[00:00] **Chair Tim Roeman**: THE APRIL 27TH, 2023 MEETING OF THE BLOOMINGTON PLANNING COMMISSION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS MADE UP OF SEVEN VOLUNTEER BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. TONIGHT WE HAVE FIVE WHICH IS A QUORUM. THE COMMISSION ADVISES THE CITY COUNCIL ON DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, LONG-RANGE PLANNING, AND TRANSPORTATION ISSUES. OUR WORK IS INFORMED BY THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, VARIOUS DISTRICT PLANS, AND THE CITY CODE. FOR SOME ITEMS, THE COMMISSION MAKES A RECOMMENDATION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL HAVING FINAL DECISION-MAKING AUTHORITY. IN OTHER CASES, THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN APPROVE OR DENY AN APPLICATION SUBJECT TO APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL. FOR EACH ACTION ITEM, THERE WILL BE A STAFF REPORT, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT, THEN TIME FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TONIGHT IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE STAND AS YOU ARE ABLE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. TONIGHT WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS: ONE PUBLIC HEARING, THREE STUDY ITEMS. I'D START BY ASKING THE PLANNING MANAGER TO SHARE INFORMATION ON HOW TO TESTIFY REMOTELY. [00:02] **Nick Johnson (Planning Manager)**: CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, ITEM ONE. JUST AS THE PUBLIC CAN TESTIFY HERE IN THE CHAMBERS, IF YOU'RE WATCHING FROM HOME, YOU CAN TESTIFY REMOTELY AS WELL. WHAT YOU WOULD DO IS CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN AND THEN ENTER IN THE ACCESS CODE, AND WE WILL HAVE THIS NUMBER FLASHING ON THE SCREEN PERIODICALLY DURING THAT ITEM. THANK YOU. [00:03] **Chair Tim Roeman**: THANK YOU. THE FIRST ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT AMENDMENTS, AND I BELIEVE PLANNER RAMSEY OLSON HAS THE STAFF REPORT. AND HERE YOU GO. [00:03] **Ramsey Olson (Planner)**: YES, THAT'S YOUR ROOM. SORRY ABOUT THAT. [00:03] **Chair Tim Roeman**: THAT'S OKAY, PETER. [00:03] **Ramsey Olson (Planner)**: SORRY ABOUT THAT. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PRESENTATION IS VIEWABLE. YES, WE CAN SEE IT. OKAY, TERRIFIC. WE'RE SEEING—PERFECT. THERE WE GO. YES. FOR THAT INTRODUCTION, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, AND THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO THE 2022 SYSTEM STATEMENT ISSUED BY THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL LAST SEPTEMBER IN 2022. YEAH, THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSAL. THIS IS A CPA OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO INCORPORATE PROVISIONS NOTED IN THAT SYSTEM STATEMENT, AND ALSO NOTED ON THIS SLIDE IS THAT THE BULK OF THE REVISIONS ARE FOCUSED ON SECTION FOUR. THAT'S THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BUT THERE IS A FIGURE IN SECTION SEVEN THAT REVIEWS FACILITIES WHICH WAS ALSO REVISED TO RESPOND TO THE 2022 SYSTEM STATEMENT. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND: THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL PROVIDES A DEFINITION OF A SYSTEM PLAN. IT'S A SUITE OF LONG-RANGE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS FOR THE REGIONAL SYSTEM. YOU SEE ALL THE PLANS THAT ARE ENCOMPASSED; IT INCLUDES CAPITAL BUDGETS FOR WASTEWATER SERVICES, TRANSPORTATION, AND RECREATIONAL OPTIONS/OPEN SPACE. THE SYSTEM STATEMENT IS A DOCUMENT THAT BASICALLY DESCRIBES UPDATES TO THOSE SYSTEM PLANS. IT'S SPECIFIC TO EACH COMMUNITY WITHIN THE METROPOLITAN AREA AND SUMMARIZES THOSE CHANGES. IT'S PREPARED BY THE MET COUNCIL TO HELP METRO AREA COMMUNITIES UNDERSTAND UPDATES TO SYSTEM PLANS AND IT HELPS THOSE COMMUNITIES APPROPRIATELY REVISE THEIR PLAN TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE STATUTE. I THINK IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT THE CONCEPT OF A CPA IS DISTINCT FROM THE DECENNIAL PLANNING PROCESS. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT STAFF DID NOT DO A WHOLESALE REVISION OF THE ENTIRE COMP PLAN, AND EVEN IN THOSE SECTIONS—THOSE BIGGER CHUNKS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN—WE STUCK STRICTLY TO WHAT WAS NOTED IN THE SYSTEM STATEMENT; WE DID NOT VEER OFF. SO YEAH, YOU KNOW, IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT SOME THINGS HAVE BEEN IN FORCE FOR A FEW YEARS NOW BUT SOME THINGS ARE OUT OF DATE, AND FOR THOSE THINGS THAT WERE NOTED IN THE SYSTEM STATEMENT, THAT'S WHAT WE REVISED TO BRING UP TO DATE TO REFLECT THE LATEST EDITIONS OR THOSE LATEST VERSIONS OF THE SYSTEM PLANS. BUT WE DID NOT REVISE EVERYTHING THAT WAS OUT OF DATE WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN; THAT WILL BE DONE IN THE COMING YEARS WHEN WE DO THIS WHOLE DECENNIAL PLANNING PROCESS. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT. THIS IS A TIMELINE SUMMARIZING HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT IN TIME. IN 2015, THE COUNCIL ADOPTED THE 2040 TRANSPORTATION POLICY PLAN AND THE REGIONAL PARKS POLICY PLAN. IN 2020, THAT COUNCIL UPDATED THOSE TWO SYSTEM PLANS. IN 2022, AS WAS NOTED, WE RECEIVED A SYSTEM STATEMENT FROM THAT COUNCIL WHICH OBLIGATED IT TO INCORPORATE REVISIONS TO REFLECT THE SYSTEM STATEMENTS WITHIN NINE MONTHS, WHICH WOULD PUT US AT THE END OF THE YEAR IN 2023. THIS TABLE IS BASICALLY A CARBON COPY OF WHAT WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT SUMMARIZING ALL THE REVISIONS THAT STAFF MADE TO BRING IT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SYSTEM STATEMENT. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING, BUT IT'S THERE FOR YOUR REFERENCE IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL. I'M JUST PROVIDING YOU HERE JUST TO SHOW YOU AND THE PUBLIC HOW MANY CHANGES WERE PROPOSED BY STAFF. SUMMARY OF UPDATES: LOOKING AT SECTION FOUR, A BIGGER THEME WAS CHANGING THE STATUS OF PROJECTS THAT THE COUNCIL HIGHLIGHTED WITHIN THEIR TRANSPORTATION POLICY PLAN. A LOT OF THINGS WENT FROM "PLANNED" OR "UNDER CONSTRUCTION" AS NOTED IN BLOOMINGTON'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO "COMPLETE," AND THEN THE LANGUAGE WITHIN THOSE SECTIONS DESCRIBING THOSE PROJECTS WAS CHANGED TO REFLECT THE COMPLETE STATUS. THERE ARE VERY MINOR LANGUAGE DIFFERENCES JUST TO REFLECT THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE PROJECTS. SOME OF THOSE ARE INCLUDED ON THIS SLIDE: THE INTERCHANGE AT I-494 AND BUSH LAKE ROAD, A NEW RIGHT TURN LANE AT HIGHWAY 77 AND OLD SHAKOPEE ROAD, THE MINNESOTA RIVER BRIDGE REPLACEMENT, THE ORANGE LINE, AND THE D LINE WHICH CAME INTO OPERATION AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NOW REFLECTING THAT THOSE TRANSIT SYSTEMS ARE IN OPERATION. OTHER CHANGES THAT WERE MADE, IN ADDITION TO THE BODY OF THE TEXT, WERE UPDATES TO MAPS. THIS IS THE REGIONAL BIKE TRAIL NETWORK. YOU'LL SEE CLOUDED ON THIS IMAGE WHAT THOSE CHANGES WERE: ADDED SYMBOLOGY TO SHOW A TIER ONE ALIGNMENT ON PORTLAND AVENUE AND A TIER TWO ALIGNMENT OFF TO THE WEST SIDE OF BLOOMINGTON. THOSE TWO CHANGES WERE MADE TO REFLECT THE REGIONAL BIKE TRAIL NETWORK THAT THE COUNCIL HAS IN PLACE IN THEIR NEW TRANSPORTATION POLICY PLAN. ANOTHER UPDATE TO SECTION FOUR WAS A CHANGE OF FUNDING STATUS FOR SPECIFIC TRANSIT WAYS. THERE WERE TWO WAYS TO DESCRIBE THE FUNDING STATUS: AN INCREASED REVENUE SCENARIO WHERE PROJECTS FOR WHICH THERE WAS NO IDENTIFIED FUNDING BUT WOULD BE CONSIDERED IF THERE WERE AN INCREASE, AND THE CURRENT REVENUE SCENARIO WHERE PROJECTS ARE IDENTIFIED, PLANNED, AND HAVE FUNDING SOURCES. WHAT WAS UPDATED WAS THE JOHNSON/LYNDALE ARTERIAL BRT WAS ADDED TO THE INCREASED REVENUE SCENARIO, AND ALSO WORTH NOTING IS AMERICAN BOULEVARD WAS RECLASSIFIED; IT'S STILL WITHIN THE INCREASED REVENUE SCENARIO BUT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED AS CONSIDERATION FOR AN ARTERIAL BRT, BUT NOW IT'S A CORRIDOR UNDER STUDY, AND I BELIEVE THAT STUDY WILL KICK OFF LATER IN 2023. ANOTHER THING TO KNOW: NOT A HUGE REVISION, BUT JUST BRINGING THE FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION OF ROADWAYS WITHIN THE CITY UP TO DATE. THERE IS A STRIP BETWEEN NORMANDALE BOULEVARD AND NORMANDALE ROAD THAT IS NOW IDENTIFIED AS A MINOR RELIEVER. ALSO, THERE WAS ANOTHER MAP THAT REFLECTS THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF LANES WITHIN ITS ROADWAY. THE UPDATES TO SECTION SEVEN ARE FOCUSED ON FIGURE 7.3, THE RECREATIONAL TRAIL NETWORK. I HAVE CLOUDED OFF TO THE LEFT THE CP RAIL TRAIL AND ANOTHER REGIONAL TRAIL SEARCH CORRIDOR WAS ADDED BY THE MET COUNCIL, SO THIS MAP WAS UPDATED TO REFLECT THAT AS WELL AS ANOTHER PORTION OF A REGIONAL TRAIL SEARCH CORRIDOR EXTENDING TO SCOTT PARK IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE CITY. CITY STAFF SENT OUT COMMENT FORMS TO ADJACENT JURISDICTIONS ON MARCH 23RD; THOSE INCLUDED A MIX OF CITY SCHOOL DISTRICTS, REGIONAL AND STATE AGENCIES, AND WATERSHED DISTRICTS. THUS FAR, THE CITY HAS ONLY RECEIVED SEVERAL RESPONSES; THEY HAVE 60 DAYS IN ORDER TO COMMENT. WE DID RECEIVE ONE FORM FROM EDEN PRAIRIE SCHOOL DISTRICT THIS PAST MONDAY. SO FAR WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT THIS HAS BEEN ADVERTISED. WITH THAT, THE RECOMMENDATION BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS ON THE SLIDE AND I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. [00:10] **Chair Tim Roeman**: THANK YOU FOR THAT. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY. SEEING THAT THE CITY IS ALSO THE APPLICANT AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, I WOULD OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PROPOSALS? GO AHEAD AND COME FORWARD AND SIGN IN ON THE SHEET FOR THE RECORD AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF. YOU'VE GOT 3 MINUTES. [00:11] **Brian Selig (Resident)**: GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BRIAN SELIG. THIS IS A PRETTY IN-DEPTH PLAN; THERE SEEM TO BE AT LEAST A HUNDRED PAGES OR MORE OF INFORMATION. I'M SURPRISED TO SEE I'M THE ONLY ONE HERE, BUT I GUESS I ONLY HAVE ONE COMMENT ON WHAT I SAW AND THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN OVER THE BIKE TRAILS. I SAW A LOT OF VERY USEFUL INFORMATION IN THE REPORT, BUT ONE THING I DIDN'T SEE IS ANY KIND OF CONCERN REGARDING BICYCLE USAGE ANYWHERE. I'M COMMENTING ON SECTION SEVEN. ONE WOULD THINK THAT THERE'D BE SOME SORT OF COUNT SINCE I WOULD IMAGINE THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT COST IN EXTENDING THESE TRAILS. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE COUNTED CURRENT BIKE TRAFFIC SOMEHOW, EVEN IF IT WAS JUST CAMERAS. I AM SORT OF CONCERNED THAT "IF WE BUILD IT THEY WILL COME" IS THE THOUGHT PROCESS. I'M ALSO CONCERNED ON FUNDING IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE CITIZENS UTILIZE BIKES TO A LARGE EXTENT, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING HOW THE BIKE POPULATION WILL DISPROPORTIONATELY SUPPORT THIS SINCE IT'S PRIMARILY FOR THEM? I'VE ENCOUNTERED A LOT OF INCONVENIENCE. OFTENTIMES YOU'RE ON A TWO-LANE EACH WAY STREET, AND SUDDENLY IT CUTS DOWN TO ONE LANE EACH WAY AND THERE'S A LOT OF CHAOS AT THAT POINT, PARTICULARLY IN RUSH HOUR. WE ADVERTISED THE TRAIL THAT WAS PUT IN FROM LYNDALE AVENUE EAST AS BLOOMINGTON'S NEWEST NATURE TRAIL. I USED TO GO DOWN THERE A LOT; THERE WERE FOX POPULATIONS, THEY'RE ALL GONE. THE USAGE PROBABLY DESTROYED IT. I WOULD SAY IT'S BLOOMINGTON'S NEWEST FREEWAY, NOT A NATURE CENTER WALK TRAIL, JUST BECAUSE BY LYNDALE AVENUE THAT AREA IS SO NARROW THAT PUTTING A TEN-FOOT WIDE PAVED PATH PLUS 15 OR 20 FEET ON EACH SIDE TOOK OUT MOST OF THE AREA. I REALIZE THIS IS COMING FROM THE MET COUNCIL, BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [00:14] **Chair Tim Roeman**: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO TESTIFY ON THIS ITEM? IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE FOR THIS ITEM? [00:14] **Nick Johnson (Planning Manager)**: CHAIR ROEMAN, WE HAVE NO ONE ONLINE FOR THIS ITEM. [00:14] **Chair Tim Roeman**: THANK YOU. GIVEN THAT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. [00:14] **Commissioner**: SO MOVED. [00:14] **Commissioner**: SECOND. [00:14] **Chair Tim Roeman**: THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. (AYES). OPPOSED? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO OFFER A LITTLE BIT OF COMMENT BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A VERY LARGE DOCUMENT, AND COMMISSIONER KORMAN AND I WORKED ON IT WHEN THE PLAN WAS DEVELOPED OVER ABOUT A TWO TO THREE YEAR PERIOD. THE PLAN ITSELF WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY IN 2018. WHILE THE REVISIONS WE SEE ARE VERY FOCUSED, THE PLAN ITSELF IS VISIONARY. I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT PRESCRIPTIVE THAT THOSE WILL BE BUILT IN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. IS THAT ACCURATE, PLANNING MANAGER? [00:15] **Nick Johnson (Planning Manager)**: THAT IS ACCURATE. [00:15] **Chair Tim Roeman**: OKAY. PERSONALLY, FOR ME, I THINK NOTHING IN HERE IS A BIG DEAL. I APPRECIATE THAT THE COUNCIL IS UPDATING THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION, BUT I THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO INCORPORATE THIS INFORMATION THAN USING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME TO AMEND A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I THINK THE PROCESS GIVEN TO US IS WHOLLY OVERKILL FOR WHAT THIS IS. I JUST THINK WE ASK A LOT OF OUR STAFF AND THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THEIR TIME, BUT I SUPPORT THE AMENDMENTS BECAUSE WE'RE REQUIRED TO MAKE THEM. COMMISSIONER COOKSON? [00:16] **Commissioner Cookson**: MR. CHAIR, THANKS. IF YOU'RE GOING TO WRITE A LETTER, I'M HAPPY TO SIGN IT. IT JUST FEELS LIKE A GROSS OVERREACTION. WE'VE GOT EIGHT STAFF MEMBERS HERE TO DRAW A COUPLE OF SHADED LINES IN OUR COMP PLAN. THAT'S NOT TO DEVALUE THE WORK, BUT WE SERVE OUR RESIDENTS AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE SERVED OUR RESIDENTS ON THIS BY SPENDING A LOT OF TIME DOING NOTHING. I THINK A MESSAGE SHOULD BE SENT BACK TO THE MET COUNCIL THAT THIS WAS NOT A GOOD USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS OR STAFF TIME. [00:17] **Commissioner Albrecht**: THANK YOU, CHAIR. I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT CHAIR ROEMAN AND COMMISSIONER COOKSON HAVE SAID. MY OTHER CONCERN IS THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION BETWEEN WHAT IS IN THE COUNCIL SYSTEM STATEMENT AND WHAT GETS CHANGED IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT'S CONFUSING TO FOLKS WHO ARE NOT PLANNERS. I AGREE AND AM WILLING TO SIGN A LETTER. [00:18] **Chair Tim Roeman**: AGAIN, I WANT TO BE CLEAR: THE WORK THE MET COUNCIL HAS DONE IS VALUABLE. IT'S THE QUESTION OF THE PHASE OF THE PROCESS FOR INCORPORATION. IF NO ONE HAS OTHER DISCUSSION, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. [00:18] **Commissioner Clifton**: MR. CHAIR, IN CASE 2023-34, I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT REVISING SECTIONS FOUR AND SEVEN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE 2022 SYSTEM STATEMENT ISSUED BY THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL. [00:19] **Commissioner**: SECOND. [00:19] **Chair Tim Roeman**: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. (AYES). OPPOSED? THIS ITEM WILL MOVE TO THE MAY 22ND CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THE NEXT ITEM IS A STUDY ITEM ON THE CITY'S NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSPORT TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND WE HAVE OUR CITY ENGINEER JULIE LONG HERE WITH RAY HAYHURST FROM KIMLEY-HORN. [00:19] **Julie Long (Public Works Director)**: THANK YOU, CHAIR ROEMAN. I'LL INTRODUCE RAY FROM KIMLEY-HORN, OUR CONSULTANT WHO'S BEEN WORKING ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN WHICH INCLUDES SPEED LIMITS AND TRAFFIC CALMING. [00:19] **Ray Hayhurst (Kimley-Horn Consultant)**: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROGRAM SINCE JANUARY. THE PURPOSE IS TO IDENTIFY SAFETY AND TRAFFIC CHALLENGES ON LOCAL STREETS—NOT COUNTY ROADWAYS OR ARTERIALS. OUR GOALS INCLUDE SAFETY, MOBILITY, EQUITY, AND FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY. TODAY, EXISTING SPEED LIMITS ON LOCAL STREETS ARE 30 MILES PER HOUR. THE STATE STATUTE CHANGED IN 2019 TO ALLOW MUNICIPALITIES TO LOWER THESE. OUR PROPOSAL IS A STATUTORY 25 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT FOR ALL LOCAL STREETS, WITH CONSIDERATION FOR A POSTED 20 MILE PER HOUR LIMIT IN SCHOOL ZONES DURING ARRIVAL AND DISMISSAL. WE WANT TO MOVE AWAY FROM A PROCESS THAT REQUIRES RESIDENT PETITIONS AND SPECIAL TAX ASSESSMENTS, WHICH HAVE BEEN BARRIERS. WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT LIMITED AWARENESS OF EXISTING PROGRAMS AND THE IMPORTANCE OF SAFETY NEAR SCHOOLS. [00:27] **Commissioner Albrecht**: THANK YOU, CHAIR. I HAVE A QUESTION BASED ON THE EXPERIENCE OF MINNEAPOLIS AND ST. PAUL. WHAT HAVE BEEN THE SUCCESSES AND CHALLENGES WITH REDUCING SPEED LIMITS THERE? [00:27] **Ray Hayhurst (Kimley-Horn Consultant)**: MY FIRM HELPED MINNEAPOLIS. ONE CHALLENGE WAS THE NEED TO RE-TIME TRAFFIC SIGNALS. ANOTHER WAS COMPLIANCE; 20 MILES PER HOUR IS PERHAPS SET TOO LOW FOR WHAT DRIVERS FIND ACCEPTABLE. IN BLOOMINGTON, STREETS FEEL WIDER, SO 20 MIGHT LEAD TO POOR COMPLIANCE. WE THINK 25 IS REASONABLE BASED ON SPEEDS WE ARE SEEING TODAY. [00:29] **Commissioner Gretchen Pivec**: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MR. HAYHURST, DO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH COMMUNITIES THAT LOOK LIKE BLOOMINGTON—SUBURBAN, LARGER STREETS—AND THE CHANCE OF SUCCESS AT 25 MILES PER HOUR? [00:29] **Ray Hayhurst (Kimley-Horn Consultant)**: WE THINK 25 WILL LEAD TO VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE AT AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL. [00:29] **Commissioner Cookson**: I'M AN ANALYTICAL ENGINEER MYSELF. DO YOU HAVE ANY ANALYTICS ON CRASH DATA OR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY FROM MINNEAPOLIS OR ST. PAUL SINCE THE CHANGES? [00:30] **Julie Long (Public Works Director)**: THE LOCAL ROAD RESEARCH BOARD (LRRB) IS COMPLETING A STUDY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND ST. PAUL. WE CAN PROVIDE YOU A COPY ONCE IT'S RELEASED. WE ALSO HAVE A REPORT ON SPEED LIMITS IN SCHOOL ZONES. [00:31] **Commissioner Cookson**: I THINK THAT DATA IS IMPORTANT. MAKING THIS RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL WITHOUT FINALIZED DATA MIGHT NOT SERVE OUR RESIDENTS IF THE COST TO RE-TIME SIGNALS IS HIGH AND THE IMPACT IS LOW. [00:31] **Julie Long (Public Works Director)**: WE ACTUALLY DID SPEED ANALYSIS OF BLOOMINGTON ROADS. 30 IS THE LIMIT NOW, BUT MANY ARE ALREADY DOING 25. IF WE PUT IT DOWN TO 20, WE LOSE THAT VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. [00:32] **Commissioner Cookson**: HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO GO DOWN FIVE MILES AN HOUR FOR OUR CITY? [00:32] **Julie Long (Public Works Director)**: PROBABLY ABOUT $75,000 FOR NEW SIGNS AT ENTRY POINTS. RE-TIMING A SIGNAL IS $5,000 TO $7,000 IN STAFF TIME, BUT THE ISSUE IS OFTEN UPGRADING HARDWARE OR CONTROLLERS FROM THE 1950S. THAT IS THE EXPENSIVE COMPONENT. [00:34] **Commissioner Korman**: I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE FLASHING 20 MPH SPEED LIMITS IN SCHOOL ZONES. WILL IT LOOK LIKE THAT? [00:34] **Ray Hayhurst (Kimley-Horn Consultant)**: STUDIES SHOW THEY ARE MOST EFFECTIVE WHEN FLASHING RATHER THAN JUST LISTING TIMES. [00:34] **Commissioner Korman**: I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. REGARDLESS OF THE REST OF THE STREETS, THE SCHOOL ZONES SHOULD DEFINITELY GO DOWN AND BE CLEAR FOR PEOPLE. [00:36] **Chair Tim Roeman**: THANK YOU. WE TALK ABOUT THE COST OF SIGNS, BUT SOME ARE REPLACED ANYWAY DUE TO LIFE CYCLE. ANYTHING ELSE STAFF NEEDS FROM US? SEEING NONE, THANK YOU. ITEM THREE IS THE MEETING SYNOPSIS FROM MARCH 9TH. [00:37] **Commissioner Cookson**: I MOVE TO APPROVE THE SYNOPSIS FOR MARCH 9TH, 2023. [00:37] **Commissioner**: SECOND. [00:37] **Chair Tim Roeman**: MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? (AYES). ABSTAIN? (KORMAN, ALBRECHT). MOTION PASSES. NEXT IS MARCH 23RD. [00:38] **Commissioner**: SO MOVED. [00:38] **Commissioner**: SECOND. [00:38] **Chair Tim Roeman**: MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? (AYES). ABSTAIN? (ALBRECHT, ABDI). MOTION PASSES. ITEM FOUR, POLICY UPDATE. [00:38] **Nick Johnson (Planning Manager)**: OUR NEXT MEETING IS MAY 11TH. WE HAVE A PRIVATELY INITIATED CODE AMENDMENT FOR K-12 SCHOOLS IN THE I-2 DISTRICT. MAY 25TH IS A CITY ORDINANCE ON MOBILE FOOD UNIT HOURS. [00:39] **Chair Tim Roeman**: I WOULD NOTE WE HAVE OPENINGS FOR THREE SEATS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. APPLICATIONS ARE DUE MAY 7TH. IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED. SEEING NO OTHER BUSINESS, WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL MAY 11TH.