Where are you? Good evening, guys. I'm Scott Blow. I'll be uh serving as chairman of the commission tonight. This is a planning and zoning commission meeting for January 8th, 2026. The agenda for today's meeting is available on the table outside. If you did not get one, you may wish to pick one up. We'll call the cases in the order they are listed on the agenda. The first matter of business is citizens comments. Any citizen wishing to appear before the regular comm regular meeting of the planning and zoning commission regarding any matter posted on the agenda was to sign up no later than 6 p.m. on the day of the meeting. If anyone signed up, they'll have three minutes to [snorts] speak. Staff will time each citizen and provide a warning when they have 30 seconds left. I've got several forms that were there any there anymore? I got them all. Okay. When I call your name, if you'll come up to the podium and give your name, your full name clearly and your address. The first person is uh Dora Cortez. >> Mr. Chairman, I would also ask that individuals state which case they are speaking on. >> Gotcha. And case, please. Thank you. [snorts] >> [clears throat] >> My name is Zora. My name is Dora Cortez and I live at 217 North Avenue O and I am also part of the North and East Lover Coalition. I have questions and concerns regarding zone K3540. But before I ask my question, I would like to take this opportunity opportunity to thank the members of the planning and zoning commission and the city staffers that provided assistance to them. I understand that these boards, agencies, and commissions are on a volunteer basis. So, thank you guys. Residents and of the North and East residents and the northeast level coalition have pressed the city council to consider downzoning plots of land owned by the city leader and urban renewal before anything is built on these lots and I am glad to see that the city finally is taking its small steps towards a goal that we hope does not stop with what we discussed today. Again, thank you for your time. The question on my mind concerns the portion on the map which would be east of University and north of Erskin. The love county appraisal district plot number is R86622 816 University Avenue. My question is was this portion something that was looked at and not considered for downzoning or was it just overlooked? If it was just overlooked, I would hope that in the very near future it will be looked at and reconsidered for downzoning to single family. Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Cortez. Next, we have uh Fabian Mada addressing item number or zoning case 3540. Also, Well, I wanted to speak during the meeting as well to ask questions, but I can speak now. I am I agree with Dora. I'm also a member of the Northeast Coalition. I live on North Avenue M. [clears throat] My main concern is Triple C concrete and permitting basin materials. If y'all are allowing them to continue operations after you reszone residential around that area, that's just a malfeasence. is just goes against everything. It started with segregation and slavery and it's continuing now. When you segregated the people Avenue and then you dumped all the industrial waste there, >> that's horrible. >> And y'all are continuing this. >> We need all that stuff removed from our neighborhoods north and east level. Pico is operating without a permit. 34th and Avenue A. Do you allow businesses to operate without a state and federal permit? I guess you do shut him down. >> Thank you, Mr. Ma. >> Okay, next is next is uh Shelton Liix. I'm sorry, I miss mispronounced it. Uh case number 3016F. Uh, not really [snorts] much of a question, but just more of a statement >> if you could state your name and then address. >> So, Shelton Lola, 6948 102nd Street. >> Thank you. >> Um, so just kind of wanted to give a statement to you guys first. Uh, and I'll also submit it afterwards, but um, I'm here today to pose the zoning case uh, 316-f. I'm a home homeowner right at 6948. Uh when I purchased this home in this community, I relied on the city's zoning map to designate that designated the perimeter of our neighborhood along Upland Avenue for office use. This was this key was uh to my decision to build in into that neighborhood. Uh I'm opposing the change to neighborhood commercial because it's fundamentally alters the character of our neighborhood and entrance and threatens our property values. Right. Um one is uh traffic safety and congestion. Right. My neighborhood relies on 98th and upland to corridors to access to our home. Replacing a low traffic office zone with a hight traffic commercial zone would significantly increase congestion at these intersections. neighborhood commercial brings in high turnover retail traffic that our residential feeder streets would not be able to handle. Number two, it's a violation of the buffer principle. The city's unified development code utilizes office zoning specifically to transition from major streets to neighborhoods. Office zoning ensures activity is limited mostly business hours between 8 and 5 with low noise. Neighborhood commercial introduces evenings and weekend activities, dumpsters, delivery trucks, and bright parking lots. All right. Allowing commercial zoning here removes the protective layer that the city originally promised to our community. Right. So, also it's going to set a negative precedent for number three, right? It's going to create a domino effect. If y'all approve this commercial zoning at this location, it sets the precedence that the entire Upland frontage border of our super subdivision is open for retail development. This effectively surrounds our residential community with commercial in intensity trapping us behind a wall of retail noise and light light pollution rather than a quiet professional office that is currently zoned for. And then also it, you know, going back to uh last year's uh decision, right, in October 2025, the commission, the commission wisely denied a similar request, right, at at a local address as well. So again, we'd like y'all to to, you know, put this to rest and stop letting people trying to build businesses that don't belong there. >> Thank you very much. >> All right. Okay, the last uh the last person on the agenda or last person on the citizens comments is Thomas Westerman regarding 316F. >> Evening council. Uh my name is Thomas Westerman. Uh 6957 101st Street. Um, I'm speaking in opposition to the proposed zoning case 316F from office district to neighborhood commercial district for the property adjacent to the ridge neighborhood. Uh, while I understand the need for thoughtful development, this particular zoning change raises serious concerns. Um, a neighborhood commercial designation will significantly increase traffic through our residential area. Our neighborhood streets are not designed to accommodate commercial traffic patterns, including high volumes of daily trips, delivery vehicles, and customer traffic. In addition, uh 98 street boarding the neighborhood is already difficult to navigate during peak traffic times. Increased commercial traffic would further strain this roadway, creating congestion and increasing the likelihood of accidents for both residents um and other drivers. Safety is a major concern. Our neighborhood pool and green space are located just around the corner on Rochester from the proposed site and are heavily used by families and small children. Increased traffic near these areas pose a real risk to pedestrian safety and undermines [snorts] the familyoriented nature of our community. Finally, um the zoning change is a potential to negatively impact property values um for the rich. The introduction of commercial activity next to this residential area alters the character of the neighborhood and reduce its desiraability for current and future homeowners. Um, with exactly what what Sheldon said, this is part of the the the decision to move to this part of Levik to this specific neighborhood was because of the existing zoning that was in place. Um, for these reasons, I respectfully ask the commission to deny the requested zoning change. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Westman, that was all the people that we had signed up for public comments. If [clears throat] you didn't sign up for citizens comment period, you can still have an opportunity to speak during the public hearing for each case. Next matter of business is the approval of minutes for December 4th, 2025 regular planning and zoning commission meeting. >> Have a motion. >> Move to approve. >> Second. >> Had a motion and a second. Motion and a second. Uh all in favor say I. >> I. I >> all opposed the 8 to zero 7 to zero on their count. [clears throat] >> All right. The next matter of business we have are zone cases. When we call your zone case, the following steps will be taken. Chair first call the the chair will call the first case will invite the city staff to make their presentation on the case. The board [snorts] may ask questions ask the staff questions but board comments and debate should [clears throat] not occur. The chair opens the public hearing on the case. Now I'll call the applicant and representative to provide any additional comments. The applicant will still need to clarify clearly state their name and address for the record and briefly explain their case. After the applicant has spoken, the chair askked anyone in opposition to speak. Those speaking in opposition should give their name and address and then speak to the board. Chair will then ask for anyone [snorts] in favor of the item to speak. Those are speaking in favor of the same uh same uh procedure. This is a public comment period and back not a back and forth discussion of the board. All comments should be addressed to the board. The board may ask questions but we will not [snorts] debate at that time. After the public comments, I'll close the public hearing. Once the public hearing is closed, we won't hear any further comments from the public. Motion's made on the item. Okay. So first zoning case is 3.1 case 3548. [clears throat] >> Good evening. My name is Shane Spencer and this is zone case 3548. The applicant is Hugo Reeden Associates for Texas Solar Works LLC and they're requesting a zone change from Lowdensity Single Family SF2 Auto urban commercial district AC light industrial district LI and industrial park IP to general industrial district GI with a specific use for power generation transmission and distribution. The subject property is located generally south of Municipal Drive and east of Northeast Loop 289. We have sent 185 notices and we've received back 27 in favor and two in an opposition. Here is the notification map. Here is the aerial map. Surrounding the subject property are a mix of commercial properties, residences, and vacant land. Here's a zoning map. Adjacent properties are zoned SF2, LI, IP, and AC. And here's a future land use map. It designates this property for lowdensity residential and commercial land uses. Here are photos of the subject and surrounding property. Here's an exhibit provided by the applicant. as well as another >> pair of exhibits. >> The future land use map designates this area for both commercial and lowdensity residential land uses. Although this proposed zone change in specific use is not fully consistent with this designation. It would be appropriate considering the nearby existing nearby zoning districts and land uses. So therefore, this request would be in moderate conformance with the comprehensive plan principles. The proposed zone change of specific use is in conformance with the zoning ordinance and is compatible with surrounding area would not change the character of the existing development. The location is along North County Road 2800 Redwood Avenue, North Malberry Avenue, East Dartmouth Street, North Keel Avenue, and Elder Avenue which are designated as local streets according to the massive thorougher plan 2018. is additionally located along East Erskin Street, East Urselin Street and North Guava Avenue, which are designated as collectors, along with East Municipal Drive, which is a minor arterial, and Idoloo Road and Northeast Loop 289, which are both designated as freeways. Staff has no objections to this request, and I'd be pleased to answer any questions you may have at this time. >> Questions? >> Quick question. Uh, you said there was 27 letters of support and one in opposition. Was that correct? >> Uh, there were two. I think we may have had we're at two right now. >> Two what? >> Two in opposition. >> Two in opposition and how many in favor? >> 27. >> I know there was 27. Do you have a rough idea of how many of those are within the notification area? >> Uh, they were all within the notification area. I don't believe we've received any letters from outside the notification area, though. I believe there's several entities uh and owners who have uh I think the owner has responded obviously but uh quite a few of those parcels are one owner. >> Thank you. >> All right. Thanks. Is the applicant for representative Mr. Holman? Good evening members of the commission. Chairman, I'm Terry Hullman with Ego Reading Associates. We're at 1601 Avenue in. Um I'm speaking this evening on behalf of um Texas Solar Works LLC. Uh it's controlled by a gentleman named Mark Calvano. Uh Mark sends his regrets. He got a stomach bug and wasn't able to catch his flight here tonight. He really wanted to be here to help tell his story. I will explain the case as best as I can. I'll pinch it for him as best as I can and hopefully um explain to you as well as we can as to what the project is. Mark is a real estate developer operating in San Francisco Bay area. Has been doing real estate development for about 35 years. Uh he's done many commercial properties, the largest of which was 130,000 square foot office building in the San Francisco area that he leased to Google and later sold for $180 million. So, we're dealing with a gentleman who's um got got credentials uh here in West Texas. He currently has three other facilities similar to this under development. A 40 acre uh development in Walksahhatchee, a 410 acre development in Witchaw Falls, and then a 900 acre facility uh down around the Snyder area. Uh this location in Lachure is next for him. um he had an opportunity to to take a look at this property and decided to move forward. And I'll speak more on that later on. This evening, I'm going to speak a little bit about just the mechanics of the zoning, which is what you're used to hearing me speak about most of the time. I'm also going to speak as best as I can on behalf of Mark for his project and explain what the project is. Um we are asking for general industrial specific use for power generation. The reason we're asking for general industrial is this project is a proposed data center. It's the cloud. It's uh processing of large amounts of internet data uh which requires large amounts of power uh and so forth. And so we need specific use because we need to have onsite solar power generation to supplement the power that we pull off of the grid and maybe off of natural gas service. So that's why we're here for general industrial specific uses is for the project specifically. I don't know. I hope that all of you took uh about an hour of your time. It's about how much time it takes to drive around the property. I did uh earlier this week and uh it was kind of eye opening for me. This location I I I think the aerial photo can be a little deceiving. Um, when you drive the property, you get a true sense of scale of of how large and how primarily isolated this property is. Um, we do have a couple of small pockets of residential area to the south of us. Uh, both of them nicely maintained, I might add. Um, but the bulk of the property is bordered by nothing or other industrial development. And so I think this te's up very nicely for a project of this of this style. And I will tell you that um this is a new personal best for me. I this is the largest land area that I've ever come to you for a zone case before. So I can lay claim to that. the overall boundary. I'm going to give you some sort of fun facts uh just on the uh just the property itself to maybe kind of shed some light on what we think makes sense for us on this property. >> The black the black boundary is our is our property. It's about 936 acres. The perimeter on that is 47,000 square ft. It's almost nine miles around the perimeter of this thing. Now, there's a lot of ins and outs which kind of compound that. Of that, almost nine miles, almost 50% of that is already a budding either industrially zoned property or commercially zoned property or maybe even residentially zoned property, but is used commercially. So, don't let the map fool you that we're we really are nestled in a lot more of non-residential than than you might think. Um, and then of that linear footage, uh, 9% of that, roughly 4,300 is Loop 289. And I look at Loop 289 as as sort of being a a natural buffer for us anyway because it's a four-lane divided highway. Even though there's a small pocket of residential on the opposite side, the loop in in and of itself acts as a great buffer for us for a heavier than residential zoning. The existing zoning, as [snorts] you can see here, uh is prim it admittedly is primarily today residential. About 95% of the property is residential. About uh 5% is 60 60 acres is the gray industrial over on the far west side. [snorts] The comprehensive plan lays out a lot of this area as commercial. Uh I like the comp plan here because I I think it it's a fair thing to say that we can play off of the industrial uh property which is to the north of us. I think this could be a sort of a natural extension of that industrial area from the north down to the south. in that comprehensive plan, the the commercial area in there already accounts for about 38% with our within our black boundary already accounts for about 38% of our land area. So, we're already pushing towards non-residential for this property. And so what we're asking you to consider is allow us to go ahead and take the full 936 acres and let's put it into industrial because we have a specific project in use for this and it's a project I'm going to talk to in more detail now. Oh before I do so I do want to talk about the opposition. I I forgot about that. Yes, there were two letters of opposition. Um one was from a Mr. Damron. Um he is, if you can see my arrow here, he is >> [clears throat] >> uh nestled right down in here, just on the opposite side of the highway from us. We're up here. Uh he's on the opposite side of the road. [snorts] Uh my client Mark uh had a good discussion with him about a week ago and we got him to change his position and only about two hours ago did we receive an email from him affirming that. So, uh, we'll forward I forwarded that to the planning department, but I'm sure they didn't get it in time to get it to you tonight. So, I can tell you with confidence that we did get, um, uh, a retraction on that one letter of opposition. The other one uh, is a gentleman who has has a residence in this. So, this there's a tiny little pocket of area right here, which is got one residence in it. Uh, and there's some other uh, you know, some smaller structures there. He's located right there. His last name was Mr. Garza. I have to admit that I did not get a chance to catch up with him. Uh I I think Mark was going to try to and then he uh fell ill and wasn't able to make the call. So I have to admit to you that we weren't able to communicate with Mr. Garza. Um happy to do so moving forward if we need to. The project itself, I'm going to speak a little bit about what this is. It's 936 acres. Um, and this is the area that is under contract with that's inside the city limits. Uh, there's also another 500 acres that you don't care about uh because it's outside the city limits. And so this is um this is a a large a very large project and has the potential to bring a lot of economic impact to the city. Uh this will be a major hypers scale data center. uh what happens on these data centers is they're they're developed and built and endusers people that such as Google or you know the AI people they they lease this or they purchase this uh space and it it becomes where they do their data storage and data processing. One neat little trivia that I've learned through this process is uh Google today in one minute uploads 4,000 hours of video. Think about that. 4,000 hours of video in one minute that Google uploads. [clears throat] And so the need for the highest tech facilities um across the country is becoming more and more pervasive. Um these data centers uh require quite a bit of power. There's no doubt. And so what we'll be able to do, we've got a large gas transmission line that comes through the property. Uh we'll be able to tap into the power grid, but we're we can't just take all the power off of the grid. We've got to have really three sources of power for us. What one is the the grid electric, another is uh what's called behind the meter gas power uh which is becoming a more popular thing for these data centers. And thirdly, which is the reason we need the specific U zone case, which is on-site solar in support of our our project. So the idea is not to build a solar farm to go sell it to somebody else. We need that for ourselves. And so that's that's what predicated the need for the zone case. Um this facility will be the latest and the greatest. It will be use the latest chip and chip cooling technology. And the reason I talk about cooling technology is that's another thing that is sort of a misnomer about some data centers that they're large consumers of water. [snorts] Older generations did in fact consume a lot of water. [clears throat] The newer versions have a closed cooling system and so there's a one-time high water demand at startup. After that it's a closed system and after that initial startup the [snorts] uh the data centers use very little water. Um, it's it's all self-contained. It's recirculating. So, I think that's a great thing. It's it's it's just smart in the way they operate. Um, there are also new technologies to make these facilities run quieter than what you may have thought of in times past. Um, they're just getting better and better as the days go by. And what that means for us is there's less human activity, which means less impact on traffic systems and less impact on infrastructure. Uh, there's they're quieter. uh they're just becoming more and more benign uh and and they become invisible almost uh because they're just they're low activity, low noise, low impact. Um yes, they're large structures. Yes, they absorb a lot of land area, but there's not a whole lot going on in terms of activity at these places and and we want to emphasize that. We need your help this evening with our zoning. Uh for us, this is the first step in a very long list of things that we have to go through to get this project to happen. Um if you and ultimately city council approved zoning, we then have to go through environmental site assessments, feasibility studies, mineral rights, utility capacity studies, comprehensive site planning, geotech, wetlands, endangered species, civil engineering, and then ultimately platting and permitting. So, the reason I'm telling you all that is because I want the public to understand that this is just the first of many steps. And if we're successful, um this is not going to be next week. Um this is a this is a long-term project we're in for the long haul, but we think it's a great tremendous long-term benefit for the entire city. Uh primarily because of the economic impact. As I said before, there there's very little human activity. Uh once construction is complete um it it becomes a very low impact um part of the part of the landscape. Uh it is a very large capital investment. Um and it it does create a very good economic impact for the city. Uh we look at as at we look at it as being a benefit for both the city as a whole and also uh council districts one and two. Um there will be uh certainly job opportunities during construction and certainly job opportunities afterwards. So I would like to turn it over to John Osborne with LITA. He can speak much more intelligently on on even this project and the economic side of things than I can and certainly I'll be happy to answer any questions after he speaks. Thank you. >> Good evening. Thanks so much for uh hearing all this and having us here today. John Osborne, president, CEO of the Lebec Economic Development Alliance, 1500 Broadway Sweet 600. Uh we are working with a number of uh large data centers projects right now um all that are looking at um areas that are all over the city. We're very much in support of this project and this zoning case. Um, we've been working very closely with the current land owner um to uh uh get dedicated Ursland uh street so that we can bring a water line over there to East Lov that will actually enable um some additional water and um stabilities over in far east. Uh we uh we we believe that uh this land will be developed um very similarly to many of the other hypers scale data center projects that have been located in other parts of the United States including Texas where the significant amount of land that's needed also is used as a buffer for the remaining areas around it. And so as they begin to develop their site plan and all, there will be a significant buffer that goes around that edge, um the the data center companies want that buffer to be in place. They don't want to be a problem to their neighbors, but they also don't want neighbors to be coming onto the to the site or have quick access on there. So that's one reason why um the so much land area is looked at as well. I'm happy to address any questions not only about this project, but also about data centers in general. This happens to be a developer and there's kind of three different types of projects that we work um with with these data center projects. Some are with directly with the end user, a Google or a meta or whoever. Others are with data center developers who then sell or uh their property to an end user. And then the third is a data center developer who then um leases the racks that are inside to uh end users. And um we believe this uh developer has the capability to pull through with what um he's stated to us and um ultimately is working with uh quite a few large uh end users. But those end users will not pull the trigger on um saying yes to a particular project until all those uh um assets are in place including the zoning, the utilities, the uh the understanding of the amount of power that's available and so forth. >> Questions? Uh my main question is about the cooling. Um I know there's another data center in the general area here and when they were asking for zoning the main reason it failed the first time is because they were going to use aquafers to cool their data centers and it kept failing until they agreed to cool it with ACs basically. >> Yes. >> Um now Terry is saying that does not take a lot of water. Is that water to cool it coming from aquafers and wells in this case or is it coming through the city through a meter that they'll pay for? >> Yeah. And let me clarify it. It it takes quite a bit of water initially, but then it becomes a closed loop system. That closed loop system goes to each individual circuit and cools that way and then it comes back out of kind of the main uh data center area and then comes back into a different part of the building where it releases that heat and gets cooled again and then goes back in to cool those chips. So there is some significant water initially but then ultimately it's a closed loop system where you you have minimal loss uh at all. Um one of the things that we've um uh we work very closely with city staff on um our data center projects uh we just um turned down two uh data center users. One that was going to use 4 million gallons of water a day and the other one that was going to use 9 million gallons of water a day. we because we know that that's not responsible development for our area and for for this community. It's not what we want right now. Um so we have been very adamant with all data center developers and end users that we're working with um that it needs to be this kind of closed loop system that uses a minimal amount of water on an annual basis um ongoing basis. And so um the way that they're they'll design this system is uh such that it will um use city water. Um, one reason we want this land um to be inside or the the projects that we work, we want them to be inside the city limits is so that they can get access to the city water because we don't want them pulling from the uh from the aquifer. And then finally uh uh any of the the projects that we work uh whether it's a data center or or you know a manufacturer or somebody that is using a significant amount of water um at all but also has a significant investment. We lay out for them uh very closely that that the aquifer is a finite amount of water and you're not going to want to spend billions of dollars and input investment on um you know on the above ground part to only run out of one of the your main sources of of need. So in this particular case while technically they could probably use uh some water from the aquafer our intentions are to not go forward with that uh aspect. it would be much more for um for city to to be supplied by the city. And the fact that it's in the city allows for uh that to take place. >> And what about the other portion that's in the county? >> Uh the portion that's in the county won't be data centered. From what I've been told by the developer, that will be an area that will have the solar field. Solar field doesn't use the water. So yeah. >> Okay. So [clears throat] on that note, the solar field, is that entirely in the county or is the solar field also going to be partially within the city in this area we're talking about here? And just roughly round numbers, how much acreage do you think that solar field will take up? >> Uh I I don't know. And I don't know that he knows yet. Uh and part of that's because the one of the main aspects next that actually Terry [clears throat] didn't even mention is an electric study. And so how much power can be generated there? And so they'll lay out um different scenarios that will have their solar and then any gas um um turbine u production uh as well as anything that can be taken off the grid to see here's how much power can be had. So therefore, what size building can you uh build and and um and so from that aspect what um I think they'll they'll be looking at um can how much of this land needs to be solar, how much of it needs to be buffer, and then how much of it needs to be an actual building. Um the uh if you look at some of the images of one of the more recent um data centers that's been developed down in Temple, uh Meta just announced a big project, a couple of big projects down that direction. And some of the renderings are literally millions of square feet of um data center space. And um and so, you know, while that doesn't take up all that land area, there'll there'll still be enough area for some of that solar production to take place. Um there'll still be massive buildings that are going to be um out there more likely in the middle section of the of the land. >> I can add to that a little bit. The objective here is to um you know build this facility totally in the city limits and so we've got the the area outside the city to expand solar should the need arise. But I think the objective here is to focus on finding a spot more or less in the middle of this property somewhere. And you're gonna want they're going to want their solar fields next to their facility to start with. And so, uh, maybe phase one, two, three, that that type of setting. >> Thank you. >> Any other questions? >> All right. [clears throat] Thank you. >> Thank you all so much. >> Okay. Is there anyone that wants to speak in opposition to this zone? Come forward. State your name and your address. >> Yeah. Well, I realized it's in Northeast Lev. Hello, my name is Fabian. I live in North Lok. >> No, I need your specific address. >> Uh 211 North Avenue like Mary. >> Okay. >> 7941. >> I just found out Northeast Lock. All within the city limits. >> Sure. >> Gas turbines, pollution, noise. >> No. Absolutely not. You're going against what I came to fight. You're adding another one. Why Northeast Le? >> Yes. Yes. >> Huh? Why Northeast? >> You're adding more pollution. It should be declined denied. And I have a proposal. I will tell you all about what we need to do to get rid of the country class. [clears throat] The 1971 1972 city ordinance after the tornado hit. They passed an ordinance green around the canyon. Okay. from Earth Street to the canyon, both sides of the canyon, where triple C concrete is now and where permanent basin materials concrete is one of the most polluting industries, >> concrete, particulate matter. It kills fish in the water that we're going to use in the canyon lakes. Really people? And then the take TCQ you you guys said heavily rely on state regulations. I've researched TCQ for a year. wholly inadequate and they know they are. I've caught them. I investigated the investigators. >> Yes. >> And city ordinance. Yeah. Peran basin material right now. I filed [clears throat] a complaint. They built BMS, mounds of dirt to keep the concrete powder in instead of a 12oot fence which is kind of required, wanted Berm is adequate. It's covered with concrete particulate matter. I found a city complaint. They went out there recently. Mr. Heino, assistant manager, help me come back and [clears throat] and it's all over the curb. It's on Avenue K. They recommended instead of telling them, hey, we're we're you're violating an ordinance. You're polluting the city streets, Avenue K. Fix it. You have certain days or you'll be fine. Oh, no. We suggest a fence here. Yeah. That's how heavy you guys regulate the environment in North and East Lab. And you shouldn't allow this mess. He he's not even unsure how it's going to be operated. What ter? They're not even sure if they're getting water from where. They're completely uncertain about everything. It should not be allowed. Absolutely not. I've gotten the EPA involved with PICO and I just barely started getting it. They can prevent Texas Commission of the Environmental Equality from allowing to give permits. They can also stop the city from allowing to give permits. Federal government, EPA, oversees everything. That's all I have for now. >> [applause] >> Hey, >> I totally agree with the gentleman here cuz I live right across the street. My name's Alex Kenton. I live on 3910 Luton Highway. >> Perfect. >> So, I'm right across the street from what they're wanting to build out there. I'm totally against what they're wanting to do >> because it's like the gentleman's hair saying that it's not going to be loud. But then again, for sure, I don't think I'm ready to listen to all this humming all damn day, all night, and it's just not right. Uh we we live off of the wells, water well. And I'm pretty sure that when he said there'll be little water, how much is that little water? >> The cheese factory back there in the back of our house said that they would take water. How many hundreds of gallons of water are they not taking from down below us? Why don't they take that and build it back where the town's growing >> that way? I mean, if you look on I27 this way towards the east side, it's all buildings warehouses and crappy stuff. >> Why don't they build us something nice? No, they want to take that over there because they got the rich folks over there saying, "Oh, no, no. They listen to them. Are they going to listen to us?" >> I mean, am I right? >> There you go. >> Thank you. >> Jessica Sanchez, 4210 East Municipal Drive. that road right on the top and right now where I live is in the country and my question I have quite a few. What is the impact of the solar project on the environment, our water, our land, our wildlife? Right now we have wild turkeys, deer, lots of things that we want to keep. Um, so we're already having issues with water in our wells. So again, what impact will that have further on our water? Another question with 936 acres, how many solar panels are we looking at and what effect of radiation, heat is that going to have on those of us who live there? and in the surrounding areas. Um, again, if the zoning um is changed and goes into effect, I know they want it zoned for this project, but what effect does that have in the future? If it's then changed to industrial, what else is coming in? And I object. >> Thank you. Yes ma'am. >> Hi Phyllis Gad Gambles 7701 Avenue J Love Texas 79423 and that is district 2. This is specifically kind of district 1. But at the end of the day it's all north and east love. No matter what we're told, once this thing starts happening, it becomes whatever. The gentleman, even maybe the only honest thing that I heard said, "We'll sell some off. We'll hand some off." Which means we have no idea if you guys pass this what will actually be over there. As a luk citizen born and raised in love, I watched people die from industrial pollution. We've already watched that. In your own uh document here, it says single family district. To me, that should put this to rest. There's families over there. Whether there's one or 10, there's homes. It's a residential area. There's families. I would also be interested to know if they sent out over a hundred [clears throat] letters but they only had less than 30 people respond where were those letters mailed to. This is love. This is love. I've been around a long time. If it's conducive to making money, nice residents, nice restaurants, nice homes, it's West Lok. If it's dumping and it's pollution, it's north and east love. So, we are adamantly against it, adamantly ready and prepared to take whatever steps we need to as community residents. >> All right. Thank you. [applause] [clears throat] >> Good evening. My name is Brandy Williams. I'm a resident of East Lev 3305 East Baylor. I'm here tonight because the proposed zoning changes um changes continue a pattern that has shaped our community for generations. The industrial zoning that is already in place and the additional industrial zoning being proposed. This does not make a wonder this is this is not a wonderful idea at all. It continues a cycle that has never benefited the people who actually live there. Before I go further, I want to speak directly about Jim Crow, what those laws were and why they matter in a zoning discussion today. Jim Crow laws were were designed to segregate minorities, especially black communities, by controlling where people could live, work, and own property. These laws place minority neighborhoods in areas with fewer protections, fewer resources, and fewer opportunities. Even though those laws are no longer written on paper, their impact continues through modern policies that separate communities by race and income. Zoning is one of the clear examples of this legacy. When I refer to Jim Crow, I'm talking about the ongoing segregation of minorities through zoning decisions that place industrial use directly next to our homes. These decisions continue to affect our environment, our health, and our long-term sustainability. This is an environmental justice issue because the burdens of pollution, truck traffic, and industrial activities are not shared equally across the city. [snorts] Environmental [clears throat] justice means that no community, especially communities of color, should bear should bear or share environmental harms. Yet, North and East love has carried the burden for decades. This is not accidental. This is the result of the policy. These zoning patterns limit development, suppress home values, and make it harder for family to build stable and generational wealth. Other parts of Leuk are given the opportunity to grow, attract new development, and thrive. East and North Lev, they deserve the same. I'm not a against the growth of businesses, but growth should not come at the expense of the community over and over again. We deserve clean air, safe streets, and the chance to build a healthy and uh excuse me, and a chance to build a healthy future. It's offensive to continue subjecting current residents and future generations to zoning to [clears throat] zoning patterns rooted in segregation and environmental harm. Thank you. I am also speaking today on behalf of Natly Miller. She could not make it. She's the executive director of North and East Le Coalition. I respectfully request that this statement be included in the official record. Natley says, "I want to address the zoning case affecting East Le. When we look at the propo proposed zoning maps, it is clear that East Lot continues to be designated for large areas of industrial, light industrial, and heavy commercial use, often directly next to long established residential neighborhoods. These appear as large continuous blocks of industrial zoning especially east of um loop 289 and along the east fourth street courier curer where there are few areas where the proposed zoning shows improvement. These small adjustments do not outweigh the burden impacted impact of continuing the same industrial patterns that have burdened east and north love for decades. For generations, East Lockach has absorbed um a disproportionated share of industrial land use. These decisions have brought increased traffic, environmental impacts, and long-term um disinvestments. They have also shaped how banks, developers, and investors view the area. This limits the the residential growth, discouraging mixeduse development, and suppressing property values. Zoning is not just the map. It determines whether neighborhoods can attract investments, build home equity, and support generational wealth. When zoning discourages long-term residential investment, the resulting stagnation is not the fault of the residents. It is the result of the policy choices. What we oppose is growth that concentrates direct that concentrates negative impact. in one of in one part of the city without enforceable protection or meaningful community benefits. If this dawning proposed is truly intended to support East Lock, it must include clear measures, residential buffering, truck route plannings and enforcement, transitional zoning that allows for mixeduse and residential growth, and planning decisions that invite long-term investments rather than deteriorate. As it stands, this proposal long largely maintains the same patterns that have limited opportunities in East Le for generations. We respectfully request that the city pause, revise, and strengthen this proposal so that East Lock can finally be positioned for health, sustainabil sustainability, and development. Thank you for your time. That's from Natalie. I also wanted to add I'm a current student at Whan Baptist University. I'm pursuing my bachelor's degree in environmental studies with a minor in justice administration. It's a proven fact that the industrial zoning is affecting the environment and the health. The people who want to build continue building the industrial buildings and companies, they don't live on on the east side of Lev. They don't live on the north side of Le. They don't have any family over there. Not saying that they should move over there, but move the industrial building, uh, the zoning, move it over there then, because to continuously do it in East and North Lock, like what is that saying to the community? If you guys approve this, what is what are y'all saying to us? Like, just like you do not care, you know, and it's a spit in the face to us. It's um it's just further degrading than I don't want to just be like speak about the history and the history but if you don't speak about history it will repeat itself like it has to stop what better time than today. My child, he has um asthma, very bad asthma. And his um his pediatrician said, "Is it a a bad environ um the is the the environmental uh the is there any environmental factors that you think that may be affecting this?" Because during the summertime, he wasn't um during the summer he went to Dallas. He didn't have he was not hospitalized. He didn't have to continuously take breathing treatments. As soon as um we come as soon as he came back to love and school started, he goes to Autis Elementary. There it is. He's back in the hospital. It's it's it's terrible. And it's not like I feel it's not like you guys don't know. >> They do, >> you know, and to continuously let them go there and and build and just add on and add on and add on like stop adding to the problem and try to fix it. >> It's it's not I mean it's just it's it's not right. And because it's that you know they throw it's the zoning over there is industrial. So you know we should be able to build over there. know cuz the zoning over there shouldn't even it shouldn't be industrial to begin with. So let's fix that you know and if you we haven't fixed that. So to continue to add these, let these companies continue to just grow because for them like they said it's capital, capital, but for us like it's it's our health. It's also our money because property value was going down and everything. We're not making any and it's it's not fair. So thank you. Thank you. >> [applause] >> Hello, my name is Rosa Manahan and I'm um opposed to it and my address is 3920 out of the road and I also own property at 512 North Naidder. I have livestock out in this area and I want to know how is this going to affect my lifestyle because we have a whale on one property and then we have city water on the other and I'm concerned about my animals as well as my own family's life. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. [applause] Dora Cortez, 217 North Avenue O. I am also uh part of the North and East Lava Coalition and I am against this um zone case and as uh I want to mention uh as Mrs. Uh Williams mentioned about the job opportunities. Uh we always get uh a negative feedback that we are not for job opportunities and that's not true. >> But we do not have those job opportunities afforded to us that we would like in our neighborhoods. It's all industrial. Yes, we're going to be able to hire people to work in those in that industry, but that industry is in our backyards. And so I am against it and I think also that more information is needed on this zone case than what uh we're hearing right now because apparently there are some issues with the water and I think that more information is needed uh for the public. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else in opposition? My name is Juan Mia. I uh am at 3922 road and I oppose of it. >> Thank you. >> Okay, sir. >> Good afternoon. My name is Milton Lee. Uh my address is 918 East Tolane Street right in the part of this area. Uh I am the president of the Lok NAACP and I'm here to represent a lot of people who are not pleased with the way uh Love leadership is handling the planning and zoning since their 2040 plan was passed. We fought hard and talked a lot about turning uh east and northeast love into a industrial uh zoning area. We already had the industrial part. I've been living here for over 70 years. And where I live now, when I first moved there, they said it was going to be a a a pipeline to the airport. there was going to be uh hotels and commercial buildings and residential all around it. And over the years, beginning in around the the late 70s and the early 80s, the shift started to to take place. First was the industrial part. And the the idea was that would bring more uh revenue and resources to North and East L. It didn't do it. Those resources go to South and Southwest level because the people who coming over to live are being to work are driving back across town because there's no commercial uh areas to spend money on the north and east side. Over the years, there have been plans made to build uh estates, residential areas, and they have been built, but they haven't been built on north and northeast love. the stakeholders who are usually the real estate people and only planning and zoning commission have decided in the past years to bypass North and East L keep it uh with uh certain areas that are just just terrible. They are contaminated. They have all types of uh uh air pollution, water pollution and everything else. But they have kept on deciding to continue to build certain type of structures on that part of town. There's not that many people on the north and northeast part of town. A lot of residents have been built. They're still being built and they are moving some of the people that would have been living in north and northeast love in those areas because they got them section 8. >> Yes, sir. >> That's what they got. Section 8 and the and the buildings that they are building on that part of town are built more stable than the buildings that they are building and houses there that they are building on the north and northeast side. This haven't been unnoticed. No, >> it just haven't been talked about enough by the community in the north and northeast part of town. >> But we're tired of this. >> We're tired of it. I fought hard to try to get some priority and equality during our last 2040 plan. It'll be another This is 2026. We got another 14 years before it come up again. By that time everything had be done been pushed to west, northwest, southwest and south low. >> Yes. >> That has anything of value with them. No resources will come to north and northeast love from this industrial uh building that you want to put in that area. the city will take that money and put it back on the west side of town. >> They're doing it now and they're going to continue to do it. We are not receiving any resources or funds from the industrial port. You can see we got some uh fantastic buildings out there. And far as uh job opportunities, >> there's there's [clears throat] not that many job opportunities. The population uh in the east and northeast part of town is so low, but the people are still not getting jobs. >> The jobs are going across town. And my I guess it's really not my bright to you, it's my plea. We need to stop being segregated. And if we plan on being integrated, let's do it with parity, equality, and not the way it's being done now because it is more like an imperialism where you come over and you take from the east side to do what you want to do with that [snorts] >> and don't even give us the crimes. So, as president of the Love NAACP, I went to quite a few meetings during the time when we had the beginning of the 2040 plan around 2017, 2018. Here it is, 2026. And we still going through the same thing. Yes, sir. >> The same thing. But I don't know, and I have to check it out. He may have the power to just go and take somebody's residential land and [clears throat] put some industrial next to it and say you put up with it. But I'm going to see. I'm going to see. And I ask you to really think about this. Really think about it. When you talk about that much solar and it's being inside this city limit, it's going to be some problems. I don't know what they are right now, but I'm pretty sure in some areas they know. >> They know. And I don't know if you have done all the research. There was something that they had mentioned about something just went had got out about two hours ago that you hadn't seen. You need to be be able to look at everything [clears throat] >> and make sure that you are really getting this community involved. I don't see anybody on this this planning zone uh committee that probably live on the east part of town. It may be somebody. >> It may be somebody, >> but I tell you what, it is just important over there as it is across town. >> All right. And so I'm speaking not only for myself, but I am speaking for a lot of people when I say the NAACP. >> Yes. >> And that's just locally now. But if you want to turn it into state and national, we can do that, too. Yes, sir. >> And so I thank you for your time. >> ABSOLUTELY. [applause] [clears throat] >> Anyone else want to speak in opposition to this case? >> I left something out. >> Sure. >> Do I need to say my name again? Brandy Williams, 3305 East Baylor. I wanted to add when the gentleman was talking about the um the Google search and the AI, all the benefits that the company will bring. It sounds like the same thing that Elon Musk is doing in Memphis. And this is where they're using a lot of electricity. They're using a lot of gas. Um Elon Musk has the largest supercomputer globally in Memphis and you know that's predominantly black. >> It's um I was floored when because I did not um I didn't know that this is what was being proposed that this is what it was used for. And you know he said it's being done over here. It's being done over here. This is this is not a wonderful idea because they're doing it over here and over here to come and do it right here in love in another minority neighborhood. It It's a bad idea. It's not a wonderful idea. You know, um when they talk about it, you know, they talk fast and they're so excited to to do this. and the um guy who want um who's the um owner of the land he or who wants to put the um excuse me, I'm sorry. I'm just I'm all over the place. This I I I can't I I can't believe that this is really even being proposed that they're asking to do this. This this is unbelievable. Um but he's from California. He couldn't come here and talk about it because he's sick. We're sick. We're sick and tired of it. And you want to come from California and do it right here in East and North love for a capital gang. Like that's that's not okay. And you know, he says um they said it's not a lot of um residents over there and it's not um it's nine miles away from um the residential area. We would like to build more residential areas. You continue building these industrial companies here. We we can't we can't build we can't grow, but they're growing their companies. >> Their capital is growing. um the gentleman who was just here when he said we have nowhere to spend the money in East Le. I saw a post on um East Side Unity that said in East Lock we have a [snorts] Dollar Tree, two dollar uh two Family Dollars, two dollar stores, and a Goodwill. Like what does that say? But what does that say? We have Goodwills, Dollar Tree, Dollar Stores. That's it. It's saying you're poor. You're poor. It's uh It's disgusting. I mean, it says you're poor. We have I'm going to say it again. We have good a Goodwill, two dollar stores, two Family Dollars, and a Dollar Tree. And then but you want and you want to put your your multi-million dollar companies over here and pollute the air and kill the people because that's what it's doing. We are the biggest threat to the to the ecosystem. We are. And nobody's going to fix it but us. And like I said, this I feel like this is something that you y'all y'all know, you know, like I mean it's, you know, it doesn't take rocket science to figure it out. >> Okay, that's it. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Yes, ma'am. >> I'm probably going to be the last one, but my name is Elma I live at 2420 East 30th Street and I'm against it, but I would always be against it because anything that's harmful to East Loving, I'm going to always be against it. And I don't care how many jobs that they you all or they or whoever says it's not. And you all know it is not that every time they say there's jobs going to be for some project, who's working those jobs? I like to know, too. But when I stand here and look at you all's faces, hate to say it makes me sick. If this is the committee and you all have let something that you know is wrong to come to East Lover and you know it's harmful because you didn't want it in your backyard. Every every time I turn around there's not every little nasty thing goes in East Lick. East Lick is the only place you all can think to put anything. You got Hub. It look like there's some land over that way. Could nobody build over there? But you all probably didn't go really to look over at East Lover, did you? You just say, "Oh, well, y'all want to build over at East Lover? Hey, come on over here. You can build over." They got a lot of land over there and smother those residents out. It's just a few residents over there. It's one or two residents. We'll put up something for them. But if you didn't go over there and really look and try to say, "Would I like my children over there? Would I like?" You wouldn't. You wouldn't. And like they said, everybody have said all the right things. We can't grow for all the industrials choking everything out. If they're not choking us out, they're choking up their animals. They're choking up the grass. I guess all that'll be left over there is the paradog. They seem to be multiplying real well over there. I just wonder how you all live sleep at night when you know you have done it wrong. I mean I don't think y'all getting a million dollars. And if you are then you need to share it with me for sure because I could get out of these lovers since y'all are killing us. I could probably move over there next to some of y'all if you give me some of the money that you're making because you must be making a lot of money to always stick it over there. >> I I just wanted you all to hear my voice and know that I am against it and I'm going to always be against it because it's not right. You all say you're looking, you're this and that, but it's all over there. But what you all really need to do, this is a suggestion, buy us all out over there and put us in one of those houses on 114th Street and we'll be happy. And not only that, you have to give us the extra money to pay the darn taxes. Now, I mean, you know, that's kind of fair to me since you're going to choke us out anyway. When I first started going to the community meetings, there was um um a paper, I can't think of the real name, and it was shown to me in 1965, I think. Put those people over here. Put them on the east side. Choke their asses out cuz they don't mean nothing. Now, I know some of you may not have seen that, but some of you have. Some of you look like you have. So, is that what we're doing? We're still just making it small for us because we're black. Some of us are brown, a few cream. >> Okay, ma'am. We need to move on. Well, I'm just saying you all should be ashamed >> to have such a committee and not actually do your job in trying to protect all the citizens here in L. >> All right. Thank you. >> For your kind. >> Yeah. Equally. Oh, that's a bad word, though. >> Okay. Anyone else in opposition? Okay. [applause] >> Hi, everyone. Uh my name is Danu and I live at 3910 out of the road. Um so I don't understand I don't know. I've heard about solar panels and the data centers but I don't really know really what it's about and how it would affect I mean how it's going to affect us. I mean uh I know like the gentleman said about I guess bringing in money. I'm not for sure like I said with the solar panels how many pe how many people it's going to take to do the solar panels. watch over. I don't know much about like what it takes the electricity. I know that as we struggle to pay a light bill. So, does that mean that the light bill is going to go higher? I don't understand that. Sometimes we don't know really what's uh the the real root of it is. We don't know. I mean, I've heard about it and I've heard people talk about these uh these uh solar panels like the water. I've heard that Lok has uh water problems. I mean uh we have a water problem with uh like on the south side. My husband does irrigation. Uh he's talked about that in some parts that that there's no water. Okay. So I don't know how it would affect our water over here. I don't know. So, I really hope that as the council the y'all please take took into uh take into consideration how it's going to affect us the north and the and the east luck. I mean, I know y'all live over there. Maybe it doesn't bother y'all, but we have a home over here. We This is our home. We don't have the money to go buy another home. We don't have the money. We struggle like a lot of people. Maybe y'all do struggle. Maybe y'all don't. But I really do pray that y'all really take this into consideration that this is going to affect our community. Even though it might not be a big house, but it's our home and it's our we have our family there. We have animals and um I just pray that too that you just please please please uh I love Lukak. lived here my whole life and uh I never really been into one of these councils so I don't know really what it's about but uh you know like I know it's maybe it's about the money you know but I don't understand uh [clears throat] like who is profiting off of this it's not going to be us you know and um I just really hope that y'all pray and really um know what y'all doing you know and I but I do not want this to come to love. Thank you and God bless. >> Thank you. Is there anyone else need to speak in opposition to this? All right. Uh anybody want to speak in favor of this project? Okay. So, we'll close the public hearing and uh ask to make a motion. >> Motion to approve for um discussion. >> I got a motion and a second. >> So, I just want a to address that I do live in district 1 and that um Renee Cage is also one of our board members and lives in district two. So, we do represent our neighborhoods. Um, I will [snorts] start, you know, with this of of why we absolutely desperately need to grow in love and I have the utmost respect for Lita. I I do agree um because it is my home that there a lot of research has to be done before we put any more industrial into district one and district two. So, with that, my vote is no. >> Okay. >> [applause] >> I I just have a few questions if we can I still talk with Mr. Holman. >> Okay. Um >> we talked about the traffic being a a problem during the construction phase. Do we know how long that construction phase is? >> Yeah. Go ahead, police. >> I I didn't think that traffic was a problem. I was just going to say that that's the only time that there would be that that much activity on the property. A project of this scale in size, I suspect it would be an 18-month build. Maybe 24 months, something like that. >> And is it is it all an above ground? >> Yes. >> Structure. >> Yes. >> Do we know how how big the structure is as opposed to the panels or how many panels there are? >> That we we just don't know yet. We're the zoning is the first step for us to allow us to then begin to solicit um information from people who might be interested. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And as I was mentioning earlier um that that zoning [clears throat] um is one aspect of it but then they've got to understand how much power they can they get to that particular site and that will then determine the kind of build how build how big the building will end up being able to be built. >> Okay. And I heard mention also that it uh would would require a lot of manpower in construction to get it built and then it would be relatively [clears throat] hands-off. So >> yeah, some of the some of the jobs that are being brought in are construction related jobs that will go >> Yes, very much so. Yeah, the um some of the data centers that are kind of being built over in kind of north of I20 around Abene and and that area. Um some of them have 1500 electricians uh on site right now. And so um the it it requires a tremendous amount of manpower to get it built. Um some of our uh companies that are here in Levik actually are um supplying product over their Armstrong plumbing um right now is supplying product over to that Abene area uh right now. And they said they're they've just got as much manpower as they can um to try to help uh build build those facilities that are over there. >> And and so are you familiar on on those types of facilities? I mean, we've heard comments about the noise and the pollution. Uh, are there >> uh so these companies that are building these do not um want to be causing problems. Um, Leperno Foods was a great example of that as well. They put on extra buffers on their um the areas that might have some additional noise so that it uh causes the noise to go up as opposed to out into the neighborhoods. Um, these data centers um are in strong structures. U their tilt wall construction. Um it the the product is that that is inside it. Uh the servers are all going to be buffered from that um uh with the concrete um tilt wall. And then uh additionally the uh remember it's built in the middle of the land um away from uh the neighborhood areas. And so when you're talking about 900 acres, that's a significant amount of land uh area between uh between those areas. Well, that then that actually leads me to my my next question is was there something specific about the location of that land? Was it just that it was that large or was it that it was in that part of the town? >> So, data centers um need multiple things. Um one is that they need power and um so the electric lines that come into Lach that connect us to come in on the north side of Levik and then over on the northeast side and exit on the southeast side of Lev. And so the connection to those lines gives them the opportunity for for power from the grid. And so uh right now uh LPNL does not have power lines uh over in the west side of Levik or even in the southwest side of Levik that connect to the UrkOT grid um of the size quantity to be able to bring this kind of power to it. Um they are attempting to loop the system eventually and it would loop around the west side but they don't have that um they don't have that built yet. the uh so the next step after the power um the again they they need some water um initially uh to fill those systems and um they don't want to take out of the aquifer they want to use municipal water um we have a an ordinance in Levik that requires them to be inside the city limits in order to get municipal [clears throat] water and so um this area is located inside the city limits and um is located near one of those lines and so that's one [clears throat] reason why this area has been identified. >> One of the probably the biggest impacts that data centers have on um on our economy is for us as citizens and that when you put on billions of dollars of investment onto the tax roles and yet you don't have necessarily um thousands of jobs associated with that on on a long-term basis. than our taxing entities like the hospital district or the road flood or or those entities get a windfall of dollars coming to them but not someone impacting their services. So us as citizens our tax rates get to to be uh lesser as a result. [clears throat] >> Can you tie in what you're saying into the concerns that some of the citizens are saying about like their wells, you know, getting lower but we're not tapping wells? That's correct. Yes. >> The power coming from electric and solar. So you're not really polluting um you're not producing something there, right? >> Correct. Uh yes, sir. So the the while this has to be industrial, it's because of the classification of what industrial uh allows. It's not necessarily an industrial plant like some people think of that's producing smoke stacks and things of that nature. It's an enclosed building. It's going to look and feel much more like an office building. If you were to walk in one, it'd actually be very air conditioned. It' be very very cool. And um and so the uh the pollution that's coming out of that uh so-called pollution, the the air that's being emitted is just airond conditioned air. Um and and um it's not a it's not a producing a a type of gas that's going to cause um issues. the um the solar generation that's on site is requiring the zoning case and um to make it with the special use. Am I saying that right? Uh to make it with the special use and that is uh an effort to um try to produce more power for that particular building um as close to the power source as possible. If um if we're not able to put that solar uh on on that particular site, then more power has to be produced on the grid. um that power is generally produced in you know other means and other ways. Um and so uh we we see this as a great compromise to be able to have um some additional power at at that building. >> And then the last thing is that the data center buildings themselves are going to be away from the houses. It's going to be basically a bunch of solar panels between the building and the houses. >> Yes. And actually there'll be land uh between the houses and the solar panels and then there'll be solar panels between the land and uh the buildings. There'll be a a major buffer around the area. >> Thank you. >> You uh mentioned the developer has some other projects going in other cities. Are they the same type of projects as data centers? >> Yes, sir. >> Mhm. >> What phases of construction or completion are those projects at this time? Do you do that? >> I don't think I in my conversations with him, I don't recall him saying that any are currently under construction. Um to these um hypers scale data centers are really really complicated. Um when you're talking uh to kind of put in perspective, the city of Leach in the heat of the summer with using the most power, everybody's got their air conditioners on and and using a lot of power uses in the neighborhood of about 750 megawatts of power. Um a lot of these uh hypers scale data centers are a gigawatt of power which is you know another 25% greater uh than than what we use as an entire city and that's all into one building. So that's an engineering um kind of complicated process. So therefore the studies related to it are also complicated to make sure that it can actually get the kind of power that it needs. um the bulk of those um studies that are are being done on the UrkOT grid take about 18 months. And so I know that he's started some of those processes in the other cities, but I don't think he's actually started construction primarily because those studies have not been completed yet. >> Thank you. >> My question is more for city staff where in our new uh UDC, can we do specific use? I mean I thought I know in a lot of things where somebody says I'm going to do this there was a concern if all the other studies don't come through can will it be zoned this or will it go back? >> So when if a specific use when a specific use is approved the property has 30 months 2 and a half years to get a permit for that specific use. If that permit is not obtained within that two and a half year time frame, the zoning will revert. >> Thank you. >> That is the entire zoning or is that just a specific use? >> The entire zoning since this is a single request. >> Great. >> All right. I guess I've got some questions, Terry or John. Either one. We talked about water >> and and you're claiming that you're not going to use any opera for water at all. So it shouldn't upset the wells if this guy with the center pivot has your neighbor. It's not going to draw his his water down. >> Correct. >> That's what you're saying. All right. As far as power goes, I understand solar. >> They want and need city water. They don't want to [clears throat] use >> I get I'm just making sure. >> You bet. >> Power. You talk about supplemental power beyond beyond what you pull off, beyond what you pull off the solar panels. Is the plan to put turbines there? >> No. What what alternate power generation do you have? >> Yeah, I can address that, too. Um, so again, working with city staff on our projects, um, city staff has stated that they do not want um additional [snorts] wind turbines in the city limits. >> Not wind turbines, turbine like gas turbine power. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Gas turbines. Yes. So, I I think ultimately that that is something that they want to have so that they can have a large enough uh power source to to be there. The gas turbines um that would take place would be obviously um done to today's standards which require much more um uh rigorous um uh sound and um environmental safety uh standards to be in place in order to be operating [snorts] than they were 40 50 years ago. >> All right, hang on. Is there any restrictions at all to power generation in the city like that inside city limits [cough] >> any I'm sorry I'm not sure >> in this zoning proposal is there any restriction to power generation such as gas turbons >> in the city >> so of course they would have to have the approval of the specific use there may be some additional regulations tied to that specific use >> I I guess my the focus of my question is do they just move the gas turbines into the county outside the city limits and problem solved? I mean >> for this particular case but not necessarily for the any other case that might come forward. >> Okay. [clears throat] >> All right. Next next one is what kind of do you know what kind of decibel noise output these >> I I honestly don't I have not looked that information up. I know that that's something that u we talked with our prospects on as they build to make sure that it's um uh it's supposed to be at a a level that is reasonable for the particular area. Again, 900 acres and this building is in the middle of it. It's sound's got to travel a very long way to get to housing. >> Okay. What kind of what kind of climate changes would you see around a large solar farm like hot wind blowing off of it for the neighbors houses in the summertime? I mean, has have there been any studies done for that? >> If there has, I'm not aware of any. I I know that in the major metropolitan areas when you get down into the Austin and San Antonio area, um there's a lot of major um solar fields that are down there um close by to residential areas. Um I'm not sure how they got those uh approved or went forward with them. Uh but um it doesn't that seems to be something that um takes place more often. >> That's not West Texas where we have a lot of wind. >> All right. >> So the I grew up in the country and we always had a neighbor that didn't didn't take care of his farm or plies fields. I mean what's the plan to keep what's the plan to keep blowing dust to a minimum on this bar grass? I mean, I actually followed Terry's instructions, went out and drove the place today. It's dusty, especially today. It's really dry. I mean, all it needs is a good spark and it'll go up. >> What's What's the plan to keep that >> clean, dustfree, dust, mitigates the dust and and fire hazard? >> Yeah, the um I I know that um being inside the city limits, he'll have to follow all the city ordinances as it relates to um keeping up with the property. Um I think that they're still in the development phase of things, but those he is from California. He's used to that kind of development being required. And so um I know he would address any of those um uh issues. >> Okay. What kind of what kind of landscaping requirements would be on this or around the perimeter at all? >> So there [clears throat] there's three types of landscaping in our code. You have a minimum percentage requirement of land area. In the general industrial district, I believe it's 10%. In addition to that, depending on what the adjacent property is zoned, they will have to do buffer yards. Specifically, if you are adjacent to a residentially zoned district, you'll have a 30 foot wide buffer yard. Um, [clears throat] and then there's a point system that is based on the gross floor area of the structures where they have to obtain a certain number of points using different landscaping elements laid out in the code. So quite a bit of landscaping. Definitely an increase from our former code. >> 900 acres. >> Yeah, >> I drove out there today. There's no landscaping. >> There are cars sofas, but there's no landscaping. >> It's it's currently being used um to run cattle on. >> Yeah. Okay, that's all the questions I've got. >> Anybody else? >> All right. Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. >> All right. Any other discussion? M >> M Mr. Chairman, >> yeah. >> Uh I think just in answer to your water question, this is this needs to be stated and this is a common thing across all of West Texas. There are currently a handful of center pivots that are in operation on this property out here. I can't remember two or three something like that. >> It's well known that when you pull that a center pivot draws way more water out of the aquifer than even if you had that area filled up with homes. And so long term when those center pivots become decommissioned that can only help the underground water supply in the location. I just wanted to reinforce that. Thank you. >> Okay. >> All right. discussion. [clears throat] All right, then if y'all are ready to vote, I'll go ahead and call the question. >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> And all oppose say nay. >> Nay. >> Can we count on that? >> All right. So, all the eyes, hands, we got three. >> Yep. and all the nays. That's four. So motion fails. Four to three. >> All right, >> Mr. Chairman, just for the benefit of the audience, this case will still move forward to city council. That meeting will be January 27th at 2 o'clock. >> Thank you. >> All right. All right. Next zoning case 3.2 uh case number 1112H. I'm just All right. Uh, good evening, distinguished members of the commission. I'm Jamie McGar with the planning department, and this is zone case 112-H. The applicant is Brooke and Josh Lennen for Three Dog Holdings LLC. This is request for a zone change from neighborhood commercial district and C to Auto urban commercial district AC. 49 notification letters were sent out and we have received no responses. The properties located west of north west of North 50th Street and east of Avenue N. Here's an aerial view showing residential properties to the north and commercial properties to the east, west, and south. The current land use map shows medium-density residential zoning to the north with commercial zoning districts to the east, west, and south. The future land use map designates this property for commercial use. Here's a picture of the subject property facing north as well as views to the south, east, and west. The current future land use maps designates the serial for commercial land uses. The proposed zone change to auto urban commercial district conforms to this designation. The property is suitable for the proposed zone change and uses allowed in the auto urban commercial district. The subject property fronts 50th street. The master thofur plan 2018 designates 50th street as a principal arterial street. Arterial streets are continuous routes whose function is to serve high volume needs of local traffic and regional traffic. Staff has no objection to the request and I can take any questions at this time. All right. Questions for staff. Guess we're good. Thanks. All right. Is there anyone uh wishing to speak in opposition to this case? >> Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, let's talk to the applicant. My bad. I still got my training wheels on, people. So, uh, is the applicant in the house? >> Thank you, sir. You step forward, state your name and address, and >> Yes, sir. My name is Josh Linen. I'm the owner of Anytime Unlock at 2006 50th Street. Um, and so we're looking to change the zoning on this because we do fundraisers. Um, didn't really realize you needed a venue for that for the autocommercial zoning. So [clears throat] that's what we're trying to do. We do um VA benefit gatherings. We do a meetings, different things in that location. So we're just trying to meet city requirements to change the zoning for the facility that you already have if that makes sense. >> Sure. Are you doing anything to the facility or you're just >> So, I have a locksmith company there and we're trying to do it to where we kind of merge it to have like a convenience store status as well as a small venue inside of it because it's a 5,000 foot warehouse. It's a lot of rent. I got to pay the bills, just be honest. Um, so we rented out for we did hot dogs for the homeless this year. We fed 500 families out of that out of our pocket, but it allows them a place when it's cold especially to come in. You know, we have tables in there. We got a couple little pool tables in there. We do a lot with the ROC. So, it gives those kids some place to come before they get off the street, you know, we don't sell any kind of alcohol, you know, something like that. Um, it's just we sell we have fountain drinks, we sell sodas, you know, some place for some people to come together that's not honest honest just trash, you know, and that's a big part of that area around there. We have a lot of homeless. Give some place to just come in, sit down, not bother anybody. We don't gamble. We don't do anything crazy, you know. Mostly it's just to kind of give back to the community. That's what we like to do. Okay. All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Now, is there anybody would wish to speak in opposition to this request? >> Okay. Is anybody want to speak in favor of this request? All right. Seeing nobody, we'll close the public hearing and ask for a motion. >> A motion to approve for discussion. >> I'll second. >> Second. All right. We got a motion and a second. questions, discussion, time. >> All right. Straightforward. >> Straight forward. >> Yep. All right. >> I do I do I do have one quick question. Uh is there is the zoning change necessary here? Could you not excuse me? Could you not accomplish the same thing through a conditional or a specific use permit? >> No, there is not an option for a specific use for this type of use. >> All right. All right. Well, then everybody in favor of this zone say I. >> I. >> All opposed 70. All right. This will be forward to the city council uh on January 27th for their approval. Next zone case is uh 3.391J. [snorts] >> This is zone case 1391J. The applicant is AMD Engineering LLC for BCCS Legacy Holdings LLC. This is a request for zone change from median density residential district MDR to Auto urban commercial district AC. 177 notification letters were sent out and we received one in favor and none in opposition. The property is located south of Loop 289 and east of Indiana Avenue. Here's the response map showing the one in favor. Here is an aerial view showing residential properties to the north and south, a commercial property to the west, and a retention pond to the east. The current land use map shows residential zoning to the north, south, east, and west. The future land use map designates this property for commercial use. Here's a picture of the subject property facing south as well as views to the north, [snorts] east, and west. The future land use maps designates this area for commercial land uses. The proposed zone change to auto urban commercial district conforms to this designation. [clears throat] The property is suitable for the proposed zone change and the uses allowed in the auto urban commercial district. The subject property front south loop 289. The master thoroughfare plan 2018 designates South Loop 289 as a freeway. Freeways are intended to move high volumes of automobile traffic at relatively [clears throat] high speeds over long distances. Staff has no objection to the request and I can take any questions at this time. >> Any questions? All right. Thank you. Is the applicant here today for this case? Good evening. I'm Corey Dulan with AMD Engineering at 651568 Street. Um, this is the the old Holiday Inn that was raised several years ago. Uh, a lot of these properties are currently zoned as multif family. It's never really functioned as that. And so, just trying to get this zoning back to what it should be in this area. There are no firm plans on what is going to go here right now. They're >> [clears throat] >> um more speculative for Q for restaurants and u commercial retail type facilities uh here. So no no specific plans but just trying to get the zoning right. Be happy to answer any questions. >> Questions. >> All right. Is there anyone who would like to speak in opposition to this zoning request? Okay, come forward. State your name and your address, please. >> Good afternoon. This is very new to me. I I'm Gwendel and Bane. I am a new property owner due to the untimely death of my husband. And so this is all very new to me and I'm request you know bear with me. What my question I mostly have a question for AMD engineering for the commission. Um and if you could include this in in your discussion and and tell give us a an answer or information. Uh how would this [clears throat] I live in one of the homes directly behind where your zoning change is. I'm at 3204 74th Street, which is immediately south of where you're looking at this zoning change. And my question here to you all is how will this zoning change? How will it or could it in the future change the value of the properties that are in this aligned area that are due south on the other side of the alley so to speak of where this property is is where you're considering the zone change on this property. Will it make more noise? Will it make more trash? We already have plenty of that in this area because it comes off the freeway and out of the other areas. Um that will will it produce more more traffic in this area that would be negative toward the residential homeownership uh issues there or or or living there or or safety, whatever you want to call that. Um I know I'm probably rambling. Um I appreciate your concern. Please talk about these things in your consideration of what when you're make your choice here and um let us know please if you can answer for me especially the valuation thing because this is very new to me and my husband took care of all this previously and I'm very new to the system. So thank you. I appreciate your time. So >> thank you so much sir. Ladies >> I'm sorry. Cy >> actually had the pleasure of speaking miss with Miss Bang on the phone the other day. I was the one that uh visited with you. >> Yes. So to answer your question and maybe answer the question up here to to everyone. The property will only be accessible from the loop. So there won't be any traffic coming into the neighborhood. There will be a finger of the lake that is there. Can we go back a slide or two? So what you what you see right here, this blue area here is the ply lake. There will be a finger of the lake that will pretty much go the entire uh boundary on the south and on the north. Uh there's there's some drainage channels that come on the north side and the south side of that pyramid plaza. So those have to continue. So there's going to be some buffer there. >> So there won't be any parking immediately behind. >> No ma'am, not immediately behind. there's going to be a significant buffer there because of that because of that lake issue. So, I can answer that question. I I can't answer the property value uh question, but I I would imagine maybe Miss Rogers could help with that, but it it should not affect it. I mean, it's this is these properties here that are directly behind. Are you in one of these town homes? >> I'm not in a town home. I'm in like you're in one of these duplex right next right there. >> Okay. So you're you're in a transition zone that we have for for homes that were designed to be built between the commercial and the and the residential. And so it's we're already in a in a pretty good sweet spot with what you have. And so it should not affect that in my opinion. I'm not a real real estate expert like Miss Rogers, so I'll I'll defer to her, but if you have any other questions, let me know. >> Okay. Thanks, Court. >> All right. Is there anyone else who'd like to speak in opposition to this request? All right. Anybody would like to speak in favor of this request? Okay. So, we'll close the public hearing and ask for a motion. >> Move to approve. >> Second. >> You got a second motion and a second discussion. >> It's pretty straightforward. Just cleaning up, you know, some zoning that matches the adjacent [clears throat] tracks of land there. It's against our largest highway. >> Yeah, I can't imagine building medium density residential housing on the loop. >> There's a pretty major transmission line that goes through that site, too, that makes it challenging. So, I think commercial's a good fit. >> Questions? All right. So, all in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Any opposed? All right. 70. Next case 3.4 case 3546. Oh, and we want to do we want to do 3546 and 3547 in conjunction with each other. We knocked two out. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. >> Good evening, distinguished members of the commission. I am William Lee Stockton with the planning department. This is zone case 3546. The applicant is Wkelman and Associates, Inc. for Lutheran Christ Church. The applicants are requesting to reszone from lowdensity single family district SF2 to Auto urban commercial AC. The subject property is addressed as 12704 Quaker Avenue, located west of Quaker Avenue and south of 127th Street and north of 130th Street, Future Loop 88. 51 letters were sent out. We received two back in favor and zero in opposition from within the notification boundary. Here is a notification map showing the two in favor within the notification area. Here is an aerial view of the property. To the west is vacant land. To the north is single family homes. To the east is a mix of garden offices and neighborhood commercial currently under construction. [snorts] The property to the south is vacant and under common development with this case. The f the case following this presentation covers this property. The current land map shows highdensity residential and lowdensity single family properties to the north, garden offices and neighborhood commercial to the east, vacant land to the west, and heavy commercial and lowdensity single family zoning to the south. The future land use map shows residential low density to the north and west, offices to the east, and commercial to the south. Here's a picture of the subject property from the addressed frontage on Quaker Avenue, as well as views to the east, north, and south. Here's a survey exhibit provided by the applicant showing the site plan. The future land use map designates this area for lowdensity residential land uses. The proposed zone change to auto urban commercial district does not conform with this designation. However, due to the proximity of future loop 88 and the current development in the area, this request would be in moderate conformance with the comprehensive plan principles. The proposed zone change is compatible with the zoning ordinance and will be appropriate to the proposed location due to the property being located along a principal arterial and near future loop 88. This request is compatible with the area and will not change the characteristics of the surrounding area. The subject property is located on Quaker Avenue and 127th Street. The master third plan of 2018 designates Quaker Avenue as a principal arterial street and 127th as a local street. Staff has no objections to the request and I can take questions at this time or after the next presentation. Should I just go straight to the next one? Sure. [cough and clears throat] >> This is zoning case 3547. The applicant is Wkelman and Associates Inc. for Bolton Oil Company Limited. The applicants are requesting a reszone from lowdensity single family district SF2 to auto urban commercial AC. The subject property is addressed as 4404 130th Street, located west of Quaker Avenue and north of 130th Street, Petri Loop 88. 16 letters were sent out. We received zero back in favor and one in opposition from the within the notification boundary. Here's a notification map showing the one in opposition within the notification area. Here's an aerial view of the property. To the west is commercial buildings. To the east is a mix of garden offices and commercial property under currently under construction. To the south is 130th Street, Future Loop 88, and vacant land across the freeway. The property to this north is vacant under and under common development with this case. The case preceding this presentation cover this property. The current land use map shows lowdensity single family properties to the north, garden offices and neighborhood commercial to the east, heavy commercial to the west, and auto urban commercial to the south. The feature land use map shows residential low density to the north, commercial to the west, offices and commercial to the east, and commercial to the south. The feature land use plan already has the subject property as commercial. Here is a picture of the subject property from the address frontage on 130th Street as well as views to the east, west, and south. Here's the same survey exhibit provided by the applicant showing the site plan. The future land use plan map designates this area for commercial uses. The proposed zone change to auto urban commercial district conforms to this designation. Therefore, this request is in complete conformance with the comprehensive plan principles. The propos proposed zoning change is compatible with the zoning ordinance and will be appropriate at the proposed location. Due the property located along a principal arterial and along future loop 88. This request is compatible with in the area and will not change the characteristics of the surrounding area. The subject property is located on Quaker Avenue and 130th Street. The massive third floor plan 2018 2018 designates Quaker Avenue as a principal arterial and 130th street as a freeway. Arterial streets are continuous routes whose function is to serve high volume means of local traffic and regional traffic. Freeways are intended to move high volumes of automobile traffic at relatively high speeds over long distances and staff has no objection to this request and I can take any questions over the two cases at this time. Okay. >> Any questions for either case? >> All right. Thank you, >> sir. Thank you. >> All right. Is someone from Wlman Associates here? Thank you, sir. >> State your name and address. >> Good evening. My name is Michael Clark. I'm with Wkelman and Associates, 6750 Hillrest Plaza, sweet 215 Dallas 75230. Here representing the uh both the church in Bolton Oil as well as uh SDI Realy, the developer of this site. Uh, I mean, I think staff's done an excellent job of of describing what's what's around there and and the site plan, I think, shows our our concept. I think the the the loop under construction and the intersection there with Quaker seems to justify a site like this and uh and we respectfully request your approval and I'm happy to answer any specific questions I can. >> All right, questions for any. >> All right. Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. All right. So, we'll call for anybody that's uh want to talk in opposition to this zoning request. All right. Seeing nobody, is there anybody in favor of this zoning request like to talk? Okay. So, we'll close the public hearing and call question or call the motion. >> So, moved. Second. >> Okay. Got a motion and a second. discussion. >> We have something just like this what quarter mile to the north on the other side of the road on Quaker there. And this looks to mimic that pretty closely and I think that's been a very successful project and [snorts] this makes a lot of sense there at the corner of a major intersection of the highway in Quaker. >> I agree. I don't know what else you're going to put there can put there. >> It's a good fit. >> All right. Well, if there's no other discussion, call call vote. Everybody in favor say I. >> I. I >> all oppose same sign case 70. Next case is 3.6 zone case 3549. [snorts] [clears throat] Good evening. I am Sam Bracken with the planning department and this is zone case 3549. The applicant is AMD Engineering LLC. They are requesting a zone change from lowdensity single family district SF2 to Heavy Commercial District HC. The property is located west of Quaker Avenue and north of 130th Street. 10 letters were sent out and we've received zero in favor and one in opposition. Here's the notification map showing the one opposed property owner. There were was no reason listed for the opposition. There is commercial development to the east and west. To the north is undeveloped vacant land and to the south is future loop 88 and undeveloped vacant land. The surrounding properties are zoned lowdensity single family district SF2 with the northern property recently reszoned to medium density residential district MDR. The property to the east is zoned heavy commercial district HC and the property to the south is zoned auto urban commercial district AC. The future land use map designates this area for commercial land uses. Here is a picture of the subject property as well as views to the south, west, and east. The future land use map designates this area for commercial land uses. The request conforms to this designation and would be appropriate in this location. Therefore, this request is in complete conformance with the comprehensive plan principles. The proposed zone change is in conformance with the zoning ordinance and will be appropriate at the proposed location. The proposed zone change is compatible with the surrounding area and will not change the character of the existing development. The location is along 130th Street Future Loop 88 which is designated as a freeway by the master thoroughfare plan 2018. Staff has no objection to this request and I can take any questions at this time. >> All right. Questions for staff? I think we're good. Thank you. As applicant here Curry, welcome back. This is really another one of those cleanup cases. Uh there is a prospective buyer for this. Uh and so there is a live project. This property is currently owned by uh Destiny Pools been operating as a more of an industrial type facility for the last few decades. So be happy to answer any questions if you have them. >> Questions. >> U what is it going to be? Warren Cat um equipment sales I believe is what it's going to be. >> All right. Any other questions? All right. Thanks. Okay. Is there anybody who would like to speak in opposition to this case? All right. Anybody want to speak in favor of this case? All right. Well, we'll close the public hearing and uh call for a motion. Motion for discussion. >> Second. >> Motion and a second. All right. Discussion. Any nothing. >> It's on the loop. It makes sense. >> Yeah. I mean that >> Miles is doing a good job. So, all right. Well, we'll call the vote. All in favor say I. >> I. >> All oppose. Same sign. 70. >> Okay. >> [snorts] >> 3.7 case 3550. >> Good evening again, chairman and members of the board. This is zone case 3550. The applicant is AMD Engineering LLC for Steve and Vicky Baker. They're requesting a zone change from lowdensity single family district SF2 and Auto urban commercial district AC to heavy commercial district AC and office district. The subject property is located south of Future Loop 88 and east of Slide Road. We have sent 73 notices with no responses. Here's that aerial map. There is vacant land on all sides with commercial businesses also to the north and homes that are being developed currently to the south and southeast. [snorts] Here is the zoning map. There is a mix of auto urban commercial AC and SF2 on all sides with additional heavy commercial HC district to the north across loop 88. Here's a future land use map which designates this area for both commercial and lowdensity residential land uses. Here are photos of the subject and surrounding property. And here's also an exhibit provided by the applicant. The future land use map designates this area for both commercial and lowdensity residential land uses. Although the proposed zone change is not fully consistent with this designation, it would be appropriate considering the existing nearby zoning districts and land uses. Additionally, the proposed office district would serve as a buffer for the existing homes to the south and the homes that are being built currently and also from the uh heavy commercial district. Therefore, this request is in moderate conformance of the comprehensive plan principles. The proposed zone changes in conformance of the zoning ordinance and is compatible with the surrounding area would not change the character of the existing development. The location is along 130th Street or future loop 88 slide road and 138th Street which are designated as a freeway, arterial and a future collector respectively by the master thoroughfare plan 2018. Staff has no objection to this request and I'd be pleased to answer any questions you may have at this time. >> Questions? >> Thank you. Oh, I have a question. >> Go ahead. >> On that strip of land is designated for offices. >> Can we go back to that? [snorts] >> Um, there we go. >> Okay. So, there aren't any houses to the I guess that would be to the west, right? Currently, it's not platted for that. There are there are no parcels there for that. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you, >> Corey. So, I've been looking at this property for quite a few years. Uh originally uh I did a plan for a developer that wanted to fill the lake and put commercial on the hard corner. Um this was prior to Techtop purchasing the rideway. A [snorts] a lot of this property is within the limits of the Ply Lake. You you can see this here. Techtop purchased this from the Bakers a few years ago and and dug out quite a bit. Um so a good portion of this is still lake with the with the current development plan. Uh we're proposing to wrap the commercial around the lake. We're we're zoning the lake the way that we are so that we don't have any issues with setbacks and buffering and things of that nature in the future. Gives us a little bit of flexibility on where we reclaim. Gives us the ability to reclaim on the south side or the east side. So that's the reason why the the entire property is being zoned the way that it is. Um there's a few things that we have to deal with being along this loop frontage. We're really only going to get one curb cut along the the loop outside of Udica Avenue. And so we're proposing an art, you know, an artery street uh or or private drive here for the commercial facility. Basically the same thing off of Slide Road. It's a text roadway as well. And with the um current cut here for 138th Street in this facility, we're limited on what we can do. So, we're working on a master plan now that will include some big box retail, um, hotels, QSRs, restaurants, strip centers, etc. We've worked with the adjacent land owner over over here, Mr. Robert Meyers, and and he requested that there be um, you know, us omitting certain types [clears throat] of properties adjacent to his residential. So, we worked with him on on making sure that we're fronting this 138th Street uh from this point back with uh a garden office type product. He he he was uh requesting that we do that and that and that fit our overall scheme for the metrics of what we wanted to do here with this property. Um with that, I'd be happy to answer any more questions. Right now, I don't have any specific buyers or anything like that. We're still working on land plans. uh but needed to get this zoning um handled before we move forward with the contract. >> Questions? >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. >> All right. Is there anyone wishing to speak in opposition to this zoning request? Anyone wishing to speak in favor of this zoning request? >> All right. I will close the public hearing and call for a motion. >> Move to approve. Second. >> A motion and a second. Discussion. >> Okay, I'll call the vote. >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> All oppose. Same sign. I've forgotten this most of not, but it will be forwarded to the city council for their consideration. Vote on January 27th. That [clears throat] all proceeded cases. Sorry. All right. You okay? All right. So, next is 3.8 case 3016F. Sorry, Adam. Don't know what happened there. Um, this is zone case 3016-f. The applicant is R2M Engineering LLC. [clears throat] They [snorts] are requesting a zone change from office district to neighborhood commercial district NC. The property is located east of Upland Avenue and south of 98th Street. 66 letters were sent out and we've received one in favor and 22 in opposition citing reasons such as traffic safety and property values. Here's the notification map showing one in favor and six opposed property owners. We've received one letter that is not reflected on this map. There are 15 opposition letters from outside of the notification boundary and there should be 14 letters available to you on the dis. [snorts] The aerial map shows residential dwellings to the north and south and vacant land to the east and west. The surrounding properties are zoned lowdensity single family district SF2 to the north and south, office district to the east and to the west. Neighborhood Commercial District NC, which was reszoned from SF2 and OAF in [snorts] August 2025. The future land use map designates this area for commercial [clears throat] land uses. Here's a picture of the subject property as well as views to the north, west, and east. The future land use map designates this area for commercial land uses. The request conforms to this designation and would be appropriate in this location. Therefore, this request is in complete conformance with the comprehensive plan principles. The proposed zone change is in conformance with the zoning ordinance and will be appropriate at the proposed location. The proposed zone change is compatible with the surrounding area and will not change the character of the existing development. The location is along 98th Street which is designated as a principal arterial street by the master thoroughfare plan 2018. Staff has no objection to this request and I can take any questions at this time. >> All right. Questions for staff? >> Okay. Thank you. Is R2M here? >> Yes, sir. >> Thank you. >> Uh Jason Brewer, R2M Engineering. We're out of uh 51250th Street. Um this zoning request is being done to fit a land usage for a neighborhood market. Um I know there were several questions that came up in the uh initial um public comment area and um I I can address those now or later. Um, essentially this neighborhood market, one of them, one of the things that they had said was traffic. And I think I may know how to operate this. If we go back to this area right here where it shows what we are actually zoning. Um, one of their major issues that they said, they said Upland Avenue, which it may be impacted by some traffic coming and going to this, and they said Rochester, Rochester will have no access, cross access, anything onto this site. This site directly to the west is going to be a shared access onto the site because of the covert that will have to be built across. It's going to be a box covert driveway, which is pretty intricate and complicated when it comes to building on something this size. Um, so there is going to be no Rochester impact. Um, the neighborhood marketing question. Um, they state that they have one delivery per week during normal business hours. It's not a midnight or um off hours delivery truck. and they usually see four to five customers per hour. Um, peak hours are after 5:00 p.m. So, um, you know, it it it lines up with um people coming and going to and from work. Um, the other thing I I heard was some some safety issues. This has to have a 10-ft buffer yard across the back side being that it is against a residential district. and then it would have a 7 foot fence uh along along that district as well. So there are several things that are going to be in place um with this that are already being considered. I'll be happy to answer any questions you guys have at this time. Questions? >> Quick sorry quick question. Is this going to trigger some of the curb on the south side of 9? >> Yes, sir. It will um it will trigger curb and gutter along that. Yes sir, you are absolutely correct. >> And is there going to be access? It's going to be I guess I'm assuming >> the the access if you look at that west uh orange property line that's shown right there. It's going to actually abut that the the neighborhood or the the development directly to our west will be building the access and we would have access through them through shared access. Yes, sir. Got you. All right. Any other questions? Okay. Thank you. All right. So, I'd like to open it up for uh people to speak who are in opposition to this request. I know there are several. I would ask that y'all please um not say the same thing over and over and over. If you've got if you've got a separate uh I I want everybody to be able to speak, but if you have uh if you have something new to add or something like that that we're welcome to hear it, but if it's, you know, if it's something that somebody else has brought up, uh then please say I agree with that and move on. So, with that, let's uh open up the open up the discussion. If anybody would like to speak in opposition to this zoning request, please come forth. >> Okay. And state your name and address for the race. Sir, >> my name is Dennis Humble. I live at 702499th Street. You're on that map. >> Yes, sir. >> When you when you turn, you're going west on 98 and you turn left on the house on the corner right there. >> Okay. And what that's going to do, which we I've heard this this will repeat a little bit, but if there's truck traffic down that alley, that's a problem. And I I don't understand the access because I haven't seen the access map. Is it coming from the west off of Upland or are they going to build a bridge across that that uh ditch? >> Yeah, it's absolutely going to be a bridge across the ditch. Okay. Where >> it's going to be on the west property line where you see the west orange line. That's the box. >> Is that one store? >> That's going to be one store. >> And what kind of store is it? >> It's going to be a neighborhood market. >> What does that mean? >> Um, a neighborhood market, >> grocery store, drug store. >> Um, it it I'm actually under NDA on that. >> NDA. And what's that? >> Not disclosure. So, I don't get to know what it is. >> I'll be [snorts] happy to take your name and >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. Yes, sir. >> Anyway. >> Okay. >> Please, please hear me out. >> We bought a house there because we thought it was going to be uh garden offices. >> Okay. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you, sir. >> And don't ever say you guys don't earn your money. [laughter] >> Thank you so much. All right. Anyone else? Okay. >> Hi, thank you. Um, my name is Becca Sanchez and I live at 704299. I'm the third house right on that yellow line. >> Okay. >> Um, so this directly affects me. It'll be in my backyard. Um, when he says neighborhood market, there were some land men out there the other day. My husband went and spoke to them. Um, they only spoke Spanish, but my husband speaks Spanish luckily. And um we were told it's going to be a Dollar General. So we do not want a Dollar General in our backyard. We do not want any commercial properties in our backyard. We bought our home under the assumption that this was going to be garden offices. And not only did we, but our neighbors who couldn't be here tonight, um they have a disabled daughter. they bought under the assumption and they've invested a lot of money into their home to make their house handicapped accessible. And to change it on them, to change it on every single house in that neighborhood at this point is extremely unfair. And the y'all know noise, the traffic in and out. When he says one freight truck a week, that is absurd. I don't know any commercial store that only takes one freight truck a week. That is an a lie. Um, sorry. [laughter] I'm sorry. They don't. They take multiple trucks and they take them all hours. They take them when it's convenient for the receivers. I work in the industry. I know. They take it when it's convenient for them. They do not care about my neighborhood. They care about making money for their store. Um, there's going to be unloading activities. There's going to be lights over that 7 foot fence that will shine into my backyard, will shine into my bedroom windows. Um, there will be after 5:00 my kids play out there. We have a basketball court or basketball goal, I'm sorry, on our driveway. Every neighborhood kid comes over to our house and plays basketball, rides their scooters along that [clears throat] um alleyway, rides their bikes every single evening. Mine were mad that I was coming to this meeting tonight and they could not ride their scooters outside today. Um, it's going to really hurt our property values. I think that goes without saying. To have a dollar store or an NDA undisclosed store neighborhood market, it's going to hurt our property value. So, my husband's a teacher. I'm an office manager. We bought this as long as we're in Levik. This is what we thought was going to be our home and we knew that this was going to be office space behind us. So to change it at this point is extremely unfair to the entire neighborhood. Um I also have we have many people from our neighborhood here tonight to oppose this. But I also um have a petition that we took around the neighborhood and I have 56 signatures on this of people that couldn't make it here tonight and some of them are here tonight but I have 56 additional signatures if I can get hand that to y'all. >> Yeah. >> And then I also have my letter of opposition. >> Okay. >> With pictures of my property. >> Okay. >> Thank you. um and my statement as well as how this will hurt our area. Um so also um one other thing I want to say to change something to a commercial like this is to bring a benefit to the neighborhood. There's no benefit to our neighborhood for this. We have a Walmart under two miles. We have Milwaukee a mile from our property. every commercial property you could think of. We have four Dollar Generals within four to five miles of us. Um we have a convenience store, a nice convenience store on the corner right across the street from us. This does not bring any value to our neighborhood. Um and it will actually really hurt most of everybody in the neighborhood. So with that, I just ask that you all vote to oppose this zoning change. Thank you all very much. >> Thank you. >> [clears throat] >> MY name is John Rubio and I live on 7038 999th Street. My house is going to be the last one that touches it on the uh uh east side. Um I live two houses down from the Sanchez family and like she said, we have a basketball goal too in our backyard or in our driveway. our kids play together every day. Um, I just want to say I strongly oppose this and um, turning this from an office district to a neighborhood commercial district. Um, like I did say, my property would be directly south of it. Um, I with the simple Google search, you know, you can't take [clears throat] take everything for serious on the internet, but commercial properties areas generally have a higher crime rate. specifically with thefts and robberies um than uh an office district. So the ridge or the Lakewood district which covers a big plot of our area has one of the lowest crime rates and one of the safest cities become or safest neighborhoods. We come in at number five in this in in love, Texas and according to neighborhoodscout.com. So in my opinion adding a commercial um our neighborhood, commercial district changing this, I think it would drastically affect us. We have a very tight-knit neighborhood. All the all the kids play together. They're on their scooters, like she said. You know, we do Fourth of July parades together. You know, we have a pool that's right there. All the kids like to have fun. He said 5:00 would be their busiest time. A lot of our kids get out of school, we have fun, whatever. And they also said it's their peak hours. He said five to six I believe he said five to six people or customers is you know is is what they're trying to you know trying to be. So I I really I really oppose this. Um, and dude, piggybacking off of what Becca said, just real quick, by doing some simple plotting off of Dollar General's, Dollar Trees around Luk, it is roughly the same size as that orange square box. So, in my best guess, I think it'd be something like that. And I really hope we don't do nothing in our area. We moved there four years ago under the assumption that'd be an office district or office or garden homes or garden offices. So, I really am opposing all of this. So, take that in consideration. Thank you. >> Thank you. [applause] >> My name is Megan Zant. I live at 7029 101st Street. And while my home is not in that specific area, I do believe that this still does affect my home and my family. Just to give you guys, I know that we've talked about the culture of our community. Just to give you guys an idea, my 13-year-old one is the one that went around on his scooter to houses to collect people's signatures for the petition. And um while he says it won't affect traffic in our area, I would just like to bring up that Upland is very busy at 5:00. People coming are going to bypass and they're going to go through our neighborhood to get to this store if they're wanting to get to this store. Um, Upland is pretty crowded and there's a there's a sorry, there is a stop sign there and um, we do have access to Upland. You can't see it on the map right there, but there is access to Upland and people will use that access to go through our neighborhood. Um, and like we said, we have kids riding on scooters. We're we're trying to raise kids like they're in the 90s in our neighborhood and we do a pretty good job of it and they're outside a lot and this would um while [clears throat] I am not in the area, this would um I believe affect the safety of my children getting to play outside. Um so we have I will just we have safety, we have property values and the culture and the integrity of our community I believe would be affected. Thank you. >> Thank you. [applause] Anyone else like to speak in opposition? [snorts] >> Good evening. My name is Deborah Hart. I live at 7026 999th Street. I'm Mr. Humble's next door neighbor. Uh when my husband and I purchased our home, we also did so knowing that those lots directly behind our home are garden office zoned. This will not improve the quality of life for anybody in the neighborhood. We don't need it changed. It needs to stay garden office. And I reiterate everything everybody has already said against it. Thank you. >> Thank you. [applause] >> Yes, ma'am. >> Good evening. My name is Tanya Ward. I live at 10304 Saratoga. So, I am further south. Um, I'm in the Garden Home area. Um, the problem that I want you to consider are the traffic issues that we could potentially have. Back when we only have two entrances into our neighborhood. 103rd Street off of Upland and 98th Street at Rochester. Those are the only streets in and out of our addition. Now, back when they were working on expanding 98th Street through Al Cove and Al Cove was shut or 98th Street was shut down at Al Cove, [clears throat] we had horrendous traffic, school traffic down Upland and 98th. parents whose children were living in the Quincy Park edition or anybody coming down uh Upland or 98th Street would come through our neighborhood to bypass the traffic that was backing up on Upland Avenue. So, if you would just consider the traffic implications because we only have two uh streets coming in and out of our neighborhood. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> [applause] >> All right. Anyone else would like to speak in opposition? [clears throat] Come on up. How am I doing [clears throat] again? Uh Shelton Lola 69482nd Street. So again, I'm slightly outside of where they're at right there. Uh traffic is one thing I wanted to bring up. I know it's been touched on, but one thing that no one brought up, so the last bond was supposed to improve roads in that area, that didn't go through, right? So, we're going to continue to have those same problems. Um, with the elementary school, when everybody cuts through, our neighborhood is constantly, you know, ran through by other communities that are trying to avoid that that stop sign right there. Um, another piece of it which homie at the end over here brought up, right, is the the buffer PR principle, right? That's that's in the city's code, right? That that needs to be there and the garden homes I mean garden commu offices are used as that buffer. That's not what that is, right? So, we all bought in this area to have that buffer and not have again the crime and other things [clears throat] that come with normal commercial property that they're looking to put in there. So, again, keep that in mind. Like, if that was your backyard, right? Do you want me to come invite crime into your yard? Cuz I don't want you to do it to mine. So, please keep that in mind. >> Thank you. Anyone [applause] else to speak in opposition to this zoning case? Oh. All right. Anybody want to speak in favor of this zoning case? May I address a few? >> Sure. >> Thanks. Um once again um I am absolutely not trying to withhold information. I have a job. [clears throat] Um the the information that I was given for this is one delivery per week. I worked at a prestigious store called DW Shoes. We got one delivery a week and I can tell you that because guess who got to unpack it? Okay. Um the not saying this is a DW. Nobody get too excited. I love that place. But we also know that this is a 4 to five customer per hour um venue. That's that's what we were given. Four to five per hour. Yes. The peak comes at the same peak as people going home. It's not the school peak. It's when people are going home. That uh alley that is gone across the north side there, the paved alley that um they are rear entry homes. So when they're saying their driveway, do understand that is their driveway they're speaking of. um there will be no access from that driveway or from their alleyway to this site. The only access will be along 98th Street. We also spoke about traffic being a problem on 98th Street. [clears throat] This is part of the solution to traffic on 98th Street. We're going to have to build curb and gutter. We have to do that. It has to be designed. Somebody has to engineer it. This is how it begins. This is part of the solution. Unless you bring something there, 98th Street is up to bond. I mean, it's going to be and you're increasing the amount of money that it's going to take to create 98th Street in the future. The city has done a massive undertaking on putting drainage through there as it is now, but um we we we're hearing the same thing with traffic and safety. We're not impacting we're going to do everything we can not to impact their neighborhood as far as traffic going through. Can I guarantee that personally? Absolutely not. I I don't know the future of what construction looks like. Um, lighting, we we have lighting codes. We have to meet certain things. Architectural has to to conform to what that is, whether that be wall packs or whatever it is. But also keep in mind the lighting is there to prevent crime. That's what it's there for. So if crime's the issue, lighting a lot of times is the answer. This is future use of commercial. It's in the planned use for commercial. Um I I I mean I I'm trying to address everything that somebody brought. Some of these things I I can't address. Um if you want to get back to traffic, um this is an IT code 820 facility. It doesn't change any it doesn't have enough traffic to change signal timing. It doesn't have enough to facilitate a right-hand turn lane or a center turn lane. So this is a low traffic facility. That's what I've got. Appreciate it. And I actually appreciate everybody coming out in opposition as well. I love hearing that, you know, we do affect people and it and it makes a difference. >> Thanks so much. >> All right. Thank you. >> Okay. >> One more thing if you don't mind. >> Okay. Make it quick. >> All right. The deal is >> we bought it supposed to be [clears throat] garden businesses >> and now it's being changed and that's what we don't like there. We can argue about all this other stuff but that's what we asked for when we bought the property. We've been paying taxes ever since. Yeah. Thank you. >> You Thank you. All right. Let's close the public hearing and call for a motion. >> Move to approve. >> Second. >> I got a motion and a second. discussion. >> Um, I'll start the u the sections right be behind the homes I 100% agree should stay like they are. I get 98 streets going to have commercial but that's not a very deep area for to have the proper buffer. Um, if it is what they say it is, we don't know that. There's [snorts] one of these out on 66th. um [clears throat] in Alco, pretty close to Alco and the traffic is way more than five cars per hour. I've tried to go in there at 3:00 in the afternoon and stood in line for 10 minutes to get paid out with three registers. So, um just letting you know that's I'll be voting against this. So, um, someone referenced, uh, the gentleman in the purple shirt, the October 2025 zoning request that we denied. Can you help remind me, uh, which track land that is here on the map? So I believe the property immediately west of this um so at the hard corner with the auto urban commercial and the neighborhood commercial was considered in the fall of 2025. Um, I don't believe this specific portion was part of that request, but the the neighborhood commercial and the auto urban commercial west of this property was approved in the fall of 2025. Or the neighborhood commercial, the auto urban commercial has been there since 2004. >> Okay. So, we did approve the neighborhood commercial immediately to the west. Correct. And that's on the hard corner there. And then it transitions to auto urban. >> Let me switch over. Here we go. So the red on the hard corner is auto urban commercial >> that has been there since 2004. The pink immediately west of the subject property was approved in 2025. >> Thank you. >> Um so what are the setback requirements for this use and landscaping requirements? So the setback requirements will be based on the zoning district. So if the neighborhood commercial zoning were to be approved, there would be a minimum rear setback of 20 ft since it is adjacent to a residential use that is measured from the property line. So then you have the alley in addition to that. Um the minimum side setbacks if you're adjacent to a non-residential use, it could be zero on the west, zero on the east because that's also non-residential. Your front set back to the north will be 25 ft if you have parking in front of the building, 10 if you put parking at the rear of the building. They will be required to have 10% of the property landscaped and permanently maintained. They will have to achieve the required landscaping points based on the size of the building. And they will have to place a buffer yard. Let me tell you exactly how large it will be. There we go. For neighborhood commercial zoning adjacent to the SF2, a minimum of 10 ft in width. That includes the ground cover width of landscaping plus canopy trees. >> And that 10-ft landscaping would uh be included in the setback. Correct. So yes, >> they could do that within that 20 foot setback adjacent to the residential. >> It is required. Yes. And since they are adjacent, the rear property line is adjacent to an alley as the applicant stated they will be required the 7 foot fence as well. >> Thank you. So, um I mean this is in the path of growth. Um it it's just kind of nature of the beast headed this direction. Um 98th Street is just continuing to get busier. I recognize there's concerns around traffic. I I don't think that's the driving force behind my decision on this is traffic. Um, I think it's primarily really just being 20 ft off of someone's backyard. Um, and we know the intended user. It's in the packet, FYI. Um, and so, you know, I think that's why I'll be against this. I agree. I think the office is a good transition. >> I agree with the office as well, especially that the other side is residential. um makes more sense for it to stay office. >> Any other discussion? Anything else? Nope. Okay. Well, we'll call for the vote. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> I apologize there, Scott. I meant to say I'm opposed. >> Okay. So, let's do this again. >> Yeah, >> with a show of hands. >> All those in favor say I and raise your hand. >> Okay. All those opposed say nay. Raise your hand. >> N. [applause] >> That motion fails. Seven to zero. And city council will get a chance at uh reviewing that January 27th to the end. All right. Um, we're going to take a break for five minutes before the next before the next uh monster of a case and let uh >> Oh, okay. We're going to be back at what time is it? 8:38. Come back in 8:30. 8:43. All right, let's uh call this meeting back into session and continue with 3.9 zone case 3540. [snorts] >> Good evening, Mr. Chairman and members of the commission. Zone case 3540 is a little unique. This is the first time we have done something like this. This is a direct result of the recommendations from a zoning map analysis that was completed at the end of last year. So this request is being brought to you from the city of Levik. It is a zone change for about 96 properties total from SF2, MDR, HDR, AC, heavy commercial, industrial park, and light industrial to SF2, AC, IP, LI, and GI. We sent out 798 letters. We received 16 in favor and nine in opposition. This map here is the entirety of District 1. We are not reszoning the entirety of district 1. This was just to give you um a focal point of how how large this district is. It goes all the way to Utah Street to the north, 50th Street to the south, North Udica Avenue to the west, and North Fiddlewood Avenue to the east. So, as I mentioned, this was a result from the comprehensive plan. This all started back in 2017 when we started updating the city's comprehensive plan which had not been updated since 1983 86 1986. And so part of the recommendations in that plan were of course to create the and adopt the unified development code and then do a zoning map analysis when we where we look at all of the properties throughout the city to determine where there are inconsistent patterns, inconsistent zoning with the current land use. Really, it's cleanup cases. And so we contracted with Safeuilt LLC in September 2024 to conduct the zoning map analysis which was created or completed in October of 2025. The analysis examined and identified properties throughout the city where the current zoning did not align with the existing land use adjacent development or future land use plan and they made recommendations in their analysis to reszone these properties. So, starting this month, planning staff will present a total of six separate zone cases with the recommended zone changes from this analysis, grouping properties by city council district, starting with district one tonight. So, here's what that looks like. This is a tenative timeline. So, tonight we'll consider district one. The recommendation from you tonight, we'll go to council January 27th and February 10th. And then we'll start district two next month and so on so forth. Hopefully be completed by the middle of July. Just to give you an idea of the public outreach we did once Safe Bill completed the analysis. We did a media release advertising a town hall online survey and work sessions. August 11th we had an online survey posted on the city website for 15 weeks from August to November. We held a town hall. August 21st work session with your commission September 4th with city council September 23rd and then the notification letters for this zone case were sent to the subject properties and adjacent properties within 400 ft on December 18th 21 days prior to this meeting. State law requires tent. This is just the language from the media release if you wanted to see specifically what I just stated. we advertised. So, we had to break this up into a few different maps because, like I said, about 96 different parcels total. [clears throat] The properties outlined in orange are the properties proposed for reszoning. This is, of course, the aerial. You see the majority of properties in this map are along I27, including the airport. You have additional property south of the airport along Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard and some additional property to the west along Clovis Road and Quaker. There is a small parcel on the north loop west of North University Avenue. Some additional parcels south of Erskin that are actually part of the Canyon Lake system. There's a parcel on East 4th Street just east of North Olive Avenue and some additional parcels at 34th in University and 50th in University. While the analysis studied all of these parcels and there they I will show them all to you on the map tonight. There are a couple where the recommended zoning did not change from the current zoning. So the current zoning along the interstate the majority is currently low density single family SF2. Our airport is zoned low density single family residential. And then you have additional property south of that. The what the majority is zoned industrial park and you have three little parcels. One is zoned lowdensity single family SF2 highdensity residential and auto urban commercial. The small little triangle at the bottom left corner of the map along the north loop west of university is actually part of the Burl Huffman Park but it's zoned industrial. And then the property further south um of the industrial park zoning along Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard is currently lowdensity single family SF2. The recommended zoning for these properties from the analysis the majority of the property along the interstate including the airport is recommended for general industrial zoning. There is one property in red that is recommended for auto urban commercial because it is office space not industrial. The recommended zoning for the properties along Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard are industrial park. Part of that is to align with the existing industrial park zoning immediately adjacent to it. And then I have another map of this, but further south of Erskin Street, you can see that area within the Canyon Lakes is zoned recommended to be downzoned from industrial to single family residential. This is a future land use plan for the properties along the interstate. The majority is industri recommended for industrial land uses. And then you have the airport shown as public semi-public use. [snorts] The current zoning for the properties at North Quaker and Clovis Road is currently low density single family. You can see it is adjacent to some existing light industrial zoning. And then the piece along North Loop next to Burl that is part of Burl Huffman Park is currently zoned general industrial. And let me back up one. The properties on the south side of Clovis Highway. You see there is some currently zoned loaded city single family along with heavy commercial as well. [clears throat] Current zoning for the properties south of Erskin. This is part of the Canyon Lake system and it is currently zoned industrial the majority of it. So the recommended zoning for these areas on the left side of the map near North Quaker and Clovis Road, it is recommended for light industrial zoning that matches a lot of the existing uses out there and adjacent zoning. The piece of Burl Huffman Park is recommended to be downzone to loaden city single family residential along with the Canyon Lake area. Future land use plan shows the area at Quaker and Clovis for industrial land uses. It shows commercial for the corner on North Loop 289. It's possible that property was former formerly part of XFAB which is immediately adjacent to that property that it is no longer. It is city-owned and part of Burl Huffman. And then for the Canyon Lakes area, the future land use plan of course shows it as a park area because that's what it is. The current zoning for parcels at the intersection of 34th and University and 50th and University. You have some highdensity residential and medium density residential. And then you have some highdensity residential and heavy commercial at 50th. the recommended zoning for these. So, of the parcels at 34th and University, three of the four are not recommended for a change. It's only the one at the northeast corner of 34th and University. It's an existing commercial business that is currently zoned medium density residential. So, we're recommending auto urban commercial zoning for that property. And then at the corner of 50th and university also recommending auto urban commercial zoning for those existing commercial properties. The future land use plan shows low density residential and commercial at the 34th and university intersections and then commercial at 50th. The property on East 4th outside of the east loop. The current zoning is lowdensity single family SF2. This property was annexed in 2023. It was a petition annexation from Lita. Recommended zoning is for general industrial. The intent even at the time of annexation was for an industrial project on this property. This is a map showing the 16 responses we have received in favor. There's a lot on this map that we tried to make it a little easier to visualize. The red line is the subject property lines. The blue line is the 400 ft boundary. So you can see some of the responses we received are from properties that we are asking you to reszone. Some are from adjacent properties. [clears throat] I I did separate slides for the opposed because part of it will make a difference. So this first one at 2702 North Quaker Avenue, this is a property currently zoned SF2. We are asking you to reszone to Light Industrial. It is currently used for warehousing. Uh the property owner is opposed to this zone change. And so because he is opposed and sent us written opposition, uh it will require a supermajority vote from city council to approve the the zone change. 2704 North Quaker Avenue. It's a property immediately north of the one I just spoke about. Same situation. The property owner is opposed to our request to reszone it to LI. So, it will require a supermajority vote. 382 North Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard. Again, the property owner is opposed. It will require a supermajority vote. Uh we received an opposition letter from this property owner. Uh this is not part of the zone change. We are not wanting to change this from industrial park. So not part of this request. 21101 East Regis. Again, we are not asking to change this property. These are just adjacent properties. 10903 North Avenue P and then North County Road 2300. The property outlined in blue. Only the front 55 ft of this property is inside city limits. We are not asking to reszone this property, but they are in opposition. They did state they don't want their property annexed. We are not annexing anything with this zone case. The city cannot do involuntary annexations anymore. 8907 North I27. Again, a property that is just adjacent to property we are asking to resone. They are outside city limits, but they sent in a letter that they are in opposition. And finally, 1511 Baylor Street. Again, the property outlined in blue, uh, send in a letter in opposition. We are not asking to reszone this property. It is adjacent to the Canyon Lakes area that we are asking to reszone. With that, we of course recommend approval. We are bringing the request to you and I would be happy to answer any questions. >> So, does this come as all or none? [clears throat] You can do it as all or none or you can remove any properties you would like to vote on separately. >> There's only two that were opposed that were actually being proposed to change. >> Three. >> Three. [snorts] >> So, the two properties here at 2702 North Quaker and 2704, they're right next to each other. And then the property here at 3802 North MLK. What? What? What? What was this? You um Okay. IP. Okay. >> Industrial Park. >> Yeah. [clears throat] >> There's >> including the blue on the north side of Regis. >> It Yeah, it's all considered one parcel. >> Okay. Okay. Any other questions >> for staff and applicant? Okay. If anybody'd like to speak in opposition to this request, please come forward, state your name and address, and say what you want to say. >> I appreciate your time, sir. I just have a question. Uh, if you could go back to that map that shows pretty well the airport runways, >> sir, before we get rolling here, can we get your name and address? >> Jim Teal, uh, 2622 Madison level. >> Got it. Thank you, sir. >> Was it this map? >> Yes, ma'am. Okay. >> Okay. You see where that little red box is right there? Yes, sir. >> All right. Just to the right of it. There's a a clear space there. A little box. >> Just the >> just to the right. That red little red box. >> Um, could you possibly use the mouse to point to it? >> Talking about right here. >> Right there. Okay. Yes. Mhm. >> Are you wanting to do anything with that land? >> No, sir. It is outside city limits and we are not annexing it. >> Okay. Put it on the trust tray. >> We're going to go down. >> It's on that corner. >> Excuse me. I'm not into this >> right here. >> Up. Go up to that. [clears throat] >> No. Up. >> Okay. So, that >> it's just right. Yeah. >> That's right. Kitty corner to the home place. >> Yes. >> So, that that whole box right in there, you're not wanting to do nothing with that. >> No. you received a letter because we are required to send adjacent property owners notice um regardless if they're inside or outside city limits. >> Okay. Love y'all. [laughter] >> Y'all have a great evening. >> So, what what is the pink on the on our maps? >> Come to the >> You have to come to the microphone. [laughter] >> I guess it doesn't matter. >> State your name and address. I'm Kimberly Teal. I live at 95 North MLK. >> Okay. >> I'm in that corner that that little box that he showed. >> Okay. >> So, when we're looking at these maps and it shows that pink area, it's a discolored when you scan in the uh code on the letters that were sent. >> Okay. >> So, that's why we all got hot and bothered because we see all that pink and we're like, "Oh they're going to do something to us." That's all I had to say. >> [laughter] >> Thank you so much. All right. Anybody else want to speak in opposition of this change? >> Come on up. [snorts] >> What's that? >> Yeah. >> Good evening. My name is Calm. I reside at 2914 New here in Lev and I'm speaking in opposition of LC AD ID R37513. Okay. And it's a piece of land off of for I don't see it up here right now that you going to resone. >> Does it have a number address? >> Um Uh there's an address of 4609 East 4 and 451 East 4. >> Okay. [snorts] >> Is it this property here on the map? >> It's on the That's it right there. >> Okay. >> Mhm. I'd like to read from the comprehension plan plan from 2040 plan spotlight east eastern and northern luk neighborhoods eastern and northern luk has not yet seen the demand for redevelopment that has impact I'm reading from my phone so and it's tiny so uh many major cities in Texas giving love with the opportunity to preserve the culture and eastern and northern love as as a plan for the future. Creating a policy to of community development and one important way to achieve this in order to follow the action the following actions are recommended. Number one, create a series of eastern and northern luk master plan. authorized a series of love initiated master plans for eastern and northern love neighborhoods. This plan should include individual vision action [clears throat] plan developed by or in partnership with each neighborhood. The plan should be adopted as an addendum to the comprehension plan. Number two is a disallow expansion of heavy and uh commercial and industrial site uses. This allows expansion of new development of new commercial or industrial site adjacent to downwind or downstream from existing and planned residential development. That is going against the 2040 plan that [clears throat] was adopted by the city of love. We already seen one where you reig on the plane when you put LRO on East 19th Street. It was not supposed to be any other industrial unit built over on the east and northern L. And that's the reason why I'm against that uh area there. Thank you, [snorts] >> Kristen. Just so we That one is going from SF2 to what? >> To general industrial. >> Okay. >> All right. Anyone else would like to speak in opposition? >> Yes, ma'am. >> I wasn't going to say anything. I just I try not to even come to this building. >> [laughter] >> But and and and maybe some decisions that I may have been a part of are haunting me. But I too have concern initially because I thought that that actual parcel of land was in district two. But I was say I was mistaken and so that I know now that is part of district one, but it does not lessen the importance of and the concern in that area. And I know that this was a a piece of property that was annexed by Lita, but I have to go back and and reference some of the the comments I received from citizens in that area when we were looking to uh for leo to come in that area. Those citizens were concerned at that time, but they were willing to say, "Okay, it's going to be further away." However, shifting the the zone from SF what is it FF SF2 right now? Shifting that to light or general industrial is a slap in the face for those citizens who live in that area. Number one, because there's a small slither of land right between some housing areas right there. So whatever you put back there has to pass through those that that little neighborhood there. And even though those housing units are not a part of the city limits, there's still people who live in those uh those residential areas. So I have to stand at this moment and draw on the comments that I was given, you know, years ago and relook at this now and say that that is not a good space to do any type of industrialized building. So I'm against changing that zone from SF. >> Thank you. >> Yes, sir. >> Before you go, could you give us your name and address for the record? We have >> we we know you, but it's recorded. >> Yes, sir. I I must adhere to the requirements of of the meeting. My name is Sheila Patterson Harris. I live at 2303 Birch Avenue here in the great city of Lok, Texas, USA. >> Thank you so much, ma'am. >> It's good to see you. >> Good to be seen. again. Dora Cortez, uh I live at 217 North Avenue O and as executive president of the Northern East Lava Coalition, I also am opposed to the change on this u uh zone case. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> My name is My name is Fabian M. I've been here before. 211 North Avenue. Ma'am, c can you go map go to the map where u around the canyon lakes on Avenue Q both sides is that circular thing? >> So the recommended zoning or current here's the current zoning. >> I want to know it all what what changes are going to be made, what's not going to be made, and what's going to be vested. >> So >> grandfather, >> let's go to the map. Let's go to the map. >> I saw it. So on this map, this is the current zoning. >> No, no, no, no. The one with the little circles on Avenue Q, North Avenue Q, where prein materials is and triple C Khichi is now. >> You were going to turn some residential >> and God knows what you were going to do with the rest. I want to know specifics, please. >> Okay. [snorts] >> Ma'am, you showed it earlier. >> I've seen it. I have a copy at the house. >> I I don't know what I have on North Avenue Q. I mean, this one right here on North Avenue Q. No, you showed it. It was a little circular thing. >> Okay. >> North Avenue, Q, >> East and West Side, >> Erskin Street. >> Mhm. >> The Yellow House Canyon. >> Yep. >> You had the map. >> So, this is the only portion. >> You had a map with a little circle over circle. >> Oh, >> you didn't see that map. >> Was it the notification one? This one. >> Was it this map? We'll go through all the maps. We'll see. >> Sure. >> You showed it earlier. >> So, yeah. >> Well, are are you are you Christian? >> Yes. >> Okay. Uh December 23rd, I sent you an email. >> Okay. >> Specifically asking in 1972 after after the tornado hit, they built the the Lev Lakes. >> Mhm. >> Okay. And the city ordinance city passed an ordinance. I have it here. I think you all have it. I sent an email to you guys. You have it. [clears throat] 6323. Okay, that city ordinance specifically stated that since they're building the love lakes, they're going to have like a little green zone, 15% of it, trees and grass and all that. That ordinance passed. It was signed. I asked you specifically in an email and Mr. Deino, assistant manager, also requested the same information. Nobody responded. I still haven't gotten an answer. Do you know what happened to that 1972 orders? Why was Pervian Basin Materials 401 North Avenue KC Khichi Bedrock Crushing Hardight Materials I think they're McDougall business hard materials Bedrock Crushing Triple C Peran Basin Materials uh and there's a lot more anyway well um Highland Concrete was the one that started it and then u permanent basing materials you know together there's owner there's operator all that so do you know what happened in the 72 or what did it go away the 2018 udc I know in 2009 highland was applying for that plant did it go away in 2009 did zoning people here at that time get rid of that 72 ordinance what happened >> waiting for two weeks now >> I would have to review the specific ordinance but the properties you mentioned I'll give you part of this I sent it to you an email >> the response was in December 23rd you're on vacation, but since then you've been back what, a week or two? Why haven't you? I guess you're very busy. I apologize. Okay, I await the Mr. Dino and I, assistant manager, await the response. Okay, >> so the point is this. You can't find the map that you showed earlier. It doesn't matter in that map. You're you're changing some from this and that and it's very confusing. My question is is per bas in between all the businesses that I mentioned 401 Avenue K North Avenue K 501 North Avenue K uh triple C concrete which doesn't have a permit they're reapplying next to a junior high by the way they should not be allowed to have a concrete plan that's TCQ matter. It should be a city ordinance matter too should be a school district matter too that you allow concrete plant operating that close. >> Did the the new zoning get rid of those businesses to residential? No, I don't believe those properties are part of this case. >> Okay. But it is part of what you all are talking about that part of L. >> Those properties are indist. >> I don't know why you can't find the map that you showed earlier. >> Is it not? I'm wondering if it was the very first map I showed. >> Oh, there it is. There it was. >> Oh, no. No. >> With the lake. >> No, >> the lake in two circles >> representing. That's just a bunch of >> the lake. You just went through it. Oh, there it is. There it is. There. >> It's not. That's where those That's where those >> here's here's the >> businesses are. I live right there across that one right there. The big one. >> Oh, right here. >> Okay. That is of concern to us because it's not very clear. I mean, look look at this. [snorts] Do you all understand all this stuff over here? >> I thought I said I heard that that in the literature I had to read pages and pages that these companies are going to be vested. Is that true? >> I would have to research that to give you an answer. >> You're not prepared for this meeting? Those are not part of the subcase. >> What? >> The the properties you were discussing? >> Yeah. The little circle there are the businesses operating out. I already told you 401. Are they going to remain? >> Those those properties are not part of the zone case. >> What? >> The 401 Avenue K. That property is not part of the zone case. >> 401 North Avenue K. 401 North. There is a little circle there. >> No, they're not part of this case. it. They're not out. >> It's street. >> They may be nearby. >> Well, anyway. Okay. Okay. Okay. Then I want to know the original question. What happened to that door that protected Erskin to the Canyon? Because I think that's in there. Erskin to the Canyon. It may not be, but I thought I saw it. Erskin Street all the way to the canyon uh alongside Avenue K with both sides of Avenue Q. I recommend that you all get rid of perian basin material. Lich call the 4013k that little, you know, in favor of converting the area surrounding the already polluted truck concrete plants. That's not going to be enough for us living nearby. >> Okay. >> So, I recommend you all eliminating. >> Is is PV materials part of this at all? >> No. >> Okay. >> I thought it is not in there. >> No, it's not. So, let's move on. If you've got something you want to talk about the zoning >> that's actually zoning other than just complaining about what's in the neighborhood. >> No, I thought that's in the neighborhood. That's North Avenue Q. That's Clovis Highway. That's a Canyon Lake. Okay. >> I live right next to the Canyon Lake. >> All right. >> So you you when will you send me that information? Anyway, when was that ordinance changed? It's right in that area. 1972. Right by the Canyon Lakes. First came to that's where PBM is right now. Could we maybe recommend that that be taken offline after this public hearing and that you consult with Kristen after hours through email or come up to the office? >> I agree. Yeah, we need to find out. >> Thank you. >> And I have I just have a couple of other things. >> Okay. Do they pertain to a zoning case or just a general satisfaction? >> Oh, no. It's it's zoning. Yeah, it's specific. >> Okay. Let me get >> If you're unhappy with PV materials, I understand. But that's not that's not part of the zoning. >> Yeah, it's right there. Oh, I understand. >> Okay. This is what I recommend. Moving or reszoning heavy industrial industries for minority neighborhoods to address historic segregation and promote environmental justice involves a combination of legal planning and community engagement strategies at the local, state, and federal levels. We got to integrate environmental justice into zoning. explicitly incorporate environmental justice principles into zoning regulations to consider and mitigate the potential negative impacts of industrial activities on vulnerable populations like the two concrete plants near my house. You got to implement stricter standards that would be zoning and I mean enforcement and [snorts] all that uh enforce stricter environmental standards but you got to realize that it all starts with you guys. zoning and planning. What you dump out there starts with you guys and then we go to enforcement. Then we go to the city council, but it's you guys, >> right? >> And then I'm making a recommendation. Prohibit incompatible land uses a ban zoning code zoning codes to specifically ban new industrial uses deemed incompatible with nearby residential areas. Clearly what we're addressing today, this can involve passing stand alone bans on particular land uses. Uh like in Baltimore they have a green zone initiative. Uh this is going on all over the country. Country country mandate community engagement mandate require robust and inclusive community. I didn't get some of those letters by the way. I think my neighbor got one. And then uh zoning variance reszoning. Land owners or developers can request zoning changes or exceptions through a formal process. We can do legal challenges. Not a problem. Communities can challenge existing zoning laws in court if they are deemed discriminatory or otherwise illegal using civil right civil rights and fair housing laws. And we can do eminent domain. The city can take over the concrete polluting plants near my house. Uh to purchase polluting factories within green zone boundaries. You can provide incentives for relocation and mitigation. offer incentives for industries to relocate to designated non-residential industrial zones or to adopt cleaner technologies and stricter environmental controls. By the way, I'm not familiar with Mr. Walker. If y'all think that y'all are enforcing this the ordinances, that's not happening very well. Neither is TCQ. >> Okay. >> I remember a quote that said >> I'm going to I'm going to stop you there. Okay. If you're just going to heir your grievances against PB materials and and tell us how we're not doing our job right, you know. >> Well, yeah, you ought to allow that stuff there. Yes. >> Well, I appreciate it. If you have something >> you haven't answered the question. >> Okay. Thank you so much. >> We'll address you. >> Okay. Anybody else like to talk speak against the zoning case? [snorts] >> Nope. Okay. Anybody like to speak in favor of this zony? >> Okay. Thank you, John. >> All right. >> Uh Kristen, would you mind um going to the property there kind of by LRO off of fourth and >> state your name and address? >> John Osborne. Uh uh for love economic development all 1500 Broadway. Uh the the big property that's uh currently in yellow there, north of the darker gray, that darker gray area is the northern boundary of Lino. Um on um uh uh east 19th between east 19th and 14th >> the southern >> Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. The the south of Fourth Street, that northern gray area or that darker gray area is part of LRO. And when we um were purchasing property for that LRO project, um this property that's currently in yellow was one of the subject properties that we purchased. The the property that's in white that's just to the east of that is uh some additional property that we purchased um so that we could try to do the the LRO project. The Lino project actually evolved over time and where they were going to do land application with their excess water. We eventually convinced them to instead clean that water to stream quality and put it in a pipe that would take it to Lake Six, meaning they didn't need nearly as much land as what they were going to originally need. So, um that land that's in yellow was outside the city limits. Uh but because we try to do projects that are inside the city limits to have greater impact on our community and bring tax dollars to our our uh our city, we had asked for this yellow property to be annexed. So the property was not zoned at all. We purchased it, had it annexed, and because it came in under transitional during the change in the UDC code, it switched to single family residential. was never meant to be single family residential um before. Um there it was just um crop land. It's mostly uh CRP land I should say, excuse me. And um currently we're having some challenges over near the neighborhoods where people are just dumping um uh old mattresses and and TVs and chairs and things over there. Um we're in the process of um getting someone to come clean it up and to help get it fenced so to reduce the amount of trash that's come getting left there. And but our ultimate um hope is to have um a industrial uh type project that would be over there that would be uh similar to um something like LRO where there's not excess gas or noise or challenges that would be affecting those neighbors. a company that might locate on that property is not going to want to um cause problems for their neighbors. They're going to want to be a good um business citizen over there and otherwise they would not choose to locate in that uh location at all. Uh but that was the original intent of what we were doing with that property and um if this is meant to be single family residential that it's not a property that Lita could actually do anything with. Happy to answer any questions. questions. >> That little sliver goes right down between residential neighborhood. >> There's two slivers there. Um, one goes right down on that west side. I'm going to call it the very minor uh uh west sliver. And there's some pipelines that go up through there. I think that's why it was part of the track. We didn't acquire it. It it was part of the track when we acquired the track. Um there was a second uh piece that in order for us to have actually road access and to um have additional pipeline access when we were working the pro the LRO project, we purchased the uh more thick uh square that's to the east of that real thin one uh that touches Fourth Street. Um Dollar General, I believe, has a location uh on on I want to say it's on the east side of that big um the the thicker part. Is it the west side? It's that corner there. >> Yes, that's right. That's right. Sorry, it's the west side. And um and so our intent was to be able to to have uh any traffic that needed to come up into the site to to come up through the thicker one. I have no reason to keep the thinner one at all. Um and uh there's no way to develop it. It's like I can't remember 10 or 15 feet wide. And it's I think it's mostly for a pipeline that kind of goes up through there. Any other questions? >> All right. Thanks, John. >> Great. Thank you. >> Anyone else like to speak in favor of this request? >> All right. So, let's close the public hearing and call for a motion. >> Move to approve. >> Second. >> Move. Motion to approve and the second discussion. I guess is there any property to make it easy that anyone's wanting to take out? [clears throat] >> So, carve it out. Carve it out or vote on it as a home. >> Maybe we take out the uh Fourth Street sign just an endeavor to pull that one out and uh vote on that separate. >> 4609 East 4th Street. might be my recommendation. [snorts] >> What What is it? What is the per zoning on that? Live industrial. That little that little the yellow slipper >> this property here. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Uh it's recommended for general industrial. >> General take it out. >> Carve it out. Don't carve it out. >> Do that for the motion. [clears throat] >> Mr. Chairman, >> if I might, there there are a couple different approaches you could you could do for this. You could either uh divide your question basically and sever out and have two votes, >> two votes, >> two parts. >> Or you could have a motion to amend what you have to remove that, you know, as as your first question. And then depending on whether that's successful or not, you would have a vote on the underlying motion either with or without it depending on the [snorts] result of the first vote. >> They both get you to the same spot, I think, but I I can't recommend one over the other. Just >> All right. So, let's uh I need an amendment to the motion. I'll make a uh recommendation to amend the current motion to remove the property at 4609 Fourth Street from the current motion. >> Okay. Second on the amendment. >> Second. >> Okay. We have a motion to remove [clears throat] to carve out this one property from the original motion >> and a second. Is that correct? On East Fourth Street. >> Okay. All in favor say I. >> I. >> All opposed. >> I. >> Okay. Uh 6 to one. >> I'm on the amendment. Yes. So now you're back to motion. >> Okay. So now now we're voting >> plus this property. >> Yeah. So now we're voting the original zone case minus without the East 4th Street property. >> Okay. Yep. >> So I need a motion on that one. >> Motion to approve. I'll second >> and a second. All in favor say I. >> I. >> All oppose. Nay. Okay. So, the motion to approve all zoning changes without Fourth Street consideration is approved. Okay. >> Okay. So, now we need a motion to we need a motion for Fourth Street. >> You're right. There is two. >> Okay. >> Okay. Can I get a motion for >> I move. >> Yeah. >> Motion to approve. >> Motion and a second. >> Okay. So, this the motion is to approve the lead industrial no general industrial zoning change for the property on East 4th Street. It's a motion in the affirmative. All in favor say I. >> All oppose say nay. Nay. >> And it fails. 0 to 7. [snorts] Okay. All right. >> Okay. So, now that there's that. All right. Uh, so now we're going to move on to our last that's it for the regular meeting. We'll move on to close the public meeting. Thank you. and we'll move on to other business items. Other businesses to elect a chair and a vice chair for 2026. Do you have any volunteers, nominations, recommendations? >> James would like to remain chair. >> Okay. >> And I would like to recommend nominate Car for vice. >> Okay. So, we're vote on those separately. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So the the the uh for nomination for chair is James. >> Anyone else >> to continue? I'm good. >> Does everybody give me that? >> Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm good. Uh no, I'm fine. >> I'm heartbroken. Um okay, so if I could get a So James is nominated. Can I get a a vote for [clears throat] uh James? All in favor say I. >> I. I. All opposed. Same sign. James is chair for 2026. And [clears throat] we have a we have a [snorts] uh a nomination for TK to be the vice chair. >> And I nominate Scott. >> Oh, and me. >> Okay. So, now we got >> I got election. >> Now, y'all didn't give me a chance to lobby for T. So, [laughter] >> all right. So, >> now we >> Now we vote for that. So, uh, Tar and myself have been nominated for vice chair. All in favor of Tar say I. >> I. >> I. >> There's There's two. >> All in favor of me say I. >> I. >> I. >> There's recused. >> You recused. [laughter] >> I recused. >> Oh, you did. >> Yeah. This is >> Okay, let's do it again. >> Okay. All in favor of t say I. >> I. Okay. >> You didn't want to do zero. [laughter] >> We didn't do yours. >> Why? >> Don't have to. >> But I appreciate the nomination. I reclined. I I declined to accept me to it. >> It's very good. >> I I love doing it once. And the uh it is uh according to this 9:32 meetings adjourned.