. >>COUN. DAVIS: CAN YOU HEAR US OKAY? FOLKS , DPE AND WELCOME TO THE 23rd MEETING OF THE 25th CITY COUNCIL. ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT. AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. IT'S LED BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ IN ENGLISH AND IN SPANISH BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. [ RECITING THE PLEDGE ]. [ RECITING THE PLEDGE IN SPANISH ]. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, BOTH. A FEW HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS. WE'RE GOING TO PLAY WITH THE VOLUME A LITTLE BIT. CIVIC PLAZA PARKING PASSES WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. YOU CAN OBTAIN A PARKING PASS FROM THE STAFF AT THE TABLE NEAR THE CHAMBERS ENTRANCE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OR STAFF AND MEDIA HAVE THE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS IN PERSON AND LIVE STREAM THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. GOTV, ZOOM, AND YOUTUBE. THEY CAN ME ACCESSED FROM SMART PHONES AND TABLETS. THE MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED AND YOU MAY ENABLE THAT. A RECORDING OF THIS REMAIN HONEST THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEBSITE. COUNCIL STAFF ARE AVAILABLE TO HELP MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT NEEDS ASSISTANCE. CALL 768-3100 DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS. WE'LL TAKE A BREAK AT APPROXIMATELY 7 P.M. WITH REGARD TO DECORUM. WE WANT TONIGHT'S PROCEEDING TO BE CIVIL. PLEASE DON'T MAKE PERSONAL ATTACKS. HELP KEEP THE MEETING ON TRACK BY NO APPLAUSE OR OUTBURSTS. THE MEETING GOES SMOOTHER IF WE'RE RESPECTFUL TO EACH OTHER. THAT BRINGS ME TO THINGS I HAVE TO SAY. THIS IS ABOUT DECORUM AND RULES IN PLACE. WE'LL REMIND THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS WHEN WE GET TO THEM. THERE'S NO SIGNS , PROPS OR BANNERS OTHER THAN THAT WHICH CAN BE DISPLAYED DURING THE OVERHEAD. SUCH MATERIAL SHOULD NOT BE HELD OR WAIVED THAT CREATES A DISTRACTION FROM THE SPEAKER. ANY ITEMS MUST BE REMOVED AT THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT. THONL INDIVIDUAL WHOM THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT HAS CALLED ON TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT MAY STAND AT THE PODIUM UNLESS YOU NEED A TRANSLATOR OR REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS. MULTIPLE PERSONS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO STAND BEHIND THE PRESENTER. THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS STRICTLY ENFORCED. YOU'LL GET A WARNING AND NOTICE AND WE'LL ENFORCE THE RULE. PUBLIC COMMENT MUST BE DIRECTED THROUGH THE PRESIDENT AND NOT AT THE STAFF. THERE'S NO TOLERANCE FOR DISRUPTIVE PUBLIC OUTBURST. HANDICAPPED AREA IS TO THE RIGHT AND MUST BE KEPT CLEAR. FOR THOSE DESIRING TO RECORD OR TAKE PICTURES YOU'RE DIRECTED TO THE LANDING AREA. YOU CAN CHECK WITH OUR STAFF FOR SAFETY. THE FIRE MARSHAL ENSURES PUBLIC SAFETY. I'LL PROVIDE ONE WARNING TO THOSE CAUSING A DISRUPTION. ON THE SECOND, THE INDIVIDUAL WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE CHAMBERS AND SECURITY ASKED TO ESCOURT THE PERSON OUT. SUCH REMOVAL IS EFFECTIVE FOR THE MEETING. IF CONTINUED DISRUPTIONS OCCUR I MAY RECESS THE MEETING UNTIL ORDER IS RESTORED. AND IF NECESSARY CLEAR THE CHAMBER OF PERSONS DOING THE DISTURBANCE. NOW WE'RE GOING TO PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE SELFLESS SEEN CONSIDERS. SHANNON BARNHILL, AND VAL BIRCH DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE APS EDUCATION FOUNDATION TO ACCEPT. I WOULD LOVE FOR OUR SENIORS TO COME DOWN TOO. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WHEREAS, ALBUQUERQUE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ESTABLISHED THE SELFLESS SENIOR PROGRAM TO RECOGNIZE STUDENTS WHO QUIETLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH SELFLESS ACTS THAT DO NOT EARN A LOT OF FANFARE OR RECOGNITION. AND WHEREAS, APS HAS PARTNERED WITH FRANK ROSS ON THIS INITIATIVE FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS TO RECOGNIZE AND SELL PRATE THESE STUDENT FOR THE DEDICATION TO THEIR SCHOOLS AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO SERVING OTHERS. AND WHEREAS STUDENTS FROM APS SCHOOLERIZE NOMINATED BY FRIENDS, SCHOOL STAFF, FAMILIES OR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND MOST HAVE NEVER BEEN PUBLICLY THANKED OR PRAISED FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS, THE YOUNG PEOPLE CHOSEN FOR THE CLASS OF 2023 REPRESENT THE BEST OF OUR CITY AND OUR HOPE FOR A BRIGHT FUTURE. AND THEY ARE FROM ALBUQUERQUE HIGH SCHOOL. AVA STRATTEN. FROM ATRISCO HERITAGE, RAUZLEN MORALES. FROM CIBOLA, REBECCA THOMAS. FROM ELDORADO MARA LACY. FROM FREEDOM HIGH SCHOOL MATH YOU HENDERSON. FROM LA CUEVA, MICHAEL LOPEZ. FROM MONZAANO OLIVIA. FROM RIO GRANDE, ENRIQUE. FROM SANDIA, WILLIAM. FROM VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL, TIANA. ASK FROM VOLCANO VISTA, ZOEY. AND FROM WEST MESA, MARIEL. BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE COUNCIL, THE GOVERNING PODDY -- BODY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE RECOGNIZES THE ALBUQUERQUE SCHOOLS 2023 SELFLESS SENIORS AND THANKS THEM FOR OUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, GUYS. I'M SO PROUD OF YOU. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>COUN. GROUT: SHANNON, I'D LIKE TO ASK IF YOU IF YOU WOULD TELL US ABOUT THE FOUNDATION AND WHAT IT DOES FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND CHILDREN. >> THANK YOU, GOOD EVENING. COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILORS, CITIZENS, WE APPRECIATE BEING HERE. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE EDUCATION FOUNDATION. I'M HONORED TO BE HERE TONIGHT. WITH THESE AMAZING 14 SELFLESS SENIORS. ON BEHALF OF THE APS FOUNDATION OUR 2023 SELFLESS SENIORS WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE SERVICE OF THESE INCREDIBLE SOON TO BE GRADUATE. -- AND HAS BEEN SO WONDERFUL AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE OUR COMMUNITY AND CITY KNOWS ABOUT THE AMAZING KIDS AND WHAT THEY'RE GIVING BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY. HE'S NOT LOOKING TO HONOR THE ALREADY SPOTLIGHTED KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS HE'S LOOKING FOR THOSE WHO WANTED TO GIVE SELFLESSLY BACK TO COM AND PEERS WITHOUT EXPECTATION OF PRAISE. WE TELL EACH CLASS OF THE SELFLESS SENIORS THEY REPRESENT THEIR SCHOOLS AND THEIR SPIRIT OF ALL STUDENTS THAT GRAYS THEIR HALL. WE TELL THEM THEY REPRESENT THEIR DISTRICT, THE ENTIRE STUDENT BODY AND INSPIRES ACTS OF SERVICE IN UNDERCLASSMAN, MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. WE CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY HAVE THIS PROCLAMATION AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND WE APPRECIATE THE GENEROUS SPIRIT THAT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HAS GIVEN TO THEM. THIS REMINDS US ALL WE CAN MAKE TIME TO GIVE THOSE IN NEED, CHAMPION A CAUSE, GIVE VOICE TO THE VOICELESS AND IN THAT SPIRIT MAKE THIS A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FRIENDS AND FAMILIES IN THE AUDIENCE. I WOULD LIKE THEM TO STAND AND WAVE BECAUSE WE'RE PROUD OF THE STUDENTS THEY HAVE PROVIDED ALBUQUERQUE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. [ APPLAUSE ]. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND THIS RECOGNITION. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, SHANNON. I KNOW YOU GUYS AND GALS ARE GOING TO DO GREAT THINGS IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>COUN. DAVIS: I THINK YOU HAVE ANOTHER PROCLAMATION. >>COUN. GROUT: I DO. I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT HOMICIDE UNIT TO COME UP. >>COUN. GROUT: HELLO. CHIEF MEDINA, I'M VERY PROUD OF THESE MEN AND WOMEN. I WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION. THEY HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY BUSY. WHEREAS, THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT HOMICIDE UNIT HAD A 4% CASE CLEARANCE RATE IN 2022, COMPARED WITH AN AVERAGE OF 55% IN PREVIOUS YEARS. WHEREAS 117 HOMICIDE SUSPECTS WERE CHARGED OR FOUND DECEASED LAST YEAR, BRINGING A SENSE OF CLOSURE TO FAMILIES THAT LOST A LOVED ONE TO VIOLENT CRIME. AND WHEREAS, APD HOMICIDE DETECTIVES SOLVED MORE HOMICIDES THAN EVER IN 2022. CLOSING 119 CASES INCLUDING 69 OF THE 120 HOMICIDES FROM 2022 ALONE. WHEREAS, THE HOMICIDE UNIT NOW CONSISTS OF 16 DETECTIVES ASK TWO SARGE WANTS. AND THEY ARE SERGEANT JAIME, SERGEANT DAVID, OR DETECTIVE CONNOR, AND DETECTIVE JOHN, DETECTIVE STEPHANIE, DETECTIVE CHRIS, DETECTIVE CURTIS, DETECTIVE SCOTT, DETECTIVE STEVEN, DETECTIVE BRETT, DETECTIVE EDWARD, DETECTIVE DAVID, DETECTIVE ANN, DETECTIVE IAN, DETECTIVE JESSIE, DETECTIVE JORDAN, DETECTIVE WILLIAM, DETECTIVE BRANDON. WHEREAS THE UNIT ADDED A DIGITAL INTELLIGENCE TEAM WHICH ASSISTS INVESTIGATIONS OF VIOLENT CRIME BY COLLECTING DIGITAL EVIDENCE FROM HISTORICAL RECORDS DEVICE LOCATIONS AND CELL TOWER DATA. THAT TEAM INCLUDES EXAMINER COLETTE, EXAMINER KARA, EXAMINER CATHERINE. AND ARE AS THE VICTIM SERVICES WAS CREATED THIS YEAR TO ENSURE THAT SURVIVORS OF VIOLENT CRIME ARE TREATED WITH RESPECT, COMPASSION, AND DIGNITY. THEY ARE, CAREY, LEEANN, BRITNEY, AND HOMICIDE LIAISON JENNIFER. AND WHEREAS A SINGLE HOMICIDE IS ONE TOO MANY. AND THAT 120 OF THE HORRIBLE CRIMES WERE COMMITTED IN A SINGLE YEAR SHOULD SHOCK OUR COMMUNITY. WHILE WE NEVER BRING BACK THE PRECIOUS LIFE LOST THE HOMICIDE TEAM DILIGENTLY WORKED TO BRING THE PROCESS OF JUSTICE AND CLOSURE FOR THOSE THAT LOST A LOVED ONE TO VIOLENCE. BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE COUNCIL, THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE APPLAUDS THE HOMICIDE UNIT, AND INVESTIGATORS AND VICTIM ADVOCATES FOR THE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU, ALL. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>COUN. GROUT: IF YOU WOULD COME THROUGH HERE, WE'D LIKE TO PERSONALLY SHAKE YOUR HANDS AND THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: CHIEF, WOULD YOU MIND SAYING A FEW MORE WORDS ABOUT THESE WONDERFUL MEN AND WOMEN? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR GROUT, I WANT TO STHAUNG FOR RECOGNIZING HOMICIDE UNIT PUTS THEIR LIVES ON HOLD. I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS I GET ALERTS THERE'S BEEN A HOMICIDE AND I KNOW OUR TEAM IS OUT THERE. THEY GO OUT AND HELP OTHERS AND FINDING A SENSE OF JUSTICE AND CLOSURE. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE DETECTIVES AND THEY DESERVE ALL THE CREDIT. PUT THERE ARE A FEW OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DOING A WONDERFUL JOB. EVERY TEAM NEED AS COACH. I WANT TO THANK RACHEL, DEPUTY COMMANDER CARL, COMMANDER GEORGE, HE RETIRED AND I CONVINCED TO COME BACK. AND DEPUTY CHIEF BARKER IN THEIR DEDICATION AND MAKING SURE THEY BUILT A TEAM THAT WORKS AS ONE. YOU SAW ALL THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WORKED AS ONE. THERE'S THE CHEMISTRY AMONG THE TEAM AND THE SPIRIT AMONG THEM. I THINK A LOT OF THAT SPIRIT HAS TO DO WITH RECOGNITION AND THE FACT THEY HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY. JUST A REMINDER IT'S EASIER TO CLOSE 100% CASES IF WE HAVE MORE CLOSURES THAN HOMICIDES. NEXT UP IS COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: I WAS LOOKING OUT SAYING THEY'RE ALL SO COOL. THANK YOU. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU FIXED THE MIC? OR IS IT JUST ME? WOW. SO, NEXT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE ALBUQUERQUE REGIONAL ECONOMIC ALLIANCE AREA. DANIELLE CASEY IS HERE, SHE'S THE PRESIDENT AND CEO TO PRESENT. WELCOME. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. >> THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR GROUT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. COMMUNITY MEMBERS, IT'S A TRUE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE TONIGHT. OUT OF RESPECT FOR YOUR TIME I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH SLIDES QUICKLY AND GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO AND HOPEFULLY GET YOU SOME INFORMATION. WITH THAT, PLEASE HIT THE NEXT SLIDE. ALBUQUERQUE REGIONAL ECONOMIC ALLIANCE IS A REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION AND PARTNER IN THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE FORMALLY KNOWN AS ALBUQUERQUE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INC. IF YOU'VE HEARD THAT NAME, IT WAS A VERY INTENTIONAL SHIFT. TO START TALKING ABOUT REGIONAL AND OUR PARTNERSHIP ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. IT WAS CONFUSING FOR PEOPLE, THEY THOUGHT WE WERE THE CITY. I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON THE NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND AN AMAZING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF TEAM. OUR MISSION AS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION ISN'T JUST FOR GENERATING LEADS AND BEING MARKETING AND TRYING TO BRING JOBS IN WHICH IS A HUGE PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. BUT WE ALSO DO THAT EVERY DAY UNDER THE GUISE OF HOW WE DIVERSIFY THE ECONOMICS IN THE REGION. IF WE'RE NOT DOING THAT I DON'T KNOW THE PURPOSE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS WORK FOR A COUPLE DECADES. ALL RIGHT. IN TERMS OF SUPPORTING THE REGION. THE REGIONAL ORGANIZATION WE DO SERVE SANDOVAL, VULENSIA AND TORRANCE AND BERNALILLO COUNTY. WE HAVE A 45-MEMBER BOARD OF DIRECTORS. WHAT'S EXCITING, THERE'S BEEN A NEW THING IN THE PAST IS WE STOOD AT SEVERAL ADVISORY COUNCIL. BUT OUR PUBLIC SECTOR COUNCIL TO BETTER ENGAGE LOCAL OFFICIALS AND LEADERS. AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPERS ADVISORY COUNCIL. AND ALL THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPERS WORKING ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITIES AND ENGAGE WITH US AND WORK WITH US. NEXT PLEASE. WHY DO WE DO THIS? BECAUSE THE ECONOMY IS REGIONAL. IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, PEOPLE WORKING IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE ARE ONLY ABOUT 61% OF THEM LEFT IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND YOU CAN RUN THESE DATA POINT AS MULTITUDE OF WAYS. YOU HAVE TO BE THINKING ABOUT THE RIGHT THING AND ALL THINGS FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. UNIQUE POSITIONS, FOR THE REGION AND ENTIRE STATE. JUST A REMINDER WE WORK WITH THE WONDERFUL STATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WITH THE NEW MEXICO PARTNERSHIP AND AGAIN WITH ALL OF OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY PARTNERS. WHAT ARE WE UP AGAINST? WHY DOES AREA EXIST AND WHAT ARE WE FOCUSED ON ESPECIALLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS? WELL, I THINK YOU'RE ALL VERY AWARE AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE AWARE THIS TREMENDOUS COMPETITION. THE OTHER MARKETS AND COMMUNITIES, THERE'S OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT WANT TO JOBS WE HAVE HERE. THERE IS NOT ENOUGH SUPPLY OF ADEQUATE TALENT IN ANY COMMUNITY IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW THIS. AND ALSO CHALLENGES AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT IS A REALLY INTERESTING ISSUE. WE HAVE A LOT OF MANUFACTURING FOLKS LOOKING AT US. IT'S HARD TO LOCATE COMPANIES. WE DID OUR PLAN IN 2021. ONE OF THE THINGS WE NOTICED WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE RELATIVE COMPETITIVE POSITION IS WHERE WE WERE IN COMPARISON TO OTHER MARKET NATIONALLY. AND WE FOUND THAT UNFORTUNATELY WE WERE IN THE BOTTOM OF JOB GROWTH RATE. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME HAPPY. YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE AN UPWARD TRAJECTORY. AND A LOT OF WONDERFUL THINGS THAT MOVE THAT FORWARD. BUT THERE'S SIGNIFICANT WORK TO BE DONE. AND OBVIOUSLY ALSO OUR GDP AT A RATE LOWER THAN THE AVERAGE. AND WE'RE HERE TO CHANGE THAT. YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT THE DATA WE FOUND, THE GOAL IS TO REVERSE THAT. OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AREA MISSION AND PRIMARY GOAL ALONG WITH BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS LEANING ON ME TO GET THEM AND ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IS GETTING THE TOP. WHEN WE LOOK AT OTHER COMMUNITIES WITH THE SAME SIZE ACROSS THE COUNTRY I WANT US TO BEAT THEM IN JOB GROWTH. POSITIVE JOBS THAT CREATE CAREER PATHWAYS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND FAMILIES. NOT JUST ANY JOB. THAT ACCORDING TO OUR STATISTICS IS 8,000 NET JOBS OVER THE TIME PERIOD. VERY AGGRESSIVE. I BELIEVE DOABLE IF WE ALL PULL TOGETHER. NEXT PLEASE. AND THIS IS IMPORTANT. I ALWAYS LIKE TO COMPARE US WITH THE OTHER MARKETS AND COMMUNITIES WE'RE COMPETING AGAINST. IF WE JUST LOOK AT OURSELVES WE CAN SIT BACK AND SAY GREAT IN FEBRUARY 2023 WE'RE ALMOST BACK TO WHERE WE WERE RIGHT BEFORE COVID. THESE OTHER MARKETS YOU SEE ON THE DATA SIDE HAVE RECOVERED AND GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY AND MET NEW JOB GROWTH. I ALWAYS LIKE TO HAVE THAT IN THE BACK OF MY MIND. WHEN YOU'RE ON A FOOTBALL TEAM YOU ALWAYS THINK ABOUT WHO IS PLAYING NEXT WEEK AND NOT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE BRACKET. IF ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY IS INTERESTED IN SEEING THIS, WE HAVE INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE AND OUR FULL PLAN IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE THAT WANTS TO LOOK AT IT. GOING FORWARD NATIONALLY TO PROMOTE AND MARKET COMMUNITY AND THAT'S ALL ABOUT TALENT. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT FOR HOUR AND BREAK DOWN BARRIERS TO COMPETITIVENESS. NEXT PLEASE. THE BIG THING WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST YEAR EARLIEST, WE CREATED AND ADOPTED A STRATEGIC PLAN. AND I'D LIKE TO ADD THE CITY IS VERY INVOLVED IN THAT INFORMATION. WE REMAINED -- REWROTE OUR BYLAWS. ALL BYLAWS ALLOW FOR LOCAL ELECTED LEADERS TO SERVE ON OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS. NEVER IN OUR 60-YEAR HISTORY WAS THAT SET UP TO DO. WE HAVE FUN RAISED. NEARLY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. AND WE ARE NOW OFFICIALLY A 501C3 PUBLIC CHARITY AS OPPOSED TO A BUSINESS ASSOCIATION WHICH MEANS A 30% WAY OF OPERATING IN THINKING OF OUR OPERATION. NEXT PLEASE. REALLY QUICK THROUGH THE REST OF TEASE. THIS TALKS ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT MODEL. EVERYTHING ON THE RIGHT IS NEW. NEXT PLEASE. I LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY WE'RE A BEING CLEARINGHOUSE OF DATA AND RESEARCH. YOU CAN COME TO US, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY CAN COME TO US AND DO EVERYTHING FROM SOPHISTICATED ECONOMIC IMPACT AND SHOWING COMPANIES HOW WE'RE A COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT AND IF WE'RE NOT FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THERE. AND HOSTING FOR OTHER RESOURCES FOR BUSINESS UTILIZATION. YOU CAN GO NEXT. PERFECT. IN TERMS OF THE FACILITATOR, WHY DO YOU NEED A REGIONAL ECONOMIC DIRECTOR? YOU HAVE GREAT STAFF, GREAT PARTNERS. BUT WE ALSO ARE A CONDWIT, WE'RE AN OFFER ALL OF THE DATA AND RESEARCH I TALKED ABOUT. WE ARE LOCATION AGNOSTIC. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS IF WE'RE BRINGING IN COMPANIES AND JOBS AND OPPORTUNITIES WE WANT IT IN THE GREATER ALBUQUERQUE METRO. AND WE WANT IT IN THE RIGHT PLACE SO THAT INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY FOR THAT BUSINESS. THAT IS HOW WE LOOK AT. AND WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO REVOLOG OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER BOARDS AND LEADERS AND PROVIDE WHAT'S IMPORTANT POST-TRANSACTION SUPPORT. IN TERM OF THOSE PIPELINE WE'RE DRIVING FORWARD IN THE MARKET I THINK SOME OF THE DATA IS PRETTY COOL AND I'M SURE YOU'RE CURIOUS. WE HAVE ABOUT 65 OPPORTUNITIES IN THE PIPELINE. THIS IS A COUPLE DAYS OLD. I WILL TELL YOU WE HAVE HAD TWO PHYSICAL SITE VISITS FROM NATIONAL CLIENTS ALREADY IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. I HAVE A TEAM MEMBER OUT IN PHOENIX MEETING WITH ALL THE INVESTORS TODAY AND TOMORROW ALONG WITH THE NEW MEXICO PARTNERSHIP. I'M EXCITED ABOUT OUR LEAD SOURCE ACTIVITY THAT WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON -- REST IS DIRECT AREA WE'RE TRYING TO PUT COMPANIES IN THE MARKET. NO SURPRISE BUT ABOUT 70 TO 80% DEMAND IS MANUFACTURING SPACE. IF YOU WATCH WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH RESHORE{HOW WE DO BUSINESS BECAUSE OF COVID. AND IN A PERFECT WORLD IF YOU LAND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE COMPANIES, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR 14,000 JOBS FOR THIS MARKET AND REGION. OUR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE OPPORTUNITY NUMBER SO WE CAN CLOSE MORE NEW JOBS IN THE MARKET. NEXT PLEASE. YOU CAN IN THAT. JUST A COUPLE QUICK IMPACTS. IN 2022 WE'RE GLAD WE HAD EIGHT PROJECT ANNOUNCEMENTS. NEARLY 2,000 JOBS WERE ANNOUNCED. AND I LOVE THE $165 MILLION NET NEW PAYROLL. NEXT PLEASE. HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH SOME OF THE STAFF. JUST A HIGHLIGHT OF BUSINESS RETENTION PROJECTS WE'VE WORKED ON IN TANDEM WITH CITY STAFF. AND WE'RE ALREADY HOT AND HEAVY IN OUTBOUND LEAD GENERATION IN TERMS OF CALLING ON COMPANIES THAT NEVER HEARD OF OUR MARKET AND COMMUNITY AND TELLING THEM WHY THEY NEED TO BE HERE. WE'VE ALREADY HELD ABOUT TEN MEETINGS JUST SINCE EARLY NOVEMBER AND WE'RE GOING TO GO TO 25 ON THAT. AND YOU CAN SKIP OVER THIS ONE. SOME OF THE GREAT REPORT AND DATA WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR YOU. WE HAVE A NEW -- THINK OF THIS IS NOT A TOURISM WEBSITE, BUT IT WAS A SITE FOR ANYBODY THINKING ABOUT MOVING HERE FOR A JOB OR JOB OPPORTUNITY. THINGS LIKE HEALTH CARE AND OTHER SERVICES AND HOUSING. PLEASE LOOK AT THAT. WE USE THAT AS A RESOURCE. AND FINALLY WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE DOING OVER THE NEXT YEAR. IT'S PRETTY AGGRESSIVE. WE'RE DPOOB WORKING ON ADD VUICACY AGENDA THAT THINKS ABOUT HOW TO GET PRODUCTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GROUND. FOR BUSINESSES SO WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A FIGHTING CHANCE OF LOCATING THEM. WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON TALENT RESOURCES AND RESEARCH TO FIGURE OUT WHAT PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE MARKET THINK OF US. NOT JUST DOING HAPHAZARD MARKETING. WE'RE DOING STRATEGIC MARKETING. NEXT SLIDE. IF ANYONE WANTS TO KNOW WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WE HAVE QUARTERLY REPORTS. THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. AND WE HAVE ANNUAL REPORT FOR 2022 OUT FOR PUBLIC IN A COUPLE MORE WEEKS. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF THE AMAZING SUPPORT. THAT ALLOWS US TO SURVIVE AND THRIVE. AND YOUR INVESTORS AND THE LAST IS CLOSING SLIDE. THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT'S A LONG PRESENTATION EARLY IN THE EVENING. IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ONGOING SUPPORT. ONE OF THE THINGS I'M APPEALING YOU IS THINK OF THE REQUEST. SO WE CAN CONTINUE THIS. AND REALLY DOUBLE DOWN OUR EFFORTS AND PROVIDE GREATER RESULTS OVERTIME. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I REALLY WANTED YOU TO COME AND PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL. I'VE BEEN SO IMPRESSED WITH THE WORK YOU'RE DOING AND HOW ENERGIZED YOU ARE. AND SO MANY BUSINESSES, I'M ECHOING, I'M SORRY, FIRST YOU COULDN'T HEAR US AND NOW IT'S REALLY LOUD. BUT JUST REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE WORK YOU'RE DOING. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK AREA CAN BE A TREMENDOUS RESOURCE TO US. EVEN LOOKING AT PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION MAYBE QUARTERLY BECAUSE THE PEOPLE SHE'S MEETING WITH AND ATTRACTING AND BRINGING TO NEW MEXICO IS HELPFUL. NOT ONLY THAT HE'S BEEN A RESOURCE TO ME AND DISTRICT THREE. WE HAD A TOUR OF SOUTHWEST MESA JUST RECENTLY. BUSINESS LEADERS AND DEVELOPERS HAD THIS PERCEPTION OF THE SOUTHWEST AREA AND WANTED TO REALLY TAKE A TOUR AND LOOK AROUND AND SEE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE WERE. AND DANIELLE HELPED US WITH ALL THE DATA AND INFORMATION. INFORMATION THAT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE AREA. I JUST THOUGHT THIS IS TREMENDOUS AST -- ASSET ON CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, VICE-PRESIDENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. NEXT UP WOULD BE OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SEEING NO OTHER. WE'RE GOING TO ADMINISTRATION Q&A. WE HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS THIS EVENING. WE HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS WITH APD QUESTIONS. WE'LL START THERE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR BEING HERE. I HAVE HAD A LOT OF CALLS FROM CONSTITUENTS AND I SHARE THIS CONCERN. WE'RE SEEING AN INFLUX OF EXOTIC ANIMALS IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE'VE HEARD OF ALGATORS AND TIGERS AND THERE'S RUMORS THERE'S ADDITIONAL TIGERS BEING SHIPPED HERE. I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU CAN GIVE US A LITTLE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW APD IS RESPONDING TO THIS. BECAUSE THIS IS BEYOND ANIMAL CRUELTY WHICH IT'S AGAINST OUR LAWS. IT'S A SERIOUS PUBLIC HEALTH THREAT. TIGERS AND ALGATORS ARE NOT PETS. SO, CAN YOU JUST TALK -- I KNOW YOU WORK WITH GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW YOU EVALUATE THESE THREATS AND WHAT'S BEING DONE? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THERE'S LITERALLY LIONS AND TIGERS AND BEERS OUT THERE. WE'VE HAD AN INFLUX OF TIGERS. WE GOT OUR FIRST REPORT OF A TIGER IN THE FALL. AND WE INVESTIGATED IT EXTENSIVELY. WE DO HAVE INVESTIGATIVE LEADS THAT WE'VE BELIEVED THE TIGER IS RECOVERED OUTSIDE OF THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO BECAUSE IT GREW BEYOND THE CAPACITY OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD IT. WE HAD ANOTHER TIGER THAT WE TOOK INTO CUSTODY AND TURN IT OVER. AND THE ZOO DID A GOOD JOB. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, THESE COMMITTED INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED IN THENERCOTICS WORLD AND POSSIBLY HAVE CARTEL TIES. IT'S A COMPLICATED INVESTIGATION. YES, WE TAKE EVERY INVESTIGATION SERIOUS. WE LOOK INTO THEM. AT TIMES WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE PARTNERS FEDERALLY. AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE ANIMALS THEMSELVES AND POSSIBLE OTHER ACTIVE ISSUES. WE'LL CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE THEM. WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORKING WITH THE PARTNERS. AND YOU GAVE ME AN IDEA MAYBE WE CAN PUT SOMETHING ON CRIME STOPPERS TO GET PEOPLE TO REPORT INDIVIDUALS. I'LL WORK ON THAT AS WE LEAVE HERE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, CHIEF. I APPRECIATE THAT. AS YOU KNOW FOLKS ARE FORWARDING ME PUBLIC SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THEY ARE VERY ALARMING. I APPRECIATE THAT APD IS TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY FOR ALL THE REASONS BEYOND JUST THE ANIMAL WELFARE BUT FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR THAT. IF I CAN HELP WITH THAT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I SUPPORT THAT 100%. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF BEFORE HE HAS TO GO? SEEING NONE. THANKS FOR MAKING TIME, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: JUST AS HE'S WALKING AWAY. I WANT TO COMMEND HIM FOR ALL THE WORK WITH THE RECENT SHOOTINGS WITH THE ELECTED OFFICIALS. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THAT WAS A SCARY ENDEAVOR. AS YOU ALL KNOW. I'VE TALKED AND CALLED 911 IN TERMS OF GUNSHOTS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD FREQUENTLY. BUT TO HAVE SOMEBODY SHOOT DIRECTLY AT YOUR HOUSE IS ANOTHER THING. AND THERE'S SENATOR LOPEZ'S DAUGHTER. IT'S VERY FRIGHTENING. I WANT TO COMMEND YOU AND YOUR OFFICERS FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT. >> IF I CAN MAKE A STATEMENT. WE'RE ASKING FOR A PUBLIC OFFICIALS TO GIVE US HOME ADDRESSES. I KNOW SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY BE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. IT'S NOT PREFERENTIAL IT'S FOR US TO SEE IF THERE'S A TREND OCCURRING AND MOVE QUICKLY ON THESE CASES. I HOPE YOU CAN TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. THIS IS MY REQUEST. WE HAVE REASONS TO DO IT. I THINK IT WILL HELP US DEVELOP TRENDS FASTER. AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN FLAG THAT SO WE DON'T SEE IT OCCURRING AND PUT THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE TOGETHER. THIS IS ALL THE WORK OF THE DETECTIVES. THERE WERE AT LEAST COUNTLESS -- AND WORKED HARD TO GET THE RESULTS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MA'AM FOR BRINGING THAT UP. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO NORMAL ORDER. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION FOR ANOTHER DEPARTMENT AND WOEL -- WE'LL GO TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I HAD A QUESTION FOR DMD AROUND VISION ZERO. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. I JUST HAVE TWO QUICK QUESTIONS. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AND CONSTITUENTS REACHING OUT ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'VE RAISED FOR VISION ZERO THROUGH THE SPEED CAMERA. CAN YOU TELL US HOW MUCH HAS BEEN RAISED FOR VISION ZERO THROUGH THE ALLOCATION THAT CITY COUNCIL MADE OF ALL THE FUNDS FROM THOSE SPEED CAMERAS GOING TO VISION ZERO? >> OF COURSE. MR. PRESIDENT, VICE-PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, TO DATE THE AUTOMATED CITY ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM, THE PORTION ALLOCATED FOR THE ZERO PROGRAM IS $269,000. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. CAN YOU GIVE US A RUNDOWN OF HOW THE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE USED? I ASSUME WE'RE GETTING MORE AND RAISING THE RATES. WHAT WILL THAT MONEY BE USED FOR? >> GREAT QUESTION. MR. PRESIDENT, VICE-PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, OUR TEAM HIGHERED A CONSULANT THAT WE CALL A YEAR IN REVIEW AND PRIORITIZATION STRATEGY. AND THAT IS LOOKING AT LESSONS LEARNED. WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED. WHAT IS WORKING. WHAT CAN WE REPLICATE. AND IT'S GOING TO PRIORITIZE ALL OF THE ACTION ITEMS WITHIN THE ACTION PLAN. AND THE SECOND PHASE IS PRIORITIZING OUR HIGH, FATAL AND INJURY CORRIDORS. THAT'S TAKING FIVE YEARS OF CRASH DATA TO IDENTIFY WHERE REOCCURRING TRASHES ARE HAPPENING AND WE CAN PRIORITIZE THE WORST FIRST. A CONCERN TOGETHER IS THE FIRST PHASE OF ACTION PLAN WILL BE COMPLETE IN APRIL. AND PRIORITIZING THE HIGH FATAL INJURY CORRIDORS WILL BE DONE IN MAY. AND THE SECOND PART OF THE EFFORT IS DOING WORKSHOPS WITH JAERNS TO IDENTIFY LOW COST, HIGH IMPACT MEASURES TO DEPLOY WHEN WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS. AND ALSO IDENTIFY LONGER TERM CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT WILL TAKE ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. THE FUNDS WE'VE RAISED SO FAR AND THE FUNDS WE KNOW ARE COMING IN ARE BEING USED FOR THE CONSULTANTS AND PLANNING. THERE ARE ACTUALLY NO VISION ZERO PROJECTS BEING IMPLEMENTED AT THIS TIME? >> KURNT ? >> WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANY OF THE AUTOMATED SPEED ENFORCEMENT FUNDS. WE'VE USED OTHER FEDERAL FUNDS TO DO THIS PRIORITIZATION EFFORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, IS IT STILL -- DO I REMEMBER THAT WITH THE VISION ZERO FUNDING -- NOT THE VISION FUNDING, BUT THE MOBILE SPEED ENFORCEMENT WITH ANY OF THE CITATIONS PAID, A LARGE CHUNK OF THE PERCENTAGE GOES TO THE STATE DUE TO THE REGULATIONS. DO I REMEMBER THAT CORRECTLY? >> YES, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THAT'S CORRECT. AND THAT'S STATE STATUTE. WE PAY OUR BILLS AND OUR STAFF COST AND FOR THE SPEED ENFORCEMENT AND WHATEVER MONEY IS LEFT WE PAY THE STATE. HALF GOES TO THE STATE AND THE OTHER HALF GOES TO VISION ZERO. >>COUN. BASSAN: I DON'T REMEMBER ANTICIPATING US TO BE ABLE TO FUND THE VISION ZERO PROJECT WITH THE MOBILE SPEED ENFORCEMENT CITATION IN PARTICULAR. IT WASN'T GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY AT THAT POINT WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING IT. I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE FOR FUTURE CONVERSATION. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN HAD A COMMENT AND WE'RE GOING TO GO TO YOUR QUESTION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WE'VE PASSED THAT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS WHERE ALL THE FUNDS THAT WERE STAYING WITHIN THE CITY GO TO VISION ZERO. MY IMPRESSION WAS PROJECTS. AND AT THE TIME WHEN I ASKED HOW MUCH IT WAS GOING TO BE I WAS TOLD IT WOULD BE IN THE MILLIONS. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. I JUST WANTED TO SHAKE SURE WE'RE USING IT FOR SOMETHING. IF WE HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY COMING IN WE SHOULD IMPLEMENT PROJECTS WHENEVER POSSIBLE. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN. QUESTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WANT TO PREFACE THIS BY I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH ADMINISTRATION TODAY BUT I FEEL RELEVANT TO ASK THE QUESTIONS. AFTER HAVING MULTIPLE IGR MEETINGS, INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE, IT WAS DECIDED AFTER SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS THAT ALL NINE COUNCILORS AND THE MAYOR SHOULD ALL AGREE ON A PROJECT, IF IT WAS TO BE CONSIDERED A CITY-WIDE PRIORITY. THERE'S A DOCUMENT THAT CAME OUT TO US ABOUT SATURDAY NIGHT ABOUT 8 P.M. FROM THE ADMINISTRATION THAT LISTS THE LEGISLATIVE FUNDING PRIORITIES AND IN THERE IT HAS THE MAYOR'S PRIORITY AND CITY'S PRIORITIES AND ALL OF THE FOLLOWING PAGES BEHIND IT. I WANT TO ASK BECAUSE IN DISTRICT FOUR THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED ON THERE THAT WOF -- ONE OF WHICH I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF MUCH LESS THE PRIORITY. I KNOW THE ANSWER NOW, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOLKS SEEING THIS NOW I WANT IT TO BE CLARIFIED. WHAT IS THE ALAMEDA BOULEVARD TRAIL THAT IS REQUESTING $18 MILLION AND LISTED AS A DISTRICT FOUR PROJECT? >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. RAEL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MR. PADILLA IS HERE WHO IS HELPING WITH THE CAPITAL OUTLAY PROCESS. COUNCILOR BASSAN, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, WE HAD A CONVERSATION EARLIER, AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT CONVERSATION. JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS TYPO ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM. THAT ITEM IS ACTUALLY IN DISTRICT TWO. COUNCILOR BENTON'S DISTRICT. IT REALLY IS THE ALAMEDA TRAIL THAT GOES ALONG ALAMEDA DRAIN AND IT CONNECTS INTO THE AREA BY I-40 AND WHERE THE RANGE CAFE IS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. IT GOT INADVERTENTLY LOGGED IN AS A DISTRICT PROJECT IN YOUR DISTRICT. IT WAS OUR ERROR. WE'LL CHANGE IT TO DISTRICT TWO. MOST OF THE PROJECT IS IN THE COUNTY OF BERNALILLO COUNTY. IN MONTANO AND THAT AREA IT BECOMES THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE'S PROJECT. THERE'S DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING ALONG THOSE AREAS. AND THERE'S A DESIRE TO UPGRADE THAT TRAIL SO THAT AS A DEVELOPMENT OCCURS THE TRAIL IS IN PLACE. AGAIN, IT WAS INADVERTENTLY PUT IN YOUR DISTRICT. WE APOLOGIZE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU FOR THAT. I KNOW IT WAS DISCUSSED. IT'S HARD WHEN WE'RE CALLING IT A PRIORITY AND I'VE NEVER HEARD OF IT. TO SEE IT ON A LIST TAT THE CITY IS ADVOCATING FOR $18 MILLION. WHICH HAPPENS TO BE THE SAME FOR SOMETHING IN MY COMMUNITY THAT I'M TRULY PRIORITIZING. THERE'S TWO OTHER PROJECTS LEFT OFF THE LIST. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ADDED BACK INTO THAT LIST. I WANT TO BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION THAT THERE'S SOME PROJECTS APPROVED IN THE RESOLUTION, FULLY APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE COUNCIL AND SIGNED BY THE MAYOR NOT LISTED IN THE DOCUMENT AS A CITY-WIDE PRIORITY. I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT A CITYWIDE PRIORITY, ALL TEN OF US SHOULD APPROVE IT. IF ONE OF US DOESN'T AGREE, THAT SHOULD BECOME AN INDIVIDUAL PRIORITY. NOT SOMETHING THAT'S COLLECTIVELY LUMPED TOGETHER. THERE'S THINGS THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH, AND I'M SURE THERE'S THINGS OTHER COUNCILORS DON'T AGREE WITH. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T LUBE FOR THEM. IT MEANS WE SHOULD ACCURATELY HAVE THEM. ONE OTHER THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS CAN YOU PLEASE ALABORATE ON THE REQUEST FOR $15 MILLION FOR REZ DRT HILLS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, LET ME HAVE OUR FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR COME AND VISIT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS PROJECT. SHE'S COMING DOWN, AND I'LL TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. THIS IS A FACILITY THAT WAS A STATE FACILITY THAT WAS OPERATED BY THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO THROUGH A CONTRACTOR. IT IS A FACILITY THAT HAS SOME OF THE COUNCILORS MAY HAVE TOURED IT, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GOT A CHANCE TO SEE IT. IT'S A FACILITY THAT HAS A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE. AT FIRST GLANCE IT WOULD APPEAR TO US THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO REUTILIZE SOME OF THE BUILDINGS. AND MAYBE BRING THEM BACK INTO SOME WORK, IF YOU WILL, IN THE AREA OF HOUSING. BUT LET ME HAVE MS. PIERCE TALK ABOUT THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO THE MAYOR AND OUR INTEREST IN AT LEAST LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT THE LEGISLATURE IS LOOKING AT A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY TO PROVIDE SERVICES. >>COUN. DAVIS: DIRECTOR. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, SO WE WERE ASKED TO EVALUATE AND LOOK AT DESERT HILLS WHICH IS A FACILITY AT SEQUOIA AND COORS. THE CURRENT ASKING PRICE IS SOMETHING LIKE $15 MILLION. IN OUR EVALUATION, IT'S GOT A GREAT CAMPUS. IT'S GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT BUILDINGS. SOME OF THE BUILDINGS NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE LOVE THAN OTHERS. WE COULD SEE THERE ARE SOME POTENTIAL USE FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS. I KNOW TWO COUNCILORS, AND I THINK COUNCILOR BASSAN WERE IN THE PROCESS OF SCHEDULING TO LOOK AT THAT FOR THE POTENTIAL FOR THE YOUTH SHELTER. WE KNOW IF YOU HAVE AN EXISTING FACILITY THAT COULD WORK THEN THAT MEETS THE GAP SOONER. WE ALSO KNOW THAT HOUSING IS IMPORTANT AND ALSO SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE MEDICAL, SOBER LIVING, OR HOUSING NAVIGATION OR A FAMILY SHELTER. ULTIMATELY, WE THINK THAT IT WOULD BE BEST TO BE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE STATE OR THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY, WE HAVE A LOT OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH GAPS. I KNOW ALL OF US KNOW THAT. THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE COUNTY TAKES THE LEAD. WE HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN REALLY SEEING THAT BUILT OUT. I THINK THAT IS IN THERE AS POTENTIAL, IT COULD BE PARTNERS WITH THE COUNTY OR THE STATE TO REALLY COLLECTIVELY USE IT. I DON'T KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS ALONE HAS THE NEED FOR ALL OF THE BUILDINGS BUT THERE'S POTENTIAL THERE TO USE IT IN THE COMMUNITY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. DIRECTOR, SO WHEN YOU SAY THEY HAVE A -- I HAVE A COUPLE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE ASKING FOR A PARTNERSHIP TO SEE IF THE STATE WIDE CONSIDER A PARTNERSHIP, IS OUR METHOD OF CONSIDERING A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE STATE TO ASK THEM FOR $15 MILLION IN ADVANCE? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I THINK THAT'S ONE WAY TO HAVE IT ON THE DOCKET FOR THAT POTENTIAL. IF THEY'RE WILLING TO GET WITH US. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR, THIS IS THE SAME FACILITY THAT HAD SIGNIFICANT LITIGATION ABOUT CHILD ABUSE AND VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANTLY DETRIMENTAL ABUSE? AND MANY OTHER WORDS THAT I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY THAT IT WAS SHUT DOWN FOR THOSE PURPOSES AND THERE'S STILL PENDING LITIGATION ABOUT IT? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT PENDING LITIGATION. I KNOW THAT FACILITY WAS CLOSED DOWN BECAUSE THEY DID HAVE PROBLEMS AND THERE WAS PROBLEMS IN THE TREATMENT OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY HAD THERE. IT HAD SOME HISTORY IN THE COMMUNITY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE WERE YOUTH. I HESITATE TO BE EXCITED ABOUT CONSIDERING PUTTING YOUTH THERE AGAIN. FOR THE RECORD. ALSO, I THINK THAT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET A SCHEDULE TO GO AND SEE THAT, I WASN'T -- SOMEHOW SOMETHING GOT DROPPED AND I WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE INVITATION TO TOUR IT. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GET THAT SCHEDULED. I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE HEARD BACK BEFORE TONIGHT. FINALLY. IF WE CAN GET THAT ON THE BOOKS I'D BE GRATEFUL TO SEE IT. MR. PRESIDENT, MR. RAEL, WAS AN APPRAISAL SOUGHT OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO BE ASKING FOR THE ASKING PRICE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE LITERALLY WITHIN THE LAST MONTH AND A HALF STARTED EXPLORING THE OPTIONS OF LOOKING AT THE BUILDING. SO WE HAVE ASKED OUR REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AND SEE IF WE CAN GET AN APPRAISAL. THE ASKING PRICE WHEN WE TOURED THE FACILITY WITH THE BROKERS, THEY GAVE US THIS NUMBER AS THE POTENTIALLY THE ASKING PRICE. OBVIOUSLY, WE WON'T PAY ANYMORE THAN WHAT A REQUIRED UNDER THE STATE LAW AS IT RELATES TO PROCUREMENT OF PROPERTY. WE DON'T BELIEVE IT'S AT THE HIGH LEVEL. WE BELIEVE THERE'S PROBABLY A LOWER PRICE. AND WEKNOW IF WE GET ADDITIONAL FUNDS WE CAN DEVOTE THESE FUNDS TO IMPROVEMENTS AT THE SITE IF WE CHOOSE TO DO THAT. IT WAS AN INITIATIVE THAT WE THOUGHT WAS AT LEAST EXPLORING WITH THE STATE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. I GUESS MY QUESTION MIGHT BE FOR MR. MELENDREZ, IF THE STATE GIVES FUNDING, AND THEY GIVE US $15 MILLION OF FUNDING FOR DESERT HILLS WHAT HAPPENS IF THE COUNCIL DOESN'T APPROVE IT? DOES IT HAVE TO BE COMING TO COUNCIL TO BE APROUFBED? >> THE CITY'S PROPERTY ORDINANCE WOULD REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL OF AN ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY. THERE'S A FEW WAYS THE COUNCIL CAN DO THAT. APPROPRIATION FOR ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY. OR AN APPROVAL OF ACTUAL CONTRACT. THE COUNCIL HAS DISCRETION ON HOW TO TREAT THUPROVAL. INCLUDING DO NOTHING WITH IT, APPROVE IT OR DECLINE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. I SEE THERE'S PROBABLY A FOLLOW UP REGARDING THIS TOPIC. I RESPECT THAT. I JUST WANT TO SAY, I THINK IT SEEMS PREMATURE TO ASK OUR STATE LEGISLATURE AS A CITY PRIORITY FOR $15 MILLION FOR SOMETHING I HAVEN'T SEEN. I DON'T KNOW IF THE REST OF THE COUNCIL HAS HEARD ABOUT IT. IT WAS NEVER DISCUSSED. IT WAS SOMETHING OF INTEREST PER SE. IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE THE ADMINISTRATION IS PLANNING ON PURCHASING A PROPERTY WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE. OR AT LEAST PRIORITIZING IT OUT OUR APPROVAL. IT'S IRRITATING. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU FOR THAT. WE HAVE COUNCILOR GROUT ON THIS TOPIC. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP A LITTLE BIT. I WENT ON THAT TOUR WITH COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN THE OTHER DAY. THE REALTOR MENTIONED SHE WOULD POSSIBLY TAKE $10 MILLION. WHAT'S CONCERNING TO ME IS WE WERE THERE ON FRIDAY AND THERE'S NO MENTION THIS WAS GOING TO BE IN THE CITY-WIDE PROPOSAL TO THE LEGISLATURE. WE HAD NO CLUE. I'M WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED THERE TOO. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, OBVIOUSLY THE MAYOR ASKED TO PUT THIS ON THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AS A POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP WITH THE STATE. I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THE COUNCILORS HAVE THE RIGHT TO PUT REQUESTS FOR THEIR DISTRICTS IN THE LEGISLATIVE REQUEST AND SO DOES THE MAYOR. SO THE MAYOR THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST EXPLORE THE OPTION. WE'RE NOT SURE THAT THE LEGISLATURE WILL APPROVE THIS. I WOULD ALSO JUST MENTION THAT WE ALL HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOUSING AS WELL AS AN ISSUE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND IF WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE A PROCUREMENT OF SOME LEVEL OF THE LAND, IT COULD BECOME A HOUSING PROJECT OF SORTS. I WOULD JUST ECHO THAT THIS WAS A MAYOR'S PRIORITY AS HE FELT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. >>COUN. GROUT: ONE FOLLOW UP TO THAT ALSO, DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS OF POSSIBLY MAKING THIS THE NEW WEC? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT NO. THAT'S NOT BEEN PART OF THE CONVERSATION. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN ON THIS TOPIC AND GO BACK TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I GUESS I JUST WANT TO VOICE MY CONCERN ABOUT THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO THE LEGISLATORS. I'VE BEEN ON AGR FOR THE PAST YEARS. WE'VE STARTED MONTHLY TO WORK TOGETHER TO DEVELOP LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I THOUGHT WE WERE ALL DOING THAT IN GOOD FAITH. AND I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE THE DOCUMENT THAT WENT OUT TO LEGISLATORS HAS THE MAYOR'S PRIORITIES AND HE IS WELCOMED TO HAVE THOSE. BUT THERE'S A LARGE SECTION AT THE END OF THIS BOOK THAT SAYS CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE PRIORITIES. AND THEY ARE NOT CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE PRIORITIES. WE HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT PASSED THIS COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY THAT SAYS WHAT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE'S LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES ARE. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WAS NOT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WITH THIS LIST AT CLEARLY AT THE TOP OF EVERY PAGE SAYS CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE PRIORITY FOR 2023 SESSION. FOR DISTRICT SEVEN, THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS I'VE NOT HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, DID NOT ANY THEY'RE CAPITAL OUT LAY REQUESTS AND NOT HEARD ABOUT WHEN THEY CALLED ME AND ASKED ABOUT IT. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID WITH OUR MONTHLY IGR MEETINGS. IT SHOWS A BAD FAITH BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL OF THE MONTHLY MEETINGS WE HAVE BEEN REALLY, REALLY WORKING HARD TO DEVELOP SHARED PRIORITIES FOR. WHILE IT SOUNDS LIKE COUNCILOR BASSAN WAS SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING ONE CHANGE, ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOOD A CHANGE IS GOING TO DO BECAUSE IT'S BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO ALL THE LEGISLATORS, I ASK ONE CHANGE. THE EAST AND WEST SIDE ANIMAL SHELTERS WERE CLEARLY LABELLED AS A CITY WIDE PRIORITY IN OUR JOINT LEGISLATION BECAUSE THOSE SHELTERS SERVE THE ENTIRE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND ALL THE HOMELESS ANIMALS IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND IT'S NOT LISTED AS SUCH, BURIED IN PAGE 21 OF THIS DOCUMENT. IT SAYS IT'S IN COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE AND SEVEN. I'M THE CITY COUNCILLOR FOR DISTRICT SEVEN AND THERE'S NOT ACTUALLY AN ANIMAL SHELTER IN MY DISTRICT. HOWEVER IT'S A PRIORITY FOR ME AND IT SHOULD BE FOR THE CITY TO GET THOSE FUNDS TO UPDATE THAT. WHILE WE'RE GOING BACK AND CHANGING SOMETHING THAT NO ONE WILL SEE. I APPRECIATE THE CHANGE ON THAT. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MY QUESTION IS INVOLVING THE $15 MILLION TO ACQUIRE DESERT HILLS. DESERT HILLS IS ACTUALLY IN MY DISTRICT. ON SEQUIA ACROSS FROM WEST MESA LITTLE LEAGUE. I DON'T WANT THAT BUILDING TO BECOME AN ISSUE WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA AND THE LITTLE LEAGUE THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR WHO KNOWS HOW MANY YEARS. I WANT THAT THING NOT TO BE PURCHASED BY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND TURNED INTO WHATEVER FACILITY THE ADMINISTRATION SEES FIT TO DEPOSIT IT. I THINK WE SHOULD FIND A BETTER USE FOR THAT FACILITY. RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A DISTRUST OF THE ADMINISTRATION FROM CITY COUNCIL. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO FIX ASAP. I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR BASSAN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF AND WE NEED TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AS A CITY COUNCIL. AND IT'S QUITE FRANKLY A SLAP IN OUR FACE. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. RAEL, LET ME ASK, I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION KNOWS THAT THE COUNCIL'S FRUSTRATED AND UPSET WITH THE PROCESS. AND THE PRESENTATION HAS BEEN IN YEARS PAST WITH THE SAME PROCESS. WHAT'S THE ADMINISTRATION'S PLAN TO ADDRESS THIS WITH LEGISLATORS AND BEFORE ALL OF US GO TO SANTA FE GO TO MAKE CASE FOR OUR PROJECTS. THERE'S STUFF THAT WE PASSED THAT'S NOT ON THE LIST. AND SO ARE THE OTHER ISSUES LIKE THIS IS NOT A PROCESS THAT WAS DESIGNED. HOW IS THE ADMINISTRATION GOING TO RECTIFY THIS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I'D -- I SPOKE TO COUNCILOR BASSAN EARLIER TODAY, WE ARE HAPPY TO MAKE THE CHANGES THAT INCLUDE THE TWO PROJECTS LEFT OUT. MR. PADILLA IS WORKING ON A NEW DOCUMENT. IT'S DISTRIBUTED TO THE LEGISLATORS WITH THE INFORMATION REQUESTED. SOME OF THESE WERE ERRORS THAT WE MADE ON OUR PART. I WOULD ALSO TELL ALL THE COUNCILORS, AND MR. PADILLA CAN GIVE YOU THE DETAILS. WE SENT INFORMATION TO YOUR STAFF ASKING FOR THE PROJECTS. THIS IS THE INFORMATION, ACCORDING TO WHAT MR. PADILLA RECEIVED WAS INCLUDED IN THE BOOKLET. I GET THAT MAYBE NOT ALL THE COUNCIL STAFF KNEW ALL OF THE DETAILS. WE DID ATTEMPT TO SET UP A PROCESS TO GET ALL OF THE PROJECTS INCLUDED. THERE ARE CLOSE TO 60 PROJECTS IN THERE. AS IT RELATES TO THE BOOKS, THESE ARE THE BOOKS WE DID BEFORE. 85 PAGES. THE IGR SAID LET'S NOT DO A BOOK. SO, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CHARACTERIZE THIS AS A PAMPLET BUT WE TRIED TO GET TO A SMALLER BOOK. BECAUSE WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THAT THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO GET THE INFORMATION TO LEGISLATORS. I AM HAPPY TO GO BACK AND GET THE CHANGES AND GET THE DOCUMENT BACK TO LEGISLATORS THAT IS MORE REFLECTF OF THE ISSUES AND ERRORS WE MADE IN THE PROCESS AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO GET THAT DONE. MR. PADILLA IS HERE. HE CAN TELL YOU WHAT HE'S DONE UP TO THIS POINT AS IT RELATES TO THE ISSUE THAT COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN RAISED ABOUT THE SHELTERS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PADILLA. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. FIRST I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE HISTORY OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE CAPITAL OUT LAY PROCESS. IN 2020 THE CITY RECEIVED $28 MILLION FOR CITY PROJECTS. AND RECEIVED $3.1 MILLION IN NON-PROFIT MONEY THAT HELPS THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR A TOTAL OF $30.9 MILLION. IN 2021 THAT INCREASED TO $45 MILLION. LAST YEAR WE RECEIVED $28 MILLION -- $38 MILLION, AND $9.6 MILLION FOR A TOTAL OF $57.6 MILLION. [ INAUDIBLE ]. WHAT'S HAPPENED THE LAST TWO YEARS IS THE LEGISLATORS, THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION CHANGED THE PROCESS. THEY CHANGED IT AGAIN THIS YEAR AND WE HAVE FOUR NEW COUNCILORS WHEN YOU HAVE CHANGE LIKE THAT YOU HAVE TO ADAPT. WE'RE TRYING TO ADAPT THE NEW COUNCILORS. AND INNEW PROCESSES WITH THE STATE. THAT'S A LEARNING PROCESS. AND IT'S GOOD TO HAR FROM THE COUNCILORS. WE WOULDN'T HAVE RECEIVED THE MONEY WITHOUT YOUR ADVOCACY AND THE HELP OF COUNCIL STAFF. COUNCIL STAFF AND ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF HAVE HELPED US GET THE RESIDENTS OF ALBUQUERQUE GET [ INAUDIBLE ]. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS THERE'S ADDITIONAL THINGS WE'RE GOING TO BE PRODUCING FOR THE LEGISLATORS. THE FIRST IS TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON EXISTING CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATED. THAT DOCUMENT WILL SHOW WHICH PROJECTS HAVE RECEIVED GRANT FUNDS. WHEN WE GET MONEY FROM THE LEGISLATURE. THEN WE HAVE TO RECEIVE THE GRANT. ONCE YOU RECEIVE THE GRANT YOU HAVE TO GIVE AN -- FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE. AFTER RECEIVING THAT YOU CAN START SPENDING MONEY. AND WE GET MONEY REIMBURSED BY THE STATE. THE DOCUMENT THAT IS GOING TO GO TO THE STATE LEGISLATORS IS GOING TO SHOW ALL THE APPROPRIATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED. WHICH WE RECEIVED GRANTS FROM AND WHICH ONES WE GOT TO SPEND OUT THE MONEY. IN ADDITION, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS BREAK DOWN ALL OF THE REQUESTS THIS YEAR AND IT'S GOING TO BREAK IT DOWN BY LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT. WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THE CITY WIDE PROJECTS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ANIMAL SHELTER THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THERE. THAT'S PART OF EVERY LEGISLATIVE DOCUMENT. EVERY LEGISLATOR IS GOING TO RECEIVE THE ANIMAL SHELTER. AND IT'S GOING TO BREAK DOWN THE PROJECTS THAT ARE INDIVIDUALLY LISTED IN EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT. WHAT I ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT IS IN ADDITION TO THAT SEPARATE OUT WHICH ARE THE COUNCILORS PRIORITIES. SO THE LEGISLATORS ANY WHICH PRIORITIES THAT THE COUNCILORS WANT AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL PRIORITIES THAT THE MAYOR WANTED. SO IT'S UNDERSTATED EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING SO THEY KNOW WHAT IS XG -- COMING FROM THE COUNCILORS AND WHAT IS CITY WIDE AND WHAT IS REQUESTS FROM THE MAYOR. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO MOVING FORWARD. >>COUN. DAVIS: GOING FORWARD, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF EACH OTHER. LET'S MAKE SURE THE IGR GETS A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE AND NOT A BLIND WEEKEND EMAIL. THAT WOULD HELP TREMENDOUSLY BE SURE WE'RE BACK ON TRACK. WE HAVE COUNCILOR PEÑA ON THIS TOPIC AND GO BACK TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WAS GOING TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS. HEARING YOU NOW, MR. PADILLA, I AGREE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES. I THINK I'VE BEEN ON IGR THE LONGEST, BUT I THINK THROUGH THIS PROCESS WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP -- WE'RE TRYING NOT TO HINDER ANYBODY'S ABILITY TO ASK FOR REQUESTS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND THE MAYOR AND HIS PREROGATIVE TO ASK FOR WHATEVER HE WANTS. I THINK MOVING FORWARD, AND I THINK COUNCILOR DAVIS IS ALLUDE TO THIS, WE REALLY NEED TO PUT FORWARD THE CITYWIDE PRIORITIES. I THINK -- THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EFFORT TO DEVELOPING THIS AND WORKING TOGETHER. WE'RE ASKING CITY COUNCILLORS TO COME UP WITH THREE TOP PRIORITIES WHEN WE HAVE 20 IN OUR DISTRICTS. WE DO THAT. AND WE OURSELVES HAVE HAD LEGISLATORS SAY HOW COME THIS ISN'T IN OUR TOP PRIORITIES FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO ADD SO MANY PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE SEAMLESS IN TERMS OF WE DO WANT THESE OTHER 20 BUT THESE ARE THE TOP THREE THAT WE THINK WE CAN GET FUNDED IN A TIMELY MANNER. I THINK MOVING FORWARD ON IGR AND THANKS FOR KEEPING ME ON IGR, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. MOVING FORWARD WE SHOULD HAVE MAYBE A BOOKLET ABOUT CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE PRIORITIES THAT WAS VOTED ON. AND MAYBE WE ALL PUT IN. BECAUSE I PUT IN MY OWN LIST OF ALL MY OTHER 20 PROJECTS AND THE MAYOR SAYS, I SUPPORT THE CITYWIDE PRIORITIES BUT THESE ARE ALSO MY PRIORITIES. AND MAYBE THAT WILL HELP TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE HICCUPS WE'RE HAVING. WE DON'T WANT TO HURT ANY OPPORTUNITY TO GET FUNDING FOR OUR DISTRICTS. AND MY EXAMPLE WOULD BE IS THAT THERE'S THIS OPPORTUNITY WITH THE UNSER MUSEUM. IT CAME AFTER WE VOTED ON THIS LEGISLATION. IT'S BECOME A PRIORITY OF MINE. BUT IT'S NOT ON THE CITYWIDE PRIORITY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY AND ABILITY TO DO THAT. MAYBE WE'LL WORK ON COMMUNICATION AND I KNOW YOU WERE ABSENT FOR A LITTLE WHILE. I DON'T THINK YOU WERE GOING TO IGR. AND I THINK YOU HAD SOME OF THE MOST KNOWLEDGE. I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE BETTER COMMUNICATION. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. COUNCILOR BASSAN, YOU HAVE ANOTHER THING. >>COUN. BASSAN: I DO. JUST ONE MORE SENTENCE ON THIS. I JUST A LOGICAL STARTING POINT FOR NEXT YEAR'S BOOK, PAMPLET, OR DOCUMENT. HAVE THE MAYOR'S PRIORITIES IN FRONT, AND THE COUNCIL APPROVED AND THE MAYOR'S SIGNED RESOLUTION IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT AS A CITY AGREED UPON RESOLUTION. NOT IN THE BACK AS AN AFTER THOUGHT. MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ HAD SAID THERE'S SEEMING TO BE DISHONESTY. I THINK I'M GETTING TO MY POINT THAT I AGREE AT THIS POINT. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SWALLOWING SOME OF THE STUFF. I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN REFERRED AND BUSSED TO THE GIBSON HEALTH HUB FOR EMERGENCY WINTER SHELTER. WHY CAN'T THEY BE BUSSED TO THE WEC UNTIL THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PLAN IS COMPLETED? AND LET ME PREFACE THIS. I HAVEN'T READ THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT FOR THE GIBSON HEALTH HUB. I'M HOPING THAT COUNCILOR DAVIS HANDLED THAT SINCE IT'S IN HIS DISTRICT. I HAVEN'T DISSECTED ALL OF THAT. PACED OFF OF WHAT YOU SAID AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING THERE NEEDS TO BE LIGHTING AND SECURITY AT THE VERY LEAST TO FULFILL OUR COMMITMENT OF WHAT WAS AGREED UPON. UNTIL THAT'S DONE, WHY ARE WE USING GIBSON FOR EMERGENCY MELTER, WHY CAN'T THEY BE REFERRED AND BUSSED TO THE WEC? >> LET ME HAVE MS. PIERCE ADDRESS THE QUESTION. >>COUN. DAVIS: DIRECTOR, WELCOME BACK. YOU HAVE TO SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT. THEY CAN HEAR US, NOT YOU. >> OKAY, COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED -- THREE OF THE SIX SIGNATORYES SIGNED THAT IN NOVEMBER. WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE'VE CONTINUED TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON IMPROVEMENT. SECURITY, AS I MENTIONED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, IS IN PLACE 24-7 SINCE WE'VE PURCHASED THAT FACILITY LAST YEAR. AND LIGHTING IS BEING ADDRESSED. THERE IS -- THERE WERE CONCERNS, ABOUT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. THERE'S A SIGNAL AND OTHER LIGHTING. LIGHTING ITSELF IS A SPECIFIC ITEM NOT IN THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT. THERE'S ONGOING DISCUSSIONS. AS WE GO WE FULFILLED THE QUARTER MILE RADIUS ON ENCAMPMENT SPACE. WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING NEXT WEEK. AND JUST TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE'RE CONCERNED THAT EVERYBODY IS ABOUT PEOPLE AND ENCAMPMENTS ON THE STREET WHILE IT'S COLD. WHILE WE HAVE ROOM AT THE WEC, NOT EVERYBODY WILL GO TO THE WEC. SOME ENCAMPMENTS ARE BEING TAKEN VIA BUS DIRECTLY TO THE BEDS TO KEEP THEM FROM PARISHING IN THE COLD. THIS WEEKEND WE ANTICIPATE AS WE SEE THE DIP IN THE TEMPERATURE WE WILL BE OPENING THE WARMING STATIONS WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH VOLUNTEERS WITH CITY STAFF AND THIS WILL BE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO TO THE WEC IF THEY CHOOSE, SOME PEOPLE CHOOSE TO GO BACK ON THE STREET OR HOUSED AT THE DPAET -- GATEWAY. >>COUN. BASSAN: WOULD YOU SAY THE WE'VE FULFILLED THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT IN ORDER TO START HOUSING ANYBODY? WHETHER IT'S EMERGENCY OR NOT? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR BASSAN YES. PART OF WHAT THAT GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT SAYS IS WE WANT TO HAVE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT BROAD NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS. WHEN WE PURCHASE THAT FACILITY AND HAVE HAD LOTS OF NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT THE CITY BUYING THAT AND WHAT ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT ABOUT CRIME AND TRAFFIC. A LOT OF CONCERNS. THAT NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL, WE SEE THAT AS A VEHICLE TO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS ISSUES, BRINGING OTHER DEPARTMENTS, APD AND DMD, IT'S NOT A ONE AND DONE. IT'S AN ONGOING CONVERSATION WITH THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. >>COUN. BASSAN: I THINK THAT'S GREAT. I THINK IT SHOULD BE ONGOING. I'M GLAD THAT'S IN THERE. I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE DOING IT. I KNOW YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT NOT EVERYONE WILL GO TO THE WEC. ONE OF MY NEXT QUESTIONS IS THE LATEST AG'S REPORTS, THE IG PUBLISHED A REPORT REGARDING AN COMPLAINT WITH THE WEC. I'M WONDERING IF BEDBUG AND SHOWER CONDITIONS THAT THE REASON THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO THE WEC. I RECOGNIZE THE SHOWERS ARE IN AREAS NOT BEING USED. THE KITCHEN IS IN AN AREA NOT BEING USED. THE BEDBUGERIZE FUMIGATED. COULD THIS BY WHY PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GO THERE? WHY AREN'T WE TAKING CARE OF THAT? LET'S PRIORITIZE THAT INSTEAD OF BUYING DESERT HILLS. LET'S FIX WHAT WE HAVE. TO AT LEAST WHERE IT'S HABITABLE LIVING CONDITIONS. IS THAT WHY YOU THINK THAT MIGHT BE PART OF WHY PEOPLE PREFER LIVING IN TENTS RATHER THAN GO TO WEC? >> I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS PEOPLE CHOOSE NOT TO GO TO WEC. THE FACILITY IS A 30-YEAR-OLD FACILITY. WHEN WE OPEN THAT FULL-TIME IN 2019, WHICH IT HAD ONLY BEEN PART TIME WE HAD DONE RAGER REPAIRS FOR THE FACILITIES. WE HAD DUP THE H-VAC SYSTEM. WE HAVE REDONE BATHROOMS AND A BOD. WE HAVE ADDED THE MEDICAL CLINIC AND WE'VE ADDED CASE MANAGEMENT. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS AND CHANGES. IN THE OIG REPORT OF WHICH ALL THOSE PIECES HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, THERE WERE PIECES ON THE FIRE HYDRANT, THERE WERE PIECES ABOUT BEDBUGS, THERE'S ROUTINE BEDBUG CONTROL. AND I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE. WE HAVE AN ONGOING MAINTENANCE SYSTEM WITH WORK ORDERS TO ADDRESS AN OLD BUILDING. AND OUR LIST IS ALWAYS LONG ON THE WORK ORDERS. I THINK THE REASON THAT PEOPLE DON'T GO THERE ARE MANY. EVERYTHING FROM IT'S AN OLD JAIL. EVERYTHING FROM IT'S A 30-MINUTE RIDE OUT THERE. AND MY FRIENDS ARE BACK IN TOWN. AND I NEED TO GET BACK INTO TOWN. SOME PEOPLE DON'T FEEL SAFE. WHEN I HEAR THE VOICES, I KNOW WHEN I'M OUT OF MY TENT, I KNOW THOSE ARE MY VOICES. WHEN I'M IN A BIG ROOM OR A DORM AND WE LIKE TO CALL THEM DORMS AND SOMETIMES NOT A POD BECAUSE POD IS OLD JAIL LANGUAGE. BUT WHEN I'M IN A DORM AND I'M NEXT TO A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE AND THERE'S TALKING OF VOICES I CAN'T DISTINGUISH THE VOICES IN MY HEAD OR THE VOICES NEXT TO ME. THE RANGE OF REASONS PEOPLE DON'T GO THERE ARE LONG. WE WANT TO AND DO OUR BEST TO KEEP THE FACILITY THE BEST IT CAN BE. WE HAVE PLANS FOR THE FUTURE. I KNOW COUNCILORS WHEN YOU'VE BEEN THERE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHY DON'T WE HAVE WASHING MACHINES. I THINK COUNCILOR BENTON HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT OVER THE YEARS. WE'VE HAD LIMITATIONS WITH THE WATER AUTHORITY AND HOW THAT DRAINS INTO THE POND. WE HAVE RECENTLY WITH THE WATER AUTHORITY HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NEW WATERLINE GOING IN THERE. WE COULD ACTUALLY GET THE NEW WASHING MACHINES. WE HAVE MONEY TO DO A WARMING KITCHEN. THAT PROCESS SIN OUR FUTURE AND ADDRESS THE ONGOING WORKORDS. I WANT TO SAY -- I'M HERE TO SAY IT'S A PERFECT FACILITY. I THINK WE WORK VERY HARD FOR IT TO BE RESPECTABLE. THERE WAS ABOUT 430 PEOPLE. SOME PEOPLE CHOOSE THAT TO BE THEIR HOME. WE ARE PROVIDING FOOD, WE PROVIDING THE MEDICAL CLINIC AND SERVICES. I ALWAYS THINK WE CAN DO BETTER. AND I THINK WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THINGS ARE GETTING IMPROVED. YOU SAID IT'S A 30-YEAR-OLD BUILDING. AT WHAT POINT IS AN OLD BUILDING AN OLD BUILDING AND WHAT POINT DO WE CALL IT QUITS? IS THERE A PLAN TO SHUT IT DOWN AND DESTROYING IT OR SELLING IT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO SHUT THE FACILITY DOWN. GIVEN THE NUMBER OF FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT NEED THESE SERVICES, WE HAVE MADE THE DETERMINATION THAT WE HAVE TO INCLUDE THE WEC AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING AS PART OF THE CONTINUUM OF SERVICES, IF YOU WILL. JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE THE NEED IS SO GREAT. I THINK AS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FACILITY I WAS LOOKING AT COUNCILOR JONES WHO IS BY TRADE SOMEONE WHO WORKED IN THE FACILITY MANAGEMENT WORLD WHEN SHE WAS IN THE REAL ESTATE WORLD. AT SOME POINT I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT HOW MUCH GOOD MONEY DO WE SPEND AFTER THAT. THE BUILDING IS SO OLD, THERE WERE PODS THAT WERE BUILT BACK WHEN I WAS 12. AND IT WAS AN INTERIM JAIL. AND IT WAS REVIVED TO BECOME A SHELTER, IF YOU WILL. AT SOME POINT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION, THE COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT DO WE WANT TO BUILD A NEW FACILITY AND WILL THAT BE LOCATED. IN THE MEANTIME, WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THE REPAIRS THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE HAVING A SAFE AND CLEAN ENVIRONMENT FOR FOLKS WHO ARE USING THAT FACILITY AND KEEP AN EVALUATION AND HAVE DIALOGUE ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT DO DOWN THE ROAD. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE ARE NO PLANS TO SHUT THE FACILITY DOWN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, MR. RAEL, THANK YOU. I THINK FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO MAINTAIN THE WEC AND UPDATE AND MAKE IT BETTER. UNTIL WE REALIZE IT'S TOO MUCH GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD. I GUESS THE OBVIOUS WHEN GIBSON IS UP AND RUNNING AND WORKING WELL I HOPE WE MAYBE STOP USING THE WEC. I THINK THAT IS THE LOGICAL NEXT STEP. WHILE WE CONTINUE TO FULFILL THE PROMISES TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND US. AND EVERYBODY NOT UTILIZING THAT EITHER. I THINK SPEAKING OF FIFLING PROMISES, I'M GOING TO SWITCH GEARS. UNLESS YOU WANT TO SWITCH GEARS? >>COUN. DAVIS: CAN I ASK A FOLLOW UP WHILE WE'RE ON THIS? AND THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO HELP US ELEVATE AND MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THAT. DIRECTOR, I JUST WANT TO SAY I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SEEING. I'M PROUD TO SEE SERVICES ACQUIRED AND ADDED EVERY DAY. I OBJECT TO THE LANGUAGE OF SAYING WE HAVE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT IN PLACE. IT'S ONLY SIGNED BY THREE OF SIX ORGANIZATIONS. WE ALSO HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T DO IT, OR DON'T FEEL LIKE IT MET THE NEEDS. AND NOT ALL OF THE FOLKS THAT SIGNED DIRECTLY REPRESENT A NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND. LIKE THE COALITION AGREED IN PRINCIPLE, BUT THEY DON'T REPRESENT A NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY REPRESENT AN ORGANIZATION OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE A MAJORITY OF THOSE IMPACTED. I OBJECT TO SAYING WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT. I PREFER TO SEE WE HAVE SOME FOLKS WHO ARE MORE OPTIMISTIC THAN OTHERS. I THINK THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE. I WANT TO ASK, SINCE WE'RE OPENING EMERGENCY HOUSING, HOW MANY BEDS WERE NOT FILLED AT THE WEC LAST WEEK? VERSUS HOW MANY WERE OPEN AT GIBSON. DO WE HAVE SOME AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW IF SOMEONE WANTED TO GO FROM CIVIC PLAZA? >> YOUR QUESTION, I WOULD IMAGINE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. WE'VE BEEN RUNNING BECAUSE IT'S BEEN COLD IN THE 400s. >>COUN. DAVIS: WHAT'S OUR CAPACITY AT THE WEC? >> THE CAPACITY IS 600. THAT MEANS WE'RE USING PODS THAT DON'T HAVE VACUUMS IMMEDIATELY ACCESSIBLE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN FULLY RENOVATED. BUT CAN WE USE THOSE? YES. AS MR. RAEL SAID, THAT FACILITY WE ALWAYS KNOW IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE IN THE CITY COUGHERS WHEN YOU HAVE A BIG EMERGENCY. WE USE BACK DORMS IF NEEDED. IT'S 600. THE EMERGENCY BEDS AT GIBSON, THOSE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULDN'T BE GOING OUT TO THE WEC. IF IT'S GIVEN THE CHOICE. THEY ARE GOING FROM ENCAMPMENT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO THE PICK UP SITES BUT THROUGH OUTREACH FOLKS THAT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT'S THE MECHANISM TO GET INTO THOSE WINTER EMERGENCY BEDS. >>COUN. DAVIS: I APPRECIATE IT. WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE IT. I JUST DON'T THINK GIBSON IS READY. I WANT US TO DO THE RIGHT THING. IF OUR BARRIER, AND COUNCILOR LEWIS MENTIONED THIS, IF THERE'S VACANT BEDS AT THE WEC, OR WE NEED TO UPGRADE FACILITIES, REQUIRING PEOPLE TO GO TO THE PICK UP CENTERS HAS A CAPACITY OF ITS OWN. IF WE'RE DOING OUTREACH THAT SHOULD BE TOWARD THE SYSTEM THAT WORKS, IN MY OPINION. NOT INTO A NEW FACILITY THAT'S NOT READY WITH ALL OF THE SERVICES. THAT'S BEEN MY IMPRESSION FROM THE BEGINNING. I THINK THERE'S A WAY WE CAN DO IT BETTER. AND COUNCILOR LEWIS IS GOING TO FOLLOW AND WE'LL COME BACK. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THOSE THAT ARE AT THE WEC, YOU MENTIONED NOT ALL OF THE ONES THAT GO TO THE GIBSON CENTER WOULD GO TO THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. WOULD THOSE THAT ARE AT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER, ARE THEY CANDIDATES? WOULD THEY GO TO THE GIBSON CENTER? IS THAT THE INTENTION? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THE INTENTION WAS NOT TO RELOCATE PEOPLE FROM THE WEST SIDE -- >>COUN. LEWIS: I REALIZE THAT. WE SAID THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD GO TO THE GIBSON CENTER WOULD NOT NECESSARILY GO TO THE SHELTER. I'M WONDERING IF THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND IF THEY CHOSE TO. MAYBE THAT'S NOT OUR INTENTION TO DO THAT, BUT IF THEY CHOSE TO, WOULD IT BE SUITABLE FOR THEM? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, WOULD THE WEC BE A SUITABLE PLACE FOR SOMEBODY GIVEN IF THEY WANTED TO GO? ABSOLUTELY FOR AN UNHOUSED PERSON. IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: I THINK COUNCILOR DAVIS ALSO ASKED ABOUT THE CAPACITY OF THE GIBSON CENTER. WHAT IS THE CAPACITY OF THE GIBSON CENTER? >> AS I STATED, THE CAPACITY FOR THE WEC IS -- >>COUN. LEWIS: APACITY FOR THE GIBSON CENTER. >> THE CAPACITY FOR THE WINTER BEDS? >>COUN. LEWIS: TO START WITH. WHAT IS PROJECTED TO BE USED FOR. START WITH THE WINTER BEDS AND WHAT WE'RE -- >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, THE CAPACITY FOR THE GIBSON WINTER EMERGENCY BEDS ABOUT 55. AND OUR PLAN WHEN THE GATEWAY, WHICH IS DISTINCT, IS WE WILL OPEN THAT FOR 50 WOMEN AND ANTICIPATED 90-DAY STAY, WE'LL SEE SEVERAL HUNDED OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT THE UNHOUSED CAPACITY AT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. I THINK AT ONE POINT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S USED MORE BECAUSE OF THE WINTER MONTHS. YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S 200 EMPTY OR AVAILABLE UNUSED BEDS. OVER THE SUMMER THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IT WAS CLOSE TO 400 UNUSED DURING THAT TIME. >> CAN YOU KNOWSAL PRESIDENT, BLFNG ? >> IT DOES FLUCTUATE BY THE WEATHER. YES, ROUGHLY 430. CAPACITY OF 600. I WILL ADD WHEN I MENTIONED THE DORMS THAT AREN'T THERE WITH BEDS WE BRING IN EMERGENCY CATS WHEN WE NEED TO. >>COUN. LEWIS: IN THE SHELTERS, THAT'S 30 YEARS OLD. I WOULDN'T -- I GUESS I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S THAT OLD. ALSO, I'M ASSUMING ATRISCO BUILDING, THE DESERT HILLS IS PROBABLY MORE THAN 30 YEARS OLD, ISN'T IT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I DON'T KNOW THE DATE THAT BUILDING WAS BUILT. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M ASSUMING IT IS. THAT'S AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S A BUILDING I IMAGINE WE WOULD FACE WITH SOME OF THE SAME CHALLENGES. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: LET ME MAKE A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT. WE KNOW THAT SOME FOLKS ARE FOLLOWING ALONG AT HOME ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH HEARING OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS PROCESS. YOU CAN HEAR THEM ON ZOOM OR ON GOVTV16 PRETTY WELL. WE'RE GOING TO DO MICROPHONE RESETS WHEN THE COUNCIL TAKES A BREAK. AND WE'LL COME BACK AND DO PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THAT BREAK. FOR THOSE FOLLOWING AT HOME, IF YOU'RE HAVING A HARD TIME YOU CAN FIND US ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S YOU TUBE PAGE AND ON GOVTV16. MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU CAN HEAR US BETTER THERE. >>COUN. BASSAN: JUST TO FINISH UP WITH THAT, IF WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT AN EMERGENCY AND THE WEC IS THERE FOR EMERGENCIES AND WE HAVE ROOMS FOR COTS, AND URGE THE ADMINISTRATION AND BE HONEST AND FULFILL THEIR PROMISE TO THE COMMUNITY NEAR THE GATEWAY CENTER OR THE GIBSON HEALTH HUB OR WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING IT TODAY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE FULFILL THE PROMISE TO THE COMMUNITY. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO START SAYING IT'S FOR EMERGENCIES, LET'S USE THE EMERGENCY SHELTER THAT ALREADY EXISTS WITHOUT DOING A LOOPHOLE. THAT IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, AT THIS POINT. IN MY OPINION. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE FULFILL OUR PROMISES IF WE MAKE THEM. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. RAEL AND BACK TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, I GET THE PERSPECTIVE. I ALSO GET THE PERSPECTIVE THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE SLEEPING IN THE STREET AT NIGHT. WE ALSO SEE THOSE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS THE CITY. I THINK IT'S REALLY -- IT WOULD NOT BE IN GOOD FAITH FOR THE CITY TO HAVE A FACILITY THAT'S CAPABLE AND ABLE TO HANDLE A SMALL GROUP OF FOLKS TO SPEND A COLD NIGHT IN A WARM PLACE. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE KNOW SOME FOLKS AREN'T GOING TO GO TO THE WEC AND MAYBE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO GO TO GIBSON AND WE'RE SAVING ONE OR TWO LIVES OR HOPEFULLY MORE THAN THAT A NIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING THAT IN THE FOREFRONT. WHY WOULDN'T WE USE OUR FACILITY IF IT'S AVAILABLE WITHIN THE STRUCTURE THAT WE PLACED? WE'VE GOT SECURITY. WE ONLY GOING TO OPEN IT FOR THE NEXT THREE MONTHS. I GET THE FACT THAT WE COMMITTED TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS, BUT LOOK, WE ALL KNOW AND WITH ALL DIFFERENCE TO COUNCILOR DAVIS, WE KNOW THESE NEIGHBORHOOD AGREEMENTS ARE CHALLENGING TO GET 100% SUPPORT FROM ALL THE FOLKS BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS A PERSPECTIVE ON THIS ISSUE. WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO THAT IN GOOD FAITH. I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT THE REASON WE OPENED THIS FACILITY IS BECAUSE WE HAVE IT. AND BECAUSE IT'S AVAILABLE TO BE USED IN COLD NIGHTS WHEN PEOPLE NEED A PLACE TO SLEEP. I THINK IT WOULD BE WORSE FOR ME TO SIT HERE AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT FOLKS THAT WE HAVE FOLKS DYING IN THE STREET AND SOMEONE SAYS WHY DON'T YOU OPEN UP GIBSON, IT'S A BIG FACILITY. WHY DON'T YOU HAVE THEM SPEND THE NIGHT IN THE LOBBY? I THINK FOR ALL THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU ALL AT LEAST WOULD KNOW THIS WAS OUR INTENT WAS TO TRY TO USE THE FACILITY WE HAVE THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US SO SOMEONE DOESN'T DIE IN THE STREETS AT NIGHT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU APPRECIATE THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, MR. RAEL, I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. I THINK ABSOLUTELY THAT WE SHOULD MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE SAFE AND WARM. I THINK IN GOOD FAITH WE SHOULD FULFILL OUR PROMISES MADE TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. IT SHOULDN'T BE A ONE OR THE OTHER. THAT'S WHAT I'M SIMPLY SAYING. IF THE PROMISE IS MADE BY THE CITY AND WE SOLIDIFY IT THROUGH LEGISLATION, I THINK IT SHOULD BE IN GOOD FAITH AND LEGALLY AN GLAKZ -- OBLIGATION WE FULFILL. I AGREE WITH THAT. LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE FULFILLING OUR PROMISES TO MAKE SURE WE HONOR EVERYONE'S PROTECTION AND SAFETY IN THAT REGARD. MOVING ON, HOPE WORKS IS ONE OF ALBUQUERQUE'S LARGEST PROVIDERS OF SERVICES TO THE HOMELESS. IT SEEMS LIKE THEY SUDDENLY HAD THEIR CONTRACT CANCELED. FROM WHAT I READ, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS CANCELED AFTER A PUBLICLY -- THE CITY WAS PUBLICLY ACCUSED OF FRAUD. SOON AFTER THE CO-CEO PENNED AN OP-PED. AND SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN EXONERATED, AND THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING WRONG. WHAT IS THE ADMINISTRATION DOING TO REPAIR THIS RELATIONSHIP? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I'M GOING TO ASK DIRECTOR PIERCE TO YET AGAIN EXPLAIN WHERE THINGS ARE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL CAN APPRECIATE THIS. THIS IS THE OIG'S INVESTIGATION. IT'S MULTIFACETED. THE OPINION THAT THEY RENDERED RELATED TO THE AUDIT IS ONE-DIMENSIONAL. IT DEALS WITH ONE PHASE OF THE AUDIT. THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES WITH THE AUDIT THAT REALLY CREATE A CHALLENGE FOR US ADMINISTRATIVELY TO GO FORWARD WITH THE ACTIONS -- TO BASICALLY GO BACK ON THE ACTIONS WE'VE TAKEN AS IT RELATES TO THE FACILITY AND TO THE PROGRAM AND ORGANIZATION. I KNOW THAT I TALKED TO COUNCILOR BENTON ABOUT THIS. LOOK, WE ARE WORKING WITH HOPE WORKS ON MANY ENDEAVORS. AND WE'LL HOPEFULLY CONTINUE TO GET A STRONGER RELATIONSHIP. BUT I WANT DIRECTOR PIERCE TO QUALIFY WHAT THE CONCERNS IS AS IT RELATES TO THIS PARTICULAR AUDIT. THE AUDIT THAT WAS DONE BY THE OIG VERSUS WHAT THE AG REVIEWED ARE NOT QUITE THE SAME. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, HOPE WORKS IS A VALUED PARTNER. WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM A LONG TIME. AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM TODAY AND THEY HAVE MULTIPLE CONTRACTS WITH FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. THE OIG REPORT CAME OUT ABOUT THIS TIME A YEAR AGO. AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS THERE WERE MANY, MANY CONVERSATIONS. IN THAT OIG REPORT WE RECENTLY -- THERE WERE SEVERAL DOCUMENTS THROUGH THAT CONVERSATION. ONE, HOPE WORKS HAD A FORENSIC AUDIT DONE BY AN OUTSIDE AGENCY AND THEY PRODUCED THAT. THOUGHT WAS WAS GIVE TOON THE OIG. AND FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, I GOT THE COPY FROM HOPE WORKS. THAT IS THIS OIG. I CAN'T SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE OIG WHEN THAT REPORT WAS DONE, THE PIECE THAT THERE WAS DEBT OWED TO THE CITY THAT BECAUSE OF SOME BILLING PRACTICES. THAT WAS ABOUT $155,000. WE CONTINUED TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND HOPE WORKS MAKES A PAYMENT OF $10,000 PER MONTH. THAT IS VERY DISTINCT AND SEPARATE FROM THE MEDICAID FRAUD. WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH HOPE WORKS. THEY HAVE CONTRACT WITH US. THEY ARE A VITAL PARTNER. I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY LOST IN MY TIME FRAME, I THINK IT WAS MANY MONTHS AGO WHEN THE CEO AND I MET AND BECAUSE WE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE OIG. WE GOT THE OIG REPORT AND LOOK AT THAT INFORMATION. MY STAFF WENT OVER TO HOPE WORKS TO MEET TO REKINDLE WHAT WE'VE HAD AS A LONGSTANDING RELATIONSHIP AND THAT CONTINUES UNTIL THIS DAY. I THINK THERE'S QUESTIONS ON THE OIG AND THE AG REPORT AND THE MEDICAID FRAUD, I THINK THAT'S QUESTIONS FOR THE OIG. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, AND I RESPECT THAT. I JUST FEEL LIKE IF HOPE WORKS HAS BEEN PAYING THE CITY BACK FOR SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN NOW EXONERATED BY THE AG, ARE WE GIVING THEIR MONEY BACK? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THERE ARE TWO DISTINCT PIECES. SO, WHEN I RECEIVED THAT AG REPORT ON THE MEDICAID FRAUD, I THINK THAT'S GREAT NEWS. THAT'S GREAT NEWS THAT THERE'S NO MEDICAID FRAUD. FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES DIDN'T SAY THERE WAS MEDICAID FRAUD. AN OIG DID THE FINDINGS A YEAR AGO. IT WAS A SEPARATE PIECE IN THE OIG REPORT THAT TALKED ABOUT $155,000 THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH MEDICAID DOUBLE BILLING IT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT THE CITY WAS BUILD AGAINST THE FEDERAL GRANT. FROM THE DOCUMENTATION FROM THE OIG THEY SAID THAT HOPE WORKS ODE THE CITY $155,000. IT IS DISTINCT FROM WHAT THAT AG REPORT WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE MEDICAID FRAUD. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. I'M WONDERING, IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS CLAIMING AND WE ALL HAVE AGREED THAT HOMELESSNESS AND FIGHTING IT AND HELPING IT AND MINIMIZING IT AND ALL OF THAT IS A PRIORITY OF THE CITY, WE HAVE ALL AGREED TO THAT, THAT'S A NO-BRAINER. BUT IF WE'VE ALL AGREED ASK THE ADMINISTRATION IS CLAIMING HOMELESSNESS IS A PRIORITY IT SOUNDS LIKE MORE CAN BE DONE TO REPAIR THE RELATIONSHIP WITH HOPE WORKS IF THEY'RE ONE OF THE BIGGEST AND STRONGEST ADVOCATES AND EXPERTS IN HELPING WITH HOMELESSNESS. NOT JUST PEOPLE. THEY'RE EXPERTS IN DOING THIS. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN IN THE CITY TO REPAIR THAT RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE THOSE EXPERTS ARE AN AVAILABLE RESOURCE AND I HATE TO LOSE THEM BECAUSE OF POTENTIAL DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER OR DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT. ARE WE TO BE IN TROUBLE FOR DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT? I ALREADY HEARD THAT I AM. BECAUSE I'M ASKING QUESTIONS THAT ARE HAVING A DIVERSE OPINION, I THINK THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE AS A COUNCIL SHOULD COME TO EXPECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RETALIATED AGAINST OR REPERCUSSIONS. I THINK THAT SEEMS LIKE A POTENTIAL FOR SETTING UP THE FUTURE OF WHAT MAY HAPPEN. I'LL BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO ME. NOT THAT I'M SCARED OR WORRIED ABOUT IT. BECAUSE I'M AN EQUAL ELECTED OFFICIAL, AS ARE ALL OF YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: I HAVE HAD THE SAME CONVERSATIONS THAT APPARENTLY COUNCILOR BASSAN HAS HAD. I'VE ALSO BEEN IN MEETING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND HOPE WORKS. I CAN VOUCH FOR THE FACT THAT THERE'S GOOD FAITH THAT HAS BEEN SHOWN. AND THIS HAS BEEN CONSIDERED BY EVERYONE CONCERNED UNFORTUNATE. IT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE AND WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. THAT DOESN'T MEAN ALL YOUR QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN FULLY ANSWERED. I'M NOT SAYING THAT, COUNCILOR BASSAN. I VALUE HOPE WORKS. THEY HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAD TO AGREE AND THEY DID DO A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT WITH THE HOUSING THAT WAS BUILT THERE. SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. IT'S UNFORTUNATE, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. I THINK THE AG HAS CLEARED THEM ON ONE FRONT AND THERE'S STILL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE OTHER MATTER. I'M HOPEFUL AND I'M CONFIDENT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR BASSAN, YOU HAVE ANOTHER ITEM? >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON, BECAUSE THAT HELPED ME TOO. I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT OPINION. AND I VALUE IT A LOT MORE AS OF TODAY. >>COUN. BENTON: I ASKED SOME OF THE EXACT SAME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE MY LAST SUBJECT OF QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO DO SO. ALBUQUERQUE TAXPAYER DOLLARS WERE SPENT TO PURCHASE AN ARTIFICIAL PLAYING FIELD FOR THE GLADIATER STADIUM IN RIO RANCHO. IT WAS SAID ON THE NEWS STORY WAS GOING TO BENEFIT ALL COUNCIL DISTRICTS IN ALBUQUERQUE. THEY PURCHASED THE TURF. I WAS TOLD WE'RE LEASING THE TURF TO RIO RANCHO. I DIDN'T GET A COPY OF THE LEASE. HOWEVER WHEN THE FUNDS WERE -- I GUESS LOBBIED AT THAT POINT, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE N.O.O. AND ALL THE PROMISES, THE CITY SPENT MONEY FROM PARKS AND RECREATION TO BUY THE TURF FOR THE GLADIATE ERS. AND THE CITY INVOICED THE STATE FOR REPAYMENT OF THE THOSE FUNDS. AND THE STATE DENIED THAT REQUEST BECAUSE IT WAS GOING AGAINST THE ANTI- DONATION CLAUSE. I'M WONDERING NOW AND THIS JUST ALSO PREFACES, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO THE LEGISLATORS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THIS. THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE TO WHATEVER THEY WANT, IT'S STATE FUNDING. WHAT THIS HAS TO DO WITH IS THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE PARKS AND REC AATION DEPARTMENT BOUGHT TURF, IT'S IN A FACILITY IN RIO RANCHO. IF WE'RE LEASING IT TO THEM I'D LOVE TO SEE THE LEASE. I'D LOVE TO KNOW WHAT FUND THAT IS GOING INTO AND WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE MONEY. I ALSO CURRENTLY BASED OFF THE INFORMATION I HAVE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE DID THAT MONEY COME FROM? I DON'T REMEMBER AND I COULD BE WRONG, YOU CAN TELL ME I'M WRONG IF THE COUNCIL APPROVED PURCHASE TURF FOR RIO RANCHO AND GIVING IT TO THEM INSTEAD OF USING IT IN ALBUQUERQUE? >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. RAEL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I BELIEVE OUR PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR IS HERE AND CAN GIVE YOU MORE DETAIL. AS HE'S WALKING UP, THE COUNCIL APPROVED ALL OF THE CAPITAL OUTPLAY APPROPRIATIONS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. ALL OF THE CAPITAL OUTLAY MAT -- THAT WE GET FROM THE PREVIOUS LEGISLATION IS IN THE BILL. THAT'S HOW THE COUNCIL APPROVES AND APPROPRIATES THE MONEY FOR THE PROJECTS. JUST FOR ANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE DO. TYPICALLY, IT'S PART OF THE BUDGET. MR. SIMON HAS -- CAN GIVE YOU SOME DETAILS ON HOW THIS TRANSACTION OCCURRED. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR. THE CITY PURCHASED AND OWNS THIS INDOOR TURF FIELD. IT'S TEMPORALLY POSITIONED IN RIO RANCHO BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE TEAM IS PLAYING THAT UTILIZING THE TURF FIELD. THE FIELD IS OWNED BY THE CITY. IT'S PORTABLE. AND WILL COME BACK TO THE CITY, I THINK, EVENTUALLY. IT'S THE OBJECTIVE OF THE TEAM TO COME BACK TO THE CITY. AND THE TURF FIELD WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S USE AS WELL. IT'S BEEN MAINTAINED THERE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. WE HAVE NO COST, WHICH IS EXCELLENT. AND THE AGREEMENT FOR USING THE FIELD IS AN AGREEMENT, NOT A LEASE. WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP, AN IN-KIND TRADE FOR A VARIETY OF SERVICES THAT BENEFIT THE CITY AND ALSO BENEFIT THE CITIZENS THROUGH SUPPORTING THIS PARKS AND REC ACTIVITY. WHICH PERSONS FROM THE AROUND THE REGION ATTEND AND ENJOY. THE FIELD REMAINS OUR PROPERTY. AND IT'S TEMPORARILY THERE BECAUSE OF SOME COVID RESTRICTIONS THAT PREVENTED THIS ORGANIZATION FROM PLAYING IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO ITS RETURN TO THE CITY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, AND DIRECTOR, IT'S BEING UTILIZED THROUGH AN AGREEMENT WITH A PRIVATE TEAM FOR CITY USE AND OWNED PRODUCT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, IT'S A THREE-WAY AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY, THE TEAM AND RIO RANCHO EVENT CENTER. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. YOU KNOW, GETTING MORE CLEAR EVERY YEAR ABOUT OUR BUDGET PROCESS. I DON'T RECALL EVER SAYING WE SHOULD BUY OR KNOWING ABOUT ANY TURF THAT WAS GOING TO BE TEMPORARILY PLACED IN RIO RANCHO. AND I'M PRETTY SURE THE PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE WOULD LOVE TO USE THAT. I THINK IT'S GREAT THEY PROBABLY WOULD LOVE TO CHEER ON THE GLADIATORS TOO. THAT'S FABULOUS, BUT WHAT ABOUT ALBUQUERQUE. THERE'S THINGS THAT SHOULD BE FUNDED HERE, IN MY OPINION, BEFORE WE START GIVING THINGS TO -- AGREES TO LOAN THINGS TO RIO RANCHO. YOU KNOW, I KNOW IN THE BUDGET PROCESS WE DID APPROVE FUNDING, MULTIPLE TIMES, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT THERE YET FOR AN INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY IN COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S DISTRICT. I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET THERE, AGAIN I FEEL LIKE THE CART IS PUT IN FRONT OF THE HORSE AND NOW RIO RANCHO GETS IT. I THINK THAT'S REALLY ALSO IRRITATING. I THINK OUR TAXPAYERS DON'T REALLY WANT -- MAYBE THEY DO. I WOULD LOVE TO GET EMAILS, PLEASE TAXPAYERS AND PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE EXITED ABOUT HAVING TURF IN RIO RANCHO. I THINK WE SHOULD USE IT HERE. I THINK ALBUQUERQUE AND OUR DOLLARS, I DIDN'T SEE AN AGREEMENT, I'M SURE WE DID APPROVE IT. I WOULD LOVE TO BE REMINDED OF IT. BUT I THINK IF THE STATE SAID THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT DUE TO ON -- ANTI- DONATION, IT'SING CONCERNING WE'RE DOING IT. >> I'M PLEASED THAT WE'VE HAD HUNDREDS OF ALBUQUERQUE YOUTH USE THE TURF FIELD UNDER THIS AGREEMENT UNDER OUR FULL SCHEDULE OF ACCESS OF EVENTS THAT CONTINUE TO ALLOW ALBUQUERQUE YOUTH SPORTS USE TO USE IT. THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS WE'RE PRODUCING BENEFITS. >>COUN. BASSAN: DIRECTOR, THAT'S THE FIRST GOOD THING I'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS TURF. THAT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S FABULOUS. MY NEXT FOLLOW UP, IS THE CITY HELPING THE SAME YOUTH AND THE APPROPRIATE RESOURCES TO GET TO RIO RANCHO, ARE WE BUSSING THEM OR HELPING THEM WITH THAT? ARE WE TAKING THEM ON TRANSIT ISSUES? ARE WE ACCOMMODATING AND HELPING THOSE UNDER PRIVILEGED AND UNDER SERVED OR JUST THOSE FAMILIES THAT GET TO DRIVE TO RIO RANCHO THAT CAN USE THAT FIELD? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, I'M AWARE SOME PARTNERSHIPS THAT FALL DIRECTLY INTO THAT. ONE OF THE PARTNERSHIPS IS WITH THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OF CENTRAL NEW MEXICO. THEY DO SERVE A LOT OF KIDS. AND TO BENEFIT FROM THIS PROGRAM AND COULD USE A LITTLE EXTRA ASSISTANCE AND HELP AND THAT'S ONE GROUP THAT IS ACCESSING THE FIELD AND THE PARTNERSHIP THERE I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: IT'S JUST TO SAY THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONTINUING. I LOOK FORWARD TO IT CONTINUING IN ALBUQUERQUE. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN THEN -- I'M SORRY COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. GROUT: REAL QUICK QUESTION, MR. PRESIDENT. WHY DID WE BUY $250,000 WORTH OF TURF? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THE TOTAL COST OF THE FIELD IS $236,000. THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT THE CITY AGREED TO BE THE FICKLE AGENT FOR THE STATE LEGISLATURE. THAT FREQUENTLY HAPPENS. AS YOU KNOW WITH STATE AND LEGISLATIVE PROJECTS AND THE REQUESTS. WHEN ASKED, THE CITY IS USUALLY THERE TO BE WILLING PARTNER WITH THE STATE LEGISLATORS IF THEY HAVE A PROJECT IN MIND. THAT'S HOW THIS PROJECT ORIGINATED. >>COUN. GROUT: DID WE PUT ANY MONEY INTO THIS? $250,000 ALSO? THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE? NOT JUST THE LEGISLATORS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, THE TOTAL COST OF THE TOTAL COST ABOUT $74,000 WAS BY THE CITY. CONTRIBUTED BY THE CITY. >>COUN. GROUT: WE CONTRIBUTED $74,000 AND THE REMAINING $130,000 CAME FROM THE STATE? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. IT'S STILL INTERESTING THAT WE PAID FOR SOME OF IT IN RIO RANCHO. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THE CHILDREN ARE USING IT. WE HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS ABOUT GETTING THOSE KIDS THERE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST THINK WE NEED TO TIGHTEN THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT. YOU SAID IT'S GOING TO BE BACK EVENTUALLY. ACCOUNTABILITY IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. IF YOU'RE TALKING EVENTUALLY, THEN EVENTUALLY WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT DATE IT WILL BE BACK TO ALBUQUERQUE. I SAW THE PICTURES AND THE PICTURES SHOW IT HAS THE TEAM NAME ON IT. WITH THAT, IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE IT'S PURCHASED FOR THE TEAM. WHEN WILL THAT BE BACK? IS THE TEAM NAME ON IT? AND WHY? WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO PAY THE CITY FOR USING IT? WE SHOULD GET A LIST OF ALBUQUERQUE YOUTH WHO ARE USING THE FIELD. HOW OFTEN IS THE FIELD BEING UTILIZED BY ALBUQUERQUE YOUTH? THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE DOCUMENTED AND SHOWN TO US. AND PROVEN THAT THIS FIELD IS BEING USED IN THE WAY THAT YOU'RE SAYING IT'S BEING USED. ACCOUNTABILITY IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. TRANSPARENCY IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. IF YOU CAN'T TELL US WHERE THAT FIELD IS -- OR HOW IT'S BEING STORED AND UTILIZED AND HOW MANY TIMES IT'S BEING USELETTED FOR THE YOUTH OF ALBUQUERQUE, ALL OF THAT INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE PUT ON PAPER AND GIVEN TO THE COUNCIL. AND THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT DOCUMENT TO SEE EXACTLY HOW THAT'S BEING SPENT. I THINK EVERY COUNCILOR IN HERE IS GOING TO AGREE WITH ME ON THAT. ANOTHER THING, THAT FIELD PROBABLY SHOULD BE IN ALBUQUERQUE. IF WE SPENT IT. I CAN ONLY MINNESOTA -- I THINK I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE CONVERSATION GOING ON IF RIO RANCHO PURCHASED A FIELD FOR ALBUQUERQUE. THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL. I JUST THINK IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY POOR JUDGMENT ON WHOEVER -- ON MAYOR KELLER WHO MADE THAT. OBVIOUSLY, IT WAS THE KELLER ADMINISTRATION THAT MADE THAT CHOICE TO DO THIS OUTSIDE OF CITY COUNCIL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, WE'LL CERTAINLY GET YOU SOME INFORMATION AS YOU REQUESTED. I THINK THIS ISSUE GOES BACK TO THE SAME ISSUE WE HAD EARLIER WITH BEDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. THIS IS AN INDOOR TURF. WE DON'T HAVE AN INDOOR FACILITY IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE COULD HAVE PURCHASED THIS BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE PROVIDED THE FUNDING. WE COULD HAVE PURCHASED IT, ROLLED IT UP, AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE IN A BUILDING AND LEFT IT THERE FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS UNTIL WE DECIDED TO BUILD A BUILDING. IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE LEMONADE OUT OF THE LEMONS. WE HAVE A TURF THAT IS PERFECTLY USABLE. WE HAVE A FACILITY THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE USE OF THE TURF, AND WOULD PROVIDE SOME SERVICES FOR YOUTH OF ALBUQUERQUE. NO QUESTION, NOT EVERYONE IN ALBUQUERQUE GETS TO USE IT. AT LEAST WE PUT IT TO USE. OTHERWISE THE SURF WOULD SIT IN A BUILDING SOMEWHERE AND WOULD NOT BE USED BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A BUILDING THAT'S BIG ENOUGH FOR THE TYPE OF EVENT OR USE THIS IS DESIGNED TO BE. I JUST WANT TO SAY TO YOU, IT'S NOT A -- BY OUR INTENT, TO HAVE IT IN RIO RANCHO. WE PERFED TO HAVE IN ALBUQUERQUE. BUT SINCE WE HAVE IT, LET'S PUT IT TO USE AND GET BENEFIT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE REGION. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERNS, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, WE'LL GET YOU THAT INFORMATION AS BEST WE KNOW IT FROM THE FOLKS AT THE STAR CENTER. AND SO, IF WE WANT TO GET THE TURF, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO PICK IT UP AND ROLL IT UP AND PUT IT IN A WAREHOUSE AND IT'S IN ALBUQUERQUE AND NOBODY GETS TO USE IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PUT IT. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF IT. YES, IT DOES HAVE THE LOGOS ON IT. THAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE GLADIATE -- GLADIATERS ARE JUST LIKE OTHER TEAMS. IF WE DON'T WANT THE LOGOS WE CAN TAKE THEM OFF. WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT TRYING TO USE THE TURF WHILE WE HAVE IT. IT WAS A STATE APPROPRIATION. WE DIDN'T ASK FOR THE APPROPRIATION. IT CAME TO US AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST USE OF IT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WHY WOULD WE AGREE TO IT IF WE DON'T HAVE A FACILITY? >> ON SOME OF THE APPROPRIATIONS, THEY DON'T ASK US IF WE WANT TO AGREE TO IT, THEY SHOW UP. WE ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO BE HELPFUL IN THE BEST WAY WE CAN. I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS WAS NOT A REQUEST WE PUT IN THE BOOK THAT SAID WE WANTED TURF FOR THE TEAM. IT WAS AN APPROPRIATION THAT WAS SENT TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: ONE LAST THING IS HOW OFTEN IS THAT FIELD SET UP? IF THAT FIELD IS SET UPRIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE'S A CONCERT, LAST WEEK, OBVIOUSLY NOT. IT'S GOING TO BE PICKED UP, PUT BACK, OR IS IT OUT THERE THE WHOLE TIME? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THE FIELD IS USED AND STORED AT THE THE EVENT CENTER. AND IT'S ASSEMBLED AND DISASSEMBLED OR SET UP AND TAKEN DOWN AT THE CENTER. I'D BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU CLARITY OF HOW OFTEN IT'S BEEN USED. IT'S BEING USED FREQUENTLY DEPENDING ON THE EVENTS AT THE CENTER. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: BECAUSE WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE THE ALBUQUERQUE YOUTH UTILIZE IT WHEN IT'S SET UP AROUND GAME TIME. OTHERWISE IT'S SPICKED UP AND OR ANOTHER EVENT THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY UTILIZING THE FIELD. >> COUNCILOR, WE DID SOME GREAT THINGS OVER THE WINTER HOLIDAYS. WHEN MANY KIDS WERE OFF SCHOOL. THE FIELD WAS DOWN AND SET UP AND WE GOOD ADVANTAGE. IT'S NOT ALWAYS JUST AROUND GAME TIME. WHEN THE FIELD IS SET UP IT'S SUBJECT TO THE OVERALL SCHEDULE. BUT ALL THAT WORK OF PUTTING IT UP AND DOWN IS NOT ON THE BACK OF THE CITY. GREAT IDEA, COUNCILOR, I THINK WE NEED TO GET RIO RANCHO TO GET US THE FIELD AND WE'LL TRY TO BALANCE IT OUT. >>COUN. LEWIS: NOBODY IS SAYING WE WANT TO ROLL THIS UP AND PUT IT IN THE CLOSET. NOBODY IS SAYING WE WANT TO TAKE THE NAME OF ALBUQUERQUE OFF IT. LET'S BE HONEST, WE WEREN'T JUST GIVEN THIS FIELD AND DIDN'T WANT IT. THE MAYOR CLEARLY WANTED THIS FIELD WORKED WITH THE LEGISLATORS ON IT. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THAT WE WOULD HAVE THIS FIELD IF THE MAYOR DIDN'T INITIATE THAT AND WANT TO HAVE THIS FIELD. WORK WITH THE LEGISLATORS AND OWNERS OF THE TEAM TO DO THAT. THERE'S NO WAY THIS DIRECTOR WOULD HAVE ACTED ON YOUR OWN TO DO THAT. THIS CAME FROM THE ADMINISTRATION AND WE ACQUIRED THIS FIELD. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE WAY IT WORKED IS WE PAID FOR THIS FIELD AND THEN WE HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETELY REIMBURSED FOR THIS FIELD. WE HAVE PAID FOR THIS FIELD. AND NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE THE FIELD IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, THE DEPARTMENT HAS SOME MONEY AND NEEDS SOME MONEY TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT AND UTILIZE IT SO THIS CAME OUT OF THE BUDGET FROM PARKS AND REC. WITHOUT THIS COMING TO COUNCIL FOR US TO APPROVE. IF THE COUNCIL HASN'T HEARD OF THIS IT'S BECAUSE THEY VAERNT HEARD ABOUT IT IN ANY WAY. IT'S THE DEPARTMENT TRYING TO MANAGE THIS NOW THAT THEY HAVE IT. I'VE SEEN THE AGREEMENT, THE AGREEMENT DOES REQUIRE THE TEAM TO HOLD A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF YOUTH EVENTS FOR KIDS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND BECAUSE OF COVID THE FIELD IS NOW THERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE PLAYING. BY THE WAY, IT WOULD BE A STATE-OWNED FACILITY IF IT WAS BACK AT TINGLY, BUT AT LEAST IT'S SURROUNDED BY THE CITY LIMITS. IT WOULD MAKE SENSE MORE KIDS FROM ALBUQUERQUE WOULD BE USING IT. SEVERAL THINGS AND SOME OF IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED. ONE WOULD BE WHEN DOES THE TEAM PLAN MOVING BACK TO ALBUQUERQUE OR TO THE CONVENTION CENTER OR A FACILITY LIKE THAT? BECAUSE IT'S TEMPORARY. THEY'RE IN RIO RANCHO FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. AND NUMBER TWO, I THINK IT'S REASONABLE THIS COUNCIL WOULD ASK FOR A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF EVENTS OVER THE LAST YEAR, 2022, DIRECTOR, IF YOU CAN GIVE US A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF EFRBTS THEY HELD THAT SPECIFICALLY SERVED KIDS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. WHETHER IT'S THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. I THINK THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO KNOW HOW THE KIDS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WERE SERVED BECAUSE OF THAT FIELD. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, HAPPY TO DO THAT. WE'VE HAD 12 EVENTS ALREADY. WE'RE PROCEEDING WITH ANOTHER 7 SCHEDULED. YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS THE PRESIDENT SAID THE FIELD IS NOT JEOPARDIZED ANY PROJECTS. THE FUNDS ARE RECEIVABLE FOR THE STATE. AND I'M ACTUALLY CONFIDENT WE'LL GET REIMBURSEMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: DIRECTOR, I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH THE FACT THAT THERE ARE CITY PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT HAPPENED. I HAVE SENT EMAILS ASKING FOR BENCHES AND TRASH CANS AND I'M SAID USE THE SET ASIDE BECAUSE PARKS AND REC DOESN'T HAVE THE FUNDING. WHEN I SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IT'S CONCERNING WHEN THERE'S RESIDENTS THAT NEEDS ASSISTANCE WITH THE CITY PARKS, YET I'M TOLD MORE THAN ONCE THAT IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY FUNDING WE CAN MAKE SURE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND SO, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO MAKE SURE THE FUNDS STAY IN ALBUQUERQUE THAT BELONG TO ALBUQUERQUE. MR. PRESIDENT, JUST REALLY IT'S THE JOB OF THE SIT CITY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT FOR OUR CITY GOVERNMENT. WE PROVIDE THE CHECKS AND BALANCES. THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH, THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH. WE'RE EQUAL. THERE IS NO AUTHORITYIAN DICTATOR, THERE'S NO SINGULAR PERSON IN CHARGE. THERE'S TEN PEOPLE THAT RUN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I DEFINITELY FEEL LIKE THAT HASN'T BEEN TREATED FAIRLY OF LATE AND I REMAINED QUIET ON A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS LATELY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS BECAUSE I TRIED TO PLAY NICE. I TRIED TO REALLY LAY LOW AND SEE -- GIVE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. THAT SEEMS TO NOT BE WORKING. NOW I'M AT THE POINT WHERE I'M ANGRY AND I'M DISTURBED. AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT TONIGHT. I THINK THAT YOU KNOW THE MAYOR DOESN'T GET TO OPERATE INDEPENDENTLY. WE HAVE TO BE INVOLVED. I'M VERY CLEAR IN MY ROLE AND POSITION IN HIS PERSPECTIVE. I THINK THAT THE BEST THING I CAN SAY IS THAT THE BEST PREDICTOR OF FUTURE BEHAVIOR IS PAST BEHAVIOR AND I REALLY HOPE I SEE THINGS CHANGE WIN IT COMES TO ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVER SIGHT BECAUSE WE DO COUNT WHEN IT COMES TO THE WAY THIS CITY OPERATES. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? SEEING NONE. WE'RE JUST PAST OUR 7 O'CLOCK MOMENT. I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO IS DO RESET ON THE MICROPHONES FOR OUR AUDIENCE AT HOME. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BRIEF DINNER RECESS. WE'LL STAND ADJOURNED. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS BACK ON TRACK AGAIN. WHEN YOU'RE READY, CALL UPSTAIRS. >>COUN. DAVIS: I THINK WE'RE BACK NOW. FOR ALL THE FOLKS THAT EMAILED US AND TWEETED US AND CALLED US AND SAID THEY COULDN'T HEAR US ON ZOOM, PLEASE KEEP US UPDATED AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS EVENING. I THINK OUR TECH TEAK FIGURED THIS OUT. I APOLOGIZE, BAUZ OF THE MIC ISSUES WE NEGLECTED TO LET COUNCILOR SANCHEZ FINISH HIS QUESTION. WE'RE GOING TO LET COUNCILOR SANCHEZ FINISH THAT AND MOVE STRAIGHT INTO THE ORDER OF BUSINESS. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE TOWARD THE ADMINISTRATION, TOWARD MAYOR KELLER, IS THE FACT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY BUILD A FACILITY, THE KEN SANCHEZ INDOOR SPORTS COMPLEX ON THE WEST SIDE. WE HAVE MONEY READY TO GO IN REFERENCE TO THAT. WE NEED TO START WORKING ON BUILDING THAT COMPLEX AND WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT THIS TURF RIGHT SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. IT WOULD BE A FIELD HOUSE, SO TO SPEAK. WHILE WE'RE SPENDING MONEY IN A DIFFERENT CITY, WE SHOULD BE SPENDING MONEY ON OUR YOUTH IN THIS CITY. SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A FACILITY HERE TO ENJOY. AND I THINK WE SHOULD WORK ON GETTING THAT FACILITY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO WE CAN ACTUALLY BRING THAT TURF BACK AND PUT IT IN THE FACILITY. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. WE HAVE DONE A DESIGN OF THAT FACILITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $26 MILLION. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THAT. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT FACILITY. THE SUPPORT IS THEREFROM THE MAYOR. WE'LL TRY TO MAKE IT A REALITY. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. I KNOW EVERY COUNCILOR WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT MONEY IN ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THERE IS ANOTHER COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION TO TALK WITH THE OTHER COUNCILORS ABOUT. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ MENTIONED A WEST SIDE FACILITY. WE DISCUSSED THAT AS WELL. I GUESS I WANTED TO MENTION THAT AS A REMINDER THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS AGAIN AND TALKING WITH THE OTHER COUNCILORS, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, AND COUNCILOR PEÑA AND THE ADMINISTRATION. WE CAN SCHEDULE THAT PRETTY SOON, I'D LOVE TO DO THAT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO VAT THE CONVERSATION. IN MANY WAYS, I THINK WHAT COUNCILOR SANCHEZ TALKED ABOUT IS THE FIELD WOULD BE A DIFFERENT PROJECT THAN I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR GROUT, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. >>COUN. GROUT: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE JANUARY 4th JOURNAL. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. ANY OPPOSED? COUNCILOR PEÑA IS EXCUSED UNTIL SHE RETURNS. COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? I MOVE THE RULES BE -- SUSPENDED FOR PLACING EC222. IT'S APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT FOR PROFESSIONAL TECH SERVICES TO IMPLEMENT ENTERPRISE LEASING AND PERMITTING SOFTWARE. I MOVE THAT THE RULES BE SPUS PENDED. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY FOR COUNCILORS PRESENT. COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR JONES, COUNCILOR PEÑA, AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. SOMEBODY RA1. >>COUN. BENTON: I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING RA1 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION. IT'S AMENDING ARTICLE ONE SECTION TEN OF THE CITY COUNCIL RULES OF THE RENALINGER RELATING TO ATTENDANCE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. DAVIS: ALL THOSE IN FAVORER. THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT UP IS COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING O-25 AND REFERRING IT TO THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE. IT'S APPOINTMENT OF MR. COPOLA TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND SEVERAL SECONDS. I'LL TAKE COUNCILOR BASSAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. COUNCILOR PEÑA IS BACK WITH US. THAT MATTER IS CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE HAVE SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS. THOSE ALL PICK UP NEXT MONTH. DEFERRALS AND WITHDRAWALS. ANY AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE. WE'RE ON TO CONSENT. THANK YOU FOR STAFF STICKING WITH US THROUGH THE BREAK. WE WANT TO GET YOU OUT OF HERE EARLIER. I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE HERE FOR SOMETHING ON THAT WE HAD TO GET IT FIXES. MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. >>COUN. GROUT: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT MATTER CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT UP GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU FOR HANGING AROUND WITH US. WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME MICROPHONE SWITCHES WHILE I READ THE RULE. MEMBERS OF PUBLIC COMMENT CAN PROVIDE LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY IF THEY SIGNED FROM PUBLIC COMMENT PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA AND ON OUR WEBSITE ON FRIDAY. HERE ARE THE GROUND RULES HEECH HAVE TWO MINUTES. AND MUST KEY FROM THE MEETING. THERE IS A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT AND A BELL WILL RING TO INDICATE YOUR TIME LIMIT IS UP. MR. CORNELIOSU PG. >> FIRST IS JOSH FOLLOWED BY TAD. >>COUN. DAVIS: IF YOUR NAME IS CALLED AND YOU'RE CALLED UP NEXT, SIT IN THE FRONT ROW SO WE CAN GET YOU READY TO GO. >> TOUCHDOWN FOLLOW ? >> TAD FOLLOWED BY KENNY. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE CAN SEE IT NOW. THANK YOU. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. MY NAME IS TAD. LET ME BEGIN SAYING IT THIS WAY WITH MY COMMENT. IF WE DON'T HAVE OUR SIDE AND ACCOUNTABILITY WE HAVE CORRUPTION IN EVERY LEVEL OF OUR GOVERNMENT. INCLUDING OUR SYSTEM RIGHT HERE, I'M SHOWING MY CASE. CHANGING DAYS FROM AUGUST TO JULY 3rd. IMPOSSIBLE. TO FILE THE JUDGMENT ON THE 3RD OF JULY. AND ALSO, ON SUNDAY, JULY 3rd LAST YEAR. NOW, TWO LAWYERS INVOLVED. THE BROTHERS. AND JUDGE JARAMILLO, AND COURT ADMINISTRATION CHANGING DAYS BACKWARD. SO THEY CANNOT LOSE IT CASE. OKAY, THEY GOT CAUGHT. BECAUSE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO FILE ON THE 3rd OF JULY. NUMBER TWO, ON SUNDAY, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. WITH THIS CASE. THEY GOT CAUGHT AND THEY ARE GOING TO JURY TRIAL. ALL THREE PARTIES I HAVE RIGHT HERE EVIDENCE TO PROVE IT. THAT IS ONE THING. WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THIS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. HOW RUDE THEY ARE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. >> KENNY FOLLOWED BY MAURIEN ON ZOOM. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, HAVE GONE, I'M SPEAKING FOR COUNTLESS VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE INCLUDING ME AND MY FAMILY. OUR HOME WAS SHOT AT 26 TIMES ON DECEMBER 23rd. OUR -- THERE WAS A HOME SHOT AT 42 TIMES. AND FAMILIES LIKE -- WHO GOT MURDERED BY A SO-CALLED GOOD GUY. MY POSITION IS THAT ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD ADOPT A POSITION THAT THE UNITED STATES SHOULD HAVE FEDERAL GUN LAWS AT LEAST AS STRICT AS WHAT THEY HAVE IN THE UNITED KINGDOM AND THEY LOBBY NEW MEXICO'S THREE REPRESENTATIVES AND TWO SENATORS ON THIS POSITION. AS FOR MUNICIPAL AND STATE ACTION ON GUNS, ANY SUCH PROPOSAL AT TO BE INFORMED BY THE -- OTHERWISE WE'LL BE CHASING OUR TAILS ON THE ISSUE. INNOCENT PEOPLE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT WILL CONTINUE TO BE HARMED AND KILLED DUE TO NEEDLESS RATES OF LEGAL AND ILLEGAL GUN OWNERSHIP. I'M AWARE THAT ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL OF ANY GOVERNMENT AT ANY PARTY DO NOT SUPPORT SUCH IDEA. 15 YEARS AGO AT THE AGE OF 23 I WAS A NEWLY MINTED FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE LOBBYIST FOR WASHINGTON D.C. SITTING ACROSS THE TABLE FROM MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND CABINET SECRETARIES. AND WORKING ON NATIONAL POLLS WITH LIKES OF NOTORIOUS REPUBLICAN POLLTERES. I KNOW HOW POLITICS AND PUBLIC OPINION WORK. I ALSO KNOW HOW CAUSE AND EFFECT WORK AND THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF SENSELESS GUN VIOLENCE IS THE OVERWHELMING RATE OF GUN OWNERSHIP IN THIS COUNTRY AND THE DEVASTAING EFFECTS. I'LL BE FOLLOWLING UP WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOUR OFFICES TO PROVIDE A BRIEF FACT SHEET OF UK GUN LAWS AND DEMAND AGGRESSIVE ACTION BE TAKEN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> MAUREEN FOLLOWED BY BARBARA. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT TO THE POLICE OVERSIGHT ORDINANCE IN 2022 THERE WERE 18 SHOOTINGS BE POLICE RESULTS IN TEN DEATHS. THIS IS NOT THE DEATH TO RETHINK POLICE OVERSIGHT THANK YOU. >> BARBARA FOLLOWED BY PETER. >>COUN. DAVIS: MS. THEYER IS TEXTING US SAYING THEY'RE HAVING AUDIO ISSUES. LET'S REVISIT WITH HER AND SEE IF THEY CAN CATCH UP. >> PETER FOLLOWED BY SAYID. WE HAVE BARBARA. PLEASE PROCEED. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. AS YOU KNOW I'M A FORMER DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC AND CURRENT MEMBER OF THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD. AT A PREVIOUS MEETING I LISTED WHAT WOULD BE LOST IF THE OPEN SPACE POLICE UNIT IS DISSOLVED. I WANT TO ADD TO THOSE REMARKS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALIZE THAT AN INJURED PERSON IN OPEN SPACE WHO CALLS FOR HELP CAN ONLY BE LOCATED TO THE NEAREST CELL TOWER. THE ADVANTAGE OF A TRAINED OPEN SPACE OFFICER IS THAT THEY KNOW THE TERRAIN AND HAVE EMT SKILLS. IN THE PROPOSED SYSTEM THE REPORTING OFFICER WOULD BE UNFAMILIAR WITH OPEN SPACE AND RESCUE WOULD BE DELAYED. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE STATE MOUNTAIN RESCUE TEAM IS COMPOSED OF VOLUNTEERS. IT TAKES TIME FOR THEM TO ASSEMBLE. OPEN SPACE OFFICERS CAN BE ON THE SPOT TO RENDER AID OR RESCUE IMMEDIATELY IF NECESSARY. AND FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW -- DISAPPOINTING IT IS THAT A FORMAL COMMITMENT MADE BY A PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION TO MAINTAIN THE MISSION OF THE OPEN SPACE POLICE UNIT IS BEING ABROGATED. KEN BURNS SAID THE NATIONAL PARK SYSTEM WAS THE COUNTRY'S BEST IDEA. OPEN SPACE IS OUR BEST IDEA. WE NEED TO PROTECT, PRESERVE, AND EXPAND IT NOT DEGRADE IT. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. >> PETER FOLLOWED BY SAYID. >> SAYID FOLLOWED BY ROSEMARY. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. I'M WORKING WITH TOGETHER FOR BROTHERS. I WANT TO SPEAK REGARDING ZERO FARES AND HOW IT AFFECTS THE PEOPLE MOST IMPACTED. AND ALSO WANTED TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCE ON ZERO FARES AND THE PEOPLE THAT I MET AROUND THE CITY AND ALSO ON THE BUS STOPS AS WELL AND HOW THEY WERE TELLING ME THAT IT AFFECTS THEM IN MANY WAYS. IT HELPS THEM TO GET AROUND THE TOWN WITHOUT WORRYING TO PAY OR LIKE TO HAVE A BUS PASS. PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESS, THEY ARE LIKE VERY HAPPY WITH THE ZERO FARES. AND ALSO, DURING THE ZERO FARES AND HAVE HEARD FROM OTHER FAMILIES WHO HAVE BENEFITTED FROM THE FREE FARES AND THAT INCLUDING GETTING ACCESS TO RESOURCES THAT THEIR FAMILIES NEED IT. I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE IN THE CITY TO HAVE THIS. BASED ON THE DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED IT SHOWS THE RIDERSHIP HAS INCREASED AS WELL. IF WE DO END UP USING THE I.D. OR ANY TYPE OF PASSES, I DON'T THINK IT WILL HELP THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL AND IT WILL DECREASE THE RIDERSHIP. I WOULD LIKE FOR EVERYONE TO JUST DECIDE ON WHAT IS BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO FOR THOSE WHO ARE IMPACTED AS WELL. THANK YOU. >> ROSEMARY FOLLOWED BY ANITA. >> GOOD EVENING. COUNCILOR DAVIS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I RESIDE IN COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX. I'M SPEAKING WITH CONCERN FOR THREE ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA. AND THE OVERALL CITY APPROACH TO SERVICES FOR OUR MOST MARGINALIZED AND RESOURCE POOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. THIS WOULD BE YOUR O-47, 0-62 AND R-70. I'M HERE TO REINFORCE MY EARLIER TESTIMONY NOT TO PLACE BURDENS ON FREE BUS SERVICE WHICH WILL NEGATIVELY PEOPLE UNHOUSED AND PEOPLE WITHOUT ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY AND PEOPLE WHO EXPERIENCE COGNITIVE AND OTHER DISABILITIES THAT AFFECT THEIR ABILITY TO FOLLOW DIRECTIONS TO MAINTAIN THE PREFARE PASS. AND ASK YOU TO BE CAUTIOUS IN USING RELATED ORDINANCES LIKE THE TRANSIT SECURITY ORDINANCE THAT CRIMINALIZE BEING IN AND AROUND TRANSIT STOPS. I REALIZE YOU'RE STOPPING PEOPLE FROM HANGING OUT THERE BUT THE PEOPLE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT MAY NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE SCHEDULE IS. PEOPLE CANNOT OCCUPY TRANSIT STOPS EXCEPT WHEN A BUS IS COMING. HOWEVER OFTEN THE BUSES ARE ALLIDATED. HOW ARE WE GOING TO DETERMINE WHO IS AT THAT TRANSIT STOP OR OTHERS WHO HAVE NO GOOD REASON TO BE THERE. HOW IS THAT TO HAPPEN WITHOUT TRIGGERING STEREOTYPES BEING APPLIED TO PEOPLE WHO LOOK FOR OR STEREOTYPED BY RACE, GENDER, ET CETERA? WE NEED SAFE PUBLIC TRANSIT BUT WE DON'T NEED PUBLIC TRANSIT THAT CREATES UNSAFETY BY EXCLUSIONS PLAGUED BY STEREOTYPES. WE DO NOT NEED TO INCREASE THE WAYS WE NEED TO CRIMINALIZE PEOPLE WITH NO PLACE TO GO. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. SAY HELLO TO YOUR CAT. REMIND ME HER NAME. SHE'S A POPULAR FIGURE AT THE CITY COUNCIL. >> THIS IS BRANDY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. WE NEED TO ADD HER TO THE COMMENT LIST. >> I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO TRANSLATE WHAT BRANDY HAD TO ASK. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. WE ALWAYS SEE HER AND LOOK FORWARD TO HER THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. BRANDY LIKES THAT. >> UP NEXT IS ANITA FOLLOWED BY PETER. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS, PRESIDENT, I'M THE BOARD PRESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COALITION A LONGTIME EMPLOYEE OF ALBUQUERQUE HEALTH CARE FOR THE HOMELESS AND A TRANSIT RIDER. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT ANY PROPOSAL TO DISMANTLE ZERO FARES IS HIGHLY DISAPPOINTING, GETTING A PASS AND FINDING A PASS TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT, PAY THE DOLLAR, SHOWING AN I.D. OR PROOF OF MEDICARE IS A BARRIER. AND THE FREEDOM TO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MONEY IS BIGGER THAN FOLKS WHO DON'T RIDE THE BUS REALIZE. DESPITE THE EQUITY ANALYSIS SHOWING THE BURDENS ON THE LOW INCOME PEOPLE WHO ARE BLACK INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF COLOR REMAIN DEEPLY CONCERNING. EXTREMELY LOW INCOME PEOPLE PAYING BETWEEN 50 AND 80% OF HOUSING. HOUSING HAS INCREASED BY 38% AT SOME RATES YEAR OVER YEAR. ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY. WITH NO INCREASE IN INCOME. THIS CREATED INCREASES IN HOMELESSNESS. TRANSPORTATION IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE. WITH THE CITY'S AIM TO IMPROVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ZERO FARES IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I URGE YOU TO RETAIN AND VOTE AGAINST ANY THAT BURDEN OVERALL BURDENED PEOPLE. PASSES CAN BE LOST, STOLEN, OR MISPLACED, KEEPING PEOPLE OFF THE BUSES AWAY FROM SCHOOL, OUT OF HEALTH CENTERS AND APPOINTMENTS ARE UNNECESSARY AND CAN RESULT IN CRUEL AND DESPAIRED IMPACT. WE'VE MISSED APPOINTMENT AND SOCIAL MOBILITY OPPORTUNITIES ARE NOT FREE. THEY IMPACT LIVES AND COST SYSTEMS MONEY AND UNUSED CAPACITY OF STAFF AND RESOURCES THEIR SERVICES TO SERVE PEOPLE, TEACH PEOPLE OR EMPLOY PEOPLE THAT CAPACITY. THANK YOU. >> PETER. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCILLORS, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCILORS FOR SEEING THE PLIGHT OF THE GATEWAY NEIGHBORS AND GIVING VOICE TO THE BATTLE. WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING ESSENTIALLY ON OUR OWN. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN, FOR STANDING UP FOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS, THAT RECOGNIZING THAT ONLY TWO OUT OF THE FIVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS HAVE SIGNED THE GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD AGREEMENT. AND OF THOSE SIGNATURES, THEY'RE FROM PEOPLE THAT OCCUPY IN THE GATEWAY OR RECEIVE FUNDING IN THE PAST. DESPITE WHAT YOU HEAR FROM THEM, IN NO WAY AS THE CITY ACTED IN GOOD FAITH. WE APPRECIATE YOU RECOGNIZING THIS. ADDITIONALLY, PLEASE SUPPORT FUNDING FOR THE WEST SIDE SHELTER BEYOND THE CURRENT -- FOR FUTURE OPERATIONS AND UP GRADES TO THE FACILITY. IN DECEMBER 2020, FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES WROTE ME SAYING THEY ANTICIPATE THE EMERGENCY HOUSING SHELTER SHOULD REMAIN OPEN FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS. TWO YEARS HAS APPROACHED NOW. IN FEBRUARY 2020, THE ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL ARTICLE STATED THE NEW FACILITY WOULD REPLACE THE CITY'S EXISTING EMERGENCY SHELTER IN AN OLD JAIL ON THE FAR WEST SIDE. WE HOPE YOU WOULD UPGRADE THE WEST SIDE FACILITY RATHER THAN CLOSE IT AND TRANSFER 450 PERSONS FROM GATEWAY RESULTING IN OVER 700. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT. WE REALLY APPRECIATE COUNCILORS IF YOU ACTUALLY BROUGHT THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION. IT'S WONDERFUL TO HAVE SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY CARE. THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS. THERE'S A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE ON MONDAY JANUARY 23 AT 5 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THERE'S AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON FRIDAY JANUARY 20 AT 3 P.M. VIA ZOOM. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING. IN THE MATTER OF AC22-21 THE APPELLANT HAS WITHDRAWN HIS APPEAL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT WITH THE DRAWL IN THIS MATTER. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT MATTER CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. NEXT UP APPROVALS. EC199. THIS IS AWARD TO RECRUITING SOURCE INTERNATIONAL AND DAVID GOMEZ PARTNER FOR EXECUTIVE SEARCH SERVICES. I BELIEVE THIS WAS HELD OVER FROM THE LAST MEETING FOR FOLLOW UP. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL FOR DISCUSSION. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I THINK YOU WERE -- >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. YES, I AM. I ALSO HAVE MR. MENACUCCI WALKING IN THE GATE TO HELP AS WELL. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF MAKING SURE WE HAVE A FOCUS ON WHITE COLLAR EXECUTIVES AND ALSO HOPING WE HAD SOME WORDING IN HERE THAT HAS TO DO WITH BLUE COLLAR AND BOOTS ON THE GROUND. I'M GLAD TO HEAR WE HAVE THAT FOCUS ON WHITE COLLAR BECAUSE THOSE ARE SPECIALTY ITEMS THAT COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN BROUGHT UP. SHE'S ACTUALLY HAD A LIST. I'M GLAD THOSE ARE BEING LOOKED AT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE STILL NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ON HERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FILLING THE POSITIONS THAT CONTACT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE AND THAT'S THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND. CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND GIVE US A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, MY APOLOGIES WE WERE HAVING ANOTHER SIDE DISCUSSION. YOU'RE ASKING IN REFERENCE TO THE MEMO WRITTEN? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THAT'S CORRECT. >> THE AGREEMENT THAT COUNCILOR MET WITH DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND WHAT CAME OUT OF THE MEETING IS THEY DID COMMIT TO AND EXPLAIN EFFORT TO USE CONTRACTS TO MAKE EFFORTS TO GET PROFESSIONAL WHITE CALLER EMPLOYEES ON BOARD. SO, WHAT THEY DID IS ISSUED A MEMO AND THEY AGREED TO ISSUE A MEMO TO BASICALLY STATE IT TO SHOW HOW THEY STATE A RECORD, I THINK THAT'S ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE MEMO. THE SECOND SOINS OF THE HELP THE SECOND SENTENCE OF THE MEMO. IT SAYS, ON THE SECOND PARAGRAPH ON PAGE TWO OF THE MEMO. IT SAYS AS A METHOD OF TRACKING SUPPORT THAT THE STAFFING AGENCY PROVIDES WE'RE PREPARED TO PROVIDE REPORTING OF THE PERFORMANCE BY STAFFING AGENCY ON POSITIONS IDENTIFIED TO FULFILL CURRENT STATUS AND TIME TO FILL QUARTERLY. THIS ALLOWS TO PROVIDE COUNCIL A QUARTERLY REPORT ON HOW THESE AGENCIES AND HOW THE ADMINISTRATION IS DOING OR HOW THEY'RE PROCEEDING WITH FILLING THE WHITE COLLAR VACANCY POSITIONS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN BUDGET COMES AROUND WE'RE GOING TO GET IN THE WEEDS AND MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN REFERENCE TO MAKING SURE WE BOOTS ON THE GROUND POSITIONS FILLED. CORRECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU CAN DO, YOU MENTIONED HOW WE CAN IMPACT BLUE COLLAR. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THAT'S CORRECT. >> I SAID THIS METHOD OF TRACKING HELP THE COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS WHITE COLLAR WITH THE ARRIVAL OF THE BUDGET WE CAN ANSWER THE BUDGET PROCESS ASK HOW OVER THE PAST YEAR DID THE BLUE COLLAR HIRING PROCESS PROCEED? GET THAT REPORTING AND THAT CAN HELP GUIDE THE COUNCIL IF THEY LIKE TO WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL EFFORTS WITHIN HOUSE TO CONTINUE TO MAKE A ROBUST POINT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I FEEL SATISFIED THAT WE MET THE OBLIGATION. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS MATTER? SEEING NONE, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? GREAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT MATTER CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT UP IS EC208. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. EC208 IS THE MAYOR'S APPOINTMENT OF MR. ELMO ARCHULETA TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. I MOVE APPROVAL. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. BENTON: MR. ARCHULETA IS A DESIGN PROFESSIONAL. ENGINEERING AND BRINGS A LOT OF GOOD BALANCE TO THE COMMISSION IN THE SENSE OF IT IS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AND WE NEED TO HAVE THAT REPRESENTATION OF SOME FORM ON THE COMMISSION. I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT AND URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT MATTER? COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE ONE QUESTION. DOES HE LIVE IN ALBUQUERQUE? >>COUN. BENTON: MY UNDERSTANDING IS HE DOES NOT. I'M NOT COMPLETELY SURE. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. RAEL. SOMEWHERE IN THE REQUESTS WE SHOULD ASK FOR MICROPHONES. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I THOUGHT THAT WAS SOME KIND OF MESSAGE THAT I WORE OUT MY WELCOME EARLIER. >>COUN. DAVIS: TAKE IT AS YOU WILL SIR. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, HE LIVES OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS. IN A NEIGHBORHOOD RAN BY THE CITY. ONE OF THE LITTLE ENCLAVES. WE ASKED FOR YOUR SUPPORT SIMPLY BECAUSE WHAT COUNCILOR BENTON DESCRIBED. HE'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY. PRESIDENT OF THE MAJOR COMPANY HERE IN TOWN AND STILL EXISTS AND DOES GOOD WORK. APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. GROUT: IT'S OKAY THAT HE DOESN'T LIVE IN THE CITY? >> YES. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. I JUST WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION OF OUR STAFF. BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THE SOUTHWEST MESA IS VERY CHECKER BOARD. ONE SIDE OF THE STREET CAN BE CITY ONE SIDE CAN BE COUNTY. I HAVE ASKED THE QUESTION APPOINTING SOMEBODY AS DIFFICULT AS IT IS IN COMMUNITIES TO GET PEOPLE TO SERVE ON BOARDS, HEARING THIS IS JUST THE INFORMATION I'VE RECEIVED IS I CANNOT DO THAT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THE CITY, AS YOU KNOW HAS DOZENS OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SOME OF THEM HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENT FOR MEMBERSHIP. SOME OF THEM REQUIRE A POSITION THAT EITHER WORKS OR LIVES IN THE CITY OR LIVES IN THE DISTRICT. THOSE TYPES OF REQUIREMENTS EXIST WITHIN THE DIFFERENT ORDINANCES THAT CREATE THE SPECIFIC BOARDS. THE EPC IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. THEY HAVE TO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT. HOWEVER THE GENERAL RULE FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT LISTED IN THE CREATING ORDINANCE IS THEY SHALL NORMALLY LIVE IN THE CITY. THAT QUALIFIER NORMALLY GIVES LATITUDE IN THE EVENT SOMEBODY BRINGS EXCEEDINGLY GOOD QUALIFICATIONS TO OVERRIDE THE GENERAL REQUIREMENT THEY SHOULD LIVE IN THE CITY. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, THAT WOULD APPLY TO OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THEN? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, IT WOULD. AGAIN NOT ALL OF THEM. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A BOARD BY BOARD REVIEW OF WHAT THE SPECIFIC ORDINANCE THAT CREATED THAT BOARD SAYS WITH RESPECT TO MEMBERSHIP. SOME OF THE ORDINANCES DO HAVE THAT CRITERIA. SOME OF THEM DO NOT. FOR THE ONES THAT DO NOT, THAT'S WHERE THIS GENERAL PROVISION OF THE BOARDS COMES INTO PLAY. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I'M NOT OKAY WITH THE CITY PUTTING TURF IN RIO RANCHO AND PAYING FOR IT. AND I'M NOT OKAY WITH US HAVING COMMISSIONERS OUTSIDE OF ALBUQUERQUE IN THEORY. HERE WE ARE IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE'RE SAYING ALBUQUERQUE IS GREAT. AND YET WE'RE PUTTING STUFF IN OTHER CITIES AND GETTING COMMISSIONERS FROM OTHER AREAS. MAYBE HE IS GREAT, BASED OFF OF TONIGHT'S CONVERSATIONS I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT IF HE'S NOT GOING TO LIVE HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANYTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? SEEING NONE. THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THAT MATTER FAILS ON A 4-5. IS THAT RIGHT? WE HAVE A VACANCY ON THAT BOARD. NEXT UP, FINAL ACTIONS. COUNCILOR PEÑA AND COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES, I THINK WE HAVE MR. MENACUCCI AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MELD THREE DIFFERENT RESOLUTION AND ORDINANCES INTO ONE. AND THEN IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE'RE GOING TO DEFER IT. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU FOR HELP AND MAYBE I CAN PREFACE IT THAT WE HAVE A RESOLUTION LATER ON THIS AGENDA AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE BECAUSE I DIDN'T ASK THE QUESTION EARLIER, ARE WE GOING TO MELD THAT INTO THE TWO? OR DOES THAT ONE STAND ALONE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, COULD YOU REPHRASE THE QUESTION? >>COUN. PEÑA: WE HAVE THE SECURITY PLAN THAT WAS THE INITIAL RESOLUTION THAT WAS INTRODUCED. THAT'S ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING. AND WE HAVE MYSELF AND COUNCILOR LEWIS'S O-47. AND WE HAVE COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN O-62. ARE WE GOING TO MELD ALL THREE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA YES. BASICALLY O-2-47 THAT WAS INTRODUCED MELDED TOGETHER BOTH R-70 AND FIRST O-2-47. IT WAS INTRODUCED AND I ALREADY HAD THOSE MELDED. THIS LEGISLATION BRINGS IN O-62. ALTHOUGH, WITH THAT, THERE'S SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. >>COUN. PEÑA: CORRECT. DOES THAT MEAN R-70 WILL GET DEFERRED WITHDRAWN? >> MADAM CHAIR, THAT WOULD BE THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNCILORS. IT TAKES O-62 AND R-70 ARE DEALT WITH IN FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. AND IT'S YOUR CHOICE WHETHER YOU WANT TO DEFER. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. WOULD WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE O-47. I NEED A SECOND AND INTRODUCE THE FLOOR SUB. >>COUN. DAVIS: SEVERAL SECONDS. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. MR. PRESIDENT, I'M JUST WAITING FOR THE OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE FLOOR SUB. >>COUN. DAVIS: FOR THE RECORD FROM THE CLERK THIS IS GOING TO BE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE FOR TWO. FLOOR SUBSTITUTE NUMBER THREE. AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I GUESS I'LL START BY SAYING I KNOW WE HAD THE OTHER TWO ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING. GIVE EVERYBODY A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. I SUBMITTED R-70 AND THAT WAS FOR TRANSIT TACTICAL PLAN FOR SAFETY. AND TALKING TO COUNCILOR LEWIS WHICH I REALLY APPRECIATE HE WAS LIKE A PLAN IS GOING TO TAKE TIME WE HAVE SOME ISSUES LET'S ADDRESS THEM. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE HIS EFFORT TO TRY TO ADDRESS SAFETY ON THE BUSES. SO, THROUGH THAT COMMUNICATION OBVIOUSLY COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN INTRODUCED A DIFFERENT RESOLUTION AND I'M REAL HAPPY AND PLEASED TO SAY HOW GREAT TO COME TOGETHER. I THINK WE'RE ALL CONCERNED. WE ALL SUPPORT FREE FARES AND WE ALL SUPPORT SAFETY ON THE BUSES. HOW WE GET THERE, I THINK IT WAS DECIDED WE NEED TO PUT THE RESPONSIBILITY ON THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY KNOW ABOUT SAFETY AND PUT THE ONUS BACK ON THEM AND HAVE THEM BRING SOME MEASURES SO WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN PASS IN THE FUTURE. WITH THAT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT OF DEFERRING O-47 FLOOR SUBNUMBER THREE AND WE DEFER IT. I NEED TO DEFER IT. >>COUN. DAVIS: JUST TO CLARIFY. WE'RE GOING TO PASS TONIGHT'S FLOOR SUBSTITUTE AND DEFER THE NEW SUBSTITUTED BILL UNTIL FINAL ACTION? >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: THE MOTION WILL BE FOR THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE NUMBER THREE. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. I'M SORRY, COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I WOULD LIKE MR. MENACCUCI TO GIVE EXPLANATIONS TO THE CHANGES TO THE FLOOR SUBREGARDING THE PASS SYSTEM. WE DISCUSSED HOW THIS IMPLEMENTED THE TWO OTHER BILLS. THESE ARE IN THE BILLS. I'M ASSUMING THE OTHER BILLS WILL BE WITHDRAWN TONIGHT. AND THIS ENCOMPASSES THOSE. THERE WAS SOME CHANGES IN THIS BILL THAT THIS SUBSTITUTE SPECIFIES REGARDING A STUDY AND INTENT TO TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT A COMPLETE STUDY WITH A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED. AND MR. MENACUCCI, EXPLAIN HOW THAT STUDY TAKES PLACE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, BASICALLY WHAT THE BILL DOES IS IT FIRST OF ALL CONSOLIDATES THE TITLE SO IT'S A SHORTER TITLE. SECOND, IT CONSOLIDATES THE WHEREAS CLAUSES. THIRD, IT CLARIFIES EXEMPTIONS FOR WHO MAY BE IN THE TRANSIT BOARDING AREA. THOSE ARE AMENDMENTS ADDED TO O-62 LAST WEEK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AT O-62. THOSE PERSONS EXITING OR ENTERING A TRANSIT VEHICLE OR INTENT TO BOARD A TRANSIT VEHICLE. IT STATES THAT ZERO FARE WILL CONTINUE UNTIL THE 12-MONTH PILOT IS COMPLETED AND A STUDY TO CONTINUE WHETHER OR NOT TO CONTINUE ZERO FARES HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL AND IF THEY WAN TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM. THIRD IT REMOVES THE PASS I.D. PROGRAM AS MANDATED. INSTEAD, AS COUNCILOR LEWIS IS REFERRING TO, IT REQUIRES THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT IF IT RECOMMENDS TO CONTINUE THE ZERO FARE PROGRAM IT ALSO INCLUDES IN THE STUDY AN ANALYSIS OF FEASIBILITY OF THE PASS I.D. PROGRAM AND HOW IT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED. THE STUDY WHICH SHALL BE OVERSEEN FROM TRANSIT DEPARTMENT, METRO SECURITY DIVISION AND OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION AND COUNCIL SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND TECHNOLOGY SERVICE AND TRANSIT DEPARTMENT IS BENEFICIAL TO THE TEAM. WE ASK . >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, REALLY, I THINK THIS IS NOT ABOUT A STUDY THAT WOULD SAY THIS IS GOOD OR NOT. THIS IS REALLY TAKING A GOOD HARD LOOK WITH A VERY SPECIFIC DETAIL OF HOW A PASS SYSTEM COULD BE IMPLEMENTED WHICH TECHNICALLY THE DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY GONE A GOOD WAY TO DEMONSTRATE THAT AND SHOW THAT. I'M ASSUING THIS WOULD INCLUDE BEST PRACTICES FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY. THERE ARE PROGRAMS ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT DOESN'T HAVE SOME KIND OF A PASS SYSTEM WHERE THEY'RE NOT BEING ACCUSED OF MAKING CRIMINALS OUT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE. SO, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ABOUT THAT ISSUE. IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT HOW LIKE MANY OTHER CITIES AND HOW ALBUQUERQUE LIKE WE'VE ALREADY BEEN ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER COULD IMPLEMENT A FULLY SUCCESSFUL PASS PROGRAM LIKE THAT. I BELIEVE THAT THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE SETS THE DIRECTION FOR THAT. ULTIMATELY, THAT'S THE DECISION OF THE COUNCIL TO COME PACK -- BOOK AND HAVE VARIOUS OPINIONS AND DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT OR NOT. THAT IS THE INTENTION OF THE SUBSTITUTE CORRECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS CORRECT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR LEWIS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: TO BE HONEST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET EVERYTHING STRAIGHT. ON THE FLOOR SUBS AND THE BILL. IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN IT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. AND THEN HOW IT ALL BREAKS DOWN. I WANT TO KNOW HOW IT AFFECTS AND REMIND US WHAT THE OTHER FLOOR SUBS SO THE PUBLIC HAS THE IDEA OF HOW IT BREAKS DOWN. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, BASICALLY O-47, WITHOUT HAVING TO GO INTO A LONG -- FIRST OF ALL IT ESTABLISHES A FAIR PROGRAM AS A MANDATE. NOT A FAIR PROGRAM, A PASS PROGRAM. PASS I.D. PROGRAM. WITH THAT PASS I.D. PROGRAM YOU HAVE ZERO FARES ON TRANSIT. YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A PASS TO GET ON. IT THEN SET PARAMETERS TO MAKE IT AS ACCESSIBLE AS POSSIBLE. THAT ESTABLISHED CERTAIN I.D.s THAT WERE ALREADY PRESENT SUCH AS LICENSES AND VETERAN I.D. AND SCHOOL I.D. ETSETERATE THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED. IT THEN WENT FORWARD AND ALLOWED THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT AND COUNCILOR LEWIS REFERRED TO LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES AND IDENTIFY WAYS OF BEING ABLE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO DOWNLOAD A PASS ON THEIR PHONE OR GO TO COMPUTER OR DOWNLOAD A PASS TO GET ePASSES FROM THEIR PHONE OR PRINT OUT ON COMPUTER. IT LOOKED AT WAYS TO MAKE SURE WE WORKED WITH THE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES SO THEY COULD ALSO ASSIST IN USING THEIR FACILITIES TO DISTRIBUTE PASSES TO THEIR CLIENTS. THAT WAS THE MAJORITY OF THE PROGRAM. IT THEN RECOMMENDED, AND THIS IS WAS THE ORIGINAL R-70 PUT INTO IT. ALSO TWO SECURITY PLANS. ONE IS SHORT-TERM SECURITY PLAN. AND THAT SECURITY PLAN LOOKS AT QUICKLY THE TACTICAL PLAN IN PLACE TO START ADDRESSING SECURITY ON BUSES WORKING WITH APD AND METRO SECURITY AND THE ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY DEPARTMENT. TO GET A TACTICAL PLAN THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK WITHIN 30 DAYS. AND ALSO IT WOULD ESTABLISH A PROGRAM TO IDENTIFY THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONVICTED OF CAUSING CRIME ON THE BUS OF -- WHETHER IT BE A PERIOD TIME OR FOREVER IS TO BE DETERMINED. IT REQUIRED A LONG-TERM PLAN. THAT WAS TO LOOK AT THE IN-DEPTH OF TRYING TO CREATE A ROBUST TRANSIT SECURITY AGENCY. WHETHER IT'S A TRANSIT DEPARTMENT OR MIX OF APS AND TRANSIT AND APD. THAT WOULD BE A BEST PRACTICE REPORT AND HOW TO FUND IT. THAT WOULD BE A LONGER TERM PLAN. THAT WAS PRIMARILY O-2-47. O-62 CAME IN AND SAID WE'RE GOING TO START FUNDING TRANSIT SECURITY. $3 MILLION TOWARD THAT. IT LOOKED AT CLEANING UP AND FILLING UP SOME OF THE GAPS ON THE CURRENT TRANTS AND BOARDING ORDINANCE. AND BASICALLY TRIED TO MAKE SURE IT MADE IT CLEAR YOU CANNOT BE AT A BUS STOP UNLESS YOU'RE THERE FOR THE INTENT OF BOARDING A BUS OR TRANSIT STATION BOARDING AND RIDING A BUS. TRYING TO ADDRESS ISSUES OF CRIME. THOSE WERE THOSE TWO. WHAT THIS DOES IS THAT COMBINES THOSE TWO. ONLY MAJOR CHANGE IT MAKES IS THE CHANGES IN TRANSIT. IT DOES TWO THINGS. IT CHANGES THE TRANSIT MANDATE. OR TRANSIT FARE PROGRAM AND SAYS LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A STUDY. DO WE WANT TO GO WITH ZERO FARES AND FINISH THE PLAN AND PROCEED WITH THE STUDY OF HOW TO DO A PASS PROGRAM. IT WOULD HAVE TO COME FORWARD WITH A STUDY THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED VERY QUICKLY. THE STUDY WOULD HAVE TO SHOW A PLAN THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED. IT ALSO ADDS THAT IT LOOKS AT SUN VAN AND MAKES SUN VAN EQUITABLE. THEY WANTED TO SET A MANDATE TO ALLOW TO SELF-ATTEST TO BE ON SUN VAN. COME DOWN AND SIGN A PAPER AND DESCRIBE WHY YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR SUN VAN AND THEREFORE QUALIFY. THE SECOND THING IT DID WAS ALSO FOR ART AND SUN VAN TO BECOME ZERO FARE. WHAT 62 DOES IS KEEPS THOSE AND MAKES A FEW CHANGES. ONE, UNDER FEDERAL REGS WHAT WE READ AND READ THROUGH THE DOCUMENT OF THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS GOVERNING THIS. WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DETERMINE WAS THAT IT DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO SELF-ATTEST BUT IT DOES SAY THAT TRANSIT AGENCY SHOULD MAKE IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE. THIS WOULD CREATE A ONE-STOP VISIT FOR BEING ELIGIBLE FOR SUN VAN. THEY CAN COME DOWN TO SUN VAN AND ME INTERVIEWED ON-SITE BY A TRAINED TRANSIT PERSON. AND THEN BE QUALIFIED IF THEY MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GET DOCTOR'S NOTE. IF THEY HAD ENOUGH DOCUMENTATION TO PROVE. LIKE A DOCTOR'S CERTIFICATE THEY CAN BRING THAT IN AND USE THAT. THAT'S ALSO NOW IN FLOOR SUBSTITUTE THREE. SECOND THING IS ALSO THE ART AND SUN VAN ARE ALSO IN THERE AS ZERO FARES. WHAT THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT INFORMED US WAS THAT MOST LIKELY BE BEST AND WE SPOKE WITH THE SPOUNSERS THAT WE MIGHT REMOVE THAT FROM THAT BILL BECAUSE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS REQUEST THIS BEDERFERRED UNTIL WE ANALYSIS. INSTEAD THAT WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE BILL AND INTRODUCE A NEW SEPARATE BILL THAT SAYS THE ART AND SUN VAN WILL BE ZERO FARES AND IT WILL GO AND BE IN COMMITTEE FOR TWO MONTHS UNTIL THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT IS ABLE TO MEET WITH EQUITY. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE NOT HEARD IS HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE BUS DRIVERS? THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY DEAL WITH THE SECURITY ISSUES AND EVERYTHING GOING ON THAT'S TAKING PLACE ON THE BUS? I RECENTLY SPOKE TO TWO BUS DRIVERS AND I WANT THE COUNCIL TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT I JUST EXPERIENCED SPEAKING TO ONE OF THE BUS DRIVERS. HOPEFULLY THIS HAS SOME SORT OF BEARING ON THE WHOLE THING AS WELL. I SPOKE TO A BUS DRIVER THAT ACTUALLY WORKS ON A ROUTE IN ALBUQUERQUE. HE'S A HARDWORKING UNION INDIVIDUAL. AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE STATED WHEN HE RUNS HIS BUS ROUTE IS HE ONLY PICKS UP 13 PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO WORK. AND OTHER THAN THAT IT'S JUST OTHERS WHO ARE JUST SEEKING SHELTER OR GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B. IT'S NOT A LOT OF WHAT HE WAS SAYING, USEFULNESS IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU WOULD BE EXPECTING A BUS TO BE PROVIDING. ALSO HE SAID THAT THE BIGGEST ISSUE THEY FACE AS A BUS DRIVER IS THE FACT THAT WE HAD A SECURITY ITEM BUILT IN. THAT ITEM THAT WAS BUILT IN WAS THE FARE. WE ALWAYS HAD THE FARE AND THE FARE WOULD KEEP INDIVIDUALS FROM JUMPING ON THE BUS THAT OTHERWISE WOULD NOT HAVE GOT ON THE BUS. SOME OF THESE ARE THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT, THE INDIVIDUALS USING DRUGS ON THE BUS. HE SENT ME A PICTURE ON THE BUS WHO WAS USING FENTANYL. AND EVERY OTHER PERSON AFTER HIM WALKED THROUGH THE CLOUD OF BURNING PILLS. THAT TO ME IS AN EXTREME DANGER. FOR XB THAT'S GETTING ON THE BUS. AN INNOCENT PERSON THAT GETSEN THE BUS AND HAS TO WALK THROUGH A CLOUD OF FENTANYL IS BEING EXPOSED TO THAT DRUG. HE ALSO STATED THAT ANY KIND OF CHECKING I.D. OR ANY KIND OF COMMUNICATION EVEN JUST GETTING THE BUS PASS OR GETTING A BUS PASS SHOWN TO HIM THAT WE PASS THAT SECURITY PROBLEM WHEN WE ACTUALLY DECIDED TO IMPLEMENT NO FARES. THAT WAS ACTUALLY A SECURITY -- THAT HELPED WITH SECURITY. NOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IS WE'RE DEALING WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GOING TO BE IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH THE BUS DRIVER IF THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE ANY TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION OR HAVE TO SHOW ANYTHING. AT THAT POINT, THAT'S GOING TO PUT OUR BUS DRIVERS IN JEOPARDY. AND CAUSING A ONE-ON-ONE CONFRONTATION WITH THEM. RIGHT NOW, HE TOLD ME THAT LAST WEEK HE HAD AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS -- HE WAS DRIVING ASK THIS INDIVIDUAL PASSED OUT ON HIS BUS FROM USING FENTANYL. HE KNEW THEY WERE USING FENTANYL BECAUSE HE CAN SMELL THE PILLS BURNING WHICH IS ALSO EXPOSING THE BUS DRIVER TO THE PILLS BURNING. AND FENTANYL STAYS SUSPENDED IN THE AIR AND YOU CAN INGEST IT BY WALKING THROUGH THAT. THAT INDIVIDUAL REMAINED ON THE BUS, USED THE DRUG, THERE DRUG WAS ABLE TO TRANSFER TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHILE IT WAS STILL SUSPENDED IN THE BUS AND THEN HE ENDED UP HAVING TO PARK THE BUS AND WAIT FOR SECURITY FOR 45 MINUTES. THE ALTERNATIVE HE SAID IS TO DRIVE THAT BUS ALL THE DOWN TO THE TRANSPORTATION CENTER WHERE SOMEBODY FROM SECURITY COULD ASSIST. AT THAT POINT, IF HE DOES THAT, THEN HE EXPOSED EVEN MORE PEOPLE TO THAT BURNING PILL THAT'S INSIDE THE BUS. SO, BASICALLY THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT, ONE, WE ALREADY HAVE SECURITY IN TERMS OF HAVING A FARE, NOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE FARE, WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON SECURITY BEFORE WE CAN IMPLEMENT ANYTHING OTHER, ANY OTHER TYPE OF WAY TO PROVIDE ACCOUNTABILITY. THE BUS DRIVERS ARE VERY WORRIED ABOUT THEM BEING PUT IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH OR CONFRONT ANY INDIVIDUALS ON THE BUS FOR ANY CAUSE AT THIS POINT. AND WHAT WE NEED IS WE NEED A SECURITY PROTOCOL THAT GOES IN NOW AND HANDLES THOSE THINGS RIGHT UP FRONT. WEED NEED ENOUGH SECURITY ON THE BUS TO PROVIDE SECURITY FOR THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GETTING ON AND OFF THE BUS. THE PERSON WHOSE USING THE DRUGS IS ALSO AT RISK AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE BUS DRIVER AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A BUS DRIVER, IF YOU HAVE 30 INDIVIDUALS AND HE'S ACTUALLY BEING EXPOSED TO FENTANYL BURNING IN THE BUS, THEN YOU HAVE THAT ISSUE WHERE YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS IN CHARGE OF 30 OTHER PEOPLE IN THE BUS. SO, BOTTOM LINE, WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING AND THIS IS COMING FROM A BUS DRIVER, WE NEED TO PROVIDE SECURITY FIRST. KEEP THE ZERO FARES FOR NOW AND THEN ONCE WE GET THE SECURITY PROTOCOL TAKEN CARE OF AND THE BUSES ARE SAV -- SAFER WE IMPLEMENT SOME SORT OF OF PROJECT TO HELP OUT WITH THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND SORT OF A FAIR PROJECT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VOICES OF THE BUS DRIVERS WERE HEARD. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE AS COUNCIL TAKE THESE ITEMS INTO CONSIDERATION. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE SUN VAN QUALIFICATION. THE FEDERAL TRANSIT RULES ALLOW SELF-ATTEST TO ACCESS PARA-TRANSIT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE -- FS3 IS FEDERAL RULES DON'T NECESSARILY ALLOW FOR SELF-ATTEST. BUT THEY ALLOW FOR IS THE VERY SIMPLIFIED ENCOURAGEMENT. THAT'S THE ONE STOP, ONE VISIT SYSTEM. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT. OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FOLKS ARE A LITTLE CONFUSED. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THERE ARE THREE BILLS BEFORE US TONIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO COMBINE THEM ALL. THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE THAT COUNCILOR PEÑA HAS MOVED WOULD COMBINE ALL THREE OF THOSE BILLS. WE WILL BE WITHDRAWING THE OTHERS. WHAT THIS NEW FLOOR SUBSTITUTE DOES IS KEEPS THE ORIGINAL ZERO FARES PROGRAM IN PLACE THROUGH THE ENTIRE YEAR THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED TO GO. AND IT GIVES TIME AT THE END FOR TRANSIT TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF THAT PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT PROGRAM OR IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE SOMETHING ELSE. THE SECOND THING THAT THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE DOES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON IN A MINUTE IS INCREASE SECURITY. AND AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S POINT, THIS IS NEW FLOOR SUBSTITUTE INCLUDES ONE MILLION DOLLARS FOR SECURITY. IT CREATES A TRANSIT SECURITY PLAN. AND IT DOES THINGS LIKE MAKE TRANSIT SECURITY AN ACTUAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. IT GIVES THEM AUTHORITY TO DO THINGS WE NEED TO BE DONE WHICH ARE LIKE REMOVING DRUG USE FROM OUR TRANSIT DEPARTMENT. OR TRANSIT BUSES. THE THIRD THING IT DOES IS ALLOWS THE MOST STREAMLINED PROCESS POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE WHO RIDE THE SUN VAN SO THEY'RE NOT OVERLY BUD RND WITH HAVING TO APPLY AND FILL OUT FORMS AND GO BACK IN ANOTHER DAY. THIS IS WHAT I'M TOLD IS THE MOST STREAMLINED OPTION AVAILABLE UNDER FEDERAL LAW. AND THE FOURTH THING IT DOES IS CREATE A PLAN TO DO A STUDY ALONG WITH WHETHER FREE FARES WORKS OR NOT AT THE END OF THE ONE YEAR PILOT PROJECT THAT DOES WHAT COUNCILOR LEWIS WAS TALKING ABOUT. WHICH IS REVIEW WHAT COULD BE DONE WITH THE PASS PROGRAM AND IT'S GOING TO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THAT IS THE TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE. I DON'T THINK IT IS BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE. HOW ARE THE LOGISTICS WORKING. ALL OF THE THINGS WOULD BE IN A STUDY THAT WOULD BE GIVEN TO SO WHEN THE ONE YEAR OF THE ZERO FARES PILOT IS OVER COUNCIL HAS ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION MOVING FORWARD. THAT IS WHAT IS MOVING FORWARD IF WE MOVE THIS FLOOR SUBSTITUTE TONIGHT. I WANT TO THANK ALL THE SPONSORS AND OTHER COUNCILORS THAT HAVE WORKED ON THIS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND COME UP WITH A XHOOIZ -- COMPROMISE THAT MAKES SENSE AND ADDRESSES SOME MAJOR ISSUES. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I AGREE. I THINK THIS IS THE WAY TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE STUFF WE AGREED ON AND GET DATA AND SET A SCHEDULE FOR DETERMINING WHAT WE DON'T KNOW. OTHER QUESTIONS ON -- I'M SORRY, COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT. THE BILL -- I DON'T THINK WE REALLY SET THIS OUT. BUT THE DECISION MOVING FORWARD ON WHO WILL DO THAT STUDY, DID WE SPECIFY? WHO IS THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, BASICALLY IT WOULD START WITH THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT. THEY WOULD WORK WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: YEAH, I RECOGNIZE THAT. BUT NORMALLY YOU A THIRD PARTY OR A -- >> I THINK AT THAT POINT -- IT USUALLY PUTS TOGETHER A TECH TEAM AND THEY LOOK AT THAT. NEEDS ANALYSIS AND WHAT'S NEEDED. THAT CAN BE UNIN -- DONE IN HOUSE. >>COUN. LEWIS: IT COULD RESULT IN A CONSULTANT THAT HELP US GET THE DATA WE NEED? >> YES. AND MY UNDERSTANDING TOO IS THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE ON THE FIRM ON CONTRACT FOR OTHER PURPOSES. IT'S ONE OF THE WORLD'S LEADING TRANSIT RESEARCH FIRMS ALREADY ON CONTRACT. WHETHER THAT CONTRACT CAN BE EXTENDED OR SUPPLEMENTED, I DON'T KNOW. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'LL HAVE CHANCE TO REVIEW THE OBJECTIVES OF THAT STUDY WHEN WE GIVE IT TO THE CONSULTANT. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT AND FEASIBILITY AND IMPLEMENTATION AND BEST PRACTICES AND BE ABLE TO GET A FULL PICTURE. WE'LL BE INVOLVED IN SOME OF THE OBJECTIVES AS WELL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, YES STAFF WILL BE ON BOARD. AND IF THOSE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN TO STAFF WE CAN REQUEST WE GET AN EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION OR COUNSEL TO GIVE COUNSEL. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST ONE MORE THING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ONE VAN USERS, HOW ARE WE MAKING WITH THAT TO MAKE SURE OUR ELDERLY AND DISABLED ARE TAKEN CARE OF? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, ARE YOU REFERRING TO HOW THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THAT'S CORRECT. >> BASICALLY, WE LOOK UNDER FEDERAL LAW WHAT IT WOULD ALLOW IS THEY HAVE A SYSTEM IN THERE I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED -- REDUCE THE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN. AND THE EASIEST YOU SCHEDULE A MEETING AND THEY HAVE A PROCESS TO WORK WITH YOU. AND SEE WHETHER YOU'RE ELIGIBLE. IF YOU ALREADY HAVE SOME SORT OF PAPERWORK THAT'S ALREADY AVAILABLE AND YOU WOULD COME DOWN THAT WOULD BE A SHORT MEETING BECAUSE THE PAPERWORK SHOWING THAT YOU'RE AVAILABLE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> MR. PRESIDENT. I RECOGNIZE THAT THIS MAY GET DEFERRED TONIGHT. I DO WANT TO EXPRESS A CONCERN. WE DIDN'T GET THE BILL UNTIL LATE THIS EVENING. THAT'S WHEN OUR FOLKS REVIEWED WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN HERE. I WANT TO JUST RAISE ONE CONCERN THAT I DO THINK WE NEED TO WORK ON DURING THE COURSE OF THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. ON PAGE FOUR, IT APPEARS THAT WE ARE EXPANDING THE DEFINITION OF A PEACE OFFICER. IT ALSO INCLUDES TRANSIT SECURITY AND METRO SECURITY FOLKS ALONG WITH ANY OTHER PUBLIC OFFICIAL OR OTHERS VESTED WITH THE -- I THINK THAT'S REALLY A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO HOW WE DEAL WITH OUR GROUP. WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT. AND ACTUALLY COUNCILOR BENTON AND I TALKED THIS ON OCCASION. THAT IS A VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DO TODAY. THAT ALSO IS OF SOME CONCERN FROM A LIABILITY STANDPOINT. ASK OPERATIONAL AND THE LAST PIECE, COUNCILORS, THERE ARE SOME PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS OF HOW WE KEEP PEOPLE OFF BUSES BY PROVIDING A LIST OF FOLKS WHO ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO RIDE ON THE BUSES. I THINK FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT MAY BE DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE IN THAT WE REQUIRE A FACIAL RECOGNITION AND A NAME FOR A TRANSIT OPERATOR TO KNOW WHO IS COMING IN AND WHO IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO RIDE THE BUS. I THINK THERE ARE SOME ISSUES. ON THE WHOLE, I WANTED TO RAISE THOSE TWO CONCERNS BECAUSE I THINK OUR TRANSIT FOLKS WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN WITH THE COUNCIL STAFF TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE CHANGES. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. THE INTENT IS TO GET THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. NONE OF THESE ARE NEW. THEY'RE ALL THE PIECES HERE. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WITH QUESTIONS HOW DO WE VERIFY IS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP AROUND O-47. SO WE'RE DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO GIVE US TECHNICAL EXPERTISE AND ANSWERS TO THAT. RELATING TO THE PEACE OFFICER, THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT NEW, IT WAS IN THE LANGUAGE OF O-62 AND BEEN AROUND FOR SIX WEEKS. WE ARE HAPPY TO REVISIT IT. IT WAS A PROVISION THAT FOLKS IN THE ADMINISTRATION HAD SUPPORTED FOR A WAY TO BE SURE THAT IF SOMEONE WERE TO ASSAULT A SECURITY OFFICER THERE WAS A WAY TO ENFORCE THAT RULE. WE WOULD LOVE TO REVISIT WITH THAT. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT NOTHING IN THIS SUBSTITUTE IS NEW. IT'S PIECES THAT HAS BEEN OUT FOR SIX WEEKS. WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT IT. IF WE EVER GET THERE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF FLOOR SUBSTITUTE NUMBER THREE. SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. ANY OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILOR PEÑA, BACK TO YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST REITERATING WHAT EVERYBODY SAID. I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COME TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH A GOOD COMPROMISE THAT REALLY ADDRESSES EVERYONE'S CONCERNS. I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR BASSAN. I THINK THIS IS A HUGE WIN FOR OUR SUN VAN RIDERS. I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE VERY EXCITED ONCE -- WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO, BUT I THINK THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS I THINK WE UNVEILED SOME ISSUES THAT WE HAD WITH SUN VAN. I'M PLEASED WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR DEFERRAL OF FLOOR SUBSTITUTE 3. >>COUN. DAVIS: THERE'S SEVERAL SECONDS. THAT IS UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING? >>COUN. PEÑA: YES, TWO WEEKS. >>COUN. DAVIS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT MATTER CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'LL SEE IT AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS. I'M SORRY, WE DO HAVE A FEW FOLKS SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WHY DON'T WE HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT, IF ANYONE WANTS TO RECONSIDER THE MOTION TO DEFER WE'LL DO THAT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST UP ON ZOOM WE HAVE ALTHEA, FOLLOWED BY PATRICK. >> HI, COUNCILOR DAVIS, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, KRM A BOARD MEMBER OF THE VICTORY HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. TRANSPORTATION CHAIR OF THE DISTRICT SIX COALITION. A MEMBER OF THE ALBUQUERQUE BUS RIDERS UNION AND AN EXPECTING PARENT WHO IS EXCITED TO RAISE MY CHILD ON THE BUS. I HAVE NOT GOT A CHNS TO LOOK AT THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. IT SOUNDS DIFFERENT THAN THE ONES ON THE AGENDA. I HAVE HESITATIONS ABOUT IT. I DON'T THINK WE NEED A FEASIBILITY STUDY ON THE PASS SYSTEM. I THINK ZERO FARE IS WORKING GREAT AS IT IS. AT A TIME WHEN THE ALBUQUERQUERIDE SYSTEM IS PLANNING TO PROVIDE SERVICES DUE TO LACK OF BUS DRIVERS WE SHOULD NOT BE ADDING BURDENS TO THE ALREADY TAXED AND UNDER COMPENSATED BUS DRIVERS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US COMMIT TO HAVING LARGER INCREASE OF PAY TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH LARGER CDL JOBS. I'VE BEEN TALKING TO BUS DRIVERS OVER THEALIST FEW WEEKS ABOUT HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE BILL. I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE IF WE TAKE ZERO FARE AWAY. AND ANOTHER BUS DRIVER THAT I FOLLOW ON TWITTER TWEETED ALL THE MONEY THEY WANT TO SPEND ON TECHNOLOGY ASK THE HOOPS THEY WANT TO GET A FREE PASS ARE POINTLESS. SKIP ALL THAT AND LET'S LEAVE THE FARE FREE. ALSO THE TRANSIT ADVISORY BOARD ASKED FOR A COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY PLAN THAT WAS COMMUNITY-BASED. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TEXT OF THIS BILL WHICH I'LL GO THROUGH WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB WILL ALLOW THE ACS TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND AND HAVE LAY PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE TO BE CUSTOMER SERVICE PEOPLE ON THE BUS AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE DISTRICT SIX COALITION MEETING. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF CHALLENGES. I'M REALLY CONCERNED HOW THIS IS GOING TO GET MELDED TOGETHER. I LOOK FORWARD TO READING IT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. >> PATRICK FOLLOWED BY SARAH. >> THANK YOU, A FEW MONTHS AGO I SPOKE ABOUT MY NEGATIVE FIRST EXPERIENCE TRYING TO USE TRANSIT IN ALBUQUERQUE BECAUSE THAT WAS SPOILED BY NON-FUNCTIONAL MACHINES. I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE REVERSE SITUATION. THIS PAST OCTOBER MY PARENTS VISITED ME IN ALBUQUERQUE AND WE TOOK THE BUS FROM NOB HILL TO THE RAIL RUNNER AND BACK. AND EVEN NOW A MONTH LATER MY PARENTS STILL TALK ABOUT HOW EASY AND CONVENIENT IT WAS TO GET ON THE BUS AND HOW THEY COULD JUST WALK ON BOARD AND GET ON THE BUS AND OFF WE WENT. IT WAS EASY FOR ME TOO. I DIDN'T HAVE TO APPLY FOR A PASS FOR THEM AHEAD OF TIME. UNDER WHAT MIGHT BE THE FREE PASS SYSTEM. I DIDN'T HAVE TO DO ANY PREPARATION FOR WHATEVER TRANSIT WE WANTED TO USE IN THE CITY. SO, THERE'S LOTS OF REASONS WHY ZERO FARE IS GREAT. THERE'S THE EQUITY CONCERNS. ALSO IT JUST MAKES THE TRANSIT SYSTEM SO MUCH MORE CONVENIENT FOR PEOPLE TO USE. SO, I REALLY HOPE THAT WHEN THE COUNCIL CONTINUE LOOK FOR MAKING THE TRANSIT SYSTEM WORK BETTER, KEEPING ZERO FARES IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF DOING THAT. >> SARAH FOLLOWED BY ROSEMARY. >> THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE CONCEPT. MAKING LIFE EASIER FOR CITIZEN VISITORS OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND HAVING ZERO FARES AND EVEN EXTENDING IT TO THE ART SYSTEM IS A VERY POSITIVE STEP. IT TELLS PEOPLE THEY'RE WELCOME TO BE HERE. IT HELPS PEOPLE GET AROUND THE CITY. PASSES DO NOT STOP CRIME. AND THAT'S JUST COMMON SENSE. IT MAY HELP YOU TRACK CRIMINALS, BUT IF YOU ENGINEER A PASS SYSTEM THAT REQUIRES ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE OF WHO GETS ON A BUS AND WHERE THEY GET ON THE BUS AND WHERE THEY GO AND WHAT THE BUS NUMBER IS AND WHAT THE ROUTE NUMBER IS AND WHAT TIME OF DAY, THAT'S ALMOST SURVEILLANCE. AND I TRULY HOPE WE DON'T GO THERE. WE WANT TO MAKE ALBUQUERQUE A MODERN, COMFORTABLE, WELCOMING CITY. AND NOT TRUSTING PEOPLE ENOUGH TO RIDE A BUS DOES NOT STOP FENTANYL USE. IT DOES NOT STOP PETTY CRIME. IT DOES NOT STOP PEOPLE DRIVING. IT'S ALL OF THESE THINGS. WE WANT OUR SYSTEMS. PLEASE MAKE IT SIMPLE. MAKE IT FRIENDLY. MAKE IT EQUITABLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ROSEMARY. >> OKAY. I CAN'T START MY VIDEO BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE HOST STOPPED IT. SO, YOU DON'T GET TO SEE MY CAT. OKAY, SHE CAME BACK. I SPOKE ON THE EARLIER PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. AND I STATED WE DO NEED SAFE PUBLIC TRANSIT. HOWEVER WE DO NOT NEED PUBLIC TRANSIT THAT CREATES -- BY EXCLUSIONS, PLAGUED BY STEREOTYPES. WE DO NOT NEED TO INCREASE THE WAYS IN WHICH WE CRIMINALIZE PEOPLE. WITH NO PLACE TO GO OR WITH A DIFFICULTY NEGOTIATING SYSTEMS. EITHER ELECTRONICALLY OR IN PERSON. AS YOU CONSIDER THESE NEWLY COMBINED AND REFINED ORDINANCES I URGE YOU TO ALTER TO SOME EXTENT THE LANGUAGE OF THE ENFORCEMENT AND REMOVAL TO PROVIDE ALSO FOR ASSISTING PEOPLE. WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE MEETING THE FREE PASS REQUIREMENT. OR THE NO HANGING OUT AT THE BUS STOPS LANGUAGE. ESPECIALLY WHO ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO AND WHEN TO BE THERE TO GET THE FREE BUS RIDES OR WHERE THEY NEED TO GO. I THINK WE WILL HAVE A SAFER AND MORE COMMUNITY-FRIENDLY TRANSIT SYSTEM IF WE FACTOR IN HELPERS FOR WANT OF A BETTER WORD WHO CAN ASSIST PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP FACILITATING A TRANSIT REQUIREMENTS AND BUILD A SAFER BUS STOP ENVIRONMENT BY THEIR PRESENCE. OF COURSE ON-SITE HELPERS WOULD NEED BACK UP FOR SITUATIONS THAT MIGHT ARRIVE. WAL-MART HAS BEEN A DOING A VERSION OF THIS FOR YEARS. A TOTALLY UNTHREATENING PERSON WITH BACK UP SECURITY IF NEEDED. YOU MIGHT FIND THAT FRIENDLY AND SAFE GO TOGETHER. >> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCILORS, IF COUNCILORS IS THEY'RE ANYBODY THAT NEEDS TO GO BACK? >>COUN. LEWIS: I WON'T RECONSIDER. CAN I MAKE COMMENTS SINCE WE DID HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT? I JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GET THE IDEA THAT OUR BUS SYSTEM IS CLEAN AND SAFE AND RIDERSHIP IS UP AND BUS DRIVE SKWRZ HAPPY AND EVERYTHING IS WONDERFUL. BECAUSE THAT JUST COULD NOT BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ MENTIONED SOME SCENARIOS, I RODE THE BUS ONE TIME IN 20 YEARS. SO, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO THINK THAT YOU RIDE THE BUS ONE TIME AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EXPERIENCE. I WISH THAT WAS THE CASE. I HAD AN EXPERIENCE WHERE TWO CASES OF PEOPLE USING FENTANYL ON THE BUS WHEN I RODE IT. BUS DRIVER HAD TO STOP AND ASK THE PEOPLE TO STOP USING FENTANYL. TALKING TO A PERSON WHO SAID HE WAS HOMELESS AND HE SAID I DON'T FEEL SAFE ON THIS BUS. SO, THE BUS STOPS WERE DIRTY. IT WAS NOT A GOOD EXPERIENCE. AND I LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY YOU HAD A FREAK RIDE. THAT WAS A -- YOU WENT AT THE WRONG TIME. BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. THERE'S STORY AFTER STORY OF BUS DRIVERS WHO ARE UNHAPPY THAT ATTRIBUTE THAT TO THE WEREN'T WAY WE'RE RUNNING THINGS. PEOPLE SAY THE BUS STOPS ARE DIRTY AND BUSES ARE DIRTY. I CAN'T RCOMMEND MY OWN FAMILY RIDE THE BUS, SO WHY AS A CITY COUNCILLOR WOULD I RECOMMEND ANYBODY RIDE THE BUS IF I CAN'T RECOMMEND MY OWN FAMILY? PEOPLE AREN'T CHOOSING TO GIVE UP THEIR CARS AND LET'S GO TAKE THE BUS. WE'RE NOT ACCOMPLISHING THE PURPOSE. WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH THE TRANSIT SYSTEM IN ALBUQUERQUE. RIDERSHIP IS NOT UP. IT'S DOWN 33% FROM 2019 PRE-PANDEMIC. I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE DATA THAT SHOWS THIS CURRENT PROGRAM HAS CONTRIBUTED TO MORE RIDERS ON THE BUS. THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE PASS PROGRAMS. OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE FARE PROGRAMS AND PEOPLE DON'T CLAIM THOSE CITIES AND THE POLITICIANS AND THE PEOPLE THAT IMPLEMENTED THE TAXPAYERS THAT APPROVED THOSE FARE SYSTEMS AND PASS SYSTEMS ARE MAKING CRIMINALS OUT OF PEOPLE, ARE RACIST, OR IN ANY WAY TREATING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY THAN ANYWHERE ELSE. YET SOMEHOW THAT'S CONTINUALLY A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. THIS IS SERIOUS, ABSOLUTELY SERIOUS, I THINK THIS BILL ADDRESSES A LOT OF THINGS. AND I THINK WE COULD PASS THIS BILL, BUT IT IS UP TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE TRANSIT DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THESE THINGS AND TO EXECUTE THE VERY BEST POSSIBLE WAY WE CAN SERVE THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. PROBABLY BE A FEW WEEKS BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN. I DO APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. AND I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE EMAILS AND THE MANY PEOPLE FROM THE BUS DRIVERS AND FROM MANY PEOPLE WHO EXPRESSED MANY, MANY CONCERNS AND MANY THAT ARE JUST DESPERATE CONCERNS ABOUT OUR SYSTEM RIGHT NOW. >>COUN. PEÑA: KNOWING THERE WAS PEOPLE SMOKING ON THE BUS -- SMOKING FENTANYL ON THE BUS. I WOULD LIKE TRANSIT TO LOOK AT A POLICY. IF THERE'S A BUS DRIVER AND HE'S EXPOSED TO FENTANYL SHOULD HE CONTINUE ON THE BUS? I THINK IT'S A LIABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO GET ON THE BUS IT WE DON'T NOTIFY THERE'S FENTANYL SMOKE. AS HE STATED YOU CAN OD FROM THE SMOKE. THAT'S A VERY SERIOUS CONCERN. I THINK I'D LIKE TO HEAR BEFORE WE COME BACK IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS SOMETHING IN RELATION TO THAT. AND JUST ANOTHER COUPLE COMMENTS. I'LL BE BRIEF. BUS DRIVER PAY, AND HEARD APS BUS DRIVERS GET PAID MORE THAN CITY BUS DRIVERS. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET I'D REALLY LIKE TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT. AND THEN LAST BUDGET CYCLE, I HAD PUT AN AMENDMENT WITH THE SUPPORT OF THIS COUNCIL TO ADD THREE ADDITIONAL BUS STOP MAINTENANCE WORKERS. AND THE COMBINED FUNDING IT SAYS WOULD BRING US UP TO -- IF THE MONEY HAS NOT BEEN USED FOR THE THREE ADDITIONAL ON TOP OF THE NUMBER WE'VE BEEN GIVEN, WHAT'S THAT MONEY BEING USED FOR? THOSE ARE A FEW QUESTION FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. WITH THAT, I WOULDN'T MOVE TO CHANGE MY MOTION. >>COUN. DAVIS: CLRZ, ANY OTHER QUESTION . >>COUN. DAVIS: WE'RE GOING TO MOVE O-62. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO MOVE WITHDRAW O-62. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'LL SECOND. THIS IS BECAUSE WE ROLLED O-62 INTO THE THIRD VERSION OF 0-47. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE WITH DRAWL? THAT MATTER CARRIES. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, O-64 IS AMENDING CHAPTER FIVE ARTICLE FIVE OF THE REVISED ORDINANCES OF ALBUQUERQUE THE PUBLIC PURCHASES ORDINANCE RELATED TO DEFINITIONS PREFERENCES EXEMPTIONS AND PURCHASES OF SOFTWARE. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I KNOW THERE'S SOME AMENDMENTS IN THE iPAD. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'LL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. I'LL READ IT. IT'S QUICK. ON PAGE 12 LINE REMOVE THE STRIKE THROUGH. ON 12 REMOVE THE LANGUAGE BRACKET. AND ON PAGE 12 REMOVE THE STRIKE THROUGH. ON PAGE 13 REMOVE STRIKE THROUGH. THIS ALLOWS CHANGES TO THE PUBLIC PURCHASE ORDINANCE RELATE TODAY THE PAY EQUITY REPORTING PROCESS. THE AMENDMENT MAINTAINS THE PAY EQUITY REQUIREMENTS AS OUTLINED IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. I WANT TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, THE COUNCIL YEARS AGO, SOME OF YOU WERE HERE, AND THIS IS BEFORE I WAS HERE, PASSED A PAY EQUITY ANALYSIS TO ENSURE THEY'RE PAYING MEN AND WOMEN ECUALUALLY. WE REVISED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES. I RECOGNIZE AND THE PURCHASE DEPARTMENT AND I HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS, I RECOGNIZE THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS HAS GOTTEN A LITE CUMBERSOME. PARTICULARLY FOR SMALL VENDORS THAT DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO DO IT. IT'S IMPORTANT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE MAINTAS TO PAY OMEN ECUALUALLY OUR INTENT IS TO ENSURE WE INTAIN THE PROVISION AND WK WITH THE AINISTRATION TO MODERNIZE THAT. SO WE ACTUALLY GET USABLE DATA OUT OF IT. SORRY THAT'S A LONG EXPLANATION. I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND I DON'T THINK THE ADMINISTRATION'S INTENT WAS TO GT RID OF PAY EQUITY. AND WE DN'T WANT TO REINFORCE A SYSTEM EVERYBODY TES. WE NEED TO KEEP IT IN THE BIL SO I HAVE TIME TOORK ON IT. QUESTIONS? OR MS. YARRA? [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> ALL RIGHT. MR. PRESENT, THANK Y FOR THAT EXPLANATION. AND I THINK YOU' RIGHT . WE JUST WANT TO TAKE A STEP BAC FROM THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE VEORS SUBMIT THAT FORM EVE TIME THEY HAVE AN RFP SUBMITTAL. IT DOES GET CBERSOME F SMALLER BUSINSES WHO D'T HAVE THE MEANS TO GET TAT FORM FILLED OUT. THE CASE IS THA LESSHAN A HANDFUL OF VENDORS W WE COLLECTEDATA FROM ACTALLY CERTIFY FOR PAY EQUITY. IT'S MOR EFUL TO LOOK AT T DATAE'VE COLLECT AND OTHER SOURCES OF DATA TO SEEHER THINGS ARE ATND HOW WE CAN MAKE CHANGS TO COMPEL OUR VENDORSO NANE THE PAY EIT RUCTURE. AS YOU KNOW W AO HA SO INADVERTENT PAY EQUITY DISPARITI THATE'RE WORKG ON OURSELVES. I'D REALLY TLIEK - LIKE TO FOC OUREFRTS. >>CO. DAVIS: THANKYO IT'S GOODO SEE YOU CK. OTER ESTIONS? UNCILOR BASS. >>COUNBAAN: MR. PRESIDEN, AM I -- IT' A LOTO PUT BAC IN JUSTEAD . ADMINISTRAON IS IN AGRMENT WI THE AMENDME TOUT ALL TH BACIN? MR. ESIDENT,OUILOR BASSAN, FOR TIGHT WE WOULD LIKE IFT MAKES IT EIER THE HE ELEMENTS OF TIS CNGE WE DOEE TO GO FORRD WITH. IF WEAN GO AAD AND -- IF THE CNCIL WISSOAS THIS AMENDMENT. I WOULDIKE TOEEPHE CONVERSATION OPEN ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING T CNGE TE P EQUIY PROGRAM GOI FOARD. >>COUN. BAAN: TNK YOU. THK YOU, DIRECTO MR. PRESIDENT, I JT --'M IN IF EVERYDY I ON T SE PA WITH THA CHGE. SOUNIKE A DFERRAL -- BECAUSE THIS I SIGNIFICANT ENOUGHHA I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'R BINGQUABLE NOT EI TOO CUMBERSO. IEFINITELY HAPPY T KEEP THE CONVERSATION ONF YOU LE TO REACH OUT T ME, INVITE YOUO DOSO >>COUNDAS: IGE WH BY LEANGHE PAY EITY PROVISION IN THE PCHASING ORER I LVES THE PORTIONF E CURNTROGRAM WRE IT IS IT DOESN'T CHAE INYBODY INHEROCESS O WHEREE A. WE DON' NEED WHOLE BUNCH OF LANGUAGE. AGREED WEED AETR RESOTION. BUTO HOLHE PURCHASG UP. I THIN W AL AE IT NEEDS TO E DO. WE DON'TEED AHOLE BUN OF EXTRAANAGE TO S UP TE COMMITTEE A GT IT DONE. I TST WE C DO. COUN. BASSAN: M PRESIDT, JU WANT TO HEAROU WE'RE GOING TO REVISI REDNGHIS ORNACE AGA. >>COUN. VI JU THEAY UITY PART. >>COUN. LEWIS:OE E, T ADMINIRAON ROMMENDED THIS ORIGINALLY TSE STRIKEROUGHS? DI YOU RECMEND THIS BEON ON THIS BILL? >> MR. PRESEN COUNCILOR LEWIS S WEECOMMEND THE STRIKETHROUGHS HP SO CAN REEVUE THE PROGRAM D STOP COLLECTING DATA FOS. ITOSTS MY DEPTME AOUT 0,000 A ARO DO THAT. COUNLEWIS: FORINNCIAL REASONS,UT ALSO BECAU Y PROBABLYEL LE BY SIKING THATANAGE IT WLDN'T -- YOU'RE JST TKI ABOUT PAPERWKANDURER HDRANCES TO THE OCESS, NOT GNG AGAINST THEITY LA A REQUIREMENTS O EITY ITHAT WAY. YOU'RE JT - I JUST WANT T MA SURE THIS I THE ADMINISTRAON RECOMMENDATIO T AMENDMENTS CANCEIN SOME OF OSE STRIKETHROHS >>R. ESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEIS, THAT'S ECTLY CORREC ' TRYING TOET ITEMOVED FROM THRDINCE SO C THINK ABOT CNS THE PROGRAM AND STOP COLLECNGHE FORM REALLY. I HAD ROMMENDED THE STRIKEOUT. IF IT MKE IT EIE TONIGHT, THERE ARE OTHER ELEMENTS IN THE BILL WEOULD LIKE TO FORWD. IF WEAN REMOVE THISART WITH THE AMENDMENT A TK ABOUT IT LATER,HAT WOULD BE M PREFERENCE. >>COUN. LEWI OKAY. THANK YOU. GUESS,R. PRIDENT, IT'S A DIMMA BECAUSE THIS I SOMETHING I ONE OF TH UNCILORS TO INTROCE A BILL THE ADMINISTRION IS INTRODINGHIS AND SING THIS ISEALLY WHAT WE WAN AND NEED BUT FOR TO COME BACK AND SAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET THIS BUT NOT THESE FEW INGS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT. THAT DSN'T SEEM EAL EITHER. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, IUST WANT TO MENTION AT THISAY EQUITY CNGE W A LAST MINUTE ADDITION TO THE ORDINCE AMENDMENT. WE HAD BEEN WORKING ON THE OTHER CHANGES FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I APOLOZE THAT WEIDN'T THINK THAT THROUG >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, M PRESIDENT. I WAS WANTING TO MAKE A COMMENT. DIDN'T WE -- ARET WE DEALING WITH A MASSIVE LAWSUIT IN REFERENCE T PAY EQUY FOR WOMEN AND MEN? IT'S JUST CONFUSING TT WE'D EVEN BE REAING THERE. I THINK IT'S IMPTANT THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE THE EQUITY AND WE KEEP THATQUITY I LINE IN EVERYTHING WE DO ALL T TIME. BUT TT BIG LAWSUIT WRE PAYING T, I THINK IT'S THE BIGGEST LAWSUITE'VE EVER HAD TO DEA WITH. I THINK WE ND TO STAY WITH OUR UITY. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANYTHINGLSE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? UNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, JUST TO CLOSE SORT OF, MS. YARR, PLEASE LET'S MAKE SURE TO REVISIT THIS. BECAUSE IUPPORT -- IT IS EASIER TO LEAVE IT IN THAN TRY TO ADD IT BK LATER. I TOTALLY RESPECT THAT. AT THE SAME TIME I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME GOOD REASONING HERE AND THERE. GET READY, WE'RE DOING ANOTHER ONE. IF WE CAN PLEASE REVISIT THIS TO FIGURE OUT AND CHECKING IT CROSSING ALL THE Ts AND DOTTING THE Is. I DON'T WANT TO FORGET TO DO THAT. >> I'D LIKE TO REVISIT THIS BEFORE THE BUDGET IS DONE. >>COUN. DAVIS: I THINK SHE'S NOT GOING TO LET US FORGET THIS. I'M CONFIDENT OF THAT. COUNCILOR BASSAN, AS OUR BUDGET CHAIR, I KNOW THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY RELATED TO PURCHASE, I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU OR ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I KNOW SHE WON'T LET US FORGET IT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A BURDEN TO ADMINISTER. OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I FORGOT WE'RE DOING THE AMENDMENT. NOW I URGE YOUR SUPPORT AS AMENDED. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF O-64 AS AMENDED SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT CARRIES. THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS O-64. AMENDING THE POLICE OVERSIGHT ORDINANCE. WHOEVER WANTS TO TAKE THIS FIRST. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, O-67 IS AMENDING IT POLICE OVERSIGHT ORDINANCE OF THE REVISED ORDINANCES OF ALBUQUERQUE. I MOVE A DUE PASS. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE IN YOUR iPADS. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND BY COUNCILOR BENTON. DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THE SUB? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR MS. KUDAWN TO USE HER EXPERTISE IN THIS. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR BASSAN, TO SUMMARIZE THE BILL ITSELF AND WHAT'S CONTAINED IN THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE IT PROPOSES SEVERAL AMENDMENTS TO THE POLICE OVER SIGHT ORDINANCE WHICH GOVERNS THE CPOA AGENCY AND BOARD. FIRST THE AMENDMENT WOULD CHANGE THE SIZE OF THE BOARD FROM A NINE-MEMBER BOARD TO FIVE MEMBER. AND THE TERM ADVISORY WOULD BE ADDED TO THE BOARD'S TITLE CONSISTENT WITH THE BOARD'S INTENDED FUNCTION. IT'S THE CIVILIAN POLICE ADVISORY BOARD. AS PART OF THIS PROCESS ALL SEATS ON THE BOARD WOULD BE VACANT UNTIL REFILLED THROUGH THE COUNCIL'S APPOINTMENT PROCESS. EXISTING BOARD MEMBERS COULD REAPPLY IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE NEW BOARD. THE AIM OF THE CHANGES IS TO CLARIFY THE BOARD'S ROLE AND ALLEVIATE SOME CHANGES WITH THE EXISTING BOARD STRUCTURE TWO LONG-STANDING ISSUES. THE ORDINANCE SEEKS TO ADDRESS ANOTHER RECURRING CHALLENGES WHICH IS THAT THE VOLUNTEER BOARD IS BEING ASKED TO ENGAGE IN UPPER LEVEL MANAGEMENT OF CITY STAFF MEMBERS. THESE AMENDMENTS CLARIFY THAT THE BOARD'S MAIN OBJECTIVES IS TO CONDUCT COMMUNITY-BASED REVIEW OF CERTAIN CIVILIAN COMPLAINTS AND REVIEW OF POLICE POLICIES. THE MANAGEMENT AND RESPONSIBILITIES WOULD BE DELEGATED TO AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR RETAINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. THE CONTRACT COMPLIANCE OFFICER WHO WOULD BE TASKED WITH MONITORING AND TRACKING CPOA COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPLIANCE OF THIS ORDINANCE AND CASA. THE CCO WOULD INTERVIEW CANDIDATES FOR THE DIRECTOR TO CONDUCT THE ANNUAL PERFORMANCE REVIEW AND ESTABLISH THE DIRECTOR'S COMPENSATION IN COMPETITION WITH OTHER FOLKS IN THE PROCESSES. OTHER PIG TICKET OTHER BIG TYKET ITEMS INCLUDE THE DIRECTOR IS NO LONGER LIMITED TO A THREE-YEAR TERM. THE CPOA WILL SELECT LEGAL COUNSEL FROM CITY LEGAL CONFLICT COUNCIL LIST. COMMUNITY POLICING WOULD BE FOLDED INTO PROCESSES INTO CONDUCTING REVIEW FROM PROPOSAL AND RECEIVING CPOA FINDING AND RECOMMENDATION ON CIVILIAN POLICE COMPLAINTS. BOARD MEMBERS WOULD ALSO RECEIVE AN HONORARIUM FOR COMPLETING TRAINING REQUIREMENTS AND A STIPEND FOR REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD. OTHER MINOR MODIFICATIONS THROUGHOUT, MOSTLY CLEAN UP AND CLARIFICATION. THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE INCLUDES ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS MOST NOTABLY THAT THE DIRECTOR IS NO LONGER TO OBTAIN BOARD APPROVAL BEFORE ISSUING DISCIPLINARY RECOMMENDATION. AND THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE SENT TO THE OFFICE OF POLICE REFORM INSTEAD OF THE CHIEF BECAUSE THE OFFICE OF POLICE REFORM HANDLES AND HAS THE FINAL SAY IN POLICE DISCIPLINARY MATTERS. ADDITIONALLY, THE PORTION OF THE APD ACADEMY TRAINING THAT MEMBERS ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE ARE LISTED IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF. IT CURRENTLY SAYS BOARD MEMBERS HAVE TO COMPLETE PORTIONS THAT APD DEEMS NECESSARY FOR ADDITIONALLY TRANSPARENCY OF WHAT THAT TRAINING LOOKS. AND ALSO CLARIFIES THE CCO, THE NEW POSITION WILL NOT BE ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN EMPLOYED BY APD IN THE PAST OR ANY CURRENT OR PAST CPOA BOARD MEMBERS. ASK THERE'S REORGANIZATIONS. MOST NOTABLY SECTIONS DEALING WITH APPEAL PROCEDURES PUT IN THE APPEAL SECTION. AGAIN, VARIOUS, NUMEROUS CLEAN UP AND CLARIFYING CHANGES THROUGHOUT. >>COUN. BASSAN: I THINK MYSELF WITH THE CO-SPONSORS AND STAFF, WE DID THE ORDINANCE LAST YEAR BETWEEN THE COUNCIL AND WE SAID WE WOULD REVISIT IT AGAIN. I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD AND THOROUGH JOB OF DOING THAT. I ALSO KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THAT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WITH THE AGENCY IT IS AN INDEPENDENT DEPARTMENT THAT IS SUPPOSED TO INVESTIGATE THE USE OF FORCE COMPLAINTS. AND OTHER CASES WITHIN APD. IT'S THE BOARD'S JOB TO DECIDE IF THE AGENCY'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS MATCH. AND THE BOARD HAS NOT SEEMINGLY BEEN DOING THAT. AND ON THE LAST UPDATE I THINK WE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO STREAMLINE THEM AND HELP GIVE THEM SOME DIRECTIVES SO THERE WASN'T A RABBIT HOLE WITH EVERY INVESTIGATION. I'M REALLY PROUD OF MY WORK WITH THE CO-SPONSORS AND STAFF WITH CITY LEGAL WHO PUT IN A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT. I DON'T THINK THIS IS BEING RUSHED THROUGH. I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON. I REALIZE THAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SAY IT'S RUSHED THROUGH BECAUSE WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY OBTAIN THEIR PERSONAL OPINIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK WE REALLY TOOK INTO HEART AND CONSIDERATION THE OPINIONS AND THE OPINIONS FROM THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY ARE INVOLVED AND INVESTED IN THIS. I KNOW THE COUNCIL TOOK THIS VERY SERIOUSLY ALONG WITH THE CITY LEGAL. WE'VE ALSO WORKED CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE THE CHANGES IN HERE ARE ALSO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE APPROVED. WE'RE REALLY NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG. BUT WE DO NEED TO RESTRUCTURE THIS. WE NEED TO GIVE MORE GUIDANCE AND CLARITY. I THINK THIS IS DEFINITELY GOING TO ACHIEVE IT. I HOPE IT CREATES AN AGENCY AND BOARD THAT ARE MUCH MORE FUNCTIONAL THAN THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. >>COUN. DAVIS: HERE'S WHAT I THINK WE OUGHT TO DO. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS GET THE SUBSPP IN, GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND COME BACK AND GO AROUND WITH ANYTHING ADDITIONAL. IF THERE'S ANYTHING FROM COUNCILORS ON THE MOTION FOR FLOOR SUB? >>COUN. PEÑA: I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I DO HAVE TWO AMENDMENTS. >>COUN. DAVIS: LET'S GET THE SUB IN AND GO BACK TO YOUR AMENDMENTS. OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE MOTION TO SUBZ -- SUBSTITUTE? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS THERE WAS AN ITEM THAT STATED THAT THE RECOMMENDATION NOW IS PUSHED TO DOJ INSTEAD OF THE CHIEF OF POLICE. THE ONLY THING THAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE HAS -- HE KNOWS WHAT THE OFFICERS ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH. HE HAS PROBABLY REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE. YOU HAVE THE FACT THAT HE KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON IN REFERENCE TO THE LAW. HE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING IN REFERENCE TO SOP. AND HE KNOWS IN REFERENCE TO OFFICER SAFETY. >>COUN. DAVIS: IT DOESN'T GO TO DOJ IT GOES TO OFFICE OF POLICE REFORM WHICH IS THE SUPERINTENDENT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY. IS THAT WITHIN THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT? OKAY. >>COUN. DAVIS: OKAY. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY THAT'S FINE. I UNDERSTAND. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION FOR THE FLOOR SUB, SAY YES. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. IF IT'S OKAY, COUNCILORS, LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. AND WE'LL COME BACK FOR AMENDMENT AND ROUND TABLE. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS AMIR. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SIX. THE FIRST READING OF THIS ORDINANCE IT LOOKED LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL WAS TRYING TO -- AFTER READING ABOUT FIVE MORE TIMES I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE INTENT. I'M HERE TO SAY ON PAGE THREE LINE 30 AND 31 CONSIDER ALLOWING THE LANGUAGE OF THE DIRECTORER OF THE CPOA TO WORK IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE TO OBTAIN INDEPENDENT COUNCIL. ON PAGE FOUR LINE 17 TO 22 LANGUAGE THEREIN ABOUT COMMUNITY OUTREACH, STRIKING LANGUAGE THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH IS MINIMIZES AND PUTS THE CITY IN A POSITION WHERE THE SUBPAR COMMUNITY OUTREACH IT ENGAGES IS PROBLEMATIC. SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, THE PROVISION ABOUT IMPARTIALLY IS QUESTIONABLE. THEY MENTIONED SEVERAL YEARS. 9-4-14. SEVERAL YEARS? FIVE OR TEN YEARS. JUST BEING A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC IN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS. PAGE NINE, LINE TEN THROUGH 15. MAIN CONFLICT WITH SOP 52 THE POLICY DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND THE TIMELINES. I HAVE INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE AS I WORKED ON IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS SOP IS IN LINE WITH THE DEPARTMENT'S POLICY. ALSO, ON PAGE 10 LINE 16, REFERS TO POLICY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY POLICY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE AT THE DEPARTMENT. ALSO PAGE 10 LINE 22, THE CITY COUNCIL AND APD HAS SIX DISTRICTS, SIX AREA COMMANDS WHY NOT SIX SEATS ? PAGE 11 LINE TWO, THE BACKGROUND CHECK SOMEONE LIKE MYSELF WOULD BE EXCLUDED. I HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND CAPABILITY TO DO THE WORK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. >> UP NEXT, DEIDRE. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M COMING TO YOU THIS EVENING AS THE MOST RECENT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CPOA. PLEASE PASS THE AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. THESE AMENDMENTERIZE -- ARE THE BEST OPTION TO BRING THE CITY INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE POLICE OVERSIGHT PORTIONS OF THE CASA. IN IMR AFTER IMR THE INDEPENDENT MONITOR HAS COMMENTED ON THE BOARD'S REPEATED FAILURE TO FOCUS ON ITS JOB AT HAND PRIMARILY POLICY ISSUES, AUDITS AND TO LESSER EXTENT APPEALS. BECAUSE THEY KEEP GETTING BOGGED DOWN IN TRYING TO MICROMANAGE THE DAY TO DAY OF THE AGENCY. THIS AMENDMENT STRONGLY DEALS WITH THAT. IN THE LAST WEEK AND A HALF I'VE BEEN RATHER CONCERNED ABOUT THE MESSAGING I'VE PIN HEARING OUT OF THE BOARD CLAIMING THAT THESE AMENDMENTS SOMEHOW GUT POLICE OVERSIGHT IN ALBUQUERQUE. THEY DO THE EXACT OPPOSITE. IT REPLACES THE CURRENT INEFFECTIVE BOARD WITH A MORE FOCUSED AND MORE PROFESSIONAL BOARD. IT ALLOWS THE CURRENT AGENCY TO FOCUS ON THE DAY TO DAY TASKS OF INVESTIGATIONS THAT IS AT THE HEART OF OVERSIGHT. TO CONTINUE DOING THEIR JOB UNIMPEDED BY A BOARD THAT GETS FOCUSED ON PERSONAL ISSUES AND VENDETTA RATHER THAN ON THE TASK AT HAND. AND IT GIVES A BIT MORE RESPONSIBILITY TO THE COMMUNITY POLICING COUNCIL WHICH HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED AS A NATIONAL EXAMPLE AND CONTINUED TO DO GOOD WORK. I THANK THE CO-SPONSORS FOR BRINGING FORTH THIS BILL AND LISTENING TO THE THREE DIRECTORS. TWO OF US PERMANENT ONE INTERIM. I ASK ALL OF YOU TO JOIN US. THANK YOU. >> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A FEW AMENDMENTS. COUNCILOR PEÑA, YOU SPOKE UP EARLIER. YOU'RE FIRST. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT SPEAKER SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR THE CPOA BOARD. MR. AMIR. SO, FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. TO FLOOR SUB, O-22-67. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HE SPOKE ABOUT. THIS COMMUNITY OUTREACH. IT WAS DELETED FROM THE FLOOR SUB. I'D LIKE TO PUT IT BACK IN BUT CHANGE THE LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT. JULIA, DID YOU WANT TO READ IT? >>COUN. DAVIS: BEFORE YOU DO, I WANT TO BE SURE THIS IS THE SAME AMENDMENT. THERE WE GO. THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSES TO REVERT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE OF THE CURRENTLY STANDS. THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE STRIKES OUT THE LANGUAGE UNDERLINED IN THE AMENDMENT. IT SETS IT PACK -- BACK TO HOW IT WAS ORIGINALLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THERE A SECOND? MULTIPLE SECONDS. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THE REASON IS, ON THE CPC BOARD, ONE OF THE ISSUES ESPECIALLY WITH THE CASA IS THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE STATED THAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH IS IMPORTANT AND AS YOU KNOW KNOW ON BOTH BOARDS WE HAVE HAD ISSUES IN TERMS OF PROVIDING GOOD OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY. I THINK IT SHOULD REMAIN IN THE LEGISLATION. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN ON THAT MOTION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M WONDERING IF SOMEBODY CAN GIVE BACKGROUND ON WHY IT WAS REMOVED. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PAST DIRECTORS SAID THEY REALLY DIDN'T FEEL THEY HAD ENOUGH TIME TO DO THAT OUTREACH. I AGREE THAT OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY IS VITAL, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SETTING UP A NEW DIRECTOR WHEN AND IF WE FIND ONE TO NOT BE ABLE TO DO A COMPLETE JOB. IF YOU CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, YOUR RECOLLECTION IS ACCURATE. THE ORDINANCE AS IT EXISTS TODAY INCLUDE THIS REQUIREMENT FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH. AND ACTUALLY INCLUDES EVEN SOME MORE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE OUTREACH THAT WE NEED TO BE CONDUCTED. VERY SPECIFICALLY BY THE DIRECTOR. THE CPOA HAD AUTHORITY TO RETAIN COMMUNITY OUTREACH PERSON. AS WE KNOW IT IS THE CASE RIGHT NOW IN OUR LABOR MARKET AND WITH THE CITY THAT POSITION HASN'T BEEN FILLED RIANT MEMORY. THE DIRECTOR WAS UNDER AN OBLIGATION UNDER THE ORDINANCE TO WEAR YET ANOTHER HAT EVEN BEYOND THE BIG HAT THEY ALREADY WEAR MANAGING THE AGENCY AND DOING INVESTIGATIONS. THE IDEA WAS TO ELIMINATE THE VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR OUTREACH BUT STILL INCLUDE A MORE GENERAL REQUIREMENT AT SOME LEVEL. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THERE'S A POSITION FUNDED WITHIN THE CPOA THAT WOULD DO THAT KIND OF OUTREACH IF IT WERE FILLED? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THE CPOA HAS THAT, YES. THE ABILITY TO HIRE THAT POSITION. I BELIEVE -- THE AGENCY HAS BEEN AROUND FOR SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE HAD A PERSON DO THAT AT ONE POINT IN HISTORY. IT'S NOT A POSITION THAT HAS BEEN FILLED IN RECENT MEMORY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE AMENDMENT? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I'M WONDERING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO SAY INTED OF SHALL DEVELOP IMPLEMENT AND AMEND AS NECESSARY A PROGRAM OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH, WOULD IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO SAY A PROCESS FOR THEM TO A PROCESS SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY HAVE TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM AND ACTUALLY OPERATE A PROGRAM FWUT ACTUALLY COME UP WITH A PROCESS AND PROCEDURE FOR HOW THEY MAKE SURE TO DO COMMUNITY OUTREACH SOLICITING INPUT FROM THE BROADEST. IT MIGHT NOT BE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S A MIDDLE GROUND? >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT. WE CAN SAY A PROCESS BUT THEY DEVELOP A PROCESS BUT THEY DON'T IMPLEMENT THP PROCESS. THAT WOULD BE THE ISSUE. SO, WITH THE LANGUAGE THEREIN, THE FACT THAT THE DIRECTOR IS SAYING THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IT, NOT HIRING SOMEONE IS -- IT'S NOT IT CAN'T BE DONE WE NEED TO HIRE THAT MAKES SURE TO FILL THAT POSITION AND GET IT DONE SO WE CAN REALLY ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY THE WAY THIS IS INTENDED TO BE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. ANY OPPOSED? COUNCILOR LEWIS, DID YOU HAVE COMMENT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT MATTER CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILOR JONES IS A NO. ALL THOSE NO, SAY NO. TWO. 7-2. COUNCILOR PEÑA, YOU HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS MORE DIGESTIBLE. IT'S JUST AN ISSUE FOR ME. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO SIT ON A BOARD. I'LL LEV -- LEAVE IT TO JULIA. THIS ELIMINATES PAYMENTS TO CPOA BOARD MEMBERS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT'S ACCURATE. THIS WOULD REMOVE THE PORTIONS OF THE BILL THAT WOULD PROVIDE FOR AN HONORARYIUM FOR BOARD MEMBERS UPON COMPLETION OF INITIAL TRAINING AND THEY'RE REQUIRED ANNUAL TRAINING. AS WELL AS A STIPEND FOR BOARD MEMBERS FOR ATTENDANCE AT REGULAR MEETINGS OF THE BOARD. THAT WOULD BE $100 PER MEETING NOT TO EXCEED $200 PER MONTH PER BOARD MEMBER. THOSE TWO PROVISIONS WOULD BE REMOVED. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE NEED A SECOND. COUNCILOR BASSAN SECOND. COUNCILOR BASSAN WITH A COMMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT. SOME OF THE BACKGROUND ON THIS, AND HONESTLY THE STIPEND PART I COULD DEAL WITHOUT AS WELL. THE HONORARIUM, THE BACKGROUND ON THAT IS THE CONVERSATION THAT WERE HAD IN COMPAISON WITH SOME OF THE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, THE AMOUNT OF TRAINING INVOLVED IN ORDER TO BECOME A CPOA BOARD MEMBER IS QUITE A BIT MORE SIGNIFICANT. IT WASN'T REALLY NECESSARILY AN INCENTIVE, MORE AS ONCE THEY COMPLETE THE TRAINING THEN THEY CAN GET THAT HONORARIUM AS FOR THEIR TIME AND CHILD CARE. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN THE LAST ORDINANCE UPDATE WE DID LAST YEAR WAS SOME PEOPLE DON'T VOLUNTEER BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY TO WATCH THEIR KID OR TO COOK DINNER OR THEY HAVE WORK SO THEY CAN'T MAKE ADDITIONAL TRAININGS BECAUSE IT IS MORE CHALLENGING FOR THEM WHICH IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE PROBLEM IN SOME OF THE OTHER PARTS OF ALBUQUERQUE TO THE POINT WHERE THIS IS A WAY TO SAY IF YOU ARE WILLING TO SERVE AND IF YOU'RE WILLING TO COMMITMENT THE TIME TO IT, WE'RE WILL TO FIND A WAY TO HAVE THE MIDDLE GROUND TO SAY AFTER THE FACT YOU'RE IN THE TRAINING, THEN WE WILL MAKE SURE YOU GET COMPENSATED WITH THE HONORARIUM. THE STIPEND, THERE'S PLENTY OF VOLUNTEER BOARDS THAT DON'T GET PAID TO GO TO A MEETING. BUT I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THE HONORARIUM TO HELP COMPENSATE THOSE THAT NEED IT MORE. >>COUN. PEÑA: JUST A QUICK COMMENT. YES, I MEAN I THINK THERE'S OTHER BOARDS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO SERVE IN DISTRICT THREE TO SERVE ON THE LIBRARY BOARD IT'S DIFFICULT AND THEY HAVE THE SAME ISSUES. FOR ME, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT -- YOU KNOW, IF WE BROKE THEM OUT INTO TODIFFERENT AMENDMENTS BECAUSE THIS ONE IS ALSO NOT JUST FOR THE TRAINING BUT TO ATTEND THE MEETING. IT WOULD BE FOR ATTENDING THE MEETING. I THINK YOU CAN MENTION IF WE CAN TAKE THAT OUT AND I STILL KEEP THE OTHER AMENDMENT AND IF IT FAILS IT FAILS. STILL KNOWING IT IS A CHALLENGE. MAYBE WE SHOULD CHANGE POLICIES CITYWIDE ABOUT PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO GET COMPENSATION TO SERVE ON BOARDS BECAUSE I HAVE PEOPLE ON DISTRICT THREE NOT ONLY BECAUSE THEY'RE CHECKER BOARD. BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S DIFFICULT ACROSS THE BOARD. FOR THOSE REASONS, WITH DRAW MY AMENDMENT AND REMAKE A MOTION A MOTION FOR THE LINE TWO OF THE AMENDMENT, FIRST OF ALL. >>COUN. DAVIS: SURE. HOWEVER STAFF WANTS TO DO IT. >>COUN. PEÑA: SECTION TWO FIRST. >>COUN. DAVIS: I THINK THAT'S FINE. >>COUN. PEÑA: SO, MY AMENDMENT TWO WOULD BE LINE TWO AND I MOVE APPROVAL OF THAT ONE FIRST. >>COUN. DAVIS: OKAY. ONLY SECTION TWO OR LINE TWO, WHATEVER THAT IS. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON. I RECOGNIZE MYSELF AND I'LL GO TO COUNCILOR BENTON FOR COMMENT. I AGREE WITH YOU. I WANTED TO SAY EXACTLY WHAT YOU LANDED ON, COUNCILOR PEÑA. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE BOARDS I FEEL LIKE EPC IS ONE OF THOSE BOARDS, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT ARE MORE THAN A QUARTERLY CHECK IN MEETING THAT REQUIRE LOTS OF HOMEWORK AND SACRIFICING OF TIME YOU HAVE TO BE THERE DURING BUSINESS HOURS. AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GO TO APD TO REVIEW DOCUMENTS. WE HEARD FROM FOLKS THAT THIS WAS FOR SOME BOARD MEMBERS AT SOME PART OF THE PROCESS A 40-HOUR WEEK JOB AND PLUS WEEKEND TRAININGS. WE'RE TRYING TO REVISE THAT TO ELIMINATE THOSE EXTRA REQUIREMENTS. I LIKE THE AMENDMENTS. YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. ALL THAT SAID, IT IS WONDERFUL TO HAVE PEOPLE PARTICIPATE. I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THIS AS TRYING TO SET A NEW STANDARD FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. AND COMPENSATE PEOPLE FOR THEIR TIME IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DEVOTE IT TO US INSTEAD OF THE BOY SCOUTS OR GIRL SCOUTS OR WORK A SECOND JOB OR WHATEVER IT IS WE SHOULD PLACE VALUE ON THAT BECAUSE WE NEED THEM AND HELP TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS AND DO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCILOR BASSAN BROUGHT UP. FOR THAT REASON I LOVE THE STIPEND IDEA OR HONORARIUM IDEA AT THOSE PLACE BECAUSE THAT IS THE EXTRA TRAINING THAT GOES INTO THIS THAT IS A LITTLE MORE THAN BEING ON ONE OF THE OTHER BOARDS. I'M FINE WITH THE PER MEETING THING. I THINK IT PROBABLY WON'T PASS. I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT THE SPONSOR'S AMENDMENT. I'D LOVE TO LOOK AT THAT FOR OTHER BOARDS. >>COUN. BENTON: I SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND I HAVE AN AMENDMENT THAT DOES REDUCE SOME OF THE HOURLY BURDEN OF THE TRAINING IN AREAS WHERE WE FEEL IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT IMPORTANT FOR THE BOARD TO RECEIVE THESE TRAININGS. THAT MAY AFFECT WHETHER WE'RE AT THE RIGHT NUMBER. I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT GOING TO EQUILIBRIUMAL OVER WHETHER IT SHOULD MAYBE WE SEE HOW IT GOES AND SEE WHETHER THAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER OR NOT. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO COMPENSATE THE SERIOUS AMOUNT OF TRAINING THAT'S REQUIRED REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OUR AMENDMENT PASSES OR NOT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I THINK THAT AN HONORARIUM IS VERY IMPORTANT. I THINK THE TRAINING IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THESE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT BOARDS THAT WE HAVE. WHAT THEY'RE REVIEWING IS VERY SERIOUS. THEY NEED TO HAVE THE TRAINING ON BOTH SIDES. THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OFFICERS ARE GOING THROUGH, THEY ALSO NEED TO HAVE THAT BACKGROUND TRAINING FOR OTHER CONFLICTS. IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE ANY KIND OF REDUCTION FOR IT. I THINK WE'VE TAKEN INTO THAT CONSIDERATION THE AMOUNT OF TIME THEY NEED. AND SO, I THINK BEING COMPENSATED IS IMPORTANT. AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY, VERY SERIOUS BOARD AND THE DECISIONS ARE HUGE. I THINK I LIKE GIVING THEM SOMETHING -- GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND BEING COMPENSATED FOR THAT. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR GROUT. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WE PROVIDE FOLKS SOME AMOUNT OF MONETARY COMPENSATION FOR THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME THEY'RE SPENDING ON THIS BOARD AND OTHERS. I'M WITH COUNCILOR DAVIS ON WE SHOULD BE RETHINKING THAT FOR ALL CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. PARTICULARLY ON THIS BOARD, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE FOLKS FROM ALL ECONOMIC LEVELS PARTICIPATE AND REPRESENT ON THIS BOARD. AND I BELIEVE WHEN YOU SOMETHING THAT THIS TIME-CONSUMING AND WE DON'T OFFER A STIPEND AND HONORARIUM WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH A LOT OF FOLKS WHO ARE PRIVILEGED LIKE ME I CAN TAKE OFF TIME IN THE DAY TO GO TO MEETINGS AND DO WORK BUT NOT EVERYONE IS LIKE THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ABLE TO GET REPRESENT AGSZ FROM ALL FOLKS IN THE CITY THAT WANT TO SERVE ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT BOARD. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL LOOK AT THIS QUESTION PRETTY SERIOUSLY, WHAT DO THE VOTERS AND TAXPAYERS SAY ABOUT US PAYING PEOPLE FOR BEING ON THE BOARDS? I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM BEFORE WE MAKE THE DECISION. EVEN TALK TO SOME OF THE FOLKS AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY. EVEN OUR LEGISLATORS DON'T GET PAID. THEY SERVE IN SANTA FE. I'M HOPING THAT I'D LIKE TO DEFER TO SEE WHAT THE VOTERS AND THE TAXPAYERS HAVE TO SAY. HAVE WE EVEN GONE THERE YET? >>COUN. DAVIS: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. SEEING NONE. COUNCILOR PEÑA TO CLOSE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER WHATEVER THIS IS NOW. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD AGREE WITH EVERYONE. I STILL THINK THE SAME THING HOLDS TRUE FOR LIKE THE LIBRARY BOARD AND SAME THING. I WOULD WITHDRAW THE AMENDMENT FOR THE TRAINING. I REALLY DO THINK WE SHOULD REVISIT IT IN TERMS OF ALL OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. BUT PAYING A STIPEND, FOR ALL THE REASONS YOU STATED, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I AGREE. WE HAVE VERY IMPORTANT BOARDS THAT PEOPLE SERVE ON AND TAKE TIME AWAY FROM THEIR YOUNG FAMILIES AND TRYING TO BALANCE WORK AND EVERYTHING. IF WE CAN COME TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN GET PEOPLE PAID TO BE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS I THINK THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. I THINK IT WOULD BE ALLEVIATE ISSUES. WITH THAT, I WOULDN'T MOVE THE OTHER ONE FORWARD. I WOULD URGE YOUR SUPPORT ON THE STIPEND FOR THE MONTHLY MEETING. >>COUN. DAVIS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO REMOVE THE STIPEND SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? 4-5. THAT FAILS. COUNCILOR PEÑA, DO YOU WANT TO MOVE YOUR OTHER ONE? >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. I SAID I WOULDN'T. SO I WON'T. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANYTHING ELSE? >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'LL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. IT'S SHORT. ON PAGE 14 LINE 18 STRIKE AUTOTHEFT. ONLINE 20 STRIKE HOMICIDE. ONLINE 21 HORSE MOUNTED UNIT. ONLINE 23 STRIKE CANINE. AND RENUMBER SUBSECTIONS. THE POINT BEHIND THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT. THIS BOARD REQUIRES A VAST AMOUNT OF TRAINING. AND WHILE A LOT OF THE TRAINING REQUIRED IS USEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT THE CPOA BOARD DOES, LOOKING THROUGH THE LIST, I'M NOT SURE THAT UNDERSTANDING HOW THE HORSE MOUNTED UNIT WORKS AND SPENDING ONE AND A HALF HOURS IN THAT TRAINING IS REALLY BENEFICIAL TO THE END PRODUCT THAT THESE FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE DOING ON THIS IMPORTANT BOARD. WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE A DUE PASS ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE AMOUNT OF TRAINING. IT MIGHT HAVE ESCAPED MY MIND AND MAYBE I DON'T KNOW IT. ON AVERAGE DO WE ANY ABOUT HOW MANY HOURS OF TRAINING IT IS TO BECOME FULLY TRAINED TO BE A BOARD MEMBER ON THE CPOA? >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER. IT'S AN ONGOING ISSUE WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS. ASSERTING IT'S TO INTENSIVE. I HAVEN'T ADDED THE TOTAL NUMBER OF HOURS. >>COUN. PEÑA: I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. >>COUN. DAVIS: LOTS OF SMART PEOPLE KNOW. RAISE YOUR HAND AND TELL US. I HEAR 33. I HEAR 20, AND HEAR 33. I TRUST CHRIS. 20 NOW, 30-SOMETHING IN THE NEW ORDINANCE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IT'S 32.5 IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE WE JUST APPROVED. IT'S ALL ON PAGE 14. AND THEY'RE LINED OUT. IT GOES FROM EVERYTHING FROM RECRUITING, BASIC TRAINING, FIELD TRAINING, FIELD SERVICES, ONE HOUR. RESPONSE, THREE HOURS. CRISIS INTERVENZ, THREE HOURS. COMMUNITY POLICING, ONE HOUR. IMPACTING ONE HOUR. AUTOTHEFT ONE HOUR. HOMICIDE THREE HOUR. HORSE MOUNTED UNIT 1.5 UNIT. CANINE 1.5 HOURS. LESS LETHAL OPTIONS 1.5 HOUR. AND REALITY BASED TRAINING THREE HOURS. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M SORRY, I GUESS I DIDN'T ASK MY QUESTION CLEARLY. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS. I'M IN SUPPORT OF MINIMIZING THIS. I'M WONDERING ON THE WHOLE, WHAT IS THE APPROXIMATE AMOUNT OF HOURS TO BECOME FULLY TRAINED AS A CPOA BOARD MEMBER, INCLUDING THE NACOLE CONFERENCE AND LEARNING FROM THE AGENCY HOW THINGS WURBTH -- WUKT WHAT IS THE TOTAL HOURS AND APPROXIMATION. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THIS QUESTION HAS COME UP BEFORE. I WISH I MENTALLY NOTED IT WHEN WE ADDED IT UP ONCE BEFORE. MY BEST RECOLLECTION BASED ON THE INITIAL TRAINING WHICH INCLUDED THE CIVILIAN POLICE ACADEMY WAS 60 HOURS. PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. THIS WOULD REDUCE IT BY ELIMINATED SOME OF THE POLICE ACADEMY REQUIREMENTS. HOWEVER, THIS IS JUST THE CIVILIAN POLICE ACADEMY. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TRAINING REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING RIDE ALONG, THAT STILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE TRAINING. SGLAUNG FOR THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU FOR THAT. I AGREE. I WAS CURIOUS BECAUSE THAT'S A QUESTION I'VE NEVER ASKED. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LOT. WHICH IS WHERE WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT HONORARIUMS. THANK YOU FOR EDUCATING ME ON THAT. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS? COUNCILORS, WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, AND COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: HAPPY TO HEAR OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE -- THIS ISN'T A CLOSE BY ANY MEANS. I DO THINK WE'VE -- WE KEEP HAMMERING AWAY AT THIS ORDINANCE. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO NEED TO AMEND THIS ORDINANCE. MOST LIKELY. JUST THE DISCUSSIONS TONIGHT INDICATE THAT. AND FROM THE CO-SPONSORS AND THIS IS A TOUGH NUT TO CRACK. I THINK WE'VE TRIED VERY HARD WHICH IT'S NOT OUT OF DISRESPECT FOR ANY PARTICULAR BOARD MEMBER PRESENT OR PAST. IT HASN'T WORKED. IT DOES NEED A REVAMP AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT REQUIRED THE DISSOLUTION OF THE CURRENT BOARD WHO MAY REAPPLY. THOSE MEMBERS, AS LONG AS THEY QUALIFY UNDER THE NEW RULES MAY REAPPLY FOR THE NEW STRUCTURE. I WANT TO MAKE THOSE POINTS AND NOT HAVE ANYONE THINK WE'RE SHUTTING THE DOOR AND THINKING EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE GREAT. BECAUSE IT'S BANE LEARNING PROCESS AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE ONE JUST AS THE WHOLE CASA SETTLEMENT AND ALL THE HISTORY THAT COUNCILOR JONES AND I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR EVERY BIT OF IT. I THINK COUNCILOR LEWIS WAS HERE FOR A LOT OF IT TOO. STILL SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT IT YEARS LATER. THIS IS OUR PIECE OF THE ACTION, IF YOU WILL. WITH REGARD TO THE CASA SETTLEMENT. BIG RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE COUNCIL AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE CO-SPONSORS ON THIS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'M GOING TO GO COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU WHERE MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. GROUT: I KNOW THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THERE'S BEEN A RESET. THIS IS NOT UNIQUE. I'M GOING TO READ A FEW THINGS. COUNCIL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING THE POLICIES THAT MAKE SURE CITY IS COMPLYING WITH THE CASA AND THAT APD HAS APPROPRIATE OVERSIGHT FROM THE AGENCY AND ITS BOARD. I THINK THIS REVISED ORDINANCE DOES A GOOD JOB OF CLARIFYING THE BOARD'S RELATIONSHIP TO THE POLICE OVERSIGHT AGENCY. AND THE AGENCY'S ROLE IN INVESTIGATING POLICE USE OF FORCE. THE CURRENT BOARD HAS UNDERTAKEN A BIG JOB AND WE THANK THEM FOR THEIR COMMITMENT. THIS NEW ORDINANCE, WE HOPE, CLARIFIES THE VOLUNTEERS ON THIS BOARD PROVIDE VALUABLE REVIEW AND INPUT ON POLICE POLICIES ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY. AND IT ASSIGNS TRACKING AND MONITORING COMPLIANCE OF THE CASA TO AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACT COMPLIANCE OFFICER. THIS ORDINANCE SIMPLIFIES THE ROLE OF THE CPOA BOARD AND IT ALSO GIVES A GREATER ROLE IN POLICY REVIEW TO OUR COMMUNITY POLICING COUNCIL. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, AS A FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, I SAW HOW CUMBERSOME THE PREVIOUS BOARD WAS IN TERMS OF TRYING TO DEAL WITH NINE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS TRYING TO FILL THE BOARD. IT WAS REALLY A DIFFICULT SITUATION. I'VE HEARD THAT I'M PROBABLY THE HARDEST INTERVIEWER ON THE BOARD. SO, I URGE THESE FOLKS TO REAPPLY, IF THEY LIKE. I ALSO LIKE TO THANK VAJ THAT I ASKED TO JOIN THE BOARD, MR. GREG JACKSON. HE HAS A LOT OF INSIGHT IN REFERENCE TO HOW THE POLICE WORK AND HOW THE BOARD FUNCTIONED. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO HIM FOR SERVING. ALSO WHEN IT COMES TO THE POPULARITY OF THE BOARD WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE OFFICERS TO HAVE TO HAVE THEIR CASES PUT IN FRONT OF THE BOARD AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO WHAT'S RIGHT TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS AND ALSO TO PROTECT THE OFFICERS. WE NEED A FULY FUNCTIONAL BOARD THAT UNDERSTANDS THE DYNAMICS THAT GO ON. WE'VE WORKED WITH DOJ TO MAKE SURE WE STRENGTHEN THE BOARD IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE WE DON'T HAVE THESE INDIVIDUALS RUN OFF INTO A RABBIT HOLE, SO TO SPEAK, OR GO INTO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. I THINK WE'VE DONE WHAT THE DOJ WANTS US TO DO. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT BETTER FUNCTIONING BOARD ONCE WE GET THIS BOARD FULLY STAFFED. I JUST WANT TO ASK ARE WE READY TO START STAFFING THAT BOARD RIGHT NOW? HOW ARE WE DOING WITH THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THE RECRUITMENT FOR THE BOARD IS ONGOING. YOU REFERENCED COUNCIL INTERVIEWS. THERE ARE TWO FOLKS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE VETTING PROCESS. AND WE'RE PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD. AND SCHEDULING INTERVIEWS WITH ADDITIONAL FOLKS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. IT'S A LENGTHY PROCESS. AS WE TELL THE APPLICANTS THAT COME THROUGH IT, THE SIGNIFICANCE AND THE INTENSITY OF THE PROCESS IS REFLECTIVE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE JOB THEY'RE VOLUNTEERING TO DO. HOWEVER, I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY GET FOLKS PROCESSED THROUGH AND HAVE A QUORUM ON THIS BOARD BY MARCH, IF THIS GOES FORWARD. WE DO CONTINUE ONGOING ENROLLING RECRUITMENT AND INTERVIEWS FOR THE BOARD. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE TIMETABLE. YOU'RE SAYING MORE LIKELY MID-MARCH? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THE FACT THAT I'VE GIVEN A DATE -- YEAH, I THINK THAT IS TOTALLY DOABLE WITH THE PROCESS WE HAVE. ONE OF THE ISSUES WE RAN INTO IS NOT LACK OF ATTENTION, BUT BECAUSE OF HIGH INTENSITY OF THE BOARD WE GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF WORKING WITH SOMEONE AND THEY REALIZE IT'S NOT THE RIGHT FIT BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOMEBODY THEY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OR THEY HAVE A JOB. THERE IS A PROCESS OF EDUCATING THE PEOPLE OF THE OBLIGATION AND REASSURING THEY STILL WANT TO COMPLETE THAT. OUR SUCCESS WITH GETTING PEOPLE THROUGH THAT PROCESS, I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE A QUORUM ON THIS BOARD BY MARCH. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. I HOPE THAT SATISFIES THE COMMUNITY. CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND PEOPLE WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCILORS? LET ME SAY -- I'M SORRY. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. WOULD SOMEONE BE DISQUALIFIED FOR HAVING A FELONY IN THEIR BACKGROUND? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT OR LIMITATION IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT WOULD IMPOSE THAT. THE CITY'S GENERAL REQUIREMENT IS THAT IS NOT A HARD BAR TO SERVICE ON ANY BOARD. THAT IS A RECENT DEVELOPMENT THAT I THINK THE CITY IS PRETTY PROUD OF IN REVAMPING BACKGROUND CHECK SYSTEM. IT'S A MORE OF A SLIDING SCALE AND DEPENDS ON A RECENCY AND SEVERITY. TO THE EXTENT THAT SOMEBODY HAS AN ISSUE FROM YIERZ BACK AND IT'S NOT REPEATED THEY MAKE IT THROUGH THE BACKGROUND CHECK AND WOULD NOT HAVE AN ISSUE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. I WAS GIVEN DIFFERENT ISSUE BUT IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF YOU HAD A FELONY YOU COULD STILL SERVE ON THE CITY BOARD. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: LET ME RECOGNIZE MYSELF AND CLOSE AND GO TO THE ADMINISTRATION. I JUST WANT TO SAY I AGREE. THIS IS A LOT OF WORK. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN PARTICIPATED IN A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS AND GETTING PIECES OF THIS TOGETHER AS WELL. AND THE FOLKS THAT I'VE HEARD FROM WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THEY PERCEIVE TO BE THE ELIMINATION OF THE POLICE OVERSIGHT AGENCY OR BOARD, I SHARE YOUR CONCERN. I WAS AN ADVOCATE BEFORE I JOINED WHEN THE COUNCILORS WHO WERE HERE WERE SITTING THIS UP. WE'RE ALL PART OF THE CONCERN. THAT'S NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING. IN MY EXPERIENCE, THE AGENCY PIECE, THE PROFESSIONAL, THE DIRECTOR, THE VISHER -- INVESTIGATORS, WE KEEP FUNDING THEM. DATA ANALYSTS TO LOOK AT TRENDS. AND PROFESSIONAL INVESTIGATORS WHO KNOW HOW TO DO INVESTIGATIONS AND FOLLOW UP ON COMPLAINTS. LOT OF THAT WORK USED TO BE DONE BY NINE PEOPLE OR WHOEVER SHOWED UP THAT WEEK THAT WERE CIVILIAN VOLUNTEERS AND GO THROUGH ALL THE BACKGROUND. WE REALLY PROFESSIONALIZED THE OVERSIGHT INVESTIGATION PART. THROUGH THE PROCESS, I'M GOING TO SIMPLIFY THIS, AND LAWYERS WILL CORRECT ME BECAUSE I SAY IT WRONG. WHAT HAPPENS IS IF THE OUTSIDE INVESTIGATORS AND APD AGREE THAT SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING WRONG AND THE DISCIPLINE IS RIGHT, THERE DOESN'T NEED TO BE A LOT OF HEARING ABOUT IT. YOU DON'T NEED TO REHASH IT AND INVESTIGATE IT HERE BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER THINGS TO DO. THAT BOARD IS TO PROVIDE A BACKSTOP FOR SOMEBODY THAT DISAGREES AND THINKS WE HAVE A WRONG POLICY. THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE TRYING TO SAY WE WANT TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE PROCESS. WE WANT TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE INVESTIGATORS AND AGENCY AND EYE ON THE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES. IT WAS ASKING TOO MUCH TO HAVE CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS TO MANAGE A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR AGENCY AND PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND EXPECT THEM TO KEEP THAT GOING EVERY DAY AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL THAT ABSOLUTELY MUST BE DONE WITH THIS CRITICAL MISSION. NOW, I THINK WE HAVE AN AGENCY AND OVERSIGHT PROCESS THAT GIVES US CONFIDENCE AND TRANSPARENCY ON BOTH SIDES. WE'VE GOT THE WATCHERS AND APD IS FAMILIAR WITH THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE FORCE INVESTIGATIONS TEAM AND THE OUTSIDE FORCE INVESTIGATION TEAM. WE HAVE THIS HERE. HERE'S THE COMPLAINT PROCESS AND THE BOARD IS WATCHING THE INVESTIGATORS. AND WE'RE ALL SITTING HERE WITH THE NEW COMPLIANCE OFFICER TO WATCH ALL OF THAT PROCESS. I LIKE THE WAY THIS WORKS. I THINK IT CONTINUES TO REFORM AND GROW UP AS WE DO BETTER IN AND CHECK OFF THE THINGS WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE ON. I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S WORK. IT'S THE NEXT GENERATION OF WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO. WE CAN DO IT WELL BY APPOINTING THE RIGHT PEOPLE. THANK YOU AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. ANYTHING WE MISSED? ADMINISTRATION? XG HERE? >>COUN. DAVIS: ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING FURTHER? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF O-67 AS AMENDED. SAY YES. THAT MATTER CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATULATIONS. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'D LIKE TO WITHDRAW R-70. >>COUN. DAVIS: THERE'S A MOTION. AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT MATTER CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT UP, WE'RE GOING TO DO A SPECULATE OF NUISANCE STRUCTURES. WE'RE GOING TO SEE HOW FAR WE CAN GET BEFORE WE EXTEND THIS. THE FIRST ONE IS R-80. WE HAVE OUR OWNER AND TRANSLATOR HERE. FIRST, I'LL MOVE R-80 WHICH IS A NUISANCE DWELLING IN NEED OF ABATEMENT AT 629 SAN MATEO. I INTEND TO ASK FOR A DEFERRAL IF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS TO WORK WITH US. THE OWNER, WE'VE HAD TROUBLE CONTACTING THE OWNER. BUT DUE DILIGENCE BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND COOPERATION WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND THE OWNER AND THEY HAD POSITIVE CONVERSATIONS. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A 30-DAY DEFERRAL ON THIS MATTER. BUT, I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR AND THANK YOU SO MUCH -- THIS IS A ONE-TIME 30-DAY -- WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS. A ONE-TIME DEFERRAL I MAKE TO GIVE YOU SOME TIME TO COME UP WITH A PLAN AND CONTINUE TO WORK. AND SO, MY INTENT WOULD BE A 30-DAY DEFERRAL IF WE HAVE A SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR BEING OUR TRANSLATOR. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR GROUT, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME -- >>COUN. DAVIS: COULD YOU HELP HER SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? >> THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME CHANCE TO IMPROVE MY PROPERTY. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT WAS THAT BAD. THIS MORNING I WENT AND TOOK PICTURE BECAUSE -- WHAT I PLAN TO DO. I CONTACTED THE REMOVER. AND I CONTACTED OTHER PEOPLE -- I HAVEN'T [ INAUDIBLE ]. HE TOLD ME HE WAS GOING TO CONTACT ME TODAY. BECAUSE HE ALREADY HAD TIME TO GO AT 12 O'CLOCK. I'LL FIX WHATEVER I NEED. AND FIX THE FENCE. WHICH WHAT I'M AFRAID. TO FIX THE FENCE, I DID IT BEFORE MANY TIMES. AND IT ONLY LAST A WEEK. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY GET THE TOOLS. TO CUT ALL THE CHAIN LINK FENCE. CUT THE CHAINS THAT I PUT THE LOCK. THE CHAINS TO THE LOCK. AND I SEND SOME OF MY FRIENDS TO GO BECAUSE I'M AFRAID. AND MY FRIEND CAME BACK TO ME SAYING DON'T GO, THEY HAVE GUNS. THAT'S WHY I ONLY DRIVE BY. I DON'T GO. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. >> I AM WILLING TO DO ANYTHING. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. WOULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? >> [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE THANK YOU FOR HELPING US WITH ASIAN AMERICAN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION TO HELP US FIND A TRANSLATOR TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. WOULD YOU MIND HAVING A SEAT JUST A MINUTE. I WANT TO LET THE DIRECTOR SPEAK AND WE'LL COME BACK AND SPEAK WITH YOU. >> I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION WORKS VERDICT WORKS VERY HARD TO RID THE CITY OF MAJOR PROBLEM MOTHERS THAT POSE A DANGER TO THE CITIZENS AND IN THIS CASE A DANGER TO THE OWNER. AS YOU HEARD THE PROPERTY IS CONTINUALLY GETTING BROKEN INTO. A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, IT GOT BURNT DOWN. WE DON'T FEEL IT'S SOMETHING CLOSE TO SOMETHING REPARABLE. IF YOU DEFER FOR 30 DAYS, I'M GLAD THAT YOU EMPHASIZE THE REALITY THAT WE'LL BE PACK IN 30 DAYS AND IF SOME MIRACLE HASN'T HAPPENED WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROCEED WITH THE DEMOLITION RESOLUTION. THIS PROPERTY HAS HAD CODE ENFORCEMENT GO OUT 63 TIMES IN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS. THERE HAVE BEEN OVER 23 CALLS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO KNOW -- GO OUT. THERE'S BEEN SEVEN CALL FOR THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT AND THERE'S THREE FIRES AT THE PROPERTY. AND SO THIS IS NOT SIMPLY A MATTER OF PROPERTY THAT WE FILE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE FIXED UP. WE WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WE'LL BE READY TO COME BACK AND PROCEED WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO PROTECT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. YES, COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO ASK, AND THIS IS A QUESTION I HAD BEEN WANTING TO ASK BECAUSE WE PASSED DURING THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE WE PUT A MILLION DOLLARS TO TRY, ON PRINCIPLE WE'RE VOTING AGAINST THIS BECAUSE WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH PEOPLE MAINING HOUSE, NOT MAINTAINING, HOUSING SHORTAGE AND NOT BEING ABLE TO ACCESS HOUSING. YOU KNOW, I KEPT SAYING WE DIDN'T HAVE A PROGRAM IN PLACE AT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TO HELP PEOPLE FIX THEIR HOUSES OR TO -- WE PUT IN A MILLION DOLLARS. I KNOW HOME WISE WAS AWARDED. DO YOU WORK WITH HOME WISE TO HELP PEOPLE SO THEY CAN GET THE FUNDING THAT WE ALLOCATED TO MAKE HOME REPAIRS? >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THAT WOULD BE ADMINISTERED BY THE FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT. POSSIBLY WITH SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE SENIOR AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT. THAT'S NOT DONE THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. I WANT TO REEMPHASIZE AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY WOULD NOT BE AMENABLE TO REPAIR. THIS IS A CAVING IN, FALLING DOWN HALF BURNT UP PROPERTY. MANY TIMES IN CASES LIKE THIS AND THE OTHERS YOU HEAR ABOUT TONIGHT IT'S MUCH MORE ECONOMICAL TO JUST CREPE -- SCRAPE IT AND BUILD FROM SCRATCH. YOU CAN'T PROP UP SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT MEET ANY CODES AND IS GETTING READY TO FALL DOWN. YOU'LL SPEND MORE TIME AND MONEY THAN STARTING FROM SCRATCH. >>COUN. PEÑA: I UNDERSTAND THAT. THIS SITUATION IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO US, I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD MEET WITH HOME WISE AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE DO THIS PROCESS. I THINK IT SHOULD GO THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. BECAUSE WHEN SOME PEOPLE ARE HAVING THEIR HOUSES CONDEMNED, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SHOULD PROVIDE THEM OR SEND THEM IN DIRECTION OF FAMILY OR COMMUNITY TO SEE IF THERE'S MONEY AVAILABLE TO HELP MAKE REPAIRS THROUGH THE HOME. THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT'S BEYOND THAT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD PUT THAT MONEY INTO TO DO PRECISE ADLY THAT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT WORKING I ENVISIONED IT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, IF I CAN PLEASE ADDRESS THAT. WE DO WORK WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO PROVIDE THOSE REFERRALS TO THEM. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY DO USE THAT MONEY WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO USE THE MONEY TO HELP PEOPLE. WE CERTAINLY DO POINT THEM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE PEOPLE INTERFACE WITH SENIOR AFFAIRS OR FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES TRYING TO GET REPAIRS DONE ON THE PROPERTY. >>COUN. PEÑA: IN THE LAST YEAR HAVE YOU REFERRED THIS LADY TO -- >> ME? NO. WE REFER THEM TO THE DEPARTMENT THAT CONTRACTS WITH HOME WISE. I REFER TO PEOPLE AT SENIOR AFFAIRS AND FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. PLANNING DOES NOT MANAGE THE CONTRACT. >>COUN. PEÑA: CORRECT. >> YES, WE REFERRED THEM TO OUR SISTER DEPARTMENTS WHO THEN FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE. I WANT TO POINT OUT THIS IS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. I'M NOT SURE IT APPLIES IN THIS CASE. I WOULD LOVE BEFORE WE GET TO BUDGET IF WE USED THAT APPROPRIATELY. LET ME ADDRESS REALLY QUICKLY, WE WANT TO SEE YOU BACK IN A MONTH. IF EVERYBODY AGREES, BUT THERE'S SOME FOLKS THAT WANT TO HELP. WE'VE PUT YOU IN CONTACT WITH THE COMMANDER FROM APD WHOSE IS THE ASIAN AMERICAN LEE LIAISON TO GET THE PEOPLE OFF THE PROPERTY SO YOU CAN WALK THROUGH IT SAFELY. HE'LL HELP YOU GET OVER THERE SAFELY. AND MY OFFICE CAN HELP. >> SOMETIMES I SHOW UP AND THEY SAY PICK UP PERMISSION FROM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S A MAN. THEY DON'T THINK WOMEN CAN OWN PROPERTY. THEY DON'T HAVE RESPECT TO ME AT ALL. I FEEL SCARED BECAUSE SOMETIMES THERE'S SEVEN OF THEM. SOMETIMES THREE OF THEM. SOMETIMES FOUR OF THEM. EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE TRESPASSING, THEY SHOULD KNOW I HAVE THE SIGNS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO. JUST TELL THE OFFICER DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO. >>COUN. DAVIS: I WANT TO SAY, WE HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS TO DO. WE HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR YOU. YOU'RE WELL RESPECTED INTEREST YOUR BUSINESS AND YOUR WORK. >> I EVEN HELP HOMELESS. FOR MORE THAN TEN YEARS. >>COUN. DAVIS: YOU NEED TO SPEAK WITH FOLKS AND WE'LL GET FOLKS TO HELP YOU. IF YOU CAN'T FIX THE BUILDING, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO TEAR IT DOWN AND YOU HAVE TO DO IT OR THE CITY WILL DO IT. THEN YOU CAN SELL IT. THEY'RE GOING TO HELP YOU FIGURE THAT OUT. WE'LL WORK ON THAT AND BE BACK TO FIGURE IT OUT IN A FEW WEEKS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BRANDON, YOU MAKE SURE YOU TALKED TO -- I CAN'T REMEMBER YOUR NAME, MA'AM. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET WITH BRANDON BECAUSE HE MIGHT HAVE A RESOURCE FOR IF YOU. WE MET WITH FOLKS THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP YOU WITH REFERENCE TO YOUR SITUATION. HE'LL GET INFORMATION FROM YOU AND THEN WE'LL TRY TO DIRECT YOU TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN -- WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP OUT. AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. WE HAVE AN IMMIGRANT, WE HAVE MINORITY, AND WE HAVE A WOMAN HERE THAT NEEDS SOME HELP. AND YOU KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO IS MAKE SURE WE HELP ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES. TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE GETTING TAKEN CARE OF. I THINK THE DEFERRAL IS GOING TO REALLY HELP HER SITUATION. >> I'M WILLING TO DO ANYTHING. BUT BECAUSE I LIVE BY MYSELF. I HAVE TO DO WHATEVER TO TAKE CARE OF ME AND MY BUSINESS. IT HURT FROM COVID OVER TWO YEARS. I STILL FIGHT FOR MY LIFE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS FOR A DEFERRAL FOR 30 DAYS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. ANY OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. WE'LL SEE YOU IN A FEW DAYS. NEXT UP IS R-81. THIS IS A NUISANCE SUBSTANDARD DWELLING AT 158 CHAMA WITHIN THE CITY THAT IS SO RUINED. I MOVE A DUE PASS. HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS. DIRECTOR, IS THERE ANYTHING FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT? BEYOND WHAT'S IN THE NOTES ? >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>COUN. DAVIS: NO. WE CAN, BUT THEY CAN'T. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING. >> JUST A BRIEF SUMMARY. WE APPRECIATE THE RESOLUTION AND WE CERTAINLY URGE A PASS ON IT. CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN OUT THERE OVER 120 TIMES SINCE THIS PROPERTY CAME TO OUR ATTENTION IN JUNE OF 2019. APD HAS HAD 26 CALLS FOR SERVICE OUT THERE. FIRE RESCUE HAS BEEN OUT THERE SIX TIMES JUST IN THE LAST 12 MONTH. THERE HAVE BEEN THREE FIRES ON THIS PROPERTY AS WELL. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR, HAVE YOU SPOKE WITH THE OWNERS? THIS IS RESIDENTIAL? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I'M REALLY GLAD YOU ASKED THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION. THE ANSWER IS THE OWNER HAS BEEN UNTRACEABLE. WE HAVE LEARNED THAT THE OWNER OF RECORD A MR. GONZALEZ HASN'T BEEN SEEN IN THREE YEARS. THEY'VE BELIEVE HE'S PASSED AWAY. WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET A CONFIRMATION ON THAT. WE'RE SEEING A PATTERN IN ALBUQUERQUE, I THINK IT'S DUE TO THE AGE OF THE CITY WHERE ABANDONENED PROPERTIES WITH UNTRACEABLE OWNERS SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE LEGALABLE REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING DUE PROCESS IN THE NOTICE. WE'RE SEEING THAT MORE AND MORE. AS A MATTER OF FACT THE OTHER TWO RESOLUTIONS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS EVENING ARE SIMILAR AS WELL. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MR. PRESIDENT, IT IS RESIDENTIAL AND IT'S AT THE CORNER OF DOMINGO AND CHAMA. IT'S BOARDED UP. >>COUN. DAVIS: IT'S WELL KNOWN. >> >> NARRATOR: IF YOU . >>COUN. BASSAN: IF YOU CAN PLEASE INCLUDE IMAGES. I THINK IT DOES HELP US. AT LEAST IT HELPS ME BE ABLE TO RELATE TO WHERE THESE ARE AND WHAT IT'S DOING TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND IT. WHEN WE GET THESE, IF WE CAN HAVE THOSE INCLUDED THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. >> THOSE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE INCLUDED. THE PACKET I HAD HAD PICTURES. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DIDN'T MAKE IT INTO THE COUNCIL PACKET AS LEAST AS AN ATTACHMENT TO THE RESOLUTION. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER QUESTIONS ON R-81? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? CARRIES 8-1. COUNCILOR BASSAN, R-83. WE'RE WATCHING THE CLOCK TOO. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE -- AMENDING THE IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE BY APPROVING NEW PROJECTS AND SUPPLEMENTING APPROPRIATIONS AND CHANGING THE SCOPE OF EXISTING PROJECTS. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S SEVERAL AMENDMENTS IN THE iPAD. I DON'T KNOW WHICH ORDER YOU LIKE TO TAKE THEM. I'D LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THIS IS BY REQUEST ON PAGE SIX DELETE LINES 14 THROUGH 23. THIS AMENDMENT REMOVES THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE NEW MEXICO STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT FUND GRANT AWARDICIZE IT'S APPROPRIATED TO THE LAW FORCEMENT PREKZ FUND THROUGH THE CLEAN UP BILL. FUNDING WILL BE APPROPRIATED BY YEAR AS FOLLOWS. I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES. COUNCILOR BASSAN, ANYTHING FURTHER? >>COUN. BASSAN: IF THE COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS I'D BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN. IT SEEMS PRETTY CLEAR TO ME. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANY QUESTIONS? ANYTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE SAY YES. CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE? >>COUN. BASSAN: I DO. I'D LIKE TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. THIS IS BY YES. ON PAGE SIX AFTER LINE 18 INSORT THE FOLLOWING. SECTION FOUR THE FOLLOWING FEDERAL GRANT APPROVED BY THE END OF THE YEAR FUNDING ARE AUTHORIZED. IT'S THE RAIL SPUR VIOLENCE INTERVENTION PROGRAM FOR FACILITIES AND EQUIPMENT AND SIMULATORS AND MATTER CAMERAS. THIS APPROPRIATES$1 MILLION OF FEDERAL FUNDS SECURED BY SENATOR HEINRICH. >>COUN. DAVIS: MULTIPLE SECONDS. CAN I ASK A BRIEF QUESTION OF THE ADMINISTRATION? THIS IS BY REQUEST. THIS IS THE CAPITAL PROGRAM, BUT IS THE VIOLENCE INTERVENTION PROGRAM THE CAPITAL ALLOCATION FROM THE FEDS? THIS IS THE BUILD OUT OF THE GIBSON OFFICE? SHOULD THIS BE IN THE MIDYEAR WITH THE OTHER AMENDMENT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THE VIOLENCE INTERVENTION PROGRAM IS AN OPERATIONAL FUNDING STREAM. I THINK THE IDEA WAS THAT WE HAVE A CLEAN UP BILL WE CAN INCLUDE BUT IT FIT WELL WITH OTHER CLEAN UP BEFORE THE COUNCIL. IT'S REALLY YOUR PREROGATIVE. >>COUN. DAVIS: AS LONG AS IT'S LEGAL IT'S FINE. I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO COME BACK AND MAKE US REVIEW THIS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK IT'S PERKILY -- PERFECTLY LEGAL. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE NEED VIOLENCE NUPGZ INTERRUPTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. THAT MATTER CARRIES. >>COUN. BASSAN: I HAVE ONE MORE. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. ON PAGE TWO AFTER LINE 25 INSERT WYOMING BOULEVARD, THE SCOPE IS EXPANDED TO PLAN DESIGN CONSTRUCT AND ACQUIRE RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM ALAMEDA TO PU PSAEO. I . >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT MAY TAKE FOREVER TO GET IMPLEMENTED. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: IS THERE A SECOND? SEVERAL. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. ANY OPPOSED? COUNCILOR BASSAN, THAT'S YOUR THREE. ANYTHING ELSE? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THERE ARE OTHER AMENDMENTS IN THE iPAD. >>COUN. PEÑA: OUR RULES SAY . >>COUN. DAVIS: I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND OUR MEETING UNTIL 11 P.M. WE MAY NOT NEED IT ALL. BUT TO MAKE IT EASY. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. ANY OPPOSED? THERE WE GO. COUNCILOR PEÑA, NUMBER FOUR. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MINE ARE NUMBERED INCORRECTLY. I'M JUST GOING TO READ THE ONE I HAVE. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. ON PAGE TWO AFTER LINE 21 INSORT THE FOLLOWING DEVARGAS ROAD EXPAND. ON PAGE TWO AFTER LINE 27 INSORT THE FOLLOWING, 98 AND GIBSON INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATING FEDERAL SUFFER -- WITHOUT READING THE WHOLE THING. MOVES GENERAL BLAGZ -- OBLIGATION FUNDS FROM A POSTPONED BUDGET TO COMPLETE THE BUILD OUT OF 98th. IT GIVES A TOTAL OF$1 MILLION IN MY DISTRICT. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANYTHING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. OPPOSED? FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. DO WE HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT? >>COUN. PEÑA: LET ME SEE IF THIS IS -- I DON'T KNOW WHO -- THIS IS THE SAME AMENDMENT? IT LOOKS LIKE THE SAME AMENDMENT. THERE'S THE TWO AMENDMENTS AND LOOK SIMILAR. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. >>COUN. DAVIS: I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHERS. IF YOU HAVE IT, WOULD YOU HELP ME? >>COUN. PEÑA: NO, IT LOOKS -- IT LOOKS DIFFERENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S ONE IN THERE THAT SAYS PENA, BUT IT'S THE APPROVED ONE FROM FGO. >>COUN. DAVIS: OKAY. COUNCILOR BASSAN, I KNOW THIS IS BY REQUEST. WE'RE ON R-83 AS AMENDED. >>COUN. BASSAN: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANY QUESTIONS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT MATTER CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. NEXT UP, COUNCILOR BENTON. R-84. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. NUISANCE SUBSTANDARD DWELLING IN NEED OF ABATEMENT AT 1301 GERALD AVENUE WITHIN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE CITY LIMITS SO DAMAGED AND REQUIRED TO BE REMOVED. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES. COUNCILOR BENTON OR THE DIRECTOR. >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL ASK THE DIRECTOR TO COME UP. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS AT 1301 GERALD SOUTHEAST. IT'S ON THE RADAR WITH THE FIRST NOTICE IN 6-23-21. APPROXIMATELY A YEAR AND A HALF. CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN OUT THERE 80 TIMES. APD HAS HAD 17 CALLS FOR SERVICE AT THAT PROPERTY. FIRE RESCUE HAS BEEN OUT THERE TWICE FOR FIRES. THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY HAS BEEN BOARDED UP 20 TIMES. AND CLEANED UP SIX TIMES AS WELL. THIS PROPERTY IS WELL BEYOND REPAIR. DUE TO JUST INATTENTION FOR YEARS AND YEARS. WE WOULD ASK THAT THE RESOLUTION BE PASSED. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY RIGHT? I'LL ASK COUNCILOR PEÑA'S QUESTIONS FOR HER. I SHARE THE CONCERN ABOUT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. I KNOW I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY OR ANYTHING. BUT I HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS BEING A NUISANCE. YOU KNOW, IN GENERAL TERMS JUST TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH WHAT COUNCILOR PEÑA WAS TALKING ABOUT, THE HOME WISE PROGRAM IS GREAT. BUT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE ANSWER TO A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES. TO ME, AND THE QUESTION I KEEP ANSWERING, OR TRYING TO ANSWER AND NEVER HAVE THE ANSWER FOR CONSTITUENTS WHO ASK ABOUT THEM, THE QUESTION IS WHY CAN'T THE CITY JUST CONDEMN THE PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE WHICH WOULD BE TO ELIMINATE THE NUISANCE, AND REHAB ILITATE THE PROPERTY EVEN IF IT'S GUTTING IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO STRIPPING IT DOWN TO THE BARE WALLS. AND OFFER IT FOR RESALE AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SOME KIND OF PUBLIC BENEFIT PURPOSE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S EVER BEEN DISCUSSED? >> AS A MATTER OF FACT YOUR TIMING IS IMPECCABLE, WE'RE WORKING WITH LEGAL TO MAKE SURE STATE STATUTES ALLOW US. FOR EXAMPLE, THIS ONE WHEN IT'S ALL SCRAPED IT'S WORTH $45,000. IT'S NOT A LARGE LOT. DEMOLITION MAY RUN $30,000. THE AMOUNT OF THE LEAN IT ALMOST THE AMOUNT OF THE PROPERTY. THE CITY IN THE PAST HAS NOT FORECLOSED ON THE LARGE LEAN. THEY WAIT UNTIL THE SELLER IS TRYING TO SELL IT AND THEY PUT A LEAN THAT HAS TO BE PAID OFF. THIS IS ANOTHER SITUATION WHERE IT'S AN ABSENTEE MISSING OWNER. WE PROVIDE THE LEGAL NOTICE AND PUBLISH IN THE NEWSPAPER ONCE A RESOLUTION IS PASSED. THIS I BELIEVE ARE TEST CASES FOR GOING THROUGH THE ACTUAL FORCLOSER PROCESS. THERE'S A NINE-MONTH REDEMPTION PROCESS. WE SCRAPE THE PROPERTY, GO TO DISTRICT COURT, SEEK TITLE FOR THE PROPERTY. HOLD ON FOR THE PROPERTY FOR THE REDEMPTION PROCESS AND CROSSING THE FINGERS AND HOPING SOME OWNER STEPS FORWARD AND SAYS I'LL TAKE IT. AND PUTS IT BACK INTO GOOD USE. IF NOT, WE'RE SGEET IF WE CAN GET TITLE TO IT AS YOU SAID FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE. AT THAT POINT WE PUT IT UP. EITHER PUT IT IN THE MRA DEVELOPMENT. WHERE WE PROVIDE INCENTIVES FOR SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT. OR AT LEAST TO GET IT SOLD. THERE'S MANY COMPANIES OUT THERE WHO I THINK IF THE PRICE POINT WAS RIGHT, BUT WOULD PICK UP PROPERTIES AND PILLED BUILD THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE NEED RATHER THAN MORE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES. >>COUN. BENTON: IT'S A WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S A FABLED NEIGHBORHOOD. I'VE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES I'VE TRIED TO INTERVENE AND TRY TO SOMEHOW BAIL THEM OUT, I REMEMBER A WONDERFUL HISTORIC PROPERTY ON BARELAS ROAD THAT WE SCRAPED. I GUESS SOMETHING IS DOING SOMETHING WITH IT AT THIS POINT. IT ACTUALLY HAD HISTORIC VALUE. IF WE COULD HAVE INTERVENED, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN SAVED. AND THEY COULD HAVE STILL BUILT OTHER HOUSES. I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN THAT. AND MAYBE COUNCILOR PEÑA AND I CAN MEET WITH YOU AND REALLY UNDERSTAND THIS AND SEE HOW WE CAN HELP. OR WHAT SORT OF PROGRAMS IN OUR HOUSING PROGRAMS. TRY TO DO SOMETHING INOIVATIVE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE WELCOME THAT OPPORTUNITY. TRY TO GET THE PROPERTIES BACK INTO -- >>COUN. BENTON: IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK I'M GOING TO MOVING A DUE PASS. >>COUN. PEÑA: IF I CAN JUMP IN AND MAKE A COMMENT, MR. PRESIDENT? JUST TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR BENTON, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT WAS BY MY AUNT'S FORMER HOUSE. A REALLY NICE LITTLE HOUSE AND IT HAD BEEN ABANDONENED YOU ENDED UP DEPAULISH AND NOW THERE'S ENCAMPMENT THERE. IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO SALVAGE THE HOUSE BUT PROVIDE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP AND ALSO MAKE SURE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS PRESERVED BECAUSE LIKE I SAID THIS ONE EXAMPLE I GIVE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO HELP. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I'M AWARE OF SOME PROPERTIES LIKE THAT. WE HAD ONE WHERE WE DEMOLISHED A COUPLE OF DUPLEXES. THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS OUT IN THE LAWN CHAIRS WATCHING IT GET DEMOLISHED. THEY WERE HAPPY BECAUSE THE DRUG USE AND CRIME OF THE PROPERTY, WE SCRAPED THE LOT AND PEOPLE STARTED TAKING THE CRIME OUTDOORS INSTEAD OF INDOORS. WHICH MAKES IT EASIER TO DEAL WITH. BUT ABSENT EMERGENCY FENCING OR OTHER MEASURES LIKE THAT WHICH I ASSUME THE COUNCIL CAN HELP US WITH, WE KNOW THERE'S A THREE-FOOT FENCE HEIGHT LIMITATION. IF THAT WAS RAISED TO FIVE OR SIX FEET FOR A SITUATION LIKE THAT, I THINK WE COULD PUT A FENCE AROUND IT THAT COULD PREVENT A LOT OF THAT FROM HAPPENING. >>COUN. PEÑA: I SUPPORTED THAT AMENDMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: DIRECTOR, I DON'T. SO, HERE WE GO. ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT MATTER? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. OPPOSED? 8-1. WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING REALLY QUICKLY. IN OUR HASTE TO DO ALL THE THINGS. MS. YARZA SIGNED UP WITH OUR PREVIOUS SPEAKER WHICH IS THE PROPERTY ON SAN MATEO. WE MISTAKEN BELIEVED SHE WAS HERE FOR OTHER THINGS. WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW HER TO DO THAT FOR HER TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. I APOLOGIZE FOR SKIPPING YOU. I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR ROLE. YOU'VE BEEN SO HELPFUL. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME AND OPPORTUNITY. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW WHO I AM I'M A BUSINESS OWNER IN ALBUQUERQUE BUT I FOUNDED THE ASIAN BUSINESS COLLABORATIVE. WE'RE A NON-PROPERTY DEDICATED TO SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT FOR ASIAN AMERICANS IN A CULTURAL COMPETENT WAY. THE DPOEL OF US BEING HERE TODAY IS THAT THANKS TO COUNCILOR DAVIS'S COMMUNITY OF SUPPORT HE AND HIS TEAM HAVE INTRODUCED US TO -- AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROPERTY IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF HER WAY OF LIFE AS A BUSINESS OWNER. AND IT IS A CLASSIC STORY OF THE AMERICAN DREAM. THIS IS AN ASSET AND ONE OF HER ONLY FEW ASSETS. SHE OWNS A RESTAURANT ON CARLISLE AND INDIAN SCHOOL AND HER RENT IS$2200 WITH ONE EMPLOYEE. OUR ORGANIZATION WAS A CONCEPT AT THE HEIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC. SHE RECEIVED NO FUNDING, NO PPP. DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEW MEXICO FINANCE AUTHORITY AND THE IDO LOANS ARE. THIS IS A CRITICAL TIME FOR US TO STEP IN. WE DO APPRECIATE THE DEFERMENT. HERE'S THE CHALLENGE I WANTED TO BRING UP. I STUBBORNLY FOUGHT FOR MY TIME. WE'RE PARTIALLY FUNDED BY ALBUQUERQUE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE EARMARK ON THE BUDGET. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE SEEN IS THAT SOME OF OUR DEPARTMENTS ACCIDENTALLY EXCLUDE OUR ASIAN COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO CONVERSATIONS ABOUT COMPLIANCE. WE SAW HER LETTER THAT SHE HAD RECEIVED, OF COURSE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN BUT THIS IS NOT IN HER NATIVE LANGUAGE. WE SEEN ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH FIX MULTIPLE ISSUES WITH THEIR LANGUAGE ACCESS BECAUSE OUR ASIAN BUSINESS OWNERS CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH FORM SAYS SO WE TRANSLATED IT FOR THEM AND WE OFFERED IT TO ASIAN BUSINESSES. I ASK TO SINCERELY LOOK AT ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE APPRECIATE IT. YOU'VE DONE AAMAZING WORK AND ADVOCACY. AND WE HAVE TO DO PORE. THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT AND STICKING AROUND WITH US. NEXT UP IS R-85. LUM -- >>COUN. BENTON: NUISANCE SUBSTANDARD STRUCTURE AT 3709. LOMBARDI. WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. THAT IS TO BE REQUIRED TO BE REMOVED. I MOVE A DUE PASS. DIRECTOR. >> THIS ONE MIGHT HAVE A HAPPY HENDING. AFTER ALL. THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE OWNER OF THIS ONE. THE OWNER WAS AN OWNER OUT OF CALIFORNIA. AND SHE'S WORKING WITH THE GROUP TO DEMOLISH THE PROPERTY HERSELF AND CREATE A COMMUNITY GARDEN FOR AT-RISK WOMEN. THE DEPARTMENT WOULD REQUEST IF MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR BENTON IF YOU CONSIDER A 30-DAY DEFERRAL. SDMRB THANK YOU . >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. I MOVE A 30-DAY DEFERRAL. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR LEWIS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. I'M REAL FAMILIAR WITH LOMBARDI. I GREW UP IN THAT AREA. RIGHT BEHIND THAT ADDRESS THERE'S A MASSIVE OPEN LOT. IS THAT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROPERTY? DO YOU KNOW? >> I'M NOT SURE. BUT THIS -- >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM TO BUILD AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. IT'S REALLY BIG. >> I'M SORRY. COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, IT MIGHT BE, BUT I'M NOT POSITIVE. THIS PROPERTY HAS TWO STRUCTURES ON IT. I WAS LOOKING AT IT THROUGH GOOGLE MAPS TODAY. AND THERE'S A LARGE FIELD AREA THERE. IT MAY BE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN LIKE THAT FOR QUITE SOME TIME. YEARS, I THINK. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ YES. CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN OUT TO THIS ADDRESS 209 TIMES. APD HAS BEEN OUT THERE 13 TIMES. AFR ONCE FOR FIRE. AND THIS ONE ALSO HAS BEEN BOARDED UP AND REBOARDED UP TO THE TUNE OF 19 TIMES AT THE THE COST OF THE TAXPAYERS. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: MOTION FOR 30-DAY DEFERRAL. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND SECOND FOR 30-DAY DEFERRAL MFL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. THAT MATTER PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. R-94. >>COUN. BASSAN: AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF GRANT FUNDS FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY AND PROVIDING A -- IN FISCAL YEAR 2023. I MOVE A DUE PASS. MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD -- DIRECTOR SIMON STAYED THIS WHOLE TIME IF HE WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING I INVITE HIM TO DO SO. AT THE SAME TIME, I MEAN, I'M ALWAYS A FAN OF GRANT FUNDS BEING USED IN ALBUQUERQUE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. THAT MATTER CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO YOUR FAVORITE TOPIC TONIGHT. MR. MELENDREZ. EXPLAIN WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO TIDY UP THE RECORD. >> ON O-67 WHICH THE COUNCIL VOTED ON EARLIER TONIGHT. ITEM D. WE SHOULD HAVE DONE A RULES SUSPENSION. BECAUSE THAT ITEM WAS SUBSTITUTED. IN ORDER TO GET FINAL ACTION ON THAT COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH THE MOTION OF SUSPENDING THE RULE. THE ITEM PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. JUST TO CLEAR THE RECORD, I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST FOR SOMEONE TO MOVE FOR A RULES SUSPENSION AND TAKE A VOTE ON THAT AND IT WILL BE DONE. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR GROUT MOVES A SUSPENSION TO VOTE ON THAT. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. THAT MATTER CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE GOOD? THAT COVERS US? >> MR. PRESIDENT WRERB YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT CATCHING THAT. NEXT WE HAVE COUNCILOR BENTON, KNL, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. R81 IS AMENDING ARTICLE ONE SECTION TEN OF THE CITY COUNCIL RULE OF PROCEDURE TO ATTENDANCE. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MOTION AND A SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: AND LET'S SEE -- >>COUN. DAVIS: THERE'S AN AMENDMENT. I BELIEVE FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. HONESTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS AMENDMENT AND IT'S JUST TO STRIKE SEVEN DAYS. PAGE ONE LINE TEN STRIKE SEVEN DAYS. I SAY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I HAD TO ATTEND VIA ZOOM AND EVERYONE WAS HERE IN FULL COUNCIL IT WAS BECAUSE I HAD COVID, I WOULDN'T HAVE HAD SEVEN DAYS NOTICE TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE PRESIDENT. I THINK AS LONG AS ADVANCED NOTICE IS PROVIDED FOR EACH OCCURRENCE THEY CAN ATTEND VIRTUALLY UP TO FIVE TIMES PER YEAR IF THE COUNCIL IS IN PERSON. JUST I WOULD LIKE TO URGE YOUR SUPPORT TO STRIKE SEVEN DAYS. >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL SECOND THAT. I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION OF STAFF ON THAT. JUST AS FAR AS THE LOGISTICS OF WHEN A COUNCILOR WANTS TO EXERCISE THE ABILITY TO DO THIS. WOULD AN IMMEDIATE NOTICE? OR VERY SHORT? I KNOW I GUESS WE'RE EQUIPPED TO DO THIS NOW WITH ZOOM. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON YES. SO, ALL OF OUR MEETINGS NOW ARE HYBRID. WHEN WE'RE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE PEOPLE IN, AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT HAVING A TECHNICAL GLITCH WHICH WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL NOT HAVING TOO MANY LATELY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADD SOMEBODY TO OUR MEETING ANY TIME REALLY THAT WE GET PEOPLE COMING IN SIGNING UP TO SPEAK AND COMING IN FOR THE ITEM AND JUMPING OUT. SO, AS LONG AS WE KNOW TO LOOK FOR THAT PERSON IN THE QUEUE BEFORE THE MEETING, WE CAN LET THEM IN. AS FAR AS STAFFING THE ONLY CHANGE THAT IT ACTUALLY MAKES FOR THE PEZ -- IS THE PRESIDENT TO BE MINDFUL OF THE MONITORS AND FOR VOTING EVERY TIME WE HAVE A VIRTUAL PARTICIPANT WE NEED TO DO ROLL CALL VOTING. WE CAN BE PREPARED TO DO THAT AT ANY TIME AS WELL. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I JUST LIKE TO ASK THE SPONSORS A QUESTION AS TO WHY FIVE DAYS? IF YOU GET NINE TIMES FIVE THAT'S 45 DAYS SOMEBODY IS NOT GOING TO BE IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS UP TO 45 DAYS. IT COULD BE ENDING UP THAT WAY. I THINK FIVE DAYS A LITTLE BIT MUCH. TWO OR THREE DAYS WOULD BE MORE ACCURATE IN TERMS OF THE FACT WE NEED TO BE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC. JUST MAKING THAT COMMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: I HEAR A COUPLE COMMENTS. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ENFORCE THIS ANYWAY. IF YOU'RE NOT HERE, YOU'RE NOT HERE. YOU'RE EXCUSED. I'M NOT SURE WE WOULD TELL SOMEBODY THERE COULDN'T. I UNDERSTAND THERE NEEDS TO BE EXPECTATION. COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I THINK OUR AUDIENCE WATCHES US ON ZOOM. IF WE'RE ON ZOOM, IF WE'RE HERE OR THEY ARE -- OR THEY'RE LIVE, IT'S GOING TO BE PROD CAST EVERYWHERE IMMEDIATELY IN REAL TIME. I DON'T THINK IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, MR. SANCHEZ. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BE VERY PLEASED NOT TO HAVE TO COME MEET WITH US. OR SEE US. I THINK IT'S THE WAY THE WORLD IS GOING. YOU CAN SEE THE MEETINGS WE HAVE. HOW MANY OF THEM ARE BETTER ACCEPTED VIA ZOOM THAN THEY ARE IN PERSON? YOU DON'T GET AN AUDIENCE ANYMORE. IT'S THE WAY THE WORLD IS. I'M OLDER THAN ALL OF YOU AND IT SEEMS WRONG HE BUT IT'S THE WAY IT IS. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO CAUSE ANY HARM. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I THINK WE'RE BEING A LITTLE BIT LAZY TOWARD OUR TAXPAYERS AND OUR CONSTITUENTS TO ACTUALLY TAKE FIVE. I'D BE MORE APT TO SEE TWO OR THREE. MY COMMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'MIGATE GO TO COUNCILOR PEÑA AND COUNCILOR GROUT AND WE'LL SEE WHERE THIS GO. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR LEWIS IS STILL BEFORE ME. >>COUN. PEÑA: GO AHEAD. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE HERE IN THESE MEETINGS. AND THE COMMENT ABOUT PEOPLE WOULD RATHER, MAYBE THERE'S PEOPLE RATHER BEING ONLINE. I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT COULD BE A HINDRANCE FOR SOMEBODY AS WELL AND KEEP PEOPLE FROM PARTICIPATING. YOU HAVE TO ADMIT THERE MIGHT BE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING IF THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE IN HERE. WE SLOOT REAL QUICK WHAT IS THE CURRENT POLICY ON THIS? THIS IS THE PRESIDENT'S DISCRETION? I KNOW COUNCILOR BASSAN HAD JOINED US RECENTLY ONLINE. AND I BELIEVE PARTICIPATED AND I THINK MEMBER -- I REMEMBER YOU COULD CALL IN BUT NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE. IS IT THE DISCRETION OF THE PRESIDENT? >> THE RULES DON'T ADDRESS THIS. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS COME UP WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT THE RULES ARE SILENT ON WITH RESPECT TO WHETHER OR NOT VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE COUNTS AS ATENSED ATTENDANCE. I THINK IT'S EXERCISED BY THE PRESIDENT. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO ALLOW THE FLEXIBILITY. I SEE THIS AS GIVING THE COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO GIVE GUIDANCE ON WHAT IT LOOKS TO SEE HERE. BEFORE WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A VIRTUAL INTERFACE WITH A VIDEO INTERFACE THERE WAS THE ABILITY TO PHONE IN TO A MEETING AND THAT WAS AT THE PRESIDENT'S DISCRETION. THAT IS ARTICULATED WITHIN THE RULES THAT THE PRESIDENT CAN AUTHORIZE A PHONE IN WITH SOME PARAMETERS IN THE CASE OF EMERGENCY AND IN CASE OF A MAJOR LIFE EVENT. I THINK THERE'S ONE OTHER PARAMETER. THE RULES ADDRESSED THAT FOR PHONE IN BUT NOT FOR THE VIDEO PLATFORM. >>COUN. LEWIS: I THINK IN THE PAST THE EXPECTATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN IF THERE'S A LIVE MEETING LIKE THIS THE EXPECTATION IS COUNCILORS ARE HERE. THE ONLY THING ABOUT THIS IS WITH THE ABILITY TO TAKE FIVE MEETINGS AND MAN I'D LOVE TO GO TO MONTANA FOR FOUR MONTHS AND CALL IN ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY RESPECTFUL OF OUR CITY OR OF THE COUNCIL. ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE MAKING PLANS TO BE HERE. I THINK I'M OPEN TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS IF WE CAN PUT IN THERE THAT THE EXPECTATION IS THAT WHEN WE HAVE LIVE MEETINGS WE'RE TO BE HERE. THE EXPECTATION IS TO BE HERE AND PRESENT JUST LIKE WE WANT PEOPLE THAT CAN TO BE ABLE TO COME AND PARTICIPATE IN THE WAY. AND PROBABLY NOT FIVE IN THAT REGARD. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WOULD THE SPONSOR BE OPEN TO THREE? >>COUN. DAVIS: LET'S LET THE SPONSOR RESPOND AND WE'LL GO AROUND. >>COUN. BENTON: I WOULD SAY I STARTED OUT WITH A DIFFERENT NUMBER. AND ONE OF THE CO-SPONSORS WAS INTERESTED IN FIVE. THAT'S THE WAY WE RAN WITH IT. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE REAL KEY IS NO MATTER HOW MANY WE PUT IT, IF FIVE IS TOO MUCH WE CHANGE IT THE NEXT TIME. IN REALITY, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING ANYWAY. I THINK THAT'S THE WAY THE WORLD'S GOING. WE'RE GOING TO BE STARTING TO DO PARTIALLY ZOOM AND PARTIALLY LIVE AND HOWEVER IT WORKS. PEOPLE HAVE JUST AS MUCH OPPORTUNITY, IF NOT MORE TO INTERACT WITH US WHEN WE ARE ON ZOOM OR NOT. THEY DON'T COME DOWN AND INTERACT WITH US. BUT THEY CAN MUCH MORE COMFORTABLY IF WE'RE DOING IT ANOTHER WAY. I FIRST OF ALL WOULD HOPE THE COUNCILORS WOULDN'T FEEL THE NEED TO TAKE OFF ALL FIVE DAYS. BUT IT IS NICE TO HAVE THAT IN CASE OF EMERGENCIES OR OTHER PLANS THAT THEY CAN'T GET OUT OF. I DON'T THINK IT'S EXCESSIVE. BUT IF BECOMES EXCESSIVE WE JUST CHANGE IT. WE HAVE THE RIGHT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR GROUT, I'M SORRY I PASSED YOU EARLIER. >>COUN. PEÑA: I WAS GOING TO SAY, SOME PEOPLE HAVE HEALTH ISSUES. SOMETIMES I SUFFER FROM MIGRAINES AND I COME TO THE MEETINGS LIVE AND IN PERSON SUFFERING. IT IS GOOD TO BE ABLE TO ZOOM IN FOR THOSE REASONS AS WELL. AND I THINK COUNCILOR JONES SAID IT, TIMES ARE CHANGING AND I THINK JUST TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY WHERE YOU COULD SIT BACK A LITTLE BIT AND NOT HAVE TO BE HERE IN PERSON. BECAUSE WE ATTEND, PROBABLY WITH COMMITTEES AND ALL, WE ATTEND 24 -- LIKE 50-SOME MEETINGS IN ADDITION TO COMMISSION MEETING AND MEETING THE ADMINISTRATION. AND COMMUNITY EVENTS, WE ATTEND A LOT OF MEETINGS. I THINK FIVE MEETINGS IS GOOD WITH THE EXPECTATION WE'RE HERE LIVE AND IN PERSON. I AGREE WITH TAT. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THIS ABILITY OF REPRIEVE MEDICAL CONDITIONS OR JUST SOMETHING. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR GROUT AND JUST A REMINDER WE ONLY HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO DO THIS. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHEN I WAS ELECTED I KNEW THAT MY EXPECTATION WAS TO BE HERE EVERY TWO WEEKS. AND I HAVE MADE MY PLANS AROUND THAT. I'D LIKE TO GO OUT OF TOWN AND SEE MY GRANDKIDS BUT I'M BACK HERE ON MONDAYS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO. I THINK IF I'M SICK THAT'S ONE THING. IF I NEED TO PLAN AROUND THIS OBLIGATION, I THINK FIVE MEETINGS IS A LOT. I WOULD BE MORE OPEN TO A COUPLE. AND WE VAULS IF WE'RE SICK WE KNOW WE'RE EXCUSED. THAT'S MY OPINION. >>COUN. DAVIS: OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: I WOULD JUST POINT OUT IT'S IMPLIED BY ANOTHER COUNCIL PERSON THAT SPOKE, THE PERCEPTION IS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD IF SOMEONE WERE TO ABUSE THIS. I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILOR PEÑA AND I DO WITH THE DEMANDS AND SO FORTH. YOU KNOW THIS POSITION WAS ORIGINALLY IMAGINED AS A PART-TIME JOB. AS SOMETHING YOU CAN DO AND STILL COMPLETELY LIVE YOUR LIFE IN A REGULAR MANNER. AND I'M HERE TO SAY, AT LEAST FOR ME AND MY DISTRICT, THAT HAS NOT BEEN THE CASE. I CERTAINLY WOULD NEVER WANT TO MISS OUT ON THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND A MEETING, BUT SOMETIMES AS MY LIFE CHANGES, THERE'S MORE OFTEN TIMES WHEN I FEEL LIKE I NEED THAT ABILITY, THAT FLEXIBILITY THAT COUNCILOR PEÑA WAS DESCRIBING. >>COUN. DAVIS: I THINK WE'RE STILL ON COUNCILOR BASSAN'S AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT WHICH WE NEED TO DO. OR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EXTEND THIS MEETING. >>COUN. BASSAN: I LIKE TO CHANGE MY AMENDMENT. I'D LIKE TO CHANGE MY AMENDMENT TO STRIKE SEVEN DAYS AND READ EACH COUNCILOR MAY VIRTUALLY ATTEND UP TO FIVE PER CALENDAR YEAR SO LONG AS ADVANCED NOTICE IS PROVIDED TO THE PRESIDENT FOR EACH OCCURRENCE. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. DAVIS: THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS DISTRIBUTED. THEY'RE IN THE iPADS. WE HAVE MULTIPLE SECONDS. >>COUN. PEÑA: DOES ANYBODY WANT TO TRADE WATER WITH ME? THE WATER. >>COUN. DAVIS: AS WE ALWAYS HAVE, IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SWAP WITH SOMEBODY JUST SEND THAT ALONG AND WE CAN DO THAT ON THE FLY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE COMMITTEE APPROVAL SAY YES. ANY OPPOSED? I THINK WE'RE DONE. AND WE GOT ALL THE LEGAL THINGS RIGHT. THERE BEING NO MORE FURTHER BUSINESS THIS CITY COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED.