SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT 5 VACANCY FORUM, [ INAUDIBLE ]. [ INAUDIBLE ] WHO WILL BE YOUR VOLUNTEER, IS THE ONE KIND OF VOLUNTEERING, [ INAUDIBLE ]. EVERYBODY GIVE DAVE A HAND. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU, EDWARD. YES, MY NAME IS DAVID TOLEDO, I AM A VOLUNTEER WITH UNIFIED OUTREACH, I'M HAPPY TO STEP IN AS MODERATOR TONIGHT. I JUST WANT TO -- I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CANDIDATES FOR MAKING IT DOWN HERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TRAFFIC ON I-5. FOR THOSE THAT ARE TUNING IN THROUGH THE SEATTLE CHANNEL, THERE UNFORTUNATELY IS NOT AN AGENDA POSTED, BUT JUST TO QUICKLY LET YOU KNOW HOW THINGS WILL GO, UM, WE ARE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO IT. MOST OF THE QUESTIONS WILL HAVE A ONE MINUTE TIME LIMIT . ANYONE THAT GOES OVER THE ONE MINUTE WILL HEAR A BELL AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT. BASICALLY, WE ARE GOING TO START OUT WITH QUESTIONS FROM THE HOST, MYSELF, THAT WILL RUN UNTIL 6:50. THEN WE WILL GO TO A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, THEN WE WILL DO QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE A SPEED AROUND, AND WE SHOULD END UP FINISHING AT 8:00 P.M. ON THE NOSE. WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE THE CANDIDATES. I'M SORRY, I'M A LITTLE UNORGANIZED HERE, TOO MANY PAGES. AND THEN I WILL HAVE EACH CANDIDATE DO A ONE MINUTE INTRODUCTION. SO, FIRST, LET ME INTRODUCE JAMES BERNIE -- CORY, I AM SORRY, I AM ALREADY BLOWING IT. JIM, [ INAUDIBLE ], JULIE, ROB WILSON, KATIE, AND DEBRA JUAREZ. LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH JIM, GO AHEAD AND TAKE A ONE MINUTE INTRODUCTION. >> THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT, IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU ALL. IT'S GREAT HOW DEMOCRACY WORKS. SOMETIMES YOU FEEL CHALLENGED. I AM JIM BOUREY. I AM INTERESTED IN APPLYING FOR THIS POSITION BECAUSE I REALLY THINK MY EXPERIENCE WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR THE CITY, MY CITY, TOWER CITY, AND FOR THE DISTRICT AS WELL. [ INAUDIBLE ] IN PLANNING, I WORKED FOR A DECADE AS A CITY PLANNER, INCLUDING WITH THE CITY OF SEATTLE AND [ INAUDIBLE ]. AND FOR 25 YEARS AS CITY MANAGER IN VARIOUS CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY. AND WHAT THAT DID IS GIVE ME EXPERIENCE [ INAUDIBLE ] VERY, VERY CRITICAL FOR THE CITY OF SEATTLE. PUBLIC SAFETY, LAND USE, HOUSING, HOMELESSNESS ISSUES, AND ESPECIALLY [ INAUDIBLE ] BUDGET SHORTFALLS, SO I THINK THIS EXPERIENCE WILL GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUMP IN. I UNDERSTAND HOW CITIES WORK, I UNDERSTAND [ INAUDIBLE ]. SO, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. >> THANK YOU, JIM. NILU JENKS? >> HELLO, D5, I AM NILU JENKS, YOUR LAKE CITY NEIGHBOR, MOM OF TWO TEENAGERS, AN IRANIAN AMERICAN LIFELONG CITIZENSHIP, AND A LONGTIME ADVOCATE AND I HAVE WORKED ON VIOLENCE PREVENTION , YOUTH AND EDUCATION, AND ALSO ON STRENGTHENING DEMOCRACY. WHEN I RAN TWO YEARS AGO, I KNOCKED ON THOUSANDS OF DOORS AND TALKED TO SO MANY OF YOU, AND WHAT I SAW IS SO OFTEN, OUR SYSTEMS FALL SHORT. THEY ARE SHIPPED MORE BY POLITICAL DYNAMICS AND CAMPAIGNS [ INAUDIBLE ] RATHER THAN OUR DAY-TO-DAY COMMUNITIES. WE NEED TO RE-CENTER OUR COMMUNITY VOICES AND MAKE GOVERNMENT WORK BETTER FOR EVERYONE. SEATTLE ISN'T DYING, IT IS GROWING, BUT WITHOUT LEADERSHIP, THE PLANS FOR THAT GROUP, RISING COSTS, UNSAFE ENCAMPMENTS, AND FOR THAT TRANSIT. WE NEED HOUSING AND TRANSIT OPTIONS, CLIMATE SMART POLICIES, AND PROGRESSIVE REVENUE TO FUND [ INAUDIBLE ]. THAT'S WHY I SPENT THE LAST TWO YEARS WORKING ON DEMOCRACY REFORMS LIKE [ INAUDIBLE ] AND DEMOCRACY VOUCHERS TO RETURN THE POWER BACK TO THE PEOPLE, BECAUSE I WILL ALWAYS SEEK OUT SYSTEMIC SOLUTIONS TO [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> HELLO, JULIE? >> GOOD EVENING. I'M EXCITED AND HONORED TO BE HERE TO SHARE THIS SPACE WITH ALL OF THE CANDIDATES, AND SHOUT OUT TO UNIFIED OUTREACH AT NORTH SEATTLE COLLEGE FOR HOSTING THIS. MY NAME IS JULIE KANG AND I AM SEEKING YOUR SUPPORT. THIS COMMUNITY RAISED MY FAMILY AND THAT IS WHY I AM SERVING AT THIS TIME, I'M STEPPING UP AS THE DAUGHTER OF AN IMMIGRANT AND A PUBLIC SERVANT FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS, I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO WORK HARD, FACE BARRIERS, AND SERVE OTHERS. OUR FAMILY IS DEEPLY ROOTED IN D5. MIKE IN-LAWS ' KOREAN NEWSPAPER, MY HUSBAND'S RESTAURANT, OR FIRST HOME, AND THE COMMUNITY WE COFOUNDED TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES WERE ALL IN D5. I HAVE HEARD CONCERNS FROM NEIGHBORS AND BUSINESS OWNERS ABOUT STAYING SAFE, GIVING BUSINESSES OPEN, BEING ABLE TO AFFORD AND REMAIN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IS AREN'T NEW TO ME. I HAVE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED THE SAME CHALLENGES AND I WILL BRING MY LIVED EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE TO REPRESENT AND ADVOCATE FOR YOU. >> THANK YOU, JULIE. >> HELLO, EVERYONE, MY NAME IS ROB WILSON AND I'M A HUSBAND, FATHER, SUBMARINE VETERAN, PEOPLE MANAGER AT AMAZON, AND A [ INAUDIBLE ] VOLUNTEER. [ INAUDIBLE ] DISTRICT 5 VACANCY BECAUSE I LOVE THE CITY, I LOVE ITS PEOPLE, IN AND I SEE IT'S POTENTIAL. THE WORLD NEEDS PEOPLE TO STEP UP RIGHT NOW AND TO BELIEVE IN THE PROMISE OF OTHERS. I WILL HAVE MANY NEW THINGS TO LEARN IN THIS WORLD AND I DON'T SHY AWAY FROM THEM. LEARNING, GROWING, AND SUCCEEDING IN NEW ROLES IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING ALL MY LIFE IT HELPS TO BE HUMBLE, TO ASK QUESTIONS, AND TO REALLY LISTEN TO OTHERS. WE HAVE GOT HARD PROBLEMS TO SOLVE IN THIS CITY AND I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT WORKING TO SOLVE THEM TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU, ROB. KATY HAIMA? >> HELLO. MY NAME IS KATY HAIMA. I LIVE [ INAUDIBLE ] . THERE'S GUNSHOTS AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK. THERE IS SPEEDING TRAFFIC. [ INAUDIBLE ] MY NEIGHBORS AND I AND BUSINESSES NEAR US WANT CHANGE, WE NEED CHANGE, AND [ INAUDIBLE ]. FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, I WORKED AS [ INAUDIBLE ]. MY JOB IS TO BRING TOGETHER COMMUNITY, TO PLAN FOR GROWTH, ALONGSIDE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO THRIVE. BECAUSE OF THIS [ INAUDIBLE ] ACROSS OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS, [ INAUDIBLE ] TO FIND COMMON GROUND THEM TO MAKE CHANGE. [ INAUDIBLE ] TOGETHER WE CAN IMAGINE AND WE CAN BUILD A BETTER [ INAUDIBLE ]. LOCAL BUSINESSES OR OUR NEIGHBORS. [ INAUDIBLE ] WE CAN HOLD ONTO WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO US, AND THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT [ INAUDIBLE ], THIS IS ABOUT ALL THE COMMUNITIES ACROSS D5 WERE NEIGHBORS ARE WORKING TO IMPROVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I WORK ALONGSIDE ALL THE COMMUNITIES IN D5 AND ACROSS THE CITY [ INAUDIBLE ] . >> DEBORA JUAREZ? >> THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS DEBORA JUAREZ AND I HAVE BEEN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE ABOUT 37 OR 38 YEARS AND I HAVE BEEN AWARE FOR ABOUT THAT LONG. I STARTED AS A PUBLIC DEFENDER, I WAS IN LEGAL SERVICES, THEN I BECAME A JUDGE IN HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE GOVERNORS, AND THEN GO WORK ON WALL STREET, THEN AFTER THAT, [ INAUDIBLE ] WHEN THE DISTRICT SYSTEM OPENED UP MY DECIDED THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO RUN BECAUSE I GOT MY TWO DAUGHTERS OUT OF THE HOUSE, IN COLLEGE, AND AS YOU KNOW, [ INAUDIBLE ] CITY COUNCIL TWO TERMS. SO, THE BIG QUESTION AND I THINK THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS WHO AM I, WHO AM I NOW? AND I WILL SHARE A PERSONAL STORY LATER, BUT QUICKLY, THE PRAGMATIC REASON IS THIS, [ INAUDIBLE ] I AM NOT COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I AM NOT ON SOUND TRANSIT. [ INAUDIBLE ] >> ALL RIGHT, SO, I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE AUDIENCE THAT I KNOW THAT SOME FORUMS REQUEST THAT YOU KEEP QUIET AND ONLY WAVE HANDS WHEN YOU ARE SUPPORTING SOMETHING. WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HONOR THE SPIRIT OF THE COLLEGE, AND IF YOU WANT TO CLAP OR YOU WANT TO CHEER, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT. OKAY? >> [ APPLAUSE ] ALL RIGHT, LET'S START JUMPING INTO QUESTIONS, WE WILL I GUESS IT STARTED AT THIS END WITH JIM BOUREY, THEN WE WILL MOVE DOWN THE LINE. JIM, THE NORTH [ INAUDIBLE ] MALL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS OR THOUGHTS ON KEEPING THAT CONTRACT? >> WELL, AS YOU KNOW , THE PANDEMIC HAD A LOT OF IMPACT ON LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CITY. I LIVE VERY CLOSE [ INAUDIBLE ]. WE WALKED TO THE TRANSIT STATION EVERY MORNING OR WHENEVER WE GO ANYWHERE. AND WITH THE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING . [ INAUDIBLE ] RETAIL WHICH IS NECESSARY BUT I THINK AS A CITY, WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN TO HELP FROM A SENATE PERSPECTIVE, AND ALSO FROM A [ INAUDIBLE ] PERSPECTIVE AS WELL, I THINK WE HAVE SOME MAJOR REFORMS WE NEED TO DO TO FACILITATE [ INAUDIBLE ] IN THE CITY. [ INAUDIBLE ] >> THANK YOU, JIM. NILU ? >> THANK YOU. ONE THING I NOTICED WHEN I GO TO NORTHGATE IS THERE ISN'T A LOT OF COMMUNITY BUILDING THAT HAPPENS THERE, THERE IS IN AS MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, SO ONE THING I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE PLACES TOGETHER, FOR THE SCHOOLS AND THE STUDENTS TO ENJOY. I WOULD ALSO LOVE TO SEE MORE CONNECTEDNESS WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS D5, THAT IS OUR BIGGEST ISSUE, GETTING AROUND OUR DISTRICT FROM EAST TO WEST. IN TERMS OF TRANSPORTATION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CONNECTING OUR ENTIRE DISTRICT AND NOT MISSING JUST ON TRANSPORTATION IN NORTHGATE, BUT ALSO COMMUNITY BUILDING, TOO, THAT IS WHAT I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE. AND ALSO, WE NEED A WORKING ELEVATOR THAT IS CONSISTENT, BECAUSE NOT ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS CAN TAKE THE ESCALATOR. AND RESTAURANTS. >> THANK YOU, NILU . AND I WOULD REPEAT THE QUESTION, LET ME KNOW. OKAY, SO, REGARDING THE NORTHGATE MALL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS OR CONCERNS WITH KEEPING IT ON TRACK? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, NORTHGATE MALL IS ONLY TWO MILES FROM MY HOUSE, AND IT IS HARD TO WALK THERE, IT IS HARD TO TAKE THE STROLLER WITH A BABY IN IT, SO I THINK AS WE THINK ABOUT GROWTH AND COMMUNITY BUILDING OPPORTUNITIES, WE ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, SO I DO LOVE THE IDEA THAT SHE MENTIONED ABOUT COMMUNITY SPACE, AND I SEE THE POSTERS WITH GREEN SPACE, WHICH I LOVE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I ALSO THINK WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, HOW DO WE GET THERE? AND I THINK IT IS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY IF WE DON'T CONNECT THE WEST AND THE EAST SIDE, SO WE HAVE LAKE CITY WAY, BUT HOW DO WE GET FROM THE WEST AND THE EAST SIDE, AND THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS. >> THANK YOU, JULIE. OR ROB? >> I AM SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THE NORTHGATE AREA, I LOVE THIS QUESTION. I WAS AT THE NORTHGATE COMMUNITY CENTER PARTY ON FRIDAY NIGHT WITH THE KIDS, WITH THE COMMUNITY, THERE WAS A MAGIC SHOW. IT IS A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY AND IT DOES HAVE ALL THE POTENTIAL FOR PEOPLE TO COME TOGETHER. I HAVE BEEN SURPRISED FRANKLY AS A RESIDENT IN THE AREA. I TAKE THAT TRAIL EVERY DAY, I WALK PAST IT EVERY DAY. CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN MUCH SLOWER THAN I ASKED [ INAUDIBLE ] BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS CRAWLING A WRONG. [ INAUDIBLE ] STRUGGLING FOR A LONG TIME, WE'RE FINALLY GETTING THE PROMISE OF A TRADER JOE'S, I THINK THAT IS A BIG DEAL. THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT JUST POPPED UP AN OLD HOUSING VENUE, THAT IS GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY. THERE ARE SO MANY GOOD THINGS THERE, BUT WE HAVE GOT TO MOVE FASTER. I THINK THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HIGHLIGHTS AREAS LIKE THAT IN AREAS THAT CAN REALLY TAKE HIGH-RISES. THERE IS NO REASON WE COULDN'T PUT A LOT OF HOUSING IN NORTHGATE. THE RETAIL, THE RESTAURANTS, THE VIBRANT COMMUNITY. I WALK ACROSS THAT BRIDGE TO GET HERE, AND WITH THE AREA BEING SO MUCH OF I-5, WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE THE DENSITY COUNT WHERE WE CAN. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU, ROB. KATY? >> SO, MY COLLEAGUE SAID NORTHGATE IS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD HOUSING COMMUNITIES [ INAUDIBLE ] AS I ALSO MENTIONED, THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH [ INAUDIBLE ]. WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF REALLY LARGE SUPER [ INAUDIBLE ] IN THE AREA, SO IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT WHY ISN'T DEVELOPING HAPPENING [ INAUDIBLE ] AND WHAT CAN WE REALLY DO TO BUMP THAT OPPORTUNITY UP? THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD THINK A LOT ABOUT IN TERMS OF [ INAUDIBLE ], BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, [ INAUDIBLE ] EAST-WEST CONNECTIONS FOR PEDESTRIANS [ INAUDIBLE ]. SO, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES HERE. THINKING ABOUT ALSO, WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE POTENTIAL ISSUES THAT WE ARE RUNNING INTO WITH THE PERMITTING AND HOW CAN WE TRY TO [ INAUDIBLE ] AND THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE LITTLE LINES OF CODE THAT WE ARE GETTING STUCK ON, THAT ARE REALLY PREVENTING US FROM FULFILLING THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WANT TO SEE IN NORTHGATE? >> THANK YOU, KATY. DEBORA ? >> THANK YOU. WELL, FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE HAVE TO GIVE A BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA, [ INAUDIBLE ] THAT WAS ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE WERE WORKING ON BEFORE I LEFT. SECOND, THE NORTHGATE PROPERTY IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, [ INAUDIBLE ] FOR THAT FIRST LIGHT RAIL STATION, NORTHGATE WAS CERTAINLY [ INAUDIBLE ]. AND CERTAINLY WITH THE JOHN LEWIS BRIDGE CONNECTING [ INAUDIBLE ] TO NORTHGATE, THAT WAS PART OF THE [ INAUDIBLE ] . AND THEN OF COURSE, ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES IS THAT WHEN I WORKED WITH MAYOR [ INAUDIBLE ] WHEN WE BOUGHT THOSE EIGHT ACRES [ INAUDIBLE ] , YEAH, THE NORTHGATE COMMONS, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS BEING REPROGRAMMED. THEY ARE TEARING IT DOWN NOW. AND THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE I LEFT , HE COULDN'T GET DONE, SO I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED WHEN I WOULD DRIVE BY AND SAY WHAT HAPPENED? WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET ALL THESE UNITS, [ INAUDIBLE ], AND HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT [ INAUDIBLE ]. AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . ALL RIGHT. ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT QUESTION. JUST DOWN THE STREET, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN FOR MEETING COMMUNITY NEEDS AT THE NEW LAKE CITY COMMUNITY CENTER? AND WE WILL START WITH NILU ON THIS. >> THANK YOU. LAKE CITY IS HOME FOR ME, I GO BY THAT LOCATION ALL THE TIME, A LIBRARY AND A COMMUNITY CENTER. I HAVE TAUGHT STUDENTS AT THE LIBRARY FROM JOHN ROGERS ELEMENTARY BUT I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO SEE THERE IS A PLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN GO, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A SHOWER FOR PEOPLE TO USE IF THEY NEED IT BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A COMMUNITY KITCHEN. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A PLACE FOR CHILDREN TO PLAY, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A LOT OF SENIOR PROGRAMMING, I NOTICED SOMETHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE REALLY WANT, AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A CLIMATE RESILIENCE CENTER. WE ARE NOT REACTING IN TERMS OF PREPARING FOR THE FUTURE AND PEOPLE NEED PLACES TO GO [ INAUDIBLE ] AND NOT EVERYBODY HAS AC HERE, SO THINKING OF SOMEWHERE THAT CAN BRING PEOPLE TO LAKE CITY, TOO, TO HELP SUPPORT OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES IN THE AREA IS ANOTHER GOAL THAT I WOULD HAVE FOR LAKE CITY, JUST MAKE IT A PLACE THAT IS A REAL COMMUNITY HUB, AND NOT SUFFERING LIKE IT IS RIGHT NOW. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU. JULIE? >> YES, I LOVE COMMUNITY CENTERS, AND I RECENTLY ACTUALLY HELPED BUILD A LYNNWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER BY FUNDRAISING, BUT ALSO BY MAKING SURE THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS ARE INCLUDED IN THOSE SPACES, SO THE FACT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE EARLY CHILDHOOD CENTER, AS WELL AS AN ELDERLY -- SENIOR SPACES FOR TECHNOLOGY, LEARNING, AND SO MANY BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS, I THINK THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE REPRESENTATION. WE HAVE WRAPAROUND SERVICES, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO NOT ONLY HAVE A VISION FOR A PLACE, BUT GET THE INPUT FROM THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE COMMUNITY, FROM THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE ALREADY USING AND LIVING IN THAT COMMUNITY, SO I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. AND FOR ALL OF THAT TO HAPPEN, WE NEED PUBLIC SAFETY. WE NEED TO FEEL SAFE TO WALK TO OUR COMMUNITY CENTER AND TO STAY. AND I KNOW TEEN AND YOUTH PROGRAMS, THEY USUALLY STAY UNTIL LATE, AND WE WANT THEM TO FEEL SAFE. >> THANK YOU, JULIE. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> ROB? >> I REALLY LOVE THE D5, SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE PASSION HERE AGAIN THAT AREA IS A WONDERFUL LITTLE TIGER, GROCERY OUTLET, ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT YOU CAN GO TO IN THAT AREA AND ENJOY AND CELEBRATE WITH FAMILY. THE FARMERS MARKET IN THAT AREA IS SO MUCH RICHER THAN I EXPECTED THE FIRST TIME I WENT THERE. IT IS WONDERFUL, THEY HAVE SUCH A SELECTION OF FOODS. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WHEN I READ THE ARTICLE IN SEATTLE TIMES, I SHARE WITH MY WIFE IMMEDIATELY. IT TALKED ABOUT REBUILDING THE COMMUNITY CENTER WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WITH CHILDCARE, WITH OPTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY. HAVING THAT FORETHOUGHT, DON'T JUST PUT BACK THE BUILDING THAT WAS THERE BEFORE, THINK BIGGER, DO MORE FOR THE COMMUNITY. BECAUSE PUBLIC INVESTMENT LIKE THAT CAN HELP CHANGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT THEN DRIVES THINGS LIKE MAKING IT MORE WALKABLE, HAVING MORE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC THERE, AND I THINK THAT COMMUNITY CENTER HAS BEEN REALLY MISSING FROM THE AREA, AND BRINGING IT BACK IS GOING TO BE WONDERFUL FOR LAKE CITY. >> THANK YOU, ROB. KATY? >> SO, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH WHEN THE CITY AND COMMUNITIES WORK TOGETHER. AND REALLY DEMONSTRATE HOW WE ARE [ INAUDIBLE ]. THIS COULD HAVE GONE BACK IS JUST A COMMUNITY CENTER. AND WE KNEW WHAT WE NEEDED WAS MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE AREA. WE FIGURED OUT HOW WE COULD WORK [ INAUDIBLE ] TO WORK ON THOSE PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO FIND FUNDING FOR THE THINGS TO HAPPEN. I'M SO EXCITED FOR THIS TO BE A COMMUNITY FACILITY, AND THERE ARE ALWAYS WAYS WE CAN LOOK TO DO EVEN MORE TO REALLY CELEBRATE OUR RESIDENTS, TO MAKE SURE WE ARE BRINGING IN ARTS AND CULTURE IN THESE COMMUNITIES, NOT JUST WHERE THEY CAN WALK TO THEM, BUT WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET THE RESOURCES THEY NEED. SO, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE EXAMPLES THROUGHOUT D5 AND A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LACKING THEM. >> THANK YOU, KATY. DEBORA ? >> I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT WHEN I RAN, I THINK YOU REMEMBER THIS, DAVID, BACK IN 2015, ONE OF THE THINGS I RAN ON WAS BUILDING A COMMUNITY CENTER AND I GOT THAT DONE. THE COMMUNITY CENTER BELOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON TOP. AND WE ALSO WENT ON A PEDESTRIAN BIKE BRIDGE WHICH IS NOW THE JOHN LEWIS BRIDGE, AND THE POLICE STATION, THAT BECAME ANOTHER ISSUE FOR ANOTHER DAY, AND THE POINT IS WE RAN ON THAT, WE DELIVER THAT, WE STARTED OUR OWN $50 MILLION, WE GOT UP TO LIKE $39 MILLION, AND STARTED LOOKING FOR AN ARCHITECT, AND AS YOU KNOW, MY TERM WAS UP, I WASN'T CHAIRING PARKS ANYMORE, AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT WAS GOING TO GO FORWARD, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW HARD WE WORKED ON THAT. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IT WASN'T JUST ME, BECAUSE I LIVE THERE AND THERE ARE COMMUNITY MEMBERS I CAN SEE OUT AN AUDIENCE WHO WORKED ON THAT. [ INAUDIBLE ] BUT ALSO WANTING THAT SECOND ONE 30th LIGHT RAIL STATION. AND [ INAUDIBLE ] WE ALSO WORKED HARD ON GETTING A SECOND POLICE STATION IN THE NORTH END, THEN AFTER SOME ISSUES, WE DECIDED WE MIGHT DISCUSS A SATELLITE [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . JIM BOUREY, WRAP IT UP. >> [ LAUGHTER ] COMMUNITY CENTERS CAN REALLY BE A FOCAL POINT FOR A COMMUNITY. OBVIOUSLY, LAKE CITY IT NEEDS SOME INFUSION OF ACTIVITY, AND A CENTRAL FOCUS AS WELL. AND I THINK THEY CAN DO THAT. TO ME, THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT ENGAGEMENT, ENGAGING THE PEOPLE, AND ULTIMATELY WHAT IS DONE AT THE CENTER IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO PROGRAM ACTIVITIES, SO IT ISN'T JUST A CENTER THAT HAS ACTIVITY AND LIFE AND VITALITY. I LIKE TO SAY GETTING TO AND FROM PLACES A LAKE CITY CAN BE A CHALLENGE, SO IMPROVING SIDEWALKS, LIGHTING, AND OTHER ISSUES ALSO CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE AS WELL. >> THANK YOU, JIM. UM, AGAIN, IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE, IF YOU WANT TO HOLD THEM UP, APRIL WILL GRAB THOSE FOR YOU. ALL RIGHTY. SWITCHING OVER. NO, ACTUALLY, LET'S KEEP -- LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND HAVE JULIE START THIS ONE. DO YOU SUPPORT FREE RANGE ZONING AND THE PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER THAT WOULD ALLOW THREE AND SIX STORY BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, WHY OR WHY NOT? >> WELL, IT DEPENDS. THE REASON WHY I SAY IT DEPENDS IS BECAUSE YES, SEATTLE NEEDS MORE HOUSING, BUT IT MUST BE DONE AND BE DONE IN A SMART, REALISTIC , AND GROUNDED IN THE NEEDS OF THE FAMILIES LIKE OUR NEIGHBORS. AND DENSITY IS COMING , SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT, ESPECIALLY IN PLACES LIKE LAKE CITY WAY, AND WE DO HAVE TO PREPARE, NOT JUST BY BUILDING MORE UNITS, BUT BY INVESTING IN SIDEWALKS, SCHOOLS, PARKS, AND PUBLIC SERVICES THAT MAKES DENSITY LIVABLE, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE TO CONSIDER HOW WE CAN GROW WITHOUT PUSHING PEOPLE OUT, BUT ALSO, GROWTH SHOULD SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, SO, YES, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING . YES, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE ENGAGE MORE OF OUR NEIGHBORS TO STAY IN THE COMMUNITY? BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT WITH GROWTH IN MIND, BUT BE MINDFUL OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND THE GREEN SPACE AND OTHER FACTORS THAT MAY HINDER THE HIGH-RISES. >> THANK YOU, JULIE. ROB? >> I THINK ONE OF THESE TRANSFORMATIVE EXPERIENCES THAT LED ME TO BEING HERE RIGHT NOW IS GOING TO OLYMPIA DAY SCHOOL AND HEARING THE DISCUSSION OF THE SEATTLE CONFERENCE A PLAN LED BY A PANEL OF EXPERTS. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE WAS THERE, COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF FOLKS FROM THE CITY AND LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE COMP PLAN MEANT TO THEM. THERE WERE FOLKS AND AUDIENCE WHO WERE A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT IS IN THE COMP PLAN, THEY MIGHT NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND IT, BUT HEARING FROM BUSINESS OWNERS THAT TALKED ABOUT HOW HARD IT IS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES TO FIND HOUSING ANYWHERE NEAR THE BUSINESS. THE BUSINESS OWNER THEMSELVES TALKING ABOUT HOW HARD IT IS TO AFFORD IT. WHAT I LOVE TO HAVE MY BUSINESS ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND HOUSING ON THE SECOND FLOOR? YES. BUT THAT'S YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION, WHERE AM I GOING TO LIVE IN THE MEANTIME, HOW CAN I MAKE THIS WORTH -- WORK? I WENT INTO THE MEETING OPEN-MINDED. I CAME OUT LEARNING THAT BUILDING HOUSING UNITS ISN'T SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE SCARED OF. IF ANYTHING, WE ABOUT TO MOVE FASTER ON IT BUT AND IF WE CAN ALIGN THE TRANSIT WITH WHAT WE NEED IN THE COMP LAND, I THINK EVERYBODY'S GOING TO LOVE THE CITY THAT THAT CREATES. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU, ROB. ALL RIGHT, KATY. >> HI, THANKS . SO, I AM A LAND-USE OWNER, SO YES. I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT [ INAUDIBLE ]. HELPED WORK ON THE COMP PLAN, I HELPED WORK ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS. THE WHOLE POINT IS WE ARE ADDING DENSITY WHERE WE HAVE THESE ASSETS THAT WE CAN BUILD ON. THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK TO WHERE THERE ARE ALREADY PARKS, WHERE THERE ARE ALREADY THINGS THAT MAKE IT A WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD SO WE CAN GET GOOD TRANSIT, SO WE CAN GET PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS. WE NEED SO MUCH MORE HOUSING IN THE CITY AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT WITHOUT ADDING MORE CARDS IS TO DO IT IN PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN WALK. THE VISION FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS COMES FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, IT'S MORE DETAILED, IT'S ABOUT THE TYPES OF HOUSING YOU WANT TO SEE, HOW WE WANTED TO LOOK, AND ZONING IS A TOOL WE CAN USE TO SHAPE THAT. SO, I THINK WHEN USED CORRECTLY, THE ZONING CAN ACTUALLY MAKE OUR VISIONS HAPPEN TO MAKE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING WE NEED HAPPEN. AND SO, FOR THAT, I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT ADDITIONAL [ INAUDIBLE ] ZONING. >> THANK YOU, KATY. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> DEBORA ? >> BEFORE -- THAT'S A REALLY INTENSE QUESTION AND IT WILL TAKE MORE THAN A MINUTE, BUT I WILL BE REALLY FAST. THIS IS WHAT I THINK GENERALLY ABOUT ZONING. IN THE 2025 SALE COMP PLAN, THE HALF MILE RADIUS AROUND THE CHILD'S HOME OR YOUR HOME SHOULD BE OUR NORTHSTAR. THE COMP PLAN MUST BE FORWARD-LOOKING AND INTEGRATE UPWARD MOBILITY, UPWARD ECONOMIC MOBILITY, AND I SAY THAT , NOW IT'S GOING TO GET WONKY. BEFORE WE GET INTO ZONING CAPACITY, NEW HOUSING, NEW JOBS, [ INAUDIBLE ], ONE SEATTLE 300,000 ADDITIONAL UNITS THAT MAYOR HARRELL IS LOOKING AT, BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT HOUSE BILL 1110, WHICH WOULD ADD ANOTHER 65,000, AND LOOKING AT NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE ARE 10 NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE COMP PLAN AND D5 THAT IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, BEFORE WE LOOK AT THE MIDDLE HOUSING TYPES, [ INAUDIBLE ] AND PARKING, YOU CAN TELL I HAD THIS JOB BEFORE, I REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO FOCUS ON THE GOOD STUFF, NOT JUST TRANSIT AND COMMUNITY CENTER, BUT WHEN I SAY GOOD STUFF, I MEAN LIBRARIES, PARKS, GREEN SPACE, AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . JIM? >> [ APPLAUSE ] X DENSITY IS INEVITABLE. WE HAVE A CITY THAT IS GROWING AND HAS A LOT OF DEMANDS BECAUSE OF ALL THE EMPLOYMENT AND THE SUCCESS THAT WE HAVE HAD, SO THAT IS A CHALLENGE FOR SURE. HOW YOU DO IT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT, HOW YOU PROVIDE TRANSITIONS TO EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, I SUPPORT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AT THE SAME TIME, AS YOU PROVIDE A MUCH DENSER HOUSING ARRANGEMENT, OBVIOUSLY SUPPORTED BY INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT BEING SAID, TO ME, THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS TRANSPORTATION BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE HAD SUCCESSFUL INVESTMENT THAT WE REALLY NEED, WE NEED TO WRAP THAT UP FURTHER. AND THAT IS SIDEWALKS, IT IS BETTER BUS SERVICE, IT IS EXPANDING THE WAY THAT WE SERVE THE HOUSING THAT WE HAVE TODAY. OTHERWISE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE STREETS THAT ARE ONE MAIN STREETS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY. >> THANK YOU, JIM. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> SO, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF DENSITY. I AM VERY WORRIED ABOUT OUR CLIMATE FUTURE. WE SEE L.A. GO UP IN FLAMES AND WE HAVE WATER, WE ALREADY HAVE CLIMATE REFUGEES LIVING HERE IN SEATTLE. SO, THE REALITY OF THIS JOB IS AND WHETHER OR NOT WE DECIDE [ INAUDIBLE ], WE SEE SEATTLE IS GROWING, WE SEE ENCAMPMENTS, AND RECEIPT ON AFFORDABILITY. THAT JOB IS COMMUNICATING TO THE PUBLIC WHY WE NEED DENSITY, AND [ INAUDIBLE ], IT IS HOLDING THEIR HANDS AND GRIEVING OVER THE ROSE GARDENS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO NEED TO GIVE UP, THAT IS SOMEBODY I REMEMBER KNOCKING ON THEIR DOOR VERY DISTINCTLY. I WILL BE OUT THERE, GRIEVING WITH YOU ABOUT THIS TRANSITION AND THIS FUTURE THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO COME UPON US, BUT IT IS HERE. AND IF WE DON'T BUILD A BETTER FUTURE AND FOR THE FUTURE, OUR CHILDREN WON'T HAVE ONE, OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS WON'T HAVE ONE, SO I INTEND TO ALWAYS -- WHETHER I GET THIS APPOINTMENT OR NOT, BE OUT THERE WITH YOU, GRIEVING ABOUT THIS TRANSITION, BUT ALSO CELEBRATING A FUTURE THAT WE CAN ALL CELEBRATE. I LIVED IN TRIPLE-DECKER'S IN THE BOSTON AREA, AND BELIEVE ME, IT WAS FUN, IT WAS COMMUNITY, AND I LOVED IT, SO -- >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU, NILU. LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUT THESE PADDLES TO USE HERE, SO EVERYBODY HAS GOT A GREEN AND A RED ONE, GET THEM READY. DO YOU SUPPORT THE PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER PLAN IN ROOSEVELT? ALREADY. THANK YOU. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT IS BUILDING THREE TO SIX STORY BUILDINGS IN THAT AREA. ALRIGHTY WHAT IS THAT? IS IT 90th AND ROOSEVELT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO, WAS THAT A PROPER QUESTION OR NOT, I AM NOT SURE? OH, OKAY. [ INAUDIBLE ] ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. WHAT -- AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH ROB. WHAT IS YOUR PLAN FOR -- >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU. >> HEY, I AM JUST A VOLUNTEER, I AM NOT GETTING PAID FOR THIS. [ LAUGHTER ] THANK YOU. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> ALL RIGHT, SO WE WILL START WITH ROB, AND WHAT IS YOUR PLAN FOR REDUCING -- AND I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO TIE THIS IN WITH A COMMENT FROM THE AUDIENCE WERE QUESTION. WHAT IS YOUR PLAN FOR REDUCING GUN VIOLENCE AND THE TRADE ON AURORA, AND I JUST WANT TO ADD THIS AS WELL, IF APPOINTED, WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO HELP THE VULNERABLE WOMEN THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THAT SEX TRADE? AND I'M SORRY, YOU ONLY HAVE A MINUTE, BUT DO YOUR BEST. >> I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE WE NEED THE MOST FOCUS IN DISTRICT 5. ALL OF US WHO DRIVE THERE, WHO TRAVEL AROUND AURORA, IT IS SIDE. AS SOMEONE WITH DAUGHTERS, IT'S JUST HARD TO IMAGINE SOMEBODY ELSE GOING THROUGH THAT IN THEIR OWN LIFE. SO FOR ME, IF THERE IS GUN VIOLENCE, THAT IS ABOUT POLICE AND INVESTING IN POLICING AND BEING SMART ABOUT THE GUN LAWS. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A WIDER DEBATE ABOUT GUNS IN THIS COUNTRY AND IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, WE NEED TO HAVE IT YOUR IN THIS STATE AND THE CITY. ON THE SEX TRADE SIDE, THERE ARE INNOVATIVE IDEAS. OTHER THINGS IN AURORA, SO WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND THE PATTERNS, BETTER UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE BEHIND US, AND HELP COMBAT IT. BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WE HAVE JUST GOT TO GET RIGHT AS A SOCIETY, AND THAT IS ONE OF THEM. SO -- >> THANK YOU, ROB. >> KATY? >> THANK YOU. TWO SIDES OF THIS, WE HAVE GOT ENFORCEMENT AND PREVENTION. SO, ENFORCEMENT, REALLY THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THE HOTSPOTS OF ACTIVITIES HAPPENING. WE ALL KNOW [ INAUDIBLE ] IS ONE OF THEM. DOING THAT BY SHIFTING WHERE WE CAN SOME OF THE DUTIES [ INAUDIBLE ] CIVILIAN FORCES AND EXPANDING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE POLICE WHERE WE NEED THEM. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE TO DO ABOUT PREVENTION, AND A LOT OF THIS DOES GO BACK TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO DESPERATE MEASURES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILY, SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHERE CAN WE EXPAND OUR HOUSING CAPACITY? WHERE CAN WE ALL POWER SUPPLIES, SO PEOPLE ARE FORCED OUT ONTO THE STREET TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS FOR THEMSELVES QUESTION MARK IN THE OTHER THING I WOULD DO IS LOOK AT THE PROGRAMS ALREADY WORKING. WE GOT THE AURORA COMMONS, THEY'RE DOING GREAT WORK, THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CONTINUE TO RESEARCH THE THINGS THAT ARE WORKING, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THAT WORK, AND THE BEST WAYS TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. >> THANK YOU, KATY. DEBORA ? >> THANK YOU. WHEN I WAS ON THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES EVER, WE ALSO MET WITH THE CEO OF AURORA COMMONS, AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 2016 AND EVERY YEAR CYCLE AFTER THAT, WE TRIPLED OUR BUDGET AT AURORA COMMONS FOR SEX WORKERS AND THOSE THAT WANT TO GET OUT IN SEX TRAFFICKING AND WORKING WITH SPG. THE OTHER ISSUE THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT BESIDES THE MONEY FROM THE BUDGET TO ALLOW THEIR EXPANSION, IF YOU NOTICED IT WAS SMALLER, NOW IT IS BIGGER, SO THEY CAN HAVE MORE RESOURCES AND WE CONNECTED THEM WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON SO THEY CAN HAVE MEDICAL RESOURCES, BUT THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE AND I JUST SPOKE TO THIS TO ELIZABETH A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE, IF A WOMAN WANTS TO GET OUT OF THE SEX TRADE, THERE ARE ONLY SEVEN BEDS IN THE WHOLE CITY IF A WOMAN DECIDES THEN AND THERE THAT SHE NEEDS TO GET OUT WHATEVER REASON, VIOLENCE, DRUG ADDICTION, YOU NAME IT, AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PUT WOMEN WHO NEED TO GET OUT OF THE SEX TRADE AND HAVE SOMEWHERE SAFE TO GO, NOT EVEN SAFEHOUSES. SO, THAT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR US AND THAT COMES BACK TO HOUSING. >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . JIM? >> I AM TOTALLY ALL IN ON GUNS AND GUN CONTROL. ABSOLUTELY, ROB, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. PUBLIC SAFETY IS SO IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY, A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH OUR MODEL OF HOW WE POLICE. COMMUNITY POLICING IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, SO HOW THE POLICE OFFICERS ENGAGED WITH PEOPLE IN AURORA, HOW THEY ENGAGE WITH THE SEX WORKERS AND OTHERS IS REALLY CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, AND ALSO THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDED FOR THEM. DRUG TREATMENT AND OTHER SERVICES NEED TO BE RAMPED UP AND MUCH MORE INVESTMENTS THAN WE HAVE TODAY. >> THANK YOU, JIM. >> THANK YOU. I THINK, YOU KNOW, DRIVING DOWN, IT'S ABSOLUTELY A TRAGEDY, AS A MOTHER AS WELL, I FIND IT REALLY HURT. I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IS WOMEN AND GIRLS WHO ARE DOING THIS WORK AND ASKING WHAT THEIR CARE NEEDS ARE AND MAKING SURE THEY HAVE RESOURCES TO TURN TO FOR THEIR CENTERING WHAT WOULD WORK FOR THEM. I ALSO THINK WHEN IT COMES TO GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION, HAVING ORGANIZED THE NATION'S LARGEST GUN BUYBACK IN RESPONSE TO THE PARKLAND SHOOTING, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS JUST DO THINGS AND PASS LAWS AND ADVOCATE, AND ZONING LAWS, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE NOT JUST THROWING MONEY IN POLICING AND WE ARE HAVING A HARD TIME HIRING POLICE. IN THAT CASE, SWITCHING TO ALTERNATIVE RESPONSES. I WANT TO BE SAFER. YOU KNOW, I WANT THINGS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY FUND AND DO RIGHT NOW. WE HIRE POLICE WHAT WE CAN, BUT OUR CARE STEAM BEING EXPANDED IN D5 WAS WONDERFUL, LET'S DO MORE OF THAT. ALBUQUERQUE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB BRINGING ALTERNATIVE RESPONSES, LET'S LATCH ON IN THE SAME WAY THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE, FOR EXAMPLE, REDMOND HAS DONE SOME GREAT EXPANSION OF THEIR RESOURCES AND SEATTLE IS LACKING A LITTLE BIT, WE CAN DO BETTER. >> THANK YOU. JULIE? >> SO, I HAVE TO MAKE A LEFT TURN IN FRONT OF KRISPY KREME EVERY DAY, AND I HAVE SEEN ACCIDENTS. AND AS A MOTHER AND AN EDUCATOR, I REALLY THINK, IS THIS THE BEST FOR SEX WORKERS? AND I TALKED TO ABOUT 50 DIFFERENT SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, AND WE HAVE 101 BODY SHOP THAT HAS CORRIDOR'S BECAUSE THEY SEE GUN VIOLENCE, YOU KNOW, ON A REGULAR BASIS. WE HAVE ROSE CORNER FLOWER SHOP THAT SERVES THE FUNERAL HOMES, AND THEY HAVE A SEX WORKER ARGUMENT, AND THE OWNER GOT SICK. I MEAN, SHE GOT HURT, SERIOUSLY. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE THINK ABOUT, AND I THINK OUR FORMER COUNCILMEMBER HAS STARTED MAKING SOME MOVEMENTS TOWARDS SAFETY, PROTECTING THE PUBLIC, AS WELL AS THE SEX WORKERS, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BUILD ON THAT, SO I DON'T WANT TO START FROM GROUND ZERO I WANT TO BUILD ON WHAT IS ALREADY IN THE PLAN. >> THANK YOU. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND -- LET'S STAY ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY. OTHER THAN AURORA, AND WE WILL START WITH KATY. OTHER THAN AURORA, WHAT ARE THE HOT SPOTS IN DISTRICT 5 THAT ARE ON YOUR RADAR AND WHAT WILL YOU ATTACK FIRST? >> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. IS THIS WORKING? OKAY. THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. I LIVE OFF AURORA, SO IT IS DEFINITELY THE HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR ME. THAT IS DEFINITELY NOT SAYING THAT OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES AS WELL, SO AURORA IS A LONG STRETCH, A LOT OF ISSUES UP AND DOWN AURORA. I THERE ARE STILL SOME ISSUES OVER IN LAKE CITY AND THERE ARE ALSO A LOT OF ISSUES AND PLACES THAT THEY MOVE, YOU KNOW? WE SWEEP THEM AWAY AND THEY JUST POP UP SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO, I THINK THAT ADDRESSING THESE PLACES ONE BY ONE AND THOSE AREAS THAT ARE HOTSPOTS IS IMPORTANT. I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE DON'T JUST KEEP SWEEPING THINGS FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER PLACE AND REALLY DEALING WITH THESE SYSTEMIC ISSUES AT THE ROOT. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANKS, SO AGAIN, I AM GOING TO BRING US BACK TO HOUSING, AND I REALLY THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET PEOPLE IN HOUSING TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING. KEEPING PEOPLE IN HOUSING, BUT ALSO GETTING PEOPLE BACK INTO HOUSING. >> THANK YOU, KATY. DEBORA ? >> THANK YOU. SO, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION AGAIN ABOUT CRIME? WHAT WAS IT EXACTLY? >> OTHER THAN AURORA, WHAT ARE THE HOTSPOTS IN DISTRICT 5 THAT ARE ON YOUR RADAR AND HOW WOULD YOU ATTACK THOSE PROBLEMS? >> SO, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE CRIME IN AURORA AND WE HAVE SINCE [ INAUDIBLE ]. BUT IN BETWEEN AURORA AND LAKE CITY WAY, THERE IS A LOT OF LAND AND A LOT OF LIFE AND A LOT OF CRIME THAT HAS GOTTEN WORSE SINCE I HAVE LIVED HERE. WITH GUN VIOLENCE , WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE ASSAULTS, WE HAVE HAD SHOOTINGS, WE HAVE HAD HOMICIDES, WE HAVE HAD OUR VIEWS, SO LAKE CITY WAY, IF PEOPLE KNEW HOW MUCH I HAD TO WORK TO KEEP SOME FOLKS FROM DUMPING MORE TINY HOUSE, LOW-LEVEL HOUSING ONTO LAKE CITY WAY AND IN BETWEEN AURORA AND LAKE CITY WAY, AND IT ISN'T THAT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE WHO ARE BEING HOUSED ARE CRIMINALS, IT IS SOMETIMES WHAT IT ATTRACTS. AND WE WORKED HARD TO TRY TO GET A SECOND -- A NEW POLICE STATION, SO WE COULD HAVE THE WEST OF I-5 OR EAST OF I-5. AND SOME OF YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD TO LOCK THE BUNKER AND IT GOT REALLY, REALLY UGLY, DEATH AND ALL KINDS OF THREATS TO ME. SO, I WANTED TO REVISIT THAT, BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU HAVE A POLICE PRESENCE, NOT ONLY ON AURORA OR UP HERE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A POLICE STATION HERE, BUT SOMETHING ON THE OTHER SIDE, BECAUSE THE CALL TIMES ARE NOT QUICK ENOUGH FOR THEM TO GET OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE. >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> JIM? >> SO OBVIOUSLY, AURORA IS A MAJOR ISSUE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS AS WELL. LAKE CITY WAY. [ INAUDIBLE ] WHERE I LIVE, IF YOU DRIVE DOWN NORTHGATE WAY, YOU SEE BOARDED-UP BUSINESSES AND OTHERS BECAUSE OF THE CRIME, BECAUSE BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN BROKEN INTO. BUT AGAIN, IT JUST COMES BACK TO HAVING A MODEL OF COMMUNITY POLICING WHERE THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE ENGAGING AT THE STREET LEVEL. IT IS NOT WHAT I REFERRED TO BEFORE AS DRIVE-BY POLICING AND THEY ARE IN THEIR CAR AND WAVING AS YOU GO BY. WE NEED PEOPLE OUT ON THE STREETS, ENGAGING WITH PEOPLE, FINDING OUT WHAT IS TRULY GOING ON AND WHAT CAN BE DONE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES AS WELL, SO -- >> THANK YOU, JIM. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> NILU? >> THANK YOU, SO I LIVE, LIKE I SAID, IN LAKE CITY. 33rd AVENUE IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE HAVE QUITE A LOT OF SEX TRAFFICKING AND GUN VIOLENCE AND DRUGS AS WELL, SO I HOPE PEOPLE KEEP IN MIND THAT WHITE IS ONE OF THE MOST ETHNICALLY DIVERSE AREAS AND NEIGHBORHOODS OF D5 NOT MENTIONED AS OFTEN AS WE THINK? AND ALSO, LITTLE BROOKE IS AN AREA THAT HAS A LOT OF ISSUES. [ INAUDIBLE ] IS AN AREA THAT HAS ISSUES, A LOT OF D5 HAS ISSUES. I THINK IT IS ALSO A CONTEST, HOMELESS PEOPLE LIVING ON OUR STREETS AND NOT HAVING ENOUGH SHELTERS [ INAUDIBLE ]. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US HAVE AN ACTUAL REAL-TIME COUNT OF HOW MANY SHELTER BEDS ARE AVAILABLE IN THE CITY , SO WE DON'T HAVE A DEBATE ABOUT WHO IS REJECTING HOUSING, INSTEAD TALK ABOUT THE SHORTAGE OF HOUSING AND SHELTERS AND BEDS THAT WE HAVE. I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO HAVE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT IS ALSO A CRIME, BUT GENERALLY, I THINK WE NEED TO INVEST IN THINGS LIKE THE CARE STEAM, COMMUNITY PASSAGEWAYS, ANTIVIOLENCE PROGRAMS, MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS FOR OUR STUDENTS. WE HAVE HAD SHOOTINGS AT INGRAM. I HAD A SPREE SHOOTING IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE IN SAND POINT, WE CAN DO BETTER. >> THANK YOU. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> JULIE? >> YET, SO I AM THINKING ABOUT LAKE CITY AND AURORA, BUT BETWEEN BITTER LAKE , AN URBAN TRIAL, AS WELL AS NORTH AKERS PARK, SO WE KNOW THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT A LUXURY, IT IS A BASIC RIGHT. AND FOR TOO LONG, I THINK DISTRICT 5 HAS BEEN WAITING FOR FASTER 911 RESPONSE TIMES, WAITING FOR THE PROMISE, AND WAITING FOR THE REAL HELP IN PLACES LIKE LAKE CITY WAY AND AURORA AND IN BETWEEN. AND I THINK WE NEED A VISIBLE, CONSISTENT PRESENCE, OFFICERS WERE TRAINED, TRUSTED, AND SUPPORTED ALSO PUBLIC SAFETY MEANS CAROTENES THAT ARE RESPONDING TO MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, YOUTH PROGRAMS TO PREVENT VIOLENCE BEFORE IT STARTS, AND REAL INVESTMENT IN HUMAN SERVICES AND HOUSING, AND I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, COUNCILMAN KETTLE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY CHAIR, FOR STRENGTHENING THE CITY'S CHRONIC NUISANCE LAW, AND I THINK THIS IS PART OF THE BROADER EFFORT TO ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS, AND I WILL WORK WITH THE COUNCIL TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON PUBLIC SAFETY. >> THANK YOU, JULIE. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> ROB? >> I THINK THERE ARE AREAS WHERE WE NEED TO BE REALLY FOCUSED ON WHERE WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE OUR EFFORTS BUT OBVIOUSLY RUN SCHOOLS, OBVIOUSLY IN SOME OF THESE HOTSPOTS, BUT JUST SHARING SOME ANTIDOTES. WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING NEAR A BUS STOP AND YOU TRY TO CALL AND YOU TRY TO CALL AGAIN AND [ INAUDIBLE ] TO FIX IT, THAT DISCUSSION OF RESPONSE TIMES, THE DISCUSSION AROUND HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE THESE AREAS WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING THERE EVERY DAY? KIDS ARE BOARDING THOSE BUSES. LAKE CITY, WE TALK ABOUT AREAS LIKE THAT, THERE ARE A LOT OF KIDS THAT WALKED TO JANE ADAMS SCHOOL. [ INAUDIBLE ] TALKED ABOUT NORTHGATE WAY EARLIER. JUST THINKING ABOUT AN EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAD THAT IS ONE OF THOSE LIKE HOW DO WE STOP THIS PASTOR? THERE IS SOMEBODY THROWING -- HE SAW THEM OUT OF THE CORNER OF YOUR EYE, BUT DRIVING ON NORTHGATE WAY, [ INAUDIBLE ] I-5, IT IS KIND OF HARD TO SEE IT, BUT A GIANT CHUNK OF CONCRETE GOT THROWN AT OUR CAR, THERE IS STILL A GIANT TENT. THAT IS SCARY, THAT IS SCARY WHEN THERE ARE KIDS IN THE CARPET AND I THINK THERE IS AN ENFORCEMENT ASPECT OF THIS, THERE IS ALSO HOW DO WE GET TREATMENT TO PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED IT? >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU, ROB. OKAY. MOVING ON TO BUDGETS. AND WE WILL START WITH DEBORA . >> [ LAUGHTER ] >> THIS YEAR, SEATTLE HAS A $250 MILLION BUDGET DEFICIT. WHERE WOULD YOU PRIORITIZE BUDGET CUTS , WHAT ARE WAYS OF RAISING REVENUE THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT? >> LET ME LAY THE GROUNDWORK HERE. I HAVE GONE THROUGH IT BUDGETS AND IF I GET THIS JOB BACK AGAIN, WE WILL HAVE TWO BUDGET CYCLES, $240 MILLION DEFICIT. AND WE ALSO ARE ENTERTAINING AND I HOPE IT HAPPENS, A [ INAUDIBLE ] TAX, THAT WE HAVE A SUNSET CLAUSE IN IT FOR FOUR YEARS, AND IT WILL GO TO THE VOTERS, AND THOSE MONIES WILL BE USED FOR ADDICTION AND SERVICES FOR THAT. IT'S HARD TO SAY TO A PUBLIC AND I'M NOT GOING TO LIE OR [ INAUDIBLE ] OR DO PERFORMATIVE ART HERE AND SAY I AM GOING TO CUT THIS AND I DESPAIR YOU CAN'T. YOU CAN'T UNTIL THE MAYOR SENSED ON THE BUDGET, THEN YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE. WE START WITH WHAT OUR DISTRICT NEEDS, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE ALWAYS DONE. WHAT DOES MY DISTRICT NEED? [ INAUDIBLE ] IS A TRANSIT, IS IT LIGHT RAIL, IS AT A CROSSWALK, IS IT A COMMUNITY CENTER? THOSE ARE THE THINGS YOU START WITH, AND THEN YOU MAKE SURE, WHICH I HAVE ALWAYS DONE, THIS IS A LITTLE BRAGGING HERE, BUT I HAVE A 98% BUDGET SUCCESS RATE. AND WHY? BECAUSE I WORKED WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IN AUGUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING D5 RELATED WAS IN THE MAYOR'S BUDGET, SO I DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT ABOUT IT WHEN IT GOT DOWN TO THE SECOND FLOOR. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . JIM? >> SO, THROUGHOUT MY CAREER, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE REALLY WORKED ON EXTENSIVELY, I PUT TOGETHER ACTUALLY 25 AT LEAST ANNUAL BUDGET , MULTIBILLION-DOLLAR BUDGETS IN THE COURSE OF MY TIME, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS YOU LEARN ABOUT HOW TO APPROACH BUDGETS. I THINK WHEN SOMEONE WHO IS NOT FAMILIAR IN BUDGETS, THEY LOOK AT THE THINGS THEY CAN GET THEIR MIND AROUND, THEY LOOK FOR THOSE LITTLE LINE ITEMS IN THE 2000, $3000 BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK FUNDAMENTALLY ABOUT HOW THE BUDGETED STRUCTURE. [ INAUDIBLE ] I AM CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF PROGRESSIVE REVENUES, SUCH AS OCCUPATIONAL TAX . I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EXACT PROPOSAL THERE, AND I KNOW THAT [ INAUDIBLE ] IT MAY BE AMENDED AND IT MAY NOT BE QUITE THE SAME, BUT I CERTAINLY THINK PROGRESSIVE REVENUES LIKE THAT WILL BE A VERY GOOD THING FOR THE CITY. >> THANK YOU, JIM. NILU? >> THANK YOU. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A REALLY HARD TIME THAT OUR CITY IS FACING AND IT IS A REALLY HARD TIME IN OUR NATION. REALISTICALLY, THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE NEED TO PROTECT IS ANYTHING THAT IS RELATED TO DEMOCRACY. OUR LIBRARIES, OR CIVIC EDUCATION, HOW DO WE KEEP VOTER TURNOUT HIGH, AND WE KEEP OUR KIDS AND OUR ADULTS, EVERYBODY, EDUCATED ON HOW IMPORTANT THE THREAT IS REAL QUESTION I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS BIG, TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE BILL THAT PASSED, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO KEEP OUR PEOPLE FED IN HEALTHCARE AND MEDICARE AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING THE NEXT YOUR QUESTION WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THIS FALL. AND YES, SUPPORTING PROGRESSIVE TAXES. [ INAUDIBLE ] HELPING OR SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE SUFFERING RIGHT NOW. BUT WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? ANTI-SPECULATION TAXES. LIKE THERE ARE SO MANY PLACES HOLDING ONTO LAND IN HOPES THAT THE RIGHT -- LIGHT RAIL WILL COME IN 20 YEARS AND I NEED THAT HOUSING NOW. SO, THINK ABOUT OTHER KINDS OF REVENUE THAT WE CAN BRING IN, BECAUSE ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE UNDER FEDERAL ATTACK, AND WE ALL KNOW WE ARE, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO PROTECT OUR PEOPLE. >> THANK YOU, NILU. JULIE? >> YES, WE ARE FACING BUDGET CRISES IN EDUCATION AS WELL, SO THIS IS VERY REAL. AND I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE DONE IN THE D5 IS COMMUNITY BANK. WHEN BANK OF AMERICA AND OTHER LARGE BANKS CANNOT GIVE EQUITABLE LOAN RATES TO SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, WE HAD 54 MEMBERS COME TOGETHER TO FIND A SOLUTION WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND TO OFFER EQUITABLE LOAN RATES. IT DIDN'T COST ANY MONEY, AND IN FACT, IT GENERATED MONEY IN D5 WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO ALLOCATE SOME MONEY FOR GOOD WORK FOR THE COMMUNITY. I ALWAYS TELL OUR STUDENTS TO THINK ABOUT FINANCIAL LITERACY AND TO LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS. YOU KNOW, AS AN IMMIGRANT, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE DONE. WE DON'T OVERSPEND. WE HAVE SAVED SOME FOR RAINY DAYS. SO, YES, IT'S A CHALLENGING TIME FOR ALL OF US, BUT BEFORE WE INCREASE TAXES OR PUT IN OTHER THINGS THAT WILL BE PASSED ON TO THE CITIZEN, I WANT US TO THINK ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY AND VISIBILITY IN THE BUDGET. >> THANK YOU. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> ROB? >> WHEN YOU -- WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REVENUE OF THE CITY AND HOW MANY THINGS ARE PERCENTAGES ON SALES AND BUSINESS PROFITABILITY THAT YEAR, THE PAYROLL IN A PARTICULAR COMPANY, THAT IS GOING TO BE A ROLLER COASTER UP AND DOWN AND WE CAN'T SPEND TO THE TOP OF THAT [ INAUDIBLE ], WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR THE GOOD YEARS AND WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR THE SLOWER YEARS. THAT MEANS RESERVE FUNDS. THAT MEANS PLANNING FOR THE BIGGER -- THE YEARS WHERE THE BUDGETS GOT A LITTLE MORE MONEY [ INAUDIBLE ] AND THE YEARS WHERE IT DOESN'T. SO, I THINK IT IS LOOKING AND NOT LONG-TERM VIEW, IT IS NOT SOLVING A ONE-YEAR PROBLEM, A TWO YEAR PROBLEM, [ INAUDIBLE ]. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SERVICES IN THIS CITY THAT ARE TOO IMPORTANT TO EVER CUT, AND I THINK WE ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR LEADERS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE THERE ARE THINGS THAT PEOPLE DEPEND ON ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SOMETHING YOU CAN'T SLOW DOWN ON, YOU CAN'T SLOW DOWN ON THOSE INVESTMENTS. YOU CAN SLOW DOWN ON PROVIDING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS [ INAUDIBLE ] . SO, PICK YOUR PRIORITIES, HAVE A RESERVE FUND FOR THOSE RAINY DAYS, AND REALLY BE OPEN TO NEW OPTIONS WHEN NEEDED. >> THANK YOU, ROB. KATY? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK TO DEBORA 'S POINT, YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW THE DETAILS UNTIL YOU GET THERE, BUT THE APPROACH I WOULD TAKE HIS TRAM ANYWHERE YOU CAN, WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE DON'T NEED RIGHT NOW, WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE CAN HOLD OFF ON BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THE TOP PRIORITY? FIGURING OUT WHERE WE CAN FIND EFFICIENCIES FOR THERE IS A LOT OF COLLABORATION WE CAN DO AMONGST DEPARTMENTS AND REALLY FIND OUT [ INAUDIBLE ] . AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH TO DIG US OUT OF A HOLE, SO THAT'S WHEN YOUR VALUES REALLY COME IN, RIGHT? WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT TO PRIORITIZE, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE THOSE HARD DECISIONS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE GETTING WHAT THEY NEED AT THE END OF THE DAY? BUT WE ARE ALSO THINKING ABOUT HOW THE CITY CAN SURVIVE, SIR THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS HERE IN PARTICULAR. SO, IN PRINCIPLE, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT LOOKING AT PROGRESSIVE FORMS OF GENERATING REVENUE, I THINK IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE DETAILS. IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT NEW TAXES, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER MATTERS. IF IT IS GOING TO BE A GIANT SHOP TO A BUSINESS, THEN THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM. REALLY GETTING INTO THE NITTY-GRITTY OF WHAT WE ARE REALLY DOING WITH THESE, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO GENERATE, WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL HARMS WE MIGHT BE CAUSING, AND REALLY THINKING THROUGH AGAIN, JUST HOW IT STACKS UP AGAINST OUR PRIORITIES. >> THANK YOU, KATY. ALL RIGHT, WELL, THAT COMPLETES THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD PREPARED, SO, WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUMP INTO SOME OF THE AUDIENCE QUESTIONS. SO, IT'S GOING TO BE RANDOM. WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO BE THERE. SO, HANG WITH US. AND I THINK THAT WE WILL BE RANDOM -- NO, WE WANT, WE WILL STAY ON TRACK. WE WILL START WITH JIM BOUREY, THEN WE WOULD JUST WORK DOWN, THAT WILL BE FINE. JIM, YOU GET TO START US OFF. CATHY MORE HAS A REPUTATION OF BEING RECEPTIVE TO HER CONSTITUENTS WHEREAS PREVIOUS DISTRICT 5 MEMBERS HAVE BEEN [ INAUDIBLE ] AT THE COST OF THE DISTRICT AS A WHOLE. HOW ACCESSIBLE WILL YOU BE TO REGULAR FOLK? >> IS STILL MY CLOSING REMARK. IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT BEING RESPONSIVE, LISTENING CAREFULLY, MAKING SURE THAT EVERY VOICE IS HEARD IN THE DISTRICT, NOT ANY SPECIAL VOICE, BUT [ INAUDIBLE ] . HARD WORK AND MEETING AND BEING AVAILABLE AND BEING RESPONSIVE. WHEN SOME EMAIL IS SENT, YOU DON'T JUST PUT IT ON A CERTAIN FILE, YOU RESPOND TO IT IN EVERY INSTANCE. CAN YOU SAY THAT I HAVEN'T ALWAYS SEEN THAT HAPPEN IN DISTRICT 5, AND I WILL MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS IN DISTRICT 5 IF I'M A COUNCILMEMBER. >> THANK YOU, JIM. NILU? >> THANK YOU, DISTRICT SERVICES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME, I LOVE PEOPLE, THAT'S WHY I AM HERE MEETING PEOPLE. IF YOU KNOW ME, YOU KNOW THAT I AM AN EXTREMELY SOCIAL PERSON, SO TAKING THOSE CAUSE AND MEETING WITH THE PUBLIC IS SOMETHING I WOULD VALUE AND CHERISH. I ALSO REALLY BELIEVE IN TOWNHOUSE AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS. I REMEMBER GOING WITH THE MAYOR OF THE FORMER CITY TO GO LEARN ABOUT LIVING ROOM CONVERSATIONS. [ INAUDIBLE ] HOW DO WE TALK TO EACH OTHER WHEN WE DISAGREE? I WOULD LOVE TO BE A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT BRINGS THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND LISTENS TOGETHER, NOT JUST ME LISTENING TO YOU, BUT ALL OF US TOGETHER, AND HELP FACILITATE THAT, SO WE CAN ACTUALLY LIVE AND LEARN AND BE HAPPIER AS A SOCIETY, BECAUSE I THINK RIGHT NOW, WE ARE REALLY STRUGGLING, BUT EVERYBODY REALLY WANTS IS TO BE HEARD, AND I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE ROLE FOR THE NEXT COUNCILMEMBER, AND SOMETHING THAT I WOULD HOPE TO CONTINUE. >> THANK YOU, NILU. JULIE? >> SO, THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW ME, I AM HIGH-ENERGY, I LOOKED TO BE IN PLACES, TO REPRESENT OUR COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS TO LEARN ABOUT ONE ANOTHER, AND I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT, AND ONE OF MY PRIORITIES THAT I ACTUALLY WROTE DOWN WAS CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, POSTING LISTENING SESSIONS ACROSS D5, AND [ INAUDIBLE ] HOUSES, THAT WAS ONE OF MY IDEAS. CIVICS FOR ALL, FORUMS TO REBUILD TRUST. I THINK THERE IS DIVIDE, AND WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER AS [ INAUDIBLE ], AND USE CIVIC FELLOWSHIP TO BUILD ON LOCAL LEADERS, SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO NURTURE THE NEXT GENERATION. I THINK THAT IS ALSO IMPORTANT. AND THOSE OF YOU 30 YEARS IN EDUCATION KNOW THAT I HAVE NEVER NOT RESPONDED TO A SINGLE EMAIL OR NOT RETURNED A PHONE CALL. I DON'T HAVE ALL THE EASY ANSWERS, BUT SOMETIMES IT IS JUST GETTING THEM THE RESOURCES BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO. >> THANK YOU, JULIE. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> ROB? >> OPEN DOORS, OFFICE HOURS, ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT BUT OPEN BOOKING TOOLS, HAVE PEOPLE COME INTO THE OFFICE. BUT YOU KNOW THAT IS JUST A SMALL SLICE OF THE POPULATION THAT IS NEVER GOING TO GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO GET TO YOU, SO YOU'VE GOT TO GO OUT THERE AND TALK TO THEM. YOU'VE GOT TO BE IN UNEXPECTED PLACES, AND YOU HAVE GOT TO MAKE IT MORE OF A MEANINGFUL CONVERSATION THEN BE WEARING A BUTTON AND SHAKING SOMEONE'S HAND AND MOVING ON. GOT TO HAVE THE TIME FOR REAL CONVERSATION. I'M A BIG BELIEVER AND I LOVE THE DEMOCRACY VOUCHER PROGRAM IN SEATTLE. I THINK IT IS FANTASTIC, I THINK IT IS INNOVATIVE, AND I THINK IT IS EXACTLY THE WAY THAT YOU GET PEOPLE'S VOICES HEARD. I WAS READING UP ON THE PAGE THE OTHER DAY, BETTER UNDERSTAND THE PROGRAM. YES, YOU HAVE TO GET SOME DONATIONS TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR DEMOCRACY VOUCHER IS, BUT YOU CAN JUST BARELY HAD THAT THRESHOLD AND THEN DO VOUCHERS. I THINK THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO BETTER [ INAUDIBLE ] AND NOT TO ANY SPECIAL INTEREST. >> THANK YOU, ROB. KATY? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO, I LOVE THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT TALKING TO THE FOLKS OF D5, THIS IS ACTUALLY A BIG PART OF WHAT I DO FOR MY JOB, IS ABOUT ENGAGEMENT. PARTICULARLY INCLUSIVE ENGAGEMENT. SO YES, COME TALK TO ME, I WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT WHATEVER PROBLEMS YOU HAVE AND HELP CONNECT YOU TO RESOURCES TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS. I LOVE TALKING WITH PEOPLE, I LOVE CONNECTING WITH PEOPLE, I LOVE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY LOVE AND WHAT THEY NEED. I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE DOING [ INAUDIBLE ] ENGAGEMENT [ INAUDIBLE ] BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, IT'S NOT JUST THE PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP, IT IS THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE TO REACH OUT TO BID THAT MEANS IN PERSON TRANSLATION, THAT MEANS MORE TIME AND ENERGY, THAT MEANS MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE, AND THAT MEANS RESPECTING PEOPLE FOR THEIR PERSPECTIVES AND HAVING COMPASSION EVEN WHEN YOU DISAGREE. AND THAT I THINK CAN BE REALLY HARD WHEN WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS SOLUTIONS AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY DON'T MATTER AND IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE INTEGRITY AND STILL RESPECT THEIR VOICE. >> THANK YOU, KATY. DEBORA ? >> I'M GUESSING THAT WAS DIRECTED AT ME, IT YEARS IN CITY COUNCIL, SO LET ME JUST BE HONEST WITH YOU ABOUT THIS. WHEN WE WENT TO A DISTRICT SYSTEM, D5 WAS ONLY DISTRICT THAT HAD A DISTRICT DIRECTOR AND HAD A DISTRICT OFFICE, RIGHT HERE ON THIS CAMPUS, FOR FOUR YEARS, 1140, I THINK WAS OUR OFFICE [ INAUDIBLE ] FOR $200 A MONTH AND WE MET THERE EVERY FRIDAY FROM 10 AFTER 3:00. THE OTHER THING THAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT WE WOULD GET -- DEPENDING ON HOW HOT THE ISSUE WAS, ANYWHERE BETWEEN 100 AND 200 EMAILS, AND SOMETIMES WELL OVER 100 PHONE CALLS. CITY HALL DOESN'T HAVE PHONES ANYMORE BUT AFTER 2020 AND COVID, THEY MOVED TO A COMPUTER SYSTEM, SO WE WOULD LISTEN TO MESSAGES BUT I HAD THE BEST CHIEF OF STAFF WHO WAS CHIEF OF STAFF FOR LARRY PHILLIPS AT KING COUNTY COUNCIL, WE HAD A SYSTEM TO TRY TO GET OUT, BUT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS BESIDES BEING ACCESSIBLE. THERE WAS A NEWSLETTER, WAS HAVING COMMUNITY EVENTS. [ INAUDIBLE ] NOT TAXPAYER, WE RAISED THAT MONEY TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THAT SPACE TO AGAIN TALK TO AS MUCH PEOPLE AS WE COULD. YES, EVERY [ INAUDIBLE ] WOULD LOVE TO MEET WITH EVERYBODY ALL THE TIME, BUT WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, IT ISN'T JUST D5, IS THE REST OF SEATTLE AS WELL. >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . ALRIGHTY. OKAY. NEXT, WE WILL START WITH NILU. AND ENVIRONMENTAL QUESTION. UNDER THE CURRENT ONE SEATTLE PLAN, SEATTLE MAY FAIL TO MEET ITS GOAL OF 30% TREE CANOPY BY 2037. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? >> WELL, I THINK TREES ARE IMPORTANT. I RAN BECAUSE OF THE CLIMATE URGENCY THE FIRST TIME AROUND THAT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PLANTING TREES. I DON'T THINK TREES AND HOUSES OUR ENEMIES. GENERALLY THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TREES WANT THEM BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN A HOUSE. I THINK IF WE CAN FIND WAYS TO BUILD IN RIGHTS-OF-WAY AND HAVE MORE FLEXIBLE FLOOR PLANS TO BUILD HOUSES, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE TREES AND GREENERY. I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE KEEPING IN MIND BIODIVERSITY BUT I THINK ALL OF US HAVE SEEN THAT OUR ENVIRONMENT IS CHANGING HERE IN THE LAST 20 YEARS I HAVE LIVED HERE, I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE BUT AND THEN I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW WE HIT OUR GOALS OVERALL ON CLIMATE. CAN WE DO [ INAUDIBLE ] FINANCING TO GET HEAT PUMPS FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS CITY QUESTION CAN WE USE HEAT PUMPS LIKE THEY ARE IN TACOMA TO HELP WITH RENT STABILIZATION? CAN WE HAVE BETTER -- ALL THE PUBLIC TRANSIT [ INAUDIBLE ] , BUT ALSO KEEP EXPANDING AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR LIGHT RAIL IS SUPPORTED AND THAT WE ARE GETTING OUT WORK AT CARDS TO PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED THEM. THERE IS SO MUCH WE CAN DO TO MAKE THIS CITY A GREENER PLACE. >> THANK YOU, NILU. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> JULIE? >> SO, IN AREAS LIKE NORTHGATE AND LAKE CITY WHERE WE ARE SEEING MORE PEOPLE, WE HAVE TO ALSO THINK ABOUT INVESTMENT IN THE GREEN SPACE AND CLEAN AIR THAT WE NEED TO THRIVE, SO ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE IS NOT A FAR-OFF IDEA, I THINK IT IS REALLY ABOUT WHETHER OUR KIDS CAN PLAY IN A SHADED PARK, WHETHER SENIORS CAN WALK SAFELY WITHOUT OVERHEATING, AND WHETHER FAMILIES LIVING NEAR MAJOR ROADS ARE PROTECTED FROM POLLUTANTS. AS WE PREPARE FOR GROWTH, WE MUST INVEST IN TREES, ELECTRIC TRANSIT, GREEN BUILDING STANDARDS, AND MAINTAINING OUR PARKS, NOT JUST TO CHECK OFF THE BOX, BUT REALLY TO CREATE A HEALTHIER, MORE RESILIENT COMMUNITY. LET'S CONNECT OUR CLIMATE INVESTMENTS TO WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY LIVE. ESPECIALLY IN D5 WHERE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS LONG LAGGED BEHIND. SO, I THINK OUR NEIGHBORS DESERVE CLEAN AIR, QUIET STREETS, AND THE SHADES OF A TREE ON A HOT DAY, AND THAT IS THE KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL FUTURE I WILL FIGHT FOR. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU, JULIE. ROB? >> THIS IS A VERY TRUE STORY, I WAS ON 103rd AND FIFTH TODAY SWELTERING IN THE HEAT AND WONDERING WHERE THE TREE COVER WAS THAT WAS GOING TO SAVE ME. BUT THE NORTHGATE DEVELOPMENT ISN'T GOING FAST ENOUGH AND I DON'T HAVE TO RECOVER ANYWHERE NEAR ME BECAUSE [ INAUDIBLE ]. HOPEFULLY THAT SPEEDS UP. THERE IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT NEED TO PRESERVE THE TREES WE CAN. WE HAD A NEIGHBOR GOING DOOR TO DOOR TO SAVE A LINE OF FOUR TREES, ESTABLISH TREES, BEAUTIFUL TREES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY HAD TO HEROICALLY GO AROUND AND SIGN PETITIONS AND TALK TO THE CITY AND PRESERVE THOSE TREES. IT SHOULDN'T BE AN UPHILL BATTLE TO SAVE THE TREES. THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN DO, THE DENSE HOUSING, BUT LET'S SAVE THE TREES [ INAUDIBLE ]. THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHER AREA TO DEVELOP, AND IF WE BUILD DENSER HERE, WE CAN SAVE THE TREES HERE. THE OTHER THING I WILL SAY IS THE COMP PLAN AND READING THE PDF WHEN THEY OPENED IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE ARE SO MANY SMART, PRAGMATIC, CREATIVE PEOPLE IN THIS CITY PROPOSING REALLY GREAT OPTIONS FOR TREE COVER ALONG ROADWAYS THAT WILL ADD TO THE BEAUTY OF THE CITY, WILL ADD TO THE WORKABILITY OF THOSE AREAS, SO MANY GOOD IDEAS OUT THERE, LET'S FOLLOW THEM. >> THANK YOU, ROB. KATY? >> SO, I AM A TREE LOVER, MY BACKGROUND IS IN LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE AND CONSERVATION. SO, I THINK WE NEED MORE TREES. WE NEED MORE OF THEM, EVERYWHERE. I THINK WHEN WE PICK THEM AGAINST HOUSING, WE MAKE IT INTO A ZERO-SUM GAME. YES, WE DO HAVE LIMITED SPACE AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIT ALL OF THESE THINGS AND, SO YES, IF YOU WANT MORE HOUSING AND MORE TREES, YOU HAVE TO GO TALLER, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO AGREE TO DO. I ALSO THINK THERE IS A LOT OF NUANCES IN OUR CODE THAT WE CAN USE TO ENCOURAGE THE OUTCOMES WE WANT, SO IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE NUMBER OF TREES, BUT IT IS ABOUT THE SIZE AND THE TYPES OF TREES FOR [ INAUDIBLE ] AND REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THOSE SMALL THINGS WE CAN MAKE TO ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE THAT IN PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT? I ALSO THINK TREES IS AN EQUITY ISSUE. I THINK THAT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS ONE OF THE BEST PLACES TO ADD TREES. [ INAUDIBLE ] NOT ON HOMEOWNERS OR ON RENTERS [ INAUDIBLE ]. SO, THIS IS WHY I THINK A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW WE CAN WORK WITH COMMUNITY AND WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS, PARTICULARLY WITH SDOT TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES ON HOW WE CAN GET MORE TREES, PARTICULARLY IN OUR RIGHTS-OF-WAY, AND AGAIN, IT IS GOING TO MAKE US MAKE DIFFICULT TRADE-OFFS, BUT IT'S THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO. >> THANK YOU, KATY. DEBORA JUAREZ ? >> I'M GOING TO GET A LITTLE WONKY HERE BUT I UNDERSTAND UNDER THE COMP PLAN ON THE TREEPLANTING PIECE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, ESTABLISHING A POINT BASED SYSTEM [ INAUDIBLE ], LOOKING AT THAT 10 MINUTE WALK SHED, BUT ALSO UNDER MAYOR HARRELL'S ONE SEATTLE, AS YOU KNOW, HE IS LOOKING AT 300,000 UNITS COMING IN, AND MY UNDERSTANDING FROM LOOKING AT IT, [ INAUDIBLE ], IS THAT THERE IS PROTECTIONS BOTH IN MAYOR HARRELL'S ONE SEATTLE COMP PLAN , AND NOW THE PROPOSED COMP PLAN ABOUT TREE AND TREE PROTECTION. AND ONE THING THAT WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH NORTH OF THE SHIP CANAL, AND IT GOES BACK TO [ INAUDIBLE ] JULIE WAS SAYING THAT THERE WAS [ INAUDIBLE ] ENVIRONMENT OF RACISM THAT TOOK OUT A LOT OF TREES SOUTH OF THE SHIP CANAL, SO IF YOUR DISTRICT 5, IF YOU ARE ON CITY COUNCIL, YOU DON'T JUST LOOK AT THE FIVE, LOOK AT THE HOST, AND HAVING GREEN SPACE AND CANOPIES FOR EVERYBODY, AND THAT IS A HARD TASK TO DO, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH DEVELOPERS AND PRIVATE PROPERTY AND ZONING. SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO DOING WORK ALSO WITH ANOTHER COUNCILMEMBER DAN IS HERE, SO I THINK YOU SHOULD ASK HIM. >> [ LAUGHTER ] >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . JIM? >> WELL, FIRST OFF, DEBORA , I WAS NOT REFERRING AT ALL TO YOUR TIME IN OFFICE. I WAS REFERRING TO MORE RECENT EXPERIENCES, SO I APOLOGIZE IF YOU INTERPRETED IT THAT WAY. IT WAS NOT FOR THAT REASON AT ALL. OBVIOUSLY, PLANTING TREES IS CRITICAL. I HAVE WORKED IN A NUMBER OF CITIES WHERE WE HAVE HAD VERY, VERY AGGRESSIVE PLANNING PROGRAMS, AND THEY HAVE BEEN TREATED USA CITIES. SO, PLANTING IS IMPORTANT. PRESERVING IS ALSO EQUALLY IMPORTANT. I REALLY BELIEVE WE NEED SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY IN HOW OUR TREE ORDINANCE IS DONE, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE DON'T HAVE THE BEST RESULT JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE APPROACH IT, SO I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS HOW WE MIX OUR LAND USES, SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO GET IN A CAR WHERE THEY GO EVERYWHERE. THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE MOVED TO THE AREA WE DIDN'T NORTHGATE IS SO WE CAN WALK -- THE GROCERY STORES ACROSS THE STREET, WE CAN UP TO 25 RESTAURANTS. WE CAN WALK TO OTHER SERVICES AS WELL, WE CAN WALK TO TRANSIT. HAVING COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU CAN WALK, WE HAVE THOSE SERVICES IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. >> THANK YOU, JIM. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND -- SO THIS IS ABOUT -- OKAY, AND WE ARE GOING TO START WITH JULIE, I BELIEVE. AND DO YOU SUPPORT ART INFUSED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROGRAMS FOR LOW LEVEL [ INAUDIBLE ] ? WHAT SPECIFICS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE? >> CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? >> DO YOU SUPPORT ART INFUSED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROGRAMS AS DIVERSION FOR LOW-LEVEL OFFENSES? >> YES. SO, MY UNDERGRAD AT UCLA WAS ART AND PSYCHOLOGY, AND I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BECOME AN ART THERAPIST. THEN I LEARNED AT THAT TIME THAT ART THERAPY WAS NOT OFFERED WITH HEALTH INSURANCE, AND WITH IMMIGRANTS AND REFUGEES. SO, I PIVOTED AND BECAME A TEACHER AND TAUGHT ART. SO, I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT HOW TO INFUSE ART, AND WE NEED MORE, ESPECIALLY AT A TIME LIKE THIS, WHEN I AM WORKING WITH STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, STUDENTS WHO ARE MULTILINGUAL, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DOING IT. AND I ALSO KNOW THAT THEY ARE CHALLENGED BY BUDGET CUTS. SO, THIS IS THE TIME, I THINK, IMMUNITY CAN STEP UP, BUT I AM A PRO ART -- ART APPRECIATOR, ART LOVER, AND CREATOR OF ART. SO, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT IT. >> [ APPLAUSE ] X THANK YOU. ROB? >> I HAVE BEEN EDUCATING MYSELF RECENTLY A LOT MORE ABOUT THINGS LIKE TREATMENT COURTS AND OTHER DIVERSION METHODS AND ALTERNATE FORMS OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT ARE ULTIMATELY MORE EFFECTIVE FOR THE COMMUNITIES AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO GO THROUGH THOSE PROGRAMS. IT'S NOT ABOUT LOCKING PEOPLE UP, IT'S NOT ABOUT NOT GIVING THEM A SECOND CHANCE, IT IS ABOUT FINDING WAYS TO HELP THEM AND TREAT THEM. I THINK AN ART INFUSED PROJECT SOUNDS AMAZING. I PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED WHEN IN THE NAVY, YOU HAVE FOLKS IN THE NAVY, YOU TALK TO THEM ABOUT THEIR BACKGROUND, AND ESPECIALLY ON THE USS [ INAUDIBLE ], THE CARRIER I WAS ON AT THE TIME, YOU HAVE FOLKS THAT WERE AVOIDING JAIL TIME BY JOINING THE MILITARY. THAT MIGHT SOUND SURPRISING TO SOME, BUT IT IS AN ALTERNATE OPTION THAT A JUDGE GIVES HIM AND HE GIVES THEM ANOTHER CHANCE, GIVES HIM SOMETHING WHERE THEY CAN GO OUT, MAKE AN INCOME, A PART OF SOCIETY, CONTRIBUTE, AND REALLY TURNED HER LIFE AROUND. THAT MOVED ME AND THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE OPEN TO. WHEN THERE ARE BETTER IDEAS, LET'S PURSUE THEM AND LET'S MAKE THIS WORLD, YOU KNOW, BETTER FOR EVERYONE, EVEN THOSE WHO MADE SOME MISTAKES. >> THANK YOU, ROB. KATY? X YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYBODY WOULD SAY NO TO THAT. TO YOUR POINT, SECOND CHANCES ARE SUPER IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY THOSE LOW-LEVEL OFFENSES. PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH A LOT, THERE IS A LOT OF STRESS OUT THERE, IT IS HARD RIGHT NOW. AND A LOT OF THAT CAN COME OUT IN WAYS THAT ARE ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIOR. WE KNOW THAT WHEN PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THEIR HANDS, IT OPENS THEM UP. AND THAT OPENS THEM UP TO HEALING. I DO THIS ALL THE TIME WITH [ INAUDIBLE ], DRAW THE PICTURE. SO, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS, OTHER METHODS THAT WE COULD DO FOR DIVERSION, SO WE CAN KEEP PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY IS, KEEP THEM WITH THEIR SUPPORT SYSTEMS, MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN LEAD HAPPY LIVES WHERE THEY ARE THRIVING. >> THANK YOU, KATY. DEBORA ? >> THAT IS A TWO PART QUESTION BECAUSE I AM GOING TO ANSWER THE EASY QUESTION FIRST, I THINK IT IS A WONDERFUL ONE FOR ME BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER IS A TEACHER AND AN ART THERAPIST. I WAS WONDERING IF SHE'S AN AUDIENCE. IN MY FORMER LIFE AS A PUBLIC DEFENDER AND A JUDGE, I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST JUDGES THAT THE DRUG OR WHERE WE ACTUALLY DID FELONIES AND DID DIVERSION'S, WE ALSO DID [ INAUDIBLE ] FOR LOW OFFENDERS. THE COMMUNITY COURT IS SOMETHING IMPORTANT BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. AND SO, BEING THE FIRST [ INAUDIBLE ] JUDGE WITH JUDGE MARTINEZ WHO IS NOW A FEDERAL JUDGE, HAVING DRUG COURT, HAVING READ AS A LOW LEVEL FELONY, NOT A CRIME OF VIOLENCE, PUTTING PEOPLE NOT ONLY TO TREATMENT, BUT GIVING THEM ALTERNATIVE MODES FOR TREATMENT AND FOR GETTING HEALTHY AND ADDICTION, AT THE TIME, PEOPLE WERE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT, THEY THOUGHT THEIR TAX DOLLARS WERE BEING WASTED ON GIVING PEOPLE OPPORTUNITY. THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF TREATMENT MODALITIES THAT WE USE THAT PEOPLE THOUGHT WEREN'T GOOD ENOUGH, THEY WANTED THEM IN JAIL. SO, I AM VERY MUCH SUPPORTIVE OF COMMUNITY AND ART. >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . JIM? >> I WOULD ALSO CERTAINLY SUPPORT THE ART DIVERSION PROGRAMS. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, ESPECIALLY FOR A NONVIOLENT OFFENDER, WHAT DOES SOMEONE LEARN IN JAIL AND WHAT DOES SOMEONE LEARN WITH DIVERSION? IT IS KIND OF A NO-BRAINER, IS ANY QUESTION SO, WE NEED TO INVEST IN THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS, WE NEED TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES, NOT JUST FOR ART, BUT THERE ARE OTHER ANIMALS THAT CAN BE INVOLVED, OR I AM A RUNNER, I THINK RUNNING IS A GREAT PROGRAM FOR DIVERSION THERE ARE A LOT OF PROGRAMS WHERE THEY HAVE DIVERSION AS WELL, SO I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT AND TREATMENT. >> THANK YOU, JIM. NILU? >> THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING BUT I THINK MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AT, SOME PEOPLE WILL THINK ART THERAPY WOULD BE WONDERFUL FOR THEM AND OTHER PEOPLE WE NEED OTHER OPTIONS. I THINK LOOKING AT THE DATA IS IMPORTANT. BUT I WILL SAY, I AM ABSOLUTELY A FAN OF ART, BECAUSE MY FRIEND WOULD BEAT ME UP -- I HAVE MANY, MANY FRIENDS WHO ARE ARTISTS IN THIS CITY, SHOUT OUT TO 1448, BUT SHE WAS ALSO AN ART THERAPIST WORKING WITH CHILDREN. IT REALLY IS -- THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT YOUR FEELINGS CREATIVELY, AND JUST DO THE HEALING THAT YOU NEED TO DO, IT'S IMPORTANT. [ INAUDIBLE ] THINK ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN BRING PEOPLE BACK INTO COMMUNITY, BACK INTO HEALING, AND YOU KNOW, BEING WITH ALL OF US, RATHER THAN ALWAYS LOOKING TO PUNISH. BECAUSE IF YOU, I DON'T KNOW, AS A PARENT, MY KIDS ARE HERE, I WOULD SAY THAT THEY DO BETTER WHEN I DO LESS PUNISHING AND LESS BRINGING IN. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LET'S KIND OF STAY LOOSELY ON THE SUBJECT OF CRIME AND PUNISHMENT. ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S CLICK RAISE THE PADDLES. FIRST QUESTION, DO YOU SUPPORT DIVERSION FOR LOW-LEVEL OFFENDERS? OKAY, EASY ONE. DO YOU SUPPORT ART INFUSED DIVERSION FOR LOW-LEVEL OFFENDERS? OKAY, YOU GUYS GOT EASY ONES. OKAY. NOW, LET ME GIVE YOU A HARD ONE. SEATTLE HAS REPEALED THE PREVIOUS BAN ON ARRESTING AND BUCKING SHOP LIFTERS AND VANDALS WHO HAVE COMMITTED UP TO $750 IN RETAIL THEFT OR PROPERTY DAMAGE. DO YOU SUPPORT PROSECUTING LOW-LEVEL CRIMINAL OFFENSES? SORRY. SEATTLE HAS REPEALED THE LAW THAT SAYS THAT THEY DON'T BOOK CRIMES UP TO $750. DO YOU SUPPORT THAT REPEAL? DO YOU SUPPORT PROSECUTING SHOPLIFTERS WERE VANDALS UNDER $750? >> I DON'T KNOW. >> [ LAUGHTER ] >> [ INAUDIBLE ] >> ALL RIGHT, CITY COUNCIL, IF YOU'RE WATCHING THIS VIDEO, THIS IS WHERE YOU START SEEING DIFFERENCES. >> [ INAUDIBLE ] >> [ LAUGHTER ] SURE, THANK YOU, JULIE. OKAY, NOW WE'RE BACK TO QUESTIONS. OKAY, JUST ONE MORE. ALONG THAT SAME LINE. AND WE WILL START WITH ROB. THERE ARE A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE SUFFERING WITH LOTS OF VIOLENCE AND THEFT. WHAT WILL YOU DO TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES AND HELP THEM THRIVE? >> THAT'S PRECISELY WHY I PUT UP THE GREEN PADDLE. A LITTLE HALFHEARTED, BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF HARD QUESTIONS HERE, BUT I DON'T THINK EVERY SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN BATTLE SHOULD NEED A SECURITY GUARD STANDING NEAR THE EXIT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S AFFORDABLE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S REASONABLE. I THINK IT IS A GOOD [ INAUDIBLE ] PROGRAM, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T WORK FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. SO, SOME OF THAT IS TECHNOLOGY. I MEAN, THERE ARE CERTAIN BUSINESSES WHERE THE THEFT IS A BIT HARDER AND EVERYTHING IS FINE THE COUNTER, BUT IF YOU'RE A GROCERY STORE OR ANYONE ELSE, I KNOW I -- AS YOU TALK ABOUT WALKING TO SOMETHING, AND YOU WANT TO SEE ALL YOUR GROCERY STORES DISAPPEAR IN SEATTLE BECAUSE NOBODY GETS PROSECUTED FOR SHOPLIFTING? THE MARGINS ARE ALREADY REALLY SLIM AND A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES, AND WE HAVE GOT TO DO MORE TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR TAKING SOMETHING AND RUNNING OUT. I THINK WE HAVE SEEN IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY THAT WENT FOR LATE OR LISTED ON THIS, AND IT JUST DOESN'T WORK, IT SHUTS DOWN BUSINESSES, IT CHANGES THE NEIGHBORHOOD. [ INAUDIBLE ] >> THANK YOU, ROB. KATY? X THANKS, SO I AM A SMALL BUSINESS AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE WORRY ABOUT ALL THE TIME. WE RUN ON VERY SMALL MARGINS, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING BAD WOULD HAPPEN, IF WE GOT BROKEN INTO, THAT WOULD BE REALLY CHALLENGING FOR US TO RECOVER FROM, SO I THINK THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE SOME GOOD PROGRAMS WHERE THEY DO PROVIDE SOME GRANT FUNDING AND SUPPORT FOR BUSINESSES WHO EXPERIENCE VANDALISM OR OTHER THINGS, AND WE CAN BEAT THOSE UP. THAT'S NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM, BUT IT IS HELPING BUSINESS OWNERS SURVIVE THOSE [ INAUDIBLE ]. I THINK PART OF IT, IT IS ABOUT HOW WE ARE GROWING OUR CITY, IS ABOUT HAVING ACTIVE STREETS WHERE THERE ARE MORE EYES ON THE STREETS. IT IS ABOUT HOW WE BUILD OUR BUILDINGS AND THE RESTRAINTS IN OUR LIGHTING AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS. I'M INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THE CAMERA PROGRAM WORKS IN AURORA. I'M THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN USE TECHNOLOGY IN OTHER WAYS. [ INAUDIBLE ] APPROACH THESE THINGS WITH COMPASSION AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN LENIENCY, BUT IT DOES MEAN WE CAN TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHY THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND SAW THEM AT THE ROOT CAUSE. AND AGAIN, I WILL SAY HOUSING IS A BIG PART OF THIS, AND INCOME INEQUALITY. SO, THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN PREVENT THESE THINGS UPSTREAM [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> THANK YOU, KATY. DEBORA ? >> COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION ONE MORE TIME? >> HOLD ON ONE SECOND. UM, >> SMALL BUSINESSES, RETAIL THEFT, RIGHT? >> THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. THERE ARE A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE SUFFERING WITH LOTS OF VIOLENCE AND THEFT. WHAT WILL YOU DO TO SUPPORT THESE BUSINESSES AND HELP THEM THRIVE? >> WHEN WE SAY VIOLENCE AND THEFT VIOLENCE ABSOLUTELY THAT IS A CRIME AGAINST A PERSON, IT IS A FELONY, ABSOLUTELY. WE GET INTO THAT AND I'M GOING TO GET A LITTLE WONKY HERE BUT IS IT THEFT OF ONE DEGREE, SECOND DEGREE, THIRD DEGREE? THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION EARLIER OF BOOKING, [ INAUDIBLE ] GEL CAPACITY ISSUES. THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE THAT POLICY, LIKE WE SIMPLY CAN'T TAKE PEOPLE IN FOR WHAT THEY CALLED LOW-LEVEL CRIMES WHEN WE HAVE MURDERERS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE SHOOTING, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO GET [ INAUDIBLE ] FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND THAT IS REQUIRED FROM US AS COUNCILMEMBERS WHEN WE ARE ELECTED UNDER THE CHARTER. SO, THE OTHER ISSUE, TOO, IS WE ARE STILL UNDER A CONSENT DECREE, [ INAUDIBLE ], PEOPLE OF COLOR AND THE REST. AND ALSO, THERE IS A TIME WHERE I WAS THE COUNCILMEMBER WITH A FEW OTHERS THAT I DO NOT SUPPORT POVERTY AS A DEFENSE FOR THEFT. MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY. PEOPLE KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG. AND SO, AGAIN, THERE IS NUANCE IN THE QUESTION, BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE TO DEFINE HOW MUCH THEFT. ARE YOU BREAKING IN AND ASSAULTING SOMEONE OR ARE YOU JUST TAKING SOMEONE'S BY QUESTION WHICH IS JUST AS IMPORTANT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ROOM IN THE JAIL FOR THAT. >> THANK YOU. JIM? >> I CERTAINLY AGREE, THERE ARE A LOT OF NUANCES. BUT CLEARLY, WE NEED TO TRANSFER HER WHAT HAPPENS. I HAVE BEEN IN THE WALGREENS IN NORTHGATE A NUMBER OF TIMES WHEN THERE IS SOMEONE CLEARLY WALKING OUT WITH ALL KINDS OF STUFF, AND THE PEOPLE AT THE STORE AND SAY, WELL, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, THE POLICE WON'T RESPOND IN A ONE IN FOUR SEPARATE THOUGH, IT IS WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TAKE, COME AND TAKE IT. [ INAUDIBLE ] WE DO NEED SOME ENFORCEMENT BUT I ALSO AGREE THAT [ INAUDIBLE ]. AS WE DESIGN OUR CITIES, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE EYES ON, THERE ARE ACTIVITY LEVELS. WHEREVER YOU LIVE IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENTS HAPPENING, ADDITIONAL EYES ON, AND THAT HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE ACTIONS OF MANY PEOPLE ON THE STREETS, SO ALL THOSE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT, AND I WOULD AGREE WITH TECHNOLOGY. WE CAN USE TECHNOLOGY [ INAUDIBLE ] AS WELL. >> THANK YOU, JIM. NILU? >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT CAPACITY BECAUSE WE HAVE BOTH TALKED ABOUT THE JAIL, BUT ALSO OUR COURTS, AND ALSO JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN DIVER PEOPLE LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. BUT IN TERMS OF SUPPORTING OUR BUSINESSES, LOOKING AT LAKE CITY THAT IS REALLY HAVING A HARD TIME AND EVEN NORTHGATE, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE [ INAUDIBLE ] CREATED IN THOSE AREAS BUT EVEN THOUGH IT IS HARDER IN THOSE AREAS, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE AN AMBASSADOR PROGRAM ACROSS THE CITY ARE SMALLER HUBS THAT NEED SUPPORT BEFORE THEY CAN BECOME HIGH THRIVING HUBS, SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, A LITTLE MORE SUPPORT FOR OUR BUSINESSES ON A LEVEL WHERE THEY CAN GET THE SAME SUPPORT WE ARE SEEING [ INAUDIBLE ], AND BRINGING IN SERVICES TO GET HOUSING TO PEOPLE AND CONNECT THEM TO SERVICES IS SOMETHING I LIKE TO SEE, TOO, I KNOW THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL IN THE U DISTRICT. SO, GENERALLY TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING CHOICES THAT ARE NOT AWESOME, I THINK ADDRESSING POVERTY AND DIVERTING ACTIONS, BUT ALSO [ INAUDIBLE ] THE BUSINESSES BY GIVING THEM THE SUPPORT THEY NEED ON THE STREET. >> THANK YOU, NILU. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> JULIE? >> SO, WHEN OUR DAUGHTER WAS 16, SHE WENT AND GOT A PART-TIME JOB, MAKING MINIMUM WAGE AT A CLOTHING STORE. SHE COULDN'T REALLY BUY ANYTHING FROM THE STORE BECAUSE THINGS WERE A LITTLE BIT PRICEY. BUT SHE WOULD SEE PEOPLE COMING IN AND FILLING UP A BAG AND WALKING OUT. AND THE MANAGER WOULD SAY THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. THAT IS NOT NORMAL. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE SHOULD TEACH OUR CHILDREN. SO, I THINK CIVIC EDUCATION IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, AND I THINK AS ADULTS, WE HAVE TO ROLE MODEL AND TEACH OUR CHILDREN WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG. AND WE HAVE TO SET EXPECTATIONS. SO, YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR BASIC NEEDS MET AND WE AS A SOCIETY NEED TO PROVIDE THAT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE STRICT AND FIRM FOR THOSE WHO ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, AND THOSE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO MAINTAIN AND SUSTAIN THOSE BUSINESSES FOR PEOPLE LIKE US. >> THANK YOU, JULIE. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> LET'S DO TWO MORE QUESTIONS, AND THEN WE WILL TAKE A SMALL BREAK. KATY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH YOU. CONSIDERING HOW MUCH TIME AND ENERGY WAS TAKEN UP WITH ETHICS ISSUES IN THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS, WHAT WILL YOU DO TO LIMIT YOUR POTENTIAL ETHICS CONFLICTS ONCE YOU ARE SEATED? >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT. SO, I HAVE WORKED FOR THE CITY FOR SOME TIME, AND SO, I HAVE GOTTEN VERY USED TO DISCLOSING ANYTHING THAT MIGHT IN FACT HAVE A FINANCIAL ETHICS ISSUE. AND SO, DISCLOSURES ARE GREAT, BUT THEY DON'T GET US ALL THE WAY, PEOPLE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE DETAILS OF WHAT THAT MEANS WHAT THE JEWEL IMPLICATIONS ARE. [ INAUDIBLE ] AND PUTTING THE FACTS OUT THERE. WE NEED TO TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT, TO BE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT, AND SO I THINK SOMETIMES WE CAN GIVE MORE INFORMATION THAN WE HAVE TO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN FACT BUILDING THE TRUST WITH OUR COMMUNITIES. SO, DISCLOSURES ARE GREAT, BUT IF IT COMES DOWN TO IT, I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM A DECISION IN WHICH I WOULD HAVE FINANCIAL ETHICS ISSUES, THEN SO BE IT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING THAT. >> THANK YOU, KATY. DEBORA ? >> 10-Q, I AM GUESSING THIS HAS TO DO WITH ETHICS ISSUE REGARDING SOME COUNCILMEMBERS THAT REPRESENTED DISTRICTS WHICH ALSO HAD BUSINESSES, WHICH WAS FOR THE DELIVERY OF FOOD. AND ANOTHER WAS A BIG FIGHT ABOUT IS THIS LOWERING THE ETHICS OR IS IT TAKING AWAY FROM WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE, [ INAUDIBLE ]. I WOULD TELL PEOPLE, DON'T EVEN BOTHER WITH PDR, JUST PRINTED OUT AND YOU CAN HAVE IT. SO, THE OTHER ISSUE IS THIS. IF YOU ARE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DISTRICT, THAT KIND OF TAKES AWAY YOUR POWER AT LARGE AND OTHER FOLKS WHO MAY NOT HAVE THE JOB YOU HAVE, LIKE SHE OWNS THE BUSINESS. DOES THAT MEAN THAT IF SHE HAS THIS JOB, SHE HAS TO RECUSE HERSELF FROM ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE BUSINESS OR DELIVERY FEES? AND THAT WAS THE ISSUE WE WERE STRUGGLING WITH. I WILL BE FRANK BECAUSE I DID SPEAK TO COUNCILMEMBER MORE WHEN SHE CALLED, AND I DID TALK TO SOME OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO THINK THAT NOW THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE DELIVERING AND WE HAVE THESE APP IS AND WE HAVE ALL THESE THINGS, EVERYBODY DOES MORE THINGS NOW, AND YOU CAN'T JUST FIND YOURSELF WITHOUT REPRESENTATION ON A REALLY CRITICAL ISSUE. >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . JIM? >> I HAVE WORKED WITH THE PUBLIC SECTOR FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS, AND WITH DISCLOSURE AND ETHICS, AND I REALLY HAVE NEVER HAD FRANKLY ANY INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY BESIDES OWNING A HOUSE. [ INAUDIBLE ] SO, ETHICS TO ME ARE PRETTY SIMPLE. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY CONFLICTS . I DO THINK THAT IS A COUNCIL TALKS ABOUT ETHICS, THE COMMUNICATION IS IMPORTANT. I DON'T THINK THAT EVERYBODY NECESSARILY UNDERSTOOD THE ETHICS PROPOSAL, AND I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF THERE WAS A BETTER UNDERSTANDING FROM THE COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE ABOUT IT. >> THANK YOU, JIM. NILU? >> UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT CONFLICTS I WOULD HAVE. I FEEL SIMILAR IN YOUR BOAT, BUT I WOULD DO WHAT I COULD TO REMOVE THOSE FROM MY PLATE. BUT ALSO, I WOULD RECUSE MYSELF IF THAT WAS NECESSARY, IF IT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE CHOICE AFTER DISCUSSING THE SEATTLE ETHICS AND ELECTIONS COMMISSION, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, TRUST IN OUR CHOICES AND SOCIETY. LIKE I SAID, I WORK IN DEMOCRACY, AND AT A TIME WHEN OUR TRUST IN OUR GOVERNMENT IS FALLING, I WOULD DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR VOTERS AND OUR CITIZENS CAN TRUST [ INAUDIBLE ]. BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT WOULD REDUCE TRUST AND ELECTIONS. SO GENERALLY, YES, I WOULD RECUSE MYSELF IF I HAD TO, BUT MOSTLY MY NORTHSTAR WOULD BE MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE TRUST THEIR GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED REALLY BADLY. >> THANK YOU, NILU. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> JULIE? THAT'S SO, I HAVE BEEN A PUBLIC SERVANT FOR 30 YEARS IN EDUCATION . IN EDUCATION, ETHICS IS CRITICAL, AND TRANSPARENCY IS VERY IMPORTANT. SO, I HAVE LIVED, YOU KNOW, FOR 30 YEARS AS AN ADULT, AS A PUBLIC SERVANT WITHOUT ANY ISSUES, HOWEVER I DO KNOW THAT IN THIS APPOINTED SEAT THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CONCERNS. SO, FIRST OF ALL, TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, EARNING THE TRUST, AND I HAVE SERVED ON BOARDS WHERE I DIDN'T HAVE TO EXCUSE MYSELF. AGAIN, I THINK COMMUNICATION IS IMPORTANT. LET THEM KNOW WHY YOU CAN'T VOTE ON CERTAIN THINGS, WHY YOU HAVE TO REMOVE. OR KNOWING THE POLICIES, MAYBE PERHAPS THERE IS AN AREA WHERE MY EXPERTISE MAY BE VALUED, THEN I DO HAVE TO SHARE THAT KNOWLEDGE, AND PERHAPS STRENGTHEN. BUT IT IS NOT FOR MY OWN BENEFIT, BUT IT IS REALLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> ROB? >> I THINK THIS IS WHERE I WILL GO BACK TO MY FIRST CAREER AS A NAVAL OFFICER. FOUR YEARS IN COLLEGE, LEARNING WHAT THAT TAKES, WHAT THAT MEANS, WHAT THAT TRUST IS THAT THE PUBLIC PLACES IN THEIR MILITARY, AND HOW YOU CAN LIVE UP TO THAT, ALL YOU NEED TO EARN THAT. AND THEN YOU ARE OPERATING AROUND DANGEROUS EQUIPMENT, YOU'RE RUNNING A NUCLEAR REACTOR. YOU HAVE GOT TO FOLLOW THE BOOK TO THE TEA. THIS IS A WORLD OF PROCEDURES, THIS IS A WORLD OF BEING ACCOUNTABLE, MAKING SURE THE PAPERWORK IS RIGHT, MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS RIGHT, BECAUSE THE STAKES ARE SO HIGH. IT IS A SAFETY THING FOR THE CREW, IT IS A NATIONAL SECURITY THING. THAT IS THE BAR AND STARTED MY CAREER ON AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT STUCK WITH ME EVER SINCE. YOU SEE I KEPT THE SHORT HAIRCUT EVER SINCE, LIKE IT HAS BEEN WITH ME. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT SEATTLE, LOOKING AT WHAT OUR VOTERS EXPECT IN TERMS OF DISCLOSURE, PUBLIC RECORDS, WHAT WE ARE DOING, WHEN WE ARE COMMUNICATING WITH OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS, ET CETERA, WE HAVE READ ARTICLES IN THE SEATTLE TIMES, WE KNOW WE HAVE GOT TO HOLD OURSELVES TO A HIGH STANDARD AND MAKE SURE WHAT THE PUBLIC EXPECTS IS WHAT WE DO. ASK THANK YOU, ROB. OKAY, LAST QUESTION BEFORE THE BREAK, WE WILL START WITH DEBORA . NO KINGS OR QUEENS , SHOULD ELECTED OFFICIALS BE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARD AS THEIR CONSTITUENTS IN INSTANCES OTHER THAN ARRESTS RELATED TO PUBLIC PROTESTS IF YOU WERE CHARGED AND EITHER FOUND GUILTY OR PLED GUILTY TO THE CRIME OF THINGS SUCH AS FRAUD, THEFT, DUI, WHEN YOU RESIGN FROM YOUR POSITION. IF NOT, WHY NOT? >> OKAY, WELL, I -- OBVIOUSLY, EVERYONE IS HELD UNDER [ INAUDIBLE ] AND WE ARE ALL HELD TO THE LAW IN THE SAME STANDARD AND NO ONE IS ABOVE IT, SO, IF I WERE -- FELONY, MISDEMEANOR, I DON'T KNOW, FEDERAL CHARGE, YEAH, I GUESS. [ INAUDIBLE ] IF I'M OUT THERE PROTESTING, WHICH IS MY RIGHT TO DO, NOT IN MY CAPACITY AS A COUNCILMEMBER, WHICH WE DID DURING GEORGE FLOYD, AND WE ALSO HAD OUR POLICE CHIEF [ INAUDIBLE ] IF THAT MEANS GETTING ARRESTED, THEN I WILL GET ARRESTED, I KIND OF LIKE THE SAME ATTITUDE. WE ARE SEEING SUGAR CITY, WE ARE AS A READY, AND WE ARE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO GET OUT THERE, NOT JUST PEOPLE OF COLOR, WITH OUR BODIES AND VOICES TO STOP WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN LOS ANGELES. SO, ON THAT ASPECT, ABSOLUTELY, I WOULD TAKE MY PUNISHMENT, AND CERTAINLY ANY OTHER CRIME, YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE, [ INAUDIBLE ] NO KINGS DAY, WHICH IS SAD THAT WE HAD TO HAVE A NO KINGS DAY, THAT OF COURSE WE ARE HELD -- IN EFFECT, I WOULD ARGUE THAT WE ARE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD. >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . I'M NOT SURE -- AND I WILL GIVE YOU ANOTHER CHANCE TO ANSWER. THIS SAID NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC PROTESTS. THIS IS SPECIFIC TO IF YOU ARE FOUND GUILTY OR PLEAD GUILTY TO CRIMES SUCH AS FRAUD, THEFT, DUI, NOT RELATED TO PROTESTING, WOULD YOU RESIGN , IF NOT, WHY NOT? AND I WILL GIVE YOU ANOTHER CHANCE WITH THAT. >> OKAY, WELL I GUESS I WOULD RESIGN, BUT I GUESS IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHETHER -- EVERYONE HAS A SIXTH AMENDMENT RIGHT TO TRIAL THAT I WOULD PROBABLY -- THERE MAY BE A REASON THAT I DID WHAT I DID, I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD HAVE A JURY IF THEY FOUND ME GUILTY, I GUESS. BUT THAT IS KIND OF NEBULOUS BUT IF I KILLED SOMEBODY, ABSOLUTELY. BUT YOU KNOW, IF I BY ACCIDENT PICKED UP A SALAD AT QSC AND DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS IN MY CAR, I'M NOT GOING TO RESIGN, SO THAT IS A LITTLE BIT DOWN THE ROAD THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHO ASKED THAT QUESTION, SO WE CAN TALK TO YOU AT THE BREAK, BUT -- >> [ INAUDIBLE ] >> OKAY, THANK YOU, DEBORA . SO, AGAIN, I KNOW THIS WAS A LONG ONE, BUT JIM, I WILL JUST CLARIFY. IF THIS SAYS IF YOU WERE FOUND GUILTY OR PLED GUILTY, SO WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT PROTESTING, WE ARE NOT TALKING THAT I DIDN'T KNOW I DID IT. AND DEBORA , IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ANOTHER SPIN AT THE END, FINDS YOU, BUT OTHERWISE, JIM, GO AHEAD, JIM. >> DO I GET TWO SHOTS, TOO? YES, I WOULD RESIGN. IF YOU DON'T, YOU REALLY UNDERMINE THE PUBLIC TRUST. AND I THINK IT IS REALLY VERY IMPORTANT, SO IF I WAS CONVICTED OF SOMETHING ASIDE FROM A PROTEST AND I HAD BEEN TO THE NO KINGS PROTEST, AND I THINK I HAVE TO SAY, WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL IS DISGUSTING AND IT IS UNFORTUNATE, AND IT UNFORTUNATELY IS TAINTING ALL OF GOVERNMENT. IT TAINTS THE STATE, THE WAY PUBLIC LOOKS AT IT, SO WE NEED INTEGRITY, AND WE NEED PEOPLE TO STEP UP, AND I WOULD RESIGN. >> THANK YOU, JIM. NILU? >> WELL, I AM THE OLDEST CHILD, AND SO VERY MUCH A RULE FOLLOWER. I WANT TO KNOCK ON WOOD, BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN HAVE A SPEEDING TICKET IN MY PAST. BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT I WOULD DO THAT WOULD GET ME IN THAT SCENARIO, BUT YES, I WOULD RESIGN. AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO WHAT I SAID EARLIER ABOUT THE PUBLIC TRUST AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE FEEL THEY ARE REPRESENTED BY PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF THE SYSTEM. AND I SHOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE I AM A HESITANT RULE BREAKER DOESN'T MEAN THAT I AM SUPER JUDGMENTAL . I HAVE SIBLINGS THAT I HAD TO LET NEGOTIATE WITH. >> THANK YOU, NILU. JULIE? >> SO AGAIN, BEING AN EDUCATOR, I STAY AWAY FROM TROUBLES, BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHERE I HAVE TO FIGHT, AND I THINK THERE ARE DIFFERENCES. SO, IF I'M FOUND GUILTY, MOST DEFINITELY, I WILL. YOU KNOW? BUT I ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT I REALLY THINK OF EVERY HUMAN OF EQUAL VALUE. SO, BECAUSE I AM AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, IT DOESN'T GIVE ME GRACE. IT DOESN'T MATTER. SO, YES, I AM FOR THAT, BUT ALSO, I WANT US TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE RULES AND HOW WE CONTEXTUALIZE IT, RIGHT? SO, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON WHO IS PROSECUTED, FOR WHAT REASON, AND THEY MAY HAVE THEIR NARRATIVE, SO I WANT TO HAVE AT LEAST A HEARING, SO I WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DESCRIBE , BUT THAT SAID, I DO AGREE THAT WE HAVE TO BE ROLE MODELS AND WE HAVE TO SET HIGH EXPECTATIONS FOR US. >> THANK YOU, JULIE. >> [ APPLAUSE ] X AND ROB, JUST REAL QUICKLY TO REMIND EVERYBODY, THE QUESTION WAS SPECIFIC ABOUT BEING FOUND GUILTY OR PLEADING GUILTY. ROB, GO AHEAD. >> I LOVE THAT THERE IS A PROTEST CARVEOUT IN THIS QUESTION, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT IN 2025. IF BETSY'S DELIVERY WAS FASTER, I WOULD HAVE MAYA TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TO PROTECT DEMOCRACY SHIRT, BUT IT IS STILL ON ITS WAY, IT'S SLOW. I THINK POLITICIANS AND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS NEED TO BE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD, I THINK THAT IS MY FIRST REACTION WHEN I HEARD THIS QUESTION. THE PHRASE THAT RESONATES WITH ME, EVER SINCE I WAS A KID, EVER SINCE I SAW LOCAL TOWN GOVERNMENT IN ACTION, AS IF YOU WERE A PUBLIC SERVANT, YOU'RE SERVING THE CONSTITUENTS. WE ARE THE BOSSES, THEY ARE THE MANAGERS, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO VOTE FOR YOU, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO VOTE YOU OUT OF OFFICE WHEN YOU'RE NOT DOING A GOOD JOB. I THINK WE ARE BEHOLDEN TO THAT GROUP, AND IF I DISAPPOINT THAT GROUP BY MAKING A MISTAKE, GUILTY OR CONVICTED GUILTY, I AM OUT. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, ROB. KATY? >> THIS IS PROBABLY THE EASIEST QUESTION OF THE NIGHT, SO THANKS. [ INAUDIBLE ] SORRY. YEAH. I WOULD. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD DO. AND THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SERVING YOU SHOULD DO. SO, I WILL YIELD MY TIME TO [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> THANK YOU. DEBORA , IF YOU WANTED TO FOLLOW UP? >> [ INAUDIBLE ] I WAS JUST GOING TO DO THIS WHILE EVERYONE WAS TALKING. YES, I WOULD RESIGN. YES. WE ARE AS PUBLIC SERVANTS HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD. SORRY. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR CLARITY. ALL RIGHT, I HAVE 7:02 ON THE CLOCK. LET'S DO IT -- DO YOU WANT FIVE MINUTES OR EIGHT MINUTES? [ LAUGHTER ] FIVE MINUTES OKAY? ALL RIGHT, FIVE MINUTES, WE WILL COME BACK AT 7:07. >> [ RECESS ] [ CAPTIONER STANDING BY ] >> [ MUSIC ] >>> THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW RETURNING TO THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT 5 THEY CAN SEE FOR HIM, HOSTED BY UNIFIED OUTREACH. AND ONCE AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CANDIDATES, JAMES BOUREY, NILU JENKS, JULIE KANG, ROBERT WILSON, KATY HAIMA, AND DEBORA JUAREZ. ROUND OF APPLAUSE, PLEASE. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> SO, WE HAVE GOT ABOUT 50 MORE MINUTES. WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE OF GETTING THROUGH MOST OF THE QUESTIONS, BUT HOW ABOUT WE BREAK IT UP REAL QUICK WITH SOME OF THE RAISE THE PADDLE, THESE WILL BE JUST REALLY QUICK ANSWERS. AND QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. FIRST QUESTION, DO YOU SUPPORT FREE LOCAL BUS SERVICE THROUGHOUT SEATTLE? OH, OKAY, OKAY. DO YOU SUPPORT CHARTER SCHOOLS? I NEED ANSWERS FROM EVERYBODY. ALL RIGHT. THROUGH THE FIRE, RIGHT? DO YOU SUPPORT AN EXPANSION OF TINY HOME SHELTERS IN DISTRICT 5? DO YOU SUPPORT SARAH NELSON'S LEGISLATION PENALIZING OPEN DRUG USE? ARE YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE OPEN DRUG USE? THAT YOU GET TICKETED FOR THAT? DO YOU SUPPORT THAT? OKAY, EVERYBODY'S PADDLES ARE KIND OF MIDWAY, LET'S GET THEM UP OR DOWN. ALL RIGHT. PROTESTS IN SEATTLE HAVE SHUT DOWN TRAFFIC MOVEMENT IN SEATTLE'S DOWNTOWN AREA, AS WELL AS VARIOUS FREEWAYS, HIGHWAYS, AND BRIDGES. DO YOU SUPPORT LIMITING THESE TYPES OF PROTESTS ? I'M WAITING. DO YOU SUPPORT LIMITING THE MOVEMENT OF PROTESTS THAT SHUT DOWN FREEWAYS AND HIGHWAYS? OKAY. EVERYBODY GOOD? WE ARE ALL KIND OF WHISTLING. CAN I GET EVERYBODY'S UP AND DOWN AT THE SAME TIME? OKAY. OKAY, ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THESE? I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE USED FOR MUCH MORE MILD -- >> I SUPPORT THE STUDENTS IN CHARTER SCHOOLS, DO WE SUPPORT THE FUNDING? >> LET ME GET THE AUDIENCE -- BY RAISE OF HANDS, WHO WOULD LIKE THAT AS A QUESTION THAT DESERVES A ONE MINUTE ANSWER, RAISE YOUR HAND. SORRY, GUYS, >> [ INAUDIBLE ] THERE ARE LIKE TANKS IN OUR AREA AND IF WE HAVE TO SHUT DOWN THE HIGHWAY TO NOT LET -- >> OKAY, BY AUDIENCE APPROVAL HERE, SHOULD WE GET RID OF ALL THE RAISE THE PADDLES AND JUST GO TO QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS? THAT IS GOING TO CUT INTO YOUR QUESTION, SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT TO YOU. BY RAISE OF HANDS, SHOULD WE THROW AWAY THE RAISE THE PADDLE ? WHO WANTS TO THROW IT AWAY? WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING, DO NOT WANT TO HAVE THE BULLET QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, DO YOU JUST WANT TO GO TO THE AUDIENCE QUESTIONS? >> THE LAST QUESTION STARTED WITH DEBORAH I BELIEVE, SO WE ARE BACK TO JIM? OH, OH, OKAY, SORRY, OKAY. STARTING WITH NILU. DO PERSUADERS -- PERSUASIVE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS MAKE IT SAFER, FOR EXAMPLE, CCTV AUTO LICENSE PLATE READERS, TRAFFIC CAMERAS, WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES? >> WELL, THE ALTERNATIVES IS MORE POLICE, I ASSUME, BUT THERE ARE ALSO THINGS LIKE INVESTING IN BETTER DESIGN THAN OUR STREETS, AND DESIGNED TO DRIVE TRAFFIC AND BUILD COMMUNITY. FOR EXAMPLE, AURORA, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE PEDESTRIAN STREETS AND ACTUALLY TREAT THE AREA LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD INSTEAD OF A PLACE THAT NEEDS TO BE POLICED ALL THE TIME, GIVE THEM TREES, GIVEN BUSES, GIVEN WALKWAYS, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO TO MAKE PLACES SAFER. NORMALLY THEY ARE THE ONES THAT DEVELOP COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT D5 COULD REALLY BENEFIT FROM ACROSS THE DISTRICT. >> THANK YOU, NILU. JULIE? >> WELL, I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO START DOING SOME PILOT PROGRAMS ACROSS THE AREA, SO YES ON THAT. HOWEVER, TRAFFIC CAMERAS, I KNOW WE HAVE THEM. SOME OF YOU HAVE MAYBE EVEN GOTTEN A TICKET AND BOUGHT IT FOR A LOT OF THE REASONS, SO AGAIN, I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DATA AND HOW SOME DATA INFORMED DECISIONS ON HOW WE ARE GOING TO USE IT AND WHAT IS THE PURPOSE, AND LASTLY, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS TO KNOW THE REASON FOR HAVING THESE, AND HAVING THEIR INPUT, BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF TIMES, WE JUST GO AND DO IT, AND THEN PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHY, SO WHEN THERE IS NO [ INAUDIBLE ], IT IS HARD TO HAVE PEOPLE FOLLOW RULES, SO IF WE CAN JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE DATA TO SUPPORT WHY WE NEED TO HAVE CCTV'S, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC CAMERAS, ALL OF THAT, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE BETTER. >> THANK YOU, JULIE. ROB? >> I THINK THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY PLACES WORK TECHNOLOGY COULD DO A LOT. WE TALKED ABOUT [ INAUDIBLE ] FOR LICENSE PLATES, BUT WHEN YOU SEE AN AMBER ALERT GO OFF, WOULDN'T IT BE NICE TO HAVE SOME WORK CAMERAS OUT THERE THAT COULD FIND THAT CAR QUICKLY? I SURE THINK SO. SPEED LIMITS IS ANOTHER ONE, I THINK THAT IS A MUCH LESS CONTROVERSIAL ONE. ROOSEVELT BUILT A HIGHWAY, BUT ALSO A PLACE THAT A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS ARE TRYING TO CROSS, [ INAUDIBLE ]. YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK LEFT, YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK RIGHT, THEN THE CAR JUST ZOOMS DOWN AT 45 MILES PER HOUR. I THINK THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TICKETING SOMEBODY AT 26 AT 45 AND TICKETING SOMEBODY AT 40. WE WENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE CENTERS, WHICH ARE GREAT PLACES AROUND THE CITY, BY THE WAY, [ INAUDIBLE ], YOU CAN BORROW A SPEED GUN FROM ONE OF THEM IF YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH I HAVE SAT THERE BEFORE AND I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE GO 45 MILES PER HOUR ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET AND I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE OKAY. WE NEED TO START ON THE MAIN THOROUGHFARES AND DO THAT, I THINK THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY CAN REALLY MAKE OUR CITY BETTER AND SAFER. >> THANK YOU, ROB. KATY? >> YEAH, SO I THINK [ INAUDIBLE ], WE NEED SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS AND WE NEED LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS, SO I THINK B-SCAN FILL SOME OF THOSE SHORT-TERM GAPS. THEY ARE LIMITED IN WHAT THEY ARE ABLE TO DO. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF PRIVACY TRADE-OFFS THERE, BUT I THINK FOR ME, THE THING I AM MOST EXCITED ABOUT ARE LOOKING AT THOSE LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS, THOSE LONG-TERM STRATEGIES. TALKING ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THESE STREETS, WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW MANY CROSSINGS WE CAN HAVE, WE CAN DO SPEED HUMPS, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT TREATMENTS WE CAN DO TO GET TO THE SAME OBJECTIVE, INSTEAD OF JUST USING CAMERAS AND PUNITIVE MEASURES TO GET PEOPLE. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS LIMITED FUNDING. WE WOULD LOVE SPEED BUMPS EVERYWHERE, SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THAT. THIS IS AN AREA I WOULD BE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, WORKING WITH COMMUNITIES TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GIVE POWER BACK TO PEOPLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN HELP SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC ON THE STREETS. THEY KNOW THE STREETS BEST, THAN OTHER TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND WHERE IT IS COMING FROM, SO I WOULD BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THOSE LONG-TERM HOLISTIC SOLUTIONS. >> THANK YOU, KATY. DEBORA ? >> YOU'RE GOING TO GET MAD AT ME FOR ASKING, BUT CAN YOU ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN? [ INAUDIBLE ] IF WE'RE JUST TALKING TRAFFIC, IF WE ARE JUST TALKING GENERAL CRIME. DID IT SAY? >> DOES PERVASIVE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS MAKE US SAFER ? FOR EXAMPLE, CCTV, AUTO LICENSE PLATE READERS, TRAFFIC CAMERAS, WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES? >> YES, LET ME EXPLAIN SOMETHING HERE, BECAUSE WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL, EVERY TIME [ INAUDIBLE ] , WE HAD FIGHTS WITH THE ACLU, FOR GOOD REASON, YOU SHOULD HAVE THEM. SO, SHOT SPOTTER CAMERA VESTS, CCTV, LICENSE READERS, DRONES, TRAFFIC CAMERAS, BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF VIOLATING PERSONAL SPACE AND PRIVACY, WE ALSO DIDN'T WANT TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF CRIMINALIZING TRAFFIC BEHAVIORS SO THAT THERE IS A CAMERA, BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAD TO PUT THEM WE HAD TO DO THE SCENARIOS AROUND SCHOOLS, [ INAUDIBLE ] FOR CHILDREN AND PEOPLE SHOULD BE CITED FOR THAT FOR SAFETY PURPOSES. HIGH-LEVEL TRAFFIC AREAS, TRANSIT STATIONS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CAMERAS THERE, BECAUSE A LOT OF OVERDOSES AND DEATHS. AND ALSO, IT DOES HELP OFFICERS, AND WHEN YOU ARE DOWN 600 OR 700 OFFICERS, YOU HAVE TO RELY SOMETIMES ON SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS. NOT JUST TO REST CRIME, BUT ALSO TO PREVENT CRIME. AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU REMEMBER THE SHOT SPOTTER , SOME NEIGHBORHOODS DIDN'T WANT TO, SOMEDAY, IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . JIM? >> SO, MY ANSWER IS YES TO ALL OF THE ABOVE, THERE REALLY CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. RED LIGHT CAMERAS, SPEEDING TICKETS. THERE DOES NEED TO BE GUIDELINES ABOUT TECHNOLOGY IS USED, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE PUBLIC CONVERSATION, I WOULD JUST GIVE YOU FOR INSTANCE -- DAILY, I WALK ALONG NORTHGATE WAY. AT EIGHTH AVENUE, IT IS UNBELIEVABLE. WHEN I WAIT TO CROSS, I WAIT UNTIL ALL THE PEOPLE THAT RUN THE LEAD -- RED LIGHT OUR PAST -- [ INAUDIBLE ] IF I WERE A BLIND PERSON, I WOULD BE DEAD MANY TIMES, LITERALLY. [ INAUDIBLE ] BIG DIFFERENCE IN OUR SAFETY AND THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO WALK PLACES, AND I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. >> WE HAVE A CHALLENGE WITH A NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS WE HAVE TODAY. FOLKS, WE ARE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THAT IN A FEW YEARS, IT IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE FOR US. SO, USING TECHNOLOGY [ INAUDIBLE ] EXTEND WHAT WE DO, [ INAUDIBLE ] WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. [ INAUDIBLE ] THE WHOLE 25 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON ALL THE STREETS, ALL THAT HAS DONE IN THOSE INSTANCES IS HAVE PEOPLE RESPECT THE LAWS THAT ARE THERE. IT IS AN UNREALISTIC SPEED LIMIT. >> THANK YOU, JIM. >> AND JUST REFRESH MY MEMORY. NILU, DID YOU START WITH YOU? OKAY, SO JULIE, WE WILL START WITH YOU. AND HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH STRESS AND CONFLICT IN YOUR DAILY LIFE? >> SO, AS I HAVE SHARED, AND FINALIZING FINISHING UP MY MASTERS, MY SECOND MASTERS IN CLINICAL MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING. AND IN THAT WORK, AND AS A TEACHER, THERE ARE A LOT OF STRESSFUL CONFLICTS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. AND AGAIN, I THINK WHEN PEOPLE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE, IT IS EASY, BUT WHEN THEY ARE ON DIFFERENT PAGES, THEY HAVE TO LEARN AND LISTEN TO EACH OTHER, SO LISTENING IS CRITICAL, AND YOU HAVE TO SEE THEIR PERSPECTIVES. WE ALWAYS TELL OUR STUDENTS, CONSIDER OTHERS ' PERSPECTIVES. I THINK THAT ALSO ECHOES FOR ADULTS, AND THAT WE HAVE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT, WHAT ARE THE PROS AND CONS AND HAVE A DIALOGUE. I THINK WE ARE MISSING CIVILITY AT THIS TIME, SO IF WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER'S PERSPECTIVE, THEN I THINK WE ARE ABLE TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS. >> THANK YOU. ROB? >> I THINK SOMETIMES AFTER AN EMAIL OR MESSAGE, THAT GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT, TAKE A DEEP BREATH, WALK AWAY, I DON'T REPLY RIGHT AWAY. I THINK THAT IS A GOOD PRACTICE FOR EVERYBODY. THE OTHER THING IS I THINK THE CONFLICT HERE IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT LISTENING TO THE OTHER PERSON, UNDERSTANDING WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM, AND LOOKING FOR COMPROMISE. OFTEN, IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS BINARY, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, THERE IS AN EASY ANSWER TO ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. IS OFTEN SOMETHING IN BETWEEN AND MAYBE THEY HAVE A TON OF FEEDBACK THAT YOU CAN BENEFIT FROM. SO, IT MIGHT SEEM A CONFLICT THAT IS, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING [ INAUDIBLE ]. ON THE OTHER SIDE, BEING A PARENT, I THINK TEACHES YOU A NUMBER OF LESSONS. ONE OF THEM IS THAT A PARENT'S FIRST THOUGHT IS OFTEN WRONG. I THINK THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD BOOKS AND STUDIES OUT THERE ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH ADOLESCENT MINDS THAT ARE GROWING AND REACTING A CERTAIN WAY, AND EDUCATING YOURSELF, LEARNING ABOUT HOW TO CONNECT WITH OTHERS CAN REALLY BENEFIT YOU LONG-TERM. >> THANK YOU, ROB. KATIE ? >> WAS A QUESTION ABOUT STRESS OR WAS IT ALSO ABOUT CONFLICT? >> STRESS AND CONFLICT. >> THANK YOU, SORRY. [ INAUDIBLE ] PLYMOUTH MARTINI WITH A TWIST. RIGHT? AND THEN GET BACK TO IT, RIGHT? SO, MY HUSBAND [ INAUDIBLE ] RESTAURANTS RECRUIT COVID, LIKE STRESS IS NOT UNFAMILIAR TO US BUT I AM A PARENT OF A TODDLER AND A BABY. [ INAUDIBLE ] AND CURRENTLY DOING 2 1/2 JOBS. I AM ONLY STRESSED BECAUSE I LOVE WHAT I DO AND THEY CARE A WHOLE LOT. DEALING WITH CONFLICT IS SOMETHING, TO YOUR POINT, WHERE YOU ARE A PARENT, THERE ARE A LOT OF TECHNIQUES WHERE YOU THINK TO YOURSELF [ INAUDIBLE ], AND YOU BRING THOSE INTO YOUR EVERYDAY LIFE. THE REASON I LOVE CONFLICT IS BECAUSE IT UNEARTHS THE THINGS THAT YOU CARE ABOUT [ INAUDIBLE ] AND WHEN YOU GET TO THAT POINT, YOU CAN THEN FIGURE OUT DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS YOU ARE WORKING ON. IF YOU COME UP WITH A SOLUTION, IT IS OFTEN NOT THE RIGHT ONE, THIS GIVES YOU THE TIME TO ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT YOUR VALUES, THINK ABOUT OTHER POTENTIAL IDEAS, AND [ INAUDIBLE ] TO FIND A COMMON GROUND. >> THANK YOU, KATY. DEBORA ? >> THANK YOU, I WILL BE QUICK. WHERE I COME FROM, THAT IS CALLED GOOD MEDICINE [ INAUDIBLE ] MENTAL HEALTH. SO, QUICKLY, I DO MY 10,000 STEPS, I AM ON MY EIGHTH BOOK, I LOVE PODCASTS, I AM BIG IN HOW WE RELATE TO OUR FAITH, OUR FAMILY, OUR COMMUNITY. I AM NOT ON ANY SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, I DON'T WATCH CABLE NEWS, AND AFTER EIGHT YEARS ON SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL, AND ALSO RAISING TWO MILLENNIAL DAUGHTERS, AND ALSO BEING A PUBLIC DEFENDER AND THE JUDGE, I AM USED TO STRESS AND ADVERSITY , CLASHING OF IDEAS, AND WHAT WE CALL STRUGGLE SESSIONS. YET, YOU CAN DO THAT AND I WANT TO END WITH WHAT [ INAUDIBLE ], AND THAT IS I AM NOT SMARTER THAN ANYONE, I HAVE JUST LIVED LONGER, AND FOR THE BOOMERS OUT THERE, THERE IS SOME WISDOM AS YOU GET OLDER WHEN YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON WHAT IS IMPORTANT, AND ALSO LOOKING INTO PEOPLE'S HUMANITY, AND RECOGNIZING WHATEVER YOUR DIFFERENCES ARE, THAT HUMANITY PIECE HAS TO BE THERE FOR [ INAUDIBLE ] AND GIVE TO YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOUR CITY. >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . JIM? >> SO, MY SIMPLE AND QUICK ANSWER IS [ INAUDIBLE ]. MY WIFE WILL TELL YOU THAT I RUN WAY TOO MUCH, BUT IT HAS BEEN A GREAT RELEASE OVER THE 40 YEARS OF MY PUBLIC SERVICE, BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU, I HAVE WORKED FOR A LOT OF COUNCILMEMBERS, AND HOW IRONIC THAT I WOULD SAY THAT SOMETIMES THAT IS STRESSFUL. BUT I THINK THERE IS ALSO THE INTELLIGENCE TRAINING I HAVE RECEIVED OVER THE YEARS HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY VALUABLE WITH ME. HOW TO WORK WITH OTHERS AND TO ACHIEVE SOLUTIONS WORKING TOGETHER, BE RESPECTFUL, LISTEN CAREFULLY, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. ALSO, HOW TO WORK THROUGH CONFLICT. [ INAUDIBLE ] I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE HEARD THIS BEFORE, BUT JUST A WONDERFUL EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU CAN TAKE POSITIONS THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT LESSON TO LEARN. >> THANK YOU, JIM. >> ICING, I READ, I TURN TO COMMUNITY, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I DO WHEN I AM STRESSED. IN 2016, AFTER THAT ELECTION, THE FIRST THING I TURNED TO WAS HEALING THE HEART OF DEMOCRACY, THAT IS ACTUALLY HOW I CAME INTO POLITICS. [ INAUDIBLE ] ATTENTION OF CONVERSATION BETWEEN ALL OF US, I THINK THAT IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DEVELOP SKILLS TO LEARN HOW TO DISAGREE BETTER. IT IS ALSO WHY [ INAUDIBLE ], IT IS KNOWN TO REDUCE POLITICAL VIOLENCE. PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THE I.R.A. BOMBINGS STOPPED IN THE GOOD FRIDAY [ INAUDIBLE ]. SO, I LOOK FOR SOLUTIONS THAT MAKE US ALL DO BETTER. BUT REALLY, AS AN IRANIAN AMERICAN, I HAVE BEEN LABELED EITHER THE [ INAUDIBLE ] ON ONE SIDE OR THE AXIS OF EVIL. THE TRUTH IS THAT NONE OF THAT IS TRUE. AND HAVING TO WALK THAT PATH WHERE PEOPLE JUST MISREAD EACH OTHER AND HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING AND POLITICS PITS US AGAINST EACH OTHER, I HAVE ALWAYS HAD TO BE AN AMBASSADOR, A COMMUNICATOR THAT HAS PATIENCE FOR PEOPLE'S UNDERSTANDING. AND SO, THAT'S WHAT I DO, I WILL GROUND FOR EVERYBODY, I KNOW THAT PEOPLE COME TO THEIR THOUGHTS HONESTLY, AND START FROM THAT POINT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT I DON'T COME IN THINKING AND RIGHT. >> THANK YOU, NILU. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO STAY. JULIE, YOU STARTED THAT ROUND, RIGHT? LET'S STAY ON JULIE. LET'S DO JUST A QUICK 15 TO 32nd ANSWER, JUST TO LET US KNOW YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER. WHAT IS THE LAST SHOW THAT YOU BINGE WATCHED? >> SO, WE DON'T HAVE CABLE AND I DON'T REALLY WATCH TELEVISION BECAUSE I WOULD RATHER BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY , IN COMMUNITY SPACES, WORKING WITH OUR STUDENTS, MENTOR IN, AND BEING A CULTURAL BROKER TO OUR ETHNIC AAPI COMMUNITY, AND THERE IS SO MUCH WORK, SO I AM SORRY, I DON'T HAVE A FAVORITE SHOW. >> THANK YOU, JULIE. >> I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND TALK ABOUT THE TIMING. I READ A BOOK EARLIER THIS YEAR ON THE MAKING OF THE WEST WING, AND THEN I STARTED LISTENING TO A LOT OF WEST WING PODCASTS. THEY HIGHLIGHTED NOT TO WATCH EVERY EPISODE, AS THAT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF TIME, BUT TO WATCH THE EPISODES IN EACH SEASON, AND SOMETHING THAT REALLY TAUGHT YOU SOMETHING OR [ INAUDIBLE ], SO I WATCH PROBABLY ABOUT 20 TO 25 EPISODES OF THE WEST WING, AND I AM UP HERE PROBABLY BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN A LOT OF THE IDEALISM ON THAT SHOW, WHAT POLITICIANS SHOULD STAND FOR AND WHAT THIS COUNTRY CAN BE, SO, THAT WAS MY TAKE AWAY. >> THANK YOU, ROB. KATY? >> I DON'T WANT A LOT OF TV, BUT AND/OR. EVEN THOUGH IT IS DISNEY CORPORATIONS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, IT IS ALSO THE REBELLION THAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW, SO IT COULDN'T HAVE COME AT A BETTER TIME, I THINK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT IN ALL THESE OTHER SORTS OF THINGS ASIDE, BUT YEAH, JUST SOMETIMES NICE TO TURN OFF AND JUST SEE A WORLD WHERE THE REBELLION WORKS , SO -- >> THANK YOU, KATY. DEBORA ? >> [ INAUDIBLE ] UM, SUNDAY , YESTERDAY, I BINGED ABOUT FOUR HOURS OF THE , EVEN THOUGH I HAVE SEEN EVERY EPISODE, BECAUSE I LOVE SELENA, I LOVE THE WAY SHE TALKS, [ INAUDIBLE ] , SO, I AM A BIG BINGER ON NETFLIX AND PRIME AND HULU, AND I LIKE DOCUMENTARIES, AND I AM REALLY INTO POST-WORLD WAR II RIGHT NOW, [ INAUDIBLE ], AND THE TRIALS HAPPENED IN NUREMBERG. SO, AM A BIG HISTORY BUFF AND I LOVE READING THAT STUFF AND FINDING THE DOCUMENTARY ABOUT WHAT I READ, SO I CAN UNDERSTAND MORE. SO, THAT IS KIND OF ME, I AM A BIT BORING, SO -- >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . JIM? >> SO, WE LIKE ESCAPISM, MY WIFE AND I PREVIOUSLY DID GO TO A MOVIE THREE WEEKS AGO, I GUESS IT WAS, TO SEE SUPERMAN. I DON'T RECOMMEND IT [ LAUGHTER ] MAYBE I AM SHOWING MY AGE IN MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION. IT WASN'T WHAT I REMEMBER ANYWAY. >> THANK YOU, JIM. NILU? >> I DON'T TEND TO BINGE SHOWS, I TEND TO READ MORE, BUT I DO WATCH SHOWS. AND I WILL SAY, WE STARTED WASHING WITH MY KIDS, POKER FACE. SOMETHING [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, NOW BACK TO THE SERIOUS STUFF. AND WE WILL START WITH ROB. WHAT WOULD YOU PROPOSE TO TRANSITION THE UNHOUSED POPULATION INTO TEMPORARY HOUSING OR TREATMENT? WHAT OTHER CITIES DO YOU THINK HAVE FOUND SUCCESS USING INNOVATIVE AND SUSTAINABLE SOLUTIONS FOR THE UNHOUSED POPULATION? >> SO MUCH OF MY PASSION FOR THIS TOPIC COMES FROM BEING INTRODUCED TO MARY'S PLACE THROUGH AMAZON. I THINK THAT PARTNERSHIP HAS BEEN GREAT. THERE HAS BEEN ONE OF THE AMAZON BUILDINGS ON THE CAMPUS, THEY SHARE A BUILDING WITH AMAZON, AND THEY DO A [ INAUDIBLE ] EVERY YEAR. THAT'S WHERE I LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT THIS ISSUE, LEARNING ABOUT MARY'S PLACE, LEARNING ABOUT HOW CREATIVELY THEY USED HOTELS THAT WERE CLOSING DOWN IN THE SOUTH LAKE UNION AREA THAT WERE CLOSED DOWN YET, THAT THEY COULD USE IT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. THAT CREATIVITY OF CREATING SHELTER SPACE, READING UP ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT HELPFUL HOUSING PROGRAM AND HOW KING COUNTY THEN INVESTED IN GETTING MORE SHELTER SPACE, BUT ULTIMATELY, THAT JOURNEY FROM THE STREETS TO PERMANENT HOUSING WHEN THERE IS NOT ENOUGH SHELTER BEDS, THAT'S NOT A GOOD START. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH TINY HOMES, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN TRANSITION TO, SO I THINK THE DATA SHOWS THAT CITY HOUSING LIKE TINY HOMES, LIKE SOMETHING PERMANENT WAS THE BEST YOU CAN DO, AND I DO THINK WE NEED TO FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF OTHER CITIES. >> THANK YOU, ROB. KATY? >> THANKS. SO, I DO THINK WE HAVE SOME EXAMPLES BUT AS YOU SAID, THE TINY HOUSING, GETTING MORE EMERGENCY SHELTERS AND THINGS OUT THERE ARE DEFINITELY WAYS TO ADDRESS THINGS IN THE SHORT TERM, BUT WE HAVE A LONG-TERM ISSUE, TOO, AND THAT IS WITH HOUSING. WE NEED TO FIND MORE CREATIVE WAYS TO DELIVER AFFORDABLE HOUSING [ INAUDIBLE ] PARTICULARLY WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOT, YOU KNOW, FINDING IT AS MUCH ANYMORE, AND THERE ARE SOME INCREDIBLY PROMISING MODELS THAT DIFFERENT GROUPS ARE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF HOW WE FIND THAT AND HOW WE CAN [ INAUDIBLE ]. THE CITY SHOULD BE SUPPORTING THAT WORK AND REALLY WORKING TO SCALE THAT UP [ INAUDIBLE ] THE TRADITIONAL MODEL IS STARTING TO CRACK A LITTLE BIT. SO, I THINK FOR US, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THOSE SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS, THOSE LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS, AND I CAN'T THINK OF A CITY WHERE THEY HAVE SOLVED IT AND DONE IT RIGHT, BUT I THINK [ INAUDIBLE ] FROM DIFFERENT CITIES BUT OBVIOUSLY, CONTEXT IS DIFFERENT. [ INAUDIBLE ] VALUE AND JUST THE COST OF LAND HERE BRINGS A WHOLE DIFFERENT DIMENSION OF THE COMPLEXITY [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> THANK YOU, KATY. DEBORA ? >> THANK YOU. I WANT TO JUST QUICKLY GO OVER HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE AT, AND WHEN MAYOR MURPHY SAID 15 YEARS AGO WE WERE TRYING TO END HOMELESSNESS, WE WENT FROM UNSANCTIONED ENCAMPMENTS TO SANCTIONED ENVIRONMENT [ INAUDIBLE ] , TINY HOUSE VILLAGES TO TRANSITIONAL HOUSING TO ARBY'S. SO, ALL THAT TO SAY IS THERE IS A CONTINUUM OF HOW WE NEED TO MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT AND PROVIDE SERVICES. SO, OF COURSE, WE NEED TO BUILD MORE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING THAT OUR STAFF AND SOCIAL WORKERS CONNECT PEOPLE TO SERVICES THAT THEY NEED. THE PROBLEM THAT WE WERE SEEING, I THINK THE PROBLEM THAT YOU ALL ARE FRUSTRATED WITH, AND YOU DON'T JUST SEE IT IN D5, YOU SEE IT EVERYWHERE, IS WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU HAVE 70 2/10 AND ONLY -- WE HAVE WELL OVER 70 2/10 [ INAUDIBLE ] AND YOU ONLY HAVE -- I'M JUST GOING TO PICK A NUMBER BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE REALLY HIGH, YOU HAVE 100 PEOPLE, 90 PEOPLE. AND ONLY 11 ONE SERVICES. YOU CAN'T ARREST THEM. WHAT DO WE DO? AND SO, WE HAVE TO HAVE STRONGER WAYS , OFF RAMPS TO WORK WITH THOSE PEOPLE THAT -- BUT YOU CAN'T LIVE HERE, YOU CAN'T HAVE A TENT UNDER A BRIDGE. >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . JIM? >> SO, THE KEY TO THIS HAS TO BE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. THE PUBLIC CAN'T DO IT ALL. LEVERAGING THE RESOURCES [ INAUDIBLE ] WITH PRIVATE RESOURCES, [ INAUDIBLE ], REALLY IMPORTANT, WE DO NEED TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE ALSO NEED PERMANENT HOUSING. I WOULD SUGGEST PEOPLE LOOK AT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. [ INAUDIBLE ] ACTUALLY WORKED THERE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AS [ INAUDIBLE ]. THEY HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF ADDRESSING MUCH OF THE HOUSING ISSUES. DENVER HAS AS WELL, SO I LOOK TO THOSE MODELS BECAUSE THEY HAVE USED HOTELS. BUT HOMELESSNESS NEEDS TO BE TREATED NOT JUST WITH PROVIDING A HOME, IT HAS TO DO WITH DRUG ADDICTION, TREATMENT FOR DRUG ADDICTION, IT HAS TO DO WITH A WHOLE HOST OF ISSUES THAT GO BEYOND JUST BEING IN A HOUSE, AND THOSE NEED TO BE CASE MANAGED TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, THEN WE CAN TURN THINGS AROUND. >> THANK YOU, JIM. NILU? >> THINKING OF CITIES LOCALLY THAT I AM INTERESTED IN, TOO, LIKE I SAID EARLIER HAS HEATPUMP RENTAL STABILIZATION PROGRAM, BECAUSE PART OF IT IS ALSO MAKING SURE RENTS ARE REASONABLE. AND ALSO, THEY HAVE THIS REAL-TIME SHELTER BED AVAILABILITY INTO, THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BRING HERE SO [ INAUDIBLE ]. CITIES THAT I REALLY RESPECT, ALSO MINNEAPOLIS AS YOU MENTIONED. ALSO, HOUSTON THAT CAME TOGETHER AS A CITY AND SAID WE CAN'T JUST SIT HERE AND ARGUE WITH EACH OTHER AND BROUGHT INCORPORATED PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH EACH OTHER TO APTLY SOLVE PROBLEMS AND ADDRESS THEIR ISSUES THAT THEY ARE RECOGNIZED THEY SHARED, INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, YELLING AT EACH OTHER AND FIGHTING. AND FINALLY, I THINK A BIG PART OF THIS NEEDS TO BE PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS, WHAT CAN WE DO TO LIKE COVER SOMEONE'S SHORT-TERM BILLS? IF IT IS JUST A SMALL LINE, BECAUSE IT IS SO MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE AFTER IT HAS HAPPENED, THE TRAUMA IS ONGOING AT THAT POINT, [ INAUDIBLE ]. SO, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SUPPORT, AND WHATEVER CARE, YOU KNOW, THAT PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, TO TRY AND SUPPORT PEOPLE FROM FALLING INTO HOMELESSNESS IN THE FIRST PLACE. >> THANK YOU. JULIE? >> SO, I'M THINKING ABOUT UNHOUSED POPULATION IN DENVER, SAN FRANCISCO, LOS ANGELES, AND I KNOW THAT WE NEED MORE SHELTER BEDS, MORE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TREATMENT, ALONG WITH JUST NOT TINY HOMES. AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. I THINK ALL OF THESE ARE IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER, AND I SUPPORT A COMPASSIONATE, RESULTS DRIVEN APPROACH, SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO NOT JUST HOUSE THEM IN THESE TINY HOMES, BUT REALLY THINK ABOUT COORDINATED OUTREACH, ACCOUNTABILITY FOR SERVICE PROVIDERS, AND ITS SYSTEM THAT REALLY HELPS PEOPLE MOVE OFF THE STREET AND INTO RECOVERY. IT IS NOT COMPASSIONATE TO LEAVE PEOPLE IN CRISIS OR JUST TO TURN AWAY, BECAUSE THEY ARE NO LONGER FEELING SAFE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. I THINK WE REALLY HAVE TO THINK ABOUT A HOLISTIC APPROACH AND LOOK AT THE DATA OF WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, BECAUSE 10 YEARS LATER, WE ARE STILL IN THE SAME PLACE. >> THANK YOU, JULIE. UM, WE STARTED AT ROB WITH THAT ONE, RIGHT? OKAY, SO KATY, AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY JUST FOR BEING SO, UM, YOU KNOW, BEING A PART OF THIS. WE HAVE ABOUT 13 MORE MINUTES OF QUESTIONS, AND THEN WE WILL DO THE CLOSING STATEMENT. SO -- ALL RIGHT, KATY, HOW WILL YOU ENSURE YOU AND THE COUNCIL WILL SERVE ALL RACIAL, ETHNIC, AND RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES IN SEATTLE, AND THEN WE HAVE MANY EMIGRANT OWNED BUSINESSES ON AURORA, HOW CAN WE ENGAGE THEM SO THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THEIR ISSUES , ADVANCING INCLUSION, BUSINESS STRATEGIES THAT LOOK AT ALL OF OUR NEEDS? >> THAT IS A LONG QUESTION FOR ONE MINUTE. OKAY, THE FIRST PART, ACCOUNTABILITY, HOLDING OUR COUNTERPARTS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE WORK THEY ARE DOING AND SHOWING THAT THEY ARE REACHING OUT TO THE MEMBERS OF THEIR COMMUNITY WHO ARE GOING TO BE EITHER THE BENEFICIARIES OR POTENTIALLY HAVE A BURDEN OF THE POLICY DECISIONS WE ARE MAKING. SECOND, BUSINESSES ALONG AURORA, PART OF THIS, I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, I HAVE DONE A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT AS A COMMUNITY PLANNER AND I HAVE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT STRATEGIES, ABOUT HOW WE REACH OUT TO PEOPLE EFFECTIVELY. IT IS REALLY CHALLENGING, IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND RESOURCES. WE NEED INTERPRETERS WHO CAN'T JUST INTERPRET THE LANGUAGE, BUT ALSO CULTURALLY INTERPRETED, SO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE I THINK THAT AURORA IS AN INCREDIBLE EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THOSE PLACES WHERE YOU DRAW BLOOD BUSINESS INCUBATORS BECAUSE THE SPACES ARE CHEAP. AND EVEN AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LET'S REDO AURORA, LET'S CHANGE IT, LET'S REVITALIZE IT, IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF THE LIFEBLOOD ARE THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS , WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT A VISION THAT KEEPS THEM THERE, THAT KEEPS HIM A PLACE, AND ALSO PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO GROW AND EXPAND. >> THANK YOU, KATY. DEBORA ? >> OKAY, I NEED YOU TO READ THAT AGAIN BECAUSE THAT WAS -- OKAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO APOLOGIZE. >> [ INAUDIBLE ] PART OF THE PROBLEM. >> SO YOU SAID MEET THE NEEDS OF THE FIVE AND MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITY, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? YES START >> HOW WILL YOU ENSURE YOU AND THE COUNCIL WILL SERVE ALL RACIAL, ETHNIC, AND RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES IN SEATTLE? AND THEN -- SORRY [ INAUDIBLE ]. WE HAVE MANY EMIGRANT OWNED BUSINESSES ON AURORA, HOW CAN WE ENGAGE THEM, SO THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THEIR ISSUES, ADVANCING INCLUSION AND BUSINESS STRATEGIES THAT LOOK AT ALL OF OUR NEEDS? I WAS COMBINING BECAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS SEEING A COMMON THREAD OF ADDRESSING ALL COMMUNITIES, AND THEN SPECIFICALLY EMIGRANT BUSINESS COMMUNITIES. >> WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS AND MAYBE SOME PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE ON THAT SIGN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT IN EIGHT YEARS THAT I WAS IN SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL, THAT I WORKED REALLY HARD TO DO THAT. NOT ONLY AS I SHARED WITH SOME OF MY YOUNGER AND NEW COUNCILMEMBERS THAT HAD ELECTED AND CAME ON BOARD, [ INAUDIBLE ] YOUR VOTE WAY IS JUST AS MUCH IS ANYONE ELSE'S VOTE. YOU REPRESENT THE CITY OF SEATTLE AND EVERYBODY 'S PROBLEMS. THERE IS A REASON WHY WE WENT TO DISTRICT SYSTEM, BUT YOU HONOR THE NEEDS OF YOUR DISTRICT AND FOR ME, THAT IS LASER FOCUSED ON BRICK AND MORTAR TRANSIT, HOUSING, PUBLIC SAFETY, HOMELESSNESS, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE IT WHEN THE MAYOR WOULD CALL ME AND SAY WE ARE THINKING OF PUTTING THIS IN THE FIVE, AND I WOULD BE LIKE NO, YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THREE OF THOSE. AND I THINK WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT -- YOU WANT TO REPRESENT ANYONE. WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT LAKE CITY WAY, AND WE HAVE SO MANY SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE IMMIGRANT OWN, AND I REMEMBER WHEN ALL OF THIS WAS GOING ON DURING COVID AND PEOPLE WERE BREAKING IN AND COMING IN AND TAKING THINGS AND THEY WERE JUST GOING UP AND DOWN IN OTHER PLACES AS WELL. YOU ARE DOWN 700 OFFICERS, YOU REALLY AREN'T DOING THE BEST YOU CAN WITH THE TOOLS YOU HAVE TO TRY TO MAKE IT BETTER. THANK YOU. >> SORRY, THANK YOU, DEBORA . JIM? THAT'S SO, IT'S A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING. IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO LISTENING AND ENGAGING WITH PEOPLE. ENGAGING AT THE DISTRICT LEVEL, MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE, HAVING FORUMS THAT PEOPLE CAN COME AND TALK AND HAVE A CONVERSATION, AND HAVING THAT AT THE CITY LEVEL AS WELL. UNDERSTANDING ISSUES THAT PEOPLE BRING FORWARD, UNDERSTANDING THEIR CONCERNS OBVIOUSLY IS CRITICAL. WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT THE INVESTMENT FROM THE LENS OF WHAT IT AFFECTS AND WHO IS HELPED. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK ANY INVESTMENT THAT WE DO OUGHT TO COME WITH THAT PERSPECTIVE. >> THANK YOU, JIM. NILU? >> THIS IS A REALLY DENSE QUESTION, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEONE WHO IS FROM A MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY AND WHO SPEAKS THREE LANGUAGES, FARSI, ENGLISH, AND SPANISH, I THINK MAKING SURE WE ARE REACHING OUT IN LANGUAGE AND ARE HAVING SERVICES AND ARE CULTURALLY SENSITIVE IN OUR APPROACHES TO DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AND RELIGIOUS MINORITIES AND THEIR NEEDS IS ACTUALLY REALLY IMPORTANT BUT IT IS THE WAY TO GET BY AND I MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE UNDERSTANDING IN BOTH DIRECTIONS WHAT IS NEEDED AND WANTED. AND THEN IN TERMS OF SUPPORTING BUSINESSES, IT IS AGAIN REACHING OUT AND TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS WILL HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS. AND I APPRECIATE WHAT DEBORA SAID HERE, REGARDING REMEMBERING THAT THIS IS A CITYWIDE THING, AND KEEPING IN MIND THAT THERE IS A LOT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, AND MAKING SURE WE ARE BOUNCING EVERYBODY'S NEEDS ACROSS THE CITY. >> THANK YOU, NILU. JULIE? >> SO, I THINK THIS IS MY NARRATIVE, YOU KNOW? I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE EQUITABLE MODEL, INCLUSIVE MODEL, AND EVERYONE'S VOICES AT THE TABLE. AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DO THE SAME THING. SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO DIFFERENTIATE. AND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT TRANSLATION AND [ INAUDIBLE ] SERVICES, WE WANT IT REAL TIME. IT IS NOT THROUGH A GOOGLE TRANSLATE OR IT IS NOT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE ADVOCATING LIKE A YOUNG CHILD. A LOT OF OUR STUDENTS ARE SERVING AS INTERPRETERS AND THAT IS NOT THE ROLE OF THE STUDENTS ALL THE TIME. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT AS WE THINK ABOUT BUSINESSES, ESPECIALLY -- I MENTIONED THAT I VISITED ALMOST 50 BUSINESSES, AND IN PERSON, RELATIONAL. THAT IS NOT ONLY FOR ETHNIC COMMUNITY BUSINESSES. I THINK ALL BUSINESSES NEED THAT TENSION, TO BE ADVOCATING FOR THEM, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T COME TO SPACES LIKE THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING, YOU KNOW? CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE HAPPENING MIDDAY. SO, WE HAVE TO GO TO WHERE THEY ARE. >> THANK YOU, JULIE. ROB? >> I LOVE THAT OUR LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS A TITLE ONE SCHOOL. YOU HAVE KIDS FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS, YOUR KIDS FROM MANY DIFFERENT RELIGIONS BUT I HAVE MY KIDS COME HOME AND TEACH ME THINGS ABOUT NEW CULTURES, DIFFERENT RELIGIONS ON A WEEKLY BASIS. IT'S WONDERFUL TO EMBRACE THE DIVERSITY OF THE CITY, IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES THE CITY STRONG, IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES D5 STRONG I THINK THERE ARE THINGS THE NEXT COUNCILMEMBER CAN DO IN THIS DISTRICT, INCLUDING TRANSLATION SERVICES. YOU NEED TO BE PUTTING OUT YOUR NEWSLETTER IN DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, YOU NEED TO BE MAKING SURE THE MESSAGE GETS OUT. BUT YOU ALSO NEED TO BE CONSCIOUS ABOUT WHO IS ON YOUR STAFF, WHAT LOCATIONS ARE YOU PLACING THOSE OFFICES IN QUESTION WHERE ARE YOU HOLDING OFFICE HOURS, WHERE ARE YOU HOLDING MEETINGS? AND THEN GOING OUT AND MEETING THE BUSINESS OWNERS BUT SHOW UP AT THEIR FRONT DOOR DURING BUSINESS HOURS AND MEET THEM, SEE WHAT IS ON THEIR MIND, SEE WHAT THEY'RE STRUGGLING WITH. AND THEN BE READY TO ROLL UP YOUR SLEEVES, GET IN THE TRENCHES WITH THEM, AND HELP SOLVE PROBLEMS. OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES HAVE ENOUGH CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW, AND WE NEED TO DO ALL WE CAN TO HELP [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> THANK YOU, ROB. NEXT, KATY, YOU ARE STARTING? OH, OKAY. WE LIKED YOUR STYLE. NO, WE WILL MOVE TO DEBORA . DEBORA , HOW WILL YOU WORK WITH SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO IMPROVE STUDENT SAFETY IN AREAS AROUND OUR SCHOOLS, AND WILL YOU COMMIT TO WORKING WITH SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO ENSURE THEY ARE PART OF ONE SEATTLE AND INTEGRAL TO AN EQUITABLE CITY? YOU WANT ME TO READ THAT AGAIN? >> NO, YOU GOT A GOOD ONE IN THERE BUT IT IS A TWO PART, BUT ABSOLUTELY, SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL WORKS ALSO WITH THE ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD, WHETHER IT WAS ON HOUSING, BUSING, FOOD, THE SUGAR TAX, MAKING SURE THAT THE TEXT MANY WENT BACK, SO WE COULD FEED KIDS. SO, THE OTHER ISSUE ON THE SAFETY ISSUE IS THAT WHEN WE ARE DOING THE BUDGET AND LOOKING AT SDOT AND LOOKING AT WHERE WE WANTED TO PUT SIDEWALKS, WE MADE IT A PRIORITY -- JUST HIGH TRANSIT FOOT TRAFFIC WHERE YOU NEED SIDEWALKS, BUT ALSO SCHOOLS. AND YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON THE ISSUES THAT IT WORKS, AND I WANT TO HOPE LEE, IF I GET THIS JOB, IS TO GO BACK BECAUSE WE WERE THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE THAT WERE TARRED WITH THE SEATTLE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO BE TO MEMORIAL STADIUM. THAT STARTED IN 2016. TO GET THAT UP AND GOING. ONE, WE WERE DOING CLIMATE PLEDGE ARENA. WE SHOULD HAVE DONE IT AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE YOU DON'T MOVE DIRT TWICE WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS KIND OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND POURING CONCRETE [ INAUDIBLE ]. WE WERE BRINGING THE NHL, AND IT WAS SHARING WITH SEATTLE CENTER AT THAT TIME. SO, WE WERE ALWAYS WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THAT IS NEVER ENDED. >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . JIM? >> THE CITY COUNCIL ITSELF, COMMUNICATION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT A COUPLE THINGS. IN MY PAST EXPERIENCES, WE HAVE PRIVATIZED [ INAUDIBLE ] SIDEWALKS, AND THAT IS WHERE IT HAS BEEN A MAJOR COMPONENT WHERE WE DECIDED TO BUILD. BUT I AM ALSO A PROPONENT OF SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS. POLICEMEN THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN THE SCHOOLS. WHERE I WORKED BEFORE, WE HAD NOT HAD THEM HAD [ INAUDIBLE ] CAPABILITY, AND THAT HAS TAKEN SOME OF THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVITY TO HAVING A POLICE OFFICER IN THE SCHOOL. BUT IT HAS REALLY PAID HUGE DIVIDENDS IN MANY SITUATIONS AND I SUPPORT THAT, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD SOLUTION TO HELP >> THANK YOU, JIM. NILU? >> SO, I SERVE ON THE BOARD FOR RACIAL EQUITY AND WORK WITH THE URBAN LEAGUE TO BE IN ROOSEVELT AND GARFIELD HIGH SCHOOLS, AND WHAT I THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT IS THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH STUDENTS, BRINGING THEM INTO THE CONVERSATION, CENTER THEIR NEEDS. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ASKING FOR MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, THEY'RE ASKING FOR THINGS THAT BRING MORE LONGING. AND HAVING BEEN A PARENT AT JOHN ROGERS ELEMENTARY ON THE OTHER SCHOOL, [ INAUDIBLE ]. I LIVE ON SAND POINT WAY, WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS. [ INAUDIBLE ] I UNDERSTAND IT IS A LONG-TERM INVESTMENT TAKES TIME, BUT AT LEAST WE SHOULD HAVE SAFE ROUTES FOR KIDS TO BE WALKING TO SCHOOL. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT IS A CITY COUNCILMEMBER AND WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS, I KNOW ONE OF THEM IS HERE TONIGHT, SORRY -- [ LAUGHTER ] BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK HAVING REALLY STRONG AND IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP FOR ME -- THE KIDS ARE OUR FUTURE, AND FUTURE GENERATIONS, AND MAKING SURE THEY ARE CENTERED IN OUR DECISIONS AND OUR NEEDS IS GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY INVALUABLE AT MAKING DECISIONS, BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY NEED MORE THAN WE DO. >> THANK YOU, NILU. JULIE? >> THE SO, OF COURSE AS AN EDUCATOR, I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT SCHOOL SAFETY, STUDENT SAFETY. AND I SERVED ON EQUITY COMMITTEE FOR OVER FIVE YEARS IN SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. OH, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT STUDENT SAFETY, WE THINK ABOUT HOLISTIC APPROACH. SO, STARTING FROM GETTING TO THE SCHOOL BUS STOP, AND YES, SIDEWALKS, BUT ALSO WITH DENSITY. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME -- WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THE SCHOOL BUS STOP IS RIGHT ON THE EDGE, AND THE BUS HAS TO STOP. THE PUBLIC BUS 28 HAS TO STOP. SO, I THINK IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF OVERSIGHT THERE. SO, I WANT TO THINK ABOUT US AS THINKING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT ALSO THINKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY. KIDS HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO SCHOOLS ON THEIR OWN OR WITH, YOU KNOW, THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, AND A LOT OF FAMILIES, A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING NO, THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THEIR KIDS BIKING OR WALKING. >> THANK YOU, JULIE. ROB? >> I THINK THE WORD PARTNERSHIP IS SO IMPORTANT HERE BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME INCREDIBLE PARTNERSHIPS IN OUR CITY, AND SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THEM. SEEING OUR OWN SCHOOL WHERE FENCING HAS BEEN IMPROVED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, THERE ARE CAMERAS ON EVERY ONE OF THE DOORS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ENTERING THE SCHOOL ARE THE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO BE ENTERING THE SCHOOL. I THINK THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST LEVEL. THE OTHER ONE, CROSSING GUARDS I LOVE SEEING CROSSING GUARDS THE SCHOOL, I THINK THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. CROSSWALKS, WE TALKED ABOUT SPEED ZONES EARLIER, ABSOLUTELY. THESE WALKING AREAS AROUND THE, WE WANT OUR KIDS TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY. AND CARS GOING A BIT LOWER IS GOING TO HELP EVERYBODY OUT. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE TIME TO SEE THE KIDS AND BE SAFE. WITHIN THE SCHOOLS, THE HEADLINES ARE FRIGHTENING WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS, AND SO MUCH OF THAT COMES DOWN TO MENTAL HEALTH, HAVING THE SUPPORT FOR STUDENTS, HAVING STUDENTS KNOW WHO TO TURN TO, WHO TO SPEAK UP ABOUT, HOW TO REPORT SOMETHING. WHEN PEOPLE REPORT SOMETHING , THEY'RE LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR CLASSMATES. WHEN PEOPLE ARE CONNECTED, WE CAN AVOID REALLY DANGEROUS SITUATIONS FOR OUR KIDS. >> THANK YOU, ROB. KATY? >> ON, SO, I LOVE THIS QUESTION BECAUSE CHILD FRIENDLY CITIES ARE LIKE A PASSION OF MINE. SO, SIDEWALKS ARE BASELINE, THAT IS THE MOST BASIC THING YOU CAN DO TO MAKE IT MORE PHYSICALLY SAFE FOR OUR CHILDREN IN THIS CITY, A CHILD FROM THE CITIES ARE ABOUT PROMOTING NOT JUST THEIR PHYSICAL SAFETY, BUT THE COGNITIVE AND SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT. IT SETS HIM UP TO BE MORE [ INAUDIBLE ]. THOSE EARLY YEARS ARE SUPERCRITICAL. AND SO, WHAT THIS MEANS IS WE NEED TO CREATE SYSTEMS, NEED TO CREATE A CITY THAT OUR KIDS CAN ACTUALLY WALK AROUND BY THEMSELVES AND THEY CAN BIKE AROUND BY THEMSELVES BUT INDEPENDENT MOBILITY IS SO CRITICAL TO DEVELOPING CONFIDENCE, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE STREETS TO DO IT AND WE DON'T HAVE THE PLACES FOR KIDS TO GO. WHY DON'T KIDS GO OUTSIDE ANYMORE? IT IS BASICALLY A HIGHWAY BUT THAT, WE BUILT THAT. THIS IS CONTRIBUTING TO A LOT OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, THAT WE CAN'T HAVE OUR KIDS JUST FREE RANGE ANYMORE, WE CAN'T DO THAT. SO, I THINK INFRASTRUCTURE IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES. REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN BUILD ALL THE SIDEWALKS ALL AT ONCE, BUT FOCUSING WHERE WE CAN DO THAT AND REALLY TAKING A MORE HOLISTIC, BROADER LOOK AT WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A MORE CHILD FRIENDLY CITY? >> THANK YOU, KATY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO A COUPLE FLIP THE PADDLES, I KNOW YOU GUYS DON'T LIKE IT, BUT WE WANT TO KNOW YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT BETTER, OKAY? WE KNOW YOU DON'T WORK FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND [ INAUDIBLE ], BUT -- TWO QUESTIONS. DO YOU SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS IN THE SCHOOLS, YES OR NO? DO YOU SUPPORT CIVICS BEING TAUGHT IN THE SCHOOL, YES OR NO? OKAY, EASY. ALL RIGHT, I'M SORRY I WASN'T ABLE TO GET TO THE LAST FOUR. BUT I CAN GET TO AT LEAST ONE OF THEM, AND I THINK WE ARE GOING TO START WITH JIM AGAIN, IS THAT CORRECT? JIM, LET'S HAVE YOU START WITH THE LAST QUESTION, WHICH IS -- DURING THE PANDEMIC, MANY STUDENTS AND YOUNG ADULTS DID NOT HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR INTERNSHIPS AND JOBS. HOW CAN WE MAKE SPACE FOR THEM? >> MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. DURING THE PANDEMIC, MANY STUDENTS AND YOUNG ADULTS DO NOT HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR INTERNSHIPS AND JOBS. HOW CAN WE MAKE SPACE FOR THEM? I THINK IT'S JUST LIKE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES CAN WE GIVE THE YOUTH THAT MAYBE WERE AFFECTED BY COVID AND DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO GET THEIR FIRST JOBS AND INTERNSHIPS? >> I THINK THE CITY CAN DO OUTREACH TO BUSINESSES AND REALLY WORKED TO ESTABLISH INTERNSHIPS AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAVE DONE, FRANKLY, AS A CITY MANAGER BEFORE, WHERE YOU ENCOURAGE PARTNERSHIPS WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS . IN MY ORGANIZATIONS, I HAVE A NONPROFIT, WE WORK TO GIVE INTERNSHIPS AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS. SO, I THINK IT IS A MATTER OF PARTNERING WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES ALSO FOR CITIES TO PROVIDE JOBS, FOR CITIES TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE AS WELL, AND I WOULD SUPPORT BOTH OF THOSE AVENUES. >> THANK YOU, JIM. NILU? >> SO, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PLACE WHERE OUR LABOR UNIONS COULD HELP US. THEY HAVE GREAT TRAINING INTERNSHIPS. AND APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS. ALSO, THE URBAN [ INAUDIBLE ] HAS A TRAINING PROGRAM THAT I HAVE HELPED WORK WITH, AND THE CITY CAN ALSO HELP REVIVE JOBS. THERE IS ALSO A ROLE FOR VOLUNTEERING HERE, YOU COULD HAVE PAID VOLUNTEERS THAT COULD DO A LOT OF WORK IN OUR CITY AND GIVE KIDS THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY NEED TO HELP THEM DEVELOP IN A VARIETY OF SKILLS THAT WERE LOST DURING THE PANDEMIC. AND ALSO, HELPING ADDRESS ANXIETY , THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT HAS COME OUT OF THE PANDEMIC. BUT GENERALLY, I THINK TURNING TO THE YOUTH AND ASKING THEM WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THEY WOULD LIKE NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION, TOO. >> THANK YOU, NILU. IT JULIE? >> SO, I THINK OUR YOUTH HAS SO MUCH TALENT AND SKILL SETS THAT WE CAN ONLY IMAGINE TO GET, YOU KNOW? ESPECIALLY IN TECHNOLOGY. AND DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH A LOT OF NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS TO PIVOT INTO EVEN ZOOM MEETINGS, AND THE YOUTH WERE ABLE TO GET IT. AND I THINK BY WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH -- ACROSS GENERATIONS, HIGHLIGHTING AND UTILIZING THE SKILL SETS THAT ARE USED IN THAT OUR YOUTH ARE ABLE TO COME WITH, I THINK WE CAN CREATE JOBS THAT WE ARE NOT EVEN IMAGINING YET IT SO, I THINK WE WANT TO BE PROACTIVE IN PARTNERSHIPS TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM. AND WE KNOW THAT IF WE HAVE A LOT MORE VIBRANT SMALL BUSINESSES, THEN YES, KIDS CAN WALK TO THE ICE CREAM SHOP AND YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO CREATE SMALL JOBS. IN TERMS OF INTERNSHIPS, I DO WANT US TO THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR RESUME BUILDING, INTERVIEW SKILLS, MENTOR IN? ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED, ESPECIALLY FOR IMMIGRANT CHILDREN. I THINK YOU, JULIE. ROB? >> I REALLY LIKED HOW THIS QUESTION WAS RAISED. I THINK THE OTHER PLACE YOU SEE THIS IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM -- IS IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, WHERE THE KIDS, DEPENDING ON THEIR AGE DURING THE PANDEMIC, THEIR WHOLE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN CHANGED BY THAT YEAR, TWO YEARS OF SOCIAL ISOLATION FOR SOME OF THEM, BEFORE THEY WERE BACK IN THE CLASSROOM. AND THE OTHER THING I THINK A LOT OF US HAVE SEEN IN OUR COMMUNITIES IS, OH, WE USED TO DO THAT BEFORE THE PANDEMIC. THAT WENT AWAY WHEN THE PANDEMIC HAPPENED. THAT WENT AWAY. I THINK IF IT IS SOMETHING WE ARE NOT SEEING THE INTERNSHIPS ON THOSE OPPORTUNITIES LIKE WE WERE BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO GET BACK TO THAT LEVEL. IT OBVIOUSLY HAS TO BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH PRIVATE BUSINESSES. I THINK THE NAME OF IT IS A MARITIME HIGH SCHOOL, I THINK, I MET SOME FOLKS WHO WORKED IN THAT IN THE TACOMA AREA. AND I WAS DOING A CPR CLASS, THAT SOMEBODY FROM DOWN THERE, TALK ABOUT A BRILLIANT IDEA, TALK ABOUT SOMETHING WHERE YOU TARGET EDUCATION TO EXACTLY WHERE THE JOB NEEDS ARE, AND THAT CAN BE A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE TO MAKE THE FUNDING HAPPEN, AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS CREATE BETTER OUTCOMES FOR OUR KIDS AND HELP THEM ALIGN THEIR INTERESTS WITH THEIR FUTURE JOBS. >> THANK YOU, ROB. KATY? >> THANK YOU, SO THIS IS ALONG THE LINES OF A CHILD FRIENDLY CITY BUT I THINK PART OF THIS IS REALLY ABOUT BUILDING THE NARRATIVE THAT IT ACTUALLY DOES TAKE A COMMUNITY FOR US TO RAISE OUR KIDS. ALONG WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY THE IDEA PARTNERSHIPS WITH BUSINESSES, WITH NONPROFITS, I THINK THOSE ARE PRETTY EASY ONCE TO NAME. SUPPORTING THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE ALREADY WORKING. SUPPORTED, CONTINUING TO FUND THOSE. AND I DO REALLY LOVE THE IDEA OF THINKING ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES POTENTIALLY WITH OUR MARITIME AND INDUSTRIAL SECTOR AND WITH THE COURT. AS WE ARE LOOKING TO SORT OF THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE NEW, INNOVATIVE INDUSTRIES WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING AND REALLY PAIRING WITH OUR PARTNERS THERE TO THINK ABOUT HOW CAN WE GROW THESE LIVING WAGE JOBS WERE POTENTIALLY KIDS DON'T NEED TO GO TO COLLEGE, BUT THEY CAN'T HAVE THAT FINANCIAL SECURITY THROUGHOUT THEIR LIFE, AND ALSO BENEFIT SEATTLE? AND OUR MARITIME INDUSTRIAL SECTOR. >> THANK YOU, KATY. DEBORA ? >> SO THE QUESTION DOESN'T JUST SPAN DURING THE PANDEMIC, ALSO NOW. I WORKED WITH THE MAYOR FOR THE PROMISE PROGRAM FOR SEATTLE STUDENTS, CAN HAVE THEIR FIRST FEW YEARS OF COLLEGE FREE AT ANY SEATTLE COLLEGE BUT WE DID THAT AND I WAS VERY PROUD OF IT. I MADE SURE THAT INGRAM AND NATHAN HALE WERE IN THE QUEUE ON THAT, FOCUSING ON CHILDREN OF COLOR, LOW-INCOME CHILDREN, AND ALSO FAMILIES WHERE IT WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME SOMEONE FROM THE FAMILY HAS WENT TO COLLEGE AND HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL. I WAS VERY BLESSED TO WORK WITH DR. BROWN WHO USED TO BE THE PRESIDENT HERE. WE HAD AN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM WHERE WE WORKED ON TRADES, TEAMSTERS, AND UNIONS RIGHT OUT HERE IN THE PARKING LOT. AND WITH THE [ INAUDIBLE ] TRIBE, WE HAD IRONWORKERS, ACTUALLY HAVE AN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM, BECAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS , I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE CREDIT FOR IT, BUT IA IS NOT COMING FOR IRONWORKERS OR PLUMBERS. THEY'RE GOING TO COME -- THEY CAN'T REPLACE YOU PEOPLE WHO BUILD THINGS, AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE LOST IN THIS WORLD. AND SO, GETTING BACK TO THE PANDEMIC, WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH AMAZON TO MAKE SURE THAT LAPTOPS WERE DELIVERED, I BELIEVE, TO JANE ADDAMS AND JOHN ROGERS. >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . WELL, WE HAVE COME TO THE END OF THE FORUM. WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE ONE MINUTE CLOSINGS FROM EACH OF THE CANDIDATES. LET'S GO AHEAD AND START AT THE OPPOSITE END WITH TRANSIT AND AT WORK OUR WAY BACKWARDS. >> DEBORA ? >> I AM AN ELDER. OH, I AM NOT, SOMEONE ELSE HERE IS OLDER THAN ME. LET ME HURRY UP AND SAY THIS BUT I SAID THIS IN THE BEGINNING, WHY ARE YOU RUNNING AGAIN, DEBORA ? EIGHT YEARS, YOU COULDN'T WAIT TO GET OUT OF THERE, THAT IS TRUE. ALSO SAID THE REASON WHY, IT'S A FINITE AMOUNT OF TIME, I'M NOT THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND I AM NOT ON SOUND TRANSIT, AND THAT TOOK UP SO MUCH TIME. I WANT YOU TO GO LOOK AT MY COVER LETTER AND WHAT I AM CALLING MY INDIGENOUS D COLONIST STORYTELLING RESUME, CV, AND LOOK AT WHAT I BUILT IN D5 AND ACROSS THE CITY IN BRICK AND MORTAR. LAKE CITY COMMUNITY CENTER, CLIMATE PLEDGE, THE WATERFRONT, ONE 30th LIGHT RAIL, [ INAUDIBLE ], WE HAD A SECOND AT THE McDERMITT HOUSE. WE ALSO HAD OUR SECOND FOOD BANK AT BITTER LAKE. ALL THE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE DID WHEN WE WORKED WITH THORNTON CREEK, SIMON PROPERTIES, NHL, SEATTLE STORM, AND OF COURSE MY PRIDE THAT I WORKED SO HARD ON, THE JOHN LEWIS BRIDGE, STARTED OUT AS A PEDESTRIAN BIKE BRIDGE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, DEBORA . KATY? >> ALL RIGHT, TO ALL OF YOU WHO CAME HERE TONIGHT, THANK YOU, IT IS WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU ENGAGED YOUR COMMUNITY. I AM HERE TO WORK FOR THE CONSTITUENTS OF D5, THE RESIDENTS, THE UNHOUSED, AND THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN LIVE HERE YET BUT I WANT TO BE PART OF GROWING PLACES THAT PEOPLE LOVE AND TO BUILD COMMUNITY THROUGH COMMUNITY BUILDING. I HAVE BEEN IN PUBLIC SERVICE FOR ALMOST MY ENTIRE CAREER I WORKED WITH PEOPLE IN COMMUNITIES TO CONNECT THEM CITY PROCESSES, SO THEY CAN HELP [ INAUDIBLE ] THEIR FUTURES. WHERE I THRIVE AND WHERE I AM REALLY EXCITED TO WORK IS WITH COMMUNITY FINDING COMMON GROUND AND TO FIND SOLUTIONS BUFFER TODAY AND TOMORROW. I'M EXCITED TO WORK WITH D5 AND USE MY EXPERIENCE AS A LAND-USE PLANNER AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, AND AS A PARENT, AND THINK ABOUT WHERE AND HOW WE CAN ADD MORE HOUSING, AS WE CAN GROW OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SUPPORT OUR RESIDENTS FROM ALL STAGES OF THEIR LIFE, FROM CHILDHOOD TO OLD AGE, SO PEOPLE CAN STAY PLACE IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY LOVE. >> THANK YOU, KATY. ROB? >> I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ROLE BECAUSE OF HOW YOU CAN THINK BIG AND REIMAGINE HOW THIS CITY IS GOING TO LOOK LONG-TERM. TWO IDEAS I DIDN'T GET TO WHERE THEY ARE, ONE OF THEM IS IT IS VERY EXCITING TO THINK ABOUT [ INAUDIBLE ] I-5, AND A TON OF NEW DEVELOPMENT WHETHER THAT IS PARTS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ET CETERA BUT I THINK THAT IS A TYPE OF THING THAT LOOKING AHEAD DECADES IN THE FUTURE COULD BE AMAZING AND TRANSFORMATIVE FOR THE CITY PRETTY WANT MORE LAND, THAT'S WHERE YOU FIND IT. THE OTHER THING IS JUST LOOKING AT [ INAUDIBLE ], IT'S TWO HOURS TO GET SOMEWHERE BY PUBLIC TRANSIT AND 30 MINUTES TO GET THERE BY CAR, WHAT YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO? WE REALLY WANT A CITY THAT IS CONNECTED AND WORKS FOR EVERYBODY, THAT IS THE KIND OF THING WE HAVE TO TARGET 45 MINUTES OR LESS, ANYWHERE IN SEATTLE, I THINK THAT IS A GOOD RULE. SEATTLE FACES A NUMBER OF HEART PROBLEMS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOMELESSNESS, AND PUBLIC TRANSIT FUNDING BUT THIS IS WAY MORE THAN 16 MONTHS WORTH OF CHALLENGES. D5 NEED SOMEONE IS GOING TO PUT IN THE TIME, ASKED THE QUESTIONS, AND CONNECT WITH PEOPLE. I ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO BE OPINIONATED IN THIS PROCESS AND TO SOMEONE WHO CAN LEARN IN THE ROLE, SERVE THE PEOPLE OF D5, AND POTENTIALLY RUN AGAIN IN 2026. >> THANK YOU, ROB. JULIE? >> I LIVED IN DISTRICT 5 FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS AS AN EDUCATOR, SMALL BUSINESS PARTNER, AND COMMUNITY LEADER. I LOVE OUR COMMUNITY, AND KNOW THIS DISTRICT DEEPLY, IT'S PROMISE, IT'S DIVERSITY, AND ITS CHALLENGES. I HAVE HIGH HOPES AND EXPECTATIONS FOR OUR DISTRICT. YOU HEARD ME TALK ABOUT SAFETY, SIDEWALKS, SMALL BUSINESSES, AND TRANSPORTATION. THESE AREN'T ABSTRACT ISSUES TO ME, THEIR PERSONAL, I HAVE WALKED THESE STREETS, VISITED SMALL BUSINESSES, LISTENED TO COUNTLESS NEIGHBORS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS. WHEN APPOINTED, I WILL CONTINUE TO LEAD THE SAME WAY, WITH ACCOUNTABILITY, WITH TRANSPARENCY, BEING REALISTIC AND HONEST, WITH HEART, BY TRULY LISTENING. I WILL WORK WITH OUR NORTH PRECINCT TO MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SAFER, SUPPORT TRANSIT SOLUTIONS, AND ADVOCATE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AND IMMIGRANT VOICES THAT BUILT THIS COMMUNITY. I AM NOT HERE TO MAKE EASY PROMISES, BUT TO DO THE HARD, STEADY WORK OF EARNING YOUR TRUST AND BEING ACCESSIBLE, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE. >> THANK YOU, JULIE. NILU? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS SPACE, THANK YOU FOR MODERATING AND KEEPING TIME, I THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR SHOWING UP, FOR CARING, FOR BEING PART OF THIS CONVERSATION, AND FOR BELIEVING IN THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY. DEMOCRACY ONLY WORKS WHEN WE PARTICIPATE, WHEN WE ARE WILLING TO SIT AND DISAGREE WITH EACH OTHER, AND I TRULY HOPE EVERYONE WILL ENGAGE IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT WE NEED FOR THE CITY. I ALSO HOPE YOU WILL GO. AUGUST 5th IS OUR PRIMARY, WE HAVE AN ELECTION COMING UP, YOUR VOTE MATTERS, YOUR VOICE MATTERS, AND HELPS SHAPE THE CITY WE WANT TO LIVE AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR EVERYBODY THAT HAS APPLIED, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO FOR OUR CITY, AND HOWEVER THIS APPOINTMENT TURNS OUT, I KNOW THAT I WILL KEEP WRITING FOR A CITY WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAFE, HOUSED, HEARD, AND TRULY SEEN. I WANT EVERYONE TO THINK ABOUT POLICIES THAT ADDRESS OUR HOUSING CRISIS WITH ANTI-DISPLACEMENT MEASURES IN MIND, I DON'T ENJOY SEE MY NEIGHBORS HAVING TO MOVE AWAY FROM YOUNG TO OLD. AND THINK ABOUT AFFORDABLE CHILDCARE, IT'S REALLY HARD. AND OUR YOUTH, AND ALSO OUR CLIMATE EMERGENCY. EVERYBODY, PLEASE FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY BUT AS AN IRANIAN AMERICAN, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, VERY VALUABLE. CURRENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS NEED TO. THANK YOU. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> JIM BOUREY, BRING IT HOME. >> THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING, IT'S REALLY VERY INSPIRING TO SEE YOU HERE TONIGHT. THANKS TO EVERYBODY AS WELL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR APPLYING, A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE, I HAVE ENJOYED MEETING THEM. I HAVE APPLIED FOR MANY JOBS AS A CITY MANAGER. IT HAS REALLY TO ME NOT ABOUT THE COMPETITION, IT HAS REALLY BEEN ABOUT THE BEST FIT, THE BEST FIT FOR THE POSITION. TO ME, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A LOT OF REASONS FOR HAVING THE BEST FIT. MY EXPERIENCE AS A MANAGER HAS PUT ME IN A POSITION TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THAT THE CITY HAS, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT POINTS. I WANT TO DO THIS JOB FOR YOU, BUT I ALSO WANT TO DO THIS FOR MY DAUGHTER AND MY TWO DAUGHTERS IN THE CITY. I WANT THIS TO BE A CITY THEY CAN GROW AND PROSPER IN PREDEFINED SELECTED, I PROMISE I WILL LISTEN TO YOU, WILL BE RESPONSIVE, AND I WILL WORK AS HARD AS POSSIBLE TO SUPPORT THE DISTRICT AND THE CITY, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. >> THANK YOU, JIM. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ATTENDING. IN CLOSING, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I HAVE NO HORSE IN THIS RACE. ALTHOUGH I WAS 30 YEARS IN DISTRICT 5, I AM CURRENTLY IN WEST SEATTLE, BUT I WILL SAY, I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE CANDIDATES HERE TODAY, AND AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE A HORSE IN THE RACE, BUT I WOULD SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS THAT SHOWED UP TODAY. I WOULD HOPE THAT THE REST OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS WILL VIEW THIS AND THAT THEY WILL SERIOUSLY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE QUALITY OF CANDIDATES, THE CHARACTER, AND THERE IS ACTUALLY A SIGN OUT IN THE AUDIENCE THERE THAT SAYS D5 DESERVES A VOICE, NOT A CARETAKER. PLEASE, CITY COUNCIL, ELECT SOMEBODY OR APPOINT SOMEBODY THAT YOU FEEL WILL ADEQUATELY REPRESENT THIS DISTRICT. THANK YOU FOR COMING, HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. >> [ APPLAUSE ] >> [ EVENT CONCLUDED ]