THIS HAPPENED BECAUSE I THINK IT REALLY SAYS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS WHEN WE APPOINT PEOPLE TO BOARDS THAT WE SPEND TIME TALKING ABOUT IT AND LOOKING AT PEOPLE'S RECORDS. I THINK OUR LAST APPOINTMENT PROCESS WENT REALLY WELL. WE ENDED UP WITH SOMEONE WHO I'VE TALKED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. THEY SAID THAT MR. CRUEGLER ARRIVED HAVING RESEARCHED WAY MORE IN-DEPTH THAN HE NEEDS TO. HE'S UP ON THINGS. THAT WAS A GOOD APPOINTMENT BY US. WE HAVE ANOTHER APPOINTMENT COMING UP, I BELIEVE VERY SHORTLY. SO THAT'S HALF OF THE PEOPLE RIGHT THERE. SO EVEN IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE CAN DO, I THINK THIS BODES AS A GOOD REMINDER THAT WE PUT A LOT MORE EFFORT INTO THE PEOPLE WE CHOOSE. I'M HAPPY TO GO WITH WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY OPPOSE TAKING MR. CRUEGLER OFF. WE JUST PUT HIM ON. WE WENT THROUGH THE DEEPER PROCESS TO FIND SOMEONE WHO WE BELIEVED WOULD FIT THE ROLE. >>BILL CARLSON: UNDERLYING PROBLEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS THAT WE OFTEN DON'T FIND OUT ABOUT OPEN VACANCIES UNTIL THERE IS A SHORT LIST ALREADY. SO WHEN WE WERE ALERTED TO IT, WE CAN DO SOMETHING. I THINK THE CLERK HAS STARTED PUTTING THEM ON OUR AGENDA -- GO AHEAD. >>MARTIN SHELBY: CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. YOU WERE LEADING RIGHT TO WHERE I WANTED TO HEAD. I SPOKE WITH THE CLERK AGAIN THIS MORNING. I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL, OWN RULE 8, ADOPTED LAST YEAR, CURRENT AND UPCOMING BOARD VACANCIES SHOULD BE NOTED ON EACH AGENDA SO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND DISTRICT OFFICERS -- OFFICES CAN SEEK CANDIDATES FOR APPOINTMENT. NOW, MS. LUCAS HARRIS INFORMED ME THAT IF YOU GO ON THE BOARD AND COMMISSION'S PAGES OF THE CITY'S WEBSITE, YOU WILL SEE WHAT IS CURRENT NOW, AND SHE HAS INFORMED ME THAT SHE ANTICIPATES WORKING WITH T & I, BY THE END OF AUGUST THAT SHOULD BE APPEARING ON EVERY AGENDA SO COUNCIL WILL KNOW EXACTLY AND BE ABLE TO PLAN FOR IT IN ADVANCE AND BE ABLE TO RECRUIT PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO APPLY FOR THESE POSITIONS. >>BILL CARLSON: I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY MOTIONS RIGHT NOW. I WANTED TO THROW THE IDEA OUT THERE FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT AND IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT AGAINST THAT AT ALL. I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE A REASON WHY. YOU CAN'T JUST SAY I DON'T LIKE THEM, TAKE THEM OUT. THIS IS NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. BEING SINCERE. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOW, POLICE WHERE A MASK SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE. I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE RIGHT OR WRONG IN DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING, BUT THAT IS THE ONLY AGENCY THAT CARRIES MASKS. SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE WAY WE'RE HEADING IN THIS GOVERNMENT. WE'RE LOSING DEMOCRACY INTO SOMETHING ELSE. JUST MY OPINION. BUT WE'RE TEETERING WITH SOMETHING OTHER THAN DEMOCRACY IN THIS COUNTRY. NO MATTER WHAT PARTY IT IS, ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER, I'M NOT GOING THERE. I'M JUST SAYING WHAT I THINK. THIS IS A WAY THAT THESE THINGS START, AND THESE INDIVIDUALS WHOEVER THEY ARE ARE APPOINTED. WHENEVER THEY LEAVE, REPLACE THEM, REPLACE THEM. YOU HAVE TO FILE CHARGES WHEN YOU GO TO REMOVE SOMEBODY UNLESS YOU WANT TO GET SUED REAL BADLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THERE IS A TRUTH SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN. I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HOW WE HAVE TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE. WE MAKE THE APPOINTMENTS. EVERYTHING WE DO HAS CONSEQUENCES AS PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD AND WE SIT AS A CRA BOARD AS WELL. I DO BELIEVE THAT -- I AM JUST AS FRUSTRATED. ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT CAME OUT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION INFURIATED ME. ABOUT BASICALLY DIDN'T CARE WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL THOUGHT. I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING FROM YOUR GOVERNING AUTHORITY. I DO THINK THERE IS A MIDDLE ANSWER TO BOTH OF THIS. I THINK WE CAN GO THROUGH A PROCESS, BECAUSE WITHIN THE CRITERIA THAT MR. SHELBY GAVE US, THERE ARE CRITERIA FOR REMOVAL. I THINK SOME OF THAT IS PERFORMANCE BASED AND I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT -- I THINK THERE IS A WAY OF DOING THIS THROUGH PERFORMANCE, IF WE CHOSE TO TAKE THAT. NOW, IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT TASK. IT'S NOT EASY. SOMEBODY THAT IS ACTING VERY EGREGIOUSLY, I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS THAT SITUATION. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS ALSO WAS IN THE MEMO AND I'LL PROVIDE THIS AGAIN TO COUNCIL BY E-MAIL. IT SAYS SPECIFICALLY IN MY MEMO TO SUSPEND OR REMOVE A COMMISSION MEMBER, THE APPOINTING BODY MUST -- AND THREE BULLET POINTS -- IDENTIFY A CAUSE UNDER SECTION 112.501 OF FLORIDA STATUTES. TWO, PROVIDE WRITTEN NOTICE OF ALLEGATIONS TO THE COMMISSION MEMBER BY RESOLUTION. NUMBER THREE, PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A HEARING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ENSURING DUE PROCESS. >>BILL CARLSON: I'M GOING TO ASK MARTY PRIVATELY IF THERE IS ANOTHER PATH BECAUSE I WOULD NOT GO DOWN THAT PATH. BUT IF THERE IS A PATH WHERE WE CAN RESET THE PROCESS SOMEHOW. I'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I HAVE TO BRING THIS UP HERE BECAUSE I CAN'T TALK TO YOU ALL OUTSIDE. THE SECOND THING IS THAT IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT THE PUBLIC COMES OUT. WE KNOW THE VOTER TURNOUT IS VERY LOW. BUT IN THIS CASE, WITH THIS PROPOSAL, WE'RE SEEING HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE COME OUT AND THEY ARE VERY, VERY ANGRY ABOUT THE PROPOSAL. I THINK IN THIS CASE, WE ARE DOING THE DEMOCRATIC THING AND TRYING TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC AND MAKE SURE WE REPRESENT THE PUBLIC. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA, NEW BUSINESS? >>LYNN HURTAK: I STILL WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS. MY ONLY THING I DID WANT TO SAY IN ADDITION TO THAT IS THAT I RECENTLY WENT ON THE WEBSITE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT EMPTY POSITIONS, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. IT'S GOT TO BE FIXED. IF IT'S NOT FIXED, THEN ALL OF THIS IS MOOT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I ASK THAT BE IN THE FORM OF A MOTION BOTH WITH THE WEBSITE AND WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S AGENDA IN THE FORM OF A REQUEST OR A DIRECTION TO THE CITY CLERK TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT? AT LEAST THAT WAY IT ISN'T JUST A DISCUSSION. >>LYNN HURTAK: THE PROBLEM IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MOTION TO FIX IT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, NO. I THINK -- >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU MAKE THE MOTION YOU WANT TO HEAR? >>MARTIN SHELBY: DIRECT THE CITY CLERK AND REQUEST THE ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE THE SUPPORT SO THAT IT IS CLEAR TO CITY COUNCIL BOTH ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND IN THE AGENDA WHAT THE UPCOMING ADMINISTRATION, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE -- >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALREADY DID THAT ON THE AGENDA. >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, HE SAID THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HASN'T HAPPENED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU PUT IT INTO THE RULES, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED SINCE IT'S BEEN IN PLACE. THEY ARE IN PROCESS. I'M SAYING IF THERE'S DIRECTION BY COUNCIL, IT WILL BE LIKELY TO HAPPEN THAT MUCH SOONER. >>BILL CARLSON: I SECOND THAT MOTION. EVEN BEFORE YOU ALL GOT ON COUNCIL, THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS I WAS ON COUNCIL, WE COMPLAINED ABOUT THE SAME THING AND NOBODY DID ANYTHING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. I GOT THE NAMES RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON WISELY ASKED ABOUT THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE. WE WERE WORKING ON THIS. BUT I'M GLAD TO UPDATE COUNCIL AND ALSO DO A MOTION. LONG STORY SHORT, FOR THE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS AND THE FRAMEWORKS, WE'RE WAITING ON THE INDIVIDUALS FROM EMPOWER INCLUSION, CRIST AT USF AND BUTLER TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT TO US OR REALLY AN E-MAIL RESPONSE. DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A WRITTEN REPORT ON HOW THEY PLAN TO GO WITH THE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS. THEY ARE THE FACILITATORS AND I THINK IT'S BEST FOR THEM TO DO IT GIVEN THAT IDENTITY. SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME JURISDICTION OVER THIS, I MOTION FOR ANGELA CRIST OF USF AND DARRYL BUTLER OF EMPOWERED INCLUSION TO PROVIDE A RESPONSE BACK TO MY OFFICE THAT I CAN UPDATE CITY COUNCIL ON AT MOTION TIME ON HOW THEY PLAN TO INCLUDE THE REQUESTED ADDITIONAL MEETINGS OF THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE. THIS SHOULD BE DONE NO LATER THAN AUGUST 7. MY OFFICE BRANDON, GOD BLESS HER, HAS REACHED OUT TO THEM. THEY ARE NOT HOLDING ANYTHING UP OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. SURE IT TAKES TIME. BUT JUST SO WE CAN HAVE A RESOLUTION AND THEN I WILL UPDATE CITY COUNCIL NEXT WEEK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. SECOND FROM CARLSON. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>LUIS VIERA: DOTTY GROVER SKIPPER WHO DOES A LOT OF WORK ON HUMAN TRAFFICKING, SHE HELPED A LOT. WE PASSED A HUMAN TRAFFICKING ORDINANCE I GUESS THAT WAS IN 2018. SHE'S BEING INDUCT INTO THE FLORIDA WOMEN'S HALL OF FAME. SHE ASKED ME TO GO. I CAN'T GO FOR MANY REASONS ON THAT DATE. I WANT TO GIVE HER A COMMENDATION OFF-SITE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM VIERA, SECOND FROM MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>LUIS VIERA: LASTLY, COMMENDATION FRANK STROM, DIRECTOR OF VETERAN SERVICES IN RECOGNITION OF THE GOLD STAR MEMORIAL. I WAS ASKED BY THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY TO DO THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING STAFF REPORT FROM SEPTEMBER 25 WORKSHOP SESSION TO THE OCTOBER 30th WORKSHOP SESSION. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER TODAY. STAFF TO PRESENT THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP DRAFT DESIGN STANDARDS AND A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR LARGE FORMAT DIGITAL MEDIA FOR THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. ANY MODIFICATION TO THE ORDINANCE SHALL CONTINUE TO BE LED BY CITY STAFF WITH COLLABORATION FROM THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP. THE REASON FOR THIS IS BECAUSE THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AS MS. FEELEY SAID EARLIER, JUST GOT THE APPROVAL, SO THEY STILL NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST TO CLOSE THE LOOP, I'M STILL WORKING WITH MR. PERRY ON THE MOTION REGARDING THE CREDIT CARD FEES. THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS. I WILL HAVE THE MOTION READY AT OUR NEXT MEETING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOTHING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA? MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]