[0:52] Mayor Clint Hohman: one owner what's I'll show it to you uh good evening we'll call this meeting to order for the February 22nd 2024 Apple Valley city council meeting uh before we get started this evening I want to take a moment to honor three Heroes who lost their lives uh in the line of duty on Sunday officer Paul elmr officer Matthew rugi firefighter Adam fth doing their jobs to protect other when they paid the ultimate sacrifice Sunday morning it's a stark reminder of the very real risks our Public Safety professionals face every day on the job i' ask that you keep their families their friends co-workers and honestly all of our Public Safety community in your prayers in the coming weeks and months please join me in a moment of silence to honor and remember officer elstran officer rugie and firefighter fth thank you please join me for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag FL United States of America to the stand One Nation God indivisible with liy and justice for all next item on our agenda is to approve the agenda Tom do we have any changes [2:58] Tom Lawell: Mr May council members good evening uh no changes to tonight's agenda [3:03] Mayor Clint Hohman: no changes do we have a motion to approve the agenda [3:10] Council Member Bergman: a move [3:11] Council Member Meander: second [3:12] Mayor Clint Hohman: motion from council member Bergman second from council member Mander all those in favor indicate by saying I I I opposed agenda carries the next item is the audience participation portion of this meeting this is for items not on the agenda I did not grab the signup seat do we cheat do we have anyone who would like to speak all right seeing none we will close the audience participation portion and we'll move on to the consent agenda these items are considered routine and will be enacted with a single motion as a council member or citizen request to pull an item council members are there any items You' like to pull no anyone from the audience all right seeing none do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda [3:55] Council Member Goodwin: [Motion] [3:56] Council Member Bergman: second [3:57] Mayor Clint Hohman: motion from council member Goodwin and a second from council member Bergman all those in favor indor saying I I opposed consent agenda carries we move on to the regular agenda uh which is item 5A and uh Pam has this item these are resolutions reappointing our commissioners and committee members [4:13] Pam Gackstetter: thank you Mr Mayor members of the council as the city council is aware the city of Apple Valley has six advisory committees which serve the city council each committee has five to seven seats with staggering terms expiring on March 1st in accordance with Minnesota statutes and Apple Valley city code and resolutions establishing committees and membership terms 10 members have terms expiring this year the members with terms expiring are Cemetery advisory committee member Timothy Anderson Jan Monroe Parks and Recreation advisory member Dave freed planning Commissioners Philip mahok and Becky sandal telecommunications advisory committee member Barry Burke Traffic Safety advisory committee members Charles gr and David McKenzie and urban Affairs advisory committee members an Arn and Sharon Schwarz all members have expressed interest in continuing to serve on their respective committees there are six resolutions which have been prepared for you which will reappoint the members with expiring terms all Comm committees have three-year terms expiring on March 1st 2027 if the city council is ready to reappoint all the members as presented Council May adopt those resolutions with one motion and I'm happy to answer any questions you have [5:32] Mayor Clint Hohman: thank you Pam are there any questions regarding the reappointments I have a motion to to approve the entire slate [5:38] Council Member Goodwin: so Mo [5:39] Council Member Bergman: second [5:40] Mayor Clint Hohman: motion from council member Goodwin a second from council member Bergman all those in favor indicate by saying I I opposed uh 5 a carries and Pam you also have 5B [6:00] Pam Gackstetter: thank you Mr Mr Mayor on January 11th the city council authorized receipt of applications through February 16th to fill the vacancy on the Planning Commission with a three-year term expiring March 1st 2026 because only one application was received by the date staff suggested the city council extend the application period through March 15th for a listening audience who may be interested in volunteering to serve on the Planning Commission or any committee or commission details regarding this vacancy and the application is on on our City's website members of the Planning Commission must be residents of Apple Valley if the city council would like to extend the appliation period staff suggests Council make a motion inviting individuals interested in serving on the Planning Commission to submit an application to the city clerk by March 15th [6:47] Mayor Clint Hohman: any questions for Pam not we would entertain a motion to extend the period for receipt of applications for the Planning Commission [6:55] Council Member Meander: so moved [6:56] Council Member Goodwin: second [6:57] Mayor Clint Hohman: a motion from council member Mander a second from council member Goodwin I might have a couple questions you were up first Tom [7:02] Council Member Meander: uh not a question but a comment for anybody watching I served on the Planning Commission for quite some time I know that uh Mr Bergman did as well uh it was I found it to be very fulfilling uh it's an interesting position uh it has to do with land use and the future of Apple Valley uh Apple Valley has the nice spot of having quite a bit of development still to go it's not like we're dealing with porch setbacks and uh that some mature communities Columbia Heights some of the other ones uh deal with where it's all routine stuff there's interesting uh stimulating and and uh things that affect the future of the city that uh I'm hoping we all love I sure do U so I'd encourage anybody that might be sitting on the fence to uh to apply for this uh this openting on the Planning Commission cuz is it it really is a a good deal thanks [7:59] Council Member Goodwin: council member a good one uh thank you mayor um do we have a do we have a Park seat up too Park and rock committee would this me an appropriate time to ask for we already have that we have one out there already oh we've already done that [8:21] Pam Gackstetter: already out there as well okay I'm sorry forget it I think the dead deadline is close to the same I think think so yes I think it is so on that application you can indicate your first and second choices of committees so you could you if you were interested in serving right you could you could throw one application in and indicate a first and second choice and from there [8:48] Mayor Clint Hohman: all right we have a motion and a second Pam did you know who had those because I have forgotten thank you uh so we'll just go we have a motion in a second all those in favor indicate by saying I I I can oppose that item carries that's the last of our regular agenda we'll move on to staff and Council Communications Tom I know we have at least one staff item once you get yours up we'll get y [9:06] Tom Lawell: yes Mr Mayor we have two tonight uh we would like to invite up our police chief Nick Francis and our city clerk pamg also has an update [9:17] Mayor Clint Hohman: perfect then we'll get I know council's got a few comments as well we'll get those after we get staff items done okay or as they fit in neatly in here we'll see how it goes [9:26] Police Chief Nick Francis: Mr Mayor members of the council first off thanks for the uh moment of silence there at the beginning of the tonight's meeting U burnsville's loss is going to take a little while for all of us to recover from uh so I appreciate just a little time there of of reflection um I've been to a bunch of events this last week uh from schools to Rotary meetings to council meeting to um youth hockey games and every single one of those has included a moment of silence I think which shows just the the depth at which this tragedy has um affected the community as a whole so uh Burnsville was the epicenter of that tragedy they lost three Public Safety professionals that day um if you move outside of Burnsville on the law enforcement side some of the other agencies really close had people there we had Apple Valley officers in the street under heavy gunfire and we are very very lucky that um we did not lose anymore we're lucky that we didn't lose a large number of officers that day um and I'll count my blessings that uh our folks from Apple Valley were able to come come home um since then our department has seen an outpouring of support our city our community comes out like no other in in good times and bad and I would say um businesses School community members neighbors friends all of them are coming out uh right now which is it's appreciated and it's probably needed more now than than any time we've needed it in the past um my ask as the chief uh for the community is is to support us but also also take that next step and stand with us and and there's a distinction there supporting us is one thing standing with us is another and we have so many opportunities here comes the segue to stand with us our department offers so many opportunities throughout the year to learn about us to come and spend time with us to get to know not just what we do but who we are um and I think that's where true relationships and trust is built in the community is through events much like artine Academy which is coming up um that's coming and that is um dedicated towards or or a aimed towards our teens who maybe they're interested in law enforcement maybe they just want to know a little bit more about it um as a young driver I was really interested to speak with the officers and kind of get to know uh what their advice was to Young Drivers and so on so uh this is an opportunity we've hled for a number of years to get kind of behind the scenes look um it is partnered with the Apple Valley Police Department the Rosemont police department and this year the Dakota County Sheriff's Office um students get to come in get to meet our staff uh get to play with equipment get to do mock traffic stops get to ask any question they want uh it runs Tuesday night 6:00 to 8:30 uh through the month of April registration is open right now and we uh recommend folks go on the website um I believe it's about 25 um is the cap uh we would be certainly happy if there was overwhelming demand and we needed to add a class or or uh add more seats in there um so please to the public check that out um and I'll I'll close with saying is this morning there was 263 different law enforcement agencies in the state of Minnesota recruiting police officers uh so that doesn't mean 263 positions some like Minneapolis are recruiting their hundreds short uh so there is no shortage of um of opportunities in Minnesota for the law enforcement side um events like what happened in Burnsville it it serves as a reminder every day like you said of the sacrifices that these Public Safety professionals um uh give and the sacrifices they're willing to make every single day uh but I would argue it also serves as a motivator to to step in and to be one of the providers of Public Safety uh you think about some of the conflicts overseas and that motivates people to to serve um I would say we could use this as an opportunity to say this this is uh the profession we have uh whether you are looking at law enforcement fire EMF EMTs we're hiring there's big signs we've been hiring we're all doors wide open we're hiring uh and we would love to have people come and learn about um us a little bit more so um with that motivator again we will continue to offer um offer opportunities for the public to come and and get to know us and learn about our professions I know the fire department does a ton of them too um our paramedics are very active in the community letting people know what they do and and how they do do a great job um and we'll continue to offer those in hopes that people will uh not only support us but stand with us and maybe um eventually work with us so we're as a profession Public Safety in general is is uh pretty short um and pretty uh understaffed and so it's going to take us a number of years uh so we'll start with the youngest in the community and say hey if you want to learn about us come and and the doors open so appreciate the opportunity go ahead go ahead I had another question [14:28] Council Member Goodwin: SRO where are we with those [14:31] Police Chief Nick Francis: um our SRO are still in the schools we're working on some legislation I'm talking about the legislation what's going on with that y the stakeholders the state stakeholders are uh have a united front from the law enforcement side at least that they're they're in the room and and having conversations and everyone's um pretty optimistic that okay some some relief will be had [15:02] Council Member Bergman: thanks mayor Nick in regards to this teen Academy I think it's phenomenal uh the question I have for you and it doesn't it correlates but it's at a different time frame we in the past or the city in the past has had the citizens Police Academy which is the adults I took it was part of it um when I was in the Planning Commission and it was very interesting my person next to me was uh hearing impaired so we got to have uh I think it's Miss sent SI ET who used to be a firefighter his wife was the sign language person but I just wondered are we still going to continue that program also [15:35] Police Chief Nick Francis: yes yep that one takes place in the fall we've had uh good attendance with that every year and we partner with Roseman on that one as well [15:43] Mayor Clint Hohman: all right thank you Nick before you uh return to your seat just two other quick things I got to see uh council member key from Burnsville last night and uh was complimentary of all of the mutual Aid you guys been a big part of that but uh you guys are riding all of the service between the Dakota County agencies and the others to Burnsville so that the rest of the staff there can take their time and you know that's coming off of your own folks right being In the Heat of the battle kind of thing on Sunday so I just thanks everybody for stepping up and taking care of your own uh through this as well so the works been noticed and appreciate it and we appreciate it too um the other thing is um I've had a number of people just reach out hey how do we how do we donate I think l l l.org has a benevolent Officers Association we know that's a legit one yep as much as you hate to see it and if something bad happens we also get those who want to uh profit off of the bad and so we know that's a good one right we know there's other good ones out there yep [16:40] Police Chief Nick Francis: yeah and I know um on Burnsville side um Prince of piece is if you if you're a business and you're you want to donate a case of water or a crate of water or whatever a prince of piece has taken that in and and they're doing great things with it they run a shelter or a food shelf out of there so people that want to give something there's opportunities to give that is going to help heal the the community as a whole I think burnsville's website has a pretty good running list of where things are going on and those kind of opportunities for people to check that out as well yes and as we get closer to the funeral here those details will come out what I've seen through Burnsville is uh uh the the website burnsville.mn updates y uh so if people want to tune in um again it affects everybody around Burnsville is the Hub that there that's where uh this took place and and they are leading the the information exchange getting that out correct [17:34] Council Member Bergman: thank John you have something else before we one other thing Clinton I I discussed it with Clint last night um I saw it on the on the television and I also believe television is in our local television has done a really good job of of uh being upfront honest and personable about all this situation um The Bureau I think has also done a really good job to keep everybody informed but what's really nice is everybody's hugging around every everybody in doing this my question to you um to everybody or comment to everybody was I also last night um and I and I'm one of the ones that when the legisl legislators decided to allow motans to have the black license place okay I like them well they were hard to come by at fir they're still hard to come by but the group the license plate that's out there for public service officials or can be purchased Nick you might want to talk about it it's the plate 100 you know the the group that has the plate it says Public Service underneath and it's got a red line underneath my understanding last night of watching this there was those plates don't go to the state but there's a percentage that goes to law enforcement police in ambulance in that public service and that's how these three officers and there may be other things involved in but these three officers because of those plates being sold each of them were being money was given to them in in the excess of $50,000 each of them so if you would like to say something in regards to those plates I um a way of supporting what's out there [19:09] Police Chief Nick Francis: in yeah absolutely there's all sorts of different special series plates uh and folks can pay for the registration but if they want to pay for the special series plates whether uh you're an Outdoorsman and you want to you donate to the DNR uh you're a veteran or um you support or a part of the the public safety um family uh that money goes and and then is directed yeah to to needs of um Public Safety so that's a great uh great point and a great way to thank you way to honor yep [19:35] Tom Lawell: thanks Nick thanks Tom you had something over there yeah thank you mayy I just wanted to reiterate uh what you had already started to say that uh after this event there's been ongoing needs in the city of Burnsville and uh certainly our Police Department uh has been dedicating Personnel to assist and covering shifts also the fire Department uh many fire departments have put together Crews and are using basically 12-hour shifts of Manning Staffing the uh the needs for fire in the city of Burnsville and the city of Burnsville has also asked for some non-public safety personnel to also assist and so uh I think they have sent that out to about 40 different communities to say do you have anybody else that can assist us so uh under the existing Mutual Aid agreements that we have and the standing resolution that we have that allows us to allocate our resources outside of our City boundaries when necessary uh we'll probably be doing that as well so we want Burnsville to get back on their feet as best they can uh we're all there to help them support them and get through this this terrible tragedy so um we'll continue to do so until they tell us they no longer need the help [20:43] Mayor Clint Hohman: great thank you thank you Council any other items [20:46] Council Member Goodwin: council member uh good with yes I have I think a very important item I talked to councilman Mander about this stud and I also talked about to about it with City administrator lell there's a very troubling piece of legislation up I think it's troubling having to do with zoning or taking away zoning rights or whatever and uh when I stopped in to see Mr lell about it this morning I caught him just before he was going to a meeting where they were discussing that so I'm wondering if Mr lell can tell us anything about that meeting today and just what's going on [21:26] Tom Lawell: Mr mayor council member Goodwin uh happy to do so Council m goodan is referring to a bill that has been proposed at the at the capital it's house file 401 and Senate file 3980 and uh both of those include a number of items that would preempt City's General authority over land use matters and uh this is these are Troublesome Provisions uh I won't that's what we do here I won't read the whole uh bill but a couple of items that stand out is concern uh it would set a base level of density allowed on any residential lot by right that would be at least two units per lot and in certain cases it could be as much as 10 units per lot it forces administrative approvals for projects that meet the standards in the bill and it prohibits public input on the approval process you hit that last one one more time what might be most disturbing is this is this statement here so once the the provisions of the bill would be in effect it would force administ rate of approvals for projects that meet the standards of the bill language and prohibits public input on the approval process and that is certainly counter to the way we have operated and the Planning Commission that was just mentioned uh we pride ourselves on the public input that is provided in those uh those forums and this is very Troublesome to see that that might be limited it also limits the minimum lot size requirements for City such as ours to 4,000 square ft which is smaller than normal requires all cities accept accessory dwelling units on all residential lots regardless of size and allows Property Owners to subdivide their Lots by right prohibits off street parking from being required close to Major Transit stops and limits off street parking minimum requirements to one spot per unit in other areas allows multif family buildings to be built up to 150 ft tall on any commercial zoning district and it broadly prohibits design standards for residential development and eliminates minimum storage uh minimum square footage and floor area ratio requirements so uh cities throughout the state are very concerned um the league of Minnesota cities metro cities and the municipal legislative commission are all organizations that we belong to that assist us at the capital they are all in opposition to this and there needs to be some moderation in this bill this would significantly change the way that we do business uh you will know that the city has operates under a 10-year comprehensive plan all cities in the metro area have a 10-year comprehensive plan that sets forth in a very prescriptive way uh our planning uh objectives it matches the infrastructure capacities uh by increasing density in the way that this could potentially allow our water system could be impacted our sewer system could be impacted storm water requirements could be impacted so we just believe that uh this hasn't been very well thought out out in the way that this would affect cities uh if they wish to go these directions it's going to need to be a longer lead time we're going to need to update our comprehensive plan assess our infrastructure to make certain that it can accommodate additional densities but certainly a number of things here that are Troublesome and uh we just want to make sure that the the public is aware of this conversation going on at the Capal and to weigh in either in favor or against these types of Provisions thank you Tom [25:05] Council Member Bergman: thanks uh administrator LEL what is uh who's the sponsor of this bill I I've heard about it but I haven't really paid attention to whose name and signature is with this [25:12] Tom Lawell: I can look up the actual author what I've been told is that it has a broad support and that that support includes uh certainly housing first an organization that uh used to be called the Builders Association that has changed its name it includes the Minnesota Chamber of Commerce it includes the um I've heard the Sierra Club I've heard a group called Neighbors for more neighbors and many other uh folks that are lining up and that this is a bar bipartisan supported bill so this isn't just one party or the other advocating for this so it appears that the number of supporters has certainly grown over time and U oftentimes these kinds of bills do get floated but eventually they go nowhere this one appears to have more momentum and we're expecting some changes to occur this year and we need to have some revisions to this bill to make it more workable for cities like ours [26:04] Council Member Goodwin: C good you have something else sir yes I did mayor thank you um when this Bill gets to the point where we think it's going to move forward or maybe before that I'd like you to come back to this Council and report on that so we can at least tell our local legislators what our feeling is and perhaps the county the city council could take a position on it I should already know well yeah but I think we should take a position on it so there's no misunderstanding about it y now I can't control how anybody votes at the state legislature but if we take a position as a city and our legislators know it at least I know where that the people who they represent in this city how we feel [26:55] Council Member Meander: thanks Tom council member Mander um government overreach has uh been a concern of mine for quite a while uh I think that I'm I have a lot of folks feel the same way I do about I want to live my life with a minimum of government supervision if if what I'm doing influences my own life that's fine but uh I've got a right for my own life and I don't have other folks don't have the right to infringe on my right to live my life uh if I'm not hurting anybody else um uh under the guise of doing good frequently uh bad things happen there's a I had the privilege of some excellent English teachers over my my school life and uh the word that comes to mind is is after clap there's a you hear a a a a bolt of lightting boom and frequently there's a reverberation that's the after clap so uh you do something and you think wow this is going to be great well the after clap is the natural and and an inevitable followup is something that you don't like that's not so good but you can't have the first one without the second one so should this go through it's going to be devastating for I mentioned planning before uh for the rights of cities to drive their own bus to make their own decisions to work to decide on their own future to have impacts on how their own city is run uh and it's with I'm sure some kind of noble um motivation but I don't think it's carefully thought through and uh God hope that they don't carry this farther I think in their Zeal and the lack of have somebody pulling on the other side of the Rope uh the legislature has has kind of gone crazy here and uh uh it's uh in any negotiating situation uh inevitably somebody else uh is pulling on the other end of the rope and you're and you're not pulling on your end of the Rope uh and that'll come back to bite you so uh I would hope that there'd be some Mo some moderation and some consideration uh of government overreach when it comes to this that's all I have to say [29:32] Council Member Goodwin: the only thing I go ahead council member well is I'm looking at my own experience I've lived here 44 years and I lived first 21 years in a single family neighborhood and that's what I wanted well the kids left my wife and I got older we didn't want to take care of a swimming pool anymore in a big yard so what did we do we went to essentially multif family housing we went to a duplex I have no problem with duplexes and Tow houses and apartments to a certain degree but this nonsense where they can go into a single family neighborhood and and somebody can in theory under this bill if you have a neighbor if you live in a single family neighborhood you could have a neighbor that decides well maybe I should have a duplex here just build one or or convert their house to a duplex or something this thing is just insane and uh that's why and I've talked to Mr benetti about it a little bit too and I'm sure that Mr benetti and Mr lell are going to be following it very closely but this thing is scary it is absolutely scary [30:42] Mayor Clint Hohman: just wrap this up with um this is one of what I believe is time 10 or 12 in that list of um preemption bills I'll call them for lack of a better term but really looking to move power out of what cities can control and and really taking it to the state which may in some ways sound good to some people but I want to think about that right we've had these Chambers full uh when we developed the old golf course right we took public input we got to a better place um I've testified on a number of bills at the capital right and there's a process for input there but it doesn't allow you to have the same level of voice and input as a typical citizen would have walking into these Chambers finding me at the grocery store right find any of us at the grocery store come and talk about what they in their neighborhood and so this is probably the most impactful one I would say all those preemption bills though have some level of the same thing where you know it's a one- siiz fits-all but it is taking away what I think works best in local government which is whatever decision I make or we make right I have to go live with in every part of town I go to right I I have to go have dinner with these people at a restaurant I get to see them there I get to go to the office and and uh talk to them there we lose that are are your state legislators going to be as responsive and as available to you when you have something going on in your neighborhood I don't think so and so that's my fear is this bill is one of them but it's this overarching trend it started last year and I would say the marijuana the cannabis bill last year was a prime example of want push that uh responsibility to the state and taking away City's ability to regulate an intoxicating substance and we're seeing more of that so that's my bigger concern uh Tom did you have something over there [32:20] Tom Lawell: just to answer the prior question uh so there are a number of bills that are together proposing what I described uh house file 4010 and Senate file 3980 authored by representative Alicia Kowski and Senator Susan fa and then the other one of concern is house file 4009 Senate file 3964 called the middle missing middle housing Bill authored by representative Larry craft and Senator Nicole Mitchell so those are the Bills in particular that we're concerned about and I would say that none of these at least that I've seen have uh anything that tell me this will solve our housing problem none of these address affordability none of these address the actual missing middle we are taking away some control and we somehow think that's going to fill in a gap I don't have proof of that so [33:38] Council Member Bergman: council member Bergman did you have something else yeah and very good presentation there mayor on that point I sit on a committee that is has a lot of cities involved in it we represent six other cities along with Apple Valley I think maybe some of the state legislators ought to sit on the sit and listen to what all these other cities have um when airplane noise goes goes array um they right now the general public wants a whole lot of meetings they had them a number number of years ago and it gets really vocal when people aren't heard so I would hope sincerely that um the state legislator starts listening to Residents because the residents in the in a little while are going to be beating the the doors down again and maybe they'll learn something and instead of trying to shove things down the residents throats like um certain other certain other um government entities like to do so I hope this does not go through um but I've sat in a number of meetings in the years past in the time that I've been appointed to the city with the city um and it gets pretty dicey and so I don't want that same experience um come here in the local in in the local level because then it is really going to get nasty and and maybe for once the uh our state legislators will learn something [34:55] Mayor Clint Hohman: thanks for everyone for the discussion we'll move on to the calar calend of upcoming events and our next informal city council meeting is Thursday March 14th at 5:30 with our next regular city council meeting Thursday March 14 at 7 pm [35:10] Pam Gackstetter: Mr Mayor members of the council I did want to give just a quick brief update regarding the presidential mation primar got Sidetrack there thank you that's okay since this is the last meeting before the primary which will be held on March 5th the polls will be open that day from 7:00 a.m. to to 8:00 p.m. but for any folks that are interested in receiving an absentee ballot today they can contact Dakota County elections um the municipal center is also open for anyone interested to direct ballot um that would be Monday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. and direct balloting is the process whereby after you fill out your ballot you would insert the ballot into the tabulator yourself we will also be offering extended hours on Saturday March 2nd from 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. and on Monday March 4th from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. and I do want to just uh remind voters that with the presidential nomination primary all voters must select one of our three major uh political parties the ballots only have that particular Pary candidates on the ballot so they will either have to select democratic farmer labor party legal marijuana now party or Republican party and then they must certify that they are in general agreement with the principles of the party for whose candidate they are willing or wanting to vote so um I don't want anyone to be surprised if they go to the polls or request an absentee ballot they will need to declare their party um who would have access to knowing the party would be election judges in completing and filling um the request for ballots as well as the chair of each major political party if you select that party the chair of that party will get your information as well and I just want to make sure that voters are aware of that too and that's all I have today M [37:05] Mayor Clint Hohman: thank you and thank you for the Graces I forgot about you there um but um but seriously between you and the election judges and everybody right we have we have very well-run uh elections and uh we appreciate that and the work that goes into them and your experience behind that and we will miss you in future elections so after next year um I think she for after next year all right uh calendar of upcoming events we have we have a motion to approve the calendar of upcoming events thank you second we have a motion from council member [37:45] Council Member Bergman: Bergman a second from council member [37:47] Council Member Meander: Meander [37:49] Mayor Clint Hohman: all those in favor indicate with saying by saying I iOS that carries do a motion to adjourn [38:00] Council Member Bergman: I moved [38:01] Council Member Goodwin: second [38:02] Mayor Clint Hohman: motion from council member Bergman second from council member Goodwin all those in favor I and we adjourned thank [Music] you [Music]