AUGUST 7, 2023 PLANO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT. AUGUST 7th PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. IT'S 7:05. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] >> COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PE SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON TH CURRENT AGENDA. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIF THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? >> NO, WE DO NOT. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE TO CONSENT. >> CONSENT AGENDA. THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NONCONTROVERSIAL. ITEMS MAY BEEMOVED FROTHIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. WOULD ANY STAFF MEMBER OR COMMISSIONER LIKE TO REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> I MOVE WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS SUBMITTED. >> Chair Downs: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TONG TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASE VOTE. THAT ITEM CONSENT CARRIES 8-0. OKAY. I THINK BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEMS, WE'RE GOING TO MODIFY THE ORDER. AND SO IF YOU WANT TO START WITH NO. 6. LET'S DO 6, 7, AND 8 AND WE'LL COME BACK TO 1A AND 1B. >> ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSID PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. UNLESS INSTRUCTED OTHERWISE BY THE CHAIR, SPEAKERWILLE CLED IN THE ORDER REGISTRATIONS ARE APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES OF PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL, IF NEEDED. REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME, WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER. THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY MODIF THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS MUST BE APPROVED IF THEY MEET CITY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIO LEGISLATIVE CONSIDERATION ITEMS ARE MORE DISCRETIONARY, EXCEPT AS CONSTRAINED BY LEGAL CONSIDR AGENDA ITEM NO. 6. PUBLIC HEARING - REPLAT: CLASSIC BMW ADDITION, BLOCK 1, LOT 1R - NEW VEHICLE DEALER ON ONE LOT O 23.6 ACRES LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY AND SPRING CREEK ZONED COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT WIT SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NO. 539 FOR NEW CAR DEALER AND LOCATED WITHIN THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT. APPLICANT: VHC, LLC. THIS IS AD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. I'M PARKER McDOWELL, PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. STAFF RECOMMENDS THE ITEMS SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? >> [OFF MIC] >> Chair Downs: SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. CONFINE THE DISCUSSION TO THE COMMISSION. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE ITEM 6 AS PRESENTED. >> Chair Downs: A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF -- SORRY, MR. BROUNOFF, WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKY TO APPROVE ITEM 6 AS SUBMITTED. PLEASE VOTE. THAT ITEM CARRIES 8-0. I'LL TRY TO DO BETTER WATCHING THAT FOR QUESTIONS. YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY THOUGH, RIGHT? >> [OFF MIC] >> Chair Downs: VERY GOOD. ITEM 7, PLEASE. >> AGENDA ITEM NO. 7. PUBLIC HEARING - REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT AND PRELIMINARY REPLAT: 12TH STREET AT GRADE STATION, BLOCK A, LOT 1, AND BLOCK B, LOT 1- TRANSIT CENTER/ STATION ON TWO LOTS ON 4.3 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF K AVENUE AND 12TH PLA ZONED LIGHT COMMERCIAL WITH SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NO. 166 FOR TRANSIT CENTER/STATION. APPLICANT: CITY OF PLANO AND DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT. THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONS. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. I'M RAHA POULADI, THE PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT AND PRELIMINARY REPLAT SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND/OR ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQRED B THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM, TECHNICAL QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SEEING NONE, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? >> NO, WE DO NOT. >> Chair Downs: I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COMMISSIONER BROUNOFF. >> Brounoff: I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THIS ITEM SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND/OR ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROUNOFF WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OLLEY TO D BY STAFF. PLEASE VOTE. THAT ITEM CARRIES 8-0. ITEM 8. >> AGENDA ITEM NO. 8. PUBLIC HEARING - PRELIMINARY REPLAT AND REVISED SITE PLAN: PITMAN CORNERS ADDITION, BLOCK 3, LOT 11 - CAR WASH ON ONE LOT ON 1.3 ACRES LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF CUSTER ROAD, 558 FEET NORTH OF 15TH STREET. ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT-79- RETAIL. APPLICANT: SILVER STAR CAR WASH THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONS. >> THANK YOU, MS. BRIDGES. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY REPLAT SUBJECT TO ADDITIONS AND/OR ALTERATIONS TO THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. AS FOR THE REVISED SITE PLAN, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? NONE? OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? >> WE DO NOT. ANSWER QUESTIONS ON ZOOM.TO >> Chair Downs: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR. RATLIFF. >> Ratliff: I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY REPLAT SUBJECT TO THE ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS AS REQUIRED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND THE REVISED PLAN AS SUBMITTED. >> SECOND. >> Chair Downs: SHE TURNED HER MIC ON. YOU WERE JUST TOO FAST. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BROUNOFF. IT'S N A RACE, GUYS. TO APPROVE ITEM 8 PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. PLEASE VOTE. THAT ITEM CARRIES 8-0. THANK YOU. WE CAN GO BACK TO 1A AND 1B AND WE CAN PRESENT THOSE TOGETHER PLEASE. AGENDA ITEM NO. 1A. PUBLIC HEARING: ZONING CASE 2022-009 - REQUEST TO REZONE 19.1 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF PLANO PARKWAY AND EXECUTIVE DRIVE FROM CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL TO PLANNED DEVELOPME PETITIONER: ONLAP PROPERTY OWNERS, LLC. THIS IS FOR LEGISL AGENDA ITEM NO. 1B. PUBLIC HEARING - CONCEPT PLAN: FRY'S ELECTRONIC ADDITION, BLOCK A, LOTS 1-37 AND 1X-8X, AND BLOCK B, LOT 1 - MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, PROFESSIONAL GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE, SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE ATTACHE UNITS, AND HOTEL ON 16.5 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF PLANO PARKWAY AND EXECUTIVE DRIVE. ZONED CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL AND LOCATED WITHIN THE 190 TOLLWAY/PLANO PARKWAY OVERLAY D APPLICANT: ONLAP PROPERTY OWNERS, LLC. THIS IS FOR ADMINI. >> McQUEENING, COMMISSIONERS, MY NAM IS DONNA SEPULVEDA, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONING TO CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL TO ALLOW FOR MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL AND SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE ATTACHED AS PERMITTED USES . SUBJECT PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW. THIS CASE WAS DENIED BY THE P&Z COMMISSION ON MAY 1, 2023 AND THE APPLICANT APPEALED THE DECISION TO CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 26. CITY COUNCIL REMANDED THE CASE BACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THE APPLICANT HAS MADE CHANGES REGARDING OPEN SPACE AND AIR FILTRATION AND THESE CHANGES DO NOT AFFECT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. THE APPLICANT CHANGED THE SETBACK OF OPEN SPACE FROM 150 FEET TO 300 FEET AS SHOWN BY THE RED LINE ON THE SCREEN. THE SETBACK BETTER REFLECTS LOCATION OF THE OPEN SPACE SHOWN IN GREEN, WHICH HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE THE PREVIOUS MEETING. THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO INCREASED AIR FILTRATION STANDARDS AND THE PD LANGUA. THE REQUEST NOW INCLUDES REQUIREMENTS THAT EACH OUTDOOR AIR SOURCE VENTILATION UNIT MUST CONTAIN A FILTER BOX ON THE INTAKE SIDE OR FILTER HOUSING.& ADDITIONALLY, THE STANDARDS INCLUDE A COMMITMENT THAT THE FILTER BOXES MUST BE MERV8 STANDARD OR GREATER. A CONCEPT PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED WITH THE ZONING REQUEST. THE CONCEPT PLAN CONSISTS OF TWO PHASES SHOULD GO THE MID-RISE TOWNHOMES OFFICE HOTEL, AND THE OPEN SPACE. AND THE CONCEPT PLAN REMAINS UNCHANGED FROM THE MAY P&Z MEETING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE OPEN SPACE SETBACK. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED EXPRESSWAY CORRIDORS ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. AS MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS, THIS REQUEST MEETS SOME OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES BUT NOT ALL OF THEM. THIS REQUEST IS STILL INCONSISTENT WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT POLICY AND THIS REQUEST WILL REQUIRE FINDINGS. THE MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL REMAINS UNCHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING 501 UNITS AND THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES POSED BY THE MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE ALSO REMAINS THE SAME. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 33 UNITS AND STAFF STILL HAS CONCERNS REGARDING THE PLACEMENT AND DESIGN OF THE UNITS. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CLOSE TO THE BUSH DART STATION, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY .42 MILES AWAY. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE EHA-1 AND EHA-2 AREAS. THE NOISE STUDY HAS NOT CHANGED BUT THE APPLICANT HAS ADDED THE INCREASED AIR FILTRATION STANDARDS. AND TO PROTECT FROM THE NOISE, THE APPLICANT IS PLACING A RESIDENTIAL SETBACK, A MINIMUM OF 435 FEET AWAY FROM THE STATE HIGHWAY 190 FRONTAGE ROAD, ADDING TEMPORARY BERMS IN PHASE 1, CREATING BALCONY RESTRICTIONS WHERE EXTERIOR NOISE LEVELS EXCEED 65 DBA AND PROVIDING NOISE AND POLLUTION MITIGATION MEASURES. THIS PRODUCED SOME PROTECTION FROM THE RESIDENTS, ENSURING INTERIOR NOISE LEVELS ARE SUFFICIENT . THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING PD STIPULATIONS TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RESIDENTIAL USES. THE FIRST STIPULATION IS REGARDING TRACTS. TRACT 1 INCLUDES THE 501 MID-RISE UNITS, OPEN SPACE, AND OFFICE . AND TRACT 2 INCLUDES STANDARDS TO ACCOMMODATE A FUTURE HOTEL DEVELOPMENT. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING OPEN SPACE USE AND PHASING REQUIREMENTS. THE ONLY CHANGE IS THE 1.5 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE MUST BE SET BACK A MINIMUM OF 300 FEET FROM WEST HIGHWAY 75 AND STATE HIGHWAY 190. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING STANDARDS RELATING TO THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING NOISE LEVELS, MODIFIED SETBACKS, HEIGHT LIMITATIONS, FAR, UNIT SIZES AND SCREENING RESTRICTIONS AS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, THE APPLICANT HAS ADDED AIR FILTRATION REQUIREMENTS SINCE THE LAST P&Z MEETING . LASTLY, THE APPLICANT HAS ADDED PD STIPULATIONS RELATING TO SETBACKS, LANDSCAPE EDGES, AND DESIGN STANDARDS. AND WE HAVE RECEIVED THREE RESPONSES IN SUPPORT WITHIN THE 200-FOOT BUFFER. WE DID RECEIVE ONE DUPLICATE RESPONSE FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR RESPONSES. CITYWIDE, WE RECEIVED 42 UNIQUE RESPONSES, 12 IN SUPPORT, TWO NEUTRAL, 28 IN OPPOSITION. FIVE OF THOSE RESPONSES WERE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF PLANO AND WE DID RECEIVE SEVEN DUPLICATE RESPONSES FOR A TOTAL OF 49 RESPONSES. TO SUMMARIZE, THE APPLICANT HAS MADE IMPROVEMENTS ON AIR LTRAON AND OPEN SPACE SETBACKS. THIS REQUEST WILL AID IN THE CITY'S GOAL OF REDEVELOPMENT IN THE U.S. 75 CORRIDOR AND MEETS OTHER STANDARDS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUCH AS THE MIX OF USES. HOWEVER, OTHER POLICIES FOCUSED ON REDEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT ARE MORE CHALLENGED BY THIS REQUEST. AS A RESULT, THE CURRENT ZONING SHOULD REMAIN UNCHANGED TO ALLOW OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE BETTER ALIGNED WITH THE LONG-TERM VISION OF THE COMMUNITY. FOR THIS REASON, STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST AND APPROVAL WILL REQUIRE FINDINGS. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. BROUNOFF. >> Brounoff: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. DOES THE APPLICATION CONTAIN ANY SPECIFIC LANDSCAPE PLANS FOR THE OPEN SPACE AREA? OTHER THAN JUST BY DESIGNATING IT OPEN SPACE? >> IF APPROVED, A LANDSCAPE PLAN WILL COME IN WITH THE SITE PLAN FOR REVIEW. SO WE DON'T HAVE ONE AT THIS TIME. >> Brounoff: THE SITE PLAN IN THE FUTURE WOULD CONTAIN THAT. >> YES, WE'LL REQUEST A LANDSCAPE PLAN. >> Brounoff: I NOTICED THAT THE APPLICATION DOES CONTAIN LANDSCAPE SPECIFICS FOR THE BERMS, FOR THE STREET SETBACK AREAS, AND FOR THE WEST PROPERTY LINE. BUT NOT FOR THE OPEN SPACE. >> YES. IF APPROVED, WHEN WE RECEIVE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, WE WILL REVIEW THE PD STIPULATIONS. >> Brounoff: OKAY. NOW, WHAT PHASE -- I MEAN, I DERSND THAT THE OFFICE BUILDING IS IN PHASE 2, IS THAT CORRECT, OF CONSTRUCTION? >> LET ME BACK UP. MR. HILL, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YEAH. SO PHASE 1 IS 260 MID-RISE UNITS. THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE AND A MINIMUM OF 33 SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS. >> Brounoff: PHASE 2 WOULD BE EVERYTHING ELSE? >> PHASE 2 TY NEED A MINIMUM OF 70,000 WHICH COULD BE IN TRACT 1 OR TRACT 2. >> Brounoff: YEAH, SO THE HOTEL IS IN PHASE 2. >> POTENTIALLY. 70,000 SQUARE FEET AND THEIR CONCEPT PLAN DOES SHOW A HOTEL BEING ROUGHLY AROUND THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE. >> Brounoff: IT HAS 75,000 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR SPACE? YES? >> APPROXIMATELY. >> Chair Downs: IEE MR. BRONSK AND MR. CARY. WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CAUSING IT BUT IF WE CAN MANAGE THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I DON'T KNOW HOW BAD IT IS FOR THE AUDIENCE BUT DOWN HERE IT'S PRETTY BAD. NEXT UP WAS COMMISSIONER BRONSKY. >> Bronsky: ON A LANDSCAPING QUESTION AS WELL. WHEN I VISITED THE PROPERTY, I NOTICED NOT JUST IN THE AREA OF THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING THE OPEN SPACE, WHICH I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY -- THEY'RE PROPOSING MORE OPEN SPACE THAN WHAT IS CUR. BUT MY QUESTION IS THERE ARE A LOT OF MATURE TREES THAT RING THAT PROPERTY, BOTH ON PLANO PARKWAY AS WELL AS ALL THE WAY AROUND EXECUTIVE. IS THERE -- I KNOW WHEN I TALKED EARLIER TO ERIC, THEY SAID EVERY 50 FEET WAS REQUIRED TO HAVE A TREE, BUT THERE IS NOTHING REQUIRING THEM TO MAINTAIN THOSE NICE OLDER TREES AS OPPOSED TO REPLACING THEM WITH ALL NEWER TREES, LIKE AURORA 190 IS ACROSS THE WAY. >> CORRECT. SO THEY CAN REMOVE TREES ON SITE AND WE WILL REVIEW THAT AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. AND THEY WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE MITIGATION IF THEY REMOVE ANY TREES. >> Bronsky: THEY'LL HAVE TO MITIGATE FOR EVERY TREE THEY REMOVE? >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING. WE HAVE CERTAIN PROVISIONS IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE TREE MITIGATION FOR CERTAIN INSTANCES, LIKE BUILDING PADS, FIRE LANE, UTILITIES. IF A TREE IS REMOVED, THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE THEIR FIRE LANE AND BUILDING PAD IN THAT AREA, THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO MITIGATION. HOWEVER, TREES THAT ARE LARGER THAN 8 CALIPER INCHES AND THEY'RE NOT LOCATED IN THOSE EXEMPT AREAS, THEY ARE SUBJECT TO MITIGATION AND THE APPLICANT CAN DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO MITIGATE IT ON A 1:1 RATIO OR PAY THE MITIGATION FEE WHICH THE CITY OF PLANO WILL UTILIZE TO PLANT MEDIAN TREES. >> Bronsky: THAT'S MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER CARY. >> Cary: YEAH, JUST ONE QUESTION DONNA. SO THERE'S AN INCREASED SETBACK HERE BUT I DON'T THINK THAT AFFECTS THE OPEN SPACE. AND AS I REMEMBER IT, THE OPEN SPACE STILL DOESN'T REALLY MEET THE STANDARDS FOR NOISE. AM I CORRECT ABOUT THAT? >> THE OPEN SPACE LOCATION HAS NOT CHANGED. THE SETBACK HAS CHANGED FROM 150 TO 300 FEET. AND I BELIEVE THE NOISE STUDY WAS ONLY FOR THE RESIDENTIAL. >> THE NOISE INFORMATION IN THE ORDINANCE ALSO COVERS SENSITIVE LAND USES SUCH AS PARKS. IT DOESN'T REALLY APPLY TO PRIVATE OPEN SPACE. BUT THE OPEN SPACE WOULD HAVE SIMILAR NOISE LEVELS. SO IT WOULD BE, IN SOME AREAS, EXCEEDING THE NOISE RECOMMENDATIONS. >> Cary: TANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: IS THATT? NO MORE QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL BRING THE APPLICANT FORWARD. >> BRIAN WOLFF. >> Chair Downs: GOOD EVENING >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. AS A REMINDER, MY NAME IS BRIAN WOLFF, 4403 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY. I BELIEVE YOU ALL KNOW THIS PROPERTY AND PROJECT PRETTY WELL AT THIS POINT SO I'LL TRY WEEN TO CITYOUNC ABOUTICK. A MONTH AGO. THEY INITIALLY VOTED 6-3 TO APPROVE OUR PROJECT BUT THAT DIDN'T MEET THE SUPERMAJORITY THAT WE MEET THE SO THEY ASKED US TO COME BACK TO P&Z TO FURTHER CLARIFY SOME THINGS, MAINLY REGARDING THE EHA. SO THE FIRST THING THAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY IS WHICH EHA ZONING OUR RESIDENTIAL IS LOCATED IN. I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION OVER WHETHER OUR RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WERE IN EHA 1 OR THE MORE RESTRICTIVE EHA-2. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT , ALL OF OUR RESINTIA D WITHIN THE EHA-1 WHERE THAT USE IS APPROPRIATE SO LONG AS WE COMPLETE THE EHA SITE ANALYSIS BY THE INDUSTRY EXPERT AND IMPLEMENT ALL THEIR RECOMMENDED MITIGATIONS FOR THE POLICY. THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS OUR AIR POLLUTION MITIGATIONS. THE CITY OF PLANO'S 2019 EHA STUDY STATES, QUOTE, IT IS CLEAR BASED ON THE RECENT RESEARCH THAT THE ZONE LOCATED WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE EDGE OF THE ROADWAY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE HIGHER LEVELS OF SOME LLUTTS. AS A REMINDER, WE ARE PROVIDING A 435-FOOT MINIMUM SETBACK FOR THE RESIDENTIAL, SO WE'RE WELL BEYOND THAT. OUR EHA STUDY CONCLUDED THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE NOT EXPECTED TO EXPERIENCE HIGHER CONCENTRATIONS OF HIGHWAY-BASED AIR POLLUTANTS. DESPITE THAT, LAST TIME AROUND, WE ADDED LANGUAGE TO OUR PD STIPULATIONS REGARDING THE MECHANICAL VENTILATION AND WHERE IT COULD BE LOCATED AND IN WHICH DIRECTION. WE DECIDED TO ADD FURTHER MITIGATIONS REGARDING AIR POLLUTION WITH INCREASED AIR FILTRATIONER COUNCILMEMBER SMITH'S REQUEST. WE HAVE COMMITTED TO THE MERV8 AIR FILTRATION STANDARD, WHICH IS THE SAME STANDARD AS THE RECENTLY-APPROVED J PLACE PROJECT TO THE SOUTHEAST OF US LOCATED WITHIN THE EHA-2ENED SIGNIFICANTLY CLOSER TO THE EXPRESSWAY. ADDITIONALLY WE CLARIFIED OUR OPEN SPACE SETBACK SHOWING THAT IT WOULD ALSO BE OUTSIDE OF 300-FOOT ZONE . THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT WAS UNIVERSAL DESIGN. ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ASKED ME HOW WE INCORPORATE UNIVERSAL DESIGN AND INCLUSIVENESS INTO OUR PROJECT. I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD TOPIC THAT WE HAVE NOT YESTERDAY DISCUSSED AND SOMETHING WE DO QUITE A BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN MANY OTHER DEVELOPERS. NOW UNIVERSAL DESIGN CAN BE FOR ELDERLY, CHILDREN, PEOPLE WITH PHYSICAL, DEVELOPMENTAL, COGNITIVE DISABILITIES, PEOPLE WITH SENSORY CHALLENGES. PEOPLE ON THE AUTISM SPECTRUM OR SIMPLY SOMEONE WHO GOT HURT AND SPRAINED AN ANKLE OR BROKE A BONE. THE IDEA IS TO IMPROVE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE STRUCTURES BY INTEGRATING COST-EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT MODIFICATIONS TO ACCOMMODATE INDIVIDUAL NEEDS OF OCCUPANTS. I THOUGHT THE BEST WAY TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE DO IS WITH ACTUAL PHOTOS FROM BAY WEST PROJECTS AND HOW WE INCORPORATE ASPECTS OF UNIVERSAL DESIGN INDOOR PROJECTS. HERE'S A PHOTO OF SOME COMMON AREA SPACE AT ONE OF OUR PROJECTS. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE CIRCLE ON THE RIGHT, WHERE WE HAVE BAR-STYLE SEATING, WE ALSO INCLUDE A LOWER LEVEL SO THAT RESIDENTS IN WHEELCHAIRS CAN EASILY JOIN AND BE INCLUDED. IN THE CIRCLE TO THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE TRY TO PLACE MICROWAVES, WARMING DRAWERS, REFRIGERATORS IN THE LOWER CABINETS SO THAT ANYONE CAN USE THEM. HERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE HAVE COMMON AREA SINKS. WE INCLUDE CABINET CUTOUTS SO THAT A WHEELCHAIR CAN EASILY ROLL IN AND USE THE SINK. IN AREAS WHERE WE HAVE COMMUNITY GARDEN-TYPE SPACE, WE PUT THEM IN RAISED BEDS WHERE THEY ARE MORE EASILY ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE, VERSUS ON THE GROUND. AN OUTDOOR BARBECUE AREA, WE TRY TO LEAVE OPENINGS UNDER THE COUNTS SO THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE. WE ALSO PU PUT OUTLETS AT LOWER LEVELS. WE USE CALM COLOR PALETTES AND INCLUDE FLOWERS AND GRAPHS. IT HAS BEEN SHOWN THAT SENSORY ELEMENTS SUCH AS SMELLING FLOWERS AND TOUCHING GRASSES CAN HELP ALL CHILDREN BUT ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH DISABILITIES. IN TOD LOCATIONS WE INCORPORATE TRANSIT SCREENS THAT SYNC WITH TRAINNDUS SCHEDULES . IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO CHECK THE SCHEDULE WITHOUT LEAVING THE COMPLEX. ON THE INTERIOR UNITS WE PUT LIGHT CONTROLS AND OUTLETS WITHIN EASY REACH. WE DON'T DO THIS ON EVERY UNIT BUT WE TRY TO PUT IN ROLL-IN SHOWERS. THIS USUALLY WORKS BEST IN TWO-BEDROOM FLOOR PLANS WHERE THE OTHER BATHROOM HAS A TYPICAL SHOWER/TUB COMBO. YOU CAN SEE WE ALS PUT OUTLETS AND CONTROLS. WE PUT NEST THERMOSTATS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO CONTROL THEIR HEATING AND AIR-CONDITIONING FROM THEIR PHONES . HERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE UTILIZE LOWER CABINETS WITH PULL-OUT DRAWERS. PULL-OUT DRAWERS ARE MUCH MORE ACCESSIBLE TO USE AND ALSO A KEY COMPONENT OF UNIVERSAL DESIGN. WE INCREASED DOOR WIDTHS WITHIN THE UNIT WHEREVER WE CAN. WE UTILIZED STEPLESS ENTRYWAYS,OT OY AT THE FRONT DOOR BUT ALSO ON ANY PATIO OR BALCONY SPACE. AND AGAIN HERE YOU CAN SEE THE INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF ACCESSIBLE OUTLETS AND CONTROLS. THE OTHER THING WE WORKED HARD TO DO IS MAKE EVERY UNIT ADA ADAPTABLE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IN ADDITION TO THE ACCESSIBLE OUTLETS AND LIGHTING CONTROLS STANDARD IN ALL OF OUR UNITS, OUR BATHROOMS AND KITCHENS ARE WIDE ENOUGH FOR WHEELCHAIRS TO BE ACCESSIBLE. ANY WORKSPACE WITHIN A UNIT IS ADA SIZE. THIS IS PRETTY COOL. WE HAVE WORKED WITH OUR CABINET SUPPLIERS SO THAT WE HA REMOVABLE SINK BASES IN ALL OF OUR KITCHENS AND BATHS, SIMILAR TO WHAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER IN THE COMMON AREA SPACE. THIS ALLOWS PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS TO EASILY USE THE SINKS. THIS ALLOWS US TO EASILY ADAPT THE UNIT SHOULD A RESIDENT OR PROSPECTIVE RESIDENT NEED IT. IT ALSO HELPS WITH RETENTION. IF SOMEONE'S LIFE CIRCUMSTANCE CHANGES, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO CHANGE HOMES. AGAIN, WE HAVE TRIED TO SHOW YOU FROM THE BEGINNING HOW WE DESIGN TO THE HIGHEST STANDARDS AND DON'T JUST BUILD A TYPICAL APARTMENT BUILDING. I HOPE THIS GIVES YOU A SENSE ELEMENTS OF A BAY WEST PROJECT AND I HOPE IT CLARIFIES THE EHA QUESTIONS. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. MR. BROUNOFF. >> Brounoff: MR. WOLFF, IN YOUR OPINION HAS THE MARKET FOR BUILDING OFFICE BUILDINGS IMPROVED SUBSTANTIALLY SINCE OUR LAST MEETING TOGETHER? >> NO. >> Brounoff: HOW MANY SQUARE FEET OF FOR SPACE ARE IN THE HOTEL? >> JUST UNDER 70,000 SQUARE FEET. >> Brounoff: HOW ABOUT IN THE OFFICE BUILDING, IF YOU BUILD IT? >> 125,000 SQUARE FEET. >> Brounoff: AT THE LAST MEETING I ASKED YOU IF ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCES WERE SUCH THAT IT WAS NOT FEASIBLE FOR YOU TO NOT BUILD THE OFFICE BUILDING WOULD YOU PROCEED WITH THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AT THAT TIME YOU ANSWERED NO. >> WE CANNOT, PER OUR PD STIPULATIONS . >> Brounoff: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. ON YOUR CONCEPT PLANHASE 1, I THINK YOU ADDRESSED ONE OF MY ORIGINAL CONCERNS, WHICH WAS THE BUFFERING IN PHASE 1. I SEE THE BERMS ON THERE. OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN TONIGHT, BUT IS IT YOUR INTENTION THAT THAT WOULD HAVE VEGETATIVE SCREEN ON THE TOP OF IT? >> YES. WE DESCRIBED THAT WITHIN THE PD STIPULATION. >> Ratliff: FOR SCREENING NOISE, ET CETERA. >> I THINK IT'S 6 FEET TALL, 3 TO 1 WIDTH, THE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING. >> Ratliff: IT LOOKS LIKE A LANDSCAPE BERM, WALKS LIKE A LANDSCAPE BERM. I APPRECIATE IT. IT WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR AND ON THE RECORD. OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: I'M LOOKING FOR OTHER -- I KNEW MR. BRONSKY, YOU HAD TO HAVE A QUESTION. AT LEAST ONE. >> Bronsky: YEAH. WELL, FIRST I WANT TO SAY I REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU PRESENTED FORWARD AS IT RELATES TO UNIVERSAL DESIGN. I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT DOES PROVIDE SOMETHING OF VERY SIGNIFICANT VALUE TO CONSIDER, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE CONSIDER USING THE POWERFUL TOOL OF FINDINGS TO JUSTIFY THINGS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY FIT PERFECTLY WITHIN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION EARLIER TODAY WITH STAFF AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD HELP ME A LITTLE BIT UNDERSTAND TRACT 2. WHAT KIND OF A HOTEL CAN I EXPECT TO SEE THERE? HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT PUTTI THERE ASAR AS A HOTEL? >> YEAH, IT'S LIKELY TO BE KIND OF LIKE A MID-LEVEL HOTEL. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A CONVENTION CENTER-STYLE HOTEL. IT'S MORE OF A SUITE. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY, ONCE THE SILVER LINE COMES IN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE AIRPORT. YOU'LL HAVE CITY LINE, WHICH HAS ALL THAT OFFICE SPACE. HOPEFULLY OUR OFFICE SPACE AS WELL. WE SEE IT MORE AS A BUSINESS-STYLE HOTEL. >> Bronsky: SECOND QUESTION IS STILL ON TRACT 2. SO IN THE FAR EAST IS THE HOTEL. IN THE MIDDLE IS PARKING. AN THEN THERE'S KIND OF NOTHING IN THE FAR WEST. I REALIZE THAT'S FAIRLY NARROW. WHAT DO YOU ENVISION -- IS THAT JUST GOING TO BE VACANT LAND OR ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT SOMEHOW? >> WE ACTUALLY DON'T OWN THE FAR LEFT PORTION. SO THE ACTUAL PROPERTY LINE WITHIN THAT -- WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT YOU WOULD THINK IT'S ALL ONE PARCEL, BUT OUR PARCEL IS WITHIN A CERTAIN AREA WITHIN THE STREET BOUNDARIES, IF YOU WILL. THERE'S ALSO A BIG WATER EASEMENT GOING ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THERE. YOU HAVE PROBABLY SEEN PIPES OUT ON THE SITE SINCE THEN. THE CITY OR THE COUNTY IS REPLACING A LOT OF WATER PIPES. WE DON'T ACTUALLY OWN THAT PORTION OF IT AND SO CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. IF WE WOULD, IT WOULD HAVE CREATED A MUCH EASIER SITE TO DESIGN, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE MORE SPACE. >> Bronsky: YEAH. ON THE MAP THAT I WAS LOOKING AT, IT GOES ALMOST ALL THE WAY TO -- >> Chair Downs: SERVICE ROAD. >> Bronsky: TO THE SERVICE ROAD THERE ON THE CONCEPT MAP. >> IT DOESN'T ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE. SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE SE. >> Bronsky: ON THE SOUTH SIDE I SEE THAT BUT AS FAR AS THE NORTHWEST SIDE, IT LOOKS LIKE, AT LEAST. IS THAT CORRECT? STAFF? >> THERE'S SOME MICE IN HERE SOMEWHERE. >> Chair Downs: CRICKETS. >> IF YOU COULD CHANGE THE SLIDES BACK, YOU CAN SEE THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE PROPERTY. I THINK, MR. WOLFF, YOU MAY BE TALKING ABOUT THE NORTHERN PORTION WHICH IS UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR ZONING. I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION. >> I WAS REFERRING TO THAT SOUTHERN PORTION, YEAH. >> YEAH. SO THE PORTION IN YELLOW IS YOUR PROPERTY, CORRECT? >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> I THINK HE'S ASKING ABOUT THAT NARROWER PORTION. >> Bronsky: THE TOP NORTHERN PART. IT KIND OF LOOKS EMPTY ON THE MAP. >> IT BECOMES SO NARROW THAT IT CAN'T BE UTILIZED FROM A PARKING OR BUILDING PERSPECTIVE, SO IT WOULD BE LANDSCAPED. YEAH. >> Bronsky: AND A QUESTION THAT I HAD ASKED STAFF EARLIER. HOW DOES YOUR COMPANY LOOK AT -- ESPECIALLY OLDER TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WHEN I LOOKED AT THE MAP, I SPENT 3.5 HOURS ON THE PROPERTY. SOME OF THOSE TREES DON'T LOOK GREAT BUT A LOT OF THOSE LOOK VERY NICE. I'M HOPEFUL IF IT'S YOUR INTENTION TO DO AS GREAT OF A JOB AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE ABLE TO HOLD ON TO A LOT OF THAT. HOW DOES YOUR COMPANY HANDLE KI OF SITUATION?EES AND THAT >> YEP. WE'LL DO A TREE STUDY ON ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES, WHICH WE'LL SUBMIT TO STAFF. ANYWHERE WHERE WE CAN KEEP TREES, WE WILL. WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS PROPERTY IS WE HAVE A HUGE LANDSCAPE SETBACK ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. I THINK IT'S 30 FEET ALONG PLANO PARKWAY. I THINK 20 FEET ALONG EXECUTIVE DRIVE. AND THE MAJORITY OF THE TREES ON SITE TODAY ARE LOCATED ON THE STREET EDGES. BUT TO ANSWEROUR QUEION, WE'LL DO A TREE SURVEY, LOOK AT THE HEALTH OF THE TREES, HAVE AN ARBORIST COME OUT AND DETERMINE WHAT WE CAN KEEP. OBVIOUSLY, THE MORE MATURE& TREES ARE ALWAYS BETTERTE FROM A PURE DESIGN PERSPECTIVE. AND IT'S ALSO CHEAPER. IT'S ECONOMICALLY BETTER FOR US MANY TIMES. SO WE'LL KEEP AS MANY AS WE CAN AFTER DOING THAT ARBORIST STUDY. >> Bronsky: ALONG EXECUTIVE, SOUTH OF WHERE THE BERM WOULD GO, I'M GUESSING ESPECIALLY DURING PHASE 1, YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE ALL THOSE TREES THERE RIGHT? BECAUSE WHEN WAS VISITING WITH AURORA 190 TODAY, IT WAS INTERESTING HOW MUCH OF THEIR PROPERTY WAS SOUTH AND CLOSER TO THE GEORGE BUSH THAN WHERE YOUR BERM WOULD GO EVEN BEYOND THOSE TREES. THOSE TREES WOULD NOT CHANGE -- >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> Bronsky: AND PROBABLY WOULD WORK TO MAINTAIN THOSE. >> WHERE THE BERM IS AND GRADING WE'LL HAVE TO DO TO PUSH THE DIRT UP TO CREATE THAT BERM, THOSE LOCATIONS WILL CHANGE, BUT ANYTHING SOUTH OF THAT WE KEEP AND WE PROBABLY HYDROSEED TO GRASS AS WELLS PUTNG SOME PATHWAYS SO OUR RESIDENTS HAVE ACCESS DOWN TO CITY LINE. >> Bronsky: THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER OLLEY. >> Olley: MORE OF A COMMENT THAN A QUESTION. APPRECIATE THE WORK, GIVEN THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU RECEIVED THE LAST TIME. I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT. MERV8 IS PROBABLY AS GOOD AS I COULD HOPE FOR, WITHOUT GOING INTO HOSPITAL-GRADE AIR. AND JUST MORE THAN ANYTHING, HOPEFULLY THIS FEELS LIKE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A BACK AND FORTH, PUSH AND PULL, MANAGING INTENTIONS BETWEEN CITY AND DEVELOPERS. JUST WANTED TO SAY I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME. >> THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER LISLE. >> Lisle: THE PLAZA GREEN HAS BEEN A BIG CONVERSATION IN THE PAST PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT TONIGHT. HAS IT CHANGED AT ALL? >> NO. >> Lisle: THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: THAT WAS EASY. ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? >> NO, WE DO NOT. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONFINE DISCUSSION TO THE COMMISSION. I WANT TO ADD JUST ONE THING. OBVIOUSLY LAST TIME I VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT. THERE WERE SOME CHALLENGES AND I THINK THE PUSHBACK IS BENEFICIAL IN WHAT WE'RE LITTLE BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD OTHERWISE. BUT THE UNIVERSAL DESIGN PIECE WOW. THANK YOU. VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO WILL BE CITIZENS OF PLANO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER OLLEY, YOU'RE FIRST. >> Olley: I ECHO AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGE, GIVEN THAT I THINK BASED ON OUR PAST CONVERSATIONS, WE DON'T HAVE PARTICULA AIR MITIGATION, FRESH HOLES, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE WITH NOISE, SO WE DON'T HAVE A TARGET FOR DEVELOPERS TO AIM FOR. SO THEM TAKING IT UPON THEMSELVES TO MEET US SOMEWHERE IS APPRECIATED. THE UNIVERSAL DESIGN PIECE OBVIOUSLY SPEAKS TO ME. I HAVE TWO KIDS ON THE AUTISM SPECTRUM SO WHEN I THINK PLANO 2050, I THINK OF MY CHILD IN 30 YEARS AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD ENGRAIN INTO DEVELOPERS TO THINK THAT FAR AHEAD, I APPRECIATE IT. I VOTED AGAINST THE LAST TIME, PRIMARILY DUE TO THE POLLUTION CONCERNS. THEY HAVE COME CLOSE ENOUGH FOR ME. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. LET'S SEE WHO'S NEXT. COMMISSIONER CARY. >> Cary: YEAH. AS SOME OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, THIS COMPANY'S WORKING HARD ON THIS AND THERE'S A LOT OF POSITIVE THINGS HERE. I GUESS FOR ME I WISH IT WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE. BUT I HAVE A LOT OF CHALLENGES FOR THIS STILL, AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THEM. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THIS CITY'S ENCOUNTERING RIGHT NOW IS OUR RETAIL IS OVERBUILT. YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE AS THIS COMMISSION GOES FORWARD. AND AS I LOOK AT THE APARTMENTS IN THE AREA, WE'VE GOT 2638 UNITS COMING AT US PLUS ANOTHER SEVERAL HUNDRED AT J PLACE AND THERE ARE OTHERS ON THE HORIZON THAT ARE LIKELY TO GET APPROVED. ONE O MY CONRNS IS WILL WE DO THE SAME THING WITH MULTIFAMILY HERE THAT WE DID IN THE PAST WITH RETAIL? SO I HAVE THAT CONCERN. THE SECOND CONCERN I HAVE IS I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS OFFICE SPACE IS GOING TO GET BUILT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO -- IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE RECENT ARTICLES IN THE NEWSPAPER AND OTHER PLACES, OFFICE SPACE IS CHALLENGED. I WONDER IF ULTIMATELY THE OFFICE SPACE DOES GET BUILT OR THEY COME BACK AND SAY, GOSH, WE CAN'T DO IT. LET'S BUILD THE REST OF THE APARTMENTS. I BELIEVE THAT'S LIKELY. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, I HAV CONCERNS ABOUT IT NOT ALIGNING WITH RGM5A AND 5B. I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THOSE AMONG OTHERS. BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS CAPTURED IN WHAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SAYS. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH IT. AND THAT IS THAT THE ZONING SHOULD REMAINED UNCHANGED BECAUSE THEY THINK THERE COULD BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE BETTER ALIGNED WITH THE LONG-TERM VISION OF THE COMMUNITY. AND THE REASON I BELIEVE THAT IS BECAUSE JUST RECENTLY IN THE SUNDAY NEWSPAPER I SAW AN ARTICLE ABOUT ALL THE COMPANIES THAT ARE TARGETING NORTH TEXAS FORORPORATE HEADARTERS. I DON'T THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER PIECES OF PROPERTY IN PLANO THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT AS WELL AS THIS. AND WE JUST SAW THIS HAPPEN WITH EDS UP THERE. THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT 30,000 MORE JOBS. I PERSONALLY THINK FOR THE WELL-BEING OF PLANO, IF IN FACT -- AND MAYBE WE WAIT. I HAVE HEARD ALL THE ARGUMENTS THAT, GOSH, IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE VACANT FOR A LONG TIME. IT REALLY HASN'T BEEN THAT LONG, IN MY OPINION, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 2050 PLAN AND BEYOND. I THINK THERE'S ULTIMATELY POTENTIALLY A BETTER USE FOR THIS THAT WILL BE BETTER FOR OUR CITY WITH MORE JOBS. FOR THOSE REASONS, AS GOOD AS ALL THE THINGS THESE GUYS HAVE DONE -- I WISH THIS WERE SOMEWHERE ELSE. BUT FOR ME THE ULTIMATE LAND USE IS THE ISSUE FOR ME. IT'S GOING TO BE CHALLENGING. I STILL DON'T BELIEVE I CAN SUPPORT THIS. THAT'S MY OPINION. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BROUNOFF. >> Brounoff: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. IN SEEING WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I AM NOT REFLEXIVELY OR FUNDAMENTALLY OPPOSED TO APARTMENTS. THERE IS A PLACE FOR APARTMENTS. IOTED FOR SEVERAL CAS DURING MY TIME HERE ON THE COMMISSION THAT INVOLVED APARTMENT CONSTRUCTION SUCH AS J PLACE, SUCH AS EDS AT OUR LAST MEETING AND SO FORTH. MY THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS CASE INVOLVE CONSIDERATIONS SPECIFIC TO THIS SITE. I HAVE TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CARY REGARDING THE NON-CONFORMITY WITH RGM 5A, 5B. I NOTED THAT THE STAFF REPORT EMPHASIZED THE CITY'S LAND USE POLICIES AS TO ENCOURAGING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN WELL-INTEGRATED AND THOUGHTFUL PEDESTRIAN-ORIENTED NEIGHBORHOODS. OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, DEFINING THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY STATES THAT EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR IS EXPECTED TO INCLUDE A MIX OF RETAIL SERVICE,FFICE, RESTAURANT MEDICAL HOTEL AND TECHNOLOGICALLY-BASED USES. AN OFFICE BUILDING IS PROPOSED BUT THREE TIMES NOW THE APPLICANT HAS TOLD US THAT THE MARKET FOR OFFICE SPACE CONSTRUCTION IS VERY WEAK. BACK IN MARCH HE SPECIFICALLY SAID BANKS ARE NOT AGREEING TO FINANCE THE CONSTRUCTION OF OFFICE SPACE, ESPECIALLY IN THIS PART OF TOWN. BACK ON MAY 1 HE WENT THROUGH A LIST OF NEARBY OFFICE PROPERTIES WITH HIGH VACANCY RATES, SINCE THE COVID PANDEMIC. PEOPLE'S WORK HABITS HAVE CHANGED FUNDAMENTALLY. THEY ARE NOW WORKING MORE AT HOME AND LESS OUT OF OFFICES. SO I SHARE COMMISSIONER CARY'S DOUBTS AS TO WHETHER IT WILL BE FEASIBLE OR REALISTIC TO LOOK FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS OFFICE BUILDING ANY TIME SOON. AND THE COMMISSION HAS SAID TWICE IN TWO BUILDINGS IF HE CAN'T PHASE 2 APARTMENTS, WHAT WE DO GET IS PHASE 1 APARTMENTS AND THE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, AND THAT'S IT. IN TERMS OF A WELL-INTEGRATED AND THOUGHTFUL PEDESTRIAN-ORIENTED NEIGHBORHOOD, I DON'T SEE IT HERE. WE'RE NOT GETTING RETAIL. WE'RE NOT GETTING SERVICE USES. WE'RE NOT GETTING RESTAURANTS, MEDICAL OR TECHNOLOGICALLY-BASED USES. THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD CREATE AN INTEGRATED WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHETHER IT'S THE STARBUCKS ON THE CORNER OR A GROCERY STORE NEARBY OR TAILOR SHOP, DRYCLEANER OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD TEND TO MAKE A COMMUNITY. WITH RESPECT TO THE LE-FAMILY ATE STAFF'S COMMENTS POINT OUT A CONCEPT CALLED PLACEMAKING. AND I HAVE THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT PLACEMAKING IS OPEN -- IT'S IN THE PACKET ON PAGE 67. PLACEMAKING INVOLVES THE DEVELOPMENT OF PLACES DESIGNED CONSTRUCTED AND MAINTAINED TO STIMULATE THE SENSES, ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY USE, AND PROMOTE CIVIC AND PERSONAL PRIDE. BESIDES ALLOWING PEOPLE TO PERFORM ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS, PLA, ENTERTAINING AND EDUCATIONAL. SUCCESS IN PLACEMAKING LIES IN CONFIGURING SPACES AND STRUCTURES AND THE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THEM IN A WAY THAT FACILITATES AND ENCOURAGES HUMAN ACTIVITY AND INTERACTION WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF COMMUNITY. I DON'T SEE A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR INTERACTION HERE BETWEEN THE APARTMENTS AND THE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED. I DON'T SEE THE POTENTIAL FOR A LOT OF INTERACTION BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE OFFICE BUILDING. THE ONLY POTENTIAL INTERACTION I SEE HERE IS IF THE OFFICE BUILDING IS BUILT, THE MOTEL MIGHT INTERACT WITH THE OFFICE BUILDING FOR BUSINESS TRAVEL RELATED TO THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE WITHIN THE OFFICE BUILDING. BUT WITH NO OFFICE BUILDING, EVEN THAT DOESN'T EXIST. YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT DESIGN OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED MIGHT BE A STEP TOWARD CREATING PLACEMAKING. FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS WERE CONSTRUCTED AROUND A CENTRAL COMMON OPEN SPACE AREA TO WHICH THEY ALL HAD DIRECT ACCESS, COULD BE A PLACE WRE PEOPLE COULD IERACT WITH EACH OTHER, THAT MIGHT BE A FORM OF, YOU KNOW, ONE STEP TOWARDS PLACEMAKING. FUNDAMENTALLY WHAT I SEE HERE IS A BUNCH OF PARTS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY FIT TOGETHER, THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO EACH OTHER, AND DON'T CREATE A COMMUNITY. THE STAFF POINTED OUT THAT THIS IS A PRIME LOCATION NEXT TO HIGHWAYS. THAT WOULD BE A PRIME LOCATION FOR A FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND I WOULD JUST AS SOON WAIT FOR A COMMERCIAL ALICATI. EVEN FROM THIS APPLICANT TO COME ALONG THAT WE COULD CONSIDER FAVORABLY. FURTHERMORE, THE OPEN SPACE IS NOT SCREENED FOR NOISE. THE MEASURED NOISE LEVELS ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED RESIDENTS THAT FACE THE OPEN SPACE ON THE NORTH AND ON THE EAST SIDE ARE AS HIGH AS 73.5 DECIBELS AND THEREFORE WE WOULD HAVE TO ASSUME THAT THE OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS CLOSER TO THE HIGHWAY, WOULD BE WITHIN THE EHA-1 NSE AREA ANYWAY. EVEN IF THE OFFICE BUILDING WERE BUILT, IT WOULD NOT HAVE A NOISE SCREENING EFFECT BECAUSE IT'S NOT TALL ENOUGH. THE BULK OF THE NOISE IS COMING FROM THE ELEVATED HIGHWAY. THE GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE. THE TEMPORARY BERMS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WOULD SCREEN WHAT MINIMAL NOISE WOULD BE EMANATING FROM THE LIGHTLY-TRAVELED SERVICE ROAD BELOW THE HIGHWAY. IT WOULD DO NOTHING TO MITIGATE THE NOISE COMING FROM THE ELEVATED HIGHWAY, BECAUSE IT'S ONLY, WHAT, 6 OR 7 FEET TALL. SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE WRONG PROJECT FOR THIS LOCATION. I'D LIKE TO SEE A COMMERCIAL PROJECT COME ALONG. THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER RATLIFF. >> Ratliff: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. I WAS, I GUESS, THE ONE THAT MISSED THE LAST MEETING. THE LAST VOTE. I'VE LOOKED AT THIS I GUESS A LITTLE MORE HOLISTICALLY THAN IF I TAKE THE GOOGLE AREA AND ZOOM OUT, I CONSIDER THIS TO BE KIND OF THE HOLE OF THE DOUGHNUT, WHAT'S OVER THERE TODAY. WHAT'S OVER THERE TODAY IS MULTIFAMILY EAST OF IT. MULTIFAMILY SOUTH OF IT AT CITY PLACE. A PRETTY GOOD MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT SOUTH OF IT IS CITY PLACE AND I REALIZE THAT'S OVER THE CITY LIMIT LINE. PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE CITY LIMIT LINE IS. THEY'RE WALKING TO THE DART STATION. WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF A DART STATION AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. THIS IS A TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT INALKI DISTANCE OF A DART STATION WITH TWO LINES. NOT ONLY IS IT WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF TWO DART STATIONS, IT'S WALKING DISTANCE TO CITY LINE. I LIVE IN THIS AREA. WE PROBABLY EAT AND GO DOWN TO CITY LINE MORE THAN I CARE TO ADMIT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS -- I DON'T WANT TO COMPARE IT TO LEGACY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S SEPARATED BY A FREEWAY TOO. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF CROSS& TRAFFIC NORTH AND SOUTH ACROSS THAT FREEWAY. I THINK WE COULD IMPROVE THE SIDEWALKS CONNECTING THOSE. IHINK THERE IS SOME PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED THERE TO ENCOURAGE THAT WALKING. BUT WHEN I LOOK AT RGM 5A AND B, I'M LOOKING BEYOND THE YELLOW LINE THAT WE'RE SEEING ON THIS MAP. I'M LOOKING ANOTHER HALF MILE AROUND. BECAUSE IT IS A MIXED-USE AREA. IT IS VERY DEFINITELY BEING BUILT OUT AS A MIXED-USE AREA. AND THE CITY LINE -- PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN CITY LINE, IT'S BUSY DOWN THERE. IT COULD BE BUSIER BUT TO BE BUSIER THEY'RE GOING TO NEED MORE PEOPLE THAT WIL GO DOWN ERE AND FREQUENT THOSE BUSINESSES FOR THOSE TO BE SUCCESSFUL. SO, WITH THAT SAID, ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS WAS NOISE. I ADDRESSED MY SHORT-TERM CONCERN. I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT IT LONG TERM, ONCE THE BUILDINGS ARE BUILT. I THINK IT WILL BE ADEQUATELY SCREENED FROM THE NOISE. I DO APPRECIATE THE UNIVERSAL DESIGN. I HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER WITH DISABILITIES AND THOSE ARE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES FOR US. AND SO I DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT TO THAT AND I'LL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANTN OUR FAMILY. WITH ALL THAT SAID, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS. I LIKE IT. I THINK IT FITS HERE. I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF WE HELD OUT TEN MORE YEARS, ARE WE STEPPING OVER A REALLY GREAT PROJECT TO GET TO PERFECT IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS? I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT THAT WE HAVE NO REASON NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT IN LIEU OF WAITING FOR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE PERFECT. I DON'T SEE WAITING HELPS US. SO, WITH THAT SAID, I'MN FAVOR. >> Chair Downs: I DON'T SEE ANY MORE NOTES UP. OH, COMMISSIONER BRONSKY. BEFORE YOU GO, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS, THOUGH. ONE IS BY SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET OFFICE SPACE THERE, I STRUGGLE WITH THAT BECAUSE IT'S IN THE DEVELOPER'S BEST INTEREST TO FIND A TENANT. WHO IS TO SAY WE DON'T FIND A MID-SIZE CORPORATION WHO WANTS 125,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING. IT COULD BE ANY OF THOSE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A GIANT CORPORATION MOVING INTO THIS LOCATION. AS TO THE MIXED-USE PIECE, I AGREE FROM THE MOMENT I SAW THIS, I DIDN'T SEE THIS AS A PRIZE SITE. I SAW IT AS THIS CORNER. WHAT DO WE HAVE THERE ALREADY AND WHAT CAN WE BRING IN TO HELP MAYBE JUMPSTART SOME OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT, IMPROVE THE RETAIL THAT EXISTS AROUND IT. AND WITH WHAT'S GOING ON AT COLLIN CREEK MALL AND THE DISCUSSIONSHERE AROUND SOME LOCAL AREA RAPID TRANSIT, A CIRCLE OR LOOP BETWEEN DOWNTOWN PLANO, COLLIN CREEK MALL, PLANO PARKWAY, AVENUE K, AND CENTRAL PLANO -- THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL, AT LEAST, IS A TRANSPORTATION LOOP FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA. WELL, THIS WOULD BE RIGHT ON THAT ROUTE. SO ANYONE LIVING HERE CAN EASILY AND QUICKLY GET TO DOWNTOWN PLANO. THEY CAN WALK TO CITY LINE. THEY CAN GET OVER TO COLLIN SO I DON'T SEE THEM BOUND IN THIS AREA. I'M HOPEFUL AND CONFIDENT THAT WITH THE AGREEMENT THAT THE DEVELOPER MADE TO TIE THE PHASE TWO -- OR THE SECOND RESIDENTIAL SECTIONS TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RETAIL OR OFFICE SPACE -- I'M HOPEFUL AND CONFIDENT THAT THAT'S GOING TO TURN OVER QUICKER THAN WE THINK. CERTAINLY THE PEOPLE LIVING HERE, IT WILL BE EASY FOR THEM TO FIND THEIR WAY OVER TO COLLIN CREEK MALL BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN PROMISED AT THAT LOCATION IN TERMS OF MOVIE THEATERS, AND RESTAURANTS, AND SO ANYWAY. ELSE. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT. I THINK WE HELP REMOVE THE ISOLATION OF THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT BEHIND IT BY PUTTING THIS IN. AND THAT LITTLE EXTRA DENSITY HERE WILL HELP WHATEVER GOES IN AROUND THIS BE MORE SUCCESSFUL. I THINK IT'S INTERESTING WHEN WE HAVE A PROJECT AND WE GET NEIGHBORS NEARBY THAT ARE OPPOSED TO IT, WE'RE MORE OPPOSED TO IT. IF WE GET NEIGHBORS NEARBY THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF IT THEN WE'RE MORE IN FAVOR OF IT. IN THIS CASE, ALL THE NEARBY NEIGHBORS ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS AND SEE IT AS A WAY TO IMPROVE THEIR OWN BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES. WE SHOULD BE TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION TOO. SO, THAT'S THE CORE OF MY SUPPORT FOR THIS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE IS I THINK IT IMPROVES THE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERYTHING ON THIS CORNER. AND WILL HOPEFULLY SPUR IMPROVEMENTS IN THE SURROUNDING BUILDINGS THAT WILL HELP THIS ENTIRE AREA IMPROVE. SO, COMMISSIONER BRONSKY. >> Bronsky: OKAY. OH, MY GOODNESS. SO I'VE GOT A LOT TO SAY. >> Chair Downs: OKAY. >> Bronsky: SO NUMBER 1, WHEN I CONSIDER RGM5, ESPECIALLY A AND B, IT'S NICE TO SAY WE COULD LOOK BEYOND THE YELLOW. BUT RGM5B SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF EMPPLANOFROM DO-OVERS, FROM DEVG ONE THING PARTIALLY AND THEN COMING BACK LATER AND SAY, YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T REALLY DEVELOP AS SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID. WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE OFFICE, AND SO WE NEED PERMISSION TO DO AWAY WITH THE PROMISE WE MADE OF WHAT'S REQUIRED TO DO THAT SECOND SET OF MULTIFAMILY AND WE GO AHEAD AND DO IT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER CARY BROUGHT OUT IS ANOTHER THING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. I WAS RECENTLYAVING SOM CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE IN PLANO ABOUT THE CARE BALANCEFULE THAT IT TAKES TO NOT END UP WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH RETAIL. YOU KNOW, I THINK MOST PEOPLE IN PLANO WOULD AGREE THAT WE'RE OVER-RETAILED. AND SO WHERE DO WE SIT AS A CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT MAKES PLANO SO SPECIAL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO OVERLOOK MOVING TO SOMETHING IN FRISCO OR MCKINNEY TO STAY IN PLANO A THATS WHERE WE ARE OVER-HOUSED, OR WE HAVE TOO MUCH OF SOMETHING AS WE SIT TODAY WITH MULTIFAMILY. AND SO I CAN CLEARLY HEAR WHAT MR. CARY AS WELL AS MR. BROUNOFE TALKING ABOUT. FOR THE CITY STAFF, FOR THE WALKABILITY PIECE, ARE THE ANY PLANS OR POTENTIALS FOR TRAFFIC LIGHTS AT EXECUTIVE OR TAYLOR, I THINK IT IS, TO MAKE THAT MORE WALKABLE TO THE REST OF THE CONNECTING AREAS? >> I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY -- THERE'S NO TRAFFIC LIGHTS. THAT WOULD BE BASED UPON THE VEHICLE TRIPS. THIS IS ME GETTING OUT OF MY DEPTH. I THINK THE APPLICANT, AT ONE TIME WE DID TALK ABOUT SOME PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS THERE FOR THE DEVELOPMENTS AS THEY CONNECT. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D PROBABLY EXOREITH THEM IN THE FUTURE. >> Bronsky: OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT WHEN I LOOK AT THE DASHBOARDS, AND I BELIEVE THE DASHBOARDS WERE SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY IN PLANO WAS COUNTING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO GET RIGHT. WHEN I LOOK AT THE DASHBOARDS, AND I LOOK AT THE LAND USE, I LOOK AT THE HOUSING MIX. I LOOK AT THE DENSITY. AND I LOOK AT THE BUILDING HEIGHTS. THIS PROPERTY CHECKS ALL THOSE BOXES. ADDITIONALLY, AS I SPENT TIME ON THE PROPERTY TODAY, AND VISITING WITH AURORA 190, MY THOUGHTS ON THIS PROPERTY HAS CHANGED. AND NOT JUST AS IT RELATES TO EHA, BUT WHEN WE ESTABLISHED THE FINDINGS FORM IN PLANO, ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THE FINDINGS FORM WASN'T THAT IT WAS A PUNISHMENT, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY A SURGEON'S TOOL FOR P&Z AS WELL AS COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THINGS AND SAY, "THIS MAY NOT LINE UP WITH 100% OF WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THOUGHT, BUT IT ACTUALLY GIVES US SOME THINGS THAT WE DN'T THINK ABOUT." AND FRANKLY, UNIVERSAL DESIGN WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I THINK WE DIDN'T GET ENOUGH OF. AND TO HEAR WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS TALKING ABOUT, AND TRUTHFULLY, I HOPE THAT A DEVELOPMENT OF THIS KIND RAISES OUR EXPECTATION AS A CITY OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR IN UNIVERSAL DESIGN GOING FORWARD, MATTER WHAT IT IS.FAMILY -- NO THIS TO ME LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T THINK OF IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT WAS OUT OF WHERE WE COULD HAVE BEEN. SO, AS I WEIGH ALL OF THIS, YEAH. SO I AM EXCIT TO SAY THAT I'M WILLING TO SIGN MY NAME ON THE BOTTOM LINE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY ARE SOMETHING SPECIAL AND CREATING A LEVEL OF FUTURE EXPECTATION THAT ALTHOUGH DOESN'T MEET 100% OF THE COMP PLAN, BRING US US SOMETHING OF HIGH ENOUGH VALUE THAT IS WORTHY OF ME SIGNING MY NAME TO A FINDINGS FORM AND SUPPORTING THIS. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. MR. OLLEY. >> Olley: JUST A COUPLE OF EXTRA COMMENTS. AND I THINK EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN STATED IS WELL-STATED AND REASONED. AND I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT. I'M NOT GOING TO BE OBLIVIOUS ENOUGH TO THINK THAT IN 2050, THE ZONING COMMISSION HERE WILL GO, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING, TH OVERBLT MULTIFAMILY, PROBABLY. RIGHT. [ LAUGHING ] I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE NO IDEA, RIGHT. BUT I THINK ONE THING WE ARE CALLED TO DO -- I SPEAK FOR MYSELF, THAT I AM CALLED TO DO -- IS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE INFORMATION I KNOW, WHAT HAS CHANGED. COVID HAS DRAMATICALLY CHANGED THE VERY NATURE OF CITIES, RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT. YOU CAN QUOTE ME ON THIS. THE DAYS OF THE LEGAC CAMPUSES, BIG CORPORATE, ARE GONE, AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS. SOMETHING ELSE MIGHT FORCE US BACK INTO -- THE ANTI-COVID, MAYBE. BUT GIVEN ALL OF THE INFORMATION AND WHAT WE ARE CALLED TO DO TO STEWARD PLANO INTO WHAT IT WILL BE, A MORE MATURE CITY, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, TO STEWARD PLANO INTO PROVIDE FANNING ORINE RESIDENTS OF A MORE MATURE CITY, DOES THIS WORK. AND IT CROSSES THAT THRESHOLD FOR ME. AND IT'S WITH THAT IN MIND, IF YOU ALLOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE WE APPROVE ZONING CASE 2022-009 AND THE ADJOINING CONCEPT PLAN, AGENDA ITEM 1B. >> Chair Downs: WE'LL DO IT AS SEPARATE MOTIONS. WE HAVE A MOTION ON ITEM 1A. >> BEING THAT I'LL GET TO SIGN MY FIRST FINDINGS FORM, I WANT TO BE THE ONE WHO SECONDS THIS. >> Chair Downs: ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER OLLEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKY TO APPROVE ITEM 1A. BEFORE YOU VOTE, ANY OTHER COMMENT QUESTION ANYONE? OKAY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. YOU HAD NOTHING ELSE TO SAY, I GUESS. OKAY. SO, PLEASE VOTE. A VOTE YES IS TO APPROVE ITEM 1A. AND THAT ITEM CARRIES 6-2. MR. BRONSKY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION FOR ITEM 1B? >> Bronsky: I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM AS SUBMITTED. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. >> I SECOND. >> Chair Downs: SO WE HAVE -- >> THAT'S SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF ITEM A? >> Bronsky: EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT TO SAY. >> Chair Downs: VERY GOOD. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKY TO APPROVE ITEM 1B SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CASE, WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TONG. PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT ITEM ALSO CARRIES 6-2. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. WOLFE. HA A GOOD EVENING. >> CAN WE TAKE A SHORT RECESS? >> Chair Downs: YEAH, WE'VE GOT TO DO FINDINGS, ANYWAY. SO THAT'S GOING TO TAKE US ABOUT TEN MINUTES OR SO, FOLKS. SO IF YOU NEED TO MAKE A QUICK RUN ANYWAY, AND THEN YOU CAN DO THAT WHEN YOU GET BACK. SO, IF YOU NEED A RESTROOM BREAK, NOW'S A GOOD TIME FOR YOU TOO. ♪ >> Chair Downs: SORRY. AS LONG AS WE WERE DOING BUSINESS, WE CAN'T RECESS. BUT NOW IT'S EATING COOKIES AND CHATTING SO. [ LAUGHING ] ♪ >> Chair Downs: RECONVENE INTO OUR MEETING AT 8:25 AND MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 2, PLEASE. >> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, PUBLIC HEARING, ZONING CASE 2023-009. REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR TATTOOING AND PERMANENT COSMETICS ON ONE LOT ON 0.1 acre located on the east side of Parker Road, 195 feet south of Premier Drive. Zoned Corridor Commercial. Petitioner: Sheng Holdings, LLC (Legislative consideration). >> THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR TAOOIN THSUBJT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL WITH SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 371 FOR AUTOMOTIVE LEASING AND RENTING. THE ADJACENT SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL AND DEVELOPED WITH RETAIL, SHOPPING CENTER, AND RESTAURANT USES. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED ON THIS SLIDE -- IN YELLOW. THIS SLIDE HAS THE ZONING EXHIBIT. IN SECON 1 15.1500, TATTOOING, ARTICLE 15, SPECIFIC REGULATIONS, STATES THAT AN S.U.P. MAY BE GRANTED IN CC ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENT IS MET -- THE FACILITY OFFERING THESE SERVICES SHALL BE PROHIBITED WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF ANY RELIGIOUS FACILITY, RESIDENTIALLY ZONED DISTRICT, PUBLIC OR PAROCHIAL SCHOOL. THERE ARE TWO RESIDENTIALLY ZONED DISTRICTS WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF THE FRONT DOOR. THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST OF PREMIER DRIVE IS ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 74, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE SEVEN, TWO-FAMILY DUPLEX, AND IS LOCATED 617 FEET NORTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THUNDER BIRD ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE WEST SIDE OF THUNDTHUNDERBIRD LANE. THIS 1,000 OF FOOT DISTANCE REQUIREMENT MAY BE REDUCED TO 300 FEET IN THE CITY COUNCIL FINDS THAT ISSUANCE OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WOULD NOT BE DETRIMENTAL OR INJURIOUS TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, OR GENERAL WELFARE OR OTHERWISE OFFENSIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. STAFF HAS LOOKED AT THIS. THERE ARE EXISTING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, A SECONDARY THOROUGHFARE, AND SCREENING WALL SEPARATING THE PROPOSED S.U.P. LEASE SPACE AND THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. THE PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS CREATE BUFFERS AND ALLOW FOR SEPARATION FROM THE PROPOSED USE. THIS PROPERTY IS THE IN THE EXPRESSWAY CORRIDOR. STAFF FINDS THE USE CONSISTENT WITH THE CATEGORIES. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS PART OF A LARGER SHOPPING CENTER SITE AND IS CLASSIFIED AS RETAIL TYPE DEFINED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST FOR TATTOOING AND PERMANENT COSMETICS WOULD RESULT IN NO CHANGE IN THE LAND USE OR EMPLOYMENT MIX, WHICH IS ALREADY WITHIN THE RECOMMENDED RANGE OF THESE CATEGORIES. ON THIS SLIDE IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY SUMMARY. THIS SITE IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND NEUTRAL TO THE OTHER MAPS AND POLICIES. STAFF DID N RECEIVE ANY LETTERS WITHIN THE 200-FOOT NOTIFICATION BUFFER. AND STAFF RECEIVED 31 UNIQUE RESPONSES FROM THE MAP WITH 21 IN SUPPORT, 0 NEUTRAL AND 2 OPPOSED. 14 DUPLICATE RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED ALONG WITH 37 RESPONSES FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY OF PLANO FOR A TOTAL OF 45 RESPONSES. STAFF RECOMMENDS ZC2023-009 FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE CIT COUNCIL REDUCG THE 1,000-FOOT DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS TO A 617-FOOT REQUIREMENT IF IT IS DETERMINED THE ISSUANCE OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WOULD NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, OR GENERAL WELFARE OR OTHERWISE OFFENSIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER RATLIFF, YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF? >> Ratliff: I DO. CAN YOU PUT BACK UP YOUR MAP WITH THE DISTANCE MEASUREMENTS, PLEASE? JUST A PROCEDURAL QUESTION. DO WE ALWAYS MEASURE IT AS THE CROW FLIES? BECAUSE TO ME, YOUO OUT THERE AND DRIVE AROUND, THE TRAVEL DISTANCE TO THIS SUBJECT PARCEL ARE WELL MORE THAN A THOUSAND FEET. >> YEAH, IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE IT IS STATED TO MEASURE AS A STRAIGHT LINE FROM THE DOOR OF THE ESTABLISHMENT TO THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. >> Ratliff: OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THAT WAS MY REACTION WHEN I DROVE AROUND. THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF OUR DISTANCE MEASUREMENTS IN OUR ORDINANCE, IS . . . >> IT IS NOT CONSTEN IT VARIES BASED UPON THE REQUIREMENT. BUT THAT IS -- WE DO USE THAT. >> Chair Downs: SO, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE THIS. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BAR, A DISTANCE FROM A CHURCH, IS IT THE DISTANCE YOU DRIVE, OR IS IT BY STRAIGHT? STRAIGHT ON THAT ONE, RIGHT? >> [ OFF MIC ] >> FOR TOD DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE A QUARTER-MILE DISTANCE AND THERE'S NO STIPULATION AS TO HOW WE MEASURE THAT. INSTEAD OFOING A STRAIGHT LINE FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO THE TRAIN STATION, IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, WE TOOK THE PEDESTRIAN PATH, WHICH WAS A SIDEWALK. >> Chair Downs: I THINK I'M GOING TO PUT THIS MORE IN RELATION TO THE CONCEPTION OF A SIN RIGHT. IT'S A BAR. IT'S SELLING ALCOHOL. IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING ON TRAINS? >> Chair Downs: THIS IS CERTAINLY -- IT'S NOT PEOPLE GETTING ON TRAINS, BUT IT DOES BRING UP A QUESTION THAT I HAD ABOUT THIS, ACTUALLY. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A COUPLE MORE PEOPLE, TOO. IS, HOW LONG AGO -- HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE WE REVIEWED THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF ACTIVITY? RECENTLY, OR WAS IT PART OF OUR DISCUSSION AROUND DOWNTOWN WHEN THE APPROVAL OF A SHOP THERE, DID WE TALK ABOUT DISTANCE, OR HAVE WE LEFT THAT IN THERE? >> DID WE LOOK AT THE GENERAL PROVISIONS AND DISTANCE MEASUREMENTS? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH THE DOWNTOWN, BUT I DON'T THINK WE TALKED ABOUT GENERALLY HOW WE MEASURE THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS. >> WHEN WE MODIFIED IT, I GUESS LAST YEAR, WE DID NOT DISCUSS -- LOOK INTO MODIFYING THOSE STANDARDS. THEY'VE BEEN THE SAME, LIKELY SINCE AT LEAST 2001, IF NOT LONGER. >> Chair Downs: OKAY. I THOUGHT IT HAD BEEN A WHILE. AND I CAN REMEMBER A TIME WHEN SOMEBODY HAVING A TATTOO, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE KIND OF WENT, OOH, LOOK AT THIS GUY. NOW EVERYWHERE YOU GO, EVERYONE HAS TATTOOS. IT'S BECOME MORE OF AN EXPRESSION SELF-EXPRESSION. SO I'M WONDERING IF THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BAD RAP POTENTIALLY, AND MAYBE WE SHOULD RELOOK AT THIS. IF COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO REDUCE IT TO 300 FEET, SHOULD WE LOOK AT THAT AS A POSSIBILITY. SO, IT'S NOT RELATED TO THIS CASE, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT HOW LONG THAT THOUSAND FOOT HAD BEEN THERE. COMMISSIONER OLLEY, YOU HAD YOU? OH, YOU SWITCHED. OKAY. >> AS I BELIEVE THE ONLY ORDAINED MINISTER ON THE PANEL, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SINS, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT -- [ LAUGHING ] >> THE CONSUMPTION OF SIN -- OR THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL IS NOT A SIN. IT IS THE LACKF MODERATION AND ABUSE THEREOF, BECAUSE JESUS TURNED -- >> Chair Downs: WATER INTO WINE. >> SO ALCOHOL AND THE CONSUMPTION THEREOF IS NOT A SIN. >> Chair Downs: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. BEFORE THIS TURNS INTO BIBLE STUDY. [ LAUGHING ] >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER OLLEY. HEY, THANK YOU. I WASN'T EXPRESSING MYSELF CLEARLY. COMMISSIONER OLLEY. LET'S MOVE FORWARD. THESE FINE PEOPLE ARE WAITING ON A DECISION. >> Olley: YEAH, MOST OF THE QUESTION -- I HAD THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT AS THE CROW FLIES, BECAUSESSENALLY THIS IS SAYING FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL, BECAUSE THE TWO OPPOSING COMMENTS IT IS ABOUT CRIME. SO THIS INDIVIDUAL WILL HAVE TO JUMP OVER A COUPLE OF BUILDINGS, RUN THROUGH TRAFFIC, DIVE AROUND, AND THERE'S A BANK IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, NOT FAR FROM THERE. >> PARDON? >> Olley: THERE'S A BANK NOT FAR FROM THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION. >> YES. AS I MENTIONED, THE WHOLE AREA IS PRETTY MUCH DEVELOPED TO THE CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL STANDARDS WITH OTHER SHOPPING CENTERS, RETAIL RESTAURANTS. >> Olley: AND HAVING RKED FOR A BANK IN THE PAST, WE SECURE OUR PROPERTY. [ LAUGHING ] >> Olley: SO I'M JUST SAYING. I HAVE LESS OF A CONCERN ABOUT THIS BEING A MAGNET FOR CRIME. BUT TO YOUR POINT, IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE SHOULD EITHER DEFINE WHAT KIND OF ADJACENCIES NEED THE STRAIGHT CROW FLY AND WHAT KIND OF ADJACENCY SITUATIONS NEED MORE OF THE WHAT'S THE PROBABLE WALKABLE PATH TO GET THERE. >> Chair Downs: ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL ADDRESS THAT. YEAH. LET'S MOVE ON. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. OKAY. [ CHUCKLING ] I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION OR SPEAKERS? >> WE DO. WE HAVE FOUR OF THE APPLICANTS. FIRST IS RANDY DAWSON. AND THEN IF ROY AND RYAN DAWSON CAN MAKE THEIR WAY DOWN TO THE FRONT TO BE READY TO SPEAK. AND THEN ONLINE WE HAV STEVE SALTAS. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE THIS EVENING. >> MORE THAN WELCOME. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS RANDY DAWSON. I RESIDE IN LANCASTER, TEXAS. TONIGHT WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR VOTE OF APPROVAL FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO OPEN AND OPERATE A FAMILY TATTOO STUDIO IN PLANO NEAR 75 AND PARKER. THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS IS TOO GGROOVY STUDIOS. I AM A REAL ESTATE BROKER AND FOUR DECADES OF EXPERIENCE. I HAVE 33 DECADES OF EXPERIENCE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, RETAIL SPECIALIZATION. I REPRESENT MY BROTHER, ROY DAWSON, WHO IS A CORPORATE REAL ESTATE BROKER AND HIS SON, MY NEPHEW, RYAN DAWSON, WHO IS THE TATTOO ARTIST. ROY WILL BE PRESENTING TONIGHT AND STEVE, RYAN'S UNCLE AND PROFESSOR THE UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA WILL PRESENT AT THE CLOSING. WE HAVE A SHORT POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT WILL ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR ISSUES REGARDING E DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AS THE CROW FLIES DOOR-TO-DOOR, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, AND I THINK WE KNOW WHERE PLANO STANDS RIGHT NOW. BUT I HAVE SOME AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WILL PROBABLY ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 301 WEST PARKER, SUITE NUMBE. THE RUISSEAU SHOPPING CENTER, IT DOES NOT HAVE FRONTAGE ON PARKER. IT IS ON THE SECOND FLOOR. THE SPACE IS 1423 1423 SQUARE F. WE HAVE TWO RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, ONE IS DUE WEST A DISTANCE OF 936 FEET. THE SUBDIVISION'S NAME IS THUNDERBIRD ESTATES. THE OVER ONE, RUISSEAU, NORTHWEST, 617 FEET FROM THE STUDIO. THOSE SUBDIVISIONS FROM THE STUDIO ARE EVEN FURTHER ISOLATED BECAUSE YOU MUST CROSS OVER PREMIER DRIVE. SO, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK ATUR POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. AND THERE IT IS. UH-OH. OKAY. SO, CITY OF PLANO REQUESTS FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A FAMILY TATTOO STUDIO, 301 WEST PARKER. SUITE 213. THIS IS THE RUISSEAU VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER. I'M HOPING EVERYBODY IS SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH IT. THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. IF YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THIS BUILDING PHOTOGRAPH, YOU'LL SEE DEAD CENTER IT SAYS MARINES, TO THE RIGHT IT SAYS ARMY. WHERE IT SAYS MARINES IS WHERE WE WILL BE LOCATED. THE PILLAR YOU SEE BEHIND THE WORD MARINE IS AN ELEVATOR SHAFT. SO WE'RE VERY, KIND OF, EXCLUDED BECAUSE AN ELEVATOR SHAFT IS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF OUR SUITE. THE MARINES AND THE ARMY SPACE IS CURRENTLY VACANT. THAT'S JUST A BIGGER, BROADER VIEW OF THE SHOPPING CENTER. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S QUITE AN OFFSET DISTANCE FROM ANY STREETS OR PASSERBIERS. HERE WE'LL GET INTO THE DISTANCE. SO, WHAT WE DID ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, YOU'LL SEE WHERE THE V COMES TOGETHER, THAT IS THE ACTUAL SPACE. SO YOU WILL SEE, AS YOU CROSS OVER -- LET'S SEE HERE. LET ME GET OUT MY NOTES HERE. YOU'LL CROSS OVER PREMIER, WHICH IS A 617 FEET, THAT'S PREMIER DRIVE. SO YOU WILL SEE THERE ARE SEVERAL BUILDINGS YOU HAVE TO FLY OVER TO GET THERE. THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, THAT IS TO THE BACK OF A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, NOT TO THE FRONT. THIS IS A DIRECT LINE. IT'S NOT DOOR-TO-DOOR OR PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE. IT IS 617 FEET AS THE CROW FLIES. IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES ACROSS PARKER ROAD, THAT IS 936 FEET. SO I HOPE THIS GIVES YOU A BETTER VISUAL OF HOW FAR AWAY WE ACTUALLY ARE FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. THE NEXT VIDEO -- LET'S SEE HERE. THIS VIDEO, THIS AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH WAS TAKEN ABOUT 400 FEET OF ELEVATION. AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU THE PERSPECTIVE OF WHERE THE TATTOO STUDIO WILL BE IN RELATION TO SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. SO, DOWN IN THE LOWER RIGHT-HAND CORNER IS THE SUBJECT PRORTY. D YOU CAN SEE AS THE CROW FLIES, 617 FEET, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AND STREETS YOU HAVE TO GO ACROSS TO GET TO IT. SO IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO ME TO BE REALLY IN LINE, IN VIEW OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES OR ANY SCHOOL OR CHURCH THAT WE'RE AWARE OF. THERE'S JUST ANOTHER VIEW. AND I'M HIGHLIGHTING THE 617 LINEAR FEET FROM THE SPACE, AGAIN STARTIG AT THE BOTTOM OF THE GE I OUR LOCATION. AND AS THE CROW FLIES, STRAIGHT ACROSS, 617 FEET. YOU CAN SEE YOU HAVE TO GO ACROSS I BELIEVE THAT'S THE BANK. THEN YOU HAVE TO GO ACROSS THE ROAD THERE. AND THEN THROUGH MORE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES BEFORE YOU DO GET TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE REST OF MY FAMILY COME UP AND SPEAK, ROY DAWSON I BELIE WIL BE NEXT TO SPEAK. AND I APPRECIATE IT. >> SIR, YOU HAVE A REMAINING EIGHT MINUTES AND 50 SECONDS LEFT. >> I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. >> THAT'S OKAY. YOU HAVE A REMAINING EIGHT MINUTES AND 50 SECONDS LEFT TO SPEAK. >> COME ON UP. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ROY DAWSON. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF LOS RIOS FOR 17 YEARS. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY DEEP PRESENTAPPRECIATION FOR OUR ECO. WITH OVER 40 YEARS IN THE REAL ESTATE PRACTICE, AND AS AN ACTIVE BROKER, I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WITNESSING PLANO'S GROWTH FIRST-HAND. AS I APPROACH THE NEXT PHASE OF MY LIFE, I HAVE SET MY SIGHTS ON RETIRING FROM THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY AND FOCUSING ON MY FAMILY'S TATTOO BUSINESS WITH MY SON, RYAN DAWSON. I FIRMLY BELIEVE THERE'S ROOM FOR ANOTHER TATTOO STUDIO IN PLANO, CONSIDERING THERE'S ONLY PLANO.ACTIVE TATTOO SHOPS IN RESPONSIBLE OWNERS, WE VALUE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF PLANO AND ARE COMMITTED TO BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS. TWO GROOVY STUDIOS WILL WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CITY AND STATE TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH ALL REGULATIONS AND GUIDELINES. WE FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THIS BUSINESS WILL BRING CREATIVITY, EXPERIENCE, AND A VALUABLE SERVICE TO THE CITY OF PLANO. AND WE EAGERLY ANTICIPATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY FOR YEARS TO COME. WE HAVE SIGNED A LEASE WITH HAGGARD PROPERTY GROUP. THE LEASE IS SUBJECT TO APPROVL BY THE S.U.P. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M ASKING THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE S.U.P. NOT FOR ME, BUT FOR MY ENTIRE FAMILY. THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS RYAN DAWSON. I LIVE IN DALLAS, TEXAS. AND I'M THE ARTIST IN THE FAMILY. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO TELL. I HAVE EIGHT YEARS C TATTOOING EXPERIENCE AND LOOK TO OPEN A STUDIO. OUR STUDIO WITH WILL A FATHER-SON VENTURE WITH THE BACKING OF THREE OTHER ARTISTS. OUR BOOKS WILL BE OPEN QUARTERLY AND WE WILL BE AN APPOINTMENT-BASED STUDIO. OUR GOAL IS TO ESTABLISH A PROFESSIONAL SAFE AND QUALITY-BASED TATTOO EXPERIENCE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PLANO AND BEYOND. THANK YOU. >> NEXT, WE HAVE STEVE SALTIS. >> HELLO, THANK YOU, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS STEVE SOL TIS BEAMING IN FROM GEORGIA. RYAN DAWSON, I'M PROUD TO SAY HE IS MY NEPHEW. I'M ALSO PROUD TO BE A 1979 GRADUATE OF PLANO SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL. GO WILDCATS. GREAT MEMORIES GROWING UP IN PLANO. I JUST WANT TO SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS ABOUT MY NEPHEW AND HIS ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT. I'VE HAD A FIRST-HAND PERSPECTIVE IN WORKING WITH RN ER TAST SEVERAL YEARS AS HE'S LAUNCHED HIS ARTISTRY. AND I HAVE BEEN SO IMPRESSED WITH HIS ABILITY TO BUILD BRANDS, CREATE INFLUENCE IN A POSITIVE WAY. HE'S CREATED A PERSONA AND A BRAND IN THE INK MASTER SPACE THAT HAS JUST BEEN INCREDIBLE TO WATCH OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND HOW HE'S DEVELOPED THAT. HE'S GOT A NUMBER OF KEY CLIENTS AND INFLUENCERS THAT ARE PART OF HIS NETWORK, INCLUDING NFL PLAYERS, JACK PRESCOTT IS A BIG FAN. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF VISITING WITH FAMILY SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND WE WERE SITTING IN A LOCAL MEXICAN RESTAURANT AND THE GENTLEMAN OUT OF THE BLUE JUST CAME UP AND APPROACHED RYAN AND SAID I'M A BIG FAN OF YOUR WORK. I SEE THAT OVER AND OVER. IT'S REALLY SHOWING IN HIS -- IN THE CALIBER OF THE WORK HE DOES AND HIS ABILITY TO REALLY CREATE A POSITIVE AND STIMULATING COMMUNITY. I THINK HE WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE SMALL BUSINESS CITIZENRY OF PLANO. IN MY PAST LIFE AS HEAD OF EXECUTIVE AND CEO COMMUNICATION R THE COCA-COLA COMPANY HERE IN ATLANTA, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF COMMISSIONING ART FROM RYAN. HE'S ALSO A FANTASTIC SKETCH ARTIST AND PENCIL AND OIL AND ACRYLIC ARTIST. AND HE DID SOME ORIGINAL CONTENT PIECES FOR US AT COCA-COLA THAT RESIDE IN VARIOUS EXECUTIVE OFFICES THROUGHOUT OUR TOWERS THERE AT NORTH AVENUE, AS WELL AS IN OUR CORPORATE ARCHIVES. RYAN'S WORK IS ARTWORK ALSO RESIDING AT FDR'S PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY IN LITTLE WHITE HOUSE IN GEORGIA. HE HAD A FEATURE -- WE HAD A FEATURED EXHIBIT WITH HIS WORK AT THE MISSISSIPPI STATE UNIVERSITY NEW NARRATIVE FESTIVAL. AND SOME OTHER CONNECTIONS, JACK PRESCOTT. SO I'VE JUST BEEN INCREDIBLY IMPRESSED WITH HIS ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT, HIS ARTISTIC CREATIVITY IS FANTASTIC. HE COMES FROM A STRONG WORLD BACKGROUND. HE'S SUPPORTED BY A TREMENDOUS FAMILY. I THINK HE WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS AND ADDITIVE MEMBER OF YOUR COMMUNITY. I HAVE THE HONOR OF, IN ADDITION TO RUNNING MY OWN BUSINESS, HERE IN ATLANTA AND EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION SPACE, I'M AN EXECUTIVE IN RESIDENCE AT UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA, DARTON SCHOOL OF BUSINESS. AND THE ENTREPRENEURIAL ENERGY I SEE FROM RYAN ECLIPSES SO MANY OF THE BRIGHT YOUNG MINDS THAT I'M TEACHING AT ONE OF THE TOP MBA SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTRY. SO I THINK YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE A REALLY GREAT ASSET AND ALLY AND SOMEONE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BRING IN MONEY AND GOODWILL AND ARSTIC CREATIVITY TO THE COMMUNITY. SO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> Chair Downs: ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? >> NO WE DO NOT. >> Chair Downs: OKAY. SO, I'VE GOT SEVERAL PEOPLE WITH QUESTIONS HERE. I'M ASSUMING FOR THE APPLICANT. SO, COMMISSIONER TONG, YOU WERE FIRST UP. >> Tong: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. AND I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS THING IN PLANO. WE DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF TATTOO STUDIOS. AND I HEARD THAT YOU'RE VERY EXPERIENCED. I JUST WONDER IF YOU HAVE BROUGHT ANY PICTURES OF YOUR PAST WORK OR PAST SETTINGS, OR HOW THE ROOMS WOULD LOOK LIKE? DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT? >> IT WOULD BE MAINLY KIND OF AN OPEN FLOOR PLAN. NOT -- SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE KIND OF THE ROOM STYLE. SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE KIND OF PARTITIONS. BUT WE WOULD BE MAINLY KIND OF AN OPEN FLOOR PLAN. >> Tong: OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. HAVE YOU RUN OR OWNED YOUR OWN BUSINESS STUDIO BEFORE, OR IS THIS THE FIRST ONE? >> THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE. >> Tong: THAT'S MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER BRONSKY. >> Bronsky: YEAH. SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR RYAN. SPECIFICALLY. >> Chair Downs: RYAN, YOU CAN PROBABLY JUST STAY THERE. >> OKAY. >> Chair Downs: I MEAN AT THE PODIUM. I THINK YOU MIGHT BE THERE FOR A LITTLE BIT. THEY'VE BUILT YOU UP SO HIGH, ALL OF US WANTOET TO KNOW YOU. COMMISSIONER BRONSKY, GO AHEAD. >> Bronsky: I WANT TO FIRST SAY IT'S ALWAYS EXCITING TO SEE YOUNG PEOPLE WITH AN ENTREPRENEURIAL DESIRE AND YOUR FAMILY CERTAINLY HAS A LOT OF VERY POSITIVE THINGS TO SAY. SO I'VE GOT TWO QUESTIONS. NUMBER 1, CAN YOU EXPLAIN -- THE IDEA OF A FAMILY TATTOO PARLOR, YOU EXPLAIN YOUR UNDERSTANDING FUNCTIONALLY OF THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE 229.406 WHICH RATES TO TATTOOING MINORS? >> RIGHT. SO, WHAT I UNDERSTAND OF IT AS FAR AS IN TEXAS AND THE STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT GOES, THERE'S ONLY A FEW THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE IF IT IS A MINOR AND IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AN OFFENSIVE TATTOO, GANG-RELATED. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO GET COURT-ORDERED FOR. GENERALLY SPEAKING, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNDER 18. >> Bronsky: SO THE ONLY THING THAT YOU CAN TATTOO IS WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE PARENTAL FIGURE OR PERSON -- GUARDIAN, YOU CAN TATTOO OVER THAT. BUT YOU CAN'T TATTOO ON THEM OTHERWISE CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> Bronsky: SO MY SECOND QUESTION IS, OPERATIONALLY, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR YOUR INDIVIDUAL PROCESS TO VERIFY AND DOCUMENT THE AGE OF SOMEBODY WHO COULD BE IN THAT AREA? HOW DO I ENSURE THAT YOU'RE NOT TATTOOING SOMEBODY, AND WHAT DOES YOUR PROCESS LOOK LIKE TO MAINTAIN THAT AND TO PROTECT THAT? >> RIGHT. SO THE STATE HAS PAPERWORK THAT IS KIND OF A GUIDELINE. I'M SURE YOU CAN KIND OF VARY IT IN CERTAIN WAYS, BUT GENERALLY THE STATE WILL HAVE A TEMPLATE THAT'S SPECIFIED FOR FILLING OUT WITH NAME, AGE, AND THEN IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A REQUIREMENT TO TAKE A PHOTO COPY OF IT. BUT YOU DO GENERALLY, YOU DO SEE THE PAPERWORK WITH PHO PHOTO COF THE ID, WHICH IS USUALLY KEPT ON HASNHAND FOR TWO YEARS. >> Bronsky: OKAY. AND YOU FEEL THAT -- YOU FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE GOOD HANDS ON AND YOU EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE YOUTH IN PLANO THAT ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING THE TATTOOS FROM GETTING SOMETHING THEY SHOULDN'T? >> CORRECT, YES. >> Bronsky: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I PRECIATE YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE CODE AND HOW IT OPERATES. ALTHOUGH I PROBABLY WOULD NEVER GET TATTOOED, I KNOW THE MAJORITY OF MY CHILDREN DO AND HAVE WHEN THEY BECAME ADULTS. AND THE OPTION FOR THAT FOR ME IS GREAT. I HOPE YOU DO WELL. >> THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER OLLEY, YOU'RE NEXT. LET'S FOCUS ON LAND USE. >> Olley: ACTUALLY, I HAVE A QUTION. SOMEONE ASKED ALL THE SERIOUS QUESTIONS. IT WASN'T A LAND USE QUESTION. I WAS GOING TO ASK, I'VE HEARD IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TATTOO ON VERY DARK SKIN. HOW TRUE IS THAT? >> Chair Downs: I DON'T THINK THAT'S A LAND USE QUESTION. >> Olley: IT'S A CURIOSITY. >> LATER. >> Chair Downs: I SUGGEST YOU LOOK HIM UP AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. DO WE HAVE ANY LAND USE-BASED DISCUSSIONS ON A TATTOO PARLOR IN THIS LOCATION? I DON'T SEE ANY -- ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. >> YES, SIR. THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: ALL RIGHT. WE'LL RESTRICT IT -- WE LOST STEVE. I WAS GOING TO SAY, HEY, '79 WILDCATS GO. SAME HERE. WHICH MEANS WE'RE BOTH OLD. [ LAUGHING ] >> Chair Downs: OKAY. FIRST OFF, MR. BROUNOFF. >> Brounoff: THANK YOU. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GET A TATTOO, THAT'S HIS CHOICE. IT'S FREEDOM OF SPEECH FROM. FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE SEPARATION. I DON'T SEE A LOT OF CROWS FLYING IN FROM A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET TATTOOS. I DON'T SEE THE RESIDENTS HAVING TO CLIMB OVER FENCES, TREES, PARKING LOTS AND ROOFTOPS IN ORDER TO STAND IN THEIR FRONT DOOR AND SAY, OH, HEAVENS, A TATTOO PARLOR. I THINK THE SEPARATION AND BUFFERING IS ADEQUATE. AND I'M IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER TONG. >> Tong: I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING. I FEEL LIKE IT HAS ADEQUATE DISTANCE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREA TO THE LOCATION OF T RTICAR STUDIO. AND ALSO IT'S KIND OF HIDDEN ON THE SECOND FLOOR BEHIND AN ELEVATOR SHAFT. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT PROCEDURE. EVEN IF WE APPROVE TODAY, IT WOULD GO TO THE COUNCIL, AND THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO APPROVE AGAIN TO ADJUST THAT DISTANCE? >> Chair Downs: MHMM. >> Tong: OKAY. I THINK I'M IN FAVOR. >> Chair Downs: AND I THINK -- SORRY. LET ME ASK STAFF REAL QUICK, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE. BUT THEY HAVE A WHOLE HEALTH STANDARD TOO. THEY'RE SUBJECT TO INSPECTIONS FOR THAT PURPOSE, RIGHT? >> YEAH, THEY HAVE A STATE HEALTH REQUIREMENT. I'M NOT SURE IF THE CITY HAS HEALTH REQUIREMENTS. I BELIEVE THERE MAY BE. BUT, YES, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO MEET THOSE AS WELL. >> Chair Downs: OKAY. AND I SAID CITY. I KNOW THEY'RE SUBJECT TO SOME. I WASN'T SURE WHO THE ENFORCEMENT ARM WAS, SO, OKAY. >> IT DEPENDS. PROBABLY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. >> Chair Downs: YEAH. OKAY. COMMISSIONER BRONSKY. >> Bronsky: MY QUESTION IS MOREPERATIONAL. I CAN UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE REASONS THAT YOU WOULD CALCULATE ONE THING ONE WAY AND ONE THING A DIFFERENT WAY, BUT IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE IDEA THAT OVERALL WE SHOULD GO FROM A THOUSAND TO 300, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IS THAT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO OR SOMETHING COUNCIL HAS TO DO? >> Chair Downs: LET'S BRING THAT UP AS A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ITEM, BECAUSE THAT'S UNRELATED TO TONIGHT. TONIGHT WE JUST NEED TO DECIDE. >> Bronsky: ALL RIGHT. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER OLLEY. >> Olley: MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL GRANTED A REDUCTION OF T DISTANCE REQUIREMENT FROM RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. >> SECOND. >> Chair Downs: OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER OLLEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BROUNOFF TO APPROVE ITEM 2. SUBJECT TO THE RESTRICTIONS IN STAFF REPORT. PLEASE VOTE. THAT ITEM CARRIES 8-0. CONGRATULATIONS ON ANOTHER STEP FOR YOUR FAMILY BUSINESS. [ APPLAUSE ] >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ALL RIGHT. >> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, Public Hearing: Proposed 2023-24 Community Investment Program - Discussion and consideration of the proposed 2023-24 Community Investment Program (CIP) to ensure projects and programs are aligned with the Comprehensive Plan and other adopted master plans. Applicant: City of Plano (Legislative consideration). >> GOOD EVENING, I'M DREW, LEAD PLANNER. THIS IS A PRESENTATION OF THIS YEAR'S PROPOSED COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM AND ANALYSIS OF ITS ALIGNMENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I WILL START WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THE CIP ALIGNMENT PROCESS. THEN WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVE FROM FALITI, AND PUBLIC WORKS TO PRESENT HIGHLIGHTS OF THEIR DEPARTMENT'S PROJECTS AND THEN I'LL CLOSE WITH KEY OUTCOMES OF THE PROJECT ALIGNMENT. SO IN SUMMARY, THE CIP IS A FIVE-YEAR GUIDE TO MAINTAINING CAPITAL PROJECTS AND EACH YEAR THE COMMISSION CONFIRMS THAT THE PROPOSED ONE-YEAR CIP PROJECTS ALIGN WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AS SHOWN ON THE GRAPHIC ON THIS SLIDE, THE CIP IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY IMPLEMENTATION PROCESSES THAT ADVANCE THE GOALS AND ACTIONS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GUIDES BUDGET PRIORITIES AND THEN THE COMMISSION'S ROLE IS TO ASSIST IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN BY CONFIRMING THE ALIGNMENT OF THE CIP PROJECTS TO THE PLAN POLICIES. AS A REMINDER, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS STRUCTURED INTO PILLARS, COMPONENTS, POLICIES AND ACTIONS THAT ADDRESS A DIVERSE SET OF TOPICS THAT GUIDE PLANO'S FUTURE. YOU MAY REMEMBER IN PAST YEARS THE ALIGNMENT WAS PRESENTED ON THE HOW THE PROJECT IS ALIGNED WITH THE THEMATIC GOALS AND A PREVIOUS ALIGNMENT ANALYSIS SHOWN ON THE RIGHT IDENTIFIED WHICH OF THE PLAN THEMES ALIGNED TO CIP PROJECTS. THIS YEAR, THE FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE POLICY HAS BEEN UPDATED TO AND SPECIFICALLY ACTION FI4 PROVIDES GUIDANCE TO THE COMMISSION ON HOW EACH YEAR'S CIP PROJECTS SHOULD BE MEETING ONE OR MORE OF SEVEN PRIORITIES SHOWN HERE ON THE SLIDE. SO THIS YEAR'S ANALYSIS LOOKS TO HOW THE ONE-YEAR CIP PROJECTS ARE MEETING THE FOLLOWING PRIORITIES STARTING WITH A, ADDRESSING PRIORITY INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES DUE TO POOR CONDITIONS OR IMMINENT FAILURE. THIS INCLUDES MAJOR REPLACEMENTS AND REPAIRS TO FIX INFRASTRUCTURE AT ITS END OF LIFE. AN EXAMPLE BEING A MAJOR STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. B IS PROVIDING PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE. THIS INCLUDES REPAIRS TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. C IS IMPLEMENTING ASPECTS OF PLAN MAPS. THESE INCLUDE NEW CONSTRUCTION OR RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT COMPLETE AN UNBUILT ASPECT OF ONE OF THE MASTER PLAN MAPS SUCH AS BUILDING A NEW TRAIL THAT'S IDENTIFIED ON THE BICYCLE TRANSPORTATION PLAN MAP. D IS ADDRESSING SPECIFIC GOALS OR ACTIONS IN DEPARTMENT STRATEGIC PLANS. THIS INCLUDES PROJECTS THAT ADVANCE GOALS OR ACTIONS IN OUR VARIOUS CITY MASTER PLANS SUCH AS PARK RENOVATIONS OR UPGRADES THAT MEET ONE OR MORE GOALS OF THE PARK'S MASTER PLAN. AND THEN E, F, AND G GUIDE PRIORITIZING PROJECTS THAT MEET VARIOUS STRATEGIC GOALS INCLUDING PROMOTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OBJECTIVES SUCH AS THE COLLIN CREEK INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, IMPLEMENTING TECHNOLOGY OR INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS, AND SUPPORTING STRATEGIC REINVESTMENT SUCH AS THE PLANO EVENT CENTER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. THE CIP ANALYSIS THAT WE PROVIDED IN THE ATTACHMENT SUMMARIZE THE ONE-YEAR PROJECTS BY THEIR GENERAL CHARACTERISTICS TYPE AND LOCATION. FUNDING AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PLAN ALIGNMENT WITH THE ACTION 4. PROJECT TYPE INFORMATION SHOWS HOW MUCH FUNDING IS DIRECTED TOWARDS LARGER-SCALE PROJECTS SUCH AS RECONSTRUCTION OR NEW FACILITIES VERSUS SMALLER MAINTENANCE-RELATED PROJECTS LARGELY FUNDED BY CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUNDS. FUNDING SOURCE INFORMATION IDENTIFIES HOW THE PROJECT TYPES ARE FUNDED ACROSS VARIOUS EXPENDITURE CATEGORIES. AND THEN WE PROVIDE DEPARTMENT-SPECIFIC SUMMARIES FOR PARKS AND RECREATION, ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS, AND FACILITIES. THOSE THREE DEPARTMENT PROJECT GROUPS MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF THE CIP BUT THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF OTHER PROJECTS AND CATEGORIES THAT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE OVERALL ANALYSIS. AND THEN TO ILLUSTRATE HOW THE PROJECTS ARE EVALUATED AGAINST THE NEW FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE POLICY. AS THE ONE-YEAR CIP WAS DERTMENTS TO REVIEW FORHE CONSISTENCY AND WHETHER THEY MEET ONE OR MORE OF THE ACTION PRIORITIES. AN EXAMPLE PROJECT WOULD BE A COMMUNITY PARK RENOVATIONS PROJECT THAT INCLUDES A COMBINATION OF RENOVATING EXISTING PARK FACILITY ASPECTS AS WELL AS REPLACEMENT. AND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT EXAMPLE WOULD ALSO PROMOTE ONE OR MORE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES OF THE PARKS MASTER PLAN SO IT WOULD BE SCORED IN THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF THE ACTION. MOVING ON TO KEY OUTCOMES OF OUR ANALYSIS. STARTING WITH A FUNDING OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED ONE-YEAR CIP. SO FOR PROJECT TYPE, THE MAJORITY OF FUNDING GOES TOWARD EITHER MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OR MAJOR REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. FOLLOWED BY NEW IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN POLICY OR STUDY-RELATED PROJECTS. LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS, MAINTENANCE PROJECTS MAKE UP A LARGE MAJORITY. FOR PROJECT LOCATIONS, ALMOST THREE-FOURTHS OF PROJECTS HAVE A SPECIFIC LOCATION IN THE CITY WHICH WE'VE SHOWN ON THE INCLUDED MAP. AND ABOUT ONE-FOURTH ARE CITYWIDE PROJECTS. NEXT IS A DEPARTMENT SUMMARY OF PROJECT FUNDING. ABOUT 60% OF FUNDING IS IDENTIFIED FOR ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS FOLLOWED BY PARKS AND THEN FACILITIES. BUT WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE NUMBER OF CAPITAL MAINTENANCE PROJECTS, FACILITIES MAKES UP A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PROJECTS FOR THIS NEXT YEAR. NEXT SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN OF PROJECT FUNDING SOURCE WITH GENERAL OBLIGATION FUNDS FOLLOWED BY THE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUND. AND THEN LASTLY A DEPARTMENT SUMMARY OF PROJECT TYPES, MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS PROJECTS MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF PROJECTS FOR EACH DEPARTMENT FOLLOWED BY MAJOR REPLACEMENT PROJECTS. BUT THEN WHEN LOOKING AT THE FUNDING TOTALS FOR EACH DEPARTMENT, MAJOR REPLACEMENT PROJECTS GENERALLY HAVE THE LARGEST TOTALS FOLLOWED BY FUNDING FOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR. AND SO THAT WAS A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THIS YEAR'S CIP PROGRAM. SO I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER TO THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS TO PRESENT HIGHLIGHTS OF THEIR PROJECTS AND THEN I'LL RETURN WITH A CONCLUSION OF THE PLAN ALIGNMENT SUMMARY. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GET THE PARKS, GO AHEAD, COME ON UP. I WANTED TO APOLOGIZE FOR YOU GUYS. I DIDN'T LOOK DOWN TO THE NON-HEARING ITEMS. I'M SURE YOU'RE WAITING FOR NO. 9. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. RENEE JORDAN. I'M THE PARK PLANNING MANAGER. IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION CIP THERE ARE FIVE PROJECT TYPES OR FUND CATEGORIES WITH 94 PROJECTS TOTALING $84.5 MILLION, REPRESENTING A QUARTER OF THE TOTAL CIP. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE. THE ITEMS IN THE RECREATION CENTER FUND IS THE RENOVATION PROJECT . THIS RECREATION CENTER FUNDING IS FOR CONSTRUCTION AND THE PROJECT IS DELIVERED BY OUR FACILITIES DIVISION. THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS FUND PROJECTS ARE THROUGHOUT THE PARK SYSTEM AND I'LL HIGHLIGHT A FEW FOR YOU. THE JACK CARTER PARK PROJECT WILL IMPLEMENT PHASE 1 OF IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT PARK. BASED ON THE PARK SITE MASTER PLAN. THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL REPROGRAM AND RENOVATE THE FORMER MAINTENANCE SHOP AREA ADDING TRAILS, REPLACING A RESTRG SPORTS FIELDS. THE LOS RIOS WILL CONNECT THE SOUTHERNMOST TRAIL HEADS OF BOTH THE COTTONWOOD GREEN BELT AND WOODRUFF PARK. THIS INCLUDES PROJECTS TO REPLACE THE PLAYGROUND AND RESTROOMS AND TO ADD SHADE STRUCTURES AT THE DOG PARK. THE CAPITAL COMPLAINTS FUND SUPPORTS SMALLER PROJECTS THAT MAINTAIN, REPAIR, OR RENOVATE ASSETS AND FACILITIES IN THE PARKS AND REC SYSTEM. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THIS FUND SUPPORTS OUR FOUR PERFORMING ARTS VENUES, 15 ATHLETIC SITES, MORE THAN 200 PARKS AND MEETING IRRIGATION SYSTEMS, FIVE MILES OF LIVING SCREENS, 85 PARK SITES, 47 PUBLIC BUILDING SITE GROUNDS, FIVE RECREATION CENTERS, AND MORE. FUNDING IS INCLUDED IN THE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUND AT THE PLANO EVENT CENTER TO UPDATE LIGHTING AND STORE FRONT DOORS. INHE PARK FEE FUND, THE LARGEST PORTION IS REVENUE. THIS IS A RESULT OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COLLIN CREEK REDEVELOPMENT SITE. FUNDS WILL BE SPENT FROM OTHER PARK FEE AREAS ON TRAIL CONNECTIONS AT JACK CARTER PARK, ON LAND OR IMPROVEMENTS AT THE PROPOSED ALMANAC DEVELOPMENT, ON IMPROVEMENTS AT HORSESHOE PARK, IN ADDITION TO RENOVATION, AND ON ACQUISITIONS AND ORISON. AND FINALLY, IN THE LAST SECTION OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION CIP, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PROJECT IN E DRNAGE FUND NEXT YEAR IS THE [INDISCERNIBLE]. REMAINING FUNDING IS AVAILABLE FOR DESIGNS AND REPAIRS CITYWIDE. SO THIS CONCLUDES THE PARKS AND RECREATION CIP AND I CAN TAKE QUESTIONS AT THIS MOMENT, IF YOU HAVE ANY. >> Chair Downs: DO YOU GUYS BUILD MONEY IN FOR AIR-CONDITIONING FOR THE PARKS? [ LAUGHTER ] JUST CURIOUS. COMMISSIONER CARY. >> Cary: IN LOOKING AT YOUR BUDGET HERE, IT SHOWS I THINK I MUST BE READING -- I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS. PARK FEES IN 2023-2024, $6.2 MILLION DOWN TO $1.7 MILLION IN 24-25 AND THEN IT DROPS DOWN FROM THERE. WHY THE DROP OFF IN PARK FEES IN ENSUING YEARS? >> IN 23-24 WE'RE ANTICIPATING COLLECTING THE PARK FEE COMING IN FROM THE COLLIN CREEK REDEVELOPMENT. SO OUR BUDGET NOT ONLY INCLUDES THE EXPENDITURES BUT REVENUES. THAT WOULD BE A PICTURE OF THE REVENUE COMING IN. >> Cary: [OFF MIC] >> YES, SIR. >> Chair Downs: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: MR. THORNHILL. SHE WAS QUICK AND SUCCINCT. >> I KNOW. THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE RIGHT NOW. I'VE GOT TO MOVE. CALEB THORNHILL, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING FOR THE CITY OF PLANO AND I WILL GET TO IT. SOGERING IS VERY BUSY AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK DISTINCTION BETWEEN ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS. A PROJECT COMES TO ENGINEERING WHEN IT IS TYPICALLY A FULL REPLACEMENT. THE ASSET IS EITHER DETERIORATED TO A POINT TO WHERE YOU CAN NO LONGER MAINTAIN IT OR IN OTHER INSTANCES WHEN IT'S A NEW ASSET, SO A NEW SIDEWALK, NEW SCREENING WALL. NEW ROADWAY. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THOSE. MOST OF THE WALLS ARE PUT IN BY DEVELOPERS. MOST OF THE ROADS ARE PUT IN BY DEVELOPERS. THERE ARE SOME OCCASIONAL ONES THAT WE DO. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS A DISTINCTION THERE. SOGERING HAS FOUR SPECIFIC FUND TYPES OR PROJECT TYPES. STREETS IS THE MAIN ONE. THERE'S A LOT OF CATEGORIES IN THAT. MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE, WATER, SEWER. 109 PROJECTS WITH A TOTAL FUNDING NEXT YEAR OF $103 MILLION. SO, FROM A SUBTYPE, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE DO. CONSTRUCTION DESIGN CAPACITY. THOSE ARE OUR INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, TYPICALLY INCLUDE RIGHT TURNS, LEFT-TURN LANES, SAFETY COMPONENTS. TRANSPORTATION HAS A LOT OF INITIATIVES -- I'LL GET INTO THOSE. THEN WE HAVE WHAT WE CAL A MISCELLANEOUS. THAT'S THE SCREENING WALLS, BRIDGE REPAIRS, SIDEWALKS. THERE'S SOME OTHER ITEMS IN THERE AS WELL. SO, THE BIGGEST ONE OUT OF THIS CATEGORY -- AND IT TAKES UP THE MAJORITY OF IT OR AT LEAST HALF OF IT IS THE STREET CONSTRUCTION. WE'VE GOT, AS THE CROW FLIES, WHICH WAS A VERY TERM I RECENTLY HEARD. WE PUT NEARLY 21 MILES OF NEW PAVEMENT IN LAST YEAR. NOW, THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH WATER LINE PROJECTS WHEN WE ME IN. BUT WE FINISHED -- I'M SORRY. WE COMPLETED TEN PROJECTS LAST YEAR, WHICH IS A GREAT YEAR FOR US FOR JUST STREETS. DOESN'T INCLUDE THE OTHER FUND CATEGORIES. WE PROJECT TO START EIGHT NEW ONES NEXT YEAR. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP YOU'LL SEE THE BLUE IS EITHER A PROJECT THAT'S ALREADY COMPLETED OR IT'S ACTUALLY ONGOING. YOU CAN SEE TO THE LOWER RIGHT HAND OF YOUR SCREEN, SHILOH ROAD, IF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ARE WE FINISH THAT THIS FALL. THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGER STREET PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD. THE RED WILL BE NEW PROJECTS THAT WE WILL START BIDDING AND AWARD AND START CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR. SO THE OTHER COMPONENT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION, THE OTHER DISTINCTION WITH ENGINEERING IS TYPICALLY -- WE ALWAYS HAVE A DESIGN COMPONENT WITH OUR PROJECTS. PUBLIC WORKS SOMETIMES DOES AND SOMETIMES DOESN'T. WE HAVE $2.3 MILLION OF FUNDING FOR DESIGN. A LIST OF THE PROJECTS THE, BUT THAT'S A REQUIREMENT WE HAVE FOR ALL OF OUR PROJECTS. 15 STREETS HERE LOCALLY DOWNTOWN, AND THERE'S A LIST OF OTHER ONES. YOU'LL SEE ON THE MAP, BLUE BEING PROJECTS THAT WE'VE EITHER FINISHED DESIGN OR THAT WILL BE ONGOING FROM LAST YEAR. RED WILL BE THE NEW ONES THAT WILL BE COMING ON BOARD. WE'VE GOT 15 -- I'M SORRY. GET TO THE RIGHT SLIDE. YEP. THAT'S IT. YOU CAN SEE IT'S PRETTY MUCH SPREAD OUT BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A FOCUS O THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PORTIONS. THAT'S REALLY JUST BECAUSE OF THE AGE. A LOT OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WAS PUT IN 30-PLUS YEARS AGO. IT'S REACHED THE END OF LIFE BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO THE CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THOSE ARE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. THERE'S TWO MAIN REASONS WE DO THOSE. FIRST AND FOREMOST IS SAFETY. IF WE HAVE A SAFETY CONCERN IN THE INTERSECTION THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE IMPROVEMENTS. THE OTHER COMPONENT IS THE CONGESTION MITATIO IF THERE IS TRAFFIC, AGAIN, WE NEED TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL LEFT AND RIGHT-TURN LANES. THERE'S A LIST OF THEM. I THINK IT PROBABLY LOOKS EVEN BETTER HERE WITH THE CASE OF THE BLUE AND RED MEASLES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVE PROJECTS. WE COMPLETED 15 LOCATIONS LAST YEAR. WE'VE GOT 10 GOING INTO DESIGN AND 15 NEXT YEAR. IF IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THERE REALLY IS. SO TRANSPORTATION I MENTIONED EARLIER. THEY HAVE INITIATIVES ONGOING. THEY HAVE A FUNDING FOR $10 MILLION NEXT YEAR BUT THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF ACTIVE PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE GOING ON. RECENTLY COMPLETED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER, NEW INTERSECTION DESIGNS. THE PHASE 4 FIBER. WE FINISHED THREE PHASES ALREADY AND PHASE 4 WILL EXTEND THE FIBER TO OVER 100 NEW -- NOT NEW, EXISTING INTERSECTIONS THAT INCREASES TRFIC ATHOSE LOCATIONS, TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, MITIGATE TRAFFIC IF THERE'S A SAFETY COMPONENT. IT'S REALLY CRITICAL. VEHICLE DETECTION IS A TRAFFIC CONGESTION. ALL OF OUR EXISTING CABINETS AT THESE INTERSECTIONS ARE OLD AND NEED TO BE REPLACED. IT'S THE BIG SILVER BOX THAT YOU'LL SEE. THAT REALLY IS THE BRAINS OF THE INTERSECTION. SO THEY HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON. AND THEN THE MISCELLANEOUS. THE MAJORITY OF THIS REALLY COMES FROM BRIDGE INSPECTION SCR. WE HAVE OTHER ITEMS IN THE BUDGET IN CASE SOMETHING COMES UP. STREET LIGHTING. THERE ARE A FEW LOCATIONS WHERE LIGHTING WAS NOT PROVIDED SO WE ADD THOSE. I THINK MARSH LANE WAS THE LAST ONE WE DID YEARS AGO ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN. SIDEWALK GAPS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE LOOK AT. WHETHER IT WAS DUE TO DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CHANGING OVER THE YEARS OR WHATEVER THE REASON MAY BE, IF THERE'S GAPS IN THE CITY, WE LOOK TO FILL THOSE GAPS FROM A SAFETY COMPONENT. THE SCREENING WALLS IS PROBABLY THE BULK OF THIS. THEY ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. AGAIN, GOING BACK TO MY OTHER COMMENT BETWEEN ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS. PUBLIC WORKS WILL MAINTAIN SCREENING WALLS UNTIL THEY ARE UNMAINTAINABLE. IF IT'S JUST REPLACING BRICKS OR PANELS, THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT. IF IT GETS DOWN TO THE FOUNDATION, THE WALL IS IN DANGER OF FALLING OVER OR FALLING APART, THAT'S WHEN ENGINEERING WILL COME IN AND REPLACE IT. WE HAVE A STANDARD WALL THAT WE PUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THE OTHER COMPONENT IS BRIDGE INSPECTION. WE GET REPORTS FROM TxDOT EVERY TWO YEARS. THEY'LL GIVE US ARADEN OUR BRIDGES AND WE'LL GO OUT AND MAKE MISCELLANEOUS ADJUSTMENTS GUARDRAIL ANY EROSION CONCERNS AT THE BRIDGE. DECK, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE. IT LOOKS LIKE A REALLY BIG NUMBER AND IT IS, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES COLLIN CREEK MALL AND THAT WAS A $23 MILLION PROJECT WHEN IT WAS BID AND WE RECENTLY ADDED AN ADDITIONAL $5 MILLION TO THAT. IT'S UP OVER $28 MILLION. WE ARE MAKING PGRESS ON THAT. WE EXPECT TO HAVE THAT DONE BUT IT WILL BE SOMETIME NEXT SPRING BEFORE WE COMPLETE THAT. THE REMAINDER OF THE PROJECTS IN THIS ARE USUALLY SOME KIND OF EROSION CONTROL. YOU SEE THE GATE STRUCTURES BEING PUT IN IN THE PICTURE. SO LAST TWO I HAVE ARE WATER AND SEWER. AGAIN, I MENTIONED THE MILES OF STREET THAT GO IN. TYPICALLY WHEN WE COME INTO A NEIGHBORHOODWHETR IS BECAUSE THE POOR CONDITION OF THE PAVEMENT OR THE POOR CONDITION OR JUST THE DATED MATERIAL, CAST IRON BEING ONE OF THOSE FOR WATER REHAB, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND TAKE OUT THE UTILITIES OR UPDATE THE UTILITIES AND UPDATE THE PAVEMENT AS WELL. SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF MILES OF WATER LINE GOING IN. YOU CAN SEE THERE FROM THE BUDGET, $15 MILLION FOR WATER REHAB. WE TRY TO GET IN THERE, GET EVERYTHING UP TO DATE, AND THEN GET OUT OF THERE AND HOPEFULLY NEVER COME BACK, AT LEAST FOR A LONG TIME. SIMILAR WITH SEWER. THE BIG INITIATIVE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH SEWER IS LINES ALONG PGBT. THERE'S SEVERAL LINES THAT ARE EXPERIENCING SURCHARGING WHICH CAN LEAD TO SAFETY CONCERNS, OVERFLOWS, ODOR ISSUES. WE HAVE A HUGE INITIATIVE INITIATIVE ALONG THE PGBT CORRIDOR, COIT TO ALMA WHERE WE'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL LINES THERE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT SURCHARGING. WE HAVE LIN PNNED FOR SPRI CREEK AS WELL SO THIS IS DOUBLE THE NUMBER, OR A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT THAT WE USUALLY HAVE FOR SEWER. WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS GOING TO CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR. I BELIEVE THAT IS MY LAST SLIDE. YES. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE FOR ME? >> Chair Downs: I DON'T SEE ANY -- OH, THERE ONE WENT. BEFORE MR. BRONSKY GOES, WERE YOU THE BRAINCHILD BEHIND THE JENNIFER LAWRENCE EATING THE HOT WINGS. THAT'S HOW PEOPLE FEEL WHEN THEY LEARN IT TAKES TWO YEARS TO COMPLETE PARKER ROAD CONSTRUCTION? NO? JUST CURIOUS. >> I'M GOING TO WRITE THAT ONE DOWN AND GET BACK TO YOU. >> Chair Downs: IT'S REALLY, REALLY GOOD. [LAUGHTER] IT HAS TO DO WITH STREET REPAIR. >> CROWS FLYING AND JENNIFER LAWRENCE. [LAUGHTER] BARS AND CHURCHES. ANYTHING ELSE? >> Bronsky: SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK YOU DO AND ARE PLANNING TO DO. MINE IS KIND OF A SEMI TWO-PART QUESTION ABOUT THE UNMAINTAINABLE SCREENING WALLS. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR THIS COMING YEAR? I KNOW ONE OF THE SCREENING WALLS THAT WAS REPLACED WAS ON CUSTER JUST NORTH OF PARKER. AND IT WAS A LIVING SCREEN THAT WAS REPLACED WITH A BRICK SCREEN. DO WE HAVE ANY LIVING SCREENS OUT THERE THAT ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO NEEDING TO HAVE THAT DONE AS FAR AS BEING UNMAINTAINABLE? AND THE SECOND PART OF THE FULL TEARDOWN OF A MASONRY WALL TO REBUILD. >> SO I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THAT AND I MAY CALL IN RENEE AT SOME POINT. A LIVING SCREEN VERSUS THE MASONRY SCREEN. AT THE TIME IT'S PUT IN IT'S REALLY UP TO THE DEVELOPER WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. THEY HAVE THE OPTION, AS LONG AS THERE IS A SCREEN THERE, THEY CAN PUT EITHER ONE. JUST MAKING SURE. SO WHERE WE DO HAVE LIVING REENS, THAT'S REALLY -- THAT WAS THE OPTION THAT WAS CHOSEN AT THAT TIME. THERE ARE TIMES WHERE YEARS GO BY, THE LIVING SCREENS GET HARD TO MANAGE OR BECOME FALLING APART, DON'T GET THE PROPER VEGETATION. AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD PETITIONS TO REPLACE THOSE. AND SO WE WILL GO INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAY THIS IS WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHOSE WHEN IT FIRST CAME IN. FOR US TO CHANGE IT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. IF THEY DO APPROVE THAT, WE DO COME BACK WITH A MASONRY WALL. THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DO NOT WANT IT REPLACED. THERE ARE SOME THAT DO. IT'S REALLY DEPENDENT ON WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHOOSES. >> Bronsky: ARE THERE ANY STANDARDS THAT SAY WHEN A LIVING SCREEN WOULD BE UNMAINTAINABLE. >> THAT'S WHERE WE PARTNER WITH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT. THEY MAINTAIN THE LIVING SCREENS. SHE'S STILL SHAKING HER HEAD. IF THEY GET TO A POINT TO WHERE IT'S JUST NOT MAINTAINABLE -- AND I KNOW THEY'RE TAKING A HUGE INITIATIVE RIGHT NOW TO GO IN THERE AND BE AS PROACTIVE AS POSSIBLE. BUT THERE'S NOT REALLY A, OKAY, AT THIS POINT WE HAVE TO REPLACE IT WITH A WALL. IT'S REALLY DEPENDENT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO DRIVE THAT. >> Bronsky: THE ONE I MENTIONED ON CUSTER, AS SOMEONE WHO WALKS WHEN THE WEATHER IS BELOW 1,000 DEGREES, THE LIVING SCREENS CAN SOMETIMES BE VERY DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO ONE OF THE ISSUES WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER AS RELATES TO UNIVERSAL DESIGN, PEOPLE WITH WHEELCHAIRS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THEIR THEIR MOBILITY TO B ABLE TO NAVIGATE LIVING SCREENS, JUST WHEN THEY'RE OUTGROWN A LITTLE BIT IS PROHIBITIVE FOR WHEELCHAIRS AS WELL AS FOR THE ELDERLY. AND SO, YEAH. I'M HAPPY THAT WE'RE DOING THAT AND, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT SPECIFICALLY MY QUESTION IS THE SCREENING WALLS AND SO FORTH ARE MAINTAINED APPROPRIATELY AND REPLACED. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER RATLIFF. >> Ratliff: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. JUST COMPLIMENTS, PRIMARILY. 102 PROJECTS AT THE TIME. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT, SO KUDOS. >> I DON'T KNOW. >> Ratliff: I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU SLEEP. BUT THIS MAY SOUND SARCASTIC BUT IT'S REALLY NOT. ALL THE WORK ON PARKER ROAD, COORDINATING THAT TO BE ALL DONE AT ONE TIME. SERIOUSLY, THANK YOU BECAUSE I CAN CHANGE MY TRAFFIC ROUTE FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND KNOW THAT IN SIX MONTHS IT WILL BE AWESOME. IT'S A LITTLE TOUGH RIGHT NOW BUT, SERIOUSLY, Y'ALL ARE WORKING BASICALLY ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT STREET, WHICH IS GREAT. >> APPCIATE IT. IT WAS A TEAM EFFORT AND I'M SURE HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED COMMUNICATIONS PUBLIC WORKS, ENGINEERING. >> Ratliff: I CAN TELL IT WAS INTENTIONAL SO I SINCERELY APPRECIATE IT. >> WE'RE GOING TO RIP THAT BAND-AID OFF. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER TONG. >> Tong: SO MY QUESTION HAS TWO PARTS. THE FIRST PART IS IF WE WERE GOING TO REPLACE ALL THE TELEPHONE POLES OR POWERLINE POLES ALONG THE MAJOR STREETS, WOULD THAT BE PART OF THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT OR FACILITIES OR PUBLIC WORKS? WHICH DEPARTMENT WOULD THAT BE? >> THAT WOULD LIKELY FALL TO ENGINEERING. THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT IS THAT WOULD BE AT THE COST TO THE CITY OF PLANO TO DO THAT. THOSE ARE ALL WITHIN THE STREET ROADWAY, PER OUR FRANCHISE UTILITY AGREEMENTS, ENCORE AT&T SPECTRUM CHARTER, WHOEVER IT WOULD BE ARE ALL WITHIN OUR RIGHT OF WAY AND IF WE ASK THEM TO UNRGROUND, THEY WOULD SAYWER ABSOLUTELY YOU FIND US A SPOT AND PAY US AND WE'LL DO IT. AND I CAN'T EVEN GIVE YOU A NUMBER OF WHAT THAT WOULD COST THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO UNDERGROUND IN THE ALLEYS, BUT ALONG THE ARTERIAL ROADWAYS, THEY GO OVERHEAD. >> Tong: YOU ANSWERED MY SECOND QUESTION ALREADY. THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER OLLEY. >> Olley: SIMILAR QUESTION ALONG THOSE LINES. I THINK IT'S CUSTER AND HEDGCOXE WHERE THE STREETS, IF YOU'RE ON THE FAST LANE, IT IS A RUDE AWAKENING -- >> I THINK THAT'S PRESTON. >> Olley: THERE'S ONE ON CUSTER. I THINK THEY ACTUALLY STARTED TO WORK ON THAT. >> OH, HAVE THEY? OKAY. >> Olley: MY QUESTION IS SIMILAR. IS THAT PUBLIC WORKS OR IS THAT ENGINEERING? IT'S NOT A NEW STREET. >> YEAH. THE ONE WE HAVE GOTTEN COMPLAINTS ABOUT IS PRESTON AND HEDGCOXE. I THINK IT'S WHITE ROCK CREEK, JUST SOUTH OF THAT. PRESTON IS TxDOT, SO THAT'S TxDOT. CUSTER AND HEDGCOXE I HAVE NOT HEARD BEFORE, SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. WHAT WOULD TYPICALLY HAPPEN IS PUBLIC WORKS WOULD GO OUT AND LOOK AT IT AND IF IT'S A BRIDGE STRUCTURE, SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THEY CAN DO OR IF IT'S A FAILURE WITH THE BRIDGE ITSELF, THE SLAB IS SEPARATING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN ENGINEERING WOULD COME IN AND DO A REPLACEMENT PROJECT FOR IT. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. >> YES. >> Chair Downs: GO LOOK UP THE JENNIFER LAWRENCE THING. IT'S FUNNY. SOMEBODY ATHEITY PUT IT OUT. THE CITY POSTED IT. IT'S FUNNY. NEXT. PAUL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. >> PAUL, FACILITIES DIVISION MANAGER. SO FACILITIES, WE HAVE THE SMALL BUDGET BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS. A LOT OF IT IS MAINTENANCE BASED. WE HAVE 127 TOTAL PROJECTS AND OUR TOTAL FUNDING OF THE YEAR IS $42ILLION, A LITE OVER, WHICH REPRESENTS 12% OF THE OVERALL CIP BUDGET. OF THAT $42 MILLION, RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT $16 MILLION FOR BOND-LEVEL PROJECTS. THOSE ARE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT WERE PART OF THE 2021 BOND REFERENDUM. I'LL GET INTO MORE DETAIL ON SOME OF THOSE IN THE FOLLOWING SLIDES. AND THEN THE OTHER IS $25 MILLION, OUR CIP, WHICH ARE MORE MAINTENANCE REPLACEMENTS PROJECTS OF AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER THAT'S A ROOFTOP UNIT FOR HVAC, CARPET AND A FLOOR. ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. LIGHTING FROM OUR ENERGY-EFFICIENT LIGHTING. TWO HIGHLIGHTED PROJECTS THERE BUT MOST OF THAT BUDGET IS FOR REPLACEMENT AND UPGRADING OF STUFF. TWO OF THEM WE CHOSE TO USE CMF4 WAS CARPORTS AT OUR EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER AND OUR POLICE SUBSTATION TO PROTECT FIRST RESPONDER VEHICLES FROM HAIL. THEN THE OTHER ONE IS RENOVATIONS AT THE POLICE HQ. SO THE ROOM WE'RE STANDING IN, EVERYBODY'S CURIOUS WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET IT GOING. WE HAVE CLOSED THE CONTRACT AND WE ARE WORKING CURRENTLY WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO CLOSE OUT ALL THE SUBCONTRACTS AND GET ALL THE MATERIALS' SUBMITTALS APPROVED AND MATERIALS ORDERED. WE'RE THINKING WE WILL START IN THE SUMMER OF 2024. WE WILL DISPLACE THIS MEETING, AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL MEETING TO THE DAVIS LIBRARY TEMPORARILY WHILE IT'S BEING REPAIRED. WE'RE TAKING THE APPROACH OF GETTING THE LONGEST LEAD ITEMS, GET THEM IN HAND OR AT LEAST KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM SO WHEN WE DISPLACE Y'ALL, WE DISPLACE Y'ALL FOR THE SHORTEST PERIOD OF TIME. COME IN, GET IT DONE, GET OUT. SO WE'RE NOT STANDING THERE, IT LOOKS MOSTLY DONE. LIGHTING IS NOT DONE. AND THEN WE EXPECT TO BE DONE HOPEFULLY BY THE SPRING OF 2025. FIRE STATION 5DDITIONS AND RENOVATIONS. IT'S GETTING ALMOST INTO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, IF NOT INTO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. IT'S A COMPLETE RENOVATION OF ALL THE EXISTING SPACES. WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE A HYBRID APPROACH BECAUSE IT WAS VERY COST PROHIBITIVE, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A SMALL SITE, TO TRY TO RENOVATE IT WHILE THEY'RE STILL OCCUPYING IT. FIRE HAS TOLD US THEY NEED TO REMAIN ON SITE AND TO KEEP THEIR RESPONSE TIMES UP. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A HYBRID APPROACH WHERE THE THREE BAYS THAT ARE THERE NOW WILL STAY OPEN. PUT THEM IN RESIDENTIAL TRAILERS IN THE BACK CORNER AND THEN ADD ON TO IT AND RENOVATE THE EXISTING AREAS. WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE IT FROM 10 TO 12 BEDS WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO PUT A FULL-TIME MED UNIT THERE PLUS TWO MORE BAYS THAT HELP WITH THE STORAGE. CURRENTLY THEY HAVE HAZMAT RESPONSE VEHICLES THAT SIT OUT IN THE OPEN. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT ALL UNDER COVER. OAK POINT PARKS MAINTENANCE. RENEE TALKED ABOUT THE FUNDING IN HER NUMBERS BUT WE'LL BE LEADING THE BUILDING ON IT. RIGHT NOW WE ARE ABOUT OUT OF SCHEMATIC DESIGN AND GOING INTO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT. AND WE ARE LOOKING TO OVERSIZE IT SLIGHTLY SO THAT WE CAN GROW INTO IT. IT'S TAKING THE PLACE OF TWO EXISTING PARKS MAINTENANCE BUILDINGS AND WE ARE REALLY WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT IT BLENDS WITH THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE SITE. THAT'S AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF LOS RIOS AND PARKER. ALSO WE ARE LOOKING TO TRY TO WORK IN A MASTER PLAN. YOU CAN SEE ON THAT PICTURE IN THE TOP RIGHT OF THE RENDERING. THAT'S A PARKS TRAIL HEAD IMPROVEMENT THAT WILL ADD PARKING, PLUS A RESTROOM FOR FOLKS TO USE. NEXT, TOM MUEHLENBECK. RENEE TALKED ABOUT THE FUNDING. THIS PROJECT IS BEING DRIVEN BY THE FACT THAT MUEHLENBECK IS OVER 15 YEARS OLD SO THE EQUIPMENT IS NEARING THE END OF ITS LIFE SPAN. A LOT OF IT ALL HAVE TO BE WORKED ON. THAT REALLY THE BULK OF THAT PROJECT BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHILE WE'RE THERE IS MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS ALL THE ACCESSIBILITY AND INCLUSION AND IMPROVE WAY ABOVE WHAT ANY STANDARDS WOULD REQUIRE. WE'RE TRYING TO ADD SOME NEW EXCITING AQUATICS FEATURES AND ALSO TRYING TO ADD MORE GENDER-NEUTRAL FAMILY-STYLE CHANGING ROOMS WHERE IT'S A SINGLE PRIVATE ROOM. WE'RE ADDING MORE OF THOSE. WE HAVE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE ASK FOR IT. YOU CAN SEE THE LONG LIST OF ALL THE DIFFERENT URADES THAT WE'RE NEEDING TO DO TO MAINTAIN THE FACILITY. LASTLY, $26 MILLION OF CAPITAL MAINTENANCE THIS YEAR ALONE FOR FACILITIES. WE HAVE $8.3 MILLION OF CONTROLS, UPGRADING OUR CONTROLS FOR ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS, PLUS REPLACING ALL OF OUR HVAC UNITS. YOU CAN SEE ONE HERE BEING FLOWN IN BY A CRANE. $7.8MILLION OF GENERATOR UPGRADES. THIS IS THE SECOND HALF OF TTING 100% POWER GENERATION OUR FIRST RESPONDER BUILDINGS, COMBINING WITH WHAT WE CALL PHASE 2 OF OUR GENERATIONS WHERE WE'RE ADDING MUCH MORE POWER GENERATION TO LIKE OUR REC CENTER AND PLANO CENTER AND A WARMING STATION. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE GOT FURNITURE REPLACEMENT, AGING FINISHES CARPET PAINT STUFF LIKE THAT. 2.8 OF FACILITIES IMPROVEMENTS. THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF OUR DEPARTMENTS COME TO US AND THEI E RENOVATIONS IN THEIR SPACE TO MAKE THEM MORE EFFICIENT. AND THEN I TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER TWO HIGHLIGHTED. AND $300,000 OF MISCELLANEOUS, OTHER REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE DONE THAT WHEN WE SAY REPAIRS IT'S USUALLY SOMETHING THAT ITS LIFE SPAN IS GOING BEFORE WE THOUGHT. IT'S MORE THAN PREDICTED MAINTENANCE. THAT'S IT FOR FACILITIES. ANY QUESTIONS? >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER BRONSKY. >> Bronsky: YEAH. SO GOING BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT TALKED ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STATION 5. SO YOU MENTIONED IN THERE STORM SHELTER. >> YES, SIR. >> Bronsky: IS THAT STORM SHELTER THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE, IS THAT GOING TO BE THE NEW ICC, 250 MILES PER HOUR -- >> YEAH, ICC REQUIRED IN THE IBC2014 ACTUALLY. WE HAVE ONE CERTIFIED STORM SHELTER IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW. WHEN WE BUILT THE NEW NORTHWEST, THE GREG RUSHIN SUBSTATION, THIS WOULD BE OUR SECOND. >> Bronsky: FRISCO WAS TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THEIR SCHOOLS AND RETROFITTING THAT, BEING EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. WHAT PROCESS HAVE WE DECIDED ON TO RETROFIT INTO THIS? >> IT'S TRIGGERED BY CODE. I WOULD HAVE TO TELL YOU THE EXACT TRIGGER. I THINK IT'S EXPANDING THE FOOTPRINT. SO IF WE WENT IN AND REMODELED AND REFRESHED FINISHES WITHIN A SPACE, IT'S NOT TRIGGERED. BUT WHEN WE ADD SQUARE FOOTAGE IT'S TRIGGERED. AND NOW WE HAVE TO -- >> Broky: MY QSTION WAS HAVE YOU DECIDED ON WHICH PROCESS? I KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROCESSES TO DO RETROFITS. >> IT'S VERY, VERY HARD TO GET -- IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A RETROFIT-CERTIFIED STORM SHELTER. THERE'S A LONG PEER REVIEW. YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A VERY, VERY STRONG STRUCTURE THAT WAS OVERBUILT TO BEGIN WITH. >> Bronsky: THE STORM SHELTER YOU'RE PUTTING IN IS GOING TO BE BRAND NEW? >> ON THE FAR LEFT HAND OF THIS SLIDE -- YOU CAN BARELY SEE IT. WE ADDED A WHOLE END OF THE BUILDING TO A P&C BANK. THE BACK HAPPEN IS A STORM SHELTER. >> Bronsky: TERRIFIC. I DO BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AND THEY MENTIONED TO ME THAT THERE'S NOT A SINGLE STORM SHELTER OF THIS LEVEL IN THEIR ENTIRE CITY. I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE THESE GETTING PUT IN AND I HOPE, AS WE GO ACROSS THE CITY, WE SEE THESE BEING PUT AT ALL THE FIRE STATIONS. >> WE HAVE STATION 8 -- IT WAS BARELY AT THE BEGINNING OF MY PRESENTATION -- IT'S ONE OF OUR NEXT BOND LEVELS. WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING ONE IN THERE. AND THEN WE'RE TALKING IN THE 2025 BOND, ANOTHER FIRE STATION. AND POSSIBLY A NEW POLICE HQ. ANY FIRST RESPONDERS' BUILDING, THAT'S OUR TRIGGER. THE CITY, HOSPITAL, HEALTHCARE, AND THEN YOU HAVE SCHOOLS. THOSE ARE THE THREE MAIN COMPONENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE STORM SHELTERS. >> Bronsky: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER TONG. >> Tong: I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REGARDING KIND OF A NEW ENERGY SOURCE. I DON'T KNOW IF OUR CITY H COIDER A NEW ENERGY SOURCE LIKE SOLAR PANELS OR MAYBE BATTERIES INSTEAD OF GENERATORS. THERE ARE NEW MATERIALS COMING OUT THAT YOU CAN REPLACE YOUR ROOF SHINGLES WITH SOLAR PANEL SHINGLES, THEY LOOK JUST LIKE SHINGLES AND THEY'RE VERY ENERGY EFFICIENT. IS THAT SOMETHING IN OUR PLAN OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE GENERALLY DO OR DO NOT CONSIDER? >> WE DO HAVE SOLAR PANELS IN PLACE, AS WE SPEAK. I WANT TO SAY IT'S FIVE FACILITIES WE HAVE SOLAR PANELS ON AND EVERY TIME WE LOOK AT A FACILITY, WE LOOK TO SEE IF IT'S RIGHT. THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALWAYS LOOK AT. HONESTLY, I THINK ONE OF OUR THINGS RIGHT NOW IS WE WANT THE BATTERY TECHNOLOGY TO GET BETTER AND IT'S GETTING BETTER BY THE DAY. >> Tong: THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER OLLEY. >> Olley: QUICK QUESTION. UNIVERSAL DESIGN HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP FROM A PRIVATE DEVELOPER PERSPECTIVE. I SEE ELEMENTS IN SOME OF THE THINGS YOU SHOWED, THE PRIVATE BATHROOMS AND WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT IS THERE A PLAN TO LOOK AT THE CITY FACILITIES AND APPLY SOME KIND OF UNIVERSAL DESIGN FRAMEWORK AS WE GO ALONG, RETROFITTING, UP GRADING, REFINISHING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE? >> SO I'LL START OFF WITH INCLUSION AND ADA. I HEARD YOU HAVE CHILDREN ON THE SPECTRUM. I DO TOO SO WE'RE PART OF THE CLUB TOGETHER. WE'VE LOOKED AT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR FACILITIES. WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL THE TRANSITION PLAN. WE'VE ACKNOWLEDGED EVERYTHING WE HAVE WITHIN OUR CITY FACILITIES THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY UP TO THE ADA OR TAS. AND WITHIN THAT PLAN, WE HAVE WHEN WE PLAN TO FIX WHATEVER THAT ISSUE MIGHT BE. IT COULD BE THAT, YOU KNOW, IN 2025 WE PLAN ON DOING A BOND RENOVATION ON THIS. THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD GET TO IT. OR WHEN THE NEXT TIME WE WOULD LOOK AT THIS FACILITY. SAY IT WAS SOMETNG THA W ONLY RENOVATED TEN YEARS AGO WOULD BE THE NEXT TIME WE WOULD DO IT. BUT A LOT OF THEM WE DO LOOK AT. IF IT'S A SMALLER RESTROOM, LIKE THIS BUILDING WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND RENOVATED ALL THE RESTROOMS. IT'S A BUILDING BY BUILDING AND IT'S USUALLY DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT. WE OBVIOUSLY WORK MORE HAND IN HAND WITH MORE PUBLIC-FACING DEPARTMENTS LIKE LIBRARIES AND PARKS AND REC AND THE REC CENTER. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE BUILDING USE BUT, YEAH, WE DEFINITELY... >> Olley: THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Olley: THANK YOU SO MUCH. . >> THANK YOU. I THINK DAN'S AFTER ME. >> DAN PRENDERGAST, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS HERE TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF OUR 23-24 CIP. WE'VE GOT A TOTAL OF 109 PROJECTS AND A FUNDING OF JUST UNDER $99 MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR. WE HAVE THREE MAIN PROJECT TYPES THAT WE DO. STREET IMPROVEMENTS ARE OUR LARGEST PIECE. WE HAVE WATER AND WASTEWATER AS WELL. WHEN YOU LOOK AT STREET FUNDING THERE'S TWO MAIN AVENUES THAT WE HAVE. THAT'S BOND FUNDING, JUST UNDER $56 MILLION, AND CMF FOR A TOTAL OF $87.4 MILLION. I'M GOING TO START FIRST WITH THE BOND PROJECTS. WE HAVE TWO MAIN TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. WE'VE GOT THE ARTERIAL CONCRETE REPAIR AND OVERLAY PROJECTS SCHEDULED AT $28.5 MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR. THESE ARE PROJECTS WHERE WE GO THROUGH ON A LARGE STRETCH OF ROAD AND REPLACE ALL THE DAMAGED CONCRETE AND PROVIDE A THREE QUARTER INCH THIN OVERLAY TO PROTECT THAT CONCRETE AND KEEP WATER FROM GETTING IN THE JOINTS AND DAMAGING THE SUBADE. ON THE MAP HERE, HERE'S WHERE WE HAVE BEEN, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING WHEN IT COMES TO ARTERIAL OVERLAYS. THE AREA IN GRAY HAVE BEEN OVERLAID ALREADY. THE BIG PROJECTS WE HAD THIS LAST YEAR WERE COIT, LEGACY, AND PLANO PARKWAY. THE AREAS IN GREEN WILL BE OVERLAID HERE IN ABOUT A MONTH OR SO. THAT'S PART OF THIS YEAR'S CIP BUT MOVES INTO NEXT YEAR'S CIP. THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS WE BID. WE HAVE HEDGCOXE AND COIT TO CUSTER, PARKER ROAD UP TO PARKWOOD BOULEVARD. ON THE EAST WE HAVE PARKER TO SPRING CREEK. SO A LOT OF OVERLAYS ARE GOING DOWN THIS YEAR. AND THEN IN THE ORANGE A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR A YEAR NOW. WE HAVE ALL TALKED ABOUT PARKER ROAD. WE DID AN EAST AND WEST PROJECT AND HAD IT FILLED IN WITH A WATER MAIN PROJECT THAT CALEB IS WORKING ON. AS THOSE PROJECTS MOVE INWARD NEXT YEAR WE'LL DO MORE OVERLAYS. PLANO PARKWAY IS GNG ON RIGHT NOW. WE JUST BID INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY IN TWO SECTIONS TO GET IT DONE FASTER. THAT WILL BE AN OVERLAY IN THE FUTURE. I PUT LEGACY IN BLUE AND PARK IN BLUE AS WELL BECAUSE THOSE ARE ON THE CIP BUT WE HAVE TO FINISH HEDGCOXE FIRST FOR LEGACY SO THAT'S THE PLAN. THE MAP COVERS THE CITY OF PLANO AS WELL. EVERYONE GETS TO EXPERIENCE THE NEW ROADWAYS. THE OTHER BIG COMPONENTS FOR THE BOND PROGRAM IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET AND ALLEY REHAB. THESE ARE PROJECTS WHERE WE GO IN A ONE MILE ZONE AND REPAIR THE DAMAGED STREET CONCRETE, SIDEWALK CONCRETE, AND ALLEY CONCRETE SO EVERY PIECE OF PAVEMENT GETS THE MAINTENANCE IT NEEDS. THEY GO STREET BY STREET. THIS MAP HERE SHOWS ALL OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN GREEN. IN RED ARE NEXT YEAR'S PLANNED PROJECTS. A LOT OF THE GREEN PROJECTS HAVE BEEN GOING ON NOW FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS AND WILL PROBABLY FALL OFF NEXT FISCAL YEAR BUT WE'RE KIND OF IN THAT PEAK MOMENT IN THE BOND [LAPSE IN AUDIO] THAT'S DONE WITH THE WORK ORDER-BASED PROJECT. WE ALSO HAVE JOINT SEALING AND UNDER SEALING AND SCREENING WALLS. IF A CAR HITS A PANEL IN A SCREENING WALL, PLIC WORKS REPLACES IT. IF THE FOUNDATION IS IN BAD SHAPE AND IT'S LEANING OR CRACKED, IT GOES TO CALEB FOR A FULL REPLACEMENT. THAT'S HOW THAT PROJECT WORKS. ALSO IN CMF FUNDING WE HAVE TRAFFIC ITEMS, PAVEMENT MARKINGS BUTTONS STREET LIGHTING, TRAFFIC GUARDRAILS AND TRAFFIC SIGN REPLACEMENT. NEXT WILL BE OUR WATER PROJECTS AT JUST OVER $6 MILLION. ONE OF THE BIGGER ITEMS HERE IS THE WATER SYSTEM INSPECTIONS. IT'S ABOUT $2 MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR. SOME OF OUR VERY, VERY LARGE DIAMETER WATER MAINS ARE IN THAT 30, 40-YEAR TIME-FRAME. IT'S TIME TO INSPECT THEM AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SEEING THESE AS A FAILURE. IF ONE OF THOSE FAILS, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO KEEP WATER IN THE CITY. WE'RE STARTING THAT INSPECTION PROGRAM NEXT YEAR WITH NORTH TEXAS AND IT'S ABOUT $2 MILLION FOR 10 MILES OF WATER MAIN. WE ALSO HAVE THINGS LIKE CORP. INVESTIGATIONS AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT LOOK AT THE HEALTH OF OUR WATER SYSTEM LIKE LEAK DETECTION , PUMP STATION AND REHAB AS WELL. ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS MAKE UP THAT $6 LLION FOR OUR WATER CIP. FINALLY IS WASTEWATER. IT'S A $5.4 MILLION. THIS REALLY FALLS IN LINE WITH OUR CAPACITY MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE PLAN. THIS LOOKS AT THE HEALTH OF OUR SEWER SYSTEM. THE PICTURE YOU SEE HERE IS OUR STAFF GOING AND TING A SEWER MAIN AND IT GOES INTO OUR MANAGEMENT ASSET SYSTEM AND WE KNOW WHICH MAINS NEED TO BE REPLACED AND WHEN . WE DO INI. IF YOU HAVE STORM WATER GETTING INTO YOUR SEWER SYSTEM YOU HAESS CACITY TO HOLD SEWER. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THE MANHOLES LIDS ARE DOWN, YOU DON'T HAVE A CRACKED PIPE BECAUSE THAT CAUSES US TO HAVE TO BUILD BIGGER PIPES, WHICH IS MORE EXPENSIVE FOR THE CITY. IT'S REALLY A COMPREHENSIVE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM THAT WE DO AT THE $5.4 MILLION CIP FOR NEXT YEAR. WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BROUNOFF. >> Brounoff: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU'VE IDENTIFIED $99 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS FOR THIS YEAR? I THINK THAT WAS THE FIGURE. >> YES. >> Brounoff: THE SUMMARY WE RECEIVED FROM THE STAFF ON THIS AGENDA ITEM DESCRIBES THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM AS A FIVE-YEAR GUIDE TO PLANNING BUILDING OPERATING AND MAINTAINING CAPITAL PROJECTS. HOW DOES YOUR $99 MILLION OVER ONE YEAR RELATE TO A FIVE-YEAR GUIDE PLAN? >> I HAVEN'T SEEN THE PACKET. BUT IN THE BUDGET THAT WE PUBLISH, WE HAVE A FIVE-YEAR PLAN AND WE HAVE SEVERAL ROADS PLANNED OUT FOR THE FUTURE. I'VE GOT FUTURE NEIGHBORHOOD ZONES THAT ARE ON THIS MAP FOR Y. I'VE GOT OTHER STREETS AS WELL THAT ARE NOT ON THIS MAP THAT ARE FOR YEARS TWO, THREE, AND FOUR. THIS DISCUSSION IS FOR NEXT YEAR'S CIP AND THAT'S WHERE THE $99 MILLION CAME IN. >> Brounoff: ARE YOU EXPECTING ALL THESE PROJECTS TO BE DONE THIS YEAR OR DO YOU EXPECT SOME OF THEM TO CARRY OVER DURING YEARS TWO, THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE? >> MANY OF THEM CARRY OVER. ON THE MAP I SHOWED FOR THE ARTERIAL PROJECT HERE, PARKER ROAD WAS ON LAST YEAR'S CIP AND IT WILL BE ON NEXT YEAR'S CIP. INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY WILL HAVE AN OVERLAY IN FUTURE CIP YEARS. SO IT'S ALL KIND OF COORDINATED TOGETHER. WE LOOK AT THE FUTURE PROJECTS AND WE LOOK AT THE TIME-FRAME. FOR ONE OF MY PROJECTS, MOST CONTRACTORS BILL ABOUT $200,000 A MONT. I KNOW BASED ON THE VALUE OF THE PROJECT ABOUT HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE US. IT CAN VARY, 250 TO 150. >> Brounoff: THE $99 MILLION IS NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE SPENT THIS YEAR. SOME OF THAT MIGHT CARRY OVER WITH THE PROJES THAT IT'S FUNDING. >> IT'S PLANNED FOR THIS YEAR. THERE'S OTHER MONEY PLANNED FOR FUTURE YEARS AS WELL. IF WE GET EVERYTHING DONE THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO THIS YEAR, IT'S $99 MILLION. IF WE DON'T, SOME OF THAT ROLLS INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. IT'S VERY AGGRESSIVE BUT THAT IS PLANNED FOR NEXT YEAR OR THIS 23-24 FISCAL YEAR. >> Brounoff: I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THE TOTAL ANNUAL CITY BUDGET IS AT THIS POINT. >> A LOT. [LAUGHTER] >> Chair Downs: I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU ATTEND THE CITY COUNCIL'S BUDGET HEARING, WHICH TAKES PLACE ON A SATURDAY IN SEPTEMBER. YOU WILL SEE THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION. >> OUR BUDGET, JUST EVEN FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO FOR PUBLIC WORKS, WAS ABOUT $30 MILLION FOR STREETS. THEN WE DID THE PLAN IN 2019 TO LOOK AT WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO TO MAINTAIN THE STREETS. AND FIGURED IT WAS ABOUT $90 MILLION A YEAR ON THE PUBLIC WORKS SIDE. THEN WE WENT TO THE BOND PROGRAM AND THE BOND PROGRAM APPROVED $100 MILLION FOR THE ARTERIAL CONCRETE REPAIR AND OVERLAY. $70MILLION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD REHAB. THAT WAS PUBLIC WORKS. CALEB HAS A BIG PART OF THAT AS WELL. WITH THE BOND OGRAM. IN 2021 THIS IS THE EXECUTION OF THAT BOND PROGRAM. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER BRONSKY. >> Bronsky: I WAS REALLY HOPING NOT TO ASK A QUESTION. BUT YOU MENTIONED ONE THING AND I JUST HAD -- IT POPPED INTO MY HEAD. SO IN JUNE OF 2023, PROSPER RAN INTO SOME PROBLEMS WITH 30 MANHOLE COVERS BEING REMOVED. AND I NOTICED THAT YOU MENTIONED MANHOLES ON HERE. IS THERE ANYTHING WE'RE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS DON'T DISAPPEAR AND PROVIDE A PUBLIC HEALTH DISASTER? >> THERE'S NOTHING ACTIVE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVEN'T HAD AN ISSUE WITH THAT. WE DO LOCK MANHOLES IN CERTAIN CASES BUT NOT ALL ARE LOCKED. SO IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU ARE, WHEN THE MANHOLE WAS INSTALLED. IF THERE IS AN ISSUE, WE WOULD ADDRESS IT VERY QUICKLY, OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. TYPICALLY THEY'RE ON STREETS. SO IF A CAR IS DRIVING, YOU DON'T WANT TO RUN YOUR TIRE INTO A MANHOLE. >> Bronsky: THEY SAID THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY BUT THEY HAVEN'T CAUGHT ANYBODY& EITHER. WHEN YOU MENTIONED MANHOLES, I JUST WONDERED IF WE HAD NOTICED WHAT WAS GOING ON UP THERE AND THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT DO TO -- >> I HAVEN'T HEARD OF THAT. >> Bronsky: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR WORK. >> THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER OLLEY. >> Olley: QUICK QUESTION. IT MIGHT TOUCH COMMISSIONER BROUNOFF'S QUESTION A BIT. I FORGET THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME FROM ENGINEERING, ASSURED A LOT OF OUR WORK WAS IN THE OLDER PART OF THE CITY. WHAT'S THE PENDING LIFE FOR WHAT WE'LL CONSIDER THE NEWER PART OF THE CITY? IF WE'RE ADDRESSING WHAT WAS DONE 20 YEARS AGO NOW, WHICH PROBABLY LENDS TO THE AMOUNTS WE HAVE SEEN ON THE SCREEN, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT IS COMING DUE. WHEN IS THAT NEXT WAVE? >> RLLYENTRAL PNO RIGHT NOW IS ONE OF THE WORST AREAS WHEN IT COMES TO OUR STREETS. EAST PLANO AS WELL. ALL THE AREAS NEED THE MAINTENANCE TECHNIQUE. I ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER PROJECTS AND I CAN'T FIX EVERY ROAD IN CENTRAL PLANO. WE HAVE PARKS PROJECTS, SCREENING WALL PROJECTS. WE LOOK AT HOW EVERYTHING IS ALIGNED AND FIND THE BEST USE OF OUR FUNDS AT THE TIME THAT WE HAVE THEM TO BE ABLE TO SEQUENCE THESE THINGS IN THE FUTURE AS WELL. IF YOU LOOK AT AN OVERLAY MAP HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT RIGHT NOW SPRING CREEK IS A GAP AND THAT IS A PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. I'M GOING TO DO PARKER ROAD, LEGACY, AND SPRING CREEK WILL COME ALONG LATER ON. ON THE SOUTH SIDE I CAN'T DO PLANO PARKWAY YET BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME SEWER PROJECTS. PLANO PARKWAY MIGHT NEED IT SOONER BUT I DON'T WANT TO INVEST IT IN THE OVERLAY AND CONCRETE AND TEAR IT UP IN THE SEWER PROJECT. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ORGANIZED WITH HOW WE'RE DOING THINGS. >> Olley: WELL SAID. THANK YOU. >> SURE. >> Chair Downs: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, DAN. >> QUICKLY IN CLOSING, THESE LAST SLIDES SUMMARIZE OUR ANALYSIS OF HOW THE CIP PROJECTS ARE ALIGNED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FACILITIES PLAN AND INFRASTRUCTURE POLICY. STARTING WITH PARKS, THE MAJORITY ADDRESS PRIORITIES A, B, AND D WHICH ARE CRITICAL REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS, PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE, AND PROMOTING MASTER PLAN STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES. FOR ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS, THE TOP PRIORITY ADDRESSED IS A, CRITICAL REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS FOLLOWED BY PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE. AND FOR FACILITIES, THE VAST MAJORITY SUPPORT THE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PRIORITY FOLLOWED BY ADDRESSING CRITICAL REPAIRS AND TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS. AND SO IN SUMMARY, 420 PROJECTS WERE EVALUATED IN TOTAL AND ALL PROJECTS ALIGN WITH ONE OR MORE PRIORITIES OF THE FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE POLICY. THIS CHART SHOWS THOSE PRIORITIES IN TOTAL. AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION STAFF RECOMMENDS PROPOSED COMMUTY INVESTMENT PROGRAM FOR THE 2023-24 BUDGET YEAR AS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> Chair Downs: DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? MR. RATLIFF. >> Ratliff: ONE THAT I DIDN'T HEAR COVERED. THERE'S ONE LINE ITEM IN HERE FOR PUBLIC ART. OBVIOUSLY HAS A VERY SPECIFIC PROJECT. WHOSE DEPARTMENT IS THAT IN AND -- JUST CURIOUS. >> THAT FALLS INTO A NON-DEPARTMENTAL PROJECT -- I THINK WE HAVE JASON. IS THAT -- >> I'M JASON FROM THE BUDGET AND RESEARCH DEPARTMENT. THAT PROJECT IS ACTUALLY FOR A CONSULTANT CONTRACT THAT IS SPLIT BETWEEN PUBLIC ART AND THEN ALSO WITHIN THE OPERATING BUDGET. IT'S FOR A CONSULTANT FOR THE ARTS MASTER PLANNING FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA. >> Ratliff: OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER CARY. >> Cary: YEAH, IN THE PRESENTATION ONE OF THE LINE ITEMS WERE LAND ACQUISITION. I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW MUCH OF OUR OVERALL BUDGET IS BEING DEDICATED TO THAT AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, JUST AT A HIGH LEVEL. >> I DON'T HAVE THE BREAKDOWN FOR LAND ACQUISITION IN OUR ANALYSIS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN -- >> Cary: IS IT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF WHAT WE'RE DOING? >> I'M NOT SURE. WE CAN LOOK THAT UP THOUGH. >> Cary: THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: OKAY. THANK YOU VERYUCH. COMMISSIONER BRONSKY. >> Bronsky: I MOVE WE ACCEPT THIS AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND. >> Chair Downs: I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARY TO APPROVE THE CIP PLAN AS PRESENTED. PLEASE VOTE. THAT ITEM CARRIES 8-0. THANK YOU, CITY STAFF. YOU GUYS KEEP US A CITY OF EXCELLENCE. SERIOUSLY, WE APPRECIATE YOU A GREAT DEAL. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM 9. >> NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS: T PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT LIMITED PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA, AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY, AND MAY INCLUDE A TOTAL TIME LIMIT. AGENDA ITEM NO. 9. DISCUSSION AND ACTION: CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING - REQUEST TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT-124- NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE ON 7.1 ACRE LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY, 810 FEET NORTHOF 15TH STREET. APPLICANT: ABBEYGATE CORPORATIO THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONS. >> THIS CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING IS TO AMEND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 134 MAYBE OFFICE TO AMEND THE ALLOWED USES TO INCLUDE HEALTH AND FITNESS CENTER. THE COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO INITIATE THE ZONING REQUEST. THE APPROVAL ALLOWS THE APPLICANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND SUBMIT THE ZONING PETITION WHICH WILL FOLLOW THE NORMAL SCHEDULE AND PROCESS FOR ZONING CASES BUT DOES NOT IMPLY THE COMMISSION'S SUPPORT OR LACK OF SUPPORT FOR THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CALL A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> Chair Downs: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING BUT DOES ANYONE WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS ISSUE? >> THEY PUT DOWN THAT THEY ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. >> Bronsky: I MOVE WE CALL A PUBLIC HEARING. >> Chair Downs: NOT A QUESTION. SURPRISE. >> SECOND. >> Chair Downs: OKAY. SO WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LISLE TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING PER RECOMMENDATION BY STAFF. THAT PASSES 8-0. MY SINCERE APOLOGIES. IT'S YOU? OKAY. I DIDN'T EXPECT -- I SHOULD HAVE LOOKED FURTHER DOWN THE LIST. THANK YOU FOR HANGING OUT SO LONG. >> AGENDA ITEM NO. 4. PUBLIC HEARING: ZONING CASE 2023-011 - REQUEST TO AMEND ARTICLE 15 ( REGULATIONS) AND RELATED SECTIONS OF THE ZONING ORDINANC TO AMEND BACKYARD COTTAGE REGULATIONS TO ENSURE COMPLIANC WITH FEDERAL LAW AFTER A RECENT LEGAL DECISION. PETITIONER: CITY OF PLANO. THIS IS FOR LEGI. >> Chair Downs: BEFORE YOU GET STARTED -- >> I FILED THE NECESSARY PAPERWORK TO RUSE MYSELF FROM TH. I DO NOT HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THIS, HOWEVER I DO OWN A BACKYARD COTTAGE. IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY, I THINK IT'S BEST THAT I RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS. WHICH ITEM ARE YOU HERE FOR? 1 AND 2? THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN HEARD AND DEALT WITH. >> I HAVEN'T BEEN HEARD. [OFF MIC] >> Chair Downs: 1A AND 1B WAS DEALT WITH, I DON'T KNOW, AN HOUR AND A HALF AGO. >> [OFF MIC] >> 1B AND 1C. [OFF MIC] >> THAT WAS A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN VOTED ON AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. >> Chair Downs: SO WE'RE GOING TO LET HER DEAL WITH THAT AND YOU GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO REMOVE REGULATIONS FOR BACKYARD COTTAGES THAT DO NOT COMPLY WITH THE 2022 DECISION STARK V. CITY OF NEW ORLEANS. THIS RULING FROM THE FIFTH CIRCUIT FROM THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOUND THAT REQUIRING THE OWNERS OF RESIDENTIAL RENTAL PROPERTIES TO RESIDE ON THE SAME PROPERTY AS THE RENTAL IS IN VIOLATION OF THE DORMANT COMMERCE CLAUSE . THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CALLED A PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE REGARDING THIS CASE ON JUNE 5, 2023. BACKYARD COTTAGES ARE CURRENTLY SUBJECT TO THE USE-SPECIFIC REGULATIONS DETAILED IN SECTION 15.1800 OF ARTICLE 15 IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE. THE CURRENT REGULATIONS REQUIRE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER MUST OCCUPY EITHER THE MAIN DWELLING UNIT OR THE BACKYARD COTTAGE AS A PERMANENT RESIDENCE. STAFF IS PROPOSING TO AMEND SECTION 15.1800 TO REMOVE THE OWNER OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT. THIS REQUEST IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, LAND USE ACTION ONE, NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION ACTIONS 1, 5, AND 6, AND THE SPECIAL HOUSING 5 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. STAFF RECOMMENDS THIS FOR APPROVAL. NO RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED FOR THIS ITEM. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? >> WE DO NOT. >> ChairownsTHANK YOU. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE DISCUSSION TO THE COMMISSION. MR. BROUNOFF. >> Brounoff: I THINK IT'S NECESSARY FOR US TO APPROVE THIS FOR LEGAL REASONS. THEREFORE, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM 4 AS SHOWN IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> SECOND. >> Chair Downs: I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BROUNOFF WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OLLEY TO APPROVE ITEM 4 AS SHOWN IN THE STAFF REPORT. PLEASE VOTE. OKAY. THAT ITEM CARRIES 7-0 WITH COMMISSIONER RATLIFF RECUSING HIMSELF. ITEM 5A. WE SHOULD BE ON A. >> AGENDA 5A. PUBLIC HEARING: ZONING CASE 2023-012 - REQUEST TO AMEND VARIOUS SECTIONS OF TH ZONING ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO RECENT STATE LEGISLATIVE ACTION AND TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW. PETITIONER: CITY OF THIS IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDE. ADJACENT WITH THAT ITEM, WE HAVE AGENDA NO. 5B. PUBLIC HEARING: SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 2023-002 - REQUEST TO AMEND VARIOUS SECTIONS OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO RECENT STATE LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS AND T ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LA PETITIONER: CITY OF PLANO. THIS IS FOR LEGISLATIVE CONSIDE. >> THE PURPOSE OF THESE REQUESTS IS TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE TO ALIGN WITH RECENTLY-ADOPTED TAS USE AND SENATE BILLS. THE 88th TEXAS LEGISLATURE PASSED HOUSE BILL 2127. HOUSE BILL 3699 AND SENATE BILL 929 WHICH REQUIRES ORDINANCE UPDATES. 2127 AND 3699 GO INTO EFFECT SEPTEMBER 1 WHILE SENATE BILL 929 BECAME EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. ADDITIONALLY, UPDATES TO RECENT LEGAL STANDARDS AND GENERAL PRACTICE IN THE STATE HAVE PROMPTED STAFF TO REVISIT CHANGES STEMMING FROM HOUSE BILL 4239. THE MATERIALS BILL FROM THE 86th TEXAS LEGISLATURE. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CALLED A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES PERTAINING TO THE LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS ON JUNE 5, 2023. HOUSE BILL 2127 SEEKS TO PROVIDE STATEWIDE CONSISTENCY IN REGULATING COMMERCE BY RETURNING REGULATORY POWERS TO THE STATE BY PROHIBITING A MUNICIPALITY FROM ADOPTING, ENFORCING, OR MAINTAINING AN ORDINANCE, ORDER, OR RULE TT REGULATES CONDUCT IN A FIELD OF REGULATION IN CERTAIN STATE CODES. THE BILL ALSO DEFINES A PROCESS FOR WHICH A CLAIMANT. -- WHICH IS IN VIOLATION OF ANY OF THOSE CODES . HOWEVER, PERSONS BRINGING CLAIMS AGAINST MUNICIPALITIES MUST PROVIDE NOTICE OF THE CLAIM 90 DAYS BEFORE BRINGING SUIT. THIS ALLOWS MUNICIPALITIES AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPEAL OR AMEND EXISTING REGULATIONS TO CONFORM TO STATE LAW DURING THIS TIME. TIME FRAMES FOR ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS ARE RESTRICTED DUE TO STATE AND CITY NOTICING REQUIREMENTS AND A STIPULATION IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE CURRENTLY PROHIBITING A PUBLIC HEARING FROM BEING HELD BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WITHIN 36 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF FILING OF A ZONING PETITION. THIS REQUIREMENT MEANS IT TYPICALLY TAKES 58 DAYS FROM THE CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO A HEARING AT CITY COUNCIL. AND THE CITY THEREFORE HAS ONLY 32 DAYS TO DECIDE ON WHAT ACTION TO TAKE, IF ANY, AFT RECEIVING NOTICE OF THE ACTION AGAINST THE CITY. THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSES TO REMOVE THAT 36-DAY REQUIREMENT FROM THE ZONING ORDINANCE, REDUCING THE TYPICAL TIME-FRAME FROM THE CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING TO CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING TO 43 DAYS WHICH INCREASES THE TIME FOR ANALYSIS OF THIS SUIT WHILE STILL PROVIDING FOR THE REQUIRED PUBLIC NOTICE. SB929 ADDS AN ADDITIONAL NOTICE STANDARD FOR ZONING CHANGES THAT MAY RESULT IN AN EXISTING USE BECOMING NON-CONFORMING. ADDITIONALLY, IT PROVIDES FOR AN AMORTIZATION AND APPEAL PROCESS IF A NON-CONFORMING USE IS REQUIRED TO STOP OPERATING BY THE MUNICIPALITY. THE ADDITIONAL NOTICING REQUIREMENT IS PROPOSED TO BE ADDED TO ARTICLE 4 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. ADDITIONALLY, LANGUAGE IN ARTICLE 7 REGARDING CONTINUANCE OF NON-CONFORMING USE IS PROPOSED TO BE SIMPLIFIED AND MADE CLEAR. DUE TO THE COMPLEXITY OF AMORTIZATION, STAFF NEEDS ADDITIONAL TIME TO REFINE THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE CHANGES AND IS PROPOSING TO CALL A PUBC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE RELATED TO SB929 AS A SEPARATE ZONING CASE. HOUSE BILL 2439 WAS PASSED IN 2019 BY THE 86th TEXAS LEGISLATURE. THE BILL RESTRICTED MUNICIPALITIES FROM PROHIBITING ANY BUILDING PRODUCT OR MATERIAL ALLOWED BY A NATIONAL MODEL CODE PUBLISHED WITHIN THE LAST THREE CODE CYCLES. HOWEVER, EXCEPTIONS DID APPLY INCLUDING LANDMARKS AND DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND BUILDINGS LOCATED IN A ACE OR AREA DESIGNATED FOR HISTORICAL CULTURAL OR ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE UNDER ZONING. AS THE BILLS WERE STILL BEING DEBATED, PLANO FOCUSED ON ADOPTING MITIGATING REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING PROVIDING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE INCENTIVE IF DEVELOPERS OR OWNERS CHOSE TO FOLLOW MATERIAL STANDARDS. ELIMINATING REGULATIONS WHERE THERE WAS NO EXCEPTION TO THE BI. IN THE YEAR SINCE THIS BILL BECAME EFFECTIVE, MOST CITIES HAVE CHOSEN TO ALLOW ONLY WHAT MATERIALS ARE ALLOWED UNDER CODE AND HAVE NOT ADOPTED SIMILAR REGULATIONS TO PLANO REGARDING INCENTIVES OR ARCHITECTURAL OR CULTURAL DISTRICTS. FURTHER, THE INCENTIVE OPTIONS ADOPTED HAVE PROVEN DIFFICULT FOR REDEVELOPMENT SITES TO MEET BUT RATHER MORE APPROPRIATE FOR A GREEN FILL DEVELOPMENT. STAFF IS PROPOSING TO REMOVE STANDARDS FROM THE ZONING ORDINANCE ADDED IN 2019, INCLUDING ARTICLE 23 AS WELL AS THE ASSOCIATED INCENTIVE OPTI. THE MATERIAL STANDARDS AND FACADE PLANS REQUIRED WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT AS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS ARE CONSIDERED ARCHITECTURALLY AND CULTURAL SIGNIFICANT. FURTHER, HERITAGE DISTRICT REGULATIONS WILL CONTINUE TO APPLY TO LOCAL LANDMARKS AND HERITAGE DISTRICTS. HB 3699 CHANGES CHAPTER 212 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. THIS BILL PROHIBITS A MUNICIPALITY FROM REQUIRING THE DEDICATION OF A FUTURE STREET OR ALLEY NOT INTENDED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER AND INCLUDED AND FUNDED IN A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WHICH IMPACTS REGULATIONS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. AS CURRENT PRACTICE IS TO REQUIRE STREET DEDICATION AT THE TIME OF PLATTING, WITHOUT SPECIFIC STANDARDS NOW REQUIRED BY THE STATE. ADDITIONALLY, THE BILL ALLOWS PLAT APPROVAL AUTHORITY TO BE DELEGATED TO STAFF AND STRIKES THE WORD PLAN FROM MANY AREAS OF THE STATUTE. HELPING TO REMOVE POTENTIAL AMBIGUITY OVER WHETHER PLAT DEADLINES APPLY TO SITE PLANS AND LANDSCAPE PLANS. THE SUBDIVISIONRDINANCE IS PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED TO COMPLY WITH NEW STREET DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS. THE PLAT CHANGES NEED ADDITIONAL TIME FOR ANALYSIS SO STAFF IS PROPOSING TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING TO INITIATE ADDITIONAL CHANGES TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE RELATED TO HB 3699 AS A SEPARATE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE CASE. THE CHANGES ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND LAND USE ACTION ONE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND FOR ITEM 5A, STAFF ANZONING COMMISSION CALL ANG ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER FURTHER ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS INCLUDING AMENDMENTS RELATED TO SB 929 AND TO APPROVE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS AS SHOWN IN THE STAFF REPORT. NO RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED FOR THIS ITEM. AND FOR ITEM 5B, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CALL A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER FURTHER SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS RELATED TO HB 3699, INCLUDING CONSIDERATION OF EXTENDING CERTAIN PLAT APPROVAL AUTHORITY TO STAFF AS PERMITTED UNDER THE BILL. AND TO APPROVE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS AS SHOWN IN THE STAFF REPORT. NO RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED FOR THIS ITEM EITHER AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER CARY. >> Cary: YES. SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IF THIS MOVES FORWARD THEN WOULD PLAT APPROVAL MOVE FROM THIS COMMISSION TO STAFF AND WE WOULD NO LONGER BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PLAT APPROVAL. IS THAT THE DIRECTION HERE? >> SO NOT WITH THIS CASE. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE BILL ALLOWS BUT WE HAVE NOT PROPOSED AT THIS TIME. WEREROPOSING TO CALL AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING SO THAT WE CAN FURTHER ANALYZE OUR CURRENT PLAT PROCESSES AND WHAT THAT KIND OF CHANGE WOULD IMPACT. >> Cary: GREAT. THANK YOU. >> Chair Downs: COMMISSIONER RATLIFF. >> Ratliff: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. JUST TO REPEAT SOMETHING YOU SAID AND IS ALSO IN THE REPORT, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THE BUILDING MATERIALS -- CHANGES TO THE BUILDING MATERIALS BILL WILL NOT ALTER THE HERITAGE DISTRICTS. WE WILL STILL HAVE FULL ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL AS WE DO NOW IN THE HERITAGE DISTRICTS. >> ANY REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THOSE WOULD STILL APPLY. >> Ratliff: THANK YOU. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. >> Chair Downs: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL OPEN IT. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON 5A OR 5B? >> NO, WE DO NOT. >> Chair Downs: THERE'S NO ONE LEFT. OKAY. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THESE ARE KIND OF UNIQUE RECOMMENDATIONS AND AFTER DISCUSSING WITH LEGAL HERE, I'M GOING TO MANAGE THE MOTIONS, JUST SO THAT IT HELPS MAYBE CLEAR THINGS UP A LITTLE BIT. FOR ITEM 5A, I MOVE WE CALL A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER FURTHER ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS INCLUDING AMENDMENTS RELATED TO SB 929. >> SECOND. >> Chair Downs: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY THE CHAIR WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RATLIFF. DO WE HAVE A QUESTION, MR. BROUNOFF? >> Brounoff: NO, I JUST WANT TO STATE I THINK IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT WE'RE IN A POSITION OF HAVING TO DO THIS. I DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY BUT THE LEGISLATURE HAS MADE IT NECESSARY. SO I WILL RELUCTANTLY VOTE FOR IT. >> Chair Downs: THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 5A. PLEASE VOTE. THAT ITEM CARRIES 8-0. WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER MOTION ON ITEM 5A. IN THIS CASE, IT IS TO APPROVE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. WE NEED TO DO MORE OF A HAND VOTE OR DO YOU WANT TO REDO A? >> [OFF MIC] >> SECOND. >> Chair Downs: SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR PART TWO OF ITEM 5A TO APPROVE THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF BY CHAIR DOWNS WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKY. PLEASE VOTE. THAT ITEM CARRIES 8-0. LET ME GET TO 5B. OKAY. SO FOR ITEM 5B, I MOVE WE CALL A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER FURTHER SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS RELATED TO HB 3699 INCLUDING CONSIDERATION OF EXTENDING CERTAIN PLAT APPROVAL AUTHORITY TO STAFF AS PERMITTED UNDER THE BILL. >> SECOND. >> Chair Downs: WE HAVE A MOTION BY THE CHAIR WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKY TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING UNDER ITEM 5B. PLEASE VOTE. THAT ITEM CARRIES 8-0. >> [OFF MIC] >> Chair Downs: I MOVE WE APPROVE THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF UNDER ITEM 5B. >> SECOND. >> Chair Downs: WE HAVE A MOTION BY THE CHAIR WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRONSKY TO APPROVE THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE UNDER SECTION 5B. PLEASE VOTE. THAT ITEM ALSO CARES 8-0. I BELIEVE THAT COVERS OUR TOPICS FOR TONIGHT, OTHER THAN ITEM 10, ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDAS. ANYBODY RECOMMENDATIONS? NOT AT THIS POINT? VERY GOOD. WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 10:12. THANK YOU.