Work session for the City Council will now commence. Mr. Clanton. Participating remotely in today's meeting. The clerk will read a resolution approving the remote participation of Councilman Clanton. Resolution approving participation to electronic communication needs by Councilman College land in the North. City Council meeting on December 9th, 2025. Somewhere remote location International Waters, Freeport, Bahamas. Due to the personal matter of being approved. Doyle a mr. Johnson I agree Mr.. Mr. speaker I Mr.. Thomas Callahan. Hi Mr.. Roberts. The floor is yours. Thank you. Mayor. Vice mayor, members of city council. At this time, I'd like to take a few moments and provide an overview of the proposed agenda for this afternoon's work session meeting. In the first presentation, which is titled Transatlantic Air Service Regional Fund Jared Chalk, chief business development officer with the Hampton Roads Alliance, will be providing an overview of a proposed funding strategy which has been brought forward by the regional business community in support of air service. That presentation will be followed by the discussion on NRA Norfolk redevelopment. Housing authorities request for private activity multifamily bonds. That presentation will be provided by Steve Morales, vice president of development with the Norfolk Redevelopment Housing Authority. Following that, we'll have a brief presentation by Adam Molina, chief deputy city attorney, who will discuss an update on admissions tax and how that is outlined in city code. Following that, we'll have the standard city planning update from Mr. Tahan, Director of Planning. We also have one item for consideration of a closed session motion. So without objections or amendments to the agenda, I would like to call up mr. chalk with the Hampton Roads Alliance. Without objection. But for Mr. Chuck come I do want to welcome two students from Blair Middle School, Yasmin and Laura, here watching their local government action. Please welcome yesterday morning. Thank you, Mr. Chalk. All right. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Members of council, city manager. It's an honor to be here tonight. I'm glad to be back in Norfolk after a couple of year hiatus. Um, here at this podium. Um, so, again, as the, as the city manager mentioned here to talk about the Norfolk airport and some, some opportunities that are in front of us and, and I'll just tell you, you know, as you all know this, right? This council has been instrumental and and leading a lot of efforts in the economic development and tourism space, whether it's, you know, the cruise ships or some of the some of the redevelopment projects here. But it's really put the airport on a trajectory for growth with 49 or 45 nonstop destinations now and more to come, I will tell you from the Hampton Roads Alliance. And we just rolled out a couple a couple of weeks ago. What we're calling the deal framework. And this is, um, really understanding our regional position, understanding our position in the world and leaning into those strengths. And, and I'll tell you so if you look at the US in general. Right. We are re militarizing. We're reshoring and we're, we're re industrializing and providing for energy security in a much different way than we have in the past. And all of those things really align with Hampton Roads and with Norfolk. And so, you know, as the home to the world's largest naval base, NATO's headquarters in North America, you know, that demand that we that we see around the world, we think is going to continue and be really leveraged into some of the assets here in Hampton Roads. So, again, global events are reshaping the world. You know, NATO is investing heavily in the US. And a lot of that, I'd say, deal flow from an economic development perspective we believe is coming here. And so, you know, with all this growth at the airport and this increased demand. Um, you know, the business community has, has now said, um, you know, you know, when is that next step? When is that transatlantic flight? And so here with Nancy Gurdon, um, with the Hampton Roads Business Roundtable and the business community approached her and her organization and said, you know, how can we, you know, help. How can we help support this growth into the region? And so this is a business driven effort. Um, first and foremost. Um, and and what it would be is the creation of a Hampton Roads transatlantic transatlantic Air service fund. Um, you know, I will tell you that I think this is one tool in the toolbox. Um, you know, obviously the city council here with the being the host community of the airport, um, and actually owning the airport, and then, um, has a lot of levers, you know, it can pull to help again. Um, additional support for, um, for air operations and air Service. You know, a lot of that's tied to marketing demand. You know, the assets that you're doing, things like MacArthur center, military circle redevelopments will also again drive, drive demand this way. So again, this is a revenue mechanism, the alliances role. So why I'm here is just to serve as the fiscal agent. So, um, you know, we share offices with the Business Roundtable, and they look to us as a, an entity that can, you know, if they were to raise money and in coalition from the business community, we would serve as a fiscal agent to that funding. So administrative, we don't do any lobbying. We don't do anything like that. This is just focused on, um, international service. Um, so I guess with that I'll keep it brief. Um, uh, thank you for your time tonight and we'll forward any questions? Questions for Mr. Shah about the fund. Yes. Mrs. Doyle. Who was here to be asking you to fund this fund that you're proposing? I think that the Nancy questions. See? If I can follow up. Thank you, I miss Nancy. Mr. president, CEO of the Hampton Roads Executive Roundtable. We really are a regional group. We are represented by CEOs. They are CEOs that are companies that are domiciled here in the region, as well as companies maybe that have an international presence in a major North American. And so that's really our group. A lot of what we do is we look around the country, how do we make Hampton Roads really competitive with other regions? That's a lot of what we we do and work very closely with the alliance. And so to that end, a lot of what we would do on this, this coalition and fund is, is think about, number one, where can we actually get the funding from private sources and others. So we're actually doing some of that early work right now. Yes. And will you be asking any localities for funding as well to support this effort. This is all. TBD. I think the first step is what Jared was describing earlier. You know, from a process standpoint, the very first thing we needed to do was, number one show that there's business community support in the region and by having both of our organisations, the roundtable and the alliance, that's step number one. Step number two is then putting together the coalition and the resolution that we have an intention to do this. So that's really where we are at this point. Yeah. And then this in any way upend or change the governance of Norfolk International Airport. Uh, that's the intention is not to do any of that. The intention is to try to support getting transatlantic flights here into the region. That's simple. Yeah, that's that's really what our mission is now. Yeah. We have some more directly. The resolution does not include any change or suggested change which you couldn't do anyway. You don't. That's not in your right. You're not in your framework or you're not at all. Not at all. No, no, it's purely it's purely you have to get we have to get started somewhere. And the first step is to show this community support for this whole information, because we would be honestly one of the big users of transatlantic service. So that's. It. Just switch over that door. You get started somewhere. Um, how I read this. This is a transatlantic service region fund, so it's very specific. So that's the start and end of what you're asking us to consider to, to, to to vote to establish a fund. Yeah, exactly. So, so the. Business Roundtable would like to establish upon which obviously we would lead the Aussie alliance in the city as guidance. But it's just to establish the fund to go have these conversations with airlines. You've got to sort of say, hey, the business community supports this effort. And so some regions, frankly, can't even get the business committee to come together to make this. So this would just be established on that to. Do other proposed amendments. The resolution what was shared is the only document as it works that that you know of. That's correct. Yeah. Any other questions for Nancy? We're here. Well, thank you both for what you do. Really appreciate you coming to share. All right, Mr. Roberts. Thank you sir. I'll ask Steve Morales to take the lectern again. This presentation deals with NRA's request for private activity. Multifamily bonds. Hello, everyone. My name is Deborah Stephens. I'm the chief housing and real estate officer at NRA. I'm joined here with Steve Morales. He's the vice president of real estate. Um, so we're here to present, um, two bonds. Uh, one is Broad Creek phase one, and the other one is the Tidewater Gardens that you're familiar with. Rock Creek. Um, the developer is the community builders. Affectionately known. As TCB. We are co-developer. And. Honest with them. You see, they're the architect. General contractor, relocation and other entities that are part of the project team. Um. Project summary. There are 64 units that are going to be project based, uh, through the Rental Assistance Demonstration program. Um, 88 units in total. Uh, so 64 will be, uh, rad. Nine will be market and the rest will be light tech. There's going to be full interior renovations, wood trim, windows, roofing. Um, no off site relocation. Um, it's going to be more of a checkerboard or, um. Some residents will, um, move in place. Um, energy. Uh, N.R.A. Will hold a long term ground lease with it. and pressing up to $9 million of multifamily bonds. This is just a site map of the different phases. Uh, there are three phases. Um, fortunately, uh, you've got, um, phase one, um, looking at completion in 2027. Phase two and completion in 2028. Phase three also in 28. Um, the different, uh, renovations will be, uh, the site work, repair of crack roads, streets, um, sidewalks, asphalt, things like that. Uh, architectural, uh, exterior renovations would be some waterproofing. Insulation. Roof shingles, exterior wood trim, railings, handrails, um, etc.. Interior again is going to be painting new kitchen cabinets, um, garbage disposal, new appliances, uh, repair and fire proofing. Um units will be painted throughout. All shower sinks and fixtures will be replaced. Uh, new toilets as needed. Um, uh, replace all appliances including refrigerators, ranges, hoods, dishwashers and microwaves. Uh, flooring, new flooring throughout. Uh, some will be LBGT. Uh, in the bedrooms, you'll have carpet, uh, in the mechanicals you will, um, the HVAC system will be replaced. Water heaters, uh, currently are more than five years old, so the useful life is wearing out. Um, lighting fixtures will be all new, LED, um, to replace all plumbing fixtures and accessories. Um, so this is just a summary chart of residence rights to return. Um, so the tenant will pay 30% of the household income. That's the same with public housing. Uh, and rad, um, is a flat rent that will increase over three years. Um, the initial eligibility is, uh, 80% of Ami or less, uh, existing PF residents, regardless of income, they're allowed in, um, right to return. Both get that. Uh, tenant screening is not applicable to, uh, public housing residents. There's no screening upon conversion. Uh, monthly uh, choice mobilities not applicable for public housing. Um, and the tenant, uh, the folks who are going with tenant vouchers after 12 months, they could get or request a tenant voucher. Uh, so. President. Council. Um. Tenant service bonds, grievance procedures and eviction protections and lease renewals are all applicable to both residents, public housing and park. Uh, so this is just a schedule. So we're here today, uh, December 25th, um, final, uh, N.R.A. Action is going to take place somewhere around February 2026. The closing of the financing in June of 26. Renovations to begin shortly after, uh, and completed in 2027. Kindred. Um, phase two B-2. Uh, developer is Renshaw. Uh, you're very familiar with this project, so I won't spend too much time on it. This is, uh, phase B2 named Kendrick Apartments. That's 101 unit. Um. It makes, uh, 47 replacement units, 33 affordable units and 21 market units. Um, total, uh, TDC is approximately $51 billion. And here you see, uh, the site map, uh, for type water gardens. And the proposed, um, scheduled project schedule. So we have the action here now in December of 2025. I have, uh, January 26th, if we can get it in. Uh, final action is in April of 26. Closing of financing is in May of 26. Construction begins in June of 26, and construction completion is December 2028. I went through that really fast because I know we're short of time, and I was told to keep it concise and tight. So I hope I did that. You're just fine. Um, yes, Mr. Page. Thank you for the presentation. My question is a little bit off topic. Uh, notice of light out in the media and outside about. What's going on in Calgary. Uh, square. Uh, as to the heat not working. Do you guys have any update as to what's going on with that? Sure. Um, I have with me also, uh, Brenda Fleming, she's the VP of, uh, property management. Uh, as chief, I also oversee property management, uh, client services, rental assistance and real estate. Um, one of the things that we did was, um, first go is, uh, resident focus. So, um, initially, um, we offered, uh, tenants to, um, move into the hotel, so we offered the whole hotel stay. Currently. Now we're offering, um, to transfer them, um, to another site on the property. Um, we are also giving rent concessions. Uh, and we also are offering, um, hotel stays. So it's the, um, extended stay hotels. We want to go to a hotel. They can they want to move or transfer it to another unit. They can. Uh, we're also offering the rent concessions. And that's been putting space heaters in in places that, uh, could. Could receive every single unit that was down. Do we know when the work will be completed out there? This coziness don't right now. Um. Uh. That's okay. You weren't prepared for this, but you can get this to me after. Okay? I can. Get that to. You. And how many units are still without heat? Okay. Currently it is 18 units still without heat. And the issue is that the, um, it's on a boiler system and it has a subsurface piping that goes all the properties. Um, it's that subsurface piping that we have in trouble with. Um, it's very old and as you can imagine, uh, rusty. And so it's, it's what's giving out, uh, and leaking. And so when we start to repair it, we find that the leak is we think the leak is here, but then the leak ends up down here, then it ends up down here. So we're trenching out, and unfortunately, we've had terrible weather. So Friday we got rained out. So yesterday we got rain and snow. So we're having some issues, but we're looking at, um, both temporary and permanent options to replace that piping and also to replace um, the system valve, uh, that, that moves all the water. So there's three current pipes is piping for the boiler and there's domestic water piping. And we're changing all that valve work out. Thank you. Corey Brooks has been tremendous in helping us. On the 47 replacement. Units. Do you know if those are project based or section eight? Um, those are primarily. Project based. And it's project based. Section eight. It's the two. Aren't they two different things if. They're. Project. Based is means. Project based section eight. So instead of the voucher being a tenant voucher where the resident can take that, it's it's the project. It's not it's not transferable. Right. So so these are going to be public housing permanently. They are they. Are not public housing. They are project. They're under the project. They're under the section eight program. Are we. There aren't section nine going on section nine. And is this for which? Which bond project? The phase two. Phase V2 of kindred. The 47 replacement units. So one of the four things is part of kin kindred in the redevelopment of Tidewater Gardens was we're not rebuilding public housing. And so any of the replacement units are part of the mixed income community, and those are under the section eight program. Do we have a reservation? That was the information I thank you. All right. Any additional questions for Mr. Morales or. Yes, Mr. Johnson? Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um. First of all, thank. You for coming in. Um, next, one of the things that I've requested in the past is the last minute requests by NRI. You are fully aware. of the projects that you're planning to have done, but you continue to bring to the council at the last minute asking for approval for your projects? Um, I cannot support that because, um, it's been requested of you over and over again not to do that. Um, it's very important that I, and I cannot speak for my colleagues, but it's very important for me to be able to study exactly what you're asking for and to collaborate with my council members, as well as my city manager, my mayor, and my legal counsel. Um, also, what you're asking to do, uh, now for Brock Creek. Where. I live. Mr. Morales, you've been knowing me for years now, and you should know that this is not one of my expectations. As a matter of fact, during the pandemic in RJ and Te Water builders. TCB, the community builders. Community. Yes. Um, we had several meetings. I took the lead in doing the sub committee meetings to get the information to bring back to NHRA so that we could clearly be on the same page as far as the expectations were for Brock Creek. And you seen before me tonight. Um. Disrespecting the work that I've done for Brock Creek and for this same project that you're asking me to approve. Um, and I do have all of the documentation of the small work groups that we have. You have not gone to the community for that input. That doesn't happen in Broad Creek. It's not going to happen in Ward three. Um, I want to know your master plan for the relocation. Although you say you're not going to relocate the citizens, the residents of Brock Creek. I want a master plan. I asked that the last time. Um, and I don't understand what checkerboard means. So you. If you could get back with me on what checkerboard means. I don't know what that means. Um, also, you gave a clear, um, layout of what your deadline is, but again, it's always last minute requests coming to the the city council. I want to know about a ground lease. What does that mean? What is the rent and how often you talked about the rent increases? Well, one thing that we've noticed when there's renovations going on within a year or so, the residents rents increase. So I want to know the timeline. I also, in your previous, um, discussions with the city council, you continue to hear me talk about washers and dryers. Why is it that doing the renovations, we're still having residents to pay to wash and dry their clothes? Um, and I want to see the materials and the window replacements, um, of the housing and Brock Creek, because the windows are awful. The lighting is not good. And yes, I have taken Team Norfolk out there to completely view the site. Yes, I do have a problem with your management system. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Do we have any questions related to the multifamily bond request? That's of course correct. Thank you. That's correct. Thank you. The next presentation is just an admissions tax code update. Adam Molina, chief deputy city attorney. We'll provide that report. Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Members of city council. Um, I'm just going to spend a few minutes, um, giving you, um, uh, heads up about some small adjustments to the admissions tax program. Um, that we are contemplating in order to resolve some questions that have arisen about the scope of the tax. Um, just a quick history. The admissions tax in Norfolk dates from 1946. Um, at that time it was, quote, $0.01 for every $0.10. So I think my math is correct. It's a 10% tax. It's a 10% tax today. It hasn't changed, um, since 1946. Um, at that time, it was enacted each year and revised from time to time. Finally, it was codified when the city adopted the 1979 city code, the city code that we have today that we are using and amending from time to time. So it's right there, spelled out in city code, but it's essentially the same 10% tax that we've had since 1946. Like the food and beverage tax and the lodging tax, it is an excise tax. It's a tax paid by the consumer. So for the admissions tax, the person who buys the ticket, the ticket holder is the tax payer, and the seller of the ticket is essentially collecting the tax on behalf of the city and then holding it in trust until they remit it to the treasurer. And those remittances are due monthly, and they're due on the 20th of the month after, um, the month in which the ticket was sold. Um, with the rise of the reseller services and reseller apps in the last 10 to 15 years, we decided we needed to clean up the admissions tax language. We first did this with the lodging tax we were seeing with short term rentals and the advent of Airbnb and Expedia Group, that those online intermediaries that were arranging the connection between the buyer and the seller and then facilitating the transaction, managing the funds. Those were the people that were in the best position to be levying and attaching the tax and then collecting it and remitting it to us. And so we saw the development first or or most extensively in the lodging tax and with some enabling legislation from the Commonwealth, we amended our lodging tax in order to make sure that those intermediaries would be collecting our lodging tax and remitting it. So then we turned our attention to the admissions tax. The same sort of intermediary activity, mostly online, is occurring there. You have the reseller app, StubHub, SeatGeek, and there are even online ticketing agents like Eventbrite who are now providing some of these services. And they're operating in that cloud economy. And so they are in the best position when they're identifying the buyer and the seller or the reseller of a ticket to capture that tax. So we set about doing that cleanup the same way we did with the lodging tax. And this council approved that in December of last year. And those changes went live on January 1st of 2025. So with that clean up, we did a few other things. We clarified exactly how the service charge exemption would work. We dropped some of the antiquated language that was a holdover from 1946, like vaudeville performances and something called Leap the Dips, which I had to look up. Um, Leap the Dips is apparently the trade name of the oldest wooden roller coaster in the world. It's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. If you're in Altoona anytime soon, you might want to check it out. So we removed tickets for Leap the Dips as well, and we modernized some of the language and cleaned up some redundancies that were there following that cleanup during the course of 2025. The Commissioner of the Revenue Staff began implementing the cleaned up, tighter version of the of the admissions tax, and they started to hear from some taxpayers who didn't realize that they were covered by the tax, or they didn't exactly understand what their obligations were under the tax. The language was a bit clearer. The commissioner's office was telling them what they needed to do and what their obligations were. And that started a bit of a discussion as to whether in just revising and cleaning up the tax, whether we had it targeted and functioning the way it ought to be. And so over several months, we've looked at it and we've agreed that some of the issues raised probably do merit some more simplification. And so we set about doing that. So we now have available it's not on your agenda tonight, but it is available and can be pocketed When the management is ready or at the council's pleasure, a clean a new revision to the admissions tax that addresses some of the simplifications that have been asked for. The proposal would tighten up the definition of place of amusement, to make it clearer for people to understand whether the location where they're having their event is the location where the tax applies or not. Um, we've clarified we can clarify that participation in special ticketed sporting events is not taxable. So if you're a participant in the fun run or in the charity golf game, you are not obligated to pay the tax. You are not one of the excise tax payers that can and probably should be clarified. Um, and then we think there is still some confusion about the service charge while we've nailed down what portion of a tax. I'm sorry, what portion of a ticket sale is not taxable as a service charge? And what portion is There still seems to be some confusion about that. And we've made another cut at making that cleaner. Um, in this revision. So we've worked with the commissioner revenue staff. It took some back and forth. Um, we now, um, I, they have represented to me that they understand that this simplification will be manageable for them. It may make enforcement should make enforcement and collection easier for them. Um, they are now prepared to adjust their assessment work to match for this, to match these revisions they are requesting a delayed effectiveness date. So something like January 1st, 2026 or March 1st, 2026 so that as they work with some of the taxpayers who've been asking and have been confused, they can go ahead and say, look, we've got this version. We can tell you exactly what you have to do or what you don't have to do, but those are all simplifications that we have available. And we'll bring to you, um, um, at your discretion. Do you have any questions? Yes. Mr. Smeagol. Um. I knew that. There was a new law in Virginia dealing with service fees. Um, and I just want to make sure I was just reading about it the other day. Um, when there's a service fee charged on a ticket for, like, a credit card or something like that, it's supposed to only be for a credit card, not for debit cards. Um, on that, the fee is supposed to only cover what the credit card company charges. Um, I don't know if this has anything to. You said service fee, so I just want to make sure. And there's also some limitations on service fees and what can be charged with that. So I just write about this only because, uh, a lot of restaurants now are starting to charge a service fee if you use your card and not pay cash, but a lot of them are overcharging because they're just putting a blanket amount that you have to pay. $1.25. But that might not be the percentage. And it's only supposed to be for credit cards, not for debit cards. So I'm going to challenge it the next time I eat at a restaurant and they tell me I have to pay, but I just want to make sure that that part's worked out. And I and I know we've discussed before about admissions taxes at high school and middle school sporting events and not charging a tax because the money goes back to the schools. I know it's a user tax, but it causes the ticket price to increase and then it hurts the school systems, the athletics bottom line, because they're not getting as many people when you charge that much. So I don't know if that is being addressed in this or not. Um, to your first point, I will look for the state statute and make sure that that is consistent with the revisions we're looking at to make sure we're not capturing something in the admission charge definition that the state does not allow us to capture. so I'll check on that. The exemption for the high school events. And I think it's all, um, public school events. Um, was in the was in the old version. I think we had amended it to add it to the old version. We preserved it in the cleanup. We may have actually tightened it up a little bit. It appears that it's working just fine. Nobody seems to be confused about that one. That one seems to. We got that one right. So that one is unchanged in this latest round. Because I know we had fixed it a couple of years ago. Yeah. That was changed at your initiative. And I think you said this out on. But it may be a repeating these revisions do not result in any new admission and the application of the admissions tax. Any new areas. Correct? Yeah. I didn't say it clearly enough. I should have. No. These are clarifications of what you adopted and went into effect July, January 1st of this year. Um, but for the, the, for the people who need to pay the tax and the people who are trying to explain the tax. We do think that we can be clear and not have to interpret some of these terms with this latest round. My final question is about. So if I buy go on Ticketmaster. I was just looking at the magicians showing that there's a risk that's reselling of a ticket. Commissioner of the Revenue's office is making sure because it's through Ticketmaster, which is the agent that the City of Norfolk is hired to sell tickets. Um, is charging the appropriate taxes for any resale of tickets. That's all. Correct. Every seller and reseller would be required. If they are selling tickets to a place of amusement. They are doing it exactly the same way. Yes. Thank you, Miss Doyle. I spoke with the commissioner of the revenue yesterday, and I think this will also go a long way to clarify for businesses that it helps keep on running events. You mentioned fun runs. That's related to the school stuff. But for instance. If I do A5K. Or a ten K around town. It's my. Understanding that this. Clarification. Will help help with those people who are doing that kind of work. And so everybody's on the same level playing field. Correct? Correct. Yes. The participants there's a question right now as to whether the person who is buying a ticket to be entitled to participate in that event, oh, is the tax or not? This clarification will make it clear that those participants who want to sign up are not subject to the admissions tax. And if I could I just when these are socialized, let's just make sure that we broadly communicate this, because I think there are some entities that still claim that they don't know the change and may not be doing what they should be doing. So I just want to make sure that everybody is doing what is required by this admissions test. I'll speak with our communications and with the commissioner about the what they believe is the best way to do that. Mr. McGee. I just want to thank you, Adam, for. The work that you put. In. To. To. Get us to this point. It's been quite. A number of months. Of back and forth to try. To. Work this out. And I believe what you've got proposed is very responsive to the concerns that I've heard, and I'd love to see this on a docket soon and. Implemented. As quickly as possible in cooperation with the Commissioner of the revenue. Mr. Molina. Thank you, Mr. Roberts. Thank you. Mayor. I'll invite up to the lectern to the planning director, who will provide your planning update. Thank you, Mr. Manager and mayor. Vice mayor, members of city council. Have the planning update to provide for you for items that went to the Planning Commission in November. Um, and one item which will be on your agenda tonight, which many of you have been briefed on already. The first item is the zoning text amendment to allow for the usage of houseboats. Uh, just to clarify, a houseboat is different than a live aboard for those that utilize marinas. The houseboat is as when a boat or other vessels used primarily as a residence and not as transportation. Currently, those are not permitted in the city, and this tax amendment would allow those uses at legal conforming marinas by right or by conditional use permit, depending on certain criteria. Weatherboards are boats that are lived on by, or resided on by the owner of the boat at the Marina, and this currently is permitted at marinas. They are not permitted to rent them out to other people. Interestingly enough, both of those are permitted and regulated by the Health Department in order to assure that they have all the proper safety precautions in place, including pump outs and other things, for people to stay aboard each of those, each of those residences. The proposed text amendment would allow for conforming marinas to be allowed to provide both long and short term stays on houseboats. The conditional use permit for those would be required if a Marina does not comply with one of the following regulations or performance standards that we provided here. The House vote is if the House, the current regulations would allow it by right. If the House is owned and operated exclusively by the operator of the Marina, the Marina provides no fewer than 50 slips. No more than 5% of the boat slips are occupied by houseboats and available for such rental, and a Marina employee capable of assisting the persons renting shall be on site to during throughout the rental period. These are the standard performance measure performance standards that we have proposed in this use. However, if someone does not meet one of those requirements, they could potentially apply for a conditional use permit to explain why their proposed use and how they operate would be would still meet the intent of these regulations. Here's the location of all the marinas throughout the city. You can see there's a number of slips that are provided for each. Again, the numbers that we came to depended on the which the marinas had actual pump out stations and which ones did not, and had certain permits with the health department, staff collaborated with the health department to understand their inspection procedures and which ones that they have under permit already. By A70 vote, the Planning Commission does recommend approval. The majority of conforming marinas are located in commercial districts, and it requires similar protections that are required for hotels and motels. The next item was a request from the City Council for to amend um, can the allowance to apply for a conditional use permit if a application was previously denied? Currently. Now, if someone applies for a rezoning and they are denied, they are prohibited from submitting a substantially similar application within one year of that application. That same prohibition does not exist for conditional use permits. This amendment would would provide that same prohibition for that application if the application is substantially similar to the previous one. Please note that for conditional use performance, it could be very simple for someone to change how they operate and change significant portions of that application, although the generally it would be the same ask, they could have different operational characteristics that could get them out of the prohibition from being able to apply within one year. Planning Commission recommends this by 7 to 0 vote. Next item is at 5802 East Virginia Beach Boulevard. This is America's best wings within the Jan of Shopping center. Now, this is a request to allow the existing restaurant to operate with extended hours. This location will not serve alcohol. The applicant is essentially requesting to operate from 9 a.m. to 6 a.m., which most we would, most of us would probably say is 24 hours, to provide their services for the community. By seven zero vote. The Planning Commission does recommend approval. It is located within a shopping center with no direct residential exposure. And this isn't being supported by the Lake Taylor Civic League. Can I ask a good question. That very similar to the two shell gas stations that asked for changes for the car wash, and we held them up? I hope you'll have an answer tonight. I think they're back on the agenda. Um, about if they're going to make improvements. Has anybody had discussions with Wheeler Management about the way JNF shopping center looks in the maintenance of their property? We have throughout other major conditional use permit applications and other redevelopments that they've done, similar to the goodwill, where they had to add, um, landscape islands and other things as part of their improvements. Um, for most of these regular tenant build outs, we don't. Um, recently the Planning Commission has not requested or required significant improvements for these for these. And I'm not saying I think it's just an opportunity to have a conversation with them about concerns about the way that it looks. Jamf. They've made some improvements with resurfacing some of the lots. Some of the roads in there need to be resurfaced. There's potholes and things, but it really is the landscaping of the trash. Uh, they're not maintaining, particularly right in front of where this is going. Um, there's, um, some retention ponds that are just full of trash and debris. It just it's, you know, it's just these shopping centers and not being team players in the city of Norfolk and keeping our city looking good. Um, just whatever opportunities we ever have, if we have them at the table or a representative from the management companies to let them know our concerns. I, I'm, I think we just need to start doing that more if we can. Yes, sir. Um, or send in the JP and I, uh, Carlos. They've been looking pretty good. When's the last time you open? I go there, I have a I shopped at BJ's probably 3 or 4 times a week up there for high scroll all over around there and all over the that shopping center. They did make improvements. I noticed that they raised the speed hump height because people were parking illegally on the fire lane while they were servicing those restaurants. But where reaches and that whole strip over right in front of that where Uno's used to be. That's all trash over there. They manage all that property. That's all them. You know, a new restaurant is moving to them. I understand, but from there to that shopping strip, there were the retention ponds. Go look at it. It's all full of trash. All right. And that's right. Behind the. Restaurant. Next to me. Yes. Mr. Johnson, would you like to say something about this? Um, for the long term, um, houseboats. What is the the duration? When you say a long term. Rent. Long. Term would be for anything greater than 30 days. Okay. Up until it can just go on. Correct. That's that's why there's a limitation. Only 5% of the slips to. To limit it so that it continues to function as a Marina and not just as a housing development. And the other question is for America's best wings. Why do they want 24 hour? We've tried to understand that from the applicant. They apparently do a lot of delivery and, um, third party deliveries and they just have requested we tried to understand their, the manner of operation, but they believe that they have a clientele that needs the service at this hour. All right. Mr. page, you done? That. That's my issue. We had issue with the one over on the south side, staying open all night on their own and the traffic that it attracted. I just want us. Where these things come up and started just looking at the civic leagues, us as we check on with the police department. Let's look at the barriers that it's going to be when you have a place, the only place that's open all night with people leaving, places to hang out all night, congregating at those same places with the other issues we have going on in the city when we're trying to stay on top of crime. Uh, is the tax revenue that this is going to generate by the I'm staying open all night on balance out. Is that going to work? Because you're going to have a place where people are congregating. There's nowhere else to go. 7-Eleven and Best links. And I guarantee you everything that we had to work on to get that parking lot from being a congregating spot, uh, late in the evening. This is going to bring that back. I don't think we're in a place as a city where we're ready for, uh, 24 hour businesses. I think IHOP is enough. Uh, if you need to eat at that time of the month. Yes, sir. How are you making? They continue. The next item is a conditional use permit renewal for the hiccup located at 117 East Princess Anne Road. This is a renewal for an existing conditional use permit for a restaurant with live entertainment and the sale of alcohol for on premise consumption. The applicant is proposing just the renewal. They will be operating relatively the same. They are adding an innocuous form of additional entertainment and trivia, but generally speaking, they are operating the same way and just looking for a renewal of their conditional use permit. Here's the floor plan of the site. It is a site with limited capacity of only 57, with only 41 seats indoors. By 7 to 0 vote. The Planning Commission does recommend approval of the renewal. During the Planning Commission public hearing, the applicant requested a removal of the limitation from reapplying for a new conditional use permit within 18 months, so that they could change their entertainment options because this location had two violations of having a DJ at the location. Staff recommended a two year expiration on the conditional use permit again for the operation, and that condition itself requires an 18 month track record in order to review the the the conditional use permit. The Planning Commission declined to remove the condition. Um to to hi for um. I change. My. Mind. I talk to. You in pride. Thank you. It's totally vacant. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. You're welcome. The next item is, uh, coaches, LLC for a conditional use permit renewal at 628 35th Street. Again, this one is a also a conditional use permit renewal for an existing restaurant on 35th Street. Uh, there is a slight alteration to their seating capacity, which has dropped to 105 and 141. But because this is a renewal, the operations are the same. Here's the one of the one of the three floor plans that they have, showing the main restaurant layout that also shows the location of the dance floor. Understanding that this operation does close at 11 p.m. each each night. By 7 to 0 vote, the applicant application is recommended for approval by the Planning Commission. The applicant has operated since 2021 without issue, and there is no change in entertainment or hours of operation of the previous approval. The next item is by the Vail Brewing Company, and only you lounge at 2314 Colonial Avenue. This is for the continued operation of an existing nightclub and to add banquet hall and with live entertainment. There's a lot of information on this slide, I apologize. Uh, the applicant is coming in because they do have to renew their conditional use permit. But however, they are also asking to add a banquet hall with live entertainment to their uses, which means this is not a renewal, but a new conditional use permit request. The applicant is proposing to close by midnight, seven days a week, and they do have currently operate with DJ and live band as their forms of entertainment. The applicant is proposing the use of the third floor as a banquet facility, and to provide the opportunity for that banquet facility to have a DJ. The applicant as per condition in the conditional. The proposed conditions for the Conditional Use Permit. The applicant cannot cannot run the lounge. The the nightclub lounge along with the banquet hall at the same time. It has to be either one or the other when they're offering that DJ as live entertainment. And this is kind of small, but these are the three floor plans for the first, second and third floor. The first floor is where the entertainment is for the for the lounge. While the banquet facility has a small occupant load with a very small area to allow for the DJ. By 7 to 0 vote, the Planning Commission does recommend approval. The establishment closes by midnight and the banquet facility, as I noted, cannot operate at the same time while they have entertainment on the first floor. They have operated without any major calls for service, and because this is a new application with the request for a banquet facility, there is a two year expiration. Proposed as one of the conditions. The last item that briefed the council on you were voting on tonight. Barring any objection, the adoption of the new n k 2050 Comprehensive Plan. The comprehensive plan focuses around four key pillars of celebrating our community, growing equitably, embracing nature, and connecting the city with each one of our goals of the city. Fitting underneath each of these. First goal is our celebrating community. or first pillar. This is where there's lots of focus on neighborhoods, preservation, urban design, arts and culture. Each of these goals help to reflect the input that we've received, not only from council members, the Planning Commission commissioners, but also through the public through the three phases of public input that we've done. The next pillar is growing equitably. This is where we have our housing and economic development goals. Um, each of these goals shows a very important need to provide housing for all citizens and all age ranges, as well as all social and economic strata, and also just calls for a general increase in housing production. And then with the goals three and four focusing heavily on making sure that we grow and diversify the city of Norfolk's economy and provide for a stable and growing workforce through pipelines with our educational facilities. Next is Embracing Nature, which has five goals, which 15 years ago would have been a lot to discuss where there was a lot of maybe disagreement on trying to assure that we preserved some of our natural ecosystems as we've gone out to the public. There's a lot of understanding, and I believe that's a lot of the hard work of the City Council, the planning Commission, and many of the other boards and commissions of assuring to the public that these are very important to us, not only just preserving our natural systems, but protecting the city, as well as making sure that we have parks and recreation spaces that are available to all. And then lastly, we have Connecting the City, which provides for our opportunities to deal with transportation and other intermodal ways to get around the city, which includes vehicles, bicycles and pedestrians and any type of emerging technology which we may we may not know yet. And so each of these provides the opportunity to implement Vision Zero, as well as some of the other studies that we've done in order to assure that we have less conflicts and safer opportunities for the public to move around the city and to move around the region. During the October Planning Commission, the Planning Commission recommended approval by 5 to 0. The proposed comprehensive plan provides flexibility in appropriate areas, but also gives high level policy through the guidance of the City Council and through the public, to help continue to grow the city. With that, I'll take any questions. See? No questions. Mr. speaker, there's one deal. You guys are. Comfortable with that. So there are brewery, and they close the brewery. At what time? At night. Yes. So they have the brewery on the first floor. And I've been in there at the brewery with my family when it turns into a nightclub and they have a bodyguard at the door. They've had that for a long time. And then the second and third floor turned into a nightclub. So they've been I think they've been doing this for a while. So I'm just wondering. Um, it's not the most positive crowd that I've seen. I'm driving by there at night. I just want to make sure you guys understand. I don't know who's going to check in and make sure that they're operating with the conditions that are being put in. I go to the nightclub every couple of months. Okay. Okay. They have been operating in for the last two years without incident, based on our reports from the police department. And so this just this proposal only adds the bank the ability to rent out the third floor. Um, but they will. There is still a two year sunset on the on the conditional use permit. Good place. Yeah, it's been a while. Yes. I move the members of the council. Someone formerly closed meeting on December 9th, 2025 at 4:58 p.m.. Full coverage of the City Hall. 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