e [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] please rise and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance well first of all welcome everybody to the new and remodeled Chambers where I think we're the first meeting to be held in here and so uh bear with us if uh and I see a lot of Staff here seeing how we do so just because something goes wrong doesn't mean it's technology it could be user error so if y'all will bear with us tonight we're all getting used to the new technology and so we may have a few fumbles so um with that said I'll move us to the consent agenda consent agenda the consent agenda will be acted upon in one motion and contains items that are routine and typically non-controversial items may be removed from this agenda for individual consideration by Commissioners or staff does any commissioner wish to remove anything from the consent agenda commissioner L felter I move that we approve the consense agenda as recommended by staff commissioner Brony second a motion by commissioner Langan felter um seconded by commissioner bronsky to approve the consent agenda as presented everybody please vote that vote passes 8 to zero and had some registered speakers here that if in case we needed you it didn't look like we needed you so thank youall for joining us tonight all right um item onea items for individual consideration public hearing items unless instructed otherwise by the chair speakers will be called in the order registrations are received applicants are limited to a total of 15 minutes of presentation time with a 5 minute rebuttal if needed remaining speakers are limited 30 total minutes of testimony time with three minutes assigned per speaker the presiding officer May modify these times as deemed necessary administrative consideration items must be approved if they meet City development regulations legislative consideration items are more discretionary except as constrained by legal considerations agenda item number onea is a preliminary repap for Plano West Senior High School block A Lot 1 R this is a public school in one lot of 42.8 Acres located at the northwest corner of Parker Road in Willow Ben Drive the property is currently zoned agriculture agricultural excuse me and single family residence line applicant is Plano Independent School District this item is for administrative consideration agenda item number one B is for preliminary regat and revise site plan for Plano West Senior High School block a lot 2 R this is a public school on one lot of 58.1 Acres located at the southwest corner of Willow Drive in Yuri Road the property is currently zoned agricultural and single family residence line applicant is Plano Independent School District this item is for administrative consideration hello oh there it goes uh good evening Commissioners my name is John Kim planner with the planning department uh on the screen here is the lot one R of the Plano West High School and this one is the preliminary replat only and then here is the proposed plan per plat and here is Lot 2 R which is just North of lot one R and here's the plat and then here is the Revis site plan so staff recommends approval for item 1 a preliminary replat and item 1 B the preliminary replat subject to additions and or alterations to the engineering plans as required by the engineering department and for the revised site plan on item 1B it is recommended for approval subject to Plano Plano fire rescue approval of a variance of the 150 foot Hosley requirement I'm available for any questions commissioner commissioner do you all have any questions for staff on this item item one a or 1B commissioner Al so I wanted to know so like along the north side of here no the one before this one yeah see like there's a white area in between so there's a hatched area and there's like a white the the line you see on page 38 is the um 200 foot notice boundary so when we send a this is a residential replat we have to send notice to all other Lots within the subdivision within 200 feet they receive a notice okay and my other question you be on the where the tennis courts are going to be uh it says you know like it was parking and it's you know like two lots when R right yes so what's going to happen to this parking so there was a parking uh performance agreement um with the site plan that was approved in 2012 I believe and so there was a agreement to allow deferred parking I believe it was 500 um somewhere in the middle 500 spaces and that was allowed to defer if that was ever needed in the future and then with the revised plans um there was a reduction to the needed for what one R and so the 20% reduction was granted as well as a variance from the board of adjustments and so that that parking event that parking e event is now gone through this so it's not prary the whole thing is not needed anymore correct okay thank you Commissioners any other questions for staff Comm W did you have another question okay okay commissioner brof thank you Mr chairman um approv uh yes they have they have told me that they intend to approve it oh they intend to approve it they haven't formally done it yet well they have sent me a letter um I guess I don't know exactly how they formally approve it but they told me that do we still need to the condition to to a motion approving this if they if they've already approved it then there's no need for a condition based on their future approval that's all I'm saying I think at this point we don't know for sure that we have their approval and we would recommend that the condition St okay thank you Commissioners any other questions seeing none thank you Mr Kim I'll open the public hearing do we have an applicant here tonight would like to address the commission if not do we have any registered speakers we do not okay I'll close the public hearing um reserve the comments to the commission any other questions or comments commissioner Oly I move we approve agenda item number 1 a and 1B preliminary rep subject to additions and alterations to the engineering plans as required by engineering department we need need separate motions if you I move we approve agenda item number onea subject to additions or alterations recommended by the engineering department apparently you guys hit your button at the same time so I'm going to go with Mr Bruno okay second all right um commissioner Lang felter Bender do youall have comments you'd like to make before the vote no no okay um Everybody cast their vote please motion passes 8 to zero item one B move we approve agenda item number one B uh subject to approval by plane of fire rescue of the VAR as to the 150 foool lay requirement commissioner brunov would the motion include also subject to additions and alterations to the engineering plans and also subject to alterations as recommended by the engineering department second the motion all right um we have a motion in a second any comments from the commission seeing none everybody cast their vote motion passes 8 to zero item number two agenda item number two is a request to amend plan development 71 Regional commercial to modify development standards and the adopted open space plan on 89.1 Acres located on the west side of the Dallas North Tollway 305 ft north of Park buard the property is Zone plan development 71 Regional commercial with specific use permit number 570 for automobile leasing renting and is located within the Dallas North Tollway overlay District practitioners are a centennial waterfall Willow Bend LLC the nean Marcus Group LLC Macy's retail Holdings LLC and Dillard's Inc this item was tabled on November 4 2024 thank you commission my name is Molly Corel senior planner with the planning department and I apologize my scen is showing a different I I think that's supposed to be normal thank you the applicant is requesting to table this item to the January 6th 2025 Planning and Zoning commission meeting staff did meet with the applicants the week before Thanksgiving to go over the proposed concept plan revisions and they are looking into a design that would include more Town Homes than previously proposed uh tbling this item allows them more time to rework this concept plan and work with staff in order to prepare the item for the proposed Planning and Zoning Commission meeting I'd be happy to answer any questions and thank you very much Commissioners questions for staff nobody okay thank you very much I'll open the public hearing do we have an applicant here that would like to speak does the commission have any questions for the applicant commissioner bronsky Mr DOL I appreciate you being here um I have a concern that uh make sure that we're making wise use of your time as well as the staff and with all of the holidays and things and this having been tabled once now I wonder if you guys might feel a little more comfortable having it tabled to the January 21st uh Planning and Zoning meeting to be sure that everything can be done and we don't have to do this a third time I definitely don't want to do it a third time I appreciate the concern Mr I to interrupt you just introduce yourself for the record please I'm sorry Bill dstr 2323 Ross Avenue thank you representing the applicant um as Kel said we did meet with the city staff a couple weeks ago we've already made significant changes to the concept plan to the site plan and and there aren't many changes to the PD stipulations so we feel as if we're in a position now we can get it in and move forward with the process and the developer is under the gun to get things done quickly so if we could keep the January 6th agenda we would prefer that yes sir yeah so I'm I'm not opposed to keeping it on the on that day I just want to make sure that we're not being unrealistic and end up in in a position where you guys discover you want to make some more changes and we have to keep pushing it out I don't think they're going to make any more changes from what we've seen but I I do appreciate it we we I feel comfortable that we are great I look forward to seeing it then thank you thank you sir commission any other questions for the applicant seeing none do we have any other speakers register for this item we do not close the public hearing commissioner langfelder I move that we Grant the applicant the to be able to table this item to the uh January 6th uh meeting commissioner bronsky I second so we have a motion by commissioner Lean felter seconded by commissioner bronsky to table the item to the January 6th 2025 agenda everybody please vote we're getting there there we go please vote all right that passed 8 to zero but then our screens went blank I apologize Commissioners we need a minute many just there we go that's where we left off all right are we back okay we get it Commissioners we good oh you don't have the right screen okay is e e they're rebooting for screen do we need to recess for a minute let y'all work on this or do we think we can get there one more minute okay one more one more minute and then we'll take a recess if we need to all right we good we back sir all right item number three all right items for individual consideration nonpublic hearing items the presiding officer will permit limited public comment for items on the agenda not posted for public hearing cting officer will establish time limits based upon the number of speaker requests length of the agenda and to ensure meeting efficiency and may include a total time limit agenda item number three conveyance plan Encore closet station block a lot one for one conveyance lot on 18.6 Acres located on the east side of Jupiter Road 215 ft north of State Highway 190 the property is Zone light industrial 1 and research Technology Center and located within the state highway 90 Plano Parkway overlay District this item is for legislative consideration thank you this is a complaint this is a conveyance plot for the existing Encore electrical transmission lines and is the same subject property for the specific use permit and preliminary site plan that the commission made a decision to approve on the November 18th pnz meeting the subdivision and then here's graphic for the plan the subdivision ordinance does require that all non-residential lots have a minimum of two points of access to a public Street this proposed lot will actually have a single point of access from a shared access easement with the property directly south you can see on this slide I put a red circle around the access easement where the proposed entry will be the commission may approve the lot only having one point of access based on the criteria shown here and based on the staff analysis provided to the Commission in the packet two points of access cannot be obtained based on the existing conditions surrounding the site and the minimum distance between driveways required as dictated by the street design standards therefore staff is recommending approval subject to the subject to approval of the subdivision ordinance variance as well as approval of the related zoning case which is scheduled to go on City Council on this December 9th thank you and I'm happy to answer any questions commission any questions for staff seeing none I spoke too soon CH Ry uh two questions one for my memory and for public education can you Enlighten us as to why we require two access points for nonresidential lot that is a great question I'll let Michael Bell answer that yes the purposes for Public Safety so that there are two points for emergency access essentially one of those require to be directly from the street the second be can be via a shared access eement from another property got you which leads to the second question um if my memory shows me right um when we approved the Su the applicant uh walked us through the fire suppression selfcontained fire suppression within the site I presume engineering and plane of Fire got the same information yes that's correct thank you Comm L uh you like we know that they're going to have a shared access from the lot you know like to the South uh do we know that this is you know like is there like a something in writing you know or do or do they own this property the access easement is already recorded So I just pulled up the graphic around the red circle the volume and page number is a recorded document that does show that the access easement is existing and in order to have that access easement removed that would have to be done by plat and uh city the city would not allow that access easement to be removed because it would eliminate the only point of access for this lot so yeah thank you of course Mr brunov oh sorry oh there you go yes if there's no further discussion I'm prepared to make a motion I I need to see if we have any speakers do you of one second we have any speakers on this item we do not okay commissioner Bruno um I make a motion that we approve agenda item number three with specific findings that a second point of access cannot be obtained and that traffic safety and Fire Protection are sufficient at the site does that hang on commissioner bronsky so does that include the recommendations by staff as enumerated on page 50 yes as well yes so then I'll second that all right we have a motion in a second motion by commissioner brunov second by commissioner bronsky do we have any other discussion by the commission seeing none I please vote motion passes 8 to zero it number four item number four preliminary site plan Jupiter mobile edition block a lot one for a convenience store with fueling station on one lot on 0.5 acre located at the southeast corner of 14th Street in Jupiter Road the property is zoned retail the applicant is Texas prudent investment Inc this item is for legislative consideration thank you this uh this is a request for a preliminary site plan for the Redevelopment of an existing fuel station and tire repair shop it's located on the Southeast corner of Jupiter Road and 14th Street and the proposed preliminary site plan shows uh a Redevelopment that would be a new retail building that will replace the existing tire repair building uh as you can see where it's located as well as other related site improvements such as uh new fuel canopy and um parking things like that the applicant is also requesting a 20% parking reduction as part of this proposed Redevelopment and the red dots on this graphic represent each proposed parking space uh none of which are located under the fuel canopy I wanted to point out um while Vehicles May Park Under The Canopy to purchase fuel these spaces are not counted and pnz uh May Grant up to a 20% parking reduction and parking reductions can be considered based on the following criteria uh staff analysis was provided to the Commission in the staff report uh however in summation the proposed project meets all of the criteria listed and no parking issues are anticipated by granting a 20% parking reduction therefore staff is recommending approval for this preliminary site plan with a 20% parking reduction as requested and thank you I'd be happy to answer any questions commission we have any questions for staff a question about the setbacks you like the 30 there's 30 and 50 or 39 and 50 setback so why was so there is a recorded 20 foot building l setback already on the site that's already existing on site which is why it's being shown however by our zoning we have a 39t setback for fuel canopies M uh and that is the setback being shown the 50 Foot setback is the building setback so it's showing that the retail building is within the 50ft setback the fuel canopy is within the 39t setback and then there's an existing 20ft building line on the site which is what is being shown so you like so the dumpsters are within the 20 foot or they should should they be you like on the 39 or the 50 um the reason why I'm asking is because you're like now it's shown that the dumpster is not within the building line and usually they you request that the dumpsters also comply with the setbacks right that's that's correct um in this case the ordinance actually has a provision that if there is an established building line that the building line can control so in this case the 39 ft is sufficient yeah but you like but it is also in you know like uh it is beyond the 39 right there's a 20 foot building line recorded so is it like the 20 20 building line is what controls correct okay so the reason I'm asking because you like if it's not within the required setback so it should be pushed so the building is going to be smaller and parking requirement would be less but you like as long as it's within the recorded yeah setb okay thank you thank you Comm Ry um I see only one accessible parking space out of the 13 I actually count 12 spaces I can't find the 13 but that's neither here or there do we have a a ratio requirement for accessible parking spaces we do and I don't have the exact number but we do have like a range from to this many to this many parking spaces this is how many Ada spaces are required um going up to like 400 parking spaces uh however based on the amount of parking spaces proposed 18 adaa space is required that's in our ordinance thank you thank you any other questions I have one is there a is it an ordinance that we don't count the spaces by the gas pumps um it doesn't explicitly say in our ordinance that we don't count in the gas pumps but our ordinance does have Provisions for driveway aisle distances dimensions and everything like that and since you don't typically stripe a parking space under a fuel canopy typically I guess because it's not explicitly mentioned from my recall my recollection that's correct it's if there's a vehicle fueling station by vehicle pumps without the convenience store then they can count towards those spaces if it's just the convenience store which is treated like retail then the pumps do not count thank you that's been yeah it's not explicitly written that way but that's been how it's been applied across the city having had a recent Thanksgiving weekend experience at a bues I know a lot of their parking is next to fuel pumps so uh and they stay way too long um so this something I was curious about all right uh commissioner brunov thank you uh Mr chairman you just touched on what I wanted to ask um it seems to me what we don't want is people parking next to the Gas Pump and then going inside the building to do retail shopping and depriving people of of access to the gas pumps so is is with the 20% reduction you have enough parking spaces remaining of the 13 to where there there should not be a problem with people just sort of camping out at at the gas pump that is correct I will say who Am Among Us is not guilty of parking at a gas station to put pay the cashier $20 and then also buying a pack of Twizzlers or something you know for your gas but anyways yes but the purpose is that you don't count them because they're not really parking spaces but people might park there go inside pay for gas and then come back to their car to fuel their vehicle but I don't mind that I just mind somebody stopping at the gas pump going inside not buying gas but go you know parking that would be upsetting yeah that would be up okay thank you commissioner bronsky I have to be the first one to admit that I have done that usually at a gas station that's not very busy but so my question is uh you're requesting a reduction to 13 but when I count the dots we're at 14 the request is 20% Which would be 13 spaces 12.8 13 spaces however they are showing 14 spaces on site I believe that this flexibility could offer some Pro Provisions in the site plan stage uh I think it's about 88.5% per parking space that the reduction is so my my thought was uh I I noticed that there was only one handicapped accessible parking and um I was curious how that was counted because it seemed to me that we might like to have more than just one place for a handicapped accessible parking there a handicap spot is counted as a parking spot they are yeah that's correct and I want to I just want to clarify on the table that you mentioned earlier there's one space required for the first there's one handicap accessible space required for the first 25 parking spaces okay yeah no I just I've seen extra handicap spots especially in gas stations and I wanted to clarify the 14 that I was looking at as opposed to the 13 we were uh being asked to Grant yes I I do apologize for the confusion but I will clear up that there are 14 spaces on site 88 spaces do count as a parking space space you don't have to add extra Ada spaces on top of the required parking so it's 14 spaces total however 20% would be 13 spaces no I understand what you're talking about the flexibility I just wanted to make sure it's clear in my own head thank you very much I appreciate that other questions commission register Speak oh sorry didn't see you Mr LEL so um I I I think you're fine with the parking but I just it does seem to be an issue uh is there a reason why they went with parallel parking on that west side instead of head- in parking because they could probably get about three extra spots if they turn that that is a great question commissioner Lincoln felter thank you so uh an original or a previous iteration of this actually did have you know three head in parking however we do have corner lot Landscaping requirements along type D thoroughfare intersections which require about 900 squ fet minimum of landscaping at the corner so the uh recomposition of that parking spaces allowed that 900 ft addition I think about 1100 actually but that was for the purpose of having Corner a lot Landscaping at Jupiter and 14th anybody else Mr Bender uh not not a question for staff but a comment um and I just pointing out you know we are accommodating existing site here right so there limitations that were accommodating with this existing business this is a redeveloped site so yes it's the the proposed R it's a proposed Redevelopment I would I would know along those lines it it was originally developed as a convenience store under older regulations so this lot does not mean does not meet the typical lot size requirements under the current ordinance as well it did not require corner lot Landscaping at the time of original approval so they are working with some limited space given when they were originally developed okay anybody else we have any registered speakers on this item there are none all right commission commission bronsky uh I am moved that we approve uh the reduction of 20% as requested and recommended by staff commissioner Al got your microphone on yeah I'll second okay motion by commissioner bronsky seconded by commissioner Al Al everybody please vote motion passes 8 to zero item number four item number five oh agenda item number oh five I'm sorry that's okay is a presentation and discussion of the zoning and subdivision ordinance rewrite diagnostic report and an update on Project progress all right good evening commission my name is Jordan Ro senior planner in the planning department uh the diagnostic report is in your packet and you will be receiving your presentation from our consultant tonight so uh Daniel Harrison and Dan sefco will be providing that for you welcome sir if you just good evening uh my name is Dan sefco with friez and Nichols and with me tonight is Daniel Harrison project manager here we go if I could ask you to stay close to the microphone please thank you thank you thank you Mr chairman members of the Planning and Zoning commission we're uh representing frie Nichols uh as uh contracted by uh city of Plano on the rewrite of all of the planning and zoning and subdivision regulations and so it's a it's a uh large job and uh we're very appreciative that the city has entrusted us to assist uh you all in doing this so with me tonight as I mentioned is Daniel Harrison um he is the project manager and he's going to make a presentation here in a in a few moments uh we have started we've been working with the uh rewrite committee the uh the the main item that we're asking the Planning and Zoning commission to consider tonight is acceptance of the report so if you deem it appropriate we would like you to uh accept the report and then if you choose to do so uh we will then go on and ask the same to the city council so um the agenda tonight is five items you can see here on your screen but basically we're going to summarize where we are go through the process uh talk about a few key points of how the comprehensive plan is driving our input U how we've worked with the various uh uh participants in the process our outreach program uh some of the major topics that we're uh addressing and then of course leave time for questions and answers from the Planning and Zoning commission Daniel thank you so as you sort of see on the screen here we're going through some different phases in the report and the life of the project so the first part is we're looking at the diagnostic report so what we're doing is taking a look at the current codes and asking people who use the the zoning and the subdivision ordinance uh their experiences the feedback they have we go through an analysis of both codes uh we work with staff to develop the diagnostic report and so now that we have the diagnostic report and are showing it to you and also to the council uh we'll move into phase two of the project that's the actual rewriting of the different sections of the code and then the final phase of the report will be the adoption process so if we really wanted to look at a project summary if someone was asking you what is the code update really about uh the code's really going to position the city uh for the future by implementing the comprehensive plan uh that was a very important part of going through this process of looking at the comprehensive plan and that Vision has been spelled out and we the the city went through a big effort to update that plan and so we already have a lot of the recommendations and the Visions set out uh in that document and then the second part really is modernizing and streamlining the regul regulations uh for the for the process governed by the code uh we know infill and Redevelopment is really uh what we're looking at the comprehens of plan sort of guided us and sort of explained you know yes uh we're looking at Redevelopment so so that is how uh if we're trying to summarize what's going on in the in the update that's really the summary so some o overarching themes uh we wanted a community outreach and and a stakeholder driven process uh we had 20 different uh uh sessions with stakeholders over 70 people participated in that uh we're also having a project website updates on on uh the city website as well as discussion Council updates pnz updates uh office hours that we can offer the public to come and sit down and and here I have a question about how this may affect my property could you explain that that's an opportunity that we have to do that of course we'll have public hearings as as you know mode zoning and subdivision will'll have those public hearings uh Citywide mailing notices that's part of the process too posting in the Dallas Morning News so different opportunities for for outreach uh other themes uh project objectives uh we want to incentivize economic uh development help meet housing needs is outlined in the conferen of plan simplifying uh Redevelopment of course when we're taking a look at this cities don't too often take a whole look at how all the zoning and subdivision regulations coordinate together that's an opportunity that we have to streamline really make a userfriendly document Implement some industry standards that we think will help benefit uh the city and the residents and the businesses and implement the land use priorities and once again that big item at the bottom was align with the comprehensive plan and in the document we show uh the comprehensive plan has policies and and action items and we really wanted to connect our recommendations in the document to the comprehensive plan so here's just an example that you can see on the screen where we have a recommendations talking about backyard cottages and let's take a look what did the comprehensive plan uh say about that so you can see the different uh policies that we have in the comprehensive plan and we have a table here so everyone could see that so looking at some of the the high PRI topics that we have that's the general ones uh once again tailoring for infill and Redevelopment we talked about number two consolidating the zoning and subdivision into a unified development code so they'll be living in one document optimizing the development process and and the pth to success uh we talked about some alternative compliance some flexibility to address some of our infill and Redevelopment needs and utilizing graphics and uh improving the readability of the document uh looking at just zoning uh reassessing the current zoning districts we have some overlaps we have some direction from the conference of plan to look at mixed use so there's some things that we can do within our zoning districts whether we're talking about consolidating or possibly expanding uh talked about parking at the last item same here parking's a big issue so that's one thing that we're looking forward to addressing uh effectively managing housing regulations within the code once again looking at the conference plan for that guidance uh calibrating the plan development zonings to promote uh good good good land use outcome and priori prioritizing context sensitive outcomes and that's looking at different parts of the city because uh as we have different parts of the city that are unique uh we're not trying to have one blanket solution for things we're trying to look at our different areas to provide the appropriate Solutions and then lastly on the subdivision regulations increasing the flexibility of the subdivision standards to support Redevelopment uh there's some distinguishing of some private Street types that were going to be helpful clarifying the need and the role of the various plat types from conveyance plats to development plats and improving requirements for certain types of security how to uh make sure that uh we we're having construction Improvement or whether it's maintenance Improvement uh Rel related to our planning so once again really focusing on implementing the plan and looking forward to how do we streamline and modernize the code after today what we'll do is we'll uh present to the council to uh let them uh see the same presentation and then once again really start working on our module developments that phase two of the code update and so with that we'll uh I guess I'll turn it back over to Jordan and if there's any questions we'll be happy to answer those commission I'm GNA lead off if you don't mind I've had the opportunity to to chair this group and uh commissioner bronsky as the vice chair of that group as well and so we've set through all these meetings and um I think uh the best way I know how to explain what we're actually looking at tonight is a detailed scope of work of the work we're going to do this is we don't have any of the answers at this point well we have some maybe have some but the purpose of this document is to identify all the questions and so um we've we had a great Committee of some a lot of people that really know the details and ins and outs of how the zoning ordinance has worked both on the private sector the public sector and uh great cross-section uh really really have a strong committee and uh everybody participates and does their homework and comes prepared to the meetings and I feel like we've had some really really great sessions so far so um we've had we we got down to I think punctuation on this document at our last meeting um and and I we did have one sentence that was left pending to be Wordsmith after our last meeting and so do you have that handy can you throw that up on the screen or is that something you can read out loud just so that commissioner bronsky and I given that we were well I guess you missed the the meeting where we where we Wordsmith that so just to see how that turned out before we move forward yes uh the last page or page 15 of your document in the diagnostic report it's item 413 um we're talking about establishing infill and Redevelopment standards and through that discussion the last sentence we added uh finally the new code should establish procedures to evaluate infill projects and to incorporate standards to better accommodate infill uh development and Redevelopment yep that that last sentence right there okay sorry that was our infill and Redevelopment sentence that yall were word smithing for us that's correct Perfect all right I think that was the last item that wasn't completely resolved at our last committee meeting so correct all right so with with all that said um I'll open it up to the commission commissioner bronsky yeah so I just wanted to uh acknowledge everything that our chair just said uh I I'm really happy that we chose Freez and Nichols to come back and work with us I feel like uh them living through the process of the development of our comprehensive plan to me this really is um bringing all of the hard work that Council pnz the comprehensive plan commission and all of the Outreach and efforts that Freez and Nichols did in developing the new comprehensive plan bringing it to um final implementation the final piece of the puzzle that uh we started working on back in I think 2020 uh so uh I'm very proud of the effort and uh certainly the number of individuals we got involved on the committee uh as well as uh choosing you guys to work with us and um finally I'll just say um the intention Outreach that we made in collecting all of this you guys stayed right on point with being purposefully um desirous of hearing what all of the community has to say so that the guidelines that we provide in the comprehensive plan can be flushed out uh now completely into the unified development code so that's my thought thank you commissioner oy ech Echo everything Mike said um I like examples of the city not resting on its accolades and always trying to strive for just a little better and just a little better um this might come and maybe I'm getting ahead of myself looking for a little bit of a preview but you have some large goals in terms of drafting the code language around um appropriate housing mix that reflects the community's preferences conserving open space if you could tease as to how you what kind of framework you would bring to play to start ironing some of that language out um you know my first thought was communi preferences community in that sentence could mean 10,000 different things right um how would you bring the appropriate voices to bear as you you know tease out this language great question because what we do is we take a look at the conference of plan and sort of where we were moving from that and getting the input and as we sort of outlined in the plan and we discussed amongst our our uh uh rewrite advisory committee is plano's done a fabulous job at Greenfield development over the decades and obviously as a result we have a an amazing Community But continuing to be a city of Excellence we look at how are we going to move forward into the Redevelopment stage because because all our Green Field development is basically gone and so how are we going to master and be as good at Redevelopment as we were at the original Greenfield development so that's sort of the attitude we have when we're taking a look at when we think about Redevelopment how are we going to be sure that that we're positioning the city the best way it can and really reflecting the values that people told us uh in the conference of plant process Mak sense I would love to um and I may have missed it in the packet just to get a sense of your Outreach tools how you're getting that voice of the community um maybe the next iteration of this uh presentation we'll get a chance to see that Comm Mr brunov I I'll call on you again no I'll turn your microphone on okay second um I'm used to pushing the button to turn the mic on I I turned it off instead um I just I want to start by thanking the members of the committee and frie and nickel and the and the city staff for the work they've done so far um on this uh challenging task um uh and I appreciate the seriousness and the diligence that you've displayed in in getting this far with it um I agree with you Mr chairman that before you can have answers it's necessary to First identify the questions and I think you've done that you've done an excellent job of that I would just offer the comment that um in devising answers which is the next stage I understand what you're going to be doing um that you try to arrive at a reasonable balance between standards which are necessary and some degree of flexibility um so that we can adapt you know action by the city to whatever individual circumstances may present themselves with each case that comes before the city uh but but recognizing that standards are also necessary and and we have to have those as well so I'm not going to tell you how to do that I'm just saying I think that's an issue that you you should should address I will I will tease a little bit of that we are having a lot of discussions about the boundaries between staff flexibility pnz flexibility and ordinance flexibility and those are um ongoing discussions I guess is probably the best way to put that that I feel certain are nowhere near being resolved yet so but but they are on the table to hopefully be addressed and find that balance so that is something we we're working towards commissioner Bender thank you chairman uh I just wanted to Echo some of the simar comments a great job by friez and Nichols and and the city staff and and reading through this whole document um it kind of leads me some of the same comments that have been made here this evening and it's about thoughtful Redevelopment right because the environment we're in when we do the Redevelopment it's it's thoughtful Redevelopment so I think the things that you've laid out the questions that you've raised are the right ones so job well done thank you Comm L I also wanted to this effort is much appreciated and I think it's soran your microphone just a little bit oh more yes thank you yeah your effort is much appreciated and I guess you know like we needed this change because you like we're getting a lot of rezoning and PD uh cases here so I think you like that's indicates that the current zoning is needs to be uh Revisited and somehow so um yeah appreciate the effort and I think it's uh about time to uh do that thank you Commissioners any other questions if there aren't any I'm going to privilege of the chair I I'm going to make the motion and move that we accept the diagnostic report as presented and um charge the um rewrite committee with moving forward with next steps commissioner bronsky as the vice chair of both I will second your motion right comments questions from the commission all right all everybody please vote passes 8 to zero thank you all very much for everything we're already doing and the work we've got ahead of us than you we will surely see you all again yes sir comments of public interest this portion of the meeting is to allow up to three minutes per speaker with 30 total minutes on items of Interest or concern and not on items that are on the current agenda the Planning and Zoning commission may not discuss these items but may respond with factual or policy information the Planning and Zoning commission may choose to place an item on a future agenda the presiding officer May modify these times as deemed necessary and chair we do not have any registered speakers for this item okay thank you um I do want to acknowledge we've got a lot of staff and folks in the audience today that I think are are here and I want to thank all of yall I know all of y'all have had a role at some level so in in the remodel of this chamber and and um I know you're here to troubleshoot but we do want to acknowledge the effort that all of y'all put in in getting us here and the time we spent over with the library um made us desperate to get back and we know y'all are working hard to get us here and and I just wanted to acknowledge y'all being here while you're here so we could do that publicly so thank you all for everything you've done to get us here um with that commission any other business before the commission tonight all right we will stand adjourned at 655 so you approve the name change in December of 2021 welcome to another episode of Labor of Love next up we've got police digital media forensic Specialists let's go today we're doing a ride along with Plano Police digital media forensic supervisor Brandon sailor he's been with the department 19 years before forensics he was a crime analysis intelligence analyst the job I did before was completely behind the de