Based on the context provided and the dialogue within the transcript, here is the speaker-attributed version of the town hall meeting. **Note on Law Enforcement:** While Kelly Lake is the Carlton County Sheriff, the speaker referred to as "Daren" and "Chief" is **Daren Juntunen**, the Moose Lake Police Chief, who traditionally provides the local PD report. **Note on "Elaine":** The Mayor addresses a council member as "Elaine" at [22:55]. As she is not on your list but is explicitly named in the audio, I have labeled her as **Council Member Elaine**. *** [0:15] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** and we'll start with the pledge of allegiance please i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for [0:42] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** all next item is approval of the agenda do we have any additions or changes in the council see administrator [0:55] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** i have one change i'm going to make under 6 i i'm going to move that up to after 3 is completed and then we'll go back into the regular agenda [1:05] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** without any other requests do not have a motion to accept the agenda i have a second all in favor say aye aye opposed [1:30] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** motion carried under number two consent agenda we have the minutes the regular city council meeting on may 11 2022 any discussion or questions on the minutes [1:48] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** second all in favor say aye motion carried moving on to number two b financial reports number one is the city accounts payable for may 2022 number two is the city financial statements for may 2022 and number three is the liquor store profit loss statements for may 2022. [2:18] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** have any questions or discussion on the financial reports [2:28] **Council Member:** no problems do you have a second second all in favor say aye all right opposed to carry moving on to 2c this is number one settlement and release agreement between the city of moose lake and michael mcnulty are we looking for consensus or you want a motion [2:50] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** do you have to have a motion okay [2:54] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** if uh if there is an agreement with all the members you should have all got the information i know it [3:05] **Council Member Walter Lower III:** i'll make a motion to accept the settlement release agreement [3:16] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** any questions all in favor say aye aye opposed won't be carried moving on to number three this is a for public comment this time reserved for comments from the public on matters not listed on the agenda please keep comments to three minutes [3:44] **Rob (Resident):** hello uh i'm here today because i've been having a lot of issues with atvs in my road they've been speeding i've had airplanes going wheelies cutting through my neighbor's yard and i have reached my tipping point where i am concluding that normally i don't like to come and complain and not offer a solution but i've got no idea how we can fix this and it's not even just on the weekends anymore i had a guy fly by last month he went by twice i'm assuming he's out of the campground but i don't know i called 9-1-1 on that one and i i never heard anything and i would have to assume that the police have better things to do than chase a bunch of kids on atvs the only idea i've got that i would love to see is me abandoning them outright in [4:30] **Rob (Resident):** our california i think the reason we have so much traffic up here is because they come from the cities where it has been banned in their town because of the way they arrive i think we could easily write a city ordinance banning them and still permitting local residents within the city limits access to the trails from their ends you know i i know a couple of kids in town that drive by my house going to the trails i work with one of their dads and their kids are respectful and obey the laws and have an issue with them the people that i generally have issues with i see them once and that tells me they are not from around here and so yeah i'll keep coming every month if i have to try to figure something out but i'd like to see something get done this year [5:17] **Rob (Resident):** uh fortunately enough i think during the pandemic it wasn't terrible last year year before it was bad last year it seemed kind of calm but i'm already off to a bad start this year i don't know if anybody you know where i'm at i live on 7th street across from the old school so i tend to get the campground traffic i know we've had kids going by on golf carts again they're usually not a problem because golf carts can't go that fast but i've i've had golf carts go by at night with no lights on and that's dangerous too so yeah that's all i got hopefully yeah yeah [5:54] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** my question for darren yeah darren could you come are you i can't i was going to address that anyway on my part my question is isn't that my understanding is that is the way it is is you're only supposed to be able to [6:03] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** take the role from your city to the directly to the trail right yeah they're not supposed to be driving all around we did have a couple that were from the campground that we did stop and i think cited because they had some that were running right through the stop signs one of them was the dirt bike um we did a saturation where we had six game wardens here over the weekend myself and one of ours we stopped 100 atvs in a five-hour period of time so yeah it is gets to be a lot and that's what we're trying to find that mix because it is tough for homeowners that haven't come by and doing something especially if they have kids we've reduced speed limits in two places where we've had higher complaints from 30s down to 20s [6:48] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** most of the people we stopped i mean there's packs of 15 driving in a row and anybody that lives on the street probably doesn't want to see that coming by on a regular basis but if they're not breaking the law that's a set atv route in the city that's you know where they're traveling but for the most part you know we're keeping them off of the state highways because they can't be there the industrial road and that new section of trails where they're supposed to be we've had some talks with holiday while putting in a new bridge because to get to the businesses because that really shouldn't be to us or any of that atv clubs because it's their personal business so they're going to be uh business you know putting it in the bridge or at least [7:34] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** we had a meeting with minda today about a restriping project over the bridge where they plan to take a look at possibly shifting the two lanes a little bit on the bridge and creating a separate atv laying through there with some delineated posts that can be taken down for snow plowing so bill and i met on that this morning so midnight had their engineers here looking at a few different things so they're trying to figure out options for all these things it's uh you know i understand where rob's coming from because you know where do you i mean it's a lot i mean even for us out there working it they're just everywhere i mean like i said most of the times we probably have 500 here a weekend yeah yeah so it's like you know where do they go what do they do yes it's good for business here and we see holidays pumps are full all day long [8:20] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** with them it's just a portion of you know if we look at some residential areas that they're not allowed but then you have the one homeowner that lives there well i want to drive mine from here to here you know so it's just going to be trying to find that balance you know maybe we look at it again or with some committee or have some other people um i said i appreciate you even thinking about options because what are they i mean we can all sit and say i don't like to sound like this but we've got to have a solution for it and try to work around as much as we can from enforcement to design to you know whatever the dnr asked again today about parking form here since the depot's no longer available and there really isn't an option here besides the county one out closer to the freeway of expanding that the city really doesn't have the property for that we've all met we've driven around we've looked at different [9:06] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** sites for it just doesn't have they ever looked at the airport [9:11] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** i don't think i know we talked about it and stuff like that we were going to talk to i think greg from the county uh to see about it um right so yeah that's another area we can look at um that we talked about on the north end of town which again doesn't really lose business for us because most of the ones that are coming in are coming from the south and there's no way to get back on there so they have to come through town anyway [9:42] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** so um yeah answer your question i mean we stopped with tommy um yeah we have things in the campground on their uh you know the website for when they book in they have all the rules and regulations and we passed out flyers to everybody we're trying to get new maps for them and i get it when you call it's like they're probably gone by the time you get there unless they're in the campground but yeah [10:06] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** well uh is jeff handing out the maps or the rules in the maps at the campground [10:11] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** well i know we put it on the website so they should have it and we gave them the stack and i haven't heard that they've run out so we'll get them some more because we've told that too when you see them come in and you know they're pulling some atvs on the back those are the people that definitely got a target make sure that they know this [10:29] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** so okay yeah i know it's no easy answer we've this has come up many times in the past 15 years and since it's with past for legal to drive in the city i know it's come up probably four times to man and that has never passed to bannon so i i we try to work with what we have and make the rules available and more strict and maybe we can be more strict with where what roads they can that's probably not a bad idea what streets they can actually drive on and [11:14] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** it doesn't designate those few and you know really try to keep more out of the really heavy residential because i get it if you're getting that campground aircraft boots we did have some that were running right through every stop sign and speed so we know what's happening it's just a matter of how many can you catch you know you go fishing you don't catch all the fish in the lake so it's pretty tough but yeah and i get that get the frustration you know like i said if i was living there and i saw them all coming by over and over again and some are you know pretty loud even though they're doing the speed limit you got groups of 15 on pretty regular basis has to be a lot yeah [11:53] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** so darren would you appreciate having a committee from a city perspective established [11:59] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** i think we could i mean we could get a you know some different group somebody you know like from the county ourselves here some you know the residents around the area that are interested or having any issues and trying to maybe look at how we maybe manage the flow of it but even right now the bulk of the people that we're stopping they just don't know where they're going or what to do and it's the education piece but when it's new people every weekend coming in you lose that piece so and then we're always usually short-handed we can't do get six game wardens in us every weekend you know it's just one person out there trying to kind of do it so but yeah we should look at maybe doing that and if we have some interest or whatever we can maybe narrow the routes down a little bit more sure so thank you very good [12:44] **Arnold Beehler (Resident):** i'm arnold beehler i live up in the trailer park from the past resident 25 years ago i was here at moose lake i've been back now for two years first of all i'd like to know uh city ordinances what do we have for ordinances in retrospect to cars and vehicles and junk parked along the streets that are there forever that have been sunk into the road surfaces full of junk sitting there be it's ridiculous i think you go down here to uh what is it fourth street and uh [13:33] **Arnold Beehler (Resident):** yeah uh entirely sue hill yeah over my mom i'm talking about over here across from the veterans park all right right across the street there's demolition cars been parked there there's so many vehicles on that corner it's an eyesore and i uh i'd like to see some of this cleaned up right down the street here two residents south of the chiropractor the front yard there's old mattresses laying there stacked up that wind up having to be a health hazard the ultimates have to be getting into those uh stuff like this [14:19] **Arnold Beehler (Resident):** i i love this community and my concern is that we is there ordinances to address this [14:27] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** they're online we do have we do have an organs that addresses some of these and so i'll give you a copy of this before um before you leave so i have printed a copy for you what what we're running into is it's not all-inclusive so we actually share your sentiments and your concerns um in the background it's something that i'm working on with chief judgment to redefine this ordinance to make sure that it's more inclusive to our current needs in addition we have some process pieces that we're working on from a city perspective in order to be able to cite presidents for violating this ordinance so we have two [15:06] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** two avenues that we're working on and it's a redefining this ordinance and then be the process piece of being able to actually issue citations for this [15:15] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** so yeah i know that wasn't aren't he's talking about because we didn't talk to the one right on the corner across from the veterans park that these vehicles need to be moved the registration's out of date they don't look like they run and now they're starting to collect a little bit more and the one they've got i think for those derby cars sitting out down all that connection 30 days and it's got to be an operating vehicle if it's not it has to be completely closed in and fenced in there you go we'll get them out of there i mean but it's just you pick out one even the one with the mattresses we hit the other one that's the person that lives there had a different one they cleaned that one up this one's a mess so and when it's long grass we have that too you know anything over eight inches they got to be able to [15:51] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** cut but we could spend all day going around and doing it but we do i agree i think it's eyesore you know to get it out of there so hazard [15:59] **Arnold Beehler (Resident):** mosquitoes on the long grass and that is not quite such a concern but uh the the new lift station up there uh on fourth street where it goes up to the park rv park why did they stop tar on that street halfway down why did they go to the [16:21] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** that's going to be redone right that whole sex wow and the city streets are almost impossible to drive on we're working on that too [16:30] **Arnold Beehler (Resident):** yeah i know it costs money and it costs money here but i feel that the same thing make here bring it up it irritates me too [16:37] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** and we've talked about it even prior to this that that stuff needs to get cleaned up so we're addressing some of our ordinances that need to get cleaned up to meet well standards [16:48] **Arnold Beehler (Resident):** yeah it to me there's been a deficiency for several years here you know and it's got out of hand so that's something i'm concerned about is that i like moose and i wanted to look like nice little city inviting two people to come and live here you know at business expansions we need the money all right thank you if those of you guys are halfway through the summer you can come yeah i all right thank you all right i'll excuse myself thank you [17:22] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** thank you [17:32] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** any probably more public comments we're actually going to move you up this is different so [17:42] **Sean (Moose Lake Brewing Co.):** sam's automotive detailing is doing our car show during pega days he wanted to know if i could bring in a tent with beer there to try to bring people into his area more i said that's super pushing it there are meetings tonight and i have no idea i'm not asked anybody so i'm just kind of throwing it out there if it is too late to talk about that that's fine with me if it's not i'll just throw in a license request and we can do it whichever you guys think [18:21] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** where is that oh man yeah daisy's doing a car show [18:26] **Sean (Moose Lake Brewing Co.):** show he's not in it i thought it was gonna be over the park [18:31] **Council Member:** oh is it at the park [18:33] **Sean (Moose Lake Brewing Co.):** he's he said in the grass section of the arena that's what he does oh maybe it was that i didn't assume it was gonna be over at the yeah like i said i said all i could do was go ask and i said [18:53] **Sean (Moose Lake Brewing Co.):** it's going to be sunday i know the meetings with you know the days committee things that were on that that was talking that they were going to have one i thought for some reason thought it was the part but maybe not i would not call a park beer yeah they would not have it at the arena no there's no room for it there david days i'm pretty sure it's in the park he thought the same thing yeah at the meeting that's what we were told but okay yeah i i'm just going to youtube i requested if i could go after that man i don't know so that was it so you guys wanted to discuss if you had any questions i'll answer it but yeah i know it's last minute and if i if i did go to do it i'd have to submit a request probably even tomorrow but and when when is legal days like 16 17 so we would be a sunday they're going to do it when it's all you [19:39] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** could still apply for the next city council meet no yeah yeah it takes that it takes almost a month it does i think there's a process period so i believe our meeting is on the 13th of july yeah [19:53] **Sean (Moose Lake Brewing Co.):** and i found out just yesterday he's trying to get more people to come to there to make it bigger or whatever you know that's his thought behind the reasoning or whatever so um yeah someone might come to the city council meeting and see if you guys say and i totally understand this is i'm not even pushing it i'm just asking is the thing that the council is comfortable with [20:13] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** um my recommendation would be you know approving a temporary off sale license contingent upon you know whatever contingencies you have and then i would work with sean on approving the permit and getting it submitted [20:24] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** i don't really see anybody the only thing would be is it's on a sunday if there's hours of operation that no time car shows on day three more in the morning 11 am to 3 p.m i just thought it was really early that probably [20:42] **Sean (Moose Lake Brewing Co.):** he just wanted me to be there to help bring people in whatever right [20:58] **Sean (Moose Lake Brewing Co.):** he wanted me to be there i don't care if you know he wanted both of us or one of us only or whatever like i said it's where he just wants to have something there to kind of try to bring more of an event feel to it [21:14] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** i think he said he i don't he's not asking the community so but it'd be all your personnel and your costs [21:22] **Sean (Moose Lake Brewing Co.):** yeah are they after the council on they want to consider it at this point contingent uh it'd be your liability and the car yeah i owe a two million dollar insurance certificate i just put the six eight of those a year um you guys would be listed as other insured in case anybody tried to say hey city property whatever the case may be i haven't quite figured that with black and white no problem there um it just it's literally like you know a few days away from not being able to get that permit that's why i just had to ask [22:06] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** recommendation by this administrator i guess something council i have no objections to i don't believe that we turned down any any uh requests in the past that met all legal requirements and i think they've been a a good fit for brewery's not always coming in and trying to do us right they ask the right questions so i think that they have handled it right i think that we if we do improve it that we should look at this afterwards and see if there were any issues that need to be addressed or if it was not a success and there wasn't a family type event type deal that doesn't fit in with what we're doing that's one thing i would like to look at otherwise i'm kind of in china [22:55] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** elaine do you have any input i mean i don't have any problem with it just i think it's really it's a short event [23:05] **Council Member Elaine:** you know i mean we're [23:35] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** one second any more discussion all in favor say aye aye aye opposed emotion carried [23:59] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** and this is a loose leg drilling company small viewer off sale license you want me to speak to what this is about a little bit yeah [24:10] **Sean (Moose Lake Brewing Co.):** so the minnesota brewers guild has worked on this one for about three years it's piggybacked with the growler loss so some of the bigger breweries that make over 20 000 barrels of beer a year can go back to selling drawers they succeeded in all this so it's statewide legal now municipalities have the right to grant or not to grant all the legal ramifications or all the real illegal parameters i i should have said um so what i'm asking is that my part of this that i would fit into is i'm a brewery that makes 2 000 or less barrels a year it's a small brewers license and [24:45] **Sean (Moose Lake Brewing Co.):** i could instead of selling only a half a gallon or 750 milliliters one purchase per gas per day they could buy a four pack so why this one hits home with me a lot is because the four packs i can make with a machine with one guy easier to produce less time less cost per container and like beers like the higher alcohol like the whiskey chip or some of our other beers that are you know eight to 12 percent 750 milliliters is too much of that one container for one person to bring home and consume them and it's just it's dangerous so it would open up another sales opportunity for me to be able to do that [25:30] **Sean (Moose Lake Brewing Co.):** so statewide it was just legalized the 10 minutes before i brought her the application so yeah and then any questions you'd have i'm very well versed in that i could answer all the questions involved with this but it's one one purchase per person per day they could bring home a four pack we'll never do six is we're only going to do forest shouldn't say never before now we're only doing it for us so they could buy a four pack of the whiskey chip instead of a 750 milliliter container of the whiskey chip that's the difference [26:11] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** chief any input [26:13] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** no i mean they've always been great running a great establishment there and we never really have any issues so i think it's probably a good plan it's you know a safety issue for some of the people and it's good to see that that's part of the concern so i think it's a good plan [26:27] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** you're laying any input okay i think that's a great idea listen and we've removed all of their licenses for the brewery and we've never had an [26:47] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** all in favor say aye aye opposed welcome carrie [27:04] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** 2022 mayor members of the council um some of that we've already covered we'll run through our may totals for 280 calls for service 77 extra patrol 87 traffic stops not including the 100 atvs we stopped we had 28 community engagement events 9 assists to other agencies and 87 calls for service along with two medicals so summer's definitely kicking into here this month already uh like i've talked to somebody already the mental health thing seems to be our biggest challenge right now we're taking probably one to two of those calls almost daily so it's tying us up for quite a bit of time um but we're moving forward trying to find some other options on a few things but i think it's probably here to stay [27:50] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** and we'll just feel that as it comes but um a couple of our squads were damaged with hail over this last you know go around like everybody else here and talk to alyssa which and i guess phil and everybody's going to try everything together and we'll move forward with the damage on that uh we brought up last time about the new aeds we are getting those so i'm sending the one officer up to umd for training so we'll get brand new aeds for the department and we're also getting some of the ones from the county that are still functional that they were just going to get rid of so excited to take some of those so we can supply more areas around the city here so we'll be getting those coming in and yeah we brought up the atv thing and the meeting for today with mndot so i think it's really nice that mndot's [28:36] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** taking it serious to be on down here with a lot of their engineers and looking at plans to try to do this i don't know that was pretty good meeting today after it was out there and um so yeah we'll look and see where it goes uh mary from the dnr was there for the grants and now that it is moving up and over there that is part of the granting trail system so then we are eligible for grant money to do some of these projects [29:04] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** a question there when you're talking about etvs you're all inclusive with like a side by side and do you find what what do you find is the most problem machine is it [29:15] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** it's the side by sides right now that are just driving right down the main lane from one of the town to the other with little kids in there with no helmets just you know going right through town and you know most of the people just don't know where to go and it's an education piece and everybody's been pretty polite that we've dealt with you know of course we get some that aren't too happy we stopped a couple of people more than once during the day for speed or different things on certain trails so yeah but had a busy weekend and it was good to kick it off we'll have new people you know this weekend and next weekend some will be the same but it's uh yeah i mean the trail routing and stuff like that is going to help a lot we did do some markings on some of the pavement but we'll see over the bridge but i think people are starting to get to get the message yeah but it's usually the side-by-sides they think i got turn signals i got lights i got brakes so i can drive down the lane of traffic and no you can't so but other than that that's what all i have it's uh yeah we've been busy but if you guys have any questions [30:23] **Council Member Walter Lower III:** i just really like to see the traffic stops our way up on the proactive uh police departments greatly appreciated especially in uh the areas of residential i've seen squads uh stop and people aren't using stop signs and uh you guys are stopping them so just thank them [30:42] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** yeah i will appreciate that because it's one of the things we have talked a little while back about that you know when you start picking that up it's a small town walk that balance of things you don't need to go crazy but you need to start forcing some of this stuff that's the only way it's going to keep that balance i want to send out that pie chart i would want it's kind of balance on what you're spending your time on so appreciate that so yeah i'll mention it [30:54] **Chief Daren Juntunen:** to everybody and everybody is kind of stepping it up and 280 calls that's hot yeah so yeah this is probably going to be increasing all through the summer but yeah but no everything's going well you know we had a couple people that were out on medical leave on our back so that helps a lot so yeah you guys have any complaints or whatever it's just easiest to go deal with them right away you know even with arnie here tonight hopefully he knows that we're looking at the same thing he is so it's just a matter of things take time to get through that but thanks all right pass it on please thank you [31:38] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** city superintendent department report for may 2022 [31:46] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** mr mayor members of consulting mr owens um very busy month um if you notice it seems like we're working on a different corner every day whether it's here there everywhere it's it's been very busy um we'll start off here in the water department uh the month of may distributed 5.3 million dollars drinking water fire hydrants that were ordered two months ago one is installed just down the street here the other one we chose to remove um we're gonna we're gonna reinstall that one um by the time we got down to it we figured out the utility complex we were gonna have as far as we're gonna have to move some storms through we're gonna have to move gas line um and then the water beam was undersized there anyway for that there was there was no there was no reason to [32:32] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** put that back in place um from that area there was three other serviceable hydrants within 300 feet of that one location and that hydra has been hit three times since i've been here so let's get it out there right so we removed that one uh which is great because now we got a spare which it seems like every fall we always need to have another one put in last minute and right now they're really tough to get so we're good fair sewer department uh collected 21.2 million gallons of wastewater so we're way up everyone knows it's super wet right so that means ionite is a problem right right so lining project good stuff right yes absolutely um i think we're talking about that later street department pothole feeling as [33:18] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** always we've been uh we've been a little axe on this not gonna lie we've been spread pretty good we're going to hit it really hard here before the fourth of july got a couple loads of hot mix coming in works a lot better for matching material if we have enough left over which we will so you'll see some of that happening here at the end of the month for sure um laptop patching itself as far as play patches we're going to start it on them i think we got almost a dozen materials so there's there's quite a few um the fourth street road project we're talking about that fixed a little later here two cemeteries campground park uh for the most part everything's kind of fired on all cylinders here um it's very busy respect very thin guys are already tired but we're we're doing our thing it's good it's summer i mean everything's it's it's summer we love it so [34:05] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** uh the class five road to the fireworks shooting location are you talking about that creator i'll hold off on that too um cemeteries they're busy i mean weekly weekly we're out there doing burials so it's it's very busy um yeah kind of a sad thing but at the same time it does take a lot of our time in your packet on page 50 you will find a whole bunch of forms from uh minnesota pump works what those are are uh lift station service checks there's a lot of info right there we're not gonna cover it all right now if anyone has any questions please track them down i will gladly go over it with you to whatever detail you would like um we are going to talk about this a lot in [34:51] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** september because there is a lot of money we got to spend in our wastewater site and drilling stations so between uh melissa myself we're gonna we're gonna do some discussions there you're going to see a pretty good amount of money i think in 2023 we're gonna have to build some of this up here so just so it's not a shock in september just just throwing it out there so um i think that's all i have um [35:19] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** i can't remember the name of what you call it at the cemetery the above ground burial yeah any word on that when that will start [35:36] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** yes we've um we've been working with mike we actually went to see some and got a good idea of what would be the best fit for our usage uh what we liked what we didn't like about some of the columbariums at other cemeteries in the area we are waiting and working with mike on some quotes after having some of those experiences and seeing some of the other columbariums so we have not yet purchased one um but we will be and then we'll keep you in the loop as far as what we end up um deciding on and what time tables are about [36:09] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** look at four or five and that was actually a really good move because the first couple we saw were big wooden i mean i i thought they were i thought they were junk that was duct tape involved there was there was plastic plastic containers involved yeah [36:24] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** it was terrible so i mean there's actually a few more i think we're going to go look at i think it's at first i was thinking you know i got a lot better things to do than run around and look at these but um i'm really glad we went looked at them because they were they were junk and that poor community just north of us is stuck with their evidence to do that and that's just the way it is there were some that had double door plates so when if one was already inscribed and in use but the other side needed to be utilized they would have to remove both as one unit and send it off and so then somebody else is sitting without their front placard and then behind it was just a plastic um case front that was taped on i mean there's it was bad so we've learned a lot we found some really nice ones and [37:09] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** um hopeful that they'll fall within the approved budget amount and that's kind of what we're working on in the background because the last thing we want to do is we're all talking a lot of money right for this thing the last thing we want to do is get it there and have it be what we found right [37:25] **Council Member:** well i guess if i could say something if if we find one that we want and it's a little beyond what we talked about we should re-talk about it because i don't want to spend that kind of money and just buy something to settle and it's not [37:41] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** also gave us an idea of you know what cement work we want done with it and what you know how we want it laid out or what direction it's facing and all those different experiences and expansion opportunities so it's been really good it's taking a little longer than we had anticipated but we are making progress on it [37:57] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** a little bit of effort in this is going to turn these things up just gorgeous and the community [38:08] [Music] [38:16] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** but moving right along and it's pretty much in place for that and hopefully it's a more successful year than last year it's going to be really broad it's going to be drawn out we're going to have events from the 1st through the 4th still not here but hopefully it will be here by 4th of july about that it's going going well down there it's busy tourists are back summer people are mad so busy um i'm just impressed at how busy it's nice to see all the all the cars parked there i haven't found the ice cream truck yet thank you [39:51] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** for the technology library department monthly update [39:54] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** yes um we've been working with rory in the background um looking at some equipment quotes and we have received well we've received some they are not equivalent to one another so we're kind of in the process of dissecting them and kind of trying to determine what our immediate needs are and then asking for quotes that are more relevant to exactly what those specific needs are and making sure that we have two equivalent quotes to present so that's kind of happening in the background rory's been working with the school to secure an intern for some summer hours which is excellent so they'll be working on you know content and additional opportunities so that's exciting we'll have more information on that to come as well the library did have a book sale laura mentioned that it was extremely successful i should have numbers on that for next month but um everything's going well in both departments [41:09] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** we should talk about the room our spare room over here just a couple selections [41:14] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** sure so um there's an office directly adjacent to the council chambers it had turned into a storage facility primarily there was a space in there that rory was utilizing as well for uploading and things of that nature we are trying to do a little bit of a reorganization hoping to to find uh some space within our technology room and create a workstation in there and at that time then the county would move into that office and have their own office space that is part of our agreement with the county culture or the exclusivity township and the township it's part of our agreement with them it's something that we've kind of been working towards there are times where the township comes in and we have our workstations or are utilizing that space or they don't have any privacy so i think it i felt like it was important to give them a dedicated space as per their contract and then that allows us to expand our office space so looking to give phil an office space up there and the [42:08] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** new admin position and office desk as well so this will allow us to accomplish all those things [42:15] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** conscious was real happy to hear that about giving back enough [42:20] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** township is very excited and it was tough having them intermixed with you know whatever we had going on in that space there was no privacy or or differentiation so this will give them a dedicated space to work in and it's utilizing the space better than it was previously being utilized [42:43] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** and then do we still have a concern or a need for a rory and technology done for a space because that space is pretty small as well [42:55] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** it is pretty small we've been looking at what equipment is still in use what equipment is no longer in use we have workstations that we can utilize in the library as well looking at one of those spaces potentially be where the interns at we're going to keep being creative and keep finding solutions and we'll make sure that everybody has what they need [43:16] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** great any questions see the engineer monthly updates meeting minutes [43:24] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** yes there's a lot of information there um wanted to just kind of extend an open invitation if anybody would like to ever attend in any of these meetings they do get rather lengthy um but the invite is always there uh great stuff is covered a lot of the items that we covered this month will be addressed later on within the meetings but a couple of points that i did want to highlight as we've all seen the trail work on the trail has initiated we have a substantial completion timeline date of june 17th and then a final completion date of june 24th so it's sounding like we'll be able to meet these timelines at this time um in addition something that occurred this month is the lc cmr grant application was submitted uh the application was for 3.7 million dollars worth of funding for a campground expansion um that has taken place throughout the course of the month and then in addition one thing we discussed heavily with the engineers and something we want to look at moving forward is making sure that um our budget activities align with timelines that are conducive to getting projects out for bid in a timely fashion so we're going to look at that when we look at the budget this coming year and make sure that we're our activities are aligning with what's best for the bid process and for the city in that aspect so it's something that we're having open dialogue with and that we're just going to continue to work on to do [44:53] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** better maybe a little update on since the legislature at this stage walked away from the table with 9 billion sitting there we're kind of up in the air on that project we've been trying to work with the state facilities on the sewer the old sewer line we have and the line we put in the twin roads right up to the front door so it's kind of in a holding pattern we're not sure what direction that's going to go now because that was tied up with all that money and i don't the governor has not called them back to the table so i don't know what will happen and i don't think phil you've got any update for your contact up there and i know you haven't either alyssa so we're we're just sweating we're looking at options [45:49] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** yeah the city engineers have discussed options for moving forward without state funding at this time and what that looks like between doc and what the city could potentially budget for or could extend in partnership with the project so we are going to open those conversations up versus you know waiting on waiting out of hope and prayer so we're going to continue to work on that to make sure that we make progress so our engineers are currently working on the next communication that will be distributed to all parties [46:33] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** we can look at that area for ini funding and hopefully get their participation anything else on engineer report any questions during none we'll move on to the chamber commerce updates brian give an update [47:07] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** the chamber's working hard on all their summer events so they are constantly looking for volunteers they send out some great communications have stuff on their website and on there um on their facebook page if anybody's looking to get involved or to volunteer or to attend events in addition they are reworking their job description for their they accepted a new job description for their executive director position and will be posting for an opening for that position too effective immediately so you're moving from a part time to a full-time position so that will probably come out in july sometimes [47:53] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** moving on to five previously discussed business 5a lecture drive culvert depressing [48:04] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** so last month i brought up uh what page are we on sorry um 68 ish yep 68 looks like brought up a culvert we need a box culvert we need to replace uh i think these are those pictures black and white okay so you know 77 79 of those pictures um i was asked to have some discussion with doc i uh got a little bit from them but not much but it was not a whole lot of cooperation on their end regardless we still need to replace the gallery um listen i met with ed delves up there it was shortly after last council meeting anyway and there's a response i hear from them pretty much saying they're not gonna know what we tried so uh i guess i just circled those estimates right back in here for uh approval for tonight or more discussion for tonight deciding what to get one here here in those old state hospital crossing for cattle to their farm that they had on the opposite side ed was heard us was listening from he shared from a perspective on the line if it's not on their property it's hard for them to access and with fun stores get funds so that was the answer that we received [49:34] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** so what are you recommending phil [49:37] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** we gotta do something it's it's in our right of way when it fails it's gonna be my phone that rings and it's gonna work if it fails we're gonna be buying a fight last minute throwing in all their anyway so questions always been proactive to get things done and just moving on before we discuss more how in the world you place that you put the metal on the inside of the wood because you can pull the wood out or what you're worried about collapsing [50:11] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** yeah so so we'll set the pipe first we'll take the top off completely set the pipe in place so it doesn't and then pull the sides and then complete it back up together and then build our toe slopes pull everything off strip it right down to the box the wood box correct and then you know that's that's all wood and i mean i don't i don't care what type of wood it is it's organic so it will rot so we do not want to leave that in there it should come home that's the right way to do it so i mean regardless if it fails i mean i i get it i get where you guys are coming from but if it fails it's going to be estimated somewhere but anyway [50:52] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** to be honest when i went to look at it i had more safety concerns after looking at it and seeing it in person than i did prior to and i have a huge concern that when it's time for plowing that we would we could potentially have a bad scenario i could probably know about it and if some kids went in there and something happened and they hadn't acted then it would be our fault too i mean there's regardless it is starting to cave in from the inside and then from the outside on top of the road there are some issues and you have to potentially send somebody or something off down into the [51:39] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** it's our lowest bid is 3001 1806 yes do you recommend them over [51:46] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** yeah absolutely yep jerry does an awesome job and he's [51:48] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** any further questions discussion [51:52] **Council Member Walter Lower III:** i'd like to see the 3 100 1806 added to the better landing project when it's time as a line item that's my only discussion just because i'm frustrated with that it was it was for them and now the citizens of some conditions [52:14] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** thank you [52:24] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** thank you bill moving on to 5e pedestrian bridge update [52:28] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** uh yes on page 83 or it starts off page 80. um the pictures start on page 83. i just wanted to give a little um peek into what the public works department has been working on we've got the communication from the county that there were some issues with our bridge our pedestrian bridge and so what i included in the packet was the fix that the public works department came up with and the county is just absolutely thrilled with um what we've come up with so much so that they continue to come down here and take a look at it so it went really well we have completely satisfied all the requirements [53:28] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** old school property updates [53:31] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** uh yes i gave an update at our last economic development authority meeting so i just wanted to do the same here i did have some communications with the owner of the old school property a couple items were addressed he wanted to make sure that the neighboring residents and community was aware that he will continue to maintain the lawn and have higher mowing service things of that nature to try and keep the exterior and the land well kept in the interim here he shared that he took my recommendation to contact the county for an opportunity to crush materials on site and then sell them to the county and so what his estimate is based on their current price would be a 200 000 deduction of cost for demolition of the building so it's a step at the same time he also shared that estimates for demolition are now approaching two million dollars versus one million dollars so the 200 000 um materials monies are helpful but they're a small dent so he's continuing to be creative and look around and i will continue to share updates [54:57] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** moving on to 5d 4th of july fireworks update and i think we gave that last month a good idea they came up with a good suggestion so you can fill on where we are [55:12] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** so last month we talked about putting in a road out to the point um that was something that was going to require or excuse me accomplish some of the requirements for being able to utilize that as a permanent suit shoot site moving forward so um i would encourage everybody to head down there the public works department is working on it it's not quite done yet but should be wrapped up by weekend yeah so it looks great and um it's going really well so let me know it opens up that whole tent there it actually makes it easier for anyone utilizing it so multiple purpose so absolutely the way it was designed in the route that was um designated will allow it access to the template so it is something that we can continue to use year-round thanks [56:15] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** number six new business 6 a.m moose lake waterline eastman's request members council senior minister oh uh [56:28] **Jim Pederson (Power Superintendent):** we're working on a double feeder line between the substations and part of that is another line between on the highway 73 and eventually you want to vacate the line that currently goes through there but just getting the project started we need an easement along highway 73 and it's nicer to go on our property because if the state expands the right-of-way they have to pay us to move those power lines apparently a few years ago when they had a summary free expansion project under three work they had moved some of our power lines we had a table's uh pocket uh and also eventually when we get this in place we're going to vacate this other event eventually it goes through that basically the center of the property that would open up the owners so they can expand in that area by talking with the city attorney and with the under underground coordinates and the united way awareness you proceed to having the city uh attorneys do the paperwork on the uh easement the best to have your approval [57:51] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** how far off are we on we're up the eastman it goes into the ditch and it goes up so we're beyond that even if you're up on the bank top of the bank there okay and where this apparent easement is it kind of goes through a swampy area so it makes uh maintain that right-of-way account kind of difficult at times so david johnson owns that the attorneys will do all the coordination and the with the easements and done with the attorneys they said any titan like their easements get prior approval then give it to them [58:43] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** they don't take off on that question by the council that david johnson has no problems with this [58:52] **Jim Pederson (Power Superintendent):** he has not even seen this yet uh mr johnson has passed away so it is uh uh [59:02] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** any other questions or motions i like the motion [59:30] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** moving on new business the first street reconstruction project schedule or schedule um [59:49] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** so we got our first schedule you'll find our schedule on page 90 by the way sorry um we got our first one two weeks ago something like that looked horrible looked absolutely horrible they wanted to start third week in august final completion by deer hunting no it's horrible never never gonna get that done um had a little discussion with the engineering group they whatever they did they came back with this schedule this one looks amazing let's jump all over it let's do it booped it up six weeks at least right [1:00:30] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** yeah i think they're thinking like 64 days of actual construction is what they're hoping for there's a few there's likely eight or ten days built in for bad weather or something but for the most part i mean it's only 800 feet or something it's not the end of the world so it should be pretty good um and i think we've heard i don't know how we did this but you know a little bit of pushback goes a long ways [1:00:54] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** yep that i agree with what i know what i don't know how we did was get the pricing we got in the economy guy that's what i don't have no idea how we got that um so i think i we got to take it and run for sure hands down but that's just my input my opinion [1:01:11] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** so we've awarded the bid um with consensus or approval of this uh project schedule so to speak i will sign the contract and submit it so i've not signed the official contract yet i wanted to make sure that everybody was aware and um in agreeance with the project schedule so council [1:01:31] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** and this turns us around from starting in august to starting in july yeah and uh how are we going to reroute uh camping and notify the campers and camping and how to get you know here to the park [1:01:51] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** yep so the notification will be part of a fight's signing plan as far as detours and everything else um last fall we actually made provisions at the entrance to the campground and widened that by about 50 feet to make that right-hand radius in the campground with trailers more than wide enough for too late traffic the the downfall is we are going to have to use the park parking lot as the two-way street to go in and out and that's we just don't have an option um we could i'm sure if we worked with them we can open up that section of fourth street that is right by the new hump house periodically you know around construction obviously shut it down for utilities and then we'll get it back up the ground circuit open it back up to the intersection and here we don't but there'll be some up and down i'm sure with that um but for the most part that would be that would be the way to go in the mountain so it's going to be very congested it's going to be massive but it's kind of what it is [1:02:49] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** when are they going to start in july do they have a date [1:02:53] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** so they actually say the 26th okay is when they want to start i don't find that being realistic with contractors usually i would say after a long holiday weekend fourth of july they probably would have pretty hard i'm just saying because don't they have the old-fashioned fourth of july at the park so when we have our pre-con meeting with them we're gonna get into this really hard and bring that up to them that hey this is a deadline they have to meet and they have to have all those intersections open anyway which is probably going to deter them to start after the fourth regardless not to mention it's a holiday weekend it's the end of the month they're probably not they're always a week or two behind it puts you right into that fork it's going to be i think a really good mixture for the city for the contractor for any new good i think yes totally um when you're pulling in there to the park are you going to put signs no parking on that one side because if you have those other ones in the angle and they park there you'll not get a fifth wheel no you'll get caught so absolutely post that um we won't yeah they'll be part of white's science right but yes it will make sure that all those radius is gonna be made probably both in and out yeah however to make them freeze [1:04:06] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** yeah we're looking for a motion we want to make sure that the council could accept this new timeline schedule i don't know if i would need emotion we need uh maybe consensus just consensus [1:04:23] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** if you're going to agree establish after the fourth you well after a pre-bid is what i would say that we'll have but we'll have a better timeline in the bid documents they have to have they have to have a park open they have to have four street bursts that have third and birch that every after everything everything down there completely open for that egg of days there's a triathlon triathlon so we've been working with them on all of these are just those three so they have to do they have to take down their detour fill the intersection make it so it's passable so they have they have a big bush of exams okay yeah absolutely it's just more of a coordination between all of us so consensus with the new schedule yes that's your goals [1:05:14] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** moving on to 6c 2022 santa sewer line project project award [1:05:22] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** oh yes so the city engineers have made a recommendation to award the project to in situ form technologies it happens to be the entity that did our lining project last year that submitted the lowest bid in the amount of 290 101 based on their base bid and so their the city attorneys are looking at doing the base bid plus the ad alternate was their recommendation we have discussed this and um it is something that we have the monies for based on already having that hundred thousand dollars for the lining project initially we'll be utilizing some of that for our gis mapping system that we've talked about and um a rate study we will most certainly not be utilizing all of it and we are actually trying to accomplish a rate study um with um water at no charge but something that we're working on in the background um so we would have the money to do the ad alternate as suggested or recommended by our city engineers and that would finish that whole line then all the way to the to the west side of the beer west side yep if we're able to accomplish all that then looking forward we can look to move to other areas whether that be a project in coordination with doc or continue on with additional options but that would at least complete that entire segment so council questions indoor motion [1:07:05] **Council Member:** motion to approve is against the former what's it called in situ in situ form sorry i circled it i blocked it out motion two uh use in situ form technologies with the base bit of 290 000 101 and the alternate one bit of 3 317 and 20 cents [1:07:41] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** new business number d um this is the trail 73 trail project carlton county pay application number five [1:07:54] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** uh this is a standard pay application um again these monies will be submitted for reimbursement the payout pay application request amount for number five is fifty five thousand six hundred seventy nine dollars and twenty two cents [1:08:12] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** a motion for the council move have a second was that correct all in favor say aye all right [1:08:28] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** under 60 this is another 73 trail project change order number three [1:08:34] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** so chain show order number three um involves a culvert and a fix i know a lot of people had mentioned there was a low point in the trail that there was extra water that was collecting on the trail so once that was noticed this spring the city engineers had to go in and kind of rework that area um billy want to jump on you know man you're doing fine keep going i'm here so yeah essentially this change order is to rectify the low spot that was collecting water and not allowing drainage um the total change order for number three is thirteen thousand seven hundred seven dollars and fifty i cents [1:09:34] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** everyone saw where that was right past the fire department i have a motion to accept the change order have a second second all in favor say aye aye opposed motion carried [1:09:47] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** under 6 f this is another 73 jail project change order number four [1:09:50] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** uh yes so this change order is for a hydrogen riser i don't know if you've noticed as well along that same kind of section a little further down the way there is a fire hydrant that's currently under water so in order to raise it up which will be required just change order rectifies that issue the change order number four is an amount of two thousand two hundred sixty eight dollars and forty five cents um all with all these change orders i just wanna make mention that we've had some really in-depth conversations and serious conversations with the engineers regarding um fault liability is this something that just occurs occurs and we wouldn't know that the grading was off or was this part of the original plan where some of that lies we put a little pressure on back on our city engineers just to make sure that everybody's held accountable and so these are two that are tough for us to swallow um but we have put that pressure on we pushed a little bit harder on this change order number four to the point where we are getting a lot for this money they are also going to regrade around the area [1:11:08] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** yeah they're not filled correct [1:11:10] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** yeah so um with that push i think we're getting more than our money's worth on this particular change order um so i just wanted to make everybody aware that we are working in the background to make sure that these are appropriate and um yeah we'll continue to do that we're uh as a group effort um the mayor administrator myself or we're really looking into a lot of this um a lot of these just get thrown in quick and we're starting to realize how we need to look at them closer um i mean this one just needs to shop right through and that's fine whatever um but as far as before they get to this stage we need to i need to start asking a lot more questions and i really did with one that they brought up to the table that we ended up next thing but uh it was it's like anything else you know we pay a lot of money to these people to this company a lot and they do a great job but we just we just need to make sure they're they're still working for us 100 and we need to hold their feet to the player and hold everybody on the hole and there just needs to be a little bit more time dug in there and looked at it's easy to get looked over we all get busy but it's something that we can't expect absolutely [1:12:12] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** there was an additional change order recommended that we did deny that change order was for some signage on the trail that we were able to acquire or we'll be able to acquire the science in-house and our public works staff will be able to put it up for a fraction of the cost of the change order so just wanted to provide a little visibility into what we're doing in the background when we do receive these and there's other stuff that's you know taking place to make sure that we do our due diligence [1:12:39] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** good because last year i think we had about five or six that we've dealt with that 1d correct we just talked about one of our departments being um a lot of money in our budget and so thank you for doing that because this is something that i think we do need to have accountable yeah the well house that was a tough one that was there's a lot of unknowns and all projects are different too on these trails it seems to me it seems like a really simple project to have to have to change orders that are trying to come to the table which we're trying to address not let them come through sure yeah absolutely so we do happen they do absolutely and i'm not saying we shouldn't have them but they didn't get looked at do you have a motion to approve change order number four [1:13:44] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** overlay options this is something that i had asked for just to give us an idea of what what where and how at the last meeting daniella was um you asked me to look for i believe it was two sections we found i kind of found what you were asking for to kind of but as best as we could put together anyway um and it turned out to be a two glock section on douglas avenue um first street to third street it does have a little bit of utilities on it on the north block there's uh there's about 300 feet of water man and then the intersection there has sanitary and water as well um but we were looking for the intersection of the sections of the road that have at least if not any utilities in them at all and i wanted to provide a one block option for you and then a two lock option for you [1:14:38] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** so the first one you're looking at there is douglas having um it's it's called that was number 29 on our cip list so we've been doing this since 2019 2022 we're just doing our first project this is number 29 right so okay um this this pricing is coming out to be about four dollars and twenty cents per square foot to mill shaving a little way so that gives you that roughly that two block area including two intersections that start each and then falling short from the third or the north intersection of third in douglas just because of the utilities that are in that intersection you don't want to cover up obviously right we have to pick and choose a spot to start the muzzle make it so it works for us right that comes out to just shy of a hundred thousand dollars just a minute the next option is up on supervilla it's hickory avenue um that i left out the intersections completely because there's some serious utility construction that has to happen all those closing intersections as well so it's basically from edger right away line to edge right away line excluding the intersections which was about 300 feet actually four dollars and twenty twenty cents uh square foot figured out to be about forty one five eighty two that three hundred feet and that's mill shape and all of it [1:15:53] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** how much was the cost in the first one that you said double [1:15:58] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** it's on that previous page it's 99 792 it's up in the upper right-hand corner you can read my my android i apologize [1:16:10] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** okay that's one of the council to see some of us and if they're are we on the 29th and the 57th project project so they're probably 20 years out longer way longer 30 years no so i want that council to think about it in this next month if you want to look at and tackling one of these um we'll have a better handle on the budget at that time on where we are with um the projects that we're going and if there's any surprises and we may not do anything with them this year but maybe next year budget to do some kind of overlay on one of these just to get a handle on some of these that are so far out and they are so bad that that we should do something someday are here to do forestry i mean when because i know a lot of the cost comes into setting up position would this reduce the cost of one of these [1:17:34] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** i could sure ask them they'll be in town for two and a half months as soon as they get here and i get a little bit of a relationship with the truck and take a look and see so you can get some numbers if if you want me to get numbers on those two areas i will absolutely [1:17:50] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** well i would say the one that's the closest to what we're doing would be the douglas the 29th that's the two blocks in town and it's the closest to the project that we're working on that would probably make the most sense in my house it's pretty bad that i'm down there on that between second and first if i remember that's really bad [1:18:18] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** the guys hate going there because they stay there all day because it takes the most money just keep in mind you are covering up water maintenance 70 years old by you in that section whether it's how many years old i get that debt i totally do i really do but if they get it when they get to there because we just were just digging there last week a week and a half we were there till dark almost and it's and i i personally saw it myself and it was not it's old and it's undersized but i get your concern absolutely even a melon overlay i would do something with some of these screens i get it because that milan overlay we decided to do that'll be gone twice before we even get to put the pipe in the ground there i know i understand but if we tackle to me a reasonable amount a little bit every year every couple years you gotta do some of these that are so far out that you know that i'll never see those ones too i mean 30 years now it had me 100 years 102. [1:19:26] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** for me i appreciated seeing this information essentially as we look at next year's budget and we look at items and ways that you know when we have monies available what can we have the most impact with so keeping these figures in mind and as we plan and and come august as we start to look at things i mean it's just going to be really helpful um and if the council decides to implement some type of maintenance program um you know we can look at that or at least continue to provide information for consideration [1:19:57] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** yeah i think we have to at some point here thank you i appreciate that and you will look more into it with more data for council for absolutely next time um probably not next month probably in august i'll have you some numbers thank you [1:20:12] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** moving on to 6 8 riverside arena door replacement homes [1:20:17] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** in the packet you'll see two quotes um this is a budgeted item for 2021 excuse me 2022. i have audit on the brain um for 2022 for the arena so we have secured these two quotes and um they come in both of them coming under the budget in a moment [1:20:41] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** this is the recommendation to go with that 16 gauge store for a little bit extra money here it doesn't matter i would yeah absolutely [1:21:00] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** any questions or emotion [1:21:12] **Council Member:** well it looks like the one's cheapest for 25 direct 25 30. click on the door and go with the 99 so northern my motion fee for northern dorm hardware inc for the door or colt number 22-0 785 25 30 and then the 99 for the 16 years [1:21:40] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** all in favor say aye all right i suppose motion carried moving on to 6j legacy of excellent gambling permit [1:21:54] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** yes the legacy of excellence and with is they'd like to have a raffle so they are requesting the council approve a um off-site gambling at the siouxlin events and then [1:22:08] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** correct i'll make that a second okay all in favor say aye aye opposed motion carried [1:22:18] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** 6k post 379 gambling permit [1:22:20] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** uh yep this again is an offsite gambling permit this is for the american legion for their fourth of july activities and they are making a request to counsel to the offside gambling permit [1:22:36] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** i'll make that motion have a second [1:22:46] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** debt fund balance deficit [1:22:50] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** so you'll see includes in the packet a purple entry journal entry from our auditors so we were notified by our auditors of a legal compliance finding within our 2021 audit and what that entails is the finding stems from a state statute that requires the city levy for 105 of the debt service amounts so meaning the principal and interest payments combined and the annual figures of those for each of our debt service funds so after not raising the levy for four years and then issuing some more debt we have fallen below that state requirement and that's what that state statute requires so this initial communication essentially just allows us to be in compliance with the state statute by making this journal entry so as written this needs to be approved for our 2021 audit in addition when they come and do the exit presentation next month um they are going to have a lot of information and recommendations for what needs to occur with the levy for this next budget cycle [1:23:56] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** so i think this is good that we are at this point that we have not over taxed to the point where okay now we do have to raise the levy because we get the point where that balance is between death and reserve so right at the point where to me we should be at we're not over taxing yet we do have reserve so it'll it'll be uh to me a good discussion when they go over that [1:24:24] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** absolutely and the debt service funds are separate from the general fund so we're actually taking monies from the general fund and putting them to the debt service funds so it's not that we don't have monies in the general fund enough money's in the general fund it's how when our bonds were issued what the verbiage was and our bonds are issued based on being able to pay them through our levy so because we haven't essentially assigned them um sales tax or gas franchise fee or whatever these other monies are that we have coming in as revenue to be assigned to our debt payments it leaves the debt service funds off on an island so we need to make sure that we are assigning monies to them and the monies that are assigning to them coming through our life and we still have the reserve that we made during good place with federal reserve i think with the newest debt that we issued and then the debt service fund balance was just kind of dwindling so at some point whether it be four or five years ago there was a sufficient fund balance in there and then it just kind of slowly started to dwindle down um and so it is something that they caught this year and that will have to be addressed [1:25:52] **Council Member Walter Lower III:** question under these bonds is there a way to make an addendum to the uh verbiage in there or is that set in stone [1:26:01] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** i've had those same questions and uh we actually looked at just doing internal journal entries and utilizing some of the sales tax monies or natural gas franchise fees or things of that nature in order to cover our net service payments because that's essentially what we're doing anyways as those monies come into the general fund because of the verbiage of how those other entity or other forms of revenue were passed it wasn't identified in the sales tax that we could utilize it for bond payments so because of the verbiage and in those other items we now are at the point where we just have to use levies and and general fund monies we can ask i i think that we should because i don't see any point in us raising a levy we're going to have to as the mayor say it at some point but we all know that a 5 levy increase is going to increase our income about 25 000 and it's the 30 of the population that's paying 100 of the bill and there's no there's no reason for that in my mind i'd rather go backwards and see can we change that verbiage or or how or make an amendment to something and make it right because there's no reason to tax people that are being 100 [1:27:26] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** and i think our auditors will will have some suggestion for us and they may be able to answer that exact question and that's what we initially looked at doing this year and we're kind of strapped with how that how it's preserved now so they can provide a recommendation as far as would they recommend we do that or they recommend we use of other monies we talked about using the monies that come coming from the township as part of um utilities and rent and you know things of that nature there's monies coming in there it's just a matter of it has to be identified and defined and because it's not currently we are out of compliance this is informational only at this time i actually need a motion to approve because we are transferring funds from our general fund to our debt service funds [1:28:22] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** opposed motion carried moving on to 6m verizon wireless utility easement request [1:28:30] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** yes so um i received a request from verizon wireless um for the easement what they're looking to accomplish is essentially putting an antenna on top of the hillside manor east to increase service in the downtown area this project and and conversation started prior to my arrival so i know that there were a couple of solutions thrown out there as far as the water tower other types of service towers things of that nature thus far we've been unable to reach an agreed-upon approach with verizon when they came to us with this request i did send information to the relevant city departments and we have some utility conflicts within the requested easement um there's sewer main on the south side uh we have a conflict with a manhole as well so at this time what they're requesting is is not something i would recommend for the city as it stands currently so um open to further discussion i just wanted to make sure that i communicated from a city perspective and our city departments there we do have some issues with what's what's being presented here they were not willing to pay for the move movement or correction of any of the utilities right correct [1:30:11] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** so that's why why wouldn't we give them amusement when they're not gonna pay for all the work that needs to be done correct so open up for discussion or motion if we turn this down where do we go where does verizon go from [1:30:27] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** i would like to open conversations back up with them um and just kind of see if if they want to increase their service in the area then they're going to be willing to work with us this isn't what's best for the city this costs us more money than we are budgeted for [1:30:42] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** and they really wanted this and this became it was so important to them and why wouldn't they help us with that this pertains to the verizon customers only so you will talk to them again see if there's something else that we could possibly work out or absolutely okay it just has to be in the best interest of position as well correct [1:31:36] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** neighborhood revitalization program repayment request [1:31:39] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** uh yes i just wanted to um this is kind of four-year information only we were notified by carlton county of a repayment of indebtedness that um not budgeted for it's something that we really weren't aware of i know i wasn't aware of so it looks like we owe them some monies starting in 2022 and through 2024 i just wanted to make you aware i'm going to request make a request with accounting that we combined some of the payments and put them into the budget within the scope of the next couple of years so whatever that looks like i will continue to work on that um it was a little bit of a surprise not anything that we can't handle but um we're going to try and make it work in an upcoming budget versus this year [1:32:32] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** this is the kind of thing that has happened when you have change out of administrators it seems like there's always something that is not passed on it happened with the taliban and the pat and with tim and now with katie and it's just something we have to deal with yeah it's the demolition of the moose yeah i recall that discussion but i don't recall us borrowing money i thought that there was uh us a requirement that we it had to be a parking lot or something that we couldn't build on it there wasn't anything that the city council agreed to that we were going to be paying them back money that i recall i don't recall [1:33:23] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** so we're going to continue to look into it if any monies are required we'll make sure that we can do so within a budget versus you know just throwing it out there and trying to make it work um this kind of brings about a secondary discussion to just we'll be at the end of june re-reviewing all department heads uh budget with them and you know take a look at everything it's it's tough with gas prices and the way everything's going i mean things are a little tight and we want to make sure we stay on top of it um times are tough everything's a little more expensive so not the time to just be throwing stuff in like this so we're just going to keep working on it and we'll have some updates after we do kind of a mid-year evaluation of where we're at and just keep working on it [1:34:07] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** at the time when he made this agreement how that was to be paid back or what the requirements are to me i understood it that in the way tim explained it that we would be demolishing the building and if we don't sell it which we haven't then the money isn't covered by the county yeah but when i read through this loan agreement if you guys have it i'm hearing a little bit different story and now i understand a little bit why we had an offer on the land and katie said no it has to be sold for 24 000. 25 000. so now i understand why she said that and of course the person didn't want to buy it for that dollar amount it's such a small lot it's not even a full lot so this was a little bit of a surprise and i think that county will work with us and allow us to budget for instead of coming out of our general fund because we do not have it as a budget either you need do you need any added information [1:36:07] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** water environment federation auto sampler package grant award [1:36:12] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** uh yes i just um wanted to okay so a couple was it two council meetings ago where we presented the opportunity for testing for our prosperous management plan yeah it wasn't that we decided to table until fall correct so we phil made the recommendation a couple months ago that we weren't going to have or we weren't going to act at this time i believe it was a twelve thousand dollar proposal for testing um that our engineers were throwing at us with our phosphorus management plan so in the background phil applied for this program in order to acquire an automatic sampler and we have um been granted we've awarded a grantful one so bill do you have a dollar value on that [1:37:04] **Phil Entner (City Superintendent):** yeah so the unit itself is i think about four thousand bucks and our rental fees for that program that we were gonna have to do would have been about eight to nine thousand just for two months to do this um we're still gonna have to pay sch a little money to take all the data that we collect and send in to analyze everything figure out where our spikes are figure out kind of what the problem is what we're thinking through the properties but we're we cut that number down by at least 8 000 bucks and we have a new piece of really cool equipment that i can use all of that so that's awesome [1:37:43] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** so this is informational right now and congratulations i'm just getting awarded to grassworth which is great today that saves us a job my name is we're all for it yeah can i say no no yes ma'am okay thanks thanks for coming yes well ask bill about the atv problem thank you phil [1:38:10] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** 7b minnesota department of health source water protection competitive grant award [1:38:16] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** yes so this is another grant that we applied for i know this has been mentioned previously this is another 4 500 grant that has been secured so all in all i believe we're 14 but we're about 14 5 the project is going to cost us about 19 to 20. so we have secured funding for 75 of our project so we're actually covering the expenses up here for this neighborhood revitalization we're coming out here keep it up yeah we'll just keep on going [1:38:57] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** thank you that's great news 7c brandon foundation grant [1:39:03] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** yes this is again something that was kind of shared with economic development authority and i just wanted to make the council aware we are looking for all opportunities that are available to get funding to start to spur development in area so this opportunity came up uh with the blandin foundation they are willing to um award grants in up to 150 000 so i did submit a letter of interest for 150 000 for uh um to be utilized for development up where the small area development plan has currently been established so the idea behind this would be the 150 000 would be utilized to start to move uh city infrastructure into the development to try and help spur um sales and and teacher development so there were a lot of submissions there were over 300 letters of interest for over more than 24 million dollars um long way to go but more or less just wanted to provide visibility to things that we're working on in the background uh just to try and continue to make progress you don't apply you don't get it [1:40:07] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** thank you i appreciate that eight committee and board meeting minutes uh moose lake area fire district we have none mostly cardboard recreation [1:40:20] **Ellissa Owens (City Administrator):** yeah so with our early meeting this month we're just kind of out of cycle so i will make sure that they're included in the next month's packet [1:40:29] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** moving on to nine announcements regular booths lake city council meeting wednesday july 13th 4 p.m right here moose lake economic development authority wednesday june 15 12 pm the city conference room blue slate water and light commission regular meeting tuesday june 21st month cam water and lake office moose lake housing redevelopment authority board monday june 13 11 am hillside manor office moose lake area fire district tuesday june 14th 6 30 gm emergency response center now the cardboard one that will be changed to 3 00 pm the next month 5 pm so it went from 6 30 up to 5. looks like hardcore meeting monday july 11th 5 p.m right here do you have a motion to adjourn so second oh in favor aye aye opposed motion carrying thanks everyone