we will call the uh special meeting of the Reno City Council on Wednesday May 1st 10: a.m. to order and the first item on our agenda is for me to welcome everyone we have a very small attendance here today but we have a lot of good staff attendance um I before we get started I just wanted to mention the purpose of today's meeting and then we'll officially start um our goal today is to have Council to have an opportunity having digested the budget that was presented to them uh to give some input now that they're a little more educated and knowledgeable and have had a little time to process their thoughts um so the purpose here is to give some input but my understanding is we're not planning to vote on anything I mean that's my understanding let me ask Vicki is that correct so it's really a council input day and we really appreciate this opportunity uh which is unique um we're going to start with the uh introductory items and uh the Pledge of Allegiance and I'm going to ask krie kosy to lead us in the pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all wow okay thank you so much and then we have a roll call please Madam clerk thank you vice mayor we're calling a ro for the special meeting on Wednesday May 1st council member breus here D here marz here eert absent at this time Taylor here Reese here shivi here Madame vice mayor and Madame mayor you do have a quorum of the Reno city council all right thanks so much um and the next item is uh we're going to start public comment and let me ask you madam clerk is there a public comment uh Madam vice mayor we do not have any registered at this time for item A3 but let me just read my disclosure first sure we'll allow commenters online to raise their hand if they'd like to and then we will go from there so members of the public may hear observe and provide public comment virtually by registering through the following link which can be found on reno.gov meetings https colon l i n KS period re n o period goov SL capital c o u n c l 05 hyphen 01y 24 for those participating in Chambers in accordance with Council rule 6.3.1 one while in this room please be respectful disruptive behavior from audience members like clapping yelling whistling Etc which impede the meeting May result in a warning issued by the presiding officer if this Behavior continues zo may be removed from chambers if you're an attendee in the zoom meeting and would like to make public comment please raise your hand at this time we do have one public commenter Ryan goldhammer okay oh Ryan please unmute yourself state your name for the record and begin speaking and you have 3 minutes okay you can hear me we can thank you okay uh Ryan goldhammer owner of noble P parlor um so I'm just joining in um as requested by a fellow Midtown business owner um and my general comment is that you know although I do understand that there's clearly costs associated with maintenance and repair towards any sort of um uh banners or beautification projects and things that we do for the Midtown area or any neighborhood for that matter um but at the same time you know those are investments to me that are investments in that Community their investments in those neighborhoods those are projects that are geared towards um creating Commerce creating tourism creating tax dollars that are then collected by the city for those types of projects and those are community outreach type projects to me and the benefit of them is for everybody and the problem that I have specifically with trying to force a Merchants Association to pay for things like that is you know you probably you might only have a 30 or 40% or less even participatory um or participation rate of the business that are in that area so you end up with a situation where you have the majority of businesses that are benefiting from that beautification or benefiting from that those marketing efforts or banners and uh you know advertising on in the trash C on on the trash uh receptacles and things like that that aren't even paying in to the association but then the association is using all of its funds and all of its dollars to um support you know for for those that maintenance and repair or or whatever those projects are and to me the real benefit is to allow those associations to use their you know they don't have we don't have big budgets um the money and the dues that are collected are probably rather small in comparison to the budgets that are trying to be executed for massive events like dancing in the streets or first Thursdays and and and other things I'm sure are coming down the pipeline um community cleanup projects and mural tours and you know all sorts of other neat interactive things for our community to do so in my opinion it's like that it just doesn't seem a very cost-effective way for an association to spend its money it's not um you know there there there are better ways to allow the association to independently spend its money towards creating Commerce um creating events and that benefit everybody and in turn end up benefiting uh the city itself so that's it all right thank you so much Ryan for being here today really helps all right thank you um is there any more public comment no with that Madam vice mayor we're um closing out public comment also there was no correspondence received all right great next up we have approval of the agenda and and I'm looking for a motion so move a second okay we have a a sorry we have a motion from council member Ree and a second from council member Taylor uh before we vote on this I meant to ask our manager were there any changes in the agenda today there are not okay thanks all right well we have a motion and a second uh all in favor please say I I I any opposed all right motion passes unanimously and we're looking for a motion on approval of the minutes and which minutes do we have have minutes today I didn't think so okay good all right so uh we don't have consent agenda it looks like and on C we uh don't have a public hearing so we're going to move to item D and let me ask I I meant to ask Madame mayor did you have a public comment that you wanted to make I don't have a public comment I would just ask for a process in the sense that you know I typically like to hear the entire presentation and then ask questions later so if we could make sure that we don't interrupt Miss ban ven during the time she's presenting presenting and then we can ask questions later that would be helpful yeah I think she's got she's nodding she's put in some stopping points I think at the appropriate place and it's a very short it seems like presentation overall today in contrast to last time so we should be good okay yeah that would that's fine I just want to follow along with her yeah so hear the entire presentation okay good thank you all right and then um so we're moving on to item D and I know a number of people have disclosures and I'll start myself um this is uh relates to the portion of the fee schedule H and item it says C2 but I think it's uh later in D so Madame mayor fellow council members uh Madam clerk uh the item D involves adoption of the fee schedule well it's not really the adoption we're going to be reviewing it and commenting on the fee schedule for the City of Reno for FY and I think it is actually 2425 right yes um doing my best here John okay um including business license fees and in my private life I own two businesses licensed in the city Areno desert Pacific exploration and mquest LTD the proposed fee increases on both businesses are minimal not significant and will not financially impact my business in any material way on this matter I've sought guidance from the city attorney's office and pursuant to NRS 281a 420 pen4 P the law presumes that the independence of Judgment of a reasonable person in a public officer's situation would not be materially affected by the public officer's commitment in a private capacity to the interest of another where the resulting benefit or detriment uring to the other person is not greater than that uring any other member of any general business profession occupation or group that's affected by the matter and while I have a significant pecuniary interest in my own business the resulting benefit or detriment uring to me will not be greater than that uring to any other member of any general business professional occupation and the fact that I am a business owner will not impact my ability to impartially review and render a decision upon this particular agenda item Madame clerk please accept this disclosure and Lodge it on the record for this meeting and subsequent meetings pertaining to this agenda item which let me just ask John means I don't have to read it next time or I do when we go yeah you will have to read it any time that you're even though they're I'll have it on the record yeah okay all right well thank you and then is there anyone else that has a disclosure Madam vice mayor yes Madam oh we'll start with Madame mayor yep I know we're gonna sound a little redundant here yeah I also I don't think we are voting today we're not but they we're discussing all right uh Madame mayor fellow city council members and Madam clerk item C2 involves adoption of the fee scheduled for the City of Reno for fy2 24 including business licensing fees in my private capacity I own um the nature of my businesses or I own businesses the nature of my businesses require that I obtain a City of Reno privileged business license the proposed fee increases are minimal not significant and will not financially impact my business in any material way on this matter I have set guidance from the city attorney's offers pursu pursuant to NRS 281 a420 the law presumes that the independence of Judgment of a reasonable person in the public officer's situation would not be materially affected by the public officer's commitment and private capacity to the interest of another where the resulting benefit or detriment uring to the other person is not greater than the occurring to any other member of any general business profession occupation or group that is affected by this matter here when I have a significant PR pecuniary interest in my business the resulting benefit or detriment uring to me will not be greater than the acing to any other member of General business profession occupation within the city uh Madame clerk please accept this disclosure Lodge it on the record for this meeting and subsequent meetings pertaining to this agenda item thank you okay okay um thank you and then council member Reese thank you madam mayor Madame mayor fellow council members and Madame clerk item D1 involves discussion and penitential direction for staff regarding the fiscal year 2425 budget fee schedule and strategic priorities for the city including business license fees in my private life I'm a partner at the law firm of ree ring VTO any proposed fee increase are minimal not significant will not financially impact me or Reese ring velto in any material way in addition ree ring velto represents the Reno Police protective Association on legal matters involving uh legal matters on this matter I've sought guidance from the city attorney's office with regard to the license and business fees pursuant to NRS 281a 4204a the law presumes that the independence of Judgment of a reasonable person in the public officer situation would not be materially affected by the public officer commitment and private capacity to the interest of another where the resulting benefit or detriment occurring to the person other person is not greater than that occurring to any other member of any general business profession occupation or group that is affected by the matter here while I have a significant pecuniary interest in my employment with ree ring velto the resulting benefit or Det acing to me will not be greater than that acing to any other member of the general business profession or occupancy or occupation within the city see enray Weber commission opinion number 0947 c 2009 in fact I'm a partner will not impact my ability in partial review and render a decision upon this particular agenda item with regard to the rppa pursuant to NRS 281 a065 4 and5 I have a commitment to a private capacity to law firm as my employer and the rppa based on the law firm's continuing business relationship with the rppa I also have a pecuniary interest in the client fees rppa pays the law firm consequently the independence of Judgment of reasonable person may in the situation be material affected in taking action could voting on those items related RPA in order to avoid conflicts of interest and any appearance of impropriety and in complying with the ethics law I would ask staff not to solicit my direction or budget matters involving the RPA going forward please let me know when you will be discussing rppa matters specifically and I will leave the room for the duration of that conversation thank you in advance for your cooperation Madam clerk please accept this disclosure and Lodge it on the record for this meeting and subsequent meetings pertaining to this agenda item thank you anyone else um council member Taylor uh Madame mayor fellow city council members and Madam clerk item D1 involves adoption of the fee schedule for the city of reeno for FY 2425 including business license fees in my private life I own tailor made solutions the proposed fee increases are minimal not significant and will not financially impact my business in any material way on this matter I have sought guidance from the city attorney's office the law presumes that the independence of Judgment of reasonable person in this in the public officer's situation would not be materially affected by the public officer's commitment and private capacity to the interests of another where the result benefit or detriment occurring to the other person is not greater than that occurring to any other member of the general business profession occupation or group that is affected by the matter here while I have a significant prary interest in my business the resulting benefit or detriment occurring to me will not be greater than that occurring to any other member of any general business profession or occupation within the city the fact that I am a business owner will not impact my ability to impartially review and render a decision upon this particular agenda item Madam clerk please accept this disclosure and launch it on the record for this meeting and subsequent meetings pertaining to this agenda item thank you all right thank you and is there anyone else um council member breus yeah I'm one of I think last count 50,000 business license holders have an interest in one too so City attorneys deem that we um disclose on this related to the fee schedule Madame mayor fellow city council members and Madam clerk item C2 involves adoption of the fee scheduled for the City of Reno for 24 including business license fees in my private life I am a partner of lmj LLC which is a real estate partnership ship for 316 and 318 basser Street the proposed fee increases are minimal not significant and will not financially impact my business in any material way on this matter I sought guidance from the city attorney's office pursu to NRS 281a 420 sub4 Suba the law presumes that the independence of Judgment of a reasonable person in the public officer's situation would not be materially affected by the public officer's commitment of private capacity to the interest of another where the resulting benefit or detriment accruing to the other person is not greater than that acing to any member of any general business profession occupation or group that is affected by the matter here while I have a significant pecuniary interest in my business the resulting benefit or detriment acing to me will not be greater than that acing to any member of any general business profession or occupation within the city see in the matter of Weber commission opinion number 09- 47c 2009 the fact that I am a business owner will not impact my ability to impartially review and render a decision upon this particular agenda item Madame clerk please accept this disclosure and LOD it on the record for this meeting and subsequent meetings pertaining to this agenda item I request that it be recorded in the record pervade him thank you all right thank you anyone else okay all right so now we've uh dealt with the disclosures I want to turn it over to Vicky vanon who's going to walk us through a budget workshop and again um I want to remind everyone we're not going to be taking action today but we are going to express our opinions our thoughts our general concurrence with the direction or discourage uh or non-agreement with the direction or additions or subtractions this is a time to voice your opinions all right thank you Vicki let get situated I'm ready good morning vice mayor and council members Vicky van be and Director of Finance for the record I'm excited to be here for your second workshop on this budget for next year so I wanted to just give at this stage at just kind of give you an overview of what we're going to look at today what we're here for and um what you're going to see with the presentation so in this just as a reminder we had our first workshop on March 18th and that was really a super comprehensive uh deep dive into all of thei financials of the city what we were seeing for the current year and what we're going to see for next year and so today we will not be doing a deep dive into those financials what we're going to do is talk about any changes from what we already discussed on March 18th and then any um additions that are being proposed based on the feedback that we got on that day so the first Workshop is really that first first roll up where we think we are to get your thoughts on what your priorities are today we're coming back to you with any changes that we've seen since that point and how we um have worked with the city manager's office to provide some input for additions to the budget that we feel will meet the priorities that you gave us on that first Workshop so as we move forward this would be the last Workshop prior to the final budget adoption because we've tried to roll up a budget that's presented by the manager's office to address those concerns of those priorities so any concerns you have anything you want to address differently today's the day to do that as far as the budget and the uh fee schedule as well so um we'll have plenty of time for discussion I only have 20 slides to give you those changes and those updates I really want to get through all 20 slides because we may get to some of the answer the questions at the very end and they should go very fast I did a practice run up and it was less than 30 minutes so um I assume it'll probably be like 20 minutes um but that will give you sufficient time to really give us that feedback to make sure we address any of those concerns before we come back for that final adoption so without further Ado I'm going to move on dive in all right so when we met on March 18th um I put together this word cloud because I took a lot of notes when we met with you on the 18th and these were the prior ities that Council brought up at that meeting amongst all the wards and so um I really liked the idea of doing this because I wanted to let you know first of all we listen to you we listen to what you're saying we listen to what your priorities are and we really try to address those we don't have as we mentioned before we don't have all the money to address everything that Council needs at one time um we do have very limited resources and so we do our best to figure out what we can do and work it within uh the priorities that you give us so we may not me be able to meet everything but I do think with what we're presenting today we've have met a lot of the items that were brought up um as your priorities moving forward and so um with that I'm going to talk a little bit about these so at that Workshop the majority of the council members Express Public Safety Code Enforcement and Parks those were the three number one priorities that I saw across the board from uh this this uh Council within Public Safety the priorities were addressing crime and providing tools for better policing with data management and obviously providing more police officers on the streets code enforcement priorities included parking abandoned vehicles noise on the streets in the downtown and in the area of parks there were a number of priorities in that area uh River Rangers implementation of the parks and Recreation Open Spaces plan that Pros plan and Parks Capital keeping those facilities that we currently have maintained and also addressing the new facilities like the Moana pool um with these Council priorities in the Forefront that's what we're bringing back to you today and there are some other outlier kind of items that are on there too like the Reno Arch um homelessness Capital programs um other items such as that murals some of these things were brought up as well but the overarching items were the public safety um code enforcement and then Parks so that's really we addressed those but we addressed a lot of other stuff on here too so I just want to make sure we bring that forward this is the only real re review slide that I have for you today on the March work shop so I wanted to review where we were when we met in March and then everything going forward will be any changes since that time so in March we rolled up that first roll up where are we where do we think we're going to end the year and what do we think next year is going to look like when we do that we don't have all of the data from the state at that point we don't have the final property tax numbers until March 25th so when we met before we didn't have final numbers for property tax and then the other thing is we don't we didn't have um as much data as we have now because we have a couple of more data points at least from a couple more months of since that time and revenues and expenditures so we can refine some of that stuff between the time we met then and the time we meet now um we included everything in the city as it currently exists the current services and programs that exist and the Staffing level we did increase for inflation in areas that we know would increase based on we know the contracts have already increased we know what those are so that was already built in capital funding is shown on here there's no change to that going uh what from what we're presenting um the gemt funds for the fire apparatus program those would be dedicated to that those are the transport funds so that was um put forward to put that dedicated funding to that program at that time we had 1 million to the OPB trust and 1 million to contingency and we increased the allocations to risk workers comp and Fleet funds because that's based on the needs of those funds and what those expenditures are so we have to match those up up every year and we did see a significant increase in risk and the other two always typically increase based on servic and supplies and also um the Personnel associated with those so that still continues um we did realign the allocations for public safety for their Severance trying to make that um based to more align with what we've seen in the past as far as Retirement so we're not playing catchup as we've seen um here in the last couple of years with so many retirements coming out and then we also talked about those seven new full-time positions for those new facilities being the public safety center and the Moana Springs pool facility so to bring those online we had talked about at that previous meeting what the operating costs were for those and what um full-time positions would be needed to run those positions so those to run those facilities and so um that's where we were when we met met in March Vicky before you go just the acronym gemt what is that ground emergency medical transport it's the transports the that fire is doing um when they get called by Rima okay thank youal trans so new today so if we take everything that we talked about on March 18th and we say okay what's different today what's different today is we have revised projections for revenues and expenditures and again that's because we have a couple of more data points from a couple more months of data that we've received and then we also have the final numbers from the Department of Taxation which we got on March 25th so the revised Revenue projections are about a million dollars in total and I'll go into where those came from on the next slide but in general about a million dollars more um on the expenditure side this is where we were really able to sharpen our pencils and really get down in there and try to find that extra f fing because when we met on March 18th there really wasn't a capacity to really add anything to the budget it rolled up it balanced but I really didn't have anything to offer at that point other than taking what your feedback is and taking it back and trying to figure out how can we fund these better so we really sharpened our pencil and looked at a lot of the expenditures and in some of the areas where that you would expect to increase like retiree Health premiums um you'd expect that to increase year-over-year and we build in factors for that um that's one area where I was able to dial that back a little bit because it's been flat for about four years so even though you would anticipate that that expense would increase it has not so I do feel comfortable that we can dial that back a little bit and have a little savings there the other area that um I looked at that really made the big impact is in the severance pays so in the severance payouts I decreased those by by a million and so the reasoning behind that is because two Factor right now the timing of theem and how long those positions remain open is really um creating a little bit more salary savings than we've seen in the past and so with that salary savings we can cover some of those unanticipated Severance payouts so why I'm comfortable with that the second Factor on that is better costing tools um we have a labor costing software that it's I think this is the third year we've had it but the first year it was it was used but it wasn't um the big tool that it is now and so what that does is allow us to accurately cost um the labor groups as we move through and a labor costing and that's really been important for us in the special pay realm because all of the special pays for our Public Safety members were very hard to get handle on and now that we're able to cost those at the appropriate level we do see significantly more savings when those positions are vacated or um some turnover occurs so with those two factors um I did dial back Severance a little bit I still kept the severance increased and so for police it's increased uh let me check my for police it's at 900,000 and then 600,000 for fire so that's still increasing the police Severance from last year from Two by 250,000 and then for fire by 300,000 so we're still increasing it and I believe that's the appropriate level where we need to be based on the other factors that I just mentioned um the other big item on here change is uh we are recommending no allocation to opep trust this year which would be 1 million um the reasoning for that is because we just don't have any other capacity anywhere else there's really not another space for us to fit um some of the things that meet your priorities and be able to accomplish those without uh decreasing that contribution and so last year we did forego that contribution and we would be foregoing it this year too if all of the items that we're presenting to you meet your needs and that's what you want to move forward with so if you look at these items on here we end up with $4.5 million in extra money and it's not really new money the really only the new money is the is the million dollars in new Revenue the other money the other three and a half is just we've sharpened our pencils and figured out ways to save in other areas and then a million of that obviously is OPB so we're still kind of squeezing this budget and we're making it work but in the end it is still a balanced budget it still works everything still moves forward um as we had talked about before we're still going to balance that budget and keep that 15% fund balance with what we're presenting so if we look at general fund revenues in the general fund this is the million dollars just explaining to you where those differences came from we got the new numbers from Department of Taxation on March 15th in property tax you'll see the blue line was the original amount that we talked about in March and then the green line that's where we are today so property tax went up by about a million but C tax we got the January and actually we just got February yesterday for SE tax um it's actually gone down a little January went down a little bit for SE tax but we expected that we talked about that before we thought it would because consumer spending for January Nationwide was down so we anticipated that February was right on budget I anticipate that March will be right on budget as well um consumer spending for March Nationwide was back up again and we tend to follow those exact same Trends so what I did was I dialed back sex a little bit in the current year by a million dollars based on how we're currently trending right now we're about 8% below budget which is about $500,000 if we continue that Trend we'll be about a million below budget in the current year that has an impact on next year as we build it because we build that based on how we think we're going to end the current year and that growth over that so what this is telling you here is property tax went went up by a million but seax went down by a million it's a net wash between those two really where we're picking up that extra million is between franchise fees and business licenses those after I've looked at those again to see how those are trending in the current year and how that goes into next year those are actually trending a little bit higher than what I had so between those two really we seeing about a million dollar extra and that's where that's coming from total budget general fund 312 million total budget for expenses 312 million balance budget you really don't see much change on this side again the original the blue the green uh where we are today you don't see much change on here because a lot of the uh change that we found the space that we found to build out some of your priorities was in expenditures so we placed one expenditure with another expenditure in order to keep that budget balanced and to keep us where we need to to be on track so with this budget we've proposed the addition of 31 new positions so seven of those positions we already talked about and I'm want not going to spend a lot of time talking about those again today we talked about in March those seven would be for the new facilities that are coming online and those positions are needed to ensure that we can get those facilities online and maintain those facilities um Public Safety has 12 of the total positions that are being recommended and Parks and Rec eight again these are meeting council's priorities as far as Public Safety is number one parks and wreck and the real idea behind this is because even though that wasn't technically brought out as we need more HR people or we need more it what happens is was we add to our Workforce we and we add facilities and we add infrastructure we have to have those support positions in some of the other areas to support that so that's what HR and IT are going to do are they're going to support um the people we adding and also support the facilities that are actually coming online so we're going to go through each area so you'll know exactly what the positions are and what's being proposed so Public Safety there'll be 10 police officers are being proposed so you'll have a police team that's six police officers and one sergeant and those would start the academy in January that's consistent with their Academy schedule so that's why that's been set that way we have one Lieutenant to help in the management there of that team and then one crime analyst which meets that goal of the tools for better policing this is the crime analyst that the chief has talked about before that's been so critical and her being able to redefine how she deploys the police and then we have the criminalist technician and this is support for their forensics program and then a supply increase for that forensics program as well to go ahead and be able to do the things that they can do on site without having to send some of th those things over to the county um for fire we have one position proposed and that's a management analyst and it's to support that EMS program that um transport program as they've seen that come online they need some more office kind of help for that to do that program and so that's what this position would do there's some extra money here for maintenance of their exhaust system at the uh stations themselves it's not that they don't have these systems it's just they need some additional funding for some maintenance it's not a lot 40,000 and then another 15,000 for the on call Fire And that's really to have that extra on call support for the July and August busy season again only 15,000 there and then uh lastly on this page will be one Public Safety dispatch this is a change from what was on the staff report the staff report had the same dollar amount but um initially the department had requested that they get this uh to do an overlap so when someone retires and someone new comes in to fill they could overlap that position for training they do currently have some capacity to do that because when someone retires or leaves there's some vacancy savings there so they do have capacity to do that they were asking for a little more capacity for it um once this was looked at a little clearer they said you know based on the call volume and the um amount of calls we're seeing we would really rather have a an actual new position because we can still do some of that overlap within the area where we already have and we think the new position would be a better Fit For What the department needs in order to meet those calls and so this is uh a position being offered here versus just an overlap so in total you're looking at 12 Public Safety positions and these would meet the the public safety feature of um the council priorities for Public Safety and then for tools for better policing safety and such in the Arts parks and historical resources realm on the left hand side you'll see those seven position well five positions here for the pool and then two are actually in um the maintenance section and we talked about those before for the facilities so five are for the new facility for the pool we have two River Rangers on here to support the try River and the management of that area we also have one fund development manager and that is actually the first step of the pros plan it's step number 1.1 of the pros plan that was presented to council and that that Pros plan that first step the first goal is a sustainable funding mechanism and that's what this this position is um deemed to do to start that sustainable funding mechanism to start that plan um other enhancements in Parks just a few Sierra kids rewards it's a reward system for after school program 9,000 um and then some additional funding for the Youth city council and um a shared vehicle between those um right at $20,000 not much there but just some extra funding for that um arts and culture historic preservation funds of 25,000 and then murals uh there was a request for murals some additional mural money for uh I believe it was the California area um some murals in that area and potentially other areas as well but there's $100,000 that's been allocated in room tax for that in governance and organizational Effectiveness again a council priority we have one business licensed technician and this one would be paid out of RDA 2 so it's just for informational purposes on here so that you can see how everything comes together as far as a team and how this is looked at in total to meet the needs and what the needs are going to be in the future in equity and community relations uh an ADA consultant and then an intern and then in website accessibility um these would be tools to ensure accessibility and usability of the website for the public um and that would fix some of the issues that we're seeing currently and then again that it position and the two HR positions to support at continuing to add positions as we build and build up the budget and we build up facilities and things some of these things impact other departments and this one is is perfect example of that impact um the other thing I just wanted to quickly highlight on here is infrastructure replacement there's $368,000 that we've allocated to infrastructure replacement for it and this is really for network and server in infrastructure replacement and it's actually a replacement program it's similar to what we're doing for the fleet replacement and also the um fire apparatus replacement program and building maintenance program this would be a maintenance program for all that it infrastructure that we have and it's so critical um and this is really important because we have not had this in the past and it's something that we needed and it would be going ongoing in the future so this is creating that new program going forward and keep building on it we had talked about this La during the last budget cycle when I was here before you then um about how critical these programs are and once you get them started to continue to fund them Economic Opportunity homelessness and affordable housing we've really had a great response to all of the neighborhood cleanups that have gone on so um what is being proposed here is a dedicated position for the the neighborhood cleanups currently the the current staff that we have is doing it kind of as as a collateral Duty so it's pulling them away from other duties that they have on normal projects and normal things and what this would do was allow them to get back to the other areas that they need to focus on and would focus in a neighborhood coordinator directly to this program infrastructure climate change and environmental sustainability maintenance and operations we have one fleet manager supervisor Fleet Maintenance supervisor on here and this would be out of the fleet fund um currently they have a fleet manager but they do not have a Fleet Maintenance supervisor they don't have that direct person working on the floor day-to-day over um their their maintenance people and this would be in the fleet fund and this is one of those areas as well where when we add positions like police we're adding cars we're adding all of the things that go with that and so it does impact another department and this is an area where they really feel that they could use um some extra supervision and extra maintenance support to support that continued growth of the city for the public safety center in the pool these are the ones we talked about before the the maintenance Texs and the operating expenses we bring those facilities online we have to make sure that we have the ability to maintain those and have the them properly staffed then the last one on here is a senior civil engineer for the street fund be funded out of the street fund to support the vision zero program it's the trucky Meadows task force and the goal of this is to make the data driven decisions to make safe sorry to make data driven decisions to make streets safer it's a tongue twister there streets safer um with the goal of making streets safer and reducing pedestrian deaths and krie kosy has a lot of more information on that if during The Question session you have questions on that but that is a really great program that they are currently doing now but they would like someone in the lead in that to really take that lead under economic and Community Development we have one code enforcement officer two and that would be out of RDA 2 to support that team that you're building over there um last year council did approve two positions uh for rda2 and this would be an additional position that really creates that right team and mix to move forward with some of the programs that they're doing there then uh we also have one senior code enforcement officer on here as well and again it's supporting that code enforcement you know those things that uh Council wanted to address parking abandoned vehicles blight a lot of these issues that Council brings up that's what this is meant to support we're going to increase some overtime there for after hours enforcement a training increase because they're getting more people on here and they have some trainings that they can't do locally they have to actually travel for and they're not um done virtually and then the towing contract increase one of the things that was brought up was um abandoned vehicles they currently have $90,000 in the budget that they use for that when they tow RVs that costs a lot more money and so they're not able to do as many RV toes as they would like to do so proposing an increase of $60,000 to that area so it would bring their total for the towing contract to$ 150,000 that they would have each year going forward to make sure they can address those abandoned vehicles and then a couple of Fleet additions these are based on positions that were being added to the budget when you look at it overall there's your 31 positions eight would be in parks and wreck and then the other 12 uh that are the larger amounts would be in public safety um really focusing on code with those economic and Community Development ones and then in general government those support staff that we need in order to to increase some of these other areas and you can see that I I think this slide is a good representation to show you that we consistantly added to Public Safety over the years to you know with in fiscal year 21 following the pandemic and when we were in that un time frame we really didn't add any positions to the budget we added a few midyear but you can see we've really tried to ramp that up as we've gone out we added 38 in fiscal year 22 if you look at Public Safety and then 21 and then 20 we're proposing 12 proposing 12 this year this year we we are seeing that flattening of the budget that's why we don't have the same capacity that we've had in the last couple of years and we have adjusted in order to make sure that we can maintain that balance budget here's are the just a summary so you can see where all the dollars are going as far as what I've just shown you so Public Safety it's an additional $1.8 million going to Public Safety an additional $1.9 million going to Arts parks and historical resources and that's the the the main bulk you have 1.4 million going to the infrastructure and the climate change and environmental sustainability as well fee schedule you saw the fee schedule the left portion we we talked about that on March 18th these were the changes from last last year to what's being proposed this year um you do have some changes in the CPI so the CPI is 3.6% it's the Western Region's December CPI and that's always based off of that and we adjust any applicable fees by that and that's our starting point for the fee schedule and then any other changes um are based on what departments are submitting what we're seeing um as far as changes that they need for new fees and other things and some of that was discussed at the last meeting changes from that um the CPI was increased on the building fees that was not previously uh Rec that was not pre previously proposed but it was um presented to the BAC the building Enterprise Financial advisory committee and um they did recommend moving forward with doing a CPI increase on those fees in building that are applicable so that is a change from what you've seen before and they did recommend that um council member Martinez brought up last time uh the individual resident parking sign increase that had really jumped to match the cost of doing that and one of the recommendations was to phase that in so you will see that in there and then in parking enforcement uh council did give us direction to go ahead and move forward with the ordinance change to remove those fees from RMC and put them on the fee schedule so that you can review that those and update those every year and that ordinance change is in process so you're starting to see that come forward to you fire had Pro propose doing something similar but at this time they've decided they want to leave them on the RMC and maybe pursue that at some future time we look at the general fund this is so everything I've just shown you rolled up into the budget so you'll see that the the line piece on the top that's the revenues going for forward and then all your expenditures are below that the line being on top of all those bars means that we have balanced budget when you start to see that Gap out toward the end that's the capacity capacity to grow in the future and keep and maintain that balance budget we do have uh built in here in fiscal year 27 the anticipated bond for the fire uh Central Station that headquarter station so we did anticipate based on what we currently know about costs for it we based the bond on that um and to be very conservative we based it uh at the full amount that we think that that Bond would be to F fund the whole project that is not the intent the intent is to save money before then and then also to use some RDA funds to do some site work which we'll talk about and then um bond for the difference but in the event we bonded for the whole thing as a conservative approach it works when we look at the forecast for the general fund this shows you the fund balance and the percent of fund balance and so you'll see in those years 27 and 28 we kind of go down to that 14% but overall we are between 15 14 and 15% going out until you really start see that climb and you see that climb again that's that capacity to grow because we build this model based on current assumptions and current Staffing levels we do build in factors like increases what we anticipate increases for step increases for staff um increases in contracts inflation that kind of things we build that in but we don't build in additional Staffing in the oute so that's that capacity you're going to see as it goes up on the end so coming up we are down to the last few slides so coming up May 22nd again is that that's going to be the public hearing for the budget and the fee schedule adoption so we will take your feedback from today anything that you don't see on here that you want changed that you want new there is there's really no new money so we can if there are things that you want different we can look at potentially how can we fund that but we may have to look at changing some other things that maybe were proposed in order to do that because there this is built out balanced and in order to keep it balanced we would have to take something away to add something so um that's where we are in that on May 9 9th we'll be going to the financial Advisory Board which is next Thursday and so we'll present what we have here any changes um that are recommended today and any information and feedback that we get today we will present to them and then we will ask them for their review and their recommendation coming forward for the final adoption on the 22nd um June 1st that's when the budget's due to taxation so once we adopt we send it to them on June 1st at taxation and then in August September time frame that's when we're going to come back and talk to you about that current year savings we we discussed last time that's anywhere right now I'm estimating anywhere from 9 to 11 million bucks we'll have um to spend of onetime funding and most of that is from Savings in certain areas it's not from excess revenues it's mostly from savings um in certain areas and so once we close the book books and know better what that number is we will come back to council to address some one-time funding opportunities because as I mentioned at the beginning of this presentation we don't have enough money to address everything especially the larger things that I know are really important to the community important to you as Council um but we do have some options to address that maybe with some onetime funding opportunities in the future um so when we look at those one-time funding opportunities again we're looking about anywhere from $9 to1 million we won't know that exact number until we close out the books don't need an actual decision on any of this today I'm just putting it out there this is the plan moving forward so that we have some funds that we know are going to be available these would be opportunities for that one-time funding that we've heard from um Council as far as things we could do with it um fire station headquarters I put on here because if we were to if you were to decide to put money towards that that would be technically a down payment be like saving for your house we're down payment saving up to make a big down payment before we have to know that we're going to bond in uh fiscal year 27 so the more we can save now the less we have to bond in the future other items on here Reno Arch you could potentially make more a contribution to OPB if you wanted to in the current year we have uh we still have a million dollars in contingency right now um that could be put toward OPB if Council would like to do that next year since we aren't contributing to OPB uh as proposed right now the same thing could be done then too if we didn't have any extraordinary expenses that come up during the year you could take that money at the end of the year and put that toward OPB and continue to make that progress on that long-term liability um rise in karma box Virginia Lake Project was brought up at their last meeting uh we don't really have current estimates on that right now we actually are working on current estimates so when we get those and we're actually working on current estimates for the arch as well so in between now and when we come back to you to discuss the books when we start closing those out we will have good estimates on those um to allow you to make some of these better decisions so that is the end of my presentation and I'm available for questions on things um available to hear comments discussion excellent everything you want to talk about and fee schedule too all right okay thank you so much that was very comprehensive and we learned a lot um I I will start with a question um last time you spoke to us about $10 million in RDA two yes and $10 million potentially in these one shot that you just have up on the chart so I just wanted to be clear because some people have said we have 10 million we had talked last meeting about putting the first 10 million from RDA 2 to the fire station yes and we are still proposing that when we open the RDA 2 meeting we will be proposing to do that because that's 10 million in money that we have currently and it fits the plan that I've been working with public works with on phasing that project okay um so yes it's two different buckets that's what I want to make sure we still have two different buckets and then this one you have fire station headquarters again yes so what was your be saving for a down payment so it's looks just like you're going to buy a house gotta save for that down payment the more we can save now if we set it aside the less we will have to bond similar to what we did with the two big projects now we paid some cash some Bond right and then we had some grants okay so um if we I know I'm starting at the end but that's very fresh you just ended with that there I know that you won't know exactly how much we have in uh carry forward for several months after the budget closes and so that could be August September October something I think you close out in September October we close the books technically around October after we get all of the entries made I will have a really good I I can give a really good estimate in August and so we could go ahead and have those conversations in that August and September time frame because I will really know what it is we haven't officially closed it but I'll know what it is i' like to think of about something different and that is that you'll have a really good idea but let's say you're estimating it might be 7 or $10 million for this um but it seems like on July 1 you probably know we have one or two million at least not necessarily because we have to wait for all of the um invoices and things to come in so even though we end on June 30 we still pay bills for 60 days no I understand the process but what I'm saying is it you're anticipating today that you're going to have 10 million and what I'm saying is can you say with some certainty on July 1 that you have at least 1 million yes I could that's all I'm saying yes 1 million yes but all the way up to 10 no correct I could that's all I'm saying that you have some sense that we have one or two or even three million we don't know if we have seven 8 9 10 absolutely so what one idea I'd like us to discuss or or I'd like to put forward is that there's some things on this onetime funding list that are a little time sensitive and one of those I see is Reno Works um we have classes regularly and I want to make sure we don't have a break and in the action um another one is this E-Waste which is really E-Waste and hazardous waste so we have um those projects starting right in August you know we've had a whole round that were funded by Council funds but if you're actually having money to put to it then these are coming right up shortly after the budget July 1 um and then um the horse fencing we need to enter into contracts right now it's really important to get started because in August is when um they start in with diversionary feeding again and we had made a commitment to the community that we would have this fence project built uh so that we would not have this tra this trauma and challenge next fall and when I say fall it actually starts in the summer so those are three and there might be more that are time sensitive and I'd love for us to be able to move forward with some of them that are time-sensitive for a smaller amount of dollars uh while we wait for the bigger picture so that's just my thought I have many thoughts here I want to go back to the beginning but I want to start there and I want to um turn to my colleagues and see what they have to add anyone Mr Reese I did have a quick comment if I could pleas one of the things you could consider is using contingency that money is available now we now and if that's what council would want to do we would bring that back with the fourth quarter augmentation if that's you know the direction that we have and um then we could do that now with contingency but it would take it from you know other needs or things and how much is in contingency it's there's a million dollars there million dollar well then that would be a good suggestion thank you um so perhaps we could prioritize some of these one shots out of the contingency that we know that we're we have if it get to the end of the year we haven't had a emergency or something it's just sitting right okay um on to Mr Reese yes thank you madam vice mayor miss van bu and thank you for the excellent presentation and for continuing to work with us as we give feedback and then coming back and and showing us that the feedback has been heard I very much appreciate that I I find it to be an iterative process you know the budget at times can be very frustrating because you know our budget is largely our people our systems things that are already in place and so one of the things that I found in the time that I've been on Council now these past five years is that uh it is difficult to have massive changes to the budget right um our priorities are borne out over time and so I think you've done a good job of identifying those priorities and also making efforts to um fund the priorities that we find consistently over time for example Public Safety we have consistently and Madame mayor and the vice mayor and I I think have consistently um really supported increasing our police officers and providing support there some years we've been focused on construction you know constructing a new police station other years we've also really wanted to focus on our Public Safety Partners in the fire department so your budgets have allowed us to do that and I thank you for that my uh goal is continue to be really highlevel priorities in the area of um Public Safety Parks and Recreation and then the remaining priorities kind of fit under a broad category um I don't want to get super into the Weeds on this pass and I know that this has been a high level discussion but I have a couple of questions one is is I am continuing to try to figure out our our special events um it's an area where I think we have some evolution in our thoughts about special events it relates largely to programming of public spaces and also about how we um energize downtown right and how we make sure we do that I heard one of the public commenters and then I received a number of inquiries yesterday from public commenters about how we um are going to pay for some of those things and and the examples I'll give are uh flags on light poles lights uh during the holidays um different kinds of beautification effort and I want to make sure that if our Council has prioritized those as things that we're not essentially trying to have cost recovery dollar for dooll on the small business community that is supporting those efforts I want to make sure that we are supporting those efforts because I think that those are what is driving some revitalization efforts in the downtown area so um our Mr goldhammer is a good example Jamie from Pineapple Petty Cavs doing great work I want them to know that we support the efforts they're doing and so I don't want to see us passing along cost to them I know there's a cost to our city but I would rather us find ways in the budget to make sure that those costs are captured in different ways I don't know if that's through uh room tax or if that's through different kinds of buckets but I don't necessarily want to while we're trying to change our entire um thoughts about events and events planning I I don't want to go out and do it on the backs of the folks that are trying to drive that effort does that make sense yes absolutely okay um and then I in the next round I'm going to ask some questions about these opportunities for onetime funding and I'll just say in a vacuum these are all things that interest me but I don't know if there's a dollar amount that's attached to any of them or if we're because I don't know how I would prioritize this list without knowing both what we have available and what the cost is right we don't have costs on on a few of these things on here we do on some we have a kind of estimates on a few others but I don't think a good discussion can be done on this without knowing some of the costs on these ume so we're on the same page I I love we are still working on Virginia Lake we are working on um those estimates we have we old and we are working on those costs I do believe um I think fencing vice mayor der has a number on that e there's a number 7,000 yeah an East haszard dis was you had 75,000 e-waist is e-waist I had 150,000 and Reno works Reno Works currently gets $50,000 every year already and then what I had as a request was a $ 100,000 additional for Reno Works um well and miss van and my time is up and I know we've had some back and forth but all of these are important to me I think all of them are important to probably all of us or the majority of us I just don't know how to give you much Direction yet on it it's not that I'm ambivalent or don't want to give direction but I I it's harder for me to do it yeah all right so uh actually if we before we move up too much further on from from this slide and and Mr ree's comments I think the the broader perspective that we're trying to offer with this slide and and talking about the opportunities for onetime funding is that if you didn't see something that that was important to you built in to the budget for the next fiscal year we wanted you to be aware that there was going to be an opportunity to have this conversation so I don't know that today it's necessarily terribly important to rank or prioritize these onetime funding things we're just setting up the conversation for a few months down the road and we we we wanted to really make sure that we heard what the priorities are but we don't have again we can't fund everything all at once and some of these things are on the list still and we're trying to find ways to fund them and that was that's the thought process moving forward that we're still have it on the list and we're still find trying to find ways to fund them um and we will be bringing back some of these things for additional discussion okay but at least you're hearing from us on some level of at least ranking of some I think there's probably support for everything on this list in one way or another but to Mr Reese's point it's really hard to give you some concrete Direction without knowing what I'm trading off for right so let me go to council member thank you madam vice mayor um Vicki can you just go to slide five real quick please and what I want to say with this is um I do have other questions but this to me shows me that you and your team and our our staff are excellent at what they are doing because what you what you proposed and what's revised is very close and I know that takes a lot of time so thank you to everybody who is involved in this process um now I just wanted to get into a couple of questions specifically on I have to ask this because this is one of my specific priorities on on slide eight maybe this is something for Nance does this get us to our walking dedicated walking teams downtown um and here she comes I think you might have answered this last time but I'd love to hear it again absolutely uh Katherine n chief of police for the um yes and no so our dedicated walking teams came from the appointed positions that we got last year and they're in the academy and we're starting that in the summer um this is adding in so we can continue to build out uh whatever where the consultant tells us where we we're the consultant advises where we need to build out our Patrol functions maybe into investigations into Community engagement so the walking teams will have already been covered through the prior funding that we have so from last year and this year we we have been able we're going to have dedicated walking teams downtown absolutely so that's the funding last year when we talked about it it was five officers one Sergeant dedicated to downtown and one of the functions of their duties will be walking so excited thank you so much for that Vicki I have one a question for you real quick um actually I have a couple questions the RDA code enforcement is that specific to within the RDA 2 is that code enfor okay so that has to be within there and then um oped yes on the one of the very first slides we didn't fund it last year to what we wanted to yes and part of the million in savings for the total 4.5 would come from no allocation of a million dollars this year correct yes so let's say we have and this is not going to be sexy by any means but we have $10 million of onetime funding could we potentially take 2 million of that and fund OPB and why why or why wouldn't we want to do that yes you could you could choose to do that absolutely okay um we want to continue to fund OPB continuously um for two reasons because we want to eventually get to a point where we could fund all of the retiree Health out of there that's still a little ways out 10 15 years still out depending on how much we fund each year the other thing is is if we don't put any funding to it in any particular year then um the rate factor that they factor to factor in the total liability for the city which goes on our balance sheet it goes up if we don't continuously fund it a little bit and so it's kind of a trade-off but you know from a financial standpoint I will always say we need to fund oped but there's that balance because there's a balance between Council priorities the needs of the community and so that's really only that's the space that we have right now to really address a lot of the priorities and So the plan is always to get back to fund that in the future we could fund it from onetime savings we could fund it from um contingency it's not off the board technically because I'm still going to continue to bring it back to you to keep putting it in the Forefront but it's really the only opportunity I have here to present everything that's in front of you because we don't really have another source at this point okay uh yes quickly so Mr manager um miss van would you sort of describe the base budget condition for how we handle OPB now and the rationale for investing in the trust which I understand is a separate cost above and beyond yes covering the actual expense in a given year uh and the the the Strategic value of doing that is that it opens up today 8.5 million 15 years from now 125 million absolutely general fund opportunity right now we're on pigo so we have those um employees so OPB other other post employment benefits which are the retiree health benefits that some of the members get upon retirement mostly police and fire um and what happens is we have to fund those in the future forever it's part of their program when they retire and So currently we we are funding all of that through the general fund whole thing payo we're going to pay it as we go along and we're actually doing contributions to OPB as well that trust the goal in the future is we fund that trust to a point and that's usually around 50 to 60% you don't want to fund it at 100% because you know as people attrition off and people come on it you would never want it at 100% because you can never pull that money back out of there either once that goes in there it stays in and we transition and we switch over to fund all those benefits out of there that frees up the general fund from all of that funding of the the pgo so there will be a a great capacity there once we can get to that point but it's probably depending on how we can fund it could be 10 to 15 years before we actually get to that point to transition over but I do want to say we had zero in there in 2016 we started funding it and between 2016 and today8 years we have $30 million done a really good job of putting money in there and you know I think a million dollars here a million it doesn't seem like a lot but we earn interest and earnings on that as that's invested the more we can put in there the faster we can get to where we want to be and is where we want to be like at a 75% level since you said 100 around 50 to 60 I typically say 60% okay that's really good to know and I think I'm going to have to look to Matt for this I think that's around 70 million is that the right we want to get to around 70 million so we're about halfway there in eight years so for clarity there is no threat to OPB as it exists right now it's just a trade-off in the general fund and the relative opportunities that exist therein yes when we can switch to that it will create open up a world of opportuni and it goes into the trust and and we can use the money in the trust or only the interest earnings or how does that work you can use all of the money in the trust which is are the deposits and all the interest earnings because the goal of if we get it to 60% then all the interest earnings on that continue to earn and continue to pay so that's what equals out that payment in the future so you get it to that point and it fully sustains it on an ongoing basis so this was really good explanation I think uh Mr Martinez I do I do want to say that um we have Kathy McLoud and she's um on she's on hold kind of watching the meeting because I know council member reee had asked last time for an expert to talk about OPB and answer some of maybe some of the bigger questions that um you have and she is on hold if there are questions she has a quick presentation available if someone wants to see that presentation on OPB um it's uh very high level because it's very complicated as far as on the financial side of it but the gist of it is what I just told you but she is available if someone wants to hear it okay cool all right Mr Martinez thank you so much Madam vice mayor and Director Van and I appreciate all the work that you've done to get us to this point I'm wondering if you can bring up slide 17 I want to make sure I drive home a point that council member ree uh was explaining and saying that first and foremost uh our services are through our people and we want to make sure that we're taking care um of the staff that we have here um in the city and making sure that that's what is providing and making sure that we're servicing our community ities to the best of our abilities um I'm wondering if director kosy can come up and talk a little bit about The Pedestrian uh safety measures that you were talking about I know I hear a lot about that from our constituents um and I know you and I have had multiple discussions about you know influencing driver behavior in our city and how we accomplish that so I just want to make sure we're learning the most that we can about that process sure for the record krie kosy director of Public Works a city engineer um very excited about um bringing this senior civil to to the to the council and like you said we've had many conversations I think all of you have had conversations about pedestrian safety back in 2019 um just as a refresher the council did um adopt a resolution basically that supported the vision zero which means that we would um the goal of that was to eliminate pedestrian fatalities by 2030 to we have been working on that I've got a fabulous team since the the city manager um supported the the department um uh dispersement basically into the into the four different departments we have really had the opportunity to kind of dive in to datadriven decisions and I and this particular person here would be most helpful putting together um the team and I need someone to lead and manage that and I think uh I think for the community we keep hearing over and over about um engineering infrastructure controls for safety there's a certain amount that we can we can do we've got hotspots we know that where those are we know that they're around schools around hospitals um Regional centers we're going to focus on those those sort of areas first and um I'm just I'm just excited I'm I'm very excited to have some additional help to kind of get us over the over the Finish Line as am I I appreciate you sharing some of that with us um the other point in my last 20s something seconds I want to make is uh the street banners and the polls I know we've heard from the Midtown uh Merchants Association and I think there's a representative from the Wells Avenue Merchant Association uh business as well so uh just making sure that we're sensitive to that and um that we're not passing along any additional costs uh to our associations that make sure that we have a thriving Community thank you you're welcome all right all right how about you miss breus thank you miss van Bean um where is the list of the staff compliment in each department did did we get that it was with the uh meeting on March 18th we had all the um or charts were attached to that meeting cuz one question I had was the river Rangers I thought we already had those in so are we upping it to a team of four we do not currently have any River Rangers we never budgeted for those no we had Park Rangers which were a little different oh okay so they joined that compliment are they which B bargaining group are they in that I'm not sure that would be more of an HR yeah I'm just wondering so we'd bring two River Rangers on in addition to the park rangers hi there at Norman sanoo HR Director they are local 39 okay okay and so they're not commission then okay and then um again um the league of cities are they budgeted in here the city's membership um I'm G have to look to Lindsay for that I believe they're in the are they in the council's budget I believe so yes so I asked last year and you my recollection is said they were in last year but the manager never pay made that payment and so we're not a member of the league of cities nationally or in Nevada and so I think that when we go through a budget exercise and an allocation in a department is put in it needs to follow through and I think the council is lacking on its accountability and followup um on and that's one example A lot of it is positions too for example we never budgeted you know under the Civil Service rules or the charter the city manager by July 1 sends in an organ chart Staffing compliments but that gets changed and changed and changed an example is creating a third city manager it was done someone was hired I don't know if there was recruitment or someone was just called up and said but then it's there's no council oversight on that it only occurs when you come up and it's in our you know materials going down the state on an augmentation so I just want to call up to the council again there was even an expansion this year of not exercising your oversight of how you budget and that is um problematic and flawed and um you know puts your respon our responsibilities at arms length and that in addition to the Embargo to meet with the um City uh Finance director quarterly has been very difficult and you know prevents me and us from I think doing our jobs so that's a that's a tough one one question is does this contemplate any sale of properties to build this budget no it does not okay and then just to translate to my colleagues my feeling is last year I didn't support the budget because we did not pay the OPB and I will not support with my vote a budget that does not build is built not one-time money not rollover not contingency the OPB I was here in 2016 coming out of the very difficult circumstance that the city got their themselves into and as part of the unwinding was some fiscal responsibility Provisions that we put into place and it was so sad to me to see those um pivoted by the council last year so I won't support a budget that doesn't build OPB it would be a tough one for me because I'd like to catch up to the 2 million and I would put that in before positions so thank you all right thank you and then uh Madame mayor I did you have some comments online I do thank you um okay quick question let's see big thank you so much um I'm so impressed but I mean not surprised because you're so good at what you do so thank you for everything because I think you really really listened and I'm so appreciative couple of questions I want to ask you you mentioned the forensics analysis or um I think it's a forensics crime analysis um analyst uh is that could that or is that also part of a Cold Case analyst um because in the past we've tried to fund them they've been very underfunded I think cold cases are really important especially with today's technology um oftentimes DNA can be um you know some of these cases can be solved because of the new technology so I would love to see is that the same or is that different I I believe that is different and I will ask Chief Nance to come up and explain that I do believe this came up last year and we' potentially put some funding toward it if if I recall correctly um the discussion on it was it's it's very costly and they have a lot of cold cases and so trying to determine the priorities of those based on very small funding it's a very challenging space and so I'm going to ask Chief n to kind of talk on that okay so uh Chief n for the record I the two positions that are being funded are a crime analyst position which can help in all avenues of crime whether it's um previously existing crime or crime that's happening right now and will help us with that data uh Recreation and then the uh forensics side of that is a lot so that we can do our own scene processing and then manage fingerprint uh evidence that we have the equipment for now and Ballistic evidence in house so it's um releasing us from some of the stuff that we're sending over to was County at this point as far as the Cold Case uh questions go the buildout of adding um officers to this and the um knowing that we're now Staffing downtown we're creating this Patrol Staffing model that is a little bit different when we add these officers in it's going to allow us to add into investigations and to different places which once we fill these vacant positions will increase our ability to have additional investigators which will expand our ability to have the Cold Case side of it as far as the DNA evidence goes and the need for funding of that uh a lot of that can be covered and we have sent multiple cases out this year uh for DNA analysis and to continue those investigations so we are actively working several cold cases that um are have been prioritized uh based on the ability to identify the evidence in them um and then we have had the ability to send those uh cases out for DNA examin um and we're not sure what the results are going to be obviously but we'll continue to evaluate those as they come back so are the cold cases a priority then because it sounds like this is sort of all-encompassing because there's a lot going on here because you're talking about DNA you're talking about prime analysts but like specifically to cold cases because I still think there should be a part-time position or some um some allocation dedicated strictly to cold cas fun funds um in the past I've put some of my contingency funds to certain cases of DNA but I think it should be specific so that it's not fragmented what's your thought we do have uh some specific uh retirees that are working on cold cases currently and we are prioritizing the needs of those we do not have a dedicated uh Cold Case Investigator at this juncture part of that is because of the vacancies that we do have in the department and we have 13 uh investigative positions that are vacant currently that we're hoping to fill either with people that are coming out of the academy in this cycle or through the next cycle so that once those current vacancies are filled we'll able to put more energy into things that happen in the past unfortunately with the Staffing levels and investigations right now with the priorities being Patrol uh downtown and making sure that those are fully staffed the investigation inside of it is more challenging and as we build that out and fill those vacancies we will have more ability to investigate cold cases yeah I just worried because I would imagine I mean you would know this better than I would I'm not a police officer but obviously I would imagine with cold cases especially you know if those um crimes are not solved typically I would think that the propensity for someone to continue to commit crimes would be similar so I always look at it as a a prevention as well so but it also sounds like and correct me if I'm wrong that you have dedicated retire police officers in that space at least part time anyway currently we do yes okay and um and that will stay the same correct none none of that is changing and um and as these cases that we've identified has becoming higher priority based on um investigative abilities right now um come to the surface and those can change at any given time for a variety of reasons uh we do dedicate resources to that to ensure that we are um working on them so it's not that it's not a priority it's just that it's one of the many priorities of the investigative team okay thank you so much I think um vice mayor I probably exhausted my time I have more questions probably like everyone else does so I will send it back to you all right thank you and and we're going to do you know some extra round whatever whatever it takes to get through through this um but I want to follow up on your point Madame mayor I think it is really important to work on the cold cases and one idea that we could propose we were informed by our budget director Finance director that we do have money and contingency and I think it would only maybe take a 100 Grand to get started on these cold cases at least that's what I understand from staff and maybe that's that's a way of of getting there you know starting to get there I mean and I I think that's something we could ask staff to look at definitely thank you okay and and um Vicki is nodding yes so on my list very vice mayor okay thank you and then for my myself I um you know I have a couple buckets that I just wanted to talk about and since no one's talked about it yet I um I thought that we should um talk a little bit about sustainability and that includes the trees as well um I had asked staff about adding to our budget for tree maintenance and that's something we can contract out without outing a staff I had suggested 100 gr but that's just a sort of a a Target it could be less it could be more um but in this I the reason I and and the other thing is that um we lost a tree inspector a long time ago in the recession a lot of my work just for our other council members for 10 years I've been trying to build back things we lost that's why I worked on the historic resources person we once had them we lost them Landscape Maintenance I mean landscape archit Tech we lost them uh we're halfway there uh we uh looked at um you know adding uh some additional positions that we lost and one of those is this tree inspector so I don't know what it would be called in today's job description but it's a position that we're just trying to recapture another example is a Parks planner and we started that back with the um ARA funds you know we we got a Parks Planner on staff for two years with Grant funds and I think the idea is to into picking that up in a couple years with general fund dollars so um why am I talking about this well just today there was an article uh about air quality and uh the title of the article I was just going to bring it up is says Reno makes worst air quality list in annual report card so not only are we the fastest warming but now our air quality and I've known that we haven't met air quality standards for 40 years um and this is a job of the Northern Nevada Health District to Monitor and they are um in this article and it is brought up time and again in the article that trees are one of the biggest ways we can address it and the air quality matters and I'll just give you a quick example Once Upon a Time um Starbucks was looking at putting in a manufacturing facility here and once they looked at where our air quality was it became apparent that they were going to add have to add a lot of things on their manufacturing to clean up the air um and it was too expensive what was being required of them it was basically their project and taking us back they ended up moving down to Minden and it's just uh this air quality analysis takes in US Carson City and Fernley as a big region and the big issue is particulates and um ozone and so I would just like to us to continue focusing on I know we've been working on it for 10 years you know since we started relief Reno but it's it's more important than ever with Reno continuing to top the charts is the fastest warming and Reno also topping the charts for bad air quality these two things are tied and I would just like us to to see us add some things that are in the sustainability plan that we haven't been able to address in either ordinance or additional Staffing we we did get a person to work with Suzanne which was awesome but we need to take a next step in my opinion so uh I'm also o over but I just they this ties a few boxes for me it's a tree maintenance I had recommended 100K um a tree inspector which is just a re recovering a lost position and again the last thing in the sustainability World I'd like to add is to work on EV charging this is something we' brought up for about five years um and it's it's very current in my mind because yesterday I went to what's being called the greenest building in Reno and that is a brand new building that was designed by cathexis it's an apartment complex and it has reached what's called lead gold standard has water conservation solar panels Energy Efficiency uh you name it they put it in there and apparently for not much more cost than it takes to build any other apartment building so what they did do is they put in 25% of their parking lot for EV charging and we don't have an ordinance on that today um we don't have a plan it's it's later it's planned to be later but I think those are some things I'd like to see move up on the list all all right back to you um and I know that uh council member ree had mentioned to me wanting to know more about OPB and I didn't know were you actually wanting the full presentation or were you want to just make comments or well I have some comments about it um and then we'll see Miss where are if our expert needs to jump in okay um and so uh obviously I think opep is a very complicated issue it's it perhaps maybe is going to outstrip our ability to have a a coherent conversation in this format so maybe what I would propose is that we have a maybe a standalone briefing on OPB so that people feel um that they have enough information to make the evaluation for my part I will not support a budget this year that funds OPB and the reason why is because it's a we've had some flat and down year budgets are relatively flat I'll just say the last several years primarily related to our going through and then coming out of covid um and it is a very important thing to meet our obligations to retire e health no doubt but there's lots of different ways that that's done and and certainly we didn't dig the hole in the few short years that we've been here we're essentially dealing with the fact that prior council iterations did not fund it at a certain level and also there's a changing way in which uh Accounting Standards have changed gasby has certainly changed around oped also our Actuarial understanding of what those unfunded liabilities are evolves over time as our Workforce changes and so like you I I think you're being very kind to say that yes in a very fiscally mature way we would fund it every year to some extent but there are also years in which we just have to um sort of double down on our other priorities I'm not suggesting that we should never fund OPB ever again uh that would be foolish but I'm also saying that we have to use the tools we have in the toolbox and be thoughtful and responsive to the economic conditions we find ourselves in so were we in a year where we're having Banner years yeah let's fund it and and maybe catch up but it doesn't have to be the straw that breaks the camels back in any one particular year and and like I said I just think that given our flat year this year it is a unnecessary expense that we could use elsewhere to fund our priorities um the second thing is I want to address and and really it's because we're having some iterative conversation up here on the Das is I I do not believe that we are getting any benefit out of the national or out of the league of cities we have funded our obligations to the National Organization I understand there's a difference of opinion or agreement about whether we should fund the league of cities here within the state we just are not getting anything out of the relationship and we haven't for some time so I'd rather take the money that we did not pay last year and the money that we could pay this year Cobble that together and use it for something we really actually need so I did want to comment on that staff did to look it up we are current with national league they were paid we are current members yeah the national league it's a dis we're having between us and the Nevada League of cities and we should withdraw from that we we do not get anything out of the um relationship the lobbying effort that we uh have paid for has not resulted in any measurable uh thing for us we have good people in house to run those programming um Miss wiy and Mr saone can handle that without us being involved in that organization that said I think we could take that $100,000 and fund some of the great priorities that um the vice mayor has talked about um and again going forward we should not be paying for the league of cities we can use that money for the River Walk improvements that we're looking for for the baskets uh and the flags and how much is it I think combined it would be about $100,000 $50,000 for the Nevada yeah $50,000 okay so it's 50 last year that we've not paid because we've told them we're not paying it and 50,000 next year we shouldn't be paying it in either year um as to uh other comments made by my colleagues I I'll of course my the sentiment raised by the mayor about cold cases um the chief and I have met I don't know six seven times on this topic she knows we're very uh interested in seeing these uh matters progress and I believe she has a plan for that so I'm con I'm confident that the um police chief knows that we have placed some priority here and that we can make measurable impacts into those things both through the hiring process and also the testing uh process um and so happy that my colleagues are similarly minded and find importance in this area uh but again I'll just say that I Know Chief Nance knows that it's a priority for us and I trust that she has a plan to get us there um now the last thing I'll say with the time that I have remaining is I have looked at this the opportunities for one-time funding and I know that we weren't really trying to like vote on a specific thing today we're more just giving direction uh for my part I think um on this list at least I'm incredibly important to me is rise in karma box and making sure that we have a long-term sustainable path for how to support those two organizations doing great work I'd actually like to see US expand our work with uh rise especially but probably both of them if I knew more about what we've been doing and what could change to make it improved but that's important um I think there's also room to um improve our access to E-Waste disposal uh council member der and I think I and maybe some others have specifically had to allocate Council funds for those things to happen because we'd rather see those things end up uh where they're being recycled and dealt with an environmentally conscious way than found out in the desert which I think is what sometimes happens with those kind of things um and then I I'm very interested in the Riverwalk improvements that you've identified here and more broadly the downtown Hardscape improvements that are being talked about uh this the purple e stuff needs to be changed uh and and could definitely be done uh with some of the dollars here and then the last thing I'll say but it's not on this list but I think could be important and we could maybe use the Nevada League of cities money for it is fire cons uh consultant to help us analyze consolidation of fire um I think that's an important area that is not identified on here but could be the use for those monies very cool all right um council member Tor thank you madam vice mayor um I'm going to ask some questions about specific positions just to get a little bit more information on them and I think I'll probably need some um information from the directors on the river Rangers I am the way I understand it is these are specifically dedicated to the River Walk for those for those um enforcement activities or whatever activities they are different from Park Rangers so we don't have anybody that's dedicated to the river right now if I understand correctly that's my understanding but I'm going to call up uh our director for that thank you thanks for the question Nathan La parks recreation director for the record we don't have any that are dedicated to the river but it has been the area of focus over over the last year um and currently we're limited to 5 days of coverage with the three Park Rangers that we have so adding this would allow us to move to a 7-Day coverage and keep momentum in the areas that we've kind of turned the corner on so this gets us to seven days a week with with coverage on the river specifically yeah well the two positions will allow us to move to that with the with the three positions we currently have fantastic there's the park rangers then the two dedicated River Rangers great and then um I think I see Mr Woodley with the code enforcement um folks the addition of that can those be um Can those positions help with some of the downt ACT nightly activities with the addition of overt that we see will that will that help some of the concerns that we've heard about with noise and um compliance with scps yes ma'am Alex Woodley for the record director of Code Enforcement you're absolutely correct ma'am whenever we have an additional resource we have the ability to move and shift uh duties and assignments accordingly and we do know that downtown is an area that we need more code enforcement so we will be looking at that yes ma'am great thank you so much um so much good news and then my last question question or question is I think for Miss wisman there's a position in here for housing and neighborhood development and the way I thought I understood it it was specifically for the neighborhood cleanups does this position do more than that or what what exactly are are the functions of this position um yes thank you for the question Ela wisman housing manager for the record um yes this would be specifically to organize facilitate and um run the clean cups um that is recruiting and managing volunteers going through um procurement for the vendors um and then also the Bloomberg grant that we just received this would um position would be heavily involved with the um Civic engagement that comes along with that Grant to actually build the program in the future and these cleanups excuse me are are very well attended I mean we get a lot of we get a lot of community participation form so I think this is a good good fit um Madam vice mayor I just wanted to make one comment on the onetime funding stuff I don't think I would I don't know if I heard right but I wouldn't be supportive of any positions for one-time funding just because that would be something that we wouldn't be able to um sustain in the further years but would need to know more about it thank you so much I wasn't aware there were positions in this onetime funding so maybe I missed that point Oh I thought you were asking for uh different more positions and sustainability with onetime funding I Mis I was asking for them to be put into the budget because a position can't be you're absolutely right in onetime funding oh did I guess I didn't understand where you wanted it to come from yeah uh I haven't identified a resource but um I think that's it's important to make some inroads so but I wanted to follow up on one quick thing you just said the last thing you said was about the ew and hazardous waste I had heard that you know we're we're about half the places we're doing cleanups are having Ean hazardous and half for not um and I heard that people brought hazardous to the ones that we weren't and they were disappointed and I think that the danger there is taking something they absolutely love and turning it into something they're very unhappy about and so that's a danger that we don't want to go down that path we want to keep them you know our residents very satisfied and I think it's too complicated to Signal which places have this and that and it should just be the same so it's a further support of what you're saying uh Mr Martinez thanks so much Madam vice mayor I would Echo the comment that was just made about E-Waste I know I hear from constituents about you know cleanups that happened 10 12 years ago and still the impacts and influence and Good Vibes that folks felt when that happened in their neighborhoods and so I want to make sure that we're supportive of that I had a quick question about one of the fees um the zone change amendment to SPD or PUD including handbook review and certification of the handbook it looks like this is a new fee and just curious what the fee was before uh for that and kind of the reasoning behind that you know which department that one was in is that code enforcement it looks like Mr pingry is coming up development services development services yes almost good afternoon Chris pingry for the record can you please repeat that question so I can pull up the proper document yeah of course it's on page 20 of of our fee schedule under development services the second to last one zone change amendment to SPD or PUD it says adding new section for existing feline to differentiate between new and Amendment applications application amendments charge at 50% of the new SPD or PUD fee just curious if there was a fee currently for any of those amendments happening or if this is a new no this was a fee going back to correct that it would have started back at the getting if they were to come in to amend that fee this gave an a currently uh produced document that we could go back in and give them that same $6,400 fee in order to reinstate or change what was U what was done to that Amendment or SPD and this would be only for Approved handbooks that would need an amendment correct okay cool just want to make sure I understood um that part uh specifically I did have a question for you director ramuan about the timeline you spoke to us about when we can make our priorities for the opportunities for one-time funding uh in August but I just wanted to know about the con contingency funds and when would we be able to do our advocating and priority setting for that well in the in the current year budget we have a million dollars in that contingency fund that we have not allocated out so far and so that um potentially from this discussion here um manager could put forward that based on the discussion using some of those funds and we could allocate that in the fourth quarter which would come back in June so we it would be funds available immediately and then if you were to look at even using contingency from next year we have a million dollars budgeted for that too so that would be available immediately if there are immediate needs that are you feel are immediate at that point that would be available when that budget's adopted too okay yeah I just want to make sure I'm providing the input when the Tim is right so thank you so much for clarifying that just a followup could we backfill like let's say you just said we could use this million that we have now but then we could potentially borrow in advance from contingency but we could pay it back from when we understand how much is left at the end of the year is that right uh not necessarily that's like putting it on a credit card CU that budget Nota okay uh okay so but once that budget's adopted July 1 those funds exist and the budget is approved well the budget's approved May 30 sorry May 22nd when you approve that budget becomes effective July 1 so those funds are available on July 1st but not prior to that just because the budget is not in the for this coming year yes for the coming year understood okay thank you uh council member breus okay um you know I don't need the presentation on the opab I was here when we started all and I understand differing you know philosophies of it this isn't for those watching it's not much difference from household budgeting you know for me the oped was always saving for retirement and it does that so it helps the outer years but it also um you know getting your current year to obligated is how you get in trouble and we've been in trouble you know households go on bankruptcy cities don't but we were darn close and so I'm always um like to pay off ahead rather than inflate today which may take us out of the where we're in just to counter something else is my understanding is we cannot be a member of the National League of cities unless we are a member of the Nevada League of cities so maybe someone could fact check that because if they're saying we're paying for National League of cities the national league of cities is saying well you're not a member because you've blown off your state chapter then you know let's let's figure that out and I understand other people want to join other organizations maybe see more value in those um you know that they use with their discretionary and their travel um uh attention but um to me the National League of cities really is the predominant force in the country to represent cities uh you know just it's it's kind of undisputable undeniable so leave that aside um I I oh and in terms of the contingency you know that's just a million dollars that rolls over you know I mean that's how I always think it if we've always budget a million it's not onetime money it's just a rollover money that's how I always look at that but I really want to understand um some discussion on the police um Department budget and obviously we have a new Chief and I've had an embargo for two years uh to talk and meet with her quarterly so I may be behind on things but this concept about her having people on contract um we used to get a a readout of all the contracts that were signed so we could see what contracts were going on and if she has contracts with retirees or other groups those are things that maybe have skated over my head because I haven't been seeing those contracts likewise you know I mentioned how we hadn't received um accounts payable for six months they used to come on the agenda those are gone I mentioned that at meeting two meetings ago and then got six months of accounts payable which is probably five hours of review uh so if we could be more timely on that but um Chief I want to ask you you have this cpsm study that you inherited when you came on now you have Matrix more on operational deployment but I'm I'm seeing a couple things and I I only have 30 seconds so I'll end and then let you aners one is I feel that you know I asked before where's the path to our forensics lab because we we agreed we haven't had a workshop on that we agreed to contract with the county for forensics at the same time you're setting up that lab and I said where's the plan because it feels like if we add positions for your lab that you're standing up where we're still budgeting and committed to that contract with the county I really just want to know the plan cuz we're we're investing heavily in this and then last one is um you mentioned your six positions that we budgeted last year are not out yet on Academy we're adding positions to come in midy year okay I really want and then you mentioned other vacancies and I'm going to ask specifically as followup to this meeting for a list of all budgeted right now but vacant positions and the status of those are they out for recruitment or so on but Chief I starting to see um police forces out there taking a step back from adding positions at budgeting because the body supply the Staffing Supply just isn't out there in the world and I want to know if you're there because I think departments are starting to go in other ways of building an apparatus around that um so those are the questions is one um you know what do you have on contract uh to do you know those other services or maybe follow up on all outstanding contract you have I received a copy because I didn't know about it of your Matrix scope and I read that scope of services so I understand it now but it it didn't come to me without me looking for it so where are you you know what's the plan on standing up the forensics um you know do you have a plan written up what's your vacancies are you rethinking vacancies because you just can't get the bodies in and um also what is the contract on these other services that you referenced I I'm not real sure what you mean by the contract on the other services I'll start with the other two maybe we can go back to those sure um so for the forensics plan the plan is that we came to council um last year with a grant um a onetime appropriation grant for forensic services and that is essentially going to be for fingerprint and for gun testing so Ibis so we will be doing those in housee the additional person that we are adding into this the uh forensic team person they will take on a role of both um crime scene investigation and also and or fingerprints or ballistics and so they'll each have a specialty that they'll do and we able to do those things in house which will pull those away from the wo County Sheriff's Office doing those things for us uh so that's the buildout plan right now for forensics it could grow but that's what we have the capabilities of doing on our own currently and that's what we'll continue to do to keep those things house as far as hiring no I am not concerned about hiring I have an exceptional recruitment happening right now um just last week uh we launched a new recruiting website and we had 50 new applicants at the launch of that I will have 26ish people in the academy next cycle which uh I will for reference in case you don't know if that's great or not great when I started we had eight people in the academy uh at that Academy time so I'm getting 20 26 in each Academy we had 19 in the January Academy 26 in this Academy we do have attrition we are facing the fact that people are retiring they are reaching age to retire or medical reasons why they retire and we have to continue to fill those positions but we have been very successful both in our recruitment of new officers and our recruitment of laterals I think by July I should have nine lateral hires which is almost unheard of for the Reno Police Department to have in a six-month period so I'm very proud of that and they're doing great all seven of the laterals that we hired in January are coming out of uh training now and passing training and they're going out on their own which is phenomenal and with that that's how we're able to move into that downtown team that we uh dedicated last year at Council where we talked about at that time that these hires were going to have to go to the academy and then go to training you're probably not going to see them until the fall well because I was able to hire laterals we're able to get that team moving out a little faster we do have to deal with attrition constantly we do have vacant positions we operate at uh about 7% which is pretty good for police departments most of them are in the 20 to 25% range and after we uh start this Academy in July we will be at about 3% which is perfect you're going to always see vacancies in a police department as big as ours over 350 officers yeah we're we're going to have vacancies but we're filling them and I'm very comfortable with the number of officers that we asked for in this funding mechanism that we'll be able to fund those and fill those positions in January so I mean the final question was just that one the mayor referenced you have some reti you have some people on contract we do hire and we utilize part-time employees those are that's normal yeah and so we have part-time employees that come in and do a lot of different things we also have some employees that are volunteers like our save volunteers cadetes things like that we have a lot of different types of employees that don't necessarily make up our full-time employee positions I thought you mentioned you had some some of our retirees on contract where working on cold cases or something like that that's what I thought I heard I'll just I'll just ask for all the contracts you have outstanding I just it's it helps give a complexion for me of understanding we have a lot of contracts a lot of different things so for me to go through them line by line would be really challenging from memory sorry well some of them I know better some of them I don't we're move I could just the one thing is I I do understand that the plan to move away from Washo county is is really just on those two items you mentioned there is no written plan to go further and steps further it's not drafted anywhere it's hard for us to decide where how far we're going to take that out based on funding um availability of space people so as we continue to grow we can build a plan out better knowing what our next steps are it's not something that I don't have an an endless stream of funding where I'm I had onetime money through a grant that we were able to accomplish those two things so we're going to continue to evaluate how do we do there what's our next steps what can we take from County effectively um and what can we continue to do in house okay and I think the council should be involved in all of those discussions well it's it's good to get an update on that for sure I really appreciate what you gave us and uh before we go to Madame mayor I just want to let everyone know the plan we're going to take a uh 30 minute break after the mayor um gets her questions asked and answered on this round um I had a couple requests from Council Members so Madame mayor do you um have a next round of questions or comments I do I do thank you um I wanted to dive in I have several here but like I said I don't want to take up everyone time and I know you guys are all no you're fine I mean this is what we're here for okay I want to talk about River Rangers you said two allocations and I was just wanting to know can you be clear Vicki because I know that um the flood project said that they were going to fund to and I'm also going to ask for two Rangers from RTC rcba Tuma County Sparks Reno that would make a total I think 12 to 14 because I really want to see a comprehensive plan for the river for safety and sustainability um and we've talked about this for a long time so can you clarify because I was under the impression that um our Representatives thank you so much um M Miguel I believe councilman Martinez and vice mayor der are over there and we were allocated to from flood so can you clarify if those are from flood or if they're from the City of Reno yes these two positions would be dedicated from the City of Reno and I'm going to let um the director of parks here talk to the the compliment and how that would look as far as that team because the other positions do exist that you were talking about but he has all the specifics on that but the two in this budget would be our addition to that Reno funding yes all right I just wanted to make sure because I thought these were funded by flood okay um Madame mayor we we do have Nathan one to jump in here I I I will tell you my understanding this is two new ones from Reno the two from flood are still in discussion going to come up at our next flood board meeting so that would be four and then Nathan already has three Park Rangers and uh so if assuming this all comes together there would be seven right and he wants to go to 7-Day coverage so over to you Nathan and then another opportunity on the horizon is the the uh county is considering putting in an item in a future agenda to fund two positions as well so that might be nine within a few months possibly right yep I would ask rcba RTC as well which um you know they know I've been talking about this for a long time so everyone sort of has a heads up now what that looks like moving forward you know where it lives um how it breathes might be a totally different discussion I just at this time want to collectively get everyone together to get this initiative going because we've talked about for so long so now it's time to pull the trigger I just wanted clarity thank you so much Nathan and Vicki for dedicating those two because I think it's hard for us to ask other jurisdictions and partners for two if we don't step up first and do I guess our2 but I was under the impression that flood had already funded it and so I just wanted Clarity that this was not the flood allocation which is fine it sounds like um councilman Martinez and and vice mayor derer sit over there and we'll advocate for that which is fantastic but other than that um I just wanted to CL because I wasn't sure so thank you okay anything more mayor oh yeah I got I've got um fee schedules light poles Reno Works um all right this is helpful okay this is helpful I I thought you did and I think we all do have at least another round in us um what I'd like to do uh before we take our break is we have two comments from the public which I want to get them uh opportunity to speak before we break so they don't have to wait for us to come back so Madam clerk could you thank mayor we have janess Carter and Jamie Chapman okay who are you calling janess yeah first time it's your first time so just say your name hi this moves this one right here yeah so you can speak right in thank you uh my name is janess Carter I'm the vice president the Wells Avenue District owner of beautiful nails Midtown Reno and an event organizer in the SVP also known as the South Virginia plaza where you find places like Mario's porino and Sports West and my business beautiful nails and I'm here in opposition of I believe it's budget item D1 to the proposed Banner fees the the district the district gives businesses and owners uh gives business owners owners and community members a sense of belonging and pride like a team we're our City's cheerleaders we pull people together and the Banners are a great way to help with that energy each district consists of a small group of people that want to see growth in our community the majority of the district members are not in a position to fund the district but work hard to gain funds for beautification and bringing the community together together with and Outsiders to Reno with special events we have a limited budget that is to last us for a year and we already give our time and energy for free to our city that we love in a focused area to create a big impact we raise money to get these banners done and put them up and we maintain them it does not seem fair to charge us for banners we work hard to put up by raising money on weal specifically the actual light Poes themselves were part of a district movement a different part of Vegas or California having this fee may make sense because they have different resources and member member participation and it's hard enough already to get 10 people in a district involved to put in this work minimally it would be $188,000 for a calendar year this is like five times our budget for the Wells Avenue District um the city fees would already be more than who we hire for the services currently to put them up I am personally someone who works hard in my city and with past involvement with Midtown district and current work with the Wells Avenue district and organizing special events for fellow businesses in the South Virginia Plaza I don't get paid for this work but it's gratifying to see the inspiration that it brings to our city things like this in my world hurt and it's like a blow I feel strongly that the districts will will agree to not utilize the polls because this would not be something that we' be able to to afford in the event that that happens then it would be sad to see a random advertisements placed there and in place of community representation these polls are not a cost to the city as far as we know or something maybe that we can consider talking about I ask that you please consider the hard work of the few to bring energy to the many and thank you to Devon Ree and to Miguel Martinez for understanding how this would affect us as a whole and if it's possible to postpone this or a decision on this it would be nice to possibly get all the districts together so that we can maybe come up with ideas on how we can work together on that cuz it kind of came as a surprise sure great job thank you so much for being here thank you all right Jamie Chapman followed by Britain Griffith via Zoom hi guys okay I'm Jamie Chapman the executive director of Midtown Reno as well as a small business owner I own tribal pineapple and pineapple Petty caps but today I'm here to speak with you as the executive director of Midtown to talk about the banner poll fees proposed in the 2425 budget which threaten to severely impact our district and small businesses we support I know I've already talked to several of you um and I appreciate you guys speaking out today and your openness for um hearing us I know that city council probably doesn't know all the things that Midtown does so I want to take this opportunity to tell you a little bit about the cool things that we have going on so in Midtown we make every doll count we bring the community together with free events like dancing in the streets and we invest in keeping our neighborhood clean and vibrant just this week we partnered with the bin trash ball to clean and maintain our big bellies clean up graffiti and um clean the sidewalks and I'm super happy to announce that we just got approved for a grant to bring uh cigarette receptacles to Midtown that will be installed hopefully soon we're waiting for them any day uh so we take our responsibility to keep Midtown clean and approachable seriously during our last Midtown cleanup with ktmb we had over 120 volunteers that picked up 2500 lbs of trash and we planted 500 flowers in our flower beds so we also purchased and installed 100 snowflakes throughout Midtown in the last two years this installation of snowflakes in 2023 cost Midtown $5,000 that's not even the cost I was just install them to install them and um as you probably know snc and the City of Reno have been working the last few months to install the new cross street banners that will display the welcome to Midtown banners later this month so back to the reason I'm here the proposed budget of $15 per light pole per month within 85 installation and removal fee per pole the $35 cross street B Banner pole per month installation with removal fee of $150 and the $15 per big belly trash can signage P fee per month with $50 installation removal fees per big belly trash can and then the $155 application fees for each of these every time they're changed now this might not sound like a lot when you break it down like that however under these new proposed fees and charges that $15 per month per poll with installation costs and application fees would cost Midtown $ 35,320 a year the $35 per Street Banner fee with application installation would cost $2,450 a year and the big belly trash can signage permit fees would cost Midtown $2,888 a year that totals $ 63,64 which is $533 a month in fees that Midtown a nonprofit would be um responsible for paying not only do we not have this W keep going keep wrap up okay not only do we have not have this in our budget we were largely funded by Midtown membership dues I cannot tell Midtown partners that I'm using their dues to pay for welcome banners and snowflakes if these fees are implemented it would not be finan it would be financially impossible for us to continue these projects our banners and snowflakes would have to come down and the promotional activities on the big belly trash cans would end which would mean the brand new cross street banners that everybody's worked so hard to get would remain empty thank you so much Jamie we we definitely got the um and I wanted to tell you too I didn't say in my early comments but I got your letter and I it was the first thing I talked about staff this morning at N9 o'clock so thank you cool I appreciate it thank you guys all right we're going to go to the online comment I think it's Brit Griffith via Zoom good afternoon um I'm on right okay good afternoon vice mayor mayor council members and staff uh for the record my name is Britain Griffin I speaking today on behalf of the Riverwalk District as their President we serve and represent nearly 70 members and our Community Partners In addition to a member of our Reno District Coalition so a quick thank you so much to Wells and mam for being representative today I am here virtually to express our concerns regarding the budget item D1 I won't go into length at this because we really appreciate how much thought you guys have already discussed this into the meeting but just to go over the banner fees that are proposed we have been working dig diligently to make tangible placemaking improvements in our districts to bring awareness branding and Community cohesion a main way we have access to this type of infrastructures through banners and light pole improvements and installations since we've only heard about this new proposed fee last night that would establish these fees we do not know all the specifics but we are asking today that you put into some thought to repr cautions this fee that the districts would have to take on we do run on nominal thin budgets and many of us pay for items in our district out of our own Pockets to contribute back to our home this new fee which is we understand it would be a cost to you of banners other signage and perhaps even inhibit the um use of flower por pots like we have in um downtown Renault thank you again all today for your input particularly uh council member Rees and Miguel Martinez we appreciate you we understand that through studies pilot programs around the world how much directional and Community signage adds to an experience and a presence and positive sense of place we know this to be true through our personal experiences in Reno look at what some Rogue overnight banners for startup row did to spark the Innovation and entrepreneurial spirit in downtown the flowers that we hang along are light Poes for guests and residents and the special permanent art pieces that find homes throughout the Arts districts make reeno one of a kind to in all these type of uh fees into districts that are run by nonprofits and Grassroots individuals would be unsustainable and we would have to take down our banners and additional improvements our hope today is that we can simply look at this item together and the negative impact that it would have it would cause loss of current enhancements in our neighborhood and we look forward to working together to bring more Community signage that will benefit everyone and a great path for even more permanent P placemaking our Coalition believes in compassionate Commerce and it has been such a fortunate time to build better working together as a team for our districts and that includes the city's help and the county so we appreciate your time today thank you so much all right thank you so much to all three speakers on this issue uh it will really help us put the budget together so thanks for making time um well at now we are going to take a half hour break uh we'll come back right around uh 12:45 so I uh we want to be fresh and the mayor's told us she still has a lot on her plate to go over with us so we'll see you back we'll be in recess to 12:45 e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e all right Madame clerk just tell us when you're ready Madame vice mayor we are all right Madame vice mayor if you're ready to call the meeting back to order we're all set to go all right staff I know we're having a good time which is awesome but we're going to get back to business and I don't know uh Madame clerk if uh Madame mayor is with this Madame mayor is not on at the moment okay so but I will let you know as soon is um that changes so we're reconvening at 12:49 at this time oh yeah council member breus is absent and mayor shivi is absent we'll move back into questions good um so where we ended was that uh mayor shibi uh opined and then we had some public comment um and we're opening another round I know mayor shivi said she had at least five more things to ask about um and I'm going to skip my turn for now there I think there are a few more things I've got on my list let me just get my notes together one sec here it is well I think I'll go ahead and ask this question actually one of the things that I'm very excited about is that we are going to be opening the pool and there's a good a pretty decent budget in there for pool operations and would you mind pulling up that slide um however there's a however there's two things I'm a little bit worried about and I'm just going to voice them and I know this is just a swag or a best guess on what we'll need for Staffing but um I'm I'm just concerned making sure we have enough people to do all the things and what I'm worried about is that uh I wanted to know what the proposed pool hours are so so that the Staffing we understand what we're buying and what what I know is that in any complement of Staffing people go on vacation people get sick there's always about a 20% vacancy even with a full compliment of staff and what I don't want to see is the pool hours impacted I already hear a lot of comments uh from the other pools well the pool closes at 5 or after the certain swim lap then they're closed for the afternoon and I'm just hoping in this case that you know we got a brand new facility that we're not going to be shutting it let's say at 4: when it could stay open till 7: or even 10: so if you could just address that Nathan turn us over to Nathan thank you for the question Nathan olot Parks and Recreation director for the record uh so what's what's not shown explicitly or clear I guess is clearly in the um slides is that there's a significant amount of temporary staff budgeting to to ensure that we can operate for those times and cover ation things like that so we are we are ecstatic with the positions that were approved and that we were able to already uh start to make some offers are to be ready for the summer the proposed hours of operation uh as they are currently is 5:30 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday through Friday Saturday 6:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. and Sunday 10:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. now uh portions of the pool can be shut off while the facility remains open so during the school year it's probably not prudent to have you know the slide open while the kids are in school but we'd have it open in the afternoon so um just try to make good business decisions but anytime in those hours of operation Fitness would be available lap swimming would be available and things like that okay so let me ask you a question on the weekend you said closing at 7 p.m. is it possible and maybe you've already thought all this through I'm sure you really have but is it possible to have it open for rental for pool parties or something absolutely and that and that is what happens in the summer in most of our pools is that the weekend late evenings are are pool rental times oh already absolutely yes so it's actually will be open past 7 but for a dedicated purpose correct so you might just use the midsize pool where people recreate not the Olympic siiz pool for and they could reserve that with a rental system and pay yes okay absolutely that's very cool I didn't understand that when I saw 10 to 7 when you said that so absolutely makes sense um well and then let me ask this there we're doing the fee study and I know you've done a detailed assessment of um what is it like writeoffs or discounts for different levels of uh people's earning income um what is the lowest and the highest so um if we can get the overhead up I can share this graphic that people much better than me put together um we zoom out a little bit so the the standard rate for uh an individual adult with with no um consider consideration of of uh income challenges would be $60 and it drops down from there um so the lowest a child could get in for $3 a month uh an additional adult so and then the initial adult for $12 a month and then the additional adult so like let's say as an example a household size of three with uh two adults and a child could get in for as low as $22 a month and as high as 90 as high as as yeah that's correct 105 yeah 105 okay and then you've set set out a schedule I'm sorry a set out a schedule your next slide uh down sure and these are just some example packages of of at income and discount rates okay all right well something I want to keep an eye on I I've uh expressed a desire to at least the first year to be a little bit under uh what would be a Market Place uh gym pool there's lots of them around you can join them everything in the North to St Mary's or uh to the South to what is it called it used to be called D Double Diamond or Diamond Country but now it's another name that pool um so I just want to make sure that we're making it accessible I I I'm a little worried it's a little over complicated and I wonder who's going to be calculating this the front desk person sure our front desk staff and our in the quote unquote sales staff up there will be well versed in this and then also just to as a part of that initial phase we're going to have uh Founders memberships where if you do sign up it'll be a significant discount off of the rate and then we'll maintain that rate even through price increases so the only thing I'd ask since we have a pilot year is that we do analyze it absolutely and make sure the rates aren't discouraging people absolutely and then come back to us next year with a you know potentially revised schedule either up or down whatever you think okay we'll do yep all right I'm going to turn my time over did you have more comments questions um council member Ree mayor just for the record mayor shivi is with us and she's been on since 1254 okay and let me actually go I mean U Miss Eber you have not been in this rotation this morning uh we've all had two turns I had a third yeah I have a question for Trot hi so do you anticipate that the the um the funds that you'll receive from pool memberships will pay for the salaries or do you think that I know you mentioned that we'll have funding but do you think that that will cover the the salaries I I think I think there's an opportunity to to get very close and I think that's part of operating a good business model where if there isn't heavy usage reducing the the um the amount of staff in a space and just just being smart so the flexible numbers of the temp salaries is the part that the business will kind of help dictate the spending and we'll make adjustments based on usage the full-time salaries that we're adding uh we do believe our Revenue will more than cover that okay thank you anything else no not right now uh M council member Reese thank you Mr ulot I just wanted to sort of because we have you here about the Moana Springs aquatic center um have we spoken with our you know our swimming teams and master swimmers about the hours meaning are we talking to them about what their needs are I sometimes hear people who want to go and swim at like 400 a.m I I don't know that people are crazy but um what what are your thoughts there so uh our our Aquatics team that we have on staff right now Danny um Lauren and Noah have been working with the uh the current teams that we have the current groups to talk about Lane allocations and and times and things like that and that is the beauty of this facility is that we can have this massive 50 meter pool serving a ton of our competitive swimming and our Recreation swim programs and then still have the other pool open for our community members who just want to come in and swim and play and and do some resistance training on the in the lazy River thing so um yes we have been heavily involved with snika and with our user groups well and I take it that as this pool opens it will relieve pressure on our other pool facilities which means everybody gets greater access to the pool resources that we have absolutely yeah that's great okay all right council member Taylor anything I don't have any questions for uh director OT but I do have a budget question if that's okay of course um this this is sort of I guess for our manager and my question is when we start had our first Workshop back in March I was interested in learning what we need to do as a council um looking five 10 years in the future for finan financial sustainability and are there big things that we need to start thinking about this is perfect I mean this is such a great effort for right now but I'm wondering as the city grows as we look at our infrastructure as we look at um our resources what are things we need to do as with our tax base and our our income I actually think that that that that this is a pretty natural segue uh after hearing Mr ulot talk about the business model that will sustain the maintenance side of the new facility I think really understanding the challenges that the city and the community face um in infrastructure whether that's our facilities or our Parks uh or our streets um and and matching whether it's a fee schedule or budgeted decisions to the life and maintenance obligations that come along with some of these new spends I think um really understanding how revenue is created and then how that Revenue whether it's property tax or C tax is then distributed to the various agencies around um our community is important because I don't believe that um particularly in the sex space that the revenue generation necessarily then funds the services that are required to keep that revenue generated moving in a positive um Direction um I think measuring results or setting expectations for Investments that you make um will be important right so when you when you look at your choices in in any given budget cycle and say we're going to do we're going to spend a million dollars on police officers for example a million a half dollars on police officers um asking the questions of so what do we anticipate that we'll be able to achieve that we couldn't previously achieve what does this mean for our community um and you could do that for any of our departments right I mean I think everybody here punches above their weight class but they're they're all understaffed they're all underfunded um and that's not you know that's not I think a a knock on this Council I think you do the very best you can with the with the resources you Prov you're you're given through the various funding models but again I think that's that goes back to understanding how revenue is created in the first instance and then how it is distributed back to the government agencies through the the statutory formulas um and then I think finally you you need to be patient and um really targeted in your approach to Redevelopment so I think adopting strategies and then sticking to those strategies that require private side investment in advance of public side invest investment um that's how you're going to get the most bang for your buck out of out of the that increment that gets that gets generated in those spaces did that get you answered it did I think I at some point I might want to learn more about the steps that we need to do that we need to take to get us to some of those places maybe a seax discussion or a Redevelopment discussion I don't think this is the time but it gives me an overview of of some things that we need to be talking about and thinking about for the future all right good all right moving on to council member Martinez thanks so much vice mayor and uh thank you council member Taylor for that Global question I think it's going to provide us with some good context moving forward I did just have one quick question about the fee ranges for reservations on our Recreation facilities um I know that you're asking for us to approve of range but I'm just wondering if those are set or is there like leeway for staff to kind of say hey we're going to charge this for this event and this for this event or is it based on the actual facility so uh there are sorry Nathan oot parks recreation director for the record so there are currently our fees set for each one of the you know particular rooms whether it's um a room at Evelyn Mount or at Neil Road um so what we're doing is trying to fit everything on the scale to try to reduce the um the amount of lines in the fee schedule but that we would not increase by more than a percentage point that makes sense for each room in in an annual year so there's other than California building which we've improved significantly in uh in the ability with HVAC and operation that the facilities team and and Public Works team have done a great job to improve um there's not a significant increase on any of our room spaces in this fee schedule it's just trying to consolidate um you know instead of having seven different rooms named that are about the same size we just say mediumsized room uh meeting room or something like that so does that explain that or yeah it does I guess I'm just trying to pinpoint whether like let's say one of the rooms in Evelyn Mount regardless of who reserves that room it's going to be the same cost for that room we just not are putting that or identifying that in the feat schedule now yeah at this at this at this time yes that would be the case if we talked about a pricing policy where there would be some ability to fluctuate based on um high high use periods you know the prime time hours in the evening versus the you know if you can do a meeting at lunchtime in the middle of the week things like that so um but at this time it is that single rate for for the particular room okay yeah and I appreciate the sensitivity to the upgrades at the California building because I know that along with the outdoor space that it provides it's going to be a great uh facility for our community absolutely thank you okay um all right is that what you had yeah I'm interested to I mean I want to prepare us for getting questions that should a private business pay something different than let's say nonprofit or another governmental agency are we charging other governmental agencies many groups come and use for example the room and McKinley for either the boardroom or the auditorium sure Nathan Elliot parks recreation director um one of our goals for and objectives for this year is to put a pricing policy in place to help Define that what what levels of service uh and price uh incurs for the actual user group versus uh is a burden on the tax base so um that is something that will be coming forward hopefully very well hopefully in the first quarter okay and then I'm going to turn to Madame mayor uh who's who started queuing us up with a number of questions all right thank you so much I think I want to um kind of I think councilwoman Taylor talked a little bit about like sort of longevity of sustainability and then our city manager weighed in and I am actually really proud of how far we've come because it was really challenging for many many many years it's still challenging don't get me wrong but I do think it's opportunities to look at things a little bit differently and what I mean by that like just one example you know everyone sort of talked about these District polls these light polls um and part of my thought was you know I would think too something like that could fall under room tax um because those are obviously great placemakers and also very I I think tourism Centric when it comes to placemaking and so why couldn't we use room tax um for some of those placemaking initiatives and then you know also looking at other you know other fees in the fee schedule and one is to align with other jurisdictions on some of our fees because some of them are completely out of range out of whack and I think we kind of need to look at all that so it balances out like on you know some of our appeal fees because I understand that you know Sparks and County have a different appeal cost and so I think we're kind of out of those balances and I wonder if it's not an opportunity to really you know look at some of those things because I think especially in the appeals Fe there seems to be you know this big I think divide of what others in the region are charging so I just kind of think you know thinking a little bit different because we've never looked at the room tax for maybe some of this placemaking and then um again looking at some of our fee schedules on what makes sense what doesn't make sense there was even you know some talk about Warehouse fees those kinds of things so I just want to make sure because some times I know some of it's very political and and but I do think it should be region specific so we're staying in line so that the sustainability of the long-term budget does sort of stay on track does that make sense Vicki yes I understand what you're saying we did provide a memo um that outlined where we had every Department back at the March meeting you did request that we look at some of those comparisons across the jurisdiction so we did ask the Departments to do that and we provided a memo back to council that included that um that is a much broader topic I think than we're going to be able to address at this juncture but we could certainly address it going into next year now that we have that Baseline look at all of the fees across the study um one of the things that we do every five years is we do a fee study every five years just to make sure that we are in alignment with what it actually costs us to produce whatever that uh service is so we do adjust that every 5 years but I think we you are on to something that we should be looking across jurisdictions as well and that that's the second piece of that yeah because it brings to mind Vicki I'm just curious because it brings to mind like staff time on appeals right and what's the associated cost with that and you know again aligning with with um you know Sparks in the county because isn't it quite a big big difference there is a big difference yes so I mean that's something I would support in this budget um that's just me but I do think again looking at everything that should be aligned and I know you look at it every five years but I think you know to council member Taylor's point the longevity of sustainable budgets and sort of if you know we're kind of out of whack then it's harder to get back in line so um and then I'll just wield back to you Madame vice mayor okay I have more just don't want to take up everyone's time well we want to hear what you have to say and you can continue on and we have Mr pingry here um I just wanted to before he speaks just say last time last budget we had a fairly in depth conversation about appeal fees and we decided at that time I think to go with $100 and the reason was just to recap that we wanted to continue to provide access to government in other words this is a um a redress kind of situation and whether it's a fence that we heard the other day or something else you know a different kind of thing but that was a decision a year ago it's always up for discussion can we have um Mr pingry we do he he's right here good afternoon Chris pingry for the record um yes we did address this during last year's budget um hearing meetings and we did end up increasing that rate from $55 to $100 but regionally across the board and you know we did a we did a study last year at this time just across the state to kind of see where we are in those appeals as we all know we still want to provide that access to you know to appellants who who do feel that they need their voices heard on you know land entitlement cases building permits um so we do have we do have that process but our fees are substantially lower than we do we charge $68 for an administrative um appeal which is building permits sign permits um code enforcement and then we charge $100 a piece for the land entitlement uh related appeals which you know going across the board um City Sparks does something completely different they charge a not to exceed number um and that staff time is build to the applicant um if it does end up going to appeal um and was county has a a different model where theirs is about $1,200 is what their their appeal cost is um depending on they've got it broke down to a you know a different nature of anywhere from 1,000 to 1,400 um for for those individual appeals for different land entitlements so we're kind of across the board but throughout the state the average is about $750 each for each appeal um and we are still you know much much lower than that um with the staff time that goes into it okay I I guess that's my my more of my concern of course so tell me would their access be different I would assume not they would get the same level of service however it does take a lot of Staff time time to produce and um have you done sort of studies on how much staff time you spend on these I'm I'm just curious and it wouldn't impede the level of access to government would it to answer that question no it wouldn't I mean each appeal is is unique in its each in its own nature to where it takes a significant of Staff time um for the larger more heavily contested appeals with public comment and and the prep time that goes into each appeal where an administrative appeal is probably not going to take as much time or or or cost staff time um the same significance of a you know a contested land use um entitlement I this isn't really about like what the item is it's more about the fees the fee schedule where we look at it as a regional there's a reason why that those fees look the way that they do on everything not just this one but all of them but I I worried a little bit more about this because I do know that staff time can be insurmountable in um time and um you know just and why why that is and I get it because you can obviously make some other arguments where and it's not popular politically I'm sure but I also worry about the staff time and when we talk about sustainable budgets longterm this is just one tiny tiny example of where I think Reno has really sort of stood down whenever it comes to looking at our fee schedule and you know they can be warranted I'm not saying you know everything I'm just saying I just want to make sure that we look at it and you you know five years is actually a long time I think it should be probably every you know two and a half three years to look at be schedules because they change so dramatically so and even still like we've had this conversation with our seniors and the amount they pay um we didn't feel that that was warranted so I understand I just wanted to see because it looks so dramatic in price and why that is but obviously other things take more staff time and and um the outcomes so that's what I wanted to know and then I'm going to send it back to you vice mayor and then I'll get on topic yep I'll go on now um usually I would go next but I'm going to go to um um Comm um council member eert I just wanted to talk about the fees I wanted to share that I've had constituents reach out to me um and express that they've wanted to file an appeal and they're not able to afford it with the the fees that they are currently I know that we're lower but I I know um from experience that that people won't be able to afford these appeals and I don't think it's um fair for people to not be able to um to do these things because they can't afford it um I just think it's really we need to be really careful here about what kind of service we provide is as a city and making it you know um a service that's only provided for people that can afford it you know it just I have a really hard time with that and maybe if if we have um a policy where we can wave fees for people if they're um meet a certain income level I could support it but I really I mean I had a woman call me who really desperately wanted to file an appeal about something that was happening directly behind her home and she could not afford 60 8 so it's just something that really um would be very upsetting to raise those fees I know people just would not be able to afford it yeah so I'll I'll just a pine on this too um and I I was very active in this conversation last time um my concern was when residents are filing an appeal about something that a developer wanted to do they're they're just sitting there minding their own business when suddenly let's say development is going in down the street or something's happening that will affect their property and so to have to pay let's say $750 or $1,200 to protect their property seem very onerous um and that's why we we sought a middle ground ra doubling it from 55 to 100 but not quadrupling it to whatever the proposal was last time so I just think you know let's just continue to evaluate it and um but that's my challenge is that there's also the case where a developer is very challenged by a Planning Commission decision and they aren't happy with it and then to have to F pay $1,200 just to have a let's say a reconsideration over a condition it doesn't seem fair that way either to me so that was just where I was Madam mayor and apparently where council member Ebert is but always good to have the conversation yeah no again it you got to be careful about getting hung up on the specific issue my point is is that those fees should always be looked at we've looked we've seen where the seniors also have been impacted by raising fees and things like that right so I worry that five years is is too long um but also if you're looking at sustainability what does that look all across the region right those kinds of things and and I'm sorry go ahead I think you did ask but how many appeals do we get you know on average a year would you say not very many this is Chris pingry again for the record um we average obviously much higher than our neighboring jurisdictions just due to the fact of our lower fee but uh we did approximately 30 around 30 over the last threeyear period um we have seen an uptick in that over the last uh year and a half of I think we've done 12 of in some way whether that's land use or an administrative appeal um but we're doing about 30 in a three-year period is in three years so that's 10 a year MH and is that what about the administrative ones that you spoke that was including um we we did a total of from the data that we put together for last year's budget we had 31 appeals in that threeyear period and that was a combination of both land it's 10 a year 10 a month an extreme amount and we have a lot of development happening I mean it's not like we're getting one per per thing that's coming through here correct okay okay yeah all right thank you um let me I'm going to again skip my turn and go to do you want to speak council member sure thank you madam vice mayor um I wanted to uh continue having a conversation about some of the uh areas where I think there are opportunities for one-time funding and perhaps Mr ulot I would direct this comment to you um I have spent some time uh more lately than I have in the past at our greenhouse and with our horticulturalist and arborist and it sort of dovet tales with council member uh vice mayor der's uh comments about trees and different kinds of things in that regard but I I think our uh Greenhouse is a really undervalued asset uh and I I know it probably can use some maybe we'll call it modernizing updating sprucing up I I cannot believe what they do there with so very little and the volunteers that are there just are an awesome group of mostly we'll say older uh uh local community members but they get in there and they are growing stuff and they're working the Earth and and soil and they're making making our community much immeasurably more beautiful through their actions and so I think for me and it doesn't mean it's this year that I'm saying we have to get some allocation or line item in there for it but I'm saying longterm perhaps what I would look to you for is some advice and Direction and how to really honor that element of our um city which is again fairly I think small uh but packs above its weight um so maybe you want speak to that uh thank you thank you for the the comment and thanks for no ing the talents of that team you're far more lucky to have them than you are to have me because they are just amazing uh Matt Basil Ryan Sherer and their volunteers and staff are just incredible so um one thing to note because I think the timing would be important because uh we do have a significant amount of money coming from a grant for that was for the airway um project so we'll be able to make some improvements so probably this time next year we'll have a good idea of hey what else so number one we need to secure the property so that we don't do a lot of work and gets vandalized damaged ripped out so uh but thank you for for acknowledging that and that would be it would be a good investment and there could be an opportunity for uh potentially tree farms in other areas of Reno that could could be even more supportive to increasing canopy coverage and let me ask this question when you as a a department director level person are looking at your CIP needs have you placed the greenhouse and the needs there into the CIP or is it not yet made it there it it is in the uh the monster list of um deferred maintenance for sure uh the improvements are there and and so it's great to see that the Grant's going to help there so it is there is improvements there for irrigation and then also structure repairs things like that and number one again securing the space where it's not accessible by just walking around well it's one of those things where I think if we will show it some love some of the other things that council member vice mayor der has spoken about kind of naturally flow from it and and you know getting more trees into uh the North Valleys as you all were doing on Arbor Day last we planted 41 on Saturday in in um uhy in Panzer Valley Park yeah and then we had the Arbor Day we planted eight in um yes Dorothy mcalindon y so that was amazing those experiences and and ultimately my point being is that just perhaps elevating it into the priority sphere um because it's not I mean we don't all have to have the same priorities I'm just suggesting that one of mine would be that facility and I think it uh deserves all the credit it's getting for beautification efforts the work that's being done there and again small staff of of two basically right but huge impact to our region Citywide impact right yeah it's just incredible and so hopefully we'll just find ways to uh continue to grow that space yeah thank uh let me move on to council member um Taylor okay uh council member Martinez I'm good as well thank you okay I sense we're coming to some closure how about you Madame mayor yeah I do okay let's go someone brought up I believe reeno work yeah I did oh okay let's go back to that and then um obviously there's a set aside for $50,000 I'm curious what exactly that goes to and maybe um I think there was an ask to R raise that to a 100 and I'm curious if any of that can be tied to because we used to and I don't know what it looks like now but after they would complete the program they would have access they would have a job and they would have housing and tying some of this money to like rental or deposit assistance so what does that look like hi good afternoon um thank you for the question for the record Ela wisman housing manager so currently the yearly amount that the council um approves is $50,000 that goes toward it can pay for about one of the um what we call the classes each year so that covers the salaries of um the vaa um Personnel who um supervised the class as well as the participants sttip or their salaries for um working alongside with our parks and wrecks and Public Works departments um and also includes some training and other materials um so historically Volunteers of America has also done fundraising and so it's been a a collaborative effort where they fund raise and then we put in our dollars and it makes it a public public private partnership where their fundraising dollars have essentially um DWI down and so um while they're not saying that they are not going to contribute any of the funds they've just reduced the amount that they're able to contribute moving forward so that's where the $100,000 ask comes in is that so we can still the 100,000 plus the 50,000 that is already approved so that we continue to get at least two classes per year and that's with vaa committing um I forget just a smaller amount I think about $25,000 per year um as far as the housing piece goes um we currently have other funding that we still do pay for their housing rent assistance for three months deposit assistance um and util utility rent utility rental depos deposit for rents and utilities excuse me and then three months of rental assistance upon graduation so that that's currently what we have in place and that's completely different grant funding that we receive all right and [Music] um okay I'm trying to figure out is that grant funding consistent um actually this how we're paying it for this most recent class is a newer grant that we received from part of our home art funding that the wasel county home Consortium received and we applied through the Consortium and received a grant um for a about $200,000 to pay for the next couple of classes for that rental assistance so that is new and what El I'm curious what's the percentage of people that go through the program that can sustain housing after three months you know I don't have the percentage right off the top of my head but um I I think we're somewhere in like the 80% range somewhere in the 80s of um success meaning people have not returned to homelessness so that's how we um view success whether or not they're in the same unit or another unit they haven't return to homelessness yeah and can do you have a cap on how many people can go through the program um so we can do um 12 per class and that's the only reason that we capitate that is because that's the size of the van that vaa has that that drives people around so we start with 12 and then you know unfortunately we we usually lose a couple um during the class um yesterday or Monday actually reg graduated seven out of 12 yeah I would like to see something like this we really need to think about expanding it and the long-term success of Housing and the Workforce program um I don't think we f F us enough on that I think you guys do I don't think the council does I also would say you know vaa is a good partner in some ways I'm not so sure in others so if their partnership is is dwindling down I think the city has been good to them um you know with our side of funding uh whether it's buildings or maintenance that they truly should have been responsible for um you know I think there's other ways that they can stuff up um I'm all about you know funding more for this program but I also want us to see I would like to see the council become a little bit more engaged on the outcomes of what's working what isn't working when it comes to our homeless populations because I think these are worthwhile programs and thanks to councilwoman jardan when she was there this was her baby she started it but this gives people purpose and I think we need to continue to focus on what is that purpose what are the continual goals and outcomes when we provide them like the rental uh assistance is three months long enough it might need to be six months and then I also know that we've helped people with lots of deposit assistance in the tune over the last few years of $7 million right so I'd love to see make sure that it also is targeted to Workforce specific because those are people that are literally working getting back on their feet they need the assistance we know that and there are some that just continue to keep coming back and back and back and we have funded that and that should not um you know that shouldn't be a thing we should be following the progress uh when it comes to Workforce or being able to sustain housing because some people need wraparound Services I think this program is is wonderful and something that we really should be expanding on because I think it has so much potential I don't think we have hit its potential but I think you guys have done a phenomenal job and I just think that the council this could be a really great way to see some significant outcomes and and tie it to you know rois so anyway thank you so much I don't know if the council feels the same way but I I think it's impressive and we haven't really expanded on it so I think $100,000 is kind of a a drop in the bucket but I think we should look at what has longterm look like and maybe it's the new Sage trailer that we have coming in that we identify them for people that literally um are going back to work I mean these are very dedicated people it's tough tough to get back on your feet after being homeless thank you mayor um I just I'll add that I think you're you're very right on what you're saying and what I'd like to see I was going to when it came to my turn which I guess we're back at um I was going to recommend that we sort of do a last round here and kind of put some any closing thoughts on the budget so we can kind of wrap up this uh meeting but in terms of what you just said I would like to recommend that the staff look at the contingency h on a few projects one would be we mentioned earlier the Cold Case for 100 grand I'd like to recommend Reno Works to get started 100 Grand uh the ewaste it I had heard different numbers I had heard 75,000 I heard 150 but assuming for whatever reason it's 150 um that and then uh to wrap up this horse fencing and that would use just under a million doll that you say we have be about 950 uh I'd love to see you guys look at that and bring it back to us in your fourth quarter and then on the other things that are on this one-time funding um you need to do work uh Reno Arch opab well opab and fire station are going to be an allocation based on what we haven't allocated to the other projects but right and Karma box which I understand doesn't have an instant need right now but it looks like it's October so it would fit very well in the summary of the onetime funding the code enforcement trailer the Evelyn Mount exercise room what does the Riverwalk improvements what are we talking about there um the park district assessment we haven't heard much about that but it'd be good to before we fund it to understand what it is and uh the human resources information system my understanding is this is a very costly item over $10 million and so I think the staff wanted to get started with an assessment maybe it's an evaluation of different programs or what we actually need do an assessment so those are and then Virginia Street placemaking not really sure what you're asking for there so I for me I would love to kind of move some of these more emergent things that need money right now use the contingency and then the others let's do the cost estimates and bring it back when you're closing out your budget um thank you so much for what you've done today I um I'm going to put in a final pitch too on my sustainability initiatives and that's um I wanted to be clear I was recommending uh bringing back a person that we lost almost 20 years ago now which is a tree inspector they would do a lot of uh Code Compliance they would go work with our residents we get a lot of requests from residents to trim trees on the Parkway in front of their homes um and there's a a lot of things that that person used to do uh working with contractors on Street rehab jobs and um I understand maybe an updated name might be good but I'd rather not wait I mean the the book of business needs to be done by somebody it's not getting done today I get so many complaints so that's one thing it would be a position you mentioned 31 positions this would be a 32 and then on the um one shots I or if it's one shot if you can fit in the budget I had recommended uh the $100,000 for tree maintenance and if you need to trim that down to fit a number that's fine but as long as we get started um but again I get a lot of complaints you know um well that kind of wraps up my part and let me ask any final comments from my colleagues uh council member Reese uh council member Taylor um yeah thank you and I'll just go to the onetime funding um slide just because I thought I we were looking at this we weren't giving direction on where we are I was just suggesting on the contingency part okay so I guess I'm not ready to make any recommend motions no motions yeah do you mind if I finish is that okay that's fine I'm sorry just clarifying I wasn't asking for any motion great or Direction um so on the onetime funding things I think these are all good I'll need more information on them I think all the programs are fantastic um with new positions I I thought that we were within that 31 people I don't know if there's any room for 32 people there's not there's not room for any extra in this budget as it's currently presented so we would have to figure out a way to cut something in order to put something else in or we would have to use contingency or something else yes but that's something that if you gave direction that you wanted to look at some things we could certainly work with the city manager's office and see if there's an opportunity there but um the way it currently exists we would have to cut something to add something sounds good um I'm just I'm really thankful for all the work I I think my priorities from the March 18th Workshop were heard and listened to and I'm I'm very impressed thank you everyone I know this is a lot of work thank you m yeah uh council member Martinez thanks so much mam my speaker um I will also take the time and thank staff you know for putting in the time to get the projects together and listen to our concerns I think especially for the as we start looking at more infield development and making sure that our current residents have part I really appreciate you listening to those concerns I did have a quick question about the code enforcement trailer what what is that and I guess I'm in a position to not be fully educated enough to make decisions about these onetime opportunities um and funding sources but um I just wanted to learn more about that it's it's about space they they're running out of space out at the Corp yard so it would create an additional space for them to have a work space to um operate out of and Alex can Alex could speak to this more where are you if I heard about it I just wanted to know more that's it yeah well just to give you an idea Alex Willie for the record uh my office used to be a closet so that that can give you an idea perfect so you're looking for more workspace for our employees yes sir okay just wanted to put that out there thank you so much I appreciate it thanks M mayor and then I'm going to go to um council member eert and then back to the mayor no no more questions thank you no more and then what about you Madame mayor yeah um and I said this last time too uh let's see um with the dedicated walking team downtown I want to make sure that that team is um in place and that it's not a rotated team because I think that's part of you know there's always sort of this frustration and it should be really a truly a Community Place model where you literally know each officer's name every business down there knows its name all those things there should be a broad conversation to about possibly a bid in the Midtown District um and listen obviously I own a business in Midtown full disclosure so um and that was on the record when we started too so I just you know I just know how hard it is for some of these small businesses they can really really struggle and especially if we really want to have placemaking and I think this Council supports it and events and things like that that um truly revitalized spaces Midtown is revitalized it's a revitalized part of the city because the the businesses put their Sweat Equity in not the city I was there as actually one of the reasons I ended up running for city council because I we didn't feel like the um city council hurt us at the time and several of us businesses started the Midtown district and they they said hey we want you to go to a council meeting and talk about um sidewalks and lighting and things of that nature and really Midtown is today not because of what the city has done yes you know the RTC improvements but that took you know 14 years in the making it's really been The Sweat Equity of all those small businesses making it happen and so you think we have to be very careful about slapping those small businesses in the when actually they were the ones that revitalized a part of the city when the city wanted nothing to do with them and quite honestly um there was there was no support from maybe one or two council members to be honest with you but there really wasn't and it's been by the for force of nature that Midtown is successful today because of those businesses not uh because of the City of Reno which none of you were there at the time so be grateful for that because I think we've changed and embraced a much different culture today but um thanks you know so much for understanding and being very aware of how hard it is to make a business run and be successful all right uh was that it Madame mayor that's it I just want to be clear that those walking teams because we're fighting for you know downtown we've been talking about a downtown walking team for a long time it has not been successful so I want to make sure it's dedicated um it's 247 and it does not rotate police officers these are the same and even if there's maybe some incentive that we have to say Hey you know this downtown walking team you know I don't I don't know the politics and how it works within the department at all in any capacity but is there some way that you know these officers they um they communicate with businesses they know people by names they they literally are ingrained in the community whenever they're in that district and so I want them to be part of you know the fabric um in every capacity so I'm looking forward to it and I want to thank Chief Nance for making this happen um because it's been sorely needed and it's the first time that I think um that I think that we're going to see a difference because I I think that you know there are challenges down there that we haven't seen before and I will say I was disappointed when uh some of the team was removed and um that was not under Chief Nance so I appreciate her making this a priority again for downtown a safe city as a prosperous City and and downtown is much more challenging I want everyone to remember that because of the tourism aspect because of the density um the accessibility to services so it just it it's a inside a City downtown so I want to say thank you also to the council for supporting this all right um and just to close the loop on one other thing we talked a lot about banners uh for the various areas Midtown Wells and so on and I think what I'm hearing the sentiment on the council seem to be to be looking to fund that from either room tax or some other account uh at least for the the foreseeable future this year um and I and I want to check in though I that's what I was hearing people say but is that I see Mr Martinez nodding yes okay anyone else have opinion on that okay well anyway that's what I was hearing people say so when you come back with the budget maybe look for a way to incorporate the the banners uh at least for now and and again this may be something you phase in over time after we have conversation I think we heard from the public speakers that that they already think they are uh buying and maintaining the banners and maybe discounting the effort to um install or uninstall other banners that kind of thing so we all just need to have a better understanding of what we're talking about I think okay absolutely okay um those are some wrap up things I saw now I want to remind everyone we do have the RDA and I don't know what all is involved there not much good news okay so um so with that I'm going to close out this conversation if I may um last call anyone okay Madame mayor any last thoughts okay no I just want to say thank you Vicky and for Doug Thornley you guys did a tremendous job each year the budget gets better and better and better um I I think you know it's really an art form so just I want to thank both of them so much because I think they're also hearing counsil and seeing the concerns and I know it's got to be really challenging I don't think people realize that because there's a lot of personalities on this Council and a lot of different asks and needs and everything is to is worthy everything so it's got to be really challenging Vicki but you have just done an amazing job year after year so thank you thank you madam mayor I appreciate that yeah and Kudos from me too I mean you made me being easy and your team my team yes Lind you want to say their names uh Hatfield she's not in her spot I don't know why um and Matt Taylor our assistant Finance director um they are both amazing and I have an amazing staff that works for me as well that's good that's really good and this was a very seamless team effort yeah well this for us today Council has been very good good I mean we've been able to speak our truths uh talk about things we're worried about it's really been a valuable exercise um I know here just to wrap this out we have nothing under the E ordinances or F ordinances adoption or the city clerk uh the last item on I'm vice mayor I'm prepared to move to direct staff to move forward with development of the fiscal year 2024 2025 budget and fee schedule based on the feedback from Council excellent and a second and a second from Mr Martinez any comments on the motion all in favor please say I I any opposed I all right motion passes unanimously we're on our way there excellent um we have item H which is city council comments and announcements does anyone have any today I do oh uh yes council member Ebert I just want to let everybody know that it's uh today's the first day of older Americans month uh the kickoff was today at the waso County Senior Services uh building so just want to let everybody know in case you want to go down they have a lot of uh events going on this month too so just want to let everyone know cool thanks um anyone else no madame mayor anything under this item okay uh not hearing anything so we have no public hearings or uh let's see we'll take a final public comment on this meeting Madame vice mayor we have no public comment registered if you're in zoom and would like to make comment please raise your hand at this time we have no participants we're closing out item J looking for a motion to adjourn Reno city council all right we have a motion from Mr Reese a second from Mr Martinez all in favor please say I I I all right this meeting is adjourned and we're going to convene our Redevelopment agency board at it looks like um 145 and uh would you like to take it away Madam Clerk give me just a second to get the meeting switched over okay all right Madame vice mayor if you would like to call to order the Redevelopment agency board special meetings yeah I'm calling to order the special meeting of the Redevelopment agency board Wednesday May 1st 2024 again I mentioned it was uh essentially 145 or 147 s um back to you madam clerk we we've already done the pledge um I can call roll would you please call roll yes um council member breus is absent at this time D here Martinez here Ebert here Taylor here ree here shivi here Madame vice mayor you do have a quorum of the Redevelopment agency board all right any public comment to get us started we have no public comment registered additionally we have not received any public uh correspondence okay thank you second all right we have a motion for Mr ree second from Mr Martinez to approve the agenda all in favor please say I I I any opposed all right motion carries unanimously moving on to A5 we do have minutes and these are from March 18th 2024 I'm looking for a motion a second all right we have a motion from Mr ree second from Miss Ebert all in favor please say I I I any opposed motion carries unanimously uh we have no public hearings and we'll turn our onb we'll turn our attention to item C1 uh over to you thank you Vicky van Beren Vicky van Beren Director of Finance for the record uh we previously met on March 18th on this budget cycle and so we talked about all the financials for rda1 and rda2 at that time we did that deep dive so I only have three slides for you today and it's just an update of what changed from March 18th until now so Redevelopment agency one you remember this is that area that I showed you downtown it's the downtown area that we have there we have some bonds still outstanding in that area the bond payments are shown on this slide with that yellow line that shows where the bond payments are those bonds pay off in 2027 and this is where I was saying that the good news is coming in because what we thought was uh we wouldn't be able to have any excess funds in here until after those bonds paid off and once those bonds paid off there's no other debt in here and so it would go on all the increment would be available what this slide shows you is where we were in March is the blue line on each one that's where we were projecting the revenue to be on March 25th we received the numbers the actual numbers from Taxation and so you'll see on 2025 here see that big gap between the blue and the green bar the new projection that amount above that debt service line we're now seeing that and we will see that for next year next fiscal year 25 that amount I believe and I'm not proposing it with this budget we'll watch it as the year goes along but I believe by the end of next year we will be able to pay back that loan to rda2 that $1.2 million we pay that back next year and in 26 as we move out you'll have all of that green bar above that line will be increment to be spent in downtown and going forward so we are there a year earlier than what we thought we were going to be to actually have some real funds to start funding things downtown and funding things in the RDA so really good news good space this is really hard to predict too because as properties come online we can kind of know how it's going to flow but you never know how soon or you know exactly where it's going to hit in the year so really good news and I think this is really proof that revitalization of downtown is working and the things that you as uh as a board are doing are working and it's in a positive direction so miss vanord could you just say a number so it's you said it's between the yellow line and the top of the green or okay so what is that it's that in 2025 that's around a million dollar and so we need a million we need 1.2 million in to pay back that loan to rda2 and we do have a little bit of excess I think in there an ending fund balance when we close out this year just I mean a hair and if we use that when we close out this current year and this little bit which isn't quite a million because you see 3 million and 4 million over there on the side it's not quite a million if we use those those two amounts together I Believe by the end of next year we will be able to pay that off so I will come back at some point during the year and say hey we we verified we have this money and we can pay this back but but I guess where I'm confused is it the difference between the blue and the green or is it the difference above the gold the difference above the gold is the excess that we well it looks like a lot more than a million so that's what maybe I'm not in 2025 I'm just looking at 2025 next year cuz we still have to pay back that loan first once we pay that back and then going out in 26 the excess is still just that amount above that Gold Line because the Gold Line is the debt service but it looks like it's like 6 million that's where I'm I'm confused is it the difference between the green and the blue or is it um above the gold so I I'll take a try so the difference the difference between the green and the blue is the blue is what we Miss V saw on the in March right and the green is what we're actually projecting and building this budget off of now right because The Debt Service exists in that space on the yellow line and because we owe Redevelopment District 1.2 million there isn't really increment to do anything in agent in district one until probably the end of next year and so even though it shows that there's going to be money above and beyond the debt service which is great news right it means we're in the black for the district for the year that money is needs to go into RDA 2 before we take any yeah steps additional in in district one okay and I guess for clarification the line for The Debt Service this is just the bonds this does not include the 1.2 million um so this is just the bonds that we have outstanding is shown on here so that's why that little Gap in 25 that could pay back okay RDA and then going forward yeah got it okay keep confusing but it it's still good news it's all good news yeah so oh there we go um RDA 2 same thing going on here these estimates came in slightly higher than what we had originally so again the blue was what we came with in March and the green are the new revised numbers rda2 is very healthy has a lot of tax increment in there the only Debt Service in this one is the payment to the um the Nevada land group for the ballpark area so um and that does continue until 2035 so there is a lot of capacity in here this is just the tax increment shown each year does not include the fund balance that we've accumulated over the last couple of years so there's still significant portion of money there that's available and we talked about that in the last meeting um the proposals for this and this is the last slide that I have for you in here the proposals are to add two positions in here and again this is in alignment with creating that team and really creating that code enforcement um piece and enforcement around uh what council was looking for and this would be just in the rda2 space um and if you'd like some more details on how this is going to work because this is really building out the team that Lance um and his team were looking at to do in this space um so that's what these two positions were the two positions that you approved last year were a revenue and compliance officer and a property analyst and the business license technician that is on here would really assist this revenue and compliance officer by doing a lot of the in-house work that they do they come in from the field do in-house work and it would keep them being able to be out in the field and doing the things that they do and having someone here in the office to do the office type work um and then the next item on here is fire headquarters and this is we would like to use $10 million of currently existing funds there's plenty available in rda2 there is a Nexus for this to fund a portion of the head headquarters out of here um spoken to the city attorney's office we've confirmed this we would most likely have to come back to you and do um a plan Amendment um just to to add this as a project within that plan area but it does have a Nexus it's in the right location for it and the funding is available it would give us a very good Head Start uh this is part of the phased plan that we have for financing this fire station and what by doing this it decreases the amount we have to bond in the future and it keeps us on track with um being ready to build once the plans are designed and everything it speeds things up so um Miss kosy is here here and can put her a little slide up to to show you that plan and the phasing of that if you'd like to see that again I think that's really important at this point to see how that's really G to okay help that on the slide okay want to go ahead go ahead krie kosy director public works for the F for the record so um we've done a great job getting us to this point for the Central Station headquarters and I I believe you might recall seeing this from the last meeting that we had um when we uh um awarded the Core Construction the pre-construction services like Vicki was saying with the phased work that we've been doing we've been working very closely with Finance um with uh the um Chief n's group and fire chief to come up with this this phase plan so we can keep things just kind of moving along when when we first put together the when we first um assigned the $2 million we originally put that towards the design and we've used for the most part um I think we've got about $500,000 left in that we'll be using that for some tank removals and that sort of thing but what what we want to kind of point out here is the the plan is for the for fiscal year 25 we've got to finish the design and we've got to complete the Hazardous Materials survey and that right now I'm I'm estimating to be around $4 million that's why it's in in it's pen it's not it's not typewritten um then the next thing that we want to do is the abatement and the Demolition and I'm thinking that that will happen after police has enough time to move out of the building uh so that we're we're planning for around um April May of next year so that right now I I'm saying on the high end is probably going to be around $5 million the great thing about having Core Construction as the semar they put in our proposal that they would help us with the um the the abatement the demolition kind of putting that project out we're going to we're going to hard bid that piece so we're going to get competitive uh prices and then I've got about a million dollars in there for contingent gency but what we're we're looking at for 25 is is that that $10 million would be utilized for for those items then as Vicky said you know we we wouldn't plan to go to construction until 2027 so that gives us about a year to get our final costs and figure out how much we want we need to to bond for so I think this will set us up very nicely so we won't have a site that we've got a building sitting there that's vacant for a a long period of time that's that's that's a a concern that we all have so I'm hoping that that that's that is that that's the that that's the plan moving forward all right so in four years uh New Station yes okay station to summarize I can retire okay cool all right and back to you and just for clarity this would be different than if you wanted to set aside money from the onetime funny money we were talking about before so if you wanted to set aside money for that that would be more of a down payment so that we wouldn't have to bond as much this also keeps us from having to bond as much because they've already kind of anticipated how much a station would cost gets us closer to it and the other great thing about this is we keep moving forward and the site would be ready for construction at the point everything's ready and you're not sitting on plans and then a couple years later after you demolish and do other things costs have gone up it's going to keep us moving along and and keep a really good pace for this project cool so it's it's really important so that's the recommendations for this and I'm looking for feedback on what you want to see for this do you want um to put up your other slide um okay let me open to council comments any feedback on what we've just heard um I'm going to give from my perspective a two thumbs up for putting this $10 million in in for the fire headquarters to get to work um that' be my preference and I see you also have the two FTE I'm supportive of that as well anyone else yeah council member Taylor uh thank you madam vice mayor I just want to understand so if we T we're taking 10 million from RDA 2 it looks like in what year is that 2425 so do we have a little over 8 million in there in 2025 yes so you would still have a lot of funding to do other projects and things that um you would want to do coming forward but that would be something that um Brian and his team would probably come forward to later because I don't really have any projects at this point I think they're still working through what those would be but you would still have funding for that as well okay um and then my other question I guess is for Brian or when we sell properties I think we've we've sold a couple in the last year is is that money going into these funds at all or a separate Economic Development fund or I think I've asked this and I'm not sure of the answer yeah Brian M revitalization manager uh those properties were quick claimed by the Redevelopment agency to the city and so the city actually sold those properties and received those funds uh and those funds have gone towards Economic Development purposes okay thank you but not RDA projects clear yeah thank you all right anyone up Mr Martinez thanks so much mad I mayor I think I'm good I just want to Echo your support and appreciation for the staff and the work that went into this so I like the direction that we're headed in thank you okay uh Madame mayor any comments yeah quickly I'm I'm curious what about um because isn't the river part of rda2 was there any thought about um some allocation towards the river and revitalization projects with some of that funding yep Brian McCardell again um so we have not uh created Capital Improvement plan for redevelopment projects something we' like to tackle next year rda2 does consist of the portion just beyond the ballpark all the way to um 395 freeway uh we do not have a capital Improvement plan just yet for redevelopment funds okay um I yeah I look forward to that I just think we got to keep thinking of the river downtown revitalization safety um you know we gota just keep staying focused on that I think and remember Public Safety is a big part of that I mean our uh our wet team is obviously on the river a lot um sometimes and so I mean there's a huge safety component to all of that right a public safety component and also a safety component whenever it comes to people living along the river it can be really dangerous so that's again I just wanted to say you know what are we doing when we're looking at revitalization projects in rda2 and thank you for thinking of that and I know that that's your space in baileywick so I look forward to seeing what your kind of vision is and what you want to do in the future yeah quick correction is that we will have with that River master plan we will have um budgets and projects it'll just have to be decided on how those are paid for through RDA or other funds um but we will have a plan in the short term awesome thanks okay all right any final comments Mr Reese mam vice mayor I think it's just a outstanding presentation um I think to just yeah Monumental opportunity for our fire uh Public Safety folks it is uh speaks I think to the value we've placed on making sure that they have a permanent home uh and it's been a long time so it's taken a long time to get here and so through your good Financial stewardship and Leadership we've been able to get there so I'm excited for all our folks in the public safety uh Reno fire to have this opportunity and and to move forward on this timeline makes absolute sense yeah thank you um and then council member I you were out but we're just doing a final round of comments on the presentation we saw no questions in this okay all right well with that um do we need a motion for you yes madame vice mayor I moved to direct staff to move forward with the development of the fiscal year 20242 budget based on the feedback from the board all right and is there second all right so we have a motion from Mr V second from Mr Martinez all in favor please say I I I any opposed all right motion passes unanimously uh we're going we don't have ordinances de either another opportunity to comment on Redevelopment agency issues here under item F1 any comments all right see none I'll close that item out and move on to there are no G H I'm sorry h a final public comment Madam clerk Madam vice mayor for the record we did receive two letters of correspondents after 4m. yesterday they have been distributed to the Reno city council there were two letters of opposition and with that we have no additional public comment just looking for just so I understand opposition to what was in this I think it was for just in general about the budget so more General about the budget okay all righty um okay well with that and is there any final public a comment you said online or in the room okay well with that I'm looking for a motion to adjourn motion to adjourn Mr Martinez second and Miss Taylor all right we have a motion in second all in favor please say I I I any opposed we are adjourned thank you so much for participating