City Council Meeting - August 8, 2022
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IN A ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PRELIMINARY AGENDAS IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION RESULTING FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. THERE WILL BE NONE. OUR NEXT ITEM IS COMPREHEIVE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR JUNE, 2022. MS. TACKE? >> TACKE: GOOD EVENING. I'M THE FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF PLANO. I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE COMPREHENSIVE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR JUNE OF 2022, AND OUR NINE MONTH MARK GETTING INTO THE YEAR. SO THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS OUR REVENUES COMPARED TO THE BUDGET BY FUND. THE GENERAL FUND HAS REVENUE THAE TOTAL ANNUAL BUDGET. THE WATER AND SEWER FUND HAS 127.2 MILLION IN REVENUES, WHICH REPRESENTS -- (INDISCERNIBLE). I DON'T HAVE A SUPER LOUD VOICE, BUT CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? BETTER? (CHUCKLES). >> OUR SPEAKERS AREN'T WORKING HERE AT THE DAIS, SO WE'RE HAVING TROWBILITY TROUBLE HEARINGYOU. SO JUST LEAN A LITTLE BIT TOWARD THE MIC AND WE'LL FIGHT THROUGH IT. >> OKAY. LET ME TRY AND SEE IF I CAN GET A LITTLE BIT LOUDER T WATER AND SEWER FUND HAS 127.2 MILLION IN REVENUES. THAT REPRESENTS 72.4% OF THE TOTAL ANNUAL BUDGET. HERE WE HAVE OUR EXPENDITURES COMPARED TO BUDGET BY FUND. THE GENDER FUND HAS EXPENDITURES OF 193.3 MILLION FOR THE FIRST NINE MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR. THIS REPRESENTS 65.9% OF THE TOTAL ANNUAL BUDGET. THE WATER AND SEWER FUND HAS EXPENDITURES OF 97.7 MILLION, WHICH REPRESENTS 69.1% OF THE TOTAL ANNUAL BUDGET. THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS OUR NET CHANGE IN FUND BALANCE FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS. IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE FIRST FISCAL -- THE FIRST NINE MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR, THE FUND BALANCE HAS INCINCREASED BY 46.3 MILLION. THIS IS TRENDING ABOVE WHERE WE WERE AT AT THE SAME TIME THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR, A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH ARPA FUNDING AND THINGS THAT HAVE COME IN THIS YEAR T WATER AND SEWER FUND BALANCE HAS DECREASED BY 1.4 MILLION. THIS IS A BETTER POSITION THAN WE WERE IN THE PRIOR YEAR. IT'S NOT REALLY WHERE WE WANT TO BE IN THE THE WATER AND SEWER FUND RIGHT NOW, BUT WE ARE LOOKING A LITTLE BETTER THAN WE WERE AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR. THE ENVIRONMENTAL WASTE SERVIC FUND HASECREASED BY 2.8 MILLION, AND THE MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE FUND HAS INCREASED BY 64,000. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE ACTUALS COMPARED TO THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR, WE'RE UP BY $14.5 MILLION. OUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE ACTUALLY SOMEWHAT FLAT COMPARED TO THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR, BUT OUR SALES TAX REVENUE HAS COME IN STRONG THIS YEAR, AND HAS INCREASE BID 11.9 MILLION OVER THE FIRST NINE MONTHS OF THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR. THERE WAS ALSO AN INCREASE IN BUILDING PERMIT REVENUE, OF 2.1 MILLION, AND FRANCHISE FEES OF 1.1 MILLION, SEVERAL OTHER CATEGORIES OF REVENUE SHOWED A REBOUND FROM THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR, AND THESE WERE ALL OFFSET BY DECREASE INTEREST INCOME, AND WHAT CAUSED THAT IS THE MARK TO MARKET ADJUSTMENT REQUIRED BY GOVERNMENTAL COUNTING PERCENTAGE BOARD, STATEMENT NUMBER 31, AND THOSE ARE UNREALIZED LOSSES WHICH WE WON'T -- WE WILL NEVER REALIZE THEM BECAUSE WE ALWAYS POLLED OUR INVESTMENTS TO THE MATURITY IN THE PORTFOLIO. OUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES ARE HIGHER THAN THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR BY 4.5 MILLION. PERSONNEL COST INCREASE BY 6.9 MILLION, DUE TO THE 3% SALARY ADJUSTMENT EFFECTIVE IN OCTOBER OF 2021. LAST YEAR'S PERSONNEL COSTS WERE OFFSET BY CARES FUNDING. THIS YEAR'S PERSONAL -- PERSONNEL COSTS ARE OFFSET BY ARPA FUNDING. COST FOR MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES INCREASE BID 12 MILLION, SO WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE THE EFFECTS OFHE INFTION ON THESE COST, SO IT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP AN EYE ON, AND OUR CONTRACTUAL AND PROFESSIONAL FEES INCREASED BY 3.4 MILLION DUE TO HIGHER INFORMATION SERVICE CHARGES AND INCREASED FUEL CHARGES. AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR THAT ONE. OUR HEALTH CLAIMS FUND HAD A DECREASE IN FUND BALANCE OF ABOUT 7.9 MILLION COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. THIS IS MOSTLY DUE TO AN INCREASE IN EXPENSES. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS THE LAST COUPLE OF QUARTERS. WE SAW THIS WHERE PPLE WERE NOT GOING TO THE DOCTOR AND THEN THEY STARTED TO GO AFTER POST COVID, OUR HEALTH EXPENSES HAVE JUST GONE PRETTY HIGH. OUR POLICY IS TO KEEP SIX MONTHS OF CLAIMS PLUS OUR IBNR IN THE FUND BALANCE, AND THAT IS ABOUT WHETHER WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ABOUT A $12 MILLION FUND BALANCE, BUT RIGHT NOW OUR FUND BALANCE IS AT .7 MILLION. SO WE HAVE INCREASED THE EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTIONS STARTING IN MARCH, AND THERE WILL BE PREMIUM INCREAES NEXT PLA YEAR.EES IN OUR OUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATES IN MARCH WERE UP 2.8%, AND THEY HAVE INCREASED TO 3.3% IN JUNE. OUR SALES TAX IS STILL A VERY GOOD STORY IN THE MONTH OF JULY. IT WAS UP COMPARED TO THE PRIOR YEAR BY 17.1%. REAL ESTATE MARKET CONTINUES TO BE STRONG, THE NUMBER OF DAYS ON THE MARKET WAS 12 IN MARCH, THIS COMPARED TO 15 IN JUNE, SO THERE ISN'T A T OF CHANGE. THE PERCENT OF ASKING WAS 110% IN MARCH, DECREASED SLIGHTLY TO 107% IN JUNE. THIS IS THE MOST I'VE SEEN IT STAY OVER 100% LIKE CONSISTENTLY FOR MONTHS SO -- AND THEN OUR MEDIAN SELLING PRICE FOR HOME WAS 540 COMPARED TO 570,000 IN JUNE, KEEP IN MIND THAT IS MEDIAN, NOT MEAN, BECAUSE WE GOT DIFFERENT DATA SET, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE WAY WE USED TO LOOK AT IT. SO YOU'RE SEEING THAT PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT IS INCHING UP A LITTLE BIT AS WELL. HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX IS UP BY 3.2 MILLION COMPARED TO THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR, INDUSTRY CONTINUES TO IMPROVE. AND THEN OUR EQUITY AND TREASURY POOL OF COURSE THAT'S OUR INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO, WHAT FUNDS REALLY HOLD ALL OF THOSE INVESTMENTS. OF COURSE OUR LARGEST ONE IS GOING TO BE CAPITAL PROJECTS. HAD THIS MONTH IN PARTICULAR, WE RECEIVED ALL OF THOSE BOND PROCEEDS, AND SO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS IS OVER A THIRD OF WHAT OUR EQUITY AND TREASURY POOL IS. FOLLOWED BY ENTERPRISE FUNDS WHICH IS WATER AND SEWER AND MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE, AND THEN THE GENERAL FUND. AND THEN OUR PORTFOLIO BOOK VALUE IS NOW AT 764.8 MILLION, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TIMING OF OUR MATURITIES IS SPREAD OUT SO THAT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE LIQUIDITY THAT WE NEED IN THE PORTFOLIO. AND THEN OUR DIVERSIFICATION, OF COURSE WE'RE ALWAYS VERY DIVERSIFIED, WE CANNOT HAVE MORE THAN 50% OF ANY ONE TYPE OF INVESTMENT IN THE PORTFOLIO, AND OUR MUNI INVESTMENTS ARE AT 45.73%, WE'RE PULLING BACK ON THOSE AND TRYING TO PICK AUTOPSY COUPLE OF DIFFERENT INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES OF COURSE OF COURSE OUR INVESTMENTS ARE BACKED BY THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, SO THEY'RE ALWAYS VERY SAFE INVESTMENTS. AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, DENISE. NIANY -- ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARD TO HER PRESENTATION? >> TACKE: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSION, DIRECTION REGARDING THE STREAM BANK STABILIZATION PROGRAM. CALEB? >> THORNHILL: ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, CALEB THORNHILL, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING. I HAVE WITH ME TONIGHT ALLISON SMITH, AND RUSSELL ERSKIN FROM OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AND WE WANTED TO FOLLOW-UP ON OUR DISCUSSION BACK IN MARCH OF THE STREAM BANK STABILIZATION PROGRAM WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE. IF YOU WILL RECALL, THAT MEETING WAS MARCH 28, PRELIMINARY OPEN. WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING SOME CONCERNS FROM CITIZENS, PARTICULARLY FOR PRIVATE PROPERTIES, AND SO WE HAD HAD A DISCUSSION HERE, YOU GUYS HAD SEVERAL QUESTIONS. WE'VE GONE BACK AND DONE A LITTLE BIT OF DUE DILIGENCE, WANTED TO PRESENT THAT INFORMATION TO YOU TONIGHT. PART OF THAT WILL BE DISCUSSING WHAT SOME OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES DO FOR THEIR STREAM BANK STABILIZATION. WE'LL TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT SOME ALTERNATIVES AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THOSE DEPENDING ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. SO FIRST WE PUT TOGETHER A TABLE AND WE TRIED TO PUT THIS TABLE TOGETHER ABOUT THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT WAYS, AND THIS IS WHAT THE RESULT WAS, BUT ESSENTIALLY, ANYWHERE YOU SEE AN ASTERISK IS A CAVEAT, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY. SO WHAT YOU WILL SEE THERE IS THE ENTITIES OR CITIES THERE ON THE LEFT, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE PRIVATE PROPERTY/HOA RESPONSIBILITY, AND WHETHER THE CITY OR PROVIDES ANY ASSISTANCE FOR THOSE DIFFERENT ENTITIES, AND THEN SOME NOTES THERE. SO OBVIOUSLY, WE TALKED ABOUT PLANO LAST TIME T CURRENT ORDINANCE AND DRAINAGE MANUAL, THE WAY WE DO NOT PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY, OR HOA; HOWEVER, THERE'S AN ASTERISK MEANING IF IT SHOWS UP ON THE PLAT THAT THE MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY IS NOT NAMED, WHO THAT IS IN THE CITY TAKES CARE OF THAT. SO MOST OF OUR PLATS INDICATE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE, IF IT'S AN HOA OR THE PROPERTY OWNER, IT'S VERY CLEAR. YEARS PRIOR TO THAT, THOUGH, IT DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING, AND WHEN WE HAVE THOSE CASES, WE TAKE THE MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT. THE CITY OF DALLAS, AGAIN, THEIR ORDINANCE CURRENTLY STATES THAT THEY DID NOT PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY OR HOA; HOWEVER, THERE'S AN ASTERISK, BECAUSE THEY WILL INCLUDE PROPERTIES -- PRIVATE PROPERTIES IF IT'S A PART OF A LARGER PROJECT. SO IF THEY'RE DOING A EROSION PROTECTION FOR A LARGE SECTION OF STREAM, AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES THAT NEED ASSISTANCE THROUGH THERE, THEY WILL INCLUDE THAT, SO, AGAIN, THEY'VE GOT AN ASTERISK THERE. RICHARDSON IS, AGAIN, NO, NO, HOWEVER, THERE'S AN ASTERISK, THEY HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE IF THE CITIZEN PAYS $5,000, THEY WILL PROVIDE ASSISTANCE, AND THE COMMERCIAL, THEY HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE IT'S 50-50, STIGHT A LOOKED AT THE ORDINANCE, THEY SAY THEY DO NOT DO IT, BUT OUR STAFF HAS COORDINATED WITH THEM DIRECTLY, AND THEY DO PROVIDE SOME ASSISTANCE. GARL IS A YES AND YES. THEY PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO PRIVATE PROPERTY AND HOAs, HOWEVER, THEY HAVE A PROGRAM, THAT'S A COAST SHARING, SO THE NONRESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL IS A 3367, ONE THIRD, TWO THIRD, THE CITY PAYS ONE THIRD, THE COMMERCIAL PAYS TWO-THIRDS, AND RESIDENTIAL IS A 50-50. THERE'S ANOTHER ASTERISK HERE FOR GARLAND, BECAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE HIGHER DRAINAGE FEES FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE ALONG WATERWAYS, AND THAT -- IN TALKING WITH THEIR STAFF, APPARENTLY THEY'RE TRYING TO MOVE AWAY TWR FROM THAT, BUT THAT IS THE WAY THEY CURRENTLY OPERATE. FRISCO, NO ASTERISK, A NO AND A NO, THEY DO NOT PROVIDE ANY ASSISTANCE, BUT THEY HAVE PERFORMED AT AN EXTENSIVE STREAM BANK STUDY FOR THEIR ENTIRE SYSTEM. WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN A FEW MINUTES. McKINNEY IS NO TO NO, THEY HAVE AN ASTERISK, AS THEY'VE GOT IN THEIR DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY WILL CONSIDER -- WILL CONSIDER IF IT IS A SAFETY CONCERN, A LIFE SAFETY CONCERN. AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE THE CONCERN WE HAVE ON THAT IS THE SAFETY AND HOW YOU DEFINE THAT. ARLINGTON WAS A NO AND A NO. SO I WANTED TO DO A REAL BRIEF CASE STUDY SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO CONSIDER. THE PARTIALLY AREA YOU SEE THERE IN ALL BLUE IS ONE THAT IS ACTUALLY -- WE HAVE -- WE HAVE LOOKED AT, AND IN ORDER FOR US TO EVALUATE, AND AGAIN, THESE ON THE INDIVIDUAL PARCELS,ED ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER, IF WE ARE GOING TO DO IMPROVEMENTS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT WITH THE CURRENT RULES THAT ARE IN PLACE. SO FOR INSTANCE, IN THIS LOCATION, WHAT WE WOULD LIKELY HAVE TO DO IS BISECT THAT PROPERTY, SO THE RED WOULD THEN BE OWNED BY THE CITY OF PLANO, BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY OF PLANO, THE YELLOW OR THE GREENISH COLOR WOULD STILL BE OBVIOUSLY OWNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF THAT, THAT ALLOWS US THEIGHT TO PUT IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT PROPERTY NOW SINCE WE OBVIOUSLY OWN IT, BUT WHAT THAT NOW DID YOU IS CREATE CONFORMANCE ISSUES WITH THE ZONING. THIS LOT BASED ON THE CURRENT ZONING HAS TO HAVE A 9,000 MINIMUM SQUARE FOOT, IT EXCEEDS THAT, BUT NO LONGER MEETS THE REAR SETBACK OR THE LOT DEPTH FOR THIS, SO IT WOULD BE CHALLENGES DEPENDING AGAIN ON THE C CASE-BY-CASE BASIS, BUT THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE, ONE TO SHOW THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT. I MENTIONED THE STUDY THAT FRISCI WON'T READ ALL OF THIS. I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF TEXT, AND I HATE SEEING SLIDES WITH TONS OF TEXT, BUT I WANTED TO INCLUDE IT IN YOUR PACKET. A COUPLE OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE DONE THIS ASSESSMENT STUDY, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE, AND FOR THE CITY OF PLANO. NOW, IT IS VERY EXTENSIVE, IT IS A THREE YEAR PROCESS. THEY CAN ONLY TAKE ASSESSMENT DURING THE WINTER. OBVIOUSLY LESS FOLIAGE, SO THEY HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE EROSION CONCERNS. WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 120 MILES OF CREEK, SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHY IT DOES TAKE UPWARDS OF THREE YEARS. THIS WOULD BE A COLLABORATIVE, SHOULD SHARE THEE RESULTS WITH PUBLIC WORKS, PARTS, THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. THE CONSULTANT WOULD DO A STUDY AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE SHOWED YOU LAST TIME, FROM A STREAM BANK STABILIZATION, THEY WOULD PERFORM A SCORE SHEET FOR EVERY PARCEL THROUGHOUT THE CITY. OBVIOUSLY, WE DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND HAVING A CONSULTANT ASSIST US WITH THIS. BUT WHAT THAT WOULD DO, IT WOULD GIVE US A DATABASE, AND I THINK COUNCILMEMBER TU MENTIONED THIS LAST TIME, HOW EXTENSIVE IS OUR ISSUE WITH STREAM BANK IN THE CITY, AND RIGHT NOW, HONESTLY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. OUR PROGRAM IS 100% REACTIVE. IF A CITIZEN CALLS, WE GO OUT, WE DO AN EVALUATION. WE MAY LOOK UPSTREAM, DOWNSTREAM, ACROSS THE STREAM TO DETERMINE THAT, BUT THAT'S THE EXTENT OF OUR PROGRAM, AND THIS WOULD ESSENTIALLY GIVE US A CITYWIDE HOW EXTENSIVE OUR EROSION CONCERNS ARE. AND AGAIN, IT WOULD HELP US PLANNING FOR THOSE CIP PROJECTS AND BUDGETING IN THE FUTURE. THE LAST SLIDE IS ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT. THE FIRST ONE AGAIN IS THAT ASSESSMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. IT IS IN A THREE YEAR PROCESS, IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, TO HAVE A THREE YEAR PROJECT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING BECAUSE BEYOND THAT -- EVEN WITH THE CASE STUDY THAT I SHOWED YOU, WITHOUT KNOWING THE EXTENT OF THAT EROSION THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WE DON'T -- AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE AN EDUCATED ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE BUDGET IMPACTS MAY BE, BUT AGAIN, THERE ARE SO MANY FACTORS THAT IMPACT THAT, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE TOOLS AT THIS POINT TO DEVELOP WHAT EVEN THE BUDGET REQUESTS WOULD BE FROM COUNCIL. WE KNOW THAT YOU WOULD LIKELY HAVE TO IMPACT DRAINAGE RATE, INCREASE THOSE. WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHAT THE STAFF REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE TO TRY TO MAINTAIN SOME TYPE OF PROGRAM, AND OBVIOUSLY, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY YEARS YOU WANT TO DO IT, HOW MY PJECTS WE NEED TO DO IN A YEARLY BASIS, BUT THAT ASSESSMENT WILL PROVIDE THE DATA SO WE CAN HAVE THAT PROGRAM AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH WHAT WE FEEL LIKE WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT, THE LIFE SAFETY AGAIN THAT McKINNEY MODEL IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE CONSIDERED. AGAIN, THE CHALLENGE YOU FACE WITH THAT IS HOW YOU DEFINE SAFETY. IF YOU HAVE A TEN, FIFTEEN, TWENTY FOOT DROP OFF ADJACENT TO A BEDROOM WINDOW, THAT SEEMS VERY CLEAR TO BE A LIFE SAFETY, BTF IT'S NEXT TO A GARAGE, IF IT'S NEXT TO A POOL, IF IT'S NEXT TO A GAZA SEE BOW, IF IT'S AT THE END OF YOUR PROPERTY, EVERYBODY IS GOING TO SEE THAT DIFFERENTLY AS FAR AS HOW THEIR PROPERTY IS SAFE. .SO THAT IS A STRUGGLE TO SAY THAT WE'LL PROVIDE THAT ASSISTANCE BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS GOING TO FEEL LIKE, WELL, THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE FOR MY PROPERTY. THE OTHER ONE WE DID TALK ABOUT IS PROVIDING ASSISTANCE FOR PRIVATE PROPERTIES AND HOAs, AGAIN, THIS WILL HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT TO THE CURRENT DRAINAGE FEE, IF WE ADOPT THAT --OMEORT OF POLICY LIKE THAT. PROVIDE THAT ASSISTANCE WILL INCREASE THE RATES FOR, AGAIN, THOSE PROPERTIES, CITIZENS, AND HOA CURRENTLY, THE REVENUE FROM THE DRAINAGE FEE IS ABOUT A 50-50 SPLIT BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, AND IF WE DID SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, IT WOULD JUST INCREASE THE RESIDENTIAL, SINCE WE'RE NOT INCREASING FOR COMMERCIAL AS WELL. COST SHARE PROGRAM, AGAIN, MENTIONED GARLAND EARLIER, THEY'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THIS, AND AGAIN, SOME OF THESE PRECTS ARE EXTENSIVE, UPWARDS OF SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, EACH A FIFTY-FIFTY COST SHARE PUTS A HUGE BURDEN ON THE PROPERTY OWNER. THE LAST ONE I PUT ON, WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, WHICH -- BUT IT IS WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. SO WITH THAT, I BELIEVE THAT'S MY LAST SLIDE, AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS UNLESS LISA THERE'S SPEAKERS. >> Mayor Muns: THAT'S OKAY. LET'S ASK THE QUESTIONS, GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER SMITH. >> Smith : THANK YOU, MAYOR. CALE GOOTO S YOU. YEAH, I THINK THE PLANNING AND THE LOOK IN THE CATALOG, POTENTIAL AREAS OF PROBLEMS THAT CAN COME UP LATER IS A GREAT IDEA. THAT'S A GREAT LONG-TERM STRATEGY. I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, WE DO WANT TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE AREAS, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MAY HAVE A POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACT COMING NOW THAT WE HEARD ABOUT MARCH. ONE THING I WANT TO REMEMBER, I THINK I'D ASK IF WE COULD TO TAKE A LOOK AT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD I BELIEVE WITH THE INDIAN, OR THE HILLS OF INDIAN CREEK WAS KIND OF OPEN AS TO WHETHER THE PLAT, IT WAS OUR RESPONSIBILITY OR THEIR RESPONSIBILITY WHATEVER AND WHAT I SUGGESTED IS IF IT'S UNCLEAR WITH THIS PARTICULAR AREA TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY TO TAKE THAT OVER. DID WE GET A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT ANYMORE, IF SO, WHAT DID YOU COME UP WITH? >> THORNHILL: IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, INDIAN CREEK, VERY CLEAR ON THEIR PLAT WHO THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY IS. IT'S THE HOA'S RESPONSIBILITY. WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THAT AREA, AND THAT BLOCK, IS THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THAT CHANNEL IS THE CITY OF PLANO'S RESPONSIBILITY, SO IT'S ONE OF THESE HYBRID ESSENTIALLY SITUATIONS PLANO HAS RESPONSIBILITY, AND HAS DONE PROJECTS IN YEARS PAST, VERSUS THE OTHER SIDE WHERE IT'S THE HOA'S RESPONSIBILITY. WHAT WILL BE A CHALLENGE WITH THAT IS WE HAVE DONE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH OR RIEW OF THAT AREA, ALLISON'S BEEN OUT THERE WITH SEVERAL MEMBERS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA, AND WE HAVE WALKED THROUGH, WE ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER A VERY BRIEF REPORT, I SAY BRIEF, IT WAS ABOUT 100-SOME PAGES AND WALKED PROPERTY BY PROPERTY. THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT AREA IS CURRENTLY A LOT OF THOSE AREAS DON'T -- THEY -- WELL, THEY MEET THE EROSION CONTROL CRITERIA, THEY DO NOT RANK HIGH ENOUGH TO INITIATE A PROJECT AT THIS POINT. SO EVEN IF THAT AREA WAS INCLED Y WOULD BE TOWARD THE BOTTOM OF THAT LIST. AND WITH THIS ASSESSMENT, AGAIN, PROBABLY SIMILAR, THERE'S AREAS THAT WE JUST ARE NOT AWARE OF, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, WATER, SEWER DRAINAGE PIPE INFRASTRUCTURE BRIDGES WHATEVER IT IS, THAT MAY TAKE A HIGHER PRIORITY THAT'S WHAT IS ON OUR CURRENT LIST, SO THAT WOULD BE AN AREA THAT WOULD LIKELY FALL IN THAT CATEGORY, CURRENTLY GOT 30, AND I THINK ALLISON, YOU SAID WHEN FRISCO DID THEIR STUDY, THEIR LIST DOUBLED OR TRIPLED. 54. FOR SEVERE EROSION. SO IT NEEDED IMMEDIATE ADDRESS. SO THE AREAS THAT WE HAVE EVALUATED, I THINK THERE'S THREE WE FELT LIKE WERE A MEDIUM PRIORITY, AND AGAIN, THAT WAS JUST A VERY CURSORY REVIEW. WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND AN ENGINEER GOING OUT AND DO THAT, THOSE THE MEDIUM VERSUS WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT SEVERAL HIGH PRIORITIES THAT WOULD BE IN THAT LIST. >> Smith : GOT YA'. AGAIN, IF SOMETHING WERE TO DEVELOP MORE TO BE OF A SERIOUS NATURE, WHETHER IT'S A POOL, OF COURSE SOMEBODY'S POOL GETTING READY TO FALL OFF INTO THE CREEK, THAT MAY NOT BE A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY A BAD ISSUE FOR OUR PROPERTY OWNER WHO PAYS PROPERTY TAXES, AND IF THAT SHOULD HAPPEN, THE VALUE OF THE HOME GOES DOWN, THE PROPERTY TAXES ASSOCIATE GO DOWN, IT'S A LOSING PROPOSITION FOR EVERYBODY. SO I WOULD SAY I'M GOOD WITH LONG RANGE PLAN, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE READY AND ABLE SITUATIONS WITH INDIVIDUAL HOAs, OR NEIGHBORHOODS IF NECESSARY, AND OF COURSE THE CITY MANAGER WHOSE OPINION I VALUE QUITE MUCH, I DON'T WANT US TO -- LET'S PLAN IT, BECAUSE I THINK TOO MANY TIMES ORGANIZATION COMPANIES MUNICIPALITY WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME PLANNING, WHEN I THINK WE COULD SPEND MORE TIME SOLVING, YOU KNOW, ISSUE, AT LEAST INITIALLY SO -- >> AND CALEB, CORRECT ME, WE'LL BE CONTINUING WITH OUR CURRENT PROGRAM AS WE ARE TH WE'RE NOT DOINGITSOT ANYTHING, WE'RE CONTINUING ON THE PROGRAM WITH THE HIGH PRIORITY ASPECTS OF THINGS, BUT I ALSO WANT US TO BE CAREFUL WE'RE NOT GIVING PRECEDENT WHICH SAYS LET'S GO AROUND WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING INTO AN AREA THAT IS EITHER SU SUPPORTED BY THE STUDY, I DO THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY UNDER OUR CURRENT PROGRAM IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY TO BE ABLE TO REACT, I'M SEEING HEADS NOD. WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH THAT AND MAKE SOME PROGRESS ON THOSE PROJECTS, BUT THIS THOUGH ROW ANALYSIS FROM A PLANNING PSPECTIVE, COUNCIL, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT, THE ENTIRETY OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING ON AS THE CITY, BECAUSE FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE, I HAVE GREAT CONCERNS THAT THIS COULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT CITYWIDE, AND AS WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF BUDGET, I KNOW WE'RE ALL PRICE SENSITIVE TO ALL COSTS, AND THIS ONE COULD BE QUITE LARGE, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE -- BEFORE WE CHANGE DIRECTION, SO -- >> Mayor Muns: COUNCILMAN RICCIARDELLI. >> Ricciardelli: THANK CALEB, THANKOU F THAT GREAT INFORMATION. I TOO AGREE WITH MOVING AHEAD WITH THE STUDY. I WANT TO GET A FEEL FOR HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK THE STUDY ITSELF WILL COST? THORNHILL. AGAIN, WE'VE BASED IT BASED ON OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES, BUT WE EXPECT IT TO BE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. >> Ricciardelli: OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. >> Mayor Muns: I'M SORRY. MAYOR PR TEM? >> ON YOUR SLIDE, SLIDE 4, THE CASE STUDY THAT YOU SHOWED, WOULD IT BE A POTENTIAL SOLUTION IF WE GOT TO THIS POINT AND HAD A CASE LIKE THIS, WHERE YOU HAD THIS SITUATION ARISE TO ENTER INTO A PERPETUAL LEASE WITH THE HOMEOWNER SO THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING OR HAVE THESE ISSUES? >>> THORNHILL: I'LL SAY THIS. WE HAD THIS SLIDE VERY COMPLICATED BEFORE WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND WE TRIED TO PULL THAT BACK. WE'VE LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT ASPECT, WHETHER IT WOULD BE A REZONING. DO YOU REZONE ONE PARCEL? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE NEIGHBORING PARCELS ARE THE SAME SITUAON,OU WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO DO THE SAME. SO IT MAY BE A ZONING. IT MAY BE A BOA. WE'VE LOOKED AT A FULL-OUT JUST FEE SIMPLE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY. WE'VE LOOKED AT A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT AND WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS WHAT WOULD BE -- I WOULDN'T SAY THE EASIEST OR CLEANEST, WHAT WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE FOR THE CITY MOVING FORWARD. THE LEASING, WHILE IT PROBABLY MAKES GREAT SENSE, I'M NOT SURE, THERE'S A TERM AT THE END OF THAT, SO AT THE END OF THAT TERM, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS? SO -- BUT WE'RE OPEN TO ANYTHING, AND AGAIN, WE'RE HAVING SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS WITH LEGAL, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE SPEND PUBLIC DOLLARS ON ESSENTIALLY PRIVATE PROPERTY OR WHAT STEPS WE NEED TO TAKE TO DO THAT? >> Mayor Muns: COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS? >> Williams: THANK YOU, CALEB. I LIKE THE IDEA OF PROPERTY OWNERS NEAR STREAM BANKS PAYING A HIGHER DRAINAGE FEE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DRAINAGE FEE INCREASE WOULD HAVE TO BE TO BASICALLY POOL TH RIS OF 120 CREEK MIMES ACROSS THE CITY, BUT I LIKE THE CONCEPT. I THINK IT MERITS LOOKING INTO. FOR THE STUDY, I ALSO LIKE THAT. WOULD SUCH A STUDY, ESPECIALLY WITH A MILLION DOLLARS PRICE TAG, LOOK AT NOT JUST WHAT IS A PROBLEM NOW, BUT BASED ON THE LAYOUT AND THE TRENDS OF EROSION OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF DECADES, TELL US WHAT IS LIKELY TO BE A PROBLEM IN A COUPLE OF DECADES 0-- >> THORNHILL: SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF. THE ANSWER IS YES. AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT OUR SFF DOES NOW, THOUGH, IF THEY GET A CONCERN OR A COMPLAINT THAT'S BROUGHT UP ABOUT EROSION, THEY GO OUT AND DO AN EVALUATION AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, WELL IF IT DOESN'T MEET OUR PROGRAM TODAY, OBVIOUSLY IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR A TWO TO ONE SLOPE, IT'S 2.0 TO ONE RIGHT NOW, TECHNICALLY, IT DOESN'T NEED THE PROGRAM, BUT WE CAN SEE WHERE IT'S PROBABLY GOING. SIMILAR THOUGH THIS, WE WOULD HAVE THAT DATABASE OF THE CITY'S STREAM BANK SYSTEM, AND BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHILE ONE SCORE MAY NOT HAVE SCORED QUITE HIGH ENOUGH, WE CAN SEE WHERE THE TRENDS GO, SO ABSOLUTELY. >> Williams: OKAY. THANK YOU. WHEN IT COMES TO THE TERMINOLOGY OF MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS IT TO MAINTAIN THE STREAM BEDS, IS THERE A DEFINITION FOR THAT THAT WE EMPLOY. IS THERE A DEFINITION FOR THAT? SO -- >> THORNHILL: SO RUSSELL, I DON'T KNOW, YOU'VE STUDIED THE PLATS PROBABLY MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE EXAMPLES OF HOW THAT PLATS READ. HOMEOWR OR PRIVATEHE PROPERTY HOMEOWNER RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTENANCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE'LL LET THAT GO FROM NOW NOW OCCASIONALLY WE WILL STEP IN, IF IT TURNS INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE AFTER A DRAINAGE ISSUE. I KNOW RECENTLY I WENT OUT AND THERE WAS SOME COUCHES THAT WAS IN THE CREEK, WE HAD OUR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF GO OUT AND REMOVE BECAUSE THEY COULD BE FUTURE BLOCKAGE OF UPSTREAM, WE LOOK AT THE PLAT LANGUAGE, THAT'S WHAT WE FOLLOW. >> THORNHILL: THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE, CLEARING A COUCH OR LARGE DEBRIS OUT OF A CREEK BED, THAT DOESN'T ENTAIL NEARLY THE EFFORT AS SHORING UP ERODING LAND. I'M THINKING HAVE WE LOOKED AT CALIFORNIA LAW FOR THIS? THE MUDSLIDES IN CALIFORNIA SEEM TO BE A RECURRING PROBLEM AND THEY CAUSE VAST DEVASTATION. >> I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT CALIFORNIA LAW, I APOLOGIZE. >> Williams: NO SWEAT, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT UNTIL RIGHT NOW SO I THE -- YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S THE KIND OF SITUATION I'M AFRAID OF, WHERE WHOLE HOUSES ARE LOST. I MEAN A POOL IS BAD ENOUGH, BUT IF A POOL GOING MAKES IT EASIER FOR AN ACTUAL HOUSE GO, THAT IS EVEN WORSE. COUNCILMEMBER RICCIARDELLI ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT ONE. FOR INSTANCES WHERE COULD MAYOR PRO TEM'S POINT IN THE CASE STUDY, FOR INSTANCES WHERE A PROPERTY IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ZONING, IF WE -- IF WE TAKE POSSESSION OF THE LAND TO DO IMPROVEMENTS, ISN'T THERE A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD VARIANCE PROCESS WE COULD EMPLOY TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE? >> YES, WE HAVE TALKED WITH THE PLANNING DEPTMEN ON WHAT/IF S SCENARIO, AND WHAT WE WERE TOLD, BOA, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, WE CAN DO AN INDIVIDUAL PARCEL OR LOCATION TO DO THAT. OBVIOUSLY, AND I THINK MARK TOUCHED ON THIS EARLIER, THE PRECEDENCE IS THE CONCERN BECAUSE WHILE MAKES PERFECT SENSE FOR AN EXISTING PARCEL THAT, YOU KNOW, HALF THEIR BACK YARD IS FALLING INTO THE CREEK, IF SOMEBODY NEWCOMES IN, I WANT TO PLAY OUT MY LOT BASED ON WHAT YOU DID ON THIS PROPERTY, THERE WAS A REASON I DID IT THAT WAY, THE CHANNEL IS ENCROACHING ON MY PROPERTY, IT'S A CHALLENGE EITHER WAY -- >> Williams: SURE. I LIKE THE IDEA OF A STUDY, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE THE INCREASED DRAINAGE FEE FOR VIABILITY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: DEPUTY MAYOR? > >> I HAVE A FEW SILLY QUESTIONS, I GUESS. FIRST OF ALL, THE ONE MILLION DOLLARS PRICE TAG IS THAT FOR THE THREE YEARS OF THE STUDY THAT IS -- >> THORNHILL: THAT IS 120 MONTHS. >> YOU THINK MOST OF T MONEY SPENT UP FRONT OR MOST OF THE MONEY IN THE BACK END? >> THORNHILL: I THINK IT WILL BE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COVER 10 MILES. T -- 120 MILES.THEY WILL LIKELY, THIRD ESSENTIALLY DEPENDING ON THE SEASON, FOR INSTANCE IF WE STARTED THAT SOME TIME THIS FALL, THEY WOULD COVER OUT OF 120, 40 MILES OR SO, AND THEN I'M GUESSING -- WE HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO ANYBODY, WE JUST GOT SOME BALLPARK NUMBERS FOR BUDGET PURPOSES, THEN THEY COULD HAVE THAT DATA TO START NVERNG IT TO A DATABASE, WHILE THE NEXT SEASON IS ROLLING AROUND, SO IT WOULD BE KIND OF INTREATMENTLY. >> Tu: SO MY SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE, YEAH, IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE A JEN KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OUR CITY, AND THE STREAM BANK, AND IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE AN ASSESSMENT. IF IT'S GOING TO BE MADE PUBLIC, YOU THINK THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHO MAY HAVE ISSUES WITH REGARD TO, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE'S POTENTIAL DAMAGES THAT MIGHT BE -- I MEAN, HOW A YOU PLANNING ON DEALING WITH SOME OF THE POSSIBLE CONCERNS THAT MAY ARISE DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE DOING THIS JEN -- GENERAL ASSESSMENTS. >> THORNHILL: IT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT, WE ESSENTIALLY DO THAT NOW WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER A THREE OR FIVE YEAR CIP PROGRAM WITH THE STREETS OR WATER LINES, WHATNOT, WE NEED TO REPLACE, TO ME IT WOULD BE ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, WHAT THE IMPACTS MAY OR MAY NOT BE TO THE PRIVATE CITIZENS, IT'S A TOUGH ONE TO ANSWER. >> Tu: WELL, THE ISSUE IS SOME OF THEM -- SOME OF THE AREAS ARE COVERED BY CITY, AND SOME OF THEM ARE REQUIRED BY HOA OR PRIVATELY RESPONSIBLE, SO WHEN YOU START HAVING THESE ASSESSMENTS WHERE OH WELL THIS AREA PROBABLY WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL ISSUES IN FIVE OR TEN YEARS. I THINK MAY RAISE SOME CONCERNS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE THINK ABOUT PRIOR TO START MAKING THESE REPORTS AND NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION OF HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT OUR CITY SO -- >> THORNHILL: OKAY. I THINK STAFF IN OUR DISCUSSION WE REALIZE A LOT OF THE POTENTIAL LIABILITY WITH THIS, AND WE'LL BE SENSITIVE TO THE WAY THAT IT COMES BACK, BUT WE WANT TO BE FULLY TRANSPARENT WHEN WE DO COME BACK SO THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE. >> Mayor Muns: S SHELBY? >> OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE FASCINATED WITH GULLIES AND WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THEM. LET ME ASK A COUPLE OF REALLY WEIRD QUESTIONS. THE WATER THAT FLOWS THROUGH OUR STREAMS, DO WE OWN IT OR IS IT OWNED BY THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS? >> RUSSELL, YOU WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT. >> REALLY KIND OF DEPENDS ON THE DEFINITION, BUT IT'S STATE OF TEXAS WATER FIRST AND FOREMOST, AND THEN FROM THERE, CITY OF DALLAS HAS WATER RIGHTS TO WHITE ROCK CREEK AND ROWLETT CREEK. COMES DOWN FOR THE NEXT STEP BELOW THAT. >> SO THEIR WATER IS DESTROYING OUR STREAM BANKS, IS THAT WHAT -- >> I GUESS IN A ROUND ABOUT WAY -- >> Mayor Muns: EVERYBODY ISEN LAOING FOR THE DEEPER POCKET ON THESE THINGS, THE HOLMES IS LOOKING FOR US, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE DEEPER POCKET IS THAT COULD REIMBURSE SOME OF THESE THINGS, FROM A FEDERAL OR STATE STANDPOINT. THE REAL QUESTION IS WHAT OF A COST OF A PROJECT, SAY, FOR EVERY LINEAR MILE OF STREAM BANK? >> ALLISON, DO YOU REMEMBER? I THINK WE'VE GOT IT PER LINEAR FOOT ON AVERAGE. OKAY. WE CAN DEFINITELY GET THAT NUMBER. >> Grady: JUST CURIOUS, IF YOU HAVE 120 MILES, YOU HAVE 240 MILES YOU HAVE TO COVER ON BOTH SIDES OF IT, TIMES WHATEVER THE COST IS PER LINEAR FOOT, WE COULD REALLY BE LOOKING AT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IF WE HAVE TO DO THIS. >> OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T INTEND OR EXPECT TO ADDRESS BOTH SIDES EVERY SINGLE MILE -- >> Grady: YEAH, AND THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THE READ ON SOME OF THIS MIGHT BE THAT WE WOULD BE DING ALL OF THE BANKS ALL OF THE TIME EVERYWHERE, AND I THINK THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE THAT THE CITY HAS AS WELL THAT YOU CAN GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE YOU COULDN'T EVEN AFFORD IT. NEITHER COULD THEY. SO ... DALLAS AND THE STATE OF TEXAS IS DESTROYING OUR STREAM BANKS. I STAND ON THAT. (CHUCKLES). >> Mayor Muns: WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS. >> WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO EXPLORE ACTUALLY DEFINING WHAT WE MEAN BY MAINTAIN, BECAUSE COUNCILMAN GRADY IS RIGHT, IF WE HAD TO SHORE UP EFFECTELY 240INEA MILES OF STREAM BANK, IT'S GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY COST PROHIBITIVE, BUT TO YOUR POINT, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ANTICIPATES THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT TO HELP PRIORITIZE, IF WE DEFINE WHAT MAINTAIN MEANS, WE LEAVE THE DEBRIS REMOVAL TO PROPERTY OWNERS, HOAs, ET CETERA, IF THERE IS -- SAY THAT IF LIFE OR PROPERTY ARE IMPERILLED BY SERIOUS EROSION, THEN THAT DEVIATES FROM THE OTHER DEFINITION OF MAINTAIN AND THEN IT BECOMES SOMETHING THE CITY HAS TO LOOK AT. >> SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT IN PLACE, AND THAT'S HOW WE ASSESS THE SCORE. IF SOMEBODY CALLS US -- I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE SLIDES INCLUDED WITH THIS ONE. IF SOMEBODY CALLS US ABOUT AN EROSION CONCERN OR STREAM BANK CONCERN, WE HAVE A SCORE SHEET THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER, AND ON THAT SCORE SHEET IS, YOU KNOW, PROXIMITY TO UTILITIES, YOU KNOW WATER SEWER DRAINAGE. PROXIMITY TO A STRUCTURE. SO WE HAVE THOSE CRITERIA IN PLACE, SO IF WE GO OUT AND EVALUATION, AND NONE OF THOSE BOXES ARE CHECKED, AND THE SLOPE IS 3 TO 1, IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT LOOKING GREAT, BUT IT'S STILL HOLDING UP, WE DON'T -- YOU KNOW, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE LIMESTONE OR SHALE, WHATEVER, NOT EROSION ANTICIPATED, WE'LL HAVE THAT FOR OUR -- >> Williams: I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL DEFINITION OF MAINTAIN. I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE THE PROGRAM, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S ALSO NECESSARILY REACTIVITY POINT. >> IF THERE WAS A HEALTHY STREAM BANK, WE WILL NOT ADD ANY ADDITIONAL MN NANS TO MAINTE RESPONSIBILITY NANCE TO IT. >> Mayor Muns: APPRECIATE IT, CULEBRA, THANK YOU. >> WE DO, THE FIRST ONE IS BRENT EMKE. The city of plano implemented a subdivision ordinance TO AGREE ON THE OWNERSHIP OF A DEVELOPMENT'S CREEK BANK EASEMENT. THE OWNERSHIP CHOICES WERE EITHER THE CITY AN INDIVIDUAL OR AN HOA. THERE WAS NO WRITTEN CRITERIA ON THE FACTORS OF WHAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. THE DECISION BECAME A NEGOTIATION. THE DECISION WAS MADE BEFORE ANY LOT WAS SOLD, A HOUSE WAS BUILT, OR AN HOA FORMED. NOW AFTER 40 YEARS THE INDIVIDUALS AND HOAs THAT WERE ASSIGNED THIS RESPONSIBILITY ARE REPORTING EROSION ISSUES THAT ARE IMPACTING INDIVIDUAL LOTS AND STRUCTURES AND ASKING THE CITY FOR HELP. 38 YEARS AGO OUR HOA DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE NATURAL CREEK. OUR DEVELOPER'S PLAT MAP ASSIGNED THE CREEK BANK EASEMENT TO THE OWNER'S ASSOCIATION. FOR THE LATTER DEVELOPMENTS ACROSS THE CREEK AND UPSTREAM THE DEVELOPERS AND THE CITY AGREED THAT THE CITY WOULD BE THE OWNER OF THE CREEK BANK. THESE DEVELOPERS ALONG WITH THE UPSTREAM DEVELOPERS INCREASED THE STORM WATER RUNOFF THAT GOES INTO OUR CREEK. OUR PLAT MAP STATES THE CITY HAS NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR EROSION WHEN, IN FACT, THE SURROUNDING AND UPSTREAM DEVELOPMENTS ARE THE RESULTING IN THE INCREASED WATER FLOW THAT IS CAUSING THE EROSION. ALL PROPERTY OWNERS, INCLUDING OUR HOA MEMBERS, PAY A DRAINAGE FEE THAT'S THE FUND PLANO STREAM BANK STABILIZATION PROJECTS. YET, OUR HOA IS EXPECTED TO MAINTAIN OUR STREAM BANK WHILE THE CITY MAINTAINS THE ADJACENT STREAM BANK IN THE UPSTREAM BANK WITH OUR DRAINAGE FEES. TOTALLY UNFAIR. AT THE LAST MEETING MR. THORNHILL REPORTED HOAs AND INDIVIDUALS ARE ASSIGNED 8.6 MILES OF THE ENTIRE 120 MILES OF PLANO CREEKS. TONIGHT'S ENGINEERING RECOMMENDATION EXPANDS THE PROJECT BEYOND THE INITIAL SCOPE, WHICH WAS SHOULD THE CITY CHANGE THE POLICY AND ACCEPT THE ADDITIONAL 8.6 MILES IT DOESN'T ALREADY HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR. I ASK YOU NOT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THAT ORIGINAL SCOPE IN CONSIDERING YOUR DECISION. ALL STORM WATER RUNOFF ULTIMATELY FLOWS INTO A CREEK OR STREAM. THESE CREEKS AND STREAMS ARE, THEREFORE, CITY-WIDE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE CITY TO RELY ON. FOR THE SAKE OF FAIRNESS AND CONSISTENCY, FOR ALL OF ITS CITIZENS, THE CITY SHOULD CHANGE THE EXISTING POLICY. I URGE YOU TO WAIT NO LONGER AND MAKE THE CHANGE TO THE POLICY AND ACCEPT THE STREAM BANKS ALONG RESIDENTIAL AREAS. MR. MAYOR, COULD I MAKE -- ASK FOR ONE MORE MINUTE TO ADDRESS CONGRESS -- CONGRESSMAN -- CONGRESS MEMBER SMITH'S COMMENTS EARLIER? >> MAYOR MUNS: I HAVEN'T HEARD A BEEPER GO. >> I SAW A LIGHT GO ON. >> MAYOR MUNS: WE'LL COMPROMISE. 40. >> MR. THORNHILL IS RIGHT. OUR PLAT MAP SAYS THAT THE HOA IS RESPONSIBLE. WHAT I BROUGHT UP THE LAST TIME IS THE CITY ZONING FOR OUR WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS OVER 900 HOUSES WAS TO HAVE ONE SINGLE HOA RESPONSIBLE TO SHARE IN ANY COST. THE DEVELOPER WENT BANKRUPT. THE RESOLUTION TRUST TOOK OVER. EVERYBODY LOST SIGHT. THE CITY OF - OR THE TAX ASSESSOR HAVE COLLIN CREEK -- OR COLLIN COUNTY ASSIGNED US THE PLAT OR THE RESPONSIBILITY WHEN WE NEVER RECEIVED THE DEED. SO I AGREE IT'S ON THE PLAT MAP, BUT THERE'S A QUESTION OF DO WE REALLY OWN IT? THE CITY NEVER ENFORCED A SINGLE HOA, AND WE HAVE 122 HOMES IN OUR HOA THAT ONLY 20 HOUSES ARE ON THE CREEK. BECAUSE WE WERE THE FIRST ONE, WE ALSO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR TWO CREEK BANKS ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT BELONG TO ANOTHER HOA, WHICH WHEN ALLISON WAS OUT THERE, POINTED OUT THE ONE NEEDS ADDRESSING, WHICH WOULD MEAN OUR HOA IS SUPPOSED TO FUND THE WORK ON ANOTHER HOA'S PROPERTY'S MEMBER PROPERTY. THANK YOU. KINGSLEY.EXT SPEAKER IS MATTHEW WE WILL MOVE ON TO JOEY SEVEN. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOEY SEVEN. MY WIFE, MARILYNN, AND I HAVE LIVED AT 22520 NAPERTON DRIVE FOR OVER 18 YEARS. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS OF PLANO. THAT TELLS US YOU CARE. YOU HEARD FROM MY FELLOW HOMEOWNERS IN THE COVE AT THE MARCH 28 CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE COMMUNITY HERE IN PLANO CITIZENS. IT'S A COMMUNITY OF 158 HOMES LOCATED SOUTH OF McDERMOTT AND WEST OF CUSTERROAD. THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TO YOU. I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ELECTED INTO YOUR POSITION TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE A PROBLEM. I NEED YOUR HELP TO ADDRESS -- WE NEED YOUR HELP TO ADDRESS THE EROSION WITHIN THE ESTATES OF WOODWARD COVE TO CREATE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR FAMILIES TO PREVENT THE LOSS OF LIFE, PROPERTY DAMAGE CAUSED BY EROSION. THE DRAINAGE FLOW THAT IS OF CONCERN TO OUR HOA ORIGINATES FROM A DRAINAGE CULVERT AT THE NORTH END OF THE DRAINAGE AREA, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE, ABOUT A 4-FOOT MAYBE LARGER DIAMETER CULVERT. VERY LARGE. IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THADURING A HEAVY RAIN, WAR FLOWS THROUGH THAT CULVERT AT A VERY FAST AND DANGEROUS SPEED. CAN YOU JUST IMAGINE HOW MUCH WATER COMES THROUGH THERE? THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER DRAINAGE CULL VETERANS FEEDING THE WATER FLOW AS WELL. DURING THE MARCH 28th CITY COUNCIL MEETING, OUR HOA WAS AWARE OF TWO SITES WHERE THE EROSION IN OUR OPINION WAS QUITE SIGNIFICANT. ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN OUT AND LOOKED AT IT. I THINK RUSSELL HAS BEEN OUT THERE A COUPLE OF TIMES AND REPORTED -- AND WE HAVE A THIRTY TE JUST REPORTED LAST WEEK TO THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. THEREFORE, I REQUEST THAT THE CITY OF PLANO, NUMBER ONE, FUND A NEEDED EROSION REINFORCEMENT BEHIND THE MOST SEVERE SITE THE ESTATE THE WOODED COVE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE STREAM BANK EDGE IS ABOUT FOUR FEET AWAY FROM THE HOMEOWNER'S BACK FENCE AND ABOUT 15 FEET FROM HIS SWIMMING POOL. TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THAT, WE'VE HAD EVIDENCE HAVE KIDS BACK THERE SXLAG MAYBE SOME PEOPLE SNEAKING BACK THERE SMOKING A GREAT, BUT YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF IT WAS A MAJOR RUNOFF AND SOMEBODY SLIPS INTO THE HIGH-SPEED WATER FLOWING THROUGH THERE. VERY DANGEROUS. TO PREVENT FUTURE CATASTROPHES ON QUINTON POINT DRIVE TO DETERMINE WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. THIRD, CREATE A POLICY, LIKE THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, CREATE A POLICY THAT WOULD NOT LEAVE THE MANAGEMENT AND REPAIR WATER DAMAGE EROSION TO THE INDIVIDUAL HOAs BECAUSE THE COST FOR STREAM BANK REINFORCEMENT IS VERY EXPENSIVE. VERY EXPENSIVE. TO GET AN ENGINEERING -- >> MAYOR MUNS: YOUR TIME IS UP, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU 30 MORE SECONDS TO WRAP IT UP WHERE, >> BASICALLY, WE ALREADY PAID $10,000 JUST FOR AN ENGINEERING ESTIMATE FINALLY, PLEE ROMMEND HE CAN HELP YOU AND THE STREAM BANK PROGRAM TO SUCCESSFULLY -- TO BE SUCCESSFUL ALL THROUGHOUT PLANO GOING FORWARD. S THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. WE'RE NEEDING TO GIVE SOME DIRECTION TO CALEB AND, OBVIOUSLY, WITHOUT REALLY HAVING AN IDEA WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A CITY-WIDE ASSESSMENT IS CRITICAL FOR US TO EVEN KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN UNDERSTANDING AREAS OF NEED IMMEDIATELY AND THEN THOSE AREAS THAT CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF DOWN THE ROAD, BUT I THINK THE CITY WIDE STREAM BANK EROSION IS CRITICAL TO US UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE ARE EVEN TALKING ABOUT. >> I AGREE WITH DOING THE STUDY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE HOPEFULLY FROM THE STUDY A DEFINITION OF WHAT SAFETY MEANS, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW WHEN AN AREA IS AT RISK AND NEEDS US TO GET INVOLVED IN. IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF WE COULD FIND SOME SORT OF GRANT MONEY OUT THERE TO HELP WITH THE STUDY BECAUSE $1 MILLION IS A LOT FOR A STUDY. IF WE COULD MAGICALLY FIND THAT, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. >> IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR. I LIKE THE IDEA OF MAGICALLY FINDING $1 MILLION AS WELL. I WILL SECOND THAT. NO, BUT ALSO, AS WE DO THIS STUDY I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO NOTE AREAS WHERE EROSION HAS BEEN EITHER CAUSED OR WORSENED BY MANMADE IMPROVEMENTS. ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE CITY IMPROVEMENTED. BOTH OF THE SPEAKERS ALLUDED TO DRAINAGE CULVERTS THAT FUNNEL WATER IN A CERTAIN WAY AND, OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO BE RELEVANT TO THE ANALYSIS OF WHAT THE CITY SHOULD BE TAKING ON. IF WE'VE DONE SOMETHING THAT HAS REDIRECTED WATER THAT'S CREATING AN ISSUE THAT DIDN'T EXIST NATURALLY, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE RELEVANT. >> I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GREAT POINT. WI BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WITH THAT. AS WE WILL FIND, I'M SURE, SEVERAL AREAS THAT HAVE pUNPERM STREAM. THAT'S ONE OF OUR -- I WOULD SAY BETWEEN THAT AND EROSION ARE OUR CHIEF COMPLAINTS. SOMEBODY FROM ACROSS THE STREAM WILL SAY THEY DID THIS IN THE CREEK, AND THEY CAN'T DO THAT. IT WILL BE A PART OF THAT EVALUATION AS WELL. >> IT WILL BE GOOD TO HAVE ALL INFORMATION AND THEN HOPEFULLY GOOD DECISIONS CAN FLOW FROM HAVING ALL OF THE INFORMATION, SO THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MUNS: COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. >> I AGREE WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STUDY AND WITH THE EXISTING FUNDS, AS YOU POINTED OUT, WE CAN CONTINUE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THE SAME TIME. I WOULD LIKE TO GET AN UPDATED ASSESSMENT OF THE MOST CRITICAL OUR CURRENT FUND CAN ADDRESS - THOSE. IF NOT, WHAT'S THE GAP? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY I THINK, AGAIN, THE STUDY IS GOOD BECAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE WE HAVE PROBLEMS NOW, WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD. AGAIN, I DON'T WANT US TO LOSE SIGHT OF CURRENT PRESSING ISSUES THAT MAY BE DEVELOPING, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE OUR HOMEOWNERS THAT FEEL LIKE THEY ARE HAVING SOME POTENTIAL SAFETY ISSUES, LET US KNOW. STAY ON TOP OF US. KEEP THAT WHEEL SQUEAKING SO WE KNOW ABOUT IT. OUR ENGINEERING FOLKS, AGAIN, IF ERE'S QUESTION, ERR ON THE SIDE OF OUR HOMEOWNERS, AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, BRING IT BACK TO, YOU AND LET US DEAL WITH IT. >> MAYOR MUNS: ARE WE ALL GOOD WITH THE DIRECTION? YOU GOOD WITH THAT? >> I'LL KEEP LOOKING FOR THAT MONEY TREE. >> MAYOR MUNS: EXACTLY. ALL RIGHT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST TO COUNCILMAN GRADY IF WE DID NEED TO SHORE UP 240 LINEAR MILES OF STREAM BANK, MAYBE WE COULD REPURPOSE THOSE FUNDS AND BUILD A MOAT AROUND PLANO. [LAUGHING] >> I ALWAYS THOUGHT A FENCE ALONG -- NO. [LAUGHING] >> I ACTUALLY DO HAVE ONE MORE CLARIFICATION BECAUSE COUNCILMEMBER SMITH RAISED A GOOD POINT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY EARLIER, MARC, UNDER OUR CURRENT PROGRAM WE CAN ADDRESS EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT HELPS GET US THROUGH THIS PERIOD, AND THEN CONTINUE ADDRESSING EMERGENCY SITUATIONS, OBVIOUSLY. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM FOUR, CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS. EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? NEXT ITEM, COUNCIL ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION AND FUTURE AGENDAS. >> MR. MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE ITEM. ON THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A FUTURE DISCUSSION ON THE USE OF CDBG HOME AND BUFFINGTON GRANT FUNDS. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> MAYOR MUNS: OKAY. GOT IT? WITH THAT WE'LL TAKE A RECESS >> MAYOR MUNS: I NOW CLEE CLAIRE THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IS IN SESSION. WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY PATRI IGA, MISSION'S PASTOR WITH THE LEGACY CHURCH, AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE TEXAS PLEDGE LED BY CUB SCOUT PACK 120 WITH HEDGECOXE ELEMENTARY. WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE? >> LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR MOMENTS AND MEETINGS SUCH AS THESE THAT WE CAN COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY REQUESTS, OUR CONCERNS IN A FREE ENVIRONMENT SUCH AS THIS, BUT IT'S AT THIS VERY MOMENT THAT WE ASK, LORD, FOR YOUR PRESENCE TO BE HERE WITH US THIS EVENING. WE ASK, LORD, THAT IN ALL THE DECISIONMAKING THAT GOES ON TONIGHT OR THE CONVERSATION THAT GOES ON TONIGHT WE ASK FOR YOUR PEACE, THE PEACE THAT PASSES ALL UNDERSTANDING. WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM, LORD, THE WISDOM THAT ONLY COMES FROM YOU. IN ALL OF THIS, WE LEAN NOT ON OUR OWNDERSTANDINGS, BUT, RD,N ALL OUR WAYS WE PRAY THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE YOU IN EVERYTHING SO THAT YOU CAN GUIDE US IN THIS GREAT CITY TO KEEP THE PATH AND THE COURSE OF THE CITY STRAIGHT. WE LOOK TO YOU AND LEAN ON YOU AT THIS VERY MOMENT. WE PRAY FOR ALL THE LEADERS HERE AT THIS VERY MOMENT ASKING THAT YOU GUIDE THEM. YOU GUIDE THEM WITH YOUR HAND AND YOUR PROVISION. IT'S IN YOUR NAME THAT I PRAY, JESUS AMEN. >> PLEASE JOIN US IN RECITING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE TEXAS PLEDGE. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] [TEXAS PLEDGE] >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. BE SEATED, PLEASE. THANK YOU, GUYS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [APPLAUSE] I KNOW IT'S THAT TIME OF THE YEAR WHEN KIDS ARE BACK TO SCHOOL BECAUSE WE FINALLY GET OUR CUB SCOUTS AND OUR SCOUT TROOP TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED. TONIGHT WE'RE ALSO HONORED THAT THE PLANO PUBLIC LIBRARY HAS BEEN AWARDED TWO AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION PR EXCHANGE AWARDS, SO I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FORWARD LIBBY HOLDMAN, DIRECTOR OF THE PLANO PUBLIC LIBRARY, AND ALL THE LIBRARY MANAGERS AND STAFF. PLEASE COME DOWN AND JOIN US. NOW, I'M GOING TO HAND THIS OVER TO LIBBY SO YOU CAN TELL US ALL ABOUT THESE AWARDS. >> I WOULD LOVE TO. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MUNS: DO YOU NEED THAT? >> SURE. ACTUALLY NO. THESE ARE YOURS, SO I'LL JUST -- >> MAYOR MUNS: I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHNG SPECIAL. >> I'LL LET THE TEAM TALK ABOUT IT. I'M DELIGHTED TO BE HERE ON BEHALF OF LIBRARIES. WE HAVE TAMMY, WHO IS THE OUTREACH MANAGER. I'M GOING TO LET HER TALK ABOUT THIS. THIS IS THE WORK HER TEAM DOES THE CITY.T WITH THE WORK WITH >> THANKS. IN ADDITION TO PLANNING OUTREACH THAT TAKES THE LIBRARY OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS OUR MAIN FOCUS, OUR OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT TEAM IS ALSO -- WE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF PROMOTING THE LIBRARY BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE WONDERFUL RESOURCES OF FIVE LIBRARIES IN PLANO, AND SO WE WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW ALL ABOUT IT. OUR GOAL IS TO SHARE RESOURCES, MATERIALS, 3,000-PLUS PROGRAMS A YEAR, AND, OF COURSE, THE BEST RESOURCE OF ALL, OUR WONDERFUL WELCOMING, SUPPORTIVE STAFF. OUR ANNUAL REPORT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOWCES THE VUE OF THE LIBRARY AND GIVES A RECAP OF OUR YEAR. THAT'S ON OUR WEBSITE. OUR E-NEWS HAS A MONTHLY QUICK REMINDER THAT WE SEND OUT, AND IT SHOWS YOU ALL THAT'S GOING ON IN THE FIVE LIBRARIES FOR THE UPCOMING MONTH. IF YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THE ALMOST 100,000 PEOPLE ALREADY SUBSCRIBED, WE HOPE YOU WILL BECAUSE NOW IT'S AWARD-WINNING, AND YOU WANT TO BE PART OF AN AWARD-WINNING E-NEWS. WE ARE PROUD OF THE NATIONAL RECOGNITION AND LOOK FORWARD TO MORE IN THE FUTURE. >> MAYOR MUNS: LET'S GIVE THEM A HAND. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. >> COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION. THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. WE DO HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS THIS EVENING. THE FIRST ONE IS BILL FRANCE. >> I'M A 25-YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO, AND TONIGHT I'M HERE REPRESENTING PLANO TEXAS NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION. WE ARE HERE, AGAIN, TONIGHT TO VOICE OUR CONCERNS REGARDING THE UNLAWFUL OPERATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN PLANO'S SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. AT THIS TIME I ASK ALL OF OUR SUPPORTERS TO PLEASE STAND. FIRST, WE ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNED THAT THE PROPOSED REGISTRATION PROCESS WILL BE REGARDED AS AN IRREVOCABLE LICENSE TO OPERATE AN STR IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ASK THIS BE STRICTLY AND EMPHATICALLY DENIED. SECOND, WE CONTEND THAT ARTICLE 14 OF THE EXIING ZONING ORDINANCE CLEARLY PROHIBITS EVERY TYPE OF COMMERCIAL LODGING OPERATION IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONES AND THAT THE LACK OF ENFORCEMENT OF THIS LAW IN THE PAST DOES NOT PRECLUDE ANY FUTURE ENFORCEMENT FOR PROHIBITION. FURTHERMORE, GRANDFATHERING OF ANY EXISTING STR OPERATION SHOULD NEVER OCCUR. JUST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ENFORCED THE LAW DOES NOT MAKE THIS LEGAL. LASTLY, WE ASK COUNCIL TO IMDIATELY ENACT A BAN AND A MORATORIUM ON ANY NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN PLANO. NO LAWFUL CONDITIONS EXIST THAT CAN STRAIN OUR CITY FROM ACTING. YOU ARE NOT CONSTRAINED BY THE FILINGS OF THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL. THEY ARE NOT THE LAW OF THE LAND. THE CITIES ARLINGTON, GRAPEVINE, HEARSE, AND NEW BRAUNFELS HAVE ALL SUCCESSFULLY BANNED SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN NEIGHBORHOODS. AGAINST MANY CHALLENGES, THEY HAVE HELD FIRM IN OUR COURTS. THE GREAT MANY GOOD AND LAWFUL CITIZENS OF PLANO SHOULD NOT BE CONTINUOUSLY HARMED DUE TO THE BLATANT DISREGARD OF THE LAW BY OUTSIDE INVESTORS WHO VIEW PLANO NEIGHBORHOODS AS A PLACE TO OPERATE A HOTEL BUSINESS RATHER THAN WHAT THEY LEGALLY ARE, OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING AND FOR REPRESENTING THE LAW-ABIDING RESIDENTS OF PLANO. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU, SIR. [A [APPLAUSE] >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS NORWOOD ST STORY. >> MAYOR MUNS -- EXCUSE ME. I HAVE TO GET MY GLASSES ON -- AND THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS NORWOOD STORY. I'VE LIVED IN PLANO FOR 42 YEARS, AND TONIGHT I'M HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR HELP. WE ALL HOPE TO LIVE IN PEACE WI OUR NEIGHBORS. FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS I'VE BEEN LIVING ON A STREET THAT HAS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. TONIGHT AS I DESCRIBE MY EXPERIENCES, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO IMAGINE HOW YOU WOULD FEEL WITH THIS GOING ON YOUR STREET. LOUD NOISE LATE AT NIGHT, CARS PARKED ALL UP AND DOWN THE STREET. THAT IN ITSELF IS NOT UNREASONABLE, BUT WHAT CAME WITH IT IS. HOW ABOUT TRASH THROWN IN PEOPLE'S YARDS WHEN THEY LEAVE THE PARTY? ITEMS STOLEN FROM NEIGHBOR'S YARDS. DRUG DEALS WITNESSED ON THE REET IN FRONT OF THE PARTY HOUSE. PARTY GOERS DRINKING ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN THE STREET OUT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. RENTERS USING THE ALLEY AS A PARKING SPOT. 30-PLUS MINUTES AT A TIME BLOCKING THE ALLEY FOR THOSE THAT NEED IT TO GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR HOMES. OVER 20 RECORDED POLICE INCIDENCES WITHIN A SIX-MONTH PERIOD. MANY INCIDENTS WEREN'T RECORDED BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT A CALL SENT TO THE POLICE. IT WAS JUST A COMPLAINT TO OUR POLICE LIAISON LATER ON THAT WEEK. THE OWNER LIVES OUT OF STATE AND HAS NO TIES WITH PLANO. NUMEROUS CITY ORDINANCES HAVE BEEN VIOLATED. PARKING OVER A DOZEN CARS IN THE GRASS IN THE BACKYARD. IT'S A BIG BACKYARD, AND IT WAS BIG ENOUGH TO FIT 20 CARS IN IT. COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, PARKING ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS OVERNIGHT, AND AN OVERGROWN YARD TO THE POINT THAT THE CITY HAD TO HIRE A SERVICE TO GET THE GRASS CUT. TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THE OWNER HAS NOT BEEN HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OF THIS AND HAS NEVER BEEN FINED FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER. YOU WONDER HOW DID THEY GET AWAY WITH THIS? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ENFORCING OUR LAWS. COMMERCIAL LODGING OPERATIONS DON'T BELONG IN PLANO SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED THERE. THEY NEVER HAVE BEEN. THEY NEVER SHOULD BE. I ASK YOU, PLEASE ENFORCE OUR ZONING LAWS TO PREVENT THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS FROM CONTINUING AND GROWING. ANY ACTION THAT WIL INCREASE THE MBER OF STRs IN OUR CITY WILL PUT FURTHER STRAIN ON THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HANDLING THESE TYPES OF VIOLATIONS. I TRUST THAT YOU WILL TAKE THESE COMMENTS INTO CONSIDERATION AS DISCUSSIONS CONTINUE ON THIS SUBJECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU, SIR. >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS BENJAMIN S SAW. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS BEN, AND I'M HERE TO RAP FOR YOU GUYS TONIGHT. JUST KIDDING. I'M HERE TO SAY THAT PLANO IS THE BEST CITY IN THE COUNTRY. NOW, I MIGHT BE BIASSED BECAUSE I GREW UP HERE, BUT THE WAY PEOPLE AND CORPORATIONS HAVE FLOCKED HERE SHOWS THAT MY STANDPOINT IS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR AND OBVIOUS. MY PARENTS EMIGRATE FROM TAIWAN 30-PLUS YEARS AGO. THEY WERE VERY SPECIFIC ON WHERE THEY WANTED TO RAISE A FAMILY, AND THEY WANTED A CITY TO BE SAFE, TO HAVE AMAZING SCHOOLS. THEY WANTED TO HAVE A GOOD COMMUNITY WITH NEIGHBORS THAT COULD ONE DAY BE FRIENDS BECAUSE THEY WERE VERY FAR AWAY FROM HOME. THANKS TO THEIR FORESIGHT AND METICULOUS SEARCHING, ME AND MY SIBLINGS WERE ABLE TO GROW UP HERE IN PLANO. pWE HAVE THE PRIVP HERE. SINCE I GRADUATE FROM PLANO EAST, I HAVE LIVED IN A FEW DIFFERENT CITIES. I'VE LIVED IN AUSTIN WHERE THERE'S NEVER A DULL MOMENT. I'VE LIVED IN SAN JOSE WHERE I COULD GO SNOWBOARDING JUST THREE HOURS AWAY, AND I HAVE LIVED IN HOUSTON WHERE I ATE A LOT. AND I MET MY FIANCE. WE STARTED TALKING A LOT ABOUT OUR OWN FUTURE, FAMILY, KIDS, WHERE WE WANTED TO GROW UP, AND IT WAS VERY OBVIOUS. PLANO WAS THE BEST OUT OF ALL. SO WE MOVED BACK TO MY CHILDHOOD HOME WITH MY PARENTS, AND EVERYTHING SEEMED TO BE AS EXPECTED. THE COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES AND SERVICES I REMEMBERED AS A CHILD WERE STILL AROUND. I HAD A LOT OF FRIENDS STARTING TO MOVE BACK. ONE EVEN BECAME A TEACHER HERE IN PSD. SOMETHING S AMS. FOR A WHILE MY PARENTS HAD BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT A NOISY NEIGHBOR. I DON'T CALL THEM A NEIGHBOR BECAUSE WHAT THEY ARE IS A RESIDENTIAL HOME THAT'S BEEN TKEN OVER BY A CORPORATION AND LEASED OUT ON A DAILY BASIS AS A HOTEL. SOMETIMES IT'S FILLED WITH FAMILIES. SOMETIMES IT'S FILLED WITH PARTY GOERS. BUT EVERY TIME IT'S FILLED WITH PEOPLE BEV NEVER MET BEFORE. MY PARENTS WERE WORRIED CONSTANTLY. EVERY SINGLE NIGHT THEY WOULD WONDER ARE THERE NEW GUESTS? I HOPE THEY DON'T KEEP US UP WITH LOUD MUSIC. WHO ARE THESE STRANGERS FIVE STEPS AWAY FROM MY BACKYARD? INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO WAVE THE A FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR IN THE MORNING, WHETHER THE NEIGHBOR KIDS SHOOT HOOPS IN THE BACKYARD, THEY'VE INSTALLED SECURITY CAMERAS TO GET A PEACE OF MIND IN THEIR OWN HOME. THIS IS NOT WHAT WE EXPECTED MOVING BACK. NO ARE IS THIS WHAT MY PARENTS HAD IMAGED EVER. PLANO'S CHILDREN ARE GROWING UP, AND ARE LOOKING TO RETURN TO THE SAME OPPORTUNITY WE GREW UP WITH. WE WANT FOR OUR CHILDREN WHAT ALL OF YOU WANTED FOR YOUR CHILDREN. WE WANT THE PRIVLEGE OF ALLOWING THEM TO GROW UP IN A CITY THAT'SSAFE, HAS GREAT SCHOOLS, A STRONG COMMUNITY FULL OF CITIZENS WHO CARE AND CONTRIBUTE TO OUR GREAT TOWN. WE WANT TO LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD FULL OF NEIGHBORS, NOT AIRBNB LISTINGS. PLEASE, HELP STOP THIS CANCEROUS SPREAD OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS. CUT THEM OUT OF OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE I AM VERY CONCERNED THAT ONE DAY IN THE FUTURE WE'LL BE HERE TALKING ABOUT HOW PLANO WAS THE BEST CITY IN THE COUNTRY. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. PPLAE] >> T NEXT SPEAKER IS ALAN SAM SAMARA. >> MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL. GREAT TO SEE YOU. MY NAME IS ALAN SAMARA, AND I'M A 16-YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO. I'M ALSO A FORMER RETAIL CHAIN FOUNDER AND WE OPENED OUR FOURTH STORE IN 1982 TO BE NEAR COLLIN CREEK MALL. I' HAD A HISRY HERE IN PLANO. MOST OF YOU KNOW NECEME. I'M A PAST PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE OUR CITY FOR TWO YEARS. HAVING SPENT TIME REVIEWING AND ASSESSING THE EXCELLENT WORK OF THE CPRC AND OUR PLANNING STAFF AND OUR CONSULTANT, ALL OF WHOM WORKED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I HAD A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS WHEN I LEFT, AND I WANTED TO SHARE THEM WITH YOU TODAY. I WANT TO SHARE ONE WITH YOU TODAY, AND THAT WAS THAT STAFF DEVELOPED A SYSTEM OF LOOKING BACK AT CONTROVERSIAL PLANNING DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE DURING THE PREVIOUS YEAR, AND THAT THEY REPORT TO YOU NOT ONLY THE STATISTICS OF HOW OUR CITY IS GROWING AND HOW MUCH MONEY IS BEING SPENT, BUT WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE MADE DECISIONS THAT WERE CONTROVERSIAL IN NATURE AND HOW DID THEY -- HOW WILL THEY INSTRUCT US FOR TREATING OUR CITY DIFFERENTLY IN THE FUTURE? I PUT UP OUR LAND USE MAP, THE NEW LAND USE MAP, AND IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO READ AND MAKE SOME SENSE OUT OF, BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS BASICALLY HOLD BACK THE SOUTH SIDE OF 121, ALL THE AVAILABLE TRACKS REMAINING ON THE TOLLWAY, AND THE PLANO FREEWAY CORRIDOR FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND EMPLOYMENT CENTERS. THAT HAS TURNED OUT TO BE A BRILLIANT MOVE, AND IT HAS RESULTED IN THREE DIVIDENDS THAT WE HAVE HAD MOST RECENTLY AND IT'S WHAT MOTIVATED ME TO COME HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT. ON THE 23rd OF JUNE RYAN COMPIES ANNOUNCE THA THEY WERE BUILDING A 23-STORY, 400,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING RIGHT IN THE HEART OF THE LEGACY CENTER. ON THE 27th PRO LOGIX, ONE OF THE LARGEST INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPERS IN OUR COUNTRY, MADE A COMMITMENT TO TAKE OVER THE NTT DELL BUILDING THAT YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH BECAUSE OF A NUMBER OF ISSUES WEAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT BUILDING. IT'S A DATA CENTER, AND THEY ARE GOING TO REBUILD IT AS A DUSTAL FACILITY AND IT'S RIGHT ON PLANO PARKWAY. THE LAST ONE AND THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE, THE CAMPUS OF JC PENNEY ON THE 17th OF MAY IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT THE JC PENNEY COMPANY IS COMING BACK TO OUR CITY TO THEIR AWARD-WINNING ARCHITECTURALLY WINNING BUILDING. WE ATTENUATED THE BUILDING OF FULT-FAMILY ON THESE SITES AND IN THESE TRACKS. I URGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO DO IT. THESE ARE THREE DIVIDENDS THAT CAME ABOUT BECAUSE WE HELD LAND BACK FOR EMPLOYERS. PLANO IS GROWING WITH EMPLOYERS, AND WE'VE GOT A GOOD CHANCE TO DO SO IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU, ALAN. I WANTED TO -- BEFORE YOU GO ON, LISA, I JUST WANTED TO TELL THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE REGARDING SHORT-TERM RENTALS, ON SEPTEMBER 12th THIS WILL BE -- THIS ITEM WILL BE ON THE AGENDA. WE WILL HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF AIRBNB HERE. WE'LL ALSO HAVE AN ATTORNEY THAT DEALT WITH THE ARLINGTON CASE. WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION WHEN WE WELCOME ALL OF YOU BACK TO SPEAK, BUT WE PLAN ON HAVING THAT ON SEPTEMBER 12th. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL THEN. THANK YOU. [APP [APPLAUSE] >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SHARON OVERALL. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU MADE TRALDZ AND PARKING LOTS AN EXCEPTION, BUT THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT DO ANYTHING TO PROTECT THE HOMEOWNER. OUR HOMES AND YARDS ARE OUR CALF AND AS WE GET OLDER, MORE AND MORE OF OUR WORLD. . WE NEED PROTECTION FROM THOSE WHO BLOW THEIR CHEMICALS ON TO OUR PROPERTY. WE DESERVE TO BREATHE CLEAN AIR WHILE WE ARE IN OUR OWN YARDS. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CONSUME ALCOHOL ON ANY PUBLIC STREET, SO WHY CAN YOU SMOKE WHILE I, WALKING DOWN A SIDEWALK? YOU CAN ALLOW IT IN AN ENCLOSED CAR. JUST NO DANGLE A GREAT OUT THE WINDOW AND KEEP IT SHUT. ANYWHERE YOU BAN ALCOHOL, YOU SHOULD BAN CIGARETTE SMOKE. SMOKING IS A PRACTICE IN WHICH A SUBSTANCE IS BURNED AND RESULTING SMOKE IS TO BE TASTED AND ABSORBED INTO YOUR BLOODSTREAM. THE COMBUSTION OF THE DRY PLANT LEAVES VIDEOTAPE RISES AND DELIVERS ACTIVE SUBSTANCES INTO THE LUNGS. THE SUBSTANCES ARE CONTAINED IN A MIXTURE OF AEROSOL PARTICLES AND GASES. THE SMOKE THAT IS EXHALED AND BREATH IN BY NONSMOKERS HAS ALL THE SAME CHEMICALS AND ANY VIRUSES THAT ATTACH THEMSELVES TO THE PARTICLES AND GASES WHILE IN THE LUNGS AND MOUTH. EXPOSURE TO SECOND HAND SMOKE CAN BE MEASURED BY TESTING SALIVA, URINE, IT OR BLOOD TO SEE IF IT CONTAINS COTANINE, WHICH IS WHAT IS CREATED WHEN THE BODY BREAKS DOWN THE CHEMICALS IN TOBACCO SMOKE. CHILDREN HAVE HIGHER LEVELS IN THEIR BLOODSTREAM THAT ARE EXPOSED TO SMOKERS. IT INCLUDES VINYL CHLORIDE, CADMIUM. BYPRODUCTS MUCH TOBACCO SMOKE REMAIN IN THE AIR AND CIGARETTE IS EXTINGUISHED, AND - THIS WAY THE AFFECT OF SMOKING ON THE ENVIRONMENT LEAVES A LASTING RESIDUE OF TOXIC PARTICLES IN THE ENVIRONMENT. THIRD HAND SMOKE EXPOSURE IS EXPOSURE TO THE TOXIC AGENTS IN SMOKE THAT HAVE ACCUMULATES AS RESIDUE IN CLOTHING, RUGS, FURNITURE, DUST, TOYS, ET CETERA. THE TOXIC AGENTS CAN BE ABSORBED THROUGH THE SKIN, AND MUCOUS MEMBRANES BY NON-SMOKERS. ESPECIALLY BY INFANTS AND YOUNG CHILDREN WHO PK UP OBJECTS THAT HAVE THE RESIDUE AND THEN PUT THEIR FINGERS THIS THEIR MOUTHS. THIS IS WHY YOU DO NOT WANT YOUR NEIGHBOR TO SMOKE WHERE THE SMOKE DRIFTS ON TO YOUR PROPERTY. EVEN IF YOU GO INSIDE WHILE THEY ARE SMOKING, THE RESIDUE WILL BE PRESENT ON ANY OBJECTS WHERE THE PARTICLES FROM THE SMOKE LAND. THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT PROHIBITS SMOKING 25 FEET FROM ANY BUILDING. YET, A NEIGHBOR CAN SMOKE ON HIS PROPERTY AND BE CLOSER TO YOUR HOUSE THAN 25 FEET. IF YOU ARE SITTING OUT FRONT AND SMOKING ON A SIDEWALK, THEN YOU ARE CLOSER THAN 25 FEET FROM THE . NO ONE SHOULD BE EXPOSED TO HARMFUL CHEMICALS WHEN THEY ARE IN THEIR OWN YARDS BY A SMOKER. SECOND HAND SMOKE IS A NUISANCE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHAEL AD ADLER. >> HELLO, MAYOR, COUNCIL. THANKS FOR HEARING ME TODAY. I'M A NEW RESIDENT TO PLANO. WE JUST MOVED IN APPROXIMATE THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO. I WAS PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT MOVING IN THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE. UNFORTUNATELY, THE HOUSE THAT WE'RE RENTING IS MANAGED BY A LANDLORD THAT DOESN'T HOLD HIMSELF TO THAT SAME STANDARD. I FOUND OUT DURING THESE FIRST FEW MONTHS RENTING FROM HIM THAT THERE WERE MANY THINGS IN DISREPAIR WITH THE HOME. I WAS ABLE TO USE PLANO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TO GET SOME OF THOSE ISSUES ADDRESSED, AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR IT, BUT I ALSO DISCOVERED THAT THERE IS A SHORTFALL WITH OUR CODE FOR PROPERTY STANDARDS. SPEAKING WITH PEOPLE FROM NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AND SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, I FOUND OUT THAT THERE'S NO REAL DEFINITION FOR A WORKING AC UNIT IN A RENTAL HOME. I JUST HEARD THAT IT HAS TO BE WORKING. I DON'T KNOW. DOES IT HAVE TO BE CONNECTED? DOES IT HAVE TO HAVE WORKING VENTILATION? DOES IT HAVE T ACTUALLY MAKE THE HOME COOL, WHICH IS ITS PURPOSE? THERE'S NOTHING DEFINED. AS A RESULT OF THIS, THERE WAS NOTHING I CAN DO TO FORCE MY LANDLORD TO MAKE MY HOME HABITABLE. RIGHT NOW IT'S A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SUMMER, AND I HAVE A NEW CHILD. I HAVE A 6-MONTH-OLD. WHEN I LEFT THE HOSPITAL, THEY TOLD ME TO KEEP THAT INFANT BETWEEN 70 AND 73 DEGREES. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN MY HOME. GRANTED, HE IS NOT A NEWBORN. HE IS 6 MONTHS OLD, BUT RIGHT NOW WITH AIR-CONDITIING RUNNG DURING THE WORST PART OF THE DAY, MY HOME CAN BE 86 TO 91 DEGREES DEPENDING ON WHICH ROOM OF THE HOUSE YOU'RE IN BECAUSE IT'S A LONG PROPERTY. IF IT HAS TO GO FURTHER FROM THE SOURCE, IT GETS WARMER BECAUSE THE INSULAION IS JUST NOT THERE. THIS IS AFFECTING THE HEALTH OF THE CHILD. I HAVE TAKEN HIM TO HIS DOCTOR AND A COUPLE OF OTHER DOCTORS, AND THEY BOTH TOLD ME I NEED TO ADDRESS THE SITUATION. I DID THE BEST WHAT I COULD DO BECAUSE I AM MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEALTH OF MY CHILD THAN FIGHTING MY LANDLORD ABOUT THIS. I BOUGHT A MOBILE AC UNIT FOR JUST THE ROOM THAT WE'RE TO STAY IN. I TESTED IT OUT. IT GOT SO EXPENSIVE TO RUN THE AC CONSTANTLY THAT I TURNED IT OFF, AND I KEPT MY CHILD IN THE ONE ROOM OF THE HOUSE WHERE I CAN KEEP IT COOL WITH THE MOBILE UNIT. ON SMART METER TEXAS I RECORDED T THIS. YOU SEE WHERE THE ENERGY USE GOES DOWN. THAT'S WHERE I TURNED OFF THE MAIN AC UNIT. THAT'S FOR 12 DAYS I RAN IT WITHOUT AC AND THEN ALL THESE TIMES BEFORE AND AFTER. THAT'S AN AVERAGE OF OVER 30 KILOWATT HOURS MORE WHEN RUNNING THE UNIT. THAT'S BEYOND REASONABLE. NOW, THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT ME. THE SITUATION, THAT'S MY PROBLEM, BUT THIS AFFECTS ALL OF US BECAUSE IT PUTS A STRN ON OUR GRID. WITH EVERYBODY MOVING IN, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE INSTANCES LIKE WE SAW LAST WEEK WITH THE POWER GOING OUT, AND THE MORE THAT HAPPENS, THE MORE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN CONVINCE TEXAS TO CONNECT OUR GRID TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I DON'T THINK WE WANT THAT HAPPENING. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> THE LAST SPEAKER IS JAMES LOCKRIDGE. >> COUNCIL, MAHER. I'M GOING TO BE VERY BLUNT AND SHORT. SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL GOT A PROBLEM. IT AIN'T THE FARMERS AND THE RANCHERS. MS. MIMS, YOU POPPED OFF THE LAST CITY COUNCILMEMBER AND SAID THAT YOU WERE WITHIN THE MEANS OF THE STATE YOU LAWS, AND YOU ALL DID YOUR RESEARCH. I ASKED WHO YOU TALKED TO? I ASKED JACK CARR WHO YOU TALKED TO. NO ONE HAS GIVEN ME THAT INFORMATION. NO ONE HAS DONE ANYTHING. I CAN TELL YOU THE VERY NEXT DAY I TALKED TO STATE REPRESENTATIVES. I TALKED A SENATOR. I TALKED TO THE FARM BUREAU. I TALKED TO EVERYBODY YOU COULD IMAGINE. 30-SOMETHING PEOPLE. NONE OF THEM SAID ANYTHING. NOT ONLY DID THAT HAPPEN, JACK CARR GOT PHONE CALLS FROM STATE REPRESENTATIVES' OFFICES SAYING THAT THIS LAW IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. I'M GOING TO ASK Y RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY IN THE CIT COUNCIL, WHO DID YOU TALK TO? WHO TOLD YOU THAT IT WAS ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE I HAVEN'T FOUND ANYBODY. NOW, I'M TIRED OF GETTING THE RUN-AROUND. I HAVE ASKED THE CITY OF PLANO TO MEET AND STEP UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING TO VISIT WITH THEIR STATE REPS. YOU HAVEN'T DONE IT. NOT ONE TIME. SHELBY WILLIAMS, THANK YOU FOR THE PHONE CALL. THANK YOU FOR CHECKING INTO IT. I HAVE SOME PAPERWORK FOR YOU. MS. HOLMER. I APPRECIATEOU T CIT COUNCIL MEMBERS STEPPING UP TO DO AND TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT IS THE RIGHT SOURCE? NOW, I TOLD YOU IF YOU ARE ON FARMING AND RANCHING, THEY BETTER DO IT TO EVERYBODY IN THE CITY BECAUSE FARMING AND RANCHING, WE'RE TIRED. E'RE TIRED OF GETTING PUSHED AROUND. WE'RE TIRED OF GETTING OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS TAKEN AWAY FROM US. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HERE. WE WERE HERE LONG BEFORE THE CITIES EVER CAME TO TEXAS. TEXAS WAS BUILT ON FARMING AND RANCHING. NOT ON LIES. TEXAS WAS BUILT ON THE PEOPLE'S BACK BONES AND THE HARD WORK THAT THEY CREATED FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS TO BE ABLE TO LIVE FREE, TO FARM, TO RANCH, TO USE THEIR LAND THE WAY THEY WANT. I'M SIMPLY JUST ASKING FOR IT TO HAPPEN. MARK, WHAT IS THE ISSUE WITH HAVING A MEETING? WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE YET. > MAYOR MUNS: MR. LOCKRIDGE. >> WE HAVEN'T HAD A MEETING YET AT ALL >> WE HAVE HAD A MEETING, AND MR. CARR AND I ARE PREPARING A LETTER TO MEET WITH YOU AT YOUR PROPERTY. AS SOON AS THAT LETTER IS FINISHED, IT SHOULD BE WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, FOR YOU TO MEET WITH YOU AT WHATEVER PROPERTY YOU CHOOSE SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THAT LETTER. I THINK THE LETTER YOU HAVE REFERRED TO A NUMBER OF TIMES IS DATED APRIL 22nd, 2022. THAT'S FROM THE STATE. THAT'S ONE OF THEM. >> WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR THAT OTHER LETTER THAT YOU HAVE JUST SO WHEN WE'RE RESPONDING WE CAN FULLY RESPOND. IF YOU ARE ABLE TO PRODUCE THAT FOR US, THAT WILL HELP US MAKE SURE AS WE'RE HAVING THAT MEETING IT'S PRODUCTIVE AS WE CAN POSSIBLY MAKE IT. AS SOON AS WE GET THAT, WE'RE BOTH MR. CARR AND I WILL BE AT - WHATEVER PROPERTY YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS. >> LET'S DO IT TOMORROW. >> WE ND TT LETTER FIRST, SIR. >> I BELIEVE THE STATE REP OFFICE HAS ALREADY SENT IT TO JACK CARR, BUT I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE, SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO GIVE IT TO YOU. >> IF YOU CAN GIVE A COPY TO ANDREW, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE A PICTURE OF IT AND TRY TO GET THAT SCHEDULED SOMETIME THIS WEEK. >> MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, WE'VE GOT AN OUTSIDE LEGAL HELPED US IN THE WATER CASE, AND IT WAS THEIR AUSTIN OFFICE WHO SPECIALIZES IN REGULATORY COMPLIANCE ISSUES. THAT OPINION, LIKE ALL LEGAL ADVICE, IS CONFIDENTIAL, BUT THERE IS ALSO AN AG OPINION THAT SUPPORTS THAT WE ARE WITHIN OUR RIGHT TO ENFORCE THAT STATE STATUTE, AND WE CAN SEND THAT TO YOU, MARC, SO YOU CAN GET THAT TO MR. LOCKRIDGE. >> THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. MEETINGS. LET'S GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT, LET'S GET IT RIGHT. THE ONLY ONE OUT OF ALL THE CITIES OF THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT HAS LITERALLY COME TO THE TABLE TO TRY TO ACCEPT AGRICULTURAL AND RANCHING IS THE CITY OF McKINNEY WHERE THEIR LAW HAS NOW CHANGED TO WHERE YOU FARM UP TO EDGE OF ROW CROP OR UP TO EDGE OF CROP, MEANING, YOU PLOW AND PLANT IT OR IT'S NATIVE PRAIRIE GRASS OR COASTAL OR -- IF A FARMER SAYS IT'S AG, IT'S AG. I'M ASKING YOU TO LOOK INTO THESE ORT UNANIMOUSES AND TRY TO MAKE THIS CORRECT FOR ALL FARMING AND RANCHING. THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MUNS: IS THAT IT? LET'S MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> THE CONSENT AGENDA, ARE. THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED ON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS THAT ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NONCONTROVERSIAL. ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSIONABLY A COUNCILMEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER, OR ANY CITIZENS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR MUNS: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8-0. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM. >> PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE-MINUTE REBUTTAL IF NEEDED. REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER. THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMESS DEEMED NECESSARY. NONPUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, THE LENGTH MUCH THE AGENDA, AND TO INSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THE REQUESTS WERE RECEIVED UNTIL THE CUMULATIVE TIME IS EXHAUSTED. ITEM NUMBER ONE, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE. AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2022-10. TO AMEND ART CAL 4 AMENDMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY, ORDINANCES NUMBER 2015-5-2 AS AMENDED. PERTAINING TO NOTICING REQUIREMENTS FOR ZONING ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENTS AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEALER CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL EXECUTIVES. I'M CHRISTINA DAY, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT ZONING CASE 2022-10. IT IS A TEXT AMENDMENT RELATED TO A RECENT LEGAL CASE. IT IS TO REAFFIRM OUR EXISTING NOTICE REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN LONG-STANDING AND REGARDING OUR PUBLIC NOTICES TO INSURE THEY ARE -- CONTINUE TO BE COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW. THE DETAILS OF THIS -- AGAIN, THERE WAS LEGAL ADVICE ON THIS RECENT COURT CASE. IT WAS THE CITY OF AUSTIN VERSUS FRANSCA ACUNA. THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 13th, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON JUNE 20th. THEN THERE WAS A CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAS MADE BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION EVERY COMMISSION ON THAT SAME NIGHT, JUNE 20th. NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR CHANGES TO THE TEXT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE DATE BACK TO 1971. THEY'VE BEEN GOING ON FOR A SIMILAR WAY FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THE STATE LAW DOES STATE VERY EXPLICITLY THAT NOTICE FOR TIME AND PLACE OF HEARING IS PUBLISHED IN AN OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER AT LEAST 15 DAYS BEFORE THE HEARING. THEN WE KIND OF UP OUR GAME AS WE LIKE TO DO IN PLANO BY SAYING NO, NO, NO, WE'RE GOING TO DO 20 DAYS PRIOR TO THE HEARING DATE. WHAT THE LEGAL CASE HAS STATED IS THAT CHANGES TO THE TEXT ORDINANCE OF THE AMENDMENT MAY BE SUBJECT TO INDIVIDUAL NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS. SO THE STATE LAW ALSO DOES PROVIDE FOR ADOPTING ANG WITHIN THE LAW, AND SO WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THAT NEWSPAPER NOTICE IS OUR ALTERNATIVE NOTICE PROCEDURE, SO WE HAVE LOOKED AT OUR ORDINANCE LANGUAGE, AND MADE SOME PROPOSALS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT THAT IS OUR ALTERNATIVE PROCEDURE. WE'RE MAKING SOME VERY MINOR TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO INSURE THAT CLARITY THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO EXCEED, BUT IT WILL MEET THE MINIMUM STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS AND NOTWITHSTANDING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE THAT ANY AMENDMENT THAT RELATES TO CHANGE OF ZONING REGULATION OR GENERAL TEXT AMENDMENT OF THE ORDINANCE WILL BE GIVEN IN A NEWSPAPER. SO THE SCOPE, AGAIN, WILL ADD LANGUAGE TO REAFFIRM OUR EXISTING NOTICE PRACTICES. IT ALSO CREATES EFFICIENCY BECAUSE IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE CHANGING OUR NOTICE PRACTICE IF WE CHOOSE NOT TO REAFFIRM THIS, WE WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH A LEGAL LETTER NOTICES. IF WE WANT TO START MAILING THOSE, WE ESTIMATE THAT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $400,000 IN HARD COSTS, AND THEN ADDITIONAL STAFFER TIME. THOSE ARE BOTH UNBUDGETED ITEMS. THAT'S THE KIND OF ALTERNATE ROUTE. IF WE WANT TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE LEGALLY, AND SO THE EFFECT OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS A CONSIDERATION OF OUR CURRENT PRACTICES AND REALLY NO CHANGE. WITH THAT, WE DID AN ANALYSIS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, LOOKED AT THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES OF PLANO TODAY, PLANO 2050, PLANO TOGETHER THAT OUR LAND USE ACTION TALKS ABOUT EVALUATING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAKING APPROPRIATE AMENDMENTS BASED ON GUIDANCE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. REALLY SEEKING COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN PARTICIPATION. IT WILL PROACTIVELY SEEK CIVIC PARTICIPATION AND ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC IN REGULAR COMMUNICATION, PROVIDE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION REGARDING POLICIES, PROGRAMS, AND DECISIONAKING USING BOTH TRADITIONAL OUTREACH METHODS AND SOCIAL MEDIA. ALTHOUGH WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO SEND CITY-WIDE LETTERS, WE WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER MEANS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO GET INFORMATION ON ZONING, SUCH AS OUR ACTIVE PETITIONS, ZONING PETITIONS WEBSITE THAT HAS A LOT OF VERY DETAILED INFORMATION ON UPCOMING ZONING CASES AND THE ZONING CASE ALERT EMAIL SYSTEM, AND THIS ONE I ACTUALLY PULLED OUT OF MY EMAIL INBOX, AN EMAIL FOR THIS CASE, A TEXT AMENDMENT. YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT WORKS. EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT, YOU JUST ISOLATE TO A SINGLE ZIP CODE, WILL YOU GET TEXT AMENDMENTS FOR THE CITY. I THINK THAT IS A FAIRLY EASY WAY TO GET INFORMATION. THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. IT WAS A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FROM P & Z. I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THIS ITEM. >> MAYOR MUNS: ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTINA? THANK YOU. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. >> MAYOR MUNS: SEEING THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS, I'LL CLOSEHE PUBLIC HEARING,ONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND THE MOTION. >> MAYOR MUNS: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. ANY COMMENTS? PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8-0. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM. >> ITEM NUMBER TWO, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THESE OR TAKING OF A PORTION OF CITY OF PLANO PUBLIC PARKLAND, KNOWN AS OAK POINT RECREATION CENTER, PURSUANT TO THE CHAPTER 26 OF THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE CODE TO APPROVE USING OF A PORTION OF DEDICATED PARKLAND AS A PERMANENT UTILITY EASEMENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENTS LOCATED AT 600 JUPITER ROAD. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>GOOD ENING, COUNCIL. MAYOR MUNS. MY NAME IS RON SMITH. I'M YOUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR. WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR AN EASEMENT AT OAK POINT PARK. IT'S LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF JUPITER ROAD AND SPRING CREEK PARKWAY NEAR THE OAK POINT RECREATION CENTER. THIS EASEMENT IS IN SUPPORT OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLANO EVENT CENTER PARCEL. OAK POINT PARK IS CITY OF PLANO PUBLIC PARK LAND, AND AS SUCH CHAPTER 26 OF THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE CODE RUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING. TWO THINGS THAT COUNCIL WILL NEED TO FIND DURING THE COURSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING: NUMBER ONE, THERE IS NO FEASIBLE AND PRUDENT ALTERNATIVE TO THE USE OR TAKING OF A PORTION OF THE PUBLIC PARK. NUMBER TWO, THAT THE MROJ INCLUDES ALL REASONABLE PLANNING TO MINIMIZE HARM TO THE PUBLIC PARK SPACE. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS PROJECT, AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT IT COMPLIES WITH THESE TWO REQUIREMENTS. THE PROJECT WAS REVIEWED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION PLANNING BOARD IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, AND THEY CONCUR WITH STAFF'S ASSESSMENT. SINCE THE CITY OF PLANO IS THE APPLICANT, MATT YAGER, THE CITY'S REAL ESTATE MANAGER, WILL PRESENT THE CASE FOR THE HEARING, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM A PARKS AND RECREATION PERSPECTIVE. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MAYOR. I'M THE CITY'S REAL ESTATE MANAGER. RON GAVE AN EXCELLENT INTRUXZ HERE. THE OAK POINT RECATIO CENTER IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF JUPITER AND SPRING CREEK PARKWAY. IT WAS BUILT IN THE YEAR OF 2000 AND RECENTLY RENOVATED IN 2017. AS RON MENTIONED, IT'S -- THIS PROJECT IS IN SUPPORT OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLANO EVENT CENTER TO THE WEST ACROSS JUPITER ROAD. THE ACTUAL EASEMENT BEING REQUESTED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS 30 FEET WIDE AND APPROXIMATELY 270 FEET EXTENDING FROM JUPITER ON TO THE NORTH LAWN OF THE OAK POINT RECREATION CENTER. CAN YOU SEE PHOTOS OF THE ALIGNMENT. ONE LOOKING EAST FROM JUPITER ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE SECOND ON THE RIGHT FROM THE EASEMENT WHERE THERE IS AN EXISTING MANHOLE THAT SERVES FOR SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY. RON HAS ALREADY ADDRESSED THE TWO REQUIREMENTS BEFORE GRANTING EASEMENT OR TAKING OF PUBLIC PARKLAND. WE DEMONSTRATED THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO FEASIBLE ALTERNATIVE TO THIS ALIGNMENT. THE SECOND BEING THAT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WORKING WITH OUR PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF HAS DONE ALL REASONABLE PLANNING TO MINIMIZE HARM THAT CAN COME ABOUT FROM THE PROPERTY THAT COULD COME FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE. TOWARDS THE FIRST REQUIREMENT OF HAVING NO FEASIBLE AND PRUDENT ALTERNATIVE, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE PHOTO IN FRONT OF YOU. IT LOOKS QUITE LIKE A MULTI-COLORED RAINBOW BOWL OF SPAGHETTI. ALL OF THOSE ARE SUB-SURFACE UTILITIES AT SPRING CREEK PARKWAY AND JUPITER ROAD. SEEING ALL OF THESE PARTICULAR CONFLICTS OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IN CONSULTATION WITH OUR HIR CONSULTANTS DETERMINE THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS THE PINK ALIGNMENT THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU THAT WILL BE BORED ACROSS JUPITER ROAD AND THEN ONCE CROSSING ABOUT 30 FEET INTO THE OAK POINT RECREATION CENTER PROPERTY OPEN CUT TO WHERE YOU WILL SEE THAT RED LINE ON THE FAR RIGHT OF THE PHOTO THAT HEADS NORTH WARDS TOWARDS THE OAK POINT PARK AND NATURE PRESERVE. THERE WAS ONE FEASIBLE -- NOT FEASIBLE, BUT NOT PARTICULARLY PRUDENT ALTERNATIVE THAT WAS VETTED THAT WOULD HAVE CROSSED . CAUSE FOR A SECOND ROUTE ACROSS SPRING CREEK PARKWAY AND INVOLVED THE TAKING OF TREES AND OTHER MORE NATURAL NATURE AT THE OAK POINT PARK AND NATURE PRESERVE THAT LIES TO THE NORTH OF THE RECREATION CENTER. THE SECOND REQUIREMENT IS ALL REASONABLE PLANNING TO MINIMIZE HARM. BEING A SUB-SURFACE EASEMENT, THIS -- THE PRIMARY CONFLICT WILL BE DURING CONSTRUCTION WHEN THE LAWN WILL BE OPENED UP SO THAT THE LINE CAN BE PUT UNDERNEATH THE GROUND. UPON HAVING IT INSTALLED, THE SURFACE WILL BE RESTORED TO ITS PRIOR CONDITION. THE ONLY REAL HARM COMING FROM THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO OCCUR WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WHERE THERE ARE TWO TREES THAT ARE SLATED TO BE REMOVED. THE TURF AND LAWN WILL BE RESTORED TO THE POINT WHERE THE AERAGE PARK USERS ARE, THE AVERAGE RECREATION PATRON WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TELL THERE'S A DIFFERENCE THERE. ALSO DURING THE INSTALLATION OF THE SEWER LINE IT'S WELL NORTH OF ALL ACTIVITIES THAT OCCUR AT OAK POINT RECREATION CENTER. WHE IT MIGHT BE UNSIGHTLY, IT WILL BE QUICKLY ADDRESSED AND WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH ANY ACTIVITIES ON THE ACTUAL PARCEL ITSELF. GIVEN THAT THAT IS THE CASE, TONIGHT WE'RE HERE TO ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? >> NOT A QUESTION. I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. >> MAYOR MUNS: GOOD FOR YO THOUGH ANTHONY. A VERY PROUD MOMENT. COUNCILMAN GRADY. >> I'M HAVE JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TURF IS AL GOING TO BE PUT BACK AT THE END OF THE PROJECT, SO YOU REALLY WON'T BE ABLE TO TELL THAT THERE WAS ANYTHING THERE OTHER THAN MAYBE THE TURF IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT COLOR AT THE TIME. IT INDICATED ALSO THAT IT WAS GOING TO CROSS THE ROADWAY, AND THE ROADWAY WAS JUST RESURFACED NOT TOO LONG AGO. IS IT GOING TO BE RUN UNDERNEATH THE ROADWAY OR ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO REMOVE THE ROADWAY AND REPLACE IT? >> IT WILL BE BORED UNDERNEATH THE ROADWAY SO THE WON INVOLVE ANY CUTTING OR OPENING UP OF JUPITER ROAD. >> PERFECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THERE WE GO. >> DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? >> THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. >> MAYOR MUNS: I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONFINE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. >> I JUST WANTED TO COMPLIMENT MANAGER YAGER AND DIRECTOR SMITH. THIS WAS REALLY THOROUGH AND STHOED A GREAT LEVEL OF THOUGHT ABOUT HOW TO DO THIS IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE. I MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND THE MOTION. >> MAYOR MUNS: I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. ANY COMMENTS? PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8-0. NEXT ITEM. >> ITEM NUMBER THREE. PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2022-23 RECOMMENDED BY THE PHYSICIAN DPAL YEAR 2022 PROPOSED COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM. >> GOOD EVENING. KAREN ROADS-WHITLEY BUDGET DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF PLANO. WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT AGENDA ITEMS WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH WITH YOU ALL. THIS ONE IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET WHICH TOTALS $677 MILLION, AND THE PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH TOTALS $330 MILLION. THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MAY MUNS: OPENING, HUH? OKAY. THATWAS -- I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> I HAVE ONE SPEAKER. >> MAYOR MUNS: ALL RIGHT. >> CECIL RED. >> I FEEL PRIVILEGED. IT'S JUST ME. GOOD EVENING. I'M CECIL RED. I HAVE LIVED IN PLANO SINCE 1998. I AM A TENNIS PLAYER. ANY OTHER TENNIS PLAYERS HERE? AT GLENEAGLES.BELIEVE YOU PLAYED >> MAYOR MUNS: IT'S BEEN A WHILE. >> ANYBODY ELSE? RAISE YOUR HAND. THREE OF US. HOW ABOUT THAT? WELL GREAT. >> MAYOR MUNS: YOU WANT TO ASK ABOUT PICKLE BALL? >> ACTUALLY, I HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET. I'M HERE TO REQUEST THAT INCLUDED IN THE CITY BUDGET UNDER THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT A CONTINGE ENSY FOR $25,000 TO EVALUATE AND THEN INSTALL MISTING FANS ON THE CHANGEOVER BENCHES AT HIGH POINT TENNIS CENTER. THOSE OF THAW DON'T PLAY TENNIS OR HAVE SEEN IT ON TV, AFTER EVERY OTHER GAME OR SO THEY SIT DOWN? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AT HIGH POINT THERE IS AN AWNING. IT WILL HAVE A BUNCH ON EITHER SIDE. IT'S BEEN REALLY HOT. IT'S BEEN HOT FOR A LONG TIME. IT SEEMS TO BE GETTING HOTTER. I THINK WE'RE JUST HEADED TOWARDS SOME KIND OF TERRIBLE CATASTROPHE SOMETIME. I WAS THINKING THAT IT MIGHT BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE THESE MISTING FANS. ABOUT A MONTH AGO THE EXCELLENT ON SITE STAFF AT HIGH POINT REQUESTED PARKS AND RECREATION TO TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO. THE RESPONSE WAS CAVALIER AT BEST. NOBODY CAME OUT. THEY JUST CAME BY AND SAID, NO, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR THAT. THEY DIDN'T EVEN TAKE THE TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE AND HOW MUCH IT MIGHT COST. I JUST TOOK -- I WASHED MY CAR OVER AT THE CAR WASH JUST NORTH OF PLANO PARKWAY, SAYS AND THEY INSTLEDOMEISTI FANS FOR THEIR STAFF. THEY HAD A BID FOR $17,000 FOR 16 MISTING FANS. AT HIGH POINT THERE ARE 21 COURTS AND THEN TEN STATIONS WHERE THIS MIGHT GO WHERE THE AWNINGS ARE ON THE CHANGE-OVER, SO THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 20 OF THESE FANS, SO I FIGURE $25,000 OUGHT TO GET IT. THIS IS INCLUDING INSTALLATION. NOT JUST BUYING THE FANS, BUT INCLUDING INSTALLATION. McKINNEY, FRISCO, AND EVEN ANNA HAVE EITHER INDOOR COURTS OR pC. HERE AT PLANO EVEN GLENEAGLES DOESN'T HAVE THESE MISTERS. I THINK WE COULD STEP UP AND KEEP THIS A NICE PLACE TO LIVE, MAYBE KEEPING SOMEBODY FROM HAVING A HEAT ISSUE. LET'S SEE. THAT'S ABOUT IT. I -- ANY QUESTIONS? >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU ALL. >> >> MAYOR MUNS: YOU BET. ANY FINAL COMMENTS FROM COUNTS AND KAREN? SXWLOO OKAY. THIS IS -- I'M SORRY. DO YOU WANT TO READ IT? >> I'LL READ IT FOR YOU. CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE CERTIFIED APPRAISAL ROLE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022-23 FOR COLLIN COUNTY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> OKAY. I HAVE SOME VERY EXCITING SLIDES TO SHOW YOU HERE IN A MINUTE. LET'S TALK REAL QUICK ABOUT THE APPRAISAL ROLE. RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE COLLIN COUNTY, WHICH IS CERTIFIED. DENTON COUNTY STILL HAS NOT CERTIFIED, SO THE NUMBERS I'M GOING TO SLOW YOU TONIGHT ARE THE SAME ONES THAT YOU SAW JULY 27th. SUPPOSEDLY THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CERTIFIED TOWARDS THE END OF AUGUST, SO HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT CERTIFICATION AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. REAL QUICK, THIS IS A LOOK AT WHERE WE STAND TODAY WITH COLLIN CERTIFIED AND, OF COURSE, WE'RE WAITING ON DENTON, BUT YOU'RE AT $51.9 BILLION FOR YOUR TAXABLE VALUE. YOU STILL HAVE NEW PROPERTY COMING IN AT $573 MILLION. YOUR TOTAL ROLL IS GOING TO INCREASE OR CHANGE IN VALUE $4.2 BILLION, AND YOUR CHANGE IN YOUR BASE IS $3.7 BILLION. THIS IS ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT IT. $51.9 BILLION IN ASSESSED PROPERTY VALUES. YOUR CHANGE IN TAXABLE, 3.7 VERSUS YOUR NEW GROWTH. LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS OUR MARKET VALUE FOR OUR HOME INCREASED PRACTICALLY 25%. THE MAIN REASON THAT YOUR CHANGE IS GOING ON IS BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY VALUES RESIDENTIALLY ARE GOING UP VERSUS YOUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. LOOK BACK. 2021. 5% OF YOUR ROLL WAS COMING IN FROM THE COMMERCIAL GROWTH -- COMMERCIAL VALUES, AND IT WAS 47% ON RESIDENTIAL. THAT IS STARTING TO SHIFT. 51% IS COMING IN FROM COMMERCIAL, AND 49% FOR RESIDENTIAL. BASICALLY EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE MOST OF YOUR NEW GROWTH THAT'S GOING ON COMMERCIAL, THE COMMERCIAL IS BASICALLY STABILIZED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. LAST YEAR IT ACTUALLY WENT DOWN. WITH THE RESIDTIAL PRORTY VALUES GOING UP. ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THIS. $573 MILLION IS YOUR NEW GROWTH. OUT OF THAT NEW GROWTH 12% GREW ON RESIDENTIAL. COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTED FOR 88% OF THAT GROWTH. YOU'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR. NOW, LET'S GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM. $3.7 BILLION IN EXISTING PROPERTY VALUES ARE GOING UP. OUT OF THAT 3.7, 68% OF THAT IS ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE WITH 32% ON YOUR COMMERCIAL SIDE. NOW LO. LAST YEAR YOUR RESIDENT PROPERTY VALUES WENT UP 181% OVER WHAT THEY HAD DONE THE YEAR BEFORE, BUT YOUR COMMERCIAL VALUES HAD DECLINED. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY TAX ROLL. THIS IS JUST A LOOK OVERALL PROPERTY TAX REVENUES ARE COMING IN AT $221 MILLION. HALF OF THAT IS GOING FOR RESIDENTIAL. 39% IS GOING FOR YOUR COMMERCIAL, AND 11.6% IS GOING FOR MULTI-FAMILY. WITHIN THE DOCUMENT WE HAVE THAT YOUR REVENUES ARE INCREASING AND THE GENERAL FUND AND GEODEBT BY $211 MILLION. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT 221 AND 211 IS BECAUSE WE OWE INTO TIFFS AND WE ALSO TAKE OFF THE SAVINGS FOR THE OVER 65 TAX FREEZE THAT COMES OUT OF THAT. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE ON THAT. LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME GOOD NEWS HERE. WHEN THE CHIEF APPRAISERS COME OUT WITH THEIR ROLE, THEY GIVE US WHAT THE AVERAGE MARKET VALUE IS. THE AVERAGE MARKET VALUE ON A HOME THIS YEAR IS $493,960. OUT OF ALL OF THAT WE HAVE TOTAL EXEMPTIONS ON BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL THAT TOTALS $12.5 BILLION. THAT COMES OFF YOUR ROLE. THAT PRODUCES ANNUAL SAVINGS OF $53 MILLION, AND THEN THE OVER 65 OR 65 AND OVER EXEMPTION ACCOUNTS FOR SAVINGS OF $6.1 MILLION. THIS IS THE SLIDE THAT WE SHOWED Y'ALL A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK. THIS IS BASED ON THE MARKET VALUE OF THE HOME. LAST FRIDAY I WAS FILLING OUT THE PAPERWORK I'M ABOUT TO SHOW YOU THAT NEEDS TO BE FILLED OUT. IN LOOKING AT THE BOXES, IT SAYS TO SHOW THE AVEGE HOMESTEADED VALUE WHEN YOU GO AND DO THIS, I CALL IT BO DAPP AND HIMSELF. LAST YEAR'S AVERAGE HOMESTEADED VALUE WAS $315,000. THIS YEAR IT'S $338,000. WHAT IS ALREADY BUILT INTO THESE NUMBERS IS THE 20%. IN ADDITION, THE 10% CAP BECAUSE HOME OWNERS WILL ONLY PAY ON THEIR TAXABLE VALUE UP TO 10%. INITIALLY WE HAD ANOTHER SLIDE IN HERE THAT SHOWED, HEY, LAST YEAR OUR AVERAGE VALUE WAS $396 STHOUS. IF IT'S ONLY ALLOWED TO GROW 10%, EMPLOY WE HAD A WHOLE OTHER SLIDE, AND IT SHOWED THE INCREASE WOULD BE $72. THESE ARE THE AMOUNTS THAT ARE - GOING TO GO INTO THE NEWSPAPER THIS NEXT WEEK, THE AVERAGE INCREASE ON A HOMESTEADED PROPERTY IS $36. ADD THE 42.65 CENTS. THIS IS A LOT BETTER THAN $268. NOW, THAT'S THE RECOMMENDED RATE. LET'S GO -- IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, WHICH, BY THE WAY, CAME IN AT 41.76 CENTS, IT SHOWS AN INCREASE OF $6. ANY THOUGHTS ON THESE SLIDES? I JUST THINK IT'S A LOT BETTER NEWS. [LAUGHING] >> MAYOR MUNS: MUCH BETTER NEWS. >> NO KIDDING. YES, MR. WILLIAMS. >> THANK YOU FOR THESE UPDATED >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> IT EASES MY HEART PALPITATIONS. I AM -- I'M INFERRING THAT THE SLIGHTLY INCREASED TAX BILL WITH THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS BECAUSE THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY VALUES HAVE INCREASED MORE THAN COMMERCIAL PROPERTY VALUES. >> THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS DEFINITELY CORRECT. IT DOESN'T MATTER -- I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE BEEN READING THE NEWSPAPERS, AND OTHER INFORMATION FROM THE OTHER CITIES WERE ALL COMING OUT WITH THE SAME INFORMATION. BECAEHE HOUSING VALUES HAVE INCREASED, EVEN IF YOU GO WITH THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, THEY WILL SEE A SMALL INCREASE IN THEIR PROPERTY TAX BILL. >> BECAUSE IT'S AN AING GAT CALCULATION. >> HE WE DON'T HAVE SEPARATED OUT COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL. >> OKAY. THAT'S OUR GOOD NEWS. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. OH, I AM SO SORRY. OKAY. YES, YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS, BUT JUST REMEMBER, THIS IS YOUR COLLIN COUNTY SIDE. NOT DENTON. WE WILL BRING BACK THE DENTON. >> GO AHEAD. >> HOW WILL THESE NUMBERS THAT YOU TOLD US POTENTIALLY CHANGE WITH GETTING THE DENT-ON-NUMBERS ARE, OR WILL THEY NOT CHANGE THAT MUCH SINCE WE HAVE SUCH A SMALL PERCENTAGE? >> I'M GOING HARD-OF-HEARING. CAN YOU -- >> YEAH. >> KAREN AND I HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE IMPACT OF DENTON COUNTY ON THESE NUMBERS. >> OH, THAT'S THE IMPACT. YES. WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED ROLL FROM THEM. NOTHING -- THEY ONLY HAVE -- YOU HAVE OVER 92,000 PROPERTIES ON THE COLLIN SIDE. YOU ONLY HAVE 2,000 ON THE DENTON SIDE. OUT OF THAT YOU ONLY HAVE 1.4 BILLION THAT'S THE KENT DEBTON VERSUS YOUR 50-SOMETHING OVER HERE ON THE COLLIN. WHEN WE GET IT, IT IS GOING TO CHANGE YOUR NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT DRASTI IT'S JUST NOT. >> MAYOR MUNS: OKAY. WE NEED A MOTION FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION. >> I SHALL MAKE THAT MOTION. >> MAYOR MUNS: QUITE FRANKLY, JUST THE COLLIN COUNTY TAX. >> I SHALL MAKE THAT MOTION. >> I'LL SECOND. >> MAYOR MUNS: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM THREE. 4. OKAY. NOW IT'S 4. OKAY. THE RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT FERTFIED APPRAISAL ROLL. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE. ALL OPPOSED, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8-0 TO ACCEPT THE CERTIFIED APPRAISAL ROLL. NEXT ITEM, FIVE. >> DISCSION AND DIRECTION REGARDING PROPOSED AD VALOREM TAX RATE. >> TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT WHERE Y'ALL WILL DECIDE ON WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A FORM THAT WILL BE GOING INTO THE PAPER. IT WILL ANNOUNCE WHAT YOUR NEW REVENUE RATE, YOUR VOTER APPROVAL RATE, AND THEN YOUR RECOMMENDED RATE. YOU CAN NOT GO UP FROM THE RATE Y'ALL DECIDE TONIGHT, BUT YOU CAN GO DOWN. WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE. TEXAS PROPERTY T LS TRUTH IN TAXATIONS, WHAT IT'S KNOWN BY. PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR INCREASES AND THEIR PROPERTY'S APPRAISED VAULSZ AND TO BE NOTIFIED OF ESTIMATED TAXES THAT COULD RESULT IN THE NEW VALUE. A TAXING UNIT MUST PUBLISH ITS NO NEW TAX RATE AND VOTER APPROVAL RATE BEFORE ADOPTING AN ACTUAL TAX RATE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS NEXT WEEK. A TAXING UNIT MUST PUBLISH SPECIAL NOTICES AND HOLD ONE PUBL HEARING BEFE ADOPTING A TAX RACE THAT EXCEEDS THE LOWER OF THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE OR THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE AND THE TAXING UNIT IS REQUIRED TO HOLD AN ELECTION. IF YOU APPROVE A TAX RATE THAT GOES OVER THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RACE. THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE IS CALCULATED RATE THAT WOULD PROVIDE A TAXING UNIT THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUES IT RECEIVED IN THE YEAR BEFORE ON PROPERTIES TAXED IN BOYTHE YEARS. IF PROPERTIES RISE, THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE WILL GO DOWN AND VICE VERSA. THE RESULTING TAX RATE SHOWS A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN LAST YEAR'S REVENUE AND CURRENT YEAR'S PROPERTY APPRAISALS. THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, AND THIS IS CERTIFIED CAME IN AT 41.76 CENTS. THIS IS THE SEESAW EFFECT WHEN YOU YOUR APPRAISED PROPERTY VALUES GO UP, YOUR NNR GOES DOWN. SAY IF NEXT YEAR THE APPRAISED PROPERTY VALUES START GOING DOWN, THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE WILL GO UP. YOUR VOTER APPROVAL RATE, FORMERLY CALLED THE ROLL BACK TAX RATE IS THE CALCULATED MAXIMUM TAX RATE ALLOWED BY LAW WITHOUT VOTER APPROVAL. THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE PROVIDED CITIES WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF TAX REVENUE SPENT IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR FOR DATE TO DAY OPERATIONS, AND YOU ADD ON 3.5% FOR OPERATIONS. YOUUST HAVE AN ECTION IF YOUR ADOPTED TAX RATE EXCEEDS THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, YOUR VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE CAME IN AT 43.77 CENTS. OUR TAX RATE HAS TWO DIFFERENT PARTS. YOU HAVE YOUR SERVICE PART. THAT HAS TO BE PAID FIRST. WHENEVER YOU ARE CALCULATING THE RATE, WE ALWAYS GO TO DEBT FIRST. GET THAT COMPLETELY PAID. ANYTHING ELSE CAN FUND YOUR OPERATIONS. THIS IS THE WAY WE ARE LOOKING -- THIS IS THE WAY YOU LOOKED BACK IN THE CITY MANAGER RECOMMENDED BUDGET THAT WAS PRODUCED ON JULY 27th. THE OPERATING MAINTENANCE RATE IS 31.15 CENTS. THAT'S DOWN BY 2.15 CENTS OVER LAST YEAR OR THE CURRENT YEAR'S RATE OF 33.30. IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, WE'VE ALREADY GOT IT'S AT 11.5. SECURE.- WE WOULD TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE OPERATING PART OF THE GENERAL FUND IN ORDER TO GET DOWNO 30.26 CENTS ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE. RIGHT NOW YOU'RE AT 42.65 CENTS. WE WOULD NEED TO GO IN AND REMOVE ABOUT $4 MILLION OUT OF THE OPERATING BUDGET IN ORDER TO GET DOWN TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. ONCE AGAIN, HERE'S A LOOK AT ALL OF WHAT I JUST SAID. 41.76 CENTS IS YOUR NO NEW REVENUE RATE. 43.77 CENTS IS THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE. THE PROPOSED RATE IS 42.65 CENTS. WE WOULD NEED ABOUT $4.5 MILLION TO REDUCE IT. OKAY? THIS IS JUST A CHART SHOWING THE DIFFERENCE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WHERE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE OR EFFECTIVE TAX RATE WAS COMPARED TO THE ACTUAL TAX RATE. YES SIR. >> I'M SORRY. I WAS JUST SCRATCHING MY HEAD. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING SO RESPONSIVE. >> I WANT TO REMIND ESPECIALLY THE VIEWING PUBLIC, WE OFFER A 20% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. THIS YEAR ALONE THAT IS $422 IN SAVINGS. ON YOUR ROLL WE HAVE ABOUT 75,000 RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. ONLY 50 HAVE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. OUT OF THAT 50 YOU HAVE 18,000 THAT HAVE THE TAX FREEZE. THIS YEAR ALONE THAT TAX FREEZE IS $332 SAVINGS. SEE, THAT'S A LOT OF SAVINGS WHEN YOU GO IN AND YOU HAVE YOUR HOMESTEADED PROPERTY. OKAY. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TONIGHT. TONIGHT YOU WILL BE DISCUSSING WHAT YOUR TAX RATE CEILING IS GOING TO BE. WHEN IT'S WHETHER IT'S THE 42.65 THAT MARK HAS INCLUDED IN HIS RECOMMENDED BUDGET, IF IT'S THE -- A LOT OF CITIES WILL GO IN AND DO THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE JUST KNOWING THAT THEY CAN COME DOWN. WHATEVER YOU DECIDE YOU CAN'T GO UP. YOU CAN GO DOWN. NOW, LET ME SHOW YOU THE FORM. OH, AND WE ALSO NEED TO ANNOUNCE HEARING. IF YOU SGID TO GO DOWN TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT MOST OF THE TIME WE HAVE ONE ANYWAY. WE LIKE TO ANNOUNCE WHEN THE DATE IS GOING TO BE, AND IT'S ON THE FORM. NOW, THIS IS THE FORM THAT YOU CAN BARELY SEE. I JUST WANT YOU TO NOTICE AT THE TOP. THIS IS THE FORM THAT IS FILLED OUT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE AT THE 42.65 CENTS. IF Y'ALL DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO DO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, IT'S A DIFFERENT FORM. ON THAT FORM, INSTEAD OF NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING OF TAX INCREASE, IT SAYS NOTICE OF MEETING TO VOTE ON TAX RATE. YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT FORMS HERE. NOW, ALL THE FORMS WILL BE -- YOU'LL TAKE A RECORD VOTE. WHOEVER VOTES FOR IT, AGAINST IT, OR ABSTAINS, ALL -- YOUR NAMES ARE GOING TO BE WRITTEN ON THIS FORM. IT DOES GO INTO THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS. NO MATTER WHICH FORM WE USE, THIS IS THE BOTTOM PORTION OF THE FORM. THE TOTAL TAX RATE RIGHT NOW, WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR AND WHAT IT WAS THIS YEAR, AND THIS IS HOW WE STARTED FIGURING OUT WE COULD USE THAT AVERAGE HOMESTEADED TAXABLE VALUE. IT'S CLEARLY WRITTEN ON THE STATE COMPTROLLER'S FORMS THAT THAT'S THE RATE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE USING. THAT'S WHERE I CAME UP WITH THE 315,330. GOING UP TO 338,499. YOU GO IN AND AVERAGE OUT THE TAX. IT'S AN INCREASE OF $36. WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE? YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME LIKE UH-OH. >> MAYOR MUNS: COUNCILMEMBER RICCIARDIELLI. >> I GUESS IF YOU WANT TO GO FIRST, THAT'S -- AFTER YOU. AFTER YOU, COUNCILMEMBER GRADY. >> I BELIEVE IN -- MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND CERTAINLY CAN CORRECT ME, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME AS WELL. I BELIEVE THAT WE STILL HAVE DISCUSSIONS TO BE HAD ON THE BUDGET. WE HAVE A DISCUSSION, I BELIEVE ON THIS SATURDAY. WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION AFTER THAT WHEN WE COME TO A CONCLUSION. I THINK DURING THOSE DISCUSSIONS WE MIGHT HAVE SOME DECISIONS TO BE MADE ON THE BUDGET, AND THAT MAYED MAKE US CHANGE OUR MIND AS TO WHAT THE TAX RATE SHOULD BE, SO I THINK TO BE AS FLEXIBLE AS POSSIBLE DURING THIS PROCESS AS WE'RE STILL HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE THE RECOMMENDED RATE OF .4256 SO THAT WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AS WE HAVE OUR DISCUSSIONS. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL START BY SAYING THAT I'M ALSO FINE WITH PUBLISHING THE CITY MANAGERS RECOMMENDED RATE OF 42.65 AND PRESERVING FLEXIBILITY FOR OUR CONTINUING DISCUSSIONS. ESPECIALLY THE WORKSHOP ON SATURDAY. I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, KAREN, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE IORMAON Y'VE BEEN PROVIDING. IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. IF YOU COULD REMIND ME, IN THE REESTIMATE OF SALES TAX REVENUE, WE'RE US USING 10 MONTHS OF ACTUALS AND THEN WE HAVE TWO MONTHS WHERE WE'RE USING THE BUDGETED AMOUNT TO FILL IN BECAUSE THOSE MONTHS HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET. IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, THAT IS CORRECT. JUST FOR Y'ALL'S INFORMATION, ON SATURDAY I WILL BE GIVING A FULL DISCUSSION REGARDING SALES TAX. THAT YOUR SALES TAX WE HAVE, OF COURSE, THE THREE-YEAR CAP. THAT'S A CITY COUNC POLICY. WHETHER WE GO TO BUDGET OUR SALES TAX, OUR THREE-YEAR ANNUAL PROJECTION WAS $87 MILLION. YEAR-TO-DATE THROUGH NOW PLUS I'VE ADDED ON A 5% INCREASE FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS, YOU END UP AT $104 MILLION. THAT IS INCLUDED WITHIN THE RECOMMENDED REESTIMATE. THAT REVENUE, JUST LIKE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, JUST LIKE BUILDING A DEVELOPMENT RELATED REVENUE, THAT HAS GONE TO FUND OUR REESTIMATED EXPENDITURES AND NEXT YEAR'S BUDGETED EXPENDITURES. NOW, ON THE -- FOR THE '22/'23, WE'RE USING THE THREE-YEAR CAP, BUT WE HAVE ADDED AN INFLATIONARY FACTOR ON TO THAT BECAUSE IF WE WERE TO DO THE THREE-YEAR, IT WOULD GO DOWN TO $95 MILLION, AND WE DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS REALISTIC. THANK YOU FOR THAT, KAREN. I AGREE. INFLATION HAS CHANGES THINGS SUCH THAT COMPARISONS TO TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO ARE NOT APPLES TO APPLES ANYMORE GIVEN THE HIGH INFLATION ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE IN. I THINK THAT WAS A PRUDENT POLICY. I WAS JUST GOING TO -- SINCE COUNCILMEMBER GRADY WENT AHEAD AND MADE COMMENTS, I'LL CONSOLIDATE MY COMMENTS OR WAIT TO MAKE COMMENTS UNTIL EVERYONE HAS ASKED QUESTIONS. INCORPORATED. I WANT TO SAY I THINK IN REVIEWING THIS, THIS IS ALREADY A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE BUDGET. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO CITY MANAGER ISRAELSON, DIRECTOR RHODES WHITLEY AND THE WHOLE CITY ORGANIZATION FOR THAT. I ALSO WOULD POINT OUT THAT WE'VE HAD $18 MILLION IN ARPA FUNDS TS YEAR. WE'VE GOT IN THE REESTIMATE A $17.3 MILLION SALES TAX INFLUENCE EVERY SPLURS THAT WE'VE ALREADY BUDGETED. AS WE HAVE THE ARPA FUNDS AS WELL, OF COURSES, ON PUBLIC SAFETY SALARIES. WE MAY ALSO HAVE FUNDS COMING TO US FROM DART, AND WE MAY HAVE A FURTHER SALES TAX SURPLUS IF TRENDS CONTINUE AND THE REMAINING TWO MONTHS OF THE YEAR ARE EVEN HIGHER THAN THE 5% THAT'S BUILT IN AS THE PRECEDING TEN MONTHS HAVE BEEN. I THINK THAT PROVIDES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL RELIEF TO PLANO RESIDENTS IN A DIFFICULT ECONOMIC TIME. VERY LIKELY WHILE STILL DOING ALL OF THE PROJECTS IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, SO ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT INCREASES IN VALUATIONS ON EXISTING PROPERTIES HAVE HIT RESIDENTIAL HOMEOWNERS MUCH HARDER THAN COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE MARKET HAS GONE AND HOW THAT'S DRIVEN APPRAISALS. I BET SOMETHING THAT I WOULD FAVOR DOING BY GETTING DOWN TO THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. OBVIOUSLY, I'M FINE NOTICING THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED RATE, BUT I THI THAT AS OUR DISCUSSIONS CONTINUE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ADVOCATE MOVING TOWARDS. >> COUNCILMAN SMITH. I'LL JUST HAVE COUNCILMEMBER HOLMER AND WILLIAMS, WE'LL JUST COME BACK THIS WAY. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE ONE THING THAT I THINK THAT WE MAY BE FORGETTING ABOUT AND I THINK IS WORTH MENTIONING IS THAT A LOT OF US KNOW THAT WE'RE RUNNING RIGHT NOW AT ABOUT OVER 9% INFLATION RATE. IT VARIES, BUT IT'S GOING UP THERE. WHEN I FIRST SAW THESE NUMBERS, I HAD TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN. THIS CAN'T BE RIGHT. WE'RE -- OVERALL WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR ABOUT A 4% INCREASE WE'RE DOING THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE DO AS TO PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO. WE'RE ADDING 23 AND RECOMMENDING 23 -- >> PUBLIC SAFETY. PUBLIC SAFETY PERSNEL. WE'RE STILL COMING IN AT A RATE OF INCREASE. IF THIS IS THE WAY IT ENDS UP AT LESS THAN HALF OF WHAT THE RATE OF INFLATION HAS BEEN. I KNOW WE'VE HAD CALLS INCREASE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. I REALLY WANT TO COMMEND MARK AND THE STAFF AND YOUR FOLKS FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR COMING TOGETHER AND BRINGING US A STARTING POINT THAT IS -- I THINK THAT'S BETTER THAN WE COULD HAVE ASKED FOR. I KNOW WE DISCUSSIONS, AND I WOULD CHALLENGE MARK AND KAREN TO GIVE US IDEAS. IF YOU SEE IF THERE'S ANY FEASIBLE WAY, WE CAN'T GO UP, WE CAN ALWAYS COME DOWN. WE CAN LOWER THAT RATE, I'M WITH YOU ON IT, WHERE JUST DO THE GOOD WORK THAT YOU DO FOR US, AND WE'LL GET MORE IDEAS ON SATURDAY AND MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE. THANKS AGAIN FOR GIVING US THIS GREAT STARTING POINT AND MAKES OUR JOB A LOT EASIER. >> VERY GOOD. >> I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMEMBER GRADY AND SPMITH SAID. I KNOW WE CAN COME DOWN, BUT WE CAN'T GO UP. $36 FOR AN AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD OF AN INCREASE TO ME SEEMS PRETTY REASONABLE. YOU SAID WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE TO CUT $4 MILLION IF WE WENT DOWN. IS THAT CORRECT? >> IF Y'ALL LEAN THAT WAY, WE WILL COME BACK. MARK HAS ALREADY DISCUSSED IT WITH THEM WITH ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS AND RECREATION. WE WILL GO BACK INTO THE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUND, AND THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON IT. SOME OF THE PROJECTS W CAN DELAY TO OTHER YEARS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE $37 MILLION COMING IN FROM THE GENERAL FUND. WE WOULD GO DOWN TO $33 MILLION COMING IN FROM THE GENERAL FUND. THE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUND, AS LONG AS WE KEEP $20 MILLION THEN THAT FUND BALANCE TO US, THAT IS THE FUND BALANCE POLICY. WE WILL BE GOOD TO GO. MARK, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BUDGET WAS WE'VE GONE THROUGH OUR PROGRAMS AND SERVICES. WE'VE GONE THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENTS AND HAD A NUMBER OF DISCUSSIONS. AS I HAVE SHARED WITH EACH ARE YOU WHEN WE LAID THIS OUT, IT OUR BUDGET IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN PLANO THAN MOST CITIES IN THAT WE BALANCE NOT ONLY OUR PERSONNEL, BUT ALSO OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES, OUR PROGRAMS AND SERVICES, OUR INTRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS AFFORDABILITY EACH AND EVERY YEAR. MY CONCERN IS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE ASKED ME TO BALANCE THOSE, THAT WE'RE WAITING EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE WITH EQUAL VALUE. EXLLEN, IT COMES DOWN TO TY OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES. IT COMES DOWN TO OUR PEOPLE. IT COMES DOWN TO PLAIN TAKENING THOSE FINANCIAL POLICIES TO WE DO HAVE A TRIPLE-A BOND RATING. IT'S MAKING SURE WE TAKE CARE OF THE INTRA STRUCTURE AND NOT LET IT DEGRADE TO A POINT WHERE IT COSTS MORE IN THE FUTURE THAN IT DOES TODAY. FINALLY, IT ALSO ALWAYS MATTERS ABOUT THE AFFORDABILITY AND THE VALUE WHICH IS NOT ONLY THE REVENUE THAT IT COSTS, BUT THE CORRESPONDING PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT GOES WITH THAT. THAT IS THE VALUE OF THE CITY OF PLANO AS COMPARED TO ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES. IF YOU LOOK AT DALLAS, WHICH IS CLOSTO 77 CENTS, IF YOU LOOK AT FORT WORTH, 71 CENTS. IF YOU LOOK AT ARLINGTON, WHICH IS OVER 60 CENTS, AND IRVING WHICH IS CLOSE TO 60 CENTS. IF YOU LOOK AT EVERY OTHER CITY IN COLLIN COUNTY OF SIZE WE HAVE THE LOWEST RATE. OF THOSE BIG CITIES WE ARE THE LOWEST RATE. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SERVICES, WOULD I COMPARE THEM TO ANY CITY FAVORABLY. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE VALUE PROP SDMRIGS OF THE CITY OF PLANO. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS PUSHING PROJECTS OUT SENDS A MESSAGE THAT SOME PROJECTS AREN'T GOING TO GET DONE. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHINGE NEED TO TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY BECAUSE BEING PROACTIVE ABOUT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND OUR POLICIES AND OUR PEOPLE AND EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN A HALLMARK OF THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE. I WOULD JUST CAUTION THE COUNCIL, THE RECOMMENDATION IS THE RECOMMENDATION. CAN WE DO IT, YES, WE CAN. THE COUNCIL HAS TO DECIDE IF WE DO IT. >> IN A MEETING WE HAD NOT TOO LONG AGO YOU GAVE A GREAT COMPARISON THAT IN THE CITY OF PLANO THAT WE PAY ABOUT THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD I THINK YOU GAVE ME THE NUMBER OF $1,400 A Y WATER SERVICES. 1,400? OH, I SEE IT. THAT'S LESS THAN A LOT OF PEOPLE PAY FOR THEIR HOA DUES. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE THAT THE CITY HAS DONE SUCH A GREAT JOB KEEPING OUR TAX RATE LOW AND OUR SERVICES EXCEPTIONAL. I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF DOING WHAT MR. GRADY SAID AND GOING AHEAD WITH THE HIGHER RATE JUST SO WE HAVE ROOM DURING OUR DISCUSSION ON SATURDAY IF OTHER THINGS COME UP THAT MAYBE WE HADN'T TALKED ABOUT. WE CAN ALWAYS GO DOWN. THANK YOU. >> A COUPLE QUICK THINGS I WANT TO SAY. I WOULD LIKE TO ACHIEVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT CAN BE OVERSTATED JUST HOW MUCH CREDIT YOU ALL ARE DUE -- KAREN, MARK, DENISE, ALL THE STAFF -- BECAUSE AS COUNCILMAN RICCIARDIELLI SAID, THIS IS A VERY FISCALLY-RESPONSIBLE BUDGET, AND AS COUNCILMAN SMITH INDICATED, DOUBLY SO GIVEN THE MOST RECENT RATE OF 9.YEARVER-AR -- 9.1% YEAR-OVER-YEAR INFLATION. THAT IS AN INCREDIBLY FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE BUDGET. AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT CAN BE OVERSTATED. YOU HAVE ALL DONE IS FANTASTIC WORK ON THIS. WERE IT ANY OTHER YEAR THAT IN THIS INFLATIONARY ENVIRONMENT OR THE PAST TWO OF THE PANDEMIC, SO WITH SOME ADDITIONAL CAVEATS, I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM PASSING THIS. BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT INFLATION, BECAUSE OUR PEOPLE ARE SEEING INCREASED COSTS EVERYWHERE, I DO WANT TO TRY TO ACHIEVE THE NO NEWEVEN RATE. I FULLY UNDERSTND THE TRADE-OFFS INVOLVED, AND I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT THIS INFLATIONARY ENVIRONMENT DOES NOT PERSIST FOR TOO LONG. >> I ALSO WOULD SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDED RATE. THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE WITH ME. IT IS AN ISSUE WITH ME WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY CUTTING $4 MILLION FROM THE PROJECTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN E WORKS. NOT THAT SKIMPING AND STINGY AND PENNY-PINCHING IS NOT A GOOD IDEA, BUT WHAT THAT DOES TO OUR FUTURE IN THE CITY OF PLANO, I THINK THAT'S WHERE MY PROBLEM IS. DOES THE SAVING OF THAT $4 MILLION TODAY, IS THAT GOING TO INCREASE OUR BURDEN NEXT YEAR TO OUR RESIDENTS NEXT YEAR NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER THAT? WILL THAT INCREASE THE COSTS AND THE LABOR THAT MAY HAVE TO GO INTO MAKING UP THAT $4 MILLION THAT WE ARE SAVING THIS TIME AROUND? I THINK WE HAVE TO SORT OF KEEP THAT IN PERSPECTIVE THAT WE ARE NOT REALLY AT THIS POINT -- WE'RE NOT COMPARING OURSELVES TO THE OTHER BIG CITIES, AND THE REASON WHY WE ARE ABLE TO COME WITH THE RECOMMENDED TAX IS BECAUSE WE'VE DONE SO WELL IN PLANO FOR THE MANY YEARS OF KEEPING UP WITH ALLF THE AMENITIES, KEEPING UP MAINTENANCE OF SERVICES AND OUR FACILITIES SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CUT OUR BUDGET TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE PRETTY MUCH AT SKIN AND BONES. AM I CORRECT ABOUT THAT, KAREN? >> THAT IS CORRECT. YOU DEFINITELY ARE CORRECT THAT THIS HAPPENED TO US BACK IN THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN. WE DECIDE TO FOREGO SEVERAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, AND TERRIBLE DECISION AT THAT TIME. THE REAN WHYS BECAUSE WE WAITED A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THE PRICE JUST SKYROCKETED. YOU'RE CORRECT. IF YOU PUT OFF THINGS FOR TOMORROW, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE INFLATION COST IS GOING TO BE OR THE COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL. LUMBER AND CONCRETE. >> WE'RE ALREADY HAVING PROBLEMS WITH SUPPLY CHAIN. WE'RE DEALING WITH 9.1% INFLATION RATE, AND WHO IS TO TELL US THAT NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO BE BETTER? BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING TO THIS $4 MILLION PROJECT IS THA IT MIGHT NOT LAP IF WE CUT IT. EVEN IF WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING IT, WE MAY HAVE TO BORROW MONEY IN ORDER TO COMPLETE IT. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT PLANO WANTS TO DO. I THINK THOSE ARE ALL THE ADDED CONSIDERATIONS THAT I HAVE IN SUPPORTING THE CURRENT RECOMMENDED RATE AND TO REALLY LOOK OUT FOR OUR FUTURE AND FOR OUR FUTURE AND FOR OUR KIDS' FUTURE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP THE STABILITY OF PLANO AND THE CONSISTENCY OF PLANO WITHOUT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO PINCH THAT LITTLE MORE THIS YEAR TO MAKE US LOOK BETTER. IT MAY END UP THAT WE WILL LOOK WORSE NEXT YEAR. I DON'T WANT TO PASS THAT BURDEN ON. >> MAYOR MUNS: MAYOR PRO TEM. >> THANK YO FOR YOUR HARD WORK. YOU ALWAYS DID A GOOD JOB. I'M FINE WITH POSTING THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED RATE. I DID MENTION LAST TIME THAT I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF COST THAT WE'RE GOING TO PASS ON TO THE AVERAGE RESIDENT. I'M GLAD THAT IT CAME DOWN TO $36, BUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN $36 AND $6, IT MAY NOT SOUND LIKE A LOT, BUT $30 TO A SINGLE MOM OR SOMEONE ON A FIXED INCOME IS STILL $30 BRSH I'M SENSITIVE TO THAT, AND I WOULD LIKE US TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT ON SATURDAY AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THERE. I THINK BASED ON THE AMOUNT YOU SHOWED US IN THE CAPAL MAINTENANCE FUND OF WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY AND THE AMOUNT THAT'S PROJECTED TO COME IN SALES TAX IF WE TAKE THOSE ITEMS OUT, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR US TO GET THEM DONE ANOTHER WAY. ALSO, ITO THE POINTS OF SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND INFLATION, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BUT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT SOME OF THOSE ISSUES GET RESOLVED, AND WE COULD HAVE SOME COST SAVINGS IN THE FUTURE IF SOME OF THOSE THINGS COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT. I THINK THEY'RE ALL DISCUSSIONS FOR US TO HAVE. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THOSE ON SATURDAY >> I DO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE INFLATION. WE HAVE IT ALL SEPARATED OUT IN THE BUDGET, AND THE REASON WHY WE DID THAT, WE ADDED INTO THE DEPARTMENT, AND WE KEPT IT STOCKPILED. THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THAT FOR ANYTHING ELSE. IT'S TO GO FOR THE SERVICES THAT THEY TOLD US X CONTRACT IS GOING UP BY X, Y, Z. THAT WAY IN THE FUTURE WHEN IT COMES DOWN, WE WILL NO LONGER BE CARRYING THOSE INFLATIONARY FACTORS. JUST TO LET Y'ALL KNOW. >> MAYOR MUNS: KAREN, THA YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION. I ALSO AGREE THAT WE NEED TO POST IT 4265 AND FOR ALTHOUGH THE REASONS THIS COUNCIL HAS SAID SO, AND I COULDN'T AGREE MORE THAT, OBVIOUSLY, THE TAX RATE HAS GONE DOWN YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR, AND A LOT OF THE BIG CITIES THAT WE WORK WITH AND COMPETE WITH EVERY DAY ARE I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO, AND AT THE SAME TIME I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THE AMENITIES, AND THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE BECAUSE THAT REALLY MAKES THIS THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE. WE WANT THAT TO CONTINUE. OF PLANO HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 50, 60, 70 YEARS. THOSE ARE THINGS YOU HAVE TO STAY ON TOP OF. THIS IS NOT A BRAND NEW CITY. A ALITY CITY.KE SURE WE KEEP IT I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT. I KNOW WE HAVE FUTURE MEETINGS TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO IMPROVE AREAS THAT NEED LOOKING AT AND WE'LL DO THAT ON SATURDAY AND THEN THE FUTURE MEETING IN AUGUST. >> HERE'S WHAT I NEED TONIGHT. I NEED A RECORD VOTE. I ALSO NEED -- IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE GOING WITH THE 42.65. SINCE YEAR POSTING THAT WAY, WE DO NEED TO ANNOUNCE A PUBLIC HEARING. THE WAY SENATE BILL 2 HAS IT, WE CAN HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SAME NIGHT AS YOU ADOPT THE TAX RATE. THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL DID LAST YEAR. IT WOULD BE ON SEPTEMBER 12th. IF YOU DECIDE YOU WANTED IT ANOTHER MEETING, THAT'S FINE TOO. I DO HAVE TO INCLUDE THAT ON THE POSTING. >> MAYOR MUNS: OKAY. COULD I HAVE A SHOW OF HANDS THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF POETSING AT 42.65 CENTS? THIS IS JUST A DIRECTION. IT'S GOT TO BE A RECORD VOTE, SO WHATEVER RECD VOTE IS. THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE USE THE POSTED RATE OF .4265 WITH A PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 12th. >> SECOND. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSED 8-0. THANK YOU. >> GREAT. >> MAYOR MUNS: NEXT ITEM. >> ITEM NUMBER SIX. DISCSIONF T FISCAL YEAR 2022-23 COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM. >> THIS IS VERY TIMELY. WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM. IT TOTALS $330 MILLION. WE HAVE SET SPEAKERS. I WILL BRING UP RON SMITH. HE WILL DISCUSS THE PARKS AND REC SIDE FIRST. OH, SO SORRY. $330 MILLION. OF COURSE, THE MAJORITY IS GOING TO YOUR STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AT $127 MILLION, $52 MILLION IS CAPITAL MAINTENANCE, PARKS AND RECOLLECT IS $44 MILLION. WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS TOTAL $42 MILLION FOR THIS NEXT YEAR. OKAY. WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT FUNDING CATEGORIES, AND I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BRING UP RON. THERE YOU GO, RON. >> THANK YOU, KAREN. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, CITY COUNCIL. THE PLANO PARKS AND RECREATION CIP, WE HAVE FIVE CATEGORIES SHOWN ON THE SLIDE HERE FOR YOUR REFERENCE. WE HAVE RECREATION CENTERS, CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUND, PARK FEE, AND MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE. WITHIN THESE FIVE CATEGORIES, WE HAVE 85 PROJECTS TOTALLING APPROXIMATELY $59 MILLION OR 18% OF THE CITY'S CIP FOR THIS CITY'S UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. THE FIRST CATEGORY IS RECREATION CENTERS. WE ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM IN THIS FUND, THE RENOVATION OF THE TOMMY -- RECREATION CENTER. FUNDING WITH P FOR DESIGN AND A PORTION OF THE CONSTRUCTION IN PHYSICIANAL YEAR 2022-23 WITH THE REMAINDER FOR CONSTRUCTION IN THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR. ANTICIPATED WORK WILL INCLUDE UPDATES TO FIRE, SOUND, LIGHTING, AND IRRIGATION SYSTEMS, REPLACEMENT OF THE ROOF, PARKING LOT LIGHTS, CLASSROOM, AND WALKING TRACK FLOORING, REFRESHING THE POOL DECK, SLIDES, PLEA FEATURES, AND SHADE STRUCTURES AND NEW INTERIOR PAINT. . PARK IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, MUCH LARGERCATEGORY. THIS SLIDE IS A HIGH LEVEL LIST OF JUST SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN THIS CATEGORY. WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET TONIGHT A MEMO THAT HAS MORE INFORMATION FOR EACH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS. YOU WILL NOTICE IN THE MEMO THAT THE MAJORITY OF PARK IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS HAVE EITHER THE WORD RENOVATION OR SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT AS OUR CITY MANAGER HAS REQUESTED ARE OUR FOCUS IS ON KEEPING OUR AMENITIES UP TO SNUFF AND SO THE MAJORITY OF OUR PROJECTS ARE RENOVATION IN NATURE. JUST A FEW THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT. JACK CARTER PARK. THIS PROJECT WILL IMPLEMENT PHASE ONE OF THE PARK'S UPDATED SITE MASTER PLAN. THERE USED TO BE A MAINTENANCE BUILDING ATHE THIS LOCATION. WE'RE GOING TO BE REPURPOSING THAT GROUND FOR PUBLIC PARK USE. ALSO OF NOTE, LOS RIOS PARK. THIS PROJECT WILL CONSTRUCT NEARLY TWO MILES OF NEW TRAIL IN THE FORMERLY LOS RIOS GOLF COURSE THAT CONNECT BOB WOODRUFF PARK TO THE COTTON WOOD CREEK EEN BELT. ALSO OF NOTE, RECREATION TRAILS WILL INCLUDE NEW TRAIL EXTENSION ALONG CHISM TRAIL FROM 15th STREET DOWN TO THE COLLIN CREEK MALL DEVELOPMENT. COMMUNITY PARK RENOVATIONS WILL INCLUDE PROJECTS AT OLD SHEPHERD PLACE PARK AND BOB WOODRUFF PARK TO REPLACE THE PLAYGROUNDS AND RESTROOMS. TRAIL REPLACEMENT WILL RECONSTRUCT A SECTION OF CHISM TRAIL UNDER SPRING CREEK PARKWAY THAT HAS BEEN A MAINTENANCE BUGGABOO FOR US FOR MANY YEARS. IMPROVEMENTS IS THE BRECKENRIDGE TRAIL THAT I WANTED TO MENTION. THIS IS EXPECTED TO COST $1.5 MILLION IN NEXT YEAR'S CIP BUDGET. THIS PROJECT WILL BE 100% REIMBURSED FROM THE GRANTS FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. THE NEXT CATEGORY IS CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUND. OUR CMF. YEAR AGAIN SHOWING JUST A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF THE CMF WITH MORE INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET MEMO. THE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FUND SUPPORTS SMALLER PROJECTS LIKE REPAIRS AND REHABILITATION AS WELL AS RENOVATION OF FACILITIES. THIS FUND SUPPORTS OUR AWARWINNING PARK SYSTEM, INCLUDING FOUR PERFORMING ARTS VENUES, 15 ATHLETIC SITES, OVER 500 IRRIGATION SYSTEMS, FIVE MILES OF LIVING SCREENS, 85 PARKS, AND LANDSCAPING FOR 47 PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND ALSO OUR SIX RECREATION CENTERS. FUNDING IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE CMF FOR A PROJECT TO RENOVATE THE EXTERIOR COURTYARD AT THE PLANO EVENT CENTER. NEXT CATEGORY IS PARKVIEW PROJECTS. WE ANTICIPATE PROJECTS IN AREA SIX FOR COLLIN CREEK MALL REDEVELOPMENT. TRAIL CONNECTIONS IN AREA FOUR AND AREA 8 AT JACK CARTSER PARK AND AREA 12 FOR THE ALMANAC DEVELOPMENT. MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE IS OUR NEXT CATEGORY, AND THE LAST ONE TO TALK ABOUT FOR OUR PARKS AND RECREATION CIP. THIS FUND MOST SIGNIFICANTLY -- THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PROJECT IN THIS FUND IS THE BIG LAKE PARK FOR THE DECELTATION OF THE POND AND PREPARING THE WIER, WHICH IS GOING TO BE $12.2 MILLION APPROXIMATELY. THE REMAINING FUNDING IS AVAILABLE FOR DESIGN AND REPAIR WORK CITY-WIDE. SOME OF THE LOCATIONS COULD INCLUDE ARCH GATE, RUSSELL CREEK PARK, SHADY BROOK, AND WILLOW CREEK. A COMPANION MEMO WAS PROVIDED FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARK AND REX CIP BEFORE WE BRING UP OUR NEXT SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, RON. >> GOOD EVENING AGAIN. CALEB THORNHILL, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING. NOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ENGINEERING AND PARTICULAR STREETS. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A VERY LARGE NUMBER. $119 MILLION IN BOND FUNDS AND JUST OVER $8 MILLION IN OTHER A COMBINATION OF PUBLIC WORKS S- AND ENGINEERING, BUT OBVIOUSLY, 127, NEARLY $130 MILLION FOR STREET IMPROVEMENT FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. PROJECTS BEING INCLUDED WITH THAT. STREET RECONSTRUCTION. OR STREET CONSTRUCTION. CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS. WE'LL HAVE A SLIDE ON THAT. THAT'S OUR INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS. STREET DESIGN PROJECTS. THIS YEAR WE'VE GOT A SPECIAL SIDE. TRANSPORTATION DESIGN. IT'S ALWAYS INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET. THERE'S A FEW ITEMS I WANTED TO POINT OUT IN PARTICULAR. THEN MISCELLANEOUS. THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR BRIDGE REPAIRS, SCREEN WALLS, SIDEWALKS, THA TYPE OF PROJECT. STREET CONSTRUCTION ON THE FIRST SLIDE $87 MILLION. 50 OF THAT IS PUBLIC WORKS, AND DAN PIDERGAST WILL TALK MORE IN DETAIL WITH THE ARTERIOLES. THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS DOING WORK ON TWO LARGE ARTERIOLES. PARKER ROAD RECONSTRUCTION THAT WILL START LATER THIS FALL. IT'S IN DESIGN RIGHT NOW. ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION STARTING THIS FALL. SHILOH ROAD IS ACTUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. THAT IS A VERY LARGE PROJECT. ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONES THAT I HAVE SEEN SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE. MY YEARS. THEN WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER STREETS PLANNED FOR CONSTRUCTION LATER THIS FALL AND EARLY NEXT YEAR AS WELL. JUST SHOWING YOU A MAP. I KNOW IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE IN THE BLUE IS PROJECTS THAT ARE EXISTING CONSTRUCTION, UNDER CONSTRUCTION LAST FISCAL YEAR MAY LEAD INTO A LITTLE BIT NEXT YEAR. THE RED IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. WE'VE TRIED TO SHARE IT EVERYWHERE WE COULD, BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PJECTS GOING ON. STREET CAPACITY, TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE EARLIER. INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT. PROABLY OUR MOST CHALLENGING PROJECT, TRYING TO GET EASEMENTS, RIGHT-OF-WAY OUT FACILITIES AT THESE CORNERS. IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR OR DON'T REMEMBER, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, WE DO THESE USUALLY FOR TWO MAIN REASONS. ONE AND MOBILE MOST IMPORTANT IS SAFETY. THAT MAY BE A GEOMETRY CHANGE, SITE DISTANCE ISSUE AT A LOCATION WHERE WE'VE GOT A HIGH ACCIDENT LOCATION. THEN THE OTHER ONE, OBVIOUY, IS CONGESTION, AND USUALLY WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THE ADDITION OF SOME TURN LANES, BUT WE ALSO MAY MAKE SOME GEOMETRY MODIFICATIONS DEPENDING ON THE CHANGES. THERE'S MULTIPLE LOCATIONS ALONG THOSE CORRIDORS. HOPING TO WRAP UP PARK AND PARKER THIS YEAR. WE'VE GOT LEGACY UNDER BID, AND WE'RE AWAITING MORE UTILITY RELOCATION TO GET THAT ONE. YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE LEFT, THOUGH, WE HAVE NUMEROUS OTHER INTERSECTIONS PLANNED FOR THE NEXT YEAR. FROM A MAP PERSPECTIVE, BLUE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY. HOPEFULLY WRANK UP IN THE NEXT LATER THIS FALL AND NEXT YEAR. RED IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE BEING UNDER CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR. THERE'S NOT A SAFE ROUTE TO GO. WE'VE GOT JUST ABOUT ALL COVERED, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO COORDINATE BETWEEN OUR PROJECTS, PUBLIC WORKS, PARKS, THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A ROUTE TO GET THROUGH THE CITY, BUT IT IS A CHALLENGE FOR SURE. REETDESI. THESE A PROJECTS WE ANTICIPATE GOING TO DESIGN NEXT YEAR. 15th STREET IS ACTUALLY ALREADY UNDER DESIGN. THAT'S JUST RIGHT OUTSIDE THE DOOR HERE. I EXPECT THAT TO WRAP UP DESIGN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND START CONSTRUCTION. THE REMAINDER OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE USUALLY SOME TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD STREET REPLACEMENT. USUALLY INCLUDES STORM DRAINAGE, WATER, SEWER ALONG WITH THOSE PROJECTS AS WELL. I MENTIONED TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. I HAVE A HUGE INITIATIVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW. WE'VE JUST ABOUT COMPLETED THE TRANSPORTATION OR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER UPSTAIRS. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN YET, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SWING BY. GOT A FEW MORE THINGS THAT THEY'VE GOT TO GET COMPLETE. MATERIAL SHORTAGES. I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE. A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY IN THAT ROOM. WE'RE VERY EXCITED. WITH THAT WE'VE GOT SEVERAL PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS NOT ONLY FOR THIS YEAR BUT FOR THE NEXT FOUR OR THREE AND A HALF. CCTV EXPANSION. THIS ENABLES US TO SEE THE CONGESTI, REACT TO INCIDENTS.O THE PHASE FOUR FIBER INCREASES OUR ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THESE LOCATIONS, MAKE REAL-TIME ADJUSTMENTS DEPENDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON. RIGHT NOW WE RELY ON A LOT OF CELL SERVICE, AND IT CAN BE SPOTTY AT TIMES, SO THIS FIBER CONNECTION WILL REALLY IMPROVE THAT. THE TRANSPORTATION TECHNOLOGY PROGRAM, THAT WAS APPROVED AT LAST COUNCIL WITH THE APPROPRIATE MANAGEMENT TO MANAGE THIS. THE TOTAL PROGRAMS UPWARDS OF $37 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FOUR VEHICLE DETECTION, THAT WAS APPROVED RECENTLY. THAT ENABLES US TO ESSENTIALLY SEE THE INTERSECTIONS. THEY CAN DETECT VEHICLES AT EACH OF THE INTERSECTIONS AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SIGNAL TIMING TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE VEHICLES AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS. THE TRAFFIC CABINET, LOCAL CONTROLLER AND CENTRAL SYSTEM. IMAGINE YOU SEE THAT BOX THERE IN THAT PICTURE. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE BRAIN OF THAT SIGNAL, AND IMAGINE THAT EVERY ONE OF THOSE BRAINS IS A 1999 DELL, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHEE'RE AT IN A LOT OF THE LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THAT PROGRAM, THE CABINET LOCAL CONTROLLER, CENTRAL SYSTEM, THAT IS A COMPLETE REPLACEMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THAT'S -- WE'VE GOT OVER 260 INTERSECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THAT WILL NOT BE DONE OVERNIGHT. WHAT THEY WILL DO IS THEY'LL COME IN AND SET A NEW BOX WHILE THE OTHER ONE IS OPERATIONAL AND GET IT FUNCTIONING AND SWITCH IT OVER SO WE DON'T SEE ANY DOWNTIME OR MINIMAL DOWNTIME. THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. THAT IS A HUGE INITIATIVE. E'RE VERY EXCITED T FORWARD WITH TT. STREET MISCELLANEOUS. TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. BRIDGE INSPECTION REPAIR IS A HUGE CHUNK OF THIS. ANYWHERE WE HAVE DARK SPOTS, STREETLIGHTING, WE LOOK AT THAT. SCREENING WALLS IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CHUNK FROM THIS AREA. SCREEN WALLS ARE JUST LARGE PROJECTS. VERY EXPENSIVE. SIDEWALK INSTALLATION REPAIR, ANY GAP WE'VE HAD AROUND THE CITY, AND THE MONUMENTATION SURVEY. SCREENING WALL. AGAIN, TALKED ABOUT THAT. THIS IS A LIST OF LOCATIONS AND ACTUALLY ONE WAS SUGGESTED, AND IT'S ALREADY ON THE LIST AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING LAST WEEK. MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE FUNDS. YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. ALL OF THESE IN VARIOUS STATES OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. THEN ANOTHER ONE YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH. THE COLLIN CREEK IS ACTUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHY THAT -- YOU SEE THIS -- THE OTHER PORTION OF THIS DRAINAGE FUND LARGE $20 MILLN WHERE, THAT INCLUDES THE COMPLETION OF THE COLLIN SKREEK CULVERTS. YOU IF YOU DON'T REMEMBER THAT TOTAL PROJECT WAS $23 MILLION. A LARGE PORTION OF THAT. THE OTHER PROJECTS ARE MISCELLANEOUS DRAINAGE LOCATION THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING. WATER IMPROVEMENT FUND, COPY AND REPLACE. JUST ABOUT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED YET. A LOT OF THESE ARE REPLACING CAST IRON OLDER LINES. MAYOR MUNS MENTIONED SOME OF OUR INSTRA FROM A STRUCTURE AND THE AGE OF IT, THOSE THESE ARE ALL WATER REHAB PROJECT THAT IS WE'. LASTLY, FOR ME SERIAL IMPROVEMENT FUND. A LOT OF THESE ARE RELATED TO SEWER CAPACITY. A LARGE LINE ALONG PGBT THAT WE'RE ENLARGING. IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE DOING AT COLLIN CREEK AND THEN THE SPRING CREEK INTERCEPTOR AS WELL. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME BEFORE I TURN IT TO FACILITIES? >> MAYOR MUNS: COUNCILMEMBER GRADY? >> QUICK QUESTION, CALEB. ANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE LIST, ARE THEY SOMETHING THAT WEOULD DO IN PARTNERSHIP FROM A FUNDING STANDPOINT WITH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS? >> SO WE EXPLORE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. WE HAVE TO REALLY DIG IN. THEY DO HAVE -- OF COURSE, WE'RE INVOLVED WITH THE SURFACE TRANSPORTATION AND TECHNICAL COMMITTEE, BUT USUALLY THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE WITH THE FUNDING IS IT ADDS TIME, AND IT ADDS MONEY TO IT. IF IT'S A LARGER PROJECT, WE LOOK AT THAT. SHILOH ROAD WE'RE UTILIZING COLLIN COUNTY FUNDING FOR THAT. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF THE CORRIDOR INTERSECTION PROJECTS THAT ARE USING RTR FUNDS. OUR LAST FEDERAL PROJECT WAS THE PRESTON AT PGBT PROJECT. CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ONE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANKS, CALEB. >> GOOD EVENING. FACILITIES DIVISION MANAGER. I CAN PROMISE YOU MY PROJECT WILL NOT MESS UP THE INTERSECTION AND CAUSE ANY TRAFFIC. >> I WANT THAT ON THE RECORD. [LAUGHING] >> I HAVE ROUGHLY $37 MILLION THIS YEAR SPANNING ABOUT 53 MROJS BETWEEN MY BOND FUNDS AND CAPITAL MAINTENANCE. HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THE BOND LEVEL PROJECTS WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THIS YEAR. FUELING STATIONS. WE ARE GETTING READY TO ENTER OUR AGREEMENT FOR DESIGN. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH, MET WITH FORT WORTH, AND WE REALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE WE WANT TO GO WITH IT. FIRE STATION 5, WE ARE ABOUT TO SIGN OUR ARCHITECT, AND WE EXPECT TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION DURING THIS NEXT YEAR. COUNCIL CHAMBERS, RENOVATIONS, I KNOW I SPOKE TO YOU LAST YEAR ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS. WE'VE HAD LOTS OF MEETINGS. WE'VE LOOKED AT A LOT OF OTHER CITY'S COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AND WE ARE EXPECTI OURIRST DELIVERABLE DESIGN IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO. FROM THERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER TO GIVE US PRICE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE STILL WITHIN BUDGET AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET THAT UNDER CONSTRUCTION JUST A LITTLE BIT. PARKWAY SERVICE FLEET RENOVATION. THIS PROJECT IS SLATED TO BEGIN THIS YEAR, BUT WE ARE HITTING PAUSE RIGHT NOW ON IT, AND LOOKING AT POSSIBLY DOING A MASTER PLAN TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING IT IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY. THEN WE HAVE ABOUT 2.9 OTHER BOND-RELED PROJECTS THIS YEAR. ONE THING I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND, RON HAD A LOT OF PARKS PROJECTS OR REC CENTER PROJECTS UP ON HIS. THE PROJECTS THEY WILL GO AND GET THE FUNDING FOR AND HAVE THE FACILITIES DIVISION BUILD THE ACTUAL PROJECT. ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A REC CENTER. ALSO, A LOT OF THE CAPITAL MAINTENANCE FOR A LOT OF THE STUFF WITHIN THE REC CENTERS, SAY THE ROOFTOP MECHANICAL UNITS, REFRESHMENT OF THE ARE A DONE BY FACILITIES. THOSE IF YOU SEE SLIDES OF ME TALKING ABOUT REC CENTERS AND RON TALKING ABOUT REC CENTERS, WE'RE NOT DOUBLE-DIPPING. THERE'S A SEPARATION THERE. A COUPLE OF SAMPLES OF MUNICIPAL PROJECTS WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR. THE ONGOING REFRESHMENT OF THIS BUILDING THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT SUITES TO THE FURNITURE REPLACEMENT AND SOME FINISHES. YOU ARE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF GENERATORS. WE'RE STILL RESPONDING TO WINTER STORM YURI. WE HAVE NOT ONE GENERATOR YET GENERATOR IS A54-WEEK WAIT TIME RIGHT NO SO WE'RE AAD OF A LOT OF THEM. WE'RE WAITING ON A LOT OF THEM, AND THIS IS THE NEXT GENERATION WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO -- WITH SERVICE PRETTY MUCH ON THE FIRST RESPONDER AND NOW OUR NEXT GENERATE OR IS TRYING TO GET ALL THE WARMING STATIONS GOING. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH STATION IT IS OR WHICH TRUCK IT IS. SAME THING FOR THE ENGINE AND AMBULANCES. IT CREATES A REAL ISSUE. JUST TECHNOLOGY WE'VE BEEN DOING IS NO LONGER SUPPORTED. WE HAVE A NEW TECHNOLOGY WE'RE GOING TO BE USING SIMILAR TO WHAT'S IN YOUR TOLL TAG, BUT THAT WE USE.THE BADGE TECHNOLOG- THAT'S GOING TO SEND THE FREQUENCY, AND RADIO FREQUENCY TO THE DOORS AND OPEN THEM UP. THAT'S WHAT THAT PROJECT IS. WE ALSO HAVE 250,000 THIS YEAR TO DO A SPACE STUDY FOR THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS IN PREPARATION FOR POSSIBLY ONE REQUEST IN '25. TOM -- CENTER. UPDATE. RON HIT MOST OF THIS STUFF ALREADY. LOCKER ROOMS ARE DATED. THEY NEED TO BE FIXED. A FEW ADA ISSUES. HAVE TO TRY TO GET NEW AQUATIC FEATURES IN THERE AND GET IT REFRESHED. MAKE SOME PEOPLE MORE EXCITED TO COME THERE AGAIN. NEW THINGS TO COME SEE. FIRE STATION 5 REMODEL AND TOUCHED ON THAT A MINUTE AGO. THIS PROJECT WE HOPE TO GET GOING WITHIN THIS FISCAL YEAR. THE BIGGEST THING IS CREATING MORE ROOM FOR MORE APPARATUS. WE'VE DECIDED THAT I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOVING A MED UNIT INTO THE STATION WHICH CURRENTLY DOESN'T HAVE ONE. IT'S GOING TO -- WE'E GOING TO REARRANGE THE STATION ITSELF TO INCREASE THE RESPONSE SUFFICIENCY. OF COURSE, THE CODE NOW REQUIRES WE SPEND ANY KIND OF TIME DOING ANYTHING TO A FIRST RESPONDER, WE HAVE TO ADD A STORM SHELTER ON IT. WE HAVE A FEW ADA ISSUES. AND, OF COURSE, THIS PROJECT, AGAIN, LAST YEAR YOU GUYS HEARD ABOUT WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO, TRYING TO APPROVE THE ACCESSIBILITY FOR TO INCREASE THE AUDIO AND ACOUSTICAL ABILITIES AND OBVIOUSLY IMPROVE SECURITY WHILE WE'RE IN HERE. DAN SUBPOENA NEXT, BUT ANY DISCUSSION FOR FACILITIES? >> MAYOR MUNS: ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DAN. I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR CIP. THE LARGEST IS STREETS. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LOT TONIGHT. THE TOTAL FUNDING OF JUST OVER $80 MILLION SPLIT BETWEEN BOND FUNDING AT 50.7 MILLION DOLLARS AND CMF FUNDING OF JUST OVER $29 MILLION. WE TALK ABOUT BOND FUNDED PROJECTS VERSUS CMF FUNDED PROJECTS. BOND FUNDED PROJECTS WITH OUR LARGE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT STRETCH OVER MULTIPLE YEARS. OUR CMF FUNDED PROJECTS ARE TYPICALLY SMALLER PROJECTS BASED ON WORK ORDERS AND ALSO PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE AND SCREENING WALLS AS WELL. I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT ALL OF THIS AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. THE VOTERS APPROVED $231 MILLION FOR STREET BOND PROJECTS IN 2021. $100 MILLION WAS DEVOTED TO OUR ARTERIAL CONCRETE AND OVERLAW LAY, AND $70 MILLION TO STREET REPAIR. THIS FIRST PROJECT HERE IS $25.7 MILLION NEXT YEAR FOR ARTERIOLE CONCRETE REPAIR AND OVERLAY. THE PICTURE WAS INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY. WE DID THIS ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. IT'S PERFORMED VERY WELL. THAT'S HOW W EXPANDED THE PROGRAM INTO WHAT IT IS TODAY. THIS SLIDE HERE WILL KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT THAT IS. THIS IS A REVIEW MUCH OUR MAJOR STREET PROGRAM. IT SHOWS YOU KIND OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHERE WE ARE, AND WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THE STREET PROGRAM. THE STREETS YOU SEE IN GRAY ARE OVERLAYS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED ALREADY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE TOWN YOU HAVE ONE HAVEN PARKWAY. CENTRAL TOWN YOU HAVE PARKER ROAD FROM PRESTON AND INDEPENDENCE, AND YOU HAVE THE INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY PROJECT I JUST MENTIONED THAT GOES NORTH-SOUTH THERE. ON THE FAR EAST SIDE YOU HAVE JUPITER ROAD THAT GOES FROM PARK TO CHAPARELLE. THE PROJECTS IN YELLOW ARE PREVIOUS CONCRETE REPAIR PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO OVERLAY. LEGACY DRIVE FROM CONSISTOR TO 75 SHOULD START IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS. THEN THEY'RE GOING TO SHIFT OVER TO PLANO PARKWAY IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF TOWN. THAT'S JUST OUR CONSTRUCTION HERE IN THREE TO FOUR WEEKS. THEN FINALLY, COYTE ROAD, THAT'S JUST OUR CONSTRUCTION IN SEPTEMBER, AND ALL THREE PROJECTS WILL WRAP UP BY THE END OF OCTOBER. YOU HAVE FUNDING IN THIS FISCAL YEAR AND NEXT FISCAL YEAR FOR THOSE PROJECTS. NEXT ARE THE ORANGE PROJECTS. THESE ARE CONCRETE REPAIR PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING AHEAD OF THE OVERLAYS. WEST IN THE CENTRALART T AND TOWN. BOTH OF THOSE HAVE STARTED CONSTRUCTION AND THE CONTRACTORS ARE MOVING FROM THE OUTSIDE OF TOWN INSIDE THERE. YOU CAN MAY SEE LANE CLOSURES AND THAT STRETCHES OVER MULTIPLE FISCAL YEARS. ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF TOWN YOU HAVE PLANO PARKWAY. WE HAD TO WAIT FOR A FEW PROJECTS TO MOVE OUT OF THE WAY, ABOUT UT WE HAVE STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON THAT PROJECT ON THE EAST PART OF TOWN. NEXT, HEDGECOXE ROAD UP NORTH, THAT PROJECT HAD A PRECONSTRUCTION MEETING LAST WEEK. IT SHOULD START CONSTRUCTION NEXT WEEK. THEN INDEPENDENCE PARKWAY IS IN FINAL DESIGN. THAT PROJECT SHOULD BID IN A FEW WEEKS AND GO TO CONSTRUCTION HERE IN ABOUT THREE MONTHS, AND THAT'S INTENTIONAL TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING COYTE ROAD AND NOT HAVING TWO PARALLEL PROJECTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME. THAT'S REALLY THE OVERVIEW OF WHERE OUR STREET PROGRAM IS GOING. I SHOULD MENTION, TOO, IN GREEN THERE YOU HAVE PARKWOOD BOULEVARD AS WELL. THAT WAS A CONCRETE REPAIR PROJECT LAST YEAR THAT FINISHED UP. THAT WILL BE OVERLAID THIS FISCAL YEAR. THAT'S A GOOD OVERVIEW. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT, TOO, WE DO TRY TO DO PROJECTS ALL OVER TOWN. IT'S NOT JUST A ONE LOCATION TO MAKE SURE ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS GET TO EXPERIENCE THE OVERLAY THAT'S NOT JUST ONE AREA OF TOWN. I THINK WE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB WITH THAT. NEXT IS THE RESIDENTIAL STRAIGHT AND ALLEY REHAB. THESE ARE DONE BY ZONES. WE HAVE $25 MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR. WHAT WE DO IS A CONTRACTOR GOES STREET BY STREET AND REPAIRS THE STREET PAVEMENT, THE SIDEWALK PAVEMENT AND THE ALLEY PAVEMENT AND THEN WE DO PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE ON THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT GETS EVERY PIECE OF THE STREET PAVEMENT THAT GETS MAINTENANCE PERFORMED TO IT. THE MAP HERE SHOWS YOU WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN GREEN. WE'RE IN A LOT OF LOCATIONS, AND THESE ARE PROJECTS, AGAIN, THAT STRETCH TYPICALLY ABOUT TWO YEARS. SOMETIMES EVEN THREE DEPENDING HOW MUCH WORK THERE IS TO DO. THEN IN RED OUR PROJECTS COMING UP FOR NEXT YEAR, SO YOU HAVED6 ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN AND THEN K8 AND L8 KIND OF IN THE NORTH PART OF TOWN THERE, AND BOTH THE AREAS THERE HAVE NOT HAD A PREVIOUS NEIGHBORHOOD ZONE PROJECT, SO IT'S THE FIRST TIME THE STREETS THERE ARE ABOUT 25 TO 30 YEARS OLD, SO IT'S ABOUT TIME TO GET IN THERE AND DO SOME MAINTENANCE. NEXT THE CMF PROJECTS. MOST OF THESE ARE THE SAME TYPE OF PROJECTS. JUST SMALLER SCALE. I WILL POINT OUT HERE THE JOINT CEILING THAT ALLOWS US TO MAINTAIN EVEN PAVEMENT THAT'S IT IN GOOD SHAPE TO MAKE SURE IT STAYS IN GOOD SHAPE LONGER. THEN SCREENING WALLS. WE HAVE A LOT OFEHICLES THAT DO GET SCREENING WALLS, AND THIS PAYS FOR US TO REPLACE THOSE PANELS. IN ADDITION, IF THE WALL IS IN POOR CONDITION BUT THE FOUNDATION IS IN GOOD CONDITION, WE CAN REPLACE THE BRICK, AND THAT'S PAID FOR OUT OF THIS FUND, BUT WITH PUBLIC WORKS IF THE FOUNDATION IS NOT IN GOOD CONDITION, MEANING THE WALL IS LEANING, IT GOES TO ENGINEERING AS PAID FOR. THE NEXT PART OF THE CMF IS A TRAFFIC PORTION. IT INCLUDES SIGNALIZATION UPGRADES, PAVEMENT MARKINGS, STREET INVESTIGATIONS, STREET LIGHTING, TRAFFIC GUARDRAILS AND TRAFFIC SIGN REPLACE AM. ALL THIS ALLOWS US TO KEEP OUR TRAFFIC AND SIGNAGE IN GOOD SHAPE EACH YEAR. NEXT WE'LL SWITCH GEARS OVER TO WATER. WHAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT HERE IS A 24 INCH WATER MAIN BREAK THAT'S BEING REPAIRED. THAT WAS ON 15th STREET JUST EAST OF CUSTER ROAD LAST YEAR. A LOT OF THE FUNDING HERE WE'VE $7.2 MILLION THAT'S GOING TOWARDS INVESTIGATION OF OUR LARGER MAINS. OUR MAINS ARE GETTING OLDER. WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AS YOU SAW IN CALEB AGENCY SLIDE THERE OF DOING NEIGHBORHOOD REHABS. THOSE ARE TYPICALLY 8 INCH TO 12 INCH DIAMETER MAINS. WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR LARGER MAINS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY CATASTROPHIC FAILURES. THE OTHER PORTION HERE THAT'S IMPORTANT IS THE WATER QUALITY. AS WE SWITCH TO A FIVE-YEAR LONG AVERAGE WITH THE DISTRICT, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR WATER QUALITY FLUSHING. THE ONLY WAY WE CAN MAINTAIN WATER QUALITY ON THE SYSTEM IS TO FLUSH FIRE HYDRANTS. THAT CAN BE A LITTLE IRRITATING TO RESIDENTS SOMETIMES. WE'RE DOING A WATER MODEL RIGHT NOW WITH A CONSULTANT TO WHERE THEY CAN LOOK AT VARIOUS SCENARIOS AND HOW WE USE OUR PUMP STATIONS TURNING VALVES ON THE SYSTEMS, DECREASING WATER MAIN SIZES AND CHLORINE DOSING AND AMMONIA DOSING OUR TANKS TO REMAIN THE RESIDUAL INSTEAD MUCH FLUSHING THE WATER OUT OF THE SYSTEM. AT'S ALL PART OF THAT $7.2 MILLION. IT INCLUDES WATER LINE REPAIR AND LEAK DETECTION. WE'RE IN THE LAST YEAR OF THE WATER REPLACEMENT PROJECT. THEN, FINALLY, WASTE WATER. THIS IS JUST OVER $6 MILLION. MOST OF THESE PROJECTS ARE REALED TO THE PLAN THAT'S OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE. IT'S REALLY GEARED TOWARDS THE CONDITION OF OUR OVERALL SEWER SYSTEM MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING CCTV INSPECTIONS WITH WHAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE. IT ALSO IS GEARED TOWARDS MAKING SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT INI. IF YOU HAVE STORM WATER IN YOUR SEWER LINES, YOU HAVE LESS A LOT OF HE'S PROJECTS ARE GEARED TOWARDS THAT MANHOLE CEILING, IONIZED STUDIES. THAT'S THE GIST OF THE OVERALL PUBLIC WORKS PROGRAM. WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. I THINK I'M THE LAST ONE. >> NOT TO KEEP EVERYBODY HERE LONGER THAN NECESSARY, BUT YOU POINTED OUT THAT OUR WATER LINES ARE AGING AS OUR ARE OUR STREETS. WE PASSED A HUGE BOND PACKAGE LAST YEAR. THE BRUNT OF WHICH WAS FOUR STREETS BECAUSE EVERYBODY RECOGNIZED THAT AS I SAY THE RRANTYS UP. THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK THAT JUST HAS TO BE DONE. AS OUR CITY WAS BUILT OUT AND SOME SIGNIFICANT BURSTS IN THE '80s AND '90s WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MOST OF THOSE STREETS, WHICH WE SPENT GOBZ OF MONEY TO BUILD, AND WE JUST DROVE ON THEM FOR MANY YEARS. LAST YEAR'S BOND PACKAGE, WHICH WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON, IS ADDRESSING JUST A FRACTION OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. HOW LIKELY DO YOU THINK IT IS AND THIS IS PROBABLY A MUCH DEEPER DISCUSSION. HOW LIKELY DO YOU THINK IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN THIS CURRENT LEVEL OF SPENDING WHICH W ISSUED BONDS TO ACHIEVE AS WE ADDRESS ALL THE REMAINING FRACTIONS? >> I WOULD SAY IT'S LIKELY BECAUSE WE ARE AN AGING CITY. WE ARE ADDRESSING THE STREET ISSUES RIGHT NOW. THE ONE BOND PROGRAM DOESN'T ADDRESS ALL OF OUR ISSUES. THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN DO THAT AMOUNT OF WORK IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME. YOU ALSO HAVE YOUR SEWER SYSTEM AND YOUR WATER SYSTEM. WHAT THIS CIP IS DOING HERE IS GETTING US IN A POSITION TO LOOK AT HOW MUCH THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND. WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT BEFORE. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I WOULD ALSO SHARE THAT YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. WE GREW IN BURSTS. THE AS THE LATE JERRY COSGROVE USED TO SAY, HE NEEDED MORE, AND WE ADDED MORE IN. I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS, AND PLANO IS WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T SUFFER THE FATE OF A LOT OF CITIES THAT HAVEN'T STAYED ON TOP OF THEIR MAINTENANCE, HAVEN'T REPAIRED THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE. THE WATER AND SEWER SIDE IS GROWING MORE AND MORE CONCERNING IN THE LONG-TERM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE STARTED TO ADDRESS. WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO ADDRESS EACH YEAR AND BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL. WHERE WE ARE ON ROADS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ADDING SOME POSITIONS TO MAKE SE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, ABBUT WE'RE BUMPING UP ON CAPACITY TO SOME EXTENT. THAT'S A GOOD THING. LONG-TERM OUR GOAL IS TO STAY ON TOP OF THE WAVE VERSUS BEING BEHIND THE WAVE AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE GOES AND KEEPING OUR ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENT ACCESSIBLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE COMMITTED TO THAT. AS WE NEED MORE RESOURCES OR OTHER BOND PROGRAMS OR WHETHER IT'S WATER AND SEWER DISCUSSIONS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING THOSE BACK. I KNOW THAT THOSE, TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN, ARE COSTLY, BUT IF WE WANT TO KEEP UP WITH THAT MAINTENANCE AND NOT HAVE THAT DEFERRED COST THAT BALLOONS ON US IN THE FUTURE, THATAKES IT PROHIBITIVE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THOSE ON IN THE UPCOMING YEARS. >> TO THAT END AND YOU MAY ALREADY BE HEADING DOWN THIS TRACK, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN SOMETHING LIKE THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SPENDING, WHICH WE ONLY ACHIEVED WITH BOND ISSUANCES, I WOULD LIKE TO START EXPLORING RAMPING UP THIS SPENDING ON AN OPERATIONAL BASIS OVER THE COMING DECADES SO WE'RE NOT SPENDING EXTRA MONEY ON DEBT SERVICE. >> WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING BACK OPTIONS FOR SPENDING FUNDS IN A WAY THAT'S THE MOST RESPONSIVE AND CONTROLLED A WORKS WITN THEOALS OF THE CITY, BUT I DO THINK THAT OVER THE NEXT FOUR TO FIVE YEARS IT'S GOING TO BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO MEET THOSE NEEDS AND WE DO HAVE A PLAN TO ADDRESS THOSE OVER THE NEXT 10 TO 15 YEARS. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MUNS: COUNCILMAN GRADY. >> ONE QUICK QUESTION. IT DEALS WITH EITHER CURRENT SPENDING OR IT DEALS WITH THE SPENDING THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IN THE FUTURE, AND THAT DEALS WITH -- WE EXTENDED THE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO ON COYTE ROAD, AND WE EXTENDED WHAT WE WERE GOING TO COVER WITHIN ASPHALT OVERLAY. IN THE PROCESS MOTHER NATURE HAS NOT BEEN KIND TO THE EARLY RECONSTRUCTION OF COYTE ROAD AND SOME OF THOSE NEW SECTIONS HAVE NOW BEEN SHIFTED BY MOTHER NATURE IN PORTIONS. I AM JUST WONDERING, IS REPAIRING THOSE SECTIONS BEFORE YOU PUT IN ASPHALT OVERLAY IN THE CURRENT DOLLARS, OR IS IT IN THIS FUTURE DOLLARS? >> SO WE ACTUALLY PLANNED FOR THAT. WITH THE ASPHALT OVERLAY PROJECT THAT WE BID, WE HAD CONCRETE REPAIR IN THAT KNOWING THAT SOME OF THE SECTIONS HAVE BEEN REPAIRED PROBABLY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. WE HAD FREEZES AND WE HAD THE SUMMER HEAT AS WELL. THEY'RE BACK UP THERE WORKING ON THE CONCRETE REPAIRS AHEAD OF THE OVERLAY GOING DOWN MAKING SURE THE CONCRETE IS IN GREAT CONDITION BEFORE IT GOES DOWN. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> MAYOR MUNS: IS THAT ALL, KAREN? >> THAT'S IT FOR US TODAY. >> MAYOR MUNS: WELL, THAT BEING SAID -- >> SEE YOU ON SATURDAY, THOUGH. WE HAVE A BIG DAY. >> MAYOR MUNS: THANK YOU FOR REMINDING US. MORE COFFEE. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, MEETING IS ADJOURNED. (MEETING ADJOURNED 9:06 P.M.