>>> 2025 MEETING, IT IS 2:03. I'M SARAH NELSON, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA. >> PRESENT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. >> PRESENT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. >> PRESENT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER. >> PRESENT. >> EIGHT PRESENT. >>> COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE WILL SHARE COMMENTS ON THE PROCLAMATION THEN I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS THEN AFTER COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS, WE'LL SUSPEND THE RULES TO PRESENT THE PROCLAMATION TO OUR GUESTS AND ALLOW FOR GUESTS TO PROVIDE BRIEF EXCELLENTS THEMSELVES. WITH THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. >> I WANT TO EXTEND MY DEEP THANKS TO THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR PARTNERSHIP IN BRINGING FORWARD THIS PROCLAMATION, ADDITIONALLY I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR ADDING THEIR SIGNATURE ON THIS LEGISLATION YESTERDAY. BASIC RESOURCES LIKE SHELTER, MONEY OR AFFECTION. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT IS -- IT IS ABHORRENT THAT IT IS HAPPENING AT ALL AND THAT IT'S HAPPENING HERE IN SEATTLE. I'M PROUD TO HELP SURVIVORS IN NAVIGATING A PATH FORWARD. TODAY WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE WITH US NUMEROUS ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE DEEP EXPERIENCE IN WORKING WITH SURVIVORS AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED TIRELESS EFFORTS TO SUPPORT OUR SEATTLE NEIGHBORS IN HEALING FROM THIS TRAUMA. I'M HONORED TO PRESENTING ALL OF YOU WITH A SIGNED PROCLAMATION THAT JANUARY SHALL BE RECOGNIZED AS HUMAN TRAFFICKING PREVENTION MONTH. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? >> SEEING NONE, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WISH TO HAVE THE THEIR SIGNATURES, PARDON ME. IF NO OBJECTION THE COUNCIL RULES WILL BE SUSPENDED AND THE PROCLAMATION WILL BE PRESENTED. HEARING NO OPPOSITION. THE PROCLAMATION WILL NOW BE PRESENTED. >> THANK YOU. >>> HELLO, MY NAME IS JASMINE ODORO AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF REST. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF SEATTLE ON BEHALF OF REST. AND THE LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE DOING THIS WORK. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PRO PROCLAMATION IN RECOGNIZING THIS PROBLEM WITHIN OUR CITY AND COMMUNITY. I PRAY THAT AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS PARTNERSHIP AND AS IT CONTINUES THAT SEATTLE WILL CONTINUE TO LEAD THE WAY IN PRIORITIZING, MOBILIZING AND TARGETING EFFORTS. >>> COLLEAGUES AT THIS TIME WE WILL START THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THE COMMENT PERIOD. WE WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES EACH AND PLEASE BEGIN WITH THE IN PERSON SPEAKERS. >> SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE REGISTERED. WE'LL BEGIN WITH IN PERSON SPEAKERS AND FOLLOW WITH THE REMOTE SPEAKERS. SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN 10 SECONDS ARE LEFT ON THEIR TIME AND SPEAKERS MIC'S WILL BE MUTED IF THEY DON'T ENTER THEIR COMMENTS WITHIN THE ALLOTTED TIME TO ALLOW US TO CALL ON THE NEXT SPEAKER. >> THE FIRST SPEAKER IS CAROLINE, LANISHA AND TOLEDO. >> CAROLINE MALONE. I'M CAROLINE MALONE I LIVE AT CHANCERY PLACE APARTMENT 910MERRIAME STREET AND SO DOES THIS CRIMINAL COP WHO REFUSES TO LEAVE. AND BECAUSE I PROTEST HIS PRESENCE, HE'S CONCOCTED A SCHEME TO HAVE ME EVICTED. I MUST TWO TO COURT ON BEHALF OF CHANCERY PLACE APARTMENTS WHICH IS ILLEGAL. BECAUSE CHANCERY PLACE APARTMENTS IS MANAGED BY CATHOLIC COMMUNITY SERVICES. BUT THIS CRIMINAL COP, I DON'T KNOW HIS NAME, IT'S NOT GIVEN TO ME. BUT HE LIVES IN THE BUILDING AND BECAUSE I CONSTANTLY PROTEST HIS PRESENCE, HE'S CONCOCTED A SCHEME TO ACCUSE ME OF UNLAWFUL DETAINMENT. NOW, THESE ARE 10 PAYMENTS. RENTAL PAYMENTS MONEY ORDERS HE RETURNS TO ME EACH MONTH IN ORDER TO ACCUSE ME OF UNLAWFUL DETAINMENT. AND SO, THIS IS CRIMINAL. NO ONE WILL TAKE UP THE CAUSE. CITY COUNCIL WON'T LOOK INTO IT BECAUSE OF COURSE IT'S ONE OF THEIR BELOVED COPS BEHIND IT. BUT I INTEND TO GO TO COURT ON FEBRUARY 4th TO DEFEND MYSELF. BECAUSE 10 MONTHS EACH TIME I SUBMIT A RENTAL PAYMENT, IT'S SENT BACK TO ME IN ORDER TO CLAIM THAT I'M OCCUPYING PREMISES WITHOUT PAYING. THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES. I'M UNDER 24 HOUR SURVEILLANCE BECAUSE I PROTEST THIS THUG. OTHER COPS COME ON THE PREMISES. I EITHER SUBMIT OR ELSE GO ON MY WAY AND NOT SAY. AND SEATTLE FIREMEN ALSO ARE HARASS ME. >> THANK YOU. >> HI MY NAME IS LENISHA DAVIS. EARLIER TODAY THE COUNCIL MELT TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO MAKE SEATTLE SAFER FOR ALL OF US. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON FOR BEING THE FIRST ON THE COUNCIL TO CHAMPION THIS FIGHT. FOUR YEARS AGO IN YOUR RUN FOR OFFICE, YOU WERE THE LONE VOICE STANDING AGAINST CAUSE TO DEFUND OUR POLICE. YOU WERE STRONG IN YOUR STRENGTH INSPIRED OTHERS TO JOIN YOU. AND NOW, SEATTLE IS BLESSED WITH A COUNCIL THAT TRULY BELIEVES IN THE VALUE OF PUBLIC SAFETY. THIS IS A COUNCIL OF HEROS. RECENTLY JEALOUSY SHOWED ITSELF AGAIN AS THE DISTRICT 2 CANDIDATE RESIGNED. SHE DECIDED TO ATTACK MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL. IT WAS NOT APPROPRIATE AND HER WORDS ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY THE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT 2. DISTRICT 2 SUPPORTS WHAT THIS COUNCIL IS DOING AND YOU WILL SEE US STANDING WITH YOU WHEN YOU NEED US. AND DISTRICT TWO SUPPORTS THE APPOINTMENT OF BISHOP RAY ROGERS TO THE VACANT DISTRICT 2 SEAT. BISHOP ROGERS HAS LIVED IN DISTRICT 2 HIS ENTIRE LIFE. DISTRICT ROGERS IS RECOGNIZED AND RESPECTED BY ALL LEVELS OF SOCIETY. BISHOP ROGERS HAS STOOD BY YOU. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW, BISHOP PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW THAT HE HAS A SHIELD AT YOUR BACK PROTECTING YOU FROM PERSONAL ATTACKS HE HAS PUT HIS REPUTATION ON THE LINE BECAUSE HE BELIEVES IN YOUR VISION FOR SEATTLE. THIS WEEK HE WILL ASK YOU TO GIVE HIM THE SAME CHANCE THAT HE GAVE SOME OF YOU TO MAKE SEATTLE A BETTER PLACE FOR US ALL. HE BELIEVED IN YOU ENOUGH TO PLANT A FLAG. HE TOLD THOSE AROUND YOU THAT YOU DESERVE TO BE HEARD. >> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK YOU TO STOP TALKING. >>> NEXT WE HAVE DAVID TOLEDO FOLLOWED BY JOHN STROMSOND. >> HI THERE. I BROUGHT ONE OF THESE TODAY WHICH I DON'T NORMALLY HAVE. I USUALLY FREE STYLE IT. BUT SEVERAL WEEKS AGO I STOOD BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND AT THAT TIME I ASKED YOU TO CONSIDER APPOINTING TONYA WOO TO THE DISTRICT VACANT SEAT. I WANTED TO APOLOGIZE. MAYBE I WAS A LITTLE TOO ZELOUS IN SUPPORTING TONYA NOT KNOWING SHE WAS NOT INTERESTED IN THE POSITION. THE THING ABOUT ME IS I'M 100 PERCENTER. IF I SUPPORT YOU I'M GOING TO KEEP SUPPORTER YOU. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A STORY WITH YOU. ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO BEFORE I WAS REALLY INTO POLITICS I GOT TO KNOW MAYOR McGINN. HE WAS VERY OPEN TO SOME OF THE WORK READINESS PROGRAMS I WAS SUPPORTING. AND EVENTUALLY THE CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE SOME OF THEM. SO I WAS VERY MUCH A SUPPORTER OF McGINN. AND IN SOME CASES I FEEL LIKE THESE WERE REALLY LIFE CHANGING APPOINTMENTS. BUT A FEW YEARS LATER WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR REELECTION, McGINN WAS SERIOUSLY ATTACKED BY SOME OF THE LOCAL ARTS TABLOIDS. WHICH MADE ME KIND OF FURIOUS BECAUSE I COULD SEE THE GOOD WORKS HE WAS DOING. NOT ONE COMMISSIONER, MANAGER, NOR DIRECTOR STOOD UP FOR McGINN. NOT ONE PERSON IN A POSITION TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE SAID, LOOK AT WHAT MIKE HAS DONE FOR THE ARTS COMMUNITY. SO THAT REALLY BROKE MY HEART. I WANT TO ASK YOU IS THERE VALUE IN A FRIEND, AN ASSOCIATION OR LEADER THAT WILL STORM THE GATES WITH YOU. BEHIND THE SCENES SUPPORT IS GOOD BUT ISN'T THERE VALUE ON A FRIEND THAT PUTS THEIR REPUTATION ON THE LINE FOR YOU. THAT WILL SPEND THEIR STREET CAPABILITY OR POLITICAL CAPITAL TO PROTECT YOU BECAUSE THERE IS SUCH A PERSON AND HIS NAME IS BISHOP RAY ROGERS. THANK YOU. >> FOLLOWING JOHN WILL BE YVETTE. AFTER YVETTE WILL BE MONTE. >> ONE YEAR AGO, ONE YEAR AGO YESTERDAY THE PAY UP GIG WORKER BILL WENT INTO EFFECT INTO SEATTLE. MANY OF US SPOKE HERE TO THE COUNCIL TO TELL YOU IT WASN'T WORKING AS PLANNED. WASHINGTON WORKERS SAID IT WAS TOO SOON TO MAKE CONCLUSIONS. NOW WE HAVE ONE YEAR. EVERYTHING WE TOLD YOU HAS COME TO FRUITION. EVERYTHING THAT WORKING WASHINGTON HAS PROVEN FALSE. THE RESTAURANT DELIVERY MARKET IS DESTROYED. A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE DOING DELIVERY WERE JUST BARELY SURVIVES. ALL OF THOSE WORKERS ARE GONE. SO NOW MANY OF THOSE ARE LIKELY HOMELESS. SEATTLE HAS THE FASTEST GROWING HOMELESSNESS POPULATION IN THE COUNTRY AND THE PAY UP BILL IS CONTRIBUTING TO THAT. INCOME FROM DELIVERY IS CRITICAL FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE SHORT TERM UNEMPLOYMENT AND ENABLES THEM TO PAY RENT. NOW THEY HAVE NO SAFETY NET. WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM. WE WERE ALL MAKING A GOOD LIVING BEFORE WORKING WASHINGTON DECIDED TO MEDDLE IN A MARKET THAT WAS WORKING FOR ANYONE WILLING TO WORK HARD. I KNOW THE COUNCIL HAD GOOD INTENTIONS WITH THE PAY UP BILL. WORKING WASHINGTON MISLED YOU BECAUSE THEY WERE ARROGANT AND IGNORANT OF THE MARKET AND THE WAY IT ACTUALLY WORKS AND OF COURSE HAD AN AGENDA TO CREATE UNION WORKERS. THERE ARE SO MANY VULNERABLE WORKERS WHO CAN'T FUNCTION IN A FULL TIME JOB BECAUSE OF MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. DELIVERY WAS PERFECT FOR THEM TO SUBSIST ON THEIR OWN. THAT IS NOW GONE. PLEASE RECONSIDER THE REVISED BILL CB1272025. NOTHING IS WORSE THAN DOING NOTHING. PAY UP HAS HARMED SO MANY PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE THE AGENCY TO COME DOWN HERE AND ADVOCATE FOR THEMSELVES. YOUR JOB AS COUNCIL MEMBERS IS TO HELP CITIZENS, WORKERS AND BUSINESSES THAT PAY UP BILL HAS HARMED ALL THREE. THIS IS A FIXABLE PROBLEM BUT IT WON'T RESOLVE ITSELF. PLEASE HELP US. >> GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL MEMBERS, YVETTE DINERS. RECENTLY WHEN I SPOKE TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT GET CITY FUNDING. TODAY I WANT TO BRING ATTENTION TO TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT GET MONEY FROM THE CITY AND DO AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH FUNDING. THE FIRST ONE IS FARMLAND WETLAND. THE FARM TO PRESCHOOL PROGRAM THEY PROVIDE OVER 200 GOOD FOOD BAGS TO PRESCHOOLS IN THE AREA. IF FOR EXAMPLE THIS WEEK GOOD FOOD BAGS HAS ORGANIZED RAINBOW SWISS CHARD AND PEARS. I BROUGHT YOU SOME ORGANIC BEARS FROM OKANAGA COUNTY. AND THE NEAT THING ABOUT IT IS THE GOOD FOOD BAGS ARE FUNDED BY THE CITY WHICH I THINK IS PRETTY COOL. THE OTHER ORGANIZATION IS HOPE. AND THE MONEY THEY GOT FROM THE CITY WAS USED TO ORGANIZE A CHRISTMAS PARTY. EVERYTHING WAS FREE FROM THE FOOD, THE PICTURES OF BLACK SANTA, THE ACTIVITIES AND EACH AND EVERY ATTENDEE GOT A CHRISTMAS PRESENT. THANK YOU FOR THE FUNDING AND A SHOUT OUT TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO EXCELLENT WORK WITH THE MONEY THEY GET FROM THE CITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OH AND HERE ARE YOUR PEARS. THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS MONTE, FOLLOWING MONTE WILL BE MARYANNE. >>> HI, THANK YOU VERY MUCH CITY COUNCIL FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR OUR REMARKS. MY NAME IS MONTE ANDERSON I REPRESENT THE SEATTLE BUILDING TRADES. WE AT SEATTLE BUILDING TRADES HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE COMMUNITY AROUND HOUSING IN SOTO. I THINK A LOT OF YOU HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON IT. WE HAVE LETTERS. I JUST WANT TO COME HERE TO LET YOU ALL KNOW TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE SUPPORT YOU AND THE DECISIONS AROUND THE CITY. I THINK IT'S TIME TO LISTEN TO CITIZENS THAT WANT HOUSING AND NOT BE JUST KIND OF PUSHED AROUND ON SOME KIND OF IDEA OF THAT WE'RE NOT ACTING IN THE BEST INTEREST OF PEOPLE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING AND PUBLIC SAFETY. I COMMEND THE SPEAKERS BEFORE ME ABOUT TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND SARAH AND THE OTHERS WHO HAVE WORKED. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR MY WORKERS TO COME DOWNTOWN AND WORK. I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT WE SUPPORT YOU AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A HOLISTIC IDEA IN TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND HOUSING AND WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK. AND STICK TO THE FACTS HERE. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO A LONG WAYS WITH THIS. JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WE'RE DOWN HERE TO SUPPORT YOU. SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY, SUPPORT SOME HOUSING AND ALONG WITH IT PUBLIC SAFETY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>> HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M MARIANNA HIKE. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE PROFESSIONAL WORKERS. COUNCIL BILL 120-2133 TO THE ECONOMIC COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION. THIS ADDRESSES TWO OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES FOR SEATTLE. IF THIS MEASURE ISN'T ADVANCED WE MISS FACING AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS PUBLIC HOUSING AND PROVIDE EDUCATION FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AS SOMEONE WHO HAS SPENT 15 YEARS WITH THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM, PLAY A KEY ROLE IN THIS PLAN, OFFERING HANDS ON TRAINING. BY SUPPORTING APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS. IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY THAT OUR WORK FORCE GETS TO NOT ONLY GET TO WORK IN THE CITY BUT AFFORD TO WORK IN THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY LIVE IN. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID I WANT TO THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND HOPE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. THANKS. >>> NEXT WE HAVE JESSE CERVANTES FOLLOWING BILLY AND THEN GAIL. >>> GOOD AFTERNOON SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M JESSE CERVANTES. I'M WITH THE REGIONAL CARPENTERS. I SEE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING SHORTAGES THAT CONTINUE TO AFFECT OUR CITY. I'M URGING YOU TO PUSH TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. THIS PROPOSAL IS A CRITICAL STEP IN TACKLING HOUSING AND CREATING CAREERS THAT PEOPLE CAN RELY ON. THIS PROPOSAL ISN'T JUST ABOUT DEVELOPMENT IT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE SEATTLE HAS THE TOOLS IT NEEDS TO GROW BOTH ECONOMICALLY AND SOCIALLY. WE NEED TO INVEST IN OUR WORK FORCE, CREATE PATH WAYS TO REAL CAREERS AND ENSURE THAT THE GROWTH OF OUR CITY BENEFIT EVERYONE. I ASK YOU TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. >> WE HAVE BILLY. >>> AFTERNOON COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. AS I LISTENED TO COUNCIL MOORE BEFORE THE MEETING, I HOPE YOU ALL GOT TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH FAMILY. A GOOD TIME TO GET AWAY AND NOW WE'RE BACK AFTER. MY NAME IS BILLY WEATHER. TODAY SPEAKING TO COUNCIL BILL IRC. STAY THE COURSE OF THE PROPOSED REFERRAL AND MOVEMENT OF THIS DISTRICT PROPOSAL. RATHER THAN ANOTHER DELAY WHEN THE SUPPORT FOR MAKERS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA IS CRITICAL. THIS PROPOSAL HAS STRONG SUPPORT AND A BROAD BASE, DIVERSE AND GROWING COALITION AND STRONG SUPPORT FROM THE BROADER SEATTLE COMMUNITY. AS SHOWN IN THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT OVER TO EACH ONE OF YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO HAVE COMMENTS TODAY. THANK YOU. >> HOWARD GAIL AND THEN FOLLOWED BY ALEX ZIMMERMAN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, HOWARD GAIL DISTRICT 7. SO EARLIER TODAY, THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE LISTENED TO THE BILL ON CROWD CONTROL. THE NEW BILL. IT PASSED OUT OF THAT COMMITTEE WITH A DIVIDED VOTE. AGAIN I WANT TO RETURN TO THE FACTS WHICH SEEM TO BE IGNORED. IN 2021 THIS, NOT THIS COUNCIL BUT THE COUNCIL PASSED UNANIMOUSLY WITH TWO CONSERVATIVE MEMBERS THE ORIGINAL CROWD CONTROL LEGISLATION. AND, WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT HERE IS IF YOU LOOK AT THAT BILL, THE FLOW OF HOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IMPLEMENTED WAS A CITY ATTORNEY SUBMITTED IT TO THE COURT TO PUT THE COURT ON NOTICE. THE SPD THEN WITHIN 60 DAYS CREATED WAS SUPPOSED TO CREATE POLICIES TO COMPLY WITH THAT ORDNANCE AND THEN THE COURT WAS SUPPOSED TO APPROVE THOSE POLICIES. THAT ENTIRE PROCESS WAS SHORT CIRCUITED. AND THEN, HERE WE ARE FOUR YEARS LATER GOING BACK WITH 10 AMENDMENTS THAT ARE CONFUSING. STILL INADEQUACY TRYING TO ASSERT THE WILL OF THE COUNTY AND PEOPLE FROM FOUR YEARS AGO. THIS IS COMPLETELY ILLEGITIMATE. LET ME POINT OUT, KIND OF AN INDICATION OF HOW FAR REMOVED FROM REALITY AS COUNCIL IS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STILL PERMITTING POLICE TO THROW BLAST BALLS AND DEBATING WHETHER IT SHOULD BE UNDER HANDED, OVER UNDERRED, AT A PERSON, NOT AT A PERSON. AWAY FROM A CROWD. AGAIN I POINTED THIS OUT. 13-YEAR-OLD STUDY FROM UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN FLORIDA SHOWING THAT WITH THE MOST ACCURATE CONFINED CIRCUMSTANCE AND REPEATEDLY THROWING EXACTLY THE BLAST BALLS WE USE IN SEATTLE THEY BROKE INTO 73 FRAGMENTS. THE ACTUAL BLAST BALL ITSELF ENDED UP FROM A MINIMUM OF 2 FEET, FROM IT'S INTENDED TARGET TO 17 FEET. AGAIN THE WHOLE IDEA THAT BLAST BALLS CAN EVEN BE USED. THE ONLY REASON THEY EXIST AND THE ONLY REASON THE SPD WANTS THEM IS BECAUSE IT HELPS ESCAPE RESPONSIBILITY. THANK YOU. >> ALEX SERMAN FOLLOWING ALEX IS SARAH. >> KYLE, MY DIRTY NAZI. MY NAME IS ALEX SERMAN TRUMP SUPPORTER FOR 10 YEARS. FROM BEGINNING AND EACH MY ELECTION. YEAH. FOR 10 YEARS. I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL RIGHT NOW. ALL INTERNET RIGHT NOW TALKING ABOUT DEMOCRATS WHO ACTING LIKE A MOB, LIKE VANDETTA. I LIVE HERE 40 YEARS AND SPEAK IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS 2,000 TIMES. HERE. SEATTLE IS PROBABLY NUMBER ONE CITY IN AMERICA. PROBABLY DIFFERENT FROM 35,000 LETTERS WE HAVE. SO MY QUESTION RIGHT NOW TO YOU, AND I SPOKE TO YOU MANY TIMES BUT MY QUESTION RIGHT NOW ABOUT THIS 700,000 WHO LIVE, NEVER SUPPORT VERY SIMPLE POINT.10IN SEATTLE LIVE FREE LIKE SUPPOSED TO BE FROM DEFINITION. LIKE TRUMP ASKS FOR EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. AND MORE REPUBLICAN. I'M NOT REPUBLICAN, NO. SO MY PROPOSITION AND I TALK ABOUT YOU FOR MANY YEARS. 10 YEARS PROBABLY, OPEN BETTER ROOM IN CITY HALL, SO PEOPLE CAN GO AND SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES WITHOUT CONTROLLING OF COUNCIL MOB VANDETTA LIKE YOU. YOU'RE DOING THIS FOR MANY YEARS. THIS IS 7 UNDER PLUS THOUSAND, THEY'RE SCARED EVER SUPPORT THIS IDEA. THE MENTALITY LOOKS AT THEM LIKE A GERMAN NAZI DID THE GERMAN. YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS. PEOPLE SCARED. THEY'RE NORMAL PEOPLE. VIVA TRUMP, VIVA NEW AMERICA AND THE REVOLUTION. >> LAST PERSON SPEAKER IS SARAH. >> HELLO EVERYBODY. I JUST WANTED TO APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE. TRAFFIC WAS BAD BUT I STILL WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. ON BEHALF OF THE, I WANT TO EXTEND MY GRATITUDE TO THE CITY OF SEATTLE FOR THIS PROCLAMATION DURING HUMAN TRAFFICKING AWARENESS MONTH. AS A VICTIM OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND DIRECTOR OF SURVIVOR SERVICES THIS MEANS SO MUCH TO ME PERSONALLY AND TO OUR COMMUNITY COMMUNITY. SINCE WE BEGAN OUR WORK IN JULY, WE HAVE HAD THE HONOR OF SERVING 42 SURVIVORS. A NUMBER THAT CONTINUES TO GROW. I'M INCREDIBLY PROUD OF THE, WORK WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED ALONGSIDE THE CITY COUNCIL CREATING INTENTIONAL PATHS FOR SUPPORTING SURVIVORS AND HOLDING TRAFFICKERS AND BUYERS ACCOUNTABLE. THIS WORK IS NOT JUST TRANSFER MADE FOR MY COMMUNITY BUT IT IS ALSO DEEPLY HEALING FOR ME. I WAS TURNED OUT ON AURORA AND THIS WORK GIVES ME HOPE THAT THE PAIN I'VE ENDURED WAS NOT IN VAIN. I CANNOT USE MY EXPERIENCES TO UPLIFT AND HELP THE WOMAN I SERVE EVERY DAY. THE MORE WE LOVE IS COMMITTED TO THIS WORK. AND IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL. WE BELIEVE IN RADICAL, TRAUMA INFORMED AND INTENTIONAL CARE. AND RESOURCES AND WE ALL, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT AND FOR WHAT SURVIVORS DESERVE. TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE VOICES OF SURVIVORS AND SHOWING UP DAILY FOR THE MOST MARGINALIZED AND VULNERABLE PEOPLE. YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND DEDICATION INSPIRE ME AND THE MORE WE LOVE TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD. AND I JUST WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOU GUYS. >> WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO REMOTE SPEAKERS. A REMINDER TO OUR REMOTE SPEAKERS. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AFTER YOU HEAR THE MESSAGE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN UNMUTED. OUR FIRST REMOTE SPEAKER IS AMY HAGOPIAN FOLLOWED BY GEORGIA SLEETH. GO AHEAD AMY. >> HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME. >> YES. >> HELLO. THIS IS AMY HAGOPIAN I LIVE IN DISTRICT 3. I'M A PROFESSOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH AT THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON OUR SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL. I'M HERE TODAY TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE WORK THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH DID IN 2021 TO DOCUMENT THE PUBLIC HEALTH CONSEQUENCES OF THE 2020 FIRES IN SEATTLE. WE GATHERED THE COURT DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED ON THE LAWSUIT ON BEHALF OF PLAINTIFFS AND CATEGORIZED THE INJURIES CAUSED BY TYPE OF WEAPONS USED. I SENT YOU BOTH AN E-MAIL ABOUT THE WEBSITE FOR THIS. WHEN YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE YOU WILL SEE THE WEBINAR WE REPORTED OF OUR PUBLIC FORUM ON THE 2020 POLICE VIOLENCE. WITH PUBLIC HEALTH LAW SCHOOL AND SEVERAL EXPERTS. MY OWN GRANDCHILDREN CAME WITH ME TO THE VERY FIRST DOWNTOWN PROTEST AT THE END OF MAY IN 2020. AS SOON AS WE ARRIVED, THE FLASH ROUNDS WERE UNLEASHED. WITH CHILDREN CLEARLY PRESENT AND ONE OF THESE WAS HARMED SERIOUSLY. AS A RESIDENT OF THE CENTRAL DISTRICT, I LIVE JUST A FEW BLOCKS FROM THE EAST PRECINCT. I PARTICIPATED IN THE PROTEST WITH TEAR GAS AND WAS PUSHED AND SHOVED BY POLICE. A FORMER STUDENT WAS SERIOUSLY INJURED AND WAS AMONG THE PLAINTIFFS WHO SPLIT THE $10 MILLION SETTLEMENT THE CITY HAD TO PAY OUT TO END THE LAWSUIT. I ALSO HAVE TO REFER YOU TO THE PREVENTION JOURNAL JUST PUBLISHED LAST WEEK BY MY COLLEAGUES. PUBLIC HEALTH WOULD NOT BE SERVED BY ALLOWING SEATTLE POLICE TO USE WEAPONS THAT INJURED SO SEVERELY PEOPLE IN 2020. >> THANK YOU AMY. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS GEORGIA SLEETH. FOLLOWING WILL BE JUDY ACALADES. GO AHEAD GEORGIA. GEORGIA YOU MAY NEED TO PRESS STAR 6. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY. >> YEAH. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS DR. GEORGIA SLEETH AND I'M A PHYSICIAN ON INJURY PREVENTION IN SEATTLE. AND I'M ALSO CALLING IN REGARDING COUNCIL BILL 12519 THAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER THIS MORNING. I AM CALLING TO REINFORCE. EARLIER THIS MONTH MY RESEARCH TEAM AND I PUBLISHED A STUDY ON INJURY ON CAPITOL HILL. IN THE JOURNEY OF INJURY PREVENTION. THEY FOUND THAT NEARLY ONE IN FOUR PATIENTS WHO PRESENTED TO THE HOSPITAL HAD INJURY LEADING TO SUFFERING. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THOSE WHO TREATED THEIR INJURIES AT HOME. MY REVIEW OF THE GROWING LITERATURE ON LESS LETHAL WEAPONS LIKE IRRITANTS SHOW THAT THEY CAN LEAD TO ACUTE INJURY. AS PHYSICIANS WE SEE HOW THESE INJURIES AND CHEMICAL EXPOSURE CAN EXACERBATE UNDER GOING MEDICAL CONDITIONS. BASED ON THESE STUDIES AND RECENT HISTORY, I HEAR THAT REINSTATING LESS LETHAL WEAPONS WOULD BE A DETRIMENT ON HEALTH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JUDY ALCAVEDAS. GO AHEAD JUDY. >> HI MY NAME IS JUDY ALCALEDAS, I LIVE IN D4. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING. I APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW IT'S A LOT. I WANT TO BRING US BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY. WHEN MEDIA OUTLETS ACROSS SUFFERED THE DEATH OF J61. J61 IS SADLY ANOTHER CANARY IN THE COAL MINE. I URGE YOU TO FOLLOW THE FEDERAL NOA SOUTHERN KILLER WHALE. AS YOU ADD DENSITY IN THE ONE SEATTLE PLAN. POOR CHOICES SUCH AS SPRAWL AND INCREASED HARD SCAPE WILL INCREASE POLLUTION WITH NO SPACE FOR THE FILTRATION BENEFITS OF TREES ANY WHERE. WE NEED LOT DENSITY, STACKED PLATS AND SHARED WALLS. PLEASE LOOK AT OTHER CITIES. PLEASE LOOK AT PORTLAND, SHARED WALLS AND SPECK PLATS HAVE EXISTED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF HOUSING. IT'S OKAY, AND PLEASE I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH WITH THE ONE SEATTLE PLAN. DON'T FROM PRESSURED TO APPROVE THE ONE SEATTLE PLAN WITHOUT CHANGES. PLEASE DO REAL RESEARCH ON DENSITY AND URBAN NATURE. AND HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO, TO HAVE OUR SEATTLE, OUR SEATTLE ECOSYSTEM. IT REALLY IS IN YOUR HANDS. THESE ARE BIG CHANGES. THEY ARE IN YOUR HANDS AND WE CAN DO SO MUCH BETTER WITH DENSITY. PLEASE DO RESEARCH AND I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, BUY. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ALBERTO ALVAREZ. GO AHEAD ALBERTO. >> FIRST OFF, DRIVERS ARE PAINTING RENT AND COVERING GAS EXPENSES IS MANAGEABLE, NO? WE PULL THE WEIGHT OF ORDERS ACROSS THIS ENTIRE CITY. FROM BALLARD TO CHINA TOWN. FROM CHINA TOWN TO SOUTH RAINIER, FROM LAKE CITY TO QUEEN ANNE AND QUEEN ANNE FROM WEST SEATTLE. WE CONNECT ALL CUSTOMERS IN THE CITY ACROSS ALL NEIGHBORHOODS AND SMALL BUSINESSES. WE ARE THERE 24 HOURS A DAY, 7 DAYS A WEEK, THROUGH THE COLDEST WINTERS, THROUGH THE POWER OUTAGES AND NOW THE RETURN TO OFFICE TRAFFIC. WE ARE MOTIVATED AND HARD WORKING. AND ALWAYS READY TO DEFEND OUR RIGHTS AND WAGES. SECOND POINT, KETTLE AND NELSON BOTH A DISAPPOINTMENT ON THIS COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA, PLEASE IMPROVE YOUR STANCE WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC HARM CAUSED BY POLICE OVERREACTION. AT A TIME WHEN THE LGBTQ AND IMMIGRANT FAMILIES WILL FACE HARDSHIPS THAT KETTLE AND NELSON ARE BLIND AND WILLFULLY IGNORANT TO. PRACTICAL AND MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AMENDMENTS SUBMITTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE AND COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK WERE VOTED DOWN. KETTLE AND MOORE ARE NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE REAL DANGEROUS AFFECTS THEIR DECISIONS ON THIS COUNCIL WILL HAVE, SIDE NOTE, NELSON YOUR POWER GRAB OF MAKING EVERY PRIORITY AND ISSUE EXCLUSIVE TO YOUR OWN ECONOMY IS ON THE NOTICE. THE SOONER YOU ARE VOTED OUT, THE BETTER. THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. >> OUR LAST SPEAKER IS DAVID HAYNES. GO AHEAD DAVID AND PLEASE REMEMBER TO PRESS, OH YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT DAVID HAYNES. STOP THE SEXPLOITATION OF STATION 2. BEGAN PREDATORRIZING. YOU WILL TEAR DOWN THOSE SLUM HOTELS THAT WERE USED FOR IT AND HAVE THE GOVERNOR DEPLOY ARMY CORP. OF ENGINEERS TO BILL THE FOUNDATION AND THE NATIONAL GUARD LABOR TO BUILD A ROBUST HOUSING FOR SHELTER. MAKESHIFT LIKE DRUG TREATMENT AND LIKE LOW SECURITY FACILITIES. INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT IT FOR ANOTHER YEAR AND DOING NOTHING, OTHER THAN ANOTHER PROCLAMATION TO MESSAGE THE SIGNALING. ALL WHILE WAITING ON AND HAVING TO CANCEL BECAUSE THE OFFICE OF HOUSING IS SOME WHAT RACIST AND NOT EXACTLY QUALIFIED AND TRUSTWORTHY ENOUGH. AND, THE VICE CHAIR OF THE LAND USE COMMITTEE WHO DOESN'T REALLY TAKE, WHY DO YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE COMP PLAN. AND WHY IS IT THAT THE BUDGET CHAIR WHO HELPED PASS ALL THESE INSTEAD OF SHIFTING THE PARADIGM CREATING ON THESE ALREADY GOT EXACERBATED THROUGH THE PUBLIC SAFETY, HOMELESS CRISIS. WHY DOES HE GET TO CANCEL ANOTHER COMMITTEE MEETINGS AS IF THERE'S MORE IMPORTANT BUSINESS DO OUTSIDE OF SEATTLE. AS IF, CITY HALL IS GOING VIOLENT TOWARD PROTESTERS AS THEY FAVOR THE COPS AND FASCISTS AFTER FOUR DIRECTIVES TO START THROWING BLAST BALLS AWAY FROM PEOPLE CAUSING TROUBLE AND LURE INNOCENT PEOPLE FROM THE SIDE AS IF THEY CARE SO MUCH THEY WIND UP HITTING THE WRONG PEOPLE. WHY ARE YOU PURPOSEFULLY ALLOWING THE SAME ILL TRAINED COPS TO EXEMPT LOW LEVEL DRUG DEALERS FROM AIR. WHY DO YOU KEEP ALLOWING OPEN AIR DRUG MARKETS. >> THAT WAS OUR LAST REMOTE SPEAKER. >> OKAY, WE'VE REACHED THE END OF OUR ALLOTTED TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR TODAY. THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW CLOSED. WE'LL NOW MOVE ON. I MOVE TO ADOPT THE INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL CALENDAR. IS THERE A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO THE REFERRAL CALENDAR. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >> GO AHEAD. >> I MOVE THE ITEM 2 ON THE FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE TO THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. >> SECOND. >> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO AMEND THE INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL CALENDAR BY CHANGING THE REFERRAL OF THE COUNCIL BY 120933 FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE TO THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. GO AHEAD YOU MAY SPEAK TO YOUR REQUEST. >> THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE YESTERDAY I WAS NOT AS COMPOSED AS I WOULD LIKE TO BE. I WAS SIMPLY JUST CAUGHT OFF GUARD AND A BIT SURPRISED. I'M RAISING THIS AMENDMENT TODAY NOT TO CRITIQUE THE SUBSTANCE OF THE BILL BUT TO PROTECT THE COUNCIL'S PROCESS. AND THIS AMENDMENT DOES KEEP THE BILL MOVING. I WON'T TAKE UP THE CONTENTS OF THE BILL TODAY BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS ISSUE DESERVES ITS TIME IN COUNCIL. THE SPONSOR DESERVES THE TIME AND COMMITTEE TO PUT THEIR PROPOSAL FORWARD AND TO HAVE A ROBUST CONVERSATION. ABOUT THE PROPOSED POLICY. SORRY. MY COMMENTS TODAY ARE STRICTLY FOCUSED ON THE PROCESS. WE HAVE TWO COMMITTEES THAT DEAL WITH LAND USE ISSUES LIKE THE ONE DETAILED IN THE, THIS BILL IS ABOUT. WE HAVE THE LAND USE COMMITTEE AND THE SELECT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE. IT'S CLEAR THIS LEGISLATION SHOULD BE GOING TO ONE OF THEM. YESTERDAY WHEN WAS CAUGHT OFF GUARD AND SURPRISED AND WHEN I'M LOOKING AT OUR CALENDAR, THE LAND USE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN REPLACED BY THE SELECT COMPREHENSIVE LAND COMMITTEE ON MOST OF ITS STANDING PLAN. THAT'S WHY I CHOSE THE LAND COMMITTEE TO KEEP THE BILL MOVING RATHER THAN TO DELAY IT. MY POSITION IS ON WHO IS ON THE COMMITTEE. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S ON THE COUNCIL'S BEST INTEREST TO VIOLATE THAT AGREEMENT. PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES, HOUSING ISSUES BELONG TO HOUSING AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE, TRANSPORTATION ISSUES BELONG IN THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. AND THIS IS CLEARLY A LAND USE ISSUE. THIS CLEARLY SHOULD GO TO ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEES. WHEN WE CIRCUMVENT OUR COMMITTEE, IT'S NOT GOOD FOR OUR PROCESS. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR OUR DISCOURSE, IT'S BAD FOR OUR INSTITUTION AND PART OF HOW I WAS CAUGHT OFF GUARD YESTERDAY IS THE RIC WAS NOT PUBLISHED UNTIL NEARLY THE END OF OUR COUNCIL BRIEFING MEETING. I WAS JUST CAUGHT OUT OF GUARD. FOR THAT REASON, I AM MOVING TO AMEND THE REFERRAL CALENDAR OF THIS LEGISLATION FROM THE GOVERNANCE TO THE SELECT COMMITTEE. A COMMITTEE THAT EVERYONE SITS ON. A COMMITTEE THAT IS DESIGNED TO HAVE OVERSIGHT ON THE ISSUES RAISED ON THE LEGISLATION AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LEGISLATION HAS ITS DAY IN COMMITTEE. AND HAS A ROBUST POLICY CONVERSATIONS. THANK YOU. >> COLLEAGUES I ASK THAT YOU, THAT YOU OPPOSE THE REQUEST, THE MOVEMENT TO MOVE THE LEGISLATION TO THE LAND USE COMMITTEE OR THE SELECT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE, BECAUSE THIS IS I REFERRED THIS TO THE GOVERNANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE BECAUSE THIS IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BILL WITH A LAND USE ELEMENT. I WAS MOTIVATED BY THIS, THIS LEGISLATION WHICH I HAVE BEEN AWARE OF AND IN SUPPORT OF FOR OVER A YEAR. I MET IT DURING THE DISCUSSIONS OF THE INDUSTRIAL LANDS LEGISLATION AND MONTE OF THE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL WAS WALKED THE HALL IN 2023 AND WALKED THE HALL LAST YEAR AS WELL. TALKING TO COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT THE BENEFITS HERE. THERE IS A LAND USE ELEMENT BUT WHAT IS AS I SAID MOTIVATING ME IS THE FACT THAT, SMALL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES NEED MORE SPACE IN SEATTLE. AND IF YOU, IF THIS IS, LAST YEAR I WAS IN CONVERSATION WITH ANDREA PORTER WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SEATTLE MADE AND LEARNED THAT 2 TO 3 MAKERS ARE LEAVING SEATTLE EVERY MONTH OR SO. BECAUSE SEATTLE IS VERY EXPENSIVE AND THERE ARE SOME USE AND RESTRICTIONS FOR CERTAIN BUSINESSES. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MAKERS BUSINESSES I'M TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING FROM A COFFEE ROASTER TO A ROBOT MANUFACTURER. PLACES WHERE THINGS ARE MADE AND SOLD. THOSE SPACES ARE HARD TO FIND. THAT'S WHY I'M INTERESTED IN THIS LEGISLATION AND THE WAY TO HAVE THOSE, THOSE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE SPACES IS REALLY ONLY FEASIBLE IF THERE'S SOMETHING ON TOP. BECAUSE NOBODY IS GOING TO GO OUT AND BUILD A SMALL AFFORDABLE COMMERCIAL SPACE FOR THAT KIND OF USE. AND SO, THERE IS A LAND USE COMPONENT BECAUSE THIS LEGISLATION WOULD ALLOW HOUSING IN THE STADIUM DISTRICT IN THE UI ZONE WHICH THEN INTRODUCES ANOTHER BENEFIT WHICH DOES REQUIRE THAT THE HOUSING IN THAT ZONE BE AFFORDABLE OR WORK FORCE HAS IT FROM 60 TO 90% AMI. S THAT IS WHY WE RECEIVED A LETTER WITH A LOT OF PRETTY L OGOS AND BROAD COALITION SUPPORT. I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO THE BENEFITS OF THE LEGISLATION EITHER. BECAUSE IT IS A LAND USE LEGISLATION SO THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF TIME TO GO THROUGH ALL THE MULTIPLE BENEFITS THAT OF THIS LEGISLATION. HOWEVER, THE FACT REMAINS THAT, THAT THE FACT, THE ALLOWANCE OF HOUSING DOES THEN DEGENERATE SUPPORT FROM OUR HOUSING PROVIDERS AND THE FACT THAT THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAS LONG BEEN A PLACE WHERE THERE'S SOME SERIOUS PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES. THAT IS ALSO WHY THE NEIGHBORHOODS ADJACENT TO THIS AREA SIGNED IN SUPPORT OF THIS LEGISLATION. I'M SPEAKING IN, SPECIFICALLY TOWARD THE PIONEER SQUARE AREA AND THE CHINA TOWN INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT. SO THEY SIGNED ON. SO BUT IT COMES BACK DOWN TO FOR ME, THE FACT THAT IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO FIND A PLACE WHERE LIGHT MANUFACTURING BUSINESSES CAN MAKE THEIR PRODUCTS AND THEN SELL THEM. AND SO, THAT IS THE ULTIMATE REASON WHY I, THIS IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LEGISLATION AND WHY IT WAS REFERRED TO MY COMMITTEE. NOW THE FACT REMAINS YOU MADE A GOOD POINT COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS THAT WE ALL HAVE COMMITTEES AND WE'RE ALL SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH CERTAIN LEGISLATIONS. IT'S SOMETIMES VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY THIS IS ONLY LAND USE OR ONLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR ONLY PARKS ETC. THAT IS WHY THERE'S TIME FOR THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT TO REVIEW THE LEGISLATION IN COUNCILLATION WITH CENTRAL STAFF. THERE'S CONVERSATION WHERE IT SHOULD GO, WHICH COMMITTEE, ETC. SO THINGS ARE NOT ALWAYS CUT AND DRY. BECAUSE LEGISLATION CAN SOMETIMES, IT MAKES SENSE TO, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO PUT A PIECE OF LEGISLATION IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT COMMITTEES. LAST IN 2002 I BELIEVE IT WAS FOR EXAMPLE. THERE WAS LEGISLATION THAT WAS, THAT WAS REFERRED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AND HUMAN SERVICES BUT BECAUSE THAT WAS LEGISLATION THAT THE, THAT THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE WAS INTERESTED IN HAVING. SO THESE, THE REFERRAL TO A PARTICULAR COMMITTEE IS FLEXIBLE AND SO, I AS PRESIDENT TOOK THE PREROGATIVE TO PUT IT IN MY COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT WAS POSSIBLE TO BRING IT TO, TO MY COLLEAGUES AND ALSO TO FULL COUNCIL SOONER THAN IT COULD POSSIBLY IN THE SELECT LAND USE COMMITTEE. THE SELECT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE IS YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WE ONLY HAVE DATES THROUGH FEBRUARY 5th. AND THAT IS BECAUSE SOME OF THE NUANCES OF THE LEGISLATION THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING BEFORE US AND ALSO THE FACT THAT THERE'S SOME TYING UP ON LOSE ENDS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE ON THE EIS. AND SO IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR WHEN THE, WHEN THE VOTES COULD HAPPEN ON THIS LEGISLATION OR OTHER LEGISLATION THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NEXUS. AND SO, AGAIN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SMALL BUSINESSES THAT NEED SPACE TO THRIVE AND GROW. AND THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT SIGNED ON IN SUPPORT OF THIS LEGISLATION IN 2023 ARE STILL REALLY INTERESTED IN HAVING THIS BILL GO FORWARD. THERE ALSO IS OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE, BASED ON PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE IS A STRONG LABOR COMPONENT HERE, WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO ALL OF THE BENEFITS FOR THIS, BUT THIS HAS BEEN A VISION TO HAVE A VERY, VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF HOUSING IN THE STADIUM DISTRICT FOR A VERY LONG TIME. IT WAS PART OF THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE THAT ACCOMPANIED THE 2023 INDUSTRIAL LANDS LEGISLATION AND SO, IT'S TAKING A LONG TIME AND, IT WOULD BE AND WHO KNOWS WHEN IT WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BEFORE FOR A VOTE IF IT WERE TO GO TO THE SELECT COMP PLAN COMMITTEE. AND SO, I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO ALLOW IT TO STAY IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. AND IT WILL PROBABLY BE BEFORE US I BELIEVE THAT THE SECOND COMMITTEE VOTE WILL, THE SECOND COMMITTEE DISCUSSION WILL BE IN EARLY OR LATE FEBRUARY IN OR EARLY MARCH, AND EVERYBODY WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO READ AND UNDERSTAND THE MANY BENEFITS OF WHAT IS CONTAINED IN THE LEGISLATION. IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING MORE SPACE FOR SMALL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALSO CALLED MAKERS BUSINESSES. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >> YES. I AM LOOKING AT MY SCREEN. COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE AS THE VICE CHAIR OF THE GOVERNANCE ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE AND ASK FOR MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION TO MOVE IT TO THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I'VE OFTEN SAID HOW IMPORTANT THE COMMITTEE WORK IS IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. BUT IT GOES BEYOND THAT AND I BELIEVE THE, THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH IS INHERENTING THE LAND USE MISSION IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO GO. AND FOR ONE, ALL NINE OF US WILL BE THERE. AND I BELIEVE FROM A GOVERNANCE PERSPECTIVE THAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS TOPIC AND THIS ISSUE. I WOULD ALSO SAY, AS THE DIRECTOR, AS THE CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, THERE'S SO MANY FACTORS THAT GO INTO PUBLIC SAFETY. I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS LEGISLATION IS A PUBLIC SAFETY PIECE OF LEGISLATION. SEPARATELY, I HAVE THREE MAIN PRIORITIES STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. FIRST IS PUBLIC SAFETY. AS YOU KNOW IN 2024 WE PASSED 11 MAJOR BILLS ON PUBLIC SAFETY. AND WE'RE PRESSING ON THAT. AND ALL THE OTHER PIECES THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN 25. SECOND FOR ME IS I SAY THE PORT. IT'S REALLY THE MARITIME INDUSTRIAL ECONOMY AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A VIABLE PORT 100 YEARS FROM NOW. THAT IS SO KEY. BECAUSE AT ONE POINT WE HAD RESOURCES, TIMBER. NEXT THING WE'RE SUPPORTING PEOPLE GOING TO ALASKA. AT ONE POINT IT WAS AIRPLANES. AEROSPACE. NOW IT'S TECH. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR ECONOMY IS GOING TO BE IN 100 YEARS FROM NOW. SO IT'S KEY TO ENSURE THE VIABILITY OF THE PORT. AND BY THE WAY IT'S NOT ONLY THE PORT OF SEATTLE. IT'S THE PORT OF SEATTLE. KING COUNTY, WASHINGTON STATE. I OFTEN SAY IT'S NOT JUST FOR SEATTLE FOR THE NEAR EAST. BELLEVUE, THE TRI CITIES AND SPOKANE. WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AS A CITY NOT TO LOOK OUT JUST FOR OURSELVES, BUT FOR THE REGION. FOR THE STATE AND REALLY FOR A LARGE PORTION OF THE UNITED STATES. AND I RECOGNIZE OUR LABOR BROTHERS ARE HERE AND I SUPPORT THEM IN SO MANY WAYS BUT I ALSO SAY WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK FOR THE LABORERS WHO SPEAK THE AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS. IN THE MIDDLE -F EAST OF WASHINGTON STATE. WHO'S GOING TO SUPPORT THE LABOR IN MOSES LAKE THAT'S LOOKING TO EXPORT SOME TYPE OF PRODUCT. I'VE MET SOME OF THESE PEOPLE AT THE PORT. MY CALL IS, WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THIS AND I BELIEVE THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. AGAIN COLLEAGUES I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS MOTION. THANK YOU. >>> I JUST WANT TO RESPOND. I SEE THERE ARE OTHER HANDS UP AND I WILL CALL ON YOU ALSO. BUT I WANT TO RESPOND. IF I SAID THAT THIS WAS A PUBLIC SAFETY, A PIECE OF PUBLIC SAFETY LEGISLATION THAT IS NOT, THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION. I WAS INTENDING THAT IT HAD PUBLIC SAFETY BENEFITS. BY PROVIDING MORE LIFE ON THE STREET ETC. COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA. THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I'M COMPELLED BY THE FACT THAT THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION HAS A LOT OF COMPONENTS AS WE'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF YOU ALL TODAY. IT'S GOT HOUSING IMPLICATIONS, OBVIOUSLY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PIECE WHICH IS WHY COUNCIL PRESIDENT YOU PROFFERED IT. IT HAS THE LAND USE PIECE OBVIOUSLY AND TRANSPORTATION. I DO BELIEVE IT HAS A PUBLIC SAFETY PIECE. NOT AS IN MAIN. BUT IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT IN THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE CITY. I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE SINCE IT TOUCHES ON SO MANY THINGS TO BRING IT THROUGH COUNCIL PRESIDENT'S COMMITTEE. AND WE WILL ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT. AND LEARN MORE ABOUT IT AND VOTE ON IT IN THAT COMMITTEE. AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS. I'M FINE LETTING THIS LEGISLATION SIT IN COUNCIL PRESIDENT'S COMMITTEE, THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA. >> THANK YOU MA'AM COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND FOR STARTERS AND FOR CLARITY, YOU KNOW AT THIS VERY EARLY STAGE I'M NOT AT ALL TAKING A POSITION ON THE MERITS OF THE UNDERLYING ISSUES, ANY OF THEM INVOLVED IN THIS PROPOSED PIECE OF LEGISLATION. I THINK THE QUESTION BEFORE US IS MORE OF A PROCEDURAL ONE. I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL PRESIDENT FOR PROPOSING THIS. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS FOR HELPING US THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THE CURRENT PATH. WE SHOULD ALWAYS CHALLENGE YOU KNOW, CHALLENGE ASSUMPTIONS AND CHALLENGE EACH OTHER TO BE BETTER. AND HAVE THESE, AND HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND SO, SO FOR ME, I'M PERSUADED BY ELEMENTS OF ALL, EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD SO FAR. FOR ME TIMING TURNS OUT TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING OF THIS ALL. I GENERALLY AGREE THAT, THIS I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD EVER BE BEHOLDEN TO, ONE COMMITTEE VERSUS THE OTHER. LIKE THAT'S TOO RIGID AND IT ERODES ANY ROOM WHATSOEVER FOR FLEXIBILITY AND WE NEED TO MOVE FAST AND URGENTLY AND GO, GO, GO. SOMETIMES THAT MEANS WE RUFFLE SOME FEATHERS. ANY WAY. SO, BUT I GENERALLY AGREE THAT, ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL. THE TOPIC AND FOCUS AND THRUST OF THIS BILL IS BETTER SUITED FOR THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON THE COMP PLAN. AS A GENERAL PROPOSITION. MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT IS, MY ONLY POTENTIAL CONCERN FOR THAT IS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S TIME. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S TIME FOR US TO ADEQUATELY AND THOUGHTFULLY GIVE THIS THE TIME, ATTENTION AND CONSIDERATION INCLUDING ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT THIS DESERVES. I HAD A REALLY PRODUCTIVE MEETING WITH THE SELECT COMMITTEE CHAIR. CHAIR HOLLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU FOR BEING PROACTIVE AND REACHING OUT TO ALL OF US INDIVIDUALLY. I HEARD A LOT OF EXCELLENT THINGS AND A LOT OF THOUGHT BEING PUT INTO THIS WHOLE PROCESS. AND YOU KNOW, MY IMPRESSION IS WE ARE UNDER VERY TIGHT TIME LINE IN TRYING TO SQUEEZE, SHOE HORN THIS AND TO, AND TO THAT. AND TO A THREE PHASE COMP PLAN PROCESS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS WOULD GO AND IF WE COULD POTENTIALLY ACCOMMODATE IT. LIKE I GENERALLY AGREE ON THE ONE HAND THAT THAT WOULD BE A BETTER BODY. BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW IN THE ABSENCE OF POTENTIALLY LAND USE COMMITTEE, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S TIME TO DO IT. AND I ALSO STRONGLY SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT AUTHORS PREROGATIVE TO PROPOSE LEGISLATION AT ANY TIME THEY SEE FIT. EVEN IF I STRONGLY DISAGREE. WHY? BECAUSE THEY ARE DIRECTLY ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE IMPACT AND RESULT AND THAT MIGHT MEAN, BECAUSE THERE'S ANY NUMBER OF THINGS THAT GO INTO AND FACTOR INTO, OUR TIMING FOR LAUNCHING A PARTICULAR STRATEGIC INITIATIVE OR NOT AND WHEN AND HOW TO DO IT. IT'S NOT JUST, LIKE YOU JUST SIT BEHIND THE SCENES AND COOK UP A POLICY AND YOU'RE GOING TO LAUNCH IT AND IT WILL PREVAIL ON THE MERITS. IT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS. SO I AM STRONGLY TO THE AMENDMENTS AND AUTHORS ON THEIR PREFERRED TIMING. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT MIGHT MEAN WE RUFFLE SOME FEATHERS OF OUR COLLEAGUES. IT MIGHT MEAN DIFFERENT PEOPLE THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THE BEST TIMING. THE OPTIMAL TIMING FOR THAT. AND IT MIGHT MEAN WE POTENTIALLY LOSE SUPPORT FOR OUR EFFORT. WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING. COUNCIL PRESIDENT THIS IS CLEARLY ONE OF YOURS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT REASON I'M DIFFERENTIAL, UNDERSTANDING THAT DISRUPT SOME HARMONY HERE. FOR THOSE REASONS I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING KEEPING THE CURRENT PATH. HAD WE HAD THE CURRENT SHARE OR EXCUSE ME HAD WE HAD THE CHAIR OF THE LAND USE COMMITTEE, HERE I WOULD ASK THEIR POSITION ON THIS BUT THAT IS OBVIOUSLY A VACANT ROLE AT THIS POINT. SO, YOU KNOW HOPEFULLY WE'LL CLOSE THE LOOP HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. BUT, BECAUSE THEIR POSITION WOULD BE, ANOTHER DATA POINT NOT NECESSARILY A DISPOSITIVE ONE BUT A DATA POINT AT LEAST FOR MY PERSONALLY CONSIDERATION. THAT SAID, ALL THIS GOT SPRUNG UP VERY QUICKLY. I WAS WITH MANY OF YOU ALL IN A FOUR PLUS HOUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING THEN GOT OUT OF THAT. AND YOU KNOW BACK TO BACK TO THIS. AND IN BETWEEN TIME HAD SOME VERY BRIEF CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME FOLKS INCLUDING A HANDFUL OF FOLKS IN LABOR AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, JUST AGAIN, ALL CAME QUICKLY. AS I UNDERSTAND IT SO FOLKS IN THE BUILDING TRADES HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE PAST CHAIR. COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES ON THE LAND USE. WHO SEEMS TO THINK THE CURRENT PATH IS THE BEST ONE. THAT'S THE CRAZY OF THE TELEPHONE GAME. BUT IF TRUE IT IS A NICE CHERRY ON TOP. STILL I DO AGREE AND THANK, AND THEY ARE ACCOUNTABLE. I'M STRONGLY DIFFERNTIAL TO THE LEGISLATIVE AUTHOR ON THEIR PREFERRED TIMING AND IF THIS IS, AND WE CAN'T GUARANTEE A RESPECT OF THAT TIMING AT THE SELECT COMMITTEE LEVEL. FOR THAT REASON I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THE CURRENT PATH, THANK YOU. >> WOW I DON'T THINK THE IRC HAS EVER HAD THIS KIND OF CONVERSATION. COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. >> SO I WANT TO SPEAK TO AGAIN THE MATTER OF PROCESS AS OPPOSED TO POLICY. BECAUSE I DO THINK EVEN JUST THE DISCUSSION HERE TODAY REALLY SPEAKS TO THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE POLICY MATTER AT HAND. BUT I DO WANT TO CIRCLE TO PROCESS. BECAUSE WE ESTABLISH AND FORM THESE COMMITTEES FOR A REASON. WE TAKE THESE ON AS OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AND WE SPEND THE EXTRA TIME TO WORK ALONGSIDE THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENTS AND GO THROUGH EXTRA TRAININGS. AND I WILL SPEAK WITH THE HEAD OF BEING SOMEONE WHO IS A MEMBER OF THE LAND USE COMMITTEE. AND GOING THROUGH THE ADDITIONAL EXTRA TRAININGS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THINGS LIKE QUASI JUDICIAL DECISION MAKING. I KNOW IN THAT ROLE AND BEING PART OF THE LAND USE COMMITTEE I TAKE IT AS A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY TO BE THINKING ABOUT LAND USE. NOW, THIS IS A PARTICULARLY SPECIAL YEAR BECAUSE ALL OF US ARE CONSIDERING LAND USE AS A PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BUFF BUT WHEN I THINK TO AND LOOK TO OTHER REPRESENTATIVE AREAS I KNOW AND SEEN THIS REPORT ON COUNCIL WHERE WE TRY TO LOOK AT COUNCIL MEMBER MATTERS. I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA I'VE GONE TO YOU ON THE ROLE OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. WORKING ALONGSIDE EACH OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE IN DIFFERENCE TO THEIR ROLE. AND SO, I WOULD SAY, I WORRY ABOUT ESPECIALLY GIVEN THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION AND THE SPECIFICS AROUND THINGS LIKE LAND USE. AS I UNDERSTAND THIS LEGISLATION, IT IS A ZONING CHANGE WHICH IS PRETTY SQUARELY A LAND USE ACTION. I JUST HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT SETTING A PRECEDENCE HERE ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S SUCH A CLEAR LINE AROUND WHAT THIS LEGISLATION WOULD DO. AND WOULD SAY THAT, AS A LAND USE COMMITTEE MEMBER, I WOULD JUST FEEL A BIT THAT MY ROLE AS A PART OF THAT BODY FEELS A BIT DISEMPOWERED KNOWING I WOULD NOT HAVE A COMMITTEE RESPONSIBILITY WEIGHING IN ON THIS MATTER. THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. >> MR. STRAUSS GO AHEAD AND I'LL HAVE THE LAST WORD PLEASE. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. COUNCIL PRESIDENT ALL THE COMMENTS YOU PROVIDED ABOUT THE MERITS OF THE BILL AND THE CONTENT OF THE BILL IS EXACTLY WHY THIS BILL SHOULD HAVE ITS DAY AT COUNCIL. I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR THERE. IT WAS SHARED THAT THERE'S AN INTERSECTION BETWEEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND LAND USE AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT YOU SAID YOURSELF THIS IS LAND USE LEGISLATION. IN YOUR COMMENTS JUST A MOMENT AGO. AND IS DESCRIBED IN THAT MANNER BY THE REQUIREMENT OF THE PUBLIC, THE 30 DAY REQUIRED PUBLIC NOTICE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS. I'M GOING TO READ FROM THE BILL FOR A MOMENT HERE. AN ORDNANCE RELATING TO LAND USE AND ZONING. AMENDING SECTION 23 OF OUR CODE. THAT'S REALLY JUST THE POINT THAT I'M MAKING. THIS IS, THE ORDNANCE ITSELF SAYS AN ORDNANCE RELAYING TO LAND USE AND ZONING. LAST THING I WILL SAY, COUNCIL PRESIDENT POINT WELL TAKEN ABOUT THE DATES NOT OFFICIALLY SET FOR THE SELECT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT I'VE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT MEMOS FROM CENTRAL STAFF AND THE CHAIR STATING DATES TO SAVE AND I ALSO NOTE THAT IN YOUR ROLE COUNCIL PRESIDENT, ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS SEND A MEMO, ESTABLISHING ADDITIONAL DATES THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE DATES THAT WERE ALL RESERVING RIGHT NOW. I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION ON THIS. AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT TO MOVE THIS TO THE SELECT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER. >> THANK YOU. I GUESS WE'RE ALL GOING TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. SO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS OF COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA, THE SORT OF PROS AND CONS TO WEIGH HERE. I APPRECIATE THE CONCERN ABOUT PROCEDURE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS. I GUESS THOUGH THAT I WOULD SAY I THINK WE CAN BECOME TOO TIED. I MEAN, EVERY TWO YEARS I KNOW, WHEN WE ALL STARTED THE COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS WERE REDONE IN TERMS OF WHAT COMMITTEES HAD WHAT SUBJECT MATTER TO THEM. SO, THEY ARE NOT IMMUTABLE. THEY CHANGE WITH LEADERSHIP AND WITH DIRECTIONS OF THE COUNCIL I AS A MEMBER OF LAND USE, YOU KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT LAND USE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO REALLY BRING UP AND THAT WE'RE NOT BEING ABLE TO BRING UP BOTH BECAUSE OF THE VACANCY AND BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE THE COMP PLAN BEFORE US. WE HAVE AND AGAIN, WE RAN INTO THIS ISSUE WHEN WE WERE DEALING WITH A BUDGET WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW EDI MONEY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MONEY. IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES OF COLOR. AND HAVING TOO MANY SILOS AND SAYING YOU CAN'T TOUCH THIS BECAUSE THAT'S, THEY'RE ALL INTERCONNECTED. AND TO ME THE THE BOTTOM LINE IS IS THIS BILL GOING TO GET THE SAME PUBLIC AND AIRING THAT ALLOWS US TO FEEL THAT PWEF BEEN FULLY BRIEFED AND RECOGNIZING THAT WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ISSUE THAT WILL BE IF IT GOES, STAYS IN THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE THAT HAVE POTENTIAL POINTS OF USE. I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN AIRING AND DISCUSSION OF THE PROS AND CONS. IT'S GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. IT DOES TOUCH ON ALL THESE OTHER THINGS. AND SO I DON'T SEE IT AS, FUNDAMENTAL, FUNDAMENTAL CHALLENGE TO THE INTEGRITY OF THE SYSTEM OR THE INTEGRITY OF THE COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENT PROCESS. SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I AM GOING TO BE SUPPORTING, OR WHATEVER, VOTING AGAINST THE REQUEST. THANK YOU. >> IS THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE, I WILL, IS THERE ANOTHER, COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. EXCUSE ME. >> GOING AFTER COUNCIL MEMBER, FEELS LIKE GOING AFTER A RULING. YOU ALWAYS HAVE VERY THOUGHTFUL WORDS. COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT AS WELL. LOOK, THIS IS A LOT TO UNPACK. WE HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE HAVE A VACANCY, WE HAVE OTHER PRESSING MATTERS ON COUNCIL. I KNOW IT'S A LOT. I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THE CURRENT PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN SET FORWARD. FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TO THIS LEGISLATION THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING A DEEP DIVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE ARE. BUT I DO HAVE TO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE'S COMMENTS REGARDING UNDERSTANDING IS THIS GOING TO GET THE LEVEL OF ATTENTION AND FROM ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR US. SO ANY WAY, I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING FOR IT TO BE ON ITS CURRENT PATH. AND JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE. I THINK THIS IS A HEALTHY DISCUSSION FOR ALL OF US TO HAVE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS EVEN IF WE AGREE TO DISAGREE. I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR COLLEAGUES FOR THE HEALTHY DISCUSSIONS. SO THANK YOU. >> OKAY, ARE WE DONE? WE HAVE MORE HANDS. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO TRACK WHO IS IN. SO WHO HAD THEIR HAND UP FIRST? >> YEAH. ME AND THEN ROB. >> OKAY, BEFORE IF YOU DON'T MIND. I DO WANT TO RESPOND TO THE READING. COUNCIL BILL 120667 READS. RECRUITING OF POLICES IN THE SEATTLE. POLICE DEPARTMENTS TRANSFERRING POSITION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES TO SPD ETC. WHERE WAS THAT LEGISLATION HEARD? IN MY COMMITTEE, WHY? BECAUSE IT HAD TO DO WITH PERFECTING THE PROCESSES BY WHICH WE HIRE OFFICERS BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO, MAKE SURE WE COULD, WE COULD BUILD BACK THE NUMBERS THAT WE NEED TO KEEP OUR CITY SAFE. SO WHEN SO THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF MANY PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS VOTED ON COMMITTEES THAT PERHAPS MAY NOT BE THE OBVIOUS DESTINATION FOR A PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION. OKAY, SO GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO MY EARLIER COMMENTS AND I AGREE WITH SO MANY COMMENTS UP HERE. I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL PIECES OF LEGISLATION. REGARDLESS IF IT GOES TO COMMITTEE OR FULL COUNCIL OR SELECT COMMITTEES. IN THIS CASE THE SELECT COMMITTEE IS ALL OF US. YOUR COMMITTEE GOVERNANCE SORRY WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE IT GOES. WE ALL HAVE TO LEARN ABOUT THESE ISSUES AND VOTE ON THESE ISSUES. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED TO BRING FORWARD AS COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA SAID EARLIER AS YOU ARE THE SPONSOR OF THE LEGISLATION, AND GIVEN THE DIVISION OF LABOR HERE WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS TO BEGIN WITH. OR NOT MEETINGS BUT COMMITTEES TO BEGIN WITH IS TO JUST DIVIDE THE WORK. IT MAKES, I AM FINE FOR IT TO GO THROUGH YOUR COMMITTEE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE WILL ALL GET A CHANCE TO STUDY THE ISSUE, DELIVERY, HAVE THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATION AROUND THIS ISSUE. SO, THANK YOU JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT PIECE. >> WILL THE PERSON THAT HAD THEIR HAND UP PLEASE NEXT TALK. >> JUST TO PILE ON HERE, I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE FOR HER COMMENTS. I THINK PRIOR TO ALL THE COMMENTS BEFORE, NO DISRESPECT TO ANYONE. THAT SPOKE BEFORE HER, BUT I THINK SOME OF THE MOST OF THE EARLIER THE THRUST OF THE EARLIER COMMENTS. MINE SPECIFICALLY FOCUS ON THIS ONE SPECIFIC ISSUE BEFORE US. WHICH IS WHY I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE'S COMMENTS BECAUSE IT HELPS ALL OF US COLLECTIVELY TAKE A STEP BACK. AND ZOOM OUT AND UNDERSTAND THAT THIS, YES IT'S ABOUT THIS ISSUE BEFORE US BUT ALSO IT'S CAPABLE OF REPETITION. AND IT'S RIPE, IT CAN AND LIKELY WILL HAPPEN AGAIN. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED, WE NEED TO HAVE GENERAL RULES AND THEN CASES AND BE FLEXIBLE. I WORRY ABOUT BEING OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE. I HEAR ALL THE COMMENTS SHARED. ALONG WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE'S COMMENTS EARLIER. WHAT I SUPPORT IS A FULL, FAIR AND TRANSPARENT HEARING AND CONSIDERATION ON THIS TOPIC AND ALL TOPICS. AND I HAVE HEARD NOTHING FROM COUNCIL PRESIDENTS WORDS OR ACTIONS. SO FAR THAT, THAT WON'T HAPPEN IN THE GOVERNANCE ACCOUNTABILITY. FOR THOSE REASONS I SUPPORT THE CURRENT PATH. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. IS YOUR HAND UP AGAIN? OKAY GO AHEAD. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY CHALLENGES, THEY VARY QUITE A BIT. YOU KNOW THERE'S THINGS RELATED TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. THERE'S SOME LAW PIECES THEN THERE'S SOME ADMINISTRATIVE PIECES. SO POLICE RECRUITMENT HAD MANY SHORTFALLS IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND SPD AND THE COMMISSION AND WE'RE WELL OVER IT. THIS IS A GOVERNANCE ISSUE. THERE WAS THAT LINE FOR THAT TOPIC TO BE IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. AGAIN, THIS STRIKES ME AND IT READS AS A LAND USE ISSUE. I GUESS EVERYBODY HAS THEIR POSITIONS. I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT. >> I HEARD YOUR INTAKE OF BREATH AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION, THINGS GO THROUGH. >> THE COMMITTEE ACTION IS RECOMMENDATION. >> SO SOONER AND LATER WE ALL GET TO VOTE ON SOMETHING EVEN IT FAILS THE SPONSOR SHOULD BRING IT TO FULL COUNCIL. >> YES. >> I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS AND I FEEL FOR THAT REASON, I'M OKAY MOVING FORWARD IN THIS PATH. THOUGH, AGAIN AS I SAID EARLIER, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS. >> THE MORE THE MERRIER IN COMMITTEE DISCUSSION. FOLLOWING THE PRACTICE OF OTHER COLLEAGUES. ANYBODY IS WELCOMED TO COME TO THE COMMITTEE AS IT IS DISCUSSED AND HEARD. AND ALSO, OFFER AMENDMENTS THAT CAN EITHER BE SPONSORED BY SOMEONE WHO'S IN THE COMMITTEE, YOU CAN BRING IT AT FULL COUNCIL. I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH THE AMENDMENTS AT FULL COUNCIL AS WELL. SO WITH THAT, DO I NEED TO CALL FOR A VOTE ON WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE MOTION. >> POINT OF ORDER OR POINT OF CLARIFICATION. MA'AM, CAN YOU JUST BE VERY CRISP AND CLEAR ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY WE ARE VOTING FOR. WHAT A YES VOTE WOULD PROTEND. >> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO VOTE TO IRC. SO A YES VOTE WOULD CHANGE THE IRC. AND A NO VOTE WOULD KEEP THE IRC WITH COMMITTEE REFERRAL. >> THANK YOU. >> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. >> YES. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> NO. >> THREE IN FAVOR, FIVE OPPOSED. >> THE MOTION FAILS AND THE IRC WILL REMAIN THE SAME. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. SEEING NO DISCUSSION, THE INTRODUCTION REFERRAL CALENDAR IS ADOPTED. WE WILL, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION. OKAY. DO I NEED TO REPHRASE. DO I NEED TO SAY THAT SENTENCE AGAIN? >> CALENDAR WILL BE ADOPTED. >> IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION THE CALENDAR WILL BE ADOPTED. MOVING ON. I'M TRYING TO FIND MY SCRIPT. PLEASE GIVE ME A MOMENT HERE. >> I WAS IN THE LEGISLATIVE DATA BASE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS OF ALL THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. WE WILL NOW ENTERTAIN THE CONSENT CALENDAR. SO. >> ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA. >> WHAT DID YOU SAY? >> ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA. >> IF THERE'S NO, THE AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. SEEING NONE, THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. WE WILL CONTINUE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ITEMS INCLUDE THE MINUTES OF JANUARY 7, 2025, COUNCIL BILL 120931. AND 9 APPOINTMENTS FROM THE HOUSING AND HUMAN SERVICES AND FOUR APPOINTMENTS FROM THE LIBRARY COMMITTEE. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE? >> SEEING NONE. I MOVE TO ADOPT THE CONSENT CALENDAR. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO ADOPT THE CONSENT CALENDAR. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE ON THE ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIV ERA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> AYE. >> 8 IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED. >> OKAY, THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ARE ADOPTED. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE AFFIX MY SIGNATURE TO THE MINUTES AND LEGISLATION ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ON MY BEHALF. OKAY, THERE ARE NO COMMITTEE REPORTS TODAY. SO IS THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL RIGHT NOW? BEFORE WE ADJOURN? I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING. SO, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS, WE'LL MOVE INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. AS PRESIDING OFFICER I'M ANNOUNCING THE SEATTLE COUNCIL WILL NOW CONVENE INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE PURPOSE IS TO EVALUATE THE QUALIFICATIONS OF CANDIDATES FOR APPOINTMENT TO ELECTIVE OFFICE. SO YOU KNOW THE DRILL, THIS WILL, THERE IS SCHEDULED FOR ABOUT AN HOUR. SO. 4:40. OKAY. WE THIS WILL CONTINUE TILL ABOUT 4:40 AND IF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION GOES LONGER, I WILL COME BACK ON AIR AND STATE THE EXPECTED TIME OF DURATION. AND IF BUT WE COULD JUST FINISH AT WHICH POINT THE MEETING WOULD END AUTOMATICALLY. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT AND I'LL SEE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE.