November 16, 2023 Minneapolis City Council

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[0:34] Andrea Jenkins: GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ANDREA JENKINS AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER THIS REGULAR MEETING FOR THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 16th. HONORARY RESOLUTIONS TO PRENT WHICH WE WILL DO PRIOR TO TAKING UP OUR OUR ORDER OF BUSINESS. [0:58] Andrea Jenkins: AND THE FIRST RESOLUTION WILL BE PRESENTED BY MYSELF AND COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. AND THAT IS THE TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE RESOLUTION. SO BEAR WITH ME WHILE I COME DOWN AND READ THE RESOLUTION ALONG WITH COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. [2:37] Linea Palmisano: WELCOME, EVERYONE. SO THIS RESOLUTION OBSERVING NOVEMBER 20th, THIS COMING MONDAY, AS TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE. WHEREAS SADLY AND INHUMANELY, AT LEAST 25 TRANSGENDER OR GENDER NON-CONFORMING PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BEEN KILLED IN THE UNITED STATES IN 2023, INCLUDING THROUGH GUN AND INTERPERSONAL VIOLENCE; AND WHEREAS WE FACE AN EPIDEMIC OF VIOLENCE AGAINST TRANSGENDER WOMEN OF COLOR IN THE UNITED STATES WITH BLACK AND LATINX TRANSGENDER WOMEN REPRESENTING A VAST MAJORITY OF [3:22] Andrea Jenkins: THESE FATALITIES AND EXPERIENCING VIOLENCE AT DISPROPORTIONATELY HIGHER RATES; AND -- WHEREAS TOO OFF THESE MURDERS AND VIOLENT ATTACKS GO UNREPORTED OR ARE MISREPORTED. [3:39] Andrea Jenkins: TRANSGENDER WOMEN OF COLOR FACE VIOLENCE EVERY DAY AND FEAR TURNING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR HELP DUE TO FURTHERING INTERACTIONS OF VIOLENT, VICTIM BLAMING STIGMATIZATION AND HARMFUL CHARACTERIZATION, INCLUDING AT LEAST ONE PERSON WHO DIED THIS IN AN OFFICER-INVOLVED SHOOTING AND WHEREAS TRANSGENDER AND GENDER NON-CONFORMING PEOPLE WHOM WE'VE LOST IN THE LAST YEAR DUE TO VIOLENCE PERPETRATING AGAINST THEM WERE IGHBORS, STUDENTS, CO-WORKERS, FRIENDS, AND FAMILY MEMBERS WHOSE LIVES WERE TAKEN FROM THEIR LOVED ONES AND FROM THE COMMUNITIES; AND WHEREAS TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE IS ALSO OBSERVED AS TRANSGENDER DAY OF RESILIENCE TO CELEBRATE [4:24] Linea Palmisano: THE RESILIENCE AND POWER OF TRANS AND GENDER NON-CONFORMING PEOPLE STILL LIVING, FIGHTING FOR THEIR SAFETY, AND PROTECTING EACH OTHER AND WHEREAS TRANSGENDER AND GENDER NON-CONFORMING PEOPLE DESERVE THE RESOURC AND PROTECTIONS NECESSARY TO BE CELEBRATED IN LIFE AND NOT ONLY IN DEATH. THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL DO HERB OBSERVE NOVEMBER 20th, 2023 AS TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE IN ACKNOWLEDGING AND MOURNING THE LIVES OF TRANSGENDER AND GENDER NON-CONFORMING PEOPLE WE'VE LOST IN THE LAST YEAR DUE TO VIOLENCE AND RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS MUCH WORK AHEAD IN OUR DUTIES TO HELP CREATE A SAFER MORE EQUITABLE CITY FOR OUR TRANSGENDER AND [5:10] Andrea Jenkins: GENDER NON-CONFORMING COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I GUESS I WILL JUST SAY, I'M DEEPLY PROUD TO BE A MEMBER OF THE TRANSGENDER, GENDER NON-CONFORMING COMMUNITY AND THE WORK CONTINUES. AND I DO WANT TO SAY TO ALL THE TRANSGENDER AND NON-GENDER CONFORMING PEOPLE IN MINNEAPOLIS WE LOVE YOU AND WE ARE HERE TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHT TO EXIST AS A HUMAN BEING THANK YOU. ( APPLAUSE ) AND I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR NEWEST EMPLOYEE MARS AND I'M SORRY, TELL ME YOUR LAST NAME. [6:03] Mars Kaminski: KAMINSKI AS OUR TRANSGENDER COORDINATOR. AND OFFER UP A FEW WORDS. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT JENKINS. I'M REALLY HONORED TO STAND BESIDE YOU HERE TODAY IN THIS ROOM WITH SO MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE SUCH MONOE MENTOUS AND INSTRUMENTAL WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY. I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE WORK WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT RESOLUTIONS LIKE THIS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE WAYS TO TARGET TRANSPHOBIA AND MOVE THROUGH SYSTEMIC CHANGE AND REDUCING DISPARITIES AMONGST TRANS INDIVIDUALS, I REALLY THINK OF IT AS TWO COMPONENTS. [6:47] Mars Kaminski: ONE IS THE POLICY SHIFT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO PROTECT PEOPLE. BUT THE OTHER NATURE OF IT IS T CULTURE SHIFT. AND SYMBOLIC RESOLUTIONS LIKE THIS HAVE A LOT OF MEANING FOR THAT. BECAUSE THEY DO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE SEE YOU, YOU ARE VALUED, YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL, YOU ARE SO WORTHY OF EVERYTHING GOOD IN THIS LIFE, AND SYMBOLIC RESOLUTIONS LIKE THIS MIGHT BE EXACTLY WHAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO POTENTIALLY COME OUT IN THEIR WORKPLACE. OR IT MIGHT BE WHAT A YOUTH NEEDS TO GO TO SCHOOL THAT DAY AND SEE A BRIGHT FUTURE AHEAD FOR THEM. SO I JUST WANT TO HONOR AND RECOGNIZE THE WORK THAT SO MANY AMAZING LEADERS IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE DOING AND YOU ARE DOING SUCH CRITICAL WORK. [7:31] Mars Kaminski: AND SO I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL IN THE FUTURE IN ADVANCING TRANSEQUITY FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU. [7:31] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, MARS. ( APPLAUSE ) I KNOW WE HAVE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, SO MANY COMMUNITY LEADERS HERE. FROM OUTFRONT MINNESOTA, FROM PRIDE. I'M NOT SURE IF ANYONE WANTS TO SHARE ANY FURTHER COMMES? [8:04] Cat Rowan: THANK YOU. CAT ROWAN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR OUTFRONT MINNESOTA. THRILLED TO RECEIVE THE RECOGNITION. ONE THING THAT IS MOST IMPORTANT, WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF TRANSGENDER AWARENESS WEEK HERE AHEAD OF TRANSGENDER REMEMBRANCE. ONE THING THAT IS CRITICAL WITH THIS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE ISSUES AND BRINGING AWARENESS TO THESE CRITICAL HARMS THAT ARE FACING OUR COMMUNITY. IN PARTICULARLY, BIPOC TRANS FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN AT THE HEART OF THE VIOLENCE AT OU COMMUNITIES. I THINK ONE OF THE KEY THINGS WITH RESOLUTIONS, THIS IS AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF HARM, BUT IT'S ALSO A PROMISE TO DO MORE. AND NOT JUST ISN'T THE FORM OF A RESOLUTION, BUT CONTINUED INVESTMENTS IN [8:50] Cat Rowan: HOUSING, IN SAFETY, THAT ENCOMPASSES ALL OF OUR NEEDS IN HEALTH AND WELL BEING AND CARE AND EMPLOYMENT IN ALL SORTS OF SPACES. SO THIS RESOLUTION IS A STARTING POINT. IT'S A SPACE FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NEWER TO THIS TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND LEARN ABOUT THE TRANCES COMMUNITIES. [9:10] Cat Rowan: AND FOR THOSE IN THE WORK, IT'S A PROMISE TO MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR MOVING THIS FORWARD AND FOR YOUR LEGACY OF WORK. [9:10] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, CAT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. ( APPLAUSE ) THANK YOU. CAN WE GET A GROUP PHOTO? THANKS, EVERYONE. HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY. HERE I PRESENT THIS RESOLUTION TO MARS. [9:48] Andrea Jenkins: ( APPLAUSE ) AND OUR NEXT RESOLUTION -- THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO OUR NEXT RESOLUTION HONORING AND RECOGNIZING EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUPS AT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. AND WHEREAS -- OH, I'M SORRY. WE SHOULDN'T BITE OFF OUR AMAZING RESOURCE GROUP REPRESENTATIVES. WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY. WOULD FOLKS LIKE TO COME UP? GOOD MORNING. GOOD [10:38] Andrea Jenkins: MORNING. HOW ARE YOU? SO GOOD TO SEE YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO AGAIN THIS RESOLUTION IS HONORING AND RECOGNIZING OUR EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUPS HERE AT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. AND I WILL START. WHEREAS EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUPS, ERGS, ARE PIVOTAL IN CHAMPIONING VISIBILITY FOR DIVERSE GROUPS AND SERVE AS POWERFUL AGENTS OF CHANGE, DRIVING BOTH MEANINGFUL TRANSFORMATIONS, AND CRANESTED ENGAGEMENT AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS EMPLOYEES MAKE UP A DIVERSE POPULATION REFLECTING THE RESIDENTS, VISITORS, AND BUSINESS OWNERS. THESE EMPLOYEES WORK TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND TO ENSURE ALL THAT COME TO MINNEAPOLIS ARE WELCOME [11:46] Linea Palmisano: AND -- WHEREAS CITY EMPLOYEES CURRENTLY COMPRISE 31.5% OF EMPLOYEES WHO IDENTIFY AS PEOPLE OF COLOR AND 31.8% WHO IDENTIFY AS WOMEN. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS FORMALLY STARTED ERGS IN 2017 TO PROVIDE SUPPORT TO EMPLOYEES THAT VOLUNTARILY MEET AND MOBILIZE AROUND SHARED INTEREST, CHARACTERISTIC, OR SET OF EXPERIENCES. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS NOW HAS SEVEN ERGS. MINNEAPOLIS AMERICAN INDIAN NETWORK, MINNEAPOLIS ASIAN PACIFIC EMPLOYEES, MINNEAPOLIS BLACK EMPLOYEE NETWORK, MILITARY EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION, INFLUENCE CULTUREND ATTITUDE, SEXL ORIENTATION AND GENDER IDENTITY, AND WOMEN OF MINNEAPOLIS [12:31] Andrea Jenkins: EMPLOYEE NETWORK. AND -- WHEREAS ERGS CONTRIBUTE TO AN INCLUSIVE WORKPLACE CULTURE IT'S LORING BELONGING AND EQUITY. THEY DRIVE TRANSFORMATIVE CONVERSATIONS AMONGST THEIR MEMBERSHIP, BUILD IN PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMMING, AND NURTURE A SENSE OF BELONGING AND INTERCONNECTEDNESS FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES. AND WHEREAS ERGS HAVE COORDINATED EVENTS TO CELEBRATE, HONOR, AND BRING AWARENESS TO THE DIVERSE CULTURES AND IDENTITIES OF EMPLOYEES SUCH AS BUT NOT LIMITED TO BLACK MYSTERY MONTH, WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, ASIAN PACIFIC AND HAWAIIAN ISLANDER'S [13:18] Linea Palmisano: MONTH, LATINO HERITAGE MONTH, VETERANS APPRECIATION MONTH, AND PRIDE MONTH. AND WHEREAS -- ERGS HAVE BEEN ESSENTIAL IN SHAPING CITY POLICIES SUCH AS INFLUENCING AND EXPANDING THE PAID PARENTAL LEAVE, ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF JUNETEENTH AS A CITY HOLIDAY, AND EXPANDING THE CITY'S MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS FOR CULTURALLY SPECIFIC CARE. AND WHEREAS THROUGH THEIR DEDICATED LEADERSHIP, EMPLOYEES LEADING ERG GROUPS HAVE DEVOTED THEIR TIME AND EXPERTISE TO ELEVATE EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT, RETENTION, CULTIVATE A STRONG INTERNAL COMMUNITY, NURTURE INCLUSION, AND PROMOTE DIVERSITY WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION. NOW THEREFORE BE [14:04] Andrea Jenkins: IT ROLVED THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL DO HERB RECOGNIZE NOVEMBER 17th, 2023 AS INTERNATIONAL EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUP DAY IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, COMMENDING THE ERGS FOR THEIR MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND RECOGNIZING THEIR UNWAVERING DEDICATION IN FOSTERING A CULTURE OF INCLUSIVITY, EQUITY, AND BELONGING. THANK YOU ALL SO VERY, VERY MUCH. OUR EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUP'S BRING SO MUCH TO T CULTURAL LIFE OF THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND THE CITY ENTERPRISE ITSELF. AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SHARE ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW? I KNOW MONIQUE YOU HAVE BEEN ON THIS JOURNEY PROBABLY SINCE THE BEGINNING OF OUR ERG GROUP. DO YOU WANT TO SHARE A FEW WORDS? [15:06] Monique (HR/ERG Representative): THANK YOU, COUNCILRESIDENT AND COUNCIL VE PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS BEAUTIFUL MOSAIC OF AMAZING HUMAN BEINGS DO GREAT WORKDAY IN AND DAY OUT TO BUILD COMMUNITY WITHIN OUR WORK FORCE. AND OUR WORK FORCE LOVES THEM FOR IT. SO THESE LEADERS, THERE IS NOTHING THAT I CAN SAY TO REALLY EXPRESS THE THANKS AND RECOGNIZE THE WORK THAT THEY DO. BECAUSE THEY DO IT OUT OF LOVE AND PASSION. THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR SUPPORTING THE WORK THAT WE DO BY PROVIDING FUNDING FOR THE EVENTS AND SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE FOR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE. [15:52] Andrea Jenkins: WELL, THANK YOU, EVERYONE. ( APPLAUSE ) I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE THAT CAN TAKE A GROUP PHOTO, BUT I WOULD LOVE IF WE COULD HAVE A MEMORY OF THIS MOMENT. [16:23] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. ( APPLAUSE ) THANKS EVERYONE. [17:43] Andrea Jenkins: ALL RIGHT. THANKS, EVERYONE, FOR INDULGING US. WITH THAT I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL TO VERIFY THAT WE HAVE A PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. [17:58] Casey Carl: COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. [17:58] Andrew Johnson: HERE. [17:58] Casey Carl: OSMAN. [17:58] Jamal Osman: HERE. [17:58] Casey Carl: COUNCILMEMBER PAYNE. [17:58] Elliott Payne: HERE. [17:58] Casey Carl: KOSKI. [17:58] Emily Koski: PRESENT. [17:58] Casey Carl: CHUGHTAI. [17:58] Aisha Chughtai: PRESENT. [17:58] Casey Carl: CHAVEZ. [17:58] Jason Chavez: PRESENT. [17:58] Casey Carl: VETAW. [17:58] LaTrisha Vetaw: PRESENT. [17:58] Casey Carl: RAINVILLE. [17:58] Michael Rainville: PRESENT. [17:58] Casey Carl: GOODMAN. [17:58] Elizabeth Goodman: PRESENT. [17:58] Casey Carl: WONSLEY. [17:58] Robin Wonsley: PRESENT. [18:14] Casey Carl: VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. [18:14] Linea Palmisano: PRESENT. [18:14] Casey Carl: PRESIDENT JENKINS. [18:14] Andrea Jenkins: PRESENT. [18:14] Casey Carl: THERE ARE 13 MEMBERS PRESENT. [18:14] Andrea Jenkins: LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. NEXT WE HAVE THE ADOPTION OF OUR AGENDA. THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S MEETSIN -- MEETING IS BEFORE US. IS THERE ANY AMENDMENTS TO TODAY'S AGENDA? SEEING NONE I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA. [18:41] Elliott Payne: SO MOVE. [18:41] Linea Palmisano: SECOND. [18:41] Andrea Jenkins: CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. [18:41] Casey Carl: JOHNSON. AYE. PAYNE. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. VETAW. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. AYE. PRESIDENT JENKINS. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES. [18:57] Andrea Jenkins: THAT CARRIES THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. NEXT ITEM IS ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES FROM OUR REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER 2ND. [19:13] Linea Palmisano: SO MOVED. [19:13] Elliott Payne: SECOND. [19:13] Andrea Jenkins: CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. [19:13] Casey Carl: COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. AYE. OSMAN. AYE. PAYNE. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. ELLISON. AYE. VETAW. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. PALMISANO. AYE. PRESIDENT JENKINS. AYE. THERE IS 13 AYES. [19:28] Andrea Jenkins: TT CARRIES AND THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED. WE HAVE REFERRAL OF PETITIONS COMMUNICATIONS AND REPORTS TO THE PROPER COMMITTEES. MAY I HAVE THAT MOTION PLEASE? [19:49] Linea Palmisano: SO MOVED. [19:49] Andrea Jenkins: CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. [19:49] Casey Carl: OSMAN. AYE. PAYNE. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. ELLISON. AYE. VETAW. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES. [20:05] Andrea Jenkins: THAT CARRIES AND THOSE MATTERS HAVE BEEN REFERRED. THE NEXT ORDER TO HAVE BUSINESS IS REPORTS FROM OUR STANDING COMMITTEES. BEGINNING FROM THE REPORT OF OUR BUSINESS INSPECTIONS, HOUSING, AND ZONING COMMITTEE. AND THAT REPORT WILL BE PRESENTED BY THE COMMIT'S CHAIR. COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER GOODMAN. [20:24] Elizabeth Goodman: THE BUSINESS ININSPECTIONS HOUSING AND ZONING COMMITTEE IS BRINGING 19 ITEMS FORWARD FOR APPROVAL. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A LICENSE FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND A SIDEWALK CAFE. ITEMS TWO, THREE, AND FOUR ARE SIDE YARD LAND SALES. ITEM FIVE IS THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT LEVIES RELATED TO NUANCE CONDITIONS AND ABATEMENT AND UNPAID ADMINISTRATIVE FINES. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING PLAN FOR 550 WEST LAKE STREET. ITEM SEVEN IS RETURNING TO AUTHOR. THE ISSUE OF REGULATING TOBACCO DEALER LICENSES AT COMMERCIAL LAWS. [21:03] Elizabeth Goodman: ITEM NINE IS THE NORTH MARKET BOND ISSUANCE. THIS IS A SUBJECT OF A MEETING FOLLOWING THIS MEETING. ITEM NUMBER NINE IS LIQUOR LICENSE APPROVALS INCLUDING ONE ITEM TXT WINE AND SPIRITS THAT WAS MOVED FORWARD WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ARE ASKING TO POSTPONE ON THE FLOOR TODAY. ITEM TEN ARE THE LIQUOR LICENSE RENEWALS. 11 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH MIDWEST STRATEGIES. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS AN ITEM RELATED TO THE UPPER HARBOR TERMINAL. ITEM 13 IS A PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE WAIVER. ITEM 14 IS CARRY FORWARD OF OUR HOUSING BANDS. -- HOUSING BONDS. ITEM 16 IS THE [21:49] Elizabeth Goodman: DECERTIFY CASE OF THE LOWRY RIDGE AND 10th AND WASHINGTON TAX INCREMENT DISTRICTS. ITEM NUMBER 17 IS AN ALLEY VOCATION FOR MCAD. ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REALLY AMAZING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT FUND LOAN WHICH I'M SURE COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ WOULD TALK ABOUT IF ASKED. SO I WILL MOVE ALL ITEMS 1-19 INCLUDING THE POSTPONEMENT OFTEM NUMR 9-1. HAPPY TO STAND FOR QUESTIONS. [22:26] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER GOODMAN HAS MOVED THAT COMMITTEE'S REPORT WITH A REQUEST TO POSTPONE OR -- ITEM NUMBER 9.1 IS THAT CORRECT? [22:43] Elizabeth Goodman: YES. I SEE COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON HE HAD A MOTION HE DID NOT TALK TO ME ABOUT. AND OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T TALK TO STAFF ABOUT BECAUSE THEY STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT. AND YOU CAN BRING IT UP, I THINK IT'S A BIT UNFAI [23:00] Andrew Johnson: I AM IN QUEUE. T YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON A MOTION, YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER, I BELIEVE. [23:00] Elizabeth Goodman: WELL, IT WAS NOT NOTICED OR PASSED OUT TO ANYONE IN ADVANCE. [23:00] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER GOODMAN. COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON. [23:24] Andrew Johnson: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK COUNCILMEMBER GOODMAN GOT THE JUMP ON THIS. BECAUSE MY STAFF WERE NOT INSTRUCTED TO PASS THIS OUT YET. THEY HAD IT ON STAND BY BECAUSE I READ AN E-MAIL THAT CAME IN AT MIDNIGHT LAST NIGHT FROM ONE OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS. AND SO I ACTUALLY, MADAM PRESIDENT, AM GOING T ASK THE CHAIR AND ASK OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER IF THEY HAVE ANYMORE INSIGHT ON THAT E-MAIL. BECAUSE WE DID RECEIVE WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A THOUGHTFUL E-MAIL FROM ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS. PLANNING COMMISSIONER MEYER, WHO RAISED A QUESTION ABOUT WHY LANGUAGE WAS REINSERTED AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION REMOVED LANGUAGE. [23:49] Andrew Johnson: AND HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF REQUIRING ALL SIZE OF BUILDINGS TO HAVE THE SAME EXTERIOR MATERIALS AS THE FRONT RATHER THAN SIMILAR. HE THOUGHT THAT IT MIGHT POTENTIALLY RESULT IN DECISIONS ON THE FRONT MATERIALS BEING LESSER BECAUSE YOU ARE WRAPPING THE BUILDING WITH THE FULL SET OF MATERIALS. AND SO HE RAISED THIS QUESTION. I THOUGHT IT DESERVES SOME, AT LEAST, DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THIS. I AM RESPONDING -- BEING RESPONSIVE TO AN E-MAIL WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A THOUGHTFUL ISSUE BEING RAISED AND SO NO, I AM NOT READY TO MOVE THIS FOR MY COLLEAGUES. [24:34] Andrew Johnson: ON THE DISCUSSION. AND SO IED WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK COUNCILMEMBER GOODMAN AND OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER IF THEY HAVE ANYMORE DETAILS ON THIS SO AT LEAST WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND IT GIVEN THAT ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES, I BELIEVE, RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL LATE LAST NIGHT AND PROBABLY, LIKE ME, DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO READ IT UNTIL, FRANKLY, RIGHT NOW. IF AT ALL. [24:59] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. I WILL INVITE COUNCILMEMBER GOODMAN TO RESPOND IF YOU WOULD LIKE. [25:36] Elizabeth Goodman: I'M HAPPYO. I THINK YOU SHOULD ASK MR. WHITENBERG TO COME UP. THIS HAS BEEN FOUR YEARS OF WORK ON BEHALF OF STAFF. THEY ARE QUITE DISGUSTED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, GENERALLY SPEAKING. AND WE ARE SO UPSET ABOUT IT THAT THEY MOVED FORWARD A NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS THAT THEY EXPLAINED IN COMMITTEE AND THAT THE COMMITTEE TOOK UP A WEEK AGO NOW. MR. MEYERS SENT US AN E-MAIL AT MIDNIGHT LAST NIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR STAFF, IF YOU ALLOW DEVELOPERS TO HAVE DIFFERENT MATERIALS ON ALL SIDES OF THE BUILDING, THAT THEY WILL PUT BEAUTIFUL MATERIALS ON THE FRONT AND CRAPPY MATERIALS ON ALL OTHER SIDES. AND THE EXAMPLE, MR. MEYER USES IS A BIT UNFAIR. THE BUILDING HE SHOWS WAS A BUILDING BUILT IN 1912 WHEN THE ONLY CHOICE OF MATERIALS WAS, ESSENTIALLY, BRICK. SO ALL OF THESE HISTORIC BUILDINGS HAVE BRICK ON ALL SIDES. BUT I CAN PROBABLY THINK OF, IF GIVEN MORE THAN TWO MINUTES NOTICE, A NUMBER OF INSTANCES WHERE DEVELOPERS HAVE PUT BEAUTIFUL MATERIALS ON THE FRONT AND THEN FACINGHE NEIGHBORS ON ALL THREE SIDES HAVE USED A LESS SUFFICIENT MATERIAL. SO I STAND WITH [26:22] Elizabeth Goodman: STAFF. I'M ACTUALLY ANNOYED BY THE ENTIRE SITUATION MYSELF BECAUSE STAFF WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO ENSURE THAT QUALITY BUILDING MATERIALS WERE USED IN ALL NEIGHBORHOODS ON ALL SIDES AND THE BUILDING MATERIALS ORGANIZATIONS, AS WELL AS THE OTHER LOBBYISTS WATERED THAT DOWN TO SAY EVERY MATERIAL IS GOOD AND EQUAL SO NOW EFIS IS EQUAL TO WOOD IS EQUAL TO BRICK WHICH THE SFF ARE UPSET ABOUT. WE DIDN'T WANT TO UPSET THAT APPLE CART. THE ONLY APPLE CART THE STAFF UPSET WAS THE ONE THAT SAID YOU COULD HAVE CRAPPY MATERIALS ON THREE SIDES OF THE BUILDING AND NICE MATERIALS ON ONE SIDE. THAT'S WHAT IS GOING ON. SO I NEVER WOULD HAVE AIRED ALL OF THIS UNFORTUNATE DIRTY LAUNDRY BUT FROM A MIDNIGHT E-MAIL FROM ONE MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. BUT APPARENTLY IT'S A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION YOU THINK IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE STAFF AND EVERYBODY ELSE. [27:13] Andrew Johnson: MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT IS DRIVING MOTIVES -- [27:13] Andrea Jenkins: PLEASE,LEASE, DECORUM. I AGREE WITH YOU. THANK YOU. [27:37] Casey Carl: MADAM PRESIDENT, PERHAPS A BETTER COURSE OF ACTION, IF THERE IS NEED FOR DISCUSSION ON ITEM NUMBER 18, WE CAN SEPARATE THAT FROM THE REST OF THE AGENDA, VOTE ON THE AGENDA THAT WAS MOVED. I HAVE SENT AN E-MAIL TO THE STAFF TO SEE IF THEY COULD COME TO THE CHAMBER. I HAVEN'T HAD A RESPONSE. BUT IF THERE IS NEED OF INTERACTION OR RESPONSES FROM THE STAFF, I'VE ASKED THEM TO COME SO THAT THOSE RESPONSES COULD BE MADE. [27:37] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, MR. CLERK. AND WE WILL TAKE UP THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT AND WE WILL PULL ITEM NUMBER 18 IF WE DO HAVE STAFF HERE TO HAVE SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, THEN WE CAN RETURN TO IT AT THAT TIME. COLLEAGUES, THE ITEM BEFORE US TODAY IS THE BUSINESS COMMITTEE REPORT WHICH POSTPONEO POSTPONE ITEM 9.1 AND AND TO HOLD OVER ITEM NUMBER 18 THE EXTERIOR BUILDING MATERIALS ORDINANCE UNTIL SUCH TIME WE CAN GET SOME INPUT FROM STAFF. AND SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [28:50] Robin Wonsley: THANK YOU. JUST CLARITY AGAIN. I KNOW WE ARE EXCLUDING ITEM 18 AND THIS IS ALSO GOING TO BE EXCLUDING ITEM 9.1? NO, WERE VOTING ON THE DELAY THEN TOO. OKAY. THANK YOU. [29:10] Andrea Jenkins: YEAH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. [29:10] Casey Carl: COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. AYE. OSMAN. AYE. PAYNE. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. ELLISON. AYE. VETAW. AYE ON EVERYTHING EXCEPT 9.1. RAINVILLE. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. AYE. PRESIDENT JENKINS. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES ON THE REPORT EXCEPT FOR ITEM 9.1 WHICH HAS 12 AYES AND ONE NAY. [29:43] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. AND WE WILL RETURN TO ITEM NUMBER 18 AT THE END OF OUR AGENDA. SO THAT COMMITTEE REPORT PASSES AND OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE. AND THAT REPORT WILL BE PRESEED BY ITS CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. [30:17] Michael Rainville: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THE IGR COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD ONE, ACTUALLY TWO ITEMS, FOR APPROVAL. NUMBER ONE, AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT AMENDMENTS WITH FREDRIKSON AND BYRON, HYLDEN ADVOCACY AND LAW. AND PRIMARY GROUP FOR LEGISLATION REPRESENT SEN -- REPRESENTATION SERVICES. AND ITEM TWO 2024 LEGISLATIVE POLICY POSITIONS. I WILL MOVE APPROVAL FOR THIS ITEM. [31:06] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I SEE COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY IN QUEUE. [31:06] Robin Wonsley: I JUST WANTED TO PULL ITEM 1.2 FOR A SEPARATE VOTE. [31:27] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY HAS REQUESTED TO TAKE A SEPARATE VOTE ON ITEM 1.2. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS COMMITTEE REPORT. RECOGNIZING THAT WE WILL TAKE A SEPARATE VOTE ON ITEM 1.2. [31:57] Casey Carl: COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. AYE. OSMAN. AYE. PAYNE. AYE. KOS. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. ELLISON. AYE. VETAW. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. AYE. PRESIDENT JENKINS. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES. [31:57] Andrea Jenkins: THAT CARRIES AND NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM 1.2. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? [31:57] Robin Wonsley: NOP, JUST WANTED TO TAKE IT UP FOR A SEPARATE VOTE. [32:13] Andrea Jenkins: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEM 1.2? SEEING NONE, CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. [32:44] Casey Carl: JOHNSON. AYE. OSMAN. AYE. PAYNE. NAY. KOSKI. AYE. CHUGHTAI. NAY. VETAW. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. NAY. VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. AYE. PRESIDENT JENKINS. AYE. THERE ARE NINE AYES AND FOUR NAYS. [32:44] Andrea Jenkins: THAT CARRIES AND THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS REPORT IS ADOPTED. NEXT WE HAVE OUR POLICY AND GOVERNMENTAL OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE REPORT TO BE PRESENTED BY THE CHAIR. COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON. [33:02] Jeremiah Ellison: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THE POLICY AND GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE HAS 15 ITEMS TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL. ONE IS PASSING A RESOLUTION FOR A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FOR THE COOPERATIVE DEVELOPMENT FOUNDATION FOR TRAVEL EXPENSIONS. TWO IS 2023 PROPERTY TAX SPECIAL ASSESSMENT THREE IS AUTHORIZING COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT: OPERATING ENGINEERS LOCAL 49 THROUGH THE TIME PERIOD 2024 THROUGH 2026. FOUR IS AGREEMENTS WITH XCEL ENERGY TO PURCHASE RENEWABLE ELECTRICITY. FIVE IS PROGRAMMATIC AGREEMENT WITH THE UNITED STATES ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, THE MINNESOTA STATE PRESERVATION OFFICE, AND THE ADVISORY COUNCIL ONISTORIC PRESERVATION. [34:02] Jeremiah Ellison: SIX IS BID FOR CORROSION INHIBITOR. SEVEN IS CONTRACT THE ROYA MEDIA. EIGHT IS AUTHORIZING CONTRACT WITH THE MINNESOTA STATE COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES THROUGH CENTURY COLLEGE FOR FIRE EDUCATION SERVICES. NINE IS AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH INNOVATION MASONRY RESTORATION LLC FOR THE KENWOOD TOWER MASONRY PROJECT. TEN IS CONTRACT AMENDMENT FOR EUREKA CONSTRUCTION. 11 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT FOR BITUMINOUS ROADWAYS INC. THERE IS A REVISED RCA THAT I'M SURE COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ WILL WANT TO SPEAK TO AND I CAN READ FOR MY COLLEAGUES. 12 IS APPROVALLING A LEGAL SETTLEMENT FOR KHALID EL-AMIN VERSES THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. 13 IS LEGAL SETTLEMENT WITH WILLIAM CHAMPA VERSES THE CITY OF MINNEAPOS. AND 14 IS REAL -- IS REALLOCATION OF AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS. AND I WILL PULL THE REVISED RCA WHICH, IN SHORT, IS INCREASING THE [35:34] Jeremiah Ellison: CONTRACT WITH BITUMINOUS ROADWAYS INC. FOR THE AMOUNT OF $48,000 TO $500,000. THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE. THE INCREASE WAS BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER AND THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE EXECUTING ROAD CONSTRUCTION THAT THERE IS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK THAT IS STILL ABLE TO BE DONE THAT THEY DID NOT ANTICIPATE TO BE ABLE TO BE DONE. WE DID HAVE A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT BITUMINOUS ROADWAYS INC. AND THIS CONTRACT AT COMMITTEE AND I KNOWHAT THE INTERSECTIONS OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND OTHER CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITY ARE SORT OF PRESENT ON THIS ISSUE. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE THAT CONTEXT FOR MY COLLEAGUES. I ASK STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. I'M ALSO HAPPY TO REMOVE THE REPORT MINUS ITEM 11 IF THAT IS HELPFUL TO THE BODY. [36:36] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON. AND IF I UNDERSTAND, ARE YOU -- THE PERSON TO -- TO TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 11? [36:52] Jeremiah Ellison: YEAH. I THINK THERE WILL BE SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION ON ITEM 1. OR A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION. AND I'M HAPPY TO MOVE THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE. [36:52] Andrea Jenkins: COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON HAS MOVED THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT MINUS ITEM NUMBER 11. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I GUESS I WILL JUST ASK, IF THE DISCUSSION IS RELATED TO ITEM NUMBER 11 MAYBE WE CAN HOLD THAT UNTIL WE TAKE THE CMITTEE REPORT. OKAY COUNCILMEMBER GOODMAN. [37:26] Elizabeth Goodman: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT ITEM NUMBER FOUR. IT'S AN AGREEMENT WITH XCEL TO PURCHASE RENEWABLE ENERGY. AND I DO THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. THIS IS JUST A NOTE OF CAUTION TO MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THERE WAS A BIG STORY TODAY IN THE PAPER ABOUT XCEL'S UNWILLINGNESS TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL TRANSMISSION SPACE FOR INDIVIDUALSND SOLAR GARDENS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE GRID. AND WHILE IT'S GREAT THAT WE ARE PAYING XCEL TO GIVE US CLEAN ENERGY, THE BETTER AND MORE APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO IT WOULD BE ALLOW FOR MORE DISTRIBUTIVE ENERGY. WHAT THAT MEANS IS, MORE INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE, AS WELL AS SCHOOLS AND FIRE HOUSES AND CITY BUILDINGS HAVING THEIR OWN SOURCE OF [38:13] Elizabeth Goodman: SOLAR. SO WE END UP PAYING MORE TO THEM TO USE THE SOLAR THAT THEY ARE GENERATING AT THE SAME TIME THEY ARE KEEPING A lot OF PEOPLE OUT OF THE SYSTEM BY SUGGESTING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TRANSMISSION SPACE FOR ALL OF THESE SOLAR GARDENS AND ALL OF THESE GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO ADD TO THE DISTRIBUTION NETWORK. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS IN ORDER TO MEET OUR OWN RENEWABLE ENERGY GOAL. I WANT TO PUT IN A PITCH FOR SOMEONE OTHER THAN COUNCILMEMBER CHUGHTAI OR MYSELF TO STAND UP FOR THE IDEA THAT DISTRIBUTED ELECTRIC, MEANING GENERATED BY INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS, GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS, IS THE BEST WAY TO A CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE. BECAUSE IT ALLOWS EVERYBODY TO GENERATE AS MUCH ENERGY AS THEY CAN ON THEIR OWN AND NOT BE AS RELIANT ON THE UTILITIES. I WOULD URGE FOLKS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE STORY IN THE PAPER THIS MORNING. WE HAVE A LOT OF CONNECTION ISSUES IN THE CITY ITSELF. IT TOOK OVER A YEAR FOR THE CITY'S NEW PUBLIC SERVICE BUILDING TO BE INTERCONNECTED TO THE GRID. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS VERY FRUSTRATING TO THIS NEW INDUSTRY THAT IS CREATING GREEN JOBS BY ALLOWING FOR INDIVIDUALS TO GET INVOLVED IN SOLAR. BUT IF XCEL WILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO CONNECT TO THE GRID, THEN IT'S A STEP BACKWDS, NOT A STE FORWARDS. THANK YOU. [39:32] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER GOODMAN. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY, IS IT RELATED TO ITEM NUMBER 11 NO SEPARATE. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [39:50] Robin Wonsley: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PULL ITEM 15. [39:50] Andrea Jenkins: COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY HAS REQUESTED TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 15. AND THE CHAIR WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. [40:06] Michael Rainville: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WANT TO HAVE A BRIEF COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE FOR MY COLLEAGUES TO BRING THEM UP TO DATE. I SERVE ON THE HERITAGE BOARD AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS BODY. AND THE GOOD NEWS IS, THE NONPROFIT GROUP THAT IS MANAGING THIS TRANSITION FROM THE FALLS, LOCKS, AND DAM INTO A MORE PUBLIC USE, IS A BOARD THAT IS A MAJORITY NATIVE AND LED BY SHELLY BOOK FROM THE PRAIRIE ISLAND TRIBE. SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THATITE, WE WILL HAVE A VERY, VERY STRONG NATIVE PRESENCE THERE LED BY THE NATIVE COMMUNITY. THIS IS A VERY GOOD THING FOR THAT RIVER FRONT. THANK YOU. [40:45] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT. IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING IN THE WORKS. SO THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE UP THE POGO COMMITTEE REPORT MINUS ITEMS NUMBER 11 AND 15. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. [41:22] Casey Carl: JOHNSON. AYE OSMAN. AYE. PAYNE. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. ELLISON. AYE. VETAW. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. AYE. PRESIDENT JENKINS. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES. [41:22] Andrea Jenkins: THAT CARRIES AND NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 11. WHICH IS THE BITUMINOUS ROADWAY ITEM, I BELIEVE. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. [41:46] Jason Chavez: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT JENKINS. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM. ESPECIALLY WITH THE RECENT NEWS COMING OUT OF THE SMITH FOUNDRY THEY FOUND SEVERAL VIOLATIONS OF THE CLEAN AIR ACT. IT STATED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS THE FOUNDRY ADMITTED THE DOUBLE AMOUNT OF PARTICLE POLLUTION ALLOWED THAT HAD LED TO LEAD EMISSIONS THAT CAN DANGER HUMAN HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT. THIS CONTRACT HAS CAUSED A LOT OF CONCERNS FOR THE COMMUNITY I REPRESENT AND RIGHT NEXT TO THIS FOUNDRY. WHILE NOT THE SAME COMPANY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE AS A CITY WE ARE ENSURING THIS GREEN ZONE IS BEING PROTECTED FROM ADDITIONAL POTENTIAL POLLUTION BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. I HOPE MOVING FORWARD IN THE NEXT TERM, WE CAN WORK ON OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO ENSURE GREEN ZONES ARE BEING CONSIDERED MOVING FORWARD. [42:30] Jason Chavez: I ATTENDED A LITTLE MEETING LAST NIGHT WHERE THEY SCARED FOR THEIR BAWDIES, -- SCARED FOR THEIR BABIES AND SCARED FOR THOSE AROUND THEM. I DO -- THE JOURNAL HAD AN ARTICLE THAT HAS CALLED THESE SITES INDUSTRIAL POLLUTION SOURCES. SO I'M JUST GIVING MY REASONING FOR VOTING NO TODAY. [42:54] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ -- COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON. [43:41] Jeremiah Ellison: THANK YOU. WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF AIR QUALITIES ON THE NORTH SIDE, AS WELL. I KNOW THERE IS A GROWING UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT ONE INDUSTRY WILL HAVE, BUT IT CAN BE ABOUT THE CUMULATIVE IMPACT THAT A CONCENTRATION OF POLITICAL INDUSTRIES WILL HAVE. AND SO I THIN THAT COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ'S WORDS ARE APT AND NOBODY IS ACCUSING BITUMINOUS OF ANYTHING. I THINK THE CUMULATIVE IMPACTS, WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY FOR HOW WE ASSESS THAT WHEN WE ARE CONSIDERING THESE CONTRACTS. AND SO I WAS GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ITEM AT $48,000. I FELT LIKE IT WAS A DROP IN THE BUCKET TO HELP US FINISH SOME OF THIS ROAD WORK THAT WE HAVE. I UNDERSTAND WE DO NEED TO FINISH THE ROAD WORK THAT WE HAVE, BUT I DO WANT TO JOIN WITH MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMEMBER VA CHAVEZ STANDING UP WITH HIS COMMUNITY AND I WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT, AS WELL. [44:03] Jeremiah Ellison: IT'S A DIFFICULT ISSUE BUT UNDERSTAND WHEN TALKING WITH CONSTITUENTS WHEN THEY ARE DEALING WITH CUMULATIVE IMPACTS IS SOMETHING THAT RESONATES WITH ME. AND I DON'T SEE THIS IN ANY WAY. STAFF HAS FOLLOWED THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO GET ROADWAY DONE. THE WORK IS ABOVE BOARD AND I WILL JET MAT. BUT THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS ARE LEGITIMATE ALSO. I JUST WANTED VOE THAT. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. [44:30] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. [44:59] Linea Palmisano: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I APOLOGIZE I'M COMING INTO THIS LATE BECAUSE I WASN'T ABLE TO WATCH THE POGO COMMITTEE. I KNOW WE HAVE TRIED IN OUR PROCUREMENT IN THE PAST TO SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDE GREEN ZONES. RIGHT? THINGS COMING FROM OUR GREEN ZONES. AND WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IS NOT LEGAL. THAT WE CAN'T DO TT. BUT I AM CURIOUS WHAT OTHER KINDS OF THINGS WE CAN DO. I CAN ALSO APPRECIATE THAT DESPITE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE HUGELY LARGE NUMBERS FROM PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE, BUT IT IS LESS THAN A 5% INCREASE TO THIS CONTRACT. [45:17] Linea Palmisano: THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS USED TO BE ABLE TO DO WITHOUT EVEN TELLING US. I APPRECIATE THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS. I SEE THERE IS CITY STAFF IN THE AUDIENCE, WHAT IMPACT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE. MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS FOR THE SOMETHING WE CAN GO OUT AND BID THIS ABOUT ANYTHING NEXT YEAR. I THINK IF WE ARE NOT BUYING THIS MATERIAL, I ASSUME SOMEBODY ELSE IS. BUT WOULD YOU BE WILLING, MADAM CHAIR, TO YIELD TO A QUESTION FROM STAFF ABOUT WHAT IMPACT THIS WOULD HAVE? I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS FROM CONSTITUENTS AND COMMUNITY. [46:00] Andrea Jenkins: YES, PLEASE. I WOULD INVITE STAFF TO DISCUSS THIS. WHAT THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS COULD BE. [46:15] Don Elwood: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M DON ELLWOOD. THIS CONTRACT FALLS WITHIN MY DIVISION. IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION CORRECTLY, WHAT WILL NOT GET DONE IF THIS ACTION DOES NOT PASS. I HAVE A LIST OF SOME SPECIFIC PROJECTS. MAYBE THE LARGEST ONE IS SECOND STREET NORTH NEAR PLYMOUTH AVENUE RIG NOW IS CLOSED. THAT PROJECT WOULD THEN NOT GET COMPLETED. MOST OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS ARE UTILITY CUT RELATED. WHEN OUR UTILITIES COME IN THEY UPGRADE THEIR FACILITIES, WE COME IN AND PUT THE FINAL ASPHALT ON TOP. 52ND, 53rd IS ANOTHER SPECIFIC EXAMPLE OF THINGS THAT WOULD NOT GET ACCOMPLISHED. [47:09] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, MR. ELLWOOD. I SEE COUNCILMEMBER WONEY IN QUEUE. [47:27] Robin Wonsley: THANK YOU, MAD AT -- MADAM PRESIDENT. I RAISE THIS IN COMMITTEE AND BUILDS UPON WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ MENTIONED. THERE IS A PATHWAY TO REVISIT OUR PROCUREMENT POLICIES AROUND THIS MATTER, BUT THIS IS REALLY A LEGISLATIVE ACTION WE NEED TO TAKE UP. AND I THINK OUR CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN GIVES US SPACE. ESPECIALLY AROUND PAGE 29 OF IT WHERE IT LITERALLY NAMES THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MITIGATING REDUCING ANALYZING R POLLUTION AND THE CON TRACE OF THAT, ESPECIALLY IN OUR GREEN ZONE AREAS. [47:53] Robin Wonsley: IT HIGHLIGHTS WE SHOULD BE ANALYZING AMONGST COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL SPACES WHERE THAT POLLUTION IS ALSO BEING TARGETED. SO IT'S VERY CLEAR THERE IS A WAY TO USE OR LEVERAGE OUR CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN TO TAKE SOME MORE DIRECTED ACTION OR LEGISLATIVE ACTION TO GET AT WHAT WOULD ALSO NAME COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON RAISED IN TERMS OF THE CUMULATIVE IMPACTS POLLUTION THAT WE KNOW CERTAIN PARTICIPANTS OR INDUSTRIAL COMPANIES ARE EMITTING IN OUR COMMUNITIES. I JUST WANT TO NAME THAT IS ANOTHER PATHWAY FORWARD. I'M IN CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ ABOUT THAT. AND I KNOW IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, KNOWING THAT THIS [48:39] Robin Wonsley: IS A SUBSTANTIAL JUMP OR AN INCREASE AND WITHOUT ALSO DOING THAT FURTHER ANALYSIS, WE NEED TO BE COMPLEMENTING ANY TYPE OF PROTOURMENT OR BIDS WITH THAT -- PROCUREMENT OR BIDS WITH THAT TYPE OF ANALYSIS. SO COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ AND ELLISON, AND MANY OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT REPRESENT THE GREEN ZONES CAN SAY THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, BUT THE CITY IS TAKING THIS TYPE OF LEGISLATIVE RECOURSE TO MITIGATE THE HARMFUL OUTCOMES OF US CONTINUING TO PARTNER WITH POLLUTERS. SO I JUST WANTED TO NAME THAT ALSO CAME UP IN OUR CONVERSATIONS IN POGO AROUND THIS ITEM. [49:23] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. [50:08] LaTrisha Vetaw: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT I GUESS I NEED SOME CLARITY. BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE A VOTE NO SENDS A SIGNAL THAT WE HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE TO ASPHALT. AND I'M NOT AWARE OF ONE. AND SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE THAT WE COULD BE USING INSTEAD OF THIS. I JUST THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE -- WHAT IS THE MATERIAL THAT WE COULD USE INSTEAD OF THIS, AND WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH TIME IN MINNESOTA TO GET POTHOLES FILLED BEFORE SNOW FALLS AND IT'S A WAY WORSE SITUATION WHEN IT MELTS IN THE SPRING. SO I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF CAN ANSWER THAT OR COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ -- LOOKS LIKE ELLISON, BUT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE ALTERNATIVE TO ASPHALT. [50:40] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. AND TO ADD TO THAT QUESTION, ARE THERE OTHER SOURCES, OTHER VENDORS OF ASPHALE MR. ELLWOOD YOU CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. [50:40] Jeremiah Ellison: REAL QUICK BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR DOWN A RABBIT HOLE, I WANT TO SAY, I DON'T THINK THERE IS A QUESTION OF ALTERNATE MATERIAL OTHER THAN BITUMINOUS, THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS IF THERE IS A CONCENTRATION OF USES. AND THE QUESTION OF OTHER VENDORS. THERE ARE OTHER VENDORS O BITUMINOUS. SO THERE IS NO QUESTION OF MATERIAL. I DON'T WANT US TO GO DOWN A RABBIT HOLE OF IS THERE OTHER MATERIAL. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE QUESTION AT HAND. [51:17] LaTrisha Vetaw: OKAY. SO WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION A LITTLE EARLIER IN THE YEAR. I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS THIS CONTRACT OR IF IT WAS VOTING ON, BUT ORIGINAL CONTRACT. AND TO MY RECOLLECTION, IT WAS ABOUT SHAKOPEE OR ST. PAUL HAD THE PLANS. THAT IS ANOTHER ENVIRONMTA ISSUE IF WE ARE TRAVELING THROUGH THE CITIES AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THIS. I MEAN, I RECALL US TALKING ABOUT THIS AND, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOME OPTIONS. BUT THIS CONVERSATION, IN PARTICULAR, ON THIS ITEM, IT FEELS LIKE IT'S CONFUSING TO THE PUBLIC. THAT WE HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE HERE OR THAT SOMETHING DIFFERENT CAN HAPPEN. AND IT'S JUST NOT TRUE. [52:00] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. AND COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE SHARED YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM; RIGHT? COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. [53:04] Linea Palmisano: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AGAIN, I WANT TO KEEP FACTS IN THIS DEBATE AND I'M CONCERNED THAT EVEN IF WE TAKE THIS ACTION TODAY, THAT IS NOT GOING TO DECREASE THE PRODUCTION OF ASPHALT AT THIS FACILITY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS AN APPROPRIATE QUESTION FOR STAFF OR NOT. I DON'T THINK THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE OUTPUT OF ASPHALT AT THIS FACILITY. I THINK IT JUST MEANS THAT SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO BUY IT. AND I ALSO THINK THAT WE CANNOT PURCHASE THIS ELSEWHERE BY CTRACT. THEY WON THE BID THIS YEAR AND AFTER THIS YEAR THAT WHOLE THING CHANGES AND WE CAN GO THROUGH AND TRY AND RECONFIGURE OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESSES TO GIVE A LOT MORE WEIGHT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS RIGHT IN THIS COMMUNITY. BUT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ONE, THIS IS NOT GOING TO DECREASE THE ASPHALT IN OUR CITY AND THAT TWO, WE CANNOT PURCHASE THIS ELSEWHERE. NEXT YEAR THAT COMPLETELY CHANGES. THANK YOU. [53:24] Andrea Jenkins: COUNCILMEMBER VET. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. [53:24] Michael Rainville: THANK YOU. MY SPEAKER IS NOT WORKING. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ, THIS IS IN MY WARD. THE AREA THAT WILL NOT GET PAVED ON SECOND STREET NORTH. SO A MAJOR ROUTE INTO NORTH MINNEAPOLIS FROM WARD THREE. SO I WILL BE VOTING FOR THIS. I SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU AND AGREE WITH YOU 100%. THE SOLUTION IS TO GO TO THE STATE AND HELP THEM -- GET THEIR HELP. JUST LIKE WITH THE ROOF DEPOT. TO GET THESE POLLUTING SOURCES OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND, I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR MY WARD TO FINISH THAT PROJECT. AS COUNCILMEMBER VETAW SAID, IF WE DON'T PAVE THIS BEFORE THE WINTER, IT'S GOING TO BE A MESS IN THE SPRING. THANK YOU. [54:10] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM 11. SEEING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. [54:42] Casey Carl: OSMAN. NO. PAYNE. NAY. KOSKI. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. CHAVEZ. NO. ELLISON. NO. VETAW. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. NAY. PALMISANO. AYE. PRESIDENT JENKINS. AYE. THERE ARE SEVEN AYES. [54:42] Andrea Jenkins: THAT CARRIES AND WE MOVE TO AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK UNIVERSITY REIMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY POLICING PROJECT. AND I BELIEVE COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY PULLED THAT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK NO THIS ITEM -- SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? [55:54] Robin Wonsley: YES. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK UP. MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE PERSON TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION. WE DID RECEIVE THIS PUBLIC COMMENT LETTER ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT WHERE WE ARE DOING A SINGLE SOURC CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK UNIVERSITY. I BELIEVE DR. OFFTILLLY'S RESEARCH ORGANIZATION IS GOING TO BE VOTED INTO THAT. BUT THE PUBLIC COMMENT DID RAISE THIS QUESTION OF ARE WE CIRCUMVENTING OUR PROCUREMENT PRACTICES IN ORDER TO DO THE SINGLE SOURCE CONTRACT? SO I AT LEAST WANTED TO GET CLARITY ON THAT, TRANSPARENCY ON THAT FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE THAT WE ARE GOING ABOUT PROCUREMENT PRACTICES APPROPRIATELY IN ORDER TO PURSUE THIS CONTRACT. [56:21] Kristyn Anderson: COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY, COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE HAVE LOOKED ADD THIS. WE THINK IT'S LEGITIMATE I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT ANYMORE DETAIL THAN THAT. WE BELIEVE IT'S A LEGITIMATE SINGLE SOURCE. [56:45] Robin Wonsley: IT MEANS WE WOULD NOT PURSUE A COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS? BECAUSE WHAT THEY ALSO RACED -- ALSO RAISED, TO DO A SINGLE SOURCE YOU HAD TO BE A REGISTERED CPV. BUT SINCE WE ARE DOING A SINGLE SOURCE, WE ARE BASICALLY WORKING AROUND THAT. [57:14] Kristyn Anderson: LEGITIMATELY SO. THERE ARE RULES AROUND SINGLE SOURCE AND WE'VE BEEN EVALWAITED THIS -- EVALUATED THIS AND THINK IT QUALIFIES FOR SINGLE SOURCE. [57:14] Robin Wonsley: OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO HAVE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS ON THIS. THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO REVISIT WITH PROCUREMENT NEXT YEAR IN TERMS OF PEOPLE WANT TO SHOW THAT WORD USING OUR PROCUREMENT PRACTICES AND BIDDING PROCESSES DEMONSTRATING TH WE ARE DOING IT IN THE FAIR AND DEMOCRATIC FASHION. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY ITEMS. SO DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO KEEP AN EYE ON FOR NEXT YEAR. BUT AT LEAST I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC COMMENT LETTER THAT WAS SHARED WITH US. THANK YOU. [57:14] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM 15? SEEING NONE, CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. [57:52] Casey Carl: JOHNSON. AYE. OSMAN. AYE. PAYNE. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. ELLISON. AYE. VETAW. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. AYE. PRESIDENT JENKINS. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES. [57:52] Andrea Jenkins: THAT CARRIES AND THAT COMPLETES OUR POLICY AND OVERSIGHT GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE REPORT. OUR NEXT REPORT IS THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY REPORT PRESENTED BY THE CHAIR. COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. [58:16] LaTrisha Vetaw: THANK YOU MADAM PRESIDENT. BRINGING FORWARD SIX ITEMS. ITEM ONE IS ACCEPTING A GRANT FROM THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH TO PROVIDE PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES. ITEM TWO IS AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY MATCH FOR WORK ON THE HEALTHY FAMILIES COMMUNITY BASED PER NATAL HEALTH INITIATIVE PROJECT. ITEM THREE IS AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT WITH HELIX HEALTH TO PROVIDE TEMPORARY HOUSING, SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT. ITEM FOUR IS AUTHORIZING A DECREASE TO A CONTRACT WITH THE MINNESO BCA FOR THE SEXUAL ASSAULT INITIATIVE KIT GRANT PROGRAM. [58:55] LaTrisha Vetaw: ITEM FIVE IS AUTHORIZING A DECREASE TO A CONTRACT WITH THE SEXUAL VIOLENCE CENTER FOR THE SEXUAL ASSAULT INITIATIVE KIT PROGRAM. AND ITEM SIX IS AUTHORIZING AN INCREASE TO THE CONTRACT WITH THE HENNEPIN COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THE SEXUAL ASSAULT INITIATIVE KIT PROGRAM. I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THESE ITEMS. [59:17] Andrea Jenkins: I'M SORRY. COUNCILMEMBER VETAW HAS MOVED THAT COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. [59:48] Casey Carl: COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. AYE. OSMAN. AYE. PAYNE. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. ELLISON. AYE. VETAW. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. AYE. PRESIDENT JENKINS. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES. [59:48] Andrea Jenkins: THAT CARRIES AND THAT COMMITTEE REPORT IS ADOPTED. AND OUR NEXT COMMITTEE REPORT IS THE PUBLIC WORKS AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE. AND THAT REPORT WILL BE PRESENTED BY THE COMMITTEE'S VICE CHAIR COUNCILMEMBER CHUGHTAI. [1:00:12] Aisha Chughtai: THANK YOU. THE PUBLIC WORKS AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD SIX ITEMS THAT WE WILL BE RECOMMENDING FOR APPROVAL. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS AUTHORIZING LICENSE AGREEMENTS WITH UP TO THREE VENDORS FOR THE 2024 SHARED BIKE AND SCOOTER PROGRAM. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS AUTHORIZING THE SUBMITTAL OF GRANT APPLICATIONS FOR THE 2024 METROPOLIT COUNCIL REGIONAL SOLICITATION FOR TROPICAL STORM FUNDS. -- FOR TRANSPORTATION FUNDS. ITEM THREE IS -L GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE LOCAL ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS AUTHORIZING A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE MINNEAPOLIS PARK AND RECREATION BOARD FOR OPERATION OF A STREETCAR SYSTEM ON CITY PROPERTY. ITEM FIVE IS AUTHORIZING A JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT AMENDMENT WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBIA HEIGHTS FOR THE [1:01:00] Aisha Chughtai: 37th AVENUE NORTHEAST STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTND APOVING THE APPROPRIATION FUNDS. AND FINALLY ITEM NUMBER SIX IS AUTHORIZING FUNDING AGREEMENTS NUMBER 10 AND 11 WITH THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL TO REIMBURSE THE CITY FOR COSTS INCURRED FOR THE METRO GREEN LINE EXTINCTION. I WILL MOVE -- EXTENSION. I WILL MOVE APPROVAL. [1:01:26] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. [1:01:59] Casey Carl: COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. OSMAN. AYE. PAYNE. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. ELLISON. AYE. VETAW. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. AYE. PRESIDENT JENKINS. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES. [1:01:59] Andrea Jenkins: THAT CARRIES AND THAT COMMITTEE'S REPORT IS ADOPTED. BEFORE WE MOVE TO OUR NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, I DO WANT TO RETURN TO THE BIZ COMMITTEE ITEM NUMBER 18. I BELIEVE WE DO NOW HAVE MR. JASON WHITENBERG HERE. I WOULD INVITE YOU TO APPROACH THE PODIUM TO DISCUSS THE BUILDING EXTERIOR ORDINANCE. [1:02:17] Jason Wittenberg: THANK YOU. SORRY I WASN'T IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE. I MADE IT OVER AS QUICKLY AS I COULD. I'M PARTICULAR WITH THE ISSUE. I DID RESPOND TO COMMISSIONER MEYER PERSONALLY. ON A KIND OF POINT-BY-POINT BASIS. FIRS THE PROCEDURAL QUESTION THAT WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHY THE LANGUAGE WAS QUOTE, PUT BACK TO THE VERSION IN FRONT OF YOU. [1:03:12] Jason Wittenberg: A PRACTICE FOR ITEMS THAT COME THROUGH THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION IS THAT THE VERSION IS CENTERED IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDED VERSION. YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS ALL IN FRONT OF YOU. BUT IT'S THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT IS PRIMARILY UP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. SO THAT IS WHY THAT LANGUAGE WAS THERE IN FRONT OF YOU. SECOND, WE WILL HAD CONCERNS WOULD BE UNDER COMMISSIONERE MEYER'S PROPOSAL TO ELIMINATE THE SECOND SENTENCE FROM THAT PROVISION. COMMISSIONER MEYER SUGGESTED THAT WE USE LANGUAGE DIRECTLY FROM MINNEAPOLIS 2040 ABOUT COMPATIBILITY OF RELATED MATERIALS ON ALL SIDES. THAT LANGUAGE IS VAGUE AND IS SUFFICIENT FOR POLICY DOCUMENT LIKE MINNEAPOLIS 2040 BUT IS IN OUR ESTIMATION INSUFFICIENT FOR AN ORDINANCE WHERE WE EXPECT CONSISTENT INTERPRETATION AMONG AFF, AMONG ARCHITECTS, DEVELOPERS, ET CETERA. SO WE THINK THAT SECOND PART THAT TALKS ABOUT CONSISTENT MATERIALS ON ALL SIDES IS CRITICAL. I [1:04:00] Jason Wittenberg: GUESS THE FINAL POINT I WOULD MAKE, WE RECEIVED A lot OF TESTIMONY ABOUT THE MATERIALS ORDINANCE GENERALLY. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS A SINGLE PIECE OF TESTIMONY THAT SPOKE TO CONCERNS ABOUT THE STAFF LANGUAGE THAT COMMISSIONER MEYER IS ASKING TO REMOVE. IN FACT, WE SPOKE WITH DEVELOPERS BOTH AFFORDABLE AND MARKET RATE DEVELOPERS AND THEY SIMPLY CONSIDER THI A BEST PRACTICE TO CONSISTENTLY DESIGN A BUILDING ON ALL SIDES. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS GENERALLY CONTROVERSIAL. AND ALONG THOSE LINES IN MINNEAPOLIS 2040, WE ARE NOW EXPECTING THAT MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS WILL ACCEPT A LARGER BUILDING'S CONSTRUCTED NEXT TO THEM AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY EASIER TO GAIN THAT [1:04:48] Jason Wittenberg: ACCEPTANCE IF THE HIGH QUALITY MATERIALS ARE FOCUSED ON THE FRONT OF A BUILDING WITH LESSER QUALITY MATERIALS FACING THOSE RESIDENTS. WITHHAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS. [1:05:04] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. AND I SEE IN QUEUE COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. [1:05:25] Andrew Johnson: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE MR. WHITENBERG TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND I WILL NOTE THAT ON MULTIPLE ITEMS, COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RAISE QUESTIONS AND ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF. AND THOSE HAVE REMAINED CIVIL, AS WELL. I HOPE THAT IS THE CASE WITH THIS, AS WELL. MR. WHITENBERG, HOW MANY OTHER AMENDMENTS DID THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE TO THIS ITEM? THEY REMOVED ORIGINALLY THAT LANGUAGE 9.0, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, ARE THERE OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT THEY ALSO MADE THAT IS NOT BEFORE US TODAY? AND IF SO HOW MANY? [1:06:21] Jason Wittenberg: PRESIDENT JENKINS, COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON, THERE WERE A HANDFUL OF AMENDMENTS RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMISSION. ESSENTIALLY, IN STAFF'S ESTITION THE AMENDMENTS THAT ELUDED MUCH OF THE ORDINANCE TO THE EXTENT THAT WE RECOMMEND THAT MUCH OF THAT BE ELIMINATED ALL TOGETHER. AND WE FOCUSED ON A FEW PIECES THAT WERE LARGELY NONCONTROVERSIAL AND HAVE ADVANCED THOSE IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL. [1:06:43] Andrew Johnson: THANK YOU. AND WHEN THIS WAS IN COMMITTEE, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS WHEN THERE IS A DIVERGENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AMENDS AND WHAT STAFF ARE BRGI FORWARD AND THAT IS IN FRONT OF COMMITTEE? IS THERE A PRESENTATION ON THOSE DIFFERENCES AND DISCUSSION ON THOSE DIFFERENCES THAT HAPPENS? [1:06:43] Jason Wittenberg: SURE. COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON, THE AMENDMENTS ARE IN THE PACKETS I OFFERED FOR THE COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THOSE IN DETAIL. I WASN'T TAKEN UP ON THAT OFFER. [1:07:00] Andrew Johnson: AND WHEN YOU SAY YOU OFFERED, IS THAT IN AGENDA SETTING? [1:07:00] Jason Wittenberg: RIGHT IN COMMITTEE I MADE THAT OFFER TO GO THROUGH IN DETAIL THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS. [1:07:47] Andrew Johnson: THANK YOU. AND THEN IF I GENERALLY UNDERSTAND AT LEAST FOR THIS COMMISSIONER'S CONCERNS THAT IS BEING RAISED, IS THE CONCERN THAT IF -- LET'S SAY WITH HIS LANGUAGE PROPOSAL, THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING MIGHT BE -- I'M JUST GOING TO THROW AN ARBITRARY. GRADE A MATERIAL, BUT THEN WE MIGHT END UP WITH GRADE C AROUND THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING UNDER HIS PROPOSED CHANGE, SO A IN THE FRONT, C OUND THE SIDES AND IF WE WERE TO GO WITH, HIS CONCERN WOULD BE THIS VERSION, THAT WE WOULD END UP WITH GRADE B MATERIAL IN THE FRONT AND C AROUND THE SIDES. IS THAT A FAIR INTERPRETATION? [1:08:33] Jason Wittenberg: I THINK THAT IS A FAIR INTERPRETATION. AGAIN, THE LANGUAGE THAT THE COMMISSION HAD RECOMMENDED IS SO VAGUE THAT I GUESS EVERYONE COULD INTERPRET DIFFERENTLY WHAT COMPATIBILITY MEANS. SOME PEOPLE MIGHT INTERPRET THAT TO MEAN THAT IT HAS TO BE THE SAM MATERIAL ON ALL SIDES. SOME PEOPLE MIGHT THINK THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING CAN BE BRICK AND THE SIDES COULD BE METAL, FOR EXAMPLE. OUR STRONG PREFERENCE IS TO CLARIFY WHAT WE MEAN BY COMBAT PAT -- COMPATIBILITY. [1:09:09] Andrew Johnson: AND MY UNDERSTANDING THE INTENT BEING RAISED HERE, IT WOULD BE SIMILAR MATERIALS. THE PRIMARY CONCERN IS REALLY VAGUENESS OF THIS. OR AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN -- AT INTERPRETING. DO YOU SEE ANY WAY YOU CAN ADDRESS WHAT CAN BE THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF DETAIL IN HERE THAT WE COULD NOT -- THAT WE COULD AVOID SEEING A WATER WATERING DOWN OF THE QUALITY IN THE FRONT OF BUILDINGS? I THOUGH THERE IS A CONCERN RAISED AROUND IMPACTS TO AFFORDABILITY AND OVERALL COST. BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS YOUR TAKE ON IT, IS THERE A SOLUTION TO THIS? [1:09:43] Jason Wittenberg: IN OUR MIND THE LANGUAGE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE SOLUTION TO ADESS THAT. AGAIN, I THINK CLAIMS ABOUT AFFECTS ON AFFORDABILITY ARE LARGELY UNFOUNDED. BECAUSE MOST DEVELOPERS AND ARCHITECTS INCLUDING ON AFFORDABLE PROJECTS ARE ALREADY FOLLOWING THIS GUIDANCE. IT'S HARD TO SAY IT WOULD HAVE AN AFFECT WHEN IT'S ALREADY BEING FOLLOWED IN MOST INSTANCES. [1:09:59] Andrew Johnson: THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE.LY ADD A COMMENT ON HERE. I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK OF STAFF. I KNOW YOU ARE VERY DETAILED ORIENTED ON THIS. I RESPECT ALL OF THAT WORK, AS WELL. AND I RESPECT THE WORK OF OUR PLAIN COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO STAY VERY LATE INTO THE NIGHT DOING THIS WORK. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THEM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE RESPECTFUL OF OF THAT COMMITMENT, AS WELL. WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO DO AND APPOINTED THEM TO DO THAT WORK. THANK YOU. AND BY THE WAY, THAT COMMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU MR. WHITENBERG, YOU HAVE BEEN NOTHING BUT RESPECTFUL WHEN TALKING ABOUT THEM. I APPRECIATE THAT. [1:10:23] Jason Wittenberg: THANK YOU. [1:10:41] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM NUMBER 18 FROM THE BIZ COMMITTEE? SEEING NONE, I WILL NOW ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [1:10:57] Casey Carl: COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. AYE. OSMAN. AYE. PAYNE. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. ELLISON. AYE. VETAW. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE VICE PRESIDENT PALMISA. AYE. PRESIDENT JENKINS. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES. [1:11:14] Andrea Jenkins: THAT CARRIES AND THAT COMPLETES THE BIZ COMMITTEE REPORT. THANK YOU MR. WHITENBERG FOR MAKING THE TREK OVER HERE. AND COLLEAGUES, NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE NOTICE OF ORDINANCE INTRODUCTIONS. AND THERE IS ONE NOTICE BY COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY TO AMEND TITLE XII THEHOUSE -- THE HOUSING CODE. THAT NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN AND NO FURTHER ACTION IS REQUIRED AT THIS TIME. NEXT WE HAVE THE INTRODUCTION -- [1:11:39] Robin Wonsley: MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. REALLY EXCITED TO GIFFORD NANCE FOR THIS -- TO GIVE NOTICE FOR THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE. LAST YEAR NUMEROUS RESIDENTS REACHED OUT TO MY OFFICE EXPRESSING FRUSTRATION WITH VACANT BUILDINGS. AND THE IMPACTS IN OUR COMMUNITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE VACANT BUILDINGS HOLD. THEY'VE SHARED THAT VACANT BUILDINGS HURTHE VIBRANCY AND SAFETY OF OUR COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS AND HOW RESIDENTIAL VACANCY IS A HUGE MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS OUR HOUSING CRISIS. SINCE THEN RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN BEGAN TO ORGANIZE AROUND VACANT PROPERTIES AND FORMED A COALITION SUPPORTING FEES. [1:13:05] Robin Wonsley: INSPIRED BY A lot OF THE ACTIVE ORGANIZING FROM THOSE CONSTITUENTS, I AUTHOR A LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE TO LOOK AT HOW THE CITY COULD IMPROVE THE CURRENT SYSTEM FROM TRACKING VACANT PROPERTIES AND INCENTIVIZING LANDLORDS TO ACTIVATE THEM. AND IT'S NOW CLEAR THAT THERE IS IMMEDIATE ACTION THAT COUNCIL CAN PURSUE TO INCREASE FINANCIAL PENALTIES ON LANDLORDS THAT KEEP THEIR PROPERTIES VACANT FOR EXCESSIVE PERIODS OF TIME. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH MY COLLEAGUES FOR BRINGING FORWARD A POLICY. THAT CHEER IS ONE OF MANY THAT I HOPE WE CAN COLLABORATE ON IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR RESIDENTS ARE ACTIVATG OUR EXISTINGRE WE HOUSING UNITS AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES FOR THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT FOR OUR COMMUNITIES AND RESIDENTS. SO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. [1:13:26] Elizabeth Goodman: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I'M PLEASED THAT COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY IS BRINGING THIS FORWARD. WE HAD A LENGTHY CONVERSATION IN COMMITTEE ABOUT THIS ISSUE. AND I BELIEVE FIVE OF THE SIX MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE SPOKE ON THIS ISSUE AND THERE WAS VIOLENT AGREEMENT THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING AND WE FELT REALLY SUPPORTED BY STAFF. MR. HILLDON IN PARTICULAR THAT GAVE US A PATHWAY FORWARD. KUDOS TO YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP. I HOPE THIS IS SOMETHING THE NEXT COUNCIL WILL WORK ON RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE NOT EVEN RECOUPING OUR COSTS. AND THAT IS THE KEY ISSUE HERE. [1:14:06] Elizabeth Goodman: I GAVE AN EXAMPLE IN MY WARD AND I KNOW EVERYONE HAS ONE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY WE DID HAVE A LENGTHY DISCUSSION. BECAUSE IN OUR COMMITTEE, WE HAVE A lot OF ITEMS AND WE OFTEN HAVE LENGTHY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ALL SORTS OF TOPICS, AND THIS O WAS LIKE A HALF AN HOUR. I'M THRILLED YOU WERE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING MOVING SO QUICKLY. [1:14:25] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU BOTH. I HAVE A CLARIFICATION QUESTION. AND MAYBE -- I SEE MR. VELAZQUEZ HERE. DON'T WE HAVE A VACANT FEE OF $6,000? $7,000? OKAY. [1:14:55] Enrique Velazquez: YES, GOOD MORNING, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE CURRENTLY DO HAVE A VACANT BUILDING IN REGISTRY FEE. $7,087. THAT COVERS SOME STAFF TIME TO GO OUT AND DO MONTHLY INSPECTIONS AND IT COVERS SOME OF THE NUANCE ABATEMENT ACTIVITIES. BUT IF PEOPLE WERE TO TRESPASS INTO THOSE PROPERTIES AND THOSE PROPERTIES ARE OPEN TO TRESPASS, THE COST TO CLEAR THOSE SPACES AGAIN TO BOARD THEM UP AGAIN TO RESECURE THEM, THAT IS ABOVE AND BEYOND THE COST O -- THE COST OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE. [1:15:35] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER GOODMAN. THERE IS A SPEAKER MANAGEMENT ISSUE DOWN HERE, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. IT LOOKS LIKE COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON TOO. [1:15:59] LaTrisha Vetaw: THANK YOU. I JUST HAD A CLARIFYING QUESTION ALSO. SO WON'T THIS EXPIRE AT THE END OF THE YEAR? AND WE HAVE TO RE-INTRODUCE AGAIN AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR? [1:16:27] Casey Carl: MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW ACCURATELY POINTS OUT THAT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MEETINGS LEFT IN THE YEAR FOR THE COUNCIL TO TAKE UP ITS NORMAL PROCESS ON MOVING THIS ORDINANCE FORWARD. SO I THINK THAT STAFF IS CERTAINLY AWARE THAT THERE IS A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO HAS MADE A NOTICE. MY EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT WHEN THE CLERK BRINGS FORWARD THE LIST OF EXPIRED ITEMS FROM THIS TERM EARLY NEXT TERM IT WILL BE ROLLED OVER. [1:16:27] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON, DID YOU HAVE -- [1:16:45] Jeremiah Ellison: I WAS JUST GOING TO AFFIRM THAT THE $7,000 COST DOESN'T REALLY COVER IT AND IT'S NOT JUST IF PEOPLE WILL SQUAT IN THESE BUILDINGS, THEY OFTEN DO. AND WE PROBABLY HAVE ALL EXPERIENCED THAT ON SOME LEVEL IN OUR WARDS. PEOPLE LIVING IN BOARDED BUILDINGS. AND IT CAN BE, I'M SURE, INTENSIVE TO GET THOSE FOLKS RESOURCES AND GET THEM CONNECTED TO PLACES WHERE THEY CAN LIVE BUT THEY CAN'T LIVE IN THESE STRUCTURES BECAUSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN OD AND DIE IN THESE STRUCTURES. QUIETLY. AND NOBODY FINDS THEM FOR A LONG TIME. THOSE TYPES OF THINGS DO HAPPEN. THERE ARE EXTREME EXAMPLES, THAT'S ALL I'M POINTING OUT. AND THEN I DO THINK -- I DID APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION FROM STAFF AND AGREE THAT THERE IS PRETTY UNIVERSAL AGREEMENT. I THINK EVEN THOUGH YES THIS WILL EXPIRE AT THE END OF THE YEAR, I THINK WE HAVE A CHANCE TO PROVIDE SOME CONTINUITY AND STAFF KNOWS THERE WILL BE SOME CONTINUITY OF WORK FROM ONE COUNCIL TO THE NEXT. DEFINITELY SUPPORTIVE. THAT'S ALL. [1:17:35] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE THE INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL CALENDAR. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY WILL BE INTRODUCING AND GIVING FIRST READING TO AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE FIRE AND POLICE CODE TO AMEND FOR USE OF CITY OWNED RESOURCES BY EXTERNAL ENTITIES. WHICH WILL BE REFERRED TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COLLEAGUES ON THAT INTRODUCTION? I GUESS I HAVE ONE QUESTION. ARE FIREFIGHTERS USING EQUIPMENT BEYOND THEIR DUTIES? IS THAT AN ISSUE WE'RE TRYING TO RESOLVE? [1:18:16] Robin Wonsley: MADAM PRESIDENT, I CAN PROVIDE CLARITY. THIS IS TIED TO OFF DUTY. SIMILAR TO REGISTRY FEES, IT'S VERY CLEAR FROM ANALYSIS AROUND OFF DUTY, WE HAVE AN ABSENCE OF TRACKING HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW -- HOW MUCH RESOURCES, ESPECIALLY CITY OWNED RESOURCES, ARE BEING USED TO ADMINISTER THAT PROGRAM. THE CHIEF HIMSELF HAS COME FORWARD TO COMMITTEE AS THEY ARE WORKING TO REVAMP THEIR OFF-DUTY SYSTEM AND RECOMMENDED BY THE MDHR AND DOJ REPORTS, WE SHOULD BE CREATING A SYSTEM. AND PART OF THAT IS COLLECTING FEES THAT IS NEEDED TO ADMINISTER THIS PROGRAM. SO THAT WE CAN START DOING MORE REGULATION AND HAVING MORE OVERSIGHT OVER THAT. SO THIS IS, ESSENTIALLY, TO RECOUP WELL, ONE, START TRACKING WHAT ARE THE ACTUAL COSTS? QUANTIFYING THAT. AND TO RECOUP THE COST OF ADMINISTERING THAT PROGRAM. SO THIS IS TIED TO THE OFF-DUTY POLICE PROGRAM. [1:19:25] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. AND THE FIRE THREW ME OFF. SO THANK YOU. SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. [1:19:56] Casey Carl: JOHNSON. AYE. OSMAN. AYE. PAYNE. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. ELLISON. AYE. VETAW. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. AYE. PRESIDENT JENKINS. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES. [1:20:12] Andrea Jenkins: THAT CARRIES AND THE ORDINANCE IS REFERRED TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE IN THE NEXT CYCLE. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS RESOLUTIONS. WE HAVE TWO HONORARY RESOLUTIONS THAT WERE READ AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? REGARDING THOSE RESOLUTIONS. I WILL JUST NOTE THAT MONDAY NOVEMBER 20th IS TRANSGENDER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE. AND SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT THOSE RESOLUTIONS. [1:20:44] Elliott Payne: SO MOVED. [1:20:44] Linea Palmisano: SECOND. [1:20:44] Andrea Jenkins: CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. [1:21:00] Casey Carl: JOHNSON. AYE. OSMAN. AYE. PAYNE. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. ELLISON. AYE. VETAW. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. AYE. PRESIDENT JENKINS. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES. [1:21:25] Andrea Jenkins: THAT CARRIES AND THOSE RESOLUTIONS HAVE BEEN ADOPTED. UNDER NEW BUSINESS WE HAVE THREE ITEMS. THE FIRST RELATES TO DECLARING A VACANCY IN WARD 12. AND I WILL RECOGNIZE THE CLERK MR. CARL TO EXPLAIN THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION BEFORE US ALONG WITH NEXT STEPS. [1:22:00] Casey Carl: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AS EVERYONE IS AWARE, THIS PAST TUESDAY NOVEMBER 7th, THE VOTERS OF MINNEAPOLIS CHOSE THEIR REPRESENTATIVES TO SERVE IN THE NEXT TWO TERMS. THE CITY'S CANVASSING BOARD CERTIFIED THE RESULTS THIS WEEK AND AT THAT TIME AURIN CHOWDHURY WAS DECLARED THE WINNER. AND ON TUESDAY COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON SUBMITTED HIS RESIGNATION. THIS IS A BIT OF AN UNUSUAL PROCESS. IN THE EVENT OF AN EARLY RESIGNATION AS PROVIDED IN SECTION 8.2G1A IN THE CHARTER, THE COUNCIL MUST DETERMINE A VACANCY EXISTS IN THAT SEAT BEFORE WE MOVE FURTHER. ACCORDINGLY STAFF HAVE PREPARED A RESOLUTION THAT MAKES THAT FINDING OF A VACANCY. THAT THEN ALLOWS COUNCILMEMBER-ELECT TO OPT TO SWEAR IN EARLY TO COMPLETE THE UNEXPIREED CURRENT TERM. I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER ELECT. [1:22:36] Casey Carl: COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON HAS MADE IT CLEAR HIS RESIGNATION BECOMET STEPS, WE HAVE THE FORMAL TRANSITION OF THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL FOR ITS 2024-2025 TERM THAT WILL OCCUR AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. UNDER CITY CHARTER, THE NEW COUNCIL WILL BE SWORN INTO OFFICE ON MONDAY, JANUARY 1st. I APPRECIATE IT'S A HOLIDAY. AT WHICH TIME WE WILL ADMINISTER THE OATH TO ALL 13 COUNCIL MEMBERS WHICH DOES INCLUDE COUNCIL MEMBER CHOWDHURY FOR THE NEXT TERM. WE ANTICIPATE THE NEXT COUNCIL WILL CONDUCT ITS ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING ON THE FOLLOWING MONDAY AND DETAILS ABOUT ALL OF THOSE NEXT STEPS WILL BE FINALIZED AND SHARED IN THE COMING WEEKS. I'M SURE COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON MAY WISH TO MAKE SOME FAREWELL EVENT WHICHS TODAY. BUT I WILL ALSO NOTE IT'S BY LONG STANDING TRADITION THE COUNCIL HONORS AND RECOGNIZEING MEMBERS AT THE FINAL MEETING OF THE YEAR. AND WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON AT THAT TIME. [1:23:46] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, MR. CLERK. AND CERTAINLY WE WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON IF HE SO CHOOSES. HOWEVER, AT THIS POINT WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ IN QUEUE. [1:24:10] Jason Chavez: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT JENKINS. I HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING PROCEDURE ON ITEMS TWO AND THREE. WOULD LIKE TO PULL THOSE OUT FOR DISCUSSION. [1:24:10] Andrea Jenkins: OH YEAH, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THOSE YET. I HAVE A QUESTION. SO WILL COUNCIL MEMBER ELECT BE CONSIDERED SERVING TWO TERMS? [1:24:38] Casey Carl: COUNCIL PRESIDENT, SHE WILL BE FILLING THE UNEXPIRED PORTION OF THIS CURRENT TERM. WHICH IN TERMS OF THE CALENDAR, IS GOING TO BE JUST UNDER TWO MONTHS. HER FIRST FULL TERM WILL BEGIN JANUARY 1st WHEN WE SWEAR HER IN ALONG WITH OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE ELECTED FOR THE 2024-2025 TERM. [1:25:02] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. [1:25:38] Andrew Johnson: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WAS GOING TO SAY MOST OF MY FARE -- I WILL SAVE MOST OF MY FAREWELL REMARKS WHEN WE DO THE RESOLUTIONS AND SUCH. BUT JUST TO GIVE COLOR ON THIS DECLARATION OF VACANCY. AFTER SERVING TEN YEARS ON THIS BODY, I REACHED A POINT OF NEEDING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS NEXT. WHICH ALL OF YOU WILL SOME DAY HAVE TO DO. ( LAUGHTER ) YOU KNOW, FOR MY COLLEAGUES RE-ELECTED, HOPEFULLY NOT FOR AWHILE. BUT YOU CAN'T ALWAYS PERFECTLY TIME THESE THINGS. I HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO FIND MY NEXT ROLE. AND IT'S SOMETHING I STARTED ON OCTOBER 10th AND ABSOLUTELY LOVE. AND I ALSO FEEL BLESSED TO HAVE BEEN IN THIS POSITION, AS WELL, OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS. IT HAS BEEN TRULY AN HONOR AND PLEASURE. [1:26:06] Andrew Johnson: AND PART OF THAT IS GETTING TO KNOW YOU ALL AS WELL. IT WAS ON MY MIND WHEN FIGURING OUT THIS TRANSITION OF ULTIMATELY HOW BEST TO SERVE THE WARD 12 CONSTITUENTS GIVEN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES. AND WE ALWAYS CAN'T -- WE CAN'T ALWAYS TIME EVERYTHING PERFECTLY IN LIFE. THAT IS ONE OF THESE CASES HERE WITH MY NEW ROLE. BUT OVER THE PAST MONTH AND SIX DAYS SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE, I HAVE BEEN WEARING TWO HATS AND CONTINUING TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF WARD 12. AND THE PEOPLE OF WARD 12 KNEW THIS GOING INTO ELECTION DAY AND THEY CHOSE A SUCCESSOR WHO IS READY TO GO ON DAY ONE, WHO YOU ALL KNOW. WHO HAS EXPERIENCE HERE AT CITY HALL. AND I'M EXCITED FOR COUNCIL MEMBER TO START. AND SHE IS EXCITED TOO. AND SHE IS READY. AND IF SHE WASN'T READY TO DO THIS, IF SHE WASN'T INTERESTED IN DOING THIS, I WOULD FINDS A WAY TO CONTINUE -- I WOULD FIND A WAY TO CONTINUE [1:27:11] Andrew Johnson: ON UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR. BUT I TRULY BELIEVE THIS IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF PEOPLE IN WARD 12. I KNOW SHE IS READY TO GO. AND SHE HAS MY FULL CONFIDENCE AND SUPPORT AS WELL IN THAT. LIKE I SAID,LY SAVE MOST OF MY -- I WILL SAVE MOST OF MY COMMENTS FOR THAT HONORARY RESOLUTION. I JUST HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN SO INCREDIBLE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. KATE AND CLAIRE, SUZANNE, DILLON, ILHAN, TO THE CLERK'S TEAM. EVERYBODY. OUR DEPARTMENT LEADERS AND HEADS. MY COLLEAGUES, MY FAMILY. THIS JOB IS SO TOUGH. IT'S SO STRESSFUL AND SO MUCH FALLS ON THEM AND THEY HAVE TO PICK IT UP WHEN THIS JOB CALLS. IT'S A SHARED SERVICE IN THAT REGARD. AND ESPECIALLY A THANK YOU TO THE PEOPLE OF WARD 12 FOR ENTRUSTING ME WITH THIS ROLE. I HOPE I MADE THEM PROUD OVER THE YEARS AND MAKING SURE I MADE INDEPENDENT DECISIONS THAT WERE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE OF WARD 12 AND OUR CITY EACH AND EVERY TIME. EVEN THOUGH THAT DIDN'T ALWAYS EARN ME PRAISE OR LOVE OR THOSE SORT OF THINGS. AND I WISH THEM ALL THE BEST AND I WISH [1:28:38] Andrew Johnson: COUNCILMEMBER ELECT CHOWDHURY ALL THE BEST. [1:29:26] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. I CAN SAY ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL, WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST, AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TEN YEARS OF SERVICE TO THIS CITY AND TO THE RESIDENTS OF WARD 12. AND AS YOU NOTED, IT'S NOT JUST YOU, IT'S OUR FAMILIES, OUR FRIENDS WHO ALSO JOIN US FOR THIS INCREDIBLY CHALLENGING RIDE. SO THANK YOU, SIR AND WE'LL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE COMMENTS FROM YOU AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE OUR OUTGOING COUNCIL MEMBERS AS IS CUSTOM. AND SO I WILL MOVE THAT ITEM UNDER TODAY'S NEW BUSINESS AND ASK FOR A SECOND. [1:29:45] Linea Palmisano: SECOND. [1:29:45] Andrea Jenkins: ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES ON THAT MOTION? SEEING NONE. CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. [1:30:15] Casey Carl: JOHNSON. AYE. OSMAN. AYE. PAYNE. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. ELLISON. AYE. VETAW. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. PALM SAN KNEE. AYE. PRESIDENT JENKINS. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES. [1:30:15] Andrea Jenkins: THAT CARRIES AND THAT RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED. I WILL MOVE TO REFER THAT NOMINATION TO THE BUSINESS INSPECTIONS HOUSING ZONING COMMITTEE. WITH A PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD AT THEIR NEXT MEETING ON NOVEMBER 28th. MAY I HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COLLEAGUES? COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. [1:31:18] Jason Chavez: THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT JENKINS. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS TO THE CLERK. CAN YOU JUST WALK US THROUGH THE STANDARD PROCESS WITH THESE APPOINTMENTS? I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED WITH THESE ITEMS. DON'T WE JUST USUALLY REFER THEM TO COMMITTEE? I WOULD LIKE TO GET MORE BACKGROUND ON THAT. [1:31:47] Casey Carl: MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ, THAT MATTERS ARE REFERRED TO THE PROPER COMMITTEES FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION WHICH WOULD INCLUDE AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL THE SETTING OF A PUBLIC HEARING IN A FUTURE CYCLE SO THAT THE BUSINESS IS TAKEN UP. AND SO UNDER A STANDARD PROCESS, TODAY'S ACTION IS TO REFER TO THE PROPER COMMITTEE THIS NOMINATION FOR THIS POSITION. THE COMMITTEE WOULD AT ITS MEETING SET THE PUBLIC HEARING USUALLY IN THE NEXT CYCLE. AT WHICH TIME THEY WOULD CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARING AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. THEY WOULD FINALIZE THEIR ACTION AND REPORT BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL WOULD TAKE ACTION IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION. THAT IS THE STANDARD PROCESS. THERE IS, WHAT I CALL FOR LACK OF A FORMAL TERM EXPEDITED PROCESS. AS THE COUNCIL CAN SET THE DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, IN FACT, THAT EXPEDITED PROCESS IS THE PROCESS THAT TENDS TO BE USED MORE FREQUENTLY AND MORE OFTEN THAN THE DEFAULT OR STANDARD PROCESS. SO SETTING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE TIME OF MAKING REFERRAL IS NOT UNCOMMON, BUT IT IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE STANDARD PROCESS THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE DICTATED UNDER THE RULES. [1:32:36] Jason Chavez: THANK YOU. WE'RE GOOD. [1:32:36] Andrea Jenkins: COUNCILMEMBER PAYNE. [1:33:26] Elliott Payne: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT JUST IN TERMS OF CONSIDERATION FOR OUR NEW COLLEAGUES COMING ON BOARD AND THEM HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THESE REALLY IMPORTANT APPOINTMENTS BEFORE BEING ABLE TO VOTE ON IT. I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD FOLLOW OUR STANDARD PROCESS HERE. AND IF THAT BLEEDS US INTO THE NEXT TERM, THAT IS PROBABLY AN ITEM OUTCOME. I WOULD LOVE OUT OF RESPECT FOR OUR NEW COLLEAGUES FOR THEM TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN. [1:33:26] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER PAYNE. COUNCILMEMBER GOODMAN. [1:34:01] Elizabeth Goodman: THANK YOU. MR. HANSEN HAS BEEN SERVING FOR THE BETTER PART OF SIX MONTHS. HE HAS BEEN DOING TWO JOBS, ACTUALLY. THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR JOB AND THE DIRECTOR JOB. WE HAD A LENGTHY EXTERNAL PROCESS WHERE HE COMPETED AGAINST A NUMBER OF PEOPLE. I SAT IN ON SOME OF THE INTERVIEWS. AND HE ROSE TO THE TOP. AND THE NEXT COUNCIL DOES NOT MEET UNTIL THE END OF JANUARY. AND SO I HAVE VERY STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT GETTING HIM IN PLACE AS SOON AS WE CAN. AND IT WAS A DELAY IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, OTHERWISE -- WE MADE HIM GO THROUGH A COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE AND ROUGH PROCESS OF INTERVIEWING ALONG WITH FIVE OTHER PEOPLE. STARTED AT 20 PEOPLE, MOVED DOWN TO FIVE. I WILL NOTE THAT EVERY SINGLE SEAT IS THE SAME EXCEPT FOR MINE AND COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. OF WHICH COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON IS LEAVING AND COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDRE WILL BE HERE. I'M HAPPY TO BRIEF COUNCILMEMBER ELECT CASHMAN SHOULD THAT BE REQUIRED. I'M SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO THE CPED NOMINATION THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED FOR THE 28th AND I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. [1:34:42] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER GOODMAN. COUNCILMEMBER PAYNE. [1:35:37] Elliott Payne: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. MY COMMENTS ARE NOT AT ALL IN REFERENCE TO THE INTERIM DIRECTOR HANSEN. I HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM. THIS IS MOSTLY OUT OF RESPECT, TRULY, FOR COUNCILMEMBER-ELECT CASHMAN. WE ARE NOT UNFAMILIAR WITH THE FOLKS HOLDING INTERIM ROLES FOR A LONG TIME HERE. I DON'T THINK THE TIMELINE IS AS -- IS A SIGNIFICANT BARRIER HERE. I HAVE COMMENTS ON OUR WE VIEW PROCESS WHICH I WILL -- COMMENTS ON OUR INTERVIEW PROCESS, WHICH I WILL SAY FOR OUR NEXT ITEM. BUT THIS ISN'T ABOUT INTERIM DIRECTOR HANSEN, THIS IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT COUNCILMEMBER ELECT CASHMAN HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH. IT'S A PRETTY BIG DEAL TO GET SWORN IN AND GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. I FEEL WE CAN HONOR HERE IN A MEANINGFUL WAY TO GIVE HER THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN. [1:35:37] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER PAYNE. COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. [1:36:39] Linea Palmisano: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I ALSO DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS ABOUT NEW COLLEAGUES HERE. WE SAY UP HERE WE WANT POSITIONS FILLED. AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE DOING DOUBLE DUTY, AT LEAST. WE SAY WE WANT A POSITIVE WORK ENVIRONMENT, AND YET WE HOLD PEOPLE ON THE HOOK FOR AGES AND AGES. BOTH OF THESE APPOINTMENTS TO ME ARE A NONISSUE. VERY NOTABLY THEY ARE INTERNAL CANDIDATES THAT WE ALL KNOW AND HAVE WORKED WITH. ONE OF THE CANDIDATES OF THESE POSITIONS, AND I'M SPEAKING TO BOTH ITEM TWO AND THREE TOGETHER HERE. BUT ONE OF THEM HAS RECENTLY HAD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR HER APPOINTMENT AS PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. I APPRECIATE THE PROCESS IS IMPORTANT HERE. [1:37:13] Linea Palmisano: BUT AT THE END OF THE TERM, I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO SAY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TWO WEEKS TO SCHEDULE THIS PUBLIC HEARING FOR ONE CANDIDATE AND I BELIEVE FOUR FOR THE OTHER. THREE MAYBE. AND TO DISPENSE WITH THESE DECISIONS HERE AND I THINK TWO WEEKS AND MORE IS AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO THAT FOR THESE INTERNAL CANDIDATES. AND TO LET OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN VYING FOR THESE POSITIONS FROM EXTERNAL TO THE CITY ALSO GIVE THEM SOME CONFIRMATION AS TO WHERE WE ARE AT. SO THANK YOU. [1:37:13] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT. AND SEEING NO FURTHER CONVERSATION AND/OR COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES, CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE NOMINATION OF ERIK HANSEN TO BE MOVED TO THE BIZ COMMITTEE FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 28th. [1:38:02] Casey Carl: COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. AYE. OSMAN. AYE. PAYNE. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. ELLISON. AYE. VETAW. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. AYE. PRESIDENT JENKINS. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES. [1:38:12] Andrea Jenkins: THAT CARRIES AND THAT NOMINATION IS REFERRED TO THE BIZ COMMITTEE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 28th. FINALLY WE HAVE RECEIVED THE MAYOR'S NOMINATION -- MAYOR'S NOMINATION FOR MARGARET ANDERSON KELLIHER. I WILL ASK TO MOVE THAT WITH A PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD AT THEIR NEXT MEETING ON DECEMBER 5th, 2023. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? [1:38:37] Linea Palmisano: SECOND. [1:38:37] Andrea Jenkins: ARE THERE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? COUNCILMEMBER PAYNE. [1:39:41] Elliott Payne: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. SIMILAR TO THE LAST APPOINTMENT, THIS AGAIN NOT ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL, IT'S ABOUT THE PROCESS. WE CLEARLY DISPENSED OF THIS LAST ONE. BUT THIS ONE I ACTUALLY WAS ABLE TO SIT ON THE SEARCH COMMITTEE FOR COO. WAS ABLE TO SIT ON ALL THE INTERVIEW IFS -P WE HAD VERY STRONG CANDIDATES THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT. WE EVEN ASKED SOME OF THEM TO COME BACK. SOME OF THEM HAD TO INTERRUPT INTERNATIONAL TRIPS VISITING FAMILY FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE COVID TO FLY BACK FOR AN INTERVIEW. AND WE SAY THAT WE CARE ABOUT PROCESS AROUND HERE, WE SAY THAT WE CARE ABOUT WORKERS AROUND HERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS OF -- DID WE ACTUALLY NOTIFY THAT THOSE FOLKS THAT DISRUPTED THEIR LIVES TO FLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND ACROSS THE WORLD TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS ROLE? WERE THEY GIVEN ANY HEADS UP? NOTIFIED? ANY AMOUNT OF RESPECT IN THAT PROCESS? I JUST HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW REMOVING THESE FORWARD AND RUSHING THEM THROUGH. ESPECIALLY GIVEN IT HAS THIS TING OF POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY BECAUSE OF MAYBE SOME ELECTION RESULTS THAT PEOPLE FELT A WAY ABOUT. BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THIS BODY IS REALLY WANTING TO HEAR ABOUT GOOD PROCESS AND DOESN'T REALLY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE RESPECT FOR OUR NEW COLLEAGUE AND THEY DON'T SEE THAT ASEN -- AS AN ISSUE. [1:40:18] Andrea Jenkins: COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. [1:41:48] Andrew Johnson: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WON'T BE HERE FOR THIS VOTE ON IT. BUT I DID WANT TO SPEAK ON THE NOMINEE, THE CANDIDATE. I HAD A CHANCE TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH DIRECTOR ANDERSON KELLIHER. AND I AM SO EXCITED TO SEE HER NAME COMING FORWARD ON THIS. SHE WAS REALLY GREAT TO WORK WITH AND I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE AS A BODY, ESPECIALLY, IS AFTER THE GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE CHARTER AMENDMENT HAPPENING AND THE CHANGE IN THE BALANCE OF POWER BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE COUNCIL AND DIRECTOR ANDERSON KELLIHER WHAT I SAW AND WITNESSED FIRSTHAND IS SOMEONE I SAW AND REALLY WORKED TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL HAD A VOICE AND TO STRIKE THE RIGHT BALANCE AND IT'S A REALLY DIFFICULT STOP TO BE IN. A REALLY TOUGH ROLE IN THAT REGARD. BUT SHE BRINGS SUCH A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE FROM HER OBVIOUSLY IMPECCABLE RESUME IN THE LEGISLATURE AND THEN HIGH-LEVEL EXECUTIVE POSITIONS, AS WELL. IF ANYBODY CAN BE UP TO THE TASK OF AN IMPOSSIBLE ROLE, FRANKLY BETWEEN THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR AND THE PUBLIC AND OUR STAFF AND TRY TO JUGGLE ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND STRIKE THE RIGHT BALANCE, I DO THINK IT'S HER. I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS NOMINATION BEFORE US. I FELT COMPELLED GIVEN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH HER AND HER ABILITY TO PUSH BACK ON ALL SIDES. I'VE SEEN THAT AS WELL. AND TO STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT. I'M EXCITED TO SEE THE NOMINEE ADVANCING AND LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING YOU CONSIDER. THANK YOU. [1:42:12] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. I DID PUT MYSELF IN QUEUE. I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE OF RESPECT FOR OUR INCOMING COLLEAGUES I MEAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY POSTPONE ALL OF OUR DECISIONS UNTIL A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER ARRIVES AND IS SWORN IN AND OUR FIRST COUNCIL MEETING AT THE END OF JANUARY. HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK THAT RESPECTS THE MEMBERS OF THIS BODY NOW. WE HAVE DECISIONS TO MAKE NOW. AND OUR INCOMING COLLEAGUES, THE BOTH OF THEM, WILL HAVE MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO VOTE ON MANY IMPORTANT ITEMS AND ISSUES TO BRING OUR CITY TO CONTINUE TO MOVE OUR CITY FORWARD. AND SO -- YEAH. I JUST DON'T NECESSARILY BUY INTO THE ARGUMENT THAT WE'RE SOMEHOW DISRESPECTING INCOMING COLLEAGUES BY DOING OUR DUTY AS ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS. SEEING NO FURTHER CONVERSATION, CLERK CALL THE ROLL. [1:43:58] Casey Carl: COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. AYE. OSMAN. AYE. PAYNE. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. CHAVEZ. AYE. ELLISON. AYE. VETAW. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. VICE PRESIDENT PALMISANO. AYE. PRESIDENT JENKINS. AYE. THERE ARE 13 AYES. [1:43:58] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. THAT CARRIES. ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? AS I'M WAITING TO SEE IF OTHERS GO IN QUEUE, I'M GOING TO PUT MYSELF IN QUEUE TO ASK ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES TO STAY IN YOUR SEATS FOR THE MCDA MEETING IMMEDIATELY AFTER. I THINK WE CAN MOVE PRETTY QUICKLY THROUGH THAT. BUT I THINK THAT WILL BE THE BEST WAY THROUGH THIS. OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. [1:44:27] Michael Rainville: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE CHAIR. I WANT TO SEND WELL WISHES TO MY MOTHER, MY 90-YEAR-OLD MOTHER. SHE RECENTLY HAD HEART ISSUES AND HAD TO GO TO NORTH WESTERN. AND I WAS AMAZED AT THE GREAT CARE SHE GOT. SHOUT OUT TO ALL THE PROFESSIONALS AT ABBOTT NORTHWESTERN. SO PLEASED TO SEE THEIR $1 BILLION IN A REMODELING IN ACTION. IT'S QUITE A CAMPUS SO GOOD FOR ABBOTT NORTHWESTERN. AND I WISH YOU THE BEST IN YOUR HEALING. [1:44:57] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? COUNCILMEMBER KOSKI. [1:45:29] Emily Koski: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED -- I WAS VIRTUAL YESTERDAY DURING THE PUBLIC WORKS AGENDA SETTING AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT PEGGY, WHO HAS BEEN THE CLERK FOR PUBLIC WORKS FOR MAYBE THE CLERK CAN TELL ME HOW MANY YEARS SHE HAS SERVED AS THAT? GOTCHA. [1:45:48] Casey Carl: I CAN'T, BECAUSE I'M ASKING MY TEAM TO PUT THE SAME COMMENTS TOGETHER. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS SHE HAS BEEN HERE. [1:45:48] Emily Koski: MANY, MANY. SO I JUST WANT TO OFFER THAT UP BECAUSE I WASN'T THERE IN PERSON TO SAY THANK YOU TO HER AND FOR HER DEDICATION TO THE CITY. [1:46:08] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. I KNOW MS. PEGGY NOT SEEING ANYMORE. WE COMPLETED OUR BUSINESS IN THE COUNCIL MEETING TODAY AND NOTHING FURTHER TO COME BEFORE IT. WITHOUT OBJECTION, THIS MEETING IS HEREBY ADJOURNED TO DECEMBER 5th AT 6:05 P.M. FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONDUCTING A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPTING THE 2024 CITY BUDGET AND TAX LEVY. THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND THE PROPOSED WATER AND SEWER RATES. THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING TO START THE MCDA MEETING IMMEDIATELY AFTER. [1:46:25] Elizabeth Goodman: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. THE MCDA WAS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SAG AGENCY. IT EXISTS AS A SEPARATE LEGAL ENTITY AND A SMALL NUMBER OF CPED ITEMS REQUIRE APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. THEY COUNCIL SERVES AS THE MCDA BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. GIVEN THAT I ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL TO CONFIRM ATTENDANCE AT THIS MEETING. [1:47:13] Casey Carl: COMMISSIONER PAYNE. PRESENT. WONSLEY. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER RAINVILLE. PRESENT. VETAW. PRESENT. ELLISON. HERE. OSMAN. PRESENT. JENKINS IS ABSENT. CHAVEZ. PRESENT. CHUGHTAI. PRESENT. KOSKI. PRESENT. JOHNSON. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER PALMISANO. PRESENT. CHAIR GOODMAN. PRESENT. THERE ARE 12 MEMBERS PRESENT. [1:47:13] Elizabeth Goodman: THERE IS A QUORUM AVAILABLE. COLLEAGUES, THERE ARE FOUR ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA WHICH IS ADOPTING THE AGENDA, THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE MINUTES FROM THE DECEMBER 8th MEETING 2022, AS WELL AS, THE PASSAGE OF RESOLUTIONS AUTHORIZING THE ISSUE ANSWER OF REVENUE BONDS FOR NORTH MARKET AND A PASSAGE OF A RESOLUTION FOR PILLSBURY UNITED COMMUNITIES. WHAT IS THE COMMISSION'S PLEASURE COMMISSIONER OSMAN? WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL ITEMS? [1:47:48] Jamal Osman: YES, I DO. [1:48:03] Elizabeth Goodman: APPROVAL OF ALL ITEMS HAS BEEN MOVED. FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? [1:48:03] Casey Carl: COMMISSIONER PAYNE. AYE. WONSLEY. AYE. RAINVILLE. AYE. VETAW. AYE. ELLISON. AYE. OSMAN. AYE. JENKINS IS ABSENT. COMMISSIONER CHAVEZ. AYE. CHUGHTAI. AYE. KOSKI. AYE. JOHNSON. AYE. COMMISSIONER PALMISANO. AYE. GOODMAN. AYE. [1:48:15] Elizabeth Goodman: THOSE ITEMS ARE ADOPTED. I WILL DECLARE OUR MEETING ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, EVERYONE.