[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] unmuted [Music] [Music] [Music] w [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] I got the gab right here heavy handed with the G how's that there you go order good afternoon everybody uh chairman Manalo Santa Claus came and picked him up and took him to the North Pole to help with the elves he left me my hat um so I'm going to uh conduct the rest of the meeting and and we left off I guess we need a roll call roll call please herac here Clint Den ho ho yes here Henderson present Vieira Miranda and manako we have a physical Quorum thank you very much we have a quorum so welcome back everybody we are going to start off with item 83 and we're going to do seven together we'll do them both together so um as under staff reports uh Chief trip okay uh good afternoon Council and happy thankful Thursday so this is fire chief Barbara trip and for item number 23 um have something to do with the computer Aid dispatch system which is the new system that we've been praying for and finally it's here on you all desk and hoping you all approve it so um when I first came into this position of course there was a system already in place and once I realized that that system wasn't going to help the end user I kind of put a stop to it we went out Tred to find the best product that we could for tempor fire rescue and for the citizen to be able to get us the data that we need and so we finally come to a solution which we have um voted on a vendor to be able to put that product in and as you can tell it was Motorola um that's going to oversee the product I'm sorry that's going to implement the product we're going to use their equipment and we did hire a group to oversee the product and that group that we hired are specialized in overseeing these type of major prod products and which is going to help protect the city of Tampa and the community so if you have any questions I can go and plus I have my whole staff here to answer any questions you all may have thank you uh councilman ver uh yes sir yeah and thank you uh C or chairman clendenon I um I I was going to ask questions more so on 24 and Fleet Maintenance but but since we're on the cad and thank you for that ma'am we appreciate you um when would should this be all up and operational you think well once you all approve it I'm hoping to have a kickoff um in January and of course we know certain things take place but we're proposing to be anywhere from 18 to 24 months at the max but we're hoping it to be sooner okay so you think within so in other words it will be fully operational in effect within a year and a half to two years you're saying okay thank you and of course it might be sooner than that it all depends because some of the equipment you know we probably can bypass or some of the equipment that we have now but as they implement this new CAD it's going to be certain parts of that uh system that the end users which is the people on the field will be able to use it so that includes like the AVL the routing a lot of that um uh some of that system is going to continue throughout the process of implement thank you ma'am and I and I have some uh follow up on the uh station and Fleet but nothing else thank you ma'am okay Council check uh I wanted to say um congratulations to you and every firefighter because now this is a really big deal yes and uh I know that um that we've been waiting a long time for this so what I just wanted to make sure is that uh I think um councilwoman ver already asked once certain things are in place it's not going to we don't have to wait a year and a half to two years to flip the switch we're going to be flipping the switch as it goes as it goes so um I think that's really important and making sure that the um firefighters and the um uh and those at dispatch can hear that and know that is very important and um really happy that our wonderful it team is going to take part and help in it as well because I know one of the great things is how um both fire rescue and police's uh maps and information will be able to be shared then which is something we can't do right now and so I know that's a really big bonus and excitement so I just wanted to say congratul ation again this is a day that so many folks have been waiting for it's a lovely lovely end of your gift yes very good is there anything else on items seven or 83 if if so we can move them okay do we do these need to be moved or just to receed and file okay okay so I have a motion for um items seven and 83 we have a we have a motion from councilman Vera second from councilwoman Henderson all those in favor say I opposed thank you so Chief trip remain standing so we're going to move to items 88 on station 24 okay so um I just received kind of like a schedule plary schedule of the process that it's going to take to build station 24 um I mean if you have any questions I can be more than happy to try to answer them for you you Bas on information that I receed and thank you for that ma'am so um question for you when are we looking at groundbreaking and then potentially having the uh ribbon cutting for station 24 that schedule according to the information I received from uh contract admin um it looks like start of construction would be March 1st of 26 and completion of construction will be March 1st of 27 so and and and thank you for that man we appreciate and We Know Chief trip that on a lot of things you're always I mean I remember when you first got in here one of the first things we jumped on together was 25 um and you know the the the issue with 24 where we with Joe Greco was then the head of the union and I see Mr sto here Joe Greco and and the administration and yourself worked together um to first get everything done for 25 to help out with 13 right and then we decided to have 24 focus on North Tampa as opposed to New Tampa because of the issue with station 13 which was one out of 23 stations in the city but took up that area took up one out of seven calls so 25 is a down payment and then 24 was going to sort of be the big finish to everything so uh and and I'm sure and obviously you have your position uh in in terms of where you're at in the administration Etc but I know from your just the things that you've done that you want this thing to move fast obviously um the men and the women that that you talk to whether they're at station 11 station 13 that whole area they want this thing to move fast um so in fact I remember when I spoke to the union on this about because we dealt with this in the 23 budget I think we put design and then in 24 we funded and then we we were looking at bonding for 24 as well as for Fleet Maintenance the issue was the location and when I spoke to the union I said Hey listen if we go out and and you know try to fight for a home run is opposed to a double or a triple they're not going to have the property and God knows how long it could take three years three or four well we're here and we're hearing that it may take three or four years with the property right so my big question Chief is to the administration is we have the property why are we looking at a ribbon cutting on this two two and a half years from now when the property is there um so is there anything ma'am that we can do to move this issue along because again for my constituents um in our constituents this is such a critical issue with the people that you serve and that your uh men and women under you serve so is there anything that we can do and I will be making a motion on this obviously but is there anything else that we can do man so um councilman my expertise of course is saving lives and property so when it comes to this here I you know expect it to be sooner I don't know the ins and outs of it so I wouldn't be able to speak on that and once again as you stated the funding was put in and I just thought maybe we'll be breaking ground next year but um I had a contract admin send me the information and this is what they proposed so they will have to be the one to be able to see if there's anything we can do um I even inquired if it's possible to kind of shorten up the design phase of it to you know replicate one of the other stations that we have to see if that will shorten up so I haven't see the answer for that one yes ma'am and thank you for that I mean I think and I'm certainly no fire expert far from it but that we should have a goal of looking at groundbreaking in October of next year October 2025 I think would be reasonable uh that would be two years after we passed uh design roughly one year after we passed the the actual construction funds in the budget and ma'am may we have that timeline email to council would that be okay sure thank you so and and so all and then on I'll talk on Fleet Maintenance uh in a little bit but so what I want to um have motioned is that we have on February 6th um I made a motion for y'all to report on um Fleet Maintenance and 24 kind of collided with this motion which is sort of funny um to make sure that you guys have enough time to get all the Departments down right that need to take a look at this timeline I'll be making a motion at the end to have the appropriate representatives and the Departments um to look at a timeline or a plan for shortening um getting to 24 because I just think that again given the urgency in North Tampa for this I I I think that's something that's very very important and and and thank you for that and then in terms of Fleet Maintenance um such an important did somebody say something oh yes ma'am please go ahead sorry Council to divide it up um station 24 I agree wholeheartedly March of 2026 is not acceptable um and I know that doesn't have anything to do with you but I I would love to have uh contract admin come explain it because if I remember correctly when we were talking about this in the budget that's when they said it was going to take a year yeah so or actually that was before that was when we were initially talking about the budget so that was like July uh so I was I did a ride along at station 11 Monday night and found out that was the that's the newest station I've ever been to it's only 10 years old it was beautiful in terms of the design so I have talked to you about design before so I got to see it I got to see the um the um you know kind of hangout space on one side and the sleeping Quarters on another make perfect sense uh and from my understanding we just wanted to use that same footprint and just expand it a little because station 11 has three bays and if I remember correctly wanted five four four okay so just even one more Bay so I don't know why it would take a year to add a bay so I would definitely um I will happily accept your motion as long as we have admin here um contract admin to explain and I and quite frankly I think February is a little late um because I don't think that contract admin should take that long to tell us why expanding a bay takes a year sure yeah I have no problem with that so okay councilman V did you want to say something else yes sir and thank you very much and then terms of Fleet Maintenance which is again you know this Council voted unanimously to um uh begin the process of bonding for something because it really speaks to how important we all and now we obviously know that you share in that um taking a look at station n because moving Fleet Maintenance out of there opens up station 9 for an expansion to help out the growing West Tampa area we have so many folks moving into West Tampa uh big projects happening there um are you able to speak on what real estate has done or is that not something that you can speak speak to because I know councilman or chairman Clint dennon had wisely mentioned looking outside of City Limits um for potential Fleet Maintenance and I think that's great um is there anybody here who can speak to that or is that oh ma'am yes ma'am yes ma'am come to the podium please and state I might qualify Michelle vom real estate City of Tampa so I was here um September 5th at your last meeting and um uh addressing some of your questions about some of our approaches is something and how we've what we've done all of our different efforts how we've gotten creative and at that time I had mentioned the yes we had looked outside of the county we continue to look outside of the County uh we also just recently there was an auction bid for 14 acres $14 million was a little bit too high for our price tag for what we can manage we continue to look at even leas properties that are on the east side of the county that might be able to accommodate us trying to see if we can negotiate someone who might be willing to s even if they're advertised for leasing a lot of the problems we run into as we talked about a few months ago is finding a property at least 5 Acres finding a property somewhat centrally located outside of the flood plane and that doesn't come with other tenants uh we need to use the entire site and is also located so that this use is not in the middle or adjacent to a heavy residential area either because of the nature of a 50,000 ft warehouse and all of that outside equipment so with those constraints and trying to find a 5 Acre Site but we are uh we do continue to look outside the county on November 19th we had additional properties that our staff went out we continue to talk to Chief trip and continue to co call anyone that we can find that we might be able to make it use I also talked about in September the two properties that we were working on the one that um was our first site the property owner we're just over a million and a half half apart we're just not going to be able to make that work as of now there's no movement at all on the part of the seller and we just are not a developer who can who's going to flip it that can afford those kind of prices the second site that I started to talk about a little bit in September that owner was out of country they are back we have a draft contract with them we have our first appraisal at the end of next week after the holidays before the end of the week the second appraisal which is required for over a $500,000 acquisition they're giving us a verbal on what that second appraisal will say so we're not even waiting for the written report and based on that result we'll be able to tweak that contract and continue to move forward so we are really hoping that that property does work out the location is prime it works for the fire chief so hopefully by the time you come back in January we can say yes we are in the process of we wouldn't be able to bring the contract right at January 9th just the holidays but bring by the end of January early February an actual contract for sale on that property that is our goal lately though we haven't been super lucky so we're going to cross every single finger we have so just to clarify the record I know you said outside the county what you meant was outside the city outside the city limits yes just to clarify the record yes we're not looking outside for perpetuity yeah okay very good anybody else Council M do you have anything else a motion if I may I make a motion at this time sir for new bus it's for it's on point go ahead go ahead okay yes so we have right now in February 6th um of next year uh Tampa Fire Rescue and real estate department were to provide an updated report on the status of property acquisition for Fleet Maintenance the status of fire station 24 um and and some different issues I would like to uh add on to that if I may um a verbal and written report consistent with what's been requested by the administration including contract Administration and any other departments that may be needed that may be relevant for this on what needs to be done for a plan to shorten the timeline for a groundbreaking on station 24 to October of 2025 okay we have a motion from councilman Viera a second from councilman Miranda councilman herk I saw you go in for your microphone did you have something to say okay okay uh that's it anybody want to speak all those in favor of the motion say I I opposed I have it unanimously councilman her uh I just had one more question that again anytime you go hang out in a fire station those folks have solved the whole world problems um but they also give you a whole new line of questioning and things to think about and and one thing that we talked about that um I I hadn't uh considered um again for a while was downtown and Channel Side I know that Water Street is working on their second development north of um the development they have have there been any conversations about fire station in that area does anybody know about that as they create their development not from fire I actually have not been involved with the development side of it so I don't know if Economic Development have had some conversations about that I'm not sure uh Chief of Staff do you know anything about that Chief of Staff Bennett good afternoon Council good afternoon public John benett Chief of Staff I'm not aware of a a relationship between the develop and the fire needs typically those would come from a level of service you know and response time that we've talked about um and one thing I know both in police and the fire side that I've worked on is population of course doesn't correlate to a level of service directly but it is something to look at and I know um some other things are coming across uh datadriven wise about um our growth within our needs so I'm sure that's something for us to watch so thank you for bringing that up and and the reason I bring it up is because by the time the re rezoning comes to us we we're told that we can't you know advocate for something at that point so I just think I I believe I could speak for all of us when I say we would like to advocate for it now yeah so that when it does come to us it even even if it's just an empty shell space that we can then fill later something that fire can hang their hat on so we know that we can reach people even if they only use it for rescue cars right now and then eventually have an engine um medical calls are still going to be an issue regardless um because as we as more people move to that area the there just isn't there aren't enough people yeah and there's there's a lot of tactical and infrastructure solutions to meet those demands and and I will tell you we had a project um where we in a developers agreement proposal there was space for that in that exact area the project never went forward so therefore we didn't have the space but so that's top of mind when these things are at the table so okay thank you for that feedback yeah I mean because the I know Thea is involved as well um working on that extra space that they have now that the railroad is gone so I do believe and basically I'll just I expect to see something like that when that development comes forward from either Thea the developer us a city how do we all work together to make that happen yep absolutely thank you councilman cson yeah I just wanted to add um the last time I talked to them um Water Street s about this a year ago I was talking to them about the um the parking garage there that the port owns and they have the lease on that space at the bottom and and at least the representative I spoke to said they were willing to give it up because they thought that was an okay space with the point being that they don't they don't they have not planned space for anything but without naming names you know there's another land owner to the north that has um on Channel Side Drive who has offered his space too oh great but um there I think there there are a lot of opportunities that space under in the bottom of the garage is huge it was meant for uh department store and and big trucks going in there um there there's a lot of different place we can thank you councilman Vier uh yes sir so councilwoman herac you mentioned Channel Side that's actually attached to the February 6th motion oh but if you would like to do a separate motion because that motion is you know a bunch of different issues you know or maybe not now but maybe when we come back think about it because that's that's important I agree and so uh honestly if I were to do anything I would just uh I would say I would amend your motion to um talk about maybe getting uh miss fely here to talk about maybe that would be the department that needs to come and let us know how they're working to to to or or how they can work with you to see what we can do to incentivize getting that in one of the developments as we go forward so I think that would be my motion to amend to have Miss fely join us to speak about what what she's doing in development and growth management to find space for another fire station Claire is is you're making a motion for what date for the February 6th February Channel Side is already part of that motion so I'm amending it to say to have Miss fely join us so to talk about the development portion okay I have a motion from Council woman herk a second councilman Vier all those in favor I I opposed and if I may I I I I didn't know I mean I don't think Mr staco has anything to say doesn't look I if you wanted to add anything I think okay thank you thank you Chief appr appreciate it thank you so much okay if I have uh correctly taken notes I believe we're at item number 92 now we do both together do we have a CFO in the room I saw him earlier he vanished nicey holid happy holidays Chief do we know where uh Dennis rero is oh there there and there he is hiding hiding thank you who's do that so I was actually wondering why everybody was leaving the room before I before I got up you have that effect wow it's funny it's funny because it's true all good humor is based in reality um so uh Mr Harrow would you like to do 92 and 93 together or separate uh I would in fact uh I I would we've got kind of a multi- segmented presentation for you because you know we've got uh an original motion two amendments so you got three actions taking place over two two uh agenda items 92 and 93 so okay so we will address 92 and 93 together state your name and start thank you very much Dennis rero Chief Financial Officer good afternoon councel good afternoon yes yeah he will do time yeah staff reports it's got two because it's a St yeah five but he's got two items so 10 yeah this is the initial presentation so so Mr roaro um we have time limits to five per item so you've got 10 minutes if you need more time let me know thank you I imagine I will need more time but but part of it depends on just how much yeah Council wants to hear me talk there we're we're going to try to let you present without interruption okay thank you appreciate that and I'll stop interrupting now I'll stop interrupting now thank you again and thank you uh in the back for putting the presentation up uh you all can see it I presume excellent excellent uh we have what I think is some very good information to share with Council uh I'd like to kind of set the table and and frame it we're we're going to share a great deal of information and there's even more to come again we're we're kind of segmenting it so if I could set the table uh with a little bit of background information uh oh before I forget I would be remiss if I didn't thank as has been the case in the past Miss kesy I sure appreciate your dialogue and discussion with me and my team as we've worked to create this but we think is a very very good project I also is your are your screens flashing just mine if anyone's listening in the back my screen's going off and on but but we have yes could you that'd be that'd be great well we'll just keep plowing ahead hey sir's that and I I believe that completes my time uh thank you stop flashing thank you in the back I also again would be remiss if I didn't thank uh you know my accounting and budget teams for uh really working it down to the wire for this information uh some information I'll pass out a little later you'll see that it's dated as recently as yesterday it does not get that much hot off the press much more hot off the press than that so I sure appreciate uh their efforts you'll note as we go through this presentation and if you're looking through it we often reiterate that these are un audited and we want to make that very clear because while we've got great great confidence on our numbers as Council knows and I think much of the public knows now uh after the first of the year by law we have an outside independent thirdparty CPA firm come in and audit our financials for the previous year so we've got great confidence but we want to we want to stress that these have not been looked at by an independent third party uh finally in one of our briefings this week and I hope you don't mind uh councilwoman herac uh you know you had stated and again I hope you don't mind me repeating it what I thought was a very very good point this is uh our first time doing this you know typically you'll receive this information not until May uh and you're getting it before the end of the calendar year before the end right before the end of the first quarter so we imagine this is going to be the uh simply the start of a long conversation we've got a good story to tell but uh you as is typical with Finance there are a lot of caveats and a lot of nuances uh we think it's going to be a good process uh so we appreciate yall's patience with us as we go through this as we continue dialog and that was my introduction all right and of course here uh paraphrased uh is the motion the fiscal year last year the fiscal year 24 adopted budget and the preliminary year end what we affectionately call the actuals how did we compare uh when all was said and done in the last fiscal year to how we thought we were going to be according to the budget and the variance and we'll start with the general fund and you see uh we did well we did well although as you've heard me say before as you heard me say last year and as I'll say again uh you know variations of anything less than 3 to 5% at this scale are very tight very very tight this is a good story but uh you know 2% or less variation that's a bullseye that's a bullseye um and uh there are various reasons why it is so close I'm some of it's a little bit of luck I'm not going to lie to you but much of it is very very good expertise and experience on the part of uh my shop on the part of the Departments the part of city council I mean after y'all after all y'all are the ones that approv the budget uh and on the part of the mayor on the part of the whole team because when it comes down to it we're trying to predict the future okay and as we try to predict the future though you've heard me say this before we're not setting it and forgetting it we're we're participating the entirety of the city including Council in active financial management and that's the best practice you want to chart a course but as conditions change you need to change if you still want to make that destination and that's what you see here a very good story very tight tolerances though uh last year uh or last last year a report for fiscal year 23 had a variance of 19 million so again this is consistently very very very close and that's how we want it we don't want it too close because if you Teeter on that edge and you go over then we're pulling funding from the fund balance and we don't want to do that so uh I was telling my staff earlier today you know this is kind of like giving you the book going to the end and telling you the butler did it okay now I'd like to walk you through the book and tell you why the butler did it so this is where uh we ended up and uh you know we recently somewhat recently shared with you our credit rating upgrades and I just want to reiterate that what you see here this level of expertise with a little bit of luck is exactly what's expected of a triple A rated local government agency and that's what you and the public are receiving one last I know I've said this already but one last we're going to get into a great deal of detail and then I'm going to provide you even more detail but it when when it comes to general fund or any funds Financial sustainabil sustainability and resiliency you hear that a lot especially uh post storm activity after the summer when it comes to sustainability and resiliency this is where the rubber meets the road at the fund level we monitor Council monitors we do a great deal of monitoring of activities of Departments of offices of people but if your fund is not in good shape you've got bigger problems than what's happening at the operational level and this this fund is in very good shape getting into the detail these are the taxes you see here again the bottom uh little more you know $6.6 million or a variation of just under 1.6% again very very tight but in this particular instance it gives us 6.6 million more dollars so we'll take it I mean $6.6 million is a nice chunk of change going down the line there you see the major drivers adval taxes of course those are property taxes and at this scale again with this level of variation the property taxes that's pretty much people simply not taking advantage of the discounts that they can take advantage of by paying their property taxes earlier okay uh they'll pay a little bit more and we get a little bit more revenue and you're seeing that right there the next uh you see the next line down the utility services tax our Utility Services taxes are the electricity water gas Etc and there was more use by our customers in the last fiscal year for an additional almost $1.4 million the communication Services taxes you know we we thought this was on life support for years and as you've heard me state it certainly didn't grow as we would have liked it to but it has leveled off somewhat we're getting a little over $800,000 for our trouble this year and again we can we can talk about uh anything in more detail after the presentation I don't want to get too bogged down into the weeds but again $6.6 million from our taxes and uh we'll take it our licenses and permits and our second major category again uh the main driver here are the franchise fees just uh you know less than a 1% variance this is just a projection not quite being dead center and you see for for an overall total loss of just under half a million would we like to have that half a million we absolutely would but it's just over 1% variation overall so very very tight tolerance again and you're going to hear me say that uh more than once our intergovernmental revenues uh both main drivers have the word state in them the 1 two 33d and and fourth column the first state item you see a variance of nearly 50% and that is somewhat by design that is the state's contribution to the city for the fire and police pension fund and they provide that information uh late in the fiscal year uh much too late to accommodate um as part of the adopted budget and no real reason to uh to to uh try to second guess them and bring a financial resolution we simply act as a pass through we get the $3.8 million for this and we send it on over to the pension fund so there's really nothing to be gained uh from our from our wallet in that particular action the state revenue sharing again getting up there in the in the variation a little less than 9% or almost $5.5 million this is a formulaic distribution by the state and it primarily represents an across the board Statewide reduction in sales taxes associated with spending on items that are subject to the sales tax not much we can do there but grin and bear it because again it's based on a formula and it's distributed by the state uh you see the net at the bottom again a variance of just uh over 1% do I need to ask for more time at this yeah CFO how can you estimate how much time and we can make a motion to that I have and again I can make it as as brief or as long as Council would like but I've got at least another 20 minutes another 20 minutes yeah yes okay make a motion for 20 minutes okay we have a motion from Council I'll try to we have a council skinny it down we have a coun motion from councilwoman herch a second from councilman Miranda all those in favor oppos so add 20 minutes CL please mainly because we haven't had a chance to even look at this ahead of time so yeah yes AB absolutely and and and now thank you for that if I'm sharing too much my presumption is Council will want to digest this this information and we'll continue to talk about but uh you know the last thing we really want to do is just give you a data dump but if but if you find I'm elaborating a little too much I'm I'm happy to condense it and of course we'll continue the discussion and we can come back but thank you for indulging me uh in the meantime and and that's pretty much the story on our intergovernmental revenues Council our charges for service uh again the bottom line uh still a just shy of a 5% variation uh or variance but you see more variation among the line item levels the Big Driver here is the Public Safety Services those are your EMS fees and uh fire and police extra duty this is from the city's pocketbook perspective half a good story because it's about half extra Duty which again we're simply a pass through Services have been provided by our officers and firefighters we paid for those services and we passed them through the other half are the Emergency Management our EMS transport fees and ALS BLS Etc uh that increase about half of that is due to somewhat recently uh we increased the EMS fees you'll recall and in keeping with a u a message and methodology that will continue to repeat Council will recall we increase those fees and we've indexed them okay you've heard that with solid waste you've heard that with storm water you've heard that with water you've heard that with was waste water because from our perspective and I think Council agrees we need to get into a position where we're not falling behind and keeping a pace and uh that's uh those are the primary reasons associated with that increase in revenue cultur and Recreation services a little over $600,000 we'll take it we uh we aggressively budgeted the convention center last year and they exceed it's about 5050 between the convention center and Parks and Recreation the convention center has been at as you know tremendously successful and this represented being even more success successful than we had projected and we were pretty aggressive in our projection so a good story there judgments fines and forfeitures uh ma'am where on the the um slide before the convention center is does it fall under culture and Recreation services or yes ma'am I'm sorry I'm sorry if I wasn't clear yeah you have the convention center and Parks and Recreation and together I I should have mentioned in the beginning these are the state mandated chart of accounts titles we we don't call it culture and recreation here but this is what we're mandated to group them as you see at the top by category these are the categories defined by the state thank you so yes so sometimes you got to you got to go searching for it so thank you for asking that that's where they're at to get get through this can we take notes and then do it all at the end so we had all agreed to have a presentation yeah it was just I know I I can't I got to go back to that slide just to get that point yes sir chair that's how you want to do it that's how we wanted to do it that was our rules yeah thank no it's fine go ahead copy judgments fines and and forfeits uh the entire story there really are the court ordered fines and those are the red light camera revenues uh 1.7 almost $1.8 million more uh primarily due to increased tickets um I cannot speak as to whether more people are running red lights or the scrutiny associated with the red light running videos uh has increased but I can tell you we picked up almost a third more Revenue than we anticipated $1.8 million and our our everybody loves the other category but again this is a state man uh M mandated category ization uh interest and other earnings uh yet another example of in finance there are so many caveats and nuances in their you see uh on the right 116 plus per increase almost $10 million not quite so much some of that is Phantom money and I don't want to get too wonkish and we can talk about it but at the end of every fiscal year we have to mark to Market what we have we have to identify what is the value of our assets on September 30th I don't know 12 midday I don't know on September 30th if we sold everything and of course we won't sell everything and we never will we have to mark it this year or excuse me last year it came in a plus okay about half of that so when you see that $9.9 million about half of that are the interest earnings again we have to categorize them according to the state you see it there so what you probably already know is if if you an investor last year it was a fantastic year we're seeing that across the Spectrum fire and police pension fund the general employees pension fund and that stayed the same for those funds that we invest while we're waiting to use them while we're waiting to pay as we store up the property taxes so again what i' call half a good story there also the use of fund balance is uh well let me talk about the proceeds oh because you're going to hear this a couple times you see we uh adopted no budget for proceeds uh but we actualized $2.3 million well what happened I don't know if Council remembers but somewhat recently we brought to you a series of financial resolutions associated with the the government Accounting Standards Board uh it's gby 96 as it's affectionally called affectionately called and if you'll remember uh gasby which we adhere to came down and decreed that if you have long-term agreements associated with software you have to treat those like a debt because they are long-term liabilities just as any other debt is so you may recall that 79 Million worth of activity ended up netting to zero as we moved millions millions from a number of different accounts to another to other different accounts and part of that just part of it because you hear about it again was this 2 point almost $2.3 million you'll see a a like reduction elsewhere in the presentation the use of fund balance you'll see there we uh the adopted budget 12.1 million and we spent none of that and that's because you don't spend from fund balance you you you hold it in a bance and then you appropriate it with council's permission to the particular spending categories so it's it's a little it's a little disingenuous but it's it's it's right but but you just you don't spend from a reserve account you don't spend from a fund balance you appropriate the fund balance sometime into a reserve and then you appropriate the reserve elsewhere so you can spend it etc etc and again we can get into more detail if you'd like to but a couple of outliers that just don't really tell the story at this level and here you have the general fund revenues in total again a variance of just over 1 and a half% for $10.5 million to the good to the good so it's a good story so far uh and it's it's going to continue to be a good story as we roll into the expenditures and here are the expenditures uh uh I'm going to tell you as expert as we are nobody but nobody at this scale at almost half a billion dollars is relying on Expert decent experience to come in at 0.3% variance that's yes thank you but that's a little too too tight um so a little bit of luck uh couple of things I'll point out you see in salaries and wages uh we spent less than $38 million and coincidentally we spent more uh $38 million in benefits why is that because you have a number of benefit items that's very similar to how we treat the reserve benefits annual leave sick leave things like that you don't expense from them you budget there and then you appropriated to the salaries and wages so you will often see a negative and a positive nothing nearly that close typically but you're appropriating funding in one area and you're expending it in another area so it really is at this level conducive to look at those two items uh in Toto and you you see that there dead on lot of expertise lot of luck coming in just that just that tight and our operating expenses you got you have a bit more variants uh and and I'm okay with that you got a couple of a couple of drivers here your operating expenses we spent far less than we anticipated you see that right there almost $17 million uh little bit of luck but a lot of active management again uh Council experiences it almost every council meeting where we will bring to you Financial resolutions recommending that you move money based on either what's imminent or what we think is going to happen in the medium or long term and you see that there very very good job of managing the Opera expenses uh unfortunately in the fixed and allocated costs uh vehicle repair and fuel costs uh came in over just just over 11% more than we anticipated um anecdotally I think we are making Headway on the vehicle maintenance expenses as we continue to replenish uh the fleet but I I think everybody's aware we were starting from from quite the disadvantage in terms of uh replacing our Rolling Stock and so for a net savings as you see at the bottom of over 13 million doar oh you know what I would be remiss in in looking at my notes some of that operator I don't I don't want to mislead we did a great job of active managing but again you you'll recall that gby 96 software something that's that's in there you'll recall the increase elsewhere and a decrease here so good active management but again you've got that gby Financial resolution that we brought to counsel in there on the capital front Quite A variation and you see uh most of that is the computer hardware software you'll you'll never guess what that is that is the gby 996 software sof because as we're as we're pulling it from other accounts we're also adding it into their so uh on the surface it looks like we drastically overspent our computer hardware and software well again we were compelled to make that change according to the Accounting Standards Board uh debt quite a bit larger you see under the principle and once again I'm not making this up that's gasby 96 and the uh software again you'll see it under debt an increase why because we're treating it as such as a debt is it you know I won't go down that rabbit hole but is it is it a bonafide dead issuance no but it is a long-term liability again and uh it's probably more accurate they certainly decided that it was probably more accurate to demonstrate to council to the mayor to the public what kind of long-term obligations we have and our grants uh again uh Aid uh to other organizations uh that is primarily our social action and arts fund uh we're uh I think an a workshop associated with social action and arts funds is imminent I think if if I'm not mistaken next month so we can of course I anticipate we'll get into more detail on that [Music] then again the wonderful other uh column here got a couple of things going on here the primary uh one of the primary drivers you see our budget reserves summary group adopted budget $19 million you see actuals of next to nothing and a variance of 19 million again this is uh if nothing else an internal control mechanism for the City of Tampa as we appropriate an amount of reserves that we think we're going to spend and again we can't spend from the reserve so it goes in other places but we set it up ahead of time and it provides that trip wire if there's an attempt to spend more of our reserves than we anticipate during the adopted budget so you're going to see a very large and that's by design a very large negative that $19 million and you and you'll again you will always see that so little misleading a little wonkish but but it is a large negative number and I did want to explain it uh our transfer to other funds these are primarily transfers associated with our emergency fund balance and uh storms Helen and milk uh we'll get into a little more detail of that in a moment but again as council is aware we have an emergency fund balance of seven odd million dollar pardon me and uh um another uh an insurance Reserve uh the number Escapes Me So what you're seeing there is the city is us making use of that that emergency fund balance in in the aftermath of those storms and I'll talk about that a little more in a moment and wrapping up here are is the expenditure total okay know if I needed to stop we still got four uh a little less than 2% again a good story less than we spent less than we anticipated as long as we're continuing to provide the services I think that's always a good story and again at this level uh that's a bullseye and here is that end of the book we were talking about again this was one of the first slides we excuse me that we talked about $23.9 million better than we anticipated and uh what I'd like to do is uh expand on that just a little as my laptop comes up and the reason I'd like to expl on that is as Council knows and who anyone who's uh who's ever watched us go through the financials probably can guess it's a little more complicated than Simply Having $24 million to spend on Fillin the blank I'm going to show a slide from last year's midyear presentation if I can have the Elmo up pleas if y'all can let me know when you see it's taking its time it's going green probably trying to give you a break in the back has Dennis drones on and you uh can you see it now yes okay and you see here again you know as I referenced before this was what we presented last year uh midyear report for the preceding fiscal year fiscal year 23 again you see very very uh tight again just over $19 million for an ending uh in addition very very similar to our 2324 million we're talking about now for an ending fund balance you can see there as part of that presentation and again I think for the first time we went over some of the different fund balance categories you have your nonspendable which which is your inventory you're not going to get rid of that you have restricted you have committed we'll get to assigned and unassigned in just a moment and the various or examples of the various categories you see here we need to restrict particular funding for grant funding certain taxes we need to commit funding for purchase orders future year commitments you'll you'll recall a great example of future year commitments was is the remaining $5 million for the DUIs legal settlement we have to hold that 5 million uh in AB bance because that's coming it's two years uh I believe it's 3 million in the current fiscal year and 2 million in fiscal year 26 it's a great example of committed reserved and then we get into and this is this is really the Crux of my point into the assigned reserves insurance emergency hurricane claims and judgment health healthare and I I think one of the things we'll we'll need to discuss and the council will want to discuss uh centers around the assigned fund balance uh we just had I don't know 100 Year 200 year 300 year two major storms that we continue to spend money on and await reimbursement we are fortunate in that we had an emergency fund balance to tap and we tapped it the question uh and I think I know the answer is do we replenish that do we replenish that uh do we increase it you know based based on you what has happened uh very similarly with insurance do we anticipate that insurance costs are going to go up subsequent to those two storms I'm no insurance expert but it seems like it would be prudent to account for that one of the other things that we have not really experienced uh but I think the answer is yes to what extent can we anticipate an adverse impact on our property tax collection associated with those storms and should we set aside something to account for that we're running various scenarios right now just so you know we're talking with other localities we're talking with FEMA we're talking with other experts what have they seen happened to similar communities following similar disasters what was the level of adverse impact to their prop to their property tax collections uh right now and it's it's it it's in the beginning uh and there are people far smarter than I am out there about this but right now most of the taxpayers have paid their taxes okay uh there will inevitably be requests to to to re-evaluate if you're out of your home I think for 30 days or something perhaps you get forgiven but the property appraiser values the property every single year if we're if we're right we think the greatest adverse impact is going to be in fiscal year 26 not in the current fiscal year when and how much do we start continue and wrap it up I'm sorry just continue and wrap up you're good keep going okay thank you thank you uh so some of the things we need to talk about should we set that aside how much should we decide and again I think it's open for discussion how much of that 23% base that we talk about do we look to address some of these anticipated impacts so a number of discussions out there that when you get down to it there in my opinion there is going to be significantly less than $24 million to spend depending on the decisions associated with the different types of fund balances food for thought and uh but I I I will tell you um you know as we go through the numbers if I can have the presentation back up thank you all in the backgate that it can you pull uh Mr Harrow's presentation back up S yeah there we go oh you got it yep on page 20 we need it on the public screen as well oh okay I don't have it on on my screen but it's coming up it's coming up now oh okay there you go I'm just impatient all right thank you so and i' I've saved probably the largest impact for last you've got $24 million uh up there but as Council knows as our budget increases as our operating expenditures increase the amount of funding we have to hold in unassigned fund balance to meet that 23% also increases that's 11 M just about $1 million so if Council wants to continue holding that unassigned fund ballot of 23% uh $1 million has to come off that $24 million figure so there's $13 million and then in my opinion you get into those subd discussions we just talked about uh Hurricane fund balance uh adverse impact property taxes Insurance increases things like that so um it's a good story again don't get me wrong but there is far more to it than just simply $24 million floating around out there I will move on to the motion amendment number one a general fund list of financial transactions that will reduce the fund balance uh relatively few you see it there now uh Council has approved seven Financial amendments last fiscal year uh since that motion was made which had an impact on the budgets within the general fund and then uh you see also uh under the mayor's executive order that's where the funding was transferred from the uh Hurricane fund balance associated with uh hurricane hen uh the other Big Ticket items you see uh oh dare I forget tropical storm Debbie uh I I admittedly forget it when I talking about Helen and Milton but it did come with an expense and you see that right there uh terminal leave uh for a total of $15.1 million um I don't really see a great deal of choice in funding these items and I don't think council did either when they approved them um but but you know you you did ask and I I think going forward you want to continue to see an accounting of actions that could impact the fund balance and and you see that here uh thank you I do have uh two other things uh which I I think will be very brief uh the first is this was not included in the motion but we figured and again thank you Hager and discussion with Miss kesy since we were already engaging in the exercise anyway we also have similar information for the interprise funds that I just shared with you for the general fund I'm getting the feeling that perhaps we can just share it with you as opposed to to walking you through all of them uh again similar PowerPoint presentations and and we're happy to answer any questions of course at any time so if you'd like that we can pass that out to you also absolutely okay yes is that good with councel yeah okay yes thank you thank you sir and here he comes now wow I asked you what those were for I'm sorry was that she asked what these were and I couldn't tell her oh yeah oh tell her they were did I did I swear you to secrecy I saw that ear it was your Christmas present okay we'll wait for him to distribute those and then we'll move on and thank you thank you oh so it's not oh oh this Mr raro thank you very much for a comprehensive presentation this is this is the way to do business thank you very much and Council questions I saw councilwoman herk oh you're very welcome thank you well I just want to say thank you thank you so much for compiling this um for working with Miss kesy on it um now that she kind of has gotten to know us she knows the some of the types of things that we're looking for um and this is something you may not be able to answer but just certain things that are coming to mind in that1 million in the variance from the 2023 budget what did we end up spending that money on uh off the top of my head a component now I couldn't tell you what it is now a component would have stated un assigned to meet that 23% uh debt level and then after that I I'm at but we can we can we can find that out yeah I mean I I think that would be just interesting because then it would help us figure out what we have or what has historically been done with with the money that's left over um to kind of predict how we could use it so I just have a couple of questions and again these are things that you can come back with uh and coming back just just to mention we have a budget Workshop coming up uh for February February 27th is going to be the bonding capacity oh yes and um the capital Improvement report so anything um that might be a good date to bring back some of the answers to this um if I were to make a motion which I might that would be timely if you want to do it yes well well what I'm saying is um you want to just do it another day and just well well okay so we can do it multiple ways if you want I mean I think we all have some questions maybe if we get them we come back from break well I was going to say if we could get them to your office by the first week we're back from break would that be enough time to have answers by the end of February I think I was going to ask you when is uh roughly 27 27th yes ma'am okay yes thank you so then what I will do in order to sit in the interest of time is I will uh make a motion for all of council to go through these documents to come up with questions to send them to both yourself and miss kesy and uh to have them do back by I believe our first meeting is January 9th so January 10th a second we have a motion for councilwoman herk a second from councilman Carlson all those in favor opposed don't you want to make a motion so that to make sure that he has the followup to this attached to that day oh and and and I'm sorry and to have the answers provided to us at the February 27th Workshop copy second okay so we have a motion for an addendum to the motion we have a second from councilman Carlson all those in favor I opposed because I have a feeling you'll have some similar questions agreed and and and and I apologize I was writing what was the what were the January date references um just so we need to have the questions to you by the 10th which is the Friday after our first meeting back thank you so that's our responsibility thank you very much okay coun I saw councilman uh Carlson's life first counc Carlson um I I'll hold questions and and long comments but just real fast I thank you again for the transparency and detail that you and your people are going through um the last couple years that's been outstanding and and um I I think it's always great when um I don't know about the others but but when you anticipate what we want and you put in there already and so we don't even have to ask the questions and you remember what the questions we asked the last time and the public really appreciates this because they they very much want confidence and transparency into all the government the other thing though that I that that I would ask you this is just a maybe a formatting thing but on the Enterprise which we'll talk about later um uh it it would help if because I'm a business person I'm a private sector person but also in the B it would help if if we had like a p&l um because what I'm doing is flipping the pages back and forth to see like parking says 42 million and then expenses are 47 million so does that mean we lost 5 million it nowhere does it say that so understood understood and yeah we're kind of making you do the math yeah so so the the value there would be to figure out how are we going to fix that are we going to cut costs or are we going to try to increase revenues where where are we headed um we can flit pages but if if we had that I think it would help the private sector people understand the numbers better thank you understood councilman Carlson I'm sorry coun Miranda I'm looking at you and calling you know I can't tell the difference I can't tell the difference I can't tell the difference yes that all your hard cost that be coming in from somewhere else uh I believe it I believe it was all hard cost again I'm going from memory uh and and if I can if me back up a little bit uh as Council Knows by now you know you've got debris costs you've got compensation and benefit cost uh Etc so those were hard costs uh and uh I'll segue just a little bit you know one of the reasons we're fortunate to have the fund balance that we do and the liquidity that we do is because we are floating a great deal of expense and will continue to float a great deal of expense associated with these storms I I will complement FEMA they are they are reimbursing funding faster than I've ever seen them reimburse but there is still a necessary time frame to to float an amount of money and in our case it's millions of dollars I think I over anwered your question but yes thank you so I have a question if does anybody else have any questions yes sir um reference that reimbursement the female reimbursement Government Federal reimbursement for the city um how how much do you where do you show in these documents that we just saw what that's going to look like at the bottom line as far as like you know these expenses do you think do you think it's going to be close to parody of like 100% of storm related expenses I you won't find them here because we have an accounted for all of we we've got and I'm oversimplifying it but we basically got two things we've got expenses you know that we've already had to meet or that are short-term and imminent and then we have the you know the long-term expenses um I I don't think they're going to achieve as you said parity uh you know FEMA has and the federal government have instituted a few different scenarios wherein and I'm sure you've read about it if you can accomplish debris removal is a great example if you can accomplish this much Within 90 days they'll reimburse you 100% great great but you know we have the typical expenses that we experience compensation and benefits primarily um wherein uh federal government will reimburse 75% the state will reimburse 12 a half and then we're on the hook for the other 12 and a half I think we're going to from a proportionality perspective be better off than we have in past storms because of the amount they're willing willing to reimburse I also think we're going to spend less money or have more liquidity because the speed at which they're willing to reimburse uh up to a point for instance we've got almost $30 million going from memory inbound right now which is unheard of uh in my experience from a turnaround time from FEMA's perspective I hope that answers your question yeah it does so the um the reimbursement coming in we we'll be able to reimburse our fund as well well yes sir so okay so we won't have to worry when you're talking about do we have to reimburse well there'll be money there to replenish this we don't have to create new money for that so yes and if I could just expand just a little bit on that you you may have read recently that the City of St Petersburg for instance uh they took out I think a $50 million I don't know if it was a line of credit or bank note to help fund uh their expenses associated with the storms so far we don't see the necessity for that on on the city of Tampa's part uh undoubtedly they're doing sounds like good planning on somebody's part yes yes we we'll take it now you never know you never know what what Black Swan is out there right but and undoubtedly they're taking the best action for their particular municipality as everybody is but so far because of our liquidity and our significant fund balance we don't see the need for that okay very good um any additional any questions anything else well I think that wraps it up and what a great presentation I really appreciate that thank you very much I appreciate that very much uh I do have at the risk of overstaying my welcome uh too late too late 25 minutes ago then I I I do have number uh number 93 yes you see the treasures over here okay uh this was uh a request for the actual Revenue showing increases and decreases compared to the adopted budget and uh we have Pro provided this or I'm about to provide it uh it's 241 pages about 40 lines per page what it replicates very closely is the line item budget we gave to council back in September so clearly you know not conducive to a PowerPoint presentation um I think we've probably covered most of the issues in the categorization presentation but again we've got a great deal of detail for you Christmas homework is that what given Usry merry Christmas happy happy happy New Year numbers Gotta Love numbers uh and I can pass them out now or later whenever this is this is as good a time as any you don't need to go to the gym today that's right what council I think that completes the assignment well thank you sir have a merry Christmas and I appreciate uh y'all too thank you as always I appreciate it okay very good okay well that if if I my calculations are correct that concludes the agenda and we will move on to new business councilman Miranda councilman ver yeah really quick if I may Mr chair um on April 24th we have a workshop on Sulfur Springs I wanted to include also with that a discussion on the status of the Sulfur Springs pool um just to make sure that we keep our eye on that and if the administration needs more time on a proper update we can do that but that's all just include that as a we have a motion sure I can do that Community Stepping Stones as well yeah that's fine we have a motion from councilman Vieira with the two items spring pool and Stepping Stones we have a second from councilman Carlson all those in favor opposed um thank you for that and and I don't know if I already motioned for this if I did I apologize there's a gentleman Luis aroo r a r r o yo who was a heart driver who passed on recently um he was formerly NYPD and was at at at 911 at at uh uh grounder on September 11th of 2011 um there is a as an officer and he died and I was going to give him a city council strike that his family excuse me a city council Commendation to his family and survivors at the harp meeting I may have already motioned for this but just to be sure that's all okay we have a motion for councilwoman Vier a second from councilwoman herk all those in favor I oppos and then lastly we had done a motion on Local 754 getting the documents they need on public safety data ahead of the March 27th 2025 meeting um and we saw a a a memo from or strike that email from Mr sto regarding I think it was like a $6,000 cost or something so I I would like to do a motion urging that the documents that are necessary be provided to the union $6,000 entails a lot of work I'm glad to meet with someone from the administration and Mr sto in between um because again when you see 6,000 we don't want people taking 10 hours on something whatever it may be um but that a motion again reiterating that the documents that are necessary to to be able to acquire this information for the March 27 2025 meeting be sent to um 754 and again I'm I'm glad to meet with people because you know not just to throw it on somebody that's my motion we have a count motion from councilman ver second from councilman Miranda all those in favor I opposed eyes have it and that's it thank you Council appreciate you councilwoman Henderson thank you Dr Chief suen can you Dr Chief can you come put this on the overhead for me please I want to show y'all that uh I have two motions one here left by the chair from Maniscalco this motion says that he would like to make a motion for feeding Tampa Bay to make a 10-minute presentation on their annual report on February 20th 2025 CEO Tom Mintz um will be presenting we have a motion from councilwoman Henderson a second from councilman Vier all those in favor oppos have it and then also in the form of a memo I would like for staff um to provide counsel with a uh a memo um for the general scope and the RFP official date for the Army Navy property by January 9 2024 in memo format we have a motion from councilwoman Henderson a second from councilman brandall those in favor I opposed I have it oh good I I was going to explain myself but okay and then lastly um last week I um you know did a call to action for staff to support me in um going over to the Walton Academy um to celebrate Christmas with the kindergartens there and it was very successful I have some pictures and videos but this is um a card that they provided just saying thank you and um one of the feedbacks from one of the young men who um young boys that received a football he said it was the best day of his life and so I'm just so thankful for you all um supporting such a wonderful thing for you know young kids um at Walton Academy their school flooded and um you know it took them a little bit longer to get back um to the business of education so this is just one way to you know show some love and I appreciate it and that's them saying thank you thank you councilwoman herte yes thank you um so I have a motion uh Mr bday has requested a continuance for a staff report on sidewalk in Luffy that is Cur ly scheduled for January 23rd 2025 Mr bday requested a new date of March 27th 2025 so he has time to meet with both the Tampa Bay um Builders Association and than prior to his presentation so I move to continue the staff report on sidewalk in Luffy from January 9th to March 27th 2025 we have a motion from councilwoman herk a second from councilman Miranda all those in favor I opposed eyes have it okay I moved to have staff prepare a written staff report for January 23rd 2025 with the number of current leases the city has for land and or buildings and for each the monthly cost the length of lease and the use of the leased building or land second we have a motion for councilwoman herk we have a second from councilman Miranda all those in favor I oppos eyes have it uh we had to reschedule the Commendation for Harry Hedges due to the hurricane so I would like to Res schedule his in Chambers Commendation to January 23rd 2025 we have a motion for councilwoman htech second from councilman mirand all those in favor say I I oppos eyes have it and I would like uh we we heard from Community Stepping Stones today is anyone planning on doing a motion because if not I will um Mr Herrero is in here I sent you a message did you want to address that okay coun okay Mr Roo can you CH Chief would you like yeah one of you because because we found out that we we appropriated $20,000 during the summer an emergency appropriation they didn't get it till November and so i''d like to hear about that and then also about why it's taking so long for them I mean this is an underprivileged uh Community Asset that we just absolutely um I know Council supports wholeheartedly in Sulfur Springs in sulur Springs so that we took based on the pool being destroyed as well yeah the uh also just a sidebar comment toward it is that um brain freeze come on when this is their first time receiving social action funds so I was equating it to the possibility that they needed to complete the paperwork because I know that that you know also took some time for some of the first timers and I'm just wondering if that was part of the reason um prior even to the emergency funds but but when you're told it's going to be on the December 5th of is and then you're told it's going to be on the December 19th agenda and then it isn't like we need know what's going let let them respond uh Chief yeah yeah yeah John benett Chief of Staff so I that was the first encounter I heard about that when I came in this morning I was approached and I learned about the fifth and then of course the 19th and now Beyond um I sent a note out to Legal uh OA wi's portfolio and um copied Chief roero as well uh Andrea went into the onbase queue it seems that it's sitting in between um in the Parks and Rec base which is handling this so um anyway I also emailed everybody that was here when I heard about it and I said um I know Dennis Now work on everything possible to make sure it is on the the ninth agenda as well as to uh council member um Henderson's point it is a hefty Mount be going from 20 to 75 only because of all of that I think all that's been done um I think it's in the onbase Q and I think there were some absences and I'll be talking about proxies in addition to that um so that's something I'll have to reverse engineer based on what I saw in the queue today but uh I can tell you this this is the first time I heard of it Dove right in got everybody on board I agree with you stepping stones was a big part of my crime reduction Sulfur Springs back in the day so I know what its value is speaking of the 20,000 I know we accelerated that administratively I can't speak to why it was November so is there a suggestion of these things getting walked through as opposed to relying these electronic cues so somebody take ownership in it so that's that's kind of the the challenge triangle so we have the budget side we have the legal side and we have the subject matter side but if there's a single point of contact that's we go we're growing into that so this this whole agreement process that is beyond in the code is is is a work in progress to get a single point we could almost use like a grant Specialist or somebody that's sitting and that's something we're talking about is to see and I'll let Dennis maybe speak to that somewhat but um we're all taking a piece of it but then you know as they're working on the scope of services that's where it tends to get between the the the uh provider and the City trying to get those scope n the rest of it is boilerplate and then the queue is a process so most of the Machinery works is just really getting that scope or workd down on these new um providers if you this particular issue got caught in the queue though right this one's caught in the queue and that's just you know that's government bureaucracy and we'll work on the proxies for that councilwoman Henderson thank you chair protim um why is this why did this fall under oia W's portfolio is one question and just also to council this is coming to our January 30th Workshop um about social action funds so that's going to provide us with the opportunity to you know Shore up some of these very you know to to get some best practices in place um but why is this falling under her her so so each of them are yeah so each of the social actions and art funds are are parsed out to the subject matter expert Lane so for example whatever the deliverables are we don't have a social office so everybody who touches the closest thing to that deliverable for example um there's been some social action and arts funds that that deal with feeding we really don't have a Social Service division so we try and look for the closest match and and then whoever takes that works on the scope of services with that partner for example we've sent some recently to Communications that were on your agenda today and so all these things are are growing into their Lanes of traffic once the boiler plates refined the proc process of refine the proxies are and the repeatable ones then will get much smoother this is the first year we're really seeing the sonic boom of agreements so thank Mr Harry you have something to add yes uh thank you I just want to give credit where credits due you know as you heard the chief State you know he texted uh administrator WN and myself so she and I discussed it earlier today she unfortunately she's not available now but she says she's on it she's running it down may maybe we could have our uh budget analysts kind of like watch these things as well yeah yeah we talked about it today add that to the add that to the list it's loun councilwoman hearttech yeah I just have one more thing I wanted to update uh you all since we cannot talk any other time um I told you I sit on the TMA board uh for the TPO and we had our meeting um when uh Mr Wong Dr Wong was here on Thursday and the very next day I had my TMA meeting and I went to the meeting and the one thing they had on the agenda was to modify the work plan to include the expansion of 275 and between Hillsboro and barison I said well you know first of all city council a conversation yesterday was not was was skeptical of a regional merger and I said it would be a really nice Olive Branch for you all to say we really want to work with the city and a city council especially and not a approve this and they basically said we don't care about you we're going to approve it anyway so I just um which I thought was really interesting because I thought you know like we really want to work together um and of course that's that's that's my um animated take on it but basically they said that it was regionalism that mattered and that what the city of Tampa wanted didn't so um I told you I'd keep you updated that's the update thank you Council her councilman Carlson yeah thank you I have a few small ones um you know the uh the Jackson house was on the agenda today and and uh we moved it last week to February 20th um you saw today some of you saw today I was talking to Dr Collins and we reached out to her before uh We've also been talking to Dr Angela Scott who has been representing the foundation by email and I'll show you that in a second um but just in light of the the information that they've given me I'd like to change the the title of the motion uh the name of the item on February 20th uh um on that day there's kind of a carrot stick I want to take the stick out so uh Mo so I'd like to make a motion to change the name of the Jackson house agenda item on February 20th to quote presentation of the Jackson house renovation Plans by the Jackson house foundation because the foundation says they are ready to present Wonder okay we have a motion for councilman Carlson a second from councilwoman Henderson all those in favor opposed eyes have it I want to I want to that to that point I I just this will just take me a minute but I want to hand out these documents to you um these are documents from 10 years ago I talk about what what my involvement was with the Jackson house but I also want to show you just some historic documents I was starting to I was starting to wonder if my memory was correct and let me just take you through these documents real fast and I'm I'm uh I gave a copy to suing because I want to do a re receiving file in in the end to make sure that these old documents are in the current file so that somebody can find them but um if you look at this first document where I where I highlighted it um it's November 13 2013 it's no it's November 13 2013 a letter to Willie Robinson from the city and uh it says if you don't do if you don't repair I'm just going to paraphrase if you don't repair the Jackson house uh by November 30th 2013 the city will proceed with the Demolition process so the city um and you see Bob mcdunn has copied here it's on the buor um administration's letterhead but they ordered the Jackson house destroyed this is when I the first day I met Willie he gave me he showed me this letter I didn't have a copy of it until just now but November 30th was a Saturday after Thanksgiving and so um it was um really bad that that they were going to tear it down when nobody was watching the second letter is from is to um uh the Willies uh attorney Rick Gilmore and um and and Rick had sent the city a letter saying well we want a chance to fix it and by then we had been talking to some people about trying to fix it and so they showed that evidence and Rick and then the city wrote back and said uh at the end but but this if you don't if you don't move quickly the city will be compelled to move forward with an order to demolish that will require the exped demolition of the structure the point I'm making is there are multiple documents here where the city in 2013 was ordering the demolition of the of the Jackson house I've never done that I'm I the the question is whether the Jackson house has the capacity to to renovate it or whether the city or somebody else should do it the next document says um the city will if you don't do the above the city will demolish the structure at its cost and assess a lean Superior to all other leans except tax leans on the property for that cost plus $175 Sur charge by the time we got a a proposal on the table to fix the Jacks now it was it was the cost of demolition plus 60,000 in fines I think plus plus interest the next thing and Charlie may remember this the next thing is a is a um a transcript from that 200000 so the day I met Willie was on a Wednesday and as soon as I saw that letter I said we get can we do I called Linda Salena she came in the next morning to city council Charlie was here he was chair I guess and uh there was they interrupted a public meeting when she got up and spoke there was a 30-minute discussion about the Jackson house and at the end you can see on the last page at the end there was a motion of city council uh by Frank reck um to uh and you can see that that Charlie was cheer a motion by Frank reck to um stay the execution of the Jack house and give it an extra 30 days so this is the proof and that we've got the video now also they pulled up the video archive if you guys want it not now but I we can share it with you if you want but this shows that um uh had had Willie not told me and I not told Linda Salena and had city council not acted the Jackson house would have been torn down this Saturday after Thanksgiving the next document again order talks about order to demolish the next document talks about order to demolish the next document has several dates on it so what happened is that the other call I made was to an attorney for Bubba Love Sponge and they put together a whole um uh in kind and cash uh plan to fix it they go to the closing table with Willie we offer to buy the property from him and then the city put this document on the on the table and what it says is if you don't do X by February 3rd we'll tear it down if you don't do y by March 3rd we'll tear it down if you don't do Z by a April 7 and so there were all these onerous um requirements and then because of that um the the next letter is is the uh bu spunch Foundation all the donors walked because they knew it was going to be torn down anyway and you see on here that they they said in in good faith in having conversations with you we thought you were going to protect and allow us to do this but it now it appears that you won't so they pulled out skip the next document is um is just the videos of Dr Collins coming a year ago but the final document I want to show you is um this email that and there's some updated emails but this is the email from Dr Angela Scott and the highlighted part says uh the Jackson house board remains steadfastly committed to restoring and preserving this important tra landmark in the Tampa community and to that end we look forward to the opportunity to share our progress and plans at the city council meeting of February 20th so based on that email and the conversation with um uh Dr Collins they say they're ready to present their renovation plan and so I hope they will can I please make a motion receive and file this file moot motion receive and file second for councilwoman herk all those in favor all opposed I have it so the next couple are um on on um sorry it's taking so long but on Janu on January 30th we have a workshop and there's a discussion about updating the storm waterer plan and um when we add as amendments to the to to the Motions sometimes they get they get lost and so what I'd like to do is make a couple small motions that would ride with the bigger motion so that they're separate and I would ask storm waterer people don't just combine them and give us a summary answer each question and and to be honest these these convers these things I'm going to ask for are coming from multiple conversations I've had with stormwater staff in the field talking to Residents and residents doing research asking tough questions and good questions of storm water and so a so hold one so having separate would technically probably exceed the number of items but what it really is is it's like an is there is there Council desire to to wave that for that work Shelby city council attorney just the fact that if it's a workshop session your rules state that you you want to do as much as it takes to get out of there by 1:00 so just know that if you put on too much you may run you may run past lunch the it appears as the maker of the motion that would conform with that because it's well actually if these it's the same it's the same staff person same topics and if these are all related maybe as part of the motion if you could just have them go sequentially and have them grouped together so that you don't have to rearrange the the docket so I would say include that in the motion that this rather have rather than have them sub so they're group they're grouped together so they go on sequentially yes because because there is a rule now that's in place your new rules and I don't have it in my fingertips for batim that says staff cannot combine motions on its own without council's pre-approval yeah so so all of these motions should be treated separately so this motion the motion that this the councilman is going to make will be the individ individual motions that will be presented sequentially at that at that Workshop well said so the the city just to let you all know you may know this the city has hired a group of contractors the lead one is called land and water and they're the ones doing the broad analysis on the Storm waterer plan they're doing the analysis where today we're supposed to talk about maintenance they're doing the analysis on maintenance and the CIP they're going neighborhood by neighborhood they're going to be meeting with neighborhoods and and the concern of the neighborhoods is that as you're doing your analysis we need to get some projects moving potentially because uh we're going to hit the the storm water season again and so um what besides the staff report I'd like to make a motion to ask the city stormwater planning consultant land and water to present to city council every two months starting with the January 30th meeting adjacent to the storm waterer planning item and then every two months in a regular in regular meetings thereafter the purpose will be to give city council and the public regular updates on their storm waterer maintenance and planning analysis and to determine short-term Solutions as quickly as possible that can be implemented par parallel to the overall storm watering plan purpose the intent will be to do whatever we can to prevent flooding in the next rainy season and then it has the specific dates um listed here okay we have a motion for councilman Carlson a second for Council Wan htek all those in favor I opposed eyes have it um and then the next that's the same thing the um the next one is that the city has the city stormw department has a maintenance metrics site but it's not very detailed and not not specific enough and so adjacent to these others I'd like to make a motion to add a stormwater maintenance metrics update adjacent to the storm waterer plan discussion on January 30th okay sequentially uh we have a motion from councilman Carlson a second from second councilman Carl um Miranda all those in favor say I oppose I have it and the last one I've got two more but the last one on this topic there's some very specific things that that as as experts and others have been looking at that they'd like us to include again um motion to modify so we have a um the the thing that was on today was a quarterly uh storm waterer update um and if you look at it it's the same report over and over again interestingly palmaia Pines didn't didn't appear until the last couple months it was in none of the original uh reports but anyway it's the same report over and over again I'd like to modify the the quarterly um storm waterer update which was in item number 95 today to read as follows quote Administration to provide a quarterly report on storm waterer to include one storm waterer plan updates two stormwater fee SL budget update three maintenance efforts mapped by District including a map showing hot spots in need four infrastructure performance after the storm events five commentary on each CIP project including a summary Quantified performance toward stated goals and cost benefit analysis Roi second for discussion so would this replace we we have a motion from councilman Carlson a second for councilwoman herte discussion councilwoman her um so this will replace what's there already so basically what you're saying is keep what's there but add a um add a maintenance portion well what what it says right now is um something like a um a a written quarterly report on stormwater plan and so we we're adding these five things in there uh to make it more specific um about what's going on because uh maintenance is a big thing that's not there but the budget really is not exactly there and um infrastructure performance is not there um that could we have it as a a second document so they could keep the the document the the um form of the one they have and then have a second document or does number five kind of make them redo that document I think that in number one and number five that storm waterer Plan update and number five comment any I think those two kind of cover what they're already doing okay well then I I second I my second hold and perhaps staff if they have the issue with a they this would replace the language that said 95 and then it would carry along in the same way every and and if staff needs clarification they with your office and so that is a motion to amend a previous motion is that correct is that the way you take this yes so okay so it's a motion to amend okay okay so we have a motion to amend the previous standing Council motion from councilman Carlson a second from Council her all those in favor I oppos eyes have it thank you la last one I sent this one out in advance uh you guys can vote this supper down but um we can talk about the issues later but that as we have a lot of really smart people in the community and we have some content experts and as they're watching presentations on things they check it with the facts they check it with documents and they check it against other facts in the in the public and they um at least on the recent Parkland Estates thing they have three p Parkland Estates uh civic association is three pages of errors that they found and so I um I would like to make a motion to ask legal staff to return on February 20th 2025 with a draft ordinance that would require City staff and representatives to be sworn in prior to presenting or discussing City projects um and that they be informed that they must be truthful in statements they make ideally the ordinance would also contain penalties such as the immediate termination of employees or contractors who are found to have presented false testimony the under oath okay I have a question I have a question about that so you're asking them to come back on 20th with the proposal for this uh draft ordinance draft ordinance okay we have we have a motion from councilman Carlson is there is there a second is there a second the only way I would second this if he does the same thing for City Council Members I don't care if we do it for SE do you want to amend your motion I can't say anything okay it's dead okay we have a motion with failure to receive a second that's set aside thank you and I actually Mr Miranda can you take the mic for a moment yes sir Mr chair chair thank you um I motion for staff to present a city council what would be required for the City of Tampa to assume responsibility for the T TCO street car operations from Hillsboro uh Area Rapid Transit Authority I request they come back and present to the Council on June 5th of 2025 city council regular session motion by Mr clinten we have a second I'm sorry I Mr second Mr Carlson second I in fav the motion please po by saying I I oppose nay the I have unanimously is there I'm sorry herch no is there anything else 41 I'm sorry okay actually we have sta here yes sir state your name uh Justin vasy legal department it's referen to number item item 82 in the agenda the resolution has a reference to December 5th when we initially put it into onbase and today's date is the 19th so I'm asking that we do a substitute resolution with a correct date for the effectiv DAT of the resolution now the um this does not have the attachment to it so the attachment from the one that has the scribers error will then attached to this sub this substitute so we we have a motion from Council hson to correct it with as a scribner's error was there a second second we have a second with councilman Miranda all those in favor say I oppose eyes have it thank you that's it thank you okay and Mr Shelby just uh happy holidays to city council I just want to thank you each of you for the honor and privilege of serving you in 2024 and uh I look forward to this Council um doing working its magic in 2025 so thank you motion to receive and file we have motion to receive and file second from councilman Branda second from councilman Carlson all those in favor Merry Christmas everyone holiday [Music] [Music] [Music] the plug and since then you know it's been a blessing to work for the City of Tampa all right so I want to kind of try out this bad boy can I can I grab some debris yeah yeah we got to go let's do it