>>LUIS VIERA: HERE. >>BILL CARLSON: HERE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE. >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO DO A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING REAL QUICK. WE ARE GOING TO JUMP BACK ON NUMBER 8. WE ALREADY HAD DISCUSSION. I AM GOING TO GET A MOTION TO SEE IF WE CAN MOVE THAT ITEM. AND THEN GO INTO STAFF REPORTS. CHIEF OF STAFF CALLED ME AND SAID WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE ON STANDBY THAT HAVE SUBPOENASS% THIS AFTERNOON SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE FOLKS TO COURT AND DON'T CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE CLERK OVER THERE. I WANT TO TAKE UP NUMBER 8. MR. SHELBY? >> MARTIN? , MR. SHELBY, THOSE WHO WANT TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER 8, I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT. WE JUST NEED TO GET TO A MOTION ON THAT AND ALSO ADVISE THAT THE CHIEF OF STAFF CALLED ME IN REFERENCE TO STAFF PERSONNEL HAVE SUBPOENAS THEY HAVE TO HONOR THIS AFTERNOON. I WANT WANT TO BELABOR THAT. AND WE'LL GET INTO THE STAFF REPORTS. MR. DINGFELDER YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO I AM GOING TO TAKE MR. MIRANDA'S ADVICE. BECAUSE AS WE WERE FINISHING UP THAT DISCUSSION ON THE MODIFIED VERSION OF ITEM 8, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, HE SAID I THINK I MIGHT LIKE THE IDEA BUT WE NEED THE WORKSHOP. AND WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO INSTEAD OF VOTING ON ITEM 8, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE IT AND WORKSHOP IT AT A WORKSHOP, MR. SHELBY, MIGHT SUGGEST -- DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER RELEVANT WORKSHOPS ABOUT ZONINGS OR SOUTH OF GANDY OR ANYTHIN LIKE THAT? TIDEWATER? >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, YES. I BELIEVE THE CLERK HAS SOME ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ASKED TO BE PUT ON THE -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: DEPUTY CLERK, DO YOU HAVE ANY DATES? >> WE HAVE SOME CHAPTER 27 ITEMS FOR MAY 27th. FEW WORKSHOP ITEMS FOR THAT DAY, INCLUDING NUMBER 71 AND 72. >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO ONE OF THEM IS PURE ON MAY 27th. THEN TWO RELATED PURE. THEN CHAPTER 27. AND THE ONE ON THE REFINANCING OF BONDS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT'S ON JOHN -- AND I AM HAVING TROUBLE HEARING YOU, I'M SORRY. >>THE CLERK: I'M SORRY. YOU HAVE HSING AND LEGAL DEPARTMENT, AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ESSENTIAL WORKERS, YOU HAVE A MOBILITY STAFF TO SPEAK ON INSTALLING CROSSWALKS, AND LEGAL DEPARTMENT LOOKING AT THE >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO BE CONSCIOUS, ON THE DAYS OF YOUR WORKSHOPS YOU HAVE NIGHT MEETINGS SCHEDULED. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GO FAR INTO THE AFTERNOONS ON YOUR WORKSHOPS AS YOU MOVE FORWARD. AS A MATTER OF FACT, A SPECIAL DISCUSSION MEETING WHICH WAS FOLLOWED UP BY A VOTE OF COUNCIL, YOU HAD SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED THAT WORKSHOPS SCHEDULED FROM 9 TO NOON OR IF EXTENDED NO LATER THAN 1 P.M. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE JUNE DOESN'T SOUND TOO BUSY. SO WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 8 TO INCORPORATE IT INTO A JUNE WORKSHOP CONSISTENT WITH MR. MIRANDA'S REQUEST, AND ALSO TO INCLUDE MY EARLIER MOTION THAT FAILED. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. DINGFELDER. IS THERE A SECOND? I HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. DINGFELDER. DO I HAVE A SECOND? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT ANYMORE? >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. IN THE SPIRIT OF -- I WILL SUPPORT IT I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT BUT I WILL SECOND IT ONLY FOR PURPOSES OF GETTING A VOTE OF THE HOWEVER, HOWEVER, WE JUST REJECTED A CONTINUANCE OF NUMBER 8, AND I KNOW WE ARE MISSING TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE W SHOULD HOLD OFF UNTIL THEY COME BACK. >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE NO PROBLEM HAVING A VOTE ON IT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WOULD YOU LIKE TO WITHDRAW UNTIL -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF WE CAN DEFER MY MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: NEW BUSINESS? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UNTIL THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE HERE. LET'S JUST RUN THROUGH THE REST OF THIS STUFF. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT. WE'LL DEFER NUMBER 8 TILL A FULL COUNCIL ARRIVES. HOPEFULLY THEY'LL ARRIVE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I APPRECIATE THAT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL MOVE ON INTO STAFF REPORTS. >> CONSENT. DO YOU WANT TO GET STAFF -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, STAFF CALLED ME AND SAID FOLKS ARE WAITING TO GO TO SOME COURT ISSUES. I DON'T WANT TO HOLD THEM UP. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT MANY STAFF REPORTS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET THEM OUT. I KNOW HOW IT IS IN COURT AND HOW THE SYSTEM IS OVER THERE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE CAN CONFIRM WITH THE CLERK BUT FOR INSTANCE ON PAGE 20, 69 THROUGH 73, I THINK HAVE ALL BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. IS THAT RIGHT? >>THE CLERK: YES. THE ONLY ITEMS REMAINING IS 74 AND 75, 77 AND 78. THOSE FOUR ITEMS UNDER STAFF REPORT THAT STILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: 74, 75, 77, 78. >>THE CLERK: CORRECT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU. 74 APPEARS TO BE MR. DINGFELDER'S ITEM. ITEM NUMBER 74. MR. MASSEY OR MR. ROGERO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY QUESTION IS PRETTY SIMPLE AND I THINK WE CAN GET THROUGH 74 PRETTY QUICKLY, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE MEMORANDUM FROM MR. MASSEY BASICALLY WENT AS HE DOES WITH EVERYTHING, VERY THOROUGHLY, WENT THROUGH WHAT'S INVOLVED AND N IMPACT FEES, THAT COMMUNITIES ALL ACROSS THE STATE ARE DOING IMPACT FEES. I THINK THE LEGISLATURE JUST MODIFIED THE IMPACT FEE STATUTE PUICAFETY IMPACT FEES AND IWS AM GETTING A NOD FROM MR. MASSEY, I WILL JUST PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. AND AS FAR AS MR. ROGERO, MR. ROGERO, I DON'T KNOW, BASICALLY I THINK HE SAID YOU ARE LOOKING AT ALL THESE ISSUES AS RELATED TO THE NEEDS OF FIRE AND RESCUE AND THE NEEDS OF TPD, WHICH OF COURSE WE ALWAYS DO REGULARLY. SO MY ONLY REQUEST IS THAT INSTEAD OF JUST DEFERRING AND LETTING IT DRIFT OFF INTO THE WIND, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US BRING IT BACK PERHAPS IN 90 DAYS TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION, UNLESS MR. ROGERO OR MR. MASSEY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BOTH GENTLEMEN ARE OKAY WITH IT. OKAY. >>LUIS VIERA: AND I'M SO SORRY, I WAS READING SOMETHING, JOHN, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. WHAT WAS YOUR MOTION? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 90 DAY CONTINUANCE ON THIS ITEM ABOUT IMPACT FEES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. MR DINGFELDER.S: MOTION FROM SECOND FROM MR. MANISCALCO. >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO WE HAVE A DATE PLEASE? >>THE CLERK: AUGUST 5th. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AUGUST 5th UNDER STAFF REPORTS IN THE AFTERNOON. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. >>LUIS VIERA: AND THANK YOU, SIR. CONSISTENT WITH THAT, I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE REQUESTED THE ADMINISTRATION LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT AMERICAN RELIEF DOLLARS COULD GO IN PART TO FUND FIRE STATIONS THATRE SUCH CRITICAL NEEDS, EVERY TIME I BROUGHT UP STATION 13 HERE, I WOULD PROBABLY BE A MILLIONAIRE BY NOW. YESTERDAY I WAS AT K-BAR RANCH AND THAT'S ANOTHER AREA THAT HAD SOME SERIOUS FIRE SAFETY DEFICITS. CHANNELSIDE, OBVIOUSLY ANOTHER CRITICAL AREA, ET CETERA. SO I THINK THIS IS PART OF A CONVERSATION IN TERMS OF HOW WE ARE GOING TO FUND PUBLIC SAFETY, POLICE, FIRE, ET CETERA, IN OUR VERY MUCH GROWING CITY. BUT I HOPE THAT EVENTUALLY WE CAN GET A FINDING ON THOSE 81 OR SO MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE ARE GETTING WHEREVER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT MAYBE CAN HELP US REDUCE THIS PUBLIC SAFETY DEFICIT THAT WE HAVE. THANK YOU, SIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. 75, DEPUTY CLERK. ITEM 75. MR. VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR. I WAS LAG OVER HERE AT THE REPORT. SO IT SEEMS TO SAY THAT AFTER THE FIRST YEAR OF ENGAGEMENT CITY STAFF WILL EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES TO REFINE AND EXPAND THE PROGRAM. SO WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT DOING IN THIS IS TO TAKE A LOOK THROUGHOUT ALL OF OUR CITY OF TAMPA TO UNDERSERVED AREAS TO SEE IF THE CITY OF TAMPA CAN HAVE SOME SORT OF YOUTH ENGAGEMENT EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM THAT HELPS PUT YOUNG PEOPLE ON A PATH TO BETTER SUCCESS AND COMMUNITY STAKE HOLDING BY GIVING THEM WORK SKILLS, AND HAVING THEM WORK AND HELPING NEIGHBORHOODS, ET CETERA, AND THIS IS MUCH BIGGER, BUT KIND OF WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT IS A MUCH SMALLER VERSION OF R OF MAYBE THE WPA WORKS, NATIONAL YOUTH ASSOCIATION OF THE 30s THAT PUT UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE BACK TO WORK REBUILDING THEIR COMMUNITIES. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT NEED A A LOT OF REBUILDING, EAT TAMPA, SULPHUR SPRINGS, PARTS OF NORTH TAMPA, PARTS OF WEST TAMPA, ET CETERA. AND MANY, MANY OTHER AREAS. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT. SO IF I SEE HERE CORRECTLY FROM THE REPORT, THEY ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT. SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH A REASONABLE DELAY, BUT I AM GOING TO MOTION -- AND IF I MAY I WILL JUST DO IT NOW, MAYBE TO COME BACK WITH AN UPDATE ON THIS PROCESS IN SIX MONTHS, THE FIRST WEEK IN OCTOBER. AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IF WE CAN ALL SUPPORT INCLUDING THE ADMINISTRATION, I KNOW 110%, AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION, JUST TO KEEP THAT UP. >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU HAVE A DATE FOR THAT? OCTOBER 7th? MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MR. VIERA, SECONDED BY MR. CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 77. MR. MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. I SPOKE ABOUT THIS EARLIER. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAD MADE SOME COMMENTS AS WELL. BUT I HAD LOOKED AT THE CODE, AND I SAW THAT SHOULD YOU MOVE SECTION 27-283.11-B, AND YOU PUT IT INTO SECTION 15-4.5, IT WOULD GIVE MORE AND BETTER AUTHORITY TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO TICKET OR ISSUE CITATIONS TO PEOPLE UNDER -- ON THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY AND WHATNOT, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND WHATNOT, THAT ARE THROUGHOUT WEST TAMPA, THROUGHOUT THE CITY, HYDE PARK, SOUTH TAMPA, I CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT COMPLAINTS I RECEIVED IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. I HAVE RECEIVED A MEMO HERE AS EVERYBODY HAS, AND I SEE MR. BHIDE AND OTHERS FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, I THINK MR. PEREZ IS THERE, TOO, HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. SO MY QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO -- DO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO SET THIS FOR FIRST READING? HOW DO WE MOVE THIS PROCESS FORWARD SIR? >>PATRICK PEREZ AZIROMYN CITY ATTORNEY. YES, MY MEMO, I HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT ALSO ON IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THEM. BASICALLY, THE MOTION WAS TO INVESTIGATE MOVING SECTION 287, OR 27-283. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS ACTUALLY CROSS REFERENCE AND KEEP IT IN CHAPTER 27, CROSS REFERENCE CHAPTER 15 WHICH WOULD ALLOW TPD TO USUAL YOU VIOLATIONS WHILE TOONTIE TO ENFORCE THEFORCEMENT ZONING CODES. SO BASICALLY WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION IN THERE FOR PROPOSED LANGUAGE TO AMEND SECTION 15-4.5, SO WE JUST NEED A RECOMMENDATION FROM COUNCIL TO GO THROUGH THAT ROUTE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT MOTION FOR WHAT YOU JUST EXPLAINED REGARDING SECTION 15-4.5, SO WE CAN USE THE AUTHORITY HERE LEGALLY, SO IT'S DEFENSIBLE AND WE ARE PROTECTED, BUT STILL WE CAN ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE AGAIN I GET CALLS THAT SUNDAY MORNING, YOU KNOW? I TRY NOT TO BOTHER ANYBODY ON SUNDAY MORNING BUT IT'S PART OF THE JOB. I GOT A CALL AT 8 A.M. ONE SUNDAY, AND RIGHTFULLY SO. I MEAN, PEOPLE HAVE WAITED FOR YEARS FOR SOME KIND OF ENFORCEMENT. THERE ARE MANY RECKLESS AND IRRESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUALS THAT PARK WHEREVER THEY FEEL LIKE WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS. WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATION TO PEOPLE ON BIKES OR CHILDREN. THIS IS A MAJOR SAFETY ISSUE. AND I DON'T WANT BLOOD ON MY GETTING KILLED OR ANY OTHERBY PROBLEM, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE JUST SO MY MOTION THEN WOULD BE THAT -- AND DO YOU NEED A SPECIFIC TIME FOR THIS? DOES IT HAVE TO GO TO AN ORDINANCE OR FIRST READING? >>MARTIN SHELBY: FIRST READING. >>PATRICK PEREZ: IT WILL BE AMENDING THE ORDINANCE, AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK IF WE COULD FOR FIRST READING ON CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 3rd. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THE MOTION WOULD BE TO BRING THIS BACK SECTION 15-4 .35 FOR FIRST READING. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A DRAFT ORDINANCE OR AN ORDINAN EPARED FOR FIRST READING FOR THE MEETING JUNE 3rd. DID YOU GET ALL OF THAT? THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT ALREADY HAS THE LANGUAGE IN PLACE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN JUST SO IT'S CLEAR, I BELIEVE THAT MR. PEREZ SAID THAT HE CAN HAVE -- LEGAL DEPARTMENT CAN HAVE IT PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION ON THAT DAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE THAT DAY AND MOVE IT FORWARD. I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH SO I CAN RESPOND TO MY CONSTITUENTS, BECAUSE I AM IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THEM, AS MANY OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE, SO THEY KNOW THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH PROPER ENFORCEMENTND THEY ARE BEING LISTENED TO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO HAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. ANYBODY OPPOSED? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO FOR BRINGING IT UP AND DOING A VERY GOOD JOB, AND A SEMI WITH TAMPA TRACTOR AND TRAILER AND THEY'LL LEAVE IT BARKED ON ARMENIA AVENUE AND THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT TAKE THE DRIVER'S VEHICLES AND TRACTOR AND TRAILER AND LEAVE IN THE A PARKED AREA BUT THEY CHARGE FOR IT. SO THEY ARE LEAVING IT OUT ON THE STREET, AND SOME KID RUNS OUT, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SEE IT. THEY AREN'T GOING TO SEE THE CAR, THE CAR ISN'T GOING TO SEE THEM. AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, THEY'LL TAKE THE TRACTOR HOME, PARK IT ON THEIR FRONT YARD, CHANGE THE OIL. I GOT PICTURES OF ALL THAT. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING. I UNDERSTAND WHY. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, ENVIRONMENTALLY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IT'S JUST A CHAOTIC THING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TO GO THROUGH. I APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO IS DOING. >>ORLANDO GES: R. CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: THANKS ALSO FOR BRINGING THIS UP. THE OTHER THING IS THAT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WE WORKED WITH CHIEF BENNETT ON A UNIT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT OR EXPANDING THE UNIT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT TO HELP REQUEST PARKING, AND I HAD SOME CONVERSATION WITH HIM LAST WEEK ABOUT TWEAKING THAT A LITTLE BIT ALSO SO THAT IT COULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE AS IT'S STARTING TO ROLL OUT. BUT THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM. ILLEGAL PARKING IN NEIGHBORHOODS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST AREAS OF COMPLAINTS THAT I GET. SO I APPRECIATE ANY HELP TO RECTIFY THAT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO. SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. NUMBER 78. >>KELLY AUSTIN: DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND TALENT DEVELOPMENT IS ON THE LINE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD AFTERNOON. >> AT FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO QUICKLY SAY THANK YOU TO CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO FOR HIS SERVICE AS CHAIR AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, CHAIRMAN GUDES, ON YOUR NEW APPOINTMENT. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION AROUND ITEM NUMBER 78, WHICH IS REGARDING ALL THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, ON STANDBY FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I MADE THAT MOTION. AND I JUST NEEDED SOME CLARIFICATION. I DID READ THE MEMO, BUT AGAIN I DID MAKE A PHONE CALL TO YOU. AND WE KIND OF DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT. IT WAS A LITTLE VAGUE IN REFERENCE TO A STUDY, REVIEW AND NUMBERS. I DON'T THINK A LOT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD CHIME IN AS MUCH BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR ON WHAT WE ARE GOING T DO. BECAUSE AS I LOOK AT THE SPREADSHEET OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS, CITIES ABOUT OUR SIZE, THIS CITY IS GROWING, AND IT'S GROWING RAPIDLY, AND WHEN I LOOK AT OTHER PLACES TO COMPARABLE PAY, WE ARE LAGGING BEHIND. AND I TALK ABOUT THE CITY AS A WHOLE. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE PAY SCALE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES. AND AGAIN WHEN IS THE LAST TIME A STUDY HAS BEEN DONE TO MATCH UP TO OTHER CITIES WITHIN THE STATE, A ROUND THE STATE, WORKFORCE THAT WE HAVE. SO YOU CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT SO THIS COUNCIL CAN KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THAT, AND WE STILL HAVEN'T GOT THE CART TO MOVE WITH THE HORSE YET. >>KELLY AUSTIN: SURE. THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK. IF I COULD JUST ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS, NOT SPECIFIC TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE BUT THE PROCESS IN GENERAL, AND THAT WILL ONLY TAKE JUST A MINUTE. WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE WHERE OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE TASKED WITH IDENTIFYING A NEEDS OR CHANGES IN THEIR PARTICULAR AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY REGULARLY ROUTINELY ASK THEMSELVES ARE, HAS MY WORK VOLUME CHANGED? HAS THE PAST BECOME MORE COMPLEX? WHAT KIND OF TIME AM I RUNNING IN MY DEPARTMENT? WE MET WITH THE MAYOR'S JUNIOR STAFF AT LEAST QUARTERLY AND SHE ENCOURAGES US TO LOOK BACK WAND WARDS AND ASK OURS IT IS QUESTION, WHAT TASKS AREN'T NECESSARY, AND CAN SOMETHING BE DONE MORE EFFICIENTLY? AND SO WE ALL ARE TASKED WITH DO. IF WE HAVE A NEED THAT WE IDENTIFIED, AND WE NEED TO BRING THAT FORWARD, DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. AND IF IT IS NOT DONE DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, WHICH AS WE ALL KNOW MANY THINGS HAPPEN DURING THE COPY OF THE YEAR, IF IT'S WHAT WE DO IS WE WORK WITH OUR BUDGET ANALYSTS AND HUMAN RESOURCES AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO, WHICH WE DO DECISIONS, FULL TIME EQUIVALENCYS, WE MIGHT COMBINE SOME VACANCIES, MIGHT CREATE SOME NEW POSITIONS, MIGHT RECLASS OR REGRADE, WHATEVER IT TAGS TO ACCOMPLISH THE MADE NEED TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS MOVING FORWARD AS EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE WHILE BEING BUDGET CONSCIOUS. LAST YEAR, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE CONTACTED HUMAN RESOURCES WITH A COUPLE OF REQUESTS AND AFTER THE ANALYSIS WAS DONE WE WERE ABLE TO CONVERTS ONE PART-TIME POSITION TO A FULL-TIME POSITION, AND ALSO REEXECUTIVED ONE OF THE SALARIES, AND WE SUGGESTED AT THAT TIME PERHAPS SECURING A CONTRACTOR DUE TO AN EXTENDED ABSENCE OF ONE OF THE EMPLOYEES. AS A RESULT OFHIS MOTION, THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND MR. ROGERO AND MYSELF MET WITH BE THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT WERE THE NEEDS ANDS THE REQUESTS THAT WERE NOT BEING MET OR THAT THERE WAS CONCERNS OVER, AND THAT CONVERSATION KIND OF WENT IN TWO LANES, ONE LANE BEING REALLY FOCUSED ON THE FACILITIES, AND THEN THE OTHER LANE BEING FOCUSED ON THE VOLUME OF WORK. AND PERHAPS NECESSARY EVALUATION OF THE DEPARTMENT AND THE TASKS AND THE DUTIES. SO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE WAS GUIDED AT THAT POINT TO MAKE BUDGET REQUESTS, BECAUSE THIS IS A TIME THAT WE ARE DOING THAT EXERCISE, AND THEN CERTAINLY MY OFFICE IS LOOKING AT SOME SALARY COMPARERS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE THING, CHAIRMAN GUDES, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THERE ARE SOME ASPECTS OF OUR COMPENSATION THAT PERHAPS WE PAY LESS THAN OTHERS, BUT WHEN I LOOK ACROSS THERE ARE ALSO MANY, MANY ASPECTS WHERE OUR COMPENSATION IS AT OR GREATER THAN, AND I ALWAYS TRY TO JUST BE MINDFUL OF OUR TOTAL COMPENSATION PLAN WHICH IS NOT JUST THE SALARY, NOT THAT THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT, SO I AM NOT TAKING AWAY FROM THAT, BUT GENERAL EMPLOYEES HAVE A ZERO CONTRIBUTION, GENERAL PENSION AVAILABLE TO THEM, ZERO CONTRIBUTION ON MEDICAL COVERAGE FOR THEMSELVES, ACCESS TO THE WELLNESS CENTER AT NO CHARGE, ZERO COST PRESCRIPTION, YOU KNOW, THE ACCRUAL OF ANNUAL AND SICK LEAVE. SO WE LOOK AT ALL THAT WHEN WE EVALUATE OW HOW WE STAND UP IN THE MARKETPLACE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN W CAN'T ALWAYS DO BETTER OR CONTINUES TO TAKE LOOKS. AS A RESULT OF OUR CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, AND THEN AGAIN, MS. FOXX-KNOWLES WAS DIRECTED TO PUTTING HER REQUESTS INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS, BECAUSE THIS IS THE TIME THAT WE ARE DOING THAT EXERCISE, AND HOPEFULLY BASED ON THAT ANALYSIS WE ARE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE WHATEVER NEEDS ARE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO KEEP ENSURING THAT TASKS AND DUTIES ARE GETTING ACCOMPLISHED IN A TIMELY FASHION. SO THAT WOULD BE OUR GOAL FOR EVERYBODY. AND THAT WAS A LONG-WINDED ANSWER SO I APOLOGIZE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S OKAY. YOU GAVE ME SOME ANSWERS. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE FACILITY I WONDERED WHY IS IT IF WE PUT ALL THIS WORK INTO THE CHAMBERS THAT WE DID NOT BUTT THE WORK INTO THEIR OFFICE OVER THERE? BECAUSE THEY ARE RIGHT NEXT TO US. THERE'S A DOOR RIGHT HERE IN THIS CHAMBERS THAT L. SO TO ME, HOW DO WE NOT ADD THAT ALL IN AT ONE SHOT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS SAFE? WHEN I LOOK AROUND AND SEE THAT, I QUESTION THAT RIGHT AWAY, YOU DID THIS OVER HERE BUT WE STILL HAVE ACCESS. SO I DON'T KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIX THAT THROUGH THE BUDGETING PROCESS AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE SECURE AT WELL BECAUSE PEOPLE COME UP HERE AND WALK THROUGH HERE ALL THE TIME AND GO RIGHT TO THE OFFICE. SO I AM HOPING WE CAN SECURE THEM AS WELL BECAUSE AGAIN THEY NOT ONLY WORK FOR THE ADMINISTRATION, I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, THEY ALSO WORK FOR COUNCIL FOR OUR CHARTER. SO THEY WORK FOR TWO HOUSES. SO WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OVER HERE AS THE CHAIR HERE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MY HOUSE IS PROTECTED AND MAKURE PEOPLE IN MY HOUSE ARE PROTECTED AND THEY ALSO ARE BEING COMPENSATELED CORRECTLY QUESTION I LOOK ACROSS THE SPECTRUM. HOPEFULLY WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS IN ANEW BUDGET YEAR. MR. ROGERO IS ON THE LINE THERE. ALSO WHEN I LOOK AT SALARIES, AND I LOOK AT ADMINISTRATORS, MS. FOXX-KNOWLES, I LOOK AT HER SALARY, HER SALARY IS WAY BELOW EVEN SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATORS HERE WITHIN THE CITY. THAT'S CONCERNING TO ME, HER BEING AN ADMINISTRATOR OVER THE CLERK'S OFFICE WHICH IS A BIG RESPONSIBILITY TOB THIS CITY. SO AM HOPING AND I AM ASKING TO MAKE SURE THAT HER REVIEW IS IN THERE AS WELL SO THIS COUNCIL CAN REVIEW FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET. BECAUSE I THINK SHE NEEDS TO BE COMPENSATED AS WELL, AND NOT JUST SIT BACK AND BE NICE AND WANT TO GO ALONG TO HELP OUT THE OTHER EMPLOYEES, BUT ALSO HELP HERSELF BECAUSE SHE WORKS HARD HERE FOR ALL OF US. SO I'M HOPING THAT IT WILL HAPPEN, AND AGAIN, FACILITYWISE AS WELL, AND AGAIN, I AM GLAD WE ARE LOOKING INTO THIS PROCESS. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE -- >>KELLY AUSTIN: ABSOLUTELY, YES SIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, I SAW YOUR HAND, SIR? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN AND REITERATE WHAT MR. CHAIRMAN HAS SPOKEN TO. IT'S VERY SAD THAT SANDY TOOK ILL, AND SHE DID AN AMAZING JOB FOR 30 YEARS, AND WE ALL LOVE HER DEARLY. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S EVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO COM BACK UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS. INSTEAD, SULING HAS JUMPED IN AND PROBABLY DOING HER FORMER JOBS, AND SOME OF SANDY'S JOBS, AND I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE, BUT I AM SURE THAT THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT READJUSTMENT THAT NEEDS TO GO ON. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. COUNCIL TRIES VERY HARD NOT TO BUTT INTO THE ADMINISTRATION'S PLACE IN TERMS OF SALARIES AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO US BECAUSE WE DO WORK SO CLOLY WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE. SO MAYBE DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS THIS SUMMER WE'LL SEE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. I THINK THAT'S THE DIRECTION MR. CHAIRMAN IS ASKING US TO GO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR THAT. AGAIN, SULING OUT THERE, SHE HAS A LOT OF CREDENTIALS BEHIND HER BELT AT THIS TIME. AND WE HAVE TO ALSO LOOK AT THAT. SHE'S A DEPUTY CLERK OF THE SHE'S NOT A CLERK. SHE'S A DEPUTY CLERK. AND SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. AND HER CREDENTIALS. SHE'S EDUCATED. THERE'S A LOT OF DFERENT SCHOOLS SHE'S BEEN TO NOW ACROSS THE STATE. I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN, BEFORE WE MOVE ON? I THANK BOTH OF YOU VERY, VERY MUCH AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME OF THESE THINGS MOVING FORWARD BEFORE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. >>KELLY AUSTIN: THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THIS AFTERNOON. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A FULL BOARD. DO YOU WANT TO DO ITEM NUMBER 8? >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCIL MEMBERS, SOME OF YOU WERE DELAYED GETTING BACK FROM LUNCH AND I KNOW WE HAVE GUYS GETTING THEMSELVES TOGETHER. MR. DINGFELDER WANTED TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR ITEM 8. I WILL LET HIM GO AND REHASH WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO TELL THE COUNCIL, AND IF HE WOULD LIKE TO PUT ANOTHER MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO GO AHEAD FROM THAT TIME. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AS MR. MIRANDA WAS WRAPPING UP, HE HAD STATED THAT PERHAPS A WORKSHOP ON THESE ISSUES MIGHT BE MORE APPROPATE D WE CAN HAVE A LONGER DETAILED DISCUSSION WITH INPUT FROM EVERYBODY INSTEAD OF RUSHING HERKY JERKY INTO DOING SOMETHING TODAY OR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. SO WITH THAT, MY MOTION EARLIER WAS TO CONTINUE ITEM 8 AS WELL AS INCLUDING THE IDEA THAT I THREW OUT TODAY, I WILL CALL IT AMENDED ITEM 8, AND PUT THAT ON A WORKSHOP IN OUR JUNE WORKSHOP, WHICH IS, WHAT, FOUH WEEK IN JUNE, MARTY, OR THIRD? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE 24th IS? >> JUNE 24. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND WE LOOKED AT THAT WORKSHOP AND IT DOESN'T LOOK TOO, TOO BUSY. SO I JUST WANTED A FULL BOARD HERE TO ADDRESS THAT AND VOTE ON IT AND SEE WHERE IT GOES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MR. DINGFELDER. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. CARLSON. ANY DISCUSSION? YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST TO SET IT WITH TO ALLOW AT 11:30 A.M. IF WE ARE SPACING THINGS A HALF HOUR APART OR IS THERE ANOTHER TIME? IT WOULD NOT SHOW UP ON THE AGENDA CORRECT? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: 11:30. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR. ANY DISCUSSION? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL JUST -- >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL JUST SAY SOMETHING IF I MAY. I HAD SECONDED IT UNDER WHAT I NOW CALL THE CLARENCE DAREO RULE. IF MR. CARLSON SECOND IT, I WILL BE RESPECTFULLY VOTING NO. AGAIN I VOTED AGAINST THE CONTINUANCE OF NUMBER 8 ORIGINALLY AND I WILL DO IT HERE AGAIN. JUST MY THOUGHTS. >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANKS VERY MUCH. I AGAIN STATED MANY TIMES TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM WHAT PLANNING AND WHAT MR. RANDY GOERS HAD TO SAY, AND THEN I THINK I CAN MAKE A ADJUSTMENT BETTER AFTER THAT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE OORY MR. DINGFELDER, SECOND FROM MR. CARLSON. TAKE A ROLL CALL PLEASE. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO. >>LUIS VIERA: NO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA MANISCALCO AND CITRO VOTING NO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. >>LUIS VIERA: SO CONTINUED NUMBER 8. CORRECT? >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, FOR A WORKSHOP. >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. FEELEY IS LAG VERY CONFUSED. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. FEELEY, DID YOU 2021 SAY SOMETHING, MA'AM? OKAY. >>ABBYE FEELEY: SORRY ABOUT THAT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU LOOKED ANGERED THERE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THOUG I HEARD FOUR NAMES SO I WAS A BIT CONFUSED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION PASSED. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA, MANISCALCO AND CITRO VOTING NO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: DID YOU UNDERSTAND THE MOTION, MS. FEELEY? >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: CONSENT ITEMS. ITEMS 9 THROUGH 16, SIR. >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE ITEMS NUMBER 9 THROUGH 16. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO MOVED, MR. MANISCALCO SECOND. ALL INAVOR OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. MR. MANISCALCO, CAN YOU DO PARKS AND RECREATION 17 THROUGH 23? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, POINT OF ORDER? ON ITEM 18, I AM GOING TO ASK THAT WE REINSTATE IT AND STRIKE MY EARLIER MOTION. I SPOKE WITH STAFF DURING LUNCH. THEY CLARIFIED THE ISSUE THAT I NEEDED CLARIFYING. AND SO THERE WAS NO POINT IN CONTINUING THAT FOR TWO WEEKS. SO IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND MR. MANISCALCO, IF YOU CAN INCLUDE ITEM 18 AND WE'LL STRIKE THE MA% 20th FROM THE CALENDAR. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE JUST DO BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT A MOTION TO RESCIND THE PREVIOUS MOTION ON ITEM 18. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO RESCIND BY DINGFELDER, SECOND BY MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. MR. MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU GO THROUGH ITEM 17 THROUGH 23, SIR? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE 17 THROUGH 23. >> SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVED BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY VIERA. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM GOING TO ASK, WHILE WE ARE STILL UNDER E STE OF EMERGENCY PER COUNCIL'S RULES, ESPECIALLY ON THESE CONTRACTS OF SIGNIFICANCE ITEMS, I GUESS A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE CONSENT DOCKET, PLEASE. >>THE CLERK: THEN WOO GO BACK TO PUBLIC SAFETY? >>JOSEPH CITRO: I STILL MOVE ITEMS 9 THROUGH 16. >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY ABOUT THAT COUNCIL. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEMS 17 THROUGH 23. MOVED BY MANISCALCO. SECOND BY VIERA. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU GO TO ITEMS 24 THROUGH 37? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR. I'LL MOVE ITEMS 24 THROUGH 30. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, ROLL CALL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>BILL CARLSON: ROB ROSNER WAS GOING TO TRY TO BE ON STANDBY TO READ A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT 31 AND 32 IF POSSIBLE. I JUST ASKED HIM TO READ THIS OUT SO THAT THE PUBLIC WATCHING, I IN PARTICULAR HAVE A LOT OF AT ANY TIME WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT BEEN DONE IN THE PAST AND IT HA- ASKED ROB AND MICHELLE LOTS OF QUESTIONS AND THEY ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS, AND I JUST WANTED FOR THE RECORD TO LET THEM DIRECTLY ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO ASK US LATER. THANK YOU. >>ROB ROSNER: CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY IN THEIR NEW POSITIONS. AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME TO SPEAK. JUST TO OPEN UP A QTI PROGRAM HAS EXPIRED WITH THE STA AND THEY HAVE NOT REINSTATE ADD NEW PROGRAM BUT THESE TWO ITEMS 31 AND 342 ARE ITEMS THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE LATE 2018. QTI IS A STATE SPONSORED INCENTIVE PROGRAM TO INCENTIVIZE PROGRAMS TO EXPAND TO THE STATE OR INCREASE THEIR NUMBERS OF FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. APPLICATIONS GO THROUGH THE STATE, AND ARE VETTED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THE LOCAL PARTICIPATING JURISDICTIONS. THE CITY, COUNTY AND STATE. THERE IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE STATE AND THE COMPANY AND CRTED AGREED UPON BY THETHAT ARE COMPANY. INCENTIVES ARE ONLY PAID AFTER THE JOBS ARE CREATED AND VERIFIED PER THE AGREEMENT. RECORDS FOR EVERY YEAR TO ENSURE THAT THE JOBS CREATED ARE MAINTAINED DURING THE DURATION OF THE AGREEMENT. ANNUAL INCENTIVES ARE RECEIVED WILL NEVER EXCEED THE TAXES I PAID BY THE COMPANY DURING EACH INCENTIVE YEAR. HOWEVER THE JOBS CREATED MUST PAY A MINIMUM OF 115% OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AVERAGE AT THE TIME THE AGREEMENT WAS EXECUTED. THERE ARE TWO QTI REQUESTS BEFOREOUNC TODAY, OUR REQUESTS FROM THE CITY TO PARTICIPATE IN QTI INCENTIVE PROGRAM, AND MOVE INTO THE CITY FROM THE COUNTY LOCATION. SO THE TOTAL INCENTIVE FROM THE STATE WOULD BE 659 AND 500. THE STATE PAYS 80% OF THAT WHICH REPRESENTS $527,600. THE COUNTY WILL PAY 11.5% WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY $75. THEY PAID A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID OUT. AND THEN THE CITY WILL PAY 8.5 WHICH SHOWS ABOUT 56,212.50, WHICH IS THE REST OF OUR PORTION. DURING THE REMAINING YEARS OF THE AGREEMENT IF THE COMPANY LEFT THE CITY. NORMALLY WE PASS BOTH RESOLUTIONS AT THE TIME, AND BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE GOING TO LAND IN THE CITY OR THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING SELECTION PROCESS. THIS ONE ACTUALLY OUTGREW THEIR SPACE AND ARE MOVING INTO NEW SPACE I.WANTED TO CLARIFY THOSE THINGS FOR ITEMS 31 AND 32. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>BILL CARLSON: THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF HIGHROFILE FAILURES IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORLD IN TAMPA IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZE THAT HAD FAILURES AND IT'S QTI WHICH THE OLD PROGRAM STILL REGULATED BY THE STATE. AND THE STATE IS GOING TO VET IT IN ADDITION TO ALL THE VETTING THE CITY HAS DONE AND ANY OTHER GROUPS. SO THE FACT THAT THE STATE IS INVOLVED, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL GROUPS WATCHING IT, WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT EVERY INVESTMENT WILL DO WELL, AND THE QTI IS AN INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY, NOT IN A COMPANY. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE WITH QUESTIONS? ANYONE ELSE? COULD YOU MOVE ITEMS 31 THROUGH 39? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 31 THROUGH 39 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 38. SOMEBODY ELSE CAN MOVE THAT. >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY CITRO. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, CO-CHAIR, I WILL MOVE ITEM 38. >> SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. MOTION BY MR. CITRO. SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOVARE VIERA YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONE MORE ITEM, RIGHT? TRANSPORTATION? MR. VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: [OFF MICROPHONE] I MOVE 49 THROUGH 52. >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S 40. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M SORRY. MR. CARLSON, BUILDING AND ZONING. >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 40 THROUGH 48. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY VIERA. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VIE: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES GOOD. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>LUIS VIERA: 49 THROUGH 502S I HEREBY MOVE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MANISCALCO. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: USE THE MICROPHONE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 53 AND 54 THAT THEY BOTH BE SET FOR A HEARING ON JULY 10th, BOTH THE -- JULY 15th, SAME TIME AND DATED. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? I OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, MBER 55 AND 57, I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF. AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE COMPANY, THE COMPANY WITH WHOM WITH I AM RETAINED AS A TENANT OF THE PROPERTY WHICH THE SUBSTANCE OF THIS ORDINANCE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES OF THE SLIDE, YOU WILL ACTUALLY SEE MY OFFICE. THAT'S NUMBER 55. AND THEN NUMBER 57, YOU HAVE BECOME AWARE THAT A COMPANY BY WHOM I RETAIN HAS A CLIENT WHICH MAY HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THIS MATTER WITH WHICH MY COMPANY IS NOT INVOLVED, AND THIS QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER, I AM ABSTAINING TO ENSURE A FAIR PROCEEDING FREE FROM POTENTIAL BIAS OR PREJUDICE AND POTENTIAL CONFLICT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ALL TO RECEIVE AND FILE MY FORM FOR NUMBER 55. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY-CARLSON, SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE MY FORM FOR NUMBER 57. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, CONSIDERING YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY OPENED ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS HEARINGS I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL OF THE WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL TO BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD THAT HAVE BEEN UPLOADED AND HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL DOCUMENTS. >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED. VIERA SECONDS. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO, COUNCIL, WHEN WE GET TO THE EX ARTE COMMUNICATIONS -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MORE MICROPHONE I.WEE DON'T HEAR YOU I'M I'M SORRY. I AM GOING TO ASK AN ISSUE WITH REGARD TO EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BUT I WILL DO THAT WHEN WE GET THERE. THESE ARE NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL. 55 AND 56. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT. MOVE TO OPEN THE HEARINGS? ALL RIGHT. ITEM 55. >>RON VILA: HISTORIC PRESERVATION. I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN TO DO A FULL PRESENTATION FOR YOU. THIS IS FOR 1302 EAST 7TH AVENUE. THIS IS FOR A HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION. IS IT LOADED YET? >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, SIR. >>THE CLERK: RON, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT IT WHEN I SEND IT TO YOU SO I AM GOING TO DO IT AGAIN. >>RON VILA: OKAY. >> I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT YOU LOOK LIKE YOU ARE IN THE VISITATION CHAMBERS OF THE JAIL. [ LAUGHTER ] >> I'LL SECOND THAT. [ LAUGHTER ] THERE WE GO. >>RON VILA: I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ALL YOUR TIME. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG MORNING. THIS IS A BACKGROUND AND BENEFITS OF THE AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION. IT HELPS TO STIMULATE THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND MULTIPLE PROPERTIES THAT MONTANES SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES WITH THESE TAX INCENTIVES THAT IT HAS, ELIGIBLE PROPERTIES ARE LOCAL LANDMARKS, HISTORIC PROPERTIES, AND BUILDINGS WITHIN THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND WITHIN THE DISTRICTS, EVEN THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION OR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION WILL REVIEW THESE PROJECTS. I WANT TO SHARE A PICTURE LOOKING DOWN 7th AVENUE TO THE EAST FROM 13th STREET. THE BUILDING IN QUESTION IS OVER HERE. YOU SEE HOW IT HAS RECESSED OPENINGS, SIDEWALK, AND THE CANOPY MORE HORIZONTAL FROM THE FACADE, AND THEN THE ARTICULATION UP TOP. THIS IS SHOWING A PHOTO OF THE FRONT FACADE FROM THE 30s. YOU SEE IT HAS PEDESTRIAN FRONTING ON THE BOTTOM AND THE PARAPET ON TOP. THIS IS THE SANBORN MAP OF 1929, IN THE AREA IN QUESTION. THIS PORTION OF THE BUILDING, YOU SEE THE CONCENTRATION OF THE BRICK BUILDINGSLONG 7th AVENUE, THE BRICK IS INDICATED WITH THE RED OR THE PINK HE WILL STRAYINGS. THIS IS THE BUILDING PRIOR TO RENOVATION. THE BUILDING HAS STUCCO APPLIED TO THE BRICKS, AND AS THE CANOPY CAME OUT MORE OF AN ANGLE THAT IS NOT HISTORICALLY CORRECT. AND THEN THERE WERE SOME WINDOWS THAT WERE COVERED UP. AND THEN LAO IT LOOKS TODAY. THE WINDOWS WERE REORIENTED TO LET IN THE NATURAL LIGHT AND THEN YOU SEE THE STOREFRONT AND THE CANOPY TO BE MORE PERIOD APPROPRIATE. THIS IS LOOKING AT THE FRONT PRIOR TO REHABILITATION. YOU SEE THE STUCCO AND THE STOREFRONTS HAVE BEEN ALTERED, WITH A BARREL TILE ON TOP, AND THEN CURRENTLY HOW IT LOOKS TAKE LOOKING AT THE FULL FACADE FROM THE EASTERN PORTION ALL THE WAY BACK DOWN TO 13th STREET. AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, THEY WANTED TO REENGAGE THE ALLEY, AND HAVE THE ALLEY MORE OF A PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE AS WELL. SO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING WAS ALL ENCLOSED AND YOU SEE THE CONDITION OF THELLEY. AFTER REHABILITATION, THE BRICKS WERE LAID IN THE ALLEY AND THEN THE STOREFRONTS ALONG HERE THAT HAVE BUSINESSES. MOVING TO THE INTERIOR, EVERYTHING WAS GUTTED. THE DROP CEILINGS WERE IN PLACE. AND THEN THIS FACADE IS THE ONE WHERE THE WINDOWS WERE CLOSED OFF WITH THE STUCCO. AND THEN HERE YOU SEE THAT THE DROP CEILINGS WERE REMOVED. YOU SEE THE AMALIUM WAS CREATED, TE WORK EXPERIENCE. PRIOR TO REHABILITATION. AND THEN AFTER REHABILITATION WHEN THE DROP CEILINGS WERE REMOVED, THE PERIOD SKYLIGHTS TO LET IN THAT NATURAL LIGHT, TO CREATE THAT BENEFICIAL WORK EXPERIENCE. THIS IS ACCESSIBILITY, AND THEN HOW IT LOOKS TODAY. THEN THROUGH UPSTAIRS THE ADAPTIVE REUSE SOME RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS. THIS IS PRIOR TO REHABILITATION. AND THEN AFTER REHABILITATION, THE FLOORS WER REPAIRED AND BROUGHT BACK TO THEIR LUSTER. THE EXTERIOR WALLS. AND THEN JUST A COUPLE MORE SHOTS OF HOW IT LOOKS TODAY. SO THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION REVIEWED THIS ON JANUARY 26, 2021, AND FELT THAT IT MET THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS. I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS FIRST AD VALOREM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GREAT OLD PHOTO. HOME OF THE BANANAS. A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. MOTION TO CLOSE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO CLOSE BY MR. MANISCALCO. SECOND BY MR. CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, WE HAVE TO READ THE ORDINANCE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. MR. MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION, RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY YBOR MARTI, LLC, 02 EAST 7TH AVENUE TAMPA, FLORIDA IN THE YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT, BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. CITRO. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES >>CHARLIE M. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 6. >>RON VILA: THE NEXT AD VALOREM I AM GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU, IS THIS ON YOUR SCREEN, 1 -- 3108 EAST JEFFERSON STREET? >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>RON VILA: THIS IS ALSO HISTORIC PRESERVATION TAX EXEMPTION. BURDEN FOR THE MAINTENANCE, THE ELIGIBLE PROPERTIES ARE DESIGNATED LOCAL LANDMARKS, HISTORIC PROPERTIES AND PROPERTIES WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND THIS WAS REVIEWED BY THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMISSION. THIS BUILDING WAS REFERRED TO AS THE GRAHAM BOTTLING BUILDING. YOU SEE THE NATURE OF IT IS RED. IT IS THE COLORF THE SANBORN MAP WHICH INDICATES THAT IT WAS BRICK CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN YOU SEE THE DENSITY IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY IN THE YELLOW WHICH IS PRECONSTRUCTION WITH A HOUSING STOCK. THIS IS BEFORE RENOVATION AND AFTER RENOVATION. THE BUILDING WAG VACANT FOR MANY YEARS. AS THIS PROGRAM WAS USED TO EXERCISE THE BENEFIT A THAT IT HAS AND THE VIABILITY IT HAS IN THE DISTRICT. PART OF THIS BUILDING WAS HIT BY LICENSE. YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE BRICKS HERE. THIS WAS ALL IN THE STREET AT ONE TIME. IT WAS BEING RECONSTRUCTED. AND HOW IT LOOKS TODAY ON THE BOTTOM. PORTION OF THE BUILDING WAS DISMANTLED WHICH WAS HERE. AND THE DEMOLITION OF PART OF THE BUILDINGS THEY RE-CREATED A PARKING AREA. SO THIS BUILDING MEETS ALL PARKING REQUIREMENTS. AS PART OF THE DEMOLITION FOR THAT PORTION, THE BRICK WAS SENSE DIFFERENTLY REMOVED, AND THEN REINSTATED INTO A BUILDING WHERE THERE WAS NEED FOR THE BRICK TO BE REINSTATED. MOVING TO THE INTERIOR, YOU SEE THE HEAVY STRUCTURAL MEMBERS, PART OF THE FEATURES IN THE BUILDING AND IMPLEMENTED INTO THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION AND BECAME A VISIBLE COMPONENT OF THE ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THE LIVING SPACES THAT ARE THERE TODAY. PART OF THE SKELETON WAS THE SCOPE OF THE OWNERS, HOW THEY WANTED TO LEAVE IT. SO THE BEFORE YOU SEE HOW SOME WAS PEELING AWAY, AND WORKED ON THE BUILDING, PEELED AWAY WHAT WAS LOOSE, AND LEFT BEHIND WHAT WAS ENGAGED INTO THE BUILDING THAT SHOWS SOME OF THE FRAMEWORK OF THE BUILDING. INTERIOR, THEY HAD SOME WOOD SIDING ON THE UPPER LEVEL. THE WOOD WAS POLISHED AND RETAINED. AND THEN LASTLY, THIS IS 3108 NORTH JEFFERSON, ON FEBRUARY 3rd, 2021, HISTORIC REVIEW COMMID THE CITY COUNCIL -- [~DISTORTION~] I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT SAYS GRAHAM BOTTLING WORK AND THEN IT SAYS BOOTLEGGER. IS THERE ANY INTERESTING STORY OF BOOTLEGGERS? >> THE BOOTLGERSS T NAME OF THE ESTABLISHMENT TODAY. THE OWNERS WANTED TO ATTACH THAT TO IT SO IT HAS A LITTLE MYSTIQUE TO THE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO WE DON'T HAVE A HISTORICAL REFERENCE TO THAT, JUST A NICE NICKNAME? >>RON VILA: CORRECT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND I HOPE YOU GET OUT SAVE, RON. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WAS NO BOOTLEGGING IN TAMPA. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. CARLSON. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MR. CARLSON, WOULD YOU READ 58, PLEASE? >> 56. I MOVE E 2021-8-CHAPTER 27. ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION, RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY SIGHT BF PLATS LLC LOCATED AT 3108 NORTH JEFFERSON STREET, TAMPALORIDA IN THE TAMPA HATES HISTORIC DISTRICT BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS PROVIDNG FOR NOTICE TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. CARLSON. SECOND BRO BY MR. MANISCALCO. ROLL CALL PLEASE. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>RON VILA: THANK YOU, COUNCIL. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 57. >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. I NEED TO BE SWORN IN. [OATH ADMINISTERED] >> ITEM NUMBER 57 IS FILE REZ 20-92 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5430 AND 5440 WEST TYSON AVENUE. THE REQUEST WAS TO REZONE FROM IH INDUSTRIAL HEAVY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR SIDEIAL MULTIFAMILY, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, RESTAURANT, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS, STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR. >> I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK SLIDES. (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK). >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE WE BEGIN, LET ME JUST STATE, ASK VERY QUICKLY WITH REGARD TO -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: INTO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE I'M I'M I'M SORRY, I WILL TRY TO LEARN HOW TO USE THIS BETTER. WITH REGARD TO ANY EX PARTE VERBAL COMMUNICATION IFS ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS EBBS HAD ANY COMMUNICATIONS RELATIVE TO THIS CASE PLEASE DISCLOSE THE SUM AND SUBSTANCE OF THAT COMMUNITY AND WITH WHOM THAT COMMUNICATION OCCUED. SEE NO RESPONSE. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU MAY PROCEED, MS. BATSEL. >>ELISE BATSEL: IF YOU COULD SHOW THE SCREEN AFTER I TURN THE COMPUTER ON, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. GOT IT? MR. CREW OR SULING, IF YOU COULD ENABLE THE SCREEN FOR SUZANNE WALKER SO WE CAN GET STARTED. >>THE CLERK: YES. I GAVE HER PRESENTER RATES. ELIS BATSEL: GREAT. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THE SCREEN. YOU ARE GIVING TO THE ME BUT NOT TO SUZANNE. >>THE CLERK: YOU SHOULD SEE A BOX POP UP. YOU HAVE TO ACCESS IT. >>ELISE BATSEL: IT'S POPPING UP FOR ME BUT NOT FOR MS. WALKER. I GOT THE BOX. >>THE CLERK: SUZANNE WALKER IS THE PRESENTER WHO I AM GIVING IT TO. >>ELISE BATSEL: DO YOU WANT TO TRY THAT AGAIN? >> THIS IS VALERIE, THE COURT REPORTER. IF YOU GUYS CAN HEAR ME, ON MY SCREEN IT SHOWS THAT I AM THE PRESENTER. >>THE CLERK: GIVE ME A MOMENT. IT LOOKS LIKE SUZANNE IS ON THERE TWICE SO LET ME START IT OVER. >>ELISE BATSEL: THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THIS. HOPEFULLY QUEIL ALL MEET TOGETHER IN PERSON SOON AND WE WON'T HAVE TO DO THIS ANYMORE. YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT IS NOT OUR SUZANNE WALKER. THERE MUST BE A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY NAMED SUZANNE WALKER ALSO. THERE WE GO. OKAY. WE ARE SET. ARE YOU READY FOR US, MR. CHAIRMAN? >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M READY. YOU MAY PROCEED. >>ELISE BATSEL: ELISE BATSEL, WHO 1 EAST JACKSON STREET. MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM NOT IN THE HABIT OF INTRODUCING ANY NEW EVIDENCE INTO THE RECORD AT SECOND READING BUT I FEEL COMPELLED TO ADDRESS TWO SIGNIFICANT LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO MR. DINGFELDER'S LINE OF QUESTIONING ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT OCCURRED DURING THE APRIL 8 HEARING AND TO DOCUMENT THEM FOR THE RECORD, SHOULD COUNCIL DECIDE TODAY NOT TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT. SPECIFICALLY I WANT TO ADDRESS THIS LINE OF QUESTIONING TO MS. ILA REGARDING THE 1998 LEASE OF CHEMICAL -- THE 2005 LEAKS OF CHEMICAL FORMULATORS AND THE GRANTVILLE RAIL CAR CRASH. IT IS VERY LEGALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT PRIOR TO HIS QUESTIONING OF MS. ILA THE RECORD WAS COMPLETELY DEVOID OF ANY EVIDENCE OF THESE THREE MATTERS. THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS EVIDENCE BY MR. DINGFELDER PRESENTS TWO DISTINCT LEGAL PROBLEMS THAT I AM COMPELLED TO PUT IORMAON O THE RECORD TO PRESERVE THE RIGHT TO APPEAL. THE FIRST SCENARIO INVOLVED COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S QUESTIONS STATING THAT HE GOOGLED CHLORINE SAFETY AND CHEMICAL FORMULATORS BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND HEARING. FLORIDA LAW IS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT MEMBERS OF A LOCAL COUNCIL OR COMMISSION CANNOT ACT ON THEIR OWN INFORMATION. AS EARLY AS 1962, THE COURT IN REAL ESTATE COMMISSION SPOKE DIRECTLY TO THIS POINT AND SAY IN PART, COUNCIL WHO ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON OR AFTER A HEARING IN THE EXERCISE OF A QUASI-JUDICIAL FUNCTION CANNOT ACT ON THEIR OWN INFORMATION. IT IS IMPROPER FOR SUCH AN OFFICER TO BASE HIS DECISION OR FINDING UPON FACTS GATHERED FROM ITS OWN RECORD WITHOUT INTRODUCING THE RECORDS INTO EVIDENCE. THIS CONFLICT WAS RECENTLY REAFFIRMED BY THE FLORIDA COURTS IN 2020. MY LEGAL CONCERN IS THIS. THERE IS NOON WAY AT THIS JUNCTURE FOR ME OR ANY OF US INVOLVED TODAY TO KNOW WHAT INFORMATION MR. DINGFELDER REVIEWED AND GOOGLE SRCHED. NOTHING WAS ENTERED INTO THE RECORD. WE CAN NEVER KNOW ALL THE WEB PAGES OR SITES THAT MR. DINGFELDER REVIEWED IN HIS INDEPENDENT RESEARCH. WE CAN NEVER KNOW WHAT INFORMATION HE LEARNED IN HIS RESEARCH AND HOW THAT MIGHT INFORM HIS THINKING ON THIS ISSUE. AND EVEN HIS THINKING UNCONSCIOUSLY. UNFORTUNATELY AT THIS POINT IN TIME IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO CURE THIS PREJUDICE TO THE APPLICANT. THERE IS A SECOND SCENARIO WHICH PRESENTS ANOTHER LEGAL PROBLEM. AND I AM COMPELLED TO PUT DIM FACTS INTO THE RECORD. AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THE ISSUE OF PREJUDICIAL EX PARTE COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN WELL ESTABLISHED BY FLORIDA COURTS SINCE 1991. THE THIRD DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS HELD IN THE CASE OF JENNINGS VERSUS DADE COUNTY THAT EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS ARE INHERENTLY IMPROPER AND ARE A QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDING. QUASI-JUDICIAL OFFICERS SHOULD AVOID ALL SUCH CONTACT WHERE THEY ARE IDENTIFIABLE. AND FURTHER, EACH EX PARTE COMMUNICATION ARE PRESUMED PREJUDICE DINGFELDER AND ITS COUNCIL'S BURDEN TO PROVE SUCH COMMUNICATIONS WITH ARE NOT PREJUDICE BY SUBSTANTIAL COMPETENT EVIDENCE. I AM MERELY SUBMITTING FACTS, AND THE FIRST FACT IS THAT AN E-MAIL WAS SENT TO COUNCIL BY A CITIZEN AT 5:54 P.M. ON THE EVENING OF APRIL 8 HEARING. WE OBTAINED THIS INFORMATION THROUGH A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST. THIS INFORMATION WAS NOT AND STILL TODAY IS NOT IN THE PUBLIC RECORD UNTIL WE SHOWED IT ON THE SCREEN TODAY. HER E-MAIL CONTAINS FOUR LINKS. THE FIRST CONTAINED A LINK ABOUT THIS REZONING PETITION, AND SECOND THE OTHER THREE LINKS WERE RATED TO ARTICLES ABOUT CHEMICAL FORMULATORS AND CHLORINE GAS LEAKS. THOSE THREE LINKS COVERED THE TOPICS AND PROVIDED SPECIFIC STATISTICS RELATED TO -- THEY WERE AS FOLLOWS. THE 1998 LINK AND CHEMICAL FORMULATORS, THE DAYTONA 500 LEAK AT CHEMICAL OL' FORMULATORS AND THE GRANTVILLE RAIL CAR CRASH. I WILL REMIND THAT YOU DURING THE LAST HEARING THERE WERE THREE THINGS THAT MR. DINGFELDER QUESTIONED IRA ABOUT IN DETAIL WHICH WERE NOT IN THE RECORD. THOSE WERE AS FOLLOWS: NUMBER ONE, THE 1998 LEAK FOR CHEMICAL CAL FORMULATORS. NUMBER TWO, THE 2005 LEAK OF CHEMICAL FORMULATORS, AND FINALLY THE GRANTVILLE RAIL CAR CRASH. IT IS ASSUMED THAT COUNCIL WILL NOT OPEN OR READ E-MAILS RELATED TO QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS THAT ARE COMING BEFORE COUNCIL FOR A VOTE, OR AT A MINIMUM COUNCIL WILL DISCLOSE SUCH COMMUNITY SO THAT THE COMMUNICATIONS ARE PROPERLY ENTERED INTO THE RECORD AND THE APPLICANT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE AND RESPOND BEFORE ANY VOTE IS TAKEN. AT THE BEGINNING OF T APRIL 8 HEARING AND AGAIN TODAY AT THIS HEARING, MR. SHELBY ASKED IF ANYONE HAD ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS TO DISCLOSE AND NO ONE DISCLOSED THEY HAD ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION. SO WHETHER THIS INFORMATION USED TO CREATE THE LINE OF QUESTIONING WAS THE RESULT OF COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S INDEPENDENT RESEARCH OR WHETHER IT WAS PROMPTED THROUGH UNDISCLOSED EX PARTE COMMUNICATION, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER BECAUSE THE END RESULT IS THE SAME. THE USE OF THIS INFORMATION WAS PREJUDICE TO THE APPLICANT AND CREATES SIGNIFICANT LEGAL PROBLEMS FOR THIS APPLICANT IF THE PROJECT IS NOT APPROVED TODAY. WE HOPE THAT THESE ADDITIONAL FACTS THAT WE PUT INTO THE RECORD NEVER BECOME A PROBLEM FOR THE CITY AND THAT THE VOTE GOES JUST LIKE IT DID THE LAST TIME. AS YOU KNOW, EVERY SINGLE ISSUE THAT WE PRESENTED, THAT COUNCIL PRESENTED, OR THAT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY PRESENTED, WE ADDRESSED SPECIFICALLY WITH EXPERT TESTIMONY AND WITH COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. YOU DO GREAT WORK ON THIS COUNCIL, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU, AND I KNOW THAT EACH AND EVERY ONEFOU ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS AND ONLY WANT WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S WHY IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO PROTECT THE PROCESS AND THE INTEGRITY. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. MR. MANASSE? >>RYAN MANASSE: STAFF IS READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BUT I GUESS IT'S BACK TO YOU, SIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE FOUR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU. WE CAN'T SEE YOU, THOUGH. WORK SO I HAVE A BACKUPE DIDN'T- COMPUTER. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MRS. WELLS? >>CATE WELLS: I HATE HATE TO INTERRUPT BUB COMMENT BUT CATE WELLS, CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. I DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT GIVEN THE ISSUES RAISED BY MRS. BATSEL IF MR. SHELBY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR MR. DINGFELDER TO RECUSE HIMSELF. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY? >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN. I WOULD LIKE BEFORE WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, I AM GOING TO INQUIRE OF THE CLERK AND THEN I WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT. IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? IS THERE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SAY NOW THAT WE SHOULD DISCUSS RATHER THAN TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? I WAS ABOUT TO CONVERSE WITH THE CLERK. >> HOWEVER YOU WANT TO HANDLE IT, MR. SHELBY. I WAS IS JUST RAISING IT FOR THE RECORD. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I APPRECIATE THAT. WE'LL GET BACK TO THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL BE RIGHT BACK, MR. CHAIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE STILL HAVE FOUR. >>THE CLERK: I HAVE THREE OUT OF THE FOUR. ONE IS NOT LOGGED ON AT THIS TIME. SO EVERYONE ELSE PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> YES. >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL GO WITH JEAN STROHMEYER FIRST. >> SURE. OKAY. HI NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER, PRESIDENT OF INTERBAY GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION HERE TO OPPOSE ITEM 57 DUE TO THE CHEMICAL PLANT BEING 500 FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED APARTMENTS. DEVELOPMENT OF CHANNELSIDE NOT YET CONVERTED TO RESIDENTIAL UNTIL THE NIGH RATE AND CHEMICAL COMPANY LEFT. OTHER HAZARDOUS INDUSTRIES IN THE PORT TAMPA AREA ARE 12 TO 1400 FEET AWAY. CHEMICAL FORMULATE ORGANIZES IS CLOSE TO 500 FEET FROM THE PROPOSED SITE. HARBOR ISLAND CITY FLORIDAERS TESTIFIED THAT IT DID NOT GET DEVELOPED AS RESIDENTIAL UNTIL AFTER THEY CLEANED UP WHERE WHAT WAS USED BY THE COUNTY AS A MOSQUITO CONTROL AREA. DANGER OF TRAINS. THERE'S ONLY ONE TRAIN A DAY TO CFI. IF THAT TRAIN JUST TRAVELED 20 MILES AN HOUR THAT MEANS THAT RESIDENCES CLOSE TOTAL TRACKS OVER 880 FEET OF THAT TRAIN FOR ONE MINUTE A DAY. IF IT GOES 10 MILES AN HOUR IT'S TWO MINUTES A DAY IN 2015 THERE WAS A TERRORIST ATTACK ON A CHEMICAL PLANT IN FRANCE. THE TERRORISTS ROLLED A VAN INTO A CHEMICAL WAREHOUSE AND IT EXPLODED. SECURITY EXPERTS SAY THAT SITUATION EXPOSED THE VULNERABILITIES OF CHEMICAL THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY CONSIDERS CHEMICAL FORMULATORS WITH ITS CLOAR LEAN GAS INDUSTRY TO BE TARGET OF TERRORIST ATTACKS. CFI INFORMED TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IN 2018 OF THIS VULNERABILITY. THEY ARE REQUIRED TO FILE INFORMATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURYND THE COAST GUARD TO CONCERN ABOUT -- [NO ENCODER] [NO ENCODER] NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO INCREASE POPULATION DENSITY. AS SUCH A RAPID RACE ESPECIALLY IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD. TO DO THIS IS A BLATANT DISREGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE OVER PROFIT. PLEASE DENY THIS DANGEROUS REZONING REQUEST AND VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE AND PUT LIFE BEFORE PROFIT IN OUR GREAT CITY. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND HAVE A GREAT DAY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, WE CAN. >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT. AMERICANS CHANCES OF DYING IN THE 911 TERRORIST ATTACKS WERE .000001. MY BROTHER-IN-LAW WENT TO WORK THAT DAY IN AN OFFICE. HE DID NOT REPORT TO HIS FAIR HOUSE. HE WAS A CAPTAIN IN THE FDNY BUT WAS ALSO A CHEMICAL ENGINEER. ON SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 HE WAS DEVELOPING A TRAINING CLASS FOR HAZ-MAT SO HEAS IN A NICE SAFE DESK IN A NICE SAFE OFFICE. THEN THE TOWERS WERE HIT. SIX WEEKS LATER, AFTER ALL HOPE WAS GONE, A MEMORIAL SERVICE WAS HELD. IT WAS A MEMORIAL INSTEAD OF A FUNERAL BECAUSE NOTHING WAS FOUND. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THE FIRST OF HIS FOUR CHILDREN GOT MARRIED. AT HIS WEDDING THE DAUGHTER DANCED THE TRADITIONAL FATHER DAUGHTER DANCE WITH HER UNC. IN 2009, THE CHANCES OF A TEENAGER DYING IN A HOUSE FIRE WERE ABOUT .00002. MY NEPHEW WAS SAFE ON THE SIDEWALK. MY NEPHEW WAS SAFE ON THE SQUAWK BUT HIS BEST FRIEND WAS STILL IN THE HOUSE. EVERY DAY, BETWEEN DREAMS AND REALITY, EVERY DAY THE FIRST SECOND OF AWARENESS, EVERY DAY HIS PARENTS FIRST THOUGHT IS, MY SON IS DEAD. AND I WILL BE THAT WILL BE THEIR FIRST WAKING THOUGHT EVERY DAY FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. DO I THINK THERE WILL BE A LEAK OF CHEMICAL -- CHEMICAL FORMULATORS? NO I DO NOT. I DO THINK THERE WILL BE A TERRORIST ATTACK OWN CHEMICAL FORMULATORS? NO I DO NOT. I DO THINK IT'S WORTH THE RISK? NO I DO NOT. THERE IS A REASON PEOPLE BUY LOTTERY TICKETS AND THAT ARE LONG SHOTS AT THE TRACK, BECAUSE NO MATTER IF IT'S 100 TO ONE OR A MILLION TO ONE, THE ONE ALWAYS COMES IN. SOONER OR LATER, THE ONE ALWAYS COMES IN. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN .00001 AND ZERO CANNOT BE CALCULATED WITH MATH, BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE IS NOT A NUMBER. THE DIFFERENCE IS A FAR LESS QUOTIENT OF GRIEF AND PAIN. EN THE ONE COMES, AND IT WILL, WHEN THAT ONE COMES IN, FLORIDA, TAMPA, DON'T TELL THE PUBLIC HOW SHOCKED YOU ARE AND DON'T KNOW THE RISK. TELL THE PUBLIC YOU DECIDED IT WAS WORTH THE RISK. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. SHAWN BROWN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY, AND I WAS SPEAKING ON THIS ISSUE, IT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE LOOK AT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE, UNFORTUNATELY THAT EVIDENCE WOULD BE LIVES LOST. INCIDENTS THAT OCCUR IN THE PAST AND PEOPLE WOULD HAVE DIED AND WHO WOULD HAVE SUFFERED AND WHO HAVE PERMANENT DAMAGE. THAT'S THE KIND OF EVIDENCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PRESENT IN ORDER TO I GUESS PROBABLY CONVINCE ALL OF YOU NOT TO APPROVE THIS. I DON'T THINK A OF YOU WANT TO EVER BE A PART OF HISTORY WHERE THAT KIND OF EVIDENCE IS PART OF YOUR RECORD, AND AS TRUTHFULLY WHERE IT'S AT. ON RATTLESNAKE POINT THERE IS KENNEL CAL FORMULATORS. THERE'S OTHER INDUSTRIALS. THERE IS AN ISSUE. AS THEY SAID IT'S ONLY 500, 600 FEET AWAY FROM THE PLANT. WHETHER YOU WANT TO TAKE THE RISK OR NOT IN ALLOWING THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR, WITH THAT BEING ON THAT PENINSULA, RATTLESNAKE POINT IS A NINSA AND JUTS OUT IN SOUTH TAMPA, AS BEING SOUTH TAMPA. IT'S UP TO YOU WHETHER YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT RISK AND MAYBE BE A PART OF I WOULD SAY A NEGATIVE PART OF HISTORY IF SOMETHING WERE TO OCCUR. GRANTED IT'S A BIG IF. AND AS CARROLL ANN SAID, DO WE THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? NO. BUT THERE ARE THE RISKS. WE NEVER THOUGHT 9/11 WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. WE NEVER THOUGHT THINGS WERE GOING TO OCCUR. A FEW YEARS AGO, WATCHING IT THE OR WHATEVER HIS TITLE IS VLADIMIR PUT INPUTS OUT HIS VIDEO SHOWING AREAS HE WOULD ATTACK IN THE COUNTRY, SOUTH TAMPA IS ONE OF THEM BECAUSE OF THE BASE. BUT NEVERTHELESS, COUNTRIES LIKE THAT ARE LOOKING AT AREAS TO ATTACK. AND HE PUTS OUT THAT VIDEO, YOU GUYS CAN FIND THAT ONLINE. IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS. THIS SEW TOUGH DECISION, AT LEAST PRESENTED A LOT OF EVIDENCE FOR THE PROPOSAL AND QUITE FRANKLY IF THAT PROJECT WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT WOULD BE A MUCH DIFFERENT DISCUSSION, BECAUSE THEY PUT IN MIXED USE THG COUNCIL I GUESS IN A WAY ASKED FOR EARLY ON, AND CAME BACK WITH A MORE MIXED USE PROJECT, BUT THE FACT IT'S A LOCATION HAS A LOT OF RISKS TO IT. AND AGAIN TO PRESENT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE WOULD BE TO BASICALLY SAY SOMETHING IS ALREADY HAPPENED BEFORE LOST LIVES, BEFORE INJURED, AND THAT'S THAT. THAT'S THE KIND OF EVIDENCE THAT REALLY YOU ALL ARE LOOKING FOR, AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. SO AT ANY RATE, HOPEFULLY YOU WILL TAKE THIS TO HEART, VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE AND DECIDE FOR THE BEST OF THE PPLE. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. I SEE WE HAVE POYNOR? >>THE CLERK: YES. STEPHANIE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. [OATH ADMINISTERED] THANK YOU. PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HEAR YOU. >> SORRY. I JUST NEED TO SAY THAT BOTTOM LINE IS I HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WITH THE LEADERSHIP AT THE RESERVE UNIT NEXT DOOR TO THE CHEMICAL FORMULATORS. YES, I SENT THE E-MAIL. GUESS WHAT, I HAD SURGERY THAT DAY. SO IT MAY HAVE CAME AFTER THE HEARING STARTED, BUT I DIDN'T TIME ANYBODY'S, AND THOSE ARTICLES ARE WELL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IT TOOK ME ABOUT THREE SECOND OF GOOGLING THEM. I DID CALL THE CHIEF OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. HE CONFIRMED THAT WAS APPROXIMATELY 300 YARDS FROM WHERE THE SPILL TOOK PLACE, SO THESE APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE WELL WITHIN THE DANGER RANGE. AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE FOLKS THERE'S A -- IN ORDER TOID THAT DESIGNATED WHICH WAY THE WIND IS BLOWING SO THEY KNOW WHETHER IT'S SAFE TO PUT THEIR RESERVE CENTER OR NOT, IF NOT THEY HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN TO ACTUALLY VACATE THE LOT NEXT DOOR TO CF, VIA WATER VEHICLES, FROM THE AMMONIA BASE JUST DOWN THE ROAD. SO THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAS A DETECTION SYSTEM THAT IS SITTING ON THE BOUNDARIES. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY FROM THE DEVELOPER TALK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF SAFETY AND SECURITY ISSUES THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE FOR THIS. I SENT AN E-MAIL DURING A MEETING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT BECAME ILLEGAL BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE COULD SEND E-MAILS WHENEVER WE WANTED. BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. WE GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT FOR REBUTTAL. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS SOME ISSUES THA WERE RAISED BY MS. BATSEL AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT BEFORE HER REBUTTAL. MS. BATSEL, HI, MARTIN SHELBY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>ELISE BATSEL: YES, SIR. >> LET ME, AS A MATTER OF FACT, AS A WAY TO DO THIS, OKAY, YOU CAN SEE ME THERE, TOO, AND YOU CAN SEE ME HERE. >>ELISE BATSEL: YES, SIR. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU. MAY I MAKE A COUPLE OF INQUIRIES RELATIVE TO YOUR PRESENTATION FOR THE RECORD? >>ELISE BATSEL: OF COURSE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU. THE FIRST ONE BEING WITH REGARD TO THE LETTER THAT YOU DISPLAYED TO COUNCIL. HAS THAT BEEN, OTHER THAN THE SCREEN SHOT OF IT, HAS THAT BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CITY AS OF YET? >>ELISE BATSEL: NO, IT HAS NOT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND WAS IT YOUR REPRESENTATION JUST SO I AM CLEAR, WAS IT YOUR REPRESENTATION THAT THAT EX PARTE COMMUNICATION, THAT WRITTEN EX PARTE COMMUNICATION -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SHELBY, LET ME INTERRUPT YOU FOR SECOND AS A POINT OF ORDER. I WILL TAKE EVERYBODY OUT OF THIS AGONY. THIS THING PASSED BEFORE AND OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL IS GOING TO IGNORE THIS DANGEROUS CONDITION, THE PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE, IT'S GOING TO PASS AGAIN. SO REGARDLESS I AM GOING TO GO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD LIKE ME TO DO. SO I WILL DO THAT. I WILL RECUSE MYSELF AND I WILL WALK OUT OF THE ROOM AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU THEN FILE WITHIN 15 DAYS AND I WILL HAVE THAT FOR YOU FOR THE RECORD DOWN THE ROAD. THANK YOU, SIR. >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, I TAKE OFFENSE THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAYING THAT WE ARE IGNORING ANY DANGERERS THAT MIGHT COME FROM THE BUILDING OF THIS. I THINK NOT ONLY MYSELF BUT I WILL NOT SPEAK FOR OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, ALWAYS TAKE IN ALL CONSIDERATIONS OF ANYTHING THAT COMES BEFORE US. I TAKE OFFENSE THAT IT WAS SAID THAT I IGNORED EVERYTHING. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE, I DISAGREE WH DID COUNCIL'S COMMENTS BUT I WILL SAY THIS, HE'S PROBABLY VERY EMOTIONAL, AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT ONE THINKS ABOUT IT, HE'S UNDER A LEVEL OF EMOTION NOW, SO I MAY DISAGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT BUT I DON'T TAKE OFFENSE, WE ALWAYS GET EMOTIONAL WHEN WE SAY THINGS. I AM NOT FINE WITH IT BUT I UNDERSTAND IT. JUST MY OPINION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. VIERA, FOR THAT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN CONTINUE JUST VERY BRIEFLY. WITH REGARD TO THAT E-MAIL, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, HAS THAT BEEN SINCE UPLOADED AND MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PLIC THROUGH SIRE AND THROUGH THE TAMPA.GOV/AGENDA WEBSITE, MRS. BATSEL, ARE YOU AWARE? >>ELISE BATSEL: IT HAS NOT BEEN UPLOADED AND NONE OF THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN PUT INTO PUBLIC RECORD. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE DEADLINE BEING THE PAST 24, 48 HOURS? >>ELISE BATSEL: YES. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU. PARDON? >>ELISE BATSEL: I BELIEVE WE CHECKED THIS MORNING AT 9:00. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU. AGAIN JUST A REMINDER FOR YOU AND THE OTHER PARTICIPANTS IF THERE'S ANY SCREEN SHARING, PLEASE PURSUANT TO THE RULES, ENTER THAT INT THE RECORD PHYSICALLY ELECTRONICALLY THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT'S BEEN SET FORTH IN THE INSTRUCTIONS. OKAY. THAT BEING THE CASE, IF I CAN, THEN JUST INQUIRE OF THE BOARD. JUST SO THAT THE RECORD IS CLEAR. COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER HAS RECUSED HIMSELF. AND NOW THAT BEING THE CASE, AND NOW YOU BEING AWARE OF THIS PRESENTATION, AND THE ISSUES BEFORE YOU, ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD WHO CANNOT BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND BASE YOUR EVIDENCE UPON THE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN ENTERED INTO THIS RECORD? IF YOU HAVE, PLEASE INDICATE THAT YOU CANNOT BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL. I SEE NO ONE. MS. BATSEL, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL THINGS YOU WISH TO HAVE FOR THE RECORD? >>ELISE BATSEL: WE DO HAVE -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT FOR REBUTTAL BASED ON THE CITIZEN TESTIMONY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT OUTSIDE OF THE RECORD WITH REGARD TO YOUR PROCEDURAL ISSUES. >>ELISE BATSEL: YOU KNOW, MY DUTY WAS TO PROTECT THE RECORD FOR MY CLIENT, AND MY DUTY WAS TO PRESENT FACTUAL INFORMATION ON THE RECORD AND THAT'S WHAT WE TRIED TO DO AS CAREFULLY AND DIPLOMATICALLY AS WE COULD. >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDERSTOOD AND THANK YOU. I TURN THE MEETING BACK TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ELISE BATSEL: I HAVE ONE QUESTION OF OUR EXPERT, MARTHA EILER. I DON'T THINK SHE'S BEEN SWORN. (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK). >>ELISE BATSEL: YOU ARE MUTED. >> YES, I SWEAR. >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU DATAS. >>ELISE BATSEL: IF YOU HEAR ALL OF THE PRIOR TESTIMONY BY CITIZENS AT THIS PARTICULAR HEARING? >> YES, I DID. I HEARD THE FOUR CITIZENS TESTIMONY. >>ELISE BATSEL: WAS THERE ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU HEARD THAT WE HAVE NOT ALREADY ADDRESSED AT THE PRIOR HEARING WITH EXPERT TESTIMONY AND COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE? >> MOST OF WHAT THEY DISCUED SUCD WEIGHING THE RISKS AGAINST IF BENEFITS AND THE OTHER INFORMATION WE HAD ALREADY ADDRESSED. I ONLY HEARD ONE NEW THING. SOMEONE MENTIONED A WINDSOCK. THAT'S TYPICAL. ANY FACILITY THAT HAS AIRBORNE CHEMICALS IT'S PART OF THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE, AND PART OF THE SAFETY SYSTEMS. OTHER THAN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE TO PREVIOUS >>ELISE BATSEL: THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR OUR TEAM, OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS. OTHERWISE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCILMEN, ANY QUESTIONS? MOVE TO CLOSE BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. MR. CITRO, CAN YOU READ ITEM NUMBER 57, SIR? >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE REZ 20-292. AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINY OF 5430 AND 5440 WEST TYSON AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IH HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED RESTAURANT RETAIL SHOPPERS GOODS, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.ES. I'M SORRY, CITRO. YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES VOTING NO AND DINGFELDER AND CARLSON ABSTAINING. >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 58. >>RYAN MANASSE: FILE REZ 21-09 BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 210 NORTH HUBERT AVENUE. THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU WAS TO REZONE FROM RS-50 AND RM-24 TO PD FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS? APPLICANT? >> SECOND FLOOR? >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MICHELINI? >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR, I HAVE BEEN SWORN BUT I WILL DO IT AGAIN IF YOU LIKE. >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK). >>STEVE MICHELINI: I DO. WE HAVE PROVIDED THE REVISED SITE PLANS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAN THE CITY STAFF REQUEST AND THE COUNCIL MOTION. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS? WE HAVE NOBODY TO SPEAK. MR. MANISCALCO MOTION TO CSE. ALL IN FAVOR? >> WHO WAS THE SECOND? >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M SORRY. SECOND BY CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. >>LUIS VIERA: I HEREBY MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, MOVE AN ORDINANCE REZONING PLOT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 210 SNORT HUBERT AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 350 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND RM-24 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M SORRY, WHAT ITEM ARE WE ON? 58 YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU COUNCIL. >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. ITEM9 IS FILE REZ 21-10. AN ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6072 WEST WARREN AVENUE AND 601 WEST EUCLID AVENUE. THE REZONING REQUEST WAS FROMR RM-16 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, REVISED SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK THAT ARE CERTIFIED, AS WELL AS JUST FOR YOUR INFO THERE IS A BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT THAT SAID RESOLUION BE ADOPTED AT THE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OF THIS ORDINANCE. STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS? >>THE CLERK: WE DID HAVE DUANE MELFORD REGISTERED TO SPEAK BUT HE IS NOT LOGGED ON AT THIS TIME. >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE] ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR? >>THE CLERK: NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO CLOSE BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. MR. MIRANDA, WOULD YOU READ ITEM NUMBER 59, SIR? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE REZ 21-10. >>LUIS VIERA: OH, YOU VOTED NO. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M SORRY, I VOTED NO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO REZ 21-10 I READ THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 602 WEST WARREN AVENUE AND 6501 WEST EUCLID AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MOWER PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, AND I BELIEVE -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S ALL THAT'S REALLY NECESSARY. I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU ABOUTR WERE GOING DO ADD ANYTHING ELSE BUT THERE'S AN ASSOCIATED RESOLUTION TO MOVE AFTER THIS ITEM. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECONDED BY MANISCALCO. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRDA VOTING NO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THE RESOLUTION ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ITEM FOR BONUS DENSITY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECONDED BY MANISCALCO. ROLL CALL. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO. >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM 60 IS 21-12 FOR SECOND READING ADOPTION FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 404 EAST SEWARD STREET, RS 350 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, CERTIFIED SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? ANY QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT? >>THE CLERK: WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT REGISTERED. HOWEVER THEY ARE NOT LOGGED ON AT THIS TIME. >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS ON THE SECOND FLOOR? MOVE TO CLOSE? MOTION BY MR.ANISCALCO. SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NUMBER 60, FILE REZ 21-12, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 404 EAST SEWARD STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ORLAO GUDES: SECONDED BY MR. MANISCALCO. ROLL CALL. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 61. >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. ITEM NUMBER 617 IS FILE REZ 21-14 BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 9904 NORTH 14th STREET AND THE REQUEST EUCLIDEAN REQUEST TO RM-1 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY GUESS WE HAVE THE APPLICANT. >>THE CLERK: THE APPLICANT MR. HUDAK? HE NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK). THAN YOU. PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION TO REVIEW THIS APPLICATION. I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION. IS THIS FOR THE REZ 21-15? I THINK IT WAS ITEM 62 ON YOUR AGENDA. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU WOULD BE CORRECT SIR. WE ARE ON 61. >> YOU ARE ON 61. OKAY. THEY ASKED MEO JUMP IN HERE. IT WAS 62. >>THE CLERK: YOU ARE CORRECT. IT'S NUMBER 62 SO STAND BY. WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE REGISTERED FOR ITEM NUMBER 61. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR? MOTION TO CLOSE BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIED. WE HAVE MR. CARLSON, PLEASE, SIR. >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE REZ 21-14, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONIN PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY. 9904 NORTH 14th STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO RM-18 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 62. RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. ITEM NUMBER 62 IS FILE REZ 21-15 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2710 AND 2724 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE. THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU WAS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST FROM RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE. STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THE APPLICANT? >> I'M HERE SIR. I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD AT THIS TIME. WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE REPORT AND T RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? >> NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE BY MR. CITRO. SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. MR. MANISCALCO, ITEM 62. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2710 AND 27 WESKLUM COLUMBUS DRIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORAL PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY CITRO. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 63. >>RYAN MANAS: ITEM 63, FILE REZ 21-16 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6800 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE. THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU WAS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST AND IT WAS FROM SH-RS AND SH-CI TO SH-RM. STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT? >>THE CLERK: I DO NOT HAVE NOE REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. MR. CITRO, ITEM 63, PLEASE SIR. >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE REZ 21-16 AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 6800 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION SH-RS SEMINOLE HEIGHTS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND SH-CI SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO SH-RM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 64. >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. REZ 21-17 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 902 EAST 2h AVENUE. THE REQUEST BEFORE IS YOU FROM RS-50 AND CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL DO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED. CERTIFIED SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? ANY QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT? >> I DO NOT HAVE AN APPLICANT REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM NOR ANY OTHER REGISTERED SPEAKERS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. MOVE TO CLOSE? MOVED BY MR. MANISCALCO. SECOND BY MR -- MOTIONARRI. >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 9027 EAST 25th AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY CITRO. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 65. >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. FILE REZ 21-19. IT'S BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING. THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2717 WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE. THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU WAS TO REZONE FROM CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RETAIL SALES, CONVENIENCE GOODS AND GASOLINE, REVISED PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR N QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT? >> YES. TYLER HUDSON IS LOGGED ON. HE JUST NEEDS TO TURN HIS VIDEO ON. >> IT SHOULD BE ON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I NEED TO BE SWORN FIRST, I GUESS. >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK). >> I DO. TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE. SINCE FIRST READING, I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AT FIRST READING AND REQUEST THAT AGAIN THIS AFTERNOON. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT ASK. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED TO SPEAK OR ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR? >> NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE BY MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY CITRO. ROLL CALL VOTE. CORRECTION. ALL IN FAVOR. ANYPPOS? WE GO TO MR. MIRANDA ON ITEM 65. TO READ, SIR? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE] AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2717 WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CG -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HATE TO STOP YOU BUT THE CLERK SAYS SHE CAN'T HEAR YOU SO IF YOUOULD GET CLOSER TO THE MIKE, PLEASE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NUMBER 65, REZ 21-19, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2717 WEST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RETAIL SALES, CONVENIENCE GOODS, AND GASOLINE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ROLL CALL VOTE. >>IS VIERA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER 66 IS FILE REZ 21-20 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1510, 1514, 1516 AND 1520 WEST SPRUCE STREET, 901 AND 1301 GREEN STREET, 1830 NORTH OREGON STREET AND THEN T FLOWING FOLLOW OWES, 179822.0016 AND 179822.032 AND 179822.0034 IT, FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, FROM NMU-35 WHICH IS NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT WAS ALL USE AS LOUD IN SECTION 212 TABLE 212.2 RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS, DRIVE UP ATM, PRIVATE SCHOOLS, COLLEGE UNIVERSITY, HOTEL MAXIMUM 200 ROOMS, BANK AND BANK WHRIVE THROUGH ATM, PROVIDED SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? ANY QUESTIONS? >> JAKE KRAMER, STEARNS WHENEVER, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET. >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN WE SEE HIM ON THE SCREEN? AND NEED TO BE SWORN IN, SIR. >>THE CLERK:NT DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WCOULD HAVE HIM ON THE MONITORS, PLEASE, IN THE CHAMBERS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S NOT ON THE COUNCILMANNORS. THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU. CAN YOU SEE ME? >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL. JAKE KRAMER, STEARNS WEAVER MILLER, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, WE APPRECIATE YOUR UNANIMOUS APPROVAL. THIS HELPS US CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD THE WEST REQUIRE PROJECT IN TAMPA WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN STARTED, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT TODAY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OUR OLE TEAM IS AVAILABLE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON THE SECOND FLOOR? >> NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO CLOSE BY MADGES, SECOND BY MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. MR. DINGFELDER, ITEM 66, SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ABSOLUTELY, MR. CHAIRMAN. WITH REGARD TO REZ 21-20, I'LL MOVE THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE A REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1510, 1514, 1516 AND 1520 WEST SPRUCE STREET, 901 AND 1301 GREEN STREET, 1830 NORTH OREGON STREET, AND FOLIO 179822-0016, 179822.0032, AND 179822 .0034 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION NMU 35 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, ALL USES ALLOWED IN SECTION 212, TABLE 212.2, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS, DRIVE-UP ATM, PRIVATE SCHOOLS, COLLEGE UNIVERSITY, HOTEL MAXIMUM OF 200 ROOMS, BANK AND BANK WITH DRIVE-THROUGH ATM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. SOUND LIKE QUITE A PROJECT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM 67 WAS HEARD EARLIER WITH, DRAWL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND ITEM 68, RESCHEDULED THAT TO JUNE 17th, 2021 AT 10:30 A.M. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND FROM MR. CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. WE GO TO NEW BUSINESS. MR. CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: NO,IR, THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU DID A WONDERFUL JOB TODAY, AND BEST OF LUCK MOVING FORWARD. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. MR. CITRO. >>JOSEPH CITRO: I SECOND THAT. WONDERFUL MEETING TODAY. NOTHING TODAY FROM ME, MR. CHAIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA? >>LUIS VIERA: I LIKE THE WAY YOU SAY THAT. NO, GREAT MEETING TODAY, SIR. CONGRATULATIONS AND TO EVERYBODY. I JUST HAD ONE MOTION IF I MAY. LAST NIGHT I WAS OUT AT K-BAR RANCH OVER IN NEW TAMPA, AND THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT ISSUES OUT THERE AT K-BAR RANCH INVOLVING THE PUBLIC SAFETY. FOUR OUT OF THE SIX FIRE STATIONS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH THE LONGEST RESPONSE TIMES ARE IN NEW TAMPA AND IT SEEMS THAT K-BAR RANCH BEARS THE BRUNT OF THAT. SO MANY DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED -R7 OF 700, I THINK IT WAS, NEW HOMES OUT THERE, MAYBE TWO AND A HALF OR SO YEARS AGO, AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES WITH MANSFIELD, FIRE SAFETY ISSUES, I GUESS IT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO THE MAYOR AND I WERE DOING A TOWN HALL OUT THE AND THAT NIGHT IN K-BAR RANCH THERE WAS A TRAGIC ACCIDENT WHERE A MOTHER WITH A 12-YEAR-OLD SON, THERE WAS A CRASH, AND SHE DROWNED AND DIED OUT THERE. AND JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES. I WOULD LIKE TO DO A WORKSHOP IF I MAY ON K-BAR RANCH PUBLIC SAFETY AND MOBILITY ISSUES. JUST TO BRING THAT TO THE FOREFRONT. I KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL BOOKED IN JUNE. WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT WORKSHOP THAT'S AVAILABLE? I WAS LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR HERE. WHAT'S THEEXT ONE THAT'S AVAILABLE? >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT AVAILABLE WILL BE SEPTEMBER 23rd. >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, SEPTEMBER 23rd. >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR. CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? >>LUIS VIERA: NO. I WANTED TO POINT OUT AS WELL IF I MAY, WASN'T IT YESTERDAY, THE DID IT COMMISSION PASSED $7.5 MILLION, THE NEW TAMPA ARTS CENTER, AND I ALWAYS LIKE TO JUST GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE, BUT FORMER COUNTY COMMISSIONER VICTOR CRIST, AND REALLY WORKED ON THAT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND HE'S NO LONGER IN OFFICE, AND JUST WANTED TO GIVE A OUTSHUTOUT TO HIM FOR HIS LONG WORK. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAT WORKED ON THAT, CITY STAFF, OTHER COMMISSIONERS, ET CETERA. BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING, I THINK HE WAS PROBABLY A STATE SENATOR, I'M THINKING BACK THEN, HE STARTED WORKING ON ARTS, AND COMMUNITY VENUES FOR N AND RTH TAMPA WITH THE IDEA BEING THE FIRST OF WHAT WOULD BECOME THE U AC/DC WHICH IS HIS BABY. MAYBE HE'S ONE OF NUMEROUS FATHERS AND MOTHERS, BUT CERTAINLY HIS BABY, THE U AC/DC, AND PART OF THAT VISION WAS FOR NEW TAMPA TO HAVE AN ARTS CENTER, AND THAT PASSED YESTERDAY. SO AGAIN KUDOS TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION, BUT ESPECIALLY FOR FORMER COMMISSIONER AND STATED SENATOR VICTOR CRIST. I WANTED TO ABSOLUTE HIM. SO THANK YOU. >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, MR. VIERA COULD, WE SCHEDULE THAT WORK FOR FOR 10:00 A.M. TIME CERTAIN SINCE WE HAVE AT 9:30 A.M.? >>LUIS VIERA: NO PROBLEM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM DEPUTY CLERK. MR. MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE A COUPLE, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE FIRST ONE IS APPOINTED ANDY SCAGLIONE TO THE BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE. HE HAD TO LEAVE THE STATE FOR A JOB CHANGE AND HE DID A FANTASTIC JOB AND I AM POINTING AN INDIVIDUAL THAT I KNOW IS WELL VERSED IN FINANCE. >>ORLANDO GES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MR. MIRANDA. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE POINTING MR. SCAGLIONE. >> YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE NEXT ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION PRESENT THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 MIDYEAR REVIEW FOR THE BUDGET ON MAY 20th IF POSSIBLE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. >>CHLIE MIRANDA:T ONE, WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING ITEM NUMBER 8, I KEPT TALKING ABOUT A WORKSHOP, BUT I COP SEE THAT I ERRED IN MY OWN JUDGMENT WHEN I VOTED FOR THE CONTINUATION OF NUMBER 8. AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT REVIEWED AGAIN, TAKE ANOTHER VOTE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MOTION TO RECONSIDER, MR. MIRANDA? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR. WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING ITEM NUMBER 8, I MENTIONED TWO OR THREE TIMES ABOUT A WORKSHOP, AND I ERRED AND I VOTED FOR CONTINUATION OF ITE NUMBER 8 INSTEAD OF WORK SHOPPING ITEM NUMBER 8. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO DO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THAT'S WHAT MY MOTION WAS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FINE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHERE ARE WE AT NOW? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THOUGHT IT WAS TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 8. I WANTED A WORKSHOP. >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S A WORK SHOWN. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND TO INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE THAT I OFFERED. >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT WAS TO PUT IT TO A WORKSHOP, CORRECTED? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FINE. I THOUGHT I MADE A MISTAKE AND I MADE A MISTAKE BY THINKING I MAD. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GOT A MEMO IN REFERENCE TO THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE. AS NOW, WE TALKED LAST YEAR REFERENCE TO MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE ON THAT BOARD IN FINANCE AND BUNDLING SO WHEN YOU MAKE THE REAPPOINTMENTS, AGAIN, GOT A GOOD PERSON ON THERE,ND IT'S GOING TO BE KEY. BUT I GET CALLS FROM THE PAST CHAIR AND APPARENTLY THE PHONE CALLS HAVEN'T BEEN RECEIVED AND RETURNED SO I AM GLAD THAT MR. MIRANDA AND MARY ARE ON THAT NOW. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT DETAIL, FOCUS, THERE YOU GO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: OH, YES. I KNOW. MR. DINGFELDER, HOW ABOUT YOU, SIR? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. TWO ITEMS. ONE, I WOULD LIKE FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE BEEN -- INTERESTING LEGAL WOD LE COUNCIL TO DIRECT MR.I SHELBY TO DO SOME RESEARCH AND COME BACK TO US WITH NOT NECESSARILY A LEGAL MEMORANDUM OR ANYTHING THAT FORMAL, BUT JUST SOME INFORMATION TO GIVE US FUTURE GUIDANCE, AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY AS RELATED TO THIS QUESTION OF EX PARTE INFORMATION. SO THE INSINUATION IS WE HAVE TO VIEW THESE REZONINGS WITH A TOTALLY BLANK SLATE WITH NOTHING IN OUR MIND. AND MY CONCERN IS, WE ALL BRING TO THE TABLE GENERAL KWLED, HISTORIC KNOWLEDGE, MR. MIRANDA HAS AN AMAZING HISTORIC KNOWLEDGE AND HE REMIND US ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WITHIN NEWSPAPER ARTICLES, SOMETIMES EVEN IN THE MIDDLE OF A REZONING, A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE MATE COME OUT EITHER IN THE BUSINESS JOURNAL OR THE TIMES OR WHAT HAVE YOU ABOUT THAT REZONING. DISCLOSE THAT WE READ THAT NEWSPAPER ARTICLE? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. BUT THAT ISSUE CAME UP TODAY, AND IT KIND OF TOOK ME BY SURPRISE A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN I THINK WE ARE ALL CREATURES OF GOOGLE NOW. I MEAN, HOW MANY OF US AT ONE POINT IN EVERY SINGLE DAY OF OUR LIVES MIGHT SAY, OH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, LET ME GOOGLE THAT, AND THEREFORE WE DID. AND I AM NOT TRYING TO DIRECT THAT RESEARCH IN ANY WAY AT ALL. BUT I THINK FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, FOR PURPOSES OF QUASI-JUDICIAL, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME GUIDANCE FROM MR. SHELBY ON THAT ISSUE. AND SO I THINK IT'S A VERY HARMLESS MOTION, AND I WOULD ASK FOR A SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. DINGFELDER. SECOND BY MR. VIERA. DID YOU 2021 SAY SOMETHING, MR. SHELBY? >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT FOR CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU. AND MR. CHAIRMAN, GOING BACK TO 2016, AND I WAITED UNTIL WE DON'T HAVE ANY RATTLESNAKE POINT ISSUES ON OUR PLATE, BUT GOING BACK TO 2016, THE COUNCIL IN 2016 WAS FACED WITH THE ISSUE OF ABOUT A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WAS A PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT THAT CHANGED THE LANGUAGE OF THAT CHEMICAL PLANT ISSUE AND SIGNIFICANTLY, OKAY? THAT CHANGE WAS OPPOSED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAIT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY. >>THE CLERK: WITH ALL DUE RESPECT AND PERHAPS IT'S NOT INAPPROPRIATE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WORKSHOP IT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS ARE IN THE 30-DAY APPEAL PERIOD. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE WORKSHOP IT IN AUGUST. OR SEPTEMBER. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD JUST BE CONCERNED ABOUT TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WON'T GET INTO SPECIFICS. ALL I WILL SAY IS, AS A MATTER OF RECORD, I WAS READING TODAY'S RECORD, AS A MATTER OF RECORD, THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED AGAINST THAT PLAN AMENDMENT, AND OUR CITY STAFF, OUR VERY OWN LACHONE DOCK, WROTE TO DAVID HEY AND RECOMMENDED THE CITY'S POSITION WAS AGAINST THAT AMENDMENT. I WLD LIKE TO WORKSHOP THAT AMENDMENT IN LET'S SAY SEPTEMBER, AND SEE IF WE STILL FEEL THAT THAT AMENDMENT WAS APPROPRIATE OR MAYBE WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT AMENDMENT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MR. DINGFELDER, SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOR SPECIFICITY THAT WAS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT 16 ON THE 02. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. >>THE CLERK: WOULD THAT BE A TIME SPECIFIC FOR 10:30? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THAT'S ALL I HAVE GOT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I PASS THE >>LUIS VIERA: I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE GOING, MS. WELLS WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MRS. WELLS, I'M SORRY. >>CATE WELLS: I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY, BUT I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD COUNCIL'S MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 8, BUT WITH THE DISCUSSION, COUNCIL JUST HAD, SPECIFICALLY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHAT THE ACTION IS, BECAUSE I UNDERSTOOD THAT IT'S A CONTINUANCE OF THE ITEM IN ORDER TO WORKSHOP IT IN JUNE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CONTINUANCE OF THE ITEM TO WORKSHOP IT IN JUNE BUT TO NOT ONLY WORKSHOP IT BUT TO FLUSH OUT THE CHANGES THAT I PROPOSED TODAY, AND TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE WORKSHOP. >>CATE WELLS: AS I UNDERSTOOD COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAYING NOT CONTINUE THAT ITEM. >> OH MY GOD. >>LUIS VIERA: WE CAN HEAR MR. CHAIR. >> I DIDN'T HEAR IT. >>LUIS VIERA: I HEARD SOMETHING. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHOA, WHOA. MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE GET FROM YOU GUYS UP THERE BUT BY THE TIME IT GETS TO US IT'S HALF MUMBLED. WE DON'T HEAR IT AS WELL. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HEARD YOU. >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT IF THAT WAS A STAFF MEMBER OR SOMEONE ELSE OR BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT WAS COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE. WHAT THEY SAID WAS, IF MR. DINGFELDER WOULD JUST SHOT UP. IF IT WAS A STAFF MEMBER -- IF IT WAS A STAFF MEMBER -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON HAS THE FLOOR. >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S UNACCEPTABLE. SURE, THE STAFF REPORT TO THE MAYOR, REPORTS TOTAL MAYOR BUT CITY COUNCIL HAS TO WORK WITH STAFF AND THAT WAS AN INAPPROPRIATE COMMENT IF A STAFF MEMBER MADE IT AND CHIEF BENNETT IS ON THERE AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT REFLECTIVE OF HOW HE OR THE MAYOR FEELS. THANK YOU. >>MARK BENTLEY: GOOD AFTERNOON. JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF. FIRST, UNRELATED TO WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, CONGRATULATIONS ON EVERYBODY WHO RECEIVED A CHAIR, PRO TEM OR VICE CHAIR ROLL TODAY. FIRST TIME I HAVE BEEN ON THIS AFTERNOON SO I WANT TO TAKE THAT MOMENT. AND THANKS TO PREVIOUS CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO FOR HIS SERVICE THROUGH THEAST YEAR. I ALSO PICKED UP ON THE COMMENT, AND I WILL WORK WITH TNI TO FIGURE OUT WHO IS ONLINE, WHETHER IT WAS THE PRIVATE SECTOR OR THE PUBLIC SIDE, AND SEE WHAT I CAN BRING BACK. BUT, YEAH, WE DON'T TOLERATE ANY KIND OF BEHAVIOR THAT'S NOT CONDUCIVE TO SERVING THE COMMUNITY THROUGH OUR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST AS LONG AS I CAN BE ASSURED IT WASN'T YOU. [ LAUGHTER ] I'M JUST KIDDING. ALL RIGHT. >>MARK BENTLEY: ANYWAY, THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MRS. WELLS, YOU CAN CONTINUE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK THE QUESTION REALLY GOES TO CHARLIE. IS THERE ANY CONFUSION AS TO MY MOTION? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW WHAT -- ALL I KNOW IS WE TALKED ABOUT NUMBER 8. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WORK SHOPPING THE WHOLE THING FROM THE BEGINNING. BECAUSE TO GO THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS, I DON'T THINK WE DID ENOUGH WORK TO MAKE THE REPRESENTATION LEGALLY ONE WAY AN I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR IT UP, HAVE A WORKSHOP, HAVE THE PEOPLE COME IN, BECAUSE THE WAY I WAS READING IT, IT COMES IN FOR FIRST READING AND TWO WEEKS LATER FOR SECOND READING, AND CERTAINLY DIDN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN WITHOUT ANY INPUT FROM BOTH SIDES, FROM LEFT OR RIGHT OR RIGHT TO LEFT, AND I THOUGHT I WAS WORK SHOPPING THE WHOLE IDEA SO LATER ON YOU CAN BRING IT BACK TO FIRST READING. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. AND I VOTED THE WRONG WAY IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER WAY. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT IN A WORKSHOP AND THEN THAT SAME DAY AT FIRST READING, I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE INTENT IS JUST DO WORKSHOP. SO -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S THE WAY I INTERPRET IT. MR. MIRANDA, WAS JUST A WORKSHOP AND WE WOULD GO FROM THERE. I DON'T THINK ANYTHING WAS A FIRST READING AT THAT WORKSHOP, OR ANY TYPE OF INTENT THAT WAY. BUT MY ANTENNAS WERE UP BECAUSE I CAN TELL THAT THE SMOKE DIDN'T REALLY CLEAR RIGHT NOW BUT AGAIN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO RAISE THAT, AND AGAIN, THE WAY I INTERPRET IT, IT WAS A WORKSHOP OF ALL THE RESPECTERS OF THE SITUATION AND WE WOULD MOVE FROM THERE BUT THERE WAS NOTHING OF AN ORDINANCE COMING BACK TO MY UNDERSTANDING. IS THAT CORRECT, MR. DINGFELDER? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION THEN, MR. MIRANDA, ARE YOU WITHDRAWING YOUR MOTION? ARE YOU SATISFIED, SIR? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SATISFIED JUST FOR A WORKSHOP. THAT'S WHAT I SAID IN THE BEGINNING. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL SATISFIED? MS. WELLS, IN AITIO ELSE, MA'AM? >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, CAN I PASS THE GAVEL TO YOU, SIR? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOT IT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE TAMPA JUNIOR COALITION TO RECEIVE A COMMENDATION HONORING OUR EFFORTS IN BRINGING CULTURAL AWARENESS TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT BLACK HISTORY PRESENTED AT THE JUNE 3rd, JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION IN TAMPA. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE A MOTION. DID WE HAVE A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OOSED CARRY ON. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY SECOND ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO GIVE DETAILS FOR THE PROGRESS OR DIRECTION FOR THE REPAIR OF A SEAWALL IN THE PALMETTO BEACH BERMUDA ISLAND. I WOULD LIKE THIS TO TAKE PLACE AT A JUNE 3rd REGULAR SESSION OF COUNCIL. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE A MOTION BY THE CHAIRMAN. SECOND BY MR. MIRANDA. ANY CONVERSATION? I BELIEVE MR -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I BELIEVE MR. MANISCALCO HAD HIS HAND BEFORE I SAID AYE. DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT?. CIT, >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, PLEASE. AND IF I MAY, I WANT TO REALLY HEAR THIS WORKSHOP AND THIS REPORT BUT WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT DIFFERENCES DURING SEA LEVEL RISE INSTEAD OF REPAIRING SEAWALLS TO MAKING SURE THAT MANGROVES GOP IN. SO WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT THAT ALSO DURING THIS REPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR MOTION? THINK, WOULD BE FINE SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALSO, WE HAVE GOT A MOTION FROM CAROLE POST IN REFERENCE TO THE STAFF REPORT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHAPTER 27 ASKING FOR IT TO BE WORKSHOPPED ON MAY 27th. IS THAT CORRECT, MR. SHELBY? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS PROVIDED, THAT MEMO WAS PROVIDED TO CITY COUIL, AND THE CLERK DOES HAVE A COPY OF IT. IT'S A MOTION ON MAY 27th WORKSHOP. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO WE HAVE A TIME CERTAIN, MADAM CLERK? >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAY CALENDAR, THAT WAS BEFORE COUNCIL HIGH PRESSURE ITS SPECIAL DISCUSSION MEETING AND TAKING ACTION AND IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A WORK IN PROGRESS WHEN WE BRING BACK THE RULES. BUT ALSO FOR 9:00, IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THEY ARE GROUPED, SEVERAL OF THEM ARE GROUPED FOR THE PURE PROJECT AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A MEMO THAT'S GOING TO BE FOLLOWING RELATING TO ADDING TO THE PURE PROJECT. THEN THERE ARE THE CHAPTER 27 DISCUSSIONS, AND THAT TAKES PLACE SOMEWHERE AS TO THE SECOND FROM THE LAST. SO PERHAPS, TO ADD THESE, WE CAN ASK THE CLERK TO GROUP THEM WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, TO GROUP THEM IN SORT OF AN ORDER. OTHERWISE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT. YOU WILL HAVE TO DO THAT THE DAY OF THE WORKSHOP. IF YOU SET IT FOR THE 9:00 AS COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO GROUP THEM BY SUBJECT MATTER, WE CAN RESET THEM IN A CERTAIN ORDER WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOLD ON A SECOND, BILL. CAN WE RESET THE TWO WEEKS FROM NOW AND STILL HAVE TIME BEFORE THE ACTUAL WORKSHOP? MR. SHELBY? >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU MEAN REORDER THEM? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AGREE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, I SUSPECT WE CAN. MADAM CLERK? >> THAT WILL NOT BE AN ISSUE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CARLSON, YOUR COMMENT? >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY. I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY IF% THE PURE PROJECT CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD THAT CROWDS ARE GOING TO GET LARGER AND LARGER AND PUBLIC COMMENT. SO IT COULD BE LONG PUBLIC COMMENT THAT DAY. THAT'S JUST THE NEXT MEETING BUT THEY ARE GOING TO GET LARGER AND LARGER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EVEN MORE REASON TO TRY TO SEGREGATED THE TOTALLY DIFFERENT ISSUES FROM EACH OTHER DURING THAT SESSION, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: RECEIVED A SECOND MEMO FROM CHIEF OF STAFF REGARDING COUNCIL IN CHAMBERS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S ACTUALLY A THIRD ONE, SIR. IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE MAY 27th WORKSHOP FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS FOR THE 5% OF DIMENSIONAL CRITERIA AS STATED IN THE MOTION, IT'S WHAT I GUESS THE ADMINISTRATION IS CALLING ADMINISTRATIVE LAW CREATION, I BELIEVE THAT WAS AT COUNCIL'S INITIATIVE TO BRING TO THE ADMINISTRATION TO ASK FOR. HAS THAT BEEN ADDED TO THE MAY 27 WORKSHOP OR IS THAT STILL TO BE VOTED ON? >> STILL TO BE VOTED ON. >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. CAN WE TAKE A VOTE TO ADD THAT TO THE MAY 27th WORKSHOP? BECAUSE WOULD WHAT COULD HAPPEN, COUNCIL, WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH THE UPDATED CALENDAR YOU WILL SEE WHAT'S ON MAY 27th AND QUITE FRANKLY YOU HAVE AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE MEETING GENERALLY, AND TWO DECISIONS FROM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, TWO REVIEW HEARINGS, IT LOOKS LIKE. BUT THEY ARE ALL SIMILARLY RELATED. AND THERE'S ANOTHER MOTION, IF YOU TAKE THIS MOTION ON THE SAME PAGE FROM ABBEY FEELEY, REQUESTING ANOTHER ISSUE RELATED TO CHAPTER 27, THAT THEY ARE ALSO ASKING FOR MAY 27th. >>THE CLERK: MARTY THAT ONE IS ALREADY PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 27TH. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT ALREADY IS? OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY GOOD. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO, MR. CHAIRMAN HAS A PROPOSAL FROM STAFF TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL CHAPTER 27 ITEM. WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT FIRST? >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES. MOTION AND SECOND THAT'S ON THE FLOOR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE HAVE A SECOND? >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CITRO SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FURTHER? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? ANY OPPOSED? >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW, MADAM CLERK -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND THEN MR. SHELBY, INFORMALLY, I GUESS AT SOME POINT TWO WEEKS FROM NOW YOU WILL COME BACK AND HELP US ORGANIZE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE 27th? >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR. PERHAPS THE CLERK CAN WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND I WILL CERTAINLY PARTICIPATE IN THAT TO ZO THAT. IF I CAN INQUIRE OF THE CLERK WITH REGARD TO BRAD BAIRD'S MEMORANDUM REQUESTING FOR ITEMS, DID YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT UP NEXT? >> YES. THAT IS THE NEXT MOTION, AND THIS ONE IS DULY REQUESTING TO BE SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 24th WORKSHOP. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS THAT'S ME, MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU CAN TAKE IT BACK. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. WE JUST NEED A SECOND ON THE MOTION. >> SECOND. >> ON BEHALF OF THE WATER DEPARTMENT, IT LOOKS LIKE, LET'S SEAY SEE, THEY ARE REQUESTING THAT THE -- WHAT DOES THIS MEAN EXACTLY? THE ADMINISTRATION REQUESTING THAT THE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION UPDATE WHICH INCLUDES THE FINDING FROM THE FOUR COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS OF PUBLIC SURVEY BE PROVIDED AT COUNCIL'S JUNE 24th, 2021 WORKSHOP. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. >> SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND DO WE PUT A TIME ON THAT, MR. SHELBY? MISS CLERK? >> THE NEXT AVAILABLE TIME IS 11:30. 11:30 A.M. I TAKE THAT BACK. THE MOTION YOU MADE EARLIER WAS SET FOR 11:30 A.M. I DON'T KNOW IF WE SET IT IF YOU ARE TAKING A BREAK. WE CAN SET IT AFTER THE BREAK. JUNE 24th. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE SET THAT NEW, OR -- SET IT FOR 11:30 AND CERTAINLY I WILL WORK WITH THE CHAIR TO BE ABLE TO WORK OUT THE TIMING ISSUES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOR NOW JUNE 24th AT 11:30. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE GOING TO GO OVER ANYWAY. SO TIME CERTAIN REALLY ISN'T GOING TO HELP HALF THE TIME TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. IF WE HAVE THAT MANY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M HAPPY TO HELP YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: AGAIN I HAVE A MEMO FROM THE CHIEF OF AND A HALF REFERENCE TO THE CONVENTION CENTER. I'M SORRY? WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, MR. DINGFELDER, SECOND, MR. MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, IN REFERENCE TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF, THE CONVENTION CENTER AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS A MEMO THAT WAS SENT PREVIOUSLY BY THE CHIEF OF STAFF I.DON'T KNOW WHETHER HE'S STILL ON THE LINE AND WANTS TO ADDRESS IT BUT I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, WE DID TALK ABOUT IT, AND I PROVIDED IT TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY I BELIEVE IT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT NOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE CHIEF OF STAFF WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A WALK-THROUGH WITH YOU AND TO DISCUSS THE OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND PERHAPS BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL SO YOUR OFFICE PERHAPS CAN SCHEDULE THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. BENNETT IS ON THE LINE AND WISHES TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS CHIEF STILL ON THE LINE? IF NOT, MR. SHELBY WILL GET WITH SONYA, AND SONYA CAN SET UP THE WALK-THROUGH. THERE HE IS. >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN. CHIEF OF STAFF. WHEN WE DID THE TRANSITIONAL WALK-THROUGH DATING BACK TO THE SUPER BOWL PERIOD TO KIND OF THE RECENT TIME, IF YOU WILL, BEFORE THE CHAIRMAN CHANGED ROLES, WE SAW SOME OPPORTUNITIES IN CHAMBERS TO IMPROVE THE EXPERIENCE, AND ALSO PROGRESS WITH THE DECLINING OF THE PANDEMIC, BUT YET STILL KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE, SOCIALLY DISTANCED, SAN TASED, ET CETERA. SO I JUS THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD BENCHMARK WITH THE CHANGE OF THE CHAIRS TO DO ANOTHER WALK-THROUGH BOTH FOR THE CHAMBER SPACE AND THE OFFICE SPACE, AND MAKE SURE THAT FACILITIES HAS ALL THE VISIONARY OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC IN THESE FORUMS AS WELL AS THE OTHER BOARDS. SO IF THE CHAIRMAN IS AMENABLE TO THAT I WILL WORK WITH THE FACILITIES TEAM AND WE WILL ARRANGE THAT IN SHORT ORDER. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. THAT WILL BE FINE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD FOLLOW-UP FOR CITY COUNCIL, FOR PURPOSES OF NEXT WEEK'S MEETING, OF COURSE, THE NOTICES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE POSTED. YOU HAVE A CRA MEETING NEXT WEEK, AND YOU HAVE AN EVENING MEETING REZONINGS. AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY VERY BRIEFLY TO SPEAK WITH MR. MASSEY RELATIVE TO THE CRA. BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO USE MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING, THE MEETINGS UNTIL THERE'S DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL WILL BE CONTINUING PRETTY MUCH IN THE PSALM FORMAT, BUT AS WE WORK WITH THE CHAIR, AND THE CHAIR WORKS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, THERE WILL BE CHANGES, OBVIOUSLY, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, AND THOSE WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL. , THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CHANGES, SO YOU HAVE GOT TO GO WITH THE TIMES AND MAKE SURE WE STILL STAY SAFE. OF COURSE AS YOU ALL KNOW, MOST OF THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE BEEN VACCINATED, BUT WHEN DON'T NONWHO IS COMING INTO THE HOUSE SO WE NEED TO STILL PROTECT THE HOUSE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO THE SECOND FLOOR WILL STILL BE UTILIZED THE SAME AS THIS WEAK AND IN THE PAST AS WE MOVE FORWARD NEXT CREEK. THANK YOU, SIR: >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY MR. CITRO. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. WE ARE ADJOURNED. WOULD BE THEN? >> IT WOULD BE LEGAL. >>BRET FELDMAN; COUPLE OF STICKS. >>DUSTIN PASTEUR: WOULDN'T BE THERE FOR -- THAT WOULD RESOLVE BOTH OF