>>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED. BANG THE GAVEL THERE. THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING OF THE 26th COUNCIL. IT WILL COME TO ORDER. ROLL CALL, ALL COUNCILLORS ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING. AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE MOMENT OF SILENCE AND I ASKED COUNCILOR BACA TO LEAD US IN SPANISH AND COUNCILOR CHAMPINE TO LEAD IN ENGLISH. WILL YOU STAND WITH ME? >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. CIVIC PLAZA PARKING PASSES ARE PROVIDED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. YOU CAN OBTAIN A PARKING PASS FROM COUNCIL STAFF AT THE TABLE NEAR THE CHAMBER ENTRANCE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CITY STAFF AND THE MEDIA HAVE THE ABILITY TO TO VIEW THIS MEET IN PERSON AND ON LIVE STREAM THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. GOVTV ON COMCAST CHANNEL 16. THE GOVTV WEBSITE. YOU TUBE, AND ZOOM WEBINAR. THE LIVE STREAMS CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST SMART PHONES TABLETS OR COMPUTERS. ALSO THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED AND YOU CAN ENABLE THOSE SERVICES ON YOUR TELEVISION OR DEVICE AT THIS TIME. THE VIDEO RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING AT ANY TIME ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. COUNCIL STAFF IS AVAILABLE VIA TELEPHONE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED ASSISTANCE FINDING THE VIDEOS ONLINE. PLEASE CALL 505-768-3100 FOR ASSISTANCE DURING BUSINESS HOURS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 8 TO 5 P.M. THE COUNCIL WILL TAKE A BREAK AT APPROXIMATELY 7 P.M. IF NEEDED. WITH REGARD TO DEORM, WE WANT TONIGHT'S PROCEEDINGS TO BE AS CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL AS POSSIBLE. PLEASE DON'T MAKE ANY PERSONAL ATTACKS AND NO APPLAUSE OR OTHER OUTBURSTING DURING THE MEETING. THE MEET WILL GO SMOOTHER IF WE'RE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER. AT THIS TIME, WE DON'T HAVE PROCLAMATIONS OR PRESENTATIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS TO THE AGENDA AT THIS TIME. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE UP A FEW THINGS. SO, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ACCEPT NOMINATIONS FOR PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: I WOULD LIKE TO ELECT COUNCILOR LEWIS FOR COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >>COUN. GROUT: ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? OKAY. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER NOMINATIONS, WE CAN ELECT HIM BY -- WE NEED A MOTION TO DO THAT. ACTUALLY, YOU'LL HAVE TO TAKE ROLL CALL, CORRECT? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COUNCILOR LEWIS PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. SAY AYE. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES WITH ONE ABSTENTION. WITH ONE NO. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS SIR. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL GO TO VICE-PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: I MOVE -- >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE YOU FOR VICE-PRESIDENT. >>COUN. GROUT: OTHER NOMINATIONS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HOOND -- HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CHAIR. ANY NOMINATIONS FOR THAT? COUNCILOR BACA. >> I'M SORRY, WE COULDN'T HEAR YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR MICROFOEP -- MICROPHONE IS TURNED ON. >>COUN. BACA: I RECOMMEND COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. GROUT: ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. CONGRATULATIONS. VERY GOOD. MR. PRESIDENT, AT THIS TIME, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE OVER? >>COUN. LEWIS: IF YOU'LL LEAD THE REST OF THE MEETING, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE ON TO -- WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ADMIN QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. OH, DEFER IT? LET'S DO THAT. THAT WOULD BE -- ALL RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE RULES BE SUSPEND FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEFERRING THE APPROVAL OF COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS TO THE JANUARY 22nd COUNCIL MEETING. AND THE CURRENT MAKE-UP OF THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE REMAIN IN PLACE UNTIL THE NEW COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS ARE APPROVED. WE'LL NEED A SECOND. OKAY, THERE'S SECOND BY COUNCILOR LEWIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR -- WE'LL NEED A TWO-THIRDS VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. LET'S GO BACK TO QUESTION AND ANSWER FOR ADMIN. I THINK COUNCILOR BASSAN HAD SOME QUESTIONS. >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT -- >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. CAN WE GET AN UPDATE REGARDING THE USS IS ALBUQUERQUE. I HAD CONSTITUENTS REGARDING THAT. I HOPE YOU HAVE AN UPDATE TO SHARE WITH THAT. >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR BASSAN, DAVE SIMON WAS PREPARING TO PROVIDE THAT UPDATE. LET ME SEE -- HE'S NOT HERE. WE'LL CALL DAVE, IF YOU DON'T MIND. WE'LL BRING HIM BACK AROUND. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'LL ASK MY OTHER QUESTIONS. AND CIRCLE BACK. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. I HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE REACH OUT REGARDING HEATIN -- MANY OF WHICH ARE GETTING FRUSTRATED. I KNOW APD IS DOING THE BEST THEY CAN DO. FOR NOW. WE NEED MORE OFFICERS. THEY'RE GETTING FRUSTRATED WHEN I SAY WHAT I JUST SAID. WHAT AM I SUPPOSE -- WHAT ARE WE AS A COUNCIL ONE WE HAVE PEACH -- PEOPLE REACHING OUT REGARDING SPEEDING IN NEIGHBORHOODS. WHAT CAN BE DONE? WHAT CAN THEY DO? WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP TO REDUCE THAT? >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR BASSAN, DEPUTY CHIEF SMATHERS IS HERE TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION. I THINK IT WILL BE GREAT TO HEAR FROM APD AS TO HOW WE CAN ATTEMPT TO SUPPORT INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY REGARDING THIS. I HEAR THEM AS WELL. >> GOOD EVENING, HAPPY NEW YEAR. I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU. CONGRATULATIONSES TO THE NEW COUNCILORS AS WELL. WEEKLY, APD HAS SPEEDING ATTACK PLANS CITY WIDE RAN BY THE TRAFFIC UNIT. AND THEY FOCUS ON HIGH INJURY TRAFFIC CRASH LOCATIONS AND ALSO HIGH FATALITY LOCATIONS. ALSO WEEKLY AREA COMMAND PLAN IS IS FORMULATED AND EXECUTED SO ONE AREA COMMAND AT A TIME PER WEEK. AND WE GET INDIVIDUAL CONSTITUENT OR CITIZEN COMPLAINTS THAT ARE ALSO FED INTO OUR TASKING LIST AS WELL. THAT IS ALWAYS ONGOING ALL THROUGHOUT EACH PARTICULAR WEEK. THE TRAFFIC UNIT ITSELF WROTE 56,000 CITATIONS LAST YEAR. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REALLY 25 PEOPLE WROTE 56,000 CITATIONS. THAT'S UP FROM 22 AND OVER 21. AND THE DEPARTMENT WROTE A LITTLE OVER 78,000 CITATION FOR THE QUEER. THE YEAR. TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT IS UP. WE APPRECIATE THERE'S STILL SPEEDING POOR DRIVING IN THE CITY. THERE'S AN UPTICK IN COVID -- DURING COVID. WE UTILIZE THE SPEED ENFORCEMENT CAMERAS AS A PART OF THE COMPONENT. WE WEIGH IN AND PROVIDE CASH DATA TO VISION ZERO WHEN THEY FORMULATE WHERE THE CAMERAS ARE GOING TO BE. THAT'S A LAYERED APPROACH TO ALLOW CITATIONS TO BE ISSUED WITHOUT A UNIFORMED OFFICER BEING PRESENT. AND THE TRAFFIC UNIT WILL FOLLOW ON HIGH AREAS. WE'LL PLACE OFFICERS TO DO LIVE ENFORCEMENT. WHICH CAN HAVE A MUCH HIGHER SANCTION PARTICULARLY UP TO AN ARREST. CERTAINLY MANDATORY COURT APPEARANCES AND SANCTIONS BEYOND THE $100 CIVIL PENALTY. I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CONTACT US DIRECTLY TO FILE A COMPLAINT OF SPEEDING. THEY CAN FILE IT THROUGH 311 ALSO ASK THEM TO CALL AREA COMMAND AS WELL. THOSE ARE FED TO US AND WE COORDINATE THE RESPONSES THAT I DESCRIBED. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. SO, FOR US, FOR MYSELF INCLUDED, WHEN I GET EMAIL AND TEXT MESSAGES IT'S BEST TO GO TO MY AREA COMMAND FOR THAT? >> YES. BECAUSE WE REGULARLY COMMUNICATE WITH THEM WEEKLY. EACH AREA COMMANDER SHARES PROBLEATIC LOCATIONS OR ISSUES THEY MAY HEAR FROM AN INDIVIDUAL. WE KNOW THE PRIMARY HOT SPOTS. BUT THERE MAY BE AN ISSUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. A NEW PROBLEM ARISEN THAT MAY MAY NOT HAVE ON THE RADAR. THEY HAVE CLOSER RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE INDIVIDUAL AREA COMMANDS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, WHILE WE'RE ON WITH APD, I'LL CONTINUE WITH SOME OF MY OTHER QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO BE TO YOU OR NOT. D.C., WHAT IS THE CITY LAW REGARDING OPEN DRUG USE IN ALBUQUERQUE? >> I'LL ASK FOR A -- YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL PERHAPS USING FENTANYL? LIKE AN INDIVIDUAL -- >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE. PARTICULARLY THE ONE I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT. TO ME, I DRIVE AROUND WITH MY KIDS, I KNOW I TALKED TO MY COLLEAGUE, PEOPLE ARE OPENLY DOING DRUGS. WHETHER IT BE AT ENCAMPMENTS OR BUS STOMS -- STOPS. ANYWHERE. WHAT IS THE LAW? >> I MEAN, THERE'S NO AMOUNT OF FENTANYL THAT WOULD BE NOT A FELONY TO POSSESS OR USE. LET'S SAY FOR A LOW LEVEL FENTANYL USER, JUST INDIVIDUAL PERSONAL POSSESSION OF FENTANYL THE OFFICER CAN MAKE AN ON SCENE ARREST. FILE A COMPLAINT FOR LATER PROSECUTION. IF IT IS IS A NON-TRAFFICKING AMOUNT. THEY CAN BE REFERRED TO THE LEADS PROGRAM OR DIVERSION PROGRAM IF THEY'RE WILLING. OFFICERS DO HAVE DISCRETION AND DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT MIGHT PRESENT THEMSELVES TO THE OFFICER. WE TRY TO COORDINATE THAT WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THEY'RE JUGGLING THEIR CASE LOAD ABOUT WHAT WE PROSECUTE. OFFICERS MAKE LOT OF WHAT WE WOULD CALL LOW LEVEL, I DON'T IMPLY THEY'RE UNIMPORTANT, BUT SMALL AMOUNTS OF FENTANYL AMOUNTS, OFFICERS MAKE CONTACT WITH THE FOLKS REGULARLY AND MAKING ARRESTS FOR THAT. WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE AND ACKNOWLEDGE IT'S AN ONGOING CHANNEL FOR ALBUQUERQUE. THEY CAN GIVE LEADS IF THAT PERSON IS WILLING TO DO THAT. THEY CAN MAKE THE ARREST OR SEEK PROSECUTION LATER. >>COUN. BASSAN: DOES THAT MEAN THAT -- DOES APD ASSIST WITH SEEKING PROSECUTION LATER? >> I'M SORRY? >>COUN. BASSAN: DOES APD KEEP AIDING WITH SEEKING PROSECUTION LATER? DOES APD HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT? >> WE HAVE THE OPTION TO FILE THE COMPLAINTS WITH THE D.A. AND ASK FOR THAT PROSECUTION AT A LATER DAY. I GUESS I WOULD USE THE EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY, THERE'S A PERSON THERE AND SMALL CHILDREN AND THE ON-SCENE ARREST WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC OR SOME OTHER COMPLICATING FACTOR THEY CAN CHOOSE TO DO THAT AT LATER DATE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, THIS IS GETTING INTO A RABBIT HOLE. THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S VERY RELEVANT. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A PARTICULAR CASE THAT I'VE SEEN ON THE NEWS LATER. REGARDING A FEMALE WHO WAS ARRESTED WITH A THOUSAND FENTANYL TABLETS WITH CHILDREN IN THE CAR. SHE GOT RELEASED BASED OFF OF TIME SERVED. HOW CAN APD ASSIST WITH THAT? I DON'T WANT TO NAG YOU ALL. THIS IS ABOUT THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM AND THIS IS ABOUT THE D.A. AND WHOLE BUNCH OF ENTITIES WORKING TOGETHER. I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN ABOUT THAT. YOU SAID NON-TRAFFICKING AMOUNT WOULD GO TO LEADS. WHAT IS THAT AMOUNT? >> I'M TALKING ABOUT TWO TO THREE PILLS. THAT PERSON HAS TWO TO THREE BILLS AT THAT TIME WOULD BE THE TYPE OF CASES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHICH I BELIEVE IS A LOT OF WHAT WE SEE. JUST AN INDIVIDUAL TO SAY AT BUS PLATFORM OR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR AT A PARK USING NARCOTICS. THEY COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT. THEY HAVE TO BE WILLING TO GO INTO THAT. THAT'S PART OF -- THAT'S AN OPTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: IS THERE A TRAFFICKING AMOUNT? IS THERE A MINIMUM? >> THERE IS. >>COUN. BASSAN: TEN OR TWELVE SEEMS LIKE -- >> I DON'T KNOW THE TRAFFIC AMOUNT FOR FENTANYL AS I STAND HERE. I WILL GET IT TO YOU. I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT LITERAL NUMBER. YES MA'AM. THERE ARE TRAFFICKING THRESHOLDS. THOUSANDS OF PILLS WOULD BE A TRAFFICKING AMOUNT OF FENTANYL AND THEY CAN BE CHARGED ACCORDINGLY. WITH PRECISION, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT THAT WOULD -- >>COUN. BASSAN: PLEASE SEND THAT TO ME. >> YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M SURE I CAN GOOGLE IT. >> I'M HAPPY TO DO IT. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT TOO, COUNCILOR. I HAVE A COUPLE MORE. DO APD OFFICERS EVER SEIZE FENTANYL OR DRUGS WHEN THEY ARREST? >> YES, MA'AM. IF THEY MAKE THE PHYSICAL ARREST AND THAT'S THE CHARGE THAT'S THE BASIS FOR IT. IT'S INCUMBENT TO SEE THAT TAGGED INTO EVIDENCE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT. SAYING THEY GAVE A PROBABLE CAUSE TO MAKE THE ARREST. >>COUN. BASSAN: I PROBABLY SHOULD KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS. WHAT TRAIN TO THE OFFICERS RECEIVE IN ORDER TO SEIZE ANY DRUGS OR ANY KIND OF EVIDENCE WHEN THEY GO THROUGH THIS? >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF PACKAGING? >>COUN. BASSAN: IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE HAVE SOMEBODY WITH TWO TO THOUSANDS OF TABLETS OF FENTANYL WHAT TRAINING DO YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE SAFE FOR -- DOES THIS PUT YOU IN DANGER TOO? >> IT DOES. >>COUN. BASSAN: ARE OFFICERS IN DANGER FROM ARRESTING SOMEBODY WITH ALL OF THE TABLETS OR DRUGS OR NARCOTICS? HOW DO WE LOOK OUT FOR YOU AND YOUR TRAINING? >> THE ANSWER IS YES. WE'VE HAD? -- WE'VE HAD INSTANCES WHERE THERE WAS INADVERTENT CONTACT WITH FENTANYL AND THEY SUFFERED EFFECTS FROM THAT. WE'RE VERY AWARE OF THAT. WE HAVE SPECIFIC TRAINING FOR THEM ON THE PACKAGING AND THE SAFETY OF LAB PERSONNEL AND FOR THE SAFETY OF THE OFFICER. THEY'RE TRAINED ON HOW TO DO THAT IN A SAFE WAY. WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT TRACK RECORD. THERE'S CASES WHERE OFFICERS CAME IN CONTACT WITH FENTANYL AND WEREN'T AWARE IT WAS ON THE SURFACE THEY TOUCHED AND IT IMPACTED THEM. THAT'S A REAL CONCERN. WE CARRY NARCAN. WE HAD OFFICERS HAD NARCAN DELIVERED THEM TO COUNTERACT THAT BEFORE MEDICAL PERSONNEL CAN ARRIVE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. NOW I'M GOING TO GET BACK ON TRACK. THANK YOU FOR ROLLING WITH ME THROUGH THAT. APD'S POLICY REGARDING THE LAW, CITY LAW, FOR OPEN DRUG USE, IT'S NOT BEING TOLERATED, RIGHT? >> CORRECT. WE CERTAINLY -- THERE'S NO CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE'RE GOING TO THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA OR LAWFUL IDEA FOR SOMEONE TO USE NARCOTICS. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE -- OFFICERS HAVE DISCRETION AS DESCRIBED DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES. IF THEY WERE NOT TO MAKE ARRESTS OR NOT TAKE ANY ACTION AS I WAS DESCRIBING THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A COMPELLING ARGUMENT IN THEIR REPORT AND TO THE SUPERVISORS ABOUT WHY THAT DID NOT OCCUR. >> NARRATOR:. >>COUN. BASSAN: >>COUN. BASSAN: WHAT IS THE POLICY REGARDING THE DRUG USE? IF I DRIVE BY A BUS STOP AND I SEE SOMEBODY DOING -- I'M NO EXPERT, BUT IF SHB ARE DOING SOME KIND OF DRUG USE AND IT'S CLEAR, I THINK MANY OF US HAVE SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN, DO WE CALL? DO I CALL? WHAT DOES APD DO WHEN THEY GO OUT TO THAT CALL? WHAT IS THE POLICY FOR ENFORCING OPEN DRUG USE IN PUBLIC? >> I MEAN, YES, I WANT CITIZENS -- I WANT ANYONE TO CALL US AND REPORT DRUG USE AND ANY ENVIRONMENT THEY ENCOUNTER IT. THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE A CALL FOR SERVICE. OFFICERS WILL BE DISPATCHED AND THEY INTERACT AND DEAL WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THE TIME. IT CAN BE NOT AS APPARENT AT THE TIME THEY'RE THERE. IF IT IS APPARENT AND THEY'RE ABLE TO TAKES. THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THE STEPS I DESCRIBED. WE WANT YOU TO CALL AND REPORT THAT ACTIVITY SO WE KNOW THAT'S GOING ON IF WE'RE NOT AWARE. AND WE WOULD RESPOND ACCORDINGLY. JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CALL FOR SERVICE. >> BECAUSE I CAN ALREADY SEE MY EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS STARTING TO COME IN TOO. AS MUCH AS I THINK IT WOULD BE AN EMERGENCY BECAUSE IT'S TIME SENSITIVE, WOULD THAT BE A 242-COPS CALL OR 911 CALL? >> IT'S GOING TO BE -- DRUG USE WITH NO OTHER ACTIVITY -- THERE'S NOT A DISTURBANCE OR ACT OF VIOLENCE OCCURRING, WOULD COME OUT AS A PRIORITY THREE CALL FOR SERVICE. THERE POTENTIALLY WOULD BE SOME DELAY IN BEING DISPATCHED TO THE OFFICERS BASED ON EMERGENT CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THE QUEUE. >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY. THANK YOU. I WAS REALLY JENGENUINELY, I HA SEVERAL MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO ASSIST APD WITH SOME OF THIS. ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COLLABORATING WITH THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM AS WELL AS OUR CITY GOVERNMENT SYSTEM. YOU CAN TALK WITH THE D.A.'S OFFICE. HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE OUR OFFICERS ARE SAFE BUT KEEPING THEM SAFE IN THE PUBLIC. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S APD'S FAULT. BUT I DON'T THINK ENOUGH IS BEING DONE ABOUT OPEN DRUG USE IN ALBUQUERQUE. I WOULD LOVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HELP WITH THAT. I KNOW THAT COUNCILOR SANCHEZ HAS SOME QUESTIONS. I HAVE ONE MORE LATER ABOUT SOMETHING. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. I WAS A RETIRED NARCOTICS DETECTIVE. I WORKED NARCOTICS EARLY IN MY CAREER. THE TRAFFICKING, THE LOW LEVEL POSSESSION, THE WAY YOU ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS ARE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING TO THE PUBLIC. THE WAY IT WORKS IS ANY AMOUNT OF NARCOTICS THAT BEING TRAFFICKED OR SOLD IS A TRAFFICKING OFFENSE. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S ONE PILL, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S ONE ROCK OF CRACK COCAINE. IF THAT INDIVIDUAL IS RECEIVING OR TRANSFERRINGING THAT IT IS A TRAFFICKING OFFENSE. THAT INCLUDES A FELONY TRAFFICKING OFFENSE. FENTANYL IS NARCOTING. IT'S A SCHEDULE TWO NARCOTIC. IT MEANS THAT IT'S A FELONY RIGHT OFF THE BAT IF YOU'RE POSSESSING THAT. IF YOU POSSESS IT, ANY AMOUNT THAT TESTS IN A TEST KIT WOULD BE CONSIDERED FELONY LEVEL TESTS. THAT RIGHT THERE IS A FELONY. THE NEXT THING, IF AN INDIVIDUAL IS SELLING 100 PILLS OF NARCOTICS AS TRAFFICKING, THAT'S AN OBVIOUS TRAFFICKING OFFENSE BECAUSE IT'S WAY MORE THAN PERSONAL USE. IF YOU HAVE PERSONAL USE DRUG AND YOU'RE TRANSFERRING THEM TO MAKE MONEY IT IS TRAFFICKING. ALSO, I HAVE ACTUALLY CALLED POLICE NUMEROUS TIMES IN REFERENCE TO TRAFFICKING AND ILLEGAL DRUG USE, I HAVE POINTED IT OUT TO OFFICERS SEVERAL TIMES IN MY AREA AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN TO ME REFERENCE THE OFFICERS? WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE SMOKING A CIGARETTE OR WHAT THEY'RE SMOKING. I SAID WHY CAN'T YOU CHECK IT? THEY WON'T GO CHECK IT. WHY IS THAT? THAT THEY WON'T GO CHECK TO SEE WHAT'S BEING SMOKED OR EXCHANGED. THE EXCHANGE OF NARCOTICS FOR MONEY IS TRAFFICKING. THE NEXT THING THAT HAPPENS IS SOMEBODY SMOKING OR USING THAT AND WHY DO I GET FROM THE OFFICERS WHEN THEY GO OUT ON THE STREET THAT THEY CAN'T TELL FOR SURE WHAT THEY'RE SMOKING BECAUSE THERE'S SOME SUBSTANCES LEGAL. THERE'S AN EXCUSE MADE. INSTEAD OF CHECKING AND MAKING A DETERMINATION OF WHETHER IT IS IN FACT SMOKING DRUGS OR USING A FELONY NARCOTIC OR ACTUALLY SIMPLY SMOKING A CIGARETTE. 90% OF THE TIME WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS WE'RE SEEING INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SMOKING AND SELLING NARCOTICS EVERY SINGLE DAY ON THE STREETS OF ALBUQUERQUE. SO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAD THAT CLARIFICATION. WHEN WE CALL, WHEN WE CALL AND WE CALL DISPATCH, DISPATCH PUTS IT ON A PRIORITY THREE. JUST LIKE YOU SAID BECAUSE IT'S NOT A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH. AT THAT POINT, IT'S A MISTAKE. BUT WHAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING IS MAKING A HIGHER PRIORITY LEVEL BECAUSE FENTANYL IS A DEADICALLY NARCOTIC. A VERY SMALL AMOUNT CAN KILL SOMEONE AND QUICKLY WITH CONTACT. ANOTHER ISSUE WITH FENTANYL IS IT STAYS SUSPENDED IN THE AIR AFTER IT'S SMOKED. IF AN INDIVIDUAL WALKS THROUGH THE SUSPENDED PARTICLE THEY CAN INGEST THAT DRUG AND POSSIBLY DIE. IT'S VERY, VERY DANGEROUS DRUG. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO BE DOING MORE ABOUT IT. ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS HOW MANY DRUG TRAFFICKING ARRESTS HAS APD MADE LAST YEAR? >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: HOW MANY NARCOTICS DETECTIVES DO WE HAVE WORKING THE STREETS OF ALBUQUERQUE? >> I BELIEVE THAT NUMBER IS THREE. I WANT TO VERIFY THAT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WE HAVE THREE NARCOTICS DETECTIVES? >> SOLELY DEDICATED. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WHEN I WAS A DETECTIVE, JUST TO GIVE A PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT'S GOING ON, WE HAD THREENERCOTICS SQUAD, PLUS REGION ONE TASK FORCE AND A SHERIFF HAD A NARCOTICS SQUAD. AND WE HAD THE DEA AND FBI. THERE WAS PROBABLY A TOTAL OF TEN OR ELEVELEN SQUADS WORKING THE ALBUQUERQUE AREA. AND APD HAD FOUR. FOUR SQUADS THAT ACTUALLY HAD EIGHT TO NINE INDIVIDUALS. WHAT THAT CAUSED IS HAVING A LACK OF NARCOTIC SQUAD AND ENFORCEMENT CAUSED THE FENTANYL PILL TO LOWER IN VALUE FROM $20 A PILL TO $2 A PILL. INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ACTUALLY OUT THERE ON THE STREETS AND SEE SOMEBODY BEGGING FOR MONEY ON THE STREET CORNER AND YOU GIVE THEM $2 THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY GO BUY A FENTANYL BILL. THAT'S HOW DANGEROUS AND SATURATED OUR CITY IS. WE NEED TO DO MORE ABOUT IT THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING AS LAW ENFORCEMENT AND AS A CITY AND AS A COUNCIL. WE NEED TO REALLY WORK ON THIS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. HELLO, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LEAD PROGRAM IS. I JUST DOUBLE CHECKED YOUR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE IT SAYS THAT THIS IS A COLLABORATION NOT JUST WITH APD BUT ALSO THE COUNTY, THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY REFERRALS COME IN ANNUALLY TO THE LEAD PROGRAM? >> I DON'T KNOW. I CAN GET THAT TO YOU. YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS MULTI-FACETED. >>COUN. ROGERS: IT SAYS IT ALLOWS POLICE OFFICERS TO UTILIZE DISCRETION TO DIVERT LOW LEVEL NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS. IT'S DRIVEN BY SUBSTANCE ABUSE OR MENTAL HEALTH OR POVERTY AWAY FROM THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. >> WE WANT THE IMPACT THE DRUG USE OR PROPERTY DAMAGE, BUT THERE'S USUALLY UNDERLYING FACTORS IN THEIR LIFE. MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, BEING UNHOUSED, THEY HAVE A DRUG ISSUE. THAT PROGRAM TRIES TO PUT FOLKS TOGETHER TO GET THEM OUT OF THE SYSTEM BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE CRIMINAL HISTORY CAN HAVE A RIPPLE EFFECT ON A PERSON'S LIFE. I WILL GET YOU THE NUMBER OF LEAD REFERRALS FOR LAST YEAR. I DON'T KNOW THAT. AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I WILL GET YOU THE TRAFFICKING ARRESTS AS REQUESTED. >>COUN. ROGERS: ONE MORE FOLLOW UP. DO WE TRACK THE OUTCOMES OF THE PARTICIPANTS? IF THERE WERE REFERRALS. >> YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. ROGERS: CAN WE ALSO GET THAT? >> ABSOLUTELY. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: HELLO, D. C. THERE'S SOMETHING YOU SAID IN AN ANSWER TO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION OF IT. YOU MENTIONED THERE'S A DISCREPANCY OR DISCRETION IN THE OFFICER'S RESPONSE TO FENTANYL USE OR SOMEONE USING DRUGS IN PUBLIC. IS THAT DISCRETION MEANING ARREST OR NON-ARREST? OR ARREST AND SEND THEM TO LEADS? CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT? >> I'LL CERTAINLY TRY TO. THE ARREST OPTION, THE LEADS REFERRAL OPTION, OR FACING PROSECUTION WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AT A LATER DAY WOULD BE THOSE OPTIONS. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: FELONY USE OF A DRUG -- >>COUN. CHAMPINE: FELONY USE OF A DRUG IS A FELONY. NOW THE OFFICERS HAVE A DISCRETION NOT TO ARREST ON A FELONY CHARGE? >> LET'S SAY THERE'S A WOMAN WITH TWO CHILDREN. SHE'S GOT A SMALL AMOUNT OF FENTANYL ON HER, POTENTIALLY TO GO THROUGH THE LEADS PROGRAM WOULD BE AN OPTION. I'M TRYING ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I THINK YOU'RE CLARIFYING WELL. >> THEY HAVE THE OPTIONS IN FRONT OF THEM. THEY CAN MAKE THAT ON-SCENE ARRESTS. MANY TIMES THEY DO. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION WE DON'T DO ON-SCENE ARRESTS WHEN WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE FENTANYL. I'M AWARE THAT ANY SALE OR DELIVERY DOES MAKE THAT A TRAFFICKING RELATED OFFENSE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WHICH IS A FELONY. THAT IS MY QUESTION. THE POLICY AND PROCEDURES. I WAS CURIOUS IF THAT HAS CHANGED. >> IT HAS NOT. PERHAPS IT'S THE WORDING I'M USING. I APOLOGIZE IF THERE'S NOT CLARITY RELATED TO THAT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: IN THAT INCIDENT THEY CONFISCATE THE NARCOTICS? >> YES. THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT THE NARCOTICS ARE SEIZED IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES. IT'S ILLEGAL TO POSSESS IT AS BEEN DESCRIBED. THERE'S NOT A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE WE WOULD NOT TAKE POSSESSION OF THOSE ILLEGAL NARCOTICS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THAT WAS MY CLARIFICATION. FACING A FELONY ARREST AND OFFICERS SAYING THEY DON'T NEED TO DO IT. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. HI, DEPUTY CHIEF. I WANTED SOME INFORMATION, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT NOW. FOR THE NEXT MEETING IT WILL BE COOL. I KNOW YOU DID A PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN FOR GUNSHOTS DURING NEW YEARS. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE RESULTS OF THAT. WERE THERE ARRESTS? DID THE DETECTOR GO OFF? I'M CURIOUS TO SEE. I KNOW -- AND I'M SURE AND I HEARD FROM OTHER CONSTITUENTS IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD. WAS IT SUCCESSFUL? WAS IT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS? IT ALSO FEELS THE IMPACT OF THE GUN GOING OFF. WE HEARD FROM CONSTITUENTS IT WAS INSANE. I WAS GOING TO SHOW YOU, BUT WE HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN THAT CAME IN. I'M NOT GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE HEARD IN OUR HOUSE. IT WAS INSANE. MAYBE NEXT MEETING. IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT MAYBE IN DIFFERENT AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. >> I WOULD LOVE TO ANSWER YOU ON THE PARTICULARS OF THE DOWNTOWN AND HAPPY TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ON IMPLEMENTATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: COULD YOU SEND THIS RESPONSE TO ALL OF US COUNCILORS? >> YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, I DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT. I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS BASED OFF OF THAT THEY ARE RELEVANT. YOU'RE SAYING ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS SEEKING PROSECUTION WITH D.A.'S OFFICE AT A LATER DATE. DOES APD EVER HAVE INPUT REGARDING THE AGREEMENT AND SEEKING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS? >> YES, MA'AM. WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THE ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY AS WE'RE HAVING THAT. OBVIOUSLY, THEY MAKE THE PROSECUTION DECISIONS. YES, IT'S A RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM. BACK AND FORTH ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF EACH MATTER. >>COUN. BASSAN: SO, WOULD YOU -- OTHER THINGS I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING AND READING. WOULD APD RECOMMEND A FENTANYL CASE SHOULD BE BROUGHT DOWN TO CRIMINAL TRESPASS? DO YOU KNOW? >> WE DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT. IN THE SENSE OF THE D.A. TELLING US I'M GOING TO DROP IT TO THAT. THAT CERTAINLY COULD BE IN THE EBB AND FLOW OF CASE ADJUDICATION IN COURT. OBVIOUSLY, THOSE ARE NOT DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE. IT WOULD BE NORMAL TO HAVE THE D.A. GO HERE'S WHERE I'M AT, THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO DO FOR THEM. AND THAT'S THE PLEA WE'RE OFFERING THEM. >>COUN. BASSAN: I REALIZE IT'S NOT MY ROLE. I HOPE THAT APD WOULD MAKE SURE TO ENCOURAGE THE D.A.'S OFFICE TO NOT REDUCE ANY CHARGE TO CRIMINAL TRESPASS ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CASES THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER. WE HAVE TO GET A GRIP ON THIS. I WOULD LOVE TO HELP APD HOWEVER I CAN AND ASSIST THE D.A.'S OFFICE IN MAKING SURE PROSECUTIONS DO HAPPEN AND GET A HOLD ON THAT. I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING MORE HOMEWORK AND TALKING TO YOU ABOUT IT. I'M DONE WITH APD QUESTIONING. I APPRECIATE YOU. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE, I HAVE TWO MORE. THE NEXT QUESTION IS THERE WAS A PRESS RELEASE PUT OUT SAYING THAT THE GATEWAY IS OPEN AND AVAILABLE FOR MORE SERVICES. IT INCLUDED SAYING IT IS NOT INCLUDING ANYTHING FOR WALK-UP SERVICES. MY QUESTION TO THE ADMINISTRATION IS WHEN PEOPLE ARE READY TO GET HELP IN ALBUQUERQUE, IF THE GATEWAY IS IS NOT SOMEWHERE THEY'RE INVITED TO WALK UP AND GET ASSISTANCE, WHERE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GO? >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I ASKED DIRECTOR RAMIREZ TO BE HERE. HE'S A NEW DIRECTOR BUT HAS BEEN WITH HHH FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I APPRECIATE HE'S GOING TO TALK THROUGH NOT ONLY WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY IS BUT ALSO ACS IN TERMS OF HOW WE ADDRESS THIS. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. ALSO -- SORRY, MY VOICE IS HORSE. ALL PROGRAMMING IN GATEWAY IS IN COLLABORATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIPS AND WE WANT THEM TO FEEL ASSURED WHAT GOES IN AND OUT OF GATEWAY AND HOW WE SERVE THOSE FOLKS. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE ANNOUNCED IS RECEIVING AREA IS COMPLETED WE'RE EXECUTING THE FINAL CONTRACT WITH THE PROVIDER WHICH IS THE UNM OFFICE OF COMMUNITY HEALTH. ANY TIME YOU HAVE SOCIAL SERVICE FOLKS MAY WALK UP AND ASK INTEREST THE SERVICES OR HELP. I THINK THE FACILITY SECURITY GUIDES THEM BECAUSE FOLKS ARE COMING IN AND OUT FOR THE 11 TENANTS AND GUIDING THEM FOR THOSE PARTICULAR SERVICES. IF THEY'RE SPECIFIC FOR OUR PROGRAMMING, WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR PROVIDER ADDRESS THAT SERVICE TRIAGE AND GET IT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. IT'S NOT WE TURN ANYONE AWAY FROM WALK UP SERVICES. WE'RE OPEN AND CONSTANTLY FULL, WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO BE TURNED AWAY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A BED WE WANT THEM CONNECTED TO THE APPROPRIATE SERVICES. WE'VE PARTNERSHIP WITH ACS, THEY LAUNCHED A NUMBER FOR CALLS IN CASE THEY HAVE TO BE TRANSPORTED SOMEWHERE ELSE. IN THE COLD WINTER IT'S NOT IDEAL TO WALK INTO THE COLD AND WHERE THAT IS. I ALSO WANT TO EXTEND WE HAD A WONDERFUL MEETING WITH THE COUNTY CARES IN ESTABLISHING CLARITY OF WHAT SERVICES THEY PROVIDE TO TRANSPORT THEM TO HELP THEM GET BETTER SERVED. WE UNDERSTAND AS WE OPEN GATEWAY THERE MIGHT BE A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING. PEOPLE CAN BE THERE FOR DETOXES, OR TURQUOISE LODGE. UNDERSTANDING THE THRESHOLD AND IN TAKE AND CONNECT THEM. WE'RE PREPARING AND STAGING FOR EVENING HOURS TO SUPPORT ACS, BUT THERE ARE NO OTHER SOCIAL SERVICES IN THE EVENING. WE'RE GOING TO SERVE FOLKS FROM 8 P.M. TO 8 A.M. AT NIGHT, THERE -- WE WANT TO TEND TO FOLKS. AND HOLD THEM OVERNIGHT UNTIL WE GET THEM INTO THE DOOR OF SERVICE PROVIDER BY 8 A.M. THE NEXT DAY. THIS IS THE GAP WE'RE TRYING TO FILL WITH THOSE PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP. DOING OUR BEST. IT'S NOT GOING TO A PERFECT STAGING. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMBINATION OF NOT WANTING TO TURN FOLKS AWAY BUT CONTROLLING THE FLOW IN AND OUT OF THE FACILITY TO HONOR THE GOOD NEIGHBOR, AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE STAGE WITH PROGRAMMING, IT'S DESIGNED WITH INTENTIONALITY AND RIGHT SERVICE FOR THE RIGHT PEOPLE. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: I THINK IT HELPS. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. CONGRATS ON YOUR NEW ROLE. CAN YOU TELL PEOPLE THE NEW ACS NUMBER? >> I HAVE THAT NUMBER. BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 8 P.M. AND 7 A.M. SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. CALL 549-0044 TO REQUEST TRANSPORT TO A SHELTER AT THE CITY FACILITY OR ONE OF THE PARKS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >> 505-549-0044. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. IN A CITY FULL OF ACRONYMS SURELY WE GET A NUMBER WITH AN ACRONYM. THAT'S MY QUESTION. I HAVE ONE MORE. IT LOOKS LIKE COUNCILOR ROGERS HAS ONE TOO. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. HELLO DIRECTOR. CONGRATULATIONS. I JUST WANT TO TELL A BIT OF A STORY. BEAR WITH ME. A COUPLE WEEKS AGO I MET A WOMAN AT THE COMPASSION CENTER WITH A CHILD WITH WANTED SERVICES. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF SITTING IN ON THE SESSION WITH COUNCIL AND DIRECTOR PIERCE AROUND SERVICES AT THE GATEWAY. I LEFT THERE AS WELL AS THE PRESS RELEASE THINKING PEOPLE COULD GET SERVICES AT THE GATEWAY. I TOOK HER DOWN TO THE GATEWAY TO GET SERVICES. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. WE GO UP TO THE SECURITY GUARD AND I SAID I'M HERE FOR HOUSING NAVIGATION SERVICES. I BROUGHT MY FRIEND FOR SERVICES. HE SAID AT GATEWAY? I SAID YES. HE SAID GO IN. I SAID WHERE DO I GO. HE SAID WE DON'T KNOW. WE WALKED THROUGH AIMLESSLY TO FIND WHERE TO GO. I SAW DOUG. I SAID I'M HERE TO GET MY FRIEND HOUSING SERVICES. AND AGAIN, THIS WOMAN IS EXACTLY WHO I THINK NO COUNCILOR WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US HELPING. SHE IS GAENFULLY EMPLOYED, SINGLE MOM. DAUGHTER IS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL. NOT ON SUBSTANCES. THE PERSON YOU WANT TO HELP. WE WENT TO HEADING HOME. THAT'S WHERE DOUG SAID TO GO. THE DOOR HAS A BIG KEY LOCK ON IT. IT HAD A SIGN THAT SAID KNOCK FOR SERVICES. WE KNOCKED ON THE DOOR. POPPED THEIR HEAD OUT AND LOOKED AT US WHAT DO WE DO HERE. IT WAS OFF-PUTTING. LIKE DON'T ASK ME FOR HELP. DON'T COME HERE FOR HELP. I'M VERY PERSISTENT. SHE WANTED TO LEAVE. SHE THOUGHT IT WAS SCARY. I WAS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THE SERVICES. THE HEADING HOME JUST TEN MINUTES LATER HAPPENED TO BE GOING TO A CONFERENCE ROOM FOR A MEETING. I TALKED TO SOMEONE AND THEY SAID THEY DON'T DO THAT HERE. I AND I SAID DON'T DO WHAT HERE. THEY DON'T PROVIDE WALK-IN SERVICES. I SAID WHAT DO WE DO TO GET SERVICES. THEY SAID TAKE HER NAME AND NUMBER TO GET A CALL BACK. THIS IS THREE WEEKS AGO, SHE NEVER RECEIVED A PHONE CALL. LUCKILY SINCE I HAVE GOOD RELATIONSHIPS AT ACS, I WALKED HER OVER TO ACS AND WORKED WITH RESPONDERS, AND TOLD HER THE SITUATIONS, WE SAT DOWN AND SHE CALLED HATHORNE. IN TEN MINUTES WE GOT AN APPOINTMENT. ACS PICKED HER UP. GOT THINGS CLEANED. GOT HER ALL SET UP WITH SERVICES. IT TOOK ABOUT FOUR HOURS TO ACHIEVE THAT. I GOT THE HELP THAT I NEEDED THROUGH ACS. THEY PICKED UP HER UP. SHE GOT GREAT SERVICES AND GOT A VOUCHER FOR AN APARTMENT. SO, WE'VE GOT TO DO TRAINING THE SECURITY GUARD AT THE FRONT. JUST ANOTHER WAY WE CAN CREATE THE ACTUAL TRUE GATEWAY TO SERVICES THAT WE WANT. AND I JUST SHARE THAT TO SAY WE WANT TO DO BETTER. WE WANT TO HELP YOU DO BETTER. AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. BECAUSE SHE WOULD NOT -- SHE SAID THAT AS WE'RE DRIVING HER BACK TO COMPASSION CENTERS. SHE SAID SHE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ADVOCATE FOR HERSELF AND SAY NO I'M NOT LEAVING UNTIL I GET HELP. I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT. I'VE BEEN ON OTHER SIDE DOING THAT WORK. WE JUST HAVE TO DO BETTER. >> THANK YOU. ALSO CONGRATULATIONS. YES, I THINK THE FAMILY HOUSING OBLIGATION FACILITY HAS BEEN UP AND RUNNING RIGHT AFTER COVID. GATEWAY IS RELATIVELY NEW WHICH IS NOT AN EXCUSE. WE HAVE SKILLS ON HOW WE NAVIGATE. WE SHOULD DO BETTER. WE WILL DO BETTER. THE SECURITY IS THROUGH A CONTRACTED VENDOR. WE'LL HAVE A MEETING AS TO WHAT THE COMMUNICATION IS AND HOW DO YOU GUIDE FOLKS TO FACILITIES. >>COUN. ROGERS: ONE LAST QUESTION. DO WE HAVE THE MOU'S FINISHED WITH INPROVIDERS? I HEAR WE HAVE THE MY CLIENT TYPE OF FIGHTING IN THE GATEWAY. DO WE HAVE THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THEY INTERACT TOGETHER? >> FOR ENGAGEMENT CENTER, WE HAVE MOST OF THEM FINALIZED. WE HAVE VARIOUS PARTNERS TARGETING SERVICES FOR HEALTH. WE HAVE WESTERN SKIES. I GET AN UPDATE ON THE MOU. I THINK MOST ARE EXECUTED AND WE'RE PREPPING AN ANNOUNCEMENT. WHAT WE EHAVE RIGHT NOW IS THE GATEWAY MANAGER CURRENTLY IS OUT AND THAT COORDINATION HAPPENING THERE. THERE'S A GAP IN BETWEEN GETTING THOSE FOLKS TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENED. YES. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. A COUPLE QUESTIONS. DIRECTOR, R-23-174 WHICH WAS LEGISLATION THAT WAS SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, AND MYSELF LAST YEAR SET FORTH A PLAN TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO USE THE RATHER LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY COMING IN FROM THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUND. IN THAT LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED IN OCTOBER, IT WAS PUBLISHED IN OCTOBER 26. IT WAS WITHIN TWO MONTHS OF THE PASSAGE OF THE RESOLUTION THE CITY AND ADMINISTRATION SHALL REPORT ON THE STATUS OF THE PLANNING PROCESS. IT'S BEEN TWO MONTHS. I WAS EXPECTING A PRESENTATION TODAY. I DON'T SEE IT ON THE AGENDA. I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING FROM YOU GUYS. I KNOW OUR STAFF DID REACH OUT BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS TO SAY -- WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT? WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PLANNING PROCESS? WE'RE VERY CONCERNED THERE'S SO MANY TIMELINES IN THE BILL. WE DIDN'T WANT THIS TO DRAG ON. WE WANT TO GET THAT PLAN DONE. WE WANT TO GET THOSE OUT TO THE COMMUNITIES IN WHATEVER FORM IT TAKES. WHICH IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE. PLEASE TELL ME THERE'S SOMETHING HAPPENING IN THE PAST TWO MONTHS. >> YES, THERE HAS BEEN WORK DONE. LET ME STAGE THIS IN A COUPLE WAYS. WE HAVE SOME COUNCILORS ON BOARD. I CAN WALK THROUGH THIS PRIOR TO YOUR RESOLUTION BEING PASSED WHICH DICTATED WHERE WE MOVE FORWARD. I CAN IMMEDIATELY ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION IN REGARD TO WHAT HAPPENED SINCE THEN OR I CAN GIVE A CROSSWALK HISTORY FOR YOU TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE RECEIVED AND WHERE IT IS AND HOW IT'S APPROPRIATED AND WHAT THE RESOLUTION DID FOR NEXT STRATEGIC PLAN. LET ME CLARIFY HOW FAR OF A SUMMARY WOULD YOU LIKE OR SAVE IT FOR ANOTHER TIME AND UPDATE FOR ANOTHER TIME? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IF IT'S OKAY, I THINK WE CAN ALL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE LEGISLATION THAT WE PASSED AND I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH OTHER COUNCILORS IF THEY CAN'T FIND IT. I WOULD PARTICULARLY BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING SINCE WE PASSED THE LEGISLATION WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS AND OVER A WEEK? I AM HOPING THERE'S BEEN A WORK GROUP PUT TOGETHER. THERE'S MEETINGS OR INITIAL CONVERSATIONS. IT MAKES ME NERVOUS I HAVEN'T GOT THAT REPORT. SINCE THIS PASSED AND PUBLISHED ON OCTOBER 26. >> SINCE THE APPROVAL, IT WAS APPROVED ON OCTOBER 26, 2023, THE STAFF HAS WORKED ALONGSIDE COUNTY COUNTER PARTS ON THEIR SIDE BECAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE A SISTER RESOLUTION THAT MIMICS OURS. SINCE THAT, WE MET WITH TWO ORGANIZATIONS IN REGARD TO THE FUNDING AND PLANNING AND STRATEGIC PLAN. WE MET IN NOVEMBER OF 23 SHORTLY AFTER THIS WAS PASSED. IT'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT OFFERS PROJECT MANAGEMENT IN THE AREA OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES INITIATIVES. THEY COLLABORATE WITH ORGANIZATIONS TO CRAFT AND EXECUTE IMPACTFUL HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICE INITIATIVES FROM PROJECT CONCEPTUALIZATION. THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT THE STATE ENTERED INTO WITH SOLUTIONS WITH THEIR STRATEGIC PLANNING WHICH IS WHY THEY REFER TO US. WHEN WE MET WITH THEM IT DID RESULT IN THEM LOOKING AT THE SCOPE OF WORK BASED ON THE LEGISLATION WE HAD AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO. THEY COMPILED AND PUT FORTH A PROPOSAL TO US. WE GOT THAT PROPOSAL BACK FROM THEM AND THEIR COST WAS $250,000 TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IMPLEMENTING AND COORDINATING THAT PLAN BASED ON SCOPE USE OUTLINED. WE LOOKED FURTHER INTO THE ABILITY TO GO STRAIGHT INTO CONTRACT WITH THEM. UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN WE INVESTIGATED IT LOOKS LIKE IT DIDN'T MEET THE PROCUREMENT REGS. SO IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO BID. NOT JUST FALL ON OUR PROCUREMENT REGULATIONS. WE TALKED ABOUT SHARED COST WITH THE COUNTY WHICH WAS FINE. HOWEVER OUR JOB WAS TO GIVE OPTIONS. IT DOES LOOK LIKE WE MAY HAVE TO PUT THAT OUT TO BID. ON SECOND ONE, WE HAD THAT MEETING EARLIER TODAY BECAUSE THE HOLIDAYS WAS HARD TO PIN THEM DOWN. WE MET WITH VITAL STRATEGIES. TODAY, THEIR GLOBAL HEALTH ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS WITH GOVERNMENTS AND CIVIL SOCIETIES. OVER 73 COUNTRIES TO DESIGN EVIDENCE-BASED STRATEGIES TO TACKLE HEALTH PROBLEMS. THIS WILL STRENGTHEN PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEMS TO CONTEND WITH DIFFICULT HEALTH CHALLENGES. THAT'S A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON WHEW VITAL STRATEGIES IS. OVERALL THEIR PRACTICEICIZE DESIGN THINKING THAT CAN SCALE RAPIDLY AND IMPROVE LIVES OF PEOPLE THROUGH THEIR WORK. THEY HAVE A LARGE GRANT THAT ALLOWED THEM TO DO CONSULTING AT LOCAL LEVELS AT NO COST TO THE GOVERNMENTS. THEY WORKED ON THE KEEP NM ALIVE CAMPAIGN AND HOW TO DO BETTER ORN PUBLIC HEALTH CAMPAIGN. ALL FREE OF COST. THEY WORK WITH DONA ANA COUNTY TO LOOK AT THEIR PLAN WITH FUNDING. IN HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WE SHARED THE RESOLUTION AND SCOPE OF WORK, THEY WILL HAVE A PROPOSAL NEXT WEEK OF WHAT THEY CAN OR CANNOT DO. OUR NEXT STEP WILL BE BRINGING YOU BACK INFORMATION ON THEM AND WHAT THOSE COSTS WOULD BE. IF THERE IS A COST, I THINK THE BIGGEST UPDATE THAT WOULD COME TO YOU SAYING THE COUNTY AND CITY WOULD WANT TO GO INTO SHARED COST AGREEMENT TO PROCURE THE SERVICES TO IMPLEMENT THE STRATEGY PLANNING AND THE RESOLUTION DICTATES WE SHOULD. THAT'S THE UPDATE IN REGARD TO THAT AREA FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN CASE. THERE'S ONE MORE PIECE WHICH IS $1.5 MILLION EXECUTION AND THE EXECUTION OF THE IGA. I HEARD BACK TODAY THAT IT'S BEING ROUTED ON THE COUNTY SIDE TODAY. WE SHOULD RECEIVE IT AND GO THROUGH OUR APPROPRIATE CHANNELS FOR EXECUTION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. THANKS FOR LETTING US KNOW. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ALL OF THE THINGS YOU SAID IN WRITING. I'M ALSO A LITTLE CONCERNED. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE HAD A COUPLE MEETINGS. BUT THERE'S BEEN NO ACTUAL PROGRESS MADE. AND THIS BILL WAS VERY CLEAR YOU HAVE 12 MONTHS FROM OCTOBER 26, 2023 TO NOT ONLY COME UP WITH THE PLAN BUT START IMPLEMENTING IT IN A WAY THAT BEST PROVIDES SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY. IF WE'VE ONLY HAD TWO MEETINGS ARE WE GOING TO GET THIS DONE IN THE TIME FRAME OUTLINED IN THE RESOLUTIONS WE'VE OUTLINED? >> OUR GOAL IS TO MEET THE DEADLINE. I THINK THERE'S A LOT WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FOR US WAS TO LOOK AT THE ENTITIES THAT HAD STATE AGREEMENT OR CONTRACTS PROCURED. UNFORTUNATELY, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THOSE ARE VIABLE RESOLUTIONS. THE NEXT PIECE IS ROLLING OUT A VITAL STRATEGY HAT HAS ANYTHING TO BRING TO THE TABLE FREE OF COST BEFORE WE ENTER INTO THAT. THE NEXT GOAL IS FINALIZE THAT IF SO PROCURE THIS AND PUT IT OUT AS RFP. AT LEAST A DRAFT RFP TO HAVE IT READY AND TO THE SCOPE OF SERVICES AND PUSH THAT OUT. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS DOES TAKE TIME TO. RFP GO FROM FOUR TO EIGHT WEEKS DEPENDING ON HOW LONG AND SOLICITATIONS WE WANT TO RECEIVE WE REVIEW AND SCORE AND ISSUE. THERE'S AN APPEAL FOR FOLKS. AND IT COMES TO EXECUTION FOR THE ALLOTMENT OF MONEY. AND IT CAN TAKE AN ADDITIONAL SEVERAL WEEKS. THAT WOULD BE THE TIME FRAME AND START WORK IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. A COUPLE THINGS. ONE, IT SOUNDS LIKE OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS IS MUCH MORE STRINGENT THAN THE STATE. THE STATE CAN CONTRACT OUT WITH FOLKS BUT WE CAN'T. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PROBLEM. I'LL LEAVE THAT FOR ANOTHER DAY. WE DO THE INWRITING UPDATE. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO IS WORKING SPECIFICALLY WITH US AND WHAT THOSE MEETINGS LOOK LIKE AND WHO IS IN ATTENDANCE. ALL OF THE DETAILS AROUND THAT. I WANT MAKE SURE WE'RE STALING -- STAYING ON THIS. WHEN WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR GROUT, THE MAIN CONCERN WE HEARD IS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THINGS DIDN'T GET BOGGED DOWN AND NOT MOVE FORWARD. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIMING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE -- WHAT WE PROMISED WOULD HAPPEN IS GOING TO ACTUALLY HAPPEN. IF WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY, LEGISLATIVELY, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. I WOULD LIKE TO MIKE -- MAKE SURE WE GET A REPORT THAT OUTLINES THE FIRST FEW MONTHS. THERE'S ANOTHER REPORT DUE AT SIX MONTHS BUT I DON'T WANT TO WAIT TO SIX MONTHS. >> I AM HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT SOONER. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS DIRECTOR. COUNCILOR PEÑA HAS A FOLLOW UP. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. DIRECTOR, I VOTED AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION. ALTHOUGH I APPRECIATE COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND COUNCILOR BASSAN AND EVERYTHING. I WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE OF THESE REASONS. I KNOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE ANALYSIS AND THE GAP ANALYSIS THAT WERE DONE THREE OR FOUR REITERATIONS, I KNOW WE HAVE A RECENT ONE. WHEN WE ACTUALLY PASSED THIS, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW IS JUST GETTING SOMEBODY ON BOARD FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN, RIGHT? SO, AGAIN, IT JUST -- IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME. UNFORTUNATELY. AND I THINK WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS WHOEVER GETS THE AWARD WILL LOOK AT THE GAPS ANALYSIS. I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE FOLLOWING IN TERMS OF THIS WHOLE PLAN? >> WE ACTUALLY PROVIDED THAT ANALYSIS TO BOTH OF THE AGENCIES THAT WE INTERVIEWED FOR REVIEW AHEAD OFFENSE TIME EVEN AS THEY'RE DRAFTING THIS SO THEY KNOW THE PREMISE OF WHAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED. UNDERSTANDING THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC HAS EVOLVED. THAT WASN'T AROUND WHEN SOME OF THESE WERE DONE. THE LANDSCAPE ANALYSIS FAILS TO UNDERSTAND OVERDOSE RATES. WE SPENT TIME TO LOOK AT HOW TO GET THE MOST CURRENT INFORMATION AS TO THE IMPACT OF THE EPIDEMIC IN THE COMMUNITY SO WE CAN HAVE THE BUCKETED AREAS THAT ARE STRATEGICALLY PRIORITIZED BOTH FROM EARLY INTERVENTION TO INTERVENTION TO POST VENTION. >>COUN. PEÑA: JUST TO FOLLOW UP, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. BECAUSE THIS IS MY CONCERN. WE'RE GOING TO RFP WITH SOMEBODY TO LOOK AT THE GAPS ANALYSIS TO IMPLEMENT THAT. WHICH IS NECESSARY, BUT THERE'S ALSO OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE INVOLVED. I HOPE WHOEVER IS RECIPIENT OF THE RFPs RECOGNIZE THAT GOING IN AND DON'T HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A -- THEY HAVE A BIT OF CHEAT SHEET. BUT TO REALLY DEEP DIVE INTO SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES WE'RE SEEING IN THE COMMUNITY. >> CORRECT. THAT'S OUR GOAL. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I'M DONE WITH YOU, DIRECTOR. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, WOULD YOU MIND IF I CIRCLE BACK TO THE ONE I STARTED WITH? THANK YOU. IF WE CAN PLEASE GET AN UPDATE REGARDING THE USS ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE INFAMOUS DAVE SIMON IS HERE. WE'RE CIRCLING BACK AROUND. THANK YOU. >> INFAMOUS IS A LITTLE BIT LATE. I APOLOGIZE. I WAS HAVING NAVIGATION OF MY OWN TONIGHT. MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, AN UPDATE ON THE USS ALBUQUERQUE PROJECT. THE PROJECT LEFT PORT. IT IS MOVING ALONG STEADILY. AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE RECEIVED THE SALE OF THE SUBMARINE LAST YEAR. WE WORKED THROUGH SITE PLANNING AND THE RATHER COMPLICATED STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING ISSUES WE NEED TO RESOLVE IN ORDER TO MAKE A WORLD-CLASS MONUMENT AND COMMUNITY SPACE THAT HONORS THE SERVICE OF THE VESZAL AND CREW OUT OF 52 TONS OF METAL. THAT WORK IS ONGOING. WE'RE COMPLETING TECHNICAL ASSESSMENTS AND SITE PLANNING. THE SITE ASSESSMENT AT A COUPLE SITES WE SEE AS THE HIGHEST AND BEST CANDIDATES FOR THE LOCATION OF THE SALE. WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THAT. WE HAD TO FIND OURSELVES A VERY, VERY EXPERT METAL WORKER FOR THIS PROJECT. A BIT OF A JENGA PROJECT TO ASSEMBLE THESE PIECES INTO 52 TONS. WE'VE DONE THAT AND I EXPECT TO WORK THROUGH THE SITE PLANNING ISSUES THIS SUMMER. AND FUNDING IS ADEQUATE, READY TO MOVE INTO CONSTRUCTION PHASES LATER THIS YEAR. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WILL YOU CIRCLE BACK WITH US AS THINGS PROGRESS? >> ABSOLUTELY, COUNCILOR. I BELIEVE WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE SEEKING SOME HELP FROM NEW MEXICO LEGISLATURE FOR THIS PROJECT. I BELIEVE IT'S ON THE LIST OF PRIORITY PROJECTS. IT'S ONE THAT HONORS THE SERVICE OF VETERANS AND WE ARE A VERY BLESSED WITH VETERAN STATE HERE. OVER 200,000 VETERANS RESIDE IN OUR STATE. WE HOPE TO GET ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE LATER CONSTRUCTION PIECES. I THINK WE'RE ADEQUATELY FUNDING FOR PLANNING AND DESIGN. WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. I THINK THIS IS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OR PERHAPS TRANSIT. IN IN REFERENCE TO THE PORTLAND LIEU. WE WORKED FOR OVER A YEAR AND A HALF TO GET IT INSTALLED. IT SEEMS STRANGE TO INSTALL A BATHROOM, BUT WE DID. IT'S OPEN AT THE TRANSIT CENTER. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OPEN 24-7. I WENT BY ON FRIDAY IN THE AFTERNOON AT 1:20 AND IT WASN'T OPENED. I TRIED TO FIND OUT WHY IT WASN'T OPENED. I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET AN ANSWER. PRAPSZ PERHAPS I CAN GET AN ANSWER TONIGHT. >> THE GOOD NEWS IS LEZLY LOOKED INTO THE LOU. THE REPORT IS THOROUGH. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'M ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THAT. >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, YES, THE PORTLAND LOU, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WAS LOCKED. IT HAS BEEN OPENED SINCE IT HAS BEEN -- IT HAS BEEN UNLOCKED SINCE IT HAS BEEN OPENED LATER IN THE SUMMER. IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN LOCKED. WE'RE IN THERE CLEANING IT ON A DAILY BASIS. MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY THEY'RE IN THERE BETWEEN TWO AND FOUR TIMES AND ON THE WEEKENDS ONCE DAILY. THE CREW WENT TO CHECK TON TO MAKE SURE IT WAS UNLOCKED AND VERIFIED WHETHER IT WAS LOCKED. IT SHOULD BE UNLOCKED. THE INSTRUCTIONS I PROVIDED TO THE TEAM IS IT WILL REMAIN UNLOCKED. THEY'RE GOING TO VERIFY IT'S UNLOCKED WHEN THEY DO THE CLEANING AND MAINTENANCE AND IF THERE'S ANY REASON IT NEEDS TO BE LOCKED DUE TO SAFETY ISSUES OR CLEANING ISSUES I'M TO BE NOTIFIED DIRECTLY OF THAT. I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR YOU ON WHY IT WAS LOCKED I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS IS THE ONLY BATHROOM IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE THAT IS OPEN TO CITIZENS TO USE 24-7 YEAR ROUND. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THAT OPEN. IT'S VERY UP SETTING TO ME. IT WAS VERY HARD TO GET THAT INSTALLED AND OPERATING. I TOOK SOMEONE BY TO SHOW THEM THIS GREAT THING WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY IN DISTRICT SEVEN AND IT WAS LOCKED. THERE WAS NO SIGNAGE. IT'S BEEN SEVERAL DAYS OF ME ASKING WHY IT WAS LOCKED AND I STILL DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. I JUST WANT TO SAY, I FOUND IT VERY UPSETTING. THE FACT IS WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, PRESUMABLY THERE AREN'T THAT MANY PEOPLE WITH KEYS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN. I GUESS I HAVE TO CHECK IT OUT OFTEN. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. I'M SORRY. I THINK THESE ARE MOSTLY FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH APD FOR THE LAST WEEK. I'M TOLD THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS TONIGHT. I'M GOING TO ASK MY QUESTIONS TO THE ADMINISTRATION. THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL ON DECEMBER 10th THAT SAID, AND I QUOTE, THE CITY WORKERS QUOTED TO SAY SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HANDING OUT WRONG FLIERS AND THEY HAVE BEEN ARRESTED FOR IT. REFERENCED FLIERS FOR THE ACLU INFORMING PEOPLE OF THE INJUNCTION DEALING WITH HOUSING AND PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND VALUABLES AND BELONGINGS. MY QUESTION IS DOES THE CITY ARREST PEOPLE FOR HANDING OUT FLIERS? OF ANY KIND. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION. I WILL BE KEEPING THEM BRIEF. TO EXPLAIN, THIS IS ONLY THE SECOND TIME I ASKED MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT NOT TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS. I'VE DONE THAT FOR THE SAME REASON, THIS IS AN ACTIVE LITIGATION. WE'RE LITIGATING THIS INJUNCTION AND THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO INJUNCTION. WE HAVE A HEARING ON FRIDAY TO ADDRESS THIS QUESTION AS WELL AS THE SCOPE OF THE INJUNCTION WHICH I SENT YOU AN EMAIL TODAY. IT HAS BEEN STAYED BY THE SUPREME COURT DUE TO REAL SIGNIFICANT QUESTIONS OF WHETHER THE COURT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO IMPLEMENT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. ALSO WHETHER IT HAD SUFFICIENT CLARITY FOR THE CITY. THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE ADDRESSING THIS FRIDAY. THIS IS A QUESTION IN ACTIVE LITIGATION. I CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE COMING AND ADDRESSING THE QUESTIONS. THERE'S A SECOND REASON. SOME OF THE INFORMATION IS NEW TO US. AND APD IS TREATING THIS AS A COMPLAINT. THEY HAVE STARTED REVIEWING THE VIDEOS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE CONDUCTING INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS. AND THOSE INVESTIGATIONS HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETED. SO, TO SOME EXTENT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO GET INTO SOME OF THE DETAILS ON THIS. AND I WANT TO SAY THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING VERY HARD TO COMPLY WITH THE JUNCTION. WE'VE DONE SO EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO PREDICATE FOR FIRST PLACE. THE CITY'S CONDUCT WAS CONSTITUTIONAL. THE PLAINTIFFS DID NOT ESTABLISH A PATTERN THAT JUSTIFIES AN INJUNCTION. NONETHELESS, SINCE IT'S ENTERED WE'VE MADE EXTENSIVE EFFORTS. EWOO HAVE WE HAVE MET SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK. WE DEVELOPED OPERATING PROCEDURES. WE HAVE -- PRIOR TO INJUNCTION WHAT WE WOULD DO, AT NO POINT PRIOR TO THE INJUNCTION BEING ENTERED WAS THE CITY WITHOUT A BED AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTED IT. SINCE THE INJUNCTION WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS MADE THE EXPRESSED OFFER OF A BED OF ANYONE CAMPING OUTDOORS. THE PLAINTIFFS ACKNOWLEDGE IF WE MAKE AN OFFER OF THE BED THEY'RE VOLUNTARILY UNHOUSED AND WE ASK THEM TO VACATE PUBLIC PROPERTY. WE'VE MADE RECORDS OF THOSE. WE'VE GOTTEN MANY PEOPLE INTO HOUSING SINCE THEN. WE HAVE THE ACS TRANSPORTATION WHICH OPERATES AND WE CONTINUE TO RUN THE SHUTTLES WE ALWAYS RAN. WE HAVE EXPANDED THE HOUSING OPTION. WE USED OVERFLOW HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE HAVE ENSURED ANYONE WHO SAYS YES TO THE OFFER HAS GOTTEN A BED. AS TO THE SPECIFIC ARTICLE, THIS IS SOMEBODY REPEATING SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY ALLEGEDLY SAID TO A REPORTER AND IT GOES INTO THE NEWSPAPER. IT'S INTERPRETATION. THERE WERE FLIERS DISTRIBUTED. THEY DID HAVE INCORRECT INFORMATION. THEY WEREN'T JUST ACLU FLIERS, THEY WERE OTHER FLIERS. OUR CONCERN WAS THEY HAD PEOPLE THINKING THEY THE HAD RIGHT TO STAY IN LOCATIONS WHERE THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO STAY IN. AND WHEN SOLID WASTE OR APD ASKED THEM TO MOVE THEY WOULD SAY THEY DID NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTION TO MOVE OUT OF CITY PROPERTY. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE WAS ARRESTED AS A RESULT OF THAT. WE FOUND NO ONE WAS ARRESTED FOR DISTRIBUTING FLYERS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. THIS ARTICLE WAS DECEMBER 10th. I FIND IT INTERESTING WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. IT SHOULD BE A STRAIGHT UP NO WE DON'T ARREST PEOPLE OF HANDING OUT FLIERS OF ANY TYPE IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I'M ALARMED THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER. >> IT IS A STRAIGHT UP NO. I'M CLARIFYING WHY I'M ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS AND WHAT WE'VE DONE. TO EXPLAIN IT WE CANNOT GET INTO DETAIL BECAUSE THEY DIRECTLY RELATE TO HAD HEARING SGLF I DON'T THINK . >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I DON'T THINK IF WE ASKED ABOUT HANDING OUT FLIERS IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH FRIDAY. I'M GOING TO ASK MY QUESTIONS BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW AND PEOPLE WANT THE ANSWERS. SO, AN ADVOCATE WAS ARRESTED OR HANDCUFFED FOR SOME REASON ON NOVEMBER 30th NEAR THE CORNER OF CENTRAL OF TRESPASSING ON CITY-OWNED LAND. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WOULD WE ARREST CITIZENS ON CITY OWNED LAND FOR BEING PRESENT? IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE USE OF TRESPASSING AND BEING ARRESTED OR I'M TOLD NOW PERHAPS JUST CITED BUT PUT IN HANDCUFFS. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. I WANT THE CITIZENS TO KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I WILL SAY THE TRESPASSING LAWS APPLY TO ALL PEOPLE. THE POINT ON THE INJUNCTION, THERE ARE CERTAIN CITY PROPERTIES THAT ARE CLOSED. NO ONE CAN GO IN THOSE CITY PROPERTIES. I CAN'T GO IN THE CITY PROPERTIES. IF I DID, I COULD BE SUBJECT TO ARREST OR CITATION. THE CITY HAS THAT POWER. THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT WAS FENCED. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. ON NOVEMBER 27th ANOTHER ADVOCATE WAS DETAINED FOR PARKING ON TRUMBULL. THERE'S A VIDEO OF THIS THAT I PROVIDED TO APD. THE PERSON WAS DETAINED. PHYSICALLY DETAINED FOR ILLEGALLY PARKING. IS THAT NOW A POLICY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE THAT IF YOU PARK WRONG YOU'RE GOING TO BE DETAINED BY POLICE? COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, APD IS REVIEWING THIS VIDEO. THEY'RE TREATING IT AS A COMPLAINT. THEY HAVE NOT SPOKE TOON THE OFFICER. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW APD TO COMPLETE THE INVESTIGATION. APD DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO DETAIN SOMEONE. THEY TOOK THE PERSON'S DRIVER'S LICENSE AND RAN THE DRIVER'S LICE AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT FOR A PARKING VIOLATION OR DRAFFIC VIOLATIONS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SEVERAL ENCAMPMENTS WERE CLEARED AT NIGHT IN THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT. DURING EXTREMELY COLD WEATHER. WHY ARE KIWI CLEARING WHY ARE THEY CLEARING THAT AT NIGHT? >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, WE DON'T HAVE INFORMATION TO VERIFY THIS. GENERALLY SPEAKING ENCAMPMENTS ARE CLEARED BY THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT. THEY DON'T WORK AT NIGHT. SOLID WASTE ENDS THEIR DAY AROUND 3:30. APD SOMETIMES RESPONDS ONLY AT NIGHT WHICH MEAN THERE'S A PROBLEM. NOISE, DRUG USE, DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY. NEIGHBORS HAVE CALLED AND ASKED FOR APD PRESENCE AT AN ENCAMPMENT. WE NEED TO KNOW MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHOSE SPECIFIC ENCAMPMENTS AND WHY THEY'RE CLEARED. WE CAN'T RESPOND TO THIS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: OKAY. CITY OWNED PROPERTY IN THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT WAS POSTED UNTIL A FEW DAYS AGO AS PRIVATE PROPERTY. THE SIGNS SAY PRIVATE PROPERTY NO TRESPASSING. LAST TIME I CHECKED CITY-OWNED LAND IS NOT PRIVATE PROPERTY IN THE SAME ARTICLE FROM THE ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL FROM DECEMBER 10 WHICH WAS A MONTH AGO, A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE CITY SAID THAT LOT AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN MARKED THAT WAY SINCE THEY'RE DUE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND THERE'S ONLY ONE SIGN FOR PREVENTING TRESPASSING. HE SAID IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR CITY LAND TO BEAR THESE SIGNS. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY WE'RE SIGNING LAND THAT IS CITY-OWNED PUBLIC PROPERTY AS PRIVATE PROPERTY. I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHERE ELSE WE PUT UP THOSE SIGNS ON CITY OWNED LAND? >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THE CITY USED THE SIGNS THAT IT HAD IN STOCK WHICH DID SAY PRIVATE PROPERTY. IT DID SO BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS DESIGNATED FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. IT IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BIAS -- BY THIS COUNCIL. WE'RE FENCING IT SO THE DEVELOPER CAN BEGIN WORK ON THE PROPERTY. WE RECOGNIZE THE SIGNS CAUSED CONTUSION. WE TOOK THEM DOWN AND PUT SIGNS THAT SAY NO TRESPASSING. WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO VERIFY THE CITY HAS USED THOSE SIGNS IN THE PAST FOR THESE TYPES OF PROPERTIES. THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE CITY-OWNED BUT UNDER PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. I DON'T KNOW WHICH WORKER SAID THAT, THAT MAY BE TRUE. WE'RE NOT ABLE TO VERIFY THAT. WE'RE NOT AWARE ANY THAT HAVE THOSE SIGNS AT THIS TIME AND WE'RE ORDERING ANY OTHER SIGNS. >> TO AVOID QUOTING THE NAME, BUT THEY'RE QUOTED BY NAME IN THE DECEMBER ARTICLE BY THE ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL. I ENCOURAGE THE ADMINISTRATION TO READ THE ARTICLES TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH THAT STAFF PERSON TO SAY PERHAPS YOU SHOULDN'T SAY THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL. BECAUSE I REALLY HELP IT IS. I WILL NOT SAY THEIR NAME OUT LOUD RIGHT NOW. I WILL AT THE NEXT MEETING IF WE DON'T GET RESOLUTION ON SOME OF THIS. I WATCHED SEVERAL VIDEOS MADE BY ADVOCATES AVAILABLE ONLINE. THEY'VE BEEN FLOATED TO APD. THEY SEEM TO BE GIVING LOTS OF WRONG INFORMATION TO FOLKS. ONE AN OFFICER SAID CITY PROPERTY IS PRIVATE AND THEREFORE UNHOUSED FOLKS CAN'T BE ON THAT PROPERTY. THE SAME PERSON THEN SAID THERE'S NO CAMPING ALLOWED ANYWHERE IN THE CITY AND ANOTHER SAID THEY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE GO TO CITY PARKS TO CAMP WHERE IT'S UP TO THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT TO REMOVE YOU. ANOTHER APD OFFICER TOLD ADVOCATES THAT THE INJUNCTION DOESN'T APPLY TO ANY PROPERTY THAT THE CITY DOESN'T WANT UNHOUSED ON. THIES ARE CONFLICTING AND MISLEADING. I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION. WHAT ARE WE TEALING -- TELLING PEOPLE TO SAY IN THESE SITUATIONS? WHAT KIND OF TRAINING, WHAT KIND OF HELP ARE WE GIVING OUR STAFF SO THEY'RE NOT SAYING SUCH RIDICULOUSLY CONFLICTING AND WRONG STATEMENTS TO CITIZENS WHO ARE OUT THERE WHO ARE UNHOUSED AND THE ADVOCATES TRYING TO HELP THEM AT THIS TIME? I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ANSWER THAT. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, APD IS REVIEWING THE VIDEOS. AS I MENTIONED, WE HAD MEETINGS SEVERAL TIMES, WE DEVELOPED A SCRIPT. WE DEVELOPED AN S.O. FOR APD. WE'LL REVIEW THE VIDEOS. IF ANY INFORMATION IS INCORRECT WE'LL INCREASE OUR TRAINING EFFORTS. WE ALSO CLEAR -- DEAL WITH HUNDREDS OF ENCAMPMENTS A WEEK AND A FEW MISSTATEMENTS ARE BOUND TO HAPPEN. WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO CONTINUE TRAINING TO AVOID MISINFORMATION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: LASTLY, I'VE SEEN VIDEOS AND PHOTOS OF A LOT OF THINGS BEING TAKEN FROM OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS, TENTS, SLEEPING BAGS, BLANKETS, I UNDERSTAND THAT IS STATUS QUO FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THE PICTURE OF WHEELCHAIR BEING TAKEN AWAY WAS VERY UP SETTING TO ME. WAS THERE ANYTHING, ANY BELONGINGS THAT IS NOT FAIR GAME TO BE TAKEN AWAY? >> COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THAT VIDEO PREDATES THE INJUNCTION. ALSO, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE -- EVEN BEFORE, BUT SINCE THE INJUNCTION IF THE PERSON IS ON A SIDE WALK FOR A SCHOOL, WHICH THE JUDGE EXEMPTED, WE DO ADVISE THEM THEY NEED TO LEAVE IMMEDIATELY. WE GIVE THEM TIME, GENERALLY 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR TO COLLECT BELONGINGS AND REMOVE FREM -- FROM THE SIDE WALK OF THE SCHOOL. OTHERWISE WE GIVE THEM 72 HOURS NOTICE. AFTER 72 HOURS OR MORE, WE COME BACK -- SO THAT PERSON HAS 72 HOURS TO COLLECT BELONGINGS. VERY OFTEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS WE'LL COME BACK, THERE ARE SOME BELONGINGS BUT THERE'S NO INDIVIDUAL THERE. AT THAT POINT SOLID WASTE WILL DESTROY OR THROW AWAY ANY OF THE ITEMS. A LOT OF PEOPLE WON'T COLLECT THEIR BELONGINGS. SO THERE WILL BE NO BELONGINGS AFTER THE 72-HOUR PERIOD. WE OFFERED STORAGE AND LOTS OF PEOPLE TAKE US UP. WE OFFER 96 GALLONS OF STORAGE PLUS ONE BIKE OR TENT. WE MAKE THE OFFER, THE CITY HAS A TRUCK AND WILL DRIVE OUT TO THE ENCAMPMENT WITH THE CONTAINER AND THE PERSON CAN CHOOSE WHAT GOES INSIDE THE CONTAINER. WE DO NOT -- THOSE ARE GENERALLY THE SCENARIOS WE HAVE HAD. THESE ARE UNSPECIFIED INCIDENTS WE CAN'T REALLY RESPOND TO. GENERALLY SPEAKING SOLID WASTE IS THROWING AWAY ITEMS LEFT BEHIND. THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. WE GO TO A PARK AND CLEAN IT EVERY OTHER WEEK. PEOPLE KNEW WE CAME AT WEDNESDAY AT 8 A.M. THEY LEAVE ITEMS BEHIND. MOST OF WHICH WERE REFUSE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THE CITY WAS GOING TO THROW THEM AWAY. AS FAR AS WE UNDERSTOOD THE INTENT OF LEAVING THEM BEHIND. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S INTENT TO LEAVE THEIR ONLY BELONGINGS BEHIND AND LEAVE THEM IN A TRASH CAN. I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD LEAVE THEIR WHEELCHAIR BEHIND. I HAD A VIDEO OF A WOMAN JUMPING INTO THE BACK OF THE SOLID WASTE TRUCK TO GET OUT THE SLEEPING BAG BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE THAT. IT'S THE ONLY THING SHE HAS. I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY LIMITS ON THE TYPE OF ITEMS WE TAKE AWAY AND PUT INTO SOLID WASTE TRUCK. I THINK THE ANSWER IS PROBABLY NO. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, WE FIND ABANDONED PROPERTY AND WE DO -- IF IT IS ABANDONED WE'LL DESTROY IT. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR ROGERS, FIRST. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. JUST WANTED TO ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. LOOKING AT THE CITY DOCUMENTS, POLICY FOR RESPONDING TO ENCAMPMENTS. ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. IT HAS A VERY SPECIFIC DEFINITION OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRIVATE AND PUBLIC PROPERTY. AND I KNOW YOU SAID IT WAS WE USED WHATEVER SIGNS WE HAD. IT DOESN'T HELP THE PUBLIC KNOW WHICH -- WHERE IS IT OKAY FOR THEM TO CAMP. SO, ARE THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE -- THAT OUR ADVOCATES CAN USE SO THEY CAN GIVE THE CORRECT INFORMATION TO PEOPLE? >> AGAIN, THE CITY USED THOSE BECAUSE THEY HAD THOSE AVAILABLE AND ALSO BECAUSE IT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT WITH A PRIVATE DEVELOPER. THEY THOUGHT THOSE WERE THE APPROPRIATE SIGNS AT THIS TIME. WE CHANGED THE SIGNS. REGARDALIZE OF WHETHER THE PLACE IS PRIVATE OR PUBLIC THE CITY CAN FENCE OFF A PROPERTY FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSES. IT'S NOT CLOSED TO THE UNHOUSED, IT'S CLOSED TO ALL PERSONS. ALL PERSONS, SECOND AND SILVER IS CLOSED TO ALL PERSONS RIGHT NOW. WHEN WE DO THAT WE CAN ENFORCE TRESPASSING. I GUESS I'M NOT QUITE SURE ON WHAT CLARIFICATION WE WOULD WANT. >>COUN. ROGERS: HOW DOES THE PUBLIC KNOW? IF WE'RE RELYING ON THE SIGNS AND THEY'RE WRONG, WHICH I THINK IS A MOOT POINT AT THIS POINT -- >> THE SIGNS ARE CORRECTED AND THEY DID SAY NO TRESPASSING AND THERE WAS A FENCE THAT PEOPLE REPEATEDLY DESTROYED. IT WAS QUITE CLEAR TO ANYONE THIS SITE WAS OFF LIMITS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THIS DOCUMENT DISCUSS LIMIT THE PROCESS ON WHEN STAFF GOES OUT. CAN WE GET A COPY OF THE PROCESS? >> COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN BY STAFF GOES OUT. >>COUN. ROGERS: WHEN THEY RESPOND TO ENCAMPMENTS, I LIVE IN WYOMING AND CENTRAL. WE HAVE CITY MARKED CARS AND ACS AND APD, WE HAVE SOLID WASTE BIG TRUCK DUMPING THINGS INTO THE TRASH BEENS. I RESIST THE URGE TO STOP AND ASK A QUESTION. THAT IS NOT MY LANE. FOR MY OWN KNOWLEDGE AS I'M IN THE COMMUNITY I CAN ACCURATELY TELL PEOPLE WHAT THE CORRECT PROCESS IS THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING WITHIN THE CITY WHEN WE'RE REACHING OUT TO FOLKS WHO ARE CAMPING OUTDOORS. >> YES, COUNCILOR ROGERS, WE CAN GET YOU SOME DOCUMENTATION. SOME OF OUR EFFORTS ARE IN MEETINGS AND TRAINING. WE ALSO HAVE DOCUMENTATION WE CAN PROBABLY PROVIDE SOME EXPLANATION. >>COUN. ROGERS: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. MY EXPERIENCING WORKING WITH THE CITY WE DON'T HAVE DESK MANUALS. SOMETHING SO WE CAN NIP THESE THINGS IN THE BUD WITH ONE DEPARTMENT, ONE OFFICER, WE'RE WORKING ON A PRESCRIBED PROCESS. AND WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TIME TRAINING FOLKS. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO RESPOND. I APPRECIATE COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN'S CONCERNS AND I THINK THEY'RE ALL VALID. I WANT TO SAY SOMETIMES IN SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE LOTS OF ENCAMPMENTS LIKE IN YOUR AREA. SOMETIMES WE'RE THE COMMUNITIES THAT BEAR THE BRUNT OF THIS ISSUE. SO WE HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO CITY PROPERTY, STATE PROPERTY, THAT REALLY WANT US TO CLEAR OUT THESE CAMPS AND REALLY FEEL LIKE THERE HAS BEEN A THREAT OR MAYBE A THREAT OR DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A THREAT BUT FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT HAVING PEACEFUL ENJOYMENT OF THEIR PROPERTY. IT'S A CATCH-22. THERE'S NO ANSWER. THAT'S WHY WE'RE STRUGGLING TO FIND SOLUTIONS AND WHAT WE DO. I WANT TO REFLECT ON THE RECORD, LIKE COMMUNITIES LIKE MINE, ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PEACEFUL ENJOYMENT OF THEIR PROPERTY. AND WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT TOO. THERE'S NO EASY SOLUTION EVEN THOUGH WE CARE DEEPLY AND WHERE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE HOMELESS CITIZENS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COUPLE. I THINK YOU CAN TELL WE'VE BEEN SAVING UP OUR QUESTIONS FOR THE LAST MONTH SINCE WE HAVEN'T BEEN HERE. MY FIRST ONE IS FOR DIRECTOR VARELA. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >>COUN. GROUT: I UNDERSTAND STAFF IS PLANNING A NEW SOFTWARE DEVELOPED FOR THE CITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IN THE FALL. WILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LEADERS BE INVITED TO TAKE PART IN THAT TESTING? >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. HAPPY NEW YEAR. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE PRESIDENT AND VICE-PRESIDENT. THE ANSWER IS YES. FOR THE LAST TEN MONTHS THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE EXTRACTION TECHNIQUES FOR THE CURRENT DATA TO MAKE SURE IT'S TRANSLATABLE TO THE NEW SYSTEM. THEY'RE MAPPING THE INTERNAL PROCESSES. THERE'S CLOSE TO A HUNDRED. WE'RE IN THE TESTING PHASE IF THE PROCESSES THAT ARE MAPPED AND CONFIGERED BY THE I. T. THIS IS QUALITY SURANCE -- ASSURANCE TESTING. WE'LL GO TO USER TESTING WITH THE PUBLIC AND OUTREACH. THAT WILL START IN APRIL. THAT WILL TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS. RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING IS ON TRACK. WE'RE HITTING OUR MILESTONES. DOING THIS CONVERSION PROPERLY. SO THAT THIS ONE IS A SUCCESS. HOPING TO GO LIVE LATE THIS CALENDAR. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, SIR. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. WE HAVE A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS THAT REACH OUT AND WANT TO BE IN THE OPT-IN LINE. JUST BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY DON'T HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THEY MISS INFORMATION. SO THEY WANT TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY. THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO HAVE THAT LINE ITEM WHERE PEOPLE CAN OPT IN AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT TO BE AVAILABLE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTIONS WERE FOR ADMINISTRATION. DR. SENGEL, THE ALBUQUERQUE HOUSING FUND. I HAD SOME QUESTIONS EARLIER THIS WEEK THAT I SENT TO YOU. I GOT A LOT OF ANSWERS FROM ADRIAN, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ONE ALBUQUERQUE FUND. AND I GOT A LOT OF ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS. IT ALSO OPENED MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME. FIRST OF ALL, WHEN I GO TO DONATE ALBUQUERQUE DOT ORG I LAND ON A CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WEBSITE TITLED THE ONE ALBUQUERQUE HOUSING FUND. I WAS TOLD THE ONE ALBUQUERQUE HOUSING FUND DOESN'T EXIST. IT'S JUST A LINE ITEM IN THE ONE ALBUQUERQUE FUND. SO THE ONE ALBUQUERQUE FUND IS A 501C3 CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION THAT IS ENTIRELY SEPARATE FROM THE CITY. SINCE THAT'S THE CASE, WHY IS THEIR WEBSITE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I TURN TO MY COLLEAGUE TO ASK IF HE KNEW THE ANSWER. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT AUMENT -- ALTHOUGH IT'S INDEPENDENT THE COMMUNITY SEES IT AS AFFILIATED. I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER AS TO HOW WE DID THE EXACTLY WHAT ENDS UP ON THE WEBSITE. IT'S A QUESTION I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP AND GET YOU AN ANSWER FOR. >> COUNCILOR GROUT, WE CAN GET YOU AN ANSWER. WE DO HAVE MANY LINKS ON OUR CITY WEBSITE THAT GO OUTSIDE OF THE CITY WEBSITE. WE CAN VERIFY WHETHER THIS IS ONE OF THOSE. LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW, I SEE ONE ALBUQUERQUE DOT ORG. THAT'S NOT A CITY WEBSITE. THAT'S AN OUTSIDE SITE. WE MIGHT LINK TO THAT. WE CAN VERIFY THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: ONE ALBUQUERQUE IS A 501C3 CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION. UNDER THE STATE'S ANTI- DONATION CLAUSE CAN WE PAY FOR THINGS LIKE WEB DESIGN AND THINGS WE SEE AROUND THE CITY? >> COUNCILOR GROUT, WITH ALL OF OUR NON-PROFITS, WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT AND FUNDING FOR IN-KIND SERVICES IN RETURN. DEPENDING ON WHAT OUR AGREEMENT IS, WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THEM AT THE TIME, THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO PARTICIPATE AND ASSIST THEM WITH WEB DESIGN OR OTHER ITEMS THAT THEY MAY NEED ASSISTANCE WITH IT IF WE HAVE SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT. THAT'S REALLY THE CRUX OF THE ANTI- DONATION CLAUSE IS WHAT WE'RE RECEIVING FOR THE VALUE. >>COUN. GROUT: DO WE HAVE AN MOU WITH THEM? >> THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. WE WILL MAKE SURE WE GET YOU THAT ANSWER. >>COUN. GROUT: IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, COULD YOU SEND ALL THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS TO ALL COUNCILORS. I KNOW LAST YEAR OR 18 MONTHS AGO WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT AND I THINK THAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO ONE COUNCILOR BUT NOT TO ALL OF US. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL KNOW SO WE'RE NOT REVISITING THE SAME THING. IS THE CITY PAYING THE CONTRACTORS CONTRACTS? >> WE WILL ABSOLUTELY PROVIDE THAT ANSWER IN A TOTAL REPORT FOR EVERYONE. >>COUN. GROUT: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE REMINDING ME. I HAD A MEETING WITH A CONSTITUENT LAST WEEK THAT SINCE THIS GOT BROUGHT UP, THEY INDICATED THEY'RE A CONTRACTED ORGANIZATION WITH THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, IF YOU'RE TALKING TO THEM, CAN YOU MAKE SURE TO TELL THEM THE AQUATIC CENTER IS NOT ONE SINGLE POOL OUTSIDE IN THE DIRT. THEY'RE GIVING MISINFORMATION TO MANY CONSTITUENTS. THEY'RE REACHING OUT TRYING TO LOBBY FOR IT. IF YOU CAN GO TO NORTH DOMINGY AQUATIC CENTER. IT'S NOT A SINGULAR HOLE IN THE GROUND FOR PEOPLE TO SPLASH. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. I JUST HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO GET QUESTIONS ANSWERED OF THE ONE ALBUQUERQUE FUND? WOULD IT BE TO YOU AND YOU ASK THEM AND YOU GET IT BACK TO US? >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, YOU ARE WELCOME TO ASKED QUESTIONS OF MS. -- I LOST HER LAST NAME. ADRIAN. I KNOW HER AS ADRIAN. I AM HAPPY TO FIELD ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. WE'RE GOING TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE YOU WITH THE INFORMATION. IT MAY LIKELY COME FROM ADRIAN AS HER FULL RESPONSE TO YOU ALL OF YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME TO ASK EITHER. >>COUN. ROGERS: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IN ADDITION TO THE INFORMATION WE'RE ASKING FOR, CAN I SEE THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND ONE ALBUQUERQUE FUND FOR THE HOUSING FUND? I WOULD LOVE TO ASK WHAT HAPPENED TO THE $1 MILLION THE COUNCIL DOLLARS THAT WENT THROUGH THE ONE ALBUQUERQUE FUND AS WELL. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE OUTCOMES OF THAT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COUNCILORS? THANK YOU. THAT COMPLETES QUESTION AND ANSWERS. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE JOURNAL. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE DECEMBER 4th JOURNAL. WE HAVE A SECOND. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THAT SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COMMUNICATION AND INTRODUCTIONS. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. THIS IS R-2, I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING R-2 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION. IT'S ESTABLISHING FEDERAL PROGRAMMING POLICY PRIORITIES FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND 2025. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND. WE'D LIKE TO MOVE R-2 OFF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. ALL THOSE -- WE NEED A TWO-THIRDS VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT IS UNANIMOUS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE M-1. MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING M-1 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION. IT'S URGING THE NEW MEXICO STATE LEGISLATURE TO CONSIDER COLLEGES TO THE NEW MEXICO PRE-TRIAL DETENTION SYSTEM OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT HAS CREATED AN UNACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF LAW NESS -- LAWLESSNESS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND ALLOW THE UP AND DOWN VOTE TO BE IN THE SENATE AND HOUSE FLOOR. >>COUN. GROUT: IS THERE A SECOND? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: SECOND. >>COUN. GROUT: WE HAVE A SECOND. WE NEED A TWO-THIRDS VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE REPORT OF COMMITTEE. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. THE FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MET ON MONDAY DECEMBER 11 AND REPORTS THE FOLLOWING ITEM. IN THE MATTER OF EC-383 THAT IT BE PROVED. IN THE MATTER OF O-92, R-188, R-192, AND R-194 THAT THEY DO PASS. IN THE MATTER OF O-95 DO PASS AND ACTED UPON IN THE MEETING WHICH IT'S REPORTED. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. I HEARD A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING MET ON DECEMBER 13. IN THE MATTER OF EC-413 -- R-196 DO PASS AND BE ACTED ON AT THE MEETING IN WHICH IT'S REPORTED. MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE HEARING. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR ROGERS. TO ACCEPT THE REPORT FROM THE LAND USE PLANNING COMMITTEE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT MOVES. MOVE TO DEFERRALS AND WITHDRAWALS. ANY AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE. LET'S MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE'RE MOVING ALONG NOW, RIGHT? ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY. FOR THE INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA WHO ARE BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE CONSENT AGENDA RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. WE HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES, THERE WILL BE AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL LEGISLATIVE RELEASES COMMITTEE MEETING ON WAEND JANUARY 17 AT 3 P.M. VIA ZOOM. THERE WILL ALSO BE A -- THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING SCHEDULED FOR WEDNESDAY JANUARY 17 IS CANCELED. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. THERE ARE NO FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS. NOW WE'RE ON TO APPEALS. AC-23-8. APPEALING THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINERS TO APPEAL CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW HORSE IN R1D ZONE WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL UPON THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 900 ALTA VISTA COURT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDEN -- ALLOW A HORSE AT A PROPERTY LOCATED IN AN R-1B RESIDENTIAL ZONE. WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL AGRICULTURAL ANIMALS CAN BE KEPT ON RESIDENTIALLY OWNED PROPERTIES IF THEY CONTAIN A HALF-ACRE OF LAND. ON AUGUST 30, 2023 THE EXAMINE APPROVED THE CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWING THE APPLICANTING TO BOARD A SINGLE HORSE ON THEIR PROPERTY. HOWEVER THE ZHE REQUIRED WITHIN ONE YEAR OF THE APPROVAL BY AUGUST 30, 2024 THE APPLICANT MUST MEET FOUR CONDITIONS TO MODERATE ANY HARMFUL EFFECTS THEY MIGHT HAVE ON NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES SUCH AS SMELL AND ATTRACTION OF FLIES. DILLY DISPOSAL OF MANUER. PLANTING A VEGETATIVE BUFFER AND CONSTRUCTING A SIX-FOOT TALL WALL. THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR APPEALED THE APPROVAL SAYING THE HORSE SMELLS AND BECAUSE IT'S NOT KEPT CLEAN IT ATTRACTS FLIES. THE APPELLANT CLAIMS THE APPLICANT HAS FAILED TO MEET THE CONDITIONS. THAT LAND USE HEARING OFFICER RECOMMENDS THE COUNCIL DENY THE APPEAL AND UPHOLD THE DECISION TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE WITH THE FOUR CONDITIONS. HOWEVER, THE LUHO RECOMMENDS THE CITY COUNCIL REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO FULLY COMPLY WITH THREE OF THE FOUR CONDITIONS. DAILY DISPOSAL OF MANUER. THE FOURTH CONDITION OF BUILDING A WALL CAN BE COMPLETED BY THE AUGUST 30th DUE TO TIME AND FINANCIAL CONTRAINT -- CONSTRAINT. THEY FOUND THE APPELLANT FAILED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY ERRORED. AND THE CONCLUSION AND DECISION ARE SUPPORTED BY SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND THE APPROVAL SHOULD BE UPHELD. THIS IS ACCEPT OR REJECT. WE WILL NOT HEAR FROM THE PARTIES. YOU CAN ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION AND FINDINGS IN WHICH CASE CONDITIONAL WILL BE APPROVED, OR ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION THAT ADOPT DIFFERENT FINDINGS OR REJECT THE FINDINGS WHICH WE'LL HAVE A FULL HEARING ON THE 22nd. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WE CAN ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OR ADOPT DIFFERENT FINDINGS OR WE CAN -- IT'S JUST ACCEPT OR REJECT, CORRECT? >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OR YOU CAN ACCEPT BUT ADOPT DIFFERENT FINDINGS OR REJECT AND GO TO FULL HEARING? >>COUN. GROUT: CAN WE DISCUSS ANYTHING? >> YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS. THIS WOULD BUMP UP THE TIME FRAME WHICH THEY NEED TO ADDRESS THE THREE ITEMS AND THEN LEAVE IT AT AUGUST 30th FOR THE WALL. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: SECOND. >>COUN. GROUT: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE COUNCIL IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY IF THEY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PERTHE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA. HERE ARE THE PUBLIC COMMENT GROUND RULES. EACH PARTICIPANT HAS TWO MINUTES TO PRESENT. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCILORS ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. AND ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING. THERE IS A TWO-MINUTE TIME LIMIT AND A BELL WILL RING TO INDICATE YOUR TIME IS UP. PLEASE CALL THE NAME OF THE FIRST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS FRANCHESCO FOLLOWED BY [ INAUDIBLE ] >> THE MISSION STATEMENT OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS TO PROTECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE OF OUR COMMUNITY. DEDICATED TO IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS BY FACILITATING TRANSPARENT, ORDERLY, SUSTAINABLE, AND STRATEGICALLY PLACED DEVELOPMENT. WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE TRANSPARENT? OPEN, AND HONEST. WITHOUT SECRETS, TELLING THE TRUTH, AND ABLE TO BE TRUSTED. I WAS RECENTLY CONTACTED ANONYMOUSLY BY THE ADMINISTRATION AND PLEASE, IF POSSIBLE, MAKE IT A FOLLOW UP. THE ADMINISTRATION'S PLANNING LEGISLATION VIA COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I THINK IT'S CALLED J TONIGHT, ENDS WITH PROVIDING PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS OF THE CODE. CAN WE THE PEOPLE PLEASE GET CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THAT MEANS? AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THINGS DON'T GO ACCORDINGLY TO PLAN. IN CONCLUSION, I AM STOKED TO SHARE WITH ALL OF YOU WITH KEEPSAKES THAT FEATURES ONE OF MY ORIGINALS THAT IS CURRENTLY PART OF THE ALBUQUERQUE PERMANENT PUBLIC ART COLLECTION. IT'S SLATED TO BE HERE AT CITY HALL. IT WOULD MEAN THE WORLD WHEN THEY TAKE IT OUT OF MOTH-BALLS AND PUT IT ON A WALL SOMEWHERE. I WOULD LOVE IF THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD COME. I KNOW MAYOR KELLER IS BIG ON THE ARTS. IN CONCLUSION, YOU REPRESENT DIFFERENT DISTRICTS BUT ITS CLEAR YOU'RE UNITED IN MAKING OUR CITY A MORE AWESOME PLACE THAN IT IS. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, I WANTED TO ASK, I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU'RE A REMARKABLE ARTIST. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESS, BUT I HOPE THE ADMINISTRATION HEARS THE REQUEST FOR FOLLOW UP FROM MR. ARTIST. THEY'LL MAKE SURE TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. THANK YOU. >> M BIRD BROWN FOLLOWED BY JAMES. >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL, FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND YOUR UNDIVIDED ATTENTION. RIGHT NOW ALBUQUERQUE IS MAINTAINING A SISTER CITY WHICH IS APARTHEID STATE. FAMILIES WERE DISPLACED PEOPLE WERE ASSAULT ASKED KILLED, HOPES WERE APPROPRIATED AND DISTRIBUTED TO PEOPLE FROM A DIFFERENT REGION IN THE GLOBE. THIS APARTHEID STATE REMAINS CERTAIN REZ DIDN'TDANTS MUST ELECTORAL PROCESS. THEY MAINTAIN CERTAIN CITIZENS HAVE RIGHT TO HOLD LAND THERE YET IN THIS PARTICULAR CITY THIS SECOND CLASS CITIZENSHIP IS DETERMINED THROUGH ETHNICITY. THERE'S A UNIVERSITY CAMPUS IN THIS CITY WHOSE RESEARCH HAS BEEN APPLIED TOWARD A VARIETY OF TECHNOLOGIES. THEY DEVELOP WEAPONS TO HAVE VIOLENCE TOWARD WHO THOSE ARE SECOND CLASS CITIZENS. THEY DEVELOP TECH THAT ALLOWED THE STATE TO SURVEILL CITIZENS WORKING TO WORK, HOMES, AND CLASSES AND FAMILY. AND SOMETIMES THIS TECHNOLOGY IS INSTALLED ON TOP OF HOMES. WE KNOW I'M TALKING ABOUT ISRAEL. AS A RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE I'M HORRIFIED THAT THREE MONTHS INTO THE GLOBAL AWAKENING TOWARD THE ISSUE OF PALESTINE WE'VE SEEN NO MOVEMENT FROM THIS CITY TOWARD TERMINATING THIS RELATIONSHIP. WHILE OUR CITY AND STATE ARE STILL RECKONING WITH OUR PAST OF INDIGENOUS GENOCIDE AND DISPLACEMENT ISRAEL IS COMMITTING THOSE ACTS TODAY. TODAY, DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS HAD TO EVACUATE ONE OF THE REMAINING HOSPITALS IN GAZA. A 4-YEAR-OLD GIRL WAS KILLED AT TRUCK POINT. THERE'S STILL NO FOOD OR WATER FOR FAMILIES IN THE WEST BANK. THIS IS WE WANT TO HAVE CULTURAL AND ECONOMIC EXCHANGE WITH? NO. APPEAL TO MAYOR KELLER IMMEDIATELY. -- END THIS RELATIONSHIP. ALBUQUERQUE WILL NOT FORGIVE YOUR COMPLACENCY OTHERWISE. >> JAMES FOLLOWED BY ANALIE. >> HELLO COUNCILOR GROUT, GOOD EVENING. FIRST I WANT TO WELCOME COUNCILOR ROGERS, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, COUNCILOR BACA, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING WITH YOU A COUPLE TIMES. I'M EXCITED FOR THIS YEAR. LET'S GET SOME HOUSING GOING. LET'S GET BUILDING GOING. IT FELT LIKE WE FINISHED THE YEAR OFF IN A GOOD PLACE. WE'VE GOT THE UPTOWN LOFT PROJECT COMING ON. I AM REALLY EXCITED. IT'S ABOUT 250 UNITS OUT OF THE 30,000 THE ADMINISTRATION SAYS WE NEED. I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HOPEFULLY GET MORE HOUSING GOING THIS YEAR. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING UP THOSE ISSUES ABOUT THE ARTICLE. I'M OUT THERE. I'M HANDING OUT FLIERS. I'M NOT A VIDEO TAKER. I WITNESSED SOME OF THAT. I'VE NEVER BEEN THREATENED BY POLICE OR SOLID WASTE, BUT I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE'S BELONGINGS TOSSED AWAY. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S 72 HOURS. WHEN THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE. AND IT'S EVERYTHING YOU POSSESS AND YOU HAVE NO WAY OF TELLING TIME. YOU ARE LITERALLY TELLING TIME WHERE THE SUN IS IN THE SKY AND JUST TELL SOMEBODY EVERYTHING YOU HAVE IN THE WORLD IS GOING TO BE THROWN AWAY IN THE TRASH. I NEVER HEARD THE CITY OFFERING STORAGE. I'M OUT THERE ALL THE TIME. I NEVER HEARD THAT OPTION. I'M REALLY EXCITED TO PASS THAT ALONG. I'VE NEVER HEARD THE CITY WAS OFFERING 96 GALLONS OF STORAGE TO ANYONE. NEVER HEARD IT. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS YEAR. HOPE IT'S A GREAT YEAR. THANK YOU SO MUCH, GUYS. >> ANALIE FOLLOWED RUDOLPH. >> GOOD EVENING. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN ALBUQUERQUE. I AM HERE TO URGE YOU TO CALL UPON MAYOR KELLER AND ASK HIM TO TERMINATE ALBUQUERQUE'S SISTER CITY RELATIONSHIP WITH ISRAEL. I AM A PROUD CHICANA WITH INDIGENOUS ROOTS AND I HAVE NATIVE FAMILY MEMBERS. I LIKE MANY OF THE FAMILIES IN YOUR DISTRICT ARE ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIED BY THE ETHNIC CLEANSING OF INDIGENOUS PALESTINIANS BY THE APARTHEID STATE THAT IS ISRAEL. WE DON'T WANT ANY TYPE OF EXCHANGE WITH A STATE THAT IS HELL BENT ON INFLICTING AS MUCH SUFFERING AS POSSIBLE ON INNOCENT CIVILIANS. WE NEED THIS COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TO STAND WITH INDIGENOUS PEOPLE NOT ONLY IN ALBUQUERQUE BUT WORLD WIDE. EFFORTS TO ASSERT INDIGENOUS RIGHTS BY THE BODY AND BYHE MAYOR MEAN NOTHING IF THEY'RE NOT ROOTED IN A PRINCIPLED STCE THAT AFFIRMS THE RIGHTS OF ALL INDIGENOUS PEOPLE. ALBUQUERQUE STANDSITH PALESTINE. ALBUQUERQUE STANDS AGAINST GENOCIDE. AND ALBUQUERQUE WANTS AN END TO THE CITY RELATIONSHIP. THANK YOU. >> RUDOLPH FOLLOWED BY NADINA. >> COUNCILOR GROUT, MEMBERS OF TH COUNCIL, CONGRATULATIONS. WE FINISHED THE BAB BOOMER COUNCIL F ONCE AND FOREVER. I'M SO GLAD YOU HAVE NO IDEA. NEW MIND NEW GOALS. THIS YEAR WE LOVE -- LASTEAR WE LOST60EOPLE IN THE STREETS. THAT WAS 30 LESS THAN THE YR BEFORE. WE INCREASED THE PEOPLE LEAVING BY 30%. THAT'S GOOD SIGN. WE HELP THE OLD MEN. THE ONE THA WA TREATMENT. WE STILL HAVE 60% THAT DON'T WANT OR WANT RECEIVE ORAV PTSDAND DON'T WANT TREATMENT. THEY'RE GOING TO BRKING WITH US. THE RST THIN I'M GOING TO A IS GOING TO BE TO ARREST THO THAT HAV BEENMOKING ON E STREET BECAUSEHERE ASKI FOR HELP. THEY NDLP. THEY'RE SCREAMING ARRESTME CAUSE MY DEALER IS GOING TO KILL ME IF I DON'T BUY MORE. THAT'S WHAWE'R LOOKING AT. OTHERS, TH'RE JUST PAR OF THE 2500 WE HAVE IN TH CITY AND THEY KICEM OUT THE NT DAY. THOSE ARE THE TWO PEMS WE HA THERE. IT AIGCOMPLEX THING. THE OTHER THING IS THAT THEY WILL DIE FROM COD. WEEED TO LEAVEHE BLANKETS. THE R. I'M A HORDER. BUT WEEED TO WK WITHAT. IF I TAKE YOUR BLANKET AND YOU DIE FROM D, IT MURDER. THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO SEE IT. AND THAVERNO. TH OTHER 30% IS THATHE PROJECT. WE ND ARAIL THA IBETTER THAN ENCAMPMEN WEOME. >> NADI FOLLODY CAELEB. CAEB FOLLOWED B JENNA. >> HI I AM A CITIZEN OF DISTRICTTW. M ALSO HER TO SPEAK ON BUQUERQUE'SIITY RETIONIP WITH EL. AND WHY THI RELATIONSHIP SHOD TERMINAT. OVERHE PASTEW MTHS THE REDENCE OF ALBUQUERQUAVE TAKE TOO STREETSOAVE OPSITI TOISRAEL'S OCPATI OF LESTINE. OSERE COMMITT AGAST DAILY AGAINST THE CITENS GAZA. THE SISTER CITRELAONSHIP IS - D WE WANT CULTURAL EXANGE WIT APARTHEID VIOLENCE? RE'S SE HISTORY. TH SETTLENTAS ESTABLI 1890 BY PISH IIGS O E UNSEEDED LANDF E PALESTINIANS AT T TE IT WA A TABLISHED VILLAGE WHICHAD BEEN AROUNFO HDREDS OF YES. OV T DECADES FOLLOWING T DISPUTESHATSUED.YERE LAND AND THISULMINATE IN 1948 WHEN E VILLAGE WAS FORCEFULL DEPOPULAD BY THE ISRAE MILITARY. TO THIS DAY THE ARE NO PALESTINT FOR THE ONES TATED AS SECOND AS CITIZENS. THE C OFLBUQUERQUE DOE VE A SIMAR HISTORY OF TTLER VIOLCE. THIS I BEING ACKWLEDD REDES ANDRE NO KEEN ON PERPETUATING THIS. ,AINTAINING CULTURAL EXANGE AND KEEPING GENOCE AN APAHEID IS NOT OF E BEST TERE OF THE PPL OF URGE THE CITY UNL TO APPEAL TO MAYOR KELLER TO ST E SISR CITY WH ISRAEL. THANK YOU. >> JEN FOLLOWEDY BECKS. >> , THE. I'M RESEN OF DISTRICT SIX I'M ALSO URGING THE CITY COUNL MB TO ENDUR CITY RELATIONSHIP WH ISRAEL. THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUQUE SHOWSED SUPPO FOR IMMEDTE CEASE FIR IN THE PLI OF THE PALESTINIAPELE. THE CIZOF OURCITY NATION AND GLOBE AREALLING ON OUR INSTITIONA LEADERS TO MIRROR D AMPLIFYHE SENTIMTS. WE'REEQUESTING TO B HEARD ON A LOCA LEVEL. ISRAEL WOULD BE BRGHT TO THE RNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE IN VIOLATI OF INTERNATIONAL TREATY ESTABSHEDY THE GENOCIDE CONNTION OF 1948. EACH DAY WE WITSSAMILIES DESTROYED AND ERADICATED DUE TO THIS. IF YOU'RE UNABLE TO CONDEMN THE ATTACKS OF THE INDIGENS PEOPLE ALESTINE HOP YOU FIND THE AMOUNT O SUFFERINGHILDREN IS ENOUGHO PROPEL YOU IN TERMINATG THE CY SISTER RELATIONSHIP. WHILE TH NUMBERS ARE DFICULT EPORT ON AS MANY ARE Y TO BE FOUND OR IDENTIFIED. THEY'RE TRAPPED UNDER RUBBLE OR BY TE FCES TAKEN THE LANDS. THE ESTIMATED NUMBER I 12,000. LEAST 24,0 CHILDREN SEPARATELY HAVE LOST ONE OR BOTH PARENTS. 18,000 HE BEEN SERIOUSLY INJURED WITH ABOUT0 CHILDREN A DAY HAVINGEEN LOST SCE BEGINNING OF THE GENOCIDE. BY CONTINUING OURISTER CITY RELATIONSHIPITH THE OCCUPIED CITY WE'RE CONDONING THE ACTIO OR DON'T SEE T DEATH OF CHILDR AS DPICABLE OR INHUMANEO CUT TIES. THE ALBUQUERQUE PEOPLE SHOULD NOT CHAN CULTURES WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE DEHUMANIZING AND RATIONALIZING THE SUFFERING O PEOPLE AND FAMILIES. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >> BE FOLLOWED BY ANDREA. >> GOOEVENING, CITY COUNCIL, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I'M HERE FOR THE GAZA. THEY HAVE MURDERED 63,000 WOMEN AND CHILDREN. IT'S AN ISRAEL SETTLEMENT BUILD ON THE PALESTINIAN VILLAGES. AND IN 1948 THROUGH MASSACRE AND -- RESIDENTS WERE FORCED TO LEAVE THE HOMELANDS DURING THE CATASTROPHE. YOU CAN COMPARE IT TO THE LONG WALK WHEN NAVAJO PEOPLE WERE IN THE SOUTHWEST ETHNICALLY CLEANSED AND OVER 10,000 PEOPLE WERE FORCED TO LEAVE THEIR HOMELAND. IT'S OFFENSE THAT THE SISTER CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE EVER HAD A SISTER CITY TIE IN APARTHEID RILLS. IN THE SPIRIT OF THE 2015 INDIGENOUS PEOPLE'S DAY WE'RE PRESSUING MAYOR KELLER TO STOP THE SISTER CITY. WE ALSO ASK YOU TO CALL THE NEW MEXICO CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION AS WELL AS JOE BIDEN TO SUPPORT PERMANENCY CEASE FIRE AND SUPPORT END TO THE SIEGE ON GAZA AND END AID TO ISRAEL AND FUND PEOPLE'S NEED LIKE AFFORDABLE PUBLICLY OWNED HOUSING, EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE, THINGS THAT MAKE SENSE, THINGS WE NEED NOT BOMBS TO MASS MURDER INDIGENOUS PALESTINIANS. >> ANDREA FOLLOWED BY JANICE. >> GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, WELCOME. I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW PROUD I AM OF MY FELLOW CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS OF WHAT THEY'RE STATING ABOUT OUR SISTER CITY INITIATIVE. I THINK IT'S AN ESSENTIAL CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE AS A CITY IN TERMS OF PARTICIPATION IN GLOBAL POLITICS. I ALSO WANTED TO WELCOME THE NEW COUNCILORS. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. JUST TO SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF, I'M PART OF THE INDICATORS PROGRESS COMMISSION. I WORK FOR THE JOHNS HOPKINS BLOOMBERG CENTER FOR EXCELLENCE. I WORKED AS A DATA ANALYST DURING THE HEIGHT OF COVID AND BEYOND THAT. IT'S WITH HIGH REGARD THAT I SPEAK BEFORE YOU AND PROVIDE PUBLIC AND WRITTEN COMMENT AND FOR WHICH I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL. IT'S ALSO WITH THE HIGHEST OF EXPECTATIONS THAT I DEFER TO YOU AS RESIDENTS MUST TO ENSURE THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE DECISION MAKING THAT WORKS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC AND OUR VARIOUS PUBLIC INTERESTS. I LIKE MANY OTHERS OVER TIME ADJUSTED EXPECTATION FOR SOME OF YOU AND UNDERSTAND THE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT THAT EXISTS FOR ALL PROFESSIONALS INCLUDING YOURSELF. PLEASE KNOW BY SITTING IN YOUR SEATS, AND IN YOUR POSITIONS OF RELATIVE POWER, WE ANTICIPATE THE BEST AND WE CALL FOR IT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SPEAK WITH R-242 BECAUSE I HAVE NOT SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THAT SPECIFIC BILL. I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THAT THERE BE FUNDING FOR MODERATELY PRICED DWELLING UNITS. THERE'S MANY NOT ABLE TO FIT WITHIN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENT FOR INCOME RESTRICTIONS. AND THERE ARE MANY THAT STILL CANNOT AFFORD HOUSING LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK. AND ADDITIONAL AMENITIES SUCH AS BATHROOMS AND HAND WASHING STATIONS TO BE PROVIDED. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEARING ME OUT. WELCOME. LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >> JANICE FOLLOWED BY CAMERON. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT TWO. I'LL BEGIN WITH A POEM ABOUT SOMEONE WHO I WILL CALL JAY. YOU WERE A FRIEND AND NEIGHBOR TO ALL. YOU MAY NOT HAVE HAD A HOME, BUT YOUR LIFE WERE WITHOUT WALLS. THE FIRST TIME WE MET YOU WERE HELPING YOUR GRAND MU. THE LAST TIME I SAW YOU YOU SAID YOU WERE THREATENED WITH A NO TRESPASS FROM YOUR SPOT. I DIDN'T KNOW OUR LAST VISIT WOULD BE IN THE GRAVEL THE DAY YOU'RE DISPLACED NEXT TO I-40. I WISH WE COULD HAVE TALKED LONGER THAT DAY OVER A FEW WEEKS. I WATCHED YOU SEVERAL TIMES. THE SLEEPING BAG THAT WAS DISCARDED BY THE CITY. I BROUGHT YOU A COMFORTER THAT WAS TAKEN TOO. ANOTHER SLEEPING BAG FROM A KIND PASSERBY. JAY YOUR HEART WAS WARM AND KIND. WE LOST YOU THIS DECEMBER. JAY YOUR MEMORY WILL NOT BE LEFT BEHIND. I HEAR THE CITY WORKERS TOOK YOUR LAST SLEEPING BAG LESS THAN A WEEK BEFORE YOU PAST AWAY. YOUR STREET FAMILY FOUND YOU DEAD FROM EXPOSURE THAT THEY WHAT BROUGHT YOU HERE TODAY. YOU DESERVE BETTER. DRINKING WATERS , BATHROOMS, NUTRITION, ONE SAFE PLACE TO REST. EVEN IF YOU PREFER TO BE IN A TENT INSTEAD OF A SHELTER. I LEARNED YOU HAD A DAUGHTER. I KEEP THINKING I'LL SEE YOU AROUND. THESE WORDS ARE IN HONOR OF YOU. I'M BESEECHING YOU MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL IMMEDIATELY STOP OUR TAX DOLLARS FROM CONTINUING SANITATION DISCARDING OF PEOPLE'S ABANDONED SLEEPING BAGS BLANKETS AND TENTS IN VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION AGAINST UNREASONABLE SEARCH AND SEIZURE WITHOUT A WARRANT. PEOPLE ARE DYING OUT THERE. PLEASE, I'M ASKING FOR YOUR HELP. ACT NOW. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >> FOLLOWED BY TAZMINE. >> HELLO, CITY COUNCIL. I WANTED TO GIVE A NICE WELCOME TO 2024 BY DEMANDING WE CUT ALL TIES WITH APARTHEID ISRAEL AND ESPECIALLY THE SISTER CITY THERE. I THINK IT'S NEVER APPROPRIATE TO DO A CULTURAL OR POLITICAL EXCHANGE WITH THE STATE THAT IS COMMITTING ATROCITIES. LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN DOING TO THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. THE FACT THAT THERE'S NOT EVEN BEEN A CALL FOR THE VERY MINIMAL CEASE FIRE SHOWS THE TRUE COLORS OF THE PEOPLE WHO GOVERN THE CITY AND STATE. I KNOW THAT YOU AS CITY COUNCILLORS MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO STOP THE SISTER CITY YOURSELVES, BUT I KNOW YOU CAN PUT PRESSURE ON TIM KELLER. I WANT TO SAY AGAIN, WE MUST CUT TIES WITH ISRAEL AS A WHOLE. THANK YOU. >> TASMINE FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA ON ZOOM. >> I'M A CONSTITUENT IN DISTRICT TWO. I'M HERE TODAY TO ADVOCATE FOR SIBLINGS AND FRIENDS IN PALESTINE BY DEMANDING ALBUQUERQUE END THE SISTER AFFILIATION. I WAS CURATOR AT THE NEW MEXICO HISTORY NEW MEXICO. IT WAS BUILD ON TOP OF PALESTINIAN TOWNS. THESE TOWNS WERE RAIDED AND PILLAGED IN 1948. LED BY THE ZIONIST TERRORIST GROUP. THESE OPERATIONS WERE PART OF THE CATASTROPHE WITH THREE QUARTERS OF PAIL PALESTINIANS EVICTED. ON THE 29th OF FEBRUARY 1948 THE ZIONIST MILITANTS BLUE UP A TRAIN SHORTLY AFTER IT LEFT, KILLING 29 BRITISH SOLDIERS. THE SAME TRAIN WAS ATTACKED TO BOMB THE TRACK. THAT MASSACRE KILLED 40 PALESTINIANS. RIGHT NOW IT'S OCCUPIED UNDER ISRAEL. IT ONLY GIVES RIGHTS TO JEWISH SETTLERS. MY FATHER IS OLDER THAN THE STATE OF ISRAEL. I REMIND YOU THAT WE LIVE ON UNSEEDED TIWA LAND. NO MATTER HOW MANY LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENTS WE RECITE OUR HANDS AND CONSCIENCES CANNOT BE WASHED OF THAT HISTORY. IT'S ONLY THROUGH OUR ACTIONS WE END CULL LOANULISM NOT ONLY BY RECTIFYING THE PAST BUT BY DISRUPTING PRESENT INJUSTICES. AND COMMITTING OURSELVES TO BUILD A LIBERATED FUTURE TOGETHER. IT'S IMPORTANT WHO WE DECIDE TO BUILD THAT FUTURE WITH. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >> JD FOLLOWED BY SARAH. >> I'M A RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE. I'M ALSO HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO URGE THE CITY TO END SISTER CITY STATUS WITH ISRAEL. RIGHT NOW WE'RE WATCHING A GENOCIDE TAKE PLACE IN GAZA. LIKE MANY HAVE SAID, ISRAEL IS TAKEN TO COURT FOR GENOCIDE IT'S COMMITTING. WE SEE THE ENTIRE WORLD STANDING WITH THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. I HAVE ORGANIZED WITH MANY PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE OF ALL DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS AND NONE OF US STAND WITH ISRAEL. ALL OF US STAND WITH PALESTINE. JUST LIKE EVERYBODY SAID, THIS CITY HAS ITS OWN HISTORY OF COLONIALISM. AND OTHERS SAID IT'S DISGUSTING THE SISTER CITY RELATIONSHIP IS CREATED IN THE FIRST PLACE. ISRAEL IS AN APARTHEID STATE. IT'S VERY CLEAR WE SEE THAT WITH THE BORDER WALLS THAT MAINTAIN THE LARGEST OPEN AIR PRISON WHERE WATCHING THE GENOCIDE HAPPENING IN GAZA. WE'RE SEEING THAT WITH ALL THE STOPS IN THE CHECK POINTS IN THE WEST BANK. MANY PALESTINIANS ARE FORCED TO STAY FOR HOURS THERE. OVER 10,000 CHILDREN HAVE BEEN MURDERED BY THE ILLEGAL OCCUPATION. WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO SAY WE WANT CULTURAL EXCHANGE WITH THE STATE OF ISRAEL. IT IS BEYOND DISGUSTING TO MAINTAIN THAT RELATIONSHIP. WE HAVE TO CUT TIES NOW. YOU AS PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE WHO HAVE CONSTANTLY GONE OUT EVERY SINGLE WEEK SINCE OCTOBER 7 SHOULD BE STANDING WITH THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE AND DEMANDING AN END TO THIS GENOCIDE AND END TO THIS SISTER CITY WE HAVE. AND AT THE BEAR MINIMUM A CEASE FIRE. >> SARAH FOLLOWED BY MARSELINE. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR GROUT, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WELCOME TO THE NEW CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE. ON DECEMBER 21st I WAS ONE OF A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS HONORING THE LOST LIVES OF 92 UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS WHO DIED ON THE STREETS OF ALBUQUERQUE IN THE YEAR 2023. I'M ASKING YOU TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION TO PREVENT THE DEATHS OF MORE PEOPLE IN THE COMING YEAR. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR RAISING R-123-178 IN NOVEMBER. I'M DISHEARTENED AND CONCERNED THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS OPPOSE SUCH SPACES TO PROTECT HUMAN LIFE. AS THE WINTER WEATHER IS UPON US AND THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS INCREASES I'M CALLING ON YOU TO SUPPORT THE APPLICATIONS. IN NOVEMBER I VISITED A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES SITE IN DENVER. I TURNED TO A QUIET STREET AND HAD TO SEARCH FOR THE PLACE BEHIND THE FENCE. SHELTERING 65 PEOPLE. THERE WAS NO SMELL GUIDING ME THERE. THERE WAS NO LITTER ON THE STREETED. NO BROKEN TENTS. NO ONE SHIVERING OUTDOORS. NO ONE HUNGRY. THIS IS SECURE SITE THAT SERVED AS A SAFE PACE FOR PEOPLE AFTER THEY RECOVER FROM TRAUMA AND MOVE OUT OF HOMELESSNESS. RESIDENTS HAVE PRIVATE SPACE FOR THEIR BELONGINGS. TOILETS, SHOWERS, MEALS, CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES, HEALTH SERVICES, COUNSELING ARE PROVIDED ON-SITE. THE HONOR OF HUMAN DIGNITY AND COMPASSION AND ALBUQUERQUE IS CAPABLE OF PROVIDING THIS. I WAS HOMELESS. I'M AMONG THE LUCKY ONES. I DID NOT DIE ON THE STREETS. NOW I AM YOUR CONSTITUENT CALLING ON YOU TO USE OUR POWER POWER TO CARE ABOUT PEOPLE. PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT NEED YOUR OTHER TO PICK BACK UP. PLEASE SUPPORT PEOPLE TRYING TO STAY ALIVE THIS COLD WINTER NIGHT. >> MARSELINE FOLLOWED BY ANGELINA. >> HI, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO START BY REITERATING WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TIES WITH THE STATE OF ISRAEL. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN FOR HER QUESTIONS AND HER WORK. ALL I REALLY WANT TO SAY TODAY IS A HOPE FOR EMPATHY. I WANT TO READ QUOTE FROM SUSAN YECH IN THE POLITICS OF ENDING HOMELESSNESS. SHE SAID MANY STUDIED DEVIANT CHARACTERISTICS OF HOMELESS PEOPLE AND DEFINE THESE AS THE CAUSE OF HOMELESSNESS. SHE CONTINUES ONE REASON PEOPLE EXHIBITING DEVIANT CHARACTERISTICS EXISTS IN THE HOMELESS POPULATION IS BECAUSE IT IS OFTEN THE MOST VULNERABLE GROUPS IN OUR SOCIETY THAT ARE FIRST TO FALL VICTIM TO SUCH CHANGE. ANOTHER REASON IS THAT THE REALITY OF BEING HOMELESS CAN CREATE SUCH DEVIANT BEHAVIOR IN PEOPLE. LIVING ON THE STREET IS PROBABLY AS MUCH OF A CAUSE OF MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE AS AN EFFECT. I PLEASE WITH THE COUNCIL, I PLEASE WITH THIS MAYOR TO CONSIDER THE VOICELESS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. IS IT REALLY CRAZY TO SAY WE WANT EVERY MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY HOUSED AND SAFE AT NIGHT. IS IT CRAZY TO SAY WE DON'T WANT ELDERLY AND DISABLED MEMBERS LIVING ON THE STREET. IT BECOMES SO EASY DISTANCE OURSELVES FROM THE PROBLEMS BUT THE MORE WE IGNORE IT THE MORE THE PROBLEM GROWS AND THE MORE DRASTIC IT WILL BE LATER TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. PLEASE, PLEASE, I BEG YOU TO ADOPT PERMANENT SOLUTIONS LIKE RENTER PROTECTIONS AND HOUSING FIRST POLICIES BEFORE THE NEED GROWS BEYOND OUR ACTIONS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >> ANGELINA. >> HI, I'M ALSO URGING THE CITY COUNCIL TO ENCOURAGE THE MAYOR TO END THE SISTER CITY RELATIONSHIP WITH ISRAEL. NEW MEXICANS GIVE $13 MILLION IN TAX MONEY. WE DID IN 2023. TO THE STATE OF ISRAEL FOR MILITARY OPERATIONS. AKA THE GENOCIDE AND REMOVAL OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE FROM THEIR LAND. AND WE'RE NOT HAVING IT ANYMORE. WE'RE FED UP. WHAT WE WANT IS PALESTINIAN HEALTH CARE. QUALITY EDUCATION AND BETTER CONDITIONS FOR OUR TEACHERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT AND FOCUS ON OUR PEOPLE'S NEEDS HERE INSTEAD OF DEVELOPING SISTER CITY RELATIONSHIP AND CULTURAL TIES WITH AN APARTHEID STATE. WE'RE FUNDING FOR THE GENOCIDE. IT'S ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE. THE PEOPLE OF NEW MEXICO DO NOT CONDONE IT. WE DON'T WANT OUR GOVERNMENT TO REPRESENT THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >> I'M NOT FINDING NADIA MARSH ON ZOOM. THAT CONCLUDESGENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING. I APPRECIATE YOU. BEFORE WE GO TO FINAL ACTIONS. I JUST WANTED TO TELL ADMINISTRATION I FORGOT TO SAY THIS DURING QUESTIONS, I WANTED TO GIVE A THANK YOU TO DMD. THE LAST WEEK WE HAD A COUPLE OF SNOW STORMS. AND I THINK THEY REALLY BEEN ON TOP OF THE STREETS THIS WEEK. MESA GOT HIT HARD AND SO DID THE SOUTHEAST HEIGHTS. I WAS ABLE TO GET TO WORK AND MY NEIGHBORS WERE ABLE TO TOO. JUST THE NORTHEAST HEIGHTS WE WERE REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE TIME THEY DID TAKE THERE. PLEASE PASS ON MY THANK YOU TO THEM. IT WAS REALLY NICE. THANK YOU. NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO FINAL ACTIONS. R-196. IT'S AMENDING THE LEVEL OF COMMUNITY FRAMEWORK PLAN FOR MESA DEL SOL TO CHANGE THE ALLOWABLE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FROM 80 FEET TO 11 FEET. AND -- AS APPROVED BY THE EPC. I MOVE A DO PASS. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN SECONDS THAT MOTION. LET'S SEE. R-23-196 IS QUASI-JUDICIAL REQUEST. IT REQUIRES SPECIAL PROCEDURES TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT, STAFF AND PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THIS AGENDA ITEM WILL PROCEED AS FOLLOWS. COUNCIL PLANNING STAFF PRESENTATION IS FIVE MINUTES. THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION IS TEN MINUTES. TESTIMONY BY PUBLIC SPEAKERS TWO MINUTES EACH. REBUTTAL BY THE APPLICANT, FIVE MINUTES. CROSS EXAMINATION BY ANYONE WHO SPOKE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT TWO MINUTES EACH. COMMENTS BY PLANNING DEPARTMENT, IF ANY. FIVE MINUTES AND COUNCIL PLANNING STAFF CLOSING COMMENTS FOR FIVE MINUTES. CITY STAFF AND THE APPLICANT MUST BE SWORN IN. IF YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THIS, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU AFFIRM UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY WILL BE TRUE? THANK YOU. MS. MORRIS, I BELIEVE YOU'RE ON ZOOM. PLEASE BEGIN YOUR INTRODUCTION. SHE'S NOT THERE? MR. MORROW, ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK FOR HER? >> SHE'S ON HER WAY FROM UPSTAIRS. SHE'LL BE HERE ANY MOMENT. >>COUN. GROUT: PERFECT. WE'RE STILL GOING TO GET OUT OF HERE EARLY TONIGHT WHICH WILL BE NICE. KNOCK ON WOOD. AND WE'LL HAVE DINNER AFTER WE'RE FINISHED. MR. MORRIS SON HER WAY FROM UPSTAIRS. SHE'LL BE HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. THERE SHE IS. >>COUN. GROUT:ING I NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN. WILL YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU AFFIRM UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY WILL BE TRUE? THANK YOU. GO AHEAD AND PROCEED. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. THIS IS R-196. AMENDING THE LEVEL A COMMUNITY FRAMEWORK PLAN FOR MESA DEL SOL TO CHANGE THE ALLOWABLE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FROM 80 FEET TO 110 FEET AND TO ALLOW NRGN LAND USE ON SPECIFIC PROPERTIES IN THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AS APPROVED BY THE EPC. NEXT SLIDE. ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, SOME CONTEXT. THIS IS THE PLAN AREA. IT'S LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEAST AREA OF ALBUQUERQUE. SOUTH OF THE AIRPORT. THE MAP ON THE SCREEN SHOWS THE MESA DEL SOL AREA CIRCLED IN RED. IT'S A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY IN DISTRICT SIX. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THERE IS A HIERARCHY OF PLANS THAT GOVERN THE MESA DEL SOL AREA LEVEL A PLAN WHICH IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS THE POLICY AND DOCUMENTS. THIS COVERS THE ENTIRE MESA DEL SOL AREA. THE LEVEL A PLAN WAS APPROVALED BY COUNCIL AND CAN ONLY BE AMENDED BY COUNCIL. THE LEVEL B PLAN COVERS AREAS WITHIN THE LEVEL A PLAN AND CONTAINS MORE DETAILED LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION STANDARDS. AND IS APPROVED BY THE EPC. LEVEL C PLAN AND SITE SPECIFIC PLANS AND ALSO APPROVED BY EPC. THE LEVEL A PLAN IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. IT'S THE ONE YOU HAVE TO VIEW OVER. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THERE ARE TWO CHANGES BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. BOTH CHANGES ARE SPECIFIC ONLY FOR THE 30-ACRE PROPERTY. IT'S SHOWN IN RED ON THE SLIDE. THIS IS ALSO TRACT D1A. KAIROS POWER IS SEEKING RESEARCHING DEVELOPMENT AND MANUFACTURING FACILITY. THE TWO CHANGES ARE AN INCREASE IN HEIGHT FROM 80 FEET TO 110 FEET AND HAD YOU HEAVY AND SPECIAL MANUFACTURING. THIS IS ZOOM IN OF A LARGER VERSION OF THE CONTEXT MAP FOR YOU. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S IN THE NORTHERN END OF THE MESA DEL SOL AREA. CLOSE TO THE AIRPORT. CITY COUNCIL IS THE APPROVAL BODY FOR THE MASTER. THERE'S A LETTER FROM THE FAA IN THE RECORD INDICATING THERE'S NO HAZARD FOR AIR NAVIGATION. A PRESENTATION WAS MADE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ON JULY 7th. INITIALLY THERE'S OPPOSITION TO THE HEIGHT INCREASE, HOWEVER THIS OPPOSITION WAS DROPPED WHEN IT WAS CLARIFIED THE HEIGHT INCREASE WAS SPECIFIC ONLY TO THE ONE 30-ACRE PARCEL. EPC APPROVED BOTH THE LEVEL B PLAN AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON SEPTEMBER 1, 2023. THE EPC RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MS. MORRIS. THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT, NEW COUNCILORS, WELCOME. I AM PRINCIPLE WITH CONSENSUS PLANNING. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND THIS COMPANY. AND THIS IS REALLY EXCITING EFFORT AND I HOPEFULLY -- HOPEFULLY YOU WILL SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. TO HELP CONTINUE THE EFFORTS OF KAIROS POWER IN MESA DEL SOL. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO NOTE MS. REYNOLDS SENIOR MANAGER OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS TEAM IS ON THE CALL AS WELL. SHE'S WITH KAIROS POWER. I'LL BE BRIEF. WE WORKED WITH IS -- CITY STAFF. MESA DEL SOL ASSOCIATION, THE MASTER DEVELOPER. AND WITH NEIGHBORHOOD, CITY STAFF, EPC AND LUPZ COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPROVAL. THIS AMENDMENT AFFECTS THE NEXT PHASE OF KAIROS POWER PROJECT AT MESA DEL SOL. I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON COUPLE OF THINGS RELATED RELATED TO THEM. THEY'VE BEEN AT MESA DEL SOL FOR A WHILE. THEIR MISSION IS TO ENABLE THE WORLD'S TRANSITION TO CLEAN ENERGY WHILE IMPROVING QUALITY OF LIFE AND PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT. A BOLD STATEMENT. AND THEY'RE DOING IT. THEY'RE WORKING ON IT. KAIROS POWER CHOSE ALBUQUERQUE FOR THIS SITE OF THE STATE OF THE ART NONNUCLEAR TESTING AND MANUFACTURING FACILITY THAT ALLOWS RAPID ITERATIVE LEARNING CYCLES TO ACCELERATE INNOVATION. THAT ALSO SOUNDS BOLD. THEY'RE MAKING MAJOR INVESTMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE TO ACHIEVE COST CERTAINTY THAT THEIR TECHNOLOGY ALIGNED WITH THE VERTICAL INTEGRATION STRATEGY. THEY APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY IN THE FORM OF INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BOND AND SUPPORT FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT FROM THE CITY. KAIROS AND IS WORKING WITH THE NEW MEXICO ECONOMIC DEPARTMENT TO GROW CAPABILITIES IN ALBUQUERQUE WHILE BRINGING VALUE TO THE REGION. THE NEARLY 100 EMPLOYEES AT KAIROS POWER SOUTHWEST, EXCEEDED THE INITIAL COMMITMENT TO CREATE 65 NEW JOB INS ALBUQUERQUE. THEY'RE LOCAL TO NEW MEXICO. 45% OF NEW HIRES ARE UNDER REPRESENTED MINORITIES. KAIROS POWER IS PARTNERING WITH THE NEW MEXICO WORKFORCE CONNECTION, UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO, CENTRAL NEW MEXICO COMMUNITY COLLEGE, CNM, AND LOCAL TRADE SCHOOLS TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS TO JOIN THEIR TEAM AND THEIR MISSION. THEY'RE PROUD TO OFFER A STRONG INTERNSHIP PROGRAM WHICH PROVIDES HANDS ON TRAINING, MENTORSHIP AND CAREER DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO LOCAL STUDENTS. THIS IS -- IT'S VERY COOL THIS IS HAPPENING IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND THIS PROJECT WILL ENABLE THEM TO DEVELOP THE NEXT PHASE OF THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AT MESA DEL SOL. I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE WORKED WITH CITY STAFF ON THIS APPLICATION AND STRUCTURED IT IN A WAY THAT THIS AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW OTHER COMPANIES AT MESA DEL SOL EMPLOYMENT CENTER TO PURSUE AMENDMENTS LIKE THIS THAT ARE SITE-SPECIFIC AND THAT CAN BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE FUTURE. WITH THIS AMENDMENT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ONCE AGAIN, RESPON RONDA IS ON CALL. IF THERE'S ANY HARD QUESTIONS, SHE CAN ANSWER THOSE. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD COMPANY AND A GOOD PROJECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, WE NEED TO SWEAR IN THE INDIVIDUALS SPEAKING ON THIS. PLEASE SWEAR EVERYBODY IN SPEAKING ON THIS ISSUE. >>COUN. GROUT: THAT WOULD BE OUR SPEAKERS TOO? IF YOU ARE SPEAKING ON THIS TOPIC, I NEED YOU TO RAISE YOUR HAND. REPEAT AFTER ME. DO YOU AFFIRM UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY WILL BE TRUE? OKAY. THAT WAS ON ZOOM TOO? TESTIMONY BY PUBLIC SPEAKERS. WOULD THAT BE OUR LIST? WOULD THAT BE OUR LIST OF PUBLIC SPEAKERS? MR. CORNELIUS. CALL THE ROLL. >> I HAVE RUDOLPH FOLLOWED BY ANDREA ON THE LIST. >> MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WE ARE AN OLD CITY WITH OLD TRADITIONS AND GOING HIGH IS ALWAYS A BIG PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, AND WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. WE NEED TO MOVE TO REALIZE THAT WE ARE NOW LIKE MEGA CENTER FOR THE WHOLE UNITED STATES TO MOVE TO TRY TO GET AWAY FROM GLOBAL WARMING, AND HURRICANES AND FROM THE TRAGIC ECONOMIC EVENTS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD. I WAS THINKING GOING 20 STORIES HIGH. BRING ALL THE PEOPLE HAVING THE CRISIS IN FLORIDA. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MILLIONS COMING FROM FLORIDA. WE NEED TO START THINKING THAT WE NEED TO JUST PUT THE PAST BEHIND AND MOVE TO WHERE WE CAN WELCOME EVERYBODY IN DISTRESS EVERYWHERE ELSE. ESPECIALLY GOOD COMPANIES. LET'S DO IT. LET'S MOVE UP. LET'S SKYROCKET. I MAKE A NEW CITY. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. I HOPE YOU GUYS PASS THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >> ANDREA. >> HELLO, AGAIN. BEFORE I START MY PUBLIC COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE ROOM. I'M NOT ONE OF THEM ANYMORE. IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE YOUTH IN THE ROOM TO REALLY EXPERIENCE GOVERNMENT SO THEY CAN GET INVOLVED FROM THE BEGINNING. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I ALSO WANTED TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS. I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY FORWARD THINKING. AND REMINISCENT OF POLICY PASSED IN AUSTIN, PORTLAND AND VIRGINIA WHO HAVE ALSO DONE AWAY WITH PARKING REQUIREMENTS OR ESTABLISHED IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. THOSE THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS ELIMINATING SUCH PARKING REQUIREMENTS DID NOT PASS AS A PART OF HOUSING FORWARD BUNDLE AS IDO AMENDMENTS. IT'S EXCITING TO SEE THAT EFFORT THAT INCREASE NUMBER OF UNITS PER BUILDING. LAND FOOTPRINT, I GUESS, LEADING TO SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT PRACTICES. AND I HOPE THAT YOU CONTINUE TO CONSIDER LEGISLATION THAT FURTHERS GOALS AS SUSTAINABILITY AND ENSURING WE'RE USING LAND USE IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY WITH COMPANIES THAT ARE DOING REALLY GREAT WORK INORY COMMUNITY. AND SO, I UNDERSTAND THAT UNLIKE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, SOME FOLKS ON THE COUNCIL OR MAYBE JUST ONE MIGHT BE IN THE BUSINESS OF ASPHALT PAVING AND WOULD POTENTIALLY -- I THINK THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A CONFLICT OF INTEREST HERE. WE'RE LOOKING AT MARKET SHIFTS. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. I DON'T THINK INDUSTRY IS NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE FORWARD-THINKING OF THOSE THINGS COMING TOGETHER. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU AND URGE YOU TO SUPPORT PASSING THIS BILL. >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. LET'S GO TO REBUTTAL BY APPLICANT. DO WE HAVE ANY REBUTTAL? >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THEY WERE ALL IN SUPPORT. I THINK THAT'S GOOD. COMMENTS BY PLANNING DEPARTMENT? NOPE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL PLANNING STAFF CLOSING. >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. I DON'T HAVE ANY CLOSING COMMENTS. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILORS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANYBODY? I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. IT'S NICE TO SEE A BUSINESS DOING WELL. AND I LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT. I LIKE THE GROWTH. I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY. AND IT'S NICE TO SEE THEY MET AND EXCEEDED THEIR EXPECTATIONS. YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO INTEREST -- FOR THE CITY. I THINK WE NEED MORE PROJECTS LIKE THIS. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. ADMINISTRATION, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, WE URGE YOUR APPROVAL AS THIS IS AN EXCITING PROJECT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. ANY OPPOSED? IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM B. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. R-2 IS ESTABLISHING FEDERAL PROGRAMMING AND POLICY PRIORITY FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IS THERE A SECOND? -- >>COUN. GROUT: ANY DISCUSSION? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THIS IS THE PRODUCT OF THE WORK FROM THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS MEETING. THEY MEET REGULARLY. COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR BASSAN, AND I REPRESENT CITY COUNCIL IN THAT. THIS IS JUST A CULMINATION OF ALL OF THE PRIORITIES THAT WERE GIVEN TO US FROM ALL OF THE DIFFERENT COUNCILORS. I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. WE HAVE UNANIMOUS CONSENT ON ALL OF THE INGREDIENTS IN THIS BILL. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. JUST A FEW THINGS IN THE LIST OF PRIORITIES. UNDER REQUEST FOR NEW FEDERAL POLICY AND PROGRAMS. FIRST OF ALL, ARE WE SAYING THIS IS THE POLICY OF THE CITY COUNCI -- ESSENTIALLY THIS IS SAYING -- BY VOTING FOR THIS WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE POLICIES REQUESTS IN THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT. I THINK IT'S INTENDED TO BE THAT WAY. I GUESS I WOULD ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE PRIORITY OF PAID SICK LEAVE. IT SAYS ADOPT LEGISLATION GUARANTEEING PAID SICK LEAVE FOR EMPLOYEES. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IT'S THE POLICY OF THE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT PAID SICK LEAVE >> AND ALSO, STUDENT LOAN DEBT RELIEF. IS IT TO ADOPT LEGISLATION ELIMINATING THE STUDENT LOAN DEBTS? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IN THIS LEGISLATION? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS UNDER THE ORDINANCE THIS ESTABLISHES THE CITY'S PRIORITIES, IT'S A POLICY RESOLUTION. THE RESOLUTION MAKES A POLICY -- AND THIS SETS FORTH THE PRIORITIES. THEY'RE SENDING THIS TO THE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. THERE'S OTHERS IN HERE, AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S AREAS IN MY DISTRICT WHERE WE HAVE NEW GROWTH AND NEED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IN THOSE AREAS. I THINK IT'S HEAVY ON THE NEEDS OF OTHER DISTRICTS. I DO HAVE ISSUES. I DO NOT AGREE WITH IT BEING A POLICY OF THE COUNCIL AND POLICY OF THE CITY. I WOULDN'T WANT US TO MISTAKENLY THINK THAT BY AGREEING TO THIS BILL THAT WE'RE TAKING SOME OF IT AND NOT ALL OF IT. I CAN SAY I VOTED TO THIS AND ONLY AGREED ON PARTS OF IT. I THINK VOTING FOR IT WE'RE SAYING WE AGREE ON ALL OF IT. CERTAINLY THE TWO I MENTIONED, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THIS COUNCIL AND FOR THE CITY TO SAY THIS IS OUR PRIORITY AND THIS IS OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. JUST TO ADD TO COUNCILOR LEWIS'S COMMENTS. WE WENT BACK AND FORTH ON THAT MULTIPLE TIMES. WE DID TRY TO CONTACT AND I THOUGHT WE KID -- DID WITH ALL COUNCILOR FOR THE REVIEW OF THE BILL SO THEY CAN TELL US -- BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. SAYING THIS IS SOMETHING WE ALL AGREE ON. THIS IS A COMPROMISE WHERE I KNOW WE REITERATED ALL NINE COUNCILORS, THE MAYOR, SHOULD MAKE SURE WE ARE IN AGREEMENT. I KNOW IT GOT KIND OF VOLLEYED BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN EVERYONE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO TAKE SOME OF IT OUT, PERHAPS, COUNCILOR LEWIS. SO WE CAN MAKE SURE TO BE INCLUSIVE AND REPRESENT EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL. AT THE SAME TIME, I KNOW MY INTENTION, AND IT SEEMS THE INTENTION OF THE CALLESIAN ON THE COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE WE DID OUR BEST TO COMPROMISE TO INCLUDE EVERYONE'S INTEREST FOR THE MOST PART. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: CERTAINLY NO COMPLAINT ABOUT THE PROCESS. I GUESS MY FIRST RECOMMENDATION TO BE DEFER IT AND THEN ALLOW US TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD AMEND THOSE TWO STATEMENTS OR IF -- DWLNG -- I THINK THE SPONSORS WOULD HAVE TO AGREE AN AMENDMENT. I PROPOSE AMENDMENT TO STRIKE THOSE TWO PRIORITIES. >>COUN. BASSAN: I PERSONALLY PREFER WE MAKE AMENDMENT TONIGHT. WE HAD AN ORDINANCE DEADLINE AS DECEMBER. I WOULD BE AMENABLE TO PERSONALLY HEARING AND DISCUSSING AND AMENDING ANY POTENTIAL WITH THIS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE WHOLE COUNCIL. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. ADMINISTRATION, WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE TO SAY? >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE THAT I WAS NEW TO THE TEAM AND I APPRECIATED THE PROCESS I SAW HAPPEN WHICH WAS ABSOLUTELY A PROCESS IN WHICH COUNCIL HAD OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE FEEDBACK. WE MADE MANY VERSIONS AND EDITS AND ADMINISTRATION DID AS WELL. WE CONTRIBUTED. I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS AREA WE'RE SPEAKING TO HAD A LOT OF VOLLEYING GOING ON IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARD. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE LAST PAGE IS REALLY JUST FOCUSED AREA IN WHICH WE'RE LOOKING FOR BEING VERY CLEAR FOCUSED IN TERMS OF EARMARKS AND LEGISLATIVE SUPPORT COMING. AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS INCLUSIVE OF THE COUNCILORS DESIRES AND THE ADMINISTRATION. I APPRECIATED THE PROCESS THAT WE TOOK BECAUSE I THINK IT REALLY DID CREATE CONSENSUS AMONG THE COMMITTEE. AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, WHICH I WAS BRAND NEW, THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, FOR WALKING WITH ME IN THAT. I RECOGNIZE THAT IF A COUNCILOR FEELS SOMETHING ISN'T REPRESENTATIVE IT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE FOR AN AMENDMENT FROM FLOOR. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, AGAIN NO PROBLEM WITH THE PROCESS. I REALIZE THAT'S HOW THESE THINGS ARE DEVELOPED. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO STRIKE PAID SICK LEAVE AND MAKE AMENDMENT TO STRIKE STUDENT LOAN DEBT. I THINK THIS IS VERY CONTROVERSIAL AND OUR COMMITTEE SPOKEN VERY LOUDLY IN DIFFERENT FORMS AND WAYS IN THE PAST VOTING OF DIFFERENT BELIEFS ON THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S -- CERTAINLY THOSE TWO WOULD REFLECT THAT I WOULDN'T WANT TO REPRESENT IN A BILL LIKE THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF OUR STAFF COULD HELP US QUICKLY WITH AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD STRIKE THOSE. >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR LEWIS, BASICALLY IT WOULD SAY AMENDMENT ON ATTACHMENT ONE OF THE RESOLUTION, REQUEST FOR NEW FEDERAL POLICY AND PROGRAMS, STRIKE THE ITEMS PAID SICK LEAVE AND STUDENT LOAN DEBT RELIEF. >>COUN. GROUT: I SECOND THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. I GUESS THIS WOULD BE FOR OUR STAFF OR FOR -- THIS HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST. USUALLY, WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD, TOM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD TO REVAMP THIS PROCESS. EARLY ON I KNOW WHEN I WAS ON IGR THIS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. IT DOES BECOME THE POLICY OF THE CITY. RIGHT NOW WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AMENDMENTS THERE'S SOME COUNCILORS THAT BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE IN. I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH IT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN -- WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT CAPITAL PROJECTS RATHER THAN POLICY FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS COMBLFN -- I KNOW NOTICED WE INSERTED POLICY INTO THIS LEGISLATIVE THING. IS POLICY PART OF THE REQUIREMENT? I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS AS WE PREPARE THIS, IS IT REQUIRED TO CONTAIN POLICY? OR MEMORIALS? BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE STATE I KNOW WE NEGLECTED TO PUT SOME OF THE MEMORIALS IN OR WE PUT THEM ALL IN. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO CITY COUNCIL. WHAT IN THAT PROCESS IS OUTLINED THAT WE HAVE TO DO? >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR PEÑA, IN THE PROCESS IN THE ORDINANCE, IT DOES NOT SPECIFY YOU HAVE TO PUT IN WHAT YOU PUT IN EXCEPT YOU PUT IN PRIORITIES. IT'S DEVELOPED OVER TIME WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE. THE FACT WE HAVE THE SUBCATEGORIES, THESE DEVELOPED OVER A MATTER OF YEARS. IF I CAN STEP BACK, REGARDING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE IT'S DEALING WITH LARGE POLICY OR POLICIES THAT HAPPEN NOT OVER ANY GIVEN TIME, THE NATIONAL POLICY TAKE DECADES SOMETIMES TO REALIZE. WE CONTINUE OVER OUR PRIORITIES EVERY YEAR WHAT WE DO IS CONTINUE THE SAME PRIORITIES WHEN WE START OUT. THESE PRIORITIES ARE ADDED OVER THE YEARS, AND HOW WE DID IT IS TWO WAYS. THE COUNCIL STAFF REACHES OUT TO THE COUNCILORS THROUGH EMAIL WHICH WHICH WE DID IN NOVEMBER. LATE NOVEMBER OR EARLY DECEMBER. AND TO MARE -- THEIR POLICY ANALYST, THEY ASKED IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD OR REMOVE. WE FOLLOW UP WITH A PHONE CALL WITH THAT. IF NOT, KEEP THE SAME PRIORITIES OR IDENTIFY THEY'RE NO LONGER AN ISSUE. BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN TAKE YEARS. AS FAR AS WHICH PRIORITIES GO IN, THAT'S UP TO WHAT YOU PROVIDE TO US AND YOU DECIDE GOES IN. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, MAYBE FOR MR. PADILLA OR THE ATTORNEYS TO REALLY ASK THE QUESTION, YEAH, THE PROCESS IS PROCESS. WE'RE DOING THIS AND INITIALLY WE NEED TO FOCUS ON CAPITAL AND WE STARTED AGAIN REVAMPING AND DIGGING DEEPER INTO OPPORTUNITIES WE HAD OUT THERE AND WHAT WE COULD DO AND COULDN'T DO WE STARTED MAKING POLICY CHANGES DECISIONS IN HERE THAT DON'T NECESSARILY REFLECT THE BODY AS A WHOLE. I'M SAYING ARE WE REQUIRED TO PUT THOSE POLICY DECISIONS? >> NO. YOU'RE JUST REQUIRED TO PUT THE -- THE COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION ARE REQUIRED TO PUT IN WHAT THE CITY REQUIRES ITS TO BE PRIORITIES. WHETHER CAPITAL OR POLICY IS NOT SPECIFIED. JUST WHAT YOU CONSIDER TO BE PRIORITIES. THESE CATEGORIES DEVELOPED OVER TIME AS THE COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION ADDED THEM AND HOW THEY BEST THOUGHT TO ORGANIZE THEM. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. I THINK WHEN WE TALKED TO FEDERAL LOBBYIST IN PARTICULAR, I THINK THEY -- I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED FROM THEM IS AS WE'RE ADDING ALL THESE PRIORITIES AND WE'RE CONVOLUTING THE WHOLE PROCESS AND WE SHOULD JUST CREATE A DOCUMENT JUST AS THE CITY HAS ONE TO ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY. WE WANT YOU TO ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY AND HOMELESSNESS. AND BASED ON THAT THEY HAVE A DIRECTION OF WHERE TO GO FOR GRANT OPPORTUNITIES OR EARMARKS. WE AS COUNCILORS, WE WANT TO REPRESENT OUR DISTRICTS SERVE OUR CONSTITUENCY. YOU ADD THIS ADDITIONAL. IN THE FUTURE CAN WE CREATE THIS DOCUMENT TO PROVIDE FOR FEDERAL LOBBYIST OR EVEN OUR STATE LOBBYIST RATHER THAN IT BECOMING POLICY? >> CORRECT. YES, HOW THE DOCUMENT IS SET UP IS WIDELY AVAILABLE. AND THE RESOLUTION SHOULD BE ONE PARAGRAPH AND A PAGE LISTING SOME PROJECTS. IT CAN JUST BE THE RESOLUTION THAT SAYS BROAD CATEGORIES. STUFF LIKE YOU SAID PUBLIC SAFETY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. NO ATTACHMENTS. >>COUN. PEÑA: SO, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, MR. PADILLA, ARE THERE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT? I THINK THAT'S THE WAY WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. I KNOW IN THE PAST, I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE POLICY DECISIONS WE MOVED FORWARD. BECAUSE MY ITEMS WERE IN THERE AND OTHER PEOPLE'S ITEMS WERE IN THERE, IT'S LIKE LET'S MOVE THIS FORWARD AND AGREE THAT THESE ARE THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON. I THINK AS COUNCILOR LEWIS STATES, IT REALLY IS INTENT THAT WE ALL AGREE WITH IT. >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO MOVING FORWARD. ONE RECOMMENDATION I HAVE, IF WE WANT TO GET AWAY FROM POLICY IS YOU COULD SAY WE WOULD LIKE TO PLUS UP CERTAIN APPROPRIATION BILL. IF YOU THINK HOMELESSNESS IS IMPORTANT ISSUE, YOU CAN SAY PLUS UP APPROPRIATION FOR FEDERAL THINGS THAT ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS. THAT CAN BE A WAY DO GET BROAD CATEGORIES BUT IT'S SOMETHING EVERYBODY TO SUPPORT. >>COUN. PEÑA: CORRECT. THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. JUST BASED ON SOME OF THE CONVERSATION HERE, I WOULDN'T WANT TO REMOVE THAT. BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT IT AND I WOULD MOVE FOR TWO-WEEK DEFERRAL SO IT GIVES EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT AND WE HAVE NEW COUNCILORS THAT HAVEN'T TOOK A DEEP DIVE IN THIS. I MOVE A DEFERRAL. >>COUN. GROUT: SO WE HAVE -- THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR, NOW WE HAVE A DEFERRAL. WE HAVE TWO COUNCILORS THAT WANT TO SPEAK. >>COUN. LEWIS: I SUPPORT A DEFERRAL. I'LL SECOND THE DEFERRAL AND SUPPORT IT. THAT TAKES PRECEDENCE OVER THE AMENDMENT. AND THEN I WOULD -- I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. I ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS AS BEING TALKING WITH WASHINGTON LOBBYIST AND TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT PROJECTS SPECIFIC TO THE DISTRICT. MAYBE THIS IS MY FAULT AND I HAVEN'T NOTICED THIS YEAR. IT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY RECENT. I WOULD ASSUME THOSE TWO STATEMENTS I READ I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM BEFORE. THOSE ARE NEW TO THIS YEAR. SPECIFIC POLICY STATEMENTS. OR MAYBE THEY'VE DONE IT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THEY WERE IN LAST YEAR. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. WELL, THOSE TWO I POINTED OUT. I DON'T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING IN HERE. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING. BUT THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO I LOOKED AT THAT WERE ACTUALLY -- YOU KNOW, COMMENTING ABOUT HOMELESSNESS AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, I MAY NOT SAY IT LIKE THAT BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE. WHEN IT COMES TO SPECIFIC THINGS LIKE ELIMINATE STUDENT DEBT OR SUPPORT PAID SICK LEAVE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE VERY SPECIFIC POLICY TYPE THINGS THAT CAN'T ALL OF US WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT. IF IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO ELIMINATE THE PRIORITY POLICY TYPE PART OF THIS, THEN I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY APPROPRIATE. >>COUN. GROUT: SO -- THANK YOU, COUNCILOR LEWIS. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, SO I JUST WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. GOOD CATCH. I'M NOT DEBATING ANY OF THAT. WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ON THE IGR COMMITTEE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS WHEN WE DO SOMETHING FORWARD, IT SAYS IT'S A CITY-WIDE PRIORITY, WHETHER IT'S TO THE STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WHETHER IT'S POLICY OR CAPITAL PROJECTS, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS IF WE'RE SAYING IT'S A CITY-WIDE PRIORITY THAT MEANS TEN PEOPLE HAVE TO APPROVE IT. IF ONE PERSON DOESN'T APPROVE IT SHOULD BECOME THAT COUNCILOR'S PRIORITY OR THE MAYORS PRIORITY. ALL NINE OF US SHOULD AGREE WHATEVER LIST WE PUT FORWARD TO THE STATE OR FEDERAL DELEGATION IN ORDER TO SAY IT'S A CITY WIDE PRIORITY. EVEN IF FIVE OR SIX OF US ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT WHATEVER TOPIC AND THREE OF US IS NOT OR ONE OF US IS NOT OR IF THE MAYOR IS NOT THAT DOES NOT MAKE A CITY-WIDE PRIORITY. THAT MAKES IT A GROUP OR INDIVIDUAL PRIORITY AND NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY. I HOPE, AND ALSO I THOUGHT THIS WAS ROBUST ANYWAY. I EXPRESSED THAT IN OUR COMMITTEE MEETING. I THINK WHEN YOU'RE SAYING EVERYTHING IS A PRIORITY THAT MAKES NOTHING A PRIORITY. IF WE ONLY HAD A FEW THINGS ON THIS LIST, WHETHER IT BE FOR POLICY OR CAPITAL OR A FEW THINGS FOR CAPITAL OR A FEW FOR POLICY BOTH FOR STATE AND FEDERAL, THEN WE CAN HAVE SOME PRIORITIES. HOW IS ANYONE SUPPOSED TO ZERO IN ON WHAT WE REALLY NEED AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY HOPING TO ACHIEVE IF WE'RE SAYING WE HAVE 30 THINGS WE WANT THE DELEGATION TO LOOK AT AND GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF EACH ONE. I DON'T THINK THAT IS GOING TO LEND ITSELF TO BEING THE MOST PRODUCTIVE. I'M FINE CUTTING THINGS, WHATEVER IT IS, IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T APPROVE IT. I'M FINE SUPPORTING THAT EVEN IF I MIGHT PERSONALLY AGREE WITH IT OR NOT BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE A CITY-WIDE PRIORITY IN MY OPINION. THE LAST THING, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, IS WE DID ANNOUNCE WE HAVE A NEW IGR MEETING ON JANUARY 17. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST ALL OF THE OTHER COUNCILORS HERE TO PLEASE LOOK AT THIS. WE CAN HASH IT OUT. SEND THE STAFF WHAT YOU'RE HOPING TO ACHIEVE. WE CAN TRY TO GET THAT UPDATED IN IGR. I KNOW IT WILL COME BACK HERE TOO. IF WE CAN HAVE THIS -- WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO GET IT DONE WITH A GOOD TIMELINE. I THINK THESE ARE VALID REASONS TO DEFER IT. PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT IT. PLEASE DIGEST AND ASK QUESTIONS AND SO WE CAN GET IT PASSED. THIS WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE FEDERAL DELEGATION TO GET IT DONE BY AROUND THIS TIME IN ORDER FOR THEM TO TRY TO BE AS MOST PRODUCTIVE. LAST, I THINK I SAID LASTLY, SORRY, LASTLY, MADAM CHAIR, CAN WE TRY TO LOOK AT AND PUT ON THE AGENDA TO DECIDE AND WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE TO SEE WHAT WE SHOULD PUT IN THAT LEGISLATION FOR WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD INCLUDE CAPITAL OR POLICY OR BOTH OR IF WE SHOULD LIMIT IT. I KNOW WE HAVE TRIED TO LIMIT IT AND MASSAGE IT OVER TIME. YOU KNOW, WITH EVERYBODY BEING NEW, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING REALLY GOOD TO CRACK OPEN AND DUST OFF SO WE CAN SEE HOW THIS COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO WORK ON WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE SO WE CAN KEEP TRYING TO IMPROVE IT RATHER THAN MAYBE SPINNING WHEELS OR GETTING CAUGHT AT THE LAST SECOND BECAUSE WE KEEP TWEAKING IT. THERE'S STILL MORE TO BE TWEAKED. I THINK WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. I ACTUALLY AGREE THIS IS WAY TOO LONG. AND IT'S CHALLENGING TO REDUCE IT DOWN. I WILL SAY THAT IF WE TAKE OUT ALL OF THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND HAVE THE CAPITAL PRIORITIES WHICH IS SOMETHING THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSED SEVERAL TIMES, WE DO RUN THE RISK, COUNCILORS OF HAVING THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE PRIORITY LISTS OF LEGISLATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SAY IN. THAT'S LED TO THIS. THERE'S CERTAINLY THINGS I DON'T AGREE WITH. SPECIFICALLY ON THE STATE PRIORITIES THAT WE PASSED LAST MONTH, I THINK. THERE ARE MANY THINGS I DON'T AGREE WITH. WE TAKE IT AS A WHOLE AND MAKING SURE EVERYONE HAD A SAY. FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THE FINAL PAGE IS AN IMPORTANT PAGE IN THIS DOCUMENT. IT HAS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR FUNDING FOR. I THINK THAT FINAL PAGE, WE WHITEAL DOWN TO SOMETHING THAT FOCUSES ON PROJECTS CITY WIDE THAT ARE PRIORITIES FOR EACH OF THE COUNCILORS. AT LEAST I HOPE SO BECAUSE WE WENT BACK AND FORTH QUITE A FEW TIMES. I HOPE THAT DOES MEET WITH EVERYONE'S APPROVAL. I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. I THINK WE HAVE PRINTED OUT A FEW TIMES. I ECHO COUNCILOR BASSAN. PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT IT. WE'RE TRYING VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S INPUT IS INCLUDED. WE CAN ONLY DO THAT IF WE HEAR FROM YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >>. >>COUN. BASSAN: JUST TO REPLY TO COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. TO MINIMIZE ANY CONFUSION WHEN IT COMES TO THE CAPITAL PRIORITIES WE PUT ON THIS FOR THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES, KEEP IN MIND -- I PROMISE YOU I WANTED A CAPITAL PROJECT ON THAT. BUT I WILL ALSO TELL YOU THAT IT DOESN'T FIT IN ANY OF THE GRANT PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. WHEN AND IF YOU DON'T SEE A CAPITAL PROJECT ON THAT SPECIFIC FEDERAL LIST, KNOW IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE OUR LOBBYISTS HAVE TRIED TO FIND YOUR PRIORITY THAT YOU EXPRESSED FOR A STATE LEVEL BUT THEY CAN'T FIND A BUCKET IT WOULD FIT IN APPROPRIATELY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL WHICH IS WHY THE LIST LOOKS THE WAY IT DOES. WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR LOBBYIST SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT IF IT WILL WORK AND MAKE SURE WE ASK FOR THAT ON BEHALF OF EVERYBODY BASED OFF OF WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE FOR THEIR PROJECTS IN THE CITY. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO DEFER IT. WE HAVE A TWO-WEEK DEFERRAL. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. WE HAVE IT MOVED AND SECONDED TO DEFER. R-2, UNTIL THE 22nd OF JANUARY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT IS UNANIMOUS. THAT HAS BEEN DEFERRED. EVERYBODY GET WITH -- MAKE SURE YOU REACH OUT TO THE IGA COMMITTEE AND LOOK THIS OVER AND TALK TO STAFF AND UNDERSTAND IT. AND LET'S BE PREPARED TO VOTE ON THE 22nd. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM C. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THERE IT IS. OKAY. YES, MEMORIAL 24-1 TODAY. I'M INTRODUCING THIS MEMORIAL. BASICALLY, IT'S SAYING WHAT I HEARD THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CAMPAIGN PROCESS THIS LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. PEOPLE WHO ARE TIRED OF THE CONSISTENT REVOLVING DOOR. THE CATCH AND RELEASE. EVERYBODY HEARD WITH THE REVOLVING DOOR. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TRYING TO URGE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL DID SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. CRIME IS OUT OF CONTROL IN OUR COMMUNITY. EVERYBODY FEELS AND SEES IT. OUR FAMILIES SHOULDN'T BE AFRAID TO WALK DOWN THE STREET WHETHER IT'S 3 A.M. OR 3 IN THE AFTERNOON. COUNCILOR JONES JOINS ME IN ASKING THE STATE LEGISLATION IF THEY HAVE -- RE-EXAMINE THE PRE TRIAL DETENTION. DON'T LET IT DIE IN COMMITTEE OR NOT BE HEARD BY THE COMPLETE SENATE OR THE COMPLETE HOUSE AND LET EVERYBODY DISCUSS IT AND RE-EXAMINE WHAT WE'RE FACING THESE DAYS. AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE TIR SPEAKING WITH OFFICERS AND REARRESTING THE SAME PEOPLE FOR NEW CHARGES WHEN THE EXISTING CHARGES HAVEN'T EVEN GONE IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE OR GONE TO COURT. SO MANY TIMES THEY TALK ABOUT HOW THEY'RE ARRESTING THE SAME PERSON OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND HAVING FOUR CASES PENDING. LIKE I SAID, I'M URGING YOUR SUPPORT WITH THIS. AND REALLY STRESS A MESSAGE TO SANTA FE TO REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE BILLS AND THIS PROGRAM AND SAY HOW CAN WE FIX IT AND HOW CAN WE MAKE IT BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW. HOW CAN WE CONTINUE TO ADHERE TO THE MESSAGES THAT WE SAID OVER THE SEVERAL YEARS. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THIS BODY CAN DO DIRECTLY. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. TODAY, LIKE I SAID, I'M ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. GROUT: WE NEED A SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, CAN WE HAVE THE MEMORIAL READ INTO THE RECORD FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S FOR PLEASE? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: M-1, URGING THE NEW MEXICO -- DO YOU WANT THE WHOLE THING READ? OKAY. LET ME PULL IT UP. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. IT'S JUST THE TITLE ON THIS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. I'LL DO IT. I'M URGING THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO TO CONSIDER CHANGING TO THE NEW MEXICO CRIMINAL JUSTICE RE-TRIAL DETENTION SYSTEM. THAT'S HAS CREATED AN UNACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF LAWNESSNESS IN AND THROUGHOUT THE ALBUQUERQUE AREA AND STATE. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO URGE STATE LEGISLATIVE LEADERS TO MOVE SUCH PROPOSALS THROUGH THE COMMITTEE SYSTEM AND ALLOW THEM TO UP OR DOWN VOTES ON BOTH THE SENATE AND HOUSE FLOOR WHEN PRESENTED. >>COUN. GROUT: WE HAVE A SECOND? IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU, SIR. WE A SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE ONE COMMENT. WILL YOU READ OUR SPEAKER? >> OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS ANGEL FOLLOWED BY NICOLE ON ZOOM. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF. I'M ANGEL AND I URGE YOU TO STAND BEHIND COUNCILOR CHAMPINE AND HIS COMMITMENT TO FIX THE REVOLVING DOOR AND HOW THE REVOLVING DOOR IMPACTED MY FAMILY. I HAVE HAD THE UNFORTUNATE FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE TO THE TRUTH BEHIND THAT PHRASE AS WELL AS THE FLAWS WITHIN OUR SYSTEM. AS A MATTER OF FACT MY SON'S DEATH ON APRIL 23 OF 2021 IS WHAT UN-COVERED THIS MOST BASIC RULES LAWS AND GUIDELINES WERE NOT BEING MET. MANY OF THE LAWS AND GUIDELINES BLINDSIDED US TO THINK WE WERE SAFE AND THE PROTECTION FROM THOSE WHO ARE A DANGER TO OUR COMMUNITIES LIKE THOSE ESPECIALLY ON PRE-TRIAL RELEASE AND ANKLE MONITORS. I CAME TO FIND OUT MY SON'S KILLER WAS A PRODUCT OF THAT FAILED SYSTEM. -- AND THE CRAZY PART IS NONE OF US ARE IMMUNE TO IT. ANYONE OF US CAN ENCOUNTER AN UNFORTUNATE EVENT BECAUSE OF OUR FLAWED SYSTEM. MY SON'S KILLER WAS NOT ONLY A PRODUCT OF THE FLAWED SYSTEM BUT WAS WEARING AN ANKLE MONITOR AND WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON STRICT HOUSE ARREST. THIS YOUNG MAN HAD PRIORS THAT INCLUDED AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS, POSSESSION OF FENTANYL AND SHOOTING FROM A VEHICLE. THE D.A. AT THIS TIME ASKED THE COURT TO KEEP IN INCARCERATED BUT THE JUDGE LET HIM OUT BECAUSE THEY FELT HE WASN'T A DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY. HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN KEPT IN JAIL PRIOR TO TRIAL. AT TRIAL THE PROSECUTOR SAID MY SON'S KILLER BECAME EMBOLDENED. THE MORE HE GOT AWAY WITH THE MORE HE FELT BOLD AND COULD GET AWAY WITH ANYTHING. THE MORE THEY GET AWAY WITH IT WITH LITTLE TO NO ACCOUNTABILITY THE BOLDER THEY GET AND WHY NOT IF NO ONE WILL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABILITY. PLEASE MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFE AGAIN BY HOLDING THOSE THAT BREAK THE LAW ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS. THANK YOU COUNCILOR CHAMPINE FOR TAKING ON THIS TASK. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. MY NAME IS ANGEL AND I'M THE VOICE FOR DEVON. >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME CONFUSION ON EC24-1 AND M-24-1. >>COUN. GROUT: WE'RE ON M-24-1. RUDOLPH SIGNED UP FOR EC24-1. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. IT WAS MY MISTAKE. I PRESSED THE WRONG BUTTON. >> THAT'S OKAY. GO AHEAD. AND WE'RE GOING TO CALL NICOLE ON ZOOM. >> COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I SPOKE WITH YOU EARLIER. I'VE BEEN IN PRE-TRIAL FOR 35 OF MY 68 YEARS. IF SOMEBODY CAN TELL YOU EVERY PROBLEM WITH WE HAVE WITH PRE-TRIAL IT'S ME. I CAN. RIGHT NOW, I'M FIGHTING THE SAME CASE BECAUSE THE SUPREME COURT DECIDES THAT HAVING THE 300 BETWEEN THE PUBLIC DEFENDER TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY THE ONLY DEFENSE YOU CAN HAVE IS MENTAL DEFENSE. WHEN YOU GO TO COURT AND YOU DON'T AGREE TO PLEA TO SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T DO, YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY INSANE. UNTIL YOU'RE PROVEN NOT INSANE. YOUR JUDGMENT IS GOING TO BE NOT BY A JUDGE BUT BY A MENTAL WORKER. AND THAT'S THE BIG PROBLEM WE HAVE HAVE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. NOBODY CAN GET A TRIAL UNTIL WE GET THE SAME NUMBER OF PUBLIC DEFENDERS TO DISTRICT ATTORNEYS. THEN I CAN REVERSE THE SUPREME COURT. THAT'S GOING TO KEEP MY CASE OPEN. I CAN TAKE IT ALL THE WAY UP AND REVERSE IT AND HAVE THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS DO THEIR JOB. THIS IS NOT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S FAULT. THIS IS NOT THE POLICE FAULT. THIS IS THE PUBLIC DEFENDER JUST SITTING DOWN LAUGHING AT US AND DESTROYING EVERYBODY'S LIFE. IF YOU WANT TO CONVICT SOMEBODY FOR FOUR YEARS YOU NEED TO TAKE THEM TO TRY. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU GET A FAIR TRIAL. OTHERWISE, YOU'RE GOING TO GET SIX MONTHS IN A MENTAL FACILITY AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE BACK IN THE STREETS SHOOTING AGAIN. I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE LEGISLATURE ON THIS FOR A WHILE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >> NICOLE ON ZOOM AND WE'LL ASK ANDREA AND JANICE IF THEY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I HOPE YOU CAN HEAR ME. MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, AND COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW ME I AM THE MOTHER OF JANE CHAVEZ. WHO WAS MURDERED IN 2015 BY A DRIVE BY SHOOTING BY REPEAT OFFENDERS. THIS IS MY NINTH SESSION TRYING TO CRATE COMMON SENSE LEGISLATION TO KEEP NEW MEXICO'S MOST DANGEROUS CRIMINALS OFF THE STREETS. I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE COUNCILOR'S MEMORIAL AND CALL UPON OUR STATE LEGISLATORS TO CREATE AND TRULY PASS THE BILLS THAT WOULD ADDRESS NEW MEXICO'S HIGH CRIME RATE. ADDRESSING PRE-TRIAL RELEASE STANDARDS TO ALLOW JUDGES TO KEEP DANGEROUS CRIMINALS BEHIND BARS WHILE THEY AWAIT TRIAL SO WE STOP BEING THE SENSELESS ACT OF VIOLENCES IN THE COMMUNITY IS TRULY WHAT WE NEED. TIME AND TIME AGAIN VIOLENT REPEAT OFFENDERS KILLING INNOCENT VICTIMS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN JAIL WHERE THEY BELONG. THEIR CRIMES BECOME MORE AND MORE VIOLENT AND THEY'RE NOT HELD ACCOUNTABLE BEHIND BARS. I ASK FOR LEGISLATION THAT OFFERS PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS TO REDUCE NEW MEXICO'S ESCALATING CRIME RATE. I KNOW THIS FIRST-HAND. AND A LOT OF YOU KNOW PEOPLE AS WELL. WE MUST ACT NOW TO CHANGE CONDITIONS IN NEW MEXICO. TO MAKE THIS COMMUNITY SAFE AGAIN. THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE AND FOR THIS MEMORIAL THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE COUNCILORS THAT ARE GOING TO PASS THIS. I HOPE THIS YEAR WE FINALLY SEE CHANGE ON THIS ISSUE ESPECIALLY. >> UP NEXT IS JANICE FOLLOWED BY ANDREA. >> I APOLOGIZE, I MAY HAVE ALSO ACCIDENTLY CLICKED THE WRONG BOX. I THOUGHT I WAS SIGNED UP FOR EC. >> I WAS ALSO SIGNED UP FOR EC. >> I REALLY APPRECIATE HEARING THE RESIDENTS DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF LEGAL EXPERTS THAT CAN BE REALLY SPECIFIC ABOUT THE TYPE OF RE-TRIAL RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE EFFECTIVE AND HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS. I KNOW OF ONE OF THE PREVIOUS EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE PAUL HEEDAL THAT DONE WORK ON PRE-TRIAL SERVICES IN CHICAGO. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO HIM AND I THINK THE MORE SPECIFIC WE CAN GET WITH STATE LEGISLATION THE BETTER. AND SO, THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU. >> MY APOLOGIES ON THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS HEARD. >>COUN. GROUT: EVERYBODY HAS BEEN HEARD. VERY GOOD. WE HAVE COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. I ACTUALLY APPRECIATE THIS MEMORIAL. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. I THINK IT MIGHT BE FOR YOU, BUT IT MIGHT BE FOR STAFF. MY ONLY CONCERN IS ON PAGE THREE, SECTION TWO, WHERE WE SAY WE WANT THE NEW MEXICO LEGISLATURE TO CONDUCT UP OR DOWN VOTES IN BOTH CHAMBERS ON THE LEGISLATION. THAT'S NOT HOW THE STATE LEGISLATURE WORKS. WE DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH COMMITTEE PROCESSES. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ARE WE ASKING THEM TO DO -- WE'RE ASKING THEM TO GO STRAIGHT TO VOTES ON THE FLOOR WHICH IS NOT A THING. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I UNDERSTAND IT. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION. WHAT I'M ASKING IS IN THE PAST THE BILL THAT AFFECT THIS HAVE DIED AT THE COMMITTEE HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN HEARD AND NOT GIVEN A CHANCE TO GO TO THE HOUSE OR SENATE FLOOR. I'M NOT ASKING WE'RE BYPASSING. I'M ASKING FOR ITS JUST DUE AND ATTENTION TO MOVE TO THE FLOOR AND HAVE A LARGER DISCUSSION SO IT CAN GO THROUGH. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: FLANGZ THE . >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I THINK THERE'S RULES THAT MAKE THEM BE ASSIGNED TO COMMITTEE AND BE ASSIGNED TO HEAR THEM. I'M UNCOMFORTABLE OF TELLING THEM TO CHANGE RULES. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALSO THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU CHOSE TO USE IN HERE. IT SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT VIOLENT OFFENDERS. THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT. I DO APPRECIATE THAT. I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT LAST SECTION. JUST HOW THE STATE LEGISLATURE ACTUALLY WORKS. >> IF I CAN JUST ADDRESS THAT COMMENT. BASED OFF OF WHAT THE SPONSOR JUST SAID I THINK HE INDICATED HE DOESN'T INTEND TO BYPASS THAT COMMITTEE PROCESS. THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THE BILL. HE WANTS TO GET TO A FINAL VOTE THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS THAT BILLS FOLLOW THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE RULES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'M SORRY, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. I AGREE. I HEARD THAT. THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY WHAT THE BILL SAYS. THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN. I APPRECIATE THAT'S THE INTENT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. JUST LIKE TO THANK THE SPONSOR, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE FOR COMING OUT OF THE GATES AND BRINGING AN EXCELLENT MEMORIAL. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. RIGHT NOW OUR EXISTING PRE-TRIAL SERVICES DON'T WORK AND THEY DON'T SERVE TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE OR THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN HURT BY VIOLENT CRIME. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU BROUGHT UP IN THIS MEMORIAL IS THESE THINGS ARE GETTING STUCK IN THE COMMITTEES AND THEY'RE GETTING STUCK AND NOT GETTING THE VOTES OR GETTING MOVED FORWARD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO EVERY SINGLE YEAR IS I SPONSOR THE ANGEL TREE LIGHTING THAT HAPPENS ON SIEVING -- CIVIC PLAZA. WE'RE CELEBRATING THE LIVES OF VERY YOUNG PEOPLE, CHILDREN, WHO LOST TO VIOLENT CRIME. EVERY SINGLE YEAR AROUND CHRISTMAS TIME I HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND WE ALL GET TOGETHER AND WE WISH THIS WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN AGAIN. WE WISH WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE OUT THERE CELEBRATING LIVES LOST TO VIOLENT CRIME. AND THE BIGGEST THING IS WE CAN FIX THIS. WE MOVE IT FORWARD. AND WE CAN FIX WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND MAKE IT HARDER FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ON PROBATION OR PAROLE, INDIVIDUALS ON ANKLE MONITORS, PEOPLE THAT SHOULD BE IN JAIL TO STAY IN JAIL. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GO DOWN THERE AND I'LL CHAMPION THIS WITH YOU AND WHEN THIS MEMORIAL COMES IN FRONT OF OUR LAWMAKERS OR LEGISLATORS, AND OUR SENATORS, I WOULD LOVE TO BE THERE. WE SHOULD GO DOWN THERE AND I'LL STAND WITH YOU AND LET'S LET THEM KNOW HOW WE FEEL AS A CITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION ABOUT SECTION TWO LINE ITEM 20 ABOUT THIS INCLUDES REPEAT OFFENDERS, THOSE ILLEGALLY USING FIREARM AND INDIVIDUALS CHARGED WITH VIOLENT CRIMES. FOR THE REPEAT OFFENDERS, VIOLENT CRIME REPEAT OFFENDERS? OR ANY REPEAT OFFENDERS LIKE PETTY MISDEMEANORS. THIS AFFECTS BLACK AND BROWN OFFENDERS MORE. I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT. IS THIS JUST FOR VIOLENT CRIMES OR ARE WE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, REPEAT OFFENDERS IN THE SENSE IS VIOLENT CRIMES WITH A GUN OR VIOLENT CRIMES AGAINST PEOPLE WITH WEAPONS. REPEAT OFFENDERS ARE ALSO A BURDEN TO OUR CITY AND THOSE REPEAT OFFENDERS NOT ON PETTY MISDEMEANORS. NOW THAT CHA CHANGED MISDEMEANORS SHOPLIFTING. IF YOU HAVE THE SAME OFFENDER HITTING UP SEVEN OR EIGHT OR NINE TIMES WHILE THEY'RE ON PROBATION WAITING TO ANSWER THE FIRST CHARGE, THEY'RE DEVELOPING SIX OR SEVEN MORE VICTIMS. THOSE TYPE OF REPEAT OFFENDERS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATE LAW YOU'RE TALKING SOMEONE WHO GETS CAUGHT SPEEDING, BUT THAT'S A TRAFFIC LAW. THIS IS INTENDED FOR THE BILLS PRESENTED TO ADDRESS VIOLENT AND REPEAT OFFENDERS AND THE LAWS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. IT'S IN THE TITLE. JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE AND TO HOPEFULLY CLEAR UP SOME OF IT. IT SAYS STUFF BEFOREHAND. BUT AT ONE POINT IS SAYS THE COUNCIL URGES LEADERS THROUGH THE COMMITTEE SYSTEM AND ALLOW UP OR DOWN VOTES ON THE HOUSE OR SENATE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. YEAH, THANK YOU COUNCILOR, I APPRECIATE THE INTENT. I ACTUALLY OVERALL SUPPORT IT BUT I HAVE SOME OF THE SAME NOTES THAT COUNCILOR ROGERS JUST BROUGHT UP. ONE OF THEM IS I KNOW IT WOULD DELAY THIS IF WE CHANGE THE TITLE BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE SOME SOME STUFF IN THERE. I PREFER IT TAKE OUT IT CREATED AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF LAWLESSNESS. I ASK THAT WE MAKE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS. ONE OF THEM ON PAGE ONE LINE 13 THAT WE SAY DEMAND THAT VIOLENT CRIMINALS FACE CERTAIN CONSEQUENCES. I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT AMENDMENT, LINE 18, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE SAME VIOLENT CRIMINALS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. JUST TO CHANGE -- CHANGE THE WORD VIOLENT ONLINE 18. AND I KNOW THEY'RE IN SOME OF THE WHEREAS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE TRY TO RELAY A CONCISE MESSAGE. I LOST MY SPACE. HIGH-RISK CATEGORIES THAT INCLUDE REPEAT VIOLENT OFFENDERS OR PEOPLE FOUND ILLEGALLY USING FIREARMS AND CHARGED WITH VIOLENT CRIME. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN DUE PROCESS AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE DISPROPORTIONALLY REPRESENTED IN JAILS. AND OFTENTIMES THEY'RE NOT CRIMINAL OFFENSES. SHOPLIFTING IS A SERIOUS OFFENSE, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT PERSON IS GOING TO GO SHOOT SOMEONE, BUT I DO AGREE THAT WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT THE SYSTEM AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES OF REVOLVERING DOOR. I VIOLENT CRIMINALS THEY SHOULD BE DETAINED. >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, CAN YOU REPEAT THE THREE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE WORD VIOLENT? >>COUN. PEÑA: THIS INCLUDES REPEAT OFFENDERS ILLEGALLY USING FIREARMS. REPEAT VIOLENT OFFENDERS. ON LINE 20. >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, ON WHICH PAGE? >>COUN. PEÑA: PAGE THREE. AND THE SECOND ONE IS ON LINE 18 PAGE THREE. AND THEN ON PAGE ONE LINE 13. ADD VIOLENT. LINE 18. YES. NO NO NO. IT'S ON 12. COMMITTED CERTAIN SERIOUS CRIMES. VIOLENT CRIMES. LINE 12. I DON'T KNOW IF MINE IS DIFFERENT. PAGE TWO. I'M GOING BY LINES. WE CAN STRIKE SERIOUSLY. SO IT ADDS ANOTHER LEVEL. VIOLENT CRIMES. ANY VIOLENT CRIME IS PRETTY SERIOUS. >>COUN. BACA: MADAM VICE-PRESIDEN -- [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. CAN YOU TELL THE SPECIFIC PLACES NOW? >> APOLOGIZE. IF YOU GIVE US A MOMENT TO TYPE UP THE CHANGES. WE'RE WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW. >>COUN. BASSAN: MAY I ASK A QUESTION? ESSENTIALLY, YOU WANT TO CHANGE ALL WORDS THAT SAYS WHEN IT SAYS CRIMINALS ADD VIOLENT IN FRONT OF IT. AND WHEN IT SAYS SERIOUS IT SHOULD SAY VIOLENT, RIGHT? >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I'M GOOD WITH THAT CHANGE. >>COUN. PEÑA: I APOLOGIZE. I WAS REALLY TRYING TO GO THROUGH IT REALLY QUICKLY. I THINK I FOUND THREE, MAYBE FOUR. I HAD WRITTEN THE LINE ITEMS. I THINK I THREW ONE OF THE PAGES AWAY I WHERE I WAS WRITING. >>COUN. GROUT: WILL YOU GO OVER THAT? >> YES. HERE'S WHAT I HAVE. ON PAGE ONE, LINE 13. INSERT VIOLENT BEFORE THE WORD CRIMINALS. ON PAGE TWO, LINE 12, WRITE SERIOUS AND INSERT THE WORD VIOLENT BEFORE THE WORD CRIMINALS. ON PAGE TWO LINE 18 INSERT VIOLENT BEFORE THE WORD CRIMINAL. AND ON PAGE THREE LINE 20 INSERT SILENT BEFORE REPEAT OFFENDERS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BASSAN: WOULD YOU BE OPEN THAT PERHAPS IF YOU FIND OTHER CRIMINAL OR CRIMES IN THERE IT'S CONSISTENT? I'M SAYING MAYBEO -- MAYBE WE MISSED ONE. >>COUN. PEÑA: CAN WE JUST CHANGE THE AMENDMENT -- NO YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT TO REFLECT ANY OTHER PLACES? >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THE ONE NUANCE TO THIS IS IS THERE ARE QUOTES CONTAINED THAT INCLUDE SOME OF THE WORDS. >>COUN. GROUT: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE BACK ON THE AMENDED MEMORIAL. WE HAVE SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT TOO PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. GOOD JOB. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE LAST ITEM OF BUSINESS. EC1, VETO OF R-123 CREATE AGJOINT CITY COUNTY WORKING GROUP TO IMPROVE THE BERNALILLO COUNTY JOINT AIR QUALITY CONTROL BOARD. IF A COUNCILOR WISHES TO ATTEMPT ANOVERRIDE THEY MAKE A MOTION TO OVERRIDE. IF THE SECOND IS NOT RECEIVED THE VETO STANDS. IF A MOTION IS MADE AND SECOND IS RECEIVED BUT SIX VOTES ARE NOT OBTAINED THE MAYOR'S VETO STANDS. IS THERE A MOTION TO OVERRIDE? >>COUN. LEWIS: NOT A MOGZ MOTION. JUST . >>COUN. LEWIS: JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS. I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE MEEGZ . >>COUN. LEWIS: THINKING OF THE VETO, MESSAGE, I COMMEND THE MAYOR OR WHOEVER WROTE THIS FOR THE MASTERY OF WORD SALAD. I DON'T KNOW IF IT SAYS, I HONESTLY CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT SAYS OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT I THINK THE MAYOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE BILL WERE INTENDED FOR GOOD GOVERNMENT, THEY DON'T REALLY NEED -- MEET A TIMELINE. ULTIMATELY SAYING WE SHOULDN'T START A PROCESS OUTSIDE OF APPROVAL OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION. AGAIN, IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE IT'S COMING FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSION. AND THIS COUNCIL SHOULD DEFER TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS A BILL THAT REALLY ATTEMPTED TO MIRROR WHAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION WAS ALSO WRITING. SO, THAT'S INTERESTING. I DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH MOVING FOR AN OVERRIDE. I THINK A MORE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE TO THIS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD HAVE BEEN ACKNOWLEDGING THE FACT THERE'S SEVERAL BILLS, ONE IMPORTANT BILL THAT'S NOW LAW IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS DEFENDING VIGOROUSLY AND SHOULD BE. AND YET THE MAYOR QUESTIONS ON WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO BE -- WHETHER THOSE BILLS ARE GOING TO STAND. THEY'RE THE LAW OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THEY SHOULD STAND. OF COURSE OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S JOB IS TO DEFEND THOSE. BUT AGAIN, TO DEFER TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION IS OUTRAGEOUS. THAT'S NOT OUR JOB TO DEFER TO THEM. IT IS OUR JOB TO DO RESOLUTIONS WITH THE INTENT TO WORK WITH THEM. THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES. THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION TO OVERRIDE. >> WE DO HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. GROUT: WE DO HAVE THAT. PLEASE CALL THOSE FOLKS. >> THANK YOU. FIRST WE HAVE ANDRAE FOLLOWED BY JANICE. >> THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR. IN SECTION FIVE WHICH STATES THE DEADLINE FOR THE AIR QUALITY CONTROL WORKING GROUP TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS IS TOO TIGHT FOR A TURNAROUND FOR EFFECTIVE ENGAGEMENT OF CITY COUNCIL AND COUNTY COMMISSION. I DON'T THINK IT WAS WRITTEN BY THE COUNTY COMMISSION. I DO NEVERTHELESS THINK IT'S TOO SHORT OF TIMELINE TO PASS COMPREHENSIVE RECOMMENDATIONS. PROVIDING EFFECTIVE RECOMMENDATION RUN COUNT R TO THE GOAL OF THOSE ON COUNSEL THAT HAVE INTEREST OTHER THAN PUBLIC HEALTH THERE'S AN OBINSTRUCTION OF DEMOCRACY HERE AND A LACK OF GOOD GOVERNANCE CONNECTED TO THIS APPROACH. THERE HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTS TO OBSTRUCT THE PROCESSES WHICH OBSTRUCTED THE DEMOCRACY IN LOTS OF WAYS. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE CITY BUILD A CULTURE OF COLLABORATION WITH THE COUNTY, RESIDENTS OF ALBUQUERQUE, PARTICULARLY THOSE IMPACTED BY NEGATIVE HEALTH ISSUES RELATED TO POOR AIR QUALITY WERE NOT ABLE DUE TO HEALTH OR BARRIERS PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC PROCESSES. MOST RESIDENTS IN FACT DO NOT SEE WHO IS MAKING THE RULES. SIMPLY EXPERIENCE THE OUTCOMES. COLLABORATION INCREASES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BEST OUTCOMES TO OCCUR. AND FOR THOUSANDS OR HUNDREDS MAYBE OF US THAT ARE PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE, IT FURTHER INSTILLS OUR FAITH IN GOVERNMENT AND YOU'RE ABLE TO WORK ACROSS THE LINE WITH OTHER ENTITIES IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE BEST TAKEN CARE OF AS CITIZENS. BEYOND THIS PARTICULAR BILL WHICH WOULD IMPACT EFFECTIVE PROCEEDING OF GOVERNMENT IT SETS THE STANL FOR THE DETERIORATION OF GOVERNMENT PRACTICES AND STRUCTURES. OUR GOVERNMENT AND THOUGH YOU MAY THINK THAT IN MAKING SUCH MOVES THE EFFORTF INDUSTRY -- I'M SORRY I HAVE ONE MORE LINE. THAT PLACE NEEDSOVER THE RESIDENTS YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THERE'S THE SAME LEVEL OF BACKLASH AND SAME LEVEL OF ADVOCACY AND SAME LEVEL OF FIGHT FOR RESIDENTS HEALTH IN THE SAME WAY YOU PROTECT YOUR HEALTH. I DO ENCOURAGE YOU -- I'M THANKFUL YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO OVERRIDE THIS VETO. BUT, THIS IS A PART OF A LARGER ISSUE AS WE ALL KNOW. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >> JANICE. >> MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING AGAIN. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME THE INCOMING MEMBERS AND WISH A HAPPY 2024 TO ALL. IN REGARD TO AIR QUALITY IN BERNALILLO COUNTY AND AGREE IN LANGUAGE IN EC-24 DESCRIBING THE LINK BETWEEN PUBLIC HEALTH AND AIR QUALITY AS IMPERATIVE. I WORKED ON ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE FOR COMMUNITIES THAT BEAR DISPROPORTIONATE -- THE AIR QUALITY CONTROL BOARD WAS FORMED AS A JOINTED LOCAL AUTHORITY ON BEHALF OF ALBUQUERQUE AND BERNALILLO COUNTY. AND STAND BEHIND THE CONCERN WE NEED COLLABORATION TO DEFEND NEW MEXICANS AGAINST THE WORSENING AIR QUALITY IN THE COUNTY. WE CANNOT ALLOW COUNTIES OF COLOR TO FACE DISPROPORTIONATE RATES OF DISEASE AND DEATH FROM POLLUTION. ACCORDING TO THE BERNALILLO COUNTY COMMUNITY HEALTH PROFILE BY THE HEALTH EQUITY COUNCIL THE LIFE EXPECTANCY FOR THEM VARIES FROM OVER 82 YEARS FOR RESIDENTS OF THE NORTHEAST HEIGHTS TO LESS THAN 76 YEARS FOR SOME OF THE BURDENED SOUTH VALLEY RESIDENTS. OBVIOUSLY, THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE VASTLY DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS AND SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS. I WAS INSPIRED BY THE HUNDREDS OF CITIZENS THAT TESTIFIED OVER CITY COUNCIL SESSIONS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF PRIORITIZING THE HEALTH OF OUR RESIDENTS OVER THE PROFIT OF PRIVATE COMPANY AND THOSE OF THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. RESPECT THE JOINT NATURE OF THE ABC AIR QUALITY BOARD AND GIVE ENOUGH TIME FOR RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO ANY BOARD CHANGES TO THE MUTUALLY FORMED AND CONSIDERED AS WELL AS THE AMPLE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WILL SURELY FOLLOW. THANK YOU I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL OVER THE NEXT TERM. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NOPE. OKAY. THERE BEING NO OTHER FURTHER BUSINESS THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS ADJOURNED.