This transcript features **Council President Elliott Payne**, members of the **Minneapolis City Council**, and various city staff. **Note on Speakers:** Based on the dialogue, there are discrepancies between the provided context list and the active representatives (e.g., Andrea Jenkins is identified as the Ward 8 representative in the transcript, and Katie Cashman as Ward 7). The transcript below reflects the names as they self-identify or are addressed during the meeting. *** [0:12] **Council President Elliott Payne:** [GAVEL] >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ELLIOTT PAYNE. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL. AND BEFORE WE CONVENE OUR MEETING, WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS OF HONORARY RESOLUTIONS. WE ARE PLEASED TO WELCOME GUESTS TO THE SPACE TO SHARE IN THE PRESENTATIONS BEFORE TAKING UP OUR AGENDA. [0:27] **Council President Elliott Payne:** FIRST UP IS A RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING INTERNATIONAL TRANSGENDER DAY OF VISIBILITY IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. AND I WILL WELCOME UP COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS. [0:44] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. [1:09] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** >> A WELL, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ANDREA JENKINS AND I AM THE COUNCIL MEMBER REPRESENTING WARD 8 IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS. I'M ALSO PROUD TO BE REPRESENTING THE TRANS AND GENDER NONCONFORMING COMMUNITY TODAY AS I DO EACH AND EVERY DAY, BUT IT'S ESPECIALLY POIGNANT ON THIS DAY, INTERNATIONAL TRANSGENDER DAY OF VISIBILITY. [1:41] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE NEED TO HAVE THIS RECOGNITION OR THIS DAY TO LIFT UP TRANS AND GENDER NONCONFORMING PEOPLE IS BECAUSE THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN UNDER ATTACK BY MOST RECENTLY AND MOST DETERIOUSLY BY THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IN THE WHITE HOUSE. [2:16] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** IT'S NOT JUST THEM. IN ALMOST ALL 50 STATES THERE HAVE BEEN OVER 400 BILLS AND LEGISLATION PASSED TO LIMIT TRANSAND GENDER NONCONFORMING PEOPLE'S ACCESS TO PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS, TO HOUSING, TO JOB COMMUNITIES. [2:42] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** THEY'RE EVEN BANNING YOUNG TRANCE AND GENDER NONCONFORMING PEOPLE FROM PLAYING SPORTS, WHICH IS TRAGIC IN MY OPINION. BUT THIS RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING MARCH 31, 2025, AS THE INTERNATIONAL TRANSGENDER DAY OF VISIBILITY OFFERED BY THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS READS, WHEREAS, THE INTERNATIONAL TRANSGENDER DAY OF VISIBILITY HOLIDAY WAS FOUNDED IN 2009 AS A REACTION TO THE LACK OF LGBTQIA PLUS HOLIDAYS THAT CELEBRATE THE SUCCESSES AND THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF TRANS AND GENDER NONCONFORMING PEOPLE. [3:27] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS WAS THE FIRST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES TO HAVE AN OPENLY TRANSGENDER PERSON SERVING AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE CITY COUNCIL -- THAT WOULD BE ME, BY THE WAY. [3:43] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** [APPLAUSE] HAVING JUST PREVIOUSLY MADE HISTORY AS THE FIRST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES TO HAVE TWO BLACK OPENLY TRANSGENDER COUNCIL MEMBERS ELECTED TO ITS BODY. AND WHEREAS, MINNEAPOLIS WAS THE FIRST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES TO BAN DISCRIMINATION ON TRANSGENDER IDENTIFY 50 YEARS AGO WHEN IT AMENDED ITS CIVIL RIGHTS ORDINANCE IN 1975 BY ADDING LANGUAGE BANNING DISCRIMINATION BASED ON HAVING OR PROJECTING A SELF-IMAGE, NOT ASSOCIATED WITH ONE'S BIOLOGICAL MALENESS AND/OR ONE'S BIOLOGICAL FEMALENESS. [4:28] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** AND I THINK WE HAVE TO THANK THEN COUNCIL MEMBER HOFFSTEAD, AM I CORRECT? MAYOR HOFFSTEAD FOR BRINGING FORTH THAT AMENDMENT. [4:43] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** WHEREAS, THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS HAS CONTINUED TO MAKE EFFORTS TO REDUCE THE SIGNIFICANT DISPARITIES IN EMPLOYMENT, HEALTH CARE, SAFETY, HOUSING AND ACCESS TO PUBLIC SPACES AS WELL AS THE TRANSGENDER WORK GROUP CREATED IN 2014 AND THE TRANSGENDER EXEGG COUNCIL CREATED IN 2017. [5:09] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** AND WHEREAS, IN 2014, IT IS BELIEVED THAT MINNEAPOLIS WAS THE FIRST CITY IN THE NATION TO HOST A CITY-SPONSORED TRANSGENDER EQUITY SUMMIT, AN ANNUAL EVENT DRAWING INCREASED PARTICIPATION EACH YEAR UPWARDS OF 300 ATTENDEES. [5:28] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** IN THE FALL OF THIS YEAR THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS WILL PROUDLY HOST THE 10th ANNUAL TRANSEQUITY SUMMIT. AND WHEREAS, THE TRANSGENDER EQUITY SUMMIT IS A RESULT OF COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS OF VARIOUS CITY DEPARTMENTS, CROSS GOVERNMENTAL PARTNERS, COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS ROOTED IN THE LGBTQIA PLUS COMMUNITIES OF MINNEAPOLIS. [5:52] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** AND WHEREAS, THE ACCOMPLISHMENT OF THE TRANSGENDER EQUITY COUNCIL IN 2017, A VOLUNTARY BODY COMPRISED MOSTLY OF MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS HAS FURTHER ENHANCED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND PARTICIPATION IN THE ADVANCEMENT OF POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OF THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS THAT IMPACT THE LIVES OF TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUALS. [6:15] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** AND WHEREAS, BOTH THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA SIGNED EXECUTIVE ORDERS TO PROTECT AND SUPPORT THE RIGHTS OF MINNESOTA'S LGBTQIA PLUS COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO SAFELY RECEIVE GENDER-AFFIRMING HEALTH CARE SERVICES AND AN ACCOMPANIED BILL WAS PASSED AT THE LEGISLATURE. [6:39] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** THIS YEAR A NEW STATE LAW TOOK EFFECT REQUIRING HEALTH CARE PLANS THAT COVER PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES TO ALSO COVER MEDICALLY NECESSARY GENDER AFFIRMING CARE. AND WHEREAS, OUR TRANSGENDER AND GENDER NONCONFORMING COMMUNITY MEMBER, BOTH LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY, CONTINUE TO BE IMPACTED BY THE PROLIFERATION OF LEGISLATIVE ATTACKS THAT PERPETUATE A CULTURE OF DISCRIMINATION, HARASSMENT, AND BARRIERS TO EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY. [7:15] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** AND WHEREAS, IT IS INCUMBENT ON ALL OF US TO CONFRONT AND CONDEMN THIS HARMFUL RHETORIC AND PHYSICAL VIOLENCE AGAINST OUR TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY MEMBERS WITH AN INTENTIONAL FOCUS ON TRANSYOUTH AND STUDENTS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING GROUP VIOLENCE IN SCHOOLS. [7:37] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** AND WHEREAS, THE INTERNATIONAL TRANSGENDER DAY OF VIZ SBLT AN ANNUAL HOLIDAY CELEBRATED AROUND THE WORLD THAT PROMOTES THE IMPORTANCE OF RECOGNIZING AND SUPPORTING THE RESILIENCE AND STRENGTH OF OUR TRANSGENDER AND GENDER NONCONFORMING MEMBERS ON THIS DAY AND EVERY DAY. [7:55] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY HONOR AND RECOGNIZE MARCH 31, 2025, AS A DAY DEDICATED TO CELEBRATING THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND VICTORIES OF THE TRANSGENDER AND GENDER NONCONFORMING PEOPLE WHILE RAISING AWARENESS OF THE WORK THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SAVE TRANS LIVES. [8:22] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. AND TODAY WE HAVE HERE WITH US FOLKS THAT ARE DOING LIFE SAVING WORK IN TRANS AND GENDER NONCONFORMING COMMUNITIES. [8:44] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** PARTICULARLY WITH OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, AND MORE BROADLY, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, BUT I'M JUST HOPING SOME FOLKS MIGHT BE WILLING TO SHARE A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE WORK YOU ARE DOING. [9:01] **Kat Rohn (OutFront MN):** >> SHARE. I AM CAT ROAN AND I USE THEY AND SHE PRONOUNS AND I SERVE AS DIRECTOR FOR OUTFRONT MINNESOTA, OUR STATE'S LARGEST LGBTQ ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION. JUST A COUPLE DAYS AGO WE HELD A YOUTH SUMMIT WITH ABOUT 450 YOUTH FROM ALL AROUND THE STATE, AND THE RESOUNDING THING THAT I HEARD FROM ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WAS THIS IS A VERY SCARY TIME, PARTICULARLY FOR TRANS FOLKS IN THIS COUNTRY. [9:27] **Kat Rohn:** BUT THEY'RE GRATEFUL TO BE HERE IN MINNESOTA. AND ACTIONS LIKE THESE AS SYMBOLIC AS THEY ARE, ARE COMMITMENTS THAT MEAN SOMETHING TO OUR STATE'S YOUTH ESPECIALLY. RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO BE VISIBLE BECAUSE VISIBILITY IS BEING WEAPONIZED AGAINST OUR COMMUNITIES. [9:48] **Kat Rohn:** IT'S BEING WEAPONIZED AGAINST TRANS FOLKS, IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES, FOLKS WHO ARE IN ALL SORTS OF INTERSECTIONAL LENSES IN OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. AND OUR COMMUNITIES ARE FEELING THE BRUNT OF THAT. WE HAVE WATCHED A THIS IS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS ERODED OUR CIVIL RIGHTS, OUR BASIC ACCESS TO IDENTITY DOCUMENTS, AND OUR AK SES TO -- AND ACCESS TO CARE IN ALL SORTS OF THINGS. [10:12] **Kat Rohn:** AND TO STEP UP AND DO WHAT YOU CAN TO CONTINUE TO SPEAK UP TO OUR COMMUNITIES SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE VIBRANT AND PRESENT MEMBERS OF THE DAILY LIFE HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. [10:28] **Kat Rohn:** SO GRATEFUL FOR THE VISIBILITY THAT COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS HAS SHOWN THROUGH SO MANY ASPECTS OF OUR COMMUNITY'S LIFE AND DECADES OF COMMITMENT TO THIS WORK. AND I WOULD ASK EVERYBODY PRESENT TO MAKE THE COMMITMENTS TO THE YOUTH, TO THE BIPOC COMMUNITIES, TO ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE IMPACTED AND THE HARM'S BEING DONE BY THE ADMINISTRATION. [10:50] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SHARE A FEW COMMENTS, THOUGHTS? [10:55] **Community Advocate:** >> FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS AND THE FULL BODY HERE, AS WELL AS MAYOR FREY FOR THEIR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF OUR COMMUNITY. [11:11] **Community Advocate:** I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT MAYOR FREY JUST RECENTLY ISSUED A STATEMENT SAYING THAT MINNEAPOLIS IS GOING TO REMAIN A SAFE SPACE FOR TRANSGENDER AND IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES, AND I THINK THAT MEANS EVERYTHING TO US. [11:30] **Community Advocate:** I FEEL REALLY HONORED TO BE IN THIS WORK WITH THE FOLKS ON THIS BODY AND LONG TIME FRIEND AND LOOKING TO THE LEADERSHIP OF ANDREA FOR A LONG TIME. BOTH ANNA AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING FAR LONG TIME TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, HEALING, AND JOY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. [11:52] **Community Advocate:** AND WE'RE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW THROUGH AN INITIATIVE AT OUR SPACE CALLED THE CUTIE CASTLE. AND WE'RE WORKING TO REALLY LOOK AT HOUSING AND SHELTERS FOR TRANS AND GENDER NONCONFORMING FOLKS. [12:10] **Community Advocate:** DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? [APPLAUSE] [12:25] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** >> WOW. WELL, THANK YOU, ALL, FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO. [12:35] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** THE LIFE AFFIRMING WORK THAT YOU DO EACH AND EVERY DAY ON BEHALF OF TRANS AND GENDER NONCONFORMING FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND MORE BROADLY IN CREATING EQUITY AND EQUALITY FOR ALL IN OUR COMMUNITY, SO I WANT TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU. [12:51] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** THE RESOLUTION MENTIONS THIS WORK HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2014 HERE AT THE CITY AND BEGAN MUCH LONGER BEFORE THAT IN 1975, BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP THIS WORK MOVING FORWARD. [13:08] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** AS I PREPARE TO LEAVE PUBLIC OFFICE, I HOPE THIS LEGACY OF WORK WILL CONTINUE AT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. [13:25] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** I KNOW THAT REPRESENTATION DOES MATTER, AND WE HAVE TRIED TO LAY THE GROUND WORK TO KEEP THIS WORK PERPETUATING FORWARD. SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE CAN PULL IN TOGETHER FOR A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY. [13:43] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** AND MOVE ON WITH THE REST OF OUR DAY. [14:25] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> NEXT WE WILL BE WELCOMING UP GUESTS TO RECOGNIZE NATIONAL STRESS AWARENESS MONTH PRESENTED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS JENKINS, PALMISANO AND VETAW. [14:53] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** >> WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING IN HERE. SOME OF THOSE LESS FAMILIAR FACES ARE OUR H.R. TEAM, OUR BENEFITS PEOPLE, SPECIFICALLY ON H.R. [15:09] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** WE HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST AND WE'VE INVITED OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO JOIN US TODAY AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THEY DO. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND START BY READING THE PRETTY SHORT RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING APRIL AS NATIONAL STRESS AWARENESS MONTH. [15:26] **Council Member LaTrisha Vetaw:** >> THIS IS AUTHORED BY MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER VETAWENED A COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS. >> ALL RIGHT. WHEREAS, MANAGING STRESS IS AN ESSENTIAL COMPONENT OF A HEALTHY LIFE STYLE. AND WHEREAS, SINCE 1992, APRIL IS RECOGNIZED AS NATIONAL STRESS AWARENESS MONTH, A TIME TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THE IMPACT OF STRESS ON PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH AND PROMOTE STRATEGIES FOR STRESS MANAGEMENT. [15:53] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** >> AND WHEREAS, WHILE NOT ALL STRESS IS BAD, STRESS CAN AFFECT YOUR BODY, THOUGHTS, FEELINGS AND BEHAVIOR AND BEING ABLE TO RECOGNIZE COMMON SYMPTOMS OF STRESS CAN HELP YOU MANAGE THEM. AND -- WHEREAS, STUDSDYES HAVE SHOWN THAT STRESS IS ONE OF THE LEADING CAUSES OF HEALTH ISSUES CONTRIBUTING TO CONDITIONS SUCH AS HEART DISEASE, ANXIETY, DEPRESSION, AND SLEEP DISORDERS. [16:20] **Council Member LaTrisha Vetaw:** >> AND WHEREAS, ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION, MORE THAN 70% OF ADULTS REPORT EXPERIENCING PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL SYMPTOMS OF STRESS AND THE STRESS LEVELS AMONG RESIDENTS OF URBAN AREAS, INCLUDING MINNEAPOLIS, HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO BE HIGHER THAN IN RURAL REGIONS DUE TO FACTORS SUCH AS WORK PRESSURES, TRAFFIC, AND COST OF LIVING. [16:42] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** >> AND WHEREAS, IN MINNEAPOLIS, RESIDENTS FACE UNIQUE CHALLENGES SUCH AS THE PRESSURES OF COMPETITIVE JOB MARKET, HIGH HOUSING COSTS AND IMPACTS OF SEASONAL WEATHER CHANGES, WHICH CAN CONTRIBUTE TO ELEVATED STRESS LEVELS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND -- >> AND A 2021 REPORT BY THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH REVEALED THAT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, INCLUDING STRESS AND ANXIETY, HAVE BEEN ON THE RISE IN THE TWIN CITIES AREA, UNDERSCORING THE NEED FOR INCREASED AWARENESS AND COPING WITH STRESS. [17:22] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** >> AND WHEREAS, ORGANIZATIONSN MINNEAPOLIS, INCLUDING LOCAL NONPROFITS, HEALTH CARE PROVIDEERS AND EDUCATORS HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY TO OFFER STRESS REDUCTION PROGRAMS, MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, AND COMMUNITY WELLNESS INITIATIVES, ENCOURAGING RESIDENTS TO SEEK HELP AND PRACTICE SELF-CARE. [17:43] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** >> AND WHEREAS, MANAGING STRESS THROUGH HEALTHY PRACTICES SUCH AS PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, MINDFULNESS, SOCIAL CONNECTIONS AND PROFESSIONAL COUNSELING CAN IMPROVE THE WELL BEING OF INDIVIDUALS AND STRENGTHEN THE OVERALL HEALTH AND OUR COMMUNITY. [18:04] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** >> AND -- WHEREAS, NATIONAL STRESS AWARENESS MONTH SERVES AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL CITIZENS OF MINNEAPOLIS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT STRESS, RECOGNIZE ITS IMPACT AND TAKE PROTIVE STEPS TOWARDS BETTER MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE APRIL AS NATIONAL STRESS AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. [18:24] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU. SO STRESS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT CAN REALLY SNEAK UP ON YOU AND START TO DO DAMAGE BEFORE YOU EVEN KNOW THAT'S HAPPENING. THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE IT AND LEARN HOW TO MANAGE IT. [18:43] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** AS WE SAID, STRESS ISN'T NECESSARILY BAD, BURR OUR ABILITY TO COPE WITH IT IS A KEY TO A HEALTHY LIFE STYLE. WE HAVE STRESS IN OUR WORK PLACES, FAMILIES AND SOCIAL CIRCLES. EVERY DAY IN THE NATIONAL NEWS WE ARE HEARING ABOUT AND STRESSED BY ANOTHER RIGHT BEING THREATENED, ANOTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE BEING TARGETED, ANOTHER PROGRAM BEING DISCONTINUED, LAYOFFS, LOSS OF FUNDING FOR I THINK IFS THAT WE HOLD DEAR, WHETHER IT'S VACCINE CLINICS OR CLIMATE ACTION. [19:10] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** THESE AFFECT THE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY EVERY DAY. I INVITED OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO JOIN US TODAY IN RECOGNITION OF THE STRESSFUL JOB THAT THEY HAVE AND THAT THEY ARE FREQUENTLY DEALING WITH, PEOPLE IN HYPER STRESSFUL SITUATIONS. WE REALLY OWE THEM OUR THANKS FOR HELPING PEOPLE IN TIMES WHEN THEY HAVE MAYBE NOT BEEN AS AWARE OF THE STRESS AND THE IMPACT ON THEIR WELL BEING. [19:34] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** I SEE WE HAVE 911 JODY HODNEY AND FIRE, LINDA SONNE, AND M.P.D. AND CANOPY ROOTS FOR THE WORK THEY DO IN OUR CITY. DID YOU SAY POLICE ARE HERE? [19:50] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE A GUEST SPEAKER, MARYANN JOHNSON, A MINDFULNESS INSTRUCTOR FROM THE BAKEN CENTER TO FORMALLY RECEIVE THIS RESOLUTION AND MAKE SOME REMARKS. [20:07] **Maryann Johnson:** >> FIRST OFF, I'M HONORED TO BE HERE REPRESENTING THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA AND THE CENTER FOR SPIRITUALITY AND HEALING TO HONOR THIS PROCLAMATION. AND ALSO, JUST APRIL AS BEING NATIONAL STRESS AWARENESS MONTH. I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO MORE OF THE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT STRESS FEELS LIKE, LOOKS LIKE, AND IT IS RISES IN NUMBERS IN AMERICA, ALONG WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND ALL THE REST OF IT. [20:33] **Maryann Johnson:** WHAT I WILL TELL YOU AT THE BAKKEN CENTER, WE'RE HERE TO PROMOTE AS BEST WE CAN THE MITIGATION OF THE IMPACT OF STRESS ON OUR BODIES, OUR COMMUNITIES, OUR FAMILIES, OUR WORK PLACES. AND TO HONOR RESILIENCE. AND I REALLY WANT TO SAY THAT. AT TIMES LIKE THIS, I THINK WE CAN ALL PULL ON THOSE PEOPLE WE KNOW WHO DEMONSTRATE INCREDIBLE RESILIENCE IN THE MIDST OF DIFFICULTY. [20:56] **Maryann Johnson:** ALL OF YOU STANDING HERE WITH ME PROBABLY. AND SO WHAT WE DO AT THE CENTER, THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH US, IS WE DO THREE SIMPLE THINGS. ACTUALLY, THEY WOULDN'T SAY IT'S SO SIMPLE, MY RESEARCHERS. BUT WE CONDUCT RESEARCH, APPLYING WELL BEING AND RESILIENCE IN OUR COMMUNITIES. [21:14] **Maryann Johnson:** WE ALSO HAVE ACADEMIC COURSES. OF COURSE, WE'RE AT THE UNIVERSITY! THE COUNTRY'S FIRST DEGREE IN MASTERS IN HEALTH COACHING. AND THEN THERE IS THE DIVISION THAT WE BRING ALL THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA, AS BEST WE CAN, RESEARCH AND WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT HOW TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF STRESS INTO OUR LIVES AND WORK PLACES. [21:39] **Maryann Johnson:** MANY OF THE SERVICES, PROGRAMS, YOU NAME IT, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC HAVE BEEN OFFERED SLIDING FREE -- SLIDING FEE SCALE OR FREE. IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT THE STATE OF MINNESOTA HAS ACCESS TO THE RESOURCES. [21:56] **Maryann Johnson:** TO THAT END I HAVE GIVEN RUTH OLSON A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT SHE'S PROMISED SHE IS GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU ELECTRONICALLY SO YOUR EMPLOYEES AND NEIGHBORS AND FAMILIES AND FRIENDS AND EVERYBODY IN YOUR COMMUNITY CAN GAIN ACCESS TO THESE TIPS AND RESOURCES ON HOW TO BE MORE RESILIENT. [22:12] **Maryann Johnson:** HOW TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF STRESS IN OUR LIVES. AGAIN, JUST REALLY PLEASED TO HONOR THIS PROCLAMATION, ALL OF YOUR WORK, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. [22:29] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** >> THANK YOU. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? DIRECTOR ODOM? [22:34] **Director Odom:** >> I PREPARED SOME REMARKS. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBERS VETAW, PALMISANO AND JENKINS. AND THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I'M HONORED TO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING APRIL AS STRESS AWARENESS MONTH. [22:46] **Director Odom:** AS WE CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY WITH COMMITMENT AND COMPASSION, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE VERY REAL IMPACTS STRESS CAN HAVE ON OUR HEALTH, OUR WORK AND OUR RELATIONSHIPS BOTH AT HOME AND IN THE WORK PLACE. THIS RESOLUTION IS MORE THAN SYMBOLIC. IT'S A CALL TO ACTION. [23:03] **Director Odom:** IT ENCOURAGES US TO REFLECT ON HOW WE CAN SUPPORT WELLNESS, REDUCE STIGMA AROUND MENTAL HEALTH, AND BUILD ENVIRONMENTS THAT FOSTER BALANCE AND RESILIENCE. IN THE CITY WORKFORCE, WE ARE COMMITTED TO PROMOTING WELL BEING THROUGH RESOURCES LIKE OUR EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WELLNESS INITIATIVES, AND A CULTURE THAT VALUES TIME TO RECHARGE. [23:23] **Director Odom:** AS A PART OF OUR COMMITMENT TO A CULTURE OF WELLNESS, I AM ALSO EXCITED TO SHARE THIS JUNE THE CITY WILL CELEBRATE THE SECOND ANNUAL WELLNESS MONTH. WE WILL BE OFFERING A SERIES OF ACTIVITIES DESIGNED TO HELP CITY EMPLOYEES AND THEIR FAMILIES CONNECT, RECHARGE AND THAT I CAN THEIR WELLNESS PRACTICES TO THE NEXT LEVEL. [23:42] **Director Odom:** FROM MINDFULNESS WORKSHOPS TO FITNESS CHALLENGES TO COMMUNITY EVENTS AND FAMILY RESOURCES, IT'S ALL ABOUT MAKING WELLNESS MORE ACCESSIBLE AND MORE SUSTAINABLE. SO THANK YOU FOR ADVANCING THIS IMPORTANT MESSAGE. LET'S CONTINUE TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE IN RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF MENTAL HEALTH FOR OURSELVES AND THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE. [24:02] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** >> WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? JONI. >> THIS IS OUR 911 DIRECTOR. [24:12] **Joni Hodne (911 Director):** >> THANK YOU. U FIRST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE MAYOR FOR SUPPORTING AND CONTINUING TO SUPPORT THE 911 DISPATCH CENTER IN THE STRESSFUL WORK THEY DO EVERY DAY. [24:23] **Joni Hodne:** OFTEN TIMES EVEN WHEN YOU STEP AWAY FROM THE JOB, PEOPLE WILL ASK YOU, WHAT WAS YOUR MOST STRESSFUL CALL? ISN'T THAT A STRESSFUL JOB? YOU CAN'T DESCRIBE TO A PERSON WHAT THE CALL TAKEERS AND DISPATCHERS GO THROUGH EVERY DAY. [24:40] **Joni Hodne:** I EVERYONE OFTEN THOUGHT ABOUT HOW TO GIVE THE BEST DESCRIPTION TO SOMEONE. AND THE NEXT TIME YOU'RE WATCHING YOUR FAVORITE ACTION-P, CLOSE YOUR EYES. JUST TRY TO B A SOSH WHAT YOU'RE HEARING AND NOT WHAT IS BEING SEEN AND TRY TO DESCRIBE IT TO SOMEBODY. [24:59] **Joni Hodne:** THAT IS WHAT THE CALL TAKERS AND DISPATCHERS DO EVERY DAY FOR LONG SHIFTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL ALL THROUGH THE PROCESS TO KEEP BUILDING THINGS TO HELP EASE THE STRESS ON THE CALL TAKEERS AND THIS ALSO HAPPENS TO BE IN APRIL NATIONAL T [UNINTELLIGIBLE] LECOMMUNICATOR WEEK IS COMING UP AND THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO RECOGNIZE -- THIS IS NATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATOR -- [25:38] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER? JUST BRIEFLY. I SEE AMY FRIEDMAN IS AMONGST YOU AND IT WOULD BE AMISS IF I DIDN'T CALL OUT THAT AMY HAS SPENT THE CAREER BUILDING AND MANAGING AND PROMOTING OUR WELLNESS PROGRAM. SHE IS A TRUE ALLY TO ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS. WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MENTAL WELLNESS AND WELL BEING AND HEALTH, AND CENTRAL TO THAT AND CALL HER OUT WHILE SHE IS STANDING AMONGST YOU. [APPLAUSE] [26:00] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** >> THANK YOU. I THINK MANY UP HERE ON THIS COUNCIL HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF SOME OF YOUR WORK BY SITTING ON A COMMITTEE THAT YOU'VE BEEN LEADING, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE HAVE TO GET IN BETWEEN THE BLACK PIECES OF TAPE FOR A QUICK PHOTO. [29:14] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THANK YOU FOR THOSE PRESENTATIONS. AT THIS TIME I WILL CALL THE REGULAR MEETING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [29:25] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, PRESENT. VETAW PRESENT. ELLISON HERE. KOSKI PRESENT. WONSLEY IS ABSENT. JENKINS PRESENT. PALMISANO PRESENT. CHOWDHURY IS ABSENT. CASHMAN IS ABSENT. OSMAN IS OBSENT. RAINVILLE PRESENT. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI IS ABSENT. PRESIDENT PAYNE, PRESENT. [29:47] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE EIGHT MEMBERS PRESENT. LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, I WANT TO OFFER A FRENTLY REMINDER TO ALL MEMBERS AND STAFF THAT THIS MIESING IS BROADCAST LIVE TO ENABLER GREATER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. [30:11] **Council President Elliott Payne:** THE BROADCAST INCLUDES REAL-TIME CAPTIONING AS A FURTHER METHOD TO INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR PROCEEDINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE, ALL SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE RATE OF THEIR SPEECH SO THAT OUR CAPTIONERS CAN FULLY CAPTURE AND TRANSCRIBE ALL COMMENTS FOR THE BROADCAST. WE ASK ALL SPEAKERS TO MODERATE THE SPEED AND CLARITY OF THEIR COMMENTS. WITH THAT THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S MEETING IS BEFORE US. [30:27] **Council President Elliott Payne:** ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA? NOT SEEING ANY. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA? THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. >> SO MOVED. >> I SAID SECOND. [30:44] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AYE. VETAW, AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOUDHURY, AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. CHUGHTAI AYE. PAYNE AYE. [30:59] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THAT CARRIES AND THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. I WILL NOTE FOR THE RECORD WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS CHOWDHURY, CASHMAN, OSMAN, AND VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. AND WONSLEY. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM IS ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 14. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. [31:30] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [31:47] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 13 AYES. THAT CARRIES AND THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED. FINALLY, WE HAVE THE REFERRAL OF PETITIONS, COMMUNICATIONS AND REPORTS TO PROPER COMMITTEES. MAY THAT I HAVE MOTION? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. [32:06] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [32:20] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 13 AYES. THAT CARRIES AND THOSE MATTERS HAVE BEEN REFERRED. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS PRESENTATIONS OF REPORTS FROM OUR STANDING COMMITTEES. THOSE ARE TAKEN IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER BEGINNING WITH THE REPORT OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, PRESENTED BY CHAIR WONSLEY. [32:43] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD, EXCUSE ME, 21 ITEMS. THE FIRST IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FOR TRAVEL AND LODGING FROM EVERYTOWN FOR GUN SAFETY SUPPORT FUND. THIS ITEM WAS APPROVED AT THE COMMITTEE, BUT WE HAVE SINCE LEARNED THAT THE GIFT ACCEPTANCE IS NO LONGER NECESSARY, SO I AM MOVING TO DELETE THIS ITEM FROM THE AGENDA. [33:03] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** NUMBER 2 IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE CARBON NEUTRAL CITIES ALLIANCE OF REGISTRATION, LODGING AND AIRFARE. THREE IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE BIG CITIES HEALTH COALITION OF LODGING, TRAVEL EXPENSES, AND MEALS. FOUR IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES FOR TRAVEL, LODGING AND MEAL EXPENSES. [33:23] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** FIVE IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY PARTNERSHIP FOR TRAVEL AND LODGING EXPENSES. SIX IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE LINK FOR TICKETS TO THE LINK ELEVATE AND EMPOWER GALA. SEVEN IS A BID FOR MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC WORKS, WATER UTILITY SUPPLIES. [33:39] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** EIGHT IS A BID FOR GREEN STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE RESTORATION PROJECT. NINE IS A BID FOR CIRCULAR COR CORRUGATED TRENCH SHIELDS. 10 IS A CONTRACT WITH DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION, MOVE MINNEAPOLIS, FOR ABC RAMPS, MULTIMODAL OUTREACH PROGRAMS. [34:00] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** 11 IS CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH RESTORATION AND CONSTRUCTION SERVICES LLC FOR PIONEERS AND SOLDIERS MEMORIAL CEMETERY MASONRY PIER REPAIR PROJECT. 12 IS CONTRACTS FOR 2025-2028 CUSTOMIZED SAFETY TRAINING AND TRAINING SERVICES VENDOR POOL. [34:20] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** 13 IS CONTRACT WITH METROBLOOMS DESIGN AND BUILD LLC FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY TREE PLANTING. 14 IS CONTRACT FOR LABOR STANDARDS AND CLAIMS NAVIGATOR SERVICES. [34:35] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** 15 IS LEASE AMENDMENT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM OFFICE SPACE. 16 IS COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT, MINNEAPOLIS BUILDING INSPECTORS, 2025 THROUGH 2027. 17 IS A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT, INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF ELECTRICAL WORKERS LOCAL NUMBER 292, 2025 THROUGH 2027. [34:56] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** 18 IS A LEGAL SETTLEMENT WORKERS' COMPENSATION CLAIM OF SHANE THORN. 19 IS LEGAL SETTLEMENT WORKERS' COMPENSATION CLAIM OF MELISSA ROGERS. 20 IS LEGAL -- 20 IS CONTRACT WITH CORNERSTONE ADVOCACY SERVICES FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIMS ADVOCACY SERVICES. [35:16] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** AND 21 IS CONTRACT WITH CURE VIOLENCE GLOBAL FOR 2025 MINNEAPOLIS U.S. STRATEGIC OUTREACH INITIATIVE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PROVIDER SERVICES. I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL ITEMS EXCEPT ITEM 1, WHICH I WILL MOVE TO DELETE FROM THE AGENDA. [35:37] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** ITEM 19, AND I DO KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 6. [35:45] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE REPORT MINUS ITEM NUMBER 1. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION -- AND 19. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. [36:00] **Council Member LaTrisha Vetaw:** >> THANK YOU, CHAIR PAYNE. I'D LIKE TO AMEND ITEM SIX TO INCLUDE ACCEPTING A DONATION FOR MYSELF AND COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS. [36:19] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW HAS MOVED AN AMENDMENT TO ITEM SIX. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. [36:35] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** >> SO JUST TO CLARIFY, ITEM ONE WAS MOVED BUT MOVED FOR DELETION, CORRECT? >> YES. >> GOT IT. SORRY. [36:43] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> ON ITEM -- THE AMENDMENT FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE AMENDMENT FOR ITEM 6. [36:55] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. WONSLEY AYE. KOSKI AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [37:10] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 13 AYES. THAT CARRIES AND THAT AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. WE HAVE THE REMAINDER OF THE ITEMS INCLUDING THE UNDERLYING AMENDED NUMBER 6, INCLUDING THE DELETION OF ITEM ONE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE AGENDA? >> 19 IS A SEPARATE VOTE. >> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER? SEEING NONE, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [37:38] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [37:55] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 13 AYES. THAT CARRIES AND THOSE ITEMS ARE ADOPTED, INCLUDING THE DELETION OF ITEM NUMBER ONE. NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM 19 AN INDEPENDENT VOTE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM? SEEING NONE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [38:13] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, NO. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY NAY. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, NAY. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [38:32] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 10 AYES AND THREE NAYS. THAT CARRIES AND THE FULL REPORT IS ADOPTED. THE NEXT REPORT FROM THE BUDGET COMMITTEE AND THAT WILL BE PRESENTED BY VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [38:40] **Vice President Aisha Chughtai:** >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE BUDGET COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD ONE ITEM FOR APPROVAL WHICH IS APPROVING THREE APPOINTMENTS TO THE 2025 LOCAL BOARD OF APPEAL AND EQUALIZATION. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. [38:55] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [39:10] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [39:26] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 13 AYES. THAT CARRIES AND THE REPORT IS ADOPTED. NEXT WE WILL HAVE THE REPORT FROM THE BUSINESS, HOUSING AND ZONING COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL BE GIVEN BY THE COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. [39:30] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. BUSINESS, HOUSING AND ZONING COMMITTEE WILL BE BRINGING 17 ITEMS TO TODAY. ITEM 1 IS APPROVING AN EXTENDED HOURS OPERATION LICENSE FOR PIZZA KARMA. ITEM TWO IS APPROVING A LIQUOR LICENSE FOR NOKKO. [39:48] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** ITEM 3 IS APPROVING LIQUOR LICENSE FOR ROSALIA. ITEM FOUR IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING HOST APPROVAL FOR THE ISSUANCE OF BOND FOR WONDERFUL FOUNDATION. 5 IS A PASSAGE OF ORDINANCE RELATED TO PROHIBITING THE USE OF ALGORITHM DEVICES ON RENTAL RATES. [40:10] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** SIX, WHICH ITEM WAS A LICENSE REVOCATION FOR LA CARRETA. HOWEVER, WE HAVE RECEIVED AN UPDATE STAFF HAS RECEIVED THE TAX CLEARANCE LETTER AND THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA TODAY. [40:27] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** 7 IS DENYING A VARIANCE APPEAL TO TIMOTHY BAYLOR FOR THE PROJECT AT 1302 DOUGLAS AND 1716 FREMONT AVENUE. 8 IS APPROVING FIVE LIQUOR LICENSE. NINE IS APPROVING 211 LIQUOR LICENSE RENEWALS. [40:45] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** ITEM 10 IS a PASSAGE OF ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE BUILDING REQUIREMENT FOR FOOD LOCKERS. 11 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING A GUIDELINES FOR CULTURAL BUSINESS WEEK CELEBRATIONS. ITEM 12 IS APPROVING FINANCING FOR 2011 PILLSBURY AVENUE. [41:04] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** 13 IS APPROVING A LOAN FOR PASSAGE COMMUNITY PROJECT AT 17 24th STREET. ITEM 14 IS APPROVING THE MINNEAPOLIS AFFORDABLE RENTAL STABILIZATION GRANT AWARD. ITEM 15 IS AUTHORIZING EXCLUSIVE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS TO NORTHGATE FOR PROPERTY AT 1014 AND 1026 PLYMOUTH AVENUE. [41:27] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** AND 16 IS AUTHORIZING GRANT AGREEMENT FUNDING FOR CANNABIS TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE SERVICES. 17 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE BUSINESS REVITALIZATION PROGRAM IN UPTOWN. LASTLY, RESOLUTION ITEM 18 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING FINANCING FOR SPRINGS MANOR PROJECT. [41:48] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE ALL ITEMS ON THIS AGENDA, AND ALSO I WILL DELETE ITEM 6. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. [42:01] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT INCLUDING THE DELETION OF ITEM NUMBER 6. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. [42:15] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I DO WANT A MOTION FOR ITEMS NUMBER FOUR AND FIVE TO HAVE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND VOTE. [42:26] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY HAS MOVED FOR A SEPARATE VOTE FOR ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE AGENDA? COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS. [42:44] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M HAVING COMPUTER DIFFICULTIES, SO I CAN'T SIGN IN TO SPEAKER MANAGEMENT. BUT I WANTED TO BE RECORDED AS RECUSING MYSELF ON ITEM NUMBER 7. [43:02] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> I THINK THE CLERKS GOT THAT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THESE ITEMS? COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. [43:10] **Council Member Katie Cashman:** >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK STAFF FOR A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY. [43:20] **Council Member Katie Cashman:** FIRST OF ALL, 14, THE AFFORDABLE RENTAL STABILIZATION GRANT AWARDS. THERE IS A GRANT AWARD GOING TO PARIS FOUNDATION WHICH OVERSEES AND CHAMPIONS PARIS HILL, AN INTENTIONAL HOUSING COMMUNITY IN LOWRY HILL THAT SUPPORTS AND EMPOWERS YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED FOSTER CARE TO DEVELOP AND THRIVE. [43:39] **Council Member Katie Cashman:** THIS ORGANIZATION IS A REALLY CRITICAL BRIDGE IN HENNEPIN COUNTY TO INTERRUPT THE FOSTER CARE TO HOMELESSNESS PIPELINE BY SUPPORTING YOUNG PEOPLE AND HELPING THEM LIVE INDEPENDENTLY ALONG THE HENNEPIN AVENUE CORRIDOR IN WARD 7, SO I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR STAFF WHO HAVE RECOGNIZED PARIS HILL FOR THIS FUNDING OPPORTUNITY. [43:57] **Council Member Katie Cashman:** I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE CPED STAFF WHO WORKED SO HARD TO TURN AROUND AND A QUICK TIMELINE RESOURCES FOR BUSINESS DISTRICT SUPPORT GRANTS FOR UPTOWN. SO THIS MONEY IS BECOMING AVAILABLE TO NONPROFITS IN THE UPTOWN AREA TO DO DIFFERENT TYPES OF EVENTS AND ACTIVATIONS. [44:14] **Council Member Katie Cashman:** IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET THIS FUNDING OUT BEFORE THIS SUMMER SO WE CAN SEE A LOT OF GREAT ACTIVATIONS TO BRING MORE FOOT TRAFFIC TO THE SMALL BUSINESSES ALONG HENNEPIN AVENUE AND THANKFUL FOR THEIR WORK DEFINES BOUNDARIES THAT INCLUDED WARD 7 AND WARD 10, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. [44:34] **Council Member Michael Rainville:** >> THANK YOU. I WANTED TO SPEAK BRIEFLY TO ITEM 7. THIS PASSED THROUGH OUR COMMITTEE, AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDED DENYING THIS APPEAL, AND I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPER TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON THAT DEVELOPMENT SO THEY CAN FIND MUTUAL GROUND AND KEEP WORKING WITH OUR STAFF TO SUPPORT THAT. THANK YOU. [44:57] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** >> THANK YOU. I ALSO JUST WANTED TO GIVE A FEW SHOUT OUTS FOR STAFF'S WORK. IN BIHZ WE GET TO SEE OUR STAFF DO THE HARD WORK OF TRYING TO MAKE THE CITY WORK ECONOMICALLY, HOUSING WISE, AFFORDABLY. [45:14] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT WORK. I KNOW EVERY COMMITTEE IS VERY IMPORTANT WORK, BUT I'M PART TOSHL THE WORK WE DO IN THE -- PARTIAL TO THE WORK WE DO IN THE BIHZ COMMITTEE AND STAFF BRINGS TO US. THE GENERAL SHOUT OUT TO CPED AND THEY CAN'T GET ENOUGH PRAISE IN THE WORK THEY DO, ESPECIALLY FROM EVERYTHING FROM BUDGET SHORTFALLS. [45:33] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE ALL THE GOOD WORK WE HAVE DONE ON HOUSING AFFORDABLE IS REALLY FRAGILE. I DON'T THINK WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME CONTENDING WITH HOW FRAGILE OUR HOUSING WORK IS RIGHT NOW, AND OUR STAFF ARE DOING EVERYTHING THAT THEY CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN A REALLY GOOD POSITION, SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT TWO THINGS THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT. [45:52] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** ONE IS JUST THE CULTURAL BUSINESS WEEK CELEBRATIONS. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PLACES THAT -- THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS IN WHICH WE GET TO SEE HOW OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS NOT ONLY SUPPORTED THROUGH DOLLARS AND CENTS BUT HOW IT'S SUPPORTED CULTURALLY. [46:07] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** HOW IT'S SUPPORTED PHILOSOPHICALLY AS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A CITY WANT TO SEE. WE WANT TO SEE BLACK BUSINESS WEEK, LATINO BUSINESS WEEK. WE WANT TO SEE STRONG GUIDELINE. WE WANT TO SEE THE PROGRAMS GROW AND THE PROGRAMS GROW INTO OTHER COMMUNITIES OVER TIME. SO JUST REALLY WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK THEY'VE DONE TO CONTINUE OUR CULTURAL BUSINESS WEEK CELEBRATIONS, AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS I ALSO WANTED TO TOUCH ON I'M GLAD COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN WAS ABLE TO SHOUT OUT THE AFFORDABLE RENTAL STABILIZATION GRANT AWARDS, BUT I ALSO WANT TO REMIND FOLKS THAT THIS FUNDING CAME ABOUT BECAUSE THE OPERATING EXPENSES FOR PRETTY MUCH EVERY SINGLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDER ARE OUTPACING -- THEY CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THEM, RIGHT? [46:51] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** SO WE CREATED THIS FUNDING OPPORTUNITY IFFER -- FOR THAT REASON, BUT WE NEED TO BE TRACKING HOW THEY GET SPENT NOT IN AN OVERSIGHT WAY, BUT TRACKING TO WHAT DEGREE THE DOLLARS ARE HELPING OUR NONPROFIT HOUSING PROVIDERS STAY OPEN, STAY WHOLE, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY ON TOP OF THAT ISSUE. [47:13] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** WE WOULD HATE TO -- I WOULD HATE TO SEE ALL THE WORK WE HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS SORT OF BE UNDONE BECAUSE THE OPERATING EXPENSES ARE SPIRALING OUT OF CONTROL. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO STAY ON TOP OF IT, AND THEN WE START SEEING OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK GET OFFLOADED, GET SOLD TO THE OPEN MARKET. [47:31] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. SIMILAR POINTS TO COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON ABOUT THE MINNEAPOLIS AFFORDABLE RENTAL STABILIZATION PROGRAM. [47:46] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** LITTLE BIT MORE FOR THE PUBLIC, IT'S GOING TO HELP PRESERVE 200 AFFORDABLE UNITING INCLUDING 115 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE TO HOUSE HOLDS AT OR BELOW 30% A.M.I. AND 86 UNITS DEDICATED TO HOUSEHOLDS EXITING HOMELESSNESS, SO THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT WORK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN HERE IN OUR CITY, BUT AGAIN, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON SAID, WE DO NEED TO FIGURE OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TRACKING THIS TO MAKE SURE IT IS WORKING. [48:10] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** PARTICULARLY VERY EXCITED THAT ONE OF THE GRANT AWARDEES IS TO BLOOM LAKE FLATS. I THINK HIS BUILDING THAT I HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH MY COMMUNITY IN WARD 9 FOR A WHILEN'T A SOME OF THE STRESS THAT -- FOR A WHILE ABOUT SOME OF THE STRESS THEY ARE FACING WHEN IT COMES TO THE SERVICES THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE. [48:29] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** HOPEFULLY THIS CAN GET THEM BACK TO A FLOW AS WELL. THANK TO FEEL THE WORK TO CPED THAT THEY ARE DOING, WHICH WILL HELP THESE FOLKS STAY AFLOAT. THANKS. [48:42] **Council Member Aurin Chowdhury:** >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANTED TO JUST QUICK HIGHLIGHT ITEM NUMBER 16, WHICH IS A CANNABIS TECHNICAL ASSISTANT GRANT AGREEMENT. [48:48] **Council Member Aurin Chowdhury:** JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TOOK A MOMENT TO UPLIFT THIS. THIS IS PRETTY EXCITING BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT A NEW AREA OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AS IT COMES TO CANNABIS-RELATED BUSINESS, DISPENSARIES, AS THE FIRST ROUNDS OF LICENSES ARE BEING WORKED ON AT THE STATE LEVEL. [49:10] **Council Member Aurin Chowdhury:** AND WE'RE WORKING ON OUR ZONING. THIS IS JUST A GREAT STEP FORWARD TO ENSURE THAT WORKING PEOPLE AND BIPOC COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN GET THE ASSISTANCE IN MAKING CANNABIS BUSINESSES THRIVE, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AS WE'RE STEPPING INTO THIS TO CONTINUE THE FOCUS ON HAVING LOCAL BUSINESSES BE THE ONES THAT TAKE THIS UP AND NOT LARGE CORPORATIONS THAT WE'RE SEEING THROUGHOUT THE NATION. [49:40] **Vice President Aisha Chughtai:** >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANTED TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 17, THE BUSINESS REVITALIZATION PROGRAMS IN UPTOWN. I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT THESE ARE A COUPLE OF THE ALLOCATIONS THAT WERE MADE THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS TO SUPPORT THE REVITALIZATION OF UPTOWN. [50:13] **Vice President Aisha Chughtai:** AND JOINING IN THE PRAISE FOR OUR STAFF IN THE COMMUNITY PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. THEY'VE WORKED SO QUICKLY TO GET THESE PROGRAMS UP AND RUNNING, AND GET SOME OF THESE RESOURCES OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY. AND JUST REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. [50:34] **Vice President Aisha Chughtai:** I WILL SAY COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH A COUPLE HUNDRED RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE UPTOWN AREA ON MONDAY THIS WEEK. AND REALLY WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS AND CONSTITUENTS IS A DEEP URGENCY FOR THE CITY TO BE A PARTNER AND TO WORK TOGETHER WITH OUR COMMUNITY TO EXPAND EFFORTS, ESTABLISH EFFORTS, TO REVITALIZE UPTOWN, AND WE'RE DEMONSTRATING THAT WE AS A CITY ARE COMMITTED TO THE REVITALIZATION OF UPTOWN. THANK YOU TO THE CPED STAFF AND REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THESE RESOURCES COME TO OUR COMMUNITY. [51:30] **Council Member Katie Cashman:** >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANTED TO NOTE MY RECUSAL FROM ITEM 7. [51:38] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM 10, PASSAGE OF ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE BUILDING REQUIREMENT FOR FOOD LOCKERS. THIS ITEM HAS BEEN IN WORK AND I WANT TO THANK CPED STAFF FOR THEIR HELP. [51:53] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS WILL BE THE FIRST FOOD LOCKERS -- I'M SORRY, FOOD LOCKERS IN MINNESOTA, WHICH WOULD INCREASE ACCESS TO EMERGENCY FOOD FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNABLE TO GET TO THE FOOD SHELF DURING THE REGULAR OPERATING HOURS. WHAT THIS DOES IS MY WARD HAS COMMUNITY EMERGENCY SERVICES, WHICH IS THE LARGEST FOOD SHELF IN THE STATE, AND PEOPLE LINE UP. [52:19] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** AND NOW PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO RESERVE THEIR PICKUP FOR FOOD SHELF. AND THEN COME PICK IT UP DURING THE OFFHOURS. CAN YOU IMAGINE, LIKE, WHEN FOLKS THAT ARE STRUGGLING FOLK THAT ARE STRUGGLING HOURS. CAN YOU IMAGINE, LIKE, FOLKS THAT ARE STRUGGLING WITH CHILD CARE AND SCHOOL AND STRUGGLING TO GET IN LINE AT THE SAME TIME TO GET THEIR FOOD. [52:40] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** THIS WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO PICK UP THEIR FOOD DURING THE OFF HOURS, AND THIS HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL TOOL AND VERY CREATIVE WAY TO REALLY HELP THE COMMUNITY THAT NEED IT THE MOST. AND THIS WORK WAS PUSHED BY SECOND HARVEST AND COMMUNITY EMERGENT SERVICES. [53:01] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> WITH THAT, I AM NOT SEEING ANYBODY ELSE IN CUE. I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE COMMITTEE REPORT MINUS ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE, AND DELETING ITEM 6. [53:24] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN, AYE ON ALL EXCEPT ABSTAIN FROM NUMBER 7. COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [53:50] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 13 AYES ON THE REPORT EXCEPT FOR NUMBER 7, WHICH HAS 11 AYES AND TWO ABSTENTIONS. THE ITEMS CARRY. NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE BOTH SEPARATELY. WE WILL START WITH ITEM FOUR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEM FOUR? VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [54:25] **Vice President Aisha Chughtai:** >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS ITEM AS I HAVE AGAINST OTHER CHARTER SCHOOL BONDS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE THESE -- COME BEFORE THIS BODY. WE OFTEN DON'T SEE THIS, BUT I TYPICALLY VOTE AGAINST THEM AND IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SPECIFIC SCHOOL OR ANY COMMENTARY OR PERSPECTIVES ABOUT THE PROGRAMS THEY ARE RUNNING, BUT IT IS RATHER A PRINCIPLE OPPOSITION IN RECOGNIZING THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS SHOULD BE FINANCING CHARTER SCHOOLS. [54:56] **Vice President Aisha Chughtai:** ESPECIALLY WHEN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM IS EXPERIENCING DRASTIC DIVESTMENT AND SIGNIFICANT BUDGET HOLD, SO JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD. [55:13] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL ON ITEM FOUR. [55:24] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> CHAVEZ, NO. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY NAY. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY NO. CASHMAN NAY. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, NAY. PRESIDENT PAYNE, NAY. [55:41] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE SEVEN AYES AND SIX NAYS. THAT ITEM CARRIES. NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER FIVE. THE RENTAL ALGORITHM ORDINANCE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. [56:01] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. FIRST, I'M EXCITED TO BRING THIS ORDINANCE FORWARD FOR APPROVAL FOR THIS ORDINANCE TO BAN ALGORITHMS THAT USE NONPUBLIC DATA TO ADVISE LANDLORDS ON RENT AND VA CANNILY LEVELS. [56:17] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** MINNEAPOLIS IS OVER 50% -- ON VACANCY LEVELS. MINNEAPOLIS IS 1-7 UNITS IS MANAGED USING RENT TOOL ALGORITHMS. IN THESE UNITS, RENTERS PAY ON AVERAGE ABOUT $312 MORE PER YEAR AND BUILDINGS HAVE EVICTION RATES THAT ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THOSE MANAGED WITHOUT THEM. [56:43] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** BIG CORPORATE LANDLORDS USE IT TO MANIPULATE THE MARK AND ESSENTIALLY EXPLOIT RENTERS. CITIES LIKE SAN FRANCISCO AND PHILADELPHIA HAVE ALREADY BANNED THEM AND WHY THERE'S CURRENT LEGISLATION AT THE MINNESOTA STATE LEGISLATURE TO BAN THEM. [56:59] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** IT IS WHY THE BIDEN DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND MORE THAN 10 ATT ATTORNEY GENERALS ACROSS THE COUNTRY INCLUDING OUR OWN ATTORNEY GENERAL ELLISON ARE SUING ONE OF THE COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE THE ALGORITHMS AND SIX OF THE LARGEST LANDLORDS IN THE COUNTRY THAT USE THE SOFTWARE. [57:16] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** OF THE SIX LANDLORDS THAT'S CURRENTLY USES THE SOFTWARE AND ARE CURRENTLY UNDER THE LAWSUITS BY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, FIVE OF THEM OPERATE RIGHT HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS. AND ONE LANDLORD GRAYSTAR IN PARTICULAR, OPERATES SEVERAL BUILDINGS IN THE UNIVERSITY AREA, THOUGH I KNOW THEY HAVE PROPERTIES ALL ACROSS THE CITY AS WELL. [57:34] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** I WILL NAME STUDENT RENTERS ARE PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE TO EXPLOITATION DUE TO MANY OF THEM BEING FIRST-TIME RENTER, AND ALSO THEY ARE CONSTRAINED FOR NEEDING HOUSING THAT IS CLOSE TO CAMPUS. MANY OF THE RENTERS ARE THUS FORCED TO WORK MULTIPLE JOBS TO PAY THE RENT TO THE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES AND HAVE TO TAKE OUT STUDENT LOANS TO PAY RENT. [58:01] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** THIS IS ONE CLEAR WAY TO PREVENT THE MOST EGREGIOUS PRACTICES THAT LANDLORDS LIKE GRAY STAR ARE USING TO ESSENTIALLY HOUSING INSTABILITY FOR MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS. SO GIVEN THIS CONTEXT, IT'S VERY CLEAR TO ME AND I KNOW MY CO-AUTHORS THAT THIS SOFTWARE HAS NO PLACE IN THE CITY WHERE WE CONSTANTLY ARE CHAMPIONING A HOUSING MARKET THAT IS EXWASABLE AND AFFORDABLE FOR ALL REN -- THAT IS EQUITABLE AND AFFORDABLE FOR ALL RENTERS. [58:32] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** I HOPE THIS WILL EARN SUPPORT OF MY COLLEAGUES AND SPECIFICALLY RECOGNIZING ALL PRACTICES WITHIN OUR HOUSING MARKET THAT IS BEING USED BY LANDLORDS TO EXPLOIT OUR RENTERS. AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF THEM. WITH THAT I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I KNOW MY CO-AUTHORS MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS TO MAKE AS WELL. [59:00] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. >> I WOULD YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON T OTHER AUTHOR. [59:10] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** >> THANK YOU. I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY SAID IT REALLY WELL, BUT I WANTED TO JUST ADD A FEW OTHER POINTS. THERE WAS ONE OF THE FOLKS WHO CAME AND GAVE AND RECEIVED WITH THE SCENARIO THAT SAID, LOOK, IF ALL THE TOP LANDLORDS WERE TO GET IN THE ROOM AND COLLUDE ON WHAT THE RENT SHOULD BE AND THAT WOULD BE ANTITRUST, SO WHY IS IT LEGAL TO HAVE AN ALGORITHM AND BREAK THE LAW ON THEIR BEHALF? [59:39] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** IT'S NOT LEGAL. D.O.J. DIDN'T think IT WAS LEGAL BEFORE THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION. 10 OTHER ATTORNEY GENERALS ACROSS COUNTRY DON'T THINK IT IS LEGAL. THAT IS WHY WE ARE ADDRESSING THIS. WHERE THIS ALGORITHM, WHERE THIS TECHNOLOGY HAS BECOME EXACERBATED, IT HAS WREAKED HAVOC ON RENTERS THERE. [1:00:01] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** WE ARE NOT AT THAT LEVEL OF SCALE YET IN MINNESOTA, BUT IT IS HERE AS NOTED BY MY COLLEAGUE. I THINK WE SHOULD BE WORKING TO BAN THIS TECHNOLOGY NOW UNTIL WE CAN FURTHER UNDERSTAND IT, UNTIL THERE'S BETTER REGULATION TO INSURE THAT ANTITRUST IS NOT VIOLATED, AND I THINK THAT IF WE WAIT UNTIL THIS -- THESE KIND OF TOOLS ARE OCCUPYING 30% OF OUR MARKET, 50% OF OUR MARKET, 70% OF OUR MARKET, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AROUND BEING LIKE, OH MY GOD, WE'RE NOT PROTECTING OUR RENTERS. [1:00:40] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO GET AGGRESSIVE ABOUT THE POLICY, AND IT WILL BE HARD TO ENFORCE THEN. RIGHT NOW DOING EDUCATION IS ON OUR SIDE. WE GET GOOD COMPLIANCE WHEN REGULATORY SERVICES DOES THAT AND WE GET GOOD COMPLIANCE. [1:01:01] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS TO DO IT. WE HAVE A RELATIVELY LOW BARRIER TO CROSS HERE. WE HAVE TENANT ADVOCATES AND TENANTS WHO HAVE DISCOVERED THESE TOOLS, AND I THINK THIS EQUIPS THEM TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES THROUGH PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION SHOULD THEY FACE VIOLATIONS. [1:01:21] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** AND AT LEAST RIGHT NOW, IT WILL BE A LOW BARRIER THING FOR REGULATORY SERVICES TO TAKE ON. THIS WILL NOT BE SOME NEW DIVISION THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE ON. IT WILL NOT BE A WHOLE NEW SET OF F.T.E.s THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE ON IN ORDER TO ENFORCE THIS, AT LEAST FOR NOW. [1:01:39] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** IF WE WAIT FOR THE PROBLEM TO GROW. IF WE WAIT FOR THIS TO BECOME A CANCER WITHIN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA, THEN WE MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION OF WHAT LEVEL OF REGULATORY SERVICES WILL NEED IN THE FUTURE. I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORT THIS. AGAIN, WE ARE AT A STAGE WHERE IT IS SO OBVIOUS AND IT'S NOT GOING TO COST US A WHOLE TON TO ENFORCE THIS. [1:02:16] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I APPRECIATE -- I GREATLY APPRECIATE ATTORNEY GENERALS IN THIS COUNTRY GOING AFTER LARGE PLAYERS ABOUT COLLUSION, BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO HERE. [1:02:34] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** AND I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT BEHIND THIS ORDINANCE. IT'S GOOD. I AGREE RENTS NEED TO BE SET ACCORDING TO MARKET CONDITIONS AND NOT ARTIFICIALLY INFLUENCED BY TECHNOLOGY, BUT I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS, AND I QUESTION IF IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE TYPE OF PROPERTY OWNER YOU ARE GOING AFTER OR EVEN BE ENFORCEABLE. [1:02:55] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** THERE IS NO WAY TO SHOW FROM A PRIVATE ACTION STANDPOINT THAT THIS WAS USED OR NOT. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH BOTH LARGE AND SMALL PORTFOLIO RENTAL PROPERTY OWNERS IN MY WARD AND IN OUR CITY, AND THEY AGREE THAT IF PROHIBITING THE USE OF RENTAL ALGORITHMS MAKES AN IMPACT ON THE WAY THEY SET RENTS AT ALL, IT WILL BE FELT MORE ACUTELY BY THE SMALL OWNER, NOT THE LARGE, OUT OF TOWN, CORPORATE ENTITIES. [1:03:22] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** THESE ARE FOLKS WHO LIVE LOCALLY, AND THEY OWN A COUPLE PROPERTIES TO EARN INCOME, TO BUILD WEALTH. THEY DON'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OR THE EXPERIENCE OR THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES TO INFORM THEY DECISIONS ABOUT SETTING RENT. LARGER PORTFOLIOS ALREADY DO. [1:03:39] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** THEY ALREADY HAVE THOSE DATA POINTS AT THEIR FINGERTIPS. I CAN SEE THE SUPPLY AND MARKET CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED AND NO LONGER SUPPORT THE RENTS THAT THEY'VE SET. OWNERS, PARTICULARLY SMALLER OWNERS, MIGHT BE SLOWER TO ADJUST TO CHANGING MARKET CONDITIONS. I LISTENED TO THE DISCUSSION AT BIHZ AND COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON ADMITTED THAT THESE ALGORITHMS ARE NOT BEING USED PROLIFICALLY IN MINNESOTA YET, AND THE IMPETUS FOR THIS LEGISLATION COMES FROM THE LEGAL OR THE LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS IN OTHER STATES, AND THAT THE AUTHORS HERE WITH THIS INITIATIVE ARE TRYING TO BE PREEMPTIVE. [1:04:23] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** FAIR ENOUGH, BUT THIS SEEMS LIKE A SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST HERE. I AM SKEPTICAL THAT RENTERS ORRED A VOE T -- RENTERS OR ADVOCATES WILL BE ABLE TO TELL WHEN ALGORITHMS ARE BEING USED. [1:04:41] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** GOOD FAITH COMPLIANCE IS GREAT, BUT WE HAVE NO REAL MECHANISMS TO ENFORCE THIS. WE HAVE NO WAY TO ENFORCE THIS, SO I GUESS IT WON'T TAKE STAFF TIME AT LEAST. EDUCATION IS GOOD. THIS IS COMPLAINT BASED. IF SOMEONE IS REPORTED, OUR ENFORCEMENT IS BASICALLY GOING TO ASK THEM IF THEY'RE USING ALGORITHMS TO RE-EDUCATE THEM AND THEN REMIND THEM THAT THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO. [1:05:04] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD HAVE TO ADMIT THAT THEY BROKE THE RULES BEFORE REG SERVICES COULD STAKE ACTION AGAINST THE RENTAL LICENSE. THIS IS ENFORCEMENT DONE ON A WHIM. I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE WHEN THIS WOULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN. I APPRECIATE THIS COMING FORWARD, AND I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT TODAY. THANK YOU. [1:05:24] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. I AM EXCITED TO BRING THIS FORWARD WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY AND COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. I THINK IT'S A PRACTICAL RESOLUTION THAT IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. [1:05:38] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT TWIN CITY RENTERS MANAGE WITH ALGORITHMS PAID ON AVERAGE 324 MORE PER YEAR IN COMMUNITIES THAT WERE NOT MANAGED BY THESE ALGORITHMS. THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY, MONEY THAT RESIDENTS CAN USE TO PAY THE RENT. [1:05:54] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** IT IS MONEY THAT RESIDENTS CAN USE TO PAY FOR THEIR FOODS AND AT A TIME WHEN MANY OF OUR CONSTITUENTS CAN'T AFFORD TO STAY AFLOAT. IT IS IMPORTANT TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE SO RESIDENTS AREN'T FORCED TO PAY MORE ON THEIR RENT TO KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES TO PREVENT DISPLACEMENT, TO PREVENT PEOPLE BEING EVICTED UNJUSTLY. [1:06:26] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** $324 IS A LOT OF MONEY THAT CAN HELP SOMEONE STAY IN THEIR HOME. THAT IS AN ESSENTIAL REASON FOR ME TO WORK ON THIS ORDINANCE WITH THE COLLEAGUES, SO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT COMPONENT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO FORGET WHY WE'RE DOING THIS. WE WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES. THANK YOU. [1:06:45] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANTED TO OFFER SOME CORRECTIVE STATEMENTS TO ONE THAT WAS RAISED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO EARLIER IN REGARDS TO THE ENFORCEMENT AND ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAD A THOROUGH PRESENTATION IN BIHZ. [1:07:05] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** AND I HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEYS AND REGULATORY STAFF, CPED STAFF TO REALLY THINK VERY CLEARLY ABOUT HOW THIS COULD BE ENFORCED. AND THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS THAT HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED FOR THIS POLICY FOUND IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR TENANT PROTECTIONS. [1:07:24] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** IN TERMS OF HOW IT WILL BE ENFORCED, IT WILL BE DONE THROUGH A MECHANISM OF SELF-ATTESTATION, WHICH WILL HAPPEN WHEN A PROPERTY OWNER OR OWNER SEEKS TO VERIFY THE LICENSE AND THEY HAVE TO VERIFY IF THEY ARE USING IT. [1:07:44] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** IT WILL INCLUDE THE COMPLAINT-BASED, WHICH IS USED WITH TENANT SERVICES. AND REGULATORY SERVICES HAS A NUMBER OF TOOLS IN WHICH THEY CAN USE TO PROVE A PROPERTY OWNER TO A DIFFERENT RENTER TIER. [1:08:04] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** THEY COULD EXTEND THE REVOCATION OF THE LICENSE. THERE IS A MULTITUDE OF TOOLS THAT STAFF HAS THOUGHT CLEARLY THROUGH OF HOW THEY CAN ENFORCE THIS AND USING EXISTING RESOURCES AS MY CO-AUTHOR COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON HIGHLIGHTED. I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THERE WAS VERY MUCH THOUGHTFUL ENGAGEMENT DONE AROUND THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE POLICY IN COMBINATION WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN THE CITY AS WELL AS ACROSS THE NATION. [1:08:32] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** ALSO, I WANT TO SECOND AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON'S CONCERNS AND WOULD SAY MANY OF MY RESIDENTS IN MY WARD WOULD DISAGREE THAT THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM. IT IS ABSOLUTELY A PROBLEM FOR THEM AND $312 MEANS A LOT FOR ORDINARY WORKING CLASS PERSON OR SOMEONE WORKING TWO JOBS JUST TO AFFORD THEIR RENT. [1:08:55] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** THAT MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE AND THAT IS HUNDREDS OF RESIDENTS EXPERIENCING THAT REALITY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION AND USE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY. I JUST WANTED TO OFFER SOME OF THOSE CORRECTIONS AND YOU ALL CAN FIND THE PRESENTATION ALSO ON LIMS THAT WAS DONE BY COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON AND ALSO REINFORCED WITH OUR STAFF. [1:09:17] **Vice President Aisha Chughtai:** >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT. REAL BRIEFLY, I WANT TO THANK THE AUTHORS OF THE POLICY AND THE AUTHORS THEY HAD IN CRAFTING IT FOR BRICKING THIS PROPOSAL FORWARD. I BELIEVE IN REVIEWING THE MATERIALS AND THE DISCUSSION AT COMMITTEE ON THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE, I FOUND THAT 1-7 RENTERS IN MINNEAPOLIS IS LIVING IN A UNIT WHERE THE OWNER IS USING ALGORITHMS TO SET THE PRICE OF RENT, RIGHT? [1:10:00] **Vice President Aisha Chughtai:** AND ABOUT HALF THE POPULATION OF MINNEAPOLIS IS RENTERS AND SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 1-7 RENTERS, ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT UPWARDS OF 30,000 PEOPLE. THAT IS NOT A SMALL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN OUR CITY THAT IS IMPACTED BY THIS -- BY THE USE OF THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY, AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ POINTED OUT, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MULTIPLE HUNDREDS DOLLARS MORE BEING PAID BY ABOUT 30,000 OF OUR CONSTITUENT WHO IS LIVE IN THE CITY, RIGHT, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY THE SIZE OF AN ENTIRE WARD. [1:10:18] **Vice President Aisha Chughtai:** THAT'S SIGNIFICANT, AND I'M REALLY GLAD WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE IN IMPACTING OR IN TRYING TO INTERVENE IN THIS PROCESS. I KNOW THE VAST MAJORITY OF MY CONSTITUENTS ARE RENTERS AND THIS IS ABOUT PROTECTING, PROTECTING SO many OF OUR CONSTITUENTS AND HALF THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN OUR CITY IN A PROTIVE MANNER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [1:10:42] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** >> I WANTED TO GIVE JUST ONE LAST POINT ABOUT ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THAT IS AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION, HOW DO WE ENFORCE THIS, RIGHT? I THINK WE LIKE TO IMAGINE ENFORCEMENT AS HAVING MAYBE SOMEBODY'S ARM LIKE IN SOME KIND OF TIE AND CRANK ON THE ARM HARD ENOUGH AND MAKE THEM DO WHAT WE WANT. [1:11:08] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** THAT IS NOT HOW ANY OF OUR ENFORCEMENT WORKS IN THE CITY IN A SERIES OF SCAFFOLDS. WE BUILD ON THE INFORMATION WE GAIN OVER TIME. AND SELF-ATTESTATION MIGHT SOUND LIKE NOTHING UNTIL A LAND LORD LIES AND THAT LIE, ONCE DISCOVERED, STRENGTHENED A PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION. [1:11:29] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** THAT'S NOT FALL AT ALL. THAT'S NOT -- THAT'S SMALL AT ALL. THAT'S NOT NOTHING. THIS IS ABOUT BUILDING TOOLS SO WE CAN START TO STRENGTHEN OUR ABILITY TO ENFORCE THIS. YES, RIGHT OUT THE GATE, DAY ONE, THERE IS GOING TO BE A LEARNING CURVE FOR STAFF. [1:11:45] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** THERE'S GOING TO BE A LEARNING CURVE FOR TENANTS, BUT TENANTS ARE THE ONE WHO IS DISCOVERED THEY WERE IMPACTED BY THE TECHNOLOGIES AND TO SAY THERE IS NO WAY FOR TENANTS TO EVER BE ABLE TO TELL, WELL, HISTORY JUST DOESN'T AFFIRM THAT, RIGHT? HISTORY AFFIRMS THE OPPOSITE. THAT TENANTS ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DISCOVER THEY ARE THE VICTIMS TO THE ANTI-STRUS VIOLATIONS. [1:12:08] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** TO ME I THINK WE'RE BUILDING A SCAFFOLD OF ENFORCEMENT TO ALLOW US TO GET THE INFORMATION. TO ALLOW US TO BUILD ON THAT INFORMATION. THAT IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO BUILD ON INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN ALLOW TENANTS TO LEVERAGE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN ORDER TO HOLD, IN ORDER TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM ADEGREESIVE RENT HIKES. [1:12:47] **Council Member Aurin Chowdhury:** >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK IN AFFIRMATIVE OF THIS AND ALSO SHARE THAT I HAD A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS IN MY WARD REACH OUT IN SUPPORT OF THIS ORDINANCE AND THIS WORK. [1:13:04] **Council Member Aurin Chowdhury:** A LOT OF THOSE CONSTITUENTS HAVE CONNECTED THIS TO WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. WE NO LONGER HAVE A WATCHDOG AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AS IT COMES TO PREVENTING MONOPOLIES AND ALSO THINGS LIKE PRICE FIXING, SO IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS RIGHT NOW TO TAKE ACTION IN OFFENSE TO PROTECT OUR RENTER, BUT ALSO PROTECT THE MARKET. [1:13:29] **Council Member Aurin Chowdhury:** I ALSO THINK THAT IN THINKING ABOUT THIS, OUR CITY IS GOING TO NEED TO BE IN THE FUTURE WHERE WE HAVE STRONGER TENANTS AND THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT GAP, AND THAT IS HOW WE INSURE THAT FOLKS ARE ABLE TO USE THE TOOLS THAT ARE THERE BEFORE THEM. THIS IS A TOOL WE'RE CREATING. DOWN THE LINE, THIS IS FOUNDATIONAL. IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL WAYS TO STRENGTHEN ENFORCEMENT AND WE WOULD LIKE THE CITY OF ENFORCEMENT AND MINNEAPOLIS TO GO UP AGAINST THE CORPORATIONS SHOULD THEY ACT IN A MANNER THAT VIOLATES OUR CODE, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S WORTH EXPLORING, BUT THIS IS VERY TIMELY AND OUR RESIDENTS SEE THE EFFORT WE ARE MAKING, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE THE FEDERAL LEVEL OPENING THE FLOOD GATES FOR BIG TECH TO PROFIT AT THE EXPENSE OF EVERYDAY WORKING PEOPLE. [1:14:30] **Council Member Emily Koski:** >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I HAD A QUESTION MAYBE FOR ONE OF THE AUTHORS ABOUT THE DIFFERENTIATION OR MAYBE WHAT YOU GUYS LEARNED ABOUT -- I'M JUST HEARING CONVERSATIONS AROUND LARGER-SCALE LANDLORDS VERSUS SMALLER MOM AND POP LANDLORDS, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU WOULD NOT DESCRIBE. [1:14:50] **Council Member Emily Koski:** I'M NOT IN THE BIHZ COMMITTEE AND APOLOGIES I WASN'T ABLE TO ASK THAT QUESTION THERE, BUT WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNED AND WHO IS USING THIS TOOL RIGHT NOW? IS IT MOM AND POP OR IS IT JUST THE LARGER? AND JUST DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THOSE TWO. I AM LOOKING AT BOTH COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY AND ELLISON. BOTH OF YOU CAN CHIME IN, WHVR ONE. [1:15:10] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** >> SO ON THE SURFACE VALUE OF THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, IT REALLY IS GETTING AT THE ANTITRUST PIECE. IT DOESN'T DELINEATE BETWEEN LARGE OR SMALL LANDLORDS. AGAIN, THAT IS ON THE ENFORCEMENT ACTION IN TERMS OF WHEN A PROPERTY MANAGER GOES FOR VERIFICATION OF THE LICENSE, THEY WILL HAVE TO VERIFY. [1:15:29] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** WE COULD THEN TRACK THERE, BUT WE DO NO RIGHT NOW IT IS OUR LARGEST CORPORATE LANDLORDS THAT ARE USING THE TECHNOLOGY. COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT HIGHLIGHTED THE ONE IN SEVEN FIGURE. AND AGAIN, ON THE ORDINANCE SERVICE LEVEL IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, NONPUBLIC COMPETITOR DATA IS NOT BEING USED IN ORDER TO FIX RENTS, WHICH IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING AMONG THESE SERVICES. [1:16:01] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** >> IT DOESN'T DELINEATE BETWEEN SMALL OR BIG LANDLORDS. IT IS ABOUT TECHNOLOGY AND A.I. USED AND A.I.-BASED TECHNOLOGY AND ANY WAYS IN WHICH THE TECHNOLOGY IS USED IN A WAY THAT VIOLATES ANTI-TRUST LAWS, THAT IS HOW WE'RE DEFINING WHO WE'RE GOING AFTER IN THIS ORDINANCE. [1:16:21] **Council Member Emily Koski:** >> THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL. AND SOME OF THE OTHER STUDIES AND ATTORNEY GENERALS AND THE D.O.J.. WAS IT PREDOMINANTLY STUDYING THESE LARGER LANDLORDS OR WHERE THEY WERE SEEING VIOLATIONS? OR WAS IT FOR SMALLER LANDLORDS AS WELL ACROSS COUNTRY? [1:16:42] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** >> I THINK THE EXAMPLES WERE MOSTLY LARGER LONDON LORDS AND OWN THE MOST UNITS AND -- >> AND THE RESOURCES TO USE THAT TECHNOLOGY. >> CORRECT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. [1:16:56] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> I'M GOING TO ADD MYSELF TO QUEUE, JUST ONE OF THE POINTS RAISED HERE IS IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT TOO EARLY OR TOO SOON TO START IMPLEMENTING THIS TYPE OF REGULATORY FRAMEWORK, AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS A MOMENT WHERE WE NEED TO TAKE A WAIT AND SEE APPROACH. [1:17:16] **Council President Elliott Payne:** MY FAVORITE QUOTE IS, THE FUTURE'S ALREADY HERE. IT'S NOT JUST EVENLY DISTRIBUTED. SO YOU CAN APPLY THAT QUOTE TO THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, STUDENT HOUSING HAS A LOT OF DEMAND, A LOT OF GEOGRAPHIC CONSTRAINT, AND SO IT IS AN AREA THAT IS GETTING, YOU KNOW, A HIGHER SATURATION OF THESE TYPE OF ALGORITHMS WITHIN THE RENTAL UNITS, COMPARED TO, SAY, MY WARD THAT IS LARGELY DUPLEXES THAT ARE TYPICALLY THE TYPE OF RENTAL UNIT IN MY WARD. [1:17:46] **Council President Elliott Payne:** YOU ARE NOT SEEING THAT IN THE DUPLEX SMALL MOM AND POP LANDLORD, BUT HEAVILY IN THE LARGER, CORPORATELY OWNED BUILDINGS. YOU DON'T NEED TO WAIT AND SEE TO SEE THAT IT IS NOT GOING TO BE FEASIBLE TO MANAGE A RENTAL PROPERTY WITHOUT HAVING THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY IN THE FUTURE. [1:18:04] **Council President Elliott Payne:** YOU DON'T NEED TO DO A LOT OF GUESS WORK TO REALIZE THE EXISTENCE OF MOM AND POP LANDLORDS WILL GO AWAY UNDER THIS PARADIGM BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE FUTURE IS ALREADY HERE. IT'S JUST NOT EVENLY DISTRIBUTED. YOU CAN LOOK AT OTHER INDUSTRIES THAT ARE HEAVILY DRIVEN BY ALGORITHMIC PRICING. [1:18:22] **Council President Elliott Payne:** ONE IS THE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY, AND WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST 10 OR 20 YEARS IS LARGE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS HAVE IMPLEMENTED ALGORITHMS TO LOOK AT BILLING CODES FOR EVERY SINGLE PROCEDURE AND ADD NEW BILLING CODES ONTO A PROCEDURE SO THEY CAN MAXIMIZE THEIR REVENUE. [1:18:42] **Council President Elliott Payne:** AND THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS THAT HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT LEVEL OF SOPHISTICATION, EITHER GO OUT OF BUSINESS OR MORE LIKELY THAN NOT GET ACQUIRED, SO YOU CAN HAVE THAT SCALE OF ALGORITHM TO PRICE ALL THE PROCEDURES. IN KIND, YOU HAVE A COMPETITIVE ALGORITHM THAT THE HEALTH INSURERS USE THAT ARE TRYING TO DETECT THE ALGORITHMIC PRICING THAT HOSPITALS ARE USING. [1:19:04] **Council President Elliott Payne:** IT IS CALLED PAYMENT INTEGRITY. THERE IS AN ENTIRE INDUSTRY SURROUNDING THIS, AND IT IS WARRING ALGORITHMS. ONE IS TRYING TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE AND ONE IS TRYING TO MINIMIZE CLAIMING. WE HAVE SEEN HOW THAT'S PLAYED OUT IN HEADLINES RECENTLY AROUND SOME OF THE REALLY UNETHICAL PRACTICES IN HEALTH CARE. [1:19:22] **Council President Elliott Payne:** I DON'T WANT TO SEE THESE TYPES OF PRACTICING THAT ARE LEADING PEOPLE TO DECLARE PEOPLE LEADING TO MEDICAL BANKRUPTCY AND APPLY IN THE CONTEXT OF AND A.I. IS A FLASHY WORD, BUT IT IS ANOTHER WORD FOR ALGORITHM. [1:19:44] **Council President Elliott Payne:** WE HAVE HAD ALGORITHMS USED IN COMMERCIAL SETTINGS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. WE DON'T NEED TO GES AT WHAT THEIR AIMS ARE OR WHAT THEIR IMPACT IS. WE KNOW AND CAN PROJECT THAT ANY HOUSING PROVIDER IF IT'S NOT USING AN ALGORITHM, IT WILL GET ACQUIRED BY A LARGER ONE AND EVERY RENTAL UNITS WILL BE UNDER ONE LARGE OWNER WHO IS DEPLOYING THESE ALGORITHMS. [1:20:11] **Council President Elliott Payne:** AND I THINK IT'S WISE OF US TO RECOGNIZE THAT REALITY TODAY AND TAKE ACTION ON THAT, SO FOR THAT REASON, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [1:20:25] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO NO. CHOWDHURY AYE. CASHMAN NO. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [1:20:48] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 11 YAYS AND TWO NAY. THAT CARRIES AND THAT IS THE FINAL ITEM ON THE BIHZ REPORT SO ALL ITEMS ARE ADOPTED. NEXT WE HAVE OUR CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. [1:21:07] **Council Member Katie Cashman:** >> WE HAVE NINE ITEMS. ONE IS 24th STREET EAST RESURFACING PROJECT. ITEM TWO IS WATER SERVICE AND TERMINOLOGY REVISIONS ORDINANCE. THREE IS DESIGNATING THE LOCATION, COST ESTIMATES AND EASEMENTS FOR THE 2025 ALLEY REINSTRUCTION PROJECT. [1:21:24] **Council Member Katie Cashman:** ITEM FOUR IS AMENDING THE 2025 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT BY DECREASING APPROPRIATION FOR ALLEY RENOVATION AND INCREASING FOR UNPAVED ALLEY CONSTRUCTION. FIVE IS AUTHORIZING A COOPERATIVE FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND TRAFFIC SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS ON BROADWAY STREET NORTHEAST. [1:21:44] **Council Member Katie Cashman:** SIX IS AUTHORIZING COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY REGIONAL RAILROAD AUTHORITY FOR THE NICOLLET AVENUE BRIDGE OVER THE MIDTOWN GREENWAY. 7 IS CONCURRING WITH THE CITY ENGINEER'S REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE FROM THE STATE AID OPERATIONS RULES FOR 8th STREET SOUTHEAST AND 10th AVENUE SOUTHEAST. [1:22:02] **Council Member Katie Cashman:** 8 IS APPROVING THE CONCEPT LAYOUT FOR THE LOGAN PARK INDUSTRIAL RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. PHASE ONE. NINE IS A PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THE GOLD LINE BUS RAPID TRANSIT EXTENSION PROJECT FROM DOWNTOWN ST. PAUL TO DOWNTOWN MINNEAPOLIS. I WILL MOVE ALL A-- APPROVAL OF ALL THESE ITEMS. [1:22:25] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. [1:22:36] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** >> MR. CHAIR, JUST A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT ITEMS 3 AND 4 RELATED TO ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION. THIS ONE BLOCK BETWEEN COLUMBUS AND PARK AVENUES IS OUR OWN ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT THIS YEAR. OF THE HUNDRED OF MILES AND THOUSANDS OF BLOCKS OF ALLIES, WE ARE WORKING ON ONE BLOCK. I ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE HIGHER PURPOSE NEEDS FOR OUR CAPITAL INVESTMENT FUND, BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT WE'RE HEADED TOWARD A HUGE CLIFF OF FAILING ALLEYS IF WE CAN ONLY CONTINUE AT THE PACE OF ONE PER YEAR. [1:23:12] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** AND THIS IS UNPAVED. THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND I HAVE A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE WHICH WILL RECEIVE A REPORT BACK AT THE NEXT CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE MEETING. IT'S ON APRIL 10. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE ABOUT HOW ALLEYS ARE EVALUATED FOR INCLUSION IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, ESPECIALLY UNPAVED ALLEYS LIKE THIS ONE, AND THEN HOW WE MANAGE THOSE ASSETS. THANK YOU. I JUST NEEDED TO NOTE THAT. [1:23:40] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THANK YOU FOR NOTING THAT. I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON THAT Z A WELL. MY WARD HAS STILL A SMALL NUMBER OF UNPAVED ALLEYS THAT MIGHT BE JUST ME AND YOUR WARDS AT THIS POINT BUT THERE IS DEFINITELY A GREATER NEED FOR ALLEY MAINTENANCE AND CONSTRUCTION BUDGETED AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO LEARNING ABOUT THE ANSWERS FROM OUR LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. [1:24:06] **Council President Elliott Payne:** ONE AREA OF INDUSTRIAL THAT IS GETTING RECONSTRUCTED IS THE LOGAN PARK RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. I'M GRATEFUL TO STAFF FOR SEPARATING OUT THE QUINCY STREET FROM THE OTHER ASPECTS OF THAT PROJECT. THERE WAS STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS AROUND THE TYLER STREET COMPONENT OF THAT RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. [1:24:26] **Council President Elliott Payne:** STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH STAKEHOLDERS ON THAT SIDE OF THE PROJECT. I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY IS HAPPY, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN VERY ACCOMMODATING AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO STAYING ENGAGED WITH THAT COMMUNITY AS CONSTRUCTION GETS UNDERWAY. SO WITH THAT, I'M NOT SEEING ANYBODY ELSE IN QUEUE. SO I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE REPORT. [1:24:55] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS IS ABSENT. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY IS ABSENT. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI IS ABSENT. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [1:25:16] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 10 AYES. THAT CARRIES AND THE REPORT IS ADOPTED. THE NEXT REPORT IS FROM THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [1:25:28] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IS BRINGING FORWARD FOUR ITEMS. ITEM ONE IS CONFIRMING THE CITY CLERK'S APPOINTMENT TO THE POSITION OF THE CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY CLERK. [1:25:37] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** ITEM TWO IS AUTHORIZING FIVE CONTRACTS FOR THE 2025 MINNEAPOLIS US SERVICES. AND THREE IS CONSIDERING A RESOLUTION APPROVING FUNDING FOR VIOLENCE INTERRUPTERS TO CEDAR RIVERSIDE AND ELLIOTT PARK. THIS ITEM WAS SENT FORWARD WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. [1:25:52] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** AND ITEM FOUR IS CONSIDERING A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE RELATED TO VENDORS PROVIDING BALANCE INTERRUPTER SERVICES IN THE ELLIOTT PARK AND CEDAR RIVERSIDE AREAS. THIS WAS SENT FORWARD WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. I MOVE APPROVAL OF ONE AND TWO AND PULL OUT THREE AND FOUR FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT MOVING THIS TOWARDS THE END OF THE AGENDA AS WELL. [1:26:14] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ HAS MOVED ITEMS ONE AND TWO OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THOSE ITEMS? COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. [1:26:28] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** >> SORRY. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE -- ARE WE MOVING TWO FOR A SEPARATE VOTE? >> WE CAN MOVE ITEM TWO FOR A SEPARATE VOTE IF YOU WOULD LIKE. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. [1:26:42] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSION ON ITEM NUMBER ONE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. [1:26:50] **Council Member Katie Cashman:** >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I JUST WANTED TO THANK KELLY GEISSLER FOR ACCEPTING THIS POSITION OF ASSISTANT CITY CLERK AND BRINGING BACK HER TALENTS FROM ROCHESTER AND WELCOME HER TO THE LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT. [1:27:00] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> AN I WOULD ECHO THAT SENTIMENT. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON ITEM ONE. [1:27:12] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS IS ABSENT. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY IS ABSENT. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI IS ABSENT. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [1:27:30] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 10 AYES. THAT CARRIES. AND THAT ITEM IS ADOPTED. [1:27:34] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> A MR. PRESIDENT, IF I COULD JUST FOR A MOMENT INDULGE WHAT THE BODY'S INDULGENCE SAY THANK YOU FOR CONFIRMING MY APPOINTMENT OF MS. GEISSELR. SHE WILL BE AN EXCELLENT ADDITION AND IS GRATE TO FEEL FINALLY KNOW FOR SURE AND SHE WILL BE STARTING IN THE POSITION ON APRIL 7. [APPLAUSE] [1:27:54] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM TWO. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON ITEM TWO? COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. [1:28:16] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** >> THANKS, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT ITEM TWO LARGELY BECAUSE I AM FINALLY SEEING SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT. [1:28:26] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** AND ALSO NOTE IT TOOK AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF OVERSIGHT BY BOTH COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC TO HOLD THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE TO CORRECT PERSISTENT MISMANAGEMENT ISSUES WITHIN THIS DEPARTMENT. AND I CAN TELL THAT OVERSIGHT IS PAYING OFF BECAUSE EARLIER THIS WEEK N.S.D. GAVE A VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION THAT PROVIDED DATA AND MAPPED OUT A CLEAR PLAN ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE CRITICAL SAFETY PROGRAMS. [1:28:53] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** AND DATA AND CLEAR PLANS ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT I WILL NAME IN THAT THE N.Y.U. AND POLICING REPORT NAMED WAS NOT -- WAS NOT HEAVILY UTILIZED IN THIS DEPARTMENT FOR OVER TWO YEARS. AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO ALL OF THE COMMUNITY NEBRASKA -- COMMUNITY MEMBER, CURRENT STAFF IN N.S.D. AND COLLEAGUES WHO CONTINUE TO HOLD A HIGH STANDARD FOR THESE SERVICES AND MAKE IT CLEAR WE ARE NOT GOING TO SETTLE FOR MISMANAGEMENT OF ANY PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAMS. [1:29:25] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** KUDOS TO THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT STAFF. YOU ARE STARTING TO REBUILD CONFIDENCE IN THIS DEPARTMENT, AND ALSO SHOWING A LEVEL OF SERIOUSNESS THAT HAS BEEN LACKING FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND I'M CONFIDENT IF YOU CONTINUE AT THIS PACE THAT RESIDENTS WILL BE ABSOLUTELY SAFER BECAUSE OF IT. SO I JUST WANTED TO NAME THAT. [1:29:45] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** >> MR. CHAIR, I'M PLEASED TO SEE US FINALLY ENTER INTO THIS CONTRACT AND MAKE GOOD ON OUR PROMISE FOR A DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH TO VIOLENCE INTERRUPTION TO SUPPORT TO OUR VENDORS AND REALLY IMPORTANTLY, A WAY TO TRACK RESULTS AND EF EFFECTIVENESS. I BELIEVE THAT IS DUE TO THE LEADERSHIP OF THE PAST, OF TODAY AND A LOT OF CITY STAFF IN THIS ADMINISTRATION. SO THANK YOU. [1:30:16] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. [1:30:25] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY IS ABSENT. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN IS OBSENT. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI IS ABSENT. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. [1:30:50] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 10 AYES. THAT CARRIES AND THAT ITEM IS ADOPTED. COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE RECORDED AS AN AYE ON THE C&I AGENDA? [1:31:04] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** >> YES. >> WITHOUT OBJECTION, MR. CLERK. [1:31:12] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> NEXT, WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER THREE, AND I'LL CALL ON COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. [1:31:18] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS ITEM ON THE END OF THE AGENDA. THERE IS STILL SOME STUFF I'M WORKING ON. THANK YOU. [1:31:28] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> OKAY. I WILL MOVE TO TAKE THIS ITEM UP UNDER UNFINISHED BUSINESS... MR. CLERK? [1:31:35] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> I WOULD SIMPLY SAY WE'LL TAKE IT UP AFTER WE HAVE CONCLUDED ANY UNFINISHED BUSINESS ON THE AGENDA. [1:31:42] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> ALL RIGHT. SOUND GOOD. COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE UP FOUR? >> SAME. >> T A THE END OF THE AGENDA. WE WILL RETURN TO ITEMS THREE AND FOUR ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE REPORTS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE RECORDED AS AN AYE ON THE C&I AGENDA? WERE YOU HERE? WITHOUT OBJECTION. OKAY. [1:32:05] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> MR. CHAIR OR MR. PRESIDENT, TO COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS, WHO WAS ABSENT FOR C.O.W. ONE AND C.O.W. TWO IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE RECORD. [1:32:16] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE RECORDED AS C.O.W. ITEM ONE? APPOINTMENT OF MS. GEISLER. [1:32:40] **Council Member Andrea Jenkins:** >> YAY. >> THANK YOU. [1:32:45] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THE NEXT REPORT IS FROM THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE, WHICH I WILL HAVE VICE CHAIR COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE REPORT. [1:32:48] **Council Member Michael Rainville:** >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. EXCUSE ME. WRONG ONE. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD ONE ITEM. THE 2025 LEGISLATIVE POLICY POSITIONS AMENDMENT, AND I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. [1:33:04] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE I.G.R. COMMITTEE REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [1:33:16] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY IS ABSENT. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI IS ABSENT. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [1:33:38] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 11 AYES. THAT CARRIES AND THE REPORT IS ADOPTED. THE FINAL REPORT WILL BE AUTHORED BY THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [1:33:51] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD FIVE ITEM. ITEM ONE IS PASSAGE OF ORDINANCE AMENDING PROVISIONS RELATED TO REVIEW PANELS FOR THE COMMUNITY COMMISSION ON POLICE OVERSIGHT. TWO IS AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT WITH THE STATE FAIR FOR ADDITIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT DURING THE FAIR. [1:34:08] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** ITEM THREE IS AUTHORIZING THE SUBMITTAL OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO B.C.A. FOR AUTOMOBILE THEFT PREVENTION GRANT. FOUR IS AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT WITH THE B.C.A. FOR THE MINNESOTA HUMAN TRAFFICKING INVESTIGATORS TASK FORCE FULL-TIME ANALYST. FIVE IS AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT WITH THE B.C.A. FOR INVESTIGATOR PARTICIPATION ON THE MINNESOTA HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND INVESTIGATOR TASK FORCE. [1:34:30] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** I MOVE APPROVAL OF THESE ITEMS. AND I WILL BE VOTING NO AGAINST TWO, SO TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE CLERK, I WILL MOVE THAT FOR A SEPARATE VOTE. [1:34:49] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ HAS MOVED THE REPORT, MINUS ITEM TWO. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE ITEMS? NOT SEEING ONE IN QUEUE. AND I WILL ADD MYSELF TO ADD CLARITY TO THE CCPO TEMPORARY PANEL ASSIGNMENT ORDINANCE. THERE WAS SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT INSURING THAT IF WE DO HAVE THESE TEMPORARY PANELISTS ON A PANEL THAT WE MIGHT LOSE THAT CONTINUITY WHEN IT COMES TO POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS IF IT IS A PANEL THAT HAS MADE UP OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS COMMISSIONERS. [1:35:20] **Council President Elliott Payne:** I HAVE SPOKEN WITH BOTH OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND CIVIL RIGHTS DIRECTOR TO INSURE THERE IS A CCPO COMMISSIONER WHO IS PRESENT WITHIN THE REVIEW PANELS AND HAVE TO CONTINUITY OF UNDERSTANDING THE ACTUAL INCIDENCES AS THEY ARE REVIEWING THEM ON THE PANEL AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND GIVE THAT POINT AND CLARITY FOR FEEDBACK. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE REPORT MINUS ITEM TWO. [1:35:58] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY IS ABSENT. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI IS ABSENT. PRESIDENT PAYNE, WAY WAY. [1:36:18] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 11 AYES. THAT ITEM CARRIES AND THOSE ITEMS ARE ADOPTED. NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM TWO. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [1:36:34] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> CHAVEZ NO. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY NAY. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY IS ABSENT. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI IS ABSENT. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [1:36:50] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> NINE YAY YAYS AND TWO NAY. THAT ITEM CARRIES AND THE FULL REPORT IS ADOPTED. THAT COMPLETES THE STANDING REPORTS OF ALL COMMITTEES. THE NEXT ORDINANCE IS NOTICE OF ORDINANCE INTRODUCTIONS. WE HAVE A NOTICE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY WHO IS GIVING NOTICE TO HER INTENT TO INTRODUCE AT THE NEXT MEETING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING APPENDIX J OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCE ADDING FEES RELATED TO CITY-OWNED RESOURCES REFERENCED IN TITLE IX. [1:37:22] **Council President Elliott Payne:** ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS NOTICE? COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. [1:37:30] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. SO JUST A LITTLE CONTEXT WITH THE ORDINANCE ALONGSIDE PRESIDENT PAYNE THAT WILL ENABLE THE CITY TO COLLECT FEES ON THE USE OF CITY RESOURCES BY CITY EMPLOYEES DOING OUTSIDE WORK SUCH AS OFF-DUTY. [1:37:45] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** THIS ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED YOU UNANIMOUSLY AND WILL ALLOW THE CITY TO RECOVER THE COSTS WHEN THEY DO OFF-DUTY WORK. THE LARGE REASON FOR THIS IS TO MAKE SURE TAXPAYERS ARE NOT HAVING TO FOOT THE BILL FOR M.P.D. OFFICER SIDE KICKS. [1:38:08] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** THAT SIDE, THE ORDINANCE IS A TECHNICAL CHANGE TO APPENDIX J WHICH IS A SECTION OF THE CITY CODE THAT OUTLINES WHICH CHAPTERS OF THE CODE INCLUDE REFERENCES TO FEES. THE NEW FEE ON OFF-DUTY MEANS THAT WE NEED TO ADD A NEW LIST OF CHAPTERS, NOT A SUBSTANTIAL ONE, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE RESULTS OF THE ADMINISTRATION'S FEE STUDY SO THAT WE CAN SET THE APPROPRIATE RATE FOR OFF-DUTY FEES TO BE IMPLEMENTED STARTING EARLY NEXT YEAR. JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT CONTEXT. [1:38:42] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, THAT NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN AND NO FURTHER ACTION IS REQUIRED AT THIS TIME. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL CALENDAR. [1:38:58] **Council President Elliott Payne:** WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ TO AMEND THE PRIOR INTRODUCTION OF SUBJECT MATTER OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE PROPERTY SALE GIVEN THE THAT THE REGULAR MEETING ON FEBRUARY 8, 2024, BY REASSIGNING THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO TITLE 16 RELATED TO PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND A NEW CHAPTER FOR 426A. [1:39:13] **Council President Elliott Payne:** AND TO REFER THE MATTER TO THE BUSINESS, HOUSING AND ZONING COMMITTEE. SECOND, A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE WHO MOVES TO INTRODUCE GIVE FIRST READING AND REFER TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND OF ORDINANCES RELATES TO EVENTS AT OUTDOOR STADIUMS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE INTRODUCTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. [1:39:40] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED AS A CO-AUTHOR TO ITEM ONE WHICH IS THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SALE ORDINANCE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [1:39:51] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> GREAT. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE INTRODUCTIONS? >> SO MOVED. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> THAT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [1:40:14] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY IS ABSENT. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI IS ABSENT. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [1:40:35] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 11 AYES. THAT MOTION CARRIES AND THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS RESOLUTIONS. TODAY WE HAVE TWO HONORARY RESOLUTIONS AS PRESENTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THOSE RESOLUTIONS? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> THAT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [1:40:55] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ, AYE. VETAW AYE. ELLISON AYE. KOSKI AYE. WONSLEY AYE. JENKINS AYE. PALMISANO AYE. CHOWDHURY IS ABSENT. CASHMAN AYE. OSMAN AYE. RAINVILLE AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI IS B A SENT. PRESIDENT PAYNE, AYE. [1:41:20] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 11 AYES. THAT CARRIES AND THOSE RESOLUTIONS ARE ADOPTED. OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS A REQUEST FOR CLOSED SESSION. BEFORE I RECOGNIZE THE ATTORNEY AND WE RECESS FOR CLOSED SESSION, I WILL ASK IF THERE ARE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. [1:41:35] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** >> MR. CHAIR, I HAVE BEEN REFLECTING ON WHAT HAPPENED AT OUR COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING EARLIER THIS WEEK, SPECIFICALLY OUR LACK OF ACTION ON THE ORDINANCE THAT TRANSFERS POLICY AND RESEARCH FUNCTIONS FROM THE AUDITOR TO THE CLERK. [1:41:49] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** THAT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO ME. IT WAS INTENDED TO FIX A CONFLICT THAT EXISTS BETWEEN OUR CITY CHARTER AND HOW WE'VE CREATED THOSE COUNCIL SUPPORT FUNCTIONS. OUR CITY ATTORNEY INFORMED US IN A MEMO DATED NOVEMBER 6, LAST YEAR, AND I WENT BACK TO LACK AT IT, THAT THIS PROBLEM EXISTED AND SHE OFFERED A SOLUTION. [1:42:10] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** THAT MEANS WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT THIS PROBLEM FOR MORE THAN FOUR MONTHS. IT'S TAKEN US FOUR-PLUS MONTHS TO RESPOND TO THE FACT THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY POINTED OUT A CONFLICT IN THE CITY CHARTER. AND I'LL REMIND OUR COLLEAGUES THAT WE ALL TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE CITY CHARTER. [1:42:28] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** IT IS OUR DUTY TO UPHOLD THE CITY CHARTER. WHEN I GOT THAT MEMO BACK IN EARLY NOVEMBER, I CONSULTED OUR CITY CLERK. I WAS TOLD THAT COUNCIL LEADERSHIP, NAMELY YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, AND VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI, WERE WORKING ON ADDRESSING THE ISSUE, AND I SHOULD EXPECT SOMETHING TO COME FORWARD VERY SOON. [1:42:48] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MID DECEMBER, RIGHT AROUND THE TIME WE ADOPTED THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. I GAVE IT GRACE. WE WERE GETTING A NEW AUDITOR. BUT EVEN THEN, IT TOOK ALMOST TWO FULL MONTHS BEFORE THAT ORDINANCE WAS EVEN INTRODUCED. WHEN IT WAS, THE ENTIRE DRAFT ORDINANCE WAS CIRCULATED AND POSTED. [1:43:06] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** AND THAT IS KIND OF UNUSUAL. THAT IS NOT VERY COMMON WE HAVE ALL THAT LANGUAGE, SO THIS ENTIRE COUNCIL HAS HAD A LITTLE OVER A MONTH TO REVIEW THAT PROPOSAL AND HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ADDRESSED. THE CHANGE IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT TRANSFERS POLICY RESEARCH AND OVERSIGHT FUNCTIONS FROM THE AUDITOR, WHERE IT SHOULDN'T BE, TO THE CLERK. [1:43:28] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** OUR CITY CLERK, CASEY CARL, GAVE A VERY DETAILED PRESENTATION AT THE COMMITTEE EXPLAINING HOW THOSE WOULD BE INTEGRATED INTO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THAT IT COULD IMPROVE SUPPORT SERVICES FOR THIS COUNCIL. AND I WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS BODY, NOT MYSELF, BUT OTHERS ON THIS BODY, HAVE REGULARLY SAID THAT THEY DON'T HAVE WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS SUFFICIENT SUPPORT. [1:43:48] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** IN FACT, IT'S A REGULAR COMPLAINT FROM THIS DAIS THAT NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE ON THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT BECAUSE OUR STAFF HAVEN'T BEEN TRYING. IT'S BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE TIMELY DECISIONS EVEN WHEN THE CITY ATTORNEY CLEARLY STATES THERE'S A CONFLICT WITH THE CITY CHARTER. [1:44:09] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** EVEN WHEN THE CITY AUDITOR CONCURS AND RECOMMENDS THE FUNCTIONS TO BE TRANSFERRED. EVEN WHEN OUR CITY CLERK EXPLAINS IN EXTRAORDINARY DETAIL HOW THOSE FUNCTIONING COULD BE TRANSFERRED AND IMPROVED. INSTEAD, PRESIDENT PAYNE, THIS BODY PUNTS AND POSTPONES FOR ANOTHER MONTH ANY ACTION. [1:44:29] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT LAST YEAR THERE WAS A PROPOSAL BRIEFLY INTRODUCED DURING BUDGET TO INCREASE OUR OWN AIDES. THAT DIDN'T GO VERY FAR AND FOR GOOD REASON. THE CLERK POINTED OUT IN HIS PRESENTATION THAT OUR AIDES ARE NOT MANDATORY POSITIONS. WE GET TO HAVE THEM AND THEY SUPPORT OUR INDIVIDUAL WORK, BUT THE CITY CHARTER ACTUALLY MANDATES THAT WE CREATE A COUNCIL STAFF TO SUPPORT THIS BODY. [1:44:53] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO. IN THIS FIX THAT WAS PROPOSED WOULD NOT ONLY CORRECT THE CHALLENGE THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY AUDITOR SUPPORT, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW US TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENT TO CROW YATE A COUNCIL STAFF UNDER THE DIRECTION -- TO CREATE A COUNCIL STAFF UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY CLERK. [1:45:11] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** SO AGAIN, WE'VE HAD FOUR-PLUS, MAYBE CLOSER TO FIVE MONTHS TO GET THIS DONE, AND I AM DISAPPOINTING THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS ONCE AGAIN PURSUED DELAY INSTEAD OF ACTION. SO PRESIDENT PAYNE, YOU HAVE BEEN TAKING A WAIT AND SEE APPROACH THAT YOU ACCUSED ME OF IN A PREVIOUS ACTION -- [1:54:31] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> ASCRIBING MOTIVES. [1:45:31] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** >> ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD INSTEAD OF MAKING A DECISION. AND THE SUGGESTION AT COMMITTEE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI THAT WE NEED TO HIRE AN ORGANIZATIONAL DESIGN CONSULTANT TO FURTHER THIS WORK IS A LITTLE BIT UNWARRANTED. IT IS THROWING AWAY MONEY. [1:45:49] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** WE HAVE PROFESSIONAL STAFF CAPABLE OF HANDLING THIS REORGANIZATION. AS A MATTER OF FACT, ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE OFFERED COMPLIMENTS ON MANY OCCASIONS ABOUT THE WORK OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND HOW IT'S AN ESSENTIAL COMPONENT OF THIS CITY ENTERPRISE. [1:46:04] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** THAT'S HOW THE PHRASE NOTHING WORKS WITHOUT THE CLERKS CAME ABOUT. AND I'VE HEARD YOU ALL SAY IT. THAT WORK DOESN'T HAPPEN BY CHANCE. IT HAPPENS BECAUSE OUR CLERK HAS SHOWN THAT HE HAS THE PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE AND VISION TO ORGANIZE AN OFFICE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 10 MORE POSITIONS. [1:46:22] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN THE CLERK'S PLANS TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE CLERK'S OFFICE. HIRING AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TO DO THAT IS A WASTE OF MONEY IN A TIME WHERE FISCAL CHALLENGES ARE LOOMING. WE TALK ABOUT OVERSIGHT. THIS IS NOT GOOD OVERSIGHT. [1:46:37] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** AND IN MY OPINION, THIS WAS NOT A HARD DECISION. THIS ORDINANCE COULD HAVE BEEN A UNANIMOUS DECISION, AND HERE WE ARE POSTPONING THE EASY DECISION, THE RIGHT DECISION FOR YET ANOTHER MONTH. AND EVEN WORSE, WE'RE DELIBERATELY ALLOWING THE CONFLICT IN THE CITY CHARTER TO CONTINUE FOR ANOTHER MONTH. [1:46:57] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** AND I CONSIDER WHAT A DERELICTION OF OUR FUNDAMENTAL DUTY TO UPHOLD THE CITY CHARTER THAT IS. SO I'M DISAPPOINTED, BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BODY'S LAX APPROACH TO UPHOLDING THE CITY CHARTER AND OBEYING THE LAW. AND NOBODY SEEMS TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT. [1:47:14] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** THAT BRINGS ME TO OUR RESOLUTION ON STRESS AWARENESS AND MANAGEMENT TODAY. I NEED TO SAY THAT THIS BODY, PRESIDENT PAYNE, CAUSES ME AND MANY OTHERS STRESS. I WOULD WELCOME A REDUCTION IN STRESS LEVELS GENERATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. [1:47:33] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> I ADDED MYSELF TO QUEUE. FIRST, I WANT TO CORRECT MISSED STATEMENT MISINFORMATION. THERE WAS NO PROPOSAL TO ADD COUNCIL AIDES IN THE BUDGET. THERE WAS A PROPOSAL TO EXTEND PROFESSIONAL STAFF FOR THE LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD SERVE THE ENTIRE BODY. NO INDIVIDUAL AIDES. AND LET'S MAKE SURE WE ARE USING FACTS WHEN WE MAKE ASSERTIONS HERE. [1:48:02] **Council President Elliott Payne:** SECONDLY, AND TO ANSWER THIS AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND CHAIR OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. I TAKE THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE CITY AUDITOR EXTREMELY SERIOUSLY, AND THE FACT OF THE MATER IS THAT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE HAS BEEN NOT IN THE LOOP AS MUCH AS THEY SHOULD BE AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE TYPES OF SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES WHEN IT COMES TO THE ROLE OF CITY AUDITOR. [1:48:21] **Council President Elliott Payne:** I HAVE HAD DIRECT FEEDBACK FROM AUDIT COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACTS THIS IS AND THE WHY BEHIND IT. THEY HAVE HAD NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND BE IN CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS NEW STRUCTURE AND IMPLICATIONS OF THIS STRUCTURE. [1:48:36] **Council President Elliott Payne:** MOST OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE ACTUALLY NEW TO THE BODY, SO THEY'RE ON A LEARNING CURVE JUST IN GENERAL WITH WHAT IT MEANS TO BE HOLDING THESE VERY IMPORTANT ROLES. I'LL ALSO SAY THAT -- I'LL ALSO SAY THAT THIS ASCRIBING OF MOTIVES IS JUST REALLY INAPPROPRIATE WHEN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WE ARE RESPONDING TO RIGHT NOW IS REALLY A RUSH TO CHANGE OUR CITY GOVERNMENT'S STRUCTURE, TRYING TO CHASE AFTER A PROBLEM THAT WAS NOT CLEARLY DEFINED, WITH A PLAN THAT WAS NOT CLEARLY LAID OUT BY OUR CHARTER COMMISSION. [1:49:17] **Council President Elliott Payne:** LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. WE ARE IN REPAIR MODE AROUND A RUSH TO CHANGE TO A STRONG MAYOR SYSTEM WHEN WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF DYSFUNCTION IN THIS INSTITUTION THAT ISN'T RESOLVED BY HAVING A STRONG MAYOR SYSTEM. [1:49:32] **Council President Elliott Payne:** WE HAVE A LOT OF FAILURE OF MANAGEMENT THAT HAS NOT BEEN RESOLVED BY A STRONG MAYOR SYSTEM. SO WE NEED TO BE VERY DILIGENT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THESE CHANGES TO GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE SO THAT WE'RE NOT RUSHING THROUGH TO IMPLEMENT CHANGES THAT ARE CHASING AFTER PROBLEMS THAT ARE NOT UNDERSTOOD WITH SOLUTIONS THAT ARE HALF BAKED. [1:49:53] **Council President Elliott Payne:** AND THE GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE THAT WAS PASSED ON THE BALLOT AMENDMENT WAS A HALF BAKED BALLOT AMENDMENT. THAT'S JUST A FACT. AND -- [1:50:04] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** >> THAT'S ASCRIBING MOTIVE. [1:50:06] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> I'M SORRY. THERE IS -- I AM NOT ASCRIBING MOTIVE TO ANY INDIVIDUAL ACTOR. THERE IS NO INDIVIDUAL THAT IS NAMED IN THAT COMMENTARY. THAT IS A STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS. [1:50:18] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** >> YOU ARE ASCRIBING MOTIVE TO THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THE BALLOT OUT. [1:50:23] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THE STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS IS THAT THERE WAS NO PLAN OF IMPLEMENTATION ON CHANGING OUR GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE. AND THAT WE HAD TO TRY BEFORE YOU BUY IMPLEMENT AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD EFFECTUATE THE MEANING O F THAT CHARTER CHANGE. [1:50:41] **Council President Elliott Payne:** AND THAT IS WHAT THE ORDINANCE DID. WE DID AN OMNIBUS ORDINANCE UNDER OUR LAST TERM TO IMPLEMENT THE CHANGE OF THE CHARTER BECAUSE THOSE CHANGES THAT WERE NEEDED WERE NOT A PART OF THE FUNDAMENTAL, UNDERLYING CHARTER BALLOT QUESTION. SO WE ARE NOW IN A REPAIR MODE, AND WE'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY THROUGH THOSE REPAIRS AND MAKING SURE THAT THE BODY THAT IS MOST IMPORTANT IN THIS DISCUSSION, THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, HAS AN AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN. [1:50:58] **Council President Elliott Payne:** AND I HAVE EXTENDED THE INVITATION TO ALL THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE BRIEFING THAT IS SORELY NEEDED FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND THIS. AND AS IT RELATES TO THE TIMING, YES, WE HAD LEGAL MEMO FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BACK IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR. [1:51:15] **Council President Elliott Payne:** WE GOT A CONCURRING MEMO FROM THE CITY AUDITOR LAST THURSDAY OR FRIDAY. SO THAT IS JUST THE PACE OF CHANGE WHEN WE HAVE SO MUCH CHANGE HAPPENING IN THIS INSTITUTION WHERE WE JUST HAD OUR NEW CITY AUDITOR START NOT MORE THAN A MONTH AGO, AND HE IS ONLY NOW JUST HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY WEIGH IN ON THE SUBSTANCE OF THIS CHARTER CHANGE. AND SO WITH THAT, I THINK IT'S QUITE APPROPRIATE TO ALLOW OUR AUDIT COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO ACTUALLY WEIGH IN ON THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. [1:51:44] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE BODY FOR GIVING US THAT EXTRA TWO CYCLES TO FIGURE THIS OUT. [1:51:55] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THE PREVIOUS CYCLE BEFORE WE STARTED THIS TERM, THE OMNIBUS ORDINANCE WAS RUSHED, AND WE HAVE SEEN COMPLETE DYSFUNCTION FROM THAT ORDINANCE WHERE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO IS IN CHARGE ANYMORE. WE CAN'T TELL WHO LEADS THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY ANYMORE, WHETHER IT'S JUST COMPLETE DYSFUNCTION FROM THE TOP. [1:52:14] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** I THINK IT'S PART OF THE REASON THAT THE PREVIOUS TERM UNDER DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP, WE HAD A RUSHED ORDINANCE WITH NOT ENOUGH TIME THAT HAS LED TO THIS DYSFUNCTION. AND I THINK I WANT TO BE CLEAR, AT THIS TIME THIS MONTH IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME. [1:52:31] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THIS RIGHT. IF THERE'S CHANGES, GREAT. IF THERE ISN'T, GOOD. AT LEAST WE TOOK THAT TIME TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS RIGHT. TO INSURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS. [1:52:46] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** SO I DON'T WANT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PREVIOUS PROCESS WITH THAT GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE OMNIBUS ORDINANCE TO HAVE AN IMPACT IN THIS PROCESS AS WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD UP THIS LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO BE A PART OF. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS RIGHT. I THINK THAT IS GOING TO MAKE THIS A LOT MORE HELPFUL AND MORE SUBSTANTIAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THIS RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. [1:53:07] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** AND NOT HAVING TO GO BACK AND MAKE CHANGES BECAUSE WE GOT IT WRONG. SO I THINK IT'S FINE TO TAKE THAT EXTRA MONTH TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS RIGHT. IT MAKES SENSE. IT'S OUR LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT. WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE THINGS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO GO WELL. IT'S NOT THAT SERIOUS. [1:53:23] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** >> MR. CHAIR, IS THIS LEGISLATIVE DYSFUNCTION? I TAKE THINGS THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY SAYS VERY SERIOUSLY. I'M WELL AWARE OF HOW AUDIT WORKS. I RAN THAT COMMITTEE FOR 10 YEARS. I'M WELL AWARE THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS THAT SHOW OUR AUDITOR IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS CHANGE. LAST TERM WE HAD A CONSENSUS VOTE ON GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE. [1:53:55] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** IT SURE WASN'T MY FAVORITE STRUCTURE, AND IT WASN'T ANYBODY'S FAVORITE STRUCTURE. IT WAS SOMETHING WE COULD ALL LIVE WITH. I NEED -- I DO NOT NEED MY COMMENTS CONSTANTLY CLARIFIED OR REFRAMED BY ANOTHER MEMBER OF THIS BODY. I SAID WHAT I SAID. AND I STAND BY THE THINGS I SAY, AND NOBODY UP HERE HAS A RIGHT TO RE-INTERPRET AND RESTATE MY WORDS CONSTANTLY. I AM -- I HEAR DECORUM. I HEAR ASCRIBING MOTIVE. BUT I DON'T EVER HEAR THAT WHEN PEOPLE STAND UP HERE AND WANT -- SIT UP HERE AND WANT TO ADMONISH THE ADMINISTRATION EVERY SINGLE MEETING. [1:54:36] **Council Member LaTrisha Vetaw:** >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO, I'M FEELING EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE FEELING. I WOULD LOVE US TO -- I THINK I HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE. I WOULD LOVE US TO DEFINE ASCRIBING MOTIVES BECAUSE ONLY USED FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE IN CERTAIN INSTANCES. [1:54:52] **Council Member LaTrisha Vetaw:** AND THE OTHER THING IS I REALLY THOUGHT MAN-SPLAINING WAS CANCELED AND OUT OF STYLE, BUT PRESIDENT PAYNE CONTINUES TO MAN-SPLAIN TO MYSELF ABOUT WHAT HE THINKS THINGS ARE. [1:55:10] **Council Member LaTrisha Vetaw:** YOU STARTED THIS. AS I RECALL PRESIDENT PAYNE, YOU WERE THE ONE THAT WANTED THIS ACTION SIX MONTHS AGO WHEN WE STARTED HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS. YOU AND VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI WERE BRINGING SOMETHING FORWARD. NOW WE GOTTEN A RECOMMENDATION THAT IS SERVING US AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS SOME SORT OF FIGHT TO NOT DO IT, SO THEN THE MAYOR'S ADMINISTRATION CAN BE BLAMED. [1:55:34] **Council Member LaTrisha Vetaw:** THIS IS ON US. THIS IS ONLY HARMING US. THIS POSITION, THIS WORK, THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE TO SERVE US, THE LEGISLATIVE BODY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE WAITING ANOTHER MONTH FOR. YOU JUST SPENT FIVE MINUTES MAN EXPLAINING TO US WHAT YOUR INTERPRETATION WAS ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE MICROMANAGING THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO ME. THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. YOU'RE GETTING INTO THE WEEDS OF WHAT THE CLERK'S RECOMMENDATION IS AND BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT SATISFIED WITH WHAT THE CLERK IS SAYING OR WHATEVER IS HAPPENING, I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY BECAUSE I'M SURE AS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED ASCRIBING MOTIVES BECAUSE I'M SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO THE PRESIDENT AND I WANT TO BE SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO THE PRESIDENT. I MEAN, I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND WHAT WE'RE WAITING A MONTH FOR AND HOW IS THIS NOT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS THE PERSON SITTING ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AND THE PERSON WHO WANTED TO BRING THIS ACTION FORWARD, AND THE PERSON WHO HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER. IT'S BEEN AT LEAST SIX MONTHS. [1:56:43] **Council Member Katie Cashman:** >> THANK YOU PRESIDENT PAYNE, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE PRESIDENT, YOU SHOULD CALL HIM. THIS CONVERSATION IS SUCH A WASTE OF TIME. [1:56:51] **Council Member LaTrisha Vetaw:** >> YOU SHOULD NEVER TELL ME WHO TO TALK TO. I THINK YOU SHOULD MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. [1:56:56] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> DECORUM. [1:56:57] **Council Member LaTrisha Vetaw:** >> DON'T CALL YOURSELF IN QUEUE TO CHECK ME. I DO NOT NEED KATIE CASHMAN TO TELL ME WHAT TO SAY. [1:57:04] **Council Member Katie Cashman:** >> ALL I WANT TO SAY WITH MY TIME IS WE CAN HAVE A PROFESSIONAL CIVIL CONVERSATION ABOUT THE LEGISLATION THAT IS BEFORE US. WE WERE AT THE VERY END OF OUR AGENDA, HAVING JUST FINISHED A VERY QUICK -- [1:57:18] **Council Member LaTrisha Vetaw:** >> AGAIN, I DON'T NEED YOU TO TELL ME ANYTHING. PLEASE DON'T TELL ME ANYTHING. I DON'T NEED YOU TO TELL ME ANYTHING. [1:57:25] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW, PLEASE. SHE CAN SAY WHAT SHE WANTS TO. SHE DOES NOT NEED YOU POLICING HER WORDS. [GAVEL]. [1:57:33] **Council Member Katie Cashman:** >> LISTEN, I JUST WANTED TO GET THROUGH A PRODUCTIVE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE HAD ONE OF THE SHORTEST CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS WE EVER HAD. CAN WE ALL BE RESPECTFUL OF OUR TIME AND THE REASON WE'RE HERE, WHICH IS TO SERVE OUR CONSTITUENTS, NOT TO CREATE DRAMA, TO CREATE NEWS STORIES OR CONFLICT WHERE IT DIDN'T EXIST AND LET'S GET INTO OUR CLOSED SESSION TO TALK ABOUT THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, WHICH IS A PRIORITY FOR ME. [1:57:58] **Council Member LaTrisha Vetaw:** >> THANK YOU MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU FOR RUNNING THE MEETING AND TELLING US WHAT WE SHOULD DO WITH OUR TIME. YOU WON'T TELL HER. YOU CLEARLY WON'T SAY ANYTHING. [1:58:04] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> WITH THAT, WE COMPLETED ALL THE ITEMS ON -- WELL, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS THAT WE WILL TAKE UP AFTER THE CLOSED SESSION. ITEMS NUMBER 3 AND 4 AND NOW I WILL CONSIDER THE REQUEST FOR A CLOSED SESSION, WHICH IS TO RECEIVE A BRIEFING ON THE LITIGATION MATTER LISTED ON THE AGENDA. BEFORE I MOVE TO CLOSE THE MEETING, I WILL ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO READ OUT THE LEGAL BASIS. [1:58:37] **City Attorney Kristyn Anderson:** >> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CASE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA VERSUS THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, DISTRICT COURT NUMBER 25CV00048, YOUR ATTORNEYS WHICH TO DISCUSS WITH THE COUNCIL UPDATES ON LITIGATION UNDER THE MINNESOTA MEETING LAW, SECTION D05, THE COUNCIL MAY CLOSE THE MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION AS PERMITTED BY THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. [1:59:06] **City Attorney Kristyn Anderson:** IN CONSIDERING THE MOTION, THE COUNCIL SHOULD WEIGH THE PUBLIC ON WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING AGAINST THE NEED OF THE CITY TO PRESERVE THE CONFIDENCE Y'ALLTY WITH ITS DISCUSSIONS WITH ITS ATTORNEYS. [1:59:20] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THANK YOU MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. I MOVE TO CLOSE OUR PUBLIC MEETING AS AUTHORIZED UNDER MINNESOTA STATUTE 13D05 FOR THE PURPOSE OF RECEIVING A BRIEFING ON THE LITIGATION MATTER ON THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE VERSUS THE CITY OF MINNESOTA. MAY I HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? >> SECOND. [1:59:40] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON IS ABSENT. KOSKI. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN IS ABSENT. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. [2:00:10] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE NINE AYES. THE BROADCAST OF THIS MEETING WILL CONTINUE AND THE COUNCIL WILL RECONVENE IN PUBLIC AFTER WE CONCLUDED THE CLOSED SESSION. [GAVEL] [2:01:13] [IN CLOSED SESSION] [2:30:15] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THE TIME IS NOW 12:05 AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION FOLLOWING OUR CLOSED SESSION. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL TO PROVE THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. [2:30:26] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI IS ABSENT, COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. PRESENT. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI. PRESENT. PRESIDENT PRESIDENT. PRESENT. [2:30:57] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE HAVE A QUORUM. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MEMBERS THAT MISSED SOME OF OUR VOTES AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET ON THE RECORD. SO I HAVE RECORDED HERE THAT OUR CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE ITEMS 1 AND 2, AND OUR IGR AGENDA ITEM 1. [2:31:21] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> ALSO COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THE PHS AGENDA REPORT AND THE INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL CALENDAR AND THE RESOLUTIONS. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. WOULD VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI AND COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY -- [2:31:43] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> ON THE C&I COMMITTEE REPORT, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY, YOUR VOTE? >> AYE. >> AND VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI. >> AYE. >> THAT'S 13 AYES ON THE CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE REPORT, THE FIRST ITEM FROM THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY YOUR VOTE? [2:32:02] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> AYE. >> AND VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI. >> AYE. >> THERE ARE 13 AYES ON THAT ITEM. THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE REPORT NUMBER 2, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY YOUR VOTE? >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. >> AYE. >> AND VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI. >> AYE. >> I HAVE 13 ON NUMBER 2 AND FROM THE IGR REPORT, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY YOUR VOTE? [2:32:38] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> AYE. >> VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI. >> AYE. >> THERE ARE 13 AYES ON THAT REPORT. ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY REPORT, ITEMS 1, 3, 4, AND 5. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY YOUR VOTE? >> AYE. >> VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI. >> AYE. >> THERE ARE 13 AYES ON THAT REPORT. FROM THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE ITEM NUMBER 2. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY YOUR VOTE? >> AYE. >> VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI. >> NAY. >> THAT PUTS 10 AYES AND 3 NAYS ON THAT ITEM. THE NEXT IS THE INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL CALENDAR, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY YOUR VOTE? [2:33:14] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> AYE. >> VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI. >> AYE. >> 13 ON THAT. ON THE RESOLUTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED TODAY, COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY YOUR VOTE? >> AYE. >> VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI. >> AYE. >> THERE ARE 13 AYES ON THAT. THAT COMPLETES ALL OF THE OUTDATED REPORTS MR. PRESIDENT. [2:33:31] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THANK YOU MR. CLERK. NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP ITEMS NUMBER 3 AND 4 FROM THE COW AGENDA. I SEE WE HAVE A REVISED RESOLUTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT? [2:33:48] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** >> YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COLLEAGUES. I HAVE BEEN BUSY SINCE TUESDAY. I WOULD SAY THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY GOT IT WRONG HERE. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TAKING VIOLENT INSTRUCTORS AWAY FROM THE RIVERSIDE AND ELLIOTT PARK THAT EXISTED LAST FEW YEARS. WE HAVE INVESTED IN THE PAST AND FUNDED THIS PROGRAM TO BE IN THIS AREA AND WE HAVE SEEN THE POSITIVE OUTCOME AND CRIME GOING DOWN. WHILE WE ARE STEPPING BACK FROM PROGRESS THAT WE HAVE MADE, WHEN ASKED THAT QUESTION HERE, I WAS TOLD THAT THE DATA DOESN'T SUPPORT IT BECAUSE THE AREA IS SAFE. THAT'S THE POINT. WE INVESTED, THE AREA IS SAFE. [2:35:04] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** SO, I AM BRINGING THIS RESOLUTION FUNDING THAT AREA AND LET ME JUST SAY THIS. WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY NORTH SIDE INSTRUCTORS, WE WANT TO REMAIN THAT I SUPPORT THAT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY REMAIN IN THAT AREA. IT'S CRUCIAL FOR THESE SERVICES TO EXIST IN THE CITY RIVERSIDE AND TO CONTINUE THE SAFETY OF OUR CITY. SO I AM TAKING THE PUBLIC SAFETY AID BALANCE, $650,000.01 TIME -- ONE TIME FUNDING AND ADDING IT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT VIOLENCE INSTRUCTOR SERVICES. I WILL REALLY APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES UNDERSTANDING THE STRUGGLE AND THE CHALLENGES OF SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE. I WILL TELL YOU AND MY PRESIDENT HAS SHOWN UP HERE TESTIFYING THAT YOU HAVE SEEN THE SUPPORT OF LETTERS THAT ARE COMING FROM PRESIDENT, BUSINESSES, AND INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE PLACED IN THIS, THAT THIS MODEL HAVE WORKED. SO I HOPE TO GET YOUR SUPPORT AND I AM SOMEONE THAT DEEPLY CARES ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE SAFETY OF OUR CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. SO, LET'S MAKE A SMART DECISION AND LET'S HOPE THIS SERVICE REMAINS IN ELLIOTT AND CEDAR RIVERSIDE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT. I WILL MOVE THIS ITEM FORWARD FOR APPROVAL. [2:36:12] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. [2:36:20] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** >> THANK YOU, I JUST WARRANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS AND THANK COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN FOR HEARING THE NORTH SIDE COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, HELPING SORT THIS OUT. I KNOW THAT IT'S REALLY TOUGH FOR SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES TO USE THE SOURCE, BUT I THINK WE GOT TIME TO REMEDY THAT, I THINK, BECAUSE SOME OF THE MONEY IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DEPLOYED UNTIL 2026. SO WE HAVE SOME TIME TO REMEDY THE IMPACT OF THE SOURCE, WHICH IS WHY I THINK IT'S A GOOD USE FOR NOW. WE CAN DEPLOY THESE DOLLARS THIS YEAR. WE CAN SUPPORT THE WORK THAT HAS HAPPENED IN CEDAR RIVERSIDE. I THINK A COUPLE YEARS AGO, EVERYONE WOULD HAVE CONCEDED THAT CITY RIVERSIDE NEEDED THIS SERVICE AND AGREED WITH THAT. WE SHOULDN'T PUNISH AN AREA FOR SUCCESS OF THE SERVICE AND IF WE REMOVE THIS SERVICE WITHOUT FULLY KNOWING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, WE COULD SEE REGRESSION AND THEN WE'RE RIGHT BACK TO SQUARE ONE, WHICH IS WHY I SUPPORT COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN'S MOTION. I SUPPORT THE SOURCE, I SUPPORT THIS DIRECTION. THE NEXT MOTION, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE -- WE'RE GOING TO AFFIRM THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PREVIOUS MONEY IN ZONE 2, SO THAT'S COMING UP FOR THE NEXT -- FOR ITEM NUMBER 4. I JUST WANTED TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES, WHO I KNOW HAD A LOT OF TOUGH CONVERSATIONS IN ORDER TO GET US TO A YES HERE. [2:37:45] **Council Member Michael Rainville:** >> THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE AUTHOR. SO, IS THIS THE FUND WHERE we ALLOCATED $300,000 TO THE 10 BUSINESS DISTRICTS? [2:37:58] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** >> NO. [2:38:00] **Council Member Michael Rainville:** >> OKAY, GREAT, THANK YOU. AND JUST I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS WITH GREAT RELUCTANCE BECAUSE WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT HAVING DATA AND CLEAR PLAN. THIS HAS COME OUT OF THE BLUE, YOU WERE JUST NEGOTIATING THIS IN THE BACK ROOM A HALF HOUR AGO. WE ALSO HAD A COMMENT, YOU WEREN'T HERE FOR THAT, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT THE ISSUE WITH OUR CLERK'S OFFICE AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT WE SHOULD TAKE THE TIME TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT. SO AGAIN, WE'RE NOT REALLY TAKING THE TIME TO DO THIS BECAUSE YOU WERE IN THE BACK ROOM FOR HALF AN HOUR. I WILL VOTE FOR THIS. I JUST HOPE GOING FORWARD, THAT IF THE AREAS IN MY WARD WOULD NOT GET PUNISHED FOR SUCCESS BECAUSE THE ALLOCATIONS FOR THESE NON-ARMED PUBLIC SAFETY IN DOWNTOWN AND THE RIVER FRONT ARE IN DANGER. SO I WILL SUPPORT YOU TODAY BUT I HOPE YOU ALL REMEMBER THIS BECAUSE I DO IT WITH GREAT RELU RELUCTANCE. [2:39:00] **Council Member Aurin Chowdhury:** >> YEAH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. I THINK THE THING THAT FELT REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME IN CONSIDERING THIS ITEM IS WHAT SERVICES CURRENTLY EXIST AND WHAT ARE FORTHCOMING AND PRIORITIZING THAT. I THINK THAT IS A PRAGMATIC APPROACH. WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT SERVICES TO CEDAR RIVERSIDE AND ELLIOTT PARK, BASED OFF OF CONTRACTS, THAT IS SET TO EXPIRE ON MARCH 31st. IT MAKES ME FEEL DEEPLY UNCOMFORTABLE TO NOT HAVE SERVICES IN THIS AREA, ESPECIALLY AS WE ARE HEADING INTO THE WARMER MONTHS. THAT'S WHEN WE KNOW VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY UPTICKS. I THINK WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE SERVICES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED IN THIS AREA VERY SUCCESSFULLY, AND ARE A PART OF INCIDENTS GOING DOWN. SO THE INCIDENTS AREN'T UP AS A METRIC TO SAY THIS IS AN AREA THAT SHOULD SUPPORT SERVICES BUT LIVING IN MINNEAPOLIS, KNOWING THE CEDAR RIVERSIDE COMMUNITY, KNOWING THE ELLIOTT PARK AREA, IT IS REALLY, I BELIEVE, A REAL GAMBLE TO TAKE AWAY SERVICES FROM THESE AREAS WHERE RELATIONSHIPS ARE NEEDED, WHERE CULTURAL COMPETENCY IS NEEDED, AND I JUST DON'T WANT US TO END UP IN A PLACE WHERE IT'S JULY OR AUGUST AND THINGS ARE HAPPENING THAT ARE HARMING COMMUNITY AND WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND THAT HAVE TESTED RELATIONSHIPS TO PREVENT INCIDENTS. I THINK WE OFTENTIMES DON'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE HINDSIGHT. SO, THAT'S WHY I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM. I APPRECIATE US SOURCING FROM THIS AREA RATHER THAN WHAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD PREVIOUSLY BECAUSE THIS IS NOT FUNDING THAT IS ALLOCATED AND WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES HERE IN THE BUDGET CYCLE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. I ALSO WILL CALL OUT AND SAY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH EACH OTHER ABOUT THE AREAS OF OUR CITY THAT CONTINUE TO NEED ATTENTION AND YEAH. I MEAN I HAVE CONSISTENTLY SUPPORTED EFFORTS WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT EFFORTS HERE TODAY, AND THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. [2:41:35] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** >> MR. CHAIR, A QUESTION BECAUSE THIS IS BEFORE ME. I WASN'T INVITED TO CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS BUT I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION BRIEFLY IN THE HALL WITH COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN YESTERDAY. CURE VIOLENCE GLOBAL RECOMMENDED EIGHT GEOGRAPHIC AREAS FOR VIOLENT INTERRUPTION SERVICES AND CEDAR RIVERSIDE WAS THAT ONE OF THEM? YEP, IT WASN'T. IF IT HAD BEEN, I MAY FEEL DIFFERENTLY, BUT IT WASN'T. ARE ALL OF THESE EIGHT SUGGESTED GRID GEOGRAPHIC AREAS BEING COVERED AND NOW WE'RE GOING FURTHER INTO THE PUBLIC SAFETY AID MONEY TO DO THAT? ARE ALL EIGHT OF THEM COVERED? NO. WE HAVE A VENDOR PROVIDING DATA-BACKED RECOMMENDATION. WHAT ARE WE PAYING THEM FOR IF WE DON'T BELIEVE THEM? WE TALK ALL THE TIME ABOUT MAKING OBJECTIVE DECISIONS AND THIS FEELS LIKE IT FLIES IN THE FACE OF THAT. HOW CAN WE SUPPORT THIS KNOWING THERE ARE OTHER GEOGRAPHIC AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS NEEDING SERVICES THAT ARE UNCONTRACTED OR UNFUNDED? [2:42:48] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** PROVIDING SERVICES IN THIS CITY WILL COME TO A STANDSTILL IF WE TOOK WHAT WE WANTED FROM OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS WITH NO REGARDS TO OTHERS IN THE OVERALL HEALTH OF OUR CITY. I TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE NEEDS OF THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, NOT WARD 13 AND YOU ALL DID THE SAME. WARD 6 RECEIVES DIFFERENT TYPES OF PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES BY OTHER MEANS. ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES IS A SAFETY AMBASSADOR PROGRAM. WARD 6 IS NOT GOING WITHOUT SERVICES AND IF THIS MOVES FORWARD TODAY, PERHAPS SOME OF THE OTHER BUDGET ALLOCATIONS USING PUBLIC SAFETY AID FUNDS FROM THE STATE OF MINNESOTA SHOULD GO BACK AND BE RECONSIDERED. I DO SUPPORT, IF IT IS STILL INTACT, THIS LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE TO LOOK AT AND EVALUATE HOW THOSE SERVICES HAVE GONE IN THE CEDAR RIVERSIDE AND ELLIOTT PARK AREA. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO GO AND EVALUATE AND SEE IS THIS IN A DATA DRIVEN WAY? ARE WE GETTING THE OUTCOMES OF WHAT HAS BEEN THERE IN THE PAST? THANK YOU. [2:43:53] **Council Member Katie Cashman:** >> THANK YOU PRESIDENT PAYNE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE WORK TOWARDS MORE SAFETY SERVICES CITYWIDE, NOT LESS. YOU'RE RIGHT, ALL EIGHT OF THE RECOMMENDED AREAS SHOULD HAVE FUNDING AND I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE THAT A GOAL OF OURS TO MAKE SURE ALL EIGHT OF THE RECOMMENDED AREAS DO HAVE FUNDING. WE CANNOT HAVE A SCARCITY MINDSET RIGHT NOW. WE NEED TO KNOW THERE IS ENOUGH FOR SAFETY SERVICES TO GO AROUND AND PEOPLE MOVE THROUGH THE CITY. VIOLENCE MOVES THROUGH THE CITY. WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. ELLIOTT PARK IS A DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT BORDERS MY WARD AND WHAT HAPPENS IN ELLIOTT PARK IMPACTS WARD 7. SO, I THINK THAT WE NEED MORE UNARMED SAFETY SERVICES CITYWIDE. I WILL SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN DID THE WORK IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS TO PULL MONEY FROM A SOURCE THAT DIDN'T IMPACT ANYBODY ELSE'S CURRENT SERVICE LEVELS IN THEIR WARDS. [2:44:50] **Vice President Aisha Chughtai:** >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO JUST THANK COLLEAGUES FOR THE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM ON TUESDAY. I THINK THAT THERE WERE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE LEARNED THROUGHOUT THE DISCUSSION THAT MATTERED TO ALL MEMBERS OR MEMBERS OF THIS BODY. ONE OF THOSE BEING THAT YOU KNOW, ANY TYPE OF FUTURE CUT TO SERVICE TO ZONE 2 IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS AS A RESULT OF USING THOSE RESOURCES FOR THIS AMENDMENT WAS A NON-STARTER. I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THIS AMENDMENT ALLOWS US TO DO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE RESOURCES ARE DEDICATED TO COMING TO NORTH MINNEAPOLIS AND THAT THERE IS A CONTINUATION OF SERVICES THERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. [2:45:45] **Vice President Aisha Chughtai:** NOW, THE SECOND PIECE I THINK WE REALLY HEARD THROUGHOUT THE DISCUSSION WAS YOU KNOW, IT IS IMPORTANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CONTINUE SERVICES IN CEDAR RIVERSIDE, THE SECOND PIECE OF THIS. CEDAR RIVERSIDE, ELLIOTT PARK. YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THROUGHOUT THE DISCUSSION, BOTH TODAY AND AT COW ON TUESDAY AROUND WHAT ZONES WERE RECOMMENDED BY THE CURE VIOLENCE MODEL OR THROUGH THE PARTNERSHIP WITH CARE VIOLENCE, AND WHAT THE CARE VIOLENCE MODEL IS AND MAKING DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER A COUPLE OF UNIQUE PIECES OF THIS. FIRST, THAT THE CARE VIOLENCE MODEL ADVOCATES FOR AND RECOMMENDS A MAINTENANCE APPROACH TO VIOLENCE INTERRUPTION SERVICES, THAT IT IS IMPORTANT WHEN YOU INVEST IN VIOLENCE INTERRUPTION SERVICES IN A GIVEN COMMUNITY AND YOU START TO SEE THEM POSITIVELY IMPACT THE SAFETY IN THAT COMMUNITY, THEN YOU SHOULD CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THOSE SERVICES SO YOU DON'T SEE A REGRESSION LIKE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON WAS REFERENCING EARLIER. [2:47:05] **Vice President Aisha Chughtai:** NOW, THE SECOND IMPORTANT PIECE IN DETERMINING WHERE SERVICES SHOULD GO, CERTAINLY IS THE DATA BASED ON, YOU KNOW, CALLS FOR SERVICE, CERTAIN TYPES OF VIOLENCE THAT IS HAPPENING IN A COMMUNITY. THAT DID HAPPEN. WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT OUR STAFF PRESENTED TO US AND SPOKE ABOUT EXTENSIVELY, ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT FACTORS. AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE CONSIDERATION WHEN DETERMINING WHAT GEOGRAPHIES ARE RECEIVING INVESTMENTS, HOW THOSE ZONES ARE CREATE IN THE FIRST PLACE IS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE UNIQUE CULTURAL NEEDS OF A GIVEN COMMUNITY AND IN THIS CONTEXT, WE TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY AS IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND CURE VIOLENCE RELIES ON SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY ARE WORKING WITH TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THOSE DIFFERENT CULTURAL NEEDS MAY BE, WHAT TYPES OF SERVICES EXIST IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THAT CITY RIGHT NOW, OR THAT COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW, THEIR -- HOW THAT HAS WORKED. THE UNIQUE CULTURAL NEEDS OF MINNEAPOLIS WERE NOT REALLY CONSIDERED AS PART OF DETERMINING THESE ZONES. HAD THEY BEEN CONSIDERED, WHICH AGAIN IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE CURE VIOLENCE MODEL, I THINK IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT WE MAY HAVE SEEN BOTH THIS CONSIDERATION PLUS THE MAINTENANCE CONSIDERATION INCLUDE THE CEDAR RIVERSIDE AND ELLIOTT PARK COMMUNITY AS A PART OF ONE OF THE TOP NEEDED RECOMMENDATIONS. [2:49:04] **Vice President Aisha Chughtai:** NOW, WE CAN'T GO BACK IN TIME AND UNDO THAT OR YOU KNOW, ACCOUNT FOR THAT AND PROJECT WHAT THE OUTCOMES WOULD BE. WHAT WE CAN DO IS BASED ON THE MODEL PRIORITIZE MAINTENANCE APPROACH. BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE MODEL, PRIORITIZE THE UNIQUE CULTURAL NEEDS AND REALITIES WITHIN OUR CITY. I THINK THIS PATH ALLOWS US TO DO THAT. NOW I UNDERSTAND THIS IS TAKING FROM THE COMMUNITY SAFETY CENTER PILOTS ALLOCATION, WHICH YOU KNOW COLLEAGUES MAY REMEMBER WAS ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK JUST LAST SUMMER AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, LITTLE BITS OF THESE RESOURCES HAVE BEEN TAKEN TO INVEST IN SPECIFIC TYPES OF PILOTS AND OTHER NEEDS THAT ARE IN THE SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS AN AMENDMENT, THIS ALLOCATION FIRST CAME TO EXIST AS A RESULT OF AN AMENDMENT BROUGHT FORWARD BY COUNCIL MEMBERS WONSLEY AND CHOWDHURY. I KNOW THERE ARE NO GOOD CHOICES, BUT I UNDERSTAND HOW COMMITTED YOU ARE TO MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY SAFETY CENTER, WHEN IT OPENS, AND THE PROJECTION RIGHT NOW IS IN THE FALL OF 2026 HAS AN ABUNDANCE OF SERVICES BEYOND JUST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH I KNOW IS SOMETHING OUR ADMINISTRATION HAS COMMITTED TO AS WELL AND AS WE CONTINUE, AS THIS YEAR CONTINUES TO UNFOLD, AND THIS BUDGET SEASON UNFOLDS, I LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, OFFER A PARTNERSHIP AND WORK WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DIFFERENT PILOTS AND NEEDS YOU WANT TO SEE ADDRESSED IN THE COMMUNITY SAFETY CENTER IN YOUR COMMUNITY NEEDS TO SEE AT THE NEW SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS COMMUNITY SAFETY CENTER ARE PRIORITIZED AS WELL AND THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. [2:50:50] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> WITH THAT, I SEE NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE. WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER -- COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. [2:50:56] **Council Member Linea Palmisano:** >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. I KNOW THIS IS MY SECOND TIME SPEAKING ON THIS ITEM AND I'LL BE BRIEF. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN SAID WE SHOULDN'T HAVE A SCARCITY MINDSET HERE YET THIS COUNCIL TOOK HALF OF THE MONEY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE. SO FIRST, REFUND THAT MONEY, THEN GO AHEAD AND FIND FUNDING FOR THE 8 PLACES THAT CURE VIOLENCE DATA IDENTIFIED THIS MONEY SHOULD BE USED FOR, AND EVALUATE THIS AND CONSIDER MAKING THIS THE NINTH LOCATION. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE TAKING FROM SAFETY CENTER EFFORTS IN TRYING TO FINALLY MOVE THAT FORWARD. WOULD THAT DELAY THIS? WOULD THAT DELAY OUR COMMUNITY SAFETY CENTER EVEN LONGER? I DON'T WANT ANY DELAYS OR FUNDING SHORTAGES TO STOP PROGRESS THERE. I JUST NEEDED TO STATE THESE TO HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU AS WE TAKE THESE VOTES. [2:52:03] **Council Member Katie Cashman:** >> THANK YOU PRESIDENT PAYNE, ABSOLUTELY I AGREE TO FUND ALL THE CURE VIOLENCE RECOMMENDED SITES, AS WELL AS THIS MAINTENANCE APPROACH THAT OUR COUNCIL MEMBER IS SO ADAMANTLY ADVOCATING FOR, WHICH I THINK IS ADMIRABLE, BUT I WANTED TO ADD THAT MOST OF THE DROP IN THE BUDGET WAS THE MOVE OF BCR TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, SO IT WAS NOT A REDUCTION IN SERVICES, IT WAS A TRANSFER OF FUNDS FROM ONE DEPARTMENT TO THE OTHER TO MAINTAIN THE SERVICE LEVEL. I DON'T WANT ANYONE LISTENING OR READING THIS BROADCAST TO BE CONFUSED. [2:52:40] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** >> I WANT TO NAME THAT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE FUNDINGS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO WAS TALKING ABOUT IS VETO-PROOF EVERY SINGLE TIME. COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO MOVED THAT FUNDING FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT -- NO, FROM OUR OCS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. I ALSO WANTED TO ADD SOME CLARIFICATION IN THIS CONVERSATION, THIS BODY NEARLY TOOK THAT ENTIRE $4 MILLION LAST SUMMER, INCLUDING COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE EXPRESSING CONCERNS ABOUT SAVING THE CENTER NOW AND NEARLY GUTTED AN ENTIRE $4 MILLION OUT OF THE COMMUNITY SAFETY CENTER. [2:53:15] **Council Member Jason Chavez:** IT TOOK SOME OF US IN THIS BODY TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO SAVE THOSE $4 MILLION IN THAT COMMUNITY SAFETY CENTER, BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR. MANY PEOPLE IN THIS BODY TRIED TO TAKE THAT $4 MILLION, SO IT RINGS HALLOW TO HEAR THAT SOMEHOW WE CARE ABOUT THIS CENTER WHEN MEMBERS TOOK THAT VOTE, TRYING TO TAKE THE COMMUNITY CENTER PILOTS AWAY FROM OUR COMMUNITY. WE CAN FIGURE THIS OUT IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET, IT WILL BE FINE. I JUST DON'T LIKE THIS STANDARD ABOUT SOMEHOW A MEMBER WILLING TO TAKE A VOTE ALMOST TO TAKE $4 MILLION AWAY FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND NOW SOMEHOW IT'S AN ISSUE. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. [2:54:02] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** >> THANK YOU PRESIDENT PAYNE. THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR OFFERING SOME OF THE CLARIFICATIONS AROUND THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS REGARDING NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENTS, THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY, IN TERMS OF THE BCR VOTE, I HEARD THAT BE STATED ON THE DIAS MULTIPLE TIMES, THAT VOTE WAS SEPARATE FROM FUNDING STREAMS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT. ADDITIONALLY, I AM APPRECIATIVE WITH MY COLLEAGUES' COMMITMENT TO WORKING WITH MY OFFICE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN REPLENISH THOSE FUNDS SO THE PRECINCT RESIDENTS DO HAVE A BROAD RANGE OF SERVICES OUTSIDE OF JUST ARMED SERVICES IN THAT SITE WHEN IT'S BASICALLY INTENDED TO OPEN IN THE FALL OF 2026. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL ON THAT. [2:54:55] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** ALSO, I AM SO GLAD THAT WE'RE IN A SPACE WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY FULLY FUNDING THESE PROGRAMS. THAT WAS NEVER IN THE CONVERSATION BEFORE AND SO I AM HAPPY TO SEE A SWITCH AND I REALLY HOPE WHEN WE'RE ENTERING INTO OUR PROJECT PROCESS AND EVERYONE SUBMITS THEIR BUDGET PRIORITIES, THAT YOU ALL TALK ABOUT FULLY FUNDING GBI, YGBI, MINNEAPOLIS, AND ALLOW THE INITIATIVES YOU CREDITED TO KEEP YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS SAFE, FOR US TO HAVE ALIGNMENT ON THAT AND TO SEE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS INTO THESE PROGRAMS COME BUDGET SEASON IN DECEMBER. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL ON THAT. [2:55:28] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> NOW SEEING NO ONE LEFT IN QUEUE, WE HAVE ITEMS 3 AND 4. ITEM NUMBER 3 IS A REVISED RESOLUTION FROM OZ. I BELIEVE THIS RESOLUTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY AND ELLISON ARE COMPENDIUM TO THAT, IS THAT CORRECT OR IS THAT SEPARATE? THAT'S WITH THE NUMBER 4. >> YES. >> SO ON ITEM NUMBER 3, THE REVISED RESOLUTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN, THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [2:55:54] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS IS ABSENT, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. [2:56:12] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 11 AYES AND 1 NAY. THAT ITEM CARRIES, NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 4 WHICH IS VENDOR SELECTION FOR ELLIOTT PARK AND CEDAR RIVERSIDE. COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? [2:56:28] **Council Member Jamal Osman:** >> NO, IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU I THINK YOU HAVE A COPY. JUST SOME MORE INFORMATION TO BE REPORTED. THANK YOU. [2:56:34] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> OKAY, THIS IS THE RESOLUTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY AND ELLISON. >> I THINK THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE AND IT'S NOT IN FRONT OF YOU, IT'S IN THE AGENDA PACKET. SO WE DON'T HAVE A SEPARATE PRINTED COPY IN FRONT OF YOU BUT IT IS IN THE PACKET AND IT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT'S A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. [2:56:59] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> OKAY. SO FOR THE WON SLIT AND ELLISON RESOLUTION, THAT IS A SEPARATE VOTE. ON ITEM NUMBER 4, THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE, COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. [2:57:12] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** >> NO, I JUST WANTED A MOTION AFTER WE TAKE THIS VOTE. [2:57:15] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> OKAY. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [2:57:18] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS IS ABSENT, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. [2:57:51] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 12 AYES. THAT ITEM CARRIES. NEXT I RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. [2:57:57] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** >> THANK YOU PRESIDENT PAYNE, THE RESOLUTION I AM MOVING FOR APPROVAL IS TO ESSENTIALLY HAVE COUNCIL EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO RESOLICIT THE MINNEAPOLIS CONTRACT THAT HAD ORIGINALLY BEEN PROPOSED TO COVER AN AREA OF THE NORTH SIDE, SPECIFICALLY OUTLINED AS ZONE 2 IN THE STAFF'S PRESENTATION. WE KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION ORIGINALLY PROPOSED A 6 MINNEAPOLIS CONTRACT, BUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO REQUESTED THAT ONE OF THE CONTRACTS BE RETURNED TO STAFF AND THEN WE CONSIDERED THE 5 INSTEAD. [2:58:33] **Council Member Robin Wonsley:** SO I KNOW WE HEARD LOTS OF CONCERNS ON TUESDAY AROUND, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT ZONE 2 MAINTAINS SERVICES THROUGH THIS PROGRAM AND I KNOW ALSO AND AGREE NORTH SIDE RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR THE MISHAPS OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND SHOULD NOT LOSE SERVICES, SO THAT'S WHY I WORKED WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON TO AUTHOR THIS RESOLUTION, WHICH EXPRESSES SUPPORT FOR THAT RESOLICITATION FOR VIOLENCE INTERRUPTION SERVICES IN ZONE 2. WITH THAT SAID, I ALSO BELIEVE THE RESOLICITATION IS THE BEST WAY TO ENSURE THAT VIOLENCE SERVICES AND RESOURCES ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH A CONTRACT WITH A VENDOR USING THE CURE VIOLENCE MODEL AS WELL AND THAT WILL HAVE A TRANSPARENT, VETTED PROCUREMENT AND RFP PROCESS TO GET THERE. SO I'M JUST OFFERING THAT CONCEPT AND I WILL PASS IT TO COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. [2:59:22] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** >> THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL MY COLLEAGUES WERE INVOLVED AGAIN IN THIS DISCUSSION. YOU KNOW, IT'S COMPLICATED. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY THAT NEEDS THESE SERVICES ARE GETTING THESE SERVICES AND WE DON'T GET IT 100% RIGHT, BUT I THINK 6 OUT OF 8 IS A GREAT START. I THINK THE CONVERSATION WE HAVE AROUND CULTURAL COMPETENCY AND CORRIDORS WHO NEED THESE SERVICES IS A NEEDED ONE AND IT'S A VALID CONVERSATION FOR US TO BE HAVING. [3:00:10] **Council Member Jeremiah Ellison:** I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY IN BEING WILLING TO AFFIRM AND RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR ZONE 2 TO MAINTAIN COVERAGE. I KNOW WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION REQUESTED THAT THE CONTRACT FOR ZONE 2 BE PULLED FOR FURTHER REVIEW, THAT WAS NOT -- THE INTENTION WAS NOT THAT ZONE 2 WOULD LOSE THOSE SERVICES. THE ADMIN IS STILL HAS THAT CONTRACT UNDER REVIEW, THAT'S THEIR PROCESS. BASED ON THE INFORMATION WE KNOW PUBLICLY, THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE FEEL WE SHOULD GO IN AND I WANT TO ENSURE THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE ADMIN DECIDES, THAT THESE DOLLARS DON'T GET REDISTRIBUTED TO SELECTED ZONES, MAKE SURE THAT ZONE 2 IS AFFIRMED TO HAVE COVERAGE UNDER THIS PROGRAM, AND WHILE THIS ISN'T BINDING TO THE ADMIN, WE KNOW THAT, I THINK WE ALL HAVE WITNESSED HOW THINGS HAVE UNFOLDED ENOUGH TO SAY HEY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ZONE 2 HAS COVERAGE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER GETS THE CONTRACT HAS -- DOESN'T HAVE QUESTION MARKS ABOUT THEIR ABILITY TO DELIVER THOSE SERVICES AND WE THINK RESOLICITING THE CONTRACT IS THE BEST PATHWAY FORWARD. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AND AGAIN THANK MY COLLEAGUES. OBVIOUSLY, THANKS COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW AS WELL FOR ALL THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD ABOUT THESE SERVICES BEING NEEDED AND REMAINING ON THE NORTH SIDE. [3:01:31] **Council Member LaTrisha Vetaw:** >> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON FOR THIS. TUESDAY WHEN YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO WORK IT OUT, I WASN'T SURE THAT IT WOULD BE WORKED OUT IN 48 HOURS. I AM FEELING GOOD ABOUT IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE NEED THESE SERVICES. IT'S IMPERATIVE WE HAVE THESE SERVICES. I REALLY DO think THAT THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE PLEASED WITH US FIGURING THIS OUT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY FOR CO AUTHORING THIS AND ALSO TO YOU COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN FOR FIGURING OUT A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET WHAT YOU NEED. I WILL BE COMING SOON WITH A WAY TO FIGURE OUT FOR 35th TO GET FUNDED. IT WAS NOT IN THE ZONES BUT IT NEEDS TO BE COVERED. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE BLUEPRINT ON HOW TO GET THAT DONE. IT'S COMING TO A DIAS TO YOU SOON. THESE ARE SERVICES AND JOBS THAT ARE NEEDED ON THE NORTH SIDE AND PEOPLE WILL BE GRATEFUL THIS COUNCIL CAME TOGETHER AND FIGURED THIS OUT FOR NORTH MINNEAPOLIS. THANK YOU. [3:02:40] **Council Member Michael Rainville:** >> I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE FOR COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON AND COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY AND WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW FOR FIGURING THIS OUT SO WE DON'T LEAVE OUR NORTH SIDE NEIGHBORS BEHIND. [3:02:50] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> WITH THAT, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE RESOLUTION. [3:02:54] **City Clerk Casey Carl:** >> COUNCIL MEMBER CHAVEZ. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER KOSKI. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER WONSLEY. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER JENKINS IS ABSENT, COUNCIL MEMBER PALMISANO. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CASHMAN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER OSMAN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER RAINVILLE. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGTAI. AYE. PRESIDENT PAYNE. AYE. [3:03:15] **Council President Elliott Payne:** >> THERE ARE 12 AYES. THAT CARRIES AND THE FULL COW REPORT IS UPDATED. WITH THAT, WE COMPLETED ALL ITEMS BEFORE US AND WITHOUT FOURTH OBJECTION, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. [GAVEL]