Phoenix City Council Formal Meeting - September 7, 2022
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us good afternoon welcome to the formal meeting of the phoenix city council we'll begin with an invocation from fire chaplain nick petrucci thank you for this honor let's pray heavenly father thank you for this afternoon you have blessed us with so we can gather with mayor gallego and the city council for today's agenda we invite you here today to be with our council as they tackle the issues and pursue ways to move forward move this great city forward i pray for each member president here today please give them wisdom and discernment please protect our police and fire departments as they respond to the needs of our citizens in christ for help please also be with our dispatchers and alarming personnel protect them mentally lord father i pray for every leader and employee of our city give them courage and the ability to do their best may we never forget who we serve and represent let us stand on your word god blessed is the nation as god is the lord may the words written in our currency and god we trust in the words we recite in our pledge of allegiance one nation under god be brought to remembrance and be put into action i praise you god for all you have provided for each and every one of us and the opportunities they've given each of us each and every one of us i love the charge you give us in your word too much is given much is expected may we all come together individually and collectively to do our part for our family our great city and for our country god please bless each of us this meeting our city and our country amen thank you chaplain councilman dececio will you lead us in the pledge of allegiance for the united states of america to the republic for which it stands one nation under god individual with liberty and justice for all thank you for joining us today we'll now call the meeting to order will the clerk please call the roll councilwoman i'm sorry here councilman decision here council member garcia here councilwoman guardado here councilwoman o'brien here councilwoman stark here councilman waring here vice mayor pastor here mayor gallego here mario barajas is with us to provide interpretation mario would you introduce yourself yes mayor thank you hello my name is mario and together with my colleague elsi duarte we will be serving as today's spanish interpreters for the meeting i'll now take a moment to introduce ourselves to our spanish-speaking audience and review some guidelines thank you mayor thank you mario will the city clerk please read the 24 hour paragraph the titles of the following ordinance and resolution numbers on the agenda were available to the public at least 24 hours prior to this council meeting and therefore may be read by title or agenda item only ordinances number g 6964 and 7011 through 7028 s four 48964 nine nine zero and resolutions two two zero six one through two two zero six eight thank you i'll now turn to our city attorney to explain the role of public comment in council meetings thank you mayor members of the public may speak for up to two minutes to comment on agenda items to be discussed comments must be related to the agenda item and the action being considered by the council general comments that go beyond the scope of the agenda item must be made in the citizen comment session at the end of the agenda the city council and staff cannot discuss or comment on matters related to pending investigations claims or litigation the city code requires speakers to present their comments in a respectful and courteous manner profane language threats or personal attacks on members of the public council members or staff are not allowed a person who violates these rules will lose the opportunity to continue to speak thank you boards and commissions item one vice mayor do we have a motion motion to approve mayor and city council boards and commissions nomination as revised second we have a motion and a second any comments all those in favor please say aye any opposed nay passes unanimously vice mayor do we have a motion on liquor licenses motion to approve items 2 through 11. we have a motion in a second any comments all those in favor please say aye aye and any um oppose nay and steph do we have anyone here to be sworn in for boards and commissions wonderful we will officially swear and thank you to those who are serving our community in these important roles please repeat after me and please raise your right hand i state your name do solemnly swear that i will support the constitution of the united states and the constitution and the laws of the state of arizona that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same faith and defend them against all enemies foreign and domestic and that i will faithfully and impartially and impartially discharge the duties of the office of and then the name of the office of phoenix women's commission according to the best of my ability so help me god congratulations thank you for serving your community if you would like to go behind the council members would like to thank you in person [Applause] city clerk are we ready for ordinances resolutions new business planning and zoning yes mayor vice mayor do we have a motion motion to approve items 12-72 accept the following items 21 26 35 36 37 and 64 through 72 noting that items 31 through 33 are continued to to september 21st 2020 2. item 35 is as revised per the september 7th 2022 memo from the street transportation director item 48 is as corrected item 63 is continued to december 7 2022 and excluding these items for virtual public comment items 35 and 71 and can the clerk confirm if there are any other items that should be excluded for in-person public comment yes vice mayor also excluding item 38. thank you thank you vice mayor do we have a second second any comments roll call i'm sorry yes decision yes garcia yes yes o'brien yes stark yes waring yes pastor gallego yes passes 9-0 thank you next we go to item 21 auction indian community gaming grants do we have a motion i move item 21. second councilmember garcia do i'll turn to you thank you mayor just wanted to extend uh gratitude and thanks to the action indian community the city's relationship with the surrounding tribes is a relationship we should cherish and continue to strengthen especially wanted to highlight in this grant that there will be fifty thousand dollars going to native american connections who will be delivering homeless youth services for the transition age of youth from 18 to 24. this age range is currently being underserved and so really excited that this grant is coming through thank you thank you roll call i'm sorry yes to cco thank you mary just be really quick just another uh great example of a relationship that we have with our tribal communities in arizona they've proven to be just fantastic partners of ours and i vote yes thank you garcia yes yes o'brien yes stark yes waring yes pastor woohoo yes gallego yes passes 9-0 thank you next we go to item 26 gated alley program implementation do we have a motion i move item 26 second thank you and this uh we've had some council members show great leadership on this program uh i really appreciate their hard work very important to our community we have several council members to comment we'll start with councilwoman stark thank you mayor i remember when we first started this program as a pilot it arose from a situation where a man jumped over the gate in the alley and exposed himself to two small girls it was really a tragic and sad event but the neighborhood insisted that we needed to do something and so we started a pilot project for gated alleys in district 3 and 5. and now it has grown city-wide and so i'm very happy to see that we are going to make this a permanent program and i really want to thank all the staff and there's a lot of staff that was involved in this for making this a reality i know that my constituents are very excited about this program thank you mayor thank you we'll go next to councilwoman and sorry followed by council member garcia thank you mayor i too wanted to firstly thank councilwoman guardado and councilman stark on their leadership on this issue i can confidently say that district 7 residents and our entire city will benefit from the expanded and now permanent gated ali program and we're not just finding dollars for more gated alleys but we're also investing in neighborhood support to make sure this process is as easy as possible and i know there's been a lot of thought and a lot of input gone into the equity piece and the thoughtfulness for this program so i just wanted to ask a couple of questions i don't know if spencer's available to highlight some of these pieces that i think are really commendable the new permanent program thanks spencer thank you so i know in cases where it may be difficult to locate property owners or to obtain signatures what kind of support will be available to interested residents for this program mayor councilwoman absolutely that that is a huge part of the permanent ongoing program is providing the additional staff support and thankfully with the budget that was approved for this year we are recruiting right now a project manager who will help oversee the process and work with the community as well as provide support from our neighborhood specialists we're also getting volunteers to help out including youth volunteers who will help and are trained on how to evaluate those signatures make sure they're appropriate get signatures and especially in our low and moderate income communities be able to do that in partnership with the neighborhood so that they're not on their own the other thing that we're providing is interpretation services to make sure that it's accessible for all and you kind of touched on this but if interested residents along an ali segment don't have like a formal neighborhood association what can what can be done sure we always encourage folks to create a neighborhood association if they don't have one and if this is a worthwhile endeavor i think that a lot of community members will come together and form one however we do recognize that that is sometimes a barrier and so sometimes when we have situations where there is crime graffiti illegal dumping a lot of the bad things that may be happening in alleys we don't want that one artificial barrier to prevent them from being able to participate so that is another big piece of the equity component that we will work with them we will try to encourage them strongly to get to create a neighborhood association but if they can't we will not let that be a barrier wonderful and you touched on this slightly as well but you talked about the focus on low and moderate income neighborhoods can you talk a little bit more about what specific amounts of funding or what percentage of the funding is dedicated for those communities in particular absolutely uh we've set aside 100 000 which is approximately well it's 20 percent of the total funding available to make sure that if uh if their low and moderate income communities are not able to access the program that funding will be set aside for them great thank you i i just wanted you to be able to highlight that i think those new pieces are really really phenomenal for this program i know lengthy city processes can be extremely difficult for families and the interpreter piece especially and the dedicated staff support for this is going to be great so thank you so much to you and your team alan and i know a lot of neighbors and community members have been involved in shaping this permanent program so congratulations thank you thank you we'll go next to council member garcia followed by councilman woman o'brien followed by councilwoman cordado followed by the vice mayor thank you mayor um just following up on on that question so 20 goes to low and mod income how does the other 80 get determined or so for the other 80 percent uh we are doing essentially a first come first serve so i know there's a lot of communities that reached out to us throughout the pilot program asking to be part of this and so we know that some of them are already ready they've started gathering signatures so as we evaluate we'll make sure that we are trying to be as equitable as possible in making sure that those who are submitting first get that opportunity to get their alleys gated one of the situations we've ran into south of the human services campus is you know the requirements in order for you to be able to have an alley gate basically everything has to be fenced in and so we have some areas that the community wants that we selected but then there's empty lots um within the hello a little prank tomas can you turn it off um so there's there's segments where there's empty lots um could there potentially be either support um for the folks that own those lots or getting those folks the fence in the back um so is there any other funding that we can tap into to make some of these alleyways uh eligible sure so it's particularly tricky working with private property owners on improvements to their private property that is not something that we've been able to overcome given gift clause issues with the state constitution so at this point there's no city funding that we've been able to provide however we have we have had good luck working with communities on fundraising looking to business partners or some of the council districts as well your teams have also done a wonderful effort working with the community and helping to raise some funding to fence in some of those areas where otherwise we would not be able to gate so the only way we would be able to get some of these alleyways done is if they themselves fundraise to fill in those gaps is that correct at this point yes um i think with some of these issues with with this and other things i do think we should although we've had this conversation a couple years ago um look at other other options um not just getting alleys i think abandoning certain alleys or just looking for different options for different communities would be important and i think back to the the associate just the clarity on their interpretation and and what's going to be provided if a general person from the public not a part of association are they eligible for the services will the interpretation be open to anyone that's wanting to do this absolutely we'll work with any neighborhood on on trying to do improvements whether they're gated alleys or otherwise anytime that we can help pull people together to to take on a challenge we're there thank you councilwoman o'brien followed by councilman guardado thank you so much mayor i just wanted to say that i am very excited that this program is becoming permanent but i want to especially thank councilwoman stark and councilwoman guardado for your efforts and in starting this pilot and the city staff for all the hard work and getting here also thank you to all the constituents across the city who called in during budget time and advocated for this to become a permanent program the program is a shining example of what can be done when constituents advocate and implore their council members to spend their tax dollars wisely and for purposes that improve their quality of life my own constituents have been requesting gates through the pilot program and we were able to secure an entire neighborhood along the canal i already have community leaders as spencer has referred to some of them on his list probably that have already collected signatures and want to know how they can get some of those gates in this permanent program so i'm excited to support the program and look forward to its continued success thank you spencer and to the rest of your staff and and councilwoman councilwoman guardado thank you mayor yes i think um i've also lost count of how many neighbors have brought this issue um to our attention when it comes to the allies they have been a lot of these athletes as i've talked about in the past have been abandoned to illegal thumping vandalism and disrepair the item before us creates a process for neighbors to get organized and work with our council offices and city staff to address this problem i am proud of the work my council team and i have put into helping hundreds of residents throughout district five gate their alleys the process has empowered numerous residents and helped us work together to begin addressing other neighborhood issues i want to give a special shout out to emmanuel from my office he's done a lot of great work on this just this morning he turned in eight more applications along 27th avenue and has definitely activated a lot of the neighbors around that area with all the other issues that we're also working on on 27th avenue and i also want to underscore again how much this program relies on resident involvement just today my office finalized the submission of 18 separate alley gates for neighbors who got in organized for these neighbors this program is about more than putting a gate in their alley it's about taking control of their neighborhoods so their kids can safely walk to school and play in their backyards these residents who have now formed the monteveglio avenue neighborhood association now have the support of the city and ways they have never had in the past i want to personally thank alan stevenson and the staff of planning and development and neighborhood services department for their hard work on this item i am very happy to be voting yes on this item but i just needed just a little bit of clarification i know i've asked spencer and you know lnu and i just talked about this um not that long ago i think our biggest issue um at least in maryvale that were that we're trying negate our biggest problem is not so much getting the signatures it's getting the right person to sign like we have tons of segments where we were it's a lot of renters i would say 80 90 of them are renters and the owners of these properties live out of the state and i wanted to see if you can just give just to put on the record what are the different things that we are planning on doing to make sure that we can still get those alleys and put in and what type of effort are we going to be putting into making sure that we have proved that we that we did the outreach that we try to get a hold of these owners and what are we going to do to be able to get those alleys so mayor uh councilman guardado uh excellent question i think the the first thing i i want to hit on is that the success of the pilot program has really been due to a significant amount of work that the council office and the neighborhoods have done as as many of you have alluded to and it was a it was a program that really was set up with without any staff resources directly devoted to that and so the community picked up a lot of things and your council offices uh did and one of the things that that you've identified as that challenge is getting those property owner signatures to qualify for that and so we have talked to the law department about it who's doing some research and looking into what can be done to overcome that if we can't uh you know get all of the the property owner signatures but one of the key things that they they talked to us about was making sure that we had a good record of what is the outreach that that we have done as staff so that we can make sure that in the future if there is concerns by a property owner about it that we were able to document the outreach that was done before there was ever a gate installed and that's where switching from the pilot program that was more council office neighborhood driven to one that has a dedicated staff person and is a regular city program spencer's group will be working on those hard-to-reach areas we'll still be working with neighborhood groups and your offices but when we get to some of those hard-to-reach property owners that's where spencer's team will will step in and then i'll let him talk about it some of the things they're going to do to try and make sure that we do everything we can to get the property owners to sign up thanks alan absolutely so not only will we have a trained workforce between our neighborhood specialists and our volunteers who will be working on this effort but we'll also tap into some of the tools we have on the code enforcement side obviously in order to do effective code enforcement we're also making sure that we're reaching out and getting a hold of owners giving them proper notice for those types of things we can use some of those same tools to engage with them and make sure that we are contacting them for to give them the option of the gated alleys great so just just with that i think it'd be good for you guys to put together like a checklist in terms of these are all this is the checklist that we need to be able to hit in order to be able to cover our bases before we get those alleys and i think it's something good for us as council members to have as we are going through that process with a lot of these residents that are just renters but desperately want to be able to get those alleys it'd be nice to be able to have a list like that that we can go through with them and that we also understand what are the different steps that we need to following up with all of you in terms you know to be able to get to that end point of being able to get that alley but with that thank you guys so much for all of your hard work and everything that you guys have done and excited to be able to support this item thank you thank you mayor thank you councilwoman council member councilman waring uh thanks mayor uh so we don't l alan spencer if we have new zoning cases we don't really allow new alleys to be created correct that's a blanket statement but i think in the aggregate it's basically true correct mayor councilman uh waring you are correct in the aggregate now there are new developments that are in alley in areas where they're adjacent to an alley and so they would likely keep that alley uh going but there are times when they will seek to abandon an alley and expand the development area which then gets reviewed by public works and other departments and has to go through a public hearing process to abandon alley and then develop it privately but that is possible so hopefully there'll be a finite number of alleys that need to be gated at some point my point is you know my area further north they represent we don't we're not really creating new alleys for the most part in that um in that area so we don't have as many alleys as maybe the other neighborhoods but i think it's a good good uh project program and it's a good use of taxpayer funds my question is i think i brought it up to i can't remember which one of you it was maybe both so it'll probably seem familiar we do have alleys in some of the older neighborhoods but they're not alleys in the traditional there's a wall on each side there's a wall and then maybe a roll of oleanders or something like that my neighborhood has a bunch of them or it's kind of a wash and then there's like the effect is like an alley is there a way to so there's nothing if you put a gate there's nothing to anchor the second side of the gate to is there a way to address that i can't remember exactly how it went the last time i get what you're saying in your answer i think it was to carlos about you know we can't improve people's properties but there might be people who are like i basically got an alley behind my house i'd like to take advantage of this program how do we overcome this seemingly surmountable obstacle of how do we get something else to attach that not not build a whole wall but at least make there be a gate so you'd have to climb through bushes or something if you're really dedicated to getting back in there is there some way to address that because i when i go around a door knock i see that fairly frequently but it's not the same scenario that you might see in district 3 where you know subdivision was built subdivision was built and there's like a a tunnel effect mayor councilman waring due to the the gift clause uh you know issues there there's not a good straightforward answer as it relates to that because the city can't use public monies to improve someone's private property and build them a fence where there was no fence requirement when it was built uh and then they just have oleanders over time uh and you know that type of of more informal kind of visual barrier but it's not really you know a physical barrier and so we we don't have a a good way to address that at this point other than what uh mr self just discussed in terms of working with volunteers and working with council offices to raise some money so that those gates could be installed privately uh through donations and other things but not spending the the public's money on individual private property improvements and please don't misunderstand me mayor allen you know i'm not suggesting anyone we should create an alley a real alley by by putting in a wall i was just wondering how like is there a gate that comes with a pole you could you could stick into the ground so at least there's some barrier to entry and we can talk about that more that's but but it's not a it's not an inconsiderable issue you know taxpayers in my district are expecting to to be included in this project as well and we just have you know we don't have nearly as many alleys except of the kind of scenario where i'm talking about for the most part on another note does anybody track like how many police calls there are to alleys because i would hope there would also be some cost savings involved in this with fewer access to ally should be fewer unfortunate incidences occurring in alleys that would require a police response and you may not have that data i understand but i'd be interested in it if you do have it at some point mayor and councilman waring absolutely in fact uh we we had a a very strategic goal with our pilot program where we intended to gate the alleys and then measure the effects over time do some before and after uh because of the wide support and and uh from the community and and the council offices we've moved to the permanent program but we do have a multi-department work group including fire police public works neighborhood services streets planning and development and we do intend to do studies to uh to measure that effect uh we don't have that data at this point all right uh can i ask one more thing mayor again i don't think this will be particular to my district but i could give you specific examples in my district uh because one just came up and we've said no in the past so we do have uh some tunnels under roads in different spots or uh like drainage ditches and frankly some people um you know stay down there and so forth obviously that's that's got a whole lot of ramifications health-wise for them for the community for for cleanliness and so forth and and people have asked for for like gates or greats uh however you want to look at it and i think the city said no and i don't know really like what's the major difference between the alley the problems we'd be seeing in alleys and the problems we'd be seeing in the scenarios i just sketched out we're treating those differently so if we could go back and look at that again i mean if the problems are the same it just seems like again that could be included in part of this program i'd certainly like to see that and i imagine there's probably plenty of that in other districts as well but it's certainly been an issue in district two mayor councilman waring we are happy to talk to floodplain management group and streets and set up a meeting with you to talk about that in particular i think we would have to be looking at how you keep the the water flowing through those areas and that's going to be the biggest challenge but we can certainly talk to to you about what might be able to be done to address some of those resident concerns you know separately from this program thank you for that i certainly appreciate yeah i'm not suggesting a solid barrier where water is supposed to supposed to flow that wouldn't be a particularly good idea but you know something that it's you know the water can get through if there's water to be had there or if it's just a tunnel something to maybe prevent you know i see a lot of graffiti um one uh that i've seen you know that that could be considered an issue i don't know how you solve it because um i'm not even sure who's responsible for it but it's actually in district three over at stone creek golf course where you go under you know there's just been i've called in i know personally to you spencer a ton of graffiti under there you know i've seen people kind of loitering under there so i don't mean to be meddlesome but it's it's one i've seen there's also one under um uh it would be south of union hills at cave creek road there's also one at awash at about 41st street uh just north of thunderbird those are places where we've had incidences that are you know frustrating to residents and i do think that the goal of this program is the same goal as those residents and you know then they see we're paying taxes the gates are going elsewhere because we don't really have alleys you know could we reconfigure this a little bit to include our problems as well so mayor councilman waring you bring up a good point and we're happy to do some more research with streets department uh and then come talk to you about it and then we can go from there thanks thank you councilman and i think neighborhood services and and planning have come up with some good guides for neighborhoods about how to maintain storm infrastructure that could be helpful if we move forward with this as well we'll go to councilman decicio next thank you mayor and you know it's interesting listening to this debate and this one or this discussion how important that some people might think are small issues but these are big issues for neighbors and they're very impactful i mean sometimes we debate some big things we think that they are big but at the end of the day these are the things that impact the neighbors and the people in our community more than anything so for uh councilman stark and councilwoman guardado thank you for all the work that you did on this i mean and the mayor as well i mean if you didn't do that we would never be seeing this but just a couple points one there is definitely a fiscal and a financial savings to the city of phoenix we've been trying for years to get people as simple as this outside of the health and safety part of it get people to move their garbage cans to the front this is one way of doing that just because it saves us a lot more money damage and all that with the vehicles that we take in the alleys so there is definitely a health and safety and a financial reason why we want to do this and we want to encourage people to do it second point to council member guardado's point of these high rent areas these high rental areas and the difficulty of getting you know notification from them back couldn't we just change the policy instead of saying that you have to get a certain percentage of individuals in that area why couldn't we just say we would you know we have to get you know we have to base it off of uh let's say 50 or 60 or whatever it is of those that have responded back so that those individuals that have you know refused to respond their vote doesn't count no different than anything else we do if you don't vote in any election your vote doesn't matter your voice doesn't matter couldn't we just change that policy to those individuals that have taken the time to respond back because we make it very easy for them to respond back couldn't we do that just change a simple policy change uh mayor and councilman decisio those are the exact questions that we've posed to to the to our law department as well as an opt-out versus an opt-in you know percentage okay that accomplishes that but also maybe one of the questions and you may have already thought of this i mean that is considered city of phoenix property correct well couldn't we just gate it anyways if it's our property we have a legal right to get it correct mayor right-of-way the city holds in public trust for all of the public it's not it's not city land like city hall or other buildings that we own and so public right-of-way has a different legal analysis with it and that's why we've got to work with the law department about it because there are court cases that talk about if you a property owner loses access to something the city has to pay for that and so that's what in this case it's a gate that could be removed but there's expenses that would go in to doing that um you know and then have to be removed it wouldn't be a prudent use of taxpayer dollars to to put it and have to remove it so we're trying to work through those issues and the item as put forward now gives staff the flexibility to continue to work with the law department and then discuss with you guys how flexible we can be because we've heard from you that you want some of that flexibility but at the same time we know that we want to make sure that we're using the public's money that we're doing to build these gates in a wise manner and so we want to make sure that we get the best information from law on how we can be as flexible but not run afoul of creating an issue where a property owner can come in after the fact and say wait a minute i don't want this and i was never you know told about it and therefore it needs to be removed and so that's what we're working through well we can overcome the whole property owner part of that especially on these high rental areas that council member guardado has in her district which is just crazy in some areas i mean there's the majority are by far rentals in an area and that creates a problem on its own we can prove even through you know type a certified mail of it getting to the len to the owner of the property i mean there's many ways to do that and that's why i think i like the idea that you know that you guys have come up with is possibly do an opt-in on something like that the other point to council member garcia's point and you know it's going to sound odd but at the end of the day all neighborhoods are different so if you go into most of my neighborhoods they're generally pretty well off um and there are other areas that there is a significant cost to some of the people that they just can't afford it we saw that when it came down to discussion on um after school programs where we saw a 62 percent drop by just raising the cost 30 every two months to some of the families as the 62 drop just because they couldn't afford that so i would be open to working with any of the council members on some sort of objective standards we could create for those neighborhoods that cannot afford it to figure out a way to cover some of that in this i mean i think this is a big deal when it comes to closing off neighborhoods so if there's a way to create some type of standards that we can do a check-off list to those neighborhoods that cannot afford it or can't come up with whatever equity it might take for them to do that i'd be open to do and working with staff on that and working with the council that's all i've got here thank you councilman stark thank you um going back to how we figured the alleys and with the signatures i know mesa went through a process of closing all their alleys down so i think there probably is a way to your point and to your point that we can do something and maybe we should check with mesa on that i want to go back to the greats because councilman waring it is a problem and i don't think it's just isolated to your district in my district i believe probably other districts are feeling the issue as well and i did have a brief albeit a brief conversation with the street transportation director and told him my concern is now there is so much in the washes in the way of furniture and blankets that if we do have a major rain event i think the flow water is already being impeded so i really would like us to research greats i don't know if that takes a letter or if we can have all the council say yeah what a great idea but i do think it's becoming more problematic and we saw a little bit of that this summer with the reigns so just another project thank you what a great idea thank you vice mayor i think that's a directive deb and asked the staff to do it and we all are sitting here and agreeing so i think you guys understand what was asked transportation is not sitting here but i think you can deliver it what i like to say is i think we've had such a great thoughtful dialogue on this piece and one of the things that i had heard was it's first come first serve and i would really like to flip that script and what i mean by flip it is because our poverty rate is so high phoenix union's poverty rate is at 90 percent so that phoenix union represents the majority of our feeding inner city urban area so instead of a hundred thousand i would like you to think about how you flip the script and see how these some of these poverty neighborhoods are able to uh benefit or or be able to apply in a way the first come first serve happens because those neighborhoods are very well organized and so i think we really need to talk about an equity piece because 100 000 won't cover our areas uh for that it won't even go anywhere so um so that's my suggestion in filling the gap maybe we have to look at the dollars and uh how we allocate the gates and the cost of the gates maybe there needs to be some buffer uh in there of filling the gap now i don't know what the cost is because each area is different but to be able to think that way and look that way in order to help fill the gap the other dynamic is and then we've all had healthy dialogue over this was those neighborhoods that are not organized and those a neighborhoods that are not organized not to be penalized for them not being organized because normally it's renters and if you're a homeowner you usually um are living there understand the dynamic that's happening and and is engaged but a lot of the renters come and go and so in looking at that we have to figure out or create a mechanism where those areas do benefit from this program and we may not necessarily have a cheerleader in that area but we do have a responsibility for it the other piece is as councilman decision mentioned as i entered office the conversation had already had happened but there was still some lingering conversation was that public works had done a study and wanted to move trash to the front of the house and it was supposed to be more effective and efficient especially on our trucks what ended up happening is in that report it was released and people have the dialogue but our community was not ready for that conversation and in that conversation it got stopped it it didn't move forward and it didn't move forward because the community was not part of that conversation and part of that piece i think we're at a different point in time now to really start that conversation because it is uh about more efficiency and our trucks the wear and tear and our refurbished trucks that are falling apart need to be able to move in and out of communities right now especially in some of the narrow alleys and our drivers are the ones that are are feeling the effects of those areas the other thing is we have we have had a number of deaths within the alleys so i think that right there should also be a dialogue as to why we need to move the trucks to the front and then have the ability of those that want to shut their alleys can shut up but i think this is a very holistic dialogue in order to solve many different issues that we are facing and come up with very innovative solutions and be able then to stretch our dollar the way we need to stretch it in order to help the greater community one of the things that i'm hoping in all of this and this is where the arts department will come into play one of the things that i'm hoping is that the alleys get activated and the way they get activated is if they shut the alleys there's gated that they neighbors still have to maintain the alleys and that's going to be one of the other key things is educating them that they have to maintain their space no weeds no all this other stuff and everything and inspectors will go out and we'll hear it but we have to be very clear on that but if we could activate that space within that neighborhood and be able to do what coronado has done their allergies are open but to open up to close it and be able to build neighbors or more front doors but it's alley doors and people open up their gates they can put benches out there and be able then to create murals and create space for themselves and so i think as we move towards this conversation to the future that we are able to design that piece of community so appreciate all the work glad it's permanent i do have to say that i believe district 4 was probably the first district to gate alleys i would say that it was not legal and it was legal in the sense that they did go through the permitting and peace but at that time people didn't want that it's another space to also talk about connectivity how do we keep the neighborhoods connected how do we keep north south east and west together and connected and be able to move throughout our city so those are my comments thank you for your work thank you vice mayor thank you to alan councilman start councilwoman gordado and everyone who has worked on this program the city council and mayor's office have participatory budget funds where our residents can help direct a certain portion of the funds my neighborhood advisory council has helped advise me on the funds for the mayor's office and the gated alleys have been one of the popular choices and i think that is also another tool we have to address some of the financing that we've discussed here today it's been wonderful to talk to neighbors and hear them say it's reduced calls for service to the police department they've seen much less activity in the alleys and that it's been a great opportunity for them to work together with their neighbors so i look forward to voting in favor of this i'm sorry yes decision yes garcia yes yes stark yes waring yes pastor woohoo yeah diego yes that says nine zero all right next we go to the roadway safety action plan and i will welcome our deputy city manager mario paniagua as well as our street department director down this was originally going to be presented at a separate policy meeting we really appreciate everyone who has worked on this for a long time it is an issue of huge importance to the city of phoenix we want to have safe roadways that are welcoming for all however we expedited it today because we are eligible some for some very important federal funds and having a roadway safety action plan will make us even more competitive for that very important funding we've been working on this a long time and i think for my last five monthly meetings with our streets director we've been talking about this i appreciate all the work and community meetings that went into it and know that just because it's not a standalone council meeting does not mean it is not a huge importance to our city we appreciate the passion for saving lives and improving transportation and i will turn it over to mario to introduce a brief presentation thank you so much mayor members of the council tragically we continue to experience an inordinate amount of serious injuries and fatalities on our streets and roadways nearly every day we get reports of of these kinds of accidents that affect our residents so so badly and so uh we really appreciate the opportunity we appreciate the leadership of the mayor and council to direct us to put this plan together and bring forward a road safety action plan um that we'll present to you very briefly here today to my left is kenny knutson street transportation director who will give a very brief overview of the plan the item before you essentially includes three actions one is to adopt the road say road safety action plan another is to form a citizens advisory committee a vision zero vision zero citizens advisory committee eleven member committee that will continue to monitor the plan implementation as well as the allocation of 10 million dollars toward the implementation of the plan which is a combination of multiple fund sources one being the general fund we would add to the current allocation of 1.8 million another 1.2 million to get that to three million dollars from the general fund two million dollars from the transportation 2050 fund and three million dollars from the highway user revenue fund and so all those total 10 million dollars annually annually that would go to the road safety action plan so with that i'm going to turn it over to keaney knutson to present some slides to you on the plan thank you mario and thank you mayor members of the council we're happy to be here today to talk about this item and as mario mentioned uh this was a daunting task before us as a city um and to put together a plan that was going to drive us how do we get to zero deaths how do we achieve the vision zero resolution that was adopted by council in february uh that we do that with by putting together an action plan that is um first and foremost set up as looking at the data and input you know how do we get community input as part of this process how do we ensure that data is at the forefront of everything we do when it comes to identifying projects and investments to be able to uh drive our serious injuries and fatalities down to zero well as part of this when we're working through the plan with our consultant team and our in our city team is we use that data input to be able to first get uh a lay of the land of what the the serious injuries fatalities look like in the city of phoenix and after that after working through community input as well we've then developed what we have five focus areas and those are outlined in the road safety action plan that's an attachment to this item in the council and then within each of those five focus areas we have uh 15 objectives so 15 objectives total across those five focus areas and then as we get drive in deeper on how do we how we're going to implement uh measures to be able to drive down those serious injuries fatalities we have 41 strategies that we have outlined within the road safety action plan that are measures that the city can take and put forth energy to be able to help achieve the goal of getting division zero so the goals that was laid out that as part of this action plan are three-fold the first and it's time bound to be able to show where we at with pro where are we at with progress and implementing this plan assuming it gets approved here today well the first milestone there is a 25 reduction in serious injuries and fatalities on our roadways by 2027. that gives us a near-term goal to be able to focus our efforts on for the next five years the next milestone there is a 2035 goal to be able to drive those serious injuries fatalities based on the baseline number to uh to 65 down from what it was before and then finally our 2050 focus is to get to zero fatalities on our roadways by 2050. that's going to take a lot of effort a lot of resources and a lot of investment of time and energy not just in our department but across the city working with our community and with our elected officials and as mario outlined what's before you as a potential action item here is uh the funding and i will hearken back to what we heard a lot in the budget hearing process back in the spring we had a lot of members of the community who spoke out the budget hearing to be able to provide substantial funding to the road safety action plan we were like we were saying as staff perspectives just give us some time when we get to this level we're going to propose funding levels that will be able to get us there and what we're proposing today is 10 million dollars a year and annual funding to be able to make a real difference in our community uh and as mario mentioned that's five million dollars of gas tax or herf revenues uh three million dollars from the general fund and it's a represents a 1.2 million dollar increase from what current funding levels are and then also two million dollars from our transportation 2050 streets dedicated funding sources and i would note that these are all um this 10 million dollars is something we are going to immediately look for ways within the iija and the federal infrastructure law to be able to leverage our local investment to make do more and be able to take advantage of seeking those federal dollars as the mayor outlined earlier and then this is nothing but without having an organized and a comprehensive effort across our city to be able to focus in on making this a reality over the next and between now and 2050 and there's three aspects to this and making sure we have a uh the the transparency to this but also the accountability and the first one is we have an rsap road safety action plan implementation team that is a cross-functional interdepartmental group of city staff working daily on the implementation of this secondary is having an executive task force so executive members within the city to be able to report back to to be able to talk to and gain guidance in the implementation of this plan and then finally i think most importantly is having a vision zero community advisory committee and this 11 member body would be made up of members selected by each of the council members and three selected by the mayor and we think this is we've modeled and looked at this three-tiered approach across our peer cities who have approached division zero but across the nation as well in how people have addressed road safety action plans and so we think this is a good comprehensive approach complete approach to be able to get to where we need to working with the community with leadership through this process and so that concludes my presentation i'll be more than happy and i'm sure mario as well to be able to answer any questions they might have and if i can just add a couple more points to the presentation one is that uh can you mention that the 41 strategies contained in the road safety action plan there were there were actually 42 in the uh packet that was presented to you one of the strategies was pulled out the vice mayor mentioned a memo that was issued earlier today that that i that i issued with the street from the street transportation director that removed one of the items related to automated enforcement red light running cameras which will no longer be part of the the strategies included in the plan the other thing i wanted to mention is what keeney touched on briefly which is the the funding for the bipartisan infrastructure law uh which this funding will very heavily leverage seek to leverage so that there's another item on today's agenda that gives us the authorization to apply for the safe streets for all grant which is part of that federal infrastructure bill and so this this plan adoption is necessary for us to submit that application to the to the department of transportation which which allows us to seek in this first round in the first year of the program um 37.5 million dollars for the total funding so we're very excited about that opportunity to bring that funding in to address road safety for our community so with that i would turn it back to you mayor for any questions you may that you would account for wonderful thank you it's a great 10 million dollar commitment today and then the potential to continue to invest including in partnership with the federal government the community advisory committee is also very important to me and into the successful implementation and two questions for you does this so we're going to prove a plan today which is important for us to be able to be competitive for federal grants and to move forward with these life-saving investments but can the plan continue to evolve mayor members of council of course this is not a static plan we would look to also update the plan periodically to make sure it's relevant to current strategies and technologies and ways to be able to improve safety in our roadways and to respond to what we're seeing in as we use performance metrics to see how effective our investments are so there's definitely opportunity working with the vision zero task force the group there the community elected officials and and just working through to be able to update this periodically so there is opportunity to be able to do that wonderful we will continue to be data driven and try to figure out what are the most efficient and valuable ways to invest our money and then you are familiar with the university of arizona wildcats we got outreach from the applied health policy institute there today that had some ideas about how we might invest to help pedestrians to create more shade bicyclists and and was wondering if you would have a chance to meet with them mayor first thing bear down [Music] i did set up for that yeah so no we haven't met with them yet but i think we're definitely open to having a conversation working with them i think their ideas are are good ideas that will either um incorp be incorporated or could be incorporated within the existing strategies outlined in the plan but also we have other efforts that may be outside not related to our road safety action plan we're working right now on active transportation plan separate from this effort and some of those requests and those concerns are there could be addressed or will be addressed through that process as well so we're definitely opened up meeting with them and talking with them and they have some great ideas and i think we'd like to be able to pursue that conversation further wonderful and we've already gotten some support from the federal government that will help us with better active transportation and a better experience for pedestrians and cyclists so good momentum this year it'll be an important year for traffic safety in phoenix we do have members of the public here to speak but i will turn to my colleagues for any comments before we go to the public go to the public all right we will start in person cindy if you want to go first followed by haley i'm sorry not to give you more notice good afternoon mayor gallego members of city council my name is cindy gone for the record senior director of phoenix community alliance and i speak on behalf of our members and our board of directors and definitely we are in favor of vision zero the road action safety plan we have been since we learned about it our multimodal connectivity committee is very much committed to the principles and what will come of this it's very important to note that the streets of phoenix and we're all aware of this are some of the the least safe and the deadliest in the country and that's not a list that we want to be on the top of 40 of pedestrian collisions happen in broad daylight here it's imperative that vision zero the roadway action safety plan is approved for phoenix to qualify for the safe streets for all grants and leverage those federal funds that are available as well as local dollars super important for us we need to make our streets safe for pedestrians and bicyclists throughout phoenix and our streets need to be designed now and in the future talk about evolving the plan so that they're safe and comfortable whether individuals are walking or biking or scooting or rolling or driving on them safe for all users we respectfully request that you vote yes on the vision zero road action safety plan and we thank you for your time and for your consideration thank you haley is next and then we will go to uh online comments with ryan followed by jay thank you marence and council members as you know i've been very involved with bicycle infrastructure for a long time in phoenix and i was so excited about mayor stan's ad hoc committee to redesign the whole bicycle master plan which i was a part of in 2014 and i'd like to be involved with this plan more since coven meetings stopped happening and i just stopped coming but i'm excited to get more involved with this whole plan because i'd like to help design it i ride on these streets every day i'm a lizard my my my skin is is like leather because i ride in this heat every day and i love it and it's a part of my lifestyle and that's exactly what it is is that a lot more people are turning to this type of lifestyle and we need to have the city infrastructure to support us so um i'd like to see new bicycle lanes coming on all new overlay projects no matter what the street is it needs to include a bicycle lane on both sides of the road in either direction i'm very proud of the city for improving 3rd avenue and 5th avenue that sonoran bikeway is is coming along very nicely but i'd also like to see all the plans that we came up with almost 10 years ago get put into play i wonder where the gap is between the funding and the engineering and the construction of these plans that we came up with a long time ago so i'd like to be more involved with meetings from in the future in the near future and um so i'd like to find out who to speak with kenny um i guess you and maybe cindy um i'd like to be i just really want to help help with this so and i live i'm from the westwood neighborhood so i'd like to get in touch with lisa huggins hubbard and find out if we can get our meetings back because we haven't had meetings since covet so um i just thank you for for passing this keep going with it thank you thank you and thank you for your more than decade of work in this area we'll go next to ryan followed by jay thank you uh mayor and members of council for the record ryan boyd at 1069 west taylor street with the urban phoenix project also today uh annie eldon from phoenix spokespeople asked me to help share her uh group's words and we are both uh happily in support of the vision zero road safety action plan uh we were happy that after uh some meetings with the streets department uh particularly at the direction of the vice mayor we ended up getting a product that is very detailed um provides a lot of great uh solutions from engineering best practices and it's something that we think has the bones that we can work with and try to get through um at the same time this is an interesting environment because i've also got to notice as of recently to bring kieran goff's uh kind of testimony to bear because she unfortunately was involved in a collision this very day which kind of points to the need as to why we need this uh project and really to get going on all of those improvements in infrastructure um one of the things is as much as we do support the action plan there's still a sense of anxiety among the different groups that have been involved in road safety and bicycle and pedestrian advocacy in phoenix that uh we could end up actually just falling into enforcement and education one-off campaigns which all five e's play play a role in road safety but at the end of the day engineering and evaluation and those kind of big concrete protections will be there 24 7 whether or not somebody remembered the lesson in their driver's education or there was a cop there to uh enforce the law or other mechanisms of enforcing the law so we are very uh adamant about asking for the engineering portion of this to be a prioritized and we look forward to the community um community committee advisory committee to really take that leading role and be empowered to guide the city to those holistic solutions thank you for your time happy to answer any questions thank you jay will be next followed by nicole thank you uh jay bieber i'm a transportation safety researcher and a member of ite uh this is not a criticism just a caution with regards to u.s limits too for sending speed limits in phoenix traffic engineers recognize that drivers often unconsciously choose their speed based on what feels safe and comfortable considering how the road is built not the number on the speed limit side one wide smooth straight roads with multiple lanes encourage higher operational speeds while narrow tree line neighborhood streets incurs lower operational speeds to measure this effect engineers measure driver speeds and then calculate the speed at which 85 percent of the drivers don't exceed this is the safest and most equitable way to set speed limits because it reflects the natural speed that most people drive on the roadway and doesn't criminalize the vast majority of drivers otherwise safe drivers the problem with us limits ii is that it adds extraneous factors into speed limit setting possibly creating a mismatch between the natural speeds that the built environment encourages people to drive at and the speed limit sort of like trying to force a square peg into a round hole this makes roadways less safe as it can cause greater speed variation between vehicles which causes many more accidents unrealistic speed limits give roadway users a false sense of security which can lead to tragic outcomes mismatched speed limits subject many more drivers to police enforcement in effect the government builds a road that encourages drivers to feel comfortable driving at one speed then places a lower number on the sign and then asks the police to ticket the community for driving at the speed the road is built for this is especially problematic in already marginalized communities we can ill afford to exacerbate the existing problems by subjecting these communities to increase police enforcement making the vast majority of roadway users into scotland makes the job of the police more difficult as it is harder to identify those that are truly causing danger on the roadway with excessive speeds us limit to might provide a target speed for the roadway but putting the number on the sign won't actually cause people to drive at those speeds the only thing that works is for engineers to change the nature of the roadways with self-enforcing at those speeds meaning that the built environment encourages motorists to naturally feel comfortable driving at the target speed the city may wish to consider more research into u.s limits too before adopting its method for setting speed limits in phoenix thank you for the added few seconds thank you our final speaker will be nicole hi this is nicole rodriguez um i'm a proud president of district four and i wanted to share my comments on it i'm actually neutral and probably most thought i'd be supportive of this and the reason being is that this vision zero plan is comparatively weak to other cities with bold plans the plan needs to pursue more solutions that are proven effective at reducing if not eliminating traffic violence and fatalities and such solutions do not need a 10-month public comment period to be implemented solutions that save lives are also they also equate to affordable access to jobs and destinations as well as reduce auto dependency a strong vision zero plan has goals that include timelines along with proven solutions which is it is lacking in and we need safe streets now and we need leadership that can deliver that and i wanted to comment too on the public survey process overall it is disingenuous when streets ask us over and over at how much how much do we value human life and safety over the convenience and speed of the automobile users this is disgusting yet it continues to be the perception of many city leaders however we don't ask for public comments on roadway designs that are not safe such as road widening projects on unethical and wasteful mill and overlay projects on additional lanes added to intersections so there's already inequity here and how we're reviewing this this whole process of adding in a vision zero planned roadway safety action plan any bike lanes also i mean let's go back to van buren for instance this type of approach needs to stop and we do need that leadership that can deliver and make this a more equitable and affordable access for everyone which always equates to safety thank you thank you do we have a motion i move wait i lost it item 35 sorry i'll second a motion from our vice mayor and a second from our transportation chairwoman both of whom have been working on this project and now we will go to council comments councilman stark thank you mayor no questions just a couple comments from me today very very excited to support this plan thank you so much mario and keaney for all of the work that you've done on this with phoenix ranking third nationwide for traffic fatalities there's no question this plan is absolutely crucial and i'm very encouraged that there is actual funding attached to it the 10 million dollars i think remembering vividly during our budget hearings hearing what i thought was very catchy from folks who were advocating for this that we should be spending around five dollars per citizen to be able to save lives on our roads and for our bicyclists and pedestrians and the fact that we're going a little bit above and beyond that with the 10 million today is huge so thank you so much for putting this forward if you also look at the list of high injury network intersections and segments many of them occur in estrella and maryvale in our city i know i have heard over and over again from residents in maryville and australia and my district sharing fears from constituents around aggressive speeding dangerous intersections almost daily crashes and lack of safe crossing intersections for pedestrians so my hope is that we can really prioritize actions that will have the largest impact in reducing these injuries and fatalities and increasing safety and ease for pedestrians and bikers and i'm very happy that we had some advocates here for that today we also heard from quite a few residents and related to the suggestions of the mayor reference that we received from the u of a and other groups i agree that i think we should see hot crossings and shade prioritized in this plan especially since both of these both have funding um and i know keaney you and i were able to speak before this and your willingness to speak with these groups and engage with them around this is very much appreciated i also very much appreciate that there are very specific actionable metrics and due dates for the strategies in this plan including installing 20 mid-block improvements per year reducing pedestrian related crashes that are fatal by 10 per year and improving shade coverage at 60 transit stops per year all of these are incredible i look forward to seeing these metrics met very exciting that we're also applying for the safer streets for all grant and i know that the inflation reduction act and the bipartisan infrastructure bill have a lot of funding available to us so i'm excited about that and finally i just really want to commend our streets department councilwoman stark i know you've worked on this extensively as well as so many of the advocacy groups who we work hand-in-hand with like the urban phoenix project phoenix spokespeople and u of a's applied health policy institute for advocating and working to make this plan as strong as possible as was previously mentioned i know this will be you know a living document we'll continue to improve it like many of our plans which i think is fantastic and the community advisory piece is going to be a huge value add to track implementation but let's also remember that the work and advocacy do not end when this plan passes i hope anyone listening to this will remember that you can always call in and tell us what you need and what intersections or issues related to this need to be addressed in your neighborhood just this past year i had a case in my district in the south phoenix community calling for intersection improvements at 7th avenue and southern and they got what they advocated for because they organized extensively around it so just a reminder to folks to please continue to call us and tell us what you need thank you again for your hard work thank you councilwoman stark thank you mayor as i've said before it seems like every day we get a message from our police liaison commander osborne tragically about a fatality often involving pedestrians i think the adoption of this plan is a great step we need to make our roads safer for all pedestrian bikers bicyclists and motorists i'm really excited about looking at this plan and getting creative as our last speaker talked about we need to look at narrow roads we need to look at my favorite scrambles we need to look at shaded lanes we need to look at more hawks so hopefully this plan will enable us to do that because of the adoption it does lay the foundation for additional funding from our infrastructure bill so i want to thank staff especially you keaney i know i've been to your ear a lot about this plan i know you think i want to be an engineer when i grow up but i still want to be a planner and i appreciate everything you did i appreciate you listening to me i appreciate your staff on this i will certainly be supporting this thank you mayor thank you thank you councilwoman for your passion and leadership on this issue councilmember garcia thank you mayor you know we've seen this plan for a while now it's been developed has a lot of community input glad we got it done to be able to apply for some of the federal funds so thank you staff for getting this done district 8 has 13 hi n intersections high impact intersections so definitely something we're we're excited about worried about and and glad we're moving forward on um can you explain what it means to have a listed project in the plan and what it means for implementation certainly mayor um councilmember garcia members of the council that list of projects is for our to be us to be able to start looking at how we utilize the 10 million dollars locally and also looking for those leveraging opportunities with federal funds or even regional funds that we might come across uh one thing that i know has been talked about some of the speakers before was focusing on evaluation and engineering and that later in this in this meeting the item number 38 the safe streets for all grant that we're pursuing thirty million dollars of federal funds seven and a half million dollars of local investment that is targeted on evaluation and engineering efforts and those are roadway segments and corridors um and intersections that are all within the hand the high injury network and so we don't we're since we've got the the date coming up here september 15th it'll we're working on finalizing that list and we'll be able to provide that out to the council offices but it does include those kind of intersections and we've used that list the projects we've identified in the road safety action plan to help then drive what projects get included in the grant so when we're doing the prioritization of those we're looking at the data looking at which locations we're able to prioritize based on the data that shows us where we want to make sure if we're going to invest a million dollars in a particular intersection or a roadway corridor it's going to have the greatest benefit to reduce or eliminate serious injuries fatalities at that location that's our focus because we don't we want to make sure when we have these performance metrics they're showing our investments are are worthwhile and so that's what it means to have those projects on there it's going to help us prioritize projects for implementation and that's what we're going to be using it for okay just comments on that i think it's important to have the diversity of projects i know i've heard asu has a great plan downtown to have a totally pedestrian and bike corridor so i think that and that was definitely an asu plug for you um that you know just really trying to go devils that's what i was waiting for um really just trying to be innovative i know when we were looking at at the different intersections not every solution is going to fit in each play place and so i think looking at different solutions for different situations i also want to make sure to ask you how to focus our efforts in the engineering evaluation and equity portions of the plan rather than just relying on enforcement i think the enforcement measures were listed as the the only projects that have high amount of additional staff what can we do to make sure that there is inadequate staffing for evaluation and engineering in the portions of the plan unfortunately i think enforcement a lot of time comes after and so i think it's really important for us to to focus on these other pieces so um how was that decision made and then what can we do to focus more on the engineering and evaluation piece uh mayor councilmember members of the council that you bring up a great point that the money that's been uh allocated the research has been allocated our first efforts with are going to be on evaluation and engineering uh probably with an education component as well when we start talking about some of the enforcement strategies that are within here i think a lot of those are going to require additional conversations with the council other city staff other departments to see what's achievable what's because there will likely be additional allocation of resources as you mentioned to do that so i think that's something we will working within the vision zero task force and as we look at opportunities to be able to you know increase our efforts across all our five e's of traffic safety i think that is one particularly that it will take a lot more coordination to work through the enforcement ones but i know that the evaluation engineering from from a street transportation department perspective is a lot easier for us that's because that's where we live um and doing those those things but i will just say you know any of those things that revolve on enforcement those are going to take a lot more coordination and work in conversation with the council okay and then last thing with the task force i know we have task force for a lot of different things um some more active some more into implementation how do you uh picture this task force being involved what kind of decisions or what kind of conversations or what are you going to be tapping them to do mayor councilman garcia members of council the the vision zero task force is is utilized in different ways across the country when different agencies how i envision right now is the first thing is from a transparency and accountability perspective as we look to implementation implement this plan we're going to be working with them on how we're implementing the projects we're implementing and then using the performance measure metrics to be able to see whether the investments we made had the intended benefit of reducing or eliminating the serious injuries fatalities at that location or what we were trying to address and that's the part we want that feedback that dialogue with the community because it can't just be a bunch of city staff working on this we have to be in concert with the community and i think that gives us that that ability to have that dialogue they can hold us accountable they can make recommendations and advice as we go through this and hey we need to focus on this strategy or we need to we think we ought to spend more resources in this area and that's a kind of a collaborative comprehensive effort that we're going to work across those three bodies of the division zero task force throughout this process and councilman garcia i would also add to that just that we see this citizens advisory committee is is also a an avenue for the council to get input from a group of experts that are involved in this each day that are that are part of the community and can give input to the council and give you advisement or recommendations on policy actions related to this plan thank you thank you councilman decisio thank you mayor and i thank everybody that worked on this i know it was difficult and you know like anything else it's a plan then the implementation takes the time to get it through right one of the points i'd like to bring up you know again you've heard me say this before it's that low-hanging fruit that we should be really going after right away one of the points if you look at certain parts of our city we seem to be getting more accidents in that area more pedestrian deaths more pedestrian injuries those types of things and i like the idea of your focus and i think council member yaz yanzari brought it up i was talking about to call her first name but i know being formal here right so the prioritization of some of these areas some of these areas are not organized but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't look at just those that are organized we should look at those areas that have had the highest impact the ones we could have the change the mid-block lighting council member guardado and i've talked about that relentlessly there's certain parts of phoenix that just aren't treated the same not because of the way it is you know now it's the way it was in the past they just didn't have the lighting in there those are the areas we need to really have an impact on the mid-block crossers i don't think we're ever going to stop individuals who want to cross the street in the middle of a mid-block but we can make it safer for them to do that it's inevitable that they're going to do that people are going to find the easiest path to do whatever it is that they need to do but if there's not enough lighting out there you know they're going to have some difficulty crossing that street they're just going to do that you're just not going to see them the other issue that we're going to be talking about in december is the yellow lights extending the yellow lights i consider that to be low-hanging fruit i know there's some concerns that it might slow down traffic quite a bit but i don't i think it's a safety issue it's a health and safety it's non-political for me it is clearly i am convinced that it works i mean other cities have adopted it and they've made it work i'd like to see us i can't wait for that report to come back in december to see where we're at on that even my kids who just started driving so it's a scary thought i want your kids kate when you're or mayor i should say when you see your kids driving it's just you know you're handing them a key and you're like oh my goodness you know but it happens you know they just have to be able to get in there and that shows that level of independence so even they've made remarked how fast some of the lights are and how quick you have to react to stop especially if you don't have a really good ability for time and distance and a lot of individuals don't i'm noticing that because i watch my kids and they just don't have the ability to visualize and see what time and distance does and how fast somebody is going so the yellow light allows them to make if there was an extended time it allows them to make those decisions a lot you know easier than make having to make quick decisions especially for those new drivers that are out there and even drivers that have been around for a long time seniors have a harder time to measuring time and distance so there's a lot of reasons why i like the yellow lights but i'm going to be voting for this mayor i don't like the name you've heard me say that before but the components of this i think long term are good for the city of phoenix thank you mayor thank you councilman a very important policy for the city vice mayor thank you i would like to thank all of the community that has been working on this for many years and have many plans that are have not been implemented and so i guess where i'm at is it's great that we're this this intent is really to apply for additional dollars and be able to help us get on a road map however there are plans that have already been built and how are those plans going to be incorporated with this conversation with this community advisory committee because i don't want to start spinning the wheel again mayor vice mayor pastor members of council i think as we look at i think right now we're looking at the road safety action plan as being a focus effort for the city and and when we're looking to implement projects out of there as we see any plans that may be in conflict or not closely coordinated with those we'll work through those individually as we see those develop if there's any specific plan you'd like us to focus in before that we can you know get back to you on that and look at it but right i don't know if anything else you want to say tomorrow i believe councilwoman williams i can't remember the committee i sat on but she had made a request by staff to get all the plans and incorporate all the plans because we had a bike plan a pedestrian plan a downtown plan a city plan and there was a directive and an effort to look at oh to stack those plans and see where the common piece was and then see where some of the outside and the outliers so where is that plan and how will you incorporate it or or use it with also vision zero vice mayor in terms of the the broader plan um i think that's something that's an effort that that's ongoing for the city of phoenix just as we continue to to adopt any new plan like this one we we want to make 100 sure that it's coordinated with the existing plans uh one example that that comes to mind is the active transportation plan that the streets department also puts in place and they're actually updating as we speak so there's as you would imagine there's going to be some overlap in the types of projects and the active transportation plan which is focused on adding infrastructure for bicycle lanes and those kinds of active transportation modes uh which you know can also support road safety and so we're going to make sure that those are coordinated but also distinct so that the measures within the active transportation plan aren't aren't going to be the same as those or and certainly not conflict with what's in the road safety plan um and so that's that's just something that's going to be an ongoing effort for for staff to make sure that that our plans do coordinate that they they are kind of synergistic and work together to accomplish our goals and i'm asking these questions for the public because they emailed me so i'm asking these questions uh for those i'm putting it on the record for the public because the public has been asking me i happened unfortunately to have district 4 is the center in the heart of the city and also has the greatest accidents strategies and mid-block pedestrian you name it i have it um and so i'm asking because they're the advocates that come to me and then sit on these on these plans that then don't get implemented and so i want to be very clear as we vote for this plan that some of those items are in a bigger aspect i guess is what i'm saying can be implemented and paid for so that's just that's just my comment my question is where did the 10 million come from so um bikini can can add to this but essentially it's as we said it's a combination of fund sources which helps us achieve uh that that leveraging of the dollars so the the five million dollars from the highway user revenue fund um a couple two million dollars from transportation 2050 and then the general fund piece of it the additional amount is 1.2 million the council already has allocated uh 1.8 million dollars each year and so this would be this is an addition to that and so the the street transportation department city manager's office and budget research department all work together to identify funding in these areas the the her fund for example on t2050 have seen some higher fund balances because of additional collections and so those are those are some opportunities for us to allocate those dollars to implementing this for these roadway safety measures so am i hearing from cost savings we got the 10 million cost savings and as well as additional revenue in those areas okay thank you the 5 million of herf i think we call it a herf or is it aher for i don't know what it's called we sometimes call it a her arizona highway user revenue yeah okay so that's what we call it internally right which is the five million of her money okay i'm just hoping that when we dedicate this money that money goes to the dedication and not to other projects that then we're short on or that we're adding i'm going to give you an example light rail when we go over cost that we start using other p other dollars that have been allocated or dedicated uh to a project then gets sucked into that because we need to finish the project so i just want to put caution to all that because there's an expectation by the community that this will happen keaney you mentioned the community advisor committee is going to keep you accountable how is this advisory group going to keep you accountable mayor vice mayor pastor and members of council because uh working with the community through this we'll be making presentations to them about our progress and implementing the road safety action plan and then they are in sense an advisory body and obviously being appointed by the council we would be responding to them and their concerns about how we're implementing it and any advice they may have so i look at it as being as important as a lot of other advisory bodies i know we work very closely with the citizens transportation commission who is also an advisory body on the expenditure of transportation 2050 funds i think this this is i would look at the this vision zero community advisor committee being similar similar to that in helping us uh guide our implementation okay and then i have one more question you said a conversation with council um vision zero has been a conversation within our community within our committee and have talked about it and i you know we discuss it in our our committee however we would discuss in our committee and then you know time goes by and then we have other things that we're doing i would like to see these type of what's placed in the packet when you come and visit us i would like to see that information ahead of time to then be able then to react what's going to be presented i don't want to be in the situation that i was in this morning and looking at certain pieces of this plan and then reacting to it so i would like to be briefed in it and not be briefed as to it was on the agenda i mentioned vision zero and that's what i did i like to actually have a dialogue in conversation regarding the plan so i can say i don't agree with this i disagree with this why is this in here is this part of what the standards are so then i can ask my 21 questions and not be in a place where i feel like staff hasn't prepped me for this bigger dialogue so i would appreciate that thank you councilman waring thank you so if you look at the map on uh page it's either 10 or 116 or it was 116 and page 10. it's got two different numbers on it i think you know what i mean about the map of the city it's pretty clear as you look at that map that highlights the most dangerous intersections the most dangerous segments that's you've got the map so it's pretty clear that districts one and districts two have the least by far except for maybe iowa tukey dangerous uh intersections and segments i think that's a fair statement i don't think people at home can see the map but i think that's a fair again have a concern not totally unlike the gated alley discussion earlier you know that resources are going to be primarily directed to other areas and i understand why you got some really dangerous intersections in the rest of the city but that doesn't mean all is happiness and sunshine on the roads in district two but and speak for district one but i'm sure it's the same there you're still seeing a lot of really extreme behavior um and so i certainly i think partially to laura's point i would certainly hope that you would come and say hey here's some ideas we have for district two you know the most dangerous intersections but here's what you do have that maybe wasn't highlighted in the map that's something i personally would like to see i think that's only fair i'm also not suggesting redirect resources from places where it's extremely dangerous to places where it's not so bad but this needs to be you know the needs of each area of the city are not necessarily the same so that is a specific request i have second to i know sal's given examples i certainly have too i've been doing nothing but driving this year i basically live out of my car um the crazy pedestrian behavior i've seen it is unbelievable uh people i mean if you're driving anywhere in phoenix if you just want some helpful life advice be looking for a pedestrian no matter how unlikely it might seem that they'll be there because there isn't almost a day go by where i don't see somebody out in the middle of a major street kind of just walking along it's just it's just a matter of course now i can't drive tatum without basically seeing it it seems like bell road same thing people out in the medians people just kind of walking along walking across i mean it's a minor miracle as far as i'm concerned that there aren't more fatalities than there actually are and i don't say that lightly it's just if you drive enough you're going to see really serious situations i i know what sal said is undoubtedly true you're not going to get that down to zero are there barriers or anything we can put up in trouble spots because the person who might just sort of amble across the street where there's only a curb might not do that if they had to drive like uh i'm envisioning where we have construction well right out outside our building here where you have sort of barriers saying hey don't cross here and so forth you know i don't know how expensive that stuff is i'm assuming at least somewhat expensive but there might be a real hesitation to hop across something like that particularly if you have you know groceries or something because i understand people don't want to walk to the light but it is it's just a terrible it's just a terrible thing that i see all the time and i'm just i'm always shocked things aren't worse than they actually are um the driving is no better plenty of blame to go around but the ultimate answer i think to all of this is get more motor officers out there enforcing the traffic laws and then also citing people where appropriate for engaging in extremely dangerous behavior i have occasion to drive across both indian school and thomas quite frequently i mean i'm the driver and i'm scared to death that i'm going to hit somebody because i see people just crossing against the lights i'm talking rush hour traffic um so i guess that's something i'd like to see explored i do have concerns you know there's lots of money of planning here but to like redo an intersection to try to make it more safe the sight lines and so forth keaney how much does something like that cost like even one intersection um mayor councilmember waring members of council typically you're looking at probably we budget around a million dollars for looking at an intersection rebuild because it's not just about the traffic signals and modernizing the traffic signals there's things that you mentioned removing visibility obstructions looking at lighting and different things that we might be able to do to make this intersection safer like removing negative offsets of the left turning movements and traffic but going back to your your previous uh question um councilman or your comment about the allocation of resources i would note that you know as we look at the high injury network that's a snapshot in time as we go through this is between now and 2050 is what we're going to be working on getting to this point and so our data analysis will continue to collect those and just because districts one and two may not have the highest you know intersections or roadway corridors and the the hen or the high energy network it doesn't mean that five years from now that isn't different as additional growth happens in different areas of the valley and that's the whole idea that the beauty of this process is it's a iterative process to be able to continue to look at data to see where our worst areas are to make sure we're investing our resources there and even if they are not on the the higher energy network which is the funding we're have focused here the 10 million dollars is really about reducing serious injuries and mentalities on a roadway it doesn't mean we don't have other programs within our department that are looking at be able to do roadway improvements or hawk and intersection improvements that aren't necessarily related to the spending of the road safety action plan monies so we do have resources still dedicated that you know may may not be directed towards the hint but able to address some of the concerns you have and thank you for that and it's a good point growth can change the dynamic what i remember of our discussion i actually think it was pre-coveted so it's been a while i didn't see that unless i missed it in in this packet but you had i think the top 100 worst mag rated intersection i think it was mag who did that and i don't think any of them were even as i recall there wasn't even anyone even close to district 2 that was a bad intersection but at a million dollars an intersection i think we have eleven hundred signalized intersections isn't that what you've told me in the past twelve hundred twelve hundred sorry twelve hundred i don't wanna i don't wanna small make your empire smaller can you apologize um uh you know you do the math we're a long way from having the money to redo intersections re-time all the lights um you know so that that's definitely a concern that you know they're going to be a lot done other parts of the city and then none done uh again in district two um where again you know you see all kinds of extreme driving behavior coupled with you know people out in the streets certainly very concerning so that's something that i i would hope that we can work on address you make the point about other um roadway improvements apart from this we get a lot of requests uh in my area for for stoplights and we don't the city doesn't unless a developer is pitching in and we've certainly worked with developers where there are new um homes going in or something you know hey you got to put in a stop light they're expensive they've gotten way more expensive as the cost of materials and hiring contractors and stuff to do it has gone up but certainly i really would like to revisit that because i think a lot of citizens have really meritorious claims of putting in either hawks or um i'm more partial to the actual stop light because we do have development so you have more people and you do have people driving faster because they know they're not going to get pulled over we've been going through this at um and again it just it would seem crazy if it wasn't the times we live in people driving through walls kenny you and i have had occasion to either go out or certainly much discuss people going through intersections and i'm not kidding people who are watching at home just driving into major walls there's only so much signage you can put up that's going to stop somebody from just driving into a condo complex multiple times actually where we've had to reconfigure roads to make i guess a simple turn even simpler so people don't just drive through big stone walls with that as a backdrop my expectations for driving behavior are low but anything we can do to give citizens some peace of mind with stop lights or um and i don't know that we really do those but but flashing like hey there's a there's a turn ahead another sort of uh i guess either pet peeve or bugaboo of mine on friday and i do compliment your your staff so we got a call from a phoenix fire captain about the intersection at pinnacle and tatum so uh i actually drove out there to see it myself it's not a corner where i would normally make the turn that that this fellow was making every day he's like it's just dangerous the sight lines the way it bends coming south on tatum for anybody who's been there there's a lot of weeds and you know state trust land and so forth boy was he right i mean you you couldn't see between the curve the people coming south can't see you when you're making your right turn and you can't see them because of the weeds so you immediately had a crew out there probably within a couple hours because they came i saw him when i was out there i really appreciate that very much because i'm surprised there hadn't been you know more accidents than they've already been but that not just like weeds but just generally plants and so forth it always sort of stuns me how much of that stuff and i don't know how much of it is ours and how much might be you know the gas station on the corner that wanted to plant some nice trees or something where you make it really hard to make a turn and i know we've called your office a lot of times to you know citizens have complained a choice have complained hey could you trim back these bushes and so forth but a real focus on that i think can definitely you know save some lives which is the goal of this program at a relatively inexpensive cost it's a lot cheaper to trim some bushes than it is to redo a whole intersection i'm not saying redo a whole intersection somewhere else in the city i'm just saying you can bang for the buck you might be able to solve a lot of problems by just the basic maintenance we also had i was out door knocking and a fella complained about bushes along 12th street uh going north from basically the 101 or the frontage road he was right i knew he was right because i had made that turn and all of a sudden there was a truck right on top of him like man i got to pay more attention and i realized there was a bush just completely destroyed your sight line but it wasn't that obvious and it's a straightaway so people are speeding that bush is in somebody's yard so i think there's there were three bushes that you guys found out there but but fast action on stuff like that can also make a big difference at a relatively low impact cost and i would definitely suggest some of these bushes and i know i've called some in and you guys have always responded really quickly just removing the things they're not pretty enough to justify you know the potential cost because if you drive enough it really makes it hard to i mean you're you're nervous making any kind of turn um and i could give you probably dozens of examples just from personal experience i'm just looking for ways that you can spread out your money or maybe use existing programs and then focus this on something else that might really help and uh i appreciate you hearing me out thank you um and one thing this does not include like red light cameras and stuff correct that was removed as disgusting no it does not uh and and that goes to the strategy that um mario mentioned was removed from the final action or the packet today um i would would also mention um councilman that the when you talk about the different strategy or different ways to be able to address an issue i think that's part of this comprehensive approach it doesn't necessarily mean you have to go to the most capital intensive type of improvement to address a serious injury fatality issue it might be a visibility issue with vegetation that it's just we need to take care of that it could be just as simple as that or it could be much more complex and that's the idea of being able to use the data behind there to see what's actually happening at the location and then figure out the what's the right counter measure to be able to address that make it safer and i just if you've got stretches mayor keaney if if you've got stretches where you know people are crossing i mean i know you can't do all of thomas and all of indian school or something with some kind of barriers but the reason barriers were invented the word barrier to try to stop people from from doing it i really think that might really help um to the extent it's possible it probably doesn't have to be anything elaborate it probably doesn't have to be anything heavy but it might be really effective so thank you i appreciate you indulging me mayor thank you councilman warren councilwoman guardado thank you mayor yeah i just also want to thank staff for all of their hard work on this plan i know we've been talking about this um for a minute now um but i also wanted to thank councilmember um d'cicio for for his support on this plan and always pushing to making sure that we're making decisions based on data um and that we are making the right decisions also when i thank kinney for all of your hard work as well on the on this plan and i'm hopeful that we will get to a good resolution and we'll get going on this plan and we'll figure out all the all the issues that we have um going on in the city i know d5 has the deadliest intersection and i like it when we're number one but not on this so definitely looking forward to what all the work that you guys are going to do on that and i will be voting yes on this wonderful thank you councilwoman we are on the roadway to improvement we're going to work hard to make sure this is a great city for pedestrians bicyclists people who travel by car i'm also hoping that with our timing we will have a very safe super bowl coming up as well so very exciting thanks all for your work roll call i'm sorry yes decision yes garcia yes yes o'brien yes stark yes waring yes a store yes gallego yes that says 9-0 by a unanimous vote we passed our roadway safety action plan great news thank you to our staff next is item 36 text amendments to phoenix city code chapter 5 egg well the city clerk please read the title hang on hang on hang on i i made a mistake i believe i have to read into motion as of the amended vice mayor you did that at the beginning so i think okay i just wanted to make sure appreciate you thank you all right now we'll put the city clerk to work item 36 is ordinance g7028 an ordinance amending chapter 5a industrial gas pipeline license sections 58-358-558-658-858-958-1258-1358-7 and 58-39 nicely done vice mayor do we have a motion i think so um i move item 36 second any comments roll call i'm sorry yes to cecio yes garcia yes guardado o'brien yes stark yes waring yes pastor another nine zero yes gallego yes passes nine zero we next move to item 37 and iga with mcdot to improve southern avenue from 51st avenue to 37th lane and i'll turn to councilman and sorry for a motion thank you i moved to approve item 37 second thanks i just wanted to pull this item it's related also as well to the conversation we just had about roadway safety um a few months ago i had a town hall in the estrella region of the district which is about 30 blocks west of this segment of road that we're talking about and quite a few residents brought up the dangerous and stressful environment that scalloped roads create for drivers and pedestrians alike for those who might not be familiar with the term just to clarify a scalloped road is one of road switches from greater to fewer lanes multiple times and where sidewalks may start and stop because ownership is belongs to different government entities so the city versus the county so i'm very supportive of this iga and i want to make sure that we're accelerating improvements like this through west phoenix and i don't want to make anyone come down for questions right now but just wanted to generally ask later beyond this meeting if we could see a list of scallop roads and a timeline for when we hope to make similar agreements to address them because i know this is definitely not the only stretch in the city of phoenix thank you thank you i'm very excited to see this move forward this is an area where people often provide comments to the city even if it's mcdot's project and i'm glad we're working together to address any additional comments roll call i'm sorry yes decision yes garcia yes yes o'brien yes stark yes waring yes pastor congrats yes diego yes passes 9-0 continuing with our safe streets theme for this council meeting item 38 safe streets grant application i like to move item 38 second we have two members of the public here to comment on this item we'll switch it up and go moira and then cindy unless all right cindy your tradition of going first go continue i initially asked to speak on this but i just put in a comment i didn't need to speak unless necessary so um just asking that you mayor and council approve this item because it would maximize our funding thank you very much well said so this is the item to apply for bipartisan infrastructure law funding roll call i'm sorry yes decision yes garcia yes yes o'brien yes stark yes waring yes a store woohoo nine zero yes diego yes nine zero wonderful now we go to the planning and zoning portion of our council meeting agenda we will welcome our deputy city manager ellen stevenson up to the podium we will begin with an item in district 1 item 64 the southwest corner of i-17 and pinnacle peak road and alan if you will start us off with a brief staff report thank you mayor members of council uh josh bernarek is going to walk us through uh quickly on a couple of these items we do have powerpoint presentation but i don't believe we need them because we don't have any substantive concerns about these projects but if the council wants please let us know josh go ahead thank you alan mayor members of the council items 64 and 65 are public hearings for companion general plan amendment and rezoning cases and can be heard together but will require separate actions the subject property for both requests is 24.19 acres located near the southwest corner of i-17 and pinnacle peak road in council district 1. item 64 is gpa dv-1-2 a request to amend the general plan land use map to residential 15 plus drilling units per acre to allow for multi-family residential item 65 is z30-22-1 a request to rezone the same site from a variety of zoning districts within the deer valley airport overlay district to r-3-a d-v-a-o-a-o-a-o to allow multi-family residential the deer valley vpc recommended approval of both requests by vote of 7-4 on july 14th the planning commission recommended approval of both requests by vote of 9-0 on august 4th staff recommends approval of item 64 per the planning commission recommendation and adoption of the related resolution staff recommends approval of item 65 per the planning commission recommendation and adoption of the related ordinance mayor happy to answer any questions thank you any questions open the public hearing we do not have any members of the public to testify close the public hearing i will turn to councilwoman o'brien who represents the area and it could be a motion on 64 and 65 if no i'm sorry one and it will one at a time i moved to approve per the planning commission recommendation and the related resolution item 64. second any comments roll call i'm sorry yes decision yes sir garcia yes yes o'brien yes stark yes waring a store yes gallego yes ss80 okay good 65. i moved to approve per the planning commission recommendation and adopted relate adopt the related ordinance for admission second second we have a motion in a second roll call i'm sorry yes decision yes garcia yes yes o'brien yes stark yes waring pastor got it o'brien yes diego yes passes 8-0 we next move to item 66 which is a text amendment and good news from my perspective brief staff report mayor item 66 is zta 2-22-6 a text amendment to the historic canal side overlay district located at the northeast corner of central avenue and butler drive in council district 6. the request is to amend the permitted accessory and prohibited use list of the overlay district to allow package liquor retail and general retail sales as an accessory used to a restaurant to allow for a little oats the north mountain village planning committee recommended approval by a 12-0 vote on july 20th the planning commission recommended approval by a nine to zero vote on august 4th staff members approval of item 66 per the planning commission recommendation and adoption of the related ordinance mayor happy to answer any questions wonderful thank you it's very exciting that we're using our canals as even more of an amenity question all right we're going to have another brief public hearing open the public hearing we do not have any members of the public to comment close the public hearing councilman decicio thank you mayor i'd like to make a motion to prove per the planning commission recommendation adopt the related ordinance i want to second it go ahead because i want to steal it into district 3 someday and what i mentioned to her earlier too as i said hey i'll be gone next year so you'll be able to take whatever you want out of my district at that point i won't have any say thanks mayor we will [Laughter] perhaps we'll have to celebrate this ordinance a text amendment at a location roll call i'm sorry yes decision yes garcia yes yes o'brien yes stark yes waring yes pastor yes diego yes passes 9-0 all right we will then go to 67 and 68 which are related items 67th avenue and rosier road alignment we will here together brief staff report thank you mayor the subject property for both requests is 85.9 acres located in the northeast corner of 67th avenue road alignment in council district 7. the requests are seen as an implementation of the city's efforts related to the rio reimagine project item 67 is gpa est-1-22-7 a request to modify the general plan land use map to commercial item 68 is z 31-22-7 and request to rezone the site to c2 to allow for a mix of uses from commercial office retail and multi-family residential the planning commission recommended approval of both requests by 9-0 vote on august 4th staff recommends approval of item 67 for the planning commission recommendation adoption of the related resolution staff recommends approval of item 68 for the planning commission recommendation and adoption of the related ordinance they are happy to answer any questions thank you councilman ansari any questions yes um i do have a question for alan or josh um obviously i understand this rezoning is being brought before us um because it is due to be bought as part of the state route 30 project by adot i know you are well aware that a couple of years ago many members of the community were brought together around with our parks department to create a case study for the ideal public benefit as part of rio reimagined i do just want to put on the record that obviously it is my office's priority that whatever funds the city receives from the future sale of this property goes directly back to the community in the form of a public benefit especially for recreational space and the fact that the expertise of the community was utilized and countless hours were spent without ultimately seeing the results of their work come to fruition so this question is for alan just so it's on the record would it be possible for your team to look into where the funds from the original sale of this plot came from and if the profits from the sale could be earmarked for community benefits in this area mayor councilman ansari yes we will work with the parks department to and the finance department to ascertain where the funding came from to purchase that land so that we can make sure that we can advise you and the rest of the council exactly what those funds are eligible to be used for and have that discussion with you and then in a week or two the item will come back to have a council discussion about the uh authorizing the sale of the land and we'll talk about that with you beforehand but that way the council will have all that information uh by way of example there could have been impact fee monies used to purchase that land and so that money would have to go back to the impact v program could be used then for recreational purposes under the impact fee program within the estrella area but it's got to be specific to where that money came from first and we'll advise the council of all that okay i appreciate that and i look forward to seeing progress on this in a couple weeks and with that um i will make a motion to give me one second to do a very brief sorry public hearing but i actually have one question which i would if you just give me two sentences there will be some stipulations that anyone who would buy this property would have to deal with related to rio reimagined so like in two sentences what are those mayor members of the council there are stipulations requiring general conformance to a concept plan that will provide for pedestrian connectivity to and from the rio salado a trail on 67th avenue and a minimum amount of open space provided on site in line with the epa workshop that was held several years ago wonderful and appreciate all who participated in that process one of the things this council did as part of our budget was create a planning position related to rio enrique thank you for the work on this it's been very important and i think this is going to end up being a banner year for movement towards the vision on rio and perhaps continuing on the same thing vice mayor i want to make sure rio reimagine is protected we put a lot of work and a lot of money in in that space and in whatever we're doing it's protected and they follow all the guidelines that need to happen um so vice mayor if i may the the stipulation also requires that ultimately whoever does does come forward to develop it has to go through the public hearing process so the australian village planning committee planning commissioning use the council will have an opportunity to review and ultimately provide final approval on on the the final development plan thank you important comment from the vice mayor open the public hearing we do not have any members of the public to comment close the public hearing and now i will turn to councilman and sorry great motion to approve item 67 per the planning commission recommendation and adopt the related resolution again roll call i'm sorry yes to cecio yes garcia yes guardado yes o'brien yes stark yes waring yes pastor yes diego yes passes 9-0 all right we did 68 and we have not done 68 68 council one i'm sorry motion to approve item 68 for the planning commission recommendation and adopt the related ordinance thank you any comments we'll call i'm sorry yes does he sue yes garcia yes guardado yes o'brien yes dark yes waring yes pastor yes gallego yes passes 9-0 wonderful next we go to item 69 and 70 which are related items at the southwest corner of 48th street and washington street and we will begin with a brief staff report and then actually have a question for our aviation director if he could make his way during the staff report thank you mayor item 69 is gpa ce 2-21-8 to request to amend the general plan land use map for the site to mixed use to allow for multi-family residential item 70 is z 64-21-8 a request to rezone the site to a planned unit development to allow multi-family residential the camelback east vpc recommended approval of both requests by a vote of 16-0 on june 7th the planning commission recommended approval of both requests by vote of 9-0 on august 4th staff recommends approval of item 69 for the planning commission recommendation and adoption of the related resolution staff recommends approval of item 70 per the planning commission recommendation and adoption of the related ordinance happy to answer any questions wonderful and i again do have one question for our aviation director so given the attention the res to residential development around sky harbor would you explain the difference between this development and its companion case and others we have discussed uh thank you mayor council um first you know more broadly i'd just like to say that in 2021 it was a banner year at sky harbor airport we had just over 400 000 takeoffs and landings at sky harbor on a 3 000 acre campus and that notably makes us the eighth busiest airport in the world for takeoffs and landings and actually we are the busiest three runway airport in the world for takeoffs and landings so that's a pretty remarkable thing to do on such a small footprint so with that in mind it's really important that we carefully analyze any changes to land use as adjacent to the airport to ensure that they're compatible with the ongoing operation of our airport system so we can continue to grow it to support the growing needs of our community uh specific to this uh case uh we we look to try to be as permissive as possible either within the city or within our neighboring communities to ensure that we are doing what we can to allow land uses that are are developed in a way that can be compatible with the airport's operation and in this specific case uh what's really notable and unique about it is that it does not sit directly underneath our flight paths uh so that was one of the first things that we looked at the second thing is it does not sit within our current high impact noise contour or our 65 dnl noise contour had it sat within that 65 dnl noise contour i would be here today recommending opposition to this case but that is not the case here and so what we've done is we've asked for a couple of stipulations be entered into the record uh that includes making sure that residents who would potentially live there are notified obviously of the ongoing operation of the airport and the proximity of this development to the airport we want to make sure that the the the building is constructed in such a way that it's compatible with airport operations and so it has to get an faa notice of no hazard determination so the applicant will need to apply with the fa and get that approval and thirdly we are requiring that the through a stipulation that there would be a navigation easement that would indemnify the airport and ongoing airport operations as it relates to this parcel and we're satisfied with that mayor wonderful thank you the airport is you know is our top economic engine and we need to protect it so appreciate that um do any of my colleagues have questions before we open the public hearing open the public hearing we do have mr nick wood available to speak if necessary does anyone have questions for mr wood close the public hearing and then i will turn to council member garcia motion to approve uh per planning commission recommendation and adopt a related resolution that was item 69. second roll call i'm sorry yes the cco yes garcia yes yes stark yes waring yes pastor yes gallego yes passes 9-0 item 70 council member garcia motion to approve item 70 per the planning commission recommendation and adopt the related ordinance second roll call i'm sorry yes decision yes garcia yes guardado yes o'brien yes stark yes waring yes pastor yes gallego yes passes 9-0 thank you we stay in district 8 at the southwest corner of 43rd avenue and baseline road it will be two related items 71 and 72 staff report mayor item 71 is gpa lv-1-22-8 a request to amend the general plan landings map 2 commercial item 72 is z 25-22-8 a request to re-zone the site to a planned unit development to allow a veterinary hospital and commercial uses the living village planning committee recommended approval of both requests by an eight by eight to zero votes on june 11th the planning commission recommended approval both requests by vote of 9-0 on august august 4th staff recommends approval of item 71 for the planning commission recommendation an adoption of the related resolution staff recommends approval of item 72 for the planning commission recommendation and adoption of the related ordinance happy to answer any questions any questions we will open the public hearing we do have one comment from mark rodriguez mark the floor is yours hello mayor kate gallego and members of the phoenix city council and the vice mayor past store how you are doing today it's good to hear from all of you guys again it's because i live in the baseline area where on i always go to 48 43rd street and baseline where the the the two schools the cessna chavez high school and all the other schools that they have and you're building that hospital thing for all that stuff and mayor gallego and members of the city council it's good to hear from all of you guys again if this because i am autistic i'm just living levine for like 13 years and also mayor gallego and members of the city council have a wonderful day and also to infinity and beyond thank you mark we will close the public hearing because what can you say beyond that councilwoman and sorry or come sorry councilmember garcia thank you mayor uh motion to approve item 71 per the planning commission recommendation and adopt a related resolution second roll call i'm sorry yes this is yes garcia yes yes o'brien yes stark waring yes yes pastor yes diego yes passes 9-0 all right for our final agendas item 72 council member garcia motion to approve item 72 per the planning commission recommendation and adopt the related ordinance second roll call i'm sorry yes to ccm yes garcia yes guardado yes o'brien yes stark yes waring yes pastor yes gallego yes passes nine zero thank you that concludes the agendas portion of our meeting and now we go to the final portion which is citizen comments i will turn to our city attorney to explain this portion thank you mayor during citizen comment members of the public may address the city council for up to three minutes on issues of interest or concern to them the assistant comment session is limited to 30 minutes the arizona open meeting law permits the city council to listen to the comments but prohibits the council members from discussing or acting on the matters presented thank you and i will turn briefly to councilman stark or to vice mayor i'm sorry been a long day i just wanted to announce that it's just as where are you josh it's josh's birthday so happy birthday happy happy birthday and now we will go to citizen comment and i will ask our staff to call the citizens who are here to comment our first virtual speaker is mark rodriguez mark are you on the line yes i am can you hear me guys okay yes you may proceed okay mayor gallego and members of the city council it's good to hear from you guys again for a second time it's because all the communities of phoenix and districts and all that stuff and all the other people in the community and mayor gallego vice mayor laura pastor you guys rock and also i've been as a phoenix resident for almost like 30 years since i was born even though i was a young baby at the time and you know i would like having fun with you guys and talking to all of you guys and mayor kg i know you're smiling at me because you're inside the chambers but i want to see you at the chambers one day but hey i will respect you a shout out to all of you guys about the cco you know you're not my type not a fan of you dude but hey i'm just happy to hear to calm this agenda and just to public comments and all that and also american eagle and vice mayor pastor betty wangado jim waring jasmine asari aka yazzie and i'm waiting for that community center to be open when it's going to be open but you'll find out i called your office he has he carlos garcia and deborah stark and and o'brien too and i love to see you guys again one minute each day and also mayor gallego members of the city council it's good to hear from you guys again may the force be with you to infinity and beyond and one have a wonderful day peace next we move to speakers in upper council chambers first is faith kerns followed by frank urban councilman thank you very much for listening my name is faith kearns i am with funds for empowerment we have recently lost a friend due to a very dear friend who was on the advisory council and we recently lost him due to the heat he took every precautions necessary shading proper color clothing water it did no good it still took him he was ready to start a new life out of jail when it took him we need we need help for the heat and we need help for the heat now not sometimes later in the date we're going to continue to lose people this valley's hard on everybody there's no doubt about that but all of us need protection from this heat in one form or another we need to make more stations available for water we need to get water that's more available more quickly people can't wait out there none of us can we're all at risk for this and it's only going to get worse as time goes by so i'm asking the council to please take in mind that we must have more heating more cooling stations more water stations not only for this year but for all the years preceding this so we can continue not to lose people i've lived here in the valley for almost 62 years i'm a native i've seen things get good and i've seen things get bad and here it's been going really bad so i'm asking for everybody to please show some compassion for others and our friend michael would surely appreciate it that's the gentleman that we lost michael feldman so please keep that in mind and we'll go from there thank you our next speaker is frank urban followed by christine locke hello council members my name is frank urban i've been a phoenix resident since 1993. [Music] just to reiterate what faith has said we lost a dear friend and michael felder we need more water state more refreshment stations like water stations more long-term shelters um you know he's just a dear friend and we need uh we need relief from this heat now before it takes any more lives i know it's hard on everybody in here and everybody in phoenix in general but especially hard for the homeless and especially for the houseless for the people that are actually out on the streets that are homeless not in shelters or anything like that especially hard for them uh and i just would like you to um take in heart that it's especially hard for everyone uh thank you and i'll close with that our next speaker is christine locke followed by elizabeth venable thank you council uh my name is christine locke and i am president of the board for fun for empowerment um on august 30th we did lose michael felder one of our organizers who was at that time an unsheltered street camper he died from the heat near the near cass he it was a heat advisory and therefore he had done everything he could he had shelter he had gatorade out the whatever and he was prepared as as prepared as he could be and it's people often jump to wanting to blame the homeless person for having died uh he had not done any of the things he not engaged in any of the things that might have led to his death he was very healthy he just it was a heat advisory and people were dying today in the newspaper a reported hiker's dying but there's a lot of silence about all of the other people who are dying michael was a bright compassionate and energetically for look looking forward to doing the beneficial things that he had in mind to do phoenix has shelters for about 4 000 people the last point in time count estimated that there are 9 000 homeless people in the city so it's peter people don't choose to be homeless um there's people aren't that irrational and they're not that different from the rest of us um anything anyone who thinks that people choose to be homeless hasn't tried to rent an apartment or even make get by with a minimum wage job it's not minimum wage does not provide enough income to really survive so i just we need to think about ways to shelter people particularly when we have these heat waves um i know that phoenix has been making some efforts with providing things to people to help with the heat but these are the kinds of things that he was doing that did not stop him from dying so thank you our next speaker is elizabeth venable followed by milton rogers my name is elizabeth venable i was born here in the city of phoenix and um michael folder was a dear friend of mine he was an organizer for fun for empowerment he was particularly good at finding human rights abuses he personally experienced two constitutional rights violations he never got the chance to tell them to one of the most important bodies that's investigating you all because he wasn't there he finally got out he finally got out he was so excited to be part of life and justice and organizing and all of that was just gone he didn't he wasn't on drugs he didn't have a violent incident he simply had his body temperature go up above a certain percentage point certain degree i mean and that's all they killed him he was 61 years old two days away from his 67 62nd birthday we'd already planned what he was going to do we were all going to have ice cream cakes and i want to say it sounds snotty but when i was in public administration school i noticed something that was very disturbing people would look at budgets and see the numbers added up but they don't look at the numbers in terms of the cost of the human lives payout or in terms of offsetting costs for example i just looked online and there were about 235 people who died in the entire state as pedestrians however um there were at least two times that that have already this year died from heat in this at least in maricopa county if not in the city of phoenix i i don't know i don't want to i can't clarify those numbers but that's a real number and i find it to be negligence i think also you need to realize that housing is much cheaper than incarceration and emergency services you save about 50 percent off if you have supportive housing of leaving a person on the street so it's a cost savings to the city to shelter people to show compassion towards people and so i would encourage you to be creative in your budgeting don't just look for the numbers to add up or an ideology look for the people and how it will impact the people because these decisions kill and they're intentional they may not seem intentional but they are they show your they show your priorities and if people dying on the street from their body temperature being elevated isn't a priority i don't know what should be so thank you our next speaker is milton rogers followed by pj boone eggerton longone hi my name is pastor milton rogers by faith in the national ministries michael a felder was a member of our congregation in our church very active uh very positive uh went to uh there was a uh something that happened and he went and got incarcerated stayed in there for a whole year came out and uh was working diligently towards getting some stable housing uh to get himself situated but at that time it takes a little time to get into cash so you have to get on a waiting list and so he he he he was out there in that in that tent and uh and my phone beeps i don't know if your phone beeps but it says emergency hey we eat morning heat warning and uh if you look around there there's no water there's no place to cool off not even the little sprickets that spread out the water to cool them cool them off and he he he not only any drugs uh not doing anything not out robbing anybody or stealing or drinking alcohol he's pounding water and pounding gatorade and he's doing all the things that he needs to do and i met with him the day before and i said uh michael i said uh you know why don't you come on out to my house and he's a very private person he says you know what i don't want to put myself on your family i'm going to be okay someone's going to come and get me tomorrow but tomorrow was too late because he went in that tent and he passed away and his temperature was so high that he just slipped away so i would say to the council members and the rest of you all that are listening to try to implement something uh or come up with something or a way to be able to help the people that are less fortunate than us and it's just not michael a felder that we're speaking about today because if you go to the county on a tour of the heat related deaths that has came about just this year you would be shocked but it's not publicized it's not on the news they're talking about stuff that happened in new york in canada and russia but right here in arizona people are dying because of the not enough attention to those that are less fortunate so i pray that we come up with an idea or something to put in place to be able to help those that are left fortunate i thank you for listening to me and god bless you and keep you in his perfect will our final speaker is pj boone eggerton langone um hi council members i'm here also for michael fellner um i'm with the tadini house we came up with the funding for him to be able to live in a tent and one of the things that shocked me what was that i didn't even consider the heat that it was going to be in a tent it was going to be hot i was just thinking that he had a place to stay i couldn't come up with funding for a hotel or a place for him only a tent and it just goes to show how we're not really thinking about the people that are dying in the streets and and so what i would suggest is maybe in your planning efforts to continue to think about the vulnerable population here i know you have a lot on your plate but maybe in all of your planning efforts just to remember you know like when you're you're talking about streets and roadways and you can talk about trees and coolness and you know things like that to help people to survive in the heat and then eventually the cold we have a lot of that going on here that was our final public comment thank you so much for that important testimony and would thank my colleagues we have the unanimous vote today to allocate 10 million towards homelessness services which we hope will make a difference we are adjourned [Music] [Applause] [Music] foreign