>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. I CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER. MR. GRANDOFF ADMIRING THE TROPHY. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. >>LUIS VIERA: HERE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE. >>BILL CARLSON: HERE. >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE. >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T KNOW. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMAN CITRO, IS THIS YOURS? NO? ALL RIGHT. YOUR MOTION. >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE VINCENT LOMBARDI TROPHY ON DISPLAY HERE, AND WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS. HERE THEY COME WITH OUR SUPER BOWL CHAMPION TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS. WE HAVE BRYAN FORD. AND WE HAVE CHIEF BON BENNETT FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL AND PUBLIC. I KNOW COUNCIL HAS A PENDING COMMENDATION THAT THEY WANT TO PICK A FUTURE DATE WITH WORKING WITH THE BUCCANEERS, BUT BRIAN HAD ASKED TO COME DOWNTOWN AND GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AND SOME CITY STAFF TO HAVE INTERACTION WITH THE LOMBARDI SUPER BOWL TROPHY AND OUR TAMPA BAY BUCCANEER CHAMPIONS. SO WITH THAT I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER FOR A FEW MINUTES TO BRIAN, AND THEN COUNSELEL C ENGAGE AND THEN WE HAVE A SPECIAL RECOGNITION WHEN BRIAN IS DONE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY,N- JASON LIGHT, OUR GENERAL MANAGER, OUR HEAD COACH BRUCE ARENS AND OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION. WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU, THE DOWNFALL, AND THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY FOR ALL THE SUPPORT YOU PROVIDED OVER THE LAST YEAR. AND OUR ROAD TO BRINGING BACK THIS LBABARD T TROPHY IN FRONT F THE BEST FANS IN THE NFL AT RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM. IT'S JUST TOTALLY HISTORIC, FIRST-TIME EVER, WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT, AND THE COMMUNITY'S SUPPORT. WE SAID MANY TIMES WE HAVE THE BEST SPORTS FANS IN THE NFL AND TAMPA IS TRULY TAMPA BAY SO WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. AND WE ARE -- I REMEMBER THE FIRST SUPER BOWL AND HOW EXCITING IT WAS, JUST STARTING COLLEGE, AND NOW SEVERAL YEARS LATER, G GLA TO SEE THE LOMBARDI TROPHY RETURNED. ACTUALLY, IT WILL BE OUR SECOND ONE. AND IT'S VERY, VERY EXCITING. TOM BRADY PULLED IT OFF SO WE WANT TO THANK THE POWERS, YOU KNOW, THAT MADE THIS ALL HAPPEN. I'M GLAD THAT TOM BRADY CAME DOWN, AND BROKOWSKI AND THE REST OF THE BUCCANEERS TEAM AND COACHES AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED. THIS IS HISTORIC. THEY WON A SUPER BOWL AT HOME. AND WE WON A STANLEY CUP A FEW MONTHS AGO. SOSO TAMPA IS CHAMPAS VERY, VERY EXCITING. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS? >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF YOU DO NOT MIND, MR. CHAIR. MR. FORD, WE ARE PROUD OF OUR TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS FOR THEIR SUPER BOWL VICTORY. BUT NOT ONLY THAT. YOU COME DOWN AND YOU HELP US SUPPORT OUR OFFICERS, OUR BRAVE WOMEN AND MEN OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT. YOU ALSO COME DOWN AND HONOR OUR BRAVE WOMEN AND MEN OF THE TAMPA FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE BUCCANEERS HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT CHARITIES THAT GO TO HELP THE CITY OF TAMPA AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUR COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU. THANK THE BUCCANEERS. THANK THE OWNERS. NOT ONLY FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT THE ICING ON THE CAKE WHICH IS THAT TROPHY BEHIND YOU. THANK YOU, MR. FORD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMAN GUDES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, AS A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN A BALL COACH AT MANY LEVELS, I UNDERSTAND THE GREATNESS WHEN YOU BECOME A CHAMPION. IT'S A FEELING OF NONE OTHER. A LOT OF TIMES, BECOMING A CHAMPION, THE WORK YOU DO IN THE COMMUNITY, I WAS AT THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING THE FIRST ONE IN EAST TAMPA, BUCCANEERS STEPPED UP. YEARS AGO WHEN SOMEONE STEALING EQUIPMENT FROM OUR YOUTH PROGRAMS, AND SOME OF MY PROGRAMS GOT HIT, THE BUCCANEERS STEPPED UP AND GAVE ME A PHONE CALL, AND THE DISTRICT 3 OFFICE, FOR THE GOOD OF YOUNG PEOEOPL IN OUR COMMUNITIES. SO THOSE ARE THE EFFORTS OF BEING A CHAMPION, NOT JUST ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD BUT OFF THE FOOTBALL FIELD. AND A FACILITY THAT IS UPDATED, A SCOREBOARD, TURF. THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS WHEN YOU BUILD PROGRAMS THAT'S ALL WELL RUN. AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN KEEP THAT COHESIVENESS WITH THE TEAM, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. >> THAT'S THE PLAN. KEEP IT TOGETHER AND LET'S GO FOR TWO. >>BILL CARLSON: I WON'T REPEAT EVERYTHING MY COLLEAGUES SAID. I WILL ECHO THAT. CONGRATS TO YOU AND THE TEAM FOR THE BIG WIN AND FOR ALL THE HARD WORK AND THANKS FOR BRINGING THE SUPER BOWL HERE, AND HOPE WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE SOON, AND CONGRATS FOR RUNNING IT WELL, AND ALSO CONGRATS TO THE CITY AND COUNTY AND EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THAT. BUT ALSO I WANT TO SAY THANKS TO BRIAN, JOEL AND THE GLAZER FAMILY. YOU MENTIONED THEM. BUT THEY MADE A BIG INVESTMENT, WHAT WAS IT, 1995, AND THEY ARE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE GAME AND OUR COMMUNITY, AND THEY HAVE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY OVER THE YEARS, AND PERSONALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING THINGS LIKE THE JCC, AND THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM AND OTHER REALLY IMPORTANT PLACES IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU TO THEM FOR THEIR INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY, TOO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL. IT'S AN HONOR, A TREMENDOUS FAMILY. THEY SET THE STAGE, AND VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THEM. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. AND CHIEF BENNETT, YOU SAID YOU HAD A PRESENTATION, SIR? >>JOHN BENNETT: STAND BY, MR. FORD. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A SURPRISE FOR THEM. DURING THE PLANNING CYCLE AND DURING THE CITY'S PLANNING CYCLE FOR SUPER BOWL 55 WE HAD BIWEEKLY MEETINGS AND THEN WEEKLY MEETINGS, AND HAVING ALL THE PUBLIC SAFETY LEADERS AS WELL AS THE MOBILITY TEAM, THE DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC GROUP, MINORITY BUSINESS GROUP, EVERY FACET THAT THE CITY NEEDED TO HELP US WITH THIS EVENT, WORKING WITH THE BUCCANEERS AND WORKING WITH THE TAMPA SPORTS COMMISSION TO MAKE THIS A SUCCESS, WITH COUNCIL SUPPORT, BUT THERE WAS ALWAYS ONE VOICE IN THE ROOM THAT WAS LOOKING OUT FOR THOSE THAT NEEDED SPECIAL ACCESSIBILITY, AND THAT WAS RACK WELL PONCHELL. THERE WASN'T AN EVENT THAT SHE DIDN'T GRAB THE MIKE AND SAY WHAT ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY FOR THIS EVENT? AND IT DIDN'T MATTER WHERE THE FOOTPRINT WAS, WHETHER IT W WAS OPEN SPACE OR CONTROLLED SPACE, RAQUEL CONN CONSISTENTLY LOOKED OUT AS OUR ADA AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES COORDINATOR. SHE MADE SURE EVERY SINGLE EVENT WAS ACCESSIBLE TO ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO ENJOY THE EVENTS IN AND SURROUNDING SUPER BOWL 55. SO WITH THAT, MR. FORD HAS A SPECIAL PRESENTATION FOR RAQUEL, AND I THINK THIS WOULD APPEAL T, WE TALK ABOUT IMPACT PLAYERS. I KNOW COUNCILMAN VIERA TALKS A LOT ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ADA ACCESSIBLE IN OUR PARKS AND OUR COMMUNITIES AND OUR STREETS. AND SO RAQUEL IS THE CHAMPION OF THAT AND I THINK SHE WAS AN UNSUNG HERO IN THIS AND I THINK SHE REALLY DESERVES THIS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I ALWAYS TRULY APPRECIATE MAYOR CASTOR'S AND CHIEF BENNETT ADA ACCESS. THE DEDICATION TO ACCESS DOESN'T START ON THE GROUND LEVEL, IT ACTUALLY STARTS TO DOWN, AND WHEN THE TOP ADMINISTRATORS BELIEVE IN ACCESS FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES, ACCESS TRULY HAPPENS, BECAUSE THEY INSTILL THE MESSAGE TO THE TEAM. SO I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FOR YOU, MAYOR CASTOR, AND ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES WHO REQUEST FOR SOME ASSISTANCE, BUT IF IT WEREN'T FOR ALL THE HELP TH THE CITY WE REALLY WOULD NOT BE ACCESSIBLE. SO THIS IS ALL OF THEIR WORK AND I AM TRULY, TRULY GRATEFUL. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>JOHN BENNETT: THANKS, COUNCIL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. RAQUEL, I JUST WASN'T GOING TO TAKE COUNCIL'S TIME OUT BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS, BUT NOW WHAT? FOR YOU, RAQUEL, I SURE AS HECK WILL. I'M A BIG FAN OF YOURS AS YOU KNOW. YOU DON'T JUST DO YOUR JOB. YOU ARE NOT JUST THERE BECAUSE YOU H HAV A A JOB TITLE. YOU WEAR IT ON YOUR SLEEVE AND IN YOUR HEART. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY, THEY TRUST YOU. THEY TRUST YOU. AND THAT'S A COMMUNITY. I KNOW IT BECAUSE MY FAMILY COMES FROM IT BECAUSE OF MY OLDEST BROTHER JUAN. THAT'S A COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T TRUST EASILY. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY REALLY, REALLY TRUST YOU. YOU DO A GREAT JOB IN STARTING WITH THE MAYOR'S AUTISM-FRIENDLY COMMITTEE AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE SINCE THEN. WE HAVE REALLY DONE A LOT OF THINGS FOR DISABILITITY-LALATE ISSUES IN TAMPA, BUT TO QUOTE THE CARPENTERS, WE HAVE ONLY JUST BEGUN, AND WE HAVE A LONG ROAD AHEAD, A LONG ROAD AHEAD. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND ABSOLUTE YOU. YOU DO A GREAT JOB. YOU HAVE MY RESPECT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. ARE WE GOING TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO CLEAR IT OUT? >> YOU CAN LEAVE IT HERE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT CAN END UP IN THE JEWELRY STORE SOMEWHERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND IT'S MADE BY TIFFANY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE YOU GO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHILE WE WAIT FOR THAT, DO YOU WANT TO GO TO NEW BUSINESS OR JUST WAIT A FEW MINUTES? ALL RIGHT, DO YOU WANT TO GO TO NEW BUSINESS? JUST GO DOWN THE ROAD. COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DO YOU HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS, SIR? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR. SO I WOULD LIKE -- THIS IS GOING TO COME UP LATER, BUT AS LONG AS YOU ARE ASKING FOR NEW BUSINESS NOW, AT LAST FRIDAY'S MEETING WITH THE GANDY FOLKS, THE MAYOR WAS THERE. I DON'T THINK ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE THERE. BUT THE SOUTH OF GANDY FOLKS PUT TOGETHER A 14-POINT REQUEST, AND I THINK THEY HAVE PROVIDEDD T ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AT SOME POINT OVER THE LAST WEEK, AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO -- YOU NOTICE WHAT, MR. CHAIRMAN? LET ME BRING THIS UP LATER. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE RIGHT NOW. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I NOTICE WE HAVE A DISCUSSION LATER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST GIVE ME A SHOT LATER. OTHER THAN THAT, I ASKED CHIEF BENNETT TO GIVE US A COVID UPDATE WHEN HE GIVES HIS CHIEF OF STAFF REPORT TODAY, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT REQUIRES A VOTE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. AFTER 39 WE ARE DOING ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE. >>ISIS VIERA: I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS. I WOULD LIKE -- APRIL IS AUTISM AWARENESS MONTH. I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE SPECIAL NEEDS MOTHER PHYLLIS GUFFMAN TO PROVIDE A 2 TO 4 MINUTE PRESENTATION BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, APRIL 18th CITY COUNCIL DATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. >>LUIS VIERA: I MOTION FOR A COMMENDATION FOR NEW TAMPA RESIDENT JOE MORALES, BE GIVEN OFF-SITE. THIS GUY RECENTLY DONATED A KIDNEY. WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A YOUNGSTER BY THE NAME OF ROG, A 13-YEAR-OLD BOY WHO NEEDED A KIDNEY AND MR. MORALES READ ABOUT THIS BOY, NEVER MET HIM, AND HE GAVE HIM A KIDNEY. I WANT TO GIVE HIM A CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION. I WOULD DO OF OFF-SITE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. >>LUIS VIERA: AND I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS. YOU KNOW WHAT? I WILL ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THIS -- STRIKE THAT. I'L TALK ABOUT THIS DURING THE FAIR ISSUE. ANOTHER ISSUE IS, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT -- I WAS TALKING WITH MARTY AND ANDREA ABOUT THE, WHAT IS IT, THE ROUGH RIDERS MEMORIAL DAY PARADE. I CALLED UP A COUPLE OF GOLD STAR FAMILIES IN THE BREAK JUST TO DISCUSS IT, AND I WANT TO MOTION -- I WAS GOING TO TRY TO REOPEN AND HAVE SOME RECONSIDERATION ON THAT SO THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT THE SCOPE, AND APPARENTLY WE CAN'T. THE CONTENT OF PARADES IS SOMETHING THAT IF OPENS UP LEGAL ISSUES SO I RESPECT THAT AND AM NOT GOING TO DO THAT. BUT WHAT I WLDLD LIKE TO DO IS JUST TO GET A SENSE OF COUNCIL -- MEMORIAL DAY, IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE ROUGH RIDERS, THE MOST WELL KNOWN ROUGH RIDERS IN AMERICA IS ROOSEVELT WHO -- QUINTON ROBINSON -- OH, MY GOD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE A RECESS? >>LUIS VIERA: QUINTIN ROOSEVELT WAS KILLED IN ACTION IN WORLD WAR I. THAT'S MY -- OKAY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAY I MAKE A N BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU. MAYBE WE COULD RECONSIDER THAT ITEM AND PUT IT OFF FOR A WEEK SO WE CAN GET A BETTER SENSE INFORMALLY ABOUT WHAT THAT - >>LUIS VIERA: AND I SPOKE TO MR. SHELBY ABOUT THAT AND APPARENTLY THAT WOULD PUT US -- I'LL LET YOU SPEAK, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, JOHN, AND I AGREE WITH THAT. IF YOU GUYS WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT. AND BY THE WAY, I WANT TO SAY THIS, BY THE WAY. I HAVE NO DOUBT, NO DOUBT THAT WHEN THIS ISSUE IS BROUGHT UP, IT IS A PARADE THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT MEMORIAL IAVAVE NO DOUBT THAT'S GOING TO BE REMEDIED. THIS ISN'T AN ISSUE IN DISPUTE. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY. AND WHAT YOU WERE REFERENCING, WE LOOKED AT THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS CODE SECTION, AND IT SPECIFICALLY 28-31-28-32 BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE CODE, THE WAY SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS ARE ISSUED, THE CODE IS VERY OR REAPPLICATION COUNCIL HAS,NTT BUT BASICALLY, IT'S A NONDISCRETIONARY. IF THE OFFICIAL DETERMINES THAT THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE, AND COMPLIES WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE, THEY ARE ISSUED THE PERMIT. THE PERMIT DOES COME TO CITY COUNCIL, BUT IT ALSO SAYS IN 28-32-B, I BELIEVE IT IS, THAT COUNCIL SHALL REVIEW AND APPROVE IT IF THE APPLICATION MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE. SO IT'S REALLY NONDISCRETIONARY. YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DENY A FINDING OF NONCOMPLIANCE OF SOME PROVISION OF THE CODE WHICH AGAIN THE OFFICIAL WOULDN'T HAVE SET IT HERE FOR COUNCIL'S APPROVAL BUT HAVING FOUND THAT THEY WERE IN COMPLIANCE, SO IT'S KIND OF AN ODD APPROVAL PROCESS IN THAT SENSE, BUT IT IS REALLY NONDISCRETIONARY, AND OBVIOUSLY FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT REASONS, PARADES HAVE TO BE CONTENT CAN'T DENY A PERMIT BUT WE DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THAT PARTICULAR PARADE ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY. SO AS WE DISCUSSED, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE MAYBE TO REACH OUT TO THE ROUGH RIDERS IN SOME CAPACITY -- >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAD A QUESTION? IF YOU WANT TO, GO AHEAD. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I HEAR MS. ZELMAN AND I DON'T DISAGREE BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T CONTINUE IT FOR A WEEK, GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM STAFF IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT APPLICATION SAYS, WHAT THE EXTENT OF IT IS, IS ALCOHOL GOING TO BE INVOLVED, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. AND CROSS THAT BRIDGE. I AM GOING TO SAY TWO WEEKS. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: NEXT WEEK IS CRA. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT YOU COULD HAVE A SPECIAL SLOT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO SET UP A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING IS A HERCULEAN PROJECT FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE FOR ONE ITEM. >>LUIS VIERA: CAN WE DO IT DURING THE EVENING SESSION? >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE PROBABLY CAN IF YOU WISH. HERE IS MY QUESTION, COUNCIL. AND I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL MEMBERS' CONCERNS. TT ASSUMING ALL THAT INFORMATION COMES BACK, STILL WHAT BASIS WOULD YOU HAVE TO DENY IT? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T SEPARATE IN TERMS OF WHAT-IFS. IF WE WANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND A ONE WEAK CONTINUANCE IS NOT BURDENSOME ON ANYBODY. >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT WHAT I AM SUGGESTING IS THAT WE MERELY SEND A MESSAGE FROM CITY COUNCIL REQUESTING THAT THIS PARADE, IF IT'S NOT -- BECAUSE AGAIN THERE ARE CITIES THAT DO MEMORIAL -- AND THAT'S WHY I WAS INTERESTED -- THERE ARE CITIES THAT DO MEMORIAL PARADES THAT ARE VERY SOLEMN BUT IS S NOT THAT WE URGE IT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE DAY. THAT'S IT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE BODY TO SPEAK OUT ON THAT ISSUE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: AGAIN MY ONLY CONCERN IS THE WAY IN WHICH THE CODE LANGUAGE IS WRITTEN THE ONLY GUDES FOR DENIAL BY CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE A FINDING THAT THE APPLICATION DIDN'T COMPLY WITH THE CODE -- >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT, AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS GOING UNTIL I SPOKE TO YOU ALL. THAT'S MY ONLY MOTION THAT I AM MAKING I TSS REGARD, IS SIMPLY A SENSE OF COUNCIL IN THAT REGARD. AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE EVERYBODY AGREES WITH, BUT IT WOULD BOTHER MY CONSCIENCE A LOT IF I DIDN'T DO THAT. IT JUST WOULD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO. COUNCILMAN GUDES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM SPEAKING AS A COUNCILMEMBER, NOT AS A ROUGH RIDER. THIS IS A PARADE IN WHICH WE ARE GOING TO BE HONORING SO MANY OF OUR PEOPLE, AND NOT -- I JUST WOULD LIKE TO READ OUT SOMETHING THAT HAS COME TO ME FROM A PERSON IN CHARGE. IT SAYS, HI, JOE. I AM CONTACTING YOU FROM THE ROUGH RIDERS. THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING REGARDING THE ROUGH RIDERS' PARADE. PLEASE LET COUNCILMAN VIERA KNOW THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY PLANNING A HOMETOWN HEROS CELEBRATION OF OUR FORCES PARADE. I THINK -- EXCUSE ME, I HATE TO USE THAT PHRASE I THINK BECAUSE I KNOW THE ROUGH RIDERS ARE GOING TO HAVE A MEMORIAL DAY PARADE, AND WE ARE A -- A MILITARY STYLE KREWE ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING THE GOOD THINGS THAT THE ROUGH RIDERS AND TED I ROOSEVELT DID. WE ARE GOING TO HONOR OUR MILITARY, ESPECIALLY ON MEMORIAL DAY, IN A WAY THAT WE SHOULD. IT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL, IN MY OPINION, TO DICTATENYNYTHTHER PARADES, STANDARDS, EXCEPT THOSE THAT ARE IN OUR CODES. WITH NO OFFENSE TO ANYBODY, BUT I FEEL THIS IS STARTING TO BECOME A LITTLE OVERBOARD. I CAN GIVE THE ASSURANCE THAT MY COOPERATION WITH THE ROUGH RIDERS, AS A MEMBER, WE WILL ENSURE -- I WILL ENSURE THAT ALL ORGANIZATIONS WILL BE GIVEN THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PARADE. IF WE WERE TO HAV AN EASTER DAY PARADE, WILL WE BE DICTATING ON HOW THE BUNNIES WILL BE DRESSED? NOTHING FURTHERMORE, MR. CHAIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOMETIMES WE MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT HAS TO BE. AND I HEAR WHAT MS. ZELMAN WAS SAYING ABOUT THE CODE. AND THAT'S WHY I KEEP SAYING SOME OF THESE CODES INTERTWINE AND GET CONFUSING. BUT I WASN'T HEARING ABOUT A DENIAL AT ALL. I WAS HEARING AOIOINT O OF DISCUSSION. AND THIS COULD END UP WITH ABOUT THE PARADE, SO TO SPEAK ME, MR. DINGFELDER WAS ASKING FOR US TO CONTACT THE ROUGH RIDERS PARADE AND SEE IF WE CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF INVOLVEMENT WITH THE PARADE. AND MR. CITRO ALREADY CLEARED THAT UP. AND THE ARMED FORCES, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH STAFF OR THE SPECIAL DIVISION WHOEVER DOES PARADE TO MEETTITIH THE ROUGH RIDERS AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO, OR JUST GET TOGETHER. SO I THINK JUST PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE IT BACK A LITTLE BIT, SEE IF WE CAN CONTACT MR. CITRO'S CONTACT, WORK WITH THEM, MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, YOU KNOW. I ALWAYS TELL EVERYBODY JUST LIKE SOME OF THE ISSUES ON 46, WHATEVER IT IS, IF WE TALK ABOUT ISSUES, WHEN I GO SOMEWHERE AND I HAVE PEOPLE IN DISPUTE, THEY CAN'T COMPROMISE, BUT ONCE YOU GET ALL PARTIES TOGETHER, I ALWAYS SAY, YOU HAVE TO BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO HEAR EVERYONE'S SIDE. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY ALL THE TIME. YOU ARE JUST NOT. BUT YOU CAN COME TO A GOOD CONSENSUS, YOU CAN MAKE ANYTHING WORK. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING DIFFICULT WITH THIS AT ALL, IF MR. CITRO CAN GET WITH MR. VIERA OR SPECIAL YOBS USE PERMITS, RECREATION, SEE HOW WE CAN HAVE A GOOD RATATIONSHIP. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AGAIN, I THINK IT'S NOT COMPLICATED AT ALL. MERELY A REQUEST THAT THE PARADE BE DONE IN A MANNER THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SOLEMN NATURE OF MEMORIAL DAY. THAT'S IT. IF IT IS GOING TO BE TERMED A MEMORIAL DAY PARADE, THAT'S IT. I AM NOT LOOKING INTO DENYING THIS, BECAUSE WE REALLY CAN'T, I'M TOLD, ET CETERA, AND THAT'S FINE. BUT THAT'S IT. JUST A SIMPLE REQUEST. I DON'T THINK THAT'S CONTROVERSIAL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE MOTION, WRITE A LETTER? >>LUIS VIERA: A SENSE OF COUNCIL. I WON'TVEVENO ALERT. JUST A SENSE OF COUNCIL ASKING THE PARADE BE DONE IN A WAY THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SOLEMN NATURE OF MEMORIAL DAY. THAT'S IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING AT ALL. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. WELL, NOW WHAT? I'M DONE. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO, ANY NEW BUSINESS, SIR? >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE T T PRESENT AT A TIME SPECIFIED LATER TO COACH JOSE AND THE USF WOMEN'S BASKETBALL GROUP, TEAM, FOR THE GREAT JOB THEY DID. THEY WON THEIR DIVISION. THEY WENT TO MARCH MADNESS AND THEY HAD ONE HELL OF A YEAR. SO I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION AND WORK OUT LOGISTICS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? COUNCILMAN CITRO? >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S IT. I'M FINISHED. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, CHAIR FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP THIS AFTERNOON, THIS MORNING. YOU KNOW, WE LOST ANOTHER CITY WORKER ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO IN OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIVISION. SHE WAS VERY, VERY LOVED, CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY THERE. I WENT TO THE CANDLELIGHT VIGIL LAST FRIDAY. MYSELF AND THE MAYOR ATTENDED. SERVICE IS GOING TO BE HELD THIS WEEK. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HONOR THE MEMORY OF SENITURE A ISAAC, A RECREATION SUPERVISOR WHO PASSED AWAY, AFTER A COURAGEOUS BATTLE WITH BREAST CANCER, PRESENTED TO THE FAMILY ON FRIDAY, APRIL 2nd. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR? >>ORLANDO GUDES: A COUPLE MORE, SIR. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF ISSUES THAT DEAL WITH THE CHARTER, AND DEAL WITH POWER, AND DEAL WITH SALARIES AND SO FORTH. I HAVE BEEN DOING SOME RESEARCH IN REFERENCE TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE. AND AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE IS -- BE ABLE TO FUNCTION, THE CITY CLERK IS A CHARTER OFFICER WHO WORKS FOR BOTH THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL. RECOGNIZING THE SEPARATION OF POWERS, WE UNDERSTAND ADMINISTRATION'S ROLE BUT WE ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BUDGET, AND THIS IS A BUDGETARY ISSUE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAVE THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO SUPPORT CITY COUNCIL, AND I I EMPLOYEES IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE ARE FULLY COMPENSATED FOR WHAT THEY ARE ACCOMPLISHING. THEREFORE, I MOTION FOR THE COUNCIL TO REQUEST ADMINISTRATION TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THE ISSUES AND IN ITS JUDGMENT DETERMINE APPROPRIATE ACTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES. SECOND FROM DINGFELDER. COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WERE YOU THE SECOND? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? COUNCILMAN GUDES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: LAST MOTION, AS YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OF YOU MAY HAVE RECEIVED E-MAILS FROM SEVERAL POTENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR HIRE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AS RELATES TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AREAS REFERENCE TO OUR POLYGRAPH. I GOT ZOO INTO A DISCUSSION WITH CHIEF BENNETT, SENT OUT A MEMO SEEKING INFORMATION. AT THIS TIME I DID MEET WITH CHIEF BENNETT, AND HE CONCURRED PROBABLY A WORKSHOP IS BEST, AND MAKE A MOTION THAT THE OFFICE OF CITY STAFF WORK WITH THE POLICE, FIRE AND -- TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL ON A MAY OR JUNE DATE AND SPEAK TO THE THOSE IN THE -- DEPARTMENT, AND [~DISTORTION~], AND OF A SPECIAL PROCESS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. YES MA'AM? >>ORLANDO GUDES: HE'S GOING TO COME BACK AND GIFTS OF GIVE US A DATE BECAUSE OF THE ENFORCEMENT INFORMATION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. ANY OPPOSED? ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? COUNCILMAN CARLSON? >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE TWO THINGS REAL FAST. YOU ALL MAY REMEMBER A YEAR OR SO AGO YOU ALL INDULGED ME TO PRESENT FOR TEN MINUTES ON WHAT I CALL TAMPA'S SCORECARD. SINCE THEN, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND CAROLE POST HAD TAKEN THE ECONOMIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE BE INITIATED AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTING SOMETIME IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS ABOUT WHAT THE PLANS ARE. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I HAVAVE GT AN UPDATE ON THE TAMPA SCORECARD. WOULD YOU ALL ALLOW ME TEN MINUTES TO PRESENT AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP? TEN MINUTES? LET'S SEE. THE NEXT WORKSHOP IS THE 22ND. SO LET'S GET THE WORKSHOPS THAT ARE ALREADY LISTED OUT OF THE WAY. 9 A.M. IS THAT OKAY? SO THAT'S FOR APRIL 22ND AT 9 A.M. BUT AT THE LAST WORKSHOP. >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S AN AWKWARD THING TO ASK FOR MYSELF BUT IF I COULD MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS THE MOTION. COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS THE SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, SIR. >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTAN FOR THE PUBLIC AND ALL OF US TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE AND I THINK THERE'S A SEA CHANGE ABOUT HOW WE LOOK AT OUR DATA, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THAT THIS IS SIMILAR TO COUNCILMAN GUDES' REQUEST JUST NOW, AND IF YOU THINK IT APPROPRIATE, WE CAN ADD THIS ON. BUT SINCE OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LAST WEEK I GOT A BUNCH OF CALLS ABOUT THE PAST HISTORY, NOT CURRENT BUT PAPAST HISTORY ABOUT MINORITY RIGHTS AND FEMALE RIGHTS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND THE FOLKS WHO CALLED ME WERE JUST LIKE FOR CHIEF TRIPP TO COME, GIVE A REPORT ON HER PLANS TO ADDRESS THE AT LEAST THE PAST PERCEIVED INEQUITIES FOR FEMALES AND MINORITIES. I THINK THERE'S A STRONG FEELING OUT THERE THAT CHIEF TRIPP IS GOING TO LEAF THE -- LEAD THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND OTHERS ARE COMMITTED TO THIS BUT FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY WE JUST LIKE TO HEAR WHAT HER PLANS ARE FOR THAT REGARD. SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK CHIEF TRIPP TO COME BACK. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN? >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN IS THERE A TIME? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MEAN, IS IT SOMETHING YOU WANT RIGHT AWAY? IF NOT WE CAN PUT IT MAY 20th. >>BILL CARLSON: MAY 20th. DO YOU WANT TO ADD IT? OKAY. SO I WOULD JUST MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TO MAY 5th FOR -- IF THAT'S OKAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, DO WE HAVE A DATE FOR THE POLYGRAPH? >> IS IT MAY 20? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COULD WE SAY TO BE DETERMINED? LET'S DO IT MAY 20th UNDER STAFF REPORTS. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. SO THE MOTION WOULD BE FOR CHIEF TRIPP TO REPORT ON HER PLANS TO ADDRESS HOW TO BUILD POLICIES FOR EQUITABLE TREATMENT OF MINORITY AND FEMALE FIREFIGHTERS. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. MOTION BY SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ANYTHING ELSE? >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR. JUST WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH CHIEF TRIPP MAYBE TWO WEEKS OR SO AGO ON SOME OF THOSE ISSUES, INCLUDING WOMEN'S ADVISORY BOARD, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS, AND JUST TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, ON THOSE ISSUES, I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN CHIEF TRIPP. I THINK SHE'S A GOOD WOMAN. I THINK SHE FEELS PASSIONATELY IN HER HEART ONNSSSSUE OF DIVERSITY AND PLURALISM. AND I HAVE EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT SHE'S GOING TO DO -- AS WE ALL AGREED, BY THE WAY, BUT JUST TO SAY THESE ARE ISSUES THAT SHE'S ON. SO I THINK IT WILL BE GOOD TO HAVE HER TALK ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE SHE FEELS PASSIONATELY ABOUT THOSE ISSUES. >>BILL CARLSON: AS I SAID, I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO ANYONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE FULL FAITH IN CHIEF TRIPP AND THE MAYOR, SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THEIR IDEAS, AND I THINK IT WILL BE GOOD FOR THE P PUBCC T TO HEAR THAT THEYE ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAD A MOTION -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU MADE A MOTION. SECOND WAS GUDES? ALL IN FAVOR? WE DID? ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS, SIR? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR, I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE A LETTER THAT I RECEIVED. I'M SURE MOST OF US RECEIVED IT, NOT ALL OF US, FROM DON AND CAROL BORREL, A PROBLEM THEY HAVE ON 501 WEST PARIS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND THEY HAVE -- WE HAVE PICTURES THEY SENT US. THIS HOUSE IS IN DEPLORABLE CONDITION. IT'S ABOUT TO FALL DOWN. IT'S AN ABANDONED STRUCTURE. AND I AM NOT BLAMING CODE ENFORCEMENT. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS GIVEN OVER TO THE ADMINISTRATION NOW. IT'S IN DIRE NEED. IT SHOULD BE TORN DOWN. THE PROPERTY IS VACANT FOR SOME TIME. IT'S OVERGROWN. ITEMS ALL OVER THE PLACEITITHI THE PROPERTY. AND THE PICTURES TELL A LOT MORE THAN WORDS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US SET THIS TO JOHN BENNETT, SEE IF HE CAN FOLLOW IT THROUGH AND PROCESS, AS THE NEED IS DIRE. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AT 50 3rd WEST PARIS STREET AND DESERVES SOME SWIFT ACTION, BECAUSE THIS COULD HURT SOMEBODY. I MAKE THAT MOTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? YES, SIR, ANYTHING ELSE? >>CHARLILIEIRIRAN: : Y,, SIR. TWO OTHER THINGS REAL QUICK. THE PASSING OF TWO GREAT FIREFIGHTERS. ONE WAS -- ONE OF THE LEADERS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WHEN IT FIRST STARTED. HE AND MAYORS IN THE PAST, I MEAN THE PAST-PAST, WORKED DILIGENTLY TO WORK ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S MONEY THAT'S BEEN INVESTED AND THEY HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB. IF IT WASN'T FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN THE PAST, THE FAIR DEPARTMENT WOULD NOT BE AS STRONG FINANCIALLY AS IT IS AND I WAS OFF SATURDAY. I WENT TO THE WAKE. THE NEXT DAY, I HAD TO GO TO MY GRANDDAUGHTER'S PARTY. THEN THE OTHER THAT PASSED AWAY WAS TONY PARARIS. I HAD TO GO TO A PARTY SO I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT ATTENDING. BUT BOTH OF THOSE WERE STALWARTS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. I WOULD JUST SAY THANK YOU TO BOTH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO GAVE SO MUCH AND WORKED SO DILIGENTLY TO MAKE THE CITY OF TAMPA WHAT IT I I TODAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY, VERY GOOD SENTIMENTS TO TWO VERY GOOD LOYAL PUBLIC SERVANTS TO THIS COMMUNITY. I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT BOTH OF THEM UP. ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT, SIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GIVE THE GAVEL TO THE CHAIR PRO TEM. FIRST MOTION I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS IN REGARDS TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT MONDAY. I SENT OUT A MEMO WITH A COUPLE OF ACTION ITEMS MOVING FORWARD FOR FUTURE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. I HOPE YOU ALL READ THOSE. THE ONLY CHANGE THAT I WOULD MAKEHAHAT WAS SENT OUT, ONE OF THEM WAS TO MOVE CRA TO SEPARATE DAY MEETINGS, ONCE PER MONTH, SINCE WE HAVE ONE CRA MEETING PER MONTH. I PUT SECOND TUESDAY OF THE MONTH, BUT DISCUSSING IT WITH MICHELLE VAN LOAN AND HOW THEY GET THEIR INFORMATION IN AND IN PREPARATION FOR THOSE MEETINGS, THEY WOULD PREFER THE THIRD TUESDAY OF THE MONTH. I THINK THAT -- BECAUSE SOME OF THESE MEETINGS ARE VERY LONG. I THINK IT WOULD KEEP A BALANCE. BUT THERE ARE 12 ITEMS TOTAL. THAT MEMO WAS SENT OUT. I HOPE THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS DID SEE THAT, SEE EVERYTHING. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THESE NEW GUIDELINES JUST TO KEEP THE MEETINGS MOVING, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY AND MORE EFFICIENTLY. COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, DID YOU READ THE MEMO? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DID READ THE MEMO. I AM TRYING TO PULL THEM UP. BECAUSE I HAD ONE QUESTION ON ONE ITEM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO THE CRA MEETING, ACTUALLY TWO QUESTIONS. WHAT ARE WE AT CURRENTLY? WE DO A FULL CRA DAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A CRA MEETING DURING THE DAY AND USUALLY A NIGHT COUNCIL MEETING. SINCE THE CRA MEETINGS HAVE GONE LONGER, FOR EXAMPLE, NEXT THURSDAY WE HAVE CRA AT 9 A.M. AND THEN WE HAVE A 6 P.M. COUNCIL EVENING MEETING WITH 10 LAND REZONINGS AND ONE CONTINUED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THE WHOLE INTENT IS TO TRY TO GET CRA BY ITSELF? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. SO -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF WE DO THAT, AREN'T WE GOING TO END UP WITH AULULL COUNCIL MEETING COMBINED WITH A NIGHT MEETING? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, WE WOULD JUST COME IN FOR THAT NIGHT MEETING INSTEAD OF BEING HERE LATE AT NIGHT BECAUSE THE CRA MEETINGS HAVE GONE INTO THE AFTERNOON. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OH, YOU ARE GOING TO COMBINE IT -- I'M SORT OF CONFUSED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DON'T MEET ON TUESDAYS SO WE WILL HAVE CRA ON TUESDAYS JUST TO GIVE US A MORNING BREAK ON THAT THURSDAY MORNING. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. I THOUGHT COUNCIL CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT, BUT I THOUGHT THE INTENTION WAS TO FREE UP MORE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO WORKSHOPS, ICICH IS -- >>> WELL, YES, IF WE HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER WORKSHOP DAY INSTEAD OF HAVING A VERY HEAVY WORKSHOP DAY, WE CAN ADD IT THAT MORNING AND MAYBE SUPPLY IT UP AND HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL WORKSHOP MONTHLY MEETING JUST SO WE ARE OUT OF HERE BY LUNCH TIME AND WE ARE NOT SPENDING WHOLE DAYS AND WHATNOT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MISSED THE SUBTLE NUANCE. THE THIRD TUESDAY. I THINK I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT THE THIRD -- >>> THIRD TUESDAY, AND REFERRED TO MICHELLE VAN LOAN, SO THEY GET THEIR INFORMATION IN AND ALL REPORTS DONE. HAHAT WAS -- AND IF WE NEED THAT, BECAUSE ITEM NUMBER 6, SCHEDULE WORKSHOPS ON THE SECOND AND FOURTH THURSDAYS, IF WE EVEN HAVE THAT MUCH BUSINESS. BUT THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD DO. INSTEAD OF HAVING ONE HEAVY WORKSHOP DAY WE CAN SPLIT IT UP TWO TIMES IN THE MONTH AND JUST STREAMLINE THINGS. COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR. IF I AM UNDERSTANDING CORRECT, WE WILL BE MEETING THAT THURSDAY MORNING FOR WORKSHOP, CORRECT? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, IF WE IF WE CAN HANDLE ONE W WORKSHOP MEETING A MONTH, THEN FINE. IF NOT WE CAN TAKE IT TO TWO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND I HAVE LIKE I EXPRESSED BEFORE A TINY CONCERN ON WHAT I CALL INDUCED DEMAND POTENTIALLY BUT THAT'S 5% OF YOUR WORK PRODUCT, SO I AM GOING TO 100 SUPPORT -- SUPPORT AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND OUR ATTORNEY MR. SHELBY FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S NOT HARD -- OR IT'S NOT EASY, EXCUSE ME, BUT I AM GRAND TO SUPPORT AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCILMAN CARLSON? COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GO TO CARLSON FIRST. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARLSON? >>BILL CARLSON: SIMILAR TO WHAT MR. VIERA SAID, I SUPPORT EVERYTHING EVERYTHING ON HERE BUT MY PREFERENCE IS TO KEEP CRA ON THE SAME DAY UNLESS WE NEED MORE DAYS. THINK WE SHOULD FIND EFFICIENCIES IN TIME INSTEAD OF ADDING MORE TIME. BUT THE REST I AGREE. THE ONLY THING THAT'S MISSING SUCCESS DIDN'T PUT THE CHAIR WILL HAVE A BUZZER OR SOMEBODY WILL HAVE A BUZZER FOR US. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SET TIMER IN ITEM NUMBER 5, FOR FIVE MINUTE FOR EACH COUNCILMEMBER. WE HAVE IT HERE. UNUNCIANAN DINGFELDER. YES SIR. SOMEWHERE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I FOUND YOUR MEMO. I KIND OF AGREE WITH MR. CARLSON ON THAT ONE ITEM. I'M NOT SURE THAT THE CRA ISSUE, IT'S ONE ONE OF THOSE IF IT AIN'T BROKE I AM NOT SURE WHY WE ARE FIXING IT. IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETIMES THE CRA MEETINGS GO LONG, BUT MOST OF THE TIME, I THINK WE CAN FINISH BY NOON. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT BAD. BUT THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS -- HOLD ON, LET ME SEE. FIVE MINUTE TIMER. OH, ITEM 5. SET TIMER FOR FIVE MINUTES FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBERS DISCUSSION TO KEEP TRACK OF TIME. I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT TYPICALLY, WE ASK QUESTIONS TO STAFF, OR MIGHT BE EVEN A QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT OR TO THE COMMUNITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IS IT MEANT THAT THAT FIVE MINUTES INCLUDES -- >>> NO, NO, NO, IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE AN APPLICANT WITH A REZONING HEARING, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES LEFT OF YOUR FIVE MINUTES AND WHATNOT. IT WOULD BE IF YOU HAVE MEMETHING TO SAY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? MANY OF US TALK AND WE GIVE -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: INTENT IS NOT TO INCLUDE THE RESPONSE. BECAUSE IN THAT PERSON RESPONDS FOR FIVE OR TEN MINUTES, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULDN'T -- >>> NO, IF I PROPOSE SOMETHING, SAY I WANT TO PROPOSE THIS NEW WHATEVER AT CITY COUNCIL, I LIMIT MY DISCUSSION TO FIVE MINUTES AND NOT GO BEYOND THAT. TO KEEP THINGS GOING. BUT IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE AN APPLICANT IN A REZONING WHERE YOU ARE ON A SET TIMER, USE YOUR REBUTTAL TIME, OR CAN I HAVE ANOTHER MINUTE? JOJOHNININGFDEDER: LET'S SAY JOHN BENNETT SUPP AT THE PODIUM AND I HAVE THREE OR FOUR QUESTIONS TO HIM, AND HE HAS ANSWERS BACK TO ME, THE ANSWERS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE FIVE MINUTES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST THE QUESTION. >> IF THAT. I DON'T THINK WE WILL BE PICKING ON THAT. BUT LET'S SAY I PROPOSE A DRAFT ORDINANCE ON SOMETHING OR WANT SOMETHING. I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE 15 MINUTES -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TO PONTIFICATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: KEEP IT WITHIN FIVE MINUTES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T LUKE IT. I WILL BEONONEST WITH YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT, THE TIMER? >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE TAMER, THE FIVE MINUTES. I THINK EVERYBODY RESPECTS EVERYBODY AND ISSUES COME UP, WE CAN TALK. YOU CAN KIND IT WRAP IT UP. BUT THAT'S M JUST MY OPINION. AND I AM ONLY ONE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU KNOW WHAT? I HAVE SOMEONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR THAT NEEDS TO LEAVE IN 45 MINUTES BECAUSE OF THEIR GRANDKIDS. THIS DISCUSSION ASK GOING LONGER THAN EXPECTED. I AM BEGUN TO HOLD OFF ON MY NEW BUSINESS TILL THE END OF THE MEETING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER9.9. >>RYAN MANASSE: REZ 30-103, THE GENERAL PROPERTY LOCATION IS 5426 BAY CENTER DRIVE AND THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU ON FIRST READING WAS PD TO PD, HOTEL, FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, CONTINUED FROM FEBRUARY 11th, AND THEN ALSO ON MARCH 18th. IN DISCUSSION WAS THE AGENT, THEY ARE GOING TO PROPOSE AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION, AND I WILL JUST READ THEM OUT AND I WILL DEFER TO DAVID TO PRESENT THOSE. JUST SO WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE, PROPOSING THE FOLLOWING AMENITY BEING ON THE SITE, A SIDEWALK WHICH WOULD BE ON THE PROPERTY WHICH WILL BE ZONING CAN ACCOMMODATE AND BY THE DEVELOPER FOR PUBLIC USE WHICH WOULD BE ONE BICYCLE REPAIR STATION, ONE WATER "BOTTLE FILLER STATION, TWO BICYCLE RACKS, THREE PET WASTE STATIONS. STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. COHEN, YOU WERE SWORN IN EARLIER, I BELIEVE. MR. MECHANIK, YOU WERE NOT SWORN. I SEE TIM AND DAN WOODWARD. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. SWORN SWORN DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT O GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MRS. WELLS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING OR ARE YOU JUST STANDING BY? NO? OKAY. MR. MECHANIK, YOU ARE THE REPRESENTATIVE HERE, SIR? >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, SIR. MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE HAD A FAIRLY LENGTHY MEETING ON FEBRUARY 11th. AND I PLANNED TO DO A VERY BRIEF INITIAL PRESENTATION, BUT A LOT HAS ACTUALLY OCCURRED SINCE FEBRUARY 11th. SO I WOULD ASK THAT I BE GIVEN APPROXIMATELY TEN MINUTES TO DO AN INITIAL PSESENTIOION, AND THEN RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME, ANOTHER TEN MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL, IF THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE COUNCIL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE ALREADY HEARD THIS CASE LIKE ONE AND A HALF TIMES. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION BY COUNCIL MEMBERS? NO? ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD, SIR. >>DAVID MECHANIK: OKAY. I WILL TRY TO BE AS BRIEF AS I CAN BUT THERE'S A LOT OF MATERIAL TO COVER. I HAVE WITH ME THIS AFTERNOON TIM GRAFF, THE APPLICANT. I ALSOM HIGHWOODS PROPERTY. WHO IS BOTH LAND OWNER ON THIS PROJECT. ALSO WITH ME IS RANDY COEN OF COEN AND COMPANY, THE AIC PLANNER ON THIS PROJECT. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT YOU ENABLE RANDY TO SHARE HIS SCREEN. WE CONCUR IN THE STAFF REPORT AND AGREE TO MAKE ALL THE CHANGES LISTED IN THE REVISION, AND I WOULD NOTE THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED ALL FAVORABLE COMMENT FROM THE CITY AND PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF INCLUDING A FINDING OF CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMP PLAN AND THE DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE ARE ONLY ASKING FOR TWO CHANGES IN THE APPROVED PLAN FROM WHAT WAS APPROVED IN 2018. WE ARE REQUESTING A SMALL INCREASE IN THE SIZE OF THE SECOND BUILDING FOOTPRINT, AND A SMALL INCREASE IN HEIGHT OF THE SECOND. WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE RANDY COEN PRESENT THE PARTICULARERS OF THE AMENDMENT. >> RANDY COEN, 4121 WEST CYPRESS STREET. I HAVE BEEN SWORN. I JUST WANT TO RUN YOU THROUGH THE SITE PLAN AND THE CHANGES. THE FIRST ITEM WE HAVE HERE ARE JUST THE SITE PLAN AS IT WAS APPROVED. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY. THE NORTHERN BUILDING HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED. THE OTHER BUILDING IS THIS THIS LOCATION HERE, A VERY LARGE RECTANGLE, A BUILDING OF 22,000 SQUARE FEET AND CHANGE. IT'S A 7-STORY BUILDING. IT CAN BE OFFICE, IT CAN BE MULTIFAMILY. UP TO 546 DWELLING UNITS FOR A HOTEL OF UP TO 524 ROOMS. THESE ARE THE A EVIDENCE A PROVED USES FOR THIS BUILDING AS IT SITS TODAY. I WANT TO MOVE TO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, WHICH IS RECONFIGURATION OF BUILDING FOOTPRINT. AND I WILL GO TO A COLOR SLIDE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER, INSTEAD OF BEING LARGE RECTANGLE WE HAVE APPROVED TODAY WE ARE SEEKING TO ELONGATE THE BUILDING, BE ABLE TO MASS THE EXISTING PARKING GARAGE AND THE PROPOSED PARKING GARAGE WITH THE BUILDING ITSELF. THE BUILDINGOOOOTPNTNT INCREASES FROM 32,000 SQUARE FEET TO 38,000 SQUARE FEET. BEHIND MR. MECHANIK DISCUSSED THIS ALLOWS THE BUILDING TO GO FROM 7 STORIES TO 9 STORIES. WHY ARE WE DOING THAT? PLAIN AND SIMPLE, CRESCENT COMMUNITIES BUILDS HIGH END RESIDENTIAL PRODUCTS. THESE WHAT THEY WISH TO BUILD HERE. THEY ARE LARGER UNITS. THEY ARE A VERY HIGH END COMPARABLE TO CONDOS. WITH THIHIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, ASKING TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF MULTIFAMILY THAT CAN BE BUILT FROM 546 UNITS TO 9254 UNITS SO THE PROJECT IS 2292 UNITS, A REDUCTION OF 48% IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS. WITH THAT REDUCTION, THE PARKING STRUCTURE WHICH IS CURRENTLY APPROVED FOR 11 STORIES AND ENCOMPASS THIS ENTIRE AREA -- SORRY ABOUT THAT -- WOULD BE LITERALLY AN EXPANSION THAT WOULD BE 50% OF THAT WHICH IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED,HIHICH IS SUBSTANTIAL, AND I BELIEVE PROVIDES NICE VISUALS WITH THE BUILDING WE ARE PROPOSING. THE TRAFFIC AGAIN REDUCES BY ABOUT 50% FOR THE PHASE 2 BUILDING. THAT'S LITERALLY A DECREASE OF 135 VEHICLES IN THE MORNING, 131 VEHICLE TRIPS IN THE AFTERNOON, THIS IS ALL BASED UPON THE 2018 DETAILED TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS DONE FOR THE PRIOR REZONING, THAT THE CITY DETERMINED A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS PROPOSAL SINCE WE WERE SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCING THE ENTITLEMENTS THAT WE ARE SEEKING APPROVAL FOR. FROM A TRANSPORTATION STANDPOINT I CAN CULTED THE MOBILITY FEES AND THE WESTSHORE AREA WIDE DRI. THERE'S ALSO A NEIGHBORHOOD D, 33 -- $65,000 OF THAT IS NEIGHBORHOOD FEE FOR DIRECT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. MOVING THROUGH THIS, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THIS IS THE SITE THAT'S EMPTY TODAY. TO THE NORTH OF IT IS THE EXISTING 7 7 SRYRY OICICE BUILDING. THERE IS AN 8 STORY PARKING STRUCTURE HERE WITH AN APPROVAL OF AN 11 STORY PARKING STRUCTURE BESIDE IT. WE ARE NOT DOING THAT UNDER THE OPTION WE ARE PROPOSING TODAY. THE OFFICE BUILDING SITS HERE. THIS IS THE FOUR-STORY BUILDING THAT EXISTS TODAY. THESE ARE BOTH 8-STORY CONDOMINIUMS THAT EXIST TODAY. THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY OF TAMPA FOUND OUR PROJECT TO BE CONSISTENT. THEY ALSO FOUND IT TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH A HEIGHT STANDPOINT GIVEN THE OTHER PROJECTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE BUILDING AS IS S APPROVED TODAY WITH THE 7-STORY OFFICE BUILDING HERE ON THE RIGHT. THIS IS THE BUILDING AS IT WOULD BE PROPOSED UNDER THE CURRENT PROPOSAL WHICH IS A 9-STORY BUILDING WHICH, BY THE WAY, SEEKING LEED CERTIFICATION OF THIS BUILDING AS WELL L. AND HERE IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT BUILDING THAT HAS A LARGE AMENITY AREA AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT TO ENCOMPASS THIS ENTIRE AREA. WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT BACK TO MR. MECHANIK. >>DAVID MECHANIK: THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO REPORT, CITY COUNCIL ASKSKEDSSO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE HAD TWO ZOOM MEETINGS SINCE THE FEBRUARY 11th MEETING, AND WE MET WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE BEACH PARK ASSOCIATION AND THE TWO CONDOMINIUM TOWERS ON MARINER NORTH AND MARINER SOUTH. AS A RESULT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, MY CLIENT OFFERED ADDITIONAL AMENITIES ON THE SITE WHICH RYAN REFERRED TO EARLIER AND TO WHICH WE AGREED WOULD BE ADDED AS A CONDITION ON THE PROJECT, A BICYCLE REPAIR STATION, WATER FOUNTAIN, BOTTLE FILTER STATION, BICYCLE RACKS, AND PET WASTE STATION. THESE ARE ALL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND OPEN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN ADDITION MY CLIENT AGREED TO CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE NOT APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE ON THE SITE PLAN BUT TOPICS CAME UP DURING THE DISCUSSION WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO WE HAVE AGREED TO IMPLEMENT THESE PLANS, ONE OF WHICH IS TO ADD EQUIPMENT TO THE FITNESS TRAIL ALONG BAY CENTER DRIVE THAT WOULD EXTEND FROM THE PROJECT ALL THE WAY UP TO HOOVER BOULEVARD. WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY TO CONSIDER THE APPROPRIATENESS OF CERTAIN TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES, AND WE WOULD THEN ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO DO SOMETHING THAT THEY THOUGHT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE BY THE CITY TO INCLUDE NO, SIR IMPROVEMENTS TO THEHEEIEIGHRHRHOOD. WE ALSO HAVE AGREED TO COOPERATE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO REQUEST FDOT TO DREDGE THE CANAL IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY AS WELL AS IN FRONT OF THE PROJECT ITSELF. AND FINALLY, WE HAVE AGREED TO MANAGE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC IN SUCH A WAY THAT TRUCKS WOULD BE DIRECTED TOWARDS BAY CENTER DRIVESETS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, AND AVOID MARINER BOULEVARD. WE CAN'T TOTALLY GUARANTEE ON MARINER BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE WE PULL AS MUCH TRAFFIC AS POSSIBLE THROUGH BAY CENTER DRIVE. AND AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO [~AUDIO CUTS OUT~] SAY A FEW WORD PLEASE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS DAN WOODWARD. I'M WITH HIGHWOODS PROPERTIES, 3111 WEST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD, TAMPA. TAMPA HAS BEEN MY HOME SINCE 19 5. HIGHWOODS HAS BEEN ON THE MARKET SINCE 1996 AND BUILT THE -- BUILDING IN 2007. THE ADJACENT LAND PARCEL HAS REMAINED VACANT SINCE THAT TIME. GIVEN THE CITY'S FOCUS ON MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, HIGHWOODS WOULD LIKE TO BE SEE ACT HIGH QUALITY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING NEXT TO OUR EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR A DIFFERENT USE THAN THAT CURRENTLY ALLOWED. WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE CURRENT ZONING TO FACILITATE A BETTER PRODUCT. WE HAVE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP SEVERAL TIMES AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM BOTH ON THIS SITE AND OFF THE SITE TO APPROVE THE -- IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE PROPOSED CHANGES MEET THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THEY HAVE CITY STAFF APPROVAL. IT REDUCES THE DENSITY AND THE TRAFFIC. AND IT FACILITATES A MUCH HIGHER QUALITY PROJECT. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR APPROVAL OF THESE MODIFICATIONS SO WE MAY MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT AND CONTINUE TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC VITALITY IN WESTSHORE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>DAVID MECHANIK: THAT CONCLUDES OUR INITIAL PRESENTATION, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> VERY GOOD. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC ON THE SECOND FLOOR THAT IS HERE TO SPEAK? IF YOU ARE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, PLEASE APPROACH THE KIOSK AND STATE YOUR NAME. AND PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND SO WE CAN SWEAR YOU IN. SWORN SWORN DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> SURE. YES. LEE AN BONETTI. FIRST I WANT TO SAY I LOVE THE REFERENCE TO THE CARPENTERS, AND I LIKE BEING AROUND A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY KNEW WHAT THAT WAS. GOOD MORNING. ACTUALLY GOOD AFTERNOON AT THIS POINT GENTLEMEN. YOU ARE LOOKING AT AND LISTENING TO A LIFE-LONG VERY LUCKY RESIDENT OF TAMPA, OR WE'LL CALL IT CHAMPA SINCE THAT'S WHAT WE ARE NOW. SIXTY YEARS AGO I CAME HOME FROM TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL TO THE VERY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED FOR THIS PROJECT, AND I WANT TO BE ON RECORD THAT I AM ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THIS NINE STORY MULTIFAMILY PROJECT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS AN INVASION, OR AS SOMEBODY SAID EARLIER TODAY, IT IS A FEEDING FRENZY AFFECTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN BEACH PARK AND IN SOUTH TAMPA. THIS IS NOT A REQUEST FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS. OUR ROADS ARE CURRENTLY UNAVAILABLE, UNNAVIGABLE MOST OF THE TIME ON NORMAL DAYS. CAN YOU IMAGINE ADDING HUNDREDS OF ADDITIONAL FAMILIES FROM THIS MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITY TRYING TO EVACUATE, THAT MANY CARS? WE FLOOD NOW WITH JUST A H HEA RAIN. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE WHAT THE FLOODING DOES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS STRUCTURE HAS NO BUSINESS GOING INTO A COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA. MUCH LEST DOESN'T FIT THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE WORKED SO HARD AND PAID SO MUCH TO CREATE. I AM CONCERNED, VERY CONCERNED FOR THE LACK OF PRIVACY FOR INCREASED CRIME FOR THE NOISE AND LIGHT POLLUTION, OF A INFRASTRUCTURE OF THIS SIZE WILL SURELY CREATE. BUT MOSTLY FOR THE SAFETY OF MY CHILDREN WHO ARE VEHEMENTLY STRESSED AND WORRIED ABOUT TIRIR PRIVACY AND MORE CONGESTION AND PEOPLE IN OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH VERY NARROW STREETS AND ABSOLUTELY NO SIDEWALKS. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT A DOUBT WILL NEGATIVELY AFFECT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, OUR MENTAL HEALTH, OUR PROPERTY VALUES, I IMPLORE YOU, I BEG YOU, PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THIS REQUEST. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM. WE'LL SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND WE WILL HAVE THE NEXT SPEAKER. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. YOUR MICROPHONE IS -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: [OFF MICROPHONE] I WILL TURN ON MY LIGHT. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. BUT A REMAINDER, COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, AS WAS STATED THIS IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING FROM THE 11th OF FEBRUARY WHEN TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE WAS TAKEN. SO THAT BEING THE CASE, COUNCIL'S PROCEDURE CUSTOMARILY IS IF SOMEBODY PREVIOUSLY SPOKE ATAT T HEARING FOR FIRST READING, THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY. SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THE PUBLIC ON NOTICE THAT IF YOU HAVE SPOKEN PREVIOUSLY ON THIS MATTER AT THE FIRST READING ON FEBRUARY 11th THAT YOU SHOULD LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE SUBJECT OF THE CONTINUANCE. AND I WOULD ASK COUNCIL -- EXCUSE ME, THE PUBLIC TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT, PLEASE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: POINT OF ORDER. I WOULD MOVE TO WAIVE THAT RULE JUST BECAUSE ET CETERA BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE HAD THAT INITIAL HEARING. THE E PETITION HAS ASKED FOR A FULL-BLOWN 20 MINUTES TO REPRESENT THEIR CASE. SO IF SOMEBODY HAS GONE TO THE TROUBLE OF CALLING IN OR COMING DOWN HERE, I THINK WE SHOULD WAIVE THAT RULE AND ALLOW THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESTATE THEIR POSITION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S FINE. YES, MA'AM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S WITHOUT OBJECTION. I DIDN'T HEAR -- WITHOUT OBJECTION. >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> DR. TAMMIE KING, I LIVE ON MARINER STREET. I'M HIMSELF A LIFETIME RESIDENT OF TAMPA I.WAS BORN HERE AND I HAVE TO SAY I CAN'T PHRASE IT ANY DIFFERENTLY OR BETTER THAN LIANE JUST DID, COMPLETELY SUPPORT EVERYTHING SHE SAID. IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY ARE QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S WHY WE LIVE THERE. THAT'S WHY WE MOVED THERE. THE IDEA THAT OUR LIVING IN CONDITIONS ARE NOT GOING TO BE PROTECTED WITH THIS 9-STORY MONSTER COMING UP IN OUR QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD. THE STREETS ARE ALREADY VERY SMALL. VIOLATION OF OUR PRIVACY, THE INGRESS AND EGRESS ON A DAILY BASIS IS ALREADY DIFFICULT. ON TOP OF THAT PROPERTY VALUE AND SAFETY, ALL OUR CONCERNS. AGAIN SHE STATED IT VERY WELL BUT SHE'S GOT TO KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS, AND THE MORE I TALK TO PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IN THE STREETS, THEY'RE OPPOSED TO IT. THEY SIMPLY WERE NOT AWARE. AND I THINK WITH ADDITIONAL TIME, WE COULD BRING THEM SO THEY ARE AWARE. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THIS SMALL COMMUNITY WANTS. ALSO THE CONSIDERATION OF EMERGENCY VEHICLCLES G GETTING N AND GETTING OUT, AND THE BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE IN THAT AREA THAT WE APPRECIATE WOULD BE DEVASTATED WITH THIS BUILDING CONSTRUCTION. SO WE IMPLORE YOU, BEG YOU, PLEASE TO BE RECONSIDER ALLOWING THIS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL SANITIZE THE LECTERN AND BRING UP THE NEXT SPEAKER. >> NO OTHER SPEAKERS FOR 39. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL GO TO THE SPEAKERS THAT ARE REGISTERED. I HAVE 14 NAMES. AND IF WE CAN BRING THEM ON. PLEASE TURN OWN YOUR CAMERAS. AND UNMUTE YOURSELVES. AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN LITTLE BY LITTLE. HOW MANY DO WE HAVE THAT ARE LOGGED IN? AT LEAST 12? OKAY. I SEE JENNIFER SPARKS, A SCOTT JAGMAN, JOHN MUELLER, AND KATIE. IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: KATIE, YOU GO FIRST. YOU ARE FIRST ON MY LIST. GO AHEAD. >> I'M KATIE BERKELEY, A BOARD CERTIFIED SPECIALIST IN GOVERNMENT LAW AS WELL AS A CERTIFIED AICI PLANNER, REPRESENT STACIE'S PARK LLC WHICH INVOLVES DOSES OF CONCERNED BEACH PARK RESIDENTS. MY TESTIMONY TODAY IS THROUGH MY E-MAIL ON MARCH 30th TO COUNCIL. AND I WOULD LIKE TO START BY REITERATING HOW THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN. FIRST AND FOREMOST, OF MOST CONCERN IS SEVERAL AREA RESIDENTS, THAT AFFECTS THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA. THE FLOOD RISK ANALYSIS THAT WE PROVIDED IN MY E-MAIL EVALUATES THE CURRENT AND FUTURE FLOOD RISKS OF THE PROPERTY AND FOUND THAT IT IS PRONE TO STORM SURGE FLOODING DURING MAJOR STORM EVENTS TODAY. SPECIFICALLY, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AND THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY ARE EXPECTED TO FLOOD DURING WORST CASE CATEGORY 3 AND CATEGORY 2 STORMS RESPECTIVELY. AND THIS SUBSTANTIATES THE EARLIER COMMENTS FROM AREA RESIDENTS AND WHAT THEY ALREADY KNOW TO BE TRUE AND HAVE STATED ON THE RECORD. IN ADDITION, FLOODING OF THE PROPERTY IS ALSO EXPECTED DURING ANY WORSE CASE HURRICANE OF ANY CATEGORY UNDER PROJECTED SEA LEVEL RISE AND THOSE PROJECTED LEVELS ARE PROVIDED BY NOAH. THE COMP PLAN SPECIFICALLY REQUIRES CONSIDERATION OF COASTAL HIGH HAZARD IN ALL LAND USE DECISIONS AND THE EXISTING AND FUTURE RESIDENTS CAN SAFELY EVALUATE AND SHELTER IN EVENT OF A STORM. BUBUT ALSO REQUIRES THEG OF FUTURE POPULATION AWAY FROM THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND REQUIRES NEW DEVELOPMENT BEST PRACTICES WITH SEA LEVEL RISE. THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT OPTION IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA IS FUNDAMENTALLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN BY DIRECTING A NET POPULATION INCREASE INTO THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA. THE APPLICANT HAS YET TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL MEET OR EXCEED FLOOD RESISTANT CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS, WILL UTILIZE BEST PRACTICES TO MITIGATE PROJECTED SEA LEVEL RISE AND WON'T IMPAIR EVACUATION RATES OR SHELTER CAPACITY. AS NOTED IN THE RECORD FROM THE SUBMISSION I BELIEVE YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE THERE IS ALSO INADEQUATE PUBLIC SCHOOL CAPACITY TO FOCUS ON. SPECIFICALLY THE DESIGNATED ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS ALREADY AT 99% CAPACITY, AND THE MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL FOR THIS LOCATION ARE ALREADY EXCEEDING CAPACITY, AND THAT DEFICIENCY WILL BE FURTHER COMPOUNDED AS A RESULT OF THE MULTIFAMILY OPTION PROPOSED TODAY. THE COMP PLAN ALSO ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENTS THAT PROMOTE USE OF PUBLIC TRANSIT AND PEDESTRIAN AND B BICLELE TRAVEL, AND THE APPLICANT VERY RECENT OFFERING TO INCLUDE A BIKE REPAIR STATION, TWO BIKE RACKS, PET STATION AND REFILLABLE WATER, IS APPRECIATED, BUT ARE NOT TRUE CONCESSIONS, AND THESE SORTS OF IMPROVEMENTS ARE ENCOURAGED BY THE COMP PLAN ALREADY, HAVE BEEN FACTORED IN AT A MUCH EARLIER JUNCTURE, IN MY OPINION. IN COMPATIBLE WITH THE SCALE AND CHARACTER OF THE AREAS NOTED BY THE PRIOR SPEAKERS AND AREA RESIDENTS. THE AREA IS MOSTLY COMOMPREDEDF SINGLE AND TWO-STORY RESIDENTIAL LOTS, TWO-STORY AND FOUR-STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS, AND I GUESS APPROXIMATELY 75-FOOT TALL CONDOMINIUM THERE TO THE SOUTHWEST. THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT OPTION PROPOSED IS 23 FEET AND TWO STORIES TALLER THAN THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW MUCH MORE TIME DOES SHE NEED? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU NEED, MA'AM? >> I HAVE ABOUT FOUR SENTENCE IFS I COULD, PLEASE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD. >> TNKNK Y.. THE PROPOSED DESIGN IS MONOLITHIC AND DESIGN ELEMENTS AND FACADES AND THERE'S NO VARIABLE ROOFLINES IN ELEMENTS THAT ENHANCE VISUAL INTEREST AND REDUCE MASSING. AND MY LAST POINT, THE REQUEST ALSO DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY DEVELOPMENT STANDARD, AND THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A WAIVER FROM THE STANDARD ON THE REMAINING -- WHICH IN MY OPINION IS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE MOBILITY CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN, AND CONSISTENT WITH FOUGHT DEVELOPMENT IN THE OVERLAY THAT WILL BE EXPECTED TO COMPLY WITH THESE STANDARDS, AND WHICH WOULD HAVE GONE A LONG WAY TO PROTECT Y RESIDENTIAL IN THE AREA AND MITIGATE THE PROJECT, AND IT'S MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THIS APPLICATION BE DENIED DENIED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT UP WE HAVE JENNIFER SPARKS. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS JENNIFER SPARKS, AND I LIVE AT 23 WEST SPANISH MAIN STREET IN BEACH PARK. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5426 BAY CENTER DRIVE. THE FIRST ISSUE I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO IS OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS. THE SCHOOLS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE GRADY ELEMENTARY, COLEMAN MIDDLE, AND PLANT HIGH. AND ALL THREE OF THESE SCHOOLS ARE EITHER AT OR ABOVE CAPACITY. THE 1800 UNITS RECENTLY APPROVED AT WESTSHORE MALL ARE GOING TO ADD MANY MORE STUDENTS TO THESE SCHOOLS THAT ALREADY EXTREMELY OVERCROWDED. I WORKED FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS FOR NINE YEARS AS A TEACHER AT SOUTH TAMPA AND I [~DISTORTION~]D -- THE SECOND ISSUE IS THE PROPOSED HEIGHT. THE DEVELOPERS HAVE 115 FEET ALREADY APPROVED AND YET THEY ARE ASKING FOR MORE. EACH ADDITIONAL STORY DETRACTS FROM THE PRIVACY OF BEACH PARK. THE RESIDENTS OF BEACH PARK DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE 2018 REZONING OR WE WOULD HAVE STRONGLY SPOKEN IN OPPOSITION TO THAT AS WELL. HIGHWOODS IS KNOWN AS AN OFFICE RATE AND THE NEIGHBORS DID NOT EXPECT HIGHWOODS TO SEEK APPROVAL FOR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. WE FEEL HEYWOODS HAS B BETRAYED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THE THIRD ISSUE IS TRAFFIC. THE COUNCIL IS WELL AWARE OF THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND WESTSHORE BOULEVARD. THOSE ARE -- BOTH OF THESE LOADS ROW V TRAFFIC VOLUME THAT EXCEEDS CAPACITY. SO WHY ARE WE ADDING MORE TRAFFIC TO TWO MAJOR ROADWAYS ALREADY AT A LEVEL SERVICE D. THIS PROJECT WILL SERVE ONLY TO ADD MORE TRAFFIC TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, INCLUDING AZEELE AND CLEVELAND. THE FOURTH ISSUE IS COMPATIBILITY. THERE IS NOT A 138-FOOT TALL APARTMENT COMPLEX WITHIN 3 MILES OF BEACH PARK. PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS PROJEC% TO SET A NEW STANDARD FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THE LAST ISSUE IS THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS PROVIDED EVIDENCE TO THE COUNCIL RELATED TO THIS VERY SERIOUS COASTAL HIGH HAZARD ISSUE ASSOCIATED WITH PUTTING HUNDREDS OF ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS WITHIN A KNOWN EVACUATION AREA. EVERYONE REMEMBERS OUR LAST HURRICANE EVACUATION, AND WE ALL REMEMBER THE PERILS OF EVERYONE TRYING TOVAVACUE E AT THE SAME TIME ON AN ALREADY CONGESTED ROADWAY SYSTEM. BEACH PARK SHOULD BE GIVEN THE SAME CONSIDERATION AS THE AREA SOUTH OF GANDY CURRENTLY PROPOSED FOR FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY MORATORIUM. THE RESIDENTS OF BEACH PARK RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THIS COUNCIL CONSIDER ADDING THE COASTAL AREAS FROM KENNEDY BOULEVARD SOUTH TO BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD AS PART OF THE BUILDING MORATORIUM AREA. WE THANK COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THESE ISSUES. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT UP, WE HAVE SCOTT, AND THEN JOHN MUELLER. >> A RELATIVELY RECENT MEMBER OF THE BEACH PARK COMMUNITY, MY WIFE AND I MOVED HERE ABOUT A YEAR AGO. I HAVE BEEN A LONG-TIME MEMBER, WE BOTH ARE PAST RESIDENTS OF TAMPA BUT WE MOVED TO SOUTH TAMPA AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN PARTICULAR FOR THE BENEFIT THAT IT PROVIDES, AND WITHOUT BELABORING THE POINTS MADE BY MY NEIGHBORS, THAT BEING THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC AND FORGIVE SY. I WOULD A EMPHASIS SEW OF THE SPECIFICS ABOUT THAT. IN TERMS OF PRIVACY, THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY MUCH A RESIDENTIAL AND PEDESTRIAN NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE ARE OUT RIDING BIKES, WALKING THEIR DOGS, ON A DAILY BASIS, UNLIKE ANY OTHER COMMUNITY I LIVED IN, IN TAMPA, AND IT'S A VERY UNIQUE ATTRACTION TO US AS WE FRANKLY MOVED HERE TO LOOK TO RETIRE IN THIS COMMUNITY. OUR HOUSE IS RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF AZEELE AND O'BRIEN SEEEET. THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHILE NOT PHYSICALLY IN OUR BACKYARD, LITERALLY IS GOING TO IMPACT US AS IF IT WERE IN OUR BACKYARD BOTH IN TERMS OF THE OVERFLOW FROM VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AND ALSO PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, THE PEOPLE WALKING AND BIKING. THEY ABSOLUTELY WILL BE FILTERING TO OUR COMMUNITY AND OVERCROWDING THAT MORE THAN IT ALREADY IS. IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC I UNDERSTAND THE EXPERTS WILL SPEAK TO THAT. EVERYBODY WANTS TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT ABOUT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC. NOW, I AM TELLING YOU THAT LIVING RIGHT ON AZEELE, THERE IS A HH H NUERER OF VEHICLES THAT COME ALL THE WAY THROUGH DALE MABRY AND BEYOND RIGHT THROUGH AZEELE ALL THE WAY BECAUSE IT'S AN EASY ACCESS IN THEIR MIND TO BE 275. SO WE HAVE ALREADY, NO MATTER WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY MATE REFLECT, AN ELEVATED NUMBER OF OUT OF NEIGHBORHOOD VEHICLES COMING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS A PASS-THROUGH. NOT THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT NECESSARILY WOULD INCREASE THE VOLUME, BUT IT CERTAINLY WON'T LESSEN IT, AND IT WILL BE AN IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I UERERSTAND THAT THIS IS SLUMPLY AS A DEVELOPER PUT IT A REQUEST FOR TWO SMALL REVISIONS TO THE PLAN. AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH BY NEIGHBORS THAT IF H WE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE INITIAL DISCUSSION WE WOULD HAVE VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED THE DEVELOPMENT FROM THE GET-GO. IT'S SIMPLY NOT IN CHARACTER WITH OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD SINGLE-FAMILY LAYOUT OF THE PROPERTIES, AND I THINK IT WILL BE HAVE ADVERSE IMPACT BOTH ON THE LIFESTYLE AND THE INVESTMENT THAT WE HAVE MADE IN THIS PROPERTY. OUR PROPERTY VALUES UNQUESTIONABLY ARE GOING TO GO DOWN WITH THIS TYPEF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN OUR AREA. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT UP, JOHN MUELLER. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMAN. MY NAME IS JOHN MUELLER. I AT THE INTERSECTION OF AZEELE STREET AND -- BOULEVARD; [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] AND WE HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 1976. A FEW DECADE AGO, THE CITY AZEELE STREET AND CLEVELAND STREET BYPLACING TRAFFIC ON ROOSEVELT BOULEVARD, BUT DISSUADE COMMUTERS FROM USING SECONDARY ROADS RATHER THAN A SLOWER ROUTE ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD. [~DISTORTION~] AT THE INTERSECTION OF CLEVELAN- COUNCILMEN, OFF CONGESTION PROBLEM. I'M SORRY. COUNCILMEN, YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A CONGESTION PROBLEM WHEN -- LASTLY, MANY YEARS AGO, EAST KENNEDY VIA CLEVELAND STREET. [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] . THE FIRST ONE IS AZEELE AT WESTSHORE WHERE THERE IS A LONG WAIT TIME TRAFFIC LIGHT. THE SECOND IS HOOVER BOULEVARD AT KENNEDY FOR THE APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT. CLEVELAND STREET AT WESTSHORE WHERE E THEES NO TRAFFIC LIGHT. COUNCILMEN, THIS PROJECT AND SIMILAR FUTURE PROJECTS -- INCREASE THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AND INCREASE THE APPROXIMATE TAX BASE, SO THAT MONEY IS AVAILABLE, AND NEED A TRAFFIC IMPACT BY INCREASE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY. I OPPOSE THIS PROJECT FOR THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION CONCERNS OUTLINED AND THE IMPACT TO QUALITY OF LIFENJNJOY B BY T THE RESIDENTS OF BEACH PARK. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO BRING IN THE NEXT GROUP. TO SPEAK. I SEE -- I'M SORRY, I SEE CASTALANO. IS THERE GOING TO BE A COURTNEY OR DID YOU BOTH REGISTER? >> MY NAME IS -- >>> WAIT JUST A M MINEE I.WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE WAS A SEPARATION. WHO ELSE DO WE HAVE ON THE LINE? >> MY NAME IS DR. DOMINIQUE CASTALOUISIANA LANO. MY WIFE WAS TO SPEAK AS WELL. MY NEIGHBOR WAS UNABLE TO REGISTER SO MY WIFE GAVE UP HER SLOT SO HE COULD SPEAK. AND THEN MY TIME FOR MY EXPERIENCE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S BRING THE NEXT GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON AND WE'LL SWEAR THEM IN. >>THE CLERK: MR. DOMINIQUE CASTELLANO, YOU NEED TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO. >> IS IT NOT ON? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN HEAR YOU BUT WE CAN'T SEE YOUR FACE. >> WEB CAMS, ALL. I CLICKED IT. OH, MY GOSH. I'M VERY SORRY. I HAVE GOT MY VOICE ON AND WHAT I THINK I AM VIEWING THE VIDEO. SO I AM NOT SURE HOW TO CHANGE THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I'M VERY SORRY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. WHO ELSE DO WE HAVE THAT'S LOGGED IN? >> I HAVE CAROLYN BEACHLER. SHE NEEDS TO ENABLE HER VIDEO AS WELL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY. >>THE CLERK: ALONG WITH ALFREDO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. CAROLYN BEACHER, IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA ON. I SEE CAROLYN. I DO NOT SEE DOMINICK. >> LET ME SEE IF I C CAN -- THIS IS INTERESTING. CAN YOU SEE ME NOW? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO. >> WELL, HE DON'T KNOW WHAT I CAN DO DIFFERENTLY, SO I APOLOGIZE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. THE ONE PERSON I SEE, IS IT DR. INGA? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL START WITH YOU. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND SO WE CAN SWEAR YOU IN. >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRURUTH >>>> I DO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> OKAY. I MOVED TO MARINER BEACH IN 1988. I THINK THE MAIN CONCERN -- IN 1982, HURRICANE ELENA, WE WERE L LIVGG THERE, AND AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING, AWAKENED BY THE POLICE, SO PEOPLE HAVE TO TAKE THEIR CHILDREN, EVERYTHING, TO MOVE IN TWO HOURS, AND THEN IT WAS ALL TRAUMATIC. AND THE THIS IS A REAL DEPROBLEM. MY SEAWALL IS NEXT TO THE WATER. SO WANT TO -- WHEN IT RAINS, A COUPLE OF TIMES, SO THIS IS VERY CLOSE [~INDISCERNIBLE~] YOU KNOW THE LEVEL OF THE OCEAN IS RISING. IN FACT, UNDERWATER, NOW LIKE I TOLD YOU, I HAVE TO RAISE MY SEAWALL. NOW YOU WANT TO ADD? I THINK THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE MATTERS, PEOPLE AT RISK. A STRONG PROCEDURE TO ALLOW THIS, IN MY OPINION, EH, LACK OF, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT, B BUT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE LIVING HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. ALL RIGHT. COME KNICK CASA LAN OH, WE SEE YOU. DOMINICK CASA LAN OH. >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> YES, I DO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. SO AS A NATIVE TO TAMPA, I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE I HAVE BEEN AN INFANT, AND I HAVE GONE TO HIGH SCHOOL, I WENT TO MEDICAL SCHOOL, AND ONLY WENT AWAY FOR RESIDENCY AND TRAINING. I HAVE SEEN TAMPA GROW, WHICH IS A GOOD THING. HOWEVER, WHAT I HAVE APPRECIATED, IN PARTICULAR PARTICULAR THE SOUTH TAMPA AREA, SOUTH OF KENNEDY, SEEMS TO BE DEVELOPING TOO FAST. THE GEOGRAPHY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THIS AREA IS DIFFERENT GUARD TO THE REST OF THOSE AREAS NORTH OF KENNEDY. IT'S HARDER TO COME TO OVERCROWDED BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVAVECCCCURRD ON THE SOUTH SIDE. AND WHAT I AM REFERENCING TO ARE THOSE AREAS THAT SOUTH OF GANDY. AND AS I HAVE LISTENED TO MULTIPLE MEETINGS TODAY AND OTHER HOMERS VOICED THEIR DISAPPROVAL, PARTICULARLY THOSE INDIVIDUALS SOUTH OF GANDY, WHAT I SEE IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW NOW IS GOING TO BECOME WHAT THEY ARE LIVING THROUGH, AND I THINK WHAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO THE FOREFRONT IS THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE APARTMENTS AND CONDOS AND TOWNHOMES SOUTH OF GANDY THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED. IN PARTICULAR WESTSHORE YACHT CLUB AS WELL AS THE MARININA OJOJECT. THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DONE THAT ARE GOING TO AFFECT WESTSHORE, NAMELY GEORGETOWN. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TOWNHOMES THAT GO IN THERE, AND IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN TOUCHED YET. IN ADDITION YOU HAVE WESTSHORE MALL. TO MY UNDERSTANDING IS GOING TO ALLOW 1500 UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THAT TOO IS NOT COMING TO DEVELOPMENT AND YET WESTSHORE YACHT CLUB IS GOING TO ADD ANOTHER TOWER AS WELL AS APPROXIMATELY 22 TOWNHOMES. SO I DO HAVE SOME UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE AND I LIVE IN THE WESTSHORE YACHT CLUB FOR NINE MONTHS. I GOT TO EXPERIENCE WHAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE SOUTH OF GANDY ARE GOING THROUGH. FROM RUSH HOUR IN THE MORNING AND EVENING IT'S CRAZY. YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT ROAD, BYPASS WESTSHORE, TRY TO GET TO MANHATTAN, GET ON KENNEDY -- EXCUSE ME, GET ON GANDY, AND THEN WORK YOUR WAY TOWARDS DALE MABRY TO WORK YOURSELVES NORTH. IN ADDITION, THIS BRINGS TO MY CONCERN FOR THE CURRENT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, BAY CENTER. IT'S A VERY LARGE BIDDING, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S BEEN A PROPOSAL FOR ANOTHER BUILDING AT 200 SOUTH HOOVER, AS WELL AS AN EVEVEN BIGGER BUILDIG AT 5600 MARINER STREET. AND MY POINT IS THAT WE ARE NOT READY FOR THIS. AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS, PARTICULARLY COUNCILMAN, GUDES AND -- THERE'S ALSO LIGHT POLLUTION. IN ADDITION BEE REQUEST NEVER NOTIFIED OF WHAT WAS GOING TO BE BUILT HERE AND I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 2018 ON MARINER AND I NEVER KNEW THEY WERE TRANCE IGGING THE BUILDING TO WHAT THEY ARE DOING NOW. AND I AM VERY FRUSTRATED BY THIS. THE ONLY REASON I HAPPENED TO FIND OUT WHAT'S BEING PROROPODD IS BECAUSE OF NEIGHBORS PUTTING OUT SIGNS TO MAKE US AWARE. THERE WAS NEVER ANY SIGNAGE TO NOTIFY US AS TO THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS BUILDING. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU REEVALUATE THIS, POSTPONE IT, TO ALLOW MYSELF AND OTHER NEIGHBORS AND CITIZENS INVOLVED TO BE A PART OF THIS. WE ARE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO WORK FOR THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ROW OF SPEAKERS. >>THE CLERK: CHAIR, WE HAVE CAROLYN ON THE LINE BUT SHE HAS NOT ENABLED HER VIDEO. NO ONE HAS HAS LOGGED ON. THAT WILL CONCLUDE THIS PORTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO CAN WE GO TO CAROLYN? >> SHE HAS NOT -- >>> CAROLYN BEACHLER, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND TURN YOUR CAMERA ON. IF NOT, THIS WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT. NO? WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WE WILL THEN GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT FOR REBUTTAL. AND YOU ASKED FOR TEN MINUTES.% IS THAT CORRECT, MR. MECHANIK? >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MARTIN SHELBY. I'M SPORE TO INTERRUPT. BUT IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME BY CITY COUNCIL, THE PURPOSE OF REBUTTAL IS TO HAVE THE APPLICANT HAVE THE LAST WORD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY. ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF NOT THEN WE CAN PROCEED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAS A QUESTION. GO AHEAD, SIR. JOJOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY. YES, IS STAFF STILL ON THE LINE? I HOPE SO. THERE'S RYAN. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE RAISED IN 2018 APPROVAL, AND THE IT APPEARS TO BE CARRYING OVER TO THIS REQUESTED APPROVAL, IS THE ISSUE OF A POSSIBLE WAIVER OF THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY STANDARD. AND ONE OR MORE OF THE FKSKS THAT SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT NOT ONLY AESTHETICS BUT ALSO THE MOBILITY STANDARD A PART OF THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY DISTRICT. CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF -- AND I READ THE STAFF REPORT, AND I READ YOUR COMMENTS BASICALLY SUMMARIZED AS, YOU KNOW, WELL, THEY WERE APPROVED ON THE EXISTING BUILDING, AND THEN THE 2018 TO WAIVE THE WESTSHORE STANDARD, SO IT MIGHT BE SORT OF WEIRD TO REQUIRE THE WESTSHORE STANDARARS . I THINK THAT SEEMS TO SUMMARIZE WHAT I READ. BUT ANYWAY, CAN HE LAB RATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? THEN I HAVE ONE OR TWO OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WILL RESERVE MY TIME. >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR, I WILL DO MY BEST BUT I THINK YOU KIND OF ANSWERED THE WAY I WOULD ANSWER. THE WAIVER WAS REQUESTED IN 2018. MENT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. AND THEY ARE PROVIDING THAT AS A ROLEOVER WAIVER IN THIS REQUEST% >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, MY QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, RYAN, BEFORE WE GET INTO IT, IS WHAT ARE THOSETATANDDSDS? CAN HE LAB RATE ON THOSE STANDARDS? BECAUSE IF WE ARE WAIVING SOMETHING, WE SHOULD KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE ARE WAIVING. >>RYAN MANASSE: I WOULD HAVE TO REFER TO THE CODE FOR THAT. I MEAN THERE'S A CODE SECTION FOR THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY STANDARD. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU GENERALIZE OR SHOULD WE REFER TO SOMEBODY ELSE? >>RYAN MANASSE: RANDY MAY HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE. I AM NOT AN URBAN DESIGN REVIEWER FOR IT SO I DON'T WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF A CODE SECTION THAT'S ESTABLISHED AND THEN MISS SOMETHING OUT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU KNOW WHAT? LET ME AHEHE RESIDENT EXPERT IN THE MIDDLE OF MY SCREEN, MR. COHEN. YOU PROBABLY DRAFTED MOST OF THE WESTSHORE STANDARDS, AND I TRUST YOU TO BE ABUNDANTLY HONEST BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS ARE. SO WHAT ARE THE STANDARDS, THE WESTSHORE STANDARDS THAT MIGHT BE APPLIED TO THIS BUILDING? WHAT IS THAT THE WE ARE BEING ASKED TO WAIVE? >> RANDY COEN: THE FIRST FOR BUILDING SETBACKS, WHICH THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY DOES PRETTY MUCH COMPLY WITH, MINIMUM OF 10 FEET MAXIMUM OF 20 FEET. THE ONLY AREA IN QUESTION WOULD BE THE AMENITY AREA WHICH IS RECOGNIZED AS THE PART OF THE SETBACK. SO OUR SETBACKS ARE GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TRASH COMPACTER ON THE VERY EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE WHERE THERE IS A FIVE FAT SETBACK FOR A CORNER OF THE COMPACTER ENCLOSURE. THE OTHER TWO LIKELY STANDARD TO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE WOULD BE FENESTRATION, IN OTHER WORDS THE BUILDING BEING EMBELLISHED, NOT BEING FLAT PLAIN. IT CERTAINLY IS NOT THAT WITH THE GLASS, THE RAILING, THE OTHER THINGS GOING ON. THE THIRD ITEM IS TRANSPARENCY ON THE GROUND LEVEL, WHICH I BELIEVE THIS PROJECT PROBABLY DOES MEET ALL OF. I HAVE NOT DONE THAT CALCULATION ON THE EXACT PERCENTAGE. BUT CERTAINLY SEEMS THAT IT WOULD MEET THAT AS WELL. AS A MATTER OF FACT IRONICALLY, WE HAVE A WAIVER IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF LOADING BERTHS DOWN TO TWO AS OPPOSED TO REQUIRED UNDER CODE F.THIS WERE IN THE OVERLAY WE WOULD NOT HAVE IN A WAIVER BECAUSE IN THE OVERLAY, ONLY ONE LOADING BERTH IS REQUIRED PER BUILDING T THA R REQRERES A ANY LOADING BERTH WHATSOEVER. SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING IS PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERLAY. WE ALSO HAVE CONNECTIONS TO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALKS, ET CETERA. A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON IN THIS PROJECT VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERLAY. HOWEVER, THE ISSUE BECOMES THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING WHICH IS A PART OF THIS PD. THAT WAS ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED BEFORE THE OVERLAY ACTUALLY EVEN APPLIED IN THIS AREA, WHICH IS WHY THIS WAIVER IS HERE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT THTHE SSSSIBITITY ASPECTS? THEY HAVE BEEN REFERENCED TO. YOU HAVE BEEN DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THEM OVER THE YEARS. >> BASICALLY, THIS PROJECT MEETS THE MOBILITY REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN THE OVERLAY WHICH BUILDINGS BROUGHT TO THE STREET FRONT, HAVING MAXIMUM SETBACK 20 FEET, MINIMUM OF 10, CONNECTIONS TO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALKS WHICH THISSING HAS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND I ALSO SAW REFERENCE TO THE HARTLINE. IT SAYS THE HARTLINE NUMBER 30 SERVICES THIS PROJECT. I HAVE GOT -- HARTLINE NUMBER 30 PROBABLY SERVICES WESTSHORE MALL CORRECT? >> POINT IN FACT THAT BOTH THE SERVICE FROM HARTLINE IS TO THE CORNER OF WESTSHORE AND KENNEDY. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 4,000, 4300 LINEAR FEET FROM THIS PARTICULAR SITE. THIS PROJECT WAS REQUIRED TO PUT IN A BUS STOP AS PART OF ITS ORIGINAL APPROVAL IF IN FACT HARTLINE DECIDED THEY WANTED A BUS STOP IN THE AREA BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO PROVIDE SERVICE. THEY IN FACT DID NOT WISH TO HAVE A BUS STOP THERE, WHICH IS THE REASON THERE IS NOT A BUS OPOP O ON THIS PROPERTY AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT. I KNOW WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT IT, AND IF HEART APPROACHES US REGARDING A BUS STOP BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO PUT TRANSIT IN THIS AREA, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY FAVORABLY RECEIVED. BUT THERE ARE NO PLANS WHATSOEVER FOR HART TO EXTEND THE BUS ROUTE INTO THIS AREA. EVEN IF THEY DID THE LANGUAGE OTHER THAN COMING ALL THE WAY TO THE FAR WESTERN END OF BAY CENTER DRIVE NEVER PROBABLY HAD LIFE. SO THAT ADDRESSES HART THE BEST I CAN AT THIS POINT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN CARLSON? >>BILL CARLSON: MR. COEN OR MR. MECHANIK, COULD YOU LET US KNOW, REMIND US, I THINK WE COVERED PART OF THIS AT A PRIOR MEETING BUT JUST REMIND US WHAT THE CURRENT DENSITY IS ALLOWED NOW AND HOW, WHAT THOSE TRAFFIC PATTERNS WOULD BE, THAT TRAFFIC VOLUME COMPARED TO WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING? >> I COULD ACTUALLY GIVE YOUOU THAT INFORMATION. THIS IS RANDY COEN, ADDRESSING THE PROJECT. >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE DID NOTHING, IT'S ALREADY APPROVED PRIOR FOR CERTAIN KIND OF TRAFFIC, AND THEN THIS NEW APPROVAL, IF IT WENT THROUGH, WOULD HAVE WHAT? RAND RAND SPEAKING OF PHASE 2, WE WOULD HAVE 2334 TRIPS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BUILDING UNDER THIS PROPOSAL, AND THERE WOULD BE 88 VEHICLE TRIPS. IN THE AFTERNOON, THE APPROVED NUMBER OF TRIPS ARE 236 TRIPS. THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE TRIPS THAT WOULD COME FROM THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX WOULD BE -- WHERE REDUCED AMOUNT OF UNITS WOULD BE 105 TRIPS. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE 135 TRIPS LESS IN THE MORNING AND 131 TRIPS LESS IN THE AFTERNOON THAN APPROVED WHICH WOULD BE THE LARGE RECTANGULAR BUILDING WITH EITHER OFFICE OR MULTIFAMILY OR HOTEL. >>BILL CARLSON: JUST IF SOMEONE FROM THE CITY CAN CONFIRM THAT. IF WE DID NOTHING TODAY, THE CON FIG FIGURATION HE JUST SAID WOULD BE THE REALITY IF THEY WANTED TO BUILD THAT, CORRECT? THE APPROVAL HAS ALREADY BEEN GIVEN IN THE PAST? >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. SO IT WAS THERE AN APPROVAL OBVIOUSLY IN 2018, MAYBE BEFORE, AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC INFORMATION. MELANIE -- I C COU C CONFER WITH HER, RELATE OVER TO HER ABOUT TRAFFIC GENERATION TRIPS. BUT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THE ZONING THAT IS APPROVED. >>MELANIE CALLOWAY: TRANSPORTATI ON PLANNING. RYAN IS CORRECT. THEY ARE ALREADY APPROVED, AND I AGREE WITH RANDY ON HIS TRIP ANALYSIS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN% THOSE TWO USES. >>BILL CARLSON: IF I COULD GET EITHER OF YOU, MR. COEN OR MS. CALLOWAY, SINCE THE PUBLIC DOESN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK AGAIN, THE NUMBERS YOU JUST LOOKING AT THE RAW NUMBERS SHOW THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE MUCH WORSE OFF WITH AN ALREADY APPROVED OFFICE BUILDING THAN THEY WOULD WITH THIS OTHER PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAVE. AND THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF SKEPTICISM, AND WE CAN'T HEAR WHAT THEY ARE SAYING RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY PROBABLY WOULD THINK OTHERWISE. I MEAN, IN EITHER OF YOUR EXPERIENCE, HOW ARE THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS DIFFERENT FOR AN OFFICE BUILDING VERSUS RESIDENTIAL, AND HOW -- WHAT ARE THE PROS AND CONS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD? >> RANDY COEN, IF YOU WILL. FIRST AND FEMEMOS THE REASON WE HAVE LESS TRAFFI IS BECAUSE BUILDING 546 DWELLING UNITS. THE PROPOSAL IS TO BUILD 292. THAT'S A 48% DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS, 50% DECREASE IN TRAFFIC. SO THOSE ARE THE PERTINENT ISSUES OF WHAT HAPPENS. THERE WILL BE LESS PROJECT TRAFFIC ON THE STREETS AS A RESULT OF THE APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST IF YOU DO SO. FROM A TRAFFIC STANDARD, TRAFFIC PATTERN SNDNDPOT,T, I HAVE LIVED IN BEACH PARK FOR THE LAST 47 YEARS. I ACTUALLY SPENT 10, 12 YEARS OF MY LIFE WORKING IN OFFICE BUILDINGS IN THE KOEGER OFFICE PARK. THE DISTRIBUTION OF TRAFFIC IS VIRTUALLY THE SAME FOR RESIDENTIAL AS IT IS FOR OFFICE. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE OF COURSE IS IN THE MORNING, RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC IS LEAVING THE RESIDENTIAL UNIT, WHERE TRAFFIC IS COMING TO THE OFFICE IN THE AFTERNOON OR THE REVERSE. THE PATTERNS ARE THE SAME. IT'S SIMPLY A MATTER OF IS IT COME IN IN THE MORNING OR GOING OUT IN THE MORNING? SAME IN THE AFTERNOON. >>BILL CARLSON: ONE LAST QUESTION. SINCE THE ENTITLEMENT ON THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE WAS DONE A LONG TIME AGO, IF THEY CAME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL THAT MET THE CRITERIA THEY ARE ALREADY APPROVED FOR, THERE'S IN A WAY CITY COUNCIL OR THE CITY COULD STOP IT, IS THAT CORRECT? >>RYAN MANASSE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. THAT IS CORRECT SIR. SO IF A PD DOESN'T GO DEVELOPED FOR FIVE YEARS IT HAS TO GO THROUGH A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE THIS CASE, LAST WAS APPROVED IN 2018. UNRSRSTOOD THAT PREVIOUSELOP REZONING PLAN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. MECHANIK, GO AHEAD WITH YOUR REBUTTAL. >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, SIR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF. I ACTUALLY HAVE ABOUT ELEVEN MINUTES SO I WILL KEEP MY REBUTTAL TO NINE MINUTES IF I ASKED FOR 20 MINUTES. THE FIRST COMMENT IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN REFEFERCECE T THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA. AND OF COURSE AS COUNCIL KNOWS, ALL OF THESE POLICIES TALK ABOUT NOT INCREASING POPULATION, AND AS WE HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WE ARE NOT INCREASING POPULATION, WE ARE DECREASING POPULATION BY ABOUT 48%. SO AGAIN ALL THOSE COMMENTS ARE REALLY MISS DIRECTED GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS PROPOSED PROJECT LLLL HEE LESS TRAFFIC, LESS POPULATION THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY APPROVED ON THE PROPERTY. SO THE CITATION TO THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD IS NOT APPROPRIATE. THE ATTORNEY HASN'T DEMONSTRATED THAT WE HAVEN'T COMPLIED WITH THE BUILDING CODE OR REGULATIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE PRACTICES LAW, BUT YOU DON'T SUBMIT NO -- LAND AS PART OF THE ZONING. WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED T T DEMONSTRATE THAT OUR CONSTRUCTION PLAN MEETS FLORIDA BUILDING CODES, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THE CITY OF TAMPA WILL REQUIRE US TO MEET THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE AND THE FEMA REGULATIONS. AND THIS BUILDING WILL -- THE MINIMUM FLOOD ELEVATION AND BE LESS FLOOD PRONE THAN ALL OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IN THE BEACH PARK AREA. LET ME TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOARD, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND RANDY HAS PUT UP THE MEMO. APPARENTLY THAN THE ATTORNEYS DIDN'T -- WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM FROM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND I WILL JUST QUOTE THE APPROPRIATE -- STATED WHAT THEY CALLED AN ADEQUATE FACILITIES ANALYSIS, AND THEIR CONCLUSION WAS THE CAPACITY DOES EXIST IN ADJACENT CONCURRENCY AREAS AT THE ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL. THIS IS ALREADY PART OF O OUR RECORD OF OUR APPLICATION, BUT WE WILL BE HAPPY TO RESUBMIT IT TO THE CLERK IN THE MORNING. THERE IS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT INCOMPATIBILITY, AND THE COMPARISON WAS MADE BETWEEN OUR PROPOSED BUILDING AT 9 STORIES, AND A NUMBER OF 4-STORY OFFICE BUILDINGS IN THE KROEGER CENTER. THE ATTORNEY DID NOT CARE TO MENTION THAT WE ARE ADJACENT TO TWO EIGHT-STOTORY CONDO TOWERS, AND YOUR STAFF THROUGH MR. MANASSE OFFERED A DIRECT CONCLUSION IN HIS REPORT THAT WE WERE COMPATIBLE REGARDING SITE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF WHO MADE THAT DETERMINATION. FINALLY, THE SUGGESTION THAT WE ARE NOT -- OR THAT WE ARE INCREASING ON FIELD D DEPDEDENTS ALSO SALACIOUS IN N THAT WE ARE REDUCING POPULATION, AND WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE TRANSIT IF IT WERE AVAILABLE ANYWHERE NEAR THE PROPERTY. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CONCLUDE BY REFERRING TO A COMMENT MADE BY ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES ON THE OUR FIRST HEARING. WHAT MR. DINGFELDER SAID WAS THEY COULD GO OUT AND BUILD 546 UNITS TOMORROW. IF IT WAS ME, I'D RATHER SEE 292 UNITS THAN 546 UNITS. AND WITH THAT, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE VERY SIMPLE FACT THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THIS CASE. THIS PROPOSAL IS LESS TRAFFIC, LESS POPULATION, WILL HAVE LESS IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES. SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING. WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL? WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS ITEM? COUNCILMAN VIERA, YES, SIR. >>LUIS VIERA: I READ AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 542626 B BAY CENTER DRIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, MEDICAL, HOTEL RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, MEDICAL HOTEL RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MR. MANASSE? RYAN RUIN PLEASE CLUE THE REVISED REVISION SHEETS FOR THE THE PROPOSED HE ADDITION. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. SO INCLUDED. I HAD FORGOTTEN. THANK YOU. >>> VERY GOOD. MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER VIERA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER CARLSON. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>GUIDOO MANISCALCO: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH GUDES DINGFELDER MANISCALCO AND CITRO VOTING NO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. WE NEED A MOTION, MR. SHELBY? >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WAS CALLED OUT OF THE ROOM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MOTION FAILED FOR APPROVAL. 4 TO 3. 3 TO 4. >>>>MARTIN SHELBY: WELLS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE THEN? A REMAINDER THAT YOUR DECISIN MUST BE BASED ON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD, AND CERTAINLY IF COUNCIL HAS CERTAIN PARTICULAR FINDINGS OF FACT THAT IT WISHES TO MAKE, RELATIVE TO BE THAT, THEN YOU SHOULD INCLUDE THOSE AS WELL. THE MAKER OF THE MOTION CAN ALWAYS GET SUPPORT FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. IF COUNCI MEMBERS SEE SO FIT. SO COUNCIL? WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A COMMENT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AT THIS POINT, MY CONCERNS -- I HEARD WHAT MR. CARLSON SAID, AND FRANKLY, I SAID THE SAME THING AT THE VERY FIRST HEARING, THAT AS A MATTER OF RECORD, IN REGARD TO THE NUMBER OF UNITS, AND FRANKY THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL TRIPS, THE NUMBER OF UNITS, I BELIEVE, HAS BEEN REDUCED FROM THE 2018 APPROVAL TO 546 UNITS TO 292 UNITS, AND STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER HAVE INDICATED THE SAME REDUCTION IN NUMBER OF TRIPS. AT LEAST MORNING AND A.M. AND P.M. PEAK TRIPS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN. WITH NO MOTION ON THE FLOOR -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS AHEAD OF THE MOTION. >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU. OTHERWISE, IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING SOMETHING THAT'SS INING TO REQUIRE TESTIMONY OR QUESTIONS OR ANSWERS, THEN THE HEARING SHOULD BE REOPENED. BUT -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS JUST SORT OF REITERATING TESTIMONY. BUT MY CONCERN, AS I STATED EARLIER, I BELIEVE THEY ARE ASKING FOR VARIANCE WAIVERS. THEY ARE ASKING FOR WAIVER OF WESTSHORE OVERLAY DISTRICT, STANDARD, THEY ARE ASKING FOR SIGNAGE WAIVERS, FRANKLY I DIDN'T HEAR ANY TESTIMONY JUSTIFYING, THEY ARE ASKING FOR LOADING BERTH WAIVER, AND SEVERAL OTHER WAIVERS THAT I SAW. I DON'T BELIEVE T THA T THE'S'S BEEN ADEQUATE TESTIMONY JUSTIFYING THOSE WAIVERS ON ONE HAND. I ALSO THINK THAT THE STAFF REPORT WAS INACCURATE AS RELATED TO THE HART BUS, THE HART BUS NUMBER 30 IS ALMOST A MILE AWAY AT THE INTERSECTION. SO I THINK THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH THIS APPLICATION. I WOULD GIVE THE PETITIONER THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE THIS, TO ADDRESS THOSE WAIVERS, IF THEY WANT TO ELIMINATE THE WAIVERS ANT JUST COMES DOWN TO REDUCTION IN NUMBER OF UNITS, THEN THIS COUNCILMAN MIGHT BE MORE AMENABLE TO APPROVING IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MIRANDA HAS HIS HAND UP. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY MOTION IS TO ALLOW THEM, GIVE THEM SIXTY DAYS, NINETY DAYS, WHATEVER THEY DESIRE, TO COME BACK WITH A REVISED PLAN THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE WAIVERS THAT I MENTIONED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, IF I CAN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, MS. WELLS IS LOOKING TO BE RECOGNIZED. >>GUID MANISCALCO: EVERYBODY'S HANDS -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: I UNDERSTAND BUT I ASK THAT YOU LISTEN TO THE ATTORNEY FIRST, PLEASE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. WELLS THEN COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CATE WELLS: CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. WITH RESPECT TO THE WAIVERS THAT WERE DISCUSSED, I WOULD ADVISE COUNCIL THAT THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAIVERS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED ON PAGE 1 OF YOUR STAFF REPORT ITEMS 1 THROUGH 4, THOSE WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND ARE NOT REALLY BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY A DIFFERENT -- >>CATE WELLS: AND WITH REGARD TO WAIVERS NUMBER 5 AND 6. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. I RESPECTFULLY DIFFER. THOSE WAIVERS WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AS RELATED TO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROJECT. THIS PROJECT IS A NEW PD. IF IT WASN'T A THAN NEW PD IT WOULDN'T BE IN FRONT OF US. SO -- SO I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE. I THINK THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR THOSE WAIVERS, THAT WE HAVE A RIGHT TO EVALUATE THOSE WAIVERS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S BEEN COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO JUSTIFY THOSE WAIVERS, AND THEREFORE THUS MY SUGGESTION OF A SIXTY TO NINETY DAY CONTINUANCE TO GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO REVISE THIS NEW SITE PLAN TO ADDRESS THOSE WAIVERS. SO THAT'S MY MOTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I CAN'T IN ANY WAY -- AND FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING TODAY ON THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 39 ON THE AGENDA, OR ANY OTHER ITEM THAT COMES BEFORE ME, IN THE PAST, TODAY OR IN THE FUTURE. ONCE A VOTE IS TAKEN FOR EITHER YAY OR NAY, TO BE OPENED, NOT EVEN TO REOPEN BUT TO ASK, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY YAY OR THE OTHER TO VOTE NO, AND FOR THE ONES THAT VOTED YES TO VOTE NO OR WHATEVER. IT IS IN THE RECORD BOOKS. THE GAME IS OVER. ONCE YOU OPEN, YOU CAN OPEN UP A CAN OF WORMS, AND THE ABILITY TO DEFEND ARE GOING TO BE AWFUL NIL. AND I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY AND I AM NOT A JUDGE. BUT IN THESE CASES, ONCE A VOTE IS TAKEN, IN MY OPINION, YOU CANNOT SAY IF YOU COME BACK WITH VOTE FOR YOU.E I AM GOING T T WHETHER IT'S ME, AND I AM TALKING ABOUT MYSELF, NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. I HAVE NO RIGHT TO GO ON AND SAY THAT I VOTED YAY OR NAY. I VOTED MY CONVICTION ON WHAT I SAW HERE ON THE RECORD, WHAT I SAW HERE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SAYING THAT THERE'S CAPACITY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, ON THE ITEMS THAT I SAW THAT WERE REGARDING THE DISPOSITION OF A YAY OR A NAY VOTE. NEW BASED ON ANY OTHER FACTS OTHER THAN ONES THAT I HAVE HEARD. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>>>GUOO MISISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER HAS A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION THEN? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION WAS TO CONTINUE IT FOR SIXTY OR NINETY DAYS. I WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO PETITIONER TO ADDRESS THE WAIVERS THAT I MENTIONED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? >> [OFF MICROPHONE] >>LUIS VIERA: ARE WE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE PETITIONER? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS MY POINT BEFORE WE VOTED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE'S GOT TO BE A SECOND. >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION SECONDED BY VIERA. MR. MECHANIK, YOU HEARD COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND HIS MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM FOR SIXTY, NINETY DAYS. I HAVE THE CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME. >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND CAN I STOP IN CASE MR. MECHANIK WANTS TO OFFER ANY FACTS? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHOULD WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. MR. MECHANIK. >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. MR. DINGFELDER, WE ADDRESSED THE WAIVERS AT THE FIRST HEARING. I DIDN'T WANT TO GOP THROUGH THEM ALL AGAIN BECAUSE WE HAD ADDRESSED THOSE. BUT IF WE COULD BE PERMITTED, I WOULD ASK MR. COEN TO ADDRESS BOTH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAIVERS AND THE PROPOSED NEW ONES, AND I WOULD SAY FOR THE RECORD, I AGREE WITH MS. WELLS, THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAIVERS, IF YOU WILL, RUN WITH THE LAND, BUT I WILL ASK RANDY TO ADDRESS ALL OF THEM AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AGAIN FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD JUST SAY THEY RUN WITH THE LAND IF YOU STICK WITH THE SAME PD. YOU VOLUNTARILY COME HERE -- AND I AM JUST PUTTING THIS ON THE RECORD -- YOU ARE VOLUNTARILY COMING HERE WE CAN A NEW PD. AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU ARE ASKING FOR THOSE WAIVERS TO CARRY OVER. I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY AUTOMATICALLY CARRY OVER. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN ALSO, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE HEARING FRANKLY WAS REOPENED WITH THE PURPOSE OF ADDRESSING THE MOTION THAT WAS ON THE FLOOR, SO ULTIMATELY IT WILL BE -- THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE POSED TO THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICANT'S RHYTHM DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT TO BEGIN THERE OR END THERE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS EXPLANATION IS GOING TO TAKE. MAYBE COUNCIL WISHES TO BE GET A SENSE OF HOW LONG THIS DISCUSSION IS GOING TO GO ON TO ABLE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE. CONTINUANCE WHICH IS THE PURPOSE OF OPENING THE HEARING. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS CONTINUED FOR SIXTY OR NINETY DAYS? >>DAVID MECHANIK: MR. CHAIRMAN, WE WOULD -- IF THAT'S AN OPTION, WE WOULD TAKE A SIXTY DAY CONTINUANCE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY. NO MA'AM. >> HELLO? I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO. I'M SORRY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE HEARING, THE TESTIMONY IS OVER. ALL RIGHT. IT'S APRIL 1st. JUNE 17th WOULD BE -- OR JUNE 3rd WILL BE S SIXTY DAYS OUT. MR. MECHANIK? >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, SIR. WE WOULD ACCEPT THAT IF IT'S PERMISSIBLE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT MEANS I HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE MY VOTE, RIGHT? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH RYAN RUIN I WANT TO CLARIFY THEN, PARTICULARLY THE APPLICANT REQUESTING -- I KNOW YOU ARE MOTIONING FOR A CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 3rd, BUT WHAT EXACTLY ARE THEY DOING THROUGH THIS CONTINUANCE, JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR THE WAIVERS, I GUESS THEY ARE ADDRESSING? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE MY NOTES ARE CLEAR. MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST -- [NO ENCODER] [NO ENCODER] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK A WEEK AGO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHY MEETINGS GO SO LONG AND I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS IS THAT WE CONTINUE A LOT OF THEM. AND I WOULD RAFT JUST VOTE UP OR DOWN, AND THEN THE COMMUNITY WILL LEARN, THE ATTORNEYS OR OTHERS WILL LEARN, YOU KNOW, HOW WE MAKE DECISIONS AND BRING THE RIGHT INFORMATIONON A T THEIGIGT TIME. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THE MOTION WOULD BE CONTINUE THIS TO JUNE 3rd UNDER 10:30 A.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS AT FIRST READING. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER -- YES, SIR? >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST WANT TO BEING CLEAR. NOW, MR. MECHANIK, IS IT YOUR REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE OR YOU HAD NO OBJECTION TO CONTINUANCE? I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT IT IS. >>DAVID MECHANIK: WE HAVE NO -- WE DO NOT OBJECT TO THE CONTINUANCE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, THANK YOU. MOTION TO CLOSE, PLEASE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTIOIONROM COUNCILMAN GUDES. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO JUNE 3rd, 10:30 A.M. PUBLIC HEARING FROM COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER. AND WE HAD THE SECOND FOR DISCUSSION, OR SECOND FROM VIERA CORRECT? ALL RIGHT. AND THIS IS FOR THE CONTINUANCE. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>BILL CARLSON: NO. >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO. >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH MANISCALCO, CARLSON AND CITRO AND MIRANDA VOTING NO. >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR DENIAL? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS ISN'T DENIED ALREADY? >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR. ANY ACTION -- THIS IS A PUBLIC -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I STAND CORRECTED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE ASSUME THAT THAT AOMOMATICALLY HAPPENS. UNDERSTOOD THE CHARTER ANY OFFICIAL ACTION OF CITY COUNCIL REQUIRES AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE TO APPROVE OR DENY FOUR VOTES. SO COUNCIL, A MOTION IS IN ORDER. >>JOSEPH CITRO: I MOVE TO DENY REZ 20-103 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5426 BAY CENTER DRIVE DUE TO THE FAILURE OF THE APPLICANT TO MEET HIS BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT T DEVELOPMENT AS CONDITION AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CITY CODE APPLICATIONS, FURTHER TO MEET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF WITH RESPECT, BECAUSE IF THE WAIVER IS REQUESTED, COMPLY WITH SECTION 27-139 (4) THE APPLICANT CANNOT PROVIDE EVIDENCE THE DESIGN IS UNIQUE IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY THE WAIVERS, AND FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 27-1346 PURPOSE OF SITE PLAN DISTRICT, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN DOES NOT PROMOTE OR ENCOURAGE DEVELELOPNTNT TTT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE LOCATION, CHARACTER, AND COMPATIBILITY OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER CITRO. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER GUDES. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>LUIS VIERA: NO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO. >>BILL CARLSON: >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO DENY. >>BILL CARLSON: NO. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH VIERA, DINGFELDER, CARLSON AND MIRANDA VOTING NO. >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR. WHAT NOW? I KNOW. AND I JUST -- THANK YOU. WHAT NOW, MY LOVE? I THINK THAT THE PROPER THING PROBABLY TO DO, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. IAWAWIMIM DO A MOTION TO CONTINUE, WHICH WAS DENIED, AND THEN HE FLIPPED HIS VOTE. I THINK AGAIN, I WILL LET OUR FRIENDS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES BUT MAYBE I AM READING THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS, BUT I WILL LET JOHN SPEAK. I'M JUST SAYING. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU READ MY MIND. I THINK THAT WE HAVE SOME ISSUES. THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH THIS PROJECT. THE DEVELOPER HAD NO OBJECTION TO THE CONTINUANCE FOR 60 DAYS. AND I THINK THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO. SO MR. VIERA, IF YOU WANT TO MOVE THAT, I WILL BE GLAD. >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND IF IT'S ANYBODY'S INTENTION TO BE DO THAT, COULD YOU PLEASE MAKE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? >> SO MOVED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [OFF MICROPHONE] SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES. ALL IN FAVOR? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS REOPENED. >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY, I WILL MAKE AGAIN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S MOTION TO CONTINUE PURSUANT TO THE TERMS SPECIFIED WHICH I BELIEVE WERE SIXTY DAYS IF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE COULD DO IT TO A DATE AND TIME CERTAIN. >>GUIDO MANISCALALCO J JUN 3rd AT 10:30 A.M., SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR FIRST READING. >>MARTIN SHELBY: CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA. SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER GUDES. ROLL CALL. >>JOSEPH CITRO: >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: NO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON, MIRANDA AND MANISCALCO VOTING NO. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE ARE GOING TO HEAR THIS CASE A THIRD TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THAT SETTLES THE AGENDA. NOW WE GO TO STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS. NUMBER 40 FOR ADMINISTRATION UPDATE. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR THAT OR ANYTHING AT THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE OR COVID UPDATE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF THE CHIEF OF STAFF WAS ON. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING SPECIFIC. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DID ASK THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO DO A COVID UPDATE. HE'S AWARE OF IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 41 AND COME BACK TO IT. ITEM NUMBER 41 IS AN $11 MILLION ITEM. REGARDING COVID-19 EMERGENCY RELATED SERVICES ASSISTANCE FUND RECEIVES BY THE CITY TO BE USED BY THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE TO ELIGIBLE HOUSEHOLDS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. CAN I GET PERMISSION TO SHARE MY SCREEN PLEASE? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. WE CAN SEE IT. GO AHEAD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. INTERIM MANAGER FOR HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION. WITH ME HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS DEPARTMENT T TREURURYUNUNDHAHATE GOT, I DID GET THAT APPLICATION BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2020 TO APPLY FOR SOME FUND THAT COULD HELP OUR RESIDENTS WITH RENTAL ASSISTANCE. THIS WAS APPROVED -- THE FUNDING WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 14. AND THEN WE RECEIVED THE ACTUAL FUND ON THE 26th. THE CITY IS RECEIVING A LITTLE BIT OVER $12 MILLION, AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS GETTING ROUGHLY $32 MILLION, SO WE HAVE DISCUSSED JUST THE RESIDENTS FOR A JOINT EFFORT AND A A CENTRALID LOCATION. I WILL SAY THAT THE COUNTY ALSO EXTENDED THEIR GRATITUDE TO APPROVE US WORKING TOGETHER WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO FOCUS MORE ON ELIGIBILITY OF THE CLIENTS AND NOT JUST THAN THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA. ALSO FUNDS THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE PREVIOUS -- WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THE FUNDS IS STRICTLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNABLE TO PAY THEIR RENT, FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, NOT MORTGAGES AT THIS TIME. SO FUND CAN HELP THOSE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING ANY FINANCIAL HARDSHIP THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DUE TO COVID OR ANY ADDITIONAL CONSEQUENCES THAT THEY SUFFERED AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PANDEMIC. WE ARE DOING 7500 PASS-THROUGH RENT AND 750 FOR PASS-DUE -- AT THE TIME THAT THIS WAS APPROVED, THE FUND HAD TO BE EXPENDED BY DECEMBER 31st OF THIS YEAR. HOWEVER, WE DID GET SOME UPDATE AND THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY IS EXTENDING THE DEADLINE SO NOW WE WILL HAVE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30th, 2022 TO EXPEND ALL THE FUND. >> SO THE CITY WAS A LITTLE OVER 12 MILLION. HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY GOT ABOUT 32 MILLION. THE AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY HAS WITH THE COUNTY. WE ARE GOING TO DISTRIBUTE IN ONE CENTRALIZED LOCATION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO HEAR AT THE CITY, IS RETAIN A MILLION DOLLARS SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO CITY OF TAMPA RESIDENTS WHO ALSO HAVE OTHER PASS-THROUGH ABILITIES. SOME OF THEM YOU WILL S STI COME THROUGH BUT THE CITY OF TAMPA WATER, WASTEWATER AND TRASH GO FORWARD AND HELP THOSE WHO ARE UNABLE TO PAY THEIR WATER BILL, SO THE COUNTY WILL NOT BE FOCUSING ON THAT PORTION. SO COLLECTIVELY WE WILL BE PUTTING OUT OVER $40 MILLION IN ASSISTANCE TO RESIDENTS AND LANDLORDS TO THE RENTAL COMMUNITY. THE FOCUS, WE OPENED THE APPLICATION ALREADY. WE HAVE BEEN GETTING ABOUT 1,000 APPLICATIONS PER WEEK FOR THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED. WE HAVE HAD TO GIVE OPERATOR WHO WERE AT 350% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME OR BELOW. AND SO THEY HAVE GOTTEN THE OPERATOR OPEN TO THEM TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO EVERYBODY ELSE BEING ABLE TO GET IN THE SYSTEM. ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES WAS THE PROGRAM THIS TIME AROUND AND THE FUND WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY IS THAT IN THE PREVIOUS PROGRAMS THAT WE HAD, IT WAS STRICTLY THE TENANT THAT WAS APPLYING FOR IT, THIS TIME WE LANDLORD APPLICATIONS ALSO WHERE THE LANDLORD AND THE TENANT CAN WORK TOGETHER TO GET THE FUND AND MAKE SURE THAT THE L LANDLOS ARE MADE WHOLE IF THEY HAVE IN FACT PAST DUE RENT. WE ARE WORKING WITH ERNST & YOUNG WHO HAVE ABOUT 80 INDIVIDUALS MANNING A CALL CENTER ON ANY GIVEN DAY, CALLS ARE GOING UP TO 300 CALLS PER DAY. AS I SAID WE ARE GETTING ABOUT A THOUSAND APPLICATIONS IN PER WEEK, AND OUR GOAL IS TO GET A THOUSAND IN AND GET A THOUSAND OUT. SO AS QUICKLY AS THEY COME IN, THEY ARE BEING APPROVED. I PUT THE INFORMATION WHERE YOU CAN ACCESS THE PROGRAM AS WELL AS CONTACT ANY OF THE REPRESENTATIVES AT THE CALL CENTER, ANAND EYEY A OPEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY TAKING THOSE CALLS FROM 8 A.M. TO 6 P.M. WE STARTED THE EFFORT BACK IN MARCH, MID MARCH, WHERE WE OPENED UP WITH THE LANDLORD FIRST, EXPLAINING WHAT THE PROGRAM REALLY WAS. YOU GET DID A FEW LANDLORD WORKSHOPS. AGAIN, THE PREVIOUS PROGRAMS WHEN WE DID THEM. LANDLORDS DIDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW ABOUT THE PROGRAM, AND WE WANTED TO AVOID TENANTS GETTING CHECKS AND NOT GOING TO THE LANDLORDS, AND ULTIMATELY THEN US HINING A HUGE FORECLOSURE PROBLEM. AND SO THE LANDLORDS ARE WORKING WITH US. SO TODAY, WE HAVE ABOUT 130 APPLICATIONS ACTUALLY IN PROCESS OUT OF 1,000, AND THAT'S REALLY BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE MISSING SOME DOCUMENTS AND JUST GIVING THEM ADDITIONAL TIME TO COME BACK AND BRING WHAT'S MISSING. WE HAVE OVER 500 LANDLORDS REGISTERED, THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN LOGGED, OVER A THOUSAND, AND THAT REALLY KIND OF GOES TO ABOUT 42,000 UNITS SPECIFICALALLY YOYOUANAN SEE THE. WE HAVE REALLY GOTTEN A BUNCH OF CALLS AND WE HAVE JUST GIVEN A LITTLE -- WE ARE GETTING MORE TENANT CALL-INS TO LANDLORDS. WHEN THE LANDLORDS REGISTER AND THE TENANTS REGISTER, IT DOES ALERT US TO KNOW THAT IT'S THE SAME ADDRESS THAT'S COME IN TO AVOID DUPLICATION OF EFFORTS AND BENEFITS SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT CORRECTLY SO THEY CAN BE STRETCHED AS MUCH AS THEY CAN. WE WILL RECEIVE PROGRAM REPORTS. WE ARE GOING TOOE GETTING REPORTS EVERY TUESDAY AND EVERY THURSDAY FROM THE COUNTY, AS WELL AS I HAVE ACCESS TO GO IN AND LOOK AT THE DASHBOARD SO THAT WE CAN SEE RESIDENTS BEING SERVED. ANY QUESTIONS? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS BY CITY COUNCIL? HEARING -- GO AHEAD, SIR. >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ONE QUICK ONE. I IT SOUND LIKE YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB COMMUNICATING TO PEOPLE WHO APPLY FOR IT. IF THERE IS SOME OTHER MECHANISISM, PLEASE COMMUNICATEO THE ACTIVIST GROUPS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THIS SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT WE ARE DOING THIS AS WELL. I APPRECIATE THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO BE MOVE THIS? MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ROLL CALL VOTE BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VRARA: ESES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS AND WE WILL BE BACK. .[ CITY COUNCIL RECESS ] (ROLL CALL). >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 42. WE HAVE A MEMO FROM BRAD BAIRD. WE MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE MEETING THAT WE DON'T NEED HIM HERE. CAN I GET A MOTION TOOVOVE THIS? MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. VIERA WITH THE SECOND. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION. JUST WANTED TO AGAIN GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO MR. BAIRD AND HIS TEAM AND MR. BENNETT REGARD TO THE BBE PERCENTAGES, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE ALSO VERY HIGH ON THIS PROJECT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD. THAT MEANS THE ADMINISTRATION IS LISTENING. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. WHO WAS THE SECOND? VIERA WAS THE SECOND. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: Y YES >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 43, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE. AND WE HAVE A MEMO FROM CHEF TRIPP. CHIEF TRIPP IS DOWNSTAIRS ON THE SECOND FLOOR OR VIRTUALLY. CHEF TRIPP, THERE SHE IS. YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD. YES, MA'AM, O AHEAD. >>CHIEF TRIPP: INTERIM FIRE CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP D.ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE MEMO? >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO JUST MAKE A FEW COMMENTS ON IT. MAY I, MR. CHAIR? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OF COURSE. YES SIR. >>LUIS VIERA: I APPRECIATE IT. FIRST CHIEF TRIPP, YOU AND I ARE ALWAYS IN COMMUNICATION, BUT AGAIN I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK AND FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM A D THANK YOU TO THE CASTER ADMINISTRATION FOR BEING SUCH A STELLAR PARTNER ON PUBLIC SAFETY. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY, AND YOU KNOW THIS BECAUSE I COMMUNICATED WITH YOU ON THIS, I WENT OUT WITH JOE GRECO TO FIRE STATION 13 BECAUSE WE SAW THE STATISTICS THAT YOU SHOWED US, WHICH ARE WONDERFUL. IT APPEARS THAT THERE'S ABOUT A 15% IMPROVEMENT, WHICH IS REALLY GOOD FOR SUCH A SHORT TIME. I MEAN, THAT'S A BIG ENGINE, RIGHT? SO IT'S GOT TO MAKE AN IMPACT. BUT I SPOKE OF JOE AND I SPOKE TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OVER AT STATION 13 TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE STATISTICS WERE RESULTING IN ATUAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THEM IN TERMS OF FEELING, AND THEY SAID YES. SO, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY GOT AN AIR CONDITIONER THERE WHICH IS GOOD, BUT MORE HELP IS ON THE WAY. I KNOW THAT'S YOUR MESSAGE AND WHAT NOT. AND I NOTICE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, LIKE I TOLD YOU, THIS IS A SINGLE -- THAT'S GOOD. WE GOT ON FIRST BASE BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A HOME RUN FOR NORTH TAMPA, WE NEED TO HAVE A HOME RU. AS NOW THE BIGGEST STATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, ONE OF THE BUSIEST IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ONE OF 23 STATIONS, BUT THAT REGION TAKES UP ABOUT ONE IN SEVEN CALLS, AS NOW, IT HAS ABOUT 10,000 CALLS A YEAR, 25% MORE THAN THE SECOND BUSIEST STATION. AND WHEN SOMEBODY WOULD ASK ME WHAT'S A HOME RUN IN THIS SITUATION WHEN IT COMES TO TAMPA FAIR AND PUBLIC SAFETY? IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT THE CONCEPT THAT I PROPOSED A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO OF WHAT I CALL A PUBLILIC SETETY MASTER PLAN, WHICH YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB IN RESPONDING TO AND ARTICULATING THE DEFICITS THAT WE HAVE WITH TAMPA FIRE. CHIEF DUGAN HAS DONE A MARVELOUS JOB AS WELL OBVIOUSLY WITH TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, IN THAT REGARD. BUT MY OVERALL SENTIMENT WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROACTIVE AND NOT REACTIVE. I REMEMBER A YEAR AGO WHEN COUNCILMAN GUDES, WHO IS SUCH A FIGHTER FOR HIS AREA, EAST TAMPA, COMES UP AND SAYS, LISTEN, WE HAVE GOT A PROBLEM. I THINK IT W 1IFIF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT. AND GOT ANOTHER VEHICLE THERE. GOT ANOTHER ONE FOR 13. A YEAR LATER ANOTHER ONE FOR 13. I WANT TO HAVE A VISION, OR A GRAND PLAN, IF YOU WILL, WHERE WE KNOW WHERE ALL OF OUR DEFICITS ARE. FOR ME, A HOME RUN, IF YOU WILL, AND BY THE WAY, WE ALL AGREE, NOTHING SHORT OF A HOME RUN WAS STATION FOR NORTH TAMPA, AND I KNOW WE ARE ON OUR WAY TO GETTING THAT, A STATION FOR CHANNELSIDE, RELIEF FOR NEW TAMPA 33647. I KNOW FOUR OUT OF THE SIX STATIONS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH THE LONGEST RESPONSE TIMES ARE AT 373647. WE CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR EYE ON EAST TAMPA AND I KNOW CONTINUES TO NEED RELIEF AND WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT OUR FRIENDS IN WEST TAMPA, HAVING A LOT OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT THERE, ET CETERA, AND THE QUESTION IS GOING TO COME, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IN RESPONSE TO THOSE NEEDS? SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HIGHLIGHT THESE CHALLENGES THROUGH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN. YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB IN DOING THAT. I ABSOLUTE YOU. I ABSOLUTE THE CASTER ADMINISTRATION AGAIN. ONONEHIHING W WANDD TO TALK ABOT IS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GETTING THESE FUNDS THROUGH THE AMERICAN RELIEF PLAN, I THINK IT IS $81 MILLION, AND WHEN WE ARE DONE WITH THIS, MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, BECAUSE I WANTED TO SPEAK IN THIS DISCUSSION ON AN INQUIRY ON THOSE FUNDS AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN IMPART THESE FUNDS ON PUBLIC SAFETY. I KNOW THERE'S RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT THEY CAN BE SPENT ON, ET CETERA, BUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN HELP US REDUCE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DEFICITS THAT WE HA,,ECECAU S SOME OF THESE ISSUES, WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE LACK OF EQUITY IN PUBLIC SAFETY, ESPECIALLY IN NORTH TAMPA, UNIVERSITY AREA, A PLACE WHERE POVERTY IS MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA POVERTY RATE IS, MORE THAN DOUBLE, IT'S OUTRAGEOUS. BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO ABSOLUTE YOU, BECAUSE THOSE STATS DIDN'T GET MOVED BY THEMSELVES. THEY GOT MOVED THROUGH YOUR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION AND THE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE SPOKEN TO ME ABOUT THAT YOU PRESENT BEFORE COUNCIL IS A WORKABLE PLAN. I SUPPORT IT. AND WE HAVE TO BUILD THE BRIDGE AND G GET THERE IN ALL OF OUR CITY. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AND JUST ENCOURAGE YOU, CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE KNEW THAT REGARD. THANK YOU, MA'AM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION NOW OR WAIT? COUNCILMEMBER GUDES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, YOU KNOW, IT ALL STARTED WITH A STATION ON 34th STREET, STATION 10. I THINK THE SECOND OLDEST FIRE STATION IN THE CITY. NEEDS A LOT OF WORK. NEEDS A LOT OF WORK. THE WAY WE GET SOME EXTRA HELP FOR OUR CITIZENS IN EAST TAMPA WITH THE EXTRA CAR. THAT WAS DESPERATELY NEEDED AFTER YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AT 16. BUT I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING: I RECEIVED SEVERAL E-MAILS FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THE FIRE INDUSTRY AND TALK ABOUT I GUESS THE WORD PHASE STARTED TO BE USED FOR FIRE STATIONS AND THE NUMBER OF BAYS THAT CAN COVER AN AREA WITH FOLKS THAT ARE HOUSED NO STATION. AND I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH, BECAUSE I LOOKED AT SOME OTHER CITIES AND THEY HAVE MAYBE 8 TO 10 BAYS, AND THOSE BAYS ARE COVERING DIFFERENT AREAS. LOU AT STATION NUMBER 1, AND STATION NUMBER 1 USED TO HAVE MORE MAYBE 10 TO 12 BAYS, AND COVERED AREAS, AND THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER IDEA WESTBOUND THE MASTER PLAN AND LOOK AT THAT FOR AREAS THAT HAVE A MASTER NUMBER OF TRAPS, SQUADS STATIONED THERE, AND YOU HAVE ENOUGH COVERAGE FOR THE AREA. SO IHOHOUG IT WAS INTERESTING. ALSO LOOKED AT SOME OTHER AREAS AS WELL, AND A PERSON THAT WORKS ON THE MASTER WILL LOOK AT MAYBE SMALLER ENGINES AS WELL TO HELP OUT. SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT IDEAS OUT THERE. BUT ALSO LISTENING TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WHEN I PUT ON SOME OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES I TALKED ABOUT, OUR DEVELOPERS, IMPACT FEES, PAYING FOR FIRE STATION, AND THE LACK OF, YOU KNOW -- NOT BLAMING ANYBODY, JUST THAT WE DIDN'T DO WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO, ESPECIALLY WITH DEVELOPMENT G GOI ON, POSSIBLY PUT THOSE BAYS OR POSSIBLY SMALLER ENGINES IN THOSE NEW DEVELOPMENTS GOING UP IN DIFFERENT AREAS. SO I THINK WITH THE LEADERSHIP THAT YOU ARE CARRYING ON NOW, AND THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING, BECAUSE I HEAR ALL THE FIREFIGHTERS SAYING THINGS ARE CHANGING IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS. SO I COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR EFFORTS. AND CONTINUE TO WORK. THANK YOU. >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHIEF. SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN KICKED AROUND BETWEEN MYSELF AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE. THE MORE EMPHASIS RIGHT NOW ON VEHICLES AND STAFF. THERE ARE PLACES SUCH AS THE WHAT USED TO BE AN OLD MALL ON THE CORNER OF FOWLER AND NEBRASKA. GETTING SOME SORT OF LEASE OPTION THERE, HAVING A VEHICLE, WHETHER IT BE A TRUCK AND/OR AN AMBULANCE, AND HAVING A SMALL TYPE BUILDING TO HOUSE THE STAFF,F, WHH FENCING GOING AROUD TO SECURE, UNTIL WE CAN RAISE THE FUNDS FOR THE ACTUAL BRICK AND MORTAR. THAT WAY WE ALREADY HAVE THE VEHICLES, WE HAVE THE STAFFING, THE MANPOWER, OR FEMALE POWER, AND THEN WE CAN PLAN OUT IN THE FUTURE ON HOW TO BUILD THE ACTUAL BRICK AND MORTAR. SO THAT IS ALL TO ANOTHER IDEA. MS. TRIPP, I THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR AND HOPEFULLY IT'S GOING TO BE THE CHIEF TRIPP, NO MORE INTERIM. THANK YOU, CHIEF. >>CHIEF TRIPP: THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, TO SAYING CHIEF. IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE YOUR MOTION, SIR? >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. I THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AGAIN, I WANTED TO AGAIN ABSOLUTE YOU. I HAVE BEEN GOING TO FIRE STATION 13 FOR A WHILE, SINCE I WAS ELECTED, AND THERE'S ALWAYS A LACK OF HOPE THERE. BUT THERE'S HOPE NOW. WHEN YOU TALK TO THE MEN AND WOMEN THERE, THERE'S HOPE. SOMEBODY IS LISTENING TO THEM. NO J JUS ME. IT'S ALL OF US. IT'S YOU. THE MAYOR. EVERYBODY LISTENING TO THEM. AND THEY FEEL LIKE THINGS ARE CHANGING. WE CAN'T LET THEM DOWN. IF WE DON'T GET A NEW STATION THIS YEAR I AM GOING TO GET A HUNGER STRIKE. I CAN STAND TO LOSE WE THINK, TRUST ME, BUT I AM GOING DO IT. BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. YOU KNOW I AM A BIG FAN OF YOURS, AND YALE SAY THAT. AND ALSO THANK CHIEF DUGAN AS WELL FOR HIS SUPPORT OF THIS AND HIS WORKING WITH US, AND PUTTING FORTH THE TPD PLAN BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S SO PIVOTAL. BULL I WANT TO MOTION -- AND WE MAY -- I MOTION FOR THIS ON APRIL 15th. WE NIGH NEED TO MUSH IT BACK BUT I AM DOING IT JUST TO GET A DATE. FOR STAFF TO REPORT ON WHETHER OR NOT NEW ENGLANDING FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT CAN BE UTILIZED TO FUND IN PART PUBLIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AS PRESENTLY SPECIFIED. THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT OF 2021 IS A $1.9 TRILLION ECONOMIC STIMULUS PASSED BY THE 117th CONGRESS AND SIGNED INTO LAW BYY PRESIDENT JOE BADEN ON MARCH 11th OF 2021. THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROVISIONS THAT ARE GEARED TOWARDS PUBLIC HEALTH. AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD FIT FOR CONSIDERATION. WE ARE LOOKING AT FUNDING MECHANISMS. FUNDING MECHANISMS FOR EMERGENT -- THIS IS STUFF WE ARE RUNNING BEHIND ON. AGAIN MY MESSAGE AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN NEVER LET SOMETHING LIKE THIS EVER HAPPEN AGAIN, BECAUSE WE CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN AGAIN. SO FOR CONSIDERATION I BELIEVE THE CITY OF TAMPA IS GETTING ABOUT 80, $81 MILLION,O O THE ADMINISTRATION NEEDS MORE TIME FOR THAT I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUSH IT BACK A WEAK, A MONTH, WHATEVER IT IS, BECAUSE I KNOW THATSTER STILL WAITING TO LEARN WHAT IF ANY RESTRICTIONS THERE ARE PROSPECTIVELY. SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION AGAIN TENTATIVELY AND WE CAN MOVE IT IF NEED BE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS FOR THE -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS FOR APRIL 15th? >>LUIS VIERA: YES, IF I MAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND IF IT NEED TO BE CONTINUED FROM THEN WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. APRIL 15th UNDER STAFF REPORTS. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. >>GUGUID M MANCACALCO: COUNCILMEMBER VIERA WITH THE MOTION. COUNCILMEMBER CITRO WITH THE SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHIEF TRIPP, WE APPRECIATE YOU. >>CHIEF TRIPP: THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE BEST PART OF THE AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER 46. >>CATE WELLS: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO IS THIS, CAROLE POST? >>CAROLE POST: CAROLE POST, YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S LIKE A SAY ANSWER. WE CAN'T SEE YOU BUT WE HEAR YOU. GO AHEAD. >> WE ARE NOT USING A PowerPoint PRESENTATION TODAY. YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A ROOM FULL OF FOLKS. I'M CAROLE POST, THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. AND WE ARE REPORTING HERE ON ITEM 46. I WANTED TO PROVIDE A FEW MOMENTS OF BACKGROUND TO CATCH UP FROM THE JRNRNEY THAT WE HAVE BEEN ON COLLECTIVELY WITH THIS MATTER, AND THEN DISCUSS THE PROPOSALS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AT THE MOMENT. AS YOU KNOW AND CAN RECALL, THE ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU ACTUALLY REPRESENTS THE CULMINATION OF A MOTION THAT WAS ORIGINATED BY CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 4th OF 2020, AND WAS SUBSEQUENTLY MODIFIED ON FEBRUARY 3rd AND THEN AGAIN ON FEBRUARY 11th. CITY STAFF HAS PREPARED A RESOLUTION IN RESPONSE TOO THOSE REVOLVING MOTIONS AND SUBMITTED IT WITH REPORTING DOCK -- SUPPORTING DOCUMENT AGES AND PRESENTATION FOR CONSIDERATION ON MARCH 18th. AS YOU KNOW AT THE MARCH 18th MEETING THE MATTER WAS CONTINUED BY COUNCIL TO TODAY'S MEETING. DURING THAT CONTINUANCE PERIOD, MAYOR CASTOR ACTUALLY CONVENED A LISTENING SESSION. YOU HEARD SOME OF THE COMMENTS THIS MORNING THAT REFERRED TO IT. WE CONVENED THAT SESSION WITH COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, ALSO INVITED DEVELOPERS AN BUILDERS, REPRESENTATIVE ATTORNEYS. WE ALSO HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION PRESENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WERE ALSO INVITED, AND WE HAD CITY STAFF FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THE DEPARTMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT. WE ALSO HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY AND OUR CITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM WAS THERE RELATIVE FOR THE EVACUATION CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED. WE WERE VERY INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO CAST A VERY LARGE TENT, IF YOU WILL, TO PROVIDE EVERYONE A VOICE, ATAT T S SAM TIME, AT THE SAME TABLE, AND TO ENABLE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER UNDERSTANDING AND CONVERSATION AMONGST THE PARTIES. AS YOU HEARD, THAT MEETING WAS HELD ON FRIDAY, MARCH 26th. IT WAS A VERY ROBUST AND I THINK PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION. LITERALLY EVERYONE IN THE ROOM HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS THEIR PERSPECTIVE. CERTAINLY THE RESIDENTS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS BUT ALSO THE DEVELOPERS, THE LAND USE ATTORNEYS THAT WERE PRESENT, CITY STAFF, MAYOR CASTOR WAS THERE, CHIEF OF STAFF BENNETT WAS THERE, CITY ATTORNEY WAS THERE AND EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO S SPE.. ALTHOUGH IT'S HARD TO GET THAT MANY DIFFERENT VOICES TO AGREE TO ANY ONE THING, WE WERE SURPRISED TO HEAR THERE WAS AGREEMENT AROUND A FUNDAMENTAL NOTION WHICH WAS THAT NO ONE REALLY WANTED A MORATORIUM PER SE. THE COMMUNITY LEADERS PRESENT SPECIFICALLY WERE STATING THAT THEY DID NOT WANT TO STOP GROWTH PER SE, BUT THEY WANTED SMART GROWTH. IN FACT THEY SAID THEY DON'T EVEN WANT NECESSARILY TO STOP CHANGE. THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THAT IS THE NATURE OF AOMOMMUTYTY SUCH AS OURS, BUT THEY WANT SMART CHANGE. I THINK EVERYONE IN THE ROOM, EVERYONE IN THE ROOM AGREED WITH THAT. MOST IMPORTANTLY WAS THEY WANTED ACTION. I THINK THE DISCUSSION AROUND HOW THERE HAVE BEEN MANY STUDIES DONE OVER TIME, THERE ARE MORE STUDIES PLANNED, BUT THE GROUP REALLY EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO START TO GET THINGS DONE, AND WE CERTAINLY ECHO THAT. AS WE LISTENED, I THINK IT BECAME CLEAR THAT THE MORATORIUM WAS A TEMPORARY STOP GAP, OR COULD HAVE BEEN A TEMPORARY STOP P,P,NDND IT WASN'T REALLY CLEAR WHAT ACTION WE WOULD GET AT THE END OF THAT. AND THIS WAS ECHOED BY THE DEVELOPERS AND THE LAND USE ATTORNEYS THAT WERE PRESENT THERE. AND GIVEN ALL THAT, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE DISCUSSION, WE PRESENTED AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH THAT WOULD RESULT IN A MORE PERMANENT ACTION. SO IT TAKES US IN A DIRECTION THAT WE THOUGHT EVERYONE AROUND THE TABLE BELIEVED WAS REASONABLE. THE ALTERNATE APPROACH WOULD BE SIMPLY TO GO AHEAD AND INITIATE A CHANGE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WOULD DIRECTLY IMPACT DENSITY MAXIMUMS IN THREE LAND USE CATEGORIES ACROSS THE CITY FOR SINGLE USE DEVELOPMENTS ONLY. AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THE DETAIL OF THAT. IN FACT, NO MOMENT, I WILL ACTUALLY ASK ABBYE FEELEY TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND GIVE SOME EXAMPLES SO WE CAN REALLY JUST UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE HOW THE FAR HAS BEEN USED IN SINGLE USE DEVELOPMENTS ACROSS THE CITY, NOT JUST SOUTH OF GANDY. BUT FIRST I JUST WANTT TO RECALL AGAIN SORT OF THE CONTEXT OF HOW WE HAVE GOTTEN HERE. IF YOU RECALL, LEADING TO US THAT MARCH 18th RESIDUES LUTION, IT HAD TWO ESSENTIAL COMPONENTS. ONE WAS TWO A A DRESS THE USE OF THE F.A.R. AND THE OTHER WAS ADDRESSING THE MIXED USE REQUIREMENT. WE BELIEVE BOTH OF THESE ASPECTS OF CITY PLANNING ONE AND ASSESSMENT, AS OUR CITY HAS EVOLVED AND GROWN, AND WE PRESENTED IN FACT THESE AND A NUMBER OF OTHER PROPOSALS BACK IN OCTOBER AT THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP, AND AGAIN IN DEMEMBETHTHERE WAS A WORK PLAN PRESENTED FOR CONSIDERATION. BUT INITIATING A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TO ADDRESS F.A.R. COULD BE A FIRST STEP IN THAT PROCESS, AND IF YOU RECALL, THE USE OF THE F.A.R. IN SINGLE-USE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH HAS RESULTED IN SOME PROJECTS, NOT ALL BUT SOME PROJECTS BUILDING MORE THAN THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS, OTHERWISE CONTEMPLATED IN THE COMP PLAN. AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IN DEFENSE. DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY FOR A MOMENT, THOSE T THA USE THAT OPTION WERE DOING WHAT THE COMP PLAN PROVIDED FOR. AT THIS TIME, THOUGH, AND AS ILLUSTRATED IN OUR OCTOBER WORKSHOP, THE CITY HAS GROWN, IT'S HE INVOLVED TREMENDOUSLY, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE NEED FOR THAT F.A.R. OPTION IN CERTAIN AREAS AND IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES MAY IN A LONGER EXIST. THE SECOND PART OF THAT MARCH 18th RESOLUTION IS THE FACT THAT TALLAHASSEE CURRENTLY NO MINIMUM STANDARD FOR NONRESIDENTIAL USE IN A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. ALL THAT IUEUE HASN'T BEEN AS PROBLEMATIC AS WE THINK F.A.R. HAS BECOME, IT'S STILL AN AREA THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS IN A HOLISTIC AND MORE STRATEGIC WAY. SO IN THOSE CASES RATHER THAN JUST PUSHING A PAUSE BUTTON FOR NINE MONTHS AND CONTINUING TO STUDY AND TO EVALUATE, WE PROPOSE TAKING ACTION AND DOING IT IN A STEP-BY-STEP MANNER. THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE TO INITIATE THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE F.A.R. OPTION, AGAIN FOR SINGLE-USE DEVELOPMENT, IN THREE SETS OF LAND USE CATEGORIES. AT ALL TIMES F.A.R. WOULD REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR MIXED USE PROJECTS. I WANT TO STRONGLY EMPHASIS THAT. F.A.R. WOULD REMAIN AVAILABLE IN ITS CURRENT STANCE FOR MIXED USE PROJECTS. AND IT WOULD REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR ALL LAND USE DESIGNATIONS OTHER THAN THE THREE IDENTIFIED IN THE PROPOSAL. IN ADDITION, DURING THE AMENDMENT PROCESS, WE WOULD BE FINE TUNING AND LIKELY DISCUSSING THE REFINEMENTS, MANY OF WHICH WERE SUGGESTED THIS MORNING BY VARIOUS SPEAKERS TO ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE DENSITY WHERE WE KNOW WE DO WANT IT, WHERE WE LIKELY NEED IT, WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, OR WHERE IT SUPPORTS OTHER SEEKING SUCH AS HOUSING WE ARE- AFFORDABILITY. SO WE DO SEE A VALUE IN THE F.A.R. ELEMENT. WE JUST FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS TO GET MANAGED AT THIS POINT MOVING FORWARD. AND IT'S THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS THAT'S THE BEST METHOD TO DO THAT. IT ENABLED ENABLES WIDE REACHING INPUTS, FEEDBACK AND ADJUSTMENT ALONG THE WAY BEFORE IT ULTIMATELY COMES BACK TO YOU FOR FINAL PRESENTATION. SO I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE PROPOSAL TODAY WOULD HAVE NO EFFECT ON THE USE OF F.A.R. IN OTHER LAND USE CATEGORIES WHERE IT'S APPLICABLE, OR THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS THAT COULD COME FORWARD, MOVING FORWARD. MORE OVER, WE ARE NOT SEEKING ANY ACTION BY THE COUNCIL TODAY REGARDING THAT MIXED USE MINIMUM USE BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T KNOW APPROACH TO THAT COULD BE, AND WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE A HASTETY DECISIONS THAT COULD HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. CURRENTLY THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS DISCRETION REGARDING THE ALLOCATION OF MIXES IN A MIXED USE PROJECT. IT WOULD BE OUR PLAN TO WORK TOWARDS PROPOSING A STANDARD THAT CAN OFFER GREATER PREDICTABILITY TO ALL STAKEHOLDERS. BUT AGAIN THAT WOULD BE A MORE THOROUGH -- WITH A HOST OF THE INPUTS AND FEEDBACK SO THAT QUO COME UP WITH THE RIGHT PLAN THAT MEETS AS MANY NEEDS A A POSSIBL. SO TODAY'S APPROACH FOCUSES JUST ON THE FIRST STEP THAT LIES AHEAD, AN THAT WOULD BE TO COMMENCE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT FOR F.A.R., AND PROVIDE THAT OPEN AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS TO MOVE FORWARD. THAT WILL ALSO A LINE WITH A HOST OF OTHER CITY PLANNING EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN UNDERWAY. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE BEFORE. WE KNOW WE WANT TO EXPLORE AMENDING THE DENSITY BONUS PROVISION. THAT DOES HAS NOT NECESSARILY SERVED O PPOPOSEASAS WELL AS EXPECTED. AND AN OVERALL COMP PLAN UPDATE IN CONCERT WITH OUR MOBILITY TEAM MOVES PROJECT WHICH HAS ALREADY STARTED.% WE HAVE A SEA LEVEL RISE GRANT FUNDED STUDY THAT'S ABOUT TO INITIATE AND A HOST OF OTHER INITIATIVES FRANKLY MANY OF WHICH HAVE BEEN SOMEWHAT STALLED AS WE HAVE DEALT WITH THIS MATTER FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS. SO WE ARE EAGER TO GET BACK TO THAT FULL ROBUST PROGRAM. SO WITH THAT BACKGROUND, I WANT TO TURN TO ABBEY FOR A MOMENT AND LET HER PROVIDE SOME DETAIL ABOUT THE SPECIFIFIC L LANAGAGEF WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING TODAY, SORT OF WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT IS NOT, AND THEREAFTER I WOULD ASK EITHER CATE OR TINA, WHOEVER WANTS TO WALK US THROUGH THE SUGGESTED PROCESS, TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY. AND WITH THAT, I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THERE IS A MODIFIED RESOLUTION LITERALLY HOT OFF THE PRESS THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THE REVISED RESOLUTION SIMPLY SEPARATES THE TWO COMPONENTS THAT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED ON MARCH 18th AND EXTENDS THE -- I'M SORRY, THE RESOLUTION THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED EARLIER THIS WEEK AS A WALK-ON, AND IT DOES SO AT THE FOLLOWING: WHAT WE ARE NOW PROPOSING LITERALLY THAT WAS PRESENTED FOLLOWING OUR LUNCH BREAK WAS THAT WE PUSH FORWARD TODAY WITH THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT. NOTHING HAS CHANGED ABOUT OUR COMMITMENT OUT OF THE FRIDAY LISTENING SESSION TO PUSH FORWARD WITH A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TO MODIFY USE OF THE F.A.R. IN THOSE THREE DESIGNATED SINGLE-USE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. THE CHANGE THIS AFTERNOON WOULD ENTAIL US PUSHING OUT THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE ASPECT OF THE RESOLUTION FOR SIXTY DAYS, AND THAT WOULD IMPACTED BY IT WOULD HAVE SUFFICIENT NOTICE. AND THE RATIONALE THERE IS THAT THE RESOLUTION THAT CAME OUT OF OUR -- THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN PUBLISHED WAS FOCUSED ON THE SOUTH OF GANDY GEOGRAPHIC AREA. THE NEW RESOLUTION THAT CAME OUT OF THE LISTENING SESSION IMPACTS A CITY-WIDE FOOTPRINT. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, IT HAS NOT HAD SUFFICIENT NOTICE CITY-WIDE. AND THAT SIXTY-DAY PERIOD REDUCES SOME OF THE VULNERABILITY AND POTENTIAL CHALLENGES THAT COULD BE FACED AS WELL AS SIMPLY DOES THE RIGHT THING TO ENSURE THAT ANY STAKEHOLDER HAS NOTICE OF WHAT WE ARE PROCEEDING REQUEST TODAY. SO I'LL PAUSE ON THAT THOUGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ABBYE FEELEY TO JUST ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THE WORKINGS OF THE F.A.R., HOW IT'S BEEN USED, TO EMPHASIZE THE POINT THERE, AND THEN WE'LL TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE PROCEDURAL STUFF. >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU, CAROL. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. ABBYE FEELEY, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH. AS WE HAVE CONTINUED OUR DIALOGUE AND OUR RESEARCH ON THIS MATTER, AND LOOKING AT THE F.A.R. THAT HAS BEEN UTILIZED IN THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, THE UMU 60 AND THE CC-35, I ACTUALLY SPENT LAST EVENING PULLING ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY BOTH MIX USES, SINGLE USE LAND DEVELOPMENTS THAT CAME BEFORE YOU FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, TO REALLY TAKE A DIVE, INITIAL DIVES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WERE THESE PROJECTS? WHAT WAS RESULTING? AND IN SOME CASES, THE SINGLE USE F.A.R.S, YOU WERE RESULTING IN DOUBLE THE DENSITY OF WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED, IN SOME CASES TRIPLE THE DENSITY OF WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED, AND EVEN BEYOND THAT. THERE WAS ONE PD THAT IN A CMU-35 THAT USED F.A.R. AND RESULTED IN 137 DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE. WHICH IS BEYOND EVEN A REGIONAL MIXED USE ALLOWANCE. SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, AND IT'S NOT ON THE THAT THESE PROJECTS WERE OCCURRING SOUTH OF GANDY. THESE PROJEJECT WEE OCCURRING THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WHICH IS NOT THE INTENTION OF UTILIZING THE F.A.R. IN THE WAY THAT IT HAS BEEN USED. SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO LIMIT THE UTILIZATION OF F.A.R. FOR SINGLE-USE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL. SO WE KNOW THAT AS APARTMENT COMPLEXES, AND THAT IS WHAT THIS WOULD BE DOING. SO YOU WOULD STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE F.A.R. IN ANY DISTRICT OR ANY OF OUR MIXED USE DISTRICTS TO ACHIEVE A MIXED USE PROJECT, AND THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY A VERTICALLY INTEGRATED MIXED USE BUILDING. AS A MIXED USE PROJECT. SO IT COULD BE A MULTIPLE BUILDING THAT CREATES ONE PROJECT, AND THAT WOULD MEET THAT INTENT OF PROVIDING MIXED USE IN THESE CATEGORIES. I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT, AND ALSO R REIRARATE THAT THAT WOULD IT -- F.A.R. WOULD ALSO REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR NONRESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, WHICH IT WAS INTENDED FOR. THE RMU 100 WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS TODAY AS THE RMU 100 REALLY OCCURS AS A REGIONAL HEIGHT OF LAND USE, AN ATTRACTER TYPE OF LAND USE, IN MORE DENSE AREAS, RUM 100 IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT. IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, THE CENTRAL BUSINESS SO THIS WOULD NOT IMPACT THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, WHERE IMMEDIATE PERIPHERY OR THE CPD PERIPHERY IN EFFECT. SO ALL OF THOSE TOOLS WOULD REMAIN IN EFFECT TO ASSIST DIRECTING GROWTH WHERE THOSE AREAS THAT WE ANTICIPATE GROWTH THIS WOULD JUST ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT SOME UNINTENTIONAL CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT WE ARE SEEING HAPPENING AS WE DO THAT IN A MEANINGFUL AND INTENTIONAL MANNER THROUGHOUT THE CITY. YOU. >> WE WILL WALK THROUGH THIS PROCEDURAL STEPS. >> INDEPENDENT KIND OF CLOSE WESTBOUND WHAT MRS. POST MENTIONED EARLIER WHICH IS THE PROPOSAL THAT'S HOT OFF THE PRESS. I WILL JUST GO OVER IT QUICKLY. AGAIN WE ARE MAKING THIS THIRD, IF YOU WILL, ALTERNATIVE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT YOU HEARD EARLIER DURING PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THE INSUSUFFIEIENC O OF THE NOTICE D THE RESPECT THAT THIS IS NOW A PROPOSAL THAT'S CITY-WIDE. EARLIER IT WAS JUST A SOUTH OF GANDY APPLICTION. SO A LOT OF CONCERNS WERE EXPRESSED SAYING THEY HAVE INSUFFICIENT NOTICE GIVEN THAT THIS IS NOW A CITY-WIDE PROPOSAL. AND I KNOW BOTH THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE COUNCIL WANT TO BE EQUITABLE, THEY WANT TO BALANCE THE INTERESTS OF ALL THE PARTIES. I KNOW OFTEN YOU WANT US TO MEET WITH BOTH SIDES, TO COME BACK AND HAVE A SOLUTION THAT EVERYONE AGREES TO. WE REALLY TRADE OURUR BTT T TO E DON THAT. THAT'S JUST NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE, BUT HOPEFULLY THIS LAST PROPOSAL WILL GET YOU CLOSE TO THAT AS YOU CAN GET. AND AS CAROL MENTIONED, IT ESSENTIALLY DIVIDES THE CURRENT PROPOSAL PROCESS INTO TWO STEPS. THE FIRST STEP RELATES TO THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. WE REVISED THAT SLIGHTLY. ANDREA ZELMAN HAS A COPY OF IT. WHAT WE ASK THAT YOU DO IS MOVE FORWARD DAP WITH THAT REVISED RESOLUTION, STATING COUNCIL'S INTENT TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, A DIRECT THE STAFF TO FILE THAT COMP PLAN AMENDMENT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND THEN THE OTHER CHANGE MADE TO THE RESOLUTION WAS THE LEADING SECTION 2 OF THAT RESOLUTION, WHICH IS THE SOURCE OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT YOU HEARD THIS MORNING FROM THE LAND USE F.A.R., AND THAT SECTION PROHIBITS THE REZONING APPLICATIONS THAT UTILIZE THE F.A.R. CALCULATION FOR SINGLE USE, THE SINGLE-USE MULTIFAMILY PROJETS IN THE THREE COMP PLAN CATEGORIES. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THINKS CHANGEGES M MADTOTO T RESOLUTION. AND THE SECOND STEP IN THE PROCESS WOULD BE RELATED TO THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE, AND WHAT WE WOULD ASK YOU ALSO TO DO IS TO DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO COME BACK ON APRIL 15th WITH THE DOCUMENTATION NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE STARTING JUNE 1 OF 2021, AND THAT WOULD GIVE ANYONE WHO IS CURRENTLY MID PROCESS IN PREPARING THE REZONING APPLICATION THAT PERHAPS HAS HIRED ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS AND ATTORNEYS TO PREPARE THAT APS TAKE MONTHS TO PREPARE AN APPLICATION. YOU DON'T PUT IT TOGETHER OVERNIGHT. BELIEVE ME, I TRIED AND IT DOESN'T WORK. IT TAKES A LOT OF EFFORT AND COORDINATION OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS TO ASSEMBLE A REZONEITION APPLICATION. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS IT WAS REZONING APPLICTIONS BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE 1 BUT IT WOULD ALLOW THOSE THAT HAVE INVESTED MONEY ALREADY IN PREPARING THEIR APPLICATION TO COMPLETE IT. DO,, AND THEN DURING THEE THAT PENDENCY OF THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS, WHICH AS YOU ALL KNOW TAKES ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO SIX MONTHS OR EVEN LONGER, NO ONE ELSE WOULD BE ABLE TO SUBMIT APPLICATION UTILIZING THE F.A.R. FOR THE SINGLE USE MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS. SO WE THINK THAT'S ABOUT AS CLOSE AS A FAIR BALANCE THAT WE COULD GET BETWEEN THE TWO SIDES. IT GETS THE SOUTH OF GANDY RESIDENTS AND ANYONE ELSE THE ASSURANCE WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PLAN AMENDMENT TO ELIMINATE USE OF THE F.A.R. CALCULATION, AND THE SINGLE USE PROJECTS PROJECTS. AND IT ALSO GIVES THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AMPLE TIMG ORDINANCE DOCTRINE TO COME INTO EFFECT. IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY. AND TO THAT END, TOO, I WANT TO MENTION THAT I KNOW A LOT OF THE DEVELOPERS MENTIONED, THEIR ATTORNEYS MENTIONED ABOUT PEOPLE RELYING UPON THE EXISTING ZONING IN THE COMP PLAN. ALTHOUGH THAT MAY IF CASE, BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF ENTITLEMENT AND RELATES TO YOUR PROPERTY, BUT YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO HAVE THE LAW STAY AS IT IS WHEN YOU FIRST PURCHASED IT, PURCHASED YOUR PROPERTY. SO YOU CAN ALWAYS BE ASSURED THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME ZONING OR THE SAME COMP PLAN CATEGORY OR THE SAME REQUIREMENTS OR REGULATIONS IN THE ZONING CODE OR IN THE COMP PLAN. SO THIS IS AN AREA THAT COUNCIL IS FREE TO REGULATE, FREE TO CHANGE, AND WE DON'T BELIEVE ESTOPPEL WOULD BE A VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING TO DO. SO I WILL END WITH THAT. >>CAROLE POST: WE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS NOW FROM COUNCIL. THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: SEVERAL OF US WERE WORKING FOR MORE THAN A YEAR WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS WORKING ON THIS AND WE HAVE SEEN RENEWED ACTIVISM IN THE COMMUNITY. NOW THAT NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS FEEL LIKE WE ARE LISTENING AND CITY COUNCIL IS LISTENING AND THE MAYOR IS LISTENING I.WANTED TO THANK ALL, STAFF NOT ONLY TO THIS MEETING LAST FRIDAY BUT THEY HAVE BEEN TO SEVERAL MEETINT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THOSE MEETINGS, ESPECIALLY THE LAST ONE WHICH OF COURSE THE MAYOR WENT TO WHICH MAKES EVERYBODY EVEN MORE HAPPY. SO THANKS TO HER FOR DOING THAT AND THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO IT. THIS PROCESS IS DIFFICULT, AS YOU SAID, BECAUSE ANYTIME YOU TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY DOESN'T LIKE, BOTH SIDES ARE A LITTLE UNHAPPY, OR SOMEONE UNHAPPY, THEN YOU FOUND SOMETHING KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE. WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO FOR THE LAST FEW WEEKS, I SPENT PROBABLY 5 OFF MY OVERALL TIME IN THE LAST MONTH OR TWO JUST ON THIS, AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE TORE A MORATORIUM, AND THE LANGUAGE AS I UNDERSTAND IT, TALKED TO MRS. GRIMES THIS MORNING ABOUT IT, BUT THAT LANGUAGE THANK THEY EDITED OUT WAS SOMEHOW A HOLD COVER OR COPY FROM THAT MORATORIUM LANGUAGE AND MS. GRIMES, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THIS PROCESS THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING IS THE NORMAL PROCESS FOR A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, CORRECT? IT'S NOT THE PROCESS THAT WAS IN THE EARLIER VERSION WAS NOT. IT WAS -- IT WHAT HAD SOME OF THE MORATORIUM LANGUAGE IN I ITO NOW WE CLEANED IT OUT TO BE MORE OF A LONG-TERM AMENDMENT, CORRECT? >>GINA GRIMES: WE SPOKE THIS MORNING, WHICH SEEMS RIGHT NOW LIKE A LONG STADIUM AGO. >>BILL CARLSON: IT IS. >>GINA GRIMES: IT'S CHANGED EVEN MORE. IT'S KIND OF A HYBRID, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IN THAT RIGHT NOW WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND THERE IS RIGHT NOW, BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE 1st, THERE IS NO PENDING ORDINANCE IN THE DOCTRINE IN EFFECT. BUT STARTING JUNE 1, WE WOULD IMPLEMENT THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE AND WOULD NO LONGER ACCEPT APPLICATION THAT USE THE F.A.R. CALCULATION FOR SINGLE USE MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS. >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, AND I THINK THE POINT IS THAT IT'S NOT WHETHER PEOPLE DIDN'T D KNOW OR DIDN'T KNOW. THERE'S A LEGAL PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO GONE THROUGH TO PUSH THIS FORWARD IN AND WE NEED TO NOT SKIP STEPS OR ADD STEPS IN A LEGAL PROCESS. OTHERWISE WE'LL END UP WITH LOTS OF LAWSUITS. I APPRECIATE YOU CHANGING IT AT THE LAST MINUTE. I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO PUSH THIS FORWARD UNLESS MR. WANTS TO DO IT.OMEBODY ELSE- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT A MINUTE, WE HAVE COUNCILMAN GUDES HAD HIS HAND UP. WE HAVE TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENT, BECAUSE OF LAST MINUTE CHANGES AND -- WAIT, WAIT, MR. GRANDOFF. COUNCILMAN GUDES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, COMMUNICATION DOES WORK. THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ISSUE, I MADE REFERENCE TO BRINGING EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO MAKE IT WORK. I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION HEARD THAT. I THINK S SEVALAL TIMES IN THE LAST I MET WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND MET WITH FOLKS SOUTH OF GANDY, AND SAID WE HAVE NOT IN A GRINT MEETING TOGETHER TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES AND I THINK ADMINISTRATION FINALLY HEARD THAT CALL, AND MADE THAT HAPPEN. YOU CAN'T MAKE THINGS HAPPEN IF EVERYBODY IS NOT AT THE TABLE. WE CAN HAVE EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE BUT [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] EVERYBODY CAN HAVE A MEAL AT THE TABLE WHEN YOU GET TOGETHER. AND I A A GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING. SOME CHANGES WERE MADE TODAY. I THINK WE HEARD FROM EVERYONE. AND I AM HOPING THAT WE CAN GO FORWARD FROM HERE, SO WE DON'T GET TO THESE POINTS. IF YOU MEET WITH ALL PARTIES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING STALE MATES ALL THE TIME ON THOSE IRONS. SO I AM HOPING THAT IN THE FEAR FOUGHT -- [~AUDIO DISTORTION~] >> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IF YOU COULD MUTE YOUR MICROPHONE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WE ARE STARTING TO MOVE FORWARD, NOT BACKWARDS. BECAUSE WE AGAIN, PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS HAVE AN OPINION. BUT WHEN THEY COME TOGETHER, PEOPLE ALWAYS SEEM TO WORK OUT THEIR DIFFERENCES. IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT YOU CAN GET GROUP OF PEOPLE NO ROOM AND SAY, HEY, LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN. I THINK THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN CLOSE. YOU MAY NEVER GET 100% BUT I THINK WE HAVE GOTTEN CLOSE. I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR MAKING THAT EFFORT, MAKING AN ATTEMPT TO GET TOGETHER WITH EVERYBODY INVOLVED AND COMING UP WITH A PLAN TO SOLVE SOME ISSUES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIR. MS. FEELEY, MS. POST, MS. GRIMES, THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE AT THE MEETING LAST FRIDAY, AND I HEARD NOTHING BUT EAEAT THINGS ABOUT THAT. I ALSO SEE BEHIND YOU ALL MR. GOERS IS THERE. AND HE HAS RECEIVED A GRANT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE DOING A STUDY. I HOPE THAT THIS IS GOING TO AT LEAST BE OPEN ENDED ENOUGH SO THAT IN TIME, SIX, EIGHT, TEN MONTHS FROM NOW, WHATEVER FINDINGS THAT MR. GOERS HAS FOUND AND/OR THE PROPOSALS THAT HE WANTS TO MAKE, THIS WILL STILL BE AVAILABLE TO US FROM% THAT STUDY THAT HE HAS HAD FUNDING FROM. SO I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE THINGS THAT HE'S GOING TO BRING TO US. I'M HOPING THAT THIS CAN STILL BE TWEAK ALONG THE WAY. AND I THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND FOR THE STAFF PUTTING THIS ALL TOGETHER. IT'S BEEN VERY WELL DONE. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF FORMALITIES COME TO US IN THE LAST, WHAT ARE WE, 24, WHATEVER, 36 HOURS, THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DEALT WITH SUBSTANTIVELY DID NOT PROCEDURAL COME TO US WITH A LOT OF RISK. WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR, WHAT I WANT, WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO ME, I THINK, IN THIS IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE REALLY -- THE IMMEDIATM JUST GOING OFF OF WHAT I HEAR FROM SOURCES, ET CETERA, INCLUDING THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND OTHERS, AND MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT THE IMMEDIATE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT ON AN ORDINANCE THAT WE GET A DAY OR TWO BEFORE, I GUESS ONE DAY FOFOREANAND THAT REALLY TROUBLED ME, SO I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT THAT'S APPARENTLY, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, BEING SET ASIDE. NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PROCESS BEGINNING TODAY, OR REASONABLY SOON, FOR THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT JOURNEY, I GUESS IF YOU WILL, WHERE WE ARE NOT MARRYING IT, BUT WE ARE DATING IT, AND WE ARE GOING TO GONE OUT TO NICE RESTAURANTS, WE ARE GOING TO TALK, AND WE ARE GOING SEE IF WE WANT TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE IT TO THE RIVERWALK. >>LUIS VIERA: : TRERE Y GO. TAKE IT TO THE HAPPEN. SO IT'S BEEN A LONG MEETING. BUT, IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IS FOR THE BEGINNING OF A PROCESS WHERE THERE'S NO IMMEDIATE PUNITIVE OR OTHERWISE TYPE OF EFFECT AND THAT'S WHAT BOTHERED ME ABOUT WHAT I WAS HEARING, THIS YESTERDAY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BOTHERED ME A LOT. IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THAT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF, AND IN A QUALIFIED TERM APPEARS. IT'S JUST MY RAMBLING, DISJOINTED THOUGHT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AND LEGAL FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS, MR. SHELBY, ET CETERA. MR. VIERA, IN REGARD TO YOUR COMMENTS, I AGREE WITH SOME OF THEM. I WOULD SAY IN REGARD TO DATING, I THINK WE HAVE BEEN DATING THIS ISSUE SINCE LAST FALL, AND IF IT WHATS A WOMAN ON THE OTHER SIDE SHE MIGHT BE GETTING A LITTLE IMPATIENT. SO ANYWAY, SO I THINK WE BETTER MOVE FORWARD. WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. NOT BECAUSE WE ARE UNDER ANY CRAZY PRESSURE. NOT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY A LAST MINUTE THING. AND I JUST WANT TOPPED CLARIFY THAT FOR THE RECORD. THIS ISN'T A LAST-MINUTE THING. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS. THE CONCEPTS HAVE REALLY BEEN WRESTLED WITH. BUT IT'S BASICALLY THAT SAME F.A.R. CONCEPT, AND THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN PUT ON NOTICE. I AM NOT SAYING EVERYBODY AGREES WITH IT, THAT EVERYBODY DISAGREES WITH IT, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN ON NOTICE FOR A LGG TIME. I THINK THAT'S A MATTER OF RECORD. I THINK AS MR. GUDES SAID, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD COMPROMISE. I THINK THAT -- AND I THINK MR. CARLSON IT, SARASOTA. UP KNOW IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE WHEN YOU ACCOMPLISH YOUR TASK AS A MEDIATOR, IF NOBODY WALKS AWAY HAPPY, AND BUT EVERYBODY CAN LIVE WITH IT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY. BILL, I AM GOING TO DEFER TO YOU TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION AND THE ATTACHED ORDINANCE, BECAUSE YOU MADE THAT REQUEST. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIAL IN THAT REGARD. IT'S RATHER SELF-EXPLANATORY AND I BELIEVE THE CLERK HAS A COPY. SO IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT. BUT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO HAVE A SUCCESSOR MOTION THAT I NEED TO MAKE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT. BEFORE WE MAKE ANY MOTIONS, WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF COULD YOU COME BACK TO ME AFTER THAT FIRST MOTION. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL. I WILL. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE MR. GNDNDOF THAT WANTS TO SPEAK. WE ALSO HAVE A REQUEST FROM STEPHANIE POYNOR WHO IS VIRTUAL. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. AND THEN WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. BECAUSE WE DIDN'T NOTICE THIS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. STAFF REPORTS.BLIC COMMENT ON- MR. GRANDOFF, GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >>JOHN GRANDOFF: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I APPRECIATE THE COURTESY AND THE EXTRA TIME TO SPEAK WITH YOUR STAFF, AND I APPRECIATE THE CONCESSION THAT HAS BEEN ABLY DESCRIBED BY MS. GRIMES, AND MS. POST'S EXPLANATION, MS. FEELEY'S EXPLANATION. I WILL CONCLUDE AND TELL YOU THAT MS. GRIMES HAS DELIVERED TO YOU A SOLID AND SOUND OPINION, THAT I HAVE NO QUARREL WITH, AD I BELIEVE THE REMOVAL OF THE PENDING ORDINANCE LANGUAGE TAKES AWAY OUR CONCERN OVER PROCEDURAL DUE PROCESS QUESTIONS. I THINK THE JUNE ABSOLUTE DATE IS VERY FAIR TO MY CLIENTS AND TO OTHER CLIENTS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND RERES. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE DISCUSSION ON THE MERITS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR EXTENDED TIME IN HEARING US TODAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR. WE HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE ON THE SECOND FLOOR THAT'S HEAR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? MR. BENTLEY? >>MARK BENTLEY: GOOD AFTERNOON. DOES THE OVERHEAD WORK? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>MARK BENTLEY: MARK BENTLEY, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, TAMPA APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO BE CITY'S PROPOSED SUGGESTED ALTERNATIVE. MR. DINGFELDER, YOU INDICATED THAT THIS WAS NOT A LAST MINUTE THING. AND, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM HERE IS THIS IS KIND OF A SPILLOVER FROM FOCUS ON THE GANDY SITUATION, SOUTH OF GANDY, BUT NOW THIS CHANGE HAS AN OVERALL IMPACT ON THE ENTIRE CITY. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, HERE IS A MAP,% A CRUDE MAP THAT I PUT TOGETHER WHILE WAITING, OF YBOR CITY, AND YOU CAN SEE THE THREE LAND USE DESIGNATIONING THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED UMU CMU CC-35. THEY COMPRISE PROBABLY THE MAJORITY OF YBOR CITY. SO ONCE THIS PENDING ORDINANCE TAKES EFFECT, THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO ONLY DEVELOPING THESE PROPERTIES AS MIXED USE, NOT A SINGLE USER. AND THE QUAY THINGS ARE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT MIXED USE, YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE CONTEXT OF THE DEVELOPMENT, NOT JUST PARTICULAR PROJECT. IT'S NOT LIKE EACH RESIDENTIAL PROJECT HAS A GIFT SHOP OR A FLOWER SHOP TO GET AROUND THEHE U KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT'S IN THE AREA. SO THE CONCERN WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE CLIENTS WHO DON'T NEED THE REZONINGS IN YBOR CITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE PROPER ZONING, BUT THEY DO UTILIZE THE SINGLE-USE, THOUGHT CATEGORIES, AS A SINGLE USE, AND THEY ARE IN THE PLANNING PROCESS, FOR EXAMPLE. SO MY QUESTION I WOULD POSE TO BE YOU AND YOUR STAFF IS, IF THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE DOES NOT KICK IN, LET'S SAY, FOR SIXTY DAYS, HOW IS SOMEONE VESTED AGAINST THE APPLICATION OF THAT ORDINANCE IFFHEHEY DON'T NEED A REZONING, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, MY CLIENTS ARE IN THE PROCESS RATE NOW OF GOING BEFORE BARRIO LATINO OR DESIGNING THEIR PROJECTS RIGHT NOW AND RELANES ON SINGLE USER F.A.R.? SO WHAT ASSURANCE WOULD SOMEONE HAVE THAT ON JOHN 1st THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON THEM AND STOP WHAT THEY INTENDED TO DO? SO WE JUST NEED SOME CERTAINTY WITH RESPECT TO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN SIXTY DAYS IF YOU DON'T NEED A REZONING? SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS MAYBE PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY SAID THEY HAVE IN A OPINION ON THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AT THIS POINT IN TIME THAT MAYBE WE CAN PULL OUT, SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT FROM THIS PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE I THINK YOUR PLANNING STAFF, THEY WOULD AGREE, AND I KNOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION KNOWS THAT THE HIGHER DENSITIES ARE MORE APPROPRIATE IN THE URBAN CORE, PLACES LIKE YBOR CITY IS REALLY NOT PROBLEMATIC. SO I WOULD MAKE THAT SUGGESTION TO COUNCIL AS TO MAYBE EXTRACT THE URBAN CORE, YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT FROM THE PENDING ORDINAN D DOCININE AND JUST LET IT GO THROUGH THE REGULAR PROCESS. IN THE ALTERNATIVE, IF WE CAN GET SOME KIND OF ASSURANCE FROM THE CITY AT THIS POINT IN TIME AS TO WHAT WOULD BE YALE CALL IT INVESTING AGAINST THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS BUT DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO REZONE THEIR PROPERTY. I THINK GINA HAD MENTIONED REZONING APPLICATIONS. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE GO TO STEPHANIE POYNOR, JUST A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE COMMENTS BY MR. BENTLEY. WOULD I B BE POSSIBLE TO EXCLUDE YBOR CITY CONSIDERING THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION, CONSIDERING THERE'S A HEIGHT RESTRICTION IN THE HISTORIC AREA? BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES? GINA? >>GINA GRIMES: WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, IT'S A VALID POINT. I HAVEN'T REALLY GIVEN IT THOUGHT. BUT WHEN I SUGGESTED EARLIER WAS THAT I COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS WITH THE RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE, THAT IMPLEMENTS THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE STARTING JUNE 1. SO MR. BENTLEY A AND I, ANYONE ELSE ON OUR STAFF, COULD DISCUSS WHAT HE IS REQUESTING, AND THEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, THAT IS SOMETHING -- IT'S A VALID POINT BUT I CAN'T GIVE YOU A GOOD ANSWER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT BY APRIL 15th? >>GINA GRIMES: TWO WEEKS. YES. AND WORK WITH HIM IN BETWEEN. >>MARK BENTLEY: THANK YOU ALL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN WE HAVE STEPHANIE POYNOR ON THE LINE. IF YOU ARE THERE PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> I FEEL SPECIAL. TWICE IN A N ONE DAY. SO I CAN'T SAY THAT I BLAME FOLKS FOR NOT UNDERSTANDING -- AND [~DISTORTION~] YBOR CITY, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND AS A NOVICE, AND SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LAND USE OR LAWYERS OR ANY OF THAT STUFF, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE -- [~DISTORTION~] AND CITY-WIDE. BUT IT'S NOT THAT I AM UNHAPPY ABOUT IT. BUT WE'LL TAKE WHAT WE CAN GET. BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, IF YOU CAN EXTRACT YBOR CITY, WHY IS IT THAT WE ARE NOT EXTRACTED? LIKE I SAID THIS MORNING, THE CRA, ALL THESE DIFFERENT DESIGNATIONS, WE HAVE LOST GEOGRAPHICALLY AND THE PROBLEM IS WE ARE AT A DEAD-END, AND I AGREE WITH THIS, BUTMENT -- SO TO SEE THE F.A.R. GO AWAY. IF IT AFFECTS THE WHOLE CITY, THEN GOD BLESS YOU. BUT FROM THE URBAN VILLAGE THEN WHY COULDN'T YOU MAKE THIS EXCEPTION? [~DISTORTION~] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL COME BACK WITH THAT APRIL 15th REGARDING YBOR CITY AND OTHER ISSUES. SO THERE WILL BE MORE CLARIFICATION THEN. COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: AND MR. BENTLEY'S POINTS WERE HE I THINK SO PIVOTAL. HE APPEARED TO BE SATISFIED BY THAT, BUT IN OTHER WORDS, MR. BENTLEY, IF I MAY, DOES THAT SATISFY YOUR CONCERNS GOING FORWARD? JUST BECAUSE THAT'S SUCH A PIVOTAL ISSUE HE BRINGS OUT? I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S STILL THERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BENTLEY, IF YOU ARE STILL AROUND, IF YOU COULD COME TO THE KIOSK. IS MUCH ANYBODY AT THE KIOSK? THERE HE IS. >>LUIS VIERA: THERE HE IS. >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I, MR. CHAIR? MR. BENTLEY, I JUST WANTED TOO MAKE SURE. YOU APPEAR TO BE SATISFIED BY MS. GRIMES STATEMENT THAT IT SATISFIED YOU FOR NOW GOING FORWARD. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION THAT MY SUGGESTIONS WAS RIGHT. >>MARK BENTLEY: WELL, IN RESPONSE, MY UNDERSTANDING, MS. GRIMES AND I WOULD DISCUSS AND ULTIMATELY IF THE URBAN CORE, YBOR, IS NOT EXEMPTED THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME KIND OF FRAMEWORK OR CRY TER YAK TO ESTABLISH WHEN OUR PROPERTY WAS NOT SUBJECTS TO THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE. THAT WAS MY IRERESSNN WALKING A QUAY FROM HERE. GINA, DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THAT? >>GINA GRIMES: THAT'S ACCURATE. WHEN WE GET INTO THE ISSUES, THOUGH, IT WILL PROBABLY EXPAND A LITTLE BIT MORE. THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCES TO BE THIS, AND WE ARE TRYING TO GO AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO SHOW THAT WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD, AND THAT WE ARE WILLING TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROPOSAL, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED THAT RELATE TO IT, AND MARK, THE ISSUE THAT YOU BROUGHTP ABOUT THE WISDOM AND MAKING IT THIS ELIMINATION OF THE F.A.R. CALCULATION APPLY IN PLACES LIKE YBOR CITY OR OTHER AREAS WHERE WE WANTED DIRECT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, TRANSIT CORRIDORS. THOSE ARE ALL ISSUES THAT I THINK AS WE GO THROUGH THE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS, WE WILL LEAVE THAT IN. BUT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS DURING THE THIS PENDENCY OF THAT PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS HOW WE ADDRESS YOUR S SITUATION IN THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE. SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE G GIV Y YOU KNOW,-I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU AND I THINK WE CAN WORK IT OUT. I DO. BUT WATCH WE ARE GOING TO WORK OUT IS WITH RESPECT TO THE PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE, AND THEN WE HAVE TO ALLOW THE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS TO TAKE ITS COURSE SO EVERYONE HAS PUBLIC INPUT ON THAT, SO IN THE END THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT IN YBOR CITY THAT YOU WILL RETAIN THE RATE TO USE THAT F.A.R. CALCULATION FOR SINGLE-USE MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS. YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE YOUR SAME PRESENTATION DURING THE PENDENCY OF VARIOUS HEARINGS THAHATILILL TAKE PLACE DURING THE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS. >>MARK BENTLEY: EXCUSE ME, I THOUGHT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT CITY COUNCIL HAD DIRECTED MS. GRIMES TO CONSIDER DELETING YBOR CITY OR THE URBAN CORE FROM THE OVERALL PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE AND JUST DEAL -- IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A CHANGE, DEAL WITH IT THROUGH THE TYPICAL PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ULTIMATELY. >>GINA GRIMES: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. >>MARK BENTLEY: OKAY. SO BASICALLY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YBOR OR THE URBAN CORE, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT -- >>GINA GRIMES: THE BENDING ORDINANCE. >>MARK BENTLEY: IN THE ALTERNATIVE, IF YOU BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE, THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CRITERIA, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, TO VEST THE PROPERTY PENDING. >>GINA GRIMES: RIGHT. >>MARK BENTLEY: FOR THE RECORD, I REPRESENTED DARRELL SHAW AND HIS RELATED CORPORATIONS, THE CAPITANO FAMILY AND THEIR RELATED CORPORATIONS, NCJ INVESTK CAPITANO, ET CETERA, MARK BENTLEY. THANK YOU. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. CHAIR. GIVEN THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ISSUES MR. BENTLEY RAISED, JUST OUT OF ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. SIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKERS? >>THE CLERK: I HAVE GENE ZERO MAYOR. >> IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND WE'LL WRAP IT UP WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS BECAUSE THERE IS NOBODY ELSE ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND THAT WASAS IT. GENE STROHMEYER. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. WE HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, AGAIN. JUST IN ECHOING WHAT STEPHANIE HAD SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE JUST BEEN THROUGH SUCH A LONG PROCESS WITH THIS, AND WE HAVE COME TO A SOLUTION, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, SINGLING OUT, WE WOULDN'T MIND SINGLING OUT YBOR CITY, BUT WE TRIED TO SINGLE OURSELVES OUT BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUENESS OF THE PENINSULA. BUT IT WASN'T POSSIBLE, OR SINGLE OUT THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA. WE DIDN'T WANT TO BRING ANYBODY ELSE INTO OUR FIGHT BECAUSE WE ARE A UNIQUE SITUATION DOWN HERE. BUT LEGALLY, I GUESS FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, IT WAS NOT PLAUSIBLE AND IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO. SO WE APOLOGIZE TO ANYBODY ELSE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AFFECTED BY THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS AND FIGHTING THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. SO I HOPE YOUUYUYS GET WHAT YOU WANT AND WE ALL ARE TRYING TO MAKE OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS A BETTER PLACE. WE ARE EXPERTS IN OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN YBOR. I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN BEACH PARK OR ANYWHERE ELSE BUT I AM AN EXPERT IN SOUTH OF GANDY. ANYWAY, THANKS EVERYBODY. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAD THE MOTION. COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS GOING TO HAVE A FOLLOW-UP MOTION AS HE MENTIONED. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER THINGS I WANT TO SAY IS THANK YOU MY COLLEAGUES. I WAS OUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND YOU ALL DELAYED THIS. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VOTE WOULD HAVE BEEN BUT WE MIGHT HAVE HAD A MORATORIUM. BUT BECAUSE YOU DELAYED IT, WE HAVE A YOU MIGHT CALL A COMPROMISE AGREEMENT. SO THANK YOU ALSO. IF SOMEBODY ELSE REALLY WANTS TO MAKE THIS MOTION YOU ARE WELCOME TO DO IT BUT OTHERWISE, WHAT DO I SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION? >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY CARLSON, SECOND BY CITRO. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, MR. CHAIRIRMA THE RESOLUTION -- >>> ITEM NUMBER 46. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT. THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION SENT TO THE CLERK, AND THERE'S AN ATTACH. A, WHICH IS A DRAFT ORDINANCE, TWO PAGES, AS WELL AS AN EXHIBIT, TWO-PAGE EXHIBIT ATTACHED TO THE DRAFT ORDINANCE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S RIGHT. >>GINA GRIMES: AND IT'S DATED 4-1. AT THE END. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND DATED APRIL 1st. >>BILL CARLSON: DO WE NEED TO INCLUDE THAT APRIL 15th WHATEVER WAS IN THE MOTION? >>GINA GRIMES: I THINKth THAT'S THE FOLLOW-UP MOTION JOHN WAS GOING TO MAKE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [OFF MICROPHONE] IT. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >> YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >> COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. IN REGARD TO THE FOLLOW-UP MOTION, THAT ON APRIL 15th, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT RETURN TO APPROPRIATE LEGAL DOCUMENTATION TO PUT INTO EFFECT STARTING JUNE 1st, 2021, THAT THE CITY SHALL NOT ACCEPT REZONING APPLICATIONS WHICH UTILIZE THE F.A.R. CALCULATION FOR SINGLE USE, MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, IN ANY UMU-60, CMU-35, AND CC-35 COMP PLAN CATEGORIES. SO SPECIFICALLY OR TO RECAP THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT WILL COME BACK ON APRIL 15th AND BRING THE DOCUMENTATION NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE ADDITIONAL ORDINANCE OR WHAT HAVE YOU THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE JUNE 1st. THE PURPOSE OF THIS MOTION IS TO PUT EVERYBODY ON NOTICE THAT AS OF JOHN 1st, WE'LL BE CHANGING THIS AS RELATED TO THE F.A.R. CALCULATION FOR SINGLE-USE PROJECTS IN THE UMU 60, CMU-35 AND CC-35 CATEGORY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAS A MOTION. SECOND FMM COUNCILMAN CITRO. COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR. YES, AND I WILL OBVIOUSLY BE SUPPORTING THIS, YOU KNOW, FROM WAY HEARD IN PUBLIC COMMENT, THE FIRST GO-AROUND AND WHAT I HEARD THIS HENNING,R EVENINGS, AGAIN I HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT WE WERE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING TODAY, BECAUSE IT APPEARED TOP TAKE SOME SIGNIFICANT ACTION WITH, YOU KNOW, A PROCESS THAT I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER ON. I THINK THIS IS THE PROCESS WHERE WE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE AND HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION AND GIVE PEOPLE PROPER NOTICE, AND WE CAN TALK THROUGH THIS ISSUE, ET CETERA, AND WITH REGARDS TO BIG IDEAS, LIKE A CHANGE IN THE COMP PLAN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THEM TAKE TIME. I MEAN, WE JUST PASSED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE THAT PROBABLY BEGAN MEETING WITH PEOPLE ON ABOUT A YEAR AND THREE MONTHS AGO. SO A LOT OF THESE THINGS UNFORTUNATELY TAKE A WHILE. BUT THAT'S HOW GOOD LEGISLATION OR GOOD ORDINANCES GO THROUGH IS BY TAKING A LONG TIME. SO A LOT OF THE OBJECTIONS THAT I HAD AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN REMEDIED, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN OTHERWISE. JUST WANTED TO SAY. THAT THANK YOU, SIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, EARLIER, UNDER NEW BUSINESS, I SAID I HAVE GOT AN ITEM THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP AS RELATED TO THIS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY. BRING IT UP NOW WHILE THE, WHAT IS IT, IRON IS HOT? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, I WOULD LIKE TO. AT FRIDAY'S MEETING THE SOUTH OF GANDY FOLKS RENT PRESENTED THE MAYOR AND STAFF WITH A ONE-PAGE, 14-ITEM LIST OF CONCERNS. AND PART OF THE REASON THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS SETTLEMENT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, PROCESS IS THAT STAFF ASSURED THEM THAT THEY WOULD ADDRESS -- AND THEY DID ADDRESS SOMEMEF THEM ON FRIDAY BUT STAFF ASSURED THEM THAT OVER THE NEXT X PERIOD OF TIME THAT STAFF ONE CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THESE 14 ITEMS. NOW, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE WE CAN RESOLVE ALL 14. THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT EVERYBODY WILL BE SATISFIED. AND THEY DID PROMISE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY WOULD ADDRESS THESE 14 ITEMS. SO WESTBOUND THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE -- AND I WILL PROVIDE THE CLERK WITH A COPY OF THE 14 ITEMS, PAGE THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT, AND COUNCIL ALREADY RECEIVED IT -- >>> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IF COULD U U PLSESE MUTE YOUR MICROPHONE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNCIL HAS ALREADY RECEIVED THE 14 ITEM PAGE. I WILL PROVIDE A COPY TO THE CLERK. BUT WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS A MOTION THAT STARTING IN JUNE, THAT STAFF, UNDER STAFF REPORTS, STAFF WOULD COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT THESE 14 ITEMS. AND THEN EVERY QUARTER THEREAFTER THAT STAFF WOULD COME BACK AND CONTINUE TO TALK TO US ABOUTHEHESE44 ITEMS, AND THEN THAT WAY, THE COMMUNITY DOWN THERE DOESN'T HAVE TO KEEP PEST TERING US BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A REGULAR THINGS AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT YEAR OR SO UNTIL WE CAN WORK THROUGH THESE 14 ITEMS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IS MS. POST STILL ON THE WEBINAR? >>CAROLE POST: I AM STILL LISTENING. I'M HERE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO ASK COUNCIL, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO REFER TO THE STAFF IN TERMS OF THE TIME FRAME FOR THE PRESENTATION JUST SO WE GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THEM AS TO WHETHER THEY Y WI B ABLE TO COMPLY WITH THAT WHILE THEY ARE ON THE LINE, IF YOU DON'T MIND. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND MY SUGGESTION IS WE START WITH THIS 90 DAYS FROM NOW, AND LIKE I SAID, JUST UPDATES, OKAY? HERE ARE THESE ITEMS. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE ON THIS ITEM. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE ON THIS ITEM. WE HAVEN'T STARTED THIS ITEM YET, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. AND JUST GIVE QUARTERLY UPDATES SO THE COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT WE THE CITY ARE LISTENING AND WE HAVEN'T DROPPED THE BALL. >> IF I MAY. CAROLE POST, ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. I APPRECIATE THE SPIRIT OF THE MOTION. A QUESTION CERTAINLY NEVER HAD ANY OBJECTION TO KEEPING THE COUNCIL AND OUR COMMUNITY APPRAISED OF PROGRESS. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AND THE NEXT STEPS THAT WERE COMMITTED TO ON THAT FRIDAY MEETING THAT WE ALL ATTENDED WERE THAT THE 14 ITEMS ACTUALLY BROKE INTO THREE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF FOLLOW-UP. THE FIRST WAS WITHIN PLANNING AND DEVELELOPNTNT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT. OBVIOUSLY WE ARE TAKING THE FIRST STEP TODAY ON WHAT WAS NUMBER ONE ON THAT LIST. RELATIVE ITEMS, I DON'T HAVE IN THE FRONT OF ME, BUT WE CATALOGUED AND ALIGNED WITH OUR CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND RANDY GOERS WORK PLAN. SO THOSE WILL HAVE A HOME, FULL, AND AS SOON AS WE GET BACK TO THAT WORK PLAN, THEY WILL BE UNDERWAY. THE SECOND THAN CONCERNED TRANSPORTATION AND EVACUATION RELATED MATTERS. OUR REPRESENTATIVE THERE FROM THE TRANSPORTATIOIONOBOBILYY TMM AGREED TO TAKE THAT ON AND HAVE A MINI TASK FORCE TO RESPOND TO THE SPECIFIC REQUESTS AND BEYOND THAT AND TO TAKE THAT ON A SEPARATE PATH FOR THOSE FOLLOW-UP DISCUSSIONS. AND THE THIRD WAS WITH RESPECT TO EMERGENCY EVACUATION AND THE MANAGEMENTS OF THAT PROCESS, AND CHIEF BENNETT AGREED TO TAKE THAT ON WITH THE FAIR RESCUE GROUP AND OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM. SO I FEEL LIKE WE HAD A VERY CLEAR PLAN, COMMUNITY GROUP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP WAS IN CONCERT WITH THAT AND OUR COMMITMENT IS TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT. AGAIN, NO RESERVATIONS TO KEEP THE COUNCIL APPRAISED OF IT. I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK IN JOHN, AFTER JOHN 1, AND GIVE A PRELIMINARY REPORT, AND THEN FOR EACH ITEM WE WILL BE ABLE TO CORRELATE WHAT A FURTHER FOLLOW-UP MIGHT BE FOR THOSE FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE. THAT'S A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT OUR PLANS WERE AND OUR AGREEMENT WITH THAT COMMUNITY GROUP FOR ATTENDING TO THEIR SPECIFIC REQUESTS. >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP? >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT IT COVERS MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, BUT THE OTHER THING IS THAT -- AND MAYBE THERE'S A POINT PERSON LIKE A PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE CITY THAT COULD COME BACK AND LEAD THIS WITH US, AND BEYOND THE LIST THAT THEY LISTED, THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT NEED TO ADDRESSED, AND UPDATES THAT CAN BE GIVEN AS WELL. YOU ALL KNOW THAT MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY WERE IGNORED FOR AT LEAST EIGHT YEARS AND IT WASN'T BAUAUSEF F THE RECESSION, IT WAS BECAUSE RESOURCES WERE FOCUS DOLLARS ELSEWHERE. AND WE HAD NEIGHBORHOODS ALL OVER THE CITY THAT ARE ASKING US FOR RESOURCES. IN SOUTH TAMPA I CAN TELL YOU THIS ONE IS THE ONE THAT HAD THE GREATEST NEED. EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS NEEDS, BUT THIS ONE HAS A GREAT NEED, AND WE NEED TO FOCUS SOME RESOURCES. PART OF IT IS ABOUT EQUITY AND BRINGING UP THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE IGNORED FOR WAY TAKE LONG AND IT'S TRULY IN EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA AND ELSEWHERE. SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY FOCUSING ON THIS. AND THE MORE ATTENTION WE CAN BRING TO IT, THE MORE EQUITY Y E NN BLDLD IN OUR COMMUNITY. LAST THING, SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MS. GRIMES ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING. PART OF MY PROFESSION IS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. I DON'T DO IT WITH THE CITY ANYMORE BECAUSE OF CONFLICTS. BUT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT HAS TO BE THE STANDARD, NOT THE EXCEPTION. THIS PROCESS TAGS A LOT OF TIME. IT TACK A LOT OF NEGOTIATION. AND IT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING PROCESS. BUT YOU CAN SEE THIS MAYOR AND THIS CITY COUNCIL ARE VERY COMMITTED TO IT. LOOK AT THE TAMPA BAST PROCESS, LOOK AT THE PROCESS RANDY GOERS IS DOING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING DISTRICTS. WE ARE CHANGING THE PROCESS. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME BUT CARRY CHANGING THE PROCESS AND TRAINING AND RETRAINING AND GETTING PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TONG DO THIS AND WE ARE TRYING TO PLAN A BETTER, AND WE GET FLOODED WITH COMPLAINTS EVERY DAY, AND I KNOW THERE ARE 100 TAMES MORE THAT THAT ARE OUT THERE AND WE ARE TRYING TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BUT TRYING TO SET UP LISTENING SERVICES AND PUN ENGAGEMENT I THINK WILLEAEAD TO MORE ROBUST SOLUTIONS. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD. COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, YOU HAD A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST FOR CLARITY, OUR SECOND MEETING IN JUNE? >> OUR SECOND MEETING IN JOHN JUST TO GET A DATE -- >> JUNE 17th. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, THE 17th. YES MA'AM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND QUARTER QUARTERLY THEREAFTER. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >> EXCUSE ME. IF I MAY, SIR. I HEARD TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THERE. I HEARD A 90-DAY REPORT, BUT JUNE, 90 DAYS QUO FUTURE US PAST JULY WHICH FRANKLY GIVEN WHAT WE HAVE JUST TAKEN ON WOULD BE PREFERRED. >>: I CAN LIVE WITH THAT. FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST. [OFF MICROPHONE] SECOND FROM COUNCILMANAN DING. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA BECAUSE ITEM NUMBER 47 CAME THROUGH AS A STAFF REPORT -- I'M SORRY, AS A MEMO. IT WILL COME BACK TO US IN TWO WEEKS. I KNOW THAT LAST WEEK, AND I KNOW TIME WAS OF THE ESSENCE. HONORARY STREET SIGN FOR TAMPA BAY RADIO LEGEND TEDD WEBB WHO PASSED AWAY A FEW DAYS AGO. I HOPE HE HEARD THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE THURSDAY. I KNOW WE BROUGHT IT UP ON THE RADIO THAT MORNING, AND I KNOW HE WAS LISTENING. SO AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, WHEREVER HE IS, I KNOW THAT THERE IS MORE TO LIFE. MY FAITH SAYS THERE'S MORE AFTER WE LEAVE THIS EARTH, BUT WE'LL COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND I WILL WORK WITH THE STAFF ON THAT. AND THIS ALSO IS IN RESPONSE TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES REGARDING HONORARY STREET SIGNS. IT'S ALL IN THE MEMO. SO HAVING SAID THAT -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST TO CLARIFY, SHORTER AFTER WE LEAVE THIS EARTH. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MEETINGS ARE ETERNAL. THERE'S NO TIME. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, WE WILL MISTED WEB. HE'S A GREAT GAY. >> >> IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS? I KNOW I TOOK EVERYBODY BUT I HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS. >>LUIS VIERA: DON'T YOU NEED TO DO -- >>> YES. I LISTENED TO THE WORDS OF COUNCIL AND THOSE WERE MOVING CRA TO A SEPARATE DAY ON TOSS. THEREFORE ADDING ANOTHER WORKSHOP IN THE MEETING. I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE OPPOSED TO THAT. SO WE COULD SCRATCH LEAVE CRA WHERE IT'S AT AND LEAVE THE WORKSHOP TO ONE PER MEETING. SO WE WILL SCRATCH ITEM 3 AND 6. AND THEN THE REST OF THE ITEMS OF THE 12, I THINK, WE ARE OKAY. IF THERE IS NO OTHER DISCUSSION ON IT, I PASS THE GAVEL TO COUNCILMEMBER CITRO AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THAN THE NOW TEN ITEMS, SINCE THIS HAS BEEN MODIFIED INN MYY MEMO. COUNCILMAN CITRO. >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON. ALL IN FAVOR? OR ROLL CALL VOTE. ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: >>CHARLIE MIRIRAN: : I CAN'T. I DON'T SLEEP. >> N.E.A.T. DO I. AND ONE MORE ITEM. [ LAUGHTER ] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR. AND WHEN WE HAVE SPECIAL DISCUSSION ON MONDAY, WE DISCUSSED SALARY FOR MR. SHELBY. WE CAME DOWN WITH THE ANALYSIS OF OTHER ATTORNEYS THAT ARE COMPARABLE. WE LOOKED AT H TIME OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, WHICH IS 17 YEARS. WE SAW THAT SINCE 2007 THERE WAS NO MERIT PAY INCREASE. MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT IN THIS BUDGET COMING UP, I AM NOT ASKING FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT, IN THIS BUDGET COMING UP, WE BEGIN FISCAL YEAR, THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR OCTOBER 1st, THAT WE SET -- I'M SORRY, MR. SHELBY'S SALARY AT $155,000. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND -- MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY BEING DINGFELDER. ANY DISCUSSION? >>ORLANDO GUDES: WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I RESPECT THE CHAIRMAN AND WHAT HE'S PUT FORTH. BUT I LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF YEARS, AND THE MAN IS STILL WORKING. WE ALL KNOW IF WE ARE WORKING WE WANT TO BE PAID MORE. I LOOK AT THE FACTS. I'M JUST SORRY. A MAN THAT WORKS FOR ME IN MY HOUSE, AND I AM GOING TO PAY A PERSON COMPARABLE, BUT I AM NOT GOING TO HOLD HIS PAY TO WAIT TILL DOWN THE ROAD. FOR ME, I DON'T THINK HE NEED TO WAIT. WHY SHOULD HE HAVE TO QUITE? YOU WAIT 13, 14 YEARS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT PART OF THE MOTION, THE WAIT? >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SAID BEGINNING OCTOBER 1st. JUST FOR A SMATTERRARANSITION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S JUST NOT MY THING. I'M A DIFFERENT KIND OF GUY NOW. BUT TO HOLD HIM UM TO WAIT TILL ANOTHER BUDGET JEER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DIDN'T CATCH THAT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT. HE'S BEEN WORKING, HE'S BEEN WAITING, HE WORKS FOR US. I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT. I'M SORRY, I JUST HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT MAKING HIM WAIT. >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. GRIMES, I SEE YOUR HAND IS HELD UP. MS. GRIMES. >>GINA GRIMES: YES. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SALARY AND THE BENEFITS. AS YOU KNOW, THE CHARTER ALLOWS YOU TO ESTABLISH THE SALARY FOR THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. AND IT DOES SAY THAT IT SHALL BE COMPARABLE TO OTHER ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEYS. AND SO IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE TO LOOK AT WHETHER 1551 COMPARABLE TO OTHER ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEYS WITH SIMILAR EXPERIENCE. 155. BUT THE MORE IMPORTANT FACTORS ATTORNEYS ARE SUBJECT TOCITY ANNUAL LEAVE, SICK LEAVE, AND EXEMPT LEAVE SO THEY ONLY GET TWO WEEKS OF ANNUAL AND SICK LEAF EVERY YEAR, AND MY QUESTION IS, IN ORDER FOR DOCTOR SHELBY TO BE COMPARABLE, WOULD YOU ALSO BE IMPOSING THAT SAME LIMITATION? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE THE GAVEL. >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MS. GRIMES, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I FOR ONE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS EXHAUSTIVELY. I HAVE LOOOOKET ALL OF THE SALARIES THAT ARE LISTED WITH THE VALUABLE ASSISTANTS, CHIEF ASSISTANTS, ET CETERA, UPSTAIRS. I AM TEN YEARS FAMILIAR WITH THE HARD WORK THAT MR. SHELBY PUTS IN AS ALL OF YOU KNOW. SO I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION IN MY MIND IS THE QUESTION THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES RAISED, AND I AM GLAD YOU CAUGHT THAT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER. I THINK WE SHOULD SET THAT AMOUNT. AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE EFCTCTIVWIWITH T THE NEXT AVAILABLE PAY PERIOD. BUT MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THE MOTION,. >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SAY THIS. NOT OPPOSED TO ANYONE GETTING A RAISE. WHAT I SEE HERE COMING IS THE CONTINUATION OF SOMETHING THAT WOULD LEAD TO SOMETHING WE AREN'TEN THINKING ABOUT THAT. WHY DON'T YOU GIVE A SALARY RAISE TO ANYONE OTHER THAN THOSE THAT HAVE WORKED 40 HOURS. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAY, 40 HOURS, I'M NOT SAYING HE DOESN'T OR HE DISDOES. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS. CITY ATTORNEYS WORK 40 HOURS, NOT ONLY WHAT THEY DO WHEN THEY TAKE HOME. THEY DON'T HAVE FIVE WEEKS VACATION AND THEY DON'T HAVE UNLIMITED SICK LEAF. IF WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, AND YOU WANT TO TURN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT UPSIDE DOWN, THEN HE SHOULD GET TWO WEEKS VACATION AND TWO WEEKS SICK LEAF. MONEY IS ONE THING. BUT WHEN YOU ADD THE TOTAL PACKAGE OF THE PAY VERSUS FIVE WEEKS, AND UNLIMITED WHAT? UNLIMITED SICK PAY? THERE IS NO CORPORATION IN AMERICA THAT HAS GOT THAT. SO WE TALK ABOUT RUNNING THE CITY, LIKE A BRIST BUSINESSMAN, LIKE PRIVATE ENTERPRISE, SHOW ME THAT. SHOW ME WHAT WE ARE DOING IS THE RATE THING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. AND I AM NOT SAYING HE DOESNSN'T SESERVE A RAISE. BUT YOU CAN'T GIVE A RAISE AND FIVE WEEKS VACATION AND SICK LEAF. AND I AM NOT AGAINST ANYONE GETTING A RAISE. AM GOING TO SAY THAT AGAIN. IF YOU LOOK AT -- I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO DO IT BUT I GUARANTEE IF YOU LOOK AT THE TIME OF PAY INCREASE, WHAT CITY -- NOW MAYBE I AM WRONG -- A ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY GETS A RAISE AND THEN A MERRITT RAISE IN THE SAME YEAR? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO OR NOT. I HAVE NEVERER TALKED TO MS. GRIMES ABOUT THAT. BUT I AM ASKING MYSELF, SHOULD I VOTE FOR THIS THE WAY IT IS? THE ANSWER IS NO. BUT YOU ALL DO WHAT YOU WANT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES COMING UP WHETHER IT TAKES INTO EFFECT RIGHT NOW, WHETHER WE WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BRINGS UP A LOT OF ISSUES, AND I KNOW WE ALWAYS PAY HIM A LOT OF DEFERENCE. I THINK ALL SEVEN OF US WANT TO DO RIGHT BY OUR DEAR FRIEND MR. SHELBY WHO DOES SUCH A GREAT JOB. IS THERE ANY WAY THATHIHIS NN BE TABLED FOR A WEEK? SO THAT WE CAN ASK PRIVATE QUESTIONS? BECAUSE FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT MAY NOT -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY ARE IMPROPER BUT THERE'S JUST FURTHER INQUIRIES, WHAT'S HE MAKING NOW, WAR GOING TO BE ASSOCIATED CHANGES, IF ANY? LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY. IF WE ARE GOING TO GIVE MR. SHELBY A RAISE, WHO ALL OF US LIKE A LOT, I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE A 7-ZERO VOTE. THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING. >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO HIT A FEW POINTS. I DON'T THINK MR. SHELBY SHOULD BE LIMITED TO 40 HOURS A WEAK WORKING. I SEE THAT HE WORKS WAY MORE THAN THAT, PROBABLY UP INTO THE 70, 80-HOUR RANGE. I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH HIM LAKE AT 10:00 LAST NIGHT, I'M ON THE PHONE WITH HIM SATURDAYINGS AND SUNDAYS AND I THINK YOU ALL ARE THE SAME. THE NEW WORKPLACE IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO SIT IN AN OFFICE ALL DAY, ESPECIALLY NOW DURING COVID. I DON'T CARE WHERE HE SITS AS LONG AS HE ANSWER IT IS PHONE. AND THE ONLY TIME HE DOESN'T ANSWER THE PHONE IS WHEN HE'E'S LKLKIN T TO ONE OF YOU ALL. I'M NUMBER 7 ON THE LIST. [ LAUGHTER ] BUT IN TERMS OF WORK ETHIC, I AM NOT AWARE THAT HE'S TAKEN MORE THAN TWO WEEKS OF VACATION, BUT I KNOW THAT THE TIMES THAT HE HAS NOT BEEN IN TAMPA, HE'S BEEN AVAILABLE CONSTANTLY THROUGHOUT THE DAY. SOMETIMES HE CALLS ME WHILE HE'S AWAY, AND ANYTIME I CALL HIM HE PICKS UP THE PHONE. AND HE'S ABLE TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME. I DID AN ANALYSIS -- I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON PAY IN THE LEGAL INDUSTRY, BUT I LOOKED AT IT. I HAVE TO SET PAY I I MY BUSINES AND I HAVE LOOKED AT LAWYER PAY BEFORE COMPARED TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR. ALL OF THEM ARE PAID WELL TAKE WELL. BUT I SAID LAST WEEK HE SHOULD BE IN THE 160, 180 RANGE. I THINK 1551 TOO LOW. IF ANYBODY LOOKS AT IT, THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OF WHAT HE HAD BEFORE BUT THAT'S BECAUSE HE HASN'T HAD A RAISE IN 15 YEARS OR MORE. I THINK THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND PART OF WAS CAUSED BY THE RECESSION, PART OF IT WAS CAUSED BY I THINK PEOPLE PLAYED SOME POLITICAL MANEUVERS AND WE NEED TO BRING EQUITY BACK TO ALL POSITIONS IN THE CITY. WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LEGISLATIVE AIDES. THEY WEREN'T PAID FAIRLY. THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE ADJUSTED AS WELL. I KNOW THAT ADMINISTRATION IS COMMITTED TO TRYING TO DO THAT. ANYWAY, I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. WAITING 15 YEARS JEERS IS LONG ENOUGH. >>JOSEPH CITRO: TO YOUR POINT THE ONLY TIME HE CUTS ME OFF ON A TELEPHONE CONVERSATION IS WHEN ONE OF YOU ALL CALL. COUNCILMAN GUDES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M LOST, MAN. I AM WITH THE OTHER GAY. I'M LOST. THE MAN IS PAID THIS LONG, AND HE'S OUR ATTORNEY. HE ANSWERS TO SEVEN GAYS. SEVEN GAYS. WE HAD A WORKSHOP. AND REALLY, I WAS KIND OF TAKEN ABACK. MR. CARLSON ASKED HIM A LOT OF PERSONAL QUESTIONS. BUT THE MAN ANSWERED. VACATION, NOW, DOING EXTRA WORK, THE MAN ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION. PERSONALLY.% THIS MAN, HE RUNS OUR HOUSE. THIS IS COMPARABLE TO A DEPUTY CHIEF ATTORNEY. >>GINA GRIMES: THAT'S NOT ACCURATE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MRS. GRIMES, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I AM JUST SAYING FOR OUR HOUSE RIGHT HERE, HE'S OUR MAN AND WHEN I SEE THE WORK THAT HE DOES. WHETHER YOU DEGREE WITH THAT, I RESPECT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. BUTTISM SAYING THIS. THIS MAN ANSWERS TO SEVEN PEOPLE. HE DETAILS WITH EVERY DAY, EVERY NIGHT, LATE NIGHT HE'S CALLING US, ALL SEVEN OF US. SO IT'S NOT LIKE HE'S OUT WORKING 40 HOURS A WEEK. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER WEEK. I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. VIERA IS SAYING. HE COHEN DOESN'T GET VACATION, HE DIDN'T ASK WHEN HE FIRST CAME IN. SO TO ME AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT, I'M READY TO MOVE, YOU KNOW. WE JUST HAD A NUMBER. BUT 1551 WAY TOO LOW FOR THIS MAN. >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IS THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR NOW? >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S WRITE WAS GOING, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MRMR. AIAIRM, , IUSUST WANT TO Y THIS. I DON'T WANT TO BE IN ANY WAY MISLEADING ANYONE BUT I THINK FIVE WEEKS VACATION AND UNLIMITED SICK LEAVE AS CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY IS NOT IN SESSION, SHOULD BE WORKING AND SICK LEAVE, HR SHOULD DO AN ANALYSIS TO SEE WHERE WE REALLY ARE. NO ONE OF US IS AN EXPERT. NONE. SO MY MOTION WOULD BE TO TAKE AN HR, LET THEM MAKE A COMPARATIVE STUDY OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS WORLD WITH CITIES THE SIZE OF TAMPA THAT HAVE THEIR OWN CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, SEE WHAT THE DEAL IS. AND WHAT -- BUT THERE'S VERY FEW CITIES LIKE THE CITY OF TAMPA. WE RUN SO GOOD SO WELL BECAUSE WE HAVE A A STRONG MAYORCISM OF GOVERNMENT WITH I LIKE IT OR DON'T LIKE IT WORKS BECAUSE OF RESPONSIBILITY. AND WHEN YOU HAVE RESPONSIBILITY, YOU HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE FACTS. AND THE FACTS ARE THAT'S WHY THE CITY OF TAMPA IS DOING SO WELL. THEY AREN'T COME HERE BECAUSE OF YOU AND I. THEY COME BECAUSE THEY SEE THIS WORKS WITH YOU AND I AS THE MAYOR, AND MOST EVER SOLVED BECAUSE IT GOES TO THE FIRST PHASE OR SECOND PHASE. THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING. WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING AT AN ANALYSIS. NOT THE WAY I HANDLE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. JUST TWO THINGS. NUMBER ONE, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHOEVER SAID IT BEFORE. I DON'T WANT HIM WORKING 40 HOURS A WEAK SITTING IN THIS OFFICE NINE TO FIVE, BECAUSE QUESTION DO WE DETAIL HIM? WE CALL HIM AT 7:00 AT NIGHT. I'M A NIGHT OWL. I BOTHER HIM AT NIGHT. 9:00, 10:00 AT NIGHT AND ON WEAK END. SO IT'S SORT OF APPLES AND ORANGES. BECAUSE THE REST OF THE CITY ATTORNEYS, THEY MIGHT BE -- THEY MIGHT BE WORKING A LOT OF TIME LIKE THAT, BUT I WOULDN'T BE PRESUMPTUOUS AND CALL THEM LAKE THAT. BUT AS COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID CORRECTLY, THIS IS OUR CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, AND HE'S ON CALL 24/7, AND FRANKLY, ESPECIALLY THIS PAST YEAR, WHO KNOWS HOW MANY HOURS HE'S BEEN WORKING? THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ON A HUMAN OROUS NOTE IT'S A GOOD THING WE ONLY SET ONE PERSON'S SALARY IN THIS ENTIRE CITY GOVERNMENT OF 57,000 PEOPLE, BECAUSE HERE WE ARE AN HOUR LATER STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE SHOULD GIVE THE MAN A $20,000 RAISE. THE FIRST REAL RAISE THAT HE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED IN THE LAST 15 YEARS. SOSO WHATEVER THE MOTIE FLOOR, I SAY LET'S GET ON WITH IT JOE. >>JOSEPH CITRO: PROCEDURALLY WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT IN NIP WAY. >>> I AM GOING TO KEEP IT AS IS AS 155 AND THEN LAN AT THE FUTURE, WHAT IS IT, A 3% MERRITT INCREASE AND GO WHEREVER THERE. BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE SET AT 155 BEGINNING WITH THE BUDGET FISCAL YEAR STARTING OCTOBER 1st. >>JOSEPHITITRO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, IS THE THAT STILL ACCEPTABLE TO YOU? YOU WERE THE SECONDER OF THE MOTION. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, AND I APOLOGIZE. I THINK WE ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME PAGE, MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. MANISCALCO. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC OF THE OCTOBER 1st. THAT'S THE ONLY THING. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY DO BUDGET AMENDMENT EVERY MONTH, I MEAN EVERY TWO WEEKS THEY DO BUDGET AMENDMENT. BUT THAT'S NOT BURDENSOME ON ANYBODY. BUT IT DOES DEPRIVE THEM OF A QUARTER OF A YEAR'SS SALARY WHEN HE'S ALREADY BEEN DEPRIVED FOR 15 YEARS Y.DO WE ADD INSULT TO INJURY? >> ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT IF I CHANGE THE MOTION TO BEGINNING -- TIME CARD FOR NEXT PAY PERIOD HAS ALREADY BEEN PROCESSED I THINK FOR NEXT FRIDAY. SO IT WOULD BE THE FOLLOWING PAY PERIOD, WHICH LET ME GET IS THE DATES. >>BILL CARLSON: DOESN'T AN EMPLOYEE AUTOMATICALLY GET THAT COST OF LIVING INCREASING? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS S CO BUT HE HASN'T RECEIVED A MERIT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE NEXT PAY PERIOD IS AFTER IS APRIL 23rd SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION THE SALARY BE ADJUSTED TO $155,000 BEGINNING WITH THE APRIL 23rd PAY PERIOD WHICH IS TIME CARD APPROVAL AND ALL THAT STUFF,. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND ANY ASSOCIATED RESOLUTION, WHAT DO THEY CALL IT, THE BUDGET RESOLUTION THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TO DO. >>LUIS VIERA: AND SO I WANT TO CLARIFY. SO THIS IS A REQUEST ON OUR PART AND TO BE WORKED OUT WITH BE THE ADMINISTRATION, OR IS IT SELF-EXECUTING? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK UNDER THE CHARTER IT'S SELF-EXECUTING. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PER THE CHARTER WE SET THE SALARY, OUR ATTORNEY, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING. CITY COUNCIL DOES. >>GINA GRIMES: I THINK YOU STILL HAVE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT. >> RIGHT. >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN I WANT TO BE CLEAR. I THINK WE OUGHT TO TABLE THIS FOR A WEAK. THAT'S MY OPINION. BUT I DON'T WANT TO VOTE AGAINST THE SALARY INCREASE FOR MR. SHELBY. I THINK THERE'S A RIGHT WAY TO DO IT AND NOT A RIGHT WAY TO DO IT RIGHT? I STILL STAND BY THAT. BUT I DON'T WANT TO VOTE AGAINST MRMR. ELELBY. I JUST, YOU KNOW, HEAR A COUNCILMEMBER OR TWO SAY THAT THEY NEED MORE INFORMATION. AND I DON'T WANT US TO ROLL AHEAD AND NOT HAVE A 7 TO ZERO VOTE. I WAS TRYING TO DO THIS AS A COURTESY. SO MY OBJECTIONS STAND BUT AGAIN I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE AGAINST MR. SHELBY. THANK YOU. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HEARD THE AMENDMENT MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. ARE YOU STILL IN FAVOR? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. THANK YOU FOR THE AMENDMENT. >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE. >>>>LU V VIERA: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO? I DIDN'T HEAR. COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID NO? >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN'T GO 155. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DINGFELDER YES. >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH MR. GUDES BUT I AM GOING TO SAY YES ANYWAY. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES AND MIRANDA VOTING NO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: TO MAKE IT CLEAR IT'S JUST A POINT OF PRINCIPLE FOR ME. I RESPECT MR. SHELBY AND THE WORK HE DOES. HE STILL THINK IT'S TAKE LOW. THAT'S JUST THE WAY. IRA HE EVERYBODY IS MY COMMENTS ON THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WEEK REVISIT IN THE FUTURE. IT'S ALWAYS AN OPEN DISCUSSIO BUT I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT. THAT'S IT FOR ME. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO MOVED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. SECOND FROM MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOUOU. (MEETING ADJOURNED)