. >> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE AND WELCOME. I WILL CALL THIS BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER TONIGHT IS MONDAY, MAY 5TH, 2025. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE JOINING US IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANKS TO EVERYBODY WATCHING ONLINE. WE HAVE A SPECIAL TREAT AGAIN HERE THIS EVENING. THE BLOOMINGTON COLOR GUARD IS GOING TO POST THE COLORS FOR US AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO DEPUTY CHIEF DAMON WHITNEY TO LEAD US IN THAT. FOR THOSE THAT ARE ABLE PLEASE STAND. OFFICER WITH JUST ON THREE OH OFFICERS PRESENT ARE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OFFICER OR ARE THEY ? YOU MAY BE SEATED . THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH TO OUR HONOR GUARD IT'S ALWAYS SO NICE TO START A MEETING WITH THEM IN AT THE FRONT OF THE MEETING IT JUST ADDS A SPECIAL AIR TO THE MEETING AND YOU'LL UNDERSTAND AS WE GET INTO OUR AGENDA EXACTLY WHY WE DID THAT. WE GOT A LOT OF POLICE. RELATED ITEMS THIS EVENING SO COUNCIL OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS TONIGHT IS TO APPROVE OUR AGENDA AND IT'S A IT'S A A BUSY ONE BUT NOT VERY LONG TONIGHT SO HOPEFULLY SO UNDER OUR INTRODUCTORY ITEMS WE'VE GOT FIVE DIFFERENT THINGS UNDER OUR INTRODUCTORY ITEMS WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE PROCLAMATION FOR SMALL BUSINESS WEEK. THEN WE ARE GOING TO GO TO ITEM 2.2 WHICH IS THE INTRODUCTIONS OF BLOOMINGTON POLICE EMPLOYEES AND THE SWEARING IN OF NEW OFFICERS. I'LL READ TWO MORE PROCLAMATIONS THEN A PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL POLICE WEEK AND PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL DAY AND A PROCLAMATION FOR RESPECT FOR LAW WEEK. THEN ITEM 2.5 WILL GO TO THE INTRODUCTION OF OTHER NEW EMPLOYEES THROUGHOUT THE CITY UNDER A CONSENT BUSINESS AND I BELIEVE. WHO HAS CONCERN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON IS CONSENT. WE'VE GOT THREE ITEMS UNDER CONSENT TONIGHT NO HEARINGS OR RESOLUTIONS OR ORDINANCES BUT WE DO HAVE THREE ITEMS UNDER OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS STUDY ITEM REGARDING OFFICE CONVERSIONS THAT'S ITEM 5.1. ITEM 5.2 IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF RESOLUTIONS FROM THE CHARTER COMMISSION AND TO SET OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THAT. AND WE'LL WRAP UP OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO AHEAD IN 5.3 OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS, ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO WHAT I JUST READ? IF NOT I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED. SECOND WE GOT A MOTION IN THE SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS A PROCLAMATION FOR SMALL BUSINESS WEEK AND I'M GOING TO HEAD DOWN TO THE PODIUM . GOVERNANCE AND THERE YOU GO. AS I SAID, THIS IS A PROCLAMATION FOR SMALL BUSINESS WEEK. AND JOINING ME HERE THIS EVENING, MARY RITENOUR, OWNER OF PERK UP KITCHEN AND WEST SIDE PERK TWO OF OUR VERY GOOD PLACES IN TOWN TO CATCH A CUP OF COFFEE AND A DELICIOUS BREAKFAST. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THIS IS OUR A PROCLAMATION FOR SMALL BUSINESS WEEK MAY 4TH THROUGH MAY 10TH 2025. WHEREAS SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON STATE AND LOCAL ECONOMIES AND ARE ESSENTIAL TO COMMUNITY VIBRANCY COMPRISING 99.4% OF MINNESOTA'S REGISTERED BUSINESSES AND EMPLOYING APPROXIMATELY 75% OF THE STATE'S WORKFORCE. AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON CONTINUES TO INVEST IN ITS SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY THROUGH PROGRAMS SUCH AS HATCH, BLOOMINGTON. THE SITE AND FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THE BUSINESS RETENTION PROGRAM CEO START AND ELEVATE HENNEPIN AND THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY, MINNESOTA SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER, THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND MANY MORE ORGANIZATIONS. AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS COMMITTED TO PARTNERING WITH REGIONAL ENTITIES TO PROVIDE A WIDE VARIETY OF RESOURCES. PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE AND GUIDANCE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AT EVERY STAGE FROM BUDDING ENTREPRENEURS LAUNCHING NEW VENTURES TO ESTABLISH SMALL BUSINESSES PURSUING GROWTH STRATEGIES. AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS DEDICATED TO FOSTERING A BUSINESS FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL BUSINESS SIZES AND TYPES. WITH 97% OF LOCAL BUSINESSES RATING, THE CITY'S BUSINESS CLIMATE AS GOOD OR EXCELLENT. AND. WHEREAS, SMALL BUSINESS WEEK IS A CHANCE TO HONOR OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND OUR ENTREPRENEURS WHO WORK TIRELESSLY TO DRIVE BUSINESS GROWTH, CREATE JOBS AND SPUR INNOVATION WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND REGION. NOW THEREFORE I'M HERE. TIM BASS YOU DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 4TH THROUGH THE 10TH 2025 SMALL BUSINESS WEEK IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND CALL UPON OUR COMMUNITY TO VISIT BLM DOT MAN FORWARD SLASH BUSINESS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT AND LOCAL RESOURCES AND TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO SHOP AND SUPPORT OUR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS AND MERCHANTS NOT ONLY DURING SMALL BUSINESS WEEK BUT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR. DATED THIS 5TH OF MAY 2025. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR BEING WITH US THIS EVENING. I'VE SEEN YOU AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN ADDITION TO YOUR RESTAURANTS INCLUDING WINNING AN AWARD AT OUR DIAMOND SERVICE AWARDS WHICH WAS VERY EXCITING. WELCOME AND CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF THIS. PLEASE, I'LL TURN OVER THE MICROPHONE TO YOU ON BEHALF OF THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU MAYOR, COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY FOR RECOGNIZING SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS AND DECLARING THIS PROCLAMATION FOR SMALL BUSINESS WEEK AND SEPTEMBER OF 2017 MY SISTER CALLED TO TELL ME THAT THE COFFEE SHOP WE WOULD OFTEN MEET OUT WAS GOING TO CLOSE. MY HUSBAND JERRY AND I HAVE BEEN IN THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY OUR WHOLE LIVES AND THOUGHT THAT A COFFEE SHOP WOULD BE A GREAT WAY FOR US TO START OUR OWNERSHIP CAREER. WE PURCHASED WEST SIDE PERK AT THE END OF 2017 AND WORKED HARD TO ESTABLISH A PLACE THAT NOT ONLY SERVED AMAZING COFFEE AND FOOD BUT WAS ALSO A WELCOMING AND SAFE SPACE FOR ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. EACH YEAR WE HAVE GROWN AND IMMERSED OURSELVES MORE AND MORE IN THE CITY CULTURE. FAST FORWARD TO THE END OF 2022. JARED AND I STARTED LOOKING FOR LOCATIONS TO OPEN AN ALL DAY BREAKFAST RESTAURANT. WE BELIEVE THIS WAS SOMETHING THE CITY WAS LACKING AND WITH AN OVERWHELMING SUPPORT THAT WE HAD ALREADY RECEIVED AT WAYSIDE PERK WE KNEW WE WANTED TO STAY RIGHT HERE IN THE BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY. WE CASHED IN OUR SAVINGS AND OUR RETIREMENT AND SAW OUR DREAM BECOME A REALITY WHEN WE OPENED PERK UP KITCHEN IN FEBRUARY OF 24 ON THE CORNER OF FRANCE AND OLD SHAKOPEE IN JUST OVER A YEAR WE'VE CREATED RELATIONSHIPS WITH MANY PEOPLE AND HAVE BEEN EMBRACED AND SUPPORTED BY THIS COMMUNITY. WE DO OUR BEST TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS AND ORGANIZATIONS BY PROVIDING DONATIONS AND WE STRIVE TO PROVIDE THE FRESHEST HOMEMADE FOOD WHILE ALSO SUPPORTING OTHER SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES LIKE NINE MILE BREWING, NINE MILE URBAN FARMS AND TRUE STONE COFFEE ROASTERS. WE ARE THANKFUL THAT THE CITY HAS ESTABLISHED A SMALL BUSINESS INITIATIVE AND REALIZED THAT SMALL BUSINESSES ARE THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE COMMUNITY AND WE NEED THE SUPPORT NOW MORE THAN EVER WE APPRECIATE BARB AND ALL THE CITY STAFF THAT ARE THERE TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS GUIDE US THROUGH THE SOMETIMES COMPLICATED PROCESSES. WE FEEL GOOD KNOWING THAT THE CITY IS ALWAYS OPEN TO LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS AND WE FEEL HEARD WHEN THERE IS FOLLOW UP AND POLICY REVISIONS THAT ARE MADE TO REFLECT THE CHANGING TIMES IN THE BUSINESS SECTOR, WE ARE THRILLED AND PROUD TO NOW BE SO NOW ON TO BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND WITH THE HELP OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE WHERE THE FUTURE TAKES US. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PROCLAMATION. WE APPRECIATE IT. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. YOU AND KNOCKING IS IMPORTANT PART THE GRIP AND GRIN WE HAVE TO STEP OVER HERE. ALL RIGHT. AND THIS SHIRT WENT UP. YUP. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT . ITEM 2.2 ON OUR AGENDA IS INTRODUCTION OF NEW BLOOMINGTON POLICE EMPLOYEES AND THE SWEARING IN OF OFFICERS. I'M GOING TO CALLORWARD CHIEF BOOKER HODGES TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO HIM AND HAVE HIM LEAD US THROUGH ITEM 2.2 OF MAYOR COUNCIL. THANKS FOR HAVING US AGAIN HERE TODAY. SO FIRST WE'LL GET STARTED WITH OUR FOUR POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE GOING TO GET SWORN IN. SO HERE'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I'M GOING TO CALL YOU GUYS UP. YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP HERE AND READ OFF THIS PIECE OF PAPER AND SAY WHAT YOU GOT TO SAY AND THEN ONCE ALL FOUR YOU HAD DONE THEN I'LL SWEAR ALL FOR YOU AND YOU'LL GET THE SHAKE EVERYBODY'S HAND. ALL RIGHT THEN I'LL GET TO THE NEXT GROUP. ALL RIGHT. SO FIRST WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OFFICER GARZA . MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER. MY NAME IS RAUL GARZA. I GREW UP IN MINNESOTA. MY DEGREE IS FROM MINNESOTA STATE UNIVERSITY OF MANKATO IN LAW ENFORCEMENT BEFORE THIS I WORKED IN CORRECTIONS OVER IN SCOTT COUNTY FOR A FEW YEARS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, OFFICERAVE MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER MY NAME IS JOSH DAVIS ORIGINALLY FROM WOODBURY, MINNESOTA. RIGHT. I GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL. I OBTAINED MY ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE FROM CENTURY COLLEGE WHILE WORKING ON THAT BECAME EMPLOYED WITH BLOOMINGTON AS A POLICE CADET DID THAT FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF BEFORE GETTING PROMOTED TO OFFICER LAST JUNE. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER MY NAME IS KIND OF LUKEWARM. I JUST THINK ILLINOIS IT'S A MOUTHFUL I KNOW I'M FROM LODI, WISCONSIN. I GOT MY DEGREE AT IT. I REACHED OUT IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND PRIOR TO COMING HERE I WAS INSTALLING GAS LINES IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND THEN GOT HIRED. THANK YOU, SIR . MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER MY NAME IS SARAH JANET KOSKI. I GREW UP IN WOODBURY, MINNESOTA. I HAVE MY BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE FROM ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY AND I USED TO WORK IN CORRECTIONS AT SCOTT COUNTY JAIL. COOL. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE DUE FOR ONE TO COME UP HERE AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE OFFICE. WE'VE ALREADY DONE THIS BUT THIS IS THE ONE FOR THE PHOTO. ALL RIGHT. AND BEFORE YOU START, CHIEF, I DO WANT TO TELL FAMILY MEMBERS YOU HAVE ONE SHOT AT THIS SO DO NOT BE SHY IF YOU NEED TO COME UP AND GET CLOSE, GET A GOOD SHOT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY IN YOUR SEATS. YOU CAN STAND UP, GET TO A GOOD SPOT AND GET A GOOD PICTURE OF THIS BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO GET ONE SHOT AT THIS HERE. THERE WE GO. SO I'M NOT SO I'M GOING TO SAY I CAN SAY YOUR NAME BUT DON'T SAY SAY YOUR NAME ACTUALLY SAY HI. ALL RIGHT. HERE WE GO. I'M ONE FALLS. I THINK IT'S YOUR NAME. I I SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES AS A POLICE OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA. TO THE BEST OF MY JUDGMENT AND ABILITY AND INTEGRITY CONGRATULATIONS . OH, YEAH. I DON'T I KNOW THE OFFICIAL DAY IS ALWAYS AN EXCITING DAY BUT I JUST REMIND PEOPLE THAT WHEN I BECAME CHIEF I CHANGED BRINGING IN PEOPLE BEFORE YOU INITIALLY WHEN WE HIRE THEM EVERYBODY THAT WE BRING BEFORE YOU HAS COMPLETED THEIR FIELD TRAINING AND THEY'RE CERTIFIED POLICE OFFICERS WORKING ON THE STREET OF BLOOMINGTON. SO YEAH, GOOD FOR THEM AND WE LOVE YOU ALL. SO ALL RIGHT, NEXT WE'RE GOING TO BRING UP AMOS. SO THIS YEAR WE THIS IS A FIRST OF A KIND POSITION IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA WHERE WE AS A WELLNESS OFFICER FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OF THE COMMUNITY REMEMBER WE DID A SHARED VALUES PROJECT IN 2023. WE CAME UP WITH A SET OF SHARED VALUES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE GREAT TO DO WAS HAVE A COMMUNITY MEMBER THAT WAS WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY HOLD THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ACCOUNTABLE FOR THOSE VALUES AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO LIVE OUT EVERY SINGLE DAY. RESPECT DEMONSTRATED THROUGH OUR COMPASSION AND HONEST SERVICE AND ALSO TO HELP CONSOLIDATE OUR WELLNESS PROGRAM. SO AMOS READ OFF THIS PIECE OF PAPER BROTHER. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER. MY NAME IS AMOS JAY OLIVARES AND I'M FROM NORTHERN NEW MEXICO, A SMALL LITTLE TOWN CALLED TAOS. I STUDIED IN DALLAS, TEXAS UT SOUTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY AND FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS HAVE COMMITTED MY LIFE TO WORKING WITH PEOPLE IN CHURCHES, COMMUNITIES, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, FOOTBALL FIELDS, BASKETBALL COURTS, COLLEGE AND HIGH SCHOOL. AND NOW I'M FOLLOWING IN AFTER A MAN WHO I BELIEVE IN AND AM VERY HONORED TO SHARE THE NIGHT WITH THESE FOUR GREAT MEN AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH OUR AND WOMEN. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH OUR DEPARTMENT AND SERVING ALONGSIDE CHIEF HODGES. IT'S GAT WE ALL SWEAR YOU GUYS. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, AMOS. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE'LL BRING UP JANET AND LUKE. THEY ARE OUR THERAPISTS AGAIN. THIS IS ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE STARTED HERE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. ONE OF THE THINGS EVEN OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT PEOPLE HAD INDICATED WAS THE LACK OF ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. SO JENNA AND LUKE ARE THEY HELPED BUILD THIS PLANE AS WE FLY IT OR WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE EIGHT WEEKS OF FREE IN-HOME THERAPY TO PEOPLE WE COME INTO CONTACT WITH AND WE'RE ALMOST READY TO LAUNCH OUR DIVERSION PROGRAM HERE. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT WE'VE ALREADY WON MULTIPLE AWARDS FOR. SO THEY DO ALL THE WORK. I JUST TALKED SO I'LL LET YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELVES. GOOD EVENING MAYOR CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER. MY NAME IS JANET YATES. I AM A MARRIAGE AND FAMILY THERAPIST AND ONE OF THE SUPERVISORS OF THIS PROGRAM THE BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY BRAIN HEALTH SERVICES PROGRAM WE'RE VERY PROUD OF. I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS AND APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. NEARLY EVERYONE. MY NAME'S LUKE CAMPBELL. I'M THE LICENSE. I'M SORRY I'M THE OTHER HALF TO WHAT? JANET IS THE SUPERVISOR ADMINISTRATIVE SUPERVISOR FOR THE PROGRAM. I'M ALSO A MARRIAGE AND FAMILY THERAPIST WITH A MASTER'S DEGREE IN MARRIAGE FAMILY THERAPY FROM SAINT MARY'S UNIVERSITY. YEAH, IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE. IT'S AN HONOR TO STAND BEFORE ALL OF YOU AND DO THIS WORK. IT'S BEEN INCREDIBLY REWARDING AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS SO THANK YOU. WELL YES, I WAS GONNA SAY YES INTRODUCING ONE OF OUR INTERNS ARE GRADUATE SCHOOL INTERNS WHO DOES A LOT OF THE THERAPY WORK FOR NURSING. YEAH. HI. MAYORS AND COUNCIL CITY MANAGER. MY NAME IS TORY TUCCI. I GREW UP IN COTTAGE GROVE, MINNESOTA, CURRENTLY GETTING MY MASTER'S AND MARRIAGE AND FAMILY THERAPY AT ST MARY'S AND JANET AND LUKE WERE MY SUPERVISORS. SO THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY GREAT EXPERIENCE AND REALLY GREAT HELPED THE COMMUNITY IN THAT WAY. SO YEAH, THANK YOU. WELL WELCOME AND THANK YOU ALL AS AS THE CHIEF SAID, THIS IS NOT ONLY GROUNDBREAKING WORK BUT VERY IMPORTANT AND NEEDED WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THROUGHOUT THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY. SO I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND DOING IT SO WELL. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BRING UP OUR CADETS BUT I'LL BRING UP CADET O'HARA. THE OTHER TWO ARE ACTUALLY TIED UP ON A CALL RIGHT NOW SO WE HAVE TO GET THEM BACK IN JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE MARRIED OFF THE PIECE OF PAPER . GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO COME UP HERE TONIGHT. MY NAME IS CARLA HARRIS. I'M A NEW CADET HERE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY GREW UP RIGHT HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. SO HAPPY TO BE WORKING HERE CURRENTLY I'M GOING TO HENNEPIN TECHNICAL COLLEGE FOR A DEGREE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE'VE GOT ABOUT A YEAR LEFT. I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO FINISHING UP HOPEFULLY STANDING HERE, YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME BEFORE YOU GUYS AGAIN TO GET SWORN IN. BUT BEFORE HERE I WAS ACTUALLY WORKING IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT INDUSTRY IN PLUMBING, HEATING AND COOLING. SO QUITE THE CAREER CHANGE BUT I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE. I'M REALLY EXCITED AND HOPEFULLY I GET TO SEE YOU GUYS AROUND MORE. COOL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT. YOU GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT I'M GOING TO BRING UP KATRINA SHARPE WHO IS ONE OF OUR CIVILIAN JAIL OFFICERS AND I'LL REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVEN'T ASKED FOR ANY EXTRA POLICE OFFICERS IS BECAUSE YOU GRANTED US JAILERS WITH SOME PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS. SO SHE FEELS THAT SHE IS THE FOURTH ONE. SO OUR JAIL WILL BE COMPLETELY STAFFED ONCE SHE IS DONE TRAINING. SO GO THERE, READ OFF THE PIECE OF PAPER. MAYOR CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER MY NAME IS KATNA SHARPE. I GREW UP IN EAGAN, MINNESOTA . BEFORE I JOINED BLOOMINGTON I WAS WORKING AT THE BLOOMINGTON WALMART AS AN ASSET PROTECTION ASSOCIATE SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU ALL TODAY AND WELCOME. ALL RIGHT. LASTLY AS SARAH HERE HEIGHTS ARE WE HAVE ONE MORE PUBLIC TELECOMMUNICATIONS NOT HERE BUT YEAH SO THAT'S ALL I GOT TODAY. I'D ALSO LIKE YEAH I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE NAME HERE OH SHE WE WE WE WE WE NIXON YEAH WE NEVER MY YES OKAY WE GOT AN AUDIBLE OKAY COOL INAUDIBLE ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHIEF AND WELCOME TO EVERYBODY OUR NEW OFFICERS, OUR NEW CIVILIAN STAFF EVERYBODY WORKING SO HARD AT THIS AND AND I'LL SAY THIS LATER TO OUR OTHER NEW EMPLOYEES THAT I WE WELCOME BUT I SAY TO ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE WELCOME YOU'D BE SHOCKED TO LEARN THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN THIS COMMUNITY OR THEY VISIT THIS COMMUNITY THEY REALLY DON'T CARE WHO THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE. THE FACE OF THE COMMUNITY ARE EACH OF YOU BECAUSE THEY'RE THE PEOPLE THAT THEY INTERACT WITH IN SOME GOOD TIMES AND SOME BAD TIMES WHEN THEY NEED HELP, WHEN THEY WHEN THEY NEED ASSISTANCE AT A AT A DESK OR IN SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE THE THE SERVICE WINDOWS HERE AT CITY HALL YOU'RE YOU'RE THE FACE OF BLOOMINGTON FOR US AND SO WITH THAT COMES A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY AND WE HAVE COMPLETE CONFIDENCE AND TRUST IN ALL OF YOU TO REPRESENT BLOOMINGTON CERTAINLY THE BLOOMINGTON PD, CERTAINLY ALL OF OUR BLOOMINGTON STAFF MEMBERS IN A WAY THAT THAT SHOWS THE RESPECT AND THE HONOR THAT WE EXPECT OF ALL OF YOU. SO WELCOME ABOARD. THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH. LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE. WELL THEN I HAVE BEEN I HAVE TWO MORE PROCLAMATIONS TO READ AND THEN WE CAN EXCUSE ALL OF YOU TO THE PARTY THAT YOU'RE HEADED TO. OKAY. HOLD TWO MORE PROCLAMATIONS PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL POLICE WEEK AND NATIONAL PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL DAY WHICH ARE THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK AS NATIONAL POLICE WEEK AND NATIONAL PEACE OFFICERS. MEMORIAL DAY COMES UP ON MAY 15TH WHEREAS THERE ARE MORE THAN 750,000 SWORN LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS SERVING IN COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES INCLUDING THE DEDICATED MEMBERS OF THE BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT . AND. WHEREAS, SINCE THE FIRST RECORDED DEATH IN 1786 24,412 LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN THE UNITED STATES HAVE MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE AND HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. THE NAMES OF THESE DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANTS ARE ENGRAVED ON THE WALLS AND THE NATIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS MEMORIAL IN WASHINGTON DC. AND. WHEREAS, ACCORDING TO PRELIMINARY DATA COMPILED COMPILED BY THE NATIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS MEMORIAL FUND, 148 OFFICERS WERE KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY AND TWO 2024 THIS IS AN INCREASE OF 25% FROM THE 118 OFFICERS KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY IN 2023. AND. WHEREAS, THE SERVICE AND SACRIFICE OF ALL OFFICERS KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY ARE HONORED ANNUALLY DURING THE NALEO OR NF CANDLELIGHT VIGIL THE 37TH ANNUAL CANDLELIGHT VIGIL HONORING 345 OFFICERS WILL TAKE PLACE ON TUESDAY MAY 13TH 2025. AND. WHEREAS, THE FIRST RECOGNITION OF NATIONAL POLICE WEEK AND PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL DAY WAS SIGNED BY PRESIDENT KENNEDY IN 1962, IT WAS RESOLVED BY CONGRESS THAT MAY 15TH BE DESIGNATED AS PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL DAY TO HONOR ALL LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL PEACE OFFICERS WHO HAVE DIED OR WHO HAVE BEEN DISABLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY AND THE WEEK IN WHICH IT FALLS BE DESIGNATED AS POLICE WEEK. AND. WHEREAS, WE HONOR THE PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL DAY ON MAY 15TH IN HONOR OF THE PEACE OFFICER MEMORIAL DAY ON MAY 15TH, THE BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL HOLD A FLAG CEREMONY IN HONOR OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED AT 8 A.M. BY THE CIVIC PLAZA FLAGPOLES. THE CEREMONY WILL INCLUDE A BRIEF SPEECH THE PLAYING OF TAPS AND THE RIFLE FIRING OF THREE VOLLEYS. ADDITIONALLY, THE BPD WILL JOIN THE MINNESOTA LAW ENFORCEMENT MEMORIAL ASSOCIATION ON MAY 14TH AND 15TH TO STAND GUARD AT THE PEACE OFFICER MEMORIAL IN ST PAUL FOLLOWED BY THE ATTENDANCE OF A REMEMBRANCE CEREMONY AT 7 P.M. ON MAY 15TH. AND. WHEREAS, THE VPD INVITES ALL TO JOIN IN THE ABOVE OFFERED CEREMONIES NOW THEREFORE I, MAYOR TEMBUSU DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 11TH TO MAY 17TH AS NATIONAL POLICE WEEK AND MAY 15TH AS POLICE OFFICERS MEMORIAL DAY IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND PUBLICLY SALUTE THE SERVICE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IN COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION. DATE OF THIS FIFTH DAY OF MAY 2025 SO THE LAST WHEREAS TO INVITE EVERYBODY TO THESE CEREMONIES I'D ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY PLEASE DO JOIN US ESPECIALLY FOR THE THE FLAG CEREMONY ON MAY 15TH AT 8 A.M.. IT'S A VERY NICE CEREMONY. IT'S IT'S VERY POWERFUL CONSIDERING THE HOW COMPACT AND SHORT AND THOUGHTFUL IT IS IT IS REALLY TIME WELL SPENT. SO IF YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY, PLEASE JOIN US. WE'RE RIGHT OUT IN THE PARKING LOT AT MAY ON MAY 15TH AT 8 A.M.. CHIEF I WILL PRESENT THIS TO YOU CONGRATULATE YOU. TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO YOU IF WE WANT TO STAY HERE LONGER BUT YEAH, I'LL JUST THIS IS GOING TO BE BRIEF. I KNOW WE JUST SWORN IN FOR NEW PEOPLE. YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE SIGN UP TO DO THIS JOB AND YOU PUT THIS BADGE AND THIS PATCH ON YOU TELL THE PUBLIC THAT MY LIFE IS LESS IMPORTANT THAN YOURS, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR RACE IS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S WHAT YOU DO. AND UNFORTUNATELY SOME OF US HAVE TO MAKE GOOD ON THAT PROMISE. AND THIS YEAR MINNESOTA WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS WHO HAVE HAD TO MAKE GOOD ON THAT PROMISE AND WE JUST CANNOT EVER FORGET THAT. AND WHEN YOU SEE A COP AND I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES WE KIND OF ACT LIKE WE DON'T APPRECIATE IT BUT JUST SAY THANK YOU RIGHT? THAT'S IT. THEY MIGHT NOD THEIR HEAD AND SAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT BUT TRUST ME IT MATTERS. SO THAT'S IT. I WAS BRIEFLY IN A FINAL PROCLAMATION TODAY IS A RESPECT FOR LAW WEEK PROCLAMATION MAY 11TH THROUGH THE 17TH 2025 WHEREAS CRIME AND ITS EFFECT UPON THE LIVES AND PROPERTY OF OUR CITIZENS IS OF THE UTMOST CONCERN AND THE CONTINUED EFFORTS BY OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS TO CURB THIS PROGRAM. THIS PROBLEM IS GREATLY APPRECIATED. AND. WHEREAS, THE PROBLEMS OF CRIME TOUCH ALL SEGMENTS OF OUR CITY AND CAN UNDERMINE AND ERODE THE MORAL AND ECONOMIC STRENGTHS OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND THEIR CITIZENS IF UNABATED. AND. WHEREAS THE PUBLIC AWARENESS AND DETERMINATION TO MAINTAIN THE FAITH AND THE PRESERVATION OF LAW AND ORDER AND THE APPRECIATION OF THE IMPORTANCE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND THEIR ROLES IN PRESERVING SOCIAL ORDER IN A DEMOCRACY IS EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY. AND. WHEREAS, OPTIMIST CLUBS AND THEIR MEMBERS CONTINUE TO SPONSOR AND SUPPORT PROGRAMS AIMED AT COMBATING CRIME AND RESPECTING LAW THROUGH YEAR ROUND EFFORTS AND. WHEREAS, EACH YEAR THE BLOOMINGTON OPTIMIST CLUB PRESENTS A RESPECT FOR LAW OFFICER OF THE YEAR AWARD TO AN EXEMPLARY BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICER WHO SPEAKS TO THE PROFESSIONALISM AND CORE VALUES OF THE DEPARTMENT RESPECT DEMONSTRATED THROUGH OUR COMPASSIONATE AND HONEST SERVICE. AND. WHEREAS, THE BLOOMINGTON OPTIMIST CLUB IS HONORED TO PRESENT THE 2025 RESPECT FOR LAW AWARD TO DETECTIVE KRISTEN BOOMER. DETECTIVE BOOMER IS A 19 YEAR VETERAN POLICE OFFICER WITH THE BPD. DETECTIVE BOOMER RECEIVED HIGH HONORS FOR HER SERVICE AS A SKILLED CRIMINAL INVESTIGATOR WHO HAS SIGNIFICANTLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE DEPARTMENT'S SUCCESS. DETECTIVE BOOMER IS AN AMBASSADOR FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY AND THE PUBLIC NOW THEREFORE I I'M MAYOR TIM BUSSEY DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MAY 11TH THROUGH THE 17TH 2025 AS RESPECT FOR LAW WEEK DATED THIS FIFTH DAY OF MAY 2025 IS DETECTIVE BOOMER WITH US THIS EVENING? I WOULD HOPE DETECTIVE BOOMER PLEASE JOIN ME UP HERE PLEASE . AND MEMBERS OF THE OPTIMIST CLUB ON THE OPTIMIST AS WELL. IT'S A VERY GOOD AND SO THE OPTIMIST ARE HERE. CONGRATULATIONS. ABSOLUTELY. GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR A VERY YES. JACOB, I'M GOING TO TURN OVER TO YOU FIRST AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DETECTIVE MILLER IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ON BEHALF OF THE BLOOMINGTON OPTIMIST, WE'RE DELIGHTED TO ONCE AGAIN BE THE SUPPORTERS OF THE RESPECT FOR LAW POLICE OFFICER OF THE YEAR AWARD. MANY OF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER ARLEN GRASSING ARLEN WAS OUR REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE OPTIMIST CLUB FOR YEARS AND HE WAS KIND OF THE THE SPEARHEAD THAT WAS THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO TO DO WHAT WE DO. >> UNFORTUNATELY, ARLEN PASSED AWAY IN MARCH AND SO WE KIND OF PICKED UP THE SLACK FOR ARLEN AND AND ARE DELIGHTED AGAIN TO BE HERE TO BE PART OF THIS PROCLAMATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING SO I'M AT A LOSS FOR WORDS EVERYONE IMAGINE THAT USUALLY I'M NOT I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE OPTIMIST CLUB TERRY AND JACOB. THANK YOU GUYS FOR PRESENTING THIS AWARD AND HAVING THIS AWARD FOR OUR OFFICERS TO BE HONORED IN THIS WAY. THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR INVITING ME HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU TO ALL MY PARTNERS OUT THERE. I COULDN'T DO THIS JOB THAT I DO WITHOUT ALL OF THEM. SO THIS AWARD REALLY IS FOR EVERYBODY WHO DOES THIS JOB AND WEARS THIS BADGE LIKE THE CHIEF SAID. BUT ALSO I REALLY WANT TO THANK MY SERGEANTS BRANT RICHARDSON YOU CAN STAND UP FOR NOMINATING ME. THERE IS AND NICK SASSER AND MY COMMANDER BEN CALHOUN. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE EVERYONE TO TAKE THE PICTURE. HERE WE GO. YOU GUYS ARE YOU GUYS HAVE THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE. KNOW I DIDN'T SEE YOUR FACE . ALL RIGHT NOW I KNOW THERE'S A RECEPTION UPSTAIRS IN THE BIG CONFERENCE ROOM FOR OUR NEW OFFICERS AND FOR THE NEW EMPLOYEES THAT WE WERE INTRODUCED TO TONIGHT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING. I KNOW IT BREAKS YOUR HEART, BUT YOU CAN HEAD UPSTAIRS NOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO. WE'LL GIVE YOU JUST A MINUTE HERE. DO I TO TO STEP OUT IF YOU'D LIKE. YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO STAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR COMING HERE AND JUST LIKE THAT THERE'S ELBOW ROOM. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR STICKING OUT STICKING AROUND WITH US. ITEM 2.5 OUR FINAL ITEM HERE UNDER INTRODUCTORY IS OUR INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES AND I KNOW THESE ARE FOLKS WITHIN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND SO I'M GOING TO DO THE HONORS FOR US TONIGHT AT WHO I AM. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I GET THE POSITIVE EXPERIENCE OF INTRODUCING THREE NEW BLOOMINGTON EMPLOYEES IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT SO I'LL CALL THEM UP AND INTRODUCE THEM HERE ONE AT A TIME. THE FIRST ONE IS TEVIN SCHMIDT AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH WELCOME TEVIN SO I READ OFF A LITTLE BIOGRAPHY HERE. TEVIN SCHMIDT IS A NEW ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SPECIALIST WORKING IN RENTAL HOUSING AND RESIDENTIAL CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT. HE IS NOT NEW TO THE CITY TEVIN WORKED AS AN INTERN FOR SIX MONTHS LAST YEAR CONDUCTING RENTAL HOUSING INSPECTIONS AND PUBLIC POOL INSPECTIONS AT THE END OF THE INTERNSHIP TABAN WAS HIRED AS A FOOD POOL LODGING AND WATER WELL INSPECTOR WITH WASECA COUNTY HE HAS A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE DEGREE IN FOOD AND NUTRITION FROM MINNESOTA STATE MANKATO UNIVERSITY. SO WELCOME TO TEVIN. KEEP IT SHORT PRETTY MUCH SET IT ALL FOR ME BUT I VERY MUCH ENJOYED MY TIME HERE PREVIOUSLY. LAST YEAR I WAS HERE FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS AND I'M HAPPY TO BE BACK SO WELL WELCOME. WELCOME BACK AND WELCOME ABOARD FULLY. WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU. SO WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANKS TOM. I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED I'M PINCH HITTING FOR KIM BURGER AND I'LL INTRODUCE CLAYTON MADSEN NEXT. SO CLAYTON MADSEN, NEW ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR WITH THE BUILDING AND INSPECTIONS DIVISION. CLAYTON HOLDS A MASTER'S DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF ST THOMAS AND DATA ENGINEERING. HE HAS OVER SIX YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE ELECTRICAL TRADE. AND CLAYTON IS A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF ELKO, MINNESOTA AND ENJOYS GOLFING AND MOUNTAIN BIKING. WELCOME CLAYTON. WELCOME CLAYTON THERE CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT. AGAIN I'M THE NEW ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR FOR THE BUILDING AND INSPECTIONS DIVISION AND YEAH, I'M SUPER EXCITED. I'M THANKFUL AND PROUD TO BE HERE AND I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO HELP GROW AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY OF BLOOMINGTON FOR YEARS TO COME. THANK YOU. WELCOME. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ONE MORE NEXT WILL CALL UP THAN ARDEN. THANK YOU. AWESOME I WORSE THAN ARDEN IS THE NEW BLOOM PROGRAM FACILITATOR AND THE PORT AUTHORITY DIVISION WORSENED MOST RECENTLY WORKED FOR A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION FOCUSED ON YOUTH ADVOCACY. SHE GOT HER BACHELOR'S IN POLITICAL SCIENCE FROM THE SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY GO AS TECH'S AND HER MASTER'S IN PUBLIC POLICY FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SAN DIEGO. AWESOME CAME TO THE USA AT THE AGE OF TEN AND LIVED IN SAN DIEGO UNTIL SHE MOVED TO MINNESOTA LAST YEAR. A FUN FACT IS THAT HER NAME MORSON AND NATIVE SOMALI NAME MEANING AMAZING NEWS WAR EQUALS NEWS, SUN EQUALS AMAZING WORSE THAN IRELAND. WELCOME. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ASSIST US. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE. I WILL BE OVERSEEING OUR BLOOM IN BLOOM INTO AN INTERNSHIP AND I AM SUPER EXCITED TO BE WORKING WITH OUR INCREDIBLE CITY DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS WITH OUR EXTERNAL PARTNERS THIS SUMMER. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME. THANK YOU. WELL AND YOU HEARD ME EARLIER SAYING HOW IMPORTANT WE KNOW ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON BECAUSE YOU ARE THE FACE OF BLOOMINGTON AND ESPECIALLY OUT IN THE COMMUNITY NOT ONLY MANAGING POTENTIAL INTERNS BUT CERTAINLY WITH INSPECTIONS AND DEALING WITH PEOPLE IN THEIR PROPERTIES IN THEIR HOMES WHEN WHEN THEY THINK OF BLOOMINGTON THEY THINK OF YOU AND THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH YOU. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING SO MANY GOOD THINGS ABOUT THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH YOU. I KNOW THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS POSITIVE SOMETIMES BUT I GET THAT. BUT I TRUST THAT YOU'LL HANDLE THEM SO VERY WELL AND SO VERY PROFESSIONALLY AND DO DO WELL WITH THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SO WELCOME. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT . COUNCIL ITEM THREE ON OUR AGENDA IS TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS CONSENT BUSINESS AND WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON IT TONIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. TRY TO LIFT THIS BURDEN HERE. I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANY HOLDS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE SOMETHING? ALL RIGHT WITH THAT I WILL MOVE ITEM 3.1 THROUGH 3.3. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S EXTENSIVE CONSENT BUSINESS AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED THAT MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. APPRECIATE IT. WE WILL MOVE ON. AS I SAID, WE HAVE NOTHING UNDER HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES TONIGHT SO WE MOVE ON TO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND WE HAVE ONE STUDY ITEM TONIGHT THIS REGARDING OFFICE CONVERSIONS AND THOMAS RAMBLER OLSON IS HERE WITH US. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. OH GOOD EVENING MAYOR MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL IS 7 OR 7. THAT'S IMPRESSIVE. ALL RIGHT. YES, I'M KIND OF TIRED. ALL RIGHT. SO, UM, YEAH, THE FIRST ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS OFFICE CONVERSIONS. SORRY. IT SAYS ITEM 5.2 ANYWAYS, MY BAD. THE AGENDA WE'RE JUST GOING TO BRIEFLY LOOK AT THE ISSUE OF OFF OFFICE CONVERSIONS. I'M SORRY OFFICE VACANCY IN THE CITY AND REGIONALLY. THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE ISSUES THAT COMPLICATE OR RESTRICT OFFICE CONVERSIONS. WE'LL DIP INTO STRATEGIES AND INTERVENTIONS TO STIMULATE DEMAND FOR OFFICE CONVERSIONS. AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST OR NO LESS, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER AND THEN WE CAN WORK ON NEXT STEPS AFTER THAT AFTER WE GET THAT FEEDBACK. >> SO LOOKING AT THE REGIONAL AND LOCAL PICTURE FOR OFFICE VACANCY SO MAYBE MORE HELPFUL TO LOOK AT THE CHART ON THE RIGHT AT THE TOP OF THE BUNCH IS MINNEAPOLIS. THEY'RE PRETTY NOTABLE FOR HAVING A PRETTY HIGH OFFICE VACANCY ESPECIALLY WITHIN THEIR CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT BLOOMINGTON IS RIGHT BELOW THEM. THE TREND LINE IS IS AN IMPROVEMENT FOR BLOOMINGTON. WE SEEM TO BE REDUCING THAT OFFICE VACANCY STARTING IN 2023 AND GOING TO 2024. SO ABOUT A 2% GAP BETWEEN THOSE TWO YEARS AND THEN COMPARED TO ALSO TO THE 494 CORRIDOR WHICH INCLUDES PARTS OF BLOOMINGTON AS WELL AS OTHERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CORRIDOR. THAT TREND IS ALSO IMPROVING SLIGHTLY BUT NONETHELESS IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT THAT SHOULD BE OBSERVED IN THE TWIN CITIES AS A WHOLE OFFICE VACANCY IS GOING UP AND SO OUR CONTRIBUTION TO THAT VACANCY IS IS REDUCED OH I'M SORRY IS REDUCED. SO OTHER CITIES ARE YOU KNOW ARE CONTRIBUTING MORE TO THAT OFFICE VACANCY THAT SHOULD ALSO BE MADE AWARE AND THEN SUBURBS AS A WHOLE IT'S PRETTY FLAT BUT NONETHELESS IT'S IT'S THERE BLOOMINGTON IN COMPARISON TO THOSE OTHER GEOGRAPHIC GEOGRAPHIES WE'RE PERFORMING BETTER WHERE BUT WE'RE STILL HIGHER THAN THOSE OTHER THREE GEOGRAPHIES SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF AND CONSCIOUS OF AS WE'RE DISCUSSING THE ISSUE TONIGHT. BUT IT IS GETTING BETTER FOR BLOOMINGTON SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE INTERVENTIONS THAT ARE GOING T BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT. AND ON TO THE THE TOPIC OF OFFICE VACANCY. IT'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF VACANCY IS GOOD. SO A HEALTHY MARKET SHOULD HAVE A 5 TO 10% VACANCY THAT HAS MANY BENEFITS FOR TENANTS AS WELL AS WELL MAINLY FOR TENANTS. IT ALLOWS THEM TO ADJUST THEIR FOOTPRINT SO THEY CAN ECONOMIZE ESSENTIALLY YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT'S BOLDED AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE AND THIS IS ALL RELATED TO ECONOMIZING. THEY'RE ABLE TO ADJUST THEIR FOOTPRINT, FIND SPACES THAT ARE MORE SUITABLE FOR THEIR OPERATIONS AS THEY ADJUST TO NEW WORK MODELS AND JUST RETHINKING STRATEGIES DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, MARKET CONDITIONS AND THIS HAS THE DUAL BENEFIT OF ALSO EXERTING PRESSURE ON LANDLORDS TO BECOME MORE RESPONSIVE TO THOSE TENANTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO ATTRACT THEM AND THEY HAVE TO A CHARGE APPROPRIATE RENTS. SO VACANCY IS NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING IT'S JUST WHEN YOU GET ABOVE THAT WHERE YOU START ENTERING PRETTY TREACHEROUS TERRITORY. SO SOME NOTABLE CAUSES OF SUSTAINED OFFICE VACANCY WAS WHICH WAS JUST MENTIONED WAS ECONOMIZING SO AGAIN SHRINKING OFFICE FOOTPRINT AND RETHINKING THEIR WORK MODEL BUT ALSO REMOTE WORK. IT'S JUST BECOMING A BIGGER BIGGER ISSUE SINCE THE PANDEMIC AND NOW IT'S BEING TOTED AS A AS A AS A BENEFIT TO EMPLOYEES THAT THE EMPLOYERS WILL OFFER FOR REMOTE WORK SCHEDULING AND HYBRID SCHEDULES OF WORKING IN OFFICE OR REMOTELY SOME OF THE CORE CITIES HAVE ADDRESSED THEIR VACANCY ISSUES THROUGH MULTIPLE MEANS. MINNEAPOLIS NOTABLY COMMISSIONED A STUDY LAST YEAR THAT LOOKED AT THE BROADER ISSUE OF OFFICE VACANCY AND THEN OFFICE TO RESIDENTIAL CONVERSIONS AND SOME OF THE ACTIONS THEY CAN TAKE TO ENCOURAGE THOSE THOSE CONVERSIONS AND FROM THAT THEY ALSO ADOPTED A POLICY TO INCENTIVIZE CONVERSIONS SO THAT NUMEROUS COMPONENTS TO IT THE MAIN ONES ARE THEY'RE STREAMLINING THE APPROVAL PROCESS TO FOR OFFICE CONVERSION REQUESTS. THEY'RE REQUIRING LESS EXTENSIVE TRAFFIC STUDIES AND THEY'RE PAUSING THE ENFORCEMENT IN THEIR INCLUSIONARY ZONING REQUIREMENTS AND THEY'RE DOING THAT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR FIVE YEARS AFTER ADOPTION. SO I GUESS 2029 OR 20 TO 2030 NONETHELESS THERE ARE PAUSING THE ENFORCEMENT OF THAT FOR OFFICE CONVERSION PURPOSES. SO OFFICE TO RESIDENTIAL SO THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS WILL NOT HAVE TO MEET THEIR INCLUSION INCLUSIONARY ZONING REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE THAT CAN BE A HURDLE FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO OVERCOME. ST PAUL THEY HAVE A DOWNTOWN ALLIANCE THAT COMMISSIONED A STUDY RECENTLY AND THEY LOOKED AT 20 OFFICE BUILDINGS AND OF THOSE 2010 SHOWED POTENTIAL FOR CONVERSION TO RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT'S NOTABLE AND THERE ARE ALSO PONDERING OTHER ACTIONS TO ENCOURAGE OFFICE CONVERSIONS FEE WAIVERS HAVING DEDICATED STAFF TO GUIDE APPLICANTS THROUGH REQUESTS FOR OFFICE CONVERSIONS AND SPECIFIC SPECIALIZED APPLICATION PROCESS TO TO DEAL WITH OFFICE CONVERSION REQUESTS. STAFF WE INTERVIEWED INTERVIEWED OR WE SURVEYED OUR PEERS IN THE REGION TEN CITIES SPECIFICALLY AND SEVEN RESPONDED. WE WANTED TO KNOW JUST WHAT HAS BEEN THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH OFFERING OFFICE CONVERSIONS? HAVE THEY HAD AN EXPERIENCE? CAN THEY PROVIDING REASONS FOR THAT MIGHT HAVE COMPELLED PROPERTY OWNERS TO CONVERT THEIR OFFICE SPACES TO SOMETHING ELSE? HAS THE DEVELOPMENT BEEN A SUCCESS AFTER CONVERSION? ANY PUBLIC ASSISTANCE OR SUBSIDY INVOLVED IN FACILITATING THESE CONVERSIONS AND BASED ON THEIR OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE HOW DO THEY FEEL THAT THEIR CITY IS PROMOTING OR ALLOWING OFFICE CONVERSIONS? SO DO THEY HAVE A A POLITICAL OR POLICY ENVIRONMENT THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM THOSE TYPES OF ACTIONS AND YOU'LL SEE THE RESULTS IN SUMMARIZING IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THEN PART OF EXHIBIT A OFFICE CONVERSIONS WERE SEEN AS PRETTY INFREQUENT AMONGST OUR PEERS. THEY'RE HANDLED ON A SITE TO SITE BASIS. BURNSVILLE USES PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENTS WHICH IS LIKE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT HERE TO GIVE FLEXIBILITY TO ALLOW CONVERSIONS TO HAPPEN. SO THAT'S AN APPLICATION HURDLE BUT NONETHELESS THAT'S KIND OF HOW THEY'VE BEEN FACILITATING CONVERSIONS AND RE-USE OF VACANT OFFICE SPACE AND INDUSTRIAL SPACE AS WELL I SHOULD SAY MINNETONKA THEY NOTABLY PROVIDED FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO ONE OFFICE CONVERSION PROJECT OFFICE FOR RESIDENTIAL CONVERSION PROJECT BACK IN THE 2000S BUT HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING SINCE EDEN PRAIRIE. THEY MENTIONED OPENNESS TO SUPPORTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IF THAT MEANT CONVERTING AN OFFICE TO RESIDENTIAL AS LONG AS IT RESULTED IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING THEY WERE FOR IT AND SO THEY WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THOSE ACTIONS. ROSEVILLE AND EDEN PRAIRIE THEY'RE KIND OF HANGING BACK THERE OBSERVING THE MARKET AS IT IS. THEY DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY TOO QUICK AND MOVES AND SO BECAUSE THEY WANT THOSE OFFICE BUILDINGS TO BE AROUND IN CASE THE MARKET REBOUNDS SO THEY DON'T THEY'RE NOT ENCOURAGING OFFICE CONVERSIONS I'M NOT SURE IF THEY HAVE ANY ACTUALLY BARRIERS ESTABLISHED TO IMPEDE CONVERSIONS BUT NONETHELESS THEY'RE STILL WAITING ON THE SIDELINES TO SEE HOW THE MARKET WILL PLAY OUT FOR FOR THE TIME BEING ST LOUIS PARK THEY'VE EXPANDED WHERE MULTIFAMILY CAN GO AND THAT INCLUDES IN COMMERCIAL ZONES AND SO THEORETICALLY THAT COULD RESULT IN MORE OFFICE CONVERSIONS. SO THAT'S WHAT OUR PEERS ARE DOING IN THE REGION AND LOOKING AT THE TOPIC OF OFFICE CONVERSIONS THERE'S YOU KNOW, STAFF ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THERE'S NUMEROUS BENEFITS. IT BRINGS NEW LIFE TO UNDERUTILIZED BUILDINGS SO VACANT OFFICE SPACES HAVE A SECOND LIFE AND THAT CAN ACTUALLY RIPPLE OUT TO SURROUNDING SPACES EITHER WITHIN THE BUILDING OR THE SITE ITSELF. IT AVOIDS TEARING DOWN A BUILDING AND THE YOU KNOW, THE CHAOS FROM REDEVELOPMENT AND THE WASTE FROM DEMOLITION. SO IT OFFERS THAT BENEFIT AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT THAT ALSO PRESERVES STRUCTURES. THAT'S THE LAST BULLET POINT THAT POSSESSES TOPICAL VALUE SO IT PRESERVES THOSE BUILDINGS FROM THE THE LANDFILL AND ALSO JUST MAINTAINS THAT HISTORICAL VALUE IN THE COMMUNITY AND IT ACTUALLY MAY RESULT IN POSITIVE SPILLOVER ON ADJACENT BUILDINGS AND SPACES. SO IMAGINE AN OFFICE BUILDING OR SPACE CONVERTING AND REJUVENATING THE THAT SITE THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY COMPEL OTHER ADJACENT BUILDING OWNED PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAKE SIMILAR INVESTMENTS IN THEIR PROPERTY. SO IT IT MIGHT HAVE THAT SPILLOVER EFFECT FROM FROM CONVERTING TO A MORE PRODUCTIVE USE BUT THERE ARE CHALLENGES DESPITE THOSE BENEFITS I JUST LISTED AND THEY CAN KIND OF BE BUCKETED INTO TWO GROUPS THERE'S PRACTICAL THE PRACTICAL CHALLENGES, THE PHYSICAL DESIGN OF THE BUILDING THAT MAKES CONVERSION A CHALLENGE. THIS IS ESPECIALLY ACUTE WITH OFFICE FOR RESIDENTIAL OR RESIDENTIAL JUST HAS ALL THESE STRUCTURAL AND UTILITY NEEDS THAT ARE NOT SORT OF WHEN ARE DESIGNING AND BUILDING AN OFFICE BUILDING SO JUST MORE MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO SEPARATE DWELLING UNITS IN CONVERTED AN OFFICE THAT'S CONVERTED INTO RESIDENTIAL AND THERE'S JUST MIGHT BE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT ARE IN THE WALLS AND THE FLOORS THAT YOU KNOW JUST COME ABOUT THROUGH OPENING THEM UP . AND SO THAT ADDS ANOTHER LAYER OF DIFFICULTY AND EXPENSE THAT MAKES THOSE PRACTICAL CHALLENGES A DETERRENT FOR CONVERTING. THERE'S A THERE THERE ARE LEGAL CHALLENGES AS WELL. THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THAT CHALLENGES OFFICE CONVERSIONS JUST PARKING REQUIREMENTS IS A BIG ONE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PLANNING STAFF HAS TO DEAL WITH A LOT WITH EVEN JUST BY RIGHT DEVELOPMENTS. NOW IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CONVERTING A DEVELOPMENT AND THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE HIGHER AND THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT MET AND THERE'S NO SPACE TO EXPAND PARKING THAT CHALLENGES THE THE GOAL OF CONVERTING. SO THAT IS SOMETHING TO BE LOOKED AT OR CONSIDERED. THERE'S ALSO THE RISK OF CREATING NONCONFORMITY AS IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE REZONING A PROPERTY TO MAKING A USE ALLOWED THAT MIGHT COME WITH IT ADDITIONAL NONCONFORMITY SO YOU'RE CREATING NEW NONCONFORMITY AND THAT AGAIN JUST CHALLENGES THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND THE CONVERSION PROCESS AND ON TOP OF THAT THERE IS THE REGULATORY COMPLEXITY ADDED BY THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE 99% OF UNITS FROM RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS OF 20 OR MORE UNITS 9% OF THOSE HAVE TO HAVE AFFORDABILITY TO CERTAIN INCOME LEVELS AND SO THAT'S IT. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE RECOGNIZED THAT IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE AND ANOTHER LAYER OF REGULATORY REGULATORY COMPLEXITY FOR PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE CONSIDERING ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THEIR OFFICE BUILDINGS. BUT OF THE TO THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK OR THE LEGAL CHALLENGES ARE PROBABLY THE EASIEST FOR THE CITY TO DEAL WITH. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO STRUCTURAL TECHNOLOGY WHERE WE SET THE RULES FOR HOW THESE USES CAN PLAY OUT IN THE OFFICE MARKET. SO THAT'S WHERE THE REST OF THE STAFF REPORT GOES FOR RECOMMENDATIONS OR THE REGULATORY ACTIONS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED OR IMPLEMENTING FLEXIBLE PARKING STANDARDS. ANOTHER THE BULLET BULLET POINT BELOW THAT IS TO ALLOW MORE USES IN COMMERCIAL OFFICE DISTRICTS. SO OPENING THAT UP MORE TO DIFFERENT USES WE USE THE EXAMPLE OF ALLOWING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND MORE OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS SO WE THERE'S IDENTIFIED WHICH WHICH OFFICE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS DON'T ALLOW RESIDENTIAL AND MAYBE THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED TO ALLOW MULTIFAMILY IN THOSE DISTRICTS. SO AGAIN GIVING THOSE GIVING PROPERTY OWNERS THAT OPPORTUNITY IF THEY DO HAVE AN OFFICE BUILDING THAT CAN BE CONVERTED, HERE'S ONE USE THAT THEY CAN CONSIDER AND CONSIDERING AND THEN YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DEARTH OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT SERVE MULTIPLE PURPOSES TO ALLOW MULTIFAMILY IN SOME OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS . ANOTHER REGULATORY ACTION TO CONSIDER IS JUST STREAMLINING THE REVIEW PROCESS, MAKING THINGS QUICKER AND SIMPLER FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING TO CONVERT THEIR OFFICE BUILDING INTO A MORE PRODUCTIVE USE AMENDING THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE MIGHT BE OR IS LISTED AS A CONSIDERATION MAYBE SIMILAR TO WHAT MINIMUM MINNEAPOLIS DOES IN PAUSING ENFORCEMENT OR JUST AMENDING SOME OF THE STANDARDS RELATED TO IT. STAFF IS HESITANT TO RECOMMEND THAT BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN VERY VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL IN PROVIDING OR BRINGING AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THE MARKET IN BLOOMINGTON SO THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED WITH SOME CAUTION CONSIDERING THE BENEFITS IT BRINGS TO THE CITY . AND LAST ON THAT A REGULATORY ACTION SO ALLOW CO-LIVING YOU RECENTLY APPROVED OUT LAST WEEK I BELIEVE SO THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED AND THAT IN AS DETAILED IN THE STAFF REPORT THOSE MODEL THOSE LIVING MODELS ARE VERY FLEXIBLE AND COULD PROBABLY HANDLE THE ODD FLOOR PLATES OF MOST POST 90 AND 1950S OFFICE BUILDINGS SO THOSE WITH THE DEEPER FLOOR PLATES HAVING A MORE UNIQUE HOUSING ARRANGEMENT OFFERED BY CO-LIVING COULD THEORETICALLY HANDLE THOSE THOSE ODD FLOOR PLATES. THERE WAS A A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN PEW TRUST AND THE DESIGN FIRM GENSLER THAT DID A FIFTH STUDY OF A THIRD OF AN OFFICE BUILDING IN MINNEAPOLIS ACTUALLY AND FIT CO-LIVING SPACES TO THOSE FLOOR PLATES AND THEY MANAGED TO MAKE IT WORK WHERE THE RENT FOR A UH A BEDROOM OR YOU KNOW ROOM IN IN ONE OF THESE CO-LIVING UNITS WOULD RENT ABOUT 750 BUCKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT WAS I THINK IT WAS AROUND 750 AND SO IT WHETHER THERE'S A MARKET FOR THAT IT'S HARD TO TELL BUT NONETHELESS THAT KIND OF RESEARCH TO SHOW THAT IT DOES PROVIDE A HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING ALTERNATIVE TO BE CONSIDERED YEAH THIS SLIDE OR THIS MAP BEFORE YOU SHOWS THE GEOGRAPHIC SPREAD OF OFFICE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY AND THOSE THAT ARE IN DISTRICTS THAT ALREADY ALLOW MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL SO THAT CONVERSION POSSIBLY POSSIBILITY IS THERE. HOWEVER WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL BUILDING SO WE DON'T KNOW THE LIKELIHOOD OF CONVERSION. THAT'S CERTAINLY A HUGE CAVEAT OF THIS RESEARCH IS WE HAVE NOT STUDIED EVERY SINGLE OFFICE BUILDING SO WE DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY WHAT THE APPETITE OR THE POSSIBILITY IS FOR CONVERSION. THAT'S JUST OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THIS RESEARCH. BUT NONETHELESS GOING OFF OF THIS SLIDE, THERE ARE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE THAT WOULD ALLOW MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITHIN OFFICE DISTRICTS. THERE ARE 52 OFFICE PROPERTIES THAT ARE A DISTRICT THAT ARE IN DISTRICTS THAT DON'T ALLOW MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL. SO AS WAS SAID BEFORE UNDER REGULATORY ACTIONS OPENING THOSE POSSIBILITIES UP IN ALLOWING MULTIFAMILY IN THOSE DISTRICTS MIGHT IMPROVE THE CHANCES OF OFFICE CONVERSIONS TO RESIDENTIAL UM UM SO LOOKING AT THE LOGISTICAL ACTIONS SO STUFF THAT WOULD PROVIDE AN ASSISTANCE TO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING CONVERSION SOME OF THESE FORMS OF ASSISTANCE COULD BE A SURVEY OF OFFICE PROPERTIES IN BLOOMINGTON'S SO JUST LOOKING AT EVERY OFFICE BUILDING, LOOKING AT THEIR FLOOR PLATES PROVIDING THOSE DIMENSIONS SOME OF THE OTHER PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES AS WELL AS NEARBY AMENITIES THAT ARE ATTRACTIVE TO CONVERTING OFFICE BUILDINGS TO A DIFFERENT TO A NON OFFICE USE COULD BE RESIDENTIAL, COULD BE ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN OTHER THAN OFFICE PROVIDING EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES ON THE CONVERSION PROCESS ONLINE GUIDES CASE STUDIES TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO SEE IF IT'S A FEASIBLE ROUTE FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO PURSUE DEDICATING STAFF RIGHT NOW THAT COULD BE YOU KNOW, THE IN-HOUSE EXPERTS FOR OFFICE CONVERSIONS AND COULD STEWARD APPLICANTS THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS. SO THAT'S ANOTHER FORM OF ASSISTANCE THAT THE CITY CAN PROVIDE. AND THE THIRD FINAL CATEGORY IS FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. THIS IS A TABLE SUMMARIZING THE VARIOUS FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TOOLS AT DIFFERENT LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT FROM FROM THE CITY TO COUNTY REGIONS, STATE AND EVEN FEDERAL FORMS OF ASSISTANCE. THOSE ARE EXPLAINED MORE IN DEPTH IN DEPTH IN EXHIBIT C FOUR FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. BUT NONETHELESS THERE IS FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE THAT COULD AID IN THE CONVERSION OF OFFICE BUILDINGS TO MORE PRODUCTIVE USES. AND SO FINALLY NEXT STEPS IF IF THERE IS FEEDBACK IN DIRECTION THAT REQUIRES STAFF TO PREPARE AND PROPOSE CODE AMENDMENTS WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS WOULD HAVE TO BE SCHEDULED LATER IN THE YEAR JUST BECAUSE OF THE WORK PLAN THAT STAFF ARE CURRENTLY DEDICATED TO AND THERE IS POSSIBILITY THROUGH PAIRING UP SOME AMENDMENT WORK WITH OR MISCELLANEOUS CODE AMENDMENTS THAT OCCUR ANNUALLY. SO THERE'S WAYS TO COUPLE THAT THAT WORK WITH JUST REGULAR WORK THAT PLANNING STAFF DOES ON A YEAR BY YEAR BASIS. SO AS I MENTIONED I BELIEVE IS MARCH 27TH WHEN STAFF PRESENTED THE SAME REPORTS AND RESEARCH TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND FROM THAT MEETING WE RECOMMEND ATIONS THAT BASICALLY BASICALLY CONCURRED WITH ALL THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AS THOSE ARE SUMMARIZED ON THIS SLIDE ALLOW MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN THE DISTRICTS B1 B2 CR1 AND CS1 PREPARE OR MAKE AVAILABLE EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES ABOUT OFFICE CONVERSION. SO JUST PROVIDING THAT'S FORM OF ASSISTANCE FOR PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE INTERESTED AND HAVING A POINT PERSON IN AMONG PLANNING STAFF THAT CAN ADDRESS QUESTIONS FROM PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT CONVERTING THEIR BUILDINGS OR THEIR OFFICE BUILDINGS INTO INTO OTHER USES NON OFFICE USES AND FOR THAT I'LL YOU KNOW LEAVE IT OPEN FOR ADDITIONAL ITEMS TO DISCUSS. BUT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS AS WELL. THANK YOU. MR. OMAR OLSON COUNSEL I'LL LOOK FOR QUESTIONS HERE. I'VE GOT ONE TO LEAD OFF WITH THOUGH I IT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES YOU TALKED ABOUT PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND SO ON BECAUSE IT'S INTERESTING TO ME BECAUSE IN SO MANY OF THE OFFICE COMPLEXES THAT I SEE AROUND BLOOMINGTON THEY ARE RIDICULOUSLY OVER PARKED AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT LOOSENING PARKING IN ANY WAY WOULD WOULD BENEFIT THEM BECAUSE THAT PARKING EXIST WHETHER IT'S THROUGH RENTS OR SURFACE PARKING IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS. CAN YOU TALK TO THAT A BIT AND TALK WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES WHO BROUGHT THAT UP AS A AS AN ISSUE THAT THEY MIGHT THEY MIGHT ADDRESS? THANK YOU MARY. YEAH. SO WE IN THAT RESEARCH THAT SURVEYED OTHER COMMUNITIES, WE WE DIDN'T RUN INTO THAT COMPLAINT ABOUT THE PROVISION OF PARKING IF IF IF IT WAS TOO MUCH OR TOO LITTLE YOU'RE RIGHT THERE IS AN OVERABUNDANCE OF PARKING AND YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THAT GIVES PROPERTY OWNERS SOME FLEXIBILITY ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND HOW TO RETHINK THEIR PROPERTY SO THAT THEY'RE NOT RUNNING AFOUL OF OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S GOOD FOR RESIDENTIAL. THERE IS REQUIREMENTS ABOUT I BELIEVE A COVERED PARKING SPACE PER UNIT SO IF THOSE ARE OPEN PARKING LOTS THAT REALLY MAKES RESIDENTIAL CONVERSIONS REALLY TRICKY. A PLANNING MANAGER JOHNSON COULD SPEAK MORE IN THAT I'M NOT TOO WELL VERSED IN THOSE PARKING REQUIREMENTS BUT I BELIEVE THAT IS IT THAT YOU NEED A COVERED PARKING REQUIREMENT IF YOU'RE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND AND THIS WAS MORE HOW SHOULD I SAY THIS THIS IS MORE OF A REFLECTION OF OUR EXPERIENCE WITHIN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS THAT PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE OFTEN A SOURCE OF UH, CONSTERNATION OR MAYBE CONSTERNATION JUST SOME SOME SOME DIFFICULTY TO IMPLEMENTING A PROPOSAL IS BECAUSE ARE THEY MEETING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND THAT THAT JUST ALWAYS SEEMS TO ERUPT. YOU KNOW SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKING MANAGEMENT BUT BECAUSE IT'S JUST SUCH A HUGE TOPIC SO JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE THAT IF THERE'S WAYS TO ANTICIPATE THAT ISSUE THAT THERE ARE WAYS OR THAT THERE'S WAYS TO ATTACK IT FOR INSTANCE OFFERING THAT FLEXIBILITY IF IF OFFICE BUILDING IS PROPOSED TO BE CONVERTED TO A NON OFFICE USE AND THEY NEED MORE PARKING THAN WHAT'S PROVIDED AND THEY'RE PROXIMATE TO A HIGH FREQUENCY TRANSIT, STOP GIVING SOME OF THAT FLEXIBILITY KNOWING THAT THEY WON'T RELY ON ALL THE PARKING THAT'S REQUIRED AND THEY CAN ASSUME SOME OF THE PEOPLE VISITING THE BUILDING OR ANY ARRIVE BY TRANSIT. SO THE PARKING DEMAND IS NOT NECESSARILY NEEDED OR IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SHUFFLED IN THAT WAY OR THEY'RE NEAR A PARKING STRUCTURE SHARED AMONGST A GROUP OF BUILDINGS AGAIN OFFERING THAT SHARED PARKING BENEFIT THAT PROVIDES SOME OF THAT RELIEF AND THERE MAYBE GIVING THEM CONSIDERATION FOR A REDUCED PARKING REQUIREMENT BASED ON THAT LOCATIONAL FACTOR. SO THAT'S A REASON WHY WE CONCLUDED THAT. OKAY. APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO MR. MAYOR, I'M SORRY I MIGHT HAVE MORE QUESTIONS LATER BASED ON THE DISCUSSION BUT BUT IF I COULD I JUST HAVE A QUICK CLARIFYING QUESTION ABOUT THE MAP THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US IF WE COULD PULL THAT UP AGAIN . SO 55 OFFICE PROPERTIES ARE IN DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW AND THEY'RE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND FROM WHAT I CAN TELL THOSE ARE LARGELY IN THE B4 AND C4 ZONES . IS THAT FAIR TO TO ASSUME I MEAN THE COLORS AREN'T DISTINCTIVE ENOUGH FOR ME TO TELL FOR SURE BUT I TAKEN A HAZARD GUESS THERE UH, MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER I'M I, I CAN'T SAY I'M GOING TO TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT. I DIDN'T SEE WHAT WAS WHAT WAS AVAILABLE BY ZONING DISTRICT OTHER THAN JUST LISTING ALL THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE COMMERCIAL OR OFFICE. RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S FAIR. YEAH, I WAS KIND OF LOOKING FOR THOSE THE ONES THAT ARE IN THAT GRAY SPACE, THE ONES THAT OFFICE SPACES THAT ARE DESIGNATED ON THIS MAP THAT DON'T HAVE A DOT DO YOU IS THERE A REASON THEY DON'T HAVE A DOT? IS IT LIKE OR COULD THERE BE MULTIPLE REASONS? ONE THERE ALREADY MULTI-USE RESIDENTIAL TWO THEY'RE NOT THEY HAVE NO VACANCIES LIKE WHAT WOULD BE THE REASONS THAT AN L AN AN OFFICE SPACE DESIGNEE DID ON HERE WHICH MIGHT IN FACT BE IN A DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL WOULDN'T HAVE A DOT ON IT A MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THE THE DATA PRESENTED TO YOU IS ALL THE OFFICE PROPERTIES RIGHT NOW BASED ON THE ASSESSING DATA THAT WAS AVAILABLE AND SO ANY ANY DOTS THAT YOU'RE SEEING DEPICTED HERE IS AN OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S THAT'S EITHER THAT WOULD ALLOW MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR WOULDN'T BASED ON THE LOCATION WITHIN THE OC DISTRICT. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND. SO SO I SHOULD THE THINGS THAT DON'T HAVE DOTS ON THEM MAY NOT BE OFFICE BUILDINGS AT ALL IN WHICH CASE AND THAT'S WHY WE WOULDN'T HAVE A DOT DESIGNATION ON THEM. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER I'M SORRY. >> YOU'RE RIGHT. YES. YES. SO WE ARE DEPICTING ALL THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE OFFICE AND OR RESIDENTIAL OR OFFICE AND OR COMMERCIAL SO THAT YEAH, THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THE DOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE AN OFFICE BUILDING. RIGHT. OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. CERTAINLY. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I HAVE KIND OF A MACRO QUESTION SO I LOVED SEEING THAT BLOOMINGTON IS AT LEAST TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. BUT I'M WONDERING WHY OTHER SUBURBS HAVE SUCH A LOWER VACANCY RATE GIVEN THEY'RE STRUGGLING WITH THE SAME KIND OF ECONOMIC THINGS THAT WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH? MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, I, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN THERE WAS A THE SUBURBAN AREA OR A SUBURBAN MARKET IS PRETTY HUGE AND SO WE WEREN'T REALLY I WAS RESEARCH WASN'T ABLE TO TEASE OUT THOSE FACTORS ABOUT WHY BLOOMINGTON MIGHT BE FARING WORSE THAN THE SUBURBAN MARKET AS A WHOLE OKAY AND I GUESS ONE OF THE REASONS I ASK BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS WAS KIND OF STREAMLINING THINGS TO MAKE IT EASIER AND I'M LIKE IS THIS KIND OF AN EXAMPLE THAT MAYBE WE HAVE STRICTER REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE SO IT'S HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO I'M JUST TRYING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT'S THE ROOT CAUSE BECAUSE AGAIN THOSE OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DEALING WITH THE SAME, YOU KNOW, REMOTE WORK KIND OF MISSING OR DO THEY JUST HAVE LESS OFFICE BUILDINGS SO WE AND WE JUST HAVE WAY MORE THAN THE AVERAGE SUBURB, YOU KNOW? MM HMM. YEAH. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, THE THE REASONING BEHIND I YOU KNOW, AGAIN THE RESEARCH DIDN'T REALLY REVEAL THAT. I SUPPOSE THE NEXT STEP IF WE REALLY WANTED TO TEASE OUT THE FACTORS THAT LEAD TO THAT IMBALANCE BETWEEN BLOOMINGTON AND THE REST OF THE SUBURBAN MARKET ARE THE COMPARISONS BETWEEN THE TWO WOULD BE MAYBE LOOKING AT SOME OF THEIR PEER CITIES THAT WERE SURVEYED LOOKING AT THEIR STANDARDS AND TRYING TO UNCOVER WHAT THEIR STANDARDS ARE AND WHAT MIGHT PROHIBIT CONVERSION OR SEVERELY IMPEDE IT AND COMPARE IT TO WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR BOOKS. BUT WE JUST DIDN'T GO INTO THAT RESEARCH OTHER THAN TO OTHER THAN TO JUST COMPARE GENERALLY THROUGH THROUGH THOSE RATES YOU KNOW HOW WE'RE PERFORMING. YEAH. SO WE DIDN'T GET BEYOND THAT. YEAH. AND I WOULDN'T EVEN SAY I'M NOT EVEN I'M KIND OF EVEN THINKING BEYOND CONVERSION. I'M JUST THINKING LIKE VACANCY RATES LIKE WHY WHY DO WE HAVE HIGHER VACANCY RATES COMPARED TO OTHER SUBURBS? BUT I TOTALLY HEAR YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER AT THIS TIME. I THINK IT IS A QUESTION THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE CURIOUS ABOUT. MAYBE COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS THE ANSWER BUT I DO HAVE ONE QUICK OTHER QUESTION JUST TO CLARIFY IN QUESTION. SO FOR YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THE RECOMMENDATION OF ALLOWING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN THE B1B TO CR1 AND C. S ONE ZONING, WOULD THAT BE ONLY FOR CONVERSIONS OR SHOULD WOULD WE KIND OF WOULD THAT SOMEBODY WANTED TO KNOCK DOWN A BUILDING AND BUILD A NEW MULTIFAMILY BUILDING? >> WOULD WE ALLOW THAT UH ME OR COUNCILMEMBER IT WOULD BE FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. SO IT WOULD IT IT WOULD OPEN UP MORE POSSIBILITIES FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT BUT IN AGAIN JUST AIDING IN THE CONVERSION FOR THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN CONVERTING TO RESIDENTIAL. REGARDING THE THE DIFFERENCES AGAIN THERE MIGHT BE ALSO LOCATIONAL FACTORS TOO JUST THAT LEAD TO THESE IMBALANCES WITHIN VACANCY THAT A MARKET STUDY WOULD REVEAL YOU KNOW THAT WOULD BE A ACTUALLY I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE INTENSITY OF SUCH A MARKET STUDY IF IT OR THE SORT OF INVESTMENT THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO REVEAL THOSE FACTORS REVEALING A REVEALING THAT IMBALANCE BETWEEN US AND THE REST OF THE SUBURBAN MARKET. SO THAT'S SOMETHING ALSO TO CONSIDER IS JUST EITHER THE STANDARDS WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS AND THEN THERE'S JUST THESE MARKET PROPERTIES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO VACANCY OR YOU KNOW THE HEALTH OF AN OFFICE OFFICE MARKET LOCALLY. MM HMM. I THINK YOU I WOULD ALSO VENTURE TO GUESS THAT OUR OFFICE BUILDINGS MAY BE OLDER THAN MANY OF THE OFFICE BUILDINGS IN OTHER SUBURBS. THAT'S JUST I GUESS BE INTERESTING IT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING STUDY THOUGH TO DO TO FIGURE OUT ABC QUALITY OF OFFICES AND PRICE AND LOCATIONS AND SO ON SO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH THANK YOU MAYOR. I MIGHT ALSO VENTURE A GUESS JUST THAT THE CLOSER YOU GET TO THE URBAN CORE THE HIGHER RATE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE. MINNEAPOLIS IS HIGHER THAN US. I'M GOING TO GUESS LAKE IS LOWER AND I JUST THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TYPE OF OFFICES WE'RE PROBABLY I BELIEVE WE'RE THE ONLY PLACE THAT HAS CLASS-A OFFICE SPACE OUTSIDE OF MINNEAPOLIS ST. PAUL AND SO THERE MAY I THINK IT'S THAT COMPONENT OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS URBANIZED VERSUS LOWER SIZE OFFICE BUILDING. SO BUT MY QUESTIONS ON THIS WERE YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE AND THE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS AND ACTUALLY IN GENERAL AND YOU KNOW I'D BE OKAY WITH JUST BUILDING HOUSING UNITS EVERYONE I THINK MY COLLEAGUES ALL KNOW THAT. HOWEVER I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT YOU SAY IT'S AN IMPEDIMENT TO THE MARKET AND YET IT'S NOT AN IMPEDIMENT ON NEW DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT AND WE PUT IT THERE WITH THAT SAID, I ALSO THINK IT BRINGS IN A OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN A LOT OF OTHER TOOLS AND YOU TALKED ABOUT PARKING THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE HAS BUILT INTO IT PARKING FLEXIBILITY IT'S ALREADY THERE. I THINK IT ALREADY PROVIDES THE SOLUTION THAT WE'VE DEFINED WHETHER I FIND IT TO BE THE RIGHT WAY OR THE WRONG WAY IT'S IT ALREADY HAS THE SOLUTION TO THAT PARKING IN MY MIND BUILT INTO IT ON THERE BUT WE'RE NOT HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT. SO I CAN GIVE MY OPINION RIGHT NOW. SO IN IN GENERAL I THINK YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB ON THIS. I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE THAT WE'RE OPEN TO THIS. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF STUDY GIVEN THE RELATIVE DEMAND THAT WE'VE SEEN HERE AND WHAT WE HEARD FROM OUR OTHER CITIES AROUND US. THEY'RE NOT HEARING A LOT. I AM AWARE THAT I BELIEVE ONE DEVELOPER IS LOOKING AT A PROJECT OF A CONVERSION. I THINK THE MAYOR'S AWARE OF THIS AND HAS MET WITH THEM AS WELL AND I THINK WE WE JUST NEED TO WORK WITH THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING AT IT TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT BARRIERS WE HAVE AND AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE DO IF AND WHEN THOSE COME DOWN THE PIPELINE AND JUST MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW WE'RE OPEN TO THIS. I MEAN THIS IS AN IDEA THAT I THINK MAKES SENSE. I JUST I WOULD HATE TO SPEND A BUNCH OF TIME TRYING TO GUESS WHAT PEOPLE MIGHT WANT AND INSTEAD OF JUST WHEN THEY COME IN LIKE LETTING THEM KNOW WE'RE OPEN TO IT AND HAVING THAT CONVERSATION AND FIGURING IT OUT SO THAT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION ON THIS I THINK I THINK I THINK THAT CONCEPT MAKES A TON OF SENSE AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LOOKING INTO IT. I JUST WOULD NOT GO AS FAR AS DOING A TON OF STUDY AND I'VE TAKEN UP A BUNCH OF YOUR TIME ON SOMETHING THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BRING ANYTHING FORWARD. AND IF I MAY SAY UH, MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER I TALKED ABOUT THE WHAT THE COURSE CITIES ARE DOING TO RESPOND TO OFFICE VACANCIES WITHIN THEIR, YOU KNOW, RELATIVE JURISDICTIONS. THEY MAY BE ADOPTING A MORE AGGRESSIVE POSTURE BECAUSE OF JUST THE RELIANCE ON THE ON OFFICE THAT THEY'RE SEEING VACANT. AND SO THEY NEED TO DO THIS. THEY NEED TO FILL THAT GAP WITH ANOTHER USE RESIDENTIAL MAKES THE MOST SENSE GIVEN MULTIPLE CONSIDERATIONS AND SO IF BLOOMINGTON MAY NOT HAVE TO BE AS AGGRESSIVE BECAUSE OF JUST THE RELATIVE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN US AND THE CORE CITIES SO COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR THAT STATEMENT LEADS EXACTLY INTO WHAT I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE IF WE ALLOW CONVERSIONS WHAT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE PEOPLE WHO END UP LIVING THERE AND NOT ONLY THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS WHO END UP LIVING IN THERE BUT QUALITY OF BUSINESS IF I'M SURROUNDED BY A BUNCH OF RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS SO I WANT TO MOVE MY HEADQUARTERS TO THIS PARTICULAR OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S SURROUNDED BY ONLY RESIDENTIAL LAW AND THEN OVERALL THE VISION I, I COMPLETELY SEE AND UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE IN THE SOUTH LOOP TO BE AN URBAN DEVELOPMENT CENTER WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE. WE CAN HAVE HEADQUARTERS WE'VE DESIGNED FOR SPECIFICALLY FOR THE TROUBLE I'M HAVING IS THE VISION OF OUR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS NODES JUST DUMPING THIS ON THERE IT DOES IT FIT BUT IS THE IS THE SOLUTION WE'RE PROPOSING OR SHORT TERM SOLUTION FOR THE CURRENT EFFECTS WE HAVE? AND THEN WHAT ARE THE LONG TERM EFFECTS OF THAT? RIGHT. SO LIKE YOU MENTIONED MINNEAPOLIS AND PAUL THEY'RE MORE DEPENDENT ON THOSE BUSINESS DISTRICTS AND SO THEY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING IN THE SHORT TERM TO SUPPORT THEIR CITIES BUT OVERALL IN THE LONG TERM THEIR BUSINESS DISTRICTS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SAY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND DEVELOP AND STAY STRONG. BUT IF WE CONVERT AND WE GET NEW DEVELOPMENT, WE CONVERT ALL THESE BUILDINGS, WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE IN A 5100 YEARS WHEN WE'RE STRUGGLING TO ATTRACT COMPANIES TO COME TO BLOOMINGTON OR THESE BUSINESS NODES THAT WE'VE TRADITIONALLY HAD HAVE JUST KIND OF GONE AWAY AND BECOME MORE RESIDENTIAL. ARE WE LIMITING OURSELVES? SO THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. WHAT'S THE REAL VISION BETWEEN OUR COMMERCIAL KNOWS HOW CAN WE SUPPORT THAT AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE NOT ONLY FOR RESIDENTS WHO END UP LIVING IN THOSE SPACES BUT ALSO THE QUALITY OF BUSINESS FOR ANY ORGANIZATION OR COMPANY WHO WANTS TO COME TO BLOOMINGTON TO SET UP SHOP. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION. STAFF IS A PUT TOGETHER YOU KNOW I SAY AS I LOOK THROUGH THIS IS KIND OF FUNNY I JUST NOTICED AS I WAS LOOKING AT THE AGENDA HERE ON THE BOTTOM THERE'S OUR MISSION STATEMENT CULTIVATE AN ENDURING REMARKABLE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE I THAT THAT WAS A I HAD NO SET BEFORE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NEW TODAY OR JUST I THOUGHT THAT WAS IRONIC. I'LL PICK UP WHERE MY FELLOW COUNCILMEMBER LEFT OFF WITH THE IDEA OF A VISION AND AS I LOOK ACROSS THIS 484 CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW WE HAVE A NUMBER OF BUSINESS DISTRICTS AND I KNOW THIS COUNCIL ITSELF HAD WANTED TO KIND OF OPEN THAT UP AND KIND OF LOOK AT DOING SOME DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THAT. AND THIS IS THIS IS AN EXAMPLE I THINK A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION THAT YOU KNOW, THIS THIS COUNCIL MAY LOOK AT THOSE THOSE INDIVIDUAL AREAS DIFFERENTLY. WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME OF THAT CONVERSATION ALONG LYNDALE SO YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE THEME I LOOK AT IS RATHER THAN MAYBE THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING MAYBE DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY OFFICE YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IF WE HAD A PROGRAM TO TRY TO SPUR THAT TYPE OF THINKING ON TO TRY TO INVEST IN THAT YOU KNOW DEPENDING ON YOU KNOW WHERE THIS COUNCIL IS AT WITH THOSE DIFFERENT BUSINESS DISTRICTS AND I KNOW THAT OUR YOU KNOW, OUR COUNCIL IS A LITTLE MORE INTERESTED IN HOUSING AND THAT TYPE OF THING. SO I THINK IT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE WHAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY . SO JUST KIND OF MOVING ALONG, YOU KNOW AND AS I LOOK AT THAT THAT CITY THE CITY ASSESSING THAT WE HAD A NUMBER OF WEEKS BACK WHERE THAT CONVERSATION YOU KNOW, WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF COMPARE US TO MINNEAPOLIS AND ST PAUL WITH THAT TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, MIX OF OF ASSESSING PROPERTIES. THE QUESTION THAT COMES TO MY MIND AS I LOOK AT THIS PROPOSAL AND THAT CONVERSATION THAT YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE KIND OF HAVING UP HERE ABOUT THE VISION AND THE FOCUS OF THIS I ASKED MYSELF WHAT IS THE PROPER BALANCE IF WE'RE GOING TO CAN DO THIS CVERSION? YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT 107 HERE. YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE MAKING OUR WAY DOWN IF WE GET RID OF, YOU KNOW, FIVE 5% THAT THAT TAKE US DOWN TO 100 YOU KNOW, IF WE GOT RID OF 10% THAT'S YOU KNOW, WE'RE AROUND 90 SOME ODD YOU KNOW, SPACES. WHAT IS THE PROPER AMOUNT OF OF OFFICE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND YOU KNOW AS I AS I LOOK AT THAT WE'VE GOT OTHER YOU KNOW, FACTORS THAT ARE IMPACTING THAT IN TERMS OF RETURN TO WORK, I WOULD HATE TO HAVE US UNDER BALANCE THIS AND OVERSHOOT IT AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE DON'T HAVE OFFICE AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING FOR PLACES TO TO TO TO PUT TO PUT OFFICE ITHE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SO I GUESS IN MY OPINION AS I KIND OF LOOK AT THIS, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE I'M ALL ABOUT HOUSING. I LIKE THAT IDEA BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAYBE CONDOS. I KNOW THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS EVEN PRACTICAL. IF WE COULD GET THAT TYPE OF CONVERSION I'D BE A LOT MORE INTERESTED IN THAT AND DOING THAT HERE WE'RE SEEING THE TRENDS OF WORK FROM HOME BEING DECIMATED. THE ECONOMY IS CONTINUING TO SHIFT AND SO YOU KNOW WE'RE REALLY ONLY 5 OR 10% OFF OF WHERE WE WANT TO BE AT. SO I JUST I'M NERVOUS ABOUT MAKING THIS TYPE OF MOVE WITHOUT HAVING SOME OF THOSE OTHER BROADER QUESTIONS ANSWERED BY THIS BODY AROUND SOME BUSINESS NODES AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS I BROUGHT UP EARLIER. BUT THANK YOU. I SEE COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS THAN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THAN COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, JUST A QUICK QUESTION. EVERYBODY ASKS ALL THE QUESTIONS ALREADY BUT I DO YOU MENTIONED THAT 10% IS OF OF LACK OF OCCUPANCY IS HEALTHY RIGHT? SO WE ARE ONLY 5% OF WHICH IS MINIMAL I GUESS I'M ONLY ASSUMING BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS I'M SO WHAT HOW MUCH HOW MANY BUILDINGS ARE EMPTY IF IT'S ONLY 5% OF THE OF THE OFFICES THAT ARE EMPTY AT THIS POINT HOW MUCH OF THAT IS THE IMPACT ON THE TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY? I MEAN I'M ONLY CURIOUS BECAUSE IF 5% IS WHAT WE WORRIED ABOUT, 16% IS HEALTHY, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST LEFT IT OR LEAVE IT ALONE BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO INVEST TIME OR OR FUNDS TO LOOK INTO IT SINCE YOU KNOW, 5% IS ACHIEVABLE. I GUESS AGAIN I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OF EMPTY OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY BUT IS 5% THAT MUCH OF AN IMPACT? DOES HE HAVE MUCH OF AN IMPACT ON CITY FINANCES? UH, MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER I, I DON'T KNOW THE HIT IT IT YOU KNOW THE CITY TAKES FROM HAVING OF OF OFFICE VACANCY RATE OF 15.4% I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT RESULTS IN LOST REVENUE YOU KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION THAT HAS BEEN FOCUSING ON OFFICE TO RESIDENTIAL. WE ARE YOU KNOW JUST A REMINDER THIS IS THINKING ABOUT OFFICE TO NANA OFFICE USES SO WE'RE YOU KNOW WE MIGHT BE IN A COMFORTABLE SPACE RIGHT NOW OR SOMETHING THAT'S YOU KNOW ARE MANAGEABLE AT 15.4% THIS COULD BE ANTICIPATING EITHER YOU KNOW HOPEFULLY NOT WORSENING CONDITIONS BUT IT COULD IT COULD BE IN SERVICE OF THOSE CONDITIONS TO JUST GIVE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT SORT OF RELIEF AND FLEXIBILITY ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT NON OFFICE USES NOT JUST OFFICE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND AGAIN WE ARE ANOTHER OR JUST A REMINDER ABOUT THE WARNING I GAVE EARLIER ABOUT WE DIDN'T WE'RE NOT SURE ABOUT THE CONDITION OF OFFICE VACANT OFFICE RIGHT NOW WHETHER IT'S EASILY CONVERTED INTO A DIFFERENT USE OR RESIDENTIAL FOR THAT MATTER RESIDENTIAL SEEMS TO BE THE THE BIGGER TOPIC OF ALL THE USES SO I MEAN I UNDERSTAND THE FOCUS ON THAT BUT IT'S SOMETHING STILL TO CONSIDER. WE ARE IDENTIFYING PRIVATE PROPERTIES WITH VACANT OFFICE SPACE HOW WHAT THE HIT IS TO THE CITY'S REVENUE I'M NOT REALLY SURE IT'S HARD TO ASSESSING ABOUT THAT. I MEAN TO GIVE A BALLPARK NUMBER TO SEE IF THAT WARRANTS FURTHER STUDY AND DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'VE PRESENTED. FOR INSTANCE THE EXPANDING ES OR EXPANDING MULTIFAMILY INTO OTHER OFFICE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT DISTRICTS THAT WAS JUST ONE USE WE COULD TRY TO FIND OTHER USES THAT WE'VE RAN INTO COMPLICATIONS BEFORE AND SEE IF THEY WOULD FIT BETTER INTO OTHER COMMERCIAL OFFICE DISTRICTS AGAIN TO JUST GIVE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THE BROADER RANGE OF CHOICES OF HOW TO ACTIVATE THEIR SPACES IF THEY'VE BEEN DORMANT FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. SO BUT YOU KNOW YOUR POINT IS TAKING THAT IT COULD BE A HIT TO CITY OFFICE. I MEAN THE CITY'S REVENUE BUT I'M NOT SURE I COULD COME BACK AND REPORT LATER WITH THAT NUMBER WITH AN ESTIMATION FROM OUR ASSESSING DIVISION. YOU YOU DON'T HAVE TO I WAS JUST CURIOUS, OKAY. HOW YOU KNOW THAT SAID I MEAN I KIND OF LEAN ON SUPPORTING THE IDEA OF GIVING THE PROPERTY OWNERS THE ABILITY TO HAVE OPTIONS BUT AT THE SAME TIME I MEAN IF YOU KNOW FROM WHAT YOU STATED THAT 10% IS A CUSHION I 5% IT'S NOT THAT MUCH IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW. I MEAN IT COULD BE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE LOOK AT IT FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW BUT I AGREE THAT IT COULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO HAVE OPTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I HAD A SIMILAR SIMILAR COMMENT TO COUNCILMEMBER RIOS COMMENT THAT IF WE'RE AT IF WE THINK THAT 5 TO 10% IS IDEAL AND WE'RE AT 18%, THEN WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH WIGGLE ROOM THERE. AND I'D BE HESITANT TO TO THAT UP IN IN IN OTHER USES AND THEN FIND OURSELVES WITH A DEARTH OF OFFICE SPACE OF THAT ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE TRENDING THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE TRENDING. SO THAT WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT THERE DOES SEEM TO BE 55 BUILDINGS ALREADY IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU KNOW THAT WHERE WHERE THEY MIGHT BE GOOD. I MEAN THEY'RE GENERALLY SPREAD OUT WHERE I WOULD EXPECT THEM TO BE AND SO I WOULD THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, A SOLICITATION TO THOSE OFFICE SPACES WOULD BE KIND OF INTERESTING. THERE'S ALSO YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN THROWN OUT HERE THAT I I THINK IS AN AN INTERESTING CONCEPT WHICH IS IF WE COULD IF WE IT'S ALWAYS HARD BECAUSE YOU KNOW, PROPERTY PROPERTY OWNER OR DEVELOPER A PROPERTY OWNER DEVELOPER BE MAY NOT WANT TO DO THIS BUT YOU KNOW I KNOW THAT THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO CREATE VACANCIES IN THE CITY VACANCIES THAT COULD BE CONVERTED MEANING LIKE TEARDOWNS EVEN IF PEOPLE WOULD CONSOLIDATE. YOU KNOW I THINK FOR EXAMPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ALONG ALONG THE BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD NOPE SORRY BLOOMINGTON ACCESS ROAD THE THERE'S TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AND THEY'RE BOTH PROBABLY 50% OCCUPIED AND IF THEY COULD JUST GO TOGETHER YOU'D HAVE THIS BIG, BIG SPACE THAT WE YOU KNOW THAT THAT PEOPLE THEN COULD DO ALL KINDS OF AMAZING THINGS WITH. WE COULD OPEN THE FLOODGATES BUT YOU KNOW YOU KNOW GROUP ONE OWNS ONE AND GROUP OWNED ONE YOU KNOW TWO OWNS THE OTHER AND THEY MAY NOT PLAY NICE TOGETHER AND THEREFORE IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN. RIGHT. HAVE THAT ON LYNDALE ALL ALONG BETWEEN 90TH AND 94TH WE HAVE LOTS OF THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE IF WE COULD SHUFFLE THE DECK A LITTLE BIT WE'D FIND OPPORTUNITIES WITHOUT HAVING TO NECESSARILY DO A LOT OF WORK THAT MIGHT BE PROACTIVELY INTERESTING TO PEOPLE. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW YOU UNLEASH I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU UNLEASH THAT ANY MORE THAN I UNDER MY MY YOU KNOW MY CAUSE CELEB RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF GETTING DEVELOPERS TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE RESTAURANT SPACES AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AREN'T BURDENED RIGHT IT'S THE SAME THING THESE DEVELOPERS HAVE TO COME TO THE TABLE AND WANT TO TO MOVE THINGS AROUND AND MAKE MAKE THINGS HAPPEN. SO UNTIL THEY DO THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT I SPEND A LOT OF I WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF YOU KNOW, CITY RESOURCES AND CITY MONEY TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN THAT THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO COME TO THE TABLE AND SUPPORT NECESSARILY. SO I THINK THE IDEA FIRST OFF I REALLY THOUGHT THAT THE THE BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD THING IN EAGAN WAS INTERESTING TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A VERY SPECIFIC THING THAT TURNED OUT REALLY POSITIVELY AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE CONDITIONS AROUND WHICH THAT HAPPENED SO THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY I MEAN MAYBE THERE'S THREE THREE BUILDINGS IN IN BLOOMINGTON RIGHT NOW THAT ARE CARBON COPIES OF THAT CONCEPT AND WE COULD BE VERY PROACTIVE IN AND YOU KNOW, TARGETED WITH THE WITH THE IDEA AS OPPOSED TO LIKE I'M ALWAYS A SCALPEL VERSUS A SLEDGEHAMMER KIND OF PERSON ANYWAY. SO YOU KNOW PILOTING THIS KIND OF THING IS EASIER FOR ME TO SWALLOW THAN LIKE HEY, LET'S JUST CHANGE THE ZONING LAWS ALL OVER THE CITY. IT ALWAYS BUGS ME SO I WOULD SAY MAYBE THOSE TWO THINGS WOULD BE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE HAVE YOU ALL TAKE AWAY FIRST OFF GET A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS AND KIND OF GET A USE CASE FOR US AROUND THE EAGAN PROPERTY AND WHY THAT WENT SO WELL AND WHAT WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS WHERE IT'S LOCATED? YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDING THAT MADE IT TOLERABLE AGAINST ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT BE HINDRANCES ETC. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE YES BEING PROACTIVE ABOUT PUTTING OUT YOU KNOW, THE THE WHERE OPEN SIGN ON THESE THINGS. I THINK THOSE TWO THINGS ARE GOOD ACTIVITIES RIGHT NOW. I'D HESITATE TO DO THE OTHER ONES AT THE MOMENT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT WE KNOW ENOUGH AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH SPACE IN THE TO MAKE A FAIRLY LARGE MISTAKE OR A OVERINDEX AND RECOVER FROM IT. THANKS. THANK COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND THEN COUNCILMEMBERS, LET'S WRAP THIS UP. I THINK EVERYBODY'S HAD A SHOT HERE AND I THINK EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SAID JUST NOT EVERYBODY HAS SAID IT YET. SO YEAH. CARTER WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD. YEAH. SO I WOULD SAY I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AS I LOOK AT THE DOTS ON THIS MAP. I MEAN WE WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE BANGING DOWN OUR DOORS ALREADY TO ME TO DO THESE CONVERSIONS AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT BY CHANGING THOSE RED DOTS OR GREEN WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN GOING TO HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF BUSINESS OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO DO THESE CONVERSIONS AND IT CAN BE OVERWHELMING AND WE'RE GOING TO LOSE TONS OF OFFICE SPACE AND I'M ALSO OPEN TO NOT JUST CONVERSIONS TO MULTIFAMILY HOUSING BUT TO OTHER CONVERSIONS IF WE ARE OPEN TO THAT OR IF THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN ADD TO THOSE ZONES. AND THEN WHEN I LOOK AT THE NODES LIKE MOST OF THESE NODES ALREADY HAVE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AT THE NODES AND THEN LOOKING AT 90TH AND PENN WHICH IS RIGHT BY MY HOUSE AND THERE'S ALREADY MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS IN THAT AREA AND IF LIKE I'M LOOKING AT THOSE RED DOTS AND I'M IMAGINING WHICH BUILDING THOSE ARE AND I'M LIKE THEY'D BE GREAT. LIKE IF THEY COULD ACTUALLY BE TRANSITIONED THEY'D BE GREAT BUILDINGS TO BE TRANSITIONED AND BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO AGAIN IF WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO HAVE THIS HUGE IMPACT, YOU KNOW MAYBE I'D BE A LITTLE BIT MORE HESITANT BUT I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE DIRECTION. I THINK IT'S A MEASURED APPROACH WHICH I DO AGREE WE DON'T WANT TO KIND OF THROW EVERYTHING AT IT AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN TEN YEARS FROM NOW BE LOOKING AROUND AND THINKING OH GOSH, I WISH WE HAD MORE OFFICE SPACE. BUT I THINK THIS IS A VERY, VERY MEASURED APPROACH SO I'M SUPPORTIVE. ANYBODY ELSE? COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANKS MAYOR. I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. JUST QUICK QUESTION. THIS ALLOWS FOR A PARTIAL CONVERSION SO AN OFFICE COULD CONVERT PART THANK YOU. THOSE ARE YES IF NOBODY SAW THE HAD NONE AND THEN THIS WOULD ALLOW SOMEONE TO BUILD A NEW AS OPPOSED TO A LOT OF THE MIXED USE WE THINK OF AS RETAIL MAIN LEVEL RESIDENTIAL ABOVE IT BUT THIS COULD BE A NEW BUILDING WITH OFFICE AND RETAIL AS WELL. CORRECT? OKAY. AND I ALSO JUST WANT TO CLARIFY MY COMMENTS EARLIER. I, I AGREE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF THE ADDING MULTIFAMILY TO THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS AND MOVING THOSE TYPES OF THIS PROPOSAL FORWARD. WHAT I WAS HESITANT ON WAS JUST THE THE STUDY AND THE THE LABOR INTENSIVE PART THAT YOU HAD IN THERE AND I THINK THAT AS TO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER'S YOU KNOW, HANGING THAT SIGN OUT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THAT WE'RE OPEN TO THIS SORT OF THING, I ALSO WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD. I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC OF IT BUT I BELIEVE THAT IT MEANT THAT A MAJOR EMPLOYER LEFT THEIR COMMUNITY AND THAT'S WHY THEY HAD THAT THEY DIDN'T THEY STAYED THERE SO THEY CONSOLIDATE THAT WELL GOOD. THAT'S EVEN BETTER. SO I APPRECIATE THAT THAT INFORMATION AND I'M NOT SURPRISED, YOU KNOW THAT. SO COUNCIL WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING IS THE SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK WE'RE GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THAT. I THINK THE BIGGEST POINT OF DISCUSSION IS IF WE MOVE THIS TOWARD A PUBLIC HEARING MIGHT BE THE ALLOWING THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AS IN THE ZONING YOU KNOW CHANGING THE ZONING AND TALKING ABOUT THAT. BUT I THINK WE ARE IN CONSENSUS THAT YES, YOU KNOW, HANG UP THE SHINGLE AND AT LEAST LET FOLKS KNOW THAT THIS IS A POSSIBILITY AND HELP WHERE POSSIBLE AND WHERE NEEDED AND IF SOMETHING SHOULD HAPPEN EVEN IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, 1 OR 2 PLACES AND WE KNOW OF ONE THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION ALREADY THAT IT WOULD BE IT WOULDN'T BE A BAD THING. SO I MEAN ARE WE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? RIGHT. OKAY. CAN YOU WORK WITH THAT? YES SIR. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD. I'M ACTUALLY NOT FOR THE CHANGE IN ZONING. NOT THAT THAT MATTERS. YOU SAID GENERAL CONSENSUS, BUT IN CASE THAT WAS NOT CLEAR, I JUST UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. AND I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS A STUDY SESSION. THIS WOULDN'T I MEAN I UNDERSTAND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. YEP. YEP. WE'LL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT FOR NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON NINE AND 5.2 TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE RECEIPT OF RESOLUTIONS FROM THE CHARTER COMMISSION AND SET OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. MISS MENDOZA OUT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MAYOR MEMBERS SO THE CHARTER COMMISSION HAD ITS ANNUAL MEETING ON THURSDAY JUST THE OTHER DAY AND AT THAT MEETING WE SUMMARIZE THE CONCLUSION OF THE LAST THREE CHAPTERS OF OUR PERIODIC REVIEW OF THE CHARTER THIS PAST YEAR WE COVERED THREE CHAPTERS FOUR, FIVE AND SIX AND THERE ARE SOME REQUESTS FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ACTING BY ORDINANCE WHICH IS ONE OF THE WAYS THE COUNCIL CAN THE CITY CAN AMEND ITS CHARTER AND SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO SOME AMENDMENTS IN CHAPTER FIVE AND SOME AMENDMENTS IN CHAPTER SIX I'VE BUNDLED THEM TOGETHER FOR PURPOSES OF EFFICIENCY TONIGHT BUT THEY'LL TRAVEL SEPARATELY AFTER TONIGHT. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THAT BUT THE AGENDA ITEM DESCRIBES THEM AS CLERICAL AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I DON'T MEAN HOUSEKEEPING. THIS IS ADMINISTRATIVE AND THAT'S THE TERM WHAT I MEAN FOR CLERICAL JUST TO BE CLEAR. SO THERE ARE THE EDITS IN CHAPTER FIVE ARE THE FOLLOWING AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN THE PACKET. THERE'S AN ORDINANCE ATTACHED TO THE RESOLUTION FROM THE FROM THE CHARTER COMMISSION THEY ARE ADDING AN EMAIL AND A TELEPHONE INFORMATION FOR THE FIVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION THAT WOULD COME TOGETHER TO SUBMIT A PETITION FOR A RECALL REFERENDUM OR INITIATIVE. THIS IS A REQUEST THAT WAS MADE BY THE CHARTER COMMISSION AND THE CITY CLERK AGREED THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. THERE ARE SOME PROCESS REQUIREMENTS IN OUR CHARTER AND IN THE LAW THAT REQUIRES A COMMUNICATION AND BACK AND FORTH AND A VERY TIME SENSITIVE COMMUNICATION SO THE CLERK WAS VERY INTERESTED IN HAVING THAT ADDED AS A WAY OF HELPING THE CLERK DO HER JOB QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY. SO THAT'S ADDED YOU'LL SEE THAT THE OTHER THING THAT WAS ADDED WAS SOME LANGUAGE. ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS INDICATED THAT ONE OF THE SECTIONS IN THE PETITION DIDN'T SORT OF FOLLOW THE THE CADENCE OF THE LANGUAGE IN THE OTHER TWO PETITIONS AND SUGGESTED CHANGE. WE DISCUSSED IT AND ALL AGREED THAT IT WAS AN IMPROVEME AND SO THAT CHANGE WAS MADE. IT'S IT'S THE LANGUAGE RIGHT BEFORE THE PETITIONERS SIGN THAT EXPLAINS TO THEM WHAT IS HAPPENING SO THAT IS IN THE REFERENDUM SECTION WHERE THE COMMUNITY SEEKS TO PULL BACK ON AND AN ORDINANCE THAT YOU ALL HAVE ADOPTED. AND THEN THE FINAL THING IS ANOTHER SORT OF THING THAT WAS UNCOVERED DURING THE PERIODIC REVIEW OF THE CHARTER RELATED TO SOME INCONSISTENCIES IN THE NAME OF THE PETITION SECTIONS EACH ONE OF THEM WE LEARNED DISCOVERED WHEN WE COMPARED THEM HAD A DIFFERENT NAME EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE ALL DOING THE SAME THING. SO WE CHANGED THEM TO ALL BE THE SAME AND HAVE THE WORD PETITION IN THEM IN THE TITLE. SO THAT WOULD MAKE THE COMMUNITY PROBABLY MORE ABLE TO FIND THEM. SO THAT'S THE GIST OF THE CHAPTER FIVE EDITS AND AGAIN THERE SPECIFICALLY LAID OUT AS AN ORDINANCE AND THEN CHAPTER SIX IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD IT'S REPLACING THE WORD ASSISTANT BEFORE A CITY MANAGER WITH THE WORD DEPUTY. IT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED TO ME THAT THE TERM DEPUTY CITY MANAGER IS MORE IS BECOMING MORE COMMON AND FOR THE POSITION TITLE SO IT APPEARS IN THREE PLACES IN THE CHARTER AND WE WOULD BE THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE IS IS REQUESTING THAT THOSE BE CHANGED TO THE TERM DEPUTY CITY MANAGER THE THING THAT I WOULD WANT TO JUST PULL TO YOUR ATTENTION IS THAT THE TERM ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ALSO APPEARS IN THE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT POLICIES IN THE CITY CODE AND IN THE COMPENSATION PLAN SO WE WOULD TIME THE EFFECTIVE DATES OF ALL THREE OF THOSE AND IT'S TO BE TO BE AROUND THE SAME TIME SO THAT THEY WOULD ALL BE EFFECTIVE IF YOU CHOOSE TO PROCEED WITH THE CHARTER AMENDMENT BY ORDINANCE. ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THOSE? BEFORE I TALK ABOUT PROCESS COUNCIL QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SO PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD BUT AGAIN JUST REAL REAL ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE. OKAY. SO THE CHARTER CAN BE AMENDED IN ABOUT FOUR WAYS AND FOR THIS PARTICULAR SET OF REQUESTS, THESE TWO REQUESTS THE CHARTER COMMISSION ASKED THE CHARTER ATTORNEY WHICH IS ME WHAT RECOMMENDATION I WOULD HAVE WITH REGARD TO PROCESS MY RECOMMENDATION TO THEM GIVEN THE NATURE OF THESE REQUESTS FOR AMENDMENTS IS TO PROCEED WITH AMENDMENT BY ORDINANCE WHICH MEANS THE CHARTER COMMISSION MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL. THE COUNCIL HOLDS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ORDINANCE AFTER NOTICE IN THE IN THE NEWSPAPER WITH THE TEXT OF THE AMENDMENTS AND YOU HOLD A TYPICAL PUBLIC HEARING LIKE YOU WANT ON ANY ORDINANCE THE DIFFERENCE BEING A COUPLE OF THINGS ONE IT REQUIRES A UNANIMOUS VOTE AND BY UNANIMOUS I MEAN I MEAN ALL SEVEN OF YOU HAVE TO VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AND YOU ALSO HAVE A PERIOD OF TIME FOLLOWING THE AMEND FOLLOWING THE ACTION IF YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE IT WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN ESSENTIALLY SAY NO, WE DON'T WANT THAT CHANGE AND IF THEY DON'T SAY NO WE DON'T WANT THAT CHANGE THEN IT PROCEEDS AFTER 90 DAYS AND IS EFFECTIVE UNLESS YOU SET A DIFFERENT DATE FOR ITS EFFECTIVE DATE. MY PROPOSAL MY RECOMMENDATION TO THIS BODY IS THAT YOU SET A PROPOSAL FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE THAT WILL BE STATED IN THE ORDINANCE OF 90 DAYS AFTER PUBLICATION WHICH IS WHAT THE LAW PROVIDES FOR IS THE SHORTEST TIME PERIOD THAT WILL ALLOW IT TO BE IN EFFECT ENACTED YET THIS CALENDAR YEAR WHICH I THINK WILL BE HELPFUL TO HAVE EVERYTHING WRAPPED UP WITHIN THE 2025 YEAR. SO WITHOUT ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT PROCESS QUESTIONS ON PROCESS COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON THANK YOU MAYOR. I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION ON PROCESS. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE FIRST PART. IS THERE ANY LEGAL DISTINCTION BETWEEN ASSISTANT AND DEPUTY? I RAN INTO THIS WITH AN ATTORNEY BEFORE ABOUT SOMEONE BEING A MANAGER VERSUS BEING A VICE PRESIDENT AND THERE WERE CERTAIN FIDUCIARY OBLIGATIONS AND OTHER LEGAL OBLIGATIONS OF JUST A TITLE CHANGE. AND SO I DON'T KNOW I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH DEPUTY VERSUS ASSISTANT. IS THERE ANYTHING LEGALLY DISTINCT BETWEEN THOSE TERMS? MAY REMEMBERS AND NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE IT IS A TERM THAT WE USE IN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MY DESIGNEES WHEN I AM NOT ABLE TO BE HERE ARE THE DEPUTIES DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY AND WE USE THE TERM IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IN A LOT OF OTHER ENVIRONMENTS IT IS A COMMON TERM FOR THE PERSON WHO IS THE DESIGNEE OR ARE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE IN STANDING IN THE SHOES AS A DESIGNEE. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE USE OF THE TERM. I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WE'VE DEFINED VERY FEW TITLES IN OUR IN OUR ORGANIZATIONAL DOCUMENTS. I BELIEVE A CITY CLERK IS ONE OF THEM AND I THINK EMERGENCY MANAGER AND CITY MANAGER ARE THAT ARE THE TITLES THAT WE HAVE TERMS FOR OUR POSITION DESCRIPTIONS FOR. SO I DON'T FORESEE ANY CHALLENGE WITH CHALLENGES WITH THAT HAVING DONE THE RESEARCH PREVIOUSLY ON WHERE IT APPEARS I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY DOUBLE CHECK ALL OF THAT WHEN WE BRING TOGETHER ANY AS SORT OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE EDITS THAT NEED TO BE DONE AS WELL. COUNSEL ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS AND THE QUESTIONS? SO MAYOR IT'S COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THE JUNE 2ND DATE IS A DATE THAT WOULD WOULD HAVE ALL SEVEN OF YOU PRESENT. SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION FOR WHEN YOU WOULD SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THESE ORDINANCES AND THEN WE WOULD BACK FROM THERE FOR THE FOR THE NOTICES THAT WOULD BE PUBLISHED. I'VE GOT A TIMELINE IN THE PACKET WHICH LAYS OUT EACH OF THESE SUBSEQUENT STEPS. VERY GOOD. SO COUNCIL WE HAVE A MOTION HERE IN FRONT OF US TWO TO CONSIDER AND THIS BASICALLY WOULD SET THE PUBLIC HEARING TO HAVE THE HEARING ON THIS AND DISCUSS FURTHER IN A PUBLIC SETTING BUT IT IS DEPENDENT ON EVERYBODY BEING HERE ON JUNE 2ND, 2025 BECAUSE WE NEED IF WE'RE GOING TO PASS IT WE WOULD NEED ALL SEVEN VOTES. SO JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT ONE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COUNCIL COMMENTS IF NOT I LOOK FOR ACTION ON ITEM 5.2. COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR. I MOVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 5-1C AND 2025 TO SEE FROM THE CITY CHARTER COMMISSION RECOMMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL AND LIKELY CHARTER AMENDMENT BY ORDINANCE TO AMEND CITY CHARTER SECTIONS 5.055.11 AND 5.16 RELATING TO INITIATIVE, REFERENDUM AND RECALL 20 5-1C AND SECTIONS 6.036.26 AND 6.7 RELATING TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF CITY AFFAIRS 20 5-2C AND TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR EACH ORDINANCE AS JUNE 2ND 2025 SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF RESOLUTIONS AS STATED FROM THE CHARTER COMMISSION WITH THE DETAILS AS READ ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU MISS MANAGEMENT THANKS SO MUCH. NEXT UP COUNCIL IS OUR ITEM 5.3 OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE I'LL START BY RE RECALLING OUR CITY COUNCIL LISTENING SESSION FROM EARLIER THIS EVENING WE HAD 1234 SPEAKERS AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER LINDA LANG HAD MANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS ABOUT DISABILITY ACCESS AND ISSUES SURROUNDING THE NEW COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AS WE'RE PLANNING AND INCLUDING THE PARKING ACCESS ENTRANCE DOORS, RESTROOMS AND SO ON. SO APPRECIATE IT. MS. LANG SHE ACTUALLY HAD SUBMITTED A WRITTEN DOCUMENT LAST WEEK AND CAME IN AND TALKED TO US THIS EVENING SO I APPRECIATE HER. ELIZABETH CAMERON WAS BACK AGAIN THIS WEEK. SHE LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENT TO THE NEW COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER PROJECT AND BROUGHT UP SOME CONCERNS ABOUT ACCESS TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC SAFETY, SAFETY IN GENERAL. AND WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH THAT HAS GONE ON AND HAD GONE ON AROUND THIS ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND ALSO WITH THE THE PARKING PLAN OR THE TRAFFIC PLAN THAT IS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON. PAM PALMER WAS ALSO WITH US THIS EVENING AGAIN TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AND ABOUT COMMENTS AT RECENT LISTENING SESSIONS. AND FINALLY PARKER'S JENNY I HAD ALSO CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER IN TERMS OF THE FOLKS WHO WERE BEING CONSULTED AND BEING WHETHER OR NOT FOLKS WERE BEING LISTENED TO IN TERMS OF AGAIN THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE BEING FULLY SERVED OR WOULD BE FULLY CONSIDERED FULLY SERVED AT THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AND THAT WAS OUR COUNCIL LISTENING SESSION FOR MONDAY, MAY 5TH THIS EVENING. THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO ADD AND I KEEP BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE THE FOLKS IN PUBLIC WORKS AND POLICE KEEP TELLING ME TO BRING IT UP IS THAT THE OPEN HOUSE THE BIG DOUBLE HEADER OPEN HOUSE IS ON SATURDAY THE 17TH. PUBLIC WORKS FROM 9 A.M. TO 12 AND THEN POLICE FROM 11 TO 2 P.M. THE OVERLAP BY THAT HOUR SO YOU COULD BRING THE KIDS AND DOING BOTH IF YOU WANTED TO YOU COULD MAKE A DAY OF IT AND IT IS A LOT OF FUN THAT SATURDAY MAY 17TH RIGHT HERE AT CIVIC PLAZA PUBLIC WORKS OBVIOUSLY ACROSS THE STREET AND THEN THE POLICE OPEN HOUSE ON THE SOUTH LAWN JUST TO A SOUTH LAWN AND PARKING LOT JUST NOT TOO FAR FROM WHERE WE'RE SITTING RIGHT NOW. SO RAIN OR SHINE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I REMEMBER A LOT OF RAIN IN DIFFERENT IN PAST YEARS BUT I ALSO REMEMBER A LOT OF SUNBURNS AND A LOT OF SHINE. SO PLEASE JOIN US FOR A LOT OF FUN. MISTING DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD THIS EVENING? YES. >> THIS WILL NOT COME TO A SURPRISE FOR ANYONE HERE ANYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS BUT WE LEARNED LAST WEEK FROM LIVABILITY AECOM THAT WE ARE A TOP 100 PLACE TO LIVE IN THE WHOLE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND SO WE ACTUALLY ARE IN THE TOP 20 AND THEY CONSIDER IT SMALL TO MEDIUM CITIES. MANY ANNAPOLIS IS CONSIDERED A SMALL TO MEDIUM CITY ON THEIR LIST AS WELL AS ST PAUL. SO WE ARE A TOP 20 AND WE ARE THE MOST LIVABLE CITY IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA ACCORDING TO LIVABILITY ICON AND WE ALSO BEAT OUT EVERY SINGLE OTHER BLOOMINGTON ACROSS THE U.S. SO CONGRATULATIONS. THE EMPHASIS THAT THEY TALK ABOUT IS AFFORDABILITY, CULTURAL AMENITIES, TALENT INTERACTION IN THE WORKFORCE AND MORE. MINNEAPOLIS IS ALSO ON THE LIST. ROCHESTER IS ON THE LIST BOTH MUCH FURTHER DOWN THAN 20. CONGRATS TO THE LEADERS ACROSS OUR CITY BOTH WITHIN THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND OUR BUSINESS MEMBERS. IT'S A BIG DEAL TO BE BE SEEN AND LIFTED UP AS A TOP 20 ACROSS THE U.S. AND I THINK WE SEE THAT WHEN IT'S HARD TO FIND A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND THAT OUR NUMBERS ARE THAT WE JUST HEARD IN OUR PRESENTATION LOOK DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE ALSO CONSIDERED SMALL AND MEDIUM CITIES. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE WORK AND YOUR LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU AND TO ALL OF STAFF AS WELL AND THE GREAT WORK THAT IS DONE HERE AT CITY HALL AND IT'S TWO YEARS IN A ROW FROM LIVABILITY. YOU RECALL WE WERE IN THE SAME POSITION LAST YEAR. SO WELL DONE ALL COUNSEL. ANYTHING ELSE TO BRING UP COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU . THEY HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF BRING UP AND YOU KNOW, I'LL START OFF WITH THE FIRST ONE HERE. YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF OUR PROCESS THAT WE'VE KIND OF FOLLOWED WITH OUR COMMUNITY CENTER AND IT'S COME UP OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, JUST HOW AND I THINK THERE'S SOME CONFUSION, A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION IN THE COMMUNITY THAT CREEKSIDE THOUGH ONE OF THE LARGEST DEMOGRAPHICS HAS BEEN SENIORS IT REALLY HAD BEEN A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT MULTIPLE PEOPLE HAVE UTILIZED OVER OVER THE TIME AND I KNOW WHEN WE FIRST HAD THIS CONVERSATION A NUMBER OF YEARS BACK TO TO REPLACE THE THE EXISTING CENTER WE WENT THROUGH A VERY EXHAUSTIVE EXHAUSTED PROCESS TO DETERMINE THAT THAT BUILDING WAS WAS WAS OBSOLETE AND THAT WE NEEDED TO LOOK TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THAT. AND WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER OUR OUR A TASK FORCE, WE MADE SURE THAT SENIORS WERE REPRESENTED AS A PART OF OF THAT OF THAT GROUP. AND I DON'T RECALL, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND ITERATION OF THAT BUT I'M SURE THAT WE TOOK THE YOU KNOW, THE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT SENIORS WERE A PART OF THAT OF THAT PROCESS. AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SENIORS THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CHANGE THAT IS GOING TO OCCUR AS IS OCCURRING AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE DIFFERENTLY AND I THINK IT'S PERFECT THAT IT COMES AFTER THAT. YOU KNOW THAT LIVABILITY SURVEY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFICULT YOU KNOW, I I'VE LIVED HERE A LONG TIME IS TO SEE SOMETHING CHANGE AND MARRY. AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW WHAT MY YOU KNOW, FAMILY MOVED TO A NUMBER OF YEARS BACK, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO SAY THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP IT THE WAY THAT IT WAS THAT WAY WE WOULD STILL BE WAY DOWN THAT LIST. WE HAVE GOT TO LOOK AND YOU'VE KIND OF PRESSED ME ON THIS TOO AS WELL THAT WE'VE GOT TO CHANGE THINGS AND WE'VE GOT TO LOOK TO TRY TO AND SO I'M JUST HOPING THAT OUR OUR PUBLIC CAN BE COGNIZANT OF THAT. WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THAT DEMOGRAPHIC AS A PART OF THAT PROCESS AND THAT CHANGE IS GOING TO LOOK DIFFERENT. THERE'S DIFFERENT PRIORITIES WITH THIS AND MAYBE YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF HOW THAT SERVICE LOOKS ACROSS A DIFFERENT CITY. I KNOW MAYOR YOU'VE USED THE TERM BEFORE CENTERS OF COMMUNITY AND I STILL BELIEVE IN THAT CONCEPT THAT THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES ARE REALLY ACROSS THE CITY THAT ARE SENIORS I DON'T MARRY IT DO YOU I MEAN DOES THIS MAKE SENSE WHAT I'M SAYING? I MEAN I MEAN I YOU KNOW, AS I AS I LOOK AT THIS, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. I DO REMEMBER AS WE IN YEARS PAST WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, I THINK THE CONSENSUS WAS THE IMPORTANCE OF MAKING A MULTIGENERATIONAL CENTER THAT COULD SERVE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S IN NO WAY DISPARAGING OR DISMISSIVE OF OUR SENIOR COMMUNITY. BUT WE WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE IT BEST SERVES THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF 91,000 PEOPLE BY BUILDING A COMMUNITY CENTER A CENTER FOR ALL AGES AND DOING A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS. SO I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU AND I JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS HERE. I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, SOME CONCERN AROUND AND I'VE MENTIONED IT TOO AND OTHER OTHER SETTINGS AROUND THE THE STREET PARKING YOU KNOW, WITH WITH RESPECT TO WHAT THAT COMMUNITY CENTER LOOKS LIKE AND I'M DEFINITELY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BUT YOU KNOW THESE PLANS HAVEN'T REALLY CHANGED. THIS IS SORT OF WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'VE KIND OF BROUGHT THIS UP, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOK LIKE AND ONE OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PRIORS, SOME OF THE THINGS I'M INTERESTED IN I'D LIKE TO SEE THE COMMUNITY CENTER BE ABLE TO GROW OVER TIME IS THAT WE WOULD MOVE THAT THAT ENTRANCE WAY THAT RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY IS ON PENN AND MOVE IT OVER TO THAT OTHER LOCATION ON NEWTON I BELIEVE IT IS. SO THAT DOES CREATE, YOU KNOW, SOME CONFLICT AND YOU KNOW AS WE DO THAT AND YOU KNOW IF A PUBLIC RECALL I YOU KNOW DIDN'T THINK THIS WAS THE BEST SITE BUT I THINK THIS WAS THE COMPROMISE THAT THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, CAME TO. AND SO I THINK YOU KNOW, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN FIND WAYS TO WORK WITH THOSE RESIDENTS THERE THERE TO TRY TO MAKE THE BEST OF EXPERIENCE POSSIBLE AND KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE ASKED IS IF THERE IS A WAY TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, HAVING SOME ENTRANCE WAY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CLEAR YOU KNOW ON ON 93 IT WILL SHOCK AP THAT THAT KIND OF SPACE THERE OR STILL KEEPING IT ON ON PENN AVENUE IF THERE BE SOME TYPE OF RESPONSE TO THEM YOU KNOW WITH RESPECT TO THAT AND WHAT I JUST SO THIS BODY KNOWS AFTER THAT AFTER OUR OUR OUR MEETING I SUGGESTED TO THE GROUP, YOU KNOW THAT IF THEY WANT TO YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO TO MEET TOGETHER AND COMMUNICATE MAYBE YOU MIGHT WANT TO PUT TOGETHER A PETITION OR YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE CONVERSATION WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS TO SEE WHAT'S BEST AND BRING A REASONABLE PROPOSAL BACK. BUT YOU KNOW, LET THIS BODY KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE CHANGED OR WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THAT'S DIFFERENT WITH RESPECT TO YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE CAN ALL LOOK AT THIS AND SAY WE DON'T WANT IT BUT WHAT IS IT THAT WOULD BE A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM? SO THOSE ARE THE SUGGESTIONS THAT I'VE MADE AFTERWARDS AND I DID GIVE COMMENTARY TO THIS EFFECT WITH THAT GROUP THAT WAS AFTER THIS TODAY AND ALSO LAST WEEK IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, SOME OF MY PERSPECTIVE WITH RESPECT TO THAT, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S SITTING THERE THANK YOU. ON SEPTEMBER OTHERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH THANK YOU MAYOR FIRST I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO MY COLLEAGUES IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I WAS NOT AT THE LISTENING SESSION LAST WEEK. I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CONFLICT THAT I SERVE ON THE V BOARD AND THEY RUN SORT OF CONCURRENTLY AND I USUALLY LEAVE THAT EARLY IN ORDER TO GET TO THE LISTENING SESSION BUT I STAYED WITH THAT GIVEN THE BUDGET CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE DUE TO PARTICULARLY FEDERAL FUNDING AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT THE CITY LEVEL BUT V IS BEING TOLD THAT THE FOOD THAT THEY RECEIVE FROM THEIR FEDERAL FUNDING SOURCE AND IT'S SOME LONG ACRONYM THAT I DON'T REMEMBER MAYBE COMES FROM RICARDO REMEMBERS YEAH SO SO BETTER MEMORY THAN ME AND YOU KNOW THEY'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IT WILL BE CUT BY 30% AND IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE THAT IS THE LEAST EXPENSIVE SOURCE OF FOOD THAT THEY HAVE THERE SO THAT 30% IS A FRACTION OF WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR YOU OR I TO DONATE TO THEM TO GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF FOOD FOR THAT. AND UNFORTUNATELY I BELIEVE IN MARCH THEY ACTUALLY RECEIVED NEARLY 50% LESS FOOD AND THAT MEANS NOT FOOD THAT ISN'T THERE FOR PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY IN RICHFIELD AND EDINA AND OUR PARTNER CITIES AS WELL THAT THEY SERVE THAT IS THERE AND SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON PEOPLE'S RADAR THAT THAT THESE IMPACTS ARE REAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I KNOW THE CITY HAS BEEN A BIG SUPPORTER OF VEEP AND SOME WE HAVE SOME FUNDING THAT COMES THROUGH FEDERAL RESOURCES GENERALLY THAT GOES TO THEM BUT THEY THEY MAY BE IN A POSITION THIS YEAR THAT THEY HAVE ENORMOUSLY TOUGH DECISIONS TO MAKE AND SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO STAY ON AND LISTEN TO WHERE THEY'RE AT AND THEN BRING THAT INFORMATION FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO AND I DON'T NORMALLY DO SHAMELESS PLUGS FOR IT BUT IF YOU ARE IN A POSITION TO HELP THEY NEED YOUR HELP. THE DEMAND IS HIGH, THE RESOURCES ARE LOW. IT'S JUST BASIC SWITCHING TO A MORE POSITIVE THING I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY NEXT WEEK SO I'D JUST LIKE TO WISH ALL THE MOTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY SO I HOPE EVERYONE IS ABLE TO ENJOY NEXT WEEKEND AND GET TOGETHER WITH FAMILY AND CELEBRATE AND ESPECIALLY PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON IN YOUR LIFE YOUR MOTHER. SO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THE V BOARD AND I CERTAINLY KNOW IT'S IT'S IMPORTANT AND IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT TIME FOR THAT TYPE OF SERVICE PROVIDER. SO THANK YOU COUNSEL. ANYTHING ELSE TONIGHT? IF NOT, WE HAVE YOU COME TO THE END OF OUR AGENDA COUNSEL AND I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MEETING. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, I, I JUST WANT TO NOT ANSWER TO YOUR COMMENTS, COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN BUT JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT TO IT, I KNOW WHAT YOU SAID IS 100% WHAT I FEEL ABOUT IT. HOWEVER, I AM CONCERNED THAT IF WE TRY TO CHANGE THE BUILDING THAT MUCH MORE IS GOING TO COST A LOT MORE MONEY AND YOU KNOW WHERE THE FUNDS ARE GOING TO COME FROM. I, I DO GET A LOT OF PEOPLE IN TALKING TO ME IN PERSON OVER THE PHONE EMAILS HUNDREDS OF THEM AND I HAPPENED TO GO LAST WEEK INTO TO THE OPEN HOUSE THEY HAD A BOUTIQUE AND IT WAS INTERESTING TO BE THERE. I WAS THERE FOR A LITTLE OVER AN HOUR AND YOU KNOW I DO FEEL I LACK FOR WHAT THEY ARE COMPLAINING AND I DO AGREE WITH YOU 100% BUT BUT I AM CONCERNED ALSO THAT THERE'S EXPENSES AT THIS POINT INTO THE PROJECT. I ALREADY YOU KNOW, AT THE TOP AND I DON'T KNOW HOW OR WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET ANY MORE FUNDS TO TO CHANGE THE BUILDING ANYMORE IF IT IS STILL POSSIBLE TO CHANGE IT. I HAVE NO IDEA AS FAR AS AS DID THE CONVERSATION GOES, THE BUILDING IS ALMOST IN THE FINAL STAGES OF DESIGN SO YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH INVESTMENT HAS BEEN PUT INTO IT ALREADY. HUH? I DON'T KNOW. A YOU KNOW, I WANT TO LEAVE MY PERSONAL OPINIONS ASIDE BUT IF IF THIS WERE TO HAPPEN ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE I GUESS THE COMMUNICATION WILL HAVE TO BE VERY DIFFERENT SO PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE A LOT MORE NOT AT THE LAST MINUTE LIKE IN THIS PARTICULAR TIME. I MEAN I, I FIND IT VERY HARD TO SAY WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE I DO EMPATHIZE WITH ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT CONTACT ME CONSTANTLY IN REGARDS TO IT. THE THE THE EXPENSES I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY CAN TAKE ANY MORE OF THAT AT THIS POINT THAT SAID THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER. AS I MENTIONED AT OUR LISTENING SESSION, THE CITY HAS BEEN DOING OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON THIS FOR TWO YEARS NOW AND SO PEOPLE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY NOW WHETHER OR NOT EVERYTHING EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED HAS MADE IT INTO FINAL PLANS. NO, THAT'S NOT THE CASE. BUT PEOPLE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO WEIGH IN ON THIS NUMEROUS OCCASIONS IN NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS VENUES SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL HEARING? NONE. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN SO MOTION MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS TO ADJOURN THIS EVENING. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANKS FOR THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT COUNCIL THANKS TO STAFF FOR PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER. THANKS TO THE FOLKS WHO JOINED US TONIGHT ESPECIALLY FOR THE POLICE RELATED ACTIVITIES AND THE SMALL BUSINESS STUFF. THANKS MUCH. HAVE A GREAT TUESDAY