Thank you for being here to our Mesa City Council meeting May 12th, 2025. Council member Heredi is excused from this meeting, but all other council members are present. Thank you for being here. Um before we start with the invocation, I'd like to take a moment and I'll stand for a moment of silence for firefighter Mark Keller who died recently this past week. So if you do that, after which we'll have a prayer invocation by Pastor Sandy Johnson. Thank you, Pastor Johnson. Good evening, Mayor and members of the city council. Thank you for having me. I invite you to be in an attitude of prayer that is fitting to your faith tradition. Gracious and loving God, let me first say thank you on behalf of all who are gathered here today. Thank you for your many abundant blessings. Thank you for life itself, for the measure of health we need to fulfill our callings, for sustenance and for friendship. Thank you for religious freedoms that allow us to pray together today. We thank you for the ability to be involved in useful work and for the honor of bearing appropriate responsibilities. Thank you for the freedom to embrace you or the freedom to reject you. Thank you for loving us even so from your boundless and gracious nature. In the scriptures, you have said that citizens ought to obey the governing authorities since you have established those very authorities to promote peace and order and justice. Therefore, I pray for Mayor Freeman and for all the various levels of city officials and in particular for this assembled city council. I'm asking God that you would graciously grant them wisdom to govern amid the conflicting interests and issues of our times. A sense of the welfare and true needs of all your people. a keen thirst for justice and rightness, a confidence in what is good and fitting. We pray for the ability to work together in harmony even when there is honest disagreement. And we pray for personal peace in their lives and joy in their task. I pray this day for the agenda set before us. Please give us an assurance of what would please you and what would benefit those who live in and work in and around our beloved city of Mesa. And this I lift up to you. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Pastor Johnson. Will you please join me in the pledge of allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. Thank you everyone. Item two is a consent agenda. As you come forward, Mr. Christopher 4C will be removed from the consent agenda and we'll go from there. Good evening, mayor and council members. These are the items on the consent agenda. All items listed with an asterisk will be considered as a group by the city council and will be enacted with one motion. There will be no separate discussion unless a council member or assistant request in which event the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered as a separate item. Item two, approval of minutes of previous meetings is written. Item 3 A, act on liquor license application for the Shroom Room Cafe, 2860 East Mckelps Road. Item 4 A, approving contract for commercial water meter vault rehabilitations, phase 15, design bid built contract for projects at five city sites. Item 4B, approving contract for Val Vista Drive improvements, Val Vista sewer rehabilitation projects. These projects are funded in part by 2020 street bonds and MAG regional arterial road funds. Item 4 C has been removed from the consent agenda. Item 4 D, approving three-year term contract with two-year renewal options for light duty vehicle maintenance and repair services for the fleet services department. Item 4 E approving one-year term contract for insulated pool covers and storage reels for the parks, recreation, and community facilities department. Item 4F, approving use of a cooperative contract for the purchase of one street sweeper for the fleet services and transportation departments. This purchase is funded by a MAG AOT congestion and mitigation air quality grant and local street sales tax funding. Item 4G, approving contract to purchase wastewater diffuser system repairs at the Greenfield Water Reclamation Plant for the Water Resources Department. Item 4 H, approving use of a 17-month term cooperative contract with renewal options for replacement batteries, repair and maintenance for DC power systems for the Department of Innovation and Technology. Item 4 I, approving two-year term contract for gas meters for the materials and supply warehouse and energy resources department. Item 5A, approving resolution to submit the US Department of Housing and Urban Development 2025 2029 5-year consolidated plan and the city of Mesa annual action plan for fiscal year 2025 2026. Item 5B, approving a resolution to enter into an intergovernmental agreement with the town of Gilbert for the housing choice voucher veterans affairs supporting housing or VASH program to allow Mesa Vash program participants to lease housing in the town of Gilbert. Item 5 C approving resolution to enter into a first amendment to the intergovernmental agreement between the city of Mesa and the Arizona Board of Regents. Item 6A, introduction of or zoning ordinance 24-78 for property located east of the northeast corner of Power Road and Guadalupe Road. Reszone with new plant area development overlay council use permit and site use permit for development of a 120 unit multiple residence development. Item 7A, approving ordinance amending sections 10-4-4 and 10-4-5 of the Mesa City Code to modify the limits of the existing posted speed limit of 40 mph on Val Vista Drive between Pomegranate Street and Quentin Drive and establish a speed limit of 35 miles per hour on Val Vista Drive between Quenton Drive and the north city limits as recommended by the Transportation Advisory Board. Item 8 A, approving subdivision Plat and Kanto on property east of the southeast corner of Lindsay Road and Kanto Street. And item 8B, approving subdivision platon beach amendment for property at the southeast corner of Warner Road and Power Road. Mayor and council members, these are the items on the consent agenda. Thank you, Mr. Christopher. Miss Mosley, are there any other blue cards regarding the consent agenda? No additional cards. Mayor. All right, council. I'll entertain a motion. We have a motion by Miss Spillsberry, a second by Miss Duff. Please cast your vote. All right, six yeses. The voting is unanimous. Thank you very much. Uh we'll move back over to 4 C. Item 4 C is regarding believe um photo radar. And that item is off. So with that, we have three speakers for this agenda item. First, I'd like to hear from Linda Patrick Hayes. Linda, if you're here, you want to come forward. Thank you. followed by uh Mary Babino here on deck. Linda 4C photo enforcement. Mr. Mayor and council members, um I am here to speak in opposition to uh the photo enforcement and I want to speak from a very personal several personal experiences I've had with that. So I'll I will talk about those. Uh, one night quite late I was traveling on Hampton going east and I came up to power and so I was went into the left turning lane to make a left turn. There was a car across the street from me in the left turning lane going south making a right-hand turn. We received the green light. We took I I I went forward and it was like the whole world exploded and it scared the living daylights out of me and it blinded me. And I also experienced twice in front of the uh uh Fremont uh uh middle school again after dark and having those lights go off scare you to death. And I don't I'm sure you understand that your our eyes when we have stuff like that in our eyes, it takes a long time for us to get back to the vision of night. And so I think they're very unsafe. I'm asking you not to do that because I think it's a safety risk. I think the city of Mesa is probably on the hook. If it is, if something like that does happen, if there's accidents, I mean, I've been I've never received a ticket, but you probably don't get a report of how many false ones they have. But I've always had people in the car with me, so I have uh witnesses to exactly what happened. But I think you should give a really big a look at at the city of Mesa and and their ris risk liability at that point. I also am study the constitution very very I love the constitution. I feel that it's unconstitutional. I feel that I'm I'm entitled to um that I'm innocent until proven guilty. that I am entitled to meet the per I'm entitled to go face to face with the person that accuses me which there is none and I am entitled to see the evidence presented against me and I really think that it's time that the citizens of the United States of America begin to live under the Constitution for the United States of America and I thank you. Thank you, Mary. No, I'm Linda. I mean, Linda, Mary, and followed by Mr. Win Stanley. David, you're on deck. Good evening, Mayor and members. The National Motors Association is against photo enforcement, and so am I. There are many problems associated with this, and here's a few. Problem number one, there is no certifiable witness to the alleged violation. So there's no accuser for the motorist to confront, which is a constitutional right. No one to personally testify as being a witness. Maybe somebody was having a heart attack in the car and they were driving him to the hospital. Maybe a guy's wife was having a baby in the back seat. And also, just because a camera was operating properly when set up, that doesn't mean it's operating properly when that picture is taken. Problem number two, photos do not identify the driver. The owner is mailed a ticket. Even if the owner wasn't driving, the owner may not know who was driving at the time. So, he's forced to prove his innocence. If you then you get to go to court and try to ID the actual driver, who may be a family member or a friend or maybe they never got the ticket in the first place in the mail or saw a process server. I believe the law states a process server can deliver the notice to a quote unquote suitable resident, which is kind of an ambiguous term. Um, do they leave it on the porch? Do they give it to the landscaper or to a 9-year-old? So, the next time the unsuspecting owner knows, the next thing the unsuspecting owner knows is his license got suspended and or he now has an arrest warrant out for him. Problem number three, companies state the goal is road safety, but it seems the real concern, the real reason is to increase revenue. The photo cameras were were taken off the 101 because motorists would hit their brakes when they saw them, thereby increasing the dangers of accidents, so they took them down. And if drivers do a photo enforcement is at a particular intersection and the light turns yellow and he's in that zone, he has two options. slam on those brakes to a stop or to dramatically speed up to be thread and both options obviously are extremely dangerous. I know this is primarily a money generator and I think you all know too you've increased the budget for more public safety. Real public safety would be accomplished if you took a couple of cops and varied the locations where speeding might be a problem and put them at various streets. And I think that if people see real cops giving out traffic violations on our streets, this would be a legal and fair deterrent. This or Williams system is not fair. And I don't think it's fair for you guys to fund your pet projects with this ownorous and potentially illegal program on the backs of of unsuspecting motorists. So, I'm really interested to see how you guys vote on this. Thank you so much. Thank you very much, Mr. Win Stanley. [Applause] Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor, esteemed councilman, and staff. Um, my name is David Winstanley. I live in Southeast Mesa. Most of you know me by now. Um, I have been for the past six year six years on the transportation advisory board and for the last year I've been the chairman. I recently reviewed and I apologize I left my phone at home so I'm doing this extemporaneously. I may misuse the words but the uh federally funded uh safe streets report and I believe Councilman Duff and Go forth reviewed that in your committee meeting. I happen to walk in at the end of that and listen. So part of that report uh is what got me interested in this subject. Uh and I left about 50 comments on the report uh to which your staff uh answered. Uh we didn't agree on everything, but reasonable people can disagree. That's okay. Um the report identified and the number that sticks in my head is 17 intersections where red light cameras would significantly reduce accidents. Um and my key question is does this funding address those 17 whatever the correct number is intersections that were identified or is that separate funding to be done in the future sometime and this is a continuation of existing. I couldn't figure out which was which. Uh I am speaking in favor of red lights uh red light cameras u not speeding cameras but red lights which I believe this is for. Um, and I'm doing so because uh I did my own investigation that showed on an empirical basis lives are saved with red light cameras. I I understand uh my my conservative uh compatriots will castigate me for speaking in favor of it. Um but again, reasonable people can disagree. Um and so I would ask you to answer their questions as best you can. How is the money spent? that was given to the the transportation advisory board and seemed quite reasonable to me. Um, but even we conservatives have to demonstrate that we obey the law and this is a way to save lives. Um, I don't want to have to ask one of our policemen to go to a home to tell a family member that someone has been seriously hurt or killed in a traffic accident that might have been avoided. There is good data that says red light um cameras do reduce accidents at intersections as documented in that report. Uh and I ask you to fund this, but I do ask you to uh explain how that relates to the report that was uh sent out by the the uh the transportation department. Thank you. Thank you, David. And we'll do just that. I've asked Mr. Brady for a reply and then any council members if they want to weigh in, they can as well. Thank you. Thank you. So, is Eric here because I wasn't here for that presentation. I know that mayor and council there are currently 16 active intersections and six six active school zones where we have the photo radar enforcement. And so, I don't know, Eric, if the additional intersections they're speaking of, are they included or they would they be additional? Um, thank you, mayor, uh, council. Um, anything that's in the report for the the safe streets for all grants is not included that those would be additional that that are not included in this contract. I don't want to speak to police, but we that that report is a planning document and and is we haven't taken action on it. So, Eric, the 16 that the 16 intersections that were in today do not include the 17 that are identified in the report. Correct. All right. So, mayor and council, we have 16 intersections today and six active school zones. Uh, one of the school zones is down and without dated equipment. So, part of the reason for this uh contract is to continue the the work of providing safe intersections and school zones, but also to replace a lot of outdated equipment, which will make it much more efficient. Um I think it's important to note that many years ago the council made the decision that any revenue that is collected um from photo radar um is reinvested into safety projects which I think then Eric has a very important role in identifying those projects whether they're helping with midblock pedestrian crossings, canal crossings, bike ped so we use that to reinvest specifically and only for um those types of projects. And I so I maybe I did I is there something did I cover? No, that's that's great. Must stuff. Did you I I just wanted to add on to what Mr. Brady was saying that it also uh the revenues also contribute to the school zone upgrades and keeping those safe and I think that is a a great benefit to our city. It it's certainly from a technological you think about the real-time crime center and you're using technology and cameras. This is something that we've been able to use and it really helps us with instead of having to deploy police officers in every um in all these school zones, we're able to do that with photo radar and it's turned to be very effective and I think we've seen the studies that even in the intersections where we've had them for some time, we have seen a reduction in collisions in those areas and I think that the point also is a citation is not issued until it's actually reviewed by someone in the police department. Does that correct Jean and nod your head? So there is a verification process. So there light may flash, but then the citation may never be sent just because it's reviewed by an individual who looks at the photo to determine that it meets the standard um of a violation. So um often times individuals will see the flashing and that may be just because of the position where the car is where it's triggering it, but maybe they're um not fully in the intersection. There's a lot of different reason or not or just the opposite I guess. So, um, we we try to do everything we can to make sure these are valid violations and there is a person uh there's a group of individuals who look at these photos and make that determination and they sign off on it um and then that's it moves forward from there. Thank you, Miss Billsberry. Are there times that it misfire is not the right word, but that it goes off? I'm sure that could have happened, especially with the the older equipment. But then again, someone has to look at the photo and see whether that Well, I'm just trying to address her um her issue with that it being the same. We could go Yeah, we could go and check um uh what that's one of the things the benefit of this um agenda or this contract does. It helps us go back and upgrade a lot of the equipment that we have out there. Did you have anything to add to that, Eric? You don't know. You don't have any data on that or anything? Um I apologize. It's not transportations equipment and it it's not transportation. It goes through. Yeah. And Chief Chief Chief Nesbet wanted why don't you come up to So my other question though I I maybe I should have asked but are the out of the 17 are there any crossover of the 22 that we currently have? No. The answer was they're not included. They're completely but I I I know they're not included. I just don't know if there were any of that were the same. Mayor, Council Member Spillsbury, I would I I have to go back and look at okay the exact locations in the report. My guess is they're they're not and we've already identified the locations that are existing. And what so once we initially picked those locations, I'm assuming we checked those are the locations it should still be at. When we started all this, right, it was that was what was driving it. Pey and uh transportation spent a lot of time. They have joint staff that work together. Eric pulls the information from PD on intersection collisions, pedestrian inter uh collisions, and all that information is fed into the decision about where we put photo radar from the onset. Right. And and do we change them though as we get new information or we don't change them? I don't know about that. You go ahead. Okay. Mayor, vice mayor, council, thank you for the questions. Uh what happens is it evolves. So over the years we did start with 35 intersections and now we move down to 16 and we are moving to 20 because we did deactivate several thinking that um things had adjusted and then over time we realized looking at the data that we need to bring the cameras back. So in general we're not moving them all the time. It's over a span of time that we continue to evaluate. Additionally we're adding three new school districts. So bringing us or school zones bringing us from 6 to 9 and that's based on the community and what they're looking for and even what our officers are seeing when they go out to these schools and they're listening to the complaints of the parents of the students of the school uh itself related to driving behaviors. And so it is evaluated. We do look at it and we do base it on um what our statistics are showing us. I did want to answer the question about the citations. So, we do have citations that are reviewed that we do not issue that we realize um in in uh 2024 we had about 7,000 of those citations that flashed that we never even issued those citations. And then with any citation when you do receive it, you do um it is being reviewed by a police investigator who's looking at the data and determining whether or not it there is reasonleness that that violation occurred. And then of course from there you have your options to go before the magistrate and that's where you would get the additional due process. And Gina, they they receive a copy of the photo that is being looked at, right? So they have the opportunity to evaluate. I'm I'm aware of how that works. Oh, sorry. There's people in my house that have gotten them before, so I've seen them before. Um, no, I Yeah, I get that. I I guess um 7,000 is a big number of ones that weren't. So, that means 7,000 flashes went off in the city that weren't red light running or that didn't justify the citation, right? It's hard to tell because of the timing. And I know um I mentioned to commander Deravan that I would like to talk to Vera Mobility out of respect for um one of the citizens who talks about the bright light and in the evening in the dark streets that I I know that can be startling. So that's what I'm trying to get at is this happening hundreds of times. You don't I don't think so. But the light is if a car is being flashed, even if it's not your car and you're in or around that area, that flash is bright. And so, um, like I said, we'll we'll address that. We'll kind of talk to Vera Mobility and see what technology enhancements. I do think that is a concern that that does worry me that we should look into as far as like the brightness of it or if it is going off randomly. I mean, if if you're not if you're if you're speeding and it happens, then sorry, you're going to get blinded. But if you're not speeding, that shouldn't be happening. Mayor, vice I'm not sure that it's not going off properly. It just may not be to your vehicle, right? there's other vehicles in the area. You see what I'm saying? So, you'll still be affected by the light because you're somewhere along, but yes, of course, sometimes it's technology and it's tricky. And we have better technology now. We have better cameras going up than we have in the past. All of those things are always evaluated to make improvements to the program. Okay, great. Thank you, Miss Go for Can you address the safety issue? And I know I asked this at city on Thursday, and I appreciate you emailing me. I know we've exchanged emails, but because we've heard both sides tonight, one a claim that they might um cause accidents uh or more likely to cause accidents as well as data that shows that they're absolut they're um increasing the safety at intersections. Can you speak a little bit to that? Sure. Mayor, vice mayor, council. Um, we don't have any specific data that would tell us that the photo safety cameras cause people's driving behavior to change, meaning uh in the negative speeding up and causing an accident. We are going to try to look and see if we can look at our collision form and draw some data from that. So, basically, this is a common um concern for those people who are not for uh photo safety. They bring this up over in the Senate, too, that having them there causes drivers to speed up or slam on their brakes and those things. So, we have no specific data to support or negate that, but given the question has come up so much, we've already started trying to pull some of our collision reports to see if we can get any of the it would be the pre-driving behavior that we're looking for, right? So, ultimately, if a person slams on their brake, the onus becomes on the driver behind that person to have proper distance to be able to stop. Right? That's why we have the statute of um you know speed that is reasonable and prudent to avoid a collision. So that's where those type of behaviors would come into effect. But we have heard this and we are looking into uh that particular thing. As far as speed cameras altering driver behavior in the positive, we definitely have data that shows that support. It is to some degree similar to having a police officer on the corner on the intersection, but like Mr. Brady said it's not feasible to have a police officer on every major intersection, although I would like to suggest that the Mesa Police Department does in fact deploy that data-driven policing model based on traffic safety and crime. So, but to to make the point again though, we put these photo radar systems in intersections that we determine are unsafe or more dangerous than others and they have proven to be effective in that um regard. So, yes sir, if we if we believe that the photo radar system in of itself is creating accidents, then we probably wouldn't see the results that are opposite that, right? So, but the the point is we do see that photo radar intersections are safer and they're safer from when they they previously were installed. And that's that's the point of why we do this. There's again there's no motivation for us to do it just to collect more revenues. That's not driving our budget or anything like that. It's uh because all that money is just reinvested back into pedestrian safety and bicycle safety programs. Yes, sir. That is accurate. Thank you. Okay, Miss Hayes, I'm sorry you got a a ticket. Oh, Mr. Adams, you go ahead. Thank you, Mayor. Uh, just very briefly, help me understand the the difference in the due process rights here. Let's say scenario A is I'm driving down the road. I'm speeding and there's a motor officer with a radar. He hits me with a radar and it says I'm 20 over. Pulls me over, writes me a ticket. Same scenario. No motor officer, speed camera. 20 miles over, camera shoots me, clear picture of me. What is the difference if I choose to um contest? What are what are the differences in my due process rights in those two things? Because my assumption is the motor officer is relying on the electronic device in his hand that says I'm doing 65, not 45. So, wouldn't I have the same due process rights in both cases other than the officer comes to court and says, "Well, I looked at my radar and it said 65. Mayor, vice mayor, councel, that is exactly correct. The due process is is the same. Some of the argument is that there is officer discretion when you are actually with the officer. So that can be you don't have officer discretion with a camera, right? Because you're not actually talking to anyone at that time. But the process for challenging the validity of that citation is exactly the same. So, the officer discretion doesn't alter the fact that I was speeding 20 over. No, it doesn't, sir. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I wondered if Jim wanted to chime in on that question because that was that's a pretty good legal question that was just asked first. Yeah, mayor, Vice Mayor, and Council, and I I think Council Member Adams asked it perfectly how I would asked it, and the answer was correct. It's the same due process. Another way to think of it as by way of example is this is if you had a photo of someone committing a murder, the idea that we wouldn't prosecute it because all we had was a photo of the person committing the murder um is the same sort of concept. Um that that is sufficient evidence um um to convict somebody um and the jury gets to take that in consideration and and on a traffic situation, the magistrate gets to take it into consideration, but the due process is exactly the same. And so, and what we're doing here is done in many communities throughout the state of Arizona. And if there was some constitutional challenge that could be made, um, it could be made against the state statute or the many municipalities that engage in similar photo radar programs. Uh, speaking of officer discretion, you said all these photos are reviewed. Yes, sir. So there's discretion at a different point where an officer is going to review that and decide whether or not there's there's a an issue for a citation. Vice Mayor, yes, that is correct. We have a police investigator who reviews all the citations. Every citation gets So police officer is doing that. Not a police officer, but a police investigator investigator. I just want to make that clear. Okay. And then one thing I that I heard you said, you said we're adding three new school zones, but the doc the council reports as two. My apologies. One has been down, so we're bringing that one back online. We're down. Yeah. Sorry, I just lumped them together. So, we'll have three, but two new additional ones we haven't had before. Yes. Very good. Thank you. Any other questions, council stuff? Oh, it's on a subject that I love. I just wanted to bring attention to um the safety of our streets and how important it is for our city. We have more fatalities through traffic accidents than we do in homicides in our city in a given year. So this is something that we take seriously in in the um transportation department and this comprehensive safety action plan looking at that and how we can reduce fatalities. And the two number one things the two the top two things that um create the fatalities are speeding and red light running. Those are the two that are contribute to our fatalities. They say you never want to be the first or last person in an intersection because the red lights running on that um usually at high speed and usually are fatal. So I support um you know having these tools in order to discourage people from um speeding and red light running. We're trying to save lives and I I realize the inconvenience. I think we've all at some point had a photo read radar for various reasons trying to save lives of those in intersections and and in school zones. So this is very important. Our uh goal is to reduce um our accidents or fatalities 30% by 2030. Thank you. Thank you, Chief. Thank to both of you. Thank you. And just to reiterate, Linda, I hope you got an explanation about our feelings about the red light camera. Just like to clarify, I never ever received a ticket. That's what I was going to say. You never got the ticket. You're probably one of those lucky I pay it. You're probably one of the lucky 7,000 that didn't get one. Julie might have. She So, just, you know, I was doing the math, but over 55,000 uh pictures were taken through red light cameras, and only se of that 7,000 were dismissed. So, good for that. And if you have some more comments, uh, Linda will invite you to talk to Chief Nesbet if you like in the back. With that, uh, council will entertain a motion to about this one. 4C. Thank you, Miss Spillsberry. Second by Vice Mayor Summers. Please vote. Okay. Motion passes unanimous. Thank you. All right. Next, we'll move over to item nine from citizens present. And currently, we have just uh one item, one person, Mr. Carrie Davis. Will you come forward? And thank you so much. Good evening, Mayor, City Council. My name is Carrie Davis. So, I wanted to just take a few minutes and discuss a little bit about the budget. The current year's budget is projected to have revenues of total for general governmental of $71.5 million and expenditures uses of 705 million.7 for a deficit of 44.3 million. The current projected fund fund forecast for the upcoming year 2526 shows that the revenue will only be 667.4 million, $34 million less than the current year, but expenditures of 718.9 million for a deficit of $51.5 million. And so it seems to me that one of the needs for our city is to help to reduce the expenditures. And I think that one of the areas that the city should spend some time on is the pensions for police and fire. For the prior fiscal year 2023, the city's net pension and OPEAD liability was 1 bill768,824,000. It increased by 156 million for the current or for the fiscal year ending 2024 to 1 million or 1 bill924796,000. That's an increase of $156 million. And so it seems to me that the city has a plan, as I understand it, to try to improve that. But over the last four years, the improvement really seems to be very minimal. As of 2024, the city's unfunded, excuse me, the funded portion was 51.54% for fire and 50.67% funded for police. So, those are some areas, it seems to me, that don't get positively impacted by continuing to spend more and more. And so those are some of the things that I think that the city may want to consider in helping to reduce the overexpenditures in the current upcoming budget. If the city were to only spend 667 million that they take in for 2526 and not overspend by 51 million, the city would have then a opportunity to help to reduce that overage for pension. And I think that's something that is worthy of the city's consideration. And is my time up? Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Carrie. With that, council, I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. So, move. Thank you, Vice Mayor. Thank you, Mayor Freeman. Uh, yes. Did you want me to read these? Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, we do have some blue blue cards that wish not to speak. Um, right. So, I will you please read them into the record? Yes. blue cards from eight members of the public in support of diversity and inclusion and zero tolerance for discriminatory behavior. And the names for the record are Natalie Pullman, Carol Payne, Amanda Holidayiday Jennifer Anage, Troy Hillman, Emily Hillman, James Walters, and Jillian Ryan. Thank you. Thank you for reminding me, Miss Mosley. Uh, with that, Vice Mayor's made a motion. Miss go forth is a second. All in favor? I. Okay. Motion to adjurnn. Thank you. [Music] [Music]